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>>537201310
>Playing a low forward momentum, slow movement character with no reliable projectile
I dread the day I encounter a non-retarded Dizzy player that stops his own advantaged stages and allows me to get hits in
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Elphelt!
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jaggo gawaii
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>>537202898
hfw i whip it out
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breadly sin
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lucy looks like she got ported from a different game
her model looks really goofy
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>get to plat 3
>get told i'm below average even though it's supposed to be top 9%
>get told my by friends that I need to be diamond 3 to be considered "average"
Just a reminder that if you are above silver 2, you are cute and valid and above average statistically speaking.
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>>537203159
Silence lowly 9%er
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>haven't played in years come back for ranked
>spend 10 minutes learning new bnbs and whatever the fuck wild assault is
>lose my of my placements games and get put in gold
>figure it out shortly afterwards
>molesting people on my way to diamond
Haven't had this much fun in fighting games in a while I can see why people smurf now.
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>>537203159
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>Slayer's c.S catches my backdash
>not because of any precise timing, just because of how fucking far it reaches
fuck this white nigger, committing robbery in broad daylight day after day
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I would like a formal apology by every Milia player for downplaying so hard after hard evidence being provided. Turns out Milia playing a single player game and the opponent not being able to press a single button the entire game is in fact dishonest.
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venom is fun when you do offensive stuff with him but really gay and lame when you do defensive stuff
i dont know if i like him
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>>537204684
he has no real offense if the opponent knows how to block. he has to win by reacting defensively to what his opponent does. that's why he's bottom 1, soive is a gorilla game.
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>>537204451
Millia was a bottom tier that only dedicated character loyalists were willing to stick with for basically the whole lifespan of the game until she finally got buffed into being a decently playable mid tier and now her playerbase has the training weights off and are taking their rightful place
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>>537203159
Please don't call me cute as i a mere nerdy Asuka player and therefore suffer a deep sexual insecurity with women
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>hit someone with a ball
>they lose 15%
>someone dodges the ball
>i lose 50% and their vortex begins
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>millia player thinks he wasn't carried since season 1
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How are we doing in ranked, kizzingtons?
I recently got Vanquisher so I'm feeling real good
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>>537203159
"Average" depends on your standards. If you're using the total spread of the playerbase (and most charts you'll see this early are probably already outdated by the time they're posted) as a metric then sure, bronze 3 or whatever the fuck might be average, but at that point you're comparing yourself, someone with probably thousands of hours in fighting games, to little Jimmy (9 y.o) trying to do motion inputs for the first time.
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>>537205380
too many rollbacking retards
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>he plays as wh*te women
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how the fuck do you drop frames in strive?
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The only acceptable casino character in gg is I-no because she is hot, wears glasses, has hot lipstick and is based on daisuke's musicfu Shiina Ringo. ALL MILLIA PLAYERS ARE CARRIED NO MATTER THE GAME.
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does johnny get guard break from every single knockdown now
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Soive is so much more fun than Dix that game is fucking brainrot, why did I ever leave.
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>>537206937
congrats on your transition xister!
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>>537206937
even tekken 8 is better than dix
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>>537207282
as someone who tried all 3
STRIVEGAWD >>> dix >>>>> mashen 8
tekken is best when treated as a party masher and not a real fighting game
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>>537207539
it can at the very least be treated as a party masher
dix is dogshit at all levels of play
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...Okay I'm starting to see why Millia might be an issue in a FT2 ranked mode
But I'm surprised Goldlewis "Millia Rage" Dickinson isn't higher up the list though I did only just now remember you can actually YRC their Typhoons now
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>>537208396
they dont know how to play neutral without jD
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>>537208396
Because goldlewis shittingson players have been mostly pressing jD for years and now it doesn't work.
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wtf is dix
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sorry random pot i didnt rq my game has been crashing on alt tab
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>>537208567
next youre going to ask what is jive
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>>537208567
street fighter 6

>>537206937
idom says he likes strive more than sf6
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>>537208496
>>537208543
Didn't they just shoot the active frames? I thought you just had to time it later now, so less retarded of a move but still an insane jump-in.
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>>537209173
I 6P'd it on reaction the first time he did it then he sat in the corner never doing it again only relying on the other neutral skip
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people here will say millia is top tier broken but those same people will not grab my tk turbofall mixup in lobby
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>>537210019
I've hit you with 3 back to back tap dusts
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>>537210019
i have never lost to you jimbona
shut up faggot shitter
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do giovanna players think they're good
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>>537210019
I would react to 90% of your setups if you didn't have a lagswitch faggot
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>>537210328
the TO is the millia faggot ????? oh.......i need to take some time to process this........i dont know if i can join it anymore...........
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>>537210309
thats because im ass though
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>>537210354
yes my neuch is clean yes you will get ch'd by my incredibly spaced 5k
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>>537210328
ft10
>>537210370
get a wire wetback
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how can i make this about me?
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>tournament drama
LET'S FUCKING GOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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>>537211560
Tears in my eyes from the nostalgia.
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>>537211560
Hold on what happened?
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Millia guy is pretty good but the best person I’ve played here other than sneed is the bedman guy
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Do Gagler and that awful Sol still play in the lobbies?
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>>537212380
i saw gagler last night
dunno who the awful sol is though. gogeta?
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>>537212380
>awful sol
hes a real nigga because he actually plays in lobbies
fuck you
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>>537212380
don’t shit on the floor 6 sol. he has the spirit
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lobby?
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>>537213382
Sure man one sec
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LOBBY
CODE: 124578
ft3 currently if only one person joins I will make it infinite :)
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That's right anon, go....
Don't look back....
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>>537212380
>>537213809
Why don't you come find out?
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>>537214590
based
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>>537209445
>only relying on the other neutral skip
do you have any idea how little that narrows it down when we're counting j.D as a neutral skip? the entire character is massive disjoints
drone?
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Ggs giovanna you were pretty good
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>>537210019
What makes Millia broken in the new ranked is that FT2 isn't enough to figure out what mixups these niggers even know or will use
Do you understand how fucked up that is? I'm over here trying to figure out which of 60 different mixups this nigger is going use while the baboon on the other side might not even know more than 5
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>>537217128
you're arguing with someone who thinks millia has bad neutral
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>>537217010
ggs pal sorry I had to go so soon
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>>537217128
true that millia can fraud and farm most players in ranked because of not being given enough times to learn the mixes, but that doesnt mean that she is good against someone who actually knows what those mixes are. its very common i play into a millia mirror and play someone who doesn't even know their own mixes and die on layer one.
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Why do I, as a respectable strike throw player, have to bear the burden of learning all 500 different Millia mixup setups in order to win the matchup, when you don't have to learn anything in order to play against me?
Make it make sense
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>>537217785
Just play HC since he breaks the rules of the game with his unfair gun.
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>>537217785
>bro why doesnt my white bread strike throw have as many options as the tissue paper pixie
you are the problem with this game
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>>537204451
The perfectly balanced character.
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>>537217997
I don't respect Millia players as human beings, I don't care about your opinion
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>>537217401
what do you mean "know the mixes"
H disc is real mix, and badmoon is real mix
inb4 fd and badmoon whiffs
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Do some light e-stalking of the tournament entrants' MR for seeding
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I'm seeing a lot more players picking laggy or distracting stages paired with obfuscating character colors... Ranked really brings the worst in people...
And it's mostly Millias too, pieces of shit.
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>>537218293
In a Millia player's """brain""", if it's not an unfuzziable mixup where all possible options hit literally at the same frame then it's not a real mixup
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>>537218293
i mean letting me mArtemis on block in mid screen
i mean letting me get a reset after my sdisk loop with tktf
i mean letting me do my aerial blockstring at all
i mean letting me do throw disks and treating them as meaties
off the top of my head
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>>537219031
finna dp rc
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elphelt mix is better
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>>537219031
ok but when someone punishes your resets and gimmicks you can't cry low tier because you're doing unsafe shit like you always do
fuck you faggot
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>>537218514
Str*vers...............I'm sorry................................
jimbona - Millia - 1424 DR
O_Informático1378 - Asuka - 33645 RP
Zetsuboushita - Anji - 1425 DR
Maelis - Lucy - 33580 RP
Van Augur - Faust - 1404 DR
Mikamo Neru - Sol - 42700 RP
Jizz Connoisseur - Sol - 17975 RP
Riot Stamp - Ram - 24435 RP
Malsocio - Bedman - 1458 DR
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>>537219620
>not on the list
heh
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>>537218957
I remember LK making a video about mixups with the premise that something was only a mixup if it hit on the same frame
Why do good players have the worst takes
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>>537219487
i never meaningfully complain about doing fake shit and being punished
i complain about not having options to get in if the opponent waits me out
>>537219820
>lk
>good player
pick one
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>>537219620
I'm behind 7 alt accounts
Good luck finding me
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>>537219820
he's right in the sense that it's only real mix if two options hit on the same frame
everything else can be fuzzied
its why go1 was impossible to open up in certain seasons of dragon ball, his fuzzy defense was perfect
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>>537219882
>i complain about not having options to get in if the opponent waits me out
On Millia??? The character that moves around the screen like she's mainlining amphetamines? Nigga what
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>>537219882
>millia
>no options to get in
Just admit you're bad at the game
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>>537219882
have you tried using your fast speed and 9000 air options to bait out shit fucking moronic idiot
this is like a chipp player dooming because he can't figure out how to win neutral
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>>537220049
>>537220126
>>537220118
watch the last time millia was on main stage and see how she performed
verix vs sorani
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>>537220214
It's a good thing you're not playing in tournaments you're playing online where your character is literally the most represented at the highest level of play
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>>537220214
you're definitely just as good as verix
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>>537220214
I don't take orders from a Milliafag
Grovel and beg before me and I might consider watching it
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>>537210019
I 6H those.
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>>537219820
He's kind of right in the sense that it becomes more of a knowledge + execution check but that does not make it bad because they can still work on good players (in fact they do because nobody is some perfect robot who always nails their execution), it's just that you would have to make the gap a really low frame amount for it to be good enough assume they have some awareness of the mix.

>>537220435
Main?
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>got baited this long
the last bits got a bit sloppy
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you can only complain about millia being bad if you play offline in a zero latency environment
mixup characters that test reactions like her are exponentially better with even the tiniest bit of network delay. ibuki was an absolute monster in sf4 online but had zero tournament results
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>>537203618
seems like placement is average, no?
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>>537219882
I mean bro... LK might not even be in contention for best player, not even for best mixup player
But if you say he's not good you might as well be saying there's less than 100 good players in the world
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Why does milia get a cutscene every time she hits you? Katano, shoot this bitch and put her crossups on a reka like Lucy
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Ggs lucy/elphelt/venom player
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>>537220670
nago
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Who are the favorites to win the tourney? I might put money on a dark horse
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>>537221937
I dunno but I will always cheer for our Ky and Anji players for playing the true Z tiers
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anybody watchin the arcrevo stream or nah
some of these japs look just as goofy as the evo freaks
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>>537221731
ggs was fun
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Elphelt's f.S has the same animation as Venom's 6K
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Has anybody's game started crashing when they're getting into a match with CreamInstaller installed?
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So can that dash up low Lucy does be thrown? Backdashed? It kinda looks it but I'm not sure
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>>537222761
Just punish it, it's -12.
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>>537219820
it's only real mix if a good player can't cover every option with one set of inputs they have no real reason not to do
A rekka that goes mid>low>high isn't mix because you just block low and then high, but if you can do mid>low>nothing then 2D that can be mix even if it's kinda bad and reactable because now they have a reason to not just block the high automatically, but only if you can make the 2D hit at least pretty close to when the high connects.
A safejump isn't really mix even if you can empty land into low and catch people fucking up their fuzzy timing, you're not mixing them they're just making an execution mistake and getting hit, but late airdash high/land low is mix because now they have to guess, as long as they connect close enough you can't reliably fuzzy guard it.
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>>537206937
Stop queueing for ranked, take a nice visit to the tower and you'll remember.
Downpatch the game back to when Wild Assault was at it's strongest, you'll remember.
I imagine you didn't play against pre-patch Potemkin, be glad.
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>>537214456
that's not a guilty gear character...
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>>537213809
GGs faust
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>>537213809
Room is now closed Ggs everyone
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>>537213809
ggs, I wish lucy player had stuck around longer / not been my warmup games, you'll eat my CH c.S yet for trying that crossup without meter (or a guaranteed ground throw). My eyes glaze over on multi-minute milia combos
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I will give this patch a name.

That name is "A Tragic Requiem - For A Battlefield taken by those who sicken even the worst demons"
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>>537224531
I said DONT look back, fgt
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when's nerville
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>>537219620
bedchads in a dominant position
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so like the bone structure for characters are mostly the same, so you can basically drag and drop animations from xrd with almost no issue. it's cool
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>Lucy's rekka overhead/crossup is safe on block
what kind of DLC privilege bullshit is this
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>>537222980
The sweep is -12, the dash itself is only -6 and frame traps
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>>537219620
>higher DR than all the tournament entrants because I stopped playing after hitting vanq
gawdlike
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JP STRIVE
https://www.twitch.tv/arcsystemworks
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>>537228084
Guest characters are infamously overpowered as a common courtesy
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>chipp ragequits after whiffing dp
astray fairy you are low trust society coded gtfo
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huh
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>>537228084
Who are you playing as; there's lots of ways to deal with it.
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>>537225092
I can believe in the path I'm on
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>>537228187
Well they said the low, the dash is a mid, only the sweep is a low.
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>>537228084
>fuzzy mash
>land air counter hit
>she fucking explodes
yes, very privileged
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>>537229986
>"fucking explodes"
>off a 6P
if that's happening your character is the problem in a different way
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>>537227280
Why did they get rid of her 6k? Also I wish strive had a training mode stage.
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>FD Goldlewis
>don't have meter for YRC
>don't FD Goldlewis
>die
the rumor of this lard ball's downfall were, very unfortunately, exaggerated
if he takes the first turn it's GGs and the changes won't help you
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This Milia character is bullshit, 1/2.
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>>537230997
Mirazh and Turbo Fall need to be shot, 2/2
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>>537230997
they should take away her time slowing move.
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>>537230971
Why did you let it happen
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>>537230945
i dunno but here is ky's cut 3H
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>>537230997
I 6P that
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what if you did the throw in the first one, and the button in the second one?
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>>537231470
isn't that basically just his 5D?
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>>537231695
In the first one I would have thrown you and in the second one (if I understand correctly) the button would go the wrong way assuming the same press timing.
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>>537231743
i thought it was his wild assault. but I guess he was supposed to step forward like his xrd 3h
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>>537217401
Please tell me there's millia art dacing in a costume banana
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I miss Tekken...
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Dizzy is a demon.
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>>537230651
I play venom. Delayed 5K takes 50% of her health.

Some characters can get c.S, I presume it needs to be high hitting because mine doesn't work.
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Did they say there was going to be a season 5, or is it nothing until 2.0 comes out? I forgot
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>>537233169
season 5 = basically 2.0
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>>537232917
Fucking why nigga? Tekken 8 was shit on release and got like 10% better until the literal April fools patch made it 500% worse.
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>>537233169
they said season 5 is cancelled because lucy didn't sell enough. strive is finally dead.
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>>537233461
I mean when it was good, also temu8 late s1 > temu7 s4
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I have 100 hours and the only combo I know is cS fS 5H 214K
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Ranked keeps forcing me to play a Bridget and I can't help remember something Hotashi said a while ago, about how Bridget is a character who absolutely shouldn't get any buffs because her turns take an eternity.
And I mean... Yeah, god fucking damn. If I don't have meter to YRC I'm stuck blocking for an eternity.
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>>537230997
i grabbed that
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grabbing millia's mirazh...
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>releasing strive 2 before everyone gets their new moves
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all the important chars got their new moves
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is sol and ky not important???
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>>537234183
With no more dlc characters and only 2 new characters for strive 2, my hope is that the animators will finally have time to add new moves for the whole cast.
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>>537233169
They said future content will depend on how sales look after 2.0
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>>537234429
nah nigga enjoy your new combo route for 2.0
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>>537233720
>when it was good
Oh you mean Tekken 5 dickhead. And NO t7 at any point and t8 s1 are equally shit.
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>>537224261
sex with that cat
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>>537234890
false
t6 and tag2 were also good
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gio sounds kinda good in english................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................
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>>537235314
yeah but then I have to listen to sol in english
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>>537235314
im throwing you
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>grind for 2 hours
>lose 500 points
well it seems the vanquisher dream is dead
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>>537235407
cutscene english Sol is fine, but HVV > kill and general gruff / normals are better from Joji
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>>537235314
English a.b.a and English I-no are good too but that'd mean I'd have also have to listen to English Axl, Potemkin, Sol, Slayer, Ram, May, Elphelt, and Johnny which is clearly not worth it.
>>537235214
False T5 last good Tekken game before Murray infected the series with t6's godawful newcomers and Lars and Alisa tier anime bullshit becoming commonplace and inevitably leading to Tekken 8's problems.
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>>537235752
yeah newcomers were bad after tekkino5 (except miguel)
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https://x.com/garagodayo/status/1961327587487371703
Is this real??
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This "Easy" Character Is Misunderstood
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>>537235981
soml
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>>537231470
Wish they didn't cut so many moves. Would love to see someone fix up this and Jacko's 6k animation just to see what it would be like. If you find more cut stuff please share, this is very interesting.

>>537233169
We are not getting season 5 or 2.0. Instead we are getting a sequel to the missing link.
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>>537235878
is this the new move he got...?
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what's abba's weakness
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>>537236493
her player
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>>537236493
me
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>>537235440
that's just part of the climb
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>>537235440
If it was easy would you like it?
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>>537236927
nta but yes!!!
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which one of you is sneedchungus
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I was a top player on my character on the old elo system. now I'm falling down every single day because I don't have time to grind with all the mandatory overtime I've had to do at the ceramic tile factory.
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shouldve went with the tiler craft instead
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vanquisher is shattering my ego
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>>537236293
>If you find more cut stuff please share, this is very interesting.
i found this unused 2h animation for zato that looks like his legacy one. may's dolphin also has an animation for her beach ball special, which suggests it was going to hit the ball instead of the manatee, but I can't get it to play in game.

desu there's not much interesting stuff to be found. most of it is just folders of reused xrd particle effects. the only things of note are the battle pass that was supposed to be for season 3, and banri, a code name for an unfinished new stage where you fight on Chinese rooftops.
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gio is shattering my balls
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>>537239661
did you cum?
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>>537239814
perhaps
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is it confirmed we are getting only 2 chars for 2.0?
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SA is so empty that over the last hour I just got farmed by a laggy Goldlewis all the way to Vanquisher, I think he only was at like 43k when the game started matching me with him exclusively
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sexual assault?
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For a general that hates strive you niggas never talk about xrd
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potemkin should have been shot in the fucking cranium
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i’ve played gio for hundreds of hours and i cant even make it to 22k points
its over
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suddenly wanna fuck lucy now bros
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>>537241453
go for it bro
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finna play millia
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>>537236493
it's easy-ish to control her options in normal mode if you have good mobility
thats it
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>>537235314
i love japanese gio because she also voices angel from kof
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>>537211560
Someone post the webm.......
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>>537246082
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>>537246610
FD -> she whiffs -> 5H combo -> oki on knd
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>>537246082
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Haven't touched this game since SF6 came out but I'm getting back into it now. Has Johnny been nerfed to shit yet?
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>>537248274
Yeah in the recent patch
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>>537248274
yeah he got hit with the hammer pretty hard
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Last time I played Johnny was shit, now I come back and he's shit
Did I miss an entire period where he was good?
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>>537248513
Yes.
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>>537248726
Thank god, I hate that motherfucker
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>>537248274
lucky you..............................
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>>537248962
Actually unlucky me I came back wanting to play both Johnny and Slayer and they both got nerfed.
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>>537249000
playing nerfed char >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> playing buffed char
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>>537249267
that seems backwards
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I miss top 3 nago
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>>537249923
only if you think winning is fun (kek)
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>>537250285
Nago got buffed this patch
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I fucking love Millia's fat arse, bruv.
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Low tier players are honorable, sexy, and most importantly superior to high tier players.
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>>537250285
I miss nago 6H OTG oki. I don't care if it was busted it felt fun as fuck to do.
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https://youtu.be/QX5M-qV9zNA
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how long until Katano comeback from his grave and personally nerfs Millia?
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>>537228851
They should add back the frc at the end he has in acr
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*dashes*
*throws*
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>>537253182
AAAAAAAAAAAAA THIS NEEDS TO BE NERFED ITS SO BROKEN AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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wake up throw
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>>537253182
>opponent does 2P 66 c.S
>their setup is so laggy that my button to stuff the dash after c.S gets counterhit
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I am literally incapable of learning
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I feel like I have to work harder to win with my character.
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played against some Faust tranny, he abused me with his knowledge checks for a game, I adapted a bit, but still lost the second, and for the third game, oh wait, it didn't happen because I am not allowed to learn the game while playing it
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>>537255520
unless you play Venom this is objectively false
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>>537255751
I do play Venom actually.
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>>537255974
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I despise this asuka faggot, how do I beat him
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>>537256496
6P
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>>537233169
It's nothing until 2.0 sometime in 2026 (that will EoS Strive as all hands are put on Tokon)
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>>537256496
If you lose to Asuka you were simply outplayed.
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>>537257243
asukas players are lucky I am too lazy to learn this game.........................
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Anons of /ggg/ I need your help. I can't fill the RISC bar in one of the mission, what kind of attack/combo to fill it?
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>>537257694
it's a small bar, below your burst meter, I think you fill it by just mashing on your opponent, works on block too
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>>537257694
run up close and press the slash button, then run up and do it again
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give me one reason online should be ft2
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>>537258771
favors the dev designated top tiers
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>>537258771
give me one reason anyone should play soive in the first place, since you can admit your game is a luck based scrub game with random mashing into huge rewards so it should be ft3 instead of ft2
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>>537258975
You're not good enough to even experience the randomness.
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>>537259040
i'm higher rank than you probably, since i'm top 200 in the world
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>>537258975
it has Gio
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>>537258176
>>537258369
Well alright let's try this out then, thank you!
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it's weird to me that people recommend sf6 before strive as a beginner fighting game, imo strive is basically perfect as a beginner fighter
>high damage enables beginners to sometimes score lucky wins and stay motivated
>doesn't have huge obnoxious skill gate execution checks like "you need to be able to consistently AA DP and crosscut and PP certain abusable moves if you want to play fundies"
>a shitload of mechanics that help keep you from getting mauled forever in the corner
>fun, flashy, fairly distinct toolkits
>no siren song of modern to trick you into thinking the game is easy and accessible and you can hop right in now (your lack of knowledge is a genuinely incomprehensible void)
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>>537259138
and the remaining 199 players are everyone from /ggg/.......
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>>537258771
they’ve announced other fixes for online but we still need ft3 in vanquisher, ft2 for lower ranks.
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>>537259197
gio sexo
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>>537259380
strive is the only game designed to be welcoming to fighting game newbies that actually succeeds at it
auto combos are not a solution and every game with them are not worth even considering
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>>537259380
dealing with offense in this game is such a pain for a new player, and it's so fast paced it's hard to keep track of everything
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it's so much easier to win when you learn a decent combo and wallbreak with a super into a safe jump holy fuark.....................................
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>>537259649
it gets even easier when you learn to block. the offense in this game is retarded, so you are forced to block for extended periods of time, but if you are patient it will take you a long way
i don't see how anyone can defend this game over Rev2 or +R. in those games yes offense is even crazier, but defense is actually a thing so you are never forced to block more than a couple of seconds if you know what you're doing
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>>537259526
>dealing with offense in this game is such a pain for a new player
compared to SF6 it's literally nothing. yeah you have mix characters with difficult to discern mash/reset points but once you have that knowledge it's not that big of a deal. SF6's RPS and decisionmaking in the corner is a fucking nightmare, even outside of the throw loop 50/50s understanding when to press and with what is so god damn deep compared to "guess on the reset and get out or die or spend resources to get out much more easily"
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>>537259897
yeah I can block kinda, but when people go for pressure resets I crumble and can't interrupt, always eat a CH instead
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>>537260081
I think a good way to put it is sf6 offense is very binary, you can only make informed decisions so much before it starts being pure guesswork. For strive there’s stuff and MUs to learn all the way to the top before you reach “lmao just guess” area
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>>537259897
>i don't see how anyone can defend this game over Rev2 or +R
It's fun to play, it's not that deep dog. Those games aren't enjoyable to engage with
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>>537259897
Simplest and most truth nuke answer is that dash macro is such a good feature that it makes it harder to go back to games without it. I would be on Xrd often but I can’t go back after 4 damn years of it in Strive.
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>>537260338
>Those games aren't enjoyable to engage with
:skullemoji:
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>>537260459
dash macro is one of the biggest modernization changes it might as well be revolutionary
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>>537260338
>Those games aren't enjoyable to engage with
to each their own, i can have fun in Strive, but the nature of the game infuriates me more often than not, losses don't feel deserved, my opponent just out gorilla'd me. if i lose in Xrd on the other hand i rarely feel anger, because most of the time my opponent actually outplayed me in a clever and skillful way.
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>>537260665
Yeah
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>>537260720
I think you might have some bias if you assume all your losses in Strive are undeserved while your losses in Xrd are genuine. Have you read any Sirlin? He's not super polite about it but it might help you out.
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Strive is just pachinko with pretty graphics
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>>537261073
it's not bias, it's the nature of the games. Ishiwatari himself made the analogy of old GG being like shogi, and Strive being like mahjong. Strive rewards making good "reads" (guessing correctly), Xrd rewards playing safe and solid.
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>>537262320
i would school you at mahjong b
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>>537262142
Just like SF6 but that game has ugly graphics
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>>537262320
All competitive games have a certain measure of randomness, yet people are still able to maintain consistent success in "luck-based" games like poker. Do you really think your losses are all due to probability or are you excusing yourself from self-reflection because of something a random guy said? Just something to think about.
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>>537262532
yeah, sf6 is pretty bad too, when will they make a good fighting game again?
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>>537263001
CotW exists
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i like that venom says carcass raid like carca slide
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>>537259380
SF6 has modern controls and every character plays the same and it's a lot slower than Strive all of which makes it way, way easier for beginners to get into.
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>>537263001
Apparently Tekken8 also has a lot of coin flipping? But yeah I don't expect 2XKO or Marvel Tokon to be much better.
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>>537263086
true, shame no one plays snkino
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>>537263195
the assist and tag kuso are going to be WAY more coin toss and scramble centric than strive
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>>537262705
>random guy
the creator of guilty gear and lead developer
of course it's not probability, i'm not absolving myself of the mistakes i made when i lose. my issue is that the degree of punishment i take as a result of that mistake makes the game, as people say, volatile. volatile is just another way of saying the game heavily rewards guessing correctly. and losing to someone guessing correctly a couple of times is infuriating for me. that's it. that's all i'm saying.
i compare to Xrd because people can make reads in that game, but it doesn't decide the round, there are more interactions per round. and beyond this simplistic reduction of the gameplay, making reads in that game is a more cerebral process due to major differences in the frame data and the way neutral plays out (movement differences, stage size, camera zoom, average size of hitboxes, etc.)
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>>537263195
yeah, I quit temu8, tried strive and this game is even worse desu, but I don't want to support these retarded faggots at bamco so I just play different games from time to time instead
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>>537262705
>random guy
holy kek.................................
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>>537263196
snkusoge
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>>537263889
hmmmmmm something tells me your uncle touched you when you were 7 and he was a Kyo main
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>>537264116
5 second backshots
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>>537263637
I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree. It seems plain as day to me that you're offloading responsibility for your losses by pointing the finger at volatility but if it really does bother you that much like you're doing you can just play a different game.
All I'm gonna say is instead of posting "this game is so random!" consider that when you blame the game instead of examing yourself you're embracing the scrub mentality whole hog.
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>>537264116
heh
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>>537264116
oops didnt clip the game
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>>537264116
time to zip over to /zzz/ to see who those tits are
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add fuarking replay takeover you faggots your game isn't engaging for me to lab on my own...........
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>>537264116
>ZZZ
This is why you're only platinum.
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>>537263145
I always assumed that slower games would be easier/ more beginner friendly. After trying sf6 I don't think that's the case at all.

Yes, you sometimes have more time to see what your opponent is doing. However your own your movement is slower and actions feel like a big commitment. It leads to situations where, even if you can react to your opponent, there's still nothing you can do about it. It's a kind of frustration I never really experienced with anime games
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>>537264559
I started in Gold 1 THOUGH
>>537264361
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>>537264751
yeah those guys got me back fast. thanks
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>>537261073
NTA but he's the scrub mentality guy, right? hate that guy. The end result of that school of thinking is literally "if you can cheat and get away with it, do it." from a competitor's standpoint you have to control what you can control and accept what's in front of you but I've seen so many people abuse some shit that nobody likes to play around and just plain isn't healthy for the game and say "um well scrub mentality bro, you should just accept everything and not want the game to change even though my rifle is handily better than everything else in the game"
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>>537264308
last response. if it wasn't clear. i am not blaming the game for my losses. i realize when i make mistakes and i could have done something differently.
i'm saying i don't like how punishing those mistakes are. it makes losing feel undeserved, and i'm not wrong for feeling that way. in many cases the win is absolutely not deserved, but that is the way the game was meant to be. that is what the developers had in mind when they made the decisions they did.
the only good thing you've said in response to this is "you can just play a different game.", but i can still have some fun despite the frustrations i have with it, so i'll keep playing (alongside other games too, i'm not restricted to just one)
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>>537261073
>>537262705
nta, I agree with that other anon, though is not that all wins / loses are undeserved on Strive, but most matches do feel like that; any "random" hit can lead to 1/3 or even 1/2 of your HP with very little execution barrier, pressure isn't hard to do either, everything is just a very pre-canned guessing game without much nuance, there's almost no execution hurdles to playing your char in neutral, offense or defense, and certainly almost none in combos either.

And sure, you can say "yeah but on every game you have to guess" and that's true, but in all the other GG games is really hard to make someone guess if you aren't good at your char, there's a heavy degree of skill having a way bigger impact over luck, someone making / gambling a correct read twice or thrice on you on the other games won't make them win, because the games' execution are heavy even for mid level combos, and they need to keep that execution going even during pressure and neutral, people have to work hard for their victories on those games.

There's a lot, and I mean, a huge lot to the other games that Strive doesn't have, Strive funnels you into forced neutral interactions and guess-for-your-life situations even out of the most basic 50/50 oki.
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I am none of you guys, and I have to say if you think the gameplay flow of "block thing, guess, land thing, guess, repeat 100 times" sounds anything but boring to you then I will probably insult you
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>>537265237
Yes, Sirlin is the scrub mentality guy. His approach to morality in a competitive space might be off-putting at first, but his larger point is that if you're going to engage in a game with the intent to win arbitrarily confining yourself to your opponent's expectations is antithical to respecting your opponent and the game itself.

>>537265267
Well I hope you have fun I suppose, and maybe you can reflect a little on your mindset and try and understand what I'm talking about.

>>537265303
Strive is a high damage game for sure. I don't play other GG games so I can't comment on those, but the other anon I was talking to was saying that Strive is at fault when he loses because it's high damage is wrong. There's players who place top 8 consistently despite purported high variance. What I'm saying has nothing to do with execution barriers or neutral or anything to do with older games. What I'm saying is that if your first instinct when you get hit is "Oh, Strive, this shit is so random!" instead of "Well shit I guess I should've probably not pressed there" you're doing yourself a disservice as an opportunity for growth.
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>>537265998
Counterpoint: Leffen won Evo thanks to Strive
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>>537266590
thanks to Happy Chaos***
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>>537265998
I don't really feel that ultimate optimization should be the goal of competition. Ultimately you get involved in competition in the first place because you like playing the game, I don't think breaking it over your knee and contorting it into something people don't like to play anymore is doing the game or your opponent a service- it should be allowed to be addressed if the playerbase wants it. I actually take this belief to a far larger scale but that's neither here or there.
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>>537259380
street fighter evo finalist says the strive is the best modern fighter
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>>537266776
A Guilty Gear Strive character
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Can someone please inform ASW that Venom's 2S does not need to startup that slow?
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>>537266920
The bad part of constant patching is people starting to get political over patches, though, actively conspiring to get things they don't like nerfed or removed from the game- for the sake of their competitive career, in the case of pro players.

Honestly though I consider that pretty much the same as total optimization. You're doing everything you can to win. If you EARNESTLY feel something is unhealthy for the game, that's one thing. If you feel something is unhealthy to your chances of winning and that's why you're advocating for its removal that is borderline cheating
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I really hate when my enemy has long range 2S low
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>main has a long range 2S mid
phew
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For strive 2.0 they should make YRC cost 25 tension
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>>537266920
>I don't really feel that ultimate optimization should be the goal of competition.
$1,000,000 prize doesn't care about your feelings
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>>537267965
also a reason for why increasingly large prize pools for competing are ass
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>>537267896
More system mechanic buffs for happy chaos
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>>537267383
>Johnny
Long range 2S that hits low, 11f startup.
>Testament
Medium range 2S that hits low, 10f startup.
>Venom
Medium range 2S that hits mid, 12f startup.
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>>537268018
for 2.0 they should make it so he drops his gun and has to pick it every round, but the gun is in a different stage
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>>537268124
is teste's 2S that long?
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5 million latency Raven player leave my lobby
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>>537268124
>6f active
>16f recovery
Good ol' mid. Nothing beats that
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>>537268385
these are both 10f lows
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>>537268407
wdym strive doesn't have raven!
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>>537268656
yeah but Leo's is -2 and low profiles shit
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>>537268735
leo also wins the game if he throws you
faggot shouldn't have a low 2s
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>>537268829
venom wins whenever he depletes your health bar tho
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>>537264116
Jarvis, zoom into the profile picture in the upper right and enhance.
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>>537265998
>I don't play other GG games so I can't comment on those
It shows, go play them and come back; at least go and watch some high level tourneys when you get the chance.
>the other anon I was talking to was saying that Strive is at fault when he loses because it's high damage is wrong
It's not entirely wrong, you only have a very limited set of interactions per round on Strive and it mostly is due to the high damage combined with the easy execution; even your mid-to-high level player will take rounds / games out of a stronger player thanks to this.
>There's players who place top 8 consistently despite purported high variance.
There's players who also dropped from being top 8 contestants due to their chars getting nerfed (ex: Hotashi), while many current players who place top 8 consistently play the patch strongest chars; those players also dedicate their life to playing competitively, they'll be better than most despite the explosiveness of the game.
>What I'm saying is that if your first instinct when you get hit is "Oh, Strive, this shit is so random!" instead of "Well shit I guess I should've probably not pressed there"
Is not being claimed at being random, it's claimed as being volatile. The issue is not on getting hit by a random move, but rather on dying because of getting hit by one once or twice.
Even if you understand that you made a wrong read, you can also understand that it can be frustrating that a single mistake can make you go from winning the game from nearly half HP to losing without having much of a chance to interact back, if you even get one, is hard to make a true separation from skill and luck when all it takes is 1 or 2 button presses to decide the game.
The same can be said from the side of winning, you can hit someone with 2 or 3 mix-ups and take the round, without much effort of your own, is easy for it to feel undeserved, there's no much chance for growth when the game barely lasts enough to take anything meaningful from it.
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>>537268829
you shouldn't see it as a "low 2s" but rather a more applicable complimentary mini cS, that -2 with the threat of extensions allow him to essentially push a strike throw game or a pressure reset, this is further complimented by his gattling options, if you're feeling brave enough you can cheese a mixup by doing fS>6H>2S in neutral and boom you got in off of a fS, it's a fantastic normal for pressure, not the best neutral normal tho
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>>537269461
>daigo_2D.webm
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>>537269993
this is literally psyop
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>>537269461
>It shows, go play them and come back; at least go and watch some high level tourneys when you get the chance.
Why? Watching a game I don't know anything about isn't going to affect my opinion on the game I do play and enjoy.
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how can i make this about faust?
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>>537271631
simply hold up your spork
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>>537271631
something something 21f reversal something something flung into the corner with 5HH’s guaranteed burst point
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aba is kind of like goldlewis for waifufags and trannies
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>>537271631
Faust is pachinko personified
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>>537264116
I’m glad we finally have THICK thick bitches in anime games. ZZZ and Strive girls have thigh jiggle physics and asses busting out of their outfits.
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>>537271631
I still don't understand how people think Faust being able to teleport to me instantly and throw me for meter is fair
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how can i make this about gio being sexo?
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>>537272460
you can jab him out of it if you know it's coming but you have to time that shit right
pot's hammerfall into prc buster is even more of a robbery
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>>537273479
>you can jab him out of it if you know it's coming but you have to time that shit right
yeah let me just read the mind of a faust plyaer OH WAIT THEY DON'T HAVE ONE
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>>537273456
Based giobro
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>>537272460
Scarecrow PRC is in a vacuum the best neutral skip in the game that is limited by Faust’s horrendous damage, it is a necessary part of everything in his kit to function. You can throw it (most consistent counterplay) and preemptive buttons (riskier) will also beat it.
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Why haven't you joined the tournament yet anon? There's only a day left ya know?
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>>537271401
>Why?
Because your view is clearly biased, you don't want to accept that Strive is a coinflip game because is the only game out of the series that you have played, or apparently, even watched, so you will defend its flaws because you have no other point of reference.
Watching how the other games play out Is going to give you perspective, see how many interactions happen, how many things they do per round and match, see what they have to do to even get there.
You will understand, at least on a surface level, why people feel like win and loses can feel undeserved on Strive and why they feel deserved on the other games.
You also already know some things about the other games, you know the characters on Strive, they're the same chars on the other games, at least on a basic idea, so you can see what they were like before, and you hopefully know basic fighting game fundamentals so you should still be able to understand more or less what's going on.
Or... you can also just go blindly on your way preaching about mentality and how Strive is a perfectly fine game without even knowing what the other games people come from and it's compared to looked like.
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Strive is mid lets be real
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>>537256496
Hitting his cubes can invalidate 90% of Asuka players since they expect people to just sit there and block, even Gobou got screwed over by people that knew about hitting the cubes and finding gaps in his pressure from there
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>>537274507
Yes but mid is better than every other modern fg so I'll take what I can get.
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>>537274549
tough life for us fg'ers
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>>537274290
But "watching how the other games play out" isn't going to change my thesis that blaming Strive for being random is incorrect. Or rather, that it's a self-defeating attitude. It doesn't matter if someone dies in five or seven or twenty touches in Xrd, that doesn't change the fact that there's something you could have (and a better player would have) done to change your fate. The other games having the same basic characters and Strive don't matter, and pretending that Strive's standing as a game will wildly shift if you watch Xrd replays is silly.
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>>537274080
I hate Hollow K***ht
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>>537274080
I'm not joining a M*lliatard tournament.
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>>537274507
I enjoy it and that's what matters
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>>537274080
the ping is going to be dismal probably
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i like soive but I feel like I need a lively playerbase to get into a fighting game. If a new GG was a little more like xrd I'd welcome it (please have dash macro though double tapping anything for movement feels bad regardless of genre)
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>>537272460
>>537273479
>>537273787
>*just lets S Scarecrow loose like a boss*
what now, chud?
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>>537275426
This would be fun if s crow gave combos on hit but it doesn’t
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>>537274080
i'm ass
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>>537274080
i don't join s*ive tournaments, might as well join a slot machine tournament
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>>537276362
>>537275402
who cares retards
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>>537276606
erm, the guy who is going to play me...?
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>>537274080
travelling
if im home in time I'll join
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>>537276362
I want your ass
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https://youtu.be/YggnYuOaofg
its so fucking over
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>>537277297
not enough bullying at locals
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>>537277297
Great video. Hopefully the chuds will watch this and educate themselves.
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Millia is a character that by design needs to be bottom tier. If you are a character that has 4 way mix on HKD, you need to fight an uphill battle for it to be fair.
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tranny game
tranny general
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>>537277297
educational video, didn't know the FGC had so many school shooters
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>>537277842
She doesn't have 4way mix thougbeit
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trans people are just naturally good at fighting games cause they've been fighting their whole life
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>>537274824
>my thesis that blaming Strive for being random is incorrect. Or rather, that it's a self-defeating attitude
It was blamed of being volatile, not random.
It's true that it's volatile and you won't deny it, it's not self-defeating to announce a fact.
>It doesn't matter if someone dies in five or seven or twenty touches in Xrd, that doesn't change the fact that there's something you could have done to change your fate.
Unless you're purely enclosing the decision in a vacuum of getting hit vs not getting hit, then it's entirely wrong; the amount of interactions means that you have to make more correct decisions per match, you can only get lucky so many times vs someone who can generally outplay you.
This isn't true when the decisions are few, you need to gamble less times to be lucky enough to win, better player or not, but (You) have no way to understand this currently.
>Characters
Only mentioned because you said didn't know anything, when in fact you do have a frame of reference if you were to watch the older games.
>pretending that Strive's standing as a game will wildly shift if you watch Xrd replays is silly.
I didn't say that, said you would have a different perspective and would be able to understand where people are coming from when they say "Strive is X and Y".
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xrd lobbies are so trash. how do people even deal with the subhumans in there
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>>537277297
Genuinely what are the arguments in this video? I'm really curious but with a title and thumbnail like that I just refuse to watch it
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>>537278942
>It's true that it's volatile and you won't deny it, it's not self-defeating to announce a fact.
Strive is high damage, but there's no point in blaming a high damage game for being "random" when you can still outplay other players in it. Pretending otherwise is just blaming the game, IE scrub mentality.
>Unless you're purely enclosing the decision in a vacuum of getting hit vs not getting hit, then it's entirely wrong; the amount of interactions means that you have to make more correct decisions per match, you can only get lucky so many times vs someone who can generally outplay you.
I don't know why you keep trying to manipulate this into a Strive vs Xrd thing. That literally doesn't matter for the purpose of this conversation, it's totally irrelevant.
>This isn't true when the decisions are few, you need to gamble less times to be lucky enough to win, better player or not, but (You) have no way to understand this currently.
If you don't believe in my skill or ability why are we even having this conversation?
>I didn't say that, said you would have a different perspective and would be able to understand where people are coming from when they say "Strive is X and Y".
If that perspective is that "Strive is random game! There's nothing that can be done when I lose!" then that perspective is useless, plain and simple.
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>>537278505
ok then what do you call the high/low left/right mix she does after H Disc?
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>>537279489
we call this a fuzzy practice
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>>537279489
It's a 50/50 based on the left right and a reactable/fuzziable secondary mixed based on high low afterwards.
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>>537277842
jack-o bros, nobody tell him
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>>537280167
too bad she can land into a throw while I fuzzy her 4 way
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>play 4th match ever
>win a round for the first time in my life
>opponent disconnects
fun game
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As a gnc male myself the whole "Bridget being trans erases tomgirls" thing is stupid it gives the same vibes as when people say that lesbians are disappearing because they keep transitioning
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why is this tranny talking about tranny shit
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Lobby?
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>>537281685
Shut up faggot. No one cares.
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Bridget is actually the reason I came out. Was playing ggst w my dad, and I was like “Yknow she’s trans right?” “Nah.” “Yeah I’m trans too.” “Cool.” Now, I’m beginning my first month on estrogen. W Brisket moment
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>>537281685
So true sister
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guilty transgenders general
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>>537279382
Not sure why you keep mentioning randomness, it was never the main point of any of the arguments, but you're right at one thing though, you're clearly unfit for this conversation.
I'm off to play, have a nice day.
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Remember when big body grapplers had to work their way in
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100% of guilty gear players become trans the trick is to stop playing right at the precipice of when you want to cut something vital off
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>>537283236
yeah I remember not playing guilty gear
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am i doing something wrong or is venom oki mix somewhat inconsistent
also feels like half of his shit stops working if opponent knows how to fd
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>>537283236
erm hammerfall was made 5% shorter
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>GET ROASTED xD
i hate that sin is such a zoomer
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>>537284183
Your fault for playing the English dub
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>>537284293
I turned it on for like two minutes and my ears got assaulted with memes and political commentary.
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>>537283438
my friend plays venom and his oki shmixups always work unforunately
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Unika's thighsYAJJT
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2 players in a row rage quit.
Also I've only seen may players put down the controller now, wonder what it is
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>>537280878
she cant grab you on normal hkd disk
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I'm so glad Sin got nerfed and I switched to Sol. He plays so much cooler.
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>>537286236
its literally impossible to be impossible
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>>537286147
i picked up venom and placed way lower than i should have
i don't know if it's just these lower ranks or if it's getting styled on by venom, but i'm getting a ton of ragequits and controller droppers
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Is there a version, through mods or something, of uploaded combos but for defense?
I know my character enough to wing it and do something close enough to optimal every patch or off stray conversion, I don't need combo trials, I need defense trials
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Bros, what should I do if I want to know what's treasures?
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>>537288402
you have to lab them
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>>537289161
you need a suitcase
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>>537270351
>Top tier has top tier normals
THIS IS A PSYOP
I'll never understand you people >>537279267
20 dollars says this anon was subjugated to ratanuki
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I have never seen a venom player do anything cool with his setups
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>>537289609
>2s.. isnt 2s... its actually cS..................
they do this to make us stupid and play Sol
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>>537281685
chris chan is the only person in the world who says tomgirl unironically
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I play an honorable Happy Chaos :)
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>>537289942
so you don't use his h button
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>>537286473
yeah gold has been full of controller droppers for some reason, I get playing vs pot is annoying but they are giving up way too easy
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>>537289745
venom doesn't have anything cool
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>>537289304
I'd like to. It'd be neat if there was a feature that helped.
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>>537289745
WDYM BRO HE GOT EPIC THINGS LIKE an overhead OR a low MIXUP
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>>537289745
YOU DONT POG YOURSELF WHEN HE DOES dark angel for 50 meter AND GOES INTO tap dust ????????????????????????????????? HES PLUS OB AFTER THAT YOU KNOW !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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>>537286473
>styled on
i had people go afk after getting hit by stinger 3 times in a row
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>>537289486
Nice, I already have a big suitcase laying around.
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I love how you can still just DP OS Fuujin and it will cleanly beat everything but them just giving up all their options to be extremely minus
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Honestly, tacked-on Robo Ky and the Reddit face balls make Venom so uncool.
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they could give potemkin buster a bit less range honestly
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>>537289745
blackhole super sucks ball back :)
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have you seen his xrd design
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>>537292529
He needs it
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>>537292414
>tacked-on Robo Ky
Very weird choice given that they're adding him as a separate character. They didn't even do anything cool with him. Robo-Ky can be just a head and they didn't let Venom bounce him around like a ball?
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Whoever said Johnny is slower and not top tier this patch is legit lying, his dash is the same
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never ending war
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>>537293041
The notes said shorter not slower, bro
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UMISHO is Guilty Gear. Without her, none of us would be here.
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>>537293226
That's my UMIGOAT
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freaks dont know how to contribute
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Tyrant... Barrel? BARRLES??? Did... did ArcSys just reference friggin Pewdiepie?! This is a bro fist moment...
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I'm 90% sure the top 5 is the exact same as last patch with Leo being the only """""maybe""""" choice there
HC, Johnny and Pot are still as fucking absurd as last patch
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soul.
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>>537294016
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https://youtu.be/lnGfBGxtmNQ
is this sol stupid? why doesnt he punch the cubes
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Bait aint what it used to be ….
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>>537294323
Uh bro did you forget about gorillia's 10 way mix?
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>>537294563
Projectiles are BULLSHIT
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>>537294690
heh thats MY hero
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Should I go back to playing May, Bridget or should I learn Bedman? can't decide...
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>>537294563
this is before they nerfed him and cubes would win way more or trade into full combo
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>>537295021
lol///
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Like there is a huge Bedman doc, is there like, a Slayer doc that says which of his shit is real and which is fake and throwable?
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>>537295004
try bed, spamming nail and recall nail is pretty fun
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>>537295121
Anon...
He really does get to teleport around after a knockdown for random ass crossups on your wakeup, those are unironically legit
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unika players live and die by this hitbox
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>>537295004
Anyone but Bridget. Hate fighting that faggot...dyke....whatever it is, don't need more of it
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godlike update
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>>537295121
we have mission mode
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>>537295465
Call me when it's GAWDlike
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>>537295435
It's a good thing nobody good plays her
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>>537295465
the patch that made gio viable
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despite being 100x more complex temu8 had better edu content than soive
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For the love of god change fuujin from reaching tip range before the move being active it's quite literally the only sub 20f forward momentum move that does this
All it does is make the move look way jankier than it should be and allow people to somehow grab it from 4 backdashes away
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>>537295021
The only change to cubes was removing Bit Shift Metron 5
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STOP SCREAMING AT ME YOU FUCKING SLUT I'M ALREADY TILTED FROM YOUR GAY ASS FUCKING UNREACTABLE MIXUPS SHUT THE FUCK UPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPP
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>>537296960
why lie
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>>537295121
>bedman doc
damn, what did he do
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i miss the ram furfag...
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>>537297062
I'm glad I'm not the only one that wants to punch a hole in my monitor when I get shmixed to death by Elphelt and then she screams right in my ear.
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>>537297137
what else
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>>537297062
ATO ATO ATO BLAAAAAAM
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>>537296896
Anji is never getting fixed, he still has beta ass weird gimmicks like kou being the only non grab move to be hardcoded to never work on grounded opponents.
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FUCK POT NIGGERS AND THEIR AEGIS RFLECTOR HOLY SHIT CARRIED
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HC's mumblings somehow sound like they were recorded in a 5 dollar knockoff chinese mic and also slightly louder than the rest
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buff ibs ffs
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>Literally never taken my hand off of 1 during the whole blockstring
>Got hit by a low after blocking two hits
????
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>>537299041
Replay
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>>537298851
It's pretty funny that GG's voice cast are all these famous names like Norio Wakamoto, Tomokazu Sugita and Takahito Koyasu but HC's VA is an almost complete unknown that's only really done bit parts aside from this.
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>>537299041
were you holding FD too?
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A question, I've seen people manage to get out of combos when they are blocking, I know it depends on the speed of the attack you do, but how do I know, at least with Elphet, at what moment I can do the attack, or how I could start a combo?
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>>537299789
It has also happened to me, that even if I block an attack, it can break my defense, why does that happen?
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hello, i havent been here since bedman
does anyone have that gif of ky running across multiple stages just to grab sol
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>>537299381
Looking at it most of the guilty gear voice actors are old as fuck. It makes me wonder if whenever they do a new GG game it'll be a complete reset.
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one fucking week without frame data bar. When will that fucking troon update it instead of wasting time with dumb shit no one cares about like sonic racing shaders and fanmade patches?
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>>537300248
I mean Slayer just died
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people who quit after 1:1 I hope you get raped
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>>537300476
got my points back :)
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>>537299789
elphelt has some specific answers to her shit, like her rekka which can be 6p'd unless she starts it off with 5h or 6h. there are youtube videos that teach you about it
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>>537300476
hold that shit bitch
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>>537300476
>lose
>get my refund
>leave
Simple as
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>>537296896
>>537298276
The bug where his fireball literally disappears is STILL in
To be fair it's such a useless projectile I have no idea why you would ever use it anyways but it's funny where the bug that deletes your projectile that they claimed to have fixed still exist in the same capacity and can be triggered through the same methods for him
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man does pot carry that much or something, just played one that literally couldn't block in wake up in gold ranks
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>>537294323
Pot is significantly stronger than either of those other two
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>>537301250
>in gold ranks
Lmao
Hahaha
HEHEHE
You will never get away from the carried Potfags that don't even know how to block anon, I'm serious
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>>537295256
I'll give it a go!
>>537295438
Hehe, well, Bridget is my highest lvl char but honestly I don't find this Buri as fun as +R one.
I'll try to become bed for now.
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>>537301341
Even if this was somehow true (HC is as strong as Pot) it doesn't matter because they're still the strongest characters in the game by far
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>>537301250
pot has enough health and deals enough damage to get away with making mistakes or doing dumb bullshit
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does anyone have the mayTO vods? i wanna relive the glory days
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So uh, let's say HC made you block 5k or something, is there any way to get out of the 5k > 6k > shot loop
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>>537301874
I actually searched for this like 2 hours ago kek but I only found newbros twitch account
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1153373972
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>>537301990
pretty sure 5K 6K isn't a true string you can definitely throw or reversal it
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>>537301250
this is insane, I played pot and he was doing the exact same shit the previous one was, literally 1:1 playstyle
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>>537302074
>asphaltmonster
Does anyone still have the webm
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why do his transgender forward gender buster have armor
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>>537301032
You use it for sick comboz (I'm pretty sure this is optimal)
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>>537302918
>asphaltmonster
no... don't do this again some people just came back...
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getting stuck in diamond bros... i'm not even built for the baby game
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I need to see Dizzy take a fat shit, man. The kind that stretches her anus wide and is completely dense.
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>>537302074
>last live 4 years ago
Holy FUCK has it really been that long?
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>>537297062
Leave her alone
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>>537303383
dude I am stuck in gold
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>>537300571
Could you send me a link?
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zato has always been the most interesting character to me and I've always avoided him because he looks too difficult
getting back into the game, should I do it? is he really that difficult or is it all entirely approachable?
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>>537304386
he's just a little different to control than everyone else. need to get the muscle memory down for negative edge. he's not actually difficult to play beyond that.
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>>537303337
i hope he's doing well.....
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>>537304386
The character literally has dedicated buttons and specials to ignore projectiles and any normals thrown his way
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>>537301874
Don't tell anyone I told you this but it's GBSVRTO now
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>>537305021
yea nigga so does everyone else its called block
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fg's fell off when fg devs thought they are game designers
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Kizzie agrees
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>>537304386
he's difficult for strive standards but he's not so bad
the reward for playing him is that there's always something to improve with him and you get to play zato
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>>537305261
2xko will save fgs since they're fg players :)
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>>537304076
look up hotashi's videos on her
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>>537305745
I'm more than ready to play 2xko when it launches just to laugh at how retarded it is
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The old vacuum staff>arpeggio never gets old.
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>>537305787
>thanks!
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>>537305136
do you have a link
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The good ol days
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fEYKQRgjnhk
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i can't stop ragequitting
my ego can't accept the fact that i cannot get enough internet points to justify haven't spent 4k hours in the game
what do?
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>>537307868
End your life you goddamn pussy
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>>537307868
ft10 me faggot
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>>537307446
you can go into the granblue general and find it probably.
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Which are the minimus requirement for the lowest spec potato mod on strive?
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>>537308484
maybe like a 1050?
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>>537307868
i did it again
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>>537307446
https://www.youtube.com/@grumblebumble69
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>>537307868
Same, I remember, when I played tekken a lot, I learned to stop being a raging faggot, but it's been so long I unlearned it and it's such a pain.
Some things I remember is to not think of your opponent in a negative light (like he's a total fag for doing something) and commending him for playing well instead, have a learner mind set instead of chasing wins, and whenever you rage you realize it's retarded, thinks it's retarded, and stop. These things unironically helped me a year ago, but it took some time.
Anyway, there's a lot of educational content on youtube about it, you should look it up.
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>>537308929
wow...fuck him
i thought we had something special going on but ok i guess not
fuck you and rot in that shit dead game that doesnt even peak at 1k players anymore FAGGOT
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>>537309169
better than soive btw
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>>537309034
i had that mindset. When i was a fucking noob 4 years ago. Now that i have thousands of hours i have developed a huge ego and i cannot accept that i'm not as good as i should, i feel entitled to be good for the insane amount of hours i put in the game, for how much i left this game obsess me and unironically negatively affect every other aspect of my life cause i played it too much. I DEMAND TO BE GOOD I DESERVE IT, DESTINY SHOULD APPEASE ME
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>>537309296
66Ls this post
you know i paid full price for the original gbvs with 8 char roster and delay netcode in 2020 but never even looked at rising
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>>537301874
Some time ago GolshiTO announced Twitch would be doing some retarded shit and he would lose his Granblue VODs (that weren't even 1 year old), so he had to start co-streaming on Youtube and uploading the VODs there. I imagine that, unless he saved the VODs for some reason, they are gone.
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>>537309309
well, you aren't entitled to anything in this life, you can do something for even longer and still suck at it, if you lose there's something to improve upon, all you can do is accept what you have and work on your ego (and gameplay, hehe).
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>>537309309
it doesnt matter if you didnt put those hours in correctly you retard, did you ever join a tourney or try learning from replays?
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>>537301874
wait nevermind
https://www.twitch.tv/throwawayggg/videos?filter=all&sort=time
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>>537310307
Watching myself play 4 years later is cool, imagine not joining 4chan tourneys because you're scared
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Jack has finally been defeated. What happened to Ram's nerfs?
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>>537310915
They made Ram players stronger.
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Clash Royale is more skill based than fighting games.
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Never listen to a Milliafraud.
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>>537310915
Millia vs Slayer’s cS hitbox MU
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>>537311552
bottom 1 downplay posts for decades while they were farming easy wins online all along...
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>>537311905
she was in actuality an upper mid tier last patch and she got massive buffs so now she's top tier
her playerbase is really really awful too
they don't really know any matchups at all
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>>537309824
i don't even know what to work on. My combos and mixups are PRISTINE, i have the most optimal stuff, even pros don't do what i do. Sometimes i steam roll vanquish players sometimes i lose 0-20. There is no fucking consistency.
One thing i can't do tho is remember matchups in details, all those micro interactions are a bit too much for me to remember. But you hear people at high level telling they don't even lab matchups and you don't need them to reach vanquish, that's stuff is for the sweatiest of tournaments. I even asked them and they don't even lab as much as me so wtf
>>537309948
no and yes
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>>537308587
I have a laptop anon...
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gorillia bros...they're finally onto us...
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>>537312531
There are low spec configs for the game, idk if they still work or not
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>>537311552
Disc has dethroned ehonda
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>>537312449
shrimply look at the replays and watch why were you hit
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Has someone has ever meme this meme with sin and ky?
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>>537313092
Holy... i mean, rev 2 it goes smoothly at 60fps except in the ogre valley
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you'll make it, 4k hours noob
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>>537313378
i just cannot win neutral
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>>537314106
ehhhhh, just pirate the game and test it
>>537314208
well now you have something to improve
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Sorry to ask, but what the fuck are necro and undine? Tulpas? split personality? Spirits? Or they were triplets that dizzy eat on justice womb?
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don't have the motivation to play Soive (because it's bad obviously) so I've been reading Castlevania: the Book instead, it's pretty cool, but a little too descriptive and slow at times.
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>>537310915
/geegeegee/ will never stop downplaying may for some reason
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>>537316383
>>537314896
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>>537315097
I really like the opening but it goes downhill once it gets to London, and the later part of the book drags to an absolutely insane degree. I like the Coppola movie more on the whole but the section in Dracula's section is better in the book.
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>>537314465
I have done with all the games i have played anon, i'm poor as fuck
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>>537316926
poor but has time to talk to his 4chan friends... second job asap.
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>>537316546
Yeah, but can they think on their own or are like dizzy's subconsciousness
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Wrong image i wanted to post this one

>>537317192
Jokes on you, i'm a neet (i'm finally on meds for my social anxiety, so i'm finally looking for a job)
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>>537317425
hm I thought that could be the case
no empathy points for you then
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Faust's crawl pisses me off extremely.
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I was blessed with having to fight only one faustfag today
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>faust removes the entirety of my oki (charged stun edge) just by existing
epic lil nigga
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the game has been out for 4 years and i still don't know how to deal with people blocking, all it takes is one whiffed throw and i eat a massive ch combo losing all momentum
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Lucy players: How is having one (1) combo even fun for you?
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>>537319031
See unika lol
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>>537319031
finna hack
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>>537317692
Why not? I just wasted several years of my life drawing bullshit, i need empathy
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man can you believe the fact that you could RC DPs? especially as leo?
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FAB is so washed up…
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>>537320086
you should have been able to prc them on whiff
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I cannot react to leaping crossups, I have a 0-10 matchp against Elphelt on a personal level and I wish every Elphelt player a slow and painful death
It doesn't help that EVERY SINGLE ONE of you fucking retards plays her like a mongolic baboon
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>>537321282
it's all in the game nigga
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>>537321282
Guys please I need HELP ranked keeps matching me with Elphelts on loop when THE FUCK is this stupid muppet cunt minus
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Kyfags have been so silent about him being top tier now.
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i thought they couldnt make a character worse than unika but then they made lucy
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>>537322658
that's because he isn't, happy to help
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Join the tournament
I am no longer asking
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>>537322992
I'll join last minute
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Arcrevo jap winners top 32
Unika vs Bedman
Bridget vs Sol
Testament vs Leo/Slayer
Jacko vs Faust
Faust vs Johnny?
Ky vs Millia
HC vs Bedman
Anji vs Bridget
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>>537323092
is this like the arcrevo finals? i thought its just the usual 1 day tourney
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>>537323338
arcrevo japan is just a 2 day autoqualifier tourney
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nago is still fucking braindead
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kick maelis and i'll join your tournament
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>put out P fish
>Millia jumps straight past it
Uuuuh
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*cracks knuckles*
Tch... I thought I told you no more namedropping, kid...
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Yeah, I think I'm talented...
can people please stop using this stage its so ugly the lighting is so bad
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Strive's best character designs are those with glasses. Seriously just give everyone a pair of a pair of glasses and the cast is 10x better.
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>>537325083
>use pfish
>millia jumps past it
>chestnut immediately
>either anti-air them immediately or get them onblock with fireball
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>>537325404
There's a forbidden mod that turns any stage you want into a padded cell training room complete with a new custom bgm tested and experimental designed to induce insanity.
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>>537322992
>sneed still hasn't joined
too busy with blue cunny?
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>>537325451
Fellow Jambro
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>>537325636
You don't really have time to do 100 frames of stuff when millias air dashing at you.
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Modbro of you're reading this I gotta know, you restoring dp rc?
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>>537326149
he is busy graping hoshino
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>>537326149
sneed is literally half of the tourney on alts
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>>537324993
ft10 me
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>>537326219
>100 frames of stuff
its... the same speed as kapel. and faster than turbofall.
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I hope Jam is and antagonist for Strive. Either as the final one or a set up for the sequel in the Backyard.
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>>537327421
lobby?
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>>537328309
she will be the final antagonist, shes worse than nerville because she will misgender bridget
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>>537327897
Millia upplayers don't look at framedata
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>just played against the same guy 5 times in a row
The incompetence of Japanese developers is fucking ridiculous. This shit was solved 500 years ago how can you possible introduce this kind of fuck up.
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Anyone up for a training lobby for tomorrow?
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>>537325404
i really like the outside grass courtyard, but it takes at least 3 wall breaks to get to it. they should have made that the main area.
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Big Gio sloppa.
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how is this even possible man
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the fact that you throw with d is some of the most retarded shit imaginable
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>>537330998
You're right let's throw with h
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>>537330603
The "hitbox" for air grab is around sol's waist and kapel lowers her grabbox(I'm not sure about terminology but I mean the part of the move where you can grab her obviously) and raises her actual hurtbox.
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We complain about every character don't we
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>>537331691
My main is fair and balanced.
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venom is so unrewarding to play im not surprised no one bothers
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>>537328781
If you guys want to play a ft10 I’ll host so anyone can watch
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>>537331834
so is mine!
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Why is it so hard to do wake up super in this game? I'm new to strive but not to fighting games. Weird buffer window?
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>>537332295
You have 3 frames after wakeup but you don't have to do the whole motion input in that short time, just the final button press. I used to struggle a lot until I realised that your window for doing the motion is fairly forgiving as long as your timing on the last button is exact.
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>>537332194
I know who this is
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Why can May cancel dolphins into left right strike throw mixups now?
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>>537334225
Because she was one dimensional before and sucked (lie)
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>>537334225
they took all those may is too simple complaints to heart
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>>537334373
>>537334412
so why didn't they lower her dmg to compensate
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>>537335207
>lowering damage
We don't do that here.
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119 fucking participants btw
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genuinely what were they thinking with lucys dash?
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>>537336314
That's insane, when are they nerfing Millia???
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If I want to constantly nonstop force my opponent into the most degenerate 50/50s which character(s) are for me?
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>>537336491
Millia
HC
Pochumkin
ABA
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>>537334373
>>537334412
No but seriously it ahs to be fake right?
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>>537337335
It's not. You can backdash some of it though
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>>537331693
Do anybody knows the templates for these?
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>>537336491
millia
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Where does the stereotype of Slayer players not blocking comes from? Everytime I fight one he just blocks for 3 lunar cycles, mashes throught my pressure and wins because the mu sucks ass
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>>537328946
I can imagine her setting up a luxurious restaurant in the BY and using tricks/gambles based of Chinese culture to entrap young handsome men/femboys into being her service/kitchen staff.
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>>537336627
Can someone explain to me why HC is so universally hated?
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>>537338125
hes probably the most uninteractive character in the game. you just have to play against a competent one and you'll immediately understand
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>>537338125
stupid design, no one likes getting hit by a 1 frame gunshot from across the screen, combos look stupid, he usually runs away and hides in neutral
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>>537337975
if he's mashing through your pressure he's not blocking though, is he? if he was blocking he'd just wait for you to end your turn or push you out

slayers can't wait more than three blocked attacks before they submit to the siren song of 2p 2p MAPPA HUNCH
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>>537338125
>Block a button
>Forced to hold a mixup
Simple as that, he shouldn't be able to get shit started from something as simple as a blocked 5k or 2k in nootral when he can easily force his way in or out
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>>537338125
Imagine a character being able to put you in block stun at any point of the screen at all times. Imagine that character also having godlike neutral buttons. Imagine that character also having best in game mix. Imagine that character having some of the best meter build in the game.
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>>537338125
his whole shtick is that he breaks typical rules of fighting games by having a gun that he can fire at any time

as long as he has bullets and meter you have to hold a ridiculous amount out mix, if you're cursed he can do borderline whatever he wants in neutral, if he whiffs a big normal in neutral too bad he can just shoot his gun and punish you for trying to whiff punish
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>>537338313
>most uninteractive character in the game
Against Asuka you are blocking for ages.
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>>537338125
guard crush is an awful mechanic and hc has better access to it than any other character in the game. he has consistently been THE most represented character at high level play in tournaments since his release, but has been downplayed constantly by his players because he "has to manage resources" and his lack of a reversal.
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>>537338549
You're only not blocking that long against HC because his infinite mix is going to open you up sooner than later.
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>>537338485
That's sounds like B-tier as fuck.
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If HC is such a degenerate, unfair, and unfun character to play against why is Leffen constantly complaining about other characters?
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>>537338685
hmmm that's a thinker
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>>537338549
asuka is HC done right, he actually suffers extreme consequences for fucking up and losing his resources
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HC is the epitome of arcsys' design philosphy: "The character has to manage resource so if you play them well your opponent doesn't get to play the game"
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>Guilty Gear has no neutra-
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Arcrevo top 32 starting in 3 minutes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NB1a4gt4FJ0
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The way you guys describe HC it almost makes Potemkin seem like a reasonably fair character.
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dead tranny filled general
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Why did Anji's overpowered guard crush move get neutered but HC's has been untouched?
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>>537339219
The big bodies at the height of their strength were still below HC at his peak
The former you had to outplay to win. But the latter had matchups that he had to make mistakes to lose
Also HC has been stronger for way longer which amplifies why everyone hates him so much
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>>537339219
HC is like that tho
any button (sometimes even whiff) > strike/throw/left/right > hes still plus
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>>537339395
What was even more degenerate about HC at his peak before he was nerfed?
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>>537339364
Same reason why Elphelt, Slayer and Unika's unreactable overhead rekka options anti air, are safe and can be used to start combos while his make you eat your own shit
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why are they in a wrestling ring
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Wait does Gio's new roundhouse beat 6Ps?
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>>537339364
its so funny that you're minus now for using it, at least most people still don't know that
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every time they let the intros play out in this game I'm reminded of how bland they are compared to Xrd
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>>537339928
What's the counterplay??????
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>>537340218
i cant think of a game with intros more boring to be honest
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>>537339498
He used to take less Concentration per shot and be more plus after each shot.
The biggest things that made him disgusting in early seasons weren't stuff that he lost but rather system changes that they had to change to make the game balanced around him.
For example, in seasons 1 and 2 burst wasn't global. Literally any HC combo was completely burstproof, while him landing his burst on you left him extraordinarily advantaged because of Steady Aim and Curse. Wild Assault not existing also made him a lot stronger because characters couldn't capitalize on stray hits for wallbreaks the way he is able to.
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>>537340218
As shit as 6 is I love the starts of the matches
>Can make funny faces on match screen that are unique to your character and have several options
>Cool getting into the ring screen with unique intros
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>>537339835
Yes, all of them. It used to not be the case consistently but they sped it up and now it does
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If you block pretty much anything you are in a mix up situation and he can start forcing you to block half way across the screen with a 1 frame button. Then with his amazing meter gain and being able to wall break from anywhere you are now down a chunk of health and the HC has oki on you. Now dealing with his insane mix again if you guess wrong you are going through the wall again and the ride seemingly never ends. Did I get something wrong here? How did Arcsys think this character was even remotely reasonable in their internal testing before releasing him?
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>>537340218
Having this bland intro music that plays everytime makes it even worse. It was so cool having the stage music pick up in Xrd as the round started. I remember Leo's theme being particularly good because the tempo of the song would pick up as the second character's intro started
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>>537340218
It's funny how intros mostly kept getting better in Xrd until we got stuff like Raven's and then they just forgot how to make intros again for Strive and had to do the whole process of getting better over again.
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Are there any Gios in top 32
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Wasn't RF a Faust player?
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>>537341030
The single most autistic one, even
Like a shiny variant of a unicorn
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>>537340795
>How did Arcsys think
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oh yeah another reason to hate HC is that every HC player plays the same so watching him so highly represented at high level play becomes mind numbingly boring
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>HC shot midair
>Shot hit
>He air backdashed away
>Landed
>Still got to combo
Holy fuck
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Just look at this. An extremely seasoned GG player just can't do anything against this overwhelming faggotry
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>>537341401
>every HC player plays the sameso watching him so highly represented at high level play becomes mind numbingly boring
this but every character in strive. I've never finished watching a tournament
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I think HC (and I guess Asuka but he isn't really that bad imo) would be less annoying to deal with in Rev2 or +R. Not really "Strive" character(s) if you know what I mean.
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are people finally complaining about HC because blind matchmaking exist and they are forced to play against them now
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>>537341583
I don't know what you mean because I don't play those games
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>>537341649
Thats what I was thinking as well lmao. Knew this would happen
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Guys...I like Strive :D
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>>537340218
speak for yourself, my intro kicks ass.
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I don't like how HC just gets to convert optimally off of everything at every range, practically removing the nuance of fighting and taking risks at different spacings
UNI tier shit game design
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>>537342053
okay? It's been like that for 4+ years now
happy you finally played this game for the first time
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I was gonna whine about Testament getting corner to corner wall carry off of a shitty starter because why would he then I looked at the healthbars and he did like a throw's worth of damage
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>>537342232
I made this post two months after he released too phoneposter-san
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>>537342053
the one that really pisses me off is the iad back j.s conversion into wallbreak/hard knockdown
it's such a privilege that like only 3 characters can do
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>>537342053
every strive character can do this with RRC since it makes them float up and sets them up for whatever combo you want
baby game
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HC is at least to me fails as fighting game design
Fire just allows for the most fucked up things imaginable, because of it he has insane zoning, but he also has incredible god tier normals that enhance his pressure, pressure that mind you, he can start even on whiff because even if he uses a "high risk" normal he can just make himself plus with a single button
But of course he also has insane mix, so he doesn't struggle in opening you up once you're in the corner
Both of his supers also manage resources for you so even if you fuck up and run out it doesn't matter because you can just regain his shit with meter anyways, which of course he has insane meter gain
But he also has an amazing backdash, so he doesn't need a reversal super or dp to just backdash your c.s and throw your ass
All of these things + more result in a character that doesn't need to take risks to do anything, even worse is that at least imo, nerfing him won't help. His main mechanic of a hitscan gun is so fundamentally unfair it kind of can't be fixed, I frankly wish he had a rework instead
Asuka doesn't suffer from a lot of these issues because
>Mismanaging resources has huge consequences and all he can really do is sacrificing his meter, which even though he has high meter gain is still very valuable to him because of YRC and particle sphere, or his health which is obvious
>Has bad normals which only really work for projectile setups
>Only real defensive options are DS and YRC as nothing he does has invul, and backdash sucks
>Sphere is a desperation move when you have no mana and or cards, and full order can't be used without mana you need both it and tension to do it, so 2 resources used at once
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>>537342492
Brother we were talking about meterless shit if you didn't notice, how did you fail the layer 1 of a discussion
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>>537340695
No I don't mean in strings I mean in neutral, I just had it happen against a pretty early 6P
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>>537342520
the only way to balance HC would be to remove the ability for him to RC
because every bullet can functionally count as an RC
if you really think about it every bullet is worth 50 meter
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HC is just a Bl*zblue character. He even looks like one and has a Drive button.
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>>537342672
It was supposed to do that before too but it was so fucking slow that it didn't sometimes and was too risky to do a slow move
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God that Millia color is so hot, but I'm forced to cheer for the Ky for playing a Z tier AND going for the DI
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>>537342553
>b-but it takes meter!
there has never been a game with freer meter gain
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Is this stream at like 30 fps, I swear this is skipping frames
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>>537342950
Anon can you really not comprehend using that meter to enhance an already good combo vs allowing for a combo to even happen is not equal at all, or things like using the said meter for other things
Are you legit that retarded you RRC after everything
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>>537343002
They're trying to emulate the average online experience against a millia player
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>>537342812
That's fucked up man, shit is fast, safe, reaches far and hits high enough to anti-air and you're telling me it's MEANT to beat 6Ps in neutral?
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>>537342053
Don't insult UNI here you ruffian
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Wew, DI into lose
So many things change, but not that
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I left the tourney because my ttrpg is that day.. gomen..
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>Ky uses DI
>loses
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>>537343071
>thinks getting corner carry into positive bonus is retarded
oh anon
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>>537343234
GAGLER...
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>>537343207
Even UNIfags have gotten tired with how bad it has gotten with conversionability thanks to 2 dialing it up to 11
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>>537343324
akari...
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Jack-O is so fucking bullshit
She would be top 5 if anyone actually played her
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>>537343189
I guess I've never fully tested it but the enhanced version can definitely catch 6ps more often than not unless they're like super delayed as opposed to early. It catches early ones more easily. The wiki says that too
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>>537343754
She can do everything people accuse HC of doing itt but just require more APM.
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cant run bitch
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Does Japan have any top end HC players?
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Who was that jack-o? Nage actually just demolished the fuck out of him
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Anjibros our guy is on
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Oh yeah that bs where hc can combo off any trade is great
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HOLY SHIT
JIRO IS THE GOAT
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Jiro I kneel
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Insane gap
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I hate Anji, I hate playing against Anji but I swear to god he always has the coolest fucking sets so I end up cheering for Anji players when watching tourneys.
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fucked by fish being minus
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This is insane gap
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It’s kind of insane how bad chaos players are
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those brc into wild assault yolos are insane
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>>537345558
Does the brc make the wa safe on block after the change
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>>537345648
I think it's to just make it cover more distance
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Holy
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Time to take notes
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The character power level difference is so obvious it's funny
>Anji earns a HKD
>Uses his oki projectile
>Has to do 2k 2d or a big gap throw or it doesn't even work
>Meanwhile if HC gets a HKD he gets to choose if he want to do close range oki with like 3 different real mixup starters that deal 40% meterless or stay midrange and fish for shit that also deal 40% or back off and zone where you're guaranteed 20% off of chip and risc buildup if the opponent doesn't waste a RC's worth of meter FD'ing
>HC even has better movement speed as if he's not the privileged one
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>>537345925
i dunno i think Anji is pretty strong! i just watched one walk over an HC on twitch.tv/arcsystemworks ARCREVO in SENZAN 2025
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>>537345925
Butterfly is just astoundingly bad by Strive standards to be fair.
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>>537345887
So what did we learn bedbro
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That guy was Sol IRL
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why is it written "tatuma" when its written with the tsu hiragana in it and the japanese commentators call him tatsuma
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>>537346676
Sol here, I learned the bedman on screen is homeless
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gobou has been wearing the exact same outfit to tournaments for 4 years now
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>Brass Bed with Alisu Derirah
Underrated color scheme
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>use zato's new move once
>instantly kills eddie
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>roundstart
>johnny walks back
>I jump back
>johnny teleports his foot into my face
Hey Daisuke can you shoot this nigga's legs again? First one didn't stick, thanks.
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When's the earliest we can expect 2.0 news anyways?
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>>537347865
arc world tour finals I guess
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>>537347861
They need to nerf his normal dash to release levels again
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>jiro has to face another hc
nigga
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>>537347935
Whens that again bwo
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>>537348150
>Jiro, you have to beat all the HC's
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Does item > eat actually recover and let Faust act faster than letting the item throw play out
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>>537348740
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i swear i've seen leo players cry about this mu for years
in my eyes this looks unplayable for faust
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Why do people keep jumping against Faust, first the Jaggo and now this Leo
That dude has the single most effective anti air AND one of the most bullshit air to airs, just stay on the ground
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>>537349152
gapped, the leo player is just better
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that 2d is such a warcrime of a normal
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>>537349240
B-but it's punishable!
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>>537349317
I punished your mother's wakeup super last night
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Oppose is BULL-SHEIT
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>>537349317
>>537349240
>complaining about a 6Pable normal that is punishable on block
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>>537349649
Is that Kaiju Leo?!
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>>537349649
why is faust 5'1 in this comparison
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>>537349841
Lanklets aren't worth their heights the same way big breasts don't count on fat bitches so that is more accurate
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The Spider's Thread(does he know?)
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As Sol, how do I switch up my pressure once they're conditioned to 2K my c.S f.S dash in throw attempt?

Also, what are my options after super wallbreak? Should I just 8IAD j.H safejump?
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Nothing to see here
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someone post that image of the 2 stickmen playing xrd and one of them is doing mad calculations with chipp while the other guy is just unga bungaing
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>>537346885
probably a transliteration error somewhere. There is no "tu" sound in japanese.
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That was a great set
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>>537346885
Kunrei-shiki romanization, it's pronounced "tsu" still
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>>537350661
Oh, had no idea that was a thing. Explains "tyurara" and "churara" as well
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>have the nerve to block when i see johnny cancel into mist finer startup
>dashes forward into strike throw mix
i hate this character so much
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>That t-bag
Holy shit Millia players are cunts
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Tsuchiya's my goat
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>>537350661
is this why fenretti is fenrich
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Is Sol the coolest character in Strive?
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>>537351697
No, Happy Chaos is.
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>>537351520
Think they're friends. They were messing around earlier
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Is top 8 right now?
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>alexa play Talk About You by Daisuke Ishiwatari
>but this is the 1733th time you've listened to it
>I don't care, I said play it again
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When will Talk About You and The Name of Heaven be available as battle bgm...
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>>537353590
I thought name of heaven was in. I swear I've heard it
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>beat a guy
>he doesn't rematch
>match agian
>he wins no rematch
>game matches me up against him 4 more times in a row
>he loses every time and only plays one match each time
oh you big baby, funny seeing the game punish bad sportsmanship
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>>537353878
was it a gio
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>>537354015
nah Lucy
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>>537353878
The character you're playing determines whether he's a bitch or not.
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>>537354073
Bronze no low combo slayer. He knew how to play he was just a bitch.
I feel like people complain about every character in this game.
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>>537354204
>Slayer
He was justified.
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>>537354204
>Slayer
>in fucking Bronze
he's a saint for not blocking you outright
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venom balls need an extra 15 frames of advantage on hit if people are allowed to mash on you while a ball is traveling toward their face
i set a ball, i hit a ball, i IAD at you behind the ball, you hit me and my ball disappears?
it's not right
either let the ball keep going after i get hit, or if you want to force me to block as i approach so the retard gets hit by the ball he sees flying at his face, at least make it easily convertible into a full combo instead of letting me getting thrown as i run up for a c.S after they eat the ball to their face like a retard
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>>537353590
Talk About You
The Name of Heaven
Shelter From the Rain
Lazy Heart
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when is the 4chan tournament, and how do I join?
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>>537354572
>extra 15 frames of advantage
retarded idea. You'd literally have infinite blockstrings

>let the ball keep going after i get hit
extremely cringe mechanic that permits players to completely face roll without any consequence

>getting thrown as i run up for a c.S after they eat the ball to their face
Have you tried pressing a button with the appropriate range, instead if forcing c.S when you're too far away.
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>>537355530
you're wrong, i'm right
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>>537354572
>run up for a c.S
bro you're a venom, venom players don't even have any combos besides 2k 2d what are you doin
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the only buff venom needs is a slow traveling ball so it would hit the opponent after a throw and venom could combo without meter
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>someone burned down the ARCREVO venue
will soive ever recover?
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>>537356878
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2554217711?t=03h39m09s
it's over
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There's a fire in the basement??
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>basement burned down the 2.0 source code and they don't have any backups

it's over
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all I want from soive is better airdashes and zoomed out camera
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>>537357539
Please tell me your connection isn't stuck at sub 5mbps
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>>537357997
It's 10-11mbps usually.....................
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Holy shit that hc locked in
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Backdash backdash backdash clone steadyaim 2S 2S droppedcombo

I'm so locked in, sisters
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I know you're trolling but he blocked like a solid 20 seconds of pressure correctly
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hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
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>>537359214
Why is it so small?
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>>537359250
erm
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>wakeup Amorphous
I dont get it. What did gobou mean by thus?
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>>537359250
IT'S ABOVE AVERAGE SIZE DAMMIT!!
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have to say the old method for doing IADs was so fun, unlike the current one
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GOBOU REVERSE SWEEP
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Komefrauds what happened?
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Make winger air ok.
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ELBOW
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millia so weak bros!
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nerf millia
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>>537360656
>UNI and Melty are so dead that their general keeps dying so they have to post here.

Grim. How's the update and are they gonna add any new shit or is Izumi it?
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what if millia went bald
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>>537360821
we'd be playing a better game....................................
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After I get Sol to Vanquisher, should I learn Millia or Zato?
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>>537360961
Millia
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Gobou looks so ugly
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is gobou high
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this is rude..........
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>>537355426
its the first link in the OP nigga
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>>537360961
Zato ofc
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Why does Gobou's Sun Void keep whiffing?
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gobou burst
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zato still z tier
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Gobougods...
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i wonder if they would have added the screen behind anji when he does kaachou fuugetsu like in +R but had to rush it like the rest of his kit
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girl on mic came when the fafnir counter hit landed
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Will Milliafrauds finally stop downplaying their character?
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fraudnir
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honest mids
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delusional soivers thinking they are good when they beat my venom with their gorilla character after i hit them 250 times and did 50% of their life
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>>537364182
you arent good if you cant find a way to win with your character
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>>537364238
delusional soiver gets fails to block 50 times in a row and thinks he's good because he won
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>>537364182
Skill issue, Venom's damage is fine in the new patch. Are you the same anon who was asking for braindead buffs?
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>>537364327
lmao
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>>537364490
Will HC be tier 0 after he gets his special move?
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they nerfed ibs because gatling were homogenized in this game so theyd be much easier to ib otherwise,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
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>>537364347
>venom wins round
>10 seconds left on the timer
delusional soivers think they aren't lower than the dog shit on the street after they lose 100 neutral interactions
>venom loses round
>93 seconds left on the timer
delusional soivers think because they flailed their face into their controller and got in once it that they outplayed me
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>>537364560
who's hc? i only know "portal man"
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>>537364327
>opponent doesn't block
>you can't kill them
either you're trolling or you're a complete beginner
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>>537364932
i kill them i just have to work harder than them
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>>537365373
no one works in strive, its just mixup spam
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>>537365584
unless you play venom
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>>537365935
>>537365935
>>537365935



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