Previous: >>537101246 >Falcom Gameshttps://pastebin.com/DsiJppXk>Pastebin (aka music)https://pastebin.com/G2mswYCt>Extra Stuff (guides, downloads, undub patches)https://pastebin.com/n2G4xL5s>Games, mods, saves, pre-patched translationshttps://nyaa.si/user/Ganbahttps://nyaa.si/view/1749605https://nyaa.si/view/1749617>Translation patches for Hajimari, Oath in Felghana, Kuro 1 and Kuro 2https://pastebin.com/g7PfH0bL>Kai MTL patchehttps://files.catbox.moe/ygv0l2.7zUPDATED: 21/08>Ys X: Proud Nordics coming west in early 2026 for Switch 2 and PChttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TjgJnBtV-j4 >Trails in the Sky 1st Chapter Demo is OUT for PS5, Switch and Steamhttps://store.steampowered.com/app/3375780/Trails_in_the_Sky_1st_Chapter/>New Interviews with Kondo with Estelle and Joshua seiyuus impression on their character roleshttps://www.a9vg.com/article/235712https://dengekionline.com/article/202508/50197>Trails in the Sky 1st Remake - 50 Minutes of New Gameplayhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-5qHy23_hkA >The Legend of Heroes: Trails beyond the Horizon New Trailerhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jQELYrJXO-A >Trails in the Sky the 1st website UPDATEDhttps://www.falcom.co.jp/sora/>Trails beyond the Horizon is coming to Switch 2 and delayed to January 2026https://www.gematsu.com/2025/06/the-legend-of-heroes-trails-beyond-the-horizon-adds-switch-2-version-delayed-to-january-2026-in-the-west>Ys vs. Trails in the Sky - Character Trailerhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWlnkFZ4NGI
sex with cumdoll
Feri!
>>537207983zamn
They definitely had sex at least once
>>537208182judith only has sex with film producers
chocolate x vanilla
Kai 2 next year?
Genuinely why do boomers love SC so much. There is literally zero context for anything that happens in that game to this day even. The whole plot is about stopping Ouroboros (an org you know nothing about) from getting the aureole (a magic item you know nothing about) by fighting their overpowered enforcers (who you know nothing about). And also preventing a war with Erebonia (a country you know nothing about). Aside from that all that happens is Joshua kisses Estelle (a girl he cares nothing about). Woooow truly peak fiction this BTFOs everything else in the series so hard we must return.
>>537207983Impregnate Ferida, Ban.
is it just the outfit or is Josette way thiccer in the remake?
>>537207785
>>537207037They should make the next arc after 3rd gets a remake.
What the fuck does volumetric lighting do in the Sky remake? Looks the same no matter what, but if I set it from medium to high game suddenly runs like shit. Everything else on high. But I see no visual impact. Is high raytracing or some shit?
>>537207382
Kai 2 will be Their Game and there's nothing you can do about it.
Love my beautiful, cute, loving, supportive, caring, and adorable wife
>>537209749They're gonna rotate between remakes and main line games with occasional ys releases in 5-6 years.
>537208993B8
>>537211567They should not. Main series clearly needs to be on break for while
>>537212384Kondo did say they'll slow down, but I doubt there'll be more than 2-3 years between each mainline game.
BGG02 gave CS2 story a 15/100 and 5/10 overall
who
Kondo is indeed the President and CEO
>>537212680They need to conduct a post mortem before they even think about the next arc
You all should have dropped kiseki after cs arc. Rean haters get boners hating on Rean more than talking about current arc
Van kid...
They're going to rape Sky so fucking much. They'll turn what was a pretty neat and self-contained story with plenty of hooks for sequels into a nonsense clusterfuck for the sake of later games to solve just like Zero and Ao.
>>537213954*rapes you*
>>537213693
>>537213693They hate him so much because he’s popular and he’s the mc of the most hated arc in the west. Reans actually got a decent arc it’s just class 7 itself aren’t developed characters kinda the problem. Plus his “haters” obsess over the harem too much to actually look at his arc
>>537213954You realize you have the original to still play right? Nostalgiafag much?
Stop samefagging reanjeesh.
>>537213954Honestly, I'd still prefer a raped Sky remake arc over what we get now.
>>537213954You faggots can't enjoy anything and always complain, but for some reason you're still here.
>>537213693lol why are you so obsesseda single post is all it takes to set you off
>>537214669Just ignore him. He'll eventually go back to post in r/syria.
>>537214298What's the point in playing it if it's no longer canon?
Enami's finest work
>>537215210i don't think enami is literally worthless and has never made a single piece of good art ever like /fg/ wants to pretend but he can be inconsistent as fuck and this art really should have been redone along with a couple of others
Why did I watch SDF Macross if DYRL overrides it in continuity
>>537215132Nta but I hope it's a reboot. Just start again with Sky.
>>537215210Enami has lost the sauce
>>537215362Enami isn't a bad artist he just phones in a lot of his Calvard work. I think Falcom are just way too lenient with him. Or they don't pay him enough. Either way I hope they don't use him again after Kai 2.
>Valimar in Super Robot Wars never ever>All because of Falcom burning the working relationship because how Bandai fucked up the Gaghvar trilogyRipples and effects... On our Kiseki..
>Enami isn't a bad artist bro promise, it's just.. calvard!
>>537216182Scamco are jews
>>537216347Everyone who's not a Sky character looks fine.
Enami is inconsistent that’s the problem. The sky the first design at least is similar style with some improvements as he gains experience. Like the reverie art looks like an evolution of cs3 and cs4 art. But with enami the calvard art makes characters look different like Van Kuro 1 art looks like a different dude from Van Kai art. He’s inconsistent with facial structures and hairstyle
>>537215210GM being an ayylien will fix this
>>537214669Why are you so obsessed with people who don’t talk trash about him? You act neutral but you and the other skyfags are just bitter because trails is no longer a game that appeal to you faggots
>>537216123You can see that the last batch of characters in kai have a rough looking portraits compared to other characters. I think Enami was rushed to make them. Also some people may not like his work in kuro 1, but his character art was extremely detailed. I still think that Enami is a hit or miss and to be fair he wasn't the one designing Calvard characters, he's just a payed artist. Ideally I'd love it if NAKBE (Ys 8/9 artist) was the main artist for Calvard, but she left the company after kuro 1.
>>537216496Sky characters are the ones I care the most about.
They should hire an artist who's good at making coom designs.
>>537216654that post i was replying to was literally the first mention of rean in this entire thread lolyou're completely obsessed and its really cringe
CS artist is very simplistic, flat and samey but at least the characters look like who they're supposed to be..Who the fuck is this? This meant to be Van? That face looks nothing like him.
>>537217772It’s weird even though his Kai art looks nothing like him and his hairstyle is off I like it but yea his Kuro 1 design is off
>>537209840Volumetric lighting has always been a meme setting in practically every game. Destroys the frame rate for no noticeable visual difference. It's supposed to affect stuff like godrays and fog but always looks more or less the same whether it's on low or high.
>>537216767There was a thread before this talking about him don’t reply if the comment isn’t for you. Just ignore this then. A thread just ended.
>>537217772Yeah only murakami's artstyle fits with in-game models. I think kuro 2 Van art was decent.
>>537218000so no one was even currently talking about him and you still felt the need to have a melty about your persecution complex lol
>>537218104Just gonna ignore you because skyfags like you are just whiny shitters who are sunk costen
>>537218169lol you're so pathetic and you've now sunk to an entirely new lol
>>537218035Kuro 2 art makes him and Agnes look chubby.
>>537217772He drew a cover for famitsu, and he was super yellow.
i hope the new artist gets more work, so far he only did CG events and ys OiF remaster art
>>537218035He looks like a completely different guy every time he gets drawn. Like this is an entirely different person just wearing Van's clothes.
>>537218358I think that was just a bad scanlation, but yeah Enemy's Van is inconsistent as fuck
>>537218473Who the fuck is this guy lol. Is this Van's stunt double?
>>537218850His hair and face change every single time he gets drawn. And it's not because of his design changing, it's because they just can't keep it consistent. I know I already harped on it too long but it just boggles my mind that it's like this.
>>537218864compared to enami's art, this one actually resembles his character model somewhat
>>537219132I feel like Bean wasn't consistent enough either
>>537218850I like the Kai art
>>537219224Cs3 Rean art was weird he looked more chubby the other games his art was good and hajimari was his best one
van looks different every time because each one is from a different loopBRAVO KONDO
>>537219117Maybe they don't have a design document for him or something.
>>537219224nah murakami is very close to the actual character models and he's the internal artist who probably does most of the character designs in the series
>>537219117Enami still didn't manage to nail Van's hair lolKai is probably the closest to his character model, but still it looks off. That said I also don't like CS artist Van either this one >>537218473 is definitely my favourite
Reasonably speaking, when will kiseki end
>>537220528The next arc. It'll have two sept-terrions like CS.
>>537220528After playing Kai I can believe Kondo when he says next arc is the last. But he needs to give it time because kiseki is their flagship series if it ends then falcom ends
>>537220528Next arc will be the last. However it'll probably also be 4 games. So it could be like 2032.
>>537220771The solution to that is remakes. They can even change some things up and give it a different ending to keep folks hooked in.
>>537220795god please noi understand you have to make the finale big but the longer an arc goes on the more falcom just fuck it up and get complacent so they really need to keep it as few games as possibleif the final arc has a game that is kuro 2 levels of irrelevant i will fucking lose my shit
Kondo himself doesn't know when will it end.He is not even sure if they'll manage to meet the deadline and finish it by 2030
i wonder how many arcs we would have gotten had kuro 1 not underperformed cause before kuro 1 kondo hyped up hajimari as the end of the first half of the series and that calvard would be the beginning of the second half and implied that would be many more new arcs but now falcom act like they always knew that calvard was the prologue to the finale and that was the plan all along (total bs)
>>5372212103
>>537221058There are only two sept-terrions left. So either two or one arc left. If the finale is treated as its own arc, then it goes up to potentially 3 arcs left.
>>537221210he originally said we'll get 2 more arcs after calvard. but now he says we'll enter the final arc after calvard's finale
>>537221612>he's ending the series sooner nowDamm.
>>537221612It can always change he could end up making the “final arc” 6 games if he wanted like I said falcoms dead of trails is over
>>537221058I don't think there's any ending that is grand enough to finish off what is now by far the longest-running video game story out there. It would have to be like coldsteel iv but on a much, much larger scale, where you run around the entire globe and storm the bases of the church/ouroboros/bracer guild/whatever, and literally every unresolved character/plot thread (of which there are countless) is finally wrapped up for good. Who would even be the protagonist in such a game? They'd probably have to split it between all the previous arc protags or something, otherwise it would feel wrong, but that would require way too many route shifting between estelle/lloyd/rean/van/whoever the last arc protag isBasically it's impossible unless you further break it down into multiple games.
>>537221921by now this series has had way too much buildup to ever properly conclude it in a satisfying way
FINISH WRITING THE GAMES KONDO
>>537222362i feel bad for the people who got into those books that shits never coming out
>>537221921It would make more sense to let you finally play as Ouroboros in the final arc for this reason. It would be extremely satisfying as well after 20 years of getting rekt by them. Kondo is obsessed with very specific protagonist archetypes though so probably not happening.
>>537222662Harems saved the franchise
>>537223424Then copy Sky with a girl mc inside a harem again
>>537223424I wasn't even referring to that, more so how he insists on making us play as characters with no actual agency in the world, characters who just sort of observe things from the sidelines without ever getting the full story.I don't know any other RPG which is so insistent on keeping the player in the dark, it's more like the early stages of a shonen manga except right as the protags start to be sort of important you just switch to a new one and start over
>>537208993I said it last thread but yes sc falls off. People blow sc because it's more fun than fc in terms of gameplay, not writing. Fc is the superior product in every way writing wise.
>>537216347People aren't going to want to hear this because enami is badBUT THIS IS THE FACE OF A BOY WHO CAN ACTUALLY PULL OFF A DRESS
>>537221921Just do what Rance X did and make the final game have 200-300 hours worth of content
>>537221058That's the deadline for the end of the world, not kiseki
>>537223919It's less that I think SC's writing is bad and more so that it absolutely relies on all the other games that come after, which is ironic because it's held up as the ultimate uncontested holy grail "this is when kiseki was good" game. It's the only game where you actually fight directly against ouroboros, yet ironically it's when you know about them the least which just makes for a weird experience but something that's nice to look back on. The stuff with erebonia is just sort of whatever too and all the characters absolute need the subsequent development of 3rd/everything else to feel complete.
>>537223806Yea but that has nothing to do with mc trope it’s just the writing style that the calvard arc took. Kai needed to be two games so they made Kai 1 ladder to justify it being a game for the year. I imagine originally they wanted Kai to be one game but they couldn’t so they had to split it to 2. Cs3 and cs4 are the same but I didn’t mind because we were introduced to a new cast new class 7 and western Erebonia so it didn’t feel padded
im not reading allat, qrd on this melty?
>>537224510You didn't need extra stuff to understand secret society of crypto Jews = bad guys. I don't know if kondo was forced to change it by Kato after door 15 or what but this is just not needed in sky regardless because no one needed to understand the deeper motives here.
The only update they need to add to 3rd is to make this a door.
>>537224679They weren't really doing anything evil, they just happened to have a bunch of douchebags assigned to the mission coincidentally. All they wanted was to take the aureole for some reason. And it turns out they weren't even collecting the sept-terrions they just needed that one specifically which makes it even more confusing.
>>537224798whythose twins came outta nowhere in IV and Olivier's hometown shit was okay at best
Azure is the most overrated game in the west anyways. Maybe Kai too
>>537224998Making it a door means they won't show up outta nowhere.
Did Dantes knew the truth about Zemuria?
>>537225314He was literally redpilled
>>537225023Most overrated game in the series is CS1 and it is not close. You literally do nothing that game
Just release Kai 2 already!!!
>>537225634Slutnes...
>>537225608Really don’t get why that old dude thought it was ok for Elie to be a police officer in the most crime ridden city in zemuria
>>537225551Westerners do not rate cs1 highly cs1 and cs2 along with fc are some of the lower ranking games in wests tier lists
Laegjarn's Chest... I have no choice. I shall have to resort to using deadly force.>Burning Heart Χ (Chi=Kai)HUUUUOOOOOOOOOH DAAAAAAAAAAHHHHH
>>537225738Kino
>>537225720I meant in general, not contained to just westerners
>>537225927Nta but CS1 was like the 2nd or 3rd most liked according to Japs
>>537225738Imagines if he that wont be necessarys in the final fight…and https://youtu.be/6XUzvISRwUQ starts playing
>>537224798>fast arts mani forgot about that guyi miss that guy
>>537225314Gerrard probably knows about the vagrants system so Van will probably spread fear kinda like a bigger size version of him losing control when was with bergard in his flashback he mentioned to Leon
>>537226130Me too.
>>537225634
>>537226097Yeah except he says>Your existence... won't be necessary!>Sword of Biting Gale -Kai ver.-.mp3
>>537226339
>>537226224Whorenes
My sister (who is ten younger than me) likes JRPGs, primarily because I introduced her to both Dragon Quest and Pokemon games. I just recommended her the Trails in the Sky demo and she's trying it out today. When she figures out it's an incest game how likely is it that I will be shunned by my entire family? (I am not attracted to my sister btw I just like the game)
It's not incest if you're not blood related.
>>537226619She won't find out that's an incest game (unless she's a NOOOOTICER) until she's already late into the game and engaged.
Why would your family shun you, unless they felt that you'd be the type of person to introduce her to an incest game because you wanted to fuck her?
Haha.....
>>537226619I hope you're adopted
Legend of Heroes: Trails to the SunLegend of Heroes: Trails Beyond the GalaxyLegend of Heroes: Trails of the UniverseLegend of Heroes: Trails of Infinity (literally Eiyuu Densetsu: Nayuta no Kiseki)
Eliekeks never recovered.
>>537226619I meanIf your sister is a complete normalfag that jas never watched anime maybe 60%If your sister has ever watched almost anything based on a light novel you should be good
>>537227816Ngl desu. I find Elie hotter than Rixia atp
REMAKE GAGHVAR YOU FREAKSISNT WHITE WITCH YOUR FAVORITE GAME KONDOM!?!?!?
5 people played the Gaghvar Trilogy
I want to play Legend of Xanadu first.
It's all so tiresome.....
>>537228619it already has remake by koreanshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4bUWvV1KWf8
>>537223424Female harem would be fine
>>537224974They absolutely were collecting them before they shifted gears with the next games. That's what I am getting at.
>>537226619This is basically why I can't ever talk about anime with family. I'm mostly okay with that though.>>537230925This is like America burning down a Japanese internment camp and replacing it with a McDonald's.
how are we coping with the sky remake censorship bros...
>>537234476I’m surprised falcom did that. I guess they are doing this because it’s a worldwide release. Like they aren’t just thinking about jp they are including west sales in their plans now because it’s world wide release
>>537234717Catering to the west always fails. This is a terrible idea.
>>537234717No one knows. Someone says it's the Japanese Feminists, someone says it's the global standard, someone says it's a pressure from the localization team.It doesn't matter. Falcom censored it at the end of the day.
>>537234908I think it’s global standard. Kondo told shareholders when they were asking him about Kai mixed reception, they falcom are now taking more into account other places when making their games like China and west
There’s apparently a Nintendo direct right before the release so that might be falcoms last chance to put in some last minute marketing
>>537235050>make game and put in stuff foreigners wanted>game does badly>decide to double downIs Kondom retarded
>>537235531Yea it’s weird but he’s hoping the sales he gets for both west and east will help. Since calvard games had big gaps from jp to English release. The west likes calvard arc more than japan
>>537235957But that doesn't solve the underlying issue of people in both regions not buying the games.
>>537236363He probably thinks the sales numbers or potential sales numbers is good enough I guess. We will have to see how sky the first does in the west
Falcom should stop these shitty remakes and make new games instead.
>>537237006They did, and people hated it. They should revive older IP and make new IP.
>>537208993Nobody likes any of the Sky games and nobody gave a fuck about them even when they were new. Boomerniggers just love glazing them because they think they get street cred for "liking" an oldschool jrpg.
>>537237006Did you purchase Tokyo Xanadu and Nayuta?
>>537237725Skys style of writing was simpler though I think it’s good to go back to those times when it was more clear and smaller cast size. The padding and terrible pacing in Kai is something people need to take a break from
>>537238030This.>>537237725Wrong. Even Kondo admitted they've forgotten how good simplicity is.
I don't care for simple.I want to go to space and rape timelines
>>537238789I want to play Kai 2 but honestly after the bloated mess that was Kai I want to play a kiseki game without grim garten again lol
Fails in the Jeetmake sells no more than 52k in Japan week 1. Screenshot this.
>>537239137It will. I've done my calculations.
>>537238789I don't want to do that. Sounds like MCU slop
nadia rizz
>>537239653Rizz god
>>537240052Horizon has feri saying cringelord I don’t know if she’s anything of the sort in the original text lol.
>>537240398Does she really say that
>>537240438In one of the horizon screenshots she says it. It’s the scene where arkride solutions office is roasting ixs in Van 2 before they fight him
>>537240438>>537240535this?https://thelegendofheroes.com/horizon/characters/feri
>>537240535Lol
>>537240885Haha
>>537240885Yes
>>537240885I said this before feri is one of the many characters that got punched up and changed the most in daybreak 1 and 2 localizations. Regardless of this line I hope it’s not a habit for this localization because I fear for fan translations to not be there for Kai 2
>>537240885Just sounds like Aaron rubbed off on her. This is character development. Good change. Hopefully she can become Aaron's bride soon
>>537241670I mean I get your line of thought but it just sounds like your creating your own headcannon for her rather than how falcom wrote her line and personality. Your essentially doing the same thing NISA localizer did which is fanficcing
>>537241670I'd rub off on Feri alright
>>537241670>fanfic
>Aaron x FeriI don't see it.
>>537241670>Aaron needs to fuck children nowWith his constant humiliation rituals that sounds canon.
>>537239653nadia fart
>>537241670Bishounen x innocent loli tomboy sounds hot as fuck desu...
>>537242303Sky had a brash older man romance a loli. Cold Steel had a brash older man romance a loli.Calvard will probably have a brash older man romance a loli.
Fufu....
The issue is that jumping from Daybreak 1 to Horizon would be incredibly weird and jarringDaybreak 2 is necessary to have a realistic and logical time frame for the arc, a necessary evil
Hot take: You can't skip any of the games.
>>537238030Kuro + Kai is awesome, my favourite.Sky was good 20 years ago, not any more. I hope the remake will flop, nobody gamers are not interested in such simple games.With Kuro / Daybreak you can play 200 hours, it has 4 different endings for chapter 5, your choices also matter (you can kill or spare enemies), 4SPG choices also matter, how you solve the issues differently.One of the most complex and best Trails games, not sure why some people hate it.Sky is outdated, remaking it is waste of time.
The entirety of Trails is skippable, you don't miss out on anything by not playing them
>>537249915*nowadays
>>537234476>censoring everything themselvesFalcom is done for, isn't it?
>>537249915We're not Jews that get a stiffy over subverting nations.
Life itself is skippable, you can't leave a lasting impact in the cosmos
>try playing the new srw>its not fun>just wasting time until kisekibrehs..
Trails is life, if you skip it, you lose.There are no other games that could bring the same enjoyment, only Falcom games are the real games.
nah im just timesunk into trails so its the only thing ic an play now
FC 7/10SC 8/103rd 6/10Zero 8/10Azure 9/10CS1 4/10CS2 2/10CS3 6/10CS4 4/10Reverie 7/10DB 8/10DB2 5/10Kai 7/10Nayuta 6/10FC remake 9/10
>>537251574Most sane ratings I've seen.
>>537251574>CS1 4/10>CS2 2/10>CS3 6/10>CS4 4/10I'd drop the series if I honestly thought that any of these 100 hours games are under 6/10.
>>537251574FC 5/10SC 6/103rd 6/10Zero 7/10Azure 8/10CS1 5/10CS2 6/10CS3 5/10CS4 7/10DB 10/10DB2 9/10Kai 9/10Nayuta 6/10FC remake 1/10
>>537247763I'm going from reverie to sky 1st.
FC 6.5/10SC 8/103rd 9/10Zero 10/10Ao 10/10CS1 5/10CS2 4/10CS3 4/10CS4 3/10Haji 6/10DB1 7/10DB2 5.5/10Kai 7.5/10Nayuta 12/10
I sense a lot of angry posts by reanfags today
Oh heavens I highly disagree with your personal taste let us engage in fierce debate over personal opinions for the rest of the day
is this a good game? will it hold my time until 1st comes out lads?
She has a whole page in NISAs horizon pageLolLmao
Should I bondwith Gaius in cs1 he's kinda cool
>>537254885idk do whatever you want I'm not your father
I dislike lloyd
>>537254885hells yeah brother
>>537249915>Sky was good 20 years ago, not any moreIf so, then remaking them makes even more sense.>not interested in such simple gamesSky is among the most popular, so clearly not.>With Kuro / Daybreak you can play 200 hoursMost of that time is not memorable and if you count Kuro 2 then it's mindless repeated jobbing countless hours in addition to garden slop.>your choices also matterWrong. Killing characters at the end of Kuro 1 is undone in Kai as they're back.>4SPG choices also matterSee above. They are meaningless after it's introduction, as they're simply a vehicle for doing quests & nothing more.>One of the most complex and best Trails games3rd is more "complex" and it's from the "simple" arc. >not sure why some people hate it.Bad games are hated. Simple as that.
>>537255397What do you hope to accomplish here?
>>537255397Um ok?
Sometimes I wanna play something nice and simple and happy man
>>537255459Just dismantling his retardation.
>>537255623You can't dismantle personal opinions, he will just reply saying "Wrong" like you did and you'll waste your day again calling each other wrong and accomplishing nothing
>>537255574Yea
>>537254580BROOOOOOOOOOGM IS FINALLY GONNA BE RELEVANTKONDO WOULDN'T MISLEAD US..
>>537255574based Ys enjoyer
>>537255781To be fair GM was even more irrelevant in hajimari despite being alone in the box art kek
>>537255574based Zwei enjoyer
>>537255721He added subjective things. He also hopes the remakes flops. I don't want Kai 2 or whatever to flop. So that guy is just a tribalistic faggot
>>537255781she'll be relevant in kai 2 trust the plan (laughs)
>>537254885Should have played with New game+ for max bonding points. I'm sure you can find a completed save somewhere.
>>537255781
Is Mariabell in Kai? To be completely honest Ars Magna is the only "mystery" in Kiseki I still somewhat care about
>>537257397>Is Mariabell in Kai?No.
>>537257418Lame
>>537257516She'll probably show up at the same time as Elie, Lloyd or Kea does.
>>537257798And then she will do a 180 and become like Vita.
>>537239175Care to enlighten us on your keikaki, Cao?
>>537241670Kill yourself
>>537258712zamn
sup
https://x.com/NISAmerica/status/1961670240569549170Poor NISSY getting shit on for the key cards haha...
>>537259268replies arent showing up for mecan't believe the NISA gestapo is stopping criticism
Is Kondo and falcom staff reading this board?
>>537251857so this is the mind of a vankid... interesting.
>>537249125I think kuro 2 should be skipped because it's so bad it mindbreaks your enjoyment for kai and maybe kiseki as a whole
The censorship situation has snowballed. Japs are now getting wind of it. What is Kondom gonna do now?
>>537260284qrd on zenko?
>>537260214Nah, no matter what, the route slop would have killed my enjoyment in Kai to the point that nothing in Kuro 2 could even compare.
>>537260284
>>537260284is that the politician
>>537260284this is not good for the publicity broschuds are going after us
>>537260214Kuro II has about the best gameplay of all the games...
>>537261295shame about everything else
>>537261295i don't agree
>>537261295I think soKai made some weird changesDouble tapping boost is gay in kaiThe haji thing is cool, but doesn't really achieve anything and is more filler mechanics
>>537260505>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zenko_KurishitaVanquisher of censorship
>>537261017>easiest slamdunk ever>ruined by censor dramaFalcom moment
>>537261425as much as i dislike the main plot, kuro 2 does offer some nice scenes, generally all the connect events are great, prologue, act 1-A, act 2-B were really enjoyable, the island interlude is a mixed bag, but honestly quatre reveal was goodact 3 is dogshit yeah, but the final boss fight was kino i don't mind filler stuff, but what dragged kuro 2 for me are the retarded dead ends with no stakes and the plot itself for not being very engaging, i still liked character interactions and the comfy chapters in Messeldam and school
Slamdunk into a trashcan maybe because this remake will be a colossal POS kek
>>537262372the finale was incredible imothe fight, breaking you out of shards, hitting you back in time twice to relive past boss momentsKINO KINO KINO
>>537247763no it won't bestupid nisa shill
>>537262372all the aids of the game dragged everything else down with it for me
Can Celine be a love interest to rean
Love kisekiSimple as
>>537263303
>>537263278yeah i agree that the overall experience was dragged on by the dead ends and by act 3 in particular, but i just turned my brain off at that point so when we got to the coup chapter with Van and co. fighting mechas, tanks and gunship boss battles non-stop i was unironically having a great time because of how ridiculous it waskuro 2 is easily the bottom tier kiseki game for me together with cs3 and cs4, but i won't lie that i had more fun time with it than with cs3
>>537260284That's cool I guess. Does this guy have a lot of followers?
>>537263734>but i just turned my brain off at that pointmy autism won't let me do this for kisekirip
I think Rean should be angrier at Claire and beat the fuck out of the irons bloods like im talking curbstomping skulls anger I hate how forgiving they make him i would be fucking seething
>>537263905He can't be too mean to Claire-oneechan.....
>>537263790this technique helps me to not get burned out from the series, but i still pay attention to the main story reveals it's just very to spot retarded scenes in kiseki since even falcom don't take them seriously and often poke fun at their own retardness
If rean could kill people like 70% of his problems would go away
>>537264424
>>537264730>german solider murdering away his issuesA bit too realistic for Falcum haha....
>>537263774
>>537264856I don't get it
>>537265136Yo that's cool. I hope he tries to contact people and shit instead of just doing theatrics that politicians usually do.
>>537265460it worked until they attacked soviet ambria
>>537265460Erebonia is similar to German Empire, German solider have this habit of harsh discipline on even foreign civilians leading to decimations or killings to stabilize regions
poles deserve it
The series will end with sky remake. It will retcone everything, erase Weissmann and make Richard into the final villain.
Rean and estelle are the same age right
>>537266171No. She's older by a few years.
>>537265687sounds like those foreign civilians attacked first and the entire village paid the consequences
>>537266339ye
das rite
None of them can speak english.
>>537266583*raughs* that's what you baka gaijins would like to believe
is english the official language of kiseki world?
>>537266946its cum
>>537266946The imperial tongue is the language of the land
>>537266946Erebonia uses Fr*nch.
>>537267242DROPPED
Thoughts on Van x Shizuna?
>>537267505Can't hold a candle against Van x Elaine. However, if Agnes wins the Vanbowl, every girl has a chance to bed with Van.
>>537267505I'll eat my hat were that to happen.
>>537265136imagine if this guy gets the remake delayed
>>537267242Calvard's bitch
>Boy am I glad I spent my youth... making sure my video games stayed sexist and racist... it was a good life...
>>537267505Would be fun to see. If they give us the whole romance option thing in Kai 2, I'm def going with Shizuna.
>>537268182it is a good life indeed
>>537268182kato.....come back....
>Boy, am I glad I spent my transhood... making sure video games stay woke and ugly... it was a good life...>joins the 41%
>>537268294this post made me remember that Saints Row got a reboot that nobody asked for and then it flopped and killed the studio
kato wasn't trans THOUGH>>537268420Forspoken too. Don't think SE uses that games engine anymore now
>>537267694It's over. Kondom you fucked up!
>>537267505Great dynamic and potential. What i like about it is that Van and Shizuna keep getting closer with each game so you have this fun development to look forward. That said it's mostly in the connect events and her feelings for Van are still vague, but it's pretty clear she treats him differently compared to others and likes him very much. I guess it depends on what Kondom will do since he didn't completely deny the possibility of Shizuna having romantic feelings for Van. So I'd say the possibility of Shizuna being a romance option is higher than the other haremlets like Judith, Risette and Renne.
>>537268568Delay and remove the action combat Kondo-san
>>537268182RIP
>>537267505Bad and boring, just like every man x woman interaction in this series
>>537253856Hey vankid
I AM Kondo, I am always reading your kind feedbacks
>>537269065Kondo pull a Ryza and SAVE the series from death.
>>537267505Forced even by Kiseki standards.
>>537268182https://youtu.be/Qg_i3Ra-j-0
>>537269260Kek
I miss him
>>537269256But we gotta turn Van into a Rean clone with a harem if we want to make him more popular with fans!
>>537269430He's in a better place.....
>>537269507If Falcom wants to make him more popular, then center the plot around the demons inside him.
>changes the trajectory of the Trails series after Sky>hijacks Rean's arc in CS2>will do the same to Van's in Kai 2When will he stop?
>>537269507Hasn't worked so they gotta change tactics now.>>537269697
>>537267505very cute
>>537269507Van is already a Rean clone
>>537269697He's simply taking reparations bro
>>537269697His remakes will sell a billion units DAY ONE
>>537267505They'll kiss in Kai 2 and there's nothing anyone can do about it. Can't wait to see subhuman reanspics seething over their passionate love making!
I’m curious if there are unironically people here who like cs1-cs3 more than Kuro 1-Kai? Both have the pressure of the 4th game making or breaking the arc
>>537270083is that the true power of the psp? i dont remember it looking so bad back in the day...
>>537270113Hates Rean shippers with Shizuna because it’s forced but then wants an equally forced romance with Van and her? I really don’t get how Van is different to Rean when it comes to his romance with women he has a harem as well
>>537270083
>>537270139My favourite Kiseki is Sen III, but I don't hate the Calvard arc I actually quite like it just not as much as Sen
>>537270313Kuro no kiseki doesn’t have bad numbers. Is that the NISA version or CLE? Because I know NISA version used to be Japanese before patch
>>537270139But both are fucked up already. The only difference is the sales/reception now have collapsed hard.
>>537270139I’m torn because CS3 having new locations and new class 7 makes things fresh but then it fucks up development for a few old class 7 people. But then again Kai no kiseki has the worst pacing than even cs4. But aso is a fun team which thank god only has 8 people
>>537269697>When will he stop?When he finds a pavement worth jobbing on
>>537270313You're gonna have to speak louder, I can't hear you from all the way down there saleslet
>>537270139Kai will be better than cs4 falcom has new engine so they can fit more resources than cs4. Plus the route system makes it so that bans group gets their own time. The remnants are set up for Van teams development. Kai 2 is gonna be huge and the writing of calvard is far superior to cs
>>537270749>100,000 sales of difference kek holy FUCKING shit
>>537270139CS arc had one weak game while Calvard has had 2 weak games so far(and Kai 2 is also looking doomed)
>>537270628this you?
>>537271018Which weak game?
>>537270749AIEEEEEEEEEEEEE sumimasen kurosuberianzu
>>537271163Cold Shit 3 but calling it weak is an understatement
>>537271018CS is made up of weak games except Haji thoughbeit
>>537271291I’m surprised you liked cs4 more than cs3 the general consensus is cs3 is better. Why did you like cs4 more than cs3?
>>537270139The problem with Coldsteel is that nothing of importance really happens but the game bends over backwards to convince you that things are very serious, which leads to the entire thing feeling like a melodramatic meme.That aside Erebonia is a really interesting region and CS1/3 are comfy as fuck
How come Joshua didn't have an anime powerup like jaegers or the 8 leaves fags? Isn't he a martial artist? He kinda did a cutscene powerup in SC against Mueller but there's no craft for it.
Rean suck... Japanese probably like him because of the school setting they use almost in in every single anime and visual novel. Also he is the typical Kira Yamato character, "I hate war and I will stop it..." "I don't kill anyone!!! Killing is bad!"While on the other hand Van is a very cool, unique, mature character, who is working on the back side, and deals with gray jobs. This won't appeal to the usual japanese kids, it is more like for mature people, that is why he is not that popular.
>>537270287You are clearly being disingenuous on purpose or you don't have the mental capacity to understnad their subtle development. Reanspics do be like that sadly, they always act disingenuous without proving any of their points when the story clearly forces Shizuna into Van since day one and you can see their subtle change in relationship with each new game, like for example Van calling Shizuna by her name after the first game or him trying to understand her despite trying his best to avoid her in Kuro 1. Shizuna on the other hand found her place as just Shizuna with Van, while Van started to appreciate her company more and more and is willing to help her if she ever ends up being lost like when she went berserk over Akegarasu's curse. Of course there's also a lot of teases from other characters like Elaine clearly being jealous on how well they get along, or Aaron saying that it's the best to leave Shizuna to Van since he's the only one who can keep up with her pace and with Kaede (my beloved) forcing Van to take care of her from now on. So here's that Reanspic, I hope from now on you won't ask me any stupid questions and quietly take your own life :)
>>537271476He’s a sneaky assassin and is not very good at direct combat, Liberl is just a really weak region so he stands out.
>>537270805>the route systemThe system that fucked over Van and gave Kevin his stuff? You are tempting fate again by saying this stuff again. We don't even know if Kai 2 is the end of Calvard
here we go again DAE think cold shit is total shit? lmao! only [PEOPLE_I_DISLIKE] could enjoy that shit you must be a genuine [SLUR_OF_THE_DAY] to think cold shit isn't total shitenjoy eating shit Rean[PHOBIA]
>>537270749This chart always causes misunderstandings because it doesn’t tell the factors that contribute to those sales. Back in azure days digital wasn’t really that big and vita and handheld were there as well so physical sales would be use from those factors. Of course it would do better than calvard but other factors do exist. Same with why cs3 dropped from cs2. Losing the vita was huge it’s disingenuous to not acknowledge how vita lost is contributing to cs3 drop. However……… I have no fucking idea why Kuro 1 dropped that many sales
>>537271545Nta but no one is reading a shipfags blogpost
>>537271598Huh, I guess you're right? He could block Renne's scythe but she's probably the only one he could go toe to toe with, maybe also Luciola. I don't see him standing up to Walter 1vs1 or his rival Zin for that matter.
>>537271739Yea vankids are really particular and precious about their ships. Like bviously Shizuna and Van are a thing in Kai just play the game I don’t know why they are so defensive. They boogeyman Rean who literally has no interest in Shizuna
>>537271714>I have no fucking idea why Kuro 1 dropped that many salesThe combat filtered Japan. And I guess the story wasn't as appealing.
>>537271508>Van is a very cool, unique, mature character, who is working on the back sideMaybe in Kuro 1, now he is just an inferior Rean clone.
>>537271739Reanspics can't read? Why am I not surprised....
>Cold Steel is bad...they said.>Cold Steel 2 is badthey said...I'm halfway through act 1 of the game and it's amazing so far; visiting Ymir the hot springs town for once, teaming up with Toval, Elise and Celine, the whole civil war going on in the background... it's what I wish Azure's latter half would've been, and Rean's internal struggle carries the story like nothing else.Is this a trend I can expect to continue where people will tell me how much [Next Title] of the series sucks, only to be proven wrong?
>>537271607You didn’t like Kevin’s route? I thought the heretic killer thing is what people like?plus Nadia and picnic squad are fun with Kevin
>>537260563God she's such a stupid bimbo...i love her
>>537271714Kuro 1 was just very sloppy and barebonesSo much so you couldn't even fish despite it being a staple of the seriesAnd when it came to combat no one could figure out turn order, they fucked up something as simple yet essential to the series as turn order
>>537271508>grayHe's not even fully grey in kuro 1. And it's all gone in Kuro 2>>537272035i did but we found out they took stuff from van's route and gave it to kev. making the van route way worse.
It really thinks anyone cares about its racist unhinged rants
>>537271981Assuming everyone is your enemy is exactly why I can't stand you delusional and hostile shitzuna retards
Also check out this Mishy snowman.
>>537271890I was just stating the facts for you reasnpics. Don't pretend like you subhumans haven't filled these threads with your brownoid headcanon fantasies about R*an x Shizuna. Whether Van x Shizuna will be a thing in Kai 2 doesn't matter, what matters is the truth, which you reanspics always try to ignore for the sake of your narrative.
>>537272017>Is this a trend I can expect to continue where people will tell me how much [Next Title] of the series sucks, only to be proven wrong?Unironically yes. CS3 was very repetitive for me in the middle, although I loved the first 10% and last 30% of the game.
>>537271919It’s still turn based though. Maybe the artstyle and setting didn’t vibe with them? But could be plot too
>>537272273I don't think anyone cares about your opinion either ESL-kun...
>>537272396Genuinely take a 5 minute break to calm down and then come back and re-read this post. This is the person you've become. You are a mockery of yourself, it's really pitiful.Snap out of it already.
>>537272017Cs3 is dependent on how much you like class 7. If you love them you won’t mind the repetitive them saving you sword of biting gale. But if your neutral or dislike them then the repetition is more noticeable and gets annoying
>>537272423>It’s still turn based thoughYea but they make it a point to say hey the action is more important now. it's also not even good action combat so there's little point in it. Think they also complained about the orbment system.
>>537272557Rean haters are the most media illiterate people in the fanbase. They make it their entire personality because they are jealous that Rean and cs is received well by the majority and they are the minority who hates the series isn’t what they love anymore
>>537271714>a decent chunk of fans left after cs4 and hajimari>kuro 1 being only on ps4 at the time of the release>shit marketing that didn't emphasize on the hybrid combat system>Enami's dogshit art scaring away otakus (im not lying btw, check the threads on baidu where chinks shitted on Enami's art non stop)>jrpgs in general started to drop in sales in japan around this time
>>537272641Dam you Kondo and your misunderstanding interviews. Orbment system for Kuro 1 was jank but at least Kuro 2 they had QOL. I really wish it would have done better Kuro is a fun game. But they need to stop making games that have cs4 quantity of word count. Kai was too long for a set up game
>>537272396>doesn't matterWrong. That's all you care about. That and muh far east arc.
>>537272017You haven’t started <flying around> yet…
>>537272774I don’t like enamis art, I do think it’s improved in Kai minus grandmasters art but yea Kuro 1 and Kuro 2 it could have been better. I guess jrpgs dropping in Japan is why Kondo wants to make the dialogue in Sky less sexist and appeal to the west. He’s now considering both Japa,China, and west as his audience instead of just Japan because of simul release for Sky the first
>>537273090>appeal to the westBut they did that with Kuro 1, 2 and Kai and they flopped.
>>537271418It's purely on gameplay standpoint, Cold Shit 3 is an absolutely abhorrent game with a horrid story, garbage characters and also pushes Rean wankery up to 11 because appearently everyone suddenly mentioning how much they want to give Rean fellatios and rimjobs wasn't cringe enough.Cold Shit 4 is the same except the gameplay is now bearable since it's a follow up game so the improvements and customization that comes with it makes the game less of a pain.
>>537270805>Kai>More resourceThe entire game is just reused places and assets from Kuro 1 and 2. And the only new town (Anchorville) looks like done by an intern. It's very clear that they delegated 99% of their manpower to develop Sky 1st remake. Which will unironically still sell less than Kai already did. Haha
>>537273090well from what i know both chinks and japs place a great importance on the artsyle, so when they look for a new jrpg to play that's the first thing they look at, and ps4 kuro 1 box art looked like pic rel so it's no wonder falcom changed it for the ps5 but it was already too latethat said it's only one of the factors, but ugly artsyle can scare away potential newfags
>>537272910The issue for them is the system itself. Uness they get god tier writing, Asia will continue to shun Calvard. And the west ain't buying enough to pick up the slack.
>>537273231That’s true but there were more fanservice designs and risqué dlc costumes. Look at take the first. The character model for Estelle isn’t as busty as it was for her cs4 design and the ice cream parlor dlc has spats instead of pantsu. Calvard had more coom design than Sky the first
>call you it>you feel personally attacked and reply to melol what a worthless dog dance dog dance
Everyone wanted Enami back too, kek. Biggest monkey's paw I've ever seen.
>>537273530>Estelle isn’t as busty as it was for her cs4 designEstelle is younger though. >Calvard had more coom design than Sky the firstMeaning, not even coom can save the current games. I'm assuming Asia has given up on this arc. They were dooming even harder then /fg/
>>537273646idk he was pretty good in crossbell, but his artstyle was just better in 2007-10s. I heard Enami has a health issues so mb that's the reason for his drop in quality
>>537273480PS4 boxart for Kuro 1 looks way better. Still not as great as CSIV's boxart (best Falcom boxart ever done).
>>537273880His art is inconsistent he can be good but Kuro 1-Kai van look like different people
>>537273832What I’m saying is that now they are switching to less coom besides schera to appeal to the west because west are more hateful towards fanservice of jk than japan is. They are thinking about west more in Sky remake than they did for calvard because now it’s a simul release and calvard arc Japan still got games first for the longest time before localization so Japan was primary
>>537274249>They are thinking about west moreAnd I'm saying that doesn't work. They already did that for Calvard.
>>537274249>now they are switching to less coom besides schera to appeal to the westNo evidence of this.
>>537267505i kinda want to see it because it'll be a shitshow, with /fg/ non-stop posting the pics of van and shizuna kiss, with others hating on falcom for adding her to the vanbowl etc.
>>537274249You forget that OG Sky had little to no fanservice than Schera either. In fact they upped the fanservice. The big test will be Kai 2 and even going forward.
>>537274406The no pantsu dlc is a proof though. And Estelle not having the cs4 tits shape. The jiggle from Kai is still there though so falcom is still carrying thst
>>537274707>Estelle not having the cs4 tits shape.She's a teen now. She's an adult in CS4. The fuck are you saying
>>537274707>And Estelle not having the cs4 tits shape.Image comparison please.
Eisengard Range... home...This game is so beautiful.
>>537274707>Estelle not having the cs4 tits shapeIt's not like she is a lot younger...
>>537274609That my problem with Kai 2. If Van and Elaine get together my mind will be like, is it because falcom always intended for them to get together or was it originally gonna be Agnes but then falcom changed their mind because of western perception. Falcom hinges too much on catering rather than for the purpose of the story. The west ruined Elaine’s character by making her only on shipping rather than her actual character
What are the odds Falcom kills Elie off if they decide to go the Lloyd/Rixia route? Do they even have the guts for that?
>>537274939>Falcom>killing off anyone
>>537274771Not size, shape. Like it’s more downwards than ovally. Which honestly is good for some people because it’s more realistic I guess than the cs breast models l. I’m talking about model not the size
>>537274939They won't go any route because the romance aspects in Crossbell are little more than a marketing ploy and a shallow attempt to inject player agency into the casts' interpersonal relationships.
>>537274915>The west ruined Elaine’s character by making her only on shipping rather than her actual characterWhat? The west didn't even get the game by then. Elaine is also popular in Japan, and until Kai was the most popular Kuro character.
>>537275035beat me to it
>>537274707>The no pantsu dlc is a proof thoughShow me those DLC outfits in the original game. Did they have pantsu?
>>537274841Thankfully Falcom dropped the old engine. Graphics look much better now.
>>537275187Falcom will only see people in west talk about shipping and romance with her and how she’s good with Van rather than Falcom deciding whether she’s for him story wise. What I’m saying is that west fanbase makes her look more important than she actually is just because of shipping and fear of Agnes winning
>>537274915The thing is Kondo himself baits fans with the love triangle. In his Kai interview he literally reffered to Agnes and Elaine as the heroine race and that Agnes got a huge boost after Kai. He created a situation where he can't really pick one or another, unless Kondom really doesn't care about the outrage from the Agnes or Elaine fags that is.
>>537275701Well they wouldn't have this issue if they didn't listen to the fucking west.>>537275890Love triangles always do that so they're expecting one of them to lose. They just didn't expect Elaine to be so popular
>>537275396It's a different art style, more vivid and colorful anime style.
>>537276251>It's not shit graphics that could run on the PS2, it's more colorful, look!
>>537275890It’s just gonna be hard to take Elaine seriously if she wins because then my mind will think “did falcom actually intend for her to win while writing Kai, or did they plan to make her win during Kai 2 planning with giving western audience in mind and doing it more for reception rather than narrative?”
I am Rean... I stop the war without killing ANYONE
>>537277038here's a shiny medal
>>537275396Looks like Dragon Quest 8 I played 20 years ago. lol
>>537277038Rean could not save Otto...or those faceless soldiers that died in the cutscene were they invade the Empyreal Fortress.
>>537275396>dropped the old engineDid they make another new engine?
>>537277038Ok vankid
>>537277279>Never ever steam versionSquare enix deserves their current situtation
>>537277279In fact this looks better than most Falcom game
>>537277861>he doesn't have a PS2You are not an enlightened being haha....
Only exceptional character in Cold Steel games was Osborne... let's face it, Daybreak series doesn't have an outstanding character like him.
>>537277005I agree cause Agnes actually feels like the main heroine with her romance being integrated into the main story and Elaine only gets crumbs from the connect events. Hell she even cucks herself in kai by saying that she's no match for Agnes when it comes to Van lmao
More like main character haha.....
>>537277961>PS23DS
>>537278156nah, osborne was a let down
>>537278409I don't have that aieeee
>>537278156Don’t underestimate the rat Kincaid
Rene Kink Aid
>>537278156I remember thinking Gramheart was gonna be Trump tier or something, and then nothing happened. Why'd they even mention all that stuff in Haji.
Gramheart is way better than Osborne because he's not some edgy faggot who's willing to destroy the world for the greater good.
>>537277279>>537278409>PS2 looks better and has orchestra music goodness>3DS has no random encounters and more contentThey need to remake this game and put all this shit together in a new package.
>>537278747He's a loser who couldn't even achieve his own goals. He got elected and did nothing to help his voters. Just focused on a retarded plan that no one believed it. >who's willing to destroy the world Giga based ultra nationalist.
Does Shizuna love Van?Yes, Shizuna has romantic feelings for Van, though the exact nature of these feelings is still developing; she has opened up to him about her feelings and questions whether they are love, and states she "could love Van". Her feelings for Van are distinct from her feelings for Rean, with whom she shares a different kind of bond related to fighting prowess and professional goals. Shizuna's Feelings for Van Openness: Shizuna has discussed her feelings for Van with him, indicating a level of openness and vulnerability in their relationship.Potential for Love: She has explicitly stated, "she could love Van".Development: While her feelings are clear, they are still in a state of development, with her questioning the depth of her feelings.Shizuna's Relationship with Rean Fellow Disciples and Rivals:Her connection with Rean is more professional, based on their status as disciples and their role as rivals in fighting.Professional Focus:Her interactions with Rean are largely centered on their shared ambition, such as joining the Spriggans.
did this nigga copypaste an AI summary of Van x Shizuna
I can’t take Calvardfags seriously if they say Kuro 2 is better than any cold steel game including reverie. Makes me wonder why they didn’t just watch a summary of cs if they think it’s worse than Kuro 2
I guess they like the mc that much. Idk. Stopped playing when the BRAP happened.
>>537270749HE has meteoric salesHE is the hero of ZemuriaHE will save Zemurian and Kiseki
>>537277038I KNEEL
>>537260284Japs are not happy. What will you do Kondom?
Kasim won
>>537280415Wow. Starting to think every game after reverie is cursed
>>537280415i know most people will just shrug it off saying "who cares?" but then why did falcom change the original script if no one cares?
>>537279172stfu gemini
>>537279660Kuro 2 is better than CS2. Both are nothingburger games but Kuro 2 at least is more fun to play. CS2 is a 5/10, Kuro 2 is a 6/10
>>537279172i mean it's not wrong tho>Her interactions with Rean are largely centered on their shared ambition, such as joining the Spriggans.kek considering how dedicated rean was at doing 4spgs for van's behalf i can see that
So lazy that they made non spriggers do 4SPGs. Like mechs using grendel combat
Just finished watching Martian Successor Nadesico.I know Kiseki stole Tio from Ruri, but I feel like they also stole Lapis from the movie and used her backstory for a bunch of tragic lolis. Or maybe there's an older character like that?What else did Kiseki steal from Nadesico?
>>537281962falcom and inappropriately reusing concepts go together hand in hand
>>537282034haha....ha....
Agnes is the biggest problem in Daybreak, forced romance with a schoolgirl which is totally illogical, when Van already have past gf Elaine
>>537282261If you have nothing to contribute, then don't.
>>537281962yeah it's a lazy asset reuse, it also breaks the entire point of van being the only "grey" protagonist when rean and kevin also get alignment choices tho they don't work with shady organizations unlike van... as for the mechs combat then idk, i guess they couldn't come up with a new idea and frankly i don't like mech combat in cs either, it's a repetitive and boring rock paper scissors shit
>>537282653sorry
>>537281962The funny thing is, Rean and Kevin are like "Wow, so this is Spriggan work? It's very different from how we do things". Meanwhile they are doing the exact same thing they are doing during school work.
>>537283032the approach to 4spgs is a different, but the side-quest template in kiseki never really changed since sky, that's why it feels like we are doing bracer work in every single game
>>537277038Not killing is easy when you have a precise magical robot.
>>537282725Post naked dogeza right now.
>>537283032i hated seeing kevin and rean do "sequels" to 4spgs than van solved it just felt so cheap
What gave you the impression random strangers should care about how you feel? We are not your friends
How were you supposed to find shining poms in base Cold Steel?
feel the mana in the air
>>537283526it was done so they could glaze van to rean and kevin and show how he helped all these people, so yes it does feel cheap because instead of actually see van interact with rean and kevin and build trust and friendship with them we got this, god i hate route shitfuck kondo
>>537283749y-you're not?
>>537283942God forbid they try something new
>>537284179>lazy=newfuck fagget
Next game the mc won't have a link and will be able to be strong on his own but as time goes on he starts to fall behind those with links and must learn to get along with others to fight with their friends
>>537284423kino.....
>>537279660People say Kuro 2 is better than any cs game to use it as defense to cope that it’s not shit but they can’t come up with an actual reason why it’s good
There will be no new MCs the next arc is the finale and the MC is Cedric
>>537284651You take that back right fucking now I don't wanna play as a crybaby sissy
>>537284319Faggot. She's a problem because she dominates the whole arc.
>My kuso is better than your kusoCalvardfags and Ereboniafags in a nutshell
>>537284724>I don't wanna play as a crybaby sissySadly there's 1 more Van game
>>537284531better gameplayCS1, 2 and Kuro 2 are the nadir of the series. Still enjoyable to a degree, with too many faults that outweigh the good
Arcwarfags are garbage.
>>537284808oh look a Skytroon begging to be let into the boys club
that was a cool LE ngl, kai LE was dogshit
>>537285261was the kai one with those stands
Leave that Crossbellan to me.
>>537284906I see it as basically an indication of when they started to experience Trails fatigue and decided to blame the arc instead of taking a breakIt's no coincidence that the shortest arc Crossbell has virtually zero haters
>>537280415I agree with one of the comments. Why do people play these games if they don’t like it anyways. The people that mostly complain about these games in social media don’t even play them. Many trails fans hate the anime tropes or the writing style of characters yet they keep buying the games for some reason. It just feels like western jrpg players have severe FOMO and has to play every jrpg out there just because they claim to be jrpg players
>>537285436i was talking about the design, but kai did come with chibi acrylic stands afaik
>>537285523No one talks about crossbell because it’s not that interesting story wise and character wise compared to sky and cs. Crossbells popularity is reliant on comedy from too and Randy. It has the worse ending of any arc
>>537285828But enough about Calvard
>>537285617>20th anniversaryI forgot about that
>>537285592Sunk cost plus they don’t want to drop it over “I don’t like the fanservice or tropes” they would be too salty if they dropped it over something like that but then the irony is they keep bitching about those things so they do care more than they let on
>>537285912Calvard hasn’t ended so we don’t know what the ending will be like but so far the character writing in Calvard is better than Ellie, rixia, Noel, and wazy.
>>537286187this people cut crossbell soooo much slack just because it has the 2d graphics
>>537285828Korea loved Crossbell.
>>537285828You can't be serious, did you play Crossbell after being spoiled about it or something? The police drama alone and the tension behind the murder mystery makes Crossbell really exciting your first time throughThen you mix in the more esoteric aspects like the different temples, pleroma and the D∴G cult and you always have things to look forward toI don't understand you
>>537286415Japan and Korea are like polar opposite countries I swear
why bracers dress like whores?
>>537286187All of those characters are better than any of the calvardshitters THOUGH
>>537286456Everything you described is zero. Not azure. I agree zero is amazing. But majority of people just talk more about Sky and cold steel that’s all those stories are just more grand scale and polarizing(cs). I wasn’t talking merely of quality just talking about reception and discussion
>>537286529um, those clothes are just easy to move in you overweight CHUD!
>>537286540Really? Noel and Ellie too? Wazys arc is hidden in optional and missable content and terribly paced.
>>537286529Gotta let the boobs and pussy breathe while youre fighting in the sun all day
wait... people care about crossbell? kek i barely see it being mentioned anywhere
I think your favorite kiseki is gonna be the one with your favorite cast.My favorite cast is Sky so I love those games. If Lloyd and Elie were as well-written as Randy and Tio, Crossbell might be my favorite instead.
cause sky and cs dominate discussion
i like zero but azure is legit the most overrated game in the entire series
>>537285261As someone who didn't play Kuro, if that orbment doesn't have a smartphone screen it's very cool. Cooler than all the Arcus that's for sure.
>>537286952>>537286529
>>537287254that's because CrossbellGODs don't waste their days away here they go out to the gym and take their girl out for a walk in the evening after workthey truly won at life
>>537287489They ruined Fie by giving her C cups randomly even though she was an adult in CS3.
>>537287350That’s true people take priority for characters than story. At the end of the day the story will be “kill god” which represents something humanity needs to learn or suffer from yada yada. But characters can change or dialogue and banter. It’s why there are people who like Kuro 2. The story is dog but they like aso
>>537287719yea.....my wife....
>>537287719it's all the aborted pregnancies she had she's a major whore
>>537287458>if that orbment doesn't have a smartphone screen it's very coolit does, it looks like a flip phone, but when you close it you can open the hidden quartz panel and use your quartz and art drivers
>>537287719HOLY FUCK I THOUGHT THAT WAS LLOYD FOR A SECOND CUZ OF THE HAIR. I almost got a stroke and thought Rean got cucked
>>537287489
>>537282648>forced romance with a schoolgirlYou forgot that Japs love their JK. Your westoid brain has just been brainwashed to be into hags. And let's face it, 16 is the best breeding age.
>>537287886Gay. It looks like the Motorolla phone I had in high school.
>>537288032low iq take. this is hot
>>537288032Don’t know why people play anime games if they hate the designs it’s supposed to be wacky and fantastical even ff designs are crazy too
>>537287886this looks way too modern
>>537288032TRVKE
>>537288185People make fun of FF designs all the time, though. Lulu's belt skirt is ridiculous.
>>537288185>bro its anime so you can't make fun of it!!!god shut the fuck up idiot
>>537288325I mean making fun for fun and memes is all fine I do that all the time with vans shoes in Kuro 1. I’m saying there are unironically people who seethe and get offended when they see fies cs3 design like it affects their enjoyment
>>537288038Brown hands typed that post. Jap "men" are so obsessed with little girls that they're marching towards extinction since they're obsessed with something 99% of them are too beta to get, you're not gonna talk to a high school girl without coming across as creepy unless you're a giga rizzler Chad.
>>537288249yes calvard is way more modern than any other countries, but falcom did explain the reason for that in kai so im ok with that for the most part
>>537288485Nobody's getting offended. It's an ancient meme making fun of how dumb the outfit looks..
Fie looked better before. Need to see her tummy again.
>>537288435Shut up tourist no wonder you hate modern kiseki. Hates anime yet plays anime games you logic is so sane
>>537288549I'm not. Ruins the aesthetic and the whole "Crossbell city is very advanced" thing.
>>537288609I’m not saying in fg plus look at the person that replied to me saying people hate anime design he’s living proof
>>537288610old Fie mogs new Fie
>>537288756wdym? crossbell is a shithole, bit it is advanced compared to liberl which is a bigger shithole
>>537288610Yea fies Kuro design is falcom trying to appeal to westerners unfortunately. But the sales are already proving falcoms downfall
>>537288325They're also what people like. FF has to go back to these.
>>537288880HOLY FUCKIGN SEXO JESUS CHRIST
>>537289032
>>537288880>>537288959TAKE ME BACK KAAATTOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>537288654something being anime doesnt mean its completely immune from any kind of mockery or criticism you whiny child
>>537289014FFXIII was dogshit, though. Its tacky chrome-dome world and character designed sucked.
>>537288880All girls have an expiration date, Fie just happened to peak between 15-17 years old.
>>537289136why did they ruin her
>>537289384This is 13-2 thoughbeit haha....
I don't care for Musse, in fact I think her holier than thou personality ans know it all self fucking sucks and I hope someone punches her in the face one day
>>537289496Falcom can't write more than one character arc per character, so in order to show "growth" they'll either make the chest bigger (if female) or give a cooler outfit (if male).
>>537289496Jews no doubt>>537289761Don't speak ill of my lady
>>537289797>they'll either make the chest bigger (if female)please no, don't ruin altina...
>>537288516Whether a JK is easy to get laid in RL is irrelevant anon, this is fiction. It's wish fulfillment and escapism. After all this is a game with smartphones that give you super powers, demons, flying fairies and shit. If you want to apply realism to Kiseki, getting romantic with a JK is the least unrealistic aspect of it.
>>537289761She'd a dogshit character but she's also thankfully only relevant for like one game.
>>537223919FC is incredibly boring. This is just fact.FC Is literally the hurdle you have to get over to start enjoying Trails. Nothing before Grancel is even slightly interesting. I guess Zeiss a little bit, but before that it's the most boring shit you've ever played. FC's ending is the only thing that gives a hint that anything interesting might happen in the world, with the introduction of archaisms, Ouroboros, Joshua's backstory, etc.
>>537290146Remake making gameplay more interesting could help with those hurdles. And maybe even the new sidequests and bracers like anelace having more relevance to fight the capuas in chapter 1
>>537290146>FC Is literally the hurdle you have to get over to start enjoying Trails.This is why Roido's games are so popular. All you do is get over the barrier
>>537289923Musse is why I prefer violence autists that dont have plans or greater motives, just beating the ever living fuck out of others cause they have fun with it, scheming COWARDS are stupid and unfun. "I have plans A through Z! Even if you beat me I still won, teehee!" No fuck off with that just use violence to put opposition down with sheer force of wil; planning and future thinking suck, apply bat to head, repeat as needed
>>537288654>Hates anime yet plays anime games you logic is so saneYou do realize that some anime is actually very grounded and well written for its medium right? Just because I complain about things in these games especially the writing doesn't mean I hate anime; I like anime things with good writing and dislike them when they have ridiculous elements or bad writing.
>just use violence to put opposition down with sheer force of wil; planning and future thinking suck, apply bat to head, repeat as needed
>>537290336The only <barrier> Lloyd got over is the age of consent
>>537290492
>>537288880Every Fie Is Perfect
>>537290365But you know that trails isn’t that type of grounded anime that you enjoy. My point is for those people. And I was referring to people who were offended by fies outfit in cs3 not about the entire game itself the anime like design of it
>>537290545no the last one is CRINGE
>>537290545TAKE ME BACK TO CS1 and CS2 where the music was godlike and no singa. Cs3 ost is ok and cs4 final dungeon ones are good but TAKE ME BACK
>>537290719Early /singacore/ is becoming nostalgic to me ngl. Sword of biting gale, proud grudge, etc
WHY do they HATE making theme songs for characters
my favorite battle ost is trails in the sky battle im sorry bwos its just happy
>>537290365Steins;Gate is about a chuunibyou scientist who wants to fuck a trap shrine maiden, cat maid, tsun scientist, and some fantasy bimbo who dedicates her life to serving him. It's not grounded at all.
>>537290901Singa used to make music with live guitar that’s why it sounded better in cs3
>>537290976Because no character is worth a theme song except the MC, also because there aren't enough 1vs1 moments to play that ebic animu theme song.
>>537290976Ash and lecter kinda have one in cs3. Altina in cs2 but I guess she wasn’t a party member then
>>537290613The Last One is Perfect
>>537291117This, kiseki insists on making you travel around like a roving horde, it was especially hilarious in coldsteel when you’d all gang up on a single enemy who was lower powerlevel than multiple allies in the same party
>>537291117That's LAME and GAY
>>537291291ugly and dumb and stupid
>>537291025It's a very grounded story compared to kiseki and 99% of anime and has very solid writing compared to those stories. That's the standard I try to compare to.
>>537291292The funniest shit is when they're like "erm we can't travel with a large party or we'll be spotted, 6 people should be okay though".
>>537290545Fie peaked at CS2, anything after is a downgrade
>>537291379The discussion wasn’t about story it was about outfit designs lol
>>537291325Turn on your monitor lil' bro, you're looking at your reflection.
>>537279064Ummm sister... Cold Steel taught us it is bad to be an ultra nationalist, you're clearly affected by the curse. Guess I have no choice>*takes his katana out of thin air*>*kills you*>"Good he's unconscious">"Class 7 move out">"YEAH!!!"
>>537291626then who was phone?
>>537291075It’s insane how much better singa is when he’s using live instruments back in cs3 Jesus Christ. It’s like night and day. His synth is just so fucked in recent games and tech guitar and violin just sound awful. He has gotten lazy and falcom is getting lazy as well
>>537291503I know, I'm generalizing a bit into the ideas of groundedness and how that's related to writing and quality of storytelling. Try to keep up please.
credit where credit is due you can play the OG soundtrack in the remake
>>537291325Perfect and Perfect and Perfect
>>537291852i mean thats pretty standard for remakes now
>>537291663Does bringing crow to dreknor fortress provide unique dialogue for him? >>537291761You’re telling me to keep up but then you stray off topic from the main point lol.
>>537291663You say this like sc and azure didn’t do the same thing Nostalgiafag
>>537291903maybe it is, I don't play remakesit's still a nice touch and I appreciate it
>>537291687Me. I am now inside your walls.
Okay /fg/ it's time to post your wishlists for the next arc
god he is so hot
>>537292218that its the final one and its only 2 games long
>>537291663Osborne was right, so it's okay. I CAN be a chud safely! Thank you, Blood and Iron!!!
>>537292218Roido punches God
>>537292218Estelle and Yoshua marriage arc
>>537292218>Male protagonist>Harem>Able to import choices for who you picked for Estelle, Lloyd, Rean, and Van later on when they appear>Good gameplay>Gilbert marries Campanella after she reveals her female form>Pom Pom Party is back
>>537291663>Rape some crossbell hotties>"T-the curse made me do it">Run away freeHaha...
>>537264283>>537263905Tbf Claire would unironically be the only girl in Rean's harem orbit that would be fine with being just a sex friend if he just asks. Other girls, even Alfin, would demand exclusivity but not Claire. She would unironically be alright with Rean just using her as an outlet for sexual desires. Haha..
>>537292403>I CAN be a chud safely!
>>537292629The erebonian legal system must have been in shambles during those years
>>537292218All One Blade Eight Leaves practitioners meet at Lang Lao for a few drinks and stimulating discussion of the sword.
>>537292749Haha, that’s our Claire…
>>537292749What about Emma? I can't see her talking back even if he were to rape her.
>>537292749What a good girl, she knows her place in the world.
>>537292218Crossbell gets occupied again
>>537276734As an anon with fetishes for big tiddies, foreign accents, and sexy swimsuits, I've nutted so many times to art and screenshots of swimsuit-clad Lucrezia, that I've lost count.
>>537292218Water Sept-Terrion arc>trilogy>arc set in a barbaric land with tons of bracers and mercs>mc is an assassin lady who used to be a bracer>threw her badge away to survive in the shithole she's in>is mostly a monster at heart now>gets a job to retrieve a package >package is actually a little boy>person who asked for it gets killed>she takes the boy>boy ends up fixing herWind Sept-Terrion arc>trilogy>set decades after previous arc>MC is the child of a previous MC>is a girlbracer >parent goes missing>kid goes on quest to find parentFinale>no new MC>split into a duology with part 1 & part 2 in the title
>>537292749I think Towa was also like that in CS3, she would've been a DTF coworker.
I wonder if falcom changed the sexist lines in sky the first because of the west or for Japan. Like yes they changed the jp text but what if they did that so that faithful localizers won’t translate it to the “sexist” comments and piss off westerners. I still think falcoms changing the jp lines is for the west not just because of japan
>>537292218Lots of TioSex with Tio even
>>537292629>>537292834Holy kek.
>>537290336you don't have to get over that barrier in his game. Zero is easily the best setup game in the series.
>>537293451
>>537292629Brilliant. No one in Erebonia would give a shit if the victims were from Crossbell, meanwhile Crossbell also wouldn't be able to do shit.
>>537293356Wouldn't be surprised. So many westerners only get upset if woke garbage is from the translator and give the japanese devs a pass.
>>537293685The right of the strongest
>>537279172The fact that Rean X Shizuna was even a thing is because Reanspics have main character syndrome for the entirety of Kiseki, not just Cold Steel. If you think Rean is still the center of everything after CS or Reverie, then it makes a bit of sense that some ship him with Shizuna with how she was introduced. So him meeting her for like 3 seconds is enough for them to headcanon it to death. I even remember way back then that some even claim that she will be his canon love interest, or have another harem outside of his arc.
>>537291663>The game says invading other countries is bad, even while constantly glazing how awesome Erebonia is despite the fact it did that thing>even has Jurai decide to stick with Erebonia despite having Crow be from there>explicitly say that North Ambria went to shit after a period of relative prosperity when they quit the Empire>"haha this means they think it's bad to be a patriot or a nationalist"Redditbrain
>>537293749>woke garbage such as... "you should act more like a girl" instead of "you should dress more like a girl"Both lines are highly problematic if you said them to a Western woman.
>>537293963Every girl instantly falls for Rean in Coldsteel so there’s no reason to assume it wouldn’t happen in the other regions…haha…
>>537294048>Turning "not bad for a girl" into "not bad for a rookie" because God forbid a child fully in the "girls are icky ewww they have cooties" stage say something minorly sexist and upset a man in his 40s who browses ResetERA
>>537293356Maybe there are trails fans in Japan that don’t like the “sexist” dialogue also. Kondo did say the harem in cs4 got mixed reception. It’s not like every japan trails fan is a super gooner. But for sure they love that stuff more than west. I’m sure more Japanese love Agnes more than west people do
>>537292218Van gets gang raped by Agnes, Elaine, Renne and Shizuna
>>537293963i mean it could be part of it, but the main reason is the hajimari daydream event, reanfags just created bunch of headcanons due to that encouter that's it, after kai most of them gave aside from hardcore shippers like this chink
>>537291663The joke is that Osborne was right and he saved the world, and literally everything goes according to his calculations anyways, including the rebellion
You don't understand. I'm ALLOWED to take this girl as a spoil of war. It's OKAY that she'll be my sex slave. I EARNED this by DESTROYING her HOME. The EMPEROR said it's fine
>>537294192The problem isn't the line itself, it's the fact that Estelle wouldn't act bothered by sexism. What kind of hero takes gender discrimination against their own gender? Not a good example.
>>537294329jesus reanfags really do just want the entire series to revolve around him
>>537294481Still salty sales aren’t working for you favorite arc buddy?
>>537292280Reasonable>>537292492Haha maybe>>537292515Erm, no, that'll happen at the very end of the series, mmaky>>537292549>>537292845>>537293152>>537294294Awful. Terrible even. Try AGAIN.
What's your most annoying translation quirk beyond the fanfiction and reddit talk? Mine would be their insistence on characters saying "Aidios" when the Jap is at best just saying "goddess". It sounds so unnatural and stilted. What's wrong with using "goddess" the same way we would use "god"? Same sort of thing with randomly inserting "Gehenna" even though it sounds forced as fuck and they forget their own standards sometimes and use hell lmao.
>>537294595>Aidios>AI DIOS>>Artificial Intelligence God>>>xe doesn’t know
>>5372943291 twitter user=entire Rean fanbase. Rean haters are the most ill brained people who are too stupid to have reading comprehension when playing cold steel
>>537294595When dub doesn't translate Senpai, oneechan etc
>>537294735except it's actually Eidos
>>537294481yeah, also van got side-lined in kuro 2 and kai so they want rean to take the lead role even more nowi honestly don't understand why falcom didn't just continue to make games with rean as the mc if they keep cucking van out of his arc, just makes no sense to me
>>537294569Are you gay or something?
>>537294595The entire reverie, daybreak 1, and daybreak 2 localization. I’m fine with xseed and geofront/nisa for crossbell their liberties aren’t too bad compared to calvard. The three games I listed are inpossible to play with jp voice the characters are saying completely different things
>>537294762It's cringe and gay to state someone's title every sentence, unwise anon. Can you imagine how annoying that would get, unwise anon? Sometimes you can be such a clueless anon, haha but you'll always be my unwise anon.
>>537294754Shouldn't you go back and post in r/syria brownoid?
>>537294894>Elon Musk is going to destroy FalcomYou rike?
>>537294858It's a simple case of being the next thing after a popular thing. He wasn't ever gonna live up to it (especially when he's pretty similar). It was just made worse by Falcom cucking Van outta his games.
>>537295026Shouldn’t you be back in class and learn to read
>>537294405>What kind of hero doesn't lose their shit against a silly kid who says "you're good for a girl"?????????
>>537294894Can Elon Musk buy falcom and save it from woke shit?
If /fg/ was a country in zemuria, which one would it be?
>>5372948942025 is the worst year
>>537294894>this guy tweeted about Sky 1st censorshipUh oh
>>537295185Only a hero who's not a good role model wouldn't point out the sexism.
>>537295269some irrelevant shithole next to arteria
>>537294754There's also the chink that made lots of Koikatsus. Reantards are revising history now because of Kai but there are decent amount of them claiming Shizuna back then on reddit. Ao3 fics were full of Rean Shizuna as well .
Censorship wasn't a meme? It's big enough to get that guys attention?
>>537294894Please save us Elon Musk.
at least if this gets enougu backlash maybe falcom wont do it for sc remake and 3rdcause if this continues the 3rd remake will be censored to hell and back
>>537295467Nta, but let them. I don't care who you ship. I'm not a woman, so I can't comprehend caring about that.
>>537295467It’s just fanfiction for fun plenty of people ship other MCs with other characters too. People have headcannons of Lloyd and Alisa but I don’t see you complaining about Lloyd fans l. Ao3 is not a good place to see “reception on the games or opinions it’s just for fun not taken seriously”
>>537295467Shizuna is the chinese ideal. I half believe she was made for them specifically. There’s like 50 azur lane/arknights/mihoyo girls just like her.
>>537295467>There's also the chink that made lots of KoikatsusIt's him actually. Also chink reanfags were pretty vocal about shizuna's connect event in kai saying that falcom destoyed her character and that she should've been just obsessed with fighting and lost to rean.
>>537295642But I want remakes of those and more. I don't care for mainline kiseki anymore, and they haven't revealed any new ip.....
>>537295467The question is why does it bother you if people ship Rean and Shizuna you already know she’s part of the vanbowl after Kai why do you care what fanfic writers care about? Your just finding another excuse to “hate” Rean even though it’s not even a character related thing
>>537292218My wish is that Kai 2 and Sky 1st flops so hard that there won't be another arc nor an ending for Trails and Falcom finally follows through their creative bankruptcy with a financial one
>>537295913>We get the ending of kiseki as a press release statement and thats itKINO
>>537295650I agree, besides most of them gave up after Kai and I saw a pretty be resurgence of Van x Shizuna shippers in the west after Daybreak 2 release and Kai spoilers.
>>537295913That's a bit RUDE>>537294957No I think it's fine
>>537296012It's gonna have the cyberpunk 2077 yellow on it lol
4 months left
>>537295387Thin skin is not a heroic trait.
>>537296320They are all built for Elie
>>537295913based
>>537296162What are you smoking? All classical heroes were paragons of virtue, including comic book heroes from the 20th century.
>>537296320Someone should edit Cao in where Kondo is
>>537295225Fuck off, Musk is a retarded junkieIf anyone should buy it, it is either Sony or Nintendo.
>>537296443Deleted it because I didn't mean to be that strong a criticism. But >>537296345
>>537296406Don't you have a English class essay to be working on, Xin?
>>537296320Do you think these devs think about the negative fan reception of Kai. What are they thinking.....
>>537296635those are shareholders anon... they only care about their stocks
>>537296320(raughs)A toast! To a successful transition of two games a year!KANPAI!
>>537296752Oh, lol. So one of THEM asked about the reception....who was it.....
>>537294595I hate how the catspeak gimmick from the Sky games was discarded during Crossbell.
>>537296832
>>537295752Does Shizuna even wants to fight Rean?For someone who is obsessed with fighting strong people she treats like it's and obligation instead of a desire.>In Reverie, she uncharacteristically ambushes him then leaves.>In Kai, their first match wasn't even planned and their second match she ditched.
>>537297191She knows Rean is just holding back…haha…
>>537296992https://x.com/michsuzu/status/1869679827890135254>Q: In recent years, license sales have exceeded product sales. If the number of products decreases, the number of licenses will also decrease. There has been criticism of the slow progress of the story in "Kai no Kiseki" and that it ends abruptly at an important scene. What are your thoughts on future product development? If things continue like this, you won't be able to attract new users>Kondo: The proportion of licenses is increasing, but the source of this is the quality of the products. The sale of licenses is almost entirely based on proposals from the other party. There is a Falcom fan in the other party's business partner's company, and they proposed the license to us, which is how the product came to be.>We recognize that development is the most important section within Falcom. We have received mixed reviews of the scenario for "Kai no Kiseki," but we need to consider this further and think about how we should approach it going forward.
>>537296518Kek Musk running a game company sounds comedic. He'll rename Falcom Nihon X Corporation
It has nothing to do with wanting Shizuna to bang Rean, dumbfuck Kusoeaters. It's about Shizuna having a plot thread with Rean that she drops because she's more interested in riding Van's dick than having anything resembling a story or personality.She is the biggest example of a character who gets black holed by the protagonist in all of Trails but you will defend it ebcause it's Van and not Rean.
>>537297297Just make a coom gacha its literally that simple
>>537297191Yeah, if anything it's just Reanfags that want him "redeemed" or whatever. Shizuna could care less
>>537297297Amazing. Kondo said loads ot NOTHING!
>>537297191>In Reverie, she uncharacteristically ambushes him then leaves.How can her first fucking scene be "uncharacteristic"? Holy shit
>>537295225He can buy Falcom ten times over. He's hardcore anti woke too. Doubt he knows what Trails is though. His anime resume is pretty standard. Death note and FMA
>>537297618kondo being forced to admit that a game had a mixed reception is a huge deal
>>537297191>>In Reverie, she uncharacteristically ambushes him then leaves.They didn't have her character down back then.
>>537297191She knows it's a part of what YKF is planning. She knows more than she lets on. Her purpose essentially.
>>537297809>silly! Her first showing isn't what she's like>Her actual personality is a vapid bimbo whose only interest in life is fucking Van!From the same fucking people who complained about Rean being a "black hole"
>>537297645I mean, compare that to her in Calvard. Do you think she will ambush someone when she can satisfy her battle lust instead?
>>537297690Yea, I guess it is. I doubt it'll change anything until the next arc, though.
>>537297449Vankids are the biggest hypocrites calvard arc has same styles of writing as cs even the harem but because Van tells jokes and eats candy those writing styles are suddenly ok. People no longer care about character arc they just care if the character says a curse word and is edgy
>>537297994Guess not
>>537297449but shizuna wants to have a life outside of her "purpose", she wants to be with van because van is the only person in her life who tries to understand herbut of course reanspics only care about epic shonen battles and not characters
>>537297191Feels like it's a case of not liking that it's something that she's going to have to do, versus the freedom she enjoys.
>>537297297How in gods name does shareholders not have a problem with Kuro 2 but Kai is where they have issues. Kuro 2 is waaaaay worse Kai is an amazing game and a perfect set up for the next one. I can understand the pacing is dog but at least shit happens in Kai Kuro 2 was 90 percent filler
>>537297191>Does Shizuna even wants to fight Rean?yeah, the entire point of their duel is for both of them to achieve their true tachi or whatever, but for shizuna rean isn't the end goal while for rean he needs to clash with the black god according to YKF>For someone who is obsessed with fighting strong people she treats like it's and obligation instead of a desire.Nah she clearly likes fighting, but it's not her entire character because she's not without a reason. Her connect event in kai is basically about her wanting to be "picked up" by van, so i guess she does want to break free from her role and live for herself, but she still said she loves fighting and improving till she reaches the zeroth statei assume shizunawas basically locked down her entire life without much of an outside world experience, but when she met van, she started spending more time with him and the others and she started to enjoy this freedom>In Kai, their first match wasn't even planned and their second match she ditched.that's the point, their match started way early than it was originally planned, i think shizuna has a rough understanding of kaiten, but she said that she wants to be with van and the others in this crucial moment.
>>537297654He sounds like a normalfaggot!
>>537298291Vankid loves harems too I see still using one twitter user as a scale for all Rean fans. Vankids needs to pay more attention in stats class about sample size
>>537298323Cheap to make and they made ROI? Only scenario i can imagine
>>537298291>Her purpose is BAD! Her personality is SHE WANTS VAN'S DICK>ugh, fucking cskids, they don't get this amazing writing
>>537298393One headpat away from Rean’s harem
>>537298517>>537298494of course harems are all reanspics think about, kekit writes itself
>>537297946Are you new to media in general?
>>537298323Didn't kondo also admit kuro 2 had a negative fan reception?
>>537298534Rean is gay and Crow's property
>>537298578That's literally the entire fucking topic. Kusoeaters defending that Shizuna's personality is that she wantse to fuck Van.I can't name a single fucking female character from Cold Steel who abandons her life's work to chase Rean's dick.
>>537298578>Reeee, why this girl isn't in my favorite mc's harem!??? >Reeee, why this girl isn't in my favorite mc's harem!??? That's both you right now.
>>537298578Nta but tbf you guys seem to only care about that too.
Van deserves his harem, Rean does notSimple as
>>537298796she's still gonna fight rean in kai 2 relax lmao calm down but rean only sees her as an obstacle meanwhile van actually sees her as a person and he doesn't try to force her to do anything unlike everyone else in her life so of course she has a respect for van so it makes sense that she cares about him
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>>537298762Crow is Vita’s property
>>537298986You've kinda proven that you're just a different coat of pain of them. The only difference I can see is that you're essentially in denial about the similarities.
Why when someone mentions Van x Shizuna, Reanspics start a melty?
if van is so similar to rean then why do rean fans spend every single thread crying about him
>>537299206
>>537299223Trails fandom has always been full of hypocrites. The Rean haters for sure only look at surface level stuff because of bias of hating him. Whereas for Van since they have bias of liking him they look much deeper
Why when someone breathes, Vankids start a melty?
>>537299363all u do is complain about van because "westerners like him" lmao you are just as much of a hypocrite as everyone else
Cumdoll owns Rean, he actually hates women and prefers his sex toy
Van is just better
>>537299292I see Rean being mentioned more desu. Either in passing or specific stuff.
>>537299436Because they are salty that people don’t like their favorite arc or mc. It’s just jealousy honestly. They hate that people can like or enjoy some of cs whereas they don’t so they feel FOMO
>>537299549at low sales LMAO
Van's harem is more accepted is because it's not a small army. They're not romanceable too, so their development in their connect is more consistent with the main game. Rean can declare his undying love for X girl in a bonding event, then thirst for Crow's cock in the main plot.
I played Kai and I got Rean AND Van, plus a side of Kevin/RufusI'm feeling like a winner to be honest with you brosNow I can't wait for Kai 2 to get all of that PLUS Estelle AND LloydI truly love Trails
>>537298669I don’t think so. But shareholders did not confront Kondo about Kuro 2 like they did for Kai that’s the wild part. Kais a good game.
rean fans literally just cannot handle that someone likes an mc that is not reananyone says anything nice about estelle, lloyd, kevin, rufus or van and it's always an immediate melty about it
>>537299791>Kais a good game.
Characters around Rean are in his orbit then constantly leave to live out their lives. See: CS2, Reverie.Characters around Van are outside of his orbit then constantly leave their lives to exist in Van's orbit.Van is literally everything that the CShaters claimed Rean is, but they defend him instead.
>>537299742Any mc that was in the cs arc was going to have that because of the school system and what falcom wanted for the mc at that time. If Van was the mc for cs he would be the same way. People are way to focused on Reans harem to actually talk about his character and people obsess over the harem to actually talk about the female characters
>>537299549
It's truly interesting how you never see Sky vs Crossbell, Sky vs Calvard or Crossbell vs Calvard wars. Or Estele vs Lloyd, Estelle vs Kevin, Estelle vs Van etc. It's always Cold Steel and Rean vs everyone else. Wonder why that is.... It's almost like CSfags are always the problem...
>>537299783Lloyd isn't showing up until Kai 3. Kai 2 will probably have us visit Liberl though and Van will see a CG of Estelle shaking her ass at him from the window of his car.
>>537299792It's the other way around. Vanfags are not able to comprehend why Calvard flopped, etc. Everything they've done is a reaction to that fact. It's why some of them shit on the remake, too.
That is the funniest part, people orbited Rean because they were classmates sharing a dorm and stuck in schoolNow you have people like Aaron that will abandon Langport just so he can move in with VanOr Feri straight up abandoning her entire family and job just to move in with Van Even Judith put a hold on her acting career just to move in with Van LMAOOnly ones that didn't do shit are Anies and Elaine, funnily enough
>>537299986Literally all of those have happened here, especially with Kai/Kai 2 vs Sky 1st remake.
>>537299986Skytrannys constantly seethe about cs 24/7 on this site your delusional or a skytranny too
>>537299986>Sky vs Calvard Been happening since 1st's reveal. Go back to the thread when the game was announced faggot.
>>537294819Eidos closed in the 90s you tard!
>>537299742There’s a funny sense that the women in coldsteel only like Rean for shallow reasons. Especially as he becomes a national celebrity, and starts to have this circular effect of women liking him because other women like him.The only ones that actually give a shit about him imo are Laura and cumdoll.
>>537300127Kuro 2 literally showed Aaron and Feri doing their own thing without Van and Kuro 1 ended with everyone going back to their own lives.
>>537299986check the generals when the Sky 1st demo dropped it was nothing but Skytroons viciously celebrating that their remake killed Calvard
>>537299986Vanfags were furious when the remake was revealed.
>>537300127Nta in this discussion but they all went with Van because they wanted vengeance on Almata, and that Agnes genesis can lead them to Almata. But it was afterwards they bonded and worked together and kept working with van even after Almata was taken down
>>537300105>shit on the remake, too.i mean you don't need to be a calvardfag to shit on the remake, kai ended on a huge cliffhanger, but falcom shafted the sequel for the remake so it's no wonder some were pissed, it mostly calmed down tho and fans are waiting for the remake and hoping for kai 2 next year
>>537300318>>537300326I don't see how that contradicts what I said, they DID leave their lives behind to move in with Van, even if it wasn't forever
>>537300305Nta, those women liked him before he became chevalier. Did you skip cs1 and cs2? And Juna and altina did not like or fall in love at first. And Musse explains her whole deal with attaching to Rean
>>537300323why do you always act like tribal niggers? or only vanfags play calvard games and you're just secondaries who spend most of their time shitting on the games because it's not your favourite arc?
>>537300549Uh yeah, so the plot of the game could happen? What is Aaron supposed to just stay in Langport the entire game instead of be a party member? What a retarded complaint lmao.
>>537300384>it mostly calmed downScroll up. He hopes Sky flops. Nothing has changed, and I'm gonna take every opportunity to remind him that his beloved arc flopped the hardest from now on. Don't care anymore.
>>537300579I’m pretty sure Rean haters legitimately did not read the dialogue in the games. Like it’s insane how misinformed or shit their reading comprehension is they must have skipped text after text when playing thru cs like Jesus
>>537300656i don't care what some shitposter wants, doomposting always existed don't act like it's something new, most of the fan are excited for the remake, but they also want kai 2 next year because of the cliffhanger ending
>>537300616A plot the writers purposefully crafted so that every member ends up living with Van, and orbiting him Yet people moan that Rean's classmates orbit him because they all share a dorm LOLIf you can't see the hypocrisy I can only assume you're purposefully disingenuous because the truth hurts you
>>537300579Alisa’s attraction to him really isn’t complex, he just talks to her about her problems and she latches onto himSame with Emma, and FieLaura strikes out to me because she actually empathizes with Rean and tries to help HIM on multiple occasion, her background as a swordfighter and a lesser noble probably made her connect with him more.
>>537300839I didn't say anything about Cold Steel, jesus you people are fucking obsessed.
I dont like Juna she seems so "woe is me Crossbell got annexed and its gdp is bursting and quality of life has increased exponentially. Noooooooooooooo why dont you just leave us alone" mother fucker you lost the war you bitter loser if you wanted to stay independent dont lose and its like the best deal ever, the place wasnt sacked, no mass rape, no mass killing this is the gentle est occupation in the history of history, they become and esteemed city in the empire and get all the benefits of citizen ship i swear to god I hate the cs3 cast except for altina
>>537299986Epic Skytroon falseflag bro
>>537299026Which one could you realistically rape without magic powers?
>>537300902black souls 2 on steam doko?
>>537300902>picImagine if Agnes dressed up as Elaine and asked Van to sex her, haha…
>>537300889My original post did, which you replied to.Are you incapable of following a thread of discussion? What the fuck.
>>537301075Yeah people complaining about that in CS is stupid, but so are you for complaining about it with Calvard. It's a fucking JRPG party members need reasons to work together.
>>537300820There's enough of it here where it isn't 1 guy. This was before all the censorship drama shit too so there was nothing to doompost the remake for. So no, I'll remind them each thread.
I'M GOING TO AGNES
>>537301154I'm not complaining about it, I am pointing out their hypocrisy when it comes to Rean vs Van orbiting Take a 5 minute break you're way too emotional and combative without taking the time to comprehend what's going on first
>>537301336AGNNNEEEEEEESSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>537300902Arios agrees with you.
I think /fg/s problem is that people here have spent years obsessing over this series every single day instead of just playing them when they came out. Eventually you just run out of things to talk about so you end up just nitpicking stupid shit you're never supposed to think about and that really doesn't matter and end up making mountains out of it. Then you get to the point where all you do is just complain or look for things to complain about. Usually this only happens with series that rarely or never get new games but this is an almost yearly series but people are still just stuck in this end-stage nitpicking mindset. No this isn't "just turn your brain off bro", but so many of the arguments in this thread are over shit that just does not matter or affect the quality of the games at all.
>>537300902>German fascist regime takes over diverse city run by family of jewish bankers, the streets are walkable once more. What did kiseki mean by this?
>>537301704true
>>537300902yeah, sure. And then crossbell citizen were sent to fight calvard.
Osbourne quite literally did NOTHING wrong.
>>537300902Junas whole speech at orchid tower doesn’t work if you didn’t play crossbell arc. Kinda like how Laura hating on fie doesn’t make sense if you didn’t play azure
>>537301794Haha....a bit too based there, Mr Kato.....>>537301704Yea. Too late to go back to early banter years. I think.
>>537301704Kekua...
>>537301927Wasn’t really much of a fight, Calvard was just getting roflstomped by the tech gap. They should be grateful Calvard didn’t take them over first kek
>>537301704I'm just using /fg/ as free debate classes to sharpen my skills
>>537302007This. He was fighting (((THEM))). >>537302021But Jaegers are subhuman, and we learn that in Sky THOUGH
>>537301927Fighting for the GLORIOUS EMPIRE is a privilege!!!! Heathens from barbaric lands NEED the firm IMPERIAL HAND to guide them!!!!
>>537300861Yea but the point wasn’t how good the romance was in your eyes it was just that they liked him even before he became ashen chevalier. If you or others think ashen chevalier is why they liked him then you really are just ignoring the dialogue because he has a harem. You don’t have to like harem many people have stated how it hurts the character writing but harems do not delete the actual dialogue these people have with each other
>>537302007He forgot to appoint Rean as god emperor of Erebonia before he died
>>537300861Since Rean's harem is comically large, there are someone that will have just an attraction just because he's their type. Like Duvalie and Musse. For Van, Agnes kinda falls down in that category at first. Elaine is his ex so it's understandable, Renne considers him as part of people who saved her back then. Saara is no longer a prostitute thanks to him etc
I know the Grandmasters secret
/fg/ are the only niggas that will complain about harems in one arc but then spend 4 years begging for everyone to be romanceable in the next one
>>537302732All part of the plan.....
>>537302969It’s only bad if cold steel does it
>>537300902It's funny how no one cares about Crossbell being part of the empire aside from Lloyd and his friends, the average crossbell citizen couldn't give less of a shit about it, kek
>>537300976all of them
>>537302969most of the people who hate cs left after cs4 but you're still trying to have arguments from 2019most of the cold steel posts every thread are csfags complaining about complaints about cs instead of people complaining about cs
>>537302846
>>537302969We call that hypocrisy. The old vanfags who didn't like that stuff are mostly long gone. I miss those guys.
Who is the first Anguis
>>537301524Arios is both race traitor and regular traitor so his take on the annexation is irrelevant.
>>537303140If you hate modern trails then why didn’t you leave also? Instead of being some doomer who can’t critique the arc properly and blame cs fans for your sadness and saltiness
>>537303268fufu
>>537303301i didn't say a single thing about hating modern trails, only that current csfags are more obsessed with the haters than the haters are with cs as evidenced by your post
>>537303140this is such a flagrant denial of reality that for your own benefit I am going to assume you are just purposefully being facetious lol
>>537303371B-bakana...
>>537303268This guy probably >>537303150That's not the secret
>>537303268Nielsen and its been obvious since 3rd
>>537303396You didn’t say it but you complained about csfags. That already tells me everything. You act neutral but you are one of the anons that bitched out to csfags
>>537303150We should get to fuck the Grandmaster and look at her butt
>>537302969i mean it's just frustrating at this point, 3 games and we still have no romance and falcom keeps pushing other girls for van so it's no wonder some are starting to believe there'll be a harem, because everyone has their own favourite girl after 3 gamesat its core kuro isn't that much different from cs when it comes to handling the male protagonist and the girls being attracted to him, it's just how falcom writes this shit and to be fair it does appeal to otakus, the problem is that we have 3 games and there's still no romance
wait do we still not know any new anguises? I haven't started the new arc yet
>>537303573im not acting neutral about anything lol im actively criticising csfags for making a bigger deal out of the people who hate the arc than the people who actually hate cs do about csand this is 4chan you newfag retard, we say -fags about any group
>>537303150What would she gain from that?
>>537303641Haha...
>>537303627>it's just frustrating at this point, 3 games and we still have no romanceWhat an absurd statement. You sound like a fucking women.
>>537303371CAO LEEEEEEEEE!
>>537303705Yet you’re still salty that people can like cs. At the end of the day the series is no longer something that appeals to you and your denial over it is making you lash out at people who enjoy what you hate
>>537303734Fufu wouldn't YOU like to know?
>>537303641W-well....
>>537303971i didnt say a single thing about cold steel as a game or an arc only about the retards like you who spend every single thread crying about people not liking it lolall you do is just prove my point by acting like this
Just got off the call with Kondo, they're trying to write something where Lloyd, Kevin, and Rufus have a defined, canon romance by Kai 2 and/or 3. They still want Van to be up to player choice and they're scared of what fujos and shippers will do if they do anything with Rean.
>>537303767>>537304045what the fuck but they were teasing a new 7th all the way back in Reverie what is this arc doing after 3 games
>>537304094Imagine a fully voiced, in-engine sex scene with Rean and Alisa…people would die…
>>537304167Ouroboros is unironically on vacation right now. All because of Gramheart and his retardation. Someone please shoot that faggot.
>>537304303I would use my going into games machine and behead Alisa.
>>537304332Kondo had to put them into grim sharten
>>537304167>he doesn’t know about THE IMAGINATOR
>>537304303Implied sexo.....zamn
Hum thinking on it actually WHY did they bother teasing someone replacing Arianrhod if Kai just reset the world? Surely she'll just be back.
>>537304552With a full, slow, camera zoom-in right on Rean’s ahegao face as he nuts…
>>537304414Maybe shoot him too>>537304609The sword mommy....retvrns....
>>537304552shoulda kept their relationship, idc how
>>537304664Haha, cumdoll always getting into these situations…
>>537304609The partial reset didn't go that far back.
>>537304094Lloyd's canon romance is Tio because she still has her barrier (hymen) and you know how he feels about barriers
>>537304656Musse....you can't post these things.
I figured out who the First is recently when I randomly thought about it. Kinda wish I didn't.
>>537304921Dorothy, right? The random "oops" trip to Calvard seals the deal when you consider everything
>>537304818They did. She's preggers haha.>>537304921Would you like to share with the rest of the class.
>>537304921Nielson? Come on, that's basic bitch theorising.
>>537304859or did it? Haha...
>>537305085Dorothy is the jar jar binks of kiseki>>5373041677th is Aurelia, the whole rivalry was probably leading to that. Also she is morally bankrupt.
*puts on a mask*I'm the first Fufu...
new>>537305274>>537305274>>537305274
>>537304875Sure, Tio. Keep telling yourself that, Tio.
>>537305138I don't like theorizing or reading fan theories. I consider it spoiler-adjacent if that makes sense.
>>537304552NSFW DO NOT OPEN IF UNDER 18
>>537305370Love her outfit.
>>537293293KYS
>>537298323Kai is a complete slog in all fronts for 99% of the game Kuro 2 gets carried by the Grendel Rojo that alone is a nice mystery to have. Kai has nothing...instead of a set up game it's shat up game the shareholders definitely came to this same conclusion. kek.
>>537307018What's wrong lol
