Pip the plapable Edition>News33.2.2 Patch Notes: https://hearthstone.blizzard.com/en-us/news/24223662/33-2-2-patch-notes$158 Pet: https://hearthstone.blizzard.com/en-us/news/24216434/unleashing-king-krush-hearthstone-s-first-interactive-petLost City of Un'Goro expansion: https://hearthstone.blizzard.com/en-us/news/24217084/the-lost-city-of-un-goro-is-now-liveArena Overhaul: https://hearthstone.blizzard.com/en-us/news/24208800/hearthstone-arena-expands-with-new-underground-modeYear of the raptor announcement with plans for the year: https://hearthstone.blizzard.com/en-us/news/24177978/welcome-to-the-year-of-the-raptorhttps://hearthstone.blizzard.com/en-us/news>Decklistshttps://hsguru.com/ – previously d0nkey - free stats and deck listshttps://hsreplay.net/meta/ – deck tier lists (bronze to gold)https://vicioussyndicate.com/ – meta reporthttps://hearthpwn.com/ – decks, news, patch noteshttps://hearthstone-decks.net/ standard & wild decks>Deck trackers & statisticshttps://hsreplay.net/downloads – deck trackerhttps://go.overwolf.com/firestone-app/ - deck trackerhttps://heartharena.com/ – arena helperhttps://github.com/supertriodo/Arena-Tracker - arena helper>Misc.https://playhearthstone.com/ – official websitehttps://hearthstone.wiki.gg – wikihttps://battlefy.com/browse/hearthstone – tournamentshttps://hearthcards.net/ – custom card maker>helpful linkshttps://docs.google.com/document/d/1MmLTCm7vdg5icVF4dAQhHf8sO_AZvE4gwO8NuQE8oxQ J_Alex' article on gaming mentalityhttps://screenrant.com/hearthstone-future-content-2024-nathan-lyons-smith-tyler-bielman/ insights from the devs on why the game is shit>Previous>>535522838
first and hopefully last
wild players are feasting desu
monk will save usevoker will cement us
overwatch expansion WILL save us
ffilthy priest wins with 51 damage to face on turn 7:https://replays.firestoneapp.com/?reviewId=feed98cd-1ff0-4c68-bacb-f08edfb4f709&turn=7&action=5
>handLOCK hunter
>>536667167wut
If Pip was on a modern TV show she would probably be sweet and innocent on the surface then some guy would try to have sex with it and she would chop his dick off.
>>536671486>a modern TV showshe'd be played by peter dinklage in black face
>come back after long hiatus>try to play Reno Mage in Wild>as soon as I reach silver basically every single deck is some variation of filling up the board with 20/20s all match, usually involving Shudderwock>occasionally you get a Priest who steals your entire hand and deckI lasted two days before uninstalling
>>536683134sounds like you got outskilled pal
>>536683134sounds exactly righthey you were only about 30 losses away from the algorithm putting you on a 30 game win streak
>>536667167Disgusting mulligan why did you mulligan that though?
*wins the game*
>>536689521>they LITERALLY made this a 2 mana spell
>>536648153upsides>have +10 HP>get 10 more cards in your deckdownsides>uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
>>536696073defile was printed first
>Meta is stale as fuck>Miniset still not announcedIt is so fucking over
>>536700078what you don't like going against or building the same taunt death rattle shart ship for months on end?
>>536696794umm ASHULLAY if aggro decks could run ten card decks with ten health they would>dies on turn 2
>>536696794>>536701250+10 cards in your deck is not an upside, it's just a very small downside compared to getting 10 hp. And yes reverse renethal for aggro is severely overrated.
>>536700078by the end of this week they will announce the miniset and it'll be so game saving that everyone will kneel to coratrust the plan
>>536700862Why are they keeping this from us?
>>536701846What if I have ten bonus cards I want to play like based helya and friends ever think of that
>>536711471yes, and I did think of that. And I came to the conclusion that if you wanted those cards so badly they wouldn't have been in the 30
hearthstone mythic +
>>536696794"Up"sides>More health to diaper up!!!>10 more wholesome 1000 diaper troony cards!!!!Downsides>Diapers fill up when high test decks blow my brains out and make my troon self bite the curbYou play diaper loon decks? You take 124 charge damage.You play aggrocuck? I gain 124 armor, then kill you with 124 charge to the skull My deck? Chud warrior, the white man's hammer against Judaism and niggerdom.
>>536717939anon, you have genuine brainrot and i'm kind of worried about you.
l should have spend my 48k gold when the game was still comfy kino
>it has been 5 years since the last yearly hearthstone event took place
>>536720285you're on the dead wiki dood
>>536720430that was the last yearly event
>>536720578yeah they're like monthly now
>>536718623t. 40 card reddithal tranny malding about losing to chudwarrior
>>536720668those are event tracks, special events were once a year and they'd usually do something bigger that had a narrative and would either introduce a batch of new cards into arena or standard
>>536720668I liked this one, it was easy and very free player friendly
Why is the population hyper active on reddit and ingame but not on 4chan?
I love this
>>536723090Reddit is full of shills, 4chan has real gamers.
when the FUCK will they print her into standard
Blogpost literally in a few hours bros hold on
I just realized amirdrassil got nerfed TWICE, end your suffering already you ultrafaggot devs
>>536731146no it didn't
I don't like frequent balance patches, if you need to push out more than two balance patches in a single expansions(miniset included) you have failed.
>has an AdjNoun name>ropes every turn>does some rigged shit every turn>you can't possibly beat me no matter what you do>everything i do with the word random on it goes in my favor, perfectly>ropes every turn, btwany questions?
>>536749991*Plays wildychud*Your powers are now worthless rig-cuck.*Kills you on T3 with the most obscene combo*Tsk... Should've injected estrogen into your brain stem and kept to sTRANSdard...
>>536720986We call these minisets now
>>536683134Update, switched to Secrets Mage and it's pure cringekino but at least I'm winning matches now
>>536762154how often are people just auto conceding? I had a quest to play 3 games of mage or whatever and 2 out of 3 conceded right as I dropped the first kabal guy and secret on turn one
noob here, having a lot of fun with my first CCGbut what should i do with gold? is buying packs with it worth it? i really wanna grab a cool hero skin...
>>536763251with all the recent updates, for now, gold is strictly maybe for an arena run or two and then solely for minisets rather than packs. don't be shy to spend it on packs but always keep ~2500 on you if possible. that being said you can buy wild expansions which is not recommended for new or even returning old players. gold is only for minisets.buy a skin too but there are cooler ones for like $5 whereas 1000 gold is somewhere worth 10 bucks equivilenenant
>>536763736how often are miniset releases?
>>536762559Actually kinda common. In fact I just had a guy concede because I Objection'd his three drop... Thing is, I don't think it was particularly important for him or the matchup. Just a normal 3 drop.Also they nerfed and killed Kabal Lackey my beloved
>>536764409what are you the guy with a million questions or something idk
>>536764854yeah, i'm new
>>536764510yeah I was watching a few wild streamers over the last week and everyone was conceding to mage. I understood their reasoning in that most of their meme deck game plans would be insta snuffed with objection and ice block but it was funny to hear JAINA... kaboom.also the new even is another play ranked games quests only gaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay
>>536762154>>536683134>Can't win with hostage >Finding fucking shuddercock(Hello? 2020 wants its deck back)>Switches to tier 5 deckI swear to god, you people need to have your rank next to your post this shit mad funny.
>>536767119Mage is hostage 90% of the time, if you don't have antisecret tech you've already lost so no reason to keep playing, decks tend to be tight in wild so oftentimes people take the L and just auto-concede vs mage, which is already a pretty bad class and rare to see (because the one good deck is has also takes 50 minutes to win).
it's alright
https://x.com/PlayHearthstone/status/1960386790939865325blog believers WON, miniset must be out in 2 weeks
>play one game of ranked standard for the new quest>already want to stop for the daywhy do they keep pushing ranked. for what purpose.
>>536778820Player engagement boosts. That is also the reason they made the event quests much longer.
>>536780179is BG playtime just not good enough? i barely get out of silver every month because the only ladder i bother with is the weekly win 5 games of ranked quests. it's so painful.
wtf is this aggro paladin deck that plays fucking wisp and kills you on turn 4?I just want to get my quest done you cunts
>>536778820i switched to wild for all these stupid events and shit and it's a lot better but granted my wild mmr is probably in the toilet so ymmvbut there are some cheap decks you can craft that have a high winrate. like libram pally and discolock
>quest to play ranked>aggro paladin>murloc paladin>imbue paladin>murloc paladinend me
>>536701846in wild 10 more cards is only barely a downside since you have so many cards that fill the same role it doesn't really matter which specific version you draw, and you have so much good draw/tutor you can find your stuff reasonably fast regardless.
>>5367230904chan mostly died when it got shut down after the hack. lots of people simply moved on when they couldn't shitpost for 2 weeks or whatever
>>536788239at least the games are quick?
>>536763251buy minisets until you have all the standard ones. start with the most recent and work your way backwards. always have 2k gold on hand to buy the current set miniset on release dayif you care more about building your collection, hoard gold to mass buy packs on launch dayif that's not a priority, or you're willing to spend real money on preorder bundles, feel free to spend gold on skins or card backs as long as you follow the miniset gold rule.
>>536764409roughly halfway between set releases, so every 4 months. cycle goes set release > 2 months > miniset > 2 months > set release > ...
Is there any place i can check up guides older seasons decks for casual?I'm so sick of this shit, every new season all mydecks i busted my ass grinding no longer work in standard,and Wild is insane with people winning on turn 1 with busted cards.I'm having to sell literally all my fucking cards of other classes now to be able to fully build ONE meta DH deck
>>536789557most of standard decks are from 8 months ago
Only metas where rogue has 30% wr into hyper aggro are good
>miniset teased>no one careswhat killed the ungoro hype
>>536796725playing the game. BG is almost tolerable now though as long as undead isn't in the lobby.
>9 win arena>one pack>one ticket (twice)is this a fucking joke
>>536726080Shit at least give us more Starcraft cards d00dWhere is Nova and Medic and Valkyrie?
hearthstone won
it's kind of funny how desperate they are with not letting people complete event quests in bgs
>>536806372Jokes on them, I did them in Tavern Brawl because the Idol one is a funny meme and also worked great for "playing cards" since every single card actually played required opening an Idol
>>536772170No idea what that means also I should clarify, I was winning with my homebrew Reno mage but my wr was like only slightly higher than 50% and it was taking forever to rank upAnd I literally just told you I recently came back after a long hiatus and got placed into silver, read nigger
guys what if we had 4 different paladin decks that played exactly the same
>>536809491aggro pally takes slightly more brainpower than murloc pally. not exactly the same but similar enough that i'll give it to youimbue pally doesn't play like either one of them, although it is also pretty brainlessno idea what the fourth archetype is
>>536809962Drunk, which also doesn't play the same
>>536799064D00d, we'll work hard for our paycheck
>overwatch 2 gets a luca doncic crossover event>hearthstone gets
>opponent starts playing leeches It's not even the leeches but the rest of the 40 minute diaper fest they summon forth
we're getting dabbed on by a horse girl game...
holy shit arena is so fucking rigged and p2w it's insane, had this mage down to 1 hp turn 6-7, and somehow he discovered a card and it was story of amara and he played it with 1 mana... like wtf is this shit? and then he played the recast every spell guy like 5 times every time I got him low again it was absurd
>>536809295>Cope, malding and slursKeeek.
doubters will be sorry when they realize that all quests will be viable with the blogpost
>>536778820The solution is simple>Netdeck nebula shaman>Rename it to quest>Game gives you quest counters
>>536834280Stfu reddit bitch I don't even know what half of those words mean
>>536847119Kiss me about it dumbass
>not playing around treasuresi swear russian name players most dumbest or most PRO players in modern hs
I'm waintin for a cool dk deck
>>536867531see ya when KJ and Starshart rotate
>>536868834KJ is rotating straight to core
>>536867531DK is a bitch class so it will never happen
>>536852993Was this even cleared the board?
>>536867531original frost burn was pretty based. modern dinosaur version is degenerate faggotryoriginal unholy was ok too. just a normal go-wide token deck with a normal savage roar type finisherblood has always been aids and continues to be aidsbut yeah the game is too degen now to have any of the archetypes be normal. not even really dk's fault. every deck in the game is degen as fuck
i never bought into the whole "hs is rigged" thing but i've been counter queuing two decks and every time I face the counter, 100% of the time i mean, without fail for over a day in constructed. It's statistically impossible
>>536844151Does this actually work? The two decks I use is quest and nebula and I literally only face counters. How do I even know if they are real players and not just bots at this point? Fuck this retarded game.
>>536871978Anon... math....also cut his hp to low
>Nerf everything but Diaper DK>People only play Diaper DKHow many expansions in a row has this happened? Three? Four?
how is vampiric blood balanced holy shit
>>536877215By being double blood unironically
>>536877215it's not, don't listen to diapers
What's the difference between this game and MTG Arena? I want to get into this genre, but having a hard time deciding between the 2 (also Magic doesn't seem to have a general here)
>>536887429>>>/tg/mtgI play both, they're both shit games in their own way but MTG is an inherently fairer for everyone level of shitty.
>>536887429they buried the mtga general on /tg/ for some reasonbut really there's not much of a difference. they're basically skins of each other. both rigged f2p slop trying to bait whales into overspendingmtga is probably more expensive if you really want to diaper out though
>>536887429>Rigged>Also Rigged
questlock is such overtuned cora's g string bs holy fuck
miniset revealed... and nobody posted?https://hearthstone.blizzard.com/en-us/news/24231416/crack-open-ancient-power-with-the-day-of-rebirth-mini-set
....guys? the miniset is here....
>>536895484And? What are we getting? More removals? Who fucking cares.
>>536895484those are some dogshit legendaries
>>536897764what, you dont like spending a million ressources to play a single big minion that will just be removed before it does anything?
>>536897764and the art is fucking terrible as well.
>spend entire game hatching the stupid egg>Get 20/20 do nothing>drooling controddler drags a 2 mana removal and skillfully deletes it
>>536898909even with deathrattle cheese this is gonna be a hard selllike, DK lost the deathrattle split, right? I guess you can try to get multiple with yodelers or something, but even then people will just keep board clears in hand when they see the egg drop (if they dont just kill you before you do anything)
>CHARGEthey never learn....
>>536897878It won't get removed that's the point. Why the fuck wouldn't the opponent just ignore them? They have literally zero board impact.
>>536900359on an 8 mana spell doesn't seem useful oh wait doesn't mage have a discover a +7 mana spell and play it for 1?
>>536900553I would assume you dont want to leave a 20/20 on the board to hit you in the face
>>536900831He means leaving the five 0/3 that you need to have die first, retard. This thing exists purely to spite Corpse Explosion since it's the only repetitive AoE clear.
>>536904172Yeah no shit they're being left on the board but you would think if you run such a meme card, you run ways to pop it yourself.
>>536904395Spending a bunch of resources to pop it yourself seems like ass. Eggs are supposed to work in classes that have a bunch of buff spells so they're threatening if they stick around, but I can't think of a single class that runs more then a single set of buffs. If anything, it's almost a funny meme tech card to play in DK since it's 5 corpses for 3 mana with the big pay off at the end requiring a piece of removal from your opponent. I also wonder how it interacts with things that proc it's deathrattle, which could make it fucking hilarious even if still bad in DK and Warlock since they're already running shit that would make copying it easy. A single 20/20 with zero keywords doesn't seem worth the payoff, though, especially if you're having to pop it and not having it happen on the enemy's turn to give it psuedo charge.
at least give elusive to this 20/20and take it away from the big turtle
>>536905710it should at least have taunt, reminder that warrior is cheating out that other turtle turn 5 with just chemical spill.
>>536905472>Spending a bunch of resources to pop it yourself seems like assyes it's an ass card
>>536900583Imbue hunter still exist...
>beast speaker taka reveal gif on the announcement post dies immediately to tar blob>they did it this way on purposeThey're just making fun of us at this point printing shit legendaries with huge stats actively knowing the fact that nobody plays them because they die immediately to cheap removal. They're shoving it directly in our faces lmao.
>>536907334does it?
Is there an up to date handbuff dk list?
>>536908540shut up and buy the preorder, pig
>>536909372Goldrinn still ingame Amalgam + Windfury still ingameImagine games vs diaper dk when you draw infinite 8/8 windfury chargebut yeah thats not comp deck because no turn6 wins
i started conceding all dk matches because theyre so fucking boring to play
Maybe It's time we head on to /vm/ as well?
>miniset announced>nobody gives a shitwe really are cemented huh
>>536918338we get 10x the traffic of the snap thread
>>536919253The few cards revealed all suck ass. There isn't really anything to talk about.
>>536919253shadowverse's next card set comes out tommorow, focusing on that instead of a legendary 0/3 egg
>>536898173The Taka guy and the Osho guy don't look different enough its not fun. The Egg should have had better buildings next to it. Then the final form should be wrecking like half the city. Eggbearer looks just like Osho.The mask idea is just stupid, it should be flavor wise a one turn only buff or some kind of nerf just giving something 8/8 charge is world breaking since every warrior would just wear the mask to kill everyone also it should be a legendary mask. You are making animals as strong as King Krush by merely wearing a mask.
>>536918338I don't know what's with this retarded obsession with moving threads there, whoever made the snap thread there basically killed the snap alliances and discovery for the thread
I wonder if they're releasing the third set earlier this year, the gap between the miniset and usual december release date is going to be 3 whole months
cool arena run ends after two of my three losses were decided by enemy highrolling a dark giftgreat mechanic that should definitely stay in arena
>hunter in arena>plays buzzard on 2>plays buzzard on 3>plays buzzard on 5COOL FUCKING CARDDDDDDDDDDDDRAW ONE, BUFF YOUR ENTIRE HAND FOR A MILLION STATS AND IT PULLS ITSELFFUCKLING EBINBNGHFDGDFHUIFDGHUIOZSFDUHZIOGDXFGZUHOFSDHUIG
why are hunter cards taking up neutral slots?
>>536926259The epic is way better in other things than hunter. The common really is just a literal shitty hunter card though.
>>536926460who would play the 5it's terrible value even if it is le epic amalgam
>>536926558>who would play the 5quest paladin
>>536926259kindred is such a shit keyword, literally just a more limiting battlecry.
>>536926681I'm not sure they wouldit's an early brick and they get plenty stats by turn 5 anyway
>>536926558consider that it can be manacheated and handbuff to ridiculous levels
>>536926558it's pretty solid to curve into with murloc and ele decks
>>536926259aw yiss a buff for murloc pally decks
>>536926259crater experiment will generate some retarded turns if you discover it off raptor herald on 3
>>536926558It's really good in handbuff dk
>>536926259this miniset has the most boring designs I've ever seen. And I say that as someone who thinks they should release vanilla minions more often.
these cards look like standard core cards that they just give everyone and no one uses, not a paid expansion
>do you have this in a bigger size?it's always bothered me how this is an obvious tranny voice actor. like just use a fucking female, jesus christ
>>536929037holy shit, i just realized the voice line is tranny coded tooa tranny would ask this exact question when going shopping for female clothes
>>536929037Why would an ARMORER try to BUY ARMOR??CORA???
>>536929037>tfw you are not trans and don't pick up on this stuff
monk class will save us
>>536929405lmao
>>536929610monk class will never ever happenin no small part because it's not really iconic or with some fervent fansDK and DH, those are warcraft classes. that's arthas and illidan. those were highly requested classes in WoWmonk is just... there
>>536933073monk has hot panda women
>>536933501it really doesntI played a monk during legion and I couldnt even tell you a single iconic monk character (one of which would presumably would be the class character in HS)I guess they can always pretend chen is a monk, but that just goes to show how starved the class is for iconic shit and why it wont happen
>>536933791the only pandas anyone ever cared about was the jade bitch and cho.
>>536933791>I guess they can always pretend chen is a monkChen definitely is a monk. Unless you meant to say Taran Zhu? Who is also a monk but has more a rogue vibe to him.
>>536936879I meant chen stormstoutwho is a brewmaster.... which know that I type it was one of the monk specs
+ Death Knight tourist = 7 20/20s on board
>>536933073Counterpoint, HS is very popular in china
>>536937526Nah, wait, never mind, it only procs on play not summon. The egg is trash
>>536895484because all the cards revealed are trash>7 mana stat bomb legendary>3 mana egg that's 15 health between 5 bodies and your reward is a vanilla 20/20>rogue legendary that's only good in diaper mirrors>hunter 1 mana not beast that will see 0 play>3 mana neutral no beast that only works in beast decks>5 mana handbuff minion that only works in exactly handbuff dk
i honestly am going to save my gold, this set sucks
>>536895484Apologize It’s no longer the worst expac
Pic rel was an amazing miniset, no matter what Blizzard would have given us you’d have complained
>>536937674HS is yes but what about pandas and panderia? did they even get to play MoP? will they give us marvel rival tier ass and tits or is that still not going to be a thing?
>>536926896We have 2 mana murlocs that summon +1Murmy is 1 manaThe kindred guy is only 4 mana for a +2 (and with the kindred doubling murloc it’s +4)The rush murloc is 6 mana, usually a removal, and will give you +3 minimum maybe more with reborn5 mana for a +1 is absolute dogshit especially with those stats and no text. It would be unplayable even at 3 mana>>536926879>manacheat handbuffYeah, it would fit into fair imbue hunter deck, but I have never seen a fair imbue hunter
>>536939636>HS is yes but what about pandas and panderia? did they even get to play MoP?WoW Launched in China mid TBC and really blew up there during WotLK, it's basically their vanilla except also its Wrath on top of that. And yes MoP was popular in china. Wrath classsic is in ICC phase in China and they've already announced that Cata is going to only last 6 months so that they can get to MoP faster.
>>536941984so confirmed HS isn't going to hit EoS anytime soon since it sounds like the china server has the highest population and people willing to spend money on the gaccha. I have mixed feelings on that, ladder has been stale and frustrating for a few yeards now. arena is too gay with the barcode players. BG is a great waste of time and that's it. oh well.
Evolve shamanbros....I'm going to be physically ill
still climbing through d5. what do you guys think of my brew?
this set is ragebait
>>536946963I don't hate the other cards shown so far, but it's crazy that this is 7 with no rush
>>536946963Might be cool with a mage quest package
>>536946963always funny when they print these big mana do nothing cards as if aggro arent winning the game turn 5.
>the most exciting card they could use as the face for the miniset is a literal 7 mana do nothing
>scarab 1 creates creature of madness 2 creates a broken 3 drophow long is this gonna go on in arena
and here we have our beautiful cora giving us a miniset to save standard
>finally get priest quest in arena>play vs shaman who double hexes my reward>play vs mage who double life sentences my rewardabsolutely ebin
>>536963963eggs, breakfast, makes sense. fucking bitch.
>>536964826can't believe they knew ahead of time you were going to drop a big 8/8 with deathrattle and reborn.
>>536964990yeah I forgot you just get to have this extremely specific removal in arena on time every timethanks for the input
>>536965224every card mage drafts has the word discover on it
i'm gonna play egg to punish people clearing me board and there's nothing you can do to stop me
>>536971108>play 0/3>they play boardwipe>you now have a 0/3
is this mini set some kind of sick joke? do the devs play this game or just print every half assed idea the interns come up witha 0/3 that summons.... a 0/3 four timesreally knocking it out of the park here
>>536972586worth noting the egg completely pollutes and fucks up the res pool for umbra too
>>536973929I'm pretty sure this card already existed in some form.
>>536974639
or perhaps
>>536973929Glad to see we're still printing insane value and tempo for Rogue that will be abused heavily by Shadowstep and Scoundrel, unless it's also got the same cost as the other minion does for the full stat version in which case it's just value.
>>536976030that card is unplayable trash. the shadowbrain hatred is boring and has rotted your brain
>>536976363You're retarded if you think 3 mana 3/3 copy the opponent's last battlecry isn't going to get slotted into Fire Dragon Rogue.
Got legend for the first time :) played quest shaman.Kinda wish i would have gotten legend when this was the game to play but eh whatever.
>>536975461shit card but the art and flavor is perfect
okay this is epic
>>536979218i like it when it's obvious that the required engagement metrics to qualify for bonuses went up for the team
>>536974639Closest I can think of are Chameleos and Celestia
>tfw trying to rank up with secrets mageHoly fucking autism. This is so awkward. I got to Diamond 2 but when back to 4 and am now currently sitting there.
>>536979218>having to play the game/hsg/‘s worst nightmare
that's iti just wanted to play quest mage and quest hunterhave some fun, play some new cardsafter my sixth murloc pally of the day i'm just going full netdeck aggro hunter with the highest winrate
>>536983001Pally murloc isnt good, quest hunter and mage are just ass
>>536983114>Pally murloc isnt goodwhy is literally everyone playing it
>>536983305Cheap and easy to pilot
>>536983114murloc paladin is good vs mediocre decks like what that anon plays and people who dont play optimal. thats why it performs strongly in lower ranks
It's so wild to see people be so elitist for the most casual card game of all time.>this deck performs badly at the top 0,002% of ladder so It's bad and you're even worse for losing to itAlso expecting everyone to play the same 3 top meta decks over and over and nothing else just so they can save themselves the embarrassment of losing to 'bad' decks would make ladder unplayable.
>>536984072>I keep losing with this deck in standard>Play better decks>WHY ARE YOU SO ELITIST??!
wow i switched to aggro hunter and i haven't seen a murloc pally in four matches nowfucking rigged istg
This miniset isn't saving shit
>>536982593Take a break when you lose, this tricks the Algo
>>536947673>Fat Reno dnt paladin Hello yorion dnt, we missed you.
>>536984072it's also wild because the game is riggedit's a bunch of grandmas with cigarettes hanging out of their mouth at a wall of slot machines arguing about which slots "pay the best", snickering at the other grandmas who are playing on the bad slots
>>536986435It's rigged, which is why I am legend and you are gold 4.
holy shit stop giving me warriors who cheat out gigantic taunts on turn 5 and priestsgive me murloc pallies to fuck up
2 months until the next expansion saves us bro, trust cora
when I lose a match so I watch the replay to find out what I did wrong instead of sperging out about the algorithm
any advice for running wheel warlock? is it just stall with ancients and cursed campaign and then kiljaeden into wheel?
>>536938349Save it for what?The game might not exist after twelve months time.
>>536998065such a good boy for mommy.
man I used to love playing bg. its so insanely bad now. standard is unironically 10x more balanced and fun atm
>>536998065It's not about misplays but about taking risks and hoping that rng doesn't make you lose.Playing not to lose is pointless.You must make plays that will give you the win and hope that rng is not punishing enough to cost you the win.
what's the cheapest warlock deck I can spam to get wins for the event quest?
is afk farming in puzzle still working?
>>537002283It died a long time ago bro
>>536984072umm actually murloc paladin is healthy and good for the game because it only exists in gold and silver (and plat and diamond)
>>537007328i mean the solo mercenaries with xyrella, is that fixed? Did they really patch all the afk farming methods?
>>537008835Yes. All AFK farming methods are fixed short of actually botting. Exp is determined by actions now.
>>537008835it's all slow as shit now so nobody bothersmercenaries is worthless, you can do the secret puzzle skip turn thing but it requires botting
>>537009064>>537008978yes, that's what i was doing before, guess i'll stick to that when i'm not using the pc.Fuck, wish i didn't skip 2 expansion, i don't wanna spend all my dust for all 40 legendaries
>>537009439Congrats, this expansion is pure ass and most legendary is shit. Your cards from 2 expansion ago probably still works.
>>536977505No one said gz..
>>537009439it's not like you get anything for having all the legendaries, they stopped handing out special diamond legendaries for doing that a while ago.
>>537011808sorry anon this game is dead and awful nobody cares anymore
>>537000446>Quests appear>Literally worse trinkets>Which in turn are worse buddiesName a more iconic fucking episode.
>>536929610and evoker will cement us
stop talking about evoker that class will never ever ever be added to HS
God i hate the fucking full art cards
>>536984072cry harder shitter. you're told how to solve your problem and you get mad because you don't want to
>>537018558I like quite a few of them but they get really annoying when i'm pissing around on mobile because if I don't know the card right away it's hard to figure out what the card actually does. but i hardly play anything other than bg anyways
>>537029987story and direhorn the first cards to be looking at least playablenot sure if they'll find a place in actual decks but at least they're not awful
it's outhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3xEob8rcJRQ
>>537029790I guess you'd be FORCED to buff your opponents minion to 5/4 if your board was empty?
>>537038001Nobody is forcing you to do anything chuddy
>>537038151
>>537038001what? it's a spell to buff your own minion or get rid of a taunt on your opponent's side what do you mean forced?
>>537041073I remember when the payoff for that was an extra turn3/6 doesn't seem very powerful in comparison
>>537041548what the fuck is this overcosted mask shit, where is the quest support
>>537044441The quest is already good and you got one here>>537041073
>>537040315like if its in your hand and you need the draw real bad and dont have some gay little token to buff of your own.
>literally screaming for some reason HEY EVERYONE ZEDDY HERE WITH A BRANN. NEW. VIDEO!!!!!!!!!!
a bunch of other cards have been revealed but I lost the motivation to post them
Is this the single most broken card in the game? I genuinely have a hard time thinking about a more broken one. The only thing that would stop you from slotting this into literally every deck is the rune requirement, and every single class and deck in the game would run this if they had access to it.
>>537049837it's actually super fringe after the nerf. Entirely a meta call for if it gets run in blood DK.
>>537049837It wouldn't be as strong in other classes if they don't have access to the other leech cards.
>>537049837>tales from bronze 3If this was 2016 where 6 mana cards need to just fight for tempo, maybe, but you can leech a billion HP and still get killed by DH or Warrior, while any aggro deck is going to kill you before you play it. Starship blood DK doesn't even bother with running it despite running both of the other spells in the leech package.
>wake up>miniset cards are literally 2014 power level
>>537057653and that's a good thingthey've been printing shit cards for close to a year now in order to slow down powercreepenjoy it while it lasts, soon they will realize printing cards that are actually good makes me money and then it's all going downhill
>>537058446can't wait for castle nathria 2.0
>nohandsgamer and clark lost half their viewership since twitchs new anti bot updateconstructed bros i don't feel so good
This card is so retarded broken it's a bit silly
>>537062279it's funny that it'd be considered a legendary with this minisets power level
Why is there a class whose entire gameplan is "I am going to generate random shit and pray it's enough to win the game". Like how is anyone even remotely okay with mage's current state.
>>537062981I thought you were talking about roguelol
>>537018558brother ew
>>537029987Story of Umbra will be fucking annoying to play against
>>537062037>>nohandsgamer and clark lost half their viewershipnohands is at 750 viewers right now and averages 900.
>>537045318Yeah the only thing the deck needed was a 3/6 taunt, now it’ll be unstoppable
>>537063082That’s what blizzard thinks rogue should be and why it always sucks outside of wild
First legend since coming back after taking a break for more than a year, and I did vs a quest lock, a deck I don't think I have won against before. It took me 77 games and a winrate of 66.23% from diamond 10 with no star bonus. Just using the vs quest control warrior list.
>>537064793congrats anon, but from the sounds of if you aren't anywhere near schizophrenic enough to be posting here.
operation health when?
>>537065628>>537065809nobody asked
>>537065628anduin my son it is turn 6 you must choose a cardwill you pick the 10/10 spaceship that wins the game on the spotor wait two more turns for 5/10 dino that summons random taunt
>>537065628all three broken in arenagood times, the best arena class really needed some help
Just won 3 arena runs without losing. I'm enjoying this way more than standard.
>>537068294Welcome to the dark side
>>537068294you went 36-0???
>>537070014arena only goes to 5
>>537071678>playing scam arena
the elemental tribe/fire spell shaman deck looks even better now
>>537062981>Why is there a class whose entire gameplan is "I am going to generate random shit and pray it's enough to win the game".*ben brode laughtrack*
honestly though quest mage is just one archetype and the only one that spams 'random shit'also, relic of kings is the real finisher, and that card pulls from such a small pool that it's not really outrageous to depend on it to get a finisher for you
>>537073485The pool is wide enough, especially with only 2 shots at it, that you aren't expecting them to get any particular spell consistently, most notably Wheel of Doom which dramatically changes the matchup of any slow deck playing into them which normally is just trying to run them out of their randomly generated resources.
>>537065809it's funny how dogshit most of the cards are then you get something stupid like fire breath
today i learned that there are people who complain about quest mage
>>537064793Man why do you get 5489 and I got 11000 lame. I only got mine with a 7 game win streak with Protoss Priest.I just played a game and it was Murloc Paladin versus my janky Mage man fuck this I was hoping I could just mess around here.>>537064180Twitch was forced to take down a LOT of botted viewers by Amazon Corporate to appease advertisers and I don't think everyone was evil but I swear this is my own theory but I think nerds give people bots as a gift because they like them because every single person has 25-85% bots, find that hard to believe.
>>536649040Went from Diamond 5 to Legend 11983 with Aggro Paladin in like 30 minutes. The fuck.
>>537065628HOLY SHIT INFINITE ATLASAURUS THANK YOU SO MUCH BBW CORA
>>537076593if you're 5 digit legend I don't care about your opinion on balance.
>>537081438Balance is already solved due to the meta being so stale and everyone being able to read the latest vsreport.
I've unironically enjoyed this expansion more than the last sets meta
So is Hearthstone dead or what? I want to buy the welcome back bundles, but I don't want to feel like I just blew $50+ on a game Blizzard is waiting to give the axe. All I hear about the game is how streamers are leaving and everyone's whining and saying they're going to quit the game because standard meta this and that and blah blah blah.
>>537091582It's alive in china allegedly. Doesn't seem like it when you look at it here.
>>537091582The meta is just stale. Protoss decks are from the last miniset and they are still relevant now. Half of the new decks don't include any more than 1 or 2 cards. It is just boring.
>>537091582hearthstone is still somehow the biggest english digital card game on the market
At last, after over a decade of playing Hearthstone (for two years, then uninstalling it and only coming back a few days ago), I got Legend... In Wild. Hehehe.
>>537092202Including battlegrounds
>>537075409if the mage misplays and forgets how their weapon works and accidentally plays wheel of doom and you still lose, that is actually extremely sad
>>537092525nice, nice. still counts.
>>537092202wrong
>>537093228Between shield batteries and ice armor, wheel of doom very much a winning line for Quest Mage against control decks. They're only taking 15 fatigue damage before you lose, and if you're just trying to run them out of resources, you likely aren't applying heavy pressure or even significant amounts of chip damage.
>>537092019I made it through Shudderwock era, so I'm honestly completely indifferent to a meta I've barely any exposure too (plus, I love playing Wild, so). >>537092202>>537091710As long as Hearthstone is keeping up with MTG arena and whatever gacha slop card games, I'm happy. Played it since Goblins vs. Gnomes, and kept playing until my broke ass couldn't afford to keep up with the standard sets. Now I got some chump change so I can throw a few bucks in to keep my decks fresh. Going to try and make a goblin mecha deck work with reborn and see where it takes me, Idgaf.
>>537095979Standard is in a death spiral. Majority of the players are BG players.
>>537096139Eh, people were flocking to BG even when Standard was good. I've never liked the mode, myself—rather play constructed.
>>537096547Battlegrounds might be shit but it's fresh. Standard is shit and stale. And dev team has no idea how to stop the death spiral.
>>537094892>lists a bunch of asian games
>>537096547>>537096815bg has one extra layer of RNG that you can pretend isn't your fault to keep playing again for 4th place without spending gold or dust on cards. ladder just feels bad after 4 games. win two, don't care. lose two from bullshit, get tilted.it's like when i play fyrak rogue i draw myself to death, when they play fyrak they get lethal. at least BG i can pretend.
>>537094892Damn MD really had a downfall. It used to pull 10 million a month.
>>537065628unplayable because protoss priest
>>537097604Standard has survived objectively worse meta. This meta isn't that bad when you just consider balance. The issue is that this meta consist of decks which you have been playing against for the past fucking SIX months.
Anyone who posts porn in this thread is morally obligated to drone strike themselves.Also Battlegrounds sucks and its not even because of rally quests are just inferior trinkets.
>win few games>my worst match is elemental burn to face mage>one star to diamond 5>muh draw>repeat 5 timesRigged bwos.....
>>537096547Constructed is suffering from the problem that decks are so linear in what they want to do to win the game, you're never making many decisions per game, plus you've been playing the decks forever, so every game starts to blur together even moreso then normal. BG is much more dynamic, especially since playing whatever tribe doesn't require you to invest a massive amount of dust into a completely new deck.
>>537100039Blizzard just needs to ban cards like every other card game. As long as it's usable in Wild, who cares.
>>537100039Constructed has been playing green card for the longest time. Even secret challenger was literally just play green card till turn 7 doctor Boom. And yet constructed survived. The issue is the stale meta.>New cards get released>New cards have to be better than old cards so people will play new cards>Power creep happensSo the dev team decided to break the cycle by releasing an expac which is lower in power level. But as a result people are still playing Protoss Decks. The miniset was released in January 2025, WE ARE IN FUCKING SEPTEMBER SOON.
>>537100690And then one of the lower powerlevel cards that would normally be meh just happens to become really op with some old cardsHappens with every single “low powerlevel” meta in every cardgame, most infamously Umezawa’s Jitte
wtf is going on in arena how are people getting constructed decks with legit game breaking combos that will end you at turn 6 with no counters?
>>537101880Barcode decks have been an issue for the longest time.
>>537102517I honestly don’t get the point. Even if you buy an account that has rolled the perfect deck, the rewards still arent impressive (what is it now like 5 packs and 250 gold), and the reward will be on an alt account so you cant even transfer the packs and the achievement over
>>537103131They just want to play arena and they want to win. Money is not an issue to them since these accounts are so cheap
CONSTANTLY GETTING DISCONNECTED WHAT DE FAT FUCK ZEDDY IS BLOCKIN MY CONNECTION HOLY FAT SHIT
finally crafted carnivorous carbuncletried to revive the 5/5 taunt lifesteal dreamseed, it came back dormant and i died
>sharts million of overstated minions for free>you cant counter it because no neutral hex(not random) summon minions for opponent or mass silencereborn was mistake Starshart literally killed game New sets irrelevant untill rotation
this miniset probably won't affect the meta much right
>>537112586few busted cards as usual They give up on shartcraft nerfs
imagine ever playing modern arena and not immediately realizing that it's riggedi wish i was that naive. believing in santa type shit.
if you reduce shaladrassil to say cost 5 and had played a 6 mana but not a 9 mana does it still get corrupted?
reanimated pterrordax is probably a quite safe craft if you like DK right?
>>537117710yes
Why doesn't quest warrior run Xavius?
>>537118195What would you cut for it? There's no particular minion it needs ASAP and it already has enough tutors and draws.
>>537119665I can easily see myself cutting one concussive shell, card is never really good imo. It's not that good vs aggro since most of their minions have 3/4 health and the launch cost reduction never matters since in every match up you want to launch you're waiting for exodar most of the time. And vs aggro/tempo you never really have the time to draw and aply pieces. Getting double battlecry or copy is very good on a lot of stuff in the deck, seems like it would be decent
>>537098818Play nebula shaman to dab on everyone.
>>537124078>play
i quit when they started adding tranny legendaries, is the game worth coming back or no
>>537127412>tranny legendarieslike what
>>537127412No game is ever worth coming back to. Everything only ever gets shittier as options get fewer. It's the end goal of capitalism.
>>537136040She wont sleep with you bro
>>537134020Warden hero Warden card Warden BG hero
This game is trash
>>537098674Based
>>537140037I hexed two of his buff deathrattles btw
>>537140037scam of be scammed
>>536774261Should be a 4 mana 4/4.
>>536973929>>536974639>>536982035There's that druid card that copies the last minion you played and that other legendary that copies the next minion the opponent plays while its on the board.
Seems like this miniset is ass because they are determined not to increase the power level
>>537029987>No even-costed cardsMy even reno rainbow DK wild deck shall remain unchanged.
>now you remember cool solo adventureslazy cunts and dickless men
>>537153695Good, I hope they stick to that vision and keep going until rotation and have the next year expansions with the same idea in mind. The game might finally become playable.
What did blizzard mean by this?>>537157760I bet you drive below the speed limit too
>>537158383All of these good big spells are just a buff to mage since they're the only ones to play it, same with the priest se your health to 40.
>>537158887that was my thought. isn't the over 7 spell pool super small right now as well?
>>537159010its so small quest mage might as well be called wheel mage
>>537157760there wont be any players left next year
>handbuff is yet another highroll deck where if you draw poorly you can't play anything until turn 5i'm so tired of this shit man
>>537161763then dont play it retard.
>cheats out 2 ultragigasaurus >cheats 50+ armor for 8 mana>not increase powerlevelwarlock new druid
>>537171024what are you talking about
>>537171198new cards for warlockAlso Warrior>cheat Drakorex for 5 mana>res both for 3Aggro vs warrior is dead
post cards I'm not checking plebbit
>>537175028too bad its not Pro....s P....st
crafted nebula shaman on a whim to finish some questrerolled the quest later anywaybut this deck is pretty fun
>lose 3 games in a row as murloc pally>switch to agro demon hunter>now facing some weird control murloc pallyi literally cannot win. play six games of ladder is such an ass quest.
>>537181980>play six games of ladder is such an ass quest.i just queue wild and hit the play button, then alt tab and go play whatever im actually playing, after a few mins i alt tab back accept the loss and repeatCurrently playing Still Wakes the Deep
>>537182843i really should. i just can't win anything on ladder i don't know whats wrong with me.
>>537183080i enjoy playing HS but is on my terms, im not playing 6 games a day if i dont want to just because blizzard wants higher engagement.So i do that and just play other games meanwhile
>>537183269bg is a great time waster and that's what I usually stick to. i just don't know the regular game anymore. i'm at zero bonus stars at silver 5 and i'll never get to gold at this point.
>full mini set revealed>zero discussions about it>everything is such underpowered garbage that there is nothing to talk about
>>537190706murloc paladin got a new card. spell mage got a bunch of new cards to discover. retards at blizzard think warlock wants to play beast decks
>>537190957Beast support for anything that isn't hunter has always been half-assed.
>>537191409beast druid was almost a thing 3 or 4 years ago.
>>537190706Mostly because it feels like a lot of the cards are bad gimmicks or punish slow decks in a meta that is mostly about speed either in aggro or mana cheating. Outside of high legend where people tend to play slower decks so the meta tends to be slower than most of the ladder. It is hard to see most of these cards finding a home outside of things like the new murloc slotting into the murloc quest. I'm sure people will try and maybe some janky otk or something will be found, but I'm not expecting a metabreaker.
POST THE FUCKING CARDS YOU DUMB FUCKS I DONT KNOW WHAT THEY'RE
>>537193790no, fuck you
>>537193790they really aren't worth being talked about tbqhfam
I'm going to play quest hunter once the miniset comes out
>>537196248go on. how would you play it. what cards. for what purpose.
>>537193790We already did
>>537193790Here you go
>>537197609Where are the warlock and warrior cards that people are talking about then?
>>537198110you cant be serious
this looks kino
>>537199540why did they put ALL in caps? they fucked this up. capitalized ALL is supposed to be used when it attacks your own minions toofucking retards i swear they make their templating inconsistent and confusing on purpose
>archaic scroll trinket doesn't work with untamed sorcery quest rewardun-fucking-subbing
>>537062279>lost in the jungle but one of the bodies has rush>lets you play a rushing giant on turn 8>retarded brokenits a good card. its broken compared to the dogshit they're trying to print now, yeah. that says more about the current year's cards than growfin though
>theorycrafting when you can just netdeck day 1
>>537058446>soon they will realize printing cards that are actually good makes me moneyI fucking hope solook at the putrid shit they printed in emerald dream and lost city. what from those sets do you want to play post rotation next year? leech diaper knight? imbue slop? the quests will still be unplayable. all the current decks are built on the back of whizbang, maybe some perils and hunter has the discover package from GDB. post rotation meta will be fucking imbue paladin as t0 deck since it uses 0 cards from last year and was proven to be way WAY stronger than everything in emerald dream+lost city in the lost city prerelease brawl
>>537199315How are people so jaded summon 6 mana 14/28 Lifesteal is bad? Just play it in control along with all your other shit you will be either having it eat Hexes or full healing you while they feebly try to kill it.>>537199540I need this to breathe fire and be a Stegasauus that would make my life complete.
>>537205547>summon 6 mana 14/28 Lifesteal is bad?possessed lackey but shit isn't dying on turn 6, its dying turn 7. so you summon a blob of stats with lifesteal that does nothing on turn 7, then on turn 8 it can attackaggro has killed you because you passed turns 6 and 7 and diaper decks throw one of their 500 hard removals at the giant blob of stats and that's thatpossessed lackey worked because it summoned either a 5/7 charger that could be duplicated with cube or 18 health worth of taunts to immediately impact the board. if you were summoning pit lords off lackey in KnC you were losing 100% of your games
yea the underfel rift is retarded this nigger played it on turn 3 literally no counter once they play it and it's so fucking easy to clear the quest
>>537207328the funniest thing i saw happen was someone using the nagaling to cast two copies of the quest reward.
>>537190706MONKWILLSAVEUS
now what
you WILL spend 2k gold on this arena miniset
>>537215534make a fresh account and get that cheevo again, duh
>>537216701still the best gold to dust conversion rate possible. you ain't pulling 4 legendaries in 20 packs
>>537216950>you ain't pulling 4 legendaries in 20 packsI've done it in 5 packs before, and one of the legendaries was a signature.
>>537217243first 10 of a set? and signature doesn't count. those replace commons
>>537216812do you think they'll make more skins and another set of achievements for it? i didn't think i played that much i wonder how many other people have gotten it
Tried using Secretkeeper and Ethereal Arcanist in secret mage and neither really worked although the latter did get me some free wins just by mindlessly going face with it and spamming counterspell/spellbinder to protect itSecretkeeper is kinda hopeless though it often died either as a 1/2 or as a 2/3
>>537217984I'm not super far behind you. I assume you also have everything else done.
you have been doing this events dailes.. haven't you?
>>537235119I haven't played a single game of hearthstone in well over a week.
>>537207328most of the quests are insanely stupid if finished early.almost nothing beats the priest reward on 5, same with the hunter one if you discover the warlock legendary, same with the druid onerogue, shaman and dh are probably just not powerful enough even if you get them very early but if they keep "lowering the powerlevel" they are still overwhelmingjust really bad design imo
>>537205338where do you think netdecks come from retard
best wild aggro deck to bully everyone? i want to complete the fire festival missions fast
>>537216950yes but this only matters if you specifically want to own every single card in the game for some very strange reasonif you only want to play certain decks, it will always be smarter to simply craft cards as you need them, and disenchant the ones you aren't using anymore. if you do this you will very quickly realize how easy it is to have infinite dust
Just opened the pally quest, is it any good?
>>537245653>yes but this only matters if you specifically want to own every single card in the game for some very strange reasonno it doesn'tit gives you dust and makes it more likely you'll get cards you want from packthere is literally no downside unless you'd rather use your gold to buy all the skins in the shop for some reason
>>537248731No. It is just brainless play green card
How am I still having to tech for fucking murloc paladin in platinum man when will people stop playing this dogshit deck
this game is so obvious with the luck toggles, I was on like a 10 game win streak now suddenly i'm fighting absolutely nothing but the most insane starts
>>537249765where's double hallucination?
All the drink cards are by far some of the worst cards ever designed in hearthstone. So retardedly gamewarping, especially the deal damage ones, they're basically "if you have this card on your hand you LITERALLY under NO CIRCUMSTANCES can lose your early board".
>>537249765That’s not even a good turn 3. You can have two of them out with divine shield
>>537249826>>537250092Yeah 4/5 draw 2 buff your sentries draw a card is a terrible t3He also didn't have turn 5 and turn 6 back to bac resuscitates of courseLike the game is absurdly obvious with it. I was one game away from reaching plat and leaving it there then suddenly every opponent has a GOD start and I'm being unable to play cards until turn 4 or turn 5 sometimes.
what would be a faster rank grinder, wisp mage in wild or murloc pala in standard?
>>537250276murloc pala, combination of fast games and extremely lopsided matchups
>>537250474tell me the mulligan because i'm a retard
Yeah fuck handbuff I'm back to starship, it's genuinely the only fucking deck where I feel what I'm doing matters even in the slightest. Handbuff will roll some retards here and there but for some reason in plat there are STILL people playing fucking murloc paladin which means you lose against half the people playing here.
>most reddit man of all time>gets cuckedAhahahaha
>>537250529murmyand tidehunterif you get those two game is over right there
>>5372514782 murmies, tidehunter, opp goes coin epic growth, growth, aviana, nigga then draws anachronos for 1 mana and mark of the wild from the nature discount spell, fuck this shit
>>537251696Aviana is a joke deck
The ability of every single Shaman to have Hagatha on hand T4 is uncanny not going to lie.
I like that Nebula Shaman literally doesn't have one single weakness. It beats literally every fucking archetype, aggro can't get past the taunts, control can't outlast it, midrange can't outvalue it. The only counter is that it costs like 20k dust.
>>537248752yes it doesyou're getting "value" on unplayable legendaries and epics. that "value" literally only matters if you're rotating through every single deck/card in the game (no one does this), or if you want a full collectionbut anyway, it does depend on your current collection status and your intended playstyle. neither one is a universal rule. but i would strongly suggest that for the average person, based on how the average person plays, spending gold on a miniset is a waste of resourcesand it's a separate point but i'm also certain that the average person is too afraid to disenchant cards, because you have people (similar people to the 'miniset value' people) telling them that they might need cards for tavern brawls, or that it's "wasteful" to disenchant cardsthe avg player would be happier if they just crafted and disenchanted as needed. there is nothing wrong with doing this unless your account is piss-poor and you're super strapped for resources
>>537255606doesn't aggro pala rape it? huntard as well
>>537255991Depends entirely on whether it draws Hagatha or not.
>>537255606its actually horrible into aggro and also bad into rogue and quest warlock
>>537256024but it's not a make or break, it basically draws 2 cards and if it doesn't draw the decor it's fucked
>>537255606i miss 3 legendaries for that deck, hagatha, elise and nobundo, is it worth crafting them? 2 of them leave standard and i don't see this deck lasting in wild though
>mage against the ropes>yogg box>first time it gives him +10 HP and puts 3 taunts on the board>second time it does thisThis game is pathetic. Like genuinely the fact that decks like these are not only playable but stronger than average is fucking pathetic.
>>537255606it's like a worse rogue. rogue does the same thing but faster
>>537256269>plays DKbased gayboy mage raped your ass
>>537255709>you're getting "value" on unplayable legendaries and epics. that "value" literally only matters if you're rotating through every single deck/card in the game (no one does this), or if you want a full collectionyou get free dust retardto craft ANY card you wantyou'd have to buy 200 packs (20 000 gold) on average to get the 4 legendaries a single miniset containsthere's no better dealyou the kind of retard that spends all his gold on pack and can't afford miniset when they come out or something?
>frost DK does 3000 damage to my face>I don't draw A SINGLE fucking lifesteal card, when a single one would've won me the game and there are 7 in my deckthere is literally nothing skillful about this gameit's just the order your cards are in, an AI that picks the green card and plays it would play this game to about 90% of its possible "skill" level, make that 100% if it's aggro
>>537256089there are 6 cards it can draw, assuming none are in your hand you have about 45% chance of drawing decorif you draw it the game is over on the spot now there's a chance you also just draw it manually in which case you just play it manually and the game is also over on the spotadd any of shamans 25 board clears and hex and there is literally NOTHING aggro can do about that deck. like you have to either be extremely unlucky or completely retarded to lose to aggro with nebula shaman
>>537257801is it worth to build the deck?
>>537258268idk do you want to play the second best in the game that also will not get nerfed and has no real bad matchups into anything
>>537258303which is the first best
>>537258592cards rogue (or fyrakk as people like to call it for some reason)
What's the infinite marin thing? Play marin on no cards, wondrous wand, shuffle marin with corrupted dream, goblet?
>>537258797i need to get the miniset for that, fucki have these decks, what can i rush d5 withmurloc pala, aggro pala, ele mage, wisp mage in wild, big shaman in wild, pain dh, beast hunter, discard warlock in wild
>>537259208discardlock will be the fastest climb, beast hunter is hardest to fuck up
>>537259208discolock or murloc pally
>>537260094>>537260318alright gymboss it is then, what do i look for in warlock
>>537260519Play the cards that discard and discard the cards that play themselves when discarded. Don't worry about losing cards, spend mana play for tempo and go face
I don't get how Fyrakk rogue wins games honestly
>>537261915cheating out 9 mana cards 3-4 turns earlier and tempo
>>537261915weapon on 3coin pirate on 4mini naralex ysera step mini elise location step prep mini dubious step on 5mini fyrakk on 6
>>537261915Fyrakk wins by out tempoing their opponent plan and same. They are aggressive and they never run out of steam
>>537262314>>537262697>>537263230but how do you even get the board with no clears and just a bunch of shitty drops that generate other cardsi'm routinely finding myself at sub 20 health by turn 4 or 5 before i can start my hijinks
mech warrior is such a deck that definitely has to existit makes so much sense for a deck to proc a deal 8 damage deathrattle 6 or more times before turn 7
>>537269002rogue always lacked early game. your best play is creature of madness into a 3 drop, but if you can play scoundrel on 5 you will get tempo back usually. if they play minions the metal detector also gives you a lot of tempo. also rogue is bad in lower mmr for a reason. rogue is not good vs very aggressive decks. so if you are in gold or something the deck will struggle against decks that see 0 play in 5k legend
I was on a nice win streak to get to plat then for my last 10 games I'm 2-8. I'm playing against quite literally NOTHING but perfect draws every single match while my hand is clogged to shit, no matter what fucking deck, no matter what I do.
>>537269858what can i play to farm those cancer decks because this is extremely fucking irritatingi don't want to craft beast hunter but platinum is NOTHING but fucking murloc paladin and all of my decks get farmed by it
>>537269002yeah you make weak turns like pirate zacho then blow them out on turn 6 usually
>>537270725cliff dive demon hunter farms low mmr, aggro dh and elemental mage aswell, protos priest is quite strong, but you need the good curve. mech warrior is also very strong to climb but murloc paladin is one of the only bad matchups
>>537270725>>537250704umm actually murloc paladin is only a problem and sees play in silver and gold so it's not a cancerous deck and actually healthy for the game
is protoss mage the most boring deck to play against
>>537274521I just now roped a guy and AFKed from start to finish when he played that 3 damage protoss spell on curve. Not playing it.
>>537274897baaseed
>>537269002Fyrakk is the clear, in the exact same way that Yogg was for Druids back in the day. The random bullshit it does isn't intended to win the game, it's intended to largely stabilize and equalize the board state so rogue can start taking advantage of the retarded amounts of value in the deck to just win by tempoing them all out with the psuedo ramp from Metal Detector and the Scoundrels.
a tale in two parts
>>537274521I am somewhat of a Protoss enjoyer
>>537276464Ashamane Shadowstep is so unfun to fight against it’s not even funny
>>537269858>>537271470>>537276464Aight I got a much better idea, this deck is fucking fun why does rogue always get the most fun decks
>>537280089as a rogue main the main reason is outside of rogue often being "not terrible" vs most decks so you never feel hopeless facing class x or deck y, the most fun part about rogue for me is you often are still able to win if you miss the nutty turn. like 60% of my fyrakk rogue wins I never got the scoundrel or naralex turn. compared to a lot of decks that are insane if you hit but feel awful if you dont thats just more enjoyable in my opinion
>>537199540You can't attach wings onto something and call it dragon.
>>537271534toss priest gets giga farmed by murloc, it's too slow
what should I pick with Elise with Fyrakk? 5 mana location for tempo? I'm used to diaper so I just autopick armor spell most of the time but here it's probably different.
>>537199540More boardclears, how novel, exactly what the game needed, even more absurd ways to punish board based decks.
>>537284116It's not a linear gameplan. Pick what you need to win the game. If you're dying, armor is fine or spell to look for removal. If you're not, raptors and savage roar is good since it's free boards. You're also playing rogue, you can afford the tempo of playing the 10 mana version in slow matchups sometimes, especially if your hand is dry and you need value. Sometimes you need the 1 mana location to stabilize. If you're really unsure, go watch the last Master's tour qualifiers and see how they played the Rogue since almost everyone brought it.
>>537284596i'll give it a check, but how does the 1-mana location stabilize really? it just feels like its main purpose is giving you cheap copies of starship pieces in certain matchups, or some combos here and there
>>537285607Sometimes 2/1 rush and 3 armor is all you need to turn the corner and let the rest of your deck do it's job, especially in Rogue since it's such a fragile deck since you have no lifegain or armor.
Why does Paladin ALWAYS need to have a fucking braindead play green card on curve 60% winrate deck seriously I fucking despise this class so much
>>537286173for the alliance
I stopped playing paladin when they added the diversity recruits
>>537287826>REPORT FOR THE DUTY SAR!those are the first to get traded away and killed off though
>>537287826>None of the nu-recruits are modeled George or Karl One job
>>537288808were these just modeled after the interns or something?
What can I substitute a bookkeeper with for ele mage? I only have one and im not gonna craft another for a dummy aggro deck.
>>537293149blasteroid but bookkeeper is one of the best cards in the deck
lol
>>537297537This is support for the second best quest in the game and good one at that. Hopefully it finally gets the fucking quest nerfed so I can dust that trash.
>>537297537wow maybe a tier 4 deck will be tier 3 now, the horror
>>537298354>Its not broken at the highest levels of play therefore there’s nothing wrong with the design Fuck off
>>537298354THISit didnt see play in top 10 legend so its not a cancerous 3rd worlder deck
>>537298709>>537299096>gold 8 complaints
i finished the fire festival quest line and got a golden epic.
>>537293854I know but that shit is never seeing play outside that deck and being aggro i don't think it'll have such a huge impact considering how fast games will be
Discourse around quest paladin is extremely annoying because it came out and people wildly overreacted calling it a tier 0 deck. That clearly wasn't true, but then people overreacted again and pretended the deck is actually unplayable dogshit when in reality is that it's a pretty good deck and especially brutal against mid tier decks. People also like to pretend that it's a skill issue when it's probably the flattest deck in the game. Hence why it's pretty rare to see in top 5k because why would you play a boring ass deck with no fun mechanics or meaningful choices to have 52% winrate.But it also doesn't mean it's bad.
I was struggling at platinum to get Diamond then swapped to elemental mage and won 8 straight to get it lmaoThank you Jaina you truly are my greatest ally.
>>537256269>dragon skinMy deathknigga you lost to a bot
Daily reminder that even if you are bronze 5 the game can still match you up with legend players
>>537315791i don't like how he's always complaining and only chooses to upload his winning matches
>>537316136I don’t like that he plays Renathal in combo decks and complains when he cant topdeck his combo piece
>>537315791worth spending an afternoon absolutely tanking your MMR buy minimizing the game and losing
>chump is still making videosWhat's pushing this man forward?
>>537318526tism
>>537318526He’s the only “big” standard YouTuber who’s even remotely watchable. As long as he owns that niche there’s no reason to stop making videos.
>>537316136>only chooses to upload his winning matchesAre you retarded? His entire shtick is unplayable meme combos. No one wants to watch a video on a meme combo constantly losing games, they want to see the combo work.
>>537320047>He’s the only “big” standard YouTuber who’s even remotely watchablewarshackbros........not like this
I really need to stop fucking forgetting to coin BEFORE using sandbox scoundrel holy shit
>>537322857>anon preps coin in the year 2025cute
>>537320047Does Dane count? He sometimes uploads standard vids
>enter arena>against mage>has infinite legendary spell on turn 3cool game
Man fyrakk rogue absolutely farms murlocs why didn't I start playing this shit soonerMight actually even consider crafting Opu or Ashamane
just beat a quest rogue with a hearth deck in arenaneedless to say, the clown fiesta was peak hearthstone
>>537324618Bugrle also farms Sleeper and Bob 4 times and go face They literally cant do anything
>>537324618lots of decks farm murlocsthe problem is they aren't fun to play
cora TASKATE
>>537315791correct, why does this need reminding.matchmaking is based on mmr and ony mmr. that's why anyone "hard stuck" at any rank is retarded. you can concede as many times as you want at a rank floor and climb to legend playing against bots and illiterate children. its also why any data outside of top 1k legend is useless
I can't stop losing in battlegrounds
>Place 2nd in BGs>Lose 2 points This is some fucking bullshit
>>537349291bg has its own hidden mmr, when that happens it means you were playing against literal children and retards. you didn't get anything because you should have beat them. not like it matters, there is nothing to gain with a high bg rating other than bragging rights.
>>537274521nah death wheel warlockplay 1 game you are done with hearthstone for an entire month
Which should I craft? Already have Leech Death Knight obviously (was my free deck)have 1680 dust
>>537353717nothing. just slam the deck you have over and over again until next expansion. maybe buy the miniset for more easy dust.
>>537355959Which miniset? And how does it equal easy dust?
>>537359103miniset comes out in a few weeks, it's 2k gold and has some legandaries. essentially because the pity timer is 40 you actually 'save' gold by just buying the mini set and dusting what you dont like instead of wasting 4000 gold on packs. up to you, it doesn't really matter in the long run.
>missed a day of event quests
>>537367425No pack for you
>returning to HS>oh cool, death knight and demon hunters are new classes>boot up arena>wow, the card quality really got an upgrade huh>pick warlock because it's my favorite class>play the arena mode with 2 losses, get reasonably good success>Underground unlocked, oh so this is the OG arena let's go>bought 2 tickets for 300g>DK 1>lose>DK 2>lose>DK 3>losewhy did nobody tell me that HS is washed? no wonder kripp stopped playing arena what is this shit
So should I save my gold for the minipack just for the dust?t. noob retard
>>537374520Yeah
>>537374581Thanks, bwo.*pats your head*
Bitterbloom Knight on curve? ALT+F4.
>>537352835for me it's playing wheelock and spamming umbra's 'do not test my patience' emote
>>537353717elemental mage is extremely cheap and strong
i made this deck and its either bad or i dont understand how to run itany advice?
>>537297537lol not gonna helpstart running silences metaslave
>>537377632remove all value cards add bob and sleeper... maybe you have chance vs aggro
>>537377903i dont even know what value cards are...
Protoss Priest is honestly such a shitty deck, it's so stupidly reliant on having certain draws to do anything at all.
>>537378009MarshspawnSerpentNimbusIncindus(not really value but slow)
>>537378029it suffers from cora design. disgustingly vile if it curves out perfectly into kind of a joke if it doesnt
If I use prep with Shaladrassil in hand then play a 7 cost minion, then use the prep for a different spell, does Shaladrassil get corrupted anyway? It just checks when a card is played if it was costlier than Shaladrassil, right?
>>537378029Half your deck is draw and tutors. Just dont let them have an early board and pop off turn 6I have a 65% winrate with it, it is very underappreciated
>>537379604as far as I know, maybe they changed it, shala checks if a higher cost card was played when you cast it. So turn 7 you play a 7 drop with 8 mana shala in hand. next turn 8 mana shala isn't corrrupted but if you cast prep the 6 mana shala is. Again they may have changed it and it would work the way you describe if they did but I've not messed with it much since the nerf.
>>537380000went vs AI to try it and it works like that, if you cast something higher than 6 mana while a prep shala is in your hand shala is corrupted for the rest of the game
>>537352603>knows about hidden mmr>calls bots children and literal retards instead of botsinteresting
It's always nice when Fyrakk decides it's time to draw 9 cardsThat being said Fyrakk rogue is the most fun deck right now
is terran shaman playablei found out this card exists and i love siege tanks
>>537381119It used to be very good when it came out. Look up terran shaman decks
>>537381119you could probably still get away with playing it in any deck that runs shudder
Speaking of unused StarCraft cards. Just got Thor'ed out of nowhere and killed. Not even mad. Was wondering why he kept launching shitty little ships with 1-2 pieces all game.
>>537381462used to play shartship shaman a lot, doesn't work with nu shudder to go face
>>537385160>>537381119the starcraft miniset really did have soul
>>537385538as god intended
Finally, some chudwarrior up->MinionFUCK!!!!!!!!!
i can't help but think how much healthier the meta would be if menagerie never got nerfed. the menagerie decks would keep rogue and the super greedy cheat stuff in check without being overwhelming
The meta is healthy if you talk about balance. The issue is the meta is STALE.
The meta is fine, if you think decks should only be playable for a single expansion and the meta should be changed every two weeks you don't enjoy hearthstone. Un'goro changed plenty of decks.
>>537392070Protoss decks were release in January 2025. It is currently September 2025.
Fat fuck Zeddy said this card won't see play.
>>537392520And your argument is that they should release another power infused set like that just so they can 'spice' things up?Mana cheating and card draw are the two most powerful effects in the game, nothing beats them, nothing. Even mediocre cards that combine those effects are too powerful and create decks that cannot be beaten. Now go over and see what the starcraft set is as a whole and how many cards combine in themselves both mana cheating and resources generations. There's a reason why the devs struggle so much to create anything meaningful or strong, because the only thing that can stand up to those effects is just more mana cheating and the issue will be once again repeated. Where nothing else they print can ever see play if it also doesn't have massive ammount of mana cheating and card draw, making every deck feel the same and bluring the lines between archetypes even more. The devs are retarded to trying to bring down power level like this, they needed to bite the bulelt at the beginning of the year and either do a total overhaul or do an unprecedented rotation where they remove a lot more sets as a one time thing. but of course they took half mesures. So now we're stuck in limbo waiting for next rotation so we can see, if they actually stay true to their vision of bringing down power level, if all of this will actually bear fruit.
>>537393523What is your proposal then? Release an irrelevant expansion? Reminder that Starcraft doesn't rotate till APRIL 2026.
>>537393870Do early rotation of the previous year sets, something they should have done with emerald release. Or some sort of swap of cards from standard to wild and wild to standard. At this point It's just ride it out and hope the metas are not too terrible. You can't balance stuff like paradise or starcraft, they're broken by design and even nerfed versions of them will continue to dominate. It's going to be kind of scuffed but just rotate all of it and leave us with the tree expansiosn of this year once the next one rotates.
It's interesting that despite the expansion being generally quite low power level it does have one of the most meta-defining cards in quite some time, Elise the Fertile is going to be in every single deck that has reason to run different cost cards until she rotates out.
>>537394415The meta is not terrible. The meta is stale. There is no terribly broken deck at the moment, the issue is there are decks that the playerbase has been playing against for 6 months. It is unfun and boring. And if this miniset is ass, it result in a stale meta till the next expansion, there has never been a period of time where HS has been this fucking ASS when it comes to deck variety.
>>537394704She's 100% going to get nerfed next year to not be able to give you a copy on 1 mana location.
>>537394851If that's the general consensus they why are people not talking about a change in how rotation works? Maybe each new expansion should rotate the oldest one and appose to doing it all at once.
>>537395775That would actually be ideal for Blizzard in terms of balance but Blizzard is not going to sell cards and then rotate them out in one expansion.Despite the playerbase moaning and whining, the playerbase is okay with overpowered decks as long as they are new and fresh. It is more healthy for a game to have new decks to keep players interested than a "balanced" meta with stale decks.
>>537393330He's right this time.>>537391715We'd be in a much better spot if they didn't nerf it, but the current team despises board based decks and seeks to punish them every chance they get.
streamer rigging doesn't existon other news here's tictac getting 10 highroll net positive win the game on the spot fyrakks in a row
if i shadowstep a dark gift minion does it lose it
>900xp, reroll into 900xp>following day get second 900xp, reroll into 900xp>3rd day get another 900xp, it also rolls into 900xpAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
>>537370023>washedKys zoomer
>>537394704>hips and tummySEEEEEXXXXXX
>>537393330What are you copying? Quest rewards maybe
>>537401107fyrakk, zilliax, elise, gnomelia, bob, shudderblock
>>537401107Something big that your opponent drops that would be game-changing or extremely advantageous to mirror
>>537395775oh boy, I can't wait to pay money for cards that are not only useless but also get soft deleted in 4 months the meta is stale because they are intentionally printed trash that they know won't see play. it doesn't matter how you dance around that issue, the game will suck until they go back to making cards that are fun to play
Do you guys think Battlegrounds will stick around? I just came back from a looooong break from around the time they introduced DH.Looks like they did a whole Mercenaries thing that they abandoned.It’s really strange to me that Battlegrounds doesn’t really share any of the items or rewards from the base game. Portraits, card backs, nothing.And it’s even weirder to me that the emotes you can get in Battlegrounds can’t be used in the base game. Like why the hell not? Strikes could be usable in base game on your heroes that attack too.Just doesn’t make a lot of sense, especially with their reward tracks being separate. Feels like you’re being torn in two directions.
>>537408215BG is by far more popular than standard
>>537408272 It is popular but not more popular
>>537408530There are more people watching BGs on twitch than Standard. Standard literally has ONE alive streamer atm.
>>537408637Watching =/= playing
>>537408957You didn't say play. You said popular.
>>537409163Do you have autism
>>537409767Do you? BG is more popular than Standard. Do you have anything to backup the fact that standard is played more than BGs?
>>537409946Do you think Blizz ranks the popularity of their products using twitch viewship, or player numbers?
>>537412332Still waiting for your proof of popularity
>>537412403Retard
>>537412751Standard is dying and I am sure this ass of an expansion will turn people off from buying the next one since the devs outright said they designed the Quest (the gimmick of the set) to be fucking shit.
How is it that MTG Arena had a disable emotes feature for over 5 years, yet Hearthstone doesn't? There's literally no excuse.
>>537418835the excuse is that they don't want to add one. It's been a requested feature for 11 years. They simply won't do it.
>>537418835You can mute the other player
>>537418835
>>537419503I assume he means auto-squelch instead of having to manually do it every match
>>537421953Damn, it actually tilts people when I spam emotes?I’ll keep doing it then
>>537412991>devs outright said they designed the Quest (the gimmick of the set) to be fucking shit.Where did they say this
>>537422929Interview. What they actually said was that they didn't want the quests to be game winning on the spot in the way that Stormwind quests were, so they were trying to keep the powerlevel lower this time around.
>>537424313thats based though
>>537424313There’s literally nothing wrong with that
>>537428608I'm not the one saying it was a bad idea, though making Warlock quest reward a spell instead of a minion was a dumb idea since they clearly didn't forsee the interaction with Nagaling, meanwhile Shudder + Shaman reward being a minion should have been on their mind and probably wasn't given how much of a powerlevel difference it brings to the deck.
rate the miniset out of ten
>>537429404It’s not out yet bud
they've shown every card
>>537431057Where can I view them all
>>537431334https://www.hearthstonetopdecks.com/day-or-rebirth-card-reveals/
>>537431057and they all stink.
>>5374294042/10 might not even buy it. murloc pally got one card to play, quest mage got a few cards to discover and play.
>>537380675are there bots in BG too? i know kids that play it
Playable?
>>537434945its not banned so yes.
I always make silly slurping sounds whenever I use leeches with DK.
>>537432695you can just craft the cards from the set... or with duplicate protection just pull them all in a few packs. unless youre starved for dust this shit just isnt worth it. these cards are ass and unplayable.
This archetype should genuinely just be called creature of madness X because it's what's actually winning the game. Or just goodstuff, you just slam creature of madness, naralex fyrakk ysera zilliax shaladrassil package, slot in a bunch of good cards from your class and call it a day. Of course you need a way to cheat out the dragon stuff but I'm pretty sure every class can probably do well with this, DK isn't as explosive as Rogue but it's so much more stable and has an actual early game.
will anyone ever beat the dust bomb that was the starcraft miniset
>opponent starts pointing randomly generated shit at my face when i still have 25 hp>i immediately know i'm dead with no way out>2 turns later i'm dead to randomly generated shit continually pointed at my face>like 5 different spells all pointed at my facenice game you fucking faggots
golden and regular packs are on different pity timers right
MTG Arena players make fun of Hearthstone playersHearthstone players make fun of MTG Arena playersWhy
do you EVER run out of resources in this fucking game?they just keep taking 8 fucking actions per turn and the number of cards in their hand goes up not down, what the fuck is this?
>>537444012Go play MTG if it bothers you, where you can get mana screwed
>>537443783>>537444136is MtG really doing spider-man cards now?
why is this card so shit
>>537445842someone used this on me to clear my agro pally board.i couldn't play any minions on 4. so i equipped the hammer and shoved it into his face.still lost.
>>537445842because it doesn't refill your hand and over-reward you for playing normal cards like every other degenerate card in this stupid ass game
>>537443783where do hearthstone players get off making fun of MTGA players lmao
im still doing my quests with a shitty prenerf menagerie dk deckyou wouldnt know there was a whole ass expansion between that and now
>WAAAAH WAAAAAH>WHY CAN'T EVERY EXPANSION BE SUPER DUPER 0 MANA EVERYTHING INFINITE DRAW 40 DAMAGE FROM HAND >WAAAH WAAAAAAH>CORA CORA I SHAT MYSELF AGAIN WAAAAH WHERES MY INSTA WIN A DRAW CARD THAT'S THE ONLY WAY I KNOW HOW TO PLAY WAAAAAAAH
>>537448857>print broken shit for years in never ending powercreep>finally decide to change course and bring it down>neglect to nerf all the shit will now dominate for a year and a half until it rotates>???>profit
You know as I was shooting a 15 attack ghoul to my opponent's face to close out a game I was thinking how hasn't DK's hero power been changed to be rush yet? It's so obviously and clearly the best hero power in the game, by a much larger margin than it used to be among the original classes.
>>537450106DH is still the best hero power, anon, by virtue of being one mana instead of two. DK's has charge because it needs to be able to go face because the devs learned from how miserable Priest healing the opponent's face on two felt that hero powers need to have an effect on an empty board, and while there are buff effects that can work on the ghoul that don't on other hero powers, it doesn't benefit from other scaling effects like Mage's ping does as well as getting cucked by taunt and a couple other things. Yea, a rush ghoul would still do the nice thing of creating a corpse for you to spend later, but spending two mana for that instead of getting the one chip damage as well would feel bad.
>>537450106How did they get a ghoul to 15 fucking attack?>>537450510DK's hero power is also strong as shit at 1 mana, I'd rate it as the second strongest (vanilla) HP, at least in wild. But that competition isn't particularly hard.
>>537450747dissolving ooze
>>537450510I feel like DH's hero power has the issue of constraining it into aggro though while DK is by far the most versatile one.>>537450747Elise location -> Nightmare. Can go up to 19 actually if Elise location is +4 ATK.
>>537450982I disagree, because 1 mana deal 1 is fucking insane tempo for a control deck to ping things, and provides value for all the lifesteal cards that DH has. Starship DH is the diaper-est of control decks ATM, after all.
>>537450982Most HPs are very constraining, only ones that aren't are mage and dk which are almost the same HP and warlock, which is bullshit.Also anon is right, DH HP is a slightly better (because cheaper) druid HP and that hero power barely got used as a beatdown tool.
Priest hp could be changed to heal 3 and absolutely nothing would change
>>537443541yesfirst ten guaranteed a legendarybuy golden one packs at a time until you get your pity then no more
>>537445842This is an honest board clear. Not good enough in modern HS I'm afraid.
>>537449243this is probably unironically profitable for them at this point because the addicts and streamers are gonna play whatever slop they're fedprinting power crept new shit to keep people on the hook or draw in new players is probably just a waste of time
>>537450510>DH is still the best hero power, anon, by virtue of being one mana instead of twoso what? rogue gets to do the same thing twice for 2 mana, which could be argued as being just as powerfulit depends on the context, what class synergies are available and whatnot. and by those metrics dh's hero power is definitely not the best in the game. not even close
>>537453287>Opportunity cost isn't real>DH HP stacks with weapons>>>DH is one fucking mana
>>537445842Bad runes, mightve actually been playable with just an unholy oneFrost always seems to get the shit end of the stick.
>>537453287>finding two mana is as easy as finding one mana twice early game
I miss Enrage Warrior
>>537452993>the addicts and streamers are gonna play whatever slop they're fedStreamers? What streamers?https://www.twitch.tv/directory/category/hearthstoneThe top 2 streamers for Hearthstone right now are Jeef (3.5k) and Beter (1.1k). Both are BG streamers. The 3rd highest is Dane who is playing standard with 300 viewers. Then 4th is an arena player. That is all. There are no more streamers playing standard.
This has to be the weaker miniset ever released, right? Like forget about build arounds, there are like what, three playable cards overall?
>>537453538ok? rogue's mana investment persists indefinitely, dh's must be used immediatelyyou're acting like this is an open and closed case and it clearly isn'twho even thinks dh's hero power is notably good? what a retarded argument, i shouldn't be engaging with it
>>537455372The funniest thing is that you actually believe the second weakest hero power in the game after Priest's is actually comparable to the strongest in the game, and if you're too dumb to understand why, go watch any DH deck played and see how many times they press hero power vs literally anything else that isn't a build around like Imbue decks.
>>537455372Damn bro you dumb as a bag of bricks huh?I can also use your retarded logic, warrior is the best HP (persists forever!) and warlock is the worst (reduces your HP AND gets you close to fatigue ayo what the fuuuuck?!).
>>537453954Anyday we'll get another card.
>>537454819Honestly this entire year was so strangely bad overall whatever you can think of. College Football might be good.
>>537448857Very nice nuanced critique and expansion release HOWEVER i will just play the good stale slop from 4 expansions ago how about that meta
>>537455372DH has access to a lot of cards that synergize with your hero attacking and you can do that for one mana every turn
>>537455846Just put Battle Rage back in standard, who even plays Cargo Guard?
Yeah the mini expac looks like ass I’m not spending gold on thatActual dogshit cards 1 or 2 are interesting but would rely on asspull setups that would maybe win you 1/10 games
Standard will actual die if they release slop that no one wants to play.
>>537455697ddiq post
I really really really liked that deck many years ago where Rogue would just mill the enemy to deathIs there any deck like that right now
>>537461894Blizzard decided mill was unfun so only wild gets the old mill decks now.
Speaking of unfun playstyles, remember when Blizz tried to remove Charge from standard only to give up like an expansion later?
>>537461894Warlock has a mill deck as a part of a big endgame combo
This might be first mini set that might be an actual skip since all the cards are ass and likely won't recieve any nerfs. You are better off crafting the select fews that are playable.
>>537462460>hall of fame leeroy after everyone already has crafted it>please buy new pirate leeroy for 14.99 plus tip ;^)
>>537462792It is just an OTK deck using mill as a win condition.
>>537462889You'll note that I mentioned it's a big combo, anon.
>>537462810Sucks if you’re a Warrior or Rogue player
>>537463284Rogue is doable since card protection and you can open those in packs still. Warrior needs the Lego.
>>537462826I’m just mad my boi got caught in the crossfire and hasn’t been allowed back in standard since
This arena game ended by me discovering that 10 mana card that gives you 40 health twice.
>roll signature legendary>it's a meme that doesnt even get displayed on the boardreward might look cool I guess....
WHY DOES STARSHIP DH EXIST???WHY DOES NOBODY PLAY IT YOU GET 78 DAMAGE GUYS ITS SO RETARDEDLY EASY TO SPAM TAUNTS AND YOU GIVE A CHARGE MINION 78 DAMAGE AND IGNORE TAUNTSWHHHHHHAAAAAT
>>537466290it's bad into rogue so it's unplayable
>>537462826leeroy got dust refunded twice and smite got dust refunded and that miniset also had an edwin that was buffed and reverted and dust refunded.
>>537465740i think the weapon is just golden. also it's never going to see play. ever.
>>537466492the poster you're responding to is at murloc paladin MMR, not rogue mmr.
>>537467353The entire ladder is rogue MMR.
they should just nerf dubious purchase and the pirate and trust that rogue will still be playable after
When’s the Diablo crossover expansion
>Seven whole cards Why is Hearthstone like this? Three cards is nothing. No wonder people quit on turn 2 or 3 so often, or even 1. There is often nothing to play
>>537472498over a third of your deck in magic isn't cards
Play Cunnyverse.
>>537468757Pirate would be fine if Shadowstep didn’t exist
>>537467081They should nerf some more shit so I can get dust
>>537473501>tfw want to play shadowverse but I'm not trans
>>537460693>release slop that no one wants to playRemember the food expansion?
>rank d6 3 stars w/ huntard>lose ALL THE WAY TO d10 0 stars>switch to beeg pp mage>3 losses and back to d5Why do i have to go through this
>>537480009How are you not already D5 on the last day of the season?
>>537480494I don't play this shit on a daily basis, i still have to finish the event for the gold pack
Amulet of Passions (Created by Griftah, Trusted Vendor (Created by Relic Miner (Created by Creature of Madness (Created by Nightmare Fuel))))
>>537472498You also draw one, which you dont do in mtg and ygh
>>537488350yes hearthstone essentially has 4-5 card opening hands to mtg's 7-8, but 3 of the cards in the MTG hand are lands.
>>537489743>but 3 of the cards in the MTG hand are lands.if you dont get fucked, yes
>>537490530You get a free mulignan if you get less than 3 lands
>>537491661dam really? since when has that been a thing? I stopped playing around the first ravnica set came out and then played a tiny bit more until they kept shoving the same planeswalkers in everything.i think my last deck was a red and black vampire deck with a bunch of madness cards.
>>537491887Never mind, I googled a bit and apparently it was just house rules where I played
>>537491887they did change the mulligan rules a few years ago. Now you redraw 7 every time and choose which cards to put on the bottom of your deck equal to the number of times you mulligan.
>ended the month in goldI just don't care anymore, playing just feels shitty
>>537492184>>537492637huh. maybe i'll check out mtg arena. getting land fucked was the most annoying thing other than constantly needing to buy the new shit.that and dealing with the stack. maybe i wont.
>>537493573Arena has london mulliganAnd you dont have to manage the stack the game manages it for you. Same with counters.
>>537493723are jace and the justice league still running around? they got super boring after a while. I saw a weatherlight card that looked new and didn't know they'd reach that far back. Whose next, Urza?
>>537493573Bo1 in arena also has a hand smoother algo. It'll generate 2 starting hands for your deck and show you the one that is closer to the optimal ratio of lands given the number of lands in your deck.
People are pretending like the mini-set will shake up anything but realistically what cards are going to be used?DK spell might slot into Herenn but Herenn is bad already.DH cards are useless.Druid will probably use the egg for token.Hunter cards are useless.Mage will slot in poly into quest (because quest mage needs to be better everybody loves playing vs it)Murloc paladin will probably slot in the new one.Priest cards are useless.Rogue cards are useless.Shaman cards are useless. Warlock cards are useless.Quest warrior will probably slot in Dracorex because it struggles with clears. Maybe not even that honestly.Neutrals are useless except for tutor 0 ATK.So 5 or maybe 6 cards will be used and none are build around or open a new deck they just slightly improve existing ones.Also what the fuck is up with this one. They could not even give the fucking beast elusive? Or rush?
>>537495762Blizzard are committed to shit cards. They will reverse their decision when the next expansion flops saleswise.
dogshit miniset but its extremely funny that by far the most benefitted deck is murloc paladin and this might actually push it forward quite a bit
>>537495762murloc paladin will be really good below top ranks and slop control will get some support. amazing card design as alwaysgreat job cora and the girls!
>>537495762This is most minisets to be honest. The starcraft set is an oddity, usually you have like 3 good cards max, or some shit like Dungar that pop off with later cards
>well it's time to play my first bronze 10 standard matches of the month>let me do my dailies and weeklies too, i'll play this quest deck>protoss priest>aggro hunter>murloc paladini think i don't like this game anymore
>>537459385They won't because last time enrage warrior has meta, sTRANSdard players had a megamelty.
>>537497063you're going to queue into way sweatier players trying to ladder the first day.
>>537497063>next match: guy cheats out the deathrattle 8 damage mech on turn 4>>537497119i'm gonna bust out my meta deck too, fuck these fuckers
>>537497063>Why is my opponent trying to win instead of LETTING ME DO MY THING??!It’s like I’m playing commander again
>well it's time to play my first bronze 10 standard matches of the month>let me do my dailies and weeklies too, i'll play this dogshit deck of bad cards with no payoff>Real deck priest>Real deck hunter>Shitter stomper paladini think i am having a cucky melty these netdeck neonazis are why i am stuck at bronze 9!!!
Why is this cora defender in here constantly defending this shit expansion?
fucking idiot trying to have fun playing standard
game so ez
>>537492640I was diamond but did not the feel to push to legend.Pointless and unfun because of the constant rigging.
>>537499023Cant tell, did you play druid or warrior
if fyrakk is immune to fire spells why do fire spells that destroy a minion affect him
>>537501497neither
love it when my wallow is the last card in the fucking deck vs a murloc paladin like fuck off stupid rigged shit game
What makes a person troon out at age 52
>>537503331deep loneliness and a society that has punished men for being men for the last 20 years. its really not a laughing matter
>>537502953you didn't draw 29 cards against a murloc pally you liar
>>537503624yes I did and would have won if the game wasn't rigged against me
also can we talk about why the fuck does reborn count towards the paladin quest like holy shit
>>537504826because a tier 4 deck needs all the help it can get?
>>537503331leftism
>>536654129>monk will save uscorrect
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