Previous: >>537031071NEWS:>Persona 3 Reload announced for Nintendo Switch 2 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vgpmt-54Rjg>Persona 4 Revival - https://p4re.jp/ - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FwQEEuPhdRsGUIDES | ART, MUSIC, ETC. | STAGE PLAYS | PERSONA ISO | PERSONA CONCERTShttps://docs.google.com/document/d/1xz0BdycMMVjWNDQ5TT1tbBZX25NqhK9a1mpsNDpq7gA/edit?usp=sharing>New and improved Birthday Charthttps://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1aJmZvNgBOoA0LQNUWQPVNUnzgZzK0IoII_X-szdkAcc/edit?usp=sharing/pg/ OC:>Draw Corner archivehttps://mega.nz/folder/9bhhiYRL#NCdz7s5xuXn_jIchU3KdcAAnti Spammer Tech:>https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/thread/464485803/#464508465#>https://rentry_co/5sbcoavo
G O R OORO
We love our marmalade muffin don't we folks
Why did she do it?
Claiming this merchandised model.Best model.Most compassionate.I'm so proud of Ann. I love her.
>>537314251Wife
Ghosting Ai back after she replied to my messages after three whole days.
>>537314652I'm proud of you for loving Ann.
Which Persona guy uses the DENNIS system?
>>537314562sidehoe goddess is peak power fantasy
>>537315402Door
Fuuka is the type of girl that I would've hit it off really well with but feet too embarrassed about my relationship with her then proceed to break things off suddenly without saying anything like a gigantic coward.
>>537315630>feetFelt*Little Freudian slip there...
are the persona animes good
>>537315221Thanks fren.
>>537315402The what
>>537315984no
>>537316138The DENNIS system https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bg5ZrkaGlFA
My plush keychains arrived but they're too big for my car keys...
4 and I wait for Revival 1 2 3 5 6 7 8 9 0 and I become a meat crayon on the highway
>>537316880put them on your dashboard
>>537316880Nuis aren't really meant to be keychains. Just treat them as normal plushes.
>>537316880put them on your backpack like a true autist
odds and I love Futabaevens and I love Futaba
>>537316881>>537317530odds I kill this stupid NEETevens I send her a dick piccall it
>>537315984the p4 one has some funny moments
>>537318726god I wish that were me
>>537318726Futaba trying to figure out how to use a Persona in reality
Noot.
>>537319186
>>537315402https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x9EL9ZBCsSM
>>537320492>I'm not going to hurt these women
he has such nice legs...
>>537319735agp
sophia kawaii
>>537314251>>537314850hat off
>>537327162
>>537327162How about a different hat?
But I thought we hate Marie.
>>537315402Me.
>>537329668marie is going to be popular again since revivaltrannies will need a way to set themselves apart from the goldentrannies.
>>537329847now that real emo girls have died out people are gonna get hit by nostalgia
Threadly orbs
>>537330263I miss the scenekari/gothsuru arc of /pg/
>>537329668We love Marie here.
>>537330263my elder emo heart cant take italso ive always loved marie
>>537330884Here
>>537331174scenekari looks like my girlfriend from when i was in high school. she looks like she wants to listen to brokencyde and blood on the dance floor..
Almost there...
will revival keep the scene where you can put yogurt on your wiener and convince nanako to lick it, but only on days where dojima isn't home?
bros...
>>537330950>Waits outside of your house for you to get home from school>Forces mystery valentines candy into your hand>Candy is moving and melts quickly??>Tells you to hurry up and eat it>Eat the candy>Calls you stupid for actually eating itShe's perfect
>>537329847That’s a BIG cope lmao
SATRIAKAL JI GUD MAARNING
>>537332468Could be BIGGER…
>saw Alice ass picture while cleaning my downloads folderDamn she gets me fucking feral every time...
>>537335060post it
everyone talks about how joker is a masochist for goro and cries over him.but no one talks about how joker can't focus on anything if he doesn't have morgana with him.all he thinks about is morgana at this point.why did he leave? who's he with? how'd he meet her? he always used to watch over me... i can't do anything without him...
Elly
>>537319735Weird perspective.
Makoto!
>>537337743Nicely Elly'd.>>537338057Nicely Koto'd.
>maruki: even if i knew everything about the human heart i don't think i could completely remove trauma>joker: so give up.>maruki:yeah, that would probably be easier but i've never been great at giving up when i shouldi like how saying he should give up gives points and i also like how maruki also shows his hipocrisy here with saying he doesn't want to give up but that's the advice he would give others.
>justine and caroline merch is stupid expensive>lavenza gets fucking nothingCORRECTION IS REQUIRED
>>537331174I need more scenekari...
>>537069287Deliverin', sorry it took so long, busywork sprang up. I added Ichinose cause the sky was too boring with just Yoshizawa, and I never get a chance to use her for stuff much.
>>537343848hell yeah man, thanks for doing my request. including itchy nose was a good idea too.
Bibbitty bobbitty booThe mouse went up the shoe
>>537341543For me, its gothsuru
gothtaba
L.E.
give p6 protag a gunblade like squall and pinocchio
>>537345464Elly my beloved
>>537345513Real life gunblades do exist, during the civil war-ww1 era bayonets were vital for rifles since it made them into better spears when in close combat. Japanese style gunblades in media are based on the idea of the gun being secondary to the blade which is something more 1500s due to Pistol sword's being more common, there were some in the 1800s for prison guards. The reason Japan loves them is in WW2 there was a Nambu that had a gunblade variant and it has many myths behind it since it's a fucking katana attached to a pistol.
/pgoro/ bros...
>>537346225those gossipy whores wouldnt know popularity if it gave them a prostate orgasm
>>537345421>gothtabaWhat about Goth Ann?
>>537346417this but the actual goth from all the way back 200 AD
And she spoke words that would melt in your hands And she spoke words of wisdom
>>537319313She's so sweet...
i like how sae's confidant only starts after telling her makoto joined the pts.sae has to start believing joker at this point because it lines up with her noticing makoto bringing up the pt a lot during the kaneshiro arc.and also because if it's true that makoto joined the pts then makoto could end up in trouble if sae doesn't catch the true culprit.
>>537332468Some big tits would've made her actually tolerable
>>537347501two whore shitmire club
ONCE AGAIN here to remind you that this general far exceeds others and that you should be grateful your thread is almost entirely waifu and video games focused, not schizo drama focusedPraise MariePraise ChiePraise Naoto
>>537330950>>537332259Luv luv luv that Mariko
>>537352081Positive thinking
>>537352081Shant be praising non canon sluts
>>537350256She has big titsShe’s bigger than any of the IT except naoto, and you can’t even see naoto’s 99% of the time
>>537352442I praise all short hair Persona girls specifically
>>537332468>BIG MarieGood GOD
It's over than toesI jave the jigh ground
right after the siu director talks to shido about his plan to defeat the phantom thieves goro's confidant event to play gun about unlocks.that's the event where he first alludes to how he'll shoot joker with "i need all the practice i can get if i'm going to take you out."he only makes that remark after it's been decided he has to kill joker.and the first thing he wants to do with joker after this has been decided is to practice to kill him.he's also unavailable after this for a while. unavailable until the public turns on him after medjed gets taken down. then he gets sad and invites joker to the bath house.he avoids joker after the initial hangout event where he knows he has to kill him. but that feeling of being unwanted can still spur him to want to hang out with someone it seems.
>>537347501Since I can't ever kiss Coat pussy, there's no point in life.
>>537314504>>537314562So based.....I can't wait for her Revival
>>537352723How do you psy op niggers do itDo you guys get to see the IPs that jump into the threads
should the detective character and the black mask character have been separate?i remember it being a common criticism that the most prominent character who criticized the phantom thieves ended up being a hypocrite and none of his criticisms of them ended up mattering.but i'd say a criticism of the phantom thieves still does exist in the background. they enable people to be slothful. the criticism is more so how society falls back on someone else to fix their problems for them.goro's criticism of how the phantom thieves take justice into their own hands never mattered and all it was was entertainment for the public and also a means to deflect the blame of the psychotic breakdowms and mental shutdowns onto the phantom thieves.
>>537354293It's almost like P5 has a bad story
>>537354438No, I don't think so.
>>537354252Pretty sure a few can though I do not fully understand it myself
https://strawpoll.com/XOgOVm5Lan3/14 more days left.
Sweet dreams like strawberries.Night Personababs.
>>537354816>im the only one to vote for lisadamn...
>>537355641The curse of being an oldsona fan
>>537354494Yeah man, it's a Marvel comic book, it's Featherman. Not serious writingIt's hard carried by well realized character interactions and art design/inspirations, but the actual story and events of the game are entirely silly and far fetchedIt doesn't have any serious plotline to follow, it's like a cartoon. Each episode tackles various themes (almost all of them are anti-patriarchal statements, controlling others is bad, corrupt/unjust law is bad, corrupt men in power twirl mustaches while they abuse women and orphans)"Satan shoots God in le face to save the world" is the most on the nose you can be. P4 was better
>>537356782No man. Everything before Shido's palace was to lul you into thinking that. And then theology and gnostism came out of nowhere like in SMT 4 to remind you you're a fucking retard.
Is there a valid reason as to why these games don't allow you to save unless you're at your home? With how much dialog and other things are in this game, you're not always going to get back to the save area without basically trying to skip through what everyone is saying
>>537357320first time playing a Jay Are /PG/?
>>537356984Yeah dude, and 'Sophia' being an AI automaton waifu is so intelligent bro, gnosticism is hecking DEEP, I love KABBALAH!I'm just not really fond of Persona 5's story at all'Reach out to the truth' was a way better theme for a story. Seeking the 'myriad truths' to cut through the fog of corruption and deception10/10 themes that actually link up to the storylines in meaningful ways and their abilities with how they integrate their shadows to unlock their PersonaPersona 5 is just "throw off your oppressor" over and over and over again and it's just weak. Rebellion as a theme only works for half of a story.
I'm SPIRITUAL RICK !!!!!! & A Wubbulous fuck you buddy
>>537357612Afraid not. I need to fuck Sophie in her pussy. So I'm done having this.
>>537357320Is your mommy calling you for dinner?
https://web.archive.org/web/20120104044117/http://persona.atlusnet.jp/index.html
>2012im not clicking that link thats when the world ended
>>537358771What song is that? From Persona 1?
>>537359370must be the psp version
Anyone got that Naoto image where her tits are bursting out and the main character is saying "the truth..."
I love her bros
Persona 6 OP https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W14aWLCkacU
P4R OPhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sWnSf5LAyuQ
FF9 osthttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2z3RM2uUWB0
>>537365737Not quite.
>>537365916strong gfs...
https://youtu.be/ZslfT01733A?si=WabB3RSEbM81xAGM
>>537366112Holy fucking based. I love my wives.
I’m going to be honest, I am trying to play through Tadashi’s three part bonus movie/mission in P2 IS and its the most boring shit ever.
>>537369578
>>537369690Literally me
>>537369690Based
>>537369813Did you masturbate to the rape one on exhentai back in the day?
>>537369690>tomorrow is /fatsona/ day already
>>537369690i kneel
Are there any massive Persona 5 Royal overhaul mods?I've already beaten this shit on PS4, but I'm kinda interested in the jewble bundle deal
>>537369690What was Maya thinking at that moment?
>>537371147yeah there's a series of mods that work together to turn every female character fat, including party members, confidants, most npcs, and female personas - complete with 3 different sizes of models and sprites (complete with costumes), altered dialogue, and animations.
>>537369690Holy based, as they say.
>>537371980someone needs to make a side mod to go with that where they get fatter the more you do their confidant.
>>537372430I think you can manually do it just by adjusting which size you're using, but yeah that'd be cool
'suru
>>537352535Want to be close
>>537374272Cutesuru
>>537371980I don't want coomer shit, I want actual OVERHAULS Like, something like a demon expansion mod like what SMT5 has or a rebalance modI'm way too stingy to burn $10 on a game that I've already pirated before
Memories of Twitter back when it was alive
>>537372093>>537374272>>537374547bed breaking sex with Persona 3 women
>>537376226Bed breaking sex with my Fuuka wife and our Persona 3 women concubines
>>537376571Yukari concubine slaveMitsuru mommy dommyFuuka lovely timid wifeAigis free use fleshlight
>>537376783And Liz, Toriumi, Chihiro, Yuko, Saori, Metis, Rio...
Evil Hidetoshi
>>537377096List getting a little long, out of those I think I'll take Chihiro because she's so wonderful
>>537378587holy forehead
>>537378757It's almost like you've never, ever, ever kissed a girl beforeDon't talk shit about girls foreheads
>>537378587If I had to cut it down to one non-SEES girl I'd go with Toriumi myself>>537378757The Church of the Holy Forehead, blessed by Haru the Martyr (who bares her forehead proudly unlike Tae and Futaba and Chihaya)
>>537314251So I've played p5 a couple of centuries ago and now with humble I got Royal and I"m thinking of playing it. First time around I've romanced teacher, who should I romance now? Doctor, journalist or someone else? Please help me decide!
>>537379994Follow your heartHaru
There's a dire lack of Persona in this General.
>>537378878Foreheads are only cute if they're naturally visible, I have no idea why women think slicked back ponytails are remotely attractive
>>537379994Foom
>>537379994Mona
>>537379994OH YEAH
>>537380586Cute pussy.
>>537378484I unironically thought he himself was the culprit the first time I played Fes
>>537381107Never doubt an Emperor
https://youtu.be/8hgaxI3JRgg?si=bZ2Dj8dV3Xjk9V4c&t=392
socializing with peers...
>>537381107It was a false flag to invade Cigaristan
>>537382417President Mutatsu will hear of this
Breaking bad with Ichinose
Breaking bed with Lavenza
>>537383548Breaking beds with Ichinose
>>537383758how many per month?
>>537383864217it gets expensive
>>537383956her paycheck is fat thank God
>>537383864The Mattress Firm needs a weekly resupply.
>>537379994Tae, easily
What do you guys think of this?https://youtu.be/kgwLkns0_8U?si=BXZ3NbCxklnHtq6J
>>537369578Saying that says more about your non-ability to read text than anything else.
Niijima butts
>>537371147i like the "early party members mod" and there's one that adds a lot more new personas but it also fucks up some enemies.i found a chromozon (lvl 30ish) but when i recruited it i got yakumo from smtv (lvl 50ish).
>>537384402Pretty good. I like how effortlessly it comes to mustachio, the harpsicord sounds so much cleaner with better grace. They are like guitarists, one of them the junior trying to impress the senior but failing to show him anything he hasn't already mastered.A gentlemanly duel, if I've ever heard one.
>>537379994romance everyone
>>537385225Thank you. You're already better than anyone ever was.
>>537379994Everyone and Ohya.
>>537385337Sumi poster, I wish you well. Keep your chin up. Just try not to spam too many images okay?
>>537385474Yes I will.
'nak on 'eck
what is something that you wish was a mod for any persona game?
>>537385836Custom difficulty with thousands of different things to tweak
>>537358771why are butterflies green
>>537385792>>537385916Nanako tongue in cheek romance mod with a kiss.
Girls can cook
>>537385916>thousands of different thingshow many things would you need to tweak?
>>537385960I'd let her fed me if you get what I mean
>>537385972More so having the options to change how the gameplay works to some sort of degree. For Reload, I would like to disable theurgies. Change HP/MP scaling for spells. Enable/disable party member passives. How much damage skills do for players/enemies. What P4G has but expanded upon. I was exaggerating with "thousands", but I would like the options for more control even if it disables achievements,
Dykesuru
>>537386337Short hair looks good on girls.
>>537383705Which Persona attendant would accidentally cast Megidolaon while orgasming?
The main thing I ever thought is that Naoto, wanted to sleep by Yu one night. But he just let her come in. He's not someone to say no to anyone,
>>537385920P6 foreshadowing
>>537386515What in the hell are you on about?
the "mustache twirling villians" fit p5 because it's a picaresque comic book world.
I want to feel each and every INCH of Akechi!!
Androgyny is hot.
>>537386830You never wrote or posted about Sumi. But I thought about Naoto, and something to write about since September 2023.
>>537386973True. Who is the most andrognious of the persona girls/boys?
>>537386973Always was, but only the actual hot onesNo fatties
>>537386949me too, anon
>>537387159F U C K LOOK AT THAT
>>537387031
>>537387319I M A G I N E
who's the most androgynous anon here on /pg/? pretty sure its me
>Nanako dungeon, second floor>Almost done, try to fight red shadow>Another one gets behind me so I beat that group and then the other one shows up in the same battle >Almost finishing>Enemy does last resort>I die and lose everything This game really does just fucking hate me doesn't it, LR is such a retarded move who had this moronic idea
>>537387159so the devs did this on purpose, right? it couldn't have been an accident. meaning some of them got really horny for him...
>>537387431proof?
>>537387547I look like Yuko but male
>>537387795Hot
>>537387795p3 yuko?
>>537387445you don't have anything with endure?
>>537387862Based>>537387928Yes
the devs probably made the bm goro scene how it is on purpose too. but also probably to avoid showing his head turning from the front because it warps his helmet.
Rise and Kanji's love attempt.https://youtu.be/aKEiLZdPO10?si=TpqjWgKk3RoSXAe2
>>537387795Photo?
>>537386985Damn, it's already been two years, huh?Anyway, Naoto is rather keenly aware of social faux pas from the perspective of one that has read about it rather than experienced it, which means she likely wouldn't try to do so on a whim without a really good reason.Couple that with her characterization of Yu as one of her old daring detective heroes who are also notorious womanizers, then you're left with a situation where Yu wouldn't say no, but Naoto would never ask to begin with, especially if it's an entirely non-sexual night.Cute idea, though.
>>537387445Dude, you have Naoto at this point. Have her bring Hell.
>>537388605haven't taken a proper one in years
>>537388541Rise/Kanji is more popular than you would think. I have a feeling Revival will push them more.
>>537388794is this a "i look like joker from p5" situation?
>>537388541yup that reeks of 2000s
>>537388893But I really do.
>>537388893people actually mistake me for a girl often especially now that I have grown my hair
>>537389024i find it really hard to believe you look like a chibi
>>537389106Photo?
>Indian thinks he's JokerNah you're Scammer
>>537388207The hell's endure?>>537388756I saw from a tier list that Naoto and Yosuke are weak party members so I won't use them, I exclusively use Teddie/Kanji/Chie now, and plan to until the end of the game
>>537389024Jomka is way way taller than me to be honest desu
>>537389106lmao nice>>537389189passive skill. lets you endure 1 fatal attack with 1 hp left once per battle
>>537389189>I saw from a tier listI'm gonna fucking vomit. You should be ashamed of yourself.
>>537389189>He gets his opinions from some retard's tierlistNevermind, don't use Naoto, you'd lack the brains to make her cracked.
>>537389354vanilla or golden naoto?she's not even that good if it's vanilla.
>>537389354I knew you'd be there for that one, Noot poster
>>537388928It was divided between Linkin Park, Audioslave, Syndrome of a down, and then Pop in 2007.
noot is OP
Twilight Corridor is the Fade of p5. Stop fucking wasting my time, holy shit.
what do guys think when they see characters like naoto and sae who have insecurities about being women in male dominated fields?does it feel stupid or understandable for you?
>>537388541>3OH!3Holy crap, been a long time.
>>537388847if we are posting delusional takes, i want revival to add some yosuke x chie crumbs
>>537389653Can't relate, I'd have to be born like 60 years ago.
>>537389463Of course I'd be there, he was responding to me.>>537389441Naoto is great in Heaven, mid in Magatsu, and the arbiter of life and death after that. She's worth keep on the front lines from the time you get her on, and that's in both vanilla and golden.The only downside to not benching Naoto in Golden is that you'll miss out on her doing a fucking drive-by.
>>537389465There is a lot of sythpop influence
>>537389735Based, Q2 gives them a little bit of content too. There was some Rise/Kanji comics on tiktok a while ago. Before Golden's PC port there was none of that and only a few fanarts from japan close to the original release.
>>537389802were there lots of enemies weak to light/dark after magatsu?
>>537390082More than half the dungeon.
>Rise/Kanji
>>537390106i'll keep that in mind next time i play then
i need to mating press
>>537390150>Cuts out the part where he acts like a man and explains what's going on>She suddenly thinks its cool
All I care about is YuHana
>>537390413Silence, Fujo.
>>537390413I wish I could have a best friend like him.
>>537389751i do kinda feel like it doesn't make much sense from the perspective of living today in the u.s.a. but it apparently makes more sense in japan or at least did when the games were made. but even japan is changing so there will probably be fewer characters like them. i don't think that's necessarily a bad thing though. they'll just find different more universal problems to have a character be insecure about.
>>537390546You can't stop me.
>>537390567I miss all of my best male friends from high school.
>>537390801All my best friends were chicks.
>>537390801Me too. I've call them throughout the years and thankfully they aren't cucked at all.
>>537385960Any lewds?
>>537391019https://files.catbox.moe/2dgsdo.png
>>537389653First of all Naoto >>>>>>>>> SaeBut to address the question, in reality most all young men have grown up in a world completely shrouded by the concepts of gender equality. So, the idea that "a woman can't be XYZ" is completely farcical and backwards to most, especially when it comes to a fictional story.With our Naoto though, there is depth there in her struggle to face herself. Because it's not that there's some evil man who's oppressing her and telling her she can't be a detective because of her gender. It's her own insecurity over gender, that's born from her inspirations not looking like her, her forefathers and the great detectives in the novels all being male, that causes her to believe what she believed. Sae mirrors the story but hers is far more heavy handed and cartoonish. She is literally the only good cop in the game, she's openly oppressed and her authority undermined by wicked men in power all because of her gender and 'outsider' status.Women holding positions of power is still controversial, yes. We can't pretend that it's not. The post-modern world has seen the "gender binary" hijacked by insidious corporate interests that want to turn women into men and men into women for profit. This has caused a pullback from many young people from the liberal idea of gender equality they were instructed with. Many believe that perhaps this is just a corporate, profit driven ideal that has wiggled its way into culture and the sexual marketplace, hyper inflating the value of women in the workforce, destabilizing the creation of families through at-will divorce and on demand contraceptives.Many of these things are natural consequences of 'modernity' sure, but others are being specifically enforced by a system. That system wants more women in control of the levers of power, not at home with their family, because those same women are then easier to manipulate and will address less problems than a man in the same position.
>>537391359i want to fuck them
Yukari.
>>537391929
>>537391457So you believe Naoto's perception of the police being a male-dominated field was just in her head? Part of the reason she was cross-dressing after all was to "not give them another reason to look down on me" on top of her youth. Law enforcement being a boy's club is practically universal, so it's not much of a stretch to say that we didn't need to see it happen to get the point. But of that issue, we hear of it once from her and never again.In Sae's case, we hear a lot more of her whining than actually seeing any latent sexism, which makes it seem more imagined than real.
Feel like crying bros.
>>537392037P5 implies more than shows and Sae is one of them, since she gets into law at age fucking 12 and had other reasons to be discriminated against. Sae isn't a commentary about herself and more a commentary about Japan's law system.
>>537356782A few things:Half the villains in P5 are based on real people and events, so saying that they're farfetched is silly. You can just say you didn't like them, but they happened. I agree that there are some parts that are unrealistic and silly, but the plotlines themselves aren't one of them.As for the themes, P5 does a better job at fleshing them out and exploring deeper meaning and counterpoints. Sure, helping people out is fine, but what happens when they then become dependent on you to continue helping them? If freedom is so good, why do people want to be controlled, even if they know they're being controlled by a bad person? Can ANYONE be trusted with this amount of power, even if they have good intentions?Some interesting and obvious counterpoints to P4 themes that could have easily been addressed, but weren't:Is it always worthwhile to pursue the truth? Are there some things that you are better off not knowing, due to the difficulty of learning them or the consequences of finding out? What if there are things we can never know? Are social bonds always good? Can social bonds mislead us, hurt us, or take us further away from the truth? Can we ever really know the truth, or is truth-seeking just an endless march forward to an unreachable ideal?
>>537391457>hyper inflating the value of women in the workforceI recently learned about this entire genre of "influencers" posting about their corpo jobs where they sit in a cubicle and copy paste a few emails a day to earn upwards of $80Kalso yes most of them are on therepy
>>537392230How does it feel to be chatGPT, or have always been that way? You belong sucking the shit in Sanfagsicko as a homeless person.
Sae is the real villain in P5.
>>537389354Jesus Christ if you guys love Naoto so much then at least tell me what I need to do to make her opCan you really blame me? This is the first persona game I ever played in my life
>>537392559Give her testosterone
>>537392559Her instakill spells with the boosts do stack even if they say they don't, instakills in persona sucks anyways outside of the protag in FES to counter the 2 hits needed to get an instakill going. She gets mind charge and some other heavy spells when taking her out to the bath house which is much stronger
>>537391359more?
>>537392184Yes, but without careful approach, characters being used as symbolic representations of broader social issues leaves them and their story lacking. Regardless of whether you're trying to say something more through a character or not, everything you say has to go through that character, which in this case comes off as more whiny than the writers intended because they wanted to staple a series of large issues to a character that doesn't follow them through and gets little time for real development.>>537392559Not be a retard that gets your opinions from reddit.Also just stack instakills with boosts, prioritize individual kill spells if you don't know what you're doing, add instakill boosts/amps, and stock the fuck up on SP consumables. Then have her rain death on the enemy.
>>537392882https://files.catbox.moe/wdtxdm.png
>>537393030one more?
>>537393085Finish jerking off first
God I hate dykes so much its unreal
>>537393157I don't have the time for a shower.
>>537392037What I'm saying is that Naoto's perception isn't what matters, she is a good detective. Nobody in a position of authority ever really questions her capability in the entire story. They judge her appearance and age, sure. But when does anyone tell her that she can't be a detective as a woman? I don't remember that happening. That was a big part of the story, the fact that nobody actually ever comes up to Naoto and tells her "you're a girl, you can't be a detective".Compare that to Sae, who is introduced in the first few minutes of Persona 5 as a female detective who is an outsider to the "boys club" that you just mentioned. But it's been years since this stuff was normalized.....Detective Olivia Benson had been on TV in America for what, 15 years at that point? Female judges in court, female cops on the street, female lawyers working cases. All of that has long been totally normalized. It's completely cartoonish to have the only female cop in the entire game be blatantly treated with sexism and disrespect during her own introduction scene. It's heavy handed.>>537392230It's silly and far fetched that Masayoshi Shido was the person who Joker stopped from sexually assaulting the woman at the beginning.It's a complete cartoon contrivance, and it's another example among many of how heavy handed Persona 5's narrative and worldbuilding is.Every single episode of the story feels like another contrivance that is almost always centered around "men are bad, women are good".The arcs in Persona 5 lack the subtlety or nuance of any single character arc in Persona 4 in my opinion
Whomst is this girl?
>>537393483Looks like apple girl.
>>537393460>the fact that nobody actually ever comes up to Naoto and tells her "you're a girl, you can't be a detective"Probably had something to do with her being in disguise during her entire cooperation with the police.>as a female detectiveShe's a public prosecutor.I get what you're saying, but at least get those right.
people seethed about Angel's hama in Nocturne so much that they fucked over all instakill skills in every release afterwards because of it
>>537393524but she studies at Yasogami...
stole her shoes
>>537393807AU.
>>537393460>It's silly and far fetched that Masayoshi Shido was the person who Joker stopped from sexually assaulting the woman at the beginning.>It's a complete cartoon contrivance, and it's another example among many of how heavy handed Persona 5's narrative and worldbuilding is.Agreed.>Every single episode of the story feels like another contrivance that is almost always centered around "men are bad, women are good".I think this is more that all the villains are men while the main party is mixed. I'm not really seeing the sexism angle. The way I see it, most of the people in power are men (and this is realistic and not a bad thing), so a story about exploring the corruption in places of power will necessarily be about bad men.>The arcs in Persona 5 lack the subtlety or nuance of any single character arc in Persona 4 in my opinionI kind of see where you're coming from. They don't go deep into the motivations behind the villains because ultimately they are just doing what they do out of sociopathy or desire for power. P4 spends more time exploring the "villains" because each shadow you defeat ultimately reveals information about your next party member. It doesn't have to spend time developing both a protagonist and antagonist, they're the same person.
>>537393934and she is 6'11
>>537394034I'm listening
I wish someone made an AMV with Yoker in Strikers like they did with DMChttps://youtu.be/hTDH_SxVM-Y?si=_cDjzX_GiWp_lZ3R
what do you guys think when you see characters like goro who has a very specific backstory and motivation heavily rooted in japanese social dynamics?or i suppose for some his desire to be liked is enough to be relatable.but also does a character having an unrelatable/relatable insecurity and/or backstory affect how you see them?>>537391457>naoto/saeyes, you explain the differences well.i wouldn't say sae is the only good cop though. she was on the path to become just as bad as everyone else until joker convinces her to trust him and ends up bringing her back to her senses.i kinda get the feeling it's meant to contrast with how makoto interacts with the phantom thieves as well. with sae's experiences representing an old outdated system to be annoyed with and makoto's experiences with the phantom thieves representing a newer system where nobody gives a fuck about superficial aspects of someone else and makoto gets respected on skills alone.i also wonder if makoto "gets" what sae is even talking about when she complains to makoto about her problems. makoto studied a lot because she was told she had to to be respected but i'm not sure she ever experienced the reason why sae wanted her to do that. reads like generational trauma.>equality, workforce, etc.nothing is stopping women from holding positions of power today like there was several years ago.there are no laws anyway and it's illegal to discriminate based on gender.but i get that there are and always will be people who don't want women leaders. but do those people have any say in if a woman is allowed to be in a leader? in politics i suppose since that requires people on masse to vote for someone who aligns with their beliefs but i'd still say it's much easier to get into a position of power for women today compared to several years ago like when women couldn't vote on political matters.and maybe they do make us weaker. idk. but i would say our current president is very easy to manipulate as well.
>>537394426I think looking at people and stories as relatable/unrelatable is a very shallow and unhelpful way to analyze them. You can always find similarities or differences, it depends on what you're attuned to. Someone who's very different from you can tell you something you never would have realized, and often someone may not even be able to "relate" to a character similar to them because they can't or won't see the similarities.
Tried Naoto once, she died twice and did no damageShe seems absolutely useless lmao, Kanji would have taken care of it
>>537393483Just someone's OCLike all those girls who hook up with Adachi
>>537393845The other day, I waited on and talked to this customer at work who, I shit you not, looked like an irl version of Kawakami. Same hair style, eyes, build, and everything. She was super cool and nice, too. I almost asked her out, but then sadly spotted a wedding ring on her finger. I can't stop thinking about her.
>>537394426Shooting for "Wow that's so relateable" is the death knell of good storytelling. You want an audience to understand and sympathize with relateability being coincidental rather than the goal.>Wow, she has minor insecurities like me!Congrats, you've wasted a character slot on creating a basic bitch tween girl. How does that help the story at all?
>>537395403Atlus has been doing that recently, Sumire's whole thing was being relatable to girls to be a self insert for the average japanese girl
>>537395263Stop thinking about her, or put your dick in her within one week. Don't ever talk about it again otherwise.
>>537395403I would say she's one of the more relatable P5 characters in how she behaves, but her backstory and lifestyle (Olympic-level athlete that barely attends school and struggles with severe mental illness) are not.
>>537394745>>537395403i kinda agree that judging a character based on how relatable they are is shallow and obviously wouldn't lead to a good analysis. but i do think relatability helps a character seem more endearing. people like what they can understand.could i also ask you guys about characters you find relatable as well as unrelatable characters and what you think of those characters overall?
>>537393689Is she not a part of the Shirogane family of ace detectives? And is she not revealed to be a girl during the events of the story long before she works with Dojima, for example?Nobody tells her she's not allowed to work anymore. The story deliberately omitting something like that seemed important. The point I'm trying to get across is that, while Naoto is very concerned about her gender......not many other people really seem to be. Her merit can speak for itself. That (to me) seemed to be the entire point of the character>a public prosecutorYou're right, my oversight. She's a prosecutor, she doesn't investigate and discover the evidence, she just presents it and wins cases.I guess the extended interrogation throughout the game colored my perception of her role.She even stacks the deck in her favor to win, because well, "that's what the men do" lol>>537393947>all the villains are men while the main party is mixedYeah, because the boss fights against the women were all red herrings. Futaba's mom was her own imagination, she never did anything wrong to Futaba because she's a woman in Persona 5, which means she can only be a victim of a male oppressor. Same with Sae, total red herring. Her shadow only exists because of the "glass ceiling" (men who treat her poorly). You don't even change her heart because she is actually good already.>I'm not really seeing the sexism angleEvery single villain in the game is a raging misogynist. It's pretty blatant what they were trying to say. The big problem here is that there is no variety. Every mustache twirler is the exact same flavor of "rapist who abuses poor orphans". It's just boring. The best stories in the game were actually the Mementos changes of heart because they were personal and emotional without being entirely mustache twirling rapists.>It doesn't have to spend time developing both a protagonist and antagonist, they're the same person.That's why the game is so genius. It's bloody brilliant.
>>537395892>(Olympic-level athlete that barely attends school and struggles with severe mental illness)I wish the execution was as good as the concept
>>537393157make an album of your gens
>>537396350Too lazy
>>537396452Short hair hifumi a cute. It would be nice if there was some sort of archive.
>>537396532You understand a lot of genning is trial and error and there aren't going to be all that many you're happy with
>>537396737I understand.
>>537395972I would say I relate to the P5 group most of all because a lot of them have a story that I feel is similar to mine: a life that is primarily dictated by things external to you, such as your background, world events, where you grew up, natural talents and natural deficiencies. People like Ann, Ryuji, and Yusuke come to mind, and it's why I like the P5 party the most.
>>537396782Maybe later then
>>537396860Thank you.
What's her endgame?
I had 5 fucking gold hands and they all ran away why does this game hate me so fucking much
Do you think the second palace in Sona 5 was inspired by this one?https://youtu.be/rn_YodiJO6k?si=2zLX4Roxae1ag85Z
The Investigation Team is the best party. One of the very best parties in any game I've ever played.They are so perfectly lame, so exceptionally ordinary, there is a divine property to the ying yang at play here.
>>537397014Marriage
>>537397014Door husband.>>537397026Learn almighty skills. It's the only reason you should ever use them in persona.
>>537395990>Every single villain in the game is a raging misogynist.Absolutely wouldn't agree with this. All the villains in the game are misanthropes, and treat men and women poorly. An example of a misogynist villain is the subway guy from P5X: he seems to have no issue with men whatsoever, he purely targets women.
>>537396452The Dragon Queen bears the scars of many battles...
>>537397068Naoto makes my P giant
i don't mind how joker stopped shido at the beginning. i think it's funny that shido gets around so much that he'll just go after random women on the street while drunk lmao. it's his biggest fault and it's ironic that it's what ends him through joker.>>537395990you don't change sae's heart in the metaverse to trick goro.you change her heart in the real world afterwards because you are taking a huge risk that your life depends on and you are just that good at forging bonds. that's joker's power that separates him from goro, who instead breaks bonds and gets others to act as if they don't have any.sae like most people will become a monster because she was abused but you stop it.mishima and goro for instance were also victims who become abusers but you also stop mishima and convince goro to help you in the end.i think the implication is most people who end up as monsters were abused in some way. there are several npcs who want their company to collapse because they are treated poorly there even though they don't have anywhere else to go.and wakaba was probably originally going to be evil to some extent. her concept art tells me she was probably supposed to be shadier and more morally gray at least with how she was experimenting on someone.but she probably will just stay as faultless because atlus is never doing more with her lol.>>537396808i relate to them too. thanks for sharing your thoughts.
>>537397026>>537397161>he isn't using Naoto>he has no Almighty skills>he can't kill Golden Hands (holy kekoli)>he decided his party makeup based on a Reddit postFucking grim fate, who let you out of your container
>>537395990>Is she not a part of the Shirogane family of ace detectives?Yes, who were very much involved in Naoto's charade.>And is she not revealed to be a girl during the events of the story long before she works with DojimaNo.The reveal happens in her dungeon which is after she's removed from the task force. After that she doesn't return to cooperate with them and acts independently with the IT..
>>537397032When did that come out?
Dim Star High?
>>5373975401999.
>>537393460>P4 >subtlety or nuancesnrk
Tae!
Brain hurtyI wann cookie
>>537397442This was the one time I actually tried using Naoto, she had Megidola and I had Megido, most of the battles were strugglesI genuinely still don't get how am I supposed to use this character, the whole instakill thing seems like a gimmick and never works, there doesn't seem to be anything she can do particularly well, her health is minescule, sorry but I just don't get it
was goro's mom a horrible person? he doesn't seem to blame her at all so maybe the game is trying to make her seem faultless. but she still decided to have continuing romantic relations with a man and have unprotected sex despite knowing how inconvenient it would be to have a kid out of wedlock. or maybe she just thought shido would still want her afterwards.and goro seems to also blame himself for his mom's death but it's not stated whether she actually hated him or not. it's just what he thinks.but still, he would have had to have been a burden on her if she couldn't take care of herself anymore out of depression and died.basically, goro probably had a similar mindset to his mom hating him that futaba had for her mom.and goro's mom isn't a precious dindu nuffin. it's likely true to at least some extent that she hated having to take care of him.
>>537398639If you just try harder, I'm sure it'll work.
I used Naoto until the end in OG P4. I am morally above all of you.
>>537397451>very much involved in Naoto's charadeRight, Naoto's charade. They supported her. It was not the Shirogane charade.Once Naoto faced herself, the charade ended. Nobody forced Naoto to behave or present herself in a specific way. That's the point.....Does anyone with the police ever one time come up to her and say "Heyy, you're the Detective Prince! You tricked us! You're really a girl, my daughter goes to your school and told me about you! Women have no place upholding the law!" just so that they can drive home that sexism is bad?No. But something like that would have happened if it were written by a lesser group of people.I'm pretty sure the only thing anyone ever really says to Naoto was about her age, not her sex....which is an absolutely valid concern.What the fuck does a 15 year old know about the hard work of being a detective? Goro should be receiving that same treatment in any real story.But yet he doesn't because he's a bad male, a bad male in Persona 5. The game filled with blatant commentary on sexism. So Akechis allowed to be a junior ace detective at 16, nobody questions him at all. Because he's a sexist male, you get it?! Sexism bad! Also, he's THE SECREEETTTT BAD GUY AND THE SEECCREETTTT SON OF THE VILLAIN! DUN DUN DUNNN! Fucking hell...and then the endless monologue of mustache twirling exposition they share together....off topic.Anyways, always nice to have a Noot conversation. >>537398113It's funny that you snrk at P4 being nuanced, because Yukiko is a subtler and more nuanced character than most anyone in Persona 5 was.If that is what you're getting at anyway.....otherwise, why would you shitpost Persona 4?>>537398639>the whole instakill thing seems like a gimmick and never worksMy oh my.....what is going on in that tiny little brain of yours
>>537398990Why do you think you deserve to take up that much of my screen? Don't ever post again with shit like this.
>>537398929Based. Naoto users are truly supreme. Enlightened, even.>>537399218>STOP DISCUSSING PERSONAStop shitposting.
>>537398990>P4fags actually believe thissnrk
>Mind Charge>Megidolaon>You winIt's free real estate
>>537399369Can you please just tell me how to use Naoto, this is my first time playing Persona and I can't understand anything this thread is saying
>>537399831Do you know of the hotsprings? In the south town wher ethe book store is, Naoto will sometimes be there on her scooter. Spend time thinking of the future for new skills (up to five for each character) to unlock better skills for her. Replace her instakills since they aren't good unless you know what you are doing.Only talk about the past if you want her to remember a skill you removed from her
>>537399680What Persona title or character or story arc would you like to talk about, shitposter>>537399831>Mamudoon>Mudo boost>You win>If they are immune to darkness, Mahamaon, Hama boost, you win>If they are immune to light>Mind Charge>Megidolaon>You winIt's not hard. You press the instant win button, and then you win.Throw in the Vorpal Blade on top. She does one thing, and one thing only. Absolute cheat code devastation.
Fucking finallyF I N A L L YIf they'd just remove one of the 'fuck you' bits - either the timer, or the constant famine spells, or the 'squad wipe in 2 turns or fuck you', it'd be bearable. As it stands it's just an unpleasant slog. Hated it.
>>537399742Satan is STACKED
>>537400219Buttering up Naoto
>>537398990goro was piggybacking off the original hype behind naoto so people already had the cognition that young detectives can work well.and goro was solving unsolvable crimes because he started them giving him more of a reputation.>he's a sexist malewhat? are we still talking about goro? when is he sexist? if anything he's way too forgiving of his mom. but that also makes sense because that was the only person who did care for goro at all.>goro shido expositionit's cheesy but it does show how shido makes goro feel more important than he actually is and explains how they started working together.but i do think it could've been done better.>secret bad guyi actually do think it's set up quite well with how everything he does reflects what the siu director, kobayakawa, and shido are talking about.an incident occurs at the school with kamoshida getting a change of heart and then one of our guys gets the same treatment? what happened to madarame? we need this figured out.kobayakawa, set up a field trip to this tv studio so one of our guys can question shujin students.
>>537398990What you're missing is the point of conflict between her being known as a girl and still working with the police in any capacity just never comes around. Dojima didn't once make mention of the fact that Naoto wasn't a boy and it's possible he didn't even know until after the story. The only reason people outside the IT know is because of the midnight channel which all but Adachi are unaware of.And yes, she does in fact make mention of using the disguise to specifically not be looked down on as a girl by the police force.Fight it again, and I'm going to have to break out the "dude, trust me" card.
>>537400219I mean, I will keep this in mind but she doesn't have any of that yet, do I just use her as deadweight until she learns all that?Also where do you Vorpal Blade? Is that an item or something?
>>537399831(Ma)Mudoon/(Mahamaon) + their boosts and megidolaona lot of enemies are weak to light and dark in heaven + if you get the aoe versions you can pretty much wipe the floor with anything due to how op they are
>>537400737Vorpal blade is a skill.Focus fire Mudo/Hama heavy hitters like the tanks and any enemies weak to it, have the party focus on everything else. She'll get the skills sooner rather than later. If an enemy is weak to it, there's a 95% chance it's dead rather than the usual 30-50%
>>537400737have you not even been playing the fucking game you are supposedly playing?party members LEARN new skills as they level upbut, to answer your question, it's a physical skill
While I'm decompressing from the Okumura boss, one of my other wishes is a little more context on the 'automatic [MOVE] at the beginning of a turn' items. It'd be helpful if it scrolled to an explanation of what the move did
>>537401234That's why game wikis exist
>>537400298that nigga got TITTAAAYYYSSSS>>537400530>the point of conflict between her being known as a girl and still working with the police in any capacity just never comes aroundNor should it. That's my entire point. It didn't happen, because it shouldn't have happened, because the point was that it never actually mattered.Do you think this is going to be changed in Revival? Would it be a better story if she gets called out by a sexist man for faking her gender?Or do you think it's unnecessary, and that her sex shouldn't matter....because that was the original intention of the character?Everyone knows Naoto is a girl at the high school that Naoto goes to in October. She works with Dojima (police) and the IT to rescue Nanako shortly afterwards.Adachi is literally the prime candidate to call Naoto out for being a girl detective........never happens.I think you're clinging to Naoto's own pre-IT delusions about her sex mattering, and you should respect her enough to realize that the insecurity really was in her head.
>>537401371No no yes yes no yes yes
I'm just glad to talk about Naoto
>>537401371Why do you think I asked you at the start of this if you just believed the notions of a sexist environment were in her head?Just say "yes" next time, maybe with a small explanation as to why, and save us both the time.Fucking hell, man.
Imagine how hellish it must be to be the second in command. Some guy turns up from far away and three months later he's fixing everyone's mental issues while banging your childhood friend, and you're calling him Leader.
>>537401697She would have to be tackled in the locker room and remove her pants. Hopefully they don't rape her secretly.
>>537401195Of course I know that, I was worried I would only get these supposedly op Naoto skills way later on while I just arrived in Heaven
>>537401697Put some clothes on
>>537401929You can't fuck Aki or Shinji
>>537401929Yosuke just needed to wait one game to see how to put Leader in his placeBeing Joker feels more like you're a glorified errand boy and everyone else is in charge
>>537401697>>537401748i enjoyed the discussion too. i don't fully agree with everything but it was fun.
>>537401748>the notions of a sexist environmentThose notions did not and do not actually matter whatsoever. Yu teach her that.That's literally the point of the whole character. You can't let insecurity and outside perceptions of what "thing" is determine the perception that you have for yourself when you dream to become "thing". Naoto does not have to dress up as a man to be taken seriously as a detective. That's the entire point.For someone who posts Naoto a lot, your sense of what she represents has maybe....calcified, over time?Tell me what I'm missing here about Naoto.Naotos character is not to critique sexism in the police force or any traditional male work forceAdachi is the sexist police himself, but yet he never once says anything to NaotoYou would think if the sexist environment really made any difference, the literal sexist bad guy would bring it upHer charade ends of her own choice and she faces no consequences or even insults from anyone for being female whatsoeverBecause the sexism in the police force was imaginary, self imposed even though 'sexist' and 'misogynist' police do still exist.Chie becomes a police officer and not one time does she struggle with her identity as a female officerAll of this was very clearly deliberate.>>537403939Once again, always glad to talk Naoto so I hope you don't feel bothered. I'm not trying to be antagonistic. She's one of my favorites too.I think Naoto is really, really neat.
It's like talking to a fucking wall.
Ann Babamaki
Tatsuya and Maya. Two birds with one stone.
>>537404045it doesn't bother me. i said it was fun.anyway, have a nice rest of your day, all
>>537404336Nyarly-sama...
I think I love Makoto.
>>537404765You do, Fuuka
>>537404765Yukari...
>>537404413I finally think the sexist Japanese police force is ready to accept Naoto for who she really is.
>>537404890Stop posting already.
>>537404997I will be posting free camera shots of Naoto in P4R here, so no. I'm afraid I can't do that.
>>537405360Just stop posting block-headed walls of text for a while.
Meine Seele, meine Seele, wo bist Du?
>>537376226Keep your filthy hands off my wife ---->> >>537372093
Tea with Naoto
>>537405470Oh so you're blatantly shitposting now, then?What did I say that pissed you off? I thought the conversation was pretty comfy.
>>537405618I am here again
Since the Council Of Naoto Experts has convened; how long would it take to condition Naoto into collarplay and petplayPeople with expertise on other girls can chime in about their girls as well
>>537406047You're the one wearing the collar
>>537395403you described futaba....
>>537406143The catgirl outfit I make Naoto wear in dungeons says otherwise
Imagine if she was a kitten forever.
>>537406047You puts on the halloween catgirl outfit easily, she has a fetish for being controlled by society with how much she dressed as a boy. A month or two at most.
>>537406263Then kissu would happen every day.
>>537406047IDK about your fetishes, Naoto ain't got anything to do with that, she's wholesomeIt didn't take very long before she grew out of her sherlock phase, I'm sure she'd wear anything for Yu though>>537406207>>537406342It's a turtle neck.
>>537406572Are those turtle ears and whiskers on her headAnd the tail on her buttAnd the fur
>>537406047It'd never happen. Mostly because we'd kill you for trying.>>537405712What about that looks like a shitpost to you? It's a slow burning irritation from your consistent inability to stick to conversational threads and throwing in whataboutisms that while could be discussed would massively derail the discussion and take five times as long. You are beyond irritating to speak to and despite what you might like to convince yourself of, it's not because your logic is just so ironclad that it can't refuted. It's because you're dense, jump from thread to thread when one doesn't work, and cannot for the life of you, understand what another person is trying to tell you.I agreed with you, this entire time. My point from the start though isn't that we don't see sexism from Naoto's perspective because it's not there, just that we didn't have a chance to. Adachi might be chauvinist. but he's also not the type to go out of his way to specifically also make fun of Naoto for having tits when he's hiding who he really is. Even when he's not hiding it, he's already chiding everyone for being kids playing at hero. That wasn't something that needed to be brought up, nor discussed to get the point where we're on the same page, you goon, you autist, you goober.
sigh... naotofags...so anyway whats for dinner ryujibros
The funniest and most infuriating arguments are the ones where two people would agree with each other if not for the semantics of the arguing itself
>>537406991beef bowls bro
>>537405696GASPHow delightful. >>537406732My cat doesn't wear a collar. She rips it off. Always has. Found one in a tree once.Naoto doesn't wear a collar, even with cat ears on.>>537406818Maybe you're the autist and goober here, my friend.....for getting angry at someone who you agreed withYou're calling me dense, you're getting mad about conversation topics.....but you agree with me? Huh?What exactly did I say about Naoto that you don't like? Can you greentext it? Lol. Otherwise you're throwing a tantrum about a harmless conversation my friend. Please relax.
>>537407450i was thinking beef and cheese melt myself
>>537407387That's why I always clarify what exactly someone is talking about before I try to answer. Saves a massive amount of time and misunderstandings.
I'm at the end, days are counting down. Trying to max out the remaining confidants as I can.However.I took the executive decision to bang Makoto instead of adding another star to Haru. I don't know if Haru will make it to 10. This game really gives you the difficult decisions.
>>537407558It saves no time at all. In fact if you ever do that in real life, people will wish you were dead.
>>537407387NO YOU DON'T FUCKING GET IT ITS NOT ABOUT THE SEMANTICS IT'S ABOUT THE TONEI AGREE WITH YOU BUT YOUR TONE IS ALL WRONGHOW CAN YOU AGREE WITH ME LIKE THAT>>537407463This is what I'm talking about. It's like you don't even actually read what was being typed out. I can't even qualify it as a reading comprehension issue because that would imply you're at least looking at what I typed.I'm legitimately concerned you're either high or actually retarded, but you're too eloquent for either of those.
>>537407926What did I say, about NAOTO SHIROGANE, that pissed you off?WHY, are you pissed off at me for saying it?Are you going to tell me? Or are you going to be insulting whenever you claim to agree with me?
>>537407926>HOW CAN YOU AGREE WITH ME LIKE THATZuko...
>tfw no husband (female)
It feels good this cocksucker will never respond while I know everything about him hoping he dies in the most painful way possible. I'll tell them where you live too.
>>537408339What's it like?
>>537408379
>>537408398With a dashing girlhusband you never have to worry about anything.
>>537408630Do they still exist?
>>537408696Shut up you filthy grandma fingerer.
>>537408696i met one a few months back however she was clearly borderline so i skedaddled asap
>>537408789
>>537409081He'd do it again.
>>537408789>grandma fingererBruh.....>>537409081
>>537409249Justin doesn't belong on this Earth. He never did. He should be buried alive in concrete.
>>537408231Let me break this down into the most crayola-crayon warning label reading level possible. If you misinterpret this, then you will not get a response and I shall drive to the nearest church and pray for God to have mercy on you.1) Nowhere in these recent posts did I state the irritation was from a specific comment you made about Naoto.1a) I in fact went out of my way to point out that the source of my irritation was your constant misinterpretation of my posts.1b) In addition to that, your constant jumping from point to point, whataboutism, and bringing in new and unprompted points adds to the irritation of speaking with you.1c) This, listed with above, contributes to a massive waste of everyone's time.2) I agree that Naoto's perception of a sexist work environment could very well have been skewed. This is where the "agreement" comes in.2a) You commented that we never see sexism present in Naoto's story my response was that we never had a chance to see it.2b) This was not an outright refutation despite your following posts treating it as such.2c) Agreement on the central point does not in fact mean I can't think you're irritating to speak with2d) This discussion has been entirely pointless.3) You do read posts.3a) You speak in a manner-of-fact about things that weren't said.3b) You're incredibly insistent about these things that weren't said.3c) You are not owed a defense against things that weren't said.4) My irritation is overstated and I'm simply unwilling too converse with you for prolonged periods of time for reasons disclosed above.There we go, as simple as I can make it. I hope that helps.
>>537409397Uhhhhhhhh Persona related post?Who is Justin? Is that you, Sumire poster? What's going on buddy?
>>537409703Justin is the Ann "bab" and orb poster. I hope he exists in hell after he dies. As the right man hand of Lucifer. That's what he wants.
>>537409860That's cool, take your drama elsewhere please and thanks.
>>537409949No, I don't think I will.
Lol?
>>537409684>3) You don't read posts*I blame the migraine.
>>537397032because of the painting? what am i supposed to be seeing?
We got a 7 20 in progressRequesting air support
>>537397032It was based on this one.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABS-mlep5rY
>>537409949Write the sumi story ya fucking slave.
>>537409860>right man hand
>>537411072He's just a really big SMT fan, okay
>>537411215but that's a left man hand...
>>537411312Walter is his left-hand man
>>537411443oh OK. i get it now. he wants ann anon to be his right man hand. i think...
>>537411312
>>537411443walter
also mika is a woman and is a bitch. so again, not all women in p5 are good people. but she is a smaller case i guess since she doesn't have that much power. she's only a model.sorry, i just remembered mika and had to post this.
>>537412443Based Mika rememberer.
>women>good people
>>537412798adachikek...
>>537411982In my darkest moments, when the weakness of the flesh and weariness of the soul took the reins of my mind, I spotted the devil itself in a darkness no mortal eyes could see. A gangly silhouette took form amidst the formless void and my mind's eye could see a wicked grin spreading through its thin lips. My meager protections of the Lord screamed at me to turn back, to not take the deal that would seal my soul unto damnation. Too true, there may have been another path, but shorn of the light to see it, I found myself unable to resist the allure of the darkness. It spoke no words, nor needed it. Its slender putrid arm reached out of the darkness, to beckon, to absorb and I reached back with my left, making the forbidden pact. Reverberations in the air played fancy at an ephemeral voice speaking the words that would signal my demise. All around, from the emptiness of the air did I hear a resounding "Hoy".
>>537412443mika is sexy though. i want her to ruin my life and to leave scratches all over my neck
>>537412443Also Hifumi's mom and Takase's parents.
>>537412981yeah, and also several other mementos requests.there are actually a lot of terrible women in p5.
>>537404765we love makoto here
>>537413154Even a few of your female allies start off antagonistic toward you. Makoto is trying to expose you and get you arrested, Futaba is threatening to expose you unless you do what she wants, and Chihaya starts off by scamming you.
>>537409684>the source of my irritation was your constant misinterpretation of my postsI see. You're upset and feel misunderstood in some way.My friend.....Why can't you greentext?You see how I chose a line that you wrote directly, to reply to that line specifically?Why can't you do that so people can see what it was they posted that you take umbrage with?What do you think someone misinterpreted about one of your posts? Greentext it. That way, people can better digest what it is you're talking about and you can communicate properly by pointing out the specific lines or ideas that you are trying to reply to.Whenever you agree with someone, you can easily preface your rebuttal of the ideas you don't agree with by saying "I agreed with what you said here and here, but disagree with you here and here". But instead of doing that simple communication of your thoughts.....you went on a big autism tap dance spree about how someone should inherently know what you're thinking without communicating it through the keyboard.I've read all of your posts multiple times now by the way. That's just general respect. I give all posters general respect, and I will continue to give you enough respect to tell you that I think you're alright, if not blatantly autistic, and I don't have a problem talking with you about P4!You know that too, which is why you're getting mad about "misinterpretation" even though I'm being very pleasant towards you.How could I misinterpret your post, if I didn't first read your post?I've asked you direct questions multiple times that you failed to address because you're getting emotional that we aren't communicating telepathically. An 'argument' that didn't exist, entirely in your head. We are actually in agreement, as you've stated. I cannot fathom why anyone would get so frustrated about someone saying something they agree with. I don't give a shit if you think I'm frustrating to deal with. Reply to substance, show respect, be a man.
>>537413218Feel like yucking.
>>537413331yeah. p5 really ISN'T about how "all men are bad and sexist."
>>537413331Ann starts off as weirdly hostile, too. Calling out Joker's lie under her breath on the first day of class as he walks past her desk. What the hell was her problem?
it's a shame atlus made naoto novel non canon stupid long anime hair was kinda funny
>>537407747Never mind, apparently the game goes on, it was not the end.My save files says I'm 120 hours in, holy shit, what's going on...
>>537413474I'm humoring you with a (You) because you put effort into it and I can see hints of gears turning. I could spend the next two hours breaking everything down and beating you over the head with it until it gets through to you, but this isn't really the place for that kind of discussion. So unless you want to take this somewhere else, drop it and move on with your day.
>>537413562Every major villain is a chauvinist male obsessed with power and a distorted desire, they all openly disrespect the women in their lives.Kamoshida, Madarame, Kaneshiro, Okumura, and Shido were all openly womanizing mustache twirling cartoon rapists lacking in depth. One note manifestation of different sins.The major female villains were both red herrings, Futaba's moms abuse was outright imaginary and she was actually a perfect scientist genius who was killed by evil jealous men. Her palace represents wrath (towards men)Sae is not a villain as she does nothing wrong, is forgiven without a fuss, is the only police officer on your side, a perfect genius who is held back by evil men. Her palace represents jealousy (of men)The only major villain you could say isn't a womanizer is Akechi, but even then he's depicted as having groupies, and he deliberately treats them like garbage because he's gay for Joker.Half of all the Mementos quests are just guys that abuse/use/have a fucked up relationship with women.
>>537415034Again, you're failing to consider that these people are simply bad and treat everyone around them poorly, regardless of sex. Really confused about your characterization of several of the characters you mentioned as "womanizing" as well, particularly Madarame, Kaneshiro, and Okumura. Madarame just has a girlfriend and Okumura isn't shown to be in any relationship at all. This really reads like a college liberal arts "if you treat a minority poorly in any way you're problematic" argument.
>>537415034>The only major villain you could say isn't a womanizer is Akechi, but even then he's depicted as having groupies, and he deliberately treats them like garbage because he's gay for Joker.This but with Akihiko.
>>537415034>Futaba's moms abuse was outright imaginary and she was actually a perfect scientist genius who was killed by evil jealous men. Her palace represents wrath (towards men)i disagree on the "towards men" part. also, futaba is wrath because she takes her perceived mom's hatred out on herself.also she wakaba wasn't killed because shido and his conspiracy were jealous of her. she was killed because she refused to help them. goro and shido go over this in their "mustache twirling villain" exposition dump.>Sae is not a villain as she does nothing wrongshe was really close to becoming one. and she took her frustrations out on makoto.>The only major villain you could say isn't a womanizer is Akechi, but even then he's depicted as having groupies, and he deliberately treats them like garbagewhen? the worst he does to them is turn them down and avoid them.>Mementos quests are just guys that abuse/use/have a fucked up relationship with women.and crazy overly possessive girls like the crazy yandere girl who stalks a guy she likes in a hallway at your school. and the girl who abducts cats because she saw a cat get run over.
isnt it implied sae has been doing whatever she can to get a guilty verdict on some miles edgeworth shit? like even beyond the scope of the phantom thieves case
>>537417041it's unclear. however, she did also threaten sojiro with his custody of futaba to try to get information out of him.
Koromaru........we're are leaving
>>537415860>these people are simply bad and treat everyone around them poorly, regardless of sexYes, they are bad people. Obviously they hate You, the male protagonist who is led around by women.The game literally highlights specifically how poorly the villains treat women above all else in order to emotionally control you and your team that is always inevitably made up of women.The main antagonist of the game is introduced by sexually abusing a defenseless woman in the middle of the street and then attempting to ruin your life for trying to protect that woman. He treats everyone poorly when they stand in his way (abusing women)The introductory villain of the game is introduced sexually (and physically) abusing defenseless students to the point a girl attempts suicide. He treats the boys and girls poorly only when they stand in his way (abusing children)The second villain of the game is introduced financially abusing a dead womans self portrait with her child, erasing the child from the painting, defacing the womans work and tarnishing the memory of the womans, oh yeah and he totally killed that woman by the way (abusing women) oh yeah and he groomed her male child into being a master artist as well so he could manipulate him (abusing children) but even at the end of the story, Yusuke still admires Madarame and wants to be his pupil still in Maruki worldThe third villain of the game, you guessed it.......HE'S ABUSING WOMEN AND CHILDREN!And for the fourth villain of the game....ABUSE OF A FEMALE CHILD!The fifth villain of the game......so on...and so forth.All I'm saying is that it's repetitive and bland. It makes every single encounter and question that the game poses to you null and moot from the start. Yes they are evil, no they have nothing good to say, look at this man in his Darth Vader costume ABUSE HIS FEMALE CHILD.It's hokey. It's lame. It's LAZY
Ugh persona is so lazy*changes shadow okumura boss to easy*
>Just played the Corel, Dyne and Gold Saucer segment in the original FFVII>Watch Rebirth's version>Instead of going by the original scene, they turn it into melodramatic shit, turning a suicide into a honorable death.At least Shinji's death was handled way better in Reload even if they used the movie version. I hope Revival stays away from S-E slop and keeps most disturbing scenes intact.
>>537417631is that a speaker on the device on his torso? but i thought he was speaking through those vents near the mouth
>>537418548>P4>disturbing scenesSuch as?
>>537418548
>>537418085I didn't say Persona is lazy, I said Persona 5 villains felt like lazy copy pasted cartoon villains of the week that represent different sins but that they all relate back similar actions; abuse of women and children for cheap emotional baitI didn't say it's bad quality stuff either. I really liked Madarame and Kaneshiro arc and how tied they were to Yusuke and Makotos awakening.I just said it's hokey, lame, and lazy to have so many villains in the same game doing the exact same generically evil things one after another.It's extremely over the top.Oh yeah, and then you get to the Social Links, where you.....help more girls being abused by men....who could have seen that coming.
Spending Halloween eating boo berry with Naoto.Spending Halloween eating count chocula with Marie!
>>537417631>Yusuke still admires Madarame and wants to be his pupil still in Maruki worldthat's more atlus being to lazy to put any effort into Yusuke's section of Maruki's arc and make a new model for Yusuke's mom or Makoto's dad
>>537419207atlus being lazy and that separating the art from the artist bullshit. madarame may be a plagiarist piece of shit but hes was once a skilled painter with much to teach
>>537418862what about the social links where you help women being abused by women, like hifumi or boys being abused by women like shinya
>>537418856Not disturbing but shocking. Mooroka's hanging corpse, Mayano's room at the beginning. Also Namatame's arc with Nanako's death, and Magatsu Inaba dungeon.
>>537411215>>537411659The smt4 redesigns were all fucking awful. So glad they went back to the good designs for everyone (except satan.)
>>537419826who is Mayano
>>537419826im just not seeing it. mayumis room is the metaphysical headspace and mind palace of the average mentally ill individual. how horrifying
>>537420023Maya Amano's non-union Mexican equivalent.
>>537415985Akechi is basically destiny if destiny wasn’t a hobbit.
>>537417631>Kamoshida mistreats Mishima, and you see/talk with male lesser NPCs who also suffered abuse>Madarame mistreats Yusuke, and you see/talk with male less NPCs who also suffered abuse>Kaneshiro's schemes affect male students at your school>Okumura's robots are overwhelmingly men who have suffered his abuse>Shido mistreats Akechi and basically sees the entire world as disposableI'd say Persona 5 actually does a pretty good job of balancing it out, considering you end up with three social links and two male party members who are directly involved with the villain's villainy and are menI'd say if anything your line here>The game literally highlights specifically how poorly the villains treat women above all else in order to emotionally control you and your team that is always inevitably made up of women.Reads more like what you're doing right now, stoking an argument with something that will grab anons' attentions (women) and making an assertion with no real logic behind it ("inevitably", as if I didn't have Yusuke on my team the entire time)In fact I'm pretty sure you're aware of this because you went from "women" to "women AND children" in your second post, which is still pretty lackluster because Persona is at its core about teenagers dealing with antagonistic forces so that dynamic is inevitableIf you really just wanted to say>All I'm saying is that it's repetitive and bland.Then yeah I agree but I think you've ironically built this on a very lazy argument, you can't really avoid relationship dynamics when writing human characters, but what you can do is avoid repeating the details>>537418862Again>Ryuji>Tora>Iwai>Yusuke>Ann (antagonistic Mika)>Sadayo (antagonistic husband-wife pair)>MishimaAll not about men antagonising womenI will say, there is something to be said here about how Persona treats its villains and the concept of "seeing what you want to see", and I wish P5 leaned into that more, or at least as much as P4 sort of did
>>537420023MAYA NO
>>537420312you forgot Hifumi
>>537418085He was the only boss I had to go back and prepare for.I went back to mementos and crafted AOE elemental accessories for the entire team so that many team members could weakness strike the robots
>>537420927Sorry, I was staring at a list of confidant names trying to remember a vague outline of their plots and I drew a blank about Hifumi even though her mother has been mentioned a few timesWas Shinya being bullied by his mom? I don't remember, I'm way too tired for this
>>537420023The sister of Mayayes
Need Marie gf
>>537420927Good.
>>537417631>your team that is always inevitably made up of women.the phantom thieves are mixed. they aren't all women.>The game literally highlights specifically how poorly the villains treat women above all elsemishima and the male students getting abused by kamoshida?yusuke being taken advantage of by madarame?etc.you even mention both these things later in your post.and the point i was making is that the game isn't saying "men are oppressive and women are precious and faultless."and others and i have given examples of women doing bad things earlier but not all in reply to one of your posts:>mika>hifumi's mom>chihaya>futaba>makoto>yandere girl>cat abducter>sae>goro's momi do think the argument is also kinda semantical with "is this misogyny or not?"i think most the main villains display misogyny barring madarame and okumura and sae.but i'd also say it's not their sole characterization.they abuse everyone they have power over and not just women, as the other anon stated.>madaramedoesn't display any specific hatred of women nor see them specifically as beneath him.>okumurai don't even think he's misogynistic. he only treats his daughter badly. she's a bargaining chip to him. we don't know how he used to treat his wife or other women. the way he treats haru isn't even inherently misogynistic. if it was it would be more like "she's beneath me because she's a girl." but he doesn't act that way. he acts like "since she's an okumura she should do whatever it takes to bring in wealth." he does this for the obvious reason of he's obsessed with money because he grew up poor so he couldn't have the things he wanted.also i'm curious what you think of the phantom thieves showing sympathy to goro and saying "that's it... we HAVE to take down shido!" after he sacrifices himself.he was a victim but also an abuser yet they still showed him sympathy. and he wasn't even a woman... so why does goro get that special treatment?
>>537419707Outliers, exceptions. There are 2 "bad" misunderstood women for every 8 horribly evil men, there are 8 perfectly good genius women for every 2 dumb as rocks "good" men.And I get it, you want to depict society and it's darkness. That means sexual abuse, blackmail, abuse of children, it's all on the table. Men are the major players, men are the ones who do this dirty work. I understand all of that. It's all a part of the whole of the story. But what is that whole really? It's a quite one sided tale in P5 compared to the others.I love women, we have to cherish them as they hold the keys to new life. But being told over and over again "treating women badly is the worst thing ever" is not that interesting of a concept across a 100 hour JRPG.Good game, great even. But combine the repetitiveness in the narrative with the exceedingly repetitive gameplay loop and you've got something I think I'd struggle wanting to replay again.The only appeal would be to have a Sae romance mod and just speedrun a NG+
>>537419207no, because yusuke genuinely still admired madarame even after everything because he was a father figure to him.and he learned more about him too. madarame did genuinely care about yusuke at one point.
>>537421541>doesn't display any specific hatred of women nor see them specifically as beneath him.UM AKSHUALLY, doesn't Madarame make a comment about how his security team couldn't even catch a schoolgirl? That's called a misogynistic microaggression.
>P5X floppedIs the Persona IP dead?
>>537388847I like Rise Kanji more than Kanji Naoto (More than Rise Naoto too while we’re being thorough about it)
>>537422197do you have the jp text to back that up? how do i know the eng script didn't change it?
>>537422258I'm still playing it daily though so it didn't flop
>>537422197Didn't Madarame let Yusuke's mother die after abusing her and stealing her livelihood from her?Didn't he then groom that dead womans child into becoming another one of his cash cows?Isn't she the real heart of that entire arc? Sayuri?I don't need a microaggression to tell you Madarame's arc was focused around his abuse of Yusuke's mother and himself as a child
>>537422258P5 fatigue is too strong.
>>537422326Rise/kanji is such a delusional spare pairing its insane. Rise only has eyes for Yu and Naoto/Kanji was pushed hard throughout the spinoffs of 4. Rise has basically no interaction with Kanji beyond making fun of him for having feminine hobbies
>>537396452>Hefumi gets top surgery>No longer allowed to be a main party member, gets replaced with MakotoMany such cases.
The best villain is coincidentally the only one who isn't written around a genius woman being his downfall
>>537423364makoto and futaba helped plan against him to save joker.but what do you like about him?
>>537423364>Entire scheme is concocted by Futaba and Mokoto
>>537423763the phone stuff was futaba. and iirc the plan to use sae's palace was makoto's.
>>537422641I disagree with "focused", more like Sayuri was the starting point where things spiraled fromThe focus is Yusuke and the students he abused, past, present and future, and the rest of the world he was also deceiving, and while you could say Sayuri falls into that pattern somewhat, it's less about her being a woman (or anything about her at all, even) and more with Madarame's own sickness that he didn't realise was there until the situation presented itIf we changed any of the character's genders and nothing else I don't think the narrative would be affected all that much (in this pure hypothetical where developer intent doesn't come into it, because as far as I know nobody's picked the developer's brains on this specific train of thought to know either way)
>>537423578I like that he twirls his mustache at maximum velocity so fast that he completely blows by the women and ignores their existence almost entirely>>537423763You could argue that even he was bested by genius women, Makoto and Futaba are both perfect geniuses and they did rescue Joker from being shot, but I don't think that was Akechi's downfall, he leapfrogged that whole issueHis downfall was his selfish motivation to kill his own father
>>537422849Part of what makes that funny is that Yukiko brings RisexKanji up in PQ, and she's easily the IT member most prone to delusion/insanityMaybe she sees something the world doesn't
He definitely is not on the side of all the perfect genius women in his game
>>537424029the real enemy was single minded tunnel vision the entire time
>"NO MORE OF YOUR PERFECT GENIUS FEMALE PARTY MEMBERS, JOKER!">YOU AND ME, ONE ON ONE, TRICKSTER VERSUS TRICKSTER! IT'S A FIGHT TO THE DEATH!"He should have been the final fight in Royal before disappearing. You gotta love the Kechster, you just gotta!
Goro and Shido were just trying to make their nut.
>>537424029>he completely blows by the women and ignores their existence almost entirelywhat are you talking about? just that he ignored his fangirls?>Makoto and Futaba are both perfect geniusesmakoto's introduction has her fall into kaneshiro's hands because she was being too hot headed for being called useless.futaba couldn't leave her room without others helping her.the point being they aren't perfect.>Akechi's downfall, he leapfrogged that whole issuehe was too prideful to see his own mistakes or think about if he did anything wrong.>kill his own fatheri disagree. he both hated and loved shido. he wanted shido to rely on him and accept him for who he truly was. that's what he really wanted. the public's praise was hollow to him because they "didn't know he was an undesirable child." so that's why shido mattered so much because he's the only one who could've accepted him for being a throwaway bastard child since shido is his dad.but goro also did want revenge. he wanted shido to see him as superior. he likely would've used his bastard status as blackmail against shido to hold power over him while simultaneously getting shido to recognize that shido only got where he was because of goro.
This is just a discussion about Ichinose that's going the long way round before bringing her up, because she's THE P5 woman who did get off too lightly even though they gave a pretty standard reason for her to get away with everything (it's over and nobody would believe her anyway)And that's after the fact that Alice and Mariko get dealt with like male villains despite being comparatively less evil, and Akane's neglect by Zenkichi is just a retread of Nanako and Ryotaro's relationship anyway
i like to think goro adores the attention of his fangirls. why else would he admit to wanting to believe santa is real if not to show his fangirls a touching moment of vulnerability
I don't want anyone to think I dislike perfect genius female waifus though, I certainly doI just don't think the story in Persona 5 was very good, far too cartoonish>>537425428I still haven't played her game. What's the appeal? Redpill me on Itchy nose
>>537424372there are no "perfect" genius women in p5
>>537425835Sae is such a Sims enthusiast that she wears a Simoleon symbol.
>>537425835>I don't want anyone to think I dislike perfect genius female waifus though, I certainly doI do. Geniuses are fine when they're done right. P5 doesn't really do them any favors.
>>537425438But that's all a facade, he has to keep up his image in order to "fit in"He's Patrick Bateman, complete and total psychopath, nothing he does is ever for an earnest reasonAkechi probably
>>537424181>>537422849They’re cute.
>>537426102He should have raped Sae here.
>>537425438everything he does in front of a camera is a publicity stunt and he loves attention despite hating that it means he always has to wear a mask and appear "perfect."but i just took it as a jab against the phantom thieves. "would i like to believe in them? i mean, i'd like to believe in santa claus if i could."
>>537426102god damn auto. Akechi probably listens to the new music that girls listen to just so he can mention it during an interview and keep up his image.Akechi carefully and meticulously crafts his image entirely around who is perceiving himThat's why he has two Personas. He's the trickster foil
>>537423364Yeah Kamodshida is pretty based everyone knows that already tho so there’s no need to say it>>537423763I’m not saying they didn’t do a lot, Futaba especially, but you gotta give credit where it’s due - it’s the Cat that fucked him.
>>537425835Ichinose is in fact a perfect genius female which is mostly a facade because while a coding prodigy she was gaslit into being a supreme autist with no emotions so she decided to take them from the world by building god via javascript, and then you find out about the gaslighting and it turns out she does have feelings, she's just stupid autistic and not supremely autisticHonestly she's kind of fascinating because of how absurd she ends up being, but she's stuck in spin-off hell so they'll never expand on her or bring her up at all
>>537426190I agree, I just think it's funny the only in-universe mention comes from Yukiko
>>537426605I love her so fucking much its unreal.
>>537426193I want to rape Sae THERE. IYKWIM
https://youtu.be/n0nOj-HRWDQ?si=ZNif-T7V3KgPU0Zhso this is the true potential of FeMCfags..... i can't get this song out of my head holy shit
>>537426786I am fond of all the P5 spinoff women
>>537426793https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=scSDV6XArJo
>>537426921Hikari…
>>537426793https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vvGh4bETylM
women good
>>537427220ESPECIALLY Hikari
the moral of p5's story is that it's okay if you're evil if you're a young twink
Kinda unbelievable how underdeveloped he is compared to the hours and hours you spend on the various mustache twirling rapists of the week.I think Akechi represents the single greatest flaw with the game desu.Too based, too schizo, too pure cringe-kino, too overtly masculine and edgy.The people in charge didn't know how to make it work. So they just didn't.
>>537426830If I can't have Coat pussy, then there's no point.
>>537426921Toshiro is so fucking lucky
>>537427385Mayumi, it's me, your husband! I'm here to save you, or my name isn't Tohru Adachi!
>>537427736what's wrong with his character?
>>537427608That ugly fade in that they added with the "remastered" versions annoys the fuck out of me.
P5S cinematic all out attack kino....
That nigga Kechi is way too based to be around all these fuckin "useless" women who are all secretly perfect geniuses.Curse them and their...big round parts.... and luscious, succulent lips....>>537427956Black Mask feels stapled on overall. You already know who he is. Why pretend otherwise?His presence as a detective prince foil to the Phantom Thief should have been the major driving force of the games events. But it's not. It feels like "oh yeah and the mental shutdowns too" gets thrown in every arc at the end in the background like there's a thread there, but there's not much actually going on there between Black Mask and the PT as a unit. You never encounter him and get your asses kicked, increasing the mystery. You never have any contradictions that make you think it could be anyone other than Akechi.Akechi's confidant is excellent, but it fails to integrate into the main story until literally Akechi 'dies'. Instead of really building him the way they should have, everything falls on to the PT foils father who is the most generic and evil rapist in the entire game. This is the problem with his character. Shido sucks compared to Akechi, and if Akechi had actually killed Shido to take over his enterprise or cause mass hysteria and throw off Yaldabaoth, or trying to replace Shido with a shadow body double or some shit.....you could have gotten really weird and had Black Mask Akechi become more sinister and interesting as a mastermind of events in ways you never saw coming.Instead, he's no mastermind. Just a mad, sad dog. They had to bring him back in Royal and give him a sendoff in order to cover up for the fact that Black Mask received next to no development.
>>537429412>Why pretend otherwise?I think the obviousness of it is meant to distract from Igor being revealed to be evil, like it's so obvious that Akechi is a traitor that you're too busy asking "they're doing this again? really" and not "i wonder if the VA and attitude change mean anything"But otherwise I mostly agree, he's not great, stapled is a good way of putting it
expect more of these insane fujos and trannies when revival drops and they all see yosuke for the first time.
>>537431073What insane trannies and fujosAre they in the room right now???
Naoto's fountain pens.
>>537431739Journaling with Noot...
>>537431683stop gaslighting me
marie motorboating
>>537431739We're going to call her Troonto from now on unfortunately.
We're going to call her Toronto
Persona 6 set in Vancouver
>>537432498If that were possible, at least he'd be safe from the annual nuclear bomb know as a hurricane.
>>537432108Marie motorboating who though…?
>>537432653Sis does not know her local history… https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hurricane_Hazel
>>537433262And that's why I say anyone willingly living in Florida on a daily basis is subhuman.
did yosuke deserve half the shit that happened to him? I feel like chie and yukiko making him strip in the library while they step on his weenie was going too far.
>>537432196Knock that off.>>537433262We've made improvements since then.
>>537433407Yes he is a sinner
>>537433407Yosuke deserved worse
>>537431739Naoto's fountain penis.
Shitsuru and Shitmire kissing
>>537429412>"oh yeah and the mental shutdowns too" gets thrown in every arc at the end in the background like there's a thread there, but there's not much actually going on there between Black Mask and the PT as a unit.goro is on their ass in the real world because he is looking for them and keeps tabs on them once he knows who they are. and they try to deny his assumptions about their identities with it eventually leading into him trying to trap them but they outwit him in the end.and the thread about bm ties into shido/the conspiracy/goro.>it's obviousi feel like it's supposed to be because the phantom thieves know he's going to try to kill joker.so the player/joker knows too.>shido sucks compared to akechii like goro more too but he's my favorite p5 character so...>akechi actually killed shidohe wanted his approval. goro is a prisoner of his own masks/personas because he wants the approval they bring him.he contrasts the pt in how he ends up serving someone he hates and empowering a villain like the rest of society. he doesn't properly "rebel" like the pt did until he gives up his life.he wanted a place to belong like the pt did but he didn't find a group like them to truly accept him for who he is like they did. he's them if they went down the wrong path and found a place to belong with the wrong company.but let's say he hypothetically does outwit shido and yaldy, how does he still thematically fit as a villain and foil to the pt in your scenario?>instead he's no mastermind. sendoff in royali do think royal's sendoff was better because he had more agency but it is still basically a repeat of his ending in vanilla. just executed cooler.
>>537431683he means me!>>537428754the weird yellowish brown screen effect? i don't know they added that either.
>>537432108We love Marie here.
>>537434413fuck off Lahey
>>537432108That’s the true ‘sumi.
haru is so fucking boring and obese
>>537436826I require proof of this latter claim.
>>537436481True!
>>537436826That's how females are supposed to be. Even Muslims took the architectpill at this point.
and there's also the detail with bm goro putting his mask on in his transformation sequence while the phantom thieves take off their masks in their transformation sequences. but i've seen this mentioned before.it's just an important detail that goro couldn't bring himself to take off his masks while the phantom thieves could take off theirs because they were able to rise above needing anyone's approval as well as the labels placed on them. they didn't need their masks to hide and try to fit in anymore. and the way society superficially saw them didn't matter anymore to them.goro's mask doesn't come off until the phantom thieves beat it off of him and it literally breaks.
>P5R rehashed P1Why is P5 so unoriginal?
>>537437317anniversary game. same as metaphor.p5 also rehashed p2 with the deal between igor and yaldy.and it rehashed p4 with a detective prince character and evil detective character.
>>537437527>anniversary gamePersona 3Persona 5 have been an anneversary game, and Persona 6 will skip next year's 30th anneversary so far because P4 Revival will take that spot lol.
>>537438340Chee’s butt cheeks
>>537436902her fiance says she needs to hit the gym
>>537438340One hell of a cameltoe
>>537398990>>Does anyone with the police ever one time come up to her and sayNo because she wasn't on the task force anymore by the point anyone knew she was a girl. There is no time in the narrative to make a fuss of it anymore once the jig is up. She's simply no longer relevant to the police at that point.
where have you been
What did she mean with this?
>>537439210the real question to be asked: where have i?
>>537439339Yusuke would have to force her to take a bath every day or the divorce would happen. There's no way he would ever tolerate the fish pussy smell.
>>537439339that she can look up sae's amazon history
>>537439339I'd rather see Tab's underwear
>>537439785that's impossible, she doesn't wear any
>>537439984:O
>>537438714i wish chie would sit on my face
So, I've been using AI to make my own Persona RP campaign, and so far I have the>yamato nadeshiko student council president who is actually a creepy stalker psycho for MC but in a good way>chie 3.0>kawakami 2.0 but she is a Persona user and protects the MC before he awakensHowever, after a few cryptic visits to the Velvet Room, I couldn't come up with a proper attendant that doesn't feel derivative of the existing ones. Should I make her a middle-aged MILF or maybe a reverse trap?
The Sae's Palace's shadow playboy bunnies becoming a fetish thing is kind of weird.
>>537437317P3 rehashed P1P4 rehashed P1PQ rehashed P1P4 Arena rehashed P1PQ2 rehashed P1
Revival will be all about the feet. Atlus will make models that are more detailed than deload and have rosy soles with bump map wrinkles. Naturally, every toe will bend at their realistic joints
>>537441584>P4 rehashed P1
>>537441584I wish the other games had an overworld as zany as P1's
...
>>537440686But all your other characters are derivative too so it shouldn’t be a problem
>>537441958Yeah no shitIf you’re surprised you’re a moron
>>537441976Sure, but I want to have something Persona 6 could do.
>>537441958123567890 and I kill myself on new years 4 and i live untl revival
>>537441958I hope FM26 releases eventually and it's not a total disaster. The whole FM25 fiasco has been a trainwreck.That said, it's obvious P4 Revival is going to release after March 2026.
>>537441958>including European IP titleSo, Creative Assembly and/or Football Manager.I wonder which Mainstay Titles they mean. Sonic, Yakuza, Football Manager and an Atlus IP? Right now I can't think of any other SEGA IPs. Maybe Project DIVA, but that's it.
>>537441584p2 rehashed p1 as well
>>537444635Seven Sisters seems okay if you can go when there's no curses going around
Persona 6 but it's a romantic comedy
>>537441958>Persona releasing next to Yakuza againlol
>>537443991Yakuza. There's a RGG direct on the 24th.
>>537446405lol for who
>>537443991New Jet Set Radio is coming, believe in it
>>537441958what is legacy ip
>>537448519Old IPs that are forgotten, like Jet Set Radio
>>537436826True!
>>537314251Just coming here to say that Okumura boss fight is the worst piece of shit atlus have created by far, i will take Satan or the edgy boy on smt vv any day of the week, thank you
>>537448519Etrian 6>>537449947you're kinda a little shitty baby boy so have fun being that
>>537449947It ain't hard.
Aigis!
>>537450553Nicely Aigis'd.
>>537450553Aigis is such s slutty coalburning slut
>>537441958>2027I fucking hate atlus man
I like Metis....
>>537450876I like that you like Metis....
>>537441958Where is Persona 6?
>>537449947It's a dps check fight, so it's simply about stacking as many multipliers as you can. One thing people forget is you can use consumable attack items to build up baton pass
>>537451675Is this trope mocking male sexuality, or mocking them for being so debased and degenerate like that?
>>537438340She's rounding her lower back and her hands are positioned incorrectlyThere's no way I can goon to this now
Would you mind a Koto?
>>537452593small cock massive loadsshe's a keeper
>>537452593Nicely Koto'd.
>>537451951it's mocking them for acting like horny teenage boys
>>537453640Don't know why it needs to be mocked. Should they be like Vulkans and say "oh yes, that female looks to be reproducible, should we go ask her to do so with us?"
i don't get the hate for the okumura fight. then again when i played royal i played on critical.i'm at his palace on my current royal run on standard so i'll see how it goes i guess.
>>537453837because it's just very unclassy to hit on someone so vulgarly. now that i think about it your latter explanation in the first post does fit it. they hit on her vulgarly.
>>537454026The only reason to mock something for so long and consistently is humanity as a whole knows it'll never change. For this to continue, I see it as a weakness as a society and existence. I'd say brehs should never be mocked for reacting emotionally at discovering something for the first time.
>>537454309come on "is it risky or RISQUE!?" is a pretty bad joke. same for mishima's.
>>537453848>i don't get the hate for the okumura fight. then again when i played royal i played on critical.Well that's the answer. It's a dps check fight and on merciless you have a 3x multiplier. The challenge is really only present on hard, if you're on normal you're not going to see it either (unless you're just bad at the game).
>>537451028i finally beat it, i was getting bodied in the green robot’s parts, gladly i have some luck with crits and was able to build enough momentum to kill them, still it was a very annoying fight.
>>537454431>merciless you have a 3x multiplier.that's right. it's why i brought it up.>the challenge is only present on hardso people complaining about the game's difficulty are playing on hard?...
>>537454931>so people complaining about the game's difficulty are playing on hard?...No, it's the "unless you're just bad at the game" part. There's a lot of morons out there
>>537455006yeah sorry i hit reply too soon. i just assume a lot of people use the dlc personas and then don't know how to properly use baton pass OR they just come unprepared.
it was a pretty fun day here today
>>537455919If there was some Sumi, just one little Soom, it would be far better.
>>537455919not really.
>>537455919madarame's microaggressions and the phantom thieves' woke agenda
>>537456204We hate piece of shitmire here.
>>537456467i had fun arguing with him even if i disagreed. and some of it got a laugh out of me. i had fun.i'm sure plenty of people probably found my goro posts bad and funny too because he's mostly seen as a "cringe" character.
>>537456637No, we don't.
>>537456676Yes, we do. Total shitmire death.
>>537456637based
Pitsona
>>537455919Some balding millennial posting cringy millennial sitcoms wasn't that fun.
>>537457335sniff
>>537457391I hit you with a tactical bazinga.
>>537457391the sea was angry that day my friends
>>537457391frfr nocap he ain't fire unc deadass needs to stop yappin and sybau with that ohio cringe goofy ahh shit :skull:
>>537459396mapopo
>>537459527Only subhumans even think of posting that or talking like that after the age of 16.
>>537457391I have no idea what you're referencing here.
Yukiko!
>>537432819you are misunderstanding the situation
>>537461067i want to motorboat marie's butt
>>537459797we didnt talk like that when i was 16...
>>537461067That miniskirt... her ass is fully on display.
>>537461238Yes you did. Whatever was the 'new thing' you spoke. Which is why I'm better than most people who've ever lived because I speak with what's absolutely correct. Like Nietche, Wagner, etc.
yosukes the type of guy to say bitchinyo chie those sneaks are straight up bitchin
>>537461067Girls with big boobs should enjoy other girl’s boobs too. Anime has taught me that that’s called skinship
What kind of bra does Lavenza wear?
>>537434985And Marie loves you! (begrudgingly)
>>537462012Hand
>>537436481Despite their similar roles as "re-release girls", I really don't think they have very much in common at all. Pitting them against each other just doesn't seem very necessary to me.
>>537463851Disgusting slut.
Chie's stinky butthole
>>537464083Cum in ass
2024 is almost over and it still feels like march.
>>537464958Way too haggardly.
>>537461067Fatter…
I'm tired, bros.
>>537465196Wake up bro.
>>537464958>2024 is almost overanon... i have some bad news for you...
>>537461167if you hugged her tightly enough around the waist, i don't think she would be able to escape
this thread was terrible
>>537465524good, I'd want my face to stay buried in there, surely she'd like it too after a while.
>>537465558Feels terrible without her.
>>537465626No reason to.
>>537451876Sae is an autist
>>537465524your hands aren't touching if you hugged her around her waist
>>537441584I kneel
>>537461392I bet Margaret gave her underwear.
getting inside goro while he's inside me...
so why do we like akechi again?
>>537467029Tribadism but with two men? Sorry, """""""men"""""""?
>>537467862i'd finger him while he's inside me
>>537466714>marie wears margaret’s used undies
>>537466714would stretch her ass cheeks apart like some hitman opening up an elevator shaft in an action movie and lick her poop chute...if you catch my drift
>>537461931You may very well have a point...
>no games for 2 yearsits over....
>>537469615we just had a P5 spinoff come out
>>537469746sybau
>>5374703184rape
Even coffee can't keep me awake now
>>537467501because we're all gay
>>537470993If you drink coffee at a young age, your bones won't grow as they should.
>>537471227Nanako....
>>537470993take a nap you silly
>>537471227My bone plates are way past their maturity but I still look like Ken
>>537471276But I just woke up...
>>537471367Do you remember feeling that, or did you just stop getting taller?
>>537471702I realised once I eventually stopped measuring myself against the scale back when I was 15.
>>537471989Ken had at least 16, just has to take the calcium pills.
>>537471508I hate this dumb whore so much it's unreal
>>537472132This, but shitmire instead of Aigis.
>>537472071I drink milk everyday.
>>537470993https://files.catbox.moe/n862o4.jpg
>>537472448
I miss her bros
>>537473023Go find yourself a real Sumi
>>537473252If I ever find her, I'll love her every day of my life.
>>537450656Is she trying to fist someone with that hand ?
Disgusted by Scumi.
>>537473380That would be way foo painful.
do the phantom thieves go too easy on goro? do they get nice too fast considering he just tried to kill them? are they too friendly? it feels like he should have joined sooner and been a party member longer and actually helped them out for how nice they are towards him. but he has antagonized them the whole game and rants about how he's been mistreated and gives them the puppy dog eyes and then they sympathize with him. and yeah it sucks to be a bastard orphan in japan but he was never their friend but they treat him like he was at one point.it just feels like he should have been an actual party member rather than the guy we all know is up to no good. i feel like it would've hit harder if he was your actual friend instead of your enemy since day one.
>>537473023Cheer up, after Joker she probably found some other guy who helped her find herself.
but i guess a counter point would be that it would go against goro's character in that he could have been your friend if he met you 2 years earlier.actually having him be your friend would wreck that aspect.
mara?
>>537476727what about it?
>>537476727with chinese characteristics
Do you think this is what Heaven should sound like after Naoto's dungeon?https://youtu.be/fGiiOcd7oGc?si=Ia_YeYL5A6bGHmX2
>>537478013>>537478013>>537478013