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>What is /feg/?
/feg/ is the general dedicated to the discussion of games from the Fire Emblem franchise.

TMSlop and Engayge are not Fire Emblem and are considered off topic.

>Fire Emblem Series Summary
https://rentry.org/y8rkm

>Fire Emblem Series Emulation Guide
https://rentry.org/7368i/

>Fire Emblem Heroes Event Calendars
https://x.com/FE_Heroes_EN/status/1961187959937585379
https://hinkeljo.github.io/feh-timeline/

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>Latest FEH Trailer
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Previous: >>537101250
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>when someone says "all Engage OCs released underpowered" when Marnie was a fucking freebie
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>Engage bad
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>Ivy threadpic
Sage.
>>537307851
If you struggle to beat Marnie you might be retarded.
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>Heh? People won't roll for Engage characters no matter how good they are, you say? Then how do you explain everybody using [meta unit that everybody got for free]!?

r/FireEmblemHeroes isn't sending their best
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>>537309121
If people hated Engage like you claim they do they wouldn't be using Marnie though
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>>537309121
>argue that "all Engage units are underpowered"
>still refuse to acknowledge Marni
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>>537309292
I don't understand your logic. People hate Engage so they won't roll for its characters but if they get given a meta-defining unit for free they're obviously going to use it even if they would never have rolled for the character if it wasn't free.
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>>537309304
Marni, who gets completely mogged by Nidhoggr who released in the same month?
>b-but one was free!
when has that ever mattered? If a unit is good people roll for them.
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>>537309519
>If a unit is good people roll for them.
Unless they're from Engage, in which case nobody will roll and they'll only see widespread usage if you literally give them out for free.
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>>537309467
>>537309650
>People hate Engage so they won't roll for its characters
is that why 4/5 of the Engage NH banners performed better than average?
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>>537309519
>Nidhoggr who released in the same month?
Okay, so I'm just talking to someone from an alternate reality now, right?
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>>537309705
No but its why every Engage OC from this book has performed lower than average.
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>>537309836
huh? But NH Yunaka ranked better than every NH banner besides Rune and Hector (who only did marginally better)
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>>537309941
>"the tenth-best banner is good, guys!"
Ignore how it fucking tanked Fallen, or how a SINGLE decent banner will knock Yunaka out of the Top 10.
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>>537309941
Can I get a list of games it was competing against?
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>>537310071
Uhh well there was Genealogy... and Thracia... and Valentia... and uh... UHHH... *sweating*
Oh and FE7! (which it lost to)
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>>537310070
Huh? Fallen wasn't an Engage banner. It was 2/4 Engage, 1/4 TH and 1/4 Mystery of the Emblem.
Putting the blame on one game is rather stupid.
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>>537310314
Half Engayge is more than one character enough to make a banner flop and fail.
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>>537310314
>50% of the Fallen banners for the last two years were Engage OCs
>Fallen is no longer a Top 5 banner
There is a connection here. Put your glasses on and you might see it.
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>>537310262
So basically Yunaka competted against banners with the following CYL winners on them
>Alm
>Tiki
>Female and male Robin
And still did better? Sounds pretty good to me.
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>>537310314
Well let's see, Fallen used to be a top 3 banner, until last year when it was half Engage and placed outside the top 15, and this year when it was half Engage and placed outside the top 15.

I wonder what caused it to start flopping and ranking amongst Engage banners?
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>>537310464
>>537310403
>>537310556
Yeah weird how 100% Engage banners do well while other banners that aren't 100% Engage don't do well...
It's almost like the other games are dragging it down.
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>>537310497
>Celica's purse
>the wrong Tiki
>literally not even Robin, they called it Grima
Bruh.
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>>537310497
Yeah it's a real achievement outperforming
>Alm
Valentia
>Tiki
the Tiki that did not in fact win cyl, that nobody ever rolls for
>Female and Male Robin
...and literally the factually worst performing banner ever.

Yeah Engage had serious competition from NH banners.
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>>537310664
>100% Engage banners do well
Nice bait, kek.
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>>537310740
>>537310719
>noooooooo cyl doesn't count in this case because I don't like those characters!!!
ok bro
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>>537310664
>Yeah weird how 100% Engage banners do well
Like what?
There are zero Engage OCs on the top 10 banners for Book 9.
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>>537310664
Yunaka lost to the fucking Elm banner, bro. Just hang it up.
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>>537310927
Well one of the characters you listed literally did not win CYL and one of the other banners you listed currently holds the record for worst performing banner ever. So yeah I'm a tiny bit sceptical about your constant lying.
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>>537310934
>Like what?
4/5 of the NH banners that did above average
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>>537310927
Grima and YTiki are still on the CYL ballot, because they never won.
Alm only won because of Celica, he always flopped. CYL3 was the worst-selling CYL for years because of reddit's Anti-Camilla bullshit that year.
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>>537310556
Summer also used to be a top 3 banner until this year when 3H summer completely tanked in the rankings. I guess 3H is a big flopperoo if the lords aren't on the banner!
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>>537310664
>Yeah weird how 100% Engage banners do well while other banners that aren't 100% Engage don't do well...
Literally what the fuck are you talking about there aren't any Engage characters on any of the top 10 banners for this Book. There certainly aren't any in the range of how Fallen used to perform before Engage took it over.
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>>537310956
>NH banner loses to double mythic/duo b& banner
woaw what a shocker. It's not like this happens often and is not worth pointing out.
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Where did the Reddit salesfag go. How did CYL rank this year?
>>537311297
Except it doesn't happen often kek.
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>>537311264
I agree, the Ashen Wolves are some of the least popular 3H characters so Summer underperformed.
And even then, they still outsold Yunaka.
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>>537311297
Again, you're bragging about how well it does, but it performs worse than usual. Especially when we factor in that, again, Fallen was usually Top 3 of a book but is now averaging around 20th.
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>>537311282
There weren't many Engage units added this year so of course it wouldn't make the cut. If we had a 100% Engage seasonal it would have been in the top 5 of the year.
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>>537311297
It actually doesn't. The two double LMs before Ayra/Athos did awfully for their books.
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>>537311264
>>537311473 This while Deerfag was dragging the banner down too.
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>>537311608
>There weren't many Engage units added this year
It's currently at like 18 units, despite none being CYL winners. It has the most units of any game this book.
>If we had a 100% Engage seasonal it would have been in the top 5 of the year.
Man, Summer Lapis did worse than the fucking Ashen Wolves. A cast that flopped back in book 5. She did worse than them WITH Celica!
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>>537311473
Oh you mean the banner that had popular CYL winner Eikthyrnir? Why is it a surprise that it did better than Yunaka? In fact it would have been embarrassing if it didn't.
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>>537311608
>There weren't many Engage units added this year so of course it wouldn't make the cut.
Nigga its had 17 units so far the most of any game
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>>537311804
Anon. We both know Eik was a grail in Winter and a demote in Summer because IS saw how badly he sold. It was Heidrun that "carried" their mythic banner, and it still flopped.
Yunaka lost to Hapi and Heidrun.
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>>537311129
Alm won because Reddit thought he was being "mistreated" by IS.
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>>537311834
>>537311774
They added a small number of units considering its the most recent game developed by Intelligent Systems.
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>If we had a 100% Engage seasonal it would have been in the top 5 of the year.

Three Houses Valentine's - No Engage
New Year's - No Engage
Desert - No Engage
Summer 2 - No Engage
Christmas - Engage (Alear and Hortensia)
Fates kids - No Engage
Easter - Engage (Veyle)
Summer 1 - Engage (Lapis)
Genealogy Brides - No Engage

Ladies and Gentlemen, the game that "uplifts seasonal banners"
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>>537312041
Yeah, that's what I said. He got a "deserves it" rally, despite nobody rolling for him or his Brave or his Legendary or his Valentines.

>>537312089
>They added a small number of units
We're halfway through the book and they're halfway through the number they got last year.
And we're about to get
>New Heroes (5 units)
>an Emblem in the same month
>probably two tribe units, two halloween units, and more ninja units
It genuinely might pass 30 for a second time. And if it does, it will be the ONLY game to EVER do that.
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>>537312030
Brave 2025 sold bigly and the main unit you see everyone using is Eikþyrnir, so it's safe to assume he carries banners.
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>>537312161
All those seasonals with Engage characters on them were dragged down by characters from other games.
A seasonal with 100% Engage units would sell bigly.
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>>537312089
>They added a small number of units considering its the most recent game developed by Intelligent Systems.
Engage has had more units than Three Houses had had at this point in its release. It's not true. Its had plenty of units, people just don't roll unless it's characters that aren't actually from Engage (ie the Emblems) because they don't like Engage OCs. The same reason why Engage is about to lose three CYLs in a row. The same reason Engage went out of print in a year and only sold 25k copies in 2024. People do not like it and do not like its characters.
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>>537312257
>and the main unit you see everyone using is Eikþyrnir
What? You mean Baldr or Sharena or Byleth, right?
>so it's safe to assume he carries banners.
Once again: if he sold well, he wouldn't have been free or a demote.
Remember that time they grailed Manleth? Nope, closest he ever got was his Desert demote. Baldr will never be a demote, by comparison.
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>>537312456
And Three Houses wasn't developed by IS. IS isn't going to make a lot of content for an outsourced game they don't care for.
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>>537312161
You're missing Teatime which placed below Brides.

Three Houses Valentine's - No Engage
New Year's - No Engage
Desert - No Engage
Summer 2 - No Engage
Christmas - Engage (Alear and Hortensia)
Fates kids - No Engage
Easter - Engage (Veyle)
Summer 1 - Engage (Lapis)
Genealogy Brides - No Engage
Teatime - Engage (Celine)

The four worst performing seasonals all had Engage. The four best performing had no Engage characters. Having an Engage character on a seasonal banner is a massive drawback because they're an instant dead slot and a void where a character people might actually have rolled for could have gone.
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>>537312620
>What? You mean Baldr or Sharena or Byleth, right?
wrong. Go to SD right now. 90% of teams use Eikþyrnir. Only like 50% of them use Baldr or Byleth, and nobody uses Sharena.
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>>537312257
>the main unit you see everyone using is Eikþyrnir
Kek I only see him in SD or AR from the same three redditors for one turn until he dies in one hit to my unmerged Lolimilla.
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>>537312797
>Go to SD
>>>>>>>>>>>SD
Your pool is a group of 40 deranged retards?
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>>537312792
>Easter - Engage (Veyle)
>Summer 1 - Engage (Lapis)
>Teatime - Engage (Celine)
The Floptastic Three
Three alts each for all three characters
Zero successful banners
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>>537312940
>everyone who still plays Heroes plays SD, dummy.
Go to your friends list and count the amount of people who haven't played in 4 weeks+
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>>537312797
>Go to SD right now.
Ah so they only exist in the Reddit mode. No thanks.
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>>537313127
reddit controls this game so your insult doesn't really make sense, bro.
The one non-reddit thing in this game is the Engage pandering, since reddit hates Engage.
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>>537313115
At this rate you would have to count how many people have logged in within 4 weeks
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>we're now at the point where the pro-engage guy is saying that Eikthyrnir carries banners because he saw one in the least-populated mode in FEH
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>>537313327
Engage is hated across the fanbase though, that's like trying to single Reddit out for breathing oxygen.
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What a great thread
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>>537313327
Reddit controls this general too, apparently.
>>537313418
Not necessarily pro-Engage, only pro-Deerfag.
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>>537313418
>I don't like the point anon is making so I'll make some childish excuse for why it doesn't count, while attaching le smug anime girl reaction image
yeah you really showed me, bro.
>>537313486
It is very popular on 4chan.
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>>537313712
>It is very popular on 4chan.
Never has been
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>>537313852
Always has been, even before release
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>>537313539
Thanks.
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>>537313852
To be fair, Ivy's tits won against a perfectly good kete thread.
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>>537311608
>If we had a 100% Engage seasonal it would have been in the top 5 of the year.
do you actually believe this?
who are you even picturing on it?
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Legendary Leo, Elise, Takumi
Legendary Alfred, Timerra, Ivy

who's likely to get Legendary status in the next four months of 2025?
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>>537314189
>who are you even picturing on it?
Emblem Sigurd, Emblem Lyn, Emblem Eirika, Emblem Ike
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>>537314189
>who are you even picturing on it?
He's probably imagining some dream combo of
>Ivy
>FAlear
>Yunaka
>Goldmary
rather than the actual roster we'd get like
>Chloe
>Timerra
>Bunet
>Louis
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>>537314323
Yeah I'd roll for Takumi
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>>537314407
FAlear and Yunaka both already had alts this book and neither were top 10. Goldmary ranks below Celine in CYL so there's zero chance anybody is rolling for her. Ivy could potentially do it single-handedly though if recency bias hasn't worn off too much.
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>>537311462
>Where did the Reddit salesfag go. How did CYL rank this year?
50/80 - really good for a Book 9 banner, but doesn't compete with previous CYLs.
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is there a way to check the twitter algorithm to pick up art i didn't check for the past week? I know there were probably new pictures I didn't bother downloading or favoriting, which I should stop.
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>>537314571
>FAlear and Yunaka both already had alts this book
Yeah, and MAlear already got two.
>and neither were top 10.
If you put them together as one banner, I think they'd do better.
>Goldmary ranks below Celine in CYL
Eikthyrnir proves that ranking =/= sales.
So I believe that all four of those women AT ONCE would be a well-selling banner. But Engage's issue is that they keep sliding someone like Goldmary or Yunaka off by themselves to carry a banner.
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>>537314676
Reminder that the only reason she won CYL is because she wasn't in Heroes yet.
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>>537314393
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>>537314780
Well we already know that's not true because all of the 3H characters ranked below her have also won.
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>>537312257
Anon, deerdude isn't even the most popular team on the current CYL gauntlet. His team wasn't the first or second biggest for the summer gauntlet. He sure as hell doesn't carry banners else his seasonals would have been 5* locked.
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>>537314780
She also had the "side character" nerf, so all in all it was an honest and deserved win
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>>537314978
she dropped massively in popularity after 2020 thoughbeit. Even Hilda would have won sooner if Lysithea released in 2019
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>>537314752
Eik getting Reddit rallied has no influence on the fact nobody cares about Goldmary
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>>537314000
Everyone in here is just arguing about the same thing that's been argued about a million times. This is a massive loss.
Still better than AI slop spam at least.
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>>537315049
>"side character" nerf
doesn't exist. A literal NPC won CYL
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>>537315143
Goldmary's banner did well and she was paired up with a character that's the polar opposite of her fanbase.
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hmm time to post the pic that sends 3HRTs into an incontrollable rage again
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>Emblem Leif, Emblem Roy, Emblem Lucina, Emblem Corrin, Emblem Byleth, Emblem Alear (confirmed due to Diamant's LV40 home passage) imagine had we not gotten remakes, we could have gotten more Emblem lords.

Bracelet Edelgard (with Dimitri and Claude), Bracelet Tiki, Bracelet Hector, Bracelet Soren, Bracelet Chrom (with Robin), Bracelet Camilla, and Bracelet Veronica!

i forgot why Bracelets were a thing in the fell paralogue instead of emblem rings?
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Imagine trying to "doesn't count" 3H CYL winners when Sylvain is going to win next year
If they ranked above him they would have won at some point by now
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>>537315273
he had the "meme vote" buff :)
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>>537315143
Based on how poorly FAlear has done, we can assume that Goldmary carried Summer 2 of last year.
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>>537315497
>Mauvier is popular yet has no alt.
>meanwhile Madeline and Gregory have yet to appear.
>sombron was booted out in favor of Fafnir.
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>Engage manga still ongoing
zamn...if TH was so popular why didn't it get a manga adaptation?
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>>537315832
Uh huh it'll be fun to see that narrative fall apart when her NH banner bombs.
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Damn he is really throwing a tantrum now, just throwing everything out there and seeing what sticks

Engage lost.
Again.
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>>537316028
>almost every single one is either Summer or Winter
You just proved that 3H is fucking quarantined. That's like the opposite of spammed.
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>that one retard that is convinced Goldmary sells
is he the most delusional faggot in the entirety of /feh/?
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>>537316028
>only game that gets guaranteed summer alts every year
>has by far the highest percentage of chars with summer alts of all games
>"IM BEING MISTREATED"
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>>537316275
>only game that gets only summer alts every year
ftfy
I fucking wish it got a bunch of Ninja or Bridal or Soiree units, man.
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>>537315998
it's ongoing and now they're going to divert from the plot I heard.
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>>537316525
>noooo we ONLY get the most valuable seasonal alt slot that everyone wants for their favs in additions to spring and Christmas and Valentines it's so unfair I wish I could dress up like fateslandia savages like everyone else ;_;
Who do you niggers think you're fooling? It's even funnier that you bring up a seasonal type that was literally invented to quarantine FE4 chars in since they're the game that ACTUALLY aren't allowed to have anything but a single seasonal type.
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>>537316275
>>has by far the highest percentage of chars with summer alts of all games
now what about the other 11 themes
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>>537317017
>noooo we need 50 alts in every seasonal theme!!!
patrickstarving.jpg
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>>537316994
Again, I'd rather have a Bridal Marianne than a Summer one. But IS gives her neither, and instead gave both to Lapis.
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>>537317383
How do you feel about multiple Engage randoms already beating most 3H CYL winners for alts? Do you think that's fair?
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what's a villain who deserves the next legendary alt. Tellius has a lot.
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>>537317424
>3H is mistreated because my specific heckin wooferino loserino wife doesn't have a bridal
Fuck off. The only games that are actually treated like shit in this game are 4 and Valentia.
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>>537317706
Arvis
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>>537317779
Yep, and that's Engage's fault for wasting 30+ slots a year on units people never roll for!
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>>537317779
Jugdral is tied with Fodlan for units this year, and only because of Manleth getting a Brave.
This year also had a plethora of Echoes content, despite ALL of it flopping.
Fodlan won yet another CYL, and all it got was its turn on the Valentines banner, two Tea units, and two Summer units.
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>>537317706
How about some actual justice this time?
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>Nemesis having fags I mean fans.
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>>537317980
>Jugdral is tied with Fodlan for units this year,
FE4 literally got a single character last year.
>This year also had a plethora of Echoes content, despite ALL of it flopping.
See above.
>Fodlan won yet another CYL, and all it got was its turn on the Valentines banner, two Tea units, and two Summer units.
Wow Fodlan won another CYL and all it got was more slots on the choicest seasonal banners, a guaranteed New Heroes banner later this year and probably another seasonal too. It's truly suffering
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>>537317706
Legendary only, or can it be a mythic?
So far we're missing
>Arvis
>Julius/Loptous
>Veld
>Zephiel
>Nergal
>Fire Dragon
>Lyon
>Ashnard
>Lehran
>Dheginsea
>Anankos
>Nemesis
>Sombron
>Nil/Rafal
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3H assblasted people so badly they will willingly blind themselves to a newer game getting spammed even harder
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>>537317779
>>537318561
Again, your anger should be directed at Engage, which broke the record for most units in one book, and currently has the most Book 9 units. Engage is the reason your favourite games don't get banner slots.
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>>537318561
>FE4 literally got a single character last year.
Okay, blame Engage for getting 35. Stop making Engage units, and it frees up banner slots for Teatime Ethlyn.
>See above.
Stop making so many Engage units, and it frees up space for Ninja Ayra.
>Wow Fodlan won another CYL
I know, right? And nowadays it only gets ~12 units per year. It deserves more than that.
Imagine a game winning almost every single CYL, and it gets less content than Fates or Awakening.
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>>537317823
How does Arvis still not have a rollable alt at all
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Gaylentia deserves to be treated like trash anyway
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>>537318762
Finn spent 8 years in the top 50 only to get a second grail unit lmao
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>>537318762
Because he is hated by nips, not like you know shit tertiary fag
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>>537318762
The only assumption I can make is that the remake is real, but delayed.
You know how Engage took 4 years to come out? It's that, but this time instead of having 3H as the most recent game to tide us over, we have fucking Engage as the most recent game.
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>>537318742
>BUT ENGAGE
Engage and 3H are the exact same as far as I'm concerned. 3HRTs aren't mad that Engage stole slots from the other FE games, they're mad that all of Engage's slots should have been Fodlan instead.
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Damn you Three Houses, stealing all of the banner slots!
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>>537319086
I like 3H but I also like Judgral. I was annoyed at Engage stealing all of Genealogy's slots last year. If any game had to get spammed, I would rather it be 3H, which I know people actually like, than Engage, which just fucking wastes every banner slot on shit nobody cares about like Seadall and Framme.
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>It's another VG battle where a random motherfucker has an LBK
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>>537318930
>hated by nips
>one of the most popular villains in CYL despite nips being the only ones who'd even vote for him
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>>537319104
The book that killed FEH
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>>537319362
>rank 85 on CYL
so popular lmfao you are retarded like loli Tiki fags
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>>537319086
>Engage and 3H are the exact same as far as I'm concerned.
Ok, well you're wrong.
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>>537319619
Yes, that is in fact pretty fucking good for a Japan only villain when people like Nergal and Anankos and even Nemesis aren't even in the top 200
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>>537319104
>Engage already at 17 already
>Heroes at 18 already
Somehow, this is Three Houses' fault!
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>>537319104
Reminder that it only hit 13 because of Brave Felix and Brave Bernie. Otherwise, they'd be at 11.
Also, is this chart counting Emblems as from their "original" games? Or is it counting them as both? Because I know Emblem Celica and Sigurd were the only Valentia and Genealogy units last year. But is it making sure to count them as Engage? Because if not, Engage got 37.
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>>537319086
>>537319747
Yeah there's a big difference, 3H content is actually for somebody.
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>>537320006
Never forget New Heroes September & October 2024.
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Reminder that CYL9 had less than 25% the total votes of CYL1. FEH is not indicative of the preferences of the FE fanbase at large because the vast majority of FE fans don't play that garbage.
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>>537320436
Yes yes I'm sure Engage is massively popular somewhere, let us know if you ever find that place.
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>>537320436
>FEH is not indicative of the preferences of the FE fanbase at large
Sure, but today we're talking about the preferences of people that play FEH.
FEH fans want to see more Fodlan banners, more Ayra, Ivy, Gullveig, etc. and less Engage.
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>>537320186
>never forget the day a CYL winner and two of the most popular 3H chars without base forms failed to beat either the Ivy or Yunaka NH banners
???
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>>537320436
Anon. Fire Emblem Heroes IS the FE fanbase at large these days. The mainline series is fucking dead, it's a ghost town post-Engage. Why do you think people were so desperate for an FE4 remake so fast? They will take literally anything if it can revive FE.
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>>537320716
>Ivy
That was 8 months and an EIke ago.
>Yunaka
Wait, are you saying that 53/84 is worse than 56/104 just three months later?
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>>537320716
Uh. Anon. Marianne DID beat the Yunaka NH banner. It beat the Engage banner that came out a month before it released and the Engage banner that came out four months after it released. It only lost to one that came out 8 months previous.
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I hope people don’t make over the fact that Fates, Tellius and Sacred Stones are all in line for new heroes before Three Houses, so the next 3 months are gonna be those three games and Three Houses won’t be until book 10 begins
But that works out since that means they can be shown in the book 10 FEH channel
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>>537321180
Engage is getting another NH before the end of the year
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>>537321180
>Fates, Tellius and Sacred Stones are all in line for new heroes before Three Houses
You forgot the Engage banner. Not just because it was before the last 3H banner, but because we always got one just before or after CYL.
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>xir thinks genealogy will revive shit
kekaronie
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>>537321230
>>537321271
Didn’t we already have Engage this year, Three Houses got 2 banners in both 2019 and 2020 before joining the “queue” like normal, so ditto for Engage getting 2 banners in both 2023 and 2024 and now being in the “queue”?
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>>537321623
We've had two Engage NH in Book 7 and Book 8. The first is always January/February, and the second was always July/September.
We're due for the September one.
>so ditto for Engage getting 2 banners in both 2023 and 2024 and now being in the “queue”?
It once again has the most units of any game this year. Do you think they're just going to STOP? They just gave both Celine and Diamant a second alt after only 8 months.
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>>537321623
Engage has been getting more content than 3H did when it came out despite being far, far less popular. It isn't following the same rules 3H had. There's no reason to believe they'll stop spamming it.
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>>537321753
It makes way more sense for it to follow the “pattern” like 3H did of getting 2 banners in the debut year and the next year
Also, I want Alfred to get an alt and Boucheron and Louis to be in the game but none of that has happened unless the next banner is Firene 2
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>>537322051
Engage already isn't following 3H's pattern.
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>both threads with fillerballz video in op
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>>537322051
>It makes way more sense for it to follow the “pattern” like 3H did of getting 2 banners in the debut year and the next year
Engage stopped following the "pattern" a year ago.
3H went Lords then Retainers, then Lysithea+Bernie half a year later, then Flayn half a year after that, then Marianne four months later.
Then it ceased getting half-yearly banners. So one and a half years.
Engage has done it for two years straight now, and is about to hit two and a half.
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>>537322520
And your point? I don’t want 3H or Engage to get another banner without Fates, Tellius and Sacred getting their turns first
…But that means having to put up with something incredibly dull like a Soleil/Mitama/Ignatius/Hisame lineup for Fates
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>>537322961
>And your point?
You claimed it's following a pattern, but it's proven to already ignore the pattern you made up.
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>>537323091
Yes, the pattern is 2 NH banners for a game in its release year, and the year after, which both 3H and Engage followed?
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>>537323243
>Yes, the pattern is 2 NH banners for a game in its release year, and the year after,
... and it's currently the year after that.
Engage was Alear & Diamant in the release year, then Ivy & Timerra in the year after, and is now currently on Yunaka & whatever the next banner is.
Do you get it now?
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>>537322961
>something incredibly dull like a Soleil/Mitama/Ignatius/Hisame lineup for Fates
I'd like to take the time to point out Soleil deserves it, she's one of the only non-royals Fates chars who consistently places in the top 100 and yet only just got a resplendent and that's all she's ever gotten.
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>>537323470
I don’t get what you’re trying to say, 3H was the lords and Petra/Hilda in 2019, then Lysithea/Bernadetta and Church in 2020; DLC in 2021
Engage was Firene and Brodia in 2023, Elusia and Solm in 2024, DLC in 2025.
That’s pretty much the same except that they knew to consistently space out Engage versus the wait for 3H between August 2019 and March 2020
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They are treated like the dogshit they are, stupid FE6 shitter.
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>>537323974
Remember how Raigh was near the top of Binding Blade in CYL1 but being “rewarded” for that by being a trash launch 3 star with bad art was something he never recovered from?
Actually, did Cordelia also suffer from this? Didn’t Cordelia use to be one of the most popular Awakening girls?
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>>537320636
Actual Engagefags don't play Heroes.
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>>537324364
I mean, Cordelia has three alts and an expy. She was the first resplendent hero as well. I'm pretty sure they just demoted Cordelia because her art was abysmal. As a unit, she had a really good statline for a flier in 2017 (35/35 offences, IIRC the absolute best statline for a flier at the time). I know Ueda has a bad rep, but looking at her art of PIXIV/X it looks perfectly fine so she was probably just rushed / phoned it in and I don't think Cordelia's art was fucking on purpose. I'm not really a big fan of Mayo but she's drawn a lot of characters and also drew for Cipher so I also think someone at IS actually does like her art and she wasn't sabotaged. She also got a really early alt with really great base stats as well (35/35 archer, I actually think she had the best offensive statline for an archer too).
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>>537325115
Still, Cordelia was popular enough back in the day that she got a Summer Scramble convo (like Tharja), an SR card in the very first wave of Cipher (like Tharja), got an expy in Fates (like Tharja), and even got her own scale figure (like Tharja)
But it feels like Cordelia fell off hard while Tharja feels more relevant and has more units
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I genuenly want Heroes to end. I'm so tired that IS dedicates all their FE resources on this trash gacha.
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>>537324364
Cordelia suffered from Nocontent. She was Top 20 for CYL1 and 2, and Top 30 for CYL3.
The second she stopped getting anything and IS pretended she didn't exist, she tanked. And even then, she averages around 50th. She's held a fanbase that IS barely feeds.
Then there's her daughter, who took 8 years to get a base form, so when she finally did she fell from 50th to 110th.
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>>537325985
If she tanked in CYL4 that's not suffering from no content, that's just being destroyed by 3H. So many people defected from Fateswakening characters to 3H ones and they've never recovered from it. 3H murdered fanbases because it offered straight upgrades on characters by bundling multiple tropes into one person and giving them actual depth.
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>>537326313
This. It's just becoming irrelevant over time. It's already started to happen to Engage with CYL9 where literally its entire cast lost support while Houses started surging again. Komuro characters are shallow and don't have longevity.
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FEH used to have this weird effect where random-ass characters like Reinhardt got insane popularity boosts due to being good, while juggernauts like Awakening cast actively became less popular due to mostly producing mediocre to bad units that failed to withstand the test of time, even in the short-term.

Now IS pretty much only makes main characters broken so that they'll retain their popularity in the eyes of the fanbase, and the OCs so that they'll keep getting attention despite the mediocre staying power most of them have, We've kinda lost that wild west where some rando suddenly was a viable death god, now it's just the latest Alear, the latest Edelgard, the latest OC, the latest Tiki etc.
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>>537326439
3H characters are just better, Fateswakengage have a lot of the same archetypes/tropes done worse
Obviously Goldmary is never going to take Dorothea or Hilda's fanbase, they are just better written versions of that same archetype which is why they both crushed her

Until they get a better writing staff FE will just be people liking new characters for a week while recency bias is around and then abandoning them for whatever their rough 3H equivalent is
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>>537326506
>the latest Edelgard
The last Edelgard that was vaguely relevant was Summer, and only for its time. The other two since were just lance and axe reskins, but didn't update the SEdel kit to make them relevant.
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>>537324509
They don’t play Engage either kek
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>>537326875
The Engage modding scene alone is more alive than Heroeslop, lmao
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>>537327107
It’s literally not
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>>537327107
One mod every 12 months isn't "alive" lmao
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>>537327107
>two and a half years later
>like four custom emblems
>not even a Gullveig to entice me
Lame.
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>>537326506
> Awakening cast actively became less popular due to mostly producing mediocre to bad units
What's this cope? Cordelia was the best lance flier in the game, Cherche was the best axe flier in the game, Lucina was probably the second best swordie (after Ryouma and the unreleased Xander), Tharja was the best red mage in the game on account of how good bladetomes were back then (and even when competition dropped in the form of Celica and Katarina she was still basically as good), when she released Bridal Cordelia was the best bow user in the game, bunny Chrom was the best axe infantry unit in the game (actually Legion had a good statspread as well but they were more limited with GHBs back then), Olivia was like the only free dancer, Nowi was better than female Corrin). Awakening characters just fell off on their own.
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>>537327684
I never realized how little I cared for Awakening characters at the time. I think because the game itself was fun and focused on Robin, Chrom and Lucina, all decent characters.
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Did you know not a single hero originating from Fire Emblem Mystery of the Emblem has an alt?
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Is there any other general where its members despise the series the general is about?
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Here are the most popular resplendents as per reddit
discuss
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>>537333091
>half of them are vanaheim
Makes sense.
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>>537311264
Nobody wanted to see Yuri’s nasty ass toes
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>>537332264
Engage isn't the entire series bro
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>>537334608
Just earlier in the thread people were shit talking FE6
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>>537334701
I personally enjoy FE6
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>>537333091
Vanaheimr
You are beloved
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>>537335302
We need more Vanaheim in general.
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>>537327536
>like four custom emblems
The only other one I know is Shez. Who are the others fully custom Emblems?
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>>537338224
Mia and Reinhardt
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Good video. Roy is kinda boring and generic in FE6 and Smash portrays him as this hot headed and fiery character, but he's the COMPLETE opposite.
https://youtu.be/HhhLS0uKxKg
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>>537338224
Mia, Reinhardt, Ophelia, and FShez. There's an MShez model, but I've only seen it as an enemy in one screenshot.
FShez is also offmodel, because the modeler made her super short, when she's actually supposed to be tall for a woman.
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>>537339946
I thought the Shezes were the same height? MShez is a manlet.
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>>537340216
Yes, but FShez is a womangiant.
They're both 5'7", which is 3 inches taller than most women and 3 inches shorter than most men.
Engage itself also got Camilla's height wrong. It says she's shorter than Edelgard, who officially is 5'0". So whoever made Engage thinks Camilla is 4'11".
Which THEN means the ending cutscene of Conquest implies Corrin is like 4'5".
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>>537340443
>Yes, but FShez is a womangiant.
>They're both 5'7",
must be suffering to be M!Shez
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>>537342775
Femleth is 5'4", so he's still taller than his wife.
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I'm going to the better thread
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Deer army did not bring their A game, so far Diamant’s been crushing everything. Haven’t seen a single Camilla or BK to test him against.
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>>537307706
HAG-A-licious!
The BEST OP I've seen in weeks.
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>>537321271
>>537321230
>>537320779
>>537320716
>>537320636
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>>537347431
Isn't Ivy only like 20?
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The cutest
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>>537348030
yeah hagschizo is a known retard
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Nice pair
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>>537348030
She has high tier HAG potential.

>>537348831
Nobody asked for your input.
Trip back on BITCH!
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>>537348030
They made Linoan into a hag, I’m sure Ivy can be counted as a hag.
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>>537355037
I don’t actually know how to solve this, BK can’t hurt Diamant if I don’t initiate, but imbue heals him more than Diamant can hurt him.
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This is the first Weaker hour I've seen for Baldr.
Every time I checked, she was Stronger.
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>>537355137
Can't help you
I don't own these units
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It took 27 turns but I figured it out.
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>>537355665
Sorry hasn’t meant to make that a reply
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>>537356554
I know
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>>537315998
engage is actually good unlike 3hrt
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>>537349904
why is ivy drooling?
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>>537356834
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>battle sim is dead
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>>537357759
Wait what
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>>537357759
>It simulated feh so perfectly it also dies
Kino
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>>537357176
She saw her favorite food and is very hungry
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Other thread is still up desu wa
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I want to sniff Guinivere's stocking covered feet
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>>537335302
>needs reddit for validation
pathetic
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>>537360476
Miredy....
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please post in my fucking thread PLEASE
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Nah
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le oranje
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>>537360908
Okay :)
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I miss Nowibro (the real one)
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>>537361397
/ourguy/
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>>537362250
Meant to
>>537361034
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I don't like any of these niggas
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>>537362753
Baldr has boobs.
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>>537362753
Byleth is literally (You)
Baldr has breasts
Who cares about the others
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CYL 7 free pick ends in 23 hours
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>>537362812
>OC slop
Hell fucking no
>>537363110
Byleth sucks shit
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>>537363424
Then just close your eyes, spin the phone around and choose. That's what I did when I accidentally redeemed the CYL 8 summon.
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>>537362753
this is so shit
give me the engage
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>>537363535
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Disgusting
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>>537364591
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>>537366091
Can I get a link to the full pic?
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Celine's feet smell absolutely amazing
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>Nemesis is the final boss of 3H as per Engage
>In 3H the preferred house for Hanneman is Blue Lions, the preferred house for Manuela is Black Eagles
Interesting. It very much appears Golden Deer is the canon route.
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alear's pussy smell absolutely divine
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this thread >>537307781 is still up
That other guy was right. the kete threads really are made by a mod
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>>537368819
Celice>>>>Celine
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My First Force
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>>537366689
https://files.catbox.moe/dqvvzy.jpg
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>>537375675
weird looking kiran
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the anti engage and tranianne rambling from the previous thread was kinda funny. kek
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Who do you think will be on the next Fates banner? Fates is next in line, last one was Gen 1 so this next one should be Gen 2
Mitama and Sophie are female Gen 2s still not in the game so either or both guaranteed, which other girl gets the asset alt? Soleil because she lacks an alt? Asugi, Hisame, Igantius and Percy remain as the other Gen 2s not in after that
If the banner is Hoshido, I could see Selkie/Mitama/Asugi/Hisame, if Nohr Soleil/Sophie/Percy/Ignatius?
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We are fucked
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>>537379286
Gen 1 can mix with Gen 2 for fates and a OC willbe there as well
I expect only ONE new fate character to be on the banner
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>>537379724
i hate localizers so much
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the worst part of ar-o has to be having half your team be dead weight mythics who don't do anything useful
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>>537381195
They are here to stay
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>>537381283
Indeed
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>>537382476
AI sloppa will replace them sooner or later
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>>537379724
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rdj3xQozanM

Western developers (localizers) can't handle chicks like her.
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>>537379724
Damn, shit writing in two languages
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>>537363535
The theme is CYL winners.
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>>537383669
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KIlqbM2vFDQ

wrong video
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>>537384582
Ouch
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>>537384582
that's actually mindblowing considering they're mostly literal whos
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>>537387601
You should see how literal who all of the losers were.
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>>537384582
so that's why it was so shit
cyl a shit!
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>>537379724
>>537383669
>>537384679
>Japanese Version: Shit quirky meme dialogue not worth reading
>English Version: Shit quirky meme dialogue not worth reading
WE'RE LITERALLY BEING GENOCIDED BRAHS
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>>537387601
Which tells you a lot about Engage, doesn't it?
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i think feh should eos
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>>537388510
FEH is the last lifeline this series has after Engage killed the mainlines.
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That Fjorm yuri collection is out and about online. Interested?
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>>537390404
*crickets chirp*
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What's the seasonal theme for next month again? Will Clarisse finally get an alt?
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>>537389027
good. ill alear post when that happens
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RotomKINO!!
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Alright, which emblem, eirika, lyn or micaiah? Already have Sigurd on +1, and Celica. Also have MAlear +1, Noire and Lena from the banner.
Also, maid banner. Do i go for +1 Veronica, or get any other units?
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>>537394490
Eirika is the best
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>>537393160
It was Tribes for the last 3 years; we got Flame, Wind and Ice Tribes in that order, we might move on to the Kitsune or Wolfskin Tribes this year (meaning laguz/beasts)
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>>537393160
Fatesslop, the worst seasonal theme.
If we get Emblem Roy next month I think he will be the only FE6 unit for this book like how FE4 and Valentia only got Sigurd/Celica last year. If we don't I bet they will toss a few pity alts on one of the Fates/Halloween/Ninja seasonal themes.
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>>537396890
Thanks Engage for wasting so many slots on diarrhea like Veyle and Celine!!!!!
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>>537363424
>Byleth is literally (You)
Stop sucking shit anon
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Did any other book heroine so far get treated as badly as Reginn when their asset alt came? Remember, Reginn’s asset alt was a lance cav that released like a week before Emblem Sigurd
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>>537405678
Dagr was the true heroine
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>>537405678
Eirs ascended is pretty trash
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>>537405678
Eir's the closest you get.
>wasn't the new unit type, that went to Lif
>didn't get the music video, that also went to Lif
>puppet theater retcons Lif's actions to make him less retardedly evil, but doesn't give Eir anything new
Only difference was that Eir actually won her story. She beat Lif without the Ymir buff, then went on to beat Ganglot with it.
AReginn is also an amazing unit. She's not ESigurd, but she's a close second.
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>>537405678
Has any main girl consistently failed to rank in the CYL top 300 as much as Reginn?
They didn't bother because they knew nobody would roll even if she was meta.
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>>537408830
>Has any main girl consistently failed to rank in the CYL top 300 as much as Reginn?
Pretty sure that started happening when people saw how hard Eir got shat on with Book 4.
The leads used to debut at ~40, but then Peony was at like 179 and Reginn at 116. Even Heidr ranked higher than Seidr.
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>hit 9.50% on the CYL banner
>still get nothing
>had to spark Baldr
Guess I'll free pick Byleth?
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>>537409124
Heidr is superior to Seidr
Too bad they reduce her as a Seidr enabler
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>>537409392
>Heidr wants to watch her sister/mom fuck Kiran
>also just an amazing unit, even years later
Was she based?
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>>537406834
What's the problem?
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>>537409529
Too much based that they kill her off and will never be allow to clear thing with Kiran
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>>537411148
>didn't give her a cool monster fallen unit
>doesn't show up in Forging Bonds, despite tons of dead characters appearing there
>probably won't be seen again until next June, and that's still a maybe
Meanwhile, we're on our like third Askr, and he's just fucking dead with no shot of returning.
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>>537403461
Byleth is also bi and takes dick up the ass from Yuri and Lin. Can’t be my self-insert
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Does M!Shez take dick?
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>>537412735
No but Shez can’t officially get with anyone
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>>537393783
>Hooters Lucina
>kino
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>>537412735
Shez has no paired endings. All Shez gets is a letter from whoever he gave the whistle to.
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>>537413248
>>537414623
Based SIGMA. Not a cumdrainer like M!Byleth
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>>537415438
It's more than Koei designed Hopes to not "step on the feet of Houses" or fuckwhatever the excuse was.
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I wonder if we'll ever get another Three Hopes New Heroes banner with Hopes alts
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remodeling baldr's shithole
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>>537415684
The amount of Hopes units was rather small, when you think about it. One NH banner, two legends, a mythic, Rearmed Ingrid, and then Winter Dorothea and Annette. I think that was it?
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>>537416025
*mouthhole
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baldr instructing hodr how to suck summoner's dick
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>>537415684
We might get another Hopes banner if IS wants to sell the 3H lords in their Hopes outfits. I could see them shoehorning in Claude (and maybe even Lysithea) because the remaining Golden Deer students are all demote fodder.
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>>537416636
Attuned Lysithea would make sense for the next banner, but nobody would be mad if they also threw in Ascendant Claude or Attuned Edelgard.
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>>537416636
Claude's 3 Hopes' outfit kicks ass. I don't know what they're waiting on to release an alt with that design
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>>537415684
Maybe? They're running out of base alt students.
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>>537417438
>I don't know what they're waiting on to release an alt with that design
Fourth Timerra alt.
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>>537417689
They actually have enough for two banners still. A Golden Deer banner, and then also still more Church units. But any Asset units will probably also increase the delay, like if the next banner is a Book 6 OC and Lysithea, then either Raphael is getting turned into a quest unit or he's not getting in at all yet.
Engage is also like three NH banners away from having everyone.
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>>537416848
Honestly you can make a 3H banner with just the Golden Deer cast. Throw in Claude and Lysithea in whatever combination of Attuned/Rearmed/Whatever New Unit type the Cow is introducing. The rest of the banner is between the pairing of Lorenz & Leonie or Ignatz & Raphael. Finally, you got Claude's brother as the GHB.
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>>537417689
All that's left are the deers. So it would be asset Claude or Lysithea, Leonie, Lorenz. Raphael and Ignatz would have to duke it out over the last slot
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>>537418613
>Throw in Claude and Lysithea in whatever combination of Attuned/Rearmed/Whatever New Unit type the Cow is introducing.
Well that's three units already, so you get one more banner slot, MAYBE an instademote (happens sometimes with OCs, but other times not) and a GHB.
So if you add Claude, at least two people are getting cut and waiting another year.
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>>537418613
I would bet:

OC + Asset Lysithea + Lorenz + Leonie + Instant demote Ignatz + GHB Raphael
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>>537419389
Leonie might not actually be there, if the OC is a girl. A banner already having two sellers that are both girls would incentivize saving Leonie, unless she herself is a Rearmed and the OC is not an Asset unit.
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>>537419389
That IS basically what they did last year
OC (I think it was Dagr?) + Asset Marianne + Ashe + Dorothea + Instant demote Caspar + Metodey GHB
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>>537419514
Depends on who the OC girl is, last year they knew people wouldn't roll for Reginn/Dagr because they don't have any fans.
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>>537419389
Who's demoted, Lorenz or Leonie?
They can't all be 5 stars, only Engage gets that.
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>>537419821
I genuinely rolled for Reginn because I like her, and accidentally got Timerra along the way.
I then rolled for Marianne and somehow did not get a single Dagr along the way. So my Severa does not have reposition gait.
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>>537420019
Well last year it was Dorothea when it should have been Ashe so its hard to say
I think Lorenz would probably be the 5* because there's more you could do with him in terms of gimmicks, he could be a cav mage and he also has a crest and a personal skill that could be turned into a prf
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Here, let's try a though experiment.
What character getting an asset alt (so even a repeat release) on a NH banner would get you to roll?
Any game, doesn't matter. Attuned Edelgard, Attuned Lyn, Ascendant Olwen, Aided Femleth, whoever. What would actually get you to roll?
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>>537420420
>he also has a crest and a personal skill that could be turned into a prf
Felix and Marianne are still waiting on that.
Sylvain got fuckall. They made him an axe unit!
I think we'd sooner see Lysithea dual-wielding Thyrsus and Suttungr than Lorenz get anything.
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Well I guess L!Diamant is somehow both better and worse than I thought, I expected him to tank Y!Camilla and lose to BK, but it’s the other way around.
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>>537420429
Lots, I roll every other banner (lol; but I do have lots of one offs rather than going for high merges
>Archanea
Camus, Minerva, Michalis, Jorge, Astram, Lena, Ogma, Navarre, Elice, Yuliya, Sheena, Linde. I'd probably even roll for the Temple Knights to be honest. I don't think I would roll for Merric, Caeda, Marth and Tiki but I thought that last time and I rolled for Tiki anyway.
>Valentia
All good on Valentia
>Jugdral
Literally anyone playable from FE4, unless I was saving for someone in particular, then for bosses Julius, Travant and Arvis. I know they're in FE4, but FE5 Finn and Nanna, Asbel, Olwen, Mareeta again, Miranda and Saias. (Probably Reinhardt too)
>Binding Blade
Roy, Shanna, Raigh, Lugh
>Blazing Blade
Don't think I'd roll anyone
>Sacred Stones
Ewan and Myrrh
>Tellius games
Kurthnaga, Zelgius if he was rocking his red armour, that'd probably be it I'm not the biggest fan of the Tellius cast
>Awakening
F!Morgan
>Fates
No-one
>3H
Lysithea, Ferdinand (I really like his War Phase design), Sothis probably
>Engage
No idea. The characters I like the most from Engage aren't in yet (Anna is as an alt, then Jean and Zelkov).

That being said, I'm sure I'll see a character I never thought of and think they look good and roll. If a character has shitty art or a bad costume, I also wouldn't roll even if I liked the character.
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>>537406834
Mentally ill 3hrts of course lol
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>>537420429
TWO YEARS
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Do you think Roy, the LORD OF MISTREATMENT, will get BIGLY Mistreated again or get something cool in his Emblem? Can see Maeda sabotaging him again. 3 and a half years since he got anything.
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>>537424847
Well if he gets that miracle effect it would be kinda neat
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>>537420429
>Archanea
Minerva, Palla, Catria, Wolf
>Valentia
Kliff, Mae, Clair
>Genealogy
I roll for every Jugdral unit, but if I could choose: Sigurd, Arvis, Ayra, Lewyn, Brigid again, Eldigan, Finn, Altena, Oifey, Ares, Travant
>Thracia
Same as above but also Olwen, Misha and Salem
>FE6
Probably nobody
>FE7
Lyn, Eliwood, Hector
>FE8
L'Arachel
>FE9/10
Nephenee and Mia
>Awakening
FMorgan, Lucina, MRobin
>Fates
Nobody
>Three Houses
Constance, Hapi, Dimitri, Edelgard, Claude, Lysithea, Marianne, Felix, Bernadetta, Hilda, Dorothea, Sylvain, Ferdinand, Lorenz, either Byleth, either Shez, Rodrigue, Yuri
>Engage
Nobody
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>>537424847
Last time a game only got an Emblem unit for an entire book it was Celica and Sigurd who were both very strong
The biggest thing holding him back is the fact he's pretty shallow and doesn't really have a gimmick that could make him stand out
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>>537424847
>Sword infantry
>Looks at Marth
DOA
His only chance at relevancy is giving miracle to every unit in the game
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>>537424949
Roy, not being mistreated? Now *that* would be a Miracle.
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Why would you ever expect Roy to be meta? He has no personal skill, no notable PRF effects, no personality, there's literally nothing you can really do with him other than generic sword lord. He doesn't have a "thing." Engage had to totally make something up for him.
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>>537426989
They had to invent stuff for Marth too
Seliph has the same problem
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>>537426989
Because Hold Out is already annoying on Marni so I bet it'll be super annoying on Emblem Roy.
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>>537420429
any Myrrh , Sara and Delthea are a must pull for me
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Other thread still up
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:D
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>>537434572
What would you call this bodytype, and can I see Seidr in it?
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I hope the next Fire Emblem game plays like Three Houses.
Are there any other FE games (or games from other series) that play like and have a story like Three Houses?
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>>537435350
Persona 5.
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>>537435350
Not really, 3H is pretty unique in the franchise, you can play Hopes assuming you already haven't.
It's based off Genealogy so the story beats and settings are similar, but the gameplay is vastly different
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>>537420429
I only roll on Three Houses banners. 3H is bigly, hugely mistreated right now.
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>>537434572
Feeling very sad today. Can I get a hug?
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Cakeveig.
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Cute couple?
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>>537440358
If the MRobin and MMorgan supports with Severa were combined, it'd be perfect.
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>>537418613
> 3 Hopes Lysithea getting in over War Arc Lysithea

That'd be my worst nightmare. Her 3H outfit is more fitting to her personality, but her War Arc outfit is drop dead gorgeous. And I prefer her hairstyle as well.
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>>537420429
I've been waiting for this fucking character for 8 YEARS.

8 YEARS.
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>>537441909
Same here actually
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>>537441909
Huh? What's that? Another Micaiah?! Okay!
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>>537442829
Kek
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>>537442829
I'll take a duo Micaiah

pls don't hate me volug bros
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>>537443893
There already is a Duo Micaiah. People just forget because Micaiah sucks and Sothe sucks worse.
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>>537443975
I'll take *another duo Micaiah
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>>537444151
You'll never guess what happened.
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>>537441771
It's a bit of coin toss to see what they pick. Ingrid and Hilda were Hopes, but then Marianne was actually War Phase and even implied to be AM Marianne at that. I don't really mind either.
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>>537443893
They keep giving Miccy every possible alt except for Light Sage, it’s annoying that Lord Ike and Light Sage Micaiah are in the never ever club.
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>>537450381
Oh please, she gets an alt every year. Literally the only year she didn't was when she was backpacked to Sanaki.
If you just wait long enough, they'll make Aided Micaiah who is Light Sage with a Yune accessory.
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>>537444335
The Empress's exposed feet...
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>>537452397
How the fuck is Sanaki in power at all after it got exposed that Micaiah is the real heir and she's a fraud?
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>>537452397
Imagine cumming thick ropes all over her toes and she acts disgusted but secretly likes it.
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>>537452531
Micaiah is the true apostle, but Sanaki was raised to rule Begnion. She is quite competent in spite of her age, is likely a popular ruler with the populace, merchants and clergy of Begnion, given that only the nobility and part of the military turn against her during the course of RD. By the end of it, the Begnion court is absolutely in shambles, with only Sigrun, Tanith and Oliver surviving the crisis, which would only make it clearer to the remaining nobles that would fill the gap left by the dead Senators that she's not someone to mess with.
Also, Micaiah very clearly considers Daein to be her actual homeland, and is already seen in a messianic light by its inhabitants. I think it's dumb that Pelleas gives her the crown when his entire character arc is living up to the hopes placed on him and learning how to be a king the people of Daein can rely on, but I guess him directly naming her queen still makes more sense than her taking the crown in the event that he's dead when there's people like Tauroneo and Fiona (ahahahahaha no) that are actual Daein nobility probably have a better idea of how to rule the country than some chick who "walked the streets".

Either way, Tellius's religious center will likely move from Begnion to Daein with the actual apostle living there. Begnion will miss out on that sweet pilgrim revenue, I guess.
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>>537450535
>Oh please, she gets an alt every year
I don't really know why people single her out for this when all the lords IS doesn't hate have at most missed one year of alts. Lyn and Claude and Alear got two in a year not counting a Brave. Eirika got THREE. Ike only missed 2021 and the only difference between him and Miccy is that he didn't get backpacked his off year.
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>>537456618
the truth is you're probably going to get a year 1 5* no matter what you pick
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>>537456043
>lowest-selling mainline game's lord gets alts more often than literally everyone else
>the only exceptions are the most giga-popular characters in the franchise
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>>537443975
I think it's weird how nobody remembers how Micaiah used to be heavily hated in the community and was considered to be a shitty Mary Sue due how poorly written she is. I guess the community is just filled with children or something.
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>>537456948
It was a combo of two things:
1) Nobody played Radiant Dawn.
2) Corrin did basically everything Micaiah did, but in the (at the time) highest-selling game that everyone played.
Both combined in various ways over the years to end up in a situation where Micaiah is basically a Heroes character instead of an RD character. Like how people thought Roy was a spunky guy because of Melee and Smash 4, when he was just a wimpier Marth in FE6.
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>>537420429
I don't know what flavor of ascended or attuned this would be (if either), but I just want Ike with Ettard. I have been waiting for years. He was on that survey with Zihark and Stefan so who knows what RD sword they'll actually go with.
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>>537456846
>less alts (not counting backpacks) than Lyn, Eirika, Lucina, Camilla, and Marth
>same amount of alts as Ike, Edelgard, Chrom, and Lucina
>only one more alt than Celicar and Ephraim

>"more alts than literally everyone else"
>>537456948
Micaiah used to be heavily hated because the community use to gargle Ike's balls and got mad she stole "his" main char slot even though she literally gets bodyjacked and becomes a side character in her own game, and half the reason people like her more now is because people realize Ike is the actual Mary Sue of Tellius and he's not as popular as he used to be.
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>>537456752
Damage report, surprising amount of 17 year olds…
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>>537458276
>>"more alts than literally everyone else"
Were you incapable of reading the second line? There were only two lines.
>that second reply
Oh, you're just insane. Ok.
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>>537459080
>multiple mariannes and rheas
Based. Merge those Tsubasas, too.
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>>537459707
Done forma copy btw
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>>537460559
Oh hey, we found one of Tsubasa's voters.
You looking forward to the revolverwing art when she wins?
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>>537456948
The hate shift to the other white haired girl
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>>537460678
Anticipating her hard lock 1st place and art done by revolverwing
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>>537434783
in the biz, we call that a woman
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>>537459540
>Were you incapable of reading the second line? There were only two lines.
I responded to it? The "giga-popular characters in the franchise" are pretty much all lords. I pointed out she doesn't get noticeably more alts than any of them except the Jugheads and Roy, who IS hate for whatever reason.
>but her game didn't sell!
If sales justified alts then no game before Awakening should even get banners, shut the fuck up.
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>>537461283
>art done by revolverwing
Jesus.
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>>537461475
Huh. It's interesting that the AI can tell most of her details, but doesn't notice she wears a leotard-in-shorts type deal.
It also can't quite comprehend that her eyes glow. Instead, it's struggling to figure out what to do with her pupils.
But it almost has the Vanaheim logo down now.
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>>537461493
Imagine pretending that Micaiah is equal in value to Chrom or Edelgard.
Fuck, she has like double what the Byleths each have.
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>>537461838
>magine pretending that Micaiah is equal in value to Chrom or Edelgard.
Micaiah literally won CYL before Chrom and if you're the Marianneschizo who argues she only won because of reddit I'm not even going to bother replying anymore.
>Fuck, she has like double what the Byleths each have.
Then you should be more upset about chars like Julia and Caeda and Lilina getting more alts than CYL winners just because they're lord orbiters (Lilina literally has more alts than Roy), let alone the actual shitters no one likes like Yarne and Nailah and Karla, instead of complaining about a lord getting a lord number of alts.
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>>537462464
>Micaiah literally won CYL before Chrom
Even you admitted you know why.
>Then you should be more upset about chars like Julia and Caeda and Lilina getting more alts than CYL winners
They don't get as much as Micaiah does. Like, Julia only gets something every few years. Micaiah gets something EVERY year.
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>>537462580
>Even you admitted you know why.
Yeah,because people wanted her to win.
>Micaiah gets something EVERY year.
So just like Ike, Lyn, Eirika, and Edelgard?
>They don't get as much as Micaiah does.
If your argument is that Micaiah doesn't deserve her alts because of game sales or popularity they're ten thousand times more dev favored than her. In fact not only does Lilina have more alts than Roy, Julia has more alts than Seliph, despite the fact neither have even been in the top 20 of CYL.
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>>537462954
i love boobtensia's artist so much
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>>537463450
>Yeah,because people wanted her to win.
Yes, but you know why. It's not because people played her game. Far from it.
>So just like Ike, Lyn, Eirika, and Edelgard?
People complain about the yearly Eirika, but people actually wanted the other three. Unlike Micaiah.
>they're ten thousand times more dev favored than her.
What? IS didn't even think Lyn could win CYL. And they openly hate Fodlan.
What crack are you smoking?
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When?
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>>537464346
>Yes, but you know why. It's not because people played her game. Far from it.
You're right, it's because people saw how cute she was when her base form got in and voted for her. Mystery solved.
>People complain about the yearly Eirika
No they do not. People complain more about Lyon than they do detto.
>What? IS didn't even think Lyn could win CYL. And they openly hate Fodlan.
Why are you talking about Lyn? And you say I can't read?
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>>537461475
Fuck off cancer
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>>537440039
This week was a bump in the road, Anon. You can start fresh again tomorrow.
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>>537452531
Because Sanakis beauty is divine.
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>>537468682
Fuck off
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>>537468682
Please kill yourself
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>>537461701
Here's how she looks when generated in NAI v4.5, which is technically more accurate but I personally prefer the art style of v4. There's probably way to tweak the style in v4.5, but if you're expecting an AIfag to put in extra effort then you're going to be disappointed.
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>>537470616
I'm no expert, but don't you just tell it which specific artist to dupe?
Like you'd say revolverwing or ormillef?
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Was Braverena added to the loading screen?
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>>537470215
this
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And the deer is dead
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>>537477483
Baldr lost. She was in Stronger for almost the entire thing, and it crept up on her at the very end.
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>>537477483
>>537477689
I forgot this shit, just checked and Byleth won
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>one round in
>already 75% 3H
Sounds like a CYL, yeah.
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Sharena lost, I officially don’t care about this VG anymore.
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>>537478053
Huh? But anon. You need to make Alfonse suffer.
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>Byleth's the only CYL 9 winner to advance
Even if you excuse Baldr by "too big to win", it's clear who won CYL 9 by actual genuine popularity
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>>537479057
Anon, VGs are coinflips. You can see that just from Baldr. She had 4x the army that Bernie did, but still lost.
They're literally designed to make Camilla lose. Are you going to argue that Camilla wasn't popular in 2017 now?
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>>537479170
I literally said "Too big to win" for Baldr
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>>537479057
Sharena is clear pity votes, yes but faggotdeer and Baldr also won on popularity. Fotm popularity but popularity nonetheless.
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>>537479290
Sure, but I'm just saying it doesn't matter much at all.
And this is from someone that knows Sharena and Eikthyrnir were never popular.
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>>537479057
>>537479170
I wonder where that Baldr army is gonna migrate now. It's clear Sharena and Eik would just go to Alfonse. Unironically, Byleth is the weakest position here because none of the lost teams overlap with him.
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>>537479740
I'm thinking of Manleth, honestly.
I genuinely don't like Bernie, Felix is ok but not for me, and I hate Alfonse.
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TOTAL FODLAN VICTORY
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Goat.
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How are Reddit coping with the fact Felix bodied the meme deer in same hell on raw popularity alone?
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Tell me about Thea feet
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>>537480587
He already got bodied on first hour by being the only CYL 9 winner to be weaker.
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Next seasonal is ballroom dancers with Soiree GullNidhoggr on it
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>>537481478
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>Baldrshit lost
kwab filthy whore
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>>537480834
Soft
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>Sharena lost
Why am I not surprised ISIS would rig the VG outcome in Alfonse's favor
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>>537480454
*flops*
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>>537468387
What's your beef, pal?
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>>537483587
wasn't she raping bernie since hour 1? god this mode is so stupid
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I miss inheritable non-bow with effective effet
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>>537468836
Stop being so rude.
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>>537487719
You are not wanted here
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>>537487719
fuck off AI shitter
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>>537470215
You've been saying this for months, shouldn't you know by now that it's never going to happen?
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>>537483587
Baldr vs Bernie
>Baldr: Oh ho ho ho ho~ a chudette looked you pales in comparison to the shining glory of a transgirl like me! I’m afraid this is the end for you (Baldr is a male Norse god so Baldr is a Troon)
>Baldr fires his rifle, however he whiffs the shot as Bernadette is rocking a lithe, small, incredibly feminine form
>Bernie: Eek! *The discharge of the rifle startled Bernie who looses her arrow early, causing it to sail right into Baldr’s Adam’s Apple, killing him instantly*
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kill bernie
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>stomp the shit out of enemy
>lose because lol multipliers
Voting gauntlets are stupid
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>>537492567
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>Baldr is getting gangbanged by Garreg Machs students rn
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>>537493232
most of them are me
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>>537493232
>Sharena, Robin and Baldr indebted to Fodlan
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>IS didn't rig Alfonse and he really won goys
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>>537495027
Alfonse is not exactly a Heroes rep (no matter how much IS likes to pretend). But it's funny that even with 3H being split into 3 units, the "other" rep can't remotely make a dent.
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There's no such thing as "enough Edelgard content"
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3hrt "humor"
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>>537501742
i will have four some with alear, goldmary and merrin.
you anon can watch from the cuck chair or have sex with rosado
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>>537490738
No I haven't, you schizophrenic retard. This is literally the first time I've told you to kill yourself.
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Killing myself...
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>>537503605
>rolling for literal shit
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>>537495818
A part of me wants this remake to happen so we can see people finally realizing that FE4 isn't this majestic masterpiece that some Kaga fans claim to be since the game hasn't been localized yet
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>>537495818
I haven't followed anything Nintendo in a while but are they dropping the games on the Switch 1 too?

Because a fire emblem exclusive to S2 and without the possibility of an emulator in at least 5 years is crushing
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Does anybody have the Velouria bikini piece done by the same artist as pic related (@activeajames)? Both were deleted, from what I can tell, but I could still find the pic of Selkie. I thought they were pretty neat so I was hoping I could find something somewhere
This is probably a stupid place to ask but I didn't where else to start.
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>>537505491
They have fodder I want and stuff like double SP
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>>537508571
here you go
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>>537509242
Woah that was quick. Thank you!
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FEH is, at this period in time, a cancer. I guarantee you IS is sitting on its ass doing nothing with this series because FEH currently IS this series. It needs to be purged. Healthy cells will not appear unless the diseased ones are removed by scalpel. Let it end, please.
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ISIS taking their time developing the next game is a good thing.
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>>537514859
Just like they spent a decade on Engage
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>>537513152
>IS is sitting on its ass doing nothing with this series because FEH currently IS this series
I wonder what game's fault that is.....
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we need engage 2
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>>537515268
I want Engage Warriors because it would be the first FE game in a long time to sell <300k
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>>537517095
Engage 2 would too lol.
Sequels always do worse and it would also be a sequel to something people didn't like in the first place.
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they could release a new ballroom banner with gullveig on it and earn 65 million dollars off 1 banner but theyd rather do a banner for Sucking Off Dogs Festival and put some literally who faggot like kent on there
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>>537517753
The Sucking Off Dogs Festival featuring:
Quombopolus the Book 5 OC
Scrunko and Jinkies, two of the many Engage characters with no fans.
Craig, a character that doesn't rank in the top 500 in CYL and already has three alts.

IT'S A MASTERPIECE!
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>>537444335
On my list to +10. I just need 10 copies. Also, major missed opportunity since Zelgius was on the banner and the dude two timed both of their armies.

But I'll take **another duo Micaiah. Don't care if she's a backpack or not in >>537443893 this case.
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>>537515081
The rumors have always said that Engage was finished a long time ago. The issue was that Nintendo sat on it for years and they were doing that release strategy of announcing a game and immediately releasing it months later.
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>>537519541
Thing is, since that's the case it means they've been working on another FE game for years and yet it's STILL been nearly three years since Engage came out.
Which makes me think the reception to Engage has led to drastic changes and whatever they were working on may have been scrapped completely.
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Sometimes I think that people don't have real opinions. Like if they weren't told Michaelangelo was the best in his time he wouldn't be as famous
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>>537519541
They're not rumours
The devs have said the game was originally planned to be finished for 2020 for the 30th anniversary
That got delayed by Covid
This is backed up by the fact that the release build of Engage was dated mid-2021

Why they didn't release it at any point from 2021 to 2023 can be figured out quite easily
In 2021 Three Houses was still massively and selling 500k copies a year and eating into that momentum would have been awful from a business perspective
In 2022 we got Three Hopes as the last hurrah for Three Houses
Shortly after Hopes, Engage is revealed, 3 months later, Engage is released

Internal data lists 3H as FE17 but Engage as FE19 which means there was an inbetween game
What happened to FE18, nobody knows and anybody who tells you they do is bullshitting
It wouldn't make sense to be an Engage sequel because its listed before Engage which means it COULD have been a remake
Why we never got it is also a mystery, could be it didn't work out, could be that Engage's performance convinced them not to launch the series on Switch 2 with a remake since the previous game had underperformed so hard and remakes generally do worse
Which means they could have put the remake on ice or scrapped it completely and started working on something completely new that learns from the Switch era
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>>537521005
>What happened to FE18, nobody knows and anybody who tells you they do is bullshitting
What about that second 3DS FE remake rumor? It was supposedly in development but it got shelved after the sales of the Bowser's Inside Story remake finally made Nintendo retire the 3DS. 3H was originally suppose to release in 2018 but it got delayed to 2019. It kinda lines up timeline wise I suppose. That could be the mythical FE18 game. Unless FE18 is actually Heroes even though it came out before 3H
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Next main game will be a sequel to FEH
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>>537460559
There aren't enough slots for the skills she wants tbqh. But with enough support she can take on the sneks, I have to do some testing against the BK, but she needs potent Assault. Have a teammate on this VG leading with Tsubasa who seems to outdamage mine running Speedtaker + Eirika ring with his PA + Celica ring.
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>>537521005
From dev interviews and internal data it seems like the original release plan and expectations for the Switch era was:

>In 2018 (remember 3H got delayed) Three Houses is supposed to be released and its expected to be a smaller stopgap release for the older fans.
>In 2020 Engage follows up on Three Houses and is the big release for the Switch, serving as the Awakening of the Switch era and introducing millions of new fans. Also supposed to be an adrenaline shot for Heroes according to the dev interview where they start advertising Heroes and talking about how they hope Engage's cast are characters people love for years.
>At some point after 2020, FE18 releases, although we don't know what FE18 is. Based on the 3DS era it seems likely it would have been a remake.

That's it for the Switch era.

Instead what happened was:
>2019 - Three Houses actually releases but instead of being a lowkey release, it's an overnight smash hit and has outsold Fates' lifetime sales in just under a year.
>2020 - Covid hits, delaying game development across the world.
>2021 - Engage finally finishes development, but its in a context where Three Houses is still a runaway success selling hundreds of thousands of copies every year still. Releasing a new game would torpedo that longevity for no reason, so they don't announce Engage.
>2021 - Admittedly this next part is just me guessing and isn't based on anything developers have said: Three Hopes begins development in early 2021 to cash in on the unexpected success of Three Houses. The game is clearly unfinished and an asset flip, it was rushed out to capitalise on 3H.
>2022 - Three Hopes releases, sells another million, shortly afterwards Engage is announced in September.
>2023 - Engage actually releases, to a mixed reception. Does not become the new Awakening like they planned. Has notoriously awful long-term sales and objectively underperforms.
>Post-2023: Whatever FE18 is, it has vanished into mist.
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>>537520246
People's thinking, how they think or what they think about is a product of their environment. Ladies are incredibly susceptible to propaganda and following the crowd.
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>>537521005
Intelligent Systems considers Heroes as mainline, Sakurai said Heroes was FE18, Fire Emblem Heroes is Fire Emblem 18 and nobody will accept it.
There is no FE6 manga, Cipher, TMS, or Warriors representation in Engage, but there are Heroes rings and a Heroes Emblem. Iron18 is stated in 'data.unity3d' in the data of Engage but was changed to Iron19 in all future instances meaning they changed their mind on Heroes's status by the time they decided on the Heroes crossover and including Veronica as an Emblem, which mind you, had her Legendary design revealed at the end of 2021 while Engage's final build was from mid 2021.
There's no fucking way that Three Houses released on July 26, 2019, Cindered Shadows released on February 12, 2020, and had planned to announce Engage on April 20, 2020, but there is some mysterious FE4 remake sandwiched in the middle, it's all cope and the "FE4 remake is also in development" rumor that came with the Engage leaked photos, when that was stated by a different anon and not the same leaker who leaked the photos.
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>>537522571
>Iron18 is stated in 'data.unity3d' in the data of Engage
Source?
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>>537522698
https://tcrf.net/Fire_Emblem_Engage#Internal_Project_Name
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>>537522798
Your link is inconclusive. It doesn't definitively state what you're claiming and implies it could also be from a separate development.
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>>537522571
>it's all cope and the "FE4 remake is also in development" rumor that came with the Engage leaked photos, when that was stated by a different anon and not the same leaker who leaked the photos.
This is completely false.
The source for the imgur album is the Reddit user Miasmadelta.

https://www.reddit.com/r/fireemblem/comments/vcgblq/the_new_mainline_fire_emblem_leak_is_real/
Miasmadelta's thread was posted at 12:19:15am GMT+1 on June 15th, 2022.

The imgur album leak was posted on 23:57:54pm GMT+1 on June 14th, 2022.

The source of the imgur album is Miasmadelta's post which was made 20 minutes after the images were uploaded. The imgur link was not public on the internet before Miasmadelta's Reddit post. The short interval between the two events and the fact the imgur link wasn't accessible prior to the Reddit thread going public means its impossible for Miasmadelta not to have been responsible.

Now, at the same time, this doesn't mean everything they "knew" was true and it could have been influenced from hearsay. Knowing about Engage doesn't necessarily mean the information they "knew" about an FE4 remake was accurate.

But it is objectively false to say they come from two different sources. They don't. Miasmadelta uploaded the files to imgur and Miasmadelta made the reddit thread detailing Engage and claiming the FE4 remake was real too. It was one person, albeit a person who could be wrong on certain things. We know that despite having access to pre-release Engage material he was mistaken about Gust working on it, for example.
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>>537523573
Imgur album link
https://imgur.com/a/fire-emblem-leak-pics-HGYtCpt

Meanwhile, the "leak" was posted to 4chan 2-3 hours after the Reddit thread and Imgur album were made.
https://arch.b4k.dev/v/thread/602445635/#602476275

It didn't leak onto 4chan, it leaked onto Reddit, and again, there imgur link was not public on the internet at any point in the 20 minutes between the album being made and the Reddit post being made, meaning the Reddit post claiming the FE4 remake is real IS the source of the Engage leak.
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>the fandon treats Awakening as FE13
>it's internal code name is Iron14
>Iron13 was apparently a cancelled FE Wii game with RTS elements
There's a chance Iron18 met the same fate as Iron13. Who knows how far enough in development it even got. Probably not enough to port it over to the Switch.
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>>537523971
It makes me think FE18 was either a remake or a new entry in the tonal/aesthetic style of Engage.
In either scenario it would have been a bad idea to release that game post-Engage. The first because remakes don't do as well even in contexts where they're coming off of the back of successful release (Fates -> Valentia). It would have done even worse in our current environment where the mainline series fanbase is effectively dead post-Engage.

The second because Engage underperformed their expectations and had a mixed reception among fans, so a sequel would have done even worse.
So yeah I don't think we're ever getting Iron18. What we'll probably get in a few years is a game that started development post-Engage release and has course corrected away from it.

You have to be coping pretty hard to pretend Engage's underperformance didn't likely set off alarm bells at IS. There is a huge chasm between the expectation of
>New Awakening that builds on the fanbase established by Fateswakening and introduces millions of new fans.
And
>Actually underperforming Awakening by nearly a million copies.
Based on what they've claimed it seems like they expected Engage to do in the ballpark of 3-4 million as a new Awakening that introduces lots of new fans. Instead, based on 2024 sales figures, it was at 1.6 million by the end of 2023 and still hasn't broken 1.7 million by the end of 2024. That is a massive underperformance no matter how you slice it.
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>>537524739
Engage has also been a double whammy that's put the writing on the wall for FEH too.

When 3H came out FEH was in freefall, yearly revenue dropped by 32% from 2018.
But 2020 was only a 4.4% decline from 2019. 2021 was only an 11.1% decline from 2020.
2022 then saw it resume with a 25.8% decline from 2021.

The success of Three Houses effectively froze the decline for a few years.

Meanwhile, when Engage came out at the start of 2023:
>2023 still saw a 17.5% decline from 2022
>2024 saw a 24.2% decline from 2023
And if you've been reading the room, its pretty clear that Book 9 is going to see one of the biggest crashes in revenue ever because we barely make 2 million a month now.

Three Houses managed to freeze the freefall FEH had been in in 2019 and kept things stable for a few years. Engage barely made a dent in it and a year after its release the game was already back in the same territory it was when no new games were coming out.

Engage set in motion FEH's eventual death by completely failing to freeze the decline like 3H did. I think IS drastically underestimated how reliant FEH is on people liking the mainline games. If they don't have a stream of new mainline characters they like and want to roll for, people don't stick around.
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>>537525215
they prefer the male avatars and seethe when the females are more popular
>rettitbin got 3 alts in 1 year, frobin got 3 alts cucked by grima
>mankris got an alt, femkris still has 0
>mamui gets alts every time femui does even though nobody likes him
>femleth backpacked twice in the same time manleth got 2 alts (desert and winter)
>malear has the same amout of alts as femlear even though nobody likes him
>mamui, manleth and malear all leading the avatar duos
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>>537526971
It does make sense when you put it that way.
Baffling that even Femui gets fucked over by this. They used her for Engage, but still barely give her anything anymore while her male counterpart runs circles around her.
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It's hilarious how Engage caused so much butthurt in this guy that he goes around having copy paste presentations ready to go in his effort to shitpost the game.

Go and host a TED Talk or something, anon.
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>>537528081
Here's her and her daughter.
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New ‘ane and Mars just dropped
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>>537528340
I remember when her refine upset people
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>>537527873
>Doesn't even deny the fact the data is true, just ad hominems
This is why you keep being wrong
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>>537528902
Besides her trying to make out with Severa, it's the only thing she was ever notable for. It made it clear as day that refines existed to sell New Power banners.
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>>537529091
It's just the same retard who spams "huh?" when he gets called out.

Why would I bother talking to a retard who is only interested in seething and obsessing over Engage and not actually talking about anything
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>>537529112
Forging bond art?
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>>537529314
>Doesn't even deny the fact the data is true, just ad hominems
This is why you keep being wrong
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You could have just bought engage and kept the franchise afloat. Now you ensured that Engage is the last FE ever.
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*GULP*
That was a spicy meatball!
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>Convincingly loses to every 3H character even though their vote is split three ways

There is no way this dude won CYL legit
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>>537529514
This gonna be your new phrase?
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>>537529794
I'm not even the original poster you were mad at, I just find it funny you seethe and start schizposting whenever people post data about Engage that is true
It just shows everybody that you know that its true and confirms what the person was claiming, its not an actual argument against what he was saying,
He is autistically obsessed, it still doesn't magically make the stuff he says about Engage underperforming false, which is the stuff that pisses you off
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>>537530070
My original post was just commenting on how autistic he is, there was no comment on the validity of his claims. You're just so obsessed with me that you had to make this about me instead
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>>537530380
Yeah, and attacking him personally shows what he's saying is true and made you angry, that's why people clown on you
You get mad at people talking about Engage underperforming and then seethe impotently and throw around playground insults because them saying it makes you mad but you can't disprove what they're saying... because its true
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It's up!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p-TWn-8rKi4
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>>537530969
I said this before but I love her chibi's shitty autistic gait
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>>537530919
>someone is acting overly autistic and posting charts and dev interviews and etc because one thing made him mad
>point out this guy is autistic
>"AHHH YOU'RE MAD I KNEW IT"
You know by this logic you're just as mad as you claim I am because you keep responding to me trying to push this agenda. If you keep replying it'll only prove me right
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This is my rearmed Noire
It isn't much, but it's more than what a certain tripfag posted
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>>537531426
>P-Please stop responding and making me realise how emotionally immature I am
Making stop crying every time you see data you don't like lol
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>>537531426
Nobody's disputing it's autistic, they're pointing out you're only mad about him because he's right. Nobody else cared enough to respond.
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>>537531607
You're seething so much at me you can't even spell correctly. Take a breather, anon
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>>537530969
>Book 9 has been awful
>Hated CYL and only liked Byleth
huh but I was told these were minority 4chan schizo opinions....
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>>537532586
She also likes Chikorita let's not get ahead of ourselves
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>>537532586
>taking femoid opinions seriously
lol
lmao
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>>537532963
What's wrong with liking Chikorita?
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Bros! It's a Christmas miracle! FEH rose up to $3 million!
FEH is ranked 43rd
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Gullveig > tripcunt > A)
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>>537533972
You’re an aging tumor fetishist perv with a stunted narcissism brain. kekaroo huh?
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>>537535410
>tied with mastersex
grim
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>>537535410
It's so funny to me how P5X committed suicide within a week of release purely because Sega wanted to be greedy.
Imagine having characters that demoted to the main pool in the Chinese version and then announcing you're not going to demote them in Global, making an entire currency worthless. What the fuck did they expect would happen? They made the game unplayable.
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>>537535410
>needs two Fodlan banners, one of which is CYL
Yeah, IS fucked it.
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>>537535712
Where did that hostility come from?
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>>537535410
>P5X dropped from 9 million to 4.5 million
Ladies and Gentlemen, the "FEH Killer."
If September has some strong banners and P5X keeps falling like this we may actually rank ahead of them lmao.

>>537536163
People complain about FEH being mismanaged but they have no idea what real mismanagement looks like. Yes Engage spam/3H drought in Book 8 hurt FEH but nowhere near the extent Sega hurt P5X with all of the changes it made from the Chinese version.
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>>537536741
>Ladies and Gentlemen, the "FEH Killer."
FEH doesn't need a killer, it killed itself with retarded powercreep and esportshit
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>>537537240
>People complain about FEH being mismanaged but they have no idea what real mismanagement looks like.
You're right that Sega just completely retardedly sabotaged their game, but FEH itself is still also mismanaged.
It's basically that one Breaking Bad meme about Walt ruining everything because of his ego. All IS had to do was churn out 20 Fodlan units a year, keep powercrept steady but slow, and release a few big tit girls like Freyja and Gullveig here and there.
But they chose to instead make a fan-service game about things fans don't like.
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>>537538390
this
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>>537539057
Do you think a banner with Leonie, Manuela, Hanneman, Jeritza, and Alois GHB would do as well as the Summer, Christmas, or Valentine's house leaders banners? People only care about Edelgard, Claude, and Dimitri.
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>>537470745
I've never done that before but it definitely seems to do something. This one used the revolverwing tag.
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>>537539737
Going by the last two Fodlan NH banners (RMarianne, RIngrid), we would get something like
>Book 6 TT OC
>Attuned Lysithea/Edelgard
>Ignatz/Raphael
>Lorenz
and then the second banner would be something like
>Book 7 OC
>Attuned Femleth
>Manuela
>Jeritza
Tell me with a straight face that those aren't better than the Yunaka or Timerra banners.
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>>537539959
The AI still makes it a bit blurred, but it certainly does carry the shovel-face Revolverwing used to draw like four years ago.
You can tell how much better he's gotten.
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>>537539057
I think putting a cap on powercreep would be better in the long haul. Remember how IS used to spam Atk/Spd Push 4 on every speedy unit? 26 units have that skill? Now every premium 5* unit has to come with a new skill.
And Summoner Duels in particular can just be mitigated if they just let players fight Kiran bots. The normal point system as is can be for fighting bots, but if you play against another player, the points are doubles.
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>>537535410
The power of Rena
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>Awakening Easy is too easy
>Awakening Hard is too hard
I'm on ch14 where all the paralogues open up. Can't beat them or the main chapter itself. Is the secret removing all units that aren't monsters and just letting them clear? How the fuck am I supposed to raise support ranks with shit units if flying units bumrush the starting zones and reinforcements pop out every other fucking round
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>>537540517
>I think putting a cap on powercreep would be better in the long haul.
You're right. But the reason that's stopped is because they were hoping that powercreep could carry Engage units, Book 8, or even LBK himself.
In truth, players would rather roll for characters whom they like, powercreep or not. And that giving powercreep to a unit people otherwise wouldn't like just makes the banner into a skip. But if the powercreep is bad enough, it can make players leave because they don't want to fucking run seven different LBK counters in Arena Assault!
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you have to be mentally retarded to play arena or feh
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>>537539959
Tell the robot to put its highest voltage through you
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>>537541794
>Brave Sharena actually looks really nice
>IS didn't even give her an intro video like they did with Alfonse
So they just fucking hate her, right?
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>>537501527
The world is not enough to contain it
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>>537542369
Well yes but also IS rigged CYL8 for Alfonse.
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>>537539737
Yeah I really don't know why people say "FODLAN BANNERS" as if the three lords aren't the only banners that noticeably overperform anyone else.
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>>537542913
Considering how a Marianne with an inheritable weapon did better than most banners last year, it's pretty safe to say that "actually giving Fodlan units more content and premium units would do pretty well."
The reason you have to say
>as if the three lords aren't the only banners that noticeably overperform anyone else.
Is because Fodlan rarely even GETS anything except the three lords banners every year. IS just slaps a seasonal like Summer Petra or Spring Sylvain as the lone 3H unit on an otherwise shit banner. Something like Halloween Lysithea+Marianne+Hilda would outperform every Engage banner this year.
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>>537542913
>>537543417
Actually, now that I think on it, what even WERE the last seasonal banners to have 3 Fodlan units on it that weren't the lords?
Teatime and Summer 2 each had two, but what's the last one before that? The previous Teatime banner? Summer 2 was made up of two Ashen Wolves and two Book 8 units, all of which were known flops and still did better than most banners.
As I said before, Fodlan usually just gets slid in there as a one-off, like Flayn in that three Engage unit Halloween banner. It's rare to even get two Fodlan units on a banner at once anymore.
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>>537487801
Yet here I shall remain. This is a Fire Emblem thread.
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Honestly looking back in hindsight, Lysithea being the one to reach the level of the house leaders for CYL4 is absolutely insane. It was entirely people thinking she was broken and stronger/as strong as the lords when a year later she was exposed as an absolute fraud and not that good at all. Literally nobody gives a fuck about her anymore in comparison to Bernie or Bylass who she originally robbed.
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>>537543417
>Considering how a Marianne with an inheritable weapon did better than most banners last year, it's pretty safe to say that "actually giving Fodlan units more content and premium units would do pretty well."
Saying it did "better than most banners" doesn't change the fact there's a visible gap between lords banners and everyone else that's been present for years. The lords are always top of the book, the rest are always middle of the pack
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>>537544470
You posted an accidentally good example for what I'm talking about. Fallen that year was still the sixth-best-selling banner because it had fucking Rhea on it. By herself. She had to carry GUSTAV. Compare that to recent years, when the last two were 50% Engage.
>middle of the pack
Notice how the only character in the lower half of that chart from 3H was Arval, who was a minor character in a spinoff. 3H's Legendary outsold every other 8% that year. The 75% 3H seasonal outperformed the rest. There's a trend here. You'd think they'd be making more Femleths, but they're not. Hell, the only time 3H "middled" that year was Rearmed Lif, a banner with an OC nobody likes and that IS put fucking Monica on instead of Female Shez. So just more mismanagement.
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>>537543950
>what even WERE the last seasonal banners to have 3 Fodlan units on it
The 3H Winter banner with Yuna-
>that weren't the lords?
Umm... I'm going to assume you mean two 3H units on the banner and the third gets TT'd. There was Lysithea and Manuela on the winter banner plus Ignatz getting TT'd back in 2021. If you're after three 3H units on the banner itself, that would be Summer Hilda's banner back in June 2021 which was all 3H.
There was the Shezs and a Catherine duo in a 2023 summer banner but you probably won't count that because the Shezs are lords.
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the popular vote won vg
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>>537545951
>Umm... I'm going to assume you mean two 3H units on the banner and the third gets TT'd. There was Lysithea and Manuela on the winter banner plus Ignatz getting TT'd back in 2021. If you're after three 3H units on the banner itself, that would be Summer Hilda's banner back in June 2021 which was all 3H.
See, I wanna say one of the spring banners did. I think there was a Bernie and Ashe one. And I know that we had the Dorothea and Annette winter banner. But that itself was like 3 years ago.
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>>537545640
>Fallen that year was still the sixth-best-selling banner because it had fucking Rhea on it. By herself. She had to carry GUSTAV.
Considering both her and Ninian's legos flopped I'm willing to believe Lilith sold that banner more than either of them honestly.
>Notice how the only character in the lower half of that chart from 3H was Arval, who was a minor character in a spinoff.
Elimine literally isn't even a character and she still beat him AND Hilda, don't try to "well he flopped but it doesn't REALLY count against Fodlan".
>3H's Legendary outsold every other 8% that year.
Considering it was the MC of a game going up against every other game's sloppy thirds with the exception of Xander this isn't as impressive as it sounds.
>The 75% 3H seasonal outperformed the rest.
Yeah, the one with all three lords, which no one is contesting the popularity of, and another CYL winner.
>Hell, the only time 3H "middled" that year was Rearmed Lif, a banner with an OC nobody likes and that IS put fucking Monica on instead of Female Shez.
The OC no one likes was still a new unit type who still has the best inheritable sword in the game, and Hilda and male Shez aren't exactly Fodlan 3rd stringers.
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Three Houses has never been on a New Years banner. That's mainly because OCs have been holding the New Years banner hostage since Book 2. 22 of the New Years units have been Heroes OCs. And we're guaranteed three more OC units thanks to Book 9.
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>>537547710
>OC+Fatellius spam
Disgusting
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>>537544184
Alear needs to go easier on the tea sandwiches. She’s starting to look like Edelgard.
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>>537547664
>Considering both her and Ninian's legos flopped I'm willing to believe
Wait, what? You think Seiros flopped? What reality are you from?
She was a garbage unit and still was the fourth-best-selling banner of Book 5. Only Fallen, CYL, and Summer Freyja did better!
>Considering it was the MC of a game going up against every other game's sloppy thirds with the exception of Xander this isn't as impressive as it sounds.
If the sloppy thirds of 3H outsell the sloppy thirds of other games, you should be making more 3H units.
Without her Brave, Legendary Femleth was the last Femleth IS gave us. Even Fallen was just a Sothis alt. And it too did amazing.
>The OC no one likes was still a new unit type who still has the best inheritable sword in the game, and Hilda and male Shez aren't exactly Fodlan 3rd stringers.
Okay, so then IS should be making more Shez & Hilda banners, by your logic.
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>>537530969
>cute face and giant tits IRL
>never shows herself in videos even though if she did she’d get 5x her current views
Is Glitter the only FEH tuber with any integrity?
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>>537547710
I ran the numbers a few threads ago.
They've never been on NY, Bridal, or Young.
Only one single Tribe or Ninja unit.
Can never get Valentines again, so 5 is all they get, like most other games.
The number is honestly really low outside of Summer and Christmas. That's all they ever get.
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>>537493383
Lyn, get your boyfriend outta there! They’re gonna dog pile him!
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How possible is it to permanently brick and ruin a character through bad parents?

This possibility alone is gatekeeping me from trying this game.
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>>537549962
It's like Sacred Stones, where there's an infinite grind available. You can buff any unit to max with broken skill combo etc. if you just put in the time.
It was popular because, as long as you liked the characters, you'd be willing to play it whatever way you wanted. This includes both gameplay and shipping.
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>>537550112
But can you make a child completely unusable due to bad pairings?
It's not the idea of a FE game to just overlevel.
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>>537550350
>But can you make a child completely unusable due to bad pairings?
Unusable? No. Again, you can level them up, reclass them, keep the stats, and keep leveling. And you can always reclass them
>It's not the idea of a FE game to just overlevel.
Where have you been for the last decade? Awakening, Fates, Echoes, Houses, and Engage all encourage and are designed around it. Echoes even sold dlc "overclasses" because of how hard you were expected to grind by the devs.
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>>537550620
I indeed was on a cave when it came to FE games starting from the 3DS.
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>>537383002
Can confirm. A certain game, unrelated to this one, had a cast of localizers they built up over the last couple years as dialogue was being written. Apparently the Japanese and Chinese localizer got together and built a translation tool which basically eliminated their own jobs - at least in theory. Word is that the director of this studio liked the result so much that a restructure is underway. Their jobs are likely going from translate the game to make the tool work for every language so the whole team can be let go.
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>>537550698
All of the previous games now have an internal level for units. So like even if you promoted at 20 and got a unit to 5 in their promotion class, the game considers them "level 25." This slows exp gain, but their stats remain the same. The games also allow you to use things like Second Seals or their equivalents to reclass to an on-level or lower class, so you effectively have no level cap or max number of promotions.
The only time this isn't really feasible is Fates Conquest, but even that sold dlc specifically to allow you to do it.
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The real thing FEH is suffering from is a lack of new characters to add. And I mean characters people actually like. 85% of Engage's cast being a total dud has been disastrous for this game. And the few that did have moderate followings have been overused to death.
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>>537553692
3H was an outlier. Its not normal to have that many hyper popular characters.
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>>537550350
>But can you make a child completely unusable due to bad pairings?
Actually yes. Not pairing Chrom with any one of his options would result in him marrying a random village maiden. It's bad because Lucina doesn't inherit any classes, skills, or growth rates from her. But you have to go out of your way to screw over Chrom by marrying off all his other options beforehand and during the Gangrel chapter, keep him separated from Olivia so he doesn't build any support points with her. Otherwise the game will default to Olivia.
For the rest of the child units, I think you should be asking yourself if you're going to use any of the child units seriously. If say you just want Laurent to be a magic unit, you probably shouldn't pair Miriel with someone like Vaike. She should instead be paired with Ricken, Libra, or Henry.
And Robin will make any child unit good. Any attempt to make them bad would be out of some weird self-imposed challenge (you're better just not using said child unit). Same with Morgan. She's always OP.
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>>537553692
>85% of Engage's cast being a total dud
That's understating it. Diamant was their most popular guy, and he's like the worst performing banner ever.
Either you're Ivy, and Emblem, or nobody cares.
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>>537554738
>tfw pair Robin with Severa
>Morgan comes out like the second-most-optimal she could be
Good girl.
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RotomKINO getting red pilled on the hooters Lucina menace
https://x.com/rotomdocs/status/1962159180468695390?s=46&t=OJQG5PY2tf66izJZB7qIQQ



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