Riverfire editionThread theme: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=De_DgeLDXVgPrevious mission: >>536131267 >/aceg/ Emulation Guidehttps://rentry.org/ybyx6>Official /aceg/ multiplayer guidehttps://rentry.org/acegMPguide>/aceg/ livery and emblem packhttps://rentry.org/3tokr>Ace Combat 3: A New Translationhttps://pastebin.com/i6sfa9aK>Encyclopedia Strangerealhttp://www.encycstra.net/>New /aceg/ MEGAhttps://pastebin.com/aYYx2UKm>PA Twitter (JP)https://twitter.com/PROJECT_ACES>AC7:Shootout Saturday is back! /aceg/ rooms are open every Sat at 2030 CEST/1430 EDT, with only three rules:>put on an /aceg/ tag in your name before you boot the game>no EML/QAAM/SASM>in Roca Roja, use only air-to-ground weapons in the tunnel>Resources:https://pastebin.com/CZWp7rzqThe modding guide and material are in the open!https://rentry.org/ho8mmProject Wingman:>Store pagehttps://pastebin.com/NBXczRv8>Skin/texture modding guidehttps://pastebin.com/ykPhc6hnMisc Stuff:>/aceg/ Collagehttps://i.imgur.com/wP9NNDv.png>/aceg/ Story Archive 2.0https://pastebin.com/1FLC4YyV>Razgriz Patch Guyhttps://www.strangerealpatches.com/>Ostrich's Modshttps://superostrich.xyz/>/aceg/ Assault Recordshttps://pastebin.com/CrfiDhxM>ACX / ACJA Online Netplay Guidehttps://pastebin.com/Pk1aJsTx>SPECIAL MESSAGE TO /aceg/ FROM PIXY:https://www.cameo.com/v/qSL5bOosg>What happened to Sean Ryan (Pixy's actor) after ACZ:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qat5kEtrrpk>/aceg/ Permalink:http://orph.link/acegBecause it bears repeating:>Skill and guts are required here>Be a buddy, not a border>All planes are beautiful dreams>DELAY THE FINAL ATTACKFAQ:>Has the Project Wingman update dropped yet?Haha...>Is there any AC8 news yet?No.>Has a PS2 trilogy remake been announced yet?No.
Slow day huh
>>538091275Some days are like that you just want to be lazy and sleep
>>538091761Just get a guy to stand on the other wing, she'll be right.
castlevania but it's planes
Kasha recap post.I have this catgirl character named Kasha who I want to use in a number of game projects. I've been building a universe with her since I was in junior high - I think I've had this character for about 24 or 25 years by now. She is a small catgirl with a magic shapeshifting tail who likes playing ball games and lives with a giant tiger woman named Milchi.I have a bunch of Kasha projects being made.. Don't know which to focus on. Wish I could just focus on my fighting game. But I know that if I don't focus on making and releasing a game as complete as I can make it then my fighting game has no hope of being good.I have three projects with my catgirl in various states of development.Kasha vs Kritters - arcade style game about defeating enemies, actively in development, several levels and enemies are made already.Hole-in-Nyan - 3D PS1-style minigolf game, prototype made godot. Trying to figure out how to proceed, want to learn 3D gamedev pipeline.Untitled Kasha "Big Platformer" - this one's a larger game. It is an action platformer in the style of Super Mario World where Kasha treks around the country in search of her mama and meets several adoptive mamas. It's a big classic adventure where she turns her tail into stuff.https://psychojosh.itch.io/kasha-catcha - Tiny gamejam game I made with Kasha/Milchi.https://psychojosh.itch.io/kasha-vs-kritters-alpha-demo - Demo of KVK.
>>538092482But but the entire wing is covered in no step stickers we can't stand on the wing
>>538093717sis, this is the ace combat general
>>538093717Did you post in the wrong general?
>>538087895>/aceg/lol
>>538093717
Looking at flightradar I see a C-17 flying to the frozen lands of Antarctica. You don't see that everyday.
>>538093717Plens?
>>538097070Spring's finally come around so they can run operations down there again.
>>538000529Bamco is sitting on its arse for so many IPs it's not even funny
>>538093717><<By the way, PJ stands for Patrick James.>>><<And I like cat girls. You know, girls with cat ears and tails? ... Maybe we should just get going now.>>
One of these days I'm going to go to Riverfire.
>>538125353They went downhill after 2019, allegedly they were so shit to work with that ArcSys almost quit FighterZ development ( probably Bamco demanded the roaster to be cut into dozens of DLC pieces ).All bamco does is to hold licenses so other companies cant make games, like when Ubisoft made a good Naruto game that made CC2 look like junk in 2007. When they decide to make something "meh our boys at Spike Chunsoft" always end in pure shit like with Jump Force or Sparking
Everyone playing silk song or something?
>>538192231That and what the fuck is there to talk about until Kono gets off his ass and gives us a trailer
>>538201287What was his I only work one day a week tweet this week?
What shes staring to get that happy ?
>>538209602SALVATION!!!!
>that new report damning the USAF and stating that the PLAAF is surpassing itit's bleak
>>538214086Oh its time of year again is it?
>>538214817wat
>>538216023huh
>>538216417hmm...
>>538209602AC8 news
>>538214086f35 block 4 delayed out to 2029, 2030...deindustrialization and financialization of the economy may have had some side effects
>>538209602BWC
>why yes, i am belkan, how did you know?
>>538232127because you are posting pictures of other men
>>538232127
>>538232127>Still no Belkan protagonist
>>538087895Maybe I'm seeing things that aren't there but it feels like there's a higher chance this image is used in the OP whenever we fail to reach the bump limit on the previous thread.
>>538087895Bump!
taking off
I HAVE SO FAR TO GO
AC6 had the best gameplay in the series bar none.
>>538330167i think high g turns kinda suck as a mechanic but it does make me sad that 7 went back on a lot of what 6 did mechanically, it would've been cool to at least have the resupply airfields in the same map
i have to post this here because the gran turismo general is dead and buried, sorry buddies>mfw i had a dream last night where i was racing a ford GT40 against ferrari 512s at le mans in gran turismo 7 in a proper career mode>mfw i woke upi am still so mad and bitter about how GT7 was handledthe fundamentals and base features are awesome, everything is in place for the ideal racing game so all they need to do is add a career mode and more races and what do they do? ...absolutely none of thatwe were THIS close to having the perfect racing game but they just don't give a shit anymore; all we get is a slow drip-feed of updates consisting of a few cars and boring races for them every month or twoif GT8 ever comes out, i hope it bombs :(
>>538335731Planes and cars do mix rather well
>>538342110trvth tsvnami
>>538343000Why are car vs plane races so fun to watch even when you know what the outcome will be?
>>538344352they look cool, simple as
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dF50OXkB2wE
>>538335731I feel it.I was heartbroken with the lack of racing events in career mode. And i hate the cafe books its so annoying.Could be worse look at FM8, fucken hell.
>>538260817cipher
BUY HABICHT
>>538372343Source?
>>538386937it came to me in a dream
>>538386092Oh man I forgot about the over-wing pylons.
Thinking about a little thread activity we could do next month, will reveal what I got in mind on the first of October.
GCAP at DSEI 2025I miss the cranked-arrow concept desu
>>538416771Is that the first time we've seen an IWB positions for GCAP? I swear the other models didn't have them.Those side bays look a bit big for a single Fox-2.
>>538416771>spoilerIt really looked like a stealthy Chimera.
>>538386092UPGRADE NOW TO THE SEAD VERSION
>>538421761>when I haven't even gotten the ACES upgrade
huh lol what Kono ??>don't know wtf I am doing, they don't let me make Assault Horizon 2and I forgot how the PS2 games worked anyway>Someone notices and tries to get me fired>"Boss" saves my ass and tells me to get my stuff together >Still making a shit game tho AC7 wasn't a disaster neither a bad game but this a pure admission of incompetence wtf
>>538443028small indie company please understand
your best screenshots?
>>538443028Did Kono really want to make AH2?
A perfect world, without restrictions or wars.
>>538486412btw the deep lore with AWWNB is that they're just yet another Arthurian reference, specifically the geese from The Once and Future King
>>538486412WRONG I still see COASTLINESTherefore, A World With No Boundaries shall explore several options,including the detonation of several thermonuclear devices in the polar ice caps,in the near future. Stay tuned!
>>538485067The F-35 is front wheel drive? I hate it now
>>538486412That's a whole lot of pixels.
>>538416771>Su-47 in back ground imageWut?Can't wait to see this plane in Japanese ocean blue camo>>538418803No surprise an older British concept plane looks a lot like her.>Brits make concept in the 80's-90's>/aceg/ creates plane around the same ideas form follows function after all>Brits put a stealthy version into productionThe circle is complete.
F-35A in an RAF livery probably
>>538552575They are planning on buy 12 A's
The pilot called LM tech support and after 50 mins they still couldn't fix the problem. LM needs better tech support.https://www.cnn.com/2025/08/27/us/alaska-f-35-crash-accident-report-hnk-ml
In any of the AC games which plane do you find the hardest to use in cockpit mode?Myself I find A-6 & Su-34 cockpit mode hard to use for the main reason of you can't look right
>>538565831MiG-31. Too much framing, no upwards visibility.
plane
>>538565831All planes in every game, I can't satisfy my Need for Speed from the inside of a virtual cockpit and what's the point of flying if I can't feel the speed or look at the pretty planes.
>>538593791RL AC7. The only thing left is people skydiving while the jet passes by.
>>538594309Yeah but we need to Assuie it a little since that is a RAAF bugWe'll have roo's boxing people while the jet passes by.
>>538593437Cool
plen (hop)
>>538633471That mobile game that just flat out stole the Shiden
>>538416771>>538615368This images are nice as you can see how the design has grown and changed over the years.
Today, I woke up remembering that time Pakistan BTFO'd India's Rafales with their J-10s. J-10 for AC8, please.
>>538652654>India>Competent military planningPick oneYou'll get J-20 if your lucky and thats it
6 years ago today in Strangereal DLC #2 takes place.
>>538655223I don't get how they managed to fuck that up, the only thing that comes to mind is they left their meteors in some other airbase or MBDA hasn't delivered them yet (even though it's been 4 or 5 years since India bought them) and that's why they only found MICA's parts.
>>538680458Indian generals and Russian generals come from the same gene pool of stupid?Yeah I got nothing beyond these guys are fucking idiots.
>>538655223J-20 definitely should be in to round out the endgame trifecta with the F-22 and Su-50. Even if I think the endgame planes should be made up of OCs like in X.J-10 would be nice though. Starter trifecta with the F-16 and MiG-29. Maybe replace one of the Flankers with one of them J-whatevers.
>>538684326>Su-50They haven't used the prototype since Infinity Anyway J-20 is really the only one I expect to see in as its the most well known Chinese plane today>replace a FlankerAnon........Kono would sooner cut off his own dick than remove a Flanker from the game with out replacing it with another newer Flanker
I wonder if the Pilot and his WSO ever knew thier plane was featured in 3 AC games
>>538686657>Anon........Kono would sooner cut off his own dick than remove a Flanker from the game with out replacing it with another newer Flanker>Starter trifecta with the F-16 and MiG-29. Maybe replace one of the Flankers with one of them J-whatevers.
F-35 can add some more drone marks to her kill sheet as she was sent to deal with the Russian drones that flew into Poland.
>>538686657They should add it simply because its actually kind of visually unique relative to the current stable of stealth fighters.
>>538087895https://youtu.be/nU5XSnzryCA?si=EO779BaGKO-rBncu
I thought I didn't like Chinese planes because I'm racist and see them as the enemy but after working through it and looking at them again I've come to the realization that they're ugly and that's it.
>>538713876No, you were just retarded. It's alright though.
>>538686657Easy, replace the weird strangereal CATOBAR Su-33 with a J-15T.
next game better include the su-75 since that plane will be finished and in service before the game is out
>>538733246In 2078?
>>538737803yeah
>>538733246>Su-75>Finished and in serviceMuwhahahahahahhaI'm ok now BuwuwhahahahhhahhahahhahhahaBut it will have Su-75 as Kono did mention they got to work on modeling it the day it was shown off.
75 isn't bad for just playing around on the mission
>Watashi wa supīdo no hitsuyōsei o kanjiru!
>>538762794>iron gate openedwtf?
>>538779456Never played 5?
>>538780212Yes and I dont remember seeing that in any debriefing
>>538781538Mission # is on the screen that is Cruik Fortress. That is the only thing you see in the debrief. It'll only show up in free mode as story mode sends you right into the 8492 mission.
>>538782094>It'll only show up in free modeOk that explains it thenNever done that mission in free
>>538782685???Why have you never played it in free mode? Its a short very fun ground attack mission
>>538784771>very fun>ground attack
>>538789472Yeah by seeing how fast you can do itDo it guns onlyPlaying around with bombing runs at different speeds to see if you hit anything or not.Just laugh like a madman as you drop FAEB all over the place.Play the mission at an alt of 5 the entire time like this
Is it possible that AC8's slow development is a result of the shift to UE5? You know that they'd never let it release if it wasn't silky smooth, and UE5 is a massive piece of shit.
>>538794545I really, really hope they look at the recent cases of botched optimization in other games and actually try, but I dunno. Most Asian games that use UE5 are impacted especially hard with this issue right now and I'm afraid AC8 won't be the exception.
>>538794545have you taken a look at the average time spent on gamedev in the past 6 yearshalf decade cycles is the norm now, shit just takes a lot longer due to the fidelity of assets demanded by gaymers
Looking at Flight radar a Mirage F1 was flying around Phoenix a few minutes ago.
>>538798491Is Draken International there? Who else operates F1s?
>>538858856So that's number two in service?
In my restless dreamsI see that plen
>>538882006Quiet SuperSonic Technology
Should be able to make it to the Shootout tomorrow, buddies.
>>538852551I do like how everyone just agrees Huxian could roll Count like a pretzel.
>>538831362This was ATAC with that F1
LAMO
The rarely seen F-2B
>>538925942Cool
Silent plen
PLENS!!!
The Eurofighter Consortium is looking to integrate APKWS onto the Typhoon, to help counter the drone threat
Poland's Su-22 fleet has finally been retired.
>>538794545ue5 isn't even that bad, devs stopped doing good optimization well before UE5i wouldn't be surprised if AC8 comes out running like shit though, I don't expect any AAA game to run well nowdays
>>538983638its a very lazy criticism imo, and shifts the blame from dev management not prioritizing QA and optimization to some nebulous problem toolthat said, I think PA is small and passionate enough to keep things running well, and it is in fact possible to have a UE5 game run smoothly
anyone up for a shootout?
Should I:>buy a CD key for AH>emulate ACX>emulate AC2I've played 1,3,4,5,0,7
>>539002891Emulate 2 and X
>>539002891Emulate 2 and X.
>>539002891>buy a CD key for AH? That's not an ace combat game
>>539017789What about HAWX
>>538965546You know what this means don't you?in 8 GRKT's will not only be useful instead of worthless and also be an option on nearly all western planes
>>539034654They better not launch a whole fucking salvo with a single press, too, fuck dumping all my GRKTs on a single target.
>>539036017imagine if the game let you paint individual desired targets instead of wasting 8 rounds on a single supply truck
>>539036017Yes that is why I said useful instead of worthless. They are worthless in 7. Just as bad as the multi target missiles that like to target the same thing 3-4 times.>paint individual desired targets instead of wasting 8 rounds on a single supply truckYeah this so much this
>>539002891Emulate 2 and X.2 is full on Top Gun missionary. (Good thing)And X is difficult and rewarding. (Also good thing) It’s audio mastering is charming and the OST has some cool electronic rock tracks, and what is widely considered to be the scariest single track in the Ace Combat series.
>>539002891Emulate 2 & X you'll have a far better time and don't forget the skin pack for X
>>539043583dron
>>539026354HAWX is awesome.
Why did I think Ace Combat 7 had co-op online like Ace Combat Infinity did? Am I stupid? Anyway I finished AC7 and had a good time
>>538552328It's a shame AC2 is the only game featuring herShe didn't even get into the remake :(
The F-35 is my favorite plane in the series and I don't care if that makes me boring or basic.
Ace Combat game in korean war era when
>>539083159It needs more weapon options that actually stay in its internal bays. Give it UGBs or something.
>>539087643>ugbsmaybe if the f35 was made by russians, it'd be more fitting to give it to the su-57 (t-50 transmog)
>>539094465UGBs are way more useful in Ace Combat than PGMs by virtue of having a blast radius worth a damn.
>>539056182Did you do DLC missions too? Cos you should.
Should AC8 have out-of-plane gameplay between stages? I don't mean anything that takes a ton of development time, but stuff like talking to your wingman, squadron or commanding officers. Reading newspapers. I think it would allow for more character development and worldbuilding than the games typically offer and it means you don't have to look to artbooks or developer interviews.
>>539105747are you sure you would like to play airforce delta strike 2
>>539105747I know it's something I'd want to include if I ever made an Ace-like, but I feel it's not something PA would do. Doesn't seem like the kind of game they like to make. I also envisioned the player's quarters as a diegetic collectable viewer, like Doom Eternal's hub. Defeated Aces and unlocked aircraft would be on display as Scale Models, like in Zero. There'd be a record player to listen to the OST. A Computer to read Codex entries. That sort of thing.
>>539105747part of the enduring ace combat appeal is that it still sticks to its arcade cabinet roots by having zero fluff or filler outside of 2 minute long avg cutscenes in between fighter jet gameplayso no
>>539106179Only ever played Airforce Delta Storm on Xbox and the controls felt like ass, also didn't like losing your aircraft after a crash.
>>539102871Oh I didn't know it had DLC, I'll cop
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LReZ4ejDjpwVideo about the recent GAO report on the F-35 program and its issues. The main thing I get from it is that actual problems with the plane are the software, landing gear, and engine life, while the program is horrendously mismanaged. But saying a US MIC project is mismanaged is like saying water is wet. Apparently the next upgrade package is being heavily scaled back just so it can focus on fixing the landing gear issues.https://www.gao.gov/products/gao-25-107632The GAO report itself if you wanna read for yourself and get all the autistic details.
>>539120202>The main thing I get from it is that actual problems with the plane are the software, landing gear, and engine life,so of course they had the great idea to not go ahead with PWs planned adaptive cycle engine swapout...
>>539122159That would be too smart and actually save money, so of course.
>>539116863You can skip the planes unless you really like them, but the missions are fucking mental with how good they are. The plot is also extremely satisfying.
>>539120202>the next upgrade packageWhat was it supposed to entail?
>>539120202>But saying a US MIC project is mismanaged is like saying water is wet.By definition water is not wet, it makes everything else wet. Which arguably fits US MC even better.
>>539142463I don't the specifics but Block 4 was supposed to include 53 capability upgrades, which was then jacked up to 66, and they were somehow supposes to have all this ready by 2026. Now those Block 4 upgrades aren't expected to come until the 2030's at earliest, and it won't be all of them either. At least that's what I'm understanding from the report, if someone smarter than me has a better understanding hopefully they chime in.>>539142945Good point actually. One thing I really don't like about the report though is that it seems to really downplay the DOD's hand in how the program has been handled. Most of the blame is being put on thr contractors, which is probably true but they aren't blameless either.
>>539165209This is the kind of picture that makes a 5 year old boy decide he wants to join the Marines.
>>539166189Gotta acquire the taste for crayons early.
When it comes to ace combat (and AC clones) how important are these things?>Realistic military hardware (or 'legally distinct' planes that might as well be the real planes)>Plane choicesWould an AC game that only had like 3 base plane 'types', and many options or upgrades for them be good enough for you, or do you want to be able to pick from a large selection of distinct planes with their own characteristics?Also I guess for you what ARE some of the most important things that make an Ace Combat game what they are other than the basic moment to moment gameplay?
>>539173648>or do you want to be able to pick from a large selection of distinct planes with their own characteristics?definitely this, AC doesnt have the mechanical depth to justify only having a small handful of types to flywhat makes an AC game great to me is having a simple but well performed story, missions that generally hew to what IRL air combat missions usually do, but with the systems involved abstracted to the simplest it can get, and generally mission lengths that dont drag on too long, under 25 minutes i'd say. this lends itself to that "pick up and play" that makes replaying each game so easy and welcoming.fictional designs are also welcome, as long as they actually look cool
>>539173648>Realistic military hardwareExtremely important, I don't mind the concept of original planes but rarely are they actually cooler than the real thing, if real planes aren't an option for one reason or another I'd say something similar to Ace Combat 3's futuristic variants work well, even their weirder adaptions of real planes look alright but as soon as you get to the PA originals everything looks like shit. >Would an AC game that only had like 3 base plane 'types', and many options or upgrades for them be good enough for you?No, Ace Combat's gameplay is too simple for it to work. You need to be at at least War Thunder "realistic" level for it to work and a heavier emphasis on horizontal progression than what you have in 7 or X. Even if all the systems are in place with that little variety I'd expect for the upgrades to at least change how the plane looks too, if I got better maneuverability I'd expect TV engines, slats or something along those lines, if I want to reduce my radar signature I expect internal weapon bays or at least a stealthier looking desing, IRST if I need to increase my standard missile range, etc.
I no longer dream about planes.
>>539106179Yes actually, that game was retarded but it had some neat ideas.
she picked the A-10 for it....
she is not gonna use the a-10 for it..
the lighthouse beckons us
>>539105747Ace Combat 04 through Zero structured their main menus to look like or be reminiscent of terminal software from the 80s and 90s. I would say instead of out-of-plane gameplay segments, lean more heavily into the software theme. Add stuff like:>Digital newspapers >emails communication from important characters (like PS2/PSX era Armored Core games)>"intelligence reports" on SP weapons and aircraft that give more detailed, precise stat numbers compared to what we see in the selection screen (i.e. speed, mobility, stability, etc...) and maybe a five-view drawing of the plane/weapon>relief maps of the terrain for the next mission>a digital Strangereal globe not using satellite imagery, but using lines to represent borders, maybe showing radar of civilian flight traffic, military movements, global weather, etc... something interesting to look at that changes on a per-mission basis>And of course, all the other menu features from previous games: Assault records, medals, timelines, and all that good stuffI think stuff like this would give the player fun reasons to linger on the main menu before a mission, and serves 99% of the purpose of what the out-of-plane gameplay would. If this stuff is archived so that you can see previously unlocked things at any point, this would also let the player revisit and re-contextualize previous lore materials as the campaign progresses and as he does his 2nd, 3rd, 4th play-throughs. Maybe some of the textual stuff is only unlocked on Ace difficulty.
>>539173648>Would an AC game that only had like 3 base plane 'types', and many options or upgrades for them be good enough for youThat would only work if the game had sim characteristics like modeling each plane's unique weapon controls and radars and whatnot, and Ace Combat is not about thatSo no, give me a fuckhuge selection of simple planes instead
>>539173648>Realistic military hardware (or 'legally distinct' planes that might as well be the real planes)Non-negotiable. Even in AC3, two thirds of the plane list were still real fighters and demonstrators with a COFFIN bolted on top of the canopy.>Would an AC game that only had like 3 base plane 'types', and many options or upgrades for them be good enough for youNo. Not because I'm against the idea, but because Project Aces has been trying to make plane customisation work since ACX and Innocent Aces, and has repeatedly failed since to add more depth to the gameplay through those mechanics.Not like this post will stop them from trying again.>what ARE some of the most important things that make an Ace Combat gameThe music, the story, the overall aesthetic, and the briefings.
>>539222386>Image for ants
https://youtu.be/eijZzgFGNA8?si=4PrnAFL3nkh8H7DS>YWN fly with your actual IRL girlfriend
>>539225608At this rate I'll never actually fly to begin with which is worse.
>>539222386>>539212368>>539177881>>539176860How much does it have to make sense that the game is using realistic aircraft in-universe? If you had a sci-fi story where you were fighting invaders from another planet, and the invaders showed up in an interplanetary blimp and then deployed sukhois would that be too immersion breaking or does that not matter so much?Like Project Wingman is like 500 years in the future and you fly around in an F4 - do you find that problematic?
>>539245326>Like Project Wingman is like 500 years in the future and you fly around in an F4 - do you find that problematic?We're playing these games to fly iconic fighter jets. The problem here lies in the scenario, not the gameplay premise.
>>539246067But I'm asking if that IS a problem for you, or if you don't care and are happy to fly an f4 against the advanced alien forces or whatever? Like O don't think I care, the gameplay would be the same and I'm here for cool fighter planes, but I could imagine some people would care.
>>539245326>the invaders showed up in an interplanetary blimp and then deployed sukhois would that be too immersion breakingYes, but it only applies to them for being aliens with no connection to us and I'd even forgive it if it was an alienfied variant of a plane with a flimsy excuse of them stealing a design that seems to work well in our atmosphere.On the other hand if the human Saturn Defense Force used F-15 shaped spaceships capable of space flight and equipped with lasers instead of a gun with the only reson given being someone thought it'd look cool I'd find it odd but tolerable.
>>539245326>Like Project Wingman is like 500 years in the futureDoes it? I didn't knowThen again I barely had any fucking clue what the story was to begin with
>>539173648>>539245326>>539246695Are you making a game anon?
>>539252734Not really right now. I've built some AC clone mechanics in UE4 a while back, nothing worth writing home about, but fun to fly around in. And as an unrelated thing, for years I've had a sci-fi plot device in mind that afaik is pretty original and would make for cool set pieces and I just realized that the plot device would fit really well into AC style levels as a set piece that also offers some interesting level ideas that would tie into gameplay in a cool way that's not just like a tunnel run. I'm not sure if it's technically even possible to do what I'd want to do though in a game engine, so I've just been pondering what would be realistically able to set things up in a universe that made sense for the kind of tech level I'd need while still fitting into a vague AC-like framework.If I ever did get any of this off the ground I could prototype out the minimum stuff and unknowns and always just pay people to help expand the plane selection if anything seemed promising since it does seem like it's pretty important to people (honestly I almost always just RP as whatever the canon plane for the protag is as soon as it's available so plane selection isn't really that important to me), I always intended to do that for any music and at least some of the art and just using placeholder stuff until things had started to come together pretty substantially.
>>539212304yeah an ingame codex does 99 percent of what people who want le vn about your squadron in between gameplay want (doing worldbuilding)
Floppy flanker
>>539257530get shoboyuski to do your fakeplane designs
>>539259091I found the codex entries in PW more interesting than the actual story. I didn't mind Hitman squadron, but the last mission where it's just Crimson 1 spazzing out without anyone to counter him just sucked dialogue wise.
>>539270630its relative, personally found the codex entries to be that kind of vaguely irritating "deviantart OC background" prose that plagues a lot of indiedev writing.
J-15DH, two seat EW variant.
>>5392123043 did some of these things, so it's totally possible
https://store.steampowered.com/app/3639060/DELIVERY_MUST_COMPLETE/new flight game to follow
>>539289341how daring, another epic low poly cel shaded indie fighter jet game with press X do totally radtastic tubular stunts gameplay...
>>539291139with Ultrakill-ish combo UIshit is boring
>>539289341>Acelike
>>539289341>SMOKIN>SUKHOI>STYLE
I've finally been playing project wingman. Do the wingmen get much characterization? I'm only a couple of missions in but there hasn't been much mission banter so far.
>>539301437A good chunk of the banter is tied to Prez, so you miss most of it if you're not flying a two seater.
>>539289341Touched by shit-Midas(FAN). Ignoring.
>>539275790I thought he must've been deliberately describing something closer to 3 without explicitly namedropping it lmao
>>539289341Ugly art style, pass.
>>539289341not the style or what i'm looking for in an flight game but a lot of you guys are being majorly gay about this
>>539311018It looks like extreme hyperstimulation for ADHD zoomer brains.
>>539289341I dont mind the style and it might be one of these dumb fun to play for some hours kind of games, they should really do something about the plane spazzing the fuck out everywhere though and why its always a roguelike>>539299195Goddammit
>>539289341>roguelikeHow to make me lose all interest in a game immediately.
>>539257530You got any social media or any things like that to shill? I'd love to stalk you and see your progress even if it's barely-existent.
>>539096659The last time PGM were worth anything was in 4 as the PGM has the same blast radius of a UGBL in that game>Might have something to do with the PGM being a JDAM instead of a GPB which has zero use in these games.
>>539272196>codexI didn't even realize PW had a codex. Given the writing style of the dialogue, I'm almost fearful to read it. Don't get me wrong, I loved the game and thought the overall story was good, but the dialogue writing and delivery was... not particularly good, to say the least. Like all of the cheese/anime style of AC5 with almost none of the charm. It's further hurt by the shoehorning of pop culture references. It's entirely possible I'm just jaded and cynical, but "Oh Dust Mother, not the bees!" is physically painful to hear every time.
>>539289341I don't mine the art style I have a couple of other plane games that look the same just with no spazzing out like this one does.>Every map is procedurally generated Ughh, a lot of people don't seem to understand what they are doing with this and end in so so to shit areaWhat kills any fun with the game from what I see is how your plane is consistently spazzing out. Otherwise looks like a descent enough time waster of a plane game. IF the plane spazzing is removed or fixed.
>>539312742You can recognize that something isn't made for you without attaching buzzwords to your sentence to try and sound cultured on the subject
you Ace Combat connoisseurs sure know many flight games. Can you recommend any where i am able to customize my plane (in similar fashion as racing games like need for speed and such)? or maybe even build it from scratch.
>>539335490Like this?Its from the After Burner psp game which was a very crappy game to play try it if you want but be warned its bad.
>>539335490SimplePlanes comes to mind.Ace Combat 7 and X also allow some customization, although very little of it is visual
>>539335490Sky Odyssey is the only game I know that has such system, without going into plane creation stuff like Flyout.3 starting planes have nice customization options with different wings, tails, fuselages, propellers and other stuff including custom colour options for liveries.The game itself is great and in my opinion anyone who enjoys flight games should play it.
>>539333657Or I can use whatever words I want and you can learn to not be offended by opinions.
>>539338721>Sky Odyssey So what is it? An air racing game or some kind?>Planes go from a biplane to the F-117 sure why not
>>539335490There's Flyout but it's a steep learning curve with a lot of things to tweak and it might or might not be abandonware, and once you've built the plane there's nothing really to do with it other than flying around a procedurally generated Earth-sized map
>>539339015I'm not offended by your opinion I'm offended that we pretend that we can discuss shit here
>>539339564It's an adventure, an odyssey quite literally. You get a destination and complete various missions to get there.There are other game modes but I never found them as interesting as adventure mode.
>>539342216No one's trying to hurt you for going against the general consensus here. Especially not the 4 other people who still post in this thread.
>>539002891I'm playing ACX and this game is hard
>>539345938Alect squadron with Fenrirs is a full bitch to beat
>>539346279I'm only on Mission 8 and I was not expecting a sweaty dogfight this early.
>>539345938On original hardware it is as the stick was poorly designed on the psp. What mission are you having trouble on?
>>539346347Are you playing 8A or 8B?
>>5393465578A Striking Point https://acecombat.fandom.com/wiki/Striking_Point.I know I could make it easier by going the other way but now I want to beat it. The Strike Eagle seems like it should be fine for this mission, but I'm just surprised how aggro the ai this early on. This is some Round Table or 8492nd shit
>>539346808To make up for the psp's hardware limits they jack up the AI aggro level to make the missions more fun.F-15 is fine for the mission. Just make sure to take out choppers, SAMs & AA first as they are a huge pain in X compared to other games. The mission also spawns 5 FB-22's at the same time keep an eye out they vanish off the radar real fast.
>>539346808>fandomI didn't even notice till after I hit post they moved to .gg years agohttps://acecombat.wiki.gg/
>>539348102Oh okay, the fandom wiki always comes up first. Is it abandoned?
>>539348364Yeah it is doesn't look like the fandom one has been updated in a couple of years.
>>539348364Fandom is notoriously aggressive with its SEO. Always check if there's a non-fandom option available whenever you search for a wiki, it will be superior in 95% of cases.
Thanks Grim I really wanted to do this mission a 2nd time.
>>539346808Boom and zoom jousting with the F-15E was the answer. Man I love that plane. I'm noticing a ton of AC3 vibes and references in X, pretty neat.
>>539356705Try it with Fregata FAE are fun here and she does have napalm too if you want a lovely smell in the morning.
>>539358568Is the napalm worth anything in this game? It always seems like a shittier SOD
>>539358648you get to burn leasath scum
>>5393586488A is one of the few missions where you got plenty of ground targets lined up. Yeah it is on that mission plus what >>539360179 said
>>539346557I never got the criticism of the PSP's analog, it always worked fine for me
>>539356693look where you're going dummy
>>539346808If it helps you're not the only one that has trouble with that mission, it's been one of my personal white whales too. Says a lot about this game where a mid-mission event that would be trivial in any other entry is cause enough to shit your pants in this one.
As it turns out the Ghost of Razgriz are in fact actual ghost.
>>538706719That was awesome
Should I hack my og 3DS or just get into Citra? Does the touch screen matter much for AL+?
>>539389562>He doesn't knowNintendo shut Cirta down via the courts you can find older versions of it but be very careful about the one you get a lot of them have very unwanted extra data added to them.No the touch screen has zero use in AL you can easily play it on emu like any normal gameIf you wanna emulate it head over to the emu general and ask those anons for help in getting a clean version of it.
TGA for sure...
>>539386272Rosa a cute
hello buddiesfirst post back here in a few yearsAce Combat 8 WHEN???
>>539420864(very unlikely) a first teaser at TGS this month(most likely) a first teaser august 2026
>>539425184How long in development is the game at this point?
>>539428151preplanning, research probably started around late 2019-2020, they announced that project aces reorganization a little later, full dev probably started around the last DLC for 7 (2022)
>>539430662So based on that, 2026 release should be attainable, right? 4 years of full development is already long enough for a AAA game I'd reckon.
>>5394309644 years is the norm
>>539430964Unless Kono's tism is at full throttle and he's got some new gimmick that isn't working right and won't announce it till they get it right and at least 95% optimized. Letting the game run on even a lower end system.
I wonder if AC8 will be on Switch 2 day one alongside other platforms. Looking at how other Jap devs release even their graphically intensive games to it (RE9, FF7R), surely Bamco would not miss the chance as well.
>>539436250Who knows but it appears that bamco's deal with Nintendo had a falling out, its possible but not likely.
Seems Peru has bought 12 Vipers today
reveal when
heh
>Destroy SOLG before it even enters the map boundry>8 better return superplanes to original statsI know its just the light and shadows at work but that is a nice looking red camo the Falken has might need a bit more dark red in places but still its a nice looking camo for her.
>>539356705Alect Squadron is living up to it's reputation now. I even went the easy way and I can't win.
>>539451145Zoom n Boom, lots of loops, keep that throttle at full as much as possibleIf you have it take this
>>539451145What's the easy way?
>>539453006I attacked them directly before they could get to their Fenrirs. Figured out if you point blank them with XMAAs they won't dodge so you can take out several at once. Still a pretty tough furball
>>539453327What do you mean "before they could get to their fenrirs"You mean the mission before last?
>>539454070Erm, the split path you can attack them directly, or attack some ships. I assume if you go for the fleet, Alect squadron will pilot the Fenrirs in the next battle.
>>539454318You assume correctIf you don't fight them in their S-32 you face them in Fenrirs. How much trouble they are depends on do you do 14A or 14B before you play End of Deception.
>>539454318Okay yesLast mission is a whole different beast if you don't kill Alect first
Whats fun to think about is End of Deception II is canon mission yeah Gryphus 1 went hardcore boss battle and faced an ace squad in superplanes>Singularities.....are different
>>539456092I'll save that one for Ace. Ready to suffer.
>>539456779There's also the secret mission Operation X, that's fun too
>>539436523Jesus that's fuckin cute
>>539436523wholesome
>>539479931Concorde might just be the prettiest plen
>>539480993Sleek, fast, style and she felt like the future is now. Soon a new one shall arrive to carry on the idea.
Anyone else ever took all Hawks for this mission? Its not like it makes it hard or anything Just more of a so many planes to pick from kind of thing I never really did it before.
I'm gonna start building my flight game again
>>539488621Umm ok? and what game was that?
>>539488940It's a game where I fly around and get annoyed at UE's implementation of the lag arm.
>>539488621Follow your dreams, buddy
Thanks to flight tracker I have learned this isn't a one off plane two of them exist
ACX keeps getting cooler the more I think about it. It's the bridge connecting AC3's music/branching paths/fictional planes, the trinity gameplay/story, and 7's parts systems.
>>539491305Its a shame X2 isn’t as good, even though it has better customization.
>>539490502it's one of those "looks cool from some angles, dumb and ugly from some others" planes
>>539491305They probably only managed to pull all of that off because the campaign was so short with simple missions made to be played in quick gaming sessions on a handheld, but the final product is really good.
Low vis bulldog
>>539495108I love the detail in 7 of certain SPWs also adding TGPs on certain aircraft, I hope that returns in 8...
>>539389562>Should I hack my og 3DSThe process is super refined and from a cold start (with no knowledge of how to do it) takes less than an hour. You don't even need to hunt for roms once you install the hshop program, it'll let you search through downloads for the entire 3DS library. Except for Pokemon, for some reason, but those are online.>Does the touch screen matter much for AL+?It doesn't matter at all. It just displays the minimap and is another way to swap SPW.
>>539503617One of the coolest scifi aircraft carriers ever
>>539503906That is a good oneI'll toss in this one as one I happen to like
Partial to the ridiculously large school ships in girls und panzer (the one depicted is one of the very smallest)
Time for more wacky Cold War ideaHas your airstrip had holes blown in it and now you can't launch your planes into battle?Have you considered hovercraft launches? No flat surface? NO problemNo land only water? NO problemNo area that isn't a sheet of ice? NO problemAmaze your allies torment your foes with the handy dandy launch o matic 5000. Get those birds in the air no matter what the launch site looks likes.Only $99,999.99 per unit*parachutes sold separatelyFrom DARPA air works
>>539511137That's weird, I always kinda assumed the SDF-1 was bigger than that. It's supposed to be the size of a city. Then again maybe the scale is fucking me up here.
>>539430662>project aces reorganizationohuhhhhhhdamn
>>539503617And you can actually do that in AC.
>>539515443I think they ended up justifying the interior scale discrepancies with some nonsense about space folding. Unknown Technology and all that.
>>539503617>>539503906For me? It's the Asuka II.
>Kitten, Fox 3!
Planes?
>>539515443Plus add in a little pinch of internal volume is a bitch for most people's mind to grasp and a huge helping of animation in the early 80's never understanding scale. If you want a consistent view of that ship check out the one in DRYL or just look at a Megaroad they get the city/size thing far more consistent.
Nyooom
>>539540958NiceWhose F-16?
>>539289341I'm not sure if it's for me, but it definitely has potential. The style is actually pretty and the guy has vision, but I don't like the PSMing.
>friend says he's played AC3 and really liked it>be happy>realise he's talking about Assassin's Creed 3It strikes again...
>AC symphony>only 1 song from AC 2blasphemy
>>539577475F-16's are so fucking sexy.Not that some new planes aren't cool too, but they're samey. It was cool when the F-22 looked like that, and it's still cool but the F-35 is the last plane, and it will never be cool.
>>539577475I found 3 to be the weakest of the original plot line a lot in part due to lack of big building to climb on. Ship parts were fun.
Bring'em back Kono do it! you know you want too
spotted in BF6Gripen, my beloved...
>>539597875yeahit's the attack plane of the pmc factionalongside the su-57 as their fighterbit odd if you ask me but whatever
>>539579759I think she is cool
>>539600929Well you better think she's REALLY cool, because the f35 is the last plane you'll ever see get made for real. It's all downhill from here. I just think for humanity's send-off it's disappointing. Like the culmination of all of humanity's engineering realizing that the Toyota corolla really is the smartest buy.
>>539601135Are you imblying that it's drones from now on? or that peer powers to USA will never require innovation to beat? I'm skeptical of both of those things in the long term. We have no way of knowing how war tech is going to progress.
>>539601135Could maybe be any more of a doomer than you are right now? As I don't think its possible to doom much harder than you are right now.
>>539601442Mostly that peer nations will simply coast on copying the US, and the US is not in a position to develop anything better from this point forward, it's a miracle the f35 project even finished, the next one will take twice as long, cost 4x as much and won't even give us a plane by the end of it, all the money will just be in various MIC executive's pockets.
>>539601994I was wrong you did manage to doom harder. Buddy I think you need to go touch some grass for a while as clearly the net has overwhelmed you.
Jammer Flanker
>>539605781Janker?or Flammer?
I've been turned sinoboo by the J-20...
>>539607026I still prefer the F-22J-20 is a good fusion of F-22 & Mig-1.44 however
>>539607942Its actually pretty darn distinct IMO, you cant really mistake it for either the Raptor or the 1.44
>>539609257I said fusion her cockpit section matches more to F-22 the rest of her body matches with an Mig 1.44. With some changes made across the entire body to make a large plane stealth Its what I see when I look at her she's still a unique looking plane hence the whole fusion part its elements of both combined into this.And China long history of just copy everyone else doesn't help. Yes I know stealth plane = you must pick from a very limited set of choices
You guys are gonna rivet count the planes in my game and bully me. I just know it.
>>539612404We say everything will become F-35 I guess we can add on every one who can't afford F-35 will paint up planes in F-15 colors
>>539609257Wouldn't it be funny if radar didn't exist and it was a big psyop and we just made every plane look the same for no reason?
>>539577475Semi-related: The situation is not helped by the fact that there seems to be a substantial overlap between Ace Combat fans and Armored Core fans.
>>539479931it really is incredible, the amount of ways in which our society has regressed
>>539479931how bad does it reflect on me that the first thing that came to mind was piper perri?
>>539622227very very badly
>>539601135>Toyota corollaDO YOU LIKEMY CAR?(MY CAR)(MY CAR)
https://youtu.be/erSPBJ1VEPcNuclear option update is out, this game is FUN, get in a server and start blastin with your buddies. You wont give a shit about the psuedo-licenced aircraft when you start playing. God i hope AC8 has mission multiplayer...https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/2168680/view/544494894020821228
>>539597875you kow its a dead general when we discuss stuff from battlefield of all games
>>539641317>You wont give a shit about the psuedo-licenced aircraft when you start playingI actually love original planes. The more creative (while still grounded) they are, the better.
Does anyone here know if Air Combat 22 has an expert control option? Thinking of wasting some money on the switch release to show support. I assume it does since AC1 has it.
>>539657335nice pic
>>538087895AC5 ending spoilers:I liked AWACS Oka Nieba, but I think a reuniting/reconciliation with AWACS Thunderhead would have made for a more satisfying conclusion in the structure of the story and as an emotional payout, especially since he was obviously deceived and would not have assisted the 8492 had he known otherwise, especially since he had a strong emotional attachment Wardog squadron, which is clearly demonstrated by him being totally devastated at the death of Chopper. I think if they ever remade/remastered 5, this would be a cool secret alternate ending, even if not canon.
I've finally been getting around to playing Project Wingman lately. I haven't finished it yet, but it's pretty good. It does large scale battles well (Actually 6 did those pretty well too, but I forgot until just now), especially this mission around 10-ish where it's just the big constant dogfight with tons of planes. And there have been a couple of levels with really nice weather effects where it's all dark and stormy beneath the clouds and calm and sunny above them.But I mostly came to mention that I have the same reaction every time in any of these kinds games where you have to fight some ace squadron. Enemy NPC squads never stand a chance and it always feels good.
>>539668137WE GET IT, YOU'RE THE MULTI-EST MULTIROLE AIRCRAFT TO EVER MULTIROLE, SHEESH
>>539456779Oh... I guess I built this up too much in my head. I honestly thought End of Deception I was harder with the microwaves and the optical camoflouge.Or maybe the S-rank will be really difficult? You just kinda chill until the landing forces disable their camo and then Alect forgets how to fly.
>>539674486Are you using the ACX originals? the AI on Ace can give you a hard time with standard aircraft.
>>539675281Nah, Terminator with QAAMs. I haven't used the originals much, they feel like sidegrades mostly.
>>539675559That's because you're supposed to use the game's parts system to make them better.
>>539676478The suped up Cariburn understand. What makes the Fregata good? I read it's supposed to be a great Attacker
>>539675559the Apalis is a menace if you build it right and the Forneus is a great high speed dogfighter, Cariburn is just his low speed counterpart>>539676807give the Fregata the Destructive Bomb part and start dropping FAEBs on everything, use Terra Hammer if you want to focus on ground units
>>539676807>What makes the Fregata good?It's customizable, and it has both LAGMs and FAEBs.Check this out:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jc8s-n0hQYc
>>539678034kinda sad he was missing Sniper OS or the video would have been 5min instead of 8
>>539677261Ok, what is the most fun multi-role custom I can make? The XFA 4-missile?
>>539680997For multiroles I always go with the Forneus and X-02 and for some reason the X-02's XLAAs are really good at any range.
>>539540958>All you fuckers wish you flew the Viper.webm
Bump
>page 10I wasn't going to post originally but since we're page 10 anyway, I need to make the placeholder mesh to start working on the movement in my game. I was going to go with an F-16/F-2, but open to suggestions. Won't be anything fancy.pic unrel
>>539695309PROB'LY SINCE THE TIME YOU WORE A DIAPER>>539706610What about a MiG-21? It's a pretty easy shape.
>>539707491This or an F-104, it's just a toob with wings on
ascend
Eyeball.
>>539668779We do all enjoy Cold WarMake sure you try out the Spear as soon as you get it.
>>539670157Sexy bomber booty
>>539729070Argh you can tell the old girl just wants to really get up there.
>>539644062I like planes wherever I see them
>>539680997XFA-27 with Scarface MBS can tear through pretty much any mission. Some of the other originals are better in select situations, but the 27 is a very good all-rounder. Apalis would be comparable if this was JA and you could stack XMAA and XAGM.
>>539754890Not having S-ducts is embarrassing for a stealth aircraft, though.
>>539758491And say even less about the rear of the bastard.
>>539707491>>539709082I will keep those in mind. I did end up just doing a F-16 as the placeholder though. Just felt like an F-16 kind of night. I didn't start until way later than I meant to though, so no actual controls today. Next up is some movement, NPCs that fly around, and getting missiles to track them.
>>539761379Very nice, buddy, it'll be nice to see your progress. Are your missiles going to lead the target or are they going to be like AC's?
Plen
Real talk, how the fuck did the MiG-21 reach Mach 2 without even a hint of area ruling?
>>539761379Are you making a game? Do you post on /agdg/?
>>539794074because area ruling helps you go fast but it's not mandatory
>>539799704
Cougar bump
>>539782573
so what is their excuse this time for taking 29900 years to make a new game?
>>539838928half decade dev cycles is the literal standard these days, unc
>>539839179it's been almost 7 years
>>539840229Subtract time to set up new studioSubtract time for switch portSubtract time for whatever gacha Kono playsSubtract time for Kono only works on Friday's=The game is currently 2 years into its dev cycle
>>539843054Don’t forget the dlcs,
Lockheed announcement incoming. What do you think it's going to be?
>>539865232https://aviationweek.com/defense/aircraft-propulsion/skunk-works-unveils-stealthy-collaborative-combat-aircraft-designNew drone.
>>539865232I like how defense companies announced their project like it's Nintendo Direct or something.
>>539866528and you guys told me I was dooming when I said nothing interesting will ever happen again in flight.
>>539867302https://armyrecognition.com/news/aerospace-news/2025/radia-to-build-worlds-largest-military-cargo-aircraft-for-u-s-and-nato-forceswe getting this maybe
>>539867490it looks like somebody inflated it too much.
Oh fuck that
>>539874938
WeeeeeeeeThe basic controls aren't totally in place but the core is there minus some nuance. AC has a sort of constant local-nose-up combined with a variable nose-down that changes depending on how horizontal you are, and that's not in right now.It has inertia (hard to tell right now) but no camera lag makes it look a little boring right now.
>>539874938whats the matter? mogs the mriya tbdesu
>>539902947It is unfathomably fucking ugly.
>>539915935there is beauty in utility
>>539918227it's a big flying dildo
>>539915935lmao it really isalso can this even fit in any current airports
>more time has passed between the release of ac7 and now than between its announcement and its release>still no concrete news on the new game>PW released a campaign with no extra aircraft and also went radio silentis the arcade flight genre just cursed
>>539920210I don't understand why they don't put out more side-story content. They could release random stories built on the fucking AC5 engine just with slightly different dialog and stories and I'd still pay like 20 or 30 bucks if they did one a year. Like the framework is all there, the games have been perfect since the mid 2000's. It wouldn't fill the void of major mainline entries but so what.
Would suck if AC7 was too successful and is making them greatly scope creep AC8
>>539931838AC7 IS the most successful game of the series. It stands for reasons that Bamco has high expectations for the series from then on.
>>539937206I hope they don't get Capcom-tier delusions about sales figures now. DMC damn near died because they were expecting Call of Duty-tier numbers after the success of DMC3 and DMC4 going multi-platform for the first time, and the series got put on ice when DMC4 ended up disappointing everyone.
>>539931838I just want two things: co-op multiplayer modes, and VR support for the main campaign.
>>539928312i think your vastly underestimating the amount of work needed to produce an acceptable AA videogame and overestimating the size of the audience that would buy short 5 mission campaigns for 30 dollars
What AC games do you replay the most?I've probably played 5 and zero, and maybe 6 the most of any of them, and idk if it's just because I don't have as much time as when I was a kid but while I liked 7 I never had too much of a desire to replay 7.
https://x.com/gabriel_solon/status/1969913486647099834Another WIP game with some AC3 influences.
>>539968870For me it's 7, not the one I like the most but until recently (read: sometime the last couple of years) emulation always had something fucked with it, PCSX2 2.0 or whatever it's called is amazing so now I try to go through all of them together when I can.
>>5399688707 I don’t enjoy as much. I’m always stressing about trying to s rank with an average aircraft. Whereas the ps2 games I can s rank more easily. 7 is just stressful in general.
>>5399688705 because it's my favorite.
>>540010187Ripoff.
>>540010187Does the big radar dish provide any meaningful lift I wonder
>>539968870I've now played/replayed through all the mainline old games besides 2, 6, and AH.I think Zero and 4 are the most replayable, 5 was kind of painful on repeat. Half the missions are ass and dialogue option is really pointless. 3 was really cool to experience but I don't feel the need to play it again any time soon.X was surprisingly fun, and had a completionist side with the parts and fictionals that I ended up enjoying a lot.I started the series with 7 and have replayed it maybe 10 times and will probably play it again once I finish the others.
>>540011354Apparently they're supposed to be aerodynamically neutral.
Beeeg
>>540024624>Fires a shell>Buildings and highway reduced to rubble from the shockwave
>>540029650That's why they built it in a desert in the middle of nowhere.
>>539928312They might in the future, but AC7 was supposed to be the one big reintroduction to the series, so they went for the easy route.>throw in every recognisable thing they can>expand on it so it's not an effortless mix of things of references>reduce scope when shit is too ambitious
>>540029910No no no no no - you see, the desert came about as a result of the Stonehenge Array.
>>540062629It's happening...
https://x.com/pandramodo/status/1970261828576870843
>>540073494>Hey f*scist, catch!
anyone playing 0.31
>>540077020i keep thinking about buying it but i do always question how much I can squeeze out of it just by playing singleplayer
>>540078757It's all I play, and most missions work in SP or are designed for it.
>>539856184As soon as they announced they were building this huge wind turbine transport a few years ago we all knew the Air Force would get a version for themselves.
Wish there was a game inbetween Ace Combat and DCS gameplay wise, that isn't War Thunder and that uses real life equipment
https://breakingdefense.com/2025/09/manufacturing-of-first-f-47-next-gen-fighter-underway-air-forces-allvin-says/F-47 tentative first flight in 2028
>>540096525Aren't they going a bit slow?
The basic missile tracking works now (no leading on these) right now just shooting randomly at NPC planes flying around an area. All the NPC planes also randomly shooting at each other.
>>540110143Whoops, no video.
>>540127001What did he mean by this?
>>540110696>Webms you can hear the Macross music in your mind.
I understand that they're cool. But I really don't like flying attacker craft in AC. The game is designed such that they are always inferior to multi-role or air superiority
>>540137510I see you have never played 6 and tried out the DLC A-10's
>>540138000There was also one mission in 7 where the A10 was useful for me over a multi role. I think it was mostly because it had better specials available but I can't remember.
>>540137510Would be nice if they introduced more ground targets, some of them being harder to destroy, have something like the damage modifiers in Infinity too.
>>540140005I'm trying to imagine what mission that could be. Long Day? Pipeline Destruction?
>>540141134It was Long Day.
>>540137510>He has never known the glory of the BDSP Tornado
>>540143274Very good plane
Bottom right>/Our Hornet/
>>540145275It turns you into a one man carpet bombing operation, it's great.>>540149526You think anyone with a tail number of 404 gets joked at about how they don't exist?
>>540172525Planes look great in splinter camos.
>>540164146I'm sure they do it was the first thought and joke that came to mind as soon as I noticed Hornet 404. Even before the yeah that is our plane alright its got our number.
Flight tracker shows me a pair of P-8 over the Baltic. Is it time to hunt for Russian subs again?
Do you guys like gimmick missions like AC6's poison gas mission, or AC5's radar escort one?
>>540180962>AC6's poison gas missionNani?
>>540181350Am I misremembering it?Oh yeah, my bad It's from 5. Idk why I thought it was 6.
Why did the F-15S from AC2 never appeared again?
>>540181893X has one as well Anyways it depends on how its handled they can be enjoyable Magic Spear, DLC 3 or they can be the worst level ever created Time limit
>>540186029because its a straight 1:1 rip off of the Patlabor 2 Eagle
>>540186978But thats a good thing
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Just pay the fee and per back in.
>>540189514They'd rather pay the fee to Boeing just to say that they've got the real thing
I like AC's fictional designs more than IRL planes.
>>540193461But this fee would be pennies compared to what they have to pay LM & Boeing
>>540193753A frogposter with a normal, if somewhat uncommon opinion. Don't see that everyday. I feel like AC has the most consistently good looking fictional planes, they're a good balance of being somewhat aerodynamically sound while also doing things solely because it looks cool. What's your favorite AC original anon? Mines the Shinden II
>>540193461What are the implications of having real planes in my game? Should I make planes that are all slightly legally distinct just to be safe?
>>540196247The Nosferatu is my pick.
>>540196535Really good choice, it has some sick liveries too.
>>540196535I miss when you could unlock Nosferatu in AC6 and it would just take out half the enemies in the level with 1 special weapon.
>>540196247Wyvern (original, before the sitty AC7 version), Forneus and Falken even though it makes no sense aerodynamically
>>540196501It's a 'better safe than sorry' type deal, I think. Project Wingman got away with using real life designs by just futzing with the naming.AC has mainly been licensing western designs (with all the weird caveats like fellating the Eurofighter Typhoon in the wall of licensing text whenever you boot up AC7 and whatnot) while it seems that the Russian design bureaus don't really give a shit.A lot of people bring up the AM General vs Activision lawsuit when talking about this, but the catch with that is that 1. Activision is a big boy company with a franchise that sells gangbusters and a well-funded legal team and 2. their victory hinges on 'artistic relevance' in depicting a 'realistic war environment'
>>540199702I bring it up just as an example of legal teams being chickenshit, because they have precedent. Plus Japan has entirely different copyright and IP laws so it's not entirely applicable. I can't see Lockmart trying to sue an indie dev for depicting a Raptor though, seems a little too petty even for a big company. >their victory hinges on 'artistic relevance' in depicting a 'realistic war environment'That's a good point. If a real plane is depicted realistically but instead of America vs China it's Ameria vs Chyena does that count as 'realisitic'?
>>540200448Its not so much the plane its the name which believe it or not is trade marked So if your game has a plane is clearly an F-15 and marked as F-15 Eagle in game they can get you if they want too. If your plane which is clearly an F-15 but marked as FF-30 Hawk your safe.
>>540200448>I can't see Lockmart trying to sue an indie dev for depicting a Raptor though, seems a little too petty even for a big company. I can't see it either, but who knows. I do genuinely see it as a 'better safe than sorry' scenario, in my opinion.>If a real plane is depicted realistically but instead of America vs China it's Ameria vs Chyena does that count as 'realisitic'?The way I personally interpret it is that the judge saw Call of Duty's use of the Humvee as appropriate insofar that it was used to accurately depict the US military itself.I think if you get into fictional worlds or nations, you end up in an area that I don't think is covered or addressed by the lawsuit.But then again, I'm not a lawyer and I have zero law training so this is entirely a layman talking fat gobs of shit for all it matters.
>>540201802>>540202289Yeah if you're a little guy erring on the side of caution is always advisable.
Wardog is a large squadron
>>540218302Kinda cute, Desu.
>>540218302I can't believe there's a video of one of these fucking bouncing off a UFO and doing nothing to it.
>Battlefield 6 has actual thrust-vectoring mechanics nowAw fuck now the airfags are going to be even harder to kill.
>>540193753I hope to see more fictional weapons on real world planesEven if EML has been a genuine scourge for AC7 (mounted on the Su-33 and F/A-18, really cool in terms of world building, really bad for gameplay with others)
>>540233183>AC7's TLS at max power
>>540237028>Patlabor 1 and 2 out of context
>>540227943it also has rudimentary radar mechanics (fighters/attack helis cant be locked on with radar guided missiles under a certain altitude) and GLOC simulation...
>>540218302I find it weird that bombs and missiles now are packed with electronics and radars and tv lenses and navigation systems and all sorts of shit that just get destroyed with the weapon
>>540244651"Now that you mention it...""How's this? The one on the left is from the LiveLeak video you just saw.The one on the right is from the CCTV 1 broadcast.Look closely. It's fitted with cutting-edge stealth wings, and several ventral fins, which is unusual.And the most important part is......the PLAAF doesn't have any J-36s like these."
>>540244651Pointy butt
>>540248643>the PLAAF doesn't have any J-36s like theseMight be as that is the new fighter whatever its called not the J-36
>>540248996Honestly, I forgot all about the J-50.Or rather, the J-36 and the J-50 kinda blended together in my head. The last year has been a blur.
Planes without vertical stabilizers look dumb as shit
>>540250276I DO NOT!!!You look dumbNo tail = better stealth as much lower RCS welcome to the future old man its been here since the 1980's
>>540250965I don't give a shit about stealth, it's not like these planes will ever see combat anywayThey look dumb
>>540251186That is the whole point to keep the other side from trying shit. But I do find these post a bigger laugh today than I did 4 years ago>Jan 2022>They'll never see combat>Feb 22 rolls around land war in Europe starts up>FF to Aug-Sept 24>Putin keeps trying to start shit with rest of Eastern Europe thinking it won't backfire on him>Xi still seems on track for a Taiwan invasion in 26 or 27Be careful what you wish for buddy as you might just get it and depending on how old you are and where you live you might just find yourself in the middle of it.
how the hell did you guys play this shit on an actual ps2? the analog triggers on the dualshock 2 need to be pressed down way too hard for full thrust, i'm almost considering getting some knock off controller just for digital buttons
I got the basic tracking reticles set up and working.Also bump.
>>540270461Easy for 2 big reasonsFirst the controllers were new then they worked way better. If your playing with a real PS2 controller then like any piece of equipment the older it gets the more it wears out from use and just age.Before my PS2 died a few years ago all 4 of my controllers were rather worm out. Sticks and buttons don't respond as well due to many thousands of hours of play plus the normal wear and tear of age.2nd is their wasn't anything better that was the best you could get back then so how could me or anyone else bitch about it when again that was the best stuff you could buy nothing better existed. The PS3 was big step up in how the controller felt and handled same with PS4 & PS5 controllers
>>540271645>First the controllers were new then they worked way better. If your playing with a real PS2 controller then like any piece of equipment the older it gets the more it wears out from use and just age.Sure, but I actually spent $135(i know) on a controller still in the package, and I confirmed myself that there were no defects with it, all of the analog buttons progressed smoothly from 0-255, the problem is that Ace Combat doesn't seem to give you max thrust until you're hitting 200+ at least, and you have to be consciously pressing down at all times for that. I guess the big problem here is that I played the PS2 trilogy for the first time on PCSX2 using a Dualsense, so it's hard to get used to the analog thrust.
>>540272080I refer to my 2nd part thenNothing better existed then that was just how it was. Tech improves over time and makes things easier as you have found out first hand.>>540270529All those targets boxes.......
>>539874938predictable
>>540276957This is the point in time were Earth didn't follow Strangereal and two universes diverged even more.
>>540276957They must have actually been on at least ten different drugs if they actually thought that thing would ever be built and flownThe 60s were so dumb
>>540282227In the same era the USAF tested out a nuclear powered B-36. You were saying?The Cold War was a wild and crazy time during the 50's & 60's>Also from the same time period
>>540283643Since I can only post one image at a time the NB-36 test plane. Which as you can see wasn't a paper plane it did fly for testing & rescearch.
>>540283643The B-36 wasn't the size of a mountain was itA normal sized nuclear powered plane is orders of magnitude more feasible from the logistics and manufacture point of view than the 1201, there was just no way that plane was going to become a reality
>>540283643this has to be the funniest looking vehicle ever made
>>540285068Yeah it could pass as a GI Joe toyIt would fall under tail sitter type of aircraft and those always looked a bit odd.However if you remove the cockpit and put sensors, cameras, and EW stuff in it. You got a nice drone which has a crazy amount of firepower. That thing could carry a lot of dakka for its size.
>We need all the might and power of a CH-47 to airlift this
>>540306760>just how many things can we have jutting and protruding out of the plane?>yes
What's a good miniboss other than just more large flying wings?
>>540310256Flying tetrahedrons?
>>540310518<< screams geometrically >>
>>540310256Yuktobanian attack helicopters
>>540310518
>>540311079
>>540310256spitballing>Ground effect vehicle>Armored train weaving through mountain tunnel systems>Aerial laser platform with point defense ability (YAL-1 etc)>Boom-and-zoom interceptor that charges in and out of engagement range while slinging missiles at you>Defensive bunker complex that needs to be hit at specific weakspots to deal damage>Hydrofoil warship >Hybrid Lifting body / Lighter-than-air vessel that just shits missiles over the battlespace>Heavy AAA encampment (think Green Mace) that just throws ridiculous amounts of heavy flak at you like a miniature Stonehenge>Network of anti-missile defenses where you have to first destroy sensors / picket aircraft providing firing solutions>ICBM-launched enemy aces>Enemy AWACS that calls in constant reinforcements>Microwave emitter that degrades missile performance/damage in area>Floating platforms / bases where you have to blow off armor pieces to get to the important insides
>>540312248hire this fucking man
Looks like Iran's Su-35 just got downgraded to Mig-29.
>>540335351In another time, that Japanese bloke would've been a notorious war criminal. He's just got that look about him.
>>540341072"The look" being>is a japanese soldier
>>540341541Those round glasses probably aren't helping, very old-school officer type shit.
>>540311079https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JgGFMhmIbGc
>>540312248>ICBM-launched enemy acesDahir insaat type beat
>>540359358>Buccaneer pilots had to be specifically ordered to stop flying so damn low because the dust plumes in their wakes were becoming excessive
Got all three. Surely this will be the year right?
>>540367115Why is it sideways? :/
ACX should be included in the trinity. It should be a holy Quadrinity
>>540345431Its the glasses really makes him look like an IJN officer. Plus the other guy is German that really ain't helping either.
>>540335351oh god, they're teaming up again
>>540395205>Hans-san the Americans are distracted with a mental breakdown wanna have another go at the world?>My fridge if full of beer and sausage lets have at them once again Yamato
Something we've all done countless times in this games. Now seen it in real lifeShooting down a cruise missile
2 Bears and 2 SU-35's poking around Alaska today. Do they normally send them with fighter escorts? >>540402358I did always wonder if those missions were a realistic concept, although I doubt any of these cruise missiles are the magical supermaneuverable kinds that usually show up in those missions.
Real life sucks so fucking much.
>>540418162wdym, these look slick
>>540414871Yeah they do but usually the Russian fighters aren't in the images that get published or they just stay out of the image completely.>if those missions were a realistic conceptYeah its been done since WWII after all however people generally didn't bring cameras with them everywhere they went like we do today.
>>540312248more spitballing>High altitude balloon fleets with dropfired missiles / laser defense>Cargo ship missile/drone carrier that needs to be ID'd amongst civilian vessels in poor weather conditions>Literally just Project Pluto's SLAM>Tokyo-3 style city with AA defenses on skyscrapers - need to snipe out with guns to avoid massive collateral damage>Coastal radar array (ie. DEW Line) that calls in massive long range air defense missiles from overhead - need to dodge, possibly by flying through cities / tunnels>Cruise missile / drone clusters with a replaceable "leader" (see P-700 Granit etc.) that designates targets>Boom-and-zoom interceptor, but this time it's a fucking missile that tries to joust into you>Submersible speedboats that "dolphin" to let off shots at you (see JFD's stuff)>Coastal gun complex where defenses retreat behind blast doors if you fire from too far away - need to release payload at last moment to deal damage
Playing AHL+, should I leave the maneuvers on? They feel like a gimmick but also like the game was designed around them being on
If an AC protag superpilot had to fly a helicopter, what would his canon helicopter be
>>540457072Probably an Apache, except for the one time their canon helo was a Ka-52 and an AH-1Z. Starter helo though, maybe a Huey.
>>540467228Ahh yes the elusive “Taco” flavored Dorito, before it became the “nacho cheese” that we all love today.Can I eat the whole thing and serve it with a sandwich? I’m always hungry for more.
>>540476130Somebody grab Wiseman, Long Caster's off his meds again
They should make another Ace Combat game, I think that'd be kinda cool.
>>540483763Sure why not.
>>540483763What if it had, likeMore planes or somethingWould that be really bonkers or what
tiger stripe f35
>>540418162>just fuck my shit upWell it doesn't look too bad
>>540418162twitter analysis
>Secdef wants literally every General and Admiral in US service in one room next week for nebulous purposesJesus Christ even the Oseans wouldn't be so stupid as to put their entire upper command chain in one spot.
>>540512076That's more of a Erusea move honestly.
>>540512076knowing Trump he just wants to be the one who says he's the first one that ordered that in like 200 years nothingburger let's go back to agonizing over the lack of AC8 news
>>540517351They're saving it for the final day of TGS, and they'll unveil Armored Core 6:2:Revengeance on the same day, TRUST THE PLAN
Hey there, buddies! Meant to mention it sooner, but life gets in the way. /vg/ League 25 Friendlies start today, and /aceg/ has a match happening later, with /wtg/ wanting one with us. https://implyingrigged.info/wiki//vg/_League_25_Friendlies/aceg/ vs /wtg/ starts in around 1 and a half hours. https://cytube.implying.fun/c/vgleague
>>540528784If you told me 10 years ago the J-20 would go into mass production before the SU-57 I'd have called you a madman. Really hope it gets into AC8.
>>540529220China is the manufacturing hub of the world, after all.
>>540522550Match starting now
>>540529220what did the J20 even looked like 10 years ago? the only thing I remember about it is that I didn't pay any attention
>>540541097in 2015, the first LRIP J20 units were rolling out of the factory for test and eval
>>540492646Slowly we are escaping the stealth grey
>>540528784I know that is a Chinese AWACS behind the J-20 but when all you see is a UFO on pole it looks like J-20 stopped at some small dinner near a UFO hotspot.
They should add an arena mode like in that other AC game.
>join 2v2 lobby>get paired with EML spammer against a SASM onetrick and a complete nugget>nugget leaves after getting stomped>next round another nugget joins and leaves during the game after getting instakilled twice>actually decent player shows up, goes a few rounds, I get my ass kicked by various degrees of SASM and EML bullshit>SASM onetrick leaves>EML spammer immediately uncaps cost and picks EML-02>SASM onetrick is replaced by yet another EML spammer>I decide that no one gets to have fun anymore and pick the shiny BVR doritoAh, that's why everyone keeps saying AC7 multiplayer sucks. I feel dirty.
Thrust vectoring is so cool
>>540562254No matter how much I tried I never really had fun with it, doesn't matter if people are playin clean or as bad as that, I think I'd like it more if it was more structured rather than different flavors or simply killing the other player.
>>540562254If you play MP regularly on any platform, you reach a point where you either blacklist shitters, find a way to ruin the game for shitters, or accept that you are not thing to enjoy the game anymore and quit.
>>539782573I fucking adore those pictures with real and sci fi vehicles side together
>>540492646still ugly
>>540592579>Stealth A-6Muh. Fuggen. DICK.
>>540562109The man who loved aerial combat so much that he did it in three completely fucking different wars.
>>540592579>>540609168that would be less stealthy than an airbus 380 lmao
I like the A-7, hopefully the next game will include it.
>>540629097DoubtfulThey're taking the series into the future of the timeline and a jet from the 60s has no place in it, it's gotta be modern plens to attract kids
>>540630563That can't be, I had a dream a couple nights ago where Ace Combat 8 was set in the 80s, that's why it's name is Ace Combat 8, are you calling me a deranged schizophrenic who wants to eat people?
>>540633912But then how did AC2 have jets if it was set in the 1920s?
>>540633990Belkan witchcraft.
dead lol
>>540609296Why did I read that as he died in three completely fucking different wars?
>>540630563About that....
>>540663323a game set in 2019?
>>540665938If we can fly an F-104 into battle in 2019 we can fly an A-7 into battle in 2027
>>540673786Cobras hanging on for dear life.
>>540562254i used to derive some satisfaction from seeing people rage hard and swap to eml02/adf11fs after getting their asses whooped by an f16c, but at some point i just started getting disappointed instead when i see semi-decent players fall to mega-crutches. it's just sad desuwa
>>540704378>getting disappointed instead when i see semi-decent players fall to mega-crutchesYeah, that's the most disheartening thing. Back when player clans were super active on PS4, you'd run into the occasional clanfag who was genuinely pretty good, but would swap to EML-02 and/or call one of their buttbuddies to 2v1 or 3v1 you if you put up too much of a challenge. You learnt very quickly which clans were auto kicks if you were hosting.
Thank You for reading my review of Ace Combat 0.
WS19
>no TGS announcementWhat the fuck is taking so long?
>>540726575I guess it’s just the game awards left this year?
>>540719150Is horse on fire better than well drawn horse?
>>540726575You know how the saying goes:TGA for sure...
>>540512076>>540515814Anchorhead Raid or something. Just need a crazy ace pilot and an AWACS to list who gets their posthumous one-rank promotion > Why not two-rankIn this economy?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f2vyQNPDBuoIt's time to d-d-d-d-d-d-duel!
>>540726575TGS isn't big enough event for big announcements.
>>540790420>Top rightWhat in the fuck is that
>>540794907
>>540790420>>540795507It looks like a the bastard child of a Black Widow and this Star Wars fighter after a drunken one-night stand. I don't mean it in a bad way, but more that it feels like an OC from a shovelware jet combat game.
>>540795507> Bottom rightWtf>>540797378Add Batmobile in the threesome and that sounds about right
>>540788705Sad how far it's fallen. Reminder that the PS2 was announced at TGS.
>>540572560Plane engines are cool
You guys seen this?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oo9MmJzQTLY
>>540831541>>539289341If I were a numerologist...
>>540832743The reference is beyond me.
>>540832743FAN using bots?
>>540834073Look, don't accuse me of being a bot. I rarely browse this gen anymore since it's gotten really slow. I missed the Steam page posted earlier, and only came across the game in my YT shorts today. I ctrl+f'd for the YT link, got nothing, and I didn't know the name of the game.
Last word
Oh we are going down...https://youtu.be/Q4O4auBsD04Upload from the official channel today, AC3 music.
