Halfling edition>What is /crpgg/?This general is dedicated to the discussion of computer role playing games such as:Arcanum, Baldur's Gate, Deus Ex, Disco Elysium, Divinity: Original Sin, Dragon Age, Expeditions, Fallout, Icewind Dale, Jade Empire, Necromancer's Tale, Neverwinter Nights, Pathfinder, Solasta: Crown of the Magister, Pillars of Eternity, Planescape: Torment, Shadowrun, The Age of Decadence, Temple of Elemental Evil, Tyranny, UnderRail, Vampire: The Masquerade – Bloodlines, Warhammer 40k: Dark Heresy, Rogue Trader, Wasteland, Wizardry, and many others. Low quality posts about romances or 'waifus' should be ignored and reported.>Recommendations:https://files.catbox.moe/gx6f4u.png>Computer Role Playing Games Resources:https://pastebin.com/NEvHHATehttps://monkposter.github.io/community.htmlPrevious: >>538147362>Thread QuestionFavorite fantasy race?
>>538336404Drow, since they're the most coomer
>me when I see a romancefag
>>538336404>Favorite fantasy race?elves or tieflings
>>538336404Dunmer
>>538336404>Favorite fantasy race?Dunmer if TESTiefling if dndslop because demon girls are sexy
>>538336404hobbits I mean halflings because I'm short and lazy irl
Should I start with Kingmaker or Wrath of the Righteous first? I've played BG3 and DoS1/2.
>>538337303WOTR is much more polished than Kingmaker, so that
>>538337436Any general pointers?
>>538337739Do real time for trash mob. Turn based for tougher enemies
>>538337303KM if you want low fantasyWOTR is you want epic fantasy
Not low fantasy, nor epic fantasy, but secret third thing
>>538338584Final fantasy
>>538337303Kingmaker is a more classic adventure.Wrath leans way more heavily into the power fantasy. It also has far more things to consider in character creation so it can be overwhelming if you don't have experience in the system which you can get form playing Kingmaker.
Which CRPG protagonist after their respective game?
>>538338956Charname after the end of ToB
>>538338584Sword & Sorcery?
>>538338956The Necromancer's tale, literally so
Owlcat is definitely gonna add the female Tau romance companion we want. What are your hopes for her companion quest? > Made for MPC (Male Psyker Cock) btw
>>538338956Gorion's Ward when he realizes he's in the timeline where the Imoen mod isn't installed
>>538339112>female Tau romanceNobody wants this Not even you, you're just pretending
>>538339112There is a book about a couple who enjoy defacing pictures of Mao, I hope something like that
>>538339112She'll be a reverse Yrliet in the sense that you'll pledge to stay with her for the rest of her short life Tau live fifty standard years, max
>>538339112I hope she looks lore accurate so I get to witness you retards cry
>>538339342BASED > Corrupt tomboy Tau and make her your loving wife even though she still appreciates certain aspects of her culture> Faced with the girth, width and pulsating warp mana from your cock she can´t overlook the average male psykers cock prowess and dominance over her contemporaries.
What happened to purge the xenos
>>538339112It's extremely unlikely in either game. Other than the fact that the Tau empire is on the exact opposite end of the galaxy from the Calixis Sector, the jericho-maw warp gate is one of the most heavily defended points in the sector.
>>538339469Anon you don´t have to sell me the dlc, I´m already going to buy it.
>>538339602you don't live me
>>538339602Anon the fanarts will fix that.
>>538339869You don't always have to computer roleplay as the inquisition. There are entire source books for alien races.
>>538339602If they stretched navigator appearance to make Cassia not nightmare fuel, I don't see why they wouldn't do the same here
>>538340309Cassia is actually hideous, especially her model.It's the voice that makes you think she's a moeblob.Likewise Yrliet looks awful
>>538336404>Low quality posts about romances or 'waifus' should be ignored and reported.Already lost
>>538340426Yrliet's model is a beautiful British woman from the isles
>>538339112>>538339925
>>538337303Another consideration is that it will be harder to go from WotR -> KM, due to the QoL things introduced in WotR. So, if you're confident you'll want to play both, I'd start with KM just for that reason.>>538337739Play on Normal, even customize the difficulty easier if you need to. You can adjust it at any time even in combat (same with TB vs RTwP)Don't be overwhelmed with the options, just pick what you think seems cool. Decide what role you want to play and stick to a lane: ranged archer, blaster wizard, martial, whatever. There's a few things that aren't necessarily clear to new players, just randomly a few:- There's a -4 penalty for shooting (or casting ranged touch attack) into combat, this requires Precise Shot to get rid of, which itself requires Point Blank Shot. So, decide early if you want to be shooting into combat or not. A debuffing wizard won't need to, for instance. Ranged attack absolutely wants this of course, and wizards using ranged touch attack spells. - There's AC, Touch AC, and Flat-Footed. Touch AC is for touch attacks of course, and is much lower than AC itself. Flat-Footed is for surprise rounds or if someone's held or whatever.- Getting up from prone procs an Attack of Opportunity. Casting a spell in melee range *might* but there's a "defensive casting" roll.Honestly there's tons of little tips and tricks and gotchas, but you can play on Normal and unless you're being a major dum-dum you don't need to think about it really, or you'll pick it up as you go.tldr: Play on Normal, pick and do what you think is cool, but try to have characters pick a lane and stay in it for the most part.
>>538339112Even a male Tau companion would be really interesting.I just wanna see him/her in their iconic armors.
>>538340736Imagine the CRYING if the tau is male
>>538340984Or if Larry and her get together
>>538340736>>538339112
>>538341038Do the space elves like the tau, im not into the series
>>538340984Male Tau would just turn into the number 1 companion I bet. He would turn into a Garrus type I´m sure.
>>538337739>>538340692>you'll pick it up as you goand actually the biggest tip is to hover on the rolls in the status window to see what contributed, this will teach a lot about why something hit/missed. Right-clicking the statusbar or the enemy info if you have Inspect on (you should) will make it a window you can look at a bit easier.
>>538341163Eldar used to like Tau, because Tau were a secret uplift project of the Eldar, intended as a client race to use against the mon-keigh.But then the Tau turned out to dislike the Eldar intensely, regarding them as a race of interfering nuisances who talked in riddles and acted arrogantly.Offended, the Eldar turned away from the Tau and pretend they don't exist.
>>538341163Naive children making the same mistakes as everyone else despite the warnings. Eldrad made a comment on being hopeful of them in 3rd edition.
>tfw no strong yet graceful gue'la bf to toss me around like a ragdoll
>>538337739You're kind of just fucked. The pathfinder system has so much bullshit in it and as a new player you have no idea what items, permanent buffs, and enemies exist.If I had to give one piece of advice though it's to stack as many buffs with unique adjectives as possible. You'll see shit like enhancement, morale, insight, etc. and as long as the adjective is unique it stacks. If two buffs have the same adjective then only the highest counts.
i hope the additions are an ork and taui'm sick of more dogmatic humans in a rogue trader group of all thingssave that shit for dh
Thanks for the tips everyone, think I'd like to play both so I'll start with Kingmaker for now.
Bloodlines 2 is going to be the cyberpunk of fantasy games.
>>538342918Dogma human is easiest to add for them. Blame them for being lazy
>>538342918If WOTR is any indication, DH won't have a bunch of dogmatics eager to serve but a bunch of heretics forced to work with you through contrivances
>>538340538A true celtic thistle
>>538342918>dogmatic humans in a rogue trader group of all thingsYeah what the hell was that shit>inquisitor>lawman>sister of battle>death cultistAre we running a spaceship or a hive city police squad?
>>538341846Based Muscle Mommy Tau Enjoyer
Idea for rogue trader 2, make an actual rogue trader game where i have a retinue of aliens,criminals and unsactioned psykers.
>Walk into an elven village as part of my investigation>Immediately get accused by some random hysterical woman that I'm there to 'mix genes' with the locals and that I should leaveI'm surprised more games don't poke fun at that
>rouge trader 2One barley made its money back not happening.
Idea for Dark Heresy, make a game where i have a retinue of aliens, criminals, unsactioned psykers, radical techpriests, and other suspicious characters, and instead of investigating crime on a hive world we fly around in a spaceship exploring strange new worlds.
Don't worry guys the rogue trader game will be a rogue trader game after the 8th dlc.
Why are rogue traders even a thing still? The emperor should just declare the program over.
Idea for a kingdom founding game: you're joined by a hopeful writer, a former paladin, a deva in disguise, a genocidal hunter and a cleric obsessed with the end timesidea for a crusading game: you're joined by a little girl, a party-loving noble, a petty thief, a zesty cleric and some bored lady
Rogue Trader is only getting 4 DLCs.
>>538343367Why is her spirit stone on the side, instead of in the middle of her chest?Female elves wear it in the middleUnless...
>>538336404G O B L I N S
>>53834404840gayfags hate all of those and would execute them all
>>538345504That's the first Season pass, there will be another.
>>538347282season pass 1 ended with Lex RBTs
Season pass 1 is Lex Imperialis and Void Shadows.Season pass 2 is Treyzn and the starship graveyard dlc's.We don't know if there will be a season pass 3 at the moment, but there was for Wotr and they said if they continue to sell they will make more and VS/LI both have good sales numbers and review scores so there's no reason to assume they won't. But it doesn't matter since Dark Heresy will be out by the time we're looking at a potential season 3 so we'll be playing that.
>>538342927Have funthere's some janky shit here and there but overall I have fond memories of playing it for the most partThe only tip I have off the top of my head is that everyone will basically need to have Blind Fight at some point, maybe by around level 6 or so. That's not a "metastrategy" thing, more like you will just be completely fucked without it when the time comes due to the way they implemented a certain mechanic.
>>538337739I didn't read the other responses, but CC (Crowd Control) is your friend. The high damage spells may look appealing, but they're not that good. Spells that look kind of boring or simple, like Grease and Hold Person, are notoriously strong and you should be using them, even at high levels. Also, in general, casters are much stronger than martials (fighters, rogues, etc.). You still want martials (think auto-attackers), because they do most of the damage. But your casters will control the battlefield immensely, and amplify your martials through buffs, summons, CC, and debuffs on the enemy that act as very effective force multipliers. In general, buffs are VERY good too. Having +4 Strength may not seem very attractive or flashy, but often equates to a +10% chance to hit and +2 damage for your dudes, which is quite good.
>>538343569Look at how hard 40kfags sperg out about us having two xenos and a psyker because muh heresy That’s why
Need some clarification with Rogue Trader and Cassia. Just started the game last week. I had the full intention of trying to romance Argenta, so I did not choose any flirty dialogue with Cassia. I come to find out that you cannot romance Argenta. Am I locked out of Cassia's romance permanently now?
>>538350497You get a couple of chances. Talking to her on the bridge and it's something like>my feelings for your are more than mere admiration, Lady Cassiaor some shit like that. Try talking to her on the bridge and see what comes up.How far have you proceeded in the game? If you've missed it, you could always mess around with toybox to manually activate her romance. You could just look up the etude (script) name for her romance and turn it on.
>>538350497Anon...
>>538350497time to settle for Jae you're both fuck-ups it will all work out
>>538350497If you're pretty early on you'll get a second chanceIf not, open toybox (default is control-f10) and go Search 'n Pick -> Etdues -> All and search for Cassia Romance ActiveThen hit Start, and remember to press Save, then Close in the bottom left.I haven't tried this for Cassia's romance specifically, but this is generally how you use toybox and it should work.If you haven't installed Toybox, I highly recommend ithttps://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kroguetrader/mods/1
>>538350497>It's too bad you fumbled the three-eyed mon-keigh who sees into Sha'eil, Elantach>Maybe I could be your girlfriend instead?
>>538350497Romance everything that moves.They don't make you pick one until the end of chapter 4.
>>538341575Nice fanfic
>>538352954Be careful not to romance Solomorne though, or it will turn you gay.
>>538336404Just started Solomorne's questline. Why is every dialogue option so flirty?
>>538353069Why did Owlcat force me to pick every option to fuck him? I'm shaking right now.
>>538353069instructions unclear I'm something called a "dog dad" now
>>538351087I just completed Janus. I didn't choose the dialogue option when I first recruited her and found her in the study. And I didn't choose it again when I asked her about her eye. I assume I'm just locked out forever now?>>538351174no...>>538351787She's not that bad. Still wished the game had let me know it would lock it out permanently.>>538351961I think I've blown it completely. I guess I'll have to use Toybox or just save it for another playthrough.
>>538353571Yeah I think you've missed the fishboat.Could try toybox and see what happens. If it works, you won't immediately notice any change, but shortly after she should come into your office being cute.Her romance is fairly substantial, but so are the others.
Tau girls have two pussies.
>>538351787This one is actually fine. You do a lot of stuff with her that you miss out on without the romance.>>538353571Whatever you do, one bit of advice I'll give you is to bring your gf with you on the first mission of Act 3. You'll know it when you see it. All the waifus get extra content for that bit.
But you have to believe the second one is there...
>>538353842No that's misinfo.The Y-shaped thing on the head is the pussy
owlslopper plays an rpg challenge (impossible)
What dialogue do I need to choose to romance frogposter?
Guys, I was in Irenicus' dungeon in BG2 and Jaheira started flirting with me almost immediately. I shut her down because I'm planning to romance Imoen but I just found out that she gets captured for most of the game? Is it too late to restart the romance with Jaheira
>>538355347imoen doesn't have a romance. also don't post-humoursly cuck your bro khalid like that
>Be polite>He immediately assume that i want to fuck him deeply and passionately I wonder if Sosiel browses 4chan
>>538355330Just use toybox (anal probe) to activate his romance flag (prostate)
>>538350497I can see why you assumed you could romance the sister.Her early dialogue does read that way, somehow.
Almost every other post is about romance.Really, this is actual mental illness.
>>538356125saying "Oh," before another dude's name is gay anon there's no avoiding it
>>538356648No it's not. I say that all the time when talking to my friends and I'm not gay at all haha
Romancefags make me not like romance
>>538336404Svirfneblin
>>538356913>I say that all the timeNigga you gay
I wanna smooch her.
>>538339925I was reading about T'au lore and didn't know that they only live for 40 years. If you did have a T'au wife, it'd only be for a decade at most. And she probably wouldn't even live to see her children graduate high school. The even weirder thing is that there's a sizable portion of the Human Allies in the T'au Empire that are older than every living T'au(especially when the humans aren't dying young because of poor living conditions in the Imperium).
Do Owlcat games have VA in languages other than english?
>>538358642No they only speak English so they only VA there games in english
>>538358882That's a pity. Argenta and Yrliet would both be hotter in Russian.
>>538358396>If you did have a T'au wife, it'd only be for a decade at mostDo they mature at thirty or something?
>>538358642>>538359364they must have Russian VO because there are some minor NPCs in the English version that still speak Russian
>>538358396I like it because it puts humans in an unusual role>Members of a long-lived, impossibly ancient race whose empire was once mighty but is falling into decay
>>538359513Those are just people from Irrisen
>>538353185It's to make it obvious to paypigs how to start the romance.It quits down after the first mission
>>538345504>only getting extra content for like 3+ yearsI pity the 'I only play when it's done' people. At least they can finally play Wrath
I think I can name every plot and plot intersection in AoD at this point.
I've never played Rogue Trader but I know all the characters and their personalities
>>538361515I never did the Assassin and Thief storylines. Loremaster last when knowing the common piitfalls was very fun
>Low quality posts about romances or 'waifus' should be ignored and reported.Stop vandalizing the OP with your meme
>>538362243Me too. For example:Abelard>Kindly old butlerJimmy>Stern casanovaYrliet>Clumsy space elf Idira>Alcoholic witchMarzipan>Stewie Griffin in spaceNo need to play the game
>>538364701Abelard>>Kindly old butler>>Jimmy>>Stern casanova>Yrliet>>Clumsy space elf >Idira>>Alcoholic witch>>Marzipan>>Stewie Griffin in space>No need to play the gameI don't actually believe this because it is hilariously off base if you do the idira one is accurate but she's a wine aunt specifically
>>538357530
>>538364154>LoremasterNot really a storyline and more of just knowing lore.
>>538365141It's all true. I am only going by osmosis from this general Sister Argenta >Cheerful sister of battle with very little brain Pasqal>Chud techpriest who owns the heretics with Facts and Logic Jae>Space gypsy who keeps making your gold reserves go down Kibellah >Goth waifu (no personality)Cassia>Sweetie who is kind to everyone but is easily upset Can't think of anyone else
That is kind of hot
Holly shitte dudes, multimillion dollar CRPG idea.WotR/Kingmaker style crpg with a home base but you send out multiple separate parties of characters + mercs to go out in the open world rather than just taking 5 out of your 25 possible companions with you, or using shitty "cards" and "armies" to solve problems. Obviously story-dependant acts like WotR Act 4 and story/companion-relevant locations like Ivory Sanctum stay the same.
>>538365917If you don't delete your saves and go visit the nice dudes down at the base of the hill in this zone after this fight, without resting, you're a chicken. Cheep cheep cheep! Chicken!
>>538366004We could even do one where you're in kind of a modern setting and have to send out "squads" to fight an enemy. Possibly even aliens?
I was going for the "It Itches" achievement, but the rash was actually cured like any other injury when I returned to the bridge lol. I think that's a bug because other playthroughs I've had to go to the chapel and pray to remove it. But when I'm actually trying to keep it, it is cured by accident/a bug. Classic owlcat. I also don't have the "kill 3 people with rend vision" achievement despite doing that several times this playthrough and my previous playthrough, with both the player character and Cassia, so that one is also bugged.I also don't have the "be self sufficient in the blood investigation" despite doing every stage myself and never skipping any of the stages by delegating it to Jocasta. I've done the dlc three times now without delegating anything and not getting the achievement, which leads me to believe you can't let any one do literally anything. So you can't let Pasqal convince the tech priest to give you access to the computer, you can't let the enforcer conduct the autopsy, you can't let Jocasta kill the cultist, etc. I think you have to do literally everything, even dialogue, yourself.One other achievement that has been elusive is to visit every optional location. I've played the game 4 times and I've gone to all the secret locations I know of like Incendia's stasis pod and the drukhari stash on the ice turret planet and the halo device noble and a ton of others. I really am at a loss for what I'm missing, I suppose I'll have to look that up online.I really don't want to get the two chaos achievements. There's one for beating the game as conviction chaos and one for surrendering Euphrates to chaos. A whole playthrough of being a retard just for some achievements.Biting 7 people in one turn with the mastiff will also take some figuring out. I've only bit like 4 people before running out of ap so there must be a trick to it.I'm so close, I'm excited to 100% this game.
>>538367860>you're in kind of a modern settingEWWWWWW!!!!!!!!
>>538368217Well if you don't like that we could always compromise and try the same thing with something more fantastical like super heroes.
>>538368217What about a 19th century setting
>>53836846219th century Europe-like setting is underused for crpgs. It's an age of revolutions and social upheavals, various factions and conflicts write themselves.
I just want WotR but a bit different.
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Insane CRPG idea.What if we take WotR, make it first person, introduce guns, and then set it in WW2.
>>538369007Don't worry star finder is coming out late 2026
>>538368770it is also the apex of White European supremacy and that's problematic sweaty
>>538369164Is there anything more unsatisfying than a gun in an rpg? You either hit and kill someone or you don't, people in real life aren't bullet sponges with 3000 hp and each bullet is 100 hp
>>538369978... anon remarked after his warrior just took a third lightning bolt to the face.
>>538369978Is there anything more unsatisfying than a sword in an rpg? You either hit and kill someone or you don't, people in real life aren't stab sponges with 3000 hp and each stab is 100 hp
>>538370287He could do that because of the fantasy of the siegfriedian faustian nietzschean overman warrior who defies the gods and stands victorious.But the entire concept of guns is that they're the great equalizer. A lightning bolt won't kill the warrior superman, but a gun will. Unless it's retarded capeshit.
Solasta is probably my second favorite combat fag game of all time, if they used any other system than 5e it would probably be my favorite combat fag game of all time. I hope after Solasta 2 the developers do a game with there own system or something else.
>>538369978>people in real life aren't bullet sponges with 3000 hpSpeak for yourself, kid
>>538370630You're about to OD on huffing your own farts, Mr. Peterson.
>>538371009>missing the point because of the language used
>>538370630>But the entire concept of guns is that they're the great equalizer.Literally only americans think like this.
*casts protection from normal missiles*
>>538371164Well europeans think that guns are this impossibly deadly scary violent murder weapon instead. Ask anybody what they think is scarier, the sound of thunder or the sound of a gunshot.
Wasteland has fun gun combat, I really liked the wierd science guns especially the sniper rifle that liquefies things.
>>538370630In the real world people survive gunshot wounds all the time. They're no more lethal than crossbows.
Sniper CHADS and rpg BVLLS>pistol betas and rifle cucks
>>5383719466 INT comment
O block the crpg, written by trap lore ross.
>>538371946We're not talking about the real world, faggot
No one but Americans take guns seriously.
>>538372520>people in real life aren't bullet sponges
small caliber might not immediately drop a larger person (adrenaline is a hell of a drug) but that doesn't mean they can "tank" bullets like in an rpg
>>538372759Explain 50 cent
>>538372759It will take a surprising amount of small caliber bullets to kill someone though.
>>538336404>TQCatgirls, but unfortunately western devs and writers aren't big on them (and if they were it'd be some Lovecraftian monstrosity that obsessed about pronouns).
>>538372954+20 to small arms resistance due to racial background
>>538372759there are multiple stories of people being shot over 20 times and surviving, the amount of punishment the human can eat is more than it should, most of the human body is not lethal spot as long as you avoid an artery, liver, heart, brain, and both lungs, going into shock has a higher chance of killing you
>>538373236kek
>dude can tank 15 shots from a gun and survive but being pierced by an arrow is an instant deathI hate this game trope so much
>>538373291That's more because of how wonky bullets work. I know this sounds like complete bullshit but it was a common story in one of the world wars that a man would be shot in the head in front of his comrades and stand back up. Wanna know why? The bullet bounced off part of the skull back out where it came.In comparison, if you get stabbed in the throat or any of your vital organs, you're just fucked.
>>538373369you know what i hate more, arrows doing anything against hard armor, or crossbows being effective>>538373382>stabbed in the throat or any of your vital organsi literally said that, you stupid retard
>>538373512>i literally said that, you stupid retardanon, read my post in full
>>538373291>I know a guy who made his saving throw against Finger of Death, that spell is basically worthless
>>538373590maybe you should, because nothing you said addresses anything
It's a good thing the human body can take 20 to 30 stabs before death
>>538373901if you're faggot roman senator that doesn't know where to stab, sure
>>538373512>you know what i hate more, arrows doing anything against hard armor, or crossbows being effectiveLongbows can penetrate plate armor thoughever.
>>538373512Do you want to volunteer for getting shot by a crossbow?
>>538373291Wow amazingHave you ever heard of someone being shot by a bullet and dying immediately?
>>538374040Longbows are a special case where the people who learned to fire them have deformed their fucking body to.I am not joking
>>538374040https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DBxdTkddHaEin hollywood maybe, but reality says no beyond 30 ft, the most you could do is against mail on gambeson and even then its a minor injury
My higher ethics and morality can easily stop a bullet.
>>538374380God, that is a big fucking dent. Goddamn. It would hurt like a bitch regardless.
That warrior won't be so cocky after I pull out my 7th flintlock pistol
>>538374574old guns really did suck
Okay since bg3 was a smash hit what is the next dnd game wizards will release? Spelljammer? Dragonlance? Oriental adventures? Ebberon? Council of Wyrms Mystara? Al-qadim?
>>538336404Dunmer because they're pretty much the only race that was ever given an interesting backstory (Chimer, War of the First Council), interesting politics (Great Houses inspired by Israeli tribes, settler/nomadic Ashlander split), interesting religion (Daedra/Tribunal), interesting culture/customs (slavery, Morag Tong), a distinct voice (until it was retconned) and aren't manlets. They're the closest any RPG race ever got from breaking with Tolkeinesque tropes and archetypes without being outright silly (like the Argonians & Khajiit).
>>538374524not really because youre wearing gambeson or arming doublet underneath, that absorbs the leftover energy
>>538372759Okay, but the exact same is true about bladed weapons and primitive muscle-propelled projectile weapons. Realistically a d20 warrior should not be able to shrug off getting hit with a sword, but the way hit points work a high-level human could get stabbed tens of times and be completely fine.
>>538374380That's enough of an impact to knock a rider from his horse, breaking his neck in the process or allowing him to be mobbed by peasant infantry. Remember the flower of French nobility were slain in their armour by longbowmen at Agincourt.
>/crpgg/ - Warfare & Firearms
>>538374882There is no better way to do it while still relying on dice rolls. I haven't played it but I understand Dark Heresy is a particularly lethal system and that's one of the reasons it didn't get a wider following.
They updated Expeditions war minigame and it still doesn't make any sense
>>538375067The dice rolls should represent dodging or your armor absorbing the blow. Any actual contact means death.
>>538374040.45 ACP cannotGunfags BTFO
>>538374937no, they werent knocking over a 250 lb man with an arrow. the mud is what killed the french
>>538374882You shouldn't take any of these combat systems so literally. Just like how AC can be anything from a dodge to a glancing blow HP damage doesn't actually have to represent you taking serious damage unless the game has an actual wounds system.
>>538374937>Remember the flower of French nobility were slain in their armour by longbowmen at Agincourt.This stupid myth againPeople confuse the fictional Agincourt from Shakespeare's Henry V with the irl Agincourt.The longbowmen forced the knights to dismount and struggle through mud, under constant physical impact from arrow strikes. This caused them to tire and fall easily to pikemen. Few knights were killed directly by an arrow penetrating their armor.>>538374524>It would hurt like a bitch regardless.Yes and that's why the French knights at Agincourt lost, getting beaten up by arrow strikes.
>>538375223Okay, let's play that game. Fall damage in Pathfinder caps out at 20d6. If you have more than 60 hit points (average for an 8th level fighter with 14 CON), you will survive a fall at terminal velocity so long as the damage roll is average.If your GM lets you take the max HP roll at every level, then at 10th level that fighter with 14 CON has 120 HP, meaning that he cannot die from fall damage, unless the GM rules that the ground rolled 20 sixes in a row. Even then, he'd only be unconscious at 0 hit pointsSo what literal situation is the combat system representing here? Is the fighter actually dodging the ground? Was it only a glancing fall?
>>538375801You gain 1 inch of fat with each level. His fat cushioned the impact.
>>538375801Why did you say that you were going to play that game and then proceeded to not only not play that game but get even more autistic about it
>>538375258That makes more sense.
Lol, this random NPC has the same haircut as Kibellah
>>538375258Everyone knows that when you get hit really hard and it doesn't penetrate your armor you feel nothing.
>>538375801Abstraction is moot at this point and the Fighter breaks every bone in his body and becomes a chunky puddle
>>538375067The better way is to make wounds incredibly dangerous, but also make characters easy to replace.Like Liberal Crime Squad. Sure, losing your entire party in a single firefight with the cops isn't even uncommon. Which is why you ensure you have a spare party before you get into a firefight.
>>538374786BG4.
>arguing about realistic combat in a game where you're always playing PCs with superhero tier stats
>>538376173Not according to the rules he doesn't. He's prone after the fall, but not in any way incapacitated. He spends one move action getting up and then walks away on his own two feet.And then he stubs his toe and instantly dies, because he only had one hitpoint left.
>>538376241>The better way is to make wounds incredibly dangerous, but also make characters easy to replace.That's more-or-less XCOM. I enjoy XCOM a lot but it's not a roleplaying game. You can't roleplay in a satisfying way if you're constantly churning through characters. There needs to be a credible threat of death but a decent average life expectancy for party members. This goes doubly so for CRPGs because without a player roleplaying a party member, you have to write the character ahead of time. How many extra characters are you going to write to serve as replacements in your incredibly lethal system?
>>538376280i like the way AoD did ityou can still be an absolute killing machine with enough training and unironic "i'm sure to win because my speed is superior"
>>538376280It's not about realism, it's about fun. Permadeath makes combat fun by raising the stakes, but it's unsatisfying in general due to the way these games are written - unless you don't care at all about the story companions and are happy to play with interchangeable mercenaries/hirelings/etc.I don't think there's a happy medium between the traditional CRPG approach, in which death is just another temporary status effect and anything less than a total party wipe is just an inconvenience, and the XCOM approach where you're expected to lose significant numbers of characters throughout the game and permadeath is a core part of the design.
>>538376632Just change the names in romance dialogue depending on which disposable mook you're talking to, it'll be fine.
I will not roleplayYou can't make me
whoever told me to play iron tower games, i hope you get canceri could've spent that time doing anything else those games are shit
>>538377548What's wrong with age of decadence?
>>538377548You've probably put hundreds of hours into playing owlslop. Don't pretend your time has value.
>>538377548Based and true, not that I ever played them though.
>>538377623>post apocalypse BAD>romansBAD>sci-fi and interdimensional aliens THREE STRIKES YOU ARE OUT
>>538377548how much time
>>538377842wut
Fighter/mage multiclass is still the best feeling gish with the smoothest levelling curve in any crpg
Why are so many companion NPCs in Owlcat games just so unlikeable?I'm 20 hours into Kingmaker and I've kicked every party member out that I could except Jaethal to make my own mercenaries.Its annoying I can't kick out Linzi and Tristian at all, too.
>>538378695It feels extremely overpowered if you solo it in BG1.
crpg but it's a modern setting where roman empire didn't collapseroman legions instead of marine corpsromans launching Mars guided missiles on mudhuts
>>538378835Age of decadence 2?
>>538378746most people are annoying and unlikeable so it's realistic
>>538377842>I intentionally played a game about post-apocalyptic Romans and interdimensional sci-fi aliens even though I hate all those things! How could this be happening to me!?
>>538378931You're not wrong, however in past CRPGs I felt it was more common to like most companions with the unlikeable ones being an exception.
>>538378695no>>538378765eww
Why does no one point out the Romans in AoD are Arabs for some reason and the invading barbarians were Mexicans?
>>538379249Post anything that beats it
>>538379369Romans were the original muttoids
>>538379369Their leader is literally called the khan and they look like this, you might be face blind and historically illiterate.
>>538379659Anon, I'm talking about the Qantari, not the Ordu.
>>538379471Kensai -> Mage dual class
>>538379737Yes they are Aztecs, Vince believes in the ancient aliens built the pyramids theory.
>>538379887kek
>>538379369Considering Arabs conquered a lot of the Eastern Roman Empire and the Visigoths settled in Spain, which then on went to colonize Mexico...
>>538379867>dual class levelling bullshit>kensaiNo
>>538379369It mentions they came from across the sea, aztec aliens gods gave mexicans 1950's ship technology to beat the romans.
>>538380064cope
>>538379369> the invading barbarians were Mexicans?You need to get to the end of Dungeon Rats or open that one door in Al Akia to learn that out.
I hope the bronze age game they are making is a prequel to AOD because there is so much crazy lore shit that needs to be explained.
>>538380401Not really?>4th dimensional beings fucked shit up>empire fell apart because everything was nuked to shit fighting them>technology and infrastructure deteriorates as the magi are woefully in short supply to maintain and teach literal interdimensional mechanics>Noble Houses too focused on killing each other over who gets what's left to unite the empire>Imperial Guard is simultaneously too pussy to take matters into their own hands and too retarded for the Nobles to negotiate with>People get ever more ignorant as they are separated from one another and just flat out don't have the same frame of mind as their ancestors, manuscripts forced to rewrite ions as aeon to try and get them to understand some alternate reality nuclear reactor mechanics
>>538380773We are still missing alot of details unless I missed something for example why the fuck do the aliens even give a shit about us in the first place? They are willing to nuke eachother to death over us so we must be important for something?
>>538380982>Vietnam must be really important for both the US and the USSR to be fighting over it
>>538380982Balzaar has a compulsive desire to control everything and has all the other gods piss scared of it. Agathoth realized where he and the others were nobodies in the void, they can be something in our reality. >>538381121pretty much this
>>538378746I like half of them and really dislike 2-3 per game, so dunno
So has this general finally stopped being contrarian and acknowledged that bg3 is a good crpg?
I hope the inevitable hyborian age crpg includes lots of rape and slavery
>>538382727I never played it so it must be bad.
>>538376641Age of Decadence felt more like a puzzle than a crpg.There was one optimal path of skill allocation and dialogue choice that allowed you to reach the necessary skills required to pass the meaningful checks.You spam new runs until you figure it out and then you're able to progress.Even if you go full combat-tard the only thing you're really changing is what weapon you're using. You still need to know when to upgrade secondary skills and at what time in order to branch off of the default storylines into the higher tier ones.
>>538382727Its a great crpg if you're a normie.
>>538382727I'm not a huge fan of it but it still mogs owlslop.
>>538382727Take away the production value - the VA, the high-fidelity graphics, and the combat sound & visual effects - and you're left with a bad game.Its best qualities are the environmental reactivity in combat and the open-endedness of acts 1 and 3.
>>538382727It suffers from your typical scummy Larian scummy practice, extremely front loaded ACT 1 and then everything just start to fall apart near the end Also that game's romances are so so so so so very shit
Bg3 should have taken some lessons from sawyer and made wyll a woman.
>>538383281>normie
>>538383737Sorry, trannies also love it, I forgot.
>>538383796Newfag
You know you've made a truly good CRPG when the entire core audience is alienated and the people celebrating your game don't even play it or any other CRPG's.
>>538383962Bg3 has literally caused a second crpg Renaissance similarly to what pillars did.
Speaking of Pillar, how is pic related? I will never play it because of the first person perspective shooter shit but is the plot atleast decent?
>>538384053>crpg RenaissanceWhat? Where?
>>538384053A renaissance of fags and trannies, yeah, its great.
>tell him he's a tyrant>"I will kill you, demon, and return Drezen to its rightful masters!">tell him his village's anti-demon runestones are fake>"I agree to let my guards go an investigate your accusation. Well done for luring them away. Nevertheless, attack!"I don't think I've ever seen a more inexplicably braindead encounter. This is worse than Bethesda dialogue. What were they thinking?
>>538384283You weren't born yet when pillars came out, don't worry about it
nobody would give a shit about arueshalae if she didn't have her irresistible sexy wings and she's well aware of this
>>538384912I only care about her hands.
Kibellah's voice is not "cold" or "raspy"
>>538378746It's not all on Owlcat's shoulders, it feels more like all RPG devs feel the need to fill the party with quirky or snowflake characters as if they think people can't connect to them if they were Joe the human fighter or Dave the alcoholic dwarf. It's been going on since Baldur's Gate 2, at least. And then there are devs who I think aim for the maximum fan engagement and go overboard with the cast of snowflakes (looking at Baldur's Gate 3 here) or intentionally want to go against the grain... and go overboard with the cast of snowflakes (KOTOR 2, Pillars of Eternity, Mask of the Betrayer, etc.)
Did people also seethe about BG2 making rpgs more accessible
>>538387283Not really, they just enjoyed how much more personality the characters had
>>538376241At that point, why not just play proper wargames?
>>538386479I do see there's annoying quirkiness in BG2's cast, but it isn't just quirkiness that I'm getting at, I think, since I still find Minsc tolerable.It isn't really that they're snowflakes either. Its that they seem to be written obnoxiously. I just got to encountering Jubilost for instance and he's incredibly offputting. I know these games lately let you attack some of these party members outright at least, and I could remove Jubilost from the party after recruiting him, but I feel as though the game would've been better without the character in the first place as it doesn't fit my character's roleplay to just attack everything written obnoxiously.>KOTOR 2...Mask of the BetrayerI don't remember feeling that way about KotOR 2 and Mask though its been some time since I played them, I might have to go through them again to see if its my tastes that changed.In Pillars however I didn't feel this way but I did feel bored by the characters outside of Aloth, Eder and Grieving Mother, instead of completely put off or irritated like I do with later crpgs.
>>538384198skyrim is better apparently
>>538389190It's a bit silly how in Kotor 2 literally everyone becomes a jedi, except HK-47
>>538384198I just find it really unpleasant to look at. It looks like a funky ENB made by someone with brain damage.
I don't think I'll ever understand mercenaryfags
>>538386479Companions in Mask fit quite well with the narrative thobeit
>>538389897Replacing the party with mercenaries is to do with still getting some fun out of building my own party ala IWD because the default game companions were too unlikeable to enjoy the experience with. Its not ideal because it loses a lot of companion quests and companion commentary but if the companions are irritating then I'd rather not have those things than have them and be annoyed. But I do like those things, were they done well.
>>538389190I don't have a problem with Minsc either, since he's the comedic relief character, but comparing the recruitable people in BG1 and BG2, the cast turning quirkier is easy to spot. How many people remember people like Ajantis, Kivan, Branwen or Yeslick (ISO standard paladin, angry ranger, cleric you had to know how to recruit in the first place, the most milquetoast dwarf priest in Faerun), for example? In 2, it seems that everyone has a personality quirk that's blown out of proportions. The druid is a werewolf, Jan is a gnome who keeps banging on about turnips and his family, Aerie is the rarest sort of elf from across the world and is all about her wings, Haer'dalis is an urban fantasy stereotype from another plane, etc. Even the characters I like have this laser-like fixation on something and they won't stop: Keldorn and his duty, Nalia and her CG ways of trying to make things better, Mazzy and her dead fiancee (all right I can give her that because that sort of shit would suck).When it comes to KOTOR 2, I mean that every party member was so completely aimed at turning the normal, KOTOR 1 style party (your Han, Chewie, R2, etc.) on its head. There's Kreia - basically a mouthpiece for Avellon to voice what he think sucks in SW - for a first, the galaxy's worst Sith ever (Visas), the Han is now an edgy ex-assassin, a droid crime boss, etc.
Imagine relying on companions that are already premade for you. Grow a spine and build your own party.
>>538386479crpg devs realized that giving you a variety of different companions that represent different parts of the lore or have some connection to the plot is a better way to do exposition and get you invested in the story than dry info dumps
>>538382727Good is a fair assessment. Worth playing once you've exhausted all the other options.It has a ton of flaws though.
>>538385059wtf how powerful are succuhands?
>>538389897I'm old, I've been playing these games since they were about making 6 people and dumping them butt naked on the pier in the harbour of Phlan. The best way I can explain why I like the create your own party style of playing is that doing that gives me the feeling of playing *my* characters, not people someone else has already written for me. It's why I loved Solasta's "you can't believe the bullshit that happened to me on the way here" opening, current tech actually can give yourdudes some more personality instead of having to hunt for Elmore or Caldwell art for the next Icewind Dale party.
>>538390776I can see your point, Haer'dalis and Aerie especially, as well as the trope subversion in KotOR 2.I think it just didn't cross my threshold for irritation so I still liked those even though it was creeping in since then, as you point out. Until we get to present day where it feels every new character is blown out like the writers got all their material from literal RP chatrooms and VTT campaigns instead of fleshing things out more professionally, at least with Owlcat.
>>538391946On the other hand, everyone was pretty normal in RT
>>538368010>Biting 7 people in one turn with the mastiff will also take some figuring out.I did this one on that planet with the infinitely respawning Necrons. Basically what I did was have Biomancer Idira give an extra turn with metabolic overcharge to Solomorne, since her psy rating was in the 20's he got 20 something AP, in order to avoid the self damage I had Solomorne end his turn by using Entrench, this stores your current AP until you use Run N' Gun. Finally when Solomorne's actual turn came I used Run N' Gun and had like 30 AP to order the dog around. The it was just a matter of biting 7 Necrons and that was it.
Imagine attacking 7 times in a single turn.
>>538392640I get 3-4 attacks with both Yrliet and Jae but not more than that usually
I fucking hate Dark EldarSince they love pain so much, I think giving a bunch of them to Slaanesh was doing them a favor.
>>538393068I saved Marazhai this playthrough and he's surprisingly dull. Doesn't react too much to things that should interest him like meeting Tervantias again or that frozen planet with the deldar
>>538392019On the contrary, I found Jae, Idira, and Marazhai completely offputting as well as a many of the non-companion/lesser-NPC writing in various scenes.Ulfar almost crossed the threshold for me too. I found Pasqal boring though felt he had potential. I didn't like that genestealer engineer either. The late chapter optional companions I felt should've been fleshed out better but that's maybe a different topic.I would say they did better with Rogue Trader by comparison to their pathfinder games but its still present, its more half and half there. I haven't tried the new arbites dlc though I'm not too into arbites as a faction so I'm not very inclined to get it.
>>538393330The Arbites DLC has a cool ship boarding section and medieval planet but the companion is pretty dull
>>538393330I found the Footfall crew to be incredibly annoying. Like OC that the authors expected us to find fascinating.>Octaviana>Ryzza>Vladaym>Jae's gangThey insisted upon themselves.
>>538393185Only thing he really seems to have going for him is his VA. I just did his quests for him and didn't really bring him along much at all past Act 3.
>>538393563I think 'insisting on themselves' is an apt description for the problem with a lot of these characters.
>>538393330>Ulfar almost crossed the thresholdI benched that windbag
>>538393984Its easy to avoid picking him up entirely at least
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1wU3T21HapIAny game you're looking forward to (not you Solasta 2 anon)?
>>538394252Swordhaven and solasta 2
>>538336404>Favorite fantasy race?virgin females
>>538393730Embarrassing
>>538394557So basically Aerie and no one else.
It honestly annoys me how Skald is just a better bard 99% of the time. Bard has only 2 advantages: competence bonus for ranged attackers and fascinate. Both are much better in Kingmaker than they are in Wrath, too. Especially with Best Jokes now working. Skald even has a better character model.
>>538395308I will try Skald when I finally get around to Wrath of the Righteous. Linzi was invaluable in Kingmaker from beginning to end.
>>538387572For some reason proper wargames never let you have sex with your units.
Would you say the CRPGs are your favourite genre of video games?
>>538395450She was so useful that when I replayed the game I made my MC as a bard. If you want your MC to be a Skald in Wrath, I'd recommend one of the mythic paths that Synergize with it, which are Azata and Demon. Otherwise, you can hire a merc or use a respect mod to make Daeran or Arue a Bard or Skald.
>>538382727The only one ITT who can run bg3 is froggy and he hates it.
>>538390776I use Branwen pretty much every time I play. I would also use Kivan if he didn't have the annoying timed quest.
>>538397358I have a very nice pc that I use to play 20 year old games
You know, i realized that even though the theme of sex is touched upon alot, this is the first time i saw "fuck" in WOTR
>>538393330Ulfar was fucked by nu-40k Space Wolves fluff. Unfortunately they're about the only chapter you could have him belong to and also be part of a Rogue Trader's retinue for any length of time. So Owlcat's hands were tied there and I don't blame them for leaning fully into the characterisation that was essentially dictated to them. What's particularly stupid is that Dark Heresy includes rules for a Grey Knight, so they could have ditched the Space Marine for RT and included another heretical/xenos character.Jae is a nothingburger and a disappointment considering all the possibilities the setting offers. Keeping Idira around is realistically unconscionable after the first warp event. Marazhai is highly optional and if we were in a pre-internet age I bet most players would still kill him at the first opportunity without even realising he can be recruited.
I dont like this faggot but he is really dangerously based
Marazhai is very questionable as a companion. Heretical but not chaos aligned. What sort of person would keep him around? I guess a deviant or psychopath.
>>538399013>Keeping Idira around is realistically unconscionable after the first warp event.You get fucking demonic summonings within your ship every 3 warp jumps, and the Void Shadows dlc includes you willingly ripping open the barrier between the warp and real space within one of the most critical chambers in your ship.
>>538399195>What sort of person would keep him around?A Rogue Trader who cares about nothing but showing off to others that they've got a xenos pet.Rogue Traders are supposed to be vain like that.
>>538399173>these problems can be rectified, of course, but to do that, we will nee to drive the blacksWas that really necessary Paralictor?
And also, while this is metagaming, RP is the only reason to recruit him, as Marazhai is the only character that is legitimately useless. His entire build philosophy does not work in the game's combat system. He does nothing.
>>538399173Any time you start to feel Regill has a point and maybe he knows how to run things better, remember the Hellknights were and still are during the game the most ineffective of all the forces fighting in the Crusades, that need your help not just to get anything done but even to survive, and that his entire questline AND Sosiel's questline is exclusively about the Hellknights inconveniencing you or failing to pull their weight.
>>538399195Devs planned dialogues for 3 convictions and an unaligned conman trader. You meet him at the end of the game.
>>538399195A rogue trader
>>538399945>commander, we need reinforcements, should we hire mercenaries or increase the draft?>Regill: ARM THE WAR ORPHANSTheir nation is built on devil worship so they choose the most comically evil route every time.
>>538399215Yes, all based on my decisions as the Lord Captain pertaining to insight expenditure and quest choices. An unstable psyker losing her marbles during one of the first warp jumps of my captaincy gets the flamer or the airlock.
>>538399762there is no RP reason to ever take marazhaiit requires actual mental gymnastics
>>538384053It's been 2 years since bg3 and no big crpgs were released or announced in that time aside from rogue trader that was in development since wotr.
>>538401235It makes sense to pick him while you're still trapped in Commorragh, because having a local, and a Dracon on top of that, on your side is a big asset. But after that you're supposed to kick him out of an airlock or feed him to Jimmy.
>>538384053>BG3 clones: 0>DE clones: a gorillion
>>538384283Look at all the fools getting excited for Solasta 2 just because it's based on 5E
>>538401413>having a local, and a Dracon on top of that, on your side is a big asset.literally how?just shoot themwhy are you trying to make friends in assrape cityyou might as well just let Slaanesh in at that point
>>538399945Damn, you are playing a different game than me then.
>>538401648I'm trying to think in-character here, not what happens in-game. You're trapped in hostile territory with no outside help. A local who previously held a very high position of power finds himself trapped in a very similar situation to your own and is willing to form a temporary alliance. Having a local on your side is a great asset because they can help you understand the territory and the culture, you could also have them act as a diplomat of sorts, should the need arise.
>>538401995>diplomat in Commorraghidk famiglia sounds like some kind of cuckold mental gymnastics to me
>>538338956Mine in bg3 after seeing all the gay shit
>>538402282Curb your dogmatard tendencies for a second. I'm not even saying you should *always* recruit Marazhai if you're all about purging the xenos for the emprah 100% of the time. But rather that a temporary alliance until you escape Commoragh makes sense in-character if you're playing a pragmatist or an Iconoclast. Beyond that I agree with you and there is almost no reason to keep Marazhai alive beyond just wanting to see all his content.
>>538336404Degenerates will look at this thing with its hairy feet and go AWOOOGA PLEASE LET HER BE ROMANCEABLE
>>538365576
>>538402809And you're the one who typed that out and started the discussion.
thinking of replaying underrail for like the 10th timeGive me a fun build
>>538403073Chem pistols warcrimes.
>>538403072I've seen it happen too many times before sorry
>>538402809Yes, and?
>>538403141that is actually my favourite and most used build
>>538402783'Precarious co-operation' between Eldar and humanity is an old trope of 40k, so Yrliet make sense. Eldar are supposed to have mysterious and enigmatic aims which may occasionally align with the Imperium's, particularly against Chaos.But a Dark Eldar is a step too far, unless GW have nuked the fluff again since I wasn't looking. It was a dumb choice. They should have had the Dark Heresy Kroot, or a Tau, or a Lacrymole or some other underused non-faction Xenos race. They should haveg given RT all the Xenos companions and saved the SoB and the Space Marine for Dark Heresy.
Skitarii GF confirmed again.
>>538402809feetfags deserve the rope
>>538403735>still no DaemonhostLiterally what are they doing
>>538403785And midgetfags don't?
Halflings are for chilling and drinking beer and eating with, not for lewd.
Yes, as a matter of fact I did sneakily shoot all of her eggs with Astarion before the combat even started so that her legendary action would become useless.
>>538403934>chilling and drinking beerHeroic activities for sure, get the fuck out of my party/game
>>538403735I'm sorry but how are we supposed to know if we want to romance this?
>>538403934As Larian's statistics showed, nobody wants to play as a gnome or a halfling. They should be non-playable and non-party characters. Dwarves just about get a pass because high-test angry underground super-craftsmen, etc.
>>538404325Kung-Fu Grip
>>538404502Larian fucked up their proportions and they've always had shit stats in D&D
>>538365917There are people that want to save and help minagho because they feel bad for her.
>>538404124Kek, and you even get the cheevio for killing her before she hatches the eggs lmao
>>538404124praying for your failure so you get humbled but you'll probably google each legendary action so you're never at risk like the cheater you are
Do people really hate Jae? Why?
>instant latrineslurper meltylol>thinking his kiddieshit game poses any challenge to a trve veteran of the genrelmao
>>538405248because most of this site is terrified of brown people, women, and shameless slutsshe checks the meltdown trigger checkboxes
>namecallingwe must be better men
>>538405379>brown>woman>shameless slutWe love Isabela though?
>>538405565She'll be treated worse if she came out in <current year> let's be honest.
shameless sluts > sluts getting mad when called out > holier than thou sluts pretending to be pure
>>538405565sorry to say it but those of us that played through DA2 have different standards
>>538405248>middle aged>slut>liar>thief>weird portraitpick one
>>538384053A shitty weg not even on the level of honiepop cannot cause a "crpg Renaissance", kid.
>>538405248I just hate gypsies
the success of BG3 made Owlcat switch to fully voiced gamesyw Owlbabs
>>538406262>"forced" them to go into being fully voiced>every other RTWP crpg embarrassingly bent the knee and added Turn Based even if it doesn't make sense
>>538406262thanks for bloating the filesize for a bunch of agonizingly slow voiceovers I'll skip anyways lariantards
>>538405248The game kind of presents a bad picture of what a Rogue Trader's crew is like by throwing a bunch of loyalists at you in act 1 so a criminal that helps you make trade deals with the different factions feels like the outlier. Also her situation when you recruit her should be made more clear to the player so you know it's just dick measuring within a gang on Footfall and everyone is a criminal including the guards that come to arrest her at the end.Shoulda had something like Octavia let you ask about the situation from a third party's perspective and flatly spell out that everyone is in the same criminal org and after Jae lost support from her last patron (Mercy) one of her rivals (Falco) got the go ahead from Vlad to steal all her shit.
Whoever put mandatory stealth missions in Rogue Trader, fuck you.
>>538406471like I said, yw BITCH
Bg3 won so hard they are adding a turn based mode to pillars 1.
>>538406683I heard they might even go back and make a BG1 and 2 as prequels. twice
No, Astarion, you're not getting the Skeleton Baking Manual. I'm the dedicated Necromancer this time around.
Why did they give him such a punchable face? He looks like a mix between a "Badass Chef" and a upper class punk star, and a bit of Thor from the MCU.They just had to copy and paste William Wallace.
>>538409053It is the mouth. Also i woulda prefer them giving him a dad bod / dwarf like proportion. Not this gay lean muscled shit
>>538409053All they had to do was not have the side of his head be shaved.
>>538403735>>538403823Pretty good odds that the Skitarii is female. Only 2 more male companion slots and I assume one is reserved for a Space Marine. Bet the other one is reserved for a daemonhost too since they seem to be mostly depicted as male.
>>538409053>>538409435>>538409451You spend a lot of time thinking about men and how they should be more fuckable, don't you?
Daemonhost makes more sense as a "secret" companion no??
>>538409053I always thought he was a big bara dude, but looking at his portrait he's very lean and athletic. If you imagine his face without a beard he also has fairly sharp and somewhat feminine features. Interesting.
>>538409569https://tenor.com/view/boner-binoculars-computer-gif-21314357
>>538409774Depends on if it's properly bound. Tyrantine Cabal has a bunch of Radicals in it because they are looking to prevent the Tyrant Star prophecy by any means.
>>538409569
>>538405248Goes too hard on her arabian nights shtick.
>>538405565That game didn't give you much choice for straight romance.
>>538411801>A choice between a whore and an autistic 13 year old (elf)Thanks Bioware
>>538403735>>538409569Wait you're telling me I finally get to romance Khepra???
>>538411801I think you're conflating the availability of choices with how a choice is appealing on its own. Isabela would be fine even if she were the only romance.
All romancefags can do is whine
>>538412172>autistic 13 year old (elf)seems like a no brainer choice really
I just got my Slayer to level 3 and now he is double sneaking attacking whenever he attacks. What a champ.
non-romancefags talk about the portraits of men and how they would be more sexy without the side shave
>>538412743Well what we know so far is that a bunch of Skitarii are gonna show up and there's an Admech companion with a romance.
>sneak attackingREAL MEN FIGHT HEAD ONANNOUNCE YOUR PRESENCE ON THE BATTLEFIELDROAR LIKE A MIGHTY LIONafter prebuffing of course
>>538413815No that’s waifufags still mad that Ulbrig is a “homo” instead of a waifu
>>538414092ok faglord
What alignment is homosexuality?
>>538414161Still mad about Solormone too I take it
>>538414479Lawful evil
>>538414479Chaotic Neutral.
>>538413814so much for an extremely situational bonus that goes away eventually
>>538414479CE if they're men, CG if they're women
>>538414479gayotic gleeful
>>538401593I think most people who are actually excited about Solasta 2 are so because they liked 1, not because BG3 introduced the wonders of DnD 5th edition
>>538415564I think you're wrong
>>538339112my hope is for a cute water caste diplomat
>>538415851I really think I am right.The things that excite casual faggots in BG3 are larianisms and extensive environmental manipulation that Solasta does not entertain as much
>>538414983In Pathfinder you just need to be flanking to activate sneak attacks. It seems really powerful.
Does a pyro psyker make sense for a dogmatic playthrough or would something else fit better? I was thinking of making a melee pyro rather than a pure caster.
>>538416361Aside from maybe Criminal origin background, I feel you could make every other homeworld, origin and class fit Dogmatic.Same for most alignment paths. Even a Priest can fall to Chaos or whatever.
>>538416008>casual faggotsYou just described the target audience of 5E. A child could pick it up. You think the people who watch CR and have a passing knowledge of the rules are hardcore gamers?
anyone has a better screenshot of Kibbles wearing this armor?
>>538414029Remembering how in WotR your fighter types could be so roided with buffs that their character portraits were covered with those little symbols and how their supersized, stony form could be seen radiating magic from the orbit, this rings true.
>>538396928I play them the most
>>538416723DnD has been picked up by dozens millions regardless, it was never really as hardcore as we'd like to think, especially when we crossed the millenium. But returning to the vidya context, Solasta will not have companions to get bear sex on with, so that is another thing that will not attract casuals. I have seriously not seen any indication that BG3 has led to a resurgence of people appreciating DnD ruleset for vidya and wanting more of that specifically, instead of nearly everything else BG3 actually offers
>>538336773based Heem poster
This is what a true warrior looks like.
>>538417479What emotion is this?
>>538417060>Local Anon is "Fucking invincible!!!"
Romance Jae
what if the golden ending of The Infinite Museion is breaking the Loyalist Fulgrim clone out of prison/display case?
>>538417554fury/desperation
>>538417554Russian meth addict
>>538417579I've heard people complain about pre-buffing in Baldur's Gate, but, honestly, you can just not bother most of the time.
>>538402937
>>538403934The Priest of Sheela Peryroyl looks like she fucks
>>538418067It depends on which BG. In ToB you'll probably want to pre-buff a lot.
desu I love prebuffing but I hate wasting spell slots on buffs and hate the short duration of those buffs even moreby the time I achieve my super saiyan form the other buffs are either already gone or about to be gone
>>538417579>haste>improved hastethis stacks?
>>538417774>Jaethis is actually one of my biggest concerns for the upcoming dark heresy game nlg: theres not enough freaky women. In RT Jae was the most normal woman in the party and even SHE was a cyborg scam artist. But the only woman we've seen so far is some boring doctor chick
>>538419202Jae and Idira are womanlets.
>>538419202
>>538419202This is inaccurate.Cassia and Kibellah should be towering over everyone else and Yrliet should be slightly taller than even that.
>>538419202Give the doctor chick a chance, it kinda looks like half her face is burned off and she's an inquisitorial surgeon.
My pet dog is more useful than my Druid.
>>538419202You have seen two women, one being a Kroot.Calm your tits
>>538420698>two swings>two misses>in a game where we only get 10 companions with half of them being guysGrim portents.
>>538421330I can’t coom to men it’s over
>>538421330In what universe does a kroot not qualify as freaky by default?Not to mention that the chirurgeon may end up weird/freaky anyway
>>538422636When Daemonculaba is vanilla.
>>538403073I want to like Underrail, but it seems like such a lonely game to play. Not even a dog to accompany you. No companion to banter with.
There's not a single attractive companion in Dark Heresy. Owlkeks have betrayed their incel audience just as they have betrayed the fluffy tail connoisseurs.
>>538409053That's one zesty man.
>>538421430weak, step up your coom game
Is it worth getting 5 levels into fighter just to replace a light-weapon off hand with a one-handed off-hand? Like, the difference between a scimitar and a handaxe is basically just the crit range.
>>538420698>>538422636the cannibalism part is promising but the images we've seen so far dont inspire Wenduag energy baka
1d8 average of 4.5, 1d6 average of 3.5, unless the 1d8 weapon has better enchantments than the 1d6 it barely matters at al. Power attack bonus is halved regardless of weapon weight type, too.
>>538424682Crit range is one of the very few weapon characteristics that matters (because getting around it via keen doesn't let you get mythic improved crit).Why do you need 5 levels in fighter, though? You can take weapon proficiencies as feats with anyone.
>>538422891>There's not a single attractive companion in Dark Heresy.Lore accurate 40k, all the attractive ones did in the whorus heresy
>>538425824Effortless dual wield.
>>538422636Two misses. There's no room for discussion here.
>>538424706Well yeah, she does not look like a retard and may actually behave more liek a hunter
Is Dark Heresy Radical alignment gonna be "path to hell is paved with good intentions" or delusional chaos worshiper ?
>>538426643Wait for the game to come out.
>>538426643Spectrum of Radical/Puritan. As for game implementation, reactivity to specific choices, and how far you lean into either or don't, determines reactions , is my guess
Iconoclast for most choices and Dogmatic for a few big choices.
>>538426132Oh, I see what you are saying. The hit penalty is worth taking in order to have a high crit range waepons that both benefit from your feat improvements. It is only -2 with the mythic. Though actually using two weapons before getting mythic two weapon fighting may not be a great idea on hard. Dual scimitars or rapiers is the way to go.
>>538426643The idea of a Radical inquisitor is just a fleshing out of the old Buckminster Fuller quote: "Those who play with the Devil's toys will be brought by degrees to wield his sword." There's endless ways to make a corruption story compelling, if the writers are up to the task. The presence of Black Science Lady and yet-another-fucking-Eldar unfortunately indicates that they are, however, not.Alternatively you could write a compelling path in which a radical does in fact resist the temptations of Chaos effectively and achieves some great deed his puritan counterparts could not, albeit making some enormous personal sacrifice in the process perhaps.
>>538426643If it's anything like the tabletop game, there's going to be a spectrum on how mad you are ranging from "slightly" to "Oblationist".
>>538427016>It is only -2 with the mythic.Yeah but idk a character wouldn't wield an off-hand one-handed weapon if he didn't know how to do it properly, in universe
>>538427414>the presence of Black Science LadyHow does the presence of a tech human in the retinue affect that?
>get to ship combat>quit gameWhy has every fucking side mechanic they've added gotten worse? I don't want to play your shitty get chased around simulator whilst being unable to attack.
How do people build characters around the exotic weapons in WotR? I'm most of the way through the game now and I swear I have never seen some of the weapon types.
>>538427650Ship combat is the best though
>>538427650Naval combat is better than crusade mode
>>538427669Well, as the only mundane characteristic that matters is critical range, this means that you either take Exotic Weapon Proficiency Kukri or Fauchard at level 1 or 2 depending on how you are getting it. Then you play your dual wield or two handed character as normal.
>>538427669Dueling Sword (Drezen Paladin) + Estoc (Arueshalae Quest Hag) dual wield faggots represent
>>538427763>>538427854You could just use Setsuna and ignore the entire mechanic. This is way worse since you're forced to engage with it.
>>538427872What I mean is there are so many different weapon types you can pick feats for, but half of those weapons don't actually seem appear in the game.
>>538427669Drezen merchants alone cover a fuck lot.I just made a mental note first run over a few cool items, like some monk sais/quartestaffs, cuved elven blade, fauchard etc.Plus finnean is always there
Why didn't they make the crusade mini game a heros of might and magic clone? Aren't they slavs they should be able to do that in their sleep.
>>538427650Agree ship combat is terrible. I wouldn't mind it if they would just give us the ability to skip it like they do with the Pathfinder minigames.
>>538427990Even with a mage general, you need to bother with stacks for some bigger armies especially if you do not ywant to waste months trung to rest to restore MP plus covering the capital from invading army. It's still a hassle.And ship combat is actually good, not just discount HoMM 5 against 95% inferno enemeis with your progress resseting.
>>538428028Finnean can only be transformed into a minority of the weapon types
>>538428109The people at owlcat are fake slavs.
Why not rename this general into /ocg/ since 90% of the discussion is about WotR+RT? honest question
>>538428210He transforms into whatever profs the wielder has, IIRC
I liked the ship combat and some of the battles are actually challenging. What's worthless is the silly colony management system which effectively plays itself.
>>538428320So if you want to talk about other games instead of just whinging or shitposting, you are free to do so
>>538428356Colony was a bit more interesting when you had limited slots for projects (aka, you could not them all barring ones that exclude otehrs) and keeping up stats was harder to qualify.Now, it's just a waiting game and choosing your universal bonuses/rewards
Arueshalae is my girlfriend. MINE!
>>538428731Go to bed, Dimalchio
>>538428320Because once solasta 2 comes out it will be 90% solasta discussion and when the next iron tower game that they have been teasing comes out 90% of the general will be talking about that, also I've seen a few anons metion secret of the weepstone and it seems like it will be similar to skald (small inde using retro mechanics with a cool looking aesthetic) so I imagine it will get a decent buzz when it comes out.
nobody gives a shit about solasta dude
Wheres the anon who was mad at Solasta for being ugly
>>538429047I do. For the user campaigns, 1 had a few cool ones
>>538429047Solasta is in the op for a reason, its probably the second best combat fag crpg right after knights of the chalice.
There's no one here excited for a new iron tower game. Nobody played colony ship and nobody is going to play whatever their new game is.
>>538428915Speaking of Skald, I absolutely loved it. Made me think of the days of playing Nahlakh.
>>538428915>Because once solasta 2 comes out it will be 90% solasta discussionIt won't. You'll get like three people talking about it and one posting about their progress.>Iron TowerSame thing. You overestimate what games people here play.
>>538429297We have even had blogposting about Colony ship runs though
Iron tower GODS made age of decadence which moggs every single owlcrap game into oblivion btw.
>>538429067the UI looks so fucking ugly and lazy??? like some intern just copied some mobile game and didn't bother making it "fantasy" like
>>538429530the game is like 4 hours long
>the zoomer mind can not comprehend a simple ui because thier adhd brain needs everything to be flashy
>>538429535who the fuck cares you noob what matters is the gameplay loop de hoop schoop the coop!
>>538429479yes I remember but it quickly went away and people switched back to talking about Owlcat. There's just no way their new game is going to have staying power here beyond the first week or so of it's release.
We are ALL playing underrail infusion when it comes out
>>538429535>Trying to copy how it feels to do pnp>Make the UI 0 effort gray boxesAt least add some paper texture on it fucking hell.>>538429686What ever happened to taste?
Trying TTT and expanded content for the first time.How shit is Silver Champion? Paladin with a drake sounds badass. Gonna play on hard.
>>538429789explain in 100 words or less why I should give a fuck about your game if your team can't give enough of a fuck to design a proper UI
>>538430061fucking midget
>>538430061Solasta UI is a proper UI its extremely easy to understand and use.
>>538429942You give up casts, smites and mercies IIRC.I guess it's not so bad since there are fewer evil enemies in Kingmaker and pets are obviously potent
>>538429297>>538429530I think both of them had the same issue.The only way to play optimally is to know in advance what skill checks you need and what order to do quests so that you can get the xp to pass those skill checks.Playing blind always boiled down to the same thing.>oh wow a new quest>oh I don't have X in Y skill>I guess I can't do that quest>oh I guess that quest is unavailable now because I progressed too far>oh I over leveled Z skill, I guess I'll remember that for next timeI think the point is to encourage replayability, but as a consequence it makes the first run really unsatisfying and subsequent runs like going through the paces for the optimal outcome.
>>538430061click the enemy and damage happens is peak combat and the only thing you should care about
>>538430186I went through both games blind on my first playthrough I just got one of the mid tier endings both times.
this technically counts as an RPG because i like itare you as true of a roman as i am?
>>538430061zoomers can't even process this level of kino
>>538430346come to think of it, why aren't you awarded a grass crown in expeditions for saving what's-his-name in act 1?
>>538430186Yes I agree. I kept having to restart in AoD because my build didn't have the correct skill checks to continue the main story and I just got sick of it and stopped playing, like somehow the game just expected me to know which skills were important and which ones are garbage.
>>538430186pretty much>>5384306604-5 for teron, 5-7 for Maadoran, 8-9 for Ganezarr are good guidelines
>>538416852
It's not gay, it's called optimization, and I needed a quick set of non-armor clothes.
Obsidian is to Bethesda what Spiders is to Bioware
>>538431715The Leather-Clad Centurion
Is it gae to take Expertise and Improved Expertise as my first two feats in NWN tho?
what does that even mean
>>538431924don't worry about it whatever you pick will be gay
>>538432129*bites lip*
Guys, I really enjoy looking at numbers. What about you?
>>538432402Cammers...
>>538431715Just go naked. There's no difference between that and a 10 AC outfit.
>>538399945>the most ineffective of all the forces fighting in the CrusadesTry to beat march to Drezen without that Cavarly unit.I dare you
>>538432645>The only time they manage to accomplish anything at all is when they just act as a beatstick with no voice or opinions completely under your command.Wow!
>>538432645Huh? That's not so hard, don't even need a mage.
>>538399945touch grass
I fell back in love with DOS2 a few days ago. I found an ancient temple and it was so awesome blowing up the wall in order to access it. Is this the best modern CRPG, or are there some better games, because this was the one that clicked the most with me.
>>538433470Nice to hear that you are having fun with it.I really need to play the Divinity games at some point. I did pick up the first one a little while ago.
>>538430176>gives up smitesDamn this was for WOTR
Six billion humans? Ridiculousss
Oh, do some of you guys play with mods on your CRPGs? I never even considered that.
>>538434690I'm pretty sure I'm the only person here who plays PF games without Toybox.
Why is the autosave in RT so shit?
>>538434960I mean, it isn't necessary to enjoy the game. Bubblebuffs is though.
>>538415564This describes me and my interested in Solasta 2>>538415851>>538401593More accurate to say that I'm excited for it despite it being 5eEven more accurately, it's orthogonal, I have no strong feelings about the system in and of itself. It was shit in BG3 and pretty good in Solasta.
>>538434960The only mods I've used on the PF games is a full respec mod for WotR.>>538435250>BubblebuffsNo need on Core and lower, barely an inconvenience on Hard if you've played through once or twice and know what you're doing.
Not really sure what should be added to Pathfinder 3.
>>538436139housing
>>538436139Actual girlfriends that show up to your tabletop session and roleplay as redeemed succubi/ cannibalistic psychopaths / eternally young queens / sexy mommy sexo / sexy holy goddesss sseexxxoSEX
Banquet for Fools will save /crpgg/https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jl_Q6SJdh_I
>>538436575If it ends up sucking I will blame you personally
>>538436432based
>>538436432Average anon post
>>538436432Sorry bro we've got theater kid faggots and hostile feminist bitches galore for your hobby though.
Oath of Sex
Oath of Hand-holding
Oath of Usury
Oathmeal
Hey, maybe Owlcat will introduce a normal human female for the PC to have a classic storybook romance with.
Hey, maybe anon will grow out of kissing dollies.
If only the angry romancefag could learn how to write
She's out there now, alone. In your special place. Waiting for you...
Yrlietsisters how you doing?
>>538438136Im glad Argentafags are finally getting content!!!
>>538438136Why are PCs such whores?
>>538438082
>>538438136If Raszard did Yuri art, the people would love him, he's punished because he is a straight white man and proud of it
>>538438136Even the most obsessed waifu fag is just like a swarm of locusts, ready to move on to the next meal once they've gorged themselves on their previous one. Disgusting creatures.
I hope that the next big CRPG has no women or romance. CRPGs are about:Managing your equipmentSelecting appropriate spells and abilitiesInspecting the strengths and weaknesses of your opponents
>>538438751His style is bad enough that you could probably fool people by saying his OC is an RT on chemo
Looked up Aletheia: Return of Odysseus to see how progress is going and noticed they have another game listed, Aletheia: Prophecy of Perseus>Planned Release Date: Dec 31, 2099>This game plans to unlock in approximately 74 yearsok
>>538438782Not true I love Miranda, Shadowheart, Morrigan and Arueshalae equallyAlthough only Shadowheart has showed me her pussy so I fap to her more
>>538439515Where would you say that your life went wrong, anon?
>>538434960No, I play without mods too. For now. I might change my mind if it means being able to keep both Lann and Wenduag in my party.
Sometimes I feel like a mortal gnat, snapping its jaws at the Lord of Locusts....
>Behold, Iomedae...>Behold these flowers and chocolates I have bought for you
He used a hard R.
>>538440753get out
