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Latest:
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>3 card types: Impact, Rush, and Boost
>CAA/TAA have been renamed as Action Skills
>If you collect all 7 dragon balls in-game and summon Shenron, you'll pull an guaranteed Super Rare card
>Avatars can also be Namekians or Fridges
>Avatars can also equip accessories and level up a skill tree
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Kakarot:
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Rest in Peace, Akira Toriyama (3/1/2024)
Thank you

LAST TIME ON /dbg/: >>536292243
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>>537038131
cute!
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>>537038131
DB needs more incest
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>>537038676
Ewww.
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>>537038531
Based!
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Dragon Ball GT Won.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-A2hzVsXHI
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>>537040158
>Omega Shenron remains as the last DB Final Boss ever
Super had 10 years to try and change that and they wasted it meandering in between Buu and EoZ looool
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One of the best climaxes to a DB movie.
https://youtu.be/Ow70RdhA580
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>>537041108
>Future Trunks negged the same attack with one hand
lol it was a filler scene so I think he technically shouldn't be able to do that, anime buffed him far too much. Still cool though.
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>>537040476
Every db sequel has been so shit.
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We are so dead the only thing to talk about is sex and fan fiction we hate
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>>537045429
That's not true. There's like three or four people that talk about a fanfic they like.
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>>537045429
You think this is dead? We used to be mostly kept alive by bumps and regularly archiving.
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Can a pirated version of Xenoverse 2 be downgraded for Revamp?
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>>537040476
Jiren won
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...'t be returning in any real capacity.
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We only love Adult Nakedku here.
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>>537049293
Look at that pathetic micropenis
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https://x.com/Nyoh972/status/1961155915073159233
How do you respond without sounding mad?
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>>537050195
nice sword
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>>537050195
>ichigo singlehandedly bringing stage transitions to SZ
my HERO...
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>>537043667
nah
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Ultra Ego in games when?
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>>537055471
Fortunately, never.
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>>537055626
Why not? It's literally just Vegeta with purple hair and no eyebrows.
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I still can't believe Toyo seriously just ripped off spictubers who wanted Vegeta to have a GoD mode like Toppo, except he made it even uglier
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You know, going back to see Heroes depict the Xeno Saiyans' Super Saiyan 4 as an AU equivalent to Blue feels pretty strange now that it's (presumably) actually weaker than God if we are to take Super and Daima as being in the same continuity (or at least in the broad strokes).
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>>537055471
>>537055975
They really would have to first go through Moro before doing UE. They're not just jumping to Granolah's arc that was just an extension of Moro's (since 7-3 kickstarted it all)
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>>537057421
Consider that Trunks got God instead of 4 and wasn't exactly depicted as any weaker than the likes of the other Xeno folks.
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>>537057421
Hell no, SS4 is not weaker than God, they never said that. Just another headcanon that fans made up because they wanna believe it's before BoG, except in truth it's a completely different timeline altogether.

SSG is an outdated form, nobody from the official staff will ever come up and say that "ackshually its stronger than the latest form we're gonna merchandise for the next decade".
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>>537057671
>>537057748
Who do I believe...?
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>>537058186
Up to you. I choose to believe that SS4 is stronger simply because i like how the form looks.
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>>537048772
I mean, you could probably just download the right version in the first place, which is 1.22 I believe, but I also recall some revamp specific patch accidentally ending up broken with cracks
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>>537058186
Look, I'm just saying, trying to look to Heroes for any proof one way or the other is going to produce a lot of moments where the comparative strengths are very iffy. You can say certain things for absolute certain, like how Super Full Power Saiyan 4 Goku lost to Ultra Instinct Goku, but that's still going to get people arguing one way or the other because of the varied depictions of each and every character in the manga, games, and anime.
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>>537059012
>Super Full Power Saiyan 4 Goku
Sorry, *Super Full Power Saiyan 4 Limit Breaker Goku
Gotta remember the full title, it's what's on the cards
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>>537057748
>completely different timeline altogether.
People say that and while there are some snarls in continuity there, most of them could easily be explained away with a few bonus panels. If Toyotaro bothered to explain why Kaio's planet came back and how Future Mai was wished younger despite being from a timeline where that made no sense, neither of which the anime staff bothered to explain despite having more content to fill, I'm willing to be he'd be able to the same for the inconsistencies between Super and Daima.

In the the case of arguably the biggest difference between them, Kaioshin's fusion being undone at least four years earlier in Daima than depicted in Super, could easily be explained as a joke where Trunks and Goten steal the earrings from Kaioshin and Kibito to try that type of fusion while Boo is on his longass nap or something else that would cause them to refuse in time for BoG. Really, I can't actually think of anything in Daima that stands in the way of harmonising with Super as badly as GT's version of SS4 or Heroes' depiction of the Demon Realm. Even if it was that bad, there's nothing to say Toyotaro's version of the events had Kaioshin and Kibito unfuse.
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>>537057748
>except in brain dead retarded headcanon it's a completely different timeline altogether despite Super stuff literally showing up and making me cut myself*
Fixed it for you.
>>537061306
>People say that
No, people don't say that, a micro handful of autists online say that.
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>>537057421
It's all marketing. In the shows via old scaling and via some guidebooks SS4 was weaker than God.
The only source for SS4 and Blue/UI being equivalent is really only Heroes. It really shouldn't be used as a primary source.
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>It really shouldn't be used as a primary source.
SS1 Broly? He's Jiren level. SS4 Dark Broly Limit Breaker mogs the verse.
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>>537048817
sweatie...
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>>537058186
First anon is talking about DBH, where Trunks' SSG was up there with SS4s and SSBs.

>>537057748
>they never said that
It's more about the impression it gives. BoG had Goku saying that SSG is a world he never imagined it existed, and this is after he dismissed fusing with Vegeta to fight Beerus. Meanwhile, SS4 in Daima is definitely strong, but Goku doesn't comment on its power, and while he was stronger than Gomah, he couldn't kill him...

>>537062964
>The only source for SS4 and Blue/UI being equivalent is really only Heroes.
Sparking Zero also pushes that, since SS4 and SSB have the same DP, and at least when it comes to normal attacks they do roughly the same damage. Which's funny, I hear Heroes initially put SSG and SS4 on the same ballpark before SSB was created, and when SSB and SS4 Gokus fought each other, in the arcade SSB Goku won, but the adaptations had them roughly on the same level, and later the arcade didn't push SS4 as weaker outside of UI.
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>>537063674
Yeah but Broly's power is maximum. It's an unfair comparison.
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>>536707219
4th one done!
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>>537065516
can always appreciate a good videl butt
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>>537064106
SS4 remains a popular form in videogames and merchandising, so they have to make it able to keep up with newer forms to justify it still being around so much
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>>537063674
>SS1 Broly? He's Jiren level
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King Kai should've been retranslated to Lord Kai.
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>>537065516
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kBxw1zouzaA
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>>537067304
Marketing drives so much of the series now. THis goes for every corporation desu. I miss passion.
>>537065516
Why is Gohan there. Is he a cuck?
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>>537069180
No. The Great Saiyaman is tho
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>>537069180
he doesn't look pleased, so he's not a cuck he's just getting cucked
or he would be if OUR HERO goku took videl up on it, which of course he would not
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>>537069735
>or he would be if OUR HERO goku took videl up on it, which of course he would not
>Goku respects marital boundaries and temptations
A true HEROIC ROLEMODEL...
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>>537065516
now this is a in character Goku
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>>537065516
Insanely based
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While I'm still working on requests, I'll collect some from this thread too! Safe or Unsafe for Work
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>>537088187
Videl "training" with goku while he is oblivious to the act while encouraging videl , that ass you drew was amazing i need to see some nsfw from you, its okay if you dont want tho
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>>537088187
DBS SH Goten meets Ribrianne and the other magical girls from U2. He looks slightly lamed out by them.
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>>537089934
EoZ Goten is fine too
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>>537088437
I second this
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>>537088187
The Great Basedman since we're already dicking on Gohan
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>>537088187
Nico in whatever outfit of hers you think is cutest, acting smug yet flirty
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>>537088187
Note getting her tail squeezed and pulled (and being aroused by it)
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Tailpullerbro...
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>>537091259
I know what I'm about. But I won't go overboard. This time.
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>>537091657
Go overboard. I for one enjoy your antics. All Saiyans should have tails.
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>>537088187
Majin Kuu making some awkward and/or amusing CDI Link face
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is /dbs/ this into VidelxGoku or is that place more VidelxSpopovich like the picture?
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>>537092472
Note letting people form a line to pull her tail, with it clear she isn't wearing panties and is dripping wet from prior pullings and yet is eager for more. Line can be guys, girls, monkeys, majins, robots, demons, whatever.
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>>537093051
/Dbs/ is (was) more into the videl x spopovich. Goten x videl is popular there too. The meme on /dbs/ is Goku doesn't have sex at all.
Goten x Videl is a little popular here too. It's way more popular than Goku x Videl in general.
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>>537093185
tail puller...
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>>537093438
well considering this general is goku central, makes sense videl is more popular with him than with goten HERE, even tho its the reverse everywhere else
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>>537093535
You willingly read that spoiler. You have no one to blame but yourself. That's not even my worst.
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>>537093185
Now THIS is an opus. Isn't Note pure tho? Or does the purity make it hotter?
>>537093561
True true. It's pretty surprising how few pro Goku places there are online seeing as he's the MC. I'd say Facebook is the only place that is as pro Goku as here. Most are at least positive towards him though.
Toriyama is a genius for making characters people enjoy more than the MC. His world feels alive like no other.
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>>537093438
>>537093561
Literally nobody cares about Goten anywhere.
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...is something I say to myself as a coping mechanism.
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>>537093815
>I'd say Facebook is the only place that is as pro Goku as here.
Literally everywhere is pro-Goku, you just navigate weird terminally online bubbles. The average watcher or reader of the manga has no clue about all the discourse seething around the franchise.
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>1MA
it appears HE woke up...
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>>537094087
Does that cringe gimmick ever works in /dbs/ where you clearly got it from?
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>>537093815
The purity contrasting the sluttiness makes it all the better.
Note lifting her skirt up to show off her bare ass and vulnerable, pullable tail with one arm, while the other is raised and showing off her armpit, if a specific pose is needed.
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>>537094182
>My bully has appeared!
Or, infinitely more likely, you just got told to fuck off by someone who was already on the thread because you're retarded.
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>>537094278
You're going too far!
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>>537094130
There is heavy Bejita and Gohanfagging on every social media and in every place online. Even real life I see a lot of bejitafagging from family members I have shown the show to. The only place that completely rejects Bejitafagging online is here. Even Facebook has Gohan and Bejitafagging now that I think about it.
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>>537094392
Going too far would be the things I would ask of Son Goku.
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>537094380
>537094258
>537094130
>537094017
All the same person btw
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>>537094406
that reminds me how most fanfics have that
>and gohan actually trained and he became the super most epickestssss character
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>>537094258
No, it doesn't. He just doesn't notice regardless.
>>537094406
Yeah, most people also like Gohan and Vegeta. Most DB characters are beloved, I don't see what it change to what I said. The average reaction to mentioning Goku is 'Oh, I love Goku!', of course the second and third most relevant characters in his story are also well liked.
It's only in small terminally online communities that you find people treat characters within the same franchise like football teams.
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>>537094523
Same person who bullied you in middle school too btw. Totally not an obvious cope.
>>537094567
Most fanfics are 'Goku and Vegeta started fucking'.
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>>537094512
no...
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The funniest type of fagging is Tenshinhan from GameFAQS
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>>537094775
Human fags are boring tryhards.
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>>537094834
they produce quality memes though
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>>537094586
>treat characters within the same franchise like football teams.
Goku and bejita are rivals. With how warrior's pride is such an important part of the series, it makes sense to treat them like teams. It's manly that way
>I don't get i-
You aren't manly then. Simple as.
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>>537095172
>Sportsball cope lifted straight from the least manly generation ever
See? Only small terminally online weirdo bubble.
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>>537095250
>least manly generation ever
But enough about zoomers
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>>537095305
Even zoomers are more manly than boomers.
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>>537095352
Boomers have grip strength that could annihilate your hands. They have higher testosterone as old man than zooomers in the prime of their lives statistically.
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Dragon Ball?
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>>537095665
Gohan was more popular than Goku at one point.
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>>537095743
Only in Japan for a very limited time
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>>537095475
>That womanly sperg out
Most unmanly generation. You'd probably die from watching an actual DB episode.
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>>537095475
Take your meds, grandpa, you have a niggerball match to worship.
>Muh grip strength!
>Instantly kneel the moment an ad appears on the TV
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>absolute silence for 8 minutes
>Out of nowhere "two different" people respond within 30 seconds
Kek. You aren't very confident at all in your debating skills, are you? I've already won.
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>>537096379
>2 is 8 and I don't know what the post cooldown is! I win because I got blown the fuck out twice in a row!
Cool cope, Wimp Lo.
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>>537096379
Run faster, effeminate bitch.
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>we get toyotaro instead of an actually talented artist
Still confuses me
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>>537098128
Toyotaro was just the drawslave that could trace Toriyama the best out of those Shueisha noticed.
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>>537038131
i hope the 5 remaining Gekishin characters are SSR and UR tier. right now almost the whole roster is R rarity heroes. there's nobody groundbreaking or awe-inspiring here. can we discuss the "gachafication" of roster perception, and what SSR and UR tier characters we'd like to see added to Gekishin?
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>>537099287
i forgot to mention, i would like to see Z Broly (SSR), Blue Vegeta (UR), SSJ4 GT Goku (UR), and Kale (SSR) added. i go back and forth on the fifth slot but i'd really like to see it go to a Heroes guest or Perfect Cell.
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>>537099287
>>537099667
No, this sounds like a brain-rotted perception of a completely different genre.
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>Raid gives the best z soul for ss blue-da!
Finally!
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>>537099927
i don't think it's brain rot. i think gacha rarities are a good metaphor for how characters are perceived. if i were doing 10-pulls and kept getting basic SSJ's and Z Fighters who (with the exception of Piccolo) haven't been relevant in 30 years – most of those characters would disappoint me. i'm not interested in playing First Form Freeza or Bojack to see their animations.

it's a "can't put the toothpaste back in the tube" situation. you can't exclusively pop fans with Ultra Instinct and Fusions for a decade in Dokkan and Legends to the tune of fat checks, then also expect me to cheer for... Dabura in Gekishin... lol

>>537099667
i can't believe i forgot Goku Black. forget that i said Perfect Cell, gimme Rose Black. lol
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>>537091259
I was sleeping... I still feel tired.
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>>537100581
Dabura in Gekishin is more fun to play than any gacha slop unit you're obsessed with.
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Playing revamp made me realize how lazy and cheap all dragon ball games are.
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>>537101469
that's not the point. the kit you're referring to would still be fun on a character from this century instead of Dabura.
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>>537101797
goated take. wait till you see the next update. they're adding most of the missing transformations, and hairstyle support for both SSJ3's, as well as all three SSJ4's.
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>>537101889
Your point is retarded
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>>537057748
superbros no
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>>537102705
Funny
>>537102084
When is the ETA on it? I'll pirate Xenoverse when the mod whatever updates.
Another thing. I see modding Sparking0 becoming easier and easier (someone even released a tool to export modpacks https://gamebanana.com/tools/20617). When will be the best time to get into that?
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>>537098128
Toyotaro can be a lot more detailed and careful with his artwork, the problem is that he just doesn't usually seem to have that level for the actual pages of his manga. If I had to guess why he doesn't seem to care most of the time, I'd say it's because making like 250 drawings each month is a lot of work and when someone is going to claim full rights to your work, why bother? Not saying that's the right attitude, most don't seem to have it, but it is one explanation.
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>>537103417
now in flat colors
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>>537102705
Cute
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>>537104038
Toyotaro's problem is that he's a fanartist more than a mangaka. He can do a splash page or a guy standing looking cool, but he fails at actual paneling, movement, two bodies connecting dynamically etc.
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>>537103417
i wish i knew the ETA. i've just been hoping it'll be before the end of this year.
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>>537106928
one more. i wish they would post another SYF set!
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>>537106928
no ETA. it doesn't help that eternity's tools still haven't been updated. the balancing for the damage numbers and stamina damage on copy vegeta's basic moveset is finally done though!
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>>537104038
>Toyotaro can be a lot more detailed and careful with his artwork
imo that's the point, he shouldn't be. DB was never about this bodybuilder muscle detail shit he does, and generally Toriyama was always about "hinting" at details while not actually drawing them
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How would she look like if she absorbs Jiren?
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>>537114337
21 (calva)
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this always bothered me
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>>537102705
>>537104252
Based
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>>537104038
This is fucking gross. Why does he draw muscles like he's drawing a dick?
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>>537115171
Yeah, that kind of muscle art wouldn't fit any casual scenes with these characters at all.
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>>537115171
Your dick is a muscle THO
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>>537116016
damn what a CHAD
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I will now train my dick in 500x times earth's gravity
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>>537117083
This or a variation of it is how you improve your stamina and overall sexual experience.
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>>537113896
that's alright! i really appreciate the insight. Copy Vegeta's model looks awesome. i'll definitely be bringing him on some PQ's with me after the next update.
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>>537098396
if that's the case they could've just found a Mexican who traced just as well and would work for a fraction of the cost
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>>537117746
he's pretty fun to play. the best way to describe the moveset is "a vegeta fan made this". he still has a step cancel on his LH, along with the HLHL loop. the goal with a lot of balance changes to revamp characters are to make sure they are fun to play, but aren't overwhelmingly better than the vanilla cast. copy vegeta definitely fits that, though maybe the loop on H3 will have to go. he has enough options as is
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>>537118038
They needed the person to understand their orders though.
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https://x.com/DB_Squadra/status/1961370743385866639
Dragon Ball is officially SAVED!
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>>537118343
no habla ingles
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>>537118837
>skipping semi-perfect
my boy gets no respect
seems interesting though, regen/drain tank with mostly slows so he can stick to targets
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>>537114707
FUUUCK dude same. It doubly sucks because Tien's basics are practically built for it; he makes super heavy use of knockdowns. Cross Arm Dive is one of my favorite skills in the game too...
Slightly related, Videl never used it in the anime but the fact that she doesn't have Dynamite Kick as a mentor move option is so criminal because it'd go so well with her kit
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>>537120040
With Toriyama gone, they will never include Semi-Perfect CHAD in anything ever again...
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>>537118837
THAT'S IT GET YOUR ASS IN THE RING
>proceeds to get his ass beat by a full HP trunks
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>>537118837
BASED
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>>537122076
depressing
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>>537118837
Perfect
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>>536707639
5th one done
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why isn't panzy beating the shit out of me and stepping on my balls
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>>537132948
kek didn't even think of Eighter
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>>537115171
Because you are gay.
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>>537116016
you dick is hydraulic
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>>537098128
Every time they get someone better or on par with Toyo & Toriyama, they get put on to misc or side content like the Heroes manga or Reincarnation of Yamcha.
That also includes Jijii, since they actually pitched a manga to Shueisha at one point.
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>>537118837
So the remaining characters are two technical types and two damage types. Guesses?
Mine:
>Technical
Gotenks, #17
>Damage
Jiren, Broly (not sure which version)
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>>537154410
>technical
hit, 17
>damage
jiren, Z broly
super broly will come with gogeta later down the line i reckon
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fusions 2
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>>537118837
>disgusting moba trash
db fell off
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>>537118837
>beautiful moba gold
db rose up
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>Gekishin Squadra releasing on Cirno day
BASED
A
S
E
D
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>>537180703
She truly is the strongest.
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>>537181018
Is she strong enough to pull that tail though?
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>>537181398
The problem is more that she's too dumb to do it.
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>>537132948
Lol
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>>537181509
I will teach that fairy my ways...
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>>537190190
funny how in reality Pan reaches to the other 2 girls' stomach
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The new issue of WSJ reveals the franchises that will have a main stage at JF '26.

DB does not appear in the lineup, so don't expect a big announcement or anything
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>>537190912
>Dragon Ball makes more than just about every anime listed here
>no manga or anime
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>>537191110
Gotta love copyright bullshit.
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>>537190912
This makes it worse for 2026.
Manga definitely isn't returning early that year either if no JF announcement of it.
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>>537192938
Didn't we see some things from that earnings post that say they predict to make more next year? There has to be something.
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>>537190912
>World Trigger
hell yeah motherfucker
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>>537193284
No, the fiscal year 2026.3 is now and ends on March 31st 2026.
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female saiyans with spiky hair and a tail are unbelievably sexy and I cant believe there arent more in db media

dbs was a disgrace
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>>537193284
Maybe they're betting on Gekishin being a huge hitter.
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>>537193812
flooffy
best of luck
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Do you guys think Dragon Ball Legends is going to shut down soon?
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>>537194178
>Top 3 anime mobile game in revenue
>Shutting down
No.
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>>537193812
Just looking at pic reminds me of BT3. Must be doing something right.
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i miss the real Vegeta so much. whoever the guy in Super is who keeps claiming to be Vegeta isn't convincing.
https://twitter.com/lonely_heheh/status/1961134854042525851?t=oPFx8EqPoznz3vv0nXSWBw&s=19

>>537194178
no way. they haven't even committed to What If units or Heroes yet. the well is only half-tapped. i've seen DBL mods crop up recently for characters like Ultra Ego Vegeta and Ultra Instinct Vegetto, and i even saw a Duo Unit that was both SSJ4 Goku's. they would be insane to shut it down.
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>>537118837
this game is going to be so underwhelming without an item shop. i hope they add a real, Summoner's Rift equivalent eventually, and don't just die as a Pokemon Unite clone.
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>>537194178
making the game modes more accessible is a good thing
unfortunately they always overdo it and remove all the good rewards
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>>537194178
Anon. That's a really, really stupid question. You should feel bad.
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>>537194178
No but it should, then release an offline version with no gacha. Win/Win
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>>537199132
I wish they would do that for SDBH. ;-;
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>>537197951
GT vegeta felt like he'd actually retained his character development from the end of Z, which of course just doesn't easily align with keeping him as goku's rival like everything else wants him to be
it really is a shame, i quite like how he actually views earth as his home and himself as its protector in GT
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Gekishin Official Trailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vi4FYzp4GZ8

Official Cell character showcase: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E3ZgmtiCD10
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>>537200572
I love how Goku just one shot the enemy team at the end.
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>>537199831
GT Vegeta is a bitch who exists as fodder.
There's literally a whole episode where he's having flashbacks and character regression.
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>>537199831
excellent post. i couldn't agree more. i wish they had let Vegeta retain his character development in DBS and introduced a new rival for Goku. that, or just have Freeza, Hit, or Jiren assume the role. the way they treat Vegeta has become more of a reason to tune out than to tune in to new Dragon Ball.

>>537202027
>t. missing the point
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>>537202027
You won.
>>537202692
You lost.
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GT sucks AND Vegeta should be irrelevant.
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>>537203583
I recognize that bulge
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>>537203834
I knew you would.
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I love how videogames are so faithful to Baby getting the Final Flash's name wrong.
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>watching dragon ball deliverance
>They came up with the Bra getting an ironman suit before me
Damn
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>>537202027
>GT Vegeta is a bitch who exists as fodder.
That's who Bejita is dude. Especially if we're talking after Majin Buu where he unironically says "wow you're so cool kakarrot. I will literally never surpass you. You won"
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>>537203345
i'll never understand people who wanna put Vegeta back in the toothpaste tube. he's been part of the story for longer now than the series ever existed without him. he's in more episodes than Krillin and Roshi.
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>>537189921
>when you're so horny you completely ignore basic anatomy

>>537190190
future heroines of Dragon Ball
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>>537210142
Sunk cost fallacy
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>>537216457
i don't know, man. that feels a lot like saying they should just reboot the whole series because trying to continue Toriyama's narrative is "sunk cost fallacy." your argument is teetering on the precipice of modal fallacy and/or fallacy fallacy.
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>daydreaming about dbxv cacs
>think about 21 meeting a female majin and mistaking it for some clone of her
>majin girl is obviously not a clone and doesn't know why 21 is freaking out
>21 decides to treat her as a daughter, using her magic to make treats for her
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>>537219235
I meant to say your entire argument
>i'll never understand people who wanna put Vegeta back in the toothpaste tube. he's been part of the story for longer now than the series ever existed without him. he's in more episodes than Krillin and Roshi.
Is an example of the sunk cost fallacy. The point people are trying to make is Bejita should have never been an important person post Buu arc. He especially shouldn't have been deuterogamist like he was in DBS. Look at him at the end of the Buu arc vs beginning of Super and there is a huge disconnect.
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Reminder Vegeta never drops the rivalry, all he said was Goku was number 1, not that he's permanently inferior to Goku.
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>/dbs/ thread took 3 full days to reach bump limit
How did it reach the point where we have more activity than them now...
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>>537210142
Because moving on from characters is what DB always did. It's not about getting rid of him completely but moving him to Piccolo status, and then perhaps further back.
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>>537235358
>Because moving on from characters is what DB always did.
Even beyond that, nobody ever got pushed as hard as Vegeta has been since DB's return. Even BULMA was less stapled to Goku's side than him. Even Gohan was less shoved to the forefront until the tail end of the Cell Saga.
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What are some good teammates I can and should use with Majin 21? Is there anyone essential I should buy when playing her? I want to buy SSJ4 Gogeta, but I don't think they go well together. I like Trunks too if that helps.
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>>537236013
>>537235358
The corporatization of this series was a mistake
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>>537236013
>Even Gohan was less shoved to the forefront until the tail end of the Cell Saga.
I wouldn't go that far. Vegeta at the end of the day, is always destined to live in Goku's shadow, Gohan was more of an independent deuteragonist. There's a reason people meme about Kakarot that it's a game about Goku where you play as Gohan. Even back in the Saiyan saga, you have Gohan switching over for the final fight (even if Goku keeps up supporting him). It's just not imagineable for Vegeta.
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>>537236304
XV2 or FighterZ?
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>>537199369
Someone should really try to get their hands on an SDBH cabinet. There was a Castlevania arcade game that was preserved, and can be played on PCs, because someone managed to do that...
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>>537236958
FighterZ
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>>537237475
She's pretty good, you can slot her with basically anyone.
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>>537205834
I think the only game where he gets it right is Infinite World. It's specially disappointing there since he has both Big Bang Attack and Final Flash, and they could've made the joke go full circle by having him say the wrong name when using Final Flash, but alas...
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I think about this quite often.
What are your guys' favorite gis? Do any fan ones catch your eye? I like adult Goten's orange no undershirt and his kid orange + black.
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>>537241572
No undershit gi Goku is fun.
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GT rocks and Vegeta should be relevant.
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>>537242568
No what?!
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>>537235346
>new threads keep getting deleted
it's over for /dbs/ and not just the board, but the series as a whole
ended as the only cancelled series in all of DB
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>>537246631
In the ends, it really depends on how much DBS popularity was just old men vs. actual children (at the time). Someone who was 10 in 2015 could end up being nostalgic for stuff like Goku Black or ToP, which could warrant a return to Super storylines in the future.
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>>537246943
From my experience as an American zoomer, most kids were into DBS. It came on late at night so I'd stay up on Sundays to catch the episodes kek. The end of the ToP to the Broly movie were the peak of the series in popularity.
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>>537248438
>most brainless turn-your-mind-off parts are the most popular ones
Zamasu was right.
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It's fine if you enjoy it but imo The Tournament of Power did irreparable damage to the brand of Dragon Ball as a whole
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>>537249007
All of DBS was brainless as fuck. Except maybe the Black Arc.
>>537249083
Did it? In what way?
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>>537249083
Most retarded take ever. If you want irreparable damage, take the Cell MAX fight that started the trend of 'everyone fight the giant villain as a group'.
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>>537249130
By giving validation the "Dragon Ball is just brainless fighting and transformations and epic cool showdowns!!!!" crowd that's been a plague since the early 2000s and cementing that as what Dragon Ball "should be" in the West.

Iyoku himself took that and made Broly as a film for western fans which is probably why everyone calls it the best movie too. Just nonstop brainless fighting and transformations and a cool epic showdown with Gogeta and Broly
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>>537248438
>The end of the ToP to the Broly movie were the peak of the series in popularity.
The peak of DB's popularity was last fiscal year where it broke the record for revenue in a single fiscal year for Bandai and Toei.
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>>537249351
Now this is an even dumber take, trying to blame something so miniscule off a movie he didn't like
Cell Max was not the first time they had done that in the series.
And even in Daima they only did that for one episode.
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>>537249083
Kids still do Goku's warm up thing before he started fighting Broly I have a nepthew in football and they were doing that shit at practice yesterday DBS created a whole new generation of Dragonball fans
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Would Goku be chill with a power up that has a permanent change on his body?
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>>537249530
The leg warm up Goku has been doing since OG and the Broly jumps is generally what I see kids doing.
Only other thing from anime I remember seeing kids actually do is the Naruto Run.
>>537249489
I liked Super Hero. I can't remember a single giant enemy before DBS outside of movies.
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>>537249351
Cell Max was a parody of dragon ball. Worse than DeviantArt tier shit.
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>>537249679
Cell MAX was great, he even did the Shin Godzilla thing.
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>>537249651
Yeah I was mostly thinking of the movies
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>>537249779
Then it shouldnt have been called cell at all.
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I liked the everyone vs Gomah section especially that part where everyone charged their attacks to fire at him only for him to pop that shield and reverse it back on them, I hope he does something like that if we eventually get him as a raid boss, like he stops coming after you and just stands there and after a certain amount of time he pops the shield an idiot that attacks him when it's out triggers his field wide reflect move that will take a huge chunk out of your health if you're good enough at dash dancing to dodge it
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>>537250601
The entire fight against him was so dumb, even worse that prolonged Neva convincing Tamagami 1 to get into the fight considering he contributed nothing.
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>>537250740
okay fine how dare I like something from that show, what an idiot I am, I should die, my family should die, the street i live on should die, the country I stay in should die,sorry for my sin don't forgive me make me suffer and hopefully die a very painful death
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>>537250601
That was pretty cool, yeah but I hope they don't get into the habit of making EVERY final fight like that.
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>>537251338
There will never be another final fight. Gomah is the final villain of Dragon Ball and forever will be.
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>>537250815
no but JOBmah is a garbage villain I mean look at this ass design >>537251654
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>>537195042
what did he mean by this?
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>>537253196
>How dare you have fun! Why is the design not my tryhard 'badass' OC?!
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>>537237916
That's not true. Majin 21's sliding and hard knockdown games are quite poor, especially after she was overnerfed. She greatly benefits from team support.
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I personally disagree that super destroyed vegeta's character development by having Vegeta still be Goku's rival. If anything I think that *is* the character development because the fundamental nature of what it meant to be goku's rival to vegeta fundamentally changed. Before the kid buu fight it was something that he based his entire self worth on to the point where it was extremely self destructive. He realized that wasnt what he wanted to be about and changed his entire perspective to immediately drop the whole thing when more important shit comes up.

Honestly now that I think about it vegeta is barely Goku's rival at all in super, he keeps the kayfabe up but its mainly just for hype reasons and he doesn't really believe in it that hard. Overall I think him changing what it meant to be goku's rival is a perfectly valid path of character development for vegeta post buu saga and I think people get too hung up on the fact that he's still competitive with goku instead of looking at *how* he is competitive. The dude is basically goku's hype man during black and the ToP
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>>537257519
Super didn't destroy anything, I just want to see Vegeta less. It's just too much.
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>>537258976
Now that I can agree with. Especially since super wants to have its cake and eat it too in terms of vegeta. He's still the guy who jobs all the time but its not self inflicted and is often because of bullshit, so you don't even get the satisfaction of vegeta being dumb and paying the consequence he just loses.
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>>537260657
>he just loses.
and that's a good thing
the best part is that toyotaro is a vegetafag himself and made up a whole form whose whole point is just jobbing, you can't even do anything cause he made the joke himself
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>>537260865
I more dislike ultra ego because it leans into this dumb angel versus GoD rivalry that doesn't make sense in the first place because we know ultra instinct is objectively better and is just not something goku and vegeta care about.
In the anime vegeta had his whole thing with blue evolved and picking his own path but that wasn't in the manga version so whatever I guess.
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>>537261275
>this dumb angel versus GoD rivalry that doesn't make sense in the first place
Because there's no such rivalry, Angels are just straight up above the GoDs to a ridiculous degree.
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>>537241572
Goku's from the 23rd Tenkaichi until his training with King Kai. 'kame' patch, black undershirt.
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>>537257519
Nah, he's not such a jerk about it anymore, but he's still chasing after Goku which is exactly what he claimed was the wrong way.
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>>537266853
>Beerus above Jiren, let alone UIku
Stopped reading at that point.
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>>537267032
Tori went to his grave declaring CHADrus was never surpassed, and that will now be forever canon. Cope
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>>537266853
>Zeno above GP
GP is Zeno's Angel therefore stronger.
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>>537267549
>Tori went to his grave declaring [headcanon]
... and just like this, kekrusfag falls apart.
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>>537249130
>All of DBS was brainless as fuck.
It's just another Dr.Slump season, why do you hate Toriyama so much?
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>>537249083
real ass post. Ultra Ego also did irreparable damage by establishing the "everybody gets a super special unique form!" trope, directly leading to Orange Piccolo, Beast Gohan, and to some extent Daima SSJ4 (as it is also a Goku-exclusive form). now group photos of the cast in their strongest forms look like you gave a kid a DBZ coloring book and a box of crayons with every color in it except yellow. lol

>>537249357
i think DBS Broly is better than the ToP, but i only really enjoy the Broly movie in the beginning when there's new story material unfolding and the fight is amping up. once Gogeta shows up you can basically turn that hoe off cause he just effortlessly aura farms off Broly for the last 15 minutes.
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>>537275510
You're really overstating the promotional manga's influence. Super Hero has been in development for years before the Granolah arc started. Also, almost every form is achieved by one person initially, so that SS4 complaint is weird, I think only SSB has actually been reached by two people at once (unless you count stuff like fully masterd SS). Goku was the only SS post-Namek, Gohan was the only SS2 post-Cell, Goku was the only SS3 for most of the Buu saga, he was the only SSG post BoG, and the only UI post ToP (and to this day not counting games); also the only GT!SS4 post-Baby. If you want an actual firstunique form, then it would be Ultimatehan.
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>>537276624
>You're really overstating the promotional manga's influence. Super Hero has been in development for years before the Granolah arc started.
so what, you're saying it was a total coincidence that Gohan and Vegeta both got UI equivalent forms? lol

>Also, almost every form is achieved by one person initially, so that SS4 complaint is weird
most new forms aren't introduced in a presequel. Daima SSJ4 was, so there are future implications for the form that weren't present for SSJ2 or GT SSJ4. unless you think there's going to be a Daima Season 2 where Vegeta and Gogeta or Vegetto also get Daima SSJ4. which seems pretty unlikely considering it... flopped...
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>>537275510
that was always the case, every form was introduced as unique to one character. Goku had kaioken, Vegeta had Super Vegeta, Trunks had Grade 3, Gohan had SSJ2 at first, Goku had SSJ3, Vegeta had Majin. Tien had the four arm thing.
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Going through the female cast, I never realised how many Suno clones there were in filler episodes. Which were always one off girls from villages that're being terrorized/threatened by something
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>>537277604
>so what, you're saying it was a total coincidence that Gohan and Vegeta both got UI equivalent forms? lol
Definitely Beast wasn't inspired by UE. It might have been the other way around if Toyo was even informed by the movie develoments.
>flopped
Cope.
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>>537276624
I"m not sure if ultimatehan counts, as it's not really treated like much of a form as opposed to just a powerup like the potential unlock in the source material. It being a defined power up at all feels mostly a product of the games
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>>537278484
The elder straight-up tells Gohan he taps into the power the same way he goes SS, it's never been a passive.
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>>537278075
Suno doesn't have much personality beyond "cute girl in distress". It's an easy archetype to introduce conflict and emotional investment; all men instinctively want to save helpless girls.
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>>537278746
on that thought, why does elder kai know that if you fuse while you're in super saiyan you'll be stuck like that forever. How could he possibly know how potara and super saiyan interact
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>>537278890
He probably saw what happened to other races that can transform when they used Potara.
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>>537278049
>t. Mister Fantastic

>>537278207
it did flop, tho. we've seen the numbers, now. it's not even speculation anymore. it was such a flop, they came out and said "uhh actually that wasn't the big DB anniversary project after all." LOL
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>>537278746
Yeah, Ultimate was always a transformation. The "Ultimate is not a form, it's his new natural state" crowd were coping hard and always ignored that line
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>>537277604
>so what, you're saying it was a total coincidence that Gohan and Vegeta both got UI equivalent forms? lol
NTA, but while UE came out first, as far as development goes, Beast and Orange probably were created first. Much like the lore Toyotaro introduced of Namekians coming from another realm was just him using lore that Toriyama came up with for Daima, as was Cereal's dragon balls having a smaller set.

>>537278075
The biggest Suno clone is Pansy, from Curse of the Blood Rubies. Not only she has the usual "girl from a village being terrorized", she also looks like Suno. When watching the movie I assumed she was until she said her name...
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>>537279736
>it did [headcanon]
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I don't have any particular stakes in whether or not Daima was financially sucessful or not but I really didn't care too much for Daima. I always thought the adventure parts of dragonball were overstated as a major part of the series as opposed to the fights and I suppose i'm just too old for "the cast is kids now" to appeal to me. I did like the fight coreography, though. I feel like it's a bit of a trend for modern animation to go "good fight animation is when fast and fluid" as opposed to good coreography, so being able to actually read how the fight flows was nice
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I was introduced to DB through GT subs so Goku being a kid again for Daima never bothered me. I guess I can understand why people wouldn't like it but some fans acted really autistic about it like them being kids decided whether it was good or bad and not the overall disappointing mediocre story and adventure that made Daima fall flat
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>>537278746
>>537279963
Even once Gohan is resurrected, his hair and face look different from how they looked when he was fighting Buu, and there are some noticeable changes when he transformed into UItimate.

What I find to be lame is Ultimate being a form Gohan can outright lose. It should have replaced Super Saiyan completely...
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>>537280663
I don't think that Goku being a kid is an inherently bad thing, but it sets the precedent that they're trying really hard to appeal to nostalgia pandering as opposed to the story attempting to stand on its own two legs as its own thing.
GT's nostalgia pandering during the black star saga also caused it to suffer, even if ultimately the worst thing about it was a mediocre plot and disinterested main character
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>>537282567
Holy based
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>>537282567
sexo tums
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>>537281158
I can agree with that
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>>537282567
holy sex
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>>537193812
Gameplay for it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-EDd1H8yEI8&ab_channel=Riota

Now that I've got a chance to see it in motion, I have to say a big problem with Sparking Zero isn't just the models, but also the angles they're in and the expressions during them.
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Goku being a kid again in GT stopped mattering after like five minutes of screentime. The only actual nerf he gets is a lack of Instant Transmission, his inability to sustain Super Saiyan 3 barely mattered and only resulted in filler schlock, and 3 gets forgotten entirely for 4.
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>>537287082
as mentioned earlier, the thing that annoys me the most about GT is just how disinterested goku is in the plot during the black star arc. He could easily solve several of the plots but doesn't really care and just kind of stands there as the plot happens around him until pan gets captured during the Myuu arc. Wherein he still refuses to go super saiyan 2 or 3 for unknown reasons
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Speaking of models, is the Dimps behind Legends completely different than the Dimps behind Sparking Zero? Because a lot of the recent models in Legends have been amazing. Especially this Goku and the Daimas.

If they are different, I'm curious to see what they could make if they had a next-gen game to work on. No idea if they actually do have a good art/3D team, or if they simply get more time and money, and things are just easier because they're developing for a simple mobile game.
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>>537287376
GT Goku feels like a theme park mascot at times. He says the funny lines, he punches the strong guys, and then he saves the day with his Kamehameha (tm). Trunks may be a wet blanket patterned on Future Trunks but at least he reacts to things, and Pan might as well be the only character he gets to share a brain cell with.
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>>537287606
SZ isn't Dimps, ar you talking XV2?
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>>537289052
Yes.
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>>537287376
he knows he can solve the problem at any point, that's why he's so nonplussed. he's just having fun touring around with his granddaughter whom he hasn't spent time with in years.
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>>537289350
there being an in universe reason for it doesn't make it any more enjoyable to watch. We don't even really get Goku trying to teach pan to do anything or trying to hang out with her specifically in shadow dragons, he's just kinda there
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>>537289554
because she's all tsuntsun to him, and he's intuitive enough to tell he needs to give her a bit of space so she can warm up at her own pace. which she does by the end of the show, to the point she's utterly heartbroken when he has to leave and even a hundred years later basically only thinks about him.
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>>537289860
Anon that's all well and good from a character perspective but i'm not talking about in universe justifications for why the plot is boring, i'm just saying that it is
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>>537289860
>basically only thinks about him.
Panbros...
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>>537290142
His mind is fixed on the idea that it is beyond criticism, and even if it's subjective, personal experience. Everything is justified.
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Given I keep seeing fanart of battle damaged 18 with mechanical bits despite that not being remotely what she is in canon, some part of me wants it to be true if only because the thought of Gero keeping 18's fully functional womb for some reason funny
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>>537292841
I've never seen any mention that 17 or 18 have any mechanical parts in them, just that they were altered at the cellular level. Unless you count the bombs that were inside them, which begs the question where the fuck they were. Like did Gero just stick them in their guts or between some organs?
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>>537295352
he gave 18 the paz treatment
don't ask where 17's is
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>>537295352
anon i'm saying FANART tends to give 18 mechanical bits, i'm saying it's fanon based off people not read the series but it does give some funny implications
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>>537298705
I know it's fanon shit, but there are still plenty people that legit think 17 and 18 are part machine
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>>537299219
It's mainly just from the fact that they're called androids and not cyborg, combined with the fact that 19,20,and 16 are all or at least mostly mechanical
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>>537294623
My OTP
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>>537288401
And how is that any different to Daima Goku? What different did he do, what character development did he go through?
In fact GT Goku actually had more, he needed his tail to get pulled and had a board game to play.
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>>537294375
feetbluds...
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>>537301617
Hawt
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>>537301721
bossu...
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>>537292841
>because the thought of Gero keeping 18's fully functional womb for some reason funny
He wanted to make use of it.
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>>537302421
L'source?
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>>537302590
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>>537303057
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I spend more time fantasizing about a new DB game that checks all my boxes or versions of current DB games (Like Xenoverse and Legends and SZ) that actually did things right than I do actually playing DB games.

Like I was doing the battle gauntlet thing for Legends and I couldn't do automode past the 20th stage because I don't have the new Vegeta, and from that point on I just zoned out fantasizing about a version of Legends that wasn't aggressively PVP-centered, one that actually took advantage of its story and gave us more content like the Young Nappa event and more game original units, and I didn't even notice I had completed the gauntlet.
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>>537303825
shouldn't she be about 40 then?
>Suno waited for decades for the man who saved her whole family to come back
>he comes back and has a wife and two kids, having never visited her in the meantime
poor girl..
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>>537304349
What's your ideal DB game?
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>>537304986
>Either an arena fighter or action adventure game
>Story goes from early DB to Super Hero
>great customization choices (both attacks and costumes)
>as close to FighterZ's models as a fully 3D game can possibly be
>ultimate attacks that look like they were ripped straight from a CC2 cutscene
>FighterZ and Budokai tier destructive finishes
>maps that don't look like a generic unreal 4 environment
>characters that never make it into any other DB fighting game (and yes I will play them, I wouldn't want them if I wasn't going to play them)
I get it though. No studio could do this and even if one could, they simply don't get the time or money to do it right.
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>>537305545
Unironically a gacha game could check literally every single box here. The pieces are all there, they just have to realize a Dragon Ball mobile game that isn't turnbased or almost completely PVP centered would be the most profitable thing ever.
The problem is, as a sacrifice you'd have to get a more simplistic combat system and every character can only be obtainable through a scummy casino shop.
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>>537304589
>Goku promised to come visit
>Didn't
M-my hero breaks promises?!
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>>537305545
plenty of studios could do that if they'd actually make smart use of dlcs and expansions. Like just take XV2 and replace it with your game, you think a base game + dlcs released in the same time span wouldn't be able to do what you said and more?
At that point the only issue is what to put in the base game, i'd simply go like start of og db to namek saga (up to the end) and the rest is all expansions

in any case, the gist of it is that they should simply adopt a jrpg style content spread (you're looking at a 100 hour game) and then also do multiple expansions with the same reasoning. They could make the absolute ultimate DB game and i'm cumming just thinking about it, but again the issue here is suits and execs simply being suits and execs, they don't even know what would make for a good product and as such they're either reiterating what old games already did or copying whole genres in the hopes of a few years of a quick buck.
>but kakarot
that's simply how you DON'T do the ideas i just said, if anything the game to look at is SandLand

again just take the general concept without thinking about dragon ball: it's a game where you start with a kid protagonist that can do kick and punches and by the (base game) end game he can fly, shoot super balls of mega destruction and transform, that alone would sell even without the DB ip slapped on it imo
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>>537307730
He might have run into them during his three years of walking the earth between Baba and 22TB.
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>>537304986
Legends' story mode really makes me wish there was a party system action RPG with relationship building mechanics that lets you get to know the characters more and help grow the relationships between them. And also get romantic with the female members and go on date events. Yeah I know, I'm just mostly describing a Persona game with a Dragon Ball skin
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>>537289860
>basically only thinks about him.
Never forget that Grandma Pan stole Goku Jr from his parents, named him after her grandfather and put so much effort into grooming him into another Goku that she had a stoke and almost fucking died.
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>>537309123
and even then she'll still run off at the drop of a hat for a chance at seeing HER goku again
pan's thirst for her grandpa is legitimately concerning
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>>537308213
Legends has a friendship system. It'd be cool if, instead of buffing TOP stats, it'd also unlock special missions and interactions. I know it's never going to happen, but I honestly hope Legends does die. It pisses me off seeing all the potential it has and them doing nothing with it. Same for Xenoshart.
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>>537304589
>shouldn't she be about 40 then?
Assuming she was 12 during RRA, she would be like 37 in Buu saga? Since Pan was born by Broly she'd around 43.

She cameos in GT, and they didn't bother to change her Z model sheet to even look a little older, despite her being about 50 by then.

It's nuts how much time advances in DB compared to other shonen. The story starts with Goku as a kid, but there are so many timeskips that he spends most of the story as an adult with a kid, and by the epilogue he's a grandfather.
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>>537310886
... and then from 2013-2022 we're in something like a 4 year period... only to say screw it all and go further back later.
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>>537313439
Unfortunately... Toriyama said he regrets making everyone so old in the epilogue, so we're not getting past it. If by some miracle they decide to go past it, the timeskips probably won't advance time that much to keep everyone young and recognizable.
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>>537310886
I mean Bulma's mother hasn't aged the entire series, at least Suno changed at all
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>>537315450
Bulma's mother is a genetic freak, and might as well be immortal.

Did she show up in in Buu saga's manga at all? I know she showed up in the anime and looked as young as ever... Toriyama did draw her for BoG and she still didn't age a day.
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>>537280872
Truearoo. Ultimate should have been the new base for him. He is always at his strongest. There is your Gohan gimmick. He can't transform at all.
>But I like screaming and powerin-
BEAST now exists IG.
>Even once Gohan is resurrected, his hair and face look different from how they looked when he was fighting Buu, and there are some noticeable changes when he transformed into UItimate.
As always, the eyes tell the entire story. His eyes change into the Bejita/SS eyes. After resurrection he keeps the SS eyes and when he's relaxed he has the MSS round closed eyes. As of EOZ he maintains those eyes so my assumption from manga only was he always had some form of ultimate activated.
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I still remember when it was called Mystic Gohan, Potential Unlocked Gohan, Hi Tension Gohan and Kai-Gohan
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>>537316978
how much of that is Toriyama/Shueisha not wanting to damage the brand by aging out characters?

thinking about it, wasn't the "saiyans age slower" thing first introduced in End of Z? like, one of the final 2-3 chapters of the whole series? How much you wanna bet that was a request by Toei because they wanted to make GT and didn't want Goku and Vegeta being shown as old men?
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>>537275510
>Ultra Ego also did irreparable damage by establishing the "everybody gets a super special unique form!"
ACKTUALLY Super Saiyan Blue Evolution did that.
The series wanted to move beyond Bejita always being in Goku's shadow. I can't decide personally if I like the linear progression model we had before or the everyone gets something personal model.
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>>537309123
It's worse because Dan Dan Kokkoro is a legit love song
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>>537318368
written from Goku's perspective
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>>537310886
>It's nuts how much time advances in DB compared to other shonen. The story starts with Goku as a kid, but there are so many timeskips that he spends most of the story as an adult with a kid, and by the epilogue he's a grandfather.
One of my favourite parts about the franchise is this. I like seeing everyone in all the stages of life. It's heartworming the Goku from chapter one becomes a grandpa and becomes a master just like Roshi and Gohan.
THe way things are going if we ever continue beyond after the Buu Arc 70 year old Goku will still be taking care of everything. If only we could see how Goku's version of the turtle school turns out.
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>>537317389
I should definitely remake this and add in more sources.
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>>537318803
Why does Frieza have perky nips
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>>537320209
Because he's a sissy slut
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Are there any Dragon Ball related things you're looking forward to this year and next year?
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>>537320695
Kakarot's Daima DLC. That's literally it. And that makes me sad.

I am sorta kinda curious about Xenoverse's DLC. Fuu becoming evil and all that, but it has a higher chance of turning into a big fat nothing burger that only slightly changes the status quo like Infinite History did. Nothing to get hyped about, especially with how long the DLCs take in the first place.
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>>537320358
Luke Goku...
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>>537287056
5 hours later and I'm only just realizing I forgot my image kek. But yeah, so many angles and faces in this game would look so much better with a little tweaking. Like SS Gohan's mouth when he does the kamehameha should not be that big.
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>>537322410
Comparison
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>>537322410
>>537322796
eh I think the mouth is fine, it just needs a black outline for the lips and for the mouth to be...mouth colored. No idea why they went with the pitch black abyss.
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>>536717236
The final request form the last thread.
I'm so sorry these took so long to do. Mainly because of that prisoner one.
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>>537322968
the issue is the S0 models don't make the jaws open far enough for Toriyama's signature 'gurning shout' face, so to compensate they make the nose slide up the characters' faces which makes their face look unnaturally small and scrunched up, like a downie.
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>>537323498
I thought they made the noses slide up because they're really really big and don't want any clipping issues for big expressions.
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>>537323742
they tended to be drawn with fairly big noses in the anime, especially early on in Z.
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You guys think Kakarot will ever adapt GT into a DLC? It seems like the perfect material to do so.
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>>537325694
GT is most definitely the last thing they'd ever try doing. We've still got Broly and Super proper to do, let alone the rest of DB.
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Man you guys weren't kidding yeah Super did do bad damage to the franchise
I'm not saying Super Vegeta is bad but I don't understand how anyone can look at "THE SINS OF MUH SAIYANS! I MUST SUDDENLY ATONE FOR THEM! THE SINS! MY SINS!" as an interesting or well thought out characterization for Vegeta when it goes fucking nowhere in the manga

Vegeta in Buu felt mature enough at the end to accept all his flaws and insecurities. Vegeta in Super feels like he suddenly goes right back into them but without the "I'm totally evil" aspect of Android Arc Vegeta
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>>537328262
Vegeta has never been his own man, narratively. His identity has revolved around his relationship with Goku. the only time this wasn't the case was on Namek, which is also when he was most compelling as a character.
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>>537317674
>thinking about it, wasn't the "saiyans age slower" thing first introduced in End of Z?
Surprisingly yeah... Z Paragus even looks odd with that claim, since he aged naturally over the years, but End of Z Goku and Vegeta are about the same age as Z Paragus, and they don't look like they're that old.

>>537328262
>conveniently leave out the end of the manga where he says he'll still defeat him one day
That was Kanzenban though, added many years after the original manga concluded (IIRC it was added after even GT concluded), so not being aware of it is perfectly fine.
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>>537323339
Kek
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>>537325694
free CC2 from the shackles of DBZ... hire them to work on Hero Academia games instead!

>>537328262
the discourse that video started is giving me a fucking ulcer. 15'ers are the fucking worst.
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>>537335924
Ohhhh so that's why I'm seeing so many people talk about Vegeta, what's the name of the video?
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>>537337456
it's this. i posted it here yesterday.
>>537197951
just a comparison between GT and Daima, where GT Vegeta behaves like a mature, serialized character who arc'd, and Daima Vegeta is written like an Archie & Jughead character.
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>>537318803
>heartworming
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>>537337940
Ah that's why
Yeah, one of the things GT did right was make the characters feel like an evolution of how we saw them in Buu and EoZ
Super and Daima just...fall them back into the same old archetypes
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>>537038531
This ain't the Naruto general
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>>537038531
They gotta hit this hoe with the Supernatural Season 12 special and use the Dragon Balls to resurrect Gine.
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>>537325567
Eh, I wouldn't really call that big. Long, maybe, but not fat/wide like in SZ. Also, Yamcha didn't really have a big nose in SZ.

It was Goku, Gohan, the fusions, DBS Vegeta, and Piccolo. A lot of other characters had big noses, but it didn't really clash with their expressions like it did those guys.
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>>537340575
Samefagging

When I was looking at Gohan I saw Caulifla and Kale and I forgot how SZ made them look like dolls. Like actual bratz dolls with the weird thin limbs and the big heads. It's not their fault though, it seems like they were trying to be 1:1 with the Toei modelsheet. That's the same reason why Kefla looks so bad.
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>>537341482
Yamamuro design wins again
Shintani you're out
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>>537341636
Nah that's not Shintani's fault. It's Spike's fault for trying to combine Shintani's art style with Yamamuro's character reference. They should have just gotten Shintani and Toei to hold their hand like Studio Pierrot did for Tamsoft.
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>>537341636
Shintani has never even drawn Caulifla or Kale, and Kefla only in a single low-detail frame in the background in the Broly movie when Goku was talking about the ToP.
their look in like FighterZ is because of the developers deliberately going off-model.
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>>537341482
Well at least SZ gave her some cleavage
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>>537345515
she's got a bit of arse cleavage too. look closely next time you boot up the game, there's about an inch of buttcrack poking out of her trousers.
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>>537345950
I think that's meant to be her dimples, but the way they're done on her always look like an ass crack
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>>537341482
Real talk Caulifla and Kale have never been sexy. They've been cute maybe but never sexy when on model and acting as in official media.
Kefla maybe.
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>>537341482
Looks like she's growing up, what does woman caulifla look like?
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>>537352728
All we know is that Caulifla's gang has been around for a while, Kale joined it later, Cabba is a well established soldier in the military, the girls are their age and they aren't chibi like Goten and Trunks were when they were under 17 so Caulifla, Kale and Cabba aren't under 17 either.
Her behaviour is modeled after the Sukeban, not a teenage girl. Sukeban are girl gangs filled with female delinquents. The first ones were founded by highschool girls, but that's not where the story ends. Some grew to even rival smaller Yakuza clans. Many "girl bosses" in anime are modelled after the Sukeban. It is not an age restricted thing.
They are adults
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Revamp is so fucking good.
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>>537354536
Holy shit, so a womanlet gang member that acts like a 12-13yo girl?
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>>537305267
That's hot
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>>537355007
>womanlet
Yes (she's cute that way)
>acts like a 12-13yo girl?
She doesn't really.
Toriyama called her a young woman.
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>>537339565
Based
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>>537345515
>>537341482
Her tits bounced the last time I played Gekishin
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>>537355946
Her 'waku waku' power autism seem to give me that mental image
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>>537341482
this would be more convincing if the bottom images weren't clearly sub-optimal in-between frames that make the model look worse than it actually does. then the top row is a pair of glamour shot promotional images. lol

>>537341636
i saw this photo recently of a "Yamamuro" Vegetto model that's buried inside the Sparking files, and it obliterated any doubts i had about Shintani's art. this shit looks like it's straight out of the Goku Black arc, when the anime was at it's ugliest. i wouldn't have bought the game if it looked like this.
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>>537356786
i fucking HATE when they make SSB such a cyan color. the light Shintani blue looks so much better.
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>Not only can Broly's human extinction attack hit you through afterimage but so can his charge
This raider is fucking retarded
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>>537132948
Why is there some zoomer campaign to turn clanker from wanting to fuck robots to being robots this shit is as cringe as their attempt to "reclaim" snow bunny
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>>537358115
Just like Broly.
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>>537358259
Clanker is from Star Wars 40 year ago, anon.
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>>537358723
>ackshully its from star wars
ackshully its a british term for uncool and awkward
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>>537358902
No, it's not, it's directly taken from star wars. That's where the term we're talking comes from.
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>>537360282
Shut up fag.
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>>537323339
Finally, the source of the rares
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>>537360478
>S-s-stop being right!!!!
Lol, no.
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>>537360609
I remember all of these xenoverse gohan memes from like 10 years ago but I can't find them in google. There was one that was just a collage of people's screenshots of Gohan cacs that I really wish I could find.
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>>537361783
YOU MADE THIS
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>>537362054
no, /dbs/ did
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>>537282567
I forgot to give Miza tattoos FUCK
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BOOM
ENTER CHADREN
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>>537365675
Keep that to /dbs/, please and thank you.
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that one shot in super where goku's hair is flickering from black to yellow is so bad ass
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>>537365887
You could really tell he was completely out of power and yet still going.
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>>537356786
Shintani's art fits Super characters and forms but it doesn't fit Z characters and forms.
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Drew my Xenoverse team
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>>537379629
based OC contributor, i like it!
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>>537380910
thanks
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>>537383387
BULMA DON'T BREATHE!!! YOUR LUNGS WILL BE FULL OF VEGETA DUST
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>>537038131
Note is pure!
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>>537379629
the perfect amount for a raid or expert mission in xv2. what specialized roles would they have? would they synergize well or get in each other's way?
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>>537385039
From left to right:
Foryuu: as the male majin he's the resident tank, hurling himself headfirst into the enemy
Crimson: Melee specialist, but more offensively oriented. He has a unique phasing ability, which unfortunetaly makes him sometimes phase out of reality completely (I don't care enough about him to keep a permament slot on my save file)
Alex: android, team leader. Has psychic abilities allowing him to quickly relay orders. Uses his artificial energy for stealth, assassination and distraction.
Onia: wildcard, versatile with blasts, strong in melee with a ki blade, can tank with a ki absorbtion technique
Colate: pure support, the healer of the group
Heavy: blast specialist, he uses a combination of ki and magic to change the weather to create unpredictable and unexpected attacks

I generally write them as working well together
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>>537379629
Nice team!
>>537384674
Pure sex!
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Yamamoto has done some art of kid Chichi
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>>537391470
Insanely based
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>>537391746
it's from Kame Paradise, so it's animated as well
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>>537391470
That's a child
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>>537392143
she's 12 (out of 10)
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>>537391470
kame paradise was pretty good
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>>537393065
I hope he does a part 4.
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>>537392143
Even better
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I'm tired of waiting for Gekishin brehs
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>>537398062
Play some breakers in the meantime :)

don't actually play breakers
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>>537393419
Have the gaming parts of his games gotten any better? Haven't played any in a while, but I remember them being awful scene finders with an annoying rock, paper, scissors mechanic designed to waste time and reset your progress. The visuals were always nice, but there was no work put into any other aspect of the game or its writing, so I gave up and started downloading the art.
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>>537399337
I dunno, I just check out the CG rips on sadpanda.
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>>537310050
>pan's thirst for her grandpa is legitimately concerning
Like mother like daughter...
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>>537318368
better*
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>>537408057
videl's horny for hercule's dad?
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>>537408057
we just gotta accept Pan is Goku's daughter
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>Watching Hero's Legacy
>Pan is the only one still alive
>Bra forgotten about as usual
>Not even 5 minutes it an Pan talks about how great Goku is
>She's clearly grooming Goku Jr into becoming more like Goku
Most of her dialogue are either about how great Goku is and that Goku Jr should become more like Goku. The Ova doesn't even mention Goku Jr's parents, and has no pictures of them, it's only a few pictures of Pan, Goku, Trunks and Giru... Funny the Ova wrote out Giru too, even though he should be around, as long as someone can keep his maintenance.
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>>537415771
honestly i'm more likely to believe gohan and videl had another kid, and goku jr's THEIR great-great-grandkid rather than pan's, because the fuck is she fucking other than goku or a goku-like at this point?
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>>537417364
maybe she saw a pic of what Goten was like as a kid...
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>>537415771
I bet Pan pulls out Goku's gi for a big whiff every night like she's sneaking a shot a whiskey.
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>>537417364
>because the fuck is she fucking other than goku or a goku-like at this point?
Maybe she learned what Goten used to look like...
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>incest fantasies involving pre pubescent girls
Favorite character?
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>>537423946
Goku!
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>>537423946
Vegeta of course
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>>537310050
>>537408057
>>537415605
Based
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>>537423946
there is not a father on earth who doesn't have 'those' fantasies when his daughter first starts going through puberty
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>TWO Multiverse specials back to back
>THis one is a fucking Uub special
I dont even read multishart.
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>>537427713
YOU WILL WRIKE PUUB
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>>537427361
Chat is this real?
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>>537428251
They put two special chapters back to back right after the worst chapter in the 20 year history of the fan manga. How can anyone support this?
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>>537429862 (me)
>>537428251
Also, it's not like the fact it's uub that makes it bad. If there had been an uub chapter 10 years ago it'd be good. But right now it's the wrong time.
I want to like uub
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>>537430218
at this point i will laugh when Uub comes out again and he is older than Goku and with 20 kids with his homunculus wife
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>>537431629
Why is their daughter dressed like Ranma?
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>>537431802
Who knows
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>>537432068
OG DB and Ranma 1/2 would make for a great crossover
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>>537432472
What happens when a blonde hybrid goes Super Saiyan?
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>>537427361
Toriyama...
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>>537432404
Explain
>>537432659
The hair sticks up and doesn't change color. Trunks is pretty much that. His hair is white in the manga and stays white/not inked in when in SS.
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>>537432871
>Explain
There's nothing to explain, both just fit well together, they have the same 'wacky martial art comedy' tone with some more serious boss fights.
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>>537429862
>How can anyone support this?
Multiversefags suffer from sunk cost fallacy. Among their copes I've seen:
>It's realistic
>It's better than DBS
>Special chapters are necessary to develop other universes
>There was nothing Goku could do against XXI
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>>537435079
>>There was nothing Goku could do against XXI
How don't they realize that in-itself is a condemnation of Multiverse as a story and fanmanga?
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>>537435079
>There was nothing Goku could do against Cell!
We still got an amazing fight anyways.
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>>537436546
And Goku still managed to pull of SOME stuff like the IT Kamehameha.
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>>537436783
salagir would consider the IT kamehameha 'too smart for goku' and only let vegito do it if it was from a movie and not a canon arc
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>>537436783
>>537436546
Yeah that's the perfect way of doing a fight you plan on Goku losing. He may lose but he'll always put up a good fight. Make Goku a side character and that's how he should work.
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>>537437421
Does Goku even ever used IT, let alone the IT Kamehameha in Multiverse?
>>537437670
Also Goku was the one who enabled the win to begin with, the entire Gohan thing was his idea. It didn't work perfectly but it was still vital for the win.
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>>537430431
Won't that whole training arc for Uub turn out useless? Given Salagir's 'training won't solve anything in DBM, we're beyond that!'?
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>>537043667
>the series with a character driven plot that had the majority of it's story written at the last minute has shit sequels
in a way it's kinda poetic
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>>537445248
could unironically see bulma fucking around with vtubing as one of her many attempts to feel younger again
trunks is a frequent donator and is completely unaware
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>>537446419
>>537445248
>Dragon Ball vtuber OVA
Are we watching?
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>>537362054
I made a Sparking Zero custom battle just for you.
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Hey there, I changed their outfits a little bit and finally got a new SD card for my olad, have we heard anything about Future Saga 3?
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>>537447214
Based
>>537447830
Nope
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Can I make the XenoVerse Saiyan girls asses larger?
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>>537447947
I don't think you can customise body parts.
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>>537447947
only way you can really do that is installing clothes mods that have big asses and using them exclusively for your big booty monkey gf
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>>537447214
Forgot to mention but there are two "win" endings.
One for beating Gohan as your chosen character and one for losing against him then winning the rematch. Neither are good for the world.
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>>537447830
>I changed their outfits a little bit and finally got a new SD card for my olad,
They're very cute and good job.
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>>537435763
Somehow they don't. They also follow Salagir's mentality that magic is overpowered.

>>537441918
I think he'll do okay, because he is learning Buu's magic.
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>>537449819
>I think he'll do okay, because he is learning Buu's magic.
Probably, I'm just pointing out how Salagir clearly doesn't live up to his own world.
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>>537449998
I don't know when he said that, but he never lived up to that.
>Cell only became that powerful because he trained
>Goku and Vegeta got their new form by training
>Cold got two augmentation forms because he trained
On the other hand, the most overpowered characters (Buu, Gast, XXI) didn't have to train at all...
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>>537449185
why thank you
>>537447943
that's a shame, I've heard people say it for a while but I sure hope the idea that Shueisha is trying to kill this IP just because Toriyama went ahead of us all isn't true.
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>>537451240
>the most overpowered characters (Buu, Gast, XXI) didn't have to train at all...
i think that's the point salagir was trying to make
>goku does all this training (and gives pan PTSD in an absolutely horribly ugly special) to get a new form
>gets insta-killed by XXI with little effort
it's goofy as shit, but i assume his idea was moreso that XXI is a wall that goku can't overcome simply through training to get new forms like he's done previously
of course in practice all that's really gonna mean is another of salagir's OP OCs will probably handle the problem instead
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>>537449819
>They also follow Salagir's mentality that magic is overpowered.
Which is retarded because you can make anything overpowered.
>>537451240
Some anon posted the screenshot of it a few threads back and it was the most 'up your own ass' statement ever.
And makes Moro really funny since it means Toyotaro dunked on the entire concept in advance without even knowing about it. DBM in it's entirely is forever BTFO'd by that one panel of Goku going 'Did you even train?'
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>>537451753
>that goku can't overcome simply through training to get new forms like he's done previously
Which is insanely retarded because Goku rarely trained specifically to get a new form. Form-specific training is very rare in DB.
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>>537451753
>of course in practice all that's really gonna mean is another of salagir's OP OCs will probably handle the problem instead
How mad do you think Salagir is whenever he remembers that Beerus just shit all over his OCs in term of power?
Probably not as much as when he remembers Goku can do the same.
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>>537435763
No because multiverse is "beyond" typical shonen tropes
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>>537451662
You're welcome.
And if Shueisha wanted to kill Dragon Ball, we wouldn't even have gotten Daima.
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Give me funny salagir comment/statement screenshots.
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>>537452740
I only know the one about the ryuken one, the 'beyond that' one and the 'GT is dumb' one (last one is only funny because GT is a masterpiece compared to DBM).
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>>537453041
>beyond that
I want this one specifically
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>>537451914
>Some anon posted the screenshot of it a few threads back and it was the most 'up your own ass' statement ever.
I saw that post, but the anon didn't post a screenshot. Didn't find it on the discord either so maybe it was from the website, or he deleted it.
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>>537453478
>Didn't find it on the discord either so maybe it was from the website, or he deleted it.
It was from an interview at a con or something going by the picture the anon who first posted it had.
Also he's still so full of shit for that, AF had Super Saiyan Baboon and people loved it for a decade straight. Fucking DBM was full of garbage from the start and people still clapped for most of it.
DB fans are actually pretty accepting of stuff, whining and shitposting on 4chan and twitter aisde.
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>>537453478
>>537453847
I need the screenshot of him saying we are beyond shounen tropes. It was on some website.
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>>537454002
You'd need to check on previous threads, I'd do it but it's late and I'm lazy
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>>537452740
Not Salagir, but the main artist said this.
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>>537453478
the only part of the Buu Saga i dislike is everything with Fat Buu and Saiyaman. as soon as Super Buu eats that fat fuck and Gohan (basically) dies, the Saga improves dramatically.
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>>537454339
People who say that have no clue about martial arts. Even the most fantastical DBS fight clearly had Goku using proper form and stances when punching, kicking and all that stuff.
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>>537454535
Everyone I know who does Judo told me that Goku's over-the-shoulder throw on Broly was immaculate.
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>>537453847
>AF had Super Saiyan Baboon and people loved it for a decade straight
I've never met an AF fan, ever. I'm not convinced that all the people who make AF mods for DB games aren't just like 3 guys who are obsessed.
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>>537454715
>I've never met an AF fan
I am here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kXYiU_JCYtU
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>>537454715
I never met a DBM fan either and yet they clearly exist.
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>>537453847
It also had DB Legend, which was basically 'DB Pajeet Edition', and yet it was STILL well received.
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>>537453847
>It was from an interview at a con or something going by the picture the anon who first posted it had.
Checking out the archives, he said it's from the discord, but I can't find that post.

Pic related is another he said is from the discord. I don't think that anon was lying about the "I'm trying to go further than this" comment, but I can't find it.
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>>537454853
DAN DAN KOKORO HIKARETEKU SONO MABUSHII EGAO NI
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>>537454535
Yeah. Not to mention Dragon Ball uses supernatural martial arts, Kaio tells Goku that spirit bomb is a martial arts technique. Dragon Ball was always a mix of real life martial arts technique with supernatural powers. Even Ultra Instinct is something that has roots in martial arts (As it's much better to move on instinct than thinking then doing)
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i think what makes salagir so bad, its not only he is pretentious, but a pretentious waifufag
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>>537440785
Yes.
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is there any archive that shows all the outfits the cacs in breakers wear?
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>>537459043
Zaiko ported most of them to Xenoverse 2, so you can check his VGM and Patreon for names and screenshots.
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>>537459623
I wear the FUCK outta that cozy ass baggy long sleeve tee. These and MoonKeku's thicc and muscular SYF outfits have gone quintuple Diamond in my Xenoverse.
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https://voca.ro/1mSoynUbhqjj
I had fun with this
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>>537460142
Dare I say, Toyotaro is just as bad as Salagir, just in the opposite direction. Salagir is too edgy, too up his own ass, and too trapped in the 90's — but Toyotaro's work is too childish, he can't write a serialized narrative to save his life, and he's still trying to move the series toward that tacky AF aesthetic. I don't like either one of them.
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>>537459623
do you have a link? combing through that sounds like fun to me, I don't know why

>>537460142
I really do hope toyo gets to do another dragonball arc and they animate it I need controlled Broly so badly same with ego and black freiza just because I want to hear Broly have an attack name to shout someday
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>>537460771
>Toyotaro's work is too childish
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>>537460885
Brother, this is one page from over a hundred chapters into the manga...
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>>537461427
There are a lot of edgy panels. Toyo loves his violence.
Toyo's problem (modern DB too) is he keeps referencing old shit instead of moving forward. Toriyama moved forward at a brisk pace and constantly introduced brand new concepts. We keep getting rehashed plots and villains.
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>>537460142
>Salagir, have you ever... Trained?
>Le non. Ve are beyond le training
KEK. Inspired me to do this.
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>>537460771
Both of them are bad, but Toyotaro tries to understand Toriyama's style, even if he is influenced too much by Toei's movies, and isn't much of a writer. Salagir shows contempt for Dragon Ball at times, and would rather push his own style (Magic/science solve everything, while regular ki users are all jobbers), and OCs, all the while he claims to follow Dragon Ball's spirit.
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Uub will come out incredibly strong (with hacks) and will be the key to beating XXI

Why is this possible? (Even though Salagir said we're "beyond that")
Because he's reading about magic and learning under the greatest (shittiest) Gary Stu ever, Zen Buu. Possibly the worst offender of DBM shit writing, beyond Bra, beyond shitting on Goku. The pinnacle of trash.
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>>537469790
>The pinnacle of trash.
And he has a lot of competition!
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>>537470636
Gast is a masterpiece of writing compared to Buu/Bra/Vegeto imo. Hell, fuck Uub. "Master Buu". Lol.
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>>537472503
He doesn't hog the spotlight as much as those three, but all of his swerves were insulting.
>His magic is so powerful, he is the only one who can curl up Buu into a ball
>SS3 Vegeta destroyed his head but he regenerated from that anyway
>He can undo transformations, all so Vegetto is emasculated
He's the only one who Buu found to be a threat, and is the only one had a real fight with XXI... It says something about DBM's writing quality that he's not complained that much about, since there are much worse characters.
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>>537383387
>Vegeta, if you come back I'll take a bath with you!
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This is so bad. Good Dragon Ball comic you got there lol.

This line alone >>537475306 sets something as stupid as Daima above these rancid fanfictions. Toriyama soul still persists in Daima even with all the flaws and bad execution. Can't say the same for fanfics.
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>>537467505
Pan!
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>>537432472
Cute
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>>537431629
>>537432472
This is adorable
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Thoughts? Who should receive this fit?
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Why has modern DB made Trunks a Hag Loli slayer TWICE
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>>537478557
its actually THRICE if we count the time Pan was thirsting for Trunks in the desert planet
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>>537478557
Why not?
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>>537478707
Pan is just a regular loli.
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>>537469790
>>537472503
>>537475493
I kind of like Zen Buu conceptually, but the writing got way too messy.
I like that there is a Buu that went on to absorb the masters of different fields all across the universe until he became enlightened, but I don't think the writers have the skill to write a character like this without totally derailing the plot. Salagir's favoritism demands Zen Buu to have more importance than he really should have. There's a round where Zen Buu goes around handing out power-ups to the fighters and at that point you're just writing the Buu Show. Then there's how he has multiple meltdowns and tries to take over the tournament, all while being so strong they imply he'd beat Vegito. The character gets so stupid they just deus ex machina him out the plot.
It made me appreciate how Beerus just has a fat powerlevel and he's neutral in a way that's actually mature.
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>>537478973
>accidentally
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>>537480632
Yes. Happy little accidents!
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>>537481204
Yamcha's wife is pure!
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I like Mai x Trunks because of how fucking random and asinine it is. Shitposting and pretending it works to confuse people is fun.
Mai x Trunks is worse than 99% of crackships and probably was never once thought up prior to DBS existing. Never again will I say any plausible relationship is too "unrealistic" and out of nowhere to happen.
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>>537480318
Buu at times is more of a plot device than a character.
>Constantly messes with the teleportation device so fights don't end early
>Gave suggestions/power ups during the third round to to make fights "interesting"
>Somehow corrupted Grand Kaioshin so he allows chaotic beings in the tournament
>He's so intelligent he can copy the universal travel to the molecule, but can't use it. This is to introduce the plot point that only beings from the birds universe can (for some reason) use the universal travel technology
He's also way too powerful like you said, and unlike Beerus, he's constantly meddling while being invincible.
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>>537481531
the best justification you can give is she's canonically a womanchild who gets flustered from handholding early on.
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>>537481662
>Trying to justify it
Kek
Goten x Bra is SOON
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>>537481742
cute
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>>537481742
>Kissing another girl
That's forbidden love!
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>>537481531
>Never again will I say any plausible relationship is too "unrealistic" and out of nowhere to happen.
I think TrunksxMai is Toriyama's way of doing completely random ships, much like GokuxChichi was one (She did show up a few times in the anime after the first dragon balls search, but in the manga she disappeared up until the 23rd tournament). It just doesn't work as well because GokuxChichi was a brick joke, while TrunksxMai just happens out of nowhere, and it only works because Mai's personality was changed.
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>>537481396
A pure pitslut
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>>537482741
Yamcha's so lucky... In 1200 years!
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>>537483043
do you think they'd give yamcha an immortality pass at that point?
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>>537481204
>>537482741
So what are the bodies of the glass race like? Lagss' skin and hair are made of, glass, but Vidro's skin look like flesh, and she has normal hair, so are there many different types of glass race? How do they reproduce?
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>>537461760
what chapter is this from? 60-something? it took 5 years for Toyotaro to draw another gory panel after the one where Goku Black is impaled by Trunks? and then it was another 2 years after that before this >>537460885 page? so we get what, one mature and violent page every 2 years? yawn.
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>>537483847
Even if he doesn't have immortality, he should have his body even while dead. Although only hving the chance to get married after you're dead for a thousand years is depressing.
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>>537482719
Trunks x Mai is 10x as bad as Goku x chichi for 2 reasons
1. Trunks and Mai had never once talked or been in the same room during any piece of DB media
2. Mai had to be turned into a child just to be together
It's so asinine. This is genuinely unpredictable.
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>>537483981
If you want to be persnickety like that, the frequency of excessively violent Toriyama panels is about the same if not less. Toyo also goes harder on the edge aspect while Toriyama makes them brief. >537461760 Toriyama would never draw this. Look how he handled the piccolo shooting chest.
Toyo is more violent than Toriyama.
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>>537485025
i don't read manga, but i remember DBZ being signficantly more violent and gory than Super, even including the 3 or 4 pages from the DBS manga that may never be animated because Shueisha won't let Dragon Ball do R-rated violence anymore.
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>>537484786
Yeah I feel it's just a bad repeat of a previous joke. GokuxChichi is weird, but there is a punchline that was setup over 100 chapters before, so even if the way they got together was random, it still had some sort of setup. TrunksxMai is just a crackship. The audacity of making Mai either being a pedophile, or grooming Trunks is mind blowing lmao.
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>>537485521
>The DBS manga has her directly state she's waiting for him to grow up before pursuing him
Genuinely grooming tier.
Is this more or less creepy than him kissing the little Mai?
>>537485509
You have to remember DBS is much shorter than the Toriyama manga and Toyo was under huge restrictions for what he could draw for all of the arcs the DBS anime did. For what it is, it's violent.
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>>537485897
>Toyo was under huge restrictions for what he could draw
i totally believe this. you're right. in hindsight, i shouldn't blame Toyotaro when his hands are probably tied up in mandates about how violent or emotional characters can be, or how much "arcing" characters can do. i'm pretty sure they've got some Sonic the Hedgehog stuff going on over at Shueisha and Toei as far as like... holding Dragon Ball back because they're afraid to move their plant to a bigger planter, where it can grow and flourish. they'd rather maintain a status quo and tell procedural stories.
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>>537483973
I don't think it's ever said that the glass tribe are literally made of glass, just that they can turn things into glass and generate it. Lagss's tits look plenty squishy at least, so I don't think her body is literally like glass
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>>537486691
I see. I guess the way her skin and hair looks so reflective threw me off... Still, it's odd Lagss has this unusual design, and then they went ahead and made Vidro into just a blue woman.

>Sole Survivor
Kek. I wonder if SDBH kept going, they would introduce more and more glass people.
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Kamin x Goten
Lagss x Trunks
Video x Yamcha
Any questions?
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Glass tribe women are made for human men
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>>537487393
>Lagss x Trunks
Lmao
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>>537427361
Proof?
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>>537487630
Anons are right. Vidro really is a pitslut.
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>>537487630
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>>537480797
Cute
>>537473198
Rude
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>>537487320
In the manga Vidro's hair and skin are shiny and kind of reflective like Lagss' are, I think her just being a blue woman was the promo anime fucking up. Their bodies look to have some qualities of glass like that, but not the density of it. Though Vidro's from a different timeline, maybe the glass tribe there have some differences aswell
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>>537489453
I see. Although I don't think it's a problem with just the anime, in some cards her hair looks normal. The light reflection on her hair stands out a lot less when others such as Goku also have that light reflection, an issue Lagss avoided by also having a longer, more solid looking hair.

It seems the manga is the only one that completely avoided this (Such as the cover you posted and >>537483043), since nobody but her and Lagss have that light reflection on their hair, but I failed to notice this, since it was around so often in Super, I just didn't notice that Vidro having the light reflection in the manga is unusual.
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>>537489453
>Plapping her feels like slamming your pelvis against glass
>Glass pussy
Gents how do we feel about this?
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So, who is your horse in the rights dispute? Shueisha or Capsule Corp Tokyo?
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>>537491003
>Gents how do we feel about this?
Her having a glass ass would awaken in me an instinctual fear of being cut by glass if I were too rough. Even worse if she has a glass pussy...

She's cute, but I'd not hit it. I'm terrified of glass breaking...
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>>537491003
Yamcha didn't seem to think there was anything unusal with how she felt, so unless it's said otherwise, glass tribe girls must feel no different from a normal human girl. Her pussy walls being like shredded glass would be a hilariously tragic outcome for Yamcha tho lol
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>>537492223
She also had her arm pierced by Cooler, and that looked like any other time a character gets pierced, so her skin is just a little reflective, but not actually glass-like.

>Her pussy walls being like shredded glass would be a hilariously tragic outcome for Yamcha tho lol
That'd be so mean.
>Yamcha waits 1200 years to get married with her
>It finally happens
>Shredded glass pussy
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>>537491690
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>>537491690
Unironically Capsule Corp Tokyo. Dragon Ball already has time travel and multiverses, let it go full Marvel/DC. I would rather that Dragon Ball end after 20 years of too much content than being drip fed by Shueisha.
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>>537491690
>Shueisha wins
>Same old sidelining

>CCT wins
>Iyoku pushes for cheap fanservice
>Canonized movie villains
>High chance of becoming DBH levels of writing
>Some chance of Vegetafagging
Maybe I'm too pessimistic, but I don't think either one winning is good. Maybe CCT winning would be better if Toriyama still were alive, but now I don't think they'd be much better than Shueisha...

>>537493254
>let it go full Marvel/DC
If you don't know what that means, then you you shouldn't be asking for it. If you do know, why would you want that incomprehensible clusterfuck? DB continuity is messy enough as is.
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>>537491690
Whoever hasn't been in charge for the last 10 years. I will support anyone who hasn't been in creative control since before 2014. I heard Iyoku suggested Super Broly (the best thing DBS ever produced) and making Super Saiyan 4 canon, so I like him, even if Toriyama and Toyotaro COMPLETELY FUCKED UP the canon SSJ4 idea. I can't fault Iyoku for the poor execution. But I'm not sure if or when he's had any real creative control. Who was showrunning and manga writing for Heroes? Heroes was fuckin' exciting. They were better utilizing DBS characters than DBS was. We never would've seen Zamasu run hands with Jiren without Heroes.

I wish they would just reboot and do another Buu Saga sequel that pulls from the best of everything. I don't think you can un-fuck-up Vegeta, Gohan, Piccolo, or Freeza as characters anymore in the current canon narrative.
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Say what you will about the video games, but they've produced some damn good waifus
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Toriyama was never a good writer and his editor was the sole reason DBZ was good.
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>>537497410
the fact that we dont have 21 in sparking is fucked up.
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>>537492807
>her skin is just a little reflective, but not actually glass-like.
Ok I'm relieved.
>>537491728
I'd imagine it's tough glass. We joke about sex being rough but realistically you aren't breaking reinforced glass/quartz unless you're a z fighter.
>>537492223
>hilariously tragic outcome for Yamcha
Toriyama would do that.
>>537491690
Both sides are awful. We aren't getting shit for years and when we do it's gonna be DBS shit, or worse.
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>>537498312
>DBS shit
DBS tier*
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>>537497924
The fact that she's in legends and they gave her lab coat 21's moveset makes me think that the rights issue holding her back is nonsense, if they can let her in legends they can let her in xenoverse 2 and breakers and sparking zero if they want, I think the lawsuit just prevents a lot of shit from getting done beecause Shueisha doesn't really have anyone to handle dragonball stuff anymore, the way sparking zero implimented Shallot is extremely pitiful he feels like a " wanna see more? buy legends!" kinda character just like in xenoverse 2 they constantly tease 21's majin form yet nevr show it, she has a whole PQ where she transforms but it's the supervillain modes instead of the majin form she even starts talking like her majin self in some of her quotes not only normally but definitely in that PQ, it's weird because it's not like Shallot and 21 are unrecognizable to the fanbase like Hackiyachi kinda is to those who weren't around in the 90s let alone Ozetto who americans definitely don't recognize

How come Aeos doesn't have knife ears and I'm almost certain 21 in majin form doesn't have knife ears either then again I also thought super saiyan 4 didn't have hair going down to their legs so I dunno
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>>537498526
>How come Aeos doesn't have knife ears
She does though, in her unleashed form anyway. In her midget form we never actually see her ears for some reason, but there's no real reason to think they wouldn't be sharp as well in some fashion
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It's unreal that xenoverse 2 has insane bullshit anti-cheat to prevent you from using graphical mods in multiplayer, yet every person in PVP is an obvious cheater.
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>>537498526
And majin 21 has them too, they're kinda hard to miss honestly
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>>537497924
if i was ArcSys i'd never let them use this hoe again.
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>>537498526
>>537501263
I'm a bit out of the loop, what's the deal with the useage of 21 again? Does ArcSys have the rights to her or something?
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>>537497551
Trvke
The fact the canon in Dragon Ball is in a erratic CYOA mess is proof alone.
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>>537491690
>Shueisha or Shueisha II
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>>537502254
Uncanny valley for db
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>>537483043
Only a 1000 more years to go, can you keep up?
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>>537501263
>>537502028
i don't know. i'm just saying if it were me, and ArcSys had a say as to what she could appear in, i wouldn't let them use her again till they pay for FighterZ 2. or AT LEAST fix FighterZ.
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>>537456738
>Yeah. Not to mention Dragon Ball uses supernatural martial arts,
Exactly! Those people who not survive a murim or cultivator story.
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>>537460771
Both are bad but Toyotaro is still better.
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>>537467505
Cute!
>>537468157
>>537460142
Perfect.
>>537472503
Of course the pinnacle of magic is a retarded medieval castle instead of something asia-inspired.
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>>537475493
This shit looks like a tumblr cartoon or one of those cringe western cartoon trying to be anime like High Guardian Spice or whatever.
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>>537460142
Dragon Ball's future is looking bright.
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>>537480318
>I like that there is a Buu that went on to absorb the masters of different fields all across the universe until he became enlightened
You shouldn't, because it's stupid, you literally can't become enlightened that way. If you had a character like that, the entire point should be that they are frustrated that no matter how much they absorb and steal, they get nowhere closer to enlightenment.
>>537481646
They were too lazy to come up with a way to distribute power-boosts in a natural way that would involve each characters and universes actually interacting, like Goku delivering some tips to those he thinks need them or Kakarot having his waku-waku brain go into overdrive from being surrounded by such titans or Bulma casually talking with the tech universe guys and dropping tech facts that make them instantly go implement those new concepts into their gears.
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>>537481531
Mai x Trunks still has more build up than Bulma x Vegeta.
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>>537493254
>let it go full Marvel/DC.
Kill yourself, now.
>>537491690
CCT seems it seemed to be who Toriyama was leaning toward and I think DB is big enough to get it's own company instead of being part of a bloated roster like Shueisha's.
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>>537493254
>let it go full Marvel/DC.
Love yourself, now.
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>>537038131
danganball
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>>537502028
>Does ArcSys have the rights to her or something?
Not as far as we know. She's a Toriyama design.
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>>537491690
CCT. It is obvious that Shueisha only cares about One Piece.
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>>537493254
>let it go full Marvel/DC
Put the barrel in your mouth and pull the trigger.
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>>537493254
>let it go full Marvel/DC
Put the steak in your mouth and bite down.
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>>537505093
>>537505343
>S-s-someone doesn't want me to kill myself, right? Right?
No, kill yourself, now.
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>>537495547
Goku Black is infinitely better than a Broly parody who's a caveman and doesn't even know how to speak a full sentence.
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>>537493254
>let it go full Marvel/DC
If it stays in the japanese hands, I am all for it. Toriyama forgot what made Dragon ball an absolute juggernaught.
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>>537500392
man, she and chrona are so sexy in those forms it's a shame we'll never see them again because heroes is done and xenoverse treats heroes like something to never touch so we won't see Aeos there either
>>537500942
Toriyama sure loved that pose Caulifla has the same one in his line art
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>>537493254
>>537505093
>>537505343
>>537505463
Not only you should kill yourself for your garbage take, you should also make it slow and painful for this cringe samefagging.
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>>537495547
>>537505435
Both are good, DBS was good and Daima was great, keep your sperging hatred for everything DB in /dbs/.
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You'd think they'd pander more to the waifu crowd with 21 especially with her being a strong fighter, there must be something holding them back from using her more. Like look at how hard they went with Kale, Caulifla and Kefla, and it payed off for them.

Just going by the average for some of the biggest smut sites online (and I'm sure there's a lot more out there for all of them), she's one of the top most popular girls already. Android 18 15.1k > Bulma 12.4k > Chi-Chi 7.3k > Videl 5.7k > Android 21 4.4k > Caulifla 4.1k > Kefla 3.1k > Kale 2.7k > Cheelai 1.8k > Launch 1.1k > Vados 1k
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>>537505646
>and Daima was great
nobody even mentioned that flop of a series
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>>537505463
>Toriyama forgot what made Dragon ball an absolute juggernaught.
Dragon Ball has never been bigger, what are you on about? It's more of a juggernaut than ever.
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>>537505646
I really didn't like Daima at all.
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>>537505727
I understand that you have trouble reading due to being a braindead retard and all but >>537495547
did.
>MUH FLOP COPE!!!
Record breaking revenue for the franchise BTW. More awards than any other DB show BTW.
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>>537505786
It's okay to have shit taste, just keep it to your containment thread.
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>>537493254
What an amazing idea. Imagine the fucking KINO we'll get from a Marvel/DC Dragon Ball. A new yearly movie just like the Z movies sounds great!
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>>537505463
I don't think being raped in russian jail and having a gay son that bottom for some pink haired femboy is what made DB a juggernaut.
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>>537505690
talking about waifus, i remember hating the buu look of chi-chi but Kamehasutra made it look so fucking breedable
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>>537506061
>Get blown the fuck out
>I-i-i was only pretending!
Cool cope, retard.
Good luck having yearly Z movies without new canon arc for them to rip off.
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>>537505545
What's wrong? Why don't you like Dragon Ball? Shouldn't you want more Dragon Ball?
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>>537506149
I meant in a way that there are multiple writers working on different projects. I didn't say that they should hand over the franchise to the Americans.
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>>537506353
I want more Dragon Ball, not DC or Marvel. That's the point. Did you ever even READ your average DC run? Hell, did you ever read the Batman webtoon? THAT'S what you're asking for.
You might as well ask for Tumblr to run the franchise.
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>>537506446
>I meant in a way that there are multiple writers working on different projects.
Which is an awful idea, that's how comics got ruined, one retard worm his way in and start imposing absolutely retarded shit on every other writers until the entire thing is ruined like american comics.
How do you think Spiderman ended in the absolutely desolate state that it's currently in? Because 2 retards with super specific headcanons wormed their way in and hanged around long enough to get senior positions that allowed them to force their retarded shit on every Spiderman comics.
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>>537506446
>I didn't say that they should hand over the franchise to the Americans.
If you adopt an american formula, it will drift into american hands. They've actively been trying for decades already, you'd be opening a door for them to infect Japan's biggest franchise after Pokemon. As if the localisation bullshit wasn't already bad enough with the forced TFS jokes and reference they slide in.
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>>537506176
>Kamehasutra
The artstyle was always so weird to me
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>>537505690
we honestly legit don't know especially with the state the franchise is in right now 21's last focus was the super hero DLC of xenoverse 2 where she fights alongside the gammas and apparently chats with hedo off screen so there's definite love for her
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>>537506718
>If you adopt an american formula, it will drift into american hands.
Or just as bad: Westaboo hands.
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I just want more Dragon Ball.
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>>537507119
Just watch Paw Patrol and pretend it's called Dragon Ball then.
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>menacing goat demon to blue perfect cell in a sports bra

how did they greenlit this
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>>537507201
I want to see Moro's tits
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>>537506176
Speaking of Buu saga designs, I feel like I'm in the small minority of people that really don't like Bulma's look for that period, partly because she's also got the same haircut as her 8 year old son, and I find that hard to fap to. I think her hairstyle in Super is actually a lot better in pulling off the milf look desu
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>>537507198
I didn't like Daima.
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>>537506176
>>537507323
I liked Buu chichi as a kid but as a young adult I do not like her design. The balding is horrendous.
I like this chichi design a lot. She looks like a Saiyan.
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>even Bleach got a red stage this year
It's over.....
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>>537507428
It was milquetoast as fuck. Not one interesting new concept was brought to the table. It was rehashes, the most boring antagonists in the franchise, and a shitty adventure arc everyone skips.
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>>537507428
>>537507817
Crying more won't change it was great, anon.
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>>537507881
How?
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>no response
See? Daima is hot fucking garbage.
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>>537507667
Well not like there was much variation in her designs anyway, her early Z look is probably the best though
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>>537507881
Nah.
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>>537508045
>>537508754
>>537509054
>How dare you not explain how my tears don't change anything!
Here's a pity (you) for your samefagging.
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>No argument AGAIN
>"Wahhh don't insult my favorite franchise! I piss my pants when someone says something mean about my babies show!"
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>>537509332
>I HATE DRAGON BALL!!!!! GIVE ME ATTENTION!!!
And yet here you are, after watching everything DB and begging for approval on a DB thread.
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>>537509395
Clean the tears off of your keyboard. Most people here don't like Muppet babies forma de dragon ball. It's sad you can't even give me one reason I should like it. One cool thing it did.
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>>537509332
Got bullied off /dbs/ again, cumdump?
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>>537509505
>N-n-no u
>M-m-most people agree with me, they just don't say it and tell me I'm retarded because...no u!
The overwhelming majority of people loved Daima so much, DB literally broke an industry wide record and you're continually told to fuck off by everyone whenever you open your mouth.
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>>537509505
Bait used to be believable.
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>>537509505
>Muh muppet babies!!!!!!
I didn't know Muppet Babies just showed Kermit as he was in the first muppet episode.
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>>537509656
Daipa didn't break shit.
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>>537509765
He probably doesn't even know what Muppets are, he's just repeating an unfunny meme he decided to make his actual opinion.
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>>537510031
Literally broke the record in revenue for DB, Bandai and Toei within a single fiscal year.
>random scat babble
/dbs/ is that way.
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>the sheer amount of samefagging
Why does daima getting made fun of trigger him? Normal members of society can see people with different view points and learn from them or ignore them.
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>>537510158
>Claim people agree with him despite nobody siding with him
>That make people actively tell him he's retarded
>It's samefagging! Please, anyone, agree with me now!
That's just pathetic.
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>>537510158
No, normal members of society pay a circus owner a few dollars to come laugh and throw peanuts at your kind.
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>>537510125
>Dokkan's 10th anniversary
>Legends
>Sparking Zero
>Daipa contributing anything
LMAO!
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>>537510158
>I-i-i'm just making fun of it!
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>he doesn't realize he's "debating" with two distinct people
He's retarded. He's a shit schizo too. Fun schizos write paragraphs. He's a flopped schizo who enjoys a flopped baby series.
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>woahjaks
Gentlemen... Show him the door.
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>>537510404
>Dokkan, legends and Sparking 0
>Making money for Toei
Massive self own.
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>>537510419
Based
>>537510520
We've been showing you the door for a while, this isn't whatever shithole you crawled out of.
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>Daipafag
>jaks
Grim....
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He's never once explained why daima is good as a story or even narratively decent. At best he says it made money.
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>>537510436
>I'm actually two people I swear!
>He doesn't realize he's being lynched by the entire thread
Say 'flop' 50 more times, lone samefag, it's totally gonna change Daima's massive success.
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>>537510520
>>537510676
>C-c-come to me and fight him off my /dbs/ spergs!!!
This is /dbg/, anon.
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>DaimaGods
>Wojacks
Based.
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>>537510708
>Everyone keep curbstomping my claim it was a flop, fuck! Let me change the subject!
Man, Daima just keep getting better with how hard it break your mind.
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>he literally cannot produce a single sentence on why daima is a masterpiece
Grimdark maximus.
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>>537510749
>>537510630
>>537510380
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>>537511058
Cringe cope
>>537511218
Based, like OUR HERO!
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>>537510873
>He got beaten out of his 'flop' and 'people totally agree with me cope'
Easy as usual.
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Strongest pokemon trainer btw
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oh boy it's time for unusable thread hours again i see
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>>537511058
Nigger babble.
>>537511268
White gospel.
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>>537510419
>Cried twice about it without even daring to reply
Bull's eye.
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>>537511418
This nigga is ACK tier
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>>537511391
Wrong pic, meant for >>537511218
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>>537511418
>The thread is making fun of a retard?! I can't use the thread like that!
Just talk about what you want to talk, don't be a pussy.
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>>537511562
Happens to everyone, anon.
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>>537511560
The thread cumdump was always like that, just let the thread bully him away for a few months again and it'll calm down.
He never recovered from the threads being positive about Daima while it aired.
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>>537511726
I still remember his meltdown when the Tamagami 3 fight happened and everyone agreed it was one of the best fight in the franchise.
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>>people totally agree with me cope
>>>cope
https://www.reddit.com/r/dbz/comments/1ikz5si/dragon_ball_daima_is_still_horrible_dont_think_im/
https://www.reddit.com/r/dbz/comments/1gefcgi/i_hate_dragon_ball_daima_and_i_cant_be_the_only/

>Series has no people talking about or theorizing anywhere online
>Zero gatherings in any city to watch it live like DBS
Yeah. Daima was a flop.
>B-but muh mo-
Inflation and Toriyama's death.
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>>537511878
>IT'S NOT A COPE!!!!
Literally nobody in this thread has been on your side despite you screaming for help multiple times
>Series has no people talking about or theorizing anywhere online
I know you're desperate, anon but why lie? People are talking about it right now in this very thread and you have endless youtube videos every day
>Yeah, Daima was a flop because I said so since it broke my mind despite every metric saying otherwise....STOP MENTIONING IT'S MASSIVE SUCCESS, IT DOESN'T COUNT!!!!!
Poor anon, he knew his dogshit argument was a flop before he even sent it.
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>>537511878
Here's your pity (you).
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>>537511878
>free lap dances if Goku beats Jiren
based spics
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>Can't even sell out the hideous toys
I thought Daima was a success and everyone loved it...
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>>537511878
>Okay, nobody here agrees with me but reddit does!
I wasn't involved in your meltdown but now I'm fully against you.
>>537512290
And then Goku lost.
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>>537511878
>linking reddit
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>>537511878
Did Daima do anything similar?
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>Daima wasn't a flop
Post a diplomatic incident Daima caused
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>>537512368
>P-please I'm begging, stop mentioning the record breaking revenue, ratings and awards, I have a random twitter screenshot claiming random shit and no more Daima merch, please ignore the daima merch literally being release as we talk!
You thought right, anon, it is a beloved success.
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>>537512505
>Mexico being retarded is a diplomatic incident
They had a diplomatic incident over fucking Gwen Stacy from Spiderman, anon.
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What is going on, here?
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>>537511878
>Plebblit
Instant loss.
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Daima fails for me because it didn't even try to espouse any philosophical or even philosophy-adjacent themes.
>OG explored themes of an older generation passing the torch to young up-and-comings, and spoke of how such altruistic and selfless values could actually change people (Krillin, Tien and Piccolo being prime examples)
>it's also not afraid to delve into tragedy, killing off important characters and using serious overtones to demonstrate that death has weight even in this fantasy universe
>Z expanded the scope of the adventure and tackled subjects like nature vs nurture and classism (Raditz being viewed as low-class for his birth, Vegeta's elite status losing to Goku's status as a low-class Saiyan), Machiavellianism (Frieza's dictatorial rule), the ethical dilemma of playing God (the use of biotechnology and synthetic biology to create the Androids and Cell), and moral relativism (Buu only doing "bad" things due to not understanding the concept of good vs bad, Kid Buu not truly being "evil" but simply an existence born of chaos)
>GT postulated that over-reliance on mystical help (the Dragon Balls) could lead to humanity growing weaker in the long run--paralleling how many people are content to offer "help" by simply stating that they'll be praying to their chosen higher power
>it also touched upon transcendentalism, with Goku ascending to a higher plane of existence at the end
>Super concerned itself with ethics and perspective, as detailed by Zamasu and Gowasu's tea ceremony and the fact that Zamasu's heart is canonically pure, as he truly believed he was doing good
>the ending of Super was literally a clash of opposing philosophical ideals (Goku vs Jiren) set against the backdrop of a titanic battle

Daima had nothing like that whatsoever. I'm a Dragon Ball fan. I want some intellectual gristle to chew upon, and Daima presented me with absolutely none. It quite literally only appeals to children and slack-jawed, drooling idiots.
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>>537512596
The /dbs/ reject got bullied out again and decided to make it our problem so we started bullying him too. He's currently reached the 'linking reddit threads' stage of his usual meltdowns.
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>>537511878
i like that both posts are from the same guy
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>>537512725
>Jiren pic
>Wall of text
Keep the schizo 'scholar' posting to /dbs/, please and thank you.
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>>537512596
Wrong 21
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>>537512596
i can tell you what SHOULD be going on here, and that's more 21 discussion
will we see an official 21 DLC for SZ? or will someone have to actually make a proper mod for her with custom moves to satisfy her (our) cravings?
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>>537512749
Make sense since they were both made by the anon linking them too.
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>>537512749
Kek I didn't even check I just picked random links off of google.
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>>537512841
All of the comments in the threads agreeing with him? Me too. Every Daima hater? All me!
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>>537512815
>will we see an official 21 DLC for SZ?
Who knows? So far there's been no pattern one way or another when it comes to Sparking 0 DLC.
> or will someone have to actually make a proper mod for her with custom moves to satisfy her (our) cravings?
I'm sure there's already one if you dig.
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Ok let's see if I got this right:
Cynthia won
Goku lost to Vegeta 3 times
Goku will never surpass Whis or Zeno
Daima is a flop
Anything else?
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>>537512857
>searches for "daima sucks"
>finds posts about people going "daima sucks"
i wonder what will happen if i search for like "dbz sucks"
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>>537512954
>A bunch of redditors agree on something with me on reddit threads I posted and linked here!
So you're factually wrong? Cause that's the only thing reddit agreeing with you indicate.
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>>537512857
>>537512954
>He really is going all out on the 'Reddit agrees with me since 4chan agrees I'm retarded'
Lol. Lmao.
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>>537513073
>Anything else?
Goku couldn't do anything against XXI and it was a great realistic final.
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Cynthia has the highest level pokemon in the franchise.
Goku is a weakling who loses most fights he enters.
Daima failed to meet expectations.
Goku couldn't do anything against XXI and it was a great realistic final.
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>>537513083
>>finds posts about people going "daima sucks"
Posts made by the same redditor too, not even multiple people.
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>>537512971
>I'm sure there's already one
as with most SZ mods, best we've got is a 2 slot character that reuses moves from other characters and has 18's voice
making REAL custom moves feels like some kind of special technique that only a few select modders know how to do somehow
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>>537513073
>>537513293
I think that's pretty much it when it come to retarded takes /dbg/ tore apart multiple times.
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>>537513372
That's weird, I heard Unreal Engine 5 or whatever was super easy to mod.
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>>537513372
>making REAL custom moves feels like some kind of special technique that only a few select modders know how to do somehow
With time they get better and better. Already they're making good looking stuff.
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>>537505646
Daima did flop, bro. I liked it, but it objectively flopped. Shueisha even came out and switched up, claiming now that Daima wasn't actually the big special anniversary project after all.
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>>537513421
I'm sure you can find more on the DBM discord and comments. Shit like 'DB isn't a martial art manga' despite Toriyama calling it that to his dying day.
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>>537513545
>objectively
By what objective metric? Viewership? It hit number 1 over and over.
Rating? It's better rated than DBS and even had a perfect score until One Piece fans got mad it rated higher than One Piece and review bombed it but it's still the highest rated DB show.
Revenue? It was literally the best fiscal year for DB.
Awards? It's the only DB show that received one as far as I know.
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>>537505435
i love Black, but he is a 10/10 character trapped in a 3/10 arc. at least Broly is in an 8+/10 movie.
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>>537513619
That's after Daima, anon. For the fiscal year until 2026.
Daima is the Full Year result where it's above Gundam as it release in 2024 for the fiscal year 2025.
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>>537513489
it wouldn't surprise me if it's not actually that complex, but without easily accessed tutorials you kinda just have to figure it all out yourself
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I wonder if he realizes 3 different people in the current thread expressed a distaste for Daima.
>>537513619
>>537505727
>>537505786
Are all different people.
Anyway I'm done.
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>>537513761
>Flop
>Incomplete rating from non-anime websites
>It's still the highest on rotten tomatoes
Self own.
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>>537514036
>I wonder if anyone was fooled by my samefagging?
>Please anyone, believe my cope that only one anon was laughing at me
>Anyway I'm so humiliated I feel the need to announce I'm running away in shame
And don't come back, bitch.
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>>537512815
Android 21 has as a Buu android, the power to get a million different forms from other villains and would would look good in most of them.
It is staggering that they don't use such a goldmine more often.
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>>537514036
/dbg/chads once again achieved complete victory against a retarded tourist.
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>>537514245
Calm down Redbro. You'll have a heart attack. I aint runnin away either.
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>>537513971
From what I heard, Unreal Engine is also a boring piece of shit to work with.
Also I don't think Sparking 0 is the kind of game to attract the giga-autists kind of modders like XV2. It seems more 'normiegroid' friendly, which also mean low effort normie mods.
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>>537514319
>Actually I'm not done because you made it too embarrassing, I'll stay as a punching bag more! Take that!
Cool cope.
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>>537514246
Absorptions aren't cute
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>>537514319
>Redbro.
Redgods won again?
>>537514246
Nice armpit.
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>>537514246
i'm hoping this cooler 21 trend helps the idea catch on a little, buu absorptions are popular enough that i'm surprised it never happened before
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>>537514527
Nah I'm just endin hostilities cuz I'm bored. You seem to still be aggressive. Calm down and tell us about your day, redbro.
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What's the best Goku fansong you've ever heard?
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>>537514696
>Nah I'm just endin hostilities cuz I'm bored.
Loser cope. Pure defeat.
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>>537514696
>>537514793
I don't have the Kengan version sadly
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>>537514725
https://youtu.be/l01AMCBG0Wk?si=ivs0DpJzTa_HXXBb
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>>537514793
Now tell us about your day
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>>537514906
I said Goku, not Uub.
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>>537514036
and none of those people you quoted are me, who also dislikes Daima. fuck Daima.
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>>537516034
Cope attempt at a redo. Accept defeat
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>>537516034
Kek.
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>>537516034
Nice tears, anon
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I fear this is the final sign that they're done with Breakers.
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>>537516034
Based.
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>>537516253
>>537516456
>>537516546
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>PhoneCHAD
I kneel...
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>>537516969
Nice inspect element, samefag. Really highlight your desperation.
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>>537516762
not exactly promising when even fighterz is getting shit but breakers isn't
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>>537517206
You can't inspect element on phone schizobro...
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>>537517541
I'm on phone and I just did it. What kind of trash phone do you have? Can't you come up with a better lie?
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>Knows how to inspect element on phone
See? He projects constantly.
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>>537517653
>he's just lying now
pathetic
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>>537517757
>>537517814
>N-n-no u
Good job confirming you were samefagging and got caught.
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>>537517757
>>537517814
>Backpedaling in a panic this hard
Daima won again.
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DBS manga lost, GT lost, Daima won.
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>>537513545
>and switched up, claiming now that Daima wasn't actually the big special anniversary project after all.
That's actually the opposite of what happened. At first they said it wasn't a 40th anniversary project and it was a coincidence but then it became a hit and now they say it was the 40th anniversary anime. You can go check on the official 40th anniversary website right now and see they now say that's what Daima was.
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>>537517653
You are a nasty nigga for knowing this.
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>>537518264
Also it wasn't Shueisha was said that, it was Iyoku.
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>>537518326
>You're nasty for knowing how to press a button on a phone to call my shitskin samefagging out
Cope
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>>537518326
>You're nasty for knowing how to press a button on a phone to call my shitskin samefagging out
Cope
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RE TO THE MINDER
The same guy saying daima won and obviously samefagging is the same guy who was involved in this thread where they argued for 7 hours about Cynthia vs red. In that "debate" he proved without a doubt he has several devices. https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/thread/523998925/#q524168106
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>>537518446
>>537518448
Man, this website is broken as fuck.
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>>537518547
>obviously samefagging
Which would be you? But you're against Daima?
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>>537518547
>they argued for 7 hours about Cynthia vs red.
That's dumb, Red obviously wins.
>he proved without a doubt he has several devices
Seems to me like you were just retarded and got jumped like you did here.
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>>537518326
I legit have no idea how to inspect on phone. At best I can Photoshop but I have never had to resort to that.
>>537518651
>Projection
>Doesn't even try to refute
See? I tell you this, I haven't replied to myself even once in this entire thread.
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>>537518547
>RE TO THE MINDER
You keep trying to make your boogeyman a thing and it keep failing, give up.
>he has several devices
Multiple devices don't do shit, 4chan uses IP for the post cooldowns and stuff.
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>>537518748
>I have never had to resort to that.
You literally just got caught blatantly in front of everyone.
>No u, you have to believe my obvious lie
Lol, no. Samefag.
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>>537518547
Oh, you're the anon the pokemon general refused to take back. That explains a lot.
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>>537518748
>See?
We see you're a samefag, don't worry.
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>>537516969
>>537517541
You know, that would be more credible if you weren't the only phoneposter and you didn't consistently get caught like that every time a retard has a meltdown here. 3 times is a coincidence, 5 times is you being up to some bullshit.
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>>537519259
You're replying to two different people. I'm a PC poster.
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>>537519345
That make no sense with how this discussion went. That would mean you pretended to be the phoneposter to reply to stuff addressed to the phoneposter and then the phoneposter replied as you to replies to your reply.
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>>537519578
Japanese shitposts are just better
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>>537519578
Looks like a /dbs/ bughan shit post. Peak meme.
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>>537519771
The only good /dbs/ meme is I Kneel.
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>>537519578
e hee hee hee hee hee
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New thread?
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>>537519671
>>537519771
I love BUGhan so fucking much in part to him being an unhinged niche western counterpart to the insane Broly MAD Paragus edits.
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>>537513293
personally, i think they should buff arm crash
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>>537523089
Gohan and his step-mom.
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>>537523089
Gohan and his sister-in-law.
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>>537492223
maybe it's something they turn on and off depending on the situation.
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>>537523089
Mickey and Minnie in their newly possessed bodies
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>>537507023
Toriyama was a freeaboo. DBZ is filled with references to American pop culture.
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>>537525654
and Chinese too, he liked doing whatever.
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UP
>>537526092
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>>537038131
Goku x Pan? Best ship.



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