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Ayaka Edition
Previous: >>536748748

>Story trailer
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ULiusPxQG4

>Character banner

[8/21-9/22] Yumi Shiina 5*, Motoha Arai 4*, Tomoko Noge 4*, Kiyoshi Kurotani 4*

[8/4-9/4] Makoto Niijima 5*,
Chizuko Nagao 4*, Shun Kano
4*, Kayo Tomiyama 4*

>Weapon banner

[8/21-9/22] Moonlit Feather (Yumi Shiina-exclusive), Starrynight Soothsayer (Yumi Shiina-exclusive), Crime and Punishment (Motoha Arai-exclusive), Shadow Crowns (Tomoko Noge-exclusive), Death Stinger (Kiyoshi Kurotani-exclusive)

[8/4-9/4] Nuclear Finisher 5*(Makoto Niijima-exclusive), Omega Knuckle (Makoto Ninjima-exclusive) 4*, Gravitational Force (Chizuko Nagao-exclusive) 4*, Demon's Bite (Shun Kano-exclusive) 4*, Emerald Charmer 4* (Kayo Tomiyama-exclusive)

>Current events
[lasts 30 days after account creation] Take Your Heart
[8/21-9/4] Trial of Thorns
[8/21-9/4] Spin to Win Raffle
[8/27-9/4] Astounding Revelations

>Guides and resources
Character building:
lufel.net/?lang=kr
lufel.net/?lang=en
Synergy Guide: docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1gbV0OY_6K579nxUa5FuDcOkbxDc1VJD5ejjq3dkuELs
Banner schedule: docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Isx1vTD2ccZrdmtwiNpeJlIYkpExVdzOlbODTLoScoo

>Chat Emoji PNGs
https://mega.nz/folder/zZUkSRID#UHs3AK6fB-rnNy8S3mWKgw

>Guilds (have /vg/ in your profile if you request to join)
Netori - 100001547
Tsumi - 100013554
Motoha Slammers - 100016392
Fun Island - 100030397
Motoha Lovers - 100032970
Waifu Slammer - 100040044
Thanks, Doc! - 100035622
Four Chins - 100055671

General Chat Channel #624
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>>537037463
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Tuning Ayaka's guitar...
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This is a pubechads thread get used to it
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>>537037463
>weight: secret
>you might think I’m unhealthy
What does this mean?
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im really glad we all love tomo here
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>>537037463
>Weight : It's a secret (You might think I'm unhealthy...)
FAT
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>>537037463
Cant wait for cute tummy posts
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It's kind of nice having this as my only mission for the moment
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>>537037463
Moko Love!
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>>537038709
idk i want some new stuff to do desu, really hyped for 2.0
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>>537038059
based
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Is the conversion from Cognition Crystals to pulls the same as the conversion from Meta Jewels (150 -> 1)? If so, then these training packs are surely worth it if you get enough Cognition Crystals over time from being on the monthly card, no?
Also how do I check if my monthly card is still active because I can't figure it out
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>>537039567
The paid gems usually convert at a shit 1:1 rate, yes. It is generally better to save them for paid gem only things and only burn them on pulls as an absolute last ditch last day effort.
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>>537039567
Correct.
>Also how do I check if my monthly card is still active
Head to the shop and check the "time to claim" next to the monthly card, it tells you how many days is left on it. You can stack up to 60 days' worth of claims I think but I usually refresh it when I'm a few days out from the rewards ending.
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Motoha Slammers are killing it
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>>537039289
What's 2.0 exactly
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>>537040674
well yeah. we are the number 1 /vg/ companio
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>>537040818
the next patch coming out next week with the first part of the 3rd palace and chord + wind
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I really hope SEGA details how they're going to increase rewards during the 2.0 stream.
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>>537041031
>2.0 stream
When is it? 2.0 is next week already
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>>537040969
Oh shit I didn't even know the third palace wasn't out as I just did the second one. There are people at a crazy high level too, how do they get there, just grinding dailies since launch and downing coffee like crazy for remembrances? They're just going to roflstomp story content from now on? Seems anti-climactic.
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>>537040861
my /vg/ companio is pretty much dead. sad.
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>>537041231
Palace 3 has level 70 enemies
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>>537041231
yeah mostly spending coffees and for the whales spending jewels aswell, the level caps at 80 so im not sure if itll be them just stomping everything cause the story will catch up to them at the cap eventually
>>537041308
weve talked about this before but we probably have too many companios desu, should try and merge some
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>>537041231
>how do they get there, just grinding dailies since launch and downing coffee like crazy
Yes.

>They're just going to roflstomp story content from now on?
No.
Just like the Bank Arc in Crossroad of Fate the enemies scale with Wonder's level, so no one's gonna be instakilling anything outside of Mementos anymore.
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>>537041429
Oh shit what am I supposed to do I was underleveled beating Miyazawa as is
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>>537041231
>There are people at a crazy high level too, how do they get there, just grinding dailies since launch and downing coffee like crazy for remembrances?
>level 80
a lot of coffee and probably money
>level 70
literally just daily
>They're just going to roflstomp story content from now on? Seems anti-climactic.
nope. there's a difficulty spike.
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raise it up to a wounded cat
they bark and purr, we knoooow
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>>537041231
I think someone said the palaces start scaling to Wonders level
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>>537041702
>>537041668
>>537041740
Well nvm I guess level scaling solves that
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>>537041668
You'll be instakilling everything but the hard mobs if you're at max.
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why did they put the rarer skill upgrade reward behind miyazawa
i do not want to do his fucking fight every week, i barely tolerate having to do the baseball guy's
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>>537041664
>should try and merge some
i wouldn't mind that. mine barely meets weekly participants requirements.
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>>537038062
Eating disorder chan
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>>537042240
you get a lot of it in the metro
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>>537041308
If you put up decent numbers I have slots open in Waifu Slammer. Weekly average companio rank around 100, currently rank 23.
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>>537042240
Just use a whale Makoto friend, bro
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>>537042240
The answer to questions like this in gacha games is usually "retention" but personally the opposite is true for me for this fight. Nothing makes me want to log in and play less than knowing I have to do this again.
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>>537042240
Just auto it
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>>537043018
yeah see i tried autoing the weekly boss fights but auto is retarded and will use all your SP without thinking better of it
maybe that's because the curse team actually takes like, a single brain cell to pilot though, as opposed to the 0 the nuke team does
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Finally. Being a coffee hoarder is rough.
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>>537043387
Auto doesn't work for Miyazawa specifically because there's multiple points where you need to target specific enemies and the AI doesn't do it right. Anyone who can auto max level Miyazawa just has really strong units, it's not actual advice.
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>>537043387
>>537043793
I use Ann, Lufel, and Minami to auto 40 and the only time their have a slight issue is Ann sometimes hits decoy Miyazawa in phase 2 but the healing is covered. I imagine the next level won't be auto-able but for now its easy
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really theres a 24hr cooldown for leaving companios...
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>>537042386
i'll send an invite next week
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>>537044203
is a way for multiple companio CC faggots not to keep jumping around sharing their whale A6 characters
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Why did I think the double cards 5 daily was less daily stamina then what it is? Dumping 200 stamina each day into card farming when I want to level characters is rough.
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>>537039567
The conversion of dollars to cognition crystals however is never worth it, which stops the process from working.
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>Pick my After School activities
>Band Club with jewels and Charm and Charm-boosting part-time job
>Go in without any expectations
>Get an FC on Rivers In The Desert
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>>537046840
SAAAAR DO NOT INVEST
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>>537047637
Only retarded Asians think anything other than maybe the monthly has a good pull conversion and even that is $5 for 1/5th of a character
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Any other f2p chads ready to pull for Chord and Summer Motoha?
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>>537043453
gz
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>>537049128
just chord for me, nice jewels tho
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>>537046353
retards like you will never be pleased. have 5 doubled runs instead of 4 is good
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is makoto A2 good?
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>>537049128
I'm ready for Chord, not for Motoha though.
13/80 soft pity with 18145 jewels.
If I lose the 50/50 and don't get her afterward, I'll probably get her after starting to work on the 3rd palace and/or Memementos, so she's as good as mine, but as things stand there's no way I could go for Motoha.
I'll just save everything until Futaba probably.
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>>537049710
True I don't want the devs reducing it to 3 runs so it's 120 stamina like they did with the other doubles
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>>537049128
i only have 32k gemmies its over
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>>537047825
i kneel TWGOD
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>>537051470
>dumb sports girl x frumpy actor boy
No no.., this is good…
Please continue...
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motoha is NOT dumb
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>>537047825
Yeah I pretty much see the $5 as a server maintenance tax that happens to get some pulls.
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>>537051785
If she's so smart, where are her glasses?
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>>537051785
She’s a little dumb.
Probably less dumb than Ann and Chie, but less smart than Yukari, if we’re comparing the first-girls (who unfortunately tend to be on the dumb side of things)
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>>537052061
Hey Tomoko does her best tutoring Motoha
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>>537051785
Girls are at their cutest when they're almost retarded
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>>537051862
Fair enough if you're going to buy it even when the devs are being shit buy on google play. They have a 20% discount in some regions right now up to a certain amount meaning you can get the monthly for 20% off
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>>537052639
then why does no one like lisa
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Konbonwa
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>reach bond 15 Tomoko
>completed her preferred gift list
>13 Kindness
>Moko never appears again
What the hell game?
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>>537053118
cute
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licking kumi's unshaven dirty hairy sweaty pits after cumming on them in front of the class
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>>537053236
You took too long
Noge couldn’t resist any more, so she’s back to getting subway slammed
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Making Ayaka hum Wonder Light with my balls in her mouth
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Anyway here's Wonderwall
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>>537051470
dog shit art for a terrible pairing
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>>537051785
she is and its part of the appeal. futaba would say some shit like "*puts on expository hat* erm she put all of her stats into stamina and strength and is running a low int build!"
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>>537051785
>30/100
>not dumb
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What's the easiest way to build a consistent spiritual ailment persona for the trumpeter fight? I tried tossing makajamaon on my skadi last night but got gigacucked on seal RNG and I don't want to waste anymore rank II coins on it. Tatania's nocturnal flash is too inconsistent without more seal RNGing an ailment acc boost onto her.
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>>537056519
What level are you going for? I didn't read the mechanics and still full auto'd level 25 with a f2p team if you just need the rewards
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>>537056519
i did neko shogun with nocturnal flash but im not sure if thats best and only did lvl 25
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>>537053118
Ma'am I'm in high school and drink mocktails why do you say you think about me during the day
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>>537057009
If it can consistently apply ailments that's all that matters. I unga bunga'd 25 but I want 40 and consistently applying ailments feels nearly required. Nocturnal flash onto neko shogun would get really expensive without good seal rng so I'm a little hesitant to try that.
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>>537052713
My ex-delinquent teacher can't possibly be this cute!
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>>537049128
Sitting at 70/80 guaranteed for Chord. Not sure if I should roll for Chord A1 or hodl for Summer Makoto.
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>>537059689
*Motoha
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>>537054121
It could be worse.
Could be a Motoha simp.
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>>537059689
more units will always be better than dupes if you're not a whale
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>>537060293
She's just lonely anon.
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>>537060293
can you please not act divisive about waifus, especially ones that are best friends
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friendships are made to be broken
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I love Ayaka Sakai
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Any of the two new weapons for wonder good? Looking at them i don't really see a use case, but then again i'm a brainlet.
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>>537062937
>loves Wonder so much she wrote him a song
yeah I'm thinking it's canon
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>>537049128
Of course I am fellow f2p chad.
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>>537063218
Glimmer for bless teams
Arc for Makoto teams
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>>537063218
One is for nuke comp with Makoto and one is for bless comp with Summer Motoha. Neither are better then maxed DPS dagger in their specific comps until you have 3-4 ascension shards, but if you are planning on building Makoto team or S. Motoha, then you should try building one of the daggers based on which you prefer. That said DPS or Defense dagger are both fine for nuke comp, so I'd say bless dagger is better then nuke dagger broadly.
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Is it worth it to go for Strife cards just for Ann? I've already got a full Truth for Makoto and full Control for Vino. I'm debating just prefarming Truth for Chord even though it's not the best set long term.
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>read about summer moko's gimmick
>spark is already a big block of text that's just when 3 stacks good thing happen
how complex do things get?
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>>537049128
>only 20k gemmies
it's ok because I have 70 pity, r-right? I can still nab both Chord and Summer Motoha, r-right???
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>>537063218
>Any of the two new weapons for wonder good?
They're both good.
Glimmer for Bless teams.
Arc Knife for Nuke teams.
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not a single soul gives a shit about tomohoe
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>>537064253
>only bless i have is the flail girl still
>granny is still level 1 cause lol no ressources
rip
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>>537063630
Ann Fire team being broadly good at any challenging AoE content, even if not fire weak, leads me to say it's worth farming gold strife with good main stats. I wouldn't go autismo for off stat rolls, but yeah I'd kit out Ann before prefarming for characters that aren't released yet.
Does Dog Girl, Fire Yaoling, or Yuki end up wanting leftover Strife when they release?
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>>537064258
I like her synergy bonuses and her summer ballistics
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>>537064575
>I like her synergy bonuses..!!
so nothing to do with shitty character, which we all knew
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>>537064394
CNY Rin it looks like does want Strife so it seems like a reasonable investment since it's good for Ann short term and eventually good for CNY Rin.
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Anyone got rough tier lists for thieves and weapons? Just kind of staring at my list in this lull before new content, I got all RRs but limited resources.
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>>537064838
Why are you seething over someone agreeing with you?
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>>537065141
lufel.net and prydwen.gg both have a P5X tier list. Don't ask which one is better or the thread irretrievably devolves into a massive shitfit, so just take the average of both.
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>>537051785
She's very book dumb. 1.0 GPA. Probably only gets by due to athleticsim.
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>>537065987
Or you know, she doesnt do the homework.
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>>537066097
I didn't do my homework in school and I topped the grade in some subjects
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>>537065987
Nah Tomoko helps her get by. She gets by with a little help from her friends.
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>>537066212
Same
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>>537066212
Nice larp
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>>537066249
I actually have to wonder how smart is Tomoko. Like the fact is she was probably going to get a scholarship based on her skill at baseball and she plays one of the leadership roles in baseball as a catcher. But other than that we don't really know anything about her academics wise.
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>>537066407
It's not a larp, and it didn't really work out in the end. It got me through high school, but it didn't get me through university.
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>>537066646
I wrote this post
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>>537066249
You mean the friend she abandoned to play phantom thief with Wonder?
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not her fault merope decided she was not worth joining the main party anymore
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>>537067118
Maybe she shouldn't have fucked up so badly in timeline #8
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>>537067478
So every tulpa is a failed main party member
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>>537066425
Tomoko playing baseball at all is weird with her whole meekness and sterotypical cute nerdy look. Feels like her story should have been different, can still be involved with Motoha and hurt by Kiuchi just change other details. I think her friednship with Motoha would be more notable if she wasn't just another baseball player.
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I think of you
While waiting in the rain
Take me away as I am exhausted in the dark
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=brDb91NHY58
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>>537068678
It's not that weird, she's a shortstack shortstop and they were battery mates, and Kiuchi made them assault mates.
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Man, the content in this game is absolutely anemic. Imagine if we weren't on an accelerated schedule.
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>>537068408
Or possible palace ruler. There's clearly a timeline where Shun becomes one
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can't wait for persona 5 the phantom XI
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>>537069135
No kidding. Im burning out hard.
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>>537068679
I LOVE the o.g. winter Mont, but something about the new version makes it look like her face has melted or something.
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Mmmh Lufel's cloaca special...
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I really like Persona Asuka Langley
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>>537071057
Me too. I hope she becomes part of the main crew eventually.
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>>537070151
the berry sorbet at the bottom looks yummy at least
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>>537071057
She needs a Phantom Idol right now
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>>537068881
They can be sisters of my pole
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>>537075069
She could've been Chord
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>>537076258
There's always time. How else are they going to keep the game going if we dont get new characters to roll for
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>>537076258
She's a keyboard player though, that doesn't overlap with guitar
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>>537077430
You can play chords on a keyboard
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>>537077430
guitar players get laid
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>>537077752
I'm still a virgin
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>>537077838
bass doesn't count
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>>537069135
>Only have to play 10 minutes a day for dailies
>Only have to commit a few hours every two weeks for content drops
I'm fine with this desu. I don't want this game to be like a part time job.
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>>537049128
>Chord
Yes
>S. Motoha
Skip because Futaba is more important
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>>537049128
>Summer Motoha?
Damn right I am
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So for other server players does Mindscape end up helping balance characters out more for clearing hard content or does the difficulty ramp up so that it's just top tiers with filled Mindscapes that really get shit done.
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Is SP Recovery something to prioritize in Revelation cards?
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>>537083487
I think it's only competing with primary stat % in its slot as a main stat, but that amount is overkill except on SP expensive characters like healers and Joker.
In general, the experience has been not right now and it's not super likely fights will consistently get that much longer.
As a secondary stat on a card, I think it's fine to have.
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How do you spend your 40 odd stamina that remain after you blow your load on the 5x double revelation card?
I want to farm level breaking material, but those only cost 30, so I have 10 left over that goes to waste... so I don't do that.
For now I just farmed rank III personas.
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>>537084069
the 10 doesn't go to waste if you don't let it go all the way back to 240...
the recovery rate is super slow
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>>537084069
I pop a coffee candy from the monthly pass then burn 60 on personas.
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But enough about things that matter, lets talk about the trivial: Who has the lamest looking persona and why is it Motoha / Awilda?
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>>537084767
I'm pretty sure it's 240/24hours, so you get 1 point every 6 minutes and the 2x bonus resets daily so you'll always have a remainder of 40 stamina per day.
>>537084825
Lucky. I wish I could pay.
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>>537085505
This one is nice though
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>>537085505
I like the triangular shape of hers. it's pretty cool in terms of the silhouette. The ... whatever the fuck the black part is is really distinct and makes the whole design unique
There's honestly a lot of really good looking ones for the OCs, which I appreciate. Yui's is definitely my favorite, but Shun and Sepia's are both great too.

If I had to pick a worst one...probably Tepsichore (Mont's one)? It's the worst "female women" persona, and there's a lot of elements to it that just look garish - I don't like the skates/boots, I don't like the tutu (especially the buckle in the middle), I don't like the cape, I don't like the hat, and I don't like the hair. It's just not good.
Key's is a bit of a miss too, but a lot better than that.
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>>537086098
It's not luck, it's a credit card. Anyway the other anon is right, that 10 stamina isn't wasted, just start playing earlier the next day. Use 230 stamina at 3pm, log in the next day at 2pm and you won't lose anyway. Use 230 more at 2, log in at 1pm the next day, etc. Stamina is never "wasted" as long as you never see 240/240. Just use 30 stamina on leveling mats or persona coins.
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>>537086805
>it's a credit card.
Not when you're using an account from a different region (._. )
The luck is living in the correct region (Japan).
...
Regarding the use of stamina, you'll need to keep pushing back 1 hour each day to accommodate the 10 stamina deficit. I ain't loggin' in from work.
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>>537087781
You can just wait a couple hours and use more stamina then. If stamina is about to start hitting 240/240 while you're at work, just spend 200 on the cards, wait 2 hours, then use 60 so you hit 240/240 the following day 2 hours later. Alternate between using a little more than 240 and a little less than 240 so it evens out. The extra stamina per login from the thieves den kinda fucks with this math a bit but that's the idea.

My stamina hits 240/240 in the evening, I just have to make sure I don't underuse stamina (230) for enough days in a row that it ends up maxing out while I'm working which just requires using a little extra once every few days. Sometimes life gets in the way and I get home late so I waste some stamina, but oh well, it's just a dumb video game.
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>>537088426
>but oh well, it's just a dumb video game.
NO! WE MUST BE PERFECT! EVERYTHING MUST BE PERFECT!

Nah, you're right. :)
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Skipping chord for A1 summer closer
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If the rates for our version is so shit that you have to regularly go to 80 pulls on the 50/50 banner why would the guaranteed banner be any worse in any scenario
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>>537088883
Because retards are emotional. 110 banner offers more limited units at the cost of some standard units.
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when yumi says she's going to give me something "just as good in return" i really hope she's talking about sucking my penis
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>>537089060
prostate orgasms.
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>>537088975
Not how it maths out
The higher odds on the 50/50 banner give it a (very slight) edge
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Is there any point to levelling Tomoko anymore? The book store job probably gives knowledge, but I don't really knowledge right now, so I don't want it clogging up my time slots over jobs with stats I actually want to level.
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>>537090170
I just hit rank 13 with her and switched my priority over to Key.
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>>537090373
I'll probably do that. His later ranks seem to give actual benefits unlike most of the others
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>>537090170
>I don't want it clogging up my time slots over jobs with stats I actually want to level.
fugg :DD i didn't even think of this
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>>537089821
Yeah, you have a 72% chance of hard pitying on the 50/50 vs an 80% chance of hard pitying on the 110. The "higher odds" are 0.8% vs 0.4% and you can still lose the coinflip on 50/50.
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>>537092686
>72% chance of hard pitying on the 50/50
Stats fuck with me, so I'm assuming you're right and I'm wrong, but -ignoring soft pity- can you explain that?
I'm thinking 0.08% odds equates to 1/125 chance of a hit. 79 tries / 125 = 63.2% chance of a hit through your 79th pull, meaning the remaining 100%-63.2% = 36.8% is the chance of not getting a 5* until the 80th pull.
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Why is she in every gacha?
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>>537092686
I haven't taken the relevant math class in almost a decade. But if I remember right to calcaulte the worst case of hitting hard pity it would be (99.2/100)^79 * 0.5 * (99.2/100)^79 which comes to 14%. For 110 that would simply be (99.8/100)^109 which comes to an 80% chance of hitting hard pity. Now this doesn't account for soft pity, but that's why people say without soft pity the 50/50 does average out to be better. We'll see how they end up implementing it
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>>537094020
That's right; thank you.
(99.2/100)^79 are the odds of not pulling a 5* through the 79th pull.
At the 80th pull, you have a 50% chance to get the featured character, so that's where the 0.5x comes from, and then you need to take another journey through 79 more pulls for the guaranteed character. Makes sense, but we should compare where it stands at 110 pulls.
Would that be (99.2/100)^79*0.5*(99.2/100)^29 = 21% chance of not getting the featured 5* at the 110th pull [ignoring soft pity]
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>>537093994
chinks like long haired platinum blondes, what a mystery
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>>537094696
>Would that be (99.2/100)^79*0.5*(99.2/100)^29 = 21% chance of not getting the featured 5* at the 110th pull [ignoring soft pity]
To be honest it's going to be a lot harder to calculate that (well easy for people who know how to do it, but that is not me). There's only one way to hit 160, so that makes it easy to calculate, but there's a lot of paths to 110, you could roll a standard at any time during 0-80 and then go into the rate up mode, but this doesn't really account for that.
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>>537093994
Gacha games are creatively bankrupt
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>>537093994
literally who
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>>537052952
Sabotaged by being a Enjo Kōsai drug addict with the wrong kind of daddy issues.
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>>537095049
Oof, yeah, definitely not me.
So at first it's 0.4% chance to get the feature and 0.4% chance to get a standard 5*.
If you get a standard 5*, then your rate for the feature goes up to 0.8%, yeah?

So thinking about turn 'n' would be like
you had 0.996^(n-1) chance to miss the feature
and 0.004^(n-1) chance to hit a standard 5* which would then roll yourself over to 0.992^(m-1) odds of hitting the feature where m represents the m-th turn where you hit the standard 5*...
Fuck. Fun to think about, but it's time for bed.
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>>537094696
IIRC the rate on the 110 is 0.2% and it's always the banner char, so the chance of not getting the banner without going to 110 (aka through pull 109) is just 0.998^109 = ~80%.

If we don't have soft pity, it's extremely unlikely to get the banner from pure rng on the 110, it's basically guaranteeing you'll spend 16.5k gems for a character rather than risking spending 24k (plus you don't have any chance of getting standard dupes as a consolation prize). If we do have soft pity and it kicks in at 70, as I've read it does on CN/KR, then the odds will ramp up much more in the 110 banner so it works out to be better. So yeah I guess we'll see if that ever gets confirmed or datamined or whatever, but 110 is still the better option for the risk-averse.
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>>537095758
Jesus, I didn't know Persona had a canonical prostitution. I thought Shiho suicide and Akechi was as dark as they've ever gotten.
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>>537096465
It's the fan translation. The official one doesn't go that far
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>>537096854
I wish ginko would whore herself out to me for money
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>>537096465
suicide and murder are darker than prostitution
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>>537096854
what is the best version of P1 and P2 to play anyway? I know P1 USA edition is insanely dogshit to the point it becomes funny
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>>537096265
>(plus you don't have any chance of getting standard dupes as a consolation prize)
Supposedly for the 110 banner you get a random 5* at 120-125.
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>>537097260
Big if true. I'll wait for the thing to drop and let whales throw money at it to see if it ends up being true, because that's pretty nice if so.
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>>537097408
Well, I'm planning to A6 S. Motoha banner so I'll give it a whirl.

>>537097254
I heard you should just watch the story because the gameplay is eh.
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>>537097260
You get it every 165 pulls on the banner. To mimic going to hard pity twice on the 50/50.
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>>537097254
It's a surprisingly divisive topic, but at least with recent fan patches there's some clearer answers now.
With P1 the PS1 soundtrack is the better one, it's subjective but the PS1 soundtrack gives the game the atmosphere it has, the PSP soundtrack tries to be more like P3/4, and while there's catchy songs, it's just not conveying the tone. So you either had to pick the shitty localisation of the ps1 version or the unfaithful soundtrack of the psp one. Now there's a proper patch for the psp version to add in all the original songs, which was a harder task than it sounded like because the original was more songs in more places, so it wasn't just a matter of replacing the music files, they had to reprogram in the music triggers. You can get that here https://gamebanana.com/wips/68611
The PS1 ui was also a bit more soulful, but there's a mod for the psp version which doesn't recreate the ps1 fully, but it matches the vibes more, that one's here https://gamebanana.com/mods/608706
With those patches I say the psp one is the clear choice (well until a faithful translation patch for the ps1 version comes out, then either is fine)

Many P2 fans would crucify me for saying this, but I like the PSP versions more for P2, if only because the autobattling is more robust, which makes it easier to auto through the very dull P2 gameplay. They'll rightfully say the UI is worse to use, but thanks to the better autobattle you don't need to touch it as much. Also the fan translation patch for EP psp let's you import your IS psp save file and that adds some pretty cool things into the game.
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>>537097557
>I heard
fuck off zoomer
>>537097254
P1 and P2 are best on PSP
PS1 and PSP versions of P1 are very different, forget the USA one, even the original japanese version they are closer to SMT, when the PSP version is closer to modern persona
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>>537097557
>I'm planning to A6 S. Motoha banner
thank you for keeping the game from EoS
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>>537098000
checked
>>537098013

thanks bros
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Have any of you tried using those psy attack items you can make at your workbench for the Psyflame Velvet Trials?
Did they help?
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>>537099141
>items
kek lol lmao even
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>>537099141
Back when I had a shitty team I tried to use consumables to survive shadow miyazawa, then I died and I didn't get those consumables back. From there on I swore to never use consumables again
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>>537099881
Sorry to hear that. I used a couple of those relax pills or whatever.
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>>537099141
i only ever used items to cleanse. the gift economy is too important to me.
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>>537108957
For a moment I thought Tomoko and Kiuchi would double lariat Motoha.
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>>537108957
I don't understand how no one knew it was him
In Nipland they even have those guys that check if the stations are okay(even visible in this scene)
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>>537108957
How the fuck did he launch her OVER a train door barrier just by hitting her. Not even rugby tackles can do that.
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>>537111007
But he clearly didn't? You can see how she was lifted enough for her ass to hit the door barrier, and her upper body rolls over it
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>>537111007
I expected her to actually fall over it on purpose, because there's no way this would work otherwise.
But in the end it's just the SUBWAY SLAMMER meme.

Come on an slam, in the subway jam.
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>>537111854
>hit her hard enough to lift her center of gravity over the barrier
>this is completely realistic and not worthy of notice
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>>537090170
After you get Tomoko's last +stats for jobs passive it's safe to stop levelling her & kindness. IIRC the kindness needed for her last good passive lines up with the amount of kindness needed for Yui's last good passive (faster growing plants aren't necessary) so you can shutdown the whole "Kindness to Tomoko/Yui Synergy Pipeline" once you get to that level.
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>>537121178
Pretty much where I'm at. I'm on the charm grind now, want to get rank 17 on yumi
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>muh statistics
I don't know why people set themselves up for disappointment by not always assuming worst case scenario when it comes to gacha. Securing a character on 110 pulls is a much appreciated peace of mind compared to potentially spending 160. Averages are just averages.
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>>537122529
You have a higher chance of pulling the character in your first 10 pull than going to hard pity twice in a row.
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I got the last 2 5 stars in 20 rolls each, this is purely a skill issue
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>>537084069
>How do you spend your 40 odd stamina that remain after you blow your load on the 5x double revelation card?
I start another 1x run, alt+tab out, read or watch whatever and go back 5 minutes later.
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>>537088883
>why would the guaranteed banner be any worse in any scenario
It wouldn't.
It isn't worse, it's better.
Retards will tell you otherwise, and even more retarded dumbfucks will tell you that the 110 banner is worthless without soft pity.
It will never not be better to guarantee a limited 5* at 110 pulls/16,5k jewels than risking your chances, losing the 50/50 and then spending anywhere from 1500 to 12000 jewels after you already spent 12000 to get the unit you want, that is the limited 5*.
Every 165 pulls you get a random standard 5* too, so it all evens out in the end anyway.
110 banners are great for F2Ps who can only hit 50/50 once per month or hit hard pity once every 2 months desu.
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>>537099141
I didn't even remember those existed.
I only use items to deal with Miyazawa's bs because Unicorn is a liability and I don't want to spend stamina on passing Patra to a better persona.
It sounds potentially useful to farm AoAs for easy points, assuming they're usable at all.
Someone should give it a try to see what happens.
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>>537125691
Borrow a nurse. Skill 2 takes care of this shit as well, and she's as good of a sustain as you need.

Only issue is you should find a nurse with actual speed. So pay attention of the speed order on the deploy screen. Though I'm not sure how much it matters in this specific battle..
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>>537127167
We're not talking about Miyazawa but VT Anon.
You can't use Assists there.
I have no problems beating Miyazawa.
Though yesterday I did use an Assist Minami and it made me feel genuinely angry about the 6 months delay.
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>>537125345
Is ti 165 or 125? I've heard conflicting info, but it might just be people mixing things up.
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Fuck...i got the gamer set in metro and didn't go for Hydra...
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I got 2 4* char cases and the 5* weapon case. What do i take? 2 hags and weapon for Ann?
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>>537128129
165
>>537130212
yeah anns 5 stars really good, as for 4 star people say that vino and leons are really good if you like those characters
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Do anyone social links ever have the Persona 4 Groucho Marx glasses as a preferred gift?
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It's been 3000 years, holy fuck.
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https://youtu.be/Fpdly_gSy9U?si=DKj1EGSKCaGIHZlV
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>>537136441
>Wonder has been stuck in a timeloop for 3,000 years trying to do... something
Sisyphus theory confirmed
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>>537136076
yum
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This felt like a good (Lv40) run until he started to one shot my Ann. Everything went downhill in 2 turns after that.
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>>537136441
Oh shit so those 2 only come from the dice event? How far into the run were you?
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>>537143607
I don't pay a lot of attention to the metro lmao, I just rush in Fast Mode.
But yeah, those 2 items come from the dice tile, just like the Hero ones.
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>>537141527
Most strats kill the guy boosting damage first to not pass the skill to him
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>>537144010
How does the skill passing thing work? I killed off the guy that does Parasol of Chaos first and then some other one, but the Asura that spawned still kept using Parasol to cover its resistances.
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>>537141527
That's why I kill the buffer king, because asura already gets one, and his damage starts ramping pretty high with both otherwise.

>>537144206
Supposed to get the skills of the two survivors, but I have noticed that bug.
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>>537144206
Make sure you kill the correct one. The thing with the resistance cover is that this buff is used on the LOWEST HP ALLY, so the one who gets this buff isn't necessary who you need to kill.
In fact the best way to kill this guy ASAP is to make sure it's not damaged much in the first turn, but you damage your other target more.
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>>537144010
>>537144396
I killed Bisha and then Koumokuten, the one that holds a brush and a scroll, because Lunge destroys me and since there's 2 I wanted to at least leverage the chances of my party dying to it.
How much did I fuck up?
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I love Motoha so much it's unreal
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>>537146678
that but tomoko
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>>537146772
said no one ever
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>>537146678
That but Ayaka
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>>537146907
Except for that Anon and me.
And any heterosexual man, appreciative of women with glasses.
Eternal reminder that you will burn in Hell in due time btw, homo.
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>>537147684
Kill yourself samefagging retard
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>>537148015
why so angry
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>>537148313
Because I hate samefagging retards like you trying to pass yourself off as different people
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>>537148452
anon, this is my second post in this thread with the first one being >>537038149
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Tomoko might not be the hottest girl in the game but she's cute in a basic need way and her synergy page idle animation is the most for you of them all
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>>537093994
if only the gameplay was good...
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Tomohoe is ugly as shit and needed to get ran over by the train
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She's cute in a "she looks like a wholesome granny" way.
Y'all just have big shit taste, that's why you don't see her charm.
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>>537148843
This but the stupid cat
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when is sega/perfect world implementing the genshin lvl 100 uncap system here as well??
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>>537148843
this but Motoha should've gotten SLAMMED instead
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>>537150967
Just wait for us to see timeline #3 for that
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>>537150967
nah a perfect world is a dead Tomohoe
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What's the strategy for the companio Surtr boss if I don't have any ice characters?
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>>537150967
>still no Slammer x Motoha NTR
It's so over.
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you know what's over?
tomohoe's baseball career
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I love my cute canon wife Tomoko!
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>>537152528
Use your one companio assist/week to borrow someones Yusuke and buff his defense.
If no one in your companio has one, use your party to buff wonder/aoe debuff, and use a frost aoe persona, but you will get a shitty score.
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>>537152528
>Lie down
>Try not to cry
>???
>Cry
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>>537153440
we know, rail road tracks.
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>>537153530
This might be funniest Tomoko hate comment so far
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shinji when
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>>537154345
TOMOKO NOOOO WATCH OUT
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I want to have lovey-dovey sex with Haruna
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Does beating all bosses on each difficulty in metro give you more progress or can you just do your highest?
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>>537157454
beating a boss on difficulty 4 counts as beating it on difficulties 3, 2, and 1, so i assume the latter
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>>537108957

I was thinking when this happened, the stakes would've felt dire if she was actually in danger of being hit by the train.
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>>537068679
She's divine.
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>>537158553
But then the npcs might’ve actually given a shit, can’t have that.
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>>537108957
Would've been more impactful if Tomoko got ran over by a train in that moment. Like throw in a fatality counter into the mix, be a step up but no, we can't apparently upstage the OG retard targeting students.
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>mfw I spike his drink
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>>537159812
Yandere palace ruler could be interesting
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If I do a single pull to get Makoto will I be able to guarantee one copy of Chord with the gems from next update?
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>>537160172
isn't that what the little girl from the dynasty warriors game was doing?
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>>537153503
Guess I'll have to use my shitty ass Makoto instead of the whale A3 Makoto for the fox then. Thanks.
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>>537159508
Her codename should be Erotic because she embodies it with every fiber of her being.
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>>537160390
we dont know exactly how many jewels 2.0 will give, some say its 10k minimum so it might be a bit risky
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>>537160390
If they don't screw us with the monthly rewards for September, I'd say you have a pretty solid chance.
A single will leave you with 9500 jewels.
During the past 2 months we've been getting from 9k to 9,5k jewels through gifts, events, SoS, Nightmare Catcher and so on, .
v2.0 is a big update though. On top of the monthly rewards there's also a chunk of the 3rd palace and probably a new area of Mementos too.
They're also giving us 20 plat ticks to celebrate the update, and that's an extra 3k.
I think you might have big chances to hit 24k by the end of the month, but that's only if they don't screw us with the monthly rewards.
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>>537159508
For God, for your beloved.
"Divine Service," for any affair.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fkXa_9bAlBc
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>>537161643
Even a Fine Borrowed fox + Shitty Makoto is going to score way higher then No Fox + Borrowed Whale Makoto. He counterattacks everyone and racks up a ton of points. It's essentially a punishment for anyone who didn't roll Fox.
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>>537162045
I completely forgot about stream gifts and gems from mementos. I also have the monthly pass for next month so I may just pull at reset. Thanks for the advice
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damn 620 is a lot
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is there a way to bypass the google play games pc client for that discount?
i know some games you can just run the executable if it's available
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>>537170474
Don't worry it gets easier. Just keep firing up those violet bouquets.
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>>537171086
Are bouquets and teas the best way to raise synergy for cheap after you give all gifts?
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>>537171541
Standard gifts without first time bonus cost roughly $200 per synergy point gained. Cheap gifts are slightly more cost efficient, while expensive gifts trade loss of cost efficiency with high raw amount of point gain.
Base crafted flower gifts, factoring in cost of wrapping and rough estimate of seed cost, are roughly similar, maybe closer to $175-$185/point. But if you have Yui's Rank 9 (Gift from the Earth / Random Seed Refund), Yui's 13 (Bountiful Harvest / Random Extra Flowers) and Lufel's 5 (Efficient Prep / Random Gift Material Refund) combined, the cost per point goes down to ~ $100/point. Once you are out of First Time Gift bonuses, the most cost efficient gift for any girl that likes a flower gift is that flower gift, especially if you've levelled Yui synergy and are at current story end for Lufel synergy.
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>>537172392
This game is too autistic for me. I am not gonna make it.
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>>537172682
Speaking of, Lufel rank 7 isn't going to unlock during the next palace, correct? It makes crafted gifts even better.
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>>537172682
just give shit to whoever whenever and don't worry about it.
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>>537172682
same bro
i really cannot be bothered to go gift shopping, especially since all the shit is spread out between a dozen different stores in three to five different locations
i think i'm just gonna keep on whatever flower i can grow for the least money
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>>537174524
When Mio gets added you can use the phone to buy shit
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>>537156409
you can't have sex with haruna ,wonda she is 8
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Wtf you can only buy the energy drink pack once?
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>>537174524
most of the relevant stuff is in the underground mall
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i can't even be fucked to keep buying assam tea, you guys think i'm gift shopping?
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364/420 stars for the velvet trials now
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>>537172682
>>537174524
Just click the heart likes on the synergy tab and click the item and one of the "How to Get" stores and you get teleported to the store. You are making this more complicated than it needs to be.
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>>537175568
>you get teleported to the store
you get teleported to the zone.
if you got teleported to the store they might as well allow me to buy it from within the fucking synergy menu. its shit.
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>>537175652
you get a waypoint and just go 10 seconds
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>>537175740
busy work.
tedium.
"""gameplay"""
i am having """"""fun"""""""
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>>537175740
it gets really annoying though
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>>537175459
Is the higher level velvet trial meta just "wonder buff bot", not even trying to have him knock shields? I use him to knock off shields while not triggering all out attack, and I wind up short on points to 3 star a level. Does all of the damage need to be non-wonder weakness score multiplied to get 3 stars on higher levels?
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just noticed i got to knowledge 11 without ever working on it, kek
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>>537177424
I've run out of non-knowledge books and dread the first time I get a free book reading morning and have to waste it getting knowledge(derogatory).
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>>537176648
nah, ive been using him strictly for knocking shields and giving an element boost to my party
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>>537176648
>Does all of the damage need to be non-wonder weakness score multiplied to get 3 stars on higher levels?
also yes
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>>537112842
>>537114649
>But in the end it's just the SUBWAY SLAMMER meme.
He has reached the peak of the human condition allowing him to perform superhuman feats.
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>>537178127
i'm at least 40% sure that the kagetsuchi fuck or whoever is 'condemning Menaces" is actually giving them fucked up Shadow Powers, which is what was up with Miyazawa having to recruit a replacement Subway Slammer before he got cut off
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Band practice has been.. different than usual.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oQp7Id8iRA4
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Netori guild is dead, everyone is leaving.
Which one of those is active ?
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>>537178869
Waifu Slammer will take good players, I regularly prune baddies when someone asks for an invite and the average boss rank is ~#100. Currently ranked #30 on this weeks boss since we have a whaled Yusuke on assist to cheese this week's frostboss.
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>>537178614
That's pretty much it I think. They essentially enable the Menace to keep doing the shit that they're doing.
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>>537178869
Motoha Lovers is active but doesn't consistently break top 200. There's one or two whales carrying it as best as possible but it's far from tryhard if you want an active but less sweaty guild.
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>>537179428
>>537179970
I left Netori just now.
I'll be sending an invite to Motoha Lovers whne the CD runs out.
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>>537178869
motoha slammers is good if you're not a leech. We're consistently in the top 100 and you will be kicked if you're inactive or a retard that waits til the last day to do the guild boss.
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>>537181105
I mean I'm nether retarded or a leech. From my gacha experience when ppl speak of "good players" they mean whale 100% of the time.
So since I'm F2P I don't want to slow you down.
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RAISE IT UP, TO A WOUNDED CAT

THEY BARK AND PURR, WE KNOOOOOOW
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Is it worth it to spend AP on the Victory Kitchen challenge?
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>>537182419
i did it once, i didn't get shit out of it
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>>537182419
at what point do you ditch the chopsticks and go to town on the noodle mountain like a hungry dog
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I'm gonna assume this doesn't apply to Wonder sporting Medic/Guardian personas
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>>537182820
it does not. learned that the hard way.
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>>537182419
if it give guts it's very worth it because it gives 14
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>>537182419
the stat it give is what you require to pass it, I dunno the levels breakpoints, so for example it need 8 proficiency and you will win, you get a bunch of money if you pass and it changes to another stat
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>>537184000
>>537184285
Do either of you happen to know how much guts the universe challenge takes
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>>537184594
Don’t know.
My question is, if you beat the guts one, is it just gone forever? Or can you keep using it to raise stats?
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>>537184594
thats the third one? if so im on 11 guts and still cant beat it
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>>537184756
Shit I just hit 10 and was hoping it was enough
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>>537186106
turns out you need alotta guts to impress that voluptuous brunette hag at the other table
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I'd like to thank the based level 80 Yusuke on my Companio for carrying my level 70 ass team on Nightmare.
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>auto keep attacking the rider already dead
this fight is so retarded
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mobile gamers when they have to play the game
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>>537188164
just reset till you get the pocket watch item if you want to skip it
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>>537187535
>all these people relying on whale assists
No Wonder my scores are shit. Not fair!
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>>537184752
you can do it forever and its free
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>>537188406
In his defense, his Yusuke has no awakenings. It's just that the stage shills him hard.
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>>537188315
>game conditions players to play on auto
>make game mode that practically lends itself to playing on auto
>lol you should have actually played the idle-sim
hmm..
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>>537188753
I know, I'm f2p and my only limited 5* is an A1 Fox with his 5* weapon, but he's only Level 70 and my score is somewhere in the 30% range.
I don't want to leave my guild (one other guy) because he'll be lonely, but I'm sad about not having a couple options for assists.
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>>537189418
why not invite the other guy with you to a new guild
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>>537189720
We're too chill to chat.
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>>537189062
only low difficulties are auto sims. Higher difficulties require strategy
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Welp.
I hope we can still do the daily tasks even after completing the raffle.
I remember that last time they kinda patched it on the last day or 2 and made it so you couldn't access them.
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>>537190736
Damn bro, you just doing metro all day e'ry day?
I only stumble upon 4, maybe 5 tickets for a full run through the three paths or whatever it is.
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>>537188470
>and its free
Neat
I do find it a bit silly that you can do the challenge in the middle of the second arc’s storyline
Like.. you can get the old guy going to the hospital, and then immediately after you can go and have Massa give you this fuck-huge thing of noodles.
Very much feels like something that should have been locked to after you beat the 2nd palace
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Since when do skills that you already learned through medals turn into Repression Medals?
That wasn't a thing the last time I went on a persona fusing spree like a month ago or so.
For example, you can farm Sudama or Nigi Mitama in Mementos or Miyazawa's Palace and trade them for Represion Medals II which you can use to buy 2 out of 3 components for Skadi, or to buy personas with handy skills for inheritance if you're not at the top yet.
This is pretty cool stuff.
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I love Ayaka Sakai
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We did it lads
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What build do you guys run on your Wonder? I'm using him mostly as a shielder + buffer (honestly Norn's shields are so fucking good that I never feel the need to have a Medic persona to heal). Narcissus' Windswept success rate is extremely high as base and Janosik's Mark is a fixed chance so outside of this stupid event I don't feel like Ailment Accuracy is needed.
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>>537195238
gz
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>motoha lovers is in the top 200
we're no longer the worst /vg/ companio
we're going to make it bros
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Fun Island bros, not like this...
We didn't even have 10 participants until I cleared it.
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>>537195843
havent levelled the 7th, 8th, 11th and 12th skills, not sure if its the best build
crit rate might be important with personas like dionysus and skills like rebellion
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>>537196842
Yeah I have Crit Rate maxed, it's the Crit Mult that's low. Any points I get from unlocking Rank VII personas are gonna go into that.
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>>537195843
Feels like its working okay
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>>537197001
oh my bad, i got them the wrong way round sorry
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>>537197095
damn anderson really got to you with all that health food stuff huh
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>>537144010
>>537144396
gg ez.
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my companio is not a /vg/ one but we are missing about 10 members, can I still post it anyway?
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it boggles the mind how people don't even meet the requirements for the minimum individual rewards from doing companio bosses. yeah, i get not being a try hard but you could at least get all the rewards for yourself.
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are there some retard proof team comps for velvet trials if I don't want to level all the 4*s to 70?
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>>537197821
I would love to see YOU do it with level 60 4* characters that are A0-A1, 3* weapons, and maybe Ann. We're not all paypiggies.
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>>537197252
As if I'd ignore the advice of my only male friend
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>>537197821
I do.
On the very last day.
Every day before the last I just get my assist points and fuck off.
There isn't a reason to rush desu. It's just like SoS.
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>>537198050
I could do that on Hard/Challenging. I only started doing Nightmare at 70, it's not even necessary to get all rewards, one stage is always a freebie by lieu of using an ally unit.
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>>537198465
>by lieu of using an ally unit.
If you're relying on an assit, then (You) didn't beat it.
Also, that's not how you use the word 'lieu' -- in lieu of saying 'by lieu' you should have said 'by way' or 'via.'
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>>537198198
Yep I've been doing the same. I always participate and get max rewards, just can't be bothered to do it immediately
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>>537198786
Autism coupled with /v/ brainrot. What a nasty combination.
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>>537198786
don't care i'm in top 5% cause of the whalebro and got all my rewards in one go. didn't even have to do both bosses.
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>>537198786
You have dangerous levels of autism
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>>537198997
>>537199349
t. the same retards who say 'less' when they mean 'fewer'
Your intelligence is so low that you think anyone with even a basic understanding of the English language has autism.
How about you go ask your AI chat about 'by lieu.'
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>>537199005
retards like you arent welcome in Motoha Slammers
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>>537191740
NTA but I got the 30 raffle tickets pretty quickly just spamming fast mode. Took maybe 45 mins? I don't remember. Plus I was doing it to grind xp, the tickets were just a bonus.
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quick post your individual scores to prove you ain't bad
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>>537195843
Full max base stats and % increases, then respec into damage or support depending on the content I'm trying to clear. Eg just recently I respecced for ailment acc for the trumpeter fight since you can spam forget/dizzy on the riders and cuck their horns for the whole fight if your accuracy is high enough but if the Kohryu guild boss is up I might respec again for damage.
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what's the best purseowner to bring for trumpeter?
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>>537201063
I'm about to jump in with Mothman after respeccing Wonder's schema to max out ailment accuracy and defensive stuff.
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>>537201063
Skadi with Mothman's AoE forget skill
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>>537201063
Mothman and spam makajamaon on the riders so they can't play their horns. If you wait for a rainy day he gets a huge boost to ailment acc, or you can try to inherit ailment acc 1 from iirc Kodoma (cheap seal, easy to fuse). Make sure to respec Wonder to max the ailment accuracy stat.

I spent like 3k coins trying and failing to get makajamaon on skadi like a fucking retard but mothman works fine out of the box so he's a perfectly good option if you want a quick and easy choice.
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Can anyone post the image of what stats are recommended for a units revelation cards please?
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>>537202959
makoto, ann, tomoko and motoha all need + ass increase %
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>You have to beat the riders twice and then Trumpeter
>And you have to do this 8 times to unlock all the effects for the custom battle
I only did the first fight and I'm already mentally exhausted desu.
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>>537202959
No.
>>537037463
>>Guides and resources
>Character building:
>lufel.net/?lang=kr
>lufel.net/?lang=en
Click Characters.
Use the search bar.
Click a character.
Scroll down and you'll see them right away.
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>>537203368
It takes a while but just borrow the assist thieves, throw in any healer to keep them alive (run support Wonder too if you can), and autobattle. I barely had to intervene only on the 8th challenge. The Yuki/Fox assist combo in particular legitimately plays itself.
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>>537203368
Just auto
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>>537202959
dont use lufel net
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>>537179970
Oh yeah btw. Thanks for taking me few days back.
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>>537204637
I ain't the leader, I just shill for it so we can get to 30 members. It's honest work.
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what is the easiest buff for lvl 25? and 40?
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>>537202959
dont use prydwen
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>>537204337
My Wonder keeps uses Flash Bomb instead of Makajamaon and that triggers me ngl.
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>>537205571
You only need to spam ailments for 40, all the fixed ones you just need a solid team
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It's funny that all the main characters are supports so far
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I got turn cucked again, this time the Area 4 final boss in mementos at 80 turns where rec level is 65. Asura was beaten, just that cheap summon was left, needed like two turns. I guess I'm the thread levelet, slowly inching to 60, at 58 now.
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wtf is a spiritual ailment
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>>537207470
forget/dizzy/enrage/sleep/etc
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>>537207470
it means mental ailment like fear, forget etc. They're shit in this game because the devs didn't program them differently like they did with elemental ailments and then disabled them on most bosses which is 99% of content
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>>537207470
The stuff that you would expect to see in Hentai doujins, as opposed to the elemental status effects
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PER RU SO NA
DIOOOOOOOOOOO
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>>537203368
i'm glad i didn't listen to the people trash talking yusuke. i was actually able to auto the trumpeter 40 fight with him, minami, ann and okyann.
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>>537207470
I'm sad
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>>537205148
bless you anon, i believe lovers can consistently hit top 200 if we're just more active.
and bless our whalebro that let me borrow their a6 motoko.
got me 52 mil on that nuke boss. so ridiculous how powerful she is.
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>>537203368
>turn limit option
>80 action limit
>it cant't be that bad
>finally reach trumpeter on turn 76
was fucking sweating once the counter hit 50.
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>>537207812
Yeah I've kind of passively thought that, like I don't even give a fuck when I come across a skill with mental ailments and barely pay it any mind
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Why doesn't motoha join that girl's baseball team? This weird rivalry makes no sense. The girl was even excited have motoha join and offered up access to her team's training facilities which are surely better than a random public batting cage. and then offered up the goal of "because we want to gain more respect for women's baseball!" which seems valiant enough, and Motoha's like "no fuck that and fuck you!"
but sure, instead going to the batting cages with a guy who has the personality of a bar of soap is surely what will get you into the big leagues.
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>>537211239
maybe pay attention to the dialogue instead of speed reading
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>>537211239
Japanese baseball is hardcore. They expect you to do baseball for 24/7. Right now Motoha wants to be a Phantom Thief and unfortunately doesn't have the time to do baseball.
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>>537208743
>motoko

motoha
tomoko
>makoto
makoto (2)
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>>537212913
actually i was watching ghost in the shell so my wires got crossed
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What level is my team supposed to be to survive the Nightmare version of the dog guild boss? My Vino is getting raped at lv60
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>>537213661
70
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>>537212678
We haven't done any phantom thieving in over a month
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>>537214331
You haven't had sex in over a month either, does that mean you should go full incel? Then again I don't think anyone could tell the difference in your case.
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>>537216414
Post your UID pussy
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>>537218418
your UID pussy
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>>537218671
a bomb?
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>>537216414
Those psy fights man... I have an A6 Tomoko and a Riddle, but they're both at level 1. I don't have the resources to level them up, and even if I did, neither is really an attackers.
I'm thinking once we get Chord, then I could team her up with Riddle and abuse Riddle's highlight to do my main psy damage.
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>>537218743
retard
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>Motoha quits baseball for a few years
>Starts training again in her s.link
>Walking a few miles almost makes her collapse

What the fuck has this bitch been doing all these years? Being a neet?
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A6 chord is the best investment you can make for your account
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>>537219568
Sorry but I already invested in Tomokoin
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>>537214331
Baseball demands your time all the time. Basically you're expected to only do baseball in Japan if you do baseball. Like you will have no life outside of baseball.
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>>537219568
Shan't be rolling for temu Dorothea.
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>>537219124
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>>537219568
>>537219897
stop shilling your dead series
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>>537220234
I'm not shilling for Persona 5 The Phantom X
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average p5x player
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>>537220313
no, you're shilling the trash that is FE, a series that killed off its entire fanbase with its latest installment
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pov you're trying to put rebellion on dio but you're playing the shittiest game ever made
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>>537221767
holy SEX
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>>537221767
SEX SEX SEX SEX SEX SEX SEX SEX SEX SEX SEX SEX SEX SEX SEX SEX SEX SEX SEX SEX SEX SEX SEX SEX
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>>537221767
Is it true you can't date her?
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>>537221767
>not party member
>just a kaidol
no thanks
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>>537221767
no one is gonna roll this bitch
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>>537221981
she'll be a schizo like yui. you can't date the teacher but you can date the delinquent.
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>>537222214
I'm A6ing her.
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>>537221767
Is she going to be a standard
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>>537222096
What!? Really? Wtf
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>>537221767
GET PREGNANT
GET PREGNANT
GET PREGNANT
GET PREGNANT
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>>537222236
That doesn't make sense.
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>>537221767
I heard she's going to be an elec debuffer. Does that mean Yui will actually be useful to pair her with?
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>>537222583
I would imagine her, Yui, and Chord might be the way to go…
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>>537221767
her mask is like a combination of makoto's with bits of joker's cut out of it?
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>>537222583
>chord schizos making shit up so people roll for her
the absolute state
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>>537223801
Take your meds. I didn't mention Chord at all
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>>537223929
you know who what you are
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>>537221767
so then what was the younger design in the previous thread about?
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>>537220630
ASSHOLE!!!!! im literally 130 pounds with thick shaggy hair and 20/20 vision
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>>537221767
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>>537221767
A sign of a company desperate and close to EOS
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>>537224103
Goro..
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>>537221767
Sexsei
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>>537224586
woops meant to post this in the HSR thread
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Anyone else's guild chat deader than dead?
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>>537225105
Rent free.
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>>537223801
I'm rolling because she's best girl
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>>537221767
muh
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZKXig38I5B0
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>>537225257
Mine is, but we only have a few people and I know 2 of them in real life so no need to use chat
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Bros, I JUST realized you can change the background music tracks.
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>>537219150
She wasn't just walking, she was trying to jog several miles after an extended period without exercise. You need to work up to that shit even if you have talent.
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>he runs faith+love on marian
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>>537218990
What two teams did you use for the last technician battle?
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>>537228520
is this a personal attack
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>>537230161
It's a Persona attack.
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I'm looking forward to Chord's banner, but I'm guaranteed her in 40 pulls and I was hoping to get awarenesses for the rate up 4*s. Feels bad man. Should I do an extra 40 pulls after I get her and hope that I don't get an A1?
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>>537237927
Why would you hope you don't get A1 Chord in 80 pulls? That would be incredible luck.

The rate ups on her banner aren't that great anyway iirc.
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>>537237927
but you want an A1?
that would be nice to have??
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>>537237927
If you really don't want a dupe, then don't pull any more than 40. Chord is definitely worth building pity on all the way to 79 though
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>>537238060
>>537238075
Rumors are that they're releasing Futaba, Haru, and Cherish all at once after the summer series, and I would prefer them over an A1 chord as a f2p.
>>537238518
Ok. 40 seems like a fair compromise.
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>>537221767
Translated trailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GvTRpnMrvfs

>>537224052
>so then what was the younger design in the previous thread about?
It may have been a flashback in her Social Link when she's discussing her delinquent past?
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>>537222583
>>537223801
For the record, the reliable p5x datamining blog says Blitz is, in fact, an Elec Saboteur.
https://p5x-theories.tumblr.com/post/788903988489797632/more-information-about-the-sports-festival
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>>537239559
I wish she had longer hair instead of a mullet
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>>537222583
>Yui
I think you forgot about someone.
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>>537245963
Polydeuces is so ugly, when's the Caesar alt?
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>>537246362
They do use the term "initial persona", so maybe they'll do ultimate personas at some point.
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>>537247451
Then what will Wonder's ultimate persona be? Anton Breivik?
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>>537221767
Why are her tits so big?
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>>537248608
A combination of genetics and environmental factors
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Summer event when
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>>537249057
>persona fans consider this big
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>>537251345
Well it's no Horizon Walker but by Persona standards she's pretty big.
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>>537252243
By real life standards she's average.
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>>537253272
>By real life standards she's average.
just stop
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>>537250547
Probably September 18th
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>>537225257
>Guild chat
I really want to post companio boss strats/tips in the chat to see if the bads will do better with slight direction, but I feel like that's too sweaty. Other then that when I want to discuss persona with 4channers, I just do it here.
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>>537225257
i don't think i've ever opened the chat menu on purpose, so no idea
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>>537259889
Inappropriate message, please re-enter.
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>>537228858
Sorry for late answer, first side is wonder dps using setanta (damaging thru debuff) yaoling, any other debuffer/buffer and minami. Second side is basically ryuji.
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>>537221767
Sexo.
What's her background, she used to be a gang leader or something? She gives that kind of vibe.
Using a ruler as a weapon looks goofy, but whatever.

>>537221981
Yeah.

>>537222236
Yui is an avatar Musubi uses to play online.
The delinquent Katayama is who she used to be in her younger days. You won't date her because she doesn't exist anymore.

>>537224052
Same as Okyann probably.
Maybe she shows a picture of how she looked in her younger days to Wonder and then Wonder goes to town and makes a Phantom Idol out of it.
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>>537225257
Yup, same in my guild.
People were a bit chatty on release day, but it died down very quickly, eventually the chat was wiped out and now it's just permanently stuck on No Messages.
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>>537266943
She looks like she used to be a bosozoku/bike gangster, the way she carries her ruler is like how they carried pipes and other objects for fighting.
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>>537221767
she looks like she teaches sex education
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>>537268781
I need a lesson.
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>>537269541
UNIVEEEEERRSSEEEEEEEEEEE


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9DX_IaXs5YQ
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what stats do i want on my makoto cards?
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>>537270259
https://lufel.net/character.html?name=%EB%A7%88%EC%BD%94%ED%86%A0&lang=en&v=2.5.4
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>>537270259
SP recovery, HP recovery, speed. Run rhe love set on her
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Stream in a few days
>Hopes and dreams
>Realistic expectations
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>>537275196
>hopes and dreams
Sex on the beach with Motoha as she locks her legs behind me and arches her back while moaning my name as I coat her insides with my seed
>Realistic expectations
getting raped by GL management like all the previous streams
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>>537275196
They just need to stop with the 6 month delay bullshit for the other standard units. I'm willing to overlook most of the other bullshit they pulled at this point.
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so getting all of the stars in the velvet trials leaves you at 390/420. where are those other 30
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>>537275196
They should extend the 6 month delay to 12 months.
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>>537276746
theyll add 10 extra technician levels in the future
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>>537275196
>>Hopes and dreams
Removal of the shitty annoying 6 months delay for newer standard 5* chars.

>>Realistic expectations
They won't do it because they would have to compensate all the people who used their gold tickets after the announcement of the 6 months delay and of course they would never do that.
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The delay only lasts until this january you idiots
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>>537225257
Chatting is for women.
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>>537277497
For Marian specifically, dumbass.
>In the Japanese/Western versions, we plan to add them roughly 6 months after their initial release.
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>>537276615
Didn't devs say Phoebe would be added in less than 6 months? Or did I imagine that.
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>>537278515
Just Marian and Phoebe. The rest will go into the standard pool immediately
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>>537278629
I'm gonna need a source chief.
The letter is very clear. It literally says "after their initial release" right there.
It only mentions Marian and Phoebe because those are the only new standard 5* the game has atm.
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>>537221767
>>
Tomoko or Haruna for my provisional Psy unit?
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need a p2 collab just to include the sexiest persona hag into our harem
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>>537279279
People say they had to use both, so building both of them sounds like the way to go. It's either that, or waiting until Futaba or Haru.
Go with Haruna first, and if she's not good enough by herself, work on Tomoko too.
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literally no way to clear the blessing/electric trials without marian and yui. hope you didnt skip them
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>>537279549
Will do that, Haruna is bound to become A6 in the future anyways, with the amount of times that she will spook me
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>>537278629
That's cap. They never confirmed that for future standards yet
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>>537221767
Hag sexo
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>>537279857
If you skipped Yui you can make do with Motoha and Chord. Bless-only is fucked up without Marian, though (or S. Motoha who's coming up).
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>>537275196
>Hopes and dreams
Remove 6 month delay, buff soft pity to be in line with CN, weekly pack price change to be appropriate
>Realistic
They'll probably ignore all those problems and maybe implement the 110 banner and lufel's business plan EX plus the events to get the 60 cognite shards and a weapon
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>>537282829
Speaking of is Akechi fucking useless for velvet trials despite having curse/bless moves? Funny if true
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This is abuse.
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>>537284278
god i want her to punch me until i blackout right as i nut inside her
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>>537284278
Look at those god damn tits
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>>537284278
Fuckers was sleeping during class
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>>537284278
>daydreams of her kicking shadow ass instead of having sex with her
I thought wonder canonically got his desires back?
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>>537284278
>tfw Kumi will never jerk me off and say it was an accident when I cum
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stop liking evil woman
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>>537288061
I'll rehabilitate her with my cock
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>>537284278
She's really hot in teacher form.
Shame about the idol outfit...
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>>537288061
she will dominate me when she senses my masochist desire
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>>537288061
i cant help it... i think it might be genetic
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what are the best 5* weapon to buy from wep shop with paypiggy BP coins?
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>>537288283
true it looks ass especially the hair the only saving grace is the visible tummy
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>>537288475
Leon
Onions
The 4 star support sluts for premium DPS characters that you use (yukimi for fox, vino for makoto etc.)
Flueret
Rest don't matter much. Just pick based on who you use morr
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>>537288659
is leon actually good as sustain? I've been neglecting him because his shield is ass
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>>537288475
iirc limited weapons become an option later. so you should just save for those
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>>537288785
No. He's a buffer and an excellent one especially for a 4 star.
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>>537288939
They cost 20 coins and won't be a thing for over a year.
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>>537289093
Cool, you'll have 20 coins in a year to buy one
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>>537288785
>>537288995
Leon is the clickbait screenshot buffbitch of the start of this game.
The "let's put Leon in every party with an Atk dps" even though he eats an entire party slot to do nothing but buff every single turn with all his turns... when you could just use a 2nd dps for more downs, crits, better distributed damage against adds, debuffs, etc.
Basically right now he's for Makotowhales to pad.
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>>537288995
Just that there's basically no point in using him unless you like Skull. All the other DPS have their own friend.
Well, the wonder dps shit we have currently is an exception I guess.
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>>537289243
Nah bro, you're not seeing the big picture.
Granny to debuff.
Leon to buff.
Then huge Makoto numbers, the biggest Makoto numbers you've ever seen.
Which is honestly kind of fair, but as our accounts mature I feel like this will fall off significantly compared to a 2nd dps of some kind since the game's mechanics generally seem to favor multiple dps who can act.
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>>537289613
and then the boss takes a turn and kills somebody
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>>537289151
Yeah bro, jokers weapon a year after his shill period is gonna be so helpful for your account.
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>>537289902
nah mate just reset until you dodge every single attack
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>>537288061
Good women are boring.
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>>537289902
And then you build your characters correctly and throw norn on wonder and suddenly you're fine
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>>537289613
My Makoto has like 8000 ATK in combat already. Leon's buff will barely do shit.
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>>537289902
>>537289983
tbf for most content Healbitch Wonder + Bit Titty Imuoto can get you through a lot of damage.
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>>537290107
norn's sub 2k shields don't seem to matter much when boss AoEs you actually need to worry about hit for 7-9k
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>>537290212
Build your wonder correctly.
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>>537290151
Are you retarded
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>>537290286
>use leon for big number
>don't use the arc knife for big number
>use the shield knife for little number

I wanted big number bro
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Only on /P5X/ will people unironically say Leon is trash. No wonder you retards rank sub 200 on the companio leaderboard.
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>>537290212
>>537290286
>Build your wonder correctly.
The only building you can do is capped Schema... you can't Rev Card on him.
Which is why I understand how Wonder probably ends up in the Buff/Debuff Bitch role
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>>537290484
But what if I max all the relevant rewards and DON'T play a shit character I don't like and DON'T use the most boring bitch youtube shill clickbait "playstyle" I also don't like.
Like this fag is here sucking some 6ft tall mutant shota's cock, while other people are having fun, and he didn't even get more rewards from it!
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>>537290402
No. I just use Wonder for something he's actually good at. Buffing ATK. Instead of hoping I can somehow live the damage in this game without a dedicated sustain.

Leo's buff won't do much of anything.
>but the CRIT DAMAGE
Yeah, if you crit. But Makoto isn't exactly a super crit related character. 0 crit in her kit. Yes that doesn't make it terrible, but obviously a crit damage buff is really good on someone who conveniently always crits.. right?

Leon is for Skull.
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>>537287658
>daydreams of her kicking shadow ass instead of having sex with her
holy baste wonder
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>>537290771
You will do more damage replacing one of your attack cards with a crit rate card.
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>>537290770
Don't talk about gameplay then. If you're a shitter doing the bare minimum for endgame then you can use hypercarry tomoko or other dumb shit.
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>>537287658
Because he has sex with her in reality
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Ok haha jokes over. You can stop pretending to like this game and just go back to Honkai Star Rail already, anon.
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>>537291595
Oh look, it's a falseflag shitposter trying to start a general war. Again.
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>>537291595
Maybe when slophoreus ends.
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>>537291595
>>537291874
you both should kys
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>>537291971
I enjoy both games just fine, I just hate the discord baiters.
Sparkle Moko Love btw
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>>537291149
If only the devs weren't gay and lame
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>>537292365
It's almost like this is a gacha game that caters to the lowest common denominator.
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>>537292143
if anyone had doubts of your shit taste before, those doubts have now been put to rest.
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>>537292503
Tourists will seethe over Yumi and Mio romance though they just decided to not romance the teacher this time
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>>537292503
>It's almost like
faggot
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>>537275196
To add onto my previous post
>Realistic
They will also likely outline speedup which would hopefully mean skipping dead content updates such as the one that just reran Marian and added the first 14 levels of the Miyu social link by combining that with another update.
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this place has become such a shithole
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>>537293241
the first two weeks of /p5x/ were so good
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>>537293241
This is where the f2p retards who don't understand the game congregate. The spenders who are chill and good at the game are all in closed discords.
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>>537293241
It's been like this for the past several weeks.

t. Always been here
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>>537293561
why does she look so much older in her pfp
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>>537293732
>This is where the f2p retards who don't understand the game congregate.
It's funny, because if you paid attention to the pictures people show here or even the posts people write constantly berating F2Ps, you'd know there's a number of money spenders here.
Hell, you're visibly one such retard yourself.

Damn it sure feels very fucking good to be an F2P and be smarter than you.
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what triggered the dumb ass f2poor
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>>537294123
Post your SOS score, your companio score, and velvet trials.
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Spending money on a gacha is not smart.
I shouldn't need to tell you that.
You can keep yapping "wah wah f2poor" or whatever, but you will never not be a retard for literally wasting your money.
Deal with it, lol.
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>>537294309
NTA but high score is a sign of being a whale not being smart lmao in fact it'd probably be an indicator that you're retarded for whaling on a game that actively nerfed it's rates and increased the price of weekly packs. The "smartest" spenders would buy the monthly pack at most because nothing else really has the pull value.
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>>537293241
Yes, the indians and malaysians became able to play the game
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did 25 trumpeteer took a couple tries but did it
maybe for the next bosses i will go for level 40 or whatever they come up with
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>>537297523
gz
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so all the skeleton personas like Matadors, Riders, etc don't get censored in China? I thought they had a skeleton censorship in games or something
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>>537298285
yeah its weird cause they censored the curse symbol but not those, not sure why desu
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it's so tiresome sometimes
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>>537298285
They don't mind dead spanish people
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>>537296665
break the stinky spell
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>>537297582
thank you gz anon i appreciate you
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>The in-game NPCs are smarter than Tomokofag
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>>537300985
>doing good
*sigh* I will write this off as the translator projecting her bias that high school students are stupid.
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>>537298285
>don't get censored in China?
They do.
https://megamitensei.fandom.com/wiki/Red_Rider?file=P5X+Red+Rider.png
https://megamitensei.fandom.com/wiki/White_Rider?file=P5X+White+Rider.png
https://megamitensei.fandom.com/wiki/Black_Rider?file=P5X+Black+Rider.png
Megaten wiki doesn't have Pale Rider's censored artwork but it's probably similar to the other riders.
Matador was censored too.
https://megamitensei.fandom.com/wiki/Matador?file=P5X+Matador.png
And Hell Biker.
https://megamitensei.fandom.com/wiki/Hell_Biker?file=P5X+Hell+Biker.png
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>>537302407
lmao turned them all into Ghostface or Casey Jones.
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ware wa nanji
nanji wa ware
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What cards should I farm for next bros? I've got a full orange set for Makoto, Vino/Onions, and Ann. I don't have Fox or Marian so I feel like I have orange sets for all the characters I care to get good cards for. Should I just start chasing optimal stat spreads for Makoto or something?
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>>537300985
Our lovey dovey sex with our canon wife being uninterrupted sure helped her get better!
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>>537301321
This isn’t a translation mistake this is regular everyday english guptajeet.
If anything it shows the writers speak it a lot more than you do
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>>537303595
Your Leon? Your prefarm for whichever character you are rolling for next?
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tomohoe only ever has sex with rail road tracks
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>>537304306
Isn't Leon's best set not in global yet? Same with Chord, so I don't know if I should prefarm for her. Maybe it's still worth it anyway.
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For characters whose skills scale off of something other than ATK, their Revelation main stats should focus on that stat, right? Like I can ignore ATK% cards on Shun and only aim for DEF% as much as I can.
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>>537305702
you couldntve made a better choice mokofriend
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>>537304306
Nobody uses Leon. He's actually garbage.
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>>537305861
Shun scales from HP not Def, though as he is prone to taking hits he obviously won't mind any Def either.
Honestly, everyone should likely want some amount of HP and Def.
And I've seen Control Revs get mentioned for Granny and such, some 4-stars who are supporting more so to enable others, since it's more about them enabling than their personal damage so making them a little bulkier helps with random incoming hits.
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>>537305861
if youre unsure you can check lufel.net or click the magnifying glass on the characters profile to check what they want stats wise
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>>537306176
The only contenders don't even have romances yet in CN.
Blame the chinks, I'm not gonna wait forever.

>>537306223
Holy crap, a based Motohafag.
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>>537306565
Yeah I bet there’s a lot of “white” collars in the call centre
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>>537306176
>>537306429
Oh whoops I misread that as "could've"
Kind of glossed over since no one uses a double contraction like that.
How long til Summer Moko?
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>>537305861
Do not check lufel net, the dev is actually an idiot
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>>537306861
really? whats wrong with it
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>>537306861
kill yourself you fucking idiot
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MCEAam9_ihY
after checking out this video im not sure what to do with chord, a lot of people say her weapons amazing and her a1’s really good but im not sure i agree, might just get her a0 or maybe a0r0
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>>537306960
Ignore the retard.
He's been talking shit about lufel.net for the past 2 or 3 threads.
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>>537305702
>You're like a sister to me, Tomoko.
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>>537307409
>said by a guy who has a random bitty titty girl calling him onii-chan for some reason
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>>537307409
No the other option is "I'll stay with you until you get better" which is an unnecessarily brutal rejection and par for the course for Persona rejection lines
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>>537303478
Casey Jones is freaking sweet.
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>>537306960
Ugly UI and terrible tier list, its just awful.
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>>537306772
>nobody uses a double contraction
You wouldn't've noticed either way
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>>537307179
that +15% crit rate is reaaaaaally good anon, it's one of the most sought-after stats for dps for a reason. that being said, I wouldn't say it's "needed", if it doesn't interest you and you want to get more characters instead of A1 chord then don't go for it. get her weapon however, you will most likely regret it otherwise.
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>>537307714
we need more rejections on par with "stand there and watch rise cry" or "you have everybody else" desu
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can't wait for a1 chord to boost my sepia and closer! Maybe I can get 2 stars in velvet trials!!!!
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>>537306960
Dev's tier list is retarded and puts summer closer as low tier and A6 yui is t1 among other retarded decisions. Him putting summer closer so low triggered an autist
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>>537308996
thanks a lot, ill consider it. we have plenty of time anyway
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>>537309841
sugoi-desu ne
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>>537309934
All I'm getting from this is that some Motohafags are on the level of reddit Makotofags.
No 5-stars so far have been egregiously weak, and only Makoto seems like an outlier in strength and I can't even say how much of that is the devs being very blatant Nukefags.
Except the current bar hag nav destined for standard, she seems quite underwhelming.
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>>537310029
Getting awakenings is whale bait much like weapons are. I'd recommend spending all your coins on her weapon to see if you get it and getting A0. Eventually during the first anni they should give us one 2.0.0 or before character and one 3.0.1 and before character which you could spend on chord if none of the other characters or their awarenesses suit you so far.
>>537310692
Summer Motoha seems to be top tier according to prydwen which I know people think is shit but I highly doubt they're that far off.
>Makoto
I think her strength is likely due to her being the only limited single target dps for a while so they want to make sure she's always good whereas they can powercreep sweepers a bit slower.
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Just don't listen to Lufel and their dev bias for Tomoko. Any other site is unironically better
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>>537307179
her phantom outfit kinda sucks. alot of the OCs outfits kinda really suck.
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>>537311117
>their dev bias for Tomoko
You need to take your meds dude.

>Any other site is unironically better
There's only one, Prydwen, and it literally isn't.
Listen, you can stay retarded and not use the page that was made by a top KR player if you want, but don't expect anyone to follow you.
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Koreans are not to be trusted.
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I trust them much more than a visibly retared person who talks out of their ass without showing proof to backup any claims desu.
Cope, seethe, mald and so on.
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>>537311117
prydwenchads keep on winning
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>>537312607
miss pink elf is such a forced character
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>>537312607
Cease
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>>537312607
continue
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>>537311117
kek anti tomoko melty
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>>537312607
this is a maplestory character
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>>537311098
>Summer Motoha seems to be top tier according to prydwen which I know people think is shit but
It is.
They're infamous for artificially propping up males or whoever reddit likes, and coming up with convoluted ways to tier characters according to their biases.

>>537311098
>I think her strength is likely due to her being the only limited single target dps for a while
Yui?
And Yui isn't even bad, but it's very obvious Nuke is giga fuckin shilled.
The 4 basic elements all do their 1 element thing.
Psy has conditions that basically never work. Bless doesn't even have a damage dealing component to its elemental effect.
Curse is like the basic 4.
Meanwhile Nuke is just all 4 of the basic 4 combined, and better.

So while I'm sure Summer Motoha is entirely solid, she's hindered a lot by her element right out the gate providing no offense benefits from said element.
So maybe just maybe she's kind of on the mediocre side.
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>that feel when King Frost stuck at level 80 because I'm too autistic to use Orlovs on him instead of waiting for more repression medals
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>>537303595
Depends on your units/who you plan on pulling for, but imo generally speaking, Truth/Prosperity > Control/Renewal > Courage/Strife > Power/Victory = Love/Opulence >>> Peace/Hindrance.
>T/P
Truth for Makoto if you pulled her, Prosperity for Leon and Chord. Great units, great power boosts, both sets are strong so there's no risk of losing out to mediocre cards.
>C/R
Control is excellent and good for a lot of "supporting" units e.g. Key and Vino. Renewal is pretty ass unless you have Yui but Control is so good it still ends up probably the 2nd best farm.
>C/S
Courage for Ryuji, Strife for Ann. If you have them and want them to be stronger, both are good sets so you can't go wrong here.
>P/V
Power is generic and pretty good but not BiS for anyone afaik. Victory is for wind, Fleuret is a solid unit so this is a decent choice if you really want to build him up and you'll get some generic Power cards as a bonus.
>L/O
Love is for Lufel/Morgana, if you use Marian as your primary sustain this might not be a worthwhile farm. However if you have Yusuke this probably jumps up to the 3rd best farm.
>P/H
Don't bother. Peace isn't any good right now except for Miyu and she'll be using the upcoming navi specific set when it drops so farming these for her is pointless, meanwhile Hindrance is for only Joker and we got a free gold set so he should already be good to go here.
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>>537312607
It would be funny just to gatekeep some people who don't belong here.
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>>537313437
>propping up males
I've only known them from Eversoul so I had no idea
>Yui
Oh shit I forgot about her. I guess you're right. Makoto even had the privilege of adding an entirely new 4* to support her when usually 4*s are only added with new palace drops. Speaking of Yui is severely lacking good support but Makoto's supports are top tier 4*s
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>>537313651
Prosperity is such a fucking bait set btw.
You're literally throwing away even having a Rev Card set at all, to speed 1 Highlight up very slightly 1 time.
This is the problem with metaslurpers, they just have this brainless echo chamber with zero objectivity. They don't look at useless fucking garbage and say "Man, this shit fucking SUCKS in literally all relevant content where the fights go for potentially dozens of turns".
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>>537314013
Motoha and uzume are both solid and guitar girl is literally next, what are you on about?
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>>537314296
I don't know what you're even saying here. How are you throwing away having a rev card set by prioritizing Prosperity? You get a prosperity set or two then you can move on to the other ones. We have a week to farm these cards you know. Also prosperity is good for Leo too, the priority I gave is mostly centered around "how many characters benefit from this farm, and how good are they?" If you don't care about Leo or Chord and you didn't pull Makoto then, sure, skip prosperity.
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>>537314545
Compared to leo/vino they suck ass. Is Chord even that good for her considering her highlight doesn't do damage?
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>>537314013
Fortunately, the game just kind of spread out the element weaknesses if for nothing else but the damage scaling aspect of them.
Yui at least compliments the 4-star Motoha in Electric coverage on AOE vs a single target.

Ultimately, that's what will usually matter more. What element(s) is [thing you're doing] shilling?
And then there will be the occasional stuff like the Kaneshiro farm where it's just "bring big unga bunga single target" where you'll have Makoto competing with Yui or Kasumi.
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>>537314846
>Elements
Yeah it's a very lock and key design and with so many elements and rolls it's easy for characters to not overlap as much
>Kaneshiro farm
I completed 25 pretty easily with F2P units but for higher stuff yeah
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>>537312607
is there another gacha going down the drain?
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>>537314693
>How are you throwing away having a rev card set by prioritizing Prosperity?
Have you actually read the effect of the set?
2pc is damage reduction on oneself which is cute but generally not important.
4pc is a one time 25% (like 2 actions) worth of Highlight charge 1 time... basically your Highlights will come out one half of one turn cycle sooner. And that's it. There's no other effect. Once it's done that, it's over.

You may as well equip Power which you got a lot of for free, and several alternative sets coming sooner rather than later I'd imagine.
It is the epitome of metaslurper bait that ensares retards.
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I don't come to this board very much so I only noticed this recently, but /vg/ in general has a huge problem with people who return to a new line for every sentence. For some odd reason, people who type like that always say the most retarded shit ever with absolute confidence. It's not even a /p5x/-only problem and I don't see it on any other board, wtf.
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>>537315714
You should kill yourself now.
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>>537315714
I'm with you bro. Ignore that guy above me; he's mad you called him out.
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>>537315714
What you're saying is true, strangely I've noticed that as well. He's right about the card set though, it is quite useless.
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>>537315323
Oh, you're just retarded. Carry on.
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>>537315323
Post your SOS score.
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Which unit is better long term? Summer Motoha or Sumire.

For reference, my only limited units I have are Joker and Makoto. I skipped Yui and fox and refuse to waste gems on "standard" units that were delayed for 6 months due to Sega scum tactics.
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>>537316331
Sumire.
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>>537314693
>>537316162
>>537315323
Oh and just to illustrate the funniest part of how shit Prosperity is, depending on everyone's Speed in the cycles, you may end up holding one or more Highlights (esp on Makoto for example if her Crash Out isn't up til her next turn), entirely invalidating the 4pc bonus.
It does give 8% party damage from its Space Revs but part of that is wasted on the buffer themselves, some on Wonder, etc. It's something that's a cope set for now, but farming it over using the free Power cards is just utterly pointless.
You may as well chase better stats on your main carries (including farming this set ironically if said carry is Makoto since her set is with it), but you shouldn't be farming Truth&Prosperity unless you're trying to optimize a Makoto.
You should likely just be throwing generic farm at Control if you have no preference.

>>537315714
It's called organization, separating points into digestible and coherent components. Rather than just being some fucking block of text retard who shoves like 10 things into a big tl;dr wall.
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>>537314296
>all relevant content where the fights go for potentially dozens of turns".
This is why you are retarded, in SOS, trials and guild fights you have an average of 3~6 rotation, one extra use of HL is significant. Now what is all that """relevant content""" that goes for dozens of turns?
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>>537315714
most autistic post of this thread award
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sex with merope
impregnating merope
getting strangled by merope after being seduced by motoha in a bikini
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>>537316331
Please do not refer to characters by their real names when you are discussing their combat forms. Use their codenames.
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>>537316567
Shut the fuck up nigger. I'll call them how I want them.
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>>537316493
>This is why you are retarded, in SOS, trials and guild fights you have an average of 3~6 rotation, one extra use of HL is significant.
Is it an extra use of Highlight?
You have to end the fight 1-2 actions away from a Highlight to get an extra.
AND the Highlight cooldown has to be up for someone relevant, not just Onions.
Critical thought was never a trait of metaslupers.

>Now what is all that """relevant content""" that goes for dozens of turns?
Depends on the nature of things. There are bosses in companio which have no boss action timer but instead it's just "2 turns after you trigger their down phase". In which case you should probably even sandbag to make sure everything you want up is, in fact, up. And you'll never squeeze any extra Highlights into that down phase anyway, especially not due to 25% charge at battle start.
But keep doing what the clickbait youtuber tells you to.
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>>537316113
I don't care for Prosperity either but he has the exact same arrogance as the other "return to a new line for every sentence" posters. I don't even think it's a big conspiracy or the same guy everywhere I just found it weird.
>>537316556
I'm flattered.
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>>537317096
Please follow the unofficial rules we all agree on.
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You two realize you can have multiple card sets and switch based on what's better suited for that particular fight? Right?
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I hope after Chord comes out this guy posts his guild boss/SOS scores with his inexplicable Growth/Power Chord build. I'm sure it will mog all of these clueless metaslurpers who have been playing this game for like 2 years on KR.
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>>537315714
Is that not an indicator of someone being a mobile poster?
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>>537317247
But for right now when we aren't just throwing stamina at shit we don't need, you should probably be farming Opulence for Yusuke, Truth for Makoto, Fire for Ann, Electric for Yui, etc.
Instead of a do-nothing set to cope with your buffers who just want stats since their sets all suck anyway, and you can literally toss free Power cards on them. Thus the recommendation to farm Prosperity is simply moronic. Get your core who have good sets good card in their good sets.
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>>537317127
Is it an extra use of Highlight?
If only there were a meta-defining unit with the gimmick of giving extra HL at the start of the fight
>AND the Highlight cooldown has to be up for someone relevant, not just Onions.
If only there were a meta-defining unit with the gimmick of resetting HL cooldowns
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Stamina is infinite and "wasting" some this early into the game will mean practically nothing over the long term. Next.
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>>537317350
They’re just redditors who got triggered when called out for their reddit spacing so they try to hide it
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>>537317712
It's not stamina, it's the double card event which is capped to 5 per day. That's why people are arguing over what's optimal.
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>>537317923
Reddit spacing is a gap between the new lines retard
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>>537317657
But you didn't address the point at all.
Is the 4pc giving you an extra and relevant Highlight?
And the answer is
>only if the boss dies exactly 1-2 actions before the next natural Highlight AND the currently available characters to use a Highlight within this 1-2 action window includes someone relevant
Elsewise, the 4pc did literally nothing.
It's a clickbait youtuber's minmax optimization that most likely did not actually contribute anything to the result, they're just a fucking moron. But a moron leading a bunch of other morons results in a "meta".
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Also, wasting your stamina when you could instead not and spend it in a smarter way is obviously retarded.
Next.
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>>537313329
>anti tomoko
that applies every single person with atleast one brain cell
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>>537317272
You don't put Growth/Power on Chord, retard, you put Growth/Renewal to boost her Elec (electric) skills.
Pair her up with Ryuji (he has the highest attack stat in the game, you can put Growth/Power on him to make him even stronger) for maximum damage on her skill 1 (who scales on your partner's ATK stat).
Simple as. You don't even need her five stars weapon. Or her four stars one, it's all whalebait metafag bullshit.
But metaslurpers will insist you use her as a "support".
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>>537318020
It's not "a youtuber", it's literally everyone who's played KR. If you don't care about score trials and/or you aren't pulling Chord, then sure, feel free to ignore meta. But it is meta, not just one youtuber who really likes Chord or something. Bro crashing out over nothing.
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>>537318119
It applies strictly to homosexuals!
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>>537318161
Oh no, he's REALLY retarded.
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>>537315714
>>537317350
>>537317923
>>537317982
"Reddit spacing" is just a product of splitting lines as though one was in another typing program because the default tiny 4chan box makes even relatively short sentences look like walls of text.
And splitting lines like this for the sake of organization is simply a way to avoid actual walls of text due to being a verbose individual.
Notably the retards seething over this are not actually contributing anything of merit to a discussion at hand, and are resulting to the ancient yiddish ritual of bringing up some other unrelated and irrelevant shit to idk "win" an argument, I guess, not on any actual point of merit or fact.
Which, if anything, is far more telling redditor behavior than line spacing.
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chord single handedly ruined discussion of this game on every fucking platform you can do so
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>537318161
>Chord
>Growth/Renewal to boost her Elec (electric) skills.
Based retard. Chord's biggest strengths are her support skills and HL.
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>>537318020
Are you retarded? Chord weapon gives HL at the start of the battle, you can literally start with 100% gauge at high R, and she resets the cooldowns, so any character is going to be available
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I hope all of you lose your Chord 50/50s and quit the game so I don't need to read your retardation anymore.
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>>537318340
I always drag the text box out to make sure my post isn't too long why don't people just do that? Is it not possible on mobile?
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At this point it might be a good idea to just filter Chord and Ayaka Sakai desu.
It gets tiresome to read basically anything about her, specially here.
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>>537318340
>look like walls of text.
>-- LINE BREAK--
>And splitting lines like
Now you're just baiting.
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>>537318165
>NUUUU THEY PLAYED KR
And?
Again that isn't actually arguing literally any point of fact. That's just you being a stupid slurping fucking zombie resorting to an appeal to authority.
4pc Prosperity literally does nothing unless:
>The boss dies within an exact 1-2 action window
>Wherein a relevant damage dealer's Highlight is up
>And said Highlight would end the boss 1-2 actions sooner
>AND all of that is only relevant if this somehow clears a reward threshold you would otherwise fail by being exactly 1-2 actions too slow
That's how little your dumbass fucking 4pc card set matters.
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>>537318434
It's literally just this one sperg who I'm assuming can't afford to pull for Chord so now he's coping trying to convince himself she isn't good.
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>>537318645
Laziness. Pretty sure box size and position resets. And I can't be bothered to do that shit per reply.
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That's it. I'm pulling A1 Makoto. I refuse to pull Chord now.
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>That's it. I'm pulling A1 Makoto. I refuse to pull Chord now.
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>>537318825
I'm at 130ish pulls right now. Obviously with the Palace and banner duration, that more than guarantees.
I simply don't care.
And again, weirdly, there's a whole lot of "it just is" and no actual concrete points to be found.
Bosses need to die within a very specific window that divides a reward threshold which you fail if you do not [do all the shit described], and that is simply exceedingly rare.
Everything else is just e-celebs flexing and showing off and retards copying what the e-celeb told them creating an echo chamber of retards.
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>>537319108
> no actual concrete points to be found.
You keep ignoring Chords kit, even when people explained to you
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>>537318340
I was more confused and curious than angry and I wasn't even in an argument. I think you're getting a bit too defensive over pressing Enter after every new sentence.
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Actual, no-shit schizo: >>537319108
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I don’t understand why you fags are so obsessed with numbers and shit. If she makes my dick hard, I pull. That’s it.
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FUCK ALL OF YOU
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>>537319216
>You keep ignoring Chords kit, even when people explained to you
>"BUT YOU CAN START WITH 2 HIGHLIGHTS"
And you now fucked up Makoto's 1st Crash Out window and full debuffs may not even be up for her underpowered Highlights.
Yui doesn't even do anything with doubles.
I don't believe Ryuji's buff stacks.
Yusuke is more or less as well off.
I forget if Joker's stacks have a cap or not but he's probably the most positive example.
The thing you think you're doing that's so amazing... is often conditionally just not half as amazing as you think it is. Especially if the character's kit takes a turn or so to get online, which may mean you're better off burning Highlights on supporting characters ASAP, and that's fine.
But the simple fact is the end result STILL needs to be that this achieved something very specific in terms of rewards. Elsewise, you're just getting the same outcome.

>>537319403
>I don’t understand why you fags are so obsessed with numbers and shit. If she makes my dick hard, I pull. That’s it.
Finally someone talks some fucking sense here.
Pull for dick.
Pull for fun.
And go pull a Shiho if your pull incentive is someone else told you to.
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anti-metafags care so little about the meta that they WILL remind you how much they don't care about meta characters and meta sets and meta teams and meta tactics 24/7 even if you agree with them. they WILL remind you how much fun they're having pulling for the sixth buffer in a row and how much they don't care that it was yet another buffer.
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>>537319442
What do you plan to use your free awareness shard on?
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Game moves way too fast for me to go meta. Like we barely got any time to actually farm our characters up to the content that they expect us to clear.
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>>537320939
True. I'm struggling just to try and keep up with the pleb rewards, like getting all the space cards in the Companio boss battles, but not the final reward without cards.
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Do we get the 110 option for chord or does that come later
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>>537321236
fuck no
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>>537320939
I'm planning on getting a good ST DPS, a good AoE one, good supports and then choosing by who I like the most.
>>537321236
We don't know, there's no announced date.
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>>537320939
If the devs aren't retarded they'll also give us materials and ap compensation with speedup so we can actually level the characters we're pulling
>>537321236
I hope so purely because I think if they ever buff soft pity it'll be with the 110 banner being introduced
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>>537321308
Do we know that? They said it's coming earlier
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>>537320258
>projects this hard when every 50 posts someone has to remind everyone they're saving for Chord
>projects this hard when the above reminder comes with the additional reminder that they have no width or coverage to their account, so they'll be seething when they have to use base Kotone for Ice content
>projects this hard when he's already planned out Futaba and a 2nd Nav, ie several buffers in a row
If you could fit anymore Projection into there, I'd swear we were getting a FSN collab with Archer.
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I just think she’s cute and want another electric girl to go with Yui and Motoha
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>>537321801
Patrician motivation
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>>537321801
Her tummy is hard to say no to and her hat is cute
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>>537321458
what projection? it literally happened ITT you fucking retard. you do understand that there is a difference between "i pull for who i think is hot" and insecure faggots who argue for hours on end about how ackshually none of this matter because everyone will be powercrept in a year? profoundly stupid third point too.
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gg.
That was far easier than the FHK and Asura.
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>>537322750
gz
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>>537322750
gz
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>>537322750
Your ann build is garbage
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>>537322750
gg
i'm too stupid to kill asura with my fire team
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>>537321801
Do they even work well with chord? Motoha or Yui's highlights don't seem like they benefit from being able to use them that much more often.
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>>537323475
I mean sure they do
Having 100% uptime on YUI’s is great it makes the randomness of her nonexistant while upping her damage a bunch. And Motoha’s increases elec damage for the whole party, while guaranteeing shock, which is nice too
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>>537037463
>Netori - 100001547
>Tsumi - 100013554
>Motoha Slammers - 100016392
>Fun Island - 100030397
>Motoha Lovers - 100032970
>Waifu Slammer - 100040044
>Thanks, Doc! - 100035622
>Four Chins - 100055671
Which one of these will carry my f2poor ass?
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