Doorgirl Edition>Latest patch:https://forums.playdeadlock.com/threads/08-18-2025-update.75046/>Steam Page:https://store.steampowered.com/app/1422450/>Where to leave feedback and report bugs:https://forums.playdeadlock.com/>How do I git in?Post your Steam profile and ask. You need to accept a friend request to be invited, so don't be autistic.>How do I git gud?Do the tutorial, get a feel for each hero in sandbox mode, explore public item builds, watch replays. Playing a Hero for the first time will put you into a lower rank game*, so don't worry about it too much.Additional Resources:>Unofficial Wikihttps://deadlocked.wiki/https://liquipedia.net/deadlock/>New Player Guidehttps://docs.google.com/document/d/1lMBE7Nli_sVJ42d-kPHjF3MBaXZdIM46gNJQC_fMGMU/edit>Advanced Movement Guidehttps://docs.google.com/document/d/1yfPHJsMrKcg_8wqa95qu0sOFxRdzKLF_eUWOZX7RLHc>Unofficial Stat Trackerhttps://statlocker.gg/Threadlocked: >>537399471
Did Vyper rape Lash in his sleep?
You wanna know what the problem with this game is? The movement is too fucking complicated so as a result they made every hitbox fuckhuge which combined with how ping dependent everything in the game is makes anything +50 ping suck ass to play in
i have only played gun paige since she released.
>playing mina>enemy team has drifter
This game will never be as big as overwatch or marvel but it will have a good solid russian community propping it up like csgo and dota and that's a good thing
Will the next batch of heroes be just as kino?
Pro Tip for all my Seeker Niggers: You can cancel almost any ability that has a slight delay with Mina's 2 as long as you time it right. Example; Seven's 2.
>denying orbs is ping dependent>instead of getting rid of it because its a retarded system that ruins gun variety they just make it so you cant deny them anymore
>>537456109Post mina winrate.
>>537458756you can goon to mina without ruining other people's games you know
Any other mina mains around?What do you think about her?How are you playing her?I think she's good, not broken, but still decent.And the way I use her is mostly relying on team presence, and never try to fight when I'm alone.When my team is 1v1ing with an enemy, I just jump in from the sky and ult.The enemy is now fucked because they can't do anything but die to me & my team.Her ult is also incredibly good. It can actually kill the enemy from 100-0 if they take damage for the full duration.
>>537458784Russiand and chineseThe worst of both worlds
>>537458959The chinese don't play pc games anymoreDota is completely dead in china and they never touched counter strike
>>537458934gooners are subhuman
>team fights / chases out of base when enemy has rejuv>loseWOw! same story every tikme
>>537458827>The Virgin Billy >The Chad Doorman
>>537459029Counter Strike's population is highest during chink primetimeOnly reason it wasnt more popular is because of crossfire
What denotes early game, mid game, and late game?I'm curious as to when I should shift the focus of my purchases to higher tier items
>>537458827modeler are valve has gotta be a leg guy
>>537458784Steam is getting banned in Russia within a year.
>>537458934i have a positive winrate
>>537459243your character is always facing forward so giving them big tits wouldn't work
>>537459029There are chinese mega whales that love CS
>>537458784deadlock already has a more toxic playerbase than any other online comp game which is an achievement in and of itself
>>537458938I play her like Pocket. She's decent and really fun to play, but I do have some major annoyances about her too
>>537459470clearly you've never played dota
>>537458827PRIESR MOGS
>>537458827Only Doorman was good and Billy was decent
>>537459524i haven't but i have played marvel rivals, siege, league, overwatch, valorant and most other comp games online and deadlock already pulls ahead when it comes to people being unhinged and toxic
>>537458827I wish there was a voiceline of Mina being insecure about being tall.
>first game with drifter>die 6 times during lane>eventually somehow go hunting and get giga fed>winthis guy feels kinda broken
>>537459039gooners are superior genetic stock thougheverbeit
>>537459783he falls apart if the enemy team just deathballs and your team brools which is every game
>>537458827Everyone but mina is super broken.
>>537459251Why? The war is ending soon and Russia ending it from a position of strength will give them leverage to getting other countries to re-invest again. If anything Steam playerbases in Russia will explode in the post-war period.
>>537458938>Any other mina mains around?Yes.>What do you think about her?Not a huge fan of the outfit looks-wise, her kit is alright. I'd really like it if you didn't have to constantly gamble on fights to get your stacks up, because mid to late-game is fucking horrid if you're not hugely ahead. Having 60 stacks at 30+ minutes is miserable. It's also a real shame that most of her utility with her proc is behind the 3rd tier, since I find that the maxed out Rake is basically 99% of her damage output.>How are you playing her?Like an absolute retard. In more specific terms, like an assassin without damage. Just harass the enemy non-stop and when I get the rake I often dash-slide in, hit them and hopefully proc the passive and then dash-slide out. Doesn't matter if the trade is not favourable short-term because you can easily heal with your 1. Repeat until success or abject failure. >and never try to fight when I'm aloneI like to gamble. And like a true gambler I often lose and try my hardest to run away from the gangs demanding I pay up my debts. >Her ult is also incredibly good. I find the damage inconsistent, with a lot of bats just eating shit trying to track an enemy moving in-between terrain (they are still completely visible)
I like every new character except for Mina. Whenever I play Paige I build gun.
>>537459903Couldnt you just split if theyre deadballing
>>537460206then they just come and deathball the lane while your team idles in jungle
>>537459029Aren't league and valorant massive in China?
>>537458827They'll probably be even better.
>>537458827>2025>we are forgotten
Which hero has the most viable options for builds in your opinion bros? I'm thinking it's Viscous myself
>>537460083What would you change her outfit to and how would you buff/rebalance her?
last game I played with drifter i had a soul lead over everyone else by like 20k and was completely raping the enemy team until suddenly they all locked in and would jump me with 3 or more every single time. I dunno if they were playing in a full team stack or just got so mad they actually started strategizing but that SUCKED
>>537460397holliday is good and vyper will look good in the future but is a good concept alreadyi like sinclair but the model feels a bit too simple right nowcalico is just dogshit
>>537458827Mina gets me rock hard every time
>>537460397I genuinely think these guys failed due to their unappealing designs.Besides Holiday, the rest is like, placeholder magician, lizard, default black token representation.Their kit being pretty eh doesn't help either but
>bro if they're deathbrooling just split push>go to split push>the second the enemy deathbrool leaves your team just fucks off to jungle instead of pushing so the deathball flies to you
who's the closest to an irl Mina (in terms of face + haircut, outfit can be whatever)
>>537460497for some reason drifter has been making pubs wake up about targeting carries despite haze being in the game until this point
>>537460614We get it dude you hate niggers
>>537460617tell your team to push waves.you aren't afraid to use voice chat, right?
>>537460517calico's cat thing is cool atlest
Should drifter be played melee?
>>537460759>Guys, push a lane if they're all in green>1/8 Infernus: "shut up"
>>537460759no one uses vc anymore unc this isn't 2005
>>537460016Ivan you are going into a cyber-gulag and the only people who will be allowed to control big online services will be those close to the state.
>>537460765i like the cat stuff alright, hard to hate catsit's the "everything else" that sucks
>>537460759Normies are allergic to advice, they take any suggestions of strategy as a personal insult
>>537460617>>537460759"Let's push yellow!">teammates hovering in jungle, baiting each other because neither wants to take lead
what the fuck am i meant to do when the enemy team has 20 kills already!!!
>>537460438>What would you change her outfitI'd really enjoy a proper dress for one, but changing her knee high boots for something more "classical" would be enough.I understand it doesn't quite fit the aesthetic of the setting or Mina herself, but a man can dream. >you buff/rebalance her?Either give the 2 an offensive aspect or make the 3 give 1 stack on objectives and jungle creeps. Most of my complaints come from the 4 leaving a lot of people on 1 HP because the bat tracking can be absolutely garbage at times. So maybe even give her a more focused 4 instead of the weird cone thing she currently has.
>>537461137it's a bit too early to recycle that post for bait, anon...
>>537461079>fuck it and take the lead for them >attack the tower>a single enemy shows up to defend>they all run home
trophy collector is fucking awesome in pisslow holy shit
>>537459739Is she really though? She just has heels on
>Enemy team always gets Drifter>Enemy team gets Victor 90% of the time>My team gets Mina 90% of the timenigger
I know Warden is getting an updateBut couldn’t they get his VA back already to do the Green lane and hero lines
>>537461273giraffe neck ahh geist
>>537461137>mina player>sluttyfemobyYuck. Mina players are all just different breeds of vile, vile subhuman.
>>537461461nope.avi ahh neck
>>537461414If his VA is busy/expensive they might want to wait to give him a big list of voicelines at once
>>537461414I hope they dont change the VA, I feel like he's iconic
I like pocket but I suck so much ass as himEven when I get a lead it feels like I can't take a 1v1 or anythingMaybe I should just become an Billychud
Why is my damage so low as Victor? Am I stupid buying gun and spirit items?
>>537461729play glockket
>>537461729are you landing barrageyou need to land barrageif you land all 4 barrages you should be able to 1v1 literally any character in the game
>>537461553this is probably it: https://deadlock.vlviewer.com/characters/warden/Warden has no banter/talk with any other characters yet, they probably plan to knock all of it out at once
>>537461740don't buy gun. ALLL in on spirit and sustain greens
>>537461402for me it's>enemy team gets doorman>he is always in your lane
>>537461802Gonna be honest I haven't been using it as much as I shouldIt doesnt feel it does enough to justify using it as an opener especially with how fast some characters are making it so I land one or two in exchange for like a quarter of my health bar
Aside from Abrams, is there ever a reason not to buy active reload?
>>537462059>It doesnt feel it does enough to justify using it as an openerholy shit dude, you have to be joking...it's 24% bonus damageat tier 5 ITS 40% BONUS DAMAGEyou NEED to be landing Barrage >how fast some characters are800 gold for mystic expansion on it.
>>537462134waste of a slot?
>>537462134i mean its kinda good but you probably want your slots for better items
>>537462218I've been using mystic expansion on the frogs
>>537462134the fuck am I gonna burn an item slot on that shit for unless i'm Vyper (MAYBE)
fought a pure gun/green infernus today and it looked good as fuck ngl
>>537461740Yes, go full green and purple
>>537462059Use it while flying and outside falloff range, you miss more but won't take as much damage
>>537453412Unironically a character that can grapple up to roofs and has a glide would be kino in deadlock and feels like it would fit well
Warden is an ivy simp
>>537462348probably a safe thing to put it on, you can't go wrong with putting expansion on any of your abilities. though you should be upgrading into the tier 3 anyways.I can hit all my abilities since by the time I landed all my barrages i'm in and arctic blasted them and get a free ult. but I need to guarantee Barrage to hit early game so that's what I imbue.try to use barrage more, mystic expansion on ult isn't really going to do that much early game given how small it is and if you're in a 1v1 it's not hard to land anyways.
even seven wants that ivy pussy
>>537462059you don't barrage for the damage, you barre for the massive amp
>>537462134if you just bought a better item that person you needed to quick reload to kill would have just died instead.
>>537462538>>537462581>>537462801I shall begin barraging more often and taking the advice here to heartThanks my deadlockas
>come to another country>yap in nipponese>get butthurt when no one understands youYamato is a massive faggot
>>537458387the monetization will go beyond hats, they will sell stuff for the hideoutyou know im right
>>537462921I can promise you you WILL see better returns when you start using it.just earlier I literally 100-0'd a full HP Abrams at like 2k souls since I just landed all my barrages and my entire rotation + cold front.
>>537462134It’s good. Effectively gives you 150% gun damage.
>>537462930She's a samurai. Female one. Which didn't exist. She's got a stupid alien head. Sounds retarded and to top it all off the changed her voice actress only because the original one wasn't actually japanese, so Valve was afraid of "cultural appropriation" bullshit. Original had the most hilarious way of calling McGinnis as "Miku Ginnis" which is why some anons still call her Miku.
>>537462365that's just infernus before every streamer started pushing the flame dash meme build
>>537462930whoa, based geist
Im getting so sick of paige, everytime shes on your team she does nothing in lane while you 1v2, and anytime shes on the enemy team she just makes the most important person on the team unkillable
>>537463148are u not supposed to build for the DoT burn at all then
>>537462930that is a completely valid thing for Yamato to say to a yankee like Holiday
>>537463221What was this site again?
>>537459691Those games all have sanitized chats valve games are a diferent breed
>>537462930agreed, and that's why i love this line
>>537461491What are Doorman players like?
How's gun billy? I've only been playing spirit
Why does Infernus Naruto run during his flame dash?
>>537463370heheheyou see dat shit?
>>537463307https://deadlock.vlviewer.com/
>>537463127did the head character designer for deadlock change or what?compare early dogshit designs like yamato, sinclair or grey talon to anyone from this batch of 6 it's literally night and day difference
>>537463459she's a placeholder from neon prime, dumb dumb.
>>537463338Geist is based for this alonekinda thought Paradox mightve had a line because hes a hardcore academic and would mention he took a few semesters of japanese
I really hate this game.Enemy team pushes our walker, my team pushes them back and I get in from behind to gank.They just all turn onto me, rape me and my team does NOT push and fuck off to farm jungle.
>>537461137are you gonna ritualpost this dogshit every thread like a cuck and shitpost like a tranny because you're triggered?
>>537462930i like that she's kind of a loser with a big head(lol). i'd worry they'd make some japanese lady character all about honour and being polite or some crap despite being a criminal
>>537460397I like Calico's design, personality, and kit.
>>537463127>samuraiNo, retard
>>537463459yamato was originally an alien in neon prime
>>537463459All 3 of those are placeholders. Yamato and Talon are from Neon Prime, and Sinclair is a repurposed early model for Wraith.
this is the funniest thing in this game btw
>>537463127She's yakuza, not samurai.
>>537463757Yes, retard.
>>537463073ah, so at match start screen it will spawn the players in random hideouts to show off their custom items.HIRE ME YOSHI
>>537464195so is yamato going to be evilish?
Lash is great
How's this Mina build? Haven't decided on the buy order.
>>537464404trophy collector is just too situational and expensive for a t3
>>537460397>Magician: half broken character that needs a complete rework>Holliday: a more evil character could not be designed by Hitler himself>Calico: annoying as fuck melee bruiser who plays like Pocket but with the tankiness of Yamato, not fun to play against>Vyper: horribly designed kit, needs a complete reworkThey just pushed these characters out way too soon because people wanted an update.
>>537464278Her whole thing is about avenging her brother and taking control of NY
>>537464404looks quite terrible in many ways. gun items are pointless on her because of the love bites cooldownthe only way you can build mina is full spirit
>yakuza retard who wants to murder everyone to bring her clan back on top or somethingwdym "going to"
>>537464404Bad.Her gun is bad, why would you make a gun build for her?
>>537463981No, retard she is a mobster, stop being retarded
>>537464404>bullet damage on Mina>glass cannon on mina>>>>>>>>>>>>bullet resist shredder>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>trophy collectoroh shit nigga WHAT the FUCK are you doing
>it’s another Mirage goes 0-0 episode
>>537464884>OK>teleports back to spawn at the first sign of aggression
>>537464404Just pick Haze or Wraith or Billy or Drifter if you want to build gun damage
>>537463725I think her design needs work, but it could easily be made good with some small changes.
>>537464404Ring of repick NOW
>>537462930First hint at what Seven did to get arrested
even terrible concepts like Raven having fanbases that seriously want him back shows it's going to be a total shitstorm once Sinclair & Shiv get removed entirely
>>537465367>TuhHawk
>>537464751>holds katana>speaks japanese>has samurai armorit's a samurai retard
>>537465452>even terrible concepts like RavenIn reference to his kit or his character? Because his character looks pretty kino.
>>537464404Is that a website or in game build creator?I can show you my build that works well for me.
Does Billy counter Victor? Had my first double digit death game in forever because I got raped in lane but this Billy and Mina. Didn't help I had the most bot like Paige ever who would just stare at a parried billy then get parried herself
>>537465549PLACEHOLDER MODEL YOU DUNNING KRUGER RETARDDDDDDDDDDDD
>>537465628next thing you'll be saying she's not even a fucking alienshut up retard
>>537465452raven is a great concept though. the relic hunter/secret spy theme gives him a bunch of shit possible for his kit.
>>537465675speak to me like that again and i'm gonna kiss you on the lips, faggot.
>3rd ever game>3rd time trying victor>get absolutely fucked, all confidence i had in the character gone. 0-10is this guy not that noob friendly? i thought the reincarnation thing would be cool and helpful as a noob
>>537465452I completely forgot about Raven.
>>537465887>helpful as a noobehhhhh not quite. you have to take calculated risks when you have ult up, you're a high value pick kinda like dynamo if you just wander around stupidly
>>537465591Probably not. You wanna kite victor moreso than outdpsing him in close range.otoh billy is great at out dpsing chars like haze or bebop who lock themselves in ult and therefore can't parry
>>537464404>16000 soulsThis is all you need to start kicking ass.who can survive a 3k+ damage burst at this point?Especially if the enemy is busy fighting with your team.
>>537465824>speaks moon>is from the moon>lies to everyone she's a mobsterthere I spoonfed you retard
>>537465565>>537465678I mean just his kit, turn rate slow and punishment for facing towards him may work in top down mobas but it really doesn't work here and iirc his 2 and 3 were complete placeholders
>>537465887You have to take certain risks due to the self damage of his aura and regens instead of heals. If you want to try some easier tanks, consider Abrams and Mo and Krill but you can also stick with Victor as well, try watching some youtube vids of how people use him in higher ranks.
so I've basically cut my sensitivity in half over the last day, and melee is easier now too.I am at 1600 dpi and was on 1.9 and now I'm at 0.6, my aim is also improving. idk why I had it so high it was super unstable and harder to track.
>>537460397These designs didn't really bring me back btw, and Calico will forever look like shit unfournately. That design is just unsalvageable, or I guess if she had a cat head like Billy maybe. Hoping Sinclair gets a better model and a better kit.
>Abrams charge someone>hit wall>hold melee>I go through them, melee doesn't contact????????
>>537466084yeah just dont buy anything before that
Seven says NO to being a wagie
>>537466593>seven unironically calling people "wage slave"is he /ourguy/"?
>>537466593https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kb5_xGKJKhkBased McGinnis chasing the money
>>537466440I know you're a bad player, but it's ok, everybody have start from somewhere.
>>537466717Please give us "Meet the" like videos for the heroes Valve.
>>537466782i'm sorry but if you're at a rank where people just stare at your mina ult idk what to say
what the fuck is the counter to dynamo ult
>>537466869>Not getting caught in it >Using Unstoppable when you see the Dynamo warp stone into your entire team>Pinging your teammates to kill the ulting dynamo if you're caught in it
>>537466084if i ever see this in my game im abandoning
>>537466860>He can only think of a scenario to use mina ult when enemy is standing still and staring while doing nothingMy condolences to your lonely brain cell for being alone in your tiny brain.If you're just gonna continue using disingenuous arguments like "Hurr durr, nobody gonna stand still" or "Hurr durr, why are you not buying anything else? You need to show me every steps or I will take everything literally!!", then I will just ignore you.
>>537459524does dota have people consistently ragequit within 5m of the match?
>>537466869Be Victor and have your stink aura up when he ults you.
>>537466852they will, given how insanely popular they were for TF2 they'd be dumb not too.
>>537466979>>Not getting caught in itimpossible when he can hop dash + warp stone
>>537467494have you considered not dry humping your team
>>537467271genuinely yes because that's the only time you'll get your big damage from your ult. maybe if someone's CC'd, but then half the time your ult is just overkillfor every one solokill ult you get in a fight, there are three others that take place somewhere with cover or just indoors so the ult becomes dogshit. that build is good for melting objectives, otherwise the ult has more value as a suppressing aoe silence
>>537466869Just don't get caught in it.
>have shit aim>know how to farm>only having fun on m1 carries when I can rat and outfarm the entire game>try other heroes>trying to ditch rat behavior>have more funI think I'll leave that shit to the overwatch dropouts.
name 1 (one) item you buy in every match and on every character
>>537468013I don't think there is one but I buy fleetfoot on most characters I play.
does victor do anything? the hero seems like ass.weak in lane.weak after lane.literally no clue what the hype is around this guy.
>>537468013cold front
give me the top tier characters right now
>>537468148https://tracklock.gg/heroes
>try drifter>extremely broken>try vyper>she's fucking dogshit and i do nothing all game>try mina>she's fucking dogshit and i do nothing all game>play shiv because i used to be a shiv main>he's fucking dogshit and i do nothing all gamei don't get it. is this what the balance of the game becomes? you either pick the heroes that are good or you lose?
>>537468148Viscous.
>>537468013in my pisslow games i usually have a maxed trophy collector by 12 minutes
>>537468319balance of the game has become*it didn't used to be nearly this bad when i first played
>>537463445>>537468270Unless I'm blind and just missing them these really should be in the thread OP.
>>537468013I usually pick up extra regen and extra spirit at some point on everyone, though I may sell them later if I need slots
>>537468517They should, also someone needs to fix the wiki link kek https://deadlock.wiki/
>>537465549>writes retarded shit>doubles down on retatded shityou are a retard
paige is small>>537458387waow i made op
Why can't Mina control her height while ulting like Ivy...?
>>537458387holy cute
statlocker is better
>>537469031you're wondering why your high damage ultimate doesn't control as well as an ultimate that doesn't deal any damage?
>>537469028I was gonna post the loli mina but I was pretty sure I'd get a hefty ban if I made a thread with that
>>537469028im gumming
>>537469028Also CUTE!!!!>flat sick loli hagOUGHHHHHHHHHHHHH
>>537469031because that'd be good, can't have that for minayou can use the batblink during it though
is knockdown good
here is an alternate version of op thats a lot more dramatic
>>537469073it's not good for finding what builds to use. idk what else you would use one of these websites for.
>>537469125>High damage ultimate*If you hit one target only**If you stacked love bites all game***if they built 0 spirit resistance****if there's no cover anywhere (lol)
if you altfire blink you should go backwards
Am I doing something wrong or do Shiv's daggers don't do any damage at all? I feel like any projectile from any other character deals more damage.
>>537469028Hard Mode: Shota Seven
>>537469370the acme anvil is very good for fliers
victor bros: spirit leech focus, or stuff like torment pulse, cold front, etc?going down the full spirit leech path takes an ungodly amount of farm to come online
>you can increase your fov by modifying gameinfo.gineat.
>Want to play a squishy like Mina or Haze or Vindicta>Get focused out because my team isn't seal team 6 unlike the enemy team>Tankier characters like Warden or Drifter do more damage than me anyways What the fuck is even the point of playing a "glass cannon" when other heroes just do everything while not falling apart like paper
>try Deadlock again after over a year>roll Ivy and get paired with a Bebop>early-game gank comes in and knocks Bebop and myself to almost no health>4 to the rescue>hit the wrong key and drop him before we can get away>die>midway through the match have a Viper dead to rights>miss every shot and she fucks off>lose the matchI genuinely have no idea what I'm doing, holy shit.
>>537469607Get spirit lifesteal early but infuser only after torment pulse and other helpful shit. No reason to rush infuser if you can't do anything besides take damage.
>>537469372very nice
>>537469641Invite alpha please understand
>>537469641skill issue.
>>537469460>Test in the sandbox>all bats lock in and hit the target without missing>Test in a bot match>about 25% of the bats actually hit the targetThis shit is actually broken due to ping or something. It flat out doesn't work properly unless I'm using to hit a building.
>>537460397Calico is great, I like her design too. Holliday is arguably my favorite hero in the game. Even her character I feel is underrated. I love how serious and aggravated she is compared to the rest of the cast.Magician is interesting. I like the idea of Vexing Bolt but I just don't know if it works in a game like Deadlock where everyone is so airborne and it's basically impossible to hit anyone in the air with a bolt.Vyper... lol. I think she's kind of a failed design. Even playing her is just painfully annoying. Having to constantly dash slide just sucks to play. She should have the ability to extend her slides instead of having to constantly mash it. It's a shame because I think she has the best character out of the entire game. Every line she has is a riot.
>>537469689have a build? im having trouble narrowing it down.rapid recharge, healing booster, spirit lifesteal, improved spirit, cold front, torment pulse, spirit resilience, some form of speed (usually fleetfoot), mystic vuln, radiant regen all seem to be viable before infuser, and that is way too much shit
>>537469872That's the point, certain heroes require FAR more skillful input only to bring less to the team anyways meanwhile I could just hop on Warden or Drifter and hold W while doing everything
>>537463221Geist is so based.
>>537463221on the other end of the spectrum>kill viscous >i wonder if i could scoop some of him up to make a moisturizer yeah shes fuckin savage
>>537469887It's broken against bots. Yes, actually.
>>537463346if we are stereotyping;>thinks they are 500iq>usually good mechanically but with no macro sense>WILL tunnel vision the fuck out of an enemy and maybe pick up a kill and then get deleted for it>will use ult on a guaranteed dead enemy when it isnt needed 50% of the time>I AM ULTING IM GONNA ULLLLLLLT
>>537469887the bats have travel time
any tips for geist? she looks cool
>>537464278If you read her lines she's actually a real bitch. She really is a cruel crime lord and not some little sissy.
>Doorman ults me>gets stunned mid animation, falls on his ass and diesSorry nigga the Baroness bounced my debit card lmaoooo
>>537470052if you knew how to play warden or drifter effectively you would also be able to play other heroes effectively, and counter those heroes.skill issue.
any advice for this victor buildearly game feels great in lane with extra charge + jumpstart spamlate game feels good with at least 2 of the late game items AND infusereverything else feels like ass and low impact
>>537469984I've only played him 3 times so I might be talking out of my ass, but I'm enjoying this public build (really easy to find it's one of the top ones), it's well annotated.The games always end before I can get most of the crazy shit, but just infuser and EE are crazy good with him.
>>537469028Looks like Oathkeeper is working a little too well.
>0/12 vindictahow do you respond
>>537464362he's so smooth with it
>>537470516get lots of sustain items, leech is her most important core that you should aim for as an early luxury item. reverb on her malice is also broken as fuck. malice is actually her most important skill because it amps damage and stacks, so your goal is to have drawn out fights where between your sustain and malice you get to the point where you just start chunking people with bombs. early on, dont spam her abilities without sufficient healing or you will always be low hp. get warp stone for blink -> swaps. with warp stone she is incredible at taking down "that one dude who is up 20k souls because someone fed"
>>537470916ghost footjob please
Is anyone else experiencing server problems? The game kicks me out sometimes. This wasn't a thing before the update by the way.
>>537470743you have core items in maybe, and junk spred throughout the rest of it, and are missing some other items.just copy somebody else.
>>537470768yeah see this is the problem i have with him - your catogory 2 has 4 tier 3 items and your categories 3 and 4 have ELEVEN TIER FOUR ITEMSaint nobody got the money for that shit
>>537469028Please be around when game is released. Need this as mod for every hero.
>>537470516early lane, use your 1 and 3 to scare opponents over confirming creep kills, you're scary-squishy and your life sacrifice is pretty chunky to startyour base gun is strong and surprisingly accurate, just shoot from a distance and obv try to confirm and deny souls
Anons, please help. Shiv says the Baxter Society has my number and now they keep calling me in the middle of the night asking if I'm a werewolf. I have a lesson plan I need to work on and Marla keeps waking up from their calls so much that I've had to put my phone all the way across the house.
>>537471097>you have some bad things and some good things and some missing things and i am not going to name any of themvery helpful anon and excellent admission that you have no idea and no input
>>537464404Based vampire coomer dragging down the mina winrate singlehandedly.
>>537471138Everything in tier 1 and 2 costs 24k souls and take 10 slots, which is very reasonableGetting 3 tier 4 items from (3) brings the total to 43k souls which is normal endgame net worth
>>537470805i was thinking about this, she would probably overfeed oathkeeper and then join child pageants to mog actual children simply because she can
>>537466717I wonder if McGinnis looks better with her hair down.
>>537465452Shiv is kino though, just change his ult to the version where he turns into a raging monster.
>>537466869Play around him, the ult has a 2 min cooldown and there's an indicator when it's ready. All you have to do is force fights when he doesn't have it and play safe when he has it.
They really need to put time into finishing the characters they already have in the game
>>537468013fortitude
i wanna play abrams. is he still playable if i wanna punch noobs into walls and bully them
>>537471328only half your items are correct. throw it out and start over. you said it yourself, your items are having no impact.
>in game survey>"how powerful is this hero?"Where the hell is the "too strong" option? I swear, they don't actually want you to give real criticism on these things.
>>537464541>>537464585>>537464656>>537464831>>537465108>>537465203How's this? Its not set up in any specific buy order. Comes out to 43,200-44,800 without the optionals.
>>537468013Cold Front easily. I predict they'll remove the spirit resist from this item.Honorable mention to Enchanter's Emblem (if you pair it with Cold Front you get 20% spirit resist) and Battle Vest.
why did they make billy just abrams 2.0
>>537471920this is just an assortment of completely random items man
>>537471920
>>537471920>swap leech with Infuser, maybe have Leech as one of the optionals>drop rapid rounds/burst fire >drop merc mag>personal preference but I prefer stamina mastery over kinetic dash on her >do not sell fortitude for cheat death, just remove cheat death from thatRest is okay, maybe add enchanters emblem somewhere
>>537471929Cold Front and Ench Emblem are both super broken and bought by most everyone, which makes it insane to think we're still in a spirit meta when most heroes are buying a natural ~20% spirit resist.
>>537466084What comes next in the build?
>>537472294leech and lifesteal in general are just bad for heryou sustain with rake, get used to that and it's more than enough
Eat your peas
>use my 3 before dying as warden>fed bitchoto used her ult before and gets caught letting my teammate clean upwarden kinda fun
is roleplay based or cringe
>>537472437Based
>>537472437>1.3k to billy's 1.9k>blaming himludo
>>537472381Rake only heals on kills which is great against troppers but unreliable for teamfights. Also, Infuser at least guarantees she can live through her ult.
>>537471942variety
Does counterspell work on seven ult
>>537472569I know, but building items to lifesteal in fights is just not worth it. You can always dip away, find a camp or wave to rake and then get back in the fight
it's going to be a very sad day when the hero designs are completely fucking ruined by cosmetic items
>>537471920Here's a more useful advice to you than any other retards here can ever give you. Figure out what's your game plan is. How do you plan to play her?What's your play style?And then find out what items strengthen and help you out, or cover the weaknesses in your playstyle. You should always figure out how you're playing the character first before trying to force a item build that just kinda do everything but not really.
>>537471515Shiv looks like the orangutan caveman dandy.Wish I could rock a pompadour like him irl. This shit takes too long to set up everyday sadly.
How tf do you pilot holiday shes too hard
>>537472354Whatever the game need depends on the enemies & situations.But these 3 are the items that can get you online & starts raping the enemies regardless of who they are.Just remember to team up with someone in your team.
>>537472840ANVILANVILAVNILANVILANVIL AND THE SEVENMUNKS
>>537473612you gotta shoot real good and roll barrels real good
>leech>bad on Minaenjoy dying when you ult every time
>>537465452>Sinclair and Shiv get removedWhat?
>>537473612before you use barrel, jump (or be airbone in some way) then as soon as you use the ability punch in the direction of the enemy gamers
>>537471894read nigga read
You can parry a tower?!
>>537474302I see "Too weak" and "Great!"
you should not be able to pause the game by yourself btw
I wish drifter wasn't so strong. I love playing this sneaky killer role, its why I liked fathom from hero labs so much. But now due to large amounts of (understandable) whining, he's going to get nerfed straight into the dirt and become useless.
We need another minion/pet character.
i've had three games in a row without drifter on either team and it's been about twice as fun to play
Thing about Drifter is that you unironically do do the sus face irl when you see a lone enemy ripe for rape
isnt glass cannon an insane item on everyone? you lose a meager 100 health and gain 100% more gun damage
>>537475520I don't
>>537475581you're giving up the crazy utility of an active item for itconsider how a good curse or acme anvil can decide a teamfight instantly
>>537475137Hopefully.
>>537475137>Fathomyou now remember......
>>537467354Dota has people willing to spend 40+ minutes griefing the match because someone stole one last hit or someone slightly offended them
>>537472437it's based when it makes the game fun
I know this is gonna sound retarded but maybe rushing ricochet is the move for MinaPretty much everything about her is a downgrade compared to Mirage except for>rake has better sustain than scarabs>love bites drains 1 stamina and has better burst DPS than Djinn's mark (Djinn's has better sustained DPS)>nox nostra is less situational than travelerSo it's very important she's able to successfully proc love bites on as many people as possible as often as possible, and richochet is the best item for applying on-hit to a large crowd of enemies
>>537468013sacrificegotta get them souls
>>537475137They could just add "If Drifter dies, he loses +2 stacks" to balance him.
>>537473612The barrels feel so horrible the way they come out
>>537475591>see yummy Paige pushing our green walker>see our team fighting four of theirs on yellow>one of theirs was already dead>I'm invisible, behind her, and fedWho wouldn't be grinning for the stack you're about to recieve?
>>537467354I've had a guy run it down mid because I wouldn't swap lanes with him.
how do people say the 'good game' voicelines at the end
>>537475520>>537476283You are actually mentally ill. I wonder what the stereotype for each character is (besides the obc paige = egirl and mina = gooner).
>>537476362you need to buy the lines in the store
>>537476090The only winning move with Mina is to play Pocket instead. He does everything she wants to but with more health and instead of single-target nukes he deploys AOE nukes.
>>537476425>he doesn't smile while gamingAre you even having fun?
>>537476186Stacks of what?
>>537476186>Drifter>diesshitter
>Whichever team gets Victor wins if the game goes over 30 minsIs there some secret counter to this guy? I buy healbane, spirit burn, decay and it feels like they do nothing since he'll just immediately clear them off with 2>>537476090I tried a game or two of doing split shot + ricochet early. It wasn't very effective since love bites doesn't do enough damage without building spirit (it's got 1.5x scaling on the proc). I did end up with like +200 bats, but her ult could still only barely finish off 1 person late game
What do you do with your extra souls after buying everything in ultra late game?
>>537476556you get permanent +5% weapon damage for every kill
I understand Billy now.Gun>Spirit.
>>537476468Pocket's about as similar to Mina as Infernus is. She's basically just a worse Mirage with an ult that's technically not totally useless for defending base
Pocket is so oppressive now and I don't even recall him getting any buffs. Affliction is just such a rape ult that just ruins your team even if you get debuff resist.Got destroyed by what must have been a smurf pocket. They had a 20k lead by the 15 minutes mark and were just unbeatable and could teleport away if ever threatened. Silences didn't matter and you just put aids everywhere because his ult has a 25+ metre radius
>>537476450is that where the grandgrant lines are
gun paige is so fricking epic
>>537476425>I wonder what the stereotype for each character isi think that every dynamo player that gets 4+ players in their ult makes some kind of involuntary noise
>>537476745you need to grope 10 mina cosplayers for that one
>>537476867guess i know what my goal is for 2026
>>537474678>You should be at the mercy of the russians on your team if you want to fix a bug only fixable by reloggingKill yourself.
Why is weekend matchmaking so dog shit?
I like Calico because she has a kitty
I like Calico because she has a kitty(vagina)
No one likes Calico.
I fucking hate Victor. Rape victor players. My teammates always just fucking run into his stench aura and kill themselves to him. I hate being pisslow due to new account. I WILL dominate Mina
I think I'm starting to understand more.So if you're like 10k souls ahead, you literally just take less fucking damage from everyone else. I went to kill someone who had only 5% bullet resist with Drifter. Hit em with focus lens, glass cannon and Vamp burst. Barely even half HP.
>>537477907>more items = more damage = faster killIs this your first game that has modifiers? From LoL to Dota 2 to Diablo 2 this has always been true.
>>537478163Not even close to true. More like:>more souls = more boons = fuck ton of free hp = fuck more hp on every vitality purchaseItems are fun (and most importantly) visible. Boons and other invisible forms of power scaling, not so much.
mina's ult needs to be as oppressive as pocket's if she's going to be playable
>>537476539>Are you even having fun?No. I'm not.
How to make vyper extremely based>on kill, gain a stack of +5% slide distanceThere, based
>"support" build on my team>get into a fight with fed enemy>its almost close but I'm losing >"support" shows up>heals me for next to nothing>does no damage>die>"support" gets killed too by the same nearly dead guystop doing support builds. killing the enemy before they can kill you is obviously superior than making the enemy take 20% more time killing you
I wish people would stop calling me gooner for playing mina. I just really like fancy vampires and pressing one ability to execute people.I always gravitate towards assassins in vidyas. What's next, calling me a weeb for maining spy?
>>537478661>knock Vyper upWhat now?
Does silence cancel abilities?I mean channeling abilities.Or it's unstoppable unless with stun after the channeling started?
>>537478784Take responsibility
Could an anon add me. Would love to give this a try. Need a competitive itch scratched.Steam ID: AwDootThanks fellas
>>537478564how do you check that?
>>537478784Then you pay for child alimony
>>537478784Be a good father or pay her child support.
>>537478784You make omelettes.
>>537478876Esc -> Click profile icon in upper right.
>>537478876when you press escape in the hideout click your profile pic
>>537478795Silence does not stop abilities currently being channeled. Only stuns and interrupts can, with the interrupts being Curse and GT's Spirit Snare.
>>537478784as lash? she'd like that
An item that has an active, you throw it like a dagger and if it hits, it knocks the enemy hero into the air, doing a small amount of damage. They are debuffed and take bonus damage while airborne.Gives that mechanic where you tap crouch while in air to do a rapid descent some actual usefulness
>>537476793loud farts
Can someone post pov: Ivy stone forms on top of you webm pls? I need it for research purpose.
>>537479878using a stamina to fast fall is always a wasteit should fast fall wayyyyy faster
>>537480170We need a new one of that with the new model.
>>537460397I didnt see a single person play Sinclair.
>>537476425As a gooner, I can personally attest to the fact that you're wrong about Paige players.
I feel like I'm too employed to win at this game most days. fml.
Deciding who buys anvil is like deciding who opens the door in CoD zombies
I really like Doorman's sinister laugh.
I want Austin Powers in the game
>>537478163When did I take about his damage?
>>537470743Rapid Recharge is a trap and I will die on that hill. Complete waste of money until they made it lower the normal CD again.Extra Charge early on is all you need
are they gonna do character voice lines for buying big items like in dota? always felt nice when reaching a milestone item. is that already in? ive only seen a few videos on the game
>>537477907You deal the same amount of damage, but chances are they have a good amount of HP difference between you from the extra boons so it feels like less damage overall.
>>537470743Rapid Recharge is a waste, Healing Tempo is a waste, Colossus is luxury, Fleetfoot isnt necessary, Mercurial Magnum is luxury, Lightning Scroll is a waste, Fortitude is a waste, Berserker is a waste of a slot, Diviner's is a waste of a slot
>>537480170They turned Ivy into a Starbucks barista....
>>537481070You think witchmail would be better late game?
>>537481689Which mail?
How many defensive and counter items should I usually make room for in a build? At which point should I work towards buying said items? I know it depends on a lot of factors, but is there a general rule of "after spending 10k in your core feel free to buy situational shit"?
>>537477907The hero selection literally tells you what stats increase when you gain a boon.
>>537481712Armor of the coven
>>537480241The original artist hates the new model so someone else will have to make it
>>537481689Witchmail is definitely a win harder item that you'd buy in late game when you want to push your advantage. Doesnt help much if youre already behind.
*sniff**lick*
>>537482246Something about this feels off but I can't put my finger on what.
>>537482312her arm and wrist
>>537482543The bottom of her shoes also look weird.
>Transcendent Cooldown doesnt lower the passive cooldown for Escalating ExposureBut whyIt should
>>537481762wut? original model was butt ugly
PSA for all Minafags that actually play the game. The pogo you can do with her 1 actually maintains most of her momentum, so it's really useful for clearing waves and moving or intercepting someone off of the line and tracking.
How do I get good with Vindicta
Is there no way to see someone's spirit and bullet resistance anymore?
>>537482856Download an aimbot.
>>537482312Completely unnatural pose... and she's tip-toeing in high heels
god damn victor's gun sounds annoying. it sounds like someone's banging the bottom of a bucket
I AM GOING TO KILL MYSELF THIS SHIT WAS 40 STRAIGHT MINUTES OF ME CARRYING. Victor's pretty fun.
>>537483067>0-15-0i would be SO madyou literally only need to be in range to get an assist, simply exist, how do they get ZERO
Is Infuser on Victor TRULY necessary?Leech on its own is enough to completely mitigate the self damage.
Why do all characters have infinite ammo while sliding now, that’s Vyper’s thing
>>537483067This is what we call a forced loss. But also you're playing the most busted hero in the game currently so no wonders you performed better than your teammates
what does this do
>>537483165that was always a thing >>537483117I seriously don't get it. Literally no clue what that Ivy was doing man
>>537483149Necessary? No. It's just that another immortality button is pretty nice to have
>>537483271It means that whatever is in that slot will change depending on the state of the game. If a teammate gets a kill, it'll say "Good job!", or "Thank you" if they saved you while you were being attacked on low HP, for example.
>>537483149Also you can buy Mystic Reverb on top of it for extra lifesteal while also turning your 1 into an even stronger nuke
>>537481664How is Healing Tempo a waste on Victor?
>Look up movement guide>Have to actually practice to get a lot of this context based movementNah Imma do my own thing
>>537472437https://files.catbox.moe/1q3lbt.mp4Captcha: WNRGHM
>come back to the game>notice an OBVIOUS smurf>go to report for matchmaking failure>notice there's literally a smurf report optionIs that shit really this common now?
>>537473612I would enjoy holliday so much more if she didn't have the worst recoil in the gameI have all the movement and projectile aim but none of the hitscan aim
Walk me through how I win this game.
>>537483601Because you're spending 5.2k souls on 5% more healing effectiveness, 10% spirit resist and 1.5m/s move speed when you press 2. Buy it only if youre out of slots
>>537483751>nowDota has had anti-smurf campaigns for years now I think. Valve really hates smurfs. This is from late 2023
>>537483893You get better teammates is howCan't win them all, all that matters is you did your best and it was good
>>537483893Stomp your lane early, rotate mid and take their guardian. Stop him from snowballing.
>>537483751smurf is a report option in dota 2, so makes sense it would be in deadlock too.
>>537483924Right, but prior there was no smurf report option.Now there's literally a report option for it.That implies it's extremely common now.
>getting comfortable in bot games>have to learn three heroesFUCKwhat is the low pickrate power team? I don't want to min/max it by queueing [character im actually interestedin/infernus/wraithis it just 3 hotpoo heroes?
>>537483893kill the Grifter.
I played a bunch of games as paige and i really don't get her. She feels like bad Vindicta, where you play almost entirely around your 3, but its just a vindicta tether that doesn't last as long and is harder to hit. The shield and ult are nice in theory but if you're playing with randoms they almost never capitalize on either of them, meaning you're left with using them reactively rather than proactively, and she doesn't fly to get away from danger. All i could think is how i would rather be playing ivy or vindicta instead
I just had a horrible drifter game
>>537484159>I went 8-3 not 26-3
>>537484072Legitimately it's [hero you play]/[2 heroes you don't play]. The game prioritizes characters you've played in the past, so if you put in literal whos on your roster, you're more likely to roll the hero you've played. Exception is if it's a new hero that's hotly contested or someone else in the lobby has similar settings, in which case at least one of you is losing the coin flip.
>>537484072usually you'll get your high priority choice, unless it's one of the new heroes or one of the gun carries.but it's ok take your time and develop a roster of 3.
The best thing about playing Pocket is that no one plays Pocket
>>537484216more like I went 6-12. The enemy team never moved by themselves and if they were by themselves there was ALWAYS someone close by to come to their aide.
>>537484072sinclairmo krillmiracle
Neon Prime's map seemed to be in a more finished state much earlier than Deadlock's current map. I really, really like the look of it, and how it's much darker and purely lit by neon lights. The lanes were color-coded, purple would have purple lights and purple trees and so on.By far the best part about Neon Prime next to smexy alien Haze, but everything else looked like garbage.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xqJsU0iN_UI
why is seven such a dastardly little chud
>>537484471god complex
can't wait for the tourists to get bored again, match quality is dogshit since the update
>>537484413>lanes were color-codedfunny because when I tried to get a dota girl into this game that was her main complaint, radiant and dire have different terrain.I'm like, yeah I guess that's a thing, but I literally never look at the terrain to determine where I am on the map, that's what the mini map is for.she's not very good at dota btw.
>>537484121The dragon hits hard/has charges, and her gun is surprisingly effective at running people down since the bullets are fridge sized, especially with her shield. If you get a push to guardians and can drop minions in a line near it she can bully the fuck out of guardian really early by hitting it and all 4 minions at once. She's a little like Ivy in that she can counter push with dragon with essentially zero risk/effort.When it comes to other players I'm a little lost too, though in team fights you can usually shit damage out pretty wide by just putting dragons where people are going or getting escape paths with her 3.
>>537484590Yeah, just had a game where Drifter went 37-3, fucker dealt 830 damage with 3 auto grazes.
>>537484590>being tourist rank
>>537481680Even furr and monsterfags can't escape the normiefication of designs.
>>537484816settle down there mr archon
What the fuck do I build as Mina to kill people? Her kit is all about running away and kiting but her umbrella is pretty much a melee range which sucks
>get into game as drifter>do dogshit in lane>still win game doing fuck all and getting few bloodscent stacks>get into game as victor>sweat my tits off in lane to mog them>try to hard carry and comm my team to victory (averaging 10+ kills and <3 deaths)>still lose a few of games to elo terrorist supportcucks on my team (mina, paige, doorcuck)the different hero MMR is just so all over the place
Most trans-coded character?
>>537484413interesting how much of deadlock is holdover mechanics and assets from neon prime. it looks like I would've totally enjoyed that game too once they polished it up a bit more.what made them change anyways?
>>537485198Her kit is centered around giving you tools to trade, the escape is often secondary and even then the two extra blinks won't save you late game.
>>537485425the patchwork zombie that hurts itself.
>>5374854253. Paige2. Viscous1. McGinnis (all the top builds are by a tranny)
Is there any way to bring up the watch match menu anywhere in the lobby? I like watching some matches, but having to walk back to the projector room each time is a bit tedious.
>>537485425Magician
>>537485425victor>acks on the zipline>amalgation of gross flesh>still mannish and tall as hell>body insecurity
>>537485425Vindicta or Vyper
>>537484413Deadlock is already gearing for lane by lane theming too now desu
>>537484413Deadlock's map needs a Japantown area
>>537484364That's how you counter Drifter, by using teamwork. I just never get games like that where my team isn't filled with retards.
I cant aim to save my life, I only get kills on R6 using C4 and shit like that. A friend is inviting me to play this game, what hero is made for people who can't aim.
>>537486058One hero entirely controlling the lobby, and being in every single game, is very tiring. That's Victor and Drifter right now. Not any one single hero is enough to 1v1 and kill them, you need a team effort just for those two, and I'm fatigued.
>>537486175Mo & Krill have a generous shotgun and can reliably kill people with their ultimate that hard-locks people down and mauls them to death, if you have the help of a teammate, and I assume you'll have your friend to play with
>>537486175buy split shot and ricochet on paige.
>Shiv's no longer infinitely giga tanky and no longer able to just mindlessly ooga booga like before>nobody plays him now>I like Shiv's aesthetic though and I like annoying people with DoTsHow do you play Shiv now that he doesn't just steamroll everything like old melee Abrams did? Do you just sit back spamming knives until you're either full rage/the enemy is low and finish them off with dash and ult?
has movement tech gone too far?https://youtu.be/xwkaURQhiE0
>>537486325you don't play him, his knives cooldown is way too long to DOT, he's no longer tanky, and his ult is useless and low range. Basically like Vyper he's just completely outclassed by Infernus
what do u even do as mirage, just buy gun shit and shoot people while they're in your tornado?
>>537485425Ivy and Pocket based on the usernames and comms of the people I see playing them.
>>537486694So I just play Drifter (for running around just killing lone people) or Infernus (DoT shit) now? Well that's lame.
When will Valve add another ice related hero to the game?
>>537485425drifter, and by a long mile. He is a mentally ill lunatic that takes his anger out on others and instead of fixing his problems and becoming a better, healthier person, he instead dilutes himself into thinking that he is actually cool and that random bystanders deserve to die and/or suffer.I guess there's a lot in common between drifter fans, 12 year olds and the trannies the can't stop thinking about. Just look at the following replies:
>>537487410IVY DIED SCREAMIN'
I only want to play sinclair and doorman forever
>>537466593>literal living charcoal living in tunnels under NY plotting world domination while calling others wagiesIf I could kneel any harder I would level the earth beneath me
>>537485560>>537485621kys incel freak
>>537487436thanks for proving me right yet again
>>537487589i'll main doorman when they buff his gun or at least give it a teensy bit more ammo
>>537487783His gun is fine, they're never going to give him an actual good gun because his abilities have too much utility to them. You get pretty good base damage and fat bullets that are easy to hit, so it's nice for poking people in lane and that's all it really has to do, you have all the other bullshit to kill people with
>>537487987You're not supposed to win every game, actually you'[re not even supposed to win most of them. If you have a winrate of 55% or higher that already makes you far above average. I already posted this here but i feel it's very important to remember - 40% of the games you play are going to be unwinnable, 40% of them are going to be unlosable. The remaining 20% are the ones where you will make a meaningful difference and those are the ones that are going to determine your overall performance as a player. Just take solace in the fact that you played well, and go to the next game, it's going to be far better for your mental.
If Drifter can claw people from a distance it means he can jerk people off from a distance.Yet he doesn't utilize this ability to distract and confuse people in combat.Curious.
>>537487714had sex earlier today, but thanks for checking in on me.btw, ywnbaw.
>Victor can stay in your spawn for more than a minute without dying >Even anti-heal does nothing>Just being near him can deal upwards of 540 damage per secondSoo when are the nerfs incoming?>inb4 he already was nerfedNerf him again. In fact, just remove him from the game. He lost the voting 4 times in a row.
>>537488812Start making forum posts. That's how I helped get Shiv and McGinnis put into redundancy.
>>537458827 priest, wrecker, trapper, slork and raven kino will save the game
>>537488367This. I always try to take something away from every game, win or lose. There's always room for improvement.
>>537488812I'm convinced the Phreak itself somehow infiltrated the dev team
>>537488812>complaining about victor>when seven, nigfernus, warden, yamato exist in the gamecertified pisslow moment
>>537489131Victor solos all of those.
gun paige ez sweep
>>537489091Phreak would balance the game better than icefraud and troonshi.
>>537489131I can at least play around those niggers, not with Victor. He just fucking runs at you and doesn't fucking die.Oh and if you somehow manage to kill him, he'll just revive full HP whilst dealing a gorillion fucking damage in an AOE and resetting the CD on his abilities.
>Mina's hand is clipping through her parasolThat's annoying.
What are (you)r ideas to fix Mina?
>>537488812Him and Drifter are both still busted. I just looked through my match history and 9/10 games where Victor + Drifter were on the same team, that team won.
>>537486618This can make getting into deadlock for new player even harder. Right now you can at least be ok at shooting and running around. But if advanced movement becomes mandatory, on top of moba mechanics, strats and items, it'll be a daunting task to become a mid lvl player.
we somehow almost lost this game
>>537489651dunno, drifter falls apart to toxic bullets. so does victor. they're both pretty easy to kite and get CC'd hard.
>>537489728>almost lostfucking how? they have nowhere near enough obj damage
The black woman of Valve unoriginality.These are TWO different characters.
>pick someone who's not mina>feel like I just took off the 10 ton weightsgod damn mina is bad
>>537489808We dominated the entire game mostly because Holliday and I carried every single fight but we didnt have enough damage to kill them in their base and Victor can't chase for shit. They ended up winning a few fights in a row and got the Rejuv. Though we fucked them again when they tried to push so I guess it wasnt that close.
>get billy>enemy victor>lose because he counters me just by standing therethis game needs draft or pick or something jesus fuck im tired of playing into my complete counter
People say mina players are big throwers, but I have to say paige players actually do NOTHING. They are merely a win harder hero that makes it slightly annoying for enemies to face with shields and spirit vomit>be drifter>get shat on in lane by haze because I’m ass>literally like 3/6 by 15 minutes>late game>enemy team kills four and rapes our base>mcginnis somehow pushes lane to backdoor shrines/patron>she dies and I am up to solo drop the patron>fucking enemy paige expels all her spirit vomit, cc, melee, and gun damage on me>I lifesteal from patron ignoring her to successfully drop it>only die when their team comes back to gank me>we win the game later by doorman ulting and cursing the hard carry wraithI HATE seeing this fucking supportcuck on my team. It attracts shitters or something because they are so god awfully useless>>537489728example case number 2629585749
>>537490169They really need to implement a timer and cooldown on his aura, it's a massive zoning tool that entirely counters CQB heroes
>>537490212gun paige goes beast mode its just idiots that think she's supposed to be played as a support bot
>>537490280im just not playing any melee heroes until he is nerfed into the ground, it's unplayable
>>537490169healbane, spirit res. you're a front-liner reliant on your combo to do stuff, both slot in your loadout easily
>>537489728I did get to try E-Shift on Victor this game though and im very happy with it. Feels like a core item for sure, super versatile.
>>537490417yeah i got both of those, he still chunked me and outhealed me by again, just existing
Does Pocket counter Victor?
>>537490510yes
>Mina has stupid high pickrate despite being complete dogshit>Yoshi is seeing all this data trickle inIts actually so over for this game lmaoHope you retards like goonbait from now on
>>537490489have you ever thought that maybe you are just bad at billy
>>537490595yes, we do. you stupid or something?
>>537490489if none of your gun carries had toxic bullets you can probably blame them, when I play abrams victor falls apart to shoulder stun -> toxic bullet blasts pretty hard
>>537490417>Healbanethis is a temporary effect that is only applied through spirit damage. Billy has cooldowns for all his spirit stuff, and zero sustain spirit abilities such as Seven's power surge. Victor has a built-in debuff remover. Furthermore, Victor can just build in anti-heal himself, however he has a constant stream of spirit damage.
I could be mistaken here, considering most of the Victors I've played against are just bad, but is slowing bullets/mystic slow, inhibitor/healbane, and maybe toxic bullets not all valid hard counters to a Victor? That, or just silencing him in whatever manner so he can't actually use his heals and is stuck with his useless gun temporarily, but still.
>>537490740it's a team game and billy's entire strength is knocking them up and around while their carry doubles up on them. I'm not talking solo situations.
>>537490595>Hope you retards like goonbait from now onI do in fact like goonbaitNext female hero NEEDS a high cut leotard with thick thighs and ass. pls yoshi
Why is Calico DEI when Wraith isnt?
>>537486821I have literally never seen a tranny name on pocket because I am always playing pocket
>all cumlow shutters keep crying about victor aoe>strangely, all trackers see his winrate drop with increase in MMR especially at ascendant It’s like when they cried about haze or vyper
Haze redesign when>>537490949Because Wraith is just a white woman with brown skin
>Buy Curse>Win game for freeWonder why nobody else in my lobbies does this
Flopping tranny deadcock.
Who's his favorite class?
>>537473801>6400 do nothing
>>537491094Niggers like you were saying the same about Shiv, about how he had a low winrate and therefore was fine, and Yoshi still nuked him and made a joke about it on the discord for it too.
>>537491323What are the chances that Gabe has even played Deadlock yet
>>537488367My winrate is 45%
I will now refuse to play your game. At least Drifter has the excuse of being a new hero, how long have Warden and Seven been good now?
>>537491493busy with discovering atlantis, but I think he'd give it a shot eventually. probably a tanky hero or maybe pocket
>>537483794Try spam-clicking m1 instead of holding it down. Helps my aim a bit
>>537491493Deadlock will be the first vidya played at the bottom of Mariana trench, that's why he is building a submarine.
>>537491549>drifter has the same amount of total games as wardenlmao people are abusing drifter that character so hard. and yet rank is supposed to mean something.
>>537491640Why is he so red?
>>537491723drifter's actually pretty fun thobeit. but he gets kekked hard by CC into toxic bullets/healbane combo, I don't think he's that strong, you just need a tanky friend nearby to counter gank
>>537491539I'm Archon and i have a 47% winrate, it doesn't matter that much for rank progression. Again, if you have a 55% winrate you're probablly ascendant or eternus. You're simply not supposed to win most of your games unless you're absurdly good, that's how zero-sum competitive games are structured.
i hope this pocket sees his mom raped in front of him while she slowly bleeds out
>>537490595Thank god Mina was a success. I can only hope we get a second young vampire hottie (this time one that's actually a european pls icefraud).
>>537469028Handle name?
>>537488583Cause he's not gay.
>>537491868Are you new to the game? How do you manage to deal so little damage in 26 minutes? Did you give up playing by the 5 minute mark???? Genuinely the lowest number I've ever seen. All you have to do is hold M1 dude, ammo is unlimited. Also your match ID is still visible on the top right so I could just track your match down.
>Get 1 shot by a Lash going spirit >Literally less than 1 second from full to 0>He's still tankier than my whole teamCool design.Cool design.
>>537482312broken arm and wrist posing, artist needed to take a reference pic
>>537492278yeah lash is kinda retarded. if the enemy lash is the carry you need to counter build
how do I change my server? I'm tired of queuing up with brazilian niggers
>>537491925Settle down 2hufagWe already have two fucking vampsDont get greedy
>>537492278Playing Mina or something? Lash is entirely useless in damage against anything but squishy non-armored heroes by minute 20. He becomes an ultbot by that mark, and then has to rely on teammates to actually finish the work. Keep in mind that he relies on cooldowns to do damage and is a sitting duck once his flog and stomp are gone, his gun sucks and he has to run away and wait for them to be back AND THEN he has to set up to be as high as possible to do any damage. Spirit armor entirely cucks that character's damage potential forever because unlike someone like Pocket his gun damage is terrible.
>>537490640try playing billy into a good victor retard
I hope my demonic wife Cadence is in the next batch of heroes.
>>537470743i like surge of power + radiant regen before healing tempo if you're trying to speedmax
>>537492681sorry but they had to delete her to make space for skyrunner
>>537458827>Billy>Mina>Paige>'''''kino''''At least Doorman and Drifter are decent, Vicotr is acceptable
>>537492469Drifter does not fit my request, he's an ugly spic goblino.I want another white/white-passing vampire to play, not a mystery meat mutt.
>>537460397All of them need a remodel, they are either unfinished, ugly or look like and NPC
>YOU>CAN'T>KILL ME
>>537459251Hope so>>537459085Kekd>>537459691So you have played games full of passive agressive manchildren and got lobotomosed into liking it. Use mute button retard, if a problem can be solved with it its not a problem. The real niggers are lol imports who quit games then go cry about lost games and surrender button
>>537483751holywe NEED a fem werewolf in this game
>>537461491Mina was a mistake
WHEN IS THE NEXT MAJOR PATCH????
>>537493457going off of the space between previous patches, early november
>>537491147boring item
>>537489492give her a cohesive kit for one. Her 1 is fine as an execute, her 2 is fine. Her 3 and 4 are fucking dogshit though.On hit effects are retarded in deadlock as a whole. Fixate, afterburn djinns mark they're all dogshit that are bound to be either useless or broken as fuck, on top of being the most boring ass skills. You can do some cute shit with Mina's 3 by going spirit burn or gun damage but it's just shit. So completely rework it into something not terrible.Her ult is borderline useless. It tickles and the silence is very situational. Lightning scroll might make it a bit better but still ass. Either make it just "a swarm of bats" that's instant so it doesn't expose you for the duration or completely rework it.
Victors heal will heal you more if you use it at lower hp because you're doing less self damage, right? The heal amount is entirely independent of the self damage, correct?
>>537489825My wife Haze
is there a current map of soul boxes?
>>537493678Correct. It scales linearly off of spirit power so an early improved spirit and extra charge makes you damn near invincible in lane.
>>537460868Leaguetroons actually genuinely believe this
>>537463346generally speaking - complete faggots lusting over twinks
>>537491549Warden is the main character and Seven is the main villain, they deserve to be OP
god damn why does the love bites proc deal so much damage in lane now, you get proc'd once and lose a third of your hp
>>537491549atp we can conclude that they are yoshi's mains
>>537493727the only based choice
>>537493801Thanks, I figured that's how it works but my friend is arguing that if you use your stim at like 80% max hp you'll heal more than if you used it at say 20% max hp.
>>537464404Please post thisbuild online and title PRO PLAYER MINA 90% WINRATE BUILD [noname streamer name], I want to see more useless coomers getting wrecked
>>537494080Nah. The lower your HP, the less damage you'll take because of the current life price. If you used it at 80% you'd unironically take more damage than you'd heal.
>>537472354Nothing, because he feeds 0/15 and enemy pushes the throne at min 20>>537471942Big blue with a book > reddit goat, Billy is a waste of slot desu
>streamers openly smurfing>somehow don't get bannedi hate that every game dev has 0 integrity, it's so fucking lame
how do i block a player from ever being my teammate again?
>>537493885so much this fuck mina both literally and figuratively
>>537494528Same
pretty funny people lose their minds over drifter and victor when seven has a nearly identical win rate and has been that op for ages
>>537484413DEadcock already tries to do more coloring in lanes to differentiate them. Green bridges on green, yellow lights on yellow. But its not enough as is
>>537490212Paige exists to bait in useless cuck support tourists and lose games. People who know whats up just spam her aoe nukes
>only place you can report cheaters is on the official discord>you can only generate one link to the server everI hate discord and I hate every server being run by the height of incompetence
Hello frens, I am new and want to play the vampire guy but I never played a moba before. How do I know which lane is the right one for the character I'm playing? Also I see that there is a movement guide in the OP, should I practice what's in there before playing with other people?
>>537494751Warden is way more annoying IMO, at least seven can get anvil'd out of his ult
>>537495190The game puts you in a lane, no need to decide. It'd probably be good for you to get a feel for how the game plays and how the map is laid out with a few bot games just to understand the typical flow of a match.
>>537458676Spirit Paige Supremacy
>>537495224Can’t you anvil warden’s?
>>537495190Lanes dont matter, first you have to practice with bots until you find the hero and build you like. Well that and watch some macro guides on yt, to understand timings and objectives, you'll need this
>>537495441stunning warden does not stop his ult
Man Geist is crazy oppressive in lane
>>537495441He will be stunned but the ult will be active regardless. Unless you stun him while he is channeling, at which point he will just recast it again
>>537495517just stun him before he can ult
>decide to do one late night game>drifter and victor on my team>by 20m they both have 11k souls and the enemy wraith is 24kokay. my mandated losses are here. I won 6 in a row so I guess it was expected.
>>537495517>>537495550There’s been times I’ve been stunned and it ate my ult and gave me the fuck long CD againI think it’s happened in fights against infernus and seven
>worst win rate in the game>highest pick rate in the gamemakes you think
>>537495578I swear, I must have fucked up so bad during the rank testing section of the game that it decided I should never climb.Whenever I get those two busted motherfuckers in my team they feed and don't do shit, oh but when they're on the enemy team they go 20-2 and become fucking unkillable pieces of shit that deal your whole healthbar by just being near them.
the post game stats tracking on Victors healing is bugged as shit?
>>537495253>>537495454Thanks, I saw that there was a bot option so I had planned on playing that for a while first but I'll watch some of the macro guides before that. Should I just pick from the "top daily" public builds in-game, or is there a website I should use?
Nerf Mo NOWWW!!!
>>537495690she's just new
>>537495690If draft is ever happenig I will ban this hoe every game>>537495639I think there was a nerf to his ult, interrupting the channeling puts it on 50% cd
>>537495690MORECUTEGIRLSINCOMING
>>537495817Is that with like 10 games or something?
>>537495852any cute girls in the works/leaked?
>>537495857300
>>537495927priest
>>537495771Literally queue bots, choose a hero and build you like, play it and see if you are having fun. Cont until you are bored of trying new stuff or find something which looks interesting to you.>but what hero do I play?Literally any of them, you will suck regardless, beginner-friendly heroes are a meme
>>537495927Boho might be cute if you like romanian whores.Swan will probably be cute.And succubus? Who knows.
>>537495690>No longer D tier Hell yeah, now my fellow mina bros just have to collectively win 45,584 games in a row without dropping a single one and we'll reach the coveted 50% winrate!
>>537495983Who gave the elf dwarven weaponry?
a small thing but i actually really hope they wont go for the design of the leaked pirate guy. it really doesnt fit the setting and just stretching it even more thin to be generic urban fantasy stuff.make him a sailor dude or new york lighthouse keeper. would fit much much better.
>>537495690permaban all mina spammers
I hope priest is as cool as he seems
>>537496108stop shilling your dogshit mod reddit filth
>>537496143god my monkey brain is so fucking simple. how can a literal small dot beauty mark can have such insane power over me every single time.
my glownigger wife
I like the cat lady, not sure how am I supposed to play her?Do I run between lanes in cat form, break boxes and then flank bomb dudes when they don't expect it?
>>537496339i dont play her but ill never understand how box breaking with the cat is an actual viable main strategy.>cant jump high with the cat>doing the attack animation to break a box stops your momentum completely
>>537495690Explain the appeal of Mina
>>537496424thick asian thighs
>>537468013Boots or stamina probably makes the most sense
>>5374964241That's literally it for me.
>>537460397Every hero in the Filler Four is such a janky piece of shit compared to the Superior Six.>CalicoFiller cat form, filler bomb that doesn't work properly>Sinclair"A turret that shoots where you shoot" doesn't work as an ability in 3D space, needing it to double cast bolt feels janky, he has the league of legends version of Rubik ultimate where it's extremely dumbed down on a long cooldown and has nothing to do with the rest of the hero, and most damningly his voice is shit, he has zero showmanship whereas it should be front and center for a stage magician that names himself The Magnificent>ViperKnife does nothing, bola feels like a random ability, entire hero is a gimmick>HollidayThe barrels have barely any utility aside from just chucking them at enemies with melee, and in that case doormans nuke is like a non jank version of barrel. The headshot is filler and while the bounce pad is a good ability it feels out of place for a cowboy.They should seriously revamp all of these heroes and a lot from the original cast.
>>537496850Calico is a meme and Vyper is a Hotpoo classic.But I think Holliday is legit fantastic.
>>537496850holliday is fun as fuck in her current state, and probably overpowered imo
>>537481250No point. The items will likely change too much.
>>537496850ssssssliding is fun
>>537495690I am genuinely so happy to see this statIt was actually infuriating see the retards in the shitcord and leddit argue that deadlock doesnt need pretty heroes or sex appealValve speaks in data and this tell them everything they need to knowAll the fucking faggots that pretended this shit didnt matter can finqlly shut the fuck up
>>537496850>Holidaypretty much a finished hero.>Vyperconfirmed rework>Sinclairlike 90% of his stuff is a placeholder so confirmed rework>Calico id agree she is a bit of a failed hero. i feel like they had no idea what to do with her and really struggled building a good kit. hopefully will get retouchedthe new six are miles ahead but as everyone already mentioned the batch of the four are just junky neon prime heros that were finished into a playable state just to get their general ideas down at least.
Seven?More like0-7 by 10 minutes
>HollidayOne of the most fun kits in the entire game.>Vyper/SinclairHotpoo heroes they let him have after getting newly hired.>CalicoGET RID OF THIS FUCKING AWFUL HERO ALREADY
>>537497186Baaaased gooner vindicated
>>537493664So you have no actual ideas. Just whining like a bitch. Classic.
>>537495690People are just using her wrong. I'm surprised there's people that would actually use her rake and thought it would be good in any case aside of getting some healing or a quick attack that replace melee.
>>537497186I gravitated towards her for her easy kit and execute, they could've given her kit to literally anybody else and I still would've played them. I feel like at least 40% of the current mina spammers feel the same and that number will only grow once the playerbase stabilises in a month or two.
>>537495990Succubus will be the gacha player magnet. Absolute semen demon.
>>537496424I like the twirl she does when she dashes and her 1 feels niceBut I don't think she'll be replacing my main ViscousMaybe once she's picked less I'll try her again, but right now I'm happy with Viscous
>>537497712her rake is half the characterthe escape is the other half
>>537497898And that's why her win rate is so low.People like these are not using her properly at all.
>Capacitor lets you rip people out of cube by popping it with the lightning bolt activeHAHAHAHA DEATH TO GOO NIGGERS
I had more fun in my first game as Doorman than my best games as Pocket
>>537497006>>537496967I don't deny that holliday is good but there's just some jank clogging up the gears. If you make a new appropriate ability instead of the headshot and reskin the jump pad to like a magical wind spring and make the placement of it a bit less fiddly she would be amazing, definitely the best in that batch
>>537498323Because Pocket is a dogshit character
Which of the female chars is in need of more porn? Thinking of getting a comm or something soon
>>537498463the headshot passive is one of my favorite parts of her kit though, the sound it makes is great and it's thematically appropriate for a revolver wielding sheriff to take pride in their deadeye shots with it
>>537498249then what is the proper way?focusing in lovebites so you can do less dps than every other character? focusing on the ult so you can contribute to one objective a minute after 15 minutes? pretending your shitty little silence is deciding fights the same way a ladh or dynamo would?you blow people up with rake or you're throwing. the reason her winrate is low is 1. her numbers are garbage 2. it's hard to effectively play a kill steal hero who has no health in a game as hectic as deadlock 3. dumbasses think they're too good for the silly umbrella swing and want to be a heckin hyper carry
>>537498532I mean yeah, I only ended up with him because the enemy took PocketSeeing him land his barrages and wombo combo for decent damage while all I had to do was throw bells and keep the enemy stunned for 20 years with all my stuff to do WAY more than him felt roughIt felt wrong... striking down my brother
>>537498594Soloing an objective in .5 seconds is more than contributing I'd say, she has one of the best objective melting ults in the game when built properly
post Lash+Pocket conversations
You all do realize that with Mina's success this means Yamato will become a himecut YAMATO NADESHIKO omega beauty, right?
>>537498546VyperPersonally I would like more Vindicta and Mina and Vindicta and Mina doing lewd things togetherBut I think Vyper, Paradox, and Haze might be the least?Or if you want to get real weod, Nashala
>>537498809it's not a bad way to play her honestly. it's slow to come online and you're basically a dead weight until it does, but it works
>>537498880GOOD
>>537498920Until the very end where she tries that in the pit, flies above, and can't kill patron because she's out of the pit
>>537498553You could probably just give it a special effect that fits with the kit
>>537499029you can dash jump and then ult to be able to hit the patron dummy
just had the most annoying game of all timethis doorman, drifter, and billy just screamed at each other with nasally onions voices all game just raging endlessly. This shiv sucked ass but at least he kept his mouth closednever felt so bad carrying a match before, genuinely wish we had lost
>it's okay if your only contribution to the game is being able to hit buildings goodisn't vyper crazy at this? why does she suck so bad then?
>>537498880She needs to be a spooky himecut YAMATO NADESHIKO
>>537499354because this only works in shitlow
>buy counterspell>don't even get the chance to use it, people stop ulting me afterwardsnice, i guess?
>>537499543pretty good tradeoff tbqh
>>537499215Dude, don't bother. You're talking with a shitter that contributed to mina's low win rate.
>>537499968Nigger, her rake does 6% of the enemy's missing health as damage. If you're not maxing it, you just HAVE to be retarded.>inb4 shitting your pantsNot the anon you were arguing with.
The ecstasy from that Doorman match still hasn't left me I feel so wonderful
>Drifter or Victor just holding W shitting out damage on you while sustaining insane amounts of damage>Warden and Seven ult still deciding entire games while being god tier splitpushersRape Yoshi
>play mina>spend 20 seconds peppering someone with shots while clenching my jaw praying they don't notice and decide to kill me>fly into instant death range>use 4 actives and rake before instantly flying to a rooftop >they had spirit res and survived my mighty 250 damage rake>enemy climbs the roof and the pressure of their attention vaporizes me>play sinclair>set my wife down beside me and casually flick a booger at the skybox>do 1k damage without ever being exposed to danger
I guess I'm a wraith main now because that's the only hero the game ever gives me...
>>537497263>>537497389>CalicoI feel like the hero just doesn't achieve her concept. She is a hero with a cat on her shoulder. But she turns into the cat?I think the cat should be a mobile sentry she can put out to give vision over a big area, but that might unironically be OP so maybe it is better if she just sends the cat moving forwards to scout. Maybe a tuned down version of the sentry duration-wise but anyone in the cat's line of sight gets a debuff to their resists because it is unnerving?Some melee focused claw attack is fine. The bombs are lame, they should probably be smoke bombs so they would synergize with the cat sentry in teamfights. Her ultimate is odd but okay I guess. Maybe the ultimate is a bit too assynergetic with most of her potential builds? What is the point of building her melee when she can't attack in her ultimate.
>>537501051>I think the cat should be a mobile sentryyeah...
>>537501051She should throw the cat at people like the crazy cat lady
JUST GIVE CALICO A CAT HEAD
>>537501113Just make it work like the Grimstroke ghost
>>537501093I know she had that in hero labs, but that was also stupid because then she made a cat statue? Like what for, just make the actual cat do something!Anyway, the cat acting as a totem/small ward for seeing around corners wouls be neat. Smoke bombs would also fit her concept I feel.
>>537501291>minigame where you habe to shoot the cat thats frantically clawing itself across your body funny
>wk in dota>has to go soulring>has to think about what he's doing>not wk in deadlock>can just go in and keep his ult on cooldown>does more weapon dmg than all the old heroesWhy is the overall balance in this game so dogshit compared to dota? Also, the frog need to remove reload items and reworks gun fall and reload speed.
jiggle physics for Lady Geist when?
Overall, icefrog needs to remove so many item and clean up the shop so it looks similar too dota shop. Dota's shop very intuitive the shop in Deadlock looks like it was made by a braindead retard who doesn't play video games.
>[minor subjective personal grievance] needs to change NOW!thank god yoshi is confident enough to ignore most retards
>>537501749>tiny icons of randomly grouped items more intuitive than tabs separated by type and grouped by price tierAny other amazing insights?
>try to play Infernus>feels like I do barely any damage even when I am beaming people>this hero needs Spirit items AND Gun items but also needs Glass Cannon/Lucky Shot to shred people>but if I don't have 2-3 green items I just die cause people actually focus me and build antiheal against me>there's not enough fucking item slots for this monkeypox niggerkin hybrid damage hero when you're the only one fucking doing anything in a given matchDo I just drop the fucking Spirit items and go full gun + whatever defensive items I need on Infernus?
>>537501632wtf are there actual in game nipple bulges like that?
>>537501868It could be better if yoshi had ignored streamers.
>>537501985>Glass Cannon/Lucky Shot to shred peopleyou are playing a meme build and complaining. just go run Infernus and solo carry games
the reason vic is in chronic pain is because he has to carry the whole team on his back every time
>>537501886Yes, the icons in deadlock look also like shit. It's just unintuitive compared to Dota. Don't know why you would defend the terrible in Deadlock.
>spirit build>have to perfectly manage cooldown and use your abilities with perfect timing to get value>gun build>just press M1 I don't know if it's something they can fix, but gun builds never ever having downtime kinda sucks when spirit builds are so vulnerable if they miss like one cooldown, gun builds are just always at 100% efficiency.
>>537484413>3 LanesSo 4 Lanes thing was a short experimental thing to begin with anyways
>>537502176>just play around the 2>gets Mo and Krilled>gets Wraith ult'd>gets Dynamo ult'd>gets Billy ult'd>gets hit by literally anything at all>diesIn what subhuman trench do you get away with running into 5-6 people to apply your burn trail like that?
>>537502209I love how Aghanim's looks so much
>>537502193that was literally me last game i was a Victor who was 30k ahead of everyone else in the match. just didnt have shiv on my team. like actually same numbers.though i lost.
>be billy>gun build with 2-3 green items>constantly punching their high value target>end the game with at most 20-30k dmgam I doing something wrong or is billy just not meant to top damage due to being strictly single target?
>>537502314you literally dont give a fuck about any of those abilities if you do your run+infuser at the very start of the fight because all this action still happens while on the fire.if anything run Infernus is one of the least stun susceptible builds in the game.
>>537502314??what?left click people and apply hit effects. it's not that complicated
>>537502209There's nothing intuitive about dota shop. They didn't even bother to put boots together.
How do I get better at aiming without being a burden on my team by getting better in actual games? And if you say aimlabs I'm going to find out where you live and shit in your mouth.
>>537502209Thanks for proving my point retard
>>537502209they used to be more visually clearit sorta seems like deadlock's artists don't have tard wranglers and are allowed to dp whatever they want
>>537502328Is there MKB in Deadlock?>>537502569>There's nothing intuitive about dota shop.it's way better than deadlocks shop's retard. When they will rework the shop to look more like Dota's shop later, you will look like a retard.
>>537502687Deadlock's shop immediately made sense to me.
how do we buff mina without making her less squishy or more mobile?
>>537502859make her thighs bigger and chest fatter.
>>537502859Fix the fucking 4. Those bats barely fucking work in an actual match.
>>537502859Give her gun base DPS that's 1/2 of other heroes
Yeah, I don't get how to play cat. Still, seems to be a cool char, mb will come back later with better game knowledge. I'll try the slime bro, hope he is tanky.
>>537502859Big floppy futa cock
>>537502859damage upspecifically scaling. building spirit on her feels fucking garbage but she needs it>burst character>does no damage
>>537502956>I'll try the slime bro, hope he is tanky.He's...alright. Haven't played him that much, but I always feel like he doesn't do enough. Cube is funny as fuck though and his 3/slime fist allows you to "rocket jump" if you time it right.
>>537502956Calico's ult is bustedI build around trapping enemies in it (Cold Front, Torment Pulse, Arctic Blast), cooldown reduction, Spirit Snatch and spirit damage items for the burst damage from her cooldowns being reset after ult.
>infernus on enemy team leaves>a trans lash player and his trans ivy friend are vs doorman>still lose the lane>lash doesnt do a single team ult >we actually manage to lose Estrogen and its consequences have been a disaster for the gaming community
>>537502956>pick target>dump all your cooldowns on them>do it again>run away
What the hell was Valve thinking with Victor>Spammable damage spell that scales extremely well. Only limit being it charges on taking damage, which he has two self damage spells and is a frontliner.>Low cooldown self damage and heal WITH charges and purge when maxed.>Fuckhuge damage aura that is also self damage>Has a better Wraith King rez ult that's also a huge aoe stun because fuck you with literally no way to stop it.>On top of all of this he has arguably the best gun in the game.
>>537502214You now have to break crates or kill lane creeps for ammo dropsAlso there are pickups on the map that give you weapons like in all deathmatch games
>>537502687Yeah Deadlock has a MKB-type item in the 4th tier of gun items, though it deals with high armor instead of evasion.
>>537503965>character that you deal with by kiting>has a purge to deal with being slowed and kitedFUCK
>>537498880All they have to do is make her an Onryo with a creepycute face beneath the hair
It's like playing a 3v9Wraith, Ivy and Warden fed Drifter to the point he was 6-shotting me with 4k HP, bullet resilience, bullet vest and while debuffed with juggernaut
>>537502687As a long time dota 2 player I will easily say the shop fucking sucks compared to Deadlock's. The items are all thrown around randomly under vaguely named categories and their icons give zero indication on what they do.The only reason it's any amount of usable is because the players all memorized every single item and just use a guide that cuts out like 80% of the items.
>>537504604where the fuck are all these games where drifter gets fedin every game ive had he gets shutdown in lane and everyone in jungle always has someone nearby to jump drifter
What would be a good time and day to host an inhouse? Tell me at what periods you are available, anons.
>>537504636the organization of dota's shop is worse but the visual clarity of icons is way betterI can quickly navigate to a section in deadlock, but it's a pain to visually locate the item I want
>paradox is good they say>get top damage>no one follows up on my swaps or carbines even when i call them out on mic>losesupport is CBT in this game i swear to god. most of the time i end up with top souls as well BECAUSE PEOPLE JUST LEAVE LANE AND LET THEM PUSH TO BASE
add Baphomet in the gameshe is Billy's dad unironically
>>537505030didnt read.thick, fat, freckled, nerd thighs and tits.
>>537505261>dadbilly is a human tho
>>537502529>>537502539
what's his lore
>>537502586Either just practice or build fucking Split Shot.
Mina is going to have SO MANY fucking skins jesus.
>>537505312Imperial Grand Wizard of the Paranormal KKK
>>537504392>just reapplies the slow with Slowing Bullets/Mystic Slow
Anvil is such a noob stomper holy shit
>>537505312He is a cook in the Ramen Noodle Stand shop we're getting in the next map update. Gives food buffs if you mange to stand near it for 20 sec and slurp up all the noodles.
Haze "only the cunny will survive"
>>537472543>forced to die in a 1v2 while your partner plays like a bitch
>>537505312Isn't that the guy from The Invisibles with teeth for eyes?
anyone keep up with the "pro" scene at all? i know the games not even out yet but theres been some tournaments and some orgs have already signed teams
I tried to draw loli Mina and it looked like a goth Dora so im just going to have to try her again another day lmao
>>537484250Literally where did you get that from
>>537506118wtf post it...
>>537506462Hey that's meI just got a 1 day mute
>>537506352i just think it looks sloppy in the torso area and hair maybe i can fix it, hard to fit so much detail on such a little body
>>537506462Who is raiva
>>537506462I was laning with a pretty decent russian vindicta yesterday, sadly my friend I was playing with was feeding
>>537495727it deducts self damage lil bro
>>537506509UUUUUOOOOOOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH MINA SEXOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>537506509looks like 2017 fanart of Chara from undertale
>>537506509Damn good work dude she looks ****able
>>537506509VAMPIRE BRAT
>>537505164Holy fucking cringe
>>537505164Soul
>>537506509How much to draw her getting gaped
>>537506509Now pan over to the left a lil bit
>>537507183Its just the Paige I posted earlier
>>537506509Nah make the thighs thicker
>>537498880She oughta be a little spooky and serious. She's not a schoolgirl and she shouldn't be.
>>537505164I like the idea but a californian's attempts at writing aggression is so cringe
>>537507226im not on this thread 24/7 post her again
>>537507271Yamato will be a really stoic and serene graceful beauty that becomes a vicious looking monster when she ultsIm laying down my bet right now
>>537506462mad ruskies are calling discord jannies for help, hilarious
>>537507271Based, we have enough pandering characters already, I dont care if this will attract more players if all these players will be dogshit (see mina)
>>537507615you. and anyone here begging for access, can easily go on the official discord real quick there are channels for that.
>>537507615*unzips pants* you better make it worth my while ;)
>>537505312he just can't sleep that easily, anon, leave him alone
>>537507713damn sorry, saw the bulletpoint in thread and didnt think any further, my bad
>>537458387https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jQEw261O_C0Now this is real Deadlock.
>>537507443Scroll up homo
>>537507985i didnt mean it in a derogatory sense. its fine to ask here but i wanted to give you a faster and easier way than hoping for stuff from anons.no need to apologize.
>>537507713You can't join the fucking discord if you don't have the game
So, whats her fucking problem? How you fix this dogshit hero?
>>537508460You dontMina can easily become total cancer if you buff her the wrong way
>>537508460>+100 base hp>+10% base gun dps>+1 stamina>-50% Love Bites cooldownpick one, yoshi
>>537508460I feel like making everything about her so reliant on proccing love bites means that she's overly reliant on enemy mistakes
>>537508460Doesn't Vindicta also have a 45% winrate despite being one of the best heroes by far?
>>537508595Drifter and Victor prove you can have multiple OP bastards in the game without ruining it, now lets bring everyone up to their level
>>537507434Valve is based in seattle
>>537508779>drifter>OPget your team to not go solo, buy knockdown. when drifter shows up use knockdown and your other CC's and kill himwow, drifter doesn't get to play the game because he isn't tanky and he isn't able to ignore CC while having to be right up your ass
>>537508460Wait more than two weeks before buffing new complicated heroes probablyBut if you wanted a buff, make autoattack love bite procs activate on hit spirit effects
>>537508864This applies to literally every hero in the game
>>537508778That's because shitters mememax her scope instead of abusing echo stake
>>537508864*Passively forces you to play defensively by his very existence**Casts darkness and disables half your team for 10 seconds in every team fight**Teleports behind you*Heh, nuttin personell...kid...
>>537508864People really downplay everything strong huh
>drifter is op>victor is op>billy is op but less than the other two>paige is whatever>doorman is whatever but annoying>mina is irredeemable weak dogshit at all ranks including the very top>/vg/ screeches that mina is fine and shouldn't get buffedlol
>>537509068well that's also for mina, shitters buy gun builds instead of learning the way of the spirit build assassin
>>537509252Mina makes my pp the hardest (tied with Paige)
>>537509252Her ult is mad annoying but the cone it fires in seems kinda shitty. They should make it like Death Prophet ult where the bats just fly around and seek out enemies to hit.
>eu server is in stockholm>eu queues are blazingly quick, usually never taking longer than a minute>na queues tend to drag on for a bit longer than thatdeadlock must be INSANELY popular in russia huh
>>537509252This general is full of tanktards and they're eating good this patch that's why, just remember how long this thread has been buck broken by Haze and Vindicta and you start to realize why that is
>>537509019no, other heroes have non-item ways to juke CC or can be tough enough that when fed they can just kind of live while being focus fired for a while. drifter has neither to instead disintegrate your infernus that refuses to stop farming or your e-girl support main who just kind of runs away from him in the middle of the teamfight and gets annihilated because they didn't run towards the rest of the team>>537509112>*Passively forces you to play defensively by his very existence*the meta is already playing defensively, drifter is just a big fuck you to people in low rank games that didn't get the memo. drifter's ult making 2 people have a hard time seeing is objectively way worse then all the ults that hard CC or just outright kill half your team.
>>537509427EU has servers in England and Spain too unless they removed those
>>537509427Yuropoor here (France), there's tons and tons of Russians in my games and this is only counting the ones that speak Russian in voice or in text, if you count the ones that speak English it's even higher.
>>537509252I dont care if Mina is fine or not, i hope she and every brown retard who plays her get deleted from the game.Actually no nvm, I'd rather have Paige deleted, her players are way worse
>>537508778Her only good ability is Stake. Sniping is limited by the map having too many obstacles. The damage and fire rate of Sniping is also too low.
>>537509506>EU has servers in England and Spain too unless they removed those
>pee pee poo poo drifter is op>pee pee poo poo mina is always losingyaeh, right
>>537509665>shit drifter player on your team that did nothing>shit mina character on the enemy team that did nothing and got carriedwhat's the issue here?
>>537509665You're not supposed to post that
>>537509665Paige carried
>>537509620>The DeadlockHoly ESL.I just checked in game and no, the England, France and Spain servers are still up. The server that is used when there's an excess of Russians in the match is in Finland by the way (which is why MikaelS was often playing with 1ms of ping and denying everything)
how do i play victor, is he hard to play?t. billy/mina/paige player
nothing like aoeing the entire enemy team to death
>>537509665Ivy carried.
>>537509665>2/11 hoe gets carriedWhat are we supposed to see here?
Havent read dlg or played in months. Whats everyones opinions of the new characters? I like to play Billy a lot, but he seems weak. You really need a lot of items to get online with your movement, damage, etc. His reload speed is horrendously bad. But his moveset is the shit, rush people down, fuck them up, and leave on your own terms or ult them to force them to fight more. Victor is such a faggot to play against if he has ult up. Has nearly 2 full life bars and comes back with no debuffs or anything. Dog shit character.
>>537509880Uh, yeah that's what her 4 does
>>537509816>I just checked in gamehow do you check all the servers ingame?
>>537509852He is only hard to play if you're bad at knowing the limits of your own hero and the heroes you're playing against just like any of the other front liners in the game
>>537509486>All the ults that hard CCdarkness is guaranteed 3 hits from massive range and for a massive duration. Are you going to teamfight when you have no clue what's going on? I bet refresher + duration would be a genuinely good build. For big disables can't think of any ultimates that are better other than lashs, maybe billys. Singularity is way to easy to play around.
>>537509908>still better than Drifter
>>537509967Just open a custom lobby and look through all of the available servers you can select. The server used in the game depends on where is best for most of the people in the game which is why lobbies with Russians will give me 30-40 ping but lobbies with actual Euros will be more like 10-20
>>537509620swedish win
>>537509943>BillyFun but if the enemy team are melee pros youre kinda fucked, if not you can be very strong>MinaShes dogshit rn, genuinely not worth playing >PaigeA decent support that can go spirit or gun. Wont do either seriously well but her should and snare are super fucking annoying >DrifterCrazy strong and fun assassin, makes people rage. Might get farmed in lane if against long range heros and your partner doesnt compensate>VictorCrazy strong and fun sustain tank, makes people rage. Your laning kinda sucks for the first ~5 minutes when all you have is your nailgun and your aura gets you killed
>>537509997Drifter has 2 more kills against stronger enemies with 10k lower net worth.
>>537509943>The good: Doorman>The bad: Drifter, Victor>The ugly: everyone else
have devs said when we will be able to queue the new heroes freely?
>>537509985>darkness is guaranteed 3 hits it's 2, +1 if you max it out when his non ult moves are all hugely buffed when getting the last upgrade>For big disables can't think of any ultimates that are better other than lashs, maybe billys.exactly, why the fuck would you spend all your level ups and item slots on maxing his ult at the expense of your ability to kill people when you could just play someone with an ult that already does better without the investment
>>537510118oh yeah>DoormanGood in lane, needs some serious gigabrain tactics to be useful in late game when people will tank your bells and either counterspell or your ult or just leave asap with spellbreaker
>>537510138See assists and DMG. Kills are equal to assists, two more last hits mean nothing
>>537510319wheres heavy
>>537510357>touched a few more enemy in team fights because of aoe
>>537510252Because if you already have lash then now you have the two best ultimates.>Maxxing out his ultIt's 66% as good without level 3 and you don't need to rush it asap, and refresher would be the only item that's solely dedicated to the ultimate, improved duration would maybe work for a spirit build with your 2.
>>537510338Doorman just needs his doors to function flawlessly like in portal, it's so awkward to place them now that the hero is barely worth queuing but if that's fixed he's fucking incredible.
>ally lane partner is a literal retard that doesn't fight and just stands still shooting at things just to get ult'd by Doorman 5 times and then die>rest of the team is feeding and playing like shit too>nobody contests urn and actively refuse to do anything but sit in lane and hit troopers cause they're clearly the kind of retards that just wait for someone else to 20-0 carry them to wins they straight up don't deserve>I've been getting these literal oxygen thieving retards for 5 games in a row nowAaaaaaaaand that's an abandon, I'm fucking done. None of the new heroes are good or interesting. Playerbase is still full of terminally retarded brown incestbabies and it's unplayable outside of 6-stacking just like Dota cause matchmaking blatantly forces this shit on purpose. Game's gonna go back to being dead within 1-2 months as it should be.
>>537510714>a spirit build with your 2.why the hell would you go spirit build on drifter, you buy boundless spirit and your 2 does an entire extra 1% of their max hp/tick
Will they ever add character that eats you in the game?
How much is each one of these bars? 100? 80? 150?
>>537511254Vorefags go away
Where did my Pocket go?>Suspiciously Pocket shaped Mo
>>537511342100 each i believe
I'm afraid I'm becoming more and more gun pilled, it feels good to retain 100% power at all time without having to worry about cooldowns.
I know there's already several vampires in the game, but I hope one day Valve adds one that's actually a good person that shows restrain and just wants to cure their vampirism, only harming people who deserve it. Like an empathic tragic hero.I know a werewolf could also fit the mold but they already have 3 evil vampires (if you count Geist), so I want to see them tackle the other side of the spectrum.
>>537510983>Aaaaaaaaand that's an abandonLow prio q working as intended, suffer more retard
>>537511537Who has the most gun?
>>537511629>Mina>evilshe's an asshole, but she's never murdered or wronged anyone as far as we know
>occult setting>no alchemist
>>537511629Yeah I hope theres a cool good guy vampire that just wants to find a cure for diseases, a cure for diseases like aids
>>537511802>Low prio q working as intended, suffer more retardNot how it works, you literal cock gurgling retard. I haven't abandoned once in over 100 games. It's just matchmaking being forced loss dogshit for no good reason. Can't wait for this shit to die for using this sort of matchmaking since this game will have no sunk cost to rely on to keep people playing it like Dota or League.
>>537511919Warden
>>537511629>>537511929>Good guy vampirePost your mirror's reflection.
>>537511629>empathic tragic heroVictor>another vampWe have two. Time to make someone different, or even better, update old heroes and remove Paige
>>537511919thats literally warden dumbass
>>537511959>Quit game>"Yeah it was dogshit and gonna die anyways"Classic
>>537511959Blah blah blah, yes its MM and awful teammates that got you kicked out of 105 servers, cry more lolkiddy
>>537511839she's a narcissist, that means she doesn't naturally feel empathy towards others, or struggles with it, and doesn't feel remorse for her actions. Does that sound good to you?
>>537512157This game has no sunk cost to keep people putting up with this shit matchmaking, this shit game will be back down to 8k daily players or less again in no time.>>537512176>randomly brings up unrelated schizo shit nobody was even talking about-- obviously assuming I am some specific boogeyman that lives rent free in his headYou slurping won't change the facts of what will happen.
>>537512227just because someones an asshole doesnt mean theyre evilwe dont have evidence mina is going out and killing people
if there's federal infrastructure for vampires (I feel like there plausibly is, you have ads directed towards them) MAYBE mina hasn't done anything extremely evil but if there wasn't she would absolutely be the type to eat few hundred vagrants and not think twice about it over the course of her life. she literally aspires to be lady geist, who is confirmed to constantly murder homeless people to sate oathkeeper
>>537511629There is indeed one more vampire that is just called Vampire in text files.
>>537512461Thats mina
Anybody figured out the counter to Victor yet?I mean a character with a certain build that can 1v1 him and win every single time.A counter that can make him run away instead of running into enemies without giving a single fuck and still have 50/50 chance to kill you.
>>537511994>>537512095wardens an alchemist the same way a cops a gunsmithI want ALCHEMY I want arrogant old niggas doing eldritch science. I want faust and mephisto. I want qin shi huang slinging mercury. I want the philosophers stone. I want transmutation. I want some demonic shit. I want fucked up immortality
>>537512565Yeah so you
Realistically do bot matches serve any purpose?
>>537512227Mina is nice to Victor
>>537512025This is witch hunter bait, don't post your reflections, fellow Anonymouses!
>>537512565my friend speculated capacitor was the best way since it instantly removes the shitloads of buffs he is no doubt pouring onto himself
>we need more vampires!fuck that we need a vampire hunter
>>537512673>says he's hot (but only by midwestern standards)>smack talks his creator while gassing herself up>is apparently eager to have him walk her show90% chance that relationship is toxic as fuck and she ends up using him
>>537512379so you're saying her blood-thirsty lines she says while killing her enemies and salivating at the idea of becoming royalty sounds good to you? Anon, you don't have to defend someone or lower your standards just because you think they look cute.
we need 3 snakes in a trenchcoat in gam
>>537512518Mina is vampirebat. I think the Vampire is the reason why Mina is not called vampire.
>>537512837She wants to be Sire Denathrius SO BAD
>>537512852nah we're doing three goblins in a trenchcoat (it's techies)
>>537512709Warden is gonna be a Van Helsing monster hunter when he gets reworked.
>>537511919What are you talkin about retard? It's right there
>>537512920>three fucking vampiresVALVE YOU NIGGERS STOP
>>537513064you VILL play the VTM moba
5 minutes to make a new thread or I make a thick Ivy thread.
>>537512946Techies is the most lame hero for boring loosers, who don't even like playing vidya games.
>>537513186Do it, you won't.
>>537513186Do it
>>537513186it's for the best
>>537513210i'm just amused by characters who fight in unconventional gimmicky ways and setting a minefield falls into that wheelhouse
>>537512379She wont fuck you bro
>>537513186you've got five minutes to make that thick ivy thread before I add you to the list of OSIC casualties
>>537511046Haven't run the numbers but he has 3 spirit damage abilities, of course it's probably less efficient but hey.
>>537512645>I want faust and mephistoSinclair>I want qin shi huang slinging mercuryWarden>I want the philosophers stone. I want transmutation. I want fucked up immortalityDynamo>I want some demonic shitAbrams, Infernus for the looks, Doorman for the presentation>>537512673In the same way a drunk guy at a bar is nice to any 5/10 within reach yes
>>537513702>>537513702>>537513702
>>537513210We love Techies here.
>>537513816We had an anti-Techies meltdown couple of threads ago tho.
>>537513816No we dont go fuck yourself
>>537509943>His reload speed is horrendously bad.>>537510118>Fun but if the enemy team are melee pros youre kinda fucked, if not you can be very strongI get more use out of gun Billy and just using his melee for proccing lifestrike/refreshing his ammo than explicitly for damage.
>>537512645They should port noita as a hero
>>537502209hmm purple two swords, red two swords, or blue two swords?they swapped these around at one point as well
>>537505164>unimplementeddid they listen?I noticed that his lines weren't nearly as cringe as people were complaining about before release, but I thought they were just really rare
>>537511629isn't that shiv?
Second match in a row I go against a fucking 5-man CLAN, yes, with fucking nametags, while solo queueing. Fucking hell, I'm actually a sacrificial goat.
>>537505164Nothing inherently wrong with the Sinclair one, but yea I'm glad these are gone.
>>537513994>the gun grip isn't a vial of blood
