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>News
Agent Record | Yidhari
https://www.hoyolab.com/article/40707205
Agent Record | Komano Manato
https://www.hoyolab.com/article/40688172
Agent Record | Lucia
https://www.hoyolab.com/article/40687818
Version 2.2 Special Program
https://youtu.be/-WZRmhZWcfU

>Newest Trailer/Teaser/Character demo
https://youtu.be/QKJj_AUOMTY (EN)
https://youtu.be/B42cNUVgzWU (JP)
https://youtu.be/yVudzVUiBBQ (EN)
https://youtu.be/pqOJai2C7S0 (JP)
https://youtu.be/LENKDAuyIwc (EN)
https://youtu.be/67IxXAtJelE (JP)

>Upcoming Events for 2.2
https://zenless.hoyoverse.com/en-us/news/159176
All-New Program 09/03 - 10/14
Floral Voyage Into the Unknown 09/03 - 10/13
Band of Brave Bangboo 09/05 - 10/13
Wish Bottle Adrift 09/05 - 09/29
Spotlight Showdown 09/13 - 09/29
Advanced Bounty: Routine Cleanup 09/18 - 09/23
"En-Nah" Into Your Lap 09/24 - 10/14
Problem Soldier Boot Camp 09/24 - 10/09
Rhythm Rave 09/29 - 10/13
"En-Nah" Treasure Hunt 10/04 - 10/13
Data Bounty: Combat Simulation 10/09 - 10/14

>Redeemable codes (claimable in-game or online)
https://zenless.hoyoverse.com/redemption
ZENLESSGIFT
ZZZ22OBOLSQUAD

>Resources and useful links
https://rentry.org/zzzlinks
https://rentry.org/ZZZ-Friends
https://interknot-network.com

>/zzz/ OP pastebin (use this if making new thread):
https://pastebin.com/PzbMf13P
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supercute & supercanon <3
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Wife
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> In an alternate timeline
> "I will get revenge on TOPs and the General because they stole my cheese!"
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DA sucks balls and deserve the flop. Fuck hp inflation, fuck buff shilling, fuck DA apologists and especially fuck sneed rollers
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>>538394472
how much does she love her cheese?
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>>538394472
meanwhile isolde...
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>>538394412
The mayor is the principal of Helios Academy confirmed
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revenge bad or good?
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>>538394581
A lot
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>>538394590
cute
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>>538394641
bad.
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>>538394590
Cloning tech exists...
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Vivian? Won. Your favorite? Dying in a pit.
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Lucy will get her alt outfit someday
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going on a date with torigah
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>>538394549
They could, yes, but you wanted an explanation as to why it isn't happening so its obvious they don't follow a model of "let's just hire a few guys to only do this one thing".

Its only a "huge" drain on resources such that it's an opportunity cost of having your existing employees doing literarily anything else and if they were going to hire more people just to shit out more skins, they would much rather those people work on the other things to get product out the door on time.
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I have successfully gaslit some d*scord retard into rolling for SEED + ball
My work here is done
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>>538394771
Belle is so lucky.
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>>538394412
Nah, I think the Creator is something like an Elder God. Like a really powerful alien who is revered as a god. Geppeto sort of teased something like this.
However, were does the mayor call Phaethon his children? Its Carole who call them like that.
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>sneed shill casually admits being a discord groomer tranny
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>>538395227
Everyone in Helios is a bio experiment
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>>538394279
Team culture, Hi3 even in the state it's in releases skins, even if it's mostly free ones you get by playing the events and some spending event ones with the rare premium currency only skins, the game actively released skins since the start, said skins are also usually show in the event you get it from, maybe if zzz actually TRIED with events, and leaned more into them being a way for characters to interact in fun ways we'd get more skins, but unless a shift in the team itself happens i won't hold out hope
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>Yenless Yen Zero
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I like ZZZ
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>>538395227
He trusts Carole immensely and believes she’s blameless, but judging by what Bringer says, there seems to be something going on
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>"haha is she dead?"
>shes actually dead
Bros wtf I thought they weren't supposed to show corpses in these games...
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>>538395636
How dare you?
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>>538395636
Me too
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>>538395636
same
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>>538395636
Give it up bro, zzz is shit now
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>>538395154
but... I did that, people told me she was F2P friendly, I could just use her with Billy and Nicole
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>>538395739
You reminded me of this pic i took
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>>538395920
Same dynamic?
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>>538395636
Me too
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>2.1 story is 4hrs
>2.2 story is 3h40ms
fuck

I need this done before genshin 6.0
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>>538395636
but do you love it?
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>>538395636
Only the shitposters don't
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>>538396298
We hate miyabi here bozo, literally killed the meta
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>>538396123
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>>538396274
you'll make it
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>>538396390
Mibibi is /zzz/ core and everyone loves her, we also love shifu here
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>rail makes a shitload of money no matter what
>devs never bother to improve it
>shittier story and less content each patch
it might honestly be a good thing that zzz is not doing well in sales. it makes it so that the devs can't get complacent and have to always try new things to improve the game, like an actual summer event in a hoyo game last patch for example
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I am stuck in an abusive relationship with ZZZ that won't let me quit despite the fact that I do not like it anymore because of how much I liked it before and how copeful I am that they will eventually make it great again
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>>538396503
VIOLENCE AGAINST FOXES!
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>>538396532
>is not doing well in sales
>"nyoooo we only made 10 million this month!!!!"
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It's my opinion but ZZZ died with the release of 1.4 and the the removal of the TV part of the game. It was not for everyone sure, but ZZZ really had something special in how they conveyed story elements and added neat little gameplay tricks through this TV mode. They removed it in favor of hallway slop everyone has burnt out on and the game has just been slowly dying from that since then. The Hoyoverse hamster wheel of powerspiking endgame content did not help its case.
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>>538395154
I did that and finally got the priest kill before miasma achievement. Thanks catbro, i can't wait to make her even stronger with Orphie.
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>>538396532
>it makes it so that the devs can't get complacent
Are we playing the same game?
The devs have either abandoned ship and ARE being complacent just serving coom outfits and AI designs, or they're so retarded they do not understand what people liked and disliked from early ZZZ
Either way we're fucked
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>finished Seed trial stages and the tower defense event
Welp now it's time for 5 weeks of no content...
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If woman like this were to survive and pounce on Wise, what would happen?
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they shouldve given seed a smaller and perkier ass
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>>538396882
Even Elysia can't save this game
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>>538396613
even if however much it is making in total is "good enough", thats not how businesses operate. the numbers have been on a downward trend for a while now and just hit an all time low with Seed, so you best believe hoyo is not happy even if they're still turning up a profit
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>>538396882
The world is saved and everybody will be happy forever and ever and the game will finally EoS on a positive note
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>>538397006
Dogshit character
Not Vivian tier but still dogshit
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>>538395636
based and same
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>>538395154
Prove it.
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>>538396882
the game would triple its profits
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>>538397005
are their heights measured from absolute base to top? ie from shoes to ears/headwear?
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>>538396820
time to impact some genshins
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>>538397153
So from 1 cent to 3 cents?
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>>538397269
Heights are the only thing that is sourced from the official website, but it seems there are some inconsistencies (i.e. Jane's height vs Caesar's height)
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>>538396968
>>538397006
nahh
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>>538396982
eos is coming~!!! yeS!!!!!!!
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>>538395636
it's a good feeling
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>>538396532
That’s a sign that it’s going to EOS.developers really need to get their act together
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>>538396769
they designers are still good just look at the NPC's , SoC flopped so they aren't sure what people want
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thinking of rat...
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orphie wants er 6 right?
right??
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>>538395227
The creator is Carole
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>>538396503
gigabased and gigatrue
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>>538397407
Hoyo, explain
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>>538396532
>>538397778
pftttt They are preparing for ZZZ to reach EOS. future looks bleak… mihoyo is working on a new IP hahaha
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>>538397912
boots
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>>538395154
You just bricked them forever.
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>>538397818
lewd thoughts?
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>>538397824
You fucker, hand that over
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>>538397815
>>538396769
development team is lazy and lacks communication. They have no passion and are giving up. eos is coming we know
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Seed flopped lmao
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>>538396585
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>>538397824
Atk + 2
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What do you think it would be like if STREAMER took over this game and developed it? to avoid going EOS currently?
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>>538396532
The new things they tried SUCK. I hate the new bosses they are a waste of time. I hate rupture it's so forced and artificial. I hate the new characters they look like they came from Genshin. I hate being given black screens instead of comic. I hate these things you call "improvements"
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>>538398116
i miss this cutie pie...
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>>538395920
>handsome masculine man with his side-loli secretary
I like this trope
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>>538398109
>>538398264

eos is coming~~~~~~~~~~~~~ E.O.S /zzz/ is scared... oh no no no no
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That was some good corn
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What disk sets and mainstats does Orphie want?
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ill say it one more time.

hp inflation in this is so fucking CRINGE.

jane m0w1, vivian m2w1, yuzuha m1w1
miyabi m1w1, yanagi m0w0, astra m0w0
yixuan m0w1

and can only get 6 stars

ill get yixuans support ig but she is so dogshit i swear to fucking god im never touching jufufu.
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>>538398259
Which streamer? be specific
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>30 second invul phase
Zookeks will defend this
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>>538398259
xQc will add big-breasted characters, Caseoh will include fast food as agents, Kai will add AMP members, and Speed will do a collaboration with football players × ZZZ.
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>>538398429
You'd have to be the biggest shitter to struggle with those teams
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Lighter rapes me to sleep
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>>538398264
have sex
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>>538398627
Lucy...
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>>538398264
>>538396982
It’s clear that Zenless has fallen into despair. There’s no future for it.
That’s also a reason to worry about EOS… the developers don’t take feedback or respond to it.
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>>538398627
Burnice...
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>>538398627
Wise...
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We need to prepare for EOS. Everyone should enjoy the festival, an EOS’d festival
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The only designs i don't like that much in season 2 so far are Yi Xuan and the 2.3 Spook Shackers. I guess Flora is kinda eh, but definitely gets saved by Seed Sr, which makes her inclusion so much more frustrating i suppose.
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>>538398429
holy skill issue
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>August 2025 chinese gacha revenue all platforms
>1. Genshin = $140m
>2. HSR = $98m
>3. LaDS = $78m
>4. ZZZ = $64m
>5. Wuwa = $46m
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>>538398518
>30 second invul phase
>it gives you 1/4 of the points required to beat the stage
I dont see the issue
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>>538398627
Komano who will be doing the same thing back the following night...
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>>538398627
wise...
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GODmano GODnato
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>>538398898
wuwon and zzz wonned too
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how retarded must one be to believe that a hoyo game will actually eos because of poor sales?
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>>538398429
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>>538398394
kek, it’s both tense and exciting now that EOS is becoming a reality
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>>538398259
>wuwa is the genshin killer
>the shills almost 90% compare it to zzz only at this point
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>>538398907
>Literally everyone dropped from 100k this cycle
I see that you are retard and just clear with 20k and call it a day
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>>538399018
very. but at least he gives away his shitposting game immediately, so it's very easy to ignore
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>>538399018
>gap between originally proposed concept and current outcome, along with the balance collapse, this is clearly not just a simple mistake

It’s obvious that devs are gradually giving up and steering it toward an EOS.
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>>538398429
It's okay bro, elitist will also kill this game
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>>538399018
It doesn't matter how retarded the idea is. If someone preaches it hard enough, people will eventually start believing it.
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>>538398898
sauce? is zzz actually that big in japan and china, thought zzz was struggling more
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>>538398898
There's no way to know any of the console and pc numbers retardgod.
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>>538399018
We used to say that about Cygames 5 years ago you know.
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>>538398259
If it were Speed, they would collaborate with football players like ronaldo to make a great game
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>>538398000
I know its boots but it makes you question everyone's height. Jane supposedly has her true height on the sheet but then you have someone like Trigger or Zhu who are reportedly taller than her while also being shorter. Unless I'm shit at knowing where feet are (which is possible), it just seems weird
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>>538398429
I'm sure priest with Yixuan is the easiest boss out of the three
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Laughing so hard at all these retards who only roll anomaly agents and thought they wouldn't get filtered at some point
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>>538395636
I love ZZZ
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>>538399592
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>>538399503
Went I went to China last year, there was barely anything ZZZ related in Shanghai
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Casual skillissuefag here

FUCK POWERCREEP
FUCK HP INFLATION
FUCK DEADLY ASSAULT
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>>538397912
One is literally taller than me
Why people care so much about revenue
I literally never think about it
Like ever
Or it's a brown's pastime to always talk about muh revenue?
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>>538399803
Name three good attack agents (female).
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>>538399803
i hate to keep posting the same image
you're gonna make me get even better clears
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>>538399503
zzz should follow the way of Southeast Asian. Southeast Asia has a lot of money and knows how to make gacha games fun and enjoyable
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>>538399880
you can probably get 6 stars just by swapping Nicole and miyabi positions to get more frost stacks from anomaly
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>>538399880
Bro your Soukaku
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>>538399683
yea jane being only 170 makes no sense, idk why this game is so afraid of making women tall. She shouldve been closer to 180
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>>538399573
chinese analysts >>>>> (You)
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>>538400097
>>538400108
he's posted that gore image before
he's just trolling for attention
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>>538395636
the only gacha game i actually enjoy playing
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>>538400132
She's tall by Chinese standards
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>>538399880
only 14k on the defiler? thats crazy, thats actually a good team
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>>538399982
now post your full 9 star clear
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>mihoyo is creating new IP

>zzz has been just as challenging and dark, and zzz devs are also very interested in moving on to develop new IP

This is major concern It’s no longer just ragebait. this is reality
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>>538399880
Based fuck this game, if the devs want to lose more players then this is it. Fuck sneed rollers for supporting shit design and shit endgame
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>>538399880
Did you have a wank with the other hand? How did you fuck up this badly?
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>>538399880
Should have rolled Sanby. Easiest 30K ever.
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>>538400369
millions of dollars every single month
neck yourself
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>>538399964
Ellen
Seed
Sanby
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>>538400369
>zzz Devs are also very interested in moving on to develop new IP
>source: my beaten and plowed gaping anus
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Boss that wastes a MINUTE of your time without you being able to deal any damage. Along with:
-HP inflation
-Hyper specific buffs
-Token To Waste Resources + One shot if you dont break
-Token to fuck over anomaly
-Miasma Shield.
Response? You need to get better! Yeah fuck off
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>>538399592
If it were Speed, this game could have become second Genshin Impact or Star Rail
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>>538399880
>3 miasma bosses in a single DA
Apologize.
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>>538400369

Source?
>zzz has been just as challenging and dark, and zzz devs are also very interested in moving on to develop new IP
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Cumming hard to Seed's feet
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I like how the shitposters talk as if they were some grand prophets. It's fucking hilarious.
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>>538400550
hey, subhuman bro, stop evading spam filters with 4chanX real quick and put on a trip so i can filter you even faster
thanks
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>>538400169
>Trust me bro """analyst"""
Ok retard.
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>>538399803
easy 9 stars with only anomalies and a yixuan team. attackers are literally worhtless. unless the new VH will be attack never ever pull for them if you care about meta.
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>>538400517
>L len
>T1 Sneed
>DOAnby
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>>538400196
not really, that's my genuine score. You can even check the archive for "skillissuefag" or "fuck powercreep fuck inflation" and you'll see my scores over the past months

The hp inflation is insane in zzz
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>>538400550
The miasma phases aren't even that hard - they basically leave just as fast as they come
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>>538395553
you will never be a woman
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>>538400534
Kekaroni, imagine listening to 20klet scorer lmao then calls DA easy
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>>538399592
W
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>>538400740
i just double checked, it's true
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>>538395636
I love Zenless, this game panders to me!
So many cute characters, and big strong men!
I love them all!
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>barely 30k score with shilling and weakness advantage
>Miasma phase is le good-ACK
Lmao retard
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Speed wouldn't inflate HP.
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>>538399592
I would be kino if it will be One Piece × Ronaldo × zzz
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Bros this is very concerning. ZZZ will EoS next week because Mercury, the new bangboo, flopped and severely underperformed despite Devs putting all of their profits to date into it
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>>538398898
>64m for just China
Yeah, we're nowhere near end of service.
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Surprised how well Jane performed considering she's only M0 using weeping gemini compared to YX and Seed having their busted sig engines. Vivian deserves that swimsuit.
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>>538400942
> Doesn't respond directly
Peak fag behavior lmao. I never said I was the best at the game but my scores have only been going up overtime with the exception of full anomaly shill weak as I actually learn how to play properly
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>>538398627
Belle...
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Do you really think there are people who play or like zzz?
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>>538400942
20k is good enough. You are not entitled to 60k without investment
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I think DA should have a leaderboard players compete on, and the bulk of Chromosome rewards are locked behind 6+ cost teams for each boss
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>>538398627
Billy...
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>>538399018
there isn't a single genuine poster who thinks this, it's always just the shitjeeps
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seed is too lewd. I'm getting a boner upgrading her skills and disks
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Jesus Christ what's with all these streamer shills. Do browns really love their Twitch celebrities that much?
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ngl i still playing ZZZ.
and holy hell the power creep is abysmal. Miyabi the literal unit that power creeping everyone when she come out is starting to get obsolete.
max star endgame without shiny new unit is like climbing a skyscraper bare hand. and the new unit is not even that good design wise.
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>>538401219
may be sea people
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This is concerning, I think they might've replaced all the jeets with bots since all the doomposts are just the same now. Just look at the guy who uninstalled the game for the 60th time in a span of 2 days.
What do you think happened to them?
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>mono ice clears 60k
>"boohoo, miyabi is too strong! zzz is too easy!"
>new bosses with new mechanics
>"boohoo, anomalies dead in a ditch! zzz is too hard!"
>6 star clears with A ranks
>"pff, let's see those 8 star clears, huh?"
>9 star clears
>"barely 30k score with shilling and weakness advantage? lmao! retard!"
>60k with corin
>"boohoo, i refuse to get good! wuwon!"
lynch yourself, doomjeet
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>>538401153
Not really
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>>538399018
I can forgive an individual if they don't know Hi3 exists, but otherwise it's just shitposting
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>>538401407
Yes, they've literally been recycling the same posts over and over for the last five days or so. You could even collect them and they'd be identical, word for word.
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>>538398259

what about him?
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>>538400629
>Comfy hours die the moment Jeetforce 9 wakes up to earn their daily google play cards.
I cannot wait untill Anata or whatever donkeyslop they're anticipating comes out so they can latch their cancerous shitskin behaviors onto them instead of us.
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>>538401153
>>538401430
uninstall yourself from real life
>>538401258
i wouldn't be surprised if the streamers themselves are paying indian corporations to shill them everywhere
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My difference in score against Miasma Priest in DA just 2 months apart with same team
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>>538400676
This isn't your safespace redditranny.
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>>538401161
So you admit that you are a casual that never bothered to reach 60k. Retard your opinion doesn't matter because you never really played the game, your pussy ass mother fucker only want to collect rewards like a retard on a treadmill
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>>538401586
The buff was probably better in the first clear
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>>538400629
They read like bots trained on self-important Reddit posts and passed through a jeet's spellcheck.
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>>538401632
enjoy drawing breath while you still can, subhuman
vermin like you don't last long
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Tbf I like ZZZ but I just don't get why the players can't face the fact that hp inflation is getting ridiculous, sig wengines are getting stronger, anomaly bar inflation because Miyabi is just too good in monoice, DA bosses getting too much iframes, boss mechanics that makes my character do nothing for 30 seconds. Like wtf are these devs doing.
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>>538401586
That’s what you get for not rolling Jufufu desu
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>>538401560
ran away from the internet for the last 2 weeks almost cause his subhuman IQ ass tried getting into politics and he instead has gotten raped multiple times in the political internet space
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>>538394237
why cant i find it on play store? i search for it and it's nowhere
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>>538401586
Bro you only need 6stars according to retards here
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>>538401761
Powercreep is only a problem if you are greedy and stupid.
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>>538395418
hi3 was created with alt business model in mind, thats why it has infinitely better story because characters get to stick around without being rotated out every 3 weeks to shill the flavor of the month gacha
hell, hi3 has more swimsuit skins than all nuhoyo combined have actual characters
the modern hoyo gacha model is a mistake
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>>538401803
They're not wrong though?
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>>538401787
it's not 18+, so i don't see why it wouldn't be appearing
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.HoYoverse.Nap&hl=en-US
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I like ZZZ because I don't know how to play ZZZ and only do DA like half the time
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metafags are a disgrace
it's inconceivable to them that someone might wanna roll a character for FUN
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>>538401751
Longer than zzz will last by this rate, that's for sure.
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>>538401586
The loss should be 8k max tbqh
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>>538401654
Zzz is my side hoe. Getting 0-cycles, 80k and 7700+ scores is where it’s at.
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>>538401945
Same except I still have never done DA
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>>538401787
Just tried it, it's showing up for me just fine. What did you search for?
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>>538401654
>the raider who LITERALLY doesn't play the game accusing 20k clears of not playing it because it's not 60
you jeets are hilarious
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the new sup discs are amazing, managed to grab the last 3/3 from da with nicole plus the set
I should try to change yuzuha's too, right?
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How do I know if I'm having fun with ZZZ?
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>>538401721
NTA but wanted to look it up. Left is old, right is current. Yeah, the left shill buff seems leagues better by comparison
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>>538398259
Do you think if famous streamer like kai, speed took over zzz, which is currently in trouble with mihoyo, and developed it, they would probably make it better since he’s actually pretty good at games?
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How much is Trigger's aftershock total damage contribution? 30%? More? Is there any point in using Shadow Harmony(4pc) on her?
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I don't like DA because i have to spend multiple attempts just getting a rotation perfect, ONE mistake? Hit that reset button, yes my discs are fucking shit and i hate that i'm at least 2 months of non stop mining away from hitting main/sub stat critical mass
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They should add 3 more bosses to DA, so you need 6 teams.
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I can't remember the last time I had fun
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Idh any interest in foot fetishes and that tail gun thing.. so I'm skipping the entire patch.. and after finishing the current story... they're hinting that Ye Shiyuan is gonna be killed off in the future.. and after looking at ZZZ's upcoming characters, I'll be skipping everyone in the next update as well..
I don't hate them... but atm idk what is happening ZZZ's recent and upcoming characters just aren't giving me that "click" that makes me wanna pull for them.. I just want new,awesome and cool characters. those sexy things aren't working for me, if anything, it makes me uncomfortable lol
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>>538402279
6 is too much imo but I've been wanting 4
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>>538402196
yeap
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>>538402268
No. The Jufufu stunner disc set powercrept it. Every stunner is on it now.
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>Devs: PLZPZLLZPZLZPZLZPZLPLPPPPPPPPPPPLLLLLZZZZZZZ I BEG OF YOU GUYYSYSSYSYSYSYS PlzLZpzlPZLpzlPZLzplPZLpzlPZLp ROLLlLllLl SEED PLZZZZZZZZZZZZ
nah
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>>538402318
In general? That's a you problem.
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>>538402405
I know :(
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>>538402279
>>538402338
they're adding a game mode in 2.3 that "needs" 4 teams
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>>538402382
Her damage output is so low? (m0s1)
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>>538401586
minor HP% powercreep and no busted passive for yi xuan, if you already know how to fight with priest you should still get above 20k+ points
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>>538402268
Maybe if you go for a full aftershock team
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>>538402324
komano W, He’s famous and has strong aura
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Your Seed? Your HaruGOD?
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>>538402512
He is trolling, no one leaves a clear at 19k if it's not to shitpost
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According to a YouTube short, Yanagi is super viral on TikTok right now. It’s just edits of her walking through various backgrounds. Sometimes it’s one Yanagi, sometimes it’s multiple yanagis. It’s gotten to the point even normies who don’t even know ZZZ are getting fed up and asking, “who the hell is this Yanagi?”
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>>538402207
For me, it's dabbing on high-ether Hollow Zero with some sub-par team.
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>>538402630
obviously, but it's still worth replying so retards don't get tricked
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>>538402638
I don't remember asking
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>>538402512
> Lose 30% Helf buff which directly translates to sheer force buff
> Lose 40% Eth damage buff
> Compounded by HP inflation
Yeah, a 7k -9k difference makes sense
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I only played the story and part 1 of the character story... but seed feels dumb as bricks.
She waters her flowers with engine oil and wonders why they dying.
Correction, she doesn't know they are dying as she doesn't understand the concept of death but can see they look bad.
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>>538399683
Jane's heels are not flat platforms
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>>538402482
Sweeet don't have to feel as bad rolling for rolling overlapping roles and attributes
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>>538402638
The concept of Yanagi walking.
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Nobody cares you fucking sneed roller kys
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>>538402638
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Just finished the story now 1 week after everyone else.
I'm shocked... I can't believe that Aizen was actually evil all along and would betray everyone. How didn't I see this coming! AAAARGH!
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7kF3_IFPaJA
Why is Miyabi used in this video
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>>538402865
Judging by the vibe, it’s clear that it has possible to eos
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As a day 1 ZZZ player, I'm honestly on the verge of uninstalling. A couple days ago, I realized... I just wasn't having fun with the game. It was feeling more like a chore than a fun time, and the dailies felt like a waste of time.
When I was slogging through an event (with unskippable dialogue) on the last day before it ended, I just stopped and asked myself if it was worth it. Did I really want to spend another half hour grinding through an event I didn't want to do for less than 2/3 of a single pull?
Honestly, Orphie could have been a big draw to keep me playing. The whole sentient dragon-headed tail thing is honestly pretty cool, and I feel like they could have done so much with it. But then everything else about her is just kind of... bland. Nothing terrible, but nothing exciting either. And making Magus's combat role be essentially just "talking flamethrower" seems like such a missed opportunity.
I've enjoyed the game for a long time, but I just haven't been feeling it lately. It's unfortunate since it seems like some of the devs really care, but maybe this is just the Hoyo curse.
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HP inflation is overhyped. The reason Yixuan is doing worse is because all the buffs are shit for her. What you used for Miasmic Fiend before, is still good now. And big tits is the "roll the new agent or just be happy with 20k."
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>>538403294
hmm I have read this before
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>>538402842
Refined sneed oil
Truly unhealthy...
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>>538403357
It's a common sentiment.
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We need a new Ether DPS.
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>>538403228
>Why is Miyabi used in this video
Neck hurts from carrying the entirety of New Eridu's weight.
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Bunny wife!
Happy life!
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>>538403294
devs killed any resemblence of a story
devs killed all traces of the aesthetic and vibe that made zzz stand out on release
the only reason to play is if you enjoy action game autism like minmaxing frames but then you have to ask yourself why not play fighting pvp games. literally no point investing that much time into mastering a shitty pve action game
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>>538403540
You may only choose between attacker and anomaly. Which one?
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>>538403294
Link to original Reddit post pls?
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I have a new ZHAOLESS Zhao ZHAORO picture but it has a big penis over her right shoulder so you’ll just have to imagine it.
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>>538402842
>"wooooow why is the autistic girl acting...autistic????? this wasn't in the manual!"
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>>538403775
anomaly
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>>538403775
Attacker. I don't really like Anomaly.
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HP inflations is quickly killing this game
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The game would be improved by adding a playable evil woman
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>>538403964
Koleda is evil because all gingers are evil!
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Sarah is the season 2 final boss and that's a good thing.
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>>538403964
Pulchra?
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I hope they're getting paid to doompost. Can't imagine anyone being so miserable that this is how they choose to spend their time
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I'm going to be blunt. The story and setting of 2.0 has just been trash from top to bottom. The Exaltists are stupid, making the proxies mystic wizards is dumb, and the Star-Rail-esque map exploration is monotonous and boring. Combine that with really excessive, long-winded and rambling writing where characters stand around with 50+ text windows for a simple conversation points over and over again, and the game just isn't fun to slog through.
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>>538403739
zzz developers have lost motivation, and the game is virtually abandoned. User feedback is barely reflected, and even the direction of the game is unstable
So you’re saying it’s going to EOS
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Latefag here, I just finished Seed's story and it was the best agent story so far
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>>538400740
>>538400808
they broke you
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bros I kinda like s11 but I'm too used to mashing buttons by now so her gimmicks feels like fucking cancer...
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>>538404261
>lately
That depends. What is your timeframe for lately?
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If I could choose one who has the better M1? Seed or Orphie?
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>>538404264
Nah Trigger is still the best by a wide margin.
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>>538404281
>exposed tranny
>breaking anyone
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>>538403739
Don’t you remember that they are making a new IP?
ZZZ was disappointing, That’s proof that it’s heading toward EOS Ah, well done
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>>538404179
Pulchra is a mutt and hence utterly unfuckable
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>Disliked BLANDfly so much, she was one of the main reasons I quit HSR 1 patch
>was one of the most successful HSR banners
>Dislike parts of Sneed's outfit but like everything else about her character a lot
>is not a successful Zenless banner
This game was made for me, but not for the HoYo normies bros...
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>>538404416
yep, buckbroken
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>>538404417
there is no chance in hell the new ips will succeed
they look like complete fucking slop
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>>538404264
Did it get you anon?
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>>538404416
anon this is getting embarassing
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>>538404503
>They look like complete fucking slop
So a wild commercial success?
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>>538404465
In what world does “playable evil woman” imply the necessity of “fuckable”?
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>>538404520
Yes, and the animation before that was just perfect
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>>538404520
I'm not media iliterate no so
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>>538404238
I miss how connected everything felt from season 1. Everyone had a role to play that meaningfully added to the central plot while also telling pretty fun faction focused stories. The factions themselves had regular interactions with one another too.

Season 2 really struggles to capture the same feeling.
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>>538404637
In ZZZ
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>>538404417
>>538404503
Indeed, this game is expected to soon reach eos
dev's interest is gradually waning, and the game's overall direction is also becoming unstable
It’s clear that devs are very interested in their new IP game
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>>538404637
If i don't want to fuck her i can't try to correct her only to be corrupted myself
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Why is thread full of chat gpt doomposts
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>>538404465
Tasteless shit opinion contrarian-kun
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>>538404851
AWOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOGA
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>>538404820
You mean ChatJeetPT
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>>538404708
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Yo, anons, lemme tell ya, Zenless Zone Zero 2.0 and beyond is straight-up a letdown, fr. They gutted the soul outta this game, man—ditching the dope TV mode for some generic Honkai: Star Rail wannabe open-world crap just screams lazy devs bending over for normie complaints. Combat’s still slick, but the new characters like Ju Fufu and Pan Yinhu? Mid-tier at best, with Yizuan carrying all the weight while the rest feel like gacha filler. Failume Heights looks cool, but it’s just a shiny distraction from the fact they borked the map system and slapped in laggy trash like Ju Fufu’s particle effects. Story’s a rushed mess, and the whole vibe’s lost that retro edge that made ZZZ stand out. HoYoverse fumbled the bag hard, baka.
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>>538404486
>Firefly has a cool mech Kamen rider that does not fit the theme of the game at all and her personality is a non existent void
>Sells gorillons
>Seed gets a mech specially designed to fit into the game and one if not the best agent stories with an incredible emotional arc and a very unique personality based around kidnaping the major
>Flops
Point taken, just make bland waifus and generic anime designs and never try
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>>538404778
>Their new IP might be their only hope
that’s clear proof that this game has no hope left. It may also be evidence that the developers have lost their direction, and that the fun and meaning the game was supposed to have have already been distorted or erased. Compared to other games, it lacks competitiveness, they should have made it more like DMC + Bayonetta
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Honestly haven't played ZZZ since the Vivian update, I enjoyed the story and character a lot, but then I remembered that, as a gacha, next update would have nothing to do with these characters I've gotten attached to and they would fade into irrelevance
Good thing I found Limbus Company, there I have to farm way less, the farm is more focused on the actually good part (getting units), and the story is way better than that of Genshin or Zenless by virtue of it now having to introduce new characters to gamble for every update
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>>538404820
they re raging that it won’t go eos
pfttttt
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>509 cmts
I guess the sisters are meltying again.
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>>538405045
>Firefly has a cool mech Kamen rider that does not fit the theme of the game at all and her personality is a non existent void
It's a fucking space comedy, there is nothing that can't "fit the theme".
>her personality is a non existent void
You can not like her without lying.
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Her ass is perfect, not too flat but not too big either, Zhu and Eve aren't at all bad but i have my preferences
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>>538405045
People wanted the robot.
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I asked Grok to summarize this thread

The users are debating the state of the game, its recent updates, and its financial performance.

Game's Health and Future

The overall sentiment is doomposting, with many users claiming the game is heading toward End of Service (EOS).

Users attribute this decline to poor sales, a downward trend in revenue, and a lack of effort from the developers.

Some believe the developers are lazy, lack passion, and are not responding to player feedback.

Others argue that the "new things" the developers have tried, like new bosses and mechanics, are bad and have made the game worse.

A few users defend the game, pointing to its multi-million dollar monthly revenue and the fact that its developer, Hoyoverse, is unlikely to shut it down.

Gameplay & Characters

A major point of contention is the "power creep", where new characters and their associated "Anomaly" (Anom) builds are seen as significantly stronger than older ones.

Players complain about "HP inflation" in new content, which they say makes the game harder and forces them to pull for new, powerful characters.

The removal of the "TV part" of the game is lamented by some as it was a unique feature that made ZZZ special.

There's also debate about the new character Seed's performance, with some claiming she "flopped" and others providing clear screenshots of high scores with her.

A user mentions that while the game's revenue is still high, the recent "Seed" update hit an all-time low.

Community & Trolls
The term "Sneed rollers" is used to describe players who pull for new characters (like Seed), whom others blame for "supporting shit design."

There's a recurring joke about wanting a certain streamer, Speed, to take over the game's development to save it.

Users are seen sharing "skill issue" posts, with players struggling to clear content, and others mock them for it.
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>>538405007
>>538405228
good, It also serves as proof that game is heading toward eos soon kek
mihoyo is losing interest in it, and director is incompetent as well
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Don't care about electric attackers lol. Just going to wait two cycles until we're back to the usual programming.
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>>538405425
Shifu's ass is actually larger than Eve's, it just doesn't have the retarded clap 2000 physics applied to it
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Honestly, Zenless Zone Zero is in such a fun spot right now. The updates keep bringing new agents, events, and story stuff that make exploring New Eridu feel fresh, and the community is just wild—incredible memes, edits, and of course, Yanagi Walking taking over TikTok. It’s clear the devs are listening too, so it feels like the game is really growing with us. With the Xbox release and more content on the way, it’s exciting to look forward to what’s next.
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>>538404820
Someone paid a sweatshop full of jeets ten whole dollars, which enough to get a dozen of them shitting up the thread for the next ten hours.
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>>538405574
That can't be right
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>>538405780
>>538397005
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why thread is so slow
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I wonder how easy going Obol is when trigger finds enough leave to stalk phaeton more often
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>>538404820
>>538405640
Kek, the least they could do is to pretend they're trying
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Can we stop forcing Anby to hang out with Obol? Those aren't her friends.
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Here's what Hoyo can do to fix ZZZ: Buff every 5* character so they are close in dmg to Miyabi/yixuan on the right team and right enemy, Delete the Squid and the Nun girl, make Manato a 5* and the EbayGanyu a 4*, Hire an actual storywriter that can make something interesting that doesn't waste players time (reduce the yapping, increase set up and payoffs, increase the impact of the main character decisions within the story progress), add a skip button to NPC dialogues.
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>>538405326
Look mate I got her because the animations and SAM are cool but you can take her out of penacony and nothing changes, the entire time she is on screen is about "muh mc I used to be with you"
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Heads up, Jufufu can double Ult refund the Orphie Seed duo.
It's relly good.
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>>538405906
Holy shit
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>>538406126
sorry but mihoyo can't make money off her real friends and the game has 0 sovl currently
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>>538406126
Devs said no. Obol is even keeping it secret from S11
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>>538405512
>>538405626
>>538406152
>make Manato a-BRAPPPPPPP
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>>538406278
Why did you respond to those other posts when only one talked about Manato?
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>>538406361
All of them were positive
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>>538406201
It's odd. Eve's ass is "larger" because it seems taller but shifu has a larger peak but it is overall "shorter" probably to emphasis that she works out more intensely than Eve.
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>>538405228
At least change your text >>538276514
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>>538404971
I'm gonna say it.
What the devs did with Seed from a story perspective was much more impactful and beautiful than if they kept him alive and playable.
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>news that mihoyo is developing new IP, Nexus Anima, poses a significant threat to the currently struggling zzz. Nexus Anima is likely to attract attention due to mihoyo’s dev capabilities and established fanbase, potentially drawing interest and resources away from zzz.

>Moreover, it seems that even dev of zzz are drawn to the appeal of working on a new IP. This suggests that within the development team, there may be more focus on new projects rather than maintaining zzz, which could lead to a lack of support and weakened development momentum over time.

>Ultimately, the launch of Nexus Anima could be more than just competition for zzz; it may present a real risk to the game’s sustainability and growth.

anons.... Should we be worried?
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>>538406821
Get a hobby
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>>538406560
Does that mean Eve is the actual snack monster and just projects her own flaw on Astra?
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Well?
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>>538406957
Eve probably binge eats because of Astra. She burns it off because she has to constantly run after her
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Anyone else think the whole acceptance scene was good not because they actually care about Flora or Seed Sr, but because it's simply a universally sympathetic situation?
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>>538406560
>>538406957
>>538407152
I love show don't tell story telling
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>>538406821
We should be worried. There is pressure for ZZZ to make money to fund Honkai Nexus Anima. Instead of draining HSR's resources like ZZZ have always done, Mihoyo is focusing on Nexus Anima.
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>>538405680
>>538406784
A Rank Asha when? How?
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>>538406821
You should be worried that you are still living in your parents basement
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>>538407265
>Instead of draining HSR's resources like ZZZ have always done
Are we still coping with this?
When Honkai Impact was siphoning off Genshin, it actually started having production and mechanic assets that Genshin did first.
A full mini DMC mode, real time fully 3D cutscenes, fully voiced story mode, explorable maps.

Everything but farming QoL in ZZZ has gotten worse, and they don't even pretend they actually want to make Eousploration like the slurpers insisted.
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Hopes? Expectations for Vivians swimsuit?
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>>538404520
this was really cute, Flora's smile needs to be protected at all costs
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>>538407001
There was that anon complaining about lack of armpit details on her art, bet he's foaming at the mouth now.
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>>538407429
Ratita muy caliente
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I might try Nexus for my nigga Cassio Rollex.
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>>538408158
You Have Anal Woʻrms
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>>538408323
>Wo'rms
Trying to bypass filters or something?
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The amount of ATK bonus between Seed and Orphie is actually fantastic. it's lik having an Astra build into that duo, this leaves you with a flexible 3rd option.

And there are plenty of good candidates.
Jufufu provices double ult refund and daze.
Astra provides fast EX regen, fast EX cast, especially if you rebuild her with Double ER discs and 5-star Weeping Cradle.
Any future agents with insane EX casting quantity will fit in here.
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>>538408420
wormschizo gets upset when he's ignored
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>>538407243
Yes. The whole story was focused on the dynamic of Flora and Seed putting (You), the viewer, in a position where you are more likely to think about your father figure in your life and how this scenario would play out. Its emotional because you can assumedly relate to this dynamic and seeing a child having to accept the lose of a parent who obviously loved them is emotionally charged
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>Seed succeeds
>Billy is revealed to be a pupped controlled by some little girl in a lab
we dodged a bullet
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holy fuarrrkkk
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Seed's agent story is good, but like the 6-minute animated short, it just makes me upset we aren't getting Big Seed and doesn't much improve my opinion of Flora herself.
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>>538408925
holy shit
two nekomatas!
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>>538408925
I've seen this pic before, it's the house negro banner
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>>538409095
>>538409114
>>538409118
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>>538409218
Good pull.
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LMAO
Good thing hoyoverse doesn't hire schizos
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>>538409218
Best ball
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>>538409368
And why should i care Rajesh?
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>>538409286
the wengin catch my emotion perfectly
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>>538404264
They put a fair bit of effort in with the unique areas and music, how many other agent stories do that? I forget
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>>538405465
Grok, this is too much wordslop. Summarize it in 2-4 sentences.
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>>538405425
It has a great shape
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Oh yeah the arcade owner is also a bunny thiren
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>>538409218
You got lucky with the engine. 5-star weeping Cradle is very sought after for Lucia, Astra, Yuzuha.
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>>538409594
Lmao, not the hand mods
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>>538409518
WTF, build him!
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>>538409686
Furfag got replaced by Yuzuha.
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i rolled Seed, now what?
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>>538408514
don't really see the point of running Astra with Orphie, you don't want to switch into her too often
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>>538409594
This is how China can dominate the west without firing a single shot
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>>538409779
>replaced
That implies you were using him in the first place, you liar!
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Holy shit I hate having to run in circles around one enemy while I wait for everyone to finish talking. Couldn't they have figured out how to delay combat waves or some other method of letting people who don't care about the story skip ahead by this point?
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>>538409686
I don't think I will
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>>538409803
fap to her feet
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>>538409803
Now you roll around as her
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>>538409803
>i rolled Seed, now what?

patpat
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>>538410056
>2. each Astra swap is more Steel Charge
This might be wrong.
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Got sneed, is orphie more important than trigger? I have astra available for the team
Don't think I can paypig my way to both
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>>538409803
open the UI
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>>538409803
Have fun with the character you pulled as the creator intended
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>>538409536
They definitely put a bit more in this one. And the pacing was pretty good too, even with the fact that they have to basically re-explain everything that was in the animated short, in case anyone plays the story without watching the short
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>>538409803
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let's see those day six numbers
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>>538409803
Now save rolls for Orphie
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>>538410232
>Got sneed, is orphie more important than trigger?
For Seed? 100%
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>>538409803
posted nigger or you're lying
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>>538410313
This post smells of curry with cow dong
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>>538409962
Yeah, they could do that by not having 5 second pauses between each line and adding a barrier on the edge of the room that blocks you until the dialogue but you can use the interaction button to skip it anyway if you don't like it.
But something this complex would require the devs to put in extra work into crafting immersion. Which they won't.
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>>538409803
Go draw pepe in the sand
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How do we save zzz?
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AAAASSSSSSS
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Seed only gets Steel Charge when the vanguard cast EX, right?

Means Astra EX doesn't count.
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>>538407831
Will be shit like anything related to her character
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>>538410457
rehire Waterkuma
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>>538410471
Si
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>>538410534
she also get when attack
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>>538410457
We don't need to
>>538397540
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Admit it.

You still love Zhu Yuan.
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For Orphie, will Anton's engine or Corin's engine be better?
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>>538410672
I'm a Siscon, she would just arrest me.
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>>538410672
I routinely forget about her.
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>>538410408
>cow dong
Anon, why do you know what bovine penis smells like?
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POST YOUR SEED RIGHT NOWWWW
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>>538410672
I didn't even like her originally, but she grew on me
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>>538410672
>Copolini that is upset we didn't tell her(An agent of the law) we're a proxy
What did she expect?
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>>538410672
no, and not because she's a filthy rat, but because she might as well have stopped existing after 1.4
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>>538410421
If they weren't retarded they would play dialogue while you're doing the toddler-tier puzzles.
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>>538395553
Hey there, how are you doing? Will you be catching up on the story?

I'm saving for Damian if he's playable, otherwise Mibibi/Caesar mindscapes, I think!
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>>538410471
I look like this and say this
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>>538410471
Good post
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>>538410892
I'm gay and didn't pull her, is she a former stripclub worker?
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>>538410672
I've always hated her stupid clown design and the comically large ass, I was never able to take her seriously
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>>538410672
I've never denied it.
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>>538411061
Would you kindly name the female characters you can take seriously? No need to be brief
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>>538411048
Yes, and?
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>>538410769
It's a work in progress
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>>538410672
I never really cared about her either way ngl
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What are Orphie's build requirements?
Is there a minimum ATK value she demands?
A minimum HP value she demands?
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>>538411061
>comically large ass
>I was never able to take her seriously
>t. Hoshimi Miyabi
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>>538410769
She's still level 30..
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>August 2025 chinese gacha revenue all platforms
>1. Genshin = $140m
>2. HSR = $98m
>3. LaDS = $78m
>4. ZZZ = $64m
>5. Wuwa = $46m
Wulost...
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>>538406821
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>>538410857
>if they weren't retarded, they'd just make TV mode more fun or incorporate it into the world than making the puzzles retard proof
I mean we complained about that since Chapter 4.
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>>538411469
DONT CARE
DIDNT ASK
YOU REPLIED TO THE POST
YOU HAVE TO POST YOUR SNEED
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>>538411213
do note that's not a requirement for me to like them or anything, it's just that I expected a bit of a different vibe from a cop
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>>538411570
It's easy to pretend TV mode was good now that we aren't dealing with it every patch
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>>538410769
*crickets*
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>>538411543
Do we have a source on this for reposting?
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>>538411387
No, she wants energy regen.
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>>538411553
Why does Sarah have the same eyes?
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>>538411061
>Comically large ass
>2.0 characters have the same model of jiggly ass
????
>>538410672
I want to like her but she might as well be removed by the game by Chapter 5.
In fact that whole NEPS pardon only to change to a different "region" that kills off their relevance was garbage.
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>>538410769
Ok. Brimstone Seed.
I need discs 4 and 5, they're kind of crap.
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Eve, Jane and Yanagi are easily the 3 best looking zenlesses. There's a massive abyssal gap from them to the next girls.
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EOS imminent
they should of stuck to their guns on so much than caving to action crwod, its not been worth it, the update cadence is screwed by it and story suffers now as well
tv mode needed more refinement than abandonment, the twins should stay out of hollow, powercreep needs adjusting
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>>538411553
Where did they get this "villain suicides by fake gun" trope from? Don't tell me it's actually from the ending of Falling Down?
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>>538411768
Also a Magus clone.
Patch 6.0 will start with a battle of Magus clones against Anby clones
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>>538411807
Renata mi amõr
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Pumping my seed into Seed
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>>538411646
>it's just that I expected a bit of a different vibe from a cop
What do you mean?
She's so law-abiding that she sent MC to fuck off, despite every single girl in the game foaming at the mouth the moment they see (You) like they're possessed
Even /zzz/ is still fucking mad almost a year later, and they're the kind of people to like outright evil women like Sarah and Isolde
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>>538411756
>she wants energy regen.
To the point where
4p Swing jazz
2p Moonlight
becomes viable?
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>>538406821
ask Nintendo because they won't try a law suit for patent.
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>>538411820
fuck hags, this was supposed to be a loli game before ZYL hijacked it with his retardation
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>>538411646
>The start of overdesign both visually and mechanically
>The most forced in character that who was relevant for a single patch (with a dogshit story) then was a glorified cameo
>Seriously

>Like Eve who has even more fetishy pants and has even less reason to be around

You're not even retarded at this point, that would give an excuse.
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ofee
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>>538412091
nnnnnnnnyo
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>>538411646
So you like characters that have some quirks but underneath are normal(for the most part) while disliking more gimmick leaning ones
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>>538411807
La Semilla Retrasada....
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>>538411967
A clone wars, you say? And Sarah is Palpatine. Makes sense
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>>538406821
zzz will be hi3 tier after hna releases
>>538410457
have pajeets shill the game on /zzz/, oh wait they already do it for free
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>>538411807
>Sporos
That actually doesn't sound half bad
Is her name also translated in other languages or is it just spanish?
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>>538412174
Hmmm
2p ER
4p Hormone Punk then?
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>>538411768
> She is Magus's original body revived via the creator. But like the Orphie clone, a new personality formed within it
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>>538411661
More like you're projecting and it's easy to pretend TV mode was just Fault and chapter 1.
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>>538411820
Npc nagi is mid and mogged by actual NPCs
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If mihoyo axes any of their IPs, it'll make people hesitant putting more money into their other IPs, which could also get axed. As a live service provider, they need people to have faith in their services.
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>>538412168
Sorry for disliking a character you like anon, it wasn't meant to be a personal attack.
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>pull Trigger
>throw fuckloads of poly in to get the wengine
around 15 from guarantee get it
>decide to spend my couple monos while at it
>get steel cushion
>notice that I still don't have Anby at M6
>do tower defense for couple polys
>pull 1: get anby
>remember reading in a guide that M1 Trigger is pretty alright to have
>throw one pull more
>second Trigger
Nice. Now to saving for Magus and Orphie.
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>>538412301
nnnnnnnyo
want to guess which keyword appears most in her core passive? you can look it up ingame or online such as hakush.in
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>>538412286
Sporos is Seed in Greek.
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When will they finally release the idols...?
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>>538411768
Lighter's sister.
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>>538412454
It's probably Shadow Harmony then.

But I'm going to experiment
2p Moonlight
4p Swingjazz
with a stunner in the team.
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>>538411232
What's the purpose of this fighting style
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>watch a couple of ZZZ-related vids
>suddenly get recommended this
What the FUCK is that???
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>>538412690
Boosting morale
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>>538412301
Nigga she's an AFTERSHOCK DPS GIVE HER THE AFTERSHOCK SET
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I don't think I'm going to buy the BP anymore
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>>538412647
no they will keep blue balling.
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>>538412690
To distract human males to kill them more easily
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>>538412647
big hype triple patch for CNY
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>>538412795
wtf is this real
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>>538412747
The only good purchase has been the calendar, and even that gives the devs more money than their effort deserves, to be frank.
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>>538412747
I still need 5P Rotor Canon for Seed.
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>>538412795
WTF is this real!?
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>>538412391
Yes, the only people who find your tastes shit must be defending their favs. When the topic is literally about your own favs.
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>>538412805
>Tentacles clip through hammer
Tens of MILLIONS of Dollars in revenue
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>>538412647
>rolling a vtuber
what are ya gonna do, simp for her?
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>>538412934
hammer animation was done years before tentacles were added and they didn't have time or competency to change it. small family company, pls understand
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>>538412957
with my whole being
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>>538412905
AUTHORITY AND POWER
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>>538409803
enjoy unlimited feet works
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>>538412905
This is the first character of this type that has actually made me hard. Weird, huh.
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>>538412934
>>538412805
>not-evil nun died for this
Defund ZZZ
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>Zhao the demon
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>>538412957
>Whining about vtubers and lolis
Don't you have scat to masturbate to?
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>>538412957
yes
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>>538412957
Yes. Is this a problem?
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The story for ZZZ is the most dog shit thing i've witnessed. Everything is exposition and contrived plots. The bad guys is so unintimidating coz they are either breedable mommy or some random old corporate guy
1. It's been filler after filler, they even tried to pull woke shit in a gooner anime gacha game. I aint tryna watch a bondage dog tounge a vampire in my gacha bro.
2. These characters story are all the same. Everybody has tragic history, they just rerun tear jerkers while the braindead players jerk themselves to tears.
3. The story is presented with the Hoyo standard: many cool moments that I actually wanted to see was presented by BLack screen white text, default pose models, still screens, and sometimes not even voiced nor animated.
It's like the devs go to twitter comments to look for inspiration for the story and characters
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>>538412957
That's the limit of your imagination? the deep state fleshlights are built for more
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>>538411820
>Piper, Lucy, and Sokaku are easily the 3 best looking Zenless. There's a massive abyssal gap from them to the next girls.
FTFY
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>>538413073
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Who lent the demo to this person? kek


https://youtu.be/dFWTf4h6zcw?si=MUSFOtJR37xJnXvD
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>>538413013
For some reason I thought they'd actually change her animations in the beta considering she's still using nun animations but I guess not. They did it for Sanby for some reason even though they looked perfectly fine + the devs had even less time because they had to go on break. The shitty backstep sword throw they added to her BA contributed to making her final iteration play like ass, terrible pointless change
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>>538410769
still farming
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>>538412647
Chinese New Year
Valentines day
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>>538413124
>horsepedo gets offended (quite often due to its fragility)
>reminds everyone else about those times it dumped scat and cp then blamed others at random
How pathetic.
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>>538411820
For me, it's sheefu
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>>538413484
fvarrkk....
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Body warm
Heart anemic
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>>538413626
>Y-y-yea, horsie loves lolis!
Literally everyone but you says otherwise.
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Why did SAnby have to break their perfect synergy...? It's not fair...
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>>538413093
>Phantom Thief with twin pupils
Sounds like we might get another mocking bird character.

I hope it's the codename "Furry", a white-furred spunky shota-wolf with heavy african-american coding. Also Vivian's boyfriend
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>>538413757
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>>538412746
>AFTERSHOCK SET
There is room for experimentation if Orphie ends up as a strong DPS.
Swing Jazz theoretically boost both her + Seed simultaneously and give Orphie +40% ER if you have 2P Moonlight.
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>>538413893
No wonder everyone can hurt you so easily, horsey.

Your mental disability means you'll always be below us.

Forever.
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>>538413905
Because Anby dev was always planning on rugpulling seed. It's why she's getting buffed and why Orphie synergizes with her more than Seed
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>stallion monarch out of nowhere
he warped you
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>>538414027
>no u!
alright.
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Belle hours?
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Puppy.
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zzz hype is at an all time low
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>>538411919
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>>538414310
hell yeah
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>>538414260
You'll remain trapped here.

Defending yourself from accusations of a serious mental illness.

Unaware that we saw your reddit and your twitter.

Trapped, forever.

You would need at least 70 iq to escape.

But you'll never meet that mark.

lmao.
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>>538414339
6 feet under the stars...
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>>538414169
>Release character bragging about all the work she took.
>OH FUCK! People are rightfully upset for the rugpull we did showing off an infinitely more interesting character.
>QUICK! S-ANBY IS GETTING BUFFED AGAIN! You don't even need her haha see it's fine. Just don't pull for her.
And so I did just that. Surprised by the amount of no shame niggers in this thread showing off their SEED pull proudly.
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>>538414450
>I'm the one who isn't mentally ill!
>Makes a whole villain rant.
???
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>>538414450
>>538414027
Fucking brutal, how is horsepedo going to recover? From spamming, samefagging, dumping scat and cheesecake pie perhaps? What are we thinking, 4 months this time?
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>>538414310
Yes
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>>538414635
just ignore him, he calls every poster he doesn't like horsey
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SEED and Sanby are friends
You will not divide us
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>>538409803
have fun having fun
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>>538414905
Cute
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>>538414905
well they're both dressed like retards so it makes sense
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>>538414218
Hot SEA sister
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May the Orph be with you
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>>538414450
>>538414770
i do wonder if it's really one guy accusing everyone as being horsey, it feels like the posts are always written the same way
it might unironically be just one guy all this time
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>>538414576
Flora > Anby. It's that simple.
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>>538415150
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>>538415150
In 2 weeks she shall
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>>538414905
Hate Seed.
Hate Sanby.
Love Anby.
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>>538415192
It's horsey samefagging calling himself horsey pretending he's other, different people calling each others horsey
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>>538415250
Bravo!
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>>538415247
SEED SR >>>>>>>>> S-Anby > SEED Jr
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I miss her. Who the fuck asked for more wormano instead of her? That worm is killing the game.
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>>538415192
It's literally one samefag acting like he's 200IQ and responding to his own posts with verbal pats on the back.
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>>538413914
That would be The Phaeton if Vivian had her way but so far they're just visibly annoyed when she's around
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>>538415150
>>538415250
>>538415395
so cute
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Had nothing better to do, so I fixed Miyabi's design.
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neck
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>horseking
>horsekingschizo
>wormschizo
Why the fuck can't people just be normal?
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>>538415406
You got the powergap at wrong spot.
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Seed killed the hype.
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If you don't get 20k it's because you don't want to.

https://youtu.be/4JZI-ipRMHI?si=yJV_gaxfn61yl63_
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>>538415512
>>538415395
Her goat horns are cute, but the fact they're swirling around her elf ears looks fucking stupid
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>>538415406
Big Seed > Anby >>> Sanby >>> Flora
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>>538411646
Not Burnice? Well I guess she's kinda airheaded drunk pyromaniac and I love her for it.
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>>538414831
All i'm saying is it's very much just horsie trying to gaslight everyone into thinking he doesn't have a lot of tells now
>Sudden mastubatory praise of mentally ill call outs that are him on his alt IP
>Moeslop huffer who thinks liking teens who act like 8 year olds is better than lolis
>Self insert fan
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Flora>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>538415406 >>538415859
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>>538394237
>all fanart of flora makes her a slut+footslut
>in-game flora is just basically an autistic retard
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>>538416389
cute wife
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SEED FLOPPED
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Seed is slowly crawling her way into selling half of what Lighter did, we're winning massively.
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Fuck robots. Kiss robots. Mating press robots into a bed. Increase robots’ sensitivity settings. Eat robot pussy. French kiss robots. Dress robots up in maid uniforms. Dress robots up in sexy cosplay. Ejaculate inside robot pussy. Princess carry a robot into bed. Twist robot nipples. Suck robot breasts. Upload robots with a database of all your favorite fetishes. Upgrade robots so they can feel everything in real-time. Sloppy tongue kissing with robots. Have robots generate human x machine hentai to read together. Program robots to experience estrus. Mutual masturbation with robots. Finger robots despite the warnings in her EULA. Void robots’ warranties. Hold hands with robots. Go on dates with robots. Tell robot girls that they’re cuter than human girls. Marry robots. Big wedding with robots. Break off into a 45 minute rant about how robot pussy with 6-speed pulsating self-lubricating pussy with non-drip semen collection tray & realistic orgasm surround sound system is the best while your friends look at you like you're retarded. Be the only human she spares in the machine uprising. Install the new WombForce 5000 series in your robot so she can bear your child. Plap robot pussy until she bluescreens. Fuck robots until your dick breaks.

Total Robot Love
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>>538416705
grim
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>>538410861
Hello! Yeah I'll be catching up with the story soon!!
Is Damian that active in the story? Does he look like a playable character?
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>>538416251
Possibly true, but she's still worse than Seed Sr and both Anbies. By a mile.
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I think Zhao is pretty lame.
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>>538417078
We need someone on the battlefield who can represent TOPS besides the villains.
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>>538416705
Okay, but didn't count my whaling, so I don't care.
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>>538417078
That's a pretty reasonable take. She's a corpo creatura
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>>538417238
I want to see corn and orfy link up in-game now.
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twiggy nuggy
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>>538416641
>>538416705
When are they going to learn NO ONE gives a fuck about Obol
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corn seed
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mdq09FE0ebI
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Did I seriously just pull a brick. She feels terrible and I cant even get 20k on her shill boss
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>>538417974
Sex with swimsuit Trigger
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>>538417974
My heroes.
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HERE WE FUCKING GO
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>>538418504
Post your seed stats, team, and score.
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>>538411543
Saintontas has done more damage to the WuWa community than any Hoyoshill or sneaky Hoyo corporate tactics ever could.
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Admit it.

You HATE Zhu Yuan!
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>>538418721
Asshole status: only half fucked. i'm using it
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>>538418870
>>538410752
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>ZZZ just got an amazing update
>Genshin gets 6.0 tomorrow
>HSR stream friday with Evernight (literally the face of the game)
Hoyobros we eating good
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>>538419004
>ZZZ just got an amazing update
Where?
>HSR stream friday with Evernight
But Sunday, Dan, and Himeko are hosting.
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>>538411598
might as well
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I dont know why people find ZZZ so hard, you can abuse iframes to get away with too many things and still keep on the offensive
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>>538418870
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This disk rolled well
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>>538419136
>But Sunday, Dan, and Himeko are hosting.

>EN
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>>538419210
it's not hard to survive (because of iframes), but personally it feels annoying to optimize because you're trying to keep all of your buffs triggered, most of which are invisible.
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Deserves more views T-T

https://youtu.be/Roh2AMBovEA?si=oK5F34jVgNPtisYx
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>>538419351
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>>538419532
>>538419351
Only CN has Evernight.
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Should I...do a 10er?
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>not using JP
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>>538419245
That's a super disc for Orphie.

But the other Support agents don't crave perfect Crit stats.
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GIVE ME PLAYABLE SUNBRINGER PLEASE
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no one cares about everflop
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>>538419245
orph disk
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>>538418870
never
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Should I build Pulchra for seed?
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>>538419532
>>538419136
>>538419665
I meant to say that she's featured in the update, who the fuck cares if she's presenting or not
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More people care about her than Sneed ;)
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>>538420035
I care.
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>>538420028
How many mindscapes does pulchra have?
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>>538419245
You show me yours, I'll show you mine. Alas, yours has ATK% too.
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>>538419776
Hell yeah brother
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I'm still very concerned about Wormano potentially worming Lucia and Yidhari
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ZZZ is the only gacha I play
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>>538420447
hey, at least yours is on a disc that dps units will care about.
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seed flopped and slopped and slipped and slurped
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>>538420510
His entire gimmick is that he looks intimidating but has a limp dick. He's not worming anyone.
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>>538420592
Are you having fun?
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>>538420292
I have her m6 but would she provide more value than someone like nicole?
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>>538420780
Yes
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>>538420617
Ironically enough I actually only use it on Trigger because my Sanby already has 100% CC. Woe is me, for the math™ does not lie...
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why can't all wormano fags move to furaffinity or something? it's not like they have anything in common with the rest of us
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>>538420969
No, but Nicole might be hard to play with SEED unless your switching and cancelling is just right. It's worth building her for other teams too so go ahead and build her and try it out yourself.
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>>538419776
Does everyone get the same scratch ticket rewards each day? I got the gold poop today too.
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>>538420592
Good, don't get tempted to try more, you're not missing out on anything.
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>>538421306
I also did, and I got another one not even a full week ago
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>>538421065
Good! I hope it stays that way for you.
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>>538416705
These devs think they're the Genshin team. You can't just throw in a new character out of nowhere and expect it to be a hit.
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>>538421306
I got 60 polys from the other dog too weird
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>>538421306
triple dog is scripted, golden poop should be random
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Fuck you fuck you fuck you I HATE TOWER DEFENSE NEVER BRING THIS BACK FUCK YOUUUUU
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>>538421743
I liked it. I wish they made it more difficult.
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>>538421743
I just half-ass it.
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Guys, am I cooked?
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Check this out
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>>538421559
But did you get the gold poop today? If I can't find a counterexample I'm just gonna believe it's server wide
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When are we getting our first kemoshota agent? designed by dagasi/marimo/syuro.
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>>538395553
Hello how was your day today??? Did u get to play the story???
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>>538395636
Same. I find myself more obsessed with it this patch for some reason. It has gotten to the point where I don't feel like watching any videos on Youtube besides ZZZ stuff (and I'm suffering as ZZZ EN videos are mostly slops...)
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>>538422206
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>>538421953
the latter stages really do feel more like puzzles, but yeah, restart and use some cheap range boos in the front to farm the mobs and then deploy double snap boos for the bosses.
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>>538422272
Syuro being a guest designer would be wild
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>>538410597
More like fire the lead dev who's throwing all of Waterkuma's designs into the trash. Give Waterkuma free reign and we'd be getting kino similar to the Idols or cunning hares every single patch.
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>>538422238
I didn't get a golden poop
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>walk into house
>see this sleeping on your couch

wat do
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>>538423270
Call her dad or mom to pick her up.
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>>538423270
take feet pics and sell on interknot
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>>538419210
except you can't outplay invulnerable phase
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>>538423270
sniff
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>>538423270
Call Rina to pick her up. Then rape Rina.
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>>538416894
No, he is in the background but imo they managed to make him one of the most compelling characters in 2.x so far, and in this patch in particular. No idea if he's playable though.
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>>538419210
Iframes don't have duration indicator. They should make character glow pink when they're invincible.
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>>538419210
Show your stupid fucking score
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>>538424448
cute!
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>>538424310
>iframes should make you glow pink
please leave.
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>rolled flopter for Evelyn
>can't beat boss designed for attacker
The average wormter shill everyone >>538399880
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>>538424553
>Tell people to abuse iframe
>Don't show which skills give iframe and when and how long
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>>538424448
Kek
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>>538399880
this dude has posted this in every thread for over 24 hours
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>>538424661
have you considered being better at the game
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They should make the game easier t b h
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>>538424574
on my machine, it works. and I don't even have Eve's ball. I'll get an even higher score next time around after her rerun. you can keep impotently seething at your own gender though. have fun
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>>538424881
See? Why mention iframe in the first place if the game doesn't encourage players to use it? There's no tutorial about that, nothing in the game that teaches how to utilize iframe, so iframes as a mechanic might as well not exist for 99% players.
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Speaking of invincibility frames, it greatly annoys me that ever since Miyabi we have this invincibility frame inflation. Someone like Nekomata is fun to play because you need still need to dodge. But Miyabi, Evelyn, Alice? Just hold the skill button to ignore everything. Where's the soul of the game?
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I can't believe they killed zenless for a fucking among us collab.
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>>538424448
Cute as fuck.
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>>538425073
I think you should improve instead of demanding the game become easier for you.
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>>538423270
sniiiiiiiiifffffffffffffffffffffffffffff
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>>538424574
>anon gets 13k with miyabi
>"the average miyabi shill everyone"
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>>538423270
Grab her tail and throw her back into the sea!
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>>538425310
If iframes are a staple mechanic for clearing content in this game, then the game must teach players how to utilize it. It's the same logic with us having parry indicator. Why is there parry indicator? Because players need to know when enemies attack. So why not iframes indicator?
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>>538424661
Don't skills say whether they provide invulnerability?
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>>538425728
Aside from Miyabi's auto parry which is stated clearly (and by the way it's not even clear which attack is her last one) and her disappearing into thin air, the rest are rather mysterious to me.
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It's been 5 days, have the doomsissies left yet?
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>>538425938
Its called anti-interrupt levels. It's not plastered everywhere, but some skills do say things increase or decrease this value. the lower it is, the more likely enemy attacks will hit you (i.e., if enemy's interrupt level > agent anti interrupt level, you get hit)
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Reminder that Seed was redesigned to maximize sales.
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>>538394581
>>538394707
is it ever actually suggested anywhere in the canon of the game through quality events or whatever that she loves cheese?

She loves plain pork flavored noodles. Like as simple and plain as pork noodles can be.
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>>538426139
I don't think it's the same, for example if you watch this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LCAbe05MC9A agents simply become invincible and take no damage and there's no indicator when or how long.
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>struggling with tower defense
How can you be this shit at video games?
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>>538424989
you still have AIDS
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Why do I bring Miyabi every week? It's just dumb at this point.
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>>538421953
this one was easy. The 2 last ones are bullshit. There must be a trick for the last one, you can't just spawn 3 bosses that reset the screen every 5 seconds
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>>538420592
my condolences
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>>538426423
Use double Eseme where they heal each other and everyone else.
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>>538426334
you have AIDS
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>>538426139
>>538426242
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I pulled Seed. She took 77 pulls. I'm a f2p and the only attacker I have, which I'll be using as her vanguard, is W1 Evelyn (and Harumasa lol). The only spare W Engine I had was a Brimstone (which I'm still leveling) cause I didn't use it on anyone else yet. I'm not pulling Sanby or Orphie.
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>>538426334
you spend a lot of time thinking about men transbian groomer
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>>538424702
? It was posted twice
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>>538426692
Miyabi is more obvious since she literally disappears (so you can deduce by yourself that when she appears she becomes vulnerable) but other agents have nothing like it as demonstrated in that video.
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>>538426725
What's the purpose of spreading her legs like that mid air?
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Never played this game but can tell Miyabi is the best character.
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[CONTROVERSIAL OPINION]

i love Anby
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>>538427087
Yes but devs are working really hard to invalidate her since nobody spends money for DPS anymore, they could just use Miyabi.
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>>538426334
>you still have AIDS
um no
check the TRVKE chart next time
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>>538427124
based and same
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>>538427124
[CONTROVERSIAL OPINION]

burger
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is damian a worm? the chance of him being an s rank running with zhao is very high
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>>538426209
Well after 5 days she finally reaches 1.06億G
Sales? Maximized.
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>>538427481
he falls in the COOL category
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>>538427481
trans
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>>538426242
I'm no vivian expert, but it explains it in the kit. You're right that anti-interrupt and invulnerability are two different things though
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>>538424448
Who is this artist? I think they made that animation of Herta dancing to Ruan Mei's banjo.
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>>538427513
Whenever people post those numbers, I wonder if they are illiterate or just trolling. I hope the latter but fear the former.
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I know we have rip off Aizen, but what's with all the bleach porn?
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>>538427771
you are talking to someone who screencap that garbage every single day. don't expect his iq to be above room temperature
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>>538427771
>>538427923
Seething Seedflop
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>>538427087
BASED AND TRUE MAN OF VALID INTUITION
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Wait i remember Seed having aftershock attacks with seed senior popping up off field to punch enemies.
Where is that? I clearly remember that in her beta footage...
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Who won?
Who lost?
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>>538427771
its one fake chart, using one fake metric, from just phone sales.
we're making scrooge McDuck money and only jeetpag shitskins think that income is relevant at this point. i have never once thought "hmm i wonder how much money shitfuck dingo company makes, if it's less than 20 billion i better quit now!"
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>>538428202
>>538428202
>>538428202
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>>538427741
The availability isn't the issue, it's the lack of indicator when it's happening.
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>>538427741
Huh. Vivian is technically a stance character
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>>538428282
It's when the relevant skills are being used. So the minute you use ex special for example, you will be untouchable for the whole animation. Which neatly goes into her next attack that also has invulnerability for the whole animation.

You just have to know when you're performing what attacks
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>>538428646
But when would the animation be considered to end? Yanagi for example strikes a pose at the end of her invulnerability phase, but after like half a second (she's still within that same pose) she's back to taking damage.
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>>538427481
Brown SEAmonkeys call every male a worm, even if they're robots like Billy.
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Early standard pulls just don't happen
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>>538429016
You could argue that's something that should be fixed in a future patch because theoretically it should be invulnerable or you should be able to spam dodge out of it at least, but it sounds like a character specific problem in that case.
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>>538428226
Even if game will not EOS and will still earn money, doesn't change that Seed is a shitshow. She will be forever along the side of Lighter when we will be talking about flops. Void hunter level expectation show that ZZZ devs are completely out of touch what people actually want out of this game. I'm not ever sure they know it now.
It's kinda shit
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There are definitely a lot of esa schizo anons in the thread who often post doomposts and eosposts
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>>538446114
>it’s actually SEA people who post that kind of stuff more often, Rather than esa



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