Summer Souvenir Edition>Latest patch:https://forums.playdeadlock.com/threads/08-18-2025-update.75046/>Steam Page:https://store.steampowered.com/app/1422450/>Where to leave feedback and report bugs:https://forums.playdeadlock.com/>How do I git in?Post your Steam profile and ask. You need to accept a friend request to be invited, so don't be autistic.>How do I git gud?Do the tutorial, get a feel for each hero in sandbox mode, explore public item builds, watch replays. Playing a Hero for the first time will put you into a lower rank game*, so don't worry about it too much.Additional Resources:>Unofficial Wikihttps://deadlocked.wiki/https://liquipedia.net/deadlock/>New Player Guidehttps://docs.google.com/document/d/1lMBE7Nli_sVJ42d-kPHjF3MBaXZdIM46gNJQC_fMGMU/edit>Advanced Movement Guidehttps://docs.google.com/document/d/1yfPHJsMrKcg_8wqa95qu0sOFxRdzKLF_eUWOZX7RLHc>Unofficial Stat Trackerhttps://statlocker.gg/Threadlocked: >>537184050
>>537216821i really like the new font bros
rest in piss stillborn pink ivy
>>537217345same
Ivy owes me sex.
>>537217358how do these fucking faggot niggers get to ban people all nilly willy?
>>537217256HOLY FUUUUUUUUUUUUCK SHOW ME HER STONE PUSSY NOOOOOOOOOOOOOW
>>537217256why isn't she flat?
The trans community has claimed this game as their own. It’s fucking over.
Had my first game with paige and she seems giga easy?Support bot and keep throwing random dragons and boom easy ggwp?
>>537217489same way indians do, by sucking up to the establishment and defending it like their lives depend on it. by laugh reacting this creature, you cut it's IRL lifespan short. you've basically bought and procced spirit burn against a drain tank.
I have played less than twenty games of deadlock total and still joined the inhouse.
Any tips to get Victor? If the next game doesn't give me him I'm DCing instantlyI have Haze, Infernus, and Seven on low prio and Victor on high prio.>got sevenFuck this. Is it because I don't play tanks?
>had to take 2 guardians and 3 walkers by myself because my entire team was jungling/feeding GTOnly 3k of my souls are from neutral camps, get me out of this elo hell dawg
>>537217586It accurate to her new model. She's not entirely flat anymore.
>>5372178063 heroes you never played on white + victor on max prio. Always reset queue after 5 minutes. This is the only way to guarantee contested picks as a solo.
Why are Haze players consistently the worst lane partners? It's like all they see in front of them is souls and ignore anything else going on
>537217661Troons try to claim everything under the sun.
is ivy good for a solo player
>>537217957M1 players too stupid to pick infernus and just do the same thing but everything better
>>537217256>Ivy is basically a cuntboybros...not like this
I have figured out how to win with miku.park my ass in a side lane and do not leave, even if my team shows up.
>>537218182Flat is justice you homo. And the hetro term is "reverse trap"
>>537218182ivy's a girl with pecs
>>537217957They're only in farm mode and overextend if they think they can get the kill (which they can't outside of their panic ult button).
>>537217842proof?
Why do artists always draw Ivy fat?
>>537218054Genuinely. I've been playing Deadlock since the closed beta release and I STILL don't know what the point of Haze's existence is. Devs continuously rape everything gun-related. Infernus does all the same shit Haze does, but with Spirit instead, so he's already incredibly favored in the item, scaling and resistance meta. Not to mention that his kit is actually good.
>>537217801were you wraith both games?
Victor is awesome. That's it.
>>537218462Paige
How do we vote for Priest/Boho/Pirate/Swan/Slork?
>>537218501
>>537217464Me too
are these honest characters?
>>537218693By waiting a few months. Assuming they stick to six characters a batch, I wonder who the freebie is going to be?
>>537218310open the game, look at her
>>537219028boho to bait people back in with a cute girl like this batch
>>537218959These are so few games it's hard to tell. For example M&K genuinely could just be a few extremely good players.
>>537218054It's the braindead no aim ult that draws retards into playing Haze. Little do said retards know they can just pick Infernus, run Split Shot + Fleetfoot and just run people down with an unmissable spray of bullets that way while being infinitely more useful.
There's people out there shipping ships that have never been shipped before.
>>537218959>DrifterDishonest>MoDishonest>LashHonest>WardenHonest>Yamato Honest>SevenDishonest>ViscousHonest>AbramsHonest>pocketDishonest>billyHonest>InfernusHonest
>>537217256>finally return to play>vindicta can no loger dash while flyingwhy?
>>537219220
>>537218021Yes but you have to know the build
>>537219220Makes an iota of more sense than Doorman x Drifter
did they ever fix the bug where the message>game is safe to leave, match will not be scoredwas a fake?
>>537218747Genuine questions are there any parents that browse this general?
>MinaBad no matter what>BillyDecent for bad players, outstanding for good ones>DoormanBad for bad players, excellent for good players>PaigeDecent across the board>DrifterGreat for bad players, broken for good players>VictorBroken no matter whatIs this accurate?
>>537219250shit list
>>537219429They're the two most fujobait characters in the game. Though I assume Seven/Kelvin is the fujo ship for the fujos who actually know the lore
>>537219430https://youtu.be/hR__jaHmIIk?si=5esLByCgj_AOTnmS&t=84
>>537218054>>537218436Like this anon said; >>537219202. It's just retards picking her for the brain dead ult when you could just run Split Shot and run people down with literally any fully automatic gun character, never miss and still do actual damage to people.
>>537219619Can you into detail for each one? Thanks.
Was there always a mystery nigga hiding under the stairs?
People claim Drifter is the best character in the game, but what exactly does one do against Death ballers?
it's so satisfying to drop down on some low HP enemy from above and rake them to death
>>537219884HOLY SHIT ITS SLORK
>>537219889rat
>missed all the inhousesShitI need a reprieve from this goddamn matchmaking
>>537219889splitpushIf they send 0 or 1 people to contest you, you just eat their buildings alive
>>537218310Itty bitty
>>537220008what if they send half the team at you
>>537218959>implying anyone is Eternushighest rank tier lists never apply to the playerbase at large
>>537219819Mina needs good aim to work, but even when she is working her damage just isn't good enough and she has 0 survivability. Billy is good since people in low mmr don't parry so you can just use his combo on everyone, when your team coordinates his ult really shinesEven retards can shred with Doorman's bells but it takes a certain skill to really make use of the doors/trolley.Drifter is Drifter, you can melt anyone that is alone as long as you have an awareness of what being alone means. Well I only played 1 match with Victor and 2 against and in all 3 the team with Victor won. He is ridiculously tanky, can get infinite heals (especially if he picks Infusor) and if you get into his aura you die. Not to mention his free revive.
mcginnis feels kinda shit to play now and i cant pin down why.
>>537220261>she has 0 survivabilityrestorative locket helps a lot, especially the stamina part
>>537220130then they aren't deathballing anymore and the rest of your team has a numbers advantage
>The meta rn is just running at them doing 40 trillion damage with 7000 quabillion healthsigh...
>>537220423what if your team are perma junglers and dont push any lane
From what I understand, Billy is just better Abrams, but Abrams counters Billy. Correct or no?
Is holiday a good character? also, is she hard to play?
>>537220546>good characterShe's arguably a top 3 hero atm. If not the strongest>is she hard to playI dunno. But do know that melee'ing a barrel mid-air will cause it to instantly explode when it comes in contact with a surface or enemy, which is the easiest way to use her barrels for damage.
Does getting spirit resist on Victor lower the damage you take from your 3
>>537220546yeskinda, barrels are pretty braindead but you really want to be able to hit reliable headshots for crackshot
when are they releasing more furries or anime
>>537220636yeah, it's a must-have
Valve devs like my posts on the forum. Be more like me.
>>537220416Yeah I built locket and stamina with her, but it feels like she needs far more investment and skill for a lower reward than just picking infernus. I mean she is a cute vampire and not a nig but still, I really hope she gets some kind of buff later.
>>537220619Is she? I have seen her maybe once since coming back to play. If she's that good, surely I'd see her around more?
>>537220127sexy
>>537220719They kinda do different things, you're not supposed to be doing Infernus things as Mina
>>537219317she canit's been bugged since they introduced hero specific key bindsyou have to unbind ctrl from fly down and bind it to something like C, then unbind shift from fly up and bind it to something like spaceyou can then use ctrl to dash down and shift to dash forward againi know, it's retarded
>>537220725Most people don't know about meleeing barrels midair because it's not explained anywhere ingame, without that bit of tech she's incredibly clunky.
>>537219220I feel like this is less of a ship and more of a funny convo the artist came up with based on Mina's comments about the Doorman's outfit.>"Ah, but THIS one is freshly pressed~"
I wasn't very attached to anyone on the roster before this patch. Now I have all 3 of my forever picksBilly>Victor>Drifter
>>537220846True but Infernus can do everything Mina can (and better)
>>537220858What's Holiday's core build supposed to be?
zzz this game is literally just pick the new nigger heros and chimp out
>>537221014I don't think he's even remotely as mobile, and their ults do very different things in teamfights
>be victor's strongest voter>he comes out last>spend all night trying to get a game with him>finally get one at 4am>someone doensn't connectI'm gonna cry
>>537220949It's frustrating, I like all of the new characters but they're so good they invalidate the strength of the existing favorites. If a team ends up with three or four of the busted new heroes it's just over.
>>537220927I'd agree if that artist didn't also draw this which definitely feels a bit shipish.
Does Victor's gun shoot faster the longer it goes or am I imagining that
>>537221164Its not like theyll be op foreverprobably
>>537221138He doesn't have the vertical mobility but his dash is strong as fuck both to initiate and to flee, and even gets charges in t3
i dont think billy is as oppressive as drifter or victor but he's up there
>>537219398this is so out of character for himhe's so above humanity's trivialities that her insulting him would probably just give him a chuckle
>>537221348Billy kind of gets fucked by counterspell
>>537221419I haven't picked up counterspell yet, with stuff like Chain Gang and Death Slam do you need to time your parry before you get roped or before you get pulled?
>>537221331Vertical mobility is insane in this game imo
>>537221374He does sound audibly annoyed in his voice lines when people insult the Baroness or service workers.
>>537221552before the effect actually activates, with billy it's easy but vs lash ult it can be hard to time exactly when he decides to pull unless he's using it against just you
does anyone even use capacitor? seems like a pointless upgrade
>>537218021Yes, she's very good. You don't get full utilization of her ult but the rest of her abilities are so good it doesn't matter in pubs. Her gun and survivability are crazy.You can still pick people up in obvious circumstances like retreating or urn (has this been patched?) but in my experience people don't want unsolicited pickups if it means they have to not fuck up afterwards.
>Poorly designed KitMirageVindictaWardenCalicoDrifterGrey TalonHollidayIvyVyperMo
manbuilding for mina is hardher base ammo blows massive cock
i mostly play warden and lash and need to branch out who should i pick
>>537222134use quicksilver reload+kinetic dash and the t2 bat upgrade for ammo
>'ritualist' lobby>feels like an oracle lobbywish statlocker would update quicker so I can look at my opponents
>>537221348I've yet to play against an oppressive drifter in ~20 games. I think I've died twice to him and both were in a teamfight where he happened to get the last hit.Not saying he's balanced but I just see him as free souls atm
>>537221978purely for viscous cube
>person farms doing nothing for a 6400 item>buys leechi love instantly losing because people think leech is worth buying before 40k
>>537222222
That feel when you get the downie retard special needs kid on your lane and don't get to do anything at all but win anyway cause one of the other lanes fucked the enemy team so hard it's balls deep.
gin & tonic while i play and i sip everytime my teammates do some retard shit
What 6 millions????
>>537222134her rake blows massive cock.her passive blows massive cockher lips blows massive cockher ult and blink are the only things that don't blow massive cock.
>>537222696>& tonicDisgusting
Sinclair is actually fun as fuck to play. Just launching these magic missiles at people while being a pest and squishy as fuck. Every time I got one of them on my team they were dogshit but he seems ok?
>>537222880ult is terrible, rake is good
Who's the best character after Seven and Lash for 1v6 defending Patron?Mina and Bebop have their flying AOE beams, Paige has her wallhack stun, and Billy's got his budget Lash AOE yank, but I can't really think of anyone else. Dynamo ult isn't gonna kill anyone so if all your DPSs are dead you're just gonna lose anyways
So what I'm getting from reading these posts is that all the new characters are broken as fuck in some capacity besides Mina and to some extent Paige right?
>>537221178It does. It follows the same ramp up rules as McGinnis, but it's less noticeable and I think he has a faster initial fire rate.
>>537223004definitely not Mina. Her ult is useless if there's more than one guy since the damage is split
is it worth it to grab the 30% defensive items anymore? dumb question im sure but last time i played was when they had the experimental heroes with slork and holiday so its been awhilei see theyve broken up a lot of items and a lot of weapon damage has been removed?
>>537221978If you're already running tesla bullets it's a decent upgrade on its own, but it can cancel quite a few abilities. Off the top of my head>Kelvin's ice runway>Talon's flight>Viscous cube>Haze invis (good fucking luck though)>Paige barrier probably >Moe tunnel>Calico cat>Warden willpowerIt's just a semi-solid utility item that gives you a stat bump to TB and lets you cuck some specific shit. I don't usually get it but the only time I run TB is on Ivy, and I'm usually looking for more DPS, speed or heals at that point in the game.
>11/10 Drifter spent the last part of the match talking shit about how fucking trash we were and to check out his total damage to see how this game is actually played>mfw his structure damage at the end of the game was literally at 3 digitsI am not ready for the massive wave of mobaniggers this game will get hit with when it gets into open beta
>>537223004Probably Bebop since the giga nigga beam at full stats heals him fully, and if the enemy rips all their stuns on him while he's Unstoppable, they can't do anything against it. Infernus can kinda work if the enemy is dedicated to killing the head, but the rest are kinda dependent on not getting blown up or being able to get people off the head for 10-20 seconds.
>>537223291wow the 1v1 ganker hero doesn't partake in splitpushing towerssurprising
>>537220008>>537220423Ok, I've begun to split push, but suddenly 3 of their team teleport on top of their team mate from two lanes away and I instantly die, now what?
>>537223610flame your team for not pushing the other two lanes
>>537217256Let me get you checked in!
>clock in the hideout was ringing for midnightspooky
>there's no forced 50this isn't even subtle anymore
Where do women like Mina congregate?
Lash has to be my favorite. Win or lose I'm having fun on him no matter what.
>>537221164I disagree, the only character that "invalidates" anyone is maybe billy over abrams. doorman is amazing, but a great viscous can match his utility and go all in tank as well
>>537223610Run like a bitch if your splitpush is ever contested
>>537223857This but Mina.I just really like landing those maxed out rakes and deleting someone's health bar.
>>537223854Applebee's
can you curse and then kill victor to stop the revive?
>>537221374>he's so above human trivialitiesnah he gets pissed off a lot. which is more true to how greek gods are depicted in myth more often than not.
Can sinclare use victors ult?
>>537223024Mina's genuinely the worst hero in the game. Paige isn't that bad, and is actually better than Doorman. Doorman's fun, but he's not super busted (especially after the nerfs).Drifter, Victor, and Billy to a lesser extent are very broken. That's kinda expected. It's better for the game that the new heroes after a big content dry spell are busted on release and slowly brought down from the heavens. Releasing them weak (or even just mediocre) just causes them to remain unpopular and weak for a very long time (example being Sinclair).
>>537223719AAAAAA GET ME OUT WHY AM I SO FUCKING SLOW
>ahead in lane>go to gank since my solo can hold lane for several waves>2 minutes later i'm now the bottom net worth on the team and no matter how hard i creephit i can never catch upwhat the FUCK AM I DOING WRONG
>>537223136>Her ult is useless if there's more than one guy since the damage is split>getting hit silences you for 1.25sGranted that doesn't really help the 1v6 part, but keeping a consistent silence on the area can sway a defense upset if she's racked up love bites counts. The damage on her ult is never a threat unfortunately.
>>537224007Same. She's so fucking mobile and farms fast as hell too
>enemy mo doesn't buy debuff remover>constantly walks sticky bombs into his teammates and gets me a gorillion stackslmao
>>537224259what's silence going to do when they just shoot at your patron bro
>>537224174if you die while the audience participation is still ticking down yeah
Man, fictional jew york is so pretty.Why doesn't our society appreciate aesthetics anymore?
>>537224095No. It seems like the ult is an everpresent buff where the check runs after he's killed where no items can't stop him.>>537224174Yeah, as long as Sinclair still has the ult active.
>>537224440We don't have magic
>>537224258That's kindof to be expected given the current balance. Kills (especially shared among 3 people ~evenly) aren't worth very much compared to creep farming. Creep farming is ##1 the best source of souls in the early stage. So you're forgoing that (while giving your lane partner a 50% bump in soul income) to go get some kills, and give your other lanes more breathing room for their farm. It's different than it usually is in MOBAs, but kindof the same. The gankers aren't the carries. But you're sacrificing more in income than you would be in DOTA, because you're earning less off the kill.
>>537224549What is stopping us from pretending we do?
Mo should get 100hp per stack but his model size increases by 5% per stack
>>537224321>Granted that doesn't really help the 1v6 part, but keeping a consistent silence on the area can sway a defense upsetRead mothafucka READ
heheheyou see dat shit
>>537224973you rang?
>>537224973Let me show you why I'm the best.
>>537223136>>537224259So Dynamo tier thenI think I'll test refresher Paige tomorrow, I think she's got potential to shit out enough burst damage to scare the enemies off
>1 year old game>Valve>no such quality content like pic rel from the other threads here on /vg
>>537225483what do you even mean
>>537225552we don't have enough wacko gooners I think he means
finally won enough games to go up 1 (one) rank
now that all the charcters are out, i can safely say they need to completely rebalance anti-heal and anti-tank items, tanks and sustainers scale way too fucking well now and counterplay is borderline impossible borderline dog shit to play in its current state
Looking for tech help. I'm getting an awful stutter every now and then that just locks up my screen for 2s before going back to normal. Doesn't seem to have any rhyme or reason to it, just happens and fucks up whatever I might be doing at that moment like aiming a skill shot or directing GT's Owl.I haven't found any conclusive help through google. Anyone have something similar happen to them?>CPURyzen 7 3700X>GPU3070>RAM16 GB
>>537225651Tanks are the weakest they've ever been, guntard
>>537225712you're completely clueless, congrats
>>537225552He is an AI slopper spamming AI slops for unknown reasons.
vegas sounds kinda like barnyyy 2behaych
I volunteer to be mina's chair
>>537225829What's wrong with AI art? Are you an artist no one wants anymore?
>gank lane>fat lash ult>team runs away>they have near full hp>they run back in and dielol, lmao even
>>537225674instalar gentoo
>>537225827No I'm not, you are.
>omfgbbqwtffff victor is broken!!!>buy healbane>laugh as he burns to death twice from my splitshot fingergunsezzzzzzzzz WINZ
>>537226098It looks like shit bro. Get better GPU and better AI.
>>537226098nobody ever wanted indians
>>537226295They were only saying he was broken a few hours ago pre nerf, dingus boy
>>537226098the people that post it and spam the same image 50 times with very slight changes is what annoys me, i don't care much for it one way or the other
>>537226295i do want to play him but everyone is queueing him. guess i'll just play another week of paige.
>>537224804do i really have to just sit in a boring 2x2 lane where nobody can push for 15 minutes so that i'm not perma last place networthwhy not just pick haze/seven/infernus every game
>>537226505>do i really have to just sit in a boring 2x2 lane where nobody can push for 15 minutes so that i'm not perma last place networthYes.>why not just pick haze/seven/infernus every gameI know, why not?
>>537217256>Victor's tagline is "you can't kill me">Last 3 games hes just gone 0/10What did yoshi mean by this?
>>537225674try changing the renderer to vulkan or directx based on what ur current is
>>537222134mina just sucks in general, no reason to play her when characters like Haze exist
>>537226658>I know, why not?because 20 minutes of pve and then 2 teamfights and end is boring? if I wanted to do braindead jungle routes all game I'd still be playing dotawhere's the early game fuckly
The black woman of Valve unoriginality.These are TWO different characters.
Mina is actually broken now.
I think the only nerf Victor needed was to his heal cooldown.He needs to buy so many items just to not die, then he doesn't do any damage because he's invested so much into not instantly shitting himself.
Mina is actually shit now.
I've always raped with Mina
I've always raped Mina
so clearly punch abrams is a meme, right? how are eternus playing him?
Holy shit, picking up Split Shot in my builds along with Ricochet and Vampiric Burst has changed my fucking life. But knowing me it won't take long for people to catch on to building Split Shot and get it nerfed.
Ice to meet you
>>537222880Does she blow massive cock too?
>>537227047What was that doormans build? Asking for a friend
>>537220225do you really believe characters like mo, drifter, warden, yamato, and seven will be weaker at lower levels?
in theory could Paige summon tentacles from her books to...entertain...herself?
>>537227170NTA but some flavor of endless spirit, spirit burn, cooldown t4 probably
>>537227170
>>537227301Only if she finds the right literature
Should I be top damage as Gun Ivy?
This seeker shit is serious...
Drifter is insanethe ult just wins a teamfight
>>537227301Yes, and to... entertain others...
>watch high level game>9/12 people have emblem, battlevest or bothknowing which items are broken as shit is like half this game huh
>>537227301why would she do that when she can summon the knights of the round to gangbang her
>>537227609they also keep fighting at 30% hp with those items
>green items... are le broken?Any other insights, genius?
How do you check your rank?I'm probably bottom of the barrel since I can't remember the last time I won, but I'd still like to know.
what's the best warden build? Flask spam? Ult? Mixed?
So Doorman is some sort of eldritch god who got bored of torturing humanity so he willingly became a wagie for a change of pace. Now he actually enjoys his job and gets annoyed whenever customers badmouths his service or his hotel. Kek Valve can really come up with the funniest shit.
>>537227609They call it "skill expression"
>>537227732gun
>>537227724green items are good yeah, but 9/12 is crazy
>Mina is the weakest hero in the game>nearly every match has someone playing as herSTOPFUCKINGGOONING
>Victors wields the gun with his shitty armIs he stupid?
>>537228108He needs the other arm to help kickstart his arm, and he can't do that on demand if he's holding a gun in it.
>>537228041i dread the day she gets buffed enough to get closer to 50~ winratejust be thankful she not the sniper lile vindictasniper + goth vampire would have made her a complete constant in every match lmao
>get games with phantoms and ascendants constantly>only emissary wtf is with the matchmaking
>>537228041I am 22-19 tho I will keep playing her
He's starting to click.
anyone else notice how caked up victor is
>>537206372I didn't see them, I would like to play in them!
Sticking yourself up someone's ass with your aura going is pretty much your best damage source. And when you have ult up you just need to eat the damage, spam batteries and stay on people. I think as people get used to him they'll stop wasting their ults on Victor. Not sure how viable a gun build is with him as he even scales his health regen with spirit
>>537226851Game shifted away from team fights a while ago, when they removed walker teleports and made rotations take much longer. People didn't really like the death ball meta. Now jungle also takes longer to respawn, and you get many more, smaller fights.Make sure you go to gank and kill when you power spike. Farm with a purpose so that you don't leave a bag if you die, know what items you need to get kills. Quickly farm in-between.
>>537217256Why did they turn my bully Papay into a gay jock? His new appearance doesn't suit his character at all, let alone his voice.
>>537228453Show build?
>>537228427Genuinely curious. How do you run her now.
>fell down three whole ranks playing nothing but minafuck this bratty elo vampire... i feel so drained now.
>>537228915I just follow eidos build but I dont know that its ideal, its just worked decently so far, I was skeptical about qsr but its good and mystic shot is a big one Im unsure of as well that I skip often, cultist I think is mandatory
I think Mina shpuld be able to use her ult while standing still and just let it fire as a cone in front of her.Also let Rake instantly proc Love Bites as a reward for being so close to the enemy.
>>537228645We played, it was fun. Hopefully they fill up faster next time
>>537227450Why do you have those ranked icons in there? I don't have 'em
>>537228041She's definitely playable but weak. I think the 42% is excessive from coombrains playing her and having no idea how to play her, as well as through going a gun build.
Alright faggots, has the golden age already passed, is it now, or is it yet to come for this game?
>>537229520even eternus players can't do shit with her, literally vyper tier
>>537229481I'd like to join a custom match bros. Just tell me when
>>537229398Jump, dash and immediately cast ulti. You won't go up in the air at least, only forward. Lets you hit patron this way, and if you have maxed out ulti with burn then that does a shitload of damage to objectives the same way it does to mid boss.
>>537229556Now Deadlock will slowly die again until the next batch if heroes.
>>537229556its still yet to come, I think this past 2 weeks have proven that the game can recover from its low points and valve is committed, the full release will have way more staying power. even a lot of the shitposting that has plagued the game the past year has kind of vanished recently so I think even haters are starting to believe
>>537229602Yeah no I have like 60 games on her in phantom/ascendant and she's not good. But she can contribute to a team that's already snowballing well. I'm just never able to turn games around as her.
>>537229707>>537229556legit this update convinced me that the game genuinely can blow up on full release/open betathe IP has the sauce it just needs proper progression and casual game modes to retain players
>>537229497Go to settings bruv.
>>537229520Coomers are better at the game than normalfag tourists, though. She needs buffs if the most dedicated players can't make her work.
>>537228808Because you retarded crackers are in love with this look. It's what you see all the time
Do we think Radiant Regen is worth it on Victor?It just feels so lackluster to me
>>537229937What the fuck are you talking about?
>>537229878seems like most dedicated players can't aim for shit, she does a lot of damage with her gun, almost like Drifter
>worst character of the patch is Mina who is the most undertuned and least thought out of the 6>Victor, Drifter, Doorman, and Billy has a perfect kit and matching aesthetic>Paige is support bait for ethots but decent regardlessPlease... Valve devs, if you are listening, unfuck Vyper and Sinclair, please.........
>>537229978>she does a lot of damage with her gunlol lmao
https://youtu.be/b8tWXHgzvoc?si=gjOYBiCpcClmTA77&t=43
>>537230102GET OUT OF MY LANE
I still find it funny that there is an open channel solely dedicated to shit talking the enemy team when your character gets a kill.
Does Victor's self damage trigger Spirit Shielding
>>537229878Is Mina ult broken? I thought it was supposed to track enemies? It kinda misses every shot for some reason. What am I doing wrong?
>>537230338bats go to anyone inside of the circle. it loses tracking when they break LoS or move out of the circle. keep them in the circle till the bats hit them.
>>537230042>Paige is support bait for ethots but decent regardlessthe vote artwork showing a tentacle made me assume paige was just haha page of a book she's quirky and summoned culthul stuff, but her actually pulling out the full suite of arthurian fantasy and paige also being page, the servant boy of a knight, gives her some pretty kino theming despite absolutely being the character for women to self insert into
>>537230553I see. I will keep prop clearance in mind. It seems like the bats should be able to go over objects but I guess not.
>>537226295>Has a free debuff remover
>want to try supporting again>mega doodoo retards that can't do any damageevery time
>>537230042>vyperyeah, needs a rework>sinclairi'd be fine if they want to fix his 1 it fucking sucksbut the 2 and especially 3&4 are all very strong
>>537229940idk my total healing for it was pretty low. You get a lot of healing just from jump startMight be better off just getting boundless spirit for the regen and jump start scaling as well as more damage.
How can we play a custom game together folks?
paige has to be the most unfun of the bunch>boring aoe spam kit with a 190s cd ult (gay ass stun btw)>boring design (muh books)>annoying to face with spirit vomit and supportcuckery
>>537231086Thats what im thinkingJust Mystic Regen on its own might be worth it for some lane sustain and early fights though.
>>537231807Artillery mage is comfy.
>>537231807>t. low test gonne player
>>537222070the only thing that doesn't have a lot of synergy in Ivy's kit is her two, and it wouldn't surprise me if the change it, but her other abilities are clearly aimed at making her a zoner. Besides, her skills being versatile and kind of all over the place is exactly why I love her. You can push lanes and fly away as soon as you barely see an enemy, you can buff allies for a fight, you can block stuns AND stun enemies with 3, and so on. There's always something she can do, even if she doesn't excel at anything
>>537230338It's like a funnel, the closer they are relative to you the smaller the focus and therefore the more centered your damage is. It's also pretty meh, would be better if you could get stacks by shooting objectives or jg camps.
>>537231540Sure I'm down
>>537232229calling me low test when you play the egirl support sissy is funny
>>537232693>t. low test gonne player
>phantom strikes you>presses 2 and 1>heavy melees you>half of your health bar gonehow do you respond?
Do you think they’ll go back to frank or re-recording all those lines just not viable for a preference like that?I think it’s just a better name for him. It’s punchy
it’s actually crazy how you are not allowed to carry games on anyone but infernigger and seveniggerIf you can’t 1v6 and overfarm, you are just subject to matchmaking rape
>>537232813half? usually im deadgod i hate billy
>>537232813luggage, bell, kill quip combo
Next up6 full reworks and remodels voted with 3 days inbetween
if I win a match, the game is goodif I lose a match, the game is shit and a failure
>>537224214I agree it’s good for heroes to release too strong than too weak. It’s a way for them to get a lot of fans that might stick with them after the nerfs.
>>537232907They're too afraid to nerf their favorite children. Warden has been instawinning every fight by pressing 4 for a year now.
welp, all the new heroes are out, time for the game to lose 80% of its playerbase in the next two weeks because there's no progression in this to keep people hooked
>>537232907>>537233040i want to think theyre just not touching them until the actual remodels/design polish starts
>>537232907I just had a game where I (Abrams) was playing with my friend for his first human game (he was Bebop), at the very start Paige fucks off from my lane to play with her friend (Mina) so they triple stacked lane and at a certain point I had 20k when everyone on my team was 7k. We did well for a bit because 2 > melee basically killed everyone and I could 1v6 for a bit but eventually they just stacked health and we lost. Was fun though.
>>537232978>reworkshmm...shiv, vyper, calico, talon, sinclair, mirage. can't think of any other candidates for a rework.
>heard Victor is broken>>>get Victor on my team>>>>>>>>>>>it's a feeding retard that managed to feed the starving 0 4 Drifter back to 12 4.
why havent they reworked and remodeled the characters with existing dogshit models and shiv dagger kits yet? they're so much worse than the new characters its funny.
>>537233151Victor WAS broken, he's already been giganerfed into uselessness.
if mina is bad then why does she make my penis feel good? Checkmate retards.
>>537233263>ABLOOBLOOBLOO I CANT PRESS 3 AND JUST WALK TO THE ENEMIES AND WIN ANYMORE
>Vyper is creepily yandere obsessed with Lash, implies she has smelled him while he was sleeping>1 is a shiv dagger instead of a tail slam to replicate Lashi sure hope the Vyper rework is just waiting for her model to be complete.
>>537219202retard here, I like the cloaked run and the low-cooldown disable.
>>537233359she slithers/slides around, how would a tail slam work with that kit?
>>537233530scales with distance slid instead of height
>>537233115the worst part is that you can’t help underfarmed macrolets who just take zero objectives and feedAt least the spirit hypercarries can use these cucks as a distraction. If you play a tank into it, your initiation is actually just wasted
>>537233583hmm would it end her momentum? so slide in, shoot head, end skirmish with tail slam for kill as a staple combo.
Trophy hunter on Victor? Thoughts?
how many more little buffs for mina ubtil shes in literally every game
>>537233706i was thinking if you hit max slide her tail visibly coils and applies a small stun as she constricts and ends the slide otherwise its just a small damage cone
>>537233359Wouldn’t a tail whip make more sense?
>>537233768Every buff should shorten her skirt by a tiny amount
>>537233880i guess but only if she calls it the tail lash and dedicates it to Lash
>4k souls behind and 0/5/0I can't even try to farm without getting killed, what should I be doing? I'm not overextending, I'm getting hooked by Bebop and then 1v2'd
>>537233995scratch your ass and go next, there's no counterplay against two retards in a discord VC roaming together and ganking people since they removed two lanes.
>>537233970Lash already uses a whip and whipping someone is give them lashes. Work on your English
>>537233805sounds interesting, would be a good 2 if they just wrap the dagger + venom into one ability
>>537234118>whipping someone is give them lashes. Work on your Englishwas this on purpose
>>537234118>whipping someone is give them lashes>work on your englishnta but lol
I think the devs have gotten a good feel now about ability design in 3rd person.I expect the old heroes to get a ton rejigging especially the ones with a generic grenade and dagger.
>>537228807>teamfighting and deathballing isn't metaSomeone inform the sub-Eternus lobbies then, cause these gorillas keep trying to perma deathball non-stop.
>>537233737i like trophy hunter but i think he farms well enough on his own to not need it, it delays infuser too much
>>537233995>4k behindthat's nothing, sit on a lane behind mid, or ask your teammates to take jungle with you in a group so you're safer
Mina is a literal mmr vampire! Thousands of gallons of pure elo down the drain and into this bratty blood-sucker's mouth, and she still hungers for more!
>deathballing isnt the metait is when your retarded teammates keep going in one by one to die over and over again and feeding the enemy infinite souls
Victor is EASILY the strongest of the new heroes
>>537224258>>537226505You have to gank with purpose. If you get a kill, order your teammates to push guardian with you. Or ask them to take the enemy lane's jungle. If you're just getting a kill, there's no point, but if you're getting a kill and taking resources from the enemy, then it's valuable.
>moving all the way across my mousepad doesnt even do a full 180Do I need to increase my sensitivity? Get a bigger mousepad?Right now my sensitivity is 0.6
>>537234658bigger mousepad, change your mouse dpi
This shitter crutch feels so good. I'd probably get more results if I was a faggot that plays negroids like Infernus, Wraith or Haze but I can't be arsed to play those gross things.
>>537233040I have been giving feedback on how broken Warden's Last stand has been since the start and there's barely any nerfs on that shit. That thing cannot be 10 seconds in duration while also 400 dps with GT's movespeed pre nerfs.
>>537234712you only think they're gross because you don't have the aim to play them
>>537234697dpi is 800Too low?
>>537234743It can when you can literally just walk away from it.
>>537226295>Infernus retard
Ok I haven't played in a while. Mirage was the new hero last I've played.How much has the game changed besides all the new characters?
>>537234845Most people play on 800-1600 dpi, so that's fine. Definitely an issue of needing a larger mousepad. I recommend one of benQ's mouse pads cause they're fuckin huge
>>537229084sex with mina
mcniggus is such a retarded character, why do her turrets have a guaranteed lifespan, can exist away from her, and your damage doesnt matter against them and they can also apply on hit spirit procs.
i like this game a lot but i can't wait for there to be actual matchmakingan eternus player got into my seeker match and it went exactly the way you think it would
>>537234836I think they're gross because they're black. I'd just build the same shit on them too if they weren't.
>>537234972buy monster rounds
>>537234945there are three duo lanes instead of 5 now and the mid buff is unstealable and completely useless now, Ivy was taken to a mason against her will and made even more attractive to human men
>>537235043ohcarry on then
>>537234880what part of GT's pre-nerf movement speed did you not understand
Why is it nearly September of 2025 and Infernus still cuts down 1/4th of your Spirit damage just by shooting you a few times?
>>537235051monster rounds dont work on her turrets
>bro just buy this shitty t2 item that can't be upgraded, that will surely stop the 10/0 Infernus I love how the item shop has become a noobtrap and retards just keep giving out bad advice as a form of gatekeeping.
>>537235183your toxic bullets? your spirit burn? your crippling headshot?
>>537235126apefernus just has a stupidly strong kit that the devs never touch, he has so much lifesteal that he's invincible even with healing reduction and if he's ever in trouble he gets a free escape button that will melt you if you follow him. you cant buy debuff remover because it takes .5 seconds for him to reapply anything.
legit how are these niggers up like 10k souls out of nowhere where does it come fromis perma sitting in lanes solo the way to go?
>>537235061>mid buff is useless Noob? It’s the strongest it’s ever been. Instant on the spot respawn allows you to finish easily It’s just more easily wasted by retarded low rank teams
>>537234560Sauce
>>537235295Did you not hear? Deathballing isn't the meta anymore.
>>537235295>wait for wave crash>clear>kill 1-2 jungle camps, pick up boxes>back to lane for wave crashrepeat
>>537235295They freeze waves + steal sinners inbetween
>>537235332mega creeps is more useful than your retarded billy running in solo and dying two times in a row and wasting one of your three revives
>>537232237>There's always something she can do, even if she doesn't excel at anythingThat's the exact reason they fucked Lich up in Dota, so I guess you're right, I'm fully expecting them to casually rework her to death now.God damn it I don't want her to change, I love my 60% winrate gargoyle wife how she is
>>537235229woh woh woh, I thought all I needed to buy was healbane? You want me to invest EVEN MORE slots into countering a single hero? Fuck off nigger.
what ifwhat if Ivy wore Paige's outfit?
at a certain point you find it more fun to ruin the aperfernus and seven's round by buying nothing but spirit resist and healing reduction items than you do winning the game as you know the person playing them is used to the crutch
Huskar function?
why are all the new heroes that are good close range guys that want to be up your ass and the worst character in the game is the mid/long range poker? Are the devs retarded?
>>537235473pray to god that the infernus' teammates are retarded. That's the only time I lose at Dashfernus.
>>537235771I think that's the opposite of retardation because it encourages both participants being able to play the game against each other instead of one being locked out
>>537235771The less aim-dependant this game, the better.
how often do the sinner's boxes spawn? should i be looking for them/neutral creeps whenever the lane is pushed?
>>537226098kill yourself, pajeet. not everyone shares your rancid shit standards.
>>537235771vindicta and gray talon are legitimately mistakes in the development of this game
>>537235295Timing. What >>537235401 said. Make sure you don't miss waves
>>537235871have you tried playing this game with a victor or billy on top of you? It's still pretty locked out
>calico doesn't have the weird turrets or vertical/horizontal shots >generic grenade/swipe/mobility kithuh
Now that the dust has settled.Rate the update overall bros. From visuals to all six heroes to even the aesthetic overhaul.
>>537235575That'd be nice
>>537235974>play on a roof>play back>play around cornersdamn now neither of them can ape at you
I miss the four-lane map1v1 was more fun until a fag came to gank
>>5372360921v1 matchups were way more volatile and character dependent than 2v2 and made some matchups literally unwinnable
>>5372359868/10>visuals and aesthetic overhaulFantastic, nuff said. Map looks beautiful now even unfinished>new heroesMostly good. A few were (or still are) too strong but in general they've got great kits and visual designs in concept and are fairly well balanced already
>>53723598610/10 simply because it's the update that got me into the game and I'm addicted. I tried it for like an hour prior but it never clicked.
Warden feels outdated in his kit against the new characters but also his shield is based since they’re all building spirit
>>5372359869/10This unironically convinced me that Valve has potential gold in their handsNow I'm fully in on Deadlock as an IP
>>537222309I don’t think it’s an item worth farming for but it’s really useful for both Lady Geist and Viktor
>>537235986mina: 3/5. not my cup of tea and not a character I'd ever play, but she's clearly popular and a big hit with a majority of the playerbase. doorman: 5/5 kino incarnated into a kit. would like to see some slight buffs since it feels like the devs kept a sharp eye on his strengthpaige: 3/5. see minadrifter: 4/5, sleeper hit of the kit, love his ult in particular and don't feel like the playerbase have really caught on to the real strength of the character yet. still want a unique M2 thovictor: 4/5 - can't say much, haven't had a chance to play him, but visually he's great and the nail gun makes me excited to play him.billy: 4.5/5 - great addition. I love the feel of his SMG and doing melee stuff is always fun with this character. I really like feel billy's mold will set the stage for the future
>>537236372It's undoubtedly a good item, but the problem is that if you buy it as your first or second 6400 item it's like buying nothing because you still deal no damage to lifesteal from
being able to use melee items without the risk of getting parried is so strong, Billy being able to do it on a charge ability is even more insane
>another dead guy with lightning powersWE ALREADY HAVE SEVENWHY DID WE NEED VICTOR
>>537235986Needs a few nerfs here and there, but the update has been 8/10 so far. I'd bump it to a 9/10 if I get to play Victor.
if you pick Lash and end up 0/8 or worse they should revoke your invitation to this game and ban you from playing it until it fully releases God knows when
>>537236603I AM ONNNNNNE WITH THE CURRENNNNNTTTAAAAAAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHHAAA
>>537235183It gives +7 spirit power which is greatMost of the most expensive items give 10 at best
>>537235986The visuals are fantastic and have made me completely 180 my doomer stance on deadcockThe voting system is great All the new heroes are fantastic and should serve as the template for kits going forward And Valve finally understood that attractive characters are important9.5/10
>>5372359868/10Drifter is a miss, Mina is great but they are really afraid of letting glass cannons have a cannon.
I wish they would bring back the concept of drawn icons, like they had in the leak or in the previous minimap. I think the 3d model renders are fine but they're missing something iconic like TF2's emblems
>>537236870>tiny eyelashyeah im fucking this bat thing
Oh lord, we were down 30k+ souls, and I was able to carry us back with Artic Beam + Escalating Exposure + Spirit Burn.Everytime I have fun on this character he ends up getting nerfed tho
Why is he so smug?
I keep getting good score lines with abrams but low damage.like 10-3-20 but low damage.also people keep trying to have me sidelane. should I be able to win duels on abrams?
>>537236870>Vindicta looking up nervously at her haloThat's a nice touch
Should items be visible on heroes like rings, necklaces or even guns?Imagine buying the glass canon and actually see your gun being made of glass
>>537234618you never played against drifter ult
>>537236985Would you not be, if you had reality bending powers and immortality?
>>537236974>discord overlayITS JOVER
>>537236985He already won in his head, he's just there to see how the coin falls
>>537237018work on your aim bubby
>>537237018Melee builds are always like this. Not a lot of damage but it leads to their death more likely
do we think valve will go back and change the old heroes a bit?like for example I feel vindictas crow and stake ability, after seeing these new heroes, need something more to them especially the shitty crow that you just throw forwardother abilities that I feel will get retouched>kelvins ice grenade>talons traps (maybe make then more 3 dimensional???)>vypers dagger>magicians hex>everything about calico>etc.like i know some of these just need a visual upgrade but still
>doorman's ultThis guy has the coolest stuff in his kit manPossibly new favorite character My only nitpick is that when you kill someone with his ult, their body reappears and they get ragdolled around the map. I think they should just vanish as visual effect of being trapped in the baroness.
>>537237172>kelvinhope he's deleted>talonhope he's deleted>the restdon't care
>>537237172Don't think so. Some heroes are just going to be less complex, its how it has always been in Dota. Some heroes have 3 paragraphs of text per ability, others press 2 to gain a shield and run fast. It's fine for both to coexist.
I know I should build Bebop’s bomb rangeBut investing in hook range is just too fun
>>537237229Based
>"Eternal" Night>lasts 7 secondsWho designed this bullshit?
If Mina bit my neck and started sucking, would I also turn into a pale dork that has to carry a parasol around everywhere?
>>537237172hex is a nice ability
>>537237334no you'd die or become a thrall, you have to drink a vampires blood to become a vampire
>>537234118
>>537233263What was nerfed about him
>>537236985>Fail the summon the Patron>Oh well, time to fuck off>Teleport back to the Baroness>Successfully summon the Patron>Get to slaughter more of humanityHe really doesn't have anything to fear.
>>537237321Cuz after he uses it he'll put you to sleep
>changed Geist’s 2 and put the silence on 4Man, 2 feels so worthless nowLike yeah it helps I guess but it just feels so gutted
>>537237263i mean yeah thats why i didnt mention heroes like warden, wraith, or hazebut you cant tell me that vindictas crow is fine to usei feel like there could be something so much better for that
>>537237364Mina can sell her period blood on OnlyVamps
>>537237450build gun and click on heads, her gun damage is absurd
>>537237492This made me wonder if vampires ovulate. Unpleasant thought.
>>537237492>Getting blood from a low-rank vampireThe absolute state of mortals
>>537237426The main thing is he takes 100% of the damage from his aura now instead of just 80%
>>537237509>gun geistFuck it, I’ll try it.
Vindicta's crow should have an alt ability where she can make it patrol abd area like a drone and dive bomb the first hero that enters it's line of sight.
I was thinking they could give vyper an active slither that lets her slide up walls and stuff, would be coolor maybe like, she can channel to paint venom on the ground, which can deal dot damage, and when she's on it, she can slitherand you can paint walls to slither up them
How come Doorman doesn't look like a door?
>>537237667it's kinda split but it's mostly gun, give this one a try
>>537237509>overcome her slow gun with items>overcome her slow movement with items >overcome her smal mag with items>overcome her lame dps with items >now you have a shitty gunner and if you miss a single shot at least 10% of the damage will be gone
>>537237672Honestly, it needs somethingLike what if instead of a skill shot or whatever, it flies directly at a player, and brings them to her like bebop’s hook, but knocks them down so she can step on them and it forces them to like her feet while she derides you haha
I HATE CLANKERS
>Mina: Is a better Mirage>Billy: Is a sidegrade of Abrams>Doorman: Will build entirely into bells and ignore portals>Drifter: Retardedly OP, regularly melts entire teams despite being a "loner killer">Paige: Character for women, smartgun primary and giant AOE spells so you dont even need to aim to play her>Victor: Abrams 2
>won 6 games in a row as paige>lose 6 games in a row afterwardsOH BOY I LOVE FORCED FIFTY
>>537237771yoshi needs to see this
>>537237734Thanks bro. Kinda shocked Knockdown is never in the optional stuff since it’s good for countering much of the roster
>>537237805Dynamo is a better MokrillLash is a better Holliday Haze is a better Wraith
>>537237714thats for the Janitor character
>>537237749>lame dpsIf you have consistent aim she out-trades most of the roster.
>>537237891How can you be wrong three times in a row, impressive honestly.
>>537237805>>Mina: Is a better Miragemirage is a mess of a character that was thrown together with a bunch of scrap abilities and yet he's still more interesting and performs better than mina ever will
I hope Priest is cool. I’d pick him every game if he’s more fun than Warden
>>537229556Funny enough, the thing that convinces me the most that Deadlock will be fine is the newest Dota update. The masses want items and levels. They NEED progression. Any time Dota does a content update the playerbase stays the same. This latest update that did nothing but add free items for playing games? +200k daily playerbase. When this game actually gets a carrot-and-stick on it it'll blow up.
>theres an infinite slide glitch on each side of the patrons facing the shieldsNeat
>>537237917oh right, you need a few more slowing items to actually be able to hit anything and then you gonna need more damage, oopsie you have no slots
>>537235986Mina: 5/5 aesthetic 4/5 gameplayI want to have sex with her and her kit was surprisingly fun, but weak.Doorman: 5/5 aesthetic 5/5 gameplayThe most kino character valve has ever madePaige: 4/5 aesthetic 3/5 gameplayI don't like support sluts and her design is a lil annoying but I won't lie that it's high quality and well done.Drifter: 3.5/5 aesthetic 4/5 gameplayI like the concept behind his aesthetic but needs work like on animations for his teleport throw and such. Gameplay is good, fun.Victor: 4.5/5 aesthetic 5/5 gameplayI don't really like the halloween theme but I really liked him for some reason. And his gameplay was surprisingly fun too.Billy: 3/5 aesthetic 4/5 gameplayFun bruiser that I like better than abrams, I don't like the punk aesthetic and think its a lil off putting but I enjoy his meta lines complaining about being solo ulti'd by dynamo and whatever so I bumped up his aesthetic a point.Overall the new characters are a step above the old ones and I hope to see all characters updated to be visually in line, as well as maybe a little more interesting. I understand we need some more vanilla characters but shit like warden is so plain.
>>537238094Work on your aim, friend.
Best part of the update is never seeing nigvicta again
I haven't won a single game today.I main mina btw.
Reworking Vyper's 1 to work like Sobek's spinning ability from smite would be cool.
>>537238181VVN, VER
McGinnis machine gun goes BRRRT. Split Shot my beloved.
>>537237571You'd rather drink Drifter's semen even if it weren't the Drifter and just a regular hobo.
>>537237805>>Mina: Is a better Miragedid not read the rest of your post, one of the most retarded takes ever posted in this general
How do I maintain a calm, polite and professional personality like the doorman?He makes me want to be a better version of myself.
>>537238181honestly they need to rework Vyper's kit as well, the 1 is daggerslop they put on every character they dont know what to do with and her 4 is dogshit and makes no sense, she's not a basilisk or Medusa.
what website do people use to see what ranks the opponents are
>>537238317Imagine that anyone being displeased with you could immediately destroy your livelihood. You are now a service industry worker.
Why is my sea captain character?
>>537238312Mina's mark is better than Mirage's and her ult does damage so she's automatically better than Mirage. The only thing Mirage has better is his gun and stun, his scarabs are dogshit.
>>537238431winning trades for free is dogshit?
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GyT1hoKWPa8>Paradox is fully confirmed ScottishANOTHERFUCKINGGINGERWHERE ARE THE BLONDIES
>>537238431no need to keep posting, your opinion was already discarded as you have retard tier understanding of the game
>didnt play tonight because friends wanted to play dota>frank and drifter hot fixed nerveshaha, man im not surprised about frank, but maybe because every game with drifter I've played people camp the shit our of him and gang rape him whenever he leaves lane. Also his ult only effects 2 people which seems like a major oversight.
>>537238490>umm YOU'RE RETARDEDalright nice rebuttal kidd!!!
>>537238483Paradox seems like one of the few heroes not intimidated by Seven or Drifter.I hope they fuck.
How should I be building Sinclair to not bottom out in damage and kills? I've been maxing Spirit and slinging bolts, and it feels fun but then I look at my stats and they're terrible
Paradox enacting forced bi on Seven and Drifter
>>537238483paradox and holliday my wives
>>537238181smite is melee focused what would be the point of small spin pushing enemies aside?
>>537237629Who cares, you lower the damage by grabbing spirit resist anyway
>>537237172Sinclair is getting entirely reworked for sure. I would bet that so is Vyper. Disgusting Hopoo abominations...>>537237285No, you do invest in hook range.
>>537238483>I don't have to explain myself to you>I'd settle for you explaining it to anyoneI'm howling god damn
Why do I feel like the twist about Paradox is that it's literally all the same person just cloned endlessly by tine power bullshit.
How do we know Victor was by hotpoo?
Imagine being that lash
>>537238912he was completely and utterly broken beyond belief
>I'm trapped is someone else's bodyWait guys is Victor a tranny? I thought you said trannied like Pagie and Doorman
hotpoo needs to stick to making nonhuman women, no one wants to play some twink frankenstein.
>>537238986Did you not see his zipline animation?Hes trooncoded
>>537238918>that low objective damagejust as useless as the rest of his team
>>537237139my aim is pretty bad. I'm definitely not carrying, idk how my score is so good.>>537237162
>>537238986
>>537238483Shouldn't she be called McParadox from now on?
>>537238918I played a Lash game earlier where I went 20/1/19 but it's gutter MMR so it isn't much to brag about. Nothing is more fun than balling out of control with Lash. Wish I went deathless.
>>537238431>minas mark is better than miragemirage mark does 20 x 12 damage at max marks which is 240 spirit damage. Minas does 90 and if you proc twice that's 180 which is about the time it takes mirage to get full stacks.Mirages mark scales at 50% of spirit to base damage while mina is 1.5x her spirit, so at 100 spirit and same situation above. mirage gains 600 damage and mina gets 300.
>>537238483It is genuinely weird how Deadlock has so many gingers. It's literally one of the rarest hair colors in the world.Yet we have zero blondes besides maybe Geist.
At this point what can be done to try to stop retards from going full mid and forcing pointless fights? make kills worth less souls the more people are involved? punish damage/ health regen the longer you stay in another guy's lane at early stages? do what league of legends did and give all of these 1-digit IQ niggers their own containment zone like ARAM?
>>537239214mirage's mark takes forever to apply because it's arbitrarily time gated and minas can be applied in a second so her mark is stronger.
Hear me out /dlg/, a juggernaut character whose "omnislash" scales off gun and works as mccree's ult.
>>537239293pick a ricer and enjoy your farming simulator
>>537238483Listening to this and I'd completely forgotten that Paradox is an organization composed of RICH people, per her own words. So it's not the usual Robin Hood cliché and can't be used for anti-capitalist messages from redditors.
So like when my team is 5 deep doing pointless mid fights how do I resist the pressure to join them?
>>537239340I mean by that logic mirage is stronger because he gets his on first hit everytime.
>enemy lane>controlling the high ground>using abilities on cooldown>parrying the tower to dive>double jumping to get angles to shoot>my lane partner>standing on our high ground and behind our guardian>failing to last hit souls>not using abilities>0 hero damage
>>537239481Mirage's first mark is weaker than Mina's mark so no.
>Became fully invisible with Mina>Nobody could see me, not even myself.>Press 2 out of habit>Bug fixedFuuuuuuuuuck
>>537239553>doesn't even reveal people on the mapVirgin mina chad mirage
what's wrong with my build?category 4 I'm not sure about all the items in there.
>>537239550I was rusty and played bots for like 5 games or so and was shocked when real players dont even fucking attempt to parry and my new mmr.
>mirage when he puts his mark on you after you killed him
LEAKERS JUST CONFIRMED THAT PRIEST WILL BE SHADOWDROPPED ON SUNDAY MORNING
>>537239746way too few early- mid game items, too rigid (you need stuff for cc heavy lanes etc)
>>537239746Good but not sure about Kinetic Dash, might be better investments to make with 1600 souls, such as Fleetfoot. Fleetfoot will let you do Heavy Melee Cancels, speed up your rotations and speed up your chases.Consider Bullet Vest, really favored item in high ranks at the moment. Berserker could also be in the build.imo Phantom Strike is definitely not "optional" category, it's a core mid-to-late item. It's far too good to pass up.
>First game on Drifter>Just hold W on everything and everyone regardless of how fed I am>Spam 1 over and over>Endlessly run people down because of my 2 >Spam melee because it doesn't matter if I get parried>Most damage on my team by farBravo Valve you added a hero even more cancerous, braindead, and overpowered than Seven, Warden, and old Shiv
>>537239976I had phantom strike as first item in Late but I moved it down because I needed more practice with Abrams and the item. I think if I enabled quick cast on it it would feel better to use.I'm also not sure what the combo is, probably phantom into charge? because I don't think I can phantom while charging.
>>537240058He's the pyro of this game if pyro did 3x more damage. Pure W+M1 cancer. Or S+M1, because no one can catch up to you while you pelt them.
>>537238785Applies bullet resist reduction Simple, learn to think for yourself lil bro
>>537240116You're not in position to act smug if you're Shite fan.
>>537240089Have it on INSTANT cast, dummy. If you do, the item's icon will automatically show up on any enemies that it can be used on.The combo is Phantom Strike to Shoulder Charge and activate Siphon Life while you charge them to a wall.
>>537240110He's also another example of retarded hero design in this game, he can do EVERYTHING just like the other heroes I mentioned. There's no real drawback I guess from no get out of jail free card but that's a joke when warp stone exists and realistically a hero like him would never even need to escape. Tanky, high damage, great teamfight, etc why are certain heroes just given literally everything? Why would I play Haze or Mina for example when their effective damage is far worse AND they're glass cannons? I just don't get what they're thinking with balance sometimes, I like the update otherwise but come the fuck on bro
>>537240089>>537240227Oh, and important to note, that while you are in your charge, hold down your melee button all the way through. This will ensure that you will do a heavy melee as soon as physically possible the moment your charge ends. This ensures that you get the guaranteed heavy melee that they won't have time to react to.As long as you have T2 of Shoulder Charge, you can get a heavy melee off without the risk of getting parried. Until that, you can only get a guaranteed light melee.The only way an enemy can counter the guaranteed heavy melee is if they have both Debuff Reducer + Spellbreaker, iirc. And Duration Extender PROBABLY counters them (never tested).
Tried getting Lightning Scroll on Mina today, in theory its kind of nice - you ult a group of people, they're all silenced, slowed, lose 1 stamina and get stunned for a second. On practice? Its alright. I think it could be horribly obnoxious if you have a more coordinated team to play around it, i guess.
fix kelvin pleasei want to be white frozone without dragging my team down
>>537240493no he should be dogshit, his kit is way too powerful for him to be strong
>>537240181>I like less things than you hahak?
>>537240414oh that's the trick, yeah I thought the +2 just gave it to me, but then I got parried out of it and I was confused. I guess I need to queue up the punch during charge.
>1600>1 slot>nothing in return
>>537240721actually it boosts the spirit power of an ability you choose and reloads your gun when you use it
>>537240721>DPS increase le bad
https://statlocker.gg/rank-distributionSort by monthly.It seems most people are deranking pretty heavily and this is even before the recent update, add that WITH the update and players returning and it's explaining a lot why matches feel so dogshit recently (yes even worse than the usual wahh matchmaking bad hysteria) I think they really should rework the system soon ideally not that ranked itself is important but just MMR in general because sometimes I get in red rank games that feel harder than my phantom games. I'm not making a claim I deserve to be higher than my rank or matchmaking is the fault for me losing or whatever I just think at this point it's obvious whatever system they're running is broken and players aren't at the rank they should be on both ends.
>>537240721this item is fucking crazy for lane pressure early and useful the entire game btw
Ok niggers you can't tell me this one is also good somehow, it does nothing
>>537240834the lower my rank gets the harder the games get.my rank is so low right now that I'm taking the time to learn new heroes, but if I would just pick a simple carry like haze/infernus/wraith/seven, I would easily win every game.
>>537240721That item is what makes laning against Mo and Krill so insanely annoying
>>537240954Great for heroes with important, but low range abilities. Paradox swap, Holliday lasso, Geist lifeswap, etc.
>>537240954i build this second on geist
>>537241010NTA, but you could also just get literally any other ability range item ever. The ability range from Arcane Surge-- which you only get to have from wasting 2 stamina first-- isn't significant enough to pick it up over the main ability range item + Trophy Collector.
What's the trick to getting Victor? I keep getting fucked over by feeding teammates
>>537238986What a frankenstein monster stitched together from many body parts is upset that he's stuck in a body constituted from many different body parts? Oh my god.
Who wins here?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C0JuV9Je6pc
>>537240971This is basically the same boat I'm in, it's also fucking weird because the low rank games I get into are split into two camps, I'm either with literal brand new players against people that know the game slightly more so they have an advantage or I go against actual deathsquads that CONSTANTLY gank and play like they're a full stack of higher elo players (this is in for example ritualist lobbies) so unless these people are just stack abusing people are def way lower than they should be.
>>537241127>1600 souls and +1 stamina vs 3200 souls and no staminaare you rarted m8?
>>537241127>800 extra souls to upgrade my stamina which i get on most heroes to arcaneor>4000 souls for trophy collector + extra range
>>537236870this will be a cosmetic locked behind fomo paywallI hate Valve free-to-play business model
>>537241224>>537241250You're still on a net negative stamina-wise due to the activation requirement.
>>537241221Stack abusing + smurfing, half the people streaming this game will hop onto their smurfs to stomp lobbies once it gets too late to get decent eternus games
>>537241295>having to use stamina to improve the range of abilities you have to be next to the enemy to use is badoh man kinetic dash is so dogshit why would anyone buy that, i have to use 2 stamina to get 8 bullets wtfoh wait everyone buys it all the time
>>537241304>>537241221i wouldnt mind the smurfs and stacks as much if they werent whiny faggots. they stack together to stomp poor noobs and if you arent playing like their eternus buddies they just bitch and act passive aggressive, what the fuck do they expect when theyre intentionally playing with worse players?
>>537241205McGinnis is a fatty self insert
>2/8 victor suddenly starts nuking everyone who doesn't perform social distancing while being unkillableSeems fineThey had to finish this update with the last 2 characters being completely broken huh
man, seven really fucking hates kelvin
>Mina's bites need 7 shots or 5 headshots to proc between 0 and 25 meters>After 25 meters the requirements jump to 8 and 6 respectively >At 30 meters that becomes 10 body shots or 7 headshotsI don't get it, if they want to buff mina why don't they just buff the proc range?Make it more effective at close range or just lower the requirements at medium range. Her kit is fine as is, it's just the bulk of her damage is inconsistent to get off during a fight.
MOMMY GEIST IS THE BEST MOMMY GEIST IS THE BESTMOMMY GEIST IS THE BEST https://youtu.be/jcaZmvzFH0M?t=185
>>537241127You have to have 15 assists to make trophy collector have the same range as arcane surge, if you think they are equivalent in anyway you may actually have brain damage.
>>537241640God's gift to combat line is good.
Victor looks kinda goofy with a gunHe should go full emperor zap zap
How dogshit is Victor now after getting panic nerfed 8 times in a row?I wanted to play him in general but if he's bottom of the barrel just to not be op that's lame.
>>537241802He farms well and his ult will never be bad, no worries.
Ivy is so cute I genuinely want to main her just for that ngl
>>537241802Bro he was one of the most broken character in the game the first 3 hours
DO I NEED TO BUY GLASS CANNONWHAT DO YOU WANT FROM MEHOW DO I MAKE MINA DO DAMAGEAAAAAAAA
>>537241893land your shotsrake low health niggysbuy siphon bullets
>>537241726Yes.
>>537241893surge a power boundlass spiwit and uhhh uhm
>>537241893what you need to buy is kovaaks
Gut Mirage, Drifter, Nigfernus afterburn, Warden, Seven, and Wraith ult CDAdd back casual queueMake mystic regen not proc after a certain range (so cancer heroes like Mirage can't cheese)Make early kills more rewarding or buff guardian rewardMake kills give less souls the more players involved (after 2)Make eshift 3k againBuff fun items like trophy collector Wa la! Game fixed.
>>537241640>Vyper is actually hitting on LashWtf I thought it was just a meme
unless you're playing bebop or mo and krill, the answer is always to aim better, no matter what the retards here tell you
>>537217256>>537217464>>537218936
jabroni twink pocket vs gachimuchi lash
>>5372359866/10Still too tryhard
>>537242194Or just play a hero you shit out damage on while needing to barely aim like Drifter or Warden
>>537242243i look exactly like pocket does in this irl except i have a treasure trail
>>537242393
>>537241640>You smell even better when you're awake>YFW no stalker murderhobo snake woman GF
What's up, ketchup? I've got information from a reputable source that League of Legends has a higher monthly revenue than Deadlock. Why don't you stop running around New York and stop by Summoner's Rift?
What's the counter to hackers? I got headshot 6 times and died before I could get in range to cast disarm
>>537242518
>>537242243I don't think THE LASH would swing that way.
>>537242552this dog looks like he handles haze's paperwork
Is there a way to check which builds are actually good?I'm trying to learn Pocket and Doorman and I swear half of these builds are made to fuck with people
>>537240493Play gun kelvin and trap a nigger in the dome, guaranteed kill.
>>537230102>haven't played in months>haven't been to general in months>decide to check>scroll down and stop randomly on this post, my old mainthe spirits are talking to me...it's time to play chief prepping bull
Someone in the previous thread asked for this molester mina build. It rapes
>>537242692The Lash will do anything to prove he's better
>>537240493Look up KARRY KELVIN>>537240834yep I deranked two entire divisions because of trying out a bunch of new characters.
>>537242714Parzelion has a good build for Doorman, he's pretty straight forward with how you build him. Only mixup from the standard I can suggest is perhaps picking up alchemical fire it's good for if you stun with 3 or ult someone. QSR early on his bell also isn't terrible.
nerf this gay ass item
>>537242996I definitely foresee that. Too good, too applicable. No idea why it even gives spirit resist. And the fact that the slow is 4 seconds is crazy.
>>537241640who tf wrote all this shit
>>537242884>>537242393>>537242243>>537241932There are so many sexy females in this game, but all you do is gaylock.
We need more fuckable men and women.
>>537243189would sex every woman in the game
>Least in popularity >Greatest in strengthThe spooky alliance stands strong brothers
>>537243174Post Sexy Geist
>>537241893you wait until she gets buffed or install aimhacks
>>537242981Thanks my nigga :fire:
>>537243259drifter's pupils look like hearts
>>537243248
>>537243102Ew. The gut on Lash seems accurate to his old model, but I'm glad they removed that from the new one and gave him a proper V shape
I can't take it any more, it doesn't matter if I win my lane if some retarded McGinnis feeds the enemy Haze and Seven so much that they're 20k souls above me. How do you win this shit
>>537243596Be a man
>>537235967sniper characters in hero oriented games are a mistake in generalso unfun to play as, so unfun to play against
>>537243596Play a hero that counters Haze and Seven
>>537243259IDK about that one chief
>>537243774>billy lash lane at that rankyeah it was doomed from the start
>>537243774seems like you were the weakest link
>>537243739i can only hope they continue to keep them both in garbage trash tier where they both belong
>>537243774Sorry to tell you anon but you are the shitter.
Debating between this and Marvel Rivals, which should I install?
>>537217256show me her penis though
>>537243596>Feeds the enemy Haze or SevenNo if the game was actually decent it'd be this way the reality is that those players just sit in a lane until they're 10k above everyone then just shit on the lobby, actually punishing this shit in soloq is near impossible as well, everyone is way too passive to invade jungle or even push up wave to walker. The amount of times an enemy is even doing something as ballsy as freely taking our jungle next to base basically right next to my teammates and they do NOTHING about it is appalling.Shit a lot of the time a winning lane can contribute to this problem because they'll do something like stomp lane then go do a failgank or take jungle that's far back away from everything instead of capitalizing on their win.
>>537230778>reapplies healbanewhat now corpseboy
>>537243956Are you communicating with your team? I haven't had any problem when I order people around, either pushing or invading.
>>537243917Marvel Rivals mogs the shit out of this valveslop garbage, but I suppose you could play this for few days before it goes back to sub 6k players
what the girls doin'
>>537244001This only works like a quarter of the time
>we're pushing into enemy base>Lash ults 4 of us and they start turning it around on us>we manage to escape back out of their base>I turn around as the enemy rounds the corner out of their base>active Split Shot>proceed to insta-melt the 3 people who were chasing us with Split Shot + Ricochet + Lucky Shot>watching all 3 healthbars instantly melt down into molten slag and 3 kills just instantly pop up on my screen was just a hit of pure dopamineAlmost nutworthy not gonna lie. God I fucking love Split Shot. Item singlehandedly made Gun McGinnis go from unplayable dogshit-- even in the MMR trenches-- to my favorite build.
can someone kill this disgusting tumblrerite nigger
>I want your soul You have 3 seconds to stop her, what would you do?
>>537244001>>537243956I have communicated with my team, I communicate all the time and most of the time, I'm the only one communicating. I can't really punish an invade in my jungle because no one responds to my request.
>>537244160i cum again
>>537228808why are you using an old leaked portrait for the comparison
>>537244160I'd scream "mommy no"
>>537240390>no get out of jail free card>he doesn't knowyou can use your 2 on friendly towers
>>537244160*Counterspells*
why is split shot so rare
>>537244416it's actually not very good if you can aim competently
>>537244160I am soulless
>>537244160Imagine she uses your soul to remove wrinkles on her boobs.
>>537244502isnt it about hitting multiple people at once
>>537243842>>537243894Oh I absolutely got shit on in lane, I couldn't do anything and got denied constantly, spent the time trying to catch up and failed to do so, for surebut those fuckers ended guardian phase with 13 deaths between them
>>537244234>remake is worse than the original
>>5372359868.5/10
>>537244416It's merely a crutch for shitters who can't laser beam people like some kind of sweaty-- aka me. Otherwise people who aim perfectly get more value on gun characters out of other items. Sub-Eternus shitters actively think they are god's gift to the Earth, only build whatever is in a build someone else made or only build whatever says the biggest pp damage numbers on them. They don't even know Split Shot exists. And that's a good thing. Cause if more shitters knew about this item it'd get gutted and I don't want my toy taken away.
>>537244664yes but it's not very good at its job considering people will not be lined up in a way that makes it feasible to do so 90% of the time
>>537242393>line was re-recorded to replace bluey with blue boydid they get in trouble?
>>537244664No, lmao, that's what Ricochet is for. Split Shot is to land more of your shots in general on a single target due to the wide fan of bullets you get with it. Split Shot + Ricochet is when you start tearing down multiple people at once. And the rare times you hit more than one hero with Split Shot itself just make it even better cause that's twice as much Ricochet bouncing around between enemies.
>>537244160>I'M NOT GOING DOWN WITHOUT A FIGHT>*echo shards*>I'M NOT GOING DOWN WITHOUT A FIGHT
>>537244160I slap her with my umbrella and turn into a swarm of bats
>first time picking Drifter>doing really, really bad>well behind in souls, don't know when to pick fights>start farming>teammates yell at me for not helping with nearby fight>go to nearby fight>die>"yeah you were not gonna take that"I'm new and I don't have any game sense and this game makes me feel like a fucking idiot who's never played a video game in my life
>>537245361ignore teammates infact disable communicationsyour team is out to get you and will sabotage you
Do you often change your Steam name? Don't you afraid your "friends" might unfriend you?
>Victor: He's Undying but ... hot okay?Is this the best the creative bankrupt mind of Valve can come up with?
>>537245469sars
>>537245626[dota hero but hot] cannot go wrong
>>537240390>>537240110drifter's shots literally stop existing after about 25 feet and his only tankiness is 4s of bullet lifesteal after his fully upgraded 1. he doesn't even have good movespeed unless its a 1v1. just zone his ass out>but his teleport skillshot with a 20s cooldown bro
>>537245361Don't play Drifter. Unfinished, poorly designed hero that teaches you close to nothing. He's W+M1, the Pyro of Deadlock.Also try some bot games. Most of all put it all into learning the map, learning the movement, how to rotate fast. Then watch Youtube videos on how to stay ahead in lane and in souls.>>537245626You think he's hot?
>>537245640Good morning!
Wait a sec Victor is more The Nameless One than Frankenstein's momentMorte hero when?
>>537245361seven is the most braindead easy starter hero
>>537245724What is a good hero to pick if I want to learn Deadlock fundies?
>>537245626I am pleasantly surprised that only two of his abilities are 1:1 copies of Dota's heroes
>>537245626>Pugna but a loliICEFROG HIRE THIS MAN
>>537245864McGinnis >best gun>healing>spirit you can try any of these basics and see how they work
I don't think I've played a single weapon build hero since starting playing again, spirit seems to have just gotten strong as fuck and everyone just builds spirit.Who should I try that builds weapon other than Haze?
>>537245864Unironically Abrams, Dynamo, Infernus or Seven.Abrams specializes in tanking, sustained fights and CQB. Dynamo specializes in utility, support, healing and turning the tide with the use of an extremely powerful but long cooldown ultimate. Infernus and Seven are simpler M1 carry heroes with versatile abilities.Check the build browser and find a decent popular build.
>just use your ult on objectives>ult a walker>does 20% ohwouldn't a gun character have done just as much without dumping a 2 minute cd?
>you can still play a custom game with bots or frens even if you're bannedThanks VALVE
>>537246104You need maxxed ult on Mina to do crazy obj damage
>>537246104walker damage is walker damage
>>537245361your teammates know even less than you do, if you don't have the items to fight, don't fight
i wish eternal hellfire and visions of their mothers being raped on every single teammate I've had in the matches that I've lost
>>537246204>still can't type anything in a custom game lobbyYOSHIIII
>Mina and Paige want him>Ivy asked him out for dinner>Geist was even nice to himHOW IS THIS POSSIBLEWHY DOES VICTOR GET ALL THE GIRLS
>>537246845Handsome, shirtless and fixable
>>537246845>8 feet tallmanlets can't compete
>>537246845He is the protagonist ... the titular Deadcock
>>537246845He will somehow connect all the stories, mark my words
>>537224440Because art has died pre-WW2, art deco was the last dying gasp of human creativity. Now its all different shades of reinventing or denying the civilized culture built and perfected by Western Europe.Even skyscrapers can be made beautiful but aesthetics have been pushed aside in favour of economic viability and optimisation, huge mistake.
its pretty impressive how well under the radar billy is thanks to drifter and victor
>>537245724>Unfinished, poorly designed herocope
>>537246845talldarkhandsome
>>537246845Simple>White male>Long hair(but not in a gross way)>Jacked>8 ft tall>Unkillable>Physically fixable
so in the end, victor was a pleasant surprise
>>537247010>Victor is actually the real son of Fairfax who got assassinated>Part of him was Paige's brother>The creator of Victor also animated Ivy by accident>Geist being a nice granny to Victor because she knew him when he was a kid
>>537247303i think he's cool but he was way overtunedglad I got one game in before the nerf
Victor is very fun and feels very strong, even after the quick nerf.Im scared that Yoshi is going to overnerf him and make him unplayable because pub shitters will complain too much
>>537239746Its a melee tank build, its wrong by default
>>537246845it will be over when yamato or miku act nice towards him
>>537246845He's literally me.
>>537247427That cant be it because Billy is Paige's brother
>Another game where my team bitches at each other, all go negative, and the enemy team is highly organized playing like they're a stackSo was I expected to carry this or fucking what? How many more losses do I need before I get thrown a bone? Even the games I win I have to hard carry and sweat my ass off
>>537247775From my experience just now? 5 losses.
>>537247682Billy doesn't know Paige, according to their conversation.
>>537243174Valve PLEASE give us a buff hot Ixian woman for Abrams to finally have a ship that isnt gay, as god intended.Also lesbians get the rope, worse than fags
>>537247924Could be she changed that drastically since they were kids. Also, it's weird for him to call shakespear a middle english write
>>537244160Pocket sand
Why do I have illiterate teammates that don't understand "DRIFTER HAS AMPLIFIED DAMAGE IF YOU ARE ALONE".
>>537247775This game is a combination of FPS and MOBA, two genres with the worst, most toxic communities in gaming. You signed up for this.
>lane with faggot abrams teammate>stay back because we are low on health and in need of souls>he decides to go in 2v1 without any warning, dies and blames meI hate this fucking retards so much
>>537245852I don't think the chinese government would like that very much
>Buy Siphon, Toxic and Rend against a victor>Still do no damage pls nerf again
>>537247924Billy is a belligerent dickhead, what's stopping him from just lying because he hates his family.It makes perfect sense. Paige's family owns a magic book store and she has a brother that's described as rebellious. Billy/Bryce used the magic books for some kind of black magic ritual and gets cursed with the goat head then leaves on his own or his parents kick him out without telling Paige.
Other games the average game duration is usually short enough to suppress anger and "go next" but this game forces you to stick with other retards for 30 minutes
>>537248082I don't think Paige also changed her name
why cant this game just be a quick 20 min match type....
>>537248497it is, with bots
elephant rounds on victor, good or bad?
/dlg/, help. I had my headphones off like a filthy casual when I opened the game and I missed Victor's opening line. I also can't find a video about it on youtube without someone talking over him and I need to know what he said
>>537248558goodelephant funny
>>537248497make a post about it on the forums. Hopefully they'll add a quicker mode like ARAM or something once the player base is more stable, if enough people show interest in it
>>537248558badsouls spent on gun items are souls that cant be spent on greens and purples
won my first bot game :)
Infuser Victor is the worst! I hate it so much!!!
>was oracle 5>dropped down to arcanist 2 since i didn't play for months>now back up to emissary 5We're all going to make it.
Is Lash a good newfag hero or am I signing up to get raped
>>537249453Lash can solo save the whole game so no, start with McGinnis
>>537249453he's simple to understand at his base but has a lot of potential depthhonestly he's probably good for newfags, in the sense that you'll do well when you are new and everyone else is also a shitter like you but once the matchmaking improves he forces you to improve or start eating shit hard
>>537248380Billy actually just doesn't know her.
>>537244183don't you have a 30m cooldown?
>>537248762you give them the dose with victor?
we finna rip paige apart
why do all the female heroes (white) have puffy cheeked baby faces
>>537247427Him being made of parts relevant to other character's backstories would be cool.
i just realized this game has quick cast
6 million in a closed alpha sounds a bit inflated, no?
>>537250636yeah, there's 271k max
>>537250636every person got a ton of votes
>>537250636I don't even think the voting chambers could process that many votes.
It's really hard to pick a ability route for Victor, all of his t3 bonuses besides the ult are really good.3 is probably the best though for a spirit tank. Gives you absolutely everything you need, extra damage, extra sustain through lifesteal, faster farming. Its just awkward though because youre not incentivized to level your 3 too early since itll just end up killing you before your build starts coming together.
>>537250636The shopkeeper association will be hearing about your problematic behaviour.
how do I lane with Paige without getting everything denied? just hope I can melee shit? because even with the speed boost item for gunshots it's not enough
Rate my Victor build
Can you actually get banned in this game?I've been racially insulting a lot of "people" lately.
>>537251109Is cheat death + refresher really just a meme? I feel like it would be actually good
I love this game bros
>>537251215Its a memeSure you're basically guaranteed to never die but you'll be gimping your damage output. I'd only buy any of them if I already had everything else I wanted.Once you buy Infuser, you shouldn't be dying much anyway. The more damage you do, the more sustain you have.
>>537244183>Right where I WANT.
>>537251215thats an insane amount of souls to spend just to not die, youll be shittier in every fight and most of the time when you died you will continue to die
>>537251318Total Female Milfication
i wish gun victor was viable
>>537251109I want to say to put transcendent cd instead of another big item. It massively lowers the cd of EE and torment pulse.
Paige heavy melee should punch you with her tits instead
>>537252232Sorry doesn't work on EE*But pretty much any other item works. I wouldn't use spellbreaker unless the enemy has something like a Yamato or Grey Talon I guess.
>>537252421Spellbreaker is good against Lash, Doorman, Paradox and other big nukers like Holliday. It's a good item to have against a lot of heroes honestly. It's more DoTs like Infernus where it's not as useful
>pick a mina build from the browser>it doesn't feel good ingame>pick another build from the browser>it also feels bad>ask for help from here>get shitposting meme answers in returnso does nobody know how to build her?
been playing vic latelybeen called op hero in every match because the enemy team simply REFUSES to disengage and separate from me while i've got my aura activated. if they do that victor completely falls apart but i get the feeling they're just gonna nerf the shit outta him because he really seems impossible to properly balance in any non cordinated game. am i right?
>>537252714Buy ring of repick
>>537252714No, you're just playing her wrong.She ain't really a fighter, more like a "fuck you" character that sometimes stutters when pronouncing the words.
>>537250510Now you will also realize that it has instant cast and you should use it on everything that doesn't require careful aiming i.e. Mo ult and items
>>537252783He has the full strength that a fed aghanims scepter pudge has but without any of the farm necessary. He's easy to kite but his debuff remover that he can spam makes it hard to do so and you can't really ignore him like you would a similar hero so I understand the complaints
>barely any drifter nerfs>barely any victor nerfs>no doorman bell nerf>no mina buffs>no paige buffsdevs hate women confirmed
>>537252969that's what i mean. you're FORCED to stay away from him and if you've successfully disengage he falls apart but he's so fucking tanky that shit's hard to do and in a non-coordinated enviroment it's basically impossible, i mean, how many retards did you constantly see trying to fight abrams or shiv on melee range? so the only real solution would be to remove the debuff remover and the % heal on his first but without it his entire kit really just completely falls apart (not to mention would become one of the most boring ones in the game, he already doesn't have a lot of input necessary as is).
>>537252714fire rate+spirit power
>>537253127all of these have happened except paige buffs
>>537253127they nerfed victor like 6 times every other hour what the fuck do you want more?
>>537251796Shush nigga, cunny nation rise up
>like the idea of vyper and sliding around shooting shit>her entire kit is schizophrenic and dysfunctional>universally agreed bottom 1 characterrework this lizard
>>537253127>handsome male characters are strong>cute female characters are weakdevs love women confirmed
>>537253191>they nerfed victor like 6 times every other hourare you retarded
>>537253191I'd like him to be deleted from the game.After all, he did lose the vote every single time.
>>537253127They just know coomers will pick them anyway
>>537251109This spirit meta is so gay and retarded
>>537253348>sprint metamobility has always been meta
Is Paige just a better Dynamo?>Her 1 is a better harassing tool>Her 2 provides shields and firerate increase without having to go through a slow ass teleport>Her Ult is a much more forgiving team wide heal/damage/stun that doesn't leave you vulnerable and that usually will result in a won fight
>>537253390No.
>>537251109Infuser sucks manWhat is it like 7 seconds of healing?
>>537253390she's nothing like dynamoyou niggas just be typing shit fr fr
what are my most important items as pocket besides the active ice one and the jumping one?
>>537253596go home may poster
>>537252421Spellbreaker is undervalued imo and even better on Victor than other heroes, since he can make better use of the spirit resist and debuff resistance.
>>537251109Go full Melee you dummy, turn his third when in camps or pushing troopers rapid recharge and radiant regen are a must
>>537253596majestic leap so you can engage from above unseen, warp stone because it will save you, extra stamina because mobility on pocket is equal to health, cooldown reduction because your abilities both deal nuclear damage and serve as escape tools so you need them ASAP because getting CC'd = death
>>537252714SHES DOGSHIT BROWAIT FOR BUFFS
>>537253390Paige players are retards
>>537253596oh and also enchanter's emblem to counteract your inherent -15% spirit resist entirely, and cultist sacrifice because it's absolutely busted
>>537253485It's the I Win button for Victor. You will SHIT damage and heal to full instantly in team fights, it's ridiculously strong on him.
>enemy team picks Holliday>they're going gun build>instantly know it's a cheater because they went gun build at all below Eternus rank>he literally does not miss in lane, during scrambles/skirmishes/teamfights and headshots people 10+ times in a row even when they're moving as much as humanly possible
>>537253907>>537253824ty
>>537252421Spellbreaker is insanely good, theres Dynamo, Lash, Pocket, Holliday. Debuff res is a good addition on top of everything else too
>>537253390initiate post
>>537252714No, it's simply a matter of you simply don't play Mina cause she's absolute unplayable dogshit-- even with perfect aim cause if you have literally 100% perfect aim you'd unironically get more value out of fucking Gun Holliday or literally any other gun character in the game.
I overslept, so what's the verdict on Victor? Is he fun?
>>537253935VAC = valve accepts cheaters. What was the last time anyone in this game got frogged? Does this feature even exist anymore?
>>537254076the team that gets him instawins
>>537252714here you go
>>537254076He was pretty broken on release but got nerfed. Still broken tho
>>537254076I like him, fell underground in a bot game and kept doing aoe dmg at their spawn.
>>537253718Radiant Regen is garbage. Rapid Recharge is a meme.Radiant slows down Infuser which is vital. It also gives significantly less sustain than Infuser does. If Radiant procced off your 3 it would be good but since it doesnt then its not nearly as useful.
>>537254076Noobstomper. At high ranks his winrate is stable, low ranks don't know how to deal with him.
>>537254076Yes. As melee herohis first works from taken damagehis second can heal you a few timeshis third is aoe and he can't die = melee hero, retards who build full spirit or gun are retards
>>537254267You don't need a fucking Infuser it's trash, Radiant is just as strong and has no cooldown
>>537254417I've ran both for multiple games, Radiant heals for less than half of what Infuser does despite me buying it before Infuser, every single game.It's trash.
>>537254117Last time I saw frog was someone finding glitches as doorman in sandbox. No cheats at all.But at the same time I've heard less complaints about cheaters in general. I guess all cheaters fucked off to CS2 since Deadlock isn't as popular anymore thus can't get as much attention.
>>537254487>6s DurationAre you stupid? Or are you planning to win a taem fight in 6 seconds?
>>537217842that art is like a year old though
>>537254591Infuser is great for Seven and that's pretty much it
>>537223382Guess what happens when they send 1 person to defend the tower retard
>>537254591You dont pop Infuser at the start of the fight retard, you wait until you're around half health and the Aura's damage has built up towards the max.Infuser keeps you full health while your aura pumps out max DPS, which is even higher than normal because Infuser also gives you 30 extra spirit. 6 seconds is more than enough time.
>>537254980>10 meters aoe>6 second durationYou won't survive for long in a fight without Lifestrike, your build is just retarded. All his kit is meant for close combat, so build a fucking melee
holy FUCK i hate gooniggerssuch a dishonest nigger hero
>>537255215Dog his kit fucking sucks at melee aside from his 2 speed's boost. What you think his kit does for melee Giest does it better.
>>537255215So youre simply pretendingThats too braindead of a take to be authentic
>>537253935It's aim training bro.
>>537255352Melee Geist is also great, much better than Gun-Geist btw. >1st charges from damage, and fires in close range>instant regen>aoe>aoe >sucks at meleeur stupid
Fuck, I just know there's going to be Mina ritualposters at some point
>watching significantly higher player than me on youtube>their farming rotation is a bit better than mine but they blunder their abilities as much as I doI really think getting ELO trapped is a thing in this game
>>537255634All these "pro" players have a team with mics. They're also retarded and can't do shit on their own
who the fuck is this gay ass nigga diego being the most watched eng streamerwhere is mikaels
>>537255740Yeah this really is the biggest differenceDeadlock is kinda fucking unplayable when people don't talk, or not even ping on lanes/heroes/objectives
>>537255634play mo and krillshriek at the top of your fucking lungs on your mic when you're going to ultyou will win lane nearly every time
>>537252714if you are playing her as a carry you are just doing it wrongjust buy every single on-spirit debuff and get some fire rate so you can spam love bites and ult niggas
>be billy>initiate>enemy team dumps all of their ults on me>die>team cleans up afteris it worth the sacrifice of fun?
is the blademail item good in this game?
>>537256026I've fallen all the way down to seeker due to rank decay after taking a break + losing most of my matches when playing the new heroes, single target kill ults like Mo & Krill are not good enough for dealing with teammates with this bad of map awareness
>Mina - Mag size to 15>1 adds + 1 stamina on hitthere she's playable
>>537256274depends on the hero but yeah
>started buying knockdown every game as ivy>nobody buys debuff removeri wish i knew it was that simple to win teamfights. i can be anywhere anytime with triple stuns if i buy lightning scroll
>>537256184It's half the fun for meI can sit back, relax, watch the rest of the fight as we win it, and think to myself "I did that, that's ME"
>You can Etheral shift while Victors 3 is still up>Prevents self damage while still attacking enemiesI'll make this my first buy from now on
>>537256490Buy an echo shard and make it quadruple stuns
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/YxmNeqDduv4
I wonder if they'll nerf Paige ult, shit's kinda stronk
Every game I wind up with top damage on Geist while feeling like I did absolutely 0 damage
>>537256490CC team brawler ivy build with a million of stuns/CCs is extremely goodi used to play it a lot with arctic blast as well, you can lock some down in 1 place for like 4 seconds
>>537256798Because you don't actually kill anyone. It's useless damage that's getting healed back right after. Ask me how I know you bomb spam. Melee Geist can actually kill 1v1 and really IMPACT the game but your damage will be average
Spirit vs gun is just the MOBA faction vs the FPS faction
>>537256348i like how every /vg/ faggot's mina buff suggestion doesn't inherently fix her absolute dogshit weapon firerate, love bites requiring a billion hits to trigger, her weapon's abyssmal magazine size, her pisslow base weapon damage or her being the squishiest character
>>537254117I played against an infernus who ass raped us in my first drifter game, our lash got insanely butthurt because of feeding and afkd in the fountain for 15 minutes, then suddenly infernus gets frogged and we stomp them
>fleetfoot cancels heavy attackwhat the fuck why doesnt it mention that
>>537257431It's tech, it increases the skill cap.
>>537257018How do you play melee on a character that's slow as shit
>>537254520Cheating also only compensates for aim, not itemization or map awareness
>>537257217If her 1 was more usable without having to use your 2 just to get back to safety you wouldn't need to buff her bite acquisition rate
>>537257217I think her base weapon damage is normal if you add the on hit of love bites. If you wanted to buff her without normalizing her weaknesses they should make the tiny love bites hits apply on hit spirit effects, would be retardedm
So how the fuck do I counter Victor?pigs on my team just keep feeding him, it doesn't matter how good I play if my team gives him a 2x souls advantage over me
>>537257563That's the best part, they think you're weak, you lifedrain, slow them down, fleetfoot, bonk them two times and they're dead.
>>537257676I don't know yet because I've only played either as him where I shat on people or as Lady Geist against him where I just out dpsed and killed him so I'm not sure what the answer is. Just use toxic bullets and healbane maybe? He relies almost entirely on healing to survive for longer than half a second.
>>537257676there are multiple anti healing items.
>>537254689Little do they know, this is the concept art.
why is it that every game has the mandatory mid-game throw where we just lose a 10-15k gold lead and map control in an instant
>>537258012dotards turn everything into shit, it's crazy how 15 years later they still can't play moba
>>537257843Alchemist must be lovely this time of year
>>537256184>initiatethis is a meme, fights start through poking until the entire team is there so damage can be distributed and attention made divided. then you jump in, disrupt shit, get your guaranteed melees in, and THEN you start frontlining. until then unironically play like an assassin. especially on a hero like Abrams who can one-shot squishies, you don't want to be the first to be seen
>>537256686Holy fucking sovl
>>537258121>muh pro players always know when I hit them and when I don't Unless they have auto parry you'll be good
>>537257217I use 1 as an engage which is technically suboptimal since I'm missing on the missing health damage but it helps triggering love bites super quickly for a good burst before disengaging.
who's harder to aim withGeist or Mina
>>537258393Geist easily the worst gun in game.
>>537256686>shortsNah
>>537258393>>537258435What the fuck do you guys mean, Geist's gun is great.
>>537258435thats literally just wrong
new when
>>537258583Revolvershit feels like ass coming from any other gun in the game
>>537258762No.
>>537258435I bet you're the kind of retard who would say that spy's revolver in TF2 is bad
>>537258809Yes>Low RoF>Small clip>More punishing when you whiff>Small projectile >Have to land head shots just to do damage
Are they ever gonna make sinclair not look like a placeholder or is that just how he looks now
>>537258961Low rate of fire, accurate, high damage guns are the most satisfying for me to use, so that's a you problem.
>>537258994eventually yeah unless they decide to cut him
>>537259052we're talking about hard to use not satisfaction
Should remember not play during weekend day time. Peak shitter hours. How is it even possible to get a team that ends a 30min+ game with 0 objective damage on all others except me? I can understand low numbers since we were losing, but 0? Not a single shot at a turret during laning phase?
>>537253390God Paige players already are the most retarded player base in this game and it hasn't even been a month.Supportfags are ALWAYS the lowest IQ retards in every player base
>>537258994Bitch are you serious, we still have ayyamato andneon prime goylem bebop, the models will change when the stars are right
>>537259305You said it feels like ass, or that it's the worst gun in the game. The first one is subjective, but the second thing is objectively not true because Geist's gun does good damage.
>>537239020damn
>default gamemode is still the dogshit dota modecall me when they add a mode that isn't shit
Doorman needs to be nerfed. He can spam doorbell, it does too much damage, it moves too fast.
>>537258393everyone aims the exact same way retarded fuck>oh but the bullet velocitydoes not matter because at the ranges where it does matter you have fall off.
>>537259589Too high IQ for you? Go back to trannywatch
>>537259659Nah, automatic guns have a completely different and more forgiving feel
>>537259703enjoy your dead game trannytard
>>537258876Holliday gun = goodGeist gun = bad
Vyper's gun is the worst gun in the game.>need to be 1.5 meters away from someone to deal any damage to them>need to be sliding around in order to shoot for more than 0.2 seconds>you slide around at the speed of sound so it's almost impossible to be close to people for long enough to kill them unless you have a massive soul lead
>>537259867Overwatch is LITERALLY dead.
>>537260031good thing i play an alive game(dota) then
>>537260001it shoots fastI just pretend that vyper is a support that deletes objectives
>>537260114dotabros like deadlock and don't bad mouth it, you're a falseflag overwatch/rivals zoomer tard
>>537260179dotabros don't give a single fuck about shartlock, you can literally play a non shit version of it
>>537260031more alive than this albeit
>>537260261>my game is more alive than a literal alpha invite only game, take that!
down with the ship
>>537260252nah deadcock is a good gamet. 3k hours in dota
>>537259371not when characters like infernus and seven exist
>>537259643but enough about grey talon
>>537260001yeah, that's what happens when the devs listen to sub oracle players.the characters that actually take risks for big rewards (who also get countered hard by cheap items btw) get dumpstered into the dirt while retards first MOBA character like Infernus and Wraith get to body shot you to death from just on hit procs.
Was this game better as 4 lanes?
>>537260775no
>>537260775Absolutely not.
>>537260775I liked the verticality of the old map more but it feels better to play with 3 lanes
>lane is going great, tons of denies from hollidays shit rof>suddenly haze's brain snaps and just starts inting over and over feeding 7 deaths in lane>green was feeding their asses off all game tooI love it when the game just decides you dont even get a chance to win
>>537260775nobody could decide on what lane to actually push
>>537260919old map had less vertical play area but it was more open for lash and vindicta
>get a 4 winstreak>immediately get 5 games of the most slackjawed turbo "reasons why eugenics need to make a comeback" retards possible that all go 0-11 even on braindead heroes like Billy, Viktor and DrifterThey definitely don't bother hiding the forced 50>>537260775Yes. If Icefrog is serious about neutering the deathball meta that people got tired of, he'd just make the game 4 lanes again. Lane phases lasted the longest during 4 lanes. People spent less time running around brooling constantly during 4 lanes.
>>537260775yes
Victor is just a more balanced version of Shiv.
>>537260378Okay but why would i play this shit instead of dota?literally 0 reason
>faggot doorman player literally does not utilise his carts or portals once in a single team fight>several times he actually saves isolated enemies from picks by trying to kill steal with his ult when they're low, buying time for people to come save them after we've already dumped ults >call him out and ask him to stop>tells me "actually just stfu and look at damage after game">he did less damage than me>adds me to seethedoorman is one of those heroes huh
>>537261094the amount of doorman roleplayers ive seen has solidified its the certified redditor special
>>537261078>Dotard tourist having another melty ITT because the better MOBA is getting more attentiondon't worry, you'll be relegated to the update every 3-5 years bin like TF2. :P
>>537260001Devs listened to low rank shitters from reddit, I'd argue gun Ivy is far stronger than Vyper. Vyper has to get near you to deal any sort of damage while also having low hp pool. Compare that to Haze/Infernus/Wraith/Mirage that don't even need to engage you to deal any damage.
>>537261158>better mobalollmao
>>537261151>ragebaiting griefer hero is.... leddit
>>537261078because dota's creative lead obviously moved on years ago and the game has been getting flattened down and homogenized ever sinceI actually like the feature creep and the clusterfuck map. but everything about the game is being made more linear and uninspireddeadlock is a good game that keeps getting better. dota was a good game that keeps getting worse
>>537261025>Lane phases lasted the longest during 4 lanes. People spent less time running around brooling constantly during 4 lanes.literally the opposite, laning feels very stagnant now
Drifter should groom Mina
wtf happened here lol
Laaaash and the Sandman, that sounds like a movie
>>537261276You can already see how they just make better versions of existing heroes thoughicefraud is creatively bankrupt from 20 years of dota
>>537261343Lane phase during 4 lanes would stretch on to 10-15 minutes. We get 7-10 minutes at most now.
>>537261416>lash straight up admits he wants to fuck haze
>>537257018>Tanned Geist Oh mah dik
>>537261491it really didn't, last year laning was very fluid and was all over the place within the first few minutes even
>>537261248where's your updates lil bro? oh wait, deadlock is eating all of them. LMFAOOOOOnow wait in line like the good second rate citizen you are.
>>537261491because of other changes like last-hitting, shop rework, etc.
anyone else hyped to spend hundreds on cosmetics for their hideout?
the fuck kind of question is that google?
>>537261710Where's your working matchmaking bro, or new heroes that aren't free wins and completely invalidate the older ones?oh wait....
>>537254076Any melee hero gets bullied by bebop’s upcut (at medium-low rank)
>>537261903deadlock is a champ in apex or something
>>537261890I don't give a shit about hideout customization, didn't spend a dime on that shit in IDV.now whenever they release a cool anthro/werewolf? THEN they'll sap all my money from customization
>>537262001>a cool anthrofurfags OUT
>>537261903a hero in valorant has the same name
>>537261903deadlock from valorant
>>537261965Valorant. Yeah Valve copied Riot AGAIN
>>537262067furfags are already IN, bro.now it's a matter of taking their money.
What characters are left that are up and coming?
>>537262001Shiv is seemingly a werewolf
>>537262162>valve even stole the hand prosthetic for like 15 heroes in deadflop
>>537262261*Weremonkey
Haven't played the game since Shiv, friend showed me a image of Mina so now i wann play that cutieAnything big changed since then?Any recommendations for playstyle and/or items for her?
>>537262250slork
>>537262261a werewolf that doesn't transform/is already transformed does not matter.+ wasn't that removed flat out from all the voice lines and the place holder model removed?
>>537262162I can see why people are asking google that question. Holy ugly art.
>>537262250>Slork>Boho>Priest>Raven>Pirate>SwanNext hero batch will probably consist of these heroes.
make a new thread within the next 5 minutes or i'm going to bake a thick Vyper thread.make your choice
gun paradox? yay or nay
>>537262776bake thick vyper
>>537262776Dew it
feet thread no consessions, no negotiationplease
>>537224142>greek godHavent been around the game for a while, is that fucker Hermes?
>>537262776Vyper is less fuckable than the XCOM2 vipers
>>537262390Drifter seems to mention it or something
>>537221374>he's so above humanity's trivialitiesdo you retards even do the bare minimum before spewing bullshit about characters.he gets ticked off a good bit in game and actively sounds mad when Geist shits on the baroness.
>>537262250Wrecker
>>537263041>do you retards even do the bare minimum before spewing bullshit about characters.no
>>537217464No
The Lash owes me sex.
>>537263393>>537263393>>537263393I warned yall
Before this thread ends everyone show of their hands whos a discord tranny here
>>537263443>dotard still having a melty
>>537240954great for dynamo, warden, kelvin really just any spirit nuker or range based cc
>>537262194omg
