Throwback Edition (This is the oldest deadlock image I have saved)>Latest patch:https://forums.playdeadlock.com/threads/09-04-2025-update.80693/>Steam Page:https://store.steampowered.com/app/1422450/>Where to leave feedback and report bugs:https://forums.playdeadlock.com/>How do I git in?Post your Steam profile and ask. You need to accept a friend request to be invited, so don't be autistic.>How do I git gud?Do the tutorial, get a feel for each hero in sandbox mode, explore public item builds, watch replays. Playing a Hero for the first time will put you into a lower rank game*, so don't worry about it too much.Additional Resources:>Unofficial Wikihttps://deadlock.wiki>New Player Guidehttps://docs.google.com/document/d/1lMBE7Nli_sVJ42d-kPHjF3MBaXZdIM46gNJQC_fMGMU/edit>Advanced Movement Guidehttps://www.dlmovement.wiki/>Unofficial Stat Trackerhttps://statlocker.gg/https://tracklock.gg/>Unofficial Voiceline Viewerhttps://deadlock.vlviewer.com/Threadlocked: >>537899334
>Girls getting buffed>Guys getting fuckedThat's equality.
Imagine the hate sex
The black wοman of Valve unοriginality.These are TWΟ different characters.
rend causing you to float midair was a funny change, i like that
victorbros, how we seething
Why are so many retards whining about Doorman's bells when they arent any better than the dozen other spammable grenade abilities that do just as much damage.Doorman can't even carry a game on his own like those other heroes either. He's already hard to play with a low winrate, nerfing his bells will just make him worthless.
>>537971309Isn't that change to Hotel Guest a buff? Now you can't exit early
>>537971382AI generated, but I'd play the robot with the bowtie, he looks based.
I swear to god, you guys better stop digging into Mina.If she got nerfed or spirit burn got changed, it's all you faggots' fault.
This is the power of a 41 second cooldown ultimate and according to /dlg/ coomer retards is not broken or overtunedat all and is impossible to be used to backdoor a Patron. Ignore the webm.
>>537971451its based
>>537971525>minute 4you do know the patron doubles in HP as the game progresses?
>>537971451Yes, as I said, girls get buffed, guys get fucked.
>>537971525>four minutes into the gameoh no
>>537971525autistic or just retarded? when was the last game you had that went to 54k souls
When are they releasing the rabbi hero
Mina is not a character that needs buffs to her most basic, braindead tool. She unironically needs a redesign especially when you compare her to other M1 heroes. Her kit just has very little going for her>M1 is basically a different flavor of Infernus' but ultimately worse because it relies on burst. Mirage has something kind of similar but more interesting/well designed>Her close range ability severely lacks any kind of synergy besides being able to keep her healthy in laning phase. Counter-intuitive to her lack of health>Ult tickles, it can be useful sometimes>Escape is the only kind of interesting part of her kit and is fine as isSeriously. Her slash and love bites are just not interesting. Love bites needs to be like an enemy debuff/mina buff thing. Like maybe she gains lifesteal vs any character who is under love bites. Every time an enemy is affected by love bites it reduces the cooldown of all of her abilities by like 2 seconds or something. If an enemy dies while under love bites she receives a heal. idk, something that is more interesting than "what if shoot give burst damage too????"
Behold... the overpowered backdoor hero... hidden in plain sight underneath a 40% winrate...
>>537971486She just got buffed, she'll be fineWinrate talks louder to icefraud than people on 4chinz
>>537971632I really like her, and I'm glad her winrate is low so retards get off her and I get to play the cute vampire. You're shit at the game and your opinion sucks.
>>537971604Most of the items don't even buff her ultimate so with 30k souls you would achieve the same effect and with 1 trooper by your side the Patron would die in less time and easily end a game
Can I just be a little retard and spam spirit snares now and win?
>>537971632I think her kit is the most fun to play. Except the ult, fucking god it makes me want to rip my scalp off sometimes
when this mina hits 82k souls youre gonna see some serious shit
>>537971797pls mo and krill but keep mo his normal self so its the stereotypical loli riding big guy
>>537971723>didn't fire upon it to gain EE stacks first and then ultimatedeceitful faggot and nothing new
>>537971632giving the glass cannon a risky finisher move is fine, she's not vindicta
>>537971927have you shot an objective with vindicta's ult since the spirit changes?
>>537971825kek
>>537971309Billy got buffed, bigly
>>537971525DELETE THIS NOW
>>537971915Firing on it with what? The gun doesn't give EE stacks.You can at most gain three EE stacks with cold front, rake and proccing bites, but you can't even tank the walker for that long without greens
Noticing a trend of Victor being the new pick for whining losers. Maybe that'll change with the nerfs.
>>537971882>>537971797Do this Anon's idea but make it regular Krill riding a little Loli Mo that can barely support Krill's weight
>>537971525I tried it 47 minutes into the game, it took a while but I did it, I backdoored
>>537972046>10 extra base healthOP
>>537972121Her passive triggers Spirit Burn, which then stacks EEThis fucking general is full of wood tier niggers at this hour.
all of the new heroes are fine, but we need even more new heroes so they stop being in every fucking gamerelease him yoshi, I know he's done
https://poal.me/euyowiIts time to settle this once and for all
>>537972168yeah actually do this
>>537972202Only if you deal 500 spirit damage first (against a resistant target). You won't be able to tank the walker for that long.
MIIINA HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>pick infernus>lose
>>537971309>Weapon falloff startBro, what? I don't even think he can fucking hit people from that far away. Unless that's what they mean.
>>537971339makes going after people above you or in the air feel a lot better, also allows for mid-air juking. good change. >>537971384just shitters. doorman is nothing compared to pre nerf geist lane rape.
>>537972324RISE UP AND TAKE WHAT YOU DESERVE
>>537972324patron laughing his ass off at mina
>>537972320You can easily tank the walker by simply triggering the slam and flying in the air with improved stamina. You won't even get hit when using ultimate. It's like you fucking retards are in denial about how good she is and want to be spoonfed information.
>>537972327hehehe... you see dat shit?
>>537972274She's 100% black.
Victor hidden backdoor OP?!
https://poal.me/vwcbn3NOW WE REALLY SETTLE THIS
>start using good builds>go on a 5 game winstreakI'm dreading the forced 50 coming my way
>>537972324>>537972386RISE UP AND TAKE WHAT YOU DESEEEEEEEEEEERRRRRVEEEEEEEEEWhy is the female Patron like this?
>>537972482Why would it 'work'? She doesnt eat food
>>537972425>how good she isyou will never see a single match where a Mina pulls this off. Unironically never.Because it's utter dogshit. EE is garbage on her in general and is a 6400 do-nothingIf your team can support a 40k soul Mina doing nothing, your team doesn't need to backdoor anything.
>>537972351his weapon falloff was basically his max range so he was doing nearly full damage (only like a 20% penalty) at the edge of his range.
Had a Victor man up and Aura of Suffering in Seven's face as Storm Cloud was goingVictor fucking won
Ivy does no damage
>>537972524Because she's fucking coolI miss when both patrons were like that>HHHMMMMMMMNNNNN..... IMPRESSIVE, BEBOP...........
>>537972524She's voiced by Debra Wilson lol
>>537972459wtf did Yoshi mean by this shit? There's literally no counterplay
>>537972531She doesn't need to have sex either but I'm sure you're gonna say she has a working vagina
>>537972459Don't know if ironic, retarded or deceitful.
>>537971382rectangular icons i miss them
>>537972591and that's a bad thing
My favorite thing about Doorman is getting rid of ulting Wardens
>>537972459VictorGODS keep winning
>>537972184>47 minute match In a game that far gone there would 100% be a trooper or two in the pit. There are several games where a Mina just rats the Patron in seconds and no one can zipline back fast enough to prevent it and this is in 30 minute games. Just because /dlg/ shitters can't do it doesn't mean it doesn't happen.
How do I itemize Ivy? Do I just become a tesla bullet debuff + heroic aura buff bot?
>>537972886>leaving troopers in the pitInitiatechads...
>>537972896retvrn to healbot ivy
>>537972886>you're a shitter if you're NOT in a lobby where no one reacts to a pushed in wave in timelmao, the mental gymnastics.
What's the item you buy to cuck Bebop in lane again?
>>537972886>playing in matches where waves aren't pushed after patron is dropped>not shitter tierenlightening. truly the eternus level players of /dlg/
What did she min by this
>>537972886Based eternus 6 minachad
>>537971309Increasing the cooldown of Victor's aura just makes it feel more clunky and less responsive, what a shitty idea for a nerf. Yoshi once again proving he doesnt understand his own game.
>perpetually 45% winrate, even when he was "broken">underwhelming damage>feels less tanky every patch>feeds most games you play with him on your team>drip fed tiny buffs that up his knife damage by 5 or some shitwhy is he being punished for being good 1 year ago?
>>537972561I'm now reminded that Sharpshooter item gives characters like Bebop and Viscous(alt fire) more range on their gun. I'm assuming Drifter also gets this buff too? I know no one would ever try to use it, but it's interesting it actually exists.
>>537973258Yoshi hates him. It's why every hero has specific voicelines against him>why won't shiv go down>i need help killing shivetc.
>>537973258Because he was constantly picked at tournament-level play. He suffers from the Batrider problem.
>tournament-level playlol
>>537973024probably reactive barrier is what you mean
>>537973347They should give those to Victor now.>captcha: YYAPP
I unironically think the games needs to be 5v5
holy shit INSANE drifter backdoor potential AND you dont even need refresher
>>537973258today i had a game where shiv raped us the entire game but we still managed to win because his team was useless he had like 30 kills
>>537973650lmao
>>537973258because when he was strong he was absolutely hideously and unbearably unfun to fightcharacters that feel more fun to fight get away with being overtuned far more than unfun/annoying heros, this is true in every single character-based or class-based videogame its just basic psychology
Its decided then
>>537972524SUMMON MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>537973650Now do mo killing it with like 40 scorns
SOMEONE HELP ME KILL VICTOR HE FARMED 40K IN 25 MINUTES AND HAS 2 LIVES AND DISPELS ANTI-HEAL BY THE WAY
>>537973024This one
>>537973887This, but unironically
No idea why you faggots like to downplay Mina so much.But I will take the free buffs any day.
Should I start with bomb or hook as Bebop?
>>537974251because she was pretty weak. you can make weak heroes work, but still.
Is calico bad?
>>537971525>>537972184woah guys... this character can do something powerful once you buy 50k worth of shitCan you just shut the fuck up please?
>>537974530Only pure psychopaths play her, same with Mirage "mains"
>>537974251Who's downplaying the 45% winrate hero?
>>537973852
they overbuffed mina
>3v2>both of my teammates decide it's not worth fighting and run off without saying anythingShould I just stop caring about my team altogether
FOR THE DJIIIIIINNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN ARGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
Here's a better pollhttps://poal.me/9mtl6v
>>537975181jej
>>537975181total djinn victory
>The Door Man
>>537975181ARGHHHHHHchads...I kneel.
>>537975181no fucking way
>female samurai>female sheriff>female mechanic>female assassin>female sniper>female mob
Anyone tried a rat doorman where you splitpush like maniac?I feel like his gun is too shit to do it but maybe someone triedAlso>Cant escape hotel early by jumping into voidYou vill go and stay at baroness gay baby jail
>play victor>hold w>team doesn't follow up and do anything
>>537975609you WILL play the mini game
So viktor is wraith king from dota?Walk in, die, rez, fuck everyone over by your ult, finish?
Thoughts?https://youtu.be/Ruj42i-lIc8?si=JO59U9zbdA7F4pB6
>sinclair bolt does 1000 damage and fucking oneshots me as mina>he had a 3k leadthe fuck
>>537975609i triedbut i died several times to my door refusing to be placed in a completely flat surface for 5+ seconds
>>537976163buy fortitude
>So heres how this works>I fly in >fwooshh >BOOM>And I kick em in the face
>>537976163welcome to playing minahe'd do the same even if you had a 10k lead btw
>>537971797you know this game is severely lacking female heroes when artist does genderbent
>>537975531Other than gold digger and librarian, what roles should a female be?
>>537976163Keep your eyes on the bolt
>>537976163>>537976426
>I know im pretty bottom heavy to carry but ill try my best to support the team!!?
The amount of drifters I see not buying trophy collector and slowing hex is genuinely making me crash out
>>537975994anything lower than 100% winrate on victor sub phantom is a you problem. he is unkillable unless your opponents have decent tracking
>>537975181do it with doorman
what's better on Seven, going all in on his 1 or his 3
>>537977429his 3's scaling got nerfedmight be ballin time
Got a Mina game post-update, she still dies from being looked wrong at but at least now she's dangerous enough to warrant that.
>>53797636450s housewifecarhop on rollerskates at a drive-in
>>537977545>ult is driving a station wagon and running someone over
>>537977429his 4
>>537976364french maid
I made to Alchemist. I'm the best.
>>537977826>no faceYou're not only an awful person with a clinically autistic lack of empathy, you've got even worse taste
>>537976364Aristocratic vampire. Mina is a modern gold digging whore vampire.
>>537978010Speaking of AlchemistWhat Dota 2 hero would (you) like to see have a Deadlock equivalent?
>>537978518chen
I end up like bottom 3 in networth every time I play Billy. I feel like if you miss out on farm for like 30 seconds you just fall so far behind.Moving forward I'm going to see if I can just rice for 15 minutes straight - only rotating to be lane janny.
>>537978518TechiesPre Rework
>>537978575just being a lane janny always gets you top net worth for your team.
>>537978518Invoker, or Convoker, whatever his goofy ass is. I want to have 300 spells
New casual game mode ideaOne wide laneJungles on the sideStill 6 v 6Endless brooling
>>537978371that would literally be the same as Geist. What they actually need a is tragic byronic hero vampire who only kills or harms criminals, protects people, has to hide from other vampires and wants a cure for his vampirism so as to not have to worry about hurting innocents and go back to having a normal life
>>537977246I'm sorry for being bad..
>>537978763I can see that. You could even make it so that it's all random characters and call it something like 'ARAM' (all random all mid)
>>537978664I figured as much since the lane creeps give the most souls. I'm just getting tired of killing some retard in lane multiple times just for him to AFK rice and make-up for it in like 3-4 minutes. Can't beat 'em, join 'em I guess.
>>537978764Geist isn't a vampire, just an old hag.
You're telling me that after just like 30 years, vampires are already making cabals and secret societies and underground dens?Like, before anyone except raggedy geezers are proven immortal?Get real.
>>537978518TracerGenjiSombra (pre rework)Doomfist (dps)Don't care about dotaslop.
>>537978518Hoodwink. Literally no change. Just port Hoodwink over as is.
>4 games lost in a row>all of them because I got three or four 1-digit IQ subhumans in my team that wanted to brool on mid at all coststhis game really needs an ARAM mode so all of these niggers can get their containment zone already
>>537978518Doom because it'd be hilarious to see the playerbase react to the 'fuck you' button after seeing how hard people bitched about Wraith ult
love 2 matchmake
>>537978518Arc WardenGyroJuggernaut
Man, I wish I could be good at this game.I guess initiate is as high as I can go
>>537979998one of the unreleased heroes has her q
>>537979636I'm not one of the insecure cringelords ranting about trannies here all day. But in the last decade, trannies have taken control of every group related in any way, shape or form to videogames. They are always the moderators, the admins, the devs, and so on. If something like that can happen in the real world, in about 10 years or less. Then vampires with magic can probably do a lot more in 50.
playing as a lane janny and popping off in the late game is the best playstyle tbdesu
>>537979636I mean a homeless cannibal from louisiana mogs 95% of said vampires in pure power though
>>537978217What makes you think that, my friend?
>>537979139No. Not ARAM. Just AM.And you can go back and buy and don't have to wait until death.Really it's a mix of Smite's arena and ARAM. Wider lane, jungles at the side
Post yoursRate others
thoughts
>>537978518IoPhoenixMarciYes mute heroes are cool.
>>537980902
>>537978763that's just tf2
>>537978763the map should be a deadlock-ified Times Square
>>537973650i havent played vs this fella yet. Is he shooting his fingernails out as a gun? wtf thats so fucking gross dude ew
should have known better than to queue on a 5 win streak
How do I make damage with Yamato? Builds on YT are dumb and only work because they have a whole team of asslickers
is grenademaxxing kelvin still good?
>Can't aim>Headshot items are useless
>rescue teammate as bebop with hook>he thanks me over mic>only to attach a bomb and send him flying back to the enemy team>tells me to go fuck myself and leave the gamewe do a little trolling.
>>537982725pretty sure they just lowered the cd for it by 2 or something this patch.
How do I win in this scenario as doorman
even after the buff, doorman still feels weak. dunno, think he'll just end up bad like viscous. unless he dominates his lane he doesn't really contribute much past mid game, and unlike viscous, he doesn't have the best save in the game.
>>537983087>both mina and bebop on your side >no bad heroes on the enemy sideit never even began
>>537983087Pick a carry.
>>537983360>Bebop>Good
>>537983409FUCK i meant to say bad. FMCIL (fuck my chud incel life)
>>537978518Dragon Knight. Anti-Mage.
>>537983225>everyone should be infinitely scalable into the late gamei hate this mindset, it ruined dotadoorman's ulti is the best cc in the game (outside of drifter's ulti i guess)and portals have infinite utility
>>537983225You should be playing him like a really annoying bee. With proper door placement you're impossible to kill and your burst damage combo will let you kill anyone unfortunate enough to try and duel you.The problem is most people neglect his gun and just go all in on spirit, which makes it hard to kill anyone. Getting express shot and headhunter early on will let you take off half of someone's bar with good aim and then your high burst will kill them.
>>537983584doorman's ult is a win-more sorta ult. the only way he's making it to key carry is if they already fucked up and were about to lose>they should infinite scale into late gamedidn't say that. they should take a look at his luggage cart. the delay makes it really hard to use it except as a get-off-me ability. and he also can't make it bigger with expansion either. >portals have infinite utilityvs the practical game winning utility of the cube...idk. he just needs more synergy, and I think luggage is the culprit
Name a flaw>you can't
So I get>>537980902Characters with an easy burst of mobility>>537981635Supports>>537981113But what's the throughline for this?
Is there any particular reason half way through a match my second ability would not function anymore? Like it the button did nothing. Checked keybinds and they were unchanged. After the match ended it worked fine. New bug or is this something that happens often?
>>537983225He needs to stay active to be impactful, you need to use doors to safely steal enemy slot machines, side-push and to constantly gank and try to pick people off in the mid-game. >>537983716Cart needs to be difficult to hit because it's an insanely strong ability. And his ult isn't "win-more". You get to turn any 2v2 into a 2v1. You get to cancel any ult in the game, You get to be the best peel in the game since you can just ult whoever tries to dive your backline. You get to isolate an enemy for six seconds until your team arrives and you kill him. His ult is extremely strong
>Stephanie Kerbis voices VuperVYPER IS YOUR BLONDE HERO BROS
>>537983894viscous can already match that and his puddle punch can disrupt and make big plays more aggressively than luggage cart can. I'm sure some dumb scrim comp tactic will come out, but so far he just feels like an inferior viscous. I understand how powerful the ult is, but it's pretty easy to play around.
i wanted vindicta's damned echo shard stake build to die and welcome basically every nerf stake got, but crow lost an absolutely absurd amount of damage, and flight only got a bit of base damage increase. i'm concerned that perhaps the nerfs struck a bit too much collateral and took out spirit vindicta as a whole, rather than just the stake spamming playstyle. i wish they'd just bring back gun vindicta.
For the League players, what League Champs would you like to see have a Deadlock equivalent?Personally I'd like to see Lux and ZedSinclair already has some of the Zed stuff with the clone but I'd love to see Zed's ult and the more intricate parts of his kit in Deadlock
>>537984229Played spirit vindicta after the nerf and it still felt really strong. Never really cared too much for the crow's damage anyway, it's there to shred people's resistances and spread debuffs. I don't think gun vindicta is ever coming back in higher rank lobbies because it's just too easy to counter
>>537984291Jhin
>>537984102Who?
>5k players over one dayLmfao. This game is fucked.
>>537984291the meat of zed's ult is an item and paige is unironically very similar to lux>aoe damage spell>multi-teammate shield>root that can hit multiple targets>extreme long range line nuke
>>537978518urgot>dotai dont care about that shit i want urgot
>>537984626hot blonde woman
>>537984405it wasn't so easy to counter back when flight scaled 1:1 with your movespeed stat...
>>537983409Why's Bebop bad?>t. some shitter who doesn't understand the game fully yet
>>537984664Her ult doesn't feel as fun as the big laser though, and I liked that she could send her AoE forward and choose when to detonate it
>>537984824Pre or Post Rework Urgot?
>>537984645Maybe they shouldn't use a broken matchmaking then?
>>537985057sticky bombs are easily entirely countered by generically very good everybody-buys-these T3 items (counterspell & debuff remover)uppercut is a very, very unimpactful abilityhyperbeam is practically useless unless someone on your team is giving you some set uphis gun is mediocrethe only good part about him is his hooks. however, unless you're really fucking the enemy with these hooks, just the occasional good hook does not carry the weight of an otherwise useless rest of his kit
>Playing with friends>Me and one of them in lane together, we're the highest ranks in the team with Emissary 6>Get dumpstered in lane against a Mina, after the game figure out she was Ascendant>She's really fed, 10k when we're still at 6 or so and plays really well>Tell my friends in the other lane that she's really good>Buy slowing hex, start coordinating to go after her in teamfights>She has to spend the entire time running away from us so doesn't do any damage, even when really ahead she can't face most of us head-on>We end up winningPoint of this story being that if he was playing Seven or Infernus we would have been completely fucked. Mina feels like high effort, no reward
>>537985057He's like Dota's pudge, slow, doesn't deal much damage unless fed, low-impact abilities... and the hook, which is absurdly strong. Just like pudge he'll never be allowed to be actually strong because the hook is so game-warping that everything else about him has to be kind of shit to balance it out
>>537985436post of course but you could maybe make something silly with his original ult idk
Sinclairchads... i thought were getting caught but they actually gave them mostly buffs. I feel these were aimed at lowering the character's skillfloor by centering Sinclair's gameplay towards autoaim rather than bolt hits.
buff calico
gee i love getting stomped by smurfs in Ritualist IV
>self-denial is deadgood fucking riddance
>>537980902rate me
>>537983716The hotel isn't win more, it's a very good tool for playing from behind since you can remove a fed hero from the fight allowing you to win fights that you wouldn't have otherwise. The bell and the hotel are great. It's the doors and the cart that feel underwhelming on him.The cart is hard to hit because of the long cast time + travel time but the stun is a big payoff which seems good but you only get the stun at max level and anytime before that there's almost no payoff at all and it just feels like a waste of an ability. The design intention is obviously to be using it for repositioning enemies into bad situations with the doors but the doors are so fucking finicky to place that you can only really reliably catch anyone with door + cart in specific known locations that you have autisticly studied ahead of time.They really just need to fix the door placement before they bother balancing any numbers on him because the doors being fixed will buff the cart and make the whole character so much more viable. I wish it would just snap to the nearest valid location that you are aiming at. Is there even any point to allowing you to aim it at invalid walls?
>We kill 2 and push to stage 2 patron>But enemy respawned, we have no shrines and our patron is also stage 2, they have seven, haze, mo and viktor all with ult and full HP, we have like 2 ults and not really teamfight ults, we're also missing a person and they will respawn on the next 20 secondsThe past fight that allowed that push was long and we're all on like 5k souls each minimum SO NATURALLY we back out, I do the call and tell everyone to leave, buy and make use of the new found lea->The 10k damage on a 40 minute game 2/6 Billy said I was throwing for telling the team to back out and started calling GGs for not following his retard call>They push, we kill and easily end the game with no risks and coin flippingIt's insane how utterly retarded some people are, they MUST coin flip everything.
>5 wins in a row>absolutely no changes to the rankthis games a meme
>>537983380who are carriesI don't like infernus haze or wraith
>>537978518QOP
>>537986176Literally just Mina
priest is going to be insanely popular just because he's a new carry that isn't haze/infernus/wraith
>>537986176>throwing knife>blink>aoe>aoe
>>537985519sounds like mina lost because she didn't buy debuff remover (a mandatory item for her against slowing hex), and because her team couldn't manage to win fights despite the fact you had at least half of your team dedicated to chasing her in teamfights.
>>537985963His carts are really easy to land when you play him correctly. They have a massive hitbox on startup so you can just dash in and cart someone guaranteed as long as they're on your right side. Rather than trying to treat it as a skillshot you should treat it as a reverse hook and find ways to get into melee range when you use it.
>>537986297Is he gonna be gay nigger cancer like all those 3?At least Haze is shit early and has no real escapes why the fuck are infernus and wraith hyper mobile lane bullies with CC while being hard scalers, shit game makes no sense.
I have figured out to win pubs in pisslow and it is once again literally afk farmingTrying to help with ganks or objectives with teammates who will pussy out for no reason or be way out of position is just so hard, and they don’t even communicate. Just playing a late game hypercarry that continually shoves lanes and farms neutrals >>> even daring to try to splitpush/gank in cumlow
>>537986461>Is he gonna be gay nigger cancer like all those 3?he's a carry with no mobility skills, so he'll filter 90% of the usual M1 shitters
>>537986257Mina and QoP are nothing alike
>>537986297isn't priest a tank like abrams, though? did new leaks happen or something?he had 2 whole abilities dedicated to durability and another dedicated to stunning people into walls last i knew.
What are smurfs? What does it mean?
>>537986297what about drifter
>>537986552the shield/incense ability looks like it was removed in favor of a new grenade ability. he's tanky like abrams but will probably scale properly as a carry
>>537986338Both of these things are true, i don't really know why an Ascendant player just didn't buy debuff remover and the rest of her team really didn't carry their weight, but on the other hand like i said before, if he was playing Seven we would have been fucked. There's just something paradoxical about her design, she's extremely fragile and slow as shit but needs to get close to people, while not having the sustained or burst damage of other characters. There's just nothing she particularly excels at
>>537986621>another fucking boring copy paste grenadeI thought they were improving on hero design with this new batch but guess fucking not.
>>537986657It's her dogshit fucking 3.Why the fuck does she has a poking left click fucking weapon ability on a fully spirit focused kit that wants her to be closeImagine if Pocket had a weapon attack speed buff instead of fucking briefcase
>>537986565Blue dudes, like Abrams but smaller.
>>537986621>Another grenadeThese retarded devs only know how to make a grenade ability or a knife throwing ability.
DoormanGODS I've been waging all day and haven't been able to try out the new patch, how is feeling? Are games carryable with him now?
>>537987005>>537986689Brehs its not even out yet
>>537986657maybe... but you'd be surprised how well you can active item 1 player out of the game entirely (especially if they refuse to buy defensive items)slowing hex has the benefit of being the mina answer at a mere T2 item rather than the standard T3 these items usually come at, i will concede. but you can really easily fuck up a seven with some friends and a knockdown, or an infernus with, idk, curse. i will admit infernus isn't so easy to completely shut off with just actives.
what's taking these niggers so long to give Sinclair a decent model
>>537987220They will never be, because they're not supposed to be. Doorman is a support-oriented character, you're there to facilitate things for your team. He's not supposed to carry.
>>537987630What can you do with a mannequin? Unless they change his concept, he's just gonna be like that.
>>537987630what's taking them with yamato...?
>>537987660Don't know I feel like built right after these buffs he can be a very strong splitpusher but yeah he'll never have scaling equivalent to Wraith or Nigfernus
>>537987771He's a really good splitpusher with the regular spirit built. If you watch high level Doorman players they basically spend the midgame splitpushing, stealing the enemy jungle and looking for people to pick off with their team. He excels in being very annoying for the enemy team, and really difficult to kill because you can just door away
>>537984531a hero who scales uniquely with attack speed, ammo and crit would be coolfor non-league victims, he has a set attack speed and only has 4 bullets, so instread of hitting fast he hits HARD
>>537987720at least yamato's model isn't a 5 poly paper mache mannequin
>>537987720They saw how much people loved Mina and are making Yamato prettier
>>537984291teemo, but i only care about the ultimate, really. i'd like to see a character who makes liberal use of lethal traps. grey talon and trapper's (rip) traps are just too utility focused.
>>537987695I think they could change the headpiece he wears depending on whether it's Henry or Savannah piloting it, and the assistant is currently just Geist's model
>>537988272the closest thing is (or was) Fathom
4:30pm OCETime to queue up
>>537989051why don't you have any in high prio
>>537989051meant for >>537980902
There are too few heroes with an alt-fire, very under-utilized mechanic
What items to buy to make Vindicta miserable
Vindicta would be so much more satisfying if her rifle fired much slower but hit harder
>>537989345considering the track record of how absurdly overpowered alt fires have been in this game, i'd rather they get deleted from the game entirely and never return.>viscous and yamato throwing no damage falloff nuclear bombs all lane>shiv clicks right mouse to exchange 2 shots for 1 free stamina bar
>>537989563This. Whoever made her rifle working as a smg is retarded.
>>537989539Play abrams, buy knockdown+debuff remover, ram her into a wall and take her to poundtown
>>537989539in order of peak misery to minimal misery:phantom strikeknockdowncursedebuff removerspellbreaker
Best Warden build on the 'rowser?
How to deal with this
>it's a "no one bought antiheal for infuser Victor" episode
>>537990045why didn't you?
I don't want to play infernus haze or wraithyou're telling me those are the only late game options?
>>537990078I did.
>>537990186then i guess it wasn't a no one bought antiheal episode...
What does "not in pit" mean?
>>537990235Alright faggot. No one other than myself bought antiheal episode. Happy?
>>537990316yes. :)
>>537973024You don't cuck Bebop, cause even if you avoid the damage itself he still gets stacks and eventually those stacks will exceed whatever shielding you're getting. It's not about the kills early on it's about the stacks.
>>537990029I like Deathy'sstarts with a small amount of shooting and immediately begins buffing up his ult to win fights in mid and late game
>>537990630*farts*bet you like that too
What's the function of the black and white doorways around the map?
>>537990812shut the fuck up ajmes
>>537975609>>537976029>*buys Warp Stone, insta clears it and just escapes for free anyway*
>>537990825you take your gf into through those and kiss
>>537978518This; >>537978608 and an actual Sniper that still does like 50-60% of their damage at the absolute minimum-- never reduced to tickling people for 1-2 damage and not some obnoxious flying nigger like GT or Vindicta, a low mobility, positioning reliant hard-hitting Sniper. I posted an idea for it once on the forum but of course it got ignored cause it wasn't 'le wacky 1950s tropes' and was leaning more into the fantasy side of it with the outer realms like the ones the jungle monsters and Ixians come from.
>>537979741You vill treat the game as a MOBA and you VILL like it.>>537985696We already have Paradox at home, and it's better than pre-rework Urgot cause it can be cast from further away.
>>537980565This but unironically. It really doesn't take much at this point.
>>537981643My little McGinnis, finally.
>>537990825The ones with a shadow person in the doorway? They're juke rooms, you can hide in there and potentially escape people that way
>>537989114Why bother with high prio if I want to play them all pretty much equally?
>>537982784Even when you can aim, why bother? You have to hard commit for several seconds to kill anyone, let alone do any sort of substantial damage-- and if your team is losing, you could have a 10k lead but still lose and not be able to kill anybody. Meanwhile Spirit characters like Bebop and Geist just nuking people with zero commitment (Bebop hooks, double bombs, punches you away and likely chunks you and 3 of your teammates for 1k HP while Geist just Essence Bombs from the Antarctic for the same amount of damage). I get top hero damage on the team by a wide margin while directly competing with the Hero DMG of the enemy team's carries and still can't kill or meaningfully shred someone if my team isn't already winning it's actually annoying-- even if I have Anti-Heal. I'm about to just stop trying and go back to spamming Bebop and Geist ngl.
>>537990316>anti healyou buy silence bro, youre a week behind
i've started playing like the retard mongrels on my team and honestly i get the appeal. just shut your brain off, never look at the minimap, farm until the next match starts. bliss.
>>537985446>enemy buys Counterspell/Debuff Remover>I just double bomb myself, activate Majestic Leap and scream ALLAHU AHKBARCounterspell and Debuff Remover are not counters to Bebop lmao, that one Bebop youtuber has made that abundantly clear. No, the real counter is Spellbreaker cause the first bomb will get massively negated and while the second one will do it's damage, you've now effectively had your burst damage cut in half + Spirit Resilience. THAT is why Bebop sucks outside of the trenches.
>>537983720>does no damage beyond 20 minutes
>playing ivy>viktor is 10k souls below me>still beats me in the 1v1
We need more noir and less quirky chungus
>>537984645>Silksong came outThis guy is still right though. >>537985437 They shouldn't be using this dogshit matchmaking and deserve to sink for it anyway.
>>537983634>headhunterAnd for those that can't click heads? Just go fuck myself I guess, right?
>>537992121then you just counterspell the self bombs. it's the same principle as counterspelling a lash ground slam, in that case.
>>537992979Cause you're totally gonna know it's coming and from where when Bebop Majestic Leaps from somewhere you can't see him, right? Retard. Spellbreaker + Spell Resilience are the Bebop counters.
Christ they fucked Drifter in this patchI can barely get picks in the jungle anymore
>>537992121Always fun to see absolutely retarded takes like this. Low elos just have a totally different mindset
>>537993228he's still like getting knight in gunbound random select
>>537993061yes? both majestic leap and sticky bombs produce a very telling world sound that gets louder and louder the closer he is.do you just... not hear pockets and the occasional lashes majestic leaping towards you in your games? i'd imagine that's contributing to keeping you in an MMR that allows double bomb bebop to be remotely playable.
>>537993250>he says while thinking he's just gonna Debuff Remover/Counterspell the bombs he literally can't see coming>>537993296You still won't know the exact timing or WHERE it's coming from. You're still better off just cucking the first bomb entirely with Spellbreaker and making the second one do like no damage with Spirit Resilience cause those don't require actually knowing where and when to actually respond to something to counter it.
>>537971213What's the best Mina build/playstyle now that she got Love Bites buffed?
>>537993435I can see them coming
>>537993480Through walls? What kind of retarded Bebops are Majestic Leaping from directly in front of you?
>>537993528He's coming towards me, so I know when he'll get here. Try not being stupid :)
>>537993620Except you won't know the exact timing if you can't directly SEE where he launched from, midwit.
>>537993665The bebop bombs have a set time lil bro. Not like he can adjust the fuse, dingaling.
>>537993435you don't have to look at your target to counterspell them. sticky bombs have an inherent timing to their audio. if i hear loud rapid beeping extremely close to me, the obvious answer will be to parry (especially if i know bebop is majestic leaping around with bombs on himself).counterspell is nearly singlehandedly keeping pocket in the dirt at higher ranks, and pocket does it without announcing to the world with a loud ass ticking sound that he's about to explode into green shit.
>>537993705>>537993754He can still change the timing by either delaying his drop until the very end of the fuse or drop early and just run at you while baiting you to counterspell early. It's still a coinflip of if you actually counterspell him or not cause you might do it early assuming it's the end of the fuse time already, or you might do it too late assuming he dropped early. Just take the guaranteed route with Spellbreaker and Spirit Resilience like any smart person would.
>>537990045Maybe they did, but he has rapid recharge and maxed 2 so he gets to spam debuff remover and antiheal does nothing, in which case you need to silence him on top of it
>>537993829>he can still change the timingNo he can't.
>>537993829why would i spend 9600 to take less damage from the most useless build in the game when i could spend 3200 to be entirely immune to the most useless build in the game
>>537993457LOOK AT HER FUCKING HAND HAHA
>>537993891Except he can by changing when he leaps in, there's a few seconds of leeway with the fuse, idiot. He either drops in early with the fuse still ticking to bait you into counterspelling early thinking it's a last second drop, or it's an actual last second drop and you're either too slow or think it's another bait and don't parry at all.>>537993937Cause you're not guaranteed to hit the Counterspell EVERY time. Neither of you two are the gods of this game you think you are, you WILL get tripped up, you WILL fumble it.
>>537994049If you insist that it's totally impossible I can also buy eshift over your two retard items and still totally negate all the damage and spend less souls
>>537994132......okay fine, Eshift is definitely an option too that is basically impossible to fumble due to how long it lasts.
>>537994132>>537994170I honestly forgot Eshift was even an item cause I don't even see the blatant smurfs in my game buy it.
>abrams leaves the game despite being way ahead>check his steam>level 1>look at previous names used>look at friends list cuz it's public, one of the names is on his friends list>"Playing deadlock"Why are cunts like this
>>537993841With today's patch he can only do that every 8 seconds, that's plenty of time to reapply stuff
>>537994049so your idea of baiting the counterspell is to plop in front of their face too early and hope you startle them into pressing parry rather than them just doing it by the sound of the timer you're emitting?you have to drop in REALLY early, in that case. counterspell has a 1 second duration, and you have a fuse of 3 seconds. you drop in a bit too late, startle them and they counterspell, it's gonna parry it regardless. that's quite a gamble, considering how obviously not-about-to-explode the sfx for sticky bomb would be at that point.
>>537994339>so your idea of baiting the counterspell is to plop in front of their face too early and hope you startle them into pressing parry rather than them just doing it by the sound of the timer you're emitting?Actual players don't actually listen to the timer in the actual chaos of a fight. Don't even lie to yourself. That's like saying all the insane escape movement techs people come up with get used (they don't, people just freak out and can't do any of it right in the moment, even in higher ranks).
>>537971213>mfw i asked for more cute girls>mfw i asked for a back line support heroThey made Paige specifically for me
>>537993457nothing changed, she's just an ult bot still.
Flopping tranny deadcock.
What build should I do as drifter for more of a support/roamer?
>>537994552>character that literally only does damage and gets scaling damage off kills>support????
>>537994636Yes bitch did I stutter!!!!!!
i thought you guys were joking when you guys complained about teammates that would BROOL MID all game.just saw those ingrates for the first time and i'm in absolute awe at these people just stacking 4 mid as the enemy team takes the entire map for free.
>>537993457Just continue building upon her ult.Use her ult to kill people? Nice.Use her ult to kill objective? Nice.Build items around her Rake? You're retarded.
>>537994552You should be roaming as him anyways, jump in when the enemy is pushing a lane or engaging and use the ult to catch them off guard (most players just panic when they get the vision loss and you can combo with lash ult if they are incapable of hearing)
>Killing it as pocket >10-1>10k souls ahead>2 teammates never wanna push with team>Neutral camp farming the entire fucking game>Still behind me in souls because I'm actually taking objectives and winning brools>Eventually die because I challenged midboss>See what they're doing during this>Farming neutralsThese people arent humanthey cant beIt's impossible
>>537994437if that truly were the case, nobody would counterspell sticky bomb in general in fights; the most defining tell that it's about to detonate is the sound effect.i will offer you an anecdote against that notion: i counterspell sticky bombs in the middle of fights. it's so easy that frankly i think it's actually caused me more harm than good in some fights, as there is usually something much worse to counterspell... but i chose to counterspell the bomb(s) just because it was there and easy.
>>537994825saw 3 people deal 0 obj dmg in one game today. the haze on the enemy team farmed up 71k souls while they did that. wonders abound.
>>537994976People counterspell bomb in fights cause some literal retard on Bebop insists on sticking it to you, which makes it WAY easier to track when it will go off even during the chaos of a fight.
>it's a 'your entire team has grouped up to take a walker but they're all faggot pussies that are being held back by a single player and meanwhile you're losing the entire rest of the fucking map' episode
I exclusively put Bebop bombs on myself and shout Arabic prayers on the mic
>>537995113that's when you dive the enemy thinking it'll force them to engage, they all back off and then you shoot yourself in the head.
>>537994887Yes I roam but I can't aim so I dont want to build around gun
>>537995042what i don't get is how i'm even matched with these people, i'm in like the 4th or 5th rank now so these people should have learned how to control the map and farm by now.is it just the russians logging in at this hour or something?
>>537995279Well, there spirit drifter but he's dogshit unless you're ahead and can instakill peopleI would advise practicing on the birds in the loft until you get tracking down well, aim is pretty important when drifter's main damage is from your "gun"
does mystic regen work on mcginnis turrets?
Is trophy hunter worth it on Victor? Seems like a great synergy in all regards
https://files.catbox.moe/21y88g.mp4>vyper has the hottest VA in the gamewasnt expecting that
>>537995279Drifter's bullets are gigantic, it's hard to miss with them.
>>537995597Tiktok made me hate women more than HR
>>537995597The sad part is she's probably only played video games for like a grand total of 20 minutes in her entire life.
>>537995778That's the opposite of sad
>>537995778whys that sad
>>537995597>Hottest VA>Not Jeanne TiradoFun fact, Tirado also voiced a character in Soul (2020) whose Surname was Arroyo
>>537971309Holliday got nerfed though, does that mean she's MTF?
>>537995806>>537995808Because I want to fuck her and then play deadlock together while she still has my splooge fermenting in her fish trap
>>537995846looks trans
>>537995778It's a job, not every VA is going to be a turbo-autist like Matt Mercer
Jesus what a useless piece of shit victor is now. Just did a few games trying both gun and spirit and his laning is just atrocious. It was already bad, but the health nerfs make it so he just can not win any trades. 0 range, most engagements without a hard cc lane partner are a few seconds, barely enough to do any damage. Also several bugs I noticed with battery not healing on the T5 multiple times in a game and stun from ultimate not working. Early lane gun, you have no ability usage if they can keep distance. Early game life, no damage, early game spirit, hope they don't burst you. Not worth it just for a chance to be a late game god.Why am I playing him again? Kelvin has infinitely more health and lane presence and a beam that's more damage with 0 of the drawback. They even buffed him last patch despite being top tier lmao. Damn shame Yoshi has no idea how to balance the game.Also a side note, anyone else getting like way worse server performance in game? Melee/parry being more wonky and skills retroactively not firing? Had a couple of friends trying out bebop and they had bombs retroactively taken back after being planted? Shots also felt really laggy but maybe I'm just out of practice trying the new heroes.
>>537995846>has that disgusting bull ring that's meant to control a retarded animalNo thanks
>Seven is back to being the OP champ of deadlock after nerfs to drifter and victor thanks yoshi
>>537995597>she voiced ALLMIND in AC6
>>537995597she's also probably the best female VA in the game so far. Crazy how much character that is given just from the voice to a placeholder model, I hope they really incorporate how much of a loser she is into her finished design
>>537995959Dont care he was gay before
>>537995959Victor's laning always sucked ass, he has like 20 less hp by the time he gets his ult
>>537996002>>537995936Oh right I forgot you guys are fags
i feel like there are still too many characters in the game that guarantee your lane will be boring.
>>537995462Idk man it's also that I find guns boring. Maybe deadlock isn't for me I just want to gank people but shiv and lash and drifter all need to shoot
>>537995557Yes.
>>537996275>bull ring>danger hairShe's all yours anon. Have fun.
>Yamato and viscous have worthless alt fires nowWhy even have alt fires lol
>>537996410Yeah why even. I think they should be removed.
>>537996275t. divorcemeat
>>537996275>simping for vayou are gay as in you will never touch women
>>537996410they nerfed yamato's too?it sure is funny how it took them a whole year to realize you can absolutely decimate people in the early game if you were really good at landing them. there's just actually no counter play if yamato keeps landing that shit for 70 damage.
>>537996482>>537996485>>537996349>>537996328Oh it's thirdie hours
>>537996603here's another (you) because you are worth it
>>537993457>Lowest win rate>Highest pick rate>Lowest health pool>Weakest kit>Bottom feeder of vampire society>Drifter consistently demolishes her in 1v1>On a delusional mission to climb a ponzi scheme hierarchy>Owes all her popularity to her pretty looksWhy is she such a jobber?
>>537996223Yeah I haven't played him in like a week with all those intermittent nerfs, I just didn't realize it was *that* bad now. It's just wild how bad the balancing is for someone with 0 utility early game getting more laning nerfs without touching his endgame output. Just needs to be normalized but instead they seem to make you suffer playing him until you buy the core setup
>not liking trashy women makes a thirdieleast obvious projection
>>537976161Artifactbros... we won
I tried to be a good farmer as vyper but even though I farmed a lot and was pretty rich I still wasnt able to be the most souls earned
Are holiday gun builds fun?
>>537996318Well anon, even the most spirit focused characters still benefit from being able to aim. You're not escaping that unless you want your lane partner to do all the CSing for you
Greetings, new player here! A few days ago I got the opportunity to finally play this game, and I'm hooked! Been playing it obsessively for like 2 days now despite the gaming experience being getting beat into the ground trying to learn the game. I've played exclusively Paradox, McGinnis and Holiday. Holi is the only character I haven't been able to win with. Anyone here plays her that can give me some pointers? Also if anyone can reply with Paradox art I'd be greatful.
>>537996603>"Hmm not my type, no thanks. You can have her.">complainsYeah you must be a cuck. There's no other explanation for seeking validation like this.
>>537995446government mandated 50% winrate until you're good enough to drag five of the most barely-functional retards of each tier to the finish line
>>537992532So, remove Paige and Billy
okay but do any of the VAs look like vindicta in real life? pretty bluish white hair and pretty blue skin... im swooning...
>>537997239I don't play Holliday but if you are, make sure you're jumping and punching your barrels when you throw them. If you do that they will explode on contact with the hero or an obstacle making them much easier to land
I don't know how many more matches with my nigger teammates fighting in blue lane while our walkers get shat on I can take
Teach me how to win games through objectivesI don't want to broolI always end up going to jungle camps though because every lane usually is covered
>>537997368it's funny because they changed the map to make mid walker easily defendable by a single person and yet people still do this shit.
Just played with a retarded Victor that try to build melee and refused to buy and spirit resistTheir entire team was spirit build too
>>537996960I exclusively melee in lane with regen items
>>537997475>every lane usually is coveredThe team get most souls from 2 person at a time.
>>537971382Crazy how ass this looked
>>537997475I've always played rat in shooters. If you're in low elo lobbies specially. Just chasing off people who push your unguarded objectives is enough. If they're pushing your walker, stay behind it, and peak shoot the candle guys and enemy players. If you have area control cooldowns use them. It's all about playing safe and making the enemy team spend significantly more resources fighting or chasing you.
>enemy pushing>shoot their troopers off the zip line and fling a kudzu way back there>watch the enemy slowly process the fact that no troopers are coming so they cant push>they just give up and go to a different lanelove it
>>537996953Spirit is more fun + better overall and her gun has a lot of reticle bloom but you can kinda make it work.
Last chance for you guys to get me a good drifter roaming build before I join and ask discord
Mina is a great shitlow carry for winning games when everyones allergic to pushing objectives also:>the ENTIRE enemy team dead>3 of us at their base>patron just died>infernus says we should fall backHow do these stupid faggots figure out how to breath making calls like this
>>537998597he just wants to buy items
>>537976761There's only one build for drifter in the entire game that uses that item. Maybe you are the one who is wrong hmmmmmm??????
>>537997475>you pick wraith>you push lanes>you push towers/walkers>you fuck off when enemy is nearby>you end the game with 20k+ obj damage because your team and the enemy are too busy to stop you from destroying their base>nvm you actualy lose because the game is now effectively 5vs6 and enemy knows how to group up and push
>>537998916GEMMY GEM GEM!
Bros, long range / sharpshooter on doorman, try it out unironically it feels good
>It's another we were dominating the early to mid game then my team decides to randomly take 3v1 fights repeatedly and feed the enemy episodeSome save me from this fresh hell.
>>537979636vampires are old world supernatural, from before the maelstrom
>>537999258>it's another "we were dominating early to mid game but we have a Mina at all, a 2-11 Abrams and a Kinetic Carbine maxxing Paradox (aka a bunch of useless shit)" episode
>>537999562>vtuber
>>537986552He's a "marksman" according to the game files, while Abrams is a brawler.
With duration extender and transcendent cooldown vypers srewjab dagger has 100% uptime on the slowI feel like theres funny potential here considering it drains stamina at max rank
>people say Wraith is a lane bully>I have never once been bullied in lane by a Wraith even when she can actually land her shots cause no full auto gun character in existence does damage before getting properly farmed and it takes ages for them to kill anyone even with perfect aim before their build comes onlineThe real lane bullies are shit like Geist and Bebop that just casually erase 200 HP on a 4 second cooldown. Spirit spammers bully the lane while gun characters either KS or are forced to sit back and farm.
Just let vyper do damage to people she petrifies and increase the cooldown on her bolaIts that easy
>>5379996763200 souls upgrading to transcendant cooldown on vyper thoughand it's a fading slowand you have to hit every dagger
>Pick any hero>Do pretty well in lane>It doesn't matter because my teammates are feeding the enemy Drifter and Victor or they are afk/abandoning russiansThey really managed to recreate the crushing despair of Dota
>>537999676>3 second slow>3.5 second cd>100%??
>>537999258>>537999562>>538000301Either start queuing with people who are not randos, or play another genre!
>>537999784How can someone be so confidently wrong?Is this peak dunning kruger?
so glad to see that victor is basically release shiv, but instead of being unkillable and having an execute with built in refresher and chip damages you to death, he's unkillable with built in cheat death and chip damages you to death
Sometime, I feel like Victor's truest purpose is to 1v6 the enemy team while your teammates take the objectives.
The more I play Deadlock the more I enjoy it and appreciate it's design, so I decided to try Dota 2 since it's also a Valve moba and Deadlock proved to me that it could make this genre fun. It wasn't fun and I only appreciate Deadlock more
How does this game not have forcestuff or glimmer any 1600 cheap escape item. Is icefrog retarded? At least Victor can press 1 button and delete everything, very skill.
>>538000442>Not pictured above: guy on the right telling guy on the left to kill himself for playing Protoss>Followed by guy on the left calling guy on the right a faggot for spamming brood lords
>>538000475I'm just stating my observations, even when they can aim I've never been blatantly bullied by a Wraith player in lane unless they have some Spirit cuck on their lane chunking me for her.
How would you feel about a 4v4 2 lane mode or a 8v8 4 lane mode?
>>538000757rescue beam is 3200
>>538000757>How does this game not have forcestuff or glimmer any 1600 cheap escape item. Is icefrog retarded? At least Victor can press 1 button and delete everything, very skill.Guardian Ward and Rescue Beam exist anon>but no invis!!!!Yeah because it would either be totally useless or totally broken depending on the range the invis broke at>but no push it pull!!!!can't exactly do the force staff push shit in a game where people are facing 360 degrees
>>538000779Hey at least he gets to pick what race to play instead of having to queue for 3 different characters at once.
How's Billy? Is he overpowered right now?
>>538000672The more I play deadlock, the more I want to go back to dota because it's straight the better and more balanced game. There's a reason why dota has that, btw 2013 dota was invite only you had to pay 40$ for a beta.>>538000826I was talking about 1600 item you retard
>>538000864drifter>>>>>victor>paige>billy>mina for new characters atm. so no not really.
>>538000897in this game supports get farm so 3200 isn't expensive
>It's another try to splitpush and my team is all afking jungle letting minions hit our walkers episodeMakes me cringe
>>538000897Dota 2 benefited from DotA
>>538000897I feel like I just can't play dota anymore. I need current Deadlocks movement to keep me interested. Well that and there's no Abrams in Dota
>>5380008972013 is after they started doing events with different gamemodeswe're in late 2011 on the dota timescale, the deadlock playtest leaked way earlier than it was supposed to
>>538001502>2013 is after they started doing events with different gamemodesnope 2013 dota didn't even have ranked, retard.
>>538000841>>but no invis!!!!veil walker? shadow weave?
>>538001569Glimmer cape is a Dota 2 item that you can use on an ally or yourself. It gives them a temporary buff that gives them magic shield (similar to spirit shield that deadlock used to have) and an invisibility effect following a short fade time. It's a common pick up on Dota 2 support heroes because of how valuable the stats and versatility of the active are. Those two items you mentioned only work on yourself, and that idiot was complaining about lack of equivalent support items (when they already exist in genre relevant forms).
>>538001547ranked is not indicative of the game's level of developmentpeople were vehemently against adding ranked in early dota 2, I was there
>>537972441kek love this nigga
Can someone tell me why shiv, who has one arm. Decides to use his only good arm to hold up his jacket? Also, how the FUCK does he even make his pompadour? You absolutely cant do this hairstyle with one arm
Paige is the ultimate stall laner and I hope everyone that mains her gets raped and begeaded
>>538002009I will start maining her then
Bring him back
>in lane against mina as paige>she does nothing except shoot me while my seven jerks off or somethingPaige is so fucking dependent on your lane buddy having a single fucking braincell it's not even funny>Try and melee confirm creeps>eat half my health in harass for it>Try and ranged>Lmao no>Try and harass>throw a book or a sword>Am now on cooldown forever
>>538001898>>537972441In what context does he say this again?
>>538002656After Flame Dash I believe
>>538002589>Paige is so fucking dependent on your lane buddy having a single fucking braincell it's not even funnydid you try pressing any of your extremely overtuned buttons. perhaps your lane wide root, or your jakiro ultimate with charges.
>>537994308>8 seconds4 seconds, anonRapid Recharge.
>get off work to play deadlock> Don't even have ping issues but my game is fucking broken>My game is stuck in place and I can hear things going on> DC multiple times for It to work for a minute then it repeats> Restart computer and now my PC won't even restart The fuck is going on man I just want to play some fucking deadlock holy shit
>>538002790>LET ME CONSOOM MY FUCKING PRODUUUUUUUCCCCCTTTTTT
>>538001926My guess is >mechanical arm is designed to be able to handle/fire the shotgun one handed>sekiro-esqe shinobi tool slot in his arm to sling blades from
taking a walker is always better than securing the urn, right?
Why haven't they buffed her
>>538003179she doesn't need buffs you tranny
I unironically wish spirit haze was viable>Sleep dagger has very high spirit scaling>Sleep sets you up to do whatever>Can use dagger AND any items without breaking stealth and stealth duration scales off of spirit giving you permanent uptime>Technically does spirit damage (with scaling) every 20 stacks of focus too>Base ammo also scales off of spirit, making her the best target for mercurial magThey purposefully give her reasons to use stealth but it's just not good without severe, unrealistic investment.
>>538003257Yes she does because rescue beam still has a 1 minute cooldown and her tether still only shares 25% healing
>>538003309It's nice to have spirit scaling for hybrid builds and utility items even if going pure spirit is a throw.
>>538002589>eat half my health in harass for ityour 2 lets you take trades for free>Try and harassNot your role unless you go High Velocity Bullets into Express Shot, use your 1 to wipe waves quickly and put pressure on the guardian. You'll hit more of your root if you aim it behind the enemies as they're backpedalling while shooting your lane partner
>>538003309i used to play melee haze but then they patched the dagger to be unreliable as shit and then made the map smaller so it was harder to find isolated targets.
Every time I close the game my keybinds reset.
>Get a solid 30k lead 15 minutes in and push enemy base>Get one shrine down and the other to a sliver>They wipe us but its okay I tell the team to take mid boss>They farm jungle instead>They get picked off one by one in the jungle>Ivy tells us "I got it" and she flies in to take their shrine>,,, which has backdoor protection so she couldn't kill it before Billy bent her over and fucked her to death>they have now surpassed us by 15k in net worth and are pushing all our walkers>Ivy the retard didn't get the clue, and didn't listen to us tell her, that backdoor protection would still be up and she decides to ult in when all of our lanes are pushed to our base>"it's very low I got it I can race it">she predictably does nothing>Billy finds her and fucks her AGAIN>they push>they end the gameWHY WHY WHY WHY WHY
>>538003365Healing nova got a big buff, use that with trans cooldown instead
>>538003528you did something retarded like making your game config read-only.
>>538003608>trans cooldownDon't you mean YNBAW Cooldown?
I'm tired of Victor and Drifter.I'm tired of losing every game because of these characters, on either team.
are 4 lanes ever coming back?
>>538003660If they're smart no
>>538003608I always did use it, it's not enoughI used to use all three healing items in one build but they've enshitted them all up
>>538000442>just play with friends!95% of sane people don't play MOBAs anymore. I'm part of the 5% that's in hell that doesn't want to be friends with lunatics but can't find anyone else that's sane.
>>538003816even with healing booster or tempo?
>>538000442>me when I pick Vyper
>>538003884Tempo just gives the same as what booster used to iirc, the fire rate is nice but it's a big ask for just thatAnd healing booster was always mandatory when you're aiming to heal, so it's a given
>>538003816Did you try being more useful to your team than Fortitude?
Another game 2-17 as drifter. Why is he so hard bros?
>>538003640N-no?
>>538001926holdover design from neon prime, it's likely that final shiv won't have the prosthetic. Do any voice lines even reference his and GT's arms?
>>538004081>implying fortitude heals in combat
>>538004208what did his neon prime vers look like?
>>538004226Ah yeah combat heals are what lifesteal items are for. Did you try being more useful to your team than 1600 passive item?
>>538004256almost the same
>>538004256Literally what he is now with a slightly different colour scheme and sci-fi clothes instead of 50s biker clothes
>>538004294>implying lifesteal items heal for 1.5k+ on multiple heroes in 2.5 seconds in a fight where you weren't already guaranteed to win anywayThe only way you can clown on old healbot Ivy is by being retarded on purpose
>>538004598Yeah I'm talking about now anonymous
What's even the point of playing gun characters?>Haze is super present in teamfights, aims really well and lands most of her shots AND is maintaining a ton of farm on the side>still has half my damage and less damage than literally everybody else but this dumpy-ass Victor player>this kind of shit happens in EVERY game it feels like>if your team is remotely behind or straight up shit you cannot kill anybody as a gun character or do meaningful damage>but as a Spirit character you can still do actual damage-- and if you're good enough-- still pad your KDA and damage stats because you don't have to hard commit and sit in the middle of the enemy team to kill anybodyGun characters feel like a test in futility and masochism even when you can aim well.
We NEED more supports like Paige. Make her a qt blonde healer who can latch to allies.
>>538004372>dead bebop on the ground>>538004208There's a line that references Wraith's four arms. I think its a Holiday Wraith interaction. "Not exactly ideal of subtly" or something like that.
>>538004645Well I wasn't and I haven't been since the part where I complained about how fucking bad they got nerfed
>>538004598>OCE Ivy playerYou aren't me though?
>>538004718wraith's four arms are from deadlock though, she looked like this in neon primethey're controlled by her psychic powers, not robot limbs
>>538004854Sometimes there's more than oneThat's a LOT of Ivy games though, I'm impressed
>>538004956Look maybe shiv gets a rewrite and he's a psychic, too. Given that the setting Ansari has a literal robot, I'm cool with hand waving the whole thing with a prosthetic arm.
>>538004646Because if everyone goes spirit, countering them is as easy as buying spirit resist... leaving them vulnerable to gunBasically, the point of gun characters is to filter shitters
think i'm finally coming up on the tail end up my forced losses after a win streak. it's almost time to be allowed to play again
>>538005348>gun characters are the cucks that act as the glue simply to keep the enemies from FULLY resisting your lineup's damage>but they still get mogged by Spirit characters anyway while doing soIt's fucking ADC in League all over again.
>>538005021>ivy onlyDogtard?
>>538005550No, but I am also a dotard if that helps
I think Victor's best bet for gun stuff is getting Berserker, Frenzy, Close Quarters/Point Blank and that's basically it because you need the other shit like Infuser and Spirit Resilience to be allowed to actually use your other abilities
we need more core heroes
>pick up urn>ping to help me>maybe one person comes>enemy team always sends 4+ what causes this phenomenon
Does anyone ACTUALLY buy this item?Like, ever?
>>538005767Victor for the funnies
>>538005703main character syndrome
>>538005767I saw a billy buy it on the enemy team the other day and my teammates were freaking out because they thought you're supposed to die at the end of the duration no matter what, so they stopped focusing him in the middle of a fight.
game needs basher and abyss way more cc if you make a moba shooter.
>>538006057this is not moba shooter retard
Can the tanktard meta please just stop
What type of low elo am I in if despite being a controller player that just started playing 2 days ago I have the soul lead in my team?
>>538006178Tank meta is good. This isn't CSGO.
why the FUCK did they not remove debuff purge from Victor's 2it's fucking stupid that a healing character can purge antiheal within his kit and it's extra stupid that it also purges geist malice and haze fixate100% this is gone later
>moba shooter>tanktard meta>controller player
>>538006178the other meta is just getting blown up by retard spirit nukers so god no
>>538006279Icefrog has always sucked at hero balancing, part of why dota is so good is because most of the heroes were made by other people.
>>538006178Grey Talon is a tank?
was holliday murdered?
>>538006445Yes, by the TroubadorThe hero we see in-game is actually her vengeful ghost
>>538006445only raped by BIC
>>538006178pick rates are going to be pretty funny if we ever get a draft mode.there's really no reason to play a character that doesn't have 3500 hp.
Genuinely asking, when will they fix Yamato and make her sexy?
>>538006556can her hand suck my semen from cock?
>>538006556bugs aren't sexy
>>538003309like a year ago before they pretty seriously nerfed cooldown/duration items I unironically ran this, you'd end up with a knife with like a 3s cooldown and a 7s sleep so I would just permaknife people if they were alone and they literally couldn't do anything about itand I'd use knockdown from stealth to set up that first knife
Siphon drifter seems core. Just build some spirit resist so you dont get nuked, then attack speed
>>538003309You used to be able to do this like everyone else, you missed out. She was also just extremely OP so it didnt matter much what you built
so did siphon bullets get nerfed or buffed?i don't know how many "boons" you actually get in a typical game.
>>538004372wheres the gameplay footage for this
>>538006926boons = level ups that get you more abilities so you get a good amount
Why isn't there a dagon in this game?
>>538006926nerfed early, slightly buffed lateMax number of boons is like 30 at 50k souls or something
>>538006926somewhere between 20 and 32siphon gets its old value at 25 so pretty fuckin late + duration nerf means it's always worse than before
>>538007060Dagon is only fair in top-down view.
>>538006556you made me check Gheist porn and there's one where she's pregnant. Thanks
BROOLER GAMEMODE fucking WHEN
>>538006926It's the same as it was before when your net worth is 32k. In ultra-lategame where you get 50k souls, it will steal 6 more health than it did before.Nerf.
>>538004208>holdover design from neon prime, it's likely that final shiv won't have the prosthetic. Do any voice lines even reference his and GT's arms?iirc it's actually apart of their lore. GT and Shiv are both in the same monster hunting organization or w/e and them having prosthetic arms is like some kind of ritual or some shit.
EU lobby Alch I DXDM7
>>538007341>iirc it's actually apart of their lore. GT and Shiv are both in the same monster hunting organization or w/e and them having prosthetic arms is like some kind of ritual or some shit.Calico was also part of their org before deciding to become a criminal, check out her arms too
>winning fight/have an advantage>team backs out>i die alonesucks to suck, i guess. i shoulda noticed my team roached out for no reason.
>>538005627You're not Tony, Lebron, or PhoenixIs picrel you?
What the lore reason we got so much furs?
>>53800692632 max boons, which gives you 60 steal per bullets.You need to get 25 boons to reach pre-nerf siphon, which requires 31400 souls which is pretty much when the game would end anyways.
>>538007527people in this game cannot grasp the idea of dying for an objective.i regularly see people bitch out and then get caught and die anyways when they could have just all-inned on a walker to take it out before dying.
>>538007527until your teammates prove otherwise they are creeps with worse AI and you should assume as much
>>538007530I have no idea who any of those names areI'm just a shitter who loves Ivy, there's not much more to it than that
>>538007341>>538007526so they're probably keeping the baxter society arm thing, but i don't think GT and Shiv's arms are final. Calico's is more like a marionette kind of like wraiths so their arms will probably be changed to maintain visual cohesion.And to bring us back to the original query, it would probably be easier for shiv to style his hair with the kind of prosthetic that calico has.
>>538007683>3 heroes>much
>>538007683Icefraud aka Yoshi has never been the same since the addition of Hoodwink. Word is he even commissioned animated hmofa r34 of her.
>>538006178go back to league, subhuman
>>538007683Only two of those are furry. One's black, two are dudes, and one's Shiv.We need a female werewolf still.>>538007832>Word is he even commissioned animated hmofa r34 of her.Holy fucking based
>>538007527I had the most insane lane with a Seven the other day where he would go and stun people and NEVER NOT ONCE follow up and chase the enemy. So many times where he stuns someone, I chase to confirm a kill, he stays back, his teammate comes and I die. I was calling him out on mic, no response. I then say "okay fuck you you can have the lane to yourself" and he immediately responds with "thank you". Guess who ended up losing the towers in that lane (him). I've just never played with a seven who didn't chase stuns ever. Baffling, he still did this in team fights after I gave up on helping him too.
>>538007683>human cursed with a goat head>a cat>a stone gargoyle>actual beastman>sideburns>actual snake
>>538007530>>538005627Nevermind this is, isn't it?>>538007801Yeah I just worked it outI've been in one of your games the other day that was way, WAY too high rank for my ass
>>538007981So Mo is the result of some kind of alchemy or ritual? Cool
>>537981643>vindicta is canonically same height as mcginnis if not even tallerlel
>>5379816436head ginnis
Is this what my laning/creep farming should look like?>Use most of my bullets to harass enemy players>Kill the tall trooper early because it heals everyone>Last hit troopers and shoot the orbs when they flash>Prioritize enemy orange orbs over my own green orbs since if they don't deny my orbs, i get them automatically>Also buy stuff in the shop right next to the guardian whenever convenientEverything else on the map is a big maze of bullshit so far to me
So what's the ups and downs with the patchnotes? Is Mina not doshit anymore?
>>538008714you're gonna be dogshit with mina no matter what they do
>>538008714mina now stomps you in lane if she gets like 2 shots on you but she's still a squishy bitch that requires perfect positioning to play mid/late game otherwise you're fodder
Low ranks are much more fun to play than boring, repetitive games at high elo
>>537971723>wow a character with a 60k build can do 3000 damage with her ult
>>538008714she's still c tier unless you're like sub arcanist
So what does Vindicta do now?Her only usable build got killed
>>538009237play a newer character. valve is somehow already power creeping with the worlds smallest roster.
gun holliday is aimlabs: the character
>just saw a vindicta use her ult to last hit a soul orbWhat the fuck is it with vindictards
>YAMATO IS LAME AND DOES NO DAMAGE
Is Doorman's gun easier to headshot with?Like is the bullet bigger or something?it feels like it is
>>538009972Some guns projectiles are just massive, try out in sandbox how much easier is to do headshots with Viscous gun compared to Hollyday. Mirage also had huge bullets before the nerfs.
>>538010101Damn, and here I thought I was nice for landing some of those
>>538009972projectile is massive and his own hitbox is super small so he's able to poke aggressively. if he's remotely competent he just gets to autowin any lane he's in with his retard gun and bell
>>538010101BUT IF YOU CLOSE YOUR EYES
>>537971382>all the early leaks specifically showed gt and yamato, knowing they were the most unfinished and looked like shit
>Judd laig mai overbatch :DDDDDD
>>538010524And who were the early leaks by, if not that most beloved "man" uncle dane the retard main
Had a match where every time a player died their corpse teleported to the center lane bridge. For a moment the lane completely stopped fighting after I pointed it out
>>537971797Loli Victor… Victoria even>>538010715Did you take a screenshot?
>>538010796Here's a screenshot from when I first noticed it, yellow lane killed Abrams and Ivy
>>538010628He only leaked some dynamo video
>>538010598Overwatch players DOMINATE deadflop you'll have to live with it
>>538007937the past two days i keep getting lanes with the most ABSOLUTELY biggest pussies. I saw a victor spend ten minutes under our tower. i saw an infernus do the same thing. I hit them both with my bebop bomb, got a heavy melee in, parried victor, and died and my infernus was under tower with full health.like, am i the crazy one for taking trades in lane? are you SUPPOSED to be a gigantic pussy?
>>538010598Why would you be upset over a perfectly relevant webm? And this replying-without-postquoting is for small children. Like that dreadful TF2 general.
>pick mina>shoot people>it does damagewtf did they do to my character
>>538011062Don't bring tf2g into this
>>538011029No people don't realize just how strong their characters are. I've started matches as victor literally holding W and M1 against characters I know have weaker base damage and they end up taking a lot more damage than I do. Infernus can quickly burn you from the get go if you let him.
>make 60k dmg with Geist easily each game>try Yamato>26k dmg average ?????????HOW DO I IMPACT?
>>538011029meanwhile I had a billy towerdive before creeps dropped then I got zoned away from the first wave and we were 400/400 vs 790/790 souls when he came back
>drifter: THEIR MARKED... HEH HEH HEH>great, who's marked?>drifter: I missed
>>538011029If I die my MMR wont go upso I just play not to die
so when do normalfags leave?
>enemy team has 4 feeders>Drifter still almost singlehandedly wins the fucking gameWhat the actual fuck is this retarded character
>>538010352it's called height over bore chud
>Wait 4 minutes in queue to get into an instalossVery cool
>>538010352That makes no sense. It's fps, fast projectiles, slow targets and close range fights. Why make hitboxes that forgiving?
>>538011457Geist is a stat padding hero
>>538011501
>>538011892should've hit buildings you're playing the fastest objective deleter in the game
>be a hooligan>end up in the Doorman's bedroom
>>538012070Literally can't split push against that hero, retard. And for most of the game we weren't winning fights to actually get any pushing done until me, Haze and Mina ALL scaled cause Drifter is a fucking retarded hero.
>>538011956Meaning? Should I try Paradox instead? What are some other strong characters that are also easy to play like Geist?
>>537971797uhmmm... where ivy???
>>538011942Californian tranny baby game.
>>538010352Those are literally just training NPCs you don't see anywhere else
Is it just me or is 4chin slow today?
>>538011693I want MORE normalfags playing the game.
>>537972256That would be Islamophobic and antisemitic.
>>538011892Drifter is the new poopoo rank stomper. In sewage 5 where everyone is either brawling constantly or skirmishing constantly and everyone have kills and deaths in the double digits it’s no surprise the guy who gains stacks and extra damage to lone targets thrives in such a low skill low team play environment Outside of newbieland most players know not to 1v1 drifter and games don’t go on for 55 minutes on average so he’s only somewhat OP
>>537972274People have honestly forgotten when Haze had a black sounding voice. She unironically had an update that give her a more white sounding voice
>Vypers VA is a hot blonde womanI kneel
>>538012420I'm in shitlow and he isnt even strong here. Nobody farms so there's like maybe 2 times a game you find someone alone to drag into your rape vortex
>>537972274Paradox is black too btw
>>538012683Source?
>>538012775she is more grey
>>538012784>>537995597
>>538012420He was smacking people even while we were grouped up though. He was basically drain-tanking us even through anti-heal until all 3 of us finally scaled into late game and started shredding him. But even then sometimes he'd just multi-kill a teamfight anyway cause of Warden, Calico and Dynamo being useless
>>538011693>"Gragh, when do i only have 300 people playing and the game basically gets canned and left on the backburner so i can do a big dirty shit in my britches while raging at the company for abandoning the game that lacks reason to work on"Lol beats me, cuckadoodle dickhead
Who's Paradox? Is she a woman? Does she have a face under the helmet? Can she be impregnated?
>>538013443yes
>>538013443she would rather die than sleep with you
>Meanwhile, in Arcanist
>>538013542not a good look for beboptards...
>>538013141Maybe try attack rate slow instead of antiheal since unless you have both decay and healbane on and instantly kill him it's really not doing that much. Plus i'm not sure if antiheal even stops siphon bullets at all
>>538011378dude, it's making me so mad trying to teamfight with these cretins. i'm going back to splitpushing with ivy. at least then we take ONE walker before we lose.
>>538013443Yes, yes, yes. She's a Scottish woman
>>538013443She's a scottish chick wearing a fishbowl on her head and I'm NOT kidding
>finally figured out how to use mina's ult>have no interest in the ult buildah well
>ultmaxxing support drifter focusing on duration with refresherwoke or broke?
>>538013378i really dont give a fuck, kys subhuman
>>538014159This is the gayest shit I've seen in this thread, and there's literal gay porn posted
>>538014662You're just upset you didn't think of it first, so I'll accept your concession
>>538014159probably op as fuck desu
>>538014735No by all means, feel free to use it in every game, just don't be on my team ok
I grow tired of Victor
>>538014939>base duration at rank 5 is 9 sec>with 3200g you can get it to 12.33 sec>with refresher you can have three enemy targets blinded for 24 and a half seconds>also spirit gives you free damage while your ult is up because why notJust explain why this wouldn't crush pubs even harder than driftoid normally does
>>538015149Enemy heroes can still deal damage while blinded. They cannot deal damage while dead. Perhaps making them dead is a more viable approach
is vyper back on the menu?
>>538013443yesyes a scottish woman, so another ginger (not a problem)yesno, i already did it
>>538015249>Perhaps making them dead is a more viable approachThat's why you blind them, so they can't see what's going on or react to situations appropriately, thus severely hindering their efforts to defend themselves, making it much easier to make them dead, particularly if your team has good heroes who work outside melee range
>>538015384>>538014017>>538013848Source?
A new kind of items that show up in a new tab like Weapon, Health and Spirit do right now.They are insanely broken and game changing.They become available only when you unlock all flex slots.They are all very expensive, you will have to sell some of your previous items to buy them.Each of them take 4 flex slots in a 2x2 grid.What do you think about this idea?
>>538015569Her conversations with Haze and HollidayWhen Haze asks her if she stole some specific object, she retorts that, as a Scottish woman, she doesn't give a fuck about American artifacts. Meanwhile, Holliday mocks her for wearing a fishbowl on her head and asks her if she wears it all the time, which she casually denies
Why did they fucking nerf Holiday? She was perfect as is.
>>538015569
>>538014973bro your toxic bullets
>>538016058>*presses 2*NEEDED A LITTLE PICK-ME-UP
Is it me or knockdown is the solution to many heroes>>538016105you just repplay it then? Which champ you usally play?
>>538016176>*presses 2 again*GONNA FEEL THAT FOR A WHILE
>>538016248for christ sake DIE
>try to be a team player>lose>push lanes to walker and shoot walker until i die, on repeat>wini'm never joining a teamfight again. it's so pointless to fight when you can just use the fight as a distraction to actually win the game
>>5380157586400 active items are already busted, but you keep just buying boundless spirit
>>538016462Thanks for your input 424
Man is there anything worse than the game deciding not only is it time to lose your 50/50 coinflip for matchmaking, but making sure you are the worst person on the team to boot?
>>538005767It's funny with Magic carpet
>>538015938paradox should have a thicker accent, like horizon, to match her thighs
>>538005767it's the only green item mina should buy
>>537995938It's a terrible-paying job. At least be passionate if you're going to be making less than a manager at Walmart.
>>538015758make it a consumableit lasts five minutes and gibes you a massive buff of everything (move and sprint speed, weapon and spirit damage, regen, resistances, cd, range, duration, etc)costs 12k souls, meant to close a game that has gone on for 40+ minutes
>>538015149So you will dedicate your build to mildly inconveniencing the enemy team instead of killing it? Well do whatever your heart says, as long as I get to charge and beat you up afterwards
>>538005767sometimes i buy it on rat ivy if my team is specially worthless and the enemies don't have stuns, you can just press 4 and fuck off for free
>play at 4 am, cheaters>play at 4 pm, cheatersback to this again huh.
>>538005021What build do you use?
How are bebop bros finding him right now? I found the hookspeed nerfs to be a final straw but he just got some buffs.
>>538017602Get a job
>>538017483i may steal this idea for my rat ivyhonestly i have no idea how to win game outside of splitpushing. it seems like no matter what character i play, it's ALWAYS better to just build gun and shoot the walker until someone comes and kills me.and even then, i die to take yellow walker, and we lose green walker to minions. The more I play the less i understand. I get punished for severely for going for vending machines than for taking two walkers by myself. I don't fucking get it.
>mina buffed>it didn't help her one fucking bit
>>538017945why even call it S tier at that point
>>538017945Wanna swap? I get tranny aim Minas who go 11/0 in 15 minutes
>>538018019it's based off statsall of those heroes probably have above a given winrate
>>538018019because there's only been 3k matches recorded in those ranks since the patch
>>538017945Try looking with a sample size higher than 3k
>>538017945>bebop S tier>pocket in C and Billy in D>3 of the new guys in FAm I taking crazy pills?
I cant imagine being a loser who cares about tier lists, git gud and you will perform on any character
>>538018126>nobody wants to play the hotpoo heroesdust off that resume bucko
>>538017945No amount of buffs will aid noskill coomer trash trourists
>>538014159Good if your team isn't retarded and the enemies refuse to get divine barrier but refresher is overkill
lol, game's already dying again
>>538014159It would honestly be pretty good. His ult is seriously that annoying. That being said I don't think it has much legs beyond the ult. What other synergies would you even have with his kit? are you gonna supportmax with like inhibitor or some shit?
>>538018406do doomers have object permanencepattern recognition doko
>>538018406no shit?
>>538017823Hybrid healer + ult focusThe main purchases are>Health Nova -> Trophy Collector -> Locket -> Vortex -> Echo on True Form -> max cooldown, reach, duration in that orderSkills are>2 points each in True Form and Kudzu Bomb (in that order)>max bomb>max either ult or tether depending on whether you think a silence is urgently needed
>>538018465the peak keeps decreasing albeit
>>538018406managing to hold 50k people that entire period and only losing 10k people as of lately is really good
>>538018525I'll try that out, thank you.
>>538018406shan't play League
>>538018304look at the rank
>>538018406>casuals and tourists are leavingAbout time
>mina is shit>YOU JUST DONT HAVE AIM LOL TOURIST>mina is shit at eternus>REEEEEE YOU HAVE NO AIM REEEEEEEEEEE AHHHHHHHHHH MOMMY VALVE PLEASEEE HELP ME KILL THIS TOURISTlol
>>538018851Don't care, all Mina players are subhuman
>>538019072who are you replying to
mina is op because she killed me in my last game
>>538019165Me. I'm replying to me.
i'm noticing a trend of the most vocal mina haters getting triggered and also wanting the game to die and have 500 people playing before it gets shutdown in december...
>Mina getting so much hate focus >meanwhile Paige is worseHuh...
>>538019194This is unironically my thought processI lose to gunbop? Gunbop is good. Simple as
>>538019314Don't worry: the nerftroons do this in every game.They're also currently pretending that Helldivers 2 was better when ot had 5,000 players and Sony was threatening to pull the plug.They want every game to be their little secret discord club.Thankfully they keep losing.
>>538019072Out of many schizos in /dlg/, this mina hater is the most confusing one. It's like he believes he can gaslight everyone into hating mina by endless seething and lying.
>>53801900699% of the playerbase of any healthy game are casuals, perma ranking bums don't put in nearly as much money as casuals so games without casuals die and become discord circlejerks.
How do I build Paradox?
Yeah I know I was shit, but this game was so fucking stacked. Our seven was playing his 2nd game ever and I had no idea what the mo and krill was doing in lane. What in the fuck is this matchmaking guys? I thought you said this game was good
>6 minutes in the lane phase >6 hits and 741 dmg from Love Bites
Just ward her jungle
>>538019804>seven’s second game>dealt x2 more damage than you Anon…
>>538019657There's a vast diference between people who couldn't care less about rank and OW/lol tourists baited by a pandering character. Do you really think most of these players will tolerate a game this autistic and unfinished? Please.I'll be happy to never see another 2/13 clueless Mina with 0 macro sense and 0 obj damage again, at least until the next upd. Even if it means doomerags here will start screeching about muh tf2 or muh artifact or whatever.
I hope they add more shit to do that isn't brooling or hitting buildings
>>538020220okay so you literally just want the game to die so you can go back to being an autistic neckbeard in tf2 and dota
>>538020286Bro the goombling machines??
>>538019705damage (gun) and speed
>>538020405I only see spiritual carabin paradoxes in the wild
>>538020050Yeah I played like shit I won't deny I got tilted and stopped trying
>>538018406call me when its dead dead like paladins
>>538020346MORE
>Buy tankbuster>Buy mystic reverb>Buy spirit burnNice game, deadlards
What do I do when my co-laner is more retarded than me ?
>>538017945holy shit victor got NUKED
>>538020346They unironically ruined the 'lock
>>538020220Why are you in low elo that you can see new players?
>>538020583>all that networth on purplemy homeless bestie and his fed gf are on their way to your location
Not gonna lie I don't see what value walking around hitting boxes and shit adds to the game. It feels like the definition of busy work. Like do people really watch high level play and go>OH WHAT A HECKIN PLAY HE STEPPED AWAY FROM LANE FOR 3 SECONDS TO HIT 3 BOXES OH SO FUCKING HYPE
>>538020757>watchmost people think the game is for playing
>>538020757no, you are just a dumbfuck retard for having that conclusion
>>538018638Godspeed mate. Just be aware that it completely removes your agency in a losing game. You have ZERO carry potential and ZERO manfight potential when you're running a build like this - basically your only option when you're caught alone is to escape with flight (not ideal, puts it on cooldown) or to scramble to the nearest ally.Having said that, you can crush the absolute fuck out of teamfights. Ult grenade + Vortex Web + Kudzu Bomb + double stun will lock down often 2 or 3 enemies for 5 - 6 seconds, dealing decent spirit damage the whole way. Joining a fight in progress like this also puts you in an ideal position to use your Health Nova.Also, your mobility is high enough as Ivy that you can gank almost on cooldown in the early-midgame. Just make sure you mic up to call out where you're going and make sure people are ready for you, co-ordination is key when you're useless on your own. And make sure you have a fucking Kudzu Bomb ready, don't fly if there's not at least one bomb up, ideally two
>>538020685you buy trophy collector and leave
>>538020757It's actually jungling without busy work. Hitting box is better than shooting neutrals. Both are boring ngl.
>>538020852clearly not based on the player count and the emphasis on esports lmfao
>>538019804>What in the fuck is this matchmaking guys? I thought you said this game was goodWell, what rank are you? There's occasional anomalies, and people will always have blowout games even up to eternus. But most people end up where they deserve eventually, and new players/deranked returners generally start out fairly low
>>538020757this black person doesn't buy any movement speed item. Buy Fortitude my melanin enriched fella and you shall see the truth
>>538021043Boxes are more out of the way than neutrals and you have to physically pick up their drops instead of just getting them for killing shit
>>537973650>305 stackswow... Mina fags are truly desperate
viscous is SPIDER MAN???
>>538020730I would simply use my enduring speed and fortitude to be elsewhere
>>538000846At least he got to pick what race to play instead of queuing for Mid and support and getting Jungle.
>>538019705Full spirit, focus on bomb, buy slowing hex and vortex web, buy alch fireJust toss your cooldowns to the general direction of an objective and watch the kills flow in
>>538021040That's not a bad idea. The lane is lost anyway so why not.
monster rounds into the upgraded version feels like bait but im only a brown rank fag
>refuse to group anywhere near the support so you can jungle instead>cry that their support items don't do much>convince yourself that support is bad actually and not youKEK
>>538021351M round is great starter. Cult sacrifice is a neat bonus and it multiplies the soul gain from the active kill by 2.5 so an early red monster gives you 800. It's good if you struggle or play macginnis because it boosts ur turrets
>>538021081what enfasis on esports are you talking about?
>>538020757I agree with this guy.The game is more about farming & less about strategy or skill play.Someone with a 10k souls advantage shouldn't be destroying you like a bitch and snowball from there.
>>538021351>insta gib troops>wave pushes up>hit guardian>kill guardian>win lane
>>538020492Gun is just more fun
>>538021471A bunch of mechanics that nobody would ever ask for that only exist for some meme of skill expression (Aka we want you to jerk off and watch the game instead of playing it)Nobody who plays FPS or mobas would ever be like>You know what I want? Fucking punching boxes and picking up mario party powerusps instead of fighting other people
>>537974604>something powerfulyeah like end the game on a full HP patron through backdoor protection. that kind of breaks the game do you not think retard??
>>538021213Takes more time to shoot neutrals than sliding pass some boxes.
>>538021627>Nobodyeverybody actually. except you
>>538021082I avoid ranked precisely because of games like this. I hate sweats
there's too many ranks
>>538020296Don't be such a drama queen, the game didn't die at 20k players nor will it die at 40k players.
>>537971632>>Ult tickles, it can be useful sometimes>Ult tickles, it can be useful sometimes>Ult tickles, it can be useful sometimes>Ult tickles, it can be useful sometimes>Ult tickles, it can be useful sometimes>Ult tickles, it can be useful sometimes
>>538021707It's kind of boring busywork but I don't mind it as downtime where I don't have to think
this game is so fun bros.
Vyper got a little buff? Not much but I'll take what I can get for my wife
>>538020757He's a bit lost but he is right, the only good neutral obj RN are the lets go gamblin' machines
>>538020757Ummmmmm it shows skill expression
>>538021949stupid fat ugly stupid snake
>>537971632her kit is fun as fuckumbrella executing is fun. man fighting in the middle of an enemy creep wave and getting a second health bar is hilariousturning into bats and cucking a wraith ult literally never gets old and it's a super fun ability in generallove bites just feels good to use and it's a huge kick in the head for the early and mid gameher ult is an annoying meme I'll give you that
>>538019705You either build for bomb, which is full spirit and actually kind of annoying for the enemy teamOr you do something actually useful and build around carbine/wall and actually be an asset to your team that can make an impact. Remember that Paradox's carbine builds off of gun damage first.
>>538021949What an ugly pic
>>538022038Sounds like someone didn't get violently constricted on Staten island.
All Mina players are trannies who are part of the "aim community"
>>538022251holy kek what a build
>>537972985not even that is good anymore they raped CDs, range, healing booster, rescue beam HP %like they honestly just tried to rape every last play style ivy has. she is legitimately only playable with decent-good teams and if you have shitters you just auto lose. you cannot carry.
predictions on where I'll peak
>Queued against a smurf 6 stack>The average lobby rank for them was Oracle vs my team which was ArcanistWhat the fuck are these devs doing? Why am I against a 6 stack of people way higher elo than me?
>>538023028oracle 7
Is Doorman supposed to be a support hero? How does one build him?
not with that dogshit bullet spreadheadshots are practically guessing
>>538023085they need to put solo queue back into the game. it's so fucking miserable playing against entire stacks when the best the game can give you is a bunch of draft dodging niggers in ukraine/russia
>play some bot games>feel like im getting it>hop into a match>everyone builds every movespeed item>come mid game I can't hit anyoneI hate shooters
There's nothing wrong with TF2
why the fuck do people want counter pickingare they stupid?
TF2 has been alive longer than deadwatch will be. Not even trying to be mean or a doomer but tf2 has been sround longer than some of you fans have been alive
>>538023127He is a nuker, bell + cart is how you kill people. Portals for the unmatched utility and to confuse retards. Ult whenever some fed enemy hoe thinks he is a server admin
>>538023127nah he's a dmg dealer. See him as a trickster which baits people into chasing his grabbable hips. He spams doorbell then pushes people into a portal next to his tower then TPs them to wonderland
>>538023426>no draft>meme picks and busted heroes coin toss games I love the outcome of the match being decided by matchmaking
Titanfall is a nice game, we need wallruns from it as well
>>538023426>>538023570I had a game the other day where we had 5 supports on the team vs team fight rape wombo combo.
>>538023570>I love the outcome of the match being decided by matchmakingNobody tell him.
>>538023649In a game like that you can just build shit like gun dynamo and still have a good chance of winning if your team is better. The worse thing that happens in when you have 6 characters with no CC abilities vs. 6 characters with CC abilities.
>>538023426>Enemy team has all CC while yours has none>Enemy team has all tanks (hey, who half of happen to have CC too!) while yours is fully of squishies and supports>Enemy team cucks half of your teams abilities
I like duoing with my friend as Doorman and Mo & KrillI door them and then when they finally get out they get krill ulted and I ISIS execute them
>>538023930>>538023649>>538023570>first pick locks in dynamo>second pick locks in sinclairepic gameplay!
>>538009237debuff spreader build with alch fire
>>538024359>implying anyone wants to play sinclairLmao good joke buddy.
New Snake>>538024409>>538024409>>538024409
>>538024460>>538024460>>538024460
>>538024359>get to a round where you can ban + pick something>ban sinclair>pick dynamowowee drafting is hard yaaaawn
>>538024507this one
>>538024359>be a retard>get punishedreally makes you think
>>538024507Sorry, Vindictoid. Maybe next time.
>>538024501>>538024507Snake was technically earlier but I'm tired of seeing that scaly shit
>>538020757Boxes reward thought out movement, aside from the boxes in places like subway or mid that are an objective of its own. Boxes let you gain an advantage in lane by timing creep waves, or choosing to move a route with boxes instead of moving as quickly as possible. It's also something to do during downtime. Why remove them?
>>538020757It gives you more objectives to juggle instead of permapushing whatever tower you happened to be assigned at the start
>>538024501EYUP snake wife won
>>538024501Kys furfag, making any animal heroes was a mistake
>>538023649This game doesn't have 5 supportsYou can just build Dynamo, Paige, and Ivy as rapists if your team needs more damage.
>>538024856It makes annoying fags like yourself cry so I say we need more.
>>538021949Holy fat ass Vyper
>>538018176WR will not be indicative of actual character skill and character power. Also tiny sample size and in general just people trying new champs will make their wr low
