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God imagine that big strong arm's girth.
>Copen in gunvolt 3 was a lie>99% of the planet are racists like copen>Eden was right >Sumaregi are the good guys
GG << old property nobody remebers like Gunbike < GV = BMZThat's how I'd place my bets for what the revival will be.GG it lowest because the past several games have been GG related. GV is more likely because they've already stated they're interested and that the trilogy is prep for a reboot. It's also right around the time you'd expect an announcement (2-3 years between games). BMZ because there hasn't been a new game forever.
>>537450348I was expecting a Roll OP in honor of the fallen texan anons.
>>537450715At this point, INTI is just fucking with us and themselves.
Since it's not in the inti news sectionhttps://x.com/t_aizu/status/1962238033232884001There will probably be another game announced at TGS. A revival of something.
>>537450924Gunbike revival
>>537450924>>537450745imagine if zx3 is real
>>537450869Stop adept discrimination.
>>537450745imo BMZ is the most unlikely because of Sunsoft. I would say it's a toss up between new GG and GV, and the other possibility being actual revival of old series e.g. Gunbike or Love&Destroy or Intigolf
>>537450348Wasn't this used as an OP before?>>537450715>People are threatening Inti with the good old gas tank trick if they don't release Copen on GV 3
>>537450869No honor for stolen land.
>>537450715If Cope is the average, that's more like 50 something percent, with the other 50 being mildly racist but not destructive to actually like having them around.
So where can I follow the development of that Gunvolt fan game from the previous thread?
>>537450924It's time... Intigolf 2.
>>537451420China.
>>537451230They should just put him in as is. It's not going to be very fun, but hopefully it'll hammer it in just how badly they butchered him.
>>537451181Yeah Gal Gun is fucking as dead as Senran Kagura, modern sensibilities and all that its why Gal Guardians exists.But hey, a Love and Destroy custom mecha anime game with dating sim elements would be neat.
>>537450745It's a property nobody gave a shit about, GVshit can't be because they just went "no this isn't even close to being ready" in the last GV stream.
isnt this from inti? maybe the revival is this
Does the ball dematerialize when Idol Lola pops out or does it act like a projector? She's half-science/half-magic so I expect some bullshit.
>Gunvolt goes back in time as a baby>series reboot happensWere just gonna replay 1 2 and 3 forever.
>quick without iframesthis does not bode well
Why are there mmg and mmg+inti generals?
>>537452283It's just a projection. The ball is on her ass.
>>537452328Look on the bright side, you get to kill Elise, Gibril, Desna, and Zonda again.
>>537452283Likely projection if it works similarly to the Muse.
>>537452364How come we have 4 of the weapons and not a single one of them has been a weakness
>>537450745It's a toss up between GV and old IP.BMZ and Bloodstained can be ruled out since Natsume is busy with MajogamiGal Gun can be ruled out because mainline is on hiatus due to current gay censorship climate and Grim Guardians just got a new game like you saidDMFD is lol, lmaoGunbike is in Sony jail stillIn that tweet, Aizu says: "ヤマトネタが頭に浮かんだのですが" (A Yamato Joke comes to mind), which leans more towards an old IP getting revived as that doesn't fit the description of Gunvolt UNLESS it's something Kirin related. That's if I am not misinterpreting the moonrunes. Now, we do know that a new Gunvolt game is in the works at this point and it'll involve mainline Acura and RoRo. So it's still possible it's that.
>>537452431this is the inti creates thread(gunvolt gg cardinciel etc) and they maked 6 megaman games, the other is pure megaman and 0 inti games
>>537451135>our content was too provocativeThen why did they allow it in the first place?
>>537452656This stuff is decided months in advance and the Texas anti-anime law was passed recently.
>>537452575china has no weakness
>>537450348
>>537453050nice anti-ai glaze
>>537452767Worldwide digital currencies go into effect in a couple of months. We're all headed towards Choina.
are we sure we want to do this bullshit for the remaining 26 minutes
>>537451684Anything more specific? What's it called? Where was the footage from?
>>537452431A handful of trannies got so booty blasted over Inti and weeb shit in general that they made a split thread only for Mega Man, which is on life support to no one's surprise.
>>537453050I laughed. >>537452767That's less funny...
>>537450924Still betting on Blaster Master.
>>537454142It's not there to be funny, it's there to flex power.
Japanese anons have a record of staff comments at a ZXA Tunes eventhttps://w.atwiki.jp/rockmanzx2ch/pages/198.html>ZX had voice acting because the target demographic was younger than Zero and they were concerned young kids wouldn't be able to read all the text>Albert may or may not have taken parts from Axl to make Model A>Model A has what's left of Albert's own conscience trying to stop himself>The timeskip is very specific to keep Vent/Aile at 18 (still oniisan/oneesan) because they thought 19 would be ojisan/obasan territory to kids
>>537452193Marvelous own the rights to it, they didn't even include it in Card-en-Ciel.
>>537454768Fucking Marvelous.
GV Re: Boot 1.Juan Sakurazaki, known as Gunvolt the armed blue vigilante, faces his nemesis Mytyl Kamizono the evil heir of Sumeragi. His ally is the escaped Sumeragi experiment Eros Lyze mk 3 who's power of life over death was abused by Sumeragi.Together the totally not X and Zero ripoff fight off Mytyl's mercenary army and hamper her goal of profit at any life lost.
>vanilla flashah yes, why would I expect anything good
are we w
>>537456445I'm gonna w if flash doesn't kill quick
>>537456534surely if it's the useless trash vanilla flash it'll at least do that much
>>537456631.......................................
of course
>>537450924Please make it Love & Destroy. Using all-new graphics and character designs to match.
>>537451048>ZX3Your best hope is the Chinese
How does Awakened Roro exist in the iX timeline? She never acquired a mirror piece in that universe, so she should've stayed a combat pod like when lost it during GV2's ending.
some hack had this exact bubble
>>537451420What fan game?
christ how long is this fucking stage
>>537452431A coalition of exacly two people who used to be the thread lolcows with the help of an Elpizo decided to make their own general to prove that "we don't need IntiCreates lolis or racism"... Now it's basically a discord server outside of discord.
>"why two thread">"discord!"every time
>>537458487It's likely several key events still happened, at least until the intro: Eden's invasion, Mytyl being kidnapped, Cope running into Tenjian and Zonda.Some unknown factors like Asimov's role would veer into guesswork territory, but he does need to find out Mytyl and the Muse were connected to come up with Butterfly Effect, so things just happened *somehow* that leads to Roro awakening.
>>537461279I don't get it, don't they already have discord for that?
>>537458487iirc Copen says on an iX base conv that she displayed that while they were fiddling with the muse's septima. This means Copen probably took a sample of the stack of bodies Asimov left after deado endo.
nuke china
thanks for enduringI don't want to see this piece of shit ever again, or anything else form this guy
>>537462556if any other hack removes the iframes, shut it down immediately
>>537461279What, do you expect different answer to the same question?
>>537450715>Sumaregi are the good guysAlways were.
>>537462864it's just clear you're responding to yourself at this point, always asking the same question, and giving yourself the same answer. providing a soapbox for yourself, to bitch about things you have no control over, and without any evidence. it's really annoying, actually.
>all this talk about revivalsSo are you guys ignoring they trademarked this around the same time as Majogami or just forgot about it?
Are adepts teenagers, or anime teenagers? What I mean by the latter is that they basically behave like adults, but have to go to school. Like X is supposed to be based off of a 14-year-old (in body and mind), yet he behaves nothing like a 14-year-old.
>>537463886>mobile gamewell, pick your poisonthere's been a severe lack of robot/scifi games lately considering it's more gothic, fantasy or spiritualism for 3 years, cec being the closest but at the same time an idea/setup mashup base game aside
>>537463886The name's too long.Aizu also said they'd have news about a sequel to "this game or that game" this year, which doesn't sound like an ancient IP being resurrected.
>>537464084Anime teens.
>>537463361Not funny.In fact quite fucking scummy
>>537464338It's their first original IP so it being an anniversary game would make sense.
>>537464653I don't know why people keep denying it when even in the first game everything Nova said was proven right.
>>537454983One does have to wonder how they fell this hard. Once upon a time they were one of the weebest devs ever.
>>537461534That scenario requires you to buy that Copen somehow soloed Eden by himself only to lose Mytyl anyway. I don't think they even get into the country if Gunvolt's not there to fuck Sumeragi up for them because he's too busy being dead.
>>537463583>it's really annoying, actually.Good.
>>537465135Listening to localizers.
>>537464084Both. They are shockingly competent but also immature. Take Nova. His beef with GV boiled down to GV getting more attention from adults for his septima. Merak and Teseo behave like super-intelligent children. They're petty and impulsive with their powers, and Teseo treats his fight like a game until he loses enough health, then he starts freaking out about actually dying. Zonda bounces back and forth between acting like an adult mastermind to being a brat, granted, with a few screws loose. Gibril behaves a ton like a broken teenager. Then you have Kirin, Copen, and GV, who are very mature with instances of chuuni. People assumed Kirin was an older teenager until her age was formally revealed. I think it's covered in FM that adepts can come off as alien and "creepy" to normies because of this.
>>537463583Or maybe you just get the same answer when you ask the same question.
>>537465198I don't see why you take pride in shitting up this thread by making up stuff about other generals. Aside from attention, of course.
>>537459732This one.Translation of text:>Zed: A Crystal gate (hexapyle)? This thing wasn't here before?>Kirin: The final dragon radiation reaction... I can feel the ominous aura through the door
>>537464870Nova was also planning to reform Sumeragi, because surprise every other adults were still the same greedy CEO we have to deal with.>>537465146>because he's too busy being deadBut he already fucked up Sumeragi by the time he got shot.
>>537465437He's not making that one up, at least.
>>53746408414 is an adult in their world. Yes this means Gibri'sh is legal and can marry.
>>537465519Xiao: A successful case of the third phase of the azure striker mass production plan?Xiao: Among all the timelines I can jump, there is no time when he was born. His origins must be investigated.Xiao: If teamed up with Gunvolt's group, there might be a chance to defeat him.Xiao: But I'll never fight by his side.Xiao: Just like every time before, I will manipulate the situation in my direction.Xiao: Even if something unexpected happens, I can just rewind time to the start and begin again.
>>537465687
>>537463886>wolfboy GunvoltI wonder if this artist ever guessed he'd be churning out attractive cannon fodder in his cutesy style.
>>537465601Nah, it's just made-up bullshit, repeated again and again with the intent of manufacturing the truth. It always happens like this>The other thread has an elpizo working for it!>The other thread was made because <reason>>Always refers to it as a 'discord' like it's a pejorative, while ignoring how Minti engages in lots of off-topic discussions, or offsite social activities that could be described as 'discord-like' in nature. Never is any evidence given for any of these things, of course, because it's just catty woman-like bitching, repeated ad nauseam to reflect your impotent frustration at something existing without your permission.
>>537465652That's for Japan. It is noted that this is older than most of the world.
>>537450715Stop.
>>537467118Go!
>>537450715You missed the point of the game if you think Eden or Sumeragi were right. Sumeragi wanted to mind control all adepts, turning them into an army that they'd use to conquer the world. Eden wants to wipe out all humans. GV3 is about Gunvolt getting over his guilt and realizing that some people just have to die if the world is to turn out better. Where GV tripped up was not taking any responsibility and helping rebuild society after toppling it.
>>537465350Everything about how adepts function is weaponized anime logic, like how preteens can pilot a mecha and all the adults around them are too incompetent or powerless to stop whatever threat shows up that week. And 20 is the magic age at which you become an ojisan (if you can live that long).
>>537467692>missing everything on purpose still, weeks later, and octopling down
>>537462556>Rape room
Note the Elise-like ends on the hair.
>>537467860>>537465350Yeah, half the fights read like schoolyard brawls with lethal anime powers being thrown about. Like Gibril ranting about GV looking down at her, perving on her, and/or making fun of her. I guess that might be true of real life adults too (granted, without the anime powers), though.
Shantae at home.
>>537466416You could see evidence of all those things if you bothered to see the archive, dude.
>>537468302That's not Luxia.
>>537468503We were so much livelier back then.>4 years ago, going on 5For the same regurgitated topics it really shows autism is a hell of a drug.
>>537467692You missed the point of the game if you think the protagonists are right either. All the major antagonist factions in Gunvolt are pro-adept, they just bicker over what that really means. Which leads to lots of mass deaths.
ZXbros, not again...
>>537468697Yes and no. Megaman was way more dominant back then because X dive keep the flow of new stuff going while Inti was barely there as something that would prevent the general from being just another gacha general. Nowdays it's Inti who keeps the flow of fresh things to talk about.
>>537468897
>>537468630I know, she has reverie Zonda's curls.
>>537468897Okay, eight letters.Rules out Gal Gun(6), Love and Destroy (14), Gun Bike(7), but not Ini Golf(8).
I just want you guys to know that if Digimon can stop being a corpse of an IP, so can Megaman!
>>537468897>Capcom makes a new game just to spite them just like they did MM11 out of spite for Inafune >It's gonna be directed by Neil Duckman Would you be hyped anons?
>>537469101digimon never die anon
>>537468963XDive was more like keeping an 89 year old cancer patient alive with life support
>>537469149Yes they do. All the time even. It's how you get new digimon.
>>537468897Oh shit it's Majogami!
>>537469101Really? I don't recall them making a new Digimon World
>>537469101I don't think Megaman should come back while Capcom is still on full Wokecom mode.
>>537469149Only in the Adventure canon, and only if they aren't evil in which case their data ends up in Hell
>>537469207>>537469396both of you are fucking retarded, i was talking about the ip, learn to read the context
>>537469317Intimon: Kizuna Connect World.
>>537466416They have an actual imagebump bot keeping the general alive. How do you think that's been allowed to stay that way for 4 months?
Waga ai yo
>>537469496Tamers literally killed the IP for years.
>>537467860>you can live that longPuts a lot of teen movies in retrospect if you're not guaranteed to even be alive for prom and makes the obsession with festivals and dances make more sense.
>>537468503>I don't have it, but it exists, just trust mecool.here's some posts for you>>532695786 >>532696668 >>530689329 >>530704514It's always the same shit, the innocently framed "Uhm.. why two generals?" and then someone - coincidentally present at the time - coming in to give the same canned answer with some variation (Sometimes it's bluesky, sometimes the site going down is the reason, but it's always just retarded conjecture without any evidence)i'm sure it's just a coincidence, though. Just lots of people confused, and lots of people pushing the same narrative in response to that confusion.
>>537469636it was frontiers retard and later hunters
>>537469085But i counted 9X'sand you know what else has 9 letters and that number is related to popular cultureof course they would pull the most retarded move
>>537469876https://web.archive.org/web/20051230143930/http://www.bandainamco.co.jp/ir/presentation/pdf_bandai/04_inter_keisu.pdfTamers barely made half of 02s revenue (0w made 90% of Adventure)https://digi-lab.blog/digifes-2019-20th-anniversary-memorial-pamphlet-animation-play-back/The DW arc in tamers was rushed to save ratings and Saki went into Frontier knowing it would probably be the last series>I had a hunch that this fourth series might be our last one, so I put my heart into thinking about how we should challenge ourselves until the end. We wanted to go full throttle into making the Digital World into a Kaizawa World, tooTamers killed digimon, Frontier was gonna be the last season regardless.
>>537469532>Checking the dates on their last thread, the last one stayed up for 10 days before 404 (8/19/2025 -> 8/29/2025)>Check another slow general, and their thread is 22 days before 404 (08/06/2025 -> 08/28/2025)Observing another general with equally as dead franchise, it's not even the slowest one. But I guess that general is also just using image posting bots, huh? Every slow general that manages to persist through stubborn autism is just a den of bots. I can say this without needing to provide any proof, of course.
>>537468897>>537470096>it was autotranslation fucking up the original tweet in that picphew that was closenever mind schizopostunless
>>537470096Gal Gunvolt is 10 letters.
>>537470412so you are going to ignore the reality just for>i had a hunch
>>537470738True men craft their own reality.
>>537470738>the last series did so poorly the next one will be the last one for a while>the ip is dead because of that last series and not because of the thing that tanked it beforehand!About as expected.
What will Aradia's correction look like?
>>537470842>>537471069the only reality is that frontiers killed digimon for 4 years, adventure was and is still the most popular part of the ip, tamers doing worse is expected
>>537471147Probably something edgy.>>537471160>be shown to be wrong with sources>ignore them and double down on fan fiction instead
>>537471317>use him own source has a counter>he doesnt like it
>>537471317Majogami doesn't seem edgy. I half expect her to be forced to naked dogeza in front of all the craft witches.
Yeah, the answer is Frontier - removing digimon partners to focus entirely on a henshin gimmick removes a fun dynamic between human, and mon. Like, Tamers had Rika merging w/ Renamon for Sakuyamon, but but still existed as a pair, where as Izumi just directly turns into Fairymon using a mcguffin and that's gay. I was big into digimon, and Frontier was the point I checked out.Savers is also retarded, however, as the agumon redesign looks REALLY BAD, and marcus punching digimon is gay because it diminishes the purpose of a digimon partner when he can just slug a meramon, or whatever. GeoGreymon is cool, however.Nobody watched Xros Wars, except the scenes with LilithmonNobody watched Appmon.Adventure 2020 got raped by Covid, and as such, took a hit to quality.Ghost Game has Jellymon, which elevates itnot mm or inti however, so ignore this post
With each kiss you lose more.You love them because you're weak. You love them because you have nothing left.What started as a kiss on the lips became a kiss with your bodies.Honey for your agonizing solitude, dew for their suffocating suffering.Let love unite you and be your salvation.Are you not happy to be alive?May the pain of this world be relieved.
>>537471383What counter?>the last series did so bad the next series will be the last one forna while>after a while we did a new seriesAnd you're saying that the reason for this isn't because of the stated reason but because the series that was gonna be the last one for a while was the last one for a while.Please develop object permanence.
>>537471670Marcus only punched mons to gather enough data for Agumon to digivolve. He wasn't 1v1ing them.
>>537471787 >>537470738
>>537471740What is this, an Eden prayer? Somebody needs to get Zonda off this site. It's not a decent place for a girl like her.
>>537471873>be shown reason>ignore it because you like TamersEvery time.
>>537471917Weil = Copen?
>>537471917Commies don't know God nor shall they be given salvation when they get sent to meet him.
>>537472080Pantera is both a commie and catholic.
>>537471986>make his own reality>angry that is not true
>>537471843The frequency of the imagery alone is enough to turn me off from the series; I'm a stubborn autist with strong beliefs on what I like, as you can see.I dunno, I might watch it one of these days, I just can't stand him because of my preconceived notions.I'll NEVER like big-nose Agumon, tho, his ass looks retarded.
>>537472063This pic implies iX Copen has a faceplate instead of proper skin, which is both creepy and explains his lack of emotion. So either he's actually an android or the extent of his cyberization is really high (as in "brain in a jar," becauce cyborgs are still mostly made of meat.
>>537471147Sex with evil women.>>537452579>>537450745If it's GV, I hope it has the dark tone and depressing characters of the old games, but with less edge and nihilism. Things can actually get better even if other things get worse, people can change for the better, and GV doesn't kill all the sympathetic teenagers forced to fight or lashing out at a world/society that wronged them.
>>537472139In FM, lifewaves were considered to be blessings from heaven until adepts soured everyone. It's pretty likely that adepts are heavenly beings.
>>537471787Nta, but Tamers didn't kill the franchise. The resources your showing prove the opposite. More to the point though. Who the fuck cares about >muh ratings!Tamers is objectively the best and most competent written Digimon series and no amount of faggoty, untruthful whining about how it supposedly killed the series is going to change that.
Post dogs by Inti
>>537473620
>>537413730 >Gibril survives for more than two fights>Every rematch she becomes more masochistic until she's like Darkness and practically begging for you to defile her>Attacks you with bondage tools>Heavy moans every time she takes damageI wonder if that would get Inti cancelled
>The future of AI watermarks? The art IS the watermark.
>>537473090Yes it does. If something caused so much loss the hectic project you make is the last one then that's on what caused the loss, and in this case that falls on Tamers.
>>537474278Tamers didn't kill the franchise. The resources your showing prove the opposite. More to the point though. Who the fuck cares about>muh ratings!Tamers is objectively the best and most competent written Digimon series and no amount of faggoty, untruthful whining about how it supposedly killed the series is going to change that.
>>537465519>>537465687>>537465856link to trailer?
>>537465519>>537465687>>537465856Chinese seem to have us beat in dedication and autism.
Meowgaman Zero.Rocknyan Zero.
>>537475013>no amount of faggoty, untruthful whiningWich is all the defense amounts to. And it fails.
>>537476309I care about writing. And Tamers is well written. Regardless of what ratings say.
Babel and Firmament, Belladen, or the Sunrise Palace, how would you rank the final levels? Which had the better music, story, design, gameplay, and hype?
>>537470558Now look at the number of those posts that were just image bumps. Also a dead general is a dead general once the average edition lasts more than the previous post link, you are just measuring the level or rigor mortis after that.
>>537474191I was expecting little chibi levs as the watermark
>>537479176I think Firmament still wins just because how hard it sells that Gunvolt is an absolute behemoth of anihilation. Hell, it sells it better than the end of GV3.
>>537469205If so, how would you call only having comics nobody bought, toys nobody can get and whatever happens is Teppen as the only form of new material?
>>537479176>MusicBelladen. It starts off action-themed but gets heavier and heavier as the gravity of the scenario sets in.>StoryTie between GV1 and GV2's final levels. Sunrise Palace is not in the running.>DesignBabel/Firmament. All Belladen has going for it the final area, and the stairs are kind of cool I guess. Sunrise Palace looks pretty but the premise is so lacking that the effort feels wasted.>GameplaySunrise Palace.>HypeBabel/Firmament. The composer was so hyped by the final levels he ended up making a theme for that super short intermission stage when it wasn't planned.
>>537479176Belladen takes the best music and story. I consider GV2 to be the highpoint of the series in these two aspects. I just love how they take Eden's motif and change it about for each stage. Eden is gung ho and heroic. Inferno is a stressed retelling of the first track. Savior has a slower, mysterious, anticipatory tone with a hint of wrongness that is reminiscent of MML2's Elysium. The ironic thing is that as you play through, you realize that the music is telling Eden's story more so than GV or Copen's, which is in contrast to Firmament's soundtrack, which is mostly telling GV's tale. GV3's final level music was the worst. Sounded like a cheap rip-off of Shantae, and didn't even have various tracks for its final zones like the other games.Design and gameplay? Definitely Sunrise Palace. Best levels, best bosses, and so on, followed by GV2. Each game has been an improvement on the last.Hype? I think GV1 takes it. Charging Sumeragi's fortified island through the front gates by yourself and destroying Sumeragi's most elite forces, riding up the space elevator as you fight resurrected bosses, and then fighting Nova high above the planet is pure hype. GV1 has the most coolest concept for the final stage. GV2 is last here, but GV2 isn't really about hype. Belladen is depressing. It's supposed to feel messed up. Eden needs to be stopped, but it's tragic that it's come to this.
>21 years since X8, 25 years since Legends 2, and 18 years since ZX Advent
>>537481597>>537479176The Garden really showed you how fucked up Eden were. Joule makes the remark that it's an evil place, and all the soldiers fanatically throw themselves at you because they drank Zonda's coolaid. I liked Firmament better. Just vengeful GV ripping and tearing through Sumeragi's hordes and killing all of the Sumeragi Seven by himself.
Fatty spotted!
>>537482108>The Garden really showed you how fucked up Eden were.>Joule makes the remark that it's an evil placekek>and all the soldiers fanatically throw themselves at you because they drank Zonda's coolaidYou came there to kill them.
>>537479176>>537481597Babel (and Eridu leading up to it) has that good old fashioned action movie plot in its favor. Nova is GV's perfect foil and the enemy he has the most personal beef with. Despite Gunvolt's power, you feel like you're fighting against all odds which culminates in you scaling a traditional final boss tower. I want to like Sunrise Palace but the lack of narrative weight behind it thanks to GV3's half-baked story will always make it come in last place to me. It's just a sandcastle that some asshole Saudi prince erected to glorify himself, and it's still in Japan.
Babel ends with Elise getting hate crime'd so it's shit by default.
I don't really like GV2's final level being so on-the-nose as a classic final Mega Man level, down to the boss portals. In terms of gameplay, it's objectively the weakest. You do the boss rematches and Zonda is just literally waiting in the next room.
>>537482108Again, 8-4 ruined this because they don't want players to feel bad. Let me give you an example of the very first lines spoken by an Eden soldier in Inferno:8-4Pawn: Intruder on Level 4! Security, converge and destroy! Jap:Soldier: We’ve found the intruder on Level 4! General sortie! Protect our comrades!It sets the tone for everything else. In the English script, they're throwing themselves at you because they're religious fanatics. In the Jap script, they talk a lot more about protecting the defenseless adepts/Zonda from GV and Copen, along with talks of saving adeptkind. There's a sense of wrongness to everything. Eden shouldn't be evil, many of them don't come off as bad kids, yet here they are, trying to wipe out humanity because everything is so fucked.
>>537482143Poor thing. If any minos men where still alive she would not be single.
>>537483479And even then, in both sides Gunvolt looks cartoonshly evil in the stopgap room.
>>537450924https://x.com/LilShpee/status/1962344416619757892He might be into something here...
>>537483791>>537424110sorry I was spending time with my future wife (we ate a crab today)add more heads up
>>537483641In what way?
>>537482108>drank Zonda's coolaidIt's more like a bunch of protective older siblings guarding their youngest sister from two murderous assholes. She also happens to be the light of the world who will guide them to a new era where they aren't hated, persecuted and literally killed just for existing. Oh yeah, and where Dragon AIDS doesn't run rampant, but we didn't know that just yet.
>>537483540She's a Zed simp, she'd rather die a virgin on his shadow than settle for someone powerless.
>>537484542Because only Zed said anything to her that didn't start with "yo fatty"
>>537482143>Older than Kirin>Does the "lost child" bit before she attacksI know ages attached to anime characters are just numbers but why not just make her 13 when that's how she obviously looks and acts?
>>537484802Because she's a obese womanchild.
>>537484018Nike did tell GV "you'll turn into a monster that threatens all life on earth".GV then turned into anmonster that threatens all life on earth.Arguably the reason GV3 is as "peaceful" as it is is simply his absence.
>>537485015That and the goverment installing weapons pointed at their own citizens 24/7. Also from where is that?
>>537485323Final season of Symphogear They both got better
>>537485323>That and the goverment installing weapons pointed at their own citizens 24/7.Cops deployed to combat the dragons and Shiron's bullshit. We've been over this already.>Also from where is that?Symphogear, S5 specifically. It's good.
>>537485607You act as if military police with machine-gun turrets, combat mecha, flamethrower, and robot warhounds that can deploy platoons to a single area in minutes is somehow not as bad as it sounds.
>>537483479The very next line is also a major change. >向かってくるなら、 容赦は出来ないんだ!>Jap GV: If you stand in my way, I won't show any mercy!vs>Eng GV: I don't want to fight, but you leave me no choice!God, they butchered these characters. Like a lot of Americans are so pissed off at GV3 shitting on Gunvolt since they were sold the idea that he's some infallible hero of justice, when he has his flaws, which 8-4 sanded over. Apart from his binary thinking (good vs evil), when he gets angry, he explodes. It takes a lot to get him enraged, but he is fucking terrifying when he is. It's why the Eden soldiers assumed he'd slaughter the noncombatants.>>537483641Even in the English version, GV gets depressed as he slaughters his way through Belladen and needs Xiao to juice his anger. Belladen was the only time I can think where GV got philosophical, with his monologue on Orpheus travelling into the underworld to meet Hades and wondering if it'll end the same way for him, thinking about Zeno and Moniqa, and other trippy dialogue. It's more apparent in the Japanese version, but he's acting really out of character, which shows how stressed he's feeling. It's actually very subtle for the series, which is why GV2 was the high point of Gunvolt writing. It's also why, as fun as Copen is, he's a shit character next to Gunvolt.>>537484018Basically. Eden Party implies that she goes around Belladen talking with people and cheering them up when they're down. She doesn't like to see others being down. That she can play mental councillor for the other kids is why they all respect her.
>>537485607>S5It's crap compared to G
>>537485607>We've been over this already.Yes, you had to make it look like they have have Dragon Ball capsules but for entire killzones to have any argument to stand upon.
>>537485778>Even in the English version, GV gets depressed as he slaughters his way through Belladen and needs Xiao to juice his anger.Xiao had to do it a few times throughout the game when GV showed guilt, doubt, or depression. There's one time when GV is like, we've beat them enough, maybe we can get them to stand down if we talk, and then Xiao reminds him of all their crimes and GV is all, oh yeah, now I remember why I was doing this.We can slot this in with Nori saying that Xiao tells people what they want to hear, not the truth in the secret ending.
>>537485804It's all yurishit anyways.
>>537485773Hey, I didn't say a word about how militarized Sumeragi's """peacekeepers""" are. >>537485804I mean the whole show. >>537485814No, I didn't. When I said we've been over this already, that implied I wasn't interested in going over it again, anon-kun.
>>537486127GV would wonder if he could get his enemies to compromise, but Xiao is right. Eden are in too deep, too fanatical, and too hateful to meet Gunvolt halfway.
You did it Gunvolt, you stopped Eden!Now adepts and adept-lovers world-wide will still get butchered with utmost cruelty. Now if you'll excuse me I'm off to do absolutely NOTHING in a magical girl timeline.
>>537480656You completely missed the point being made, congratulations.
>>537486423>meet Gunvolt halfwayYou don't meet fascists halfway.
>>537485778>>537486127Not to mention, going off of Nori, that Xiao was manipulating Gunvolt, Zonda, and Copen. She attributed Zonda's success in combining Mytyl and Joule to Xiao. This was all his plan according to her.
>>537487263And it was all for nothing.
ZX character designs are made to be lewded
>>537486127>>537487263Why are you people so desperate for Xiao to be a baddie?
>>537486423Adepts will listen to other adepts because might makes right. Once they're not in a position to resist, he can literally hold his gun to their head and say he's the boss now. The only difference between Eden and Gunvolt is how far they're willing to go in the name of helping other adepts. One of them even has a (albeit twisted) crush on him so it's not like the foundation isn't there to cooperate.
>>537486434At least it's not the Copen route where the conflict would get a dozen times worse thanks to tales of him inspiring even more fear and anger in adepts, while the most extreme anti-adept people would be inspired by him destroying Eden.
>>537487439I'd imagine that originally, he'd have been like most Gunvolt antagonists in that he's trying to good with bad methods that fuck over Gunvolt and his friends. My guess is that he was trying to save the world from whatever calamity that Dr. Kamizono predicted taking place in a few years after GV2.
>>537487558As monstrous as Acura is, he has an ideology. His reasons are evil, but they're reasons.GV is just a blind reactive nub of stimulus response led by the nose by others.
>>537487439People are desperate for him to do anything, and shady manipulative villain is right there the bitch was lying the whole game. And instead it's all just a fucking joke ending.
>>537485778>Soldier: We’ve found the intruder on Level 4! General sortie! Protect our comrades!>Jap GV: If you stand in my way, I won't show any mercy!>Pawn: Intruder on Level 4! Security, converge and destroy! >Eng GV: I don't want to fight, but you leave me no choice!I'm so disgusted by this. Why did they do this? They're dumbing shit down for absolutely no reason and hurting the plot.
>>537487894No one wants to feel bad, and GV is murdering starving orphans, so some changes were made to not make the player feel like shit.
>>537487437>the black stuff is their skinI mean, yeah.
>>537458487I always imagined he got the septimosomes from Joule's corpse since he couldnt get a Lumen shard as gv2 wouldn't play out the same in that timeline.With Joule's blood, Roro unlocked a Muse ability that was 'good enough'. What the sexual awakening form implies I have no clue.
>>537487894>>537485778I like how in the Jap script, Teseo asked GV why he's even coming after him:>GV: You’re the one who turned the facility into this?>Teseo: Sure, man… LOL… Why U bothered to come: U got too much free time man… LOL…In the English script, this is changed to:>Gunvolt: Are you the one who turned this place into... this?>Teseo: NO IT WAS UR MOM. Considering all Teseo was doing was hacking Sumeragi, destroying their adept datastores (which Sumeragi uses to track and oppress adepts), and airing their dirty laundry, it'd make sense why he'd wonder wtf GV is doing there trying to stop him. And what's even more hilaious is that English GV treats everything Teseo is doing as bad, whereas the Jap version is annoyed by his personality, but not by his cyberattack against Sumeragi.
>>537489276GV would be coming after him for the Joule shard, but Eden may not have figured that out until after he's cut down half of their members.
>>537489276Teseo is the character they changed the most. He's very hard to localize.
>>537489276>And what's even more hilaious is that English GV treats everything Teseo is doing as bad, whereas the Jap version is annoyed by his personality, but not by his cyberattack against Sumeragi.I think in the Jap version, GV is pissed by Teseo not being serious about it and bragging about the views he's getting:>Teseo: I just uploaded footage of Sumeragi’s experiments on humans… Number of views is amazin’! LOL! TONS of very intense comments! LOL! There’s even “Die, Sumeragi!” comments too… LOL! I’m a great artist! LOL!>GV: You've got BAD TASTE... but why should I care?U need an explanation? LOL… U really… SLOW… LOL… WITTED… LOL! Summary: Eden, attacking those dirty Sumeragi rascals, are the heroes…And U, gettin’ in my way, are the world’s enemy… LOL…Ah! BTW! This battle is bein’ broadcasted in live through Eden’s official channel so check it out! LOL!The “world” is totally crazy ‘bout Gunvolt trying to execute me! LOL!In the English version, it's >Teseo: I UPPED VIDS OF SUMERAGI'S HUMAN EXPERIMENTS EARLIER. THE COMMENTS ARE PRETTY AMAZING. I'VE MADE A WHOLE NEW ARMY OF SUMERAGI HATERS. WOOPS.>Gunvolt: Why the hell would you do something like that? >Teseo: BECAUSE YOU ARE LAME, GV. DUH. I EXPOSED SUMERAGI PPL SO EVERYONE WILL THINK I'M RAD. THEN WHEN YOU ATTACK ME, PPL THINK YOU'RE BAD! #GHAURI. FYI I'M STREAMING THIS. SAY HI. EVERYONE HATES YOU. YOU CAN FEEL THE WORLD'S HATE THROUGH THE INTERTUBES.
>>537490503Original>Teseo: "わたしの歌はあなたのツバサになる] つwwっwwてwww""My song shall become your wings! YOU lol SAID lol THAT lolol"8-4>Teseo: LET MY SONG B UR WINGZ GV!!!11 I LUV U GV! U R SO GRIMDARK! DAT PONYTAIL THO. WOW.
>>537491209He really does come off as Gunvolt's version of a kick streamer. The point is not to expose Sumeragi, it's to manipulate and exploit situations to create content for his viewers. He's a prostitute, these people deserve no sympathy.
>>537491710Another important bit that is changed is that in the Jap script, the Eden members didn't have to die to normalize the Joule shards, they just had to use their septima in battle. There was no expectation that they'd end up dead. In the English script, Zonda's plans required they die to complete the shards, which makes her come off as much more monstrous and fake, and the characters much more cult-like. They also don't call Zonda by religious titles like oracle. It's just comrade Zonda, which is the same title as everyone else at Eden, because they're literally utopian socialist (everyone should be free and equal in Eden, even if in practice, some end up more free and equal than others due to their leadership ability and septimas).
>>537492520He was in the facility doing that anyway before GV showed up. The idea was to wipe the data storage (something GV also wanted) and expose Sumeragi to the world. He decided to release it in the middle of the battle instead of later to make GV look worse.
So you guys prefer sympathetic villain groups like Eden, or "sympathetic" like Repliforce?
>>537492520Really says something when you have to exaggerate his character flaws just to go "uuummm he's evil tho????".Like who gives a shit why he's doing it when it still exposed Sumeragi's inhuman practices. It's a good thing no matter how you slice it.
>>537492909>In the English script, Zonda's plans required they die to complete the shardsDoes it? Where?
>Teseo goes on an anti-minos rant live on stream to a bunch of minos>they don't turn off, they still support Eden
>>537493393>Zonda: Fret not. Parting is sorrow, but The Seven are resolute. Even as their shards return to the hands of the enemy, the normalization process proceeds smoothly. Soon my prayers--and my plan--will be made whole. For now, offer up a word for our departed comrades. ------------>Pantera: Everyone, please don't panic. It's sad to say goodbye, but the G7 agreed on this...The mirror pieces they left behind are now in enemy hands. Through the accumulation of fusion experiences with various Seventh Waves and practical use, we are steadily progressing towards universalization. Soon, my prayers and plans will be completed. For now, let us simply offer a prayer of love to our comrades who have passed away for their ideals and our future.I think it's this. Maybe there's some other line, but people infer from the English script that she sent them out to die. I see it repeated in videos and off 4chan enough.
>>537493304As opposed to downplaying it? And just to be clear, I never said he was evil. Just a scumbag.It's one thing to expose Sumeragi, it's another thing entirely to abuse the reveal in order to exploit the situation by putting yourself in a better light and going "LOL WHY YOU HITTING ME BRO? I'M THE GOOD GUY LOL I DINDU NUFFIN!"
>>537493614Teseo, Desna, and Milas are some of the least racist G7 members. He canonically doesn't give a shit about the racewar stuff. He might be "ironically" racist, but everyone frequenting his imageboard is an anon to him, no matter their septimal status.
>>537493783Japanese Zonda seems a lot nicer.
>>537494246>>537493614>Teseo: BTW... Hey, Gunvolt – san! Ya livin’ at Non – Psychic girl’s house, right? Ah! Bud! Don’t get tense! Don’t wanna harm her or anything, man, promise… I simply did some searchin’ (Googlin’) and I found that info! Thought U have her sustain ya, LOL… Good catch, Flirt-Volt! LOL! Well… U more suited as a host than a terrorist… LOL…
>>537494814Imagine being a powerful, hot, and sexy adept woman and you lose your man to a fucking powerless minos Becky. Like it's not even a competition, this powerless bitch absolutely steamrolled you.
>>537493907As opposed to treating it like two separate matters. "Oh he doesn't deserve sympathy because he's an annoying twat" when that same twat probably saved hundreds if not thousands of people in the long run is a hell of an opinion.
>>537495875>probably saved hundreds if not thousands of people in the long run >He didn't save shit. Sumeragi, even if weakened, controls the Japanese government. Exposing the unethical human experimentation would change equally as much as leaked government documents always does on this site, which is jack fucking shit. And lo and behold, they're just as much in charge in Gunvolt 3. Actually, they're the good guys.Purposefully engineering the situation to garner sympathy for yourself is douchebag territory, no matter how much you try to paint it otherwise.
>>537496625>Actually, they're the good guysShut up Kirin, this is why only BB and minos wanna date you.
>>537496625You're wrong, because throughout the first game, they're trying the hardest to hide what they're up to. In Sinner's Row, there's even a throwaway line where GV mentions they're hiding their military ops.Second, decades pass between the second and third game, plenty of time for Sumeragi to go from over the top megacorpofascist to the typical douchebag levels of a regular government (so no human experimentation, no death camps where they send useless adepts off to harvest their organs for products/parts, no mind control schemes, etc.)
>>537496743Adept girls make do.>>537496915It makes sense they don't want the populace to know they're a human-experimenting nightmare factory trying to control the entire world, but it's not like anyone is going to do much about it other than having a strong opinion and go on with their lives.As to the future, I get the feel that Sumeragi is still very much the same, it's just the world that has changed. After all, they used GV to power all of Japan after he came crawling back, which was their intention for him all along, as well as their grand goal. Profit off of adepts.
>>537462556what madness did I miss today
>>537496625>Sumeragi, even if weakened, controls the Japanese governmentConsidering how much they were in panic over the loss of Project Muse (and Nova), I don't think they control things that much.Hell their greatest asset was arguably Nova, second only to Dr K, with how much shit he actually does (or tries to before he got zapped to the extreme).
>>537498405Well it's what Copen says in A Clockwork Daydream and I don't have any reason to doubt that. If the current state of our world has taught us anything, it is that you don't need to exert any actual hard power to get what you want. You just have to be the richest man in the room, and any politician/power person will compete over who can suck you off the hardest. With Nova gone Sumeragi probably lost one of its best, and the loss of the Muse set back their plans, but they still got there in the end and even got their biggest danger to don the uniform.Zed knows about the golden rule; The man with the gold makes the rules.
>>537493156Repliforce were based retards, Zero could never compare with a chad like Kernel.
>>537489276Gunvolt is a dumb controlled opposition for Sumeragi. No matter who he kills or what he destroys he still furthers their interests in the end.
>>537496743But the minos don't want to date her. They wanna date this.
Kelsinger's
>>537493156Repliforce would've been more sympathetic if their reasoning wasn't just honor before reason. Like were any of them even oppressed?
>>537517305They were programmed to be soldiers, fucking retarded humans can't even remember what they coded 5 minutes ago.
I wonder if the broader Eden finds it weird that Zonda has sex with her Onii-sama.Then again, maybe that's why they sent her to Japan to begin with.
September
AIEEEE NOT THE PIPE
>>537524754Wait.September is the ninth month but the Latin used is the number seven, like Septima was."September Record" was used to attract and detect Adepts, or in other words it "records" the appearance of Sevens/Septima users.This really means nothing, I just think it's a funny wordplay.
Found good Pandoras
>>537526357Isn't that because a couple of egomaniacs decided to name months after themselves which pushed september to spot #9?
>>537529175Apparently it was January and February that got added late and push everything two months forward. July and August were renamed for the (back then) fifth and sixth month.
>>537517670Kernel looks really ugly here.
>vacations end >thread goes back into struggle to survive monday routine
>>537537583>Vacationslollmao
>>537537583It's labor day.
>hate adepts by daylight>visit adept brothels by moonlight
>>537510734In her time anon, Gibu's been dead for decades by GV3.Depending on how long, some of the elderly in the minos projects likely were adept hunters once upon a time and are still telling stories and are disappointed when a grandson is seen with an adept woman.
>>537538781You can also use the rent a girlfriend apps.
We're machine sexual in this general.
I just took like 6 minutes to kill Copen's grandmoms in GG2 SOTD. Their HP bar barely moved and I was allow to infinitely revive and heal.Are bosses supposed to take this long to kill, it's my first time playing a Gal Guardian game.
>>537540028Really?
>>537540243That's his mom and aunt. And yes, those two are hard for a reason.
>>537540246Texan anons get down!
>>537540564Their moveset was easy enough. The only part I would consider bullshit was when they froze the ground. Surely there was a way to melt the ice, like you could mop the oil in the Dragon girl boss fight?
>>537540028Machine, adept, even some species of monstergirls.
>>537540246>not animatedAw, I thought it was the Loli Kami Requiem meme.
>>537540829Oh right, no more spankable brats.
>>537540243>are demons supposed to struggle against demon hunters?Gee, I dunno anon!>grandmomsRude.
>>537541901That pose.
>>537430532unfortunately, records didn't corrupt this timehttps://pastebin.com/j2rRVW1m>>537049335subtle foreshadowing about how you'd rather deal with that SS than play this shit
>>537542726It really is just boomer all the way down, isn't it.
>>537541587They evolved giant butts as a counter to getting spanked.
>>537538781Would prostitution still be a thing? Female adepts are too romantically focused and proactive to bother with a brothel and male adepts... yeahh...
>>537541587The irony is that the first arrest because of a Rias Gremori image.
>>537546450If you can only score with disgusting minos you might as well make money on it.
>>537546450It beats starving to death, doesn't it? And the net happiness of the world would also increase.
>>537546949>Wanting to make a buck from something any other anime stacy that has no bodycount will do for free
>>537547605Not in GV3, and in GV1+2 a relationship with an adept woman would likely get the minos killed.
I really can't think of another time I've had such a sharp 180 in my opinion on a game. Playing the the BN series for the first time and was really enjoying BN2 until... this garbage. I might just quit, I'm so tired of this fucking backtracking already, what the fuck were they even thinking with this section? It's just bullshit filler to pad the runtime of an already acceptably long game.
>>537546450It exists. A lot of human traffickers target adepts. Sistina's backstory features prostitutes and sexual abuse.
Reading through this thread, just how bad is GV2's translation? Should I even bother with it, or are anons just nitpicking and it's a small change here and an omitted line there?
>>537549387Overall it's "okay", but there's parts where the personalities of some characters are noticeably different from the original script and in the secret ending some major info about a character is removed.In particular, Eden is presented as more selfish and egotistical than in the Japanese version.
>>537548823It's a very poorly executed scenario, it feels like it was one of the last things that they made for the game and had to rush it for the release. There are some ways to trim the backtracking a bit by unlocking the netsquare shortcuts before you start the scenario at least.
>>537548823>what the fuck were they even thinking with this section?They were only given 9 months of dev time.
>>537549387It really doesn't fucking matter, we just don't have anything else to discuss. Unless you're REALLY looking for it, or you're a hardcore Gunvolt enthusiast, then you won't have problems with the GV translation. It mostly comes down to how some characters are conveyed in dialogue. It's not like there's an entirely different game hidden behind the localization though, some characters like Zonda just comes off a bit more ambiguous, but the intention pretty much remains the same. So yeah, most of it is nitpicking. For example, you could argue that translating Roro's "Acura-kun" into "Boss" loses an intimate and personal touch, because that's what Mytyl used to call him. And with Mytyl being Roro's primary speaking partner when the she was developing her artificial intelligence, it would be a phrase she would pick up from Mytyl. But then a phrase like "you got it, boss" is also equally as endearing between friends and partners.Yes, it is that fucking pedantic.
>>537549387It's serviceable. You don't need to bother with the fan translation. Actions speak lourder than words, and the characters may speak different but do the same thing in both version. People like making a mountain out of a molehill, especially with the Eden characters, but they're still cultists killing indiscriminately and trying to wipe out humanity because they're racist freaks led by an emotionless psychopath who's stringing them along to steal godhood from another adept. This is what they literally are, by action. Everything else is just unimportant fluff.
>only way to be with your adeptfu and not get tortured to death by other minos is via maid cafes and hostess clubsMaid wars were not supposed to change.>>537545291Well they did several Shin-chan games.
>>537548823I'm glad I started the BN series with BN4. Made me a fan for life.
Surely if I repeat my "Eden is an evil suicide cult" fanfiction one more time it'll be canon.
>>537552542>led by an emotionless psychopath who's stringing them alongThat's one of the impressions the English script gives that isn't there in Japanese.Although even the English intro for Garden 3 spells out Zonda's goal is for all adepts, not merely herself.
>>537549387pretty much all the discrepancies are in characterizations, the story and character beats are, with some exceptions, the exact same between both scripts
>>537549387>just how bad is GV2's translation?It's really bad.>t. knows Japanese, plays Gunvolt in Japanese
>>537553157No it isn't. All that prayer and religious stuff was fake. You can see she's only concerned about herself when she slips up and starts talking about HER future and HER wants and what's good for HER, not adeptkind in Gunvolt's scenario, and her admission that she wants to be a God in Copen's (I'm strongly considering it is basically yes for someone as quippy and condescending as she is).
Why do people keep arguing in good faith with someone that clearly isn't?
>>537553263I remember 2ch meming this line back in the day because it was that bad.
>>537548823it's not that bad if you can prepare beforehand but yeah3's internet on fire will be even worse
>>537540243IIRC, it's tricky to find openings in that fight. Gotta get in close on Shinobu when she's shooting, there's really no other way to rack up damage.You or your weapons might be underleveled too. IIRC it's pretty easy to get into that ice area early.>>537540975>like you could mop the oil in the Dragon girl boss fight?You can what-
>>537553580because that's the purpose of falseflags
>>537549387It's bad, but it's still a good game, so.>>537552542>>537553430>"The translation doesn't matter!">immediately demonstrates why the translation mattersI'm tired of this meme. Get new material.
>>537553190Characters are the story. It's a bit like Shakespeare's play, where you can get a radically different experience by playing characters differently, even if using the exact same script. Like depending on the directing and acting, the Merchant of Venice can either be a tragedy or comedy, either sympathetic or condemnatory to Shylock, and so on, despite using the same script and plot. And if that's just the changes you can get from acting, imagine the differences you can get from dialogue changes and omissions. I'm not saying GV = Shakespeare, but it's a good example of how components of media form a chaotic system, and thoughtlessly varying one variable can massively change how a viewer or player interprets it.
>>537553658
The biggest question of GV2 is how did Cyan cope watching Ouka and GV cuddle at night.
>>537554003Is it? I thought it was the better one out of the elemental chip consuming scenarios since bubblers are piss easy to get by dozens, so it'll be over quickly. In other hand fire at the hospital is annoying and you don't want to spend those good chips.
>>537556176both are tedious but fire is extra annoying because you gotta have exchanger and press on hand for the yoka parts
>>537548823Every BN game has a section like this. Gotta power through it, anon. I think 2 has the worst one, at least. Though 4 is worse overall for having way, way more sections like that.
>>537549387I think GV is better if you don't really pay attention to the story. It's not like the story is all that good. Despite the cute and attractive character designs, they all turn out to be either jump and shoot man for justice or generic evil enemies that serve the same purpose as Frost Walrus or any other generic X maverick you kill.
>>537556497Never considered it an issue desu because at that point of the story most of the cust programs that you'll have without grinding suck.
>>537555410She got used to it
Story matters.
>>537554532>>537553263>>537553190>>537550974>>537551859Would the experience be improved if you were to have the fan translation opened up on your second monitor as you played?
>>537558648To what, read as you go? That sounds like a huge pain in the ass. This is still an action game, anon. Just play the damn thing and re-read the actual TL latter.
>>537558648no that always sucks balls for the overall experiencejust accept the TL sucks and read the proper one after playing
>>537558648If you care about it, yes, definitely, not because of the translation quality, but because these games don't have dialogue logs you can review if you miss something, which is likely to happen, especially in the middle of a boss battle (where most of the talking would be).
what are we doing for all hallows' eve
>>537559520>these games don't have dialogue logsThey do as of the Triangle Edition (or at least the drama CDs do). GV3 did since the first release.
>>537560104Is it every melt time
>>537561241Yeah but you're still dealing with the shitty 8-4 translationalso the Drama CDs got butchered too by Matt's assistant turned localization director>行け!えころちゃん!w そいつを攻撃するっス!>"Go! Ekoro-chan! lol, attack that guy!"For those are are wondering, that is the original line in picrel
>>537560104How about double Mariamelt (PSP+Saturn)
>>537561591but which everyI saw Castlevania: ASS but the reviews look like ass https://romhackplaza.org/romhacks/castlevania-alternate-scarlet-symphony-playstation/>>537562030why dubl
>>537562147Both Saturn and PSP Marias have completely different move sets.
>>537562351sounds terribleare either maria good
Do you let Gibril die from exhaustion, or do you finish her off with a lux? What would GV canonically do?
>>537562681push her stupid hollow head into a pillow and plow her until she's quivering and crab walking for a week afterwards. Watch with satisfaction as her belly grows with his child. Deliver the child and dote on it together with her.Then hit her with a Grand Strizer
>>537562030>PSP
>>537562441One is souped up Rondo Maria and the other is Maria if she fightan.
>>537563262are both times dubl castle
>>537563262is fightan maria as broken as the boss version
they should've had a story beat in BN where you're forced to use a navi chip and the enemy navi actually moves during the timestop to dodge the attack and attack you
>>537557838That's the hardest a pun in Shantae made me laught and Pirates Curse had several great one liner gags.
>>537563595Yeah but it's like Richter mode so there's no major exploration to do.>>537563671A bit jank to use but yes.
>>537563053>Thinking that an anime dad will stay to rise his anime kid Also>Having an adept wife and confiscating all her hair ties so she can't put on the haircut of death
Seeing how many anons here have a thing for female villians, I think it's safe to say that pic related did something to most people's childhood.
>>537565019for some, but for me roll is ugly and also bald
Why did the GV3 villainesses fail?Is it because they were already claimed?
>>537565446They were fucking boring for the most part.
>>537552605>Elise didn't knew what she was getting into when she got into the maidbiz >But boy, does her septima been a blessing in this line of work >Still no minos bf tho
>>537565446>Is it because they were already claimed?Partially, but their backstories are less interesting, and they're missing a lot of the pity elements that the most popular villainess characters have. Villainess characters that people go wild over are the ones that people want to "fix." This is why Isola and Stella weren't as popular. Stella was in a bad situation, but she was still one of the elites of Sumeragi's new world and she didn't have the absolute shit life that the adepts from the first two games had. I think the GV3 villainess designs also don't stack up next to Elise/Gibril/Zonda/Isola/Stella. Finally, Kirin ends up overshadowing all the other females in her game. She's the first heroine who actually has an interesting concept and interactions with the cast. The popularity of the villainesses from the first games correlated with how boring Joule and Quinn's interactions were.>>537565949They have a one-minded obsession with ZED. Ironically, they come off as more cultish than the actual cult.
>>537565019For me it was Queen Ophuica. I thought it would've been better to keep Luna like that.
>>537565446All of them exept the walking heart attack known as Grazie were more bland than the heroine. And Kirin's whole character is that she's a dumb white woman, so the bar wasn't even that high.
>>537566419>Kirin ends up overshadowing all the other females in her game. She's the first heroine who actually has an interesting concept and interactions with the cast. >I like you more as a dog Gunvolt, now give me that knot!>interesting concept and interactions with the cast.
>>537566939>>interesting concept and interactions with the cast.Yeah, the dragon slayers, ZED's groupies, and GV. You're letting your hate of GV3's writing cloud your mind if you think the base convos with Joule and Quinn were better.
>>537567107They were, that's why those are more quoted than most of the GV3 convos.
>>537557838Funny thing is that Matt Bozon stumbled into a very interesing setting and lore.
>>537567319>more quotedFor all of the time people discuss over 8-4 translation, I have not seen a single one going "oh btw Joule/Quinn actually said so and so".
>>537567107Quinn was the perfect woman for Gunvolt, but most people on here don't like her because she's just a normal black haired nice rich girl instead of some anime girl with an evil chuuni personality and cotton candy colored hair like Gibril or Zonda.
GV3 one good thing (the gameplay) will be done better in Majogami anyways.
>>537567704I think you misspelled Kirin
>>537567626>what is the toenail incident >what is the NTR'd ghost convo Also you left Roro out, anon.
>>537566589If it weren't for the fat jokes which wasn't true anyway, Grazie is hardly anymore interesting.>>537567726Shut up Natsume, no one asked.
>>537567858>Gunvolt's perfect woman is a dog fucker glowie
>>537567993Her drama CD track was about how she's too fat to get a boyfriend. And that makes her almost as fun to bully as Gibril.
>>537567726The teleportation is fun as hell but the Score Attack rules are way too strict. There's practically zero margin for error. Like, I bet less than 10% of players have actually heard the songs that play when you reach Yellow fever.
>>537484802Wasn't she meant to be one of the only Eden kids to survive Gunvolt's rampage back in the original draft? That might be why she looks so young.
>>537568571She's not even that fat.
>>537568571Anon please, I actually spent 30 something minutes to listen to them. It's godawful boring as fuck, so much so that I would've welcomed the meme version just because it would be more interesting.Really should've been a profile entry in Dengeki or something.
>>537565446>Is it because they were already claimedGibril has Gunvolt oneitis and people ignore that because they like her that much. So no.
>>537569680That's because you're a minos. To your eyes she's a cutie with slightly chubby thighs thus just adorable. To an adept she's a morbidly obese landwhale.It's like that movie with Jack Black where he sees a fat chick as a super model.Kinda how Elise is gross and frumpy in universe, but even her beta design is so fucking cute I can't bear it.
>>537569808>GV: Elise, Gibril>Copen: Desna, MotherSo which MC do people usually picture Zonda with?
>>537556569Starforce 3 is the only entry between both series that didn't have "that part". Which is part of the reason why its so good.
>>537570384None. Shipping isn't really a thing here.
>>537570165What I'd imagine Elise to look like without septima.
>>537570582Yes, but love, romance, and lust, even if one-sided, is an aspect in GV1/2, even if it's not the main focus.
>>537567726Satsuna doesn't even work the same way as the Arc Chain, the former is just a homing attack that can be interrupted if you get hit with a projectile on the way, while the latter is a straight up teleport. Satsuna is also a lot more limited during boss fights. Not that this is necessarily bad but both games are only similar at a glance, the finer details of their gameplay mechanics is what's important here.
These new maids at the cafe look weird.
>>537570738>gets Septima power up>uses it to slouch and grief in videogames This woman.
>>537570384>So which MC do people usually picture Zonda with?Copen, because their personalities and motivations are oppositive of each other. Fake Zonda is way more flirty to Copen than GV. Zonda seems to empathize/respect Copen and his objective to protect his kind as well, more so than she respects Gunvolt.
>>537571387To be fair, it's not like you can do much with power of resurrection (and petrification for some reason) in real life situation.
>>537567704I like Quinn because she was clearly added mostly to contrast Joule and the female adepts. While there is a bit of unrequited love interest, most of her dialogue is meant to reflect upon Joule (hence why every conversation with Quinn always ends with a spike in Joule's feelings of some kind). She is everything Joule is no longer, she does everything Joule can't do, looking at Quinn makes Joule think of her old self. Which makes Joule jealous, mean, resentful, and deeply conflicted since she knows Quinn is doing nothing wrong. Of course, Quinn is Joule in the way Joule used to be, wishing she could be there for GV in battle fighting alongside him. She is a way to explore what dying and fusing with GV really means for Joule's life or lack there of. So when we finally get to the ending of this game where Joule fuses with Mytly and is reborn as a new flesh and blood being and no memories of GV, it's more a happy ending for her than a sad one. She is no longer chained to GV physically or mentally, she's finally left her cocoon (GV) and been born as the butterfly to fly free as she was always meant to.As a character by herself, Quinn is weak and boring, but as an extension of Joule's characterization and story she is great.
>>537568614I got there without even really aiming for it the first time I played the game. It's not that hard. Staying there, sure, that's probably rough, but.>>537571167Embarrassed Shinobu is a miracle of the universe.
>>537571387>Literal perfect healslut GF >Lol too lazy for sex better sell her to the labs for half of the money needed to buy a PS6 pro
>>537572025Some people ponder why Merak gets no sympathy.
>>537570582>Says this when we will spend the next friday making a gummi ship in the form of a ratty.
>>537570582There are exceptions.
>>537571167>Hottest miko maid is not even the focus
>>537572465Elise deserves better
>>537572176I sympathize with him, though less so than the other characters. I was depressed when I was younger. It wasn't like I was mopey or self-hating, but I was constantly tired and had difficulty concentrating or giving a shit about anything. Merak's childhood was pretty bad. Not as bad as the other adepts, but still enough to mess him up. And he's still just a kid. He sleeps with stuffed animals, in fact. He also has some good traits, like if he feels you've done him a solid, he'll have your back through thick and thin.
>>537572771The chemistry doesn't lie.
>>537572771>betterLike a Greed Snatcher to the face?
>>537572861Black Badge's type is canonically dommes who have a mushy core.
>>537572983Better that than being with a K*rean
>>537573026What'd I just say?
>>537573332That's an evil woman, not a domme with a soft side.
>>537573332That's a sub with a dommy core and a rimjob queen core inside that core.
>>537573434>rimjob queen coreWonder how much Glazen charges for commissions.
>>537573434Close enough.
>>537561832Do localizers not understand that nothing age worse than memes and you're horribly dating your work by including them? GV2 released in '16 and Skyrim jokes had already been stale for years.
>>537573963American localizers. Over here our people did auch a good job that our dub of Drawn Together is considered the best way to watch it.
>>537573963Yes but they still find it funny so sucks for you.
>>537574304Isn't that an English show...?
>>537573963working designs melt
>>537574694Yes, but the shitty translation budget was like 10 times more than what was needed over here so all the characters were VA by same person who did that character in their real shows. Also, some jokes were edited to be more offensive.
