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What could the next Legendary Warbond possibly be? Edition

Last time: >>538266007

>WHAT IS HELLDIVERS 2?
HELLDIVERS 2 is a 2024 crossplay, co-op, squad-based, PvE 3rd person shooter for PC, PS5 and XBox Series X/S where players fight against hordes of alien insects, robots and squids to Spread Democracy™. Players wage war on contested planets, each with a different biome, completing as many objectives as possible in a procedurally generated level while constrained by a time limit. With enough successful missions, a planet can be defended or liberated, and the player base must combine their efforts as much as possible to Liberate™ the galaxy.
https://store.steampowered.com/app/553850/HELLDIVERS_2/
https://www.playstation.com/en-us/games/helldivers-2/
https://www.xbox.com/en-us/games/store/helldivers-2/9mx9wn9dfpgt

>WHAT ABOUT THE FIRST HELLDIVERS GAME?
Released in 2015 for PC, PS3/4 and PS Vita, the original HELLDIVERS is a shared screen top-down shooter in the same setting. Its mechanics were based primarily on Arrowhead's first game, Magicka.
https://store.steampowered.com/app/394510/HELLDIVERS_Dive_Harder_Edition/
https://www.playstation.com/en-us/games/helldivers/

>LOBBY HOSTING
https://files.catbox.moe/83ixkr.png
>MODDING
https://files.catbox.moe/c81ogo.png

>INFORMATION RESOURCES
https://helldivers.wiki.gg/
https://helldiverscompanion.com/
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/u/0/d/1xA_wuSuV6NORqUCt1aZ203raG4HuUJ85btqmn0ld56U/htmlview

>MAJOR NEWS
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gUC24yAP7So
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dJi8VsvnkoE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5L-UQQIFQhw

>LATEST PATCHES
Sep 02 1.004.000 https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/553850/view/516345493302805199
Sep 04 1.004.001 https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/553850/view/516346126609155527
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Just tried the expendable napalm launcher and roasted myself alive with it. The area it covers is surprisingly large.
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>>538330349
what would an aliens hellbond even give?
>pulse rifle
>melee mech
>smart gun that misses all its shots
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>>538330474
>is surprisingly large
I know. Hope you enjoyed the session like I did
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>>538330498
What about a grenade-launching assault rifle?
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>>538330349
Baka. There's already a thread
>>538315990
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>>538330498
Amor the Weyland-Yutani spooks from Alien3 had would be sick.
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>>538330802
Who is the Baka here you fucked up the subject line and also didn’t like the thread God damn I refreshed the page like 80 times to make sure there wasn’t already another thread up. Thanks a lot.
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>>538330349
So I think 30 super credits is the broad cap for D1 isn't it?
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>>538330994
>You
Hey, don't blame me, I didn't make it.
It got changed to /hg/ for a thread due to memeposting and for stealing the name from the halo general (They'll just have to be /hag/ now on, since they're an old and expired franchise).
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nice fucking game, swiggers
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let's have a nice, clean thread without Gucci posting actual hardcore child pornography in it because of ten people calling him a retarded subhuman nigger in a row, okay Helldivers?
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You think they intended for it to fail?
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Say my name /hdg/...
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>>538330804
It'd be neat to have dogcatchers and the newer commando armor since that'd probably fill out both a heavy and a medium set, but I just know that they'd castrate the Pulse Rifle somehow.
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>>538334751
it's eeffoc

and it's funny
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>>538334751
Worthless piece of dog shit
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>>538334279
I feel like if people just did D4 sample hunts they could have got it
I feel like it was meant to succeed to justify some new stratagem research
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is it just me or do hive world have a lot more super credits per POI compared to normal maps?
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Every bug map should have an intense amount of shriekers. I like the way they die.
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>>538337278
>>538334279
If the reward mattered, we could have stuck it out. But for 55 medals, why bother? Veteran players have already maxed out their super destroyers, and donating to the DSS isn't really too impactful for individual players.
It's ironic that Arrowhead made a very convincing dystopian democracy where your contribution and voice are rendered irrelevant by the overwhelming masses of people, that they nailed the meaninglessness of perpetual war, that they created confusion and misinformation by leading players on and giving them bad intel, and the end result is that the game is very frustrating to play simply because actually living out the dystopian nightmare would suck.
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D10
Caves

steam://joinlobby/553850/109775243248551634/76561197999417031
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>>538337760
This but also Stalkers.
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>>538337278
I think theyre using this to sell the next terminid warbond
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is the thread dead already?
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>>538339284
>terminid warbond
Nice.
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>>538330474
It's fucking great. Mid but fun
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>>538338487
2/4
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bugs10
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>>538340996
2/4
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>>538340996
full?
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D10 Cave boogs
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>>538341803
2/4
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i wish i could join your lobbies but im not good enough
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>>538341803
3/4
>>538342603
Join stinky
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>Last squad member alive
>Hauling ass carrying SSSD across dunes
>Coast is clear
>Pause to call in team mate and sentry
>Pick SSSD back up and start running
>Hive lord decides to spawn under me and launch me into the stratosphere
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>>538341803
S-Still 3/4..
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>>538341803
4/4 full
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>thread less than 100 replies
where the fuck did everyone go?
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>>538345160
/hg/
someone messed up the subject
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stalwart set to 1150 rpm is so fucking fun
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>>538345692
um it says "hdg" for me...
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>>538315990
>>538315990
>>538315990
People went here if you're wondering.
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>>538345160
meming niggers changing fucking with the subject field
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>>538300705
i am the resident EDFchad and this is just your average mission there
i welcome the chaos
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The hivelord fight is very poorly implemented.
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/hg/ here, fuck off. Take JingleBaza with you and drown with him. Hate that stupid British faglord.
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>>538359556
Its just fucked that it takes 20 minutes of fighting to kill it with non-sweat teammates
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....but this is /hg/
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this game is so ass
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>>538361601
Normal D10 mission with random pubs
>they're retarded and think that they're "supporting" with gas mines and shit
>just let them be retarded while you actually do all of the heavy lifting, kill the heavies, and complete the objectives.

>D10 hive world mission with random pubs
>the hive lord shows up 100% of the time now
>they still bring sterilizer and gas mines to support
>they INSIST on fighting the memelord
>everyone has strafing run but the unwashed masses think that it's bad because it doesn't make le-ebin big boom and it was an early unlock so it must be bad.
>in fact everyone else on the team is attacking the memelord with weapons with AP4 or less.
it keeps happening and I am not ok with it.
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>missions are annoying instead of fun nowadays
>performance is shit
>lots of bugs that are yet not fixed (AMR misaligned, status effects broken)
>tone deaf devs
>no QA
>no communication (community managers are stealing paychecks)
>prioritizing content instead of Bug fixes/balance/performance passes
>reports of anti cheat are hard-locking PCs
>Illuminate are a failed faction
>audio issues, chargers that approach you with no audio cue.
>141gb (and it will keep going up)
>Antialiasing still broken
>devs dont read any feedback, community is an echo-chamber of toxic-positivity
>alexus

Can this game die already? its beyond salvation and it shows...
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https://live.tiermaker.com/45686313
Its time to bring real Democracy to this Freedom-forsaken communist hellscape. The official /hdg/ community tier list. Strategem edition. VOTE NOW. You have 24 hours to make your strategemeralds heard. Helldivers-GO-2-the-POLLS.
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can we compile a list of most egregious bugs
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I fucking hate how easy this game has gotten
They've toned down spawns so much since release
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>>538363689
Sounds to me you're burned out on the game.
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>>538363746
>missing half of the stratagems
>non-faction tier list
>0 effort put into it
fuck off
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How good is the Halo AR for the burrowing bugs?
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>>538363746
>vote D tier on everything
>close tab
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>>538363886
it isnt
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i'm of the opinion that they should delete the should have been abortion that is the punisher plasma
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>>538334751
IDS DA FUGGIN EBOGG DDDDDDD
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The next Legendary Warbond is crossover with the other /hg/.
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>>538363746
trash list
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>>538364074
I like the plasma guns
or at least I did, I haven't played for many months
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>>538364074
can you post your hours?
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>Diff 7
>Almost 2500 kills spread amongst 4 of us
Very poggers yes
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>>538364169
kill yourself
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>>538363886
Everything, and I mean EVERYTHING, in the halo warbond is aggressively mid at best. The only thing that is good for is milking gaylo fags with nostalgia. There isn't a single piece of equipment in it higher than B tier.
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>>538364164
put your dick in the barrel of a punisher plasma and pull the trigger
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>>538334751
eh-sex I mean eh-pok
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>>538337890
I sort of wish that literally everything in the game required some sort of token vote to make happen, but I dont think the added comedy value would be worth the pain in the ass the game would become.
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Is the halo warbond worth 1500 sc
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>>538364373
if you have to ask, it's not
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>>538364258
newsflash: the PP has no barrel you newfag.
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>>538364373
Built for Big Headpatting Comfort
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>>538364373
Depends if you're a bottom twink or not.
If yes, then yes.
Otherwise, no.
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>>538364373
no
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>>538331214
Naw I got 70 a fair number of times
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>>538363746
>no hover pack
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>>538364593
>bugs only player
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Peace between Super Earth and the Automatons!
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>>538364593
>ballistic shiel in S
Howmany of you tought it was guard dog? Be honest.
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>>538364812
no one cares about your dogshit tier list nigger
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>average vote
>nothing is S tier
>nothing is D tier
checks out
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>AH puts in slow moving sky centipedes that are dependent on LOS to shoot you and are extremely easy to kill with orbital gatling barrages or eagle strafing runs
>MIGHT kill a player with a plasma blast once or twice in a 40 minute mission if they're completely ignored
>not uncommon for /hdg/ lobbies to just go full time whale hunting for funsies
>public reception: endless outrage until they're nerfed into oblivion

>AH brings in a fast, highly aggressive and absolutely fucking relentless skyscraper monster that flops its big meaty mass around, terraforms the map, eats your calldowns and constantly saturates the map with instant death green cum
>average pubbie refuses to even attempt to disengage from it
>average pub lobby experience is helplessly watching 3 retards run around in the open at the objective the hive lord is currently cumming on until reinforcements are depleted
>public reception: IT'S PEAK PLEASE DON'T NERF IT ARROWHEAD
a little consistency would be nice
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>>538363746
I honestly didnt even look at the tier colors and did my votes completely backwards.
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>>538364936
no one cares about your dogshit tier list nigger
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>>538364812
I put it in S tier because I run melee builds with the stunspear/ flag of super earth routinely against all factions. It's fun, cinema and sovl.
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>>538364976
Same because green equal good red equal bad so my list looks fucked up now
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>>538365050
Also left to right is usually low to high.
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>>538362216
if i feel like it, ill host it after the lobby ends, depends on my tiredness
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>>538364949
I think the worm is bullshit and just a ticket tax you have to pay along with the broken legs tax and the orbital railcanon tax and I'm just getting gear checked and taxed at every corner and I play on difficulty 7.
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>>538364949
bugs is the slop faction.
sheep will defend them
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bros I farmed 3000 before I started to see only 10 sc per map wtf are we capped
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>>538364949
Does acid resistance even does anything against this guy? I'm using the killzone armor and I get melted the second he cooms on me
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>>538364949
the wyrm doesn't respawn
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>>538365332
why machinegun in C tier?
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is localization confusion worth taking on oshaune?
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>>538365332
the doggest of shittest tier list
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>>538365375
no cap fr
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>>538365384
Does nothing useful that isn't handled by something in everyones collective kit
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>>538365393
if you're dogshit then yeah.
imo (for cavebugs):
vitality > muscle enhancer >>>> POWERGAP >>>> crack stims > hellpod optimization > the other boosters
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>>538365397
what's wrong with it
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Lost Planet warbond when
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>Beats every single strategy ever
Simple as
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>>538364949
>extremely easy to kill with orbital gatling barrages or eagle strafing runs

okay anon be honest how many of each of these does it take to kill a leviathan
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Is this the worst warbond ever created?
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>rupture bugs are still vulnerable to explosions underground
>explosion spam becomes the new meta
>people still hat the pineapple
why?
And what are you using for your explosion spam?
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>>538365380
we gonna pretend that the average lobby is going to try and kill the hive lord?
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>>538364373
Sure if you own all the other warbonds and super store items you want. As long as there isn’t a new warbond coming soon.
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>>538365680
because pineapple is a direct downgrade to frag grenade?
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>>538365664
1 gat or 2 strafes
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>>538365675
No.

Theres
>force of law
>ceremony
>ODST pack
>Gas pack on release
>fire on release
>detonation on release
>fucking polar patriots on release

Theres nothing bad in that pack.

>>538365680
frag
I'm actually using pineapple because it's cool, but it's just a worse frag by a land mile
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>>538365675
That title belongs to the brap bond. The Deadeye is one of the best guns in the game.
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>>538365680
torcher
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>>538365664
NTA but it's like 4 or 5 seconds of fire from a gatling barrage, or two eagle strafing runs
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>>538365664
>okay anon be honest how many of each of these does it take to kill a leviathan
one
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>>538365675
>top tier primary
>top tier secondary
>decent grenade
>niche backpack
It's pretty good and leagues above something like freedoms lame or gaylo.
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Microcels and Snoyggers throwing tantrums created the Coyote, due to their inability to aim, and their refusal to use support weapons. Their reliance on AP3 makes them weak. The weapons they use will waxe and wane in effectiveness with each balance patch, and I will watch with glee at their torment at the hands of Alexus. Above the roiling tempest of their confusion, I will sit, light pen DMR in hand. Comfy and cozy.

And I will mog them eternally.
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>>538365737
why did no one use these strats for kill leviathan missions then?
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>>538364593
Why the laser in S and queso in A?
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>>538365675
No the deadeye, talon and cape are great
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>>538365887
retarded or unaware or inexperienced or too scared and pissing and shitting their pants
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>>538365887
For me it was easier to snipe them from across the map with an AT emplacement.
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>>538365814
Brapbond is good though, gas nades are S tier and stim gun is a one of a kind weapon.
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>>538365843
wow that's cool, I stand corrected.
AH was directly saying take smoke to deal with them, so I just assumed they weren't meant or easilly killable from the start.
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>>538365814
you dont know what fun is until you start shooting stims at your buds
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>>538365887
dude yellow number
dude glue eating
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>never see anyone take shield gen against diggers
>avoids the IRS stim tax
>immune to shitty bug slows
>just generally tanky
Why havent you become shield pilled against diggers
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>>538365992
>AH said
nigger if you believe everything on he internet you are FUCKED.
and I mean RAPED.
go ingame and experiment. I bet you think most enemies only have 1 solution too.
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>>538365832
Do you mean scorcher or do you really use a flamethrower against the one bug strain thats meant to ignore it?
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>>538365883
Okay, i like the xbox update now.
All alexus ire focused on console tards and their crutch guns while pc gods are spared.
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>>538366021
Or stimming the bugs they are fighting
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>>538365542
i dont understand the muscle enhancement thing. water has never been a problem for me on oshaune. i only play pubs and i havent had a mission since oshaune dropped where the reinforcements werent totally drained so i thought maybe localization confusion would be helpful, especially since several roaches in the sky at once isnt uncommon
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>>538366073
warp pack is just better in every possible situation
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>>538366075
>nigger if you believe everything on he internet you are FUCKED.
No I mean they litterally said it when asked players aren't supposed to kill them
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>>538365732
Isn't the point to spread multiple tiny explosions around?
Wouldnt that be way better for dealing with burrowers moving fast or multiple ones?
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>>538366190
they don't stack that much
and if they're focused on you, you literally can just make them unburrow with a single plaspun, loyalist or scorcher
or the fucking frag grenade
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>>538366093
fire goes through geometry (the ground) my nigga.
burrowers take full damage from it.
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>>538366073
warp pack is better, gets around a lot of the gay jank

>>538366190
You'd think, but the problem is that you get groups of them constantly. So you need a lot of frags to unburrow them. That and they usually don't need to get unburrowed unless they're in your face. And the pinapple spreads hard which can kill you
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>>538366171
What if you're the avarage console player though?
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why are the tunnels so fucking slippery? driving the vehicle in there is a nightmare

>>538363547
Arc Thrower is amazing if you know how to use it properly.
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>>538365992
well see what AH should have done instead was remind people of the humble jank ass assisted reload mechanic
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>>538366278
scream online
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>Switch back to dx12 from vulkan
>Gain back like 10-15 fps
>But now the game crashes when a mission has gone on too long
I just can't win vs swiggers huh
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>>538365732
Shittier nade with almost half the amount carried aswell.
What were they thinking?
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>>538365843
how can anyone stand playing with camera shake on jesus christ
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>>538366073
I did it once and people made fun of me
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>>538366157
it reduces most slows' potency (the amount you are getting slowed by) by 25%.
this includes storms, tremors(hivelord too), acid, shrubbery
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>>538366385
>What were they thinking?
outsourced studio, probably didn't wanna make anything too strong and just focus on fun spectacle
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>>538365680
It feels like they held back purposefully with release pineapple for this reason. So now it basically does nothing. Solid concept, needs big buffs to be relevant.
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>>538366157
localization increases the cooldown time of bug breaches by 10%. it does literally nothing else.
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>>538366395
because it's fun, pussy
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>>538365675
Dear God, Imagine just having shit opinions.
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>>538366426
what did they mean by this
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>>538364949
I wouldn't mind them fighting the redditlord IF THEY WOULD JUST BRING SHIT THAT IS GOOD AT FIGHTING THE REDDITLORD. But but no they bring fucking gas mines and ABRLS and flamethrowers and shit. Or they'll waste 7 lives trying to get within range of it with a hellbomb (it digs back into the ground before it goes off).
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>decide to play with friends again
>they want dune bugs
>think theyre gonna get raped on d10 so I put it on d7
>its the same difficulty wise
>roach dies, new roach comes in
>on every map hivelord spawns
>raped by rapture warriors
>only thing missing is the super nest
>crashes left and right if you tab out
>go back to d10 bots
>crashes remain

Also
>boot up game
>window mode
>fullscreen
>window mode
>alt enter to full screen
>10s screen freeze 50% chance of hardcrash
Am I the only one. This game has become nearly unplayable for me
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>>538366395
>she doesn't IMMERSION
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>>538366426
imagine seething over being told you need to adapt your loadout for the mission and terrain
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>>538366426
Why should they be hanged for telling people to stop bringing tons of airstrikes into caves and then crying about it?
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>>538366426
I hate when the fake war feels fake. Dumb idea giving players the illusion of contribution.
Just play out your little narrative and let us fight on the planets.
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>>538366470
I honestly think they meant for this thing to be way more destructive but they fucked something up. The armor is designed to huck this grenade as far away from the user as possible. They probably wanted to to give us handheld airburst grenades but fucked up somehow.
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Has anyone in Arrowhead actually driven a car before?
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>>538366592
Why are you alt tabbing all the time instead of playing the game? you deserve to crash for letting your team down to look at memes on 4chan in the middle of combat
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>>538365680
the pineapple is shit because it is the worst fucking explosive that you can possibly bring. Standard frags or impacts are a thousand times fucking better. The pineapple struggles to kill a small pack of scavengers/voteless. It's just OBJECTIVELY SHIT.

I can only imagine that the developer that implemented it originally just copied the ABRL's warhead wholesale. It would have been a full strength ABRL warhead that you throw. That would have actually been pretty strong if hazardous. I bet that guy set the capacity to 3 because he thought it would be fair. Then Alexus got involved, seethed that it could kill a fleshmob, and reduced the number of bomblets by 98%.
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>>538365332
Mechs are absolute S tier for bugs, but not great against bots. Decent against squids
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>>538366790
minigun mecha counters the entire squid roster
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>That invisible wall around the hive lord before it comes out
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>>538366737
The bomblets just suck aswell, dealing no damage.
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>>538366737
It could also be an item made from pre-release that the retard devs haven't gone in to manually edit to the new power standard.
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>>538366885
The individual bomblets are supposed to suck. It is supposed to be an ABRL warhead, so there should be like 30 fucking bomblets splattering the area. Instead there's like ~4.
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>>538366661
>it turns out the jeet poster was right and Helldivers are just all Indians and thats why they drive like retarded children
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Is there a good planet for credit farming or should i just go wherever?
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>>538367017
Bug hive world has money on the ground easiest farm ever
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>>538367017
somewhere with minimal terrain features. so no lakes, mountains, etc
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>>538361206
ggz tards
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>>538366417
muscle enhancement only works on storms, shrubs, and water. motivational shocks is what reduces the duration of tremors and acid slows, as well as the annoying green spike plants in the caves.
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>>538367017
Desert or moon planets are the best since they have the most poi spawns
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>>538367017
Grand Errant has lots of flat terrain. Bug hive worlds have lots of SCs just sitting around too
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>>538363746
>some faggot got mad it's not shaping up how he wanted
>20 new voters in past 30 minutes
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>>538367270
wrong
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>>538367270
Retard, you're so wrong you might actually work at arrowhead.
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>But when the world needed him most, he disappeared.
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>>538367270
see this post
>>538366075
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>>538367270
It also helps you not get slowed down and fucked when a single jumping bug scratches you, allowing the rest of the swarm to surround you. I always bring it on bug missions, but nowhere else.
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>>538367848
SEAF objectives don't spawn on Shaun because we are dropping on an alien planet, not a Super Earth one.
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>>538363746
STOP THE COUNT
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>>538367270
Muscle enhancement lets you move faster through brush, swamps, snow etc. Motivational shocks reduces the duration of slow effects like acid. On snow planets where there are lots of patches of deep snow and slowing snow storms, muscle enhancement is a fantastic fourth slot booster.
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>>538367505
>>538367825
proof?
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>>538368058
false again.
you dont play the game.
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>>538368109
What part is wrong?
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Should I get the light reinforced armour so I can explosion spam but also be light and nimble?
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>>538368058
I'm not dropping HSO for this shit
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>>538368071
>play bugs without muscle enhancer
>8 deaths
>play bugs with muscle enhancer
>2 deaths
this is proof enough for me.
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>>538366426
>muh hellpods can't dig through dirt
Super Earth is so cucked they can't even manage to pull off something a corporation of drunk dwarves does every day.
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>>538368182
No the resistance stacks with armour value so it's only worthwhile to take the heavy armour if you're expecting to get hit.
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>>538368182
nyes bro, you can farm those super credits in 4 runs if someone has the supercredit hack lobby
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>>538368182
>light armour
Lol, lmao, please don't drain the reinforcements to hard.
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>>538368308
full
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>>538368204
>I WILL CONSTANTLY DIE SO I USE THE BOOSTER THATS DESIGNED FOR NOOBS
>THE BOOSTER THAT PREVENTS MY DEATH? GET THAT WACK SHIT OUT IF HERE
>I CAME HERE TO WASTE RESUPPLIES AND RUN AWAY FROM ENEMIES
>RAAAAAGGHH FOR SUP-
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>>538366790
they're not consistant enough to always be one of the best picks even on ideal factions. They make shit happen though.
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Lmao.
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>>538361206
>>538367221
gg
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>ammo pickups on oshaune cut in half
Do they want us to hate this shit?
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>>538368178
it doesn't work in the knee deep water, only ankle deep. you also forgot to mention that it reduces the strength of enemy applied slows.
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>>538368568
i don't get
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>minor inconvenience that doesn't matter
>massive outcry from casuals complaining about it
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>>538366737
>Then Alexus got involved, seethed that it could kill a fleshmob, and reduced the number of bomblets by 98%.
looking at the details
airburst rocket launcher fires 1 projectile that does 350 damage at AP3, this projectile creates 1 explosion with an inner/outer radius of 3/5 meters for 150 damage at AP3 inner and AP2 outer, this 1 explosion spawns 25 bomblet projectiles that each hit for 150 damage at AP3, then explode with an inner/outer radius of 4/6 meters for 500 damage at AP3 inner and AP2 outer. 1 projectile + 25 bomblets

pineapple throws 1 grenade that explodes with an inner/outer radius of 4/10 meters for 300 damage at AP3 inner and AP2 outer, this explosion spawns 7 bomblet projectiles that each hit for 300 damage at AP3, these bomblets then explode with an inner/outer radius of 1/5 meters for 70 damage at AP3 inner and AP2 outer, and then each bomblet spawn 7 pieces of flak shrapnel that hit for 110 damage at AP3

It looks like they want direct contact with the shrapnel/bomblets to be the primary source of the damage for the pineapple grenade instead of a series of explosions, however, the 7 bomblet projectiles only have AP3 on a direct hit. if the angle of contact is greater than even 25 degrees they have AP0. I think it's this lack of angled penetration that is massively cutting down on the damage that the pineapple grenade can inflict. even basic generic warriors have 1 armour all over, so these bomblets are very unlikely to actually damage them at all.
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how long has this order been active? is it even worth playing on oshaune?
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>>538368771
Yeah that's close enough to what I said.
Anyway if you're taking any booster other than stam, health, hso, ex in, muscle, radar, or extra lives, I'm either not going to notice because they're shit or just assume you're retarded. 25% reduction from motivational shocks is jack shit sadly. If it was 50% it would be well worth taking to bugs but it isn't so it isn't.
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>>538368606
My gut says that they've deliberately overtuned shit on Oshaune to make it analogous to the Federation's failure at Klendathu. The operation is a deliberate forced loss. They deliberately set the target sample value to one that they didn't expect the community to complete. They've deliberately tuned enemy spawns way above what's normal for D10. They've fucked with the seeds to, as best as I can tell from tonight, cause all D10 missions to spawn both dragons and memelords. They're deliberately fucking with our ammo efficiency and kneecapping our best stratagem for defeating the hivelord. /hdg/ lobbies and other coordinated squads are still overcoming the bullshit, but it's filtering pubbies hard. I think this is indeed supposed to feel like the retreat from Klendathu.

The question is what are they going to do after the MO failure? Best case scenario is that this is some narrative hook to introduce the next round of ship upgrades and other goodies to try and keep the xbot kiddies hyped and their attention fixated on new toys. Maybe we'll have a filler MO against one of the other fronts before returning to the gloom with the new weapons, and I'm sure suddenly the opposition won't feel as fierce anymore. However this is sweden, so they're probably due to go on vacation again.
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>>538368771
>it reduces the strength of enemy applied slows.
why can nobody provide any source or proof for this?
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>>538369114
>radar
>extra lives
>hso
Holy shitter incarnate
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>>538369281
sounds like the perfect set up to introduce the APC
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>>538369281
>reddit spacing
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>>538369114
>stamina booster
my nigger is posting from 2024...
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>>538369108
to experience the new content yeah
but they're really making it aids as possible to play there.
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>>538369438
Hey I never said they were mandatory or even good, I just said they could be noticed.
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>>538369114
>talk about muscle enhancer
>BUT MOTIVATIONAL SHOCKS IS BAD
ok retard
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What are you expecting from the patch tomorrow?
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>>538369281
I would accept a forced loss MO if it meant ship upgrades. I need to turn my ship into a super super destroyer. They should also add a sex bar when you fully upgrade so you can get closer with your lean teammates.
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>>538369281

If they use it as an excuse to upgrade your destroyers I wouldn't mind failing the MO.
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>>538369540
Stamina feels obsolete with how many powerfull mobilty options we have now.
And even before that, running a bit longer feels like a really underwhelming power.
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Plebbitors FEAR the forbidden stamina booster.
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WHY'S EAT 700 DEPLOY SPEED SO ASS IT DOESN'T NEED TO BE EXTENDED THE LAUNCHER'S READY TO USE RIGHT OUT OF THE POD
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>>538369281
Well considering they've already figured out that you can get the dark slurpee from 711 it'll probably be some bot or squid MO next to find a way to make use of it. Then back to the gloom to harvest more. Meridia questline 2 I guess.
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>>538369742
only good if you're running heavy armor
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>>538369094
>add horrendous angled penetration to pure explosive charge with absolutely no kinetic component to its damage to suffer angled penetration maluses in the first place
fucking SWIGGERS forgot to copy+paste to THREE TEXT FIELDS
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Are you guys cool with newfags that don't have much in the way of unlocks/skill in your lobbies or should I avoid the links here for now?
Also now that I've almost got all the shit I want from the ODST warbond which one would you recommend saving my super credits for? I was thinking of picking whatever one lets me be a support bitch the most since then I can at least make up for being kind of a shitter.
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Pineapple should give you 6 grenades.
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>>538369837
Okay, i might be retarded, but i thought the television said they managed to make dogfood out of E711.
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>>538369673
Team reloads cause crashes.
Pelican now lands upside down.
Dragonroach flames now match hitbox (but it is twice as big now)
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>>538369780
because they just copy-pasted the eats and gave it a new model, new warhead, and new cooldown timer.

The main thing that I hate about NEATS is its call in pattern. EAT is down down left up right. Those last three are a comfortable rolling of your fingers in a semicircle. I wish that NEAT had a similar pattern like down down left down right.
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>Spewer/Spitter/Titan/Hive lord all have that green goo breath
>All acid damage
But dragons' are fire instead because...?
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>>538369921
only good on illuminate*
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>>538370137
Join lobbies. /hdg/ loves grooming low levels by throwing them into D10s. Your deaths will be... cute!
Also I recommend democratic detonation for your second warbond because the weapons just offer a lot of utility on top of being strong.
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>>538370207
They're fire and acid, not just fire.
>Why?
No idea.
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>>538370137
You're fine. Just try to avoid teamkilling anyone. For the most part a lot of the S-tier shit is actually early unlocks. Stuff like EATS/Strafing run/MG sentry are very viable on a lot of fronts. The default helldiver armor is actually unironically pretty good.
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>>538370207
The dragon's breath is acid too. But it sets the ground on fire.
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>>538370242
Thanks bro. I've managed to mostly survive bot dives at level eight, and I can do... Okay at sevenish on bug missions, but I've only done the homeworld missions for those mostly so it might just be being thrown in the deep end with those stupid fucking dragon things that I hate. I suppose I'll drop in when I have time.
>>538370295
Damn, really? I have most of those unlocked already actually, even if I've mostly been running the autocannon. For some reason that thing hits a button in my brain juuuust right.
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>>538370137
hello fiona
it depends on the host of the lobby.
regulars and 'disc*rd troons' are usually fine with noobies and teach them as they go, but you might find people who will kick you if you die 10 times. it's a mixed bag.
you can also host your own lobby using the guide in the OP.
if you don't want your steam ID in the thread you can remove the numbers after the last forward slash (starting with 7656)
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How's everyone here recording gameplay?
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>>538370138
2/4
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>>538370137
You're so mature for someone your level, haha. You want to play a support build too? That's really sweet of you haha.
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>>538369742
no thanks, that 2% of your HP you take before you realize you're taking damage from dead sprint is literally the difference between life and death when wearing medium armour
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>>538370503
steam rec
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>>538370137
there's only ever been one rule in /hdg/ lobbies - don't be a fucking sperg
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>>538370418
Hiveworld bugs have been rough. They're not as bullshit as bots were on launch but they're just as broken at times, especially with the new diggers. It's definitely the hardest the game has been post 60-day patch. If you can thug it out on D7 hive bugs then D10 probably isn't that much different.
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>>538370437
OMG Mon3tr hiiii. Arknights legendary warbond with Doctor-Themed helldiver suit when? Thanks for for the info, I'll keep the steamID bit in mind.
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>>538370207
>But dragons' are fire instead because...?
it's a fucking dragon
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>>538370418
Autocannon is also top tier. So is the supply backpack. You can make a lot of the early equipment work. Vs Iluminate, the basic machinegun is also really good. A lot of anons would also be willing to drop some of the other support gear for you to play with if you just ask.

In terms of warbonds, the one that you should pickup first is democratic detonation. The crossbow, eruptor, grenade pistol, and thermites are all staples that show up in meta builds. Opinions what you should prioritize will start diverging after that point.
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Yes... You will belly flop up steep hills until you go over it niggers
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>>538370559
And leandivers bottom.
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>>538370138
3/4, free sc will be (you)rs
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>>538370418
>Okay at sevenish on bug missions, but I've only done the homeworld missions for those mostly so it might just be being thrown in the deep end with those stupid fucking dragon things that I hate.
Try fighting bugs on another planet and see how you feel. I unironically think that they're deliberately fucking things over on Oshaune to try to induce a cinematic defeat situation.
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>>538370437
I rather play with a 10 death low level than some tryhard meta policer.
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>>538370525
I don't like the autocannon.
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alright I fucking hate digger bugs
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>>538370138
full
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>>538370552
he FEARS it.
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>>538370559
I may not be a sperg, but I'm violently retarded.
>>538370594
I remember seeing the creek memes from my friends back then so I'd be shocked if they were worse. I definitely want to pull my hair out everytime I fight a dragon when my orbital laser's off cool down at least.
>>538370758
I can see why you think that, and I certainly will when I hop back on.
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>>538370873
>I may not be a sperg, but I'm violently retarded.
the current state of /hdg/ lobbies is that everyone that's left is violently retarded and not ironically
you'll fit right in
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>>538370603
I usually attach an operator with my lobbies, in EU time afternoons. I'm happy to teach newfigs, all you have to do is ask questions.
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>nerfs you because we, at AH, fucking hate your guts
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>>538369742
>inspector
>dead sprint
>warp pack
I must go, democracy needs me.
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>inb4 nerftroons suck AH swede cocks
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>>538371035
why is this a problem
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And there it is
let's fucking gooooo
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>>538366614
>call item through hole in the roof
>lands somewhere completely else making it inaccessible
kill yourself swedegroid
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>>538371109
>brings up troons and cocksucking completely unprovoked
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Steiner chinks will save us by cheating in the rest of the samples.
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this harpoon gun is fucking broken, I'm amazed people are bitching about the coyote
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>>538371243
it's just railgun with a gas puff
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>>538371220
>call in hellbomb backpack through huge open spot in the roof
>destroyer launches it at the roof above the spores lung
That will be 5 minutes of your time, please.
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>>538331865
but gucci IS a subhuman nigger faggot and there's nothing that whiny fuck can do to stop me from saying it

if he wants to post cp like a retard and catch a ban all the better so I don't need to see his dumbass posts anymore. No need to thank me I know I'm based
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I'm actually starting to enjoy the machette on predator strain. If you step correctly you can swing through multiple bugs at once and cut them apart.
Pacifier helps a lot with the stun actually.
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>>538371310
>its just one of the best weapons with the best effect stapled on
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>>538330498
>what would an aliens hellbond even give?
pulse rifle with grenade launcher
mini-turrets (you get to deploy 2-3 before they go into cooldown)
sawed-off pump-action shotgun you get as a secondary weapon

New strain of black skinned acid stalker bugs
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>>538371035
Most people have given up on Oshaune and the MO anyway, right now there's only like 40% of players there. These are squid MO numbers. Especially bad considering its new content.
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>>538370981
Good to hear! Didn't expect to see another arknightsfag around here.
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>>538371035
Why would spore conditions mess with the ammo already laying around everywhere?
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>>538371243
is coyote dogshit or what I haven't tried yet
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>>538371310
Gas puff basically single handedly handles the entire horde of chaff for you. 6 seconds of gas is iirc 150 damage (if that's correct on the time). with 2.5 second reload you just keep shooting it. Indefinite gas grenades let you solo both bugs and illuminate.
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>>538371471
Iunno but it affects supply calldowns too.
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>>538371480
It's the best AR, so it's a bit above mediocre. Nerftroons and discord NPCs hate it.
Still doesn't hold a candle to the explosvie meta weapons
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>>538371480
The Coyote is good, what he's implying is that the Speargun is even better so the people complaining about the Coyote for being broken should be complaining about the Speargun instead.
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>>538371480
Imagine the adjucator but with 40 ammo and no durable damage.
That's the coyote.
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>>538371386
>machette
wait how do you get the machete i dont see it on the superstore
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>>538371314
On spore lung missions, I bring my own hellbomb and AC mech. I call it down outside the entire hive and then make a beeline to the lung. No stopping to fight breaches.
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>>538371480
It's good like B to A tier.
It takes a bit to kill shit, but it does it more efficiently than other weapons. Which makes people fucking seethe because all they see are numbers. The fire does fuck though if you can land your shots.

>>538371619
I'm sorry little one, you're gonna have to wait a while.
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>>538371619
victim of FOMO yet again.
you can buy it in a month when it rotates back
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>deploy into match and call down equipment
>hive lord does slam attack onto me
>respawn, obj is swarmed so call in mech
>dragon roach passes over and blows off one arm immediately
>use other to pepper roach and it flies off
>get out to grab my shit
>roach sprays me with invisible fire
>dive and stim but animation 2slow die anyway
>get respawned across map
>call down solo silo
>from time blue beam appears to hellpod impact a group of burrowers swarms the spot and spawnkills the missile immediately
>call down car and enter cave mega nest to meet up with team
>round corner at slow speed but a single yellow bug flower explodes and flips the car onto its roof
>alt f4 out of my 3 minute long shoah
maybe tomorrow
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>>538364074
I like it better than xbow and eruptor since I wont kill my self if I use it on melee range in Oshaune.
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>>538371471
Corrosion I guess.

>>538371537
That's kind of naff. You still get full ammo with the ship module?
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>>538371532
>it clears chaff
support divers.
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>>538365380
why would you just straight up lie on the internet?
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>>538371651
>>538371676
oh for fuck sake they are so fucking annoying
"no FOMO" by the way, my ass
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>>538371712
You do at least still get full ammo for support weapons if you have the ship module, but primaries and secondaries only get half.
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>>538371035
>50% less ammo
>on a time with alot of people with barely any ship upgrades, much less the one that refills all ammo per box
aw sweet, i can't wait to refill my RR
>gets 1 fucking rocket back
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>Speargun can kill multiple mediums in one shot
>Railgun on overcharge mode can't
>Speargun can hard stagger every enemy in the game except Leviathans and Hive Lord
>Railgun on overcharge mode can't
>Speargun has easier time piercing charger's one shot area from its ass
>Railgun has harder time doing it

Please buff Railgun back to its former glory
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>>538371836
I just roll Blitzer and both EATs because I exclusively join pubs and they are all shit-show ticket-munchers.
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>>538372185
>these individuals make the game
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After diving on Oshaune for almost a week, going back to Predator and Incel corps planet feels like a breeze.

Jesus.
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This game has seriously turned unfun with the latest patch. Why can't these swedemonkeys make a fun game without fucking it up right after?
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>>538369094
>the grenade that explodes eight times deals less than 10% of it's damage by exploding
>a third of the rest of the damage is wasted if the bomblet hits anything tougher than a scavenger
Man, this is a shitty version of the free frag grenade you can get for two medals.
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>>538371360
but I don't want him to catch a ban from 4chan, I want him to catch a party van ban from life...
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Why couldn't the stalwart be a primary? it feels useless as a strat
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You should be able to carry an extra support weapon on your back if you aren't already using a backpack.
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>>538369281
I don't think it spawns more than normal D10 does aside from Hive Lords and Dragon Roaches. If your team keeps up and doesn't let themselves be overwhelmed it feels pretty easy but if you fall behind digger bugs will eat your ass ans you won't have time to shoot which leads more bugs to eat your ass and it loops until game over.
The big reds being less useful and less picked even if they are useful certainly doesn't make it any easier since you can't just throw orbital napalm on breaches to trivialize the game.
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>>538372676
The stalwart exists so you can use the eruptor/accelerator as your primary.
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>you'll need to look for areas in the cave network that have no roof to call down supplies
>oh but also you can't do that and you're stupid if you ever thought that you could do that don't you know that super destroyers can only deploy to open-air locations???
>adjust your tactics lil helldivey
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>>538371035
I was wondering why my supply pack was giving me less ammo.
Still raping hivelords with the reduced ammo and increased eagle timer anyways.
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>>538371457
Just goes to show how stupid these nigger ass worshipping developers are. Fewer and fewer people want to play the frustrating shitshow that is the MO, where you get tossed around by borderline invincible hive lords, shot bouncing CHAFF bugs and instantly killed by multiple strafing flying bile titans.

Maybe make the game fucking fun instead of focusing on FOMO superstore faggotry and power creep warbonds.
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>>538369281
If they wanted to mirror the klendathu failure they would've used their legally distinct Klen Dath II
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>Using the crossbow
>Walking around a cave fighting a breach
>My own drone gets in front of me just right as I shoot
>Blow myself up
I can't even be mad at the retarded swedes for this one, it was hilarious.
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>>538372676
The stalwart is your primary, it's there so you can take a primary like the eruptor and the uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh yeah maybe you're right if they aren't actually going to make niche primaries maybe we dont need the stalwart.
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>>538369281
>Best case scenario is that this is some narrative hook to introduce the next round of ship upgrades and other goodies to try and keep the xbot kiddies hyped and their attention fixated on new toys.

lol, fucking LMAO.

You know its just to prolong the horseshit galaxy war and to keep nickle and diming retards for warbonds.
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>>538372746
>>you'll need to look for areas in the cave network that have no roof to call down supplies
>but it won't land where the beacon is, even if it's unimpeded, and will instead land on the roof on on someone
sick and tired of swedish malicious code
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>>538371310
I think people who think the Harpoon gun is something special haven't used the Railgun in a long while.
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>>538372921
Oh boy, what does the speargun do differently from the railgun I wonder?
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You can cheese hivelords by sitting near cave entranced and just strafing him. He'll keep popping up in the same spot and overshooting her green cum.
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>>538372676
Isn't the catachan AR with a drum mag and a vertical foregrip a stalwart?
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>>538366395
There was a bit during the first year I turned it off because I was getting tired of missing rocket shots on bile titans and slotting hulks (before their faces were nerfed) due to hellpods and/or explosions throwing the camera around. But after installing the HUD remover mod I turned it back on for the cinematic experience.
I do have it set to the lowest setting though, dunno how people play with it cranked up to the maximum.
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>>538372746
>explicity states you should call down in areas with no roof at all
>try to call down through a hole in.. THE ROOF
>AAAAHHH WHY ISNT IT WORKING??THEY WERE SO UNCLEAR!!!
esl reading comprehension strikes again
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>>538372989
>bellyflops you
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>>538373045
wow I had to read that like 3 times before I could even comprehend how retarded you are, good job
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>>538373112
>super slow floppa attack you can just dodge when she sits there sperging out
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>use fire eats a bunch
>it's great, lays a huge patch of fire all over
>suddenly trying fire eats and it doesn't spread the fire out at all
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>>538373215
It most reliably covers a large area if you can bounce it off of some elevated terrain.
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>>538372771
This could have been avoided if they made the cum spewing nigs actually killable and toned down the flying cockroach spawn timers.
Instead you get gangbanged by everything at the same time
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>>538373045
Dumbest person itt
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>>538373121
>I had to read that like 3 times
weird brag but I'll admit i still dont fully understand hindu customs
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>>538373045
>swigger coder has entered the thread
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>>538371035
First scripted loss MO? they've done this shit before and they will do it again, it's just how they operate and shove their retarded "lore" down your throat.
You want to mindlessly shoot bugs? no fuck you here's 20 debuffs because le super earth is le losing
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>>538372771
I think theres some people that know what's fun, and some other niggers just wanna throw unfun bullshit at the players cause they think "the challenge of getting ragdolled and killed instantly a billion times" is the "fun".

It's a lot like people that gush about malevelon creek, and just getting insta sniped the moment you put your head up. Which sucks cause underground bugs felt pretty perfect, and they're really fun to fight even if a bit bullshit with their attacks.
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I swear that the average life expectancy of a pubbie on Oshaune is something like 30 seconds.

>Join a mission in progress
>35 minutes remain
>They're down to 10 reinforcements left
>zero objectives complete
>they're just fucking around outside fighting dragons and the memelord
>call down hellbomb and mech
>march, solo, into the hive and nuke the spore lung.
>fight, solo, to the egg cluster and close it.
>Kill enough terminds underground
>close enough holes
>they eventually at least killed the last egg that was above ground in a different egg cluster.
>They never cracked the armor plating on the memelord
>they burned through the remainder of our reinforcements though.
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>>538373254
The burrowing bugs aside from the charger being able to bounce shots from anything not medium or heavy armor penetrating weapons is also a massive fucking oversight. Most weapons, especially the shit you get as a newer player are fucking LIGHT penetration. Homing attacks from the warriors or the constant bombardment/ sprays from the spewers coupled with their seeming invincibility made a couple of my friends just quit the game for now.
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>>538373414
The only problem that I have with the caves is how hellpods that you drop in positions that have clear LOS to the sky still land in the middle of bumfuck nowhere. The dragons should not be as robust as they are, damaging their wings should ground them, but overall they're manageable. It's the redditlord that is causing pubbies to throw entire missions by racing headfirst into it like a bunch of moths to a flame.
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how's the AMR on bugs, specifically cave bugs? i kind of forgot it existed
can it kill chargers, or does it take way too much ammo to be worth it?
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>>538373045
A hole is the absence of a roof.
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Why are rupture chargers have both stealth AND durability advantages over normal ones?
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>>538373626
Doesn't have enough ammo, and combat ranges are too short.
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>>538373701
Devs can't into balance
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help bugger capture azterra so we have a comfy moon planet.
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>>538373626
AC but worse in everywaybut you can take an emotional support backpack.
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>>538373742
They play on the lowest difficulty and adjust everything using spreadsheets formulas
A swedish dev classic
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I've been gone for months... so do people not like fighting illuminate or what
I thought they were fun and so were the maps was everyone just too shit to hit flying overseers or did new enemies ruin them
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>>538373794
If you bring an AMR you can bring a backpack full of useful things like ammo for actually good weapons, so it's got that over the autocannon.
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>>538373626
Bad against chargers, okay but not great against BTs, bad against dragons. Use it as a CQB rifle by getting used to its non-ADS shooting and it's surprisingly effective though. That said you're still probably better off taking a railgun since it's better against both (One shots chargers in the ass with a full charge overpen into its interior; two shots BTs with two max charged shots)
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>>538373842
It's decent at being a fluffer for your teammateswith good weapons that have backpacks i guess.
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>>538373572
It's a lame as fuck gear check. A clueless pubbie brought a light pen main gun? he will be dead weight and rack in maybe 50 kills by the end if he's lucky.
This whole update feels like a knowledge check and it came out right after the xbox version when you got people that regularly forget to pick a booster or fill up all stratagem slots
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>>538373830
People get filtered hard by the Fleshmob. They steadfastly REFUSE to equip the weapons that can kill them quickly. It's an unarmored blob of HP poitns. Something like a bile titan's HP but without the armor. It has no weakpoints to snipe for a quick easy kill. The most efficient way to kill them is via explosives since they have a number of segments that aren't explosive immune, so one explosion can double/triple/quadruppleddip and damage it multiple times with one blast.
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Where to shoot at dragons with HMG? Normal and flak AC both kinda suck against them because I want an AP4 dps option to also burst down hive lord inners
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>>538373830
Fleshmob spam and leviathans one shotting across the map, the tanky as fuck overseers and on top of all that the like 3 weeks of fighting them on super earth burned out a lot of people
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>>538373971
what's the absolute fastest way to kill a fleshmob, autocannon flak?
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1500 hour played take on new bug enemies:
>burrower warriors
they are fine, you can dodge them in light armor, even as host, weak to fire and plasma, plenty of ways to kill them
>burrower spewers
harmless like regular spewers, extremely weak to fire and plasma. pushover.
>burrower chargers
janky. but they give you a lot more time to kill them because they are basically frozen in place after unburrowing. they die to AT just like regular chargers
>dragonroach
very well designed enemy. I'm enjoying the encounters. same weakpoints as titans but they are faster but lack melee attack and zoning presence. many ways of dealing with them.
>hive lord
definitely overtuned in health.
I like the enemy and the 1-per-mission miniboss style, but it just has way too much health.
atleast 33% health nerf is warranted.
a secondary objective shouldn't take 10min to do.
if it was the primary objective it would be acceptable at that health.
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>>538374060
pin an EAT beacon to its head
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Dude wtf i've been wondering why my missions are such a meme my difficulty for some reason got set to fucking 3
what a waste of time
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>>538373830
They arent very hard, so people think they are boring.
>Harvesters are zero threat and now they are rare because all the spawn budget is spent on fleshmobs and the mortar overseers.
>Fleshmobs are their own problem because they are annoying and give no feedback when you shoot them, very unsatisfying to be the one guy that actually shoots them.
>levis are annoying and have no reasonable counterplay, the best solution is "ignore them"
>mortar overseers cant hit the broad side of a barn, and they don't really chase the players at all like other enemies, another 'can be ignored' enemy
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>>538373971
>>538374060
>>538374093
People that say "fleshmobs filter people" have no concept of contextual thinking.
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>>538373830
Squid fatigue form the defense of Super Earth, add to the fact that Leviathans are a dogshit enemy and that fleshmobs still clip through buildings and people will naturally avoid them like the plague
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>>538370138
good farms, silo missile game was funny
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>tactical stick modifier
>every stratagem in your loadout is replaced with a stick
>the stick is a melee support weapon with level 1 pen that deals 10 damage and breaks after hitting something once, has a cooldown of 120s
>after calling down 12 sticks, you get a golden stick
>the golden stick is a melee support weapon with level 10 pen that deals 50 000 durable damage and breaks after hitting something once, has a cooldown of 1200s
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>>538373626
1 shot rapture warrior and spewer
4 shot rapture charger
13 shot dragon roach
strong vs hive lord because 450 ballistic damage per shot.
pretty good
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>>538374013
>The galactic whore awaits your heroic impregnation
>You're queer, cum, and let us join the fight
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>>538374158
It's true thoughever.
Just let us shoot out its legs you stupid cunt(s).
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https://www.reddit.com/r/LowSodiumHellDivers/comments/1naqap6/ohsaune_invasion_perfectly_highlights_incompetent/
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>>538373112
Also, the cave top will protect you if you just run back near the entrance and he cant damage with you a bellyflop. You can just cheese it with thermites, ultimatums, eagle strafing and sit theere while she cant do anything.
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/hdg/ - r*ddit general
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>>538373971
>They steadfastly REFUSE to equip the weapons that can kill them quickly
Youre an example of someone who simply doesnt understand why people dont actually like fleshmobs. Or you do but refuse to acknowledge it and insist that everyone else is wrong

You should apply to work at Arrowhead.
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>>538368308
reminder that malicious swedish code really does exist
ggs
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>>538374248
oh my SCIENCE is that hecking in-character posting? so chongus wholesome diver! super earth says TRANS RIGHTS ARE HUMAN RIGHTS!
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>>538374248
I know it's fun to hate on reddit but r/lowsodium is truly low hanging fruit. It's a sub that decided the main wasn't sucking enough fermented Swedish cock before going into a surstromming-induced sycophantic fervor
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>>538374138
That usually happens when quickplay bugs out and when you let run for too long searching for a game, stopping it and restarting it fixes it
That said you should've realized by the first mission, either by the the end stats or by the fact you only had two secondary objectives
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>>538373254
I think both Hive Lords and Dragons are MOSTLY fine, aside from absurd desync on their spit. They're fun and new, and fighting them is engaging enough that I don't mind some aspects of them being overtuned for dramatic effect.
What's not fun is the digger bugs. It's just a constant stream of little shits that hit like a truck and not only are invincible unless you bring specific guns, they tend to be effectively invisible in caves, high particle effect bulshit situations and on ground fucked up by the Hive Lord.
I don't understand Swigger thinking here - you get caves with limited movement options, encouraging fighting the enemy in chokepoints and they basically add the equivalent of noclipping Fleshmobs but as an intentional game mechanic this time, and not only give the ability to Hive Guard equivalents except they're actually numerous, aggresive and high damage but also Bile Spewers - the MOST UNFUN Terminid enemy bar none - and souped-up Chargers.
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>>538374451
You sound like a miserable cunt.
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*collects your ammo tax*
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Does anyone have the helldiver death count for oshaune pre-update to now? I want to know how much the number has gone up exactly
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>>538373701
faster
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>>538374635
2 crossbow bolts because I can't aim for shit, that's all you're getting out of me.
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>>538374384
You woke it up from its nap, princess is normally a very calm bug.
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>>538374586
You sound like you eat dick cheese
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You know what would be kinda neat? You know how in payday 2 if you fucked up really badly on a heist your getaway van could crash and you'd need a new escape? Imagine pelican could crash and you have to make a mad dash for a new exfil. Could maybe balance it out with a faster cooldown for strategems since it's an emergency or a fuckton more warbond points.
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>>538374586
Go back
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LEZAnqd9CUY
Imagine going up on stage to tell everyone you made 4 units.
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>>538374639
https://helldiverscompanion.com/#hellpad/planets/oshaune
i don't think we ever went to it before, but we're currently on 204.3M deaths
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>>538374784
mmm nyo
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>>538374778
>>538374829
Youre on the verge of having a psychotic break because someone is fun-posting on the internet. Touch grass.
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>>538373626
works just as well as on regular bugs
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>>538374784
>get in the pelican
>go take a shit
>come back to a game over screen
nah it's a terrible idea
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>>538374832
lol he's fat
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>>538374784
it doesn't really work in lore since we're highly expendable and not all missions have a high value item that they want
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>>538374013
The HMG does 150 standard damage and 35 durable damage. Looks like it's the legs because it's 0% durable. AP matches at 4 so it'll do 65% total damage each shot, 100% of which is going to the main HP pool. 6500 main HP with 97 damage per shot which is 68 rounds assuming you're firing point blank (you're not). Probably a full drum into the legs to kill best case scenario. Take an EAT instead and blow its head schmoove off.
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>>538374906
Strange projection there, bud.
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>>538374973
Im not the one screaming about trannies in caps luck, pal.
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>>538374784
>letting the pelican get too damaged at exfill either by your own doing or enemy attacks up the chances of an additional escape level
THAT'S SHOW THOSE STALLING NIGGERS GET IN THE SHIP DIPSHIT I DON'T WANT THE SEAF ARTILLERY TO WADDLE ITS SHELL ALL THE WAY TO US BEFORE GETTING OUT
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>>538374851
We have zagon, and omicron have stats recorded from before the gloom so that’s why I was curious. Wish I looked at it when the update went live and we couldn’t access the planet yet
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>>538374998
I am not that anon. I am simply telling you to go back.
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>>538375054
>>538374906
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>>538374970
>wings not fatal
So this thing's just an infinitely more lethal bile titan...
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>>538374970
>wings aren't fatal
that explains why they're so fucking gay
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>>538375101
NTA, but go back.
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>>538374970
>Literally copy pasted BT stats without further thoughts added to it
Nuke Sweden
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this MO is doomed
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cool I love how you have to be like 100 meters away from a cave entrance to deploy a strategem otherwise is deploys it randomly and likely puts it on the roof or some other unreachable rock
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>>538375230
The MO was always doomed but for some reason AH wanted to fuck over newdivers specifically by nerfing ammo pickups. Truly based.
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I want a necklace swedish video game developer ears
those useless fucking shits
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imagine having trouble with dragons
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>>538375182
>Funposting is a reddit thing
>>538374906
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I want cross-faction fights now...
I want to see dragons and stingrays dogfight...
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>>538375358
>All xbox players and halo warbond buyers get shafted
It's like they hate xbox players
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>>538374384
>game has literal jump scares
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>>538375395
Wait.... say that again.
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>>538375395
I'm trying to right now but can't... If only I can imagine... dragons
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>>538375261
>find a open part of the caves
>called in a fresh weapon since supplies landed on the roof
>the pod veers off course to land on the one tall rock in in the entire open plain you can't reach
And guess what happened when i tried shooting it out?
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>>538375452
IMAGINE having trouble with DRAGONS
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>>538375261
I've had this problem even in the open. Sometimes shit gets dropped in the opposite direction where I threw the pokeball when I'm in the open.
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>>538375558
I'll shove a dragon up your ass
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>>538375695
hot
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>>538375419
A glazepost peppered with timid criticism wrapped up with in-lore patriotism about an impossible MO isn't exactly what I'd call fun.
Again, if your values align more closely with r/lowsodiumdivers, I ask you to go back.
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So... why are outside sand dunes not valid stratagem surface? It doesn't bounce or anything just phases through and disappear
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>>538374461
they deserve it and more
>t.witnessed the precursor to lowsodium halo
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>>538374586
You sound like a tourist. Fuck off.
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>>538375713
>Getting this mad that someone isnt taking the video game as seriously as you
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>>538374970
>>538375224
yeah wow that's fucking retarded
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>>538375764
You have no idea what that word means.
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>>538375772
Who is getting mad? Strange projection.
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>>538375671
I've never had this shit happen before recently. Every single fucking time I come back to play this games there's as much new content as there is new bugs, and most of the content is of course behind supergoy credits so it's mostly just new bugs.
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Arrowhead has gone to far to appease the chuds, we need to demand trans representation to bring the balance back, starting with trans mog
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>>538375772
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Been gone for a month and just came back. Dropped twice onto oshaune on super helldive. Both times I was surrounded by 30-40's which did not bode well. I knew they were going to be tough but jesus fucking christ. I was diving more then walking with 3 chargers and multiple digger warriors and the fucking roach strafing me. Not to mention the fucking worm which took us nearly 15 minutes to kill.

Is it really just that hard or was I dragging anchors. Even rusty I was top kills and least deaths both runs. Not by a small margin either.
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>>538375745
too close to the operation borders
its fucking stupid i know but swiggers gonna swigger
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>superstore refreshed
>still no machete
fuck you arrowhead
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>>538376273
you're gonna have to wait at least 4 more store rotations before it comes back
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>>538376180
it's the hardest helldivers 2 has been in a long time. worm isn't bad as long as you know how to fight it but it's still very time consuming
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>>538376180
>reddit spacing
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>>538374970
wtf does shooting the wings do nothing
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>>538376180
you were probably dragging tungsten anchors.
pubs are completely lost.
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>>538376273
I like machete but it's not like the other melee weapons where it can deal with a blob of voteless. It hits hard, staggers a lot, and has slow recovery. Unironically this means you can hack a stalker or a few devastators/berserkers to death. If that's exactly what you were looking for in a melee weapon, my condolences.
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>>538376373
Theoretically with an optimal team all sporting some kind of AT weapon. How long should it take?

>>538376427
>reddit "spacing"
Imagine being this much of a schizo.
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>>538374248
>it makes sense if we make the game shit and miserable because this is how the military works
If this is supposed to mirror how the military work, can the low sodium faggots or the swedes send me a paycheck every month and provide me a VA disability check?
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>>538364949
>AH puts in slow moving sky centipedes that are dependent on LOS to shoot you
Leviathan weren't a problem in megacity because there were so much skyscrapper that block LOS. It become infuriating in regular map when they basically hitscan you from accross the map.
> and are extremely easy to kill with orbital gatling barrages or eagle strafing runs
If you are lucky enough to be in the right angle and you aren't ragdoll by ten fleshmob the nanosecond you stop to launch your stratagem despite checking your area to see if it was cleared. Which don't really happen at D8 and above because there is 3 fleshmob every squarefoot of the map.

>AH brings in a fast, highly aggressive and absolutely fucking relentless skyscraper monster that flops its big meaty mass around, terraforms the map, eats your calldowns and constantly saturates the map with instant death green cum
>average pubbie refuses to even attempt to disengage from it
>average pub lobby experience is helplessly watching 3 retards run around in the open at the objective the hive lord is currently cumming on until reinforcements are depleted
I actually agree with that statement, especially know that they are in all mission know alongside dragonspam. Finishing truck mission is almost a miracle without the hivelord smashing it to the ground.
I think it should be a main objective not a secondary one. That would resolve the current issue.
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Uhhh did they finally added the siege ready superstore permanently?
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the epoch SUCKS
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>>538376180
>guy who has experience with the game performs better than fresh off the boat xtoddlers
come on man
the worm time checks out for a miss match of low level randos, the fact you managed to kill it with them is impressive
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>>538374970
>Hitting wings does nothing
Fucker still flying around with literally no wings left is so retarded
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>>538376505
>more reddit spacing
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>>538376427
>what is basic sentence structure
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>>538363746
here you go objectively best tier list here
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>>538376498
>If that's exactly what you were looking for in a melee weapon, my condolences
all i wanted is to larp as a space swordsman......
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>>538376180
>Both times I was surrounded by 30-40's which did not bode well.
it already doesn't bode well at D8 or even D7 on Oshaune.
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>>538374970
>could've had cool mechanic of shooting off the wings and having it scuttle about on the ground
>nah senpai just let it magically fly around with blown up wings lol
Lazy and incompetent.
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>>538376596
Cry

About

It
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>>538374970
Clipping the wings so make it drop out of the sky and be a slower smaller bile titan. There should be some rewards for shaving them off.
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>>538376505
you want strafing runs and MGs or a minigun mecha.
you want the highest DPS ap3 you can get.
MMG,AMR, mecha minigun are the top 3 picks for when the belly plate breaks.
for breaking it you can use like 10 strafing runs or a bunch of EATs or teamloaded RR/SPEAR
I solod it with strafing + AMR, took 20 min.
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Never forget, the 6 million super citizens lost
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>>538376505
the fastest recorded yet was 2 mins but thats with a team fully locked in on killing it, 10 mins with a team of randos is more than respectable
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>>538376596
right i wont capitalize anything and make sure all my replies are just next to each other in a shitty mess of a post because only REAL oldfags type like a 13 year old >>538376687 lord knows he will >>538376560
i just want a medium siege ready
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Lower the difficulty.
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WHERE'S MY MINIGUN AT, ARROWHEAD??? WHERE IS IT??? GIVE ME MY FULL 1000 BULLET MINIGUN TO WASTE ON BUGZ
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>>538376863
On your mech.
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Heading out for mackdoenaos, /hdg/
Want me to get (You) anything?
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>>538376863
I think they literally cannot code it to be a support weapon with back pack that reloads like the anti-armor weapons. Best we can hope for is they just make it a flash EAT with no reload and a respectable cooldown.
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>>538376902
WHO CARES ABOUT MECHS NOBODY USES THEM
I WANT MY MINIGUN ON MY HELLDIVER
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>>538376978
no fuck off
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>nooooo it's not fair I shouldn't have to bring the right tools for the job
cave bugs are going to get nerfed back down to being the babymode faction again just you watch
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>These two weapons are only two warbonds apart
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Realistically, how's a pubbie who doesn't have any premium bonds unlocked and whose only frame of reference for the game is his own gameplay supposed to figure out that the only way to blow up the titan hole in the caves is to either bring a SPEAR or hope that the titan bugs out and collapses it while exiting
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>>538376997
Why don't they vibe code a solution like... the minigun itself carries all the bullets but won't fire without the backpack on?
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>>538376605
Fire turret got buffed
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>>538377091
turn down your fuarking brightness
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>>538376997
They should definitely make expendable miniguns without the stupid backpack then
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>>538377129
Again I literally don't think they can. Gotta remember they are working with a nearly decade defunct engine.
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>>538376997
>disposable
>bullet hose
Fuck it close enough WELCOME BACK MGX42
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>>538377083
Good, cave bugs should get a nerf
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>>538377278
How do I downvote you here, sister...
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>>538377083
>enemies are going to have proper hitbox abloobloo

I really hope no one actually thinks like this and this fags just baiting.
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>I will add caves that removes your ability to use stratagems
>And I will make every resupply give 50% less ammo
Oh, okay, I wonder what's the solution of this problem...
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>>538377091
A fellow apple store gun appreciator.
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>>538376605
250 hours played
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>>538377376
Shoot better?
Seriously who the fuck runs out of ammo regularly?
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>>538375395
>imagine (...) dragons
imagine dragon deez nuts across your face
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>>538377376
>ammo bag
>speargun
>mg turret
>gas strike
holy fucking based
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>>538377350
The hype has died down, most people now have rupture bug fatigue, dragonroach fatigue and hivelord fatigue.
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>>538366592
Only time I crashed is when I didn't play with hdg but ya that fullscreen bug is annoying
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>>538377542
thanks for your input, Juan.
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>>538377350
its monday
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>>538377601
No problem.
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>>538377492
It's for stims and grenades you fucking moron
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>>538377771
God why didn't you make this post quints, it would have been so fucking funny.
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>>538334751
the guns that lacks demo force.....
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>in bug caves you can find abandoned mechs that have battle damage like missing an arm of half the ammo remaining in the other two weapons like finding a random weapon on the map
mite b coo would really enhance the "you're not the first ones to die in here and you likely are going to add to the pile of pick ups and ammo for the next squad"
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>>538376997
Make a laser minigun with a quick overheat
The backpack comes with a few coolant cells that allows you to instantly dissipate the heat, allowing for sustained fire insteado of short bursts only
Voila
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>>538377807
newfag-kun...
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yes... every other mission fucking breaks and crashes and helldivers needs a 60 day patch part 2
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>>538368816
We will be retreating from bug hell planet.
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>>538377096
I simply don't have respect for console nigger retards who can't look things up about the games that he plays
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>>538377914
Stalwart?
MMG?
HMG?
AMR?
Lasercannon?
Arcthrower?
Flamethrower?
Railgun?
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Yes... this patch broke my PC
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>>538374586
they don't like it when you oppose their sardonic guise
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>>538376795
You know the scene in starship troopers where the invasion of klendathu fails and the federation retreats? That's what's happening.
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>>538377091
yes pacifier sucks
It was also outsourced to another studio out of alexus's control
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>>538376120
Every time you feel the wind in your hair, rapture at the smell of flowers, or bask in the warmth of the sun, you do a trans mog.
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>>538378206
>missions in game go smooth
>narrative is it's going awfull
This shit is so forced.
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I want to play the game again but AH is just reverting back to pre 60 days of nothing but worse.
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>>538330349
Next legendary warbond will probably be Star Wars
>b-but that's a dead&done&shitty normiecringe IP?!???
Exactly like Halo then.
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>>538378047
hes talking to god, retard-kun
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>>538378418
newfag-kun...
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>>538374060
Flak is good. ABRL and the new NEAT is better
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>>538378486
I forgot what board this is.. erm
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>make warbond armor specifically designed towards helping you shrug off the often unavoidable damage from new enemies
>new support weapon with high damage, high mobility, no backpack and gas effect that is especially good in the cave corridors
idk my fellow supergoys, this feels suspiciously more jewish than usual
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>>538378338
>missions in game go smooth
Except they don't ?
There almost 2x more casualties on Oshaune than on Super Earth
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>>538378596
WASP is king.
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>>538378287
>guns whole gimmick is that it's less lethal
>it isn't as lethal as other guns
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>>538378338
Stop queing with hdg and queue up within some pubbies. Let me know how smoothly the mission goes when they spend 15 reinforcements in 5 minutes trying to flamethrower the hivelord to death.
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>>538378637
I get get everything for free anyways so I don't really care.
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>>538376562
i get people's grievances with it as i've been maining it for a little over a couple weeks now but honestly I like that it can do both chaff and heavy clear with a little setup.
yes, you can blow up and lose your weapon
yes, a single scavenger can aim-punch you last second and cause you to kill yourself or a teammate
yes, sometimes the projectible will literally go through the enemy
BUT, it feels cool as fuck to hit two max charges on most heavies and put it down.
3 on the dragon and there's a fun little game of learning the projectile travel speed where you can snipe it when it tries to fly away or in a circle
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>>538377096
He's not supposed to figure it out because the high difficulties are intended for experienced players only, not Jimmy Jumper who's been playing for a week.
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>>538378637
>my premium DLC content is.. le good?
legit battered housewife syndrome
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>>538378653
>Xbox newfags inflate death toll
Or the stats are just swedish lies to begin with. Either way it feels forced.
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There are no Xbox players in the thread.
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>>538375224
>is a bile titan + wings
>has bile titan stats
>WTF WHY IS THIS SO RETARDED??
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>>538378876
>Xbox newfags inflate death toll
Well that's also the narrative in the Starship troopers movie, high command just carelessly dropping thousands of eager fresh recruits straight into an ennemy hiveworld where they get slaughtered
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They call me 007
0 enemies killed
0 deaths
7 objectives completed
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>>538378797
I wouldn't say it before but they have seriously made the new digger/cave brood simply too much for bright eyes to handle. They should enforce level restrictions for higher helldives, unless a higher player is willing to be their dive daddy and bring them along. 70 for super sounds about right. Let them cut their teeth and play in the sand on a difficulty they can actually handle and learn from.
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>>538378716
It's also supposed to pacify things but it doesn't really do that.
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>>538378750
Just give it some fucking demo force
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>solo silo is bugged to show multiple kills
>Another warbond in a row just magically shows too many kills for it's gear

This is too funny, shame they didn't do it with the pineapple grenade. People would be gushing about how good it was then.
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>>538378810
it's good to be good, but not so specifically geared towards countering new content that's just jewish
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>>538378750
It took me 3 magazines to take down a bile titan. So I threw it in the trash.
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>quickplay nuke nursery, land near the host
>he's on his way to grab the specimen case
>fair enough, don't think too much of it
>more people join, we all head to one of the objectives
>wait for host
>host nowhere to be seen
>[host] has discovered STALKER NEST
>wut
>check map
>host is on the other side of the map
>ok he's retarded but i guess he wants to drop it off at extract
>tune him out again, we're clearing the nursery
>Stalker nest cleared
>ok he's not that bad
>nursery blown, we move to the next one nearby and the host is...
>wait, why the fuck is he going to the mega nest even further away and WHY THE FUCK IS HE STILL CARRYING THE SPECIMEN CASE?!
>before i can ask he dies, leaves the game
>fast forward a bit and we see why, he fell on one of the death holes with the specimen case
this was a level 150 btw, you really can not make this shit up if you tried
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>>538379126
The problem is that here there are plenty experienced players whose effort gets buried under Xbox fag corpses.
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>>538379095
You know why birds have hollow bones and rhinos do not? Because you have to be lighter to obtain flight. A titan that flies should clearly be weaker. Trading durability for mobility. Or like others have said. Actually make it crash to the ground and be a shittier bile titan if you can strip the wings.
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>>538379151
fuck you're supposed to stay behind and die with the rest of your team
fucking revive me
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>>538379294
Nuh-uh, rules for thee but not for me, realism should only apply if it fucks you up.
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>>538379264
you still want to aim for headshots/weakpoints
i think it's either 2 or 3 to BT head
I basically only used EATs for AT before epoch and was mostly a chaff support MG user so this just felt like similar ground. I like it a hell of a lot more than the railgun.
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>>538378750
I like it as a replacement for my AC but it can kill warstriders better.
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>>538334279
Wbo knows? Yoi think they did the math before dropping the MO or just slapped some arbitrary numbers?
Either way they are bad at predicting how many players will return, how many players will participate in MO, how many players will actually do the mission instead of playing with a worm, and how many players will actually read the MO objective.
I think it's normal for first MO to fail after the update, happens all the time, it either fails or grts cleared super fast (sometime they cheat to prevent this though)
This time they definitely overestimated bugfuckers ability to read
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>>538379283
There's part of the cave maps that have death holes that bug out and you can't see them
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I liked oshaune so much more when I was playing on medium and thinking it was an oddly easy super helldive
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>>538379390
rocket devastators and gunships were nerfed to have limited rocket ammo because it was more realistic
gunship engine durability was nerfed to be lower because it was more realistic
enemies shooting through walls was fixed because that was unrealistic
levithan cannons were made independently destructible because that is more realistic
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>>538378750
I've been playing around with it a lot and I can safely say it's really good on bots against hordes of devastators. It's not an S rank weapon, it's okay against heavies, it's okay for horde clear, but it is good for massed medium targets. Bugs and illuminate don't have the same prevalence of this kind of enemy and the enemies like devastators that they have don't often give the opportunity to use a charge weapon like bots do. Yes it's outclassed by other weapons in every use case but it's still cool and fun. If you care about effectiveness it's not the gun for you.
Ps: the charge window is 2.5 seconds to full charge and 3 seconds to instant death even with heavy explosion resistance armor and health booster. I just listen for the beep and release then which is good enough.
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>sandy planet
>bugs
this is the correct way of playing Helldivers 2
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Why do stalkers always try to lick us? After we divers have been running in full kit around a desert planet, filling our boots with sweat and musk?
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>>538379240
Is the point of warbonds not to add more options to your kit? Plenty of the stuff in prior bonds work great against the new enemies (xbow, purifier, epoch, etc).
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>>538379637
Every weapon that comes out should be a side grade or implement a new feature.
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>>538379465
oh i know, he didn't fell on the POI one, he fell on the ones with a bridge connecting it, except the bridge was still intact so idk what happened, i was mainly complaining about him carrying the case practicaly all mission for no reason
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>>538379589
you can also shave like half a second of it's reload time and skip the last part where he primes it. as soon as he drops the new cylinder it's ready to go despite the animation not being complete
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>>538379637
It would't be that bad if they release free weapons sometimes as well. Right now everything new is purely warbond related, and the base weapon options are ridiculously limited.
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>>538379294
It is realistic for the anti tank plasma cannon to have no demo force, for the flying bile titan to just be a strict upgrade that can move at Mach 2, and for the hive lord's fleshy weak points to be 100% immune to explosive damage
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>>538379893
>hive lord's fleshy weak points to be 100% immune to explosive damage
HUH?
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>>538379893
This. Realism is meant to inconvenience and stymy the player with a ready-made excuse the developers can use.
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Nerf rupture bugs
Nerf dragon roaches
Nerf hivelord or make it have it's own mission
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>play on d5
>waoo this game is fun I'm having the time of my life
>play on d10
>fuck niggers fuck sweden bullshit game how is this allowed nerf nerf nerf nerf kill all developers don't tell me to git gud I am entitled to win all missions and 0 deaths I am the GOD GAMER the BEST helldivers 2 player in the universe its all me baybee if the game is not tailored directly to my tastes its GARBAGE AND I HAVE TO TELL EVERYONE THAT THE GAME IS SHIT BECAUSE I GOT FILTERED BY DIFFICULTY
>you hear that niggers???
>GAME BAD BECAUSE I CANT DODGE THE ENEMY THAT ATTACKS IN A STRAIGHT LINE
what compels someone to be like this?
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>>538379726
I've seen stalkers get stuck with pathfinding and later get unstuck. Maybe one got unstuck and kicked him off of the ledge
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What prompts the hive lord to target someone after it digs down. Is it a threat assessment? Based on the damage you've dealt? Basically curious if that chad chair could be safely deployed outside it's range to just rain hell on it's tummy.
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>>538379995
imagine if this fucking retards just dropped an "eliminate hivelord" mission on a smaller map with high sample density like the old evac civvies missions
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>>538379995
lower the difficulty
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>>538379548
Hmmm, I wonder what these changes have in common, I can't put my finger on it...
Oh right, I remember now, I'm such a silly goose, they were made because of the backlash, not out of the kindless of their hearts!
And it happens again, as if it was done out of pmite!
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>>538379995
dragons need to have the hitbox fit the visuals of the attack, right now they miss you by a mile and hit anyway
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>>538379956
Did I stutter? The inner flesh underneath the armored plates, and the inner mouth, have 100% resistance to explosive damage.
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>>538370873
as long as you don't use chinese hacks fine but do avoid the discord trannies this general is full of them
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>>538380086
seems to be completely random honestly
I've had it completely ignore me when my teammates were ignoring it, but I was fighting it.
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>>538379995
Literally stop play d10s if you can't handle them. You aren't entitled to getting carried.
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>>538379995
i disagree with this regurgitated opinion it should have it's own mission. I think it's good that it's an optional side objective that can either be contended with or treated as an environmental threat, making it it's own mission type would make it just as boring as eradicate or asset defense.
The reason why the worm works as it is is because it applies pressure where other objectives need to be completed straining the time limit if you don't remain focused or try to kill every bug.
I get maybe some of the nuance of balancing it's hp pool or if people are still struggling with it killing the oil tanker, some values could be tweaked but I really hope AH doesn't listen to the feedback on this one.
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>>538380164
skill issue
>>538380191
it doesn't. that's not how explosive damage works you dumb fucking 200 hour splayed spreadsheetmonkey wikinigger.
the explosive damage deals damage directly to MAIN. which has a 25% exDR
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>>538380137
no. lower diffs have not enough enemies
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>>538380191
If anything it should have weakness to explosive damage
what the fuck are these retards smoking
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>>538380278
maybe people just want a mission to kill the worm because they want to just fight the worm instead of being incentivized to run away from it until it decides it should camp extract cus it's lonely
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>>538380153
they are still examples of realism that benefits the player
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>>538380330
then stop complaining you dumb retard.
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>>538380278
AH only listens to feedback from r/lowsodium. so chances are the Coyote gets nerfed while all enemies get buffed
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>>538379637
I have half the fucking warbonds but I don't have anything that resists fire, and nothing at all resists acid, and yet we have 2 new enemies spewing acid and one spewing fire and the hit boxes are so fucked that you just have to eat it half the time
They shouldn't add new enemies with retarded attacks and paid armors to negate it if they don't want to be called kikes about it.
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>>538363746
I was surprised at my own ranking, none of the stratagems ended up in D
Guess swiggers really did a good job balancing shit
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>>538379995
Killing the Hive Lord would be a perfect opportunity for them to add trophies to the super destroyer
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>>538380290
yes can can out-skill poor design
but that does not excuse the poor design
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>What you expect when dragon roach is being staggered
Its unable to attack or its attack is highly ineffective since its stuttering all over the place
>What actually happens
Its fire breath attack becomes even more dangerous and starts melting everything in a frontal cone with invisible fire particles
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>>538380380
if it does get one it should be a difficulty 7 equivalent to the early introduction of other enemies like how the charger or the BT have their own kill missions. At least in my opinion on D10 it should remain as is.
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>>538380278
The oil tanker mission should be an exception. It was just shouldn't spawn on that mission type.

Aside from that, the problem with the lord is that he's terrible for build diversity. The team is really punished if anyone is dead weight with some shitty meme "support" build.
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>>538380335
it's not immune to explosives you fucking monkeys.
hellbombs still deal damage to it
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>>538380137
Hive lords and dragons spawn enmasse on difficulty 5
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>>538380040
are you done or are you revving up the CP driveby next
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>>538380410
no. I will complain about everything there is to complain about. And you can't stop me.
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>>538363885
>non-faction tier list
>this confuses the v-tard
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Why do all the new enemies have dark souls 2 tier hitboxes?
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>>538380489
>I cannot dodge the straight line attack because its 3 pixels wider than the green area
listen to what you're saying you fucking zoomernigger.
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>>538380507
I think given the novelty of the hive world and the new playerbase it's a slamdunk to have it launch as a singular mission just to showcase the fucker
they can still have it in other missions, I don't give a shit, but people want to be able to fight it so make a mission that tells you to fight it.
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What do squids and bots get as their hive lord equivalent?
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>>538380617
who said I can not? I can dodge it. I just want the game to function like it's supposed to. Read >>538380489 over and over again until you understand it.
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>>538380573
lower to 3 then.
you're worse than I thought
>>538380612
because you suck. lower the difficulty
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>>538380612
It's honestly impressive in retrospect they didn't fuck up hit boxes until now
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>>538380639
Would also let pubbies understand how to fight the hive lord and what stratagems are effective against it
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>>538380668
cyborgs had the siege mech, basically a giant tank
squids had some kind of giant floating robot eyeball
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Wtf how do I do the fremen sand walk to avoid the hive lord, let me guess, I need to pay for that too?
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Hive lords and roaches were good additions to the game if only because their existence prevents solofags from crafting an effective kit to survive everything. Add the cave elements and you simply cannot prepare for everything and constantly feel undergeared if you're not with teammates.
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gravity gun when
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>>538379995
>Nerf rupture bugs
Remove the old hunter AI that magnetizes them to hit you, even if you jump pack away, from them and the host penalty
>Nerf dragon roaches
Either give it give its wings lethal damage if destroyed or force them to land and behave like a bile titan
>Nerf hivelord
Fix the vomit being inconsistent, him turning on a dime for the stomp attack and make the armored plates more visibly damaged
>or make it have it's own mission
But this would be preferable, if they must keep him in the main missions then make a weaker and/or damaged version of the current one (with armor plates damaged or even cracked) and have the Democracy officer shout how its coming from another mission area
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>>538380705
>make a complain post
>I SWARE I CAN DODGE IT IM NOT DYING TO IT IM NOT BAD NOT WHAT I SAID I NEVER DIED TO IT IN MY LIFE IM REALLY GOOD
>it's such a bullshit attack undodgeable garbage that needs nerfing
the only person that needs to reread what they typed is you
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>>538379719
>>538379782
I agree with you but if you are comparing it to the (very limited amount of) base items there is only so much design space for 'liberator but faster', power creep is inevitable
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>>538380846
All the ARs in this game are mediocre until the coyote came out
>>538380805
I mean you just bring a mech and the cave bugs can barely do anything to you
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>>538380823
skill issue
skill issue
skill issue
arguably correct
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>>538380823
It would be nice if there were just different sized Hivelords. Make random ones who show up in the mission be smaller with like 80kHP vs the gigachad 150k+ of a solo mission.
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How the fuck did they expect us to complete this MO?
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>>538380839
Why are you so desperate to defend something that's clearly not working like it's supposed to? Does AH pay you to do this? Are you Swedish?
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Are there any ways to holster your weapons during normal gameplay that still work? The methods I knew of seem to have been patched.
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what does hive lord flesh taste like
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the game is in such a good state right now super helldive is hard again
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I wish I could get bitten by a swedish game developer and become retarded so I wouldn't have to care about anything anymore
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>>538380978
They didn't.
Railroaded failure.
Is this your first MO, newfriend?
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>>538380978
We're supposed to lose this one. It's the failed invasion of klendathu
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>>538381008
only on that one planet, but yeah it's nice
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>>538380991
stop taking the bait retard, god damn wake the fuck up and realize when something is too stupid to be genuine it isn't
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>>538381006
Salmon
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>>538380914
>I mean you just bring a mech and the cave bugs can barely do anything to you

>pop up bigger bug pops up underneath you, instantly destroys your mech
>bugs leap at you and phase through you, do 4-6 hits onto your back before you can even turn around or walk far enough away to not take damage
>spewer pops its head out and sprays you with 3 balls, instantly destroying your arm
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>>538380914
Mechs are easily destroyed and run out of ammo fast with the sheer amount of bugs that spawn. And once it is destroyed you're down a strategem for more than 6 minutes.
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>>538380617
>3 pixels

Nigger I have been killed in one frame from fire off that is so far away from me it's off my screen.
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>>538381138
I regularly clear the entire cave system myself with one mech
skill issue
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>>538380978
they didn't, quite the contrary, they're renacting the fall of Klendathu from starship troopers and god forbid you if you deviate from the script
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>>538381128
Emancipator has no issues except you'll run out of ammo at some point.
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>>538381109
but im hungry
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>>538365376
There is no acid resistance, bile damage is countered by explosive resistsnce (fortified)
I just bring a deployable shield relay to dab on worms but uptime is not great, would be better if another player brought one
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I think I need to add skill issue to my filters too, it's another sign of retards and trolls
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>>538380719
>lower to 3 then.
>you're worse than I thought

They spawn there too, maybe you should get a better cope card.
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>>538381210
Isn't the reasoning for this MO that we're collecting samples to study the environment of the gloom? It's not an invasion.
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>>538381105
the bot maps can deliver to if they mass spam the jammers all over the place but the search and destroy missions shouldn’t be super helldive
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seething
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>>538381196
>solofag selfishly uses mech to kill scavengers and warriors on the other side of the map while his 3 teammates fight the vast majority of the horde because they're drawing all the spawns
Good shit
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>>538381281
Then the MO should have tiers of rewards instead of all or nothing
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>>538381281
if they wanted that then they should've sent a realistic goal, not 550 million fucking samples
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>>538381375
Why do you care so much how other people play?
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>>538380991
>I am too shit at the game to play d10
>I will lobby for nerfs until they trivialize the game for my toddler brain
>I will not lower the difficulty
>if you disagree with me you are a Swedish cock lover arrowhead glazer
>no I do not have a single argument to back up my claims for nerfs other than being dogshit at the game.
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Saw some Terminids today. Filthy creatures. Be seeing you.
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>In the trailer for this patch they said that you can shoot the wings off of dragonroaches
>destroying them doesn't actually do anything
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>>538381412
Wait is it really that high?
Thats like 2000 samples per person if 300,000 people played on that planet non stop. How the fuck are we even half way there.
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>>538381167
lower the difficulty.
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I will use my mech to deliver a hellbomb directly to the spore lung. I do not care that you all are fighting the memelord with stalwarts. I will complete the objectives.
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>>538380991
It's called bait, newfriend.
Our resident shitposter the nerftranny cares nothing for reality, let alone the state of the game, only for (You)s and attention. He will make the most retarded arguments just for the next shot of attention.
Hide and ignore is the only thing you can do.
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>>538380393
Yeah, thanks to what. If people didn't complain about it, you'd still have this shit ingame because swedish pride doesn't allow these fuckers to learn from their stupidity.
And now we have:
>Epoch can't destroy a fucking metal grate or a container door because realism (but gas can)
>Solo Silo can't blow up a structure with it's big-ass explosion because realism
>But SEAF artillery with a smoke shell can even if the shell is smaller than the solo silo missile because realism
>Dragonroach can fly with a full armored body thanks to flight magic and realism
>Suppressors don't work because realism
>Pistols have a crazy sway because... They're light so realism or something?
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>>538381746
You can actually kill spore lungs with just the mech too if the hellbomb decides to land on the ceiling
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>>538381616
The game is the same on all difficulties.
You're retarded and likely some third world pajeet.
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>>538381586
Because it only takes one retard like him going off on his own to make the mission even more miserable for everyone else. Then he says "skill issue" just because he can clear a mega nest that's spawning scavengers and bile spotters with a single mech because the 50 chargers, impalers, and dragonroachers are breaching on his squadmates. Basically people like him are worthless teammates.
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>>538381703
The Chinese probably started rigging, but there is only so much rigging that they can do
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As a newfag to the game, I'm struggling to understand enemy spawns. Are they infinite? Sometimes it's hard to judge when to stay and fight or instead just run (because otherwise you're wasting your time).
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>>538381831
erm actually some armor values change based on difficulty chud
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>>538381841
Then just kick him...
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>>538381841
>use best overall strategy to clear the objectives
>this is bad because he's not here to change your diaper and kill enemies for you
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>>538381821
I bring my own from outside the hive. There is no guarantee that the mech will have enough ammo left to destroy the lung after fighting my way in solo. I'd like to complete the objective as a team, but again my teammates are fighting the reddit lord with stalwarts and gas mines.
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>>538381872
Just keep figthing shit.
It's fun and pisses off meta sweats.
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>>538381841
>AAAAIEEE I WANTED THE GAME TO BE MORE DIFFICULT
>BUT NOT LIKE THAT
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>>538381831
>I am too shit at the game to play d10
>I will lobby for nerfs until they trivialize the game for my toddler brain
>I will not lower the difficulty
>if you disagree with me you are a Swedish cock lover arrowhead glazer
>no I do not have a single argument to back up my claims for nerfs other than being dogshit at the game.
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I kind of miss the Hellmire defense, that was a fun time with the new dragons and I was really happy to see the funny fire tornados return, honestly kino.
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>>538381872
They are infinite, but there are rules that dictate how frequently patrols spawn and how often reinforcements can be summoned
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so is everyone having their exo suit bug out on a constant basis where you can't fire unless you get out and back in again or is it just me
new bug unlocked
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>>538381872
Enemy spawns that are ambient (patrols) are directly tied to difficulty, but every faction has specific enemies that can call in more enemies (Bug Breach, Bot Drop), once you have an understanding of how to kill effectively there is almost no reason to run and not just kill whatever moves. TLDR? Infinite if you can't kill fast enough
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>>538381872
do you like shooting enemies?
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>>538382092
I blessedly have not encountered this particular quirk of swedecode yet.
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>>538381841
Him running off and completing objectives is a good things. Retards wasting all of the reinforcements fighting the memelord with grossly inadequate loadouts is the bad thing.
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>>538381703
it is when you factor in the fact that we barely manage to bring out more than 15-20 of each sample, from a combination of vetrans who don't need samples and are used to the MO being rigged and new players being abysmal at the game and not grabing all the samples on a nest/POI
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>>538381962
>everybody selects their loadouts together and oftentimes balance AT/Chaff with one another
>oh would you look at that, the faggot who went AT is nowhere in sight
Just tell everyone you're gonna be shoving a dildo up your ass in the corner of the map while in the mission preparation screen and save people the trouble of assuming you're going to contribute when it's required.
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>>538382092
Sven decided your particular client would be completely fucked
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Why is this thread so alive at this hour how fucking european are you
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>>538381872
There's a hidden cooldown after each bug breach/bot drop, they need to wait a certain amount of time before they can call in a new one. However certain things does lower the cooldown and dying is one of them, so if you're getting your shit kicked in you might be better off just running
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>>538381872
Sort of. You get breaches which spawn a set amount of enemies. But they vary in size, and its hard to guess how big the breach is going to be.

But you can kill everything in the breach and it will stop spawning. Patrols are endless, and they ramp up in count based on a number of factors. The main ones being if you're near a mega hive, objective or extract. They double in rate when you complete the mission. (This is all datamined shit and for no reason left unexplained as a mechanic).
Patrols spawn endlessly near the players and keep spawning.

The best thing you can do is to typically keep moving, and never stand and shoot unless you're holding an area for an objective. You always want to move somewhere as there is an inbuilt time limit. It's very possible to keep fighting and surviving, but that doesn't get you anywhere.

>>538381939
True.
Also nigger.
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>>538382258
Everyone hopped off to avoid the chinks and shitskins that populate this hour so we are here now
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>>538381841
People like him clear meganests and you don't
If being a distraction is the only thing you are good for, then shut up and do it
Or lower the difficulty
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>>538382223
Oh you choose your loadout based on your squad's loadout? I sure hope you're not complaining when a teammate picks the arc dog. You really are the original cuck, the patient zero.
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>>538381841
>Clearing objectives through division of labor is "Making the mission harder"

Again, I'm convinced you "muh solofags are ruining my games" are actually Darktide /coopg/ fags.One guy running off on his own is not going to "ruin the mission" for you unless you care about chasing numbers, especially if they, by your own fucking admission are clearing objectives which by definition is the opposite of "ruining the mission". This isn't darktide where your hour long havoc 40 auric maelstrom whatever the fuck run is going to be bricked by one person making one mistake. If you genuinely need to play as a team because you're worried about using all 20 reinforces, you're the shitter, not the ones who are splitting off and doing objectives.
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>>538382068
ESL pajeet
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>>538382223
Only retards expect someone to carry them with shit like anti chaff or anti tank. If there is an enemy that hard counters you it is your own damn fault for bringing a garbage meme build. The only change you should consider making when faced with your teammates build is maybe equipping arc armor if you see him bringing the teamkiller 9000
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>>538382223
>Everyone balances AT/Chaff with eachother
Guys... do we tell him.
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>>538382258
I woke up at 4 AM
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>>538382223
I fucking hate this. I've learned to never specialize even slightly, because some retard thinks they're doing a good job by running around doing objectives and not killing heavies with their recoiless.
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>>538382223
>drop on bugs without AT in your own loadout
you're close to understanding how bad AH is at enemy design but your rage is at your teammates for some reason
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>>538382223
I just know that this is one of those light pen players
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>bring recoilless rifle
>bring EAT
>bring commando
>bring AT emplacement
>take plasma accelerator for my primary
>bring ultimatum for my secondary
>bring thermite for my grenade
>I am the god of anti-tank, no heavy can exist for more than 1 micron before being I smite it off the face of the planet
>oh shit.. is that... is that a single lone scavenger??!
>AAAAAAAH STALWART-SAMA PLEASE SAVE MEEEEEEEEEE
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>>538382258
I had 4 hours sleep, I need super credits
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>blitz on hive world
>terminal bugs out and floats in the air because of course it does
>wait out extraction while the hive lord is around
>pelican lands on the bugged terminal so you can't enter it
>and it also technically never lands so the timer never starts either
>hive lord does it's slam attack on me
>20 seconds later
>high value target objective completed, hive lord killed
>mfw
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>>538382378
Just an fyi they can actually fuck the group over by being near certain areas that double spawn rates..
And it's doubly gay to just speed run everything. Like I don't care if its helping, if some nigger came in and clicked a button to complete the mission that would suck. He should play with himself in his own lobby.
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>>538382559
You can specialize, but you cannot let yourself be hard countered by an opponent. You need a plan for dealing with everything.
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>>538382341
>People like him clear meganests and you don't
Anybody with a single brain cell and a mech can clear an empty mega nest. The point is that the mega nest does not need to be cleared right now because there's 3 dragon niggers and a breach on the team and you are nowhere in sight. Are you too dense to understand that?
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>>538382735
>areas that double spawn rates
Oh so now you're just straight up making shit up because you're getting dunked on by everyone?
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>>538382705
Kinda based though, id play with that nigger and have a fun time protecting his ass.
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This weapon is a crutch.
It's beyond good, it's meta on every faction.
It might look weak or fair because of its ammo capacity, but every shot is
>a 50% railgun shot without charging it (with 50 durable damage on top) + a bunch of gas grenades you can aim + a shot that can overpen all medium and light enemies
It's beyond broken.
It's the recoiless rifle of backpackless weapons.
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>>538382378
If people want to solo they can play alone, i prefer the game with a 4 man team.
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>>538382223
>not having any form of AT whatsoever
>on fucking diff 10 bugs
you are so braindead it hurts
also why are you and your other buttfuck buddies rolling with chaff clear and relying on one person for your AT needs?
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>>538382735
Hold on, being near certain objectives doubles the spawn rate for my fellows battling for their lives? Excellent. Now I'll solofag AND I won't complete the objective.
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>>538382735
The increased patrol rates are nothing burgers. You don't even need to fight the patrols.

Optimal in this game are two teams of two splitting up and pushing objectives whenever the other pair is bogged down by reinforcements
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>>538382824
Naw you can totally grief people by doing this
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>>538381872
Yes, they are infinite
There are "bug breaches" that will funnel spawns in one spot but if you don't trigger any the same number will spawn randomly in patrols near players. Why? No reason, ssedes are just tetarded. At some point (early in development) there were actually extra enemies in bug breaches but they kept cranking up patrols and nerfing bug breaches until they became meaningless. People actually started exploiting bug breaches by provoking them far from objectives to keep the bugs away.
Few patches ago they fixed stealth so currently you can avoid combat altogether, so it makes sense to avoid bug breaches again, but it jist makes the game boring.
>when to stay and fight or instead just run
If you see a bug breach you can dump your stratagems into it to see a number of kills go up
If you aren't near objective, move towards objective. You should kill shit on the move, not stay. Only stay near objectives.
If you see enemies that aren't aggroed, you don't need to kill thrm, but you absolutely can if you want to see the number go up. It's a casual game, don't worry about efficiency. If gamer dads and their kids can do it, so can you.
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>>538382849
>jerk of in a corner watching your teammates do all the work
Solofags = Cuckolds
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>>538382849
No. It spawns patrols near the solo guy. The retard is seething about enemies spawning on the other side of the map.
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>>538382223
>4 stratagem slots
>a grenade slot
>a secondary slot
>Can't spare a single one of these for AT which would let you be self-sufficient against any faction in basically any scenario, letting you bring whatever else you want in any of the other slots

Genuinely curious, what does your loadout look like on an average mission?
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>>538382823
Anon, 2/3rds of the map are made of caves where dragons can't do shit to you and breaches spawns behind walls. If you can't clear the one single nest and the shrieker nests in the open area in the first 5 minutes of the game, the problem isn't the guy going solo to destroy the mega nest...
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Why do console players add eachother so often?
my whole friend list is just full of random snoys and xbots now
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>>538381128
>mech just blows up on touchdown for no reason
>teammate throws a barrage on your mech call-in
>teammates litter cave exits with AT mines
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>>538382834
>People are starting to see how broken and p2w gas is

Wild.
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>hit boxes on new enemy attacks are retarded
>stratagems won't arrive where you place them every on the new map
>mechs lose the ability to fire every 20 steps if you don't keep firing
>fuel transport shuttle bugs out and will never arrive
this game is never going to come out of early access
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>>538382823
>there's 3 dragon niggers and a breach on the team
Sounds like a perfect time to clear a meganest
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>>538381128
>call in mech
>the 50 roaches that have accumulated since we've been in the caves descend on it
>limp smoking into the cave with 40 rounds and a broken arm
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>>538382834
maybe it's just cause I don't host games, but this thing is mediocre as fuck for me
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>>538383024
I hate
>Status effects don't apply if you're away from the host
I've actually sat near the bile titans hole flaming a bile titan for a good minute waiting for it to die, and I didn't realize it was never catching on fire until the last second.
The melee bug where enemies can hit you when staggered pisses me off an insane amount.
That and the fucking hell pods coming in a mile away from the beacon.
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>>538382975
Probably breaker spray and pray, stim pistol, gas grenade, support pack, stalwart, gas strike, eagle cluster
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I think all MOs should be designed with the mindset that a win or a failure should be accounted for. Give realistic goals where the failure to achieve it is purely on the playerbase, not because they couldn't achieve a statistical impossibility.
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>>538380086
It would be cool if it had Dunes/Tremors worms mechanics where it's attracted to footsteps and you could avoid him popping under you by being still
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>>538383024
>stratagems won't arrive where you place them every on the new map
I have died so many times to this, I swear it's targeted
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>>538383261
You are banned from working at ArrowHead forever.
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Does the warp pack let you avoid fall damage if you use it before you hit the ground?
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>>538383309
it can but you might just teleport into the air instead and still snap your ankles
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>>538383261
B-but that would ruin Joel's carefully constructed storyline! Don't you want to eat shit all the time until the time i pull a Avengers Endgame scene and we win handily?!
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>>538383193
It's support niggers. They feel great staggering the charger while the quasar guy just kills it. They seethe if the AT guy breaks off and solos the mega nest
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>>538383309
yes
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>>538382834
>says it does 650 damage
>AP5 means it overpenetrates
>watched the spear fly right through fleshmobs
>0% penetration slowdown
>overseer main is 600 HP
so why doesn't this thing one shot overseers through their armour plates? how much higher does penetration need to be to overpenetrate? AP3 guns seem to be able to go through AV0 targets like scavs, but I don't recall ever seeing AP2 guns overpenetrate. do you need 3 levels of penetration over the armour to overpenetrate?
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>>538383261
>not because they couldn't achieve a statistical impossibility
We've had so many of these fucking MOs in a row.
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SAAAAAAAAAAAAAAR LOWER TEH DIFFICULTY SAAAR YOU BLOODLY PAKISTANI BASTARD
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>>538382975
My loadout is enough to solo a cave except I'm not being the nigger using my mech to kill patrols and scavs. I save them for Hive Lords or breaches.
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>>538383309
On some low jumps yes, it will teleport you to the floor but if you're too high it will just teleport you horizontally to the direction you choose and fall, if you take damage or not and how much is purely arbitrary so don't go thinking the warp pack did anything
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Man I forgot how good ap2 feels killing chaff. Went from pacifier to pummeler to liberator. Felt like I was holding a stalwart near the end. Pummeler was also surprisingly okay, but I was just using nigger dog shit like melee and throwing knives. So maybe that's why it felt okay.
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>>538381872
>Sometimes it's hard to judge when to stay and fight or instead just run
If you can quickly take out a patrol or have enough firepower at the ready in a breach its best to take a stand and try to clear them out. When it looks like it will be a real toll on your ammo its best to move on. Target prioritise the enemies most dangerous to your build, then the ones most dangerous to your team. On the hardest difficulties unless you're playing in a tight squad you usually don't have enough DPS to take everything out comfortably, which incentivizes constant run & gun. Don't be afraid to lead enemies on a chase, its better to lure them off major objectives then loop back around.
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>>538383309
This >>538383616 you can also dive and gain a bit of extra depth, requires some timing though because once you ragdoll you can't use the warp
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>>538383809
Swan diving into a run feels amazing with warp pack.
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>>538382849
From what I've heard, it affects what comes out of breaches/drops. Different objectives have different weights, but generally being in the 'proximity' of anything of interest increases the number and type of bugs/etc to come out of them. Lines up with experience, where stuff like heavy/mega nest breaches will just shit out commanders, chargers and impalers and go on for two napalm barrage lengths.
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I'm now just watching vids of new players playing the game to see the innocence I lost now that I'm a jaded fag who can't imagine diving in anything less than D10 and every death just lost its magic...
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how is it that using the blitzer feels more okay for it to not be as powerful as the arc thrower, but the arc thrower feels like youre wasting a stratagem slot on something better?
>can stun plebbitors just fine, but stalkers stand there getting shock therapy for 10 seconds while i fumble to kill it
>if it was any other weapon, it wouldve killed it by now
blitzer could do with a liiiiiiittle bit more range though.
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I swear with these bugs I wish super earth would let me strap a heavy flamer to a mech so I can burn em faster
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>>538384530
yeah cause you're here, nigga
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usually when I come back to a multiplayer game like this that's being actively updated after months, there's all sorts of new paid content, new FREE content of merit, bug fixes/polish, better balance, new features/mechanics
This game consistently none of that except more paid content, and only a third of that is even worth using
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>>538384782
But the warbonds ARE free! You can get SC for free, anon! Just play the game!
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>>538384782
you didnt pay for dragons or worms
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Recommend me the best healslut loadout that I can use so a low level can carry me through a super helldive. So far I am thinking:

>Lib concussive so daddy can finish off the enemies
>Stimpistol
>Stun grenades
>EATs so daddy can kill heavies
>Napalm eats so daddy can kill breaches
>Supplypack
>that one energy shield stratagem?
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How do we fix digger warriors, or WIGGERS as I like to call them?
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>>538384782
>city maps
>variants
>striders
>Illuminate
>hive worlds
>new bugs
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>>538383498
not how the game works
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>>538385043
Grenade or stratagem that works like those sand thumpers in Half life 2.
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>>538384936
Eruptor so you can kill yourself
Ultimatum so you can kill yourself
Throwing knives because you're good at throwing things.
Mortar sentry to kill yourself.
Landmines so you can kill yourself.
Orbital napalm to throw at every patrol you see.
Sterilizer cause you stink
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>>538384936
One of the armours with extra heal duration, the light medic is probably best because it makes you look like a slut.
I would say the pacifier is better because it stuns instead of staggers, giving daddy an easier time to headshot.
Consider bringing the car to drive daddy around and you could also bring daddy a mech aswell.
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>>538385112
It would fit with the whole Dune aesthetic too
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>>538385149
>the light medic is probably best because it makes you look like a slut
It really does I don't know why they made it look like that.
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>>538384936
kill yourself
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>>538385149
daddy drives the car, sluts ride in the back, my dog rides shotgun
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>>538383498
>overpenetration
this does not exist in the game.
whoever told you that it does, is a conman and a fraud
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>>538385043
noise weapons
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>>538385043
by taking the explosives pill
>wtf this sub-faction requires me to do something else to fight them
not a fan of their invincibility while underground, but ever since i swallowed my pride and took the GL + supply backpack, or brought the AC to osha-une, life got easier.

that aside, make them have a limit on how long they can be underground. or have a delay on when they pop out of the ground. if youre not the host, you can easily dodge their dragon punches. if you are, oh BROTHER.
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>>538385043
torcher
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>>538383303
NOOOOOOOO BUT IT WAS SIMPLY A LOGICAL AND FAIR CHOICE THAT WOULD HAVE MADE EVERYONE HAPPY!
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>>538384936
consider taking the autocannon so you can reload once daddy has gone through all his ammo
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>some dude singing a nasheed as he portable hellbombs into enemy base
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>what if you could shoot napalm eagles?
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>>538385519
basado
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>>538384530
How come you always show up the second brown hour starts?
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>>538385524
>bug breach happens in a cave, we're outside
>aim the napalm EAT at the ceiling, see it be a mini orbital napalm barrage
Its fun, has a little bit of learning curve to make the most of the clusters, and sometimes it fucks you over with the ricochet. Nothing a master of the airburst couldnt handle, though.
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>>538385524
I was wondering when they'd add another source of Heavy Burning. I didn't expect it to be in expendable form.
Now I'm just wondering if or when they'll add a Napalm grenade, or are we just going to be limited to regular incendiaries forever.
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>>538384936
if I had a cute slutdiver I would tell them if they can't match my K/D they will be punished but if they can or do better they will be rewarded.
oh and force them to run supply pack of course.
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>>538385524
I love this thing
it's really engaging seeing a breech happen calling these in and scanning for any surface or highrise to bounce the cluster off of.
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>EAT
>NEAT
>Commando
>Portable Hellbomb
Name this stratagem selection
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>>538385851
trash
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Cant wait for a future p2w armor that has strategem cooldown baked in :)
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>>538385851
pocket sand loadout
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>>538385851
The Expendables (2010)
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>>538385851
The "Our engine can't handle two mechs in your loadout" build
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How do we fix this piece of shit?
It screws you over for only giving you 3 of these fuckers, they have light-armor pen, and barely cover much area. Its like a worse infantry frag grenade.
Getting 4 of them would be a step in the right direction.
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NEVER FORGET they made you pay 40 dollars for a $30 game, that only gets buggier over time and expects you to pay for every single new weapon and strategem, where half of them are dogshit you don't want to pay for but have to buy grouped
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>>538385984
By sending a pipebomb in Alexus' mailbox
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>>538386032
it's like one of maybe 5 games ive put over 1k hours in so i dunno
you're bald
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>>538385984
Give me 6 or it's literally not worth it.
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>>538386117
Not yet
but my head will never be as smooth as your brain
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Why wasn't the MO to conduct research by extracting E-711 from completing operations on Oshaune considering how much importance they're placing on it?
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Pilestedt told me we will get 8 player raids on dungeon mega bosses.
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>>538386256
You're literally doing it by collecting samples and doing missions to restart pumps.
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>>538386278
game would run at 5 fps
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we don't need anymore fucking grenades, period. unless they make the laser disco nade from tribes ascend
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>>538386356
Plasma grenade with large aoe and pushback (no demo force btw)
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what are we even going to do with the saar juice
dark fluid weapons?
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we don't need anymore fucking primaries, period. unless they make the laser rifle from snoy wars
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>>538386356
the sparkler nades from masters of ceremony warbond?
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>>538334279
Yeah. But AH tested it at lower difficulty when they made that MO. If it was meant to fail from start. They wouldn't have added hold hellmire objective and would have skipped attack on hellmire.
>>538362052
We got objective to kill bugs on tunnels. Rest were outside. Randoms didn't even go to tunnels and kept just dying to hivelord. I had to go alone there to compleat to mission. I reached point where I don't expect randoms to be good. All I expect for them to shoot some bugs as distraction.
But now even that is too much to ask
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>>538384936
You forgot mech (give), car (to collect samples and SC)
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>>538386396
inventing new ways to break reality (your game)
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>playing with pubs
your opinion is discarded automatically.
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How do i be cool?
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>>538386356
We need an impact and sticky version of every grenade.
Something like impact gas is would be obvious enough, but what about a thermite-esc gas grenade that continuously shits out gas on and around whatever the hell you threw it at? That would be pretty badass.
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>>538386497
The caves are safer than the outside.

From my experience, people spend way too much time and resources to fight a dragonroach outside than to focus on the objective, or they bring a bad loadout to begin with.
You run into the caves, and as long you pay attention to your radar and look out for stalkers, you're fine.
First time I'm paying attention to seeing a ? on the minimap for stalker nests or mobile radar stations. And the only time I go "I really wish I had a suppressed weapon right now to not alert the 6 bratty stalkers around the corner".
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>>538386664
how about a bouncy ball grenade that bounces off the enemy and into your head then back at the enemy, going back and forth until one of you dies
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>>538386790
suppressors dont do anything chuddy
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>>538386790
sounds gay
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>>538386606
Record yourself making a terminid into your wife
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>>538386606
rape wid it
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>>538386790
I concur, the only cave problem is there are some turns that flip the car and unless I have an explosive weapon to unflip it's over
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>>538386840
Having a suppressor would be nice, but having a weapon that kills shit is better.
>>538386827
Absolutely basado.
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>>538386790
Alerting 6 bratty Stalkers to your location is the best part though.
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We got a lobby this morning.
steam://joinlobby/553850/109775243279640221/76561198120804312
D10, whatever.
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>>538386979
>2pm
>morning
Good morning sleepy head
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I can run napalm builds on bot front now with coyote, its peak....
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>>538386886
Driving inside the caves is surprisingly nice. You'd think that you're gonna have a bad time inside a cave with a car, but its easier to drive through there than it is on some planets.

Speaking of cars, they made the FRV drive better since the xbox release, but recently, they feel like ass to drive.
You lose ONE tire and suddenly the car loses its will to drive back or forward. Even worse with the GATER
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>dust devil trailer shows pineapple only killing 2 out of 3 grouped warriors
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>>538385984
I don't understand the balancing reasoning for most of the grenades. Utter dogshit gets like two, three uses and then there's Pyrotech with six dead Factory Striders.
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>>538386301
Yes but my idea would be achievable.
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nigger digger squigger
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>I think all MOs should be designed with the mindset that a win or a failure should be accounted for.
That's exactly how they're designed, retard.
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>>538386979
3/4
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>>538387205
They knew it was ass thats why in the into the unjust developer vlog where they showed upcoming shit in that warbond the pineapple got zero mention
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>>538384936
the stim pistol is by definition a crutch and not worth taking. and not the /hdg/ger way of disparaging what is arguably OP and always worth taking
>inb4 b-buts its the only thing that can HEAL teammates so it has to be a sleeper pick! RIGHT?
no dodding dunderhead, most of the deaths in higher difficulty are just massive/stupid amounts of burst damage inflicted upon the player that you couldn't reasonably tank/heal off (not that you could even hit them because of the stupid weapon sway tied to stamina/low projectile speed/teammate mashing a and d thinking it raises their odds of catching a stim/enemy corpse getting in the way/loss of line of sight/sweden). or they run out of stims and die to burst damage anyway. you are just better off running a ultigaytum and nuking heavies that would have done in your teammates or yourself in the first place. pic rel
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>>538387460
Win, nothing happens.
Lose, nothing happens.
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>>538387460
>current mo is designed to fail with no way to win
>this is accounting for a win or a loss scenario

you stoopit?
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>>538387212
the grenades you get are either the best thing for a role, like getting 4 gas nades for AoE CC, or 6 pyrotech nades to both kill heavies and to toss into a chokepoint. HE nades are the most balanced of them all, and thermites are for gamblers.

they couldve made the cluster grenade akin to a bouncing betty+landmine dispenser hybrid. it jumps up and shoots out the clusterlets into the nearby area.
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>>538387179
yes the update reintroduced every bug they fixed.
the version they put the update on didn't have the fixes so now they uave to manually reinsert the bugfix code to the new version which was dated a few months back.
no one in Arrowhead HQ knows what a "version control" or "git" or any of these fancy terms mean.
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>>538387527
>it's a crutch
>because it's useless
???
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>>538387576
>current mo is designed to fail with no way to win
How is it designed to fail, retard. You simply have to extract with samples.
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>>538382834
Errrmmm, the official cord thinks it SUCKS compared to RG and that Railgun is still better chud

1499 with 500 dura damage is far superior than 650 with 275 durable

Railgun doesn't need spawner kill ability from 100 meters
Railgun doesn't need the best dead stagger CC in the game
Railgun doesn't need the ability to lockdown a whole bug breach in 3-4 shots
Railgun doesn't need to kill a group of patrols in 1-2 shot
Railgun doesn't need the penetration ability of killing multiple chaffs and medium in one shot

Railgun strong!

I will rape Alexus if he ever try to touch the Speargun. It's currently on my carry loadout even on D10.
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>>538387847
same way he goes
>stim pistol is crutch because its useless
>take the ultimatum instead that is your get-out-of-jail card for heavies because your loadout couldnt handle them otherwise
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>>538387925
>Enemy pops up on your face
>Weapon capable of killing it will also kill you if you use it
Burrowing chargers in a nutshell.
Also, dunno if you've played in few days, but nobody is able to extract anymore, spawns are just too insane.
Also, the invasion decay rate is kind of a dead giveaway.
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>>538388113
>Weapon capable of killing it will also kill you if you use it

May I shill Plasma Pewer for your distraught?
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>>538388253
I really like this weapon for an alternative pick for oshuane but it really fucking sucks for stalkers and brood commanders
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>>538387527
It's good for topping off people's health between fights so they have a slightly higher chance to maybe survive next bullshit hit but it is absolutely utterly miserable to actually use it.
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>>538388113
how is the invasion decay rate a giveaway for the MO that is about collecting samples...
and
>lets the bug too close
skill issue on your part.
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What is the social experiment AH is doing with Oshaune?
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>>538387205
MY WIFE WARRIOR-CHAN IS JUST THAT STRONG LADIES AND GENTS
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>>538388391
>How to say I haven't played since burrowers dropped without saying it
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>>538387576
I use this helmet with the light ceremonial armor.
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>>538385081
>>538385332
>they don't know
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>>538388521
skill issue
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>>538388521
LOST TO THE PISS
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What will AH learn from the failure of Oshaune, cave diving and diggers?
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>>538388393
>implying AH is conducting social experiments in their game
Experiments imply the idea of finding valuable data and putting it to use in a future project.
AH doesn't know why people like certain things, despite a lot of people going "i like this thing because x and y"

Call it a pagan vision given to me in a dream, but my theory with the current dispatch and the debuffs to eagle re-arm times and the 50% less ammo pickups, is that they saw people talk about Pöpli and how ass it was to fight there, but also it felt like a hard-fought victory.
They throw it on Oshaune without understanding why people liked those debuffs. They're telling you to go eat shit for playing the MO on the last day before the failure.

Same thing can be said about how the dragonroaches are introduced. SOMETHING tells me that they heard people go "Yeah we love fighting Stingrays, but theres some issues with them". They only saw the "we like fighting flying enemies with issues" part and introduced a flying bile titan with no quality checking whatsoever, because they dont playtest their shit for longer than 1 mission it seems.
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>>538388783
Nothing, and they will triple down on that design ethic.
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>>538388809
omg its nahobeano!!
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>>538388528
use explosive weapons, look at the ground moving indicating a bug being there, keep safe distance from bugs
literally a skill issue if you let a bug get close to you.
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>>538388809
interlorper>stingray
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>>538388783
oshaune is helldivers' klendathu. the first expedition into an enemy stronghold resulting in terrible losses and a complete failure to achieve any strategic goals, which will act as the catalyst for wide sweeping changes in policy and force deployment. expect tier 6 ship upgrades and the APC to release in the wake of this failure
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>>538389501
ETA: Next year.
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>>538389501
what the fuck are the tier 6 ship upgrades even gonna be?
shorter CD times for the jump / hover / warp-pack?
giving you full grenades and stims back from a resupply?
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>>538389634
Armor stripper rounds for orbital railcannon.
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>>538388113
>It's designed to fail becauwse the new content is hawwwd :(
Did you really type this out unironically LMAO
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>>538390207
I'm just calling it valve blue balling because that's what it is, even if the company is different.
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>>538389634
>t6 upgrades when they just added a line to shipmaster being happy the SD is fully upgraded and she already says it for t5 maxed ships
Lol
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>>538387925
>extract with 550 million samples from this shithole filled with med pen required chaff and silent chargers and bugged insta-kill flying enemies
>aw too bad with so much bullshit going around you couldn't get your piddly 12 commons and rares per mission
>looks like you failed completely because of your own lack of effort and not because we tasked you with challenge pissing
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>>538393298
you dont get it, this type of MO has a set ending, no matter if you get the goal number or not. Whatever is obtained will be enough.
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>>538386256
To give xbox players samples
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>>538395634
>lets help xbox players by giving them a sample objective
>lets put it on the worst planet with a terrible difficulty where people will fail to extract
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>>538395634
they knew going in that extracting at all would be an issue in the content, which is why they set the MO for samples. It was to give the more mong/tryhard aspect of the playerbase a reason to beat their heads against the wall and to give xboxers an experience. The problem is that the majority of the playerbase has for the last three days rejected the new content, with precentage on Oshaune steadily dropping (down to 40% now). Once the MO end I would not be surprised if Oshaune (and the new enemies) become inaccessible for a while so they can look at feedback/fix issues with them. Leaks suggest something new with the squids is next, hence the dark fluid connection with E-117.
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>>538363886
The halo AR was good until the coyote came out now idk what the point of it is. The halo ar had strength over the lib-penetrator’s drum mag but now the coyote outclasses its strength and even has a deeper mag, so idk
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>>538365870
>freedom’s flame
You mean the fucking cookout warbond that gives you fire resist armor for the Incendiary Corps?
For me anyway, there’s 3 warbonds you automatically need and all the others you can forget about
>Viper Commandos (stim booster)
>whatever bond has Thermite
>whatever bond has Ultimatum
I have all the bonds but I would forsake all the others for these 3.
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>>538386256
Because the war is scripted and cannot be allowed to actually progress because the content isn't finished yet.

In Helldivers 1 there was an actual campaign to play through as a community.



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