Riding the Pine editionPrevious Thread: >>533270624A thread for all vehicle simulation games: racing sims, flight sims, train sims, submarine sims, tank sims, anything else sims which do not have enough traffic to sustain their own independent generals.>Extra attention grabbing search terms for example welcome sims/fsg/ /dcsg/ /fsxg/ /bmsg/ /shg/ /rofg/ /etsg/ /il2g/ /lfsg/ /tsg/ /nog/>OP Pastebinhttps://pastebin.com/TxxE74ja>Planefag pastebin:https://rentry.co/simg>Tankfag pastebin:http://pastebin.com/EbdtnyPX>Boat- and subfag pastebinhttp://pastebin.com/JqTQWFFE >Repository of various aviation related material:https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B3EQDvufMNdeTUh4SE9WV0txa0E&usp=drive_web>Example of welcome simsFalcon BMS, DCS World, Rise of Flight, IL-2, Combat Helo, Microsoft Flight Simulator, X-Plane, Euro Truck Sim, Assetto Corsa, rFactor 2, Live for Speed, SAM Simulator, Steel Beasts Pro, Steel Armor: Blaze of War, Steel Fury: Kharkov 1942, Enemy Engaged: Comanche vs Hokum, Silent Hunter, Dangerous Waters, Train Simulator, Farming Simulator 201X, OMSI 2, DiRT: Rally, Ship Simulator, NoLimits2, Nuclear Option>Example of non-welcome games:Arm*, Ac* C*mbat, W*r Th*nder, W*rld of _____, The S*ms, S*m C*ty, G*at S*mulat*r
>>536100684REAL previous thread: >>53479080
Introduction of the mig 29https://youtu.be/5JXAVMhtjMI
>>536100684Actual REAL previous thread: >>534790801
>>536102524The external 3d modeling looks the same as the FC3. Internal cockpit looks a bit better. Unironically not worth buying if you already have FC.
>>536102938You had one job
WHEN
>>536107772Your sins must be very great if God sent a punishment like me to make your thread.
Well?
>>536110871Yor-38 Forger
1.Would you recommend starting MSFS2024 career in one of the cities from yesterday's city update? I'm eyeing Kiel or Bremen.2.Also, do I get the update by just choosing it off the marketplace and leave it on stream, or must it be downloaded?3. do you play live with multiplayer? or custom weather?
>>5361147261. You can do, they'll look nice2. You can leave it on stream3. I turn multiplayer off but us the AI traffic and always fly with live weather.
>>536110640I hate the antichrist
>>536122161https://youtu.be/Cjj_5DK-rU4
Recently found out that my cunt's navy uses Virtual Sailor NG as the official trainer. This setup is plywood, a few tvs, 2 gaming pcs, and every controller is 3D printed for some reason.
>>536124926>for some reasonIt's cheaper
DC-3 practise, I'm not very good at flying this.
>>536128342The navy would have access to a real ship wheel and levers, or money for some sim controllers. Instead they went for flimsy printed throttle devices and a tiny helm printed in 4 pieces because of the tiny printing bed. They are already probably running all simulators around the country off the same $40 key
>>536136474>real ship wheel and leversUseless in a simulator
Which airport should I choose for career in msfs2024? Thinking somewhere in Alaska may have interesting scenery. Or norway, maybe I get to see the fjords
>>536110871Mirage F1
>>536144805>norwaysvalbard
Looking at a headtracking setup. Worth getting a TrackIR or will something like the delanclip be good enough?
>>536144805>nokoDoesn't work anymore
xploring kaukasus
When the fuck are they doing a sale on 2024? I don't want to pay 80€ for a game
Want to graduate from the cesna 172, what would be the smart move forward? Looking into getting on fast/long range jets eventually.
>>536132620Just send it, bro. Make sure you turn on the superchargers.
>>536144805KSDL
>>536160574beech baronand/or king air
What are some good games that give me direct control over a ship/boat? Not giving an AI suggestions, but controlling the systems myself.
>bottom of page 10 again
>>536160574>muh beechcraftif you want a twin that's actually fun to fly, try picrel. light jet trainers are full of sovl too.
>>536160574MSFS? You could give the Tecnam P2006T or the Mitsubishi MU–2 a try. If you choose a jet trainer the MB-339 and the Hawk are great. If you want to try out the M-346 just be sure to pirate it.
>>536110871Double Flogger
>>536166473command modern operations but you have to turn everything on to manual. that's what I do.
>>536166473How many missiles do those fucks get anyway ? How long would i have to run circles around them until they're dry ?
>>536144805KLAL
After using the turtlebeach velocity one a bit, i fucking hate it. It may be ok for some casual MFS stuff, but its almost unusable in a combat sim, or anything where you need to make fine adjustments.Its hard and the range is very small, it fucking sucks.
Where is my fucking update
trying to resist the sim boomer urge to give ED more money.it's that thing where you know it's a scam but can't help but go along anyway because it almost seems to stupid to be real, like someone picking your pockets mid-conversation in broad daylight.the russians seem to be much better at that than they are at actual game dev.
>>536110516LONDONONDON
>>536212181It's useless, it's going to be in early access for the next 10 years, has no interesting armaments nor will it have any decent campaigns. It's literally going to be abandonware, mogged by the meta of SPAMRAAM.
>>536224608the only decent argument for it is rounding out redfor pvp, where it already exists in lower fidelity and will be absolutely fucked by the modern blufor meta.this will only get shittier with eurofucker and f35.it's so transparent at this point that the only thing ED actually gives a shit about is taking your money
>>536207090Which one?I have the stick and it’s only OK, never tried the flight deck
>>536225930based
VV like it's Sarajevo
>>536226727Yeah the stick. I fucking hate it. But its probably not helped by the fact that i'm used to play with my virpil stick with 20cm extension.Currently considering a new FFB base, but i barely play sim shit these days ...
>>536226712>eurofucker and f35.From what a friend told me the EF is purposefully delayed by HB for some reasons and the f35 imho will just be a meme.
DCS but instead of becoming the "everything simulator" for all planes from the P-47 to the F-35 and all places from Nevada to Syria, it remained permanently in the setting Flanker 2.0 and built a fully featured game around a US vs Russia over eastern europe.
>>536244529That's just Bizarro-BMS, what you described.
>>536244529Also, only homosexuals care about fighting Russia, straight White men want to fight India and israel.
>>536245948*indiaI did NOT mean to un-disrespect india with a capital first letter, it was autocorrect being a cuck.
>>536245948Yeah but it'd have to be an alt history game where Europe destroys Israel. I dont want to play as a muslim, thats just a different flavor of semite.
>>536245948>Also, only homosexuals care about fighting Russiaoh em geee, you're so zzzased and tradpilled! Slavs are subhumans and in a simulator the only 2 coalitions that make sense having are NATO vs USSR from the cold war, with no or very little FOX3 missiles. And it should have a bigger focus on CAS, ground pounding missions. Adding the jews as the enemies is impossible if you want your sim to actually exist in current year.
Never seen this game posted, it looks alrighthttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5nJtdBEXiXc
>>536247002My man, I literally bomb israel every day in DCS, and the only my to stop me is for john greenblatt himself to fight his way into my house and uninstall it from my computer.
>>536247465So do I, but the shitty map is empty and the nukes don't even have a visual effect.
>try project zomboid>font too fucking small and can't read anything. >need 4 different modsyeah fuck that. At least it was on sale
>>5362445291970-1990 is the peak, all dev effort outside of this window is wasted.vietnam should be the WW2 of this era of flight sims if we're trying to relive the 1990s analogy
>>536247465Wasn't there a mission where if you shoot on israeli planes the mission immediately ends?
>>536165046It's the landing mate, the gear is huge and I never know when I'm going to touch down, I'm starting to get the hang of it.
That window of time where reliable all-aspect heaters, laser and TV guided munitions, and BVR fox 1s existed, but GPS bombs / high off-boresight / FLIR / fox 3s did not is the ideal time period for aerial combat kino. Nothing much happened in this period besides the Falklands War, which is why more sims need to fully embrace alt histories or fictional worlds like arcade flying games do.
>>536252249>lebanese civil war>iran-iraq>ussr in afghanistan>us latam shenanigans>african bush warsnot nothing, but most of it was brown
>on final>90kt (5kt under stall speed)>flare>twitchy surfaces bug reported 5 months ago makes me flare too much>do nothing>plane goes on at sub stall speeds for a good 3kmThe flight model is honestly shit outside of a few instances compared to the MSFS one (that has a lot of other issues but in different areas)I don't know enough about flight models to know what is wrong, but something is wrong.
>>536253662Exactly. Nobody wants to play as browns
>>536246149it's allowed if you use it in the same sentence as *srael
>>536253662>ussr in afghanholy mother of kino. a full dynamic BMS-style campaign for this NOW.
>>536257040>BMS-style campaignIt's literally impossible on DCS engine. Wags even hinted on his last appearance that's it's going to be closer to a bigger instant action.
>>536253912Is the dev still active?
>>536262397Yeah, but I don't know how big their team actually is nor what is the threshold for them to consider a module complete. In my opinion their M-346 is around 50% done, but I can easily imagine them fixing just a few bugs and calling it a day, since they never made a roadmap. They also have other modules but if I have to be honest the level of details from looking at some youtube videos isn't that great. Their F-16s are at the level where I wouldn't be able to ask people money for them if I was the developer. The CRJ seems to be a tiny bit better but it's hard to gauge the true reception.If their M-346 will actually be developed further, introducing more MFD pages, the remaining HUD symbology, an actual physic based flight model like XPlane is famous for instead of the current FrecciaRossa one, and with more than 2 updates per year that hopefully will do more than only break stuff, then for me it was worth it. But if I didn't have an obsession with this trainer I honestly would've never looked their way even once. I bought this module IIRC a year after its release and some of the bugs were IMMEDIATELY obvious from the first flight if you had even a little bit of experience with flight sims in general the fucking map was stationary so I seriously can't understand how the devs could miss those, unless they are incredibly understaffed and have cornered themselves with having to support too many modules. where have I seen that before?
>>536265424Indiafoxtechno said that the 346 will get an update 'soon' so you'll just have to hope it's a good one.
>>536267650I think they are just going to do some cleanup for the code but I would love to be proven wrong. Their M-346 module would need a complete 3D model overhaul and a completely different logic for their FBW/trim logic with flaps down. I don't know what to feel about them as devs considering some of the bugs for the DCS MB-339 are still present a year after them being reported (same with the M-346) and they seem to want to focus mostly on their breadwinner, the F-35 which I think it's getting some A/G stuff but I'm not sure as faceberg asks me to log in to view posts.
>>536269287Honestly I've noticed that quite a few devs support their product for a bit and then completely abandon it even if there are still issues, not a fan.
>>536269720I think it's because unless the module you release keeps selling like hotcakes at some point you'll have to either find another source of income or go under. Same issue DCS has. I hate subscription services like the plague but their advantage is precisely that. But their downside is that the devs then have all the incentives to trickle down meaningless updates to minmax their cash flow. With the Xplane12 M-346 I was honestly a complete retard and didn't read up on how the modules work there. I tought it would be that once I buy it I own it so in the future I could make a fully offline simpit for the M-346 and not have to worry about licenses yet I'm stuck with a limited uses activation code module.As a customer either way you'll take it up the ass. and I'm now considering buying the F-104 for Xplane
>>536257040the pinnacle of 90-00s combat simming was in recreating 50-year-old conflicts and it's a waste to not be doing it again in the 2020s.
>>536270950>lightning on windowhow?
>>536270950be a man and pirate it bro.no need to take it up your ass unless you actually want it there.
>>536271459The problem is that with Xplane there seems to be a lot less pirated stuff. I was able to find a couple of GA modules on some weird russian website but they also asked to run some sketchy exe files so I just said fuck that.>>536271421it's st Elmo nutsack or something, it was a part of the simfx mod for msfs IIRC
>>536270950>limited uses activation code moduleThat's gay, maybe if you reach the limit you can contact the devs and get new ones?
>>536273565Yeah you can, my gripe is about what happens if they go under or die. I hope they will at least have the decency to make an uncrypted release with the latest build if they ever stop being in the business.
>>536247148Never even knew it existed
>>536110516>>536166473>>536207090>>536211106This is the only game that gets me pissed off in the weeks before the update. Every time it looks finished or they outright say its done and then there's just radio silence for weeks before it finally drops. And don't you dare point that out lest the discord meat guzzlers spring to their defense.
>>536283402>And don't you dare point that out lest the discord meat guzzlers spring to their defense.And as usual, when you ask an actual serious question about the game, most of those faggots will just play LE EPIC memelords instead of actually answering your question and throw some inside jokes your way. Or just spout blatantly false information they pulled from their asses, but they feel like its true so its alright.
>>536284191still prefer that over anyone who would defend the people who stole greatness from us
>>536286850The MiG-23 is so unappealing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eY9GvhFPCgQ
>>536308942>for MSFS 2020>2024 update coming later2020 chads stay winning
>>536290931Maybe the Mig-23 finds you unappealing?
Are there any other dedicated flight sim controllers other than pic rel? Anyone here have experience with it? For it's build quality 250 seems very steep. I know its a very low volume production but still...
>>536334869>250oh helll nooo
>>536265424>The CRJ seems to be a tiny bit better >but it's hard to gauge the true reception.that's because most Xplane users are "yes men" with stockholm syndrome for the sim. They are almost all Linux users who are accostumed to having something inferior they need to try and justify to everyone, so for every issue they have they think they are using it wrong or that it's totally not an issue despite even microshart lapping them in current year.
New competitor for the T-45 replacement. Unlike the others a prototype doesn't exist yet but it seems they want to make it CATOBAR capable. It looks like a mix of the T-7 and the Scorpion.
>>536337332>that's because most Xplane users are "yes men" with stockholm syndrome for the simIt's just because it's the sim with the most boomers. Boomers are by default cucks.
>>536334869This shit looks like it will fall apart if i look at it the wrong way. Also if i remember correctly, its all made with 3D printed shit. So the finish will probably be shitty too.Also it looks retarded.
>>536334869it's a gimmick. A PS or Xbox controller will be more than enough to use with flight sims if you learn to use it.
Today i will play Nuclear Option with my virpil setup for no good reason at all.
>>536334869That thing looks awful, honestly MSFS 20/24 works surprisingly well on an xbox controller, and you can probably get DCS working alright with it.
>>536338261Isn't that just the scorpion?
>>536346335I tought so too. the design is similar, they also use normal GA engines like the scorpion etc. But SNC as far as I know isn't a Textron subsidiary and Textron already endorsed the M-346 with Beechcraft.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YHqXaKNbqiAROV kino is back
>>536290931the mig-23 itself is less appealing than the mission set gap the mig-23 fills for redfor.j8 will be the closest we get now unless you squint hard in the mirage and pretend it's a baguette-23
Sometimes i forget that, even without actual force feedback implemented, the Microsoft Sidewinder is such a good fucking stick. This fucker is almost as old as me and it still kicks ass.
>get virpil stick out>fuck around a bit>forgot that i configured it in helicopter mode>can't be arsed to open it and change the cams>don't simWouldn't have happened if i had a FFB stick. Now i'm gonna buy one and not use it either. :^)
>>536353129You're a lazy cunt, just change it
>>536353543>You're a lazy cuntand a dumb consoomer too at that
nice guts
>>536353610Give me your virpil stuff, I won't ask again
>>536359423
DON'T SINK
>>536334869Once again shilling the dualshock 4 + ds4windows. I fit Beemus F-16 on it
>>536369556I'M SINKING!
>>536338261He's in
GET OUT THE WAY
>>536373545>decide to take off properly from the airfield for once in NO>in my Ifrit>some cricket motherfucker sits in the middle of the way fiddling his inputs settings or some shitFuck this shit
>>536373781This was AI, it kept speeding up and slowing down and then sat there for a while but eventually took off.
>>536373265zis is German Navy vat are you sinking about?>>536373407it does look very close
given all the bullshit and drama it's genuinely annoying how good the flight modelling is in DCS and how nice everything feels to fly, especially helicopters
>there's a fix for the carb heat levers for the duckworks mod>I don't have it installed>my carb heat is lowNo idea what will happen if it gets too low, messes with the mixture I presume, it'll be fine.
>>536353129I just keep my MongoosT base on the soft center cams with the light springs all the time, then tighten the springs all the way for fixed wing, or 15 turns out for dead stick on helis. Same drag clutch settings both.
>>536373265Good, one less airframe to be complicit in mass immigration.
>>536334869There's this coming out soon: https://meridiangmt.com/products/x-ray-flight-sim-controller/
>>536378605This one looks serious.
>>536378605Cute
>>536375647yep
>>536375647True. Fucking MFS is literally a joke compared to it.
>>536379568I believe 24 made improvements with helicopters but it's still not its strength.
>>536380271Rotary in 24 feels pretty good once you mess with curves and find the right aircraft, definitely better than 2020 but still worse than even the free mods in DCS.
>>536379568I only need MSFS for being able to fly over places I've been in real life, other than that I prefer actually flying in DCS by a long shot. Hopefully when Falcon 5.0 comes out it will make ED start bringing their A-game instead of lazily siphoning module dollars towards Nick's warbird collection.
>>536380556Engine limitations I suppose, 2020 didn't even get helicopters till quite a while after launch so it wasn't really made with them in mind.
woops
>earlier this month someone broke into Kecskemét airbase and stole parts from inside the radomes of the Mig-29A 9.12's stored there >the planes were stored in the open for decades, so pretty much every part of them is junk, completely unfit to be put into a flying airframe >therefore nobody knows who stole them and why Bets on it being ED? They got stuck with simulating a subsystem in the radar, so they "borrowed" the real thing?
>>536390687I like how ED doesn't let petty things like "the law" or "property rights" get in the way of their creative vision.
>>536390687I doubt ED cares that much for their modules
>>536390687Aliens
>>536390687definitely some dude who posts here. show pics of the haul already fag
japan won the war!
>>536376471>carb heat low>what could possibly go wrong?Ice. Ice in your carbs makes the engines no go no mo'
>>536399953You don't need carbs m8 just protein
I got him bros ... Its over ... No more tariffs.
>>536412326glad to see some non-planefag autism here.what route?
>>536412558>I don't see no crater, boy!
>>536110871Is that from the f19 sim?
>>536412558You defeated racism. Racism is finished.
>>536412558t.
>>536399191Surely the Compass absolutely mogs any real "advanced trainer" right? It's a nuke-capable transonic A-10 with an internal bay and carrier capability.
>>536378605Looks good but how do you move the camera with this?
get moab'd
>>536435982It's for airline fags, they just look at the autopilot screen the whole time anyways.
>>536445727>Just tanking all that AAISHYGDDT
>>536445727>your splattered debris getting blown out of the way by the explosionkino
He mad.
Doing a cricket-only match with only bombs/heaters/guns/rockets made me realize how much I want a 1950s simcade game. I know IL-2 Korea is coming out, but just looking at the screenshots is telling me it'll be 200gb and my PC won't run it.
>>536453224IL-2 is pretty well-optimized desu, it's not a petite little 10g install like NO or 24, but with most of the ww2 shit it's still lighter than a modern AAA.
>>536454770Yeah but IL-2 Korea has more detailed *ground units* than some recent games actually set on the ground. Unless it's optimized like Halo 3, I don't expect it will run smoothly.
brutal
>try to watch dcs video on youtube>spudnocker>talks like a special ed kid retard>slobbers ED cockhow the fuck can people watch him?
>>536470212how do you niggas play flightsims on 1920x1080? it's so small, I could barely see shit while playing. switching to 1440 was like my top priority besides getting a joystick when I was only getting into simming.
>>536471420I've never played them any other way
>>536339601The funny thing is that MSFS2024 literally has a better physics engine than Xplane. But Xboomers will still go "muh realism" when they don't realize the last time Xplane was on top was before msfs2020
>>536479180basedluv me j3
>>536471339>talks like a special ed kid retardit's not just spud, the DCS content creator binary is either "humorless boomer fighter pilot" or "cripplingly autistic pimpled 20something" with nothing in between.the number of speech impediments you have to suffer through at 2x speed to learn anything in this hobby is non-trivial
>>536453224>shitting on an unsuspecting Ifrit with the cricket
>>536484870GS is kind of entertaining, although you don't really learn a lot from his vids.
>>536421437>Lag Vegas
>>536471339CasmoTV should be your first choice for tutorials then, and Got Space Games should be the last.
>>536471420I'm running at 6240 x 6280 per eye.
It's here, the game we've all been waiting for, I present to you Airport Training Simulator, Professional Ground Handling Training.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rQ1TyGjSsDQ
>>536509446yo this actually looks cool as fuck. i'm glad i still have my t300rs and shifter.
>>536504645art of the kill and laobi vids all you need assuming you're flying something covered in the 60-second series.casmo does have some good series on air cav tactics and thinking rotary thoughts but privated most of his useful airframe tutorials
>>536516874What is this from?
>>536524613A safety poster in an EC-145
>>536524613DON'T APPROACH THE AIRCRAFT UNTIL THE PILOT GIVES THE OK, you rube!
I'm playing Farming Simulator 2022, I probably haven't played a farming sim game since 2011
>>536531673Forgot pic, my first tractor and I'm renting the plough, I don't really know what I'm doing I have to say.
>>536532953>Stealing defeat from the jaws of victory
>>536532953Looks like the sort of 'planes' I would make in KSP
>>536102524Still hate ED but I can't deny this actually looks pretty sick, though it does just make me madder that we only have the post cold war versions of the US 4th gens
Still wondering whether its worth it to dust off my HOTAS for Nuclear Option. PLays well enough as is, but feels kinda spastical playing with MKB.
>>536562614Fucking hate playing with MKB, even tho for some reason most of the fags playing this game on youtube are using MKB. I guess they're just regular games who stumbled upon the game and not sim-autists.
>>536562614worth it, everything feels good
>>536562614Do you have a gamepad? Even the dev himself uses one
>>536574640>NK OMETyW AEBABNT>NK OHrETyW NPAB ABNT>ANPABKA KPAHGl OTKPWTAHrA ABAP BbNyCKWho the fuck came up with this shit? It doesn't make any sense.
>>536575043learn how to read, anon
>>536576828CyKA BLYAT, PIDOR!
Ass Evo 0.3 when
>>536524881>>536527320>card has instructions for entering the helicopter without getting mulched>"DO NOT REMOVE THIS CARD FROM THE HELICOPTER"what's the point then?
>>536559114What a coincidence, I was looking into the 105 yesterday, it's a nice helicopter.
>>536593008DO NOT REDEEM THE CARD>remove the card>you can now enter the helicopter however you want
>>536600000based
>>536600000Nice aircraft
>>536600000digits checked, hope there's a dev update soon
>>536550892>looks pretty sickhow? it literally does nothing the FC3 one doesn't already do. The only difference is the clickable cockpit since the EFM is the same and they confirmed they won't implement GCI control
>hot againGO AWAY
>behold the modern ground-attack aircraftpicrel plus hypersonics mean the future of 21st-century air-to-air jet combat only exists in simulation.there's no "real doctrine" and everything is a LARP. take off from the taxiway.
>>536615150What if we get air to air drone combat?
Big drones with lasers chasing down small drones carrying explosives
>>536617136RC WW2 with quadcopters and wingman jets sounds pretty dope actually.
>>536619851The skies will be full of REEEEing
FUCK FISHBEDS THEY'RE TOO EASY
>>536617136
>>536621160>drone fishingkino
>>536621497
*digs out a random screenshot to save the thread*
>>536639261>twin radial cargo dogwhat is this?
>>536640550DC-3, you can have it as passenger or cargo
>>536639261story of /simg/
>>536640756genuinely forgot it came in a cargo variant, cheers
>>536644162There's also a modern version with GPS (gay) and the classic version without (based). The old autopilot is a bit funky.
>like IL-2 Blitz game engine, flight dynamics, and cockpit interactions>don't like the Cliffs of Dover planes because 303s are so piss weak>don't like the Tobruk map because it's just a flat empty desert >supposed to be making Dieppe but no news this year so farWhere is it
>>536621160I always told you guys the solution to drones is more drones.
Guys, do you smell burnt hair ?..
>>536654436This is why you can't fly with big lithium batteries
>>536651250Husband... You gave away all our ressources to implement TrueSky but it still doesn't work... and now we are homeless
>>536651626From virtually no drones to drones being the most lethal weapon on the battlefield in just 3.5 years, I can't wait to see what the evolution brings us to counter them, surely fishing nets aren't the ultimate counter drone weapon
>>536656543Big sticks to whack them out of the air
>>536656543>pic related
>>536656543My bet is current remote weapon stations on tanks and other vehicles will be replaced remote weapon stations that are basically mini SPAAG systems with a small radar, or thermal cam, or AI-guided optical camera or something, while the weapon itself is either blasting the drone with shogun shells, or airburst rounds.
>>536651626Damnit, I just wanted a fun hobby flying FPV drones, then some slavs had to go and use it to mutilate each other, and now the wall are closing in on me. I really am just going to have to live in my fucking VR headset if I want any freedom, the judeocracy has already ruined fast cars, guns, women, and vaping for me so far.
>>536666619Oh and they want to take my 3D printer away next too, I am so sick of these politicians forgetting that they work for ME.
>>536656543I'm thinking drones that just shoot some kind of adhesive like a Spider Man web sprayer.
>>536671260Can be countered too easily with a drone that shoots lube.
>>536656543Nets are big and heavy and only destroy 1 drone, but drones are more fragile than that. A chain or rope can also break the propellers. Hell a strong gust of wind can fuck a cheap drone, give counter drones an airzooka
Fucking aerospace CEOs in here trying to get us to brainstorm for free.
>>536673381I've been foiled
>>536673381Works better than chat GPT somehow
>>536678915Censored by another shadow aerospace agency to keep their drones safe
How crazy do you have to be, to unironically consider flying this shit?
>>536688013what is the thought process here?does this help in a crosswind or...?
>>536688013>>536690746It's called "not giving a fuck as hard as you can". Besides, you can always just eject and lose a few inches of height permanently!
>>536690746I think it was just the period when they tried EVERYTHING they could, and try to see how it performed. Especially because computers weren't powerful enough to just make a simulation. So they needed to actually do the wacky shit and take notes.
>>536688013Do you have to go full throttle once that thing moves?
Terrain.
>>536690746I'd guess it's a mechanically simpler swing wing
>>536690746high speed, long range, long endurance
I finally finished modding XPLANE12..After 3 days and 185Gbs of mods, I finally got it looking pretty good (for XPlane).Doesn't look as good as MSFS2024 obviously, but at least i can zoom in really far and still see the buildings ahead of me (unlike in FS2024)
fuck i forgot to post the picture lmao>>536732864
>>536733004what mods?
>>536735462Simheaven X-WORLD 3.0 and AutoOrtho for the graphics, LiveTraffic for traffic (duh), Better Pushback, Follow Me Car and Auto DGS for Ground Ops, and lastly a couple of great freeware like the ZIBO737 and the Aerobastk DR400.
>>536690801u wot m8 I had no idea this was in development, I can't find a website or much info on it beyond a video
>>536733004That looks good, the trees still look a bit odd though
>>536690801I love this weird little nigga so much
>>536736890Yeah they included those new 3D trees in XPLANE12 but they don't look great from afar...The only good thing about them is that they change depending on the season and can look pretty good from up close.
>>536737252That looks decent, the great trees in MSFS 24 made me realise how much of a difference they make to scenery in sims, 2024 goes a bit mad with it though so it looks like another game almost on the ground. What does water look like in X Plane? Does the sea look alright?
>>536737194it will do the spray and everything, live out your soviet farming kino dreams
>>536736564>Simheaven X-WORLD 3.0isn't that a bitch to install?
>>536736564>>536733004Sweet. Personally I didn't like the look of Simheaven due to the all gray buildings and fell back to only authoortho. Simheaven also gave me massive fps drops.
>>536738654Believe it or not, just a drag and drop into your custom scenery folder and just a quick check the see if your sceneries are loaded in the correct order and you're set !>>536740320Sometimes i find the building models for Simheaven to be really low-res compared to the default ones, but for VFR it adds so much details and structures missing from the base scenery package.
>>536737494Water looks alright most of the time, the waves are well made but i still prefer 2024's water effects
>>536744387It reminds me of FSX where you had to install countless addons to make it look good (at the time). I remember Orbx's scenery packs seemed amazing at the time but it's funny looking at them now.
>>536745159That's exactly what it is. I hope someday we can get better ground textures and details out of the box, they did a good job with the clouds and the colours last update, i hope they keep it up.It's ok-ish for VFR flight now, IFRs flights are really great though compared to FS2024. I do enjoy the night lighting and the airport scenery way m ore in XPLANE.
>>536745942They keep fiddling with lighting in 24, apparently the weird sepia glow around cities will be fixed in SU4
>can't even load 500 mods in BeamNG without having them crash my vehicle after I spawn it nor can I load the RLS career mod in itwhy even live
>>536757383Are you the dev? Where are you getting these helis from as I can't find anything about them.
>>536757884helix collective is the dev
Chicago almost looks like a normal place.Almost.
*waits under your path*
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vfkWW3PMPMUThis video suggests that MSFS 2024 actually runs better when streaming everything compared to downloading.
>>536770515Forgot to say, I'm working on a submarine in Stormworks, it really belongs on /egg/ but it's a vehicle and a simulation ish. I love subs with the red lower hull, it looks great.
>TrackIR arrives>yay, time to live the head tracking fantasy>turns out it's a pain in the ass because my posture is fucked and I'm too ADHD to keep my head still and level most of the timeballs
>>536780546It's not the 2000's anymore, we have VR now. You can return your TrackIR, and for that same $150 pick up a used Reverb G2 to run with the Oasis driver that comes out on the 29th.
>>536780546You'll have to fiddle, you can give yourself neckache with trackir if the curves are wrong and your head is stuck in one spot>>536780849I'm sure trackir is much more comfortable than VR
>>536780849I mean I have a Pico 4 headset, I'm just not sure whether that is actually supported by the sims I wanted to try it with. Whereas track IR is pretty much out the box, which is pretty neat
Have a great night /simg/
>>536781148>I'm sure trackir is much more comfortable than VRComfortable maybe, but more unnatural because it doesn't track your movement 1:1 like VR. Any VR headset can be made comfortable with shims under the facial interface pad, and then your body will develop thick, powerful neck muscles to deal with the weight.
>>536781148you can't beat VR for immersion, but if you're lazy and can settle for 80% good enough trackir or opentrack is fine.low-barrier impulsive sessions on flatscreen are better than the sessions you skip because you can't be bothered to put on the headset.
>>536783723When I fly I like being able to look at littlenavmap on another monitor like I had a paper map in the cockpit, and I can also shitpost here as I fly. I know you could probably do that in VR but it sounds like a pain.
>>536782308>fever>clogged nose>25°Probably not going to be a great night.
>>536787985Do Anon (fever) dreams about flight by /simg/
>>536787985>>536788303I've genuinely had fever dreams about planes and it wasn't fun, ganbare anon
>>536786019second screen is a massive pain in VR, you're better off peeking under the headset at your actual monitor than whatever cludgy workaround you need to do with openkneeboard or virtual desktop.if you listen to music, socialize, consume brainrot, or use any kind of references in another window, the convenience of alt-tab beats the fidelity of VR every time
>>536796804Can you get other windows up easily in VR?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dc7QM77Xsg0
>>536804335Wtf that looks like real life
>>536804335His setup was always damn impressive. I liked his modded AC showcases.
>>536804335Wait, is he using a filter to show his body or is that the actual model of the game having those realistic hand movements?
>>536806261Its a rig, youre seeing the real him, wheel, and dashboard... the windows are screens
>>536797383no
>AGM-99s for air-to-air>it worksholy based
>>536811038You can kill flying stuff with almost anything if used right and the dude doesn't really evade. You even have a special warning for optical missiles for this reason. So you know it isn't TOO BAD, but you might want to shake it off anyway to make sure.I've yet to kill a heli with a bomb tho.
>epic games store can't handle the power of a fully operational TSW dlc rangelmao
>0.31 dev stream tomorrowPlease be the last one I need it
>>536797383Setting up some floating windows just to look at may be easy depending on the headset (it's easy with Quest). If you need to interact with them and not just look at them it gets more complicated.Although the original topic was just looking at maps inside VR and there's a ton of ways to do that, including the built-in EFB in FS2024
>>536825610sameI've waited long enough
Is the world accurately simulated in FS2024? Or is it ball earth spinning at 1000mph?
is it the same boat or not
>>536861786I'd say yes. That's cargo on the bow and stern, not part of the structure.
>>536835261What's the cockpit like?
>>536858707Why would it be spinning at 1000mph? It turns in real time.
>>536835261>>536846617What game has bestkamov in it?
>>536863971no pics of the -31 yet, have the -26
>>536864850You still haven't told me where to get this from, the only references I can find are on the helisimmer website which seems to be down. Where can I get it?
>>536788303>>536790075>finally fall asleep early in the morning>neighbors decide to start cutting logs.I now understand why sometimes people kill their neighbors.
>>536864753msfs, eventually>>536864926not out yet and no announced release date, but the devs dumped all of these screens in june/july so hopefully it's close
You know what bugs me the most in DCS? Cockpit clocks don't have accurate beat rates.
>>536866545What a shit game, embarrassing
>>536865948>the helicopters are going to be totally freehttps://www.twitch.tv/videos/2515207526
>>536867791It's just fucking annoying when you start the AChS-5, or the Heuer or Dodane clock and it's either a smooth glide, or a 1s beat, like a quartz clock.
>>536874459They should just release a seiko nh-36 early access module. Full fidelity but you can't open the caseback and the seconds hand will come afterwards (possibly)
Plz gib update now
>>536874459I've honestly never understood watch autism, they tell the time, who cares beyond that. I'm sure they might be put together well and look pretty inside but it's something that sits on my wrist and tells me the time.
I've honestly never understood plane autism, they fly from A to B, who cares beyond that. I'm sure they might be put together well and look pretty inside but it's something that I sit in and takes me the Bali.
>>536877484(You)
>>536879105Guess I won then.
>>536880431It was such a terrible analogy it wasn't worth a proper response
>>536881008To the selfish autist, maybe.
>>536877329You might want to play a watchmaking sim
>>536882225Do real pilots sim the plane they fly irl all day?
>>536882225>The wristwatch (: rannekello) is an item which can be obtained by knocking out the drunken man at the dance pavilion. Once the man has fallen down, he will drop his watch which can then be equipped by looking at it and pressing F.
>another nothingburger bomber escortIt's been nearly 25 missions just get me out of Finland please and into an il2 or something
>>536882951Hiding such an important item in such an insane way was an inspired choice. Sasuga TopGun.
>>536884520That's My Summer Car in a nutshell, honestly I wouldn't recommend the game, it's frustrating and boring on purpose, which some claim is part of the charm but it is very irritating.
>>536882652I figure there's gotta be a bunch of them who do. Honestly I stopped flying planes in DCS for almost a year when I was moving and couldn't find the time to get my shit setup again and by the time I did I felt like I had lost all my muscle memory.I still knew what I had to do and what i had to press but I felt like I was running on brain lag.
Apparently there's a Russian sub off the coast of Norway that's being hunted for
>>536865985That's it, I calling the EPA on these fucking underwater pirates.
>>536897009https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5IyngX5mojc
It's 747 Wednesday my dudes
Move it FROGS!
>>536897009the sub dissapeared and for a moment they heard whales humping
>>536877484This, but trains.
>>536877484If anything, I have a major fucking grudge against airplanes for allowing billions of people like this guy to effortlessly fly from india to unsuspecting places all over the world.
>>536897009I'll help in the search
>>536877027ITS BEEN 5 MONTHS
>>536908113what are butt trains?
>>536920649
normal chicane sortie
>>536922850I'm guessing your CPG got turned into beef stroganoff spray?
NO dev stream cancelled because their street lost power
>>536931047AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH
>>536922850>why do we even bother with all this useless stuff ? look, its fine
>>536922850Uoohhhhhhh belly erotic
>dogfight a cricket in my jet>end up stalling my shit up and crashingHistorically accurate.
up we go again...
2020 really looks like dogshit after adjusting to 24
>>536943006What heli is that? Looks nice and unmolested by GPS niggerdry.
>>536945378one freshly soiled pair of underwear for the crew chief
>>536948318>He doesn't know about the secret roll rate
>>536947296freeware ka-26 from helix collective. devs were close to release as of a couple weeks ago, but then did a weekend of research in hungary and came back with stuff to tweak.
>>536948318IL2 1946?
American truck simulator clone made by who elsehttps://store.steampowered.com/app/2141130/Road_Kings/
Found this. I think its the first video game I ever touchedhttps://www.moddb.com/mods/janes-wwii-fighters-2020-edition-flight-sim-air-combat
>>536959807You have to be 18 to post here.
>>536964770sorry, am YF-17
>>536959593Maybe i'm the only one, and maybe i am delusional, but i wish those fucks would kinda consolidate all their trucks games in one solid game. Expeditions imo has very good rock crawling physics, compared to snowrunner (last time i checked at least). Roadcraft got tracked vehicles finally working, construction etc. Now you got this new truck game ...Each game has its strength, but is lacking in some way.Well, at least we'll soon get the new difficulty for roadcraft, with gearboxes and fuel.
>>536931047I honestly think something's up with this update. No other update has taken this long.
>>536980638I mean, seems like its fucking packing. Remade (some?) airfields, new heli, new airdrop mechanic, new enhanced flight model, new ground vehicles, and i'm probably missing stuff.
>>536980875They are doing a great job. I'm still hoping for a C130-like cargo plane though.(Yes i know about the Medusa)
>>536980638Surprise VR update, I heard it from someone who knows an insider!
>>536980451How are you supposed to pilot from the back seat if you can't see?
>>536983951backseat is for the passenger
>>536984085I haven't flown the cub for ages, I thought the rear seat was the pilot was some reason, fair enough.
>>536968204JANNY
>>536984085Nah, rearseat is pilotYou just gotta look around herOr push her out of the way
>>536984193>>536985341I thought piloting from the rear seat was only during solo flight
>>536986436instruction too
When are we getting blender wing body planes?
>>536986536blended*, though that plane was probably made in blender.
Anyone played this? It isn't a sim but I like the Porco Rosso aesthetic.
This was obviously painted on as a joke, after a Hungarian Mi-24V ambushed two F-15's on an exercise and got gunkills on them. After the exercise the Americans told them they could fly over to their base in the US for a visit any time. The Hind guys said sure, just line up every aircraft carrier they have over the Atlantic, and they can hop over from carrier to carrier.
>>537002464>20 minute flightFilthy casual
>>537003120I just needed to get to KCOD to pick up my Starship
>got my first multiplayer kill earlier in il2Oh yeah... 7 ground targets too... thanks Focke Wulf!
>>537003120filthy casual joyride flights are the most fun
>hour long escort with no trimming, dont see a single fucking Finn. Lose most of our guys to collisionsAnd they wonder why I drink...
>>537005498https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sMSxobFK_mY
>>537006105bring back grossly inefficient engines and short-hop routes with sovl
>>537005930No trimming ?What kind of shit-plane do they force you to fly ?!
>>537014787I-16 type 18If it had some cannons I could forgive it slightly, but I'm stuck with pea shooters that take out trucks and that's about itI can't wait till this part is over and I move to the il-2
you wouldn't cheat in an online co-op game
Anyone know what DCS mod this is?
>>537034068Another view:
>>536980875Really needs some AI improvements. Watching AI try and make room for eachother on the Annex class carrier is like watching indian truck drivers in Canada
>>537034068And another:
>>537034068Last one, I promise ;^)
>>537034824RIP
>>537034068I would simply pull up
>>537034068Polish F-16 demo pilot. Barely a year after they lost a M-346 in the same exact manouvre. You'd think they would change the ceiling for these moves. RIP.
>>537041337Seems to be a common way to crash at an airshow
>>537041337He also has AB on the whole way through.
>>537034824ugh, rip
>>536980638They better nerf Piledrivers too. As it stands, they're just an "End Match immediately" button as soon as that Radar Truck goes down.
>>536982990is that you?
>>537034824Do you think he G-locked? Even with full afterburner I tought the f-16 should've been able to pull more AOA than that, in that situation.
>>537059176>load bomber with bunch of Piledrivers>take off>launch>repeatLove the game but this unbalanced broken shit isn't even fun. There's a problem with how spammable some weapons are, and with the size of the maps and actual engagement ranges.Also AI is fucking useless.
>>537062263this is the irl modern combat meta, take it up with reality.
hmmm
>>537075013Wait, heartland is 80x80km, and Ignus is more like 160x80km. Apparently the new map is a steppe biome that is mostly land and ignus sizedWont be in 0.31 im pretty sure, but likely 0.32
Bohemia needs to hurry up and buy ED already.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FY-3nQ5Fpeo
>>537064372>plane launched micro ICBMS are realisticThe only reason they are so OP is because they fly in a ballistic arc through the stratosphere. Thats not a thing IRL, no rocket taht has enough fuel for that fits on a plane, especiall if you add that the rocket has no pad to launch itself from and needs to steer upwards mid-air while also correcting for the planes velocity. NO does pretty well with prioritizing fun over realism when in doubt, but these things are neither fun nor realistic.
Regardless of whether they are realistic or not, tuskos were a terrible addition because there is never a reason to not take them. Piledrivers are vulnerable to missile SAMs, cruise missiles are vulnerable to SPAAGs, bombs require you to get close, while tuskos are strong against anything.
>>537080427russians are lobbing kinzhals off mig-31's and the chinese can air-launch the dongfeng-21.irl HGVs are even more OP bullshit than the approximation we get in NO
>"Perhaps I should have chosen a different career path." Sergey thought.
>>537004149I just bought this plane and parts are already falling off!
The world was never the same after the third impact
>>537103086Stay out of icing conditions
>>537077970Mentioned before but I saw this on display at a defence exhibition under BAE, big setup with lots of people acting as ground troops on computers, two people in flight sim setups flying jets, huge screen showing the overall battle, it was fun to watch. I spoke to one of the engineers and iirc it was built on the Operation Flashpoint engine.
>>537119826it's too bad their flight mechanics are ass since the rest of the ground simulation works so well
>>537034068>TFW you forget you don't have thrust vectoring
>>537111678I love Jank Simulator. Found these just West of Colorado Springs. I tried to land on one, but clipped through.
>>537130236ah yes, brutalist corporate architecture in the middle of the rockies.
>>537137148I BELIEVE IT'S TIME FOR ME TO FLYYYY
>>537137148>kinoe
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aUlafaMDuU0>model full-fidelity clickable jet >startup requires two buttons pressed simultaneously on opposite sides of cockpit>still need keyboard bindingsbuy it before it's done or it's $80, thank you for your passion and support
>>537119612We will stay above the clouds
https://youtu.be/Jo6fKboqfMs?t=24
>>537164176Italy has become too powerful and must be stopped
>>537165704Don't worry, we're already stopping ourselves by electing retards
>>537166339But look how pretty she is
>>537166838The fact that she's the least retarded of her coalition is what makes me want to cry lmao.
Would recommend The Wind Rises for an aviation -related film
>>537167876Youtube recommended me this onehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gyC8TNm4kHY
>>537168428There really is an anime for everything
>>537167876It's good
>>537165704
>>537169338Still waiting for that horology anime of cute girls discussing Omega, Heuer, servicing movements and wearing cute Seikos.
So i was away for a couple of days. Quick rundown on the NO stream ?Turns out i don't have skin cancer btw
>Complex Engine Management [Off]I can't be bothered to map all these keybinds, sorry
The crash compilations are already startinghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3s_sVwelYik
>>537191424Don't follow NO, but glad to hear it anon.
>>537198379The game is already out ?>>537198869Thanks anon
>>537199268nvm i'm retarded
How is it possible that the majority of flight sims won't let you just map view panning to a joystick axis like a normal fucking game. Props to Nuclear Option for not being fucking retarded and just letting me do this.>hmmm should I set up my right thumbstick as a virtual mouse or a virtual keypad
Nothing as comfy as RTBing after a successful Sortie.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HhaMma2FmNc
Which mecha should get a DCS modulehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J2ZNBkI4rMQ
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>>537191424That's great news congratulations mate, I hope you didn't do anything stupid because you thought you were going to die soon
>>537191424Congrats, anon. Most anons in this thread don't have skin cancer because they haven't been outside since Arianna Grande was still fuckable.
>>537203185If you're using the duckworks mod (which you should be if you're flying the dc-3), there's a fix for the carb heat levers in 24 on the duckworks discord, which is a bit of a faff to get, not sure why they don't just update it on the site.
>>537229424I'm sure there was a mech simulator in development but I can't remember the name of it
>>537251594I already did plenty of dumb shit before, don't worry. Nothing too bad tho.>>537251705Honestly, barely go out and i mostly live at night so i was pretty annoyed to be told i could have skin cancer. Fuck that.
>>537253650Wear suncream m8, it's amazing how many people don't and age like shit and get cancer. Even if you're outside for an hour, when the UV is anything above low it still affects you.
>>537253736I do bro'. I always protect my skin and i still look like a fucking baby at 32. I know its not that old, but some people are younger than me and their skin already look like shit because they do UVs and shit.Thinking about commissioning this artist to do more NO characters like this.
>>537254050>'My last wish before I die of ligma is a NO anime girl (futanari)'
>>537254305My usual commissions are mostly hyper-muscular religious dudes (no homo), its nice to try something new sometimes.
>>537229424Atlas obviously. It will sell well so we'll get more modules and Gundam crossovers for Zaku/Kampfer modules. Then we will get more obscure crossovers.- A delusional Anon
Wingless planes
Got in touch with the artist. Commissions slots are full right now, but as soon as they open up again i'll try to cook something funny for /simg/>>537261510Thats the spirit
>>537261635Paying for art is fucking stupid imo
>>537262230Nah, if it's a good artist and you have no other choice it's good. It's not like paying for porn
>>537262230I've commissioned a lot of artworks over the years and i'm glad i did. When you find good artists you actually vibe with, its amazing.
>>537262230it's the only reason good art exists
>>537263757I've seen absolute shit in galleries being sold for over a grand
>>537264004Thats just money laundering.
>>537262230>t. Julius II
helicopters aren't real
Fuck you newton.
And here I thought we'd get the NO update this month...
>>537271271There's NO update
>>537271271I've heard it could come as soon as next week. Keep huffing that copium with me anon.
>drop AA, radar and ammo to solidify the airfield>gets wrecked by a missile salvo from a darkreach anywayAlso fucking ammo containers just slide around the place.
Fucking aussies are probably colluding with Team Cherry to release 0.31 on the same day as Silksong
>>537254050God damn I need to commission something like that. A mix of an M-346 and Holo from Spice and Wolf holding a Dragunov.
>>537284434I warn you, once you take the coomer path, there is no return. Save your soul before it's too late.
>>537284434Do it.
If you like the M346 so much why dont you marry it
>>537285056>Deranged man loses his genitals after breaking into a military base in bizarre aviation incident
>>537285056You sound like my ex
>>537285963The 339?
>>537286310kek
What are we thinking, fellas? For me the interesting part was how quick and automated startup was, guess the Soviets were taking QRA pretty seriously.
>>537294185For me, it's the eject handle
>>537294185Yeah, handle looks like nuts
>>537294185Looks like a good adversary to the F-14 until we get the fagafied version.
>>537295279I think a more matching adversary would be the M2000. Well, as long as that module still works that is.
>>537004149>Starship version 1.2 update re-enables tail registration display for all included liveries in FS2024New paint job time
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ovXwNBu0zYM
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/wKR8DPyuHOM Could you guys make this landing?
>>537306186I could land on the boat but I doubt I'd survive it.
>>537295949they're never coming back, it's razbover
>>537295949I routinely get the shit kicked out of me by AI Mig-25s in the Hornet. It does, in fact, suck to suck.
>>537312040Simulation: Accurate
Gib NO update NOW. I want to AIRDROP shit NOW.Also i wish the front wouldn't move that fast in multiplayer. Feels like you have no time to do anything.
I love being a logistic autist. I wish to see one day some sim game that has both high quality combat gameplay, and high quality vehicle autism gameplay, and both running alongside each others.Like, kid of a mix of Eurotruck/spintires/DCS/Foxhole/Arma or whatever. You get the idea.
>>537306186tuna spotter vids are kinohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t15UsFN9JOc
We're over the Target.
TERRAIN
BUMP
>>537348759>yes 2 inch freeboard is good saar
>>537330313I keep wondering why the frogs are so autistic about compatibility with USN carrier operations?
>>537374739Anon...
Seeing that the arcade console gamers get graphics like this is a let down for me as a linux x-plane 12 simmer. Fuck, I can cope all I want with "graphics don't matter, it's all about simulation", doesn't change the fact this looks fucking good.
>>537378993>arcade console gamesThe MSFS24 g1000 172 has a better flight model than the Xplane one. Even just the physic engine of 24 is better than xplane
>>537381446Yeah no, it is an arcade game and the physics is broken.
>>537377521Yeah, but why though? Do they think in an actual hot war Rafales will be blasting off American supercarriers, and F-35's will be blasting off the Louis de Funés or whatever the fuck it's called?
>>537384921But enough about Xplane.
Has anyone here had experience with both VKB and Virpil kit? I'm just getting back into flight sims after a few years and I've quickly remembered how much I hated the ungated hats on the Virpil CM3 throttle and CM2 grip compared to my older Warthog and CH products kit. Are the hats on the VKB STECS and MCGU any better?
>>537384921Nope, i've got decent IRL experience to say this :FS2024 is really good for GA, XPLANE has better FM for Airliners.That's about it, 2024 shits all over XPLANE12 graphic wise though.
>>537387735>Nope, i've got decent IRL experience to say this>FS2024 is really good for GAYeah, for the graphics, eg. sightseeing, not much else. Look up any neutral comparisons made by real life pilots and you'll notice everyone says that MSFS planes fly like on rails.
>>537378993even DCS has better terrain and atmospherics than xplane, it's an ugly sim
>>537388013>ignores anon who says he has IRL flight experience>look up videos online dude
>>537391636>believes anons blindlyI'm a A350 captain bro, I know what I'm talking about.
>>537392287Most pilots i actually know and talk to agree with me (again, for GA aircrafts only).Sounds like your opinion is made up anyway lmao
>>537393095Yeah sure thing buddy.
>>537387735>>537392287>>537393095My dad had a neighbor who flew for KLM until 1977 who'd stand on his patio, rambling about how this new Microsoft would help him somehow taxi his aircraft.
I know a dude who used to fly some ultra light crap. I only listen to his advices.
I wish we had another game like Atomic Suggestion but in a cold war gone hot setting.Instead of having advanced aircraft, just justify the simplistic controls by having a co-pilot who actually deals with the targeting and stuff.
As an active duty professional M-346 sim pilot thank me for my cervix I think the effort put in by the virtual aircraft developers often matters more than the engine limitations of the sim. I still don't know anything about flight sim engines so I'll shut up now
>>537384921This is just cope because you don't want to use Windows for MSFS. How realistic a plane flies is nearly all down to the developer, not the engine
>>537405083>How realistic a plane flies is nearly all down to the developer, not the engineIt's both. X-Plane has implemented "blade element theory" which tries to interpret the physical shape of the aircraft's model and incorporate it into the physically simulated object. I don't know about MSFS.
>>537405605MSFS24 has that. In 2020 "aicrafts" were all basically a tube with wings. in 2024 you can have complex shapes. But if the developer doesn't use the tool they are back to being a tube.
>>537405605But I'm sure devs have to implement that, I imagine there are plenty of shit addons for x plane that don't fly well.
>>537400182What a Battlzone style RTS where you can also pilot the vehicles?
>>537404284>As an active duty professional M-346 sim pilotHow do you get into that career?
>>537408635Be a devoted /simg/-bumper
I'm cautiously getting back into virtual flying. Some sacrifices had to be made - my Warthog stick died last year, so I'm back on the CH setup and it kinda holds up after all these years, but A2A refueling is an exercise in frustration. Ordered a ChinkWing Orion G2 stick, the Hog throttle should do fine still, but all I got for rudder is the cheap TM ones and the CH which I really don't like. VKBs weird press-down rudder seems to be the only thing available for purchase now, but they are expensive and don't have brakes, though I really like the compact form factor - is this worth getting after my next paycheck?On to the next thing, which is what is worth focusing on. IL-2 was always my go-to sim, but you all know how it is - it's got some issues like not all planes FMs being equally polished, AI sometimes being stupid (when the fuck will they fix the bug when AI wingmen don't drop their bombs!?), but it's still the best WWII SP experience.I checked out DCS the other day and it's just not good. Some warbirds still have a bit too much power, the AI still cheats and the DM is still lacking. Add to that the absolutely unrealistic planeset for the maps and campaigns and it becomes a joke as soon as you look past clickable pits and operating the plane itself. I'd say fuck it and just play BMS, but I don't find it fun on my own, always get impatient and do something stupid.God, I'd kill for something like Nuclear Option, but with WWII inspired planes
>>537408635Bad life decisions mostly.>>537408820that too
>>537408890lmao basedKeep flying king
>>537409839
why can't assblow get trees right?
>>537414376Works on my machine
>>537414938Kuldahar... home...
>>537414938>i didn't sign up for this shit
>>537414938Yggsadril
carrier landings aren't that hard once you get used to the wind. but ditching the plane every time feels a bit wasteful.
>>537417578>that sneaky rotor under the tailI always suspected these things wouldn't be able to hover level the way they do in the movie.
>>537378993Whenever I remember that people are still playing Xplane in 2025 I also remember of pic rel.
>>537428034Lazy bait is lazy.
>>537428034It's not 2001 anymore, gramps. Tell me, does Windows have ads in the UI yet? Last time I used it they were thinking about it.
>>537428797You have to stand up and say I LOVE WINDOWS every 10 minutes otherwise your PC gets locked out
>>537396995>flew for KLM until 1977was he by any chance their star pilot?
Does /simg/ think anything about IL2: Cliffs of Dover?
>>537442750meow
>>537444465Guard frequency is for serious use only
>>537447980*chinese meowing intensifies*
Nuclear Option is getting updated this week. I can feel it in my stick.
Honestly I'd trade the Fulcrum to have the Flogger. It's such an unique weirdo plane.
>watch NO dev stream from the other day>new helicopters physics will be more realistic but also easier because they're getting fly-by-wireMhhhh
>>536124926>Virtual Sailor NG>Virtual Sailor NG is an open world sailing simulator with accurate physics, simulating well the various boats included. yes saar we simulating well the various boats
>>537453868wish granted, we get a full-fidelity MiG-23MS with R-3 missiles only and no IRST
>>537440983Early WW2 is not fun because it's unstable but durable shitboxes with weak guns that take forever to kill eachother.
Hmm, I wonder what kind of sims itch.io has
>OK / Apply button not physically on the screen because of how it detects your controllerEverything is harder than has to be
>>537463942>no IRST
>>537470469monkey models didn't get gud gommitech
20010050
I'm overwhelmed by existential dread and nostalgia right now.
>>537484887Land upside down
https://ukdefencejournal.org.uk/thailand-orders-four-gripen-fighters-from-saab/>Thailand orders four Gripen fighters from Saab
>>537487607Dashed hopes for meMight go for a fly to blow off steam ...
>>537529841How come, did you apply? You could have flown comfy cargo planes instead.
the less you think about how this "free" game cost you more than most console setups and the more you just turn your brain off and fly the better you'll feel
>>537540860I refuse to think about how much I've spent on flightsims over the years. To be honest though I spent more on FSX than MSFS because you needed tonnes of addons for it, I also bought planes which I rarely flew like the A2A B377, which is amazing but I didn't fly it much.
>>537540860What does one hour of flight time in a MiG-29 cost?>>537545689In your entire flightsim career, you might have paid for a single hour of flight time in a B-377, but I guarantee you not two
>>537552978I flew it for about 3-4 hours I think
>>537552978if you're going to dollar-per-hour calculate the value of your enjoyment, DCS is only worthwhile if you genuinely like learning and remembering procedures.as far as doing the things the aircraft was built for, there isn't much to enjoy there once you've attained procedural proficiency.the enjoyment value of missions is lower than the enjoyment value of learning in the current sim environment, so if your focus on value extraction in your limited free time is on action instead of checklists there's not a lot of juice for the squeeze.an hour of flight time in a MiG-29 would always be worth the cost if you value action, it's high enjoyment return for the time invested
>>537556787christ you gameplay fags are insufferable
>>537559409>how dare you point out the flaws of a product!The insufferable ones are cuck whales
>>537559663didn't ask tell somebody who cares
>>537559409the only thing that learning how to operate a full-fidelity jet has really taught me is that i no longer have enough time to sink into staying current in a full-fidelity jet, never mind three or four of them.
>>537556787Don't people fly planes in DCS just for fun? I suppose the scenery isn't always great.
>>537560826there's having fun, and there's optimizing fun.flying DCS for aerobatics and GA is like using MSFS for the drone camera and on-the-ground planespotting. valid, but why?
>>537561731I didn't mean instead of, but do people who play DCS not just fly the planes around for fun, it's always combat?
>>537559939what a baby
>>537563203don't insult yourself like that
>>537563608>no u LMAO
>>537564686god damn you're going to do this faggot shit againyou lost nigger leave it be
>>537565447I accept your defeat
>>537565536little bitch cry more
>>537565770waahh waahh motherfucker
>>537565770>>537565898Have a duel in DCS
>>537565898nobody cares shithead
>>537565991you care enough to reply
>>537566070>(You)
>>537566171Thanks
>>537566236You're welcome
>>537566341You too
>>537566341nobody cares shithead
>>537566438>>537566440i don't even know which one of you is that retard
>>537566571Me, I'm the retard
>>537566571I'm >>537566440 Now that there's a third guy in our marital spat I'm not in the mood anymore.
>>537566673>>537566689volley
This shit reminds me of COD MW2 lobbies.
>>537567195I actually wondered if you were one of the people arguing, I wonder who is, maybe one is the x plane poster.
>>537567302I was actually all of them. I'm actually replying to myself right now.
>>537567453Note to self, post more 346 screenshots
>>537562712even when it's combat most of that is just flying, with varying levels of rules autism depending how seriously you take yourself.GA is a pretty niche use for DCS but it's a decent GA sim for the area it covers, flight model feels nice and doing stunts is kino.people who get something out of jumping in and fucking around in a yak seem to be in a minority, though
>>537567639It's a good idea, me.
>>537567661Yeah good point I didn't think about the pre-combat flight>>537567903What the hell is that?
>>537569515Filename
>>537570187I'm scared
>>537570382Hold my hand
Leader, can we take off now?
Not how we're gonna beat Mussolini lads
hey check out 2MT1 airportit's killed 2 pilots in about 2 weeks this summer
So the french, who deserved occupation for creating french philosophy, use a slow airspeed indicator for landing (?) and a fast airspeed indicator for fighting (?)
How were people even expected to navigate in this environment?
>>537593070is this an iPad game or what?don't recognize the UI
>>537594039Judging from the blue text here>>537589142 this is that strike fighters game made for iphones.
>>537593070A lot of them died for that very reason in places like the desert or in the Pacific, especially after getting separated from wingmen and squadrons. Fighter nav in WW2 was quite shit in a lot of aircraft types, for instance the US lost quite a number of fighters simply by trying to ferry them from mainland Australia to Papua New Guinea - the last refuel stop in Australia was a field called Horn Island in the Torres Strait, and there's at least four examples of aircraft that crashed because they'd been told to find Horn Island, "keep going up Cape York Peninsula and keep the land on your left and you can't miss it" - from the tip of Cape York it's about 15NM and if you know what you're looking for, readily visible - but nobody told them they should make sure they kept flying north. This P-47 is one of two that is still on the beach near the town of Weipa, because they followed that advice, got to the top of the peninsula, kept the land on the left and kept going south until they ran out of fuel and landed on the beach. The pilots were rescued, the wrecks were dynamited after the machine guns were removed. Later in the war, single bombers would travel with groups of fighters for navigation support.
>>537594039It's IL-2: Cliffs of DoverFrankly, it deserves its 66% rating on steam for having typical sim sins.>absolute dogshit UI >no dynamic campaign or proper career system>training missions are utterly worthless >radio is confusing and unexplanatory as possible That being said, the sounds, cockpits, damage model, and flight dynamics are all spot on. Install size isn't insanely bloated like so many. The AI is good... in combat at least. It's the perfect level of realism where most of the important stuff is clickable in the cockpit (less keybinds) but largely irrelevant stuff isn't modelled.I'm just playing it because I want something to do while waiting for the NO update. I've made a gorillion webms for NO, but none for this because I'm shit at it. Gamepads are not suitable for non-FBW aircraft.
>>537598093When I got into IL-2 / DCS I was expecting to learn some kind of lost navigation technology, but no, it's really just dead reckoning and landmarks.
Do picrel be worth it? It looks like a good time but I'm wary of anyone that axes $50 for an early access game.
pull up
https://msfsaddons.com/2025/09/01/echo19-is-reinventing-how-the-cessna-172-sounds-in-microsoft-flight-simulator/>Echo 19 working on C172 sound packAlso in others news, the eagerly awaited 'FlightControlSpotter' has been released so you can go planespotting virtually which I know everyone here has been dying to do.>>537561731which is funny because you mentioned that yesterday
>>537633124a friend I used to go to school with is paralized and he goes planespotting with a vr headset in msfs2024.
>>537616062>axesDon't buy early access games
>>537633283Can't he just go irl? You don't need to be mobile to do it
>>537605487you can learn radio nav too, it's not like they're building more NDBs
Just bought the SF-260 for Xplane since it was 40% off. I'll let you guys know if its good
>>537634410It looks like a decent version and complex compared to the msfs one, the cockpit might look a bit dated, I can't really tell from screenshots.
>>537634039>buy msfs>want to fly mid-century aircraft with period correct navigation>plenty of airframes available>barely any vors/ndbs
>>537634987It also has a G1000 and other versions. I hope I can select the right position as default seat since flying an sf-260 in the left seat is gay.
>>537635035It varies by country, Brazil has no VORs bar terminal ones with a ~30 nm range, but there are plenty of NDBs. Even in the US which used to have tonnes, and still has a lot, has really reduced them and still are, the end goal is to have the minimum number of radio navigational aids required for navigation, which means they'll be sparse but still usable. There are mods online that bring back navaids from the 50s when you couldn't swing a cat without hitting one.
I managed to do solid nap of the earth Durandal runs using the VORTAC of the enemy airfield to line up my attack, and popping up only at one mile out, and it got me wondering. Did they do this in real conflicts? Or are radio beacons are turned off most of the time in war?
>>537635035>https://flightsim.to/file/72415/worldwide-update-decommissioned-navigation-aidsfor 2020, but your data is all from 2006
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VIVK0wckIPUROV kino is on
I was only able to do a quick flight due to IRL stuff but it seems like a really good module, I wish the DW M-346 had this level of detail.Lots of stuff are simulated and can break which you need to repair with the free economy and REP addon. A "non" issue is that being a prop plane you need constant rudder imputs so if you don't have pedals it's kinda a hassle.
>>537635292>>537643836Is there a way with either the 50s radnav mod or the ‘06 one to have those seasons show up in littlenavmap?
>trying to fix giant trees in MSFS>bijan seasons highly rated>replaces trees with biome-appropriate bushes and shit>regularly updates with autistic obsession>timely responses to community requests>adds ugly custom 3D assets>also deletes huge regions of photogrammetry buildingswhy do all good addon devs add one thing that ruins their mod?
>>537655562You can probably load the downloaded scenery library like you would to update the airac from msfs in lnm
>>537605487>When I got into IL-2 / DCS I was expecting to learn some kind of lost navigation technology,the clock?yukyukyukyuk
>>537658571clock autist get ye gone
>>537658730back to moving map scrub
is there any way to get just flight' planes for free?
>>537658996Steal some money and then buy them
>>537658996you should be able to torrent them?
have anyone made trackir work on linux?
>>537662648trackir doesn't work on linux?
>>537664037nope and couldn't make opentrack work with their camera either
>>537664820damn.
>>537664820have you tried using AItrack as a "UDP over network" source?
>>537664820It doesn't run in WINE at all?
>>537666718no luck, aitrack doesn't recognize the camera>>537668302i don't want to use winenevermind, i thought maybe someone had a working solution. i don't want to troubleshoot it in the thread. i'll figure something out. sorry.
>>537669394>i don't want to use wineWhy not?
>>537669462helicopters
>>537669654They're not real
God fucking damnit I hate libreoffice
>>537669861trvth nuke
He's looking at me as it was my fault
>>537669863He was the pilot, it's his fault
>>537673541is this plane able to take you away from the 346?
>>537681175of course
give update me give play update me play update give me play update give me you
>trying out my old kit as getting back into simming >stick has a weird intermittent clunk that sometimes happens on the pitch axis>spend hours troubleshooting the gimbal, trying different cams, springs, spring tension and even my old warthog grip which made it feel even more noticeable>turns out both grips had an ever so slightly loose screw that was presumably allowing the body of the grip to move on the mountI'd have probably figured it out sooner but the fact both the virpil and warthog grips had the issue made me think the problem must have been the gimbal.
You'd think in a game titled "Cliffs of Dover" your favorite plane would end up being some variety of Spit or 109 or maybe even something like a Wellington, but it actually ended up being the Wildcat.Someone made a dynamic campaign mod so I'm doing that
Why don't you have a real life cockpit /simg/?
>>537697529I don't have enough space for that kind of shit.
>>537697529I need the desk space for eating too
>>537697529not autistic enough to stick to a single airframe.
>>537697529I don't even have money for rudder pedals
Might do some air trucking on Finnish Virtual Pilots, throw on an album, do some cozy supply runs...
feeling dirty buying the MiG while knowing they're going to encrypt the external model (no user liveries)i should have boycotted it god damn it
>>537697529seems dumb to me unless you have full 1:1 cockpit
>>537633285I learned my latest lesson with ksp 2 ;_;
>>537747039>KSP 2Thanks now I'm angry
This module is realistic enought that it reminded me that I would most likely crash if I ever were to try to land a plane IRL.
>>537749791Can you post a screenshot of the cockpit?
>>537755743SF-260D Military
>>537755743SF-260D Civilian
>>537755743SF-260D G-1000. Personally I prefer the MSFS cockpit.
>>537756381>>537756508>>537756695Nice variants, it does look quite dated in comparison to the msfs version, but it sounds like a more detailed addon overall. Are the flight dynamics a lot better?
>>537749791Nah, if you're monitored by an instructor you'd probably do fine on your first IRL landing.GA is pretty easy to land, except when you've got 20+kt wind lmao.
>>537757106I'm still testing it, stalls seem more realistic compared to MSFS, spins as well but I think they resolve themselves a bit too fast, especially even if you forget power on. Depth of the simulated parts is a million times better in the Xplane version.Within the normal flight envelope it seems like they are pretty close to each other, but it can also just be me that can't tell the difference. I've been on a SF-260EA IRL only once so I can't really recall much as I only did a couple of 180 turns which weren't great as I wasn't yet into flight sims at the time.The sounds are kinda meh on both versions compared to IRL, even with headphones.>>537757615Thanks, I hope so since I've been thinking about getting some glider lessons even if they are a bit expensive.>windwith crosswind I always land like shit. Currently for rudders I use the radar elevation knob from my TM warthog.
>>537685108I've given up hope :(
>>537758689storm their offices
>>537758343>I've been thinking about getting some glider lessons even if they are a bit expensive.how much?
>>537759018Around 4k€. 1400 if you're under 23.
>>537759445Glider is fantastic, I've had many students tell me it made flying an airplane way easier when they started their PPL.I can't recommend it enough.(FS2024's gliders are pretty good actually)
>>537759445Fucking hell that's tonnes, I just checked and there's a 5 day intensive gliding course near me for £950 which includes a lot, 15 flights, meal vouchers, and other things.
>>537759597That's a pretty good deal anon.With 950 pounds you can barely fly a 172 for 2 hours nowadays lmao.
>>537759018nta but ballpark for gliders here:>~$600/yr in club dues>$40-$100 towing fees per flight>$15-$30/hr glider rental>free instructionmost soaring clubs will give you an intro flight for ~$200-ish, but every club is different with fees and membership
>>537759573>FS2024's gliders are pretty good actuallyThey're not bad and supposedly they're working on improving them even more in the next update or afterwards, ridge lift is done very well and I've done more of that than using thermals. I don't like the aerotow though, unless I'm being an idiot it just seems to take you in a random direction at a random altitude and fuck off, I just stick to the motor gliders because I'm a wimp.>>537759714Yeah it's not bad, gliding is the only realistic way to get into flying as a hobby for most people, in Europe at least, it seems like loads of yanks have planes but they earn more money. Rental cost at my local airport is £235 per hour for a Piper Warrior.
>>537759882Do you need a license to fly a glider in the US? Strangely you don't in the UK, but I don't think gliding clubs would let some random fly with no experience.
>>537759573Yeah, it was one of the reasons I wanted to give it a try even if I'll never be able to afford a PPL. On top of that glider flying in the alps is amazing I've heard.>>537759597I know, welcome to Northen Italy, where our GDP is higher than 80% of Europe but our salaries have gone down year after year. I was able to find a couple of other Aviosuperfici that were both closer to me and cheaper, but I'm undecided since the ITAF instructor I talked to kept praising this one school in particular ( https://acao.it/ ) stating that one of the issues with smaller schools is that they often go by the "feels" instead of going purely by stats and data for the performances etc.
>>537760070Drive down to the souf to do it maybe
>>537760143I don't have a death wish lol. Not to mention there are very very few of those in the south. It's the same with gun ranges. Here everything is expensive, but at least they are availabe. I still remember this guy from Puglia who had a Barret in .416 and could only shoot it once a year here in our local gun range in the north because not a single range where he lived had lines above 100m and would allow his caliber.
>>537760381>not wanting to pay some dodgy mafia bloke for a lesson in an ancient glider previously used for smuggling drugs
I effing LOVE snow
>>537760641I haven't actually landed on snow in 2024 with wheels or skis, thanks for the idea, there's a ski version of the Wilga
>>537760731It's surprisingly well made (at least graphically).Never landed in snow IRL so i can't really tell if it's accurate.
>>537760590i never saw an high wing glider
I had a dream about flying a DC-3 last night, after landing I parked on a hill and it tipped over and rolled down it.
>>537760872I was looking for an old 1950s Italian glider and found that, some of the old ones are kino
>>537760031you need a license but no medical, same as balloons or sport aircraft.US does most stuff by weight, so if it's under 155lbs unpowered it's considered an ultralight and you don't need any license whatsoever
K2 here i come
Why don't those mountaineers just use a Kitfox plane instead of climbing that mountain ? Are they stupid ?
>>537764178Didn't want to pay 10 grand for a PPL
Nea...Nearly there...
>>537764640kek are you fucking taxiing up it?
>>537764423But all of their equipment already cost way more than 10 grands, those boys have plenty of money to spare.
>>537764670I'm trying
Why is this so much fun ahah
>>537765808
>>537766092That does look fun, I might have to try it out, I could do it in the crosskart too
>>537766205Finally...I made it.
>>537766703snow blindness ain't a joke
>>537769875Still better than radiation sickness
>try DCS f-18 default campaign>cbu-99 bug from before 2018 still present LMFAO
>>537589142>the french, who deserved occupation for creating french philosophyThe French (rightly) treated the Nazis as liberators, and they were pretty sore about the recent bombing campaigns when the allies "liberated" them a second time.
>>537697529VR cockpits work just as well for me, and I can have whatever one I want at any time.
>>537771829I think they were much more sore about Verdun.
>>537567453>tfw the only RC M346's that exist are composite big boy kits or completely custom built.feels bad man
>>537773973>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E-rXbJpuljcthese ones? They look hard to fly.
>>537775014Yeah like that, I suspect that's someone's project. Real turbines are cool but way too expensive for me. For EDFs I like to go with 70mm at the most because that means they're small/light enough I can belly land them on the fields near my house. Unfortunately no one makes a foam kit in that size.
>>537775663that sucks.
as someone starting an electrician course is this game any good for learning purposes? I would also appreciate if anyone has beginner materials
>>537777774you should probably try Engineering Games General, this is much more vehicle simulation oriented.
>>537777774It looks very gamey and repairing devices isn't what electricians do, but there might be something to learn from it, and it looks fun enough.>>537777878/egg/ is 90% factorio, he's better off staying here as he won't get a response there
>>537777774Just start poking around in the wiring in your house, it's free and I know you have some.
Reminder that sunlight can mess up trackir so close all the blinds, shut all the windows, turn off the lights and live in complete darkness for optimum simming.
>>537785187
>>537785187If you're flying at night and you aren't living in a world of self-imposed darkness then you're doing it wrong
>>537785458I only fly real time, which does mean that I've never flown in Japan or Australia kek, can catch NZ in the evening though.
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