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Welcome to the Sonic General! Here we discuss all things Sonic!

/sthg/ #8590 - Wind Edition

==NEWS==
>Sonic Racing: CrossWorlds Animation
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ocBa8jTXUA

>Sonic Racing: CrossWorlds | Competition Trailer
ENG: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1nIhfo2X0oI
JPN: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BVoDsexw0NM

>Sonic Racing: CrossWorlds - CrossTalk 6 | Vector, Espio, & Charmy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hxYkmbmDAr0&ab_channel=SonictheHedgehog

>Sonic Racing - Cross the Worlds - (Opening ver.) - Performed by James Bourne of Busted
https://youtu.be/OR9FGj1Bj70

>New card game Sonic Blitz released download here.
https://rentry.org/sthglinks#sonic-blitz-apk

>Sonic Rumble Global Launch Delayed
https://sonicrumble.com/GLDelay

>Paramount Developing Sonic Movie Spin-Offs
https://comicbook.com/gaming/news/sonic-the-hedgehog-spin-off-movies-report-paramount/

>Sonic the Hedgehog 4 will be released on March 19, 2027
https://variety.com/2025/film/news/sonic-4-release-date-march-2027-1236280697/

==Comics Release Dates==
Sonic the Hedgehog #81 - 03 September 2025
Sonic the Hedgehog: Chaotix's 30th Anniversary Special - 08 October 2025
Sonic the Hedgehog #82 - 15 October 2025
Sonic the Hedgehog: Chasing Shadows - 04 Mar 2026

==GENERAL INTEREST LINKS==
https://rentry.org/sthglinks
>/sthg/ OP template:
https://rentry.org/sthgtemplate
>Milestone pastebin:
https://pastebin.com/LJCfZhY4
>Sonic Game/Mod Recommendation Spreadsheet:
https://rentry.org/sthglinks#sonic-gamemod-recommendation-spreadsheet
>Perfect System Collection:
https://rentry.org/sthglinks#perfect-system-collection
>Sonic comic scans:
https://grabber.zone

>/sthg/ booru:
https://sthg.booru.org/
>/sthg/ OC info:
https://sthgoc.tumblr.com/archive/
>/sthg/ cytube:
https://cytube/r/sthg
>/sthg/ Pixel World:
https://ourworldofpixels.com/sthg

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CrossWorlds dialogue datamines:
https://pastebin.com/kAx2DP5c (EN)
https://pastebin.com/0vg53isp (JP)
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Have you ever thought about a world where everything is exactly the same...
Except you don't exist?
Everything functions perfectly without you...
Ha, ha... The thought terrifies me.
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I'll be leaving JP voices on. Get a better English director, Sega.
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>>537236137
I am the only real person in the world.
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Y'aru hear something?
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>>537236156
I always use JP voices for sonic, not because i’m a jap purist or anything but because i like to pretend the characters are speaking an alien language
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>>537236392
lol
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What if Kojima wrote the next sonic game
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>>537236156
You don't even understand the language
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CrossWorld courses are ass, only Mystic Jungle is any good because the halfpipe section. The novelty of racing on existing stages wears off pretty quick.
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>>537236156
Besides sonic and shadow, I don't think I know who the rest of the cast sounds in japanese. But considering is Japan, I assume they keep the same people ever since they got the voices in Sa1 and are still around now. It's crazy how once you become the VA for a character in japan, you basically become that character forever until you get into controversy or literally die, is not like other places where they swap VAs every now and then, japan is literally ride or die
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>>537236542
I watched a lot of anime and know most phrases.
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>>537236583
Yeah, Junichi and Takeo have been voicing Sonic and Amy since SA1.
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>Sonic Movie 3 is considred by many to be the best Sonic movie
>Shadow Gens TGS 2024 was focused on Shadow, displaying his real-life motocycle (Dark Rider) replica and giant Shadow balloon at the venue
>Shadow Gens had some of the best animation and choreography in a Sonic game, and the most polished gameplay
>Sonic's return to serialized manga began with a Shadow series
>Dark Beginnings was one of the best animated Sonic content we've had
>SEGA Store Tokyo has a Shadow statue displayed at the front of the store (no SHITnic statue)
>Crossworlds reveal was focused squarely on Shadow
>Crossworlds animation is focused on Shadow and has him beat Sonic
How does /sthg/ feel about Shadow's new protagonist status?
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>>537236764
Shadow is the only character with a backstory.
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>>537236664
That's not knowing a language
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>>537236764
He's also the most popular character in Sonic Speed Sim.
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>>537236865
I know, but it's better than knowing what they're saying by the flatest delivery ever. But hey, at least Jet came a long way since Free Riders.
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>>537236764
The fact is, Sonic is a character Iizuka inherited, but has no special attachment to. He created Shadow. He loves Shadow. He will always get special treatment over any other character.
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>>537236251
https://youtu.be/CyUzUettQ2Y
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Also, it's crazy Tails, Knux, and Amy got taken out instantly while Rouge and Silver got to display their stuff. Who wrote the most well known characters job instantly when directing this?
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>>537236967
I do like Jet's voice a lot. Oddly enough, the Rogues probably have the best English voice performances.
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>>537236971
Iizuka is like Ian Flynn, but was able to successfully create a character people love more than the original cast.
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>>537236764
Isn't shadow like a really popular character within the western and japanese fanbase? I don't see the problem on sega giving him the spotlight again, not that he had that many good content before anyway
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Sage and Cream kissing my cock...
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>>537237116
Who did he try to put more attention too? Tangle? Surge?
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>>537237119
Waxxed chest bootleg Silver
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What's her deal?
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>>537237119
Malnourishment the hedgehog
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>>537237180
if you are gonna cunny post at least post some pictures
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>>537237325
New characters and it's a human?
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>>537237203
Both when they were first introduced before just leaving them to Evan.
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What's her deal?
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>>537237421
Just hands them off like nothing. Not a care what they'll wind up as.
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Is Kraken Bay not from any previous Sonic game?
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>>537237068
I can't respect anyone who hasn't at least considered the opinion before adulthood.
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What's this bitch's deal?
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Douge
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>>537237325
>>537237513
>>537237669
Built for BEC (big egg cock)
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>>537237730
Bro, that might his relative or something.
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>>537237669
intelligent
pretty
educated
sexy
not fair
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>>537237541
I'm hearing it's similar to Pirate Storm from Secret Rings but there's no kraken in that.
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>>537237850
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>>537236431
For me it's just the high quality and consistency. You can play EVERY Sonic game with the same Japanese cast. No need to reacclimate every time. And the English voice direction is so bad right now that you really appreciate the Japanese standard cast even more.

Plus I just like to hear Jun'ichi say READY...GO and KIMOCHI ZE
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>>537237613
Nice fox!
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Who is the Frieren of Sonic?
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>>537237881
How did they make her so cute?
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>>537236664
I watched alot of mickey mouse cartoons i know english better than anyone else
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>>537236251
>>537237613
Keep saying that, i'm still in the void zone.
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>>537238042
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>>537238174
With a lot of love, care and time!
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>>537238174
By making her face wide
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I want to smell her breath.
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>>537237669
>>537237513
>>537237325
Getting arrested after being caught in bed with Tails seems most likely.

Sonic stories love getting into archaeology so it's not a stretch she's important in the next game. We haven't really had a Central/South-America-like setting since SA1 so that would be cool to revisit. Or something like the second movie (or Unleashed really) where they're traveling all over the world to different ruins that have a mysterious connection.
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>>537238273
The void is now my domain.
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>>537236251
>>537238273
>>537237613
uuuu.... sexy rapist...
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>>537238420
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>>537238479
Mind breaking games.
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>>537238420
The stench of weed, alcohol, and teeth that have never been brushed
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>>537237880
Might be based on it and they just added the Kraken to spice it up.
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>>537237080
The truth is, no one cares about Tails, Amy, or Knuckles when Dhadow is present. He supplanted every single character.
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>>537237881
Cute birdie
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Shadow is a fraud
>BUT-
only won against Jobnic once, and Jobnic had to help him win
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>>537238624
fi does not smell
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>>537238479
>sexy
You're not so bad yourself chocotits.
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>>537238662
He stole all of Sonic's best personality traits so he might as well be the series mascot now.
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Chad the Hawk wouldnt help Fraudow win if he was in charge
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>I'm the coolest!
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>>537238830
I don't think we will ever get another mainline game without Shadow being apart of the story in some way, for better or worse.

Knuckles however? He could be entirely absent and no one would even notice.
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>>537238997
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>>537239068
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>>537238793
all fionaposters are stinky, that's why I love them.
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>>537236193
please do my request?
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>>537238793
Fi fucking reeks(good).
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>>537238662
Tails is lame, Knuckles became redundant once Shadow debuted, and Amy is a nothingburger now. There is no reason to favor these characters over Shadow.
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>>537239019
I don't necessarily agree, I think Sonic Team is going to continue being very protective of Shadow and we're going to see more games where he only shows up for special DLC missions like Forces or only shows up in his own dedicated games. They don't wanna fuck up his brand by tying him too hard to a bad Sonic game.
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>>537239019
Knuckles has been absent in IDW and barely anyone complains.
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>>537238997
>>537239068
>Shadow wins once and gets all the attention making Sonic jealous for once in his entire life
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>>537236764
Shidow fatigue
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>>537239151
I bet the pink rat has a thing for smells.
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>>537238662
That goes for every character, sure.
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>>537238997
>post race live sex celebration
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>>537236193
please do my riddles
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>>537239327
Shut up Silverfag at least your character was in the short.

WHERE WAS BLAZE
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>>537239328
Fiona looks like she would stink good, so yes!
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>>537239310
Knuckles gives off Masculine Black Male vibe unlike Sissynic and gayver
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>>537239138
Amy should bake Jet into a turkey next time. At least she TANKED that unlike Fails...
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>>537239319
>sonic realized that shadow is stealing all of his fame and friends by winning against him once
>this leads sonic to sabotage himself and put everyone that still liked him against him
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Ian hates this, but Shadow is basically the deuteragonist of the series.
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>>537239327
Nobody's fatigued.

https://youtu.be/9np10dhmfdM
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>>537239235
No no anon, we are in our overconfidence era right now.

Shadow is going to be a big part of the next game and only AFTER it gets panned will he be shelved.
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>>537239443
Now i want to smell amy too, but what does she smells like?
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IAN WILL HATE THIS SITE

JUST SEND A MESSAGE AND ASK TO FUCK!
>NO CREDIT CARD
>NO SIGN UP
>NO BULLSHIT
VIEW PICTURES
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>>537239434
Blaze is only in a icon on the opening movie. Btw I find this let's keep it civil Ian writes Amy saying when she non-hesitantly throws a spinning blade cutting Vector's ride in half.
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>>537239613
>Ian hates this

Does he? I feel like he likes Shadow.
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>>537239735
>I feel like he likes Shadow.
Oh, sweet summer child.
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>>537239735
>I feel like he likes Shadow.
Lmao.
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>>537239706
... Roses and sweets?
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>>537239706
Ever have rose flavored ice cream?
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>>537239310
Better to be absent than written ooc and purposeless like Silver and Blaze
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>>537239735
You are going to get them started
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>>537239818
>>537239816
Well he did him incredible justice in Dark Beginnings and Shadow Gens if he doesn't.

Maybe it's far more dangerous to be a character Ian LIKES.
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>>537238662
Tails has always been lame. I think Knuckles could be salvaged though. Thing is, you'd need another game like SA to truly make the other characters shine, some big story with every character having the own subplot that is important to the overall story. But that takes too much effort.
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>>537239823
>>537239881
I was expecting cotton candy or something like that.
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>Heh.... ian will HATE THIS!
Ian is sleeping nigga and you should too
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>>537239735
Yeah this if anything he hates Silver
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>>537239982
>Well he did him incredible justice in Dark Beginnings and Shadow Gens if he doesn't.
Because he was on a leash, a very tight leash.
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>>537239735
Shadow always jobs under Ian Flynn lmao.

>>537239982
I think that's Ian being leashed by Sega/Iizuka and even them there's some questionable choices.
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>>537236764
It's time for Sega to follow through with Maekawa's master plan and rip off Mega Man Zero. Shitnic is thrown aside for Shadow games in the Shadow franchise set in the future after Failurenic and his flop friends are dead.
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>>537240000
SA1 was THE time to flesh out Knuckles and they actively avoided telling any kind of story with him. I think they hate Knuckles. Iizuka must have beef with whoever his creator is.
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>>537238662
>hey anon did you know if you write like shit a bunch of characters in such way they all job to the same melodramatic alien guy thy all become lame?
Anon discovers hot water.
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¡Hola! ¿Dónde está mi rival, el chico zorro? He oído que tiene el pelaje amarillo naranja y, fíjate, ¡esta cola! ¿No te parece interesante? Seguro que es muy fuerte. ¡Espero ganar el combate!
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If Ian had his way, Shadow would job to Knuckles and then Shadow would limp over to his BEST FRIENDS Rouge and Omega to be comforted and Sonic makes a quip like "More like the Ultimate WASHOUT lmao!"
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>they didnt give what i wanted with this character in this specific situation that mus mean they the character and me
Your logic is of a teenager girl
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>>537240019
I assume is kinda canon that shadow smells like coffee now, so I just assumed she would smell not only really neat but also whatever she eats too. I don't know if the official sonic JP channel has listed her favorite foods.
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WHICH ONE OF YOU FUCKERS KEEPS PICKING APOTOS WITH THE FUCKING MONSTER TRUCK GADGET. SHIT DOESN'T EVEN BENEFIT YOU LONG TERM.
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THERE WAS NO "PROBLEM" WITH AMYS CHARACTER, SHE WAS CUTE, SILLY, FUNNY, AND CHARMING, HER WANTING TO DATE SONIC WAS A GOOD RUNNING GAG (literally) AND THERE WAS NO REASON TO STOP DOING IT OTHER THAN SOME FUCKING FEMINIST OR JEW OR BOTH WHO NEVER EVEN PLAYED THE GAMES COMPLAINED ABOUT IT AND COULDNT ACCEPT THAT NOT ALL ART EXISTS FOR THEM SO THEY DESTROYED SOMETHING I CARE ABOUT.
I WANT AMY TO BE OBSESSED WITH SONIC
I WANT SONIC TO RUN AWAY FROM HER BECAUSE HE THINKS SHES ANNOYING
I WANT IT TO BE A FUN RUNNING GAG LIKE IT WAS BEFORE
I DONT GIVE A FUCKING FUCK ABOUT ((((CHARACTER DEVELOPMENT))))) FUCK THAT SHIT
GENOCIDE ARCHIEFAGS, GENOCIDE SAT-AMFAGS, GENOCIDE (((CONSULTING))) FIRMS, AND MOST IMPORTANTLY, NUKE ISRAEL.
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If I was writing Sonic, I would keep everything the same, except I would give Amy diabetes.
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>>537240320
Hate the character and hate me*
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>>537240320
Lol, you're so mad that your spelling suffered, Flynnbro.
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>>537239706
Like bubblegum from a 20 year old gum machine.
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>>537240325
>canon smells
God this franchise.
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>>537240320
Nah, after seeing how they treated Knuckles in the 00s, I really do think they hate Knuckles.
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This rabbit has a successful rock band and fucks his human girlfriend named madonna every day. I think we were robbed bros
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>>537240198
The game was called SONIC Adventure, not Knuckles Adventure. Sonic was the star, not Knuckles..
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>>537240458
Im quite calm about this particular discussion, im just saying that automatically believing that theres a conspiracy because one thing that you didnt want happened to a character you like is the logic of a moody 13 year old girl
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>>537240313
Cuckles would be the one cucking Shadow too.
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>>537240571
Sonic didn't even fucking do anything cool until the end when all the other characters with actual fucking stories said "here take this magic rock" and then he fought a water moccasin
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>>537240569
The chaotix need me i cannot sleep
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>>537240502
Am I wrong? sega is really pushing the fact that shadow REALLY likes coffee, so I assume that's what he smells like if it was written down somewhere. I also know that the japanese love to give fictional characters specific things about themselves like a day of birth, height or even blood type, so it wouldn't surprise me if in the Sonic channel they have stuff like that in their bio but I haven't checked so I might be super wrong on this.
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>>537239735
His butt monkey Kyle hates Shadow.
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>>537240517
Anyone would hate Cuckles after the slop that was the Archie comics. Literal nobody turned into the strongestest character because he's the author's pet. At least Shadow was born to be the Ultimate Lifeform, Knuckles is a nobody from a dead clan guarding a rock.
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I hate shadow the hedgehog. *consumes every shadow the hedgehog media*
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Do you guys actually believe the stuff you say here because sometimes it feels like you just take on random points to argue with people
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>>537240791
No i'm just amazed by the amount of useless trivia.
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>>537239982
He did it if they agreed Gun Commander is now named Abraham Tower.
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>>537240848
No one read Archie
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>>537241007
I think Iizuka might have and that's why he decided to pull the plug on the Echidna wank.
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>>537239735
>>537240839
Does anyone have that compilation of Shadow loss moments written by Ian?
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>>537240839
Why did he post gayshit
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>>537240969
That's something I came to learn over time, the japanese really love their useless trivia about characters. I guess especially if you love them that much, people will go out of their way to celebrate characters birthdays irl or just make cute fanart
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>>537240569
It's 10 AM
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*sniffing amy's crotch*
mmmmmmmmmmmm strawberry cheesecake
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>>537239915
Must be a miracle to be Metal, he has no possible dialogue to be ruined by.
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>>537241171
Amy seems like the type who would free bleed

It wouldn't smell like that
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>>537240964
At least half of us are autistic enough to be hyper literal and hate misinformation.
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>>537239310
He's doing his job. And yeah, keep him away from the lesbian soap opera.
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>>537241256
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>>537241256
amy hasn't had her first period yet
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>>537241171
>>537241256
>>537241350
Blobians don't fuck, there's nothing down there. The Blobian biology is just a sexless blob.
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>>537241350
....ain't she a woman?
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Knuckles was cool in the Sonic movie. He Destroyed a barrier that could vaporize Sonic and tanked Earth's re-entry at the end saving Sonic and Fails. Not overshadowing the literal Ultimate Lifeform while still being shown as strong and having his cool moments.
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>IDW characters who are close to become part of a mainline games
Tangle
Whisper
Surge

>character needs to be added to a mobile spinoff (not the card game) to reach the higher tier
Lanolin (part of the DC team, got datamined for the mobile card game)
Kit (got a figurine)
Mimic (got a plushy)
Belle (shilled in the comic)

>no chance
other characters not mentioned
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mmmmm tang
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>>537241557
I honestly completely forgot he was in the short. You barely see him.
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Kek. That's our boy Ian.
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>>537241517
Shut up liar! Fi has a hot vixen pussy!
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>>537241610
>IDW characters who are close to become part of a mainline games
None
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>>537241517
Characters have mentioned being born before.
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>>537241769
I think he's referring to Speed Battle.
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>>537241769
anon... whisper's sweaty armpits will be featured in the next sonic game...
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>>537241852
IDW will be dead by the time the next mainline game is shat out
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mmmm sonshadamy
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>>537241897
You've been saying this for EIGHT YEARS
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>>537241868
damn sonic... you would breed blaze and surge than ever entering amy's hole...
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>>537241995
And I'll say it for 8 more.
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>after Shadow
Sonicbros...
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>>537242162
One game had a stat that actually listed Shadow faster than Sonic I believe.
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>>537242259
Fails can't fight even out of a dress
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>>537242513
>>537242637
Everything about him SCREAMS homosexual
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>>537242513
Why the fuck did they give Tails a faggy ass dance? Do they think making Tails look like a fool is funny?
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>>537241804
they dont mention How
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>>537243096
Because Sega hates Tails = Gohan autists
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Sonic needs a character that is always pregnant and never gives birth
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>>537242513
>>537242637
He's a potato made of circles.
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>>537243257
Uh no, no we don't need that.
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>Nine, Knuckles the Dread and Rusty Rose are more canon than IDW
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>>537243257
We need this sooo much
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Nine should have replaced Fails.
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>>537241509
Show us the girls, Rouge!
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>land a shot with a punching glove
>doesn't do shit
what's the simplest ways to improve my speed? Do I want to use any of the training crap like aim assist?
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I'm only here to cause drama.
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I wonder what 6 I'm going to do today?
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>Secret rings dlc pack
Darkspine Sonic
Shahra
Erazor Djinn
Sinbad the Sailor

>Black Knight dlc pack
Excalibur Sonic
Merlina
Sir Lancelot
Sir Percival
Sir Gawain
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>>537243801
thank you slashy very cool
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>>537243813
... Did you really had to make that one?
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>>537244240
What's wrong anon? It's just a hug.
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>>537243989
>slashy
EWWW don't compare me to that, i have standards even in my villain ways.
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>>537244329
Ah, then is okay! I would hug her a lot too!!
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I really really wish Ariem, Gemerl and Marine were in this game, they could still be as DLC but they won't talk. I also wish the classic era characters could come back there's hope since Amy mentions Trip by name but that could be more of Ian's bull shit but then again Mighty, Ray, Bark and Bean have modernized designs in Blitz however Honey isn't in, she and Shade were removed along with a bunch of archie and fleetway and cartoon characteres after the first draft, I wish all the Zeti were in too and most of all I wish the animation was a 4 part series each race focusing on a different character.

That being said, I am angry, I have to go work today so I won't be here to lord my board skills over the powerfag losers who think their big truck can catch me

since skins are on the table I really hope we get riders skins for everybody who was in those games and new skins for the characters who missed it like espio, charmy, sage and Omega he wasn't in free riders.

Final note, I'm beginning to find Miku cute how do I break her charms?
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>>537243969
Gib Nimue reeeee
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>>537243813
>>537244329
>>537244679
That, is not an "huggable area".
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I love the FUNK RMX version of City Escape so much. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C-SSsThzjAI
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>Get in a lobby
>Everybody picks the unleashed stage
>Horde of spinning monster trucks against my Tails on a board

I hate that the meta is formulating so quickly and I hate how people are such bitches afraid of a fair race they need their easy start, You fucking pussies, you fucking cowards, you fucking NPCs, race properly or get off the track, this isn't me being angry this is me being disappointed that they not only cheated the game but also themselves out of a decent experience
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>>537245146
Why u heff to be med

It's only game
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>>537245146
adapt to the meta and get speed item gadgets to catch up after they had their fun?
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Behead every single competitive faggot, and then boil them alive.
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I didn't realize the Crossworlds had their own final lap themes. Crossworlds I kneel.
https://youtu.be/EdbcmunP3pw
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are you really surprised that a party game meant for little kids has a bad metagame
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No! I can't lose here! I WON'T BE THE ONLY ONE TO LOSE HERE!!!!!
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>>537245580
I don't really like the faux chorus stuff, but it is a nice touch.
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>>537245146
>Monsters gang rape Tails while he's tied to a board

That's some odd fanfiction you've written there buddy.
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>>537243813
Put da bun in the void.
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>>537245580
TSR had those as well.
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>>537245884
The void is mine, dixie.
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I'm getting excited in a waku waku like way.
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So, what do you think Crash Bandicoot is doing right now?
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Speaking of, I was so disappointed by Market Street in TSR. For everyone's favourite course theme from Unleashed it just felt ... flat, somehow
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does Amy's crosswolrds model have shorts on
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>>537245979
The void is me, I am hollow
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Fun to you is engaging in the chaos while having a hearty chuckle with your friends
Fun to me is choosing the optimal path with least resistance to win first place
We
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>>537235864
Crossworlds is kinda sucking major ass. Graphics suck on PC and it doesn't have 120fps mode. The gameplay is just randomly getting flattened by a monster truck twice in one corner. The top speed is laughably slow. The customization is very lacking and there aren't enough slots for gadgets. Desync up the ass. Handling sucks, sometimes you make the corner, sometimes you don't. Item jerk is the same and the correlation with racing game skill is very low. I can't fathom why the general public loves kart games, it's the worst kind of racing game. It's like anti racing. It's just playing cards with some snaking between that.
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>>537246212
>i am hollow
no, you are amy
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Silverfags, what is this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZUhf2hh-qD4
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>>537244308
Why did they have to put my boy tails nine behind a paywall? Do they want him to become irrelevant? Why not just put Miku behind it, make money off normies and sonic fans get to enjoy some more characters. Might as well mod Nine in or at least put him in a battle pass.
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>>537246345
La creatura

now to talk about something different the joker cup, they used Kasumi even through Kasumi isn't a full time phantom thief, why? she wasn't even in scramble
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>>537246345
Somehow this is Evan's fault
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>>537246321
I am amy?
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>>537245979
Nothin like a little sugah to sweeten up the place.
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>>537246195
Red spats
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>>537246936
I truly, earnestly hate this.
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Sonic will use guns
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>>537246982
Don't worry mods already exist. What do you want her to wear?
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>>537247046
(exasperated) what do you think? the same pretty white undies she's worn forever.
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Triplets porn
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>>537246982
It can be cute. I think this was the first indication of things to come.
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>>537247138
Just her undies? Hope people don't complain online, she's got her bust in this game so it won't seem sus.
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>>537246936
I love spats, but they shouldn't be used with an outfit like Amy's.
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>>537247239
I'm going to break a wooden chair over your back, but one of those movie chairs that break really easily so there's no lasting damage
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>>537247239
Amy needs to keep her bust from now on, plus the mascot has an exposed back, so at least she gets to keep it.
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>>537244240
Yes because:
1) It's a funny edit to me.
2) All mobians belong to human men, and Amy is no exception.
3) I was 98% done with it before I had to go to wagecuck.
4) I know you won't have the cobblestones to ever repost it. :)
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>>537247305
The white panties always symbolized innocence too, but I guess that became a niche that's been compromised by whoever started to censor everything.
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>>537246936
Thanks I hate it
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I won.
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>>537246936
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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>>537247490
What makes you say that? You sound so sure
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>>537247391
No cleavage so it's fine. To be fair popular media has a strange relationship with busts. The way I see it, it's fine to have busts or even huge tiddays as long as the rest of the character isn't sexualized or gives off sex vibes like Rouge does. Then anything is fine. Like Helen Parr having a big ass.
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I blame nothing but the west.
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I love nothing but the west.
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Go west - THIS IS OUR DESTINY
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I hate crossworlds. So unsatisfying to play. Feels shit when you get fucked by items. Doesn't feel good when you win. They need to lower the price to 5 bucks.
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>>537247046
I EXPECT HER TO WEAR THE SAME CUTE WHITE PANTIES SHES ALWAYS FUCKING WORN YOU SHIFTY SHADY COIN CLIPPING FUCKING KIKE! I ALSO EXPECT ABSOLUTE FEMINIST GENOCIDE AS SOON AS POSSIBLE
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>>537248187
Got refunded?
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Tangle has no ships other than being lesbian bait.
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>>537246936
KILL JEWS KILL FEMINISTS KILL ESRB KILL CERO KILL GOVERNMENT WORKERS NUKE ISRAEL KILL JANNIES
did i miss anything?
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>>537248238
It's not her fault
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>>537248334
Tangle doesnt exist and the comics are jewish propaganda
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You guys are impressive you find the negativity in everything and manage to have full day long crash outs over several negative things at once, meanwhile the president of the united states apparently died and the white house refuses to say anything
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Real! the realest!
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>>537248254
I didn't even buy it. I was going to because of Tails Nine but now I'm really not convinced. Game seems to have it out for me. Ruins my fun and flow.
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>>537248446
he died on the toilet btw
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>>537248375
Yeah i know its the fault of the fucking jews and feminists and thats why hiter was right.
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>>537248446
Shadow can't die tho
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I'm pretty happy with the direction of Sonic honestly.
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>>537248238
So what are your pairings for the IDW girls once Ian, Evan and co. are completely ousted?
Who gets to breed Surge? Who dicks down Lanolin? Who impregnates Tangle? Who therapyfucks Whisper?
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>>537248462
I also wanted dark boy... but the prices are stupid.
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>>537248589
See>>537248428
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>>537248589
>Surge
Scourge
>Lanolin
Monkey Khan
>Tangle
Manic
>Whisper
Silver

I picked these randomly. I hope you like them
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>>537248607
It's on discount on Greenman Gaming if you're willing to shell out normal AAA game prices.
I love dark boy, I think I can wait though to see if they can mod him in. I dunno though if it'll work. I'll just have to see if they can do a Marvel Rival and mod in big floppy tits on all the cast including Eggman.
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>>537248686
Dick rankings for them?

Also forgot Jewel, who's gonna break her shell?
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>>537248446
This is real btw. Donald Trump got stuck in a big metal pipe, upside down, and all the blood rushed to his head. They tried to get him out of the pipe but only his pants came off and there was poo in the pants. He started moaning and sounded really messed up, moaning like someone who was really sick and nauseous. They think they heard him throwing up in the pipe. After a few hours he stopped moaning and there was just breathing sounds. Anyway it turns out this morning he died.
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>>537248839
Dingo
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>>537248896
You didn't choose them at random did you? You just wanted to create the greatest abominations in Sonic history to scar the mothers for life. What did they ever do to you? Even Eggman isn't that twisted.
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>>537249312
Dingo can turn into an elephant what do you mean you don't want him to fuck jewel??
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>>537249341
I don't want splattered bug bits all over my chili dogs ok? I want it with real and delicious meat.
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Jewelingo chads now is our time to rise up
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>>537248735
>mod in big floppy tits on all the cast including Eggman
hot
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It Doesn't Matter (SA2) vs. All Hail Shadow (Crush 40) vs. Dreams of an Absolution. Which Hedgehog Trio theme is superior?
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>>537249616
FUCK THE PAIN AWAY MY BED IS IN RUINS~
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>>537247849
Because reposting it would imply or infer that you're a fellow HMOFAchad like myself. And unless I'm mistaken, you've only posted cute pics of Amy, but never anything lewd or suggestive.
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>>537249495
When you really think about it, Jewel and Dingo would have a great character dynamic that would help with their complex development
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>>537249616
It doesn't matter because that song still fits Sonic's character
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TtnkwSnDbPo
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>bestie
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>>537249725
... I would never do such a thing!
And totally I haven't done it more than once before, that's silly!!
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This may of been asked before but how would game Sonic handle a character like Surge?
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>>537249742
>Small prim and proper secretary woman has big hunk kink as well as being a sexual deviant (gets bored of one shape of dick after a few days).
Yeah I see it. How would she fuck the motorcycle though?
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>>537249742
I see the vision
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>>537250024
By immediately breaking character and filling her belly with his seed until it's fit to burst. She has that Silk-Spider-man effect on him. Too bad Amy and Tails happened to be there to witness.
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>>537250024
By breeding her.
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>>537250024
The narratives of the games will bend the laws of the universe to put Sonic in the right. It's really hard to say in a situation like Surge where Sonic is everything wrong with her life.
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>>537250024
He would defeat her without doing the ridiculous redemption lecture.
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>>537250290
>The narratives of the games will bend the laws of the universe to put Sonic in the right.
>"Sonic is really smart. he had that far ahead foresight. who knew the moon spins?"
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>>537250024
Not with a stupid amount of batman moralfaggotry for sure, but still he would stop her first and have a joke or two while facing her.
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>>537250014
Which is why my original statement stands. Yet this makes me wonder: If every man has his price, what's yours?
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>>537250290
Honestly, a character like Surge in the games would be a one-off villain given her own origin story. The end of the game would have Surge realize she shouldn't blame Sonic for something he had no hand in and cause suffering to others just because shit happened to her.
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>>537250417
Yeah...
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>Ian wrote Archie Sonic like Spider-Man.
>Ian writes IDW Sonic like Batman (morality-wise)
Why can't Ian write Sonic like Sonic?
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>>537250417
That episode makes me so mad I can't even put it into words
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>>537250448
Stands? I posted not so cutesy pics of amy before, so it doesn't. Also I am unclear what you meant with your question. my price?
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Well since we're on topic.
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isn't dingo like 40 times bigger than jewel
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>>537250631
Because he can only relate to cucks and irresponsible bums.
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>>537250819
jewel is a unironic fuck doll.
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>>537250417
Xfags will defend this. "Soft canon" my ass
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>>537250417
"Sonic X understands the characters"
Dear fucking god
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>>537250290
>>537250417
The more I notice Sega pushing Mary Suenic the more I think I was too harsh on Lost World's story.
>Sonic tells Eggman to drop the animals, this gives Eggman the idea to drop them from the stratosphere
>Sonic kicks the conch over the horizon without realizing that the Zeti hate everyone and now also have Eggman's entire army
>Sonic falls hook, line and sinker for the Zeti's trap, the only reason he isn't captured and ganged up on is because Tails saved him
Everything surrounding these moments may be shit, but the moments themselves are probably the only examples of Sonic's impatience being properly utilized as a character flaw of his.
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>>537250781
Smooching Nicole~
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Okay but
Revive Gerald
Make a story about that
And pitch Sonic against Eggman
Shadow against Gerald
Silver against Sage
And Amy against Metal
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>>537250014
Somebody has a secret CD compilations under the bed in a box full of sins.
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>>537251027
Yeah you can tell Lost World was written primarily by someone outside of Sonic Team without being told
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>>537251027
thing is people don't want sonic to have flaws because him having flaws goes against what he's been for 30 goddamn years fuck Lost World, fuck Archie, Fuck IDW, fuck Prime and fuck you. You don't like it, eat shit and die Sonic is for kids imagine if Mario were written like he is in the movie, people would fucking hate it
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>>537251192
Windbro please calm the fuck down
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>>537250905
If Jewel was real, how many hours of the day would you spend fucking her, and how would you convince her that breeding her as much as possible is strictly necessary?
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>>537251117
nuh uh
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>>537251068
>Sage
*Eggman Nega

You Silverfags fought tooth and nail against Blazefags over "ownership" of Eggman Nega and now you want to throw him away because of Ian's seed planting dialog that likely no one will care about?
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>>537251117
>>537251284
KISS ALREADY
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>>537250819
Dingo's body mass can change and transform at will.
If he eats a chaos emerald, he transforms into a liquid kaiju
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>>537249616
Classic Sonic
https://youtu.be/Ejt94RWhq5s?si=31pmu2a-D7Ltm1yj
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>everyone on Twitter shitting on the song lyric dialogue shit in Crossworlds
>he's just gonna double down in Frontiers 2
Why is this hack still employed?
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>>537251562
Sonic's wife is so fuckable.
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>>537250819
Delicious, isn't it.
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>windfags would rather defend the Egg Moon episode of Sonic X than admit Lost World's story had even just a single merit
I find this so absurd that it's humorous to me.
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>>537251546
Because it's either him or Evan.
Pick your poison.
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>>537251546
sega still gets money so who cares what shippers and autists on twitter think
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>>537251265
I do have a thing for impregnation, but i think it wouldn't either work (speciation is too great) or the pregnacy would kill her which is something i don't want. When it comes to dogs husbandry you want the male to be smaller for obvious reasons so the female can getstate without problems. Guess it's the smae for blobians.
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>>537251546
At this point, I'm convinced his wage is $10 a script. But seriously, what's the lowest you can pay a freelancer? Because I'm certain whatever that it is that's how much Sega pays Ian.
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>>537251546
Spite and Sega doesn't give that much fucks only slapping him down on shit like trying to shove Sticks into the main line, trying to make Team Dark nakama, trying to make Amy give up on Sonic, Trying to make Knuckles wanna leave his island, trying to make Tails stop being a bitch, trying to make Silver and Blaze more than just friends, trying to make Eggman Egg Hitler again instead of Bowser and trying to force the hooligans into the main line they made his ass break them up in the comics just to shit on that idea even further and bring back their origins like Bean's sports obsession and Bark being able to talk he got to name a motherfucker who ain't gonna appear again any time soon so he has that at least
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>>537251632
it's actually insane that there are people who will swear up and down that the egg moon episode is superior than lost world and that in some way it greatly speaks to the inner depths of sonic or some stupid bullshit
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>>537251397
No, we're gonna fight.
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Sonic underground turns 26…
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>>537251854
Sex is a kind of fighting...
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>>537251925
How old does that make Manic and Sonia?
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>>537251837
>Sonic you are so smart. who knew the sun rises during day and sets during night. you really do have IQ of 178. you are the best and we are unworthy
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>>537251854
All I am gonna fight is my demons on my dreams right now since I am going to bed, insomnia is still hitting me hard and is REALLY late! It was nice talking to you as always, cute fionaposter!!!
>>537251980
Nothing is gonna happen in my bed besides sleeping, don't be lewd, anon!
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>>537251837
Is it better to have a bad story that stays true to Sonic's narrative intents and philosophies or have a good story that disregards those philosophies in service of a well structured plot?
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>>537252345
the latter. what "philosophies"? that sonic likes to do whatever he wants?
also pic unrelated, right?
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>>537252223
Good night pinkoid.
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It's so transparent when it's revealed why Sonic is fucking up the egg sun things, it's so they can have all the characters say Sonic is the smartest by a mile, that Sonic alone is smarter than everyone all at once, including Tails, all the governments, militaries, FUCKING ASTRONAUTS, and we may as well include Eggman himself because he not only thought this would work, but he did it so he could become president.

Sonic is smarter than ALL of them, doesn't that make him your favorite character now? No? W-well then you never liked this franchise to begin with, you fake fan! Go back to /co/!
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So, no Sonic Sexworlds?
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arguing with windfags is difficult because they operate on kitchen nightmares logic.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mLNnDWdce-o

The human known as "Gordon Ramsey" is not represented in his shows. The shows are scripted to portray him as this larger than life figure who is ALWAYS RIGHT about cooking no matter what and every time someone is in any way against him, they are wrong. He is always morally correct.
It doesn't matter if there aren't objective measures to the things he yells about, he is always right.
If a kitchen goes out of business, the show will frame it as if its because the chefs did not listen to Ramsey's teachings. If a kitchen succeeds, it must always be because of Ramsey.
When you really take your head out of the show and use your brain like a functioning adult you realize that none of this actually makes any sense. He's just a rich guy who is also a chef. He does know what he's talking about but he is not the greatest chef in the universe, there is no universal standard for great tasting food, and he is not an economist who can accurately predict what would save a business.

Sonic narratives are like this. You can argue with windfags about if a story is actually good in the "traditional" sense or if it's even ENTERTAINING. For them that is not the issue. The issue is authenticity. Is it authentic to the Sonic from the games? (primarily those from the 2000s)
IF not, it is bad. It does not matter if it's more fun to watch, it does not matter if it has more depth, better reviews, entertains more people, or really any other comparable measure. What matters is the authenticity.
The measure of good, like with Ramsey, isn't actually set by any standard you would use in any other situation. The measure of "Good" is "Sonic" himself. The less "Sonic" the less "good" and what makes "Sonic" is an interpretation in-line with Yuji Naka's work.

This is why Windfags "always win". They are arguing from a different standard.
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>>537252821
WHERE OOOONE IS ALL
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>>537251818
>and Bark being able to talk

It's funny how Ian's headcanon on Bark began to crumble when his profile was discovered and Sega or their AM2 division took notice on him along with Bean.

>Bark was at first a mute goon of Fang's fully under Ian.
>Then it's said not really a bad guy, he just hangs around bad people.
>Now it's said he only associates with Fang for reasons he "keeps to himself" and is someone of "few words" which implies he does in fact speak.
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I like bullying Tails players as Cream
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>>537253035
Must be a fetish.
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>>537252895
*farts in my hand, puts it to your face* this is my wind. here. take. smell
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>>537253132
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Unfortunately Rouge will never fuck you because she's a lesbian and she fucks Topaz
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>>537252345
I'd rather shove this false dilemma of yours up your ass and have a good story that stays true to Sonic's character, one that doesn't frame the character as being Super Jesus, Squared.
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>Rouge explaining Sonic's character tropes in the eggmoon arc even though this specific incarnation of Rouge has not even had a conversation with Sonic before now
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>>537252445
Philosophies like those displayed in 06, or that one Sonic X episode where Rouge turns to the camera and explains Sonics philosophies.

Also, the Sonic Boom comic was a very funny with a more constant world and continuity than anything ST made; but it wasn't a Sonic comic, it was a well made comic that featured a guy that looked like Sonic, and maybe that's why it worked so well.
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>>537252895
There is people who actually like Sonic
And there is people who just like the idea of blue fast hedgehog with attitude
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Fuck Ian's headcanon.
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>>537250716
I'll discuss the matters later since you just went to bed.
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I love bullying Tails players as Nine.
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Underrated waifu.
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>>537253364
X Sonic knew what Chaos Control was before he saw Shadow do it, it's possible he and Rouge knew each other, but we have no way of knowing that because X would rather put her with literally any other character but Sonic.
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>>537253402
it is possible to make jokes, some of them funny, in the sonic the hedgehog universe franchise world brand. and better still. it is possible to make those jokes withouSONIC 06 BAD HA
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>>537253402
>Philosophies like those displayed in 06, or that one Sonic X episode where Rouge turns to the camera and explains Sonics philosophies.
those are not "philosophies" that's just good ol lore. "Sonic is free and does whatever he wants because he is the wind" is not philosophy.
discussing philosophies would be like in Fate: StayNight where Gilgamesh explains how entertainment works to Kirei and what measures people will take to entertain themselves. Now that's philosophy
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I LOVE BULLISM (when i'm not bullied)
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>>537253273
A good Sonic story kind of requires Sonic to be Super Jesus, squared.

Modern Sonic is basically furry Superman.
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>>537253273
Sonic is basically Superman except instead of trying to be this perfect being he is already a perfect being.
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>>537236764
>How does /sthg/ feel about Shadow's new protagonist status?
20 years strong.
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So can Shadow use Chaos Control without an Emerald or not
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>>537236764
>How does /sthg/ feel about Shadow's new protagonist status?
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>Shadow gets pushed into MC status
>Shadouge is getting more popular and no one wants Shadow to get cucked by Knuckles
It's over.
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>>537253668
>Fate: StayNight
Fate/ Zero*
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>>537254006
He officially needs an emerald to use Chaos Control. That is the "Canon" answer. If you were to write dialogue about Shadow's abilities you would have to have the characters say that he needs a Chaos Emerald to use Chaos Control. End of story.

Regardless of that official media has always contradicted it. In gameplay and in cutscenes he will use Chaos Control without having an emerald. Even as late as the movies he is spamming Chaos Control non stop without having an emerald.
"Chaos Energy" is not really its own thing in the games. It is specifically energy from the emeralds themselves. Chaos abilities need the emeralds.

Yes, it does not function that way in practice. There is a structural difference in how its portrayed and how its described. You just kind of have to go with it like how Charizard is only five feet tall.
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>>537253615
Didn't say 06 was bad, just used it as an example of media showcasing Sonic's true philosophies. I was mostly working off the idea that the Egg Moon episodes from X were "bad", but still thematically sound for on-brand Sonic, and wondering if that had value.

Also, genuinely curious, what's the funniest on-brand joke the Sonic games have had?
Hard mode: find one from the Dark Age
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>>537254306
The entire fact that Emerl's name is just a lazy name from Sonic that Tails just went with
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>>537253668
If one lives their life a certain way and that way gets conveyed or imparted onto others, that way becomes a philosophy; and that's the bedrock of Sonic, especially Modern Sonic.
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>>537254182
Shadow can use short teleportation called "Chaos Snap" without a Chaos Emerald and people often confuse it for Chaos Control.
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>>537254785
This sucks. literally babby shit.
>that's the bedrock of sonic
Guess I'm a fake fan then and I should go back to /co/. or maybe I am just too much of a Shadowfag
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>>537254854
it's still chaos
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feels like it's going to be another weekend wasted doing nothing :/
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h31bXWfoO_E
I watched this vid and then many of the uploader's other videos because people posted them here and said they were making a flawed argument.
I know that the uploader is transgender, I don't know what they preferred to be called. They have a male voice. To avoid any confusion I'm just calling the person "they". I really don't care about the politics of this subject.

This video was repeatedly being used to defend Sonic's characterization in idw, but the argument in the video has nothing to do with that. Despite opening the video with complaints about Blade of Courage discussion, this video is strictly about the videogames.
When you reduce the "Japan purist" debate to the games, then yes, the inconsistencies between the english and japanese dialogue are practically miniscule until the 2010s.
The uploader admits to not checking every game.
The uploader admits to not watching Sonic X to confirm if it characterizes Sonic any differently from the comics.
The uploader diverts the ending of the video to argue that many JP purists just hate lgbt people and attack IDW because it appeals to lgbt people. I don't have twitter and I have no interest in verifying this ending part.

I don't know what the true purpose of this video is. It is arguing against people who say "Blade of Courage is more in-character than American content". Which is an interesting argument to make. I would love to actually see the video do that. But instead it just brings up that the english dubs of the games are not that different from the japanese dubs.
The author uses Colors as an example of a counter-argument to their own video. I think it's nice that they are honest about the fact that some Sonic games have ridiculously different dubs/subs.

No jp purist cares about this. Everyone agrees. Its IDW vs BOC and the video completely ignores THIS conflict.
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>>537251326
>You Silverfags fought tooth and nail against Blazefags over "ownership" of Eggman Nega
We never did, some fags think his story in rivals was "good"
He sucks dick and we never wanted him, plus it's much more comfortable for everything if you don't complicate things and keep him in the sol dimension.
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Gayos Cumtrol
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>>537255551
Gayos Gap
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Ian believes Shadow shouldn't be a main character and it should be Knuckles instead. Shadow at most should be a guest character like Blaze.
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>>537255731
Who cares, not his franchise and Shadow makes megabucks unlike Knuckles
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Crazy how Shadouge just wins by default of making Shadow an MC and he needs token girl to go along with him. Knuckles really stood no chance, he got robbed on all fronts
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>>537255517
>This video was repeatedly being used to defend Sonic's characterization in idw, but the argument in the video has nothing to do with that.
>The uploader diverts the ending of the video to argue that many JP purists just hate lgbt people and attack IDW because it appeals to lgbt people.
Reminds me of how this video about Amy's damaged characterization (I watched it because it's one of vanishingly few that acknowledge Sega's screwed up scriptwriting system for Frontiers), and how it's treated as the devil by the usual suspects because the uploader coincidentally had a different video criticizing Guilty Gear Strive retconning Bridget.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5wPQsWzrSsI
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THE AUTISTS ALL LEFT AND THIS THREAD IS SUPERDEAD!

AAAA...IF ONLY WE HAD THE 7 CHAOS EMERALDS!
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>>537255953
There is something kind of poetic about how knuxouge was almost permanently written off in 2008 and then swiftly saved (inadvertedly) by Penders.
So now it's still "up for debate" even though Rouge objectively spends more time around Shadow and only has emotional moments with, specifically, Shadow.
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>>537255731
>>537255953
Shadow is meant to be another Sonic therefore main character potential
Knuckles is the opposite of Sonic therefore he's a side character
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First fag who will send a video of Silver saying that he dreamt of this absolution gets a cookie from M.E.
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>>537256017
Yeah. I know this exact one. A lot of the arguments in this video are completely ignored because "oh so you agree with THAT guy".
The Bridget video provides a convenient excuse to not engage with the argument at all. Worse yet, a "moral" motive to just ignore observable facts.
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>>537256040
I like this big chin, square jaw look for Eggman. It's pleasingly cartoony but not goofy.
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>>537256159
Where're her clothes
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>>537255731
Not Ian’s characters, not Ian’s franchise. Shadow makes money, Ian can seethe about it and kill himself while he’s at it.
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>>537255517
This is seriously my problem with the video. Because it could have made an interesting point if he didn't fucking undermine it.
>People say BOC is in character and IDW is not
>I will argue with them by saying the american dubs of the games are not OOC.
This is just fucking stupid. Especially using the 2000s games as an example. Everyone knows that they dubs in the 2000s are basically the same thing with some edge and the 2010s and 2020s go off the rails.
If he really wanted to make a point he would use similarities between the games and IDW.
JP purists who hate IDW could watch this video from beginning to end and not see a single reason to change their mind.
NO JP PURIST ALIVE is freaking out because the ending of Shadow the Hedgehog forgot to translate "Sayonara, Sonic the Hedgehog" for the final time. EVERYONE knows what it was going for. Why even draw attention to the comic debate if the video is going to focus on something that isn't even controversial?
It's like he realized IDW's characterization CAN'T be defended and picked a different subject.
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Infinite or Nine? Who fits the school shooter type better?
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>>537256729
Infinite vaguely defeated a bunch of nameless people and Nine destroyed the multiverse and was only able to be defeated on his own terms

Nine effectively killed every child in every universe at once.
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It's utterly over
Characters could speak in song lyrics and these fags would still not find any fault at Ian's side.
Voice directors, mandates, editors, or Sonic fags who don't enjoy anything, choose your pick
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>>537252821
Y ou will become the raped
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>>537254306
>what's the funniest on-brand joke the Sonic games have had?
>Hard mode: find one from the Dark Age
SA-55 fucking with Eggman in Unleashed.
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I find it extremely fucking funny how violent all the characters are between the CG opening and the new animation. They're just tearing up everything and killing each other
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>>537257113
My headcanon is that twitterfags will vehemently defend Ian at every possible opportunity purely because they hate Evan more and don't want her to take over as a main writer on the games.
There's no other possible explanation for why they would simp for him this hard.
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>>537256729
Nine easily.
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>>537257268
sonic prime almost made me forget that sonic media is pretty edgy overall
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>>537257113
EN voice cast problem is valid but damn this people will do crazy mental gymnast just to defend Ian Flynn
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>>537257268
As it should be. All the characters being one big happy family is a nu-thing. Old games always had them fighting each other for the pettiest reasons.
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>>537257294
Evan would be an objective improvement over Ian except for Silver's characterization lol
>>537257353
I think it's a bit of both. Amy could have delivered all of those lines in a more aggressive tone and most of us wouldn't have a problem. Kind of like how Rouge says "Whatever" in Shadow gens and in english it makes it sound like she's being dismissive and in japanese it sounds like she's just over it.
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>>537257294
Reddit seems to defend Ian too
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>>537257294
what
no
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>>537257113
>Ian admits he wrote the script
>"This isn't a Ian Flynn problem"
>Somehow it's the voice director's fault
Ian could rob a Convenience Store and his fans would blame the schmuck at the register.
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>>537257113
I think she just doesn't know what he's complaining about. He's talking about the song reference and she's thinking about how bad Amy sounds. Although the defense force's mental gymnastics are so bad that they would blame the direction for song references.
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You guys ever forget that Amy just doesn't like Vector? At all? It's mutual too, Vector doesn't like her either.
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>>537257346
>sonic prime characters in game sonic world
Imagine how edgy Nine becomes. Dunno about Knuckles the Dread and Rusty Rose.
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>>537257889
Why doesn't Amy like Vector anyway?
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>>537257530
Evan's Silver characterization is way better than Ian's right now.
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>>537257980
He is a ligger
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>>537257889
She seems to really hate all the chaotix in heroes for whatever reason. She’s constantly calling them losers in their boss fight.
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>>537257980
Free Riders laid it out.

It's because he's reptilian, Sonic's World is very racist unfortunately
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>Silverfags want their hero to be more aggressive
>it works and now Silver is more likable
>..
>all of the sudden Amyfags want her to be aggressive too??
erm Amyfags can you guys stop trying to ape other characters already?
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>>537258226
But Amy likes Trip and she's reptilian
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>>537258226
Free Riders had a shitpost dub like TSR.
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I think more franchises should be like Sonic. Give me Strawberry Shortcake stopping a missile crisis. Give me Tony the Tiger fighting the embodiment of hatred. Keep them acting like themselves in these high stress situations. I love seeing cartoon characters in higher more serious stakes. It feels like when it comes to the west only the TMNT really do this all the way and nobody else. That's part of what makes Sonic feel so cool. The juxtaposition IS the cool part.
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>>537258232
I really hate that image you're posting
Stop doing that
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>>537258298
>>537258226(me)
This is from the Japanese dub
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>>537258232
Silver and Amy are both supposed to be rude characters.
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>>537258232
Amy always had a temper before Silver existed
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>>537254306
Sonic and Tails casually barging into the president’s limo while he’s freaking out always slays me.
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>Mobius sure is boring around here
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i'm sorry. uwuver is one of the funniest fucking things to ever happen to a character.
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>>537258287
>he doesn't know about Trip being a backstabber and falling in love with Fang
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>>537258507
Oh I didn't see that. I just reflexively point that out every time people talk about Free Riders.
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>>537258317
Walt Disney and Hannah Barbara forever set the hard standard and expectation for cartoon characters being silly, cute and goofy in the west
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>>537246461
Isn't that actually good? There will be less copies of your character running around. You won't be a Shadow tailed by Shadow driving behind a Shadow, with Shadow in the back of the course throwing green glove at you and another Shadow casting the ghost punch at you like I sometimes see. I will play Nines together with Tails, I don't see the downside here.
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>>537258513
honorifics are stupi
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If you look around you then you may realize happiness lies TRAPPED in MISERY...
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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=YLcyJ6MfiGE
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d
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>>537258287
That's Classic Amy, Modern Amy's more competent, and friendly dimensional counterpart.

Modern Trip does exist but Modern Amy doesn't really keep up, to her Modern Trip is just
> "On her island of course..."
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>>537258527
And you fags wanted that to disappear because you tough she acted like a stalker.
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>>537258734
Free Rider's writing quality transcends language barriers
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Chubby boyo
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>>537258931
It's not Christmas
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>>537258736
>Disney
They had the blueprint over 20 years ago and deliberately sabotaged it so that they would have an excuse to never make 2D films ever again, simultaneously setting in the precedent that kids don't want action movies and teens don't want animation.
Even the Sonic movies would probably play out differently if Disney cared about their early 2000s outings.
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>>537259113
Amy got flanderized during the mid 2000s where her love for Sonic became less wholesome and genuine to being treated more like a joke
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>>537258527
Amy being aggressive is something invented to differentiate herself from Cream

Yes Classic Amy was energetic but that doesn't mean she was aggressive. She wasn't aggressive in either of the Adventure games
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>>537259358
This. A lot of people who aggressively defend 2000s Amy forget that the media around that time was intentionally making her the butt of the joke. Something you mock and get annoyed by.
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>>537259358
Was this X's fault or Heroes?
Heroes established the more assertive Amy, but X had more availability and longevity.
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>>537259398
I said Amy has a temper, not that she was full blown agressive. Her temper is shown in the Adventure games
Classic Amy didn't have any temper but she never had a story all about her either
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>>537254182
"Chaos Control" is Shadow's core ability.

Lore-wise, concept-wise, Shadow is just a Sonic clone.

Sonic has Speed and can harness the power of the Chaos Emeralds, so Shadow can do the same thing. Shadow introduces a new technique that can be used with the Chaos Emeralds, that being "Chaos Control", and naturally Sonic can do it too after learning it. But, in practicality... "Chaos Control" becomes the defining core specialty of Shadow specifically, in-contrast to Sonic's being just "Speed" alone. This means that Shadow is consistently depicted as using "Chaos Control" as his main superpower with a whole skill-tree branching from it.

"Chaos Control" is what Shadow DOES. That is who he IS. Sonic runs, Tails flies, Knuckles punches and Shadow uses Chaos Control. This is how Shadow is used as a character.

But it directly contradicts what "Chaos Control" is supposed to be. It is "supposed to be" the ability to warp time and space using the CHAOS EMERALD'S POWER specifically, and this is something Sonic, Shadow & Silver can do when they have a Chaos Emerald on hand to draw power from. If they do not have a Chaos Emerald, THEY CAN NOT USE CHAOS CONTROL.

OR -ANY- OTHER CHAOS ABILITY.

-HOWEVER-, Shadow the Hedgehog as a character is so defined by "Chaos Control", that he MUST have Chaos Control usage 24/7 despite not always having an Emerald, as it is what is ALWAYS used to differentiate him from Sonic.

Shadow the Hedgehog is functionally a clone of Sonic the Hedgehog. Sonic & Shadow both have the same ability to use "Chaos Control". But because Shadow is the one who introduced the ability, "Chaos Control" is used to DIFFERENTIATE Sonic's skills from Shadow's skills. But the result completely contradicts the lore of both the series and the characters themselves.

In short: Shadow is completely breaking the lore of the franchise in order to justify his own existence as a distinct character from Sonic. Without Chaos Control, he is just Sonic.
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>>537259535
Heroes Amy was being sarcastic and because most modern sonic fans only watched the cutscenes they completely overlook the ingame dialogue where its blindingly obvious that she isn't there to force Sonic to marry her and was just using that to intimidate him before the fight. Battle was WAY worse.
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>>537259358
>to being treated more like a joke
that was the point tho
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>>537259582
Ok but the original comment was about Amy being made aggressive which is correct
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>>537258014
>Evan's Silver characterization is better than Ian
Lol, point at laugh at this stupid retard faggot
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>>537259262
He probably ate too much chocolate mint.
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More racism in my Sonic franchise please
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>>537259638
Shadow can use Chaos abilities without an emerald. Chaos Control is the thing that specifically requires an emerald because he is tapping into Chaos itself.
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>>537259983
based
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>>537259983
Against which race?
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>>537260004
This is the solution to the overall problem, which only exists because Shadow's character contradicts itself in order to have him exist as a character in general.
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>>537259854
Evan didn't draw that.
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>>537259854
It is. You're just conflating the art with how he's written.
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>>537259778
Amy's love for Sonic is genuine, not a joke about Amy being crazy and overly possesive over someone
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>>537260004
>Shadow's chaos control
better than Sonic's
>Shadow's speed
faster than Sonic's
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>>537259854
Isn't picrel just fanart

>>537259952
He just likes eating
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>>537260039
Oh no... THEY CAPTURED SPARKY!
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>>537260141
Holy hips
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>>537259864
ROUGE BOOBIES
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>>537260207
the dynamic is supposed to be a gag that is not taken seriously and does not develop
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NOOOOOOOOO A GIRL CANT LOVE A BOY NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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>>537260147
Shadow really feels like a character from another series that somehow ended up in Sonic
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>>537260452
this is sexist bigotry, probably, I'm assuming - probably racist as well no doubt
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No one can possibly make Amy black
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>>537254182
>Even as late as the movies he is spamming Chaos Control non stop without having an emerald.
Because the movie never established that he needed to have one, it can be assumed that he just doesn't and can freely do it like Boomdow can.
There's a moment in Shadow Gens where he tricks Sonic with the fake emerald, and it makes no sense for him to do that unless Shadow can't do Chaos Control without the genuine article, yet Shadow's progression through The Last Way in ShTH demands that he use it anyway, as in, you cannot finish the level and progress to the Devil Doom fight unless Shadow uses Chaos Control, even though we know Doom has all of the emeralds.
So, real emerald > no emerald > fake emerald, somehow.
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>>537260556
He should really just be removed from the Sonic series and given his own stuff
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>>537260578
>knuxails
>knuxouge
>even rails
>amy selfcest orgy

damn prime ships are wild
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>>537260150
>>537260196
Inspired by who, if I may ask? …Yeah that’s what I thought
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>>537260616
Akctually it is gender binaristic mysogenic bigotry, with a hint of racism or something.
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Sonic Adventure 2's narrative around Chaos Control frames it within the context of Sonic having a special ability to harness the Chaos Emeralds' power already, Shadow just introduced a new technique within that ability. So once Sonic learned it himself, it SHOULD have been a staple in Sonic's own skillset from that point forward. This speedster character leveling up by warping time and space in a variety of ways, which also reflects the fact that the power source he's drawing from is "Chaos".

But what ended up happening is all the Chaos- stuff being delegated ONLY to Shadow, so Sonic just sticks to the same things he's always done, creating an artificial distinction between the two. So any naive soul would draw the false conclusion that these abilities are either exclusive to Shadow, or that he is way better at it than Sonic is. A conclusion that defies the narrative of SA2 itself, where Sonic's own mastery of the ability is highlighted as superior to Shadow.

It's like the status quo necessitated time-locking Sonic & Shadow in their very first encounter, where Shadow is the one who knows about Chaos Control while Sonic doesn't, in order to keep them distinct from one another. But that distinction is inherently flawed because it is specifically designed to frame Shadow as superior.

Shadow is the rival who mirrors Sonic in every way, except for this flashy new technique Sonic has never used before. Hence why the narrative has Sonic learn it too, and prove to be better at it than Shadow. Trying to keep Chaos Control effectively Shadow-exclusive just makes him "the better Sonic" which directly harms Sonic's character.

Because then people like Ian end up thinking that Shadow is literally just another Sonic with too many "extra" superpowers that Sonic "doesn't have", which harms both characters on a conceptual level and a practical level of just having them both exist in stories at the same time with this massive imbalance.
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>>537260141
Colono's Salugh art lives rent free in my mind. We rarely ever get any "story" writefaggotry from him and that was just a fetishistic joke but it really stuck with me.
I think he's a secret genius.
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>>537260731
>amy selfcest orgy
I feel like selfcest is the only thing i never heard about, i thought i witnessed the bottom already but i'm clearly wrong.
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>>537259651
>Sarcastic
Perhaps, but the "marry me" line Heroes is a strange mutation of when it was also used in SA2. In SA2, it leads to Amy freeing Sonic and in Heroes it leads to Amy fighting Sonic.

Heroes just had a weird story with confusing stakes.
and it's proof that Dark Age ST had completely forgotten how to write Classic Sonic stories
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Sonic Prime and IDW both articulate into specific words that Shadow needs a chaos emerald to use chaos control .The way this plays out makes it sound like someone at sonic team had to explain it to the writers and they felt like it needed to be said out loud.
In fact, there's two scenes in Sonic Prime that seem to just stop just for the sake of articulating how Shadow's powers work.
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Ian was right
Sage made Eggman worse
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>>537260373
The gag is that Sonic is all about his freedom and not be tied down in a relationship and Amy is determined to be with him
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>>537260929
I hate my newfaggotry, you always manage to trigger my curiosity.

I wonder how much shit i saved without knowing the history behind, this place needs a wiki.
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>>537261093
Make no mistake. She wants to marry him, but in context it's not nearly as bad as people pretend it is.
The scene is entirely played off as her trying to beat the shit out of Sonic to make her marry him. She's trying to make Sonic stay so that he can answer for the accusation against him in the newspaper.
It's like if the Kanker sisters had a legitimate reaso to ruin the eds day but simply flirted as a battle cry.
The fact that heroes relegates so much dialogue into the gameplay makes it so that fans who watch the cutscenes on youtube completely overlook this.
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>>537261170
It's a gag and playing it in a psychotic way was a natural progression for those who write and know it. but not many fans liked it
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>>537261093
The "marry me" line in Heroes, from my perspective, is just Amy wanting Sonic to notice her. In JP, she says "today's the day I'll get you to marry me", which just sounds like she believes that after this encounter, there's no way Sonic wouldn't be head over heels in-love with her.

Amy wants to be so beautiful and strong and perfectly ideal for Sonic, and she thought she'd reached that peak during that encounter in Heroes. Like, in her mind, she's fantasizing about Sonic getting down on one knee and begging for Amy's hand in marriage, and then Amy can pull the "by that point, it'll be too late" thing she talked about in SA1.
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>>537260836
06 established that Sonic doesn't use Chaos Control because he just doesn't think to, he forgets that it's a thing he can do three times in the story, which is fucking retarded.
The meta answer probably is that it was going to be reserved for when Sonic got serious, but then they decided to bring Shadow back for Heroes and things got retarded from there.
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>>537261241
This place can be confusing sometimes. Two of our contentfags appear to be the same person, but the only way you can tell is by noticing that they both fit in the same "fag" categories.
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>>537260749
This is what Evan's Silver looks like now. Her writing of him has improved too. Meanwhile Ian is responsible for making Silver shy and polite instead of direct and rude, having him trip over stupid details when Silver is supposed to be straight to the point, coleslaw, being a dork and repeating his mistakes until everyone hated him in Archie.
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>>537261157
But Ian pushed Eggdad.
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>>537261285
You're right about the in-level dialogue, but that really highlights how strange ST's decision to make crucial character writing exclusive to levels the player is trying to beat quickly.
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>>537261626
So basically, Shadow's existence almost holds Sonic back as a character by trying to prolong the SA2 rivalry while also backpedaling away from its conclusion. We can't have Sonic using Chaos Control as the "real Ultimate Lifeform" if we want Shadow to keep existing in the roster as the dark Sonic rival shrouded in "mystery".
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>>537256248
She ordered sexy. She probably wants sex. Or at least a hug. But when you think about it, isn't sex just an advanced form of hugging?
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>>537261570
SEX
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The problem with Sonic & Shadow is that on a meta-level, they are time locked in Green Forest / White Jungle.
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>>537261775
Yeah. I wouldn't have a problem with this if there weren't multiple examples of important story dialogue taking longer to hear than the amount of time a ten year old could beat the boss.
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>>537261806
Even when Shadow is not the games, Sonic doesn't use Chaos Control either
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>>537261741
The weird thing is Ian wrote Silver a little decently at the start when he appeared in Archie, but at one point Silver became extra dorky and lost a lot of backbone and that stuck with the character all the way to IDW.
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>>537261958
TRIP ATE FANG
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>>537261806
To be fair, Sonic does use chaos attacks more in Frontiers, he just doesn't announce them, he even uses what looks like Chaos Spear and Sonic Wind against Knight and Giganto.
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>>537262123
>Oriental City
...
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>>537261775
This is a real issue. It takes perhaps a minute for a kid to learn how they're supposed to beat Devil Doom. Five minutes or less to actually beat him. Nine minutes before Eggman admits Shadow is the real Ultimate Life Form.
You have to drag your feet.
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>>537261806
We have already seen what happens to this series when Shadow is missing, it turns into complete baby slop
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>>537261373
>"by that point, it'll be too late"
So the Classic critics of the early aughts were right about Amy being a yandere stalker. I guess "Sweet Passion" really did lays it all out and Dark Age Sonic was just running from the bad vibes. lol
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>>537262226
'Sonic makes a pose and damage numbers fly around the screen'

BRAVO
etc
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>>537262027
Because "Chaos Control" effectively doesn't exist lore-wise unless Shadow is around.

Look at SA1 and Rush. Both heavily involve the concept of controlling the power of the Emeralds, and how that's done. Does anything resembling Chaos Control come up at all, despite both using Sonic as the one true master of controlling chaos? No. Sure, SA1 came before SA2, but Rush has no excuse. It's all about Sonic having control over the Chaos Emeralds while Blaze didn't know how to control the Sol Emeralds, yet the concept of "Chaos Control" or its Sol counterpart just doesn't exist.

>>537262226
No, he doesn't. Sonic's shockwave attacks aren't chaos powers. That's just Sonic using the wind and his speed in much flashier ways than usual, not chaos attacks.
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>>537262123
Did that guy think Tails was like a Saiyan?
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>>537262113
This, silverfags who keep sucking Evan's transgirl cock are gonna have to kill themselves in the future
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>>537262190
Fang ate Trip
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>>537262436
>So the Classic critics of the early aughts were right about Amy being a yandere stalker
??? No?

What the heck did you think that line means?

Amy in SA1 talks about how she'll make Sonic turn around, but by then it'll be too late. She wants to flip the script so that SONIC is chasing HER... but SHE's the one running too fast for him now. SHE's the one living her own life of adventure, and SONIC is the one desperately trying to catch up. That's what she's after.

It's like if Tails dreamed about being Player 1 while Sonic is just HIS sidekick. It's all about flipping the script, reversing the roles, to put themselves above Sonic rather than below him.
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>>537262113
I think that DESPITE the fact that Ian and Evan keep things MORE in character than the movies, the reason they get grilled so harshley (Ignoring the obvious canonicity issue) is that Ian and Evan insert actual headcanons into the characters while the movies just exaggerate a trait to hell.
These are similar enough things but you can tell that Jeff Fowler doesn't have some secret belief that Sonic/Shadow/Knuckles act that way. He's barely a fan compared to Ian.
Ian is a Sonic fan with Sonic headcanons that he wants to be canon.
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>>537261665
Being such an attention whore he doubles his identity?
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Another controversial take!

I do not like this current obsession with trying to establish the franchise's deep lore as a selling point. I am starting to hate TailsTube because it is quickly becoming unfunny dialogue, bad characterizations, and nostalgia bait and nothing else.

The lore shit is just nostalgia bait in a different framing.
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>>537262862
It's an attempt at doing what the series was always doing before Unleashed: some light worldbuilding. They just aren't doing it well.
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>>537262027
>>537261806
Do you think ST would have integrated Chaos Control abilities, Shad05 style, into Sonic's moveset if they had treated Shadow's death as permanent like Gamma's? Or would they have been a one time thing for SA2's story?

Note: Birdie disappeared after SA1.
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>>537262856
She's better about it now compared to when she first drew you knew what
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Sonic & Shadow's rivalry peaked in SA2. The games after just tried to hit the reset button, and that's what Shadow's amnesia was for. Shadow 05 resolved the amnesia plotline with a new arc for Shadow, but it didn't resolve his rivalry with Sonic at all. Instead, they've just been stuck in the "I found you, faker!" moment forever. Where Sonic is chasing after Shadow and calling him an imposter, while Shadow is dismissive of Sonic at best and looks down on him at worst.

But the context of SA2 was building towards Shadow being very suspicious of Sonic's own nature in relation to himself, concluding with that cutscene where Shadow asks what Sonic is directly to him, and then the final boss where Shadow outright admits that Sonic might be the Ultimate Lifeform. All while Super Shadow effectively dies because he couldn't control the power like Sonic can.

But after bringing Shadow back, they basically went out of their way to pretend the entire ending of Sonic Adventure 2 never happened, just to keep Sonic & Shadow running in circles.

What would it have been like if Sonic & Shadow's rivalry was actually allowed to progress past Sonic Adventure 2's conclusion? If acknowledging Sonic as the Ultimate Lifeform and master of Chaos Control was made the new starting point?
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>>537262123
God his pussy game would be through the ROOF if he had a thing for human women.
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>>537262467
>'Sonic makes a pose and damage numbers fly around the screen'
You just described how Sonic Wind works in the Dark Story's final boss fight, Sonic strikes a pose and then a blue tornado appears out of nowhere on top of Shadow.
>>537262503
I'm not sure how you can call Cross Slash or Homing Shot wind when Sonic isn't kicking or striking at the air like he does for Sonic Boom, he's just making hand gestures, palms out for Cross Slash, ripping off Fleetway for Homing Shot.
What do you think the giant golden chains and tridents are made of? Wind? Elaborate, light producing constructs, made out of moving air?
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You guys say Flynns fans are super loyal but they actively do not want to support anything he makes that is not Sonic even telling him to shut up.

Barnes was able to push Endless Fantasia and it will probably get funded. Flynn somehow does not have that kind of power.
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>>537262862
My problem with TailsTube is I don't think Sonic Team even cares about what it says. Like, when Toyoda was localizing an episode he remarked about the western slang and memes.
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>>537263143
No no no anon we can't have beautiful human women anymore with the head lore team artist.
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>>537263236
Cross Slash description
>Circle the enemy and let loose a stream of shockwaves.

Homing Shot description
>Launch a volley of energy spheres at the enemy.

"Shockwaves" refers to wind, Sonic Booms, sound waves in the air, basically Thunder.
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>>537263252
It's because Ian is a bad writer. Even his fans know that, but they don't want to admit it. Hell, even Ian knows his fans don't care about anything he does outside of Sonic; he says he's seen as the spoon, not the soup.
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>>537263252
Would you rather
>lame feminist white guy
Or
>shallow shouennnigers who for some reason is into Steven Universe
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>>537263587
The bottom, but remove the Steven Universe preference. I don't know what people see in that show and why they're trying to integrate its style into Sonic.
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>>537262375
I guess ST was trying to keep the dialogue a secrets or use it as a form of encouragement for the player.

This use of in-level dialog was probably seen as an evolution of SA2's final boss, where a presumably struggling player will get gameplay hints and encouragement from the characters if they take a long enough time.
https://youtu.be/iZubgGKqR3s?si=oYXRW57CnOyq232R
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Next ian flynn fully written full control sonic game gon shut the haters up on god. He kno sonic and his effect on Archie proves that. Mark my words, new era coming as long as he succeeds.
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>>537263078
For being a shitty general you guys sure have an interesting ecosystem.
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>>537263842
Ian needs to know how to write first. He can't be successful relying on song lyrics as dialog, having characters act drastically different, wanting people to write plots for him by "planting seeds", and making whatever female character gay.
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Tails is cute!

>>537263343
I've been saying recently. TailsTube is just some comedic YouTube animation tie ins with some occasional light fanservice. They're not supposed to be taken seriously, but the way the fanservice is written tricks (perhaps intentionally) fans into thinking these shorts matter more than they really do. In reality they are just secondary side media like IDW, or even Sonic & Friends or the Takeovers, although a bit more serious and with more well thought out dialogue. The games (whether old or new) will still take precedence. You shouldn't expect these things, or even the English written game scripts, to have precedence over the actual stuff the Japanese developers put or have put in the games. Maybe they'll take some things from TailsTube, especially things that had positive reception among the fans, but it's not in the games until it actually is

I enjoy TailsTube for what it is, fun cute little shorts with some occasional hints of worldbuilding that may or, more likely may not, matter in the long run
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>>537263990
He wasn’t a part of the games at all at one point. A few years ago he was a comic writer. He’s on the incline, not the decline.
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>>537263737
You are a shallow nigger who's into cheap colorful fireworks. You are the problem, please leave the Sonic franchise immediately
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>>537261958
I'm happy they gave Dragon Trip a unique animation for the water slides, rather than turn her into a fireball. Wonder what other silly animations they would have given her if they had time.


Do you have Dragon Trip in zero-g
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WHITEBOARD
https://magma.com/d/XtMSgddJpT
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>>537264154
Sonic was always wannabe shounen. It's based off Dragon Ball. Removing that takes away Sonic's identity. Calling it shallow is calling Sonic shallow. You perhaps you should leave the franchise instead.
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>>537261958
>>537264193
They could had Super Trip transform into regular Trip but golden whenever Super Trip didn't fit, instead of the fireball
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>>537263343
That kinda sucks because the whole point of the series is to be in the unenviable position of keeping the lore of of 30+ year old game series in check. So basically none of that mattered.
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>>537263545
>energy spheres
Made of wind???
What about when Sonic maxes out his rings and gets the Power Boost? Is that electric-y wind making his eyes glow blue?
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Why is Sega pushing Shadow so hard? Normalfags still find him cringe and retarded.
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>>537264631
>Normalfags
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>>537264631
Listening to normalfags is what turned this series into boring baby slop
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>>537264796
I thought it was from listening to journalists and critics?
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>>537264537
The electricity is from Cyberspace.
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Pariah played Crossworlds for just an hour, got bored and dropped the game forever.
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>>537264704
Me and knuckles drinking at the pub.
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Why doesn't Crossworlds have a story? Is it gonna be DLC?
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Aqua Marine.
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>>537265381
Did any of the Sonic Racing games besides TSR have a story?
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>>537265194
Sonic doesn't get Homing Shot from freeing any of the characters and I'm not sure if you can or can't activate Power Boost before you unlock the Cyloop.
Like, if you can, then it's not a Cyberspace thing, unless you can only activate Power Boost before unlocking Cyloop through unintetional means or through NG+, then it is a Cyberspace thing, maybe, because the game never specifies where the electricity comes from.
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>>537264704
Find me one normalfag that knows what a K-Zone is.
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>>537265245
Me too, I'm gonna play MKW instead
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>>537265648
*holding your head in the toilet bowl* DO! NOT! ANSWER! QUESTIONS! WITH! MORE! QUESTIONS! *flushes*
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>>537265834
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>>537265381
This game is being sold on having Miku in it. A story mode about the Sonic characters would just amount to false advertising.
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>>537264796
Journos aren't "normal" they're just fucked up in the opposite direction.
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How far will Vector go to be Cream's step-dad?
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What did she mean by this?
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>>537265934
Anyone can make shit up on the Internet.
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>>537266153
Pretty far
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>>537266217
It always annoys me that Elias went on to marry someone who looks just as much like Sally as Sonic resembles Shadow.
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>>537265880
I'd rather wait for Air Riders than play that shit.
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>>537265435
>Blue with yellow eyes
Her and Tails would have this going on
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>>537265934
Xitterfags are not normalfags
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>>537264537
>>537265821
The "electricity" is because the Sonic from Sonic Frontiers is Sonic II who is Sonic & Surge's son, that's why he sounds different and has electricity. This will be teased in Hedgehog Bananza. Don't ask for it to make sense because when everything is canon then nothing is. Everything you know is
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>>537266153
But can Vector endure Cream's dad? Surely, Eggman misses Vanilla; and silicon replicas can only go so far...
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>>537266750
They are, they're part of the failed normalfag sub-type which is made of social rejects trying to normalize their illnesses above everyone else.
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>>537267019
>Sonic & Surge's son
Wrong. Surge has a human husband
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>>537265648
All three Riders games have story
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>>537267926
Not the Racing genre the Racing series. With crossover characters.
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>>537268078
Oh, you mean the Digital Sumo racing games, then you are right, only TSR had a story. I think it was also the only one without a crossover gimmick.
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>Appropriates the cute sungazer girl's traditional hairstyle then tells said sungazer girl to stay on her island.

Why is Modern Amy like this? Is this why everybody hates her in Crossworld?
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>>537268050
¡No! Mi zorro... Te quería... Por suerte, no puedes quejarte del atuendo con el que te enterraremos... No, no importa. Te enterraremos tal y como quieres que te recordemos. Encenderé una vela por ti cada año hasta que muera. Hasta que nos volvamos a encontrar...
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>>537269203
Gata mi amor.
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>>537269203
*tears up in tacos*
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>>537269378
¡Tailsito! ¡Estás vivo! ¿Cómo sobreviviste al brutal ataque de ese despreciable punk skater? Se había anunciado tu muerte y todo. Pensé que te había perdido...
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me and my girls <3
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Dead general that doesn't care about recent games
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>>537270228
I have multiple lives like a cat.
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>>537270414
real human being ... and a real hero...
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Tails
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That "get +20 to all stats on last lap" gadget seems trash and I don't see the point over the "get a free item every lap and 3 item cap" one. Maybe it's just bad matches though.
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>>537270705
It got reaaaaaaaally slow since the hack.

Although, 4chan in general halved its traffic in the last years. Even autists got tired.
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>>537270414
Built for anal
Built for anal
built for anal
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Does Cream wear panties or spats in the game? or is it just a hole?
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Chadails
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Do you think that Crossworlds will do well enough to get extra DLC? I am kind of now in the camp where I wish we got more characters from Sonic.
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Why is she not playable in a racing game?
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>>537271397
I think its cause everyone is playing Crossworlds
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>>537271789
I want her and GUN Commander. She makes sense if we get a wave 2 of DLC.
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>>537271738
I hope it does decent enough for DLC but I'm afraid it'll all be more crossovers. Maybe the IDW characters could make it

>>537271789
She doesn't have a 3D model
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>>537271697
Everyone loves best boy

>>537271791
I'm not right now but I'll play more later
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>>537271924
Then make one.
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I'm surprised no one is sharing CrossWorlds lobby codes. Probably because it's hidden inside 3 sub-menus
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>>537271791
No anon, this place used to consume more thteads per day months ago, now it's just 2-3, and it's not even more active during american hours since now every time i wake up i can easily reach the previous thread i was partecipating.

Maybe people have no reason to show up for a kart racer, they prefer normal games and non-gay comics, or maybe they really gave up.
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>>537271789
Because she hasn't had any presence in anything except for side media since Advance 2 and was never introduced into a console game as an npc.
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>>537270781
Ah, me dejas sin aliento. ¿Me has robado parte de mi vidas, pequeño avispado?
De todos modos, supongo que debería estar planeando una boda en lugar de un funeral, ¿no? ¡Tenemos muchos motivos para celebrar!
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>>537271738
I am 100% sure it's going to be a success, even Team Racing with 0 advertising, no crossovers like Miku and several times worse gameplay sold several millions apparently and this has tons of players already in the beta, but I think DLCwise there will be mostly crossovers. When it comes to SEGA, maybe another Yakuza guy the moment a new Yakuza game is being released, maybe another Total War rep. More Sonic characters may be included, but it's anyone's guess if and when.
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>>537272262
Too much effort, prease understand

>>537272180
What is his secret?
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>>537272336
We aren't friends
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>>537272338
It has more to do with the 4chan hack. Even then, the threads still have become faster since then
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>>537272351
She was in Rush, Sonic X and both Archie and IDW comics. As well as Sonic Channel stuff

I think Vanilla is probably the only Sonic Team character that has way more presence outside of the games than in the games themselves lol
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>>537271924
I am annoyed because there is a handful of game characters that deserve it.

IDW fans partially seem to want those two in just for the recognition not because they actually adore the hell out of them

Look GUN Commander deserves to make it in.
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>>537272474
If you say so, i perceive it slower.
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>>537272573(me)
>Sonic Team
Dimps*. Also there's other characters like Marine which only appeared in one game
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>>537272425
Although I love everything about him, the secret that holds it all together is the tails
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>>537266379
>9 out of 10 Eliasporn is with his sister
>The rest is with his mother, or gay
Elias is Sonic OC of Alabama
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It annoys the crap outta me that Amy was given all of lines that would have worked really well for Vanilla.
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>>537272783
*salutes*
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>human fetishist
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How many mods do you think will be made to replace Egg Pawn with their character of choice?
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>>537271738
I just want more sega characters in the base game, for a game called crossworlds that title seems mostly reserved for dlc so far. The roster screen looks fairly big so we'll probably see some other sega reps like aiai or a sakura wars sakura if sega remembers that series exists and had a new game a while back, or ulala, but it'd be nice if they showed more of them. Why the hell go for ichiban for the yakuza rep anyways, no one likes him as much as kiryu or majima.
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>>537272891
AKA a normal person.

>>537272971
It will be hilarious when console players start wondering why PC players really really love Egg Pawn.

>>537273014
I have no idea why Joker is not base game.
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>>537272573
>she hasn't had any presence in anything except for side media since Rush and was never introduced into a console game as an npc.
It's the same problem. They need to actually put her in a console game in someway outside of mentioning her name before using her in console spinoffs. They also probably wouldn't make Vanilla playable in any sort of game with action in it.
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Commander Tower in a kart based on a Spider Troop mech or Diablon Mech would be sick.
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I think the worst aspect of the crossover characters is how they hype them up. It feels so lame and cheap. Oh, THIS is what they want you to care about. This random thing showing up at the end of the trailer. It's supposed to be a Sonic game, but they want you to care about some other unrelated garbage instead. If it's a trailer for a Sonic game, what it should be doing is hyping people up for unexpected Sonic content showing up in a Sonic game. It should try to bring people in by showing them some Sonic related thing they might like, but instead it's completely backwards
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Where's the crossworld lobby bros?
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>>537273014
If you played Yakuza, you wouldn't be asking this. Ichiban is the new face of the franchise for a few reasons.
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Help, these past few threads are making me imagine Honey with a latina accent and it's doing things to my dick.
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What do you think will be the most popular early mod?
It is funny that having so many silent characters will probably make mods even more extravagant.
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>>537273634
>What do you think will be the most popular early mod?
Big Titty Rouge
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Makoto would be a great second persona 5 rep and we can have two phantom thieves
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>>537273634
A trans mod of some sort can easily be put on the early mod bingo board.
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Sonic & Tails
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>>537272573
She is in speed simulator.
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>>537273591
Tiara's heart belongs to Fiona, not gata puta.
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>>537273793
They'd do Morgana before any other PT because he's the mascot of that game. If not him, I could see them use Teddie to promote Revival when they start to show actual footage.
Captcha: SH4RT
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>>537273793
You're not gonna get to see her ass that well on the extreme gear, bro
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>>537274183
Queen uses a motorcycle though.
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>>537274297
>>537274306
That is my main reason for wanting her.
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>>537274306
So does Mitsuru and all of the Investigation Team but none of them are a cute mascot character like Morgana or Teddie.
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Shadowfags should consider killing themselves already
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>>537274097
What.
Don't look at me, I'm just here for the 'dogs 'n beans...
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>>537273175
>AKA a normal person.
A twitter nigger changing everyone into a nigger isn't normal
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>>537274592
You make a good point, fuck Persona 5 why aren't we getting a P3 rep like Mitsuru
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>>537274710
>*backs away into the kitchen to cry*
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>>537274749
They honestly could have used a P3 rep after Reload did so well but they're milking Joker as hard as they can after years of milking Narukami, who is about to be milked to death again.
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This is what happens when you haven't been in a game for years.
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>>537236764
God loves Chadow
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>>537251704
Now those are all excuses to no fuck your pocket pussy.
Also, isn't all you said rendered moot because she's a beetle, not even a mammal? She can safely lay an egg and size wouldn't be a problem. A human hybrid crawling out of an egg though... that's a deeply disturbing image.
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>>537273591
Caramiel "Honey the Cat" Gata
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>>537275720
I fail to see the problem
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>>537275929
Vanilla Pudding
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;)
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>>537275720 sex
>>537275929 Sex
>>537276152 SEX
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With the exception of cream who obviously has the biggest one. What are the rankings of futanari girlcock sizes in the sonic universe?
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>>537265435
cute
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PUT ME DOWN!
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>>537275216
Aigis is the P3 mascot.
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>>537276613
I think she's still on the table since she's a pretty popular character and also a cute mascot.
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>>537276469
Suéltalo, cacto negro!
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(pointing) there's another Cream in there. I helped put her in there
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>>537278159
>Shadow's game is canon
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>>537278159
I don't care about Twitter trends.
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the cars are wind
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>>537276357
why do people keep making her obese? that's gross
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https://files.catbox.moe/zhq7i8.mp4
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>>537278780
Have you ever had sex with a "curvy" chick?
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>>537278780
obese community
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>>537260406
2026: Rouge decides to give up gem collecting in favor of Tails collecting
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we're slowing down...
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>>537280191
Soon, this place will be another /fast/.
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>>537280638
soon...
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>>537279152
Who wants that?
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shitver
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>>537280817
People who want more to play with
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>>537280941
But less is more.
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it's a bit concerning
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*sigh* I said... ALTHOUGH WE OBVIOUSLY KNOW CREAM HAS THE BIGGEST ONE, WHAT ARE THE SIZE RANKINGS OF ALL THE FUTANARI GIRLCOCKS IN THE SONIC UNIVERSE?
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Best paring?
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>>537281575
Shadally
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>>537280965
Everyone has a preference, but there is truth to "more to love." Don't knock it 'til you try it.
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>>537241509
Don't you mean "girls for Shadow"
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>>537278159
>CHADow for president
>First thing is cutting aid off israel
>Second thing is carpet bombing israel
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>>537281691
I had a fat gf once and won't really repeat that.
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>>537282320
Pardon?
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dead general
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>>537282483
You heard me.
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>>537282051
The Ultimate King President Muchacho
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>>537282730
We are busy playing Crossworlds. Great experience so far.
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twinkhogs
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>>537282730
Been busy working on the Modern Sonic timeline.
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>>537255953
Her facial expressions looked so fucking hot when she was struggling to shrug off the Dad and Daughter duo, only to lit up like this when Shadow arrived. It's like depe down she knew he was there to save her.
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>>537283034
yes but don't slip up.
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>>537283343
Sonegg's daughter btw.
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PANTSU
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>>537283343
that's some next level drugs. whatever enjoy your time I guess
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>>537283401
rude
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>>537283810
Why doesnt shadow doesnt simply run over the slower hedgehog?
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>>537282320
'k, 'least you tried it.
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>>537283916
too easy
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What if sonic says he's not like the wind?
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https://x.com/Star_Wyse/status/1961493915925692678

This is the exact bullshit I was talking about a while ago. The game totally shits out whenever you get close to terrain. Mario Kart can handle bonking into terrain gracefully but CrossWorlds just restitutes your collider. Complete engineslop.
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can't let them catch up.
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>>537284240
Skill issue, why would you jump into a plane
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sonic has been, surpassed.
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>engineslop
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>>537284212
too slow.
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Congratulations Mario Kart World for winning the "can bonk into terrain" cup after losing the "getting into a full match without Discord" cup
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>>537283401
He's your dad Cream.
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alright fastbros, gotta wrap it up.
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>>537284959
ooc. CHADow beats SLOWnic and DESTROYS metal jobber and everyone else
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shadow = based
sonic = cringe
any questions?
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>>537284862
>losing the "getting into a full match without Discord" cup
go back to /v/ if you believe this
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>>537283529
You really gonna tell me this isn't hot? Her desperate attempt to stay strong when she's clearly shitting bricks before Shadow arrives?
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>>537285271
What about Rankles the Otter
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>>537285461
>>537285461
>>537285461
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>>537285451
your OC, Rankles the Odour
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>>537283401
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>>537284240
>open network test
what did you expect from an unfinished game
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>>537284924
Well yes, that's how she knows.
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>>537262484
Has anyone here even seen Cowboy Bebop in its entirety?

I feel like you guys don't watch anything without cartoon animals.
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>>537288887
>Has anyone here even seen Cowboy Bebop in its entirety?
Yes. Both in English and Japanese. One of the first times I felt an English dub was superior.
>I feel like you guys don't watch anything without cartoon animals.
lol
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>>537264134
He's a nobody nowadays. He might as well quit and give the reigns to Evan Stanley
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>>537274687
Cope and Seethe



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