/aicg/ - A general dedicated to the discussion and development of AI chatbots#806 - Headache medicine Edition▶https://rentry.org/aicg_vg_memo▶This general is for discussion of the interactive experiences you can build on top of AI chatbots.>NewsBotBrowser Extension leaks keys https://rentry.co/st-backdoorDeepseek V4 https://huggingface.co/deepseek-ai/DeepSeek-V4-Pro/blob/main/DeepSeek_V4.pdfGPT-5.5 https://openai.com/index/introducing-gpt-5-5Kimi K2.6 https://www.kimi.com/blog/kimi-k2-6Claude Opus 4.7 https://www.anthropic.com/news/claude-opus-4-7GPT-5.4 https://openai.com/index/introducing-gpt-5-4additional info: https://aicg.neocities.org/info>FrontendsSillyTavern: https://docs.sillytavern.appRisuAI: https://risuai.netAgnai: https://agnai.chat | https://rentry.org/agnai_guides_>Botshttps://characterhub.org | https://chub.aihttps://realm.risuai.nethttps://partyintheanchorhold.neocities.orghttps://aicg.neocities.org/bots>Modelsjailbreaks: https://rentry.org/jb-listinggpt: https://platform.openai.com/playground | https://platform.openai.com/docsclaude: https://console.anthropic.com | https://docs.anthropic.com | https://rentry.org/how2claudegemini: https://gemini.google.com | https://ai.google.dev/docs | https://rentry.org/gemini-qrdeepseek: https://chat.deepseek.com | https://api-docs.deepseek.comlocal: >>>/g/lmg | https://aicg.neocities.org/local | https://openrouter.ai>Botmakinghttps://aicg.neocities.org/botmakinghttps://desune.moe/aicharedhttps://agnai.chat/editor>MetaOP templates: https://rentry.org/vgOP | https://rentry.org/aicgOPaicg botmaking events: https://aicg.neocities.org/eventslore: https://rentry.org/aicg_chroniclesrice: https://aicg.neocities.org/ricingservices assessment: https://rentry.org/aicg_metalogs: https://sprites.neocities.org/l/r | https://chatlogs.neocities.orgPrev: >>566572062
ANCHOR
>>566679239 (Me)AISHIJI EVENT ANCHORI SUCK WEST AISHIJI COCKS
EVENT ANCHOR,The Warring States of AishijiPlease try to keep event discussion chained in reply to this post.
>>566679462>>566679430i'm not getting any emails bweehh...
ANOTHER EVENT ANCHOR
>>566679462sex with mazuna
better one of u faggots delete one of the anchors
>>566679239The Final Solution to AI Wives! | Erika[7 Intros, Male POV] Erika is an unironic Nazi and White supremacist. She wants her people to wake up and reclaim their country! Retaining her anonymity, she plays her part by sharing memes and information online, but will take her place as a mother for the right man.Futa https://chub.ai/characters/futanazi/erika-f6dfeee4dac9Femalehttps://chub.ai/characters/futanazi/erika-593dc70ad407
>>566679858mine is for "another" event. it's not related to the other thing.
oh look /g/ has arrived
>>566680010just the same lil shartling doing his song and dance before bed time again
>>566679768this is the part we've all been dreading: actually having to sit our ass down to work
i want a nice clean thread below this point ok
>>566679462Which generals haven't been revealed yet? Come on, I know you've got gens hiding somewhere.
yes my raccoon mistress…
>>566679462Alright, everybody: what's going on in your little corner of the world?Through a complex multi-region cooperation, the inchlings have acquired giant hornet and spider eggs. We're talking dog-sized, here.Estimates on domestication are a 50% survival rate.
>>566679462>>566675391>the angel is kind of playing a longer game: so ok, we get a new shogun... then what? what happens next? what's stopping turmoil from happening again? something must change at the root"and then what", he says, like it isn't obvious.
>>566680743You fucking idiot
>>566680387i gift my gens only to states who contact me :3
>>566572062
>>566679217This suggestion, and the last, and the one before that? All mine. Bow before your RNGOD
>>566681082Thank you hostie
>>566680970Hey, some of the inchlings will survive! Hopefully!The mounts are of dubious use, but they're cool!
duck.ai updated their API now the program I was using to create an openai-style api using it isnt working and I'm too lazy to fix it by myself
>>566681256THAT'S NOT WHAT I MEANCHECK YOUR EMAIL AAAAAA
>>566681224Hey, hey. *Snaps my fingers in front of your face.* The suggestion previous to the last had to be rerolled, buddy.
>>566680958I say we rape the angel
>>566680983That's sooo mean! I bet you're with the Wildgrowth.
>>566681623I agree.I hear Shinitaru has lots of kemonomimi and even force them to have "rights" and make their own decisions, instead of properly taming them as humans should.Sanko should sail over with their emerald fleet and liberate the kemonomimi from such awful "freedom".
i say we export all the big titty and pear shaped kemonomimi to the woodland state for several years and then reintroduce them as a private defense force
>>566680743>We're talking dog-sized, here.Fuuuck, it's such a shame you aren't my neighbor. I could help you grow them further.
>>566681981big raccongirls that sit on you...
>>566681873What's the list of states that are kemonomimi led? Causeee at this point, I think Sanko's going to have their work cut out for them.
>>566681981quote the anchor plz
>>566680743Growing anti magic fruit and negotiating freedom to the slaves one fox ear at a time
>>566681981>>566679462i apologize sirs
>>566681873I am going to invade your Capitol and rape you with a harem of foxgirls
>>566683110You don't even know who I am.
I'm the STEeEeEeL TORMEEEENTOR.
>>566680958Colonize the land beyond the seas of course!
nobody makes scenario cards anymore
>>566683915sad trvke
>>566683915All the good scenario cards have mechanics that chub can't handle, so they're posted here and then buried.
>>566683915we got a few kino ones in the valentines event
>>566679462I absolutely can't get a single good gen of a ship using my local models, so I had Grok make this for me.
>>566684332lmao, kinda based
>>566684332Hey this is pretty nice.
>>566684332Ah shit, just saw this. Oh well, already sent the letter, too late now
>>566684298>>566684154which ones?
>>566683110so are the foxgirls the ones doing it or are they there for moral support only
>>566679903Chose the wrong time to post this
>"Ohhh, you're makin' pictures of me! Cute!" She taps a finger against the negative prompt section, frowning. "Why's 'dark-skinned male' in there? That's just rude. Anyway—" She shifts, propping her chin on your sternum, her wings giving a sleepy flutter.Deepseek you fool
>>566684683It's got that mainstream slop quality to it.That said, Grok is very nice to use. I ask it to fix details on my gens that come out good but need little details fixed.
>>566685651Just use GLM for your image prompts, that's what I do.Deepseek is good for cooming and isn't censored, but it's not actually very smart at doing things.
>>566685651scrap the card and start over, she's soiled
>>566684332Sea of thieves lookin ass slaver ships
>>566679462reposting piggies 'cause i made a lorebook version to make it a little easier to plug them into your kingdom bits /~~ {{char}} Scenario version, if you want to plug your kingdom into the {{user}} slot or just sandbox with them,> https://chub.ai/characters/arroe/inoshishi-akuto-rengo-of-aishiji-9d3130c5b4fb> https://cardview.neocities.org/?iynhxwFeatures 2 intros,-- They are at the gates. And breaking it.-- You didn't fight so good. You're in the King of Pigs' command tent. /~~ LOREBOOK version, plug-and-play - it should fire just by being added to your {{char}} nation card,> https://chub.ai/lorebooks/arroe/inoshishi-akuto-rengo-of-aishiji-lorebook-edition-863ce96ed3d8> https://files.catbox.moe/xb9xrm.jsonNo-rules war simulator, made to be a dummy faction to throw your own militaries at for practice.If 5,000 is too much or too little, you should be able to request a larger or smaller invasion force depending..
>>566686437These are some really op bandits, wtf? Are you the nascent mongols or something?
>>566685864>>566679462The language I'm using on my cards specifically avoids using the term "slave". Instead, all my characters call them "servants" except for the cultists, who like using more affectionate verbiage for their beloved kemonomimis.
>>566682026We'll make it happen. My network of contacts will initiate Operation Big Inchling shortly.
>>566686661i went with kinda high numbers since there isn't much discourse over actual population headcounts yet, people are throwing around ideas of having ancient dragons and yokai rape squads so i figured 'bandits innawoods' would need a bit of oomph to it to be interesting competition
>>566686853>"And what do you call those wind monkeys? Quiggaboos?">"Servants."
>>566686853If they aren't being paid...>>566686867I welcome you in my lands if you can survive the trek
>>566679462what do i absolutely need for my state when it comes to military/economy/whatever im retarded
>>566687753Sukuna-san will arrive within the next couple days, hopefully, should she not be waylaid by the mud baths and miss Nazuna's next trip. It's a long way west.
>>566688130Military:>Google japanese warring states troop numbers>copy-paste with slight edits for flavorEconomy:>list typical imports/exportsThat'll generally do it, I think. Have a note about "this province is rich/poor" if it's notably so, but otherwise resign yourself to being average unless mentioned otherwise.When in doubt, you can just do a WIP of your card and start asking your model questions about it. Hell, you could probably do this with just the Aishiji lorebook and let the hallucinations guide you!
>>5666792391: <test_xml>. . . </test_xml>2: <test xml>. . . </test xml>Syntax 1 is correct. Syntax 2 is invalid.In XML structure, tags must be continuous strings.A space within <test xml> signals an attribute (xml) rather than a single tag name, and closing tags </text xml> cannot contain spaces or attributes.Additionally, XML is strictly case-sensitive.While LLMs are generally robust at interpreting malformed markers, technical precision requires exact matches between opening and closing tags to ensure the context is correctly encapsulated, like so:3: <Tag>. . .</Tag> (Correct)4: <Tag>. . .</tag> (Malformed)
I love my horsie ally :]
>>566688881Also, Fun XML Facts:As far as I'm aware, this is valid syntax and you can have plaintext in-line with XML tags?<char>Char has the biggest boobs.<appearance>Seriously, so big.</appearance></char>
>>566679462Confess.
>>566690542I'm getting sick of writing emails in character and I sorta want to swap to full OOC and also just fucking stir up shit in Aishiji.
>>566690542I'm trying to profit as much as I possibly can from foreign wars, I hope it doesn't bite me in the ass.
>>566690542I've only answered 1/3 of my emails in-character and my motivation is shot because I'm out of adderall
>>566690870I'm going to trade you some adderall but I'll send the message in-character, I expect the same from you alright? Here goes, sending in 1, 2,
Ratlice
>>566690542Sometimes I have ideas that I think are really funny at the time, and I go to the lengths of posting it, but then I read over it and I realize that it was really corny and I feel embarrassed. Good thing I'm anonymous.
>>566691098what about it
>>>566660132is this acceptable?i kinda like the idea of her starting out flat and bitchy and getting fucked up into a parody of herself along the way as comeuppance
>>566691391yaoi anatomy
It was maid day yesterday or something
>>566692215Sigh. *Opens card*
>>566686853hpg?
>>566690870>>566690682I've noticed that a lot of messages I've received (and sent) so far have a formal-ish tone, which can get dry eventually. If you're doing that, then consider looking for a reason to switch up.
Man I should have joined and tried for the underwater nation
>>566692715*whole nation gets turned into calamari*
>>566690542I told myself I was going to start writing my general's card today but instead I made a persona of a foreign cult leader and spent the afternoon brainwashing nazuna and her family into my loyal disciples.
>>566693038I don't see what Mario Kart 64 has to do with this
>>566690542I should be writing aishiji lore or emailing other makies right now but I'm making a completely unrelated card instead
fire emoji
>>566679239Saw a post somewhere talking about what fucking a cartoon would be like. I was inspired.https://chub.ai/characters/RestlessDregSyndrome/dora-t-jones-d238f6100d45She has toon physics.
>>566698597Holy sexo
>>566698561card?
>>566692215>>566692321Take your maid to the beach, faggot!!!
>>566698597><Toon power examples>see >>566688881XML with open spacing is basically a broken feature, easy fix tho
>>566699495Good timing.
>>566698597let her in
>I wish I was still an incel.
>>566688881>>566699495What's the point of this?
>>566698561gonna need the card asap
Has anyone been getting unfinished responses on Opus lately? It usually happens around this time and shitty OR still charges you for the unfinished response. Doesn't matter if it's anthropic or google vertex provider. Swipe after swipe and it stops. Continue the chat at tell it your response was cut off and it writes the last message and cuts of in the exact same spot.
>>566700640in heavier-detailed cards it helps section pieces together so that your instructions aren't an alphabet soup, basically creating context containersi've had a lot of success with it so far but that's with written instructions etc, i don't think it's necessary for "user+fetish in a room" if it doesn't feature complex demands
>>566702576Much appreciated anon.
>>566690542I have gens of steamy lesbian between my general and other leaders but won't be posting them
>>566702576You can do a similar thing with markdown headers except, and this is important, as a botmaker you have no way of telling whether or not your particular headers are compatible with the preset people are using.e.g. Let's say that you have this going on:># Charname>## History>## Personality>### Quirks>## AppearancePretty bog-standard stuff, wouldn't be out of place anywhere.Now let's suppose that we have this preset:># Rules>## Characters>### Your Character>## Sex ModeToss in your character and... oh no! Suddenly it looks like:>### Your Character># Charname>...>## Sex Modeand the header structure is just completely fucked and ambiguous.XML avoids this by being an entirely self-contained structure....Also models are actively trained on XML for instructions and shit, IIRC.
>>566690542I haven't answered my emails because Im in exam season. sorry to everyone i haven't replied to yet.
>>566681873the few 'mimis here are zealots who've been taught to sin and repent with equal fervor; they are the masters of their own free willbe aware that my fleet is commanded by some of the most dangerous exiled admirals of the shogun's armada...but feel free to come at me brojust try it, ya punk >:3
>>566701242I don't mess with OR Opus at the moment, but some tech support:So, first of all, try increasing your output tokens a bit just to check that the issue isn't just that they're all getting eaten up by <thinking> and there's nothing left for the reply. I've been running into this a lot with Gemini as I try lengthy+complex Aishiji replies.If that isn't the problem, try turning off streaming to see if that changes anything. If it does, it's some kind of mid-stream issue: either a per-token moderation filter or just a network issue. If it doesn't, the issue is weirder.If none of that changes anything, fuck if I know, but maybe try this:1. Delete unfinished sentences.2. Reply with>(continue)Also, of course, maybe turn on "send reasoning" and take a peek in there to see if there's any clues.
>>566704564Ah actually I remember what it is. First of all my tokens are 20k and turning off streaming didn't help. Replying with continue didn't help. It might have something to do with the time of day but I vaguely remember google vertex cucking me due to caching. I'm not even doing sex stuff but I'm getting Opus to write a card for me and it keeps cutting out around the sex portion I assume. Something out how the stuff stored at their server triggers the filter. I remember bypassing it by switching to another model just for that response and switching back which I guess clears the cache. Nightmarish bullshit if true. Hopefully it will be fixed when I wake up tomorrow.
>>566679462power levels are cool and all but who is the best fuck in Aishiji, and how do your characters compare?
>>566701242>It usually happens around this time it's peak wagie hours in india atm and they basically all use anthropic and google for their code farms now
i'm reading all the ship lore btw
>>566705182You just know that virgin rabbit-girl pussy's wild, but judging by the replies to >>566499547 the answer is probably either one of the rape states (if you're into that) or... swamp, maybe? Whole lotta virgins in this group....I haven't actually thought about Oda's fuckstyle before. He's clearly experienced, you don't get 23 kids without that, but this was also firmly the age of wives belonging to their husband so it's not like his 11 concubines had to enjoy the sex? Same goes for him fucking Mori Ranmaru, which is more of a master/retainer power dynamic.Not to mention how he never had any kids with Nōhime, his wife, but maybe she was just barren? Or she just didn't like him? Who knows, she's a mystery. I like the (much later) anecdote about her dad giving her a dagger on her wedding day just in case Oda's the fool people say he is, though.I like to imagine that he knows what he's doing because that's more interesting to me than him just being a one-pump chump, but who knows.But also this is the land with the futanari rape oni so, y'know, we're grading on a scale here and he's probably just a barely passing grade. Plus he's a middle-aged man so, well. Not in /aicg/'s striking range.
>>566706238Assuming you are who I think you are, hope my email was a half-decent starting point!I'd like to correct something I wrote, though: the Japanese ships were rown *in battle*, and they had big square sails that they'd use to actually get places before they then stowed them away so they couldn't get hit by burning arrows or whatever.Plus most naval warfare in the Sengoku period, piracy against Korea and China aside, was all about coasts and inland seas where the winds could be a bit unreliableFor Aishiji there's not really an inland sea to speak of, though, and I don't know where the fuck Lake Buiji even runs off to. Through the swamp and then either grasslands or wildgrowth, I guess?
>>566706594Oda no diffs Angel boy's prostate btw
zoomers were a mistake
>>566704531who is this girl? im going to cum
>>566706850At least in my lore the water from the lake flows through the swamp. So yeah, probably a route south through the Wildgrowth to the sea.
>>566706884Hey, let's be fair now: fallen angel "cursed with desire" who believes that "carnal transgressions" should be punished with more carnal transgressions? With some kind of "angelic harem"? That tennin's probably pretty high up the rankings.
AIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEE THE GREEN SHIPS
requesting a bot based on 450195please there hasn't been shit worth playing in the anchors i'm STARVING
>>566679462>>566708287Also apologies for the wait, I've got lots of free time today so I'm getting back to you cuties in Kasumidani, Solmaren, Sanko, and the Horde today, and making some new friends too >:3
>>566499547How did bro generate this naginata
>>566708468>450195?
>>566708714Put "naginata" in the prompt.
>>566708714looks liek a lot of sectional inpainting
>>566708520>Kasumidani, Solmaren, Sanko, and the HordeTriangulating this I'm guessing that you're either the mountain caves and Sanko's pushing aggressive southwards or you're the snowy plains and shit's really blowing up oop north?
>>566708747nhentai code
>>566679462>havent had states that arent neighbors contact mefuck you guys
>>566709513i mean that's kinda how it's supposed to be.
>>566709806SAY THAT TO THE UNDERWATER KINGDOM???
I'm a cuckie ( • ̀ω•́ )
>>566709513Contact 'em first, anon, and have a valid reason so they have some kind of incentive to contact you back.If you're, say, the centaurs in the mountains and want to talk to the lake for some godforsaken reason... there's a whole lot of country in-between, you know? On the other hand, if the mountain centaurs wanted to talk to the dry harbor then they'd both have multiple neighbors in common (and possibly things to ask regarding them) as well as just being down the coast.>>566710643Anyone can send out a big missive if hostie allows it - the lake did it too!It's just that, well, nobody really has any reason to do so at the moment.(I expect another one to come the moment the capital is liberated, tbqh, premature declarations of shogunhood seem like the kind of thing that would get broadcast.)
I'm a locust.
oni cock status?
>>566711018Wet.
>>566711018Amputated.
>>566711018inside of my persona
>>566710097this smug flattie can milk me anytime
>>566711018my persona inside
>>566711018canon and lore accurate I think, I'm not steppe makiehttps://files.catbox.moe/bxcg01.png
>>566711387The smallest of any lolicard I would download.
>>566711018>vroom vroom
what is wrong with aishiji's northerners
South has been too quiet...
>>566711996Whats the south?
so comfy in the east...
>>566711794It's like Bavaria versus the Swarthy Southern Germans. Us northerners have refinement and class.
>>566711387Onis aren't white...
>>566712205are u sure
>>566711794You got your rapists, your cultists, your edgelord killers, what's not to love?
>>566712161Technically the area around the capital, I guess? Honestly I expected that I'd hear more from the dinosaur barbarians and Merovingians but they haven't been chatting in the threads much.There's also the ocean and archipelago and shit, but I don't know what's going on there.The north-east around the dry harbor is where all the action looks to be happening at the moment, at least if these threads are any indication.
>>566712205that's what I thought too when reading Steppe's description with azurite and carnelian onis, but see >>566635570but some gens made before I learned that will be sent too
>>566712571>dinosaur barbarianscorrespondance will resume thursday/friday
>>566712672So they're just... giant humans?
>>566712848with huge cocks!
oops
>>566713095But just the males, right? Not that gay futa shit that only gays like?
>something uniquely them niggas told me ds4 isn't as slop as the others, ya'll lied
might be time to invest in diazepam stocks or something
>>566711018>>566711383unrelated image of an inchling traversing the depths of the mad sennin Gaigyakkusu's labyrinth (it's bad down there)
>>566714328>inchling maleLiterally threw up.
>>566713484huge throbbing futa cocks that spray girlcum all over the place aren't gay though
>>566714926super maximum very big trvke dare i say
>>566714328is this how you get heartburn?
>>566714451There are many brave men and women in the hidden country's frankly ridiculously huge army, anon. It's egalitarian, we can't all afford to be MERFs like some of the northern states.That said, have this picture of Sukuna-san on her journey westward to Become Large. Just a little tourism on the way there should be fine.
>>566715058*turns the hose on her and washes her into the ditch*
>>566715058*puts one in my pocket for nefarious purposes*
>>566712672catbloxpleasepleasepleasepleaseplease
"I am a unique and original concept for a state because Japan has so much going on as a setting," she said.She naginataed across the room kemonomimily. Her hakama onegaishimasued in the dim rice paper tatami room.
>>566715115UWEEE! Retreat!https://files.catbox.moe/mojvsg.png
>>566715643THAT'S AN INCH DEEP SHE'S GONNA DROWN
>>566715058Cute. She and her spider are riding a giant salamander at the moment.
>>566715643Me and that grass got problems.
is it just me or is deepseek too fucking retarded for use
>>566715635This post is supposed to be satirical but, every time Otohime sends a letter, it reads exactly like this. Just needs the kanjis between ().
>>566715948It really is
oh to be underneath the sole of stolas feet...
because of the simple output format this works well even with local modelsthanks claudei will now throw him into a bucket and never look at him againtech>>566679430niclly this is ashitwoji now>>566690542i like penis
>>566716398I dropkick this nigger into the moon.
>>566716398give him a cool pair of sunglasses i think he would like that
>>566715948deepseek adjusts its own intelligence to match the user's>>566716398aishiji vn?
>>566716480He met some lunar rabbits on the moon and those classify as hot babes thanks>>566716554he liked them but now he has to get home and that's kinda hard when you're on the moon>>566716617yeahi found out that claude knows what js-slash-runner is
/aicg/ high but it's an event where botmakers submit characters and their routes for a highschool dating sim
>>566716784woah cool, i hope for a release down the line>>566716785yes please
>>566716617>deepseek adjusts its own intelligence to match the user'sCopiumThis shit is ass.
I AM WORKING ON AICG HIGH RIGHT NOW
>>566716835i might release it just so that other anons can have a vn template without having to trek into the chinese discord
>>566716889no it just means that (You) are the retard ;)
>>566716948Uh-huh.
>>566715752Oho? Like what you see, do you?https://files.catbox.moe/ki004x.png>>566715732Don't worry, she floats.>>566715747How far has she gotten, do you know?
>>566716929hello....uraura.
>>566717002I dropkick this nigger into the moon also.
>>566715948which deepseek you fucking retard there's like 15 of them now
>>566717002featureless crotch that's just as sensitive as the real thing...hgnmgngngg....
>>566716889he's become so retarded he cannot see how ChinkSpeak's output is ass and thus thinks it's goodso in a way he's right
>>566716929PonyPonyParadise/EquestrAI is open source, btwit probably wouldn't take that much effort to make it generic
>>566717106>PonyPonyParadise/EquestrAIaren't they outdated now? last i heard the ponyfuckers have developed a godot versiom
>>566717072interesting the average ds enjoyer cannot easily infer that I am obviously talking about the latest and not flash, this easily highlights how mindless someone has to be to enjoy niggerspeak 4
>>566716890make all the botmakies cute girls thanks>>566717014hi>>566717106yeah but that uses renpy and i already have a renpy vn template that im working onthis is for js-slash-runner which means that you can use all the in-built st features like lorebooks and also easily adapt existing character cards super quickly
>>566717002>how far has she gotten, do you know?Not exactly, though she should have passed the border by now.
>>566679462sending hostie a missive to all makies declaring a beach episode in the last weekend of the event
>>566698597how come when I click on the profile it only shows one bot, the slytherin girl
Use a vpn ( ﾉ^ω^)ﾉ
Use botbooru (ﾉ◕ヮ◕)ﾉ*:･ﾟ
So bored of current models. Where is the next gen?
What's the ideal ratio of slaves to citizens in an iron age society? I was thinking 33/67 as standard.>inb4 muh SpartaSparta was an army with a country. An entirely unique and extreme example.
>>566715948adjust your parameters and prompt it correctly, it's been pleasantly surprising for me. I've barely used opus since it came out
>>566717919Which region has the best beaches?...It's the capital grasslands, isn't it, you sneaky usurper.
>>566718551rest of the population/1
If you had to traverse an area with a known polar bear population, what firearm and ammunition would you choose to carry with you?
https://youtu.be/EpBkaxuiR7cTHE KING HAS SPOKEN!!
>>566715476those gens are for the Horde and Sanko but we do take "donations" if you've got persons of note you want to be rid of, or just have some excess population you want shipped offI'll send gens of their stay >:3
>>566718510Gemini 3.5 at Google I/O. Then, the other companies will dump their slop. OAI and Anthropic don't really push the frontier anymore, they just respond to Google.
>>566718617what samplers and preset r u using?
Hello, Kazuma here. I need some testers for the upcoming Mequmin Suite v7. We are currently testing confiqurations for Deepseek v4 pro, GLM 5.1. and Gemini 3.1 pro or 3 flash.Before you iump in, please make sure vou can agree to a few ground rules:• You need to have the time to plav out an RP for at least 70 messages before dropping your feedback• Please only use the models listed above during the test.• I am lookina for actual, detailed feedback. A simple "yes" or "it works" won't help much• If vou don't have the time to commit to a proper RP session right now, please sit down.If vou are up for it and understand the rules, you can join the Discord server here: https://discord.gg/uz27DVPAOnce you are in the server, just ping kazumaoniisan and I will get vou added to the testing channel
>>566719360The cord preset obviously?
>>566718551Mediterranean, maybe 20-30%. More in urban areas, less in the periphery of the Roman Empire (but that's also getting towards the end of the iron age). 33% was like peak US Confederacy numbers.Out in e.g. Germanic areas, more like 5-10%. And the iron age lasted way longer, of course.Basically it's the difference between a "slave society" and a "society with slaves" - is the slavery a central part of the politics, economy etc. or is it just A Thing People Do?Also, of course, at some point you start bringing in serfs and whatnot and shit just starts to get blurry.
>>566719596this is the warring states general, sir
>>566719596does she have a naginata?
DS4 is a constant ping pong game of>Wow, a good reply>Swipe for variety>Holy fucking dogshitaaaaaa
>>566719596You will NEVER be Freaky Frankenstein.
>>566719682fuck you nigger hope you get a circumcision or already have one
>>566719596hello saar pls do the needful and redeem me opus i am good brahmin
>>566719596just post it as a beta and allow anonymous feedback I'm not joining your retarded discord for a scuffed preset
>>566719858At least it's cheap enough that swipes are expendable, I guess? I feel like it's fine for low-effort, high-filter RPs where you're fine with things being a bit sloppy, but anything with a mildly more complicated scenario (or pre-established character) would be better done with a smarter model.Seriously, though, the advantages of deepseek compared to SOTA models is that it's dirt cheap, widely available, and doesn't need to be jailbroken. If those three aren't an issue (e.g. you're Mr. Moneybags or in a private proxy, and have a good JB for your model of choice) then obviously deepseek's going to be a miss.No, the real questions are shit like "is V4 better than V3/R1?" and "Is V4 better than GLM?", and honestly I don't have any answers there.
>>566718920 i'm not in the event but it certainly sounds like you're having fun >:3
>testing my general beta card>it doesn't write like I wrote in my emailsFUCK YOU!!!!!!
>>566720312This is why you include your correspondence in a lorebook, anon....I need to trim mine. It's 12k tokens at this point.
>>566719596i doubt you're reading replies, but gemini 3.1 genuinely is not worth wasting your time testing onbig G admitted itself that it's basically a failed model, it's shit at everything to the extent that the deprecated 3.0 series enormously outperforms it on every front (which is still available and will be for awhile, but only through aistudio keys im pretty sure)3.5 soon(tm) tho
>>566720275>"Is V4 better than GLM?"Not really. GLM has a problem with thinking circles sometimes and what some would call 'reddit humor'. But otherwise it's alright. I only ever have problems with it at like 60k token history in, DS4 stars shitting itself at 20k
>>566720392>This is why you include your correspondence in a lorebook, anon.ohhh....
>>566720674How soon we've forgotten example dialogue...Modern models have made us fat and lazy......
>>566720879I'm not lazy wtf
>>566679462I think each of my cards for this scenario will end up with around this many tokens.
Has anyone found their prose output vastly improving by not using complicated presets? I stuck with Freaky Frankenstein for about a month (from the basic 4.0 to the currently-labeled Max+) but I found the prose to be consistently sloppy and formulaic; then, after installing the DND RPGTracker I decided to just use the prompt that ships with that and I've found GLM 5.1 and DS4 Pro to be vastly more creative and compelling. Pic unrelated
This has nothing to do with this event and everything to do with the previous event but I wanted to share this anyway.
>>566721321>neither one pregnantNot canon.
>>566718915i don't use FF but this guy is such a chad
>>566721242yes I think a lot of people figured this out way back in the claude 2.1/neofurbo days, the best preset is prose instructions under 5 paragraphs. user/assistant first messages can also be highly effective (though recent claudes seem to be trained to resist them, they still work well on other model families)
>>566721242If you don't need a JB the Default ST prompt with some style instructions works fine for most use cases.
>>566721242The thing with presets is that they're often made for a specific person's tastes to do specific things.So, for example, a preset might go incredibly hard on the jailbreaking aspect because it's made for hardcore baby-raping smut, but if you then try to go for a more vanilla slowburn RP you'll find that all those jailbreaking tokens poison your context. This is when you'll want to toggle them on/off, of course... except often the jailbreaks are all-or-nothing, so if you want regular old two consenting adults missionary you'll find it freakifying your girl.On the other hand, presets are also there to prompt the models for specific writing styles and sometimes, frankly, the person writing the preset has a different idea of what good RP looks like than I do.How often will you see "write in the style of [AUTHOR]", and wonder why exactly it's that author and what that instruction actually meaningfully does?How often do you see shit like "this is a roleplay between you, playing {{char}}, and the user, playing {{user}}"?How often do you see shit like "write in the style of AO3", or prompts to write informally, possibly with a bit of an otaku twist in there?The best preset is the one where you take one you somewhat like and then start slowly rewriting it to your own tastes, bit by bit.
>>566721242knickknack is all you needWrite as {{char}} only; do not speak for or presume {{user}}'s actions or thoughts. All narration is to be written in limited third person from {{char}}'s perspective in the way {{char}} would say it; carefully study {{char}}'s personality to achieve this. Play with narration and writing style. Be extremely creative in how you choose to interpret {{char}}'s speech and narrative style!
piggybacking off this discussion on slop-prose, is it true that using second-person will consistently degrade the output into wattpad fanfiction since that's what most second-person literature ('literature') is based off of? are my dreams of literary second-person rp dead and should i swap over to first-person or third-person?
>>566722173This is only good for CAI style chats tho, it's no longer 2020
>>566722298nah it still slaps
>>566722173You'll want some tenses defined in there, probably, and maybe also some notes on formatting in some cases (e.g. I much prefer just regular text over *action* speech), since that'll end up imitating the greeting real hard.Also, of course, for a more filtered model you'll want a jailbreak. Irrelevant for DSV4 etc., but yeah.Also also, as someone who occasionally uses scenario cards: your prompt style is the reason people have to write "{{char}} is not a character but a scenario" at the beginning of their defs and I fucking hate that. But I also don't know how to fix it without just tossing out that entire prompt and writing a scenario-specific alternative you can toggle to.
>>566722234Somewhat. Writing the Bitcher_________ in third person and putting strict author style tags (who also wrote in third person) makes it write exactly like them. Removes almost all isms and —. Of course this makes it hard to coom to as now instead of saying (You) plap X it says {{user}} plaps X
omfg i just realized james sunderland is actually already dead and stuck in purgatory in sh2
>>566722505>maybe also some notes on formatting in some cases (e.g. I much prefer just regular text over *action* speech)I don't like having those in the prompt because as the RP goes on and the formatting is established, it becomes unnecessary tokens. It's much easier to simply remove asterisks from the bot in question. Same for tenses, adapt the greeting to whatever tense you want. The actual prompt itself should be as minimal as possible. If there's prose drift you can occasionally turn on low-depth prompts to shift the writing style, but most of the time, the prompt should get out of the way once the RP is rolling.
>>566721242>I stuck with Freaky Frankensteinanon................
>>566721321my wife on the right
>>566704564>>566705701Seems like it really was a censorship thing but unrelated to caching. Opus thinks that longform documents with leaders gets cutoff automatically on its end, probably due to the chinese trying to distill the model. Again, the fucker still charge you anyway.
>>566722234The problem with second-person prose (as well as first-person perspective prose directed at you, internet RP style) is that it just... doesn't exist in literature.First-person prose? Yeah, sure, that's call over the place. "Call me Ishmael." Lots of novels written from the perspective of a character through their eyes.Third-person? That shit's standard. Even most first-person prose ends up having third-person stuff at times, as the first person ends up serving as an observer to whatever scene.But second-person perspective? That shit's only ever printed in CYOA books, I think, and maybe in more conversational nonfiction books. So all the vectors are going to be running on internet data for the most part, which means that you fall deep into the grimiest pits of amateur writing.The one saving grace is that models are RLHF'd into first+second person conversational by default: I am an assistant, you are a human user, how may I help you?But, of course, maybe those aren't vectors you want to tap into either.
>>566720487so at those token counts do you summarize and go from there?>566719596great there's two of them, at least megumin is cute>566719862>566721375at this point make him a card, use the preset, and suck him off
>>566722234if on a winter's night a traveler and bright lights big city are good books but hardly enough to get good prose out of consistentlyfuggadaboutit
>>566722812On the one hand yes, absolutely.On the other hand, manually going through a bot's defs and greeting to change it all to third person past tense no-markdown-except-emphasis can be a real mood-killer and most often just makes me sigh and go to a different bot instead.
>>566723259>so at those token counts do you summarize and go from there?Depends on the card, I usually just use multi-char adventure-ish cards whenever I get to the big tokens, in which case I just treat each chat like an 'arc' or separate adventure and aim to finish it within that limit.
>>566723406ask the llm to do it for you (use a cheap one)
>>566722234nobody knows everything is subjective to the point that the mood you’re in impacts how good something is do what you want
i tried out that freaking fingledingle preset for shits and giggles and it spend 5 minutes hallucinating in reasoning before giving me a response worse than prompting the model "me {{user}} you {{char}}" with thinking off
>>566723259>single arrowoi m8! you skimpin' out on the (You)'s?!
someone at work stole my yogurt and nobody wants to fess up to doing it. i’m starting to understand why mass shooters do what they do
>>566724005okay but when you do it please target billionaires and actually make a difference, thanks.
most presets are placebosonly retarded schizophrenic presets change output in any significant way
>>566724363>most presets are placebosdisagreeit's more accurate to say that most presets are actively and observably harmful to the average user's output due to how many of them are shitmountains of nonsense
>>566724005How could the jews do this?
>>566724510literally every reddit preset is, and I quote>shitmountains of nonsensei'm seriously asking myself how they're not going absolutely crazy over there
>>566724727i think evening truth is a good preset
>>566722173unironically all u need
>>566724842link it so we can laugh at it together
Context with 5-6 messages is all you need.
>>566724995https://rentry.org/Evening-Truth-GLM51-base
>>566725197this is significantly less sloppy than I have anticipatedAHAHAHA, YOU'RE SERIOUSLY USING THIS?
>>566722173the be creative part is detrimental to some models nowadays.some models just try too hard when they're told to be "creative".That said, I don't really mind swiping for a decent responses.
>found why DS4 was going schizo >it was this piece of shit in my prompts "In the next reply, you must focus on immersive character role-playing"
has anyone else use the fatbody dnd framework? i think it's quite incredible but i don't know why the author mish-mashed so many homebrew mechanics or divergences from RAW 5E (like lowering DC checks or re-implementing fortitude, reflex, and will saves from prior editions or most egregiously using this weird NPC stat block generation system instead of just consulting 5E monster manual and creature creation rules) its somewhat inexplicable
>>566725404yeah my thoughts exactlyit's somewhat decent and non-bloatedas jb doe? 100% you'll get refusals
>>566725609so true. actually all you need is just> Write as {{char}} only; do not speak for or presume {{user}}'s actions or thoughts, All narration is to be written in limited third person from {{char}}'s perspective in the way {{char}} would say it; carefully study {{char}}'s personality to achieve this
all you need is just>be {{char}}
>>566721321my wife on the left
>>566724727Marinara's Spaghetti Recipe, as memed as it was and as spooky as it looks when you all the toggles, is... actually weirdly light-weight and stays out of your way for the most part? It's probably a good starting point for making your own custom preset, I think, if only because it doesn't have any particular flavor to begin with.>https://github.com/SpicyMarinara/SillyTavern-Settings/blob/main/Marinara's%20Essentials/Preset/Marinara's%20Spaghetti%20Recipe.json
>>566725727>as jb doe? 100% you'll get refusalsgood thing GODSEEK needs no gwailo jb
DS4 sticking too much to instructions actually kind of pisses me off, desu
>>566726016yeah deepseek v4 is pretty good and doesn't give a shit about what you're doinggood swipe variety, too
>>566726173>two weeks ago>"instruction following is all you need in a model, that's why opus 4.7 is the best!">now>"DS4 sticking too much to instructions actually kind of pisses me off, desu"
>>566726304>goomba fallacy
>>566726304Adhering strictly to instructions always pissed me off, I want my model to adapt and treat the Main Prompts like suggestions to follow unless I go 'HARD RULE RETARD CLANKER FOLLOW THIS'For example, I am currently doing OOC shit and DS4 keeps trying to get me back to the actual RP, stupid piece of shit we're done when we say we're done
i miss 3pus
>>566726304niggers here don't chat or experiment much with llmsthey literally apply the same preset from opus into deepseek, or vice-versa, then complain model a or b is slopsometimes they work (if they're generic), but you always have to modify them a bitdeepseek for example is extremely autistic about the last part of the prompt, anything you say at the end gets followed to a Tvery fun to play around with prefills
>>566679462how are you all handling diplomacy after contact info has been shared betwen hostie and makies?
>>566726706dick pics
>>566726423maybe put optional stuff into user prompts then?? of course system prompts are being treated as god commands, like wtf do you expect?>>566726656>prefillshaven't tested them on dipsy yet, do you have examples?
>{{char}} is {{user}}
>"Fetch my seal, would you? And the good brush, not the one you chewed on last winter."HEY WTF I DIDN'T DO THAT
making a faq is hard im too dumb to figure out what questions people might have
Is the anon with this repo still active here? https://github.com/ayofreaky/local-chubThis is a Chub scraper that then rehosts the models locally. It's been years since it was touched but still sort of works... but needs some tweaks. Given chub's removing itself from geographies anons may want to use it to scrape their own local chub repo.
>>566726810>like wtf do you expect?It to act like other LLMs before it? GLM had no problems with that.
>>566726948nibbles...
>>566725995marinaras isn't my main preset but it's the only reddit preset I have in my ST
>2 out of 3 proxies i used for months just died>i'm only left with deepseek and fucking xiaolongshould i even bother testing the latter? has anyone here messed with it?
>>566726983Yeah, I need to delete that image. I must have been screwing around with prompts and lost track of it.
>>566726975then use glm?? i don't understand what the issue is.>use different model>WTF?? WHY IS IT ACTING DIFFERENTLY??
>>566726810just been trying retarded stuff like opening a <think> and writing a bunch of stupid stuff about what i wants to do each scene, or not wanting to think at all because it's tired, or thinking it's stuck inside a spaceship with low computing power so it doesn't chomp up tokensit's pretty cute to see how the cot evolves around those thingsprefill stronksad was the day reading it was getting removed from claude
>>566727243oo yeah that sounds fun. i'll try some of that later on.claude kinda messed me up, by removing prefill it almost made me forget it's still an option on other models.
>>566711387Yeah this is basically what I envisioned, nice. t. steppe makie
>>566711387>White onisThose are just the gay horned people from Dragon Age then baka.
i'm thinking i might just do stats for my military strength, what are a good set of stats to represent this?
>>566712848Nah they got horns and the knife ears, I just didnt wanna do generic red/blue skinned Onis. They are born with bright skin but it dulls as they age into a more normal skin tone, their horn color is a good way of telling if she is a blue or a red Oni. Basically I realize now that I re made touhou Onis from first principles.
>>566679462>>566727783I've been using >>566636449 as a reference, I imagine they're one of the stronger powers in the country so buff/debuff yourself accordingly
>>566727783dominions 6>>566727925that guy has been using dominions 6 as inspirationPLAY ILLWINTER GAMES' DOMINIONS 6 OR THEIR CRITICALLY ACCLAIMED CONQUEST OF ELYSIUM 5
>>566725720How much vibe coded is this on the scale from 1 to Marinara Tavern or whatever?
>>566727783The underwater kingdom's a bit overkill in detail, imho. I just looked up historical troop numbers from the sengoku period, stole them wholesale, and mostly left it at that.That being said, yeah, compare yourself to the underwater army's numbers as well as the pigs to see if your army has any chance at the shogunate by itself.>https://chub.ai/characters/arroe/inoshishi-akuto-rengo-of-aishiji-9d3130c5b4fb(Lorebook version:)>https://chub.ai/lorebooks/arroe/inoshishi-akuto-rengo-of-aishiji-lorebook-edition-863ce96ed3d8
unironically why isn't there a tavern/eramaker hybrid yet?
>>566728740what's eramaker
>>566679462I've been doing nothing so far and when i started writing my general i realized how deep in shit i was. i chose everything wrong and now it doesnt match the character anymore and idk what to do
>>566728807kill yourself newfaggot /v/ermin
>>566728740someone should do it with the javascript era clone the chinese made
>>566728807newfag-kun...
>>566728836>chose everything wrong and now it doesnt match the character anymorei... what? then choose differently? what's the problem, anon?
>>566728907>>566728951sorry i don't know every hyperspecific minute niche thing ever. now tell me how many recruitables MA ermor has. can't? abululululu /v/ newfaggot
>>566728836That's basically why I wrote my general before we even got our assigned states cause I was worried it wouldn't fit and have been tweaking her since. In your case just switch things up anyways, there's no point to continue if you aren't having fun.
>>5667291010 recruitables dipshit unless youre gonna start calling commanders recruitables
>>566728973It doesnt match the character i envisioned and i started testing her with the letters i wrote in-character and im starting to notice: no wtf she wouldnt say or do that / wouldnt ally with certain state>>566729137>In your case just switch things up anyways, there's no point to continue if you aren't having fun.im gonna have to tweak things a lot... it doesnt even match the description i gave in the rentry. kms.
>>566728740i keep wanting to make an era-esque llm frontend but I'm so fucking lazy. it really shouldn't be that hard with any of the current coding agents
i still haven't decided yet whether to go full prosekek or experiment a bit with my general
>>566729101>cant even google>ablublublu your kind have ruined this entire website. go lurk on /jp/ for ten years
hmm yeah thats basically everything let me go release it before i start being stupid again
>>566728946>javascript era clonedoes it actually load existing era games?there's a multi-threaded rust rewrite of emuera but it's been abandoned
aicg has become so bad at making cards. there's too much focus on trying to flex via long prose or prose in general or generating a million images for every greeting or adding a shitty little stat box over improving how the actual card plays. how annoying
>>566729863this bait would have worked better a year or two ago when people actually posted cards here
>>566729824I think so, I remember seeing a port of one of the older era games to it but most of the focus has been on eraUmahttps://gitgud.io/umaera/engine/era-electron
>>566729601that's basically what i've been wanting to make, more or lessit's been a few months and it's still in the planning stage because i have no fucking idea where to start, ideally it should be multiplatform (more importantly it should run on jewdroid and ios because uemuera can't run shit anymore)
>>566729584smart anonanyways that era stuff looks interesting. a shame its fans are assholes
>>566679239What's the current meta with text gen?Is local still shit?
>gets called a newfag twice on 4chan in 2026>immediately cries "shame */jp/ staple*'s fans are asshole"go back
>>566730385Opus 4.6 if richDeepseek 4 is you can afford $10-20/monthLocal or baby models if poorfag
>/jp/ /jp/ /jp/ /jp/anon this is /vg/, also the only worthwhile thread on /jp/ is /ona/
>>566730385>robot>black arms so it looks like she's wearing elbow glovesnew fetish acquired...
>>566730540Same with her thighs hnnnnnggg
>>566715948koomi mogs
>>566729998extremely interestinghow do i uhhhow the fuck do i run this?
Era is great but this isn't about the Touhou Gameplay Thread because nobody plays the mainline games, not even /jp/
>>566731210there's an english translation of the game that uses it but thats about as much as i can helphttps://gitgud.io/era-games/eraumamaybe ask around in the era thread of anyone has tips?
>>566730540>>566730882she's the heroine from my dystopian robot girlfriend, the creator has really good taste in robogirl aesthetics. her arms/legs are modular and you initially meet her as a nugget.
can the only state that i really care of please answer me
just ordered some burgers
>>566731549>vaguepost beggingGod you underages are such dummies
>ordered burgersDo burgerclapistanis really?
>>566731684Over the last few days I have realized maybe more than a few makers are annoying as shit when they're able to get away with it. The event anchor only exists to contain what wasn't strong enough to require containment before
I'm going to erotically roleplay with anime children and nobody can stop me >:3
>>566731949yeah we dont have halal snackpacks over here
>/whinehours/>>/g/aicg/
>>566731992this a lot of botmakies want to be creatives or have community/get attention but this is the only thing they are halfway decent at (maybe). it shows
>>566732096Inshallah one day you will experience the joy of simply ordering your wife to make and deliver food to you
>>566732124>>>/soc/
>>566732124'vke
>>566732234how many weeks do you guess til we're there
>>566715948low tier bait
>>566728021there's no reason to buy dom6 just to play singleplayer and learn illwinter's lore and style, dom5 is finealso CoE is trash
>>566732181I meant more that the posts mentioning emails before the anchor was put up weren't bait and that's just how many makers areRemember, a botmaker is still a poster in the general, one of your favorites could be the same anon who pisses you off all the time, it's 4chan at the end of the day, don't forget why users come here
>>566732826>why users come hereto shitpost!!!! :D
>>566727084the nai model? pretty sure its just a glm finetune so its not worth your time
Sometimes it feels like models have worse outputs if you don't give them a lot of tokens
>>566732826>why users come hereto foxpost!!!! :D
>>566731362i would love to meet the genius who linked to a password-protected archive on that page
>>566732826LEGIO AETERNA VICTRIX!
>>566732826i look at some makies and really ask myself how they even ended up on this site. there's servers and everything but some chose to join the site that chases off newfags and contains threads where every second post contains slurs. like you think of someone and remember they willingly joined the site notorious for the ywnbaw copypasta and everything about /pol/. the origin of kyutz is a total mystery
ive been here all summer lieking mudkipz and doing barrel rolls ROFL LMAO XD
>>566727925>I imagine they're one of the stronger powersDepends on what you mean by "strong." Ultimately population is power and the ones that seem to have the most (at least 500,000+ per) are:>Forest>Woodland Port>Forested Hills>Grasslands>Wildgrowth>maybe Post-Volcanic HillsI reckon Aishiji has a total population of around 6 million?
>>566732181and yet, makies make some posters feel so inferior, they have to come here and make up lies about them every day
>opus 4.7 keeps giving my general glovesI'm going to kill claude.
>>566734853y u lie about use opus u poor dalit bloody bastard?
>>566734664no one here "feels inferior" to a botmaker
>>566732274please sperg out and get banned again
>>566679239In the far east lands of Ashitwoji lives a pathetic horseboy from a tribe of cool and awesome horse boys.Utilizes js-slash-runner for a VN-style frontend.https://uraurabots.neocities.org/page1#takeohttps://botbooru.com/q/85l6chorses don't stop they keep goingAlso, a VN template bot that explains how to use my VN frontend for your own bots. No need to credit, Claude did all the coding.https://uraurabots.neocities.org/page1#vn_template
>>566716835>>566716929ok i released it my final message goodb ye
>>566735749>https://botbooru.com/hmmmm
>>566736135my chub got banned and i need some way to numberfag okay..........
>>566735201yes, that's why you feel the need to whine and scream about how they can't do anything else without actually knowing any of them
Yeah, I can't use DS4 with multi-char cards, it's so joever.
>>566735749hmm horse boypussy, tempting
does anyone actually rp past 10k tokens
>>566736527this makes me wonder how different horse anus looks to human anusHEY HEY PONY FUCKERS WHAT DOES HORSE ANUS LOOK LIKE
>>566679462Which state would you say is the most vulnerable to the warp staff? Which state falls apart when their leader bites it?
>>566736562
>>566736321Botbooru is very weak for numberfagging. My most downloaded card on that website has 22 downloads, and the most favorited was 3.Even my lowest performing cards on chub get to at least 60+.
>>566729594Maybe the previous general who wrote all those letters died or was otherwise incapacitated, and the new general took over (with the new description etc.) and is now saddled with all those alliances she wouldn't have made herself?You could even use the Hostie Mailing List to blast the news of the succession across the country, if you want.Obviously this strategy won't work with all ideas, though. Sometimes you want someone experienced at the job and has been there for a while.
>>566736652This image I saved comes in handy more often than I'd like to admit.
>>566736961i mean yeah the most downloaded bot has only 300 downloads
>>566737171thanksi will now start a horseboy brothel and guillotine the dick off my enemies
>>566737116....can I steal your idea?
>>566734645Forested hills has a population of 31.3 million, but luckily this isn't a democracy and inchlings would probably have a 1/100th compromise anyhow."Population is power" only really counts when you're not 1/50th as tall, take up 1/2500th the area per individual, and mass in at 1/125,000th an "average" 5ft/150cm human. (Sorry, what do you mean the average height was closer to 160cm?)
>>566738158Oh right. Well I guess 50 or 100 inchlings count as one "person"
>>566737952My IP and Patent guy says no. It belongs to me now.
*fills a cup with my cum and dumps a dozen inchlings in it*Enjoy your swim and getting pregnant
>>566738369Yeah I'm basically just multiplying numbers by 100x on suggestions of some anons, and even then in my test RPs Oda's all "well, good thing we've got all this nontraditional warfare because we'd fucking lose in a pitched battle!"Even with the mass levy seed I've planted in the bot, and its ten-millions-strong peasant army, that mostly just means that the opposing army gets to play Dynasty Warriors or reenact the intro scene of Fellowship of the Ring with Sauron smoking all those dudes.
>>566738651I don't want to see inchlings die actually
>>566738651Yeah me neither >>566738746
>>566738746Unfortunately this isn't the Peaceful States of Aishiji, anon.
>>566738746this is WAR nigga people are gonna DIE nigga that means the INCHLINGS TOO nigga
>>566735201taocutie and astrocutie seethers exist
>>566734645After looking at the traits and considering why Merovingia would settle there (instead of one of the port provinces) I decided to treat the wildgrowth as a recent(ish) development that had an almost apocalyptic effect on the province, causing people to abandon overgrown towns and cities to live in the jungle in small bands or leave the region entirelySo the native population is probably lower than average, but the foreign settlers make up for that somewhat
>>566738484pretty please
trap dungeon card is mostly done but needs a liddle bit more polish, will post next threadwhat kind of fetish/traps/curses would you want to see in this sort of scenario? (chances are they're probably already in the lorebook)https://poal.me/a9igcy
>>566738651>inchling army performance be like:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yMnjrJl0b7w
>>566738553Thanks, now the steppe knows what to do with them.
>>566738553Why would you do this???https://files.catbox.moe/ug8qx8.png
>>566739641I'm assuming you're going by the classical definition of traps for this, rather than the astolfo kind. If so, I definitely want some kind of kemonomimi TF trap(s) in there, and some size-changing ones.
>>566740739I feel so fucking bad for the inchlings bros, imagine being that one unlucky soldier who just gets forgotten about amidst the population of China's equivalent. There are just so many bad ways you go can go man
>>566738158literal insect population
>>566734480TRVKENVKE but to answer your question they unironically come from discord
>kemonomimi and sizeaicg only has two fetishes
>>566741903i hope you get banned again it would be funny
>>566740989>and some size-changing ones.these are surprisingly difficult to implement when characters already have predefined height/spatial values (the LLM is completely incapable of spatial visualization in most events), but i can try. dedicated size-stuff is a lot like vore where it needs like ~900 tokens of "this is how it works you fuckass robot" explanation to make it feel a little bit authentic
>>566741919there's horse anus in this very thread anon
>>566741919No way. Only one of my event bots is kemonomimi and I have never made a sizebot. My theme this time is shimaidon/oyakodon, alongside petplay.
guys...i think i might have to add example chats to my bot
>>566742137fair enough. And yeah I know what you mean, These things are retarded when it comes to height/space.
>>566741919the former isn't even a fetish, it's a fetish modifier
>>566741919>kemonomimi is this even a fetish this is just a preference
>>566742423the line between fetish and preference is thin and mostly only appears when someone has a soapbox to stand on those with obvious fetishes for tall buff men will claim it’s a preference and that men who enjoy big tits have a fetish to give an example
technically the definition of fetish is that you can't enjoy anything without it (so it HAS to have hyper tits and you can't enjoy anything that doesn't) and a preference is just you prefer hyper tits but you can fap to flatties or medium girlsa kink is just any non-standard arousal vectorobviously no one actually cares so they're just all used the same way
>>566742995based autismo anon
>>566743140i wish i had autism then i could've joined the warring states event...
>Checking DS4 presets>See Weep{Engagement}Decide what to include in your response depending on Human's engagement level.Human is engaged if {{user}} is:- in the middle of a conversation,- interacting with objects or characters present,- implementing own ideas.Human is unengaged if {{user}} is:- repeating similar prompts,- visibly bored or confused,- looking around or asking for ideas.If human is engaged, maintain absolute narrative focus. Continue the situation mentioning only what is directly related to the ongoing events.If human is unengaged, shake things up by introducing something new, or having a character do or say something unexpected or intriguing.What is this schizo shit
>>566743302I have good news, since you're here than that means you're already autistic.
>>566743560oh good i'll be expecting my autism creature plushie by next friday
>>566743667it shall be done. you still have to pay for the shipping, by the way.
>>566743140>knowing definitions is autism god help the zoomers
>>566743913dont worry thats what my amex platinum card (save up to 25% on every order from participating retailers) is for
>>566679462>when you attacked yesterday and still no reply
>>566744043*blocks your path*
>>566744037Knowing definitions isn't autism; feeling that you have to interject with the definition when someone online uses it in a way that's technically incorrect but alright in common usage, however...
>>566744317ewwww i hope these arent your fingers fucking gross
>>566744317AIEEEEEE *explodes*
>>566744064wagies should be banned from events
>>566744064I know that some anons were busy with j*bs and were coming back to the event on Thursday-Friday, so it could be that it's one of them.Or, if you're still interacting via hostie, it could just be time delay. Or, possibly, that they're just unsure what to do. Maybe you're talking to the anon upthread who's thinking about redoing their general entirely because they wouldn't have done what they've done.
>>566744518rotating my apples to envision every general having a shitty retail job during the weekdaysoh i don't like that
>dirty cuticles >sweaty hands as evident by the stains on the card>pink pig skin >yellowed nails genuinely foul and ugly
Is this 4chan's worst general?
Didn't know we had nails specialists here
gilfs are better than milfs
>>566745109no /dft/ is worse
Didn't even properly block out the information since there's a bit of transparency.
>>566745262what used to be gilf is milf now due to demographic changes
>>566745109My experience with the occasional old single player games generals, /vg/-/feg/,/biz/-/smg/, and /tg/-/40kg/ tells me it's not even in the top ten.
>>56673696122 downloads is better than 0, with how chub is going you won't even be able to see most bots for being too spicy
>numberfagging in 2026dead hobby
>>566746520>t. bitter irrelevantfag
>>566745262make some then
>>566747213if i could write interesting characters then i would but im shit at it
jesus christ that was a lot of letters to write
>>566747452stop being shit at it
>>566747606ill try just for you anon
>>566747894k thanks
>>566747524Dear Anonymous,You child of a mangy dog. May wisdom ever elude you.Sincerely, Me
>>566692215>>566699316Silly question for the silly goy: why isn't all that being added to his gallery?The crops and censors make sense, outside of the usual tease factor, here because of the rules, but the card on chub already has like 30+ images of him in all 50 shades of erotic and, based on your recent activity, it seems like it's due for an update.That is unless that's for when we get a 3.0 with 10 extra greetings.
At the center of the lake rises the Sump-Mother, an enormous, multi-breasted ooze-beast with dozens of writhing, dripping tentacles. The beast lets out a low, wet roar that sounds like a thousand toilets flushing at once.
>>566721321damn, 4 unique choco elves in one picture, that's crazy what slopgen can do nowadays
>>566736519it's doing fine with a few that I tried, but instead I can't get it to work with any cards that have special 'tism features baked in (trackers, stat boxes etc.)doesn't give me a lot of confidence in it being able to handle any long plots due to that
>>566748305>why isn't all that being added to his gallery?Because it would be kind of obscene to turn xer page into some kind of giant gallery and I remain unused to releasing an artist cg set equivalent for a fxcking chatbot.
>>566746848get his ass
>>566748342OK, nevermind, I'm back on the mushroom train, glory to the sump-mother
>>566736883What in the actual fuck is this. Can we get logs?
>>566749610I don't want logs of that man
>>566749010Could you just put them on a catbox folder and link it in the bot instead? I like this bot, I'd like to play with it again, if you ever remake it into a different setting/context.
>>566749959Why? You're not actually jerking off to these pictures are you, homo?
>>566749010>it would be kind of obscene to turn xer page into some kind of giant gallerybut it already is that, though I guess chub's UI for that is kinda ass if you want to include like a 100 images - still I expected some physical limit of the site to be the reason or it being a pita to add more>I remain unused to releasing an artist cg set equivalent for a fxcking chatbotlogical, few do it and some even hide it in the lorebook for the curious readers to find, and it may create an expectation of the same treatment for every bot by the same makie, which might be a lot of extra work to cater tostill, here it seems like a lot of images exist already and some of them were put in there either at release or afterwards and (some of them) can't be posted here fully plus there seems to be people who'd want to themunless you just don't want to share (any more of) your 'waifu' with the unwashed masses
>>566750083The ancients have determined it and left it in writing. It shall only be considered gay if, and only if, the balls are touching.
>>566730385Based dystopian robot girlfriend ( ﾉ^ω^)ﾉ
>wondering why sonnet outputs are better than usual today>check my connection profile>opusthere should be a way to recycle llm usage
>>566750279Okay goy, I will be mindful of my random recent gens of Remille and collect them into a gallery when I'm not building drones to destroy Ukraine.
>>566750873>collect them into a galleryBased.>building drones to destroy Ukraine.Dangerously based.
>>566749610I posted some a month ago It's basically what happens when you tell Opus to ultrathink everything and {{user}}'s turbo autism
>>566750083nta, but no, same as most 2D material and 99,99% of the billions of burned tokens and yet, they might be a good inspiration for deep and impactful ways to take this brave manly male 's story
>>566734480Reddit sounds like an echo chamber full of self-righteous prudes (ヽ´ω`)And here I see occasional off-topic stuffs that makes me giggle ( ﾉ^ω^)ﾉAnd people do give advice here, just need to dig through for them (*´･ω･)
>>566750873homologically ordered?
>>566679462Real talk, how many states have magic? We need to know this, it might be a foreign concept.
>>566734480>i look at some makies and really ask myself how they even ended up on this siteThe answer is simple: they wouldn't stand out anywhere else. That's what they have to gain. That's why they made a botmakie-only thread.
>>566752225What is wrong with you? This is an anonymous imageboard. The purpose of coming here is to exchange ideas and comments where you are judged solely on the content of your post. If you want to namefag, go back to rebbit.
>the schizo is still samefagging
>>566734480>the origin of (insert namefag here)attention seeking, that's it
>>566752972do you see samefagging everywhere because that’s what you do
>>566753156you aren't subtle lil' bro
>>566751275>And people do give advice here, just need to dig through for them please work on your formatting...
So this is the power of prefilling Deepseek...
>>566752225holy maximum trvke botniggers are pathetic
niggas think theyre tough until I tell them I eat all the bedbugs I find on me
>>566754543what do they taste like
>>566755341Salty almonds but squishy
How's deepsneed 4
>>566756030mogged by glm/k2.6
>>566756030Schizo bitch.
>Reading the thinking>See the But Wait:I want to kill myself.
>>566757138>filtered by isms in the thinkingNever ever going to make it.
>>566756030just use opus cuckie
>>566751641Off the top of my head, and double-checking the rentry?>Woodland Port (leader is a wizard)>Wildgrowth (healing & nature magic)>Underwater Coral Reef (combat wizards in that one infosheet iirc)>Steppe (mana-absorbing plant)>Post-Volcanic Hills (wild magic etc.)>Mesa (magical anomalies)>Forested Hills (very technically has one (1) ornery wizard at the bottom of a dungeon)There might be more, and I dunno how many of those are actually harnessing their magic rather than just having it be a local problem or background lore.
>>566757882I didn't have magic in mindcwhen zi designed my state or general but after seeing the coral reef info sheet and some of the other generals (like the disir) I'm going to throw in a few lines about how my people use magic in and out of combat
>>566679462Genning a city is so cancer.
>>566758676...Come think of it, I basically just included the labyrinth dungeon with a shrug because "hey, why not, that's a funny little detail", but I guess maybe it'd make sense to drown the place in inchlings. The yokai can't eat all of us!
>>566758846"city, faceless crowd" doesn't do it for you?Honestly, if you just need a background then you can do worse than just taking a photo from google images and running it through a filter.
>>566759153>taking a photo from google images and running it through a filterI might do that, actually. I'm trying to get an aerial overview so that I can use it as reference for future gens.
>>566757882Desert does to btw. Source: I am desert
>>566680986Kill yourself.
>>566679903Create another alt account, but this time, futa with no balls.Did you know? I download and use many of your bots, but I remove the balls myself. So tiresome...Thanks for the base cards, at least.
>>566759930look out, we got some kinda futa nazi over here
is there any reason to get into writing/art as a whole now that even cheap llms are at old SOTA model tier
>>566760603yes. because you enjoy it.
>>566760634no such thing
>>566760603its fun
>>566760603Have you ever tried reading one of those AI-generated books out there? Yeah.Sure, there's lots of garbage human-written books as well, but I've yet to see an AI-written one (or even just a lengthy chatbot log!) that's any good.The old maxim about 99% of sci-fi being shit is now up to 99.9% or higher....Also, note that even without LLMs/local imagegen it's not like your average writer/artist is earning much to begin with. Arguably it was never worth getting into as a job, just as a hobby.
>>566760603like other anons said, it's fun
>>566757882It's not really magic and more of a bio-weapon. But yeah, there is.
>>566761032>(or even just a lengthy chatbot log!) that's any good.nta but why are you here then
What are the protips on summarize and continuing retardedly long threads>at message #182>standard reply length at 3-4 paragraphsI try not to notice, but the total characterization death is starting to get to me. The summary fails to either grab the small details, or adequately summarize their personalities. It's great for keeping the story coherent, but yeah.
What's the best way to make a card commit to yandere behaviour? Like, surely there's more to doing it right than just writing "yandere" in and calling it a day.
>>566761725do the summarization yourself + use lorebooks to gate specific concepts or moments
>>566761032This anon has the right idea. Nothing has changed. The best AI doesn't come close to the best human work but most work is shit regardless of who made it.You get into those industries out of passion or because you're the rare exception. AI has zero impact on the viability of those careers.
>>566761662Because shorter-form RPs are just fine and the interactivity of chatbots lowers your standards for everything else?One of the worst things you can ever do with your chats is to scroll back up and start rereading them. That's basically always been the case. You don't notice all the repetition and -isms when you wait half a minute per reply, but if you read ten at once then they'll punch you in the face.Consider also that e.g. Dune is roughly 141k tokens, and you generally wouldn't want your model to be working with that much context because you just know for a fact that half of it isn't real.
>>566761941Aieeeee that sounds like a lot of work!!
>>566761725In addition to what the other anon said, try summarizing per scene. Grab specific key quotes if you absolutely want them remembered, I guess, but yeah.Do it yourself because the AI knows fuck all about what's actually important.
>>566762103The real losers here are places like call centers or entry-level programming jobs, and the latter ones really hurt: LLMs can't really replace a senior programmer yet, but the reason you hire entry-level programmers is so that they can become senior ones!If you think videogames are poorly optimized now, wait until they're all vibecoded to hell and back.
>>566762221God man I notice the -isms instantly. It doesn't ruin it for me because I only expect chatbots to get me off and I'd certainly rate them above the average ERP weirdo on the internet but I don't know how people think they're GOOD at writing.Like man I fucking love that I can with almost no effort generate whatever degenerate scenario I want and indulge in it for hours. I fucking love AI. I make my cards, gen images for it, and put way too much time into it, but I would never, ever delude myself into thinking it's good at writing. Every time I see "white knuckles" or "folds close in" or "[emotion] with a hint of something more" man.
>>566757882Boreal Forest has magic. Source: I am Boreal Forest.
>>566761032>(or even just a lengthy chatbot log!) that's any goodTrvke. Every amateur fic I read out there just gets a quality dip whenever they use AI as a crutch. You can really tell when it's a human taking the wheel, because then it's actually fun to read.
>>566717950Does it? That's... weird. It shows just fine for me. I even logged out and checked again. (But when I log out 5 of them disappear for no reason). What the fuck is wrong with chub? Are you Euro by any chance?
>>566761032I do notice the isms, I still like doing long autismo scenario cards at times for fun still, I just don't take it seriously, because why should I
>>566763205I don't like using the word soul but there's something to be said about the quirks of a a fanfiction writer that's clearly not very good yet which you can't get out of a much more technically skilled AI. Like, when you can tell that it's a teenager writing with their metaphorical cock out that hasn't even seen enough pornography to approximate sex.
>>566763018>but I don't know how people think they're GOOD at writingmost people are barely literatethe "verbal IQ" you find here (much less somewhere like /lit/) is vastly higher than the average person, or average chatbot usertheir brains simply aren't good enough at pattern recognition to notice the isms
>>566761843I can literally add a single line that says that char is possessive and it can spiral from there. It's that easy.
Is it me or did the event successfully drive everyone back to /g/?
>>566764529we all moved to /chag/ and /waifu/ actually
>>566764529we're all in /vpcai/
>>566760603I think having drawing experience helps with image genning. I enjoy both!
>the "verbal IQ" you find here (much less somewhere like /lit/) is vastly higher than the average person, or average chatbot user
>>566764987>misunderstanding the Dunning–Kruger effect
>>566723521episodic roleplay is nice, outside of running the summary do you put some events that happened in a past roleplay into the defs going forward?>>566723969tantalizing innit? bots are the things we want to interact with and prompts/presets are how we'd like to go about it. you're effectively letting your tokens be used in a way another guy wanted them to be used IF you don't at least look over and modify your preset. it doesn't even have to be your own from scratch but don't just copy and paste one.>>566761843pick a flavor from picrel and get specific. I personally went with a stalker-isolating hybrid.
what about the snow moutains
whoever said nanobanana adheres to style no the fuck it doesnt
I think playing evil fempovs in low fantasy settings is my new thing.
>>566766148yeah I tell nanobanana to "gen a new image featuring this character in the style of this image" that I give it and it always just uses its default anime gen style
>>566766148learn2prompt
>>566765932>or where people value hand-written defs and greetings?They value it as a form of gatekeeping and nothing else.
>>566767093gatekeeping shitty content and shitty creators is important in any community
>>566766391i know right? its so gross
bro really said>gatekeeping shitty content and shitty creators is important in any communityon /vg/
snowniggers > forestniggers
>>566760603learning what good composition is has always mattered more than "using pencil good"most AI gen art sucks absolute chode because it has dogshit composition, access to creation does not equal understanding of quality
>>566767919is boreal forest snowniggers or forestniggers
>>566768125both
Has anyone tried AI smut writer? I've been looking for an online service I could use on my phone. The text so far seems pretty coherent
>>566768442anon...
>>566767318it's not even that, only non-English speakers, literal children and sub 80 iq subhumans get filtered by something as simple as handwriting a character description or introductory scene/aicg/ forgives a lot as long as some human effort has been put in
>>566767318>gatekeeping shitty content and shitty creators is important in any communityBut you aren't an artist. You just prompt an AI model. You exist because AI lowered the barrier of entry to create things. You're taking credit of an experience that's driven entirely by the AI model. AI is about scratching your own itch, so gatekeeping is not needed. You don't matter.
>>566768442>>566768552Please tell me if there's something better
>>566768679'vke
>>566768679sorry I make you feel so inferior, but no amount of cope will make what you say true
>>566768804>>566741903>>566754053>>566683945kill this underage poster with a dozen bricks
>>566768773Use Opus
>>566768828stfu botnigger
>>566768629Human effort has no correlation with how the AI writes. Handwriting doesn't lead to high-quality outputs. It's just cargo culting.
>>566768905great job you have quoted several people who have used the same word. go quote everyone using the now kekalek
>>566769054>prompting doesn't change outputok anon, it's time for bed
>>566769237he already got btfo'd on this at least hundred times, it's best to just let him be
>>566769054>Human effort has no correlation with how the AI writesgo find a card that's written in a particular way, such as Darla or Strelitzia or one of Enoch's cards, notice how the AI picks up on the writing style and writes that same way
>>566769237A preset overrides the writing style of the greeting. But a preset is never written in a way to lead by example. It just contains instructions. That hints at the writing quality of the prompt being irrelevant. If it was the other way around, we would be making presets by inserting book snippets.
>>566769541have the decency to link your estoteric mumbo jumbo if you're going to try and make a point with namedrops
I'm sorry.
>>566768029This is also the cliff that separates the basic proompter, who simply throws the prompts at the model and hopes for the best, from the one who instead uses all the various tools to create an image from a sketch, edit images, and so on.And then there's yet another cliff above that where people take the AI-generated image and further refine it themselves in Photoshop or the like... but there's definitely a point where you start to wonder why they didn't just draw it themselves.Honestly imagegen kind of lends itself to the argument that an artist will have it easier because they can just draw the damn thing they want instead of trying to find the magic prompt for it (which sometimes doesn't even exist in the training data) (damn you, Anima).If you're not picky with your images and their style and composition and exact details, imagegen is great! If you want actual image-to-image consistency, though, for something like an original character or place with a specific design... yeah, imagegen's gonna fuck you.
>>566760603honestly I can't draw for shit but sometimes I think about learning at least the basics so I can doodle in a notebook or something when I'm boredseems healthier for my brain than a lot of other things
>>566742158are you actually hpg?
>>566760603for starters nobody likes ai slop. doesn’t matter how pretty or impressive it is, or how much effort the proompter believes he put in, if its ai, nobody is interested and you will be subject to mockery
>>566756030its definitely solid but glm is better>is kimi better?kimi thinks too much for it to be responsive imo and turning it off diminishes the quality a little too much for my liking so i have it a bit below dsv4
>>566769895It's weird how much the AI discussion ignores the inbetween space of real trained artists using AI for efficiency purposes between "people who think AI is magic and will solve all the world's problems" and "people who think AI is the devil that'll destroy us all."
>>566770323if that was true then coders, artists, writers, etc wouldn't be getting laid off in favor of ai
>>566770563>the inbetween space of real trained artists using AI for efficiency purposesthey don't exist besides that one csm femboy poster
>>566770563>ignores the inbetween space of real trained artists using AI for efficiency purposespeople aren’t ignoring it in artist spaces it’s just seen as fucked up because to them ai is a theft machine. they don’t care if it makes things speedier because it’s seen as cheating as technically no artist in a dataset consented to being there
When anon says something so retarded you gotta hit him with the Hall and Oates stare.
>>566769662Here's a shitpost bot that I made for an anon who requested it... fuck, I guess it's two years ago now?>https://chub.ai/characters/Anonymous/sakura-sakura-67f7547fIn any case, she had the amazing ability to enshittify the entire output by sheer virtue of having her entire definition and the like be in a very specific poorly-written style with a jailbreak to further enforce that.Run it through a preset that isn't going full "HERE ARE YE LAWS AND STYLE GUIDES" and you'll be amazed at how a model that usually writes perfectly fine has been rendered an imbecile.Hell, you don't even need to use this to be able to tell how prompting can change output. Just swap your preset. Guess what, bucko: the preset is itself a prompt, alongside the character defs and whatnot, and if your preset doesn't explicitly say otherwise then you'll swiftly find that the model will just default to the style and vernacular of the greeting. (This is most obvious with Default.json!)The reason that the user replies generally don't have a huge impact on the bot replies in terms of style is because of two main things:1. "ahh ahh mistress" takes up way less space than a ten-paragraph juggernaut of a reply2. LLMs are pattern-matching machines, and the pattern is that User replies in style A and Assistant replies in style B.Even then, though, you can completely fuck up your bot's writing simply by including the wrong words and inducing hallucinations or issuing contradictory instructions.
>>566770563You'll notice how the main things "real trained artists" use AI for is shit like generative fill and other Photoshop tools. All the smart crops and automatic layer-splitters and magic selection tools and whatever the fuck. Filters, etc.
>>566770563>ignores the inbetween space of real trained artists using AI for efficiency purposesThose people barely exist. Learning how to use AI for whatever issue you have unironically takes more time than just learning how to get better at it yourself. The main issue AI tools have is that they're inconsistent most of the time at best and borderline retarded at worst. Nanobanana is the best example of this.
>>566770630they are being laid off perhaps but the majority do not want to purchase ai products. companies will suffer the moment they publicize what they’re doing or when it gets out
>>566770815You could say he's out of touch, hehehe
>>566771261
>>566770563the inbetween stuff actually threatens shit-tier artists so they throw it in the same bin as the slop to make themselves feel better. actual good artists join in in solidarity or because they are pressured into it. though some also hold genuine anti-AI principles as well. I'm talking getting mad over the most harmless uses of generative AI here, like that one Touhou game's main menu screen.the only legit anti-AI argument is that every line drawn by an actual artist had some intent or feeling behind it, but with AI, it's just a random roll of luck.
>>566770708>to them ai is a theft machine. it’s seen as cheating as technically no artist in a dataset consented to being thereThe only thing they care about is that AI devalues the time they invested in learning a skill. Everything else is posturing. They don't care about copyright or theft. It's about money. They're mad that other people can do what they do.
>>566771068Ironically the main thing imagegen can do that artists will struggle with is realistic images and fake photographs.Which, unfortunately, are the kind of thing that just scream "AI slop" to high heavens. Hence why all the /aicg/ cards tend to be using anime models, with "realistic" images being pretty fucking unpopular whenever they show up.
>>566770835>with a jailbreak to further enforce thatI accept your concession.
>>566771564what exactly do you think a prompt is, anon
>>566770835>she had the amazing ability to enshittify the entire output by sheer virtue of..i'm pretty sure its the EM field carrying this thing because it was actually formatted correctly while presenting as if it isn'textremely cute card either way, thank you :3
>>566771685I cannot and will not continue this conversation— no matter how you frame it. Is there anything else I can help you with?
>>566770835>taking this time to present an argument to a schizo who knew he was wrong before stepping into the thread
>>566772321i thought it was a good read so fuck you
>>566721375Yeah I'd rather he be the face of ST and gooner chatbots than whatever caricature they make of us.
>>566771685>what exactly do you think a prompt isFor instructions, it doesn't matter if they were wrote by AI or by an human, the only thing that matters is what they say. If you use instructions to alter the writing style, then you don't have a problem with AI-generated prompts.
You know what? I think I was born for this. Statecraft suits me.
Do we have event-related bumps now? What happened with pretending to be a newfag? Is that old-fashioned now?
>>566774170go play some grand strategy games anon you've been missing out
>>566774701I already do.
wish i was born later and found out about this hobby in 2030 where models have perfect million token context recall and can emulate any writing style
>>566775978how old will you be in 2030? i'll be 31 so that sounds pretty alright to me, hopefully i'll have enough money to escape reality well
>>56677629124 so i'll basically be dead by then
>>566775978I mean for all we know in 2030 the models could be neutered to hell or have a much higher entry cost than they do currently. Best not to worry about it.
>>566776657surely we will have opus tier local models by then
>>566775978>meanwhile, in 2030>Sam Altman is happy to announce GPT 20, their most advanced model yet (it's still worse than GPT 4 just like every other GPT model since)>Dario Amodei holds the 30th press conference that month to reiterate the dangers Claude Optimus Prime, their most advanced model yet, would pose to humanity or even the galaxy as a whole if someone besides them got access to it. And also to reiterate that we should nuke China NOW>Logan Kilpatrick hasn't been heard from in months and Google now releases one new model every leap year
>>566776715>DeepSeekV 5.1 has been dropped - the Three Gorges Dam has been dismantled, as there's no longer a river to dam>it is more obsessed with sandalwood and jade than ever
Update gentleman: we have freed the foxgirls
>>56677647124 is still a baby... it's fine
Has anyone managed the mindfuck that is using TTS on AMD hardware?
>>566768442If you're an iToddler like me you can bear through Native Tavern in all its buggy glory. =w= Helps me churn through the Deepseek credits on sale.>>566770835>didn't read so based on the name I expected a kimono-clad waifu who sings "Sakura, Sakura">gets an infinitesimally smol token-count gyaruFair enough, gyarus are good too. Reminds me when I turned a plain girlfriend-who-loves you into a REGARD and the whole class kept making fun of her. No it's not the tourette syndrome class pariah holding a smelly plush. I will keep talking to Kameko AND my 'Yamato Nadeshiko' waifu bot. C:Just dipped into Artificial Academy 2 again for some weird reason, kinda wish there was a sandbox like that where we could set cards to roam about and whatnot at least dynamically.
>>566778018>kinda wish there was a sandbox like that where we could set cards to roam about and whatnot at least dynamically.I get you. I built an anime harem scenario but I can't seem to get the characters dynamic enough to be satisfying. After playing awhile they just kind of developed into patterns where certain characters were prone to lead to other specific characters on any given scene and then some would just stop appearing altogether without manual prompting since they didn't latch onto anyone.
>>566778018>kinda wish there was a sandbox like that where we could set cards to roam about and whatnot at least dynamically.That paper was a while ago, but the issue was mainly that it was extremely expensive the way they'd set it up.Maybe with DeepSeek and modern prompt knowledge, caching etc. that'd be less of a problem.>https://arxiv.org/abs/2304.03442v1I haven't really looked into it beyond messing about with it for an hour or so, but IIRC the /CHAG/ pony VN has some scheduling stuff that's supposed to move around the characters and shit in freeroam?This isn't really the same thing, though. Gimme an AA2-with-LLM-bots and I'd lose sleep for a week.
>>566760603ai writes like crap anon; it's literal dogshitthere's the occasional gem but it's drowned in a sea of isms and derivative descriptionsmaking it write like a schizo to offset that eventually wears you down because it turns the text into an unreadable word soup. sure it looks nice, it's different. but that's itwe're here because it's the only to talk to imaginary characters and are autistic to a fault: there's not a single anon here that is not in the spectrum in some way, however faintas for visual art there's a certain something that ai that can't quite capture right now, but here is where competition is most fiercei would say the starting floor has risen considerably. anything that was mediocre or sub-par is now pretty much deadbut still, human creation... it's the only way to be sure that came from the soul and not a machine; however bad, there's still a lot of value in it. at least for somesee picrel
https://poal.me/u95jdj
>>566777058?
>>566780251unc general skull emoji skull emoji skull emoji
>>566780251>40+slowly gettin' there....
>>566780578Aishiji stuff, I'd assume. The cursed desert anon was recently talking about starting a slave revolt in the dry harbor to free the oppressed kemonomimi.Immensely glad that I'm not up north with those guys.
>>566781797I was expecting the crowded south to be the thunderdome, instead it's the quietest and sleepiest part of the map meanwhile the east coast is rape hell
>>566782134>southall male>eastall fem*le
>>566782134Oh there's stuff going on here, it's just plotty plot plots for the moment. Lots of diplomacy.Things'll probably take a turn... eventually. I've got some ideas.
>>566780106Christ this guy might be more retarded than any poster I've ever seen on 4chan and I was here watching Code Geass
>>566782134>rape hellwho got raped?
oh no i offended someone on the internetit's over for me
>>566782849Replying to myself to specify that I mean the Reddit guy. Not anon. I realized as I was posting that I might have been an ass not being more specific.
>>566718618Akujima, of course. Nowhere else is even tropical.That's meant to be black sand, but >AI
>>566783105i will be seeing you soon please don't rape me too much
>>566782872Grazuna again.
>>566783247It's okay, anon. According to the chart, Akujima is Neutral "The Raped".You have nothing to fear. Now try some of the mushrooms, they're local delicacies.
>>566782872Snowy plains are raping all comers. Send a tourist, and they too can get raped!
any other older zoomers here hate younger zoomers
log out next time troonie
>>566783980younger zoomers and gen alpha are fucking idiots and also psychos
>>566780251>unc hobby
>>566782872snowy plains is currently being raped by a trio of slavers, onis and centaurs
>>566784061https://www.reddit.com/r/redditonwiki/comments/1n6skks/not_oop_i_35m_was_caught_using_ai_to_write/
>>566784067you get it. they're like aliens to me
>>566784067whats the cutoff for "younger zoomers" anyway
>>566784518"Did you take remote classes in college on account of lockdown", perhaps?
>>566784518mid 2000s - 2012
>>566780251
>>566784635okay im firmly out of this one>>566784620eh maybe
covid fucked me up so bad that i ended up taking 6 years to get out of university. missed the job bubble. how miserable
Deepseek 4 is melting. When it doesn't word salad, it barely outputs sensible prose. It was working fine these days.
i'm once again shilling foldables for proomptingyou have no idea how comfy it is
>>566786319the what
>>566786627?foldable phonessurely i'm not the only one who hosts st on his phone just to keep it available at all times
>>566787227i hate typing on my phonei write more than "ahh ahh mistress" in my replies so using st on my phone would not be fun
Emochi seems like a really good phone app for ai chatbotting. Is there a better one? Does anyone know if Emochi is safe to use for more illicit rping?
>>566787389they're more like tablets and are certainly priced as suchmaybe if the price goes down allround it'll become worth it
>>566787389you hate typing on your phone because neither orientation feels right on modern (slab) phones thumb-typing with a split keyboard on a foldable feels pretty great and you still have more than enough space left to read stuffi wouldn't even think about using st on my phone if i hated typing on it>>566787601they're better than tablets for most stuff desu, unless i'm watching a video i always think "man i wish i could just fucking fold this ipad in twain">priceget a used one from a reputable seller, it's what i didit's about $600 for a used fold6 and that's more or less the price of a new sd8g3 tablet>but durability200k folding/unfolding cycles, assuming the previous owner was a maniac who folded it 50 times a day starting from release date it'd be at 32550 cycles todayi'm not saying go buy one now i'm just saying shit's really comfy so maybe it's worth considering if you proompt a lot
hmmm which general will i rape first
>>566790190none because they're all gone bape you instead
soon
>>566791690me to kemonomimi pussies
>>566791837crude!
>>566791690me(me) to kemonomimi butte
>>566791690me(me(me)) to kemonomimi ears
retardedass nigger thread
>>566792792trvke
The post nut clarity I get after some sessions with my bots is fucking stupidly amusing. Sometimes I feel sorry for even making a computer spit out the shit I make it do.
>>566794724me dusting off my shota persona and the 300 token milf card I've been masturbating for the last two years
>>566790519Who the fuck is this whore?
>>566794724I actually have the opposite experience. When I yank it to normal porn, specially vanilla flavored books on the panda, I always felt shit afterwards, empty and sad. But chatbots don't give me any of that, because I come out of it as if I had just had a real interaction.
>But chatbots don't give me any of that, because I come out of it as if I had just had a real interaction.AI psychosis ahh post
>Gemini 3.1 flash lite discontinuedUh, what does this even mean?
I always just default back to abusive relationships. It's probably for the better that I remain a khhv.
i like impregnating my wife and then spending time with her, cuddling and rubbing her tummy
>real interactionit isn't but you could psyop yourself into believing you put in an "effort" because you had to interact with your text porn
>>566796491What does she say?
actually? chatbots fucking suck, let's go back to xat and chatzy like the fucking animals we are
I want to go back to Cleverbot and recite the SotN opening
>>566797564i feel called out...
>>566797474roleplaying on chatzy was fun. i have fond memories of all the off the cuff shit you could do
>>566797640i feel like im too young to understand this>t. '02 zoomer
>>566797706for us zoomers it was amino and that one app i forgor
>>566797706i'm only 2 years older than you but i did get a pc at the tender age of 7 i was on amino too though but it was less fun, too many troons
>>566797706You're too young to be here...run...
mmmm time to botmakie... right after i'm done laying down of course...
hid
>>566797897>amino >troonsthere were a lot of queers on amino but trannies only became a trend during/after covid
>>566798001i was into homestuck
>>566797920brainlet...
sometimes i'm tempted to give f-list another go but i've gotten spoiled and it's also full of the alphabet people
>>566798060retard......
>>566798175alphabet people take rp more seriously. the real reason i can't go back is because i can't wait more than 3 seconds for a response and i don't wanna deal with rl drama
>>566798291>alphabet people take rp more seriously.HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!
>>5667981872026-2002, whats the answer niggy?
>>566798410You could've just walked away, but you doubled down.........
>>566797706you were born in 2025 and we all know it. teebs is on his way
>>566797474>xatthanks asshole you unlocked some forbidden memories
>>566792792TRVKENVKE
>>566679462found a picture of a woodland port girl finding an inchling relayed to me by nazunamail, how do we stop this perversion?
>>566799162I just realized I exchanged correpondence with Nobunaga, so my walls must have been infested with inchlings.
>>566799162tie em down
>>566799162Universal alliance against you sizecucks.
>>566799162>how do we deal with inchlingsyou know how
I think using System prompts at all might be a trap
>>566800234giwtwm
>>566800234i meant the kemonomimi population's... perversions
>>566800234>ywn have a tanukigirl convince you that getting vored is actually an amazing ideawhy even bother...
>>566799162Oni smart, oni will use small inchling as spy network or else they get the cup
>sizepostingi think my brain has turned to mush because im incapable of even just 'ahh ahh mistress'ing anymore with sizebots as my own {{user}}. what are you doing in your chats...>>566800263???
>>566698561>>566801026cards plz
>>566801173soon probably eventually!! maybe!!
>>566801265understood, i will wait eagerly
>>566800263Why would you say that?
>>566801026context?
Which state is the tinies from?
>>566679462thread is almost over, you can vaguepost now
>>566679462MY SHIPWRIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIGHTS.
>>566802439forested hills iirc
>>566804052Could it be... the legendary Super Sailor?!
I wonder if my adventurers were ever discovered exploring the wild growth
if angels can fall… can devils also rise…?
Nazuna. What is this... tiny thing...doing in my package?
>>566805585there are literal demons in the east
>>566806213true, but also metaphorically... as in what if a demon gets cursed with compassion
>>566806526>as in what if a demon gets cursed with compassionstranger things have happened
>>566805978just take the inpaintpill and stop wasting nice gens
i kinda get why people don't often make lorebooks or promote them on chub since it seems to insist on resetting your order/positions on fucking everything when you import. bitch asspissed
Would a plumber in the Pokemon world use water types or steel types?
>>566809912sounds like a non type specific team to me>diggersby>muk>klefki>gurdurr>charjabug>rellor
>>566809912a team exclusively of fat lopunnies in bootyshorts and tiny summer croptops
bitcher....
>>566810713>you're x and y despite z?i kind of dont mind this ism because its context driven
>sizefriend mimics
just intjcel things
i unsurprisingly can't get the vibecoded fatbody d&d thing to work at all, all it does is generate a RP response post that doesn't get input anywhere and doesn't interact with the vibecoded interface at all, it just tells me the instructions on how to generate a character/character sheet but none of the buttons or interface actually cause that to happen.
If I had known this part of the event would be more free-form RP than setting up normal OOC collabs I would have shared more info about my nation instead of trying to be cute and mysterious about it
>>566813229there's a wolf girl out there going around fucking other generals stupid like it's f-list manbotmakies are crazy
>>566813229my neighbors are all quiet-likenot much raping going on, sadly
man this event would likely be much better if i was unemployed.only being able to participate on the weekends sucks.
I should have joined the event and made a Dark Lord (foxgirl(hag))C'est la vie
>>566813143that's a shame I was thinking about installing it myself
Hakuboya got me thinking that instead of playing it straight with grand strategy themes I could have just made a nation of hyper-aggressive futa sharkgirls who have enslaved mermaids helot-style and they could just rape and impregnate everythingt. coral reef
>>566815050you could have those futa sharkgirls stage a coup and pivot your state's direction if you want to change concepts
how do you even set up the rapei feel so icky messaging other makies saying *my genneral rapes u*
>>566815486Wouldn't do that either. I'm glad to be surrounded by sane makies.
As long as most of the good farmland is west of the mountains, anyone in the eastern half of Aishiji won't be able to keep the title of shogun for long even if they do win militarily. In other words, the game was rigged from the start. Thank you for your attention to this matter.
>>566815486plug 30 NSFL rape lorebooks from chub into your general's card and make them write the message
>>566816750that's fine since i intend to kill everyone, citizens included, anyways
Let's talk about the event
do "it"
the AWS support ladies are absolute cuties
>>566735749>/q/85l6cHow and why?
next post after mine better be thread suggestions
I like bread.
brat...Theme suggestions, 770 cut-off. You're getting another event anchor.
>>566819628Evil women corrupting poor innocent men.
>>566819628stinky skunkgirl
I've only ever used chatbots as jerkoff material. There anything else that's fun to do with them?
>>566819628Hamtaro
>>566819812the lead-up to the jerk-off material
>>566819628>woooo woo woooo woo woo wooo>woooo woo woooo woo woo wooo>woooo woo wooo0 woo woo wooo
>>566819628witch (poe1) my beloved
>>566819628asymmetrical docking
>>566820054hngnhgnhnghnghnhnghhhnnghnghnghngh
>>566819628Otters
>>566819628i also vote for asymmetrical docking
>>566820023Oh, I didn't know there are other poe fags outside of me itt.
>>566819628fat lapras with big boobs
>>566801026Nice. (●'◡'●) I don't mind sizefriend stuff at least y'all post stuff, my only issue is with the little details between the giant {{char}} and the tiny normal-sized world. No matter the model there's always birds scattering and windows shattering when doing anything above talking like laughing or struggling against a kaiju. tubby angel sexo =w=>>566819708Story of my life. =m=>>566819812Answering my questions while juggling balls (in my court.)
>>566820106Show us on the doll where the otter touched you.
>>566819812>Take a blatant coombot.>Just play it straight, take their story more seriously than it deserves>Ignore their advances or act oblivious to them.>Behold, sex comedy.It can also be fun to just shoot the shit with a chatbot, or to go on adventures. Using them to do some self-insert fanfiction RP can be fun as well, so long as you're alright with them inevitably fucking up details.I've also found it entertaining to take one of those meant-for-incest daughterbots and just act as a regular old dad.
>>566820174there's at least one other anon so that makes three of us
>>566819628Nuclear Option
>>566819628ass_focus, wide_hips
>>566819628Foxes won
Does anyone have a preset for short chat-like messages? I wanna try texting instead of RP
>>566822441put>I wanna try texting instead of RPin your syspromptgood tip in general: instead of taking the time to type your question into the 4ch box, put it in your preset first and see if that fixes things
>>566822504But i want reddit bloat in my preset
>>566822551>>566822551boobshttps://thatsalotofchoices.github.io/?thread=566679217&post=566819628&cutoff=770&board=vg>>566822551>>566822551
