Voices of the community edition[PoE 1]>3.28 Patch Noteshttps://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-forum/patch-notes>Compiled links, tools and utilitieshttps://pastebin.com/SHt8unCt[PoE 2]>Return of the Ancientshttps://pathofexile2.com/ancients>Ongoing 0.4 patch noteshttps://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-forum/2212Previous waystone>>566895405
poo 2 1 poo 1 1 2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_RU0ATC62fkDual wielding in PoE2 has a hidden AS penalty unlike PoE1 where it's fasterThis apparently has existed since 0.1 and isn't mentioned anywhere
0.5 will fix EVERYTHING
>need to reinstall poe2 on HD because my SSD doesnt have enough space>120 gigsFUCKING REALLY?
>>566991115are you brown?
>>566991115I dont think we’ll get a browner post in this thread. I hope this is bait
>262 more poops until patch notes >419 more poops until league launch
>>566990606literally the faces that killed this game
>>566991115holy brownoli, batman
I will play ssf because I think poo2 market is way too bogged and kills my enjoyment. I haven't played since 0.3, is lightning spear amazon still good?
Is there a summon build where you *actively* support your summons.I want my summons to kill everything while I actively buff and heal them like a healer in a mmo.
>>566990985uhm.. swords?
>>566991115sucks to suck, brown fag!
>>566991507we will find out in a week or so
>>566990985Will i get a wife?
>>566990606is that picture of Jonathan AI generated?
Whiter than everyone here and a 4tb SSD costs a months paycheck
>>566990985
Is Varashta good for leaguestart? Lots of talk
>>566992117Yeah
Falling thunder spirit walker
>>566992117it doesn't rely on much to get through the campaign and scale to T16. It was my main hardcore build last league and will be my starter unless they drastically nerf it somehow. The ES to armour node made me feel more tanky than I ever had before.
>>566992506ES got DUMPSTERED bro
poe 1 and poe 2 complement each other. do not fall for ragebait trying to pit the games against each other because we're all in this together
>>566992738this post is sabotage
>>566990985i can't deny all the changes seem extremely goated... but there isn't an idea I haven't tried, I get no enjoyment from other peoples builds, i also did not vibe with druid... so 0.5 is new content but also same old builds for me
>>566992996I mean have you tried literally every class and subclass?Also with all the new uniques, and probably huge changes in the patch notes i assume much will function differently
>>566992117it's the strongest and fastest campaign into t15 maps I think the speedrun record runs varashta djinn's
>>566991115my dad had two 2TB drives like 10 years ago and that wasn't even close to the highest at the time...
>>566992691how?
>>566993205dunno the details but Mark said it was getting nerfed during the Q&A with NiggyD
>>566993205you'll see soon, you won't believe me if I told you right now
>>566993142>Father gave me two of his hard drives that he had>It had like 100gb worth of PSP isos>Had fun with it>Explore further>Find porn videos from websites>All of them are shitI never confronted him about it. I'm not sure if he knows that I know.
>>566993259all I remember him saying was a nerf to recharge rate which can be solved with gear>>566993271source: dude trust me
>>566993104I'm not one of those chads who can remember the hundreds of uniques man, I can remember like 3. Also a build that requires a unique won't be a very fun league starter... that being said the only ascendancies i haven't tried are infernalist, varashta, ritualist, tactician, gemling and acolyte.
>>566993552just do ritual if you need a unique bwo
>>566993552Well I can say from experience that Varshta is fun and strong as fuck, becomes gay late game when you have to stack a million skeletons thoughRitualist bleed is cool, but takes a minute to get goingIdk about the rest, tactitican start is just grenade spam afaik
>>566992996are you fucking retarded? the new runes, uniques and kalguran skills alone means dozens of new builds. Not to mention the inevitable patch notes shaking everything up.
>>566992506>>566993123What makes it so good for scaling and running? Is the staff + focus node that good?
>>566992738poe 2 got me hooked again, last real league in poe 1 for me was delve
>>566993709>Ritualist bleed is coolGot a link to this? I was looking for one of these for inspiration>>566993768For a league starter? I'm not one of those hardcore nerds that's going to pause the patch preview video and start theorycrafting potential builds.
>>566993768>99% of new skills are worthless>hundreds of runes to bloat the drop pool>only 3 are worth using>99% of uniques are worthless>the three that are good will cost 90943252 divinesepic
me enjoying both poe 1 AND 2
>>566993976(You) have to go back to D4 general, doomfaggot.
>>566993768>dozens of new ways to trigger coc comet>none will work as well as spark
>>566993976So just like poo1
>>566994147>thinking coc is not getting obliterated2/10 bait, m8
>>566993709>tactician startThe best start for tactician is actually poison frag + ed/c, genuinely free clear. Terrible on bosses though, which is why you'll need grenades
>>566994080I like both games but I've barely played 1 since 2 came out
>>566994163Yes.I don't know why anyone would expect PoE2 to be different.
>>566991815do you buy a pc once every 10 years?
>>566993783thunderstorm + kelari's is very strong for campaign
>>566994568Its the same in D2. Its the same in sleepoch. No idea how its in D4Useless items are inevitable when you have so many options. Dunno why so many people bitch and cry about it as if we are doing some efficiency test
>>566994297gaining energy now has a hard cap 0.1 delay
>>566994628pretty much yeah
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=diozNgR5GfQit's up
>>566994851dont forget the additional nerf to comet, the GGG double-tap special
>>566994846People want the devs to spend time making good things instead of making garbage that literally no one will ever use
>>566993709I could not make ritualist bleed work when I last tried in 0.3
what the fuck is the point of detonating arrowit sucks so much ass and feels like it has no place in the bow skills
>>566995046The only way that can happen is if they powercreep every league, so they’re certain the new items they introduce will be usedWho cares if old items remain relevant, right?
>>566995163Or they make things with a certain power budget that have interesting effects instead of Glorp Shitto's Brimmed Hat of Faggotry that gives you -800 health in exchange for 15 strength and making your farts turn blue
What's the current state of demon form? Are there changes planned for it in the upcoming patch?
>>566995280And how do you determine power budget? Do you know how many moving parts there are in this game?
>>566995280every patch has had 10+ meta uniques (that are usually nerfed for the next league) wtf are you even whining about
>>566995596>10+
>>566995518>And how do you determine power budget?I know it when I see it, and I'm not a professional game designer. If they can't see it, they need to be fired
>>566995596*10+ NEW meta uniques
>Subnautica2 is already a legendary success because Subnautica1 was kino>PoE2 is already a legendary success because PoE1 was kinoAnd they both cost only $30. I love my based games (collab when?)
>>566995748>new streamer fotm dropped
i will never understand the uniquewhine, every single build uses uniques, are you mad that the T5 uniques you pick up off the ground arent worth anything?
>>566995748is Subnautica actually fun? I never see people post actual gameplay of it
>>566995706As i assumed. Just vibe based bullshit. Nothing quantifiable. If you dont know how to do something or have any idea how something is done dont try and criticize the people who do that thing for a living. Just general life advise for you lil gup
too long of a gap between the reveal and release. the hype is dead
how stupid would it be to roll a ssf league starter with intention to use the new twisted empyrean
>>566995949>lil gupzoomies out
>>566995518By comparing to rare items used by successful buildsif a unique cannot compete with a decent rare then it's objectively garbage and not worth the dev time
>>566995748is it better than below zero? that game was shit
>>566995985NOOOOOOOO NOT MUH HYPECALL THE E-CELEBS
>>566996068????? then what would be the point of rares? most of the game's systems are built around rares they are the bedrock of gameplay. love how indignant know-nothing shitters like yourself get.
>>566996318because the unique will have a special skill on it or some kind of modifier that can't be found on rares?are you retarded?
>>566994929im not buying or watching you play D4 you faggots
>>566996068Most uniques (other than the extremly OP ones) cannot compete with a rareThey can only compete with a rare when combined or used in conjunction with other uniques, special affixes, ascendancies, keystones, so on and so onVoid battery is basically worse than rares in 99% of scenarios but people dont use it in 99% scenarios they use it when they use many power charges
>>566995748subnautica was boring as fuck
>>566996535>gachanigger>hideout based on aislop chink videosyeah, you're a retardPEACE
>>566995943its just narrated by ingame ai and audio logs survival with story and zero replayability, get it on sale or pirate
>>566996546I tried to beat it twice and got bored both times when you had to start building bases
>>566995464We don't knowI'm just hoping GGG's nerf blunderbuss doesn't collateral the builds I would like to try
>>566996730id rather play a gacha than D4 thats how shit it is
>>566996535I love those anime floor paintings in hideout. I once met one with 2B's ass on the ground and noticed that the owner was here to. he ran up to me and stopped next to me, looking at her ass with me together. we either shared a silent understanding as men of culture together, or he was jerking off next to me. either way, I'm glad I got to see that ass that day.
>>566997472
>>566996035lil POOP
>>566996535gugu gaga!
>>566997964raped
I love Jonathan and I love PoE2!
>>566998384Gaaaaay!
>>566998384Many are saying this
>>566998384nobody is saying this
>>566998384I'm saying this
>>566998384Neat, I didn't know Chris Wilson still posted here.
>>566998261Don't shitpost with my wife
>>566999054Chris hasnt even completed the game yet and gotten to maps because ”he doesn’t have time anymore” (he has time to make youtube slop tho and attend every magic convention)
>>566999153He's busy making his new game anon
any boot slot items that are bare feet or stirrups
>>566995748On a scale of Subnautiva 1 to Below Zero how does rate in the amount of intrusive, atmosphere-stifling story nonsense.
is penance brand a good build?
Should I play poe 1 or 2 first?New to arpgs also I'm misogyonistic and transphobic if that helps
>>567000091Diablo 4
>>566999095it's not a shitpost
>>567000032every skill can do ubers with enough investment
>>566999857answer me right now
>>567000091Both games are great anon. Try PoE1 for a couple weeks and then play PoE2 when the new league comes out
>>566999153How? The game isn't even finished, it takes like 10 hours to finish it.
>>567000718He doesnt have time because hes making a new game
>>566998384Jonathan's heart seems to be in the right place but he looks intolerable to hang out with. Mark looks like it would be fun to play some video games with him.
>>567000718The game isn't good enough to be "finished".
>>567000889I bet Jonathan is fun but he's definitely the guy that everyone in the group makes fun of and he's a good sport about it. You're right about Mark
>>567000779He doesn't have few hours to play this masterpiece? Weird.
>he is a jingakh
>>567001178he couldn't stomach the dark patterns
>>566993963>>566995109I stole this guys build for Endgamehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tx--XxoiM68&t=426sI don't remember what I did for campaign. IIRC it was a combo of Rake, Disengage, and like Explosive Spear/Spear Throw, then Spearfield whenever you get it. All I remember is it basically doesn't function until like level 20, then starts to feel decent, then comes online by act 4
johnny boy in the tuuuuub tonight
decided to start playing last epoch during the wait to 0.5, I assume it doesn’t have a general anywhere. It’s like the most ok arpg ever, doesn’t really do anything special but it feels fine to play.
>>567002453it's a good weekend game
>>567002493yea I doubt it’s gonna last me all the way until the 29th
remember that time when ggg claimed that chris wilson is totally still involved with the company and his name was just accidentally left out of the files sent to the governmentan unironically insane lie. really showed that they don't consider poo players sapient
remember that time they said 2 campaigns 1 endgamejonathan lied, people died
>>567002453They need to add a ton to endgame and it could be decent. It feels like you're running t1 white maps the whole time
>mfw still enjoying mirage league>I want to try a new build to finish challenges>cant find anything that will be as good/fast as BV occultist>theres literally nothing
>>567003104flicker
>ehh havent played since 0.1 might as well try it agian>try ssf why not>reach end game>no tradegod this shit is boring without tradewhy do people play like this
>>567003389The game is too easy with trade
>>567001361wasnt this a mathil/dslily build?
>>567003636>>567001361nevermind i saw the atziri spear thing at the start and thought it was that
i need sex with ds_lily
The Beast Zapper>Living Lightning+Overcharge>Wolf Pack+Overcharge>5 different tamed beasts+Overcharge >spam Elemental Sundering, constantly get 20 Shock pulses from your minions shocking themselves>1500% base damage x 20 = 30,000% base damage on every single castFind a single flaw. Protip: You can't.
>>567004142this but smokie_777
why did 0.5 take 6 months
>>567004904It was the biggest update of all time
sex with allie
>https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile2builds/comments/1t5xox0/ice_shot_uber_arbiter_ohko_no_adorned_no_snipe_no/What the fuck is this fag wearing? He's being a le so ebin cheeky plebbit faggot and not answering.
>>567004956>added nothingWhat were they working on all this time though?
anyone having trouble with captcha? Is the ccp behind this? haven't been able to post all day to "abuse" from ip
>>567005096All the updates
>>567005047not even predditors could stand this freak
>>567005096you know how hard it is to get things to spawn in a fixed position on an INFINITE atlas? they literally needed to come up with new mathematical formulas and program them into the game
>>567005078https://www.pathofexile.com/shop/item/DemonicArmourPack>It’s literally called Demonic.He wasn't making a joke
new to this fun, are shop mtx rotated in and out? there are certain sets I see people with that I can't find in the store.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1MHQmQXcbTE
whenever I replay a4, I cannot help but notice the bosses inspired by japanese video games. the prisoner takes me back to dark souls 2 (almost literally), and the landshark clearly uses monster hunter inspired moves from zinogre and diablos. I like the beast bosses a lot.
>>567006268No, but many from PoE1 don't appear on the PoE2 website/shop. And there's no way to tell if they've ported them or not other than having them and checking in game.
its shit
>>567006268There's three informal groups of mtx.Group one is supporter pack/vault pass/challenge rewards. These are one time only. If you missed it, you missed it.Group two is lootbox drops. These eventually become available in the store.Group three is mtx store. These have rotating deals so wishlist anything you want to try to get a discount. The website will message you when an item on your wishlist is on sale.
>>567006297these still look like ass lmao
>>567006297>shitty pvp items in an arpgbut why?
>>5670062971c trash
>>567006530>>567006710thanks fellas
comparison is the thief of joy
>>567006297>best helmet is now charm mageblood + infinite flasks on bossesuhhhhhh
Is this runic ward slop only for this league? Does it even apply to hardcore?
>>567006297>remnant slopGrim(no Dawn)
>>567007281hey youpick up that flower
I'm only here for the vaal queen from poe2, so give me 2 classes that can use her drops, one for the current league and one for the next, I dont care about meta and shit
>>567005096160 runes
>Teaser every dayCool
>>567006268Poe2db should have mtx page that shows all poe1 mtx enabled, there's like 5x more than shown in-game for some reason
Hi, I'm Mark Roberts, game director on Path of Exile
>>567006297I got hyped and thought it would be support for garden druid, what a shame. Anyway>Full on PDR on a HelmetWoah, I mean both of these are statted like dogshit but at least they got some neat features
When is the next league? I'm thinking of playing this again or subbing a month on RuneScape and just waiting for the next league.
>>567008658No one knows, the 6 month delay was unprecedented so there might be a chance that the next one is another 6 month wait, which just so happens to put it around December, around Exilecon.
>>56700865829th this month
why the fuck is my filterblade is so fucking slow in firefox but not in chrome
>>566995748People have been saying Sub 2 is shit.Main complaint is "too much chatter" ruining immersion. Zoomers need constant "Focus, M" tier chatter in their ears it seems, otherwise they get PTSD from the quiet ambience.
>>567006297TUBBED
The D4 expansion forced Jonathan to push back an entire month
>>567008826Like, is it announced or is it still just speculation? I would play SSF anyways so I don't mind if I get a late start.
it's so over for PoE2....
>>567009146'vke
>>567009346literally who?
>>567009296https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3931070
Just took a fat poe2
>>567009659how long did you have to sit on the d4
>>567009659In the tub I hope
They should change it so that if you find a unique with a level 20 version of a skill then it gets downgraded when equipped on a lower level character and have it level with the player
>>567008814>>567008658They said after Exilecon, strong chance of december
>>567007187>infinite flasks on bossesIt's level 84 and does nothing for your maxhit while taking up your best defensive slot howeverbeit.
>>567010923good thing they added a way to upgrade uniques to higher tier bases ;)
>>567010923talking about the helmet retard
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R-UG3642raQLook how far we've come, poopbros
>>567010974retard
>>567011764yeah you are :)
>>567011331https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_aP9O0Vnt0clook how far we've fallen, poopsisters
>>567011864retard
>>567012437
>>567008518that mod was on it before. the remnant slop is what they added
Every unique will have a skill now
I don't see Belton in the OP
>>567012103https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vkCu3V81N74look how far we've come back, poopbrethren
>>567012908How unique
>>567012908Why is this bad?
>>56701290820 uniques have a skill out of 400 or somethingyou're a bit thick ain't ya
>>567012985
POOP
>>567012985It's truly over, isn't it?
>>567013114uniques with tied in skills are just set items
>>567013930
>>567013114Certain uniques that have actually unique skills can be interesting, but when the skill is basically just>duuuuude, what if we get this cut sorc spell and shove it into the gear!>great ideaThen it's not very engaging. Shield Throw + Catch being a unique is okay, Shield Throw being limited to a unique though I don't agree with
>>567013114>ProsThe skill is actually unique now>ConsMakes build choices extremely narrow since now you HAVE to use said item.>Uses up that slot>Have to deal with how shit/good the stats are
>>567014170prove me wrong
>>567013175Bro I think every unique they've revealed has had one and they just remade 2 old ones to have one.
>>567014592show me a set that only has one item
come to think of it, are there any ARPGs where your character doesn't become a walking destroyer of worlds, or are we stuck with dark souls for that experience?
>>567013114I just think it is dull. Uniques having a unique skill is pretty rare in PoE1 and is like "Oh shit, you get a fucking SKILL from this?" They seem intent on doing it for everything in PoE2 which I am not keen on.
>>567014708fate
>>567014708>ARPGThe word you're looking for is Diablo-like and no, there isn't really one.
>ITS UPhttps://www.twitch.tv/alkaizerxhttps://www.twitch.tv/alkaizerxhttps://www.twitch.tv/alkaizerxhttps://www.twitch.tv/alkaizerx
that just gave me an idea>uncut skill gems can upgrade skills from unique itemsthere. you can all suck my cock later.
anyone knows what that icon that looks like an ice infusion but isn't an ice infusion is in the hollow mask section of the video?>unless they changed itit seems something else entirely, gets used up by arc on the next pack and seems to generate off 5 casts of oos just like a lightning infusion would but...is there hope they've listened and reverted that whole dogshit?
why do people want to run the same map over and over againit gets boring as fuckand if your able to and you dont then it feels bad because your inefficientretards
>>567014891It's so over
holy fuck Flash absolutely raped Light
>>567014858this one?https://store.steampowered.com/app/246840/FATE/why the fuck have I never heard of it? looks neat>negative review: cheats got removedwoooooooooooooow
>>567015234the demo for it came preinstalled on some versions of Windows back in the daywas fucking great
>>567015091>why do people want to run the same map over and over againMuh divs/hour
>>567015091it a special kind of autism that is responsible for some of the best race car drivers in existence.
I am banned on 3 other boardspoe 2 good
On another thread someone posted a campaign guide for monk that uses wyvern form and was supposed to be a breeze... I just tried it and its so fucking shit.Its another league I'm not starting melee
>>567015365neat. I got pandemonium and turok 2 with my graphics card as a kid and had a love-hate relationship with both.
>>567015091You don't play these games and it shows. Or any games with grinding.
>>567015653Wyvern is an absolute clunker unless you're self-chill and anyone who tells you otherwise is a retard who hates you and wants you to suffer. The only redeeming quality is broken single-target that GGG will surely rape, tub and sabotage in 0.5.
>>567014696I thought for a moment, and then I decided to just give you a pedantic answer and call you a retard, retard
>>567015917
>>567015917nta, but you dare call someone a retard after using AI to formulate an objectively wrong answer, since the discussion is about equipment sets, which were popularized with diablo 2 and always contained at least 2 parts.
>>567016209>liking Tri posts
We like Tri here
>>567015653campaign is grenades or ed/c until further notice
>>567016328
>>567014708Nothing modern, no. And by modern I mean like since even PoE1 over a decade ago.I want to say there should be room for an ARPG that is slower and more hardcore, but PoE2 0.1 was like only half that and people were still going ballistic over how "bad" and "hard" and "boring" and "slow" it was, and I personally think 0.1 was too fast in maps if you want something to be slow and deliberate.But in their defense, 0.1 was still balanced around killing 1000000000000000 mobs to find one decent item. Not like you'd go into a map, have some tough battles with a few rares and walk out with your hard earned rewards.
>>567015653>>567015830I'm still amazed how act 1 league start for every ranged class is "yeah just shoot shit" and as long as you're not stupid you progress easily, and melee is forced into clunky combos that deal shit damage
My ideal PoE familyWife: LilyThat's it.
>>567016209>fake pious faggot who constantly tries to downplay the old guard of poe1 to shill for toxic positivity newcomersfuck right off>>567016275the definition of a 'set' is any non-negative collection of items. >appeal to traditionD2 doesn't define what a set is. It certainly doesn't define how the design of set items are pigeon holing. The implication being that item 'sets' that are mandatory to use specific skills or prevent customization are bad for build diversity or creativity. Uniques with skills prevent similar skills from existing as gems, or they risk being relegated as redundant. This is pretty obvious design space you give up when making an item carry a skill; bad or good, it mandates its' use if you like that thing, and doesn't allow room for creativity
>>567016581If PoE 2 was an entirely new game from another studio it would be praised, but its a sequel that takes a dump in what made the original successful with its audience, so naturally the reception was bad
>>567015084i wouldn't get your hopes upit's just a lightning infusion, generated by oos, consumed by flame wall for bonus lightning damage to projectilesinfusions are straight up vision™ tierlook at all the stupid shit they're adding with remnantsthey fucking LOVE remnants so infusions are going to stay as remnants forever
>>567016725>D2 doesn't define what a set isfor this discussion, yes it does. your argument is completely irrelevant.
My ideal PoE familyWife: LilySister: LilyMother: LilyDaughter: LilyGranddaughter: Lily
>>567017217thats just an assertion. you are gay
I'm still playing Mirage
>>567016581there's inherently nothing wrong with a slow and hardcore game, the problem is the other half of their game doesn't agree with that definitionmouse vs wasd alone doesn't agree with their definition when you can spin yourself like a retard and shoot in all directions like a survivors clone+total attack time, cooldowns, wind up animations, stun, heavy stun, stagger, maim, chill, freeze, temporal bubble, wind down animations, tap one skill roll sprint one second roll tap one skill, turning rate of a coffin (unless wasd) all clash when you turn a right in ogham manor and 30 bloodshits swarm you, let alone in juiced maps
only decrepit oldtroons refuse to adopt WASD movement btw
>>567017121unless its the dev client with placeholder icons that looks nothing like a lightning infusioni was thinking updated ice icon if whatever that sorc had was running the switch keystone but arc doesn't use ice
>>567017529that and the fact that there are no utility skills used by players or mobs. they zerg you down, you zerg them down. no other gameplay loop exists
>Ritualist with the new chest can regenerate 4504 Life per SecondFREE immortalityHow is this balanced?
>>567017772>that looks nothing like a lightning infusionbruv the lightning infusions are little diamonds on your characterthe icon is just updated to be more in line with its graphical effect
>>567018261meh, i was really hoping for a change
>>567018704I pray for them to undo the fix every patch bro, it ain't happeningthis is just the way they think spellcasters should be and it feels like dogshit
Melee pros:>Bell combo is OP with monk and melts bosses>Warrior animations are coolRanged pros:>Don't want to kill yourself playing itNot great tradeoffs
>>567018159>deals 4505 damage to you
>>567019058>runic ward blocks itheh. nothing personnel, kid
Whatever happened to poe mobile?
>>567019421It was renamed to poo2
>>567019421rightfully aborted
is diablo immortal good? or at least better than 4?
Nofap until ds_lily league launch cosplay
I'm interested in both new sorc and chalupa, but I will not pick up the orbs. Unless they change infusions to just grant buffs instead of dropping rat shit you need to walk around to scoop up (and they won't), I shan't be playing them.>>567019986No.
Place your bets here!How many poo2 sets of patch notes do you think we will get?I'm betting 7
>>567019986NoIt’s basically just Diablo 3 but all the good gems are in loot boxes/gacha that you have to pay for with real money
>>567020107with chonk does not need to pick orbs up, you get so many stupid ass +radius pickup passives while getting remnant effect that they basically immediately get absorbed when they show up on your screen
>>567020110I think there will be the initial patch notes and 3 revisions for a total of 4 (four)
>>567019986I played it for a while and when I quit it cost like $450,000 to max out one character. The gameplay was better than PoE 2's thoughbeit. Probably on par with Diablo 1.
Finally poosisters...we have something to play until 0.5
>>567020232Ok nice, good to know
>>567020516Wasn't that playable in day 1 with the bypass strat?Or is this a full on crack?
>>567019986No, unironically just play D4 if you want to play a game like that.
I wish datmodz would play something other than d4
>>567020516
>>567021208He's a dadgamer with a bitch wife now anon
>>567022027raped
vision boys are in shambles right now
When are the patch notes supposed to be dropping?
>>567022612hes right
>>567022749In 262 poops>>566991359
>>56702274921st I believe. At least they saiud a week before the 0.5 drops.
>repeats "corgo" over and over>pretends something big dropped when it clearly didnt>complains about some mechanic ironically>repeat these three things for hours upon hourshow the fuck do people watch this guy?
>>567022965autism
>>567022965It's comfy
>>567022832How do you poop this much?
>>567023184He's the biggest boy
>>567022612>>567022762He is right, but also boss content shouldn't contain a bunch of cheap one-shot gotchas if they weren't made to be trivialized. Granted, Arbiter has gotten a lot more fair than it used to be but it's still kind of retarded
>>567022920fugman i wish they didn't announce this league 3 weeks out from release day, the wait is pain
>>567023420biggest update ever haha
>>567022965World TBC
>>567022965I'm also autisticHe does happen to be good at the game too
>>567023420They had to, otherwise they wouldn't be able to fit the secret new class into the update.
>>567022965For me, because he doesn't talk too much. And he plays "melee". And I like Asian people.I like to watch Lily too because she has the best music, she doesn't talk too much too and of course she's cute as fuck.
>>567024071no chance there is a new class being added, but I definitely think they will add a last minute ascendancy similar to how they last-minute revealed the Varashta one
>>567022612is this vision shit finally over? I feel like they locked Jonathan in the basement
>>567024167man I was kinda hyped for the last Ranger ascendancy....
>>567022965When I was learning the game, watching his streams taught me how to craft gear. I'm also autistic like him
>>567023396Well if the 0.5.0 league goes core, true one shots won't be a thing anymore. You should be able to tank an Arbiter ball/hallway for free if you have an ignite charm and more than 0 ward, no matter how much EHP you have. You'll need to make multiple mistakes to due outside of drowning orb type situations.
>>567024167That was to coincide with Mirage, this time we don't have a poe1 league so it's not going to happen. There's just no real reason for them to leave that out of the announcement, it steals hype from the initial reveal and going forward people would expect it to keep happening and be disappointed if it doesn't.
>>567024412>watching his streams taught me how to craft gear.This. I learned to craft bif fucking axes thanks to him
>>567024581Haven't they snuck in a new ascendancy like 2 times now at least? I remember we got the lich and the djinn.
what if they added a secret ascendancy for that dreamer character?would be a cool way to give it some lore instead of just being a zanzibart tier thing
>>567022965World of Warcraft: The Burning Crusade is the first expansion for the MMORPG World of Warcraft, launched on January 16, 2007. It introduced the world of Outland, increased the level cap to 70, added two new playable races (Blood Elves and Draenei), and featured flying mounts. Players fight the Burning Legion in this, a critically acclaimed expansion.
>>567024101gay
>>567024778Lich is an alt ascendancy, Varashta is an exception like I said. I wouldn't expect anything beyond what they talk about, Jon mentioned some new hidden node for acolyte once you interact with Chayula, but the fact that he mentioned it is even more indication that they're not hiding a secret whole new ascendancy.
>>567024472what do you think ward does?
>>567025353abyssal lich*
Smith of Kitava is going to get a Kalguuran Runesmith alt ascendancy btwit WILL be metayou WILL clang
>>567025353That's kind of lame I think, I'm aware that they've focused entirely on reworks but I'm not a huge fan of the likelihood that when 1.0 releases it'll just be swords and acts 5/6
>>567025802>1.0 releases it'll just be swords
Four new alt ascendancies, one for each reworked league mechanic. You heard it here first.
>>567025802Nah, I am calling 1.0 will be two classes.Duelist (Gladiator)then either Templar or Shadow.
>>567026178>Runesmith>spooky ritual druid>chayula monkwhat does delirium give?
>>567026178Which ones? I don't buy this for a second but the speculation can be fun. I was half expecting a runesmith version of smith of kitava or a vaal ritualist
>>5670263451.0 will be marauder, for a balanced spread of attributes
Surprised GGG didnt mention anything about buffing rog, gwen tujen with expedition currency
1-3 watering plants druid4-6 siege ballet tactician7-9 warrior with that fire branch thing on the ground0 logout and uninstalldoubles fly to new Zealand and dissect jonatroon to find out if he's really an alien
>>567026730:)
>>567026730Ohnonononononono
>>567026373Maybe insane pathfinder? Delirium disciple?
>>567026730congrats you're free
>>567026178I doubt they do that. People would expect an alt ascendancy for every league until every class gets one and I don't think GGG would want to lock themselves into that
>>567026770Its the good ending, anon. I am happy.
>>567026730>uninstalling the best ARPG ever
>>567027148I didn't uninstall Grim Dawn though?
>>567026730you fukcing won bigly
>>567026178I would believe it it's not hard to flip a couple of nodes and change them like abyssal lichbreach - chonk runes/expedition - smith of kitava ritual - ritualist OR oracle maybe because of aoifedelirium - gemling
>>567026730Big W
Now? Playing Subnautica2. After? Playing PoE2. Me? Pic related.
>>567027653ritual gets oracletemple gets ritualist
a secret class for unlocking the entire atlas tree
Abyssal lich was a fucking mistake, now everyone thinks every ascendancy will have secret hidden shit.
we think that because johnathan literally mentioned it in the interviewretard
>>567028013We don't have secret hidden shit in Diablo4
>>567028184you have a secret cow level, NIGGER
>>567027064>>567028013Abyssal Lich is genuinely not even that big of a change, it's a recolor and two changed nodes. It's not like GGG has to do that for everyone but the box has been opened so to speak
these were the uniques they decided to showcase?
>>567028306Mark is a support cuck, so of course he showed them
Still no mention of the 160 runes being put into the sockets tab or currency tab or having an affinity
>>567028438They obviously go in the socket tab retard
>>567028438buy the socketable tab :)
>>567028438there's a rune tab
>>567028306>"support your allies">its all defense kek shit they are so terrified to open the box that was poe1 aurabots giving like 10x the damage to players
>>567028504fucking where? there is no space >>567028508i did >>567028559that would be scummy
>>567028761They will make it bigger you fucking retard
>>567028761g*ped and r*ped
>>567028638As they should, I hope they never let it in.
yup, don't need a crafting benchwe have kino like >>567028761d4? badcould never have such a great and well planned system d4bad
>>567028638Don't we already have that with zookeeper builds? We're going to have it even more so
>>567028761Erm chud... I see some space right there
>>567028806>They will make it bigger you fucking retardi fucking hope they do otherwise this league is going to be a clusterfuck for crafting imagine 160 different runes all in 1 tab, what they will need to do is give each mechanic its own page within the tab now that i look at it1 page for: standard runes include the purples as well1 page for: soul cores (temple of chaos)1 page for: idols 1 page for: aldorexact same as the fragment tab thats coming, that way if its expanded you can get a new page for it and its easier to choose from because its getting big at this point and 160 is getting added on >>567028840AIEEEEEEEEE>>567029270good one
>>567029379Multiple pages would probably be for the best yeah, or probably just cutting the lower tier runes that serve to do really nothing but just make it so you can replace runes later. I forget, but is there a trade up for runes like there is with remnants?
>>567029379She's so strong
Unironically playing ranger deadeye on 0.5 to clear this slogshit campaign as fast as possible
>>567024472>true one shots won't be a thing anymorehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DuGIBAvSggk&t=668szizzie asked zaccie and confirmed it's not actually a cheat death, it's just another type of hp to stack that doesn't behave any differently from any other type of hp
>"we don't need hp on the tree.. we can solve it our way :^)">adds a stat on gear that is essentially just more life wow.. true gamedev kinoI kneel zaccie
Unsure if to start ssf for next league or just make one now, I'd like to play trade for my first character though
>>567030041>but is there a trade up for runes like there is with remnants?yeah similar to essence tab
>>567030493trade first because its most fun at the start of a fresh economy. also>enter in these retarded captchas for each replyis 4chan for actual fucking retards?
>>567030493Trade is gay. Play SSF
>>567030409>gear being impactful in an arpg is le bad
>>567030818The new captcha is trying hard to be a brainlet filter, especially if you phonepost.>>567030939I'll keep it in mind, I'll probably do a longer-term SSF character for EA period with 0.5 having all the content that will be in the pre-release
think infernalist will be decent?
Runic ward is extra life but you can also spend it with some skills and supports. So I guess it must regenerate or something
>>567030983as it stands right now gear establishes something like 90% of your power and your decisions on the tree mean so littleso many noobs start poe2 and take 5 minutes on one boss because their weapon is complete dog shit or they are using level 5 armor at level 49and its been like this since day 1its not even like "you need good ilvl" its that some mods like +gem levels for casters and %phys / flat phys for attack based characters are so insanely integral to player power that it completely trivializes everything else, especially the abomination that is the current iteration of the skill treeand new players don't know this, hell even existing players don't even know thiswe get routine posts "how do I fix my build" and they're using poorly rolled gearbut yea go off about such amazing rpg design when over half the players quit before leaving campaign because they don't understand how to make their character stronger and are confused as to why putting those points into the skill tree isn't helping (hint its because the skill tree FUCKING. SUCKS.)
>>567031308Pretty sure we see it regen in the videos.
runic ward nodefense stacker spirit walker
>>567030983>tree being impactful in an arpg is...
>for botanists>Doesn't have anything to actually do with plant spells, is just some stupid co-op bullshit and mediocre effectsBruh.
>>567015917Which AI is that?
>>567031370>some mods like +gem levels for casters and %phys / flat phys for attack based characters are so insanely integral to player power that it completely trivializes everything else,how is that any different from poe1? some of the most expensive items in poe1 are +gem levels
>>567028761What a fucking mess
>>567032130uhm, actually, that's kino bloat and a crafting bench having a list of mods is worse.
>>567032130there are 13 basic runes in poe 2.there are 31 basic runes in poe 1.
>>567032059+gem levels are rare enough in poe1 and relatively unnecessary for comfy clear that you don't really have to all in them until later or playing a spell build. However, there's no such thing as added spell damage or dot multi in this one
>>567031717a dark pattern
>>567032059>how is that any different from poe1?in poe1 you can clear the campaign in doo doo poo gear because it's meant to be a cake walk and the skill tree offers you enough methods of basic defense and offense to comfortably clear it, not to mention the crafting bench which can be used and is intuitive to new players; if they just need something they just go to the crafting bench and click on itthen you get to endgame and start getting roadblocked so you need to start doing research on ways to get good gear and start making your character actually strongin poo2, johnathan has decided the campaign is meant to be a slogfest because "you need to have fun in the campaign"I don't really disagree with it, they've added enough stuff to the campaign and sprinting, while a retarded instead of just shrinking maps, helps alleviate the sloggy bitsbut anyway, the poo2 campaign is "hard"; you can not just use one skill and bulldoze through it UNLESS you have good gearif you don't have good gear, it becomes the vision™ and is a slow clunky and frustrating mess absolutely nothing has changed since the initial poo2 media tour btw, some players were owning because they had good gear, others were like "WOW I LOVE THIS GAME ITS SO HARD AND BRUTAL I SPENT 50 HOURS FIGHTING(DYING) TO THE GORILLA!!!"
light pattern: making the game super epic and awesome and hard and EPIC BOSS FIGHTSdark pattern: getting good gear and being able to 1shot everything anyway
I trust Mark and Jonathan
i trust them to fill up the tub until it overflows
>>567033190I trust them to continue making PoE2 and even better game than it already is
my fiance just yelled at me to stop saying poo to replace random words that rhyme with itI didn't even realize I was doing it but apparently it was enough to be a big deal for her. I spend too much time here
>>567032664The real problem with the Poo2 campaign is the differential between being literally unkillable (rare or merchant gave you a good chest), one shotting bosses (rare or merchant gave you a good weapon), or struggling constantly because you got average drops and not only is nothing an improvement, but your res can't be salvaged
I trust Mark. I don't trust Jonathan.
>>567033830I was mad yesterday on drops. I did run of Act 1 with a bow. This shit didn't drop me even a single bow. I mostly get fuckin talisman and maces instead.
>>567032664idk i just think some poe1 players are either too autistic or too stupid to play poe2. like the sperg over tiered currency and the crafting bench, the crafting bench in poe1 is just a list of tiered affixes that use different currencies to craft different affixes. same shit as poe2 just formatted differently.
>>567034039Sign to go full yiff or Ranger slooms
>>567034124doing it the poe1 crafting bench way means less inventory clutter, fewer stupid little things to click on the groundthe harvest juice design is best, where there are a few specific currencies to fuel all the different affix crafts
I bought Diablo 4 at full price on launch because I believed I was buying a game I'd play for years. I was wrong, and not because the game got stale. Because Blizzard deliberately made it worse for people who don't pay more.With the Lord of Hatred expansion, Blizzard overhauled the entire loot system. Normal and magic items now drop in higher tiers (Torment 1 and 2), and players are expected to use the Horadric Cube to upgrade them. The Horadric Cube is locked behind the Lord of Hatred paywall.This is categorically different from how Vessel of Hatred handled its paywalled content. Runes were locked behind that expansion too, but runes were supplemental. They weren't a core mechanic the base game was redesigned around. They didn't even appear for players who hadn't bought the DLC. The Horadric Cube is different. The base game's loot loop has been rebuilt with the expectation that you have it. Without it, you're playing a broken version of a game you already paid full price for.
>>567035128Why would you buy D4 retard
>>567034571yeah but the currency in poe2 scales with your character, it's useful across the board. and it filters out naturally as you level so you aren't running around t16 dropping hundreds of transmutes. the crafting bench is largely useless by the time you get to endgame.as far as harvest goes, harvest league was the definition of bloat filled with tiered currency.
>>567035237i asked the same question to the retard
Summon druid in pd2 is the only satisfying summon arpg build
>>567035850spirit walker solves this
>>567035850minions should be deleted from all ARPGs
>>567030983>>567030409The problem is these retards put fucking ES on the tree and not just ES on the tree but made it way fucking better than any of the other 'defenses'.Like, their thought process makes no sense. I listened to part of the Q&A and Mark basically described it as this:>"We view ES as the same as Armor/EV and balance it that way, we don't view it as blue life"ARE YOU FUCKING RETARDED? IT IS BLUE LIFE. YOU LITERALLY PUT CI IN THE GAME. IF CI IS IN THE GAME, ES IS BLUE LIFE.You cannot balance Life vs ES when life builds realistically cap out at like 4k life and ES builds have 15k ES. It does not work. The EHP difference is too great. All of the defensive layers that life has, ES also has and they work better. 50% block is way better on 15k ES than it is on 4k life. Max res or armor or EV + Ghost dance is way better with 15k ES than life. They have not solved anything. If you KNOW players have ~4k life at the top end, boss damage can be finely tuned to make it clear if something is a 1 shot, 2 shot, 3 shot, etc. But since ES is so much larger you have to make attacks threaten them so you just get 1 shots on life builds.Realistically, CI has to be removed and ES on the tree has to be nerfed and every character will have to build life. That is the only way they can fix it if they want their current strategy to work. Of course, they don't want that, so it is time to just add life to the fucking tree. Them saying that they viewed ES as the same as Armor/EV really opened my eyes to how they just do not fucking get it.
>>567028761They will make a new tab retard.
you want CI being removed from the game? FUCK YOU!
time to replace energy shield with ward
>>567036921i like es but whoever was in charge of balancing it in poe2 fucked it up. it's fucked in poe1 too but that was after 10 years of powercreep so it doesn't really matter.old poe1 es could net you a blue life pool that mogged red life, but you need stun immunity, you needed ailment immunity, that stuff wasn't as ubiquitous as it is now so you needed to invest heavily and make sacrifices just for the build to be functional. poe2 has modern poe1 es qol so there is no reason not to use it.
>>567037409Yeah I recall people having to run eye of chayula and dream fragments just to not get fucked as CI back in the day, nowadays nobody even remembers them.
I'm going to beat all the pinnacles in SSF and there is NOTHING you can do about it
>>567037721good luck
>>567037939I don't need luck
>>567037721If it is anything like 0.2-0.4 then they'll be easy as fuck. I am curious if 0.5 will actually make the game harder.
una's lootbox
how do people make their own builds in poe1? i feel retareded theres so much shit that goes into making one. I just want to play a fireball elementalist.
>>567039323>copy someone's else pob>start customizing it>ehp and dps starts to get dogshit>back to step 1
>>567039421to poe.ninja i go then
More people like poo2 than 1
>>567040186there are 3 billion indians and chinamen alonethere are 1 billion white people
they obviusly made warrior animation a LOT faster righthttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1MHQmQXcbTEthat rolling slam at the end was a hell of a lot faster than what we have now
>>567040186If you listened to Jonathan's interview with LegendaryDrops, you'd know this wasn't the case.
>>567040396I didn't listen to it and I will not listen to it
knowledge is the thief of retardation
>>567039098i would unlock una's lootbox, if you know what i mean
>>567040186>popular = goodclassic poo2 logic, why don't you go play d4 then?
They just overhauled hollow mask for coop players for normies Oh god
Kino...
>>567040686d4 isn't popular or good
>>567040737>the aura bot is now the remnant bitch
>>567040741i fucking big guy in the floor bosses.every arpg gotta do the big guy in the floor. at this point i would rather fight a pair of fucking feet.
>>567040737original mask was an insane garbage
>>567040737>>567040626Why can't we just have shit like iron mass anymore.Who is designing this trash?
>>566994929NOOOTICE how everyone who has played d4 all say the same thing, it's fun.NOOOTICE how no one who has played poe2 said it's fun.hmmm
>>567040836nigger, d4 have the same popularity as poe2 and it's getting more players unlike poo1
>>567041041>d4 have the same popularity as poe2
>>567040626>-10% fire resistanceWhy even
>>567041115It's called soul, you wouldn't understand.
>>567041041>poo2>getting more playersLMAO>w-w-w-w-w-wait for 1.0KWABOTY
>>567040626>less than 500 eswhat a useless fucking item
>>567041283>>567041197
>>56704073715% pdr is bigly thoughbeitever
>>567041404it already had that stat
>>567040626This one will see some use. It's a lot of recovery overall. Cause it's a level 28 Unique. Higher level versions of it have a higher level skill, which in turn has a higher level requirement.>>567040737Hollow Mask will also actually see a bit of use since it's a level 1 Unique, same deal.But it will fall off hard past like Act 2 if you aren't group-playing.
>>567041283we had 590k in steam alone on launch but where they are now???>w-w-w-w-w-wait for 1.01.0 could bump this number but who cares if no one comes back when 1.1 drops?
>29thWHY SO LONGjust release it already....
Theyve made rolling slam cast twice as fast it seemsSunder too seems to be super fast now
>>567041545Nice, the PoEWonification of 2 continues.
>>567040378the devs use speedhacks, damagehacks and god mode when testing and showcasingaren't you excited they're spending 3 extra weeks testing the patch :)
Lmao wtf is jung cooking on his streamThis aint poe 2
>>567041859remember the ZiggyD druid gameplay? ahahah
If bow isn't meta I'm not playing
>>567040626>>567040737why are they giving them dogshit defenses? these cant be final right?
>>567042124amazon/ritualist Ice Shot, here you go
>>567042170they want you to use the new league mechanic to upgrade them
>every streamernigger leveling up different skills in the campaign>IS THIS THE BEST LEAGUE STARTER??????????????no, none of them are. this is not poe1, it doesn't matter how you level in poe2, I don't know a single skill that can't kill mobs fast and bosses in under 1 minute if you path correctly, use your currency and are not trying to be some speed running tranny.
>>567042298isnt the upgrading only for lower level uniques? both of those are require lvl 84
>>567042170>these cant be final right
the more you think about it, the more you realize that spectres are basically the only thing poe has going for it. if any actually good ARPG could nail the pokemon gameplay aspect it would be over
>>567042426God I wish grim dawn had specters.Actually isn't there a mod for that? I've seen it but tied up I think in the grim dawn community league thing and I'm not sure if I want to go there
>>567042345Did you watch the gameplay tho? It was just ridiculous
>>567042353Level 84 because of the implicit skill level, not because of the base type>>567042170Le leveling unique>>567041432Nta but i think it's even more bigly now with all the gimmicky shit going ok this league
>>567042353they're that high because of the skill, the mask is like a level 10 base
>>567042345>IS THIS THE BEST LEAGUE STARTER??????????????>patch notes not out yetnever watching such shit. it's just a bait.call me a boring sissy but I am always starting with something I am familiar with and know that is gonna be good on early budget and late game (after seeing patch notes) then I start experimenting on twinksTHAT'S BECAUSE THE FUCKIN CAMPAIGN SHITTY SLOG I DESPISE TO DO
>>567042471I mean if you like the gameplay fair enough, you could say something like>chill, dad gamer vibes buildor whatever, but to say best it just retarded. plus, many thing that work fine or even great in the campaign do not work well in maps at all.
>>567042614>b-b-but Fubgun said....
just started 0.4 this week, I know it was profitable and all but how could you stand just running this temple forever? I see the encounter in zones and half the time I skip it so as not to get any closer to having to go inside.
poe2 unironically ruined other arpgs for me. nothing feels as good which sucks because poe2 is unfinished.
>>567042931yea you just build up a portal 6 maps and then you can access your templeits so fucking dumb too the way they designed it; its like 100x more profitable than anything else in the game currentlycrazy how of all the things they did not talk about core temple implementation, probably not to piss off the div/hour trade sissys
this guythatdies guy is pretty based>constant pvp with other streamers>I'll get a world record tomorrow>my build is the best league starter>pay to see my youtube videos>pay to get coaching>pay to get whatever the fuckhe has a lot of viewers for a speed tranny as well, how did that happen
>>567043346>pvpThats the equivalent of lud = funny
Next league I'm going to run pure life. Full ES and EB with no MoM. I'll show you all it's viable.
⋯party in the tubby~
Builds that my hubby can play one armed while he's reaching around my back?
>>567022965I'd better listen to someone repeating "corgo is an evil dog" for 100 times, than to someone who answer every questions from retards in chat. Those kind of streamers are really unbearable to watch.
>>567022965he's evil
>>567022965>the guy that gave d4 a 9/10>the guy that got called out by quin69 of all people for being retarded for giving d4 a 9/10>poeg loves this guyhmm
>>567044241>poeg loves this guyIt's his discord troons astroturfing. They're so pathetic that they show posts from here to zaccie and alk in hopes of getting attention from them.
>>567028761this is so ass
>>567044241Lol nobody loves that guy here except his discord trannies
>>567044441>>567044541you many not like it, but this is what a true trvke reads like
im actually having fun in d4although crafting is super difficult compared to poe
nobody with a brain takes what blizzshills say seriously
are rogue/torments still a thing? I'm getting bored doing breach/beyond and shrines I just want to blast maps to pass time
>>567022965Nobody actually watches these guys it's just background noise while you lift, cook, jerk off to futa etc...
>see people playing twisters>looks fun>try it myself>it's dogshiteverysingletime
>>567047438>see people play minions>looks fun>try it myself>have to weaponswap every 2 seconds or else its shit every living secondfuck this shit im out where is my lightning arrow at
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO YOU'RE NOT ALLOWED TO MAKE VIDEOS ON THE INTERNET NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONLY I AM MY APPROVED INNER CIRCLE OF CONTENT CREATORS AND STREAMERS ARE ALLLOWED TO PUT OUT GUIDES NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO STOOOOOOOP IT RIGHT NOWBLOCK BLOCK BLOCK BLOCK BLOCK!!!!!!!!!!!1
>>567047715Why are they like this?
>>567047715i love this type of subtle seething, remembering how mad ziz was when some d4 fag was playing poo2 0.1 making build guides out of his viewers buildskino
>>567047715don't worry, already blocked that fag
>>567047927I really really REALLY dislike rob from the block but zizaran successfully bullying him out of poe2 is the most insane thing I've ever withnessed.how and why the fuck is he allowed to do that? poe community is so cucked my god. imagine allowing this vapid homosexual to be your voice and to represent you. fuck me.
>>567048079>rob from the block but zizaran successfully bullying him out of poe2good
>>567048079Who the fuck is rob from the block
>>567048079rob dared to invade on ziz's content turf, he didn't do required humiliation rituals and just began harvesting viwership, this could not stand, or else the rest of the bitches would get uppity, the alpha had to intervene
>>567048259some random fag that popped out from d4
>>567048259it's safe to say he is the biggest d4 cc along side woodland joe, rob has a bigger viewership because he does a lot of community events aka hands out gear and boosts his viewers.the guy is extremely slimy from an ethical perspective but he just wants to make money so how much can you really blame him.any poe fag that's not named zizaran quin and mathil would kill to have rob's audience and influence.
when are the patch notes?
>>56704859221st in 6 days
>>567048592who caresyou're still going to level with boneshatter if you play maces, still spark/oos for spells, still ed/contagion for chaos, still la for bows, still nades for xbows.
Why is Kripp dooming PoE 2 now?
>>567048727>why is kripp exposing gggbecause kripp is boys with bfr and he dislikes what jonatroon has done with poe2
>>567048727with the buffed jewels every build will look like this
>>567048716>you're still going to levelno? all the changes are in the endgame there's no reason to start a new character this leaguei'm playing standard league and seeing how to improve my old characters
>>567048727this is bait
>>567049264it's obviously for the memes because that node gives %liferetard
Are voices limited to one?
is ranged nerfed yet? I wanna try Huntress but it's boring if it's too easy...
>>567049564in your head? no
>>567048549just checked, he gets about 80k views per video lmao. Ziz must be malding
What is this Rob vs Lisping faggot drama? I cant find anything anywhere about this.
We'll fix ES by making it as shit as everything else
>>567048727Whats his argument i'm dumb
>>567050223That the passive tree is shit and jewels are the only thing that matters besides a few nodes
>>567047715>>567047927>>567048009>>567048052HEY DING DONG RETARD THE PATCH NOTES AREN'T OUT
>>567049883it was in 0.1 basically rob is a guy who asks his chat for gear openly, he did so for example just this league when he rerolled from warlock to barb.anyway, I remember he leveled a warrior and everyone knows warrior in 0.1, really slow with leap, not very tanky etc. so obviously his videos were kinda shit so he borrowed a full set of gear for a stat stacking legionnaire that was moving and clearing fast and started making videos.obviously it looked sus for him to get a full set of gear over night so zizaran said he rmt'd and started seething on xwitter and just in general being an insufferable cunt about the whole thing.then rob came out with a video explaining it was not rmt that he borrowed that gear from a friend to make videos. zizaran didn't even say sorry for slandering him and rob kinda just stopped playing poe2 all together because of this and when zizaran got questioned about bullying and accusing rob with no proof he said that he's is happy rob is no longer involved with poe2 cuz he doesn't want his kinda of cc in the community.everyone just kinda went along with it and no one challenged him on his shitty behavior.fin.
>>567047715But it's literally the devs who are posting builds.
>>567050372i just hate ziz
I have 2 spare PoE2 keys, do any sites like G2A or something still exist that I can sell them on or have they all banned "retail investors"?
Assuming plants won't get nerfed, which is the best class for it? Bloodmage? Disciple? Shaman?
>>567050068That's basically what Mark said in the reveal livestream.
>>567050068ES is fundamentally better than everything else so it stands to reason that even nerfed it'll be above the rest.
poe2 passive tree is so retarded so you can be more brainded by abusing adorned and it wll be much better than complex pathing to shit like 5% increased poop damage
Any kind of scaling that isn't gear must go, also your build is preset because the skill is bound to a weapon so you can't get crazy
>>567052278True, they should just delete the tree and give us jewel sockets.
>>567050551more shit towards rob goes way back when he sucked elon's cock in d4nobody likes the faggot
>>567052454rob was playing d4 with elon before poe2 released and you're forgetting how everyone was slurping elon's cock when he started playing and twitting about poe2.of course that all changed later when we found out he was a hack fraud but let's not pretend like elon playing poe2 was bad for the game.
will shield wall get giga nerfed or just slightly tuned down?
>>567053483Neither. It will be bug fixed to do intended amount of damage (about double of resonating shield)
it's time to renerf maces and slams
>>567053781current state of energy shield is problematic. so warrior will be nerfed
I new the game was dead when they killed supercharged slam
>>567053483carn was saying that they will more than likely nerf the numbers on the skill gem because they are adding new shield bases and the numbers on shields in general will be much higher so it will even out, potentially making shield wall a bit worse but def not unplayable
>tourist grifters crawl back to PoE2>start seething at about the game and it's genuine fans & content creatorsLike clockwork.
>>567054393that was like what 2 days into EA or smth? and they never bothered making it good ever again.classic niGGGers
>>567054632a real (trans) person wrote this
>>567054632many MANY women are saying this
I hope 3rd druid asc will be more melee oriented
how common is it to follow a guide for a build in these gamesit seems dishonest and feels like a betrayal of a core point of the genre and like im a total NPC for doing it but theres so much information being airdropped onto me at any given time
>>567055253The 3rd druid ascendancy will be the removed plant monster>>567055323>how common is it to follow a guide for a build in these gamesExtremely, but you should just play and approach the game any way you like, whether that's with comprehensive guide use, using them just for inspiration, or freestyling.The game has complex and sometimes unintuitive mechanics and guides can save you hours of experimenting and research, which is a positive or a negative depending on how much you like pain and discovery.Just do what feels good.
>>567055323The core point of the genre is killing monsters and improving your characterWhether you do it with or without a guide, SSF or hardcore, etc etc, are all irrelevant. Play the game if you like killing monsters and getting loot, thats it
Stash tab weekend sale currentlyWhich tabs do i need for 0.5?
>>567055862Trade, fragment and currencyAnything else is nice to have but ultimately window dressing
>>567055952I think if you don't know that you want a fragment tab then you can probably skip it.
>>567055862Socket for sure, you know 6 millions new runes and shit
>>567055584the point of the game is creating your own build and making decisions to that end>muh l00tzgo back to borderlands, tranny
Why do zoomers and reddit love poe2 so much?
>>567057634I'm sorry you don't "get" arpgs.
>>567057634>>muh l00tz>he doesnt know items and item hunt was the #1 design pillar that they made the game aroundKek
>>567057634Reminder the entire playerbase of PoE2 thought 0.4 was the worst league of all time until they added tinks every second to temple then it became the best.
>>567057634This genre isn't for you lil gupgup
>>567058291this didn't happen
>>567058291It was still the worst league of all time after.
>>567058291For good reason. They made the temple so fucking boring, people already forgot how many people just said nope to that mechanic after trying it a couple times before the snaking bullshit was found outI cant believe they're implementing temple as is and just remove the snaking shit. Almost noone will be running that turd
>>567058325t. d4 dadgamer
>>5670582910.4 was the worst league of all time solely because it was the current PoE2 league, making it the worst league of all time by default.
wasnt there supposed to be a new breach stash tab?
>>567058898Das rite!
>snooGOAT levels and plays twisters for every league since 0.2>some speedrunners steal all his tech and pawn it off as if it were their own discoveries>suddenly start shilling twisters to anyone thats its the #1 build for leveling fast >zero credit given to the original inventor and guy who played it for 3 leagues in a row
>>567059204
Are servers being shit on right now?
>>567059516Yeah, I don't see it in the store to take advantage of the sale
Man the forums are clown fiesta right now. I never seen such shit since temple nerf
>>567033782"POO much time here" surely?
>>567059757they never have new tabs for sale before releaseyou need to buy that goodgoy pack and use the goodgoy points to pay full price thanks for supporting this small india company their dad's garage
>>567059757breach tab never existed in poe2
>poe2 is all about creating new problems and selling the solutionsjonathan..i apologize, i now see the vision
Should I buy Breach tab in PoE 1 and hope they carry it over to PoE 2? They haven’t said anything about Breach tab
the pure, raw seethe leading up to release is so entertaining. Usually we only get a week of it but jonathan has blessed us with 3.
what has fundamentally changed in the end game? we're still doing the infinite atlasthe only real change was made in 0.3 when they completely removed towers from the equation.0.5 bring nothing to the end game core system, joanthan sold you all another lie.
>>567060125there isnt any in poo1
>>567060092at least it's not a battle pass... Man I can imagine they could drop this shit in 1.0
>>567060327At first I thought about giving you a serious answer, but you must be out of your mind if you seriously think that removing the towers was more significant than what they’re doing now.
>>567060416poe1 has a battle pass though? are you seriously considering that they won't implement it in 1.0?really?
>>567060516That thing is so fucking useless that I forget it even exists.
>>567060487removing towers completely changed how people interacted with atlas maps, how to make them give better loot, how you moved through maps, search for optimal tower setups etc.sorry to say but your delusional
>>567060516I never played poe1 tho xD
i sincerely hope the endgame has more stuff nowa better aim
>>567060327The difference is that before you were unlocking all your atlas stuff in the infinite atlas but now you're in the storylines part of the atlas until you've unlocked whatever you wanted to unlock. It's the same shit after that point.I think too many people were just quitting a couple of tiers into mapping because it seemed pointless but now it should feel more like there's still content for those people.
>>567060327>full atlas tree>atlas "ascendancies" that you can freely spec into>infinite atlas now starts out hand crafted with set locations for everything>fortress is basically poe 1's atlas and where you earn your points instead of rng corruption areas>every league mechanic now has a questline to give players clear defined goals>every mechanic has revamped loot and pinnacle bosses>every mechanic evolves on the atlas itself and is how you progress towards said encounters, like hive fortresses>sailbooks seem like delve 2.0 and will be a lot of funthis is just off the top off my head. If these aren't fundamental changes to how you interact with the atlas or how you progress endgame then I'm not sure what would be in your eyes.Yes, you still click on nodes and run maps. That is never going to change
>Whole endgame is basically just Delve (the best mechanic ever added to PoE)>People don't like it???>>567060894>fortress is basically poe 1's atlasI hadn’t thought of it that way. That actually makes it much better than I thought.
fortress?
i want to theorycraft NOWgib patch notes NOW
>>567061043they basically took the first games atlas, walled it off into quadrants, and made it so that instead of each map giving an atlas point a boss encounter in that section would. And you can skip right to the boss for all of the points if you want.>>567061440a new section of the map where you'll earn all of your atlas points and progress towards the new pinnacle encounter.
>>567061043delve fucking sucksas did tota
>>567061043I don't think it's like delve at all.
>>567061548is there any good demonform builds? I only played demonform hexblast in 0.1 kekw
1 GAME 2 CAMPAIGNS
>>567061614They literally said "it's like Delve" during the Q&A
I really want to like poe but as soon as i get to endgame im completely lostI dont know which mechanic to play to get better gearI dont know what items i need to craft them myselfI dont have a problem with rng and stuff, but a bit of handholding would be nice
1 peepee2 poopoos
>>567061686It's not though.
>>567040626>free +300% More spell damage for Infernalists>free immortality for RitualistsWhy is this allowed?
>steel went for the ziz lookstate
>>567061686They said the Infinite Atlas as a whole was like Delve tooGuess what's not like Delve
>>567061785>>567062065We are literally getting fractured walls in the ocean section of the atlas...
S O F T
>>567062186I don't think you "get" delve.
>>567040626thoughts?
Confess your /poeg/ sinsI attach FREE to every post to make Freeposter come back, but it never works...
>>567062419Unironically goated unless they nerf it to hellI saw someone mentioning this combo on reddit with amazon stalking panther and i instantly said yes. Unless they nerf this belt thats what im going
>>567062186pointless and boring without the darkness bearing down on you
>>567023104its evil
>>567047715Making "top builds" videos before the patch notes are out is a telltale sign of retardation and grifter behavior.
>>567063131Getting worked up about them is actually the real sign of retardation and grifter behaviour
>>567043189play Titan Quest 2, it's equally good to play and equally unfinished
>>567063318>defending "content creators" and streamersRelying on people to tell you what your opinion should be about anything is cringe.
when is scourge coming back
>>567063645
>>567061864homosexual?
>>567063597Replied to wrong guy?
>>567063748Not really. You replied to me first. I gave you another response.
>>567063731
>>567063818Oh okay. You replied with a complete non-sequtiur
>>567063872ZIZZERS?? OUR RESPONSE??
>>567063901ESL by any chance?
>>567063956Yes, thankfully
>>567064045Makes sense. Good luck with your reading comprehension and context clues moving forward.
Any BIG news?
what kind of gremlin uses the poe2 official forums unironically?
>>567064242steamies and r*ddit
>>567064079What context clues? Let me give you the context2 content creators were beefingYou were getting worked up about one of themI said why the fuck do you careAnd you respond that I am defending content creators and rely on their opinionsWhat clue there did I miss where your response would make any sense?
>>567063872post-partum depression
>>567064695You're making a lot of assumptions. You know what they say about assumptions? You're making an "ass" out of "u" and "me" whenever you assume something.
>>567062524>unless they nerf it to hell
whats fub playing in 0.5
>>567064806It would still not come even close to ES or the shit blood mage is doing
>>567065050so?
Why cant i play a blood mage demon form with minionsWhy are you not letting me play that
I'm dreading running the PoE 2 campaign again
>>567065310Same. That and the fucking Ascendancy trials.
>>567065401>>567065310
im probably not running djinn im not liking the fact that the main scale option for it is to run multiple and max amount of minions and that scales your damage for your commands i wanted to run it as a pure spell caster oh well ill try a plants verashta run for a week and see how that goes
I just want a 0-2 button comfy build that does uber ubers and pinnacle bosses with ease
>>567065665a biological woman posted this
>>567065401The trials aren't too bad. I wait until I'm giga overleveled though
>>567065950First and second are fine. Third and fourth are ass.
For me it's EDC then quitting because the breach shield ends up being unusable garbage
>>567065310just follow the sign posts
>>567047715blblblbl
hate bring minions, gonna play anything else
minions are class
Minion RF is a bait meme
>>567047715I remember in 0.1 new content creators making tier list on ascendencies or was it skills and it's all pretty badfun times
>>567067103I miss my 3.19 baron helmet necro zooo
>>567047715>>567063131yh hes basically saying that and or they dont know wtf they are doing/noob because they dont know how important patch notes are to builds
fun tier listS>quarterstaves/hollow palm>talisman (wolf)A>crossbows>spears (melee)>spells (cast on crit/cast on hit)B>talisman (others)>spears (ranged)>djinnsC>maces (shield skills)>bowsD>spells (manually picking up infusions)F>maces (non-shield skills)>non-djinn minions
>>567067338At least we got Puppeteer for two meme leagues (it was shit)
>>567004885>smokie_777zased, what does this creature look like
>>567067379>wolf>S tierwyvern would like a word
>>567067379>melee over rangedyou sure you're talking about the right game?
Will Pekora be playing 0.5?
>>567067545My trample toe reap bloodmancer was clearing screens with just pressing left click once or twice.
Imagine being named Ass Madi
>>567067379This is bait
>>567067526enjoy your 6k max phys hit xir
Can anyone play maps in PoE 2?
>>567068042you really dont know do you
>>567068042what's with the ugly font
i didnt know sarge was such an edgelord dramalord is the just the white cutedog or what? never watched his streams before
>>567068042>brownoid with his shit font modtale as old as time
Lilysisters
>>567068658What happened
>>567068042>not using the diablo 2 font ngmi
>>567069064It might be close to over
>>567068042Enjoy your boring gameplay loop, xir
>>567069064They found out "she" is a man
lily is on of now
which input method do you guys prefer? wasd, click to move or controller?
jrv buckbroke this general into irrelevancy
>>567069931Wasd is giga comf
>>567069931WASD now, i hate that poe1 doesnt have it after playing it in poe2
used to hate wasd but it's good after you get used to itgoing back to point and click is more annoying
People pick pathfinder and click 4 nodes that basically only give you -50% movement speed penalty while using skillsLike thats basically it, 4 points for that
is it true that the interludes are better than the campaign?
>>567061548>>567061637demon form is cool but i want an infernal flame build
>>567069931If you use a controller for any game, you're a faggot. Easy as.
>>567070116many are saying this.
>>567047715>No patch notes>Make build guides with 0 knowledge.Do you trust a self-proclaimed tour guide who takes you to a previously unexplored jungle?
>>567061637you can run pretty much anything on demon form now when they added that you keep your focus and weapon stats when you switch it was the biggest issue demon form had as you had to wait for demon form to ramp when entering maps it was literally waiting 60 seconds every time so literally anything with spells
>>567069931controller is the only way to make poo2 palatable
>>567070902based fighting-game keybaord player
>>567069931joystick
pass the controller please saar
>>567071887He had some ridiculous campaign build earlier today i believe it was minions
>>567071663this could be the next stage in evolution, if only we culled people for being bad at games
>>567069931Controller for both games. Max comfy
>>567068042How do you get so much armor? Is this rage stacking?
>jungroan playing build before league start and being loud about it (Varashta)hahaits over for my starter i need to play bleed ritualist or smth
>>567066053>Captain America but you need ward and it relies on chilled ground pops or somethingRough
>>567068410>>567068649>>567069136whats wrong with lil gups font? not using the god font Times New Roman
>>567065310>>567065401Honestly, I've gotten pretty good at just holding down W with the shittiest builds imaginable so I doubt it's going to be a problem. I've also gotten better at trials but I'm ngl the boss fights are still some big ass I don't like dealing with>Tornado Bird is a run ender on trials of chaos>None of the Sekhema bosses are fair if you have shit DPS
>>567072849false alarm its minion pathfinder spectres, everything is ok not my fault i dont watch ecelebs
>>567072849It's quite annoying how prone GGG is to nerfing that stuff huh. Guess it's back to old reliable (EDC)
I'll play the ds_lily build
>>567072849This happens every league when he does this pre launch showcase. I wouldn't be surprised if there is some GGG intern who gets paid to watch his streams
>>567072321There are easier ways to let the world know you're a faggot.
>lily is still the only female PoE streamerWhy? Where is the next generation? And how old is she? She still looks so young where the other ancient male streamers have boomer tier face and body now
>>567073806>He can't throw his legs up on the desk while reclining in his Herman Miller ngmi
>>567073928I'm guessing she's in her mid 30s. The beans must make her skin look so good
>>567073928zoomers play gachas, bro
>>567073806
I miss lore mommy
You are sitting next to Jonathan Rogers, only 3 words, what would you say to him
>>567075102give me minions
>>567073806ok christine
>>567075102Fuck you, nigger.
>>567070325it's worth it
>>567075102I love you!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f_YjBTYHhug
>>567075728>6 years ago
>>567075102>build>back>better
>>567070325Can't die if you don't get hit. Can't get hit if you're somewhere else.
>>567075102remove magic find
Before you say 60 hours every 2 months is little, remember that translates to an hour a day
JONATROON
build infusions spend thembuild plants water thembuild charges spend them
>>567073973tfw the seat on my HM is getting wobbly
>>567075102Ew, you stink!
so which 0.5 mechanic did jonathan code? im printing early this time
How exactly do bleed and poison work with multiple hits? Let’s say I hit the enemy three times: first was low dmg, second was high dmg, and third was low dmg again. Will they take bleed from the strongest hit, the first one, or the last one?
>>567076420>Wanting to play that slop every single dayFuck off.
>>567077039Bleed is always calculated from the highest numerical bleed at the time yeah, as for poison it's the highest up to your cap limit, so at a cap limit of 3 all 3 but at 2 only the two highest poisons.
i know barely anything about endgame or craftingyet im thinking of going ssf to learn ithow fucked am it. actual brainlet
>>567077375It basically keeps track of all the poisons and bleeds you’ve applied, but only the strongest one have an effect, right?
>>567077508You'll figure out as you go anon
>>567077508>i dont know how to swim so ill go to the middle of the ocean alone to learn it>how fucked am i?
>>567076979He said he did most of the atlas boating
>>567077508you'll learn a lot faster using the currency exchange instead of having to handfarm every abyss rib
>>567075102poopofexcrement
poop 2it's more than poop 1
>>566990606>no ventrua on the epic pictureits over ventruabros...
>>567075102Is lily single?
>>567077657Yes pretty much
>>567078430"No."
>>567078362Dudes career went down the shitter after PoE 2Many such cases
I miss Grimro
>>567079048Why? Fubgun is objectively better, plus he's POC
When will the next poe 1 league be released? I doubt GGG will hold onto their 4 month release schedule.
>>567079468I only support white males.
>>567078478Based Jonathan
>>567079504October, right before Exilecon so all streamers are too busy to play it.
>>567079504Probably at the beginning of August. Then they'll poop out 1 more league before Christmas.
>>567079564Why? Are you racist?
>>567080182Yes.
>>567080182many are doing this
Rue is shitting all over the spirit walker, says why the fuck are GGG making these gimmick ascendancies
>>567080339i thought rue was le depressed and was going to stop streaming
>>567080339every poe2 ascendancy is a gimmick
>>567080182Yes
I only play unascended autoattacks with 0 gems
>>567080339gimmicky ascendancies are faar more interesting than boring +stats
>>567073020
>>567072849>>jungroan playing build before league start and being loud about it (Varashta)hes doing this because i posted about it in here fuck you faggot i know you lurk you korean build stealing bitch
>>567081243can you change fonts in the game??
>>567081491raped
>>567081491I hate every single streamer and/or content creator that makes build videos. It always fucks with the economy or leads to nerfs. Why can't they just shut the fuck up and play?
>>567081614retard
>>567081614Thats how they feed they family
>>567081548yeah its to do with your own pc font and registry so the game copies the font your pc uses so if you use the diablo 2 font for your pc in turn poe will use that same font theres videos on it and its not something you get banned for either
>>567081614>N-no mr. streamerman, please don't tell people about <build that's so fucking obvious since there's no real build choices>Raped, defiled, molested even
>>566995892They're shitter crybabies who can't into loot filter or game design.
>>567082059retard
>>567081804thats cool! and can i have said link? asking for a friend
>>567076420>remember who I ama closeted homo?>60-80 hours in 2 monthswhy is he lying?
i dont want to play skeletons as Varashta though........
>>567083256Nobody is forcing you to do that anon. You're a strong independent woman
>>567076420who even is this retard and why do people keep posting twitter screenshots of him here? why the fuck should anyone care? according to the screencap, he doesn't even play the game
>>567015830>>567015653I literally self-built a wyvern-only run up to T15 maps on current league at league start. And I built it like an absolute retard, just taking increased % damage while shapeshifted, + elect damage and using the base wing attack + electro breat, both of which hit like fucking trucks. How are you retards so bad at this game? self-reporting like this should result in a /general/ ban...
>>567083429he's a lolcow
>>567083256>i dont want to play skeletonswhat the fuck
>>567082893there is no link, its just following a youtube guide for example and changing your pc font to what you want the game to run it as i dont do it, ive been considering the d2 font ive seen plenty of streamers do it like cutedog for example does it and its completely fine
>>567083429He's the reason PoE 2 even exists to begin with. When nobody cared about PoE 2 he made vids about it for years
>>567081243would dropping a mirror change the amount of excitement if the font is different for you?
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
>>567083767no also i hope the new sf movie is better than mk2 because that shit sucked compared to the first film
>>567076420>Only 60-80 hours over two monthsI clock in nearly a hundred around the first two weeks. Are my opinions HARDER than his?
>>566991115poo2 is unplayable on HDD, it sucks major dick.
>>567083708>when nobody cared about PoE 2>made back its entire development budget the day it launcheduh huh
>>567036921The balance is off, but not as off as midwit autists like this will try to convince you.
>>567084305it is insanely retardedly off. it could not be more off. Mark was sharing his shock and embarrassment at how shit everything else was during the QA and how massively better EV is as soon as you add any ES. shut the fuck up.
>>567084305This. you can easily spot the little crybabies that have never touched high-AR / EV builds because their God-Daddy streamer told them "ES = GUD"
>>567084691>2 def layers is better than 1(You) dont say faggot... Try high-end AR only vs high-ES only on 0.4 and come back to me about which one is the strongest.
>>567083926my favourite vtuber loves that book
>>567085098>2 def layers is better than 1Unless it's AR/EV.
>>567084861ANYONE who plays the game knows ES is a hundred times better, the only other "decent" defense layers are sorcery ward and titan devoting 70% of their build to armour nodes. defenses have been in a horrible embarrassing balance state for the past 1.5 years you have to be a complete non-player to think otherwise.
>>567084861they are too hyperfixated on streamers, poeninja and div/h. anything that is slightly weaker is basically non-existant to them
>>567085212>ofc he didnt play AR in 0.4I accept your concession nigger. Keep living in the past
>>567085201or ES/AReven ES/EV is carried entirely by ghost dance, turn it off and you can see how well it competes with a 14k ES build
>>567085201yeah this one is pretty fucked not gonna lie.
>>567085416>muh 80k AR titanNOBODY CARES FAGGOT
>>567085579fr fr bussin on god bet
>>567085492>ES/ARnah (You) just bad. 5K Es + 30k AR(60k vs elem) when Barkskin is procced can tank anything
>>567085579>defenses are actually balanced hehe>no not that one>ok not that one>not that one eithershut the FUCK UP
>>567085976only AR + EV is lackluster. Any other combo is like 10% diff at most from the extrems. And full AR reigns supreme. Stop self-reporting your faggotry
buff bases, nerf affixes.
>>567085963these are literally made up numbers how the fuck are you getting 5k ES and 200% armour applies to elemental? and you dont even know what barkskin does or you'd be embarrassed to even be mentioning it.
>>567086137>10% diff at most??????????? 10% of WHAT????
>>567086182here is a leddit showcase on T16 nigger (and not a BiS or even very good one): https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile2builds/comments/1pwbkhy/extremely_tanky_armour_energy_shield_showcase/stop self-reporting I said.
buff women with spears and bucklers
>>567085963>>567086137In their interview right after the reveal they straight up singled out AR/ES as the worst possible defensive option in the game right now. It's apparently dying around 3x as much as anyone else, second worst was AR/EV. Barkskin is dogshit, the keystones are dogshit, and the inherent mechanics don't work as well together as EV/ES do.
>>567086149>Boost baseline player powerNo.
>>567086425thanks for googling that horrible zdps reddit showcase for me, makes it clear to everyone you're a know-nothing dumbfuck
>>567086781probably because most people building it are retards that dont even go CI and get raped by chaos damage. AR+ES is fundamentally more synergystic than AR+EV.
>>567087083>"o-ok it's tanky b-but... n-no, not like this!"I accept your concession niggerfaggot.
Ward + ES will be way better than Armor + ES.>Lets you go without CI, cause your Ward will soak the Chaos damage>Now the occasional 15k damage hit won't kill you cause you have around 20k total (ES, Life, and Ward)
>>567087085Going full ES with CI and getting armor on the tree like varashta can do is the absolute tankiest you can get
>>567084861The chorus would change if major streamers covered it.
>>567087494I still find Varashta fucking hilarious.>Hey, here's a pseudo-summon class!>Oh also, it's one of the tankiest classes in the game and the Summon nodes are actually the worst part of the Ascendancy! (Still good, but like yeah)
>>567087258if that performance in a 0% extra damage map looks "tanky" to you, you are a dumpster toilet noob.
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>567087903Learn the layouts or get used to it.There's only like 3 Qimah layouts currently.Left, right, and far right.
>>567088040>>567087903>Learn layouts>They outright tell you to not bother since they're changing itLole
>>567088383I have a feeling the overflow won't work with that chest
>>567087797way to out yourself as a streamer dickrider! I bet (You) wont even play next league before a week haha the absolute state of /poeg/ kek
>>567088673izzat PRESERVED
>>567088579You're giving up prolly 2 of the best slots in the game (considering HH and megablood will enter soon) I dont think theres any reason to nerf this
Gonna raw dog league start. Literally going to decide on the character select screen. Might get baited into spells again. I really want to make a lightning warp build work where I'm just zipping around culling packs and blowing up rares with some big lightning deeps. But also I've never played demon form infernalist. Fuck dude fuuuuuck what am I gonna do.
>>567088736>"izzat PRESERVED"(You) are fooling no one, Apu. now swear that Ganesh and Vishnu are bloody bastard benchods and maybe we will let it slip this time...
>>567088383Anon why run Azmeri brew when you can run this on a Shaman, grab zealous oath, and have maximum ES?
>>567088383Why bother doing all of this when you'll just get one shot? This is a bunch of investment to essentially get ~1500 ehp/sec regen from everything listed here.
>>567087903>Going along the bottom pathRookie Mistake.Tangent:I FUCKING HATE INTERLUDES I FUCKING HATE INTERLUDES WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH GGG REEEEEEE
>league start varashta>pivot into raven staff depending on its rarityI have a feeling it's going to be fairly expensive on hardcore because people are going to be hesitant to throw their characters at new bosses
>>567089297Theres already a belt that give you zealots oath effect (Shavronnes satchel)
>>567088383And how are ya gonna go about wearing 2 Belts?
>>567087085AR+ES with CI is like outright raping a solid third of your total hit pool just so you can avoid spoopy avoidable chaos damage. If you're druid you may as well invest in chaos res with how far away CI is or just full commit to ES. Druid (Shaman) has great mitigation anyway.>>567085963>>567086425This guy had 20k armor at the most against elemental. Still rather decent tankyness but you're absolutely ignoring Shaman's free damage resistance nodes. I'm fairly certain Barkskin did almost nothing for this guy
>>567089636Running a unique belt kind of kneecaps your potential though, since these usually aren't well-modded and you'd replace them fast with the BiS you can get (headhunter, magie, etc)
>>567090586headhunter and mageblood aren't a consideration for 99% of players when planning or playing a build
>>567090586Every belt sucks in the game besides headhunter right now and possibly mageblood laterIf you can squeeze any value what so ever from the belt slot you're in a good place
>>567090586>>567090795mageblood is going to be midtier at best, you know it deep down
>replace them fast with... headhunterLol
>>567091140RMT self report
>>567090936its a divine sink i have a feeling you are going to want specific rolls on it like the shrine belt, maybe its a extra support gem belt maybe it allows another charm or amulet or ring who knows its something powerful because they laughed and said it was crazy in the interview when it was mentioned
i'mma headhunt that booty of yours
>>567091598It'll be a divine sink like ventors gamble or grace of the goddess, not multiple variations
>>567091803i dont think thats a divine sink
>>567091870Because those items drop commonly enough that people dont bother diving them and just hope they unid a good rollMegablood will be gigarare
>>567091976but the temple vaal stuff now exists i dont think people would divine sink that much when you can double corrupt
>>567091870>Item to bait people into using their <resource>>Not a <resource> sinkWhat do you qualify as a Divine sink then?
>>567091976Don't even bother.
>>567091870I think Ventors was the original divine sink, I remember them saying something about it when it released. Loot wasn't as common as it is today, and that was before the divine/exalt swap.
>>567092192something that drops the divine in value to the exalt/chaos orb
Zaccie here. None of you have guessed anything close to what Mageblood does
>>567048727Cluster jewels at home
>>567092415Did we ask? fuck off.
Magetub
>>567092329Doesn't a divine sink raise the value as it craters divine orb supply?
>>567092549Just trying to help you retards
>>567092764>something that drops the divine in value
Like I said, don't bother. He will act retarded indefinitely to prolong the convo.
oh oh melty
>>567092902But as the supply dwindles the divine is more expensive relative to chaos and exalt, thereby raising the value?
>>567093498yeah thats the point of a sink, maybe i worded it incorrectly its so a vaal temple divine economy doesnt occur again
They removed delay from mace skills, screencap this
>>567063336i really like it im just not a fan of the current classes so im waiting for the new one.
>>567093673Oh I see, my bad for misunderstanding. Considering temple is still in the game I don't doubt there's going to be infinity divines somewhere
>>567094246They explicitly said they killed the snaking strat, so temple should be way more reasonable now.
Divines in poe 2 shouldn't be all that expensive relative to their rarity in the current game. It's the community falsely placing value on them because that's how the economy in the first game works. There aren't enough items that need a bunch of divines to roll. There are no bench crafts. They're just labelled the expensive trading currency.I also wish GGG would replace exalts with chaos as the default buyout price on the trade site.
>>567048727i fucking hate cluster jewels but i prefer them over this dogshit passive tree
Overhaul the whole tree. Everything should be cluster jewels.
>>567094152he turns into pyrocynical?
>>567094821Imagine if in PoE2, they made some deadzones around various highway Jewel sockets and socketing a Cluster Jewel adds entire clusters of nodes and paths 'n shit the way that Oracle does.
>>567094152She so fucking hot holy shit
>>567095168You know what would be even better? What if you inserted a jewel and it replaced all the nearby nodes with different ones?
>>567094569They're dummy rare so it works as a convenience, blame GGG. Would you prefer the annul orb economy?
>>567095438annuls are more useful in poe 2 so if the first games economy didn't exist they probably would have ended up as one of the larger trade currencies.
