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Remember that you can dislike stuff without making it part of your personality. Report and ignore shitposters that only spam and argue in bad faith.
/ffg/ spam filter: https://pastebin.com/SJ1sb9r0

>General Info on Final Fantasy
https://finalfantasy.fandom.com

>What version should I play?
http://pastebin.com/nDC7j5bn

>Final Fantasy Pixel Remaster Trailer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XdLsIQEGj-E

>Final Fantasy Tactics: The Ivalice Chronicles
https://youtu.be/JRIElEOQa4c?si=d0hEChixTBdlYy_w

>Final Fantasy XVI Info
https://na.finalfantasyxvi.com
>Launch Trailer "Salvation"
https://youtu.be/_CrV3hkJuvs
>DLC
https://youtu.be/RecsFD6SWfc
https://youtu.be/aveDvd66clk
>PC Trailer
https://youtu.be/LBqpFlA_4Is

>Final Fantasy VII Rebirth
https://youtu.be/WgdkN2tCAFw
>Final Trailer
https://youtu.be/Q56cRDseTG

>Final Fantasy VII Ever Crisis
https://youtu.be/afTX-30KkaE
>Dissidia Final Fantasy Opera Omnia
https://www.youtube.com/@DFFOperaOmnia
>Final Fantasy Brave Exvius: War of the Visions
https://pastebin.com/1yvynbW8
>Final Fantasy Brave Exvius
https://pastebin.com/mwANP4fD

>Final Fantasy XI
http://www.playonline.com/ff11us/index.shtml

Previous thread: >>537340846
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Some people really need to figure out that you can dislike stuff without making it part of your personality. You don't have to go out of your way to remind everyone every time it comes up, and argue with anyone who does like it.
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>>537657684
FFXVI is the best one.
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>>537657802
Based first post as always!
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>>537657812
*worst
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I flopped and killed the series. I'm sorry...
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>>537657812
We know. We've always known that it was 10/10 all along.
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>>537658231
*0/10
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>>537658224
We forgive you, FF2
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V Scholars
VI Studs
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>>537657684
>new stuff got added to the filter list
HOLY BASED
THANKS
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>>537660189
Full list?
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>>537660189
Nice
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>>537660189
What's the difference between Dreamboum and Frenchie?
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>>537661572
They're off-topic
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>>537660189
How does that work?
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>>537658068
>>537658224
>>537659924
Sadly true
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>>537663054
>>537661572
>retard can't read
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>>537662246
Hey, wait a minute, that's not a difference!
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Has this disgusting, creepy, whiny old freak killed himself yet?
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Does "developer demoralization" sound like an excuse to churn out half-baked, user-agreement-filled, always-online, virtue-signaling, day-one-patch, $80 slop?
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>>537665556
By that logic, people shouldn't have criticized the original FFXIV because that would hurt the developers' feelings. How curious.
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I am not having very much fun with ff8.. I do not want to DRAW..
But Rinoa is very cute......
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>XIV is copying WoW yet again
OH NO NO NO NO NO NO
AAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>537665556
Define each of those things to prove you aren't just parroting buzz words.
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>>537671771
SE has been slowly (very slowly) adding features from popular plugins to the base game for several years now. If this is even true, they wouldn't be copying WoW, they would be implementing plugin functionality into the base game, just as they've done previously for things like buff timers and chat bubbles.
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Aerisu!
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>>537671771
There's nothing wrong with that. In fact, it's a positive thing.
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>>537615071
>>537615225
>>537625103
leotards rule, even if its by AI Slop
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Why does Square Enix act as if FFVIII doesn't exist?
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>>537657684
I swear OP posting Rydia triggered me into dreaming The After Years got announced for Switch/ Switch 2 and PS5. the day night cycle got rehauled.
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I wanna fuck loli Rydia so hard now this is your fault based OP baker
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>>537689452
Kain...
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>>537689452
Edgar...
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>>537671771
>bla bla FFXIV MIGHT follow wow
>"AHIEAHEIAIZORI FFXIV IS FOLLOWING WOW"
Jesus take your meds already.
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>>537683878
Nah, AI sucks.
And that Mary Sue sucks even harder, and two negatives don't make a positive, meaning that your spam was shit from the start.
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>>537696382
Pattern recognition is a completely normal and human thing
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>>537697887
Not beating the schizo allegations.
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>>537696382
I already explained it to him but he chooses not to listen. BurningDownTheHouse is a plugin that lets you do anything with furniture, even place it out of bounds (within the outer bounds of the out of bounds). This functionality is already "in the game", just as an open secret "illegal" plugin that literally everyone uses. If anything, WoW is copying XIV, not only in the housing department but also in the ability to (allegedly, nothing has been proven yet, WoW housing doesn't even exist yet and will likely be dogshit) place things "anywhere", which again, we don't actually know. WoW housing does not exist and so XIV cannot possibly be copying it, and if XIV eventually incorporates BDTH features into the base game, it will just be another instance of them incorporating a popular plugin into the base game.
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>>537698827
>BurningDownTheHouse is a plugin that lets you do anything with furniture, even place it out of bounds
Oh so that's how that guy managed to have a Mario Sunshine secret level outside of bounds in his house...
But yeah, that massive loser just refuses to listen to anything that doesn't support its sad narrative that Yoshida isn't a genius who single-handedly saved FFXIV and thus SE after the massive disaster that XIII and all the failed mobile games were.
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>>537697887
The Cultist got extremely angry over this, it seems.
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>>537699038
>Oh so that's how that guy managed to have a Mario Sunshine secret level outside of bounds in his house...
Yeah, the stuff you can do with BDTH is pretty crazy. Lots of people have jump puzzles in the out-of-bounds zones outside (but inside) their houses. It goes up (and down) very high, and you can place furniture anywhere within the "bounds" of the out-of-bounds zone with BurningDownTheHouse.

This is, of course, in addition to more normally being able to place furniture any way that you would like to place it. This ability already exists within XIV, it's just that it's a plugin. And once again, WoW housing literally does not exist yet, and so we have no idea what it will and wont be able to do, and so XIV cannot possibly be copying it, when WoW doesn't even have housing to begin with. They'd be incorporating features of the BDTH plugin into the game, as they have done with other plugins already.
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>>537699326
I'm getting it, then. I always wanted to try making a theater in my basement.
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>>537699609
I think it would work better if you had a (floating) theater on top of (i.e. "outside of") the first floor of your house. I think there is enough space for it below as well, but personally I think on top of your "house box" in the out of bounds zone would work better for a theater.
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>>537700062
Oh I don't like this. I'm getting Max Payne flashbacks.
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>>537699609
>>537700062
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>>537671771
>>537697887
Why does it keep happening?
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>>537700269
Looks bloody cool. A bit Egyptian, reminds me of that Thousand Son map for UT2004 I saw once.
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>>537701443
Heck are these? They look like backgrounds I use for my VN fangame.
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>>537701623
This is a guy's housing decoration commission work in XIV.
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And this is WoW's housing (which doesn't even actually exist yet)

lol
lmao
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It seems like someone got extremely insecure about XIV's housing.
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>>537699326
>WoW housing literally does not exist yet, and so we have no idea what it will and wont be able to do
True to the extent that it has yet to be officially released on to live servers, but plenty of people have gotten a chance to try it out and test it.
https://youtu.be/wxJCsbBpjrU?si=JhUcJh7PWxXKkYHM
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>>537702754
I am aware that people have been incentivized to shill a very controlled "housing" environment that is under zero load or stress. I am also aware that everything Blizzard releases is broken and under delivered. It will be a miracle if it works at all, imo, and it could never do anything like this.
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>>537701836
Fuck me these are good.

>>537702057
This reminds me of Ale and Tale Tavern.

>>537702442
This one, I love this. Gimme link plz

>>537702754
Sounds like every early access cringe.
>i tried thing and IT ROCKS I NEED MORE UPPERCASE
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>>537703061
>This one, I love this. Gimme link plz
https://thonhart.com/product/bs07/
Here is a gallery. 10 million gil isn't that bad?
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>>537703485
Damn, shame it's so expensive, I love that kind of elvish forest aesthetic.

>>537703180
Then again, the Captain's Cabin here is also very nice.
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>>537702754
Ignoring WoW's literal ToonTown graphics which I dislike, this doesn't look that bad. Still, I hesitate to believe that players will be able to do this themselves knowing how Blizzard leaves everything in their game broken from beta all the way until the next expansion releases.

XIV allows players to do more than you'd ever thought would be possible, including modern apartments, lofts, grottos, forests, and out-of-bounds secret theaters and jump puzzles that you have to lay down on a bed ("secret" clip entrance) to even get to. Whereas with WoW, I will genuinely be surprised if it's even barebones functional.
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>>537703779
My beef with XIV housing is that, except for servants, it's useless. You can sit down on the furniture and eat the food, but that's all.
You can't use the bath to get bonuses, or even sleep in the bed.
Also 10 millions gils is a lot.
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>>537704043
The "meta" for housing is to own an FC (in many cases a solo FC, with only you in it) and this allows you to have access to submarines, which when leveled up will start bringing back ~1 million gil worth of vendor trash.

You are right though. Unless you have friends that genuinely want to hang out at your house, or unless you're hosting a jump puzzle or haunted house or a nightclub venue, it's kind of pointless to own one, unless you just love decorating.
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>>537703779
Barebones functional describes XIV's housing to a tee. The system has barely been updated since launch, to the point where you almost need a mod to be able to do most of the cool shit you see. I really hope WoW's housing knocks it out of the park because maybe that would incentivize the XIV devs to actually go back and do more with their housing aside from just adding new shit every patch while leaving the core systems to rot.
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>>537704424
Sadly, we all live in a yellow submarine.
Yellow submarine, yellow submarine!
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>>537704434
>to the point where you almost need a mod to be able to do most of the cool shit you see
Yes, if you had been paying attention that is what I was saying. Everyone uses BurningDownTheHouse. This post >>537671771 is complete nonsense. First off, WoW doesn't even actually have a housing system yet. Second, everyone uses BDTH. If anything, if anything, WoW is copying XIV with the housing system, and WoW is also copying XIV's illegal and unofficial BDTH plugin, but we don't even know that because it doesn't exist yet.

>I really hope WoW's housing knocks it out of the park
I highly doubt it. Everything in WoW is just always broken. This is a big feature that they've never done anything like before. They are going to fuck it up. I will be not only surprised but amazed if it even just works at all on release. Actual decorations aside, the "housing" system in WoW just sounds like it's Island Sanctuary (but with your friend or your guild), and we all know how well Island Sanctuary blew over.
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>>537704925
I mean, I like Island Sanctuary. I did a lot of poses in there.
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>>537704925
I don't think WoW's housing is gonna be a spreadsheet simulator like Island Sanctuary turned out to be,
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>>537705130
You complete goals along (along with whoever is on your island) to unlock progress. It sounds identical to Island Sanctuary. Maybe it will be something else, but it sounds literally like cooperative Island Sanctuary.
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>>537705031
Island Sanctuary was fun at first, but as the other guy said, it quickly became a chore. I think it was more like either gacha chores or Harvest Moon daily chores, but he is not wrong that at the very end of the Island Sanctuary grind, it literally became "gather these materials and copy these answers into your spreadsheet"

It was cool in like the first week when you were figuring out how to catch the rare Pokemon or figuring out which landmarks you can unlock and stuff, but then it became another chore you had to do.
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One thing I never liked about XIV's housing is that there is no preview mode. All I have to go off of what an item even looks like is the item's icon and a short description in a tooltip, and I could never find a site that has every housing item available to preview.
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>>537706000
Well I liked Harvest Moon, so that explains why I had fun with Island Sanctuary.
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>>537706036
You can walk into your house, type /housing, and preview most if not all of the decorations. If I pick up an item I've never seen before, I google it, and usually there are images or a Meoni video showcasing the item.

>>537706208
Yeah, it is basically Harvest Moon, but more gatekept by time. And no cute girl to marry either. I picked Karen btw.
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>>537706380
Then that explains why I like it. I play a lot of survival games and I always stop as soon as I unlock farming and cooking.
Come play Valheim with me and I'll keep everyone fed and drunk.
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>>537706380
Does it show you stuff you don't physically have though? The exact thing I think I need might be on the MB ready to buy, but I'd never know it was what I was looking for based only on the icon and tooltip until I go through the hassle of buying it, previewing it, then potentially going back and reselling if it wasn't what I needed.
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>>537706604
>Come play Valheim with me and I'll keep everyone fed and drunk.
I believe you but I'm not interested.
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>>537706782
>Does it show you stuff you don't physically have though?
Yes. It's a whole list of things. It might be every decoration in the game, I'm not sure. I do have a house but I'm not a housing guru or someone who sells Makeplace premades. Just go to your house/apartment and try it out.
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horrible thread
disgusting
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>>537706804
Fair, Valheim isn't that fun. But I like the cooking in it. I can't stand FFXIV's crafting.
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>>537706958
Wish I had known that earlier. I had owned a house since in Shirogane since Stormblood but ended up losing it due to being inactive for a year during the great lull before Dawntrail. Although given how Dawntrail has been its possible some wards may have some houses up for sale due to people falling off, so maybe I'll try and get back into it.
Makes me wonder though if they can have a housing and decorations journal where you can preview everything in the game why can't they do that for glamour?
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>>537707325
But they did? You can interact with a bed in the inn and access the mogstation items in there?
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One true love and waves!
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>>537707938
Needs spankings.
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Is FFXIV a gacha? Sounds like a gacha.
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Is FFXIII shit? Sounds like shit.
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>>537707523
>the only glamours you can preview are the things you can only buy with real money
Maybe the hat I'm looking for drops in some random Heavensward dungeon, but I'd never know that unless I look through third party sites or download something like Anamnesis to browse through and preview things I don't have. If they're looking at third party things to implement into the game that's one things they need to find a way to implement. Its crazy that the game has such a sprawling glamour scene while simultaneously having some of the most barebones glamour features imaginable. I'll give WoW credit in that they've had a functional transmog journal for over a decade you can use to put together oufits even out of shit you've never seen before.
And increase the plate limit from twenty already jesus christ. Two new jobs and no new plates for DT.
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>>537708340
Oh, you mean preview normal, non-mog items.
Yeah, outside of finding it and trying it, you're shit outta luck. It was very bad for me when I found a NPC in Eureka I really liked and I tried to replicate her fashion, but you can't inspect NPC, so good luck with that.
I had to cheat and use a pluging to examine her and see what she was wearing.
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>>537707325
>Wish I had known that earlier.
There's also MakePlace, which I believe is now ReMakePlace, which is as program you can download that you can create a house in. It might be more what you're looking for. I don't know if the plugin broke sometime between now and the last time I used it, but you could also save your MakePlace and "export" it into the game, where if you pressed a button and had all of the things in your inventory it would create the house in game that you made in MakePlace
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>>537713048
Sounds like what >>537703485 is using.
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>>537713505
Yeah, I think that's what the decorators use, otherwise shit would take forever to place. I think they just sell designs. You can also just steal designs off MakePlace. There are a lot of (or were a lot of) "open source" designs you could download.

>>537707325
>Makes me wonder though if they can have a housing and decorations journal where you can preview everything in the game why can't they do that for glamour?
There are a lot of... archaic things about many systems in the game, yeah. I use Anamnesis to preview stuff. Pretty much any complaint about the game can be fixed with a plugin or a program, which sucks that it's not just in the game, but it's something.
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Is this discussion really Final Fantasy related?
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>>537713952
Oh yeah, they do. The page clarified it, they only sell the design, you're the one who has to provide the furniture.
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>>537714985
I prefer this to shitposting. At least people are being civilized.
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>>537696608
Meds, now.
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My wife Eiko is very cute!
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Whats up with the FF14 image spam?
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>>537721717
THE BEST
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>>537689452
Cecil...
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I liked FFXVI, XV, and 7 Remakes
Will I like XIV? I tried it before (Marauder) but it didn't click for some reason... Might give it another shot. It's got some hot bitches at least
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>>537665556
FF doesnt do that though, only FF14 is a live service since it's an MMO and 11 too but that one doesnt count meanwhile the vast overwhelming majority of FF games are singleplayer with no microtransactions
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>>537688686
Underrated gem, I want a UE5 Remake and a sequel
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crazy how nobody is posting
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>>537754184
Why did you bump this shitty thread ? let it die
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>>537754184
>crazy how nobody wants to post in a general infested with a lot of mentally ill shitposters
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The Heroine, Vanille, has always been destined to save us.
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>>537754886
What are you here for then
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>The guy savage minigame from MGS3 og/delta is more of an action game than FF XVI was.
sad how Yoshida fails at everything he does nowadays.
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>>537665556
>>537664556
>>537671771
Shouldn't you be in /xivg/?
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>>537708182
No. Just very mid.
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>>537714985
>>537707053
>t. always posting about Yoshida screencaps
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>>537762274
t. making unfounded assumptions
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>>537763256
You're simply hard to mistake for those whiners
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>>537763493
>t. making another unfounded assumption
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>>537763645
Who are you quoting?
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>>537763645
Not very bright, arentcha?
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>>537766507
>>537768717
>t. asking unsubstantiated questions
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Tyro won.
Elarra won.
Dr. Mog won.
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>post about XIV housing
>get conversation about XIV housing
Literally asked for it.
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>>537778670
He's just not very intelligent, lmao!
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The ending sequence of Rebirth can eat a dick
How do you fuck up the death scene so bad?? The altar? The fucking Jenova Life fight and the "Sephiroth Reborn" shit?

It fucking pisses me off how so much more elegant it was in the PS1 release. I get that they want a "big finale" for a game that took like 5 years to make but why piss up scenes you didn't have to fix??
FUCK
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>>537786647
>fuck up
The original is still there.
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>>537786647
The original still exists, your criticism has been invalidated.
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>>537786647
You're literally crying about the original being deleted from existence, but that hasn't happened
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>>537786647
If you wanted or expected a 1:1, just play the original. You people are so ungrateful. And wrong.
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>>537786647
Oh I'll add, does anyone like the "Whispers" shit? I hated it in Remake and I'm pretty sure everyone else did from the Time Janny memes and they doubled down on it in Rebirth.
Like, what does it even add? It fucking sucks in every possible way.

>>537793071
(+3 others)
Hello Mr. Samefag, thanks for intentionally misinterpreting what I said.
You can redo a scene, you can do it different, you just have to do it well.
They didn't, they dropped the ball.
That's all.
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>>537786647
I thought it was pretty good.
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>he doesn't like Whispers
You don't belong here. Final Fantasy has always been Kingdom Hearts.
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>>537795025
The original is still there.
>>537796148
Dude, don't break formation now.
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>>537786647
I personally liked it but to each their own.
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>>537756601
Personally im here for images.
But apparently that makes me a lightningfag for some reason
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>he's talking about himself for no reason
>again
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>>537786647
I fucking loved the game as a whole but they absolutely ruined everything from the city of the ancients onward.
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Are we finally free of. You know who. I havnt seen any images in a while.
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Rebirth’s ending upset me so much I shot my tv.
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>>537803349
you're just not offtopic enough
ahem
FF16 is a video game
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>>537803438
FF16 has grown on me so much since it came out. I really love most of the gameplay, makes me excited for the potential of what FF17 can do.
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Fucking incredible
stellar performance spammer-ku
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Lmao this guy really fucking hates FF16 doesn't he. Peak FF7 schizo.
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Lmao, this is crazy. How insecure can someone be?
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>He's actually gone insane
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I miss when this thread had an actual moderation team
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Is DoS worth playing? the plot synopsis seems kinda retarded
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FF16 is a good game, no matter what bot spammy says.
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>>537804946
I genuinely hope it gets a Remake like Crisis Core did. I think a TPS FF game could be fun, but I doubt I'll ever emulate it at this point. If I was going to do that, I probably would have already.
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Who's the most nu-metal FF character?
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FF16 is a trash, no matter what cultists says.
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https://na.store.square-enix-games.com/final-fantasy-vii-rebirth_-material-ultimania

we predict who will be on part III's book in 2027 or 2028.
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>>537811128
>Cloud
>Zack
Sephiroth, obviously.
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>>537811319
Sephiroth in Part 3? Really?
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>>537811697
Who else could it even be? Aerith? Genesis? ...Glenn?
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FF7R is a video game
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>>537811879
they could pull a remake + intergrade since that cover has Cloud and the gang viewing the outskirts of midgar.
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Purest Rose.
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>>537804750
I don't. It was awful when fatherless shitposters were protected.
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>>537803383
Were you upset because you found it sad, or upset because you didn't like it?
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I liked FF16.
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>>537820428
Me too, even more so than FF7R.
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>>537808654
Why are you like this, spam botty?
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FF16 is based
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>saying you like FF16 is off topic spam
You are seriously mentally ill.
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>>537822959
He's obsessed with Yoshida for some reason.
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XVI is trash
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>>537825814 here, I misswrote ff13, sowwy
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I hope FF7R3 is as good as FF16 was.
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>>537826073
It'll be even better, I trust Nomura. He might not give us much news or any news at all. But i trust him to make something really great. FF16 was a good step into the modern era of gaming for the FF series. Now he can improve on that.
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>>537825958
Stop spamming.
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>>537825958
You angered the fatherless loser, lol.
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>>537826073
FF16 was perfect, it'll be hard to match that
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>>537827918
What did you like most about FF16?
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It's so unfathomable to the coprobot anyone likes FF16 that he automatically assumes it's a falseflag, ke
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You've been spamming for hours now. Get a life
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>>537828176
Who are you talking to? Are you off your meds again?
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>>537826073
>>537827918
I would be very surprised if 7R3 manages to top the 10/10 FFXVI.
They would really have to pull out all the stops and I don't think they have the budget for that after Rebirth's underperformance.
I think we're looking at another Lightning Returns situation here, folks.
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>>537830048
>I think we're looking at another Lightning Returns situation here, folks.
What, a massive failure that embarrasses SE for years to come, so badly that they try to hide it?
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>>537830113
Some say Redditbirth already achieved this. I'm inclined to agree.
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>>537830337
I wouldn't go that far. Rebirth just wasn't what many Final Fantasy fans expected, myself included. Still a fun Ubisoft game though.
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you think they'll integrate first soldier into part 3 or will ever crisis have its own standalone game?
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>>537831839
Ever Crisis is not performing well, so it's likely that any loose ends will be tied up in 7R3.
They've hinted at some kind of 7R4 or further spinoffs but I don't think it's going to happen at this point.
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>>537832385
so much for the turks and before crisis
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>Reddit
>Ubisoft
>Reddit
>Ubisoft
Meanwhile, in the real world, XVI is legitimately the worst big budget game I have ever played.
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>>537832385
We just making shit up now?
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>>537832624
Anecdotal. The numbers speak for themselves.
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>>537832624
maybe developers should take the hint to not get inspired by game of thrones and western pandering
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>>537830048
>>537831432
You triggered the cult
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>>537832624
This. The game is genuinely nothing but empty spectacle slop made with the intent of its big moments going viral and selling more copies (which it never did, thus contributing to its sales absolutely cratering after that initial week).
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>>537830048
I think 7R3 needs to launch day 1 with a very attractively priced bundle of all 3 games that they can attribute as 3 instances of Remake sales if we want to have good numbers.
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Even if they fixed 16's gameplay and systems it would still leave the world and the characters as bland and boring as all hell.
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>>537833571
i wonder how many GB are compressed for the switch 2?
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>>537832624
So you haven't played any, got it.
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>>537833571
Sadly I don't even think this would do it.
There's just no saving the 7R series after Stillbirth flopped so bigly..
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>>537836347
A good example why phone users should not be allowed to post on 4chan.
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>>537836347
>deleted
Based Janny.
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>>537837736
You can delete your own posts. They probably had multiple tabs open and realized they posted it to the wrong one.
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HOLY BASED
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>>537786647
Its kino
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>>537842130
Miyazaki feels the same way.
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So wait.
Cloud WASN'T a soldier, he was just implanted with JenovAIDS and given Mako Poisoning then rebuilt his personality around Zack yapping??

How'd he learn to use a sword like that then?? Good listener?
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>>537847830
Correct, this is a core aspect of Final Fantasy VII that the Remake fucked up.

In the original, Cloud *is* Zack all the way up until it's all revealed. He's not *pretending* to be a cool guy, he *is* a cool guy. In Remake, Cloud visibly acts like he's some mopey dopey schizo who is pretending to be someone else. That's not how it works. Having Cloud visibly act like he's pretending to be a cool guy completely misunderstands one of the core pillars that holds the original story up. He *is* Zack.
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I now believe that the truth really angers people because whenever someone says FF16 is shit, XVIfag get triggered and start spam shitposting which just shows there’s some truth to it. If I say FF9 is shit, nobody will care or pay attention because everyone knows it’s bullshit and I’m just trolling.
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As long as no one makes negative remarks about Yoshida, XIV, or XVI, we will be fine.
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I now believe that the truth really angers people because whenever someone says posts a truth about Remake, VIIRgins get triggered and start spam shitposting which just shows there’s some truth to it. If I say FFII is shit, nobody will care or pay attention because everyone knows it’s bullshit and I’m just trolling.

If you comment on IX's loading times, someone gets really butthurt about it
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>>537848598
You just prove him right, retard.
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>>537848780
How? I haven't even played XVI. No one was even talking about XVI. I replied to a post about Remake. The last post about XVI was 3 hours ago.
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The irony here is that XVI is so uninspired and unoriginal that people call it medieval Naruto. Even the cultists defending it can’t come up with their own arguments and just copy the shitposters. What does that make them?
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>>537832690
yeah, no one played XVI.
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> I haven't even played XVI.
Many such cases!
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I wonder if the switch port of XVI is coming before Rebirth and XIV
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>>537848598
This is true and what actually happened. The cult of VII was triggered immensely by a little banter.
Very sad.
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>>537831432
Unfortunate how that played out.
We could have had a whole marvel-inspired VII cinematic universe but nobody bought.
Think of all the multiversal plotghost kino that would have danced to Nomura's whims..
now lost forever, just like Tifa's cleavage
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>>537827918
It would be perfect if we could also play as other characters
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>>537856970
It would be perfect if we could play it, not watch 20 hours of cutscenes
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Fragrant Fantasy.
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>>537850363
This
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>>537850363
Not this
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>>537848598
Truth will always hurt a lot more than trolling or insincere ragebait ever will. That's why "you'll like it no matter what" stings the fanboy all the way to the core. They know it's true, and that's why they can't stand to hear it. They don't even deny it, they just get mad that you've said it.
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200 IQ Fantasy.
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Fantasy Returns: Final Fantasy



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