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Pedophile general.
https://files.catbox.moe/91omou.mp4First for things that wont be finished
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>>538023136Not going to click your shitty fangames
Maria wasn't really the greatest person...
Shadow x Maria forever! *: .｡. o(≧▽≦)o .｡.:*~.`○,°¤.~`*•,°.○*~¤.`*~.`○,°¤.~`*•,°.○*~¤.`*~
>>538023368Good thing its not that, then.
>>538023382She raped Shadow repeatedly aboard the ARK.
>>538023032Holy sovl
>>538023382Oh, we stealing from Undertale. Neat.
>>538023048I hope my fellow Tailsfag can appreciate this thread
>>538023048>/sthg/ #10000 Project Threadhttps://pastebin.com/Fb8Bt4ru
>>538023548Kingdom Valley is one of the best areas in any Sonic game ever and perfectly represents the series
>>538023420WHERE THE FUCK IS ZEENA
>>538022936Yes, we get it. You're a Classic era fan. I'm sure the 2010s was amazing for you since it was non-stop Classic pandering.
>>538023724...
>>538023609Have you ever thought about a world where everything is exactly the same...Except you don't exist?Everything functions perfectly without you...Ha, ha... The thought terrifies me.
>>538023609>stealing>referenceSonicfags don't know the difference
>>538023876And his opinion is wrong...why? He is still a Sonic fan like you, or the only opinion that matters is of the people that agree with you?
Uh... good morning, /sthg/
>>538023048Tails is a boy
>>538023876Those people aren't even true classic fans, they just like their misconceptions and Meta Era Classic Sonic. True classic fans are familiar with the original Japanese material from the 90s and appreciate it.>>538024049He doesn't have to like them, but making posts like that is obnoxious. Most of us don't treat the Meta Era like that even though we have problems with it. Go enjoy those games if you want.
>>538024068Morning.
>>538023169>the question didn't get answeredFigures
>>538024191>True classic fans are familiar with the original Japanese material from the 90s and appreciate it.So the only fans are people who didn't grow with that content and went out of their way to research that material in-depth? That doesn't sound fair.
>>538023876No the games are just bad sorry. This conspiracy theory that there was a coordinated effort to shit on modern Sonic isn't real
>>538024131A Boywife
>>538024068I'm hungry
reposting>>538020654Nah. Every story Maekawa writes is shlock; he relies too heavily on pre-existing works, tropes, "aura", one-liners, and dramatic framing to do the emotional heavy lifting. The stories themselves are strung together by themes and motifs that give the impression its deep but has nothing to do with the narrative. SA2 has the same problem; the entire Sonic/ Shadow rivalry >>538015618 has fuckall to do with the actual story. Compare SA2 to movie 3 which actually connects Sonic and Shadow's rivalry back to Longclaw and Maria. That's what a coherent narrative looks like.
>>538001610>>538001749>>538021612>Tails and Amy get closer over their teen years, and in young adulthood realize what they wanted was always right in front of them>Amy suddenly dies tragically>Tails is depressed for a long while, having lost both Fiona to her vices and Amy to fate>An unexpected acquaintance sees this happening and urges him to snap out of it-Mina- telling him he has so much to offer the world>They slowly fall in love, realize they're both single and have lost others, and can fill the void the other's missing>whynot.gif>Mina lifts Tails out of his depression and marries him, third time's the charm after all.
>>538024435Secret Rings was almost entirely rewritten by the game's director Yojiro Ogawa. Ogawa probably thought Maekawa's original script was trashI'm not saying that realism never existed in Sonic. However 06 was literally created with the idea of Sonic living in the real world. Nothing about 06 comes across as "surreal" it's just set pieces that don't look 100% realistic because they're from a fucking video game dude. The actual aesthetic and artstyle reminds me more of GTA and Final Fantasy than actual Sonic games.
>>538024472It is perfectly fair. That's what a fan IS. Someone so passionate and dedicated that he wants to know and understand everything about the thing he loves, to degrees that seem unreasonable to nonfans. If you stop at a misconception and move to something else you are objectively not a fanatic of the thing you claim to like, and you should shut up if actual fans correct you on something you are wrong about.
>>538024537Shut up Nicole, you can toggle dick/vagina at will and we all know Sally puts you in dickmode in private.
>>538024473You clearly weren't around in the 2000s
>>538025070>in private.More like in public.What are the plebs going to do about it?
>>538024678He came from a game that is better than 06
>>538024809I ended up liking the changes the movies have done to the characters, in their own way obviously. Making Knuckles an active character looking for the Master Emerald rather than just being tricked. I know it's a cartoon series but Knuckles seemingly growing up alone but knowing his purpose or how to speak always bugged me. Shouldn't realistically Knuckles be like how Sticks is potrayed in Boom?And Sonic and Shadow having a connection over both losing someone important to them, with Sonic himself relating to what Shadow went through, is much less contrived than the games, where Shadow is motivated by fake memories and convinced by this random girl just pleading to him. The only character I feel is somewhat inferior is Tails. I think I still prefer the original backstory over him being Jimmy Neutron.
>>538025259But a forgetable game that no cares about
>>538024861Maekawa said Ogawa rewrote about half of the story after he (Maekawa) wrote the first draft.>Ogawa probably thought Maekawa's original script was trashYou're making shit up. They simply worked on the game together.
>>538025390So true..
>>538025259This is complete delusion.>>538025390If it was a "better" game people would actually like it. They don't.
>>538009993
>>538024038It's called hyperbole, big guy.
Do NOT open /sthg/.
Why is Sonic Adventure 2 so beloved?
>>538024068Goodmorning, anon.
>>538026123Because it's objectively the peak of the series.
>>538025259Lost World is awful. It's probably outright the worst Sonic entry in the series since it's desperately trying to copy Super Mario Galaxy and Sonic X-Treme at the same time with a story that you would find on Nickoloden.
>>538024836What if Tails was the one who died in Light Mobius instead of Amy?
>>538026123It's fun.
>>538023161>as it means I have to settle for less than a good product just because it has some things I likeSo you only play video games that you consider "perfect"? If anything that's how you get locked to playing the first game you enjoyed and never trying anything else. And how do you even know that you find them perfect before even giving them a chance first hand? When I actually, finally played 2006 and Unleashed I found that there were things I didn't know about that I enjoyed, or didn't know I was going to enjoy, and also some things that I didn't know I was going to dislike. It is much more nuanced than you're making it out to be. When I'll be done enjoying these games, I'll enjoy some other games (and maybe from time to time even go back to the things I like from the games I've already played). I think this is the most reasonable and sane approach instead of making yourself miserable waiting for your "ideal Sonic game" that will never exist. I am a fan of this series, so I'd rather enjoy the games that exist, instead of crying about "missed potential" all the time. There is no advantage to closing yourself off like that, especially to the works of developers you already know you enjoy
>>538026103I have spoilers disabled...
>>538025390Better to be mid and forgotten than having your grave spat upon whenever someone speaks your name
>>538026125cute gata, anon
TailsxAmy was never going to be a thing and never will be a thing.You can keep dreaming though.
>>538026252I haven't played the PC version yet, so I want to trust that Kishimoto at least managed to put in some fun 2D platforming given that I enjoy Colors. But every other aspect is very bad. It's crazy that this game has a 3DS version with all the same flaws AS WELL as complete dogshit gameplay, controls, power ups, and level design. People who say Sonic 2006 is one of the worst games have never touched Lost World 3DS, they have no idea how bad things can actually get. I doubt they've played Classic Sonic in Forces either, that might be even worse, his final stage in the game is complete garbage and worse than literally anything in 2006. At least the rest of Forces is decentish
>>538023715I love Tails
¡Ay! You're the kitten princess, eh? Me encantaría vestirte...
Bringing this back https://files.catbox.moe/sdsh4l.mp4
They removed this IDW reference to the Metal Virus in from the JP script:>"voice_zav_ready_movie_first_to_sil_rival": "You will not get in the way of my conquests again, boy. Whether in a race or in warfare, my pride demands victory.">"voice_zav_ready_movie_first_to_sil_rival": "レース場も 戦場も等しく 俺の遊び場に過ぎん\nキサマのちっぽけな未来に 絶望をくれてやろう" (The racetrack and the battlefield are equally nothing but my playgrounds. I'll give you despair for your tiny future.)
Sonaze = VergilSonurge = Dante
I played Sonic Labyrinth and I can conclusively say imho that 06 is still the worst Sonic game.At least Lost World can run properly and doesn't crash or get stuck on loading screens every 3 or 4 hours. Most people nowadays play 06 on an emulator which makes the loading times faster and prevents crashing for the most part.None of you guys played 06 on launch day with original 360 hardware and it shows. Yall are spoiled.
>>538027291.....what?
>>538023548>>538023724TRVKE
>>538026667I don't care what people think of me. I'm going to do my best and what I think is good and right to the best of my knowledge, no matter how much people will try to push back against me. That is absolutely better than to be a forgotten criminal or a forgotten slave to people who go against me
>>538027280I don't really know much about the metal virus thing that happpened in idw but are you sure is a reference? like both eng and jp mentions battle in one way or another
>>538027280Why is Sonic JP script and EN script so vastly different? What the fuck is wrong with communication? Are there any games like this?
>>538027246Which Tails does Honey find the hottest?
>>538027689Colors, Lost World, and Frontiers are all like this
Douge
>>538027280Metal Virus WAS the moment that any Japanese enthusiasm for IDW flickered out.
Englishbig: I don't like folks who are mean to my friends.zavok: I sense a tremendous power behind those words. Am I feeling... fear!?Japanesebig: I'm not very good with bullies, you know...zavok: Such composure in my presence... Just what in the world are you!?
Being a fan for this franchise is suffering.
>>538027280>Metal VirusIt's referencing Forces.
>>538027719Nine
>>538027654Its a reference to how Silver and Sonic beat Zavok in the Metal Virus, that's pretty much it. Prior to this they never met, well unless you count TSR but it wasn't really like Silver specifically was a thorn in his side there.>>538027689Because JP is true to the characters while EN is just Sonic Team letting Ian do what he wants so long as it sells.
Golden Era>Sonic 1>Sonic 2>Sonic CD (Sonic 2 JP)>Sonic 3 & Knuckles>Sonic Adventure>Sonic Adventure 2Slop era>Sonic Heroes>Shadow the Hedgehog 05>Sonic 06>Sonic and the Secret Rings>Sonic and the Black KnightHedgehog Engine Kino Trilogy era>Sonic Unleashed>Sonic Colors>Sonic GenerationsHedgehog Engine Slop era>Sonic Lost World>Sonic Forces>Sonic Frontiers
>>538027910Why? Is it his edgelord personality?
I don't want to convince you this game is good. I just want you to shut the fuck up about things you don't know, understand, or care about. We know you don't like it, we know you don't want to play it, we know you aren't interested in it beyond shitting on it on a surface level. I do not give a fuck. I just want to talk about the game, and you're getting in the way of that because you can't handle the fact that there are people who enjoy it
>>538027896Not if you like Sonic
>>538027749No I mean are there any games with vastly different script like this
>>538027909Zavok wasn't in Forces, nor did he fight Infinite's Zavok illusion to begin with.
Is Sonic Prime worth watching?
Englishcream: M-Mother said to be on my best behavior, so... good luck in the race, Mr. Zavok.zavok: How adorable. Civility is a brittle thing, child. Watch how quickly it disappears in the heat of the moment!Japanesecream: So, the red oni is my opponent... I ask that we have a fair and square match!zavok: Hmph. You have quite a tongue for a mere child. While we're at it, I shall also educate you on the meaning of "despair."
>>538027892>I sense a tremendous power behind those words. Am I feeling... fear!?There's no way Zavok said this.
>>538026667Most people can have an civilized nuanced discussion about 06 without acting like shit flinging autists
>>538027892This reminds me of the Mephiles defeat dialogue in Shadow Gens. In English he sounds pathetic and afraid, begging for his life, while in Japanese he sounds angry and desperate. Ian seems to be unable to write uncharacteristic moments for characters in a way that still feels plausible for their character.
>>53802807806 will never die
>>538028140Yes, the ones that I mentioned. I do not remember Lost World well since I haven't checked the cutscenes in years, but Colors and Frontiers are extremely different, complete opposites at times
>>538028078I played it. It's terrible, unfun, garbage, and you deserve to be shunned from the broader community for enjoying it.Adventure Babies, as always, are unwelcome.
>>538026662
Every single music track in the network test was fucking amazing.How did Jun Senoue do it, bros?
>>538028053Yes
EnglishZavok:Who is this ponderous oaf? How did he wander into the event? Step aside. You're in the way of my inevitable victory.Big:We already raced together, did you forget? That's okay. I don't remember you either!JapaneseZavok: Out of my way, you oaf! Is that calm expression a sign of confidence, or are you simply mocking my presence? I can't make sense of you.Big: Calm down~ I just want to be friends with everyone.
>>538028153No. The pacing is really bad as it kept showing flashbacks and besides a few nicely animated fight scenes it's just so boring overall. Sonic is also very insufferable here
There are some things 06 did that I liked. The cutscenes were weirdly very well shot and co-ordinates the mocap was uncanny at times but did give some of the scenes more personality. It was good that ST at the time was seemingly trying to get Shadow to move on from past trauma and take control over his own destiny rather than living for the past. Mephiles could have been a Darkseid level threat in the universe if treated better and Solaris is a cool concept for a villain.I'm sure I could try to remember other tidbits of stuff I like but the vast majority of everything else is garbage tho.
>>538028147>nor did he fight Infinite's Zavok illusionDo you think Silver and everyone else did one thing in those entire 6 months? They don't reference IDW events in the game so it's not a Metal Virus reference. It's a reference to Silver most likely encountering Zavok during the events of Forces.
>>538028078You can find people here easily that want to discuss the writing of the game, sometimes in good faith. The gameplay is where you will have a hard time getting decent discussion
Official English DialogueZazz: WOO! You're a big one! I gotta get you in a sumo match with Zomom! Hahaha!Big: Oh? Is he nice? Maybe we can after I win this race.Relocalized Japanese DialogueZazz: WHOA! What's with this huge guy!? You'd be a great match for Zomom! Hahahahaha!Big: Is he your friend~? Friends are nice, aren't they~
>>538026123Chao garden.
Official English DialogueZazz: You're supposed to be royalty, right? WOO! Time for a coup, baby! Row Row! Fight the power!Blaze: Your mindless anarchy will not shake my resolve, nor stir the hearts of any people. My victory today is assured!Relocalized Japanese DialogueZazz: With a puny flame like that, you couldn't even toast a marshmallow! Go on back to your castle before you embarrass yourself! HYAHAHAHA!Blaze: The provocations of someone lacking all courtesy have no effect on me. Sorry, but I don't see myself losing to you.
>>538028379Why do you always out yourself with Sally images?
>>538028325SA1 and SA2 were Iizuka's passion projects. Iizuka was the one who conceived of it as a "Sonic RPG". And the inspiration from games like Final Fantasy 7>3&K level designer>Nights into Dreams lead game designer>3D Blast Saturn special stages designer>SA1 & SA2 directorHeroes nearly killed Iizuka and he was inspired by Jak II to make Shadow. That's two games he worked on which were critical flops and were victims of the Sonic cycle.Heroes was so rushed Iizuka slept at the office and nearly died making it and the team at STI was burned out and barely cared making Shadow. Development moved back to Japan for 06 and SR and Iizuka became less involved.In a way, Xbox is a continuation of the Dreamcast. Sega had to switch from a SA1/SA2 proprietary engine to Renderware to get Heroes running on a PS2 because Sony effectively forced them at gunpoint. Shadow, on the other hand, was made by an indifferent team with no passion left. Iizuka was phoning in here>Heroes : first multiplatform entry. Tries to appeal to newcomers, Adventure fans and Classic fans, resulting in a very broad game>Shadow : first character spin off in a while. Iizuka played too much Jak 2 and Ratchet 2, wanted to use the scrapped branching path system from SA2, plus appeal exclusively to western playersIizuka just didn't have it in him anymore. He had been working on nothing but Sonic games since Christmas Nights in late 1996 and almost died making Heroes. Heroes got crunched so badly Iizuka (who was the level designer for Heroes) stopped eating for weeks until he got his part of the project done. Shadow the hedgehog exists because he played Jak III while recovering and learning how to eat again. Naka didn't care anymore either, having been reduced to an executive producing or chief producing many games per year, his days as programmer behind him
>>538028559>We already raced together, did you forget? That's okay. I don't remember you either!This line doesn't even make sense. Even in the most generous reading it sounds like Big is being uncharacteristically petty with Zavok, something I don't even think Big knows how to do.
>>538028740It's a false-flagging tactic. He's been doing this for years now.
EnglishBlaze: I came here looking for spirited competition, not mindless violence. Can you actually provide a civil contest?Zazz: "Civil contest"!? Who cares about that!? If anything, you're the one who's not fired up enough!JapaneseBlaze: As long as you're participating as a racer, I won't tolerate any disrespectful behavior! Understand? You will aim for the goal with fairness and integrity!Zazz: Who cares about "fairness and integrity"!? You're the one who needs to get more fired up!
>>538028078Lmao, look at this faggot. You want to talk about the game? Fine. Let's talk about it. Let's talk about how Yuji Naka, Maekawa, and the rest of those hacks at Sonic Team fundamentally do not understand Sonic the Hedgehog.You're defending the game that turned Sonic, the living embodiment of 90s American attitude and rebellion, into a bland, stiff mannequin for some generic princess. This is the guy who's supposed to have Bill Clinton's freewheeling energy, and they have him playing second fiddle in his own goddamn game. It's pathetic.You don't "enjoy" it. You've just been so thoroughly brainwashed by the Japanese take on the character that you think this slop is a gourmet meal. You probably think Tails is some tech nerd instead of a cool little bro who just wants to be like Sonic. You probably think Knuckles is just some gullible idiot instead of the embodiment of conservative Authority that provides a necessary contrast to Sonic's rebellious spirit.You want to talk about the game? Let's talk about how it's a broken, unfinished mess that represents the absolute death of the character's soul, a direct result of letting the Japanese team run wild without any Western supervision. It's the kind of weakness that lets our enemies walk all over us.Go ahead, "talk about the game." Tell us more about how you love the game where Sonic dies and gets kissed back to life by a human. We're all waiting. You're not a fan, you're a victim with Stockholm Syndrome. Now shut the fuck up while the adults talk about real Sonic.
>>538028390
>>538026451>So you only play video games that you consider "perfect"? Of course not, many of the games I play and enjoy are flawed. But I believe Sonic 06 is too flawed for me to enjoy it.I had a miserable experience playing that game because it was just so broken; the story makes my head hurt due to all the plot holes and the characters just being lame and uninteresting. I didn't play 06 until years later, like around 2014 I think.Sorry for the delay, I was busy at work.
>>538028607What part of "Zavok wasn't in Forces" do you not get? The real Zavok never showed up in that game nor was it implied he did, Silver would have never met him so Zavok wouldn't have any reason to reference past events he wasn't even there for.
<- Full of fox cum
>>538028767You said the same 3 things like half a dozen times here. You people need to learn what a rough draft is, your last paragraph is literally all this post should be.
>>538028221You can check for yourself
>>538028734I had to check to ensure this was fake because I have zero doubt in my mind Ian has never watched Gurren Lagann.
>>538028379As I said, I don't care. Everyone already knows you don't like the game. You have nothing to add to the discussion. Almost every time I try to talk it one of you morons comes in telling me you don't want me to play the game or whatever. I don't care what you like or dislike, I don't care what you want me to do or not to do.>>538028631I know, ever since I started playing the game about 14 months ago I only managed to have two good faith discussions about the gameplay. I prefer my posts getting ignored over some dumbass going "um why are you playing the game don't you know that >>>>>I<<<<< don't like it?" I DO NOT GIVE A FUCK. I play and enjoy what I want. Fuck off>>538028942This is a fair response, and I do not mind late replies. Personally I enjoyed it, although that depends on the stage and character. Some stages and characters are awful. I think Sonic's stages are solid for the most part, especially after getting the upgrades and getting used to maneuver around the glitches (just like in Sonic Adventure lol, people are so used to the glitches there that they understate how hard it is to enjoy for first time players)
>>538029124You can tell Ian wouldn't like Gurren Lagann because of how he treats kid characters. He'd HATE Simon for taking over Kamiya's role.
real
>>538024047I thought he was pushing her head down and forcing her to suck his cock
>>538027689It's all Colors' fault, possibly egged on by 4Kids and ArchieFrom Adventure 1 to Black Knight, the games were regionally consistent. There were occasional miscommunications, but Sonic Team overall took pride in cleaning up the canon.Colors, especially the Wii version, was a writing experiment. It was humor-heavy, but not all the jokes translated (yen conversion rates? what?). Hence Pongraff. Generations was mostly played straight, but some of the "we gotta localize the cartoon humor" mentality carried over to Lost World.Meanwhile, you have self-aggrandizing writers in inflated egos over at Archie, dealing with their own issues in their small corner. Ian saw a way to worm his way in (get his sycophants to astroturf SoA on his behalf) over the dwindling reception of the tiresome so-called 'meta-era'. Basically weaseling through IDW to get to Frontiers. Frontiers was so bad that the Japanese tried to fix up, bit by the time they caught wind of Ian's script they already timed all the animations so they they said fuck-it and made their final draft JP-exclusive, essentially reintroducing 90's-esque continuity segregation into the series (TailsTube would later shit over Ian for his idiocy here).
>>538028909None of this is talking about the game. This meta talk about its completion state, development and post release events is overdone and irrelevant to the actual game's content
>>538029124What does Flynn watch then? Gurren lagann seems like his thing
>>538029467The actual game is dogshit
>>538029446>but Sonic Team overall took pride in cleaning up the canon.In what fucking universe where Blaze suddenly shows up in 06, the Gun Commander entire existence being baffling to SA2 plot, and Knuckles constantly showing up without the Master Emerald, is that "cleaning up the canon"?Fucking faggot, piss off. You managed to piss me off.
06 Silver's gameplay could have literally just been Tails with a gravity gun and almost nothing would need to be changed.
>>538028943You don't think that this line is the product of inconsistent story telling? I can easily see this being added because they believed that Zavok himself wasn't an illusion since he's the only one that actually spoke to Sonic out of the 4 villains that were brought back. I'm not arguing that he was in it or not because I know he wasn't. Im saying that it's an inconsistency rather than a comic reference.
>>538029124The ones that say "Relocalized" are fake because "relocalized" is a meaningless larper term, now that I pointed that out he'll blend in better.
EnglishNine : "You believe yourself ultimate? I think you're a fool."Shadow: "I'll make you eat these words, Sonic's fake underling."JapaneseNine: "The only thing ultimate about you is your stupidity."Shadow : "That's it you cheeky cunt I will fuck you in the ass you bitchy nonuple fag"
>>538029549He seems to be a very casual guy, watching whatever is popular at the time. For a Dragon Ball comparison, I heard people hating Toyotaro because he liked the MCU and My Hero Academia. Talk about pettiness.
>>538028038The "Golden era" is Sonic 1 to Sonic 3&K, with the rest of the Classic era games before SA1.
>>538028942I played 06 in 2009 when I was getting back into Sonic and feel the same way about the game. I tried to give it a fair chance and... well... I will say that I enjoyed Crisis City as Sonic. Anything else I could say would just be beating a dead horse
>>538029767Why does everyone want to fuck Tails?
>>538029732They are all real I just relocalize it ahead of time The only time i did a joke was the Row Row part.
She’s in.
>>538029605Hey, you missed>occasional miscommunicationsI didn't feel like going into detail because it was already wordy enough. I'm sorry your reading comprehension is insufficient, anon.
>>538029809Every game between 3K and SA1 was mid slop, don't put anything on a pedestol just because it's classic
>>538029870It is a dead horse. It is baffling that a game that is recognize as bad has defenders to this age and day, only because they don't like what came after.It's why I compare Sonic fans with Star Wars fans who defend the prequels. No amount of Clone Wars cartoon will make the Clone Wars movie be good.
>>538029871It's his fox charm
The golden era is now.
>>538030061Sonic is in her.
>>538029732>>538029767
Official English DialogueCream: One of Dr. Eggman's robots! It must be up to no good!Egg Pawn: ~Relocalized Japanese DialogueCream: Oh! A... one of Mr. Eggman's robots... What is it doing in a place like this!?Egg Pawn: ~
>>538030070Fuck off. Your entire thesis is bullshit and I'm not going to entertain your "my childhood is good" crap masquerading as "respecting the author's vision", you pretentious twat. I don't care about your feelings.
>>538029594I don't care, you already said you don't like the games and you're not interested in discussing it legitimately nor with any sort of depth or nuance, you have nothing to contribute to the discussion, shut the fuck up
>>538030227Take meds
>>538030227like... starting right now?
>>538029767Dow Bros wtf our hero is a furry pederast?!
>>538030127Triple Trouble is fun
>>538030312No, no it's perfectly fine and normal. Shadow is only like 5 years old technically so if anything, Tails is older than him.
>calzone poacher Damn I could go for a calzone right now
>>538030320When Noah Copeland remade it 25 years later yes
>>538030274Darkagefags like you genuinely believe this is a safe space where you can talk about your shit ass games without fear of vitriol. This creates an echo chamber where you guys end up ruminating and sniffing your own farts which lead people to develop genuinely insane opinions. People who once were fans of SA2 now feel the need to defend 06 because both games are shat on by classicfags
>>538030432fat fucking bitch
>>538029691Its only in English, which and all signs point to Ian being the English writer. Why would he NOT reference the comic?
English Cream: You make everyone nervous! Why do you have to be so scary? I'll beat you and prove to everyone it'll be okay!Metal Sonic: ......JapaneseCream: That robot version of Sonic... you look so fast...! But I'm not going to lose!Metal Sonic: ......EnglishMetal Sonic: ......Cream: Y-You sure are fast. B-But I'm going to drive my fastest too! You'll see!JapaneseMetal Sonic: ......Cream: You're always a little too scary, Metal Sonic! I'm going to beat you so you won't be scary anymore
>>538030070YOU SON OF ABITCH! YOU NINCOMPOOP! You RUINED my LIFE! That's it! I'm gonna DESTROY you! YOU...YOU... QUADRUPAL-NEGA!!!
>>538030606>Quadrupal NegaThat's a 2 week long ban sir. Have a nice vacation.
EnglishMetal Sonic: ......Egg Pawn: ......!JapaneseMetal Sonic: ......Egg Pawn: ......!EnglishEgg Pawn: ......!!Metal Sonic: ......JapaneseEgg Pawn: ......!!Metal Sonic: ......
>>538030267
>>538023173Yes it was Arin because of all the free cupcakes and youtube videos they made
Stinky foxfags. Take a fucking shower already.
>>538030132I defend the game because I had fun with it. I also criticize it because some parts of it were very unfun and messy. I love and even prefer certain games that came out after it, like Unleashed, Colors, and Mania. And although in some areas to a lesser extent Frontiers, if we include the updates>>538029870Sonic's Crisis City is in my top three favorite stages in the game. Sonic's Aquatic Base and Sonic's Kingdom Valley (although I don't really like Silver's segment that much) are the top 2 though. The Tails stages in the Team Attack Amigo DLC are also fun>>538030550>genuinely believe this is a safe space where you can talkNo, I don't believe that. I know you're here and that you behave like this, unfortunately>People who once were fans of SA2 now feel the need to defend 06 because both games are shat on by classicfagsI don't give a shit. I defend the parts of the game that I like because I played the game and had fun with them. I also love the classics. I don't care about your retarded fanbase tribalism
>>538031003I want to be a fox mobian but that fur must take forever to clean in the tub…
>>538031003no.
>>538030550I don't respect classicfags to begin with it, they now they now how their classic sub series they can roll themselves all over
>>538031104You think they shave their butthole to prevent dingleberries?>>538031115Oh and STOP PEEING EVERYWHERE AND ON EVERYTHING
>>538028909Stop avatarfagging.
>>538031252And yet they don't. None of them actually played Superstars lmao
>>538031115if anyone needs a bath, is fuckin sticks. she probably reeks. If you get anywhere close to her pussy you would probably faint
>>538031252Classic Sonic is just American Sonic, lol. jp Sonic has never been relevant or profitable. He’s a boring sterile corporate mascot that appears to nobody and offends nothing.
>>538030582He can't reference the comic events. To any existing fan or normalfag that doesn't read the comics, it just sounds like it could be some Forces shit since "Zavok" and Silver are in that game. If we look at it as something done on purpose, Ian probably did it this way so he could get away with masking it as something that happened in Forces. It's the same thing that happened with Zazz and Espio. IDWfags may think it's a reference to their fight during the Metal Virus, but it's masked as a reference to a JP comic.
>>538029605I have no game in this, but..>Knuckles constantly showing up without the Master EmeraldThis was already thing in the classic games.
English Shadow: What's this? Feh. More fodder to be destroyed on the way to victory.Egg Pawn: ......JapaneseShadow: This piece of junk is my opponent? I'm being seriously underestimated.Egg Pawn: ......EnglishEgg Pawn: ......!Shadow: You aren't worth my time. Disappear!JapaneseEgg Pawn: ......!Shadow: Worthless scrap... Get out of my sight
>>538031513Baths are just another way for society to brainwash her. She can't be her true self if she can't even produce her own musk.
>>538028909Violet, I usually try to defend you, but your shitposts made with Slashy's AI are stupid and tiring. Please behave, or at the very least put some effort in your shitposting
>>538031485its a bot
>>538028909>This is the guy who's supposed to have Bill Clinton's freewheeling energy1989/1990 Oshima didn't actually know who this was, btw.
THERE WAS NO "PROBLEM" WITH AMYS CHARACTER, SHE WAS CUTE, SILLY, FUNNY, AND CHARMING, HER WANTING TO DATE SONIC WAS A GOOD RUNNING GAG (literally) AND THERE WAS NO REASON TO STOP DOING IT OTHER THAN SOME FUCKING FEMINIST OR JEW OR BOTH WHO NEVER EVEN PLAYED THE GAMES COMPLAINED ABOUT IT AND COULDNT ACCEPT THAT NOT ALL ART EXISTS FOR THEM SO THEY DESTROYED SOMETHING I CARE ABOUT.I WANT AMY TO BE OBSESSED WITH SONICI WANT SONIC TO RUN AWAY FROM HER BECAUSE HE THINKS SHES ANNOYINGI WANT IT TO BE A FUN RUNNING GAG LIKE IT WAS BEFOREI DONT GIVE A FUCKING FUCK ABOUT ((((CHARACTER DEVELOPMENT))))) FUCK THAT SHITGENOCIDE ARCHIEFAGS, GENOCIDE SAT-AMFAGS, GENOCIDE (((CONSULTING))) FIRMS, AND MOST IMPORTANTLY, NUKE ISRAEL.
>>538031684Japanese shadow is so boring and soulless. Is it just him or does everything in Japanese have to be translated to autistic and emotionless mumbling?
>>538031859Japanese Amy should flirt with him more
EnglishShadow: You're a weak imitation with weaker ambitions. Don't waste my time.Metal Sonic: ......JapaneseShadow: A worthless fake robot... Disappear from my sight.Metal Sonic: ......EnglishMetal Sonic: ......!Shadow: Hmph. Sonic is no match for me, let alone his cheap replica. Come and see how inferior you truly are!JapaneseMetal Sonic: ......!Shadow: Hmph. To think a fake version of Sonic would challenge me... I'll indulge you. It's time you learned your place.
>>538031776>a Jap in the video game industry didn’t know who the United States president was Really, man?
>>538031803Nobody liked old Amy. New Amy is an over correction but an improvement nonetheless. Now they can start introducing romantic elements she has until it’s just right. Right now Amy is in a transient state.
The only real problem with 06 is Silvaze being unsalvagable.
>>538030582>>538031618>JP comicSonic Channel artwork, my mistake
Metal sonic makes sense but did we really needed 2 mute sonic characters in the roster?
>>538032056Bill Clinton wouldn't be president until a couple of years later, dumbass. That was around the time Sonic 3 was coming out. Oshima didn't know who the fuck that was, even if he lied about it being an "inspiration" decades later.
>>538032132Bump because this whole general is retarded and astounds me with its stupidity and anti-intellectualism every time I make the mistake of visitingSome of you never made it past high school and it shows.
>>538032091I LIKED OLD AMY! I THOUGHY SHE WAS FUNNY! KILL YOURSELF YOU SHIFTY SHADY COIN CLIPPING KIKEJEW
>>538032091Shut the fuck up, Faggot Flynn. Go back to fapping to lesbian drama.
I'm glad Shadow Generations finally helped people realize Sonic Generations was a shit game with terrible controls and bad 2D level design, and awful dialogue. Nearly everything wrong with later Sonic Team games came from taking inspiration from that game, including the problems with Shadow Generations itself (Radical Highway acting like Shadow's Green Hill is a mistake).
>>538031976Does Japanese Amy want to buckbreak Shadow?
>>538031069>I defend the game because I had fun with it.That's cool, my man.>>538032358Well, Krack didn't, that's the only one I'm aware of in here. Everyone else here is a complete enigma.
So is Evan being eaten by the woke mob over Lunar being an evil schizo? I don't twat or discode so I have no way of knowing.
>>538033179>(Radical Highway acting like Shadow's Green Hill is a mistake).I agree with everything else you said except this.The re-visits to Radical Highway were thematically appropriate, the only reason people shit on it was because it was then ALSO used as the final level. I believe the blow would have been softened a fair bit if there was some Westopolis representation as well.
>>538033179Hey, are you alright? Have you taken your meds?>>538032497Good for you, you're the 10 percent. You're irrelevant, so your precious opinion will be discarded.
>>538033459I only seen people thinking Lunar is lame, with people missing Starline or thinking the comic has no OC that feels super important. The X grifters will move on to the next topic by tomorrow and forget this comic existed.
>>538033592That's what I mean. It is fine as a single stage, repeating it several times in the same game was a mistake. It overstays its welcome, just like Green Hill did over the 2010s and 2020s.
>>538033754X grifters can’t even see Lunar is just a Nights expy, down to the genderless thing. I wonder if sega is planning a return of the franchise considering leaks imply nights is in crosswords, and sega loves using shit like anime, sidegames, or comics to advertise stuff
>>538032091Unfortunately anon I cannot take your statement as valid because it's sourceless. From first hand and second hand experience I know Amy was widely disliked in the 2000s because how clingy and one-note she was, but she was also widely liked to the point "Sonamy" became a bane in this community with their pointless shipping drama.I do know some folks who live in Japan who said they did not like Amy in the 2000's, but are overall in better terms with her. I seen a lot of people love Classic Amy in the comics and the promotional material for the games like that Mania animation.Anyway, I want to believe you but I must not due to a lack of a proper research and source; but I can in a way believe there is truth to it.
Thats it. I'm sending all of you into the vortex of endless Tailsfaggotry.
>>538034210X grifters have always been ignorant about these topics. They only thrive off controversy.It's like the whole controversy with this boxer woman who they thought was a transwoman. In a country where being trans is punishable by death.
>>538033598Shadow Generations is a decent enough game that putting it right next to Sonic Generations immediately showed everyone how overrated that trash was lmao. The Meta Era gets more and more btfo every day
>>538034210>leaks imply nights is in crosswordsThat was an official video officially published on the official channel
>>538034612>Shadow Generations is a decent enough game that putting it right next to Sonic Generations immediately showed everyone how overrated that trash was lmaoYeah, you haven't taken your meds. Go take your medicine, it is making you see things that aren't real. My grandma suffered from that, it's not a fun experience.
>>538034538Don't promise me a good time.
>>538034210Nights was already in Sonic Superstars in mecha form. Sega just likes references that particular part of Sonic Team history. And if I recall, Iizuka really wants to make a Nights 3. I hope he gets his wish.Is there any reason Nights couldn't be officially canon to the Sonic games? Sure, this being a Japanese franchise, they can just use the "Sea of Stars" explanation but I ask, can it all be the same canon? Does Sonic Shuffle & Dream Team conflict this in any way?
>>538029446This.It wasn't until Colors Wii that -deliberate, major language changes- (not mistranslations) were brought back into game canon. The last time this was done was back when the stories were relegated to instruction booklets.
>>538034793Literally go look at normie opinions on Sonic x Shadow Generations. Everyone says Shadow is the only good part while Sonic was boring and had bad controls and nobody likes the Classic Sonic nostalgia pandering.
>>538034612I'll defend the Modern Sonic stages in Generations, but I find the Classic stage design and the challenge missions bad enough to agree it is definitely overrated and only remembered fondly because of everything else around it being even worse.
>>538034865>s there any reason Nights couldn't be officially canon to the Sonic games?It doesn't need to be canon. Nights was created to be its own thing, and just labelling the work as "canon" to another does nothing for it.Not everything needs to be canon.
>>538034992I'm glad you brought up the shitty challenge missions. People always ignore those even exist.
>>538034992The Modern stages aren't even that good when compared to most other boost games, especially the Dimps originals
>>538034937>Literally go look at normie opinions on Sonic x Shadow Generations.Oh wow, this need game plays better than this 15 year old game, how...inspiring? Please, take your meds, man. You're seeing things.
>>538035096Can I at least have the thought experiment? You know, cause it's FUN to think about. Also, have they ever snuck in a Chuchu Rocket reference into a Sonic game?
>>538035290>especially the Dimps originalsLet's not start glazing "oops, all bottomless pits" level design.
>>538035313>new games are betterSonic's stages in SA2 play better than anything before or after SA2>>538035398Boost is all about memorization, so that's what it ends up being. It's not the ideal gameplay for Sonic (that's SA2), but if you do it well Rush Adventure and Unleashed are what you get
>>538035352If you want to, go ahead, but Nights should stand on its own, and it does. It's ultimately Iizuka's baby, to the point they allowed him to make the Wii game because of his hard work with Heroes and Shadow. And he doesn't want his baby to be tied to Sonic.
>>538035108>People always ignore those even exist.For good reason. I played one "friend challenge" and immediately wanted to close the game.Multiple peope thought this was a good ideahttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cYBhlLmroIE
>>538035757It will never be said enough: the Meta Era was a mistake.
>>538032139
>>538035828The Meta Era, the Dark era, and all those made up things aren't real; they were never intended, and you are angry at nothing.
>>538035757And yet they always praise the game even though well over half of it is trash. The Final Boss fight is also awful.
>>538035757>Sonic!>Leave it to me!
>>538029467You want to talk about the game's content? Fine. Let's talk about the content, you fucking retard. The fact you think the "meta talk" is irrelevant shows you don't understand that the broken, unfinished state is the content. You can't separate the shit from the shitter.Let's start with Sonic. My boy. The embodiment of 90s American rebellion and freedom. What did Sonic Team do to him in this "game"? They made him slow. He controls like a greased-up shopping cart. His legs move, but he's got no momentum, no weight, no physics. He gets stuck on a pebble. The classic games were all about mastering momentum on smartly designed playgrounds. This is about holding forward in a hallway and praying the homing attack doesn't send you into a bottomless pit, which it will, because it's fucking broken. The "mach speed" sections are a literal on-rails movie where you occasionally press a button. It's the illusion of gameplay, made for drooling idiots like you who just want to see pretty colors.And the "friends"? My god. They took Tails, "Kid Sonic," the cool little bro who can build and fix planes, and what's his gameplay? He flies for five seconds before getting tired and throws fake rings that do fuck-all. It's pathetic. He's not a hero-in-training; he's a liability.Then there's Knuckles, the "Authority" figure, the goddamn neo-con to Sonic's Clinton. He's supposed to be Sonic's equal and opposite. In '06, he's a bumbling idiot who can barely glide and gets stuck to every wall like a piece of shit on a blanket.And who the fuck is this Silver clown? "Light Sonic"? Get the fuck out of here. His gameplay is the antithesis of everything Sonic stands for. It's about stopping dead in your tracks, slowly picking up random junk with wonky telekinesis, and chucking it at enemies who just stand there and take it. The entire game grinds to a halt every time you're forced to play as this future-faggot. It's a shitty tech demo, not a character's gameplay style.
>>538036168Shut up Fred.
>>538035835
This heat is more oppresive than my father.
>>538035974I never thought Sega intentionally set out to create the eras, where did you get that from? We just refer to those games by a group name because of their internal characteristics. I think Forces was already trying to distance itself from some aspects of the Meta Era. Sonic Team also have come up with their own eras, and disagreed on the cutoffs. Even if you disagree with the cutoff was a clear change in direction starting at some point during the development of Colors, at the start of the 2010s, and it was in full effect by Lost World.
>>538033598You’re a jew.
>>538036271,,, and how that makes you feel?
>>538036269
Krack handjob.
Do you think sonic is finally in a permenant good position or will he have an 06/forces tier game soon to set him back once more
>>538036168>enemies who just stand there and take itYou've either never played the game or S ranked all of Silver's stages first try. I'm going to guess it's the former.
>>538036168>throws fake rings that do fuck-allI feel like people don't talk enough about how fucking STUPID it was to make Tails' attack to throw a bomb that explodes into FAKE RINGS.Like, what the actual fuck were they thinking
>>538036379Schizover
Reminder Sonic games are more beloved than Half LifeLiking 06 is more socially acceptablehttp://classicgameroom.freeforums.net/thread/1854/game-discussion-week-sonic-adventurehttp://classicgameroom.freeforums.net/thread/1862/game-discussion-week-sonic-adventurehttp://classicgameroom.freeforums.net/thread/513/game-discussion-week-half-series
>>538036241Listen here you little shit. My grandfather didn't freeze his ass off on the Eastern Front fighting the goddamn Russians just for some punk-ass, ungrateful zoomer like you to tell me to "shut up". You don't get it.The truth is simple: Sonic is the American rebel, Knuckles is the conservative authority he clashes with, and Tails is the cool little bro trying to keep up. It's a perfect formula, a reflection of Americana.My family has been fighting Russian influence for over a century. I'm not about to be silenced by some commie-sympathizing faggot who can't handle the truth about a cartoon hedgehog. You represent the weakness that lets our enemies win. Now get the fuck out of my sight before you disrespect the sacrifices my family made for this country again.>>538031702Who the fuck is Violet? My posts are pure American truth about Sonic, not some AI trash. I ain't Elon Musk or one of his MAGA cronies.
>>538036629Didn't it come from Sonic Heroes?
>allow the use of the freedom fighters for over 20 years>randomly stop after archie endsWhy?
>>538036557Sonic is doing swell
>>538024068Afternoon pink rat. Quota's already done, but I'll probably do a couple more just because I have the time for it.
>>538036794Heroes was a mistake
T H EP E A K
>>538036805If Potto is to be believed, Sega (of Japan) wanted to axe the Freedom Fighters during the reboot. They were only salvaged due to Potto convincing them (allegedly) that the comic wouldn't sell without them.Personally, I think they just clogged up the Reboot which had too many characters but that's just me.
>>538036391>where did you get that from?You using those made-up terms. If you want to talk about the games, then talk about the games in an objective manner.Don't say "Meta era", that shit is meaningless. Say "Colors was a mistake", or "Kishimoto's work with Sonic was bad", or "Pontac is the worst game writer", at least I get an idea what the hell are you saying.Meta Era sounds like an excuse to talk about everything in one circle, and that is idiotic.
>>538036603Lmao, the "difficulty" comes from fighting the controls, not the enemies, you fucking mongoloid. It's like trying to thread a needle while having a seizure. S-ranking that shit isn't a badge of honor, it's a certificate of being a goddamn geek. It proves you have the patience to master a fundamentally broken system, not that the gameplay is good. It's the kind of garbage "challenge" only a Nip could dream up because they have no concept of what's actually fun.>>538036629Fucking exactly. It’s emblematic of Sonic Team's total contempt for the characters. They took Tails, the cool little bro mechanic, "Kid Sonic," and turned him into a fucking party clown. It's not funny, it's not clever, it's just stupid.
>>538036780You shit yourself at your grandfather's funeral you western Sonic cuck
>>538034286>I do know some folks who live in Japan who said they did not like Amy in the 2000's, but are overall in better terms with herCalls people out for lacking sources while also saying crap without a source.
>>538037040Why’d they allow comic ocs in idw then
>>53803713106 has good level design it is hampered by the glitchy mechanics.
>>538036939I haven't played it enough yet to talk about the gameplay but I think it's cool that they actually prominently featured STK in a game. It's cool to see them fight the final boss together, and also some real interactions between Tails and Knuckles. Team Sonic wasn't really a thing outside of promotional material before
>>538037040Oh GOD.They should've axed them! NONE of the freedom fighters benefitted from the reboot, amazingly.
Enemies requiring more than one hit to kill are fucking stupid and serve no purpose other than artificial "difficulty".Wow I have to press homing attack 3 times, what a groundbreaking change.
>>538033754With the retarded "no pronouns only Lunar" thing I can already see why people would ignore Lunar as to not deal with the hassle of getting called out over a mistake (I saw several get "corrected" over calling it "they/them" even if it was still grammatically correct) especially for an ugly character.
>>538037189Ok then I'll admit you got me. Those two are specific people I'm acquantanced with. I made a mistake in my argument.
>>538037131Fred what do you think of Lunar?
>>538037131And that confirms you haven't played the game. It's not a matter of controls, avoiding the attacks is mechanically simple, it's more a matter of timing the attacks and managing the telekinesis meter
>>538036862okay!
>>538037438Maybe. I haven't been paying attention to the Sonic community around the comics in a while, so I'll take your word for it, my good sir.
>>538037395I like it in a score attack setting as it makes the choice to engage in combat more thought-out.
>>538037395In the games that have multi-hit enemies the challenge usually comes from finding a switch or the leader which defeats every single enemy in the room upon defeat. It's not always the case, but a lot of frustration comes from not understanding this because you're used to the one hit kill mentality of previous games and you didn't adapt to the change
>>538037612Sauce
>>538037767Needing to hit the red enemy in the middle of a group 3 times instead of all of them isn't challenging nor smart.
>>538037930I dunno, sorry anon
>>538037981It fits with the mentality of Sonic level design, where you need to learn and understand the stage so you can go through it quickly. It's a combat shortcut instead of a path shortcut>isn't challengingThe challenge comes from knowledge and execution in getting A/S ranks
>>538037764I wish more people understood that if you don't do time attack/score attack challenging yourself to do better and beat your own times/score then you haven't really played the game and don't have a proper understanding of its mechanics
>>538038340This is why I prefer S Ranks being a thing.
>>538038153Ok fair, I don't like it but I can concede that knowing the correct enemy to hit 3 times does force you to take better control for a better time.
>>538038506>Sonic CPThat’s not a thing.
>Nobody has brought up Sword of Courage in a whileHmm. Did people discuss the Shadow manga in here when it came out?
>>538038709Did it get posted here with a good translation?
>>538024861>the question STILL didn't get answered
>>538038709It's windover
>>538038709Because it's trash.
>>538038709Last I heard it was overhyped and mediocre
>>538038709It was most recently discussed 14 hours ago >>537974790>>538038793I don't think the new issue is out yet
>>538038793I only have Windii's translation, unfortunately. I still wonder if IDW can publish the manga like how Marvel released Akira ages ago, or Dark Horse with Berserk.I remember disliking the manga at first because it took a very weird creative choice with Shadow being the one from 50 years ago, and Black Doom having a hand at the Ark massacre. I feel that Black Doom just messing with Shadow memories in later chapters was a cop-out by the artist.I think the artist used Flynn's script for Generations as a basis for the way Shadow treats Biolizard being different from the localized script.
>>538039218No offense anon I didn't notice the post yesterday and thought it was just another IDW post
>>538039387I didn't see it either, I just searched the archives for "the manga" and showed you the most recent Sonic-related post I found
>>538038545Same, I wish they added those to Mania, Origins and Superstars as well, instead of treating them like a "Modern addition". I think the mission system in Origins has them, which makes their exclusion even dumber
Talking about the mentall ill jester is more entertaining than the manga.
>>538038709Last I heard it was trash
>>538039659>mentall ill jesterNot decided yet btw
>>538039672>>538039019Why?
>>538036765I'm sorry but this isn't fair. Half-Life hasn't seen a new entry nor console ports in literal decades while Sonic occasionally gets yearly releases and a constant stream of non video game material.
>>538039950Damn, Alyx already forgotten...
The Crossworlds comic is more important
>>538039836It's the IDW schizo samefagging since he's scared that the manga will finally have people discussing about the IDW comics.
>>538038709Last I heard it was garbage.
>>538039446Oh well, it's fine.
>>538039950Then why it got 1/5 stars vote
>>538038709Before I heard it was rubbish.
>>538036780Just stop it, Violet
>>538038709I read it was dumpy so I took a shyte on it.
>>538038709Last I heard, it was completely overrated shit.
>>538039226>I think the artist used Flynn's script for Generations as a basisI wonder how that happened. I suspect the translated Japanese staff treats the English scripts as drafts, so maybe they sent him a draft and that's what he had to work with
>>538038709Last I heard it was trash shit garbage.
>>538038709The most recent information I received categorically deemed it substandard.
Lol that post triggered an intense Duo samefag chain
Lasy i heahr i'twas rubbish. Bloody oath cobber!GAYAGA
>>538040134What does that have to do with the manga content?
Haunted Amy plush that calls you cute!!
>>538039135Why did people copy my post
Tails the Ball
>>538041471You're our special star.
>>538041471Duofag doesn't like the manga (or pretends to hate it because it helps his narrative)
Watch out for that government agent! It starts with jury duty, and zoning ordinances, and before you know it, boom! Our tax dollars are benefiting others! And not us!
>>538038709I heard it’s shit from a dog’s ass.
>>538041565Ball BUMP <3
>>538038709Last I heard it was an overhyped piece of narrative garbage.
STOP
>>538038709Last I heard it was less than stellar. A piece of fucking shit, if you will.
>>538038709The manga is so shit only krack likes it.
You lack subtlety
>>538038709Only Krack likes that piece of shit.
Sonic
>>538042382>>538042703But I'm fine with it too. The hell.
Silver
>>538038709I heard that it was shit only 1 or two windtards liked.
>>538038709astlay iyay eardhay ityay asway ashtray .
>>538038709I heard that only one person in Japan thought it was ok
Shadow
STOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOP
>>538038709its hype doesn't live for long. unless it does something crazy, it will be forgotten by the time movie 4 is out.
Should ranks be removed to appease the larger casual market? The average person does not like having their gameplay rated where it actually upsets them to see a low rank after spending a significant amount of time trying to clear a stage.
Amy
>>538042990CUTE!
>>538038709I heard it was shit only krack likes.
>>538037930darkwolfhybrid
>>538043454Just recently I started to feel things about this cute thing
Metal
>>538043491The ranks should be harsher and the casuals need to be thoroughly humiliated. Getting the lowest rank should have the game call you a RETARDED FUCKING NIGGER who needs to get better. And give a humiliating option to turn on an "easy mode" that removes all the challenging aspects of the stage and gives you a fake S rank for free that says "You didn't earn this you stupid bitch, get good"
He does know we can tell he's samefagging, right?
>>538043491I want to say no because I love aiming for higher ranks, but considering how S ranks are basically free in every Sonic game for the last 17 odd years, maybe they don't serve a purpose anymore.
>>538037212Why wouldn't they?
>>538043454>>538043726He is cute <3
Rodents
>>538043852>>538044085Metal Suffering Metal Happiness Which do you prefer?
>>538043859we do but its like when the retarded kid spergs out you just ignore it lol
>>538043859I was not expecting someone to reply to my post like that, so it was a weird day. Have a nice day, anon.
>>538043875(0///0)~<33+*+**!
>>538043491No. Metal Harbor E ranks made me the man I am today (a fucking loser).
>>538044369the twist.
Sonic Generations was a mistake.
>>538044650Hmm interesting, do try to convince us
>>538044650
when the fuck are we getting new Echidna characters
>>538043491i think it should stay as an additional mode but not when going through the game normally as i see it as part of the bygone arcade era where things like lives were used as an incentive to (re)play rather than the game being fun enough without it for the player to want to do that
>>538044779Bad level design, which gets even worse in 2D and especially Planet Wisp. The worst final boss in the series, not just in design but also mechanically, and even in the music. Introduced Classic Sonic, without the physics nor style or appeal of the classics. The challenges are completely awful. The game is short and doesn't offer a challenge. It started the trend of abandoning creativity to focus entirely on rehashes and nostalgia pandering. The story and dialogue are boring and unfunny Pontaff trash.
>>538045081Penders...
>>538045081In about 4 or 5 maybe 6
>>538045168 >It started the trend of abandoning creativity to focus entirely on rehashes and nostalgia pandering.Blaming the game for future game decisions, argument discarded.>The story and dialogue are boring and unfunny Pontaff trash.You enjoy writing redundancies.
>>538045081Unless Sonic Team decides to, never. I doubt Flynn even cares about it at this point, and no one else in the staff cares about Knuckles at his level - Evan would rather obsess over Silver, and I have no clue who Danny would get autistic about.
>>538045495It's not just future games that did that: Generations itself did that. As I said, it started the trend. It is bad that Generations did it even in a vacuum. Making a nostalgia pandering game that doesn't have anything to offer is bad.>You enjoy writing redundancies.I do. Sonic Generations is a bad game that isn't good.
EnglishRouge: I'm curious, how is it you keep showing up in the most improbable places?Big: I just go where my feet take me. I don't worry about much else.JapaneseRouge: You know, you're surprisingly active... I feel like I run into you in the most random spots.Big: Hmmm, is that so~? I don't really get it...EnglishBig: I find all kinds of treasures when I go fishing. Wanna see sometime?Rouge: Luring me with the promise of of treasure? You are a master fisherman!JapaneseBig: I find all sorts of treasure when I'm fishing~ I can give you some if you want?Rouge: And in exchange, you want me to let you win? As if I'd fall for bait like that. Hehe
>>538028913
>>538045796Ok.Did I have fun with the game? Yes. Did I enjoy replaying it? Yes. Do I need more? No, I can walk away satisfied. Now go enjoy a game you like.
>>538029947Cutes! Yours?
EnglishRouge: All that power, and you're too honorable to do anything fun with it? So disappointing.Silver: How is being a responsible person disappointing!? You want excitement? Then I won't show you any mercy on the track!JapaneseRouge: Having psychokinesis to move things around is wonderful, isn't it? You could take all the treasure you want.Silver: Sorry! I don't use my powers for that. Special abilities like this have to be used correctly, for everyone's sake!EnglishSilver: I'm on to you, Rouge! No clever tricks will work on me! I'm ready for your every move!Rouge: You can't handle my moves, little man. Even so, I guess I'll just have to win this the old-fashioned way.Japanese Silver: It doesn't matter what kind of dirty tricks you try to pull. I'm just going to win with my own driving!Rouge: Oh, how earnest Being straightforward is a good thing, but if you only ever look ahead like that, you're going to get hurt, you know?
The seething Chilean shitposter is funny, what a retard
>>538046035>Do I need more? No, I can walk awayAdd "no replay value" to the list of bad things about Sonic Generations. Even people who claim (lie) that the game is fun don't want to replay it. That's so sad, replay value is one of the core appeals of Sonic games. Maybe if the S ranks weren't given for free and you actually had to engage with the stage then you would have replayed the stages enough to notice how bland it is. The fact that it didn't have lasting appeal should be telling enough, though.
>>538037023It really was.
>>538046568Green Hill when it was still good, a decade before Generations took a huge shit all over it.
>>538046436Oh wow.Anyway.
>>538046826Yeah, Generations is so boring and unoriginal nobody wants to discuss or defend it.
>>538046568
>>538047036*pushes him*
>>538046992I'm not interested in your discussion, because there is nothing to talk about but subjective talking points. We are not here to be your circlejerk.
Guys, something just occurred to me.The biggest problem with two of the recent arcs of the Sonic comics is that a lot could've been avoided if the characters just TALKED to each other. Meta-wise, the writers of the comic (Ian, Evan) also have the same problem, resulting in plots that don't mesh well with each other.The reason why the comic's writing sucks is two-fold yet near-identical, and I think the writers are unknowingly projecting their problems into the comic itself.
I did my research. Tails and Amy were never planned to get married. Amy was never planned for Mobius 25YL at all. Whoever that Tailsmy poster is (Violet?) is outright lying. There is no source on the internet for this at all. In fact, it appears Karl Bollers (Creator of Mina) did not like that chapter at all. Mina was chosen for no other reason than having green eyes and super speed. that's all that Penders has said on the matter. There's also a common claim that it was meant to be Fiona. I will have to check.
>>538047234Sonic Generations is unoriginal. It is nostalgia pandering to the extreme. Classic Sonic doesn't have the physics nor appeal of the classics. Modern Sonic's controls are ripped off from Unleashed, even though the level design doesn't accommodate them. The challenges are badly designed. The S ranks are so unbalanced and easy to get that the feature may as well not be in the game. The game as a whole was a mistake that harmed all the games released after it.None of this is subjective. They are all very simple and correct facts about the game.
>>538046389wait, who is the chilean shitposter?
>>538047036
>>538047672Ok.
>>538047493no ur rong i herd it on 4chin.
>>538047995Good luck coping with the truth.
>>538048141Ok.
>>538047390I need to find who Tangle and Lanolin stand-in for so we can know who gets away with everything and who gets blamed for everything.
>>538047390>a lot could've been avoided if the characters just TALKED to each otherThis is the case with all media with bad writers.They can't write real conflict so they force it by having a character withhold important information for no reason, refuse to voice their concerns for no reason and just refuse to communicate to each other for no reason because otherwise if they did any of that the problem would solve itself and the story wouldn't happen.Now granted I am VERY far behind on IDW so I have no idea the context for this panel in your post but I assume it'll be due to one of the above.
Do you think SEGA will make another Classic Sonic game after Superstars?
>>538048263The editor, maybe? I can blame Evan for making Whisper forget the dumb cam thing, but the editor is also to blame for forgetting about it.
>>538038709Thats because it was ok at best and sonic fans desperately pretended that it was the best thing to ever exist because they want this franchise to be dragon ball for some fucking reason
>>538048392Maybe.
>>538043941Why allow new ocs but not the old ones
>>538048501Let me be clear too thwrws nothing necessarily wrong with the manga being ok at best plenty of sonic media is like this but lets not pretend that its some masterpiece just because its japanese
>>538048562Superstars was a failure and nobody cared about Classic Sonic in Sonic x Shadow Generations. I would like more games like Superstars, but I don't think people find them appealing anymore
>>538047726There's an esl poster who comes here every now and then and seethes about a specific set of topics. He's very easy to spot and can't help himself. Utterly harmless and dimwitted, He has an issue with windfags and westshit at the same time which is a fun combo. He will mass reply to posts to try and astroturf but he can't speak english very well and makes it obvious. I try only to mention him in dead hours since he's likely going to achieve namefag status soon.
>>538048501You say that, but Dragon Ball content has been very mid ever since Battle of Gods. Hell, maybe even before that, so I don't see the comparison being very valid although I get where you coming from.
>>538048736Sonic fans also do not read Dragon Ball they just like the hype moments and aura and think Sonic should also be just that
>>538048717The Zavokguy who someone else brought up?
>>538048736I will not allow Super Broly or Super Hero slander in this thread
>>538048849Sonic fans want good writing (aka Maekawa)
>>538048710Anon we already have the sales figures for superstars it sold well
Silver merch on top BABY
>>538048849Eh, Dragon Ball fans themselves did not read Dragon Ball. We had a meme for that back when Super was airing. They got very persistent in how baddly Gohan and Vegeta were written.
>>538049014SEGA said it was disappointing, also those numbers were posted by accident, there's no indication or proof that they're correct, they may very well be placeholder numbers, or an incomplete document. Official statement was that it sold poorly
>>538048995Maekawa is good writing if the only things you ever consumed in your life was Jetix cartoons
>>538048717Im not american and i do have a problem with windfags, perhaps you are speaking about me?>and westshit Ok not me then
>>538049186I have watched and read plenty of stories within and outside of animation, Maekawa is good writing period.
>>538049186Sonic fans are mostly kids and autists that love japanese cartoons so yes that is good writing to them
why are people allergic to the idea of Silver getting anything
>>538049169>proof that they're correctIt was an investor briefing. Sega, legally, cannot lie to investors. Likewise, the sales were visible in the actual briefing and only blacked out for the public version.
>>538049428>not everything needs a definitive answer or timeline or maphe's right
>>538049481It was a document that they published by accident. We don't know that it was actually shown or used, all we know is that it was published when they didn't intend to
Sonic stories are fine for what they are proposing to be, which is writing for a saturday morning anime style cartoonI think some stories in Sonic have managed to be very well written but its very sparce and most are like 5 different comic arcs and 2 games
>>538049428He's right but also the nature of time travel bullshittery means we could see multiple variations of a "Silver future" and still have room for fan works.
>>538049428Because Silver fucking sucks. I do not understand the obsession with him.
>>538048381>Now granted I am VERY far behind on IDW so I have no idea the context for this panel in your post but I assume it'll be due to one of the above.There were TWO villains (a mob boss and a mole) that the good guys knew about and had prior experience with. With the former, they never bothered to alert the authorities or warn Jewel when they had plenty of time to do so, and the latter could have been easily exposed by talking with their teammates and simply removing their gloves in front of everybody.This is due to Evan not having the brainpower to figure out how to make the villains look smart without dumbing down the heroes, really. And what's baffling is that she's STILL writing for the comic when I assumed she got reassigned to Lore Artist to subtly get her away from the writing script while Ian cleaned up her mess. Looks like I was half-right.
>>538049629He's right, but that doesn't mean SEGA shouldn't come up with an cool and imaginative official future of their own
>>538049428Thats lame as hell i want a silver game where i can play in his future not just fanfic about his hype moments and aura into eternity
>>538049638It's still up on Sega's investor website.https://www.segasammy.co.jp/cms/wp-content/uploads/pdf/en/ir/20250618_Management_large_MTG_all_e.pdfIt was not "published by accident" brah.
>>538049758Simple. Future Trunks is top 5 most loved DB characters.
>>538049428Because everyone wants their characters fed first and Silver getting anything upsets their preconceived idea of who matters in the franchise
How black is Sonic?
Rouge the Bat character arc is a commentary on government overreach and how the modus operandi of federal agencies often causes far more harm than good.Discuss.
>>538049897He’s a white guy who tries to act black
>>538049758It's easy: not everyone has the same taste as you. A lot of people like Silver, unlike you, and want to see him
>>538049348There is an esl poster who whines about chronicles for having westshit and windshit and I think he means that guy. But I'm pretty sure that's an intentional baitposter. Likely not you.
New sonic channel stickers
>>538049868Silver has NONE of the things that made Trunks so interesting.
>>538049428Anyone who uses the term "Silver's future" is an idiot anyway. It's Silver's time period, or the future. "Silver's future" would be something beyond what he's experienced.
>>538049989 But his first VA was black
>>538050075Yeah because they refuse to do anything with him, its like if toriyama introduced the concept of a time traveller that can go super and kill frieza but then refuse to elaborate for the next 10 years
>>538050074Line stickers? Or what
>>538050027And those people are stupid. YOU are stupid.
Reminder: Sonic is still king of Sega shit mountain.
>>538049805My low stakes conspiracy theory is that the IDW staff hated how people wanted more Lanolin (a background character) over Tangle/Whisper (their new main characters) so they made her fucking stupid as a joke.
>>538050269Persona is SOInc?
>>538050223Sonic is michael jackson
>>538049854At what page does that show Superstars?
>>538049348Being a windfag is a requirement for being a Sonic fan
>>538028153No.
>>538050490It is. That anon is a fake fan and needs to fuck off from our community.
>>538050490
>>538049918I thought Rouge was a contractor, not an actual government agent.If anything she's an example of how governments will employ and pardon criminals in order to use their skills and knowledge to further their goals.
Mountainfags? Wya?
>>538050490People keep trying to play off windfags as some kind of purist fan and it's literally just people who like the actual games and not the comics that only a handful of people actually read
>>538049428He is right, but that won't stop fans asking for a solid answer, and Sonic Team one day will have to give a game about Silver's future that will dissapoint many people because is not what they wanted.
>>538050782Aka annoying purist
>>538050706
>>538050782>People keep trying to play off windfags as some kind of purist fan and it's literally just people who like the actual games aYou guys only like three games at most and its usually whatever gives Sonic the most "aura".
>>538050891>black guy>can't dance to save this life
>>538050074This sucks.
>>538050916I am a windfag and I like most Sonic games.
>>538050952his hands and feet are too big
>>538050223Technically his first VA was Japanese, the SEGASonic arcade game came out a few days before SatAM.
Windcucks be like>we just like the games!!! Well only these specific games anyway, and only the japanese dub of those games or else they are OOC woke mobile westshit slopfaggotry
>>538050858What is purist about that? Windfags also like Sonic X and Blade of Courage.
>>538050074I want that Sage sticker with me, but I have no cents on me.
>>538051120Sonic doesn't exist in Japan, not really
>>538050690>I thought Rouge was a contractor, not an actual government agent.She was working under direct orders of the government anyway, so it's all the same.>she's an example of how governments will employ and pardon criminals in order to use their skills and knowledge to further their goals.This makes them look even worse.
>>538049805It's so fucking bullshit how Tangle and Whisper get out of this scott-free when they had more experience with Mimic. Lanolin wasn't ever even told how Mimic's powers worked, those two knew it and still acted completely retarded, and I'm seriously expected to believe they were "smarter" about it? What, for knowing the answer and still being pussies who won't just rip off some gloves? Because Whisper got to drag Silver around on a leash and then act like she wasn't the one who backstabbed him by voting him out?
>>538051187>What is purist about us classicfans? Jusr because we hate modernFAGGOTRY doesnt mean we hate everything, we also like AoStH and SATAM
>>538051187Anyone who likes Sonic X immediately outs themselves as a drooling retardThat show fucking SUCKS
Anti windfucks on their way to explain why we should respect a comic that tries to turn all the characters into crybabies and loads the story with lgbt ocs
>>538050074I like smug rouge
>>538023048>tails tranny op
>>538051170Windfags are just bittered 2000 fanboys who use "le wind(tm)" discourse to pretend they care about the integrity of the brand.It's all smoke and mirrors. It's just the Sonic they grew with. And there is nothing wrong with it, but it is boring to keep hearing these pretenders act like religious nuts over a cartoon.
>>538051412No one here talks about the comic except for you faggots. We DO NOT care.
>windcucky gets BTFO>immediately starts trying to change the discussion to IDW I've seen this one before
>>538051396Anyone who hates Sonic C is likely an old fart milenial who never liked Sonic's actual character in the first place
>>538050269>Total War Warhammer reps in Crossworlds confirmed>Shin Megami Tensei 5 mc confirmed>Nights deconfirmed because it's not on the table
I love SA2
>>538051609Anyone claims to like Japanese Sonic when even Japan doesn't like Sonic is woefully unintelligent.
Sexual Assault 2
>>538051412>Windfucks on their way to explain why we should respect some baddly written game characters just because they debuted in the gamesNobody even brought up the comics, Silversissy.
>>538051783>>538051412?????
I like IDW but i literally never bring up here because i know theres no good discussion to be had on that comic here, you are the only one that keeps bringing that up even when the rest of the thread is clearly disinterested
You guys are really trying to shit on people for preferring the characterizations from the mainline games over shit like Uwuver
>windtard still trying to deflect on IDWRumao
>>538052073>from the mainline gamesSonic is not consistently written in all of the games.
>>538023173Arin got dropped cause he constantly talked shit about sonic and bad mouthed the entire library of games that he's supposed to represent. Then he got all salty that he got fired, no shit Sherlock.
Sonic doesnt talk in any games since hes the wind and the wind doesnt speak
I only care about characters protected and loved by Sega. Silver is... very not that
>>538052240Way to expose that you only play them on English
>>538051981One anon here kept bothering me because "UUH Metal VIRUS SHADOW BAD" and I told him "that was years ago, we are in issue 77 and you are stuck on issue 25", only for him to say "IT WAS BAD THEN IT IS BAD NOW".It's just pointless bitching. We agreed shadow was bad on MV, why are we still talking about it when the comic has moved on from it?It's like the people they so critize so cannot talk about the new Sonic game without bringing up 06. It is exhaustingly dull.
>>538051952It's just Silverschizo having another pointless melty. Just report and ignore.
>>538052335From what i remember the reason he was dropped was actually because of fans complaining to SEGA>>538052445You are delusional
>>538051686Hi everyone
>>538052445You're not Japanese. You don't even speak the language.
>>538052549There are SA2 haters
>>538050259NTA but Stop seething blazetard.
Shadow = Sonic but edgierJet = Sonic but more arrogant Zazz = Sonic if he was an unhinged anarchist
>>538052638Look up what "lying" means. Some of them even lie to themselves
>>538050782>games or comicsI reject both, movies and TV shows supremacy
Why did you drop silvisper?
>>538052461As i said theres no good discussion about it to be had here, i would rather talk about IDW with my friends or other people that dont have a clear schizoid agenda about it
>>538048986>I will not allow Super Broly or Super Hero slander in this thread>Dog broly shit>Flopped movie that just retreads the cell arc in a rushShitper was shit.
>>538052461Sonic 06 tried to uplift characters like Shadow and IDW tries to tear them down
>>538052901>Sonic 06 tried to uplift characters ???????Why speak plural when its singular?
>>538052901Shadow was the only one uplifted by 06's writing.
"Anti windfags" are just comicfags who thinks IDW has accurate characterization. They hate Sonic.
I took a nap for like 2 hours. Is Violet still ragebaiting people?
>windbab STILL trying to deflect that no on here likes him on IDWGet a new gimmick
Has there been any Crossworlds Rival interractions with Silver/Sonic and Silver/Shadow?
>>53805290106 tried to bench characters that mattered like Tails and Knuckles in favor of hot topic and literal pothead and tried to turn hedgehogs into saiyans
>>538052650Tails = Sonic if he was cuter, smarter but less braveCream = Sonic if he was a girlVanilla = Sonic if he was a milfDr Eggman = Sonic if he had a moustacheEggman Nega = Sonic after a bad chilidogMetal Sonic = Knuckles
Even if Sonic was consistent in Japanese(he's not), the Japanese find him so unappealing that no one buys his games>it's because he's appealing to westerners by designSo is the MGS series and yet its games sold more than Sonic does
The Joker = Sonic if he laughed
MIIIIIIIIIIIINAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
The Hedgehog Who Laughs
The Killing Chilidog
>>538053216>characters that mattered like Tails and Knuckles
>>538053483https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZdNhMfoGm0QSomeone should draw that
>>538053216Knuckle shouldn't have been in 06 to begin withand Tails doesn't need to need to be in every single Sonic story if they can't give Tails any material to work with or else he's just there for the sake of obligation
>>538053661Tails is Sonic's sidekick. He has to be there as a plot crutch.
>>538053661Knuckles shouldn't have been in any game past SA1
Only Sonic, Elise, Silver, Amy, and Blaze should have been in 06.
>>538053584Yes they did. They both serve more narrative purpose to the franchise than Shadow or Silver, who only work if they’re their own protagonists
Only the wind should have been in The Wind 2006
>>538050307It always annoyed me that this wasn't actually transparent.
Putting my foot down. If you like IDW then you don't like Sonic. End of story.
>>538053973Neato, thanks
And who asked you to put your foot down?
>>538054051I like the art and I can't process any of the text on the page
>>538053661Tails should be in every game Sonic is in. Or finally give him his own game again
>>538050074>Marine is smug girl who needs correctionWho drew these? I want to shake his/her hand.
>>538054051said no one ever
>>538054051IDW is Sonic. Everything is canon. Suck cock
>>538053216>06 tried to bench characters that mattered like Tails and KnucklesNo it didn't. They are playable, have a ton of dialogue, and contribute to saving Sonic in the final story. Tails even got DLC (where they even improved his controls compared to the base game)
>>538054176You should only have the characters that actually serves the story of your are telling or else they become background fillerOr just have them as playable unlockables
HOOOOOOO!
>>538054448This is still a game franchise, theres nothing wrong with certain secondary characters tagging along even if they only serve gameplay purposes
>>538054051Why so serious with the true scottman fallacy?
>>538054610So why are you complaining about Sonic 2006 doing exactly that?
>>538054419Them sitting with thumbs in ass while fucking Silver of all people gets to go super and beat the big bad with Sonic is inexcusable
>>538053928>They both serve more narrative purpose
>>538054696Im not thats a different guy
>>538054701So this is all just a facade to hate on Silver. That's sad. I'm glad Tails and Knuckles aren't this insecurePlus they just defeated the final boss together in the previous game
The kind of Sonic I want to see come back is the one who would get a hat or small costume change and immediately break out in a cheesy MJ dance to show off how cool he is. Tails being unphased by this sequence of events because he expects this behavior and Shadow/Knuckles doing the "good grief this guy." pose.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CV9LyYzLUyQSo yea, basically Dante.
>Putting my foot down. If you like ModernShit then you don't like Sonic. End of story.
>>538054642Fuck you for making this. You are obsessed. Just deal with it. You aren't a Sonic fan. There are almost 0 comic fans who show any sign of being a real Sonic fan. If you think that's unfair, you're an idiot. There are people who like the same garbage as you and still understand the characters and can hear "Sonic is like the wind" without seething about how this takes away their relatable trash.Go watch Steven Universe or something. Stay away from Sonic.
>>538054878>Plus they just defeated the final boss together in the previous gameIn the cuck bubble, because only Sonic gets to look cool….oh wait Shadow and Silver get to look cool too!
>>538054813Oh okay, I agree with you then
I'll stop complaining about the state of this franchise when it actually becomes good again.
>>538055053Fuck you for making this. You are obsessed. Just deal with it. You aren't a Sonic fan. There are almost 0 MODERNSHIT fans who show any sign of being a real Sonic fan. If you think that's unfair, you're an idiot. There are people who like the same garbage as you and still understand the characters and can hear "Way Past Cool" without seething about how this takes away their shounen trash.Go watch Naruto or something. Stay away from Sonic.
>>538055053Kill yourself random
>>538054642Kek
Sonic died with the Dreamcast
>>538055053Ok, Foxy.
Archie is the superior Sonic. period.>but it's non canon and oocyes. it is superior
>>538050952That's a red echidna with Caucasian skin, bro.
>>538055317When will he be revived?
>>538054720If you can only reply with retarded memes then I accept your concession
Sonic died with the Boom series.
>>538055412I politely disagree. Everyone has a preference. I personally prefer the Sonic from a specific period, but I don't dislike any of them (except maybe Forces).
>>538055068They'll always look cool to me, no matter what you or SEGA say
Sonic died yesterday of lung cancer
>>538055445>stop posting retarded memesstop posting terrible takes
>>538055560They’re cool to me too, but I’m not blind to the fact that SEGA badly wants to make them not cool because they view them like Krillin and Tien
>>538055462The soup is cold and the salad is hot, how is that even possible?
If you like the classic games, you don't like Sonic
>>538053928If people actually cared about Knuckles narrative purpose as Sonic's contrast, then they wouldn't want him to just destroy the Master Emerald and Angel Island just because they want Knuckles to show up everything
>>538055712What is this supposed to prove, exactly? Would you have prefer Eggman to not say anything and work with Sonic during the climax?Because it sounds like being petty over a trivial preference.
Eggman's master plan is to legalize gay hog marriage
>>538056003Wtf I love Eggman now??
If you like Sonic games, you don't like Sonic
If you like Silver games,
>>538055916Ian...
>>538055710No older than 16
Sex with people who dont like sonic
>check IDWfag profile>Pronouns in bio>Busy arguing about Lunar's gender>Complains that JP Sonic is boring>Insists IDW is in character despite the aboveEvery time. You can tell IDW fans are politically motivated to defend it
>>538056405>people who dont like sonicName 1. You can't
>>538055734I don't know that much about Dragon Ball, but from what I saw and remember about those characters I doubt they ever got the equivalent of being constantly featured and playable with unique gameplay in every major game up to that point, as well as defeating one of the biggest and strongest villains while being treated by the story as equivalent to the protagonist. Silver was the newcomer, and making the newcomer cool is series tradition. He has to go Super Silver because the newcomer before him was Shadow and they just had to try to outdo that, while Tails and Knuckles managed to be cool and popular on their ownAll this complaining did was prevent them from being playable for so long. I hope we get a new playable character in the next 3D game. Preferably male since we got so many female characters lately
If you like JP Sonic, you don't like Sonic
>>538055906The Master Emerald has no narrative importance. Why do you all keep pushing this meme trying to make Knuckles sound way more important than he actually is.
>>538056501Shadow
If you like Sonic, you don't like Sonic
Sonic team treats the secondary character a tad bit better than the Dragon Ball franchise does because atleast in Sonic the secondaries still havent been completely eclipsed by sonic shadow and silver and can still be playable in current games
If you are Krack/Duo, you don't like Sonic
>>538056591tl;dr sex with shadow
>>538056454Oh wow, you made up a person in your head to be mad about. You have a lovely imagination, you should write fiction.
>>538056591Shadow likes Sonic, SEGA didn't make Sonic x Shadow Generations for the LIKES OF YOU to deny Sonic x Shadow exists and is canon and SEGA approved and Sonic Team approved
Sonic characters with this feel https://www.youtube.com/shorts/0XvZq9ffAxoKnuckles
Silver biggest op in the future is a fucking toddler
if you ship sonic, you don't like sonic
>>538055906>muh narrative purposeOh fuck off. He sits on Angel Island all day because SEGA treats these characters like mascots and wrings their hands about committing to any world building or canon. He's a treasure hunter, he's expressed angst about being stuck on Angel Island back in the first adventure game. There's more to his character than "Muh mountain" you stupid faggot. People don't want Knuckles away from the island just so he can appear in shit, they want him away so he can operate more dynamically and actually have interesting adventures, solo or otherwise, without having to grapple with the big greene ememerad in the room. People here love to mock him and suggest they vault the character because he doesn't do shit, but then when you try to suggesting remedies you freaks are here to scream about how it would ruin his character if he was no longer stuck there.
>>538056898Sonadow...saved Sonic?
>>538056898Do you guys believe that theory thay intentionally named the game this way to ofuscate sonadow porn on google images
I crafted everything until now. And yet, YOU DENY ME?!
>>538056984I had to look up what corn liquor's proof was to understand the joke.>Up to 140 proofJesus fucking Christ, that man went comatose after that vid.
Sonic Racing Crossworlds Metal Sonic rival and item dialogueMetal Sonic vs. Egg PawnCrossworlds rival dialogue Egg Pawn 1/2Metal Sonic: “......”Egg Pawn: “......!”Crossworlds rival dialogue Egg Pawn 2/2Egg Pawn: “......!!”Metal Sonic: “......”Crossworlds item dialogue Egg Pawn 1/2Metal Sonic (Item Hit): “......!”Egg Pawn (Hit by Item): “......”Crossworlds item dialogue Egg Pawn 2/2Egg Pawn (Item Hit): “......”Metal Sonic (Hit by Item): “......!”
Is it really that bad to not like it when Sonic is ooc
>>538057228Not really. Is Sonadow porn such a big issue? Also Rouge and Amy have the most porn yet they don't do anything about it.
>>538057228Nah. The Japanese just name things with X as a substitute for a "&". Hunter X Hunter is "Hunter and Hunter".>>538057457It is natural, but making it into a discourse is annoying.
Is it really that bad to not like Sonic
>>538057575t. no one
>>538056756You can correct me if I'm wrong, but as a Dragon Ball casual my perception of Krilin's usage is that it's more like the Chaotix or maybe even Mighty and Ray, rather than Tails. I watched Dragon Ball Super casually and I remember him showing up briefly in a nostalgiabait flashback arc
>>538056573The Master Emerald has the power all the 7 Chaos Emerald combined and can nulify their powers. Anyone who knows how to use the Master Emerald can easily get super powerfulThat's just one the narrative reasons why Knuckles guards it. The second is about what Knuckles represents, being the still standing mountain and having huge responsebilities contrasting Sonic's free moving wind and having no responsebilites at allI'm not saying Knuckles is more important but that's what so many people here think he is because "he's part of the trio"
>>538057575I have about four characters over him but that's it.
>>538057687Krillin is like what Sega tried to do with Knuckles in the 2000's. He is comic relief that is Sonic's best friend.Yes, I know that would be Tails role, but Knuckles was the comic relief during the 2000's. Tails was just there, he wasn't funny.
>>538057714>The Master Emerald has the power all the 7 Chaos Emerald combined and can nulify their powersNot anymore.
I want Sonic Team to be terrified of ever trying to do something like 06 ever again for how they treated the core 4
>>538058057Shadow's back again, there is no "Core 4"
>>538058079Hello Krack. Have a good day.
Comicfags make these threads as annoying as they possibly can. You come home after a hard day's work and try to relax and here come these freaks to try and force you to accept some Netflix Deathnote level bastardization as a representation of the characters you grew up on.These people can't even remember the last time they saw a results screen. They don't have fond memories of munching dry cereal while screwing around in a hub world. They want to be in your space, with your comics. They want to be included. They are foes. They say they just want to like Sonic, but they will argue that the games should act like the comics.IDW should not exist. It does nothing but encourage conflict and abuse from fans who are only interested in internet clout.
>>538057687Thats the thing, atleast they can make the chaotix tagalong in a new game/comic and it would be believable, krilin would need to get god level to even get close to current goku and vegeta powers, atleast gohan and piccolo are catching upYou also start to understand after DBSuper why is iizuka so deadly afraid of power creep
>>538027798yeah japan ended with the metal virus and thats a good thing end at the highest point of IDW
>SEGA will make a Silver game after all this hype
>>538058163Fuck off
>>538036482MY HERO!
>>538058173Comicfags make these threads as annoying as they possibly can. You come home after a hard day's work and try to relax and here come these freaks to try and force you to accept some Netflix Deathnote level bastardization as a representation of the characters you grew up on.These people can't even remember the last time they saw a results screen. They don't have fond memories of munching dry cereal while screwing around in a hub world. They want to be in your space, with your comics. They want to be included. They are foes.They say they just want to like Sonic, but they will argue that the games should act like the comics.IDW should not exist. It does nothing but encourage conflict and abuse from fans who are only interested in internet clout.
>>538042990Knuxriem in the big 2025?
>>538058173Modernshit make these threads as annoying as they possibly can. You come home after a hard day's work and try to relax and here come these freaks to try and force you to accept some Netflix Deathnote level bastardization as a representation of the characters you grew up on.These people can't even remember the last time they saw a zone clear. They don't have fond memories of munching dry cereal while screwing around in a Sonic Jam. They want to be in your space, with your boost games. They want to be included. They are foes. They say they just want to like Sonic, but they will argue that games should act like their favorite animes.Modern Sonic should not exist. It does nothing but encourage conflict and abuse from fans who are only interested in internet clout.
>>538058057Making them fully playable with all animations and dialogue as well as a minor role in the story? They were treated pretty well, outside of Amy's incredibly awful gameplay. And they haven't been treated that good since, so I guess you got your wish. Congratulations, you ruined and mostly shelved the characters>>538058136There never was>>538058176Yeah, as cool as Hyper Sonic looks, I think Iizuka always had a point
>>538057714You think the source and summit of this character is sitting on a rock "being sonic's opposite"People who care about the character would rather see him be given new narrative opportunities, not forever dealing with the same one SEGA has had over 20 years to do something decent with. At the end of the day, the ME and Angel Island are narrative devices that exist subordinate to Knuckles. They are not all the character is, or should be.
>>538058443What is your point?
>>538058556That you are retarded
>>538058215Gonna be honest, I find that as likely as the freedom fighters ever returning
>>538058443I like this version more
>>538042990Cute N Canon!
https://x.com/Sage_VALE_/status/1963746569850925313Kishimoto continues to be validated.
>>538058634If they didn't use 1 billion dollars to make each game, it could happen.
>>538058057The whole Core shit thing is nothing but for the sake of branding and marketingSonic Team should use whatever characters they want that serves the game they are making
What happened with hessefag? Did he died?
>>538058223>Tails but retarded except when machines are involved>the only memorable thing he does is a very gay scene with tribal KnucklesWhat was the point of all those characters? I know, selling toys, but who would want this one in particular?
>>538049428they could set a Silver game in A future not the future. He is 100% right not everything needs to be stated because the "magic" will be lost.
>>538058754>Writes a worse version of the English versionVery arrogant of Kishimoto-san. The DLC seem to have been written by Toyoda or someone else. He is not a writer.
>"core 4">Amy, Tails, and Knuckles openly don't give a SHIT about each other
>>538057527When I watched Hunter x Hunter I felt like it had a similar appeal as the most engaging parts of SA2's story, but extended throughout the entire series
>>538058758I thought sonic team was barely givena budget before frontiers
The issue is that there is no magic, we have been complaining how underutilized silver has been for the last decade and now we finally get a fucking crumb these mfs think we shouldnt get a look into his future at all? Fuck off with this shit i want my game
>>538050074>chadphiles AND chadfinite based>>538051037Cope
>>538058792The last time I saw one of them, they got ignore and didn't stay long.
>Ian's writing is so hamfisted that Kishimoto now thinks that subtext doesn't exist in american stories
>>538058532>People who care about the character would rather see him be given new narrative opportunitiesOpportunities that actually fits him as a person you mean because Knuckles is not a blank slate character for you to just slap whatever the hell you want on him
I'm having boring ass faggot fatigue, is it time to leave?
>>538058215they need to make him playable first and it seems paramount is kinda interested in him? at leat that was what one leaker said
>>538059295omg honey
>>538059083This is not a sonic's past situation, theres no magic being cockblocked for 15 years on this guy current doings
>>538058963Shadow doesn’t give a shit about literally anyone and people want him to replace those characters
>>538058969I...understand your perspective. I can see the similarity, although Hunter X Hunter has that kind of Jojo fight where the characters pull some bullshit to win the day, not just punch harder. Haven't seen HXH in years so excuse me if I'm misremembering.
I am not a fan of Ian but I don't know how anyone can read that quote from Kishimoto and not hear an extremely naive man. This isn't even japanese culture being insular. That guy isn't very bright.Space between the lines? You mean having Knuckles dialogue be changed to " I want to protect the master emerald and I would die for it" ? That's so subtle.How about Sage constantly revealing that Eggman is her leader to Sonic and Sonic just arbitrarily not knowing what she's talking about? Yes, Japanese Frontiers is more in-character, but it's garbage.
>>538058963i can see amy and knuckles unironically work but yeah tails just don't mesh well with those two. Even in the movie it feels forced
>>538059413>>538058969off topic, talk about sonic
I hope one day we get a glimpse of what the original sonic 06 sequel/silver game would have been
>>538058923>Writes a worse version of the English versionNo he didn't. There were a few awkward lines and people use that to say the whole script was ass. Genuinely Kishimoto's arc's for Tails, Amy and Knuckles are significantly better and actually makes sense for their characters as opposed to Ian's shit where Amy's goal is completely vapid, Tails' arc is just a repeat of his SA1 & 2 arcs to apologize for Forces and Knuckles' arc is antithetical to his character.
>>538059167Canadian here...Take him back!
>>538059503People just use the Kishimoto line and ignore what he actually wrote in the game.As I said, Kishimoto is not a writer, and clearly is feeling his age. Flynn for all his flaws is one.
>>538059515Fuck off policefag
>>538059664American here. You can keep him.
When are they hiring Sparky
>>538058223
>>538059413It's probably just them being the same genre, but I never got as engaged whenever I tried to watch One Piece, My Hero Academia, or Dragon Ball (I prefer it for its humor, which is also why I like Dr. Slump better). Yu Yu Hakusho was close, for obvious reasons. I guess Hunter x Hunter might just be the peak of the genre for me>>538059503I'll take in-character garbage over out of character garbage
>>538059837No, you. He belongs to you.
>>538060017no u.
>>538059654Ha. Yeah, right.
Multiple instances of kishimoto getting too cocky and fucking it up, he works best a directing the games than actually doing the heavy work, i dont think he should be fired like how some of you niggas think anyway but theres better people at localizing for EN to JP than him
Tails hubby sucking the bull's cock
The japanese blame Americans for a lot what's wrong with Sonic, for supporting Sonic becoming a gimmick franchise focused on games that are Sonic but werewolf, Sonic but Knight, Sonic but retro, etc. They don’t like the movies, the comics quite frankly don’t really exist out there due to no one buying or ever talking about them which might be why they are so weird about merging the universes.They’re mad at Sega for giving up on marketing Sonic with Shadow gens and Crossworlds, they actually can’t believe Crossworlds is being viewed as a mainline title, they’re mad Sega won’t commit to a canon since it was only recently they finally all agreed they’re fine with X being soft canon, and most of all they hate that Sega even threw out the notion that Sonic should be compared to Mario
>>538060006It's a very good show, and one could wish Sonic was more like it, but no one at Sonic Team nor the IDW staff or anyone else has the same passion and creativity as the creator of HXH.
>>538059269Are you still trying to push this idea that everyone who disagrees with you wants to molest his characterization? He's a treasure hunter, he thinks being confined to the island is existentially troubling. He's demonstrated familiarity with ancient cultures that aren't just the echdinas. That's more than enough to work with.
>>538060345Where are you getting this from
>>538060271Frontiers has a bad story, Kishimoto's changes to the script are still improvements and should have been in the English version as well. Ideally the game would have had a good story to begin with>>538060410True
Sonic being like the wind isn't debatable to me and I don't understand the people who argue about it. It's just like how Knuckles being gullible is a matter of fact. But I want to understand. I really want to understand. Go ahead and tell me why you don't like this character concept. Feel free to tell me what you like about IDW too. I want to learn what the deal is behind this conflict.
>>538059556I assure you it's not as grand as you think it would be if Shadow's own game is anything to go by
>>538060236>No argument
>>538060271I mean, I fucking hate what Toyoda wrote with Infinite, but his Sonic Channel stories are alright. And he is the localizer to begin with, so I don't know why Kishimoto didn't hire him for the job in Frontiers.
>>538060017>>538060186JUST FUCKING SEND HIM TO MEXICO.
>>538060560Sonic is a blue hedgehog not wind
>>538060525Wrong
>jap Sageholy fucking boring DOGSHIT
>>538060271Ian's script's should not be localized, they need t be rewritten for the sake of preserving the characters in SOME language. Otherwise IDWnic would become the only Sonic we get.
>>538059556I hope we don’t. Vault Silver
What did she mean by this
>>538060736JP Sage is an idiot
>>538060646I think he means the wind as like an ancient chinese proverb, if the hedgehog is the wind that those who oppose it must be the mountain and the window>>538060746Im not entertaining your schizophrenia
>>538060736>She doesn't call Eggman daddy all the time so she's boring
>>538060627Ni de coña.
>Japanese Sonic twitter is advertising Sonic channel bios>Hasn't added any new characters >Hasn't added anything to the timelineUndefeated
I blame Mobius Unleashed for porn artists constantly giving Amy a Sally-like leotard shaped belly fur that she blatantly doesn't have
The only thing that can defeat The Wind is The Joker - Kim John Un i think
>>538060991>generic as fuck npc lines against other characters than shittalking themyeah sure bro lmao
>>538060345The Japanese never cared about Sonic period
>>538060910Its not schizophrenia to actually give a shit about consistent character writing.
>>538061030Looks better than pure pink body>>538061182>t. schizophrenic
>>538061030Well I thank mobius unleashed for it then because she looks better with it
>>538060910>the windowSonic is the draft
Tails is alone, trapped in a weird, scary, desolate place. A ghostly figure starts bullying him, calling him a failure. Tails feels sad and demotivated by this. This is just that time with Infinite! Luckily, Sonic shows up to help. He starts to free Tails, but Tails is more concerned with his emotional state. His biggest desire is to be cool and confident like Sonic, and to be a good partner that Sonic can rely on. He expresses his fears to Sonic. How does he respond?>OPTION A"You're just a kid Tails, it's okay that you shit yourself lmao, now I'm taking care of this, okay?"Tails concludes that he is fundamentally flawed and needs to take some alone time to go on an off-screen life-changing adventure in which he becomes a completely unrecognizable character>OPTION B"I don't like to admit it, but I rely on you a lot. You are capable and have many achievements. Your help is always valuable to me. I admire you."Tails concludes that he shouldn't let these thoughts take over him, he is reminded of his strength and feels encouraged to work hard. He confidently promises that he will continue to do his best like he has in the pastWhich one is better?
>This white hedgehog is a formidable opponent. I'll have to redirect my system resources from simulating my clothing to combat.>My analaysis indicates a large amount of blood flowing to his penis, is he preparing some kind of psychic attack?
The japs deserve a third nuke for favoring Nintendo over Sega.
>>538061498Does Silver fw human women?
I'm bored. I'm leaving. Remember to wash your face, have a good night sleep, and behave.
Silver is more of a symbol than a character. He showcases that even after Sonic and his friends are long dead, their heroic spirit lives on.
>>538061628In only one person?
>>538061545No bro, imagine the fetishes they'd have after a third one
So I guess we're just straight up not reporting pornography on the thread now. Does this mean I can post Bump lewds?
>>538061565Yes. Shadow is past Sonic and fucks lolis. Silver is future Sonic fucks MILFs.
why these threads are so bad
>>538058871>"the only memorable thing he does is a very gay scene with tribal Knuckles"Do you have a picture?
>>538061817I second
If Sonic fucks human women then Blaze (Sonic Negative) gets fucked by human men.
Silver is The Light, intangible and blistering even when The Dark consumed allHe also likes human women
Shadow's girlfriendShadow's loverShadow's soulmate
>>538061883this looks more like a sonic pose than a cream pose
>>538061359Knowing Ian>OPTION C:>"NOTHING IN LIFE MATTERS!"Because everything will be forgotten by the next game apart from few references and song lyrics
>>538061970What's the difference between Sonic and CreamBoth of them are the wind
>>538061970Cream should get hype moments and aura
>>538061918>>538061925Only good posts itt
I need to shit
>>538062186ThisI love advance 2
>>538061925Sonic is the wind. Freedom, independence, living life by your own rules, doing what you truly think is right even if the world tells you you're wrong. Disliking oppression and while not calling himself a hero lends a helping hand to those by his side. Being the gale of fate when the world looks like it's falling apart. If Sonic is the wind then Silver is the divine wind. An unknown force here to bring forth light in the darkness and he's here to help. If Sonic is heroic then Silver will give everything to give people a chance at a bright future, including Sonic himself. The very nature of this means that Silver comes in to help Sonic when he "failed", even if that's not the intention of Sonic Team, as they want Silver to have a chance to be another valued friend of Sonic and his world
>>538062101I described Tails' story in Frontiers, Ian wrote Option A, Kishimoto replaced it with Option B. Funnily Kishimoto's version comes closer to using song lyrics since Tails says something like "so there are things only I can do", which is similar to Believe in Myself. Although that might just be a consequence of Kishimoto's writing actually respecting the character profiles, rather than an intentional reference
>>538061928is Krack
Sonia the Hedgehog
>>538062354trvth nvke
>>538061359Option C The ghost rapes tails
>>538062186>hype>auraYou're brainrotted
>>538062494BUILT FOR TAILS
>>538062104Since when was Cream loli Sonic?
>>538061753>>538023126
>>538062186Would it make her cooler than Tails or Silver?
>>538062747Since inceptionShe is free like the wind, but even more free than Sonic because she's a kidShe's fast, strong, can turn into a ball, fly, etc.
>>538062693No I’m a male that enjoys male centered ideas and topics like characters actually being cool. Take your faggot ass back to tumblr
>>538062747Cream is Loli Sonic (Female Tails (Female Shota Sonic (Girl Kid Sonic)))
>>538062851>She is free like the windSchooled be it home>because she's a kidWith restrictions, a home, and curfew like what?Cream is a child that lives by rules and regulations with a mother.
>>538062886I still remember when we could refer to cool and masculine things with words that weren't Zoomer brainrot terminology like hype and aura
>>538062186Cream was vaulted for a reason. And a failed replacement in Adv 2
>>538063190What's wrong with some new terminology? I don't use those terms but I don't see what's so bad about them
>>538063269>>538063269>>538063269
>>538061817https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=01oOmyYLEYgLast 10 seconds. This character pisses me off so much, I don't like the idea of "character but acts completely retarded" being shown, but then a lot of Prime pisses me off anyway
>yeah bro everyone loves Ian the hack flynn
>>538063342They're overused and this caused them to lose their cool sound
>>538063812Fair
>>538063190only Boomers are allowed be masculine men it seems
What would you order from them?
>>538068590milk
