It's Sadakover edition. >What is Dead By Daylight?Dead By Daylight is an asymmetrical multiplayer (1v4) horror game where one player takes on the role of the Killer and four players take on the role of Survivors. The Survivors' objective is to repair generators in order to power and open exit gates to escape. The Killer's objective is to hunt down and kill the Survivors.▶ NEWS>9.1.3 | Bugfix Patchhttps://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/kb/articles/520-9-1-3-bugfix-patch>Official Stat Tracker Websitehttps://stats.deadbydaylight.com/▶ RESOURCES & INFORMATION>Official website:https://www.deadbydaylight.com>Patch Notes:https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/kb/patchnotes>Wiki:https://deadbydaylight.wiki.gg/>DBD Icon Collabs 2019-2022 Downloadhttps://mega.nz/folder/fVsimD5Q#pJFswH6vEfPOI-4VO32Scw>>536914128
>it's another episode of bhvr nerfs the bottom line and leaves the top mostly untouched>it's a rerun
SURVIVORS RUN THIS SHIT NOWWHOOP WHOOP
reminder to use all of your tombstones
So what happens if I queue into a 4man SWF using the same skin? Fuck me? Also, we're one step closer to BHVRs ultimate goal of killerless games. Survivors spawn in, repair 5 gens with no opposition, receive 50 billion bloodpoints then leave.
https://x.com/DeadbyDaylight/status/1961465649789636833community skin vote, all the choices kinda suck this year, they only picked skins that are similar to themes they make anyway.
It's so over killerbros
>>537158079>what about this made up scenario in my head?Reminder killers claimed that Head On would make hooking in the basement IMPOSSIBLE
>Anti slugging and anti tunnel changes will not be enabled in games with Blight, Nurse, GhoulAm I reading this right? Surely not. Was too late in the old thread with this
>>537158271I really liked the nurse one
>>537158271artist mouth is gonna win isnt it
why don't they just address the whole solo vs SWF dilemma? solo survivor is too weak while SWF is way too strong
>>537158303Can you please post with an ID so I can filter you? You shitted up the old thread with this awful bait. Just go away
>>537158271I like the Unknown banner and the toy story Billy and that's about it
L M A O
>>537157768Sadako is cute
the killer gets buffed for fresh hooks and the numbers arent even knownyou get bbq, pop, and haste if these values are good then the update could be great
Oh wow, they're reworking Myers in time for Halloween, I wonder what ideas they have!>BHVR gives him the ability to Wesk at peopleWhat the fuck?
>>537159097>if these values are good you'll get 1 second of aura a 3% pop and 5% haste for 10 seconds if you're lucky
>>537158271i hope that trickster skin wins, it actually makes him look somewhat appealing and baseball is sweet.
>>537159357He's Pig now
Reminder that DBD used to have>BNP instantly finishing a gen and was a rare item, not legendary>instant vacuum fast vaults from any angle>3 seconds self-care>flashlight saves on hooking animation>no entity blocker>actual infinites>sluggish killer vaulting>double pallet tiles>perma-sabo hooks>perma-sabo traps>syringe healed two health states>faster gens>maps were bigger>1 door 2 windows shack>vacuum pallets>BT applied to both survivors>instablinds>hag traps took 5 seconds to apply>extremely slow stun timesAnd killeroids still stuck with it for some reason.No wonder BHVR treats killer mains like dogs.
I don't know if the Myers changes will make him better mechanically but the loss of flavor kinda sucks. Also how the fuck is a killer like Deathslinger or Trapper going to even remotely benefit from the proposed tunnel changes? Seems like it'll just improve the usual suspects and that's fucking it
>>537159719>Also how the fuck is a killer like Deathslinger or Trapper going to even remotely benefit from the proposed tunnel changes?it won't lol, see >>537157917
>>537159357They just made him into fucking diet chucky lmao
next up: you're not allowed to play the same killer for 2 games in a row because survivors are just sick of facing the few playable killers that aren't bullyable every match
dbd players are cattlethere's no other explanation for how badly bhvr bungled the most requested killer in history in springtrap and it's still the most played killer in the game
>survivor's crutches are disabled when all gens are finished yeah that makes sense they've won at this point >the killer bonuses are disabled when all gens are finished >this role is losing so it must be harder for them now
>Play Sadako>Full condemn survivor and kill them>You didnt 6 hook now you can defend gens anymoreMasterful game design from the Canucks over at Behaviour.
>>537159357What you dont want another move forward and down/injure killer why not?
killer bros how do we come back from this?? survivor players are dancing on our graves right now
How long has the nurse blink bug been around for? The one where she rubberbands the blink
>>5371605374/5ths of the playerbase are retarded enough to fall for videos like "I played 5 hours in wood league as this killer to prove how EASY it is!"
>>537158006He just made a video decrying what happened with the twd. Can't wait to see his reaction to this.
>>537159752this is literally just chucky but in first person
>>537161047just play survivor, its easy mode and only going to get easier and every killer not queueing drives the queue times up
>>537161047I dunno, I play Blight and Nurse I'll probably still win most of my games. I only have 150hr with nurse too according to the website, so I can still get a lot better meaning even the rare games I lose will eventually be wins.The vast majority of the survivor escapes (not counting hatch) are because I let it happen.
>>537159752For a split second I thought this icon was ANOTHER axe and I was about to laugh.
>>537159752?!?!?!The fuck is this? I swear there is already a killer with this power, no?
>>537161491chucky, pig, dracula wolf form pounce, hillbilly except the knife is a chainsaw take your pick
>>537159752I will only accept this if Coup doubles that length too for maximum silly
>>537161598Demoknight
>>537158271bunch of dogshit this year
>survivor doesnt take off RBT>everyone gets a burst of repair speed because you tunneledthese devs are seriously on drugs
God, survivors are so fucking annoying. They ruin the fun for killers. The Myers rework sucks ass, everything sucks ass in this update. I hope this company dies
killerbros, team huddle. it's time to plan our strategy going into this dark era of the game's historyif gen perks get disabled when we tunnel, does that mean we should run 4 aura perks? or 1 gen 3 aura?
Twins players in literal shambles
>>537162567all three of them
>>537162616I feel bad for em they constantly lose non stop I cant think of a killer fanbase that loses more than them maybe SM mains but I have yet to meet an actual SM main that doesnt just call themselves a SM main to get attention or feel special or something
>>537161672I don't think it's a normal lunge so probably won't count
>>537159752I cannot wait to see how fucking stupid this looks from survivor's perspective.
>>537161598>dracula wolf form pounceOkay you're forcing it
>>537162806These devs can't do fucking anything right
i only play as bligger so i will be unaffected by the changes
>>537162758Don't the twins have a pretty high killrate?
>go back to DBD after a major hiatus>killer is suffering because I lost the skill>survivor is easy because it is braindead even though I don't know most of the map layouts anymore
>>537163163The only ones who play them are 9k twins mains that can put up with how shit they are they're quite good actually...when they arent buggy which is never
>>537163327i have like 92% killrate on twins
>>5371624744 end game perks, tunnel and play for the endgame snowball
Y'all cry too much, this patch is great and if you're complaing about it maybe its time to start playing fair as killer?
>>537163627Lol Kill yourself
>>537163480is it time to bring out that endgame singularity build with remember me + haywire for 50 second door opening speeds that regresshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=giOObBtU5xg
>>537161386I thought it was the chainsaw icon desu.
hens is crying
>>537162341>The Myers rework sucks assSurreal they gave him a charge attack, all these devs can do now is make dash powers or killer no one plays.>I hope this company diesThey will just leech off the canadian tax system again in the unlikely scenario they go bankrupt.
former dev almo gives his opinionhttps://www.reddit.com/r/deadbydaylight/comments/1n39h2l/920_update_and_the_antitunneling_changes/
dbd the type of game where you get punished for killing an opponent
>>537164674Hey I read that here
now hear me out>nurse>insidious, noed, blood warden, agitation>blink into gate, stay there until survoids come>down, hook, repeat until all hooked, since their new toys are disabled during EGC>profit
>>537159752>God of War combat in first person
>>537164913sadly nurse can't oneshot people with noed during a blink
>>537164674I thought I was the only one who clocked this being on certain killers. DBD is spaghetti code at the best of times, having this apply to half, or two thirds of killers makes balancing to much harder, if this goes live like this it'll be the beginning of the end. From a player and technical standpoint. They can barely code 2v8 with the same bugs returning every single time.
>>537164674>Former dbd dev>5 upvotes and 52 commentsI already know that thread is filled with reddit armchair generals explaining how he's wrong, toxic, a killer main, a white man etc.
>>537165353Almo isnt popular cause of some dumb shit he said so the community doesnt like him
>>537165353>mom spaghetti code spaghetti code i learned a new wordie spaghetti code haha!>WHAAT? you are an ACTUAL developer? lie! i am active in 48 different gaming subreddits, even though i havent written a single line of code in my life and never will, resorting to memes as if im "in club", i know how to handle things better than you! DOWNVOTED TO OBLIVIOOOON MUWHAHHHAH!!!
>>537165353i mean almo is kind of a retardhence the former part
>>537165353Almo is the guy who got huntress gutted because he got owned one time on stream.
>>537165471>>537166054>>537166353I have no reference for any BHVR employees, link to stream? The only thing I know is Flashlights were nerfed after a dev was completely obliterated by bug people whilst playing Hag.
>>537166510https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g28KozjF0AI
>>537166510Just search him up on YouTube.
>>537166510It was like a while ago I distinctly remember him saying he said a lot of dumb shit but the one I remember the most was him saying Pig is one of the best killers in the game cause survivors hear lol beeping RBT and dont take it off causing them to inflate her kill rate
If you have a bad teammate, it is 100% the correct option to just let them die on hook and get the gen bonus right? Some of my teammates do nothing and last 3 seconds in chase, i would rather have the bonus.
>2028>Boot Dead by Daylight as Killer>Load into the new Resident Evil chapter map which is just all hallways with 3 pallets in them>"WARNING! BHVR anti-grief has detected you are using a problematic perk unavailable for use with this map!">My Fire Up gets deactivated for the rest of the trial>I hear a missed skillcheck through the wall, gotta pay attention now they removed loud noise notifications>Fable, the new goth e-girl survivor completes her Invocation: Party Time>RGB LEDS begin strobing on my screen, the volumetric filtering burns my retinas>"WARNING! BHVR anti-grief detects you are not dancing!">Moonwalk a little to dodge the anti-grief killer cage penalty>Fable comes and teabag dances with me while I'm animation locked>M1 her, hoping to get my first hook so I can proc Pain Res 3% regression>"WARNING! BHVR anti-grief has detected unsportsmanlike conduct!>Exit gates open immediately and I get banned for 1 week
>>537166824Nah, sandbag them after every rescue until the killer is forced to tunnel them out and it causes all the gens to be impossible to regress
Okay holy fuck. I'm not doing bad with Nurse, but what the FUCK is this blink bug where it keeps sort of stuttering my blink. It's so fucking annoying.I think I'll just play blight for now.
>>537167072>killeroids when you take away one crutch
Now that killers are dead, no pun intended. What games are anons moving to? I might resub to retail WoW, hope the PvP is decent.
>>537167219i think this shit started happening when they moved to dedi servers, so it's been around for a long whileyour blinks should still work correctly it's just annoying as fuck. assuming you're talking about the one where you go to charge it a little too 'soon' and she starts huhuhhuhuuhuhhuhuhuuhhuhing, that is
>new taurie cosmeticsyes please
>>537169941This but only as long as they cover his face or give her long hair instead of her Eminem cut>>537166054Almo was based for triggering xitter and Reddit at least. I’m wholesale convinced they hired the guy because he kind of looks like Einstein and thus people would think he’s smart.
>>537170340? She has a nice face.
>>537170340https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QoOebHa74Yk
Killer mains are finally getting their reckoning for 6.1.0 overbidding them.I feel… happy. Like I can finally enjoy survivor again.
>>537159697We need to bring ALL of those back. At the same time. Now.
>>537158280i have no idea what this schizophrenic image is trying to say
>>537159697Killers honestly have had it way too good for a while now. They needed to be put back in their place.
I dont know if this is just ESL on Behaviors side but what the fuck is the last segment here. Will killers have regression blocked permanently on one kill? Will this apply to death in 6 hooks? What the fuck are you saying?
>>537171513I think it's just if you tunnel someone, if you hook other people and they die, you still keep ur perks
>>537161927>making up 1/1000 scenarios to get mad aboutDo killers really?
Blight is really annoying to use on doctor's map. Forgot what it's called. So much garbage in the way, tiny door frames, windows everywhere
Killers back in MY day had to deal with so much worse and were still fine. We still queued up for games.Killers were never meant to be as strong as they are now and I’m glad this patch is fixing that. The game will be more fun for everyone now.
>>537171513If you hook someone back to back for their 2nd and 3rd time you lose regressionSo after their 2nd hook you need to hook anyone else inbetween before you can hook and kill them
>>537171513>kill any survivor too fast and get a penalty>kill the same guy too fast after an unhook and be crippledI genuinely do not want to see what nightmare suicide builds swf's come up with with the idea in mind to have one guy get tunneled out immediately just to enter maximum overdrive with the killer physically unable to stop genrushing.
How do you communicate all this shit to a new player? How is our friendly newfag Trapper supposed to know NOT to go after the Meg that keeps showing up in front of him when she's the only one intentionally making herself visible?
>>537171513It's very strangely worded but I think it can be interpreted as "This is the secondary anti tunnel condition separate from the 6 hook state condition that if you hook or kill someone that was just unhooked rather than going for someone else you are now unable to regress gens etc"Which if that' the case, how does this interact with someone being left on hook?
I picked up the game last week, are you just supposed to purposefully not kill a dude now even if you can???
>>537159525Sex with woomies.>>537167072God I need sex with Beccy so bad.
>>537159752>Myers reworked into yet another Dashkiller that is just worse ChuckyDaring today arent we?
>>537172931Trial by fire. He’ll learn as he keeps getting teabagged at the exit gate.Perhaps he’ll know to stick to survivor.
>>537171513Typical bhvr wording. Fucking atrocious It could mean:>If someone is tunneled out, per the 6 hook condition explained above Or >If you proc the endurance and down and unhooked survivor and hook kill/ Mori them-- no more gen regression regardless of when in the match it is Or >After two hooking anyone, you cant use gen regression for a ???time limit??? Or several other interpretations. We don't know because bhvr doesn't know. It's complete nonsense bullshit
>>537172931I'm positive they've already accepting onboarding is a fucking nightmare and the only new players they get are people that come in with a big IP chapter and bounce like a week later, and its not getting better so they're just trying to milk the existing survivor whales.
>>537172931Impossible. Bhvr lost the plot completely, they don't know what they are doing and this has become increasingly evident.It was always true, but they lucked out for a few years. Now it's all cracking.
>>537172854Object of Obsession, OTR, Unbreakable, Shoulder the Burden would be my guess. Be an annoying shit on coms until first down, then use shoulder and get yourself hooked and kill yourself ASAP. Unbreakable is there in case he tries to keep you out of the game for 90 seconds. Dunno about the 4th perk, maybe a meme like No Mither or something, I dunno
>>537173567take that fucking taurie perk that lets you steal hook states so the killer has an even harder time tracking whose on what hook
>>537174091*would be ultimate dickbaggeryfucking a hundred perks in this game and a dozen killers, they can't have considered every possible angle to this.
>>537166353The fuck? This never happened. He did however get doctor's skill checks nerfed cause he was too shit to hit them
unknowns buffs are really funny because they know playing him is like dragging your nuts through glass unless you're willing to dedicate 5000 hours into him exclusively
>>537173478>I can’t tunnel anymore for free wins, so BHVR is now bad and has no idea what they’re doingAwwww boo hoo, poor wittle killer main:(
>>537174091>>537174291I plan on playing using shoulder the burden and hiding/using a invocation in the basement until I can run in and and take a hook stage from someone. I will then follow the killer around until I die, which will waste their time and then give my team all the gen help they could ever need.
>he's still here baitingThat's kinda sad
>>537174091Yeah, No Mither Shoulder the Burden would let you speedrun your death to an almost unfathomable degree, if the generator repair buff is strong enough to make it worth dying really early. If the numbers are slightly off on making an instant death viable I think you replace no mither with Innovation Weaving Spiders, complete the invocation and then kill yourself. Either way this shit is going to be exploited hard by SWFs
>>537170519>survivoids when they've given their 10th basekit crutch perk
why does this general love replying to bait and posts made in bad faith?
the numbers would have to be batshit insane for an instant death 3v1 meta to ever make any senseeven with no regression that is still a total cakewalk. it's why tunneling is so strong in the first place, the game is exponentially easier the fewer survivors there are
>>537173075Correct. If the survivor runs at you and tries to body block you from moving or hitting other players you have to just let them or else you're being toxic and you won't be able to play your objective for the rest of the match
give me your endgame builds to cope with how fast gens will be
nobody is seriously thinking a 3v1 would be easier than a 4v1it's just shitposters who know damn well that the generator repair speed bonus is gonna be something like 5% or something equally worthless
All survivors are cringe and shit except for me tbqh I'm the best
>>537175919>trusting BHVR with anything Thats your first mistake
Reminder.
>>537175427Maybe if killers weren’t playing like such scumbags, this wouldn’t have been necessary. Nevertheless, here we are.
>>537176062Here you are trusting them to, for once, give a huge boost, when they always do tiny shitty worthless ones
>>537175919and you know damn well theres a 70% chance this comes out with some fatal bug that makes gen prog 100% faster or triggers the lockout before anyone dies because this game is a fossilized plate of spaghetti. the implementation of this system at all just adds more shit for the already vastly overworked engine to handle and its gonna be a good year before they actually fix even a quarter of the problems that it'll have day 1. or rather day -1 considering the problems will be blatant in the PTB and they won't bother fixing any of it before it goes live like they always have
>>537176063I miss these days. Survivor felt so good then. Killers clearly didn’t care too much since they still queued up.
>>537172629trvkeback in 2016-17 people disrespected killer so much they continued to do gens after they were done (back then remaining 2 gens were not automatically finished/blocked)
>>537171513It works like this: Hook1 on Survivor1Hook2 on Survivor3Hook3 on Survivor1Hook4 on Survivor1If the above happens, the survivors get BOTH the repair speed AND no more regression or blockingIf the hooks go like this:Hook1 on Survivor1Hook2 on Survivor3Hook3 on Survivor1Hook4 on Survivor2Hook5 on Survivor4Hook6 on Survivor2Hook7 on Survivor2The repair speed buff is dodged, but the other part with no regression and blocked gens kicks in.So, if at any point, you double hook a survivor and they die, you get that second effect, even if you 2 hooked the whole lobby beforehand. And if you double hook and kill someone before 6 hooks, both effects are turned on.
You’re literally playing the villain. You aren’t supposed to win all the time. The plot demands you lose sometimes.
>>537176527That's because gens were getting done that fast back then.
Killers did this to themselvesIf you play killer and are all upset and angry at this update, just remember you can always pick your slug up and not tunnel people out! Back when they changed map offerings and got rid of “go next” on hook, people warned survivors that they would put things in place to avoid going next if they abused it. Survivors abused going next on hook so they changed it. Killers on multiple platforms like here would gloat, brag, and taunt about how they hard tunnel and slug all the time and I could see from a mile away that the same thing would happen. Yall abused tunneling and slugging so much they changed it just like how they got rid of go next. Blame yourselves!! This is a good change because it will incentivize killers to learn how to get better in chase and not always go target 1 person being toxic and get rewarded for it or denying people to play the match by slugging. The map offering update made survivors and killers to not depend on their favorite surv or killer sided maps to win. So killers, no more hard tunneling and slugging to win! Have a good day!
>>537177460Not readin all that
i have a brilliant fucking idea:all survivors have 8 shared hook stagesafter they're wasted next hook for anyone is deaththat's it i solved tunneling and you can also stop caring whether feng you last downed had white or pink-ish shirtaren't i a fucking genius innit?
>>537177060so you'd be fine with only one survivor being able to escape per trial to keep the slasher movie tropes?
>>537177885That's ideal
>>537177548Survoids think anyone gives a shit about their 1/4th of an opinion lmao
>>537174424It was a perk belonging to her. So it still counts.
>>537171382Yes but he’s better than just about every other version of him outside of like the Hellsing one that barely got a chance to shine. At least that I can remember.
>>537177995I actually think it would be way funner if the game was about hobbling together to just get one person out of the trial alive. like people making literal dives in-front of knives to protect the VIP survivor. fuck it make the obsession a constant single survivor and every other surv gets infinite lives, they just need to keep the obsession alive long enough to escape.
>>537177885That’s also bad. The slasher should lose AND the main cast should all survive like in The Blackening.
>BHVR makes the survivor rulebook part of the gameHoly kino. They even included the “you cannot hook the same player twice in a row” rule.
Why do we let the whinging of less than 20% of the community outweigh everything?Whenever a single good change is implemented for survivors, killer mains whine their asses off and get the changes reverted. See fog vials, nerfed into the ground. Whereas a problematic killer like Ghoul can stay in the game for months without any reasonable changes and survivors just live with it. The difference in treatment is just astounding. Now the same thing is happening with these anti-slugging and anti-tunneling changes and the PTB hasn't even been released yet. There's a reason why killer queues are so much longer than survivor queues and these changes are trying to balance that.
Holy fuck this general is just 99% baits today>today
>>537158868Made for gagging on Wesker’s member What a hottie
>>537176573Lmao. Now I wish that was still a thing.
>>537179386>people happy that killer as a role is finally getting well deserved nerfs>bait
So if I'm checking a gen and I find a survivor who was hooked last right on the gen I checked, am I supposed to just let him do the gen?
>>537179994Well actually I guess I can slug him and let him get up on his own that's probably better than letting him do the gen.Still kinda shitty. Feels like I can't do my objective. I get the change is supposed to target people who are intentionally tunnelling but in regular gameplay shit happens, sometimes you find someone you weren't looking for.
I tire of this, I am going to run dh ds otr ub I guess.
Sex with men
>>537180484>areBased
>>537179994>>537180234this shit feels like its just going to replace tunneling with a more obnoxious camping where the killer just stands over the downed survivor, waiting for them to pick themselves up before knocking them down again to bleed out. the kind of people that tunnel and camp to be assholes are just going to keep doing it, and the killers that needed to do it either situationally or because the killer's kit has nothing else going for it just get fucked even harder
>>537180624Also as I typed that I was wondering, what if the entire survivor team is using the same character and cosmetic? Fuck am I supposed to do then?
>>537179304>Whereas a problematic killer like Ghoul can stayGhoul players are not killer players They are subhuman and separate and (You) know this
>>537180974I guess if you really wanted to avoid it you could take that obsession perk that passes it to whoever unhooks the obsession. still having to gear your entire playstyle around trying to avoid a 'fair play' system you can trigger accidentally is fucking retarded
>>537180974>Fuck am I supposed to do then?You have to check the HUD for the chase status and keep track manually of each survivor and which one you hooked last and how much hook state each one has.
>>537181359Bro...
>>537179304Ghoul is anime and enjoys anime protections.
>>537179304broken killers like ghoul are just like a scapegoat they leave up to make it look like the game doesn't have a garish killer bias. like even most broken killers barely peak a 60% kill rate yet people act like Kaneki spawns in and all 4 survivors are insta sacrificed. he sucks ass but he's effectively controlled opposition
I'm ready to install my bnp/do my invocation and then die for my team
>Killers tunnel out new players during the FNAF chapter>shocked when it gets changed Lmao
>>537181359>have to engage in a chase to figure out if you should be going after that particular survivor or get punishedWow riveting gameplay
I don't think I've ever lost a game where survivors didn't teabag on their way out. If I lose, it's 100% going to happen.Meanwhile if I lose as survivor there isn't anything that stands out as 100% that they'll do.Really feels like one side behaves worse than the other here.
>>537182994You basically had to do that already, the punishment for chasing the wrong one is just Much much worse now
Honestly the community killer/survivor designs finalists kinda suck this year, and their was some real good concept arts submitted.
>>537183467I haven't watched a teabagging survivor in a while. I would rather walk back into the map and look for breakable walls and pallets while they sit there and suck each other off by the gate.
>game begins >find meg, hook meg>get my baseline bbq on everyone else>they know with 100% precision when I know where they are after a hook so they've all hidden and are urban evasioning (new meta perk) out of my sight as I check the area>can't find them>nothing else to do, go back to the hook as I remembered where it was even though you can't see hooked auras anymore>meg isn't on it, I don't get notified when she's unhooked anymore>she and her rescuer are nowhere to be found >go back to check the gens I remember finding auras on again>a gen is nearly done>it's just meg repairing it>down her but can't hook her or I get a massive penalty >she knows this and is smugly recovering in front of the genwhat is the play?
>>537183492Thats what im sayin. It at least wasent that bad a issue before but the fact its requiring you to facecheck every surv to not gimp yourself that is horrid
>>537183745I don't mind so I don't go out of my way to run from it. So I see it's pretty much 100% when I lose.
>>537183905rope
>>537184118Well that's a scenario where you're against a swf running a clone squad. Which if it happens with the changes going live the way they are, you're kinda fucked. The real issue imo is that you don't need that specific situation for these changes to just really gimp people who are playing normally. Like I said, sometimes you find people you weren't looking for, or the survivor who was just hooked goes do a gen and such which obviously you're not supposed to let happen.
>>537183905Unironically? >>537184884
>>537185143I play survivor solo q and it's kinda astounding how often someone loads into the party and copies my outfit on purpose. Very rare for a full team to clone, but not rare for at least two identicals.
>2v8 team-mate was so bad at the game that some of the survivors thought they went AFK
>>537185472>2v8It's all trash anyway
what killer perks do i take now that gen perks are getting raped to death?
>>537185934Sprint BurstAdrenalineLast StandFinesse
>>537185934Lethal Pursuer, BBQ, I'm All Ears and a fun pet fourth perk of your choice
So sadako is worthless now? She cant use her mori or it will give buffs to others?
>>537186685Just don't mori the last person you hooked?
Unironically, this is a huge boost for my late night survivor games. I can turn my music up or just watch my shows on second monitor and worst case scenario I get caught a few times and my team still benefits. Playing killer will suck, but whatever. It's sucked for a while. Idk why they balance around the high tiers, without buffing the low tiers.
I'm just not going to tunnel/camp and continue to 4man as Trickster (like I already do). It's going to be even easier with haste and aura "good boy" rewards. Sorry.
>>537186815>Hooking survivors makes their condemn stacks permanent>Which makes them the most likely to reach max stacks Not that survivors with a brain were reaching Max stacks anyway, but if that's your play style then yeah she is toast
>every single michael game today has been tombstoneYeah cant wait for this shit to get removed
>>537187082Get them tiger
>>537187154You have to use it or lose it, You're the piece of shit for complaining about it Rn
>killers so incapable of finding people that their only choice is to return to hook and tunnelYeah sorry have you considered getting better at the game?Maybe instead of four slowdowns you bring one single information perk? Heck, you're getting free BBQ so maybe you won't even need to do that!Worst case scenario just slug the guy. Its free pressure OR they have to wait 90 seconds which should be plenty of time to down somebody else?
>>537187154Play 2v8
>>537187154>piss and cry about tombstone showing up once ever 10 myers games >devs cater and are gutting the character to make it another blight dash killer copy paste >shit yourself seething that everyone is using their add-ons before they're changed to something worthless like "+2% pick up speed when you've downed 3 survivors in a single sickdark dash"
>>537187748if you dont want to get tunneled maybe get good at chase? or bring one of the dozen anti-tunnel perks
>have a massive issue with survivorfags DCing or killing themselves on first hook because their egos are so fragile they can't handle getting downed once >give massive buffs to survivors and gimp the killer any time this happens Just think, there are some people who are so retarded they believe the devs have even booted up the game they make.
>>537185325Its just enough to be a problem
>>537188287what's that perk composition?
>>537188582I get so much value from survivor's Dc'ing when I slug them all and then there's this one guy who had decisive that could have turned the game around but it's for nothing because everyone else left already.>>537188679exultationchampion of lightsprint burstfixated
>>537188085You misread my post, I'm not complaining about being tunneled, but I can understand how it could come across that way.
dash slop
>>537188582I just hope those buffs are small enough to still be managable but i really dont like where this is going
>>537189073It makes the game worse for everyone except the top tier killers where it's actually a buff.
>>537186414what about corrupt intervention in 4th because it's a slowdown that isn't being nerfed (yet)
>>537188287I guess this is the nature of any competitive game, but there's something about dbd where doing something right always looks like it's turbo cancer for the other side.It's like who can be the most cancer competition
Did they change something to make nurse blinks faster? It feels like I'm arriving at my destination way too fast sometimes. Almost like an actual legit teleport (which it never was before)
Maybe I'll just start cheating, this game is fucked anyway
>>537189768Side objective is whoever can make the other side give up the quickest. I've had a lot of shitty games where I felt like giving up but when I didn't the game always turned around to my favor.Today team played so well on soloq that killer dc'd and accused me of being in a swf.
>>537189972Congrats you were more cancer than they were.
>>537189183I feel like its gonna be worse for all killers. >SWF with Clone skins>punished for weeding out the weakest links>punished for trying to engage in a chase then realizing they are on death hook so you waste more time>have to waste even more time as a result to "find the right players">if you say fuck it and hook anyways you get punished because someone was too aggressive and tried to get involved in every pick up/chase/etc>oops hope that the gens arent all far along after you wasted time, tee hee !cause now you cant gen regress>oops hope the surv didnt DC or suicide on hook or get left behind cause you are now punished for it, tee hee!While it may be an annoyance to high tier players, its really gonna suck for mid tier or new players trying to wrap their head around needing to juggle YET MORE SHIT and possibilities in a game with 100s of perks and addons YIPPEEEEEE.
>>537190158And it's my problem that they had a bad mental because?
>>537190213Oh minor greentext mistake tough luck me i guess
>>537190213Why can't killers read? It shows who the last hooked was. Maybe try working on your reading comprehension instead of making up stories in your head.
>>537190406Its not the last hooked retard-kun, it's trying to juggle more information. Needing to start a chase against clones to see who you need to go after isnt intuitive.
>>537190406Don't let reality get in the way of their eternal persecution complex and imagined scenarios.
>>537190741Is object permanence that difficult for you? Maybe it was a mistake making killer easier and easier and easier and easier over the years. Now the average killer player is like an ipad kid who uses chatgpt to do his homework.
>>537158271>Houndmaster finally with a pirate skin>nobody will vote it because it's fucking HoundmasterDamn shame.
>reading the unbreakable basekit buff>Actually BETTER than unbreakable >After a total of 90 seconds, survivors can now pick themselves up>Just need to fill up the recovery bar>Infinite unbreakable Even the perk only allowed it once per trial. Here survivors just need to wait out the timer once then they can spam it forever.
>survivors all dressed the same>lobby dodge>survivors switch last second>hard tunnel because it pisses off SWF worse case its a quick match and they teabag you best case you use their altruism to secure a win
She looks like groom'ed' her own mother, made her as own sex slave, and enjoyed it
>>537190987Lol>>537178109
>>53719122890 seconds is a really long time in game and the self pick up bar seems separate from the recovery bar so you can't speed it up.
>>537190987Its unnecessary. Why in the fuck as a horror killer do i gotta tally every nipple hair that i graze on Feng Ming TIKTOK when her 3 other slant eyed friends spin around and has to make me do a chase to figure out who I need to go after next? This shits gonna be awful against clones even with only 2 players being clones cause having to account for that possibility is gay and retarded
>I shouldn't have to think I should just load up and be handed a 4k
>>537191228It's even better when you factor in the basekit tenacity as well. If they slug without aura on you, you can crawl and recover at the same time and if they spend, let's say, 12-15 seconds chasing a flashlighter or pallet dropper away so they can pick up-- you will have made some good distance and recovery. This puts you in position for >Pickup by another teammate easily >Hiding to wait the basekit unbreakable timer >More crawling to an even safer point for a save The potential is wide
>>537191941Who are you quoting lol
>>537191559it really isn't that long and its total for the entire match
>>537191748Okay since you're a "horror killer" you should be forced to let at least 1 survivor leave while you stand there watching them as is tradition in the genre.
>>537191559It's the same speed as unbreakable. The only issue is getting the 90 seconds. It's easily doable if you have someone with a flashlight come in and fuck with the killer.
>I shouldn't have to think I should load up and handed a 4 escape
>>537157768those anti slug and anti killer new features are complete dogshit
If you're leaving a survivor on the ground for a total of 90 seconds you're doing it intentionally and also bad at chases.
>>537192194I mean isnt that what the hatch is for? Its already built in you just gotta find it
How do people keep falling for these baits
>>537192194If the fourth survoid instantly got hatch every time I successfully got my third kill I would be totally fine with that >>537191941You niggers think people want consistent 4ks but I just want the game to be balanced around killer having the power. You know, since they are the power role, a single person against a Team of cooperating people.
>>537192362>will do nothing to stop people who want to tunnel someone out to punish them >will fuck over everyone playing normally
>>537192464>I mean isnt that what the hatch is for?It was in the old days before they made it so you need to wait like 15 seconds after the second to last survivor dies for it to even open. Right now killeroids will slug someone for 4 minutes just to prevent it from even possibly opening because they start writing their manifesto if a survivor gets a consolation prize.
>killertrannys got what they deservewholesomeandchungus
>>537192362>ok we are forcing people to not slug>by giving survivors all the anti slug perks in the game>ok we are forcing people to not tunnel>by forcing killers to 8hook every game or survivors get every gen rushing perk in the game
>>537192298>spending 90 seconds fucking around with a flashlightoid without progressing your objectiveYou were going to lose anyway.
>>537188582>me getting left on 2nd hook to die after the 3 man swf face unhooked me and sandbagged me just to turn off gen regression the rest of the match
>>537192352Hey look it's the esl killer sissy who can't articulate his own sentences so he needs to try and copy paste what other people say that hurts his feelings. It's also very funny you're so stupid you don't realize you're just saying you think the person you're replying to made a very good point and you have 0 argument. So sad and embarrassing for you </3
>>537192693You get what you fucking deserve.Should have gone easier on the FNAF kids, hope it was worth it you cunt.
>>537192693you WILL play against anon Ada comp squads with the exact same outfitand you WILL 8 hook everyone without fucking up even once
Reminder that slugging and tunneling only happen in response to survivoids asking for it.If you don't want to get slugged don't run with a sabo squad and don't have your retarded teammates hover around the killer trying to fish for tiktok clips. If you don't want to get tunneled don't heal under hook or run in front of the killer mid swing.
>>537192990nigger retard
>>537192865Nta obviously, since I speak English, but may I offer a counterargument? >>537178109
>>537192684/thread
>>537192865>mindbroken ESL survivoid seething
>>537192895you're a child and you have less than 500 hours in the game lmaoblight and nurse mains will still hard tunnel everyone they wantyou're gonna see more of them, because those "anti tunnel and slug features" will only fuck Z tier killers like wraith, trapper and all the other non-comp killersit's so funny thinking you scored a big win, behaviour just radicalized even more killer mains into playing S tier killers and you're laughing
>>537193076if you didn't care you wouldn't make an "argument" which that isn't actually anyway
>>537193174Every single time killers get the slightest nerf they trot out the old chestnut of 'yeah well enjoy going up against blight and nurse!'EverySingleTime
>>537193050silence kuaroid
>>537192693You forgot the new status that gives you every immersive perk in the game.Literally never run anything, just get hooked first and you have a quarter of the perks in the game by basekit.
>>537192684this
I carry every 2v8 teammate
>>537193341well, yeah. you can't bitch about killer diversity being about three characters while at the same time praising gameplay changes that further fuck over lower tiers.
>>537193436
Killeroids imagining they're playing against swf death squads is the funniest shit ever. still waiting for the people making this claim to show their gameplay at best they'll show a scoreboard/salty endgame chat or a screenshot of them getting a mori once in their life. >>537193341That's extra funny because people think someone wouldn't possibly hate Blight less than whatever faggot character they're playing despite the fact that every community poll shows that people in fact would rather play against Blight than stealth or trap killers.
Anti slugging measure is a nothing burger because I can assure you a survivor spending 90 continuous seconds on the ground happens once every 1000 matches
>>537193341NTA but it's the truth, the blight population is on an all-time high, nurses are still gated behind 1000 hours of muscle memory.If you make the actual fun killers in the game, people will play whats not fun but effective.You're both entitled fucks, don't think any side is worse than the other.
They didn't make these choice in a vacuum. You KNOW that BHVR always takes nerfs/buffs too far, you KNOW they throw everything including the kitchen sink at a problem instead of attempting a well thought and nuanced change.Yet you kept tunneling, you kept slugging, harder and harder and harder.Even as disconnecting and going next became more frequent you made excuses and kept tunneling and slugging.Even as queue times exploded you made excuses and kept tunneling and slugging.Now you're forced to face reality and you can't slug and tunnel your way out of this update.
I LOVE BEING REWARDED WITH INGAME BUFFS BY MY OPPONENT PLAYING LIKE A SUBHUMAN NIGGERI LOOOOOOOOOOVE THIS GAME
>>537193601boy im glad that it'll stay something that never happens and doesn't get used in conjecture with perks and the also added anti-tunneling features to become ass cancer because as we all know the DBD playerbase never abuses anything ever
>>537191941I think you're being a disingenuous retarded survivor player only faggot on purpose
>current Myers power perfectly encapsulates how he is in the movies>Even the add ons make complete total sense>This must be changed
>>537193601It's a little more common than that but yes. Slugging for 30-40 seconds and slugging for 4k is the actual problem. A survivor being on the ground can't do anything. Anyone who doesn't play like an actual psychopath who just wants to ruin the game for other people isn't going to see people picking themselves up unless they do to themselves much like actual facecamping. >>537193660I'd much rather play against Blight or Nurse than p*g, wr*ith, kn*ght, cl*wn, pl*gue
>>537193869Not readin all that lil man
>everyone too busy arguing about the new features, the fact that myers got completely reworked and is going to be blight 2.0 is completely skimmed over
>>537194136Oh dont worry that makes me seethe hard." I cant believe its not Blight" because....because....BECAUSE PEOPLE HATE TOMBSTONE OKAY?
>survivoids when the changes drop and they're playing against nurse / kaneki / blight every game even in their dogshit mmr
>>537193937Please tell me what perks are making a survivor being on the ground for 90 seconds worth the time when they could've literally completed an entire generator on their own in that time
>>537194060God forbid we just get tweaked numbers for a character. Instead we NEED him to dash! I hate this shit so much
>>537193869and in the real world the devs are niggers who try to claim survivors exploiting bugs isn't a problem and won't be fixed until enough people call them out for their shit
>>537192719Well, considering the anti tunnel system, it might be better to chase them.
>>537194337getting squads that refuse to let you pick up or leave survivors on the ground happens constantly because a solid chunk of the playerbase, both sides mind you, exist to do nothing but be a complete societal drain and make playing this already mid game more agonizing than pulling teeth. do you play any of the game at all or are you a bhvr dev.
>>537194136Oh no i saw and I seethe. I get Myers isn't top tier but fuck me God overall kit for great emulating the first movie with him getting more and more dangerous and his evil within icon coming more and more out of the shadows to reflect that was aestheticas hell, changing that concept to a lunge and a stealth and chase stance alongside limiting stalk range really sucks some huge dick
>>537194301Ah I see the lack of reaction image represents survivors quitting in droves, very clever anon here have a (you)
The fuck is killerroids and survivoids god you genzniggers always pick weird term
Will this patch finally kill the game?
The worst case scenario is that they just roll back everything after the ptb and the necessary change of rewarding killer for spreading hooks will never be attempted again
>>537194819Are you a retarded nigger?
>>537194842no but it will kill low tier killers who can't 12hook
>>537194136b-b-b-but the dbd reddit says they love playing against dashslop!
>>537194819I prefer term survoids more, feels more like femoids
>>537194886They'll roll back just the things that benefit survivor and let killeroids have all the bonuses.
>>537194886I really wish they'd test out a few of these changes at a time and not "here's every idea we had all at once"
>>537194967>low tier killers get even worse and punished further*sad cenobite noises*
>>537194886worst part is I can se them doing this >"well everyone complained about the ptb so I guess no one wants killers to be incentivized to spread hooks. so we're going to cut that part and add all the nerfs anyway"
>we want the chucky audience>sir but they said blig->CHUCKY.
>>537195014No see what was actually said is the devs fucking suck at making everything else. Giving michael a 20 second coup de gras also isn't really a dash it's just braindead
I am calling to arrange euthanasia for every killerfag in this general
>>537194886I genuinely think it would be healthier for the game to actually encourage 'good' behavior, but doing it because you've effectively affixed a shock collar to the players and will zap them for being naughty regardless of context just isnt fucking it.f13 at least had the right idea where if you got the radio up and running that the first camper to die got to come back with a fucking shotgun.
>>537195262Dont give em ideas. Brought to you by the team that held off killswitching Streetwise for infinite toolbox because "erm sweaty its not that bad :)"
>>537195336imagine how stupid his animation is going to be during the dash
Myers new power should involve him stealing cars and driving them around the map.Because he does that.
>>537195576myers if he black
>>537195336I can hear the chucky dash scream in my head kek.
>>537195519
I voted Feng, Renato, Gabriel and Orela
>survivoids jumping and cheering they're getting more perks turned into basekit crutches and nerfs to 90% of the killer roster >also survivoids after facing their 14th ghoul of the day and 9th nurse of the evening
>>537195639No I recently watched H20, and Resurrection and that psycho fuck LOVES stealing cars.Also watched Curse of Michael Myers, I think he might just fucking teleport around in the movie straight up? Also all some of the worst horror movies I've ever seen.
>>537195336>obviously playing vs bots in an internal build>yet still censoring by blurring the names of the survivors>when they could've chosen streamer mode in the settings...Why are they like this.Why is BHVR like this.
>Game starts>2 No Mither>Disconnectle hillarious duo queue doin epic le funny twitch clips
>>537195576Myers should teleport around the map like Jason did in F13 game and come out of lockers silently to jumpscare people.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A1zMJaXUNSs
>instead of only facing Nurse Blight Ghoul you'll only face Nurse Blight GhoulWaow.
>>537195894He also loves mogging black people for some reason >Busta rhymes>Joe grizzly >That black guy in the comic
is kaneki still that strongi thought he was nerfed into oblivion
>>537196084And Tyra Banks
>>537195442The first game i ever played of that i didn't know that's what happened when you called for help so when i died and I returned to the game as Tommy fucking Jarvis and got to blast Jason with a shotgun while screaming "Come on, maggot head!" it was a pretty fucking hype moment for me. I miss that game sometimes, before it was riddled with hackers and super optimized
>>537195890I almost never have nurse or ghoul in my games and if I do I just dodge without any penalty because I don't usually quit on games.
>>537196196based ground level MMR enjoyer
>>537196325Not really, if I were at a ground level then people would run in circles doing fuckall and never having any gen progression whatsoever. My MMR is great mainly beacuse it isn't high where you're supposed to play meta non stop which is gay as fuck.
>>537195972its actually insane how little they seem to understand their own game at even the most microscopic levels. I'm honestly half expecting them to just start talking about characters don't even exist, I bet if you bitched at the redd*t dev about 'the giggler' needing a rework they'd fucking agree and ask for feedback on him
>>537195769>crouch jab >crouch jab >spiral arrowYour turn
They say the anti tunnel stuff is gonna hurt sadako and pig the most but I think Nemmy's gonna get fucked pretty hard by this stuff. There's a reason why he's got the image of being a tunneler because of contamination and having to spread hooks around on healthy survivors is gonna suck.
>>537196942"Behavior Dev !!The Gigglers Prostate Tickler is OP you need to nerf it!">next day 20 perks are Killswitched for 6 months and a stealth ""fix"" that removes Trappers Irridescents
This shit is going to hurt Twins.
>>537188980Have they just completely given up? Oh the slow stalking killer from the world-famous franchise who has been in our game for 7 years? Yeah, let's give him the exact same power as a character we just nerfed for no reason.
evens cherylodds mikaela0 zarina
Gonna hurt Sadako, Pig, Nemmy, PH, Deathslinger, Twins and Trapper the most and like usual Blight and Nurse don't give a fuck
>>537197639new deathslinger change: he can point the gun at his own temple
>Only play wraith and ghostfaceGuess i'll fuck myself with this patch
It's called anti-slugging and anti-tunnel update and I believe BHVR, this will eliminate these things because absolutely nobody is going to play killer anymore. Newish players aren't going to play a ridiculously one-sided game, when the match-up is already 4v1. And veteran players will just live in the small pool of unaffected killers, which for some reason include Ghoul, Blight and Nurse?
>>537197639Cenobite is gonna go even more extinct
>>537196857haha cool story mark
>>537197639>Moron r*ddit survivors complain about Blight and Nurse boogeymen on a daily basis>BHVR "Ok, here's a buff against every killer except those two"Are they doing it on purpose?
Assuming all the changes go through, which killer is gonna be the hardest Adept wise from here on out? My money's on Bubba's adept since all his perks are shit and do nothing now with him generally being slow and no longer having access to regression or bamboozle. Even his addons aren't great either.
>>537197402This shit is gonna hurt everyone The power gap is gonna be massive
DON'T YOU GUYS GET IT!NO ONE'S GOING TO PLAY THE ROLE THAT CURRENTLY HAS 10 MINUTE QUEUE TIMES!
>>537198167skull merchant has no power and average perks
>>537198016how the fuck has nurse not got put through a total identity death yet? she's the most commonly complained about killer since she's so common since she's free and her power is just a fucking nightmare to balance around since she ignores map design. I don't get how myers gets to be turned into tall chucky when people only barely complained about his insta kill addon being annoying while she just gets to be a tier of her own for no reason. it boggles the mind
>>537198167Still trapper and probably Pinhead. Just send the most recently hooked player to do the puzzle box each time, you can't teleport to it.
>>537198493NONONONONONON THERES NO PROBLEM AT ALL SEE THE QUEUE TIMES!!!!!! JUST IGNORE THE FACT THE MOST REQUESTED CHARACTER IN THE GAMES HISTORY WAS PUT IN
you dumb niggers can't do mathkiller will always have queue times because for every 1 killer you need 4 survivorsare you fucking stupid or something
>>537199310Why is the queue time 200x instead of 4x then
>Hear Ghouls TR>DC
>>537198584Because the devs can just point to her if anybody ever complains that the game is pay to win. "She's free and SSS tier though."
>>537199465Based
DBD is healing. No more tunneling, no more slugging. Our rulebook is being codified into the game.It’s beautiful.
>>537199465How are the dc penalties nowadays?
>>537199465I mistake his TR for hillybilly tr for some reason
>Take first chase>Watch as two niggers sit on 4th gen and let me get to T2 while one other guy loopsamazing gameplay out of these survivor players lately
>play pinhead>get the game>hit multiple chains in every chase as they shift w>still just can't play around the pallets on the map>feel like I have no agency>0kI mean, pain res dms yadayada I might be able to get more kills but it wouldn't make that match any more fun, I don't get why devs don't understand how dogshit the killer experience is purely from map design and gen speeds
Time to exclusively hard tunnel and pick one person to remove from playing the game entirely as punishment for wanting these changes
>>537198974>Just send the most recently hooked player to do the puzzle box each time, you can't teleport to it.Use the add that makes it so when you activate the box yourself become undetectable. Your only hope will be jump scaring the bitches
>>537199762I mistake Debtslinger shooting for Pyramid Head's M2 for some reason
>>537199748practically nonexistant for survivors
>>537187082What will you do when the rework made for 1 person exactly comes?
>>537199998I felt that myself lately. Spirit Fury Enduring helps, swing into every pallet or even better channel under one. You're supposed to like the pain after all.
Has anyone gotten RPD or Midwitch in the past couple of days? I haven't seen them in weeks I'm starting to suspect BHVR stealth disabled them for some reason.
>>537200008You are why these changes aren’t just a good idea, but a necessary one for the health of the game.
>Good killers don't gotta tunnel survivors to win matches
>>537199998they don't understand because they don't play killer at all the last time one of them played killer was 7 years ago when they got forced to in a live event and they've not played the role since
So how long until killer streamers, particularly CMWinter actually kill themselves with these changes? No sane person is going to play these killer changes 8 hours a day.
>>537200461if you don't want to get tunneled stop demanding more nerfs for all killers
We at Behavior have heard your complaints. So we are going to stealth drop a even bigger map to stop those D tier killer pests from even wanting to exist!
>>537200698At least Otz's stupid killer changes are basically dead now so we don't have to worry about them anymore.
>>537200461Extra slugging? Sounds good to me, fuck it. God is dead might as well make you suffer, no more complaining
>>537200529True
if they don't want people to camp hooks, why do they add the removal of the unhook indicator, so you have to stare at the hook like a fucking weeping angel
>>537200529WELL I DOSO FUCK THEM AND FUCK YOU TOO
>>537200698CM will find a way and he'll keep running the same perks. Also, I don't know why you are targeting CM?
>>537201110Dishonest post
Late to the party, but I don't think even the most deranged survivor troon would have thought up these patch notes. Wtf are BHVR doing? Even if this was for publicity, this is bad publicity and just shows they don't play their own game, and have no idea how to balance it correctly.
>casuals love the changes>compies hate themthat means the changes are good
>>537200529Shame I play bad killers
just give me 1 million bp if I get tunnelled instead
>>537200871I still go to Otz for advice but god damn does he have some stupid fucking ideas. I'm curious to see if he'll still toe the line because DBD is all he has left, or if he'll actually call this shit stupid
>>537201312tell me how it doesn't encourage camping if you have no indication if someone is saved
>>537201262I've only watched him a handful of times, every single game he claims the survivors did something and he HAS to tunnel this game (he doesn't usually, he claims), but it's the same routine every single game. If you question this in chat you get banned.
>>537201363has any survivoid anywhere suggested that if someone dies during a match all gen defense should turn off? I want to know where the devs got that idea from
>>537201203emichaelnem
>>537201110>>537201503It's unironically time for Twins to shine. Finally, it's been 8 years.
>>537200180grotesque image>>537197874true>>537196942we’ve known since forever they don’t actually test and play the game, cote getting btfo by koreans and then immediately nerfing flashlights after was the biggest example
TLDR on the patch notes please. From what I understand Survivors are getting every perk in the game basekit, and the game immediately ends as a loss if you kill any survivor as a killer, is this correct?
>>537201402It will come down entirely to the numbers on killer haste bbq and base pop. They also should NOT be just tweaking the numbers for each strong number. They should have standardized "tiers" for the fresh hook bonuses similar to the terror radius and move speeds. Then if a killer is over or under performing they can just bump them up or down a tier.
>>537201872Yeah unless you can quickly snowball afterwards (tombstone myers like killers). Otherwise you need 6 hooks. And you can't kill the last person you just hooked.
>>537201949*each strong killer
>>537201872survivorfags get 4 or 5 perks of effects if they get downed or hooked killers get a second of aura reading and half of pop if they hook a fresh survivor if someone dies before 6 hooks total all survivors get a permanent gen speed boostand if someone gets hooked then dies the killer cant kick or block gens for the rest of the match myers is getting changed to be a dashslop killer
but unironically why killeroids so mad? solo q niggers have no skill, no eys, no hands, no brains this was unevitable
>You know that famous killer from the 50 year old Franchise?>You know the one where he slowly walks and stalks his victim in the 15 movies?>Yeah? Well he sprints after you nowDo they need approval from the licence holders for this?
>Really close game against a Xeno>2 gens left me and a Baemar>Get caught healing>Baemar plays a tune>Xeno lets us goyknow when I was a killer main I always tried to be goofy and a little fun but after like 10+ ghoul nurse games this shit really stands out
>>537202474>play the game normally >get punished >w-w-w-why are you mad?
>>537202595stop falling for it
>>537202519I don't think anyone ever complained about Myers before, right?So what I don't get is why did they destroy one of the most well regarded tie in before even fixing their own killers. Skull Merchant is still a hobbled piece of shit
>nurse blink goes through obstacle>but then game decides that it didn't and I get teleported back>get completely disoriented and don't know where I am for a little whileI swear to god all you fags losing to my bugged ass nurse have no idea how much handicap the game is giving you
>>537202548>let both of you go>not killing the bard and letting everyone else go
>>537202783I 200% fucking believe they were gonna rework him to teleport around but then they got the rights to jason last minute and gave that shit to him instead, and they had to hobble together a half-assed backup rework for myers
>>537202783If they're updating playstyle they need to fix trapper. In the patch notes they've heavily nerfed fucking Clown lmao. What is gong on in BHVR HQ?
>>537202595>play the game normally
>>537203173I'm certain they're all drunk and just taking turns writing notes and actually coding. No one is actually happy at that company with the work they're doing but it keeps printing money so they can't walk away.
>>537202783swf bullysquads hate myers because tombstone shits all over their "fun"
>>537203247killing a weak link that couldn't get the fuck away from the unhook spot is a hell of a lot more normal than trying to dance around them just to be polite, or now to not get the entirety of your gen regression locked off
So this game is going to die in less than a year right?
>>537204016Haven't we been saying this for ages. As long as they can keep getting new IPs to put in the game and waifu skins they'll never die.
>>537204016We had a better run that we really deserved. First Evolve, now DBD. Is ASYM as a genre dead? Any other games worth looking into?
>>537204016they keep coddling the paypigs and as long as they drop a busted new killer every other chapter they'll get a steady enough influx of newfag fodder to be shoved into the meatgrinder that is the new player experience to keep them alive. I do think after they finally get Jason that its a constant downhill slope, they got just about everything else to collab with worth a single shit
>>537195576>>537195894>>537196084>>537196176Dare I say, we’re back…?
>>537204348>Is ASYM as a genre dead?God it really feels that way huh. nothing wants to break out of the DBD mold, we only see variations on it like more players on both sides (killer clown/Texas chainsaw)The only mutation in recent memory was Evil Dead which was almost like a hero shooter/looter shooter. Could have really come somewhere but it was smothered in the crib by EGS so they had no playerbase when they came to steam and just gave up
>>537201720Twins have always been strong theyre just boring and buggy
>>537200441anyone...
Bro, mikaela just fucking quit just cuz it's a kanekiFuck you bitch
>>537204292Pretty much. Bhvr still has a good 5 years left in them i would say >>537204348>>537204998Its definitely dead. Only other thing i can think of is Identity V and CH that's coming out... eventually. DbD really struck gold by more or less monopolizing it.
[Mikaela scream]
>>537204016Depends on whether the January chapter is more anime kino or more horror slop.
>>537191214>>537192684>>537193885>>537194819>>537195260>>537195382>>537200727Kek
>>537205908I pray for carnival hunt, completely original with no existing IP behind it and well made in alphadefinitely deserves to stay
>>537206290Kill yourself dummy
>>537197407I think so yes, it's not even really any kind of interesting type of dash or speed burst it's the most homogeneous dash they could have made
god ceno feels like such shit currently
>>537207416Good
>wait 20 minutes for a 2v8 game>one trillion pallets>huge map>only get a single kill>seven tea baggers Wow what a terrible experience glad I wasted 20 minutes waiting for this shit.
still no deathslinger buffs or fixes with all of these terrible changes is my favorite part
Reminder that the devs hate you.
>>537207710Sorry to say this but your real shit at this game
>>537207948But I'm a survivorchad.
>>537208018his real shit at this game?
Imagine if one of Myers's add-ons is actually his old tombstone version but super buffed. That would be funny. They did say in the complete patch notes they wanted to make his add-ons more unique this time. Some intern could have made it that way so a super op variant would still remain. >Gets 5% faster per gen completed>Aura reading>Infinite tombstone with the speed of piece.
>>537207948Okay where's the source of this so I can laugh at the killer main who wrote this to her face.
>>537207948I know this isn’t real but there are no perks built on tunneling
>>537208438what about remember me
>>537205908>>537206326>Carnival HuntShit, I remember seeing a clip of that game ages ago. Thanks for reminding me of it's existence. Apparently it's still in active development and had an alpha test this month. Maybe something will happen here. Who the hell knows
>>537208926Stop zoning.
>>537199468>nurse is kept as S tier because of pay to win complaintsThis argument doesn't hold ever since they reworked billy.
>>537209656billy is still free?
>>537209656Nurse is a buggy mess anyway. I don't think she's ever had less than 20 major bugs concurrently
>killer in 2v8>well coordinated gen slammers>survivor in 2v8>doing gens, you?
Reminder that if you think bhvr is retarded you will stop playing their game instead of just sitting here complaning, quit this terrible game with devs that don't care and just play something else.
>>537210046Last bunch of matches of survivor in that and they're all just absolute retards. Dropping every pallet, speed vaulting, fast exiting lockers I genuinely think people are just tired and want to do the minimum Amount of games for the pass and get the fuck out.
>>537208018SAAAAAAAR DO NOT REDEEM IT SAAAAAAR
>Being nice and shitNOT MY DBD EGC
The kick buff for a fresh hook is just dogshit because over half of the killer roster doesn't have good enough mobility to take great advantage of it. Should be a mini pain res.
When you think about it, coup and all shaking thunder makes every killer a dashslop.
>>537210543Same with the basekit bbq, and disingenuous pieces of shit like scott jund are going around saying WELL GUISE WE DONT KNOW IF ITS GONNA BE JUST LIKE BBQ even though they said it is going to be just like basekit bbq lmao
Thought. Ya know what could be a good 2nd mode? I dont know if any of you ever played FatKid on GMOD but something similar to that where instead of players doing gens they are trying to unlock more aspects of the map before getting killed would be a neat change of pace. Change how downs and hooking would work for it of course but it be a neat practice
>>537157768With the upcoming anti-tunneling changes, are they gonna let killers see hook states?
btw retards who complain about gens not being regressable if a survivor dies before 6 hook stages never played a 3v1 at 4 gens so their opinion is invalid ^^
>>537210543Yeah the only people who play the game on the dev team are blight mains go figure
Do you guys ever have these killer matches where you just feel bad for the survivors by how hard they're getting their shit pushed in?
>>537211906I tried playing blight in The Game today and holy fuck every time I reached someone was at a pallet. I think that map has 2000 pallets.
>>537212094wow if only blight was especially good at breaking pallets
>>537212329Well yeah but I break a pallet wait for charges to come back and they're at another (or a window to vault if in the underground area of the map)Repeat
>>537212520wow sounds like blight is pretty good at breaking pallets and in fact breaking the pallet is part of his normal gameplay cycle and not a real problem for him at all?
What aura perks does nurse want
>>537213438The good ones
>>537213683Yeah?
>>537208438Remember Me and STBFL
>>537157768have sex with sadako
>>537214890I'm fucking trying dude
So how many of these changes will actually make it to live? I'm guessing just the 90 seconds unbreakable, the unhooked survivor getting elusive and the hook state being hidden to the killer will but everything else won't.
>>53721520290 seconds unbreakable is pretty wild but managable. I reckon the Tunneling will not go through due to the fact it fucks up killers that cant necessarily control who gets taken out (Trapper, Sadoko, Pig, Hag and other teleport killers to an extent, Twins) its just too much
>>537215573The unbreakable is also going to suck when you gotta deal with swf bully squads.Though those aren't that popular anymore.
>>537215573>90 seconds unbreakable is pretty wild but managable90 seconds only happens if the killer is actively seriously attempting to slug someone just to avoid hooking them at all. Killers who claim being able to pick yourself up is insanely powerful are probably the same ones who cried about the facecamp meter and basekit BT. I would also love for all these killer mains to stream themselves playing solo queue with just an anti-slug build and see how much value they get out of it. The anti-tunneling system is just bad in it's entirety. Only solo survivor should be getting the buffs and killer shouldn't be getting any compensation for it. I don't care how often killer only players think they're playing against 4man death squads trying to kill them with flashlights, swfs aren't that common and only solo survivor should get any buffs.
>>537217039>swfs aren't that common and only solo survivor should get any buffs.I think this is the best opinion I've read so far in the wake of this entire catastrophe that isn't just kill it all. Sadly BHVR will never do it. That involves acknowledging that SWF has an innate edge and actually acting on it, thereby opening the Pandora's box of trying to address the fairness of comms when the game isn't designed around that and they are absolutely unwilling to have that conversation and will let the game die before they have to confront it.
>>537215202>>537217039Apparently Unbreakable is total, it doesn't reset. If you get knocked down for 30 seconds and then hooked, the next time you go down the timer only has 60 seconds to go.
>>537217949Maybe I'm rare in that I both play both sides and when I play survivor it isn't almost always in a swf which I'm feeling is fairly common for killers who claim they play both sides. SWF being able to coordinate pregame and in game is already plenty anti-tunneling. Solo survivor should get basekit anti-slug and anti-tunnel since they don't have that. Killer doesn't need any compensation for a couple solo player buffs that just helps them not play at a handicap that invites tunneling. I think the one thing that would easily fix the game is if the devs had to play dredge for a few games to warm up then they had to play solo survivor against wraith/nurse/ghoul >>537218512That really doesn't happen that often unless someone is intentionally slugging and it's plenty of time they can just hover over you and knock you back down. The anti-slug feels like a total nothingburger since it doesn't address practical times where it's really shitty which is at 4-5 gens and when there's 2 survivors left. Getting slugged at 2 gens isn't very common since there's actual threat of gen pressure at that stage and isn't just an extremely overpowered low risk cheese tactic.
>>537218512He's forgetting survivors have tenacity too which gets faster the longer they're downed. So they can very easily hide away and force themselves up to the 90sec limit. He doesn't know what he's talking about. This can also be proced by using plot twist at the start of the match too alongside soul guard.
>>537219156Can you post a game where you lost where a survivor was because they had tenacity?
>>537219328Survivors aren't using tenacity alongside unbreakable because they're a waste of a perk slot. It's a different altogether story when it's basekit. And it's coupled with punishments for being efficient at the game. And everyone has it too.
>its a waste of a perk slot because it's so good actually
>being disingenuous Of course, a survivor would be like this.
Remember, don't use any of the 600 perks in the game to counter killers, improve your experience or even make you more competitive. We must completely obliterate the other team. This is healthy and wholesome, if you disagree with anything in this post you are an incel killer camping tunnel weirdo and not wholesome or welcome in the DBD community.
>>537218697>I think the one thing that would easily fix the game is if the devs had to play dredge for a few games to warm up then they had to play solo survivor against wraith/nurse/ghouHonestly having them play the game in general would help. But as others have pointed out they have like two or three blight mains and the rest just don't play in general.
>being facetiousOf course, a killer would be like this.
>>537220094>Bad at game>Admins have to get involved and nerf other teamThis wouldn't be accepted in any other game, you can't even enjoy video games anymore. It's like your team in Battlefield having no radar and the enemy has 3x as much HP
>>537220094Post gameplay of you being countered by 600 perks?
>>537159097None of that will ever match giving a 25% repair speed debuff to the whole team after 3 hooks
>>537214890She only has an eye for tall gaijin of euro descent…
>>537210056Facts. I haven’t played in two years now.Just came back to watch the fireworks and have some banter.
A lot of these changes are overall making DBD tepid and artificial. Its going towards a flatlined "balanced" game with no oh-shit moments.Imagine playing survivor and knowing the killer cant press their advantage on you, knowing you cant run a real chase after a rotational hook because the killer got his mandatory good-boy-buff. Knowing a slugged or dead player doesnt matter because they'll just stand up on their own and you'll finish the gens quicker. Knowing Myers is just going to dashslop you and you dont have to be careful about getting Mori'd.The high stakes and nuances are disappearing slowly. I miss things like flashlights fucking over wraith and other little details.
>>537221628>I miss things like flashlights fucking over wraithThis was actually the thing that went over the line of actually just babying killers who can't handle a tiny bit of counterplay and want to be playing a PVE game but just choose not to for some reason. Of course it's ultimately from the same philosophy of just not fixing characters like blight and nurse and pretending like swf doesnt exist (while constantly balancing around it actually and telling solo players to go fuck themselves) but I think removing lightburn was the moment where the game actually lost its soul.
I thought this update was a shitpost when I first saw it.What kind of unholy drugs are these devs on?
>>537220094DBD devs said they balance for fun and not for skill. They're aware that high-level survivors have an advantage with these buffs, they don't care, they want the game to be fun for everyone.If it's an optimal meta SWF, you probably weren't going to win anyway, even with these changes.
>>537210692Scott's right though, you don't need to tunnel to win. This just hurts bad killers :)
>>537215202 If a Survivor dies before 6 total hook states, all remaining Survivors gain a repair speed bonus for the rest of the Trial. If the Survivor that was last hooked is Sacrificed or Killed, generators cannot be regressed or blocked.If these 2 dont get removed, game is fucked. I swear they put those lines in just so they can pull them back and pretend their listening.
>>537208926seriously what is it with the survivor cope crying about everything that filters them being "boring"
>>537211479lol noin fact part of the changes will be HIDING hook information from the killer
>>537222514>some pedo youtuber >right
Basekit BBQ and haste after hooking is stronger than anything survivors get
>>537223135The first one is fine as long as the buffs killers get for not tunneling are significant enough, and the repair speed boost is not too large. The second one is awful.
>>537223135There's no fucking way the gen repair speed buff is stronger than having another person on gens.
>>537223528It probably will be, especially after they fold to the backlash. Same as what happened with clown and xenomorph
>>537223510Me?
>>537223812I hope they do just scrap the "anti tunneling" idea entirely and just let survivors have basekit kindred and give solo players basekit OTR It's such a simple way to deal with the core issue.
>>537223807>the average match sees 2 sometimes even 3 gens done before a single hook >someone gets hooked twice and kills themselves on hook >the kill now loses all gen control ability and survivors get a speed bonus >people are actually defending this Imagine the meltdowns if this was going the other way, if 2/3 gens get popped before a single hook happens then the killer gains a permanent haste effect or something along those lines
>>537224231>the average match sees 2 sometimes even 3 gens done before a single hookDo you have a single fact to back that up?
>>537224231>killer gets an entire kill for free>cries because they have to kill the rest of the survs instead of slowing gens to a crawlI hate that they're going to listen to whiny faggot theorycrafters like you and kneecap this system before it ever has a chance to accomplish anything.
>>537224557Killer only players really are just massive theorycrafters and never actually show any gameplay to back up their claims. Their whole existence is a bunch of imaginary scenarios with no basis in reality.
Ruin/undying/tinkerer gave a lot of killer mains permanent brain damage. Every meta since then has killers stack as much slowdown as they can and think of the objective as stopping gens instead of killing. They consider a gen getting finished to be a loss and a personal attack so they have to stop the sound from playing at all costs. 3 or 4 gens getting done mindbreaks many of them.
>>537224557>killer goes against good survivors>they get all the same advantages as shit survivors throughout the 5 gen statesYou're basically not allowed to make a come back if 4 survivors manage to pop a few gens early in a match. You just lose
>>537224352>>537224557>dishonest survivorfags trying to deny reality
>>537225302Do you have a single fact to back that up?
>>537225357play the game
>>537225424So you don't?
>>537225561huh?
>>537225681You were asked if YOU had a fact to back up your statement. Your response was a deflecting comment suggesting someone else play the game for you since you apparently don't have a single fact to back up what you said. You have the level of argumentative skills as a flat earther who thinks his facebook feed is the same as what everyone else sees so he just replies "google it." Does that explanation help or are you going to keep being a little nigger baby?
>>537225821huh?
havent played in about a year since they kept nerfing my mains but what the fuck are they doing to survivors? it almost makes me relieved I picked up fucking fortnite because my god this next upcoming update is like a tactical nuke to anyone not playing nurse
>>537225821What are you talking about?
>>537225249Thats because alternative strategies like slugging and tunneling have been consistently punished throughout the life cycle of the game.You were either dealing with bully squads of survivorniggers running 4 second chance perks that made it a mistake to ignore gens, or you come to the hard handhold changes introduced by the devs where the game will outright punish you for trying to get kills over methodical gen control.
>>537226118its just a survivor main having a schizo meltdown as usual
>>537176063nothing compared to 2 window shack. I remember
>>537225249>kills are the goal of the game!>devs punish the killer for killing
>>537200871What changes were those
>>537211960Only if they're clearly new, like default Dwight running into walls and shit. If I see that I give Dwight hatch
Guys am I a good Cheryl?
Now that slugging and tunneling are getting fixed. We think its worth addressing the next problematic microaggression employed by killers.This is with regards to those who instantly pick up survivors after downing them. Given the number of perks now in the game that interplay with a downed survivor, we have decided to make a change.The next patch will introduce a 10 second cooldown between downing a survivor and giving the killer the ability to pick them up. In this time, the killer will get a 50% hindrance and have their non-m1 abilities disabled.To make up for this, the killer may use this time to assess the state of the generators and see a yellow aura of those being actively repaired.DEV NOTE: It’s no secret that picking up a survivor right away can be a good tactic for killers to quickly progress through the game. While this can be true, it’s also true that the results of this can be frustrating for Survivors running while-downed perks. Leading to Trials ending too quickly for some, while leaving others with wasted perks slots.The intention here is for both roles to feel the benefits and incentives that come from being downed. Survivors getting the opportunity to use their perks, and killers getting a breather and a powerful ability to see where they should head after finally hooking the survivor.
>>537227680Tldr buy walking dead nigger + soulguard?
If you tunnel someone out at 4-5 gens as a mobility killer you actually are going to be stronger than before the "anti tunnel" update.
>>537228058How so?
>>537228096You still get the better pop for fresh hooks later and have the mobility to deliver it
so if the unbreakable is infinite cant I just give it to myself with plot twist? lol and lmao its my fave perk in the game
>>537228332Except you can't regress gens after that.Read the update.
>>537228504plot twist only works once
>>537228504Yes, you could leave yourself on the ground for a full gen's worth of time just so you can get yourself up later if the killer is dumb enough to slug the guy he knows can self revive. Can't wait until I get retards like you in my soloQ games fucking everything up for no reason. Might as well try to use treacherous crows while you're at it.
>>537228539Can't regress gens only if you kill someone with 2 hooks in a row. Killing them below 6 hooks (but not 2 in a row) only gives them a gen repair speed.
>>537228723im talking about unbreakable basekit which allows you to pick up yourself infinitely >>537228746my escape record is good and I dont need exhaustion perks that arent dramaturgy. I've won too many games on having a silent free solo heal and it seems like a funny gimmick if they fixed the retarded AFK crows. also in solos plot twist is a free "COME RIGHT THE FUCK TO ME!!!!!" glowing neon sign to retards because they cant let me heal myself and lead the killer to me anyway
>>537228058>if you tunnel with a top tier character you can easily win your matcheswoah no way
>>53722853999% chance it's just gonna be that hook doesn't regress anything (no pop etc)
>>537229121so you agree the anti-tunnel update doesn't stop tunneling?
>>537229382Yes. I wholeheartedly believe it isn't going far enough and top tier killers all need to be gutted to Z tier
its bludy igh emm emm ar suvivahs innitbehay-vyah dun no wha dey doin
>>537227523Quick update. I escaped once. Thanks for subscribing.
Killer queues could be 2 hours long and killer mains would still try to argue that the game is survivor sided and survivors need more nerfs
>>537207948Quick, post this everywhere with no source to gaslight people into thinking it's real
>haven't played in 4 days>still forced to sit in time out
Survivorchads fucking won. Killeroids lost. KillerCELS lost. KillerTRANNIES lost. >NOOO I CAN'T TUNNEL YOU OUT AT 5 GENS OR SLUG YOU FOR 10 MINUTES NOOOOOKWAB!!! Remember who runs this bitch.
>>537231530It's funny because it actually does count down with the game closed so it actually just punishes people who got it for a non-rage reason like disconnected or power outage more than someone who ragequit then tried to requeue.
Boon: TroonAfter blessing a totem. You immediately lose one health state and go into the broken state for 30 seconds.For the rest of the trial, your portrait and model is changed from a male to a female character or vice versa and you permanently see the aura of the killer.Running next to a hook automatically puts you in the hook state. If the blessed totem is snuffed or destroyed, the killer sees your aura for the rest of the trial.
>>537231729I thought they changed the system so you needed X amount of clean matches to clearOr something like that
>>537232014You get 1 free one every 20 games. if you're a casual player it's actually probably more likely to accidentally trigger it than the previous time based one where a casual might play 20 games a cross a whole week.
Its going to be funny when the update comes out and the springtrap hype dies off, and the game falls back into hour long survivor queues. Will be even better when the retarded devs just start panic releasing increasingly buggy killer DLCs to try get people to play the role instead of fixing anything
>for years these freaks have went "umm your fun is not my problem" when playing like niggers>I kept telling them at some point BHVR will absolutely rape you with nerfs if you continue playing like niggers and it will become your problem>it finally happenedWell well wellShouldn't have acted like a nigger eh?
>>537232654Springtrap hype already did die off when they made him a relatively normal character that scales with time invested instead of little baby character for 3 year olds to autowin games like ghoul and blight
>>537232654More anime is on its way to end any lulls in excitement.
>>537232886>More anime is on its way to end any excitement.Fixed
>>537232695For years Nurse and Blight were the real problem and they've screwed over all the other killers again.Should just be a Nurse or Blight main eh?
>>537232654>the game falls back into hour long survivor queuesThis hasn't been a thing since 2020. What world are you living in?
>>537232936You would rather have horrorslop?
>>537233295but imagine if it was the opposite of how it is
>>537233295>t-t-that time when the game almost died because it was so survivor sided c-can't ever happen again because its not now!!!! SURVIVORS DESERVE FREE ESCAPES
>>537233525It is why I play the horrorslop game, after all.
>>537233685dbd hasn't been horror since 2017
>>537233836That's where the slop part comes in
Legion ruined 2v8 and the only way to save alternative game mode's is prop hunt with no gens, survivors just hide and chase until the timer ends and then the gates open and EGC starts.
is this a good build if i refuse to give these clown devs money? how could i improve it?
>>537234193prop hunt is too complex for the retarded survivor main
>>537200180Go back to Nurse I guess, but hasn't this Trickster rework been TBA for like 2 years now?
How long until BHVR decide that teabagging is toxic and makes survivors feelings hurt so they rework(gut) ghostface and pig to remove their crouch and turn them into generic dash killers?
I appreciate the changes in trying to reduce some of the least fun aspects of the game but at a certain point I feel like BHVR has to come to terms that hooking is just a terrible idea (alongside gens to some extent). I know DBD is far too late for something that major but still.
With the death of the third survivor, the maw of the hatch swung openAs Zarina approached she saw the decaying priestess standing before it, her face riddled with curiosity"Zarina desu... hatch desu? Coffee desu?"Zarina smiled, her answers at the ready as if she had been expecting the questions"Hatch desu. Coffee desu."With a kiss to Adiris' cheek Zarina jumped into the hatch, eager to rejoin her friends at the campfire
>>537235116Stillness in the air yet the leaves tussled around the trees anyways. Like the stillness of Mikaela and Sable's bodies close together after scissoring their pussies between Jeff's massive bisexual bear cock.
>>537201402>>compies hate themwhy? they literally made a switch so it could be turned off in custom games (because even BHVR realizes how retarded the changes are)the comp isn't affected
Remove hawkins holy fuck I just had what felt like an hour long game
What does tru3 think about all this?
2v8 Dead Dawg Saloon should be the normal map, minus a few filler pallets.
gaping otz' cute hairy spanish hole
>>537236810https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n6SqjGAt3Ashe refuses to play it
>>537237615Well he's not going to end his streaming career out of the blue, so what choice does he have? Does he think his "fans" will follow him to whatever game he chooses to play?
I see the devs are living up to his creed
>>537232695So then you agree that gen speed is too fast and that swf is problematic, right...right!?
>>537237915You did not pull off the legally blond moment, the implication was that Killers brought this upon themselves by playing in an undesirable manor, survivors were not mentioned.
>>537229121I look like that and say that
>>537232886>>537233525trooner posts>>537232936>>537233685>>537234106accurate posts
>>537237814He’s just doing his mandatory bitching outrage obviously he’ll play it eventually.
>>537231729not real>>537235116>>537235382not funny
How is Otz going to defend this one?>umm, listen guys, I dont wanna see this negativity in the chat, we know the devs are just trying new things and thats why we're having a PTB first you know, maybe these killer incentives are really good? Like you cant judge that until we've played it right. Aww but man its hard on some killers 'slaps his forehead', i mean its really tough chat, but we have to account for all players at the end of the day, just because you can loop the killer for 5 gens when he's tunneling, doesnt mean 90% of the playerbase can do the same, so lets not go crazy, i dont wanna see any insulting language towards bhvr in chat, mods please time out anyone acting like this is the end of the world, im sure some of these will be reworked after the ptb and i think overall its good they're trying these big changes
>>537238887>Um, let's just wait and see what the numbers are for killer before we judge>For all we know, killers could get 30% haste and 50%kick damage for 60 seconds after. That's what hens is doing rn. Legitimately that's the cope. Yw8y2
This game really needs a proper ranked mode to see who is shit and who isn't. You don't see this crazy kind of discourse in FPS or fighting games because people know their place
give me 4 good aura perks that don't need licensed killers
>>537200180the fuck is this shitart gtfo fujo
>>537239609people bitching about tunneling and facecamping in this game is equivalant to people bitching about throws and fireballs in fighting games
All of the shit is gonna get reworked anyways I dont see why people are chimping out
>ragequitting because you can't hit the Oppression checkdo lauriefags really?
>>537239857If we dont chimp out now, they'll think its ok and then we'll have to suffer with this dogshit for 3-6 months till they start reverting things back again.
>>537239609how could one even rank the performance of a survivor or killer? The game doesn't even have win/lose conditions.
>>537240112the devs in their infinite retardation have long ago said that "kills = skill"
I just realized how much of a fucking pain in the dick adept is gonna be if all the survivor changes go through
>>537240397they should just delete adept challenges so people stop using it as an excuse
>>537229121So just play the meta killers then, dumbass. If 80% of the roster is gonna be "literally unplayable" then play the 20% that isn't. I'm tired of whining from killer mains when they refuse to do anything to adapt.
>>537239765Except even the best pros bitch about throw loops and Mai OD fan. There is a level of cheese allowed or you'll get an army of Mai players in Ultimate Master rank that don't know fundamentals and can't win without her cheese. It makes the game completely linear and stale. Twins is a complete slog of an experience simply because she can slug super easily, unless her midget glitches, and just hold the game hostage.
I think I speak for all killer mains when I say that WE will be playing Killer Klowns from Outer Space instead from now on. I know that game has its issues too but it can't be worse than this dogshit.
>>537240504No clue what game you're talking about with Mai OD
>2.7m views>only 5.7k likes>all the QRTs and replies are shitting on themCongrats BHVR. Genuinely, this is impressive stuff. The majority of this game's playerbase is survivor mains and you showed such blatant and insane levels of favoritism towards them that even they aren't happy with it because it breaks the entire game.
>>537240653>12 players on Steam right nowLmao not even Elvira could save this shit
>>537241017Killers are acting like they should get basekit pop, corrupt, pain res, lethal, no way out, blood warden, stbfl, pwyf, fire up, deadlock and dms and make gens take 5 minutes to complete to play the game they're factually playing in an order of magnitude than people are playing survivor.
>first time playing 2v8 as killer>Using deathslinger (who I never played before, except once in custom match beforehand to see what he can do)>Have a lot of fun actually >4 kills at the end.The play while you wait feature is a game changer for sure.
>>537240960SF6
Survivors shouldnt be able to use pallets, heal, unhook, vault or do gens or hide
>>537241580Oh sorry I thought we were talking about real games, not FGC meme slop
>>537208926
>>537241638Your post was about complaining about popular complaints in fighting games. O.Sagat is banned in Japan because of strong fireballs, Tager got nerfed like in every like other loketest because they overly buffed his throws, and v-13 was literally deleted because of her fireball pressure. Also any fighting game is less slop than any asym game because there isn't party mode perks and a massive amount of aim assist for attacks to land.
Which killers can run whatever they want and still be viable? (not movement slop)Only Huntress comes to mind.
If survivors finish two gens before the killer gets a hook they should be blocked from doing any more gens until the killer gets a hook. The exit gate should also be automatically blocked until the killer gets one kill.
>nowxd
>>537241948Springtrap
>>537242278You already have Bloodlust for your baby mickey mouse hand holding for losing chase.
Guy who only plays one role tells you what would be "fair" for "both sides"
>>537237814Tru3 has a solid non-dbd viewership
I can swallow the anti sluggingbut these complicated invisible rules about who you're allowed to hook and not is fucking retarded>just wait to try it on the PTBno
>>537246031I also dont like the anti-tunnel stuff but because I think it's actually a big buff for high tier killers. They should do just the anti-slug stuff only and give just the solo survivors OTR or DS
>>537246031swallow deez
they just need to give a way for low mobility killers to traverse the map quicker
Kind of sucks that when a license gets back then they don't really bother adding any new stuff. Stranger Things still has the same shit as when it was first released.I kind of want to see more cenobites once Pinhead gets back in. They all do the same thing. I want Spike.
>>537246257They don't actually. They actually need to do the opposite and make the S tier ones worse
>>537240006>wait out the pain res>get oppression skill check>miss>dmsduuude... swag.
what does zeb think of all this?
>>537246305That's either Netflix not wanting to collaborate, or BHVR not wanting to put more eggs in an unstable basket.
With the massive amount of backlash they’re getting there’s no way any of this makes it to live right?
Anyone got a cool pig build?
>>537248039pig isnt cool, sadako isnt cool
>>537248026TWD, which I have recently learned doesn't stand for "Total Wraith Death", made it to live, didn't it?
>>537248073RUDELeave my niche cute stealth instakill girls alone
it's time to admit that tru3ta1ent was right he was always right about every single thingand you crucified him for it
>>537248039>Crate&Bag of Gears>Dark Arrogance + Boozle>PainRes>CoupChase ability and good ways to deny boxes.>Crate of Gears & Ruleset 2>Eruption>Nowhere to Hide>Trail of Torment>Nurse'sUndetectable surprises.>>537248186You forgot Clown's VHS
Again, read it again, to make sure I read what I read, and again, this is complete and utter garbage. There’s no fear of the killer. This is as shitty as TCM. This is turning into a killer bully simulator. When the fuck are yall gonna do something for killer?! What’s the point of playing killer?! This is so frustrating to read. Yall… yall just can’t get shit right this year. Complete garbage tier changes and I have NO idea how anyone said these things out loud, and someone agreed that this was the correct decision. What a crock of shit. Are anyone besides crying survivor mains happy about this? Put Matthew in a game and let him experience this like he did with the flashlights. Bet he folds and changes it immediately. This is inept levels of game design changes and shows a complete disconnect from you the devs to the player base and how games are actually going. Play your fucking game like at least once a month and you’ll know how stupid these changes are.
>>537248026you think they weren't expecting DEFCON 1 amounts of pants-shitting?they will push this to live 100%. expect some number tweaks to the system between PTB and release and then a mid-chapter with more proper changes from mass playtestingif they can patch out tunneling that opens up doors to make other changes elsewhere. if killers start generally underperforming after this change i guarantee other systems will be touched to make their lives easier. at least one would hope they would, it IS bhvr we're talking about though
If the killer slugs someone now, is there any reason for me to leave the generator and pick them up?Seems like the time is better spent just repairing and letting them pick themselves up
>>537248603It'd assume on how far away the guy is. 90 seconds is 2 gens, facoring in Boxes and Perks.If you're close enough to run there in 5 seconds, I'd say pick up for an increase of gen speed.
>>537248603i think being out of a teammate for 90 seconds is not really beneficiali feel like i would be very happy if i slugged someone and they were out of the game for a full 90 seconds because a survivor thinks they're min/maxing
i literally do not believe those changes are realthey are just too stupid
>>537248805good survivors are already letting survivors stay on a hook for 60 seconds and save them before they reach the next hook stage to min/max repairing
>>537248186Huh i never thought about it but it kinda is very simmilar>Can have stealth on demand>Is a woman>Has lore connected to videotapes>Has a way to instantly kill a survivor with 0 hooks>Is asian
>>537249027sounds like a comp strat not a "good survivor" stratif the killer isn't proxying/the survivor doesn't have deli that doesn't really do anything
>>537248401Those builds seem pretty fun, i dont have dark arrogance so can i use the wesker perk instead?
>>537248401Also if i dont have NTH whats a good replacement. Whispers?
They should implement 2v8 remote hooks to normal 1v4>Killer dosent know where the hooked survivor is so he cant camp >Killer dosent know where the freshly unhooked survivor is so he cant tunnelSee BHVR?
so what are you supposed to do if all survs run the same cosmetics
>>537249327>>537249601Sadly neither of these are REALLY good substitutions. NTH is for findind hiders, Whispers is to check deadzones and not really good for triangulation on slow killers. You could do Oppression instead of NTH for other gens. Maybe BBQ for a quick "get back in the game"As for Arrogance, yeah Wesker's is OK, Boozle+DA is the exact speed of that, so having a more situational but bit faster one could do well.
We need to introduce a gun item that survivors can use on both the killer and other survivorsthe only way to buff killers is making the survivor kill eachother
>um did you just chase me after chasing a different survivor?>that's a tunnel buddy, enjoy your permanent penalty
>>537249840Yeah thanks, BBQ is kinda the best option i think. I dont like running oppression without surveillance anyway
Can't wait for all the corny killers to quit so I can have short queues and play meme killer builds
This update will kill my both mains :/ Cause they rely on threat of instakills. meanwhile now it will become a treat for others
Can you imagine the bullshit swf will do?>Pig>Ok guys im trapped, i will do gens and let it pop so you guys get a free win>Sadako>Ok guys i will go turn every tv off and let her mori me so you get a free win Most retarded game company ever award
OOOO I PLAYED LIKE A NIGGER FOR YEARS AND NOW I'M GETTING SLAPPED ON THE WRIST HOW COULD THIS HAPPEN???OOOO BUT I WAS MERELY USING LE THING IN THE GAME HOW CAN I NOT USE LE THING IN THE GAME??? ITS IN LE GAME THAT MEANS I CAN USE IT TO BE A NIGGER??? IN THE MOST NIGGERISH WAY POSSIBLE??? OOO WOE IS ME I AM THE VICTIMk'oids lmaoyou get what you fucking deserve
>>537249815Go out of your way to begin chase with everyone just to see which guy is the one you need to ignore.Also if all have the same cosmetics, it's a swf and they already have massive advantages over you.
>>537251414great post
>>537251524cheers lad
it's no longer us vs themit's us vs subhumans
>>537251414How is using my killer ability to kill survivors early "playing like a nigger">Oh bro you cant put traps on people heads its being a nigger>Ohhh bro you cant mori a survivor when they max out contemned its toxic and like a nigger
>>537251951mm yes this update is most definitely in response to sadako and pig playerslogic: OFF
remember when you fags said swfs would loop around a hooked survivor so they could self unhook? same vibes with a player will simply kill themselves so their teammates get a repair speed bonus
Them not releasing any exact numbers is what bothers me, who the fuck knows how strong the killer or survivior additions if we don't even know how much they actually change?A slowdown after a pallet drop could be great but not if it's 5% for 5 seconds, I.E. new knockout.
>>537251384tell me the repair speed bonus because unless it's something like +35% it isn't worth it at all
>>537252218Maybe that's exactly what PTB is for and why this isn't coming to live instantly?Just wait
>>537252007Its not in response to them but it rapes them by indirect fire
>>537234406https://x.com/WacekTrickster/status/1929945721744306452?t=a4L4sdVQfQrkfZijPrHkAA&s=19Enjoy trickster while he lasts xdddd. I can't believe they are actually reworking a character to the wishes of like 3 or 4 people.
Dbd dosen't feel serious anymoreWe have fucking easter bunny chasing nicolas cage in freddy fasbears
>>537248401Unforeseen>Trail of tormentIts just a better version of it lol
>>537252216the extra layer of comedy is killeroids acting as if a survivor deliberately killing themselves will somehow ever be bad for them. guise oh my god a survivor suicided now they get +5% gen speed in the 3v1 how am i ever going to win thisliterally win one chase and it's GG
>>537252868Other way around. Trail can last so much longer on territorial killers.
>>537252728Legion was the nailTrickster was the hammer They just look gay and stupid in both aesthetics and gameplay.
>>537253532Half of the killers aren't scary.
So if I was already not tunneling before, I now get pop and BBQ for free?
>devs nerf broken strategy>wah wah catering to bad players waaa my free winsahaahh amazing things are happening
>>537254043Sex rebecca
>>537195972They're not bots, they're streamers/pro playersHens instantly recognized who the Meg was when he watched it
>>537254043yes. after years of 8-hooking it's finally our time to ascend to the thronethey weep and whinge about the idea of having to play like we've always donethe reward for honing an honest gameplan is upon us
>Ping pongs like how the JP players do
There should be no penality for hooking someone twice, only thrice
>>537254772that's kinda how it works mostlythe big stick only kicks in if you go from 2nd hook -> 3rd hook consecutivelyyou just don't get the carrot if you double hook someone
what are some good survivor skins but unironicallykinda just waiting for christmas to get the cheryl sweater atp
>>537254667now imagine this webm but the ace has an icon on the hud indicating you hooked him lastwyd?
>>537254645>local germoid recognizes a meg standing still
People are really trying to threaten the playerbase with non-tunneling Blights and Billies like that aren't the most fun characters and I'll never have to face a tunneling Trickster or Plague ever again
>>537255673The cosmetics
only in dbd will you find cucks that like getting raped by S tier characters over and over than to play vs a low tier killer
>>537255646but leon was the last survivor hooked in this webmi'm not trying to sidestep the hypothetical but 8-hook theory is that i wouldn't be in that scenario period.but yeah if he was the last hooked survivor and was on deathhook (this was his 2nd hook i believe) then yes i would have to finish the game without regression (which i've already mostly used up anyways)
What if someone intentionally dies on hook? With slippery meat and missing skillchecks?
>>537256308no this one is still sillyall variations of "what if a survivor intentionally kills themselves" is the same level of a survivor taking no mither + plot twist to instantly disable corruptlike sure, it does do something, but now you have 2 dead perk slots and one of them is no mither. yeah you won't get any more regression but you're now in a 3v1 at ~5 gensthe numbers would have to be retarded for that to be good for the survivors
>>537256186Yeah the actual impact isn't that big for non tunnellers, but it still really fucking sucks to have the game literally tell you "YOU TUNNELLED" when you basically went out of your way to play fair
>>537256115>Any fighting game>Any hero shooter>Literally any time where low tiers are inconsistent
>>537256115In CS you have more people seething about being killed by P90 or Negev than M4 or AK
>>537257040>Getting AK onetapped 854616589 times>Game as usual>Hears a single Autosniper or 1014 once>Surrendervote
>>537256836if this was a different developer i'd say something like, yeah hopefully they identify that even though the outcome ends up fine it might still feel bad to be playing honestly and get slapped with a penalty and try to smooth off that edgebut it's BHVR, so that pain point probably stays. still, at least they're making the honest playstyle feel good and rewarding, so i can't complain too much>>537257040i have a friend who starts genuinely tweaking any time he loses a rifle to an ADADAD smg gamer22k premier and it's still every single time
>akchually having 3 gamemodes wont triple wait times>m-many would be willing to wait 30 minutes for a balanced match!!!!Absolute delusion.
>>537258020this is a good take honestly both game modes can be balanced in different wayssimply drop the casual mode when a new slop queue like gayos shuffle is live
>>537258020I can name a hundred games that went to shit the very moment they added a ranked mode and started balancing around whiny compshitters
>>537258136>lights out or 2v8 comes around>only choice is to get raped in ranked or get raped in some dogshit boring gamemodecongratulations the game is dead>>537258260can i get like 5
>>537258396the entire game will be dogshit and boring as of next patch
>>537258474disagree
>>537157768>big breasted ghost rapist
>>537157768New update disconnects you from the game and sends a SWAT team into your home for even THINKING about hooking a survivor apparently.
I rarely play survivor and whenever I do, it's always because I feel like seeing some different killers, or even the ones I play but from a survivor POV.Sadly almost every match is the usual shit like wesker, legion. I'm not a very good survivor so I guess I don't get nurses and blights on account of that.
>>537258020Most of the sweatiest killerbase won't play ranked. I've had meta Blights DC on me because I looped them for too long. There are videos of "high level" killers playing casual event modes with camping and tunneling despite no MMR. In the old ranking system killers would willingly derank to play Ruin Nurse vs weaker survivors. SWF filled with speedhack cheaters would probably fill the top ranks on the survivor side anyways.
>>537254043Yes brother, and we no longer need to use a perk slot on BBQ. It's our time.
>>537251414Yeah, Survivor has always been a real faggot role
>>537258396OverwatchRocket LeagueLeague of LegendsTeam Fortress 2Apex Legends
The wording on Myers new lunge attack is very strange. Instead of saying anyone he hits with his attack goes instantly down, it says something like 'any survivor coming in range of his lunge distance' or it was something weird like that. It makes it sound like he will down them and go through them like Bubba's chainsaw.
>>537260823At least OW and LoL started with a ranked mode, the reply chain was about a ranked mode being ADDED, implication being game didn't have it before
>Wait for le ptb
>>537258020>ranked dbd>comp dbdLol
>>537260972Overwatch didn't launch with a ranked mode. For a brief period, it was bliss. Hero stacking, meme shit, 2CP. God I miss it.
>>537260823At least tf2 is still a fun game honestly. Just a shame they tried to copy OW's shit and killed quick play as a result
>>537261273Tf2 is fun if there is no snipers or pyros around
>>537261443How am I supposed to have fun if the only class I play isn't around
>>537261519long range oneshot in a close/mid range game not funknockback and DOT not fun
>>537261659I'd wager way more people find Spy not fun than Pyro
>HexI don't play much survivor, could one of you explain why it should be a hex for taking 4 hooks to even proc?
>>537254043>I now get pop and BBQ for free?explain>>537254667most "impressive" wesker play. retards will say he's "skillfull" because he has two dashes and can slide if done correctly. wow
>>537260823what kinda changes has rocket league ever had. it's been more-or-less the same game forever right? TF2 comp scene is all grass-roots, they just ban out the shit that's aids to play around. they did add a comp mode but that shit was doa, i don't think much of any balance has gone towards it or the comp scene in general. i do miss the old sandman though. and quickplayleague i think is pretty fine, i think they've done a reasonably good job at balancing at both ends of the skill spectrum. ARAM (the real game) is also the most evergreen it's ever beenOW is 100% ass though. i'd say that's way more on blizzard's failures of design than comp shittery but also BHVR has that in common so it's the best example of what would probably happen to dbd if they went down that routecan't comment on apesex
>play as Sable with Ciri skin>load into game>get tunneled by Knight using the Eredin skinOk
>>537261107ThisThe only time games without a ranked mode add a ranked mode is to artificially increase player retention, and when they're doing that you know it's not long for this world. An assymetric pvp with ranked is a laughable idea especially seeing BHVRs track record at "balancing"DBD would suffer for this especially, as of right now despite everyones whining it doesn't really matter if you win or lose and the fun to be had is in the gameplay, not a number going up. It's a fucking party game, for too long game devs have believed the niggers whining on twitter and reddit represent their entire playerbase - no more.
>>537261735Spy is fun and makes mindgames, exept facestabs or trickstaps in general
>>537261879You get basekit pop, bbq, and a haste boost after hooking a fresh survivor with the next patch
>>537261879who's your top 3 most skillful killers
>>537261889You have numbers that go up here. Like BP and the rank or whatever you call that garbage. Obviously, anyone with 2 brain cells or more doesn't care about the ranks and knows they don't even affect mmr, but that description excludes 99% of the dbd community.
>>537262260BP and Rank here exist to let you unlock thingsMMR and Rank exist only to inflate egoThere is a big difference in the feedback loop here, imagine if playing poorly deducted your BP? People would be a whole lot worse.
How bad would this game be if MMR did, in fact, actually reset every friday 13th?
>>537262392Would be weird to have it be so rarely, when you do it at all.
>>537262392half of every month would be unplayable until people ranked up as with literally no matchmaking every game would be extremely one sided
>>537261887Good thing its just a skin because if you ever played the game you know full power Ciri unironically would be able to kill every killer in the game
>>537262392we had that, newfriend. back when your rank was used for matchmaking, pre-MMRit meant a lot of really poor matches for a little bit (as everyone's jumbled into the same tier) and then some solid matches for a little bit (as only fellow losers would be back in rank 1 so quick) and then about the same as softcap is now after about a week or so (once the general playerbase filled rank 1)
>>537262670Fuck you faggot I've been playing since 2022, I'm a vet.
Name one game that has had a truly good MMR systemThe unfortunate fact is that it's incredibly complex. League of Legends has been tinkering with theirs for a literal decade and they still can't find anything that works. If one of the most affluent vidya companies out there can't figure it out, there's no fucking chance BHVR can in a game that isn't even equally sided.
>>537258020Playing this game casually can be frustrating enough. No thank you I am not 15 year old to care about virtual jpeg rank that defines my worth online.>>537262223This post alone made me realize that no killer really takes any skill whatsoever, it's all about macro and whatever killer has it harder to navigate around the map could be considered "skillfull" just because of how much effort you have to put in unlike meta killers. It is however easy to say which killer is the most braindead. Every single killer can get fucked by certain perks or strategies, like pig with having every gen on 99 so she cannot have her traps working. Trapper by loading into eerie of crows. Wesker only by loop and that is ONLY if you don't know how to slide tech, besides that he seemingly has no weaknesses.I won't really say which killers are the "most skillfull" but hardest to pull off.>Sadakocan get your TV literally turned off and entire power rendered as useless, the only redeeming thing about her is demanifest/manifest during chases to fuck with survivor's mind>Nemesissupposedly designed to be easy but getting TIER 3 without addons is hellish, your only info is from zombies that are also useless if you don't have addons.>WeskerPretty much riven of dead by daylight. The better you get at him the less counterplay there is.>HuntressJust learn to aim and how the hatchets work. Can run anything you want.>Deathslingerslow, low range, 4.4m/s like huntress but cannot shoot anything globallyIt's a matter of how much the killer's power fuck you over and how much control you have, how much you can blame it on yourself. I suppose spirit is "skillfull" if you play with music but the game is so easy to learn that no killer is too hard to play. Just takes few games of playing and you should know. Survivor is a different story and it's purely RNG and MMR but definitely easier depending on how good your team is.
>>537263058>since 2022yer goin'ta make me laurgh
>>537263083trvke also dbd is held back because it doesn't have all that many players
>>537263083I'm not sure I even like the idea of MMR. Putting all this effort to try to force a 50% winrate sounds like shit to me. Also means that, should it work properly, you win just as much when you're good as when you're bad. Which is crazy. You're improving... but you don't win any more, not really.Back in my day you'd go in an arcade and you'd have to git gud against people who could rek your shit up, and if you were too much of a bitch to do it you'd just stop coming.Now those were the good days *sips monster*
>>5372630582022 is babs material
This game could do with more objectives for survivoids so that generators arent the only way to escape.
>>537263328I thought people would be better at picking up, but I guess not.
compcels want ranked because no one cares about their 87 mickey mouse tournament wins so they have nothing to flex.
>>537263083tl;dr want to fuck Jill
>>537263083Fortnite ranked system!
>>537263729No anon has ever been so correct about anything.
>>537263761The game where 85/100 players are literal robots? That's your idea of good matchmaking?
>>537263729This but Lara instead
>>537263272unfortunately every single time a game studies their player retention between MMR on/off it always, always results in lower retention having it off. or in other words, players have more fun when MMR is in effect than when it's notsilver lining for your school of thought though (and not one i necessarily disagree with, 'true' pubs are fun), dbd's current implementation of MMR falls off at the mid-high end. the strong (particularly killer) players are winning consistently (>50%) despite being top MMR.i think hens just finished another impossible streak, winning on every killer in a row with a limited pool of addons and only being able to use each perk a single time, with his performance dictating how many perks he's allowed to use in the next match>>537263423the brain-drain on this site has become so severe it's hard to tell sometimesi figured it was a joke but gotta cover your bases
>>537263879I'm talking about ranked mode, not public matches. Besides, it's more like 15/100 bots per game anyway
>>537222391>Balance for fun>Survivors have an advantage>Fun for everyoneDo you read your own posts before you submit them?
>>537224231>2 or 3 gens done before a single hookThis has never happened in the history of the game. A blind person could do better than this. If I don't have at least 1 hook before the first gen I just AFK in the corner
>>537264098Letting average survivors continue to get hard raped by tunneling killers results in less fun for more players. Why do you think killer queue times are 10x longer than survivor queue times?
>>537264098I'm pretty sure "balance for fun" is just codewords for "shit survivors should still get to win"
The game takes such a turn once it's 1v2. It's an inevitable win for the killer and nothing you can do about it. Would it make sense for the hatch to spawn so that only one survivor can escape and the other one has to open the door? Just to keep up the tension.
>>537264263I play survivor a lot lately and if the killer prolongs first chase its not unreasonable to have 2 on 1 gen pop it and the 3rd guy pop another gen just after the down
>>537224647It gets really funny when they start theorycrafting about "flashlight bully squads" and lightborn too. Real ash rank tales
>>537264009>i think hensI honestly have my doubts about these streamer show offs, who knows what they do with their mmr off screen when the stream is off. I don't watch anyone though (I don't watch people play games for me that's silly) so I can't say if he had some proof or whatnot about that. I wouldn't know.
hopes and fears from the inevitable Dexter chapter?
>>537225302This guy hasn't had a single argument for the past 2 threads every time someone btfo's him he just goes>umm youre dishonest>umm this is bait
If they wanted to actually balance this game they'd remove reshade, and actually fix 2 survivors hiding each other out. Why should I have to wait 10 minutes to lose a match because two retards are swapping lockers in the basement?
>>537263914Why does she have 5 o clock shadow?
>>537264009I think having some sort of mmr is alright, but it needs to cap at a point where you can go "yeah okay people know the game now, stop holding their hands". So in that sense, I think the mmr currently in dbd is fine.It caps early enough that you can still express skill. So you can have these people who are truly good getting these truly nice results. Instead of virtually going on for ever and you never really reap what you sow much because it's just an infinite climb.
>>537264726They'd get crows from that and at 3 crows you get a global notification of where they areOnly doing gens or totems would stop them from getting crows at that point, there's no such thing as sitting in basement for 10minutes
>>537264726Didn't they update crows to be more aggressive a couple of months ago or am I tripping
>>537264874...it's dirt
>Inherent system changes forcing you to play the way the developers want you tot-thanks
A minor gen speed buff is really not a big deal when someone is dead. The benefit of a dead survivor is not JUST slower gens, but also a multiplication of pressure from any chase you do, hook you get, slug you get, gen kick. Less gens can be worked on AT ONCE, more manageable. To get an unhook, now half of the available team must leave gens, if you're chasing one, nobody is now on gens. Altruism plays interrupting your chases or hooks disappear in a 3v1 because they can't afford them. A minor gen buff for each death is not unreasonable, the game ultimately SHOULD allow for solo players to not feel miserable and they shouldn't have to take 100% accountability for getting an awful teammate. Though, they aren't doing a minor gen speed buff for each, but ONE speed buff if they detect that the killer freakin unwholesomely tunneled, so it will probably be an overtuned speed buff to be a disincentive. The killer should not be punished for doing their objective though, and I think the benefits from fresh hooks will probably just not be enough to strike that balance.
>>537261905Spy is honestly the most unique character in any fps I've ever played. Love that French fuck>mfw every time I kill a medic with a backstab and then shoot his partner to death with my surprisingly strong revolver I wish Wraith was completely invisible like Spy is sometimes for the potential jumpscares
>>537264897>>537265028Crows were disabled due to being too aggressive. I think there was also a bug where any interaction reset the timer, which for some reason included vaulting and lockers.
>>537159752just play blight bro
Amanda from SAW>cheeky>Female brat>The youngest of the successorsAmanda from DbD>Facial expression is dead>Unable to get along>She has the older sister position among the killersWhat did the entity do to her?
>>537264581nah streamers deranking off-stream (or in the same genre, streamer matchmaking) is a spook. it's trivially easy to catch because there's no way to not gain XP. and if they're DCing to derank, then the escalating DC penalty would prevent it from being an effective way to lower your MMR. a few games on and it's balanced out completely, or still far in the positive essentially.anecdotally, these killers who maintain high win/killrates on stream are getting lobbies that more-or-less match what i see playing at a similar level. like scott, for example, gets lobbies that are identical to the kinds i get, while maintaining a high killrate.it just doesn't seem like something that has basis in reality, just vibes
>Killer no longer knows when you unhook>Resurgence meta>Free resets every unhookinjuries are meaningless in modern dbd and are only relevant to all the dogshit m1 killers who still have to play around it
Without kidnap tech Ghoul is unironically an honest killer
>>537265860>>537265860>>537265860
>>537265716She SAW the 9.2.0 developer update
>>537265716>headcanon>headcanonHow do you feel about this being true?
>>537256308then the killer cant do any gen defense for the rest of the match
>>537159357Holy shit rare spurdo, cheers
