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*devours your spot as most popular class*

>Midnight Cinematic
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SiIjThwKLaE

>Wowhead Midnight Gamescom Summary:
https://www.wowhead.com/news/everything-new-revealed-for-wows-next-expansion-midnight-summary-from-gamescom-378302

>Midnight features
https://worldofwarcraft.blizzard.com/en-us/news/24228402

>Ghosts of K'aresh is live.
https://www.wowhead.com/news/patch-11-2-ghosts-of-karesh-now-live-in-north-america-378010

>/wowg/ guilds
>EU
<Nerub Silkweaving Forum>
>NA
<GLOBOFOMO>

Old >>537554887
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>>537600402
By your logic, every man and every woman is bad because some of them are bad. That's a brainlet take dude.

Social media is a doomsday device for Democracy.

>>537600531
I missed an old Raven-Queen-like Elite Priest set by like 50 points. I apparently got carried to nearly 2k and then the better I played, the more I lost until I had lost like 200 points or something idk. I also fucked up and was too cheap when the TCG mounts were being duped and missed out on buying a corrupted hippogryph by like 5k gold. Hippogryphs are my favorite mounts and I can't get them all. At least this might come back in a trading post at some point.


>>537601063
Fuck you and I did mean (and say?) that AOTC/CE kind of ACHIEVEMENTS can work. Achievements don't mean shit to me generally. But we're just drawing arbitrary lines now. FOMO for collector shit is trash. All it serves is to keep addicts hooked.
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I really wish Devourer would come with 11.2.5, bros...
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why the fuck did they remove barrage and sniper shot
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>>537601543
based
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>>537601543
Need a Draenei equivalent of this
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Game is dead bros
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>>537601496
quit while you're ahead wo/man you're going to get a vacation
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>>537601561
Where did AbomLimb go...
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AIEEEE STOOPPP

MODS PLEASE HELP ME SAVE THE CHILDREN NOOOWW
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>>537601349
love wowg anons so much!!!
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Smooching every single Drac snoot
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>farseer shamans get 2 different functional raid builds for a single hero talent
>warlocks can now do some wonky ass pure chaos bolt M+ build within their hero talent as well

i like when stuff like this exists tbqh, back in DF enhance having 2 builds was one of the only examples of something like that happening at a realistic level.
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>>537601543
oh my
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>>537601680
For talking about the game? Lol nah. They're pretty lenient here.
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>>537601709
So many dumb dks that don't even had death grip bounded
Are you one of these dog
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>>537601496
Is this a psyop to make aotc beggers look bad by associating them with trannies or what
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WHERE IS ALL THE ARATHOR'S SPEARS? I've looked everywhere and even used truesight. Fuck me.
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I feel like I have a special connection with /wowg/.
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>>537601946
Isle of dorn, pretty dumb
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>>537601912
Wtf are you talking about dude? I'm talking to multiple people. Neither of those have shit to do with each other.
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Let's not beat around the bush any longer. How well-hung is your character?
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>>537601859
your warlock comes in 3 flavors bro
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>>537602108
I think you're deliberately trying to associate being a gross freak with being a retard
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>>537601910
Yeah, of course.
... Did I miss the reason why some DKs don't? I haven't kept up with anything besides knowing AbomLimb is kill, kek
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you guys WISH you could come up with something as good as this
every dh itt has the SHITTIEST mogs
this is PEAK
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>>537602312
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>>537602137
Why is this dog so FUCKING GAY
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>>537601910
im not wasting a gcd on a non damage spell you faggot

go ask the tank, healer, or the raid buff dps to use their utility spell
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>>537602376
only good thing ill say about that one is the weapon is cool
actually there was some other DH that posted his male nelf earlier that was pretty cool he had red tattoos
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>>537601859
Must be nice. I'm stuck with
>doing okay aoe damage but utter garbage single target
or
>utter garbage aoe but okay single target
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>>537602581
yeah im not denying they definitely missed the mark on some but the success stories show it's worth continuing so they get it right for other classes imo. i think making a ton of "hybrid" specs/builds good makes balancing harder because the "hybrids" just end up being good at everything with no tradeoffs because the people playing them cry they're not #1 in a massive pull or on a patchwerk boss.
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Is there any good guide on when to actually heal your tanks in M+, based on tank class? I'm trying to learn healing at higher level keys and I can't tell when I'm wasting my heals or missing keeping him alive. I was just in a Floodgate 11 and the tank shit on me because he says I was spending too much healing on him instead of the party.
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>Spent thousands of gold on repairs trying to get aotc
>Still haven't killed dimmy
How many weeks until pugs have this on farm?
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this game is so boring after a while
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Which "Ruined Crest of Lordaeron" shield color do you like most, anons?
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I wish you AI pedo fags would go back to /b/.
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>>537602820
if blood dk doesnt have runic power they're more likely to die
brew should show a green-yellow-red icon on their raid frame at all times and if they dont have celestial brew available they're more likely to die
if pala has to move alot they're more likely to die
realistically tank shouldnt need healing before like 14-15 tho
otherwise you're going to need to familiarize yourself with popular tanks cds and use omnibar
no, i dont know of a guide
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>>537603013
The old kite shield model was better. The new one looks too much like an old police badge and is way too thick.
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>>537602312
Haven't played mine since Shadowlands, but it's fine, shut up.
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>>537603171
BORING
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>>537602312
>>537603171
rape
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>>537602312
arr rook same
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>>537602915
Last time I tried to pug aotc was queen ansurek. Took like at least 80 wipes. the worst part of pugging if that after every wipe people leave and new people join and have to learn the fight so you barely prog. At least with a guild you can actually feel like you're progressing, even when there's shitters.
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>>537603171
>Skirt mesh is just pants without a gap between the legs
Holy shit does Blizzard really?
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Will Evoker ever be given to other races?
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>>537603839
No, same for dh it will alwys be locked to belf/nelf and their reskins
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>>537603723
You can literally see the texture mapping is intended for pants and they just slapped it on the skirt mesh.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ap7TZRp9MNo
OSRS WON
TOTAL WOW DEFEAT
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>>537603007
I want to be her toilet
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>Alliance don't accept forsaken ambassadors
>Shoot them on sight
>Death knights are ok though
???
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i don't rp and don't really plan on rping but i rolled a character on moon guard because i haven't made an alliance character in forever and it just seems kind of cool, is there anything i need to know so i'm not accidentally acting like a dick to rpers?
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>>537604292
Ebon Blade is neutral made up of all races.
Forsaken are straight up cannibalizing corpses.
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I am talking to the PvP man about PvP gear
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>>537604292
ebon blade are not forsaken
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>>537603156
>>537603156
>The new one looks too much like an old police badge and is way too thick.
m8...
wtf
do you think the police badge is supposed to be?
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>>537604458
Not him but dks are worse than forsaken, they have to inflict agony on the living to survive
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>>537604354
just don't spam toys or fly low on a huge mount around a large gathering of people in a big city, that's about it
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>>537604354
trade district is the designated ooc area in stormwind, feel free to be obnoxious there but try to be respectful in the rest of the city
if you see people out in the world together they're probably rping, most won't care if you ask what they're doing but they're almost always doing a closed rp and not looking to have random people hop in
other than that you'll be fine
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>>537604569
so they wont be mad if I am running around for a quest?
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>>537604517
yea, but they're not a geopolitical entity bent on the end of all life, just individual psychos who are useful
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>>537604554
sounds good, thank you
>>537604569
i like to think that i'm naturally not obnoxious but good to know, thank you
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>>537604756
No. Only the most mentally retarded demon hunter erping with their discord kitten would even register your presense if you're not walking up and spamming toys
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>>537604756
nobody will give a shit, especially if people choose to rp in a quest hub out in the world, they'll know people will be running in and out doing quests. the only way you'd ever get accused of griefing rp is if you sat around people spamming toys or running on giant mounts on top of them on purpose
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Who[m] asked for another DH spec
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>>537605078
me
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>>537602195
No you're just paranoid and misinformed.
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>>537604998
no i mean I'm doing some obscure quest that has me run to some random house in stormwind. will they get mad if I'm not rp walking past them but running?
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Moonkin tree build is so much fun. Solar eclipse fillers, trees for mini burst, and then lining up trees/ca/convoke for mega burst. Elune m+ build is more competitive compared to other dps, but it is the most soulless build in the entire game. No solar, just lunar and starfire/fury spams. It's awful to play and the entire hero spec needs to be wiped from the game.
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>Andy kicked from Method
What the FUCK EUbros. We're never getting another world first.
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>>537604219
>OG kills WoW
>gets plagued with its worst expansion ever that also has its worst content drought ever upcoming
>OSRS kills WoW
>bot detection immediately breaks and 40% of the playerbase become bots overnight
>WoW kills WoW (in SL)
>blue hair Californian coup takes over the studio and thoroughly pozzes
Is there a fate worse than killing WoW?
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People rag on wowg for being shit content but there has been someone flooding /owg/ every single day for 3 years with pictures of kiriko for no reason other than he believes the more he spams her the more she's in other peoples brains and it pains him that people aren't thinking about kiriko.
Actual brain damaged psycho shit.
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>finally get 3k entirely through pugging
>0 desire to keep playing
See you when Legion remix comes out.
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>>537603007
Anyone able to edit out the Horde symbol?
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>>537605171
>No solar
That's a good thing. It's called MOONkin form not sunkin. That gay ebb and flow shit needs to fuck off
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>>537605201
I'm still laughing @ echo tho
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>do heroic run on alt
>open mail
>find 2 leather belt BoEs
wtf? is this a bug? ive legitimately never gotten a BoE since I came back to the game in Battle for Azeroth. And i get 2 in the mail.
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>>537605158
as >>537604969 said they won't even think about you being there unless you sit there for 15 minutes staring or start spamming toys. you can go run around stormwind right now and you'll see tons of people running around, nobody cares
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>>537605275
I do go on and on how bad it is here but I don't pretend it's the worse nor the worst MMO. Blizz should just be better, being one of the biggest companies on the planet.
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>>537605303
solar is the only fun side of the eclipse seesaw
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>>537605201
what did he do and has nicememes been kicked from echo yet?
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where did these thighs come from
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>>537604506
The old model looked more like a medieval kite shield. The new one with the M shape at the top just looks like you got a police badge and scaled it up like a gimmick item. Yes, I know police badges are made to be shaped like shields.

Tear drop kite shield >>>>>>> M-shaped police badge heater
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>>537605275
For me it was the Yuschizo in /pg/ that spent half a year spamming and samefagging his own posts every day. At one point he got tricked to going into an empty thread and made about 300 posts in it talking to himself for half a day before realizing no one else was there and moving to the right thread. The mods finally got fed up with him and permabanned him, at which point he posted this, ban evaded a couple times and then spent an entire day slowly posting cuck and scat porn saved on his computer into a discord someone linked him in anger.
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>>537605275
Every general is like this it feels. Schizos spamming pictures of their waifu all day every day for months and years.
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>>537602312
mine is better
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>>537605478
>what did he do
He doesn't know, but he and Naowh didn't really vibe well together so it was probably just either one or the other for Method.

>has nicememes been kicked from echo yet
He was tanking some keys with some guys from Method kek
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>>537605770
>The bottom of the coat is part of the pants
Nuke California NOW
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>>537605275
people do that here but with their own characters which is much more mentally ill
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>>537605275
/lolg/ has been under the tyrannical rule of a ban-evading giga-autist that spams hundreds of images of AI-generated racebait BBC content of league champs making the thread entirely unsable for legitimately tens of hours at a time.
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>>537605762
It’s probably Russians. Look at any art section on steam for a game. All the waifu and goon images uploaded are from Russian players.
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>>537605813
How about you guys also start arguing that we should have 'equal' sexy mogs? Like the China bikini for men and women. Bottomless mogs (like just that coat) for men and women. I don't find men attractive but make it equal since it just feels like Blizz hates on attractive women.
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This guy has a really bad voice
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>>537605296
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>>537606002
based loltards are the worst
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>>537605226
>40%
It's more like 60% honestly, entire anti cheat leadership got fired and they literally disabled bot detection for the most part in may, exactly the month where the "population increase" started, and right after a new CEO got in charge of gagex. It's pretty fucked out there
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>>537606260
I think the new CEO is making moves. I think the wow hardcore push wasn't organic. He starts off by speaking an anti-mtx sentiment in a video, and then right afterwards the wow people join. The game is getting fluffed up.
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>>537606142
Where are his pubes...?
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>>537606142
Not what I asked for but I am happy anyway? lol. Thanks

>>537606002
Sometimes I wonder if this website is actually attacked by people wanting to undermine Democracy but it's prob just a super wacko.
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>>537606002
Holy shit is he still doing that? I haven't played LoL in like 5 years and I remember him doing it even back then.
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>>537605078
i didnt ask for trannythyrs or evokers either
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>random male character compliments my mog
>say thanks
>they start flirting with me
>get annoyed and ignore them and they throw a fit
Is this how women feel unironically tho?
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>>537606002
Reminds me of /gw2g/ having to go offline for years because of one autist siccing a bot on it
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Midnight will be kino.
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>>537606002
Email verification fixed this btw
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>>537606002
I remember a faggot spamming the fire emblem thread for at least 5 years because a character adjacent to his waifu lost the popularity poll
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>>537606614
Democracy? Not exactly. More like to make shit not organic and push narratives like forced memes. Imagine if gay porn was spammed all day. The place would then be called a site full of gay porn.

>4chan? You mean the gay porn site?
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>>537605770
no it isnt
fuck off, bitch
>>537605813
sinful inquisitor leggings
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>>537607283
no it didnt
the owner of his proxies blacklisted him so he can no longer evade that way
some /wowg/ shitposters have admitted they are using the same shit to evade and shitpost
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>>537606614
democracy SUCKS
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i'm in moon guard goldshire for the first time and it looks like a bunch of people just kind of standing around
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>>537607746
what were you expecting?
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What happened?
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My alt only has 4 10s done, is that ok?
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>>537607780
idk people moving around more everybody is just standing completely still like they're waiting for something to happen
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>>537607891
you dont need more even on your main
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>>537607891
Bricked
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>>537607892
They are typefucking sweatily
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>>537607891
Mine only has 1 10 done bro, don't worry about it it's an alt
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>>537607852
enjoy your delves
no refunds
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>>537607962
delves are a massive improvement over expeditions
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>>537608063
>Turd with sprinkles are a massive improvement
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>>537607891
>>537607961
slackers
i haven't even tried hardmode tazavesh
seems like a waste of time if you're not incredibly overgeared and in voice
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Post Dwarves
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>>537607961
God I wish alex came back
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>>537608189
you know its true
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>>537607957
i figured that everybody there is playing one handed but seeing what that looks like visually is something i wasn't prepared for
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member djaradin?
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>>537608063
They were fun when they were new but now they are boring, they give no gear outside of week 1 before m+ is open and they obviously require a lot of the dev resources to make just to get basically abandoned.
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>>537608203
>i haven't even tried hardmode tazavesh
I managed to do it (pic related) but like you said unless you are in voice and are quite geared I wouldn't bother

>>537608237
Me too anon
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Imagine if TBC had as much effort as TWW had put into it.
Outland is just 4 zones.
Blood Elves are a neutral allied race that just use the Night Elf model and animations.
Like half the dungeons and raids.
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>>537608472
and the most boring gameplay ever with detrimental lore and dogshit zones and dogshit dungeons but good raids, almost like... WoD was better if you go by content
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>Chris Metzen
Chris Metzen
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>>537608412
>outside of week 1 before m+ is open
Blizzard heard your complaints and nerfed the mode showering you with rewards. Delves don't even give you the 1 heroic piece on the first week because maps are timegated lmao. May as well delete them at this point
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>>537608472
and shattrath is ruled by a gay one armed nigga
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Is Midnight about his prophecy?
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>>537608661
I meant the vault
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>>537608831
You think T11 should give you a mythic piece?
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>>537608821
That meme comic? No it's irrelevant and not canon
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>>537608624
wod would have been considered pretty decent if it came out after m+ existed and they cut the shit with garrisons as fast as possible instead of letting it linger all the way to sneedolands tbqh
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>>537608412
bountifuls always have a lot of people outside, it's more casual content
it was perfect the way it was in 11.0 tho, with some side rewards like rare materials that sold for a lot.
Which leaves me quite excited for prey, bc it's gonna be like Slayer from runescape, if they go the same route like they did with Delves before they nerfed the gold because of poorfags, then it's also gonna be quite a neat gold side reward in the form of rare materials for crafting
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>>537608959
Yes
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>>537608974
No, I meant the short story that came out during Cata
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>>537608976
no it would've been great if they finished what was planned for it instead of abandoning it in an early alpha stage
maze can fuck off cms were better
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>>537608624
really don't know why people keep felating the art team when isle of dorn exists
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>>537609104
There is literally nothing to do in this game without maze+
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>>537608976
I was obviously talking about tbc shit, the content was garbage and classic once again proved it
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>>537609236
there is more to do than ever before even without touching maze+
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I haven't done any t8's this week, kinda bored of WoW.
I want to hang in for 11.2.5, but it's hard to even do anything since I can't get my friend to play. I kinda want to do pvp, but the gearing process is so shit I don't even want to bother. God, they need to remove gear from pvp.
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>>537609237
nah it was pretty good and classic gameplay is better
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>>537609331
pvp is the easiest gearing it's ever been?
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>>537609324
yea like uuh.... uh..m....mh....
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I have not done any m+ yet
I can start next week and have the same experience as everyone else with no fomo added difficulty yes?
If no your game is bad
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>>537609350
then why did tbc classic flop so badly? I like raid logging in tbc but that's literally it, nothing else
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>>537609476
post your cheevo points
>uhh but i want to run the same 8 dungeons again and again
nice "content" you have there
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>>537609494
>I can start next week and have the same experience as everyone else with no fomo added difficulty yes?
correct, if anything it will be easier next week
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>>537607852
Remember when Azerite armor was barely tested and was designed so poorly it felt like an alpha version of artifact weapons rather than the sequel system to them
Remember when the best way to grind AP was to spam islands over and over again, which was just mind numbing grouping mobs up and AoEing them down
Remember when the launch warfront had no real failure condition, and the second one they designed was worse in every possible way
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>>537609596
37k, even with m+ there feels like not much to do
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>>537609350
>classic gameplay is better
Yeah for streamfags who, in the time it takes them to go from place to place on foot and between weapon swings and dodging that one ground fire, can interact with their audience.
For anyone else, it's a slog.
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>>537609125
My best friend says the Isle of Dorn is one of the best looking zones they've ever added. She is very, very mazed.
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>>537609742
you have done all the little shit there is to in karesh undermine and korthia? you got your peeveepee set on all classes you care about? you got as far into the raid as you wanted? you did your racist fomo shit kalimdor edition?
either roll a new class or unsub because you are done with the game for which I congratulate you
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>>537609819
wailing caverns at level 20 is genuinely harder and more fun than anything you'd encounter in retail before a +8 key
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Bro Classic came out over 6 years ago, we've seen what it's actually like and the peak of difficulty is playing on a hardcore realm and autorunning off a cliff or the game layering you into a full cave as a prank
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>>537609596
>wow anon, what do you mean there's nothing to do, you haven't gotten those taste 10 cheevo points for doing all the bear ass collecting quests in grizzly hills!
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>>537610015
No shit. At lvl 20 you don't have access to 90% of your kit and it's not hard just tedious
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Newcomer chat and the baby murloc icon on new players should last for a longer holy fuck it's so easy to make this system work, dont lock it to 30 hours played or level 70 what the fuckkkkkkk
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>>537610118
you genuinely have to be more locked in and use all the tools your class has as a level 30 that accidently pulls 3 mobs in the open world than you have to be in anything short of high end game content in retail. This is just true.
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>>537610137
so there is more to do but you dont want to do it. got it
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>>537610015
>fun
I don't think I ever had fun dealing with mobs that are suddenly 5+ levels higher meaning most of my abilities will miss or glance at best.
Shit like hit/expertise/weapon skill is why I won't touch classic as much as I would love to level through the old pre-catapozzed world.
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>>537609986
I haven't finished my k'aresh achievements yet, most of them are timegated over weeks like bounties and eco dome, i'm working on them over time and finishing the rep. I finished undermine and everything before, yes i did korthia i have the shadowlands meta achievement.
I only care about my main and yes i have the pvp set this season already. Cleared the raid and waiting until boost event to finish aotc. I did the kalimdor race the first time around, i guess i could do it again but whatever.
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hi *waves*
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>>537610391
yea retard nigger, I could go run 19 year old dungeons for a cosmetic I'll never wear, but that doesn't mean it's "something to do" in anything but the most retarded technical sense. kys.
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>>537610579
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They need a M+ system for the open world. Not Prey, but they need a new non-combat system altogether that takes up dozens and hundreds of hours of time and is evergreen across the world and isn't just a cosmetic collection activity
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>>537610272
This is a fact but they don't address this part, they just go to "looooool raids were soooo ez" cause it's the only argument they have, and one nobody but them cares about.
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>>537610579
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>>537610664
not possible without deleting flying which they've totally bitched out on
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>>537610625
and instead youre running 8 old dungeons for nothing not even a cosmetic pretending its different
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>>537610272
>only difficulty comes from low situational awareness and playing poorly
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>>537610408
>enter dungeon below the proper level
>be useless

wow... shocker....
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filled out my vault on my alt :)
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Do Horde RP guilds (WRA) let Dracthyr in? I haven't RPed in 5 years and never on Horde.
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>>537610664
They tried making the world harder in BFA with scaling. It didn't go well because you were killing the same shit for the same rewards but slower. The truth is even the most grueling activity in this game will become more fun if you add relevant rewards and no content is fun for long if all you get is a mount at the end or some meme currency. Give pet battles heroic/mythic gear rewards and watch as they explode in popularity
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https://www.wowhead.com/news/farm-these-legion-items-right-now-to-save-bronze-in-legion-remix-378375

As per our calculations on the most recent PTR build, if you don't own a single thing from Legion that is offered from the Legion Remix vendors, you will need lots and lots of Bronze: 8532000, to be exact.

JESUS FUCKING CHRIST
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>>537610958
>enter dungeon at "proper" level
>first third of the dungeon is green or grey mobs
wow what a sovlfvl design
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>>537611181
sorry zoomie, guess you just had to be there
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>brick a +12 key on first pull
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>>537611181
Reading must be hard
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>WME
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>>537611334
Why is key bricking still a thing?
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i like when i'm in a group with a tauren rogue
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>>537611181
I own everything from legion
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Would I be griefing if I just bought 2 pvp trinkets and went into bgs at 708 ilvl?
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>no raid nerfs
>no class balance
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>>537611419
based tauren rapist appreciator
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Why the fuck are people here busting their asses doing m10s?

The only reason to do a m10 is to get gear that can upgrade to 623 vs 610, but to upgrade all your hero gear to 610 literally takes nearly 1000 gilded crests. I doubt anyone here has that amount of dedication… maybe you guys are trying to get a myth weapon? Except you can just craft a 720 one that is literally 1% less dps… so that leaves trinkets. Your busting your asses in m+ to hope you get some meme trinket in the vault that will probably be nerfed?

Wow is literally an iq test at this point
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>>537611334
it gets worse
>spend like 10 minutes forming a team
>brick key immediately
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>>537611540
FIRE THIS RETARD NOW
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Early morning pugging!~
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>>537611583
BECAUSE BIS BRO BIS BIS BIS
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kys bitch
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>>537611583
>Wow is literally an iq test at this point
And you failed the test
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yo wtf
the raidfinder isnt availabe for my alt
what the fuc
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>>537610859
Yes, which is the ideal state of the open world. It should be easy to farm mobs if done properly, but require you to be somewhat engaged and on the look out for additional mobs and enemy players. Outside the high end content, an mmo should be a nice way to relax, but require you to pay attention at least a little bit.

Wailing caverns to go back to that, isn't really difficult, but it does demand you to pay attention. If you let the druid enemies cast sleep on your healer, you could wipe, requiring one of your players to find a solution to that. If you pull too many enemies, you could easily die, which means you'll likely to need to talk with your group.

Contrary to popular belief, the uber casualization of pre high end content has made the game way less casual friendly. Dad gamers want to play an actual video game, not a complete drool on yourself pointless light show for 300 hours before it becomes a video game when you're max level and past the first few tiers of the end game ladder.
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>>537611510
No way you have all of these
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>>537611181
>no mage tower mog
I dont care
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>>537611623
based PUGGOD
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>>537611792
raidfinder more like raid-i cant find 'er
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which one of you guys posted this
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>>537611847
kys faggot
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>>537611813
>cant do invasions solo anymore because you need other people to queue up at the same time
nice one blizzard
very nice indeed
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>>537611808
>reddit spacing
ignored
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>>537611873
Me.
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>>537611893
why so upset fren
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>>537609381
You sit and get rolled for hours until you're full conq, and then you're only a moderate threat because all the trihards have profession shit.
It should just be like a fucking fps game or something. No gear, just go pvp for the fun of it and then leave.
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>>537611902
Impossible to implement just like being able to solo warfronts
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>>537611904
Reddit spacing looks objectively better desu
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>>537612075
>desu
you have to go back
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>>537611739
Oh ok are you going to elaborate?

I heard you fuck kids and worship Satan.
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>be in a world 800 shitter guild
>loot council working as intended and officer squad fully geared after 2 weeks of first 3
>get to araz - hit the wall due to boosted apes
>gm says he will extend the lockout until we kill Araz
>he has every single item he needs from the first 3 bosses
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>>537611181
gonna level my main class in remix using the mage tower appearances :)
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>>537612026
they did this for a while and it was terrible
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>>537612148
leave.
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any valeera goonbait albums yet?
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>>537612148
>>gm says he will extend the lockout until we kill Araz
leave the guild, what the fuck lmao
all the bosses are a joke now up untill the nexus king and drop very good loot
t. in a top 50 guild on nexus king atm
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>>537612126
desu

desu

desu

desu

desu

desu
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>>537611813
I was wrong I do not have niskaran morning star and bloodseeker's bulwark.
also I'm remembering I never did the bloodfeather thing
I own almost everything form legion.
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>WoW has thousands! of hours of content to go back to! So much stuff to do and collect!

>all of WoW's old "content" is actually just 1-shotting old expansion mobs for a chance at rolling the dice for the mog/mount you actually want
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>>537611583
>Wow is literally an iq test at this point
Ironic coming from a retard who can't grasp this simple concept.
>a good myth item is there to stay on your character until the end of the season and some
>you are limited to one myth item per week unless you raid mythic
>you want those 3 slots so you have a choice
>even dropped hero item from a +10 is an upgrade over one from a +6 because it already is upgraded to a certain level as opposed to 1/6 that drops in +6 meaning you save on the timegated crests
>even if that item isn't BiS, it still counts and you can upgrade your currently worn piece for free
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>>537612148
I would genuinely try to lobby him and the officers that it's a dumb idea. Be nice about it though.
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Prot pallys make me nervous
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>>537612313
mog/mount that you will never use and you only "want" because it's checking off a box on your autistic to do list in most cases
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>>537612148
this is literally why mythic raiding is dying and will never recover
hope you mythic tranners are happy and that you will be content with 6 boss tiers
4 boss tiers
2 boss tiers
down to 1 boss tiers
but max just had to have lootmaster back
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>>537612417
this but blood dks
these guys are fucked
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>>537611904
>calls paragraphs reddit spacing
Stop trying to fit in, faggot.
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>>537612275
you have no clue why desu appeared in your comment and it shows
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>>537612313
The "content" liberace doesn't mattress if you put a mount mog or cheevo behind it, look at delves
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>>537612269
I absolutely agree, but what can you do with a retard leader like this? Getting into a new guild and securing a raid spot is a huge pain in the ass at the start of the tier. His excuse is allegedly "recruitment" because he wants to replace shitters and its easier once you're 5/8M but the guy is an absolute idiot. The only thing keeping me inside the guild is that I like the people and the fact that gear will turbo nerf the raid so by the time we get to Nexus King and Dimmie it will be an absolute joke.
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>>537612148
too bad 10-man mythic raids aren't a thing yet
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>>537612313
It also has thousands of quests and storylines, idk how many zones and reputations and other lesser mechanics like island expeditions and torghast
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>>537612530
you are in such a cool kids club dude you are are so totally cool ddood
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>>537612148
lol
lmao even
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>>537612530
You are genuinely low iq and should stop trying to gotcha people when you likely have trouble understanding stat values in this game
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i didnt think pugging mythic on week 3 would be so easy
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>>537612594
name a quest line worth reading in wow within other than the alzheimer one
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glad i have my rain gear on!
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>>537612814
blue dragonflight one in df
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>>537612594
>look inside
>instakill mobs for 10 hours to get a cosmetic
>instakill mobs for 10 hours for a chance to get a cosmetic
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These new apex talent things are kinda lame. bad idea overall
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>>537612814
Legion class hall campaign
Runas questline
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>>537612868
I said in wow within
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Stormwind on AD is rather comfy at this hour with none of the dr*cthyr, worgen, half elves and other second life-tier retards being offline and probably headed to daycare or school
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what time do you guys go to sleep by? do you guys sleep early so you can open vault and then start doing keys or whatever?
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I feel like I have to watch a youtube video on what the fuck I'm even supposed to do in a patch if I resub to this game, I log in to my level 80 with like 615 gear from when the expac came out and it's all gay currencies and weeklies and what the fuck I hate this game why did I resub fuck this
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>>537612910
Yeah thats the game, you can trivialize any game as press buttons and kill mob to win. You're not as clever as you think
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>Actually quite hyped about Annihilator hero tree for DH
>Suddenly want to level a VDH
>Velf can't be DH right now, so my sole pick is Night elf (I don't like em' as DH) or Blood elf (I play on Argent dawn)
Man, I wish the Draenei / Orc DH leak was true
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why do boomer gamers refer to only some of the older wow expansions as raid-logging ones? weren't they all raid-logging? what else could you all have been doing at level cap when it wasn't raid night or whatever? did you just herb shit or farm rep somewhere?
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>>537613102
My circadian rhythm is nonexistent.
I just go to bed a couple hours later each day till it wraps back around.
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>>537613012
The other anon was talking about old wow content
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>>537613156
You know what I'm saying retard
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>>537612148
I just experience being in a w800 guild, leadership is genuinely clueless and self sabotaging. You should do yourself a favor and either just accept this is gonna happen. If your raiding 9hours (3x3), genuinely just try and look for a w300ish guild (thats when they start getting semi human leadership I believe, at least the w300 guilds ive been in have been more human and reasonable). They do the shit they do because it now works (it didnt used to), because they know people are just gonna get giga geared from keys and raid reknown track nerfs content really hard. Reclear is generally the "fun" part of raid while theres gear to be gotten and its a great break from monotony and improves retention.

There is absolutely no reason to ever extend until you clear a TRULY hard boss (no point in extending before smolderon, no point in extending before painsmith), I hate what the brainrot of this gearing system has done to casual guilds, they treat it like they are pushing WR when they are w800 (there are some 2day week guilds in top 150).
>>537612269
Yeah I agree, the GM is self sabotaging himself and your sabotaging yourself for being in such a retarded guild.
>>537612559
>Getting into a new guild and securing a raid spot is a huge pain in the ass at the start of the tier.
Yeah it is, however you can pug first 2 mythic to get the loot train rolling (killing first 2 opens vault slots for loomi as well for some reason).
>will turbo nerf the raid so by the time we get to Nexus King and Dimmie it will be an absolute joke.
If they play like that every tier they are actually relying on those nerfs so those bosses will still be hard for them (i know its fucking retarded). Your really signing up for a painful experience regardless because you have to deal with the knowledge that its free as fuck if people dont die. Also your recruitment prospects wont increase if you arent ahead of the bell curve btw (you will actually just bleed good players if anything)
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Like log on for raid.. and then the guy didn't log on and he typed.. he typed
>it's push week
>it's push week!
And then they kicked him out of the guild! Fucking dogshit entitled M+ players dude, holy, NOBODY CARES ABOUT YOUR PUSH WEEK! YOU DOGSHIT M PLUSSER! BRAINDEAD! UNLESS YOU'RE WINNING THE FUCKING MDI, WHO ARE YOU!? WHAT IS YOUR PUSH WEEK DOING? Stupid mother fucker!
MUH PUSH WEEK!
Whatcha pushing bud?
WHATCHA pushing bud??
You're not pushing shit!
You competing with JPC and fucking Echo and all the- NO YOU'RE NOT DUDE, YOU'RE NOT! You're just some dogshit survival hunter playing flavor of the month, you dropping all the bombs, your screen's lightning up, you mashing your fucking buttons and then you're saying "PUSH WEEK"
HOLY SHIT, GET PUSHED OUT OF THE GUILD, YOU STUPID FUCK!
Anyway, yo can i get a summon?
https://www.twitch.tv/gromnak/clip/HedonisticBelovedRavenPeteZaroll-47M96U7k10lmXzI7
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>>537613174
Play alts and raidlog with them too
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>>537613296
this guy got kicked out of my friends guild during heroic clear lol
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>>537613174
Every time somebody posts this quizzical Yumi I'm overcome with a wave of twenty year old class S nostalgia.
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If I die to the flask that's your fucking fault bro, if I die to shadow word death that's also your fucking fault bro. Take some fucking accountability and heal the people in the mother fucking raid and stop making fucking excuses. Nothing else to say. It's fucking annoying. Entitled fucking healers, on god. Holy fucking shit, holy shit.
Fucking m+ healer overload, jesus fucking christ.. Full of fucking- we have a foUR O NINE HEALER WITH FUCKING GREENS ON!!
NO EFFORT!
HEY BRO!! YOU PUMPED IN BFA!
WANNA JOIN BACK AND RAID?
JOIN THE RAID, BUD!
IT'S FINE IF YOU HAVE GREENS ON!
YOU REALLY PUMPED IN FREEHOLD 2018!!
HOW ABOUT YOU JOIN MY FUCKING RAID!
YEAH BRO!
HOLY FUCKING SHIT, FUCKING M PLUSSERS INFESTING MY MOTHER. FUCKING. RAID.
WE GOTTA GET DONALD TRUMP TO BUILD THE FUCKING WALL AROUND OUR RAID SO THESE FUCKING M+ RATS DON'T GET IN!
GET ME THE FUCK OUT
https://www.twitch.tv/gromnak/clip/ExuberantCrepuscularHippoKappaClaus-lOKY6gDV6WKIDN24
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1111111222222211223344 wwwwwwqqqweewwsssssssssss11sswww33
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>>537613296
>>537613474
i dont get it
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>>537613565
you had to be there
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>>537613174
leveling alts was actual content pre cata, and mop had enough dailyslop to keep you kinda busy.
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>>537613603
be where
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>>537613474
i wish trump built a wall around this site too so all the browns and avatartrannies are rangebanned from it
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>>537613474
this is too funny
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Is there an addon that provides a way of filtering content/bread crumb quests by patch?

>Return to the game, want to do things in a reasonably-accurate chronological order:

[ ] 11.07 - The Siren Isle < --- ticked, so only quests that are immediately relevant to 11.07 appear on the map
[ ] 11.1 - Undermine
[ ] 11.2 - K'aresh

Dornogal is a FUCKING MESS.
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>>537613174
There was a point when achievements were a brand new thing, so people would go around the world to complete all the quests, explore map /kiss all the critters and so on.
Now we're at the point where all this is redundant.
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>>537613984
playing late xpac is always such a pain in the ass if you don't look up what to do because you just have all this .1 content literered around that is already completely pointless
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we fucking lost him
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>>537613474
Admittedly healers are the most entitled retards in the game with how they always have someone else to blame ("tank didn't use defensives", "use your healthstone", "other healers didn't use their CD" etc.) unless they are in M+ where it's usually clear when a healer fucks up or is terrible. Particularly when it's about unavoidable damage that some players can easily handle while also DPSing a mob whilst others playing the same class at around the same ilvl have to pop every cooldown to outheal.

And holy fuck there are so many bad healers in M+ it stops being funny at 12+ and above keys.
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>>537614142
who + why should i care
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>>537614101
I remember killing 100s of spiders for that guild critter killing cheevo

couldn't even fathom bothering with shit like that these days, but I think back then when there weren't 10000 billion achievements for doing shit you were gonna do anyway it was easier to care

achievements should have ALWAYS been weird stuff you wouldn't normally do, playing the game normally should net you almost 0 cheevo points, if they were all an invitation to go do some weird shit they'd work much better as content.
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>>537613474
Segregating M+ and raids is a great idea desu
>I no longer have to do raids for the good trinkets and special effect items that are bis
>raiders no longer have to apply to my keys just to be able to raid
>everyone is happy
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>>537614142
good riddance, hope joshua stays there and quits WoW even after the marvel rivals general exiles him for being a pedotranny creep
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>>537614143
Healing is trivially easy if your party is good until you get to pushing pointlessly high keys, so most healers never learn how to push their class beyond the basics.
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What are your thoughts on draenei(male) players
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>>537613102
im est so im always up for it
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>>537614285
would straight kill raiding entirely
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>>537614510
I don't think about them at all
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>>537614143
>tanking priory
>die sometime during the first big lust pull
i am not sure if it is my fault or the healer's fault, but i did use my cooldowns and i have tanked that pull successfully in the past
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>>537614280
>couldn't even fathom bothering with shit like that these days
Yep, same.
Unless there's some funny title or cool mog/mount, I cba.
Also
>guild achievements
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>>537614510
Best hunter race,
Shit in every other department.
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is it hard to get into healing? might wanna give it a try, it's between shaman or priest
i only play mag'har orcs..
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>>537613102
on work nights i shoot for midnight
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is it gay to listen to owl city?
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>>537614510
I assume I'm looking at someone who wanted to play a horde male but got bullied into playing alliance by their friends before crossfac was a thing and never changed.
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>>537614631
lol i forgot that monks can also play healer spec, i forgot they even exist, never see them, but its still between shammy or priest
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>>537614574
No it wouldn't just like segregating PVP and PVE didn't kill either. Integrating them did more harm to both. See shadowlands gearing
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>>537613474
>>537613296
based gromposter
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>>537614750
Shaman
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>>537613174
Wow was and still is a casual mmo that you are supposed to raid log a night or two a week with your bros. Similar to guys that bowl a few nights a week with their bros. It was literally designed by gen x boomer age people who lived in an era where bowling every thurs night with their pals was a thing. People that play this game seriously or solo are going against the core game philosophy. You aren’t supposed to even care that much if you clear raids because you are having fun hanging out and drinking beers and shit.
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is there a way to put other shit on my resource display like trinket procs?
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>>537614142
how is femthyr holding up?
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>>537614631
Getting into it can be pretty difficult because it's hard to tell what's your fault and whats the party's fault when you start, and it generally gets easier as you go up in difficulty, ie +3 key is harder than +9, because of the calliber of player.

But it's fun once you know what you're doing and has the most potential for extremely autistic optimization and taking super easy both.
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>>537614143
>"tank didn't use defensives", "use your healthstone", "other healers didn't use their CD" etc.
All valid points. Try using defensives and healthstones if you want to survive next time
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>>537614938
Yeah get weakauras
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>>537614810
>didn't kill pvp

yea... haha... sure...
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>>537613260
Ah my fellow kin. I know this pain. We suffer well.
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>>537614995
DUDE WEAKAURAS

I hate this shit game
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>>537615106
Use Tell Me When then or Power Auras Classic
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>>537614818
if you raid in classic you're probably retarded

but level 1-40 on a fresh classic pvp realm? That is the best wow ever gets.
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Vulpera ret paladins...
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Someone should make a wow clone with all furry playable races
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>>537615081
Try to explain how not forcing PVE players to PVP is a bad thing that killed PVP because I don't get it. I do randoms, a bit of 3s, shuffle and blitz but I do so by choice not because I'm forced to like I am forced to raid for bis I need for keys or like (some) raiders are forced to do keys to raid.
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>>537614510
Fridge
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The game died when horde got b**** e****
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>>537615194
>pvp realm
nah fuck that. ive had more fun coordinating with the opposing faction without chat when a group quest needs to be done and there arent enough players around. ganking other questing retards gets boring after 15 min
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>>537614941
I'll be sure to take good care of her.
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>>537615369
>forcing
if you are mentally retarded and think you need to be optimal. If you just like playing the game, it's very nice that all forms of playing game benefit you. Shadowlands conq gear was genuinely really cool to have in the game. I hate pve/pvp only fags so much.
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>>537614941
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>>537615517
if you think anything in this game beats level 35 blood feuds in the shimmering flats you were not born with the spirit of a warrior and most likely have brown eyes.
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>>537614954
Thanks, figured I'd do Frostwolf Shaman since I have Shadowmoon Shadow priest.
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>>537615674
>warrior
>calling others brown
nice joke I laughed
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>>537614142
THANK FUCKING CHRIST
God
i will never ask you for anything else
thank you so much
thank you
thank you
thank you
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>>537615209
Nope, Blizzard staff cries it's too much work and gets fired again.
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>>537615740
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>>537615740
ESL award
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>>537615674
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NC5aCysYI_U
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You did touch grass in Elwyn with your bare feet in today right anon?
Doctors said it is good to do it before you pve or pvp in WoW
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>>537615872
FUCK YUO BLOODY
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>>537615106
>DUDE WEAKAURAS
As opposed to
>DUDE PALADINHELPER
>DUDE TRINKETBUDDY
>DUDE CONSUMABLEREMINDERFRIEND
shit we got since vanilla all the way until fairly recently when weakauras became the one definitive tool, since it's pretty much a wysiwyg addon editor.
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>>537615556
You haven't explained how NOT forcing players to play parts of the game they don't like is killing said parts. If they want to play everything they can still do so just like I do keys and PVP. I would gladly drop raiding if it didn't mean gimping myself. Someone wants to keep doing both? Nothing is stopping him.
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>>537616061
>forcing
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>>537616103
Still waiting for your explanation but it sounds like you don't have one.
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Anyone folow this twitter account? Dude legit ran put of content
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>>537601349
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>>537615984
NOOOOOOOOO THATS A LIE NO ONE USED ADDONS IN MY HECKIN NILLA
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i've never seen a kul tiran or tauren rogue

not sure i've ever seen an earthen player either, lol
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>>537615914
ya...
what the fuck is this shit
some monster twice your size wants to throw down and you think you're going to block that shit
nigga every bone in your arm is going to break
orcs arent even that big comparatively to humans anyways
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>>537616336
True
People edited MPQ files instead
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>>537602312
sex
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>>537603013
red one
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why is this and bismuth randomly selling for so much?
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As a dude RPer I used to get lots of 30-45 year old bio fem orbiters. How do I do that on again Horde? Like what races do women play and enjoy RPing with there? I used to main Alliance only.
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>>537606142
been thinking a lot and you know what's missing from this pic? my head between her legs
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>>537616379
>HumanMaletoUndeadMale.MPQ (rename to patch-4.MPQ)
SOVL
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>>537616648
why would you ever want 30-45 year old women roleplayers in world of warcraft around you
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>>537614917
>You aren’t supposed to even care that much if you clear raids because you are having fun hanging out and drinking beers and shit.
Since Ion has become game director this isn't true anymore.
He's so raid autistic that if it were up to him the login screen would just teleport you to dungeons and raids and Azeroth and quest wouldn't exist.
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>>537616725
It's funny.
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>>537616750
I doubt that. Don't forget he was a boosted gray parsing shaman. Maybe he was good when elitist jerks were relevant and the game was piss easy but that's no longer the case.
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>>537614510
I want a gay one to be my bf because male draenei are rare but sexy.
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>>537608217
kino
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>>537616161
You aren't "Forced' to do anything unless you feel "forced" to have the best possible character. The point of an mmo is to make your character number go up. All forms of content should be a valid way to make your character number go up. They should not all be segregated. When they are segregated, partipating in them becomes a binary choice, because the gear from your "main" form content is useless there. The only reason pvp and pve are habitually segregated and reintegrated every few years, is that there is a conflict of interest in blizzard knowing that all forms of content should be valid ways to increase character power, and that segregating any content kills it, and like 1/2 of the entire player base being giant pussies that will cry tears of bitter rage if you put "play 1 casual bg" quests in their welfare legendary quest line.
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>>537616854
Gross, go back to Drac form.
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>>537616601
Leyline res used in the most popular flasks
Bismuth used in basically every craft for three profession.
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i sold a heroic BoE with avoidance for 110k today... very quickly. i think i undersold myself LOL. oh well live and learn I guess.
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>>537617473
>avoidance
oh absolutely, very popular for helping survive high m+ keys
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>>537616874
Players that were good in vanilla think they're good for all time.
Look at Preach, he still thinks he's a world first raider when he sucks ass.
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>>537617440
yes but it's randomly spiked in the past 2 days
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>>537617539
Yeah I guess I just figured the DISC belt would undervalue it because most people tend to replace the belt once they get a Myth track anyways. Still cant complain about a free 100k tho i suppose.
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>>537617614
yea for sure, grats on sale eitherway! ^^
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wow is back
metzen is back
we are back
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>finish delve
>forget to take weekly quest
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>they re-used the waist of time belt
lol
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https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/news/everyones-replaying-the-blood-elf-story-before-midnight-hits-and-silvermoon-is-getting-busy/

WE ARE SO BACK, BIMBODOREI SIS
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>>537617770
the 0/100 quest?
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>>537617795
Unthinkable!
They've never reused models before!
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>>537617852
Yeah
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>>537617795
Whole "expansion" is nothing but recycled old or cut content
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Wait a minute, wait a fucking minute, is the whole reason blizz mostly doing "head-shoulder-belt" """""""""sets"""""""" because of fucking drackthyrs?
jesus christ how embarrassing
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>>537613474
Good M+ players are good in raids
Good raiders are not necessarily good in M+
M+ has a lot more personal responsibility than in raids, raiding for most people is an exercise in patience until your braindamaged group manages to not fuck up the "group 1 soak group 2 soak"
Most people are barely sentient on a good day and in raids you really see it
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cream flowing
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>>537617795
RECOLORS?
IN MY WORLO?
NOBODY ASKED FOR THAT!
NOBODY EVER ASKS FOR MORE RECOLORS!
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>>537616854
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mandela effect: in 8.3 there were not three zones, but only two - uldum and vale
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>>537618003
>Wait a minute, wait a fucking minute, is the whole reason blizz mostly doing "head-shoulder-belt" """""""""sets"""""""" because of fucking drackthyrs?
No, they're doing it because they're fucking lazy.
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>>537617795
Based, means I don't have to do that questline, at least for a blue outfit.
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If blood elves came out today they would be a recolored version of night elves
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>>537618006
>M+ has a lot more personal responsibility
Such as interrupting every 15 secs
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>>537618252
Kek
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>>537618246
why? you know that blood elves and draenei were originally based on models of other races and had the same animations, and only later were they changed?
just like the dracthyr and haranir
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>interrupts are not baseline for all classes, have to waste a talent point to take it

Please fire Ion now
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>>537616601
>I sold my residue and bismuth merches at just about break even prices
Oops!
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I just figured out how to save forum culture (for example, the official WoW forum)
They just need to release a convenient mobile app for it
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>>537617246
You are explaining why you think I'm wrong about being forced, not how not being forced to do do anything you don't want is a bad thing. Willingly deciding not to progress your character in a competitive environment such as wow - be it raidlogger parses, M+ score, PVP rating - is just detrimental and stupid if you want to go above 3K, heroic raiding, 1800 where you start needing every advantage you can get to progress further, Some people are content with staying where they are. Others find it fun to challenge themselves and go higher. By tying every activity together you have to go all in. By keeping activities segregated you can focus only on the things you like.
>When they are segregated, partipating in them becomes a binary choice, because the gear from your "main" form content is useless there
PVPers didn't like having to farm raid trinkets either when they were busted in PVP. PVErs didn't like having to do PVP for their keys or raids or stay behind in the gear department. Right now nothing is stopping someone like you or me who like both PVE and PVP from playing both.
>if you put "play 1 casual bg" quests in their welfare legendary quest line
It was win 2 and it wasn't fun for the PVErs who had to do the quest with no resilience gear OR the PVPers who had to try and carry their asses. Some Kotmogu and Silvershard games were decided entirely by which team had fewer dragonslayers and it wasn't fun for anybody.

Segregating PVP from PVE them didn't kill either and I still don't see how segregating M+ from raids would kill raiding which was your initial claim. If you think it would then you automatically agree that players are indeed forced into it as they'd stop participating as soon as they aren't... forced to. So which one are you wrong about?
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>>537618252
Most players fail at this simple task
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>Hozen
>Jinyu
>Ethereals
>Sethrak
>Ogres
>Arakkoa
>Real mechagnones
>Gnolls
>NAGA
>Vrykul
>Dracinoids
>Tuskarr
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>>537618592
Doesn't matter as most people don't do M+ high enough where interrupting every single cast matters
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>>537618519
they need to make real ID a thing again
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>>537618006
>soaking is too hard for mplussies
not a good look sister
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>>537618246
I see you're frustrated your previous post didn't get much traction, here's a pity (You) and stop reposting your fanfic.
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>>537618684
i thought they just planned to add it and it was never a thing
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>>537608821
New writers probably don't know who is he.
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/wowg/+
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>>537618428
>everyone can jump
>but only one class can sprint
Explain this.
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>>537618675
>ara-kara
>halls of atonement
>dawnbreaker
>interrupts not mattering
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>>537618675
Post more, really like to witness you out yourself as total shitter.
Always funny to see.
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>TWW was low on the content and balncing patches and bug fixes because dwvs were working on Midnight
>Midnight gets announced
>Its major patch content wise

?
How big is the wow dev team?
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>>537618923
>>537618968
>M+ players delusional as always
Tale as old as time
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if you are not a mythic raider what do you want your ilvl to be at this week ?
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>>537619059
not big enough to balance specs before the season is practically over
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>>537619059
What the fuck are you talking about, there was a hotfix literally every day early into TWW to the point people were actually complaining about it.
Shut your lying ass, bitch.
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>>537619110
718+
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>>537619110
anything below 705 is shitter tier
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>>537619084
>shitter has zero arguments
I mean you clearly are a shitter, I guess fair enough you got nothing to say.
lol
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>>537618006
As an officer who had to deal with multiple pushers I assure you that is wrong.
They act like parsesluts without being good at it.
They avoid responsibility.
They cause drama in whispers.
They jump guilds like it's a pug.
They /gquit as soon as they get what they want.
We always have one at the back of our minds when someone with more than 3.5k applies as we have been burned too many times.
Our GM made a secret rule to mark anyone who mentions an item being his BIS in keys but not raids as low loot priority.
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OH NO NO NO NO

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

DEAD GAME
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>>537619110
i dont do any mythics and itd be nice to break 700
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>>537619252
you mean after this week right
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>*devours your spot as most popular class*
FOTM trash tier spec

That reminds me I need to level one.
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>>537619306
I mean right meow
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>>537619274
You could be 700 on the first week just by spamming keys sister
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https://warcraft.wiki.gg/wiki/WoW_Remix:_Legion

None of this looks interesting
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>>537619352
I get to make another crafted this week? I didn't play last season
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>>537619324
do it on remix!!!
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>>537619484
they are leaving cms and mage tower appearances for the rerun
its all about the engagement metrics
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What is it with the shitters here and seething about M+?
Do you faggots not play the game or something? No one who does is sitting in delves all day.
t. does raids, M+, delves and pvp
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>>0537619587
dont you get tired of baiting for (You)s the exact same way every day? do you at least get paid for it?
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i tried to make a low-fantasy knight type transmog, honest thoughts please? i've never been good with transmog, im trying :/
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>>537619774
It's not bad imo. Get better boots tho. Boots needing some work.
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>>537619682
What are you talking about?
This is the first time I ask this after months of seeing the retards here bitch about the existence of m+
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>>537610702
worgen paladins when
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>>537619587
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>>537619774
Looks like a shitty hunter set desu
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that day will be feb 2026
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>>537615106
As opposed to
>dont like castbar? Use quartz
>cant track dr? Use gladius
>dont like raid frames? use grid
>dont know when trinkets proc? use tellmewhen
>forget when raid buff drops? use pallypower
Literally its all the same shit nigga
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>>537619956
Who the fuck is this!
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>>537613012
this one in ringing deeps
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when i am king of the universe all wowg frens will be honored and rewarded with many elf, draenei, human, furry, and scalie wives.

it won't be long now.
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>>537620059
I don't need to be honred; I'll create them myself.
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>>537612687
nice gz. gonna be even easier with turboboost again next patch
>>537612850
we need seasons
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>>537620059
dwarfbros... gnomesisters... we lose again
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>>537620010
Me(irl)
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I'm just not going to do it... haha.. delves as a DPS is all
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>>537616854
how does this image make you feel
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>>537619938
addons shouldn't be a requirement. this game sucks
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>>537614510
he looks like he buck breaks orc MEN
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>>537619938
rip droodfocus
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>>537620581
You always needed add-ons thoughever
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>>537619261
Very based and correct, I used to raid with skylarked (hes like a top 10 pooosher) a very long time ago and that nigger ate every piece of avoidable damage. Do you call them a stupid nigger and to shut the fuck up when they start going on about keez?

The issue is the bad doers have soured that progression path for new players and with turbo boost existing those cunts need to just touch a boss and they are done with the tier. I could not imagine whats it like in even lower tier guilds
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Everyone whine about class balance but nobody cares about adding some extra animations like open windows in goldshire or trees/grass wind aniamtion or even snow on them.
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>>537620581
Literally has been the case since 2004
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Trolls>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Elves.
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race and class for pussyfree cuck?
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>wanna play wow
>remember that there isn't anything that would make the game feel refreshing
>sit and think about wow instead
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>>537620831
>Do you call them a stupid nigger and to shut the fuck up when they start going on about keez?
We tell them we do not give a shit about keys. End of story.
It's not a problem unique to our guild because they have learned to be less vocal about it as expansions went on probably because they know how it ends.
We have some begging in whispers. At the start of almost every season we have to tell people to stop with the whispered bids and that if someone gets the item he gets to equip it and that's final.
We have some niggers rolling on shit they dont really need. Sometimes they put a note saying why but most of the time they don't so we have to ask them why are they rolling on shit that's not their bis. My favourite is when they say it's bis in keys.
This mostly stopped being a problem after we began using wowaudit where everyone has to upload a droptimizer sim before each raid or they get no loot at all.
It is really a shame that it has come to this and I can see why more and more players give up on raiding or the game itself but what can you do?>
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No one wants an augslut anymore...
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Rdf or lfr pugs should give the player a WoW PvE IQ test before they are allowed to que.
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>>537621971
>que
looks like you'd fail
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>>537621830
Boosted trash spec played by terrible players who brick keys
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>>537621971
>you now remember when Blizzard forced you to do proving grounds before you could queue for heroic dungeons
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>>537621396
>This mostly stopped being a problem after we began using wowaudit where everyone has to upload a droptimizer sim before each raid or they get no loot at all.
Do people do that shit now? thats kinda cringe (sims can be very bad at representing reality if not configured correctly). I raided mythic in a <W200 guild and the only times sims came up were for trinkets, but we used the honor system heavily (if your a nigger and click bis on every item you are just not gonna get loot, and the reality is theres like 20+ different configurations of "bis" within probably 100 dps of each other so honestly representing how good an item is for you is better than a droptimizer sim which can effectively lie). Im waiting for Liquid Max to say that 1 giganiga sweat (raid leader pref) doing LC is better than an array of incompetent officers who are just seniors (promotes a vision for loot going to the correct people, and accountability)

Also I had a friend raid in a low WR(like 1000) guild who did that and he was like <20WR at his peak and constantly getting poachmail and stuff, and they refused to give him loot because he thought it was insanely stupid and cringe, and kicked him for it even though he was doing it to play with a friend (which i agree its fucking insanely cringe and stupid and is only there to control the absolute scum of any guild).
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>>537621971
before you queue an M+ you should need to do last boss of streets without any NPC's to follow or a healer to make up for your mistakes
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>>537602312
>>537603171
Why are fem nelf dhs so slutty, speaking of which, I'm dropping new sloppa today
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>>537622352
Honestly, Streets is my favorite dungeon this season.
I was afraid the whole cantina event would be a slog, but it's fine, and the last boss IQ check is just chef's kiss.
Remove the RP and it's perfect.
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>>537622171
>you now remember that Blizzard had to remove proving grounds because a majority of players where too stupid to complete them
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>>537622781
It's not my fault demon hunters decide to wear the bare minimum, I'm just keeping that trend.
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>>537621971
no but they should absolutely give them a freebie item at the end of the raid. two weeks now lfr no loot both weeks
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Do I need to take this talent? I like mashing buttons.
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>>537623181
Getting loot in LFR is brutal because a lot of people que it each week just to earn transmog so everybody is always needing on everything.
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>>537622285
>Do people do that shit now?
I know we do against our better judgement. Our GM doesn't like it either considering he's the one who has to pay for it but it solved many of our loot problems.
It tells us if 6/6 item is an upgrade for X and by how much in relative % which helps weed out lootwhores.
Obviously we do not blindly give it to whoever gets the most %. Performance, attendance, consistency play a major role but if helps us narrow down potential recipients down to a few people who really need and deserve the item.
Some of us were even trying to prioritize giving loot to good new members (glorified extended trials who were only made members out of courtesy as the real trial lasts for half a season even if no one wants to admit it) in hopes to retain them even if it comes at the expense of core raiders.
Yes it is cringe, yes it is one of the main reasons raiding is dying but it is what it is. The alternative was playing russian roulette
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>>537623262
Oh god not you again, the most retarded person to have ever touched the warrior class.
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>>537623262
https://murlok.io/warrior/protection/m+#talents-specialization

yes
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>>537623262
>изoбpaжeниe
brother you already need to spam the shit out of thunderclap ignore pain and shield slam and revenge blyat
>>537623301
>to earn transmog
at least they need the item albeit for vanity
some kikes are rolling on good items just to sell them if someone in the group is willing to pay for it
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>>537623262
If you have enough time to spam Devastate between all the other things you should be pressing, then you're doing wrong.
That was my answer the first time you asked and it still applies today.
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>>537623301
i exactly do this and guaranteed loot makes people not feel like its a waste of time
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Be honest. Are YOU rerolling Devourer DH in Midnight?
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>>537623460
>>537623398
Alright thx.

>>537623321
This is the first time I asked something about warrior itt. Fuck off.
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>>537623165
>demon hunters decide to wear the bare minimum
As they should
https://files.catbox.moe/xupkj7.png
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Another expansion without
>High Elves
>Forest Trolls
>Ogres
>Naga
>Satyrs
>Ethereals
>Saberon
>Cult of the Damned Human customization
>Red skinned Orcs customization
>Skinny Kultirans
>Paladins for all
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>>537623262
Are you the same retarded dude from a week or so ago?
It's fucking 84 APM, you are never not hitting something.
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>>537623541
Why the hell would I? Just because it's new?
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>>537623583
>Red skinned Orcs customization
best we can do is brown
>Ethereals
best we can do is an enchanting item
>Ogres
best we can do is a leatherworking suit
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>>537623541
No
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>>537623543
Yeah right dude. As if we don't remember you asking this same retarded question before. It's a question genuinely so dumb that nobody else would ever ask it. You fundamentally don't understand how prot works cause you don't have room to even press devastate, we went over this before and ignored everything and said
>buh buh buh i want to mash buttons

Like two retards ask the exact same insane question that makes no sense and both have the exact same dumb drooling cop out reason why?
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I don’t care about parses because I’m not trans. Aren’t your parses heavily influenced by group performance?
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im so fucking close
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>>537623262
you've asked this a few days ago retard, trolling with 5 faces don't work here
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>>537623876
Close to what anon?
https://litter.catbox.moe/ro7j9e.png
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>>537623791
Yes and ilvl and stats and trinkets and how many mechanics you got and how fast the boss dies and how many aug buffs/pis you got and how much could you pad on the squishy adds but good luck explaining that to the idiots who treat parses as an absolute representation of what could be expected of you.
Only remotely relevant parse this tier is Fractilus because it's literally Patchwerk but people are finally moving to other numbers such as avoidable damage taken score. That indicates a better raider nowadays. You can tell if someone is doing bad damage just by looking at the damage meter
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>>537623919
>>537623746
>>537623591
I played protwar at the start of DF last time of fucking course I don’t remember how to play it.
Whatever believe what you want.
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>>537624114
Why anyone doing this irrelevant content? Mount only drops in mythic
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>>537623791
Yes and also how RNG decides on who does mechanics.
Like when you have to run away with shit to drop, you won't parse as well as a guy who is on target 100% time.
Ofc those who know, know - and they will check logs for how many times you got a certain debuff and whatnot, but majority are mouthbreathing retards who only look at the color of your parse number.
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>>537624075
Then look at the talents which stem from this one and ask yourself if you can get away without them.
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>>537624075
Watch swifty 1shot macros to feel like a true warrior desu
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>>537624183
>Ofc those who know, know - and they will check logs for how many times you got a certain debuff and whatnot
Those are also the first to press F5 and congratulate the orange parsers after repeating "IDC about logs just do mechanics" for the past 50 pulls
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>>537624167
I want rep for the dino
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>>537624167
>Mount only drops in mythic
No?
There is a 1% chance mount that drops in all 4 difficulties
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>>537624302
Oh yeah, forgot about the raid renown track
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>>537624047
>people are finally moving to other numbers such as avoidable damage taken score. That indicates a better raider nowadays. You can tell if someone is doing bad damage just by looking at the damage meter

Quit in 05 came back for late mop. My opinion then once I relearned the game was that dps meters ruined the game. People called me an idiot noob but 15000 hours later I still have that opinion. People refuse to kick do mechanics or avoid easily avoidable damage just to see their stupid dos numbers go up. I’m willing to bet at least a third of the wipes and bricked keys raids etc are a result of people trying to push their dps at the cost of group performance. It’s so terrible that even though I have that opinion I do it all the time myself.
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>>537624114
Bit late for undermine lfr at this point in the week except for gallywix.
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>>537624403
well if you don't people will treat you as a complete shitter becuz hurr low damage
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>>537624460
I'm only renown 13 ;_;
I resubbed late in the season. And then I didn't know about the mount for a few weeks.
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>>537624114
If you really want to farm LFR for transmog or whatever you NEED to do it on reset day.
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>>537621830
What the people want is irrelevant. What they need, is a leader.
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>>537624403
>Quit in 05
No one cares, people used DPS meters back in 2005 too

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Br1hXGXJ7Tg
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>>537624502
I’m talking about people causing wipes so they can do 3% more damage

>>537624641
No one used dps meters in 05 outside of autistic tryhards if you played the game back then you would know. People didn’t even care if you played a shitty meme spec with terrible damage.
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>>537624776
No one uses dps meters nowadays except autistic tryhards :^)
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>>537624776
>I’m talking about people causing wipes so they can do 3% more damage
>mfw did that twice during dimensius prog to get my gray parse up to blue
no one found out
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I use dps meters
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>>537623317
>It tells us if 6/6 item is an upgrade for X and by how much in relative % which helps weed out lootwhores.
okay but ill use my character for example, Generally your looking at a stat array of 40%mast 30%haste 20% crit 10% vers. My character sims the 704 crit mast neck from saldhazzar as a negative dps upgrade compared to a shitty 694 haste vers neck he has, however if i change my cape and 2 gems its now a 2-3% dps increase (effectively because its a 10 ilvl upgrade on my neck really), im assuming wowaudit can't possible know this information so now you have to discern if what i said was a lie or the truth so it kinda goes back to square 1. Stats are also incredibly easy to flip this patch so the only thing that really is up for debate are trinkets (since we know weapon ilvl is pretty much 95+% power budget is just in the int or wdps). I just dont get it, it just seems like a scam tool (granted if it can see your crest amount thats actually useful info but most people who aren't retarded hold off the on the REDEEM until reclear is over)

Also idk how this would even apply to healers or people who play different builds (im just clueless to how wowaudit works cause ive never used it personally)
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good luck on your vaults tomorrow, unless you play a dracthyr then bad luck lol
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>>537624996
I haven't done any vaults on any alts ;_;
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>>537624876
They are so prevalent they are adding them to the base game
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>>537621971
>pve trannies trying to gatekeep lfr
this is why you faggots get made fun of.
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>>537625483
LFR is harder than normal because of how stupid your teammates are.
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Back in vanilla we actually had to use cc and strategy, you think 18s are hard? You clearly never had to do wailing caverns
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>>537625443
Just don't use them
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>>537624927
You can put a note when you roll on the item and you will be asked to elaborate. A quick inspect should tell us if you are currently hitting softcaps.
This only happens with jewelry too because they give 0 mainstat so they mostly balance secondary distribution.
It is somewhat easy to manipulate sim outputs if you are targeting some specific non-trinket but we are yet to encounter a case like this because it's not worth the effort for most players while the rest are either too dumb to try or got filtered by the existence of wowaudit as a requirement.
We also sim at max ilvl upgrade.
As for healers there is a recent-ish sim tool called QElive which is not bad for relative % increases and upgrades.
You can upload results for different specs if you play more than 1. Hero talents do get the short end of the stick but again a note can alert us if you want to make an argument.
And again wowaudit is only 1 part of the equation when distributing loot + we stop using it after 2 or so months into the season
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>>537625620
Yeah that's what the guy unironically said.
What a retard...
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>>537625483
Raid trannies want their archaic game mode totally gatekept by tranny raid leads. They hate lfr because it allows people to see and practice the content without their oversight. Trannies need to be in control of everything because they were all sodomized by their fathers and gym teachers when they were children. Needing to abuse and control others is the prime hallmark of early childhood abuse. Even the concept of tranism is a rebellion against god. They don’t like the idea that some people were forced to be born male or female. Normal people just live with it, but trannies being the abuse victims they are feel an overwhelming hatred of anything or anyone they can’t control.
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>>537625620
Took me 6 weeks to clear WC back in the day
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>>537625895
This applies to M+ gatekeepers too you know?
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>>537625876
You have more computing power in your fridge now than all the computers in the world in 1945 they must’ve been retards back then. You know what e=mc^2 means you must be smarter than Isaac newton was.
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>>537622171
a major problem was the damage taken back then
sometimes you just had no defensives even if you interrupt and dodge/stun everything
now being forced to do mage tower that is custom tuned for your class? that would be something
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>>537624996
i did my first 13 today! i hope i get a good vault as a reward :3
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>>537626082
>You know what e=mc^2 means
Um about that...
E is energy
m is mass
no idea what c stands for or why is it squared or what to do with that information
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>>537614510
squeeb squap
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>>537626082
Blizzard could wipe everyone's memory today and release MC tomorrow and it would still be cleared the day it releases
The fact that you don't have to play with 15FPS and 200MS anymore is enough
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>>537626110
Since you Nancy boy faggots know nothing about real sports. Baseball etc have been moving away from just looking at averages to sabermetrics like WAR
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>>537626276
what does that have to do with wow?
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>>537626364
Are you retarded

WAR (Wins Above Replacement)
is one of the most influential and advanced statistics within the field of sabermetrics, according to Yakkertech. It's a "catch-all" metric that summarizes a player's offensive, defensive, and baserunning contributions into a single, easily digestible number that represents the number of wins they provide above what a replacement-level player would.

But wow not beesbool durrrrr
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>>537626082
That would be fair comparison if the game was still as difficult as back then only with us having better computers and all the addons that bing bong wahoo when you stand in fire.
But the reality is that the game has gotten significantly harder as a result between encounter designers and addon devs.
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NP was way harder than MFO, how are people struggling to clear Dim, I don't get it wtf. Did all the good players stop playing between S1 and S3?
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>>537626484
And the Indian h1b visas working at Boeing that haved crashed multiple airliners due to their incompetence I’m sure are smarter than the wright brothers were because a 747 is more complex than the first airplane
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>>537626446
>you are retarded if you dont know some specific sportsball term relevant in some field youve never heard of according to some random guy youve also never heard of
I see
since you are the only non retarded player maybe you can make a tool that tracks such metrics based on logs and calculates some meme number
until then well have to make do with looking at past progress and current logs
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>2025
>still no way to save preset raid warnings and rapid fire them so lfroids don't fail the hardest dimi mechanic (not clicking the portal until everyone is ready and a countdown went off)
nice game blizzkeks
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>>537626664
Fun fact: due to advanced statistical analysis they have pretty much conclusively proven that in basketball anything but a dunk/layup or three point shot is not worth taking
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>the absolute state of BDK's threat generation
no wonder you don't see many of them
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>>537626672
Dimmie is the ultimate lfr buckbreaker
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>>537626748
it took 100 years to figure out that shooting low % 2s is a bad idea?
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>>537626609
That doesn't even make any sense in this context, retard.
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>>537626762
Bdk are the undisputed delve kings they are all running +11 delves at 600 ilvl in 5 min
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>>537626672
Why bother, unless you have a small group of competent people that instantly are on the ball when the retards start the fight, it's just a chain of.
>people accidentally start and we wipe
>explain not to do that
>people leave and new people join
>new people go through the portals and start the fight
>wipe
On an endless loop.
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>>537626672
>2025
Macros have been in the game for over 20 year.
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There should be an autokick system in lfr and rdf
If someone mentions 'brb' , 'afk dog' or does low dps and 0 cc before first boss then it should be autokicked and flagged.
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Until the next time this stupid event is active
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>>537626831
Not as definitively as they have now. It’s been one of those basic guidelines but now it’s been proven you are statistically hurting your team if you are not dunking or shooting a three. I think this even includes the best mid range shooters ever.
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I don't understand anyone who plays this game seriously.
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>>537626762
worse than monk? I can't imagine being worse at aoe threat than cata blood
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>>537627079
noob
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>>537626762
Blood is a shit tank spec, it needs a rework
>shit mitigation so it will forever be shit in M+
>NEED to use a defensive on pull
>self healing is either busted or bad, no inbetween
>no single big damage abilities, just a lot of small damage
>slow
>surprising lack of utility
>boring damage abilities
>the nature of self-healing means it's only good if it's overtuned
Blood needs some actual baseline mitigation
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Outta the way, losers!
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>>537627237
increasing the armor and duration on bone shield would be a good start IMO
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>>537627315
Children aren't supposed to drive
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>>537627079
"If the best players in the league taking wide-open 8-to-15 foot shots is worse than a heavily contested, off-the-dribble 3, that is bad for the game," Morey said, "and I think it's the responsibility of the league office to take a look at this because teams are just going to optimize."

Wait until they break wow with some basic statistical analysis like they did with basketball
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>>537627381
This is Undermine, children are basically surgeons.
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>>537627341
Making it be a simple buff with duration that can be increased instead of stacks would be even better.
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>>537627384
Take for instance mythic guilds that raid 10 hours a week

I bet statistically if everyone in the guild grinded +8 delves for 10 hours a week
For a few months they could not even touch the raid and then just one shot every mythic boss once they are all 720ilvl
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>>537627237
>shit mitigation
at least it's not the small shield granted by death strike healing anymore
>NEED to use a defensive on pull
so does bear and every other tank due to the nature of M+
>no big damage
havent played it in a while does deathbringer and bloodrinker do anything to address this?
>slow
play a worgen unironically
>lack of utility
compared to what? dh? you still have amz and crez and gorefiend and grip
>boring damage abilities
warrior and bear and to an extent monk would like a word with you
Is it really bad or are you sad it's bottom tier when everything else is also good?
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>blizzard wants everyone to stop using addons
>still can't move the cast bar
>can't properly control spacing, padding and scaling on a single fucking UI element
>fucking BAG SORTING bugged randomly and sorts backwards
>UI still tied to a single cpu core
>literal pages of other issues and problems and retarded design
but hey you will be able to track passive talents on the cooldown helper i guess
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>>537627631
>+8 delves for 10 hours a week
You only need 8 delves. They don't give free heroic gear like keys and the vault caps at hero track so you only do them during week 1
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>>537627801
>still can't move the cast bar
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>>537627801
>still can't move the cast bar
You can. But yeah, they got bored and stopped working on the UI editor.
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>>537627315
D.R.I.V.E. through Gnomeregan when
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Today is Legion Remix new ptr build and patch notes, lets see how Josh and team fucks up some more
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>>537627801
it's all fucked... they make all this shit in house but can't even commit to put in half of the features the addons they're copying have, even basic shit

what's the point of them making platter if they don't let you make your own filters and all that and you have to rely on their own perception of "this is an important cast"
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>>537627894
Spam dungeons and delves for a few weeks
Ignore raiding
Start raiding halfway through the season
One shot everything from being overgeared af
gg
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>>537628295
You still need to do mechanics even if the dps checks are easier
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which gpu for 4k?
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>>537627751
Blood needs to use either Dancing Rune Weapon or Vampiric Blood on pull at most difficulty levels, warrior and VDH don't HAVE to until at later difficulties
Only Vampiric Strike is big damage and fun
Prot pala, VDH and warrior all have better utility, AMZ is only worthwhile in raids and highend keys where blood is irrelevant
>solving the issue of being slow with a mediocre racial
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>>537628160
It puts even more strain on the devs who are already struggling to put out content. Now they also have to worry about constantly updating all this ingame addons
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Havent played in a while and might be a dumb question but do the crackling shards get mailed to your postmaster? I know the drop rate is low
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>>537628563
If it drops in a delve or off a rare mob it PROBABLY gets mailed to you, but I'm honestly not 100% sure.
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>>537628140
People really think they're gonna somehow turn it around and fix it, but it's clearly already fucked from the core. The entire thing is separated into phases and they're not going back on it. They already have cute little names for each of the phases and have categorized everything by phase and what will unlock with what. You can't even buy half the stuff off the vendors until phases roll out.
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>>537628140
Even speeding up xp, bronze rate, and stat stacking the mode is still fucked because they hard timegated the release of each raid.
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>>537625826
Look to me it this just sounds like [Picking the highest ilvl increase on rclootcouncil] with extra steps, and alittle bit uncomfortably controlling (I will get slightly offended if loot council thinks im grifting). Also if loot council doesnt trust me to tell the truth I wouldn't trust them to make the correct decision (but then again im in guild where people will literally discuss with the loot council and decide against giving themselves loot).

Really what im trying to say is I don't really see an actual benefit to it for something that is quite annoying for your raiders to accurately portray what loot is actually good for them(especially if you do the NO SIMS BY 7 = NO LOOT (raid is at 7:30 and you just did 2 keys before raid and got an upgrade now loot council hates me for improving my character because they are freaks)). You are probably doing what you think is most effective but I couldn't fathom being in a guild like that.

>As for healers there is a recent-ish sim tool called QElive which is not bad for relative % increases and upgrades.
Funny you mention it, the guy who made the sim for QElive didn't know how branch worked in my guild in BFA after making the sim for it. Sims for trinkets are kinda meme shit and currently netherprism is bugged on sims and the proc isn't being calculated correctly vs ingame (its better than what it sims for basically and doesn't split).
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https://poal.me/ruy5gq
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>one button assistant tank
OH NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>537627631
>>537628295
Jesus, delvin melvin is braindead
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>>537628868
holy based, now every brainrot can tank
BASED BASED BASED
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>>537628561
>who are already struggling to put out content.
ok, calm down, let's not pretend the devs are being over worked now
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>>537605770
despite hating on all the hoodie/pajama mogs i bought this one, it looks like jin from tekken (kinda)
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>>537628295
why spam delves at that point? just wait 2-3 years and you can walk into raids solo and 1-shot everything. make a coherent point or stop wasting bandwidth
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>>537628704
I know Legion has way more content to take in than MoP but these niggers could have AT THE VERY LEAST had it launch with Emerald Nightmare, Trial of Valor, Kara, and Nighthold available day 1.
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>>537610991
based, only thing that matter
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>>537628943
How one button gameplay is based?
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>>537611815
womp womp
shoulda been there chud
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I can do it bros... a few more hours until maint starts
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One thing I don’t understand and the only explanation is dev autism. Why don’t they just balance certain abilities based on difficulty or content type? Rampage must hit exactly the same damage in lfr mythic mythic+ delves etc. They can’t just buff or nerf certain abilities like they do with PvP vs pve?
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>>537629189
jesus christ...
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>>537623583
>Paladins for all
Fuck off
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>>537607187
>me and my new elf neighbor after she thought she could live in the section-zugzug housing district
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>>537629763
>wanting more scaling
It's retarded because it would be a nightmare to balance and makes getting better gear feel weird when abilities hit differently depending on difficulty anyway
It's infinitely easier to balance the content rather than some fucked up mix of balancing abilities x4 AND the content.
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>>537614941
GoldDrac will be fine >>537610658

I don't get calling 'em femthyr, there's literally at least 3 or 4 others here

I thought that was the general term femDracs but maybe I missed the memo
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>>537629670
the SIGMA +10 enjoyer and the CHAD +18 pooooosher vs the BETA +13 struggler
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>>537629670
I'm going to push next week. Why? Because I feel like it.
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>>537630110
I just get 3000 because I can and then coast on 10s the rest of the season
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>>537629189
>dripfeeding Legion Remix content bc they have nothing else besides maybe the same low-drop rate loot with the recycled Holiday events that only last 2 weeks

Why are Blizzard like this?
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>>537608217
CHAMPYUN
ye dinnae leave your delve vault unfinished did ye?
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>>537628140
I expect fuckall changes except infinite power will probably be more than 100 mainstat and stamina.
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>>537630238
if they released everything at once people would complain about having nothing to do after a few weeks, blizz can't win with you cryin' bitch niggas
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>>537628789
Thats basically what it is except not ilvl but overall strength upgrade.
We have no way of knowing beforehand why would someone think he should get an item that is not an upgrade so we give him a chance to explain for transparency's sake. Do you think automatically barring anyone from loot because le sim says so is a better alternative? Or just need before greed rules so any nigger can roll need on shit he doesn't need?
We have had liars before and I see no reason why anyone should be blindly trusted. If someone thinks he has a reason to need on the gear he is welcome to make a point and loot has been given to people who convinced us during a "tiebreaker".
Again % increases are just one of the tools we use to determine if someone gets gear or not and it is not the main one. It is however what solved some of our loot related problems
You can upload sims at any moment before boss loot is distributed and it will be taken into account. What you wrote is a literal strawman but you had no way of knowing that. Maybe that is how it would have worked in guilds youve been in.
When you start losing dedicated and good players after new recruits (not trials) take loot they don't need for raids or loot that's an upgrade but not bis when some people need it as their bis you start looking for solutions before the guild is replaced or dies. For us wowaudit with combinations of other more traditional methods ended up being the solution.
As for QElive its what we have and what we do. The alternative is making healers sim for dps or letting them roll on everything/nothing which is miles worse.

>but then again im in guild where people will literally discuss with the loot council and decide against giving themselves loot
How is giving loot council members lower loot priority a bad thing? I thought you'd be happy to find out not every council is made of faggot embezzlers.
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>>537630250
Is the armor only meant to be inspired by him? Or had he supposedly worn it? He's a way muter coloration than that, though...
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the icon menu for macros and bank tabs needed an update a decade ago
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>>537630238
they want everyone to be forced to suffer emerald nightmare without the good legendries
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>>537630367
At least people would have fun for those few weeks.
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Metzen’s original pitch for the expansions after Dragonflight before Blizzard made him split it into 3 and shoot lower content-wise

Expansion 1 (11.0-11.3)
>Void invasion of Azeroth led by Xal’atath
>Alliance allied races throughout the expansion: Earthen, Arathi, Ethereal, High Elf
>Horde allied races throughout the expansion: Haranir, Ascended, Undermine Goblin, Amani Troll
>Zones throughout the expansion: Tel Abim (instead of the Isle of Dorn), Ringing Depths, Undermine, K’aresh, Voidstorm, Twilight Realm, Ahn’kahet, Rootlands
>Delves

Expansion 2 (12.0-12.3)
>Titans attack Azeroth after the heart is corrupted by Xal’atath
>Constellar race
>Astrologian class (2 specs)
>Artificer class (2 specs)
>Zones throughout the expansion: Storm Peaks, Lordaeron, Grizzly Hills, Quel’thalas, Howling Fjord, Zul’Aman, Zul’Drak, Arathor, Avaloren
>Player housing
>Guild halls
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>>537627801
>cant hide action bar 1
>cant hide castbar
>cant hide micro bar
>cant hide bag bar
>cant hide several other things relating to the UI
>boss frames don't easily show debuffs for multidotting
>can't show role on the raidgroup panel
>Still unable to show latency on cast bar
>doesnt show ticks on cast bar
>cant keybind mousebuttons for mouseover
>cant remove portraits from uniframes
>Max 3 debuffs and buffs on raid frame still
>CANT CLICK LINKS IN CHAT
>Cant filter WTS listings in group finder based on a key word
>Cant apply to more than 5 groups at once
>Talent pages can wig the fuck out requiring relogs to fix
>Choice nodes with 2 active talents dont share a keybind
>UI still does not track maelstrom for stormbringer
Is there anything else?
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2nd time I've seen a tank die to the pack behind the miniboss in the church in dawnbreaker. I'm trying to figure out why and I guess there are 2 mobs in that pack that do a healing reduction. It's strange because I remember all of the trash in dawnbreaker being super easy in s1. Has anything else changed?
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>>537630367
They're just padding the sub numbers and wasting people's time with the carrot on a string routine

>>537630464
Exactly
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>>537630418
i think its named "speakers" something something so maybe after the role rather than magni
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>>537611586
>>537611334
It could be worse
>Do key perfectly
>Last boss someone makes a small misstep and it starts all over again
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>>537630502
are you talking about the packs on the sides of the stairs right before the last boss?
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>>537630679
I'll do you one better
>last boss bugs out and you have to pull again without bloodlust
Sozami portals just stopped working once and we got fucked
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>>537611334
I bricked a dawnbreaker by standing too close to the big purple ball. I was far clear of it visually but I guess I was too close. Vote to abandon succeeded. The keyholder complained but was doing less dps than me (tank).
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Do most dps in dungeons save their cd for last boss or do they use them on cd from the first pull in dungeon?
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>>537630823
They save them for the next dungeon! heehee
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>>537630031
People complain about that constantly in this thread. That the game is balanced for the top .5% I don’t see why they can’t just do things like give healing a 15% buff or whatever in low level keys.

Disc priest is a great example of a healer that works extremely well at high levels of play but often horribly in low level keys. Disc can be extremely challenging if your team takes massive avoidable damage like what happens all the time in pugs. It’s literally optimized for high levels of play where players don’t need to have their mistakes corrected constantly.
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>>537630823
from my experience these apes only use cds on bosses and never on trash
you are better off sending them as soon as you can assuming pack isn't nearly dead in pugs when you dont know the tanks route
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>>537601349
DK and Paladin will always be the most popular classes. Paladin should have been a hero class.
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>>537630723
No, I think your thinking of priory. I'm talking about dawnbreaker. After you kill the first boss and fly doing to the church there is a big pack of 5 mobs in the back of the church behind the miniboss, the nerubian that does the terrifying slam. I've seen 2 tanks die and brick 13s because of that pack and I was wondering if anyone knew why that would've happened with that pack.
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>>537630823
Imagine having a dps cooldown
>t. ret
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>>537631014
I wish there was a coldownless specialization
For a brief moment >>>>>survival had one but those days are gone
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>>537631009
oh yeah i completely missed that you said dawnbreaker
there are heavy meleers in there with a 0.5 second bleed and other big his and spell casts and that big shadow cleave
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>>537630940
When I started doing m+ I would save my offensive cd for bosses. Once I started using them in trash my dps shot up like 20% if someone is doing terrible dps in your group it’s probably because they aren’t using their offensive cd as much as they should
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>>537630823
You should keep them rolling.
Ofc that is assuming tank pulls more than one pack - ideally you want the first pull to be the biggest possible so you blast lust as well.
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>>537631115
last season totemic only had doomwinds and big totem which were 1min and 24 seconds with no ascendence
i think there is a build for BM hunter with no actual cooldowns
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>>537630367
>NOOO BLIZZARD ALWAYS KNOWS BETTER THAN THE PEOPLE WHO CONSUME YOUR SLOP
Bro if I want to grind mobs for 16 hours in one sitting I should be able to do so
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>>537630367
There is already nothing to do. I did everything timegated this week
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>>537628868
Is this Dvalin?
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>>537631275
Sir! Think about poor dad gamers! How can they compete with you if we don’t limit your playtime?!
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Legion classic when?
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>>537631482
like 3 years from now
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>>537631482
Why would anyone want to replay that trash expansion?
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>>537630367
They released everything in MoP Remix day 1 and everyone loved it. Stop licking Blizzards balls for 5 seconds and you'll realize how fucking stupid they are.
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>>537612148
hahahahahahahahahaahahahah
lol
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>>537631545
bikini armor only race, bras and lingerie class weapons
new zones, goldshire orgy, orgrimmar orc dungeon, uhhh
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>>537631412
This blame shifting is embarrassing.
Gamerdads don't give a shit if you farm all the stupid mounts and whatnot day one.
This is all on blizzard and blizzard only.
It's not about people complaining they have nothing to do, because they do complain - on the account of the timegating, where there's actually nothing to do.
They just don't want people to blast through the content in one month and then unsub for the next 3.
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im gay
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>>537631875
>They just don't want people to blast through the content in one month and then unsub for the next 3.
And timegating might make it so some people don't bother with Legion remix at all
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What happened to m**e?
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so, what happened to that chainmail bikini? was it just crowd control and pretend? it's been like 2 years
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KEK RETOILETS
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>>537632008
He went off to play abiotic factor or something.
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im trans
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>>537632050
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>>537630409
>Thats basically what it is except not ilvl but overall strength upgrade.
Yeah so basically its not really worth the additional effort then.
>We have no way of knowing beforehand why would someone think he should get an item that is not an upgrade so we give him a chance to explain for transparency's sake. Do you think automatically barring anyone from loot because le sim says so is a better alternative? Or just need before greed rules so any nigger can roll need on shit he doesn't need?
I never said any of this btw
>You can upload sims at any moment before boss loot is distributed and it will be taken into account. What you wrote is a literal strawman but you had no way of knowing that. Maybe that is how it would have worked in guilds youve been in.
Its not a strawman its an example scenario you dumb fuck, people do what I actually said and i never said you did that nor portrayed it like that.
>How is giving loot council members lower loot priority a bad thing? I thought you'd be happy to find out not every council is made of faggot embezzlers.
I never said that, i said the person who the loot council think the loot might have been good for argued against himself (which is what every guild with non greedy nigger raiders just do normally). Most loot councils are retarded, you will never distribute correctly the loot trying to make the experience more annoying/painful .
>. The alternative is making healers sim for dps or letting them roll on everything/nothing which is miles worse.
Lmao, HSW says mastery is my best stat this pull but 2 pulls later it says haste surely this means something (it doesn't). If your giving loot to a healer often times its because A) stamina (important) B) nobody else needs it C) You just want to be heckin fair. I would literally leave any guild on the spot that asks me to sim my rdruid statweights (oh wow this pull where my nigger warrior decide to soak orbs mastery is really good wow shock horror).
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>>537631975
Depends how insufferably hard they make it for people to get everything if they only play for last month of it.
I didn't play panda remix much, only like last two weeks where I leveled 3 characters and bought everything I wanted, so I don't know how it was and whether people jumped straight into SoO or whether they did raids in order.
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literally who[m]
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I marked something on MDT and it explicitly said it won't mark the actual mob in the dungeon. Is there an addon that can automate that based on a route in MDT?
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>>537630409
>As for QElive its what we have and what we do. The alternative is making healers sim for dps or letting them roll on everything/nothing which is miles worse.
>simming healing
Actually kill yourself holy shit. Thank god your not my loot council
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>>537630906
>People complain about that constantly in this thread
Because most people here are terrible at the game and simply want to get carried through everything.
If they give a 15% buff in "low keys" then all that does it mash the players of different skill levels together and boost shit players that don't deserve it, it also just increases the threshold of what a "low key" is and further kills low keys
>disc
That means nothing, high keys punish mistakes harder and harder so players need to perform better and better, to near perfection, so those groups want that most damage dealing healer because taking damage is already an almost guaranteed fatal mistake that no healing is going to prevent.
And certain specs and builds work better in higher difficulties because things take longer to die or do more damage to players.
Rogue plays like shit and is generally not very fun (it's barely more popular than evoker) but it's permanently M+ meta in high keys because of shroud, the use of which will make or break a key.
Don't base your opinions on what the cutting edge of players are doing, disc is perfectly fine to play at low M+ levels
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>>537632428
the 3 players left will probably enjoy it
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>>537631543
10 times better than the current one THOUGH
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>>537632428
FFXIV WON
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>>537632381
So you make your healers sim dps?
>your
Hello Rajeesh
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>>537632545
It introduced basically everything that is wrong with current wow except mentally ill developers
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>>537628561
maybe the dev team shouldn't be a hodgepodge of inferior lifeforms when they could be filling it with Aryan programmers?
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notTimeless Isle doko?
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>>537630906
>Disc priest is a great example of a healer that works extremely well at high levels of play but often horribly in low level keys. Disc can be extremely challenging if your team takes massive avoidable damage like what happens all the time in pugs. It’s literally optimized for high levels of play where players don’t need to have their mistakes corrected constantly.
Oracle disc is actually very good in low keys, I never really had issues with it nearly as much as some of the other healers. You have more radiances than you have common sense and you don't often (really ever) get throughput checked in low keys so you can just spam shit like a retard. The literal biggest issue i had play disc was actually just being a priest (squishier than other healers so i can die to being bolted more often).
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God I want to stick it in a femthyr and feel how hot she is inside.
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>>537632563
Have you considered talking to your healers you autist?
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AYO WOW Gz
FUCK AZEROTH MANDEM LETS GO RAID DEEZ STREETS SENPAI
ON SOME DEVIAS BROTHERHOOD TYPE SHIT
GANG GANG
https://youtu.be/iOt6rqEMD-Y
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>>537632791
Yeah, right. And mess up their ESG score. HA!
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>>537632563
>it must be A or B there is no C
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>>537633181
>when I walk through the block I feel like a man
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I wish they would up rez of that old armors.

+ pandaren racial armor when ffs
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>>537632015
It was deemed sexist by some sag-tittied fat bitch that works at blizzard but has no real, definable job position.
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>>537633308
>blind
>racist pants
oh no
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>>537633308
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>>537633279
it's "da man", aka the man
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>>537633471
anon projecting much?
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>>537632991
Because they are sure to know how much of an upgrade an item would be for them compared to the gains we can expect from damage dealers if they got said item?
It gives us SOME number to work with and because there are no queues like for raidbots it's instant.

>>537633267
So what alternative do you propose? I'm open to suggestions, not that the decisions is mine. Be sure to justify the double standard when the damage dealers and tanks ask how come healers don't have to sim when the tools for it exist and give some idea of what to expect when looking at potential upgrades
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>>537633532
projecting?
nay, expanding.
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freezerburn on my wenis from ice cold worgen frost death knight cookie
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this game realy lacks some female gnome art. just full of damn elves and goats
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is ara'kara the worst key of the season?
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>>537633728
It's hoa.
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Blizzard's damage meter is going to be way more accurate than Details
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>>537633728
Only Gambit and Eco dome are tolerable
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>>537633838
true. it will show me as being on top as I always know I'm supposed to be instead of these tranny classes lying about doing more DPS than me playing ret
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>>537633951
That too but it doesn't have to read your combat log to get the damage data
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>>537633951
what's the matter, a ret stole your dps?
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not... going to make it...
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>>537632950
Can you let me clean her up once you're done? :3
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They FINALLY fixed them.
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>>537633951
Ret and bm have dominated low level keys every season since m+ was introduced. A fire/arcane mage meme build usually is the meta on competitive keys but that’s only when the group mass pulls and there is time for cooldowns to reset. Pugs usually chain pull so ret/bm can hit their offensive cd every other pack or so.
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>>537634118
its week 3 of m+. calm the fuck down retard. everyone and their dead grandma will have 3k this season with how much gear scales. specialy when turbo boost comes in october
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>>537634118
you can do it anon, I'm rooting for you
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>>537634332
yeah but I want to have it this week as a "see I did it!" thing
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>>537634453
>implying anything looks at months
brother at best they will check if it was 25 or 26 but no one will ever check
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>>537634538
mate I'm just doing it as a thing for myself, I don't care what others think. it's a goal I have.
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>>537632008
He gave up to play Marvel Rivals
Before that, it was Fortnite

Ig the GloboHomo stream didn't go so well
Maybe he didn't get enough Twitch views

Not even his latest foid plaything >>537614941
>>537610658
can keep him here
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What your father say if he knew you played a half naked female space goat named caulkgobbler for 8 hours a day instead of getting a job and raising a family
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>>537613296
>>537613474
autism
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>>537634880
Life is about having fun not wageslaving for Shekelstein. Wow is fun. Raising a family is not. He would know.
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>>537633543
>Because they are sure to know how much of an upgrade an item would be for them compared to the gains we can expect from damage dealers if they got said item?
You want a number attached to loot because you can't do your job as loot council? You gear healers because you need more healing, healing is also 0 sum so unless you are dropping healers because your healers are juiced you probably are overhealing all content to begin with, or your healers suck. However under this paradigm you wouldnt give your healers ANY loot whatsoever until every person is gear (which is unfair). Loot is a plan not a spreadsheet, if there was a 3healer angle for a boss that looked good you as loot council should have already known and planned for it. A like-for-like comparison is complete retardation, its not a double standard its literally just how the game works.
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today i fake dced before last boss in m+ as tank coz we had 1 dps who kept running infront and spam pulling mobs coz he wanted to 3chest a +10 and made us wipe 2 times coz of 50 mobs on us. then he thought its smart thing to call me slow and shit tank pack before last boss. rip his key it is
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>>537635006
Absolutely based.
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>>537635031
TankGODS not taking shit from anybody
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Has anyone tried to see if Zen Flight works for Phase 2 of Dimensius?

I assume it wouldn't work and they'd drop like a rock into the cosmic abyss... Also, it'd probably be way too slow to "fly" with kek
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>>537635031
>fake dc
Tank sissy moment, alpha male just leaves the group so you can assert dominance
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>>537634118
Just do eco/dawn/flood/gambit 14.
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>>537634314
Was this the last april fools joke that wasn't just "le ebil patch nodes"?
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>>537634880
He wouldn't say jack.
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>>537635006
If my father found out I played half naked females in wow for thousands of hours a year he would’ve beat the shit out of me and he barely ever even raised his voice.
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>>537635192
slim pickings this morning, going for anything
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>>537635006
>Raising a family is not. He would know.

>>537635223
>He wouldn't say jack.

>>537635284
>he would’ve beat the shit out of me

This... explains a lot.

wowgers got deadbeats and domestic abuse baka
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>>537635012
So basically "give healers gear only after everyone else is gear but not really because it's unfair so they should get gear whenever" is your alternative solution? I don't think I can sell it to the others I'm afraid.
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>>537635421
Oh mine wasn't a deadbeat at all. He tried his best. It didn't help in the end. What would u do?
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>>537635421
>This... explains a lot.

wowgers got deadbeats and domestic abuse baka

I only found out after he was dead but apparently he made a living out of firing girl bosses as a business consultant. If only he had known the horror the modern world has become over the past 15 years. Thats probably why his brain exploded with extreme dementia before 65.
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>>537635175
Leaving group is a +1 stack to deserter even that it is irrelevant for tanks, but it is a free-leave ticket for everyone else.
Fake dc - is a special humiliation ritual for the key owner, because he is forced to single handedly abandon and deplete it.
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Was WoD the last expansion where there were like horde/alliance colonies on the new landmass/planet?
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>>537630759
I fucking kneel, The rare times this has happened I wanted to blow my brains out even if I timed it.
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>>537635935
>I wanted to blow my brains out even if I timed it.
gosh it sounds like such a fun game mode that even when winning youre still miserable.
This exact feel is the reason I finally just abandoned War Thunder
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>>537635935
It shouldn't be happening at all. Tazavesh has been in the game since Shadowlands. Fucking useless coders
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>>537635841
Legion had towers.
BfA had opposition camps on both continents, Horde had straight up Fortresses built in Kultiras

There were several Dragonscale Expedition camps in Dflight which were heavily racially themed Either Dwarven of Blood Elf.
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>>537636081
I like the mode, I just don't like getting fucked by bugs.
More so when blizzard has functionally never ever fixed those problems and just went "oh jeez that sucks :3" I remember getting some bosses randomly bugged in wrath and the GM just going "Oh jeez, that sucks lil bud" a week later.

>>537636109
Shitterlands dungeons are buggy messes. I have a friend who randomy can't see So'azami's portals.
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>>537635421
>This... explains a lot.
danuser post
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FYI right now Mining bismuth/nullstones is making me 50k gold an hour(assuming high skill good tools and camo potion)
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>>537636224
Well known exploiters said blizzard just gave up on fixing non widespread gamebreaking or very beneficial bugs back in Sneedolands. Unless it starts happening every key or players find a way to benefit immensely from it you can forget about fixes
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>>537636313
Good to hear a gold/hour report.
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Can someone tell me wtf is up with blasphemite it was 80g a month ago now it’s 1500g

Holy fucking shit… this is the first expac I’ve paid attention to ah prices is this normal?
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>>537636465
It's the cartels trying to manipulate the market one last time before the expansion ends.
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>>537636401
They do fix them eventually, but they rarely, if ever, fixed negative bugs that didn't impede you playing.
Boss didn't drop loot? Get fucked.
Your character is actually stuck? This they'll fix.
This isn't a "new bad old good" type shit, they've always been lazy fuckers.
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should I main prot war or pal
neither of the dpscuck specs from warrior appeal to me
neither is ret but why not for the memes? I used to main holy back in cata I know its shit rn but could be enough for dumb 10s
are pallies that squishy? I know warriors are cracked for both raid and m+ but eh, Im locking myself on one spec and only one, I could play holy for raids and hc pugs too if I was desperarate
I dont wanna play dorf, is belf comfi? 1% crit is ok i guess
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>>537636313
>>537636437
ALSO FYI actually just learned this today
The Arathi Dailies now give BoE 642 Greens, still the same skins and weapons and trinkets and shit and they SELL as new alt gear. I sold a Green trinket I got from a daily bag for 16k, Just sold a green ring same story for 8.5k Like they dont go instantly but they do go and its a solid easily farmable source of doch if youre trying to buy the expansion with tokens or pay your sub.
Hit those dailys on an alt is three for sure items totalling between like 10 and 50k depending what you get x as many alts as you feel like doing.

This information valid for NA Moon Guard, cant speak for other servers.
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>>537636313
its quite good, where do you do it
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>>537636859
>Arathi Dailies
The Flame's Radiance dailies?
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>>537636802
There is 6-8 months more of this season and everyone and their mother are already doing 10 and will be oneshotting 15s once turbo boost drops. So you have more than enough time to literally play both.
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>>537637104
yes the reward bags give a green, the greens actually sell quite well, at least a couple thousand and possibly tens of thousands.

I, Today, sold two of these greens for a total of 24 thousand gold, rewards from 2 bug killing dailies.

>>537637036
Ringing Deeps take the elevator to dorn when I feel the need to chagne scene I Ususally apply a razor stone and eat two pots, mine for an hour then log and take a break, mine for another hour with two more pots, and then with the razorstone expired go do something else for a while(right now) did this A total of a little less than three hours tonight, made ~170k gold.

Spend 2.9 mill the other day buying expansion for two accounts epic on one reg on the other, and a few more months of sub so I feel the need to replenish my pile.
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When would be the best time to doomp my reagent bank on the auction house?
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>>537637961
two weeks ago or right now, the prices will be floor in a couple weeks and will not recover
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>>537637961
Now, when .2.5 is announced, when .2.5 is released +3 days. Unless you mean older reagents then when crafting furniture is released
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Good morning to my fellow melvins.
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>>537637961
materials demand is driven primarily by raid/M+ crafted gear and consumable demand, prices peak with raid peak and raid peak is probably last week till the end of sept at best after that prices will crater and with the expansion effectively over those mater will become overfarmed underdemanded and worthless.
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>>537636802
Prot Pally is squishier but has an easier time with casters. It also has better utility. If you can count on your DPS to kick, then Prot Warrior. If you have to do it yourself, then Prot Pally. Riposte only counts Crit from gear, so 1% Crit from Belf won't be as useful.
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>>537638143
those are some optimistic scoops.
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>>537638000
>>537638052
>>537638172
Alright thanks bros
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>>537636662
Wageslaving for barely $15 minimum wage an hour for part-time for over a decade (it started at like, under $8 an hour a decade ago)

Now with an added ball and chain clamped to my ankle (some guy shadowing me as a "backup" for my area), that will probably get elevated to fulltime status bc this place is fucked up like that

My 12th year anni is coming up... pepehands

I'm trying to hang in there until the supposed union deal money is given out (haha), but there is zero fulltime progression in this fucking dept unless you're a chosen one and ascended bc of some backroom dealings and favoritism

Anyway... love wowg anons!!
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>>537638632
>>537638632
new
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>>537638658
>page 6
>new thread made
NIGGER
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>>537638857
its 7 posts past the dead zone chud
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>>537638951
whatever you say newfaggot
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>>537613128
Just pick up the weekly quests in dornogal, do the k’aresh questline to get the raid quest and then do the phase diving quest in the floating island in the middle of the zone, do the karesh weekly activity and the world quests and then start doing delves (which particular delve it is doesn’t matter, only its tier and whether or not it’s bountiful), or m+, or lfr -> raiding, or pvp

It’s not complicated
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>>537613260
Same!!!!!!!!!
Very consistently I sleep/wake up 50 minutes later every day.
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>>537618163
When were the dark shore dailies again?
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>>537629438
I sure wont be there for remix lol
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>>537636465
i think they broke thaumaturgy with the 11.2 gathering and vendor. instead of it being an easy win on some things to just use the cooldowns you have to make a lot more money from the blasphemite. hard to really tell if that's what they intended from the start but that's how it is now with 11.2 creating a pseudo transmute tightening up price differences.

that's besides the normal "it's a patch so flip everything" exploitation. i'd guess it'd ease some after this spark drops the leather prices off again.



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