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Sarah edition

>>>The Game<<<
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1716740/Starfield/

>>>News<<<
>05/08: New update - Bethesda confirming that "exciting things" are coming in the future: https://x.com/BethesdaStudios/status/1947686948799389848
>06/05: New update in Steam beta: https://x.com/BethesdaStudios/status/1919776896578982315
>06/03: Bethesda confirming future updates: https://x.com/StarfieldGame/status/1897709518013997493
>28/12: Phil Speer is now the lead quest designer for Starfield

>>>Resources<<<
>Compendium: https://starfieldcompendium.com/
>Mods: https://www.nexusmods.com/starfield/

>>>FAQ<<<
>Q: CK?
>A: https://store.steampowered.com/app/2722710/Starfield_Creation_Kit/
>Q: What's the deal with NG+(+...)?
>A: Restarts the game with minor changes to the story and world, while preserving your powers and skills. 10 cycles for suit upgrades, 6 cycles for upgrading the starborn ship
>Q: Should I reinstall?
>A: If you are excited about a customizable difficulty, 3D maps, ship decorations, new bounty hunting missions and mechanics, official mod support and a vehicle, then yeah

>>>Misc<<<
>/stag/ modlist: https://pastebin.com/rNtnZTES
>Artbook rips: https://mega.nz/file/TlJSBTwB#GhmrZRoHDAhhei__Bz2zc6GisgB67_vONrAfYQR8lK0
>Character builder: https://nukesdragons.com/starfield/character
>Threadly space music: https://youtu.be/JI5noh4OyXc
>>>OP template<<<
>https://rentry.org/stag_op_new (will be periodically updated)

Previous Unity cycle: >>536871758
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kek OP made it all the way to Page 10

Have a bump
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Whoops, didn't realize a new thread got made
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Feels bad knowing NMS fans have to latch onto our general since they don't have their own
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>>537523950
They don't need one. They just meet up in game and play together. must be fun
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Cyberpunk is teasing another fucking dlc...
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>>537525095
If it doesn't let me spend more time with Panam or adds 3rd person, I honestly couldn't give a shit
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>>537524158
But NMS has no Sarah tier companions...
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>>537524158
I'm not a believer in games getting better with friends I felt the same level of boredom when I played it with friends. The gameplay loop doesn't have an end goal really just collect resources and jump from one planet to another
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>>537526060
Never will because there are no genders in NMS, it's a completely non-binary inclusive experience
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>>537527837
Then they should make a non-binary alien race where everyone is a space blonde to fill my harem.
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Starfield is a disaster
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Starfield needs natural disasters
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>>537529120
Imagine driving around Akila and a tornado touches down, killing the fauna and possibly you as well if you get too close
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>>537528203
Maybe someone will mod the following into that game one day
1. Sarah Morgan
2. Samus Aran
3. Juno Eclipse
4. Cora Harper
5. Rosalina
6. Maria Robotnik
7. Olivia Rhodes
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Given the mod scene, Starfield could have been the Fortnite of the sci fi genre. A place where all universes and franchises could converge. Deals with Paramount and Disney could have had Star Trek and Star Wars and doctor Who folded into its universe. Its not like any of it would have clashed with any of the "lore" that already exists.
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>>537532038
I can sense that several anons hurt themselves cringing at the thought of that
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>>537532463
Starfield = no fun allowed
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>>537521116
Isn't she run through and womb barren? What type of man wants to fuck such a woman?
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>>537523731
Starfield's next update will fix everything. Todd's just building hype by not talking about it while simultaneously burning down his studio and other IPs.
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>>537539016
We know she's had multiple bisexual relationships in the past, but we don't know how many of them she's actually fucked. She's definitely not a virgin though
>womb barren
There's no mention of her not being able to have kids, but she is in her 40s though, so be wary of that if don't want to risk bringing another Chris Chan into the world.
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>>537523731
it's so fucking over
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The creation kit dropped forever ago. Why do mods still feel like they are pre kit drop?
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>>537541345
1. Because most of the good stuff is paywalled
2. Because the CK is still missing some features
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Nobody upped this?
https://www.nexusmods.com/starfield/mods/14666 (devil trips)
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Hes back. Its over.
Nothing he said is wrong.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ye_i-Mpm_V4
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Giving Autumn and Marika what they really want
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I wonder how feasible it would be to mod in enemy filled mobile based crawlers on some planets
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Amelia Earhart is begging to ride my big cockpit
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>>537542897
Just tried it and it works with first person perfectly while third person struggeles from jarring animations and the lack of movement slides. Not sure if I want to keep it even though it feels pretty good to use in first person.
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>>537546270
Combining it with the Locomotion Innovation mod is a recipe for chaos. I think normal movement works just fine.
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>>537547756
looks like all of those Burgerland football footwork drills paid off
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Oh boy...
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>>537523731
>worse ground combat
>(somehow) worse space combat
>worse exploration
>no companions
>worse story/quests (again, somehow)
>mod scene is basically just removing annoying features from the base game
>9 years of updates that haven't touched the base games problems
only thing NMS does better than Starfield is being able to fly from planet to planet in a solar system but even that is stupid because it's basically just a time sink.

other than memes I really don't get how anyone can think NMS is better than Starfield.
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>>537550248
Friendslop
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>>537525095
bring it the fuck on. we're ready and waiting. todd is with us.
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>>537550354
but the mulitplayer in NMS sucks too
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>>537550248
>sour grapes
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>>537550248
You ever been so starved that literally anything will taste good? It's kinda like that. I genuinely think that the mass hate that Starfield got actually amplified No Man's Sky's appeal
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>>537552290
kek and you don't think thats Starfield?
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>>537541721
>Because the CK is still missing some features
huh, such as?
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>>537558614
the ability to make starfield good
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>>537558614
Mainly the animation tools and whatever Trainwiz mentioned previously.
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>>537558681
Sadly Bethesda will never add this feature.
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>>537559050
Modders will add it in
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I hate Starfield
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>>537560179
We all hate Starfield. You're not special.
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>>537558706
It has those, but only for 3DS Max.
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This can't be there all there is
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>>537560409
I don't hate it
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>>537562314
Who the fuck asked you?
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>>537544703
This still looks good to me.
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>>537563000
Me. Problem?
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>>537564681
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>>537564905
An old meme but it checks out
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>>537564905
You don't want to mess with me, RAWR
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>try to just play the game
>it crashes constantly
sigh
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Can we have an intercourse inside the vehicle?
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>>537573662
Not yet, but the Gergal Ebanex author is looking into it.
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Starfield will be played soon.
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Seems like NMS doesn't really have much worth talking about right now besides the comparisons to Starfield. All I see is people boasting about how much better it is
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>>537575062
No shit. There's nothing interesting in their world and that's saying something in /stag/
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>>537575062
Better lore, better base building, actual settlement system to operate settlements, now shipbuilding, pets, pet breeding, better exploration, better worlds, multiplayer if you want it.

Honestly I started it up for the first time with the recent update and holy hell. $24 to beat everything about starfield.
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>>537576873
>Better lore
You don't need to lie to make a point. You could go the easy route and post the player count or something.
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>>537577186
I know which table I'm choosing
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>>537577395
>sit at the girls table
>all they do is gossip and talk about the mundane
Unless you're "one of the gals" so to speak, don't let your dick betray you into thinking you're going to get that much enjoyment out of hanging out with them
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>>537577145
You don't like reading about the 3 different races and the red entity? What led to the universe being this way?
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>>537578375
I was about to say that I'll sit with Omari
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how can i change robin's appearance? the cacao mod doesn't seem to apply to her, and skinthetica fucking crashes all the time
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>>537579273
Get CharGenMenu, save your appearance first and create your own version of her then open the console and type capp
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>>537576873
Problem is that NMS has no humans and the settlements are not really better.
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>>537580045
sorry you can't goon I guess
settlemennts are neat, building it up, sending them on missions, keeping sentinels at bay
Did I mention I have a fleet of frigates I also send on missions and can fly into and mess about in?
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>>537577145
BEHOLD!!! STARFIELD LORE!
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>>537578379
I like NMS, and reading about the 3 main races and the 4th 'other' race is neat but it loses engagement with the revelation that within the setting it's all a simulation. One that's happened before and will happen again.

Though I have the same problem with starfield's story. Nothing really matters because it's apparently reset at least a few thousand times and will reset an infinity more (or at least until every Starborn becomes too insane or disfunctional from endless NewGame+s to reach the unity)
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>>537580706
There aren't any characters in nms. The civilizations also make 0 sense.
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>>537581587
unity was a big letdown for me
I asked who made the unity, who are the creators and got hit with "Yep, creators create."
Deep lore.
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>>537582015
It's called a mystery smoothbrain. Ever seen 2001?
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>>537582258
I'm sorry Dave, No fun allowed in the starfield.
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>>537581587
Honestly NMS and Starfield both sound like they're ripping off some aspects of The Matrix with the whole repeating cycles thing
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>>537582015
No answer would be more interesting or exiting than the feeling of wanting to know.
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>>537582015
If you're the type that likes to think hard, sometimes the lore works best when you know little about it and it leaves you with enough unfilled holes for you to make your own interpretations. it's one of the things that makes Zelda's lore in particular so interesting, because we don't even know that much about the Three Golden Goddesses and the Sacred Realm.
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Teaser video for the upcoming Whofield TARDIS mod
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nMAVXHFvi5o
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Todd Howard could write NMS lore in his sleep but Sean Murray would never write Vae Victis even if he tried and got high off LSD
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>>537588132
>what if space hitler!
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>>537589701
You make me feel smart
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>>537589701
He's more like a space bomber Harris that got thrown under the bus.
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>>537589701
Honestly Vae might be more comparable to Osama bin Laden than Hitler.
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>>537575062
I think a lot of people just wanted starfield to be NMS with more story and character interactions. They finally accepted that isn't what it will ever be and and now that NMS has taken one of the big features starfield had they are just going back to it.
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>>537589701
He's more known for brutal war time tactics than any perceived racism or hatred for an ethnicity. He's more like a William T Sherman.
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Sarah's milf feet...
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>>537591123
That and bombing his own troops/civilians, destroying one of the 3 major UC population centers. Arguably he killed more UC citizens/civilians than the FC did, if you don't count FC's commerce raiding that pushed the UC to starvation.
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>>537593174
>boming his own troops
Was that supposed to be some great military strategy? The guy sounds like a fucking idiot.
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>>537593550
iirc, he did this to contain the Terrormorphs and to prevent information about the Lazarus plant from getting out. You can imagine how much things would get out of hand if the opposing factions learned about it and attempted to raise and control Terrormorphs for Xenowarfare purposes, but ended up getting themselves fucked over considering how these things can emit a pheromone that can cause humans to enter a state of psychosis.
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>>537593550
Officially it was to prevent the Terramorphs from stealing the evacuation ships and conquering the galaxy, or something like that. But really he was killing everyone on the colony to prevent the secret of the Terramorph life cycle (that plant that turns leeches into morphs instantly) from escaping. This and his association with the Xeno bioweapons project are the only mentions in the game of what he did during the war. He does not, nor any other character in the game, mention any military other military action he was involved in.

He gets blamed for the use of xeno bioweapons on civilian population centers which is why he was supposed to be executed. It's not explained in game why anyone thought that Terramorphs could steal and operate spaceships.
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>thread's been more active
>it's only because brown tourists from /v/ came over to shit up the thread
it's all so tiresome
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>schizo is fighting himself again
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>>537594425
>Officially it was to prevent the Terramorphs from stealing the evacuation ships and conquering the galaxy, or something like that
I don't that was the reason at all
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>>537604003
if game is good people will discuss
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>>537607516
Where's the NMS general?
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>>537609934
starfailed and nms are bad game
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this game is so shit man
even star citizen mogs it
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WHO'S LAUGHING NOW HUH?
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>The Hunter influenced House Va'ruun religion
Where did that theory come from? I don't even remember hearing about him or The Pilgrim having some involvement with them in this game
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>>537621079
What's the deal with Star Citizen? They still going with that shit, or have they abandoned it now? (like starfield)
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>>537581496
They really cannot help themselves can they?
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>>537581496
It's an indicator to highlight the current population
>>537625383
Nonsense. Anasko was indeed teleported to the unknown place you get to see in Shattered Space. Whether he saw a giant snake or not is up for debate.
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As much as it'll probably hurt down the line when the fancy AIO edition comes out,
I think I might just get the base game the next time it all goes up on sale, rather than the edition with Shattered Space.
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>>537628325
yeah they are still going and it's pretty obvious at this point that star citizen is a scam
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Didn't realize Marika had a pretty thicc body by default
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4 days left. Will you get more than a "thanks for 2 years" tweet?
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I think I did hear somewhere a while ago that eclipses could occur in this game
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>>537637327
Maybe a new rover
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>>537637476
For $5 or $10?
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>>537637876
Most likely free like the last two. Would be a pretty dick move for Bethesda to release a paid vehicle creation on this game's second anniversary.
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>>537638010
>Would be a pretty dick move for Bethesda
they're great at those
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>>537638139
>gooner mod on grandma
ngmi
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gaben please remove shitfield from steam
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>>537638263
>grandma
White girls just age like milk, anon. Marika's gotta be somewhere in the ate 20s to early 30s.
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Trump died.
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>>537642656
RIP in piece Zion Don
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>>537638263
You can fuck space grandma with snusnu
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>>537638010
It would be pretty normal for Bethesda, this game is just a humiliation ritual for the handful of people that still support it.
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How we feeling about the future of Starfield?
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>>537649538
optimistic
pepesmile.jpg
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why did i just find a pirate outpost on varuunkai??/
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>>537649967
They got stuck read the slates
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>>537650096
it gets explaned in fucking slates? ffs i play to lead not to read
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>>537637241
long arm gorilla
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Playing through Ass Creed 4 again since it's on sell through Steam. Kinda giving me an idea for a Starfield mod I'd like to see someone make someday.
1. Indigenous tribe on a planet's tropical biome who are the descendants of centuries old explorers who got marooned there
2. Comes with a few gear the player can use, such as a headdress, hatchet melee weapon, and a poison dart gun (might not be possible with the tools we have to make them blow darts)
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>>537650970
awful
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>>537651163
You're only saying that because it's Starfield
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>>537651242
and if it were any other game, you wouldn't be thinking of ways to improve it
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>>537651315
NTA but every game could use improvements
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>>537651587
not as much as Starfield and you know it
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>>537649538
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>>537651315
I only supplied the basis of it. We could all contribute some ideas to help improve it. Maybe have a dungeon area that's heavily puzzle and platforming oriented similar to Tomb Raider games, filled with deadly traps with some leading to instadeath. Maybe also give you the option to find the crash site of the ship and obtain some unique gear in there as well. We could also stand to add some lore behind the tribe.
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>>537652006
just make them the tribe from fallout 2. you can wipe them out and steal the vault 13 jumpsuit
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>>537651827
Starfield is doing too many things at once so that's given. If the scope was smaller and didn't aim for the skies then yeah, there won't be a need for a lot of improvements because people gave up on the idea of the game being anything but what it aimed for.
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>>537652006
Actually that'd be pretty cool. I'm pretty sure there's a couple of Trek episodes like that.
Make it something like Shattered Space - a planet with a large area where the tribe(s) have settled, they have their own petty drama. You have to decide whether to get involved, or leave them to their stupid primal squabbling. Or try to uplift them. Do you dilute their culture? Do you help preserve it from the third party that wants to displace them for their resources? Do you nuke them from orbit?

Goddmamit, Todd. This wasn't even that hard
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>"Starfield's rocks are completely illogical. The fall of Bethesda and why anyone that likes this game is stupid"
>45min 53sec
>7.6million views
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>>537652365
Starfield could really do with leaning into this kind of weird.
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>>537652989
what mod
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>>537655098
Apparently it's Scam Citizen concept art
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Finally an anniversary vid: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ye_i-Mpm_V4
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What if it isn't a giant serpent, but one tentacle on an impossibly huge space cthulhu
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>>537656705
I stopped watching when he showed gameplay of him just running up to NPCs yelling "TELL ME YOUR PRONOUNS" over and over. It was fucking stupid.
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>>537657165
That guy is Starfield's legacy. The chance of this game pulling a NMS or CP2077 is close to zero, so he will be what people think of when someone mentions this game in 2-3years.
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>>537657863
I never heard of him before Starfield, and I've not seen him since. He'll be riding it for as long as he can, I think.
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>>537657165
>expecting any subtlety from a reactionary
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>>537656705
He won...
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Maybe I should buy a pass so I can join /stag4p/.
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>>537652989
>>537655098
Something that'd have been nice is if there was some kind of 'procedural smooth out hull' button which would automatically fill the gaps between the modules so ships would look like a unified hull instead of a bunch of modules stuck together.

Still want stairs or an elevator for a large ship though. Or some kind of anti-gravity vertical tube since gravity on the ships is entirely artificial.
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>>537661019
He's bald and thanks to all that body fat probably has more natural estrogen production than the typical tranny.
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holy fuck are you guys watching the news right now?
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>>537671257
I was in the middle of watching the Fact of Life, but let me go ahead and tune in to CNN
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>>537671257
No I'm playing
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>>537669786
He still won though
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>>537680030
No he didn't, companies are still putting pronouns into their games to this day. NMS particular takes this a step further and refers to almost every NPC as they/them
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>>537680485
That must be confusing as hell, they/them sisters should be one in a thousand not everywhere
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>>537681219
It's more natural in the case of aliens which reproduce asexually. Humans have two genders tho and everything else is California mental illness.
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>>537680485
Very bad example. Pronoun games are bombing left and right costing the gaming industry billions. Meanwhile, sexy waifu games are printing money on much smaller budgets.
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>>537682657
BG3 is a success though.
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>>537683526
That's the only recent exception to the rule. Also 90% of players played as a straight white male which Larian raged about.
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>>537687025
Cyberpunk, basically every modern game with a character creator
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>>537688987
There were worse things people were worried about going on with Cyberpunk initially than an issue with pronouns. Bugs up the wahzoo (still can't over cars suplexing people and that t-posing on motorcycle bug where your pants went missing, lol), performance issues to the point where people couldn't even run it on 7th gen consoles, a bunch of cut content, etc.
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>>537688987
Cyberpunk bombed though and they had to spend years and millions trying to win people back.

Wokeness is a liability for every game that has it, and that is objective fact because woke (mentally ill) people only exist in large numbers on social media, they're completely irrelevant outside of that. Starfield's biggest complaint (aside from the fact that the gameplay is shit) is that the whole universe is completely sterile. If they had fucked off the shitty writing team, got some straight white guys in to write the story, and had sexy women/big boobs, this game wouldn't have failed. You know this but I'm interested to see what you're cope will be.
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>>537691047
kek shut up
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>>537692498
Concession accepted
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>>537691047
There's also
Kingdom Come 2
Monster Hunter Wilds
Call Of Duty
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>>537695143
lol you can only find established games with massive fan-bases already lmao. You're not making a very good argument here.

KC2 was the only one that was mildly surprising there, and it was hardly a massive success.
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Sigh... it's a troll
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>>537695837
>hardly
coping level: extreme
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>>537697062
Palworld was a massive success. You are the one coping.
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>>537697309
Palworld had body types
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>>537697510
Bodytypes aren't pronouns.
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>>537697510
They're stupid no lne really cares that much the rest of the game is fine
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>>537698153
Speak English please.
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>>537698304
It's a typo. You can parse it just fine if you have average or above IQ
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>>537698417
If you had average or above IQ, you wouldn't be so shitty at typing.
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Starfield is a bad game.
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We probably have the most autistic trolls on this board right now.
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>>537700626
This cannot be said enough.
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>>537701085
Then keep saying it, brother
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>>537698087
>>537698153
It's fine bro it's not le woke we are still winning
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>>537701258
Glad you saw the light. Starsissies lose again.
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Idk what you guys are talking about. The new Starfield update is great.
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No Man's Starfield is the win we don't know we need
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>>537702317
>No Man's Starfield
>Starfield is for no man
I see what you did there
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>>537703416
ripped straight from outer worlds
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>>537703636
>>537703416
god this game looks miserable
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>>537703838
>Concince the enemy to explode themselves
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>>537703914
Nope, I set a mine underneath him that only went off once the manipulation effect wore off and he became hostile towards me again
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>>537704092
ok. i didn't ask?
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>>537704169
Just thought you oughta know
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>>537704802
>The pirates be like, yeah we steal and kill, but I would never ever ever ever ever misgender someone.
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>>537704802
How the fuck does it not get around that the PC is a magic wielding space wizard? Like, people are going to see it, and talk about it, and the whole starfield universe is going to fall apart.
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>no trannies in NMS
>Starfield has troons
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>>537705209
Futuristic 1st World, everyone's too focused on trying to sort out their own problems.
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I think that should just about help to give this general a moment's reprieve from all the bullshit
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>>537705350
Made BY troons
FOR troons.
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>>537706296
Starfield sure was.
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It's not too late to join the winning side.
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>>537706538
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Obligatory Sarah Morgan post. We love Sarah Morgan.
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>>537706593
Oh wow that's blatant sexual harassment how did Sean Murray think this was acceptable to have in his game???
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>>537706727
Indeed!
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I should stop lusting over Sarah it's unhealthy to be this obsessed with a virtual woman
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>>537703686
Shitty mods look miserable. The game is good.
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At least one of the anons in here is pregnant
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>>537711193
Pregnant with Sarah's baby
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Player sexual companions are based. Everyone should be attracted to you, I play video games to escape life not getting rejected by a lesbian dyke.
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>>537709265
You can do whatever you want. Obsess even more.
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>>537715953
I don't know if they might have removed it by now, but romancing Judy as Male V is possible since Rockstar already implemented the means to do so in the game's code, you just need a save editor to flag it.
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They posted a video for the 2 year!
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>lots of posts
>90% of it just brown /v/ tourists shitting up the thread, yet again
/v/ needs to be quarantined from the rest of the site, posting on /v/ should instantly ban you from all other boards for 72 hours
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Up
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this not looking good bros
PatricianTV the guy who destroyed Starfield and Emil with his 8h video essay (2 million views) is making another one about Shattered Space
we're going to get humiliated again...
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>>537752628
go back to /v/ and stay there
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>>537752628
I watched that livestream where he just played Shattered Space. It was actually pretty funny. The DLC was definitely a total mess.
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Watching video games essays is dimwit behavior. You can't articulate for yourself so you have to rely on other people to spoonfeed an opinion. Just like that anon who uses chatgpt for his arguments.
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>got the mod that allows you to change people's appearances in the in-game editor
>immediately make my entire crew white
>make all the females dramatically more attractive
>Andreja now has a decent haircut and looks great
>game doesn't suck now

Imagine starfields sales if they had just made the characters attractive from the start.

Yes I've whitewashed barret.
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>>537757329
Farquaad ahh
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>>537757329
>whitewashed Barret
Some black dudes can pull of white face pretty well
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/gIAbmXVQiWc
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>People don't come to live in your outposts
Literally what is the point then? To farm infinite resources for crafting a finite amount of mods?
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>>537760058
For now you can assign Companions and Crew to your Outposts, but you will need to build a Crew Station for that first
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Wanna turn Andreja into an alien?
https://www.nexusmods.com/starfield/mods/14788
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>>537760058
Yes they aren't desperate like Fallout 4 they sure as hell don't need your outpost
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>>537756338
Sometimes its good to hear someone else put into words what you're already feeling. I knew something was seriously wrong with Starfield and watching video essays from people who have clearly played the game was a good way for me to realise there isn't just one thing wrong with it.
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>>537756338
Disregarding serious arguments by informed opinions is dimwit behavior. Starfield shills always move the goalposts.
>They haven't even played it!
>They haven't even played it for long enough!
>Trusting video essays by someone who played it for long enough is dumb!
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>>537760681
The key phrase to consider is "results may vary". The problem with video essays is that they may not even account for your own play style, you might have a genuinely different experience from those players, similar to how some anons find No Man's Sky boring despite all those shills screaming how it's the best game ever since it's most recent update.
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>>537761167
>The problem with video essays is that they may not even account for your own play style
So you never actually watched any of these videos? Because a lot of them account for different playstyles. People who take the time to make an 8 hour scripted video essay aren't that stupid.
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>>537761317
The problem is the only "playstyle" that Starfield caters to is absolutey brain-off mindless looting and shooting and clicking on plants. I don't know what playstyle that is but its fucking stupid.
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>>537761734
>looting and shooting
gunplay is meh and most chests and crates i lockpick have nothing in them. so it doesn't cater to that either frankly.
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>>537761317
There are billions of different people in the world, it's virtually impossible to account for what they're all thinking and the actions they'll take in life. However in this case, the person who made the video essay was at least right about people like you.
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>>537762303
>the person who made the video essay was at least right about people like you.
How would you know? You didn't even watch it. Why should I accept your opinion? You didn't watch enough of the video. You have to watch at least 80% of it before your opinion is valid and even then we'll find some other reason to disregard it.
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>>537760681
If you're smart enough you can do that yourself
>>537761101
I'm just mocking your lack of self articulation. And the so called informed opinions are misguided at best given how emotionally driven they are.
>Acshually Bethesda bad now because no design documents
You can easily dismiss that argument since the devs went forward and said the opposite while the author of that argument is emotionally driven and he still thinks the idea of Bethesda in his head exists somewhere. Only if they took out Emil the whole studio will be saved!
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>>537762492
>the author of that argument is emotionally driven
The author of that took it from Emil who said it in a video that you can find and watch. I don't know what's emotional about that. But Emil then changed his tune after the backlash, because of course you have a fucking design document.
THAT'S emotional. Anyway. You're talking out of your ass.
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Starfield is a catastrophe
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>>537762637
Took it from old interviews where he was talking about Skyrim. Maybe he should've used that poorly attached argument in his Skyrim video. Mind you I didn't watch any of his videos but I'm well informed given how much you're parroting his slop.
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>>537762743
>Mind you I didn't watch any of his videos but I'm well informed given how much you're parroting his slop
Your back must hurt from moving the goalposts so much lmao
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>>537762396
I'm not going to watch it because I would get bored of it and I'm not a tool, I don't really need people to tell me why I should like or dislike Starfield. I've already experienced the game first hand and have already formed my own stubborn opinions about it.
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>>537762803
You can't refute what I said. You should be thankful I'm being honest in this argument.
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>>537762817
>my own stubborn opinions about it
But they're wrong?
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>I'm not emotional!
>*proceeds to make 200 hours videos about Bethesda*
>*proceeds to write 200 lengthy replies about Bethesda*
Mind you these are the same people who want to get Emil killed just because of electronic toys. Anything but my vidya.
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>>537762884
But anon! Don't you see? You're just parotting the opinions of all those redditors and delusional morons in this thread! You don't have your own opinion! You're just repeating all that mindless stupid wrong think you expose yourself to in your little echo chamber!
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>>537762905
They're wrong from your perspective, but from mine, it's merely subjective.
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>>537763068
Point me to the post where someone said the exact same argument >>537762743
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>>537763042
>>*proceeds to make 200 hours videos about Bethesda*
>>*proceeds to write 200 lengthy replies about Bethesda*
You ever get so mad you accidentally make an eight hour long video essay?
No, that takes planning and effort and work.

Now, responding to people disagreeing with you online? THAT can be done out of emotion. Easily.
not to mention that bald baby man who screamed about pronouns. THAT'S fucking emotional
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>>537763206
>You ever get so mad you accidentally make an eight hour long video essay?
There's a motive. For all we know he could be a jew who wants to profit of Bethesda fags but that's way too much effort for an apathetic person.
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>>537763186
I'm talking about your fucking opinion about this game you fucking idiot. Learn to fucking comprehend.
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>>537763331
You are strawmanning this early? you don't even know my opinion about the game but I can only assume you think diagonally.
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>>537763458
You don't know how I think, but I can assume you're a hypocrite.
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What's worse? Starfield? Or the Starfield General?
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>>537763510
Yeah yeah keep living in your bubble.
To break it down for you: we're the imperials and you're the stormcloaks. Emil couldn't write a better feud himself
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>>537763631
>To break it down for you: we're the imperials and you're the stormcloaks
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>>537763774
What? I thought you liked conflicts in a Bethesda game
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>>537550886
NTA. I never played NMS, what sucks about the multiplayer?
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>>537763616
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>>537763631
>we're the imperials and you're the stormcloak
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>>537763935
Stop posting my selfie
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>>537521116
MORGAAAAAAAAAAAN
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>>537763631
NTA but thats fucking hilarious
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I liked it better when aussies were taking about getting impregnated by Sarah
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>>537625383
where did you even get this from
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>>537763852
NTA I don't remember it sucking but it wasn't entertaining either. It's not like Minecraft where you can sabotage and do all sorts of funny shit with other people, it feels streamlined into this co-op mining gameplay loop.
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>>537764327
Can't you do PvP ship combat or whatever?
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>>537764217
That's just from me running a prompt through google's AI. I made theories in here before about The Hunter in particular being a parallel to Lucifer, similar to Sephiroth and Anakin Skywalker.
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>>537764372
Yes but everyone must have PvP enabled and it's like Fallout 76, nobody is enabling PvP
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>>537764496
Wow that's abysmal.
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>>537763631
>Claims anon is living in a bubble
>Proceeds to make an analogy based on another Bethesda game
>Its not even a good one
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I'd just like to say that the spaceport entrance to New Atlantis has some bollards around the central security shack, and that everything is nicely ramped and curved, almost as if it were all for vehicular mobility. Of course, then it all ends up in a little park, so there you go,
I'm not arguing that this area was "art-ed" with vehicles in mind. Probably just a few coincidences.
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>>537765850
Barrett without beard is lowkey fuckable no homo
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Gergal Ebanex got updated. The new workbench animations look amazing
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>>537766986
Man you're jerking off to the animation or the penetration oooh that rhymes
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>>537766089
It wouldn't surprise me if for a long time, they weren't sure if vehicles were going to be in the game. I was always suspicious how good the Rover was when it dropped - I imagine it was already in development and wasn't finished until after release. As I recall, there are even rough "roads" around Akila that link various areas together too. That's what you get when you don't have a design document I guess.
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>>537769860
This isn't a Trump thread, anon
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>>537770217
But it is a Todd thread, anon. Don't you see?
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Did Todd ever apologise for Fallout 76? I wonder how they'll handle the PS5 release to get people past the initial critisism thats been there for two fucking years now.
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>>537771030
People are just going to have to play fifty hours to make their own minds up. Just pay for the $100 collectors edition and don't listen to reviews ever.
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I genuinely would not mind if N.A and Neon had massive unexplorable areas just to sell the population of these areas. Akila could stay small since it's easy to imagine they have a decentralized population of homesteaders.

Landing in N.A/Neon should put you on a landing pad that stretches as far as the eye can see, and then you take a shuttle to the city proper
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>>537772859
Just use your imagination, fuck. NA is literally all skyscrapers. Why isn't that enough for you?
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Just a reminder that other games have been doing reasonably sized cities for years.
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>>537772968
>Why isn't that enough for you?
Because I simply do not believe a society like N.A could exist with a landing pad that can only fit ~8 ships
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>>537773142
The size of Starfield's cities are about what you'd expect from an RPG. RPGs don't usually have cities the size of a GTA game, and most of the time, you can only explore smaller sectors. The real issue is that Starfield's cities are lacking in the interior department, particularly places for NPCs to call home when they're not working or wandering about the city. If you ever played True Crime: Streets of LA, that game is arguably larger than early GTA games, but you couldn't get into any interiors in that game outside of story missions, so it felt like there was nowhere to go in that game.
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Starfield should be erased like Concord
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>>537771030
He did. In a later conference (2019 I think?) on stage he elbowed "It doesn't just work"
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>>537778920
Too late now, people can actually still pirate Starfield
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>>537778974
What
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>>537778974
Makes me wonder. Does Starfield ever go on deep sale, or has it been near full price for 2 years straight?
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>>537779745
All sales so far has only knocked the price down by 40% with the lowest price being $41.99
https://steamdb.info/app/1716740/
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>>537779979
>40% off is still over $40
Grim



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