Hot editionPreviously on /coopg/ : >>536878112>Latest News/Updates:Vermintide 2:Feast of Grimnir and patch 6.7.0 patch notes https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/feast-of-grimnir-double-xp-limited-time-event-out-now/111969Darktide:Hotfix #74 (1.8.7 thanks Fatshark)steampowered.com/news/app/1361210/view/520849092932272631Light the fuse eventsteampowered.com/news/app/1361210/view/668340807104725674Killing Floor 3:Hotfix 3 Changeloghttps://store.steampowered.com/news/app/1430190/view/517471393211744412Abyssus:Is out now - launch trailerhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_YeAjcv3GOgroadmapsteampowered.com/news/app/1721110/view/523100258247377082>Acknowledged but not really discussedReady Or NotStarship Troopers ExterminationAliens: Fireteam EliteKilling Floor 2BarotraumaLeft4Dead 2SCP: 5KGTFONo More Room in Hell 2Helldivers 2Space Marine 2Remnant 2Payday 3Back4BloodDeep Rock GalacticEarth Defense Force 6WWZThe Outlast TrialsThe Forever WinterFBC: Firebreakand others>Future gamesDen Of Wolves - TBADarkSwarm - TBABlight: Survival - TBAJump Space (formerly Jump Ship) - TBADeep Dish Dungeon - TBADAIMON BLADES - Early Access shit, Sep 3rd 2025Build planners:Vermintide 2: http://ranaldsgift.com/Deep Rock Galactic: http://karl.gg/Darktide: https://darktide.gameslantern.com/build-editor
>>537253297Sinenna is an old ahh bihh
>sinennayep it's esl hours
Saltzpyre is a virgin.
If only Sienna looked good and not like an old hag.I miss when media companies had the balls to add sex appeal to characters.
>Advertise game as 4 guardsmen going through dark and foreboding environments with barely functional gear before being ripped to shreds by a chaos spawn>Nevermind you're actually playing as a prisoner being sent on a suicide mission>Oh you survived your suicide mission into a pox infested shithole getting exposed to daemons and cultists and breathed in a bunch of spores and got green goo all over your weapons and clothes?>Let's invite you back onto our ship and keep sending you on suicide missions>Oh you didn't die on your suicide missions? Well we still think you're a traitor and don't trust you so we're going to send you on more suicide missions but every time you get exposed to the corrupting forces of chaos we're just going to invite you back into our ship and give you more weapons and armor to use on your suicide missions>Oh you survived all your suicide missions and you weren't actually a traitor? Now you work for the inquisition here's your badge we're going to keep sending you on suicide missions but it's different now>Oh yeah and now the paramilitary branch of the IRS is here because our prisoner suicide missions weren't getting results so we're going to send federal agents on suicide missions with our prisoners and agents>And also we have fully functional military units like the 53rd still but our suicide squads of prisoners do all the important stuff, you can help out the 53rd by going on extra suicidal suicide missions where you kill 16 daemons by yourselvesWho the fuck at Games Workshop actually signed off on this retarded excuse for a narrative
>>537254214>retarded tourist doesn't understand dan abnetts narrativego back to twg
>>537254101*sinenna
>>537254214>Now you work for the inquisition here's your badge we're going to keep sending you on suicide missions but it's different nowGetting mad about this just proves you don't really understand 40k to begin with.Just because you work for the Inquisition doesn't really mean you're important or that you matter at all.You're an expandable, useful idiot who's job is to catch bullets and buy some precious minutes for Atoma Prime in the hopes that the Imperium can turn the conflict around. In the end you will die a horrific death, most likely at the hands of the enemy, or if you somehow survive yo are summarly executed for some bullshit that only some retard bureocrat cares about, who will then sanction your body to be ground up to make corpse starch to feed the starving populace.You're forgotten forever, your sacrifice unknown, your life ultimately meaningless.That is the grim dark future of the 41st millenium.
>>537255654It looks like you missed the point completely and singled out one line to accuse me of "getting mad" over something you misinterpreted
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eC8iZSVuiN8How are we feeling brouzoufclick bros
>>537259162my legs are broken
>>537259162Why is this looking even worse than deathwing and necromunda?
>>537259162so shield enemies can only become vulnerable via heavy attack and just about anything has ranged attackkind of gay
>>537255654so trueto be fair, you need to have a very high iq to understand 40k>>537256661ah don't mind him, i've seen that cope a couple times alreadyyou're worthless expendable prisoners who don't matter but at the same time you're sent on a high priority time critical mission like the train one or given a special assignment to go find info about the special moebian steel with that mysterious guy in the snowy area missionthis would make some sense if the game had some kind of story progression where you do the missions in a certain order or these more important missions unlock only after you level up and earn higher rank, but that's not how the game is set up and you can do any mission in any order at any trust levela couple months ago there was a discussion about the exploding train and schrodinger's jobbers, but i'm not sure if this is the same guythought judging by>You're forgotten forever, your sacrifice unknown, your life ultimately meaningless.>That is the grim dark future of the 41st millenium.and the other gay rp about how grimdark and awful the imperium is, i think it might be him
meanwhile aboard the Mourningstar star>Tranick: Morrow I need more recruits, we keep sending cannon fodder but they keep dying???>(To)morrow: yeah sure we keep training people, so we can't just send everyone straight up, but they are coming>Tranick: Training?>SEFONI: EXIST TOO YOU KNOW?
Is there a mod to mute mazosi yet
(A big, belly laugh)
Strike team...VIOLENCE please
>>537260270The characters are nobodies and that is their purpose.
>>537262358Kind gentlesir...UPVOTE please
I have isolated the post-match crashing to only occuring after havocs and not after snailstroms or snorics. This is probably why nobody else here is experiencing this issue.
>>537259162>clunky animations>they still haven't hired animators that know what they're doing>if there's motion capture, whomever was in charge of it is completely retarded>not even a dozen enemies on screen, but most of them are one-shot fodder>half the video is navigating menusI'm not even going to put that much more thought into my reply. I saw it, had a chuckle over how much it sucked, and then remembered that StreumOn is older than some posters here and they STILL produce such unskilled slop.Grim.
>>537261220no i still haven't made it
>>537261220There was at one point a mod that could mute certain dialogue tags or something. It just broke at one point (consistently causing infinite load screens) and was never updated again. I forget what it's called but it did let you mute a lot of Masozi's dialogue.
still mad nobody plays his deprecated game mode
>>537263286I noticed this too but I thought it was my mods causing it. I tried disabling WhoAreYou because I thought the multiple resource pull mightve been caching multiple instances of the same thing, tried disabling scoreboard to no avail. Tried posting here and got called a cheater.I haven't even played in like a week because of it. Even when I win, it's fucking annoying getting booted out and having to make a new team.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vzl2ljQ8OaQFriendslop is taking over the co-op genre, it's over
>>537201036>>537205452Now that's lame.I still chose that negroid voice for my blue-eyed white psyker though.
>>537254214They seek money off the Warhammer franchise anon. Why do you think the story moves at a snails pace. Oh look new content so they can sell new toy figures. Bruh that dude is never getting off the throne if they want to keep making money. He either stays on there indefinitely and time is at a standstill while shoving different stories and new content to get money. And they certainly won't have him die off either despite all signs saying he's barely holding because that ends the entire Warhammer franchise. They're more likely to keep him in that comatose state or somehow bring him back and then suddenly some big threat appears to keep the story juicy. If he does die, then they'll probably come up with some excuse to keep the thing going for more money eg he gets reincarnated or something. At least Harry Potter had a conclusion.
>>537255654And these people worship some dude made up off several dudes in a comatose state on an alien throne....why? Though iirc they retconned that. Just like get on a spaceship and fuck off to some uninhabited planet outside the Milky Way. And just like that no more problems from Chaos or all these species fighting each other or some shitty life for that matter.m where they just toss you onto some alien planet to die.
>>537275427Having a nice Saturday Anon? How many drinks in are we?
TURN ON THE IMPERIAL VOXCASTJOHN DARKTIDE JUST FLEW OVER MY HOUSE
>>53727585820 Glyphid Slammer's and Oily Oafs! Thank you for asking!
>>537268939>10s of thousands of years pass>Humanity is basically borderless and has become a melting pot where the strongest traits prevail>Somehow they've retained being unique they still have the bix nood speakers and the man over there is screaming at you to not redeem saar!Kek. Dont they realize it becomes a homogeneous society the moment they all start mingling for millenias? Does the voice ruin the game btw? Like does it fit at all on the character?
Probably not gonna happen, but I don't suppose anyone on here would be up for L4D2 survival escape such as Tanks Playground or the Helms Deep map?
>>537275427>Though iirc they retconned that.They didn't.
what other weapons could Ogryns receive?reading wiki their arsenal is a bit limitedtheir 30K counterparts had drill gauntlets and various fist attachments, traitor Ogryns either were surgically enhanced or used whatever improvised stuff they can findmore importantly, what ranged weapon could they receive fill the niche similar to bolt pistol (quick to equip without setup, powerful enough to kill special unit but clip/magazine size is limited)?
>>537282065circular sawlarge spear type thing, make it a piece of rebar if gw is autistic, give it the dark souls lance chargefist weapons a literal brickdrills >what ranged weapon could they receive fill the niche similar to bolt pistol (quick to equip without setup, powerful enough to kill special unit but clip/magazine size is limited)?They already have this functionally, ripperguns
>>537282065Dunno, what other random yardwork tools do they regularly use? I think their next weapon will be a hedgetrimmer, or maybe that's too complex, they'll get an industrial lawnmower that they swing around and it sweeps the heads off of heretics. Sounds kino.
>>537282065The rejects don't really follow any military equipment pattern or limitations, so realistically anything they can pick up and use is free game as far as melee weapons go, as we already see most of his weapons are just improvised bullshit as it's difficult to find stuff that won't break on them.Some anons here thought we were getting an autocannon at one point for ranged with unused models but that just turned out to be the single stubber. Not sure what else he could get other than heavy lasguns, and maybe an LMG that doesn't fucking blow donkey dick even on the class it's supposed to be good on.
EYETIDE GAMEPLAYhttps://youtu.be/eC8iZSVuiN8THIS GAME IS ABOUT TO RAPE FATSHART SO BADLY
>>537282065Some of the GSC converted mining equipment comes to mind. The servitor ogryn stuff could be neat. I think long reaching melee weapons might be too hard for Fatshark to balance. Same goes for a heavy flamer. There are also these Horus Heresy guys, https://www.warhammer.com/en-US/shop/Solar-Auxilia-Ogryn-Charonite-Squad?queryID=35f546ce4f5d3a66e9cc3b58dccddfcf but I don't really see anything from HH getting ported over.
>>537254214>Advertise game as 4 guardsmen going through dark and foreboding environments with barely functional gear before being ripped to shreds by a chaos spawnAre you… talking about the opening intro? I don’t think that counts as advertising when the first actual look at gameplay is what we have now
>>537245791Most 40k games suck and are RTSlop, just like all WHfantasy games that aren’t TW or VT. Of course people want something more immersive
>>537285659>I don’t think that counts as advertisinghere's the first bit of advertising the game ever gothttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zp44GNRzvCc
>>537283605Damn this looks bad
>>537268939That's pretty gay of you to do
>>537259162Looks like ass. Another one bites the dust already it seems. Sad.
>>537275002>At least Harry Potter had a conclusion.well yeah they’re books first and foremost not a tabletop game that has to keep the gravy coming>>537275427Decent shitpost
>>537282065Knucledusters are the obvious one. There was also a giant saw used for breaching ships that they've used before but i don't remember the name>>537283591Realistically yes but iirc gw wants everyone using weapons that they have on their table top models so we're still limited to that regardless
>>537286093your mom looks bad
>>537285902Yeah I know but he mentioned “being ripped to shreds by a chaos spawn” and that doesn’t happen there so I thought he meant the intro. Like I said that’s the initial concept video, the next trailer that actually shows us gameplay and everything shows us what we have now, so it’s not like it was a complete rug pull
>>537275427>Just like get on a spaceship and fuck off to some uninhabited planet outside the Milky Way. And just like that no more problems from Chaos or all these species fighting each other or some shitty life for that matter.The rogue traders and imperial expeditions who moved too far away can do it and become "free", but go beyond the know space have a risk, like the Ghoul Stars.
>>537282065>what other weapons could Ogryns receive?Pretty much all of the heavy weapons, heavy bolters, heavy flamer, plasma cannon, lascannon, missile launcher even, but there's no guarantees of them.It's very likely that the next major update coming somewhere in september-october, will include weapons for all classes and we'll probably get the following:>heavy stubber for veteran, maybe for zealot too>the leaked power axe for veteran and zealot>the leaked 2 handed sledge hammers for ogryn will probably the only thing ogryn gets because fatshark up till has given ogryn only 1 type of weapon per updateI have no idea what psyker or arbites might get, if they get anything all.There are also few weapons that got datamined during the beta, like the 2 handed chainaxe, meltagun and that 3rd kickback variant.But I have no idea if Fatshark is gonna add them.
>>537285902This was just a cinematic reveal trailer showing that Fatshark is gonna release a game called Darktide.
>>537283605pure soul
>>537283605This looks like fucking dogshit.
>reinstalled SM2 because big patch next week>havent played in months>reminder why I dropped it, gameplay isnt that great>but the bosses fucking slapngl the boss fights are dope as fuck in space marine, trygon fight is kino
>>537283605Kino is coming
>>537290517I cum again
Feast of Grimnir is such a pain. Pretty sure I got kicked in one of the matches.>repeatable missionSo I can just keep playing on Champion for easy Shillings from the 3 difficiulties at once?
>>537293986sure?I did 5 of them on cata for the hidden trolls, no full wipejust bring boss killer character
>>537293986>Pretty sure I got kicked in one of the matches.take the host pill
>>537294318Can't you just do that on the champion if you're just farming shillings?
>>537293986>Feast of Grimnir is such a painI like this nonlinearity of it. But those barrels are honestly the most stressful shit out of all 3 Tide games so far. One mistake by anyone and it's fucking over.
>>537289226He wasn’t being serious dude anyone with even a passing familiarity with the setting knows it’s not as simple as ‘just fuck off to bumfuck planet in the middle of nowhere’
>>537299912>He wasn't being seriousI am
So playing Slayer is basically easy mode, correct? I don't even have to pay attention, just spam left click and f.
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>>537301197>femgrynThe rarest Pepe.
veteran talent tree rework can't come soon enough
>>537303609>an old ranger trick
>>537301197I like women with big boobies but shes fat, I'll take the cute petite one>>537303609Kek at the green outline. They really ruined Bardins leap. It was sooooo good but then here came the anti fun police. Every time, always "fixing" the fun stuff but taking forever if ever at all to fix actual issues.
>>537253297EYEGawds, can you smell the stench of fear? These fatsharters are spooked, our time is near...
Grenade vet seems like it would be some ridiculous meme build that would barely function yet it's the metaInteresting
>>537315671The only thing I fear will be your head falling into a vat of acid with me wearing your fucking moron face as a party mask.
>>537316784This new game looks like it will have extreme soul like that too
>>537316747turns out nothing beats a shitload of on-demand crowd control that scales well with difficulty
>Remnant 2Why are the weapon drops so fucking arcane, it shouldn't take me doing a fucking wiki dive to get more weapons than the rusty pieces of shit you get at home base>Pulse Rifle: unobtainable on my current run>Plasma Cutter: unobtainable on my current runLike I just started playing the game a short while ago, why the fuck do I have to read a wiki to find out that a) there's two cool guns I could get in the starter world and b) I can't get either of them because both depend on random chance based on how the game procedurally generates the overworldWhat were they thinking?
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>>537317056And unfortunately will suck as a game like all Streum On games
>>537316747It's even funnier when there are a bunch of specialists and elites so your grenades make more grenades as they kill. Plus you can take shout and ammo regen so you can do everything else that is wanted from vet
>>537320832wait till you find out about the gun that requires you to first find a secret back area, then solve a puzzle in that area, and then wait actual an actual real life hour and thirty minutes before returning and claiming the gun
>>537320832thats just terrible design, sounds like slop made for youtubers to latch onto and make a 300k view video that covers their own headcanon lore on why the weapon is set up to be found that way. easy marketing though, just very anti fun
>join havoc>someone rushes ahead, goes down, and leavesdo we like this? I like this
>>537311872rework vet skilltreerework vigilant autoguns and infantry lasguns into powerful DMRs (drop the 3 round burst, maybe keep the 2 round burst)rework braced autoguns into the bullet hoses seen in the left skilltree artbuff helbore uncharged shot and give one a guard for the special
Why is /copeg/ so dead nowadays? I remember when it was thriving with chatter. I remember the times of DRG. The game still has a lot of people playing yet rarely talked about anymore. This seems to be happening sitewide too.>TFW you will never experience DRG for the first time ever again.
>>537327780Everyone is playing the same handful of games
>>537327780>incompetent studio gets lucky and releases a good game>incompetence leads to such violent mismanagement that the people in charge of making the game good aren't allowed to continue making it more good, meaning an absolutely glacial pace of contentA lot of people lost interest in DRG because the gameplay loop, while fun, doesn't really have much incentive to come back to it. They also took too long between major updates, and when those did release, they were disappointingly small or not even particularly exciting. Disproportionate to the game's success.>copegActually good/fun coop games that aren't just friendslop, are extremely few and far between. L4D is by far the best one, and so old that everyone including every thirdie out there, has played it to death. It also doesn't have too much replay value unless you like playing versus with Russian cheaters.Fatshark games are the incompetence example up above, but turned up not to 11, but to 12. Those retarded Sw*des are better at repelling money than the average 40k enjoyer is at repelling women. Don't expect anyone to get hyped when these fuckers release their latest, biggest, most successful patch, do so in a broken state, break it further with every haphazard attempt at hotfixing, then LEAVE IT BROKEN AND UNFINISHED as they go on a month long vacation.I like good coop games, but I've either played them too much and burnt out, or lost interest. Darktide is the only one that still captures my interest, but by Sweden is cursed to make the most retarded decisions imaginable.Shit, the most relevant upcoming titles are fucking Zoomerlands 4 and EYEtide. One isn't actually a proper coop game, the other is going to be abandoned within months because the only country dumber than Sw*den when it comes to making video games, is Fr*nce.
>>537329341I never played L4D but I'm told its kindof like Darktide.
I am never going to get ASS>4/5>walk up to hold the choke point>teammate double taps a behind me barrel sending me off a ledge
>>537324231That's dumb as all hell.>>537324923I don't get why they do it. It's a souls inspired game but from my recollection you just get weapons in souls games by killing an enemy until they drop it, or a fixed spawn.
>>537329965They really like puzzles and hidden secrets. Play the game long enough and it becomes obvious. I think there's at least 2-4 treasure rooms in that game where the initial treasure is a distraction to stop you noticing the second, actual treasure room.
Think about how bad the average ASS player is>>537329905This guy is even worseLet that sink in
>>537329826It's... not really like Darktide. Tide games were heavily inspired by L4D, but they objectively improved upon the formula. L4D is extremely simple to the point of seeming quite casual next to the 'tides. Only the basic building blocks remain, of wanting to progress quickly through a level, cutting and shooting through melee chaff along the way, with dangerous special enemies serving as the real killers and hurdles when trying to do objectives, but L4D doesn't have much mechanical depth or mechanical skill involved (besides aiming good). It's very casual and simple, in a good and approachable way. Yes, this is an oversimplification, there is obviously some sick tech you can do, ESPECIALLY in versus, but you don't get crack ninjas sliding and perfectly weaving around entire hordes, because such mechanics just don't even exist.Also the overall aesthetic and atmosphere are obviously extremely different, fitting a more cliche "zombie movie" vibe but captured as a video game.
>>537330152It's going to drive me nuts. As someone who likes to comb thoroughly but had to look up a guide and then replay one of the first dungeons because there's a sidearm at the end of the dungeon you can't access unless you do something very specific it really fucking sucks because it'll lead to me obsessively crawling over everything.I hate it. I think I'm going to have to stop playing this.
>>537330431I thought daemonhosts were identical to some monster in L4D and also had some kind of OP solution similar to thunder hammers that you're supposed to trivialize them with?
>>537330785>and then replay one of the first dungeonsdid you just start playing? that's like 99% of the gamethe worlds are generated and dungeons are rolled for and placed, so it's not guaranteed you'll get the exact same ones, but you definitely will revisit them if you keep playingonce you get to the end you just reroll the world gen over and over to get every last item out of all of the worlds
>>537330908Daemonhosts are knockoffs of the Witch, who would instadown/instakill you on hardest difficulty. If you have a shotgun, you could instakill her yourself if you headshot her with all pellets hitting; there's even a cheevo for that.
>>537327780DRG wasn’t anything special relax lol>>537330257I will not let sinks into my home fuck off
>>537330908Daemonhosts are almost entirely lifted from L4D, and the solution is shooting them in the brain stem with a shotgun. They're kind of deadlier but more easily taken care of in L4D. Also tbf you don't even need a cheese weapon in Darktide, you can just dump a lasgun or bolter in a daemonhost's skull and rip away half its healthbar before it even finishes standing up, then stunlock it immediately after.Mutants are chargers, bombers are spitters, hounds are hunters, trappers are smokers. Yeah, there are a lot of similarities, but again, the mechanical depth is so vastly different that very little 'tide specific skill actually translates to L4D. You need to WASD your way out of a charger, you can't just dodge it. Think of it as more of a generic shooter.
>DRG wasn’t anything special relax lol
>>537327780It’s only been like this for a few weeks just a little less than a month ago we were fine but Arbites wasn’t all that extensive so we’re back to a slower time
>>537327780you bit the hand that fed
>>537327780You know how the internet is consolidating into just like 5 websites that everyone uses and keeps using? Same thing devs are trying to achieve with games
>>537254214>Who the fuck at Games Workshop actually signed off on this retarded excuse for a narrativelol get fucked spess muhreen faggot we're the protagonists now
>>537327780There aren't many new games>but what about (insert thing some posters were hyping for here)You know its always going to be a flash in the pan if its not a -tide game and if it has a higher playerbase than a -tide game it gets its own general.
>>537331321He's right and I owned the game ever since the lobby was just rough untextured gray blocks.
Rock and stone!
>>537332627Yeah I've noticed that as well. I see so many gamer's also slopping that stuff right up and getting angry when a game doesn't do the "live service" type of behavior, for a game that isn't even live service to begin with. Literal complaints that the game has been "abandoned." Lol. Look at Terraria, content update after content update. Game was done year's ago but by continuing this constant update cycle, the autistic founder achieves this consolidation effect. And he seems to be creeping certain idealogies into the game. Bruh I just want to have fun. Anyone else making something like Terraria literally can't compete just on the sheer content the game has by being in development for over a decade. Though for coop game's like the one's here it seems the consolidation effect is going towards friendslop tier coop game's with short thrills before they get dropped and the crowd waits for the next one. Not a fan of this effect but I have seen it.
Why are all of my bots ... following a very peculiar pattern?
>>537331204>>537333935you triggered a seething trooner with facts well done
>>537327780I'm playing WoW private servers 'cause nothing's come out for a while
>>537340730Are they any good? How are player populations?
>>537338941Kek quick dig into the files and see if there is a certain percentage of them using this pattern rather than true random.>>537340730How do private server's work? Like with your character, do levels even carry and just how small is a playerbase on a private server?
>>537338941you're a convict dude "why are all my cellmates black" lmao cmon
>>537341252>quick dig into the filesI just did. I couldn't find any specific behavior that calls ingame_bot_profiles so I don't suspect there is such a function. Interestingly, CTRL+F for "african" has 20 hits, and "caucasian" has 25.Even more interestingly, since we know that bots can only be veterans, you would expect only veterans to be in here, but such is not the case. There's only veterans AND arbitrators, which hints at arbitrators having been intended to ship as proper bots, and fagshart just leaving it unfinished or scrapping the idea.Imagine arbitrator or ogryn bots, not only with actual skill trees, but with customized builds to best support their retarded AI. The dog alone is already more useful than some teammates.
please come back to killing floor 3
>>537345201only when you detach classes from characters and then add cute girlsand probably not even then
>teammates did in 3 different corners episode >first one has about 8 crushers forming a line to rape him one room ahead>second guy got webbed two rooms over>third keeled over from 2 poxwalkers tickling his prostate too roughly
>>537340593Gross do better its not 2005
this motherfucker took way too long to get
>>537353194I hate using stimms, they take way too long to use>see bunch of elites>oh boy time to do my penance>whip out stimm and juice up>allies clear out the elites in the meantime
>>537353652exactly what happened to me last mission, i see 50 mobs in front and by the time i use it they're all already dispersed or gone
>>537353652This might be one of the rare cases of fatshark intentionally designing something to be clunky in a good way, to promote team play. Using a stimm on your teammate takes a fraction of the time and gets you right back into the action, while your buddy immediately enjoys the effects. It's why I make an effort to use stimms on the teammate that's actually worth a damn whenever the opportunity presents itself. If in doubt, just jam a red or blue into your psyker, they benefit from those the most.
this talent saves so much headache>see flaming homo behind crushers, side step and plink him in the head>dog skulks inside the horde *BLAM*>map has gay fog/dark effects? no problem>trapper trying to do her little shitty corner web shot? no way fag
copeg so dead bra
>>537283605I was harsh in my earlier assessment, I was very drunk at the time. This doesn't look too bad and I would probably play it if it is reasonably priced. I ain't paying more than $25 for it though.
There are people using aimbot in darktide?
>>537357249Unironically yes. I remember a game from a while ago where I was suspicious a guy was using an aimbot, he was killing specials the instant they appeared on a Lights Out mission, sometimes through walls (he was a plasma vet.) Chink name of course.
>>537357249Yeah, people do cheat in Tide games. Years ago it was a real problem in Vermintide 2, there were plenty of times I'd queue into a random lobby and get some retarded chink with 1000 ping who would be moving at lightspeed while spamming Trueflight Volley every second on Kerillian. They're subhuman so they think it's fun.
>>537340862Depends on the server you play on. I've been playing on Turtle lately for Vanilla+ stuff, and I really enjoy it. They've added some really cool stuff to vanilla, including a huge, spooky castle dungeon that's made it into my top 5. Ascension is another good server option if you want something more off the rails. I've played a lot on there too. Both have good pops (although Tel'Abim on Turtle is pretty small despite being the only PVP server at around 1-3k players depending on time of day), and the newest Turtle realm has always had 7-10k people on when I played on it. There's also Warmane which I haven't played on. I hear lots about paid gear, and I don't care that much for any of the expacs, so I've never tried it, but it is one of the other largest servers and does TBC/WOTLK. Ascension, Turtle, and Warmane are the 3 biggest I know of. There's also Project Epoch which also does vanilla+ stuff, but it's newer and has less than Turtle, I think. It's also downloaded through Ascension's launcher after Epoch devs bungled their own server stuff.>>537341252>How do private server's work? You just go to the server's website (can find private servers through reddit or the wow private server general), make an account, download the client/launcher, and play. There might be another step or two depending on the server, but it's never been complicated in my experience. Each server functions differently in terms of expac/XP rate/gameplay/custom content (if any).>Like with your character, do levels even carryI'm not sure what you mean. You start a new character when you start on a private server and level like you normally would.>just how small is a playerbase on a private server?Like I was telling the other anon, it depends entirely on the server/realm you play on. Some are actually quite large. Others are teeny. Just do your research before hand so you don't end up on a dead server, and you'll be fine.
>>537283605>difficulty was tuned downi hate journos
>>537353958If it’s not a healing stimm I always give it to my team, mostly because the visual effect is annoying as shit and doesn’t feel worth it
>>537351830Lel meant for >>537340730
>>537363910they have 30 minutes, you do realize that the mode tells you the estimated times is 30min to an hour, you cant be showing off the same footage for 30 minutes before you get to a boss and then end the presentation, thats boring as sin and is detrimental to your marketing
>>537364307And MMOs have gotten worse than they were in 2005. Something being older or newer doesn't automatically make it better or worse. Sure, some stuff in retail is good, but overall it's a worse MMO. The overall experience is shit in retail even if some gameplay elements are good. I don't want to play Marvel: WoW edition with a bunch of normalfags and anti-socials in a game centered around Mythic+ and run by neon-haired retards that make shit like this or turn Lady Liadrin into a manwith a simp army.
>>537316747Who is the strange man in this gif
>>537364706>And MMOs have gotten worse than they were in 2005. Yes that adds to my point
>>537364870You didn't have a point, faggot
>>537364387so true, so trueinstead of making the demo shorter and keeping the difficulty intact, they gave enemies 1hp so it's short AND completable by journos
>>537365090its better to upsell your game than to undersell
>>537364912The point is it it’s time for you to move on and stop living in the past retard now fuck off
>>537364912its pretty obvious what he's trying to say dude
>>537366451>living in the pastYes, that's why I'm playing on a server that is adding new things to the game, because I'm living in the past. It couldn't possibly be that the game is still fun for me. You're wasting time being a cunt on here just like I'm wasting time playing a video game I enjoy and responding to you. It's all the same shit. You're acting like the kind of woman who bitches about men who play vidya while she watches reality TV. Go be a smug faggot elsewhere. >>537366487Don't care. Judgemental nonsense based on assumption isn't a point, and I'm not gonna fill in the lines for him. It also doesn't make him any less retarded.
>>537367091NTA, I love the idea of a "Classic" WoW that has new content in the spirit of the old game. It isn't about living in the past, its that modern game dev is clotted with bureaucracy and twitter-nourished hairdye cultists. I would love to play in Turtle WoW or that other one you mentioned except I know that a lot of these private servers are themselves often run by narcissists and the maladjusted. Maybe that's not the case for Turtle though.There really aren't any good alternative modern MMOs.
time for some lazy snunday snorevocs...
>>537367628It's been a good time so far. Shenna's the owner of Turtle and is definitely one of the more notorious characters in WoW private servers, so you're not wrong there. I haven't noticed it being an issue but who knows.I think the main problem with modern MMOs is that the people with the capital to make them are all big companies directed by visionless, soulless suits and developed by an army of tumblrites. I assume they're expensive games to make and operate, so despite there seeming to be a market for a new one that's more in line with older MMOs, the money just probably isn't there for any group that could actually make something great. But I obviously don't know dick about that and am making a lot of assumptions.
>>537367091>judgemental nonsenseget a load of this tard sorry he hurt feelings buddy welcome to 4chan
>>537367091You are gay for playing a game that was never much good to begin with and well past it’s prime at that. That’s a fact. Sorry the truth hurts I guess.
brother we are playing Darktide, standards might as well be on par with blizzard's shit
>>537283605THIS is what Darkchads were supposed to be worried about?
>>537369610That's what you were doing, retard. Sorry I didn't doublespeak the words around for you
>>537369621Sorry you're so offended by people liking what you don't like. Enjoy the cocks, anon.
>>537370010i didn't "do" anything you mong but your vagina might feel better at home on reddit if being "judged" anonymously has it bleeding this hard jesus have some shame
WoW is definitely bottom of the barrel garbage food at least as far as fantasy games/genre go, MMOs are pretty much dead so that doesn’t mean much. It’s Mcdonalds, so to speak. If you like it then sure good for you but let’s not play pretend or act like it’s anything but, recognizing something isn’t great doesn’t (or shouldn’t) really stop you from enjoying it. Not everything has to be a masterpiece.
>>537370418kekWhatever you say. Judgemental nonsense is judgemental nonsense, and I'm still gonna call it how it is. All you can do is make shit up to attack with when the fact remains him acting like a smug woman doesn't serve instead of an actual point. Enjoy being a dumb cumslurper and backing up your buttbuddy.
Please bwos...be hyped...for dai...mon...blades....
>>537368290All the companies that would normally make MMOs are now owned by Microsoft alone, as I understand it.Also "Live Service Game" is the current industry trend so every mid-sized studio ends up going after flashes in the pan with promises of seasonal content drops that rarely materialize.
>>537370713sorry for your illiteracy you can make your way back now >>>/r/eddit
>>537370908I didn't realize that M$oft acquisition had spread that far. Fucking grim.>Also "Live Service Game" is the current industry trend Sure, but it still tends to be the bigger, corporate-backed studios that trend chase anyway, and they're the ones who'll produce terrible shit, even if they swap off of live service.
>>537357186Glad you're mature enough to admit it
>>537371007>no argument yet again
>>537370446My sole experience with WoW was trying to read one of its books that my friend lent me in high school because I was kinda curious what it was about. It was so comically bad I have repressed memories about it to the point I can’t even remember its name.
I'm a WoWGod and a DarkTideChadBut never a retarded fucking private server andy lmaoooHoly shit, just play anything else, fucking 20 year old vanilla dogshit lmaooooo
>>537369869>darkchud coping alreadyDon't run when it comesKeep the same energy
>>537371054If its not Microsoft its Tencent, making it look kinda like Microsoft is the US version of Tencent.Not sure if EA was bought by anyone yet now that I think of it.
forever winter any good?
>acting proud of playing the pozzed, hospice patient that is modern WOW just to spite someone on a Nepalese carrom forum
>>537371294yeah that was probably the worst entry point you could have chosen. not that theres really any other ‘good’ one aside from like playing the game but wow’s writing even at some of its best makes some of the bl’s at its worst look like award winning literature
>>537371716Very true. Still very fucking grim. It is about time EA got the EA treatment though, even if it does only serve to worsen the already sad state of corporate competition among the various industries.
>>537371835Kill all classic n wordsIt's that shrimple
>>537371375>>537371835this like how low can you get kek goddamn man
classic jeets fear the Retail x Darktide gawds alliance
Why *are* we talking about WoW so much? Is copeg that bad lately?
>>537372765We are all waiting for this >>537283605Just nothing much to talk about...
>>537372765This. Let’s keep it on topic you faggots there’s already more than enough mediocre games in here.
So, heavy sword. Am I right?
>>537373096Gib better carapace damage
>>537373147It just really needs to be able to handle crusher packs
>>537373284Yeah, I'm not saying it needs to 3-shot Crushers, but it's fucking Abysmal at handling them. That's fine if you only ever see a couple on screen at once, but it's a problem in higher difficulties, and most weapons don't have such an egregious problem scenario.
Cadia?More like CACAdia!
>>537373147>>537373284>>537373390um just use your gun
>>537373636Waste of resources, your melee should be able to handle everything other than distant specials.
>>537373621What about Agripinaa? Why always Cadia?Agripinaa isn't a cluster of asteroids, it isn't on the edge of the Eye of Terror, and its a forgeworld.
>>537373636There are a handful of guns that handle carapace well making it an unnecessary build restriction when you could just up the weapons carapace DPS a reasonable amount. Of the guns that can handle carapace, the Bolter and revolver aren't terribly effective at it, and on Zealot, those are your only real options.>inb4 those are goodDepends on your class. Bolter shits on stuff on Vet with a proper build for it, and Vet gets more anti-carapace ranged options anyway so I'm just gonna talk about Zealot.The Bolter gets a couple before you're confronted with the reload times so long and with such poor mobility that you're generally gonna be better off putting it off for later and finding something to whack, and the revolver is a largely similar case. Not to mention the unnecessarily high ammo tax this imposes on you and how much more time you'll need to spend dicking around with a gun over the course of a match instead of fluidly moving about in melee. It's not a fun experience having to disrupt melee to play at being a Veteran whenever a Crusher shows up. Oh, and melee maelstroms further impose issue on the "just use your gun" argument.Buffing the Heavy Sword to not be complete and utter piss at killing that one enemy type wouldn't change its damage output significantly or make the weapon OP, so there's no reason not to do it.
>>537373851more like Agripenis!
>>537374307Heavy Sword should work similar to the axe where it should get a heavy-overhead animation variant that just does good carapace damage.
>>537253297Sienna gawdess
>>537373147I wish the heavy swords had better light attack damage, because they might as well be useless currently.
>>537374336
I wish drunkremembrancer would work on his anatomy, its been a few years now and his characters still look like strange hairy lumps.
mmmwhere is the soup?mmmwhere is the soup?
Hey guys I'm like totally new or something and definitely don't have thousands of hours played, wha buil fo me arbi?
what happened to bugclick?
WHY THE FUCK AM I STILL GETTING CUTSCENES??? Fucking Crhist, just stop.
>>537386484>no new content, last one was janny simulator>devs can't even be fucked to release their skin slop DLCs without issues>randomly issue DMCA to one of the save editors because lol>try to shill DRG board game>develop their isometric game Rogue Coreit is pretty obvious they didn't wanted to develop DRG any further but wish to keep the clout
>>537387197nvm, isometric crap was survivor not Rogue Core
Yo nerds, still grinding Darktide? That game’s more abandoned than the treadmill in your basement. Even Fatshark doesn’t touch it anymore, the devs dropped updates like you dropped social skills in middle school. You’re still out here praying for a patch like it’s Christmas morning, but Santa Fatshark clocked out years ago. Keep coping, space janitors, you’re basically paying rent in a ghost town nobody’s fixing.Give me your lunch money you fucking losers.
I found tranners identical asian twin, except he plays poe2.Same voice, same sperg energy. I think it's an archetype.
The fucking crash after every havoc mission is making me want to uninstall
>>537385552Run this build, it works pretty good.https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9fc42363-ba1c-4788-86b6-5322d2837f03/good-arbites-build
>>537386484They should have made elf sequelThis Rogue Core shit is such a random idea
>>537389195>racist elf simulatorThat would've been great.
>>537386484You mean Helldivers2? it's awesome.
>>537357249You obviously aren't familiar with the Darktide aim community if you think that's cheating
>>537389092>no escape AND hammer of judgement>man and cyber-mastiff over walk it off>mandibles but no canine morale>chastity stance>meme damage nodes but no target the weak>clip size instead of monstrosity hunter>>>>>>>>TERMINUS WARRANTOkay I was mad at first but it's actually pretty funny how convincing this bait is, because it's so common to see such completely retarded builds. Good job, anon.
>>537389686If they aren't cheaters then they are disabled. Must be if they need an AI to aim a gun for them.
i played vermintide 2 today and enjoyed myself
>>537392542Same
soon
>>537394843>excited for an UE5 game made by french devs who only released janky slop games so far.You retards deserve to be scammed over and over again lol
Darktide: the cope times
>>537394843I was really hoping they would learn their lesson about pacing and menu spam from their earlier games, but it looks like the doubled down on the former from the video they showed. It doesn't look too good so far.Looks like a 'wait three years for the game to be playable' situation just like deathwing was.
>>537394843>no rats
hellsissies??https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2gt_blVy-40
>playing SM2, Darktide and EnshroudedI am a coop enjoyer FeelsFunMan
>>536915894>beat campaign 17>story abruptly ends>every other mission was easy after the karnak twins spikeHow did Fatshark think this makes a satisfying narrative experience? Why even have a story if you're not going to have the campaign end on a high.
>>537404768This dude looks like a jew.
>>537404768Helldivers bad.
>>537394843>tide game>has actually varied environments instead of just being metal corridor slop or forest slopFatshark is gonna go out of business with this one.
>>537406903Very organic comment!
never played any of the 40k sloppa but EYE was goodif daimon blades is even just remotely as soulful it's gonna be great
>>537406415The campaign only exists because people have bitched that the story in darktide was hard to follow. (Don't ask me how, I never had issues following it)Also in general the whole mission terminal update was purely for show, the REAL major update was the arbites DLC which you had to pay 12$ for. Fatshark only change the mission terminal and act like they weren't ripping you off.Remember Darktide is only getting 4 major free updates this year.1st update being Fatshark adding in Mortis alongside unfucking ogryn as a class. (Note that if ogryn wasn't fucked as a class we would've only gotten Mortis as the update in March)2nd update was just Fatshark taking the mission terminal and genuinely making it worse and then making the level "progression" also worse. (With arbites being something you have to pay for if you wanted any new content in the game)We are 2 updates in, and it is genuinely looking fucking bleak.I wouldn't be surprised if the 3rd major update is also going to be effectively a nothingburger in the grand scheme of things.
>>537394843damn, I was hoping for an EYE sequel from that announcementor just any other game in that universe/time period
>>537376832Said no one ever>>537377717Sex with her>>537386484Who?>>537389987So true my smug anime posting cutie
new homo
>>537317056>>537323058I'm cautiously hopeful.
>>537394843Looks… whatever? Like what are you supposed to hype here lol>>537405242*kisses you*
>>537405242Based enjoyer.
>>537404768helltards are finished>>537395252>>537402576>>537406996facts
>>537323058Jank gameplay doesn't mean the game is bad if everything else is kino
>>537395252UE5 isn't some [current thing] I'll have to rail and impotently fight against whenever I get the chance: If games look ok and are fun enough with friends I will play them. If Presequel E.Y.E. will be that or not remains to be seen.
>>537410161Wrong tab, sensei
>>537410290FUCKso angry i can't even check the gen i'm in, i'm killing myself
>>537406996Autism.
>>537395252scamming implies people don't know exactly what they're getting intoif you think anyone expects polish out of a streumon game ur out of ur mind
>>537410323There's some gacha fuckass thread that has "coop" in the OP and I've hated it for months. You gotta specifically type "coopG" to find this shithole.
>>537404768the fact that /copeg/ doesn't play helldivers, but keeps well apprised of helldivers news so they can convince themselves>helldivers...is le heckin' finished!is incredibly sad
>>537413464>not one person who posts here plays hd2>you shouldn't post news about a coop game in cooperative games generalthe fact that you're an obsessed tranny is incredibly sad
>>537413464HD2 was the main game here for 3 or so months before one of the ratfags got mad and started forcing a general. They all decided they were better off without /copeg/.
>>537413464I'm pretty sure people just can't help but post without adding some weird inflammatory us vs them angle to it for engagementwhat's sad is that people like you actually fall for it and get tribalistic over it, it's why they do it
>noooo, it's a heckin' helldivers 2 player who was just kidding you butthead!no it wasn't, it was a darktide-only player who got it in his youtube recommended because he actively browses helldivers 2 content trying to convince himself he shouldn't buy it>y-you don't know thatyes, I do
>>537415685>it was a darktide-only player who got it in his youtube recommended because he actively browses helldivers 2 content trying to convince himself he shouldn't buy itwhat's there to think about, it's 40k in spirit without the sticker on it?
>>537415685>darktide-only playerthis kind of "person" also seethes about every other coop game, often unpromptedand most often the seething is directed at vermintidefor example >>537414909
>>537409698>>537410084>>537410290>>537414449>>537415484Hit the nail on the head. Good posts.
>>537413464nah I don't play helldivers because 100hours and the game got stale, no matter how many sidegrade/worse weapons you add, the actual game doesnt have enough staying power for me, the skill ceiling is very casual
>>537415685I didn't even read the post, it's just sad that you keep falling for engagement ragebaitzoomers are truly fucked in the head
I'm not invested in any of your faggots' autistic le x game is better than y game, I just think kerneldivers are retarded for installing CCP spyware that has been proven to brick hardware, and would never even consider installing it on a non-emulated operating system.And I sincerely doubt any of you are autistic enough to emulate windows on linux because even I'm not, and I'm autistic as fuck.
>>537416772>game goes a year and a half without issue>a windows security update starts causing issues for a very select number of people who are writing files at the same time as they play a videogame (tubers)>SEE, I TOLD YOU ALL ALONG, YOU'D REGRET IT ONE DAAAAAY!
>>537413464>They hated him because he told the hard truth
>>537417052>a very select number of people who are writing files at the same time as they play a videogame (tubers)Isn't this also the case for anyone who uses shadowplay or steam replay?
>>537416747actually its milennitroons that keep doing and saying this hope this helps
>>537417503has to be a large file to brick an ssd, your 5 minute replays aren't going to hit 50+ gb, and it's not just gameguard causing it, it's literally any large, continuous file after that windows update went live
>Helldivers 2 get content amd update>Risk of rain 2 gets content amd update>Space marine 2 gets content amd update>Vermintide 2 gets content and updateWhere's the content and update for Darktide?
>>537417980Hope this helps.We’ll see you on the Mourningstar. – The Darktide Team
AMDgods wonNvidiatroons are FINISHED
>>537417913>5 minute replaysI forgot about shadowplay but steam saves 2 hours
>>537404768>>537417052So this "HD2 destroys your computer" thing is only an issue for (((Youtubers)))?HD2 IS BASED ACTUALLY!
>forced to play heresy while leveling a new character>comms plex (hacking event in the big room for the elevator, radar dish finale)>plasma vet somehow takes enough damage to have to heal twice just during the hacking event>runs himself completely out of ammo during, ignoring all ammo pickups even when pinged>elevator arrives, everyone gets on, rides, gets out>continues to run around with his gun out, doesn't know what to do>no ammo pickups in immediate vicinity either>he just up and quits after a minute of thisReminder that this is the type of player to post negative reviews when fatshark suggests nerfing his favorite weapon.
>>537421864it's an issue for anyone who uses windows 11 and has any large file corrupt on an SSD, but yeah, sure
What is going on? Why does this general attract so many mentally ill shitposters?
>>537422889You are the only constant so the fault lies in you
>>537422889The past couple days are probably just the most recent wave of discord trooners that somehow have a vendetta against coopg for autistic reasons or whateverWe only have a handful of resident schizos, it's not usually this bad
>>537422370>(((win11)))I stand with and fight for DEMOCRACY!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S9STizATKjE
>2.0how is this game?
>>537422889You know how many times I've seen every single general on /vg/ say this at some point or another?
>>537424296>win 11 bad>but kernel level spyware good actuallySurely helldivers anon is trolling.
>>537417980At best we'll see new content at best around late september, early november.There was a guy who asked on the forums when the next major update would be and Kitefin said that there is gonna be news about it soon.But who really knows when that "soon" actually is. They said the same about veteran weapons and it's been 9 months with fuck all info on them.
>>537413464I don't play helldivers because I have no interest in installing an invasive kernel level anti-cheat just play a PvE game.
>>537424914Very Positive.
>>537424981he's done nothing but post coomer imageshe's not trolling, he just is that retarded
>>537427038>anticheat...for my PvE game?>yuck, no thanks!>giving my phone number, real ID, and kernel level access to activision?>YESSSSSIRRRRRRRRRRR let them COOK
>>537428664Why are you trying to imply that disliking slopdivers spyware somehow means gobbling up sloptivision spywareWhat kind of retarded tribalism are you on, obviously both are cancer
the crafting revamp in darktide is responsible for the decline in quality of these threads
Shopclick failed because it didnt have enough items to click on the shopArby's tried but it wasnt enoughMorbidlyobeseshark should take notes from Paradox when it comes to DLC
>>537430750go away casinotard
>>537430374It's an actual mexican ITT i've been noticing his presence >>536890263
>>537428664I don't play activision slop shit either.
>it's all one guy, I've been NOOOTICING him
>>537432029You're right it might be multiple mexicans and you might be one of them
>>537432029someone's feeling a little called out
>>537418252Said no one ever>>537417980In your tight sissy asshole
>>537431382Darktide failed because the game should've spent like 3 more years in the oven and only been released now in 2025. And it continues to fail harder because Fatshark is both incompetent and lazy.I wouldn't mind that we get only 4 big updates per year with Darktide, if it actually felt like that each update would be 3 months worth of new content.No, instead what we get is Fatshark only releasing 4 big updates per year which consist of shit like:>hey we reworked the mission terminal for no reason and made it worse>a new gamemode that is so easy you can finish it blind folded>here's 1 new weapon type that all human classes share and ogryn again gets a minecraft tool>oh woops we also broke like 4 things in this update, but don't worry we'll be right back to fixing them once we get back from our 2 month long vacationAnd then as a comparison you look at other co-op games like Helldivers or SM2 and both consistently get new content, get content more Frequently, get higher quantity of content at once and then get better quality of content as well when compared to Darktide.It's genuinely fucking depressing to look at as a DT fan.
>>537421864>abscringe and gay>>537424942it’s especially stupid to say here because the shitposting this place gets is just about the most tame on this board. >>537427921also believable
>>537432029Are you surprised of his level of butthurt?
Darkturd
>>537430374>>537431389>>537431408>>537432554>>537432781
>havoc 40 ascension riser>the twins and a boss spawn immediately after crossing the bridge to the hab block at the beginning of the map>team refuses to retreat to the landing area and wants to fight them at the hab block entrance
ILOSECONTROOOooooOOOOllLLLLLLLLWhen I get bored of Darkshite.
>>537433450>Darktide failed because the game should've spent like 3 more years in the ovenIf that includes fundamentally rethinking the game's overall aesthetic and story, sure. If you're just thinking it needed 3 more years of development, as in the ones it just had, then no.I have said it before, and I will keep saying it. Shit like "body type A/B" and ugly female faces and bodies fundamentally suggests compromised development teams. You're not getting a passion project out of people with "those" people also in the room. They'll suck all the joy out of it just as quick as they can.
>>537434246I agree with the sentiment, but getting hung up on body type A and B and ugly faces in a game where you don't even see your character is a little fucking autistic, when you should be focusing on Masozi and all the girlboss autism instead.
>>537434246Literally nobody gives a shit about ugly women and body types in a 40k game. Grow up.
>>537434993>Literally nobody gives a shit about ugly women and body types in 40kuhhhhhh >>537433983
>>537435397That is anon bitching about h40, not about women.
>>537435397The custodes controversy was about genderswapping and adhoc retconning an explicitly male-only military unit, not ugly women.
>he doesn't even know what the image istertiary-kun...
>>537436297I'm sure the fact that she had the face of a man and wore standard, full size male space marine armor had nothing to do with it.Yep, everyone would've had the same level of outrage if she was cute and had explicitly female armor. They definitely wouldn't have immediately made porn of it. Uh huh.
>>537434246>>537434704Both can be true. One informs and exists because of the other.
>>537434246Darktide's aesthetic and story are fine. The problem is Fatshark's developement time which is glacially slow.I'm fine with the art direction of the game, it looks exactly like a 40k game should.Main problem I have is biome variety, which again comes from Fatshark's laziness, since they just want to reuse all the same metal corridor slop since those are the assets they have at hand.
>>537436738Also to add to this I also now remembered the interview that Magnuson had, the head director for Darktide and its developement.During the interview he admitted that they have a meeting with GW and their representatives every week about the shit fatshark is making, which also explains the painfully slow updates.It's mixture of fatshark's own lazyness/slowness, but the mixed in with GW's control freak, "helicopter parent" style nature.God this game is fucking cursed.
how do you ever complete havoc missions without hosting them yourself
>>537434246>If you're just thinking it needed 3 more years of development, as in the ones it just had, then no.a full dev team developing a game isnt the same as the crew maintaining it and making minor updates afterEven just 1 more year before release would've done more good for the game than 5 after. The issue here is that a game doesnt sell before release and covid fucked the industry so they didnt want to take risks
>>537437859Playing a desirable class with a build that isn't retarded, would be a start.>[21-25]No idea what it looks like in the stuckie range. When havoc just came out, I just randomly applied to the highest games I could find, with a fancy border and title on. I've been 30-40 ever since, and leveling up your own assignment isn't a big deal anymore once it naturally climbs high enough from joining enough games. I think I hovered around 36-37 on my own assignment before I bothered to level it up to 40.Also>not hosting>in the stuckie rangeyou're inviting disaster because you can't trust the host to not be retarded
>>537438341This is also very true.Also it doesn't help that we know that when the old combat director left, he took bunch of devs with him as well and they started their own studio.Which also would cause lot of problems for the remaining DT dev team if they lost bunch of skilled members from it.
>>537437859But why wouldn't you host games?As for me, I never let the following people into my team:-Xbox and Playstation players-any player below level 180 except arbi, who needs at least level 130-vets (got powercrept by arbis)-psykers (don't give a shit about bubbles, 99,9% of you are fucking trash)
>>537439230>-vets (got powercrept by arbis)Embarrassing to admit so openly that you have no idea what the class' role is, and another point on the graph once again proving that copeg is hardstuckie central.
>>537434246Uhhh Vermintide sisters? Is this true? Is VT3 screwed?>>537434993>Grow up.>Says the troon.
does anyone else wanna be upset with me?
>>537439230>But why wouldn't you host games?I want the helmet
i did the dogshitsee you in 2 months
>>537436738I just wish we got to travel around to other planets but oh well. >>537437541Jesus. We pretty much always knew that but it’s nice to have some confirmation regardless. You really do need a massive triple A company to make a Warhammer game with any decent rate of content.
>>537439230>these are the people who are hosting Utterly embarrassing and clueless post. No wonder the game mode is dead.
>>537424914>a few months pre update, sub 1000 player averageidk and looking at the pic it suggests coop is a new addition. idk how well balanced it is and if it'll keep a healthy sized population. if it drops to <5000 than singleplayer better be good cause thats not enough people in my opinion
>>537394843KINO IS COMING
>>537410290I want them to rape me
>>537439658>>537444520What's embarrassing is mindlessly parroting what Reddit and Youtube says instead of actually playing the game and seeing what works.Nobody needs your shout when zealot book exists.Nobody needs your plasma gun when arbi shotgun exists.Nobody needs your kraks when so many weapons can deal with bosses and carapace, and your pitiful CC blitzes get outperformed by arbi minesNobody needs your ammo aura when you're the only class that can't perform well without ammoYou're a dead weight in every sense of that word. A braindead ogryn will contribute more to the team than you.Havoc died precisely because of hordes of vet and psyker shitters thinking they can get away with being bad at the game because MUH TEAM SUPPORT
Dude which fucking Sienna staff is the 'good' one? None of them make me think "Ahh, yes, I see. I need to use this staff."
>>537445621>parroting what Reddit and Youtube saysLike you're doing right now?I always bring a veteran into my havoc 40s and they always perform better than some random shitter chorus zealot who never learned how to play the game. I always appreciate the ammo aura. I always appreciate having shout on top of zealot. I rarely if ever find good ogryns. Krak grenades are fucking excellent and you are retarded.All in all your posts reeks of faggotry and you should kill yourself.
what is this forced nail memewhat did i miss
>>537445951the darktide one
>>537445621>Nobody needs your plasma gun when arbi shotgun exists.Oh also>plasmathat nobody uses in havoc 40 because bolter outperforms it, bolt pistol makes better grenade builds, and even helbore competes with despite all of its awkwardness just because it has fuckloads of ammo, which is a major reason you even bring a veteran in the first place.>arbi shotgunIn havoc what, fucking 20? That thing only functions if you spam the special rounds for additional ammo efficiency, while hoovering up every last small ammo pickup on the entire map. It's "better" at the cleave meme that hardstuckies love to stan the plasma gun for, but that's a useless niche when psyker, grenades and zealot do that better than plasma gun can ever hope to do, none of which are mutually exclusive with any of the guns listed above. Veteran's job in a party shouldn't be to remove hordes, it should be to pop heads, which plasma gun is explicitly inferior at compared to the other options, if for no other reasons than ammo pickup efficiency and the clunky heat mechanic. If you think that you need horde clear, uncanny frags do it better than you'll ever need, otherwise it's power sword if you're running kraks. Ammo aura is very useful. Shout is nice. But the thing I actually care about and want veterans for is popping heads and blowing up rainbow colored crushers/bulwarks with kraks. Piggers can't do those, and aren't mutually exclusive with vet either. Arbitrator is definitely my preferred 4th, but veteran is much more important to me.
Is Ready or Not worth it? Its on sale rn
>>537446968Why are you posting rat dick in the thread?
>>537447474dagoth was a pussy ass bitch faggot. would shove my grand and intoxicating cock up his sissy asshole.
>>537446968Someone post the rat torture webm
>>537446968>>537448989A cat is fine too
>>537447474It's a cool game, fairly challenging and has some neat worldbuilding if you scratch the surface a little, but don't put your expectations too high. There's still quite some jank.
I have been trying to play zealot in havoc recently and have had less success than when playing veteran. I find that just like in snorics and snailstroms my teams don't make good use of my chorus and don't shoot specials so veteran just does what needs to be done better.
>>537452273That just means you're either using chorus wrong, or are playing with hardstuckies where playing a force multiplier is useless because 0 x 1.5 is still 0
>>537447474if you played any of the previous swat games and want a real challenge, go for it, get the base game first, there's plenty of levels as is and if you want more then go for the dlcsthere's schizophrenic lore in the game as well as wendigosalso pretty sure some of the assets are AI generated but I'm not sure if they changed that nowthere's also a decent modding community
>>537452492I generally save it and only use it when a giant armor or rager blob is walking through me to rape the psyker, when we are getting fart gassed or firebombed and need to relocate, if pskyer's bubble goes down and there are shooters around, etc. I sometimes use it aggressively to push and stunlock groups of gunners or reapers while marking priority targets but I find that this doesn't result in the team capitalizing on the stunlocks unless we have a good veteran to shoot them or flame psyker to continue stunlocking them with his M1 after the chorus stagger wears off.
>>537453909Sounds about right, except for >I generally save itbecause I think you should ideally be spending as little time as possible with chorus ready to toss out. I'm itching to use it at the first excuse I get, whenever the team isn't currently gold. It does depend somewhat on how much cooldown reduction you have, but every good build runs two of the red nodes anyway so you shouldn't struggle to spam it. If yours doesn't, it's time to fix your build.>unless we have a good veteran to shoot them or flame psykerSounds like you're joining random-ass teams with random-ass nonsensical compositions, then. No, 2 arbitrators and an ogryn don't make a good team with rando retards who probably can't play either of those classes. Most arbitrators are too selfish, stancetards aren't even worth inviting, and ogryn barely has a place in such a lineup other than being the rumbler bitch because whom the fuck is he taunting for?Zealot + psyker + vet remains my default lineup for several reasons, including those that you described. Glass cannons love zealot, zealot loves glass cannons. 4th guy can be your dedicated frontline or dive while you focus on keeping the other two safe.
lol
>>537448989my eyes are up here
>still leveling new character>heresy this time>quickplay into event>veteran dies 4 times to bursters>not downs, dies>including ones that sneak up from behind him (how)average skilled darktide player moment>he was using plasma without ammo aura>just like the last retardI'm sensing a pattern
>>537454940I am afraid of using it at random downtimes simply because of the team not having gold when at any second a blob of 14 bulwarks and a chaos spawn could pop out of the floor behind the team and I might have 30 seconds or more of cooldown if the timing is bad.>Sounds like you're joining random-ass teams with random-ass nonsensical compositionsI mean I pretty much just request to join groups that don't already have a zealot. Due to the way it works out this almost always ends up with zealot, psyker, arbitrator, and usually a veteran since it seems like ogryns aren't popular despite being very strong. I'm new to the game so I am just now clearing 40s for the first time with every class and I have yet to attempt a 40 with psyker because I don't play him that much and have only successfully cleared a 40 once each with both zealot and ogryn despite doing it several times with arbitrator and veteran. I have probably failed 10 or more 40s in a row now on my zealot and I'm not sure how I can have such a big loss streak on what is supposedly the easiest class to play.
No matter how much I try I'm usually lowest DPS in VT2. WHYYYYY!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>537457731>I'm not sure how I can have such a big loss streak on what is supposedly the easiest class to play.I don't think generic chorus zealot is the easiest. Health build probably is, because it has so many crutches and rebound mechanics through martyr's purpose, but that's more a case of requiring very little mechanical or positioning skill since it just bails you out of most fuck-ups. It just plays pretty differently and is very counter-intuitive to how zealot normally plays in aurics so much so that hardstuckies eternally tard rage whenever it's brought up, it's comical, or most other classes for that matter.>loss streakCould be any combination of bad build, bad luck, bad teammates, being bad at zealot, or zealot just not being the right class for you. If you don't enjoy zealot, or the support playstyle it's actually invited into groups for, you'll probably get impatient and play worse, and that's normal. In which case, just play a different class if you don't enjoy it, or switch to a gigachad stealth build if you're confident enough in your abilities (though expect to get rejected from most groups, only havoc 40 regulars know to appreciate stealth).If you want to stick with it, I'd recommend hosting lobbies yourself, and getting the inspect from party finder mod. Having experience on other classes should inform you on what's a good or a bad build. If you still eat shit with what you presume to be good players, chances are you're the problem and have some improving to do, but you seem to at least understand what you're supposed to be doing, so I can't automatically assume that.
>>537458442how do you measure dps in vermintide 2 ?
>>537459112*beats rat to death with cane*
>>537459475I do this
>>537458442The only dps that matters is in the breakpoints. If you do x much damage more to something than someone else doesn't really matter as long as things go down fast.If you mean damage against bosses though, I have no idea. Every class has some secret gear set up that instantly deletes bosses and I have yet to figure out what they are.
>>537418248its kind of funny at this point
>>537459112that's a damn rat ogre
I will never forgive fatshark for killing darktide
>>537372765Yes: >>537418248
>>537445164Yeah this but completely unironically (and for real)
>>537459475my dad beat a rat to death with a 2x4 beforegoddamn thing must have been a foot long
>>537470976That's a short 2x4
>>537471040you're a big rat
>>537471567But for who?
>>537472949for me to whomp with a 2x4
>>537459475>>537466409pls answmer the question
>>537475989you take the number of damage you do and you divide it by the number of time you did it into get dps you set your denominator to 1 second
>>537475989Hmmm what kind of fr*nch "person" is awake at such a time?
I can't bros...Vet is just so ass when you don't metaslaveI'm so tired of spamming FI'm tired of spamming light attacksTired of spamming plasma gunBeing a walking aura...
>>537480864N-new weapon... s-soon......... believe.............
>>537480864I almost believed you until you mentioned plasma gun, which just revealed that you're either baiting or too retarded to use a bolter.
>>537481115what are you talking about? they just reworked your class and gave you a dog...meanwhile helldivers 2 has added full weapon customization, acquired new licensing agreements, added an entire new enemy faction, as well as cars, mechs, new enemy types, new enemy classes, new weapons, melee weapons, new mission types, new biomes, new abilities, new passivesonly one of these is made by an actual indie studio without a major license or tencent money
>>537481142Boltgun is even more clunky than the plasma gunThe bolt pistol is fun, but used to buff grenade build, which is the essence of metaslaveIs it so wrong to wish to have a bullet hose or even a hard punching rifle with halfway decent handling?
>>537481954>Boltgun is even more clunky than the plasma gunThere's two nodes in the top right that almost fix that, and if you can find another 2 points for the top left, pretty much entirely fix that. Either way, you're a ranged build now, and your gun rapes so fucking hard that you won't really feel the need to melee anywhere near as much as you think you might need to. As long as you can aim for heads. And for the love of god, don't magdump.>thing is good therefore metaslaveThat way of thinking is insanely retarded, especially since you just shat on bolter, which is the best veteran weapon across the board in every difficulty except maybe babby mode where the autopistol is legit better for its ability to shoot while sprinting.>Is it so wrong to wish to have a bullet hoseIf you're okay with red bullets made of [insert lorefag bait about what lasguns shoot], recon las does that up to maelstrom. Arguably viable in havoc too, but you can do better.If you genuinely believe veteran to be bad, that's a skill issue. Yes, this extends to havoc 40. Cry about it. Le plasma meta is perpetuated by hardstuck redditors who can't beat fading light 2.If you can't function without shout in aurics, I'm lmaoing at your life.
>>537481795but only one of these is held by the nuts by games worskhop.god i pray for new gear soonor new pennance rewards. hell, anything at this point!
>>537478268The brown kind
>>537459112I meant damage dealt lol
>>537445621>Havoc died precisely because of hordes of vet and psyker shittersHavoc died because it's a crappy gamemode.
>>537448989Ratfags are weirdo furries and sexpests.
>I don't play or enjoy havoc therefore it's dead and I must spread schizo misinformation
>>537482329>One motionIt's STILL clunky with 25%>>thing is good therefore metaslavePoorly worded on my part, it just isn't what I want for a vet weapon>recon lasBuilding that to function against carapace is fucked because of how shit onslaught's placement is on top of reaching storm trooper on the opposite side of the tree>If you genuinely believe veteran to be bad, that's a skill issue.Strawman argument
>>537484226>>recon las>Building that to function against carapaceWhy the fuck would you even attempt to do this? That is so fucking retarded I don't even have words for it. Use your goddamn melee for carapace instead of embarrassing yourself like this. Brittleness and rending are a meme, don't fucking bother, just shoot soft targets in the head, armored targets in the body, and switch to your melee or kraks for crushers.>Strawman argumentIf you're retarded enough to fire your recon las into crushers, it MOST DEFINITIVELY isn't.
>>537484441My last experience with the recon las was trying to use it during the moebian 21st event and getting my ass reamed by mostly armored enemies>KraksNothing could ever convince me they are good>Ad hominem
>>537485238>>Ad hominemAnon, if you're struggling to use one of the most powerful guns in aurics, that is indeed a skill isssue, and no amount of coping or deflection is going to save you from the fact that pointing it at crushers is fucking retarded.>moebian 21stWhat the fuck were you doing, hosing hordes of trash into center mass or something? I can understand feeling like some flak elites are a little tankier than you'd like, but you can always just put 25% flak on your gun and path down the center for piss tag. There's even a 10% rending node on the way down there, which I still don't think is amazing, but it would solve that specific problem quite handily without needing the bottom right side, which I think is grossly overrated anyway. All you want for recon las is the crit, and even that isn't strictly needed when you want to be going deadshot with the brown one anyway (but I understand preferring the blue, which is unusable with deadshot).>inb4 muh melee vet meme>after already implying that you were fucking shooting chaff instead of meleeing it
to be honest brittleness node is in retarded spot for veteran if you go for recon las
>>537486404Brown recon las is the best one, deadshot synergizes extremely well with it, deadshot wants some way of generating stamina, and piss tag generates heaps of it. It's in the perfect spot if you build it correctly.It only doesn't make sense if you use the blue one, but that one is strictly worse on veteran specifically.
>>537486021As for spraying hordes center mass, I may have been a retard a year ago, but I wasn't THAT retardedI was building brittleness because a consequence of the modifiers was that dregs were non existent so crushers, maulers, and scab ragers were the only elites spawningThough a ranged weapon/set of perks designed specifically to mow down chaff would be awesomeBrown lasgun may be the move, I've only ever used the blue so maybe that will feel better
>>537487024>a ranged weapon/set of perks designed specifically to mow down chaffBraced autogun does that, built into any two of unarmored, flak, infested. Better on arbitrator with stance, so you can have a maximally pants on head retarded build that chews through 30% ammo just to kill a single wave of chaff on what is the strongest melee class in the game. But at least you have an excuse to not bring an anti-sniper weapon even into tardo pubs because the dog actually handles them pretty reliably.>I've only ever used the blue so maybe that will feel betterBlue feels a lot better in general, but you just can't beat the damage output of deadshot on the brown. That's mostly for single target exploding heads, but brown does cleave as well as blue, so you CAN use it for hordes, and arguably should just cleave through them to headshot shotgunners etc. behind. That's part of why I avoid the green one. It has incredible ammo efficiency but can't cleave for shit, meaning you'll end up missing easy kills just because there's a moderately dense horde in your face.
>>537481795>meanwhile helldivers 2 has added full weapon customization, acquired new licensing agreements, added an entire new enemy faction, as well as cars, mechs, new enemy types, new enemy classes, new weapons, melee weapons, new mission types, new biomes, new abilities, new passivesyeah and they've also had the difficulty utterly trivialized for over a year now, so even if you try and cripple yourself with total meme loadouts Super Helldive is still a snorefestthe game's flashy but the actual gameplay nowadays is like... how to put it?You know how the game's trailer is like a recruitment video/propaganda reel that shows Helldivers effortlessly blowing through monsters? And you get the idea that it's supposed to be like Starship Troopers where it juxtaposes the actual fighting where the troops are suffering massive casualties in horrific conditions. But instead the propaganda reel is just what the game's like. It's boring.
>>537487841Arguably that' what darktide is like now too. But we have none of the the things anon listed.Player power is so retardedly high that the AI director needs to spawn like 10 crushers at once to have any sort of challenge, and even then that isn't enough.
Kinda new to the game but don't really understand psyker's role. Most the time I'm torching guys that are already gonna get mowed down faster by any other means, even by my own melee weapon. Other times I'm brain bursting like 1-2 guys before my team just runs in another direction. Their damage is pretty fun but just feels like incredibly slow and short range. I use my peril and combat ability like all the time. It just doesn't feel or seem that impactful to just kill handfuls of infested horde guys. Is this just a lower difficulties problem? I only just now barely playing in damnation. More horde, more impact?On my zealot it was maybe more obvious when I was running around being a menace for the team or using book or tanking hits to get downed guys
>>537491731>clown car of elites shows up>sonichu medallion makes them all cringe>the mere mention of cadia is so fucking hammed up and overdone, even the enemies can't take it and just fucking fall over>token floor hugging retard still manages to magic everyone's cooldowns out of existence with every killed elite despite contributing literally nothing else, so more density actually means more efficient murderrapingAoe ults, cooldown reductions, and most infinite cleave mechanics are just retarded like that. Unfortunately, so is fagshart. We need enemy quality, not quantity, but this game is designed with malicelets in mind, and god damn have you played down there recently? Those players are some of the most retarded I've seen in a video game.
>>537492146insignia replacement when https://sketchfab.com/3d-models/sonichu-medallion-from-chrischan-ab6e49348ded48f4815047c100fed972
>>537492128>Is this just a lower difficulties problem?Yes, for the most part. Psyker is finicky like that, where what's actually good is heavily dependent on enemy density. Flame staff's secondary fire doesn't actually become all that useful until you reach high-intensity levels of enemy density, so aurics and beyond.Up to maelstroms, you can run a sort of hybrid build with the middle keystone and play it as a brain burst build, using your staff as a fallback for horde clear, and your melee as a stat stick (knife is great for mobility). Just hope the resident brain burst hating giga autist isn't around because it seems I have to explain every time how brain burst is actually good with EP, you fuckers just refuse to try or acknowledge itThe problem with flame staff is that it deals pitiful amounts of damage until burn actually ramps, and the only way to accelerate that is through crits (double burn stack application), talents to put a small number of stacks on everything, and shriek. The ramp-up is too slow for lower densities, because your retards would rather blow through 20% of their ammo "kill securing" than pulling out their melee, or letting the psyker do his job.>my team just runs in another direction.Tards are gonna tard, but also psyker is slow, learn to slide before/while you do anything. Also embrace the knife on every build that doesn't explicitly need horde clear from the greatsword.>psyker's rolePsykinetic aura, cooldown reduction bitch. Bubble cuck. Dedicated sniper killer with brain burst. Infinite gigacleave infinite DPS abomination in havoc.Also smite may be faggot shit, but if you're running a staff that can leftclick snipers, you don't need BB and can save smite for when a scary enough horde shows up that you KNOW will kill your retards, or help with revives, or objectives.
>>537483834>>537484064>>537487841Trvke. Accurate.>>537481795Not quite the same thing.
>>537492716Thanks. Yeah I have been using the knife to heavy attack down stairs and use the momentum to charge my staff. It's really fun, that part is the gameplay loop is pretty rewarding
Warhammer 4000: Cucktide
>>537495914Funniest shit i've ever seen.
>Get into cucktide>Praise fatshark by do nothing and leave for vacations often>Have to wait 2 or 3 years to get skins available again >Bug fixes are considered updates>Pay 900 aquilas to raise a visor
>>537497118Will be the first and last game I'll ever buy from fatshark.When VT3 comes out or whatever the fuck that secret unreal project is, that shit will only be playable and in a decent spot 4 years after release.
This new mission is one of the most soulful they ever madeIt's linearity actually works, instead of like in Bogenhaffen where people just optimized the most efficient path discarding others. Here you still need to beat all those paths, but in whatever order you want and so far my teams just go different ways every time. And each of the 3 paths changes others, unlocking and restricting areas in themEnabling waterflow will flood other 2 paths. Some places will become non-traversable then. In a path with that 2-part bridge you would be able to normally get to an infinite ammo box if you didn't flood the area. Alternatively you can go around if you got the keys.Path with a Cog enables elevators on other paths. You can find keys next to a dead dwarf there which will allow you to unlock doors on other 2 paths. Those doors contain resources and barrels. If area is flooded this dead dwarf alongside his keys will be washed ashore in a slightly different placeLast path destroys those wooden walls, unlocking new passages and gives access to resources as wellAdditional Troll fights are more rewarding in a fun way than collecting books as well. And also count for Chaos Wastes Menagerie of Slaughter achievement so you can farm those trolls on every class where you still need a grudgemarked troll.And final Boss is an unique Troll boss fight with new mechanics.If VT3 missions will be designed like this game will be fantastic.
new hotfix is up boiz
>>537501902*slurps*
>>537501827I still think they need to make paths a bit clearer there is no reason not place a few plaques in Khazalid or lamp posts with signs showing what's ahead with pictures
>>537501902why in the actual fuck would they not hold back from pushing that skill description change to coincide with the patch that actually changes the skill to match, the fuck sweden
>hotfix broke the mod that mutes the valkyrie dialogue
>>537492128>More horde, more impact?very much this.Brain burst is utility for taking out snipers and bombers and stuff. Your main source of damage should be staff and/or melee. By default psyker is very slow, but there are lots of talents on the right side of the tree that increase movement speed if you want to go fast.
>>537481954>Is it so wrong to wish to have a bullet hoseWhat's stopping you? Pick the Graia Braced Autogun, executioner stance, big ammo, and go to town. Or go recon storm trooper and bring laser disco to the enemies.
>>537436572obviously multiple things can be true at the same time
>>537495914>Brown “humor”
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>>537501902This is like the fourth time they 'fixed' itIs it finally fixed?If not I swear to fucking christ im going to uninstall, I haven't played all week because crashing and leaving the party maker is the most annoying experience possible
>>537511361
They nerf arby into the ground yet?
>>537506597>Nigger cope
>>537501902wow its nothingagain lol
>>537501902now post the same for vermintide
>>537517738>>537517860>>537506597
no wonder havoc game mode is dead if it crashes on party selection lmao
>>537521387>>537517738
>>537524346Uh darksissies??
>>537524627>>537506597
>>537517357>into the ground>implying they ever willFagshart are extremely, insanely retarded.Ogryn's rework/buff made the class pretty overpowered, and that must have been intentional since they care about havoc.Arbitrator was also clearly designed with havoc in mind, otherwise it wouldn't be a high performing class there either.The actual issue is performance in lower difficulties and allowing drooling retards to have enough fun in aurics to completely shit them up. That's also the average player, and their core audience. If they would just nerf all of the toughness regeneration and maybe rework tard stance, this would mostly be fixed.The ACTUAL PROBLEM with arbitrator is that you have everything between infinite toughness and all of the damage nodes, with excellent math attached to them. >every build should go into picrel because it's the most point efficient damage setup>(100% base + 15% Arbites Revelatum + 15% Justified Measures + 15% Hold the Line) * (1.15 Target the Weak applied via Concussive) * (1.16 Soulguilt Scan)>193.43% net damage>missing two additive damage nodes, intentionally not factoring in Lone Wolf or the 10% above blitzes>not factoring in Break the Line>not factoring in Arbites Vigilant>not factoring in crits>not factoring in blessings like Opportunist and High Voltage>most of this damage applies to ranged weapons as well>the shotgun shoots a horizontal spread of bolter roundsAll of these, on a class with infinite toughness, similar DR to an ogryn, and the fucking dog.The worst part? Most players are too fucking retarded to build or play the class correctly, so even if any nerfs do happen, they'll likely leave shit like Soulguilt completely untouched because they're retarded.And veteran still shoots better in havoc.
>>537525334>>537517738
Where's the new content of darktide?
Why can't I change my blitz without resetting the whole tree?
>>537527586Because the devs are retarded.Use https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/216 to fix this.
>>537528165Why did they ditch sanction mods from vermintide?
>>537528560jealousy
>>537448989>why do rat trannies post rat genitalsit’s a mystery
>>537530716are you an eastern hemisphere or a western hemisphere kind of brown?
>>537531570we’re not going to meet up ranjeet i live in a civilized country far away from you so stay where you are
canecuck...
>>537528560Probably because that would require work in the form of someone actually approving those.And we all know what fatshark is deathly allergic to doing.
It's your problem, not mine. Fatshark is great.
>>537538857Forgot your avatar bro
>The description of the “Superiority” Blaze Force Sword blessing was updated to also include Specialist enemies. This is a change that will be fully introduced in a future update, so for now there will not be any effect in active gameplay.Why?
Havoc isn't fun
>>537539072Game dev is immeasurably complex, you wouldn't get it.
>>537539072Playtesters again.
NEW MISSIONS FUCKING WHENJESUS CHRIST THE LAST ONE WAS THE CIRCUS
>>537539160Have you tried gitting gud
>>537540072I'm havoc 10, I have beaten the hardest content in this gameIt's just not fun
>>537540306>havoc 10>hardest contentkek
>>537539160Havoc is basically the only way I can even have fun with the game anymore since the difficulty keeps getting gutted at every turn
>>537501902Why update the text and not the blessing if you're already updating the blessing later on?
>>537539072So they can forget to add it at a later point. The game has to have a certain minimum number of tooltips that flat out lie, as per swedish governmental guidelines about avoiding the pursuit of perfection.
>>537539160Sky is blue. Riveting discussion.
>>537483248>>537487841>>537492982With so much cope in the C-O-O-P-G, it's kinda hard bein' a fan of HD
>>537483248you can't blame games workshop for fatshark being unable to even hotfix the game correctly over the course of weekshow about the cosmetics that print themselves in the form of pre-existing digital models that just require texture workor the plethora of armaments, equipment or enemies to choose from even if you're baking from scratchfact is that company is probably the most mismanaged developer with an income > 100k
should i play shopclick or rockclick
>>537542219It's both.It's both fatshark being genuinely incompetent and being horribly mismanaged, and then on top GW is known to be extremely controlling. Like Magnuson confirmed in an interview that they have a weekly meeting with GW where they show and talk about all the shit they are doing with Darktide.And this isn't anything new, VT2 was like this too as well with the Flail.
>>537544378wtf is rockclick
>copeg retards think vet was replaced by arbitrator>hardstuck plasma sissies think vet is somehow shit>forum retards think veteran is the weakest class>steamgroids will shit and piss themselves at the mere thought of nerfing vet weapons>once again, nobody realizes it's just a build/weapon diversity issue>nobody realizes they're performing like complete shit because they run retarded builds>class is actually quite good, even extremely strong in havoc with a decently healthy amount of viable weapon choices by darktide standards>only common thread is ammo aura, shout and grenade regen>yes, even marksman's focus is very strong, and yes, smoke grenades are useful, you just don't understand how they work because you never use themI'm not gonna deny that the skill tree is kinda awful, especially by more modern standards as seen in the ogryn rework and arbitrator, but I fear that with fatshark's retardation, they're going to gigabuff the class to absolutely absurd levels with how vocal all the low skill retards are about how supposedly weak it is.Imagine they buff veteran to be an absolute killing machine with a fucking braced autogun and chainsword. Now imagine such buffs with boltgun and power sword.
>>537547248>And this isn't anything new, VT2 was like this too as well with the Flail.This is funny, because in this one example GW autism forced Fatshark to do something. They simply wanted to give Warrior Priest a Flail other Saltz careers already had. GW forced them to make a new Flail and Shield weapon
>>537548329Probably Deep Rock Galactic
>>537548569thats bugclick
>>537548543>Veteran being strong would be a bad thingWhy exactly? Astra Militarum is the biggest fighting force of humanity after Adeptus Astartesi in Warhammer 40k universe
>>537549701Go play in malice if you don't want to be challenged. The game is easy enough as is, we don't need ogryn and arbitrator to dictate the pace of power creep without fagshart adding new, actually challenging content. If this keeps going, havoc 40 is going to feel like aurics in 1-2 major patches.
god forbid ranged focused class would excel with more than 3-4 weapons
>>537549848>bolt pistol>double barrel>laspistol>helbore>plasma>revolver>recon las>boltgun>3-4All of these are amazing in aurics, which is what people actually play. Most of them are also (at worst) usable in havoc, if clearly worse than the better options, like revolver vs bolt pistol.Just admit you don't know how to play or build vet.
>>537548543>veteran: sharpshooterone new classeveryquarter
>>537547248>>537548549It’s especially weird with VT though because the setting is more or less dead. You would think they would care practically not at all since they put all their stock into AoS now.
>>537549701I mean, going by that line of logic the vet should be the weakest to make up for the fact that they’re so numerous. I’m also pretty sure Astartes are some of the least common even if you take high end numbers from the lore.
>>537550978They still care since it is their IP after all.Also GW did relaunch WHF due to how popular it has been thanks to Total War games and also the WHF community, ie. people who play the wargame, does still exist.GW just named "The Old World", but it is just WHF and it is the same world and lore at the end of the day.
>>537551472>and it is the same world and lore at the end of the day.dunno about that one, people are still not on board with Cathay and Kislev being over the top parodiesbretonnia got fiddled as well with female flag carriers I am sure there are instances where high fantasy fags got their hooks in or changed something for no reason
>>537548543>smoke grenades are useful, you just don't understand how they work because you never use themThe big reason why smokes are seen as useless (they kind of are), is because they are a in a complete fucking no-man's-land when it comes to the skilltree.You want survivalist because it's the best god damn aura in the game, free bullets in a shooting game like this will always be too good to pass up.And then on top of this you have the frag grenades right on top of the survivalist aura as well. Giving vet amazing horde clear ability since the initial explosion + 6 stacks of bleed even without uncanny strike shennanigans practically kills everything besides crushers. And if they don't die instantly the grenade explosion sends everything on their ass making them a non-threat.Even if smokes function like they do, their position in the skilltree is fucking god awful, but also their opportunity cost in general is horrendeus.>"Hmmmmm, should I take forever regening grenades that makes ranged enemies slight bit less of a pain but also still block my team's line of sight?">"Or should I take take forever regening, massive AoE, unlimited cleave, bleed grenades that absolutely rapes all enemies?"Very tough decision to make.
>>537551991>but they changed itAnon, GW has been changing 40k's lore for fucking decades at this point. It's still 40k at the end of the day.99% of people either don't care or think about that GW put women into the Bretonnian knights. Even in the old WHF, there were some female Bretonnian knights being the whole Joan of Arc trope, just very rare.
going to take piss vision into Havoc 35 wml
>>537552631>The big reason why smokes are seen as uselessNo, you're approaching this with mechanical understanding and actual buildcrafting. All the retards that call them useless don't even know what they do. They couldn't explain why they're supposedly not good because they have no idea.You do raise a good point in frags being a major reason people won't even LOOK AT smokes, and part of that is frags being somewhat overrated compared to the woefully undervalued krak grenade. Which gets into havoc meta stuff, and how veteran shouldn't be designated horde clear in the first place when psyker and zealot exist, but that's already several orders of magnitude too complicated for the average copeger so I won't bother explaining.Frags are definitely fucking amazing and the best vet grenade in aurics for 95% of builds, and smokes are kinda bad a lot of the time, but whether auric or havoc, when I do have a good smoke veteran actually using them correctly, I do feel them being useful. It just requires not being a pussy and actually standing in them. Being near immune to ranged enemies is fucking nice.I do think smokes and frags should just be swapped in the skill tree. I think that would probably fix their balance problems.
>>537553390>going to take piss vision into HavocIt's surprisingly okay if built properly, with a team that has other sources of gold toughness (2 zealots, zealot + second vet)>Havoc 35NGMI, players can't function without piss crutches before 40, and you're basically griefing yourself into having no teammates by not keeping them safe. They definitely won't keep you safe either, which is a necessity when running piss vision.
>>537553412>veteran shouldn't be designated horde clear in the first place when psyker and zealot existWhen you get forever regening grenades that also then regen just by you or your team mate killing shit (demo team)They are still going to be 100% super valuable for the team. How havoc is set up as a gamemode it basically incentivizes spamming infinite cleave and AoE abilities, more you have it better it is and easier the game gets.Just because you can beat havoc with a rusty spoon doesn't mean it is the most efficient way of doing shit. That's one of the things lot of havoc players seem to forget.
>>537553390I got true survivor with a vet that had piss vision. A good vet with piss can delete gunners and elites before they become a threat
>>537553859>It's surprisingly okay if built properlyOther caveat here being that you need an actually competent team to make proper use of it.99% of people who play havoc even in H40 still just pub that shit and play with randoms without voice chat.Meaning if you play H40 with randoms you should also bring the meta slave build because you are playing a game mode with hundreds of enemies that you need to potentially deal with by yourself, while you also need to deal with 3 other enemies in your own team who might be competent but aren't the smartest.
>>537551472I’m aware of the Old World, but it receives such glacial rates of content and supplementary material that it might as well not exist compared 40k or AOS. It’s clearly something more there for fan appeal and on the back burner rather than a raw money maker so you’d expect them to not care as much about shit like flails, but then again, they also afforded FS some liberties with it too, like Kruber becoming a GK out of nowhere, so they’re pretty inconsistent when it comes to that.
>>537554523You just proved >but that's already several orders of magnitude too complicated for the average copeger so I won't bother explaining.with your drivel.Frags aren't bad, but kraks are generally more useful because you plain don't need more horde clear with the correct team composition, while having an instagib on rainbow colored crushers and bulwarks (or groups of them with good positioning and enough aoe) is something invaluable that no other class can do.It's not that you can't or shouldn't ever build veteran for horde clear, but the concept of opportunity cost means you're better off with a different class entirely if that's what you're looking for.
>>537554931I take executioner's stance on vet for Havoc whenever I have friends online, otherwise it's slaving away in the piss toughness mines carrying retards
Arbites DLC is ~2months old. Guess we can hope for Darktide to get something in the next month or so.
>>537552631>>537554523I don't think you understand how the smoke grenades work at all judging by your posts. They don't block anyone's line of sight while standing inside the smoke, and unlike a dome shield the smokescreen can't be destroyed by enemies. In Havoc even regular-ass shooters are powerful enough that a dome shield will usually last only a few seconds before being broken, while even a baseline smokescreen will last 15s no matter what. Nevermind if you actually take the buffs you'd take for frags(Grenade Tinkerer, Demo Stockpile, Demo Team) in which case you can realistically have a smokescreen up for almost the entire match(since you have 30s smoke duration, replenish 1 every 60 seconds + Demo Team grenade regen).In short, when properly utilized, smoke grenades can pretty much invalidate almost every type of ranged enemy in the game, including some of the scab captains. At that point you basically just need an ogryn to deal with melee enemies and you're golden. The smoke grenades are not a "rusty spoon" at all.
>>537555898If your argument for something is "as long as you have X" or "if X thing happens", it's not that good. Especially in havoc, especially if you play with randoms.
>>537556713>>537557282Yup, they don't make 'em like they used to.
>>537558246That's a cute strawman, but people still take psykers, which require bodyguarding.
sounds like a skill issue
>>537364780https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kWycb6MmSaE
buff when?
>>537547248makes me wish jobs in the industry were remotely approachable for a non-nepotism, non-wunderkindworking there must be like barely having a job. i mean seriously, i wonder if half of them even pretend to be working
>>537560326Why would it need a buff when it's really strong outside of havoc?Even rumbler is broken in havoc with it.
>change text>don't change actual gameplay to match>intentionallyare we deadass?
>>537560526I don't use roombler saah
>>537561004Not everything needs to be good in havoc 40, retard
>>537558505Kek
I get the feeling this guy will lash out at anything regardless what yous say, good talk
go play malice if the game isn't easy enough for you
>>537558652>That's a cute strawman>>537555898>but kraks are generally more useful because you plain don't need more horde clear with the correct team composition>with the correct team compositionIt's not a strawman.
Is there any reason to play the Mk XI maul and shield over the VI on arbites? The moveset just feels worse and the damage values are just better on the VI
>>537563427>being legitimately so absolutely, irredeemably retarded that you can't switch builds according to what your team composition isKraks are le bad because I said so ok??
im playing hewlldivers 2 its system is better than drktide
>>537561185You heard him, Fatshark. Roll back the ogryn rework.
>>537563589I don't even remember what the XI's moveset is, just that the VI's moveset is basically perfect, whether it's push light heavy light, light heavy, or just light spam. It'd be extremely difficult to compete with that.I don't remember any testing with the XI yielding better damage, but I haven't tested cleave and horde clear with it. I doubt it can compete with the VI's push light heavy light.
is there any way to crack the arbites dlc
>>537563626>bro you can change your buildDon't start shifting goalposts now.
>>537548543at the same time I've been enjoying plasma vet on h40 because it just never runs out of ammo, doesn't need to reload and shoots shooters thru wallslife is beautiful because of the breadth of experiences possible
>>537563816speak english
>havoc nigger griefing the mission after get down first for try to rush alone in auric why?
>>537568318holy fuck man learn english before you post
>>537564451The big difference, and the only two things that I feel like might be preference, is that the heavy light horde clear is all shock maul so maybe it more consistently head shots, and that it has a heavy1 heavy2 single target loop instead of light heavy light loop
>>537569369I just started it
thanks for trying anyway anon
>>537548549yeah i legitimately don't understand people who think GW is the one holding Fatshark back when they rubberstamp dogshit like Necromunda: Hive Wars or eurojank like Hired Gun
>>537574575GW rubber stamping shit like underhive wars and hired gun are probably few of the reasons why GW is more hands on now.
>>537574981How so? You mean because of the quality? Because I’m pretty sure there’s been a few games made since that are pretty much shovelware.
>>537574575There's nuance to this. GW distributes the license willy nilly shotgun approach to anyone who wants it. The moment one of the franchises is successful though they assign advisors to the studio who make sure they don't do shit they don't like. Sometimes these advisors make weird fucking calls like "no WP can't have flail he needs to have shield and flail and only WP can have that"
>>537575919>fire team
>>537575919well you see anonymous under right circumstances (my discord bunnies giving me a rimjob) this is viable, unfortunately all /coopg/ is nothing but hard stuckies snd shitters
Is forever winter good?
I hate the weird jiggle on the bolters when recoil resets
>>537580760remember when they said they wanted to fix that but they literally couldn't, and then they forgot they had ever said that and never did anything about it ever againhaha, I member