layoffs are the meta your product doesn't matter
>>750378940Eat the rich.
This is why we need to band together and bring down Nintendo, think off all the money they're stealing from the shareholders by not laying off their staff
The strong take from the weak. The strong killing the weak is morally good, if you are weak then you deserve to lose.
Western culture, especially work culture, views people as interchangeable cogs that they can toss away or replace whenever they want. >"We can fire the guy with 10 years of experience, and when we need him again, we can just hire another guy with 10 years of experience." That's how corporations think now.
>>750380998If you were hired near the end of a project don't expect to keep the job after it's done. They just needed temporary extra hands
>>750378940You know what's kinda funny? Thanks to the culture war, we have all this "go woke go broke" nonsense, and people pretend like everything bad in video games happens because lefties. And in the end it's gonna turn out that lefties were actually right, and everything bad in video games happens because of capitalism. Why do EA, Activision and Microsoft get to buy every study and close them? Capitalism. Why was maxis forced to make sim city an always online multiplayer slopfest? Capitalism. Why was Rocksteady forced to make always online battle pass games as a service multiplayer looter shooter slop? Capitalism. Why did everything become an open world zombie survival game, and then everything became a games as a service game? Capitalism. What lead to horse armor, on disk dlc and season passes? Capitalism. Why was subnautica 2 almost kill? Capitalism. Why do games have fucking FOMO mechanics and gambling addictions now? Capitalism. Why does Bethesda work on a fucking 30 year old engine that they keep ducttaped together and re-releasing, despite it clearly being fundamentally incompatible with modern gaming requirements? Capitalism. And yet all people complain about is woke woke woke woke. If you removed woke today, games tomorrow would still suck. If you removed fucking corporate greed, we'd at least get a chance of good games, even if they have some homos and pink haired ladies in them.
>>750378940There are no "does well" games in the west. It can sell a billion copies it'll still be unprofitable because of the rising costs of just existing.
>>750381598You're right sister, I can't wait until North Korea's new AAA game hits the market.
>>750381598>>750382194And yet you participate in society!
>>750378940>let's hire my friends>let's hire the LGBTQYIXCFSD+ just to make a point>in fact let's hire a bunch of clueless people just to virtue signal>...>what do you mean we have to lay off people?The story always starts at the beginning buddy.
>>750378940mass layoffs are exclusively for wokeslophowever layoffs still happen because they hire jeets and cheap graduates to exploit them
>>750378940Companies can and will destroy their long term futures just to make number go up for the next quarter. It happens over and over again.
I've noticed this in my line of work too but I'm not in the vidya industry.>Oh you did a bad job, looks like you'll be getting your budget cut accordingly>Oh you did well? looks like you can handle a budget cut then
>>750381598Videogames of 30 years ago were good.You know what we did have 30 years ago? Capitalism.You know what we didn't have 30 years ago? Woke.
>>750381598Cope mental gymnastics.
>>750381598Modern leftoids and rightoid are two sides of the same coin, they play off each other perfectly and that's why they invented the culture war
>>750382194Anon... Be so for real with me right now. NK doesn't even pretend to be Communist since like.. the 80s any more. But you and me, even if they did call themselves communist. You don't really believe that NK is run by the people, right? You don't REALLY think NK is a communist country, where the people own the means to production, right? You're not really that dumb, that when an obvious dictator, rules over a place, and says "Oh, we're communists" that you actually believe him and think they are actually communists? Like, did you believe the nazis when they said they're socialists? Do you believe kongolese dictators are "democratic" when they call their countries "democratic republic of whatever"? Please tell me you're not that politically illiterate.
No one cares about modestly living, it HAS to be that you make a fuck ton of money otherwise you are a complete loser or painted as some kind of monster. This is why competition is so stifled in the west because people would rather not try and die poor than live in mediocrity. I really feel like there is a deeper purpose for destroying the middle class because it seemed like most people where ok with living a middle class life style, but I guess jews got too upset that normies could afford a luxury or two.
>>750382529>modestly livingLitetally a crime to suggest that to shareholders.
>>750380575>>750380447>>750380398>>750378940has valve done layoffs?
>>750382224>>750382457>b-but it's not real communism!It's also "not real capitalism" yet still flawed capitalism makes games while flawed communism doesn't, yet you lack the introspection to ask why.
>>750381598Well, most games are failing becsuse they are shit and not because they are woke. But shit games get made extra woke because it steers the discussion away from the studio just being incompetent and is free marketing for products that are alrdy sure failurea.Why the woke crowd tolerated that their ideals basically got retconned into the ljn rainbow of low quality is beyond me - probably because they actually don't play games and champion the product on the politics alone but don't really play or buy it. Which made them perfect to push the ljn rainbow of low quality.
>>750382625I was just mocking you for suggesting that a criticism of capitalism is equivalent to being pro communism. These aren't sports teams.
>>750382194NK has to build nukes instead of vidya because the americans/jews want to rape their kids
>>750381598people like this will be the first to have nons start murdering and raping them while screaming "nooo xisters my occupyerinos!" two hours into the commie paradise
>>750381598>nebulous power conflict practices are only possible in capitalismmy nigger, you are retarded beyond belief, this is a human being issue and will be present eventually in every single hierarchy possible
>>750382670Yes, they are sports teams retard. If you're anti-capitalist, then you're a leftist commie. It's as simple as that.
>>750381598Might be the most fucking retarded post I've seen on this site in a while. This place really did become reddit a while ago, jesus christ.
>>750378940Game industry's far too big. Covid gamers didn't stick around to prop up the sudden associated expansion and AAA/woke fatigue in general is palpable. Fortunately this is only the result of short-sighted western greed and the Japanese games industry remains unaffected.
>>750382625>It's also "not real capitalism"Well. It’s not a real free market. I’ll give you that one free of charge. But it’s absolutely capitalism.
>>750382625Anon. NK is not "flawed communism" either. It's a brutal dictatorship, entirely owned by a dictator family, and speaking out will get your entire generation thrown in prison. That's not "flawed communism". That's not communism at all.Why are people so retarded when it comes to communism? Fuck man, like I said, some asshole in Africa coups a guy and installs a military dictatorship, calls it "democratic" and everyone and their mom, despite zero political education goes: "That's no democracy, that's a dictatorship". Yet some dictator calls his country "Communist", every fucking fag goes: "Ayup, that's communism alright!" Why? Literally nothing in NK is "community" it's all a single fucking dictator. It's not even like china, where you have a party pretending to be communist, NK doesn't even call itself communist for over 40 years now, and still people think it's a prime example of communism. I genuinely do not get it.
>>750382296>The story always starts at the beginning buddy.If you mean when corporations started ruining video games, yes.
>>750378940>I agree to being owned by a publisher, which has complete control over me and my team and I cannot do anything about it>WTF why are they doing anything they want without any of my consent!???Stop being owned by giga corporations if you don't want giga corporations to lay you off???
>>750382951>commie having a melty over some gay shitlmao chill out faggot
How comes all communist countries end up being shitholes with dictatorships? Is that what it's supposed to do?>inb4 muh ChinaStill a dictatorship.
>>750382951>Communism is when you give the government infinite power>Dictators happen when the government has infinite power>All implementations of communism have ended in dictatorshipAre you really not connecting the dots?
>>750383025>>Communism is when you give the government infinite poweris it?
>>750378940If the developers being laid off are responsible for making the games but it's the suits firing them responsible for the game being bad, why don't the developers just make games without the suits? Sounds like being fired is a blessing. Toby Fox made a smash hit game from his basement, why do these allegedly good developers need this upper management who allegedly does nothing productive and they hold in contempt?>>750381598Capitalism is just the free market plus property rights. If you're against capitalism, you're a spearchucker and should go back to your mudhut.
>>750382457Ah the "not real communism" canned answer.Buddy "real communism" only exist in your head, "actual communism" the shit we see in past and in present is the real communism, poverty, autocracy, repression.And if you give the other canned answer "here it's the same thing", i'll advise you to take a one way trip to one of these "paradises" and burn your passport on the way....but we both know that's not going to happen.
>>750383025Anon what do you think the "commun" in "communism" stands for? Spoiler: it's not "infinite power to the government". I swear to christ the political education of some people.Also note. This is not just "communism good, other system bad!" Who cares, I'm just GENUINELY shocked that no anon seems to actually know what communism is. We are actually reverting back to the meme.
>>750382581So fucking stupid that it really is a crime
>>750382971Corporations funded the first video games moron, along with the computers/consoles they ran on.Do you think Nintendo was what, a hippie coop?
>>750383171Shut up, commie.
>>750383148>Anon what do you think the "commun" in "communism" stands for? Spoiler: it's not "infinite power to the government".Yes, yes, and when we die we grow wings and go to heaven.History on the hand show the truth, the "revolutionary vanguard" a.k.a. the new aristocracy or the "great leader" takes power and never let's go.
>>750381598>Words words words words Why are they always like this? Truth is simple. This is why you can't meme.
>>750383113Anon, you retards think "not real communism" is a canned answer, because faggots keep bringing up clearly not communist countries, pointing at them, and saying "communism". To which people who are politically educated, correctly state: "Buddy, that's not a communism". And because most anti-commies are fucking retards, who have no Idea what communism actually is (as evidenced by this thread) keep running into that, you think "not actual communism" is a canned answer, when it's just actually the correct answer to your statement. You're like a fucking flat earther, accusing scientists of having "canned answers" because every scientists keeps giving the same answers to flat earthers questions. You recognize that, right? That you think the answer is canned because people keep giving you the same correct answer every time you ask? Fucking hell, man.
>>750383312>history shows all communist experiments resulted in poverty, autocracy and repression>all of those were not real communism, real communism is the bullshit i'm trying to sell you, ignore all previous attemptsYou sound like a mix between a sleazy salesmen and a religious cult member.
the reddit commie is going nuclear lmaowhat a fag
>>750383271Anon, we can talk ALL day about how communism is susceptible to being undermined by charismatic leaders, and how many communist projects have ended in brutal dictatorships for one reason or another. I would be a retard to deny this. These are facts. But at the same time YOU would be retarded, to point at what clearly has become a dictatorship, and say that it is still communism, When clearly no communism has been practized in those countries for decades. Like I said. If you think the nazis were socialists, because the called themselves national socialists, you are retarded. If you think NK is communist, because decades ago they used to call themselves communist, you are retarded. Simple as:
>>750383180>Corporations funded the first video games moronThey didn't, actually. >Do you think Nintendo was what, a hippie coop?Japanese companies are better by default.
>>750383275Actually, truth is complicated. Lies are simple. You can make up a lie in a sentence. Disproving a lie takes an essay.
Holy shit I don't fucking care about communism
>>750380398I'm vegan
>>750380398Get a job.
>>750383275>my ideology is centered around posts that can fit within the twitter text limit How does it feel being retarded
>>750383275There is a meme about that.
>>750383465Sorry, someone said something retarded about communism and my autism kicked in, lmao.
>>750381598>You know what's kinda funny? Thanks to the culture war, we have all this "go woke go broke" nonsense, and people pretend like everything bad in video games happens because lefties.Everything bad is because of lefties though.
>>750382606valve dont make games
>>750383312You can’t explain it to them. They are taught this way in school because it is useful to the powers that be for words that describe hypothetical alternatives to not even have meaning. Thus communism or socialism means “totalitarianism”, anarchism means “lol the purge” PS sick of the purge to pivot from being a propaganda piece about lawlessness to being a condemnation of hierarchy as the franchise went on you can tell the jews in charge stopped reading the scriptsYou’re having to frack and then reshape the very language they use to describe politics. They don’t have the words for alternatives to the status quo.
>another rightoid candidate suffers a crushing defeat in brazil>america is next Now that the dust has settled, how did the right lose the culture war so horribly and embarrassingly?Why does ewgeryone hate them now? I thought woke was dead?
>>750381598Capitalism is about money. And games from lefties don't make money because everyone's fucking black and ugly in them.
I think I'm about to get made redundant on Wednesday.
>>750383426>anon let me sell you this product, theoretically it results in wonderful things, but test labs show catastrophic results, would you like to buy it anyway, remember the theory behind it pretty awesome ;DI dont know what to tell you son, you are clearly too brainwashed to see things for what they are, imagination is not reality.btw NAZIS were indeed socialists, just look at their social programs, state sponsored public works, subsidized industry, etc. they did (and went bankrupt and had to basically invade and loot other countries, but that's another story)
>>750383542Because they are subhumans.
>>750383647>btw NAZIS were indeed socialistsWhich is why they mass privatized industries and were entirely funded by capitalists. > just look at their social programsLegalized slavery? >state sponsored public works, subsidized industry,What do you think the USA did during world war 2?
>>750383528It's just so infuriating you know? Because I'm fine with people not liking communism, or being anti-communism. Could not give a fuck what you think the best political system you believe in, as long as it's not libertarianism aka, the most retarded Idea of them all. But it's so fucking annoying, to run into people who clearly have NO fucking Idea what communism is, call everything they hate communist, and then call YOU a retard for correctly telling them that what they're pointing at, is not in fact, communism.
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>>750381598YOU SCUM created the culture war. You shat in your bed now lay in it
>>750383482>gets called out for words words words>replies with words words words
>>750378940>layoffs when the product is completed is wrong/unusualI wonder when normies will realize game industry a project-based industry, and its completely normal to lay off people after theyve done their job and delivered the result, especially ind contractors - regardless of how well the game performs
>>750383724stop replying to yourself, commietardcommunism has literally never worked and is to blame for tens of millions of deaths
>>750383724Hey fuck you buddy I’m a libertarian socialist and I’d rather hang out with a rattlesnake shirt than a tankie. New left/alt right weed gun libertarians is good people
>>750378940>layoffsErmmmm 90% of "developers" these days are nowdays contract workers they get off india. They literally only exist to create the newest slop and then move on to the next project with 0 love and usually just a tiny overworked core team remains to patch in the last pieces. Thats why DLCs are already premade
>>750383701There were no "mass privatizations" under the nazis, in fact existing private corporations under the nazis had the same relationship as current chinese private corps have with the CCP.Go look at the social programs for German citizens under the nazis (btw the USSR also have slave labor during the war period, i guess commie sand nazies are in fact comrades in all things)the nazis did that BEFORE the war. Also the "new deal" basically prolonged the great depression by making the entire economy state dependent.
>>750381598You're only half right, it's unchecked capitalism, greed and shareholders meddling. I don't know why the other retards got such a knee jerk reaction from this post.>>75038236930 years ago the industry was seen mostly as a joke as devs were let to their own devices to make what they wanted to make without a need to maximize profits or push some agenda, it's not the behemoth that it is today.
>>750383701We’re not actually going to argue that fascism is capitalism, are we? I know reddit has mind-poisoned a generation of people into thinking capitalism traveled back in time to invent the monarchy and that all bad things in history are the result of an economic system that was invented with the steam turbine, but are we actually doing that here? This place is supposed to be smarter than that.
>>750383738Kek
>>750383275>he says, posting an image of a man well known for telling jokes that lasted upwards of 5 minutesHere's a simple truth: you're a retard. Fuck off back to Twitter.
>>750383893>I don't know why the other retards got such a knee jerk reaction from this post.Because anti-wokeism is a cult. And like any good cult, any counter argument needs to be ignored, and met with "fuck you, you're trying to destroy what we love".I know because I used to be part of the same cult, back in the day.
>he keeps replying to and agreeing with himself
>>750383957The irony of this post is palpable.
>>750383180Go look into the origins of Electronic Arts and Activision. They started out a lot less corporate and a lot more hippie.
>>750383893Xbox left devs to their own devices and they made woke dogshitShareholders dont ask for pozzed garbage, they ask for money, which pozzed garbage doesnt make. Its clearly not shareholders or capitalism driving any of these decisions when they keep making flops and losing money>>750383957Kill yourself shitskin lover
communists gloat when things go their way and beg for understanding when they don't.
>>750381598Why are you attacking capitalism as if it didn't facilitate production to allow videogames to be affordable to nearly anyone in the first place.You wouldn't even have a computer device to be making this garbage post if it wasn't for capitalism.
>>750383957Being anti-woke is being anti-capitalist because woke shit is capitalist in practice. It’s people with money using that money as power, trying to buy and sell the very ethical framework of society. Who decides that character doesn’t meet inclusivity targets? A trillion dollar venture capital firm. Who decides your amateur smut is of a verboten category? A credit card payment processor.When video games started, it was nerds making things and other nerds buying them. But then money caught a whiff of more money. They bought the abstract rights to what these nerds had made, turned them into wage-slaves, worked them to dust, tossed their corpses to the street, and replaced them with blue haired sycophants whose chief talent was checking boxes about “appealing to new demographics” in the marketing department slideshows in pursuit of unsustainable growth trajectories. Simultaneously all independent alternatives to this monolithic meat packing plant of creative processing were crushed by attempts to deny access to the very machinery of commerce and productivity itself, making it impossible to route around their superstructure and go back to nerds making shit for nerds. Everything MUST be approved of by money, and money sees all.Woke is a capitalism story. We just don’t tell it that way because there are enough useful idiots screaming “patriarchy” on Twitter (who platformed these lunatics to the tune of millions of dollars and why? HMMMMMM) that we can point to the rainbow flag left as the “cause” and ignore the root of evil. As though money didn’t know what it was doing when it hired these people to replace white nerds in 2001.
I haven't seen this much concentrated reddit since 2011
>>750384215AI post
>>750383893they dont understand that woke in games is tied to the blue ocean/lowest common denominator strategy of attracting the largest audience of consumers possible (rather than mostly just little and teen boys as it used to be). whether putting niggers or trannies in your game actually broadens its appeal in practice doesnt matter so long as its true in the minds of retard executives and shareholders that call the shots and who dont give two wet shits about leftism and but care about the company turning a profit
>>75037894090% of devs should be laid off anyway for being useless DEI hires.Look how much smaller older dev teams were, and look how much better their games were.
>>750383482I laughed at the top but not the bottom.
>>750384253If they care so much about profit why they lose so much money?
>>750383463>Disproving a lie takes an essayCouldn't be more wrong. Truth is simple and often self-evident. Lies require rationalization. Not my fault most people choose to live in a fantasy.
>>750381598Capitalism is a framework, its not ideal by any means(gonna catch flak for this), but providing generally positive results out of widely available options, while the others are mostly just plain negatives. People actively behaving like greedy scumbags is entirely their own choice though, and you cannot just summarily blame it on the current framework.
>>750384252I forgot that now you can’t write more than 3 sentences now or people will just assume you’re a LLM farming engagement for some imaginary cause. I’ll sprinkle in a few more “nigger”s next time for legitimacy.
>>750383952Hit a nerve? Lol
>>750384419AI is communistic so you should have taken my post as a compliment, commufag
>>750384394You can because capitalism’s whole gag is “we leverage greed to produce social good”. That’s the premise, that’s the point, that greed is something people do so we should find a way to transform that greed into a positive externality. So when that system misfires and the greed produces negative externalities, it’s very fair to point to the system that treats greed as a moral virtue for its own functioning and say>you did this. You made it this bad. We wanted to check this impulse but you encouraged it.
>>750383542and once they will have commies/nigs burning down their countries, they will crawl to murrica to beg for help (and money)
>>750380398Jews are unpalatable.
>>750384253>actually all the shareholders and execs dont understand business on this very specific issue that makes leftist subhumans look bad >ignore all the tranny devs who run to bluesky to brag about how they want to ruin your games and shove gay niggers in them to spite you, actually its the execs just being silly and misunderstanding but thats still capitalisms fault
>>750384197Von Neumann wasn't a capitalist. Capitalism exploits creators, it does not create anything by itself. It's a leech system.Capitalism doesn't mean private property and monetary exchange by the way it means the mindless accumulation of wealth for its own sake.Business majors are fucking retarded, literally two standard deviations below the average. Capitalism is a bunch of loteral>>750384197 retards stealing money from smart people that actually make things and pissing it away on useless luxury items.
>>750384464Not a communist, also AI isn’t communist (I guess FOSS models, FOSS is communism, but ChatGPT or whatever is capitalist as hell)
>>750383724As opposed to leftoids calling everyone nazi ? I mean, both sides are often extra dumb, but at least rights dont want to kill their countries (for now).
>>750384537>I'm not a communist despite blaming society's ills on capitalism and claiming that TRUE communism has never been triedlmaoalso AI democratizes art and coding and is, by definition, communistic
>>750384516“If you want all the power, you must carry all the blame”Shlomo Shekelberg hired these people, who by your own admission proudly boast about wanting to “ruin” video games, to design video games for him. He had the power, he made the choice.
Gachas with hot bitches is actually TRVE capitalism greed, but these games are also dogshit so pick your poison.Or just play indies that you like, shrimple as that
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>>750384537Gradient descent is a publicly funded academic discovery, the 10000 useless chatbot datacenters is the capitalism part. They loterally have no plan for how to make that investment back because they are retarded.
>>750383957Is this ultra projection or sarcasm ?? Id hope for the latter, but its probably the former.
>>750384387>Truth is simple and often self-evident.Is that why religion still exists?Snarky remarks aside, no, a lie is always easier than a truth. I can just say: "The earth is flat". And sure, you can SAY the truth and say "It is round". But that will not convince anyone. You actually have to prove, logically and show in extensive detail how the earth is round, or people will not believe you.I can say: "European history is exclusively white", and it sounds right. But is a lie. And to disprove the lie, you have to show tons of evidence, historical documents, etc, etc.Truth is sometimes self evident, but not always. And you have to actually prove a truth, while a lie you can just say. Which is why YOU can just say a lie like "truth is self evident and doesn't require explanation", while actually explaining why you're wrong, once again requires half a fucking essay.
>>750384335Yep. Transport Tycoon was made by single guy. To this day its one of the longest standing icons of replayability and just having fun.He didn't need giga budgets, marketing or even C.
>make shit games>blame capitalism for poor salesI'm happy you lost your job.
>>750384580Anon. How's the economy going under right wing leadership right now?
>>750384587>I'm not a communist despite blaming society's ills on capitalism and claiming that TRUE communism has never been triedI’m not. I’m a libsoc/anarchist. If you were to ask me to sketch what I think an ideal economic system would look like, I’d say it would be a free market populated by self-employed people and small cooperatives where common standards are enforced by licensure and insurance and “democratic management” of cooperative enterprise is based on consensus finding and coalitions rather than majoritarianism.But really I just despise centralized power, I despise the government, I also despise large corporations, because where there’s concentrated power, there’s slimy little fuckers worming their way into its machinery and capturing for their own ends. The thing is when you despise power, you tend to learn a lot about the various oppositions to that power and what they believe, and you come to understand what a phrase like “communism” actually means.
>>750378940Labour costs is the most expensive thing in game development so that makes sense
>>750384869>libsoc/anarchistso communist but with more steps lmao
>>750384607This only holds true if you thank and praise the execs for good games and not the devsBut you dont, and you know that, but youre being dishonestAnd an exec being a woke Satanist doesnt make it capitalisms fault, theyre still doing it for wokeness and not capital
>>750384801That isn’t about truth or lies per se. What you’re seeing is closer to>nuance takes more words than shit flinging
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>>750384869>I despite centralized power and am anarchist but I want (((licensing regulation))) to control what people can doDumbest fucking nigger alive
>>750378940Game industry "layoffs" are typically people running their contracts. They get signed on to do a year or two of work to hopefully get their dev segment done and then it's back straight onto job websites. It's like film, you don't hire an actor and keep paying them a salary after the movie's done (no I'm not FUCKING talking about royalties you absolute retards), it's the same shit with game dev. Japanese ching chong assooooooo i rika to fuck da human toirets outside Shibuya station salarymen stay with the company because that's just nip culture.
>>750384501Valid point, must admit. I suppose that's we also need to temper human (american,lol) nature with religion to balance the greed out.
>>750385015The devs made the shitty games and are to blame for that, but money was the ones who got to decide who makes games and who doesn’t, and money picked the woke mob>theyre still doing it for wokeness and not capitalMoney is not edible. Anyone who is amassing money is ultimately doing it because that money lets them achieve something. “Building a mega yacht” is one thing they might do; “undermining western ethics for the glory of Israel” is another. Capitalism is a system where money is power. It doesn’t stop being capitalism just because money uses its power for something you don’t personally believe in or benefit from.
>>750385030I mean true, but like I said it applies to truth vs lies. You can just lie. Specially politically, and it's always easier than the truth. The Nazis did that to great effect. "Poland attacked us, we have to defend ourselves".Or take PragerU. Every PragerU video is is 5 minutes. Every pragerU response video is 25+ minutes long. Because actually disproving a lie takes much more than just making shit up in the first place.
>>750385160So again, the issue isnt capitalism at all but that satanic leftists with to undermine the westAnd yet all the communists in this thread keep deflecting away from the jew demons, isnt that strange? And they want to just hand these demons more power to exert their will directly?
>>750381598Replace "capitalism" with "Jews" and I can agree with this statement
>>750385336>all the communists in this thread keep deflecting away from the jew demonsim sorry but who are the most powerful and influential capitalists again?? yeah i thought so
>>750385052>(((licensing regulation)))I don’t think Linda and Morris Tannehill were jewish, though I do recognize invoking any new left ideas risks associations to Rothbard and D Friedman who were.In case you’re not just shitposting, the premise is>people decide on some standard which they expect to be made regular; safety, quality, whatever the fuck we use regulations for these days>You pay to be audited, in exchange you get to “wear that brand” and tell people you meet this quality standard. That in turn buys you automatic trust on the open market that you don’t have to build painstakingly>if you find the regulations onerous, you skip that cert. skip all certs if you want, your call.The idea here would also be that because we’re talking about cooperative economics and self-employment, the people who are deciding on these certs are also in part the ones affected by them. Like the IEEE standard is in principle determined by the people who use it. Obviously in practice this can get kind of abstract and feel more like an imposition than consensus finding.
>>750381598Nope. Everything bad in media is happening because of copyright.It incentivizes and stabilizes the consolidation of publishers and deprives authors of the ability to meaningfully impact or change culture. The end-result is maximally consolidated, maximally non-productive publishers endlessly regurgitating slop.>But that's just capitalismBelieve it or not, but it's just authoritarianism and has been used by communism and nationalism equally to quell dissent. This is why it was adopted in 19th century Germany even though not having copyright was transparently better for authors.
>>750385447You’ll never hear me deny it. I’m gonna single-handedly bring back chud anarchism. Bakunin and Proudhon both hated jews.
>>750385447remove them and capitalism heals ;)
>>750385447And we were well on the way to solving that issue in the 1940sBut the talmudic demons at the top are protected by their leftist golems, so they need to go first
>>750385507Nah, copyright is just one of the tools used under capitalism to fuck everything up even more.
>>750380398I'd rather not eat kikes, I'd probably get worms
>>750381598>everything bad in video games happens because of capitalism.but the leftist stuff is literally BECAUSE of capitalism
rich capitalists started the woke movement
>>750385715But its not, its because demons walk the earth and seek to corrupt mankind
>>750383813Dang, who is she?
>>750385926>she
>heard about the stories of metro exodus devs being overworked slav(es)>play it, maybe there's a gem under all of the jank>uninterrupted hollywood movie parts, yapping, talking, nonsensical badly translated babbling for a majority of the campaign >asinine, flat, conceived of mostly overused tropes and clichés writing >offensively bad stealth with prompts not appearing, magical ai knowing your precise location after taking down an enemy, and the chapters all have a broken morality system slapped on them so if you want the good endings you must play pacifist and slowly knock out everyone ( it's utter garbage ), NOT KIDDING you must not use your guns and do stealth chapters that work with the elegance and flexibility of gamebryo engine stealth if your stealth stat was at 0>unbelievable input lag and key combinations >fucked up level design that cannot decide if it wants open world à la stalker or linear and fully scripted hollyjew movie game >broken sound files>broken subtitles>rigid, abhorrent physic, you move like you have cement shoes and get stuck everywhere >"ok the dlc must fix the most glaring issues right?" >dlc starts with a linear segment, then a full jank boss fight on a minuscule platform, full of scripts and obnoxious insta death moments, because stalker likes are about being stuck on a 10*10inches catwalk fighting flying batsThis game destroyed my sympathy for developers. THEY CAN FUCKING STARVE , GO TO HELL FAGGOTS. This hot toxic garbage was 70GB, I wasted my internet bandwidth and storage space to download this steaming crap instead of gran turismo. FUCK
>>750385336>the issue isnt capitalism at allwherever there is centralized power, there will be bad actors (disproportionately bergs and steins, but not always) trying to co-opt that power.The argument "well if we got rid of them, then the power would be fine" is sort of like saying "standing with my arms around a giant metal pole in a thunderstorm is fine as long as lightning doesn't strike it". People respond to incentives. Society is all game theory. You have to configure social structures so that they don't encourage bad things to happen in the first place.
All ideologies can be good. Not all of them can be carried out by humans though.
>>750384801>Is that why religion still exists?18 minimum age for 4chan
>>750381598Yeah, I was having a tantrum about metro exodus in my previous post but it has not an ounce of wokeism in it, everything bad and smelly about it was born not only from the devs incompetence but also management/upper direction putting goals and trending formulas in it, bending and raping the game. It's pure corporate meddling but you won't hear /v/tards talk about it because they're brainwashed goygolems successfully tricked into blaming pink haired dogs. Make no mistake, I still despise the retards behind Exodus but the responsibility is in a crushing majority carried by big suits ( who aren't the ones getting fired ever ).
>>750383482>n-wordlel
I thought we had reached the point where game development was basically contract work
>>750386427There's a lot to say about Walmart but it's actually kind of funny how this image in particular has come to be emblematic of what's wrong with it. As though>any shirt is fine as long as it's essentially blueis somehow egregious in a space (retail) where the average employer hands you 3 god-awful 100% polyester shirts emblazoned with their logo and says "you will wear this and only this any time you are on the clock".
>>750385647By that logic communism and socialism would just be tools used by capitalism to fuck everything up even more.
>>750385619How are leftists the ones defending Jews in any way? Do you live in opposite world where Trump is a fat black lady?
>>750386637The entire narrative here has gotten wild because it's the radical left who are somehow in the pit with the nazis claiming israel is an illegitimate state while the power structure puts on the little hat and kisses the wall at a 100% rate.
Who will win? AI or adult daycare?It's a war.
>>750386427>the devs incompetence but also management/upper direction putting goals and trending formulas in it,I mean usually games suck for one of two reasons.1: Greed. Someone high up decided "fuck everything, maximize my profits" and the game suffers2: Incompetence. They tried their best, but they just didn't have "it".Somehow both usually get attributed to "woke", which is nonsense. "woke" can be literally anything that's not right wing. A woman, a fag, short hair, god knows. So when a game sucks due to incompetence, they find something they can call woke, and then say "ah, that explains it, it's woke and therefore incompetent". When in reality most of the shit that culture warriors call "woke" is just "normal" for everyone else. (I'm talking shit like female protagonists, or gay characters here). It's clearly just political propaganda. "Oh, my enemies are both so smart, so clever, and so sneaky, that they have infiltrated every rank of government, academia, every company, every movie studio, every game dev, and they are in complete control. But at the same time these extremely skilled infiltrators, are completely incapable of producing anything good, everything they touch turns to shit, they can not even make a meme". It's clearly propaganda. And sadly: It stands in the way of actually talking about the issues in video games.
>>750378940well, has anyone actually important (i.e. the guys who actually make the good games) been lain off yet?i don't use twitter, but going off the screencaps that people love to spam on here, it hink the closest i've seen are the nudoom guys and like, bioware, if you even wanna count them.
>>750382625Commie-made Tetris mogs any gachaniggershit you are playing right now
>>750387087I disagree. Not a retarded analysis on your part, but I disagree. The reason woke is prevalent is because there are people with a lot of money (power) who like it and want to push it. Whether their reasons are financial or ideological does not matter, the fact is woke is injected like lip filler into games where the creative minds who originally conceived of the game/franchise/etc., simply didn't want it there.Woke is, by definition, something imposed. It has to be. Pic related is a multi-series IP universe entirely about gay melodrama and devil worship and absolutely nobody except the most irony-poisoned culture warriors would call it "woke". Why? Because it is what it is. It's being exactly what its creators conceived of it being, it's being true to itself and its identity, and it's courting an audience who wants and expects that kind of content. It didn't turn up in an RPG about space cowboys and start They/Them-ing everywhere entirely to prove a point.So when people are identifying woke shit as "what's wrong" with games, they're pointing to a dead canary in the coal mine. They're saying>look at this extremely obvious hallmark of executive meddling, creative dishonesty, and general disregard for the passion of the fanbase and the original creators of this work. This is a sign that we are being viewed as open wallets whose money can be extracted free of charge while being shoveled literally any old shit. We are being disrespectedAnd they're not wrong to be furious about it, and they're not wrong to celebrate when their rejection of it leads to major implosions of capital.
>>750378940There are two buttons in front of you. One is red, the other green. If you press the green button, you kill the top 1% of society. If you press the red but, the bottom 2% of society dies. Which button do you press?
This is indicative of a bigger problem. CEOs are unable to hit their milestones anymore without layoffs. Before, when the economy was healthier they could no large corporation including gaming can anymore. When people say CEOs are an issue this specifically is the issue not that their pay is too much but they have to do shit like this to hit their bonuses
>>750387430This all started after Fink got denied his yearly bonuses.
I'm honestly surprised more game developers aren't gouging out their bosses eyeballs after they pull a stunt like this
>>750387287>Commie-made TetrisCapitalism is the only reason why it left that government office
>>750387354>The reason woke is prevalent is because there are people with a lot of money (power) who like it and want to push it.ex FAANG worker here. It isn't that. It's more like the people on the very top just care about money and are often right wingers and as the middle mangers make money they don't give a fuck how and its the middle managers who are the woke ones
>>750387392both
>>750387087We all know the hiring practices of positive discrimination and different studios rehiring devs who were laid off regardless of skill aren't exactly helping the competence problem in the industry.This kind of coddling is a relatively recent trend and there is a reason the phrase "adult daycare" is most often associated with american tech companies.
>>750387354See, I don't actually think woke is being "injected" anywhere. At least not in the way anti-wokes believe it is. I think the majority of what is called "woke" gets created the exact same way you describe the "hellaverse" stuff. It's people just creating stuff they think is cool. People make lesbian, and gay, and black characters not because "they need to inject woke", but to them it's just normal to have such characters and they think they're cool. But the right completely hates such Ideas, and as such they will always act like these characters are forced in there against developers wills, when I don't think that's true, almost ever. Like, can I imagine sometimes someone tells them. "Hey we need a gay character"? Fuck, maybe. But I don't think it happens that often at all. We're far more likely to see publishers make demands like in Mankind Divided: "Hey, also put the skill points as purchasables up for sale" but again, I don't want to completely rule it out. I just don't think executives care for woke all that much at all. I don't think they force it on people. If anything what I keep hearing from the industry is that for years creatives had to fight to bring such characters into games. Like the reason we had so few female MCs for so long, is that when a game dev told their publisher about having the lead character be female, they would be told: "Make it male. We're trying to sell this game to boys. boys don't wanna play as women".
i dont care>game is goodsequel is ruined>game is good>no sequel>game is shit>sequel is shitno reason to buy games anymore
>>750387392killing either will just cause a new 1% and 2% to form. It needs to be
>>750387537This all started with the creation of the stock market and shit won't end till we destroy the stock market
>>750387861movies and shows are like this too. Mandalorian S1 was fantastic then every fucking Disney producer got their jew hands on it to push spinoffs and agendas and toys and ruined it. If Mando continued without baby yeed after giving him off to Luke it might have had a chance to recover but that shit is unwatchable now because they refused to drop the baby
>>750383148Right, communism results in a utopia where the COMMUNITY (get it, chuds?) benefits the most and everyone is treated fairly and equally. Communism could never be bad because it RESPECTS the community. History has taught us this time and time again
>>750387834>It's people just creating stuff they think is coolYou're missing the superstructure. I'm sure the Dragon Age Veilguard writer who slapped in that whole retarded ass scene about the gender identity of a lizard man or whatever it was (forgive me I never played that shit I just remember a webm) thought that was legit fire writing. I'm sure they thought it was cool. Chris Chan thought Sonichu was cool, too. You can find a retard somewhere who thinks anything is cool.the problem is that money hand-picked these idiots to make creative decisions. Money decided that these were the ideas that were going to be popular. And not in the hellaverse way, where it was always about this and never tried to hide it and was built from the ground up out of passion for it. Something else, something people already liked, had the creative minds behind it ousted or overruled because these cretins had to be inserted, and their preferences had to take precedence over the original creative vision. Why? Maybe because it's better for marketing. maybe it's because of nepotism/ideological alignment. I don't know. What I do know is that the people who made Gears of War would not have made Gears of War E-Gay, not without the injection of a specific kind of ideological thinking into their creative channels by the people who make financial decisions.So like, yeah, someone thought it was cool. All decisions get made because someone thought it was a good decision to make them. Money doesn't make decisions, it chooses who makes decisions.
>>750381598I really, really hope we do vote in a communist regime just so I can watch them execute every single one of you fucking retards. Sure, it'll be a couple of decades of the worst human rights violations ever to grace the planet, and probably set us back in 100 years economically and maybe even technologically by the end of it, but I will cheer when they line you up on the side of the road, fill you with lead, and throw you in the ditch.
>>750388000i hardly watch movies and shows anymore so i can't comment>more than 15 years without watching movies>started last year: watched venon/wardogs/ started with lord of war>only show i watched since then is Mr Inbetween
>>750383528>>750383724what's your alternative to status quo and why do you decide what communism is over those who made real communism happen?
>>750387829>positive discrimination>competence problem in the industry.Okay, so, you have been lied to. It's not your fault. But shit like "Hiring quotas" isn't hiring unqualified people. The way it works is:The problem: Studies have shown that if you have two identical resumes, but one has a white sounding and one has a black sounding name, the white sounding one is getting picked more often. This is a form of discrimination (but not necessarily intentional racism. This can be a subconscious bias). This is pretty unfair, right?The solution: Hiring Quotas. How it works: A company looks at their hiring region, and how many qualified candidates they can expect from each group. They then try to match their hiring to roughly match the proportions of these groups. So if say, they know roughly 20% of qualified applicants to be black they try to roughly reflect that in the hiring. Meaning if an equally qualified white and black person apply, and the number of black hires is below the "quota", the black candidate gets a leg up. But the important part here is: Only on equally qualified candidates. This is to counteract the bias I spoke of earlier. Now: People who want whites to keep having this bias in their favour, will tell you that quota hiring promotes unqualified people. This is simply not true. They paint it as if affirmative action programs pick up illiterate gang niggers of the street, and give them manager jobs, where they can ruin the company. This is just bullshit, designed to get you angry at an imagined injustice against white people, that doesn't even make companies better.It's part of the: "everything the left does is retarded, because I explain it as if it was retarded" series.It's basically the same as anti-feminists explaining "toxic masculinity" as "feminist thinks being a man is toxic by default". Yeah if you explain it like that it's retarded. But that's not what it is.
>>750388210They didn't make real communism happen. I'd be more inclined to indulge this line of thinking if it was a critique of the Paris Commune or the Makhnovshchina or EZLN free territories or whatever. But the funniest part about the USSR and all its adjacent projects is they never even claimed to be fucking communist. It's>Union of Soviet Socialist Republicsthey claimed to be socialists. The whole concept was "the workers control the means of production because the government represents the workers". Whether or not you agree with that assessment depends on how you view government, but in either case it claimed to be socialism, not communism. The "communist party" was so named because it carried the stated Marxist goal of BRINGING ABOUT COMMUNISM. The whole Communist Manifesto thing was that a socialist state would create the material conditions necessary for communism and then it would wither away and die and communism could happen. Even by Marx's own fucking blueprint the USSR wasn't communist, it was supposed to be a forerunner to communism.At BEST you could argue that it failed to do what Marx intended, presuming that you take for granted everything else about the USSR and don't just treat it as a dictatorship that had nothing to do with socialism. It never actually succeeded in bringing about communism.
>>750387834Clearly you've never heard larry fink speaking about dei/esg initiatives he had been pushing for over a decade.Call me we when we can make fun of "minority" characters again instead the game always walking on eggshells around them, treating them like either victims or some untouchable moral paragon.Also the reason female MCs aren't more frequent is that devs are genuinely retarded and have refused to admit males and females generally have different interests. Do you really believe the majority of the female population is gonna want to play a fps about dismembering aliens with a chainsaw in a rain of gore just because the mc is a female? I mean sure, you'll have some outliers that like it regardless of mc, but the majority of players is gonna be dudes. The fact that there have been some, maybe accidental, game successes with a mostly female playerbase yet the industry refuses to see it is the reason it fails at capturing the female audience.
>>750388136But will you eat the Onions Green made from mass-murdered homos and trannies after the inevitable agricultural apocalypse
>>750388136Imagine being this buttmad about a generic 4chan post. Your frontal lobe must be impaired.
>>750388136I am convinced the only people here that support communism are NEETs because their world view is supporting whatever gives them free shit and rewards them for doing nothing
>>750388136It's always funny to me, when people see the endless suffering under the current system. Where people are getting thrown into unmarked vans, Gas prices going through the roof, you killed a large part of your own supporters by refusing vaxxinations to "own the libs", your farmers are crying because they're getting priced out, and you generally see your country go to shit because you put a scam artist in the white house, and yet they go: "Oh wait till we try your system! That'll be real bad!" How bad can it get man? Your cops are literally shooting babies and getting off. You live in a fucking hellscape.
>7-year-old anon makes a profound claim: companies arent their friends. Companies dont want to make good games to make you happy just because, they want to make minimum viable product sold for (maximum accepted price) for as cheaply as possible >179 replies and 47 imagesIts all so tiresome
>>750388698Two electricians are on a job repairing a refrigeration unit at a commercial kitchenThe first electrician says>pass me the voltmeterThe second electrician says>maybe I will, maybe I won't. What's in it for me?Communism is everywhere. People share. I agree that trying to make sharing the entire basis of social economy without any concept of exchange is probably intractable, but this whole idea that anyone who thinks sharing is good is just a fucking freeloader is someone who probably never worked an actual job.Then again the point doesn't need to be proven. Open source software is communism. The fact that it objectively functions correctly on the basis of "from each by ability, to each by need" with no violence-based enforcement mechanism is proof that communism can work just fine. It's all circumstantial.
>>750388081Nta but from what I understand most actual attempts at communism have failed primarily because of other countries engaging in economic warfare against them to artificially make it a “bad model” and not because they were actually unsustainable? At least that’s what I’ve heard
>>750386732Leftists never were big on Israel. 4goy.org has never been in touch with reality.
>>750388765>you killed a large part of your own supporters by refusing vaxxinations to "own the libs"Trump won in 2024 though and by more than he did in 2016?
>>750381598You defended these people because they put a trans flag on twitter. You let this happen.
>>750388765>you killed a large part of your own supporters by refusing vaxxinations to "own the libs"it wasn't a vaccine
>>750378940Why didn't Capcom have layoffs after delivering hit after hit this year? Is it because the product does matter after all?
>>750381598Please redirect your attention to the scapegoat.
>>750380398human societies are inherently hierarchal. even when your communist utopia was tried last century, the communist elites lived like kings in palaces & mansions whereas the plebs survived on scraps.>inb4 true gomunisms has never been tried
>>750389006because their fanboys buy shit in a box with their name on it
>>750388412>This is pretty unfair, right?Not really, no. You get what you get, there is no point in trying to get a workforce that replicate the racial composition of society at large. If hiring is a problem, blind resumes is the solution, not a conscious attempt to flip a bias that will ultimately result in the same problem reversed.
>>750389052Who are you quoting and who are you talking to?
>>750388892That's not how capitalism works though. The 1st electrician employs the second and gives him what they both need. Calling it an economy of sharing is childish oversimplification like when people say me paying taxes and expecting a return is socialism again an oversimplification.
>>750389052>human societies are inherently hierarchal. Nature disagrees.>the communist elites lived like kings in palaces Stalin lived like a fucking peasant compared to even the poorest landowning noble.
>>750388921Eh. It's complicated. It's definitely true that economic warfare is a part of it, and there's a mixed bag of "a system that can't survive an attack isn't a sustainable system to begin with" after all it did the same shit back to capitalism and capitalism survived just fine. but it definitely had to start the game on the hardest difficulty setting which was not at all true of capitalism, which had a lot of support from the old mercantile-and-monarchy system it grew out of.The larger point, and one that is very true, is that it became totalitarian at an alarming rate. And it's fair to point out that the danger of giving economic power to the state is that it means all forms of power are concentrated in one spot, which makes it especially vulnerable to capture. Power capture happens in capitalism too but it's more convoluted because there are more loci of power that you need to control; competing firms, different levels of government that typically have adversarial relationships, etc. Western society is based on this fundamental idea that power should be adversarial with other power by default, this is an in-built check. Most of the socialist states had the opposite idea, they were based on worker unity, so they (ironically) devolved into fascism extremely quickly.
>>750389006Capcom always has a project going on for people to work on. No one is sitting around planning the next thing for 2+ years like western devs all do
>>750389052True communism has absolutely been tried and the us did everything to shut it down
>>750388921It's a common excuse but the fact is that to install true communism you have to completely control the money because money inherently rejects all your principles, and when you control the money you have far too much responsiblity. The entire system is on you, and it inevitably collapses, often violently so. Capitalism works because it's inherently honest. Yes, bad things happen because of it, but the alternative is so much worse
>>750389175>Western society is based on this fundamental idea that power should be adversarial with other power by default, this is an in-built checkBut this is clearly not working the big businesses just collaborate with the federal government and federal reserve.
>>750388892Trying to discuss these things with Americans isnt worth it. They are too brainwashed. Anything not aligning with current propaganda enriching the rich is communism. Even suggestions in how to massively reduce issues caused as unnecessary byproduct of capitalism with minimal costs are communism, despite it being about implementing capitalism as even more superior system. Like government-paid school lunches: increases student attendance, most disadvantaged get more "real benefits" despite everyone getting the same thing, corporate overlords get more competent workers, AND the alternate is more expensive (wasted education resources on someone who is truant + social security for someone terminally unemployed is far more expensive than 1 meal/day for "only" 9 years)
>>750389291It doesn't work largely because people are fucking retarded and right wingers vote against their interest.
>>750389139>That's not how capitalism works thoughAnd this is why I'm positing you are the one without a job. Both of those guys are employed by an agency that provides a service, and are simply paid wages to do a job together. Two employees on a job. Capitalism, in practice, does not look like a bunch of self-interested self-employed profit maximizing agents bartering over every little thing. It looks like communism but in the service of a corporate goal. That is the ground level reality. You go to work, you and the team you are working with have some goal to achieve, you work together to achieve it, you try to organize things in a way that leverages everyone's strengths effectively to get it done on time. Responsibility is typically shared rather than rigidly divided, if one guy finishes something early he will probably go help someone else who is behind without a second thought. Basic collaboration is a daily skill required in almost every workplace.
>>750389052This. I prefer the superior system of modern capitalism, where the elites live like kings in multiple palaces torturing and raping children, while plebs survive on scraps.
>>750389379The definition of capitalism is not everyone having their own business. What the fuck are you talking about?
>>750388442>It never actually succeeded in bringing about communism.but it did, it was just real communism instead of the theory, since ultimately some sort of variant of USSR (like china and many other historical examples) is what communists aim for. the only distinction is that self proclaimed communists are either malicious and omit that part and lie about it, or retarded to somehow think that when you have ideology where literal step 1 is "use violence to establish a dictatorship of proletariat", the end result will somehow not be violence and a dictatorship. you even make an argument for lumping socialists and communists together, since you can't be a communist without being a socialist too.
>>750380398Socialism is just disney with guns.If you want to fix shit, you need to fix pic related.You need more companies, fighting each other.>but you guys did let it happen, this is what free market does!Yep, and it's wrong and it needs to be fixed.
>>750389076Well, sadly "blind resumees" are not really an option for most jobs. And as such: hiring quotas exist. In any case now we are arguing that the method is not perfect, to which I would agree. Because clearly even after affirmative action was implemented, there still was hiring bias that happened. But in any case I just wanted to point out that this Idea, that these hiring practices cause lower quality work, because quotas cause unqualified minorities to get the jobs of qualified white people, is just a lie. The system is very specifically set up, so that the person needs to have the exact same qualification. I mean it makes sense if you think about it: Why would a company shoot itself in the leg by hiring unqualified people? Just to look good? That's not gonna help the numbers. And in the end, they only care about the numbers.Also a personal opinion: I think just removing the injustice is not enough. Any group that had a negative action taken against itself, then not only needs to have that negative action removed, it also needs to have a positive action of equal measure taken in it's favor. To put it into an analogy: If we are about to have a 100m race. And 5 minutes before the race, I start beating the shit out of you. but I stop, 1 minute before the start, I can then not say I won "fair and square" because my beatings have stopped before the race started, and had therefore nothing to do, with me winning. After all: You were no longer being brutally beaten. No, to make it fair, not only do I need to stop beating the shit out of you, you also need to get an advantage, that is equal to the beating I gave you. Or else we could not claim the race to be fair. Makes sense, right? Just because you stop an injustice, does not mean justice and equality and fairness has been reached.
>>750389461>Capitalism is an economic system where private individuals or businesses—rather than the government—own and control the means of production, such as factories, machines, land, and raw materials.As our new AI lords define it. It seems like it is basically that, yes.
>>750388892> Open source software is communismWhy are communists such niggers they always try to steal everything that doesn’t belong to them? Open source didn’t originate in communist countries
>>750389324>Trying to discuss these things with Americans isnt worth it.I am an American. Don't make snap judgments about my political economy just because you're jealous my house has central air.>>750389291True, but that's kind of the point, isn't it? If the fear is that all of this power is becoming centralized, the solution is not "we'll make a DIFFERENT power that centralizes everything". That was the Marxist plan, this idea that the issue was WHO was in power, and if you could replace the capitalist "class" with the working "class" then it would change things. The problem is that class is not some genetic trait, it's a function of your position in society. If you build a new power structure, the people in charge of it become the ruling class by default. You have to change the system so that there is no class division. Which is basically what Bakunin shouted at Marx over and over during the First International. But Marxists have this thing where they thing "doing something" is paramount so when you go "that thing you're doing is stupid and counterproductive" they just go "well it's better than doing nothing" and make a pointless regime change that kills a billion people.I guess in the USSR's defense it did turn an impoverished backwater like Russia into a global economic and technological superpower in a human generation. Calling it a "failure" is a little harsh. For whatever it got wrong, it certainly didn't just fizzle out.
>>750378940Class warfare is real. Your (proletariat) pay is their (bourgeoise) loss.
>>750378940I was sad for Tango Gameworks I am happy for BioWare
>>750389573That definition is not everyone is self employed. How come every argument with a communist is them redefining things and being disingenuous to push agendas? You would think if communist was a good system you wouldn't need to do this
>>750389461my point is every day at work you behave exactly the way the communists say you will behave, and you say "communism doesn't work because lazy greed human nature blah blah blah". Brother, every single day at work you collaborate without bartering, give what you can and take what you need, support your team, and work toward a common goal without meticulous accounting of who did which share of what, trying to maximize your own earnings and minimize your own workload.If it was impossible for human nature to function in this way, modern corporate capitalism would implode, because every single workplace would devolve into constant bickering and haggling over whose turn it was to push a broom or print a document or flip a burger or anything else. The fact that people can shut up and just work together to get some shit done that needs to get done, because the alternative is starvation (from unemployment rather than crop failure, but still) is proof of how in practice communism could absolutely work and is not at all antithetical to the human spirit.I'm not saying that means we should structure society as communism. I'm saying you need to be arguing against it for "why" reasons rather than just declaring "it won't work because it's just free gibs" every day of your working life is proof it works just like Marx said it would.
>>750389763>"communism doesn't work because lazy greed human nature blah blah blah"pic related is you
>>75038236930 years ago you were buying a physical copy of a game you owned for life. Blue hair trannies aren't the reason it's not the case anymore.
>>750378940Game development comes entirely prepaid in advance now so sales don't even matter anymore. Capitalism my fucking cock and balls.
>>750389812Yeah, this was my point with the parable of the electricians and the voltmeter.If it was human nature to maximize profit, when someone says>pass me the voltmeteryour default behavior would be to try and get something in exchange for the favor. You wouldn't just help the guy; why should you? Get your own damn voltmeter you lazy freeloader, what am I, your free voltmeter slave? You want some voltmeter gibs, you voltmeter welfare queen?The reason this seems retarded is because it is. Of course if you have the ability, and someone else has the need, it's not ridiculous for your instinct to be to help out. People help each other. We recognize that common goals require collaboration and that the enforcement costs of equal contribution outweigh the savings of just shutting up and fucking pitching in. So when someone says>pass me the voltmeteryou pass him the fucking voltmeter. That IS human nature. If you don't agree with me you are 100% autistic.
>>750389958He wasn't arguing about physical ownership retard he was arguing about quality of the games
>>750389763Not that anon, but an important tangent:Some businesses NEED TO BE government-controlled, or you devolve into dystopia instantly. If you have something everyone needs and cant live (reasonably) without, but producing it is difficult/expensive, it instantly devolves into hellscape>You need a surgery to save your life?Too bad, me and my 2 friends own the 3 surgery companies that your insurance covers. We dont officially collude, but we all are greedy: we dont want to rock the money making machine, so we all ask 30 000% markup. Pay or die.
>>750378940Stop fucking producing your games in states where rent is $6000 a month
>>750389169>Stalin lived like a fucking peasant No he didn't, you delusional communist tranny.
>>750383180Telling lies on the internet again, anon?
>>750383523>valve dont make gamesHuh?
>>750378940Have western developers attempted to make a GOOD game instead of literal gay shit?
>>750390056They don't. All the actual work is outsourced to India now.
>>750390057In comparision, he did.
>>750390012I already said how you were wrong about your retarded electrician analogy. Again you keep redefining things and say "this statement that refutes me doesn't refute me because I say so and because it hurts my argument". I know you are trying to act cavalier and aloof here but you are acting disingenuous like most communist retards.
>>750378940So why doesn't Capcom and Nintendo do it?>>750380398>commies ruin something>itz da richz fult!Nigger behaviour.
>>750389543>Why would a company shoot itself in the leg by hiring unqualified people? Just to look good?Blackrock money. That used to be a lot of money. Why bother hiring a competent developer when hiring more minorities basically gives a studio free money regardless of delivered work?Though I won't deny that "looking good" is also a reason. The really pervasive thing about modern leftwing american politics is the constant purity test, and the moment someone stumbles, they are cast out.>I think just removing the injustice is not enough.That's just retarded. Injustice should be dealt with on an individual basis, any group based action of that kind is just unnecassary payback that reinforces that different groups should be treated differently. At which point you have to discriminate for your pereception of society to even work, which is basically the opposite of what you're trying to do.
>>750390096Define "good">Something that sellsModern AAA slop (for the most part, but all market segments have hits and misses)>Something that is complex, engaging, developed with care - a real cult classicWill you pay 100$ for it? No? So you just want companies to put shitton of effort and money into something for no payback? What are you, a dirty communist begging for gibs?>B-b-but more people would buy itMaybe. Maybe not. Its a cointoss. Half of cult classics didnt have exceptional sales. Profit-wise that money is proven to be spent better on marketing.
>>750390143>So why doesn't Capcom and Nintendo do it?They are japanese so you get put in the shame room until you resign or commit sudoku
>>750380398>*teleports inside u*>*kills u*nothin personnel, kid
>>750378940Not a single AAA game has come out that's worth playing in the past 10 years. Who gives a fuck if some untalented shitters are getting laid off from their fake do nothing jobs?
>>750389169>nature isn't hierarchical
>>750390134>I already said how you were wrong about your retarded electrician analogyBy claiming if two people are on a job together, one of them is employing the other one. Which is factually not true. They are typically peers who work for the same company and they do not have a hierarchical employer-employee relationship, so there is no immediate ownership-and-control structure which dictates that one tells the other what to do.
>>750389543So, because modern US took lands of Indians, we should give them back right now and double that? Or perhaps reparate it with money that would allow them to buy land area equal to US?Fucking retard.
>>750390328Yeah? It's a circle.
>>750380575good morning saar
>>750389223And it tried to shut down the US just as hard. The US was simply better. Cuz communism sucks.
>>750389763>"why" reasons anyone who thinks about communism or just looks at history shouldn't need someone else to explain it. communism doesn't work because it fundamentally cannot allocate resources where they are needed (demand), and worse, actively prevents methods of allocation that work (free trade). this is ultimately why the "starvation" meme isn't just a meme but a repeating pattern in communist countries. because if there isn't enough supply of food, communism actively suppresses people getting food and turn what would be a shortage into massive famines. it works this way with other goods too, but the problem is that westerners who lived their whole life under capitalism and only shortage they experienced is high end GPUs and millions killed by retarded economic system is unfathomable abstraction.
>>750390334see>>750389139disingenuous retard. It does matter if one employs the other or both are employed by someone else "sharing" is an oversimplification. This is always how you sociopath snakes argue. "Oh you are against this well akshually you already do the thing you are against even though you aren't"
>>750390410but there are tons of capitalist countries that are also perpetually shit and starving, even worse than the USSR
>>750390348I mean, we fucking genocided these people and took their lands. I don't think it's physically possible to pay them back for as much as we took from them.
>>750390328Human nature isn't. Mankind is generally a pretty egalitarian bunch. Paradoxically this is why power is so pervasive, because most people most of the time aren't directly confronted with the violence of the power structure, but challenging the abstraction involves participating in that kind of direct violence. We're all just going along and getting along here, and the idea of setting a bunch of shit on fire and/or grabbing a rifle and storming something sounds really unpleasant, I don't want to do that to someone or put myself in harm's way. Power is allowed to exist because it's mostly just an abstraction, it's just "the way things are", and people are generally averse to direct confrontational violence and the exertion of control.By default we don't tend to arrange ourselves into structures of violent domination, in fact we generally have a pretty strong aversion to anyone who tries to push other people around. This is why the bully is always the villain in our best-loved stories. But systems we trust can metamorphose into systems perpetuated by violence pretty slowly over many generations so that none of us really notice and then suddenly we're all fucked unless we nut up and overthrow something. Kinda sucks.
>>750390456>It does matter if one employs the other or both are employed by someone else "sharing" is an oversimplification.lmao no it's not. It's an accurate description that does not, at all, oversimplify anything. At work, on a project, in a team, you give according to your ability and you do not haggle with your peers to maximize your personal advantage. You engage in exactly the sort of behavior, every single fucking working day of your life, that you claim no human being will ever engage in because it's 'against human nature'I'm certain you're autistic. I'm absolutely certain of it.
>>750390631this is just an extremely long winded way of saying human nature is hierarchicalyou’re such a retarded midwit, please kys
>>750390398>And it tried to shut down the US just as hard. No? The USSR main stance with the USA was that they were fucking crazy and to leave them alone.
>>750390483i explained the "why is communism retarded" question the anon so desperately wanted. i could take your bait but ultimately that has nothing to do with communism.
