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Who was the best girl for Shirou in the end? Who made the most sense?
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>>750304818
Caren
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>>750304818
Illya, which is why she had no route because everyone would choose her.
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>>750304818
Saber was the "ideal girl" for him.
Rin was the most realistic and balanced his faults with her own (hence why UBW's main symbol is kanshou and bakuya, the yin-yang)
Sakura is the ultimate masturbatory sleeve for his savior complex.
Ilya is too good for this world, an angel.
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>>750304818
Why ask such an obvious question?
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What we know about Illya's route

>Nasu confirmed that Ilya's bird familiars were from the draft

>Nasu: If it's at the land that houses the Holy Grail, then Ilya is indeed that strong. And being able to make a familiar from her hair was in the original draft. The work this time around was especially hard, so I ended up using an "Iri's replacement" approach. By the way, the name of the technique is Elfen Lied [German for Elves' Song, 天使の詩 - Angel's Poem]. The bird's name is Storch Fieseler [German term for a type of plane].

>Takeuchi confirmed that Shirou would have a sex scene with Leysritt and Sella

>At the initial concept stage, the only details we had hammered down about these two maids were their names, their general roles (powerhouse/teacher) and which one would become Illya's Dress of Heaven. We only expanded on these characters when we decided to go ahead with "hollow". Normal homonculi are mostly emotionless like Leysritt, so that illustrates what a unique case Illya is. Leysritt was created as a sample of Illya, and Sella was allowed to live only because she was useful as Illya's tutor. That's about the extent of the specifics we initially had for these characters. When I started writing Sella's part in "hollow", however, she quickly became one of my favourite characters. I like Leysritt too, of course. By the way, I think Sella is the only real tsundere character in "Fate". (laughs)

>Shirou losing his arm protecting Ilya, the two shopping and her singing, BRING ILLYA BACK, and Nine Lives Revolver were also planned for Illya's route

>Shirou was going to drop his ideal to make amends for Kiritsugu's sins in Illya's route, while the Sakura route focuses on him breaking free of Kiritsugu and becoming his own person. Also, Rin was likely going to become a villain after killing Sakura and going mad in the Illya route to complete the pattern of how each heroine is a villain in some route

>Zouken and Sakura might have been the final bosses
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>>750306167
>Also, Rin was likely going to become a villain after killing Sakura and going mad in the Illya route to complete the pattern of how each heroine is a villain in some route
Fucking kino.
I hope the next inevitable Fate adaptation is the Ilya route.
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>>750306167
>>Takeuchi confirmed that Shirou would have a sex scene with Leysritt and Sella
GODDAMMIT
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>>750306167
Newfag here, what happened to this?
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>>750306496
Not much to say. FSN was originally going to be a 2 parter with 4 total routes, development was taking too long, it needed shipped, so Illya's route was scrapped and some parts of it were smashed into HF. It's part of the reason Sakura sucks so much in her own route. There was also a caster route planned at some point early on, but it never went anywhere.
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>>750306167
>Taiga bath scene
Dangerously based
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>>750306496
Would it have ever released considering the state of red garden?
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>>750306660
>It's part of the reason Sakura sucks so much in her own route.
It's just poorly written in general.
>>750307105
what red garden?
we just got the near side remade
it's never coming out
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>>750307340
>>It's part of the reason Sakura sucks so much in her own route.
>It's just poorly written in general.
Just say you were filtered
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>>750307643
Okay, genius.

Why doesn't anyone do anything about Zouken? They know where he lives. They know he has something to do with the Shadow. They know what he's been doing to Sakura. Fucking Archer is said to have experience killing magi like him. Rin and Archer both fuck up Medea in UBW but can't do shit to a literally fucking who trash tier magus like Zouken?

And Sakura before she spazzes out. Illya knows exactly what's wrong with her. Shirou knows something is off. Rin definitely made a connection in her head but was in denial, as she usually fucking is. This is the route where Illya and Shirou interact the most. It's where she loves him the most. Why the fuck doesn't she just tell him what's going on? Oh right, because the plot wouldn't happen.

Shirou has Rule Breaker as early as, what was it? The second real night of the war? He knows its nature. He can end literally the entire conflict by stabbing Sakura with a traced version. Or Archer, who should have it from his own memories. They never think of using Rule Breaker to sever the magic ties between Zouken and Sakura? Only until Shirou is literally fucking brain dead and losing all of his memories yet somehow holding on to the exact fucking one he needs to save the day?

But the absolute worst one of all.
"I love you, Sakura! That's why I'm going to let you go alone to the one man everyone has said you are absolutely useless against that has raped and abused you you're entire life! And when your sister comes and tries to rescue you, I'm going to stop her!" - Retarded Bitch Only Remembered For Her Tits Rider

Wormfags are fucking retarded
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>>750308053
b-b-but it's thematic!
all this plot contrivance and out of character bullshit doesn't matter because of muh themes!
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>>750304818
If he never got mixed up in all the grail war shit he probably would have ended up with a nice girl like Mitsuzuri. Can't have nice things, however.
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