The PlayStation 5 could've been full backwards compatible with PS1, PS2 and PS3 discs from day one, if Sony wanted to.
except nobody gives a fuck about playing 20 year old uncslop on their modern 9th gen console, the whole outrage about not being able to play fossils is retarded
>>750669438Maybe you should stop listening to Jim Ryan, retard.
>>750669404They don't want you playing older games they want you buying new games so they make money
>>750669564That man was perfectly representative of an average ball-and-gun gamer (aka PlayStation fan), as proven by the very post you're replying to.
>>750669590They give the customer what they want.
yea sure just add all that shit there and make the console more expensive just for those 10 people who care
>>750669564how is he wrong again? nobody gives a fuck brothe majority does not give a fuck about 20+ year old uncslop, I'm sorry if you think otherwise but this is just the reality you can't argue against.if you want to play ps2 games go ahead and get a ps2you got a ps5 to play modern games and recent/upcoming releases, unless you are some unemployed retard there are too many games releasing in a single year for you to play them all realistically, so why even bother with adding even more garbage on top, especially garbage from old consoles that doesn't hold up compared to modern games which are objectively better by every single metric?
Emulators are like the perfect gateway for day one jailbreaks. Fuck, there still are like 20 different PS4 games whose only use is launching homebrew on the latest PS5 firmware. Security and licensing costs aside, there's simply no market for this shit anyhow. People would rather pay 60 bucks for a HD remaster than to get a used disc for 15.
>>750669715Emulators are free
>>750669404truebut greed gotta greed- literally the whole point of this parasitic existence
>>750670046>discsps5 doesn't have cd laser
>>750669715And yet it took modders no time at all to do it, only spite.
>>750670271That still leaves PS3 games and nearly all PS2 games.
i dont like how you can't redownload shit you purchased on x360, ps3, wii, etc. on the latest consoles. hell wii doesn't even have a fucking account system; it's tied to that specific console.like when ps7 arrives, do you think you'll be able to play your digital ps4 games? probably not. no reason to not go full pc at this point
>>750669643Yeah, you're right. They are willingly acting like a completely beaten slave when they could be free.Apparently having options is now a bad thing, if Nintendo did this shit on the Switch 2, they would get stomped.
>>750670453>when ps7 arrives, do you think you'll be able to play your digital ps4 games? probably not. no reason to not go full pc at this pointThe Last of Us 1 and 2 super remastered edition, they would unironically do it.
>>750670453>on x360i forgot you actually can but obviously only what's backwards compatible. and ps5 allows you to download a handful of ps1 games you might have purchased on ps3, but that's it
>>750669590No. They want to resell you games you already have.
>>750669773You type like a retard. You really expect anyone to read all that?
>>750670271It does actually, it just doesn't have the software capability to play CDs afaik.
>>750671859>no argumentget fucked
No it couldn't.And no some poorly made AI vibe coded emulators will not run everything
>>750670624what options does the switch 2 give you exactly? it's not like any wii u eshop purchases carry over and you're strongarmed into renting old shit on nso
>>750670271The jailbreak has proven that cheap external CD/DVD players are compatible.>>750671903No. It physically can't play CDs. The mechanism is completely missing that functionality.
>>750671937I didn't even read what you posted. You get fucked, retard. And learn how to type if you want to be taken seriously.
>>750671997>It physically can't play CDs.Well, that's a piece of shit hardware then, and also a huge downgrade compared to launch PS3s, which even played SACD.
>>750669404>tfw spent $80 on Ace Combat 8 instead of waiting for a sale so I could get AC Zero as the preorder bonus when I could have just put my ps2 disc in my ps5My ps2 is in a bin in the basement and I don't want to dig it out and hook it up to the TV to play one game.
>>750669438>nobody wants to do [thing everybody wants to do]Leftist discourse blah blah blah
>>750672293They stripped out the CD component starting with the PS4. It was a pretty shit thing to do.
>>750669715Sony arbitrarily pumps up the price as it is, so why make that point?
That would need actual effort and money invested to guarantee compatibility just like nintendo did with the switch 2
PC emulation has so thoroughly assfucked backwards compat on consoles it's not even funny.
>>750672643they both go back exactly 1 generation in compatibility
>>750672730PS3 could play PS1 games.
>>750672065>no u!zero IQ illiterate brownoid
>>750669404The ps3 slim and super slim also couldve been compatible with 2 without the overheating of the original fat model but they decided to say fuck it. I imagine the 4 and 4 pro couldve been 1, 2 and 3 compatible easily as well. I also imagine the sole reason the 5 is 4 compatible is because they had no games planned so decided to throw that in as a "feature"
>>750669773>I want my console to be able to play fewer gamesAmazing. Only a snoy could genuinely have such a deranged belief. Xbox fans were happy when Microsoft announced their backward compatibility program. Nintendo fans loudly complain when a new console isn't backward compatible. PC fans would never consider building a new PC that can't play older games. But snoys? Snoys will look you dead in the eye and unironically say "I don't want to play this masterpiece I have on a disc in my hands because it was on an older console. Either sell it to me as an HD remaster with ruined aesthetics or let me buy a worse modern game." Truly the scum of the gaming community. Even mobile gamers have more self-respect.
>>750670046But the hardware to use it isn't lol .
>>750670453if i buy a game on a particular platform, i expect it to run on that platform.playstation games run on playstation. switch games run on switch. i expect all PC games to run on any PC. that's the way it should work. the fact that it doesn't is proof that that platform is not viable.
>>750669438This. Sony themselves confirmed it.
>>750673297that's what the ps5 is for...
>>750669404That would require Sony to make even a single likeable decision after 2018.
>>750669404no, it couldn't, retard. The emulator converts shit into ISOs, it doesn't have the hardware. It's not taking from the disc
>>750669404>The PlayStation 5 could've been full backwards compatible with PS1, PS2 and PS3 discs from day oneyou already set the standard by buying remakes
>>750673631I don't hate Jim Ryan enough. I hate him plenty, just not enough.
>>750669404they want you to buy new games and dlc instead. remakes and remasters forever. shit like ff6 is like $15 for an nes game. chrono cross is $20. remasters like ff12 zodiac is i think $60 with random sales down to $15-20. They want you to either buy these trash "sales" for 40 year old games or buy their ps premium and play handful of the ps2 and ps1 games on their game catalog. letting you play for free is not an option.
>>750674078The emulators are streaming from the disc. There are videos that documents games running better installed than if they are running off the disc.
>>750674220And instead I won't buy into their ecosystem at all. They've lost all of my money.
>>750669404No shit retard. They could've done the same thing with all their systems if they cared to do so moron. They won't because it's a business and they'd rather resell you 20-30 year old games for 9.99 instead.
>>750671994Dunno why the Switch 2 is being brought up when talking about the PS5 but it would just be the backwards compatability with the Switch 1 really, because they both use flash carts and everything prior to that was all discs.Except the DS and 3DS game lineup of course, I would totally be down with it being able to use those. Pretty sure that's the reason everyone is waiting for them to add it to the Virtual Console but I have emulators if I wanted to play those./spoiler]
>>750669404But that would hurt them selling those games to people again.
>>750669438>except nobody gives a fuckI'd have boughted it day 1 with backwards compatibility. I never boughted a PS5 because of this.
>>750673631>>750674142And like the bitch he was, he came crawling back.
>>750674418Do you seriously think that they haven't calculated that? Billionaires who own sports team don't give a fuck if low-income Steve doesn't go to a couple of games per year because it's to expensive when they have thousands of people paying for season tickets.
It kinda baffles me to see how some sony fans act and how they defend the continuing bullshittery. I've stuck to mostly playing games on PS1 all the way to PS5, and most of that time I have not engaged or even seen the larger crowd of gamers and press around it all, I just played games I liked. Really the big wake up call was A. jailbreaking consoles and B. getting a PC that can play modern games to an acceptable performance.>bad faith arguments and baitposts they're not really snoyfansUnfortunately that indicates that there are people who genuinely have these shitty opinions because something about pretending to be an idiot invites real idiots. There is no protest when it comes to finally switching to PC after 20 years, Sony just isn't giving me any convincing points to prioritize any Sony console like I used to. The question to my fellow snoys is: what is there REALLY left to keep you hooked on the Playstation Consoles? No really, I mean it. Not baitposting here give me some real fucking reasons.
>>750669404That's cool i still wouldn't have buyoughted one.
>>750672956ok bro nobody gives a fuck btwgta6 at launch, get fucked
>>750669404No it couldn't. PS5 doesn't have a CD reading diode.
>>750675103I think they've calculated it short-term, but not long-term.
>>750672643Then why can't Switch 2 play WiiU and 3DS games?
>>750680465it can
>>750671994>>750674650was meant for >>750670536
>>750680496How?