>UPCOMING TOURNAMENTSNone, you just missed it!>UPCOMING EVENTSArc World Tour 2025-2026: https://www.arcsystemworks.asia/awt2025/ARCREVO in SENZAN 2025 (ALMOST OVER): https://www.youtube.com/@arcsystemworksjapan/live>RESOURCESMain wiki with frame data and information about system mechanics: https://www.dustloop.comPlayer rankings and statistics: http://puddle.farmFighting game glossary: https://glossary.infil.net/Deflect Shield OS tech: https://youtu.be/zmQeJLe_w9U>Replay Uploadershttps://replaytheater.app/?game=strivehttps://replaytheater.app/?game=xrdhttps://replaytheater.app/?game=acpr>/ggg/ APPROVED Strive modsPotato Mod Lite: https://gamebanana.com/mods/299494/Potato Low Spec: https://gamebanana.com/mods/296927/Frame Data Display/Replay Takeover 1.46: https://github.com/WistfulHopes/UE4SSMods/releases/tag/replay-0.2.1>Lucy Starter Guidehttps://youtu.be/UT3Q6cAZgYI>Latest Major Patch 1.48 (August 21st)https://www.guiltygear.com/ggst/en/news/post-2559/>Current Patch 1.48 (August 21st)https://www.guiltygear.com/ggst/en/news/post-2559/>GGST: Dual Rulers TV Animehttps://nyaa.si/view/1979541>Guilty Gear Soundtrackshttps://mega.nz/folder/VRxC2JqT#E0Jfw9f_yEwIV6yFgXnDZw/>Online GGST Tournamentshttps://twitter.com/nafgcto>Xrd/+R/#R/ML Resourceshttps://www.reddit.com/r/Guiltygear/wiki/learngg/https://github.com/YouKnow232/ggxxacpr_overlay/releaseshttps://www.dustloop.com/v/GGXRD-R2/Resourceshttps://github.com/WistfulHopes/ggml_public/releases/tag/v0.2.1State region when making lobbies for the thread and announce in the thread when you close them. You ft10 anyone you make the lobby. Keep training and keep on rockin'!SLASHED: >>537365935
>>537466029eeno pussy on my face
a week since the patch and that fucking troon hasn't updated the frame bar yetI HAVE STUFF TO LAB HURRY THE FUCK UP GODDAMMIT FUCK YOUR SONIC RACING SHADERSi'm so fucking mad
https://youtu.be/b0TCnEnMVwcConstant reminder that Clayton is low key humble af desu. People just capping on him because he's a chad.
>>537466596that's not how you ask for things
>>537466596some training mode plugin is not going to help you get better at the gameplay more matches, that will help you
GOTCHA BITCH
Is there a way to view ranked match history like in SF6?
>>537468751it's under collection
>>537466826i already asked xir once. Xir said xir gonna do it soonish but it's already a week. I don't wanna be rude insisting so i'm just gonna vent here.>>537467203two different things, i have stuff to lab to expand my knowledge
>>537468751
what's your favorite hitbox
>>537470307ino disjointed dick
>>537470307I like nago's 5K because it includes a ballsack hitbox
>>537470307the bane of slayer players
>>537470307
>>537470839Getting DP'd by Lucy...
>>537468887>>537470065ty
>>537470307it's a meme for a reason
Where vod
TOURNEYBROS...this is the vod.https://youtu.be/RUfjeNEiduMhope you enjoyed the tourney
>>537473283I had fun watching, thanks for organizing.
>>537473128Here >>537473283
>>537473283Thank you! You did a great job
>>537473283>unlistedwhy? but thanks for hosting/recording the vod
*safejumps and starts doing strike/throw pressure at you*
So Jack-O is still a better Venom than Venom this patch right?
What are the specific complaints about fighting against HC (from most annoying to minor inconvenience)?>>537473841Venom has better zoning/keepout but if your mean corner pressure/risc buildup yeah jacko is better in that regard (and probably still a better character overall).
>>537474453>What are the specific complaints about fighting against HC (from most annoying to minor inconvenience)?his portals that warps me to the corner.
>>537473675fd, simple as
How come we still have no fucking clue what Unika's theme's lyrics are? I feel like by now we'd usually have at least some non-legally binding Naoki tweets clarifying what the words "sound like"
>>537475172POUND THE GROUND (POUND THE GROUND)
Are there any good 1.48 tierlists (not winners/losers of patch).
>>537474836*236K into RC high/low/throw mix at you*
>checking connection>doesn't match>checking connection>doesn't match>checking connection>doesn't match>checking connection>(...)How come it doesn't just check each player's requirements first instead of wasting everyone's time
>>537474453his backdash (#1 most annoying)If you're cursed, neutral is completely over. it doesn't matter how good you are. He will jump at you with his gun out and there's 0 counter playthe way 2k's lowprofile works, there's not a single frame where he can be hit in recovery that's not lowprofile, in essence, 2k completely warps some matchups, rendering a lot of character's longest poke useless in neutral as he is effectively invincible from them while throwing out a normalwhiff gunshothis ability to uniquely convert off easily off iad back j.syou have to FD against him more than almost any other characterhis dust animation is probably the best in the game
>>537473283>privatefuck
>>537473283I would like to know the ranks of the participants, not to make fun of them or anything I just wanna know the average rank to see if I have a chance of competing next time
>>537475925Look them up and list them
>>537475925Sneed is the best sin player ever
>>537475925the winner of the tournament has been the highest elo player of both ky and sini think the average was probably low plat to challenger
>>537473283Thanks for running this, it was fun to watch. Good commentary from both of you too.
Is it worth it buying the DLC or will 2.0 just inevitably bundle everything together?
>>537476536>challenger
>>537477192If you are on steam just use creamapi. From what I can tell 2.0 just seems like a bigger season 5 but idk man wait and see. The game is not going anywhere.
>>537477685>From what I can tell 2.0 just seems like a bigger season 5Except they've announced less content for it than all other seasons lmao
>>537474453from smallest to largest grievance>he has an advancing normal with big returns>his j.D is a fucked up button on a character like this>a character like this DOES NOT fucking need any vacuum normals>Roll is fundamentally fucking broken as a move since it nullifies it's own counterplay with gun>he can guaranteed trap you into eating curse if he ever makes you block with no real counterplay>there is no proper, real way to interact with his offense beyond trying to feel in your bones what he's gonna go for>safe on whiff
Lucy is an honest neutral based character with high commital buttons
>>537477806wdym? if you mean jam + roboky portraits in the video that is just a teaser, i'm pretty sure we are getting more but there won't be info for quite some time
>>537477948I'm not even sure it's gonna be something they sell it all, or else why not put it on the store immediately like other seasons. Maybe a free update.
>>537478209I am having a little trouble understanding what you are saying.
>>537477857>high committalI still don't get the point balance wise of making the downside of a huge, massive button be that it has a big lingering hurtboxlike, yeah cool punished Lucy's f.S for 40 damage... and can't combo into anything at all or even get into a significantly better range
>>537473283Whens the next tournament
>>5374783152.0 is not a "bigger season 5" but a free update.
>>537478603When I said a bigger season 5 I mean that we are getting new characters/balance changes/reworked and/or new mechanics as per the typical season but it might have more stuff than previous seasons.
>>537478508its like street fighter person A pokes ->person B shimmies outside of that pokes range, punishes, gets 40 damage and is +5 on hit, then B walks forward and some things happen
>>537478969I mean in Street Fighter it would make sense, but also in Street Fighter you wouldn't have a neutral button quite as retarded as this.Here it's just to weird to be. They give her a God button with a weakness that, even if you exploit it, causes completely negligible returns by Strive standards (unless you're playing a character who can get a combo or go into setplay from that far away, which I guess would instantly and automatically make it a way worse matchup for Lucy)
Bridget Unika Elphelt Testament Asuka all have faggot playstyles
>>537480781I don't know who you play but there's like a 90% chance Unika is more honest than your main, just block the fucking DP bro
>>537481560found the Unika faggot
cross ups are physically unblockable on dpad>switch side>because you moved too quickly from low to mid the dpad wobbles and you jump>get hit in prejumpFUCK
>>537478603>2.0>freeit's going to cost 70 dollars bro.
>>537481629what's rattling your ovaries? the game's worst dipper? the fuzzyable high-low mixup? having to hold block if she gets a knockdown?
>>537482320Rising only cost 50 and was likely a much bigger upgrade overall desu
>>537482320if it is anything more than a patch it's dead on arrival, no one is going to pay money for strive again
>>537482603I dunno man I see a lot of Lucy and Unika players online
>>537482737they creampied their machines
>>537482603Who is strive's strongest shill? We need someone to buy one million copies.
i'm so used to playing characters with privileged dust attacks, I didn't think the hitbox on this would be so ass. it's like a stick of butter.
>>537482798call Sajam, tell him to get together the team...
Unika is an honest mid tier who needs to work hard to get in, has no meterless neutral skip and has fucked up matchups against long ranged characters...
>>537478603>>537482603None of the other 2.0 or upgraded versions of Arcsys games were free updates.Xrd Sign to Xrd Rev were different games, Rev -> Rev 2 was a paid upgrade (although very cheap).GG XX -> each upgrade all the way to Accent Core Plus R were all sold as different games afaik.Even their other games, GBVS -> GBVSR is sold as a different game, and P4A to P4AU was a paid DLC (I think it was free for 1 week on launch).Don't remember if BB Chrono Phantasma to Extend were sold as different games or DLC or not.
>>537475925Aside from sneed the highest was 1400s vanquisher to high diamond
how do I learn MUs there's like 30 of you bad guys
>>537484236If God is good we’ll just get the SFV free title update treatment, but this is ArcSys so we are doomed. I don’t think it’ll be THAT expensive, but who knows. Granblue was $50 because they justified it as a whole new game with rollback and Anila jiggling on screen.
>>537484902start with the matchups that make you wanna throw your controller through your screen
2.0 is going to be astral finishers for everyone, maybe a couple of new specials, and 2 new paid chars, calm down niggas
>>537485106that's... everyone except my honest main...
>>537484904Yeah I don't think Strive 2.0 will be expensive at all, unless they excuse the price for Robo-ky and Jam, but even then I don't see it being more than 10 usd>Anila made Versus Rising 50 usdWorth it, she was the only reason I played it.
What if 2.0 takes 9 months but only launches with 2 characters and they wait for EVO 2026 to reveal S5?
>>537484904you guys are talking about gbvs -> gbvsr but 2.0 is looking like when they cut support half way through season 2 of gbvs so instead of season 3 they got vira + avatar and that was it
>>537487372If 2.0 was only chars they wouldn't have made a big announcement about it being 2.0, anon.
>>537487372It sounds to me like that's what you want it to be.
>>537487372if it fails then yeah but if 2.0 succeeds we will for sure be getting more characters even if no more full season passes
>>537487372holy fuck those titsis that a fucking cat
>>537487925no, that's a dragon, they are both dragons
>fight the same people>who coincidentally play the same charactersRanked actually made me uninstall. Good job GGST.
Thinking about learning Happy Chaos. Ain’t tried strive in quite a while. Do I play him like a puppet character with his gun being separate, to cover gaps and do combos?
>>537487372>we get dizzy in a burka while granblue gets thisits not fair
>>537488164Next update will stop you from matching the same opponents instead of being purely connection oriented.
Does Sol really have the highest skill ceiling in +R?
>>537489756>>537487372we don't play that crap here
being punished for playing a rushdown too aggressively is the worst feeling, like what am i supposed to do, zone instead
How often will I ever use Ground Viper in +R? I don't want to mash because it's loud
>>537490045Solniggers just have a big ego and want you to believe they're playing a super hardcore character even though he's the protagonist when they do c.S>f.S>5H>Fafnir>Tyrant Rave
>>537489112>like a puppet characterI feel like he doesn't really play like one, because you don't need to 'control' the gun. It's more like a tool to cover gaps/extend pressure/confirm hits into combos.
>>537490392a lot if you want to be optimal, but iirc you usually want to mash a specific number of hits rather than as many as possible to try to get the clean hit launch
>>537490176ik this post is confusing, so what happens is that my pressure 90% of the time goes like>get oki and do like 3 frame traps>he somehow blocks all of it>try to reestablish pressure>die
>>537489960I can't do it anymore man this game is ass.
>>537489960wait, do you guys also have the problem of the matchmaking throwing you against the same guy over and over again?
>>537494353Sometimes, but once I fight the same person 2-3 times I take note of their ping / connection type and dodge for 1 game to de-sync us. The problem is that they're MM based on connection, and both of you end up in the queue at the same time..
stagger function, ib function, camera function, where are you hiding?
Strive 2.0 will add defensive options bros don't worry!
2 frame window ib that doesn't do anything thank you
>tbag someone>get double perfected the game afteryeah cause i was supposed to hit you once when you are slayer of all characters
>>537498750did you try to grab him
is there any reason to not learn a super high damage char to just fraud everyone in ft2?
>>537498770no i tried to play neutral i think
>>537499024rookie mistake.
>>537497932What defensive options do people want? There's practically everything that was in +R/Xrd: IB, FD, IBFD is new, YRC works more like DAA now, and Deflect Shield. +R has Slashback and Xrd has Blitz but those have basically been replaced by the new mechanics. So what, do people just want more stuff piled on? It's not like this stuff that's been in almost every GG game just works worse in this game.
>>537499076yeah i got annoyed because he gold bursted into backstep pilebunker twice that move shouldve never came back
>>537499159how about we make those useful bro
>>537498879I should just play that horse game instead of strive good thinking
>>537490954You're not presenting them any reason to press, you're not throwing and you aren't stealing turns enough to give them any reason to.
>>537499218How? GG has always been about offense, every character is a rushdown character. So offense is always gonna be much stronger than defense. And these same mechanics worked perfectly for decades in the other games so why should they be changed for no reason now?
>>537499778You troll? IBs are much harder to do in Strive and give you much less reward, they don't change the frame data too, makes IBFD much harder to use too
>>537499598i'd go for throw if they didn't somehow jump and cash the free counter hit the first time i did
>>537500478looks like you got mixed on offense buddy, better mind game next time
>>537499159>R has Slashback and Xrd has Blitz but those have basically been replaced by the new mechanics.what mechanics in Strive play the role that slashback and blitz do in +r or xrd?
>>537500453Sounds like a skill issue. Who cares if they're "harder" to do or not. If they dumb everything down and make it super easy for retards, then all the non-retards will just play a different game.
>>537498879Not really, everyone should go for it.
>>537501169Those games have their unique defensive mechanics and Strive has IBFD and Deflect Shield. They don't work the same but that's because they were designed with Strive in mind, the devs made new stuff that fits this game better.
>>537488164>>537489960>>537492918>>537494353>>537496875Tekken has had this exact same issue since launch and no one complains about it
>>537501920they don't even make plus ob minus anymore little brother
did you boughted?
was farming some 40k diamond player, feeling pretty confiden until i suddenly encountered an actual vanquisher, damn i suck at this game and even if i get vanquisher i don't deserve it
>>537503880this is a gun
>>537503880waiting on the sol and ky weapons
...
>>537503880These look great, would've bought 2 had I had the chance.
>>537504274australian gggers?
if everything millia does is fuzzyable and reactable then how does she win?
>>537506329same reason I can beat millias by pressing c.S > 5H mix fundamentally isn't real
>>537506329by playing people who cant fuzzy
strive 2.0
I think I know why I seethe so much when I play, I think it's because I judge people without any merit, like oh that guy plays like a faggot oh he's a tierwhore and this and that, I think that's because of all the negative interactions I had with high level players back in the day and I feel like if I stop picturing the opponent in my head as an asshole I can just be HAPPIER.
>>537506329You can't fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy block is the simplest answer.
>>537509223I'm the oppositeinstead of thinking of my opponent as the lowest sub protoplasmatic lifeform I've ever encountered, I seething about hiw great I am while I lose
>>537509223On the contrary maybe they are faggots and tierwhores
>>537509503they most likely aren't, I'm an xrdfag and if someone is STILL gigasweating this much about a 15 year old game with a non-existent competitive circle my judgement changes nothing, they can remain miserable
>bnb guide>some combos arent bnbs btw>I wont tell you whichfighting game educational content 2025
>>537511559just watch TY or some other high level gio player and copy what they do
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tpasrb0SHngthis is the best one I have to say
Imma blocking this whack ass mixup
does this thing work off every 6P I connect, like grounded, airborne, etc.?
>>537513197try it in training mode nigga you can control the cpu to jump at you
>>537513471what if there are situations i dont know about.....................................
>>537513654this might sound scary but you need to play the actual game and try out all the things you learned and fix if something doesn't work
>>537513778#uninstalled
>>537513778>noooo please dont lab>just chase the insurmountable shadow of better player's raw hoursa cabal member in the midsteffective practice is how you close the gap and improve
>>537514123but i told him to lab..
>>537514123yes, very good... waste your time hitting a dummy, minimize your time playing matches against real opponents as much as possible
breadly sin
>>537514584sorry, I need to lab my reply confirms
what do you think about asymmetrical universal mechanics? For example the tumble state from xrd, pic related. it's something that every character could use but not to the same degree, another example from the previous titles would be DAAs, every character having his own DAA meant some had great but some had unusable DAAs(rip zaturds and axlgawds). For some non GG examples look at the armor breakers from SFIV or T8, I think Strive suffers from being too uniform, as a result lower tier characters simply don't have the tools they need to shine
>>537515552I don't think 'asymmetric universal mechanics' means what you think it means.
>>537515552is this alt play coperthere's something familiar about this incoherent babble
>>537515552Usually all the bad characters also happened to have the worse DAAs, they never gave a good version of those universal tools to bad characters.
>>537515793DAA is a universal mechanic in Xrd. It fills the same function as YRC in Strive. Some characters have better DAA's than others, diff frame data/hitboxes/etc. What does 'asymmetric universal mechanics' mean?
>>537515552I don't think about them really
the problem why i don't fucking improve in this game is cause i don't understand people decision making or i'm not fast enough to think about it. The second case happens during mirror matches, i know what my char does but i can't formulate a plan around my opponent fast enough. The second case is lack of knowledge of my opponent character but playing 30 fucking character at a high level just to understand how they think is unrealistic so what the fuck am i supposed to do?
>>537517138just b urself
>>537517138learn how to learn
>>537517138Decision making just comes with more experience in the game, look at what your opponent does or wants to do at which distances, also consider what you want to do at what distances.In mirror matches you know what you want to do, so you can expect the same from the opponent, it becomes a matter of who is better at reading the other based on their habits (or you can just gorilla it out if that's what you prefer, but you won't learn much that way).For knowledge of your opponent char you don't need to play their char at high level to know what they do, just learn their most basic mix-ups / defensive options and specials and figure out from there, you don't need to know every char's 2P frame data to know that their 2P will be a fast jab, their 5D will be a dust, their c.S is + on block, etc.>so what the fuck am i supposed to do?Just keep playing and you will learn as long as you're thinking about what's happening, the more you see situations, the more you'll recognize them faster later on.
>>537516856That's not the part I take issue with.
Is this true?
>>537518804true cope
>>537518804Sure whatever
i swear every pot player nowadays just plays the game by turtling in neutral waiting for you to make a misinput instead of knowing how to do a fucking mixup
>>537519576All the ones I play just press random buttons, since if they hit you, you take 5 billion damage but if you hit them they still have 30 more chances to win.
Is Venom good now?
>>537520821no
>>537517138for low - intermediate level the you either condition them with your buttons -> they start trying to counter your buttons -> you counter their counter, or you just look at the situations where they make a lot of mistakes and abuse them as much as you canfor example of a former - you mash strings on block a lot and leave gaps to frametrap, you try to notice if they eat a ch or not, if they don't next time instead of buttons you go for a throw>or i'm not fast enough to think about itIt'll come with time, just stay focused and keep trying to notice how your opponent behaves, it's also important to analyze what happened before you landed/ate a button to understand the situation better
Would unbinding the dash macro be a good way to train my retard brain to not rely so much on backdashing on defense?
>>537521679just remember it's bad, unless you have a specific situation for it, and don't do it>>537517138>>537521349also, sometimes people don't have decision making and just autopilot their favorite buttons, better to stick to safer options in that case if they like doing insane shit like dp on wake up every time instead of playing mind games with them
He can't keep getting away with it...
what's a "whiff gunshot" and why is it OP? new to soive...
>>537522759i thought jack was normal what is that tranny flag
>>537522897Happy Chaos H button is an auto-aimed shot that he can press at any time, even when he misses with any of his other buttons, you can figure out why it is OP if you're not dumb.
>>537522759glad i ragequit on that jack fag the other day, the troon flag means it was deserved
>>537523013loooooooooool
>>537522967That's the bisexual flag bro. Something of a bold declaration that the greasy autist routinely pounds trannys at EVO
LOOK MOM I DID IT AGAIN I DID TWO NORMALS INTO GUNSHOT INTO FOCUS INTO DEUS EX MACHINA, OH MY GOD LOOK I DID IT AGAIN, AND I DID IT AGAIN!! I'M SO GOOD AT THIS GAMEi hope one day i can love someone as much as arc sys loves this retarded character refusing to do something as simple as not allow hc to get a free focus before every fucking wall break
When are they giving Anji back his defining ability?
Haven't touched this game in years. How do I play Slayer?
>>537518804not reallyNA is the best strive region
>>537525162strike/throw like a man
>>537525349no one else is mentally ill enough to think a baby game like s*ive is a serious competitive game, tranny states of america
>>537522967>Strive player>normal>non troon or other element like thatlol.
>>537525684are you ok man
>>537525884the day of the rope is coming troon
Strive isn't a "simple baby game"... it's a fundie heavy anime footsies ludokino.
>>537525684Based
>>537525162mappa hunchy
>>537526103...when played as giovanna
>>537525059sugoi...
Is Ram bad now?
>>537522759didn't the lil nigga that came second tried killing himself by drinking bleach after someone dug up some no-no words on his discord
>>537526346nope, still top tier
>>537526346No BasedCumKing, you can come back to the game
>>537526103I say this and then pick Pot
>>537526167I am a Gio player actually...........
>>537526375yeah
part of the problem with venom is you land a ball hit on someone in the air, so you go for c.S but it only hits once because they are too high up and your 2H whiffs completely so you drop the combo. or you land both hits of c.S and it looks like they are high enough for 2H to only land 1 hit but it actually would have landed 2 hits so you cancelled the 1st hit that doesn't launch them and drop the combothey made other characters easier/more consistent in patches, why not venom?
>>537526394>>537526397yippee
>>537525059this is why strive is considered a kiddie game
>>537527253Because Anji can't flap about like some big gay bird?
god this game is evil, it's crazy how losing one game to bs and thinking "well i'll just get another win and get my 10 points back" turns into an indescribable rage that makes me want to both ragequit and smash everything around me until i am the only one left standing
>>537527378Looks like this little soiver can't comprehend deep, mechanically rich video games.
>>537527378Instead we get the flying tranny bird - Bridget
>>537527446That's every single ranked system tho
>>537527446that's just you man
>>537527657it's me also, except i don't give a shit about points and am filled with rage over the idea of my opponent thinking they are good
>>537527446That's why I don't play ranked, I play the park and get angry about that instead
>>537527526it's way more intense with strive because of actual bs like 6ps and how basically every character has their own bs>>537527657lets see your mental state after fighting a happy chaos that knows how to route into wall break super 100% consistently for 20 minutes
>>537527740do you play soive just to win or because you like iti can't play a fighting game unless i really like the char i'm controlling, otherwise i just get tilted easily
Dix ranked is way more misery-inducing than strive ranked for me
>>537527446some people weren't made for the skinner boxonly you can set yourself free
>>537527885to win of course, none of the characters in this game scratch the itch for me
>>537527978That's because Dix is a misery inducing game
>>537506329
>>537528486
got plugged for the first time in rankedit was a slayer
>>537528152I feel the same
I don't think this character exists. Nobody plays her, she has no actual lore as a character, and I've never actually heard anyone talk about her.
>>537528734>>537528152well theres your problem raging tards, did you even try all the chars
>>537528937I did try all the chars, yes. I'd play one that I liked for a week and wanted to change to someone after that.
Straight people are not allowed to play Strive.
>>537529394that's pretty bigoted sis
>>537528852the problem is that... she is the real bottom 1. on paper she sounds awesome, but once you play her... yeah, too much effort for little gain.
>>537529559She beat me in tournament yesterday fuck you
>>537529656well... you got outstrived.
>>537529559She gives real "one and done" vibes. I know GG is one of the better series at not doing that, but she's gonna end up being the apathetic version of Hsu Hao
If only HOS was Robot Order Sol instead so he'd have a shot at being in Strive. It's weird that the Ky clone gets a pass but the Sol clone doesn't.
>>537531013robo-ky = epic meme points hahaorder sol = too kino for soive trannies...
>>537528852There's been a resurgence now you can get real belligerent with super dog kick.
>>537531013>Sol cloneNani?!
>>537531398Obviously not in how he plays, but Robo-Ky only tangentially played like Ky anyway.
I fucking love Millia's fat arse, bruv.
>>537531798This is fart porn isn't it
>>537531889Absolutely.
>>537529509You can't be bigoted against straight people. Go read some theory.
>>537532751yes you cango read my diary
damn i haven't heard "go educate yourself" in a whilelately it's just straight to calling you a bigot no foreplay or nothing
How are we feeling about ranked so far.
>>537533029I did my placements and stopped. I might jump into it some if I'm in the mood but I'm really not interested in grinding for internet points
>20 minutes of instant failed connections>in ranked...is ranked the exact same as the tower?
utterly autistic peeve but the announcer calling lucy's name completely stands out from the rest of the roster its like they just asked him to telephone in a single take without reminding him of the tone of the rest go listen to it
>>537533128it's matchmaking, you can press play and you will get a match against someone of similar skill, but all you can think of is points
>>537533449Yeah
>searching for an opponent 00:03>checking connection>searching for an opponent 00:03>checking connectionAAAAAAAA LET ME OUT LET ME OUT ITS THE TOWER ALL OVERWHAT WAS THE POINT
>>537533379I was having that issue yesterday and then I realised it put me in the wrong region's servers because I was playing in the east coast parks for last night's tournament.
>>537533029I hate ft2 fraudery. Also. I don't learn muslop.
any padfags able to vouch for these battle beaver custom dpads? I remember sonicfox shilling them years ago for dbfz. idk if my dpad is deteriorating over the years but im noticing a lot more fucked inputs now like jumping when im trying to just hold back or jumping straight up when I'm trying to jump forward for a combo. Apparently these help a lot but I know most custom controller shit is chintsy chinese garbage I just wanna know how long it'll last me
>>537533447It's used to manipulate you into buying the DLC. Ky and Leo are boring. Lucy and Dizzy are new and shiny.
>>537530016daisuke said he wanted to do more story about gold, giovanna, and lastly faust specifically with chronus. kinda weird chronus is still not playable despite how major of a character he was in sign though I guess he’s just a guy
As it stands, venom is like high-mid (emphasis on mid). Once he gets going, he can really lock down anyone with his layered projectile pressure. However, getting to the point of being allowed to do that is harder than ever now that everyone and their dog has buttons that can challenge the space that he wants to set up in addition to vastly superior damage more often than not.That said, there's hardly ever been a character that allows for as much individual playstyle expression, and this adds with his low popularity and ambiguous, freeform nature to make most people clueless as to what they're supposed to do against you.The road's gonna be long, it's gonna be a pain, but the reward is there for learning him.
I'll be sad if they never make Gabriel playable.
>>537534163I remember this company for selling a MILLION DOLLAR CONTROLLER
https://youtu.be/2ByFNdmOKEE?si=8hUlsims3_LoNTwi&t=617gio is gawdlike in story mode
>>537534557LOL
just realized soive 2.0 means new story mode too..........................
>>537534163The problem is never the buttons, it's the silicone pad thing that sits under them and is what wears out over time. Everything else is just preference. You can't trust anyone shilling a product.
>>537506329Genuinely wtf is fuzzy, everytime I try to learn it my brain fries because it's 6 different things at once or something
>>537536056its doing something (blocking high for example), and then doing something else at a different timing (blocking low for example)
Are there any actual pros or top players who play Unika? I don't usually watch replays, I'm just a monkey, but neutral with this bitch feels like a fucking Sisyphean struggle against almost anyone with decent range.
>>537536601You've got a stundipper, a very strong f.s and a fucked up 5H. Put these together. Think just a tiny bit instead of doing airbackdash j.s or airdash j.h over and over.
>>537536056a character's high attack tends to be slower than their low attack, so if you are expecting a high low mix you block low and then switch to a high block after you would have blocked the low attack, then swap back to low after you would've blocked the high attack, or if they are in the air you block high until they are landing then switch to low block to cover both options (jump in attack or empty low, this is the simplest example of fuzzy blocking)
>>537515552I don't think tumble fits this description any more than guard crush
today I tried IBFD'ing and got like 2/100
GGST feels like a complete game after 3 yearsASW did something I never thought they'd do and did a "frustration" sweep of all the little unfair things in the game and made the game a lot less volatile. They nerfed the positive bonus length which is a Godsend. Getting wall broken was basically gg.The wild assault changes are perfect imo, not oppressive but very useful and you can really see the difference each player makes with their WA. Some people don't mind cashing out, some don't use it at all, some only use it for combo extenders, way better than last patch which was a "use or lose" situation with WA.Buffing deflect shield really made defensive mind games worth playing. Now I feel like I didn't lose the game if I block c.s and that there's an array of things I can do to fight back. (Ib and IBFD are viable in certain instances, but can be risky and takes a lot of time to implement in your game while being fairly easy to counter).They tapped down some frustrating character interactions that were unfair to me. (Risking your life to contest Nago. Chaos being plus forever. Asuka bullet time. Sin's nuclear explosion invalidating any need to spend any meter that isn't on tyrant Barrel. Jacko's infinite defend command, Kyle's infallible stun dipper and f.s)They buffed up some characters in INTERESTING ways that don't just Uber break the character. Baiken gets rewarded a lot for throwing and tethering. Testament gets more pressure for stain. Johnny gets a cancel off his dash. Anji gets some reward without meter from rekka.I feel like the games aren't as explosive and actually can take some time to complete. It's not just ape vs ape and the game feels way more fair.
>>537531013If Roborder Sol did not exist, it would be necessary to invent him
why did they remove super prc? its not like this game has a lot of good defensive option
>>537538906it was gay
>>537538906To fuck over faust players specifically
>>537538906It's the usual>This top tier is broken and unfun to fight? Well instead of just simply nerfing this character we're going to make sweeping system mechanic changes that are somewhat targeted towards the top tier but also happen to effect a bunch of way worse characters
>>537538906>why did they remove super prc?because pot didn't need it>its not like this game has a lot of good defensive optionyea
how the world see johnny mains
>>537542724what does obvious ragebait have to do with johnny mains
>>537542724is this guy a schizo or what
>>537538906fucked up and made defense retardedI've been doing it for years and have been questioning why everyone wasn't couple pros realized it was busted and it got nerfed shortly after
>>537542724>Clayton chapman in 10 years.
I am still incredulous over LK claiming his 1IQ character was not a good fit for a beginner
>>537546264Bro you don't understand, she has a bad matchup against........................Faust
fucking hate delay tech FFFFFAGGGGGOOOTTSeat this 2S into 2S into 2Sbow to me
>>537546637giorager
>>537546637i really want to watch your replays man
giorager watch party doko
venom's theme is very strange
>>537534163>fucked inputs now like jumping when im trying to just hold back or jumping straight up when I'm trying to jump forward for a combo. It could be your membrane is wearing out. Changing the dpads are useless in that regard.Aswell as if you want to change your membrane. You better not get Chinese used crap cause I did that and now I have a useless remote cause it cant capture fast inputs
>>537547810He's a strange guy
>>537547416https://files.catbox.moe/9cu5bq.mp4nothing special really, i was pretty tilted by this guy doing it non stop so i started abusing 2s to make a pointi really need to learn this shit myself IF ONLY THAT TROON WOULD FUCKING UPDATE THE FRAMEDATA BAR AAAAAAA
>>537534163>>537535652Also this. I had the silicone pad in one of my controllers actually tear in an noticeable spot and it was effecting my jumping too.Check that rubber. I actually just turned the rub around and it fixed my problem
giorager you should have joined the tournament
>>537546637why not cS into cS
>>5375497182S auto beats fuzzy inputs
>>537549975hm sooooooo op
I love how these behemoths fit together in combos. It's like very violent freeform jazz
>>537550230I don't see people complaining about Goldlewis anymore. Was the j.D nerf really enough to make him bearable again?
Why do those gamecube controllers smash pros use survive literal decades of abuse but my PS5 controller is already unwell
>>537550413nintendo hardware is designed to stand up to toddler rage
>>537550413Controllers are money makers
>>537549580not good enough
>>537550346It makes it much less braindead to get in, but when you're in it's still the same washing machine of pain. Also I'm fairly certain that the Lucy MU is bad for GL so they've gone into hiding until her numbers calm down.
>>537550924That should be what Goldlewis is though, right? A character that has an extremely hard time getting in but once he's in you're in trouble. I still think the drone enables him to get in too easily still but it is an improvement.
me and daisuke when I get in on a zoner, do my string and it's back to neutral again
>>537527185just do 6h if its a high c.S hit
>>537549580he did join and went 0-2 he sadposted after it
I don't want to go on the ride with ups and downs. Where's the ride with only ups?
>>537551374in single player against easy cpus
>>537551624That's no ride at all
>>537537168>a stundipperhaving a low profile at all does carry my entire neutral but It's slow as fuck, loses to several pokes and is for some reason even more minus than Ky's>a very strong f.s it's got decent range and disjoint but when the button is slow, the character is slow, and it leaves her downright submissive on whiff I still find it struggling against a lot of the cast, who either outranges it or simply outpaces it. Sometimes both.It also feels hard to threaten 2S in conjunction because of her movement speed and 2S itself being a bit slow.>a fucked up 5HIt doesn't reach very far so it doesn't actually help me much in neutral unless you do something stupid first.
season pass 4 character players are so fucking lucky I am too lazy to crack S4..............
>>537551374Invest in the S&P 500.
>>537551812Unika's 5H is so fucking fast that I thought the startup frames was a typo and you get a roundstart cornerbreak on CH and a heavily Unika favored RPS on block. You're playing the easiest to be effective with character in the game and honestly probably the games history and complaining?
>>537553337Coming back to the game I remember the thing I hate the most is actually round start. Putting you in an immediate rps against most of the cast that you can't really opt out of makes the game way too explosive. Can't imagine how bad it must have been when Wild Assault was stronger.
>You're playing the easiest to be effective with character in the game and honestly probably the games history and complaining?this is what happens when you learn GG with fraudulent RPS'ers like Unika instead of soulful fundiegawds like Gui
fuck I misspelled Gio don't look at my post
just uninstalled the game
>>537553337She's not even the "easiest to be effective with" DLC character this season bro.And I don't know what chip you have on your shoulder but I'm not complaining about the character's strengths, I'm saying neutral is a struggle, and explaining why it's still a struggle despite the things you mentioned.
>>537554047=(
>>537554279No I've played Unika and fighting games for a decade now and have never seen a character quite as effortless as her. SF4 Decapre maybe?
>>537554429Okay I can see her actually maybe being the most effortless of the season, but saying she's the most effortless in a game that has characters like Slayer and Elphelt can only be the result of a Unika main having killed both your parents and raped your Dog.
>>537538906I asked this question myself until I played a specific player who abused it on every knockdownIt was so gay
>>537554047but bed's so fun...
>>537554927>slayer and elephantnerfed hard workers
>>537554927It's funny you mention Slayer given Unika has his damage but with none of the downsides. Unika can run. Unika has a DP and a 50 tension reversal. Unika doesn't have to play strike/throw. Unika doesn't require any sort of tricky techniques to do optimal combos. If you're mad at Slayer you should be incandescent at Unika.
Why is keygrab fucking plus and not straight up punishable holy shit
we challenging niggas in dix now
this guy looks braindamaged
>>537555447>Move that puts you into your extremely strong win condition that you can confirm into off of everything shouldn't also make your pressure strongerBro???Next you'll tell me pot buster not catching jumps is OK too???
>>537555517>got so mindbroken by ranked he went to the towerlmao
"I would beat you in a different game" is the softest possible statement of all time
Any character with any reversal, meterless or metered is pure cancer
>>537555517what happened
>>537555925even sor?
How are people getting the gold borders? Do you just have to win 5 celestial matches still?
Fafnir should be a 236H input
>>537555925Who the fuck doesn't have a reversal besides HC
>>537556295no you just have to be promoted to celestial from floor 10, the challenge is gone
>>537555517He looks so dead inside damn.
>>537554047*jS’s you*Not so fast
>>537556491But doesn't everyone have access to celestial now?
>>537556376VenomDandyman too?
>>537556376Slayer
>>537555254At this point I can't tell if you're shitposting or actually just have the biggest hateboner for Unika ever sighted.
>>537556576yes, celestial is just floor 11 with a fancy name now, but you still have to be promoted to it to get the gold border (works the same way tower always did, you have a badge that tells you your floor number, but instead of stopping at 10 it changes to a celestial badge now)
>>537555517lmao
>>537556376Asuka, Venom, Slayer
>>537556862Ah, I see. So will I just eventually get it by doing enough celestial matches or do I have to play in floor 10 to get the promotion?
>>537556303That would make hitting 623H a lot harder, because 6236H or 63236H would be contested.
>>537556698Alright man I guess all your wins as Unika are well deserved
>>537556376Zato, Venom and Asuka since his reversal spell got eeworkedSlayer cancels his backdash but the move itself doesn’t have invul
>>537557004you just play tower matches until you get promoted to celestial, it doesn't matter what floor you play on because as you promote you can't play on lower floors than your assigned one
>>537556689>>537556693>>537556985>Slayer doesn't have a reversalYou can't downplay hand out of existence
>>537556698Cmon man even May players admitted they were braindead dolphin mashers at her peak. Unika is the carryiest character in the game by a wide margin.
>>537556376>>537556985>Literally the most broken characters in the game
>>537556985zatoGODS... we are forgotten
slayer fS is PLUS FOUR on block?????? no wonder they press it so much.
in most matchups hand of doom is just a riskier backdash
>>537557043I don't know why you keep desperately trying to make this some kind of shitty twitter debate nigga, all I did is ask if there were any top Unika players because I struggle with neutral.
Ah yes I bought and launched this game to go fucking play JiveVenom is so fucking gay to fight against, they need to add like 5 more frames of recovery to this
saying hand of doom is bad and risky is just self reporting that you haven't labbed out any of its applications at all and you're lazy as fuck
>>537557864As someone that still cant time his meaties right, slayer players spamming hand of doom on wakeup is greatly appreciated
>>537558057https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-NgeVBIjDDY
>Keep getting random disconnects with pic rel error over and overWhat the fuck is wrong, this shit doesn't happen in any other game, I don't match with wi-fi niggers, I have a consistent connection
So what's the DR equivalent to the old elo site? I'd say 1500DR = 1800 elo
>>537558372Strive networking is held together by bubblegum and prayers compared to something like SF6
>>537557241I don't even main Unika but she unironically feels more honest than anyone else I've played purely because she doesn't have retarded neutral skips or lockdown and her offense doesn't loop into itself Well, unless I'm playing someone who just straight up doesn't know how laser works, then I can just keep them in the corner forever but since it's usually lower rank players I feel bad and end up not doing it
>>537559886>doesn't know how laser workswhat's to know? all i know is i can jump over it and it works for me
>>537559886Bro she has a stun dipper
they need to delete the park and make the tower the new park, the rooms are cooler
Is he right?
>>537560280>became
>>537559312So it's not just me then? Also, please tell me this doesn't count for being put into the high disconnect rate nigger queue
>>537560079For most neutral purposes it's a much worse stun dipper, and it's her only neutral skip. By Strive standards, only having a slow low profile as a neutral skip is straight upstanding citizen stuff. >>537560041Then you already know more than basically anyone I've run into as far as Diamond 2, who if I try, will seemingly let me just loop S buttons into charged laser until the heat death of the universe.
>>537560280Strive has been so comically mishandled that the only relevant sentiment is of bitter disappointment regardless of the good and bad overall
>>537515552Ignoring your actual examples not being the best and talking generally, characters being unique and different are the only way a game can actually be balanced. The more homogenized a cast gets, the more clearly a character becomes just a better version of other characters. There's no defining strengths and weaknesses because pressure, damage, and defense have been made too similar across the cast.
>>537560824It's faster than Sins and he made it his entire life
>>537559312The connection has been historically so bad I can't even tell if someone really ragequit on me unless they do it more than once.
Bros I just wanna go back to being a Sin playing retard. Unika is also retarded but she's a fucking woman. I'm making due by being the most belligerent Ky player imaginable but it's just not the same
>>537558027i gave slayer a back dash cancel off of his normals like the normal dash cancel so he can kara cancel into hand of doom more often. I think its a fun idea.
>>537560280What are his objections I'm not watching that retard
>>537561930sneed please
>level 900 Unika, diamond 1>10+ DPS in a single game, 2 reversal supers>Roundstart DP>Most of them get baited, both supers baited>Notoriously bad mu because laser beats cubes easily>Leaves after one gameWhy are Unika players like this
>pot who uses hammerfall like a DPgod fucking DAMMIT
>>537555517The fact that he returned to the tower is even sadder than his expression.
chat why is eskay playing minefart instead of based -STRIVE- ?????
How do chipp players ever lose neutral?
>>537555925Asukabros, we are honest as of the new patch.
>>537562546>Asuka playerwhatever happened to you, it was deservedit's also an asuka favored matchup, if you're letting her slowly pull out her railgun on you that's just a skill issue
>>537562872Both Chipp and the game has changed a good bit since, but I played him up to season 2 and I genuinely have never felt more carried by any character in a fighting game in my life. I was so convinced I would win every match it didn't even bother me if I got one touched one round by Nago because I knew I'd win the match anyway, and I usually did.
>>537562872His buttons are actually kinda ass. Or they were until the 2d buff. Ironically my hardest matchups are vs orthodox characters like Sol and Ky, because they've got manlier buttons and will win the game of attrition
>>537560280You can't trust the opinion of someone who willingly returned to the tower. He's clearly unwell.
>>537562787assassinated by bad teachers
finna level 2 savage fang
>>537563142I can't really tell if this is bait or not but in what universe is this mu Asuka favored
>>537563142>it's also an asuka favored matchup
>have really close set with sol in ranked and its 1-1>down to the wire on the final match>he rage quits just as I'm doing the winning comboWtf I thought we were having fun
>>537563142between beam and 6P > stun dipper this is a really really bad match up for asooka
>>537563142Bro what? Unika is practically custom made to fuck Asuka. I say this as an Unika player.
>>537564019That's how Solniggers are. Just remember that the ultimate Sol player is UMISHO.
>>537563864In general if you're playing a zoner and struggling against Unika you're probably doing something wrong.
>>537564195Asuka isn't a zoner
>>537564195you better be >1500 vanq if you're making these wildly off the mark downplay postswe only put up with it from sneed because he's the strongest player here
It's so weird to think that Unika's sci-fi laser gun sword thing exists in the same canon universe as older gg stages like this one from Isuka
>protagonist is literally name sovldaisuke is so so based...
buff deflect shield nigga
>>537565182actually his name is ソル
>>537564195Hold on were you really there thinking "Damn I'm godlike" while beating Asuka players with the fuck you laser? Those dudes were probably playing their fucking heart out.
sonic_sol is saying strive sucks monkey cock...
>>537564534Xrd pushed the series from gothic retrofuturism to basically just anime science fiction
>>537565717He is? I think I'm going to drop it in that case... has he given approval on what game to migrate to yet?
>>537564534as weird as it is to think there are black ass africans living in mud huts in the same universe as the international space station?
I'm too tired for this bait, laser means you can always fight your way to midscreen then you beat literally every """zoner""" except HC from there with fS. It's like when Ram rapes Axl in the same way.
>>537566068He said sf6
So, this is what it feels like to be a CapGAWD, eh? Heh, this beats being a lil soivah any day of the week. CapGAWDS... ride out!
>>537566117I was thinking more of the contrast between gothic fantasy stuff and anime sci-fi but if you wanna go with that...
Fighting Lucy feels like someone hacked their game to give Chipp Rams normals
it should have been Tifa, not Lucy
when the other guy just disappears immediately from the lobby right after a set does that mean they blocked me?
>>537567338It probably means they were done playing and alt-f4'd. You can still see people who have blocked you running about
why the FUCK isn't Sin's 214S not 6P-able (as Sol)?
>>537564528It's not my opinion, it's just what's happened the rare times this matchup comes up at any meaningful level. If Asuka gets going turn he's not gonna give Unika 25 frames to lift up her gun, or slowly send fodder cubes for her to go into it from f.S.
>>537567739The cubes you can use to give yourself blue laser??? Bro what rank are you
>>537564534reminds me of FF9
Why is Blazing Edition not discounted if you already own Strive???
>>537567929Nigger did you actually read.
How do you get in on a Venom spamming stinger
>>537568124Answer what rank you are. Because Unika vs Asuka is free at low ranks because Asuka is actually hard to play. At high ranks its basically impossible because of laser and 6P dipper. You've apparently hit some sort of sweet spot and I'm curious as to where it is.
>>537568269jump over it
>>537564534Bongistan is just a backwards ass place
I love being the reason Lucy players learn that Sol dash low profiles Lucy gun
>>537568340So you didn't read.>It's not my opinion, it's just what's happened the rare times this matchup comes up at any meaningful level
>>537568734>he thinks they learn
>>537564534There's mechas in the background of one of the earliest Pot stages. The GG world apparently has greatly varying levels of technology by location
>>537568734What other dashes can do that?
>>537568734I wish Dizzy's dash was still a low crush.
>>537568734I remember this happening in the early showcase and just thinking "oh so you can run under it".Then I played against Lucy and got shot in the face. That's how I also found out Sol's dash actually has a lower hurtbox than most.
>>537549021>dash up DP without any meteryeah I wonder why you never improve you god damn retard you don't even know why people do that
>>537569021Millia's can
>>537569749is quite large, but how is that relevant?
>>537570441
>>537570441hhehe
>>537570654don't look at me like thatyou're the one who brought up millia's can
what's the benefit of jump cancel BRC? I see a lot of players better than me do it so it must be good but it just seems too slow, even when someone does it in tournament it never seems to actually help them mix
are you supposed to fuzzy 6P Elphelt rekka? Also, can you react fast enough to air throw grenade?
>>537571487F-shiki.
>>537571889You're supposed to never lose neutral and then accept your death when she gets in once.
Opening up a room with the goal of this being a place for intermediate players trying to improve. I’m not very good but not necessarily dogshit. learning Venom! :3ID: 527056
>>537571889You can air throw for sure, just takes a little practice
>>537572654What region, genius
>>537571889just block bro... she can't loop it anymore, you just have to guess once... I think you can backdash throw some of her rekkas but I've never gotten it so idkair granade you can always air throw, I think you can always just hit her with a button too but not 100% sure
>>537572654This still up? How many people?
>>537573294It’s up, nobodies joined yet East Coast btw sorry I’m retarded I never do this
>>537569548that was a misinput faggot. I know it's a high low
>>537573657Can't find anything under that code, weird
ranked is really having me scramble to remember my basic frame trapsI'd gotten used to a lot of simple stuff simply being useless because no one is ever going to mash into 2S > 5H, or some slightly delayed HS buttons, but the amount of baboons in low ranked who just mash at absolutely everything is astoundingthere was a Ky earlier who beat me 2-0, and then went 10-1 or so over the next several times we got matched after I realized he wasn't actually just guessing right on my stagger pressure every time
>>537572654check your settings nigga it doesnt show up
What are Sol's frame traps for corner pressure? I already do c.S f.S 2K 2D 236K once they're conditioned by my c.S f.S 66 throw
>RCing after the move is fully active to beat burstcan we get rid of this bullshit next? if they killed super PRC this shouldn't be off the table
>>537574907nigga where's your fafnir
>>537575217Faf on corner pressure loses your turn
just made it to plat 3 let's fucking go /ggg/
>>537575287only if you're a fucking bitchand there's BRC setups to not only keep your turn, but if they pressed a button, you get Sol's absolute highest damage combos
>>537575287Doesn't it force RPS? Sols love to DP after a blocked faf
is Millia actually that cracked now or are there just a lot of dedicated Millia players around? I've recently started playing her again in diamond 1 and she just seems okay.
>>537576254millia is extremely good in an online ft2 environment
Does Millia have classic anime fighter player expression? I like how fast she looks, it looks like she's still playing +R even though HKD H Disc 4 way mix oki is kinda degenerate
>>537576747What does "she's still playing +R" mean
>>537576964She still moves like she's playing an anime fighter
>>537576254we have 1 dedicated Millia afaik, and she did get buffed from being already pretty strong, but it's mostly that ft2 against randos is an extremely beneficial setting for Millia
>>537577213Strive in an anime fighter
>>537577213I don't really get what you're asking. You have an airdash and a bunch of special air movement tools
They removed character weights, and I looked the other way.They removed dp rc, and I said it wasn't my problem.Now they've removed stagger, and no one will hear my plea.
>>537563271>His buttons are actually kinda assHow? Maybe just looking at the framedata they'd seem average but combined with the hitboxes on some of them like his 5H and ESPECIALLY combined with his speed they become godly. I don't know how it is for other characters but playing as Anji I basically can't whiff anything, not even a 2K without him punishing 100% of the time
>>537577412Well stagger never should've been in, not in any fighting game >>537577464That's more or less on how Anji leaves extended hurtboxes on his normals like a SF character unlike the majority of the cast on top of him having really shitty frames and recovery frames on the said normals
>>537577412They should add weight and DP RC back but leave stagger, that shit is the gayest mechanic ever.
>>537562872whenever chipp is top tier losing as him is generally considered a skill issue
>>537577412Stagger is still there you little bitch
>>537577781are there even any matchups where chipp isn't favored in neutral? how does he fare at touhou?
>>537577464Whiffing Anji's shit ass f.S against Chipp is top 5 scariest moments in this game
>>537577986It's not the same if they can't fail to mash out. The subtext is gone. Now it's just standing tumble.
>>537578350That fS having only 2 frames is so funny when the average is like 5 or 6 frames with a few 3 and 4 frame outliers, you can't even consistently use it in combos because of it
>>537577412>>537578420Mash to tech was discarded from fighting games for a reason you deranged schizo
>>537578917why even respond to an ino playerjust assume they're sonicsol and all their shit opinions make sense
Why does a character who is supposed to be bad have this annoying fucking button
Welcome back Xrd Sol 2D
>>537578420it was just RNG anyways
The great equalizer.
Anytime I think Chipp players deserve respect I remember when one of them wakeup backdashed into one of my cubes and died
>>537564534why do people pretend this IP has any cohesion at all
>>537579992Maybe he did it accidentally, have you never gotten a backdash trying to go from down block to standing block
>>537579065>badyou fell for the aba main propagandanon-jealous aba is average at worst, she has a bunch of annoying disjoints and skips, and if she ever gets a hit or you simply allow her to exist unbothered for a second she becomes the best character in the game
>>537580149This still goes over my fS
>>537580149she feels like a fraud to play against but I thought that was just me being bad
>>537580302nice legs
>>537580108I think that happened maybe once or twice with me, my BD sucks so I don't tend to use it much on wakeup
>>537555447to think this piece of shit is what got me into fighting games in the first place
>>537580391it's probably both things, you really have to learn the matchup, both how to deal with her gimmicky bullshit while in her normal state, and how to stall and survive if gets rage
>>537555447ahri's face looks so much like norafawn. I bet they used her as a model
>>537580936Marine owes me sex
>>537581159should have been her instead of lucy
>>537581159pekora, why don't you ever stream GG...
Tuning in to Sajam's Lucy streams to learn the characters
What do we do now until 2026
Now everyone on twitch plays ranked, is the age of ggst stream sniping finally over?
>>537582217wait until hackerman figures out ranked
>>537582519This shit randomly loses connection every other match already
>>537582217There was a /ggg/er facing sonicsol on ranked yesterday
>>537582519What if he finds the server that stores world ranks somehow exposed and nukes it
>>537582693sonicsol is such a brown name
>>537582893I think we'd actually find that it makes a temporary tower floor lobby in the background and matchmakes you out of it explaining the repeated rematchking and familiar connection errors. Or some other similar jank.
What is the best resource for absolute beginners like me
does it ever happen to you to lose your muscle memory for no fucking reason? I've been able to do this rc tech for months and today i'm failing all the time
Would it kill them to remove the invul from Unika's DP? She already has a reversal supers, is that not enough?I feel like if that were to happen this bitch would drop like 3 tiers overnight
>>537585084Yeah. I just try another day
idom in tns !
I thought you could do a lot of creative setups with Jack-O but I'm watching videos and all her thing really is is just throwing minions at you
>>537587495Minions are legit just too stronk she doesnt need setups>Makes you block a thing>Instantly double digit plus to do anything she wantsSimple as
How creative can I get with Zato or Millia?
I keep getting disconnected during matches or right before match start with a "No response from host" message, send help pleaseAny idea why this keeps happening?
>>537588101There was a period of time where this kept happening to me and only a modem/router restart would fix it
>>537586496I respect both his genuine love for and desire to play this game over anything else and his love for testament's fine ass that helps anchor him to it. Even if he was a damn Laura player.
>if you removed a characters only defensive option she'd drop
>>537588072you're playing the wrong game if you're looking for creativity
>>537484236Those games aren’t strive
It's gonna be funny when 2.0 comes out and resets everyone's ranks
>>537588558>I respect his love for a man’s butt
>>537589994Any hole is a goal b
>get matched against some pot who keeps spamming double jump and then j.D or j.S>j.D beats my air to airs>j.D beats my air throws>j.D clashes with or beats my 6P>j.D makes my 2H whiff>look at the hurtboxjesus fucking christ has this button always been this disgusting? I mean, I remembered it being bad but I didn't remember it being THIS badit's easier to time an anti-air against a divekick
>>537590376Forgot the image
>>537589994Looks girl, acts like a girl, moves like a girl and sounds like a girl in the language that matters so I'm calling it a girl my guy.
>>537590376they buffed it at some point
strive needs more big butt wh*te women
>>537588558>LauraAnd Poison and ManonHe has a thing for fat thighs
>>537590631We're outta white women. Ariels has been sentenced to npc jail, Erica will forever be wanting to slob on Chipp's knob in npc jail and the only women left to possibly add are asian women and black women.I still wish Augus or that black chick from illyria in xrd became playable
So which characters don't actually get safejumps or similar DPsafe meaties off of super wallbreaks?
>>537592386madam president...
The last season was a fag and 3 women. We're in desperate need of some cool manly men. Which is why they should finally make Gabriel playable.
Does Sol have safejump after wallbreak super because I just got 6P'd by Lucy
>>537590562>Language that matters
>>537592872Dont tell me you use the english dub
Fat Chinese hag thighs soon
>>537592386Does the game even mention something between Chipp and Erica? I haven't watched the story mode so I wouldn't know, all I remember is that one drawing of him preparing to cut her throat
>>537593061you can't get any fatter than baiken thighs, can you?
>>537593061Glad she keeps the tea can and hair
I fucking love how every Solfaggot claims his weakness is backdashes when all of his specials catch backdashes and he has one of the longest range, highest reward dedicated backdash catching moves that also need a very specific answer and also a literally infinite active frame air normal for times where you follow up in the air and all his main frametraps automatically catch backdashes without any special regards to them anyways and his movement isn't actually dysfunctional or lacking options just slightly slower I need Solniggers to actually play a character that can be backdashed away from
>>537592632Wish I had the webm of her fat ass hips walking in the hallway here>>537593103The ending of strive's story has a scene where Erica is with Goldlewis on a rooftop talking about how she did a lot of sightseeing with Chipp but couldn't get him to stay.>Fools always like to follow their own mapsas a direct quote from her.
>>537593951uh ohgapped melty
WE LOST EVERYTHING
>>537593951backthrow him if he is on the ground, instantly win
Okay, I'm playing Sol. Lucy is doing her BnB as a blockstring but she's charging her 214[H] because they're autopiloting the one combo she has. How do I punish this?
>>537593951>I need Solniggers to actually play a character that can be backdashed away fromIsn't that literally just Anji, Faust and GL where the first two are meme shit tiers and the former because he wants you to do it anywaysIt's not like it's a common problem across the cast
>>537595035All the pros say Anji is high tier
>>537592701is this nigga like the strongest creature on earth
>>537595114We're not falling for more bait tierlists that place HC on just high tier
>>537595131He's said to be at least equal to Slayer in strength which is impressive considering Slayer is a thousands year old vampire and Gabriel's just some guy.
>>537593976
>>537595114That was last patch with the strong fish, everyone knows he's nerfed now. I wouldn't say he's meme bottom tier but a lot of his stuff can easily be backdashed for sure.
>>537595423Now that you're at disadvantage for using fish, they should at least let Anji get an RC combo after rin again
>>537595779>they should at least let Anji get an RC combo after rin againI don't think he should but same goes for Slayer, Elphelt and Unika eitherFish should be 0 to +2 imo
>>537590562>in the language that matters>testaments succubi: ONII SAMAAAAA
>>537596971>the jeekly 69They're just making up weeklies for this nigga to win now
>>537595337No the one with the full hallway shot that shows her ass and then front while she walks in a group
>>537596971I really don't get why so many LGBT flags for strive. Am I retarded?
>>537596718Testament's a femboy and that's a good thing
>>537596718Yes the language where testament is voiced by a girl and sounds like a girl I already went over this
>>537585039You can read a lot of stuff on dustloop, run through the Mission mode and just hang out in ranked, there's a lot of stuff to learn
Who's the "swiss army knife" character of Strive who's technical because they have tools for any situation?
>>537598574Happy Chaos. Zoning, strike throw, mix, he has it all
>>537593061Why the granny glasses now? It's only been a few months since Xrd.
>>537599232Actually I think canonically it's 2 weeks after StriveThis is something present in almost all GG games, if I'm not mistaken Xrd takes place like 2 days after the pachislot one that's still canon, they don't really change designs for a reason they kind of just do itFaust in a span of 2 weeks went from goofy doctor to schizo horror monster and to this day no one knows why
>>5376001542 weeks after Xrd, sorry I'm retarded
>>537599232Non-prescription glasses.
>>537600154Faust in Rev story modo had none of his goofiness
>>537599232Because glasses on Asian chicks are hot fool why do you think I-no has them.
>>537600373i-no of all characters having tinted glasses is the most retarded design choice that was ever made
>>537600424No it fuckin wasn't it was one of Daisuke's best and longest lasting decisions. And what do you mean "of all characters" she's literally supposed to be shiina ringo but as a video game character so they gave her some glasses like she herself wore sometimes.
This is one of the best normals in the game
>>537600373I-no is asian? Isn't she british?
>>537592386Ariels will return they're not going to just toss away a surprise 10/10 clown church mommy character design like that
>>537601336Yeah let's hide her defining feature with fucking tinted glasses. Such a good design.
>>537601567In what world would you think the girl who looks like that based off a girl named "megumi" who also looks like this would be british?>>537601715Her MOST defining feature is the beauty mark and it doesn't hide the eyes just adds the sexiness of a girl with glasses. Can still very much see how her eyes are strangely different with the strive glasses.
>>537592386Delilah
>>537601604They already tossed her away in xrd. she was supposed to be playable in there and everything but it didn't do well then they literally took the playability out of her in strive with happy chaos. No clown look, no church pope get up, no madness, no power. It's over for her.
Trying to fight Faust Asuka and Axl as Baiken is fucking painful
https://x.com/Harada_TEKKEN/status/1962694913340187052?t=MThpp0lkkQ_iGM-aiZk1pw&s=19They will do anything but fix the gameplay
>>537595335power scaling in gear is bullshit thoughGabriel fucks up Bedman who fucking dumpsters Slayer.And then Bedman dies to Venom because ????
>>537603782She'll be in Rev3, just you wait
>>537604065You have absolutely no room to comment about that in the Strive general anon
>>537603782How would she play?
>>537604067Did you miss the part of the story where they explicitly state Bedman is a gimmicky faggot who's knowledge checking people in the story JUST like the character does in game in both Xrd and StriveThen one nigga labs him and cums no him
>>537604196Nta but the current patch is the best this game has been
>>537604067Sometimes I wish I was as retarded as a power scaler who can't understand that there's more ways that fictional characters can win fights other than just punching harder than the other one. Life would be so much easier. I'd never ever feel the need to think about a story ever again, I could just mindlessly watch death battle until I accidently kill myself by doing something retarded.
>>537604196Tekken refugee here. Yes he fucking does. Even goddamn strive is willing to actually nerf ANYONE. FUCK I hate heat and I hate the tekken devs man.
>>537604280>Did you miss the part of the story where they explicitly state Bedman is a gimmicky faggot who's knowledge checking people in the storyThat never happened. He just has godlike power except when doesn't. Let's not pretend GG's writing, much less something as irrelevant as its powerscaling, is air tight or something>>537604370Anon sometimes it's just that simple. Gabriel punched so fucking hard and so fucking fast that Bedman literally could not keep up even with all his bullshit.Slayer just got fucked.
>>537604196If strive was made by bamco wild assaults would literally be unchanged except a small damage nerf
>>537604651>He just has godlike power except when doesn'the literally abused some gimmick until venom figured it out
>>537604651Explain exactly how and why Venom was able to beat Bedman
>>537605637The ""gimmick"" that Venom ""figured out"" is him reading minds, which he ""answered"" by bringing a robot. Which distracted him long enough for Venom to... set up an inescapable instant kill that works on anything or some shit, because that's just something he can do apparently.>>537605664Having rewatched the story like a week ago, there really is no how or why, it just happens, they handwave it, and then Bedman is dead. They clearly cared more about having the Robo Ky scene and then the Bedman death scene than they did about having any of it make sense.
>>537606083sounds like a typical online fraud gout outfrauded
does venom still get a half life combo in the corner from his command grab?
Do Zatoniggers really expect me to feel bad for a character who, even last patch, made you block 10 million years and 20 mixups every time he got a crumb of a turn?
How is Dizzy ice floor fun for anyone?
>>537604494>Even goddamn strive is willing to actually nerf ANYONEHC, current Pot.
Tokon beta codes are out for people who applied for itFor the PS anons who actually got in, please record as much as you can for the rest of us pc plebsI want to see a lot of gameplay webms of Storm and Starlord
>>537609406>Ghost Rider and Spidey on the imageHold up I thought they weren't in the betaDo we even know how GR plays
>>537609559He has a leather jacket and uhhhhh his skull lights on fire and uhhhhhhhhhhh he has a chain that lights on fire and uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh he rides a motorcycle (that lights on fire)
>>537609732western Sor????????????
>>537609732I meant in the game bwo.....
>>537609406Why the fuck only ps5 beta?
>>537610035They are angry about pcfags datamining everything probablyWay more likely because Sony is the publisher
>>537610152>Sony cucks have to pay for the right to use their own internet to play games
>>537590562I miss when fighting games were about skill and practice instead of this shit
>>537609292Yes they were not nerfed in a way that mattered enough or at all but others like Johnny did were which is the point. Bamco will never touch Nina, Anna, king, bryan or everyone else doing their retarded animeshit that shouldn't be in Tekken when the biggest thing Tekken needs now is everyone, especially the fucking Evo ruining Williams sisters, nerfed to hell. Arcsys also had the sense to nerf their new universal mechanic but heat never will be touched in a way that matters.
>>537610445SF6 literally has the most robust and helpful training mode made yet
I think i just ran into the lamest Millia I've ever seen, I'd never seen one actually loop disc for combos
>>537609406>boot up my pee es five>accept my mahvel toucan beta invite from sony>can't play it because the pee es five has no gamesarcsisters...
>>537610652Marvel Toucan is funny as hell lmao
never trust a nigga with blue melanin
>>537610551I don't play tekken what is the animeshit characters are doing.
>>537610551>Johnny did wereHe is absolutely the fucking sameIt's like assuming Anna would be nerfed if her i10 went from 17 damage to 15, wow what a big change that doesn't really matter for the things that make her broken
Why are there no more Japanese streaming Strive?
honestly? i hate when combos have more than 4 attacks
there are people... who thinks mixups are fun................................
>>537612057yeah, we call them m*llia players, but they only think it's fun when it's THEIR mix, they absolutely refuse to even try and block anyone else's
>>537594950just dpeven if its uncharged its always dp-able
>>537612057WARNINGWARNINGSAGAT PLAYER DETECTED
Do I-No players still exist
>>537612805*distant tattered big floppy hat in the breeze*
>>537604494You know not the horrors of TBB. Pot has been tier 0 for a year because of it. Even the worst game based balancing can never compare to how bad Strive’s TBB is.
>>537604356do you main potemkin by chance?
>>537611043Chip damage on a bunch of moves with zero way to negate chip or do pushblock against it when you block in a series that never had chip dmg or a need for pushblock like tekken 8 does. bunch of characters having mini installs that are not needed and activate when you use certain moves and give access to more braindead retard moves or buff normal moves to be braindead or just do more damage.universal once per round anime install state(some characters getting a super buffed install state if you go into it once per round 3 times) bullshit that you can go into by hitting with one of the many belligerent unpunishable or safe buttons or by pressing the heat button that plays a cutscene then does an armored move that basically says "I pressed the cutscene button during your pressure my pressure and buffed character now". 2 separate cutscene supers during said install with one coming from near unreactable lows for the game and another coming from slower but more powerful moves that can either break the stupid stage hazards for a free combo if they hit or do the equivalent of strive wallsplatting from round start with how far they toss people. Feels like every character is I-no/Millia 50/50s but with Potemkin and Slayer damage.>>537613020I have been playing this game more specifically because of how much I hate tekken 8. I am very aware and still think 8 since april 1st is 5 times worse than that period.
>temu 8 season 2 patch when on launch one char had an unreactable 40 dmg unblockable mid that gave a wallsplat for a full combo and the other forced you into a mix from a jabliterally zero care for the ip, just milk as fast as humanly possible
>>537613020What is tbb? I keep seeing this acronym but I have no fucking clue what it stands for.
this can't be real, these faggots can't be actually debating guilty gear lore like it's not completely mind blowingly retarded oh my days
>>537614340the botemkin busta
>>537614820Fighting game lore is good thoughever.
Are we expecting a graphical update for 2.0 like how GBVS>GBVSR (that also turned it into the prettiest fighting game ever made)?
>>537614340TBB is part of OAT. OAT is the initiative taken to control the type of community Strive cultivates. This includes Bridget and Testament and the mechanical changes. TBB is about what characters get to be strong. Sol, Slayer, Potemkin, etc. It’s about who those appeal to. Difficult characters should not be allowed to reward hard work. Easy characters should be stronger by default. That is TBB.
>>537614340trans based balancing
>>537615328What do these acronyms stand for?
>>537615214>(that also turned it into the prettiest fighting game ever made)LOL easy there buddy
>>537616056Galleon's tits were too much for him (along with Anilia's and Narmaya's).
who's Mappa?
>>537615214Depends on how much hopeium you want, but I would guess not. It would be cool if they upgraded to using the cinematic models for everything and re-made all the animations and smears etc etc, but potato PCs and PS4 / XBO / Switch etc could never run it (even if they upgraded to Unreal 5 for the in-place gains... unless they re-write the whole thing to be more thread wide). I'm guessing cast-wide overdrive overhaul to add "instant kills" the same way Lucy's works, totally removing WA, lower damage on individual moves, less meter from positive bonus, and they may even fuck with character weights / general gravity / and IB window.
>>537597424narcissism and the need to be different, ironically they're all the same like that buzz lightyear meme
>>537616620> cast-wide overdrive overhaul to add "instant kills" the same way Lucy's worksYeah ok maybe>totally removing WA,LOL in what world are you living in. They said they'll change the dependency on them not take them out completely because they do still want people to use them.
>>537616443you mappa? you get slappa
add damon and baby
>>537616056>>537616116It's not a contest. GBVSR is of considerably higher fidelity at 4K highest settings at least for characters, lighting and effects.
>>537616620>totally removing WAWould be nice but you know they aren't gonna back down on that. I feel kinda sorry for them, they added a mechanic that market research probably said would be good only for no one to want or like it.
finna learn slayer
>>537616056I already thought base GBVS looked better than Strive, but I know that's just my personal opinionGBVSR looking better than Strive is not an opinion, it's a fact.And it's not even something worth sperging out over, Rising came out after Strive, it's not surprising it looks better. It also does not mean Strive looks bad.
>>537618257grub is not as good looking as you thinkthe visual identity and creative direction are informed by being a gacha. bright lights and strobing effects to titilate the dopamine husks that sre gacha goonersit's not ugly. just extremely tacky
>>537617902They aren't having people whining about it ruining the game or making everything too samey/retarded like people do about heat or drive so it is an absolute success. Only place I see whining about WA is here and even then that's like 2 posts every couple of threads or 2 posts in a thread.
>>537609406I thought I applied but I didn't get any code
>>537618257Anon that is not an example of rising look good at all. Hell most people don't fuck with it because it still has that fucking granblue gacha style that most don't fuck with and it's up close moments like the one you posted aren't as nice looking as the strive, Xrd and dbfz ones. Know I certainly fucking don't.
strive looks like a ps3 game
>>537618257>Rising came out after Strivethat doesn't mean anything>it's not surprising it looks betterthe first gbvs looks better than rising
>>537618469>>537618762you are transgender
xrd looks like a ps3 game... oh wait
>>537618882But rising AND strive are both known for being tranny games with a bunch of granblue players being ex strive players or people that hop between the two
>>537618257You're overall correct but that wasn't perhaps the best example
>>537618939what's strive's internal file name called again, rev3? ah makes sense now
>>537619150they were making rev3 for me but then god punished me and sent me to the timeline where they scrapped it and made soive instead
>rising came after strive so of course it looks better That's not how it fucking works rising looks worse than Xrd, dbfz and strive the same way dnf duel also looks worse than those three. Granted it was just arcsys sending a few guys to guide 8ing on how to do their style but still.
>rising looks worse than Xrdquick, someone get the emergency HRT kit, this sister is ACKing out
XX was the best a fighting game has ever looked
>>537598703No reversal which is a death sentence in a game like strive
>>537618469>the visual identity and creative direction are informed by being a gachathey are also financed by being a gacha. that shit has some of the best animations I've seen in any FG. voice acting is kino too.
>>537620521weird how this death sentenced characters wins tournaments and places consistently, HC players must be goated
it seems everyone is getting rematched with the same guy over and over again everywhere this ranked mode is a fumble lmfao
>already back to pre-patch levelsLOL soivers really thought matchmaking would save their game
>sixteen times the detail and 16x the laghttps://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2515435428
>>537622629We're not going to survive until 2026... it's over... *catastrophically explodes*
>>537622629>>>/fgg/
>>537619351
>>537592786IAD j.h
>>537624548is that really a safejump for Sol? it's not a safejump for Venom
Personally I love the artstyle and animations of Xrd the most desu.I miss characters having their own personal short but cool intro instead of whatever the fuck they started doing on Strive by having characters walk slowly into each other then just stare and do a bit of dialogue, they do the same on Rising which is lame, but at least they do put a lot of love on Rising outros (and super outros even more).https://files.catbox.moe/ev33tx.mp4If Strive still had the art direction of Xrd but with the higher quality models / textures and way more fluid animations they have, it would be easily be the best any fighting game could look.Also I miss Xrd May so much, easily my most beloved version of her and favorite fighting game char of any game, gameplay, design and personality is just nothing but cool and adorable all at the same time, Strive May is too much of a moeblob, cute, but not very cool.
>>537625027xrd had a lot of personal flourish but it's aged poorly. I appreciated it at the time but the color grade is eye damaging and everything in motion looks weirdly smooth and weightlesspedo
>I don't play strive faust because he's too different from his previous incarnationstranslation: he's not a top tier anymore
Doesn't matter Uncle Ben, Overture looks better than both of them.
>>537625140>>537625347strivesisters... is this true?
>>537625176Xrd still looks good, I think it looks nice and smooth in motion which is nice, I like the colorfulness of it, but I also can really feel the lack of "heavy-ness" compared to what Strive has, on Strive whenever you hit someone you really feel it.But also Strive feels like you're walking on glue, it would've been nice if they could've got a better balance between the 2 games.Retard.
What does weight mean here? Hitstop? Screen shake? Sound effects? Air combos vs grounded combos?
>>537626283weight-y
>>537625027i like xx may most. strive may is a bit too tall and plump to feel childlike. xrd may is a gremlin
>>537626283For me it's the animations, hitstop and sound effects, screen shake maybe a bit? combo structure not at all.Think of like Slayer Pilebunker loops, on Xrd there's some weight to hit with the wallsplat / tumble but the hit itself kind of just happens, on Strive whenever a Pilebunker hits it look super heavy from the get-go.>>537626538XX May is cool, I think her clothing style is cute but I don't like her gameplay that much in comparison, would still say she's my 2nd favorite though, Xrd May is only a gremlin in gameplay but her personality is very playful / proud and kind (you get to see a lot of that on Story Mode), I grew to like her visual design a lot more after maining her for so long, at first I didn't like it but now it's easily my top 1.I don't really know how to describe Strive May other than moeblob, she barely had any appearance on Baiken / Bedman? extra Story chapter, in-game she doesn't carry herself with that proud yet playful style but instead is more like just straight up cutesy, even her voice direction is a few notes higher from what I can tell.
>>537624845it loses to 9f supers/dps and 6p, other option is iad fdc j.s to beat 6ps, you don't have a real safejump after wall break
>>537625027you can argue it looks better or worse than strive but you can't deny that it lacks polish, we gave soive a lot of slack because of covid when it comes to its barebones presentation but I expected them to incrementally bring it on par with the previous entries in the franchise but no such luck I'm afraid. Things like jamu pantsu, intro/outro dialogue, some MUs having special dialogue mid match are all canned>>537625853>>537627321not a wrong assesment, but I feel like that sense of weight comes at fluidity, some throws and command grabs feel choppy to look at because of their tendency to hold the key frames for longer, is it still anime? absolutely but it's more of a shounen on tv budget type beat, with "action" being stills instead of actual animation
tatumer
It's over
We're so back
>>537629568Oh, no, Xrd certainly, absolutely, lacked polish, but it had a lot of heart and soul poured into it, everything about the game was just maximum personality, we can argue that its roughness was because this was the very first few of their games with this artstyle and they were still learning how to execute it properly.I really feel like with Strive they just didn't treat the game as it if was part of their most beloved franchise, and I'm not talking only about the gameplay or even the intros / outros but the whole package, the presentation just from the menu and music is off, and it used to be even worse.>Things like jamu pantsu, intro/outro dialogue, some MUs having special dialogue mid match are all cannedIt's sad to see that all that stuff is now gone, they added a few intro dialogues between chars but most are kind of generic and also almost no one wants to sit through the entire 10s long intro of just the announcer, not even the characters, to even get to that part.XX and Xrd had way too many amazing win quotes, Robo-ky particularly had way too many amazing quotes, hopefully with Strive 2.0 they bring some of those back, like they kind of did with Lucy.
>>537633112Maybe I'm just blind but I don't really see how Xrd lacks polish, it does what it does very well
2.0 probably isn't until after AWT Finals. How are we actually supposed to survive? Even the ranked mode is laughably dysfunctional to boot.
>>537634657idk>selects bedmanstrive is so fun!
>>537634845bedman is so dumbed down compared to xrd bedman... where are his sigils?
>>537634521There are plenty of animations that just kind of slide (mainly in the story though), clip into each other (mainly throws / air throws I feel like), look stiff or lacked frames (Johnny's Intro is a big one for me, it looks like it's running at 10 fps), also nearly all the instant kills are set on an empty rock field with an almost empty background, with only a few exceptions.But yeah, it does what it does really well, like they tried their best to make all the animations look as nice as they possibly could at the time, and they obviously succeeded at that, no other fighting game achieved the Anime 2.5D style as good as Xrd did at the time.And obviously the overall vibe straight from the Title Screen, Main Menu, Char Select, VS Loading Screen all the way until the fight Win Screens are all on the same style, which really sold the whole package.
>>537625027I dont like how everyone has pointy ass crescent moon faces in xrd
>>537633112Idk why Strive just feels like a product that's just pushed outta the door, like Xrd had mini interviews with the VA cast in the gallery, why doesn't strive have that? I wanna know how Robbie Diamond feels about being recast from bed to the faggot that ruined this game forever for example, like those little touches here and there say "this is our game, it has a piece of our soul in it". Soive just lacks that kind of love
>>537637517This is why I want announcer voices back, they allowed you to know what one character thinks of every single other cast member, even if it was just I-no calling Venom gay or Chipp calling Baiken a geisha
>>537637115Just style preference, I like the somewhat pointy faces with the more slim / fit body frame more than the super rounded squishy faces with small facial features and wide body frame from Strive.Also they were pointier in the character art but not that much on the actual in-game models, since they would morph those models to fit whatever animations they needed, but I do remember Jam and Elphelt in particular looking very weird on the story cutscenes and intros, but then Ram or Millia were super pretty imo.>>537637517>En VoicesGross.But oh man, yeah, I loved the mini interviews, Joji Nakata, Takehito Koyasu, Satomi Koorogi, Megumi Han and Rei Matsuzaki were a few that I loved a lot.Also the announcer voices, I would keep rotating between Ram's, May's (because she couldn't pronounce half the chars' names), Zato, Slayer, etc, they were all so good.
>>537639529What a picturesque soul vs soulless example
>>537639529I think that's because there's this aura of toxic positivity around strive. Even HC was a hill to die on at some point, when there's a community that'll just eat up whatever's put in front of them without 0 opinions of their own or any insight, why bother going the extra mile? strive's artstyle and presentation is limited because arcsys has no reason to go all out like they did before
>>537640950Yeah. Arcade modes don’t even have art and the stories suck. Johnny doesn’t have unique cards for joker trick either.
Talking about Arcade Mode reminds me that for story, Xrd story was amazing not because the story itself was anything particularly mind blowing, but it was enjoyable enough.I think the main thing was that Xrd Story had something for every character, you got to see pretty much everyone on the story have their spotlight and development throughout at some point, whereas in Strive aside from HC, I-no, Sol, Asuka, Jack-o, Ky and Axl you barely even saw the other characters do anything meaningful or have more than 2 minutes of screen time.Nago kind of just existed to fight Gio and then do nothing, if he even did anything else I don't remember any of it.
>>537641067you get what you deserve, this community never asks for more, is always content with the bare minimum, is always subservient and is very willing to throw money at it at all times, so why should Arcsys put effort into something they know isn't going to be appreciated, at this point I don't blame them for putting out nothing but goyslop, after all that's what people want, that's what people pay for
>>537641504I remember, his blade is one of the few things that can *truly* harm sol, then HC just makes bullets from the same material and distributes them among his mind controlled army of goons so Nago goes back to irrelevancy
>>537640181Even in that image you can blatantly see how Xrd looks worse with it's stupid fucking color filter, oversaturation and worse models idgaf.
>>537639529Millia is so hot.
>>537646139All those things look great though.
>>537596971blazing still my heart is blazing
>>537634657yeah like ranked is obviously a good idea and the ranking system is good but IT HAS THE SAME PROBLEMS AS THE FUCKING TOWER YOU JUST KEEP DROPPING CONNECTION WHEN TRYING TO MATCH WITH PEOPLE i hate arcsys hope tokon fails too
Any good mods to spice up the pre match loading screen? I'm sick of that Eagle
>>537646378Most certainly fucking not. You take out the shitty yellow piss look Xrd has change the shaders to make it more like strive, wham it looks twice as good from that alone
>>537646139I'm not convinced the soft, blobby anatomy was the right way. Same with the relatively heavy desaturation. There was likely an appropriate compromise that was missed along the way.
This is such a weird game in that there's literally no consensus to button layouts on stick. If you ask anywhere what the ideal button layout is you're gonna get 12 different answers
>>537647780It does look good though, sure it can look a bit better with some color shader adjustment but this is just a very minor issue and it mostly comes down to preference.Personally I don't care, I like the Xrd models / animations way better, the Strive shader / desaturation is way too colorless and boring for me in most cases.
>>537648482I don't know why people don't just go the normal way, from weakest to strongestP K S HS D
>>537648482Guilty Gear has like 6 different arcade layouts and everyone customizes them further at home.
>>537648482That's a problem with every modern fg to be fair. There's no possible layout where you won't have to bind something important to one of the rightmost buttons because of how many buttons all these games have. They're no longer made with sticks in mind.
>>537648623NTA but the 4th buttons on the right side can be tricky to reach but macros like dash are ubiquitously beneficial to keep close. The standard 8 button stick like >>537648726 mentions is clearly obsolete by now.
>>537649172I mean you can just have P K S then HS D on the bottom and nothing is hard to reach, to me this is the most logical way
>>537648623K S HS BlankP Dash D RCI don't use the RC macro a bunch and keep my fingers on P K S HS mostly, thumb on P
>>537648089The only characters that can be considered blobby in strive are May, ram and Bridget with everyone else just having normal anime faces, and the girls looking softer is the ideal. And Strive WAS the compromise after realizing they went too damn far in Xrd.
>>537649420RC macro is a waste of a button on stick.
>>537649454Jam is the worst offender of the crescent moon face in Xrd. She just straight up looked like an alien with a wig on
>>537622629I was stoked to finally play a real ranked mode, and I'm still having fun with it, but good ranked doesn't change the fact that it only takes a few days of Strive for everything to feel homogenous. Just an issue with the design. Maybe Strive 2 will open things up but I'm not counting on it.
Since there's no way this game will require all 12 of these non directional buttons, I'm thinking about unbinding the pinky buttons. As of right now My layout is>P S D RC >K HS d BurstThinking about putting things like RC and Flawless defend on the bottom two buttons, and maybe Burst above P. Am I retarded?
>>537650317change burst to taunt. why would you need burst
>>537650603Based
https://x.com/i/status/1962893288262017253This is the new character for our competitor huh
https://x.com/Nozushii/status/1962255693433475193They don't have the gene.
>>537650814HIS VOICE IS SO FUCKING BAD
>>537650814beep boop fuck the turret
>>537651213Go get em champ....
He looks OK
>>537651596Let's be fair he looks really good but if you played league his voice is so fucking dogshit
>>537650928>>537651687He sounds like the Grubble trailer guy with a filter over it
>>537650814Competitor is very generous of you there is zero chance this survives post Tokon (though Strive will also basically die if 2.0 doesn't deliver)
>>537651596Man the stage is pretty
>>537652114its surprising soive even lasted this long
>>537651596>tag fighter
>>537652356Why's that?
>>537652521tower and anime games were always dead + this isnt even fully anime so those kind of players just stuck to the old gamesif you told anyone that this game would still have 2k players daily 4 years later they'd call you crazy
>>537652521It's a good game in an industry that only rewards bad practices and not how well the game is
>>537649454That image is the character art though, very different from the in-game model, most of the character art faces looked extremely pointy, but the models were fine.I feel like most of the good female char Strive faces were from the DLCs which kind of took it back to Xrd / Anime in style a bit more, only exception being like Elphelt who looks like a sphere, but everyone else is more like something we had on Xrd (pointier faces, bigger eyes).If you look at May or Ram like you said, their faces are just bouncing and morphing all over the place, while Millia and I-no have weirdly small eyes compared to the rest of the cast.Also, this is aside but on Strive all the characters do this weird thing with their eyes' iris where their shape change from small to big to slightly smaller again, they are like kind of weirdly liquified, is a bit off-putting.
>>537652705#TRVKE
>>537651596the first good character in 2xko and he is merely okay, truly a cooked game, at least Pot has a fun design
>>537650814>>537651596I hate the voice they gave him so much, how could they fuck this up? League voices are way too iconic.
You shouldn't even be allowed online with wifi never mind filtering.
>>537650814The combos in the game seem like they go on forever. I'd count that as a negative but I recall DBFZ having long as combos too and it was successful so who knows.
>>537653560If 2.0 receives an equivalent GBVSR graphical update it wouldn't surprise me if the faces were also updated and changed likeso
trannyment players may be even worse faggots than bridget players
i miss going up to people in the tower and asking them why they are black
>>537653560>most of the good female char Strive faces were from the DLCsYou mean the faces like gio, I-no and Millia already have barring the eyes which still compliment said faces very well?>Millia and I-no have weirdly small eyes compared to the rest of the castThose aren't weirdly small those are the eye size they are supposed to have which Xrd fucked up
>>537658459No.
Trying this again since yesterday was a bust East Coast fightan room, hoping for an intermediate and beginner friendly vibe or for those veterans learning new characters, or just come if you feel like spitroasting mid players for the lolz, don’t really matter to me.ID: 226515I’m also blasting the OST with the actual game audio turned the fuck down, as one should.>TWO LIES AND TWO TRUTHS
Bridget Unika Elphelt Testament Dizzy Asuka all have faggot playstyles
>>537658621>East CoastBrother, it's just after noon on a work day. I know, I know:>implying people aren't NEETI may be able to scrounge some time; let me see.
>east coast sorry bro call me when the russian lobby is up
>>537658950I called out today because I slipped a disc in my backOtherwise I’d be on the grind right now too
So Zato seems pretty good again. Doubt we'll ever hear the Zatofags admit it though.
>>537658517Yes. Even using in game models and close ups Xrd's seems like they went too fucking far trying to get that early 2010s audience/late 2000s audience.
https://youtu.be/XZqE-NvM5y8literally what did they do to pot
>>537660154>Potemkin players consistently having the most dogshit redditor mods known to earthWhat is wrong with them?
>>537660445glue
>>537660126Wasn't Xrd trying to attract Blazblue players? I really like how that game looks and I also really dig Xrd
>>537660126>they went too fucking far trying to get that early 2010s audience/late 2000s audience.Yeah, it looked great, on Strive you can't even see I-no's multi-colored eyes.>I-no IK faceShe's supposed to have a shit-eating grin there, not a fair comparison.
>>537660445Grapplers have always been redditcore
I remember an interview they did pre-release where they say the intention is for Xrd to look like a TV anime and Strive to look like an anime movie. It seems pretty apt and both have their merits.
>>537660126>>537662070man xrd I-no is yellow
>>537662448Strive does play more to what you'd see in a theatrical release with the greater emphasis on subtler character animation in the cinematics where as Xrd plays to the "corner-cutting" techniques of TV anime with more exagerrated pose to pose animation.
any tips for getting around venom zoning? sometimes I spend half the game just blocking shit
>>537662495There's some weird color filter going on only during matches, because the characters don't look that yellow on Diorama mode even on the same stages.It can easily be fixed with a little bit of modding though, I just never bothered.
>>537661701Yes that's explicitly why I said early 2010s audience/late 2000s audience since that was blazblue's audience and peak popularity as a series.>>537662070You most definitely can see her multicolored eyes in game with of the time they look like the ones in your top image. Here's another example more reminiscent to her standard face.
>>537662875dash blocktake your adderall and whiff punish when he uses the wrong poke
>>537660126>>537662946Xrd I-no looks like she is desperate for dickStrive I-no is gonna toy with you little boy
>>537662495Yeah it's fucking terrible cast wide jaundice and those faces that look like gardening tools are my main issue with Xrd.
>>537660126strive sucked the soul out of guilty gear for the sake of mass appeal
I miss Ramlethal's big rabbit ears
>>537658621Room is still up btw feel free to join :3
>>537662946Hm, yeah, I really really like the Xrd look a lot more, the Strive look is just so gray and boring, she also looks like she's covered in dust.And Idk, I can't tell her eye colors, the heavy desaturation from the game combined with the tinted glasses hide it too much, I think I do remember sometimes her eyes showing from behind her glasses looking a lot more colorful but most of the time you can't tell.Also I don't like how she stole the bottom half of May's Xrd outfit because it doesn't fit her style at all.>>537663250>Xrd I-no looks like she is desperate for dickPretty sure that's what she was always meant to look like, she always had the act of the bad bitch.
>>537663846They tried and started that with xrd thoughbeit. Didn't work then of course since just injecting blazblue into gg wasn't gonna work so they tried again with a style that looks better. but it wasn't strive that started it.>>537663953Those are very clearly cat ears
>>537664243>Pretty sure that's what she was always meant to look likefuck no she's meant to look like a confident and a little crazy tease like in +R and Strive but Xrd I-no looks like she's addicted to something that isn't sex and is inches away from going joker mode.
hey baiken niggernice winquit
>>537664709hold that
>>537664709not obligated to play with you
>>537664709There are baiken players in this thread? Disgusting.
>>537664709Why are baiken players like this?
Just played a maychud that blocked on wake-up literally every time, except after he got thrown.
>>537664668>In +RShe looks exactly the same in Xrd, the only difference is you can see her face expressions closely.>In Strivelol no, in Strive she just look like someone's aunt who's trying really hard to be sexy but can't completely commit to the idea.
Just played a kycel that would attack on offense and block on defense, except after he lost the round
>>537665796You literally posted examples of both her in xrd and +R with the two looking completely different from each other.
>>537625027>they do the same on Rising which is lame, but at least they do put a lot of love on Rising outros (and super outros even more).That's a bit disingenuous. Characters have two intros, P1 has more flair and fluff while p2 leans more into what you said Just look at Wilnas, Galleon, Vikala intros.All the heart and soul you miss from xrd that strive lacks is ironically in Rising
I don't want to play this game anymore, everyone knows how to fight my character and I don't know shit...
>>537658621ggshope your back recovers ok
jack-o player 2:0'd me, we matched again and he ran after I won the first gameThank you bro you inspire me to get better
>>537658621Room closed GGs, I had lots of fun. I really don’t understand Asuka or Faust, I just crack immediately under their insanity.
>>537666558teach them to fear you
>Fighting Ky>Dude plays like a level 1000 CPU, genuine inhumane stuff>Somehow block Stun Dipper>He dps when I try to punish with 2kTf?
>>537650317HAUTEGAWDSSS WW@mine's arriving on wednesday. i am hyped.
>>537602610>In what world would you think the girl who looks like that based off a girl named "megumi" who also looks like this would be british?pretty sure i-no was inspired by mia wallace
>>537667378my usb port broke on my original r16. I had it for about 10 months. Hope yours go better than mine. I bought another but if it breaks within a year again i might have to move on. or try the c16 which has 2 usb ports
>>537666039They look the same to me, except you get close ups of I-no's face on Xrd while you don't on +R for obvious reasons, for the art sure, but everyone looks wildly different on the art for each game.>>537666196Mostly remember the old ones, since no one really plays Rising, which were either char walking to another char or char sitting out waiting, sometimes one of them would summon something but that was about it.The outros on the other hand were fancy from the very first few chars.I went to see some of the newer intros and those look fine, still not a fan of the char walks into another char intro so they have to have a boring one and a decent one, but I can see the care a bit more.
>>537667719She has the exact same height, birthday and guitar as Sheena dumbdumb.
>>537667719I-No is based on daisuke's rock crush >>537668330
just nuked some bridgetfag he losequitggwp nice session not playing till next week
Genuinely what is the frame data for Lucy's backdash? It has to be fucking top 3 bds in the game for them to abuse it this much
>>537669338Backdash19F Duration1-5F Invuln1-XXF Airborne
Is this thread really gonna last until I get home from work to make a newWtf
YOU'RE CARRIED
>>537670126if we die it's all your faultI'll never forgive you
bedman niggas are carried by the fact that all his animations are fucking unreadable
>>537670317*tap dusts you from behind a screen wide orange explosion*ggs, shake my bed springs
i'm low on iron that's why i'm not reacting. need to go eat a steak
>>537670126>>537670627>>537670627>>537670627
>>537670650Zased
