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>>536694261Sex with Alice>>536693993Prove me wrong, pussy
2nd for best canon SMT couple.
>>536694709Erm that's not Amanozako fujosisterI wonder how many fujofags are into women getting cucked
Alice Heroine.
Fifth for the little chef guys (I found fanart of them).
>>536696050Amanozako isn't a cuck. She's Aogami also. When he wins, she wins too.
>>536698581Zamn this girl is lucky
>>536698829If only she wasn't so tsun she could get a taste.
>:o
>>536687626depending on your style, how much for Asahi sex
>>536694261>[Open] [Open] [Open]
>>536698547>>536699361Gay.
>>536696896i inject the alice
>Atlus will have absolutely nothing to show at Tokyo Game Show unless they do a surprise announcement in September (doubtful)Grim
>>536700351Whats wrong with the chefs? Have you ever played If... or are you a secondary
>>536701526he thinks hazama is gay because he is
>>536701178>The Persona x Overwatch collaboration could be the only thing Atlus has for the rest of the yearDear God...
Sometime you try so hard, and get so far, but in the endIt doesn't even matter
>>536701650samefag
>>536702263nope
>>536702461how is hazama gay when half his issues are tied to how he craves women?
>>536702661he isn't. i'm saying that anon projects his own faggotry onto hazama.
>>536702773ohh yeah, in that case i agree
IV is the best SMT because it has the best soundtrack
>>536702661Being into girls is a huge sign of being gay, that's just how it is bro.
>>536702134What the fuck do they do all day?
I rember when game companies could release multiple games + spin-offs in a single yearGame development is easier than ever, what the fuck happened?
>>536704390All SMTs have good soundtracks thoughever except If... on the SNES and Strange Journey (not bad but gets monotonous)
>>536705801games aren't as profitable as merch and gacha, why invest in them?
>>536694261the poll ended and smt 2 won
>>536706371I would play it if the PSX version was translated but I don't feel like replaying the snes version so I'm gonna skip. Sorry, I know everyone was really excited for me to play it...
>>536706284SMT barely gets merch.
>>536706553SMT is barely profitable at all compared to what Personoids will slop up, I don't know how much Persona merch there is but it probably makes more profit than V did lol.
>>536705678Think about the next P5 collaborations.
I bet it's because of voice actor faggotry
>>536706808>PersonoidsI was going to say Personafags are sick of that too but then I see them clamoring for more remakes and realize your're correct
>>536706371I was hoping for 4a but ggs to the other anons. I'll probably play 4A while this goes on
If I give Tao Boon Boost EX will she keep her skills in NG+? Planning on True Neutral CoC ending btw
>>536712942stfu we don't talk about V here
>>536706808>roleplaying as a retardV & VV are among the most profitable Atlus titles everIt just so happens that they went out of debt after VV's insane success
>>536706371Gonna join. Don't know if I could have been assed with MT with how annoying it gets later on.
>>536712942After CoC you get a prompt to register your current Tao in the compendium then she's available for free in NG+ so I would assume so but I've never actually tried to resummon her. Just watch out because you temporarily can't use her right near the final boss which is annoying as fuck if she's your main support. I learned this the hard way.
shijima bros I don't feel so good...
>>536704390unfortunate that soundtrack on its own is not enough to make up for its flaws, it's still a very good and enjoyable game
>>536714989Yeah I already got the neutral end but i reloaded the save before the alignment lock to beat Shiva, Masakado and Demifiend. Probably just gonna give Boon Boost EX to Sakuya or something
give me your fucking essence reeeeeeee
>>536715602Sir, please do the needful
sole hackers
yosuga bros I feel so good...
>>536701526>Have you ever played If...I'm a Yumifag, in fact
>>536717707That Saki artbook looks nice.
>>536706371i'll be joining again as kerberos.i did have fun with 4 but didn't finish it. i played the shit out of that game and so i just didn't really get into it this time i guess. idk.but i did enjoy reading what everyone posted about it.
>>536734162my wife
>>536734162The veil reminds me of a certain picture...https://rule34.xxx/index.php?page=post&s=view&id=8089485&tags=jenna_angel+
>>536736796like mother like daughter-son-in-law
DX2's adding lamia with a pose/design closer to the SMT1 sprite
>>536734162cute
>AI now can do code>still zero new fangames in 2025
>>536741508AI slop fangames will save SMT... yep...
>>536743873Would anyone actually mind if the AI is behind the scenes stuff like code? Like yeah I agree theres a clear difference in quality and appeal between ai art and real art, but does the code matter as long is it functions as intended?
>>536744001If it works it works. I'm just running under the assumption that if someone is going to use AI to program, they'll use it for art too.
>>536738742Now that's what I call a lazy update. Jesus.
>>536744262I think its just a filler update, they basically shadowdropped this one with no fanfare, but theres an actual proper event next week where they're presumably gonna announce something of substance
>>536741508There is one guy making SMT fangames using AI art and some shitty free engine. You don't hear about him because his work is complete trash. Do you get it now?
>>536744262The game is almost 8 years old, the fact it isn't in EoS yet is impressive
>>536741508>ask ai to make fusion system>it spits out code that doesnt do anything
use AI to make a real DSP instead
>>536745252>ask AI for Pascal>it spits out Asahi
>>536748272These images really make me think 1st person dungeon crawler megaten with photorealistic urban tokyo graphics (i'm NOT saying like AAAA overproduced slop, more like real photo composites or something) could be kino
>>536748272>"There is an incel at our school trying to kill us all. Want to lend us a hand? You'll get a free ipad."
>>5367063711 -> 4 -> 2huh weird selection but alright
>>536748272>>5367486412DHD if it didn't look like shit
>>536748548oh I know what you mean like old denpa VNs like Higurashi, For Elise and Tsui no Sora? That would be neat haha. I think Tsukihime used literal photos too.
literally posted here a few years ago
>>536715602I believe the rate for them to give essence goes up significantly on the full moon. Save scum level ups at that time.
Why doesn't SMT have many fan games?
>>536751020There is something very sad and telling about how the most high-profile and well-regarded SMT fangame is for Touhou.
>>536706371>>536694261真 /smtg/ plays anchor post真 /smtg/ plays page:>https://rentry.org/shin-smtg-playsany suggestions for the event or rentry page?smt 2 won and the event has begun!remember that you'll need 10 points in aleph's magic to progress past a certain point.>have you played smt 2 before?>excited to play it now?>any tips/secrets to share?>what do you think of smt 2's opening?>what alignment route are you going for?
>>536751020All the jp devs are too busy adding in random bullshit for a text game >>536751715You are not even wrong. It’s hilarious that this was done twice
I'm starting to think VV really is getting a dlc update. They've been silent for too long and there doesn't appear to be any sign of VI on the horizon. I think they are probably working on another remake/rerelease at the same time too. Likely IV.
>>536752036I don't want to play SMT2
>>536752036Signing up. Name is Raizou. Probably gonna go for Law. Never actually finished the game before so let's see how this goes.
>>536752036not going to join this time around since I did SMT2 right after 1 lolbut just saying FUCK MAGIC MAKE HIRUKO PHYSICAL HIRUKO UNGA BUNGA PHYSICAL WHIP ME MOMMY
>>536752036>played SMT 2 before Years ago >excited to play Eeeeh, I’m not so ready to go through Masakados’ steel ball run again>tips/secrets Recruit humans. Doesn’t matter how you do it or how much macca you throw, but recruit at least three then start save scum fusing. You’ll get a Metatron soon enough >opening It’s great >alignment I will just answer or do anything that I would do rather than go for a route
>>536752357We've got a rumored Nintendo direct and Tokyo game show next month so let's hope for the best.
>>536752438Hiroko is a woman who may have become a mother to me
>>536753340Dagda being voiced by Ikeda is actually hilarious.
>>536753327Do people really think there is a going to be another nintendo direct in September after all the mini directs there have been?
>>536753584Yes? There's usually a September Direct and Metroid Prime 4 still needs a release date for this year.
>>536753340based Red Comet poster
what did smt IV apocolypse retcon? I see so many people say it but nobody actually says what it is
>>536755445They retcon Nozomi being likeable
>>536755445
>>536755445For me it's that it focused on none of the cool-but-underutilized stuff in IV, opting instead for focusing on character-building for retard party members no one gives a shit about.
>>536755445There's a side-quest with Dagda's daughter in IV that is never mentioned in IVA.
>>536756153I liked Asahi.>>536755541meh she was just there>>536755625alternate universe? haha
>>536753340When will we get a lalah sune heroine?
>>536756770Beth
>>536752036Joining again as Evening>have you played smt 2 before?Nope>excited to play it now?Yeah, I look forward to seeing where things went after 1>any tips/secrets to share?Nope>what do you think of smt 2's opening?Haven't started yet>what alignment route are you going for?I said I'd wing it for 4 and I ended up going neutral, but this time I think I'll actually do it. See where it takes me.Also, a question: which version should I play? I did PS1 for the first game, and I saw >>536498154 mention that he's translating that version, so would it be best to wait for that?
>>536756770>Lalah Sune if she pokegirl
>>536757635>smt 2 ps1 translationi thought that anon was just being ironic.
I've only done Chaos Ending in SMT IV and I was expecting SMT IV A to take place at 70% point in the game. But fuck lol nobody told me it literally took place 95% of the way there. Neutral in SMT IV sucks man you just grab Masakado and his sword, beat the shit out of Lucifer and Merkabah, game over that's it :Dwow now I get people's hate with SMT IV. I thought it was going to be a lot more expansive.
Kazuma Kaneko is
>>536756770Lalah is in SMT 1.
>>536764009my fuarking hero
>>536763980It was supposed to be more expensive. The game only utilizes half the script prepared for it. Which is why so many plot elements and characters are introduced only to get dropped immediately afterward.
I genuinely wonder if the original kaneko version of the script would have addressed that the neutral ending was gonna lead to tragedy very soon. The final game barely addresses the demonic gene but it IS still canon as the reason why the mikado citizens can turn into demons just by reading literature. And the rules of that gene dictate it will autoactivate when theres no archangel present for an extended period of time according to the canon extra material (and apocalypse itself in that one DLC mission. For all of apocalypse's bullshit and retcons, thats actually not one of them). So like an unknown number of days after the neutral ending all those mikado people who came down are basically gonna chest burst into demons What a mess
>>536764009
>>536767981to the flower fields
>>536766480That seems like an even dumber plot line than the already mess of a neutral ending. It's only right for them to ignore that shit.
>>536770603They may have not referenced the consequences in the ending itself, but its still 100% going to happen. Its kind of "if a tree falls in the woods and nobody is around to see it did it really fall" thing. Apocalypse even reinforces that its 100% canon and not just a left behind plotpoint
>>536766480>>536771238The truth is Yamai is not a competent director or scenario writer.
Its the type of thing that once you learn you realise it explains a ton of little details in the game. Its the reason mastema let gabby go instead of sealing her too along with the other 3, because if there were NO archangels in mikado all the humans there would go poof and he didn't want that. The stuff about the demonic gene and the info that gabby was responsible for introducing the DSP in this timeline makes the whole gods rigged game shit a whole lot clearer
>>536772351Yamai wrote SJ's scenario and directed your favourite SMTs. "Yamai bad" got stale in 2022.
>>536773462Kaneko and Isogai played a larger in role in SJ's scenario (I also don't think its the best scenario in Megaten anyway). His 'best' game was Raidou 2, which came after the absolute dumpsterfire of the first's gameplay. Hashino directed Nocturne, Yamai is in charge of the tacked on Maniax content. Why are the Fiends not balanced around the game? Why did TDE override everything else? Because Yamai is bad at directing.
Yamai badIshida good
>>536774503I'm the Yamai guy but Ishida might actually be worse
>>536774646>might
>>536767981
I want to fuck Asahi, then run around tokyo with her as my heroine while stopping Krishna and Nanashi
>>536774871I was being nice but fine, he is. SJR was an abortion.
>>536775001>then run around tokyo with hertaking your dog for a walk
>>536775202I hate you. That was too good. Fuck you
>>536775475I try not really
okay you talk about asahi but i don't see much commision work for her. so i don't think you really like her
>>536778307feet
>>536776209https://files.catbox.moe/0016ds.jpeg2D Animation in the works for her so be patient
going through smt1 rnwhat are some demons worth recruiting in ginza?also should i upgrade the heroin's M16 Rifle to a SPAS-12?btw loved the alice subplot at roppongi.i did my research and learned that irl roppongi was known for having lots of foreigners so i wonder if alice and her two butlers were supposed to reflect that, but it's probably a coincidence
I gotta be honestI love heroinesBut I feel absolutely nothing for asahiThis isn't a doi hate thing, I actually think isabeau and yoko look quite niceAsahi rouses absolutely nothing within me
>>536780759well she's basically a kid
>>536780759You don't have to find every single female character out there hot.personally I'm not into MegaTen women except for a few lady demons.
>>536781462The thing is I genuinely love like 97% of them so not feeling ANYTHING about her makes her conspicuous. Like the only other heroine I feel nothing about is the bitch from ronde because the art is so horrendousAlso maybe a few last bible girls don't resonateI played 3 of those games (1,2 special) and I can only remember 2 human character designs total from the entire series, the cowboy and the girl who looks like a chinese offbrand version of celes chere from FF6
>>536782002cute reiho
>tfw when no law gf
>that tfw no dark-law gf
>>536779752nice
After replaying smt1 I see how much overlap there is with V. The relationship between the protag and heroine is very similar to Aogami and V's MC.>their souls are connected (so much so the heroine is referred as the protag's "other self")>innate desire to protect each other>Adam and Eve symbolism>memory loss but remembering the protag despite thatI would say reincarnation plays a part as well between the two because it's a bond down to their very souls even though that was something that only happened in 1. It's implied that in V's world lore they would still be connected in death. It almost feels like this overlap was intentional.And when you take a look at Tao and Yoko in combination with this you can feel an even heavier smt1 influence. I remember in the Kai to Yuu magazine interview Doi and Komori did after VV came out, they mentioned that older players since would find something reminiscent about Tao and Yoko:>Originally Tao was designed as a character meant to counter Yoko. For those who are long time fans of the series, the meaning behind this design should be one of the more obvious elements.Tao and Yoko go back to the traditional blue messian vs red gaian colors of smt1. And you as the protag are the one that keeps them together despite their polarizing views. tl;dr:VV might as well be ripping off smt1 as much as IV did imo. And they did it on purpose.
>>536783490Oh and I remembered something else right after making this post. They even added that Alice quest into VV too which was an obvious call back to 1 as well, just minus Mr. Red and Mr. Black. They added that into her special though. And on top of that Komori was talking about how much he loves smt1 in that same interview.
>>536783490Gayschizoanon...
>>536752357>Likely IV.It's P4R
How would (You) remake SMT1, 2 or If...?
>>536784750I wouldn't.
>>536784469I got the idea from Japanese Dx2 whales first actually. And then realized they probably have a point after replaying 1. It's more than just this memory loss that feels like a callback. Admittedly almost every game does some kind of call back to smt 1, it just feels like VV is trying much harder. Now that I think about it, Walker and Johnathan aren't too much like the chaos hero and law hero in a lot of ways as much as people said IV is kind of just a rip off of 1. The fact they both kind of start out as black slate Samurai that don't understand the world until they finally see Tokyo isn't like 1 at all.
>>536784853I feel I should point out Heroine remembers MC because of their shin megami reincarnation. Aogami remembers the MC because Lucifer programed him to
>>536784750Like EO HD, full voice acting from the Sega CD version but some cool added stuff like the military using black demonicas and shit.
>>536785084>Aogami remembers the MC because Lucifer programed him toWhy do some people believe this though? Doesn't that ruin Aogami's character arc where he realizes his design to protect the protagonist came from him?
>>536784750I would just port the PS1 versions and add the visionary items
>>536779998>what are some demons worth recruiting in ginza?Demons are very much meatshield and buffbots in that game, focus on getting elemental for sword fusion.>also should i upgrade the heroin's M16 Rifle to a SPAS-12?Buy the AoE guns, there's no boss hard enough to justify using the single target ones.
>>536773462Yamai only wrote the tutorial part of SJ and made tiny edits to them, there are posts in the original SJ blog in which he says so. I like him as a director, I like raidou games and IV and lots of his ideas are originally Kaneko's anyways.
>>536783490>Yoko mad at being bullied, wants revenge and desires power in order to take it>Tao obsessed with saving a girl she cares about and it's her main motivationVV might be a worse rip off of 1 than IV maybe.
>>536785970Holy shit really? The tutorials are some of the worst parts of the game. God it really does all go back to him.
We'll never have a game do something wholly original again.
>>536786351Originality is overrated anyway.
>>536780759I wonder if you felt nothing about her from the start of the game or did her "character arc" made you dislike hercause it's horrendous, her dad didn't have to die at all
>>536785649AoE guns? Sorry I'm not familiar with the terms. Where can sword fusion be done?
>>536786351no new sub-series unless they're persona-lite
>>536786442I still miss the original IVA concept where Nanashi was going to be an older dad and Asahi was his daughter.
>>536786604they guy they hired was just a bad writer, otherwise if you think about it the base idea of IV:A even altered isn't bad at all
>>536784853This is literally what happens with Tao. She gets lobotomized but because she believes in V she comes back to support him
>>536786604>>536786758I swear to god I must live in an alternate universe, I FUCKING LOVE SMT IV A and two kids going at it in a fucked up tokyo is kino
>>536786541Area of Effect.Guns that hit multiple targets.>Where can sword fusion be done?You need to find the Kusanagi and/or the Refined swords as they are the only sword that can be used in sword fusion.The Refined sword can be dropped from Tengu, the Kusanagi is in a chest in the Law city and is unique so take care of not selling it.
>>536786774>lobotomizedYou're describing the law hero. Also the heroine was never lobotomized in 1, she died and reincarnated. It's not unreasonable to believe you have memory loss after being reincarnated. She was never a law fag even though the messians tried to make her into one.
Honestly I think you guys are exaggerating a bit. Trust me I'll shit on V all day for the tons and tons of things I don't like but VV is a lot more original for the most part, I wouldn't say a couple parallels that you can draw make it overly derivate. It took the game from an utterly dull nocturne rehash without the atmosphere or great designs and gave it a new core that stands on its own as an interesting concept. I'd say the expanding of the scope from "YHVH is the cause of all this" to the greater conflict of the snake and bull archetypes being the reason for everything and yhvh just being another in a long line of those guys abusing the system is probably the single most unique and interesting usage of mythology in any of these games since kaneko left. Saying its more derivative than SMTIV of all slop just because yoko is a vaguely chaos hero archypted character is kind of absurd. Absurd enough to the point you have me here defending VV when I usually shit on it for all the things I don't like about it.
hey alright
>>536784750they should do a remake of IV that's basically the game upscaled. since they used the IV engine to make SJR they can use that to port SJR, and then finally they should use that base to do the SNES era remakes. I'm calling it a remake because they have to do alot to make the game palatable for a general audience, like a whole redesign of levels and gameplay,
>>536786439nothing exists in a vaccuum but i do miss when devs took bigger risks. i get they can't really do that anymore though because games take longer to make and it's more expensive to do so.but this is just tired discussion at this point.
>>536786926you must be because smtiva isn't that. are you literally just at the start? it gets worse dude.
>>536787161I wasn't saying VV copying the heroine and alignment rep concept with a gender twist is bad though. Technically it did take the concept and refreshed it with a different spin. The main issue I see is spinning it in a way that panders to fujos but despite that being the case they don't seem to be cashing on it obnoxiously. And Atlus does that to death with P5 so you can see how they don't do that at all with VV. From that perspective it feels more like they are trying to actually do a homage and not just a soulless rehash. Invoking the feel of smt 1 while not copying it outright.
>>536786926>two kids going at it in a fucked up tokyo is kinoWould be nice if that was the entire game instead of some gay journey with Persona friends
HP or MP for phys attacks? Why do you feel this was phased out? Was it for the better?
>>536783435:(
>>536787740>>536787894hallujah and gaston are cool too.
>>536788590Gaston maybe but Hallelujah is horrendous.
>>536786952Thanks
>>536787131Anon. Tao doesn't literally get lobotomies, she dies and gets reincarnated.
>>536788353I prefer MP for all skills, though I would prefer it be called SP for "spirit/stamina points." Tying physical attacks to HP feels unnecessary. However, I greatly dislike the trend of making widely available STR-scaling magic attacks and the abundance of pierce for everything. I feel like the more recent games have oversimplified and killed the diversification of team building because the end result of demon fusion is usually some number of boost/pleroma skills, skills that allow piercing, and just the best-in-class attacks or buff/debuff spells. Removing HP for physical attacks was an act of simplification, but I think it was largely a good one whereas much of the other ones are not. Maybe you could make particularly strong attacks cost HP in lieu of or in addition to MP, but I think just MP is fine for the default.
https://x.com/A1C0Hol_25/status/1960434287410602089/photo/1
>>536789848Which game had the best balance of team building and variety? I might say IVA since it benefits from the huge compendium IV had while adding affinities, but it might have started the very trend you hate too.
>>536790179if you're neutral you get to fuck both
Did you guys know the fat kid from persona 1 is supposed to be the same fat kid whos in ozawa's gang? Ozawa's gang is called turtle head, which is a slang for penis in japanese, which is why his persona in P1 is a huge penis. Apparently one of the scenario writers of SMT1 just casually confirmed this like last year https://megatenwiki.com/wiki/Kenta_Yokouchihttps://megatenwiki.com/wiki/Ryūtarō_Itōhttps://x.com/seiziito/status/1793571772266323999I just saw this being pointed out, thought it was very neat
>>536791116bizarre
>>536791116weird
>>536791116strange
>>536783490Yuzuru and Dazai are also very similar to the Law Hero and the Chaos Hero respectively. In Yuzuru's case, just replace the gf with his sister.
>>536791116Unironically this is the biggest news we've gotten in 10 years
>>536791116>chaos hero was getting bullied by this fucking loser Chaosfags, explain yourselves
>>536791921it makes sense, bullies can be losers but if they have numbers on their side it won't matter to the victim.
>>536789712She never dies either. It's not reincarnation. Her goddess body walking her keeps her alive, when Tao dies she stays dead. They even say in CoC nothing of the original Tao is left. It's two souls, one body. It's very similar to how when the law hero dies saving you from being killed his entire personality is rewritten.
>>536791921chaosfags are laughing stock and always have been
>>536791116I miss when SMT, DevSum and Persona were loosely connected. Nowadays it's like they just don't give a shitI want 50 year old devil summoner Tamaki in Persona 6
>>536788353>Phased outDoesn't Persona still use HP?>Was it for the better?I think it depends on the game, I hope they go back to HP from time to time
>>536790429Man, that's a really hard question because I don't think any single game has the exact balance of features I want for demon fusion and team building. I think more than the presence of boosting passives I dislike how many of the later games add really powerful but specific traits that strongly encourage you to build certain demons a specific way Persona 5 Royal and SMTV are probably most guilty of this even if the concept of demons having unique passives isn't necessarily a bad one. Strange Journey has a mostly great compendium that has a few lulls depending on level, but inheritance is a crapshoot and I despise how demon sources work. IVA, as you mention, implemented affinities well enough to encourage diversification and specialization, but it really did solidify some of my least favorite aspects of demon building. Devil Survivor is great for personalizing your demons and making it feel like they all have a role in the party due to how racial skills work, but the compendium is on the smaller side, but it has a good roster. I want to saw it might be Nocturne, but Nocturne has its weirdness with magic attack scaling making it so that you end up largely defaulting to physical or physical-adjacent skills and pierce in TDE. Weirdly less of an issue in OG Nocturne, but it probably still goes to Nocturne all the same. I think it also depends on where you stand on demons leveling up vs. being largely disposable as temporary party members you fuse away frequently. Soul Hackers has some cool stuff going on, but you never really end up hanging onto your demons for long and are mostly just running with MC, Nemissa, and Zeed for most things. I think demon personalities are a cool mechanic though, and I'd like to see them tackle it again in the future.
>>536789848Meh
megaten1 filtered me hardi don't understand how it's humanly possible to finish this game without cheatingon the other hand the ost is unforgettable https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jGYj4SeC9fw
>>536793027Finding out about Tamaki's past after playing Persona 2 and going down the rabbit hole of untranslated games was probably part of what set me on my current interest in the wider scope of SMT spin-offs.
>>536791116Oh fuck it's that guy. I never see his posts enough. Last time I checked his twitter he made a post about Aogami and Vkun kissing on the bench and some retarded persona fag called him a pedo and he told them to shut the fuck up. https://x.com/seiziito/status/1820446334580830288
>>536785450True
>>536793027I always did like how Persona 2 was kind of a crossover point for all of them
I really don't understand why they stopped maintaining smt continuity in the nusona games. Call me if a brainlet if theres something obvious I'm not getting, but if a branch of the series started exploding in popularity and overshadowing the other parts, wouldn't you WANT to have it continuing to make clear connections to the other stuff in hopes it sparks some sort of interest and funnels the fans down into the rest of the branches? I'm not talking references to the extent of distracting from the games own story, but for example the old velvet characters still being NPCs in the velvet room and shit like that.
>>536791585Honestly, they don't over lap that much. Dazai was never bullied or out for revenge because of it and Yuzuru never changes his directive of protecting Tokyo, if anything he pushes his sister aside while she's still alive to pursue it. Yes Dazai was an outcast but he was never treated like absolute dogshit like the chaos hero was. In Yuzuru's case, he does feel the call of duty to run off and save people but inevitably it becomes clear he starts doing this just to ass kiss Koshimizu which Miyazu even say she's worried about thinking Koshimizu is taking advantage of her brother.
>>536794589Persona shedding itself of its SMT roots is, sadly, the reason it could get so big.
>>536785205>Why?My guess is because Lucifer is the reason Aogami looks for Vkun to begin with. Whether it was happenstance or more Lucifer meddling for that specific model to be saved when the rest became husks is unknown.>>536788353Part of me liked HP phys attacks but that's also because I do like the idea of blood-magic mechanics. Yes I seethe that Blood Ritual sucks turbo dick in IV. Its probably better to make them MP due to how strong they could become for general playthroughs when a stock demon's Dia = more damage than many Agis.>>536789848>Pierce hatingWhat if pierce only pierced passives? Meaning an innate Ice Repel still blocks the attack but not an Ice Repel passive.
Would it be accurate to say that SMT2 Michael, Uriel and Raphael have become fallen angels since they're actively subverting the will of god in some misguided effort to fulfil it? They even essentially create a false idol to worship in the form of fake YHVH
>>536789848>I feel like the more recent games have oversimplified and killed the diversification of team building because the end result of demon fusion is usually some number of boost/pleroma skills, skills that allow piercing, and just the best-in-class attacks or buff/debuff spells.Raidou remaster suffer from the opposite:Every demon is a swiss knife that can do everything despite Pierce not being a thing there.
>>536796079There is no doubt Lucifer was involved but as far as I know the game describes it as Lucifer simply telling Aogami "hey look a human is in danger, go over there" and the rest was up to him. Aogami also had memory loss on top of that but the only thing that was cut out of his memory was specifically working for Bethel. If he had remembered that he probably would have remembered that becoming a Nahobino was forbidden. So that feels like it was the only thing Lucifer would want to or need to do to get Aogami to react the way he wanted.
Anybody got that image of all the megaten artists worst aspects amalgamated?
>>536799047I think you mean this one. I wouldn't say its their 'worst' aspects though - Kaneko's would be some purple naked spriteflipped bird with ugly human feet
>>536800507Higher-res if you wanted it
fellas... I'm still at the part where you try to join the ring of gaeaI'm not gonna make it am I...
>>536800507>>536800715This one's cool, but I was thinking of another one, it's a single character made of Kaneko's feet, Soejima's neck, Yasuda's tits and Doi's hair, I think so at least.
>>536800715All three look cool THOUGH
>>536792631>She never dies either.Yes. She does. She is explicitly the Megami Tensei
>>536804535Megami Tensei means dying and coming back to life, not dying and then having your dead body skin walked by someone else. That is what happened to her.
>>536804892She does come back to life bro. The only difference between Tao in Creation and Tao in Vengeance is that Yoko woke her up so she's not letting herself be a tool. There is no magic involved, ergo Tao is just as tensei'd in either route, she is just fully conscious
>>536791116isn't this Toro?
>>536805546Yep
>>536805271She did not die and her compendium says that explicitly. Her personality died and remained dead. The goddess took over instead when it awakened:>Once cherished as the Saint of Bethel, Tao Isonokami was forced to watch helplessly as a close friend perished before her eyes. At that moment, the voice of a higher being spoke unto her, awakening the goddess within.>Even after her divine transfiguration, she appears to have retained her memories. However, she has cast off her former personality, and no longer acts as she once did as a human. There is no reincarnation involved here, the goddess within her awakened and never allowed her to physically die, just the person she once was because it was useless. It's far closer to what happened to the law hero than say the heroine of smt1 who died was was physically reborn with memory loss. When the heroine returns to life she is exactly the same person she was before. When the law hero returns to life he is completely changed personality wise.Furthermore you probably forgot about this scene too:https://youtu.be/5Z6WU9FJ4KY?si=AVNHCZUiuGyhjcG4&t=26603Here you can see the moment when she is possessed by the goddess within her and cut off mid sentence. This scene is in CoV and CoC.In CoV part of her still remained and she says "I still feel like me". That is the difference with the original route. Instead of allowing her personality to die, she stays strong enough to survive. In this route no part of her dies at any point.
>>536795186>Honestly, they don't over lap that muchThey're not exact copies but they were absolutely inspired by them. Dazai even gets a spiky haircut the moment he turns to power and both him and the Chaos Hero are moved by the desire to stop being weak losers.Yuzuru is the less blatant of the two but he still counts as both of them in the base game are set up so that longtime fans will believe Yuzuru will side with Law while Dazai will side with Chaos due to their personalities only for the story to switch that around.
>>536811007Don't Dazai and Chaos hero also share the same ideology of power equals justice?
Dazai singlehandedly made Law cool again
>>536813081if only he was in a good game
V is good thougheverbeit
>>536813006A lot of characters think like that though and they don't act like the chaos hero anymore outside of that.
>>536813328>thougheverbeitkys zoom-zoom
V will never be good
V a shit
>>536813561>>536813716>It's le bad because it just is ok?lol ok
>>536811007>Switch that aroundThat's what makes them different. Technically you can say a lot of characters in smt are similar to chaos hero and law hero. But if you were to ask me who seems to be more directly influenced I'd say Tao and Yoko are.
>>536813828>it's le good because it was my first game ok?
>>536814023I started with IV and played Nocturne before V thoughbeitever
>>536752036Signing up as Eligor>have you played smt 2 before?No.>tipsFor any RPG of this era: Keep a notepad file for when NPCs tell you things that seem like hints and write those things down.>openingI love the eclectic feel of the setting and why won't the crash test dummy join me fuck I've tried like 7 times.>alignmentCHAOSAre people already playing or are we waiting for the sign up date to end before the start?
>>536814120you can start now
how would each protagonist react to the gay crosswalk?
Problems V has:>Level scaling is fucked to the point you deal piss-poor damage to enemies who are just a couple levels higher than you no matter what your actual stats are>Story is a rehash/carbon copy of previous titles (Seriously it's like they stopped giving a shit after vanilla Nocturne bombed)>Vanilla V just feels kind of incomplete in general>Buffs and debuffs work like in Persona (debatable even though I much prefer how it worked in previous games)VV fixed all of these
>>536814023"because newfags" isn't an argument
>>536815791yeah but it didn't fix the dogshit MC design or the annoyingly trite "dungeon" design and general traversal
>>536816348>dogshit MC designI think he's neat>the annoyingly trite "dungeon" design and general traversalFair, I think they did dungeons so well in Nocturne I don't know why they can't do it again
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AtsvVH0D2AUnew theme for michael & da boyz
>>536800792well I'm just about at blasted tokyo and I'm sure I'm not gonna make it in the 3 hours I have left, too bad :(
Could someone please post that meme with Demi-Fiend in a suit showing an open case of cash? Thanks.
>>536787161The core concept is very good but the execution is still unpolished and unfinished, like most games nowadays.
>>536818998The new season is mid outside the first episode so far.
Would AI be law-aligned?
>>536825068Dark-Neutral, just like Kaneko...
>>536787161I've been seeing people talk about the bulls and snakes theme since before VV's release and I'm not contesting that it's a thing but I've been wondering what material people based that on before the game was out? Did devs talk about it when the game was being promoted?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Si2oF1EmwQ0
>>536821138I stopped playing but fuck it I'm gonna try to make it to the white ending if I can
>>536752036Signing up as Arbatel, but actually I am towards the end of it since I was already playing it>any tips/secrets to share?Put most of your points in speed and once you get a machine gun the game is a brease>what do you think of smt 2's opening?Cool>what alignment route are you going for?Law
>>536825920Arguably the most useless route in the game despite how nice it feels in law you build a paradise for everyone to eventually inhabit as the people who died in the last world get reborn in the newIn neutral you spare the members of millennium and the underground peopleIn chaos you kill all the people in millennium, and for what? It’s not like the mutants are going to get a better life in a truly chaotic world, the midgets like that guy that asked you revive Masakado surely won’t live
>>536830132A big reason why the chaosfags have awful lives is due to the Centre suppressing and hunting them down.
>>536815626Only one of them would do anything when seeing it and it's pic related.
>>536832016Disgusting, why can't fujos jack off ans shut up?
>>536832104>ans
>will you give me a magic stone>yes>what if up it to two magic stones?>yes>what about a third?!>yes>wait you don't have ANY magic stones, that's sad here have a magic stone>negotiation let's me keep going>this time I want one magic stone>here you go>thank you, I am at your serviceThis game is cracking me up.
Hiroko loves watching her son work out. She's so proud of him.
>>536832881They are a cute couple
flopdou
where can I find Raidou Remastered's DLC's nsp files? The files posted on /vg/ months ago didn't include all of them
>>536834393It was never dumped.
>>536834649>not even pirates wanted itgrim
>>536834649Are you telling me that whoever dumped it just dumped the glasses DLC and not all the grinding ones????
>>536834921Yeah. Unless it was dumped on russian sites and never mirrored which rarely happens. I saw that someone dumped the chinese version of the dlc pack on nsw2 before it got hit by the fbi. I think that file might be lost now. That's the closest I've seen to it being uploaded in at least some format.
>>536835159So dumpers are retarded, I see...
>>536829561it's over, I didn't even make it to infernal tokyo yetam I a failure bros? getting all the way from shibuya to here in like 7 hours was pretty good at least...
>>536823890I also want to see this meme
>>536836159it's okay, bro. i didn't finish either. you can still play and have fun with it. it's not a competition. it was just a means of getting people to play together and discuss the games more in a fun way.
>>536836159I finished smt1 a week late and still posted about it. Just saying, whenever you finish, you finish. Don't let it bother you.
>>536836384>>536836463yeah I guess, I just feel bad getting so close. I feel like I could have made it to the white ending with another hour or so.
>>536752036i also wanted to say that if anyone has any poll ideas feel free to post them and i'll try to add them to event page too as long as i don't miss them. it was something i didn't really do so much past a certain point and i didn't do it at all for smt 4 barring the mandatory end date one.but if anyone would like polls again or something like that for fun i'd like to see what you come up with! i just wasn't that good at coming up with fun ones.>>536836690i'd still like to see how your playthrough goes. so keep on playing. i did occur to me that getting the white ending would be funny in this instance.
>>536836690You have to keep in mind that we're only doing this because we're in a news drought and it gives us something to post about that isn't the schizo replying to himself or recycling the same arguments over and over again. So whenever you finish just make a post and don't worry about the deadline. The whole point was to encourage posting and whether you finish on time or not you're still accomplishing the point of the event.
>>536832671Negotiation fucking sucks
Futomimi is a clay back, slab back, sgraffito sasquatch, glazed ape, dust bunny, dustjaw, tinker, bisque bitch, kiln kisser, kiln cricket, smearskin, wedger, cup scratched, slopskin, slopped face, porcelain primate, all crack no kiln, crack pot, wheel throwing, dunter, mold monkey, flux fumer, claybrain, kintsugly, smearskin, smudge monkey, wobbler, mudmute, ashling, mudshank, grogiwog, oxide orangutan, MIGGER
>>536837619I must have tried over 20 times with some of these demons. I'm pretty sure alignment isn't the issue. Others I get first try. The annoying part is the lack of feedback on if I'm pressing the right buttons or if it's rng failing over and over.
>>536838510>miggerOi this isn’t /a/
Chiaki had some SERIOUS penis envy
Why were Chiaki and Gozu-Tennoh so mean, but Vkun and Aogami so nice?
>>536838858They were probably all cute and cuddly with each other when no one was looking.
>>536838796Not as serious as Isamu's penis envy...
>>536839256>Chiaki and Gozu-Tennoh>Korean, edgy, evil, based, kill mud men on sight, death to incels>Vkun and Aogami>Japanese (lame), gay, too busy having sex to kill mud men, Vkun was probably an incel before AogamiVerdict? Gozu >>>>>> POWER GAP >>>> Baal (sounds like nut sack) > Susano-o (Susan is in the name, no WONDER he's gay)
>>536838510based
Total Chaosfag Death
CHINESE JACK FRST. GLORY TO CCP!
>>536851705ni hee-hao
What should I play if I enjoyed Strange Journey? IV, Nocturne or Vengeance?
>>536853365What did you exactly enjoy about SJ?
>>536853365IV has some direct references to SJ and they share the majority of the compendiumVengeance has a similar demon sourceNocturne is easily the most different. If you haven't already I would look into Soul Hackers
>>536854542Mermaid... ToT
>>536831327 I know, but if you have seen the chaos ending for SMT 1 you would know why chaos isn’t a good outcome for the mutants you feel sorry for either, and it’s stated over and over across the two games that chaosfags would do the exact same thing in a position of power
dx2 is getting chefei's final form added as the fnal addition for the 7.5th anniversarywith that in mind, who is your most-wanted-never-ever-translated-to-3d design?
>>536865758Gargantua Zero. If we're counting non-demons as well then a lot of the Persona 1 and 2 designs.
>>536694261Songs that give an early SMT vibe https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hsSFR43Z600&pp=0gcJCf8Ao7VqN5tD
>>536853365lV has direct references to SJ with the Ring of Gaia.>>536861197Another point is they have nobody else under them to oppress by that point outside the humans.
every copy of jack bros is personalized
V sucks lol
>>536870621No, it REALLY sucks
>>536870621V is the best game
>>536853365Vengeance is the most similar to SJ since they're both stealth Etrian Odyssey games.
V is mainly about gay men, that's how you know it's good.
Doi said Susano-o is the sea itself and also said the Tsukuyomi form looks like a skeleton.He said this over a year ago in that magazine but he also refused to go into any more detail. He said sorry spoilers and "I'm looking forward to the opportunity to talk about it in detail!" and it's been over a year. Over a year.
>>536838524Pretty sure higher int makes negotiations work more often.Might be anecdotal bias but in my later playthroughs of 1/2 I pumped int early and had a much easier time with it. Combat isn't hard enough that you need to go nuts with str from the word go(especially cause the weapon you use contributes so much of your damage on it's own) so I'd recommend putting some points in it.
>>536873293The new VV DLC will explain everything. Please to be patient.
>>536873293I think you can chalk the skeletal elements of the tsukuyomi form up to the same reason it doesn't have the long hair symbolising divine power. Its a nahobino not born of the actual demons knowledge as found in their soulmate, more a weird jury rigging of a different knowledge only possible through human made fusion tech
Ahem... *taps mic xD* hello, hello? Yes... test test...Kissies to Raidou ^3^
>>536873825I know it's meant to invoke the feeling of sadness, anger etc but of all the theory posts about the design I saw from others, no one ever said it looked like a skeleton and apparently it is one. You don't just drop that in an interview and run. That's so fucking irritating.
>>536873293He talks about it looking like a skeleton but what about its bdsm elements? I found that shit kind of distracting and edgy
>>536874268Just the ass being out isn't bdsm, it's also a shinobi thing.
>>536873415In SMT 2 it’s really high speed for both you and the heroine + guns that hit all targets + nerve bullets that break the game Enemies can’t literally do fucking shit
I don't know why so many people hate this design
>>536878771It's not a bad design on it's own but it doesn't exactly scream 'Lucifer.'
>>536878893Lucifer is from Venus in Roman mythology.
>>536879002Yes and?It doesn't scream Venus either, if anything, it confirm that it's a shitty design.
>>536878771>did you know Lucifer might be an ayy lmaoYes and I didn't want him to be one anyway.
>>536878771He would have been great doing disco moves for SMT 4 all night dancing
>>536878771Why did he blackface himself and choose to constantly sit down in Apocalypse?
>>536880660he spent all day at the beach getting a tan so he was all tuckered out
>>536880660he stole that throne
>>536880660>mwahahaha! merkabah, you may be a chariot, but I own a chair!
>>536880660Black people aren't liked in Japan.
bring back checkman
>>536880660>nope, not getting out of this throne
>>536883912STUPID DOG, YOU GAVE ME A BONER
Which SMT game has the best memes?
>>536884784apocalypse
>>536807026Just pointing out that this discussion started because you were awkwardly trying to say Aogami is a reference to the heroine on the loosest detail but now you have to say technically Tao isn't a reference to the heroine because it isn't exactly like SMT1. That's bogus, you're arguments are biased as fuck.
>>536885341Actually I was saying Aogami is almost exact, not a loose technicality at all. You can even say he is a reincarnation due to being Susano-o at one time, dying in the war, and coming back as Aogami which is the new lore they dropped about him in Vengeance. Tao never dies in CoV and in CoC she dies an ego death and never revives. It's more than just the title though and even the memory loss between Aogami and the heroine, even their souls are connected. The soul hacker you rescue from Ozawa in the basement will remark that the protag's soul is in danger because the other half of his soul is in peril. The conversation reads like something taken out of V, that's how eerily similar it is.
>>536886080Aogami doesn't die in the war anon, you see him get kidnapped by Lucifer, on screen in the flashback.
>>536886080>Tao never dies in CoVShe completely dissolves into magatushi after lilith kills her and sahori, in what way can you say this isn't a death
>>536886080Tao dies in both games, she's pierced by Lahmu in CoC and pierced by Lilith in CoV.
>>536886080
>>536886080Why did I come back to 4 replies? What I said wasn't even that ground breaking. I even posting the same screenshot about the brain jacker before and no one cared lol.
>>536887257You got replies because you said the groundbreakingly retarded statement tao never dies as if they don't literally turn to the camera and say "TAO ISONOKAMI DIED" in both routes
>character turns to the screen and says "I WAS KILLED BUT REVIVED AS A GODDESS">n-no its NOT an obvious on the nose reference to the titleFor all the ways you're able to read the deepest epic subtext its funny that when it comes to the actual obvious not even remotely subtle text your brain turns shuts off completelyShe literally uses the word tensei in the japanese version btw, you can hear it in the audio trackhttps://youtu.be/FmNP6-eSe5o?t=32156
Can we go back to not talking about V?
>>536888568yes please
>>536888743Shin Megami Tensei but Family Guy
>>536886420NTA but he means Susano-o before Aogami was a thing. He died at some point and then they started mass producing Aogami units. You can hear bits and pieces about him from Sakuya, and the Kunitsu VR fight. Things like that. Susano-o didn't always have the autism he has now.
>>536888806Shin Guy Tensei
>>536888869Then by that token isn't Tao already a reincarnation of the dead Amaterasu even before she dies again?
>>536887638Anon, the goddess inside her insta healed her every time she took a fatal shot. And when her ego died it stayed dead in CoC. That is literally all I have been saying. That isn't reincarnation. You keep insisting it is, I don't know why. Why does it bother you that the law hero did this exact same thing in smt1? Died saving you and came back reborn with a new personality. Let's call him the megami tensei too then. I don't want to but you're getting so bent out of shape about a comparison that fits her better than the smt1 heroine.
>>536889460>That isn't reincarnationAre you mentally deficient, what part about tao isonokami literally saying she tensei'd with a capital T in the game script in japanese isn't piercing your thick skull
>>536889460Fujoheadcanon is a hell of a drug.
>>536889460Damn Vfags really are retards
>>536889460>Died saving you and came back reborn with a new personality. Let's call him the megami tensei too then.No faggot, thats YOU. YOU'RE the one who thinks XY male characters are heroines and goddesses. We don't. Its you.
>>536889412I don't think that's how the knowledge thing worked.
>>536891871Sick SMT reference
How does it feel to be in a tin can as a demon?
>>536884391Time for correction
I did not think I would trigger this much of a sperg out on multiple people, sorry about that.Let me refocus what I'm saying here back to where this started:>Aogami references the smt1 heroine>no Tao references her more>why?>she dies and comes back to lifeAnd I'm surprised that was enough evidence for someone to say "megami tensei means she is the one referencing the first heroine, not anyone else". Yumiko is always going to be the first actual megami tensei. Think about it this way, is the original heroine of smt1 actually a goddess or just a woman of importance? And I'm not saying this to imply she's not the megami tensei, she just doesn't fit the title exactly despite fitting the role. It's not entirely accurate because she's not a goddess. If she is Eve and not just referencing it, that means she was always human. SMT2 and 3 have the same problem, you can't really tell who it's supposed to be exactly. Tao also doesn't follow this exactly either. She uses reincarnation in Japanese but Tao herself still dies in the original route, her soul is reborn but her ego still dies. In CoV her ego never dies.Also I think the point I'm actually trying to make here is that Aogami does more to make him fit, I listed it before but>memory loss, but remembers the protag>sacrifices himself but revives later>one half soul of the protag>desire to protag their partner right from the startThis is what makes him a reference. Hopefully this makes more sense and doesn't make anons spam screenshots at me.
>>536893806That sure is a lot of nonsense to try and swerve around the fact you said tao didn't die and didn't revive and wasn't a megami tensei multiple times despite it being explicitly said in the game script. I really dislike people who can't just be honest with their mistakes, you've wrote this massive wall of text just to get around saying "I was wrong about tao my bad bros!" Its why you'll always be a faggot, it has nothing to do with liking gay characters.
>>536866060>then a lot of the Persona 1 and 2 designsThis. There are a ton of alternative designs present in those games that look really good but sadly don't have any larger art. Persona 1's Mot is really neat.
>>536894440You also just decided to ignore what I said. Actually I still stand by my original statement. Despite using reincarnation in her speech Tao's ego still dies and doesn't revive or doesn't die at all. This is the difference that matters. My original point is that this all matches with what happens to the law hero more closely. Dying after saving you, and being reborn with a personality change instantly is what happened to him. The original heroine dies, 30 years pass, and is reborn the same person she was but with memory loss.
>>536893806Anon…
I prefer Hero with Yuriko personally
>>536854542I want to lick her face.
>>536896834You wanna know why i ignored what you said? Because it quite literally isn't what happened, your reality warping powers are activating again. I might as well be trying to have an argument with someone in a padded cell.>And I'm surprised that was enough evidence for someone to say "megami tensei means she is the one referencing the first heroine, not anyone else"At no point in this thread did anybody say this, this was an arguement conjured by your own projection of the situation.The arguments being made in this thread are that "tao is the megami tensei and she references the heroine" Nobody in this thread has said aogami ISN'T a reference to the heroione at any point. You are the one trying to claim the "referencing the heroine" spot is a secular thing only belonging to one character, and you're projecting that onto everyone you're discussing with. Which is again, why you are a capital F faggot. The rest of what you said is irrelevant nonsense and just more flagrantly ignoring the games own explicit text because it doesn't align with your fetishistic need for aogami to have ALL the heroine symbolism and for no other characters to have any.
You guys probably get asked this a lot, but I never played V and just picked up Vengeance, should I do the new story stuff or the original for my first playthrough. I don't know much of what happens other than the usual killing all your friends.
>>536900426Are you planning on replaying the game no matter what?>YesDo CoC first.>NoDo CoV first, more bang for your buck.
>>536900426Do you care about NG+ content? If you just want the best experience out of the gate and don't plan on replaying, do CoV. If you want to get the full story, suffer through CoC then do the good campaign second.
>>536900426CoV is better but it was designed with you having played CoC already so some plot elements and important concepts from CoC are glossed over in CoV. Btw CoC benefits from CoV knowledge as well so it's not like an obvious path forward. If you only do one, do CoV.
>>536900643>>536900880>>536903471Thanks, I guess I'll go with the original story first then.
>>536903792I would recommend just doing CoV because the open world elements of the game make replaying it suck ass
Modern SMT need not be so gay.
>>536905282You can breeze through the game in a few hours on NG+
>>536752036I'm gonna join the SMT2 event but I have a question, does anyone know how the diamond realm works?I've played it before and still have that original file, and I hear you can access the DA "after you beat the game". But I have literally no idea what EXACTLY that means because this game doesn't have a newgame+ feature or even let you save after beating it. Like the last save point is quite a bit before you actually finish. The wikis offer no greater information and neither does google Do I need to like, replay the final boss and get the ending, make a new file while the game is still running and make sure to save it before the game ever turns off??If I'm replaying it I want to make sure I get it since its something new
>>536741508because vibecoding is a meme. you still need programming knowledge to do it properly.
>>536748548nocturne is a 3d tilebase game. they can do that if they want, they just don't want to risk it.
>>536908653>Even japanese guides just say "you can go there after beating the game if you talk to an npc!" with no further elaborationI'm going to have to assume theres just some hidden flag that gets permentantly activated on your cartridge once you beat the game independent of saving that's not indicated anywhere visually, and if thats not the case and I miss out on it I'm gonna be seething later
>>536893806>I did not think I would trigger this much of a sperg out on multiple people, sorry about thatto me it looks like it's just that one anon obsessed with homos and fujoshi especially since he gets extremely aggressive about this innocuous shit.personally i wouldn't say aogami is a heroine. inspired by the deal with amaterasu and other reincarnated gods we have in the series? sure, but conceived as a heroine? they would have made it far more obvious if he were heroine but male, like how they made it far more obvious that the game has alignment reps and an exaggerated law/neutral/chaos conflict.while SMTVV is extremely derivative and methodic i don't think they went out of their way to make a male equivalent of a heroine, it's just similarities born from the same hodgepodge of ideas.
>>536913969I actually don't really have a problem with homos, most of the fandoms I'm in have some sort of fujo presence and they range from inoffensive to pillars of the community in the case of gundam. I just think aogami fujos in particular are rancid, hes not an interesting or cool enough character to warrant the levels of obsession and attempts at warping observable reality. Even koshimizu is more compelling. I aggressive at that anon because he spent hours repeatedly saying tao didn't die, didn't reincarnate, and obviously wasn't a megami tensei, and when provided with the in game text stating all three with the lack of subtly of a brick he just pretended like he never did any of that and attempted to completey curve topics to avoid addressing it entirely. I think thats massively annoying and dishonest so, yeah, I admit it pissed me off. Like I said, someone who just likes gay shit is a fag. I don't have a problem with fags. But a dishonest narcissist unable to admit any fault to the very end even after having it smacked in your face? Thats a FAGGOT. Couldn't be a more rancid type of person.
>>536913969Who are these niggas?
>>536915139I'm guessing that they're from the TTRPG.
>>536915139The Devil Survivors
>>536915045i see what you mean.i would argue both tao and yoko are based off the whole "megami tensei" deal in the series and tao even blatantly has the rising sun on her headdress to signify she is amaterasu.and as much as her consciousness stays alive in CoV, her body was still revived and later the goddess reincarnated in her. aogami is susanoo who also gets the whole reincarnation deal again, and yes he is very protective to the player character and says romantic things, but he does not have the gameplay role of the heroine and he himself feels like he has very little presence outside of psychological support. he is a power up for the protagonist and yes he can be some kind of daddy/mommy figure cause Kozuka said motherly aura blahblah but like i said, atlus would hammer it home until we're tired of it if he truly were the heroine. i get why jp players would say this jokingly or not, but in the end i don't see it.honestly, if the protagonist was meant to be female once (and thus a heroine in the typical sense of the word due to being a female protagonist) then if anything aogami was meant to be a hero ready to stand by his heroine's side.
Otacon here should really lay off the world-dooming research
Mommy
>>536920552
>>536917893Just jumping into say I thought this whole thing about about Aogami referencing the first heroine, not actually being a heroine. All heroines in most of the games do different things so there isn't really a heroine classification. Isabeau wasn't playable and didn't even megami tensei. Heroines used to be the mappa caster and that stopped. Things like that. Aogami isn't a heroine but he acts like the first one. Yoko and Tao are heroines because they are just girls in proximity to (you) so that's good enough.
Chiaki best Heroine.
Instead of throwing the word heroine around, what about partner character? In 1 the heroine is called your partner by pretty much everyone. 2 did the same with Beth and Hiroko. Not sure about IV and IVA but I can check. V used partner several times. No one has a reason to bitch about that.
>>536935754That sounds mighty dumb, partner.
>>536936009I don't have a picture of the speakers behind Chiaki that say hee haw but I wish I did.
SMT but in the Wild West
>>536936347I was working on a Wild West Megami Tensei poem during the writing event but it never came to fruition because I got a job
>>536935754Heroine and partner are pretty interchangeable. It’s just the +1 whoever or so that’s by your side/team. If you want to be technical, for Alex in SJR her ‘partner’ is George.
>>536941630Yeah I'm just saying they use the term in game for whoever your +1 most of the time anyway. And it's a non-gendered term. Just werks
>>536936347That's just Raidou thoughie
Persona but during the Shogunate, everyone is a serf
>>536618731The moment we beat Megalopolis the game's plot started having a fucking stroke.>Find Char in the room where the Master Control Program is, after a conversation where I assure him I really don't have any interest in kicking his ass he reveals himself to be an angel and tells us to go talk to Beelzebub in the Chaos world>End up in Law Land, Angels keep walking up to join our group despite the fact that I'm Chaos as fuck>Kill Satan who is apparently an angel in this universe, which actually might make sense since he seems to be a controlled opposition diet-chaos-but-actually-law in most games.>Beelzebub is actually Beelzeboobs, claims they'll hear us out if we defeat her>Instead of telling us jack shit she just dies, no cutscene, no fanfare.>Now James is suddenly just murder hobo-ing his way through the chaos shithole planet while everyone tells him what a good job he's doingI'm so fucking lost, did I miss something? I mean I know there's the tetrarchy to deal with but I thought we were specifically looking to chat with Beelz.
>>536869675If he enjoyed SJ (good taste) he would never like IV (bad taste)
FLOPDOU demaster
SMT but with ATB
Taking 5 minute trips all the way to the Valhalla slums so I don't gain a single law point healing at a messiahcuck church
>>536957741Not anymore now that I just bought it!Anyways surprised its still not discounted since I remember VV was shortly after release. I have played the original plenty of times but just in case, no missables anywhere right? I dont remember the OG having missable stuff either.Also kinda nice to have it on my own language.
>>536961696Btw why is the reveal of the culprit free DLC? Like they dont want you figuring it out?
Is Daisoujou broken in SMTVV as he is in SMT3?
>>536962159No.
>>536962459dang
SMT x SotN
>>536950936Well I kicked Michael's ass in a piss easy map, guess since we're chaos we'll just head back to Lucifer and find out what the next step i-IT'S JUST FUCKING OVER?!WHAT THE FUCK>I'm glad we stopped Michael's plan, guys. He meant well but he went too far. Guess we'll just destroy Lawtopia nowWHAT FUCKING PLANWHY ARE WE DELETING AMNESIA?!AM I THE ONE HAVING A STROKE?!WHAT ABOUT LUCIFERWHAT ABOUT BEELZEBUBWHATHOW WHYWhatever, MAJIN TENSEI 2: COMPLETEDespite the story (or perhaps just my reading comprehension) absolutely sharting itself in the final act the gameplay alone made this a load of fun, easily the best soundtrack in the series so far and it's only competition is Megami Tensei 2. It's also up there with FF Tactics for the sheer number ear candy sound effects in a TRPG. They really used Stereo to it's fullest.If I had more time I'd absolutely play this game again to get the other endings, maybe they make more sense. I think this is the first time where I didn't end up with Neutral in a game where I had options.I'm also enjoying this trend of party demons getting to say their final farewells to you in the credits.Next up is...Three more Last Bible games. Here's hoping they're better than the first two.
>>536959661>Getting tattoos to defile the temple that is my body>Using the Lord's name in vain to blaspheme as often as possible>Spitting on the church to show how little respect I have for it>Sucking dicks while crossdressing to defy God's natural order>Telling my parents God isn't real and comparing him to SantaYep, it's Chaoschad time.
Excuse me, I'm here to see Mr. Stephen?
What happened to Ronde
>>536936347hee-haw
>>536967716
>>536961817it's loredumping stuff that relates to SMT2 for the benefit of those who did not play SMT2
recarm
>fuck you for using debuffs, retard
>car demon only appears in games with no actual demon animationCriminal waste of potential
>>536980565at least there's Oboroguruma
Holy shit this is creepy as fuck.You know its kinda funny Raidou games are a little more lighthearted in general but this and the Moshibito wives fate are probably the spookiest for me.Anyways its incredible how much new stuff there is not only in gameplay but presentation with the menus and stuff.Narumi sounds too young in english, wonder if the Japanese one will sound older.For now Raidou Remaster seems promising. I know there is censorship but I already played the originals so dont mind.Though the dlc is lame as fuck. I only care about Artemis. The rest suck dick. Where is Cleo or that female demon with the guts out?
>>536983430Artemis is one of the censored demon fyi.She has a black void under her skirt.
>>536983430>censorshipIs there? Man, that sucks. I was hoping to nab it some timeLooks like I'll stick with the original
>>536980909>Oboroguruma is fought is Kurisuzaka>kurisu za ka>chris the car
>>536985252Lamia, Artemis and the Imperial Japan flag and admiral.Theres also the rewrite in the last dungeon that remove the SMT1&2 ref but I dont consider those censorship.
>>536962480Idun is VV's Daisoujou. With Sakuya being to go further beyond. That said Preach is pretty neat in VV since it rolls for three ailments. He's good for a Loa party.
>>536992618Only one of the references is removed and it's just the one directly for that decade. The line about the ICBMs being launched is still in.
>>536966658>RONDé, whatever happened there?
>>536983430>Narumi sounds too young in english, wonder if the Japanese one will sound older.He does and he is voiced by none other than Takehito Koyasu. Raidou's japanese voice actors are an all star cast.My fav voice is probably Banjo Ginga's Viktor and it cemented to me that the fusion menu must have good atmosphere and good animation.
>>537002638In retrospect VV has a pretty amazing Japanese VA cast too. You kind of forget when literal whos are casted on the english side.
>>536915139>>536915389Yep, they're the sample characters from Devil City Tokyo. Here's another version of that image that's color corrected a bit better.
>>536992618There are new quests and dialogues that directly refer to 199X even more explicitly than the original game so I don't get this complaint and when people brought it up it made me wonder if they experienced the game vicariously through twitter screenshots and youtube playthroughs.I know people complain that the identity of the demon that posseses Kaya is revealed before the showdown with it but I didn't find it out of place with the new added dialogue and information, though it makes me wonder if they feared that its identity came out of nowhere in the original. What I appreciated the most out of the new script is that they made it clear that Raido comes from the Showa era and what I didn't like was the excessive handholding, especially early on, though they make fun about it at some point. In general I actually like that the game has been made to be more in line with Raidou 2's tone and they gave the final boss the focus it deserved, in a way it was what I would have liked a possible remake to be like but there are some things still holding it down (like most demon models; I have come to hate Persona 5's HD demon models).>>537002983Yeah, SMTVV had great japanese voice acting and it helps it sell the superhero side of the story. I really liked Tao's voice too.
>>537003308Why does all the TTRPG character stuff look like the blandest mid-00s schlock anime?
>>537003828imo, it's just the changes they did make to the smt1 references don't make much sense, if it's still explicit why change anything?
>>537004207I imagine they changed things to show the timeline was getting irregular and that the Arakana corridor can show multiple futures. After all they say so explicitly at some point.
>>537004204That's a weird way to describe generic characters meant to be picked up by anyone, as a blank slate to quickly use at convention/beginner TRPG tables. They were also drawn in 2005, so good eye I suppose.Here's what the art for the sample pixie looks like.
>>537005665Out of curiosity is there a TTRPG set in the Center or in the world of 2?
>>537006310Yep, Devil City Tokyo's core book has some light details for Tokyo Millennium. But it's 2nd supplement, titled "TOKYO MILLENNIUM" has exactly what you'd want and more.https://drive.google.com/file/d/1RodDHUc6lB4DIL1B6GZ2RsvBMAxBC6VX/view
>>537005665>They were also drawn in 2005, so good eye I supposeI've beat my dick to enough mid-00s hentai to recognize that general art style era anywhere.
>>536965154>It's another TRPGNeat! Controls are a bit clunky but that's par for the course with Gameboy so whatever. I like the ability to seamlessly enter/exit a structure mid-battle instead of it being divided into two separate battles. Haaaate that it blinds you during player movement.
>>537003828>(like most demon models; I have come to hate Persona 5's HD demon models).Same here. There was a lot of effort and care put into the PS2 era models that just isn't present anymore.
SMT but limited inventory space
fucking finallyeat shit cunt
now all that's left is demiboy
>>537017046masaka...do
>>537017046Demi is easier
>>537017729I've heard as much. After all the bullshit Masakado gave me, he better be easier.
>>537018138It's more you have to do things a certain way or he instakills you
They just don't make 'em like they used to
>>537016809>rampagewatWhere's your Figment Slash?
>>537018553damn bratty law hero.....
>>537015512It's so evident in SMTVV where all the art styles converge and it reuses all the models they made so far plus more... And even putting aside the different artstyles (for example, compare Oberon, who looks like a Kaneko character, to Titania, who looks like Soejima's), it annoys me how the new models made for VV have good looking body definition, where you can see where their muscles and bones would be whether the character is muscular or not. Meanwhile, Persona 5 models basically have tube limbs and muscles that mostly just stop at textures. They not just show their age, they also are part of a featureless artstyle that does not show true physical strength or lack of thereof (not to mention the lack of sex appeal). Compare how Mermaid, a flat woman, looks far sexier and substantial than any demoness who sadly got their first HD model in Persona 5, cursed to have pool noodle limbs like picrel. It feels disrespectful to older designs to see them done so dirty, especially compared to the gacha game (though I think that one still has some duds, like the goofy orange skinned Nocturne Thor).I first noticed this with Gabriel's arms in SMTVV. It's so evident. It makes her look cheap instead of strong and she's not even supposed to be some kind of macho girl, just a normal woman. I get that this is inevitable but I dislike it. Part of me hopes that future games will do more to fix these ugly models.At least it was less evident in Raidou Remastered simply because you don't look at demons up close most of the time, but it always sucked to find a Persona 5 model and see it look even uglier than Remastered's new models, who most definitely are just souped up PS2 imports but those base PS2 models still looked better than Persona 5's.
>>537018864>Mermaid, a flat woman, looks far sexierToT...
>>537018864At least the models not ported from 5 have a lot of attention to detail and some of them are kaneko demons too.
>>537018864Yeah its honestly a shame we'll never get another sprite-based game again, because we're essentially stuck with these models forever. The Raidou remake shows very clearly that Atlus doesn't care about art direction anymore too. Everything is going to look like some variant of Persona 5 from now on.
>>537019537Yeah, basically I am complaining about Persona 5's models only. I imagine they only look good in Persona 5 but I have no idea when I'll play that.
>>537018586I'm using Pandemonic Feast
>>537019620>The Raidou remake shows very clearly that Atlus doesn't care about art direction anymore too.I think I am one of the two or four people who likes how it looks but fuck if the demon model quality being all over the place doesn't piss me off. Demons are the core part of this series after all, if they look worse they just don't give the same appeal.
>>537020350Raidou essentially is 'style over substance' the subseries and they got rid of the style entirely.
Because Doi said all the CoC endings are law and neutral, that means Yoko is the only actual chaos fag.
>>537020473But they did add substance by overhauling the gameplay and making it way better than the original. Not that they had to do a whole lot when the original didn't have much going for it when it came to the gameplay aspect.
>>537022067I don't want substance in my Raidou at the expense of its style. We can have both.
>>537021049Just like in Maniax, get the the Great Will involved and almost everything turns out to be Law... it was stupid then and it's still stupid now.
>>537021049Doi can say whatever he wants, it's very clear the 6 endings are adjacent the alligment axis. Tao-Light LawDazai-Dark LawAogami-Light NeutralYakumo-Dark NeutralAtsuta-Light ChaosYoko-Dark Chaos
>>537024846>Doi can say whatever he wants Yeah about the game he made... which you didn't make.... but think your headcanon is correct anyway.......
>>537025730Glad we agreed.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VslrHik0wZ0
when will NINE be translated
>>537026398They still need to translate SIX, SEVEN and EIGHT first
>>537026537No...
Thanks for bringing me my door dash order, but could you go get it again? I'm still hungry.
>>537026398all those models, gone to waste...
>>537026398what kind of beats does Lucifuge play through his head speaker
>>537026398>>537025998clip your fingernails
>>537031829The one sentence that BTFOs NINEfags
>>537032381Warren really fucked us with that one...
>>537031663https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_jI6iAa-cC0
>>537040843oy gevalt
>>537040843surely that's lawfag music
>>537041068When you really think about it, YHVH is a chaotic god before Jesus.
>>537040843https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3h7hIvXv-cM
>>537041068I think it’s a jew money joke
>>537041973THIEF THIEF!!!
>>537043210TYRANT Barney
>>537043865What did he do?
>>537041973This is what plays over the messian tv network from tokyo tower.
>>536694261SMT 2 really is the best Christian/esoteric Christian game out there Japs unironically understand the hidden inner meaning of Christianity most than most Christians do, and when you realise it it’s undeniable that LAW is by far the best route and really the only true one http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ykJwmE6IwM
>>537056615Who is the character designer for RONDé? Has he done anything else ATLUS?
Is SH2 worth picking up?
>>537057647I had fun.
>>537057590SMT Kahn and the SMT if… adaptation
>>537057793No you didn't
Do you think he will return?
>>537060141He went to Kaneko's island
>>537057590Character designer did >>537058532, looked around but I don't think he did anything else with FatlusThe demon designer was the main artist for the Last Bible series (he made a comment on his site wishing Ronde was better recieved)
>>537060141Maybe, we have an entire multiverse so the chances of him coming back aren't zero.
What can be said about SMTIV: Apocalypse? I’m not sure if my meager words can ever provide this game the sufficient praise that it deserves for being quite possibly the greatest game of 2016 and perhaps the all-time best game ever created in all of humankind’s history. Indeed, it is as if all of human evolution, all forms of human invention, and all of humanity’s lengthy history of entertainment was a prerequisite for greatest video game to ever be created. In the future, I’m sure people will look back and gape in stunned awe at the sheer magnificence of Shin Megami Tensei IV: Apocalypse. The all-time best sequel game and best duology to ever exist thus far in video game history. I kid you not, it is by far the greatest plotlines to ever exist, but requires actual knowledge of its philosophical and religious underpinnings to fully appreciate.
>>537053728>Christianity: :|>Christianity, Japan: HOLY ONIONS THIS IS AWESOME
>>537062959>Christianity: holy shit>Christianity, Japan: hory shittu
Christianity is cool.
>>537063987But reddit says it's the most evil and repressive religion ever
Here /smtg/, for you.
>>537064152reddit?
>>537064152it is, that's why it's cool
>>537065727How is it more evil than Islam?
>>537065984not haram my brother... don't call islam evil.
Is it sucking on his penis?
>>537066421His need to go blond after his best friend dumped him is more concerning...
>>537065984all religion is evil, that's why it's good
>>537066665>Gets rejected from his friend by a blonde witch>Gets long blonde hairWhat did he mean by this?
>>537066681>all religion is evilcringe and Persona-pilled
>>537062959Bot>>537053728>Japs unironically understand the hidden inner meaning of Christianity most than most Christians do,Retard
What is this nigga's name again?
>>537066421It’s pumping the semen back directly into his rectum
>>537067743High level semen retention, something for us all to aspire to
>>537067490I'm just tired of people trying to make up stuff about christianity to feel special, sorry bro
>>537066421>Lipstick>Pipes from his penis going into his ass>Stirrup Legging armor>Blonde hair like the witchThe original design is more badass with the proportions looking more like a traditional manga hero from cheap shonen anime, but doesn't have details with the hair and the lips. The hair isn't the same color as the witch's in the NES version. Kind of questionable why Kaneko wanted to add those choices. KMT was the point where he was using the black lip and it's not there with Dark Hero's second form.
>>537068836>isn't the same colorThat still looks blonde.
>>537068836HnK looking mofo
>>537006607Appreciate it. I will use this to write my SMT fanfic
playing smt iva and why didn't the divine powers just not act like a prick? couldn't they have achieved their goals significantly easier?
>>537072986Deities are usually arrogant retards
To this day, I still can't believe she got away with this....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5HDAAw-rDtI
>>537074194What was her fucking problem?
>>537080087Jealous ex-wife, many such cases
kanyeko
>>537081847Kaneiko
anyone have an smt problem where you're just pretty much having the same demon but different stats? like damn it really feels like a dang dice roll on which element I get first and that ends up being my magic demon for a long ass time. so I'll have like one electricmon from start until the end because I got lucky and got ziodyne or something early. usually my teams just end up full physical though if I don't get lucky on skill mutation just because unga bunga physical skills ftw. It's happened in Nocturne, most of the Persona games, IV (ESPECIALLY IV), IVA, V, shit even though it's not really the case because of how the fusion system works, SJ also had me fusing similar demons over and over again.
>>537083870I end up with drain type demons in most SMT games I play now that allow it, or I focus on fire skills. It happens. I think VV did help with making demons more unique, either more is changed with the fusion system to keep demon's uniqueness with resistances/stats or there would be the amount of unique skills that a game like Digimon Cyber Sleuth has where even the worst shitter has unique attacks tied to them that can't be transferred. After a while demons become resistances than how cool they look. I don't know how to change it where that never becomes the case since removing passives for resistances makes it worse as demons become too unique. V/V also had the lVA affinities which helped a little. It's a fusion problem that there is no real answer to without being overly drastic. I feel sMT is in the right direction with what they are doing with it but it needs something
How do I pirate the PC version of VV? I shan't be paying a single cent to Atlus no longer.
>>537091438Switch emulation of the nsp
>>537091476For a minute I thought that I was Vkun, lmao.
>>537091476giwtwm
>>537091476IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN ME
SMT 2 spoilerI just spent 20k macca on gear for that bitch right before the fight reeeee
Deplorable.
>>537070393
>>536694261Bump
mabumprasagedyne
>>537100337Even if you are succeeding in the fight, where her being alive means you can finish him off, she still sacrifices herself anyways. It legit made be think of Beth in a different light, and her side quest of freeing her soul.
Does SMT fanbase have a problem with THE "unofficial opinion" IS LAW? I've been trying to find discussion of some games I'm playing and it's ALWAYS either GREATEST THING OF ALL TIME (cough cough we know which SMT game is this) or FUCKING TRASH (we all know which SMT game is this)
>>537125753maybe but I simply don't give a shit and I'll like and dislike what I want
>>537126065it sucks like getting a reading hobby because you can't talk about it online at all though.
https://x.com/RetroTranslator/status/1961407510797279373he's back
>>537125753I like the dislike what I want, you can't talk about certain games objectively due to the controversies behind them. This is mainly with VV and lVA. You can say "Nocturne is easy as shit once you deal with speed buffs and fog breath" but many hardcore nocturne fans have played on hard with the randomizer on hardtype will step in saying they were anally raped when doing a low level run.
>>537126406*deadnames you*
>>537126406Nice
>>537126534I think my biggest issue is people look at Nocturne as the golden standard like the quintessential SMT game....when it's the black sheep of the series. I did love it but it's funny how people got mad at IGN at comparing SMT V to Persona when every stupid megaten fucker compares EVERY SMT game to Nocturne.
>>537127056Nocturne has some of the best camera direction. It's not hard to see why most people love it with all of the care and detail put into it. Personally, I like the cyberpunk aesthetics of the 90s more than desert.>IGN at comparing SMT V to Persona when every stupid megaten fucker compares EVERY SMT game to Nocturne.It's due to memes saying SMT is "hardcore Persona" and Nocturne being the first game for most people. The IGN review was the most unbiased review ripping into the game's flaws which everybody else had V as their first game in the series. Most people here had the same opinion as IGN's review of base V after a month.
>>537127056>>537127676It's because the IGN reviewer was a troon
>>537127056Yeah, I get it. Nocturne is my favorite game in the series, hell, it's probably my favorite game I ever played, but I understand that it is not a *standard* SMT since the parts I love it the most are the ones where it breaks tradition.
>Nocturne is...LE GOOD?
>>537128631the topic isn't about nocturne's qualityit's I FUCKING HATE SMT NORMIES GET THE FUCK OUT YOU FUCKING POSERS REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>537019620>Yeah its honestly a shame we'll never get another sprite-based game againAtlus will never.Just play fan games for that.
>>537125753You WILL shill Nocturne and DS1You WILL repost 20 year old memes for Reddit goldYou WILL hate every game made after 2005You WILL NOT play the remastersYou WILL NOT complain about the stale Law/Chaos storylinesYou WILL NOT criticize Kaneko's worst demon designs
>>537119435Tripfagion
>>537130662Altus West employees still post here?
>>537091438Apparently the demo bypass still works.
idk is it just me or are pirates starting to get significantly more annoying on /v/ and /vg/? I get the price of games are getting astronomically high but the amount of "IM PIRATING IM PIRATING IM PiRATTINGNGG" is getting so freaking annoying lol
>>537132516Foul Glowie
>>537132516Vile Shlomo
How about I rape your Heroine and make you watch? How would you feel about that, bitch boy?
idk is it just me or does anyone else want to firebomb Atlus's office lol
>>537132747what if Griffith was SMT>>537132804do it faggot
This releasedhttps://store.steampowered.com/app/3713410/GMODE/I won't get it until an English patch, but it looks fun.
>>537132516Vermin Buyfag
>>537133192>english patchSo you're never getting it then
>>537133279The P1 Gmode game got a fan English patch and I had a fun time with that
>>537133413That was Persona.
>>537134937It's been a year since they released a new patch, but there are people willing to do them. Possibly. I don't know Japanese, but I do know they are running on Unity which makes patching easier.https://github.com/MKCAMK/G-MODE-Archives-translations
>>537133192Which one is this
>>537074194Lol the reason nobody posts this anymore is that it was debunked. She was talking to Tsukuyomi.
>>537133192Is this game finished in under five hours?
>>537135380The one where Lilith is your Heroine.>>537136230most gmode games are
>>537136275>The one where Lilith is your HeroineTell me more...
>>537136838
When am I suppose to start hating SMT IV Apocolypse?
>>537137269Gay.
>>537137841When Nozomi starts talking
>>537139518That's actually not awful imoWho designed it?
>>537139518benis
>>537136838I don't know much about the game, but it has law/neutral/chaos endings, where chaos is rejecting lucifer and law is staying with him
>>537135517It's not posted all the time because it would be spam, also in Japanese she describes the love as mutual romantic love. Why are you an incest fag?
>>537132516I get you. I pirated all my life and nowdays I love pirating even more since I have a good computer, but bragging about pirating feels like purposefully painting a target on emulators so big corpos can snipe them. It's retarded and it will make corpos bolder in wanting to C&D on anything tied to emulation.It's better to stay quiet and not say anything.Look at what happened to Switch emulators: the devs got bold and kept bragging about how much better Switch games run on pc (no shit), having patreons with unlock keys and all that shit, then every retard kept commenting on official Nintendo pages how much they will pirate their next game... gamers are fucking stupid.
>>537139612Nobody knows apparently
>>537139518Why does the thumbnail remind me of SH Susano-o? Is that who it's meant to invoke?
>>537140642It's not about incest although there's certainly a siscon angle there. That entire quest is about Tsukuyomi, Kushinada-hime didn't even know who the MC was
>>537141867>there's certainly a siscon angle thereStopped reading. Absolute retard.
>>537125753Most SMT fans are contrarian modern Persona fans who get their opinion from someone else. They will claim to hate Persona but if you actually talk to them they can recite the plot and gameplay of those games by memory... they are tsundere for it.I also feel like most of them watch any game that's not III, IV or VV because they don't like gameplay without press turn or whatever's Persona's version of press turn is called. Then they will recite memes and coom to 15 years old Demifiend memes.Ftr, I personally have nothing against Persona except for Persona 4. In fact I think the performative hatred SMT "fans" have for it is obnoxious, especially when you look at the japanese fandom and have no qualms with it whether they like those games or not. I wish we had more genuine SMT fans like in Japan, without performative edginess or pretenses that these games are anything more than fun JRPGs with cool setting and monsters.
>>537136230>>537136275>Is this game finished in under five hours>most gmode games areI should play some gmode games.What's the best one to start with?
>>537142769SMT is an inherently Japanese franchise, and was always more beloved and understood in Japan.
>>537142079Moron. Everything Tsukyomi does in V is because of Amaterasu. Just like everything Atsuta does in V is because of Miyazu.
>>537141740>Is that who it's meant to invoke?Nope. i'll just say that it's related to the Genesis.
>>537126406He showed interest in translating Ronde but apparently nobody wanted to work with him on that kek
P3R or SMTV:V?
>>537146774Both are shit.
>>537146774>Shit or piss?
>>537146860>>537147074this is exactly what i mean
>>537142816The one with Ain-20XXIt has a basic loop of fighting a guy, training, and etc. Only five dollars
>>537084951I think it'd help if>demons have stricter requirements on what they can inherit>more aggressive cap on the number of skills inherited so you aren't just passing around the same buffs, resistance passives, and damage bonuses >more avenues of attack beyond physical damage and designated elemental weakness tappers; ie ailments should be more useful or more attacks should key off of themAnd this one is going to be super divisive, but >give certain demons "favorite" skill types that they will inherit up no matter what, but they get an affinity boost and/or stat buff in exchange for fusing them using a demon that had a favorite skill of theirsI think that you can diversify things a lot more if demons have more ability to take 100% control out of your hands at times. I know it sounds weird, but with how easy the games get to being, getting good at diversifying your team skills and working with the inheritance system would help mix up the gameplay.
>>537147981You expect too much from this shithole. All genuine posters leave during news droughts and we are left with the schizo who LARPs as an oldfag despite the fact he is a zoomer.
>>537146774VV is a masterpiece. P3R is a sidegrade to FES, worse aesthetics but better gameplay and some nice expanded character stuff.
>>537146774VV is better, both are flawed but at least VV improves things. Play FES if you want to play P3.>>537148367Anything that prevents having most late game demons from have all elements is a good thing.
>>537148310no dungeon crawling? Boo
>>537148402Haunt Boogeyman
Ronde does look pretty neat desu.
>>537143780>that means they wanted to fuck each other>that means it has something to do with Kushinada talking specifically about Susano-oWhy are you calling the moron when you think all siblings in Japanese media want to fuck each other? Why do you have Oreimo brainrot?
Seeing the conversation though, what’s the consensus of demons that are hard capped to a level versus demons that level with you but require higher exp requirements? In my (shit) opinion, I think it’s fun to have a hard level cap for demons, since it makes you want to engage with negotiation more so you can use fodder for more fusion and makes every demon unique due to random inheritance. Many cases where you’re stuck with a jobber outside their level range but they have an element drain so you keep ‘em in the back.
>>537130662>You WILL NOT play the remastersMost of these look genuinely bad though.
>>537141131Idiots just love to brag and stroke their cocks over anti-authoritarianism. If they can act smug and pretend they're getting one over on someone, then they will. It's the drive of simpletons.
>>537149372I prefer hard level caps but that's really just due to my 'tism
>>537149372I've always been a pretty aggressive fuser so I've never really felt the need to hoard demons long in any case. Capped or uncapped, they go as soon as I have the option to fuse them off into something better. I do think no cap makes it easier to build "your" team, to get those four or five guys you really love and then let the rest of your stock be the meta picks and top tiers, so in that regard I'm a bit more partial to harder EXP gain.
>>537149372I prefer the former because I'm a fooser
>>537149372Uncapped, I like having my favorites around.>random inheritanceFuck no, this was removed for a reason, literally no one but actual autists want it back.
>>537149372I usually end up keeping the demon designs I like the most and boosting them when possible, the level system makes it harder, but it;s good for challenge runs. Uncapped is better.
>>537149184You are a moron. Your lizard brain can only interpret what you read in a context that fits your ship headcanon.
>>537150629You also have less demon slots as a result, meaning that you really need to manage and fuse away those who are not your favorite instead of talking and hoarding fusion fodder.
>>537150729Why are you talking about yourself?
>>537151468>no uYou sure showed him anon
>>537151702I will never take someone trying to argue every brother/sister relationship is siscon seriously. Sorry if that seems like an extreme opinion.
>>537149184At least in Tsukuyomi and Amaterasu's case, Tsukuyomi was sometimes said to be married to Amaterasu depending on the legend. Izanagi and Izanami are siblings and also husband and wife. Incestuous gods have been a thing in Japanese mythology basically since the start. Who else are they supposed to fuck?
>>537152353>Who else are they supposed to fuck?Humans, preferably me
>You can only transfer three demons from V to VVWhich ones should I transfer /smtg/? Idun, Demeter, Alice, Artemis and Cleopatra for example make my dick hard but maybe I should go for cooler/stronger endgame party members like Huang Long, Fionn or Zeus?
>>537152353>Tsukuyomi was sometimes said to be married to AmaterasuOn unsourced wikis that the Japanese don't even know exist.
this AI is shit getting scary
>>537152968You know Atlus makes their business on out there interpretations of mythology by literal who's.
>>537152560Understandable
>>537153948Barbara is a household name
>>537154193has she been a net loss or gain for the franchise
>>537154332Yes
>>537154332No
>>537152774Lolis and MILFS are soon to pass from this world.But large man with sword is eternal.
>>537152774It only add them to the compendium, you still need to pay to resummon them.Most efficient thing to do is to fuse low level shitter with broken skills and it will still cost you a lot, even for a lowly Preta.
>>537153948Barbara had sources, retard. Actually go through the encyclopedia before you talk shit.
>>537152560Susano-o went out of his way to fuck a human, so this is true.
>>537155092You can source things but also make shit the fuck up, tard-kun
>>537155343I will repeat myself >Actually go through the encyclopedia before you talk shit.And you will know what I'm talking about. I know you haven't.
>>537154706But no one use swords anymore in modern warfare while loli and milf are still lusted after.
>>537155441I'm not buying your fucking book Barbara
>>537155557It's free most everywhere including internet archive.
>>537155441But it doesn't contradict what he said, sources can be bullshit too.
hawk
tuah
Who tf is Kei?
>>537156261nahobeaner's datamined name
>>537155883Seeing as you won't stop being retarded I'll spoon feed you why you using Barbara as your example makes you out to be a retard and end this stupid argument here.It's because 95% of that book is her drawing comparisons and nothing else. The other 5% is complaining about men and claiming they're the reason mythology is constantly being rewritten but she even clarifies that this is her opinion at the start of the book, the rest is actual sourced material. She spends nearly every entry comparing one mythological figure to another and pointing out how similar they are. Her book is used so much in SMT because it's a one stop shop if you want to connect a bunch of different mythologies together in ways you wouldn't think of without having to do hours and hours of research.
i fucked your pixie as well
>>537149372Give me manual, but somewhat restricted skill inheritance and a level range. Demons level up, but once they hit their individual max level, they can't grow further. Little shitter demons like Pixie have their early game usage, but they have a maximum potential. You could also do a Persona 2 style affinity system or Devil Summoner Loyalty system where you get the most juice and progression out of a demon by using it, but then it reaches a cap in power and you're encouraged to either fuse the demon away or convert it into an item or weapon. I also like Nocturne's system of demons reaching a certain level being able to evolve into new related demons. The classic Pixie > High Pixie > Mab thing should be more prevalent. Some demons should be allowed to evolve alongside you until they reach their peak, at which point the only way up for them is to be converted into an item or used as fusion material.
>>537156375Still holding to my belief they picked this name as a NINE reference.NINE WILL NEVER DIE.
how do we have unironic barbara shills here
>>537156746I don't care for Barbara Walker's bastardization of mythology and culture, but some of Kaneko's best designs were inspired by her work. She deserves no credit, but you cannot deny Kaneko's inspirations.
>>537156746>can't separate shilling from fact
Why is fatlus so enamored with the devil? A Lawchad-aligned game would unironically be a breath of fresh air after almost every single SMT game being like "durr what if god was... LE BAD and the demons were just hecking oppressed by christianity o algo" V got a little close though
>>537157575everybody hates the jews
>>537156445>why you using Barbara as your exampleI dont? I only said that sources can be unreliable too.>the rest is actual sourced material.But have you checked those sources? That's my entire point.
>>537157662It's not just about jews though. Then again, as far as I know the closest they have gotten to representing Christ in the franchise was Messiah in Persona, and that wasn't in a negative light
>>537158531>smt2let
>>537157575SMT 2 is a law aligned game
>>537159673what the hell does that even mean?from that point, SMT 3 is a law game because you're working to create a reason. (muh chaos ending) shut up it was a bad ending.
>>537158850>>537159673True, I haven't played that one (Yet). Elaborate?
>>537158850>>537159673also why do people meme this? God is an absolute dick in the game. Even the LAW ending has you punch god in the fucking face. Anon's literally talking about >durr what if god was... LE BAD and the demons were just hecking oppressed by christianity o algoand SMT 2 IS HEAVILY pretty much this lol.
>SMT law>Christianity as we intend it
>most of the games are spent killing chaos-aligned demons who are the majority of enemies found>yeah nigga these games shill chaos too much
>>537161094Can't it be both? Law almost always outright sucks while Chaos is usually the more interesting yet flawed option. The few Law endings that I can think of that aren't complete ass in concept are SJR's New Law, Raidou 2's Law, and CoV Tao ending. Chaos endings aren't super great all the time either, the worst ending in all of the franchise is probably SJ Chaos where everyone is constantly raping and killing each other.
is smtg full of bots? I sometimes see >someone posts something>someone posts a reply that's indirectly related but not really related to OP's post at allit happens like a good 60% of the time where I'm genuinely confused. OP doesn't even respond back going like wtf is this guy on about.
>>537163513are you a bot because I've seen this post before
>>537163513I'm thinking you're a bot for asking this again
>>537160243YHVH =/= LawYou can have Law without it being solely based on the worship of a tyrant.
>>537163863>ate>>537163685>>537161094>>537162571literally this
>>537165105True, true...
>>537156606Honestly the best compromise for the demons. I just want to feel somewhat restricted in my choices so I’m forced to think cleverly about future battles then by endgame I have a plethora of options I can choose from in terms of level.
>>537161094Where are her tits?
>>537162571>Law almost always outright sucks while Chaos is usually the more interesting yet flawed optionI disagree. I think this is an opinion born from people who only know or acknowledge individualism and personal rights being the one true good. Law and order are virtues, and even if taken to their extremes are not necessarily any worse than the extremes of absolute freedom. I would argue that SJ's OG Law ending really isn't all that bad of a way to go. It still brought a form of comfort, safety, and happiness to the masses. "A place for everything and everything in its place" is an interesting idea that most people have a hard time accepting or even comprehending because they're so used to the modern ideal of individualism, and so the thought of ceding freedom to a higher power or authority sounds like poison to them.
>>537165086ass-em-tee doesn't do that thoughie
>>537163513Anon, accept that a lot of people are bad at clearly illustrating their point and make their arguments by way of comparison or from a perspective they themselves understand. What you call "indirectly related" is their attempt at relating to the subject even if their ability to express themselves toward that end is poor.
>>537160573>>537165086Elaborate oder so
>>537160243>>537159763>>537160121Watch this first, and also the very last scene of SMT 1 (pic-related) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ykJwmE6IwM&t=562sAnything that can be killed isn’t God, the Tao that can be named isn’t the eternal Tao. YHVH is a middle man for the Great Will, in the law ending you cut out the middle man and everyone embodies the Great Will through them (just like in Christianity you become Jesus, the son of God who is God, and destroy any illusionary boundaries between you and God through being the embodiment of the logos via the Holy Spirit ). YHVH in SMT represents that abstract idea of Law in general and coming to a relationship with the Great Will via law, that’s why he’s a middleman, but in the Law ending everyone is already a perfect embodiment of the law and thus the law ending is ironically the only ending without any need for laws whatsoever.Aleph is literally a stand in for Jesus, even the part with Mara represents Jesus’ temptation in the desert. Even the letter Aleph represents the spirit or breath of God in the Kabbalah.In this way I guess the law ending of SMT 2 is a midway between Buddhism and Christianity, as Buddhism rejects any worship of an ultimate Creator but in the law ending of SMT 2 this is more so interpreted as clinging to an idol of a purely external God as a form of attachment; when God is something beyond comprehension, and doing so would drive you away from God ironically
>>537165510If you wanna go deep into it, law is something most government bodies want of their citizens-a collective working as cogs for the betterment of society that doesn’t immediately go 1984. Probably something along the lines of Brave New World but that shit becomes SMT 2 real fast
>>537160243It's because in SMT2, YHVH and Messians represent Zionism and Israel, not Christianity. Messians controlled the US like a puppet, then built their Thousand Year Kingdom (Tokyo Millennium) and now are waiting/forcing the coming of the Messiah all while reigning over the rest of the world. Raidou also goes over how this has been plotted since forever and even in SMTVV there's Mastema implying he comes from Bethel of Israel.You should learn the difference between Judaism and Christianity. They do not worship the same god and no amount of jewish propaganda can change this. As a basic check, just read the Talmud story "Toledoth Ieshu".
>>537165662>>537165879Nocturne's Shijima Reason is definitely a flavor of Law and it does precisely this. It's not about worshiping YHVH, but about creating an absolutist framework for a society of harmony without passion. Yes, it's still established within a system of the Great Will, but the prospective people of Shijima are not beholden to YHVH. It's a world of stillness and equality. Law at its core is less about worship and more about hierarchy and systematization. The games where YHVH are involved are games where the system is built around and beneath Him because He would design it so. YHVH is just an extremely powerful entity that would place itself on top, little different from Chaos but with extra steps, which is why SMTII's Law route throws Him from his seat.
>>537166081Please keep in mind mystical religious ideas of ‘everything being one’ and ‘oneness within all existence’, Buddhism is chaos and it teaches that too at its core but I guess Buddhism teaches oneness via a radical acceptance of chaos
SMT Law =/= DnD LawSMT Law = YHVH (or le Great Will)
okay now im starting to get your gripes on smt iv apocolypse. It's not that it's bad at all but who the fuck translated the english script. Nozomi talks fine in japanese but then her script is like "ALPHA-MALE BULLSHIT" "HOMESLICE" "BANANACAKE" what the fuck
>>537174313The game assassinated her character from 4 and tried to turn her into a valley girl. It sucks
>>537174313my headcanon is some localizer really hated her
Where can I find undubs for IV and IVA?
>>537175024I dunno but I enjoy the dub voice acting in those games. DDS duology was also really solid. Comparing them to V/VV is sad where the subs are mandatory to enjoy the game more.
>20000 yen for four r18 manga pages on pixiv What are some ideas for an asahi comic?
>>537177480petplay xD
>>537177683No
>>537177480Nanashi taking her for a walk around Tokyo (she is naked and on a leash)
>>537178451>>537177683no jesus fuck get your gay ass fetish out of here
>>537180107Brother, you know the memes around this character.
You know I thought I was missing something when I played IV A long time ago. No, this shit STILL makes no fucking sense. I can MAYBE headcanon it as she knows Gaston will squeal so she'll try to lessen the blow by telling the hunter association herself but "taking responsibility". What the fuck do you think we're doing here?????? WHAT IS THIS BITCHES PROBLEM WHY WOULD SHE TELL THE ASSOCIATION FUCKING NOW. TENSIONS ARE FUCKING HIGH THEY'RE GONNA LYNCH NANASHI AND ASAHI FIRST CHANCE THEY GET.
>>537180239brother, it's a chance to get some good shit, don't ruin this for the memes.
>>537180347She is the most infuriating character in the entire game and it goes on to say that it was for the best and you still have her in your party even though this moment would have been a legitimate betrayal that would have alienated Nanashi from everybody and lynched as public enemy number one.
>>537177480Asahi and Nanashi find an abandoned baththouse that is somehow off limits to demons. They decide to bathe together to not lose sight of eachother... and so seggs ensues.
>>537181108and then asahi turns into a dog
>>537158138>But have you checked those sources? That's my entire point.When you typed that sentence did you realize this debate is over one line of dialog in the game? You are coming up with a convoluted theory that Tsukuyomi is in love with Susano-o because Atlus looks at english wikis that incorrectly claim there is a version of the Nihon Shoki where Tsukuyomi married Amaterasu. It's not a theory, it's just a misquote. And at the same time claiming Yuzuru wanted to fuck Miyazu. You are suggesting Atlus went through an insane amount of hoop jumping for one line. That is why people will laugh at you when you say "haha gotcha, debunked" because no one believes anything you're saying. And I'm sure you are only doing this so you can go "See? haha you think her talking directly to the protagonist is right, that's just as insane! I'm being retarded on purpose!". Except it's not insane at all, you are. You need the line to have a hyper detailed in universe explanation. A demon/human noticing something about a person at first glance is something that happens in every fucking game. You have people with high spiritual power, demons that see magatsuhi, etc that do this now and then and no one bats an eye and questions it like you do. You have ghosts in Nocturne that claimed Demi had a thing for Yuko just by looking at him. Izanami said Aleph and Hiroko were a couple after looking at them once in passing. A brain jacking dude in smt1 said the MC was in love with the heroine after one look. Yuzuru knows the MC is still himself after becoming a Nahobino at first look and Aogami even comments on how much spiritual power he must have to to able to know. A character being able to tell things about a character just by looking at them as happened before. And it's going to keep happening. The one time it's gay though we get a sperg like you.
I am married to ameterasuCitations:>Me >That one prophetic dream >Capturing God by Rico Tice
>>537184192Honesty is the true policy. Never forget that.
Your favorite PS2 character? GAY
>>537186052I don't have a favorite. What's your point?
>>537186052This but unironically
>>537186052Makes sense.
>>536694261Finished under Arbatel, LAW. While I think law is the ultimate ending all things considered, the game works best when you watch it all the endings together (like watch the other routes on YouTube since there is really very little difference between them) and I can definitely see why people like the chaos ending, and it’s not hard to have sympathy for lucifer but if you think about it for more than two seconds chaos is hell on earth for every human (and mutant) involved that will inevitably just lead to the worst most dystopian manifestation of Law over and over again anyway. Only in the law end do I feel you are freed from the cycle
this writing... is not as good as i remembered....
Why can't WE fuse with Lucifer or an angel in Law/Chaos routes? Why does it always have to be our alignment reps that go full demon/human hybrid?
>>537189045Nahobino, demifiend…
>>537189681But it would be cool, in a classic style SMT game, if you had a protag who started out not being able to do magic gaining spells in according to the route he takes
>>537189681It's not the same. Demi is very close but Nahobino not at all. It's closer to a Seraph type situation.
>>537192073>Demi is very closeIs parasitism comparable to fusion?
>>537189847Honestly would love if somewhere during the game, the main character is forced to fuse with a demon just to save their own life or such
Was just reminded that this franchise existed. Really wish there a actual good game for once so I can be autistically fixated on this franchise again :/
>>537189045But how can we wank human focused neutral if the other routes get something special that goes against what we want to wank and would make people want to play those routes?
>>537189681not the same for either of them. I'm talking about a superform.
>>537180347no seriously, for how good the game was, this is such a retarded moment. I get they want to absolve nanashi and asahi for "oops we did dumb kids stuff" but this is the most dumbest way to do it. what were the writers thinking
Speaking of fusing with demons does the chaos rep fuse with a demon in every mainline game or am I forgetting someone in a game?
>>537193727This post reminds me that there's chunk of SMT fans who needs to realize that the IP isn't pandering to them anymore and it's perfectly okay to move on.
>>537193490Only due to it's association to Lucifer. Demi is basically his representative. You could even call him Demi's sponsor like how all the other humans gain sponsors. Lucifer just broke the rules and went to him first instead of being summoned, like the rule breaker he is.
>>537187817yeah yeah you already posted this, cope seethe blah blah blah
>>537187817Hmmmm... perhaps... we were the demons all along...
>>537195568>okay to move on I have moved on to greater pastures…though will still be a fan of the series
passive skill: macca beam
>>537196342this looks like a wii u game
>>537197026Because an Atlus employee appears while you play it to wee on u, lol.
>>537197361KEK!
>>537197026It looks better than Metaphor at least
>>537200363Yeah, kudos to V for looking better than a PS2.5 game
>>537197026It is a Wii U 2 game...
Basic bullshit question for VV, aside from the tiny sidequest where you show a couple of demons some random items in the first area, there's no reason to hold on to relics, right?
>>537203472Nah, sell em all
>>537203472No, immediately sell them.
>>537200363That's debatable, since Metaphor has a artstyle while V unironically looks like one of those "Hire this man" videos on youtube
>>537203919NINTENDO
>>537203967SUE THIS GUY
>>537203472Read the descriptions though because they are interesting.
I-I-I-IKUYUMI YO
>>537203472Keep one of each
>>537187817Truly this was a Shin Megami Tensei : strange journey
>>537009760That was the easiest game I've ever played. Not much to say other than that it's quite bland with the exception of the structure gimmick and probably the closest thing I can think of to an actual baby's first trpg. You can beat it in about two hours if you're fast forwarding between turns.ANOTHER BIBLE COMPLETELast Bible III next, please don't suck this time.
>>537180347It's to actively make you never trust your friends fully for anarchy. They will actively betray you eventually in the friendship route for the normal law/chaos ideologies.
>>537211447bibble
>>537211728Food Uma
>>537212282Ignore this I’m a dumbass
Would you wear an SMT reference?
>>537215850Why are women like this?
rank the lucifers
>>537222609S: OL Lucifer A: Flat SJ milfciferB:C: old woman Lucifer D: shota lucifer F: old man lucifer
>>537222609Shota Lucifer>IMAGINE Lucifer> Raidou Lucifer>Louisa Ferre> all the other Lucifers.
>>537223341Forgot to add, Hikaru at rock bottom, worst Lucifer.
>>537186520only half gay at most desu
>>537222609Lousia (sex, NOW) > SMT2 Lucifer > the rest
it's over
Jack Frost... has defrosted...
Before we die I just want to confess that I want nothing more than to impregnate Asahi
It's all Raidou and Ringo's fault. Never again an R named character. They're all forever forbidden hereafter.
>>537229715hehe
>>537229715what about John Ronde
>>537229987*metallic crushing noise*
>>537227575she will produce a large litter
>>537231834Stop with that weird fetish
>>537232368no
>>537232368>Impregnation's a weird fetishAre you the secret 4th alignment: Schizo?
Dx2 just confirmed they are going to continue making demons that don't have official art and are even making it a series so expect more soon
>>537236280smt grandpas eating good (Actually they are eating gruel because they spend their welfare checks on Dx2 to roll for additions like these but still)
Zadkiel and Jophiel SMT Demons When?
>>537238351Never
>>537181762>When you typed that sentence did you realize this debate is over one line of dialog in the game?Nope, my post was for general cases.>You are coming up with a convoluted theory that Tsukuyomi is in love with Susano-oThat wasnt me you fucking retard, I havent even played V or VV and the fuji you were talking to bailed out a long time ago.I made that post about sources because I previously fell for the "Odin is a sperm gargler" meme, which was sourced like Barbara's work.Then I was told that it was BS and to go check the source.The source was a translator who directly translated ancient texts and said that his translation was the best one.he was in fact jewish and the only one to translate it that way.So yeah, this event taught me to be careful about (((sources))).It's even more true today with current events and official (((sources))) trying to manipulate the population.
