Paaceful Times Edition>LATEST NEWS:Total War: WARHAMMER III - Dev Chat 3 - (Aislinn and DLC Changes) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wFUm6H-cXkoPatch Notes 6.3: https://community.creative-assembly.com/total-war/total-war-warhammer/blogs/78-total-war-warhammer-iii-patch-notes-6-3Patch 6.3 Dev Blog: https://community.creative-assembly.com/total-war/total-war-warhammer/blogs/77Siege Rework: https://community.creative-assembly.com/total-war/total-war-warhammer/blogs/76Tides of Torment delayed: https://community.creative-assembly.com/total-war/total-war-warhammer/blogs/75-total-war-warhammer-iii-tides-of-torment-release-update?page=1Total War 25th anniversary: https://community.creative-assembly.com/total-war/total-war-warhammer/blogs/73-join-us-for-the-total-war-25th-anniversary-celebrations>Stuff1d6chan: https://1d6chan.miraheze.org/wiki/Total_War_Warhammer/TacticsRoll Charts: https://imgur.com/a/81snQma>Total War: Warhammer IIITide of Torment teaser: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQNKhxbQKuMTotal War: WARHAMMER III - Dev Chat 1 - DLC talk (Dechala): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=avVyfLV6YXI Total War: WARHAMMER III - Dev Chat 2 - DLC talk (Sayl): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-wN0zM9gp-s >Older TitlesSteam: https://store.steampowered.com/franchise/TotalWar-OfficialPrevious thread: >>537852619
That's what you get for not being a good person
Thanquol soon, friends!
my challenge?
>general actually died for a momentTaste of freedom...
>>538175553Deniable>Flees
>>538176014norscabros.....
>>538175691and yet you came back
>>538176647Never left to begin with, ESL anon.
Sup. How were the TK and Lizardman updates? Anything worth starting a campaign for? Right now I'm othergaming but I'd go for a quick campaign as them before the KCD2 dlc comes out and the string of games I'm looking forward to this Autumn begins.
Oh no bros, I walked into an ambush!
>>538178896Cinematic view for my impending doom.
>>538178896you cannot deny his challenge any longer
>>538179135Wulfrikbros what the fuck happened...Ambush was truly wasted on such a tiny army, and the main army + settlement being reinforcements like 2 minutes later.
the future of total warhammer is near
>make detailed harbour areas>can't do naval invasions in those like you could in Rome 2it's like they're mocking us
>>538179409my challenge..... no....
>>538176995dont call me that
>>538179663Dechala where is the petition to save it
>>538179663good
>>538179735Im afraid the technology for this was lost in a fire at CA hq many years ago
>>538175385kino
Only this guy remained from his unit.
bro what
>>538179735>can't do naval invasions in those like you could in Rome 2To be fair those were fucking shitManeuvering boats into landing at the extremely limited beach spaces within the walls while being blocked by the empty boats leaving was a fucking nightmare
>>538182830>turn 76>still not conquered Nehekharangmi
>>538183187I got distracted. Was trying to keep the lizards alive from their own stupidity, but now might have to make peace with wuzzag and turn around.
>>538183773Ligger ai is broken, why do you even bother? It's why I'm waiting for a hotfix.
Archaon charging with Swords of Chaos + their ability is great. Massive speed, and much more speed during charge. Archaon's able to immediately go to the target unhindered while the Knights clear way. People rag on the Swords of Chaos but I think they're actually good, they're consistently getting great value, and much more than other Knights. They are however much more of a 'glass cannon' of sorts compared to all other types of Knights. I find they die/get damaged much easier, but deal much more damage. Need more management than even lances.
>>538175553>>538176014So he's getting a rampage ability like Skarbrand in the DLC yeah?
>>538184502Oh is it? Well fuck, no wonder they got wiped out so easily.
>No posts in nearly 30 minutesNot gonna lie the state of this general is grave.
>>538184781>People rag on the Swords of ChaosThey do? Where? I don't see anyone talking about them usually.
>>538187526Good thing 4channel hid the IPs
>>538187731>>538184781Did they get buffed? In WH2 they're pretty shit
>>538187526grim, evenno wait...
>>538187731https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/thread/536695824/#536713205I do agree they should be more like mounted aspirings to a degree.
>>538188717Ah okay.I do think they're a little lakcluster though but primarily from small model count.They don't have the sheer mass that Ogre Cavalry have which is what allows Ogre Cag to not suck shit.
>>538188865>They are towering brutes atop immensely powerful Chaos Steeds, rider and mount clad in thickest plate, each section of armour crafted by a master Daemonsmith.More mass would be fitting.
>>538187526I have like 2k hours across Total Warhammer games and simply had enough of it. No updates/dlcs CA creates, make want to play TWW anymore. I'm just not in a mood for it anymore at all. Tried to play few campaigns recently, but got bored. Their shitty updates breaking my modlist time and time again annoys me greatly and a prospect of rebuilding it every time I want to play even further dissuades me from starting next campaigns.The only other TW I like is Med2 which I already played for a similar amount of time before I got steam version even. I hate antiquity and don't care for their diversity quotas 3k and soigun titlesI used to be an active poster here, but I haven't posted here regularly in like 2 years. I assume that many others feel similar. New Total War titles are needed. Announce 40k and Med3 already for fucks sake.
>>538189974Sadly I don't think there's any evidence for Med 3 other than a bunch of fans thinking it would be a good idea
>>538175329"Should assjobs from hot female vampires be mandatory?" - Friendly Fire Edition
>>538175329So I went insane and purchased all 3 games with all of their DLCs.My question is, I would like to play every game in order at least once, and try every race in their debut game at least for one or two campaigns.Am I doing a terrible mistake or what?I love Warhammer Fantasy Battles, and I am still sad I pawned off my dwarf squares years ago.
>>538192419There is no point to this. TWW3 has everything previous games have, save for 2 minicampaigns, and then improvement and new content to boot.
>>538192419Get into the game with WH3 first, then once you get the hang of it dip back into the old ones to see what was different.I would probably have bought some models by now if they hadn't pulled that end times shit. It's like if they rebooted 40k right before DoW came out.
>>538192419I would say at this point... there is no reason to play Warhammer I. The Warhammer II Vortex campaign has a lot of story content that isn't in Warhammer III. Warhammer III has the huge 'grand campaign' Immortal Empires that most people play, and its own story campaign (Realm of Chaos).
reminder that if you can only win by corner camping and abusing the ai you didn't really beat the game and should lower difficulty until you're able to win without cheating.
>>538193475True and real
reminder that if you fight battles manually you are cheating because it gives you an unfair advantage over the ai.
>>538193475and you're the guy who points skill points into Lightning Strike. Try playing the game for real, my dude.
Could a Slann ever become twisted and enter the service of Chaos?
>>538192916>>538192919>>538193235So you're saying I just wasted all of my money and TWW3 is the way to go?
>>538195115No, you need Warhammer 1+2 to play the core races featured in those games in Warhammer 3
>>538195252Oh ok, thats nice. Thanks.
>>538195115Those games are WH3 dlc
>>538195115No. You need all of them anyway. Just like you needed Dark Crusade to use Tau and Necrons in Soulstorm. Or how you need Hitman 1 missions to play them in Hitman 3. Without TWW1 you wouldn't be able to play as Karl Franz, Gelt, Thorgrim, Ungrim, White Dwarf, Vlad and his wife, Kemmler, Manfred etc
>>538192419Many would probably disagree with me, but I would actually say that WH2 is worth playing a couple times for the Vortex campaign, which is very different from the map in WH3. Basically a lot of the lands the west (not-Atlantis, not-Africa, not-South America, not-North America) are very squished and kinda underwhelming. Its wroth trying out. But if you want to play anything in the old world, yeah, 3 is the best choice.
>>538194985I don't know about slann because they don't spawn new ones if I'm not mistaken, but there is literally nothing in the lore that would prevent a chaos cult from refitting a captured spawn pool somewhere out there in the jungles to make chaos lizardmenthey can't be corrupted the normal way because they don't have souls
>>538192419>So I went insane and purchased all 3 games with all of their DLCs.please please please tell me you at least purchased it through a keysite...
Slann are math NERDS and too beta to have desires so chaos hate them
>>538195115>>538195460cute rats
>>538194985They cant be corrupted but they can be manipulated. Take a look at Mazdamundi for example, hes extremely racist and aggressive to everything in Lustria that isnt an Old Ones creation, exhibiting things like willing to genocide to keep Lustria from being changed and always dealing with magic. That doesnt mean he cant be manipulated but the race as a whole technically has no emotions, so its not like temptation is an issue in the first place and Khorne would have taken advantage of his seeming bloodlust for anything not meant to be in Lustria according to The Great Plan and Tzeentch would have tempted him through how close he is to magic.
>>538197075To add onto this further, Oxyotl was trapped in the Realms of Chaos for 7000 years and came out unscathed, even managing to kill a Great Unclean One with poison which should be impossible
>>538183186you just have to micro a bit and beach landings in enemy cities can go off without a hitch and can be very fun and satisfying
I finally got total warhammer 3, just finished empire campaign on very hard and I gotta say out of all the three games I enjoy this version the least. The map just looks like shit and theres too much random garbage around, not comfy at all. Stress inducing slop, the ui looks like shit too , why isnt there a fucking quest tab like in 2
>>538183186>>538197971in my one experience with boats in the historical battle, the ai tried docking 2 in the same spot and it lost them the battle by denying them reinforcementsseems cool though, and like it could be useful when used properly
>>538192419I feel you, I really wanna play 1 and 2 again but now that 3 is out it feels like the wrong idea, despite 3 being garbage in a lot of ways
>just had the most frantic siege defense on shogun 2 fots>as soon as the final enemy routes game crashesAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>538199525>The map just looks like shit If we're talking the continents/provinces, I agree, but graphically I think its better.>UI looks like shitSadly this started in 2, the diplomacy screen in 2 and 3 for example is just absolute garbage
>>538200269Good thing being on the defensive side the game heavily favors you so you can do it all over again!
>>538200269desu since you beat it there is 0 shame in replaying again and again until you beat itannoying af i know but there is that
>Mannfred tried to invade The Empire during Storms of Chaos when it was at its alltime weakest to become Emperor>Volkimar met him on the battlefield, delivering a speech declaring that just like 500 years ago, Volkimar, a normal man, would be the end of Mannfred again>Mannfred got PTSD and ran away like a sissy and cowardKek
How do I stop getting got by flamers, they wreck my infantry
>>538200967This is after all the same guy that got beaten by some literal who stirland elector countabsolute state of m*nnfred
The Everchosen calls, do you answer?
>>538201329LEMME THINK ABOUT ITNO!
a completely aids fight
>>538175329whats the faction in all of tww with the most dakka?
>>538201584chorfs
>>538201668those terms are acceptablepraise hashut
I want to mating press Drycha into submission and turn her pro-Athel Loren
>>538201329Yes... but not how he'd like me to.
elspeth feet
>>538202172based
>>538201329I do. With a fireball to the face. Shartaon the Evercuck. Have at it.
>>538195115No, as others as have said it's pretty much DLC for WH3.Only reason to go back is to play the races pre-rework or try the smaller campaigns they have. To CA's credit pretty much every race is better after their rework.
>>538202642Your challenge? Deniable.
>>538201329Beastman here, I've been working all this time. What the FUCK took you so long no-horn
>>538204730He was hesitant to invite you, the chorfs were afraid you would have an seizure if you saw their machines
>>538205456Chorfs and their old-one derived orderliness are a stain upon chaos. I would smash their machines, their industry, and their spires if I could. Raa-roo hep me, I would bury them in the mines they so covet. Chaos Fayosh.
holy shit what are the point of buildings
>>538206226Coast are this weird thing where it's actually a horde faction but you still get to build up provinces if you want to. It's not optimal or particularly beneficial, but you can if you want.If it has one of the special settlements it's worth developing, otherwise you build the T1 eco building in the capital (if that) and move on.
>>538206494What I usually do is conquer islands only. Feels thematic. Of course, as Harkon you also kinda have to secure the Vampire Coast, but it's not too difficult when you get the full province with garrisons and full corruption.
>male consortEither my new general is a faggot or the late Tausret was cheating on me... maybe even both... I'm not feeling so good bros...
>>538205938based and primalpilled
>>538206494>It's not optimal or particularly beneficialnah man i wouldn't have been able to win my cylostra campaign if I hadn't mostly just taken land and eliminated enemies outright instead of letting them rebuild really wish there were proper pirates
>>538175329Do any of the Dragon siblings like each other?
>>538209551it's fucking retarded that you can't practically eliminate a faction just by killing all their armies and razing all their settlements unless you have some campaign mechanic like corn or beastmen to stop them from cockroaching.
Just finished an Epidemius campaign.Who should I play next?
>>538204517wulfricbros.. we're a joke..
>>538210059Considering they've gone to war against eachother in the past I would say probably not.
>>538210059I imagine if any two of them have any chance of being genuine friends, it'd be Zhao and Yin-Yin. Both are kind of the silly looners of the siblings, and their provinces aren't in direct contact to create any border friction or conflicts of interests.
>>538212320a family that plays together stays together~
>>538194985>Could a Slann ever become twisted and enter the service of Chaos?Yeah, they're called the Lords of Change.>Mad of being fat>Become sexy, lithe, dinoman bird
>>538209551Yeah you often have to to stop the enemy from taking it but it hardly does anything for your factionAlso fatghost is the exception since she doesn't get a special province/settlement as her start
>>538211128not when I need the AI kislev to hold the fucking north for at least 50 turns you're not
supple servants of slaanesh
The Lizardmen's should honestly be amazing. It increases public order, decreases corruption, increases post-battle loot faction wide AND is an advanced recruitment building to boot! Shame, then, that it only recruits trash.
>>538217134*Lizardmen's Cult of Sotek building chain
>>538217134ancient salamanders are gooddread saurians are goodsalamanders are powercrept by razordons
>>538201476You can't afford to fight rats without lots of fast anti-infantry
>>538217319I can't think of anything recruited by the Cult of Sotek building chain that isn't outclassed by something in the Great Beasts building chain. And typically there's only room for one or the other. I usually just build Cult of Sotek buildings in provinces I don't actually plan on recruiting in for the global post-battle loot.
With this army I could conquer the world of Warhammer Fantasy.
>>538217732Dread saurians are better than people make them out to be when microed right, but it is true that they lack the versatility you get from the beasts chain. And ancient salamanders aren't as good in melee as the other ranged dinos but they work better as artillery imo because of the firing arc and explosion damage and high speed, plus if you want to you can combine them with solar engines or something but I prefer to just group a few ancient salamanders together
>>538218573>imo because of the firing arcI've got a blessed one and it seems to just shoot a though a unit into the air, not had much luck with it. My salamander packs have been getting way more value usually, i'm pretty happy with them.
total war has taught me that war is basically just about making sure your people are standing in the right spot at the right time.
>>538219912and to have proper line of sight when casting fireballs
it's like turn 50 and somehow mazdamundi hasn't wiped out all of his starting enemies what going on
>>538220898The rework broke ligger major faction AI so they just sit in their settlement with their starting army, don't recruit, build anything, etc.
>>538220898>>538222301>Ligger update>AI legendary lords are now braindead>Your standard army is now an Oldblood with a Saurus stack>You level your lords and heroes up by fighting dark elves>Blessed spawnings is now about saving up for the Blessed Ancient Stegadon
>>538218406>Epirusnah they'd somehow find a way to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory
>>538220898Lizard brains broke, they just afk with their starting army. I found this out the hard way.
>>538210059they all love Shen-Zoo, love her enough to work together
>>538224848lmao Miao is a womanlet hahahahaha
>>538224545You might be right actually. I told my marines to disembark but instead they sailed to the edge of the map, jumped into the water, and proceeded to drown themselves to the last man
1-3 I pick Mazdamundi4-6 I pick Nakai7-9 I pick Oxyotl0 I uninstall WH3 and finally give Rome 1 a try
Are all the Lizardmen mods updated for the rework? Lost Calm, Lustria Rises, Geomantic web overhaul?
>>538225897Jurassic normal is green on my mod page, I don't have the others. The only thing I know for sure is lizard AI is borked right now. They just AFK until somebody comes by and kills them.
Another lost Rome 2 technology: the enemy sallying out during sieges. Of course it didn't work very well for these guys, but it's the effort that counts
And I mean it REALLY didn't work out for them
>>538225551>first fight as Mazdamundi>seduced by Saurus WarriorThats gay
>>538226693
>>538213625I really needed the money though to maintain my armieshow do you do it?
Why do tomb king snakes suck so much
This man brought his 3 wives to battle to protect him
>I will never be a thorax swordsmanwhy even live
>>538229845They're great just not for noobs. No I won't explain as I already did like a week ago on here.
>>538229845Necropolis knights? Damage wise they are good but pretty slow for a cavalry
I love the lines with the Sisters when you craft Daith items, like giving a child a toy and the other one complains they didnt get one too
>>538233370Daith wastes his talents on a pacifist.
Could the WH3 engine handle pike mechanics?
>>538233996>Why grant Naestra tools of war?
If the shitty AI knows how to use Waaagh mechanics effectively, hence why greenskins are so strong every campaign, why can't it use mechanics such as bloodhosts ?
>>538236474The devs at the time of waaagh were probably stronger than the devs who worked on bloodhosts. Wouldn't surprise me considering how the mechanics of then (waaagh) are much better overall than now (bloodhost).
Pure as starlight:)
LEWD THE SISTERS IMMEDIATELY
DO NOT LEWD THE SISTERS
>>538235768I don't think rome 2 did either considering your troops died in a second coming into contact with it
>>538229845Necropolis knights? They fucking slap what are you on?Stalkers are a little awkward because they need to get some spitting time to be at their full potential but even a couple volleys and some stabbing on cavalry is good value
Why is the game such a fucking piece of shit with line of sight? Whenever there's the slighest inconvinience the whole squad stops moving or shooting. It barely matters if you shoot from afar
>>538246489That's only one thing of a long laundry list of problems, my dudehttps://www.youtube.com/live/dmaGad0jpe0?t=738
>>538246575why does he look like a WWII propaganda
Drukhari should be the day 1 DLC, it would be a shame for all those guardsmen slaves to be wasted.
>>538227965uuhh thats kind of gay
>>538249243>AI slop
>>538249243copeguardsquires are for eldar banshees only
>>538250934Giving yourself a (You) is really sad
>>538242076>>538243058Which sisters?
>>538206226>>538206494Surprise surprise, the pirate faction has to actually do pirating to earn money, instead of building empires with infrastructure
>>538249243Unlikely. I'm not even sure Imperial Guard will be in the base first game.
One day, the DLC will come outOne day I will reinstall
>>538246614Edge la edge
My mod list is reaching perfection
>>538225551>>538226693Mazdamundi campaign is going great so far, didnt expect to make this much progress but ive made my way to Skulltaker, revived Gor-Rok who died to him and Ive basically cornered the last of his army in Harkons area, also Skrolks about to declare war on me I can feel it. Rn I have a NAP with Rakarth while I finish off Skulltaker then eventually go to war with the Skaven. When are they making Saurus Warriors and the building related to it a T1 building? Its really dumb how I need a T3 settlement to field shielded Saurus Warriors and Temple Guards feel really lackluster for being a supposed T4. Its pretty disappointing given Im playing Mazdamundi only to see that Temple Guards are actually worse than Saurus Warriors with shields when you have all the tech tree + red line buffs. Kroxigors are fun, albeit surprisingly squishy, youd think theyd be tankier given theyre huge fucking crocodiles but they get the job done. been using this as my second army to deal wirh Skulltaker and having a blast especially since this Kroxigor general has cunning so hes tankier and can hold the line incredibly well. I was also using Red Crested Skinks and they seem fun too albeit way less tanky and meant for flanking. >>538227965Meant to say they seduced my Saurus Warriors, I hate liggers fans
>>538255672>all those people still doing that exclamation point shit in the nameSo much old, useless, and misinformation with modding.
>>538255672kek I truly don't understand people like you
>>538255838Yeah god forbid I want the game to be interesting and fixed instead of playing CA vanilla. Let me guess you actually play med 2 vanilla as well, right?
>>538255838vanilla is literal dogshit thogood on anon for getting a better experience
>>538255838you are a cattle
>playing Tlaqua in Mortal Empires>must destroy Pirates of Sartosa, Clan Mors, Followers of Nagash, and The Bloody Handz>under 20 turns in and The Bloody Handz are already gone>probably confederated by another Greenskin factionWhat's a good Lizardman army composition to deal with the Sartosans? I think they'll be the biggest challenge.
>>538257185just run at themcoast are jobbers
>>538257185As long as you can outrun their ranged units then you're fine. Bring cavalry or salamanders if it is that big of a concern.
>>538257185>Ligger AKA handholddeluxe wondering how to deal with Coast AKA NPC walk-over faction
>>538255838you know how low IQ brown people smother all their food in 1 billion different spices because they have a completely unrefined palette? the concept of less is more escapes them
>>538257185Coast are literally the single worst faction in the game, both in-battle and on the campaign map. They won't be an issue.
>food analogy
IT'S 5 AM AND I KEEP CLICKING ONE MORE TURN
the 4 thousand nation face off.
>LOOK AT IT XENO, LOOK>*fearful screeches and whimpers*>LOOK UPON THE TCAL XENO, THEY WILL ENCAPSULATE YOUR VILE RACE INTO THEIR VIRTUAL CACOPHONY OF BUTCHERED ATTEMPTS AT IMITATING CODEX TACTICS WITHIN THE NEXT CYCLE>*loud screeching*>YOU WILL BE BOUGHT BY THE MASSES LIKE A CHEAP IDOL, YOU WILL BE BUTCHERED BY THE MULTIPLAYER INQUSITIORIAL CONCUIL AND RESHAPED COUNTLESS TIMES>*even louder screeching and thrashing*>YOU WILL BE OWNED BY PAYPIGIES ANDYOU WILL BE HAPPY XENO>SCREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
I know she is holding a staff but with how off-center her portrait is it looks like she is winding up a punch.
>>538258457Call me...witch?!
>>538258457
>>538258275hey buddy I think you got the wrong door, reddit is two blocks down
YOU CAN TELL ME THAT THERE'S NOBODY HELF
ZOG ROIGHT OFF!
>>538259174LEMME THINK ABOUT ITNO
>>538258603kek
GUTS OUT BOYS
>>538257942>This coming from a Wigger whose food is always loaded with sugar and corn syrup.
>>538258275I laughed
Any word on the import of Total War Warhammer 2's Amazon mod to Total War Warhammer 3?
>>538260187"soon"
>>538258275>YOU WILL BE BUTCHERED BY THE MULTIPLAYER INQUSITIORIAL CONCUIL AND RESHAPED COUNTLESS TIMESThis is very Tyranidpilled however
>>538260187The only Amazons for WH3 are in the Beastmen/Goblin rape mods iirc
BEARDS IN BELTSSHOULDER AXES LADS
>>538258275Saved
>>538192419I'm gonna tell you the exact opposite of what everyone said: it's worth it.If you really care about how the individual armies have changed over the years, if you care on the evolution of the battle maps and the world map, then yeah start with TWW1 and climb up, while also making sure to play the newest factions every time you play a new title.Immortal Empires is not that good,the modded TOW campaign is better.Just remember, some factions have been reworked so much you might have to re-learn some of their unit comps and tech trees.The Empire first of them all.
>>538261525>tow campaignThe map is ugly as shit, though.
>>538192419WH1 is definitely worth playing because you can only get that old world feel from there (or mods). The end-game crisis in WH1 is so far unsurpassed. And also just the opportunity to experience some of the factions in their pre-powercreep stage is worth it (for example Vampire Counts).WH2 is also worth it. The Vortex map is actually a really fun map to play on (the main Vortex quest sucks though but you can ignore it and some factions don't even engage in the Vortex quest such as Vampire Coast).WH2 is buggy though. One of the most game-breaking bugs is that AI Tomb Kings factions will inexplicably stop recruiting armies so they suddenly become punching bags, even Settra's faction which can completely take the fun out of a campaign if you're playing something like Repanse.
>>538262061>The end-game crisis in WH1 is so far unsurpassedmake sure to use https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=691279367to avoid turning your campaign into a roguelike.
Tzeentchfags on suicide watch
>slayer lord/hero>reach level 20>get immortal trait ???
>>538263269HAHA! My name led you to believe I was unkillable. But by killing me you have discovered you were decieved all along!
>>538263431>dies>rename when he comes backIf you don't do this just uninstall
>>538192419>>538262061This. WH1 is still worth playing. Lightning-fast turn times and best overarching campaign. You have clear early-, mid- and endgame (consolidate, take out the mid-big-bad like Vcounts for Empire, then prepare for endgame), every major Lord gets tons of quest battles and there's sense in making alliances instead of just blobbing (since you cant occupy mountainous climate as humans and vice versa). WH1 also still has balance more akin to tabletops: Armor-piercing is rare so armored units are very valuable and more difficult to stop, theres asymmetric balance instead of nearly everyone getting ranged ap + elite infantry + couple SEMs, and the mini-campaign that comes with WH1 (Athel-Loren expanded) is great fun. Of course WH3 is superior in many other ways, but there are still some things that are unique to WH1 that make it worth playing.
>>538263715He didnt die, he was only wounded!!
sigmas will
whats longma
>>538264530Longma(ssive cock)
>>538262061>>538263749didn't wh1 have that problem of agents being able to assassinate lords
>>538264036No he died an honourable death
>>538264890>didn't wh1 have that problem of agents being able to assassinate lordsYes and not only that there's no immortality skill point for generic lords. On the flipside this gives purpose to specialized assassin heroes and bodyguard retinue. I always run with as many banshees as I can recruit and have them assassinate all enemy heroes that have the assassinate hero action (the wound hero action can't perma your generic lords).
>>538260187Made for Saurus cock
>mourngul haunter and gunnery wight hero capacity from undercities>vampire captain capacity from T5 portswhat the hell is this faction
>>538267462One of the many things where the deeper I get into a Coast campaign, the more I have the urge to drop it. Always liked Coast, but damn they have a lot of issues. Serious identity crisis.
>>538267462After tk rework and norsca rework soon vampirates are probably the most obsolete faction in the game. They better fucking give them some love when Neferata's tatas arrive.
>>538267462They're the worst one now that Kangs got buffed, and even then I think pre-rework Kangs were still stronger than the Coast by turn 25. Nothing works right. Treasure maps are shit, undercities are shit, settlements are shit, heroes are shit and you can't get enough caps, lords are average, coastal setllements are ok but compete with pirate undercities, techs are mostly shit, upgrading your settlements doesn't help. They're still stuck in WH2 where they still were the worst. If they want you to be a fighter and depend on it for finance, they should give Coast a +post battle/loot/sack income thing on their buildings like Greenskins and Khorne.
>>538265425immortality was one of the biggest improvements in wh2, and I don't remember when they toned back the ai agent spam but it was a fucking nightmare in wh1 and it made me rage quit so many timesthere's a lot of things you can say wh1 did better but assassinations are not one of them
>play nkari>go to siege>close defeat>shit out a disciple army>crushing defeat
>>538268280Many Slaanesh troops are squishy and can't stand up to missile fire or frontal fights, you need to micro and flank a lot
>play nkari wanting to ARWeebposter BEGONE.Also you can AR spam as them but this requires playing past turn 5 and AR spammers can't into manual for a few battles.
>>538266238I hope Niels is doing well
>>538268280>Start campaign >Beginning battle >AR gives me close victory no unit losses>Embed hero>Close victory but lose a unit
>>538235768anon the wh3 engine is the rome2 engine just jury rigged by incompetent retards trying to mimic what someone slightly less incompetent made over 10 years ago
ITS UPhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z18XPcfD2vE
>>538266238I hope Niels is in pain.
>>538267462>>538267583>>538267721>>538267783ok genuinely one of the worst campaigns i have played but it got better once i built a necrofex stack like noctilus campaign effects keep pushing towardsannoying on not being able to attack from sea but i wonder if the tcaluk came up with a ghetto workaround by giving you extra campaign movement on war declaration missionsstill haven't touched kangs, slaanesh or daniel yet, any recommendations
It's over...
>>538271816>SlaaneshJust wait roughly a month and you will have a reworked Slaanesh with better mechanics and more options. No point doing it right now I'd say>DanielNot very worth playing. Mods don't really fix it, they overdo him and he feels like a cheatmod character. He has to be fixed by CA, I don't think modders can do it right.
>>538272014has been over since the shadows of change fiasco desu
>>538272127>Just wait roughly a month and you will have a reworked Slaaneshlmao
>>538255805its to have their mod at the top nigger its not some voodoo magic shit
>>538272231it was over long before then, that's just when people started to notice
>>538273452I make mods, I know about mod order. Adding a bunch of dumb shit to it is unnecessary and assumes it needs to be higher than some mods. How can they tell? You can't. You use one exclamation point, oh no faggot uses two look out! It's impressive you couldn't think about how redundant it is. It's up to the users to manually order their mods (as they do anyways, further increasing my point).
>>538273638i make mods too and that is literally the only reason people do the exclamation mark shit>It's up to the users to manually order their modsyou underestimate the laziness of players
slaanybros.. the autoresolve..
Why are all the victory cheevies in Pharaoh Ultimate? Imo should be the long campaign
>>538275398yeah as much as I love Pharaoh I'm not playing to an Ultimate victory for every minor faction. The achievement for finishing a campaign in prosperity works on short, at least
>>538261858>The map is ugly as shitIE looks even worse, it comes with the game.
>>538276574And I can't find any cheats to make it long only
Question:Is it fair to corner camp in this place?
>>538261858means nothinggameplay is king
>>538281261Yes. Sounds like a proper usage of environment instead of arbitrary invisible walls
>>538281261any real commander would want to prevent himself from being flanked
corner camping is cheating btw
>>538281261you have 4 heroes so its not like the enemy can do anything anyway
>>538281939They aren't high level and don't have broken gear.
>hero-stacking corner-camping k*slev faggotyawn. too obvious.
>>538281815The AI cheats, why shouldn't I?
Not using lancers as kislev is gross
>>538284768Boris has them.
Fighting a battle with a full 20 units is cheating
Here's your Med3https://store.steampowered.com/app/3440120/_Knights_of_the_Crusades/
>>538285332I like when shitters cope like this, they did it a lot with Elden Ring>oh OH you're saying I didn't beat Malenia because I used mimic tear and RoB and magic??>W-WELL I BET YOU THINK MOVING AND USING ANY WEAPON IS CHEATING TOO HUH
>>538285351>st. george's crossChud game
>>538285623you should see those souls games challenge run communities especially the no hit (tm) "people"they have the weirdest most arbitrary rules along with new titles like "world first beating the game while wanking"
>>538285803Yes but they're adding those arbitrary rulesNot cheesing with stealth magic that Malenia doesn't dodge isn't arbitrary
>>538285623>He hasnt done a no moving no weapon elden ring runSad!
>>538286043if the devs don't patch it out, it's intended
>>538285623That anon is clearly in jest. And,>Elden RingNo. FROM post-DS1 is a meme and only got worse, ER in particular has the ugliest bossing in all vidya.
So what faction makes you want to keep playing past turn 60 when you have snowballed hard? Is there a single one?
>>538286664Now that I think about I can only recall one I felt truly engaged and compelled to finish and it was the Welves, in particular Sisters or Drycha.Their campaign mechanics are easy and dynamic with the teleport, easy but fun, no blobbing, no suffering if you lose one shitty settlement, just retaking the trees. Even tho their roster is kinda boring I just kept and kept playing until the end without "forcing myself".
>>538286464Yes, to decrease the difficulty Setting WH3 to easy/easy isn't cheating but it's very boring and unfulfilling
>>538285351>released yesterday >already at a discount explain this medieval chuds
>>538287248Welves have the best campaign by far and people HATED IT back then, it was always the absolute best campaign hands down.
>>538271816are boat giants actually good in campaign? this video makes them look like total garbage.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LhmmEK05JsY
>>538192916One thing the first game had over the later games is a more detailed in game wiki, it was about as good as the one you'd see in older titles like shogun 2.
>>538288104>quad bloatedTrolling build
>>538286664Still or ever? If ever, many. Or rather, most factions/races I've played beyond 60. Extra-restrictive campaigns can be good for this.
>Take the walls!
>>538288104they are pretty good in campaign biggest issue in campaign is good maps, you need good line of sightyou also need vampire lore to heal and gunnery wright to restore ammo to really support them
will there be any news this week?
>>538289023hmmnyo
>>538288992also they are surprisingly not very good in melee so that's another thing
>>538289098:(
>>538286664no and actually its around 30 turns
>Sure looks like shit down thereI wonder how soldiers decided who got the good job back in the day and who ended up vanguard in the moshpit.
HELLOOOOO????TIDES OF TORMENT?????
Is it ever worth making somebody a vassal?
>>538289023There may be hotfix, or not.
>>538291686Your commander told your officer who told your sergeant who told you. Same as today.
>>538292451well they will be good at sitting around and guarding their castle. and vassalizing strong lls is funny
>>538292713>But the noobs in front>Put the veterans behindA rock solid strategy since time began, and sadly with TW's single entity prevalence not enough people get around to learning this is a very viable strategy with infantry as well.
dooky bros...damn i love when I have a great army for this kind of maptook a lot of casualties on my greatswords but eh worth it
>>538288992do they get better stats or abilities or something? in mp they are basically just cannons that can walk around and miss half of their shots while getting shot to death.
Rikard von Kludburgh had seen horrors... horrors beyond the worst nightmares of a superstitious peasant or the unspeakable horrors he would speak of in his fiery sermons to his devoted Flaggelants....he had seen the horrors and with his mighty hammer, he had sent them all back to the hell they came from
>>538292798I'm mainly thinking of doing it to my tree bros. They kind of just sit on their single tile of land anyways.
I WANT ONE TOO
>Been fighting the same skavenblight rebellion for like 5 turns>Always retreats just out of range>Always one or two units that survive>instant 8 units the follow turn
this game is the easiest its ever been and thats a good thing
>>538294538>this game is the easiest its ever beenHard disagree, if we're talking Warhammer, 2 basically played itself.
>>538294179>400 kills>No veterency Real-life warriors trained by cutting corpses and bound prisoners. Why would cleaving through an ocean of slaves not give a significant amount of battle experience?
>>538294793>>538294538They made ranged units way too powerful and it makes the game way too easy.
>Take that ya warpstone-fart huffing dirt scrabbling retards>Come back to Reikland again and I'll summon the fuckin' Counts
Wtf? The nearest Slaanesh army, if there is one, is over by the shrine of khaine. Will capturing one of their cities count? The Helves are sieging them for like 40 turns instead of wiping them so am I just fucked?>>538295760Oof, mirin that army.
>>538293527they get a bit more phys resist and are just super cheap to replace in noctilus faction
>Ambient boat creaking sounds>Sails that move in the windSeems like a lot of work for a terrain piece. I'm holding out hope.
The Maelstrom is my favorite battle in each campaign. It's thematic for Aran, it gives me a great city, and it means I've wiped out my torturous starting enemies because I have to cut through them to get there. It marks the moment the campaign becomes fun.
>>538296116Hero actions can give the stamp tramp as well. When N'kari's faction gets wiped out you will lose that mark dont worry.
Tyring to min-max chorfs buildings in lategame is fucking awful.
Whats the strongest single army you can make? So far the best one ive done was taurox+few gore bulls and around 10-15 minotaurs with shields. Just steamrolled over everything in 30 seconds.
>cheatstack
>>538299624Kroq-Gar with 18 scar-veterans and Lord Kroak
>>538296116Its my Franzer Elite army. Sometimes I switch out 2 greatswords with Emperors Wrath elector count Steam Tanks but I keep finding having more infantry is more versatile
>>538299624Probably leviathans. Massive collision damage, very high armor, very high health, good speed, can be healed with lore of vamps, high physical resistance, high MA, MD, AP, and WS, chance to rise again, wear a crew of .50 cal sniper zombies as a hat. My 18 stack of these used to drop blimps in 20 seconds or less.
>>538299624>>538300918Their stats for reference. Also Magic and mortis engine effects do nothing to them.
>>538293449Your expert charge defence halberds should just block charges from all infantry too however
>>538300918Leviathans are unplayable because their unit icon is a foot, despite a distinct lack of feet in their model.
>>538301396The foot is to get you horny.
>>538301396>consistent readable representation of what a unit does instead of literally just the unit's head as their bannersovl...lost technology...
God damn Hellebron is huge. Hot.
>>538299624For me, it's Morghur with a Jabberslythe stack. Chaos Fayosh.
how many times do I have to teach you this lesson dookie man?like the 4th time this campaign killing rakarth just like this
>>538302774Lords are always moggingJust like real life CEOsYou never see a tall man working some dead end ass job
>>538303354I don't know why recent AI does this so much
>>538303667I love the TKs silly little fruit slice hats
bros.... how long has this been in the game? this changes everything
>>538305608Anon...
>>538305930Excuse him he normally doesn't play past turn 10.
Very smart skeletons
>>538306834That's a lot of pots
>>538305608Since Warhammer 3's release basically? I don't remember it not being there.>>538307291UUUU
Aiiieeeee Chaosbros look out!I really missed Hellebron. Always my most favourite; my blood-thirsty infantry-blending murder granny. Is rather nice facing so much WoC then Khorne and they get slaughtered in the thick melee.
>>538307291The game gives you so many now. I was spamming research boosts in all my territories, and crafting stuff, and still had too many.I wish there was a 'craft X' option in the mortuary cult, because I got kind of tired of it after a while.
>>538299624malakai and 19 blimps
>>538307678I always assumed witch elves were for light chaff blending and got wrecked by heavy armorDoes she just buff them enough for it not to matter?
I only just learned that fall damage is a thing after using my Doom Knights to knock some dudes off a wall during a siege.
>>538309251I think I was using Vargheists when I realized how broken it isFlying units also get a guaranteed takeoff after standing idle for a second if they're on a wall, they can't get trapped there like they can on the ground
>>538305608this mod makes it even better:https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3071058010
>>538309202Bit of both. Witch Elves have their own rampage potion which is great, but even better is Hellebron has the single most fun innate ability in the game. The units that 1v1 chaos warriors as such do get held-up, but when breaks in the line appear (which will be quick) then you use those units to wrap around to the ass of the warriors and it's gg no re.
>>538309251They can knock down your own units too fyi
>>538305608It's TWW3 feature that was introduced at it's release
>LOOSECoast heros aren't good enough to warrant being locked behind cove buildings.
which factions are most like the iron hands of 40k
>get purple hand hideout turn 3>have to tank your early economy/delay building to avoid tzeentch aids from spreading across your starter provincethis shit is annoying
>>538311087What specifically? If you mean slow in-battle, then counts or nurgle. If you mean heavily defensive on campaign map, then Kyslev (specifically if you focus on their technology for it and play where you are very slow in expanding, and focus more on their mechanics that are for defense/fights on your homelands).
>>538310997Bows are so fun
>>538311358I had very similar in my current Dookie campaign. Very early game (1st province) I got some Chaos unusual location that required 4k to remove. Like fuck off, man. I hope there's a cheat to disable these or I'll make it myself honestly. The latest batch of unusual locations are typical CA where it's just bad ideas and bloat.
>>538309251It works on hills too, if the conditions are right. You need to be charging directly downhill, and it needs to be the kind of charge that sends them flying.
>>538311087I hope you meant to say Iron Warriors
>pyrrhic victory>seduce a darkshart>valiant defeat
>>538311358What faction are you playing? I'm playing coast and haven't gotten a single LOI. Pushing turn 40 rn.
>>538311438aura>>538311692no.
>>538311489Manliest Welf
>>538311695do it manually loser
>>538311941I will manually click this button and proceed to die
>anon playing a seduction faction and just can't manual battleMan am I the only one who actually manuals when playing such? The fuck is wrong with some of you guys.
noooooo dont make me play nooo
>>538309251Was hillarius on WH3 launch when the terraced rice paddies would delete ogre siege weapons.
>>538312040how big are your breasts femanon
>>538311719I was playing as the Last Defenders. Getting that location while having to do the two/three-turn marches to the skaven cities was a slog because I couldn't even just sack the settlements quickly for the 10k needed to dismantle it.
>>538307583>>538310774shit.... well at least it hasn't been there since WH2 release or something
Praise Myrmidia, Cadavo version 4.0 is here.The fat toad shall not stop the march of the Tilean man.
This campaign I skipped getting the LL (whose perks are worse than the generic lords now) in favor of saving infamy and rushing the verses. It's cool how CA made the pirate lords B-line for your LL instead of your cities like normal. About to have a pirate battle of the ages.
wish sacking or razing didnt move you
>>538313036Lizardmens AI is broken currently, enjoy your free win.
>>538313113Wish I could choose where those involuntary movements go like the AI clearly doesFucking thing does a complete 180 sometimes to get out of range of a second army
>>538314178>walks past your army>crosses a river>marches through your settlement's zone of control>stands just out of reach from your remaining movementnothing personal, just total war.
Step one, remove some natives.>>538313528Its WH2, I aint touching 3 until its done
>>538314178not sure if it's a bug or intentional, but in Pharaoh I have literally had enemy armies get in a boat and sail across the nile while retreating on a few occasions
markus is actually pretty fun, just wish pic related was maybe twice as often instead of like every 30 turns or whatever
>>538315269Pretty sure you can make it happen every 5 turns as long as you fight 5 battles every turn
Anyone else notice there are no rogue armies spawning?
>>538315269this guys campaign made wh2 boomer cry and shit their pants
>>538316149I haven't noticed because in wh3 they gimped rogue armies so hard that they might as well not even exist in the first place
smelly dumb orc spearchukkas
>>538316719There's a spawnpoint three feet from my capital so I've usually fought off three of them by now. Nothing this campaign, or anywhere. I wonder if they're broken.
>>538317030The woodelf outpost garrison is amazing.
>>538317423is it now?
>>538317030they might be broken not sureis there a map of the spawnpoints anywhere? I see a rogue army like 1 out of every 5 campaigns and even then they don't really do much, I really miss how they could start their own empires in wh2
>>538317501The one they build in your city, not their regular cities those still suck. See pic rel.
>>538318168>See pic rel.I'm not seeing it, send me a DM
>>538317030>>538318336Jesus Christ, the state of this playerbase.
>>538316305they buffed the shit out of himthose reinforcements are way better than what you used to get
>>538317423It gives a quarter of a stack, three great units and two god-tier units.
This lord dreams of the say she can finally leave skavenblight and never fight another rat again (until the endgame crisis that is) This cities barely worth the investment to hold it.
Is cream fixed?
>>538320663idk hth
Petey's missile stats are getting out of control. Once I swap out the double barrel for a skytitan's string and get him a ranged banner he's going to be 2-hit killing lords.
>>538316149>>538317030>>538318154A mechanic so pointless and undercooked even CA forgot about it.
>>538320852Won't blunderpuss make it very difficult to deal the whole 1.2k damage to a small, single entity over a longer distance?
the only time rogue armies are ever relevant are when one appears in your province at turn 5 and immediately shits out a secondary army with the intent to declare war on you while you try to move on to your actual goals.
>>538321061you could probably count on one hand the amount of mechanics that haven't been forgotten about or neglected at this point
I absolutely detest the warband recruitment mechanic of WoC and its vassal system, it's the sole reason I barely play them, awful, just awful. The warband upgrades are good though and should be implemented game-wide to all factions, like upgrading a lower spearmanni to halberd, it's crazy when you think about it that you can't upgrade a saurus warriors to a saurus warriors (shields) and you have to entirely disband and re-recruit basically the same unit.
>all this talk of rogue armies not working>just got my shit pushed in by rogue army dookies with a shades (greatsword) doomstack
>>538322405Mods fix this
>>538322824>cheats fix this
>>538323035Yes.jpg
>>538316719>>538321061this nigga razed half of Bretonnia before Louen could stop him
>>538322405not sure if you dislike the system or don't understand how to use it, posting this anyways because why notIf you have 2-3 adjacent provinces with high corruption, you can instantly recruit a decent army already, and then upgrade it further later. And this is not counting gifted units. In dark fortress territory this is even stronger, but ultimately unnecessary since by the time you get T4-5 buildings you already have so many recruitment/xp buffs anyways, and you can spread corruption so quickly.The vassals are just there to protect your dark fortresses and give you allied units, they are hardcoded to be defensive. You just need to vassalize/subjugate whenever given the chance, and raze everything you conquer, and give your vassals xp from the dilemmas since you don't need xp anyways. Your vassals as one whole will colonize everything and snowball as the player would, but only if you let them.
>>538322405it's good until you lose an army or need to raise another one in the late gamelate game the enemies will be shitting out non stop high tier units while you are reduced to maraudersyour vassals do not really compensate for this especially if you vassalize a minor faction as their auto resolve power becomes total garbageon the other hand your campaign is so easy and steamrolly this rarely becomes an issue
>>538325454he just wanted to get to the beach
>>538325454That's kinda why the mechanic just feels undercooked.>Whoah, I love how this army, that soon will be at full two stacks, has just spawned in the very middle of my giant empire, 15 turns of forced march away from the frontlinessaid no one ever.
>>538329663this is sadly why i always keep my ror in serveyou might think it's cheese but it's better than having half your empire burnt down for no reason
>>538321560He doesn't need to blunderbussy to reliably miss at range. At this point in the game every lord of note is riding something, and they'll usually try to beat on him if he's alone. The trick is to kite them away from their army, let them get very close, then turn on fire at will and pop enchanted ballistics to ammo dump into them. Once they're down Petey can roll around their infantry casting Wind of Trenchgun.
This was a field battle and it rocked. I only wish I brought more wildwood can-openers.
>Play Archaon>Expect to go down to the old world and beat the shit out of it ASAP>Have to tard wrangle some dark fortresses, kill half of my potential allies, and fight chaos shitstacks for 40 turns first>Get down to Kislev and Throt has turned it into his personal shit pit>Eventually get down to the Empire and Festus/Vlad have double teamed it
>>538331980Yeah the Ordertide is nonexistant in TW3 which is a shame, Empire pretty much always gets swamped by Chaos/Rat/Vamps/Norsca every game unless the player is directly involved
>>538332096>the ordertide is nonexistant>the ordertide is too strongliterally everyone says something differentits just random
>>538332096The only ortdertide faction I've fought in the last 60 turns was Boris.What chaos faction actually gets to fight Order regularly?
>>538332345>>538332096If you play an evil faction ordertide is insane.If you play a goodie faction, the opposite is true.It's always been this simple.
>>538332405peepeepoopoos get the first crack at the empire
>>538332552other way around desu
I want landships but I also want welf units. Is it possible to make Orion and Franz get along?
>>538334316super easy, just gift settlements
>>538334593it is crazy what the ai is willing to do for a free settlement when it would otherwise be like pulling teeth from a toothless man
wtf are you supposed to do about Drazhoath as Tretch?
oh no!
>>538335427same as when you play drazhoath where you go after tretch the moment you secure your first provinceyou go after drazhoath the moment you secure your first province too, he is right there and you need to knock him out then move to imrik right away
hello there
>>538336696Yeah my initial problem was that I tried to go North instead of South on the map. I was able to catch him in an ambush and kill him. Thanks Anon.
>>538314991like tears in rain
Between Rise of the Republic and Wrath of Sparta, which is the right campaign to experience the beginnings of the Roman Empire? Based off the in-game descriptions, Rise of the Republic seems like the obvious answer, but it starts out after the empire is already established, and Wrath of Sparta takes place before then.
>>538338827Wrath of Sparta sucks, do yourself a favour and skip it
>>538339884Rise of the Republic it is thenWhy does Wrath of Sparta suck? It does seem messy at least.
>>538338827Wrath of Sparta does not have Italy at all. Despite being a Peloponnesian War game where the Athenians were destroyed in Sicily. WoS is a tiny scope, barely any new content/assets, hoplite warfare is rather shitty in vanilla R2.
>>538338827Also you're incorrect in that the empire was not established with ROTR. It's 300s, at a time in which the Romans held Latium and that was basically it.
no one cares about wrath of sharta
Anons I haven't played WH for a long time and I got back recently to play WH2 for Settra's campaign. Apparently the old spectator mode that I used back then doesn't work anymore and has been replaced by a much dumber AI General mod.I just want to watch my Hierotitan doomstacks wreck shit for fun but for some reason they keep breaking formation for no reason, like walking backwards just before they engage the enemy. Is there a smarter alternative to AI General?
>>538341083Without knowing much about history, the game made it sound like the empire was established 100 years before 399 when the campaign starts, but maybe I was getting that confused with the city of Rome. Still going with that campaign since it seems like a good "intro" to the culture. Only played a bit of Caesar in Gaul so far and it was fun, but I felt like I was spoiling myself starting out as a big dick empire without experiencing their origins.>>538342184Not sure but if you don't find anything you can always save replays of your battles if you want to watch them afterwards.
>>538341116Strong words for somebody in spearing range, you will endure my wrath!
>>538342729You should have fun with ROTR then. It was by the Troy/Pharaoh guys so the assets/visuals are good, there's nice faction variety (Sardinians, Greeks, Romans, Celts, Carthaginians). Allah forgive me for linking to R**ddit but I am too lazy to save the image and convert it to png, but you can see here: https://www.reddit.com/r/totalwar/comments/90dcdh/rise_of_the_republic_faction_starting_positions/#lightboxI am not sure if Latium is a single province or not, but you start with just 2 cities as Roma, so you're very much babby growing big. Which I agree with your taste is the more fun way to play.
the Divide et Impera mod has a really good overhaul of Rise of the Republic too
would you live in this house
>>538246575>>538246614
>>538343914Seems chill but it would get too dark. There is only one window that we can see.
I think I have too many cheats installed.
Meow Ying
>>538334316If you are playing Franz, just befriend the elves in the Laurelorn Forest, if you're Orion you're technically going against what his campaign is about
>>538327132>until you lose an army>in the late gameSounds like a skill issue
>>538331980Same with Tamurkhan. Wanted to go south but got stuck fighting Kholek, then Grimgor, then all of the Chorfs.
whats the easiest ai race to beat the shit out of and steal all their land for free?
>>538350360the one that nakai shits out and leaves helpless and undefended
>>538350360Lizards currently because their AI is broken.Otherwise probably Vampire Coast.
>>538350360Empire almost never stands a chance if you get to them early. AI just doesn't know what to do with them until it can start spamming landships
>>538350360skulltaker
Convince me that this isn't the worst unit in the game
>>538352241carrion and mounted yeomen exist
>>538352389Carrion and Mountain Yeomen are more useful than sky lanterns.In fact, the sky lantern is one of the few enemies carrion can beat.
>>538352241I didn't mind them, especially for siege defense and getting them to float above the walls to shoot enemies that have climbed onto them
vampire fucking shits get off my lawn
>>538352890Anon, that's just the placebo effect. Sky lanterns don't do anything. They are flying paperweights that do nothing. They have 30 ammunition. If they expended all of it on wall defenders, it wouldn't kill even a single full unit. You are better off with literally any other unit.
>>538352241I had to think about it and the best use of these is only for SEM or hero assassinations which the roster has better options so you win
>>538353740I saw a video where three of these fucking things were shooting at Throgg and it took them 5 fucking minutes to kill him with aid from a lord.
how am i supposed to defeat the vampires as nurgle good fucking lord, i am wiping out vampire doom stacks left and right but they just keep spawning new armies out of thin air and are ironicly widdling me down through attrition, winning almost every battle but not sure how to win the war here
>>538354117I think I discarded these from my mind tactically so quickly without ever seeing how bad they actually were that anytime my magistrates leveled I would just put them back on the horse where they belong
>>538347564the bastions defense requires it
>turn 4 undercitywtfDoes the AI just get these automatically?
>>538355084I think some factions start with an undercity.I think Ikit used to get an automatic undercity at Altdorf.
>>538355445I don't know about Ikit but I've played plenty of Snikch and he doesn't start with any undercities. Must be an AI only thing.
This was a lot easier than I expected it to be, I did one time play an Oxyotl campaign in early WH3 to near completion but I feel like that's cheating to compare it to other Ligger campaigns (and in this case, Mazdamundi's), he's the only one to have a cool and slightly more balanced teleportation system compared to the newer bullshit ones CA has added. Early game fucking sucks but they give you decent enough troops to deal with it early on and while economy never really gets good until you have like 20+ settlements going, I feel like the major issue Im having is that I don't really have time to stop and recruit their big monsters on account of being railroaded into conflicts, the campaign felt like I was constantly having to deal with big threats that just had a shit ton of armies (Yuan Bo then Markus then Skulltaker then Skrolk) where I just had no time to recruit their big monsters. Also Temple Guards either need buffs or to be brought down to and T1/T2 for Saurus Warriors + a buff to the red line and tech tree for Temple Guards, its really sad how cool they look but the only ones worth grabbing are really the blessed variant and the RoR, even then they're outperformed by the Blessed variants of Saurus Warriors. Still had my fun but if I revisit the liggers I want to pick a campaign thats a bit more comfortable than Mazdamundi, playing him is fun as hell however.>has a strong mount>has strong magic>has barrier>tanky as fuckNow I dread the last campaigns I have to do for the VH trophy. Not doing Norsca or Slaanesh until their DLC and rework so that leaves>Beastmen>Wood Elves>VCounts>Bretonnia>VCoast>DanielPart of me wants to wait on VCounts and Bretonnia to get a rework since VCounts might get a slight one if Neferata or Nagash ends up added after ToT and maybe theyll make Daniel fun at some point in the future so Im holding off on those.
>>538360131just cheat Daniels campaign, its unironically not worth playing if you have this much autism
>>538360494>actually cheatingAs gay as this campaign is Id rather just suffer through it, that being said I still have options before then so Ill take those for now, nigger
>>538360131Daniel is never getting reworked. Daemons of Chaos is abandoned. There's a reason they put Be'lakor in WoC with infinite daemon gift unit slots as a band-aid.
>"I-I need my autism sticker that I beat this campaign on a hard difficulty so I can feel special about it!"
>>538361410Definitely feels that way, really makes me wonder why they decided to make Daniel in the first place if they were just gonna make Belacuck be everything youd want from Daniel and more in vanilla.
>>538362286The "build your donut steel daemon prince" idea was probably intended to help sell the base game.Be'lakor is part of DoC codewise in Realms of Chaos and in custom battles but he was moved to WoC for IEE, likely because CA recognized that the faction was unsalvageable without redoing it from the ground up.
>>538363054I think theres a cool system that was just outright abandoned, I remember when Daniel was first revealed and his mechanics people were not only looking forward to it but the idea being used as like a gear system for other Lords in the game. At the end of the day his mechanic ends being the worst one because theres nothing interesting about the body parts. You use whats optimal and it makes you a worse version of better LLs at the end of the day that has to specialize when other LLs can do what he does but better with less effort. Its also lame that the fall back is "just use mods" because CA has shown at times they can fix things up but if GW mandated theyre not allowed to touch the faction like they did with VCoast, then thats just extremely gay.
wayfarer is dumb and need a nerf
>>538286464I didn't know they added poise back to soulslop, maybe I oughta play this one
>>538175553we're so back
>>538360131Bretonnia is super fun
How would you react if GW allowed TCAL to add Stormcast Eternals to the Empire
>>538375392>TCAL Faggotg8 b8 m8
TCA
TCLAP
tclap tclap tclap tclapgo bankrupt go bankrupt go bankrupt go bankrupt
Reminder
>>538313036why does the wh2 campaign map look so much better
>>538377770Less saturated. More washed. Been ~2 years since I last touched WH2 but I think there's just less shit around, less busy. Makes it easier on the eyes. Maybe a difference with fog too but I can't say for sure on this as I've removed fog from campaign map in my WH3.
>>538377770They probably couldn't produce similar level of quality on a scale that would be required given all the corruptions and shit so they went with easier and cheaper plastic warcrafty style. In other words Hyenas.
wait they weren't actually supposed to come down from the chaos wastes... I just joined the war to keep my outpost...
Don't let any of this distract you from the fact that Magnus the Pious once stuck his hand in a 15 year old Lahmian vampire's supple, developed ass.
>>538380453Magnus the Pious? More like Magnus the Based.
Is there a mod for WH3 that makes the battles closer to old TW style (morale importance, less hp reliant systems)I love the world of warhammer but I get so incredibly bored playing it as an RPG. Stat pumping is unappealing to me, I want my unit positioning to matter
Wait did they expand Valkia's area?
>>538382279Which area? Her ass?
how bad kairos is? never played him
>>538360131Beastmemes are a lot of fun. If you're having trouble getting into it play Morghur as his early game is pretty on rails and comfy.
So...if you have that Tzeentch unusual location that will grant buffs to future campaigns will there be any option to turn it off? Like having those buffs would be fun for a bit but eventually you might not want to have such powerful events that could trigger.
>>538383235just delete the building if you don't like it, it's not that hard
>>538383235Can't you turn it off in the options?Also are you REALLY worried about """accidentally""" moving a character with 20 LL defeat traits to that location and powering it up? Fucking lmao
>>538383103Based ESL. He isn't hard.
Doing a Gelt campaign and Zhao Ming actually locked in and has been beating back Vilitch and Snikch. His sister immediately jobbed in the north though.
They need to retune the TK economy, there's no way I should be making 10K+ per turn by turn 50
who the fuck is this
>>538386694Those upkeep reduction effects are paying off
>>538386694but anon, the DLC will get delayed (again)...
>>538386694You make that much or more on pretty much everyone by that point in the game.
>>538386810He's the Counter, duh! Can't you read?
why does ai cathay only recruit lions and peasant horsemen
For the first time I watched a Costin Gaming campaign guide video where he accidentally revealed how he had manually fought only 8 out of 90 battles during his campaign. And people seriously watch this scrub for advice?
I think my least favorite part of any campaign is when I have to fight skaven in the late game when they just have 10 shitstacks scurrying around everywhere
>>538343019yeah, I endured it, now what?get lost loser
>>538343914no, its build in shitty place, the rain would flood it every time it rain
>>538380453he was pious before or after that?
im a tranny. factions for this feel?
>>538388948>For the first time I watched a Costin Gaming campaign guide video where he accidentally revealed how he had manually fought only 8 out of 90 battles during his campaign. And people seriously watch this scrub for advice?Seems pretty normal for a content creator. ElvenPlotArmour straight up made a guide for one of the Chorf LL's where the play was to AR every single battle in the first 10 turns.
>>538390596Alarielle
>>538352241Funny, on the table everyone's complaining that they're way too good right now
So the AI actually can roid up Archaon?
>>538386694Not like TKs really need money.
>>538352241Grail Reliaques.You can buff the peasants to the max and they'll still get rolled over.
Question, why didn't CA implement a simple mechanic like the did in 3 kingdoms where by a certain number of turns, say turn 60. The different factions consolidate into a handful of empires and create a true mid to late game experience? This is such an obvious solution to solving the current late game nonsense which allows the player to snowball and turn every campaign into a cakewalk. There should be some kind of pressure on the player to expand enough to make the cut within 60 turns otherwise it just kind of makes every campaign kind of pointless imo.
Guys. Please tell me one of Slaanesh's DLC units isn't something you can get right now as N'Kari after allying with Delves, building an outpost and going to Allied Recruitment.
>>538394361but you can't ally recruit in multiplayer!
>>538394298Too many players complained about super empires in WH2 where you would fight in every campaign the same couple super strong factions.CA listened.
>>538394639>Too many players complained about super empires in WH2 where you would fight in every campaign the same couple super strong factions. ffs CA. Then tweak it. You don't have to abandon the whole idea. I think you are talking about the "Order tide " stuff rather than what I am referring to specifically which would be a tweak to the how factions confederate and form alliances.
>>538394912It's all about how people complain about the problem. If people are shortsighted and too retarded to see the future consequences while begging for a change then it's on us that we didn't tard wrangle the retards better.
>>538395374I hate people
>>538395374CA has effectively eliminated all resistance. Because of the focus on reddit and the new, worse, forums, the only ones with the power to "tard wrangle" are the influencers because anyone else is just going to get drowned out by rabid fanboys. And aside from a few retards like legend or volound who no one takes seriously anyways, they all work for CA and more or less decide what the ""community"" deems to be an issue or not.
>>538388948I usually turn it off before then because he starts ranting about how much he hates Jungles in the first 5 minutes of every video no matter what race or area of the campaign map he is discussing.It's a shame because his videos are about interesting concepts but ultimately has nothing interesting to say in his weird whiny voice.
>>538396549Yes very nasally and repetitive. I presume he is Romanian because many of them have that same reedy scratchy accent when speaking English.
i became a 28 year old incel today, LLs for this feel?
>>538398556lmao faggot
>>538398556Happy birthday incelanon!
>>538398556Teclis, to prepare you for wizard powers.
>>538398556play Alarielle to purify your soul, anon.
>>538398556Kemmler has strong incel energy.
>>538267462Meme faction that doesn't make sense in a game where there is no naval battles
When playing as Gelt, do you guys prefer to stay and bring Sigmar to Cathay? Or do you play diplomatically and return to the Empire? What do you do if that's the case?
>>538352389You can use mounted yeomen as fleeing unit destroyers
>>538353053Anon relax with the ultra mega wide screen
>>538400324Return to The Empire and colonize some ruins because you get given some really big bonuses and get to save The Empire with a decently strong starting army.
>>538400523>fleeing unit destroyersSounds good in practice but in reality this scenario never materializes and even if it does it doesn't warrant taking the unit over something that will win you the battle harder instead. The main 2 reasons why chasing fleeing units doesn't really happen is because the enemy will fight to the death until they're almost wiped out no matter what the player does or doesn't do and the other reason is AR is 1000 times more effective at destroying everything in the enemy stack than any chaser can hope to achieve.
>>538400324staying in cathay to get the double damage spells and fight different opponents is funif i wanted to play an empire run in the empire id just play karl or elspeth
>>538192419>damn it's late, im gonna do the tutorial real quick then be asleep by 1am>look out of my window and it's 10amHoly shit.What the fuck, this game is fucking awesome.I have never had so much fun with a videogame before since like what, a decade?It's like I could smell the Wargame shop owner's cigars all over again.And I'm just playing the first game, I can't imagine what awaits me next.
Looking at new DEldars, maybe new DoK models won't be bad
>>538402287Fuck, wrong thread...
>>538402287>>538402416This is The Warhammer™ general
>>538402416Oh, right! TWW40k! Yeah! Squire anyone?
>>538402416Itll be the right thread in 2026, don't worry
>>538402238Enjoy your time, anon. What faction btw?
So female Archon anyone?
>>538401337it can be worth having a unit of light cavalry or dogs in a different race's army for niche cases when it is worth it like fighting skaven or chasing down a fleeing hero, but the issue with yeomen specifically is that they have to compete with knights, who are still ok at this while also not sucking
>>538402287>>538402416/tg/fugee in the wild
>>538402949Shit, wrong thread again...
>>538402287>>538402598>>538402949looks fucking dogshityou retards actually pay for this?
>"No, I wont confederate with you despite you being richer than me, having a much stronger power ranking and despite the fact that the enemy are right at my doorstep with 3 full armies because we only just met this turn so you cant even try to do diplomacy to save me and also im halfway across the world."They really need to give every race in the game an option to confederate with a dead LL from your race, the Dwarves and Beastmen do it fine just do something equivalent to that for every other race instead of having to race a Hero across the world and hope you make it in time before they get wiped out.>inb4 just use modsFuck no, CA should fix this shit, theyre adding this option for High Elves now and theyre the ones thst least need it besides for people that really wanted to confederate Teclis because the rest of them will usually survive long enough to confederate, now do it for the Skaven who are spread out, The Empire and VCounts too
Raise your arms, men!
>>538402287>>538402598>>538402949Valrak was right once again... He never misses... Could it mean? No... No way... CA would never... It wouldn't work with the formula... Not possible...
>>538406503>those random white treeslmao
>>538407176>He doesn't live in Numenoryikes
>>538406737>Valrak was right once againAbout what?
>>538407176It's snowing outside, can't you tell?
>>538407395THIS
>>538407626Well, most factions in 40k are delusional, same as trannies, so it kinda fits.
>>538407395Deldar
>>538407626there's two types of warhammer fans: the obese and the transgender
>>538408547grim...
>>538408547that's just tabletop hobbyists in general, go to any games store on game night if you wish to experience this first-hand
>>538408790grave, even
I bought warhammer I and II, which of their starting factions is most complete without the extra lords and units from other dlc?
>>538411347LizardmenDark Elves
>>538408547There's also kids and the concerned parents escorting them
>>538411347Unlike warhammer 3 factions, they all do just fine without dlc. They might have some roster holes, but they are all good at what they do and have decent variety.I would say overall probably dwarfs though, since all of their best units are base-game until warhammer 3. Greenskins too if you don't care about goblins.
How the fuck do I increase each God authority in a given Lord with the Warriors of Chaos? Do I just have to use aligned heroes and "rotate them"?
>>538412132TechLeveling up the lord/heroes in the army
>>538412132authority is a useless stat, the only thing that really matters from it is upkeep, but you fight so many battles as warriors that money shouldn't be an issue
I feel like starting a Kislev campaign
>>538415339I like their new Ice Court/Orthodoxy mechanic so far, but I think there isnt an option to confederate the other faction through it anymoreNot that it really matters because Kostaltyn gets wiped out most of the time anyway
>>538415339Which LL?
>>538415727He doesn't if you help him out. If you take out the rats he usually fights off Azazel just fine.
>>538415339Play Boris and take out major threats early on then return to Kislev a hero/rescue it from the rats
Total War Fire Emblem
>>538361410>>538362286>>538363054>>538364095Yeah, the faction's fucked, which is a shame. Be'lakor should've been the LL. At least he ended up being the best WoC faction.
>>538402287Why would they purposely taunt talentlets and contrastards with that NMM on the official model?
Yep, Kostaltyn time.
>>538418802holy sexo
>vomiting all night, diarrhoea all night, found out I shit the bed this morningWhat LL?
>>538419482Meowing.
>>538419482Beastmen have a solid foundation of shitting on herdstones lore.Greenskins have a literal shit building mechanic.Nurgle? A mere animation. Pathetic.
Despoilers
>>538419482Belegar Ironhammer.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ku7Bd4pzArY
>>538417801since this isn't actually /tg/ maybe I can get away with saying this without cultists jumping down my throat. all of these "illustration" type painting effects that only look good from one specific angle with one specific type of lighting aren't appropriate for a toy that you are picking up and playing with. there's no reason to paint a toy like it's a 2d picture where you have to fool the eye into thinking it's 3d and shiny when it's actually 3d and shiny paint exists. it's all just a massive meme pushed by people closely connected to gw because it looks impressive in product screenshots and fueled by casual hobbyists because it seems "advanced" but doesn't actually require any hardware that isn't sold by gw.
>>538419482RAAAROOO
>>538407626Slaanesh is like the only faction where trannies are actually thematicWith imperial ones especially it's just pants on head retarded, just so self-evidently heretical>>538419482Sounds like a regular day in the life for followers of peepeepoopoofather Nurglel
>>538422698Chadtigors
>>538423249Oh Kaos-Faos Im pooooooing
>>538422698That incapability is actually physical not mental, the reason they drink so much is to distract themselves from the fact that being given the wrong number of limbs by chaos leaves them unable to move with any elegance, every single movement they make is clumsy including galloping. They are canonically disabled.
>>538423489grim
>>538178896>>538179128>>538179409>I defeated the dogshit ai that cant build economy, armies or do basic microWhy are SPsissies like this?
>>538423860>waits two days to reply with something you can reply to anybody who campaign/battle postsMPsissies...this isn't a good look for you!
>>538423860MPmonkey... this is a single player game, deal with it.
>>538175329I'm going to play Rome2 for the first time since launch. Any good mods or is vanilla somewhat fixed?
>>538424105Sorry but your OP units WILL receive the -2 MD and -5 LD nerf, you can always mod (cheat) it back in SPsissy! I hear Radious is as popular as ever!
>>538424591vanilla is fine
>>538424591Nothing fixes the dogshit AI that just sits in its starting city, builds two armies, then does nothing
>>538424591>>538425065>is vanilla somewhat fixed?It absolutely is not. The AI will easily run out food, so their armies will starve, recruit shit stacks, sometimes completely of slaves, and generally be kinda cowardly.I realize recommending an overhaul out of the gate might seem weird but I would HIGHLY encourage you to pick up Divide et Impera right away. There is a bunch of submods as well, like disabling pirate factions, which I recommend grabbing.
Playing Tiktaq'to and using loads of terradon riders is fun as fuck.Swooping over a city and bombing the retards on the walls is hilarious.
>>538425314Delete thist. Belakor
>>538425314It is but I still don't understand the normal riders
>>538425420>It is but I still don't understand the normal ridersWhat do you mean anon?
>>538425586They just seem a little shit when bolas at least blows up infantry blobsI get the javelins are going to be better against bigger models but they seem mid even then
Are lizards still jurassic park armies only or can I use infantry and cavalry with them now?
>>538424763Singlebrothers... not like this...
>>538425203>DEIironic, considering the AI is blatantly cheating because it can't handle the mechanic added from the mod, along with other things that were added for "immersion" sake.
>>538426128Doomstacking is always inefficient shit that gives terrible towns taken per turnCold one spear riders are literally meta
>>538426561>metaMPfaggotry.
>>538426452>considering the AI is blatantly cheating because it can't handle the mechanic added from the mod, along with other things that were added for "immersion" sake.Sounds like every Total War ever desuAt least in DEI I meet actual stacks of real units
>>538426637I didn't say anything about MP
>>538426746"Meta" is inherently for MP.
now that the sales are coming what's the best warhammer dlc from each game?
>>538426920lol
>>538426637This this this! I prefer playing SP because the idea of strategy makes my fem brain hurty!
>>538427153Chaos WarriorsQueen and the CroneChampions of Chaos (but many would say Chaos Dwarves instead which is fair).
>>538427153Kangz, Chorf, Beastmanii (BoC, S&F), Chaosmanii (CoC, WoC).
>>538426920No?
>>5384271531: Chaos Warriors or King and Warlord2; Tomb Kings3; Chaos Dwarfs or Thrones of Decay
>>538426128Legends old tier list says theyre meant for SEMspam, yes
>>538425774>They just seem a little shit when bolas at least blows up infantry blobs>I get the javelins are going to be better against bigger models but they seem mid even thenOh yeah fair enough.I am using the fireleech bolas ones to blow up infantry blobs, and the normal javelin ones to target cavalry.
Braugh Slavelord LH when?https://warhammerfantasy.fandom.com/wiki/Braugh_Slavelord>Braugh Slavelord is an infamous Ogre slaver with necromantic powers
>>538428795Tell me about Braugh, why does he wear the mask?
just like my chinese drawings
>>538429527He's a big guy.
>>538420924It looks good from every side. And 3d models need advanced painting techniques no different from 2d art because they are small miniatures and light as well as paint and texture behave on them differently from how it does on something in a full scale. Which is why even basic highlights are so needed. Blocking out base colors alone won't be enough and will look like shit.And your conspiracy theory is wrong too. GW explicitly doesn't want to showcase advanced painting techniques on box arts and marketing material to not scare away newfags. It's preferable for a newfag to paint his first mini and not get absolutely blasted by comparison to a box art, else it would only make him feel bad and dissuade him from hobby.
>>538427153largely, entirely, and unequivocally subjective questionwhat do you want from a warhammer dlc?
If there were to be a cheat that disables unusual locations entirely, would this make the game more difficult for the player (even if it's slight)? I think yes, curious if anyone disagrees.
5% speed for all my infantry or a magic sword that's just okay
>>538432728What battle is +1 speed going to win?
>>538432728>>538432863The charge defence seems better than the speed, anywayI might pick the sword, uniques are funWhat's it do?
Gee, thanks.
>banish dookieman to the southern chaos aids>he only had one settlement down there >he asks for peace so I figure okay that's fine, oxy will finish him off>forgot lizardmen ai is gimpedNo mercy this time. God burning them out will be a hassle. >>538434252magical attacks, weapon str +12% and melee defense 10I refused the sword for thematic purposes since I'm finally starting to snowball now anyway
>>538434385I don't like how reddit and cringe this game's writing became after 1
>>538434849>Heh, looks like you um, aren't so undefeated after all, apparently...
>>538434849No kidding. There's a real shift in both quality and tone and not for the better. A lot of the loading screen quotes are fucking dogshit.
>>538434772>magical attacks, weapon str +12% and melee defense 10That's pretty good I'd say, especially the MD10
>>538429885>3d models need advanced painting techniques no different from 2d art because they are small miniatures and light as well as paint and texture behave on them differently from how it does on something in a full scalethis is pure cope from gw cultists. light doesn't reflect off of a 1 inch tall object differently than it does off a 6 foot tall object. if you paint a tiny model car with the same paint you would use on a real car it will look exactly the same but smaller. everyone not trapped in the gw ecosystem is aware of this which is why people who build scale models put so much work into small details.>GW explicitly doesn't want to showcase advanced painting techniques on box arts and marketing materialno gw doesn't showcase advanced painting techniques because they don't sell the products. gw cultists have been lead to believe that enamel paints will give them cancer and that primer is anything in a rattlecan.
>>538406737Every other video he talks about TW40k. It's coming and probably will be a tie in with 11th edition.
Are Huntsmen Generals or generic beatstick generals worth using as Empire? Why didn't they get Wizard Lord generals?!
>reinstall Pharaoh>launcher shuffles mod order>game crashes every end turn at the same faction's turnThere is no way to properly troubleshoot this, correct? Rhodes is the faction in question, but they aren't discovered to me in diplomacy so I don't even know what's going on over there.
>>538438235>wizard lordsAll you need is faith, steel, and gunpowder.
>>538438561forgot to mention it's turn 14 so not as easy as just starting a new campaign to test
Why does the AI rout through my lines behind me? These broken gnoblars are very insistent on running through my marauder formation even though there is nothing behind them.
>>538440179So they can recover and attack your rear(lol gay)
>>538440179i'd be ok with it if my units could do that too
>>538438235Huntsmen are fine for budget garrison huntsman nobody armies and are probably the weakest generalThe generic beatsticks are fine, they have good campaign and cav buffs, I think arch lector is best with master engineer being comparably more applicable and just better than the huntsman general though you'll probably get more use out of the engineer around mid to end game
>>538438235beatstick generals are ok fighters, not as tanky as arch lectors but they will get siege attacker and a flying mount insteadi'm kind of at a lost for huntsmen general these days, i guess they're ok if you don't have luminarks yet and need to shoot at big single entities
>line of tomb guard>embedded line of ushabti>coupla ushabti great bows in the back>TK on his mountdo I need more?
I thought I hated playing with the WoC but I have come around and I'm enjoying them a lot, playing with Be'lakor and it's actually a very fun campaign. Very rough start if you try to take on Bretonia first, better go after Norsca and get some dark fortresses first. And I got around the warband recruit system, kinda. Love the portals, makes you feel like a cartoon villain who just causes havoc, opens a portal and takes refuge in his dark fortress to plan his next evil move.
>>538444735Tomb prince or liche priest
>>538435024the walls of text lifted straight from gotrek and felix novels are especially low effort
>>538444735You need some Razorgor Chariots in my Chaospilled BeastpinionRAA ROO POOPOO
I swear I've been getting these random events wounding my heroes way more often after 6.3 dropped. The other day, it took Kroak from me on Turn 2.
>>538444735At least a Necrosphinx for anti large or some artillery
>>538444823The race is very fun but a lot of the campaigns feel pretty railroaded because you essentially have to go where the Dark Fortresses are which is Chaos Wastes and Norsca. Fun to play once but a little repetitive. Vassal mechanics are also dogwater and just feel like something you bother with only because normal settlements are mostly utterly worthless to you and/or because your faction effects give you bonuses for it.
>>538449578>The other day, it took Kroak from me on Turn 2.
>frogs making me go to war against my pet skeletonsrip
>>538444735yes
>>538444735no
>they dont know
>*Clicks on you*
>>538458187ARE YOU A GOD?
>tzeench crashes my computer because I'm winningmore like lord of SHIT
>>538458187we are THE BEST
>>538458187The stag is CUMMING!
>>538460661Just as planned.
Is vampire counts going to get anything new any time soon?I play them almost exclusively, and I was playing with someone who plays dwarves, and they seem to have a lot more mechanics.Vampires have raise dead, which is synonymous with global recruitment. Blood kisses which "just" gives you access to powerful lords. But no unique diplomatic mechanics, no unique economic mechanics, no unique item mechanics, vlad has a whole two quests and all they do is give him two pieces of (admittedly quite nice) gear. No access to the funky settlement-in-a-settlement stuff. It just feels very anemic. The faction is just paint the map with raise dead.
>>538458187WE HAVE PASSED THE GAP
>>538458187XEN YANG'S FAITHFUL
>>538461489they along with bretonnia and norsca are the neglected warhammer 1 factions so they are pretty basic yeahthey will most likely get a dlc update
I hope the techs for getting big bonuses for taking a Race's most important Settlement remain for Norsca, it's one of the few upsides they have and encourages exploration
sigmar fucking preserve us
Stretchy breastplates are the best unit upgrade
>>538455935niggas going to war in pyjamas and not even the fashionable pink pyjamas, shame
"Close" VictoryBarely scrapped by there
>>538461489how soon is "soon"? with the current pace, i doubt that they will get any kind of rework this year.
>>538461489Most likely will get something when they release neferata (they've already teased her) but thats probably happening next year
So I'm playing Chaos Dwarfs, Drazhaoth specifically. Is it me or are Infernal Castellan useless aside from their campaign bonus? I don't really see why I'd put these niggas in my army aside from moving further on the map. They don't get a lot of kills, they don't do a ton of damage and they don't really have a battlefield niche.
>>538476643Whats the deal with the von carsteins?The only warhammer exposure I've had is the sick ass nagash books and the okay but not as sick vampire war books. There seems to be a total disconnect between the two.is this like a warhammer fantasy vs age of smegmar thing or are the nagash books just fanfics?
>>538478426Rush the Restock ability for extra ammo for your arty. They still aren't great but between that and the campaign boost they're worth taking IMO, the other lords and heros also get a lot of mobility to murder backlines so it's nice to have something to encourage the frontline.
>>538478426Movement buff alone is a good enough reason to always have one but you are correct, they aren't that good in battle beyond gaining the ability later on to replenish ammo for your other ranged units.They get two specializations. The close range one is okay but it is a niche that the rest of your army doesn't have trouble filling already.The sniper specialization is better for doing chip damage to enemy single entities and lords since Chorfs don't have any good assassins other than Gorduz.
>>538479109>>538479136Makes sense I guess. Are the Bulltaur heroes worth it or no? Otherwise it just seems like Gorduz and the mage heroes are decent but otherwise Chaos Dwarfs look like they have shit heroes.Which is fine as long as their units are good which they seem to be.
>>538478669Black Library gives its authors a surprising amount of creative freedom, so any disconnect or inconsistencies can probably be explained by that.Since you mention the nagash books, I will use Arkhan as an example. In the End Times main lore books, Arkhan is completely loyal to Nagash, and looks forward to serving him after he conquers the world.But in the ET novels, Arkhan sorta dislikes Nagash, or is at least tired of him, and is only serving Nagash so that his master will allow him to die.Pic related is from the main lorebook, but you won't find Novel Arkhan thinking like this.The romance between Arkhan and Neferata is also, AFAIK, a Black Library invention.Warhammer Fantasy, like 40k, is kind of a patched together setting, and though Games Workshop can be autisticly anal about some things, they are surprisingly lax about others.
>>538479343They're your generalist anti-large beatstick. Chorfs actually lack anti-large melee options, which really isn't a problem because large entities die to gunlines anyways. Their stats are decent but their usefulness falls off as the campaign goes on.If you aren't fighting ogres then I usually just stick it on the flank to protect my artillery from random cav charges.At the very least they have lower upkeep than actual Bull Centaur units. I wind up just using them as agents later in the campaign.
>>538478669the nagash books have been mostly retconned
>>538479343>Are the Bulltaur heroes worth it or no?Very much yes, they get shitloads of good buffs from their skill line and are quite good at killing enemy large units and single entities, dunno what >>538479136 is on about saying Gorduz is the only good assassin, the only shit I've seen them struggle against are dedicated small anti-large like Skarsnik and the top-tier legendary lords like Malus/Tyrion/Skarbrand that would assrape Gorduz as well as 90% of the game's roster
>>538458187YER NOT ROIGHT IN THE 'EAD
>>538479949That makes sense, the way the vampire were created and the characterization surrounding that did seem very different going from the books to reading tidbits about the lore from first hand sources.>>538480220What kind of stuff was retconned? It was the von carsteins specifically that kind of came out of left field for me. I'm trying to remember what else confused me going from nagash to the vampire wars but I can't remember now. Maybe I will read them again.Did we ever get an abhorash book?
>>538411347Bretonnia is entirely free (Repanse is probably the most fun in 2) and pretty fun even though they kinda got powercrept out of relevance by WH3. High Elves have some of their better stuff DLC locked (e.g. Archmage lords and Sisters of Avelorn doomstacks) but Alith Anar and Imrik are both FLC, centered around base game or FLC units anyway so you don't need Sisters quite as much, and are super fun. The only faction from them you really need DLC to make properly shine imo is Skaven (Ikit/Clan Skryre's units are basically a must for them), you're not gimping yourself too hard without it for most of the WH1/2 armies otherwise.
>>538480356Surprisingly no. The Necrarchs and Strigoi got books but not the fucking Blood Dragons for some reason, altough he he does appear in the Neferata and Master of Death books. They're by Reynolds, and have their moments (there's a scene with Neferata and Arkhan I quite like) but I prefer the ultra loyal Arkhan, so I ultimately didnt finish them.
WoC not having a standard hero that increases campaign movement is actually fucked up.
>>538175329>yet another Chorf campaign>yet another unwanted detour into SUBHUMAN PIECE OF SHIT UNLOREFUL FANSERVICE CATHAY
>>538481838Plap plap plap plap plap get bugged get bugged get bugged get bugged get bugged
Cathay is cool! COOL!
Do banshees make good assassins?I need them for army movement and growth, but they don't seem very useful in battles.For that matter neither do wights or necromancers. Vampires just seem to overshadow both by being pretty good flying melee heroes with life leech and the black sun spell.
>>538480356one the things was the hes called arkhan the black because his gums are black because of chewing tobacco, when its actually because when its a reference to his black skeleton because of cursed fire(arkhan has been literally whitewashed in every media depiction of him)they changed the story from neferata learning to create the false elixir from w'soran, which is an invention from the rpg book nights dark masters, to arkhan, which doesnt make any sense because arkhan hasnt been resurrected yet, and has been dead for 80 years and doesnt get resurrected until 340 years after vampires have been created, w'zoran is never really mentioned to that capacity in the army books as being the father of vampires, that still an rpg invention but it doesnt contradict anythingthey made alcadizzar drink the false elixir of life but he was immune and that caused the expulsion of vampires from nehekhara, and not the fact that the necromancy being discovered and was an affront the godsthey made neferata pine after alcadizzar, which doesnt make any sense because of similar circumstances of the above, and not vashaesh which the prior story from the aforementioned rpg book, and he is the progentior of the von carstein bloodlinetheres probably more, but you get the idea, all of this was relatively nebulous canon because of the 7th, but by 8th it was all retconned by tomb kings throwing down a timeline
>>538483983Necromancers have a niche use as a battery with arcane conduit. Banshees are better spent as assassins for farming blood kisses.
>>538484073Interesting. I liked the arkhan the black being because he chewed tobacco. The bizarrely human epithet was a nice contrast to the fact that he eventually became ARKHAN THE BLACKGreat terrible arkhan. Arkhan the black. Black with evil and death? No he just liked chewing tobacco before he became ARKHAN THE BLACKKind of helped paint that picture of how these were once people. Nagash was once "just" a priest albeit a royal one. Arkhan was once "just" a man.
>>538484373Yeah, TK are kinda neat that they still hold on to a lot of human trappings. A lot of them would probably want to be human again if given the chance (as long as they keep their immortality ofc)
>>538483983do wight kings get scabskrath in sp? necromancers can ride corpse carts which you probably want 2 of in every army so you can have one of them be your hero.
>>538484540I haven't really figured out how to do vampire count armies yet. I use mortis engines but only because mister youtube man told me to and mister youtube man hasn't told me to use corpse carts. Vlad starts with one and while its good for a FREE unit I never really go out of my way to get more of them.
>>538484373most tomb kings are people and the reason why theyre mad as shit is because theyre not people anymore
>>538484540>do wight kings get scabskrath in sp?Nah, it's one of those mp items.>>538484829>Vlad starts with one and while its good for a FREE unit I never really go out of my way to get more of them.The unholy lodestone one is great and should probably be in every army though it's better as a mount, the healing stacks with a mortis engine. The basic one is fine in a shit army if you don't have access to the better one, it'll do more than another unit of skeletons.
>remember, don't lock your knees as you fall!
BEHOLD - A MAN!
>>538488436>For the Poli-ACK
>>538458187DAWI FROM ANOTHER HOLD ARRIVE
>>538479343The biggest chore I find for chorfs is just that you have no replenishment hero aside of Gorduz. But yeah what I like about the bulltaurs (and the hero) is that they are tanky as fuck cavalry. This was many patches ago but I consistently could send them off to the flanks and they would just about never die to enemy cavalry unless they were getting double whammied by ranged.>>538472661I fucking hate how they did the Kaskians. They look so - wait that's thracians? Either way they remind me of the Kaskians and they look like the most pathetic hobo bums I'd ever seen. I can sympathize with CA in that there is nothing and I mean a big fat NO THING about kaskians beyond "They grow linen and farm pigs, have some chariots and Hittites were afraid of them". But I wish they had gone with a different design choice. I like the more unga-bunga fur half cloak I am modding for them as that seems to be the artistic topos Mesopotamians did for hill-apes.
>>538273910>i make mods too and that is literally the only reason people do the exclamation mark shit>>It's up to the users to manually order their mods>you underestimate the laziness of playersTrue, i can confirm, player hereAnd i never manually order my mods, too lazy to figure it out, even if i can easily figure it out, if it's more than 20 mods i ain't doing that shitSo stop being a lazy nigger and name your mods with the appropriate exclamation marks!
>>538488945those are still forelegs and its body is covered in fur so it doesn't counta man looks like this:
>>538478669read the nagash books and the fillowup neferata/w'soran books but it's been a while so I don't remember the detailsVlad is one of the Lahmian nobles from the books, one of the ones who fled after the fall of nagash, don't remember the nameyou could say he is and always was a bitch
>>538490806i look like that
>>538491235same desu
>>538402287>>538402598hold up a second, is that fucking shadowheart as an Eldar?
>>538495236>generic dark-haired pointy-eared ugly freak>woah is that SHART?!?!?!Both do Elves a disservice.>inb4 but shart is halfCease.
>>538491235>>538491506behold: anons!
>>538458187COLD BLOODED KILLERS
Did they ever mentioned when will we get any news after 6.3?
dead threadI also have nothing to post so here's what Suppiluliuma would have totally looked like IRL
>>538458187BLEARGH
>>538458187Poke, poke, poke, is that all you do?
>High Elves>Dark Elves>Wood Elves>Dwarfs>Chaos DwarfsWhere's the Dwarf equivalent of the wood Elves?
>>538505492Halflings.
>>538490315Yes they are Kaskians, but I am using the Bronze age Variety mod, which remixes the assests for the different cultures, so they might have some Thrace assets. >>538502734looks like someone got carried away in character creation
>>538505492High Elves = Imperial Dwarves (cultured, mostly diplomats/merchants/blacksmiths)Dark Elves = Chaos Dwarves (both serve Chaos)Wood Elves = Dwarves (smelly, doesn't bathe, disgusting)
>>538506672Holy lorelet.
>>538505492Wood Dwarfs would be pretty kino ngl
>>538505492Norscan dwarfs
>>538505492It's the slayers.
>>538491235>>538491506>>538495404
>>538510946diogenese stop spitting on rich peoples faces
>>538512271diogendeeze nuts
Is Total War: X better than X: Total War?
>>538514702No and I still to this day really hate that they did that
Dead thread, what 40k army you want to plas as the most?
You are either very brave, or very foolish.
>>538515000Can't argue with trips. The next title will be X: Total War.
>>538515064Female Custodes
Fuck WoW, Warhammer forever.
These smaller scale BArk fights are nice. Is there a way to tell in advance the difficulty of the sea encounter? Some are far weaker.
Fuck Warhammer, WoW forever.
>>538515064whatever faction has Rogue TradersI want to rogue my trades
>No DLC in 2025Grim...
>>538517691>romancing a fucking fishHeresy
>>538517764I went full dogmatic and still romanced the fish>the most intolerant racist in the galaxy>his mutant gfthe meme writes itself
>>538517756Didnt they say late october (which of course will mean early november)
>>538518675They also said that they're still trying to figure out Norsca and restarted Dechala from the ground up so there is no way they'll be ready by late October
>>538518624never ask an inquisitor what species his henchmen are
>Ligger AI is completely broken>still no hotfixI shouldnt have trusted those lazy slav-turks.
>>538517691>whatever faction has Rogue TradersProbably none. Rogue Traders have a very minimal presence in the actual 40k lore. What I try to tell you is that Rogue Traders worn't be in the game unless there's like a wide faction Imperium.
>>538519059they might be an agent at most
>>538519114Rogue armies, maybe?
>>538519310yeah that too not a bad idea desu
>tfw the Bretonnian faction turned down my diplomatic offer and was unnecessarily mean about it too
>>538520031 CHURL
I saw Louen Leoncoeur at a blacksmith in Couronne yesterday.I told him how cool it was to meet him in person, but I didn’t want to be a douche and bother him and ask him for fiefs or anything.He said, "Oh, like you’re doing now?" I was taken aback, and all I could say was "Huh?" but he kept cutting me off and going "huh? huh? huh?" and closing his hand shut in front of my face. I walked away and continued with my shopping, and I heard him chuckle as I walked off. When I came to pay for my stuff up front I saw him trying to walk out the store with like fifteen identical longswords in his hands without paying.The peasant girl at the counter was very nice about it and professional, and was like "M'Lord, you need to pay for those first." At first he kept pretending to be tired and not hear her, but eventually turned back around and brought them to the counter.When she took one of the swords and weigh it on her scale, he stopped her and told her to weigh them each individually "to prevent any magical infetterence," and then turned around and winked at me. I don’t even think that’s a word. After she weighed each sword and put them in a bag and started to say the price, he kept interrupting her by yawning really loudly.After paying for the swords he proceeded to leave the store and throw all of them in the garbage. Haven't seen him since.
>>538518783>restarted Dechala from the ground upYou what. I missed this. Please don't fuck it up, CA (they will).
>>538520274>>538520295
I miss when raged units were there to provide chip and morale damage, supress the enemy's reckless advance, not just be thew main killing machines outdoing cav all the time
Sqvire, even in ze age of bronze, ze horse reigns supreme!
>>538521604infantrybros...
>>538520031
>>538521308I think RTW2 is where it tips over because general skills and army traditions really let you push the ranged rape on certain army compsOn DEI you even have hybrid troops like shielded spearmen that carry bows, you can make very viable armies that are basically all either hybrid or dedicated archersAnd horse archer armies with Parthia or the steppe tribes, forget about it
>>538521604chariot haters BTFOwheeledchads keep on winning
>>538521604Total Libu Death
>>538521889>no hounskull bascinet wearing lords in-gamevghwhat could've been
>>538515064Blood Angels. I miss the Librarian Dreadnought.
>>538522921>beakie rip-off
How does the Gelt campaign work? Do you get asked politely to leave at around a certain turn or is it based on the rebel Cathay factions being destroyed or not?What do you guys recommend to do? Leave or stay? What should Gelts army composition look like? So far I've just been adding a wizard from each school as I can get them.
>>538517691Closest thing you can get to a Rogue Trader army in the tabletop wargame is picking Imperial Guard, particularly with plenty of auxiliaries, and tuning them up. I doubt they're gonna be a thing in a Total War game.
>>538525051When you wipe out the chinks you're told to wipe out you get a choice to return home, refuse to go home or tell him to go fuck himself right away. I would never go home because the landmark is too good to pass and besides I love the smell of napalm in the morning.
>>538484829cunts are good because you can stack like 4 different types of regeneration and make an unkillable melee blob.
>>538525093thankfully CA doesn't give two shits about the tableslop game and will just add factions that never had modelsthey'll make a Rogue Trader army anyway and then a couple years later GW is going to make Rogue Traders into an official faction
>page 9we're free...
>>538526613 New Thread
>>538525730>Rogue Trader armyThat makes no sense anon.You'll get wood eldar (exodite) though.
This thread is about to be archived so no one will see me saying CHAOS SUCKS PEE PEE AND EATS DOO DOODeal with it.
>>538538278BEYOND YOUR COMPREHENSION
