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>Encyclopedia Strangereal
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>New /aceg/ MEGA
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>PA Twitter (JP)
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>AC7:
Shootout Saturday is back! /aceg/ rooms are open every Sat at 2030 CEST/1430 EDT, with only three rules:
>put on an /aceg/ tag in your name before you boot the game
>no EML/QAAM/SASM
>in Roca Roja, use only air-to-ground weapons in the tunnel

>Resources:
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Misc Stuff:
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Because it bears repeating:
>Skill and guts are required here
>Be a buddy, not a border
>All planes are beautiful dreams
>DELAY THE FINAL ATTACK

FAQ:
>Has the Project Wingman update dropped yet?
Haha...

>Is there any AC8 news yet?
No.

>Has a PS2 trilogy remake been announced yet?
No.
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wonder if Kono will put the Mig-41 in AC8 , not the first time a prototype would make it
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>>536138142
Su-75 and thats it
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>>536138142
>Mig-41
first I'm hearing of it
>looks like a stealth Mig 29
can't really accuse Mikoyan of not sticking to their guns
I'd use it for a few missions though
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>>536138142
Why would he put a concept that never had an known official design in the game? FB-22, S-32 & Su-75 at lest had drawings or a mockup made
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Its bunny day so posting the flying bunny
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>>536147626
Why are you posting clouds
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>>536148275
Might as well
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Just rename this to Plane Photos General at this point
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>>536151052
If you got something game or plane related to talk about by all means go right ahead. Otherwise its about all we have left to do. Beyond the usual Friday Kono tweet.
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Let's talk about AC4 being overrated
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I hope that we'll start with third world tier planes that are falling apart as the starter planes since having the F-16 be the plebeiian starter plane in AC7 was quite weird.
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>>536153423
>start with third world tier planes
Ok lets do it
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>>536153423
Dude don't make me use the F-4 again.
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>>536153423
>game start in a "reserve squadron" of the sotoa air force
>only equiped with old planes like mirage F1's
>suddently Yuktobanian blips on radar
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>>536155528
Make it more of a ad hoc unit you have 5 planes but only one of each could be made ready. Like you got an F1, Jaguar, A-4, F-8, A-37 to pick from.
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>>536159795
Ah forgot its not your squad gets to pick the type no you have those 5 planes only and you have to decide who will be flying what out of those 5
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The world will change...
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>>536161361
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>>536131267
Tibi Ipsi Crede?
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>>536138142
I don't know why but I think that nose looks so cute and appealing
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>>536169735
Modernized Mig-21 nose
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>Ammo now empty
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Does Strangereal have 3rd world countries or can everyone deploy 1000+ 4th gen fighter jets?
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>>536176370
Have you played 6 or X?
Yes as well as 5th gen + airships
Remember Osea has aircraft junkyards not boneyards junk yards planes are as common to them as cars are to us.
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>>536176370
Primeva and Boscali are bottom tier Strangereal countries in my headcanon
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>>536177138
Every plane having its gear light on is a glitch? or someone didn't program it right?
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>>536178302
Mission editor doesn't let you spawn planes turned off right now, best you can do is set them to a "neutral" faction so they don't move. Lights are always on if the gear is down.
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>>536176674
to be fair , leasath was able to build Fenrir etc cause of the money aurelia gave them , which make you wonder how gigantic the fucking amount was and how is it that nobody before Genette looked it up wondered : "jee where the fuck are those billions going ?"
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>>536177073
>No less than five different models on the deck
We gotta go back
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>>536138142
>Prototype
It's not real. Not even a real project. It's an original work of a concept artist.
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>>536177138
>if you don't have at least a USAF worth of shit in your inventory, you're Strangereal's laughingstock
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>>536199821
>If you don't have a superplane program, you're not just a poorfag, you're goddamned broke
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Ace Combat in space. What would you want?
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>>536217119
I would not want Ace Combat in space.
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>>536217790
I don't mean Ace Combat in space as in Namco devoting resources to an Ace Combat game but in space, thus depriving you of an Ace Combat game about flying planes. If someone were to make a space game with heavy Ace Combat inspiration, what are some things you might want or wish to see?
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>>536176370
I mean Estovakia was in a long protracted civil war, but 6 still hapenned.
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>>536217119
Basically Freespace 2 but with a higher budget. I'm in love with that fucking game.
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There is nothing more infuriating than the client-based hitreg system making flares useless
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>>536208138
>bro , you dont have a flying fortress the size of a city ? LMAO HOW BROKE ARE YOU ?
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Where do Strangereal black and asian people come from
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CzVPNRE-g2k
>so big that the whole LRSSG squadron is stuck inside the model at the start
lmao
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>>536235027
belkans
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>>536235027
North Devada
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>>536136076
absolutely true
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>>536217119
Freespace with R-Type ships would be nice.
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Plen
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>>536308789
Have any AC games ever done a mission where the player takes off from highways?
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>>536319307
The Unsung War from The Unsung War is a highway takeoff
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>>536217119
I would kill for a Star Wars game that plays exactly like AC. None of this dicking around with power settings and inertia drift and cooldowns, just fucking give me WW2 With Missiles.
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>>536322785
I'd definitely be going for true Newtonian flight with an optional tether applied that becomes a lot less optional during atmospheric flight.
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>>536217119
Good mechanical designs.
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>>536322785
>power settings and inertia drift and cooldowns
Yeah, this is why I couldn't get into Squadrons. That, and the aviator control scheme being inefficient.
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>>536282781
My absolute buddy. Fleet actions against the Bydo would be fucking mental.
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>>536176370
Did the games even explain how they make planes like candies? I mean I guess Infinity sorta explained how things work with the replicator factories.
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<<yo buddy , still alive ?>>
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>>536343908
Ace Combat 5 does, kinda
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Every time I activate a booster my team gets erased and I die to some bullshit...
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Repostan my Data Link-free build for the Mirage and F-16C.
>The Musketeer and the Dumbass
>Blisk 2
>VCE 2
>Flaps 3
>SupMan 2
>Airbrake 2
>MSL Homing 2
>MSL Damage 2
>GUN Damage 2
In terms of pure performance, the Mirage will likely surprise you: you'll find yourself keeping up with most of the aircraft you'll meet. What really hinders it is its sole A2A SPW, the 4AAM.
So, if you have a decent fighter, but a shit SPW and no Data-Link, what do you use? Guns.
The F-16 is in a similar boat, except it doesn't even have good performance. I'd only recommend using it in rooms full of actual bottom of the barrel nuggets. Fly it with the default emblem for maximum effect.
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Yes(!) Data-Link Gripen E.
>The Cost-Effective Privateer
>Blisk 2
>VCE 2
>Flaps 3
>SupMan 2
>MSL Homing 2
>MSL Damage 2
>GUN Damage 2
>Data-Link
This has pretty much replaced my MiG-35 build, desu. The Gripen offers you solid performance and 6AAM in a very low-cost package. With 6AAM equipped, you can still somehow squeeze under a 2250 Cost limit.
Get out there and give those Fulcrums and Fishbeds a nasty surprise.
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If development is going to take this long, I will not settle for Fenrir just being in 8. It must have some story relevance, like a cool enemy squadron using it. Anyway, what time are we gonna get a room going later?
>>536217119
Not space. Gas giant planet, with missions in different parts of the atmosphere which affect flight performance.
>>536363117
>no Data-Link
But why?
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No stealth, BVR hunter YF-23.
>The new Colonel
>Blisk 2
>VCE 2
>Flaps 3
>SupMan 2
>SPW Homing 2
>SPW Speed 2
>SPW Damage 2
>Anti-stealth radar
An answer to every room becoming BVR central. The YF-23 has surprisingly good maneuverability, which this build can leverage in case you get tailed by someone who prefers dogfighting.
Anti-stealth isn't a miracle solution, but it's good enough to keep track of someone with a stealth-focused build.
>>536366130
Looping missiles are cringe and I don't like using them.
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>>536363117
>>536365339
>>536366768
Guide updated, all's well in the world.
>>536366130
>Not space. Gas giant planet, with missions in different parts of the atmosphere which affect flight performance.
I think there's a game with this exact premise in development, called Nova Squadron. The demo didn't work on my M+KB, though.
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>>536334672
I hope the Tactics remake gives them enough reason to branch into another genre.
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>>536366130
>Not space. Gas giant planet, with missions in different parts of the atmosphere which affect flight performance.
Strangely enough, been considering this.
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Shootout in 30 mins?
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>>536383795
Are you hosting buddy?
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Made a room, hop in.
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Hopping in, sorry I'm late
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>five players finishing within 15k points of each other
Holy shit that was close
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I FUCKING FORGOT TO CHANGE PLANES
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>manage to get mvp on my last match with the F-35C
Please Kono give her a better SpW selection on AC8.
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That's it for me tonight buddies, felt good flying with you again.
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Thanks for the games, shame I had to drop out early. Those 3v3s were rough. What fairy dust did they fuel the TGM SU-57 with? Could not get a read on how to approach it.
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/aceg/, the /v/ thread made light to the fatc you entered your airplane to a competition with experts looking over it. Do you still have the interview? I'd like to see it.
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>>536411224
hey I was the buddy flying the TGM SU-57 and the aircraft has a really big flaw and some quirks, bad energy retention and having decent to mediocre handling at 1400 to 600 kph. I only PSM with it to force an overshoot so I can escape and regain energy (it's crazy handling kicks in at +1900kph)
TL;DR the aircraft is highly aggresive but forces you to break away to regain energy a lot
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>>536413128
https://hushkit.net/2020/03/02/design-contest-3-requirement-570-part-1/
Part 2 never ever...
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>>536414130
>ruinously expensive
what did you mean by this /aceg/?
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>>536424274
Superplen development programs usually don't care about cost.
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TGA for sure...
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>>536425061
Varcolac probably being the sole exception.
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>>536425061
The Nosferatu got its name because it was accused of sucking the Estovakian economy dry.
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The /v/alkan War
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>>536473403
Why do artists insist on having the most unreadable signatures known to man
>>536487563
Who's Yuktobania?
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>>536217119
Would be very boring unless it would take space in massive space stations, asteroid fields. G-Police 2 had space missions towards the end and it was fairly boring, AC3 did too and the best thing they came up with was destroying 4 satellites.

I'd rather have a more futuristic ace combat games like AC3
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so what was their fucking problem ?
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>>536524101
Too much demon summoning and cannibalism.
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>>536169578
"Believe in yourself"
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>>536524101
The Coffin of Otto and Elke
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>>536524101
wincest
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Are all of you guys like big top gun & tom cruise fans? Its how i basically imagine you guys
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>>536554402
Hot Shots was better.
But yes, Top Gun is responsible for the boom in combat flight arcade games in the late 80s and early 90s, of which the early Ace Combat games (Air Combat back then) were part of. That DNA will always be in the series.
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>>536554402
I like it a reasonable degree.
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Thanks to whomever mentioned the mod for getting the VR missions on PC last thread. Nice to be in thee air with my man Sky Eye.
>>536554402
Honestly, Top Gun was not a great, and the new one is not good. I'm just an autist who likes planes. Did like Yukikaze though, that captured the inhuman appeal of fighters; being so much higher and faster than nature ever intended for humans
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First top gun was okay, i was sad goose died mainly. I never saw the new one
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>>536581361
If you completely ignore any real world parallels the second one's cool.
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>>536554402
I haven't even seen Top Gun.
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>ac7 released almost 7 years ago
>no news for a sequel except "we're working on it"
>pw released almost 5 years ago
>only released a story DLC, without even adding any planes
maybe the arcade flight genre is just cursed
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>>536491353
>Who's Yuktobania?
/mu/
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>>536617626
Maybe Kono is a lazy shit
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>>536554402
Top Gun's alright, but not great - and Tom Cruise is insane.
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>>536554402
I like both Top Gun movies, even with the knowledge that they are for all intents and purposes just US Navy ads. The original movie made me like aviator shades, at least.
As for Tom Cruise, his acting is quite respectable, but I really fucking dislike anyone who peddles an openly malicious cult of degenerate scam artists.
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you think we'll ever get a good plane anime this decade
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>>536645182
Better if it's one that isn't autistically obsessed with Japanese aircraft specifically.
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Fuck a Zero remake. Do another AC2 remake instead for my nigga Phoenix, the ultimate mercenary.
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How would you make a non-shit Yukikaze game?
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>>536652064
I'd base it on the backstory war instead of the events of the anime, and make it Ace Combat with the atmosphere of SMT Strange Journey.
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>>536617626
>only released a story DLC, without even adding any planes
and i fucking remember them talking about adding some , we got betrayed
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>>536652064
https://x.com/ZZhako/status/1959911984062971933
Somebody is making one right now.
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>>536663584
Neat
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Flexible RAM seals on the leading edge slats for the J20 spotted recently.
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>>536654426
Threadly reminder that PW devs are lazy shitters who can't be trusted with your money.
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>>536687239
matthew spinning up yet another PW-esque indie fighter jet project while the artbook still hasnt come out...
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Assuming Trigger is a singularity, did Osea kill off Blaze and Cipher the same way they tried to do to Trigger with the Mimic Squadron?
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>>536693172
no because the singularity thing is just some baloney a DEI hire came up with in 2019 because Osean grok told him so
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>bought a ps2 and got a hdd + opl
>decide to replay the ace combat games on actual hardware this time
>keep losing max thrust because i'm not pressing the trigger hard enough
ahhhh FUCK these pressure sensitive shoulder buttons, this controller sucks man. it's not even a problem with the controller either since i tested all the pressure sensitive buttons on the ps2 with an .elf, this shit really just wants to keep my finger hard on that shit 24/7
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>>536681336
I assure you that it's not typical for the front to fall off.
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>>536705836
There will come a time that playing the ps2 trilogy on original hardware becomes very difficult. With aftermarket controllers not being sensitive enough and all the OG controllers worn out. Feels bad.
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>>536152596
yep, AC3 is so much better
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>>536693172
They probably retired and thus became a non-factor
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Now,
is the time to love,
is the time to live,
is the time to dream!
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plens
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>>536325954
I like this design
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>>536645182
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gb0GmBZU_lU

Hmm so Krauts & Dragons then
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Have anyone here played Innocent Aces on Dolphin? I wanna play it but I'm clueless as to how to map my controller.
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>>536693172
>Blaze
Most likely went to space with Nagase
>Cipher
Living the good life on a private island with his planes and his bitches
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>>536758925
I did.
>I'm clueless as to how to map my controller
?
You do know the game is compatible with Gamecube controllers, right? Just plug your gamepad in, fiddle with the emulator and in-game settings a bit, and you should be good to go.
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Tiny plens?
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>>536760283
5 ft 11 vs 6 ft
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><<What the hell?! What is this bullshi--!>>
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MiG-21 LanceR skin when
bonus points if it's my wife's "Saber" MiG instead
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>>536778519
Two seater Mig-21's look as strange as the two seat Typhoon.
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>>536554402
Ehh, I like Top Guns because of the vibes more than the planes if anything. Which is why I didn't like the new one as much.
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>>536509136
>Would be very boring unless it would take space in massive space stations, asteroid fields.
The goal of my personal project is to eventually get there. The hardest part of everything will be figuring out how to put together multiple flight models. Or maybe that'll be the easy part and the hard part will be hand-generating a million custom art assets. The second one sounds likely to be more difficult.
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>>536761018
The V in V1 stands for Vampire de Havilland...
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>Evade missile
>Still blow up
Rightttt........
>Restart now the Su-32 at the start of the level is stuck in a loop
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>>536790567
luv twin boom plens, simple as
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In hindsight should we have made the FB-22 given the world didn't turn out like people were planning for?

A white skin for FB-22 doesn't look to bad didn't know one was made for it. Or is that just the result of messing with the image to hide the fact your YT thumbnail is just a screenshot from 7?
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>>536797238
Can you that again but in English?
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>>536799284
Alright dumbass
FB-22 should it have been built Yes or No
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>>536797238
>>536800876
An F-22 and an F-15E taking turns securing the airspace and decimating ground targets costs a lot less than developing a new variant of the F-22 that could do those two things on its own.
Nowadays F-35s can do those two things on its own while operating from a carrier
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>>536797238
Considering the main threats the US faced the last few decades, probably not. With the B-21 coming online it would be difficult to justify, but I guess it would’ve been nice to have more or less a stealthy F-111
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>>536797238
>>536799284
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how to get cute pilot tomboy gf
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>>536806047
You get a cute gf, and slowly introduce the pilot and tomboy bits in her diet
t. worked for me
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>>536617626
>>536654426
Unless they add new weapons and improve the flight model I don't see much point to adding new planes, they'd just feel the same like most already do.
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>>536811420
Uhh every single game has a different flight model. 8's flight model won't be the same as 7 just like its always been.
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Cold War thinking + Belka = This image
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>8
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>never
>ever
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>>536812203
I'm talking about Project Wingman. Devs said they wanted to add more planes, and some people are still hoping they do, but with the super small selection of special weapons and the shallow flight model there really isn't much space to make the planes feel meaningfully different.
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F-22's are cool and all but goddamn do I hate working outside anywhere near them. Motherfuckers are so loud I can't even talk to my coworker standing right next to me. Any other jet goes over I can at least make do but fucking hell why is a stealth jet so goddamn loud?
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>>536837905
You should hear the F-35 then.
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>>536837950
I have, but I only ever go near the naval base for air shows. I have to work within earshot of the air base. What sucks is you don't have to be right next to the damn base, you just have to be in its airspace. That's a big chunk of the city, I literally don't know why anyone would want to live under all that. Fighter jets are fucking cool but I don't want that migraine every damn day.
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>>536820002
when did people stop using duper?
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What does /aceg/ think of Sukhoi witches?
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>>536851531
never heard of it before, what is it?
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>>536851531
>T-4
>gun under the nose
>this implies she strafes targets at Mach 3
I think I like batshit insanity.
>>536852198
Apparently she's from a game called Reverse:1999, so imagine my disappointment when there was no Eagle Transporter in sight.
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>>536852774
>Reverse:1999,
Oh, I played the prologue of that before realising that I only have mental capacity to keep up with only two gachas at a time.
>>536851531
She looks neat.
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>>536851531
I'm from the other side myself.
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>>536852198
>>536852815
She's Lilya, Reverse 1999's resident underage alcoholic and Sukhoi appreciator:
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L_LCZ7DG_tQ
Also, her identification number is a reference to a real incident:
https://theaviationgeekclub.com/the-story-of-the-norwegian-air-force-p-3-orion-that-was-damaged-in-a-collision-with-a-soviet-su-27-flanker-over-the-barents-sea/
>>536852774
The game actually has the broom's specs somewhere, I'll see if I can find them.
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>>536852774
>>536855278
Here they are. Not quite Mach 3, but getting there.
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>>536800876
No
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>>536837904
......oopps
Anyways I've completely given up on anything happening with that game. The state it is in now is what I expect it will always be. Horribly coded clouds that did nothing beyond require more system power to run. More planes never beyond the mod to unlock what is already sitting in the game files. Its a finished product with updates to fix actual issues like the clouds never.
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>>536837905
>loud
The demon loudly announces its presence so all shall know what fear is.

>Stealth planes ain't got nothing on what they use to do back in the cold war years
>Fly at tree top level over the neighborhood at full thrust
That was loud
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>>536855278
>The incident
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>>536217119
already exists
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5YVSLyIfXXA
a full space thing doesn't really work though, it's easily disorientating due the lack of a true horizon indicator and so on
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>>536886549
Yeah okay that's nice but WHERE'S THE FUCKING GAME
SHOW US SOMETHING
A SCREENSHOT, A PLANE MODEL, SOME STORY DETAILS
FUCKING ANYTHING
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>>536886657
i honestly memoryholed this mission. that whole sequence of missions just felt like a terrible fever dream.
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>>536886901
Don't worry I'm on it, I'll report back soon with my findings.
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>>536887380
Ahhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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>>536887380
Leiutenant Dan baby chicken
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>>536837905
>>536837950
>>536838201
Are there quiet fighter jets?
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>>536908320
Short answer: no. Quiet is relative. The quietest jet engines are still going to be as loud as as noisy vacuum cleaner, and being up in the air means more distance for the noise to propagate.
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>>536910645
>jet engine = noisy vacuum cleaner
good to know
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Is Project Wingman worth using VR for? I have an index but I understand it's played with the headset but normal controller?
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>>536921783
Absolutely,
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>>536908320
No, but having been around F-22s, F-15s, F/A-18s, and T-5s, I can objectively say the F-22 is far louder than and of those others at normal speeds. Like if a hornet is flying at full burn right over my fucking head at an air show, sure it's loud as shit, but when an F-22 is just doing touch-and-go's in my vicinity I cannot speak to someone standing right next to me.
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>>536837950
Can confirm F-35s are loud motherfuckers, my country's air force switched from F-16s and while those weren't quiet during training exercises, the F-35s are MUCH louder.
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>>536921783
yes
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Well?
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>>536938413
In regards to clothing, the Third Geneva Convention states that POW clothing must be adequate for the climate in which the POWs are interned, supplied in sufficient quantities and that captured enemy uniforms should be made available to POWs if suitable for the climate.
It also notes that the detaining power is prohibited from enacting "outrages upon personal dignity, in particular, humiliating and degrading treatment" onto POWs; whether forcing all of the POWs to wear maid outfits is an outrage upon personal dignity is something up to the Hague to decide, I'm afraid.
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>>536941825
So we ship them to Canada then? If anyone can find out its out hockey playing maple syrup loving brothers from the north.
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>>536951245
I still need to watch that anime.
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What if Ace Combat but you play as an AD Tank?
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>>536952048
>mission starts
>eat 2 STDMs or a single xAGM from the resident mute psycho
>die
Great game you got there
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>>536952048
thats just battlefield
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>>536953009
Just shoot down the missiles before they hit you, dumbass. That's why an AD tank instead of a regular AA.
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>>536952048
>play against MiG-31
fun
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>>536886901
Based on that tweet the game is in the localization stage already, surely it's already far enough in production phase at this point.
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>>536952048
>Mission 1
>be stuck in a Pantsir
>expend all your shitty MCLOS missiles on an approaching FPV
>miss anyway
>die in the 30mm ammo cookoff, in your $15 million AD tank, to a $200 drone
>get posted on a Strangechan rekt thread
>nobody gives a single (You) because they're jerking off to footage of an Osean MiG-21 strafing a refinery
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>>536952048
Stop looking for ways to turn ace combat into something boring
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What if ace combat but underwater
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>>537005420
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What if ace combat but in the air, with airplanes
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>>537005420
You can play that right now this very second
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>>536979839
I'll say it again Kono got way to traumatized from the development hell 7 got stuck in. Thus no trailer no nothing will be announced or shown until the game is 100% complete.
Then for those 4-5 months before release Kono's tism will kick in again and they will spend that time optimizing the game even more and making it look more pretty like they did with a couple of things in 7 before release.
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>>537012041
I'm still certain we'll get something official from PA about AC8 this year. There's no way all this vagueposting about gamedev from Kono these past few months when it was basically radio silence before that since the last DLC isnt an indicator of something.
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>>537015507
Month #9 is just a few more days away so they still have time to announce something and when they do that is when I know the game is fully completed.
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THE most aesthetic AWACS bar none.
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>>537036958
Nah that just looks like someone couldn't follow the instruction sheet and well yeah.....
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Ace Combat X deserves Ace Combat 5's place in the Holy Trinity.
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>>537046236
The Holy Trinity is only because they were all PS2 games at a time when the 360 had fuckall for emulation.
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>>537046967
acx is psp
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Almost never run into the E-3 once the mission starts
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>>537046236
If anything it should take 4's place. ACX is AC4 but fun.
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>>537051603
>>537053991
Isn't that the E-2?
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>>537054847
I.....ahhhh fuck got my AWACS numbers switched
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>>537046236
People hate on AC5 too much.
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>>537056780
And love AC4 too much.
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>>537057378
But love 3 and 0 juuuust the right amount.
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>>537056780
its always zero-fags
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0>5>4 simple as
you only cream yourselves over 4 because it was babby's first ps2 plen game when you were kids
5 and 0 do everything better, except maybe the narrative style
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Zero is objectively the best. The story's great and delves deeper into Strangereal lore than any other game. Plus that Mercenary-Soldier-Knight system makes it almost a fresh game every playthrough.

F-16 crashed and burned in Poland

https://youtu.be/G7tOCjJg7lo?si=Xhvf8jal_zkcbT2R
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I think all three are fine. :)
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>>537058270
Actually I think 3 is overrated.
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Zero is the only good one out of the three, the holy trilogy thing is just a moniker used by easily impressionable retards to build hype.
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>>537059492
We are enemies, you and I.
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>>537058697
Pulled off his move to close the ground and the dude didn't even have time to eject. Airshow work can be a very dangerous and deadly job
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In less grim new the Poles are upgrading their F-16C's
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Page 10 again?
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I think we've got actual kino incoming
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>starwars in the big '25
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>>537092584
this is like the fiftieth in-progress stars war show or movie that they've announced
half of them end up getting shitcanned anyways
whatever
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>>537055070
Happens to the best of us, buddy. I didn't even know it was in AC5, so it's a real treat.
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Warning and Control System,
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AWACS?
more like GAYWACS
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>>537105084
It's actually in full production now.
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>>537092584
Nah fuck off. DisneyWars is irredeemable garbage and this won't be any different.
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>>537105084
Astonishingly, this one is actually cast and starting filming right now. Given the star-studded cast, which is altogether unusual for Star Wars, I suspect it's something of a "Fuck everything we need asses in seats NOW" production.
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>>537092584
Imagine being this excited about Tranny Wars
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>>537126829
Fuck off tourist
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>>537127000
Star Wars hasn't produced anything worth anyone's time or emotional investment in decades
After watching disney's trilogy I don't understand how anyone could possibly want more of nuWars
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>>537127976
>After watching disney's trilogy I don't understand how anyone could possibly want more of nuWars
Basedlennials and Gen Xers who just cannot let go.
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>>537127000
>tourist
Anon Ive been here on /aceg/ since 2014. Enjoyed Star Wars before you were ever even born. Ace Combat too btw.

And that's why you don't choose a random ad hominem on the internet.

Keep enjoying your Tra ny Wars. It's all yours.
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>>537058697
RIP Slab. At least he was probably passed out when the impact happened.
>>537092584
Why would I watch this when I can read the old Rogue Squadron books or play the old games?
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Ground forces singularities in strangereal probably be tank commanders that drift their tanks around like its GUP
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Cat and Eagle. And Hawk too, I guess.
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Hog
>WARNING
>FRAGILE DO NOT IMPACT
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up the exhaust
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low angles
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>>537198185
Nice man! I was there two months ago.
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>>537204075
Surprisingly cool museum. Had the day off so I decided to check it out, really wish I showed up earlier to have more time there. Came for the Blackbird, pleasantly surprised by Spruce Goose, Nighthawk, and the Titan II ICBM.
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<< Pull Up! >>
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>>537149954
Oh I'm sorry, I figured that someone who had actually stuck around here for a decent period of time wouldn't be the sort of retard who appends 'tranny' to literally everything he doesn't like.
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>4
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Nyuuuuum
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>>537198185
>>537198675
>>537199262
>>537199551
>>537199782
>>537200026
L E W D
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ok I'll say it
the f-117 is an extremely ugly plane
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>>537252429
I love it all the same, buddy, it's the cool kind of ugly
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>>537252429
I guess they didn't call it the wobbly goblin for nothing
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>>537252429
You're not wrong
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>>537222657
>5
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>>537268710
You were supposed to do that at page 9 (exclamation point)
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>>537268772
you're telling me i'm not allowed to just count now? aceg has been taken over by woke dei
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>>537269110
Yes. This man is a criminal.
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>>537269187
What kind of fraud did he commit?
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>>537252429
you could die tomorrow and it wouldn't affect me
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>>537276994
it would still be an ugly plane
the F-4 too, btw
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Shootout?
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>>537287297
Opened a room, get in.
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>>537287297
>>537289280
Gotta pass tonight, not feeling all that well
t. /aceg/ RP
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how do I start caring again
ac8...
ac8 save me please.
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>>537300694
PW-Mk. I
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>>537300694
SFB-81 Darkreach
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>>537302794
Almost chudposted. I'll just say that I wish Pixy burned up in his cockpit.
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Buddies….. I don’t even think I could find time to play 8 if it ever comes out. I would buy it of course, probably on sale, but the time?
This could be the end of new vidya games for me.
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>>537311376
you were warned not to get a gf and especially not to have children
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Man, we would not survive against Scinfaxi
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>>537320625
We'd be great against Stonehenge, though.
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Good lord /vg/ has been in full burner.
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>9
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TGA is just a couple weeks away...
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>>537355392
We've already seen the roster, Bamco's got nothing for us unless it's a surprise reveal.
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Buddies, mind if I post an airship I've drawn? I'd like some feedback on its design.
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>>537363771
I don't know what makes you think you gotta ask, anon.
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>>537364349
Alright, buddy, here goes. It's a seaplane armed with heavy anti-ship missiles (think something in the same weight class as a Granit/Shipwreck, though obviously with a much shorter range since it's the not!50s-Popular-Science) and not!Sea Sparrows (the circles on top are rotating launchers partly inspired by, the rectangles tilt and reveal the missiles), and it's classified as a cruiser in-setting; it's supposed to hunt down heavier ships (either other capital combatants or freighters) and fuck off before they can retaliate (the intended enemy has worse missile tech). I'll refine the front and side views sometime today.
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>I never finished the /aceg/ Mirage livery
FUG
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>>537374872
I like it.
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>>537395628
It boggles my mind that the Avenger II was never featured in an AC game, but the fucking Senior Peg was in AC2 (as the XB-10).
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>>537395628
if featureless triangles are the future of military aviation design that's pretty lame and sad
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>>537401943
The future you fear is the one from 30 years ago
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>>537402203
yes thats how military aviation works
the world's most advanced and capable jet fighter is older than many posters here
I shudder to think what ugly planes are being designed secretly today that will be in service in the 2050s
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>>537402380
>what ugly planes are being designed secretly today that will be in service in the 2050s
I don't know if the F-47 is even going to even be in service by 2059
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>>537401098
>Senior Peg
is there a junior peg
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>>537403792
Two
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>>537406828
I've heard of/seen/played as the Have Blue before, but never realised the size difference.
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>>537358164
There's always a surprise when it comes to TGA.
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>>537374872
I'm weak to seaplanes. I wish they were more viable IRL. I assume those are floats/pontoons on the ends?
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>>537389593
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>captcha: V2008
>>537406961
Such is life when you're a demonstrator.
>>537425042
>I'm weak to seaplanes. I wish they were more viable IRL.
You and me both, buddy. The only reason this thing is even feasible in-setting is that it can make its own fuel-equivalent on board.
>I assume those are floats/pontoons on the ends?
Yup! They get two turrets and a side-facing radar. The constant stresses inflicted on them make maintaining them horrible.
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Is Alect Squadron Fenrir the hardest bossfight in all of Ace Combat?
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>>537456047
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LTLh1qfC-go
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>>537456540
*
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>>537457563
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>>537456540
>>537457563
>>537457812
ACX is truly underrated as fuck
If any AC game deserves the remaster treatment that is it
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>>537456047
Depends.
How do we determine hardness, based on just on how the bossfight is, or do we account for how good (or bad) the plane the player can bring is too?
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https://x.com/PROJECT_ACES/status/1962335097899626570/
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>>537467120
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fpX0MK_7prc
I do get the feeling AC3 is a personal favourite for some of the higher ups at PA.
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>>537467260
The co-director for AC3 is literally Bandai Namco Aces' CEO.
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>>536886657
>a full space thing doesn't really work though, it's easily disorientating due the lack of a true horizon indicator and so on
You end up feeling like a fish in a big, deep ocean rather than being a bird in the sky. Especially when you have truer movement that doesn't contend as much with gravity or lift, shit gets bonkers.
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>>537432272
Holy shmoley.
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>>537432272
>Russian version is about ass rape
Of course.
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>>537480176
reminds me of Ecco
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>>537496507
do you think their altitudes mean anything
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>>537506692
It's just their respective games' release order.
>XFA-27 (AC2, 1997)
>Morgan (ACZ, 2006)
>Nosferatu (AC6, 2007)
>Strike Wyvern (AC7, 2019)
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>>537511549
>Strike Wyvern
right, makes sense now. ty
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Original Wyvern looks better
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A princess is playing AC5
https://www.youtube.com/live/_g-hpMjPF7s
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>>537513547
That's both of us in agreement, buddy. It's so much cleaner.
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>>537506692
attitude is everything d00d
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Bump!
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>>537501039
A few science fiction properties like the BSG remake and The Expanse have played with it, and modern space games generally have the option for it. You have tightly controlled and computer-managed flight in what amounts to cruise control, but once combat comes onto the table you're disabling that and engaging in controlled tumbling and spinning and the use of lots and lots of weapons. Corrections, counter-corrections, and weapons that counter-correct to counter the counter-corrections.
I'm currently struggling trying to design some good ships. Sort of divided between styles. Because I'm going for your general light space game craft. Walkable, cargo room, etc. But a key point of frustration is the cockpit. Some people prefer a more open cockpit. Some people prefer a plane-style cockpit with a nose on it. Getting tempted to just create a modular system where people can pick their desired cockpit system and roll with whatever.
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with all this MGS3 talk can you believe they cant just remake ac0

fuckin tornado-ass plane
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>>537578269
i don't like the mgs3 remake
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>>537578269
>tornado-ass
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Battlefield just gave the F-35 a Spitfire style skin. It's pretty slick.
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>>537598206
2042 and 6 have some neat details for fighter jets in general tee bee aitch
like how you can hear the pilot doing anti GLOC breathing on hard turns, flares that eject out of their actual dispensers, exhaust heat blur that isnt a static ball like in AC7...
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>>537598206
WW2 RAF camo looks nice on anything
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you better be taking notes....
(she's literally taking notes for the plot)
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>>537636823
what if you put it on german planes
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>>537092584
Announced Rouge Squad movie
It was canceled
>Now this
I'll believe it when I see it playing in theaters

>Star Wars Starfighter
>yfw its this game turned into a movie
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>>537647397
No exceptions
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>>537184473
Its this guy right here
If you have 6 go play Anea Landing his tank launches from the landing ship and drives a few thousand feet across the ocean before hitting land

>water bah!!! that's just a wet road to drive on nothing more.
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>>537636823
Even X-32?

>>537638141
>Missed Luna playing 5
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>>537654552
Fucker got the DD Challenger.
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>>537467463
>>537467260
alright next month its time for Ace Jesus
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>Get PSP out to play a bit of X on original hardware
>Sees brown dried battery acid around one of the air holes on the battery side as well as some near the umd door
Yeah battery leaked out over the years it was a very slow leak as the case adsorbed it with no visual trace of this on the case.
>Memory stick had some dried acid on it but appears to be fine nothing looks eaten into on it.
Batteries for a psp are cheap I could try and clean everything up and see if she still works or just go buy a refurbish one
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>>537674316
at least it didn't explode
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>>537675828
Yeah so I have a chance of getting it to work again unless some of the capacitors have decided they wish to explode.
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>>537678281
no retard get rid of it
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>>537678370
I don't mean the battery I meant the psp itself of course the battery is going in the trash its completely useless now.
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Don't see them in the air very often
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HAHHA
>You just know the Top Gun jokes are everywhere with this training unit
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If F-5 returns in 8 I want this livery
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Sir are you sure this plane can retake Griswall?
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>>537690385
If the fucking Aurelian Liberation Corps could, a C-47 can
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Buddy
Unexpected but I like the idea of it
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Physics based flight models are way more fun than abstract ones desu.
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>>537695416
Now I want to see a C-47 evading Meson Cannon fire as someone in the back is firing off rpg rounds at each cannon.
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>>537697167
>TIME TO LEAVE THEM ALL BEHIIIIIIND
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>>537724950
Bono just can't get away from the paparazzi, can he?
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>>537725202
No matter how high you fly you have to land and deal with paparazzi at some point.
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Just who is General, and why the fuck are they everywhere?
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>>537728909
Cute but I'm still not playing that horse gacha shit.
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Laser turret platforms.
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>>537732836
Lots of drones too.
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I really fucking hate dick-waving parades.
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>>537737363
I love them. America should do more of it too.
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>>537737363
They're cool, we get to see lots of neat gadgets.
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>>537737540
We already do.
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No chink plen?
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0130 and change,
The skies were dark, with the towns mandatory blackouts….
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>>537714117
Puff the Magic Dragon lives well into the 2020s.
>>537737363
That makes two of us, buddy.
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AWACS in space!
Nebulous Fleet Command added carriers which have been catastrophic for the balance of the game, but the awacs has this cool sawtooth-countershade livery. Didn't a buddy make a similar one for the mirage recently?
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>>537732836
Big lasers do the Chinese just suck at lasers or is Xi just compensating for something.
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>>537768602
>selatapurans before the lighthouse war going to work every morning
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Someone made their T-38 have some classic style to it.
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>>537768602
The things that crawl across my feed sometimes.
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>>537777054
Reminds me of another airship
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Something ain't right here
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Always did like this stage its a shame they didn't reuse it in 7
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The long road never ends
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>>537822838
I see that shark a lot on Chinese Flankers. Do they just keep photographing the same unit? Or is it a common emblem on all J-16?
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>>537823990
Ah so same thing as the good old shark mouth on western planes all the way back to WWI.
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>>537824273
think its more like the spook mascot the phantom got
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>>537824371
Yeah that is a better comparisons I was just keeping with the shark imagery.
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>>537824371
i love the spook, he's a cute lil guy
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Today I found out about the J35 Draken MOD 4, to quote wikipedia,
>The most ambitious modification in the program. The proposed modifications were new outer wing, additional weapon stations, RBS 15 capability, the addition of canards by the air intakes for increased maneuverability and maximum take-off weight increased to 15 000 kg.
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>>537835192
Odd looking, it kind of was looking like some of the fighters from the original Gundam from its top view.
Side view looks more Gripen than Draken while the front still looks the same.

>Cold War AC
>This could be added in easily
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>>537846140
Lots of new drones even one that looks like a budget Darkstar
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>>537849253
1000 years chinese century

The future of war is looking pretty... white, I guess.
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>>537849253
That's a big drone
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>>537867282
>>537867282
>>537867282
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>>537867282
for you
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Hey there buddies, long time no see. Some of you might not remember Enhanced Gunplay as I am the creator of that mod. However in the past few days there has been some breakthroughs that could bring the way of custom missions and campaigns in the future. Just posted an article not long ago about whats going on behind the scenes.

https://www.moddb.com/mods/playmore/news/enhanced-gunplay-the-road-to-alpha-seven

if you haven't played version A5 which is currently out, let me know what ya think of the new flight model.
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>>537879531
I was seeing that Enhanced Gunplay got sort of revived recently, could've never expected something like this though. Finally some good news.
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>>537854131
Nuclear white is the future
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>>537879531
An unbelievable step forward, buddy - perhaps we'll have all the older AC games 'remastered' on 7 with this if all the issues can be ironed out.
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>>537893781
>Remake older games in mod
That is a rather ambitious and huge task. Not saying it can't be done but it is a very ambitious goal
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Reminder: High Roller is so unimportant that his is the only spare skin that didn't get added in when they gave you the rest of Spare's skins.
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>>537894897
We're nothing if not relentless daredevils and dreamchasers, anon.

>>537897921
Which sucks because High Roller's my second favorite of the Spares behind Tabloid.
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>>537879531
Holy SHIT
>the door to actually making custom missions is open
>best of all, someone is actually gonna document how it's done instead of keeping it to themselves
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>>537898162
Has anyone ever ask Kono why that skin wasn't included with the other Spare skins?
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electrosphere for 2030

i beleeb
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>>537900360
>Kono's tism kicks in
AC3 remake will be released in 2040
It will include the following which can be accessed from the menu
>JP & World versions of 3 in two flavors
>Completely untouched looks just like it did on PS1
>Full HD remaster including hiring out Production IG to get the animations out and remaster them at 20K
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>>537904937
oh i'm not talking about games
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>>537910579
Oh....Then prepare to be let down as it'll be nothing more than some normie shit owned by meta or google
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>>537933987
Anon did you buy a CF-101?
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>>537881794

Yeah the project was publicly dormant since the release of A4.1. The mod underwent a complete overhaul from the ground up since discovering advances into Bytecode modding. Majority of the time went into the flight model in High Alpha research mechanics and multiplayer support with a rudimentary anti-cheat implemented. I highly suggest you to bring a few friends into a private multiplayer match to see where the majority of the development time went into.

>>537893781

We had a lot of talk going on about how far we can go with this, however there are still some roadblocks needed to be overcome.

>>537899137

Yeah the Ace Combat modding communities, specially in Discord have been pretty fragmented from recent events. Thankfully I run my own private server that is purely focused in Research & Development that keeps modding progression away from drama and modder witch hunting by vanilla purist run communities. I am a strong critic towards knowledge gatekeeping, the game is technically End-Of-Life so any attempts at reverse engineering and development shouldn't be looked down upon as many of us who are working towards this only wants the game to last longer in terms of replay-ability and expressing creativity. Thankfully gathering the right people with the technical know how has made this possible, if not I personally would have lost interest in modding the game and moved on in life.
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>>537935975
However long you decide to keep working on this, you've got my full appreciation for keeping this alive. Would you post your findings on mission building & modifying to a wiki or another public repository once you have everything complied and annotated?
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>>537935975
>from recent events
Did I sleep through yet another happening?
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>>537939751
Considering my age, I consider Ace Combat 7 to be the final game to be invested in I will continue to mod as a hobby. Achieving mission modding was my ultimate goal and magnum opus, I have to still be around when people are now given the opportunity to write their own stories and campaigns when research documentation is completed. My passion for arcade flying games has always been the driving factor. Enhanced Gunplay was originally designed with inspirations from bullet hell games and with this new domain opens many more opportunities for custom boss battles more intense than we can ever get from the base game.

>However long you decide to keep working on this, you've got my full appreciation for keeping this alive. Would you post your findings on mission building & modifying to a wiki or another public repository once you have everything complied and annotated?

Rest assured I am directly in touch with the modding wiki crew. I have no reason to keep this information to myself as that would defeat the purpose of this research, we're all crossing this bridge together.

>>537937335

>Did I sleep through yet another happening?

Unfortunately a major AC7 modding discord server got deleted and gone along with that was many hundreds of hours worth of modding information and exchanges. The active portion of the modding community migrated to another server however not everyone is aware and are also left out with nowhere to go, leading to more community fragmentation. It happened around the same time I returned to modding AC7 after taking a long break from the internet.
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>>537935975
I see a mission with the Alicorn guarded by the entire surface fleet from DLC 2 + the ships from M11 all sitting around a full platform who's flight deck is loaded up with SU-57's while YF-23's are already on CAP in large number.
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>>537939751
A major server where a ton of the old modding cabal gathered and posted info imploded, because the head honcho (married with a kid) was sexting members instead of running the server
The remaining "staff" decided that the only way to go on would be to delete the entire server (ostensibly with 24 hours' notice, and then promptly deleted it after 8)
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>>537959783
Why are those fucks incapable of acting like normal people?
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Speaking of EGP, a buddy of mine sent me this pic way back in the day.
>>537953587
>magnum opus
Appropriate. It's the most impressive and lasting thing the game's community will have.
>>537953587
>Enhanced Gunplay was originally designed with inspirations from bullet hell games and with this new domain opens many more opportunities for custom boss battles more intense than we can ever get from the base game.
I remember absolutely loving Gauntlet Edition Farbanti (even if all the jammers completely tanked my framerate).
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>>537953587
What's the biggest challenge to tackle before you can say "yeah, this is usable"
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>When you hear the music in your mind
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>>537960394
>Speaking of EGP, a buddy of mine sent me this pic way back in the day.

That screenshot still gives me chuckles to this day. That was caused by an FCS volley cooldown typo.

>Appropriate. It's the most impressive and lasting thing the game's community will have.

Honestly I didn't expect things to advance this far. The previous person who abandon the project had run into soft locking issues related to mission completion and among other things. When I showed him I could finish his project test missions, everyone involved exploded with the feeling of accomplishment and relief. Many felt modding the game was starting to get a bit stagnant until this happened.

>I remember absolutely loving Gauntlet Edition Farbanti (even if all the jammers completely tanked my framerate).

I suggest trying the new A5 release, it now supports addon planes mods and includes a ton of fixes compared to the old A4.1 release.

>>537961551
>What's the biggest challenge to tackle before you can say "yeah, this is usable"

The biggest issue right now is theres a lack of a good working dummied asset library, the current ones I'm using is fairly outdated as mentioned in the article, some pawn features like death animations, turret targeting and some cases AI behavior are not working as expected on spawn or activation. This problem is rooted from the custom GUID hash that Ace Combat 7 uses, which unfortunately will be a pain as cooking new dummied assets would require post editing to correct their generated GUIDs to their expected ones. Without a full working dummied asset library means very little you can add to maps and missions such as AI pawns and map related props and other game actors.

Making a dummied asset library from scratch will take incredible amounts of time, energy and reverse engineering efforts, given how many assets are in use in the game. Creating new original assets shouldn't be a problem when process becomes well documented.
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>>537953587
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>these pics
what if Erusea just sent sol squadron during Charge assault
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>>537977321
Maybe it'd be treated a bit like AC6 mission 1 and force you to retreat?
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It would have been so fucking funny if AC8's announcement was just a red herring for Ridge Racer 8. It's about fucking time anyway.
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There's a jet engine there so it counts lol
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>>537997660
You'll never see Top Gun get into the mundane matters like this. Final Countdown has probably the best aerial photography of modern era flight movies.
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>>538027045
the 70s were half a century ago, is that really modern
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