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>Demo Days
Next: https://itch.io/jam/agdg-demo-day-64
Previous: https://itch.io/jam/agdg-demo-day-63
Older: https://hackmd.io/LhEB6VCZSx-oBalI2cWWoA

>AGDG resources
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>Helpful links
New Threads: >>>/vg/agdg
Archive: https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/search/subject/agdg/
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>How to WebM
https://obsproject.com
https://github.com/argorar/WebMConverter
https://github.com/michaelmob/WebMCam

>Previous thread
>>537807374
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>fix a bug
>ten new ones take its place
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sometimes i feel like i will never be good enough, should i just quit gamedev?
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Osursissies... did we lose?
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>>537887409
having to be good at something is a modern invention. our prehistoric ancestors were content to live in caves and hit rocks together. be glad you aren't living in some primitive backward period in history or that you don't live in india.
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>>537887463
The moment they start realizing it's not a meritocracy and it's already been oversaturated will be so delicious
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Which of these two UI layouts works better?
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can you at least try to be nice to me
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>>537888029
were you ever nice to me?
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>>537888007
there's no money in rpgmaker unless it's porn
stop
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>>537888007
>4 niggas in a row
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>>537888029
i will try, i have no reason not to be nice to you

>>537887958
okay but this doesn't have anything to do with gamedev, although, yes, i do want to do what's impossible, and yes, it hurts that i can't, i was so motivated before the reality sank in.
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5 niggas in a circle
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8 trans niggas in a discord server jerking each other off even tho their games are mid
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>>537886067
>>537887128
Every game i love is either made with an in house engine or source engine. Ill entertain the idea of using one of the popular engines AFTER i play a game that has good movement made with one. That hasnt happened yet.
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>>537888654
Glad she had a nice day
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>>537888876
shut up retard
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>>537888876
Actually no, i changed my mind, id rather be tortured to death than use an engine
>>537888965
Projecting because you cant code good movement?
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>>537889038
no just tired of listening to you beg for someone to wipe your ass for you
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Eating "healthy" has been sabotaging my gamedev. It's bad for the soul.
My creative output and motivation and drive have increased dramatically since I started enjoying good food. And by good food I mean very bad very tasty food.
But that's because (I)'m motivated by food. Whatever (You)r vices are and whatever you're wasting your energy resisting every day, try indulging in them and see if they will help you make a better game or at least make gamedev better even if the game will be the same flop it would have been in any case.
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>>537889069
Im not doing that. But you are clearly angry and projecting because you cant write code at all little enginlet, go back to having tim do every bit of real work for you, your lego set game is gonna be soooo epic right?
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>>537888654
The stand-up app looks more exciting than the game she's working on.
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You boys ready for DD?
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>>537888876
>Ill entertain the idea of using one of the popular engines AFTER i play a game that has good movement made with one. That hasnt happened yet.
Pseudoregalia was made in unreal.
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>>537889341
I'm a girl dickhead
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>>537889089
>Whatever (You)r vices are
4chan is my only vice
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>pseudogenitalia
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>>537888654
turns out that's how you get 20 reviews in the first month after 6 years of development.
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>>537889921
Should have made a game that people actually want to play
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>>537889213
You said in the last thread all you've done is make a box move around on screen, and it goes diagonal faster because you're not normalising it.

You're living proof that the loudest most obnoxious spergs in the thread are retarded nodev tourists
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>>537889921
>>537890007
that studio made a 2000+ review game in 2016, 160 review game in 2021 and a 20 review game in 2025.
just in case some of you think gamedev is like a RPG where you just make progress. chances are your first game will be your most successful game. that's how much skills and experience and fanbases are worth.
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>>537889709
>be woman
>make a game called dickhead
>game is about trying to get achievement points for the biggest dick head score
why isnt this your million copies sold indie game?
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>>537890192
Should have made a game that people actually want to play
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>>537889921
'We're screwed' got renamed for some reason.
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>>537889089
I can't eat chocolate, I don't want to poison that dog in me.
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>>537889709
so am i, but the question remains, are you ready for demo day? if we both make it it's unironically a victory for feminism, or at least for me it is
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>>537890192
>>537889921
shouldnt be particularly surprising if you just look at the games, even after watching the trailer for the most recent one i have basically no idea what the game is about. it just looks like their goal was to make a "co-op game" with no further vision than that
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>>537890186
>i take the pre made character controller lego and connect it to the pre made 3rd person camera lego and connect it to the pre made physics engine lego and connect it to the pre made npc lego ans connect it to the pre made interactable object lego and...
Ive made almost nothing and you have made less than me.
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>>537888654
>>537890348
I hate women so fucking much it's unreal....
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>>537888654
Here's my routine:
>Wake up
>Sit and use my computer next to my bed
>Drink cold coffee from a pot my mom made last night
>Twitter, 4chan, youtube
>Get some work done
>Microwave some left overs if I'm hungry
>Get back to the compoooter and eat while watching some show on appletv
>dev/doomscroll/watch /tv/
>Mom brings a hot malt drink in the morning
>Walk for ~hour in the yard while listening to music, brush and shower.
>Knocks on my door when lunch is done
>Make a plate and eat it while watching some tv show or documentary.
>dev/doomscroll/watch /tv/
>Eat dinner while watching something
>Put a podcast on the computer, lay in bed and play a mobile strategy game
>I'll fall asleep halfway through
>wakeup, repeat
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>>537890232
>still believes "people" exist
what are you, twelve?
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/v/3guy here.

Before we start the next season of the show and start accepting submissions for the December show (which I am not running), I want to know what you'd like to see from us going forward so I can take the feedback to the other organizer for his show, and use that for the next summer. All genuine criticisms and suggestions will be considered.
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>>537890602
comfy life, enjoy it while it lasts
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>>537890602
same. I'm 39
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>>537890754
why is there a december anyway? isnt the joke that its the spiritual successor to e3? why have two? if theres gonna be a 2 make it have a different theme than v3
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>>537890635
who are the billion niggas playing my demo and following my shit?
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>>537890186
What is your game again? oh right it's hollow knight silksong
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>>537890953
figs of your imagination
just like the dates you're going on
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>October 2024
>see Steam promoting horror games for Halloween
>”I should make a small horror game for next Halloween, that would be a fun beginner project”
>September 2025
>still haven’t started
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>>537890947
>why is there a december anyway?
We got enough people saying that they didn't like the summer show/wanted a more serious show and we're upset they didn't make it to the summer show that we opened up a second winter show. Believe it or not, there was enough devs who participated to where we feel it's ok to run this.
>isnt the joke that its the spiritual successor to e3?
Initially it was but now it's kinda become it's own thing which is why it's not "/v/3" but rather "v3expo". That and Nazis.
>if theres gonna be a 2 make it have a different theme than v3
Yeah the summer themes are different than winter. For example, the winter show will be Christmas themed while next summer will be Vaporware Beach themed. Plus the winter show is more focused and significantly less jokey than summer.
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mr tentacles is in
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>>537891309
I meant vaporwave beach themed. My bad.
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>>537891467
fuck off innercircler
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>>537891309
>that and nazis
are you banning chud games or something? I'm in development hell so i never tried to apply
>theme
no i dont mean topic i mean branding. like how japan/nintendo had spaceworld.
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>>537890583
Nobody cares how hard you work to make something, only that the thing you make is good and all the time you spend reinventing wheels that other people have made better than you ever coupe, the less time you get to actually make games.

Yeah I'm going to use a "premade physics engine lego" because I don't want to implement highly performant GJK convex polygon collision detection in C, I want to make a game.

Also why are you using the raylib premade lego set? Write your own Vulkan renderer, why are you using a premade compiler written by someone else? Make your own programming language. Why you using a premade operating system? Pathetic.

Unless you're Terry A Davis shut the fuck up
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>>537891223
haha its not like my games theme is a tie in to that or anything haha.
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>>537891530
>are you banning chud games or something
No no not like that at all. When you looked up /v/3 on Google you couldn't find us but you could find a Nazi prototype super weapon called "v3" which is why we rebranded.
>Theme
The other one is technically just "The /v/erdict" so that's our different name for it. It's played off like a newscast
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what ever happened to alchemikal?
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>open unity
>realize how much time setting up enemy ai will take
>realize it makes zero money
>close it and never open it again
this is me on gamedev
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>>537891760
I think it should be /v/3xpo

that will make it leet, identifiable in a search engine, and cringe all at once.
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>>537890754
>I want to know what you'd like to see from us going forward
HET
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bought a dev kit to fuck around with, have to wait a couple of days for it to arrive. then I can get a switch dev kit later on
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>>537891838
he betrayed us and was raped in the ass
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>>537891871
>open unity
>realize how much time setting up enemy ai will take
>make it turnbased and have enemies just pick random abilities
>open it and open it, again and again
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Is it just me or are people talking about the inner circle alot today, Why is that happening?
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>>537886904
Why do you keep putting this chris chan tier garbage in the OP? No one is laughing lil bro, I miss fygoon threads ngl
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>>537892152
>how are you doing today fellow hardworking honest devs
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>>537892152
demoday is tomorrow and innercircle games will DOMINATE
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>yes im a solo game developer how could you tell?
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>>537887409
your thoughts are not your own
you do not "feel" like you will never be good enough, hyperdimensional beings plant that idea inside your head for amusement
only option is to persist
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>ask any question on chatgpt
>"An excellent question to ask! Now we're getting into the subtle details on the classic and well-understood challenges of playing instruments through farts using 4D vector math. This is otherwise known as the [bold]Rasterized 4-Dimensional Flatulence-Propelled Instruments Problem.[/bold]"
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>>537891467
Looks cool
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The inner circle has hacked 4chan.

Every time you post in this thread 4chan installs a botnet node on your computer. The inner circle will activate this botnet during demoday to inflate their members' games popularity. Watch out for games being downloaded and played on your pc without your knowledge, if you are not vigilant you could end up with a copy of (A)woken on your computer.
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>>537892807
No it doesn't retard
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>my vibecoded ludokino is advancing very well
>cant post it here because of the minority of whiteoid lgbts who seethe at AI and will do anything to harm my chances of GMI
fucking westoid luddites and boomers, ruining the world for the rest of us china please take over quickly so we can move on
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>>537892726
blame retarded normies, they unironically want it to talk like this and jerk them off constantly
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>>537892814
I KNEW IT!!! I'VE BEEN TELLING YOU GUYS THAT THEY ARE GANG STALKERS
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>>537891719
>Nobody cares how hard you work to make something, only that the thing you make is good
Good movement matters to me and i havent seen any evidence at all that its possible with unity or unreal. Its not about working hard, its about QUALITY OF GAMEPLAY and the END RESULT!
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>>537892412
>how could you tell?
the smell
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>>537891934
Initially thought about that but the issue with that is the slashes.
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this is how it starts
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'cord is here
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>>537889921
>23 reviews
lmao
>>537890007
game?
>>537888654
>>537890348
>>537890602
she made another one
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MY GODOT GAME WILL NEVER BE FEATURED ON 5 GAMES MADE IN GODOT TO INSPIRE YOU!!!!!!
AAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!! THERE'S NO POINT GOING ON!!!!!!!!!! I GIVE UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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>>537892814
>YOOOOOOOOOO IS THAT CRITICISM OF MY 'CORD CIRCLEJERK? BETTER MAKE SOME REDDIT SELF DEPRECATING SATIRE IM SURE PEOPLE WILL LIKE US
equivalent of jews doing "da joos" bit, just face the consequences of your actions you tried to make /agdg/ an apartheid gamedev community with a caste system so it's not surprising everyone hates you
/agdg/ should be a meritocracy, no hugboxing your 'cord erp buddies, no crabbing devs you dont know or get threatened by because of their GMI aura
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>>537892891
They can't post it here because it doesn't exist.
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>>537892814
(a)woken isn't bad, despite the guy's self deprecation.
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>>537892891
I use AI and discourage others from using it. You'd be wise to do the same. the less of them using it the better your chances are.
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>>537893142
If this post is sincere I agree 100%
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I’m glad i’m not so called game dev. I’m an artist
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The guy constantly spamming the thread with his “inner circle” shit is clearly underaged, right?
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>>537893203
Nice try inner circle shill
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>>537893050
>the game used to hold a 1/5 rating, because it was broken and didn't work
>but ever since he's done literally no work on it, it just got more popular because of another game, suddenly now the game is actually 4/5 and very good

Lesson learned, make something popular. If something is popular, it's good. Popularity = Good, even if it's bad, it's still good if it's popular.
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The
Inner
Circle
Should
Be
Exterminated
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>>537892726
you can tell it to talk to you in any way you want
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>>537893142
>>537893234
I agree but to be clear, inner circle doesn't mean all yesdevs, it only means devs I don't like.
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>>537893087
fake. sunglasses and polarized screens don't mix
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Imagine being a game dev hard working gamedev at jobby
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>>537893282
I’d prefer to believe he’s under aged rather than a grown man so mentally stunted that he types like a child who just learned what online trolling is
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What do you do when you can't find the energy to make any progress, even small progress? I guess I'm depressed but I don't feel sad. I just feel a neurological-level inability to do anything I need to do
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>>537893495
The inner circle is a very specific group of clique-obsessed faggot devs who can't take criticism and support each other on the basis of being friends while undermining and suppressing all other games no matter how good they are. They are antithetical to the spirit of /agdg/ because this is supposed to be a hobby community, therefore the most important thing should be your work, not your spamming of funny images or derailing the thread because you're bored/horny/depressed
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>>537893701
If you feel like doing nothing, just lay down and do nothing for a while, rest
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Silksong killer
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>>537893727
I don't know how anyone would find this take controversial
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>>537893701
depression isn't feeling sad, despite popular belief. you are depressed. you're brain reward functions are not working. pills and or therapy.
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>>537893701
jerk off
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>>537893185
? personally im doing well, havent hit a roadblock yet and the prototype is 80% implemented
of course im gonna need a few months to add and finetune content but the game is almost done
>>537893215
i dont believe in that, i will help anyone who needs it, i dont think normalfags will be able to make anything valuable with AI because they're not artists in first place, a lot of people think that art is about grinding but its closer to a personality trait and genetics
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>>537893701
i feel this too, i haven't decided what to do
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>>537893957
>pills
nice try kike
do some exercise and stop eating goyslop
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>>537893937
If you’re going to samefag this obviously you need to at least wait a few minutes instead of doing it immediately after you make your post.
Come on man this is basic shit.
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>>537893701
I usually take a nap when I feel like that.
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>you cant draw
>you cant into 3d models
what game do you create?
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>>537894000
help me by not using AI
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>>537893495
>>537893727
>>537893937
BASED! I agree with these posts 100%
>>537894120
cope
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>>537892995
If its not possible in those engines then it won't be possible in your engine. There's nothing about other game engines that prevents you from building good character movement. But there are things stopping you from building good character movement if you write your own engine. Things like:
>needing to write an fbx or glb model importer
>needing to write a 3d model animation system.
>needing to write a physics engine with arbitrary convex polygon collision detection
>needing to write an audio system
>needing to write a particle system
>needing to write a level editor
All before you can actually write your character controller because part of good movement is good feedback and visuals, and making a box move around isn't going to get you there.

Youre trying to start building a pyramid from the top.
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>>537894194
Syntyslop open world crafting survival with 'pick one of 3 things' elements
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>>537893887
DA SILKSONG KILLLAAAAAAAAAAAA
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>>537894194
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>>537894113
>do some exercise
athletes get depression too... but yeah it helps if you do it in nature.
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>>537888007
top reminds me Earthbound too much
Down is meh
I'd experiment a little with different ideas, like having portraits in a folded deck of cards or have them inside of gun's cylinder.
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>>537893937
>>537894120
samefaggot
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>>537894194
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>>537894409
Rule the waves 2 was better, they streamlined the UI in 3 to try to get a broader audience but ended up combining too many elements and losing the a lot of the depth.
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If I made a game where you burn furries with a flamethrower would it be allowed on steam
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>>537894194
Text based CRPG
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>>537893047
>the slashes!!
nobody pronounces those /v/irgin.
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>>537873771
that's a good idea actually, get around all the voices sounding the same by using different people for different voices. Hmm I should add a "record this voiceline" button to my text boxes so that players can record & submit their own voice over with a little disclaimer appear on screen saying transferred all rights to game developer automatically upon upload or something. stealing this.
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If I had unlimited or couple of millions, I would just rent out or buy a cheap apartament and I would dev like theres no tommorow, just for the sake of it
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>>537894812
cool story bro
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Damn it, I'm retarded, I haven't finished the levels I was hoping to do before DD, why it's happening!
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>>537894203
how is me having to find a programmer instead of using AI helping you? you dont even know what niche game i'm making
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>>537894685
yes. and it would make bucket loads of money if it was friendslop. yiff in hell is a good name for it.
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>>537893727
Sure, but at the end of the day I don't want to be bitter about them. I want to be passionate about my game. That should be our goal
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>>537894708
slash vee slash
slash ay jee dee jee slash
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>>537895006
Are you part of the inner circle?
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stop with that inner circle autism
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>>537895036
*btw furries would end up as your primary audience.
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>>537888007
add a formation system like AoE2 had

you got all in a line (only top guy can receive melee attacks, every one behind him restricted to ranged attacks, -% to hit the further back they are)

all in a row (all can attack freely as per normal)

You got delta formation (two melees in the middle, two flank guys cannot melee attack and have -% to hit but are themselves protected from enemy melee attacks)

V formation (defeats enemy line formation with a strong tank out front gimmick)

and box formation of an inverted T like the arrow keys (one caster in the middle protected from melee in ambush fights)

and you move the portraits around either the bottom or up the sides to show the formations your party is in
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Mongol x Blood Meridian, a simple fps where you play as Judge Holden.
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>>537895009
>i'm making
you mean AI is making for you
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>>537895161
I don't have a discord
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This will be me one day meeting fans at my first con appearance
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>>537893142
agdg IS a meritocracy. If your game failed it's because it's a bad game, not because the inner circle is out to get you. Hell, the inner circle proves the meritocratic nature of agdg. Despite their concentrated efforts of the inner circle to promote their own, the bad inner circle games continue to fail to get attention on agdg anyways.

The world is perfectly just. Bad games always fail, good games always succeed.
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>>537893050
>on newgrounds
yeah, I thought so. Hollow knight has such kinda bad newgrounds-style art
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>>537895065
I just want to have an /agdg/ somewhere without an entrenched nepocratic oligarchy downplaying the accomplishments of people
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>>537895384
no im making it, AI is merely working with me kinda like an extremely underpaid employee ($20 a month)
else where is my finished game? show it to me since AI made it
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>>537894708
No one pronounces them but you'd have to look them up with it which makes SEO hard
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>>537895541
Blorb
Gobario
(A)woken
Cult of Damascus
Nortubel
Dungeon Watchers
Cosmic Call

Now without looking it up list me 5 /agdg/ games better than these ecelebs in the next 20 seconds
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>>537894194
You can get proficient in any of those to a sufficient level within 500 hours
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>>537895919
Exactly. There aren't any better agdg games. Those games rose to the top because they're the best games, not because of inner circle shilling.
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>>537895290
My break is done, gonna start working on Mongol again. I'll get back home in an hour. But God, I love Blood Meridian. >>537894194
I can't draw, nor can I model well, but at least I'm trying.
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>>537895919
land thing (the mech one)
rocket guy
cunny game
bokube
healed to death
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>>537895773
You're more like a lazy project manager. The AI is making it
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>>537895919
no, i will not participate in your popularity contest, the only thing that matters is the reviews post launch and not who you consider to be an "eceleb" which is the entire point of the criticism against your 'cord group
faggot
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>>537895645
That's valid, I don't really care about the clique status or if a dev is better than me or whatever, I just don't like the immature and condescending attitude some have towards people who are actually amateurs.
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>>537896081
>>537896128
>>537896170
these replies prove the general is dead. You deserve this hell
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>>537895480
a fan having a parasocial relationship with a creator is pathetic enough, but the reverse is something else. get a grip, anon.
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>>537895219
oh and btw this was making the different line formations be like dot points each on their own line not intentional reddit spacing but w/e
>>537892814
I was thinking, virtual machines have gotten shitter like you used to be able to get full HW accel in VMware and Virtualbox but latest virtualbox and VMware have gone to shit you cant even get basic DirectX 11 HW accel working in them anymore, and game engines have increased their GFX API requirements lately, its like, you pretty much have to run itch.io downloads directly, like directly on your actual computer not in a VM. And your old burner laptop from ebay for $100? no longer can even play a basic godot game, complains about GFX api. run it with an arg to bypass? visuals are just an empty skybox horizon, none of the game assets are visible even the UI is missing. Viruses must be spreading worse than ever before I'd say...
>>537895541
yeah pretty much, also, its filled with other devs who themselves barely even play games. give a basic game that does so-so to the general public, will be COMPLETELY ignored in this thread because guys making their own game have absolutely no time for mediocre mid games, for the most part only games with stealable mechanics or undeniable juice and appeal will get any traction. But a concerted schizo can still spam posts and replies about a game he has a personal boner on and fake its popularity, it wouldn't take much. thread probably doesn't have that many unique posters after all.
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>>537896154
oh? that's crazy, where is the game then since AI is making it?
i make the game design, art, write the story and dialogue, AI is just a codemonkey and i wouldn't even use it if programmers weren't the laziest and most unreliable members of any collab, trust me i tried
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>>537896229
game taste is subjective sweaty
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>>537896316
I’m gripping
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Name 5 bad agdg games.
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How many AI voice actings is allowed before /agdg/ and /v/ go shittye?
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>>537896476
mine apparently
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>>537896476
if i made 5 games they would all be bad
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>>537896476
This was a trick to get me to list 5 of my old games. Nice try, but I saw through it.
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>i make the game design
What level of ESL is this?
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>>537896423
So you're just an ideas guy?
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My game is still ignored and you are all retarded for that. You wouldn't see a train speeding towards you even if it was 5 meters away
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>>537890754
more funny songs and less indian pixel news presenter
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You don't use AI, AI uses you. Goodbye to your brain elasticity.
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>>537896316
dont get ragebaited
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>>537896678
What’s this from it looks cute
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>>537893453
you have turned chatgpt into a female sex slave... detroit become human starts here.
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>>537893701
>aggydaggy
>gooning
>watch youtube (gamedev, science and art mostly)
>music
>trying some stuff with music and trying to learn in the process
>more gooning and getting ideas to coomdev
>maybe reading a book
I do this while also gamedevving as >>537893087
>I just feel a neurological-level inability to do anything I need to do
What do you normally do? Even if you don't feel into doing what you need, you have to do something. Gooning maybe? If so, do some good cardio (you're doing it already while gooning lol) until you cannot even breathe.
When I was depressed the most insignificant thing paused my desire to do things for weeks. This >>537893957 helps A LOT.
The first and most important step is to recognize that you have a problem. Also you can try some mental health videos.
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>>537896684
I've made like 30 games at this point, all of which were rightly ignored because they were genuinely bad games that didn't deserve attention. If your game is ignored it's because your game is bad.
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>>537896096
wat happened to you mongol
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>>537896834
Whew you people are blind
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awawawawawawa
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>>537896678
i'm like the CEO, and the idea guy and the art director and the main artist and the main writer and the codemonkey wrangler all in one
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i can't post my game anymore
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>>537896884
Job. After losing my /v/irginity to a hooker, I lost my edge. A story as old as time.
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>>537895919
that's easy
>Acrolyte
>Ctesiphon
>Ninja Game
>Shanghai Gold
>Illusive Domain
from the top of my head. There's more like Moku, Deadwire, Cosmic Construct, Landsword, Eastern Flower and plenty more. What you fail to understand is that Blorb and Gobario were short learning projects from devs that one day showed up and tried their damnest to have something ready for demoday in like a month. I wouldn't call Nortubel popular, it has a meme status because dev was posting lore and his drawings all the time while also being very chill. From these games I'd say that only Awoken brings real weight - big levels, mech fighting, different weapons, everything modelled in 3D. It's impressive even though I'm not into mecha games. I also don't understand why you hate Cosmic Call so much. Yea, it's a simple arena shooter roguelike with very basic graphics but at least dev finished his project, sold couple of copies and moved on to another project (also memeworthy)
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>>537896982
So all the jobs that don't do any actual work
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>>537895919
the driving game. the busted metal or w/e its called. that one was fun. and I also liked that magic girl roguelite against the floors of terrorists thought that could be cool. and those crappy mspaint VNs with the bluehair phonegirl those are pretty interesting to me. I kinda like the aesthetic of dreams of joy departed as well but the gameplay style is a bit too boring to me I only played like 45 min of that and not too interested to play more unironically I'd rather watch a streamer play it than play it myself lmao
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>>537897065
You're mentally ill
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>>537897032
Should have gone for the wizarding academy
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>>537893087
Wow, she's literally me.
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>Gooning maybe? If so, do some good cardio (you're doing it already while gooning lol)
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>>537897180
elaborate
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Pongtris... Tetripong...
The possibilities!
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/agdg/ is the nesting ground for some of the biggest retards on the entire internet
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>>537897341
You're here....
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>>537897101
i disagree with your assessment, games without game design or art arent games while you can make games without programming (visual scripting, blueprints, rpgmaker, renpy, etc)
you must be new to gamedev, welcome
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>>537897341
Hola, el retardo
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>>537896096
welcome back!
>>537897032
>After losing my /v/irginity to a hooker, I lost my edge
holy shit Newton was right
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>>537897341
I can confirm I'm fucking retarded as we speak
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>>537897341
it's just irony married with sarcasm, I'm sorry you can't comprehent our level of discourse
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>>537897341
th-thanks
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I would respect a lot of you if you had any integrity or wisdom or talent or enthusiasm or a soul or even an interesting game concept that just hasn't been fully realized yet, but you have none of those things. I cannot stand you deformed creatures of evil. You're not human beings deserving of dignity or respect. I haven't even seen any basic intelligence like the one you would see in a dog.
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>>537897341
Game dev is an autism magnet, so it's hard to tell if you're talking to neckbeards or to children.
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>>537897341
Too many NEETs think that gamedev is the equivalent of a lottery ticket
When they realize that gamedev is a lot of work they stop trying but stay here and pollute the place.
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>>537897562
Thanks fren.

They is four things that can destroy /agdg/, women, normalfags, nodevs and niggers.
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>>537897341
good morning retardaggies
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thinking of returning to this project, I mean, I've got enemies, all I need is some maps
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>>537897463
>lets AI make a game for they/them
>calls me a newfag
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>>537897736
I'm a gamedev dog.
Please wooflist my game.
Awooo!
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>>537888007
A. You need to give some margins if you want things to look nice. Pushing to use all the screen space is bad.

You can put less important shit near the edge if you really have to.
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>>537897562
More than that, as Newton was dying he bragged that dying a virgin was his life's greatest accomplishment.

Virginity is precious and should be jealously guarded, not casually thrown away.
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>>537897890
>xhe is having an HRT induced meltdown because i'm using AI instead of blueprints
many such cases, get some testosterone lil blud
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I wasted 3 dias of melody compositional practice just to realize the leaps in melodies literally follow the intervals of chords.
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it doesn’t work…
fuck my fucking girldev life
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>>537898079
relax
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yet another Unity hit while you're playing with toddler engines
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>>537898090
Rookie mistake
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>>537898219
this is me every day
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>>537898275
The rich get richer

I HATE THE INNER CIRCLE
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>>537898248
TPD
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>>537898368
>hollow kinght dev
>mentions the inner circle for some reason
what the brainrot?
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>>537894771
>Hmm I should add a "record this voiceline" button to my text boxes so that players can record & submit their own voice
The amount of time you'd need to get your game to automatically record, upload the recordings, put the UI throughout your game to record lines, and the time spent reviewing the recordings... Just get a job at McDonald's and pay a voice actor.
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>>537898354
=VwV=
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>>537898286
Not a mistake, I think I basically rediscovered the reasons why we use chords today instead of freeflowing shit like in the baroque.

Chords are just shortcuts to write stuff.

A chord can function as the guideline to write stuff like the high melody voice, the bass, the root pad.

It's basically like a very condense form of the 4 baroque voice writing.

I can literally talk now for like 30 minutes from just a single jazz chord.
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This general actually died when Underspace flopped and everyone turned on Trainwiz. If that game couldn't hit 1k in it's first month then who else from agdg could?
That was the day the crabs won
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what do you use for writing down tasks beyond the one you're currently working on? I've tried a dedicated paper and pencil book and I've tried obsidian, but they are both too disorganized for me once I made many notes

I think the book was the best so far because I'd do a little [ ] empty box to the left of stuff and tick it if i done it or cross the whole line out if I canceled it

do any use kanban stuff? how do you find it?
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>>537898506
I've been fixing bugs all day you fucking faggot. I need to release some frustration
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>>537898664
Now you've done it
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>>537898748
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>>537898783
sticky notes stuck to my monitor
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>>537898370
oh, is that like extreme retardism?
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>>537898748
It died after DD50 when sober stopped doing DD streams.
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>>537898850
there's a single thing I need to practice left, which is a session of how to write hook motifs.
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>>537898850
>>537898286
newfag
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Here it is. My progress. My Life's work
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>>537897341
I'm one of them. I've tweaked my game probably 20 times to make it easier to understand, and not one of the changes has helped in any capacity.
Actually 70% of these changes were from feedback so my game is like a kaleidoscope where everyone has their own hyper specific issue that they also don't want me to know about.
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i give up......
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>>537898837
That's fair, Have you been crabbed by them too?
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>>537897796
>>537897761
>>537897736
wheres your game?
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>>537898275
that's just some shartformer. I'd like to see them make something like >>537894409 in Unity.
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>>537898783
a big text document
i keep meaning to use some more organized ticketing system though but never get around to it
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>>537899364
On Steam unlike yours
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>>537899364
It'll be in the demo day tomorrow.
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>>537899057
bobba you motherbobba
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>>537898748
The guy samefags his own posts and has been called out many times, we were always against him. The janny is his friend too.
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>>537899593
>>537899604
>doesnt post a game
lol
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>>537898748
Why shouldn't underspace have flopped? What was special about it
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>>537898748
>then who else from agdg could?
Me.
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>>537899897
>please please PLEASE dox yourself so I can gangstalk you and try to ruin your life PLEASE
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>>537899593
Wasting $100 isn't something to be proud of or brag about
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>>537900082
you have no game
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>>537897341
Show of hands: how many of you were GATE kids? I think horseshoe theory must apply to the bell curve. There's a point where thinking is so lateral it becomes indistinguishable from retardation. I have to take pills to suppress my power.
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>>537898994
>xhe doesnt know
welcome to 4channel, we love AI in here so expect more clashes with our lovely denizens
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>>537900092
wasting? I already made it back
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Progressing with the boss. Now it's time to smash as many bugs as possible before tomorrow.
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>>537900440
you went a little overboard while making pong
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>>537898783
>but they are both too disorganized for me once I made many notes
use multiple files, duh!
>>537900082
nta but that's how you make fans
>>537899364
>he got butthurted with those trvkes
ngmi
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>>537900440
Looks good. Good luck with development. I hope it goes smoothly.
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Is it possible to make a compelling game out of this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RKWLu6UHryQ
The video got almost 7 million views ($20-25k in ad revenue) so there's got to be something appealing that can be turned into a game.
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>>537899526
I'm just using the one that comes with self hosted gitlab, only just started so dunno if its actually going to work good though
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You wanna know what the funniest thing about the "post your game" schizo is? You can just tell from the way he posts he's just feverishly salivating at the mouth for a chance to smear someone's game. He thinks he's so clever but his tactics are transparent as air. As long as nobody posts his game the assumption is that the posters posting outrageous things are someone with a shit game that's completely unimportant, so he thinks he has the advantage. If someone dares to post his game, the better the game is the better it will be for the schizo because then he can say "I knew it, you have the wrong opinions so now I will dedicate my life to spamming this everywhere" because you just know that he hates some of the more successful yesdevs and is just waiting for the devs to "expose themselves" as unfriendly chuds so he can act righteous about hating the game the entire time.
This always was and always will be about you seething crabs hating some of the games and looking for an excuse to tear down the devs. You need to bring us to your level because you have nothing else. You feel fine being at the bottom because you got nothing to lose, but love dragging the people who have everything to lose because that's the only way you can feel powerful and important
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>>537900964
im sure you could make some simulator slop like that job simulator one and make bank
just make it hard to control so it makes a mess of things for le streamer content and let people spit in the burgers
now i think about it, you could combine it to a papersplease-like where you deliberately make shitty burgers for people you dont like
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>>537897341
It's delusional NEETs hoping they can dump their passion project randomly onto Steam with zero pre-emptive business strategy and get rich. This rarely happens. They view it as a lottery ticket because they treat it like a gamble. The serious developers treat the process like a professional business, and their results align with their effort.
I can't imagine being willing to devote years of your life towards making a game in hopes of getting rich, without putting any effort into ensuring this result will occur. It's foolish, and reeks of a spoiled manchild taking advantage of the freedom of his youth.
When their games inevitably fail, and they need to find a job or end up homeless, working 40+ hours per week will make them regret not treating this pursuit with more respect.
If you're not willing to do market research and confirm an audience exists for your game before you spend years working on it, at least try to develop and audience on the side while developing it. Please. You're wasting the most valuable years of your life on delusional art projects. This is not wise.
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>>537898783
>I think the book was the best so far because I'd do a little [ ] empty box to the left of stuff and tick it if i done it or cross the whole line out if I canceled it
I do this. I use wikidpad though, it's like Wikipedia for your project
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>waa waaaaaaaaaa the thread is full of nodev losers
>my game? uhhh i left it on my other pc
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>>537900964
I see "TCG Card Shop Simulator" get very high CCV consistently.
Watame got like 20k+ CCV in her 7 hour stream, and Fubuki is getting 17k as we speak.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=evDVhZlcz9I

The game is a bit old now, I don't understand why people, especially Japanese, are obsessed with it.
It could have something to do with it being streamerbait, idk.
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>>537900964
Actually it's been done already
https://youtu.be/e-IPT4iA1PA?t=544

>>537901261
I will never cater to st*eamers or their retarded audiences.
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>>537901392
My game goes to another school
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>>537899897
>>537900141
where's your Game?
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bros… I just got a raise
$2100 more per year to sink into my game
How should I spend it?
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>>537901408
500 reviews in an hour is incredible
i think it peaks at 60k?
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>>537901634
i wasnt the one complaining about nodevs, theres no reason for me to post a game
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>>537901408
>redditors rushing to be le funny man reviewer
its literally illegal to negatively review it
same with shartdew, you're telling me thats genuine reviewing? its closer to a psyop
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>>537901408
Too many bugs
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>>537901408
>>>/v/
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>>537901408
see, I knew games in the "indie" and "2D" genre were popular, now to take up 1 slot in everyone on steam's discovery queue for the next 4 years because they like games in the "indie" genre
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>>537901408
>not even a launch discount
must be nice to be popular
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I can't believe silksong is ONLY $20!!!! I WOULD PAY $100!!!! :(__)
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hollow knight should have a DLC that's just a 50 dollar donation, it'd by 5 because the devs DESERVE IT for making something youtubers told me is good and popular
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>>537901679
support trans creators like rotate and norubel
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>>537901319
>They view it as a lottery ticket because they treat it like a gamble
this is my only hope to avoid a life of meaningless wageslaving
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>>537901679
Buy an ad
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I feel like the pajeet nodevs are beginning to be filtered these past few threads. They now revolve around posting wall of texts (that i will not give (You)s) like an actual tranny making a meme, because they are desperate of having our attentions.

Keep it up boys. Post progress and actual discussions, and ignore those parasites. You will all make it, while they will legit kill themselves
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>>537900440
i get that you want the background to be subdued and not add to visual noise so you might (?) not want to normal map it, but maybe parallax layers or something, it kind of looks like those town mats that day cars have. or some carpet pattern.

not sure how parallax on town would work, if you scroll the streets slower than the buildings then they wont line up eventually. you should def separate the over passes and scroll them slightly faster than the rest so that by the time they reach bottom screen the front walls are almost covered.

maybe if each building was its own sprite object and you vertical scaled them shorter slightly as they go to the bottom.

or maybe just some faint cloud cover that is clipped by buildings at mid height.

Actually I think the queue that is really making it look flat is the fighter and option bits shadows. maybe ya can vertically offset the shadows based on what invisible polygon they are on, and you draw metadata polygons (like frame data) over the bg that scroll with it that say the "height" of the ground under it and offset them like that. Theres probably a way to do it with a shader (pass current position as a uniform) and a depth map.

you could get photoshop, but the background in it, make a new layer, and get a fat brush, set layer to 50% trans, and paint red over roads and ground floor of buildings, green over highway, blue over the top half of buildings, then on the screen XY you put a shadow, use math to take in the scroll position of the BG for the corresponding BG XY, then use that XY to lookup the shadow offset map, and then based on the color at that position, shift the shadow +Y or -Y by a fixed amount, then the shadows would hop up and down over terrain and maybe it wouldn't look like a flat poster
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>>537902230
You're brown + you have no game
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>>537900964
I already have a kino idea for a good viral slop simulator using this theme.
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>>537900964
Ever play Cooking Mama m8?
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>>537902129
Are you putting any effort into ensuring the financial viability of your games? You'll probably fail if you don't. The wagecage awaits you if you don't take this seriously. You don't need to become soulless and abandon your passion, but you should put implement at least some conventional business procedures to ensure your games won't horrendously fail. The regret will haunt you forever. When you begin working, you'll have very little time or energy left to work on games. Treat this pursuit with respect.
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>>537902475
>blows into microphone
Cool down!
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>>537902502
Just post devlogs on youtube, for each major progress you made. That way, even if your game's sale failed, at least there will be some revenue from YouTube
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I'm in no position to judge. I'm no better than any fellow man. We all have our own unique struggles to contend against. Good luck to all of us.
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>>537901319
>>537902502
Who the fuck are you talking to? There's like three games here that meet this description tops and the rest of them aren't like that at all but might seem like that to an ignorant and blind know-it-all like you
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>>537901261
call it burgers please
man i am too good at game design you guys are lucky to have me here
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>If you win too much, people will pirate the game because they cannot buy your game
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>>537902745
what caused this crazy popularity? it was a good game sure but this seems excessive
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>>537902592
Such a good time. Such a fun time.
You know, this game help me not just survive university, but actually enjoy the years!
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>>537902704
good morning, I hate women
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>>537900440
How much are you taking from blue revolver? I love their system with breaks
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>>537902714
>There's like three games here that meet this description
That we know of.
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>>537902880
>what caused this crazy popularity?
Fan art. Unironically I think this is why it's so popular.
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>>537902714
Nigga he rage baitin'
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>>537902968
>>537902714
Which ones are they? Because I'm about 99% sure that you're thinking of my game but don't realize what's going on
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>>537901870
Valve reduced its revenue cut to 20% for games on Steam that make over $50 million in sales
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>>537902880
Modern indies suck and would implode if you asked for a boss with 4 moves. Not like this game.
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>>537902880
fucking eldin ring didnt have this level of circlejerking behind it
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>>537903109
50 MILLION? Brother could they not have lowered that to a more reasonable number? I like Steam but we really do need a proper competitor.
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>They are still baffled by Silksong
lmao NGMI clueless frustrated chumps. Good luck in life cattle
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>>537903359
to valve, if you don't make 50 million in a year you're a shitsmear under their boot, off to the pits of the algorithm for you
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I HATE VIDEO GAMES
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>Silksong just released but there's one guy playing my game instead of that
yeah... I'm thinking GMI
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>>537903034
This phenomenon isn't exclusive to /agdg/. It's common across all indie dev communities.
I understand that we can enjoy the process of making games without considering financial feasibility, but the time will come when you simply can't afford to do this any more, and if your passion is real, that moment will hurt.
If you genuinely enjoy making games, it is imperative to try to ensure that you can continue to make games in the future. Accounting for effective revenue generation allows for this.
Ask any former indie dev what happens when their games flop and they're forced to get a "real" job. The process dies.
I'm just trying to account for the future. Maybe this is unwise.
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My game will be a huge success on DD. People are going to praise it nonstop and be very excited about it!
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>>537902230
This is how they operate
yesdev = gamedev i like
nodev = gamedev i don't like
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>>537902880
Little white head indie creatures are like a label, you buy one and now you "support indies" "fuck AAA!"
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>>537903602
Yeah but what /agdg/ games do you have in mind? Do you even realize that making successful in-demand games necessitates taking an anti-business approach in the first place? This is a complex field. Nothing is clear cut. Treating games seriously has very little to do with business. Do you think that Team Cherry spent the last 8 years doing business planning?
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a game where you have wholesome interactions with little girls
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>>537903609
my game will exist, i'll have to make it good later
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>>537900440
that's awesome, boss animation is much better than the last time. How many levels you have done so far?
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>>537903853
That's his daughter right?
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>>537903467
the dark souls of indie, normaltroon "gamer" core
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>>537903853
Is that Justin Wong?

>>537904127
No.
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I will have an army of annoying obsessed fans that go to the streams of gay ecelebs and harass them to play my game (my game is unfit for streaming) :devilish:
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>>537904308
>Oh but my game? It's a kingfield-like with fat bats. Yes you can date them
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I was in the thread on /v/ last night, anons argued that Cave Story should be GOTY in 2004. I played it and thought it was a neat little game for free but I wouldn't dare to call it GOTY material. When you think about it, that game is super small and has very little to offer in terms of mechanics or challenges, yet people are still praising it for what it is.
When in doubt, always think that even something like Cave Story can have a cult following and your game surely can do better.
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>>537902230
/thread saved/
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>>537903901
>Later comes and goes without warning
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>>537904515
>your game surely can do better.
I'm not Japanese and didn't spend 5 years making a 200x320 pixel game albeit
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/agdg/ is dominated by a mafia that believes only a select handful of genres are interesting and important and everyone else can go fuck themselves. They believe they are right because they are together with other people like them and they think that gives them power. That's an echo chamber
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>>537903372
Reminder: anyone who complains about Silksong being $20 is ousting themselves as a passionless dev and should be laughed at for being a grubby jew.
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>>537900632
It happens

>>537900721
Thank you very much anon!

>>537902260
Thanks for the feedback! I'll add notes about your suggestion and revisit it later when I have time to polish backgrounds more

>>537902954
I love the break system too. I have thought about asking Danbo about stealing it to this game. It's that good.

>>537904076
Thank you! Only the first stage with Campaign mode which is like shoot 'em up version of super meatboy and then arcade mode what is playable for the next demo day tomorrow. I've been focusing heavily on core features and getting vertical slice as feature rich as possible and focus on the content after I have established a proper baseline for the game.
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>>537904964
How do they "dominate" it?
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>>537888654
In a sane world this women would be the office dick sucker and nobody would have an issue with that.
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>>537905187
Because they enforce the narrative that their overwhelming numbers prove them right and most of the outsiders fall for it which makes it impossible to challenge their regime
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>>537898069
Difference being, he was both rich and famous, guarding his virginity from harlots throwing themselves at him must have taken a will of steel. Guarding your virginity as a noname game developer is not that big of an achievement by comparison.
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>some countries will literally help fund your indie game as a cultural grant thing
>don't live anywhere near one
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>>537905349
Impossible how?
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>>537905714
Come to Finland. We offer you free Kela money if you say the magic word "asylum" on our border
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>>537905714
Just move to Sweden, if you're brown enough they'll even cover your living costs.
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>>537905960
I'm pretty sure Sweden made it much harder to immigrate there now after they became the rape capital of the world over night.
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>>537905714
Those grants have strings attached
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>>537904308
>normal
>troon
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>>537906118
Just wait for London to overtake Stockholm and they'll open up again.
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>>537906118
their definition of rape is catcalling a wxman
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>>537906456
That's Britain and only if you're white, retard.
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>>537905945
I always wanted to go to Finland because I heard you guys are alcoholic introverts which would be perfect for me since I'm the same, and also I like cold weather and sauna, but I am a tanned mediterranean so I'd feel like a nigger among you fair skinned folk.
I guess I'll just visit as a tourist when I make it.
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>>537904515
Yeah all you have to do is release your game in 2004
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I updated the shotgun, now the it shoots 10 bullets when the player is on a normal state but during holy time it shoots 30 bullets and the firerate increases 50%.
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>>537906553
>but I am a tanned mediterranean so I'd feel like a nigger among you fair skinned folk.
This, except I'm a """"white"""" latinx so even worse. Not that it'd matter because I'm pretty sure you'd have to learn finngolian to not be seen as a weirdo there, can't just get away with some decent english.
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>>537906848
They're called pellets
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>>537906848
kill yourself
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>>537906965
they're actually called "gauges"
that's what a 12-gauge shotgun fires
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Someone should invest a few thousand dollars into tracking down and wiping out the inner circle
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>>537907228
I know this is bait but I'll bite. No it's literally not called that and you're a moron regardless if this is bait, retard.
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>>537905714
Most depressing thing about grants is that it's all based around nepotism and woke politics. In Norway, the retards who made Dustborn received more funding weeks after it flopped. Meanwhile, any regular person will get their applications rejected.
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>>537906965
They're called shots that's why it's called a shotgun
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>>537907568
They're called flops and that's what you're making.
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They should fund my "cube in an empty white void" simulator instead.
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how do i git gud
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Sending out suicidal thoughts to all discord "devs"
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>>537907635
I'm making shotgun ammunition?
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>>537906524
i just corrected you i dont care about your delusional schizo babble, if you want to complain about actual SA look at india
but you dont actually care about it, it's called concern trolling btw
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>>537904681
>Later comes and goes without warning
only for you, I am very aware of time, if only your game was as good as your ability to type a catchy one liner
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>>537907867
You're a turd worlder, i'm blocking you.
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>>537907007
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>>537907801
don't send bad vibes just because they're gangstalkers. It's bad for your soul
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>>537908067
they're not even gangstalkers either, they're only like 5 guys at most
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>>537908060
your shitty shitstain game flopped fagface
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>>537903467
I should buy all games that were released today except Shartshong. I won't because I'm broke but I should.
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>>537906848
>>537908060
>>537908254
Dungeon watchers only exists to waste people's time. This is even worse when you consider it's an imitation that wastes the time of people who wasted their time with Vampire survivors with an even worse product. You're truly evil
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>>537907007
>>537907283
>>537907801
samefag
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>>537907967
ok ranghjep
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>>537906848
don't you have an early access slop to finish?
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>>537908468
............POW
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>>537906848
the fov is small I feel claustrophobic watching this
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Weapon for Blood Mongolian. The new Mongol.
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>>537895948
Really? Any good courses to follow? The op links are almost all broken for me.
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>>537909068
It's called a revolver because it has a revolving cylinder.
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make a game that wastes peoples time
make an addictive game
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in 33 years we got from
https://youtu.be/C5cu5h_150Y?t=246
to Silksong. we have truly regressed as a civilization.
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>>537909219
evil 'cordtroon post. Your hex has been deflected
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>>537908254
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>>537909219
Ok, but how?
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>>537909208
The world revolves around guns.
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>Double crab.png
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>>537909068
Is there a meaning behind the wacky appearance?
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>>537909345
Kinda based, NGL.
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>>537909547
TF2.
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shartsong was astrotured by nintendo cultists btw
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All devs of metaphysically evil games will be denied entry at the pearly gates and will boil in a sea of brimstone and excrement for all time. Amen.
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guys hear me out...
>>537886904
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>>537908060
>>537909345
i look like this
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>>537909719
atleast it's finally out so people can stop droning on about it.
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https://voca.ro/137zPdgZWulA

Honestly, this sounds amazing after 3 days of non stop writing melodies.

100% proud of this one.

Chris, I did it.
I BTFO again agdg.
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>>537903359
Epic takes nothing up to 1 mil (outside the same 100 bucks license fee as steam) but setting up anything on it is a fucking chore and barely anyone uses it. I can't even imagine reaching that revenue over there but I believe it's worth diversifying
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>>537910051
Yeah and I said a serious competitor. Epic can't even develop a working games launcher or storefront that actually functionally works.
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>>537909990
>Chris, I did it.
>I BTFO again agdg
early onset dementia symptoms moment
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>>537910261
yeah it ended up a self-BTFO
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Hey aggy,
Here's a sample of 3 story mode backgrounds that I've made so far. I'll have way more eventually, I'm getting the hang of it now. Soon I'll start working on the real story of the game.
Keep at it lads.
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>>537910261
Cris is the gift that keeps on giving, I've taken multiple yearlong vacations from Aggy and every time I come back I find the same Crisposts with zero progress. The man's a time capsule.
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>>537910261
The importance of giving people reality checks instead of coddling them.
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Whoa Koei this could get you canceled! Are gamedevs always this risky?!
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>>537894409
Any more examples of games like this? I'm looking for a game that I can make solo too.
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>>537910469
It doesn't work on cris
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>>537910515
insane how fucking lucky AAA devs are, imagine putting a steam page out that describes your game in such an empty mundane way
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>>537910689
look up idle games like wizard research
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>>537910369
prompt?
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>>537910763
3 examples off the top of my head
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>>537905714
Getting grant funding takes work. Instead of developing your game, you have to fill out paperwork and tick the right propaganda boxes.
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>>537911247
I made them myself!!
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>>537911271
It clearly works
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Can you fucking guys stop shitting on me for using AI voice? There's a financial issue, I literally can't pay people even if I have money, so stop bitching about it.
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the AGP is hitting harder than usual today
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>>537910369
Its good but very bright kid-friendly artstyle
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What website do i use to get donations
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>>537911657
The one who's shitting you is just 3 guys samefagging. There's 71 people here, most are programmers, who don't even give a single shit about AI arts, as long as you implement it right
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>>537911657
use vocaloid or loquendo.

or do gibberish using a wah and chorus filter on LMMS.
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>>537911953
>use vocaloid or loquendo.
>or do gibberish using a wah and chorus filter on LMMS.
This is the same just shittier slightly
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>>537911867
>The one who's shitting you is just 3 guys samefagging
Who are they?
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stop replying to yourself, in no one's replying it means your gimmick is bad, good gimmicks get copied like mine do
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>>537910369
>>537911395
AGP status?
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>>537909068
Prompt
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>21 hours to demo day
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>>537912594
Fucking bitch, I will fuck your throat tonight
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>>537912594
He’s been doing this for so long that I think he’s started to get his dopamine hit from seeing his own replies show up in the thread.
Either that or it’s worth it to reply to himself for hours in the hopes that it baits one actual person into replying.
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This is the twelfth poster you've accused of samefagging this last week
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I wish I had friends to make games with.
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>>537910051
As someone who has released on both, Epic has a much more user friendly backend than Steam does.
Steam's is an absolute nightmare to work with.
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>>537913251
Why not find some people to teamup with?
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>>537913251
Insane how they're red, perhaps, because they're the devil?
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>>537913251
You're an antisocial asshole and you tell every other talented dev to fuck off because he doesn't meet your autistic criteria
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My dream is to make an ultra-violent DMC/NG-style game.
Current animation level: 0
But I am MOTIVATED
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>>537890348
why is she trying to make it look like her right leg was amputated at the knee? trying to appeal to acrotomophiles?
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I haven't had a friend in 10 years I don't even remember what its like
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>"There's always gonna be another big indie game. Maybe it's yours."

In case you've missed it:
https://youtu.be/jKF_okHT18w?si=520COuMqTYtGKQJ-
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>21 hours left
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>>537912984
>>537913113
Who are you talking about?
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>>537912630
agp?
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>>537913251
I wish I had two cute girlfriends to make games with.
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>>537913251
>It's an indie game made of a single AAA programer, animator and designer and musician
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>>537913753
it's going to be alright bundev
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>>537913251
I went to 2 different universities for computer science. Didn't make a single friend.
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>>537913792
You basically just sit in the same room and talk about stuff you're both kind of interested in while occasionally complaining about other events in your life and they kind of show faux support for it but actually don't care that much.
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Remember to not submit your demo as soon as submissions open. A large flood of demos as soon as submissions open makes a bad first impression with players.
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>>537914019
>talk about stuff you're both kind of interested in
That's never happened to me.
Every time I've had friends I feel like I'm just going along with what everyone else wants to do.
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>>537912430
You dont need to know. What you need to know is, you will make it if you focus on making your game
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>>537913962
>/agdg/: AAA studios are full of incompetent losers who don’t deserve their jobs
>also /agdg/: NOOOO YOU CAN’T MAKE INDIE GAMES YOU USED TO WORK ON AAA GAMES YOU HAVE AN UNFAIR ADVANTAGE HOW CAN I COMPETE WITH THIS??
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>>537914019
I want a female friend or male female who rides on the back of my motorcycle and we slit people's throats for being bigot weirdos. I already felt like I lived being hunted one night that's what I meant by cable bridge with yellow lights
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>>537913795
>he's in his comfy pajamas playing silksong right this moment
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>>537914818
Nah he's 100% snorting adderall while working 20 hours a day on Haunted Chocolatier
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>>537914417
>retard doesn't remember indie game the movie now pretends indie was originally meant for AAA faggots
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>>537914668
How old are you that you’re actually getting baited by this? 14? Just ignore it ffs
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>>537914818
how many times you gonna reply to yourself again, im taking bets
my bet is on 5, your usual number
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>>537915017
31
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>>537915107
Official autism diagnosis or no?
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>>537914417
>the schizo who changes his mind on everything every 3 days is not consistent????
wow
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>>537915437
I'm posting on agdg
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>>537909990
This is pretty good.

>>537910469
If I wanted to influence Cris to become a yesdev I could, and it wouldn't require the whole point and laugh routine yall've got going on.

>>537910726
>I crabbed this guy, why isn't he making games that I like
The joke writes itself.
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I raped the inner circle.
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'aper of the inner 'cle is here
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>>537916485
lol
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>>537913962
>>537914417
>>537914970
>they don't know about the new "triple I" category
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rate my game for brackeys game jam
theme was: Risk it for the Biscuit
https://itch.io/jam/brackeys-14/rate/3851140
my personal goal was to see if I could get voice acting in a game and how it works overall
please play my game?
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ragebait that doesnt tell you that reddit knight released at the apex of indie shartformers and got carried by the LE DARK SOULS IS LE BEST GAME EVER youtube shart movement
all those 'dditors are right, dey just beat the odds because of circumstancial parameters beyond their doing (same with among us and covid btw), reddit knight is a less than 50 reviews game in a normal scenario
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>>537916485
reddit's crabs are even worse than this one, eventually the schizo dogshitters here leave to masturbate to illegal shit eventually, redditors fucking hate the idea of not getting the last word in
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>>537916485
They were right though.
Game is mind-numbingly boring and mid.
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>>537916739
Well I think you're being hyperbolic, I do think you're right that the Dark Souls megawave carried a ton of games that otherwise wouldn't have been that successful.
Namely Salt and Sanctuary, Thymesia, Ashen, etc.
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Oh, the schizos are back.
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>>537916739
How do we respond to this without sounding extremely mad? Among us had a 5 players peak for months before the pandemic and lockdown, I guess luck is way more important than people say.
Like seriously this post BTFO us bootlickers so hard.
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Success breeds jealousy.
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>>537917218
You could tell from the bitching about underspace. It's like a temperature gauge at this point.
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>>537915531
I didn’t realize it was cris when I replied, my bad
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>>537917095
filtered
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>>537917623
>Trainwiz's final gift to the thread was giving us an easy way to identify who should be ostracized and killed
Based
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People, it's just game dev.
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>>537916739
Have you ever tried conversing like a normal human being instead of vomiting out a pile of buzzwords onto an already barely coherent post?
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>>537916728
Gave it a try, decently funneh.
Could be sold for moneh with lots more polish.
At least an option to adjust volume and fullscreen toggle.
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>>537915948
>If I wanted to influence Cris to become a yesdev I could
whatever you say anon
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>>537918118
You remember what thread you were In, right?
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I made my demo public 4 days ago on itch and I still can't search it.
I'm getting stressed boys. Will itch daddy allow me to participate in DD ?
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>>537917623
>>537917838
context for these posts: underspace flopped
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>>537918286
True
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>>537918334
Why are they all smoking blunts
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>Schizo can't help but reply to bait
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what happened to bokudev, mokudev, grassfag, fygoon and comical construct dev?
havent seen them post progress in a long while
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How well do spreadsheet games sell? I need ideas for a spreadsheet game because it almost have no art.
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>>537918562
See, he made it easy. And then you know the thread isn't worth posting in at the current time and to come back later.
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>>537918730
Incrementors are one of the top recommended indie solodev genres.
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>>537918502
Those are clearly baseball bats
Guy on the right is smoking a cig
Smh
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>>537890754
v3 is good as it is right now, I'd just like more interviews with agdg devs or other devs, or just otherwise incorporate ideas and names and happenings from the "community" more, I think that would be nice even though I know you already try to do that.
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>>537918910
Looks like the minecraft telescope.
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>>537918091
it's more than game dev, if i'm being honest, some things are bringing up so many bad memories.
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>>537918786
The thread is never worth posting in.
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What’s a game that an artfag codelet could finish in about a year’s time?
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>>537919279
Pong, or maybe Flappy Birds.
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Osur flopped and shitted himself
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>>537919279
Any kind of walking sim
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>>537919432
NNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO YOU CANT SAY THAT
SAVE ME UNDERSPACE.......
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>>537918730
https://www.incrementaldb.com/
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>>537916739
I'm gonna steal this comment and spam it on /v/ now.
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>>537919279
>>537919482
Any other ideas?
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>>537918690
Haven't seen progress get posted in a long time.
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Do immersive syms still sell?
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is he a visionary genius born in the wrong place or a madman?
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Is this bokusimp?
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>>537913251
These guys made 10 million dollars in 30 minutes.
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>>537920379
They're just like me
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>>537920289
No, he's annoyingly longwinded
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>>537920131
Immersive sims have never told all that well. They have a relatively small but dedicated audience.
If you can appeal to that audience then it'll be worth your time.
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>>537913809
i look like this
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>>537920674
I'm pretty sure pic related is dead doe.
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>>537921045
Sadly. I would've bought it day 1.
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We're coming up on Demo Day 64, and you'd like to get something back from all your hard effort.
I will make a generous donation to your demo if you add a screen at the beginning that says "I'm a farty fart man with a big smelly butt that smells like farts". It must be unskippable and stay present and visible for at least 5 seconds.
Note that for any qualifying games I'll be waiting a week to make sure you don't just immediately replace it.
I don't want to list an exact amount, because a game where it really doesn't fit in, or going "the extra mile" (fart noises in your soundtrack, especially in a serious game, things like that) will be rewarded more heavily.
Life handed me some bounty with Bitcoin and GME, so I'm more than happy to "give a little back" ;)

Humiliate yourself for money.

>How do I sign up?
Just add what I said to your game, and post in the thread at some point: "I'm a farty fart man with a big smelly butt that smells like farts" with a link to your game. I have something that will be looking for exactly that phrase.
Add additional notes if you have any such as "I added a fart sound to my music" and how it can be heard for verification.
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>>537920379
each or in total? That's very important, as 3 mln in 8 years is barely surviving in 1st world
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>>537921582
meds
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>>537921118
If nothing else why won't the guy just dump the whole thing online? It's understandable why he can't finish it. I think it's best for something like this to go public in at least some state instead of rotting away on some harddrive and eventually be lost forever.
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>>537921124
I'll do it but you have to make 20% front payment first, then pay in installments of 10% for every day it's present. I'm waiting for your donation.
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>>537921786
I doubt he even can because it's published/funded by 3d Realms.
It wouldn't surprise me if the game was affected by the huge budget cuts they made last year.
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Hollow Knight has amazing visuals.
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>>537918730
You know how Cities Skylines populations are horribly unrealistic? You know, a suburban house has 6 families in it while a 20 storet skyscraper has 12. Also how the timescale is completely fucked and agents will take literal in-game weeks to commute to work. Give me a city simulator with accurate numbers and nothing but spreadsheets, no need for a fancy 3D editable map, and I'll pay for your retirement.
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>>537922268
Please.!
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>>537886904
another nortubel porn just dropped
https://rule34.xxx/index.php?page=post&s=view&id=14687687
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the indie dream isn't dead if you target china
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>>537892152
Demo day is around the corner, the only time people can shitpost about the fanart, and the boogeyman that makes their games suck.

Wait until 3 weeks from now on, there will be no mention of it anywhere, as the nodves return to their "300 games each day, frendslop, ai voicacting, aislop, engine wars, nolife, virgin, eric, e-celeb of the week" shitposting.
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>>537921940
>>537922963
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>>537922087
asking broke hobos and third worlders to donate to you is a bold stategy, let's see if it pays off
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>>537923140
Demo day is the worst thing to have ever happened to /agdg/. Zero (0) good games have been produced as a result of demo day.
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>>537918962
>I'd just like more interviews with agdg devs or other devs
Then the /v/erdict this year is for you.
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>>537923501
I'm waiting for DD69
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>>537923098
My game's lore has the CCP disposed and the KMT take over the mainland again, I don't think the Chineses would like that very much.
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Who wants their game to receive an inner circle review?
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>>537923665
>IM DOING LE CRINGE WESTOID BOOTLICKER PROPAGANDA THEY GONNA BE SOOOOOOOOOO UPSET
lol, niggas who had to deal with jewllywood fear no slop lil blud
theyd probably laugh at you and say hail xi jinping in the reviews if dey ever bought your slop, thats what i saw them do
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>>537923098
Damn. I'm making a word puzzle game that's only in English.
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It’s not fucking fair. I’m such a handsome guy but I’ll never have a fraction of the success Eric Barone has so it doesn’t even matter. Those middle aged women lusting over him on Reddit should be talking about me, damn it.
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Is it a good or bad move to release a public beta demo? It's a limited scope version of my game like any other demo, but I'm still using placeholder art and sound effects for a lot of assets and there might be some bugs
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>>537923840
*Raises paw*
Me! Me! Me!
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fygoon predicted the current predicament btw
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>>537923879
Nigger hands typed this.
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>>537924173
What is thy game little canine?
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>>537923501
that's no problem, by demo day 65 i'll make the first good dd game :p
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>>537923501
Demo Day was fine for like the first 10 or 20 iterations. I remember when I participated, prettysober was streaming for the first or second time, and DD was just a small thing going in the background. The thread didn't really revolve around it.
At some point though a sort of satellite community formed around DD and it completely overtook the thread. You have people spamming about DD for a whole week before it happens, spamming the thread for all the days it's taking place, and then also spamming the thread for a week after it ended. And don't get me started on people who never participate in the thread but submit to DD anyway. Much like E3, the event completely lost its soul and thread itself got damaged in the crossfire.
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>>537924256
so? was just being honest with ya lil blud, dont go full yakubian on me now them chinese netizens are /pol/ tier shitposters as a baseline
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>>537923879
I get you're a retard but my point is, when I obviously know my game is gonna piss off the Chinese in one way or another, I don't think it's a good idea to translate it into chinky speak.
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>>537924676
and im telling you they dont care, they mock westoid propaganda and enjoy doing so
yall can call me names but yall cant call me wrong, curious
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>>537923098
how do i please chinamen, but avert taiwaniggers?
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>>537924532
Ok nigger.
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Imagine being so unpleasant you get banned from a 4chan discord. Too retarded even for retards.
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>>537925238
see this is a textbook trick question, if you make a 'cord it instantly becomes reddit, so there is no such thing as a "4chan discord"
nice try tough
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>>537925406
Found the guy who could make CWC feel repulsion
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>>537925467
bazinga!!! (audience_laugh.mp3)
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>>537925406
Why do you type like this
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>>537925661
i honestly have no idea why i do what i do
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>>537925406
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>>537924482
The fix to DD would be simple: ban resubmissions. You are only allowed to submit the same game to DD a single time, just like NextFest.
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Do you guys ever tell the girls you’re dating that you’re a game dev? How do they react? I’ve been on a few dates with this girl who’s pretty interested in video games but I haven’t told her about my game yet since I’m worried it’ll look like I’m trying too hard to impress her. I’m looking for an opportunity to slip it into a conversation casually like it’s no big deal.
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Flappy Bird but it's about getting and maintaining a penis erect and it would be called Floppy Bird
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>makes a weird face and hops from one foot to the other
>clapping like a retard
>"I make bideogames, I make bideogames"
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>n-NNOOOO YOU CANT HAVE AN AGDG DISCORD
>I NEED TO SPAM LOLI PORNOGRAPHY AND SHITPOST ABOUT ERIC BARONE AND FYGOON NOOOOOO
don't care. in my comfy little safe haven where post quality is really high and people actually talk about video game development and theres nothing you can do to ruin it for me
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>>537926156
I showed my co workers my game and got a very flat reaction. I think when I told them I make games they expected something like CoD.
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>>537924307
my game?
well... uh... I-I uhhh... erm.. uhhh... ehhh... ermm... uhh...
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>>537924482
>post game itt: attention whore
>don't post game itt: "And don't get me started on people who never participate in the thread but submit to DD anyway."
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>>537926030
This so much this
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>ibai_yo_explicando
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>>537926340
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>>537926258
It's funny how we all know EXACTLY who is mad about the discord.
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>>537926030
you know how the wall of shame guy would research and post about which developers left no feedback in 2 or 3 threads
why dont you do something constructive and create a list of debut games and post it in 2 or 3 threads instead of just whining about something totally unfeasible and unnecessary
the point of demon day is to receive free playtesting in exchange for providing free playtesting.
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>>537924482
>And don't get me started on people who never participate in the thread but submit to DD anyway
Just because I don't post my game in the threads doesn't mean I don't participate in the threads.
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time to read an SDL2 book and a OpenGL 2.1 book.
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>>537923339
I hear you bro
https://files.catbox.moe/yhtsm4.png
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>>537926405
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NYqwLaW4rRU

90% of those female gamedevs were born male, what can we learn from this?
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It's crazy how there are people who make their life's mission to crab.
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>>537926841
*100%
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>>537926156
Too soon anon... Too soon...
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>>537926856
What else are they supposed to do? It's not like they have a game.
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>>537926659
cris the enginedev arc is going too far
come back to AI
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>>537926156
In my case the reactions were ambivalent to negative, sample size around 12 before I learned to stfu.
They were mostly in their late 20s or even early 30s and like a third of them had phds (university town) so they probably see gamedevs as below them professionally.
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https://youtu.be/IdpD5QIVOKQ?si=XQd4gBGNsaTLunb4
So I was watching this presentation of JAI by John Blow and I was thinking "damn this guy is kinda smart actually, all those neats features, made for his game", it just makes me appreciate just how much work goes into a game like this...

And then I remembered that eventually, the fucking subhuman disgusting retard on /v/ or on Steam who can barely comprehend the English language will get his hands on the game and shit on it for not handholding him through everything and god... I fucking hate gamers so much. Literally the most subhuman creatures out there.

The shitty state of the industry is in today? They fucking DESERVE it. ALL OF IT. For being such retarded subhumans.
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>>537926841
Men are just that much better.
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>>537926841
>girl games
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The guy with cancer.
I will remember him
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>>537927238
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>>537927179
>The shitty state of the industry is in today?
That only affects gamedevs. Gamers have never had more and better choice in games for the least money.
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>noooooo you MUST tell me that my kenyan helicopter abomination is le heckin' cute and valid or else you're a nodev CRAB!
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>>537926841
From all the trailers I've watched in that indie showcase, 100% of "cozy" games were being made by females and they all sucked in various ways. No offense.
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Proggy is almost done.
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>women make up 50% of gamers
Yeah, in Candy Crush, The Sims, and Animal Crossing. These people need to stop lying to themselves and everybody else.
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>>537927179
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>>537927452
that's because most other games suck
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>>537927479
Wasn't he unable to get through hollow knight
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>>537927587
Couldn't get past the tutorial level in Cuphead, huh?
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>>537927398
literally every dev in that video is a troon except maybe the last one, it's baffling
rusted moss is shockin because the dev was an inspiration for me few years ago in the gamemaker community, then he released a female protagonist game and trooned out, fucking sad shit
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>>537927479
It is a tragedy that the best and brightest minds of the world are all being wasted on trivialities. Nobody with actual talent and ability should be wasted on something as worthless as video games.
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>>537927665
Gimme the source before you go on vacation.
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>>537927334
>Gamers have never had more and better choice in games for the least money.
The thing is, the average gamer is SO SUBHUMAN they don't even know. Literally. They're incapable of checking the Steam or GOG storefront on their own for cool indie or old games on sale. They're only capable of consuming games through a sort of "bandwagon consensus". Can you even picture how low of an IQ such a creature has? And then it goes onto the Internet to complain how "there are no games to play!"
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>>537927665
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>>537927415
>>537927665
KILL YOURSELF disgusting pedophile kannadev
>>537927732
no one wants to work for evil big tech, try making cool non evil companies instead of facebook, palantir and spacex lmfao
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>>537892412
>a horror game about mining
>you have to dig while hiding from the spooky monster in the tunnels

Stealing this trillion dollar franchise idea.
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video games aren't worthless
they help people feel empowered and connect with others in a world where that is increasingly difficult
theres nothing wrong with singing a lullaby to a dying world
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>>537927415
giwtwm
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>>537927665
>>537927415
kanna...
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Is there a way to mute an error in godot, this stupid debugger thinks it knows better than me if my function works as expect or shits itself
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>>537927895
>theres nothing wrong with singing a lullaby to a dying world
There is everything wrong when you could legitimately be saving the world instead
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>>537927680
i haven't played cuphead, difficult games aren't appealing
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>>537928019
oh good idea brother let me just push the waves back into the deep sea with the palms of my hands
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>>537928070
That's why you're not a real gamer. Enjoy your shartdew.
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>>537927826
To add to this, go ahead and tell the average gamer complaining about the games industry
>You have more and better choice in games for the least money nowadays!
See how well that works out for you.
And I'm not just talking about /v/ here, it's everywhere. Reddit, YouTube, Twitter, Discord, Facebook - wherever the fuck. The response will be exactly the same: incessant seething and calling you names like an ape.
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>>537926841
men are nodevs, women are yesdevs, except for that one female nodev, but we don't talk about her
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>>537928198
nta but if you're a "real gamer" you don't belong here. we don't play games here for the same reasons gamer plebes do.
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>>537928327
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>>537928419
You play them for the "art". Sure thing, nodev.
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>>537927826
If a game isn't good enough to get a bandwagon behind it, then it's not good enough for my time. I only have enough time to play good games. Simple as.
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>>537928313
gamers are like women on dating apps.
spoiled for choice, but always complaining and always demanding more while offering less.
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>>537928530
no, I play games to steal ideas.
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>>537926841
>open video
>female voice
>close video
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>>537928428
>i'm a man and a nodev/whodev how do i respond without seeming mad?

>>537928530
yes
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>>537926373
>post game itt: attention whore
Said literally no one fucking ever except disingenuous shitposters.
The whole point of the thread is posting progress of your game.
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leave silksong to me
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>>537926841
That it usually takes a man to be the best woman
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>>537929016
wishlisted
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>>537928545
Amogus was more or less he same game in 2020 that it was in 2015, only some streamers playing it during covid made it sucessful. Ergo a bandwagon game is not necessarily a good game, just the right game at the right time
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>>537929154
No, a bandwagon game is always a good game. The subtlety is that good depends on more than the game itself but also its surrounding world. Amongus was a bad game but the change in the world temporarily turned it into a good game, then the world changed again and it became bad again.
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>>537928001
If you have to ask then you probably don't know better than the debugger, you should look into whatever it's complaining about.
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I want to get into OpenGL and SDL but I am afraid I am too old now to start switching workflows and try new things.

It's over.
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537929323
not even worth a you, low quality bait
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big studios have already covered all but the most obscure game niches
which niche does your game appeal to?
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>>537929323
nigga just admit you wrong, he cooked you
you got cooked, move on, this typa shit is bad for your blood pressure my uncle died from reading emails
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>>537929646
you're replying to
>just make good games people want to play
>just world
>good games can't flop
master baiter
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>>537929440
it's over cris.... we're too old....
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>>537927179
isn't that the guy who made that game like Mario but for people who like getting drunk or high, and it didn't have a point at all
but your little dude could go "WHOOOOOP" in reverse lmao
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>>537927732
I already wasted a prison sentence's worth giving a shit about getting good grades and a degree.
I care not for this world.
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>>537929835
My game will be a good game people want to play, and look at. The inner circle is watching me, so I'm gonna do my best
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If the world would just give my game a chance...
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>>537929835
I never say "*just* make good games" because I recognize that the "just" can make it sound like making good games is easy. Yes, making good games is incredibly hard. The point is to focus on that task and not get distracted by other tasks that don't have anything to do with it. Making the game good is the only thing you should be worrying about. If you succeed in making the game good, success is guaranteed.
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>the best soundtrack is one you don't even notice
true or false?
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No matter how rude or abrasive you people act, I still love you all and this general and I’ll remember to come back here to thank you guys once I make it.
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>>537929335
amazing post smartass
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>>537930524
completely false, a song would have to be bad to be unnoticable
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>>537930524
Nah. The best soundtrack is one that lines up perfectly with what you're doing and increases the emotions of the moment. A soundtrack you don't notice is likely really generic and boring.
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>>537930524
false
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>>537930459
who's the arbiter of whether a game is good or not?
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>>537930845
The market. If a game sells a lot, it is good. If a game doesn't sell, it is bad.
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>>537930845
me and (You)

>>537930292
good games will always be given a chance
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>>537930845
Me
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i give up i give up i give up i give up
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>>537930617
Is this...?
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>>537930676
>>537930686
>typical musicfag brain fail
if you notice the soundtrack, you're being taken out of the experience. and you don't have to notice it to be affected by it.
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>>537931006
get ahold of yourself, you can't let the crabs win
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>>537930524
Depends if your definition of “good” is songs you can actually name and want to listen to vs. songs that sound like they’re made for a “relaxing video game ambience” YouTube playlist. I prefer the former.
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>>537931213
i am crabbed beyond repair, by myself no less
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>>537931179
It's that thought process why game and movie music doesn't have melody anymore. It's all just industrial noise and clicking sounds.
Some of the best soundtracks of all time are very in your face.
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>>537930459
I say "just" because it's very simple thing, but simple does not mean easy. When I say "just like make good games that people want to play", what I'm really saying is that you should stop worrying about "marketing" BS (really it's just promotional BS) and just focus on making your game better, which means adding more appeal, extending your playtime, and expanding your audience by improving accessibility.

>>537930845
The Steam algorithm.
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>>537931057
Sadly no. I’m just a dev.
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>>537930979
>argumentum ad populum
>unfalsifiable
feeble reasoning.
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>The Steam algorithm.
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>>537931374
nobody was thinking about the du-dun music in jaws when they were watching jaws the first time. of course you can dissect the game when you're being analytical about it but if in some pivotal part of the game you're thinking
>wow, that's a great soundtrack. I should find it on youtube
then the soundtrack has undermined the game
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Signs your game is GMI:
>most of /agdg/ hates it

Signs your game is NGMI:
>I hate it
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>>537929835
very similar views to the eceleb schizo from shartdew tranney general btw
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>>537932256
I don't get it where do I sign?????
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Peer-level communication can only effectively occur between individuals with less than around a 30-IQ gap. Sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. If you don't have the IQ to understand high-school level statistics, then recommendation algorithms might as well be a slot machine to you.
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>>537932678
Uh? Wha?
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>>537932678
Any recommendation algorithms that can be understood can also be abused. The only trick they have to prevent this is to make it random to some degree because randomness can't be abused.
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>redditfrog posters
Is there any doubt this thread has been invaded by tourists?

#Remigration
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>>537933069
>recommendation algorithms that can be understood
I meant predicted instead of understood
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Most of you don't even understand what a game is

Most of you have an understanding of games that only goes as far as the understanding of a toddler that has only ever played shooterball games on a gaystation
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I honestly have finished now the following training this year.

>Coding
>2D HD art
>3D anime HD animation
>3D Pixel art
>Anime AI art
>Music composition
>Melody writing
>Music production
>Writing
>World history, world religions, mythology, anime, literature, philosophy, art history
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don't reply to it
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lol
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>>537913260
Steam isnt even real.
You have to get into the secret purposefully hidden "Real Steam" otherwise you're just throwing away 1/3rd of your labor for no reason whatsoever besides being a cuckold cultist fanboy.

And to get into Real Steam you need to sell $600,000 worth. It's gatekept. Valve literally has a monopoly on PC gaming and then decides to only ever help the most popular games and ONLY AFTER THEY GET POPULAR.

It's smart business but pure evil capitalism. Like all billionaires, they're predators who prey on you and your children, privatize all gaind and socialize all losses. Never let go, and always tighten grip. Insane levels of propaganda to the most propagandized nation in the history of the world.

Gabe Newell & Donald Trump are peak American. Also slightly unrelated but always worth mentioning the fact: Bill Gates is a Pedophile. His wife filed for divorce IMMEDIATELY the moment Epstein got exposed nationally. The moment she found out, after decades, she filed for divorce. Bc she knew Bill Gates fucked kids. She always knew but pretended looking the other way. Once it became worldwide news she woke up and INSTANTLY filed. The paperwork hit 2 months after Epstein became known to the world. For a billionaire, that means she got a lawyer THAT DAY and said "We need to do this as fast as possible. He knows I know he fucked kids now. So he knows I'm already talking to you. We have to be fast" 100000% guaranteed this was the convo. Same day Bill called his divorce lawyer. Without her saying a single word, the moment he saw Epstein on TV he called his lawyer, "She knows now. Protect my assets ASAP!" 100000% guaranteed. No doubts. Bill Gates is a Pedophile.
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rape cris
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>>537934059
It seems all billionaires as pedophiles. How much do we wanna bet even Gaben is on that list?
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>>537934296
Is Gabe Newell on the Epstein list? Is that why he is so scared of Mastercard and Visa coming after him for loli rape games? How much do you wanna bet he downloads every one uploaded, jerks off to it, then out of guilt bans the lolidev from steam?
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ah em um ahhh ehhhhh...ummm...i don't really enjoy gamedev ><
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>>537900440
Prompt?
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>>537934059
Can you remind what "real steam" was? I remember getting redpilled on that from Zuckowski but I forgot what the threshold actually is
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>>537934451
lol is that why he caved on porn games? Kindof weird to see a billionaire get his balls cut off by a credit card company crying about christian morals.
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>Go for a haircut
>Shampoo girl waves to me when I walk in
>When she washed my hair she says I look like a celebrity
>"Yeah that's my nickname for you haha, I dont have nicknames for everyone you know!"
>MFW engaged so I can't flirt back
Anyways, time to dev
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>>537934296
It's a "mutually assured destruction" trick that elites use to try to keep the peace between them. If everybody has blackmail material on each other, everybody can agree to play nice with each other. And they won't let anyone new into the club unless they're willing to share blackmail material.
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>the pizza is here
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nyah
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This thread is shit. /v/ is shit. Where else can I get some dopamine to finally quit this place?
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>>537934557
The threshold is $600k. Real Steam is Steam. Everyone not in Real Steam just uploads their software to steam, gets 0 exposure, and any sales they get are bc of their own advertising so theyre literally just retards giving Valve 30% of their hard labor for no reason. Real Steam is Valve acknowledging your game exists so it gives you exposure at a 30% cut, but it sometimes is worth it because Steam (when it's real) has a lot of users on it.

Basically Steam's popularity is grossly exaggerated. The number of users buying games is actually abysmally small. However if you get on Real Steam you get those users. If you arent in Real Steam you get nothing.

The irony is you need to sell $600,000 worth, so you instantly lose 180k just to get on Real Steam, with a chance to lose <=179k and get NOTHING from it.

That's 180k you'd have gotten if you just sold on your own website and linked it there. Itch. EGS. Humble. Etc. 180k lost just to get a chance.

Then once you're on real steam your game only sells when it's 50% to 80% off. Which means Valve takes 65% to 86% from you for every unit sale.

People argue it's worth it bc despite Valve taking 86% when you use Real Steam, the numbers are mostly from people who dont actually want to buy your game. They're addicts, collectors, bored losers, and avid consumers. So money comes in, about $20,000 per sale on average, which is very little but it's "free money".

The problem with that logic is that if your game is actually good and just needs marketing, you're losing future customers who would buy for 100% off steam bc they want your game. But you discount it 86% for them to also get more users. It probably does end up being more profitable short term or if your game is mid it's probably an amazing deal.

The biggest issue for indies is your game has to have a high quality standard to even get in Real Steam. You will be filtered out of Real Steam long before 600k sales if your game isnt competitive with AAA games.
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>>537932256
>Signs your game is NGMI:
>>I hate it
One hurdle I've run into is that I genuinely hate the people I'd be making the game for. As in, I'm profoundly disgusted by them.
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being one of the only female devs here is not easy bros...
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>>537934704
>Woman is into me bigtime
>I like her too
>I am so lonely I am posting this blog to 4chan
>But she is engaged so I cant even flirt!
You know even married people can flirt. If it's innocent it's fine. Engaged though? She isnt even married. Engaged means nothing. But also she can still flirt innocently that's fine. Why dont you flirt back? Makes no sense. Oh wait you dont flirt back bc even if she was single you wouldnt flirt back. Also she might say this to everyone to get better tips, so maybe it is scary too.
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>>537934839
I’m going to make a pizza tonight
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>>537935705
They didn't invite you to the secret female-only discord?
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>>537933069
>>537933221
All recommendation algorithms also build in randomness, but randomness does not mean unpredictable. There is variance, but it is highly predictable variance in the long term. Variance decreases as sample size increases.

Besides, Steam can't be "abused" unless you're willing to throw away a lot of money, since the primarily metric Steam uses to determine visibility is revenue, and in order to have revenue, you must give Gabe his 30%. Theoretically, if you buy $1m worth of copies for your own game, you can buy a front page slot. That slot will run you $300k not including income tax.
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>>537935447
This seems to check out with my experience.
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how do i find a publisher
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>>537933435
cool, now post game
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>>537935705
>G.I.R.L.
>GUY
>IRL
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Would a CRPG still be challenging to make if you removed all the combat, stats, and inventory management? Basically a walking simulator that looks like a CRPG.
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I don't give a shit about people playing games on consoles
I don't give a shit about people playing games in other languages
I don't give a shit about people having accesibility issues

You're playing my game like I've played every single other game in existence. There's only one way to experience a game - on a computer, in english
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>>537927732
>admits he has no talent or ability
>expects others to take his opinion seriously
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>>537934839
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>>537935447
the bottom line is if you got a PC game and it's not on steam, its not going to sell.
If even AAA studios have to pay their toll on steam, the average indie dev doesnt have a choice.
and for reference, microsoft, sony and nintendo all take 30% unless you got an exclusive deal.
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I playtested my game after many changes and had fun
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>>537936587
But you care enough to make this post, sister. Sounds like they’re taking up a lot of space in your head.
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>>537936727
>just be mute bro
nah, I will share my opinions with my internet buddies and there's nothing you can do about it
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Holy shit fucking innovate, why Z, Some keyboards in europe have z and y switched.
Why not space, why not something else. Zero fucking innovation in this slopdev game. Indie is dead.
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>>537934704
I get this too. Except people tell me I look like a young Sylvester Stallone so I'm pretty sure it's not flirting.
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>>537936837
The dev team just became billionaires. Why the hell should they innovate?
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>>537936837
you're right, left shift for jump is the correct way
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>>537936823
I’m not saying you can’t express your self, sister. I’m just saying you should be more honest with yourself.
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>>537936587
>severe low-functioning autism
>zero empathy
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>>537936180
the only difference between cris and some yesdevs is that cris makes more games, and he makes them faster
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>>537936972
BAZED ALERT
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>>537936837
bro your controller?
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>>537936178
>Publisher
>Con Man
>Mafia Legbreaker
>Capitalist
>Boss
Why would you want any of this to be part of you, when you're literally served a golden egg on a platter. Gamedev is one of the only things where you can be 100% independent as a small business, dealing with almost no one, cashing in pure profit with little to no costs, totally free from anyone's tampering or greed outside of Valve/Google/Apple/Sony at least...

Yet 90% of gamedevs seem desperate to find a parasite / publisher who wants to tale 70% for nothing. Valve already robs you but you want an even worse robber too? Why are gamedevs so mentally ill?
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>>537936837
Why should they care, all the retards are throwing money at them.
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>>537926156
>>537926330
>>537927141
You guys do realize that none of you would have this problem if you weren't broke right?
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>muh controller
Why not innovate? Why not make it feel good on keyboard and controller. NOOO I MUST DEFEND THE STATUS QUO
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>>537936837
>innovation is when you bind jump to spade bar
Have you ever played a video game before
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>>537936309
>if you remove all the gameplay is a game still hard to make?
Seeing as how 90% of gamedev is in content (Art & Level Design) this sounds like pure retardation.
>Remove the easier things that give the highest return of value
>Keep the hard parts but in a way that makes them become something no one wants
Why tho?
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>>537937089
trvke
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>>537937203
>all 2d games have z and x as keybinds so it needs to never change
Stop being weird, many 2d games have mouse attack and normal WASD movements.
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>use japanese voice over for everything even if the game is in English
Would this be cringe? It's not an anime game.
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>>537937352
idk not my fault you speak some third world language instead of English
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>>537937008
cris can't focus on one thing and is like that meme with a guy starting new buildings without finishing previous, but in cris example dude stops in middle of laying foundation
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>>537937160
>anon believes the bullshit manosphere grifters are serving him
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When I played HK i was like
>Jump on Z, wtf retard shit is it
Over time they give you more buttons and make keyboard kinda like those old fighting controllers.
It's actually good design (in HK idk about Silksong)
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>>537936665
>the bottom line is if you got a PC game and it's not on steam, its not going to sell.
This is verifiably false.

Please refrain from being so retarded that you repeat steam propaganda memes from r/gamedev on agdg.

>If even AAA studios have to pay their toll on steam
They dont need to. They just want to. For them it's a billion dollar analysis where they can fire 8000 employees and only lose a little % or even profit bc those employees are more expensive than 30% due to their salaries, medical care, sick leave, maternity leave, etc. Plus even at a loss it can be seen as desirable bc it's
>oh we pay 10% but dont have to deal with people? Automated this away and keep the best 100 of the 10k were firing for this new thing that will make up for it!
>oh we pay 3% more but our stock will go up bc this is seen as smart among a bunch of larping retards in business suits? Caching!!!
>Xbox Playstation Switch take 30%.
They own the hardware. That is completely different than Windows, Linux, Mac, and Mobile. Imagine being this retarded that you dont even know the standard is now 10%-15% and Steam is the holdout.
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It’s hard to balance wanting to make my female characters historically accurate and wanting to make them physically attractive to maximize appeal
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>>537937907
sigh... are you making tranime?
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>>537938063
No
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>>537938106
do you want to?
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>sigh...
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>>537935447
>Then once you're on real steam your game only sells when it's 50% to 80% off. Which means Valve takes 65% to 86% from you for every unit sale.
Valve's cut is different when you put a game on sale??
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>>537916485
Now we couldn't make a screenshot like this because posting your game on reddit will result in 0 comments and an automod removal.
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>>537937578
if your charisma maxes out at Bill Gates tier then it was already over for you
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>>537938487
retard
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>>537938652
"charisma" = how pretty your face is and how tall you are
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>>537938829
(you) = gay loser faggot
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>>537938829
plenty of ugly short people are currently married
what's your excuse?
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Writing a BVH for my own physics engine because I hate myself apparently but not as much as I hate PhysX
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>>537938892
>how attractive you are doesn't affect how people perceive your personality
retard
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>>537939151
you're using absolutist manimalist arguments
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>>537939151
>charisma = how attractive you are
it's understandable why an ugly retard with no charisma would think this but you are in fact wrong
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just like make a fun game
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>you're using absolutist manimalist arguments
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>>537937578
>created an uncomfortable workplace environment
>Politely asks "do you want to have dinner with me"

wow such a toxic workplace
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>>537937890
>This is verifiably false.
by what metric? even silksong, an indie game that broke steam for a few hours, decided to still release on steam and take the cut
>They dont need to. They just want to.
yes, the AAA companies who care about nothing but profit and number go up dont care about losing millions of dollars on a shared cut
I have no idea what you're even babbling about in the next few lines
>They own the hardware. That is completely different than Windows, Linux, Mac, and Mobile.
you are selling on their storefront, that is the same. if anything the avenue of choice is in your favor on PC because platform does not dictate your storefront. you can go to Epic or windows store if you want the 15% cut with 0 sales
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I'm not going to be remembered
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I will live on forever through my games.
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>>537938652
I was replying to >>537937160
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>>537938812
what? I'm a hobbyist. I've never sold a game on steam before. I heard they take a 30% cut and I naturally assumed that when you put you game on a sale steam will continue to take 30% of the new number.
so you're telling me they actually continue to take 30% of the official price and you actually lose even more than the percentage on the sale pricetag would imply? that's insane. I know putting your game on sale is basically mandatory so the practical percentage valve take out of everybody's business is well above 30%? what the fuck.
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>>537940663
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>>537940665
You are wasting time and energy reading and replying to an insincere schizophrenic nodev namefag troll, retard. Just like make game.
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CAAAANNNN IIIII JUUUSSSSSTTTT SAAAAYYYY IIIIIITTTTTTTTTTT?
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>>537940927
ok so you were contradicting yourself.
>none of you would have this problem if you weren't broke
clearly people who aren't broke also have that problem.
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I am seriously ambivalent towards this jobby.
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>>537886904
BUILT
FOR
BLACK
FUTAS
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>>537941320
this meme was never funny
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>>537941439
Behave yourself anon, it's Christian site.
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>>537941250
Bill Gates being an unlovable demon sperg around women doesn't change the fact that women are attracted to money anon
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>>537939151
i am the most annoying person alive, literally the only reason i can count the people who hate me on one hand is because i'm a woman, if i was a man i'd probably develop social anxiety from being btfo so hard
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>>537941491
Do I look like I'm joking?
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>>537941662
>women are attracted to money
a minority of women are attracted to money. the same way prostitutes are.
where you're making a cognitive error is you see rich guys with attractive women and your conclusion is that women in general are attracted to rich guys, when the only thing you can conclude is that there are more gold diggers than there are rich guys. it could be literally 2% of women who are attracted to money and you'd still be seeing rich guys with attractive women.
the error bill gates was making is he was choosing the women instead of letting the gold diggers subgroup choose him.
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What are some dead simple arcade games that I could clone within the few hours between now and demo day? Besides Pong of course.
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>>537942923
leave forever
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>>537942923
Flappy Bird. Breakout. Space Invaders.
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>>537936178
Publishers are hacks you shouldn't be thinking about getting one.
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>>537942923
just make pong, whatever you do, if you want to make it to demo day, just make pong i'm so serious, i'm making pong, you can't even begin to comprehend how desperate i am to get something working, if you asked me a year ago, i would have never consider making pong, but guess what i'm making now

>>537943008
don't listen to this guy, yes there are devs here more capable than us, but you'd be suprised to find out how many of them are going to be total noshows on demo day as far as submitting a game goes, so don't let yourself be crabbed by them

>>537943173
these are good ideas too
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>>537943839
>>537943839
>>537943839
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>>537898748
>Underspace flopped
Were elevator and small planets fixed?
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>>537941491
STEVEN
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>>537896806
>What do you normally do? Even if you don't feel into doing what you need, you have to do something.
I've gotten weirdly absorbed in reading lately. Like I put 100 pages a day into a book. I used to have no attention span for reading but I deleted reddit, facebook/instagram, and blocked a bunch of sites that I waste a lot of time on. Reading seems to be the only thing I can focus on anymore. I barely even watched TV this week.

I did manage to get some work done today though
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>>537942509
>the error bill gates was making is he was choosing the women
big brain. never pursue women as the ones who want you don't need to be pursued and the ones who don't want you cannot be convinced. or as some pua guy once coined it, you cannot negotiate desire.
all bill gates had to do was put himself in situations where women would be around and NOT at their job. admittedly that's going to be difficult for a married celebrity trying to not get caught. so he got desperate and reckless at work.
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shitshartsong was right to prais silkflop at 20 dollars

all the twitter tranny indie devs complaining can suck my dick

welcome to the market MORONS
if you want to compete build a better product, lower your price, or hang yourself



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