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Previous Edition>>538484763
that's a woman
I'll probably try steel soul, and when I die to Moss Mother I'll realize the immenseness of my hubris-
>>538526124>>538527728>>538528379>>538527415I just now met Eva. I've nothing upgraded other than the initial upgrade she gives upon meeting her. I have only 1 silk heart and the default 5 masks. 4 crests I think.I spent 3 memory lockets and nothing happened. Just some data for those trying to figure this out.
>>538587175does Eva always upgrades the hunter crest or can you choose the crest that you want?
>>538587682only the hunter
>>538587498Incorrect.
>>538587602I think you need to spend either 1 or 2 more lockets to unlock it, try to spend the one you have left
>>538587756fuck thanks, thought i messed it up by not swapping it
need help: after leaving this room the door closed without me looking to the right. did I miss anything?
Some of the crests feel so bad compared to the others, why do witch, beast, and shaman have objectively worse heals than the others?
How do you get that flea in the vents in the Citadel, the one with the blades?
>>538588318its in an entirely different area, accessible only from greymoor
So what's this about Steel Soul mode having exclusive bosses and zones? Do you at least start with all of your items?
>>538588269beast is kinda cool, you get a mask per hit, if you're in a gauntlet just facetanking and spamming you'll maybe get by
>can double the length of silkstorm by spamming RB>doing so doesn't use up any extra silkAny other secret techs that have been found?
>>538588269Witch heal is overpowered in boss fights. I beat the final boss and the memory bosses with it
>>538588478Not sure it's been documented that well yet, especially stuff in Act III, but at the very least there appears to be an exclusive wish in a new secret area that gives you unlimited shell shards after completing, and gives you access to fight an optional boss that's in a hidden area to the left of bonegrave
How
there has to be a secret ending for beating the game without getting hit after getting the flower
>>538588876look down
is there another tool for increasing silk gain or is that it? feels a bit underwhelming so far
>>538588938Got it, thanks anon
>>538589120this is description seems wrong, it actually gives you 2 regenerating silk bars instead of the 1 from the silk heart
>>538589120There's the one that gives to silk when you take damage. I essentially wear it 24/7.
I won, that's what matters
how do i get the pale oil in the nail shop in the citadel?
>graol the greatwhat the FUCK WHERE THEY THINKING
>>538589394There's a way to upgrade that one if you take 4 extra berries to the cauldron bug.
>Bilewater>barely make it to rest bench with 1 mask left>it's a trap bench, dieSewers/swamp level shittery at it's finest.
>>538590323Lmao you ain't seen nothing yet
man, I really wish this game already had its boss rush mode. I know they're waiting till they put in all the DLC bosses first but I wanna fight some of these guys again.
FUCK i should have saved memory crests
>architectAm I cheating?
>>538590216I did not know this; thank you. I currently gave 1 extra and have 2 extra on hand. Guess I gotta say hi to him again once I get one more.
I am not gay or furry, but I would suck this bug's cock passionately.
>Enter a room>See something interesting, or can't do it yet and back off>First time I'm seeing the place so no map, and not wearing the location tool>Forget to mark it on my map to check later>Turns out to have been the final mask shard I was missing for a long ass time
>>538590636i'm actually looking forward to more tools and crests, more than anythingcause i mean fuck, we already got GUNS
>>538588796>optional boss that's in a hidden area to the left of bonegraveYou know its going to be the knight lol.
>>538589561>>538558659>>538464546>poison cogflysevery time
do you really get rosaries for giving relics to the snake/worm lady in Bellhart? I never noticed it, I was just giving it for completion's sake
TOTAL BILEWATER GENOCIDE
>>538592098yeah, but its dependent on the type of relic you give her
i guess you really do like spiders. you sicko, did you mommy buy you this?
>>538592098Yes, it's the only reward for that stuff
>>538590773Batman fans call it prep time.
where the fuck are these judge larva?!I'm playing my needolin everywhere...
>NylethThis is SO FUCKING HARD
>>538592448https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-qnAPb4KZU
>if you use wormcall on the ground below the pinstress tent you get damaged by the worms and respawned in a pit directly above the worms, chaindamaging you until you die or quitHoly fuck how did this slip by?
>there is a third phase to SkarrsingerAIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE JUST DIE ALREADY JUST FUCKING DIE YOU CANCEROUS PIECE OF SHIT I JUST WANT TO BEAT THE GAME
>float over to ledge>holding towards it entire time>hornet doesn't grab it>fall like a bitchI don't understand. It doesn't always happen either.
I've been trying to get passed this fucking High Hall gauntlet for 90 minutes. It's making me fucking mental. Is Nine Sols really harder than this?
>>538589627please reply i can't stand having only one nail upgrade anymore
>>538589120This is actually clutch for the sprintmaster quest.
>>538592668thank you, got itall I needed was the first 5 seconds to see that breakable wall I missed, no idea what the other 4 minutes of this video is
>>538592975Get the double jump and you can get to a room above the High Halls save that will stop the silkmaidens from spawning.Get all the maps and do Shakra's quest and she'll show up to fight with you.Also just spam tools against the big fat minibosses while hookshoting/dashing above them.>>538593072>>538589627There is one in whispering vault, and one from doing the gourmet quest.
>turned flea brew into Lean with poison charm>can just melt slower damage spongesEbin.
Post which crest you mained throughout the game
>>538593102>he doesn't keep the speed sprint thingamajob on all time
>>538593473If you didn't main Hunter, you didn't beat the game
>>538593547Doesn't that burn silk?
>>538593603it doesn't even burn a single bar running through two screens
>>538593473I've been a Hunterchad the whole game but since the Memory bosses dont burn shards when you die I think I'm going to take the Architect pill.
>>538593473architect but the final boss i went back to reaper cause its very pogo heavy
>>538593243did i softlock myself out of the whispering vault one then?
If hornet is so strong, why didn't she do shit during Hollow knight
>exploring an area>opening brings me to a new area>backtrack to finish the current one I'm in>"oops you can't do that! you need double jump or some other shit">go to new area>same shit happens againoh my god bruh. this artificial backtracking is kind of exhausting. what's the point in locking 5-10% of an area behind some powerup that you won't get hours later just to force you to come back to that shit besides waste time?
>>538593473
>>538593603it adds up especially in boss fights where you drop down one pip below heal cost. i had it on the whole game + silkshot as my main tool and i was pretty much at silk heart amounts at all times.
>>538594051nevermind i'm fucking retarded
>can't use the special memory song on shakra's mombullshit
>>538592537it was the easiest one for me but thats relative. still a whore of a fight.
Shellwood is the best looking zone.
>>538591670>Aiiiiiiieeeee!!! You can't play by the same rules as the boss!!!!!!!! You need to be the only one subjected to stamina or hitboxes!!!!! You didn't beat the game!!! FromSoft-sama save me!!!!!!I KILLED the boss second try btw
>>538590773no, become the flying add boss. fight fire with fire
what's the deal with this room?
>>538594609Use boomerang, hit all 4 targets in a single use. Return later.
>>538590773it's the canon way
>>538594574>fromsoft out of nowhereevery time
>>538594826>bullseyeevery time, cry me a river of blood mr gamer
Cogwork Core, Whiteward, or Fey Mountain after finishing Coral Chamber/Cogwork Dancers?I also have to eventually finish the whole Sinner's Road+ side of the map.
>>538594909not even close lmao, keep seething if you'd like though
>>538595408probably fey mountain.
>>538594750thanks, got it
How do I empower my silk skills with powerful runes? Why does my bind drop me downwards in the air?
>>538595739getting it that late into the game was a mistake. not only do you have to learn the new moveset and gimmicks, you only have the final boss to use it on.
>>538595898>gimmickWHAT GIMMICK?!
I'M BORED OF WANDERER CREST WHEN DO I GET SOME NEW SHIT
>>538590912Wonder if gay mantises still bite heads off after sex.
>>538595963the no tools gimmick. i also dont really know what powerful runes means. i think its a dot on your silk skills but im not sure. the heal feels like shit and im not sure if theres any upside to it either. i dont think theres anyone that actually bothered to learn this crest for the reasons i stated earlier.
>>538596021if you've already got wanderers already then you already have the ability to get 2 more crests besides the base one
Is there a way to enter Verdania again after beating the boss?
>>538596280crests all seem to have hidden little details to them that the game never explicitly tells you. I think powerful runes just means more powerful silk skills.
>HornetxLace Fags after getting the true ending and reading journal entries.
Really wish the beast crest had a blue slot, I guess I'll just stick with hunter
>>538596329nope, and you get the hunter's journal for free after beating boss so it doesn't matter
>>538597703It was one of a few areas I liked the visual, welp
>>538597390yellow crests are pretty worthless for fights except one. beast crest just seems like its gimped in so many ways.
what is the point of the scuttle, it seems almost the same as just dashing in the opposite direction
Why can't bind, skill, and tool all be on one button like HK?>long press bind>short press skill>short press + up/down tool
>>538593473Hunter is my main but I switch to Wanderer if I think Hunter is ill-suited to something. Usually platforming challenges. But I don't have any of the cool late-game ones yet.
>>538597864Well yellow is supposed to be utility and blue is supposed to be defensive. I just like the poison blue slot trinket since it's a DPS gain.
>>538598349would probably mean being able to cancel healing and being able to avoid losing the health you just healed + the silk you usedwe can't have that can we
>>538598543even if you arent tool heavy, just tagging the boss with a thrown dagger every 5 seconds for the dot is a massive damage increase. probably the only real damage increase item in the game thats not the "you take more damage" one.
>>538596920ShakraxHornet is better. ShermaxHornet is better.
>>538598767Yeah, I also like Hunter's damage increase for not getting hit, it rewards you for playing the game properly instead of just tanking shit
>>538596920PLEASE tell me my girl lace can be saved....
>>538599638you can
>>538513718those areas are steel soul exclusive anonthat's why you can't find them
>>538599638She can. There's just other reasons why yurifags get btfo.
>>538591670>they didnt nerf the damage in the patchDeveloper intended strat :3
>>538599638Lace will be the protagonist of Hollow Knight 3.
Can't decide which crest to use and spend my memory lockets on.
asking again, what do i do after being the cogwheel bosses? i don't know where to go,there's like a gate/elevator that tells me to bea 3 bosses or bells
Where do I get the snare setter again in act 3?
>>538600758Did you even pay attention to the dialogue my man it says to go ring three bells in the citadel and even marks all three on your map for you
>>538600367use shaman
>>538600956there's a secret area in the weavernest place in the very first area of the game.Can't remember it's name, too lazy to look it up.The green as fuck area with the fluffy green niggas
>>538593473TECHNOMANCERS RISE UP
>>538601397>P2W
>>538601397what's that harp tool for?
I did it
Just beat Crust King. I was tilting very hard running my 3rd time through the first 3 gauntlet rooms then tilted completely over when I saw there was a 4th but thankfully it was the easiest one. I went to his room and lost which tilted me again but when I went back in I saw the big spire I knocked down let me skip the first 3 gauntlet rooms and I beat that fucker on my 2nd try. So if you never break that spire you'd be forced to go through almost everything again just to attempt the boss? Those poor bastards.
>>538601451Extends the range of needlecord.
Holy tools are crazy strong, i legit didnt hit this fucker a single time
>>538602063tools are super OP, even with the cost of blowing through shards they're pretty spammable
>>538601061dont do that to him man, it might as well postgame when you get it
>>538602246it's not that bad. I still don't know why the bind propels you downwards though
>>538602328what i mean is the guy's gonna be looking up the shaman crest then get hit by like 15 spoilers
>>538601108there's nothing therealso I meant like getting back once you're already in act 3
Just beat The First Sinner on my second attempt and goddamn what a great boss. I was locked the fuck in because I can just tell that's a boss a lot of people are gonna struggle with. Honestly wish I died more because it was such a fun fight I just wanted it to keep going. My favorite in the game so far.
why did they make the rune silk skill so shit, it takes forever to charge and it just attacks in random directions, doesn't even do as much as the other ones it looks like
Just beat act 1STATS>first tried moss mother>first tried bell beast>first tried lace>first tried fourth chorus>beastfly 10th try>first tried sister splinter>widow 7th try>first tried skull tyrant (both times)>first tried conchfly>judge 5th tryHardest part of act 1: Judge and Sinner’s Road.
>beast crest with flea roidshell yeah
>>538602563same anon, especially since widow was my favorite boss in the game up to that point
>>538602584i think theres a bit of tracking on it but its too many delays, first the casting delay, then the sigils' delayed explosion. i dont think you are ever gonna get a window to land it on bosses that matter
>charged attacks don't give silkdid they give soul in hollow knight?
>>538602616I counted my deaths rather than my triesMoss - 0Bell Beast - 1Lace - 0Fourth Chorus - 2Moorwing - 2Sister Splinter - 1Widow - 3Skull Tyrant - 1Moss Mother Duo - 1Savage Beastfly - 2Conchfly - 0, but I somehow missed him and went through most of Act 2 without the charge attackLast Judge - 3
>>538602802What are the lore implications that you wake up outside the cell when you die without leaving a cocoon/losing rosaries/tools restock? Is it long dead? Are you in a dream like HK?
>>538602987You’re so good anon… I KNEEL.I wish Widow took me less attempts. I didn’t have the aoe skill or poison stuff yet, if I did I would’ve had her down.
>>538602894They sucked in Hollow Knight, so I never used them.
>>538602894They did. >>538603308Dash Swipe and Whirlwind were great. Regular charge sucked.
>>538602616>no PhantomYou didn’t beat the act
>>538603176its a dream I'm pretty sure since it works assimilarly to hollow knight
is there anything to do in the secret room that keeps spawning those spiders that steal your silk?
>>538603707you can push a cart towards the light to up to a secret room
>>538603536Where is it? I couldn’t find it and I explored a lot.
>>538602148I spent like 10 minutes grinding rosaries in act 2 and I bought 20 shard bundles to max out my inventory, its super comfy.
>>538603772was there supposed to be something other than the big silk to hit up there? I noticed the soul sucking constructs no longer spawned after so I assume that was the only reward
>>538603823Go back to Sinners Road and there is a secret area to the top left, I believe you have to break a wall. You get to an area called The Mist. You have to navigate through there to get to Phantom
>>538604136yeah, they stop spawning in the whole citadel now
What room should I be killing enemies in for Cloaks of the Choir? The first quest pissed me off because it was so inconsistent when enemies dropped their item and now I'm running around and haven't got a single drop for the second quest.
>shit ton of rosaries>remember there's an old key I can buy at bone bottom>bone tryant out of nowhere
PSA that there's no reason at all to do the Bellhart-Citadel meat run without the double jump. One of the other ingredients requires it, you're not finishing the quest without it.
>>538604316just the pilgrim enemies with white cloaks on, all of them should drop an item so long as they don't fall in a pit or in spikes
>>538604316the pilgrim bugs, not the knight bugs or the bell-staff bug
Silky silky hornet sex.
>>538604151Fuck. I found Styx in Sinner’s, freed mantis, and left.
Reminder you can cheese Moorwing in Act 2Lure him into the shack on the top left of the map, move off screen from him for a bit and he should eventually get himself stuck against the wall.
Off topic but how do I install this shit?It just keeps saying connect?Why isn't there install?There's normally install.Can I not install this game if im playing it?
I love how shameless of a ripoff Whiteward is of the Research Hall in Bloodborne. My first few steps in and I got the same vibe and noticed it was the same color palette. Thought it reminded me of the research hall, then saw all the medical stuff, and then the story stuff implies pretty much the same exact thing is going on in trying to use Silk/The Old Blood to treat them/make them ascend>>538604609You don't really need to do it right now. There's an entrance from an Act 2 area and desu if anyone did notice the area in Act 1 is either EXTREMELY perceptive or looked up a guide and I guarantee most people that said they just stumbled on it are lying and looked it up.
These signs are so mean.
I'm trans
>>538605279Lol I posted about this a day ago. I barely caught this. I stepped into the room on the right and was like "Wait a minute" and went back and saw the actual arrow
>>538602616>beastfly 10they need to fix the rng on that motherfucker
Sister of the void ending be like lmao was good nigga, you look like shit
>>538588269witch and shaman have overpowered attacks, if their heals had no downside you wouldn't use anything else.
>>538605863Are witch's double-hits actually strong? I'm not feeling like they're doing much more damage than a single hit.
>>538605839How do you get that ending?
can you upgrade the nail more than once before last judge? cause holy fuck it feels like I'm hitting it with a wet noodle
>knocked lace off the platform into lava>knocked lace off the platform into the cloudsshe's still kicking my ass but i think i won a better victory
So is this bench in Sinner's Road just a lie or whatMy rosaries are SO FUCKING FAR AWAY NOW
>>538604693how is this easier than fighting him???
did you even have to fight last judge? i got into citadel through the organ.
>>538606337top left of the room
>>538606173It's a process>Do most of the wishes in the game>Beat lace 2>Build and fight the clockheart sentinelEventually this retard will call you over whenever you're in songclave and hornet will bring up saving the kingdom rather than taking over and start one big questline. Follow that questline and you'll unlock the real last part of the game.>>538606337There's a secret wall that lets you fix the bench.
>>538606045it's the range that's good
Is there a point to the room that unleashes these aside from TC going "lmao get trolled idiot?"Is there anything in the room above that room besides the path to the Pale Oil? It's a big room and I didn't check every nook and cranny.
damn widow was a shitty fight. just standing there waiting for her to stop alternating bell patterns so i'm allowed to move.
does the flea brew poison if I have pollip pouch on?
>>538605279These signs are SO MEAN. >>538605583I don't get it.
>>538605863witch heal is an upside, it turns your heal into a silk storm that you can use to 1 shot annoying flying enemies + it also deal good damage on bosses
I destroyed the life saving bridge, I'm retarded.
>>538606681yes
You cannot be serious.
is there a better rosary farm than the three pilgrims next to the bench before high halls?
last thing I'm missing
I want to unlock the Witch crest but at the same time I don't because I don't want to get locked out of the achievement and don't feel like replaying the game again just for thatWhat do
>>538608228get the achievement first and then get the crest
I got the other two hearts with minimal difficulty but this fucking ant is piledriving me into the dirt, how the fuck did you Act 3 chads deal with Skarrsinger?
Fuck Karmelita. Phase 1 and 2 are kino, third is absolute cancer.Tacks are the best tool in the game, I just used those and deleted that retarded phase.
>>538608082right here is a ok place to farm meter by hitting that one passive bug then reentering the map, sneak a bit more silk for a midway heal. its not a great solution but anything to make the runback more bearable.
>>538608228Care to explain? What achievement?
>>538605658I posted those in the order I did them. Honestly I was kinda asking to get fucked over because that fight is definitely way easier with the AOE skill instead of the spear. Also I didn’t have spike shards at the time.
how do i get up there? the map shows it but i havent been there yetI got the double jump and needle lance but still cant get up
>>538608318I used all 8 cogflys for the normal enemies first then honourabu 1v1'd karlemita? more like sexomita
>>538608449go around from the far left.
>>538608318I just hit her when she got close and chucked projectiles at her when she tried to use her own ranged attacks, preferably multi-hit ones so its harder for her to parry those
What now? Where do I progress next canonically?
>>538608185i think those are the voltvessels? its the electric place in the memorium
>>538608318Use the tacks like I did. It will delete her last phase.If she still got any hp after that, just use the parry skill.
>>538608421Killing the final boss while cursed with the witch shit (not unlocked)
I’m not gonna platinum this game because I’m too old for speedrun achievements but I’ll try steel soul out. Will probably die to the judge.
>>538608603Left of shellwood into the blasted lands or greymoor up into sinner's road
>>538608603left of shell wood
>explore one direction>locked room gauntlet>explore another direction>locked room gauntlet>explode a third direction>boss with adds
>>538608709I did the speedrun cheevos in HK and it wasn't so bad, if you follow a guide and make sure to keep a cheeky alt+f4 ready at all times it shouldn't be too much of an issue
>>538608656thank you
>>538608874NO ESCAPE
>>538608880Maybe. I’ve heard it really isn’t that bad (easier than Zero Mission 100%) but HK and SS are such long games.
>tfw you're trying to jump over an enemy and they sight read you by jumping up into the air to do their downward attack at the most inopportune moment
apparently my last mask shard is in an area in far fields ive not even discovered yet, anyone know how to access it?
impenetrable defenses
>>538596920i don't think that canon has ever been an impediment to shippers of any kind, brother
been hearing about run backs in this game but they aren’t that bad at all? last judge took me several tries but the runback was alright, you don’t have to fight all the enemies.
>>538609256Requires being in Act III, you won't be able to get all the mask shards until then.
>>538609256how do you know there's a mask shard there?
>>538609383by looking it up b4 heading into act 3
>>538609339theres a singular runback thats particularly brutal which is probably what most people mean
wait i just did shakra's wish to find her master. she won't disappear right?i still don't have the ghost area map and the slab map, but i think the slab might be like the citadel where you get the map from interactable stuff in the area.and the area above bilewater too.
>>538609494She won't disappear, I don't think the game let's you soft-lock yourself out of anything like that.
>>538609430the trap sends grandmommy silk into the void but it backfires and covers the whole of pharloom in abyss goop
should I beat the true ending boss with beast or shaman next?
You're starting to feel it. The game just isn't very good.
>>538610683Yeah it's kinda lackluster after such a long wait but at least it's still better than Hollow Knight
>>538610683I felt that way at first around the start of Act II, but the further into the game I got the higher my opinion went up. I've 100% it now and think it's a pretty good game. When they release pantheon + other dlc it probably will be better than HK+DLC for me.
what's his endgame?
I'm struggling with this goddamn dodge trial more than with most bosses.
>>538610683It is Hollow Knight plus boss fights minus Vista and atmosphereI'd say it's a loss
>>538611449keep your finger on harpoon because it could save you if you get hitalso bounce on some fleas to get height that could help
>>538606364Because you just jump to the top, let him in, jump out? He does not move or attack once he's stuck.
>>538611449>struggling to get 65>doesn't even know the true pain and suffering that's awaiting later on
I found the Architect and the Cogfly room but I have no Craftmetal
>>538611516>>538612221Don't tell me there is more if this crap. Even current result took a lot of effort.
>>538612314
>>538612376Who is this motherfucker?!
>>538612314It's not need for in-game 100% or achievements, but if you want true 100% you need much, much higher.
Just got my first Eva Upgrade for Hunter's Crest what does focus do exactly? Should I switch back to Hunter's or keep using Reaper?
>>538613537attacks are a little stronger while you have enough silk for a heal
>>538612447Seth is a make a wish foundantion kid who visited Team Cherry before he died, and they made a character for him. Its actually quite sweet.
groal the gigafaggot
>>538613915gj
>>538610683No I'm 40 hours in and its easily game of the year. It has some blemishes but the good far outweighs the bad.
>>538608709I think the 5 hour speedrun might be fun once I get better at the game. The 100% in 30 hours is definitely beyond me now though.
>>538614102steel soul > speed run
>>538614102DUde im at 40 hours and I just finished Bellhart. Am I retarded?
WHY DO SPIKES DO 2 FUCKING DAMAGE???????????????????????????
>>538614274Maybe you like to take your time exploring and doing quests.
i know i'm supposed to go up there but i can't reach it.
Any missables to do before going into Act 3? Like enemy entries that stop spawning there?I already did the missable Shakra fight and cursed ending.
>>538615107Act 3
>>538615107where is this?
>>538609305How do I get shards to keep this shit up? Also, what else are you using with architect?
>>538615145You can keep playing after the cursed ending??
>Defeated Skull Tyrant as a part of Bone Bottom's quest>Returned to Bone Bottom>ANOTHER Skull Tyrant appeared out of thin air and fucking murdered every NPCWTF?! Is this a bug or just a sick joke? I understand if that was some other monster, but I fucking defeated Skull Tyrant for sake of Bone Bottom already, why my action don't matter?!
>>538615416Yeah, the game reloads after you do the Act 2 endings until you do the one that puts you into Act 3.
>>538615530Oh, so you can get multiple endings and then get to act 3? I never finished hollow knight so this question may be retarded
>>538614102The 100% is waaaaay easier than you think if it's your second time through and you're using a guide. The 5 hour one is the only one that actually requires a bit of skill and planning.
>>538613906kind of based
>>538615476>why my action don't matter?!On the contrary, wouldn't this imply it does matter? For the quest you went to where a Skull Tyrant was living, killed it and brought its crown piece to the town. One would assume that the mate of this aggressive creature came for revenge.If you never had killed it, spoiler probably wouldn't have happened.
>>538615145I'm pretty sure it's designed to not have missables so you should be good.
>>538614417ALL ENVIRONMENT DOES 2 DAMAGE!!!!!!!!!
what do i do with this?
>>538617531one of the items needed to get act 3
i refuse to believe people didn’t use a guide to find the vintage nectar and the pickled maggot
quite frankly: owned
>>538617596The only thing I looked up was how to get into act 3. Revisiting sinners road made me find the pickled maggot boss and halfway home is on the way so I found the nectar too.
>>538617701This fight made me finally start using silk spells
>>538617596You don't need a guide for any of them. I feel like some people missed this, but if you talk to the quest NPC he'll always give you a good hint where to find the next item on the list.
>you can use the green prince heart as a substitute for one of the act 3 heartsAm I bricking my save? I cant beat that fucking ant right now.
>>538618785Nah, you're good. The 4th heart becomes a memento for your collection.
>>538618785I did that too lolI couldn't find the heart in shellwood and ended up finding green prince frist
>>538617596I was very big brained for the nectar and found the maggot by chance. Thats what wandering around for 45 hours gets you.
>>538618854>>538618872Oh thats a relief. I'll get that fucking ant some other time then. Really cool they let you pick 3 out of then. Act 3 continues to surprise me.
>>538613915>wreath of purityAt least you did the right thing to went through the ducts first. I've reached this guy from the bilewater side and was absolutely miserable.
I know you can destroy one of the elevator hatches in Terminus using picrel. Are there any other objects breakable with this drill?
>>538608185what charm is that on the right of your silk skills?
>>538619093oh believe me i only went to the ducts to find the wreath because groal was impossibleblocking healing against a boss with adds, 2 damage projectiles, and a gigantic hitbox is truly game design
>>538619221What the fuck???
>>538619237go to the very top of the middle vertical room in sand of karak and use your super jump to go even higher
>>538619247anon, you can get to the boss arena without touching maggots and if you do you can just heal them off you when you get your silk cocoon on the runback.
Are there any endings besides the basic 3 + shroom + curse ?
>>538619761the arena has maggot water and it's essentially an instadeath zone without the wreath
I just spent 250 Rosaries to clean up Bellhart, what the fuck changed?
>>538619847The maggot water is actually a really safe spot for the fight. It's surprisingly easy to not get hit there
>>538619993you are 250 rosaries poorer
>>538598094it has i frames, and you can crawl up walls
>>538620064Fuck those niggers at team cherry.
is there a better deal for rosary strings than the 140 one at bellhart?
>>538620134I can't believe these kikes made the Compass take up a yellow slot. This should've been the default.
>>538619993More stuff will gradually unlock, you'll see later.
https://youtu.be/INHsK43dXaQ?si=dsOLPXvGHcQDeGqE
This fight was a lot of fun. I really enjoyed it.
>/v/ janitors already deleting threadsLets hope that people will go here to discuss and not disperse between random bait threads.
>>538617596>bar where npc talks about enjoying nectar and offers you some for rosaries>HOW COULD ANYONE EVEN CONCEIVE GETTING NECTAR FROM THE NECTAR BAR?You mite b rarted
Still can't decide if I should stick to OG Hunter's Crest (Upgraded once) or Reaper (Big juice silk) or Wanderer (I know in my heart that is prob the highest dps I can spam atk with heavy belt)
>Filtered by flea gamesThey're so hard
>Lost VerdaniaHoly kino
>>538621809Reaper for BounceShaman + Longnail for Jugglegit gud for Dodge
>>538621952I've noticed a weird thing for bounce is that sometimes the double jump doesnt come out you just start floating, it makes the challenge a lot harder
Yeah, I'm not doing this
Brooooooooooo. TTT-TTT
>>538622197I hate that fact they don't give you the option to make copies of your save. Shit like this is why I'm paranoid.
>>538622197serves u right cheater
>>538622269Fuck you. I didn't cheat. I was in Greymoore, near the bird area and then did happened. I've even posted videos of my gameplay in these threads. I've been working my ass of in honest.
>instantly forget bell puzzle order
>>538622197>>538622258>>538622364Could this be why? I ran out of space and the game just stopped saving?
460k all time peak for a metroidvania??? is the game good??
>>5385876024 lockets gives you the yellow slot10 lockets gives you the blue slotupgrading every crest to it's max slots gives you 2 of each slot on the venticrest
>>538622542>232 GBAnon has a tiny C
Parry feels so strong, makes a lot of annoying enemies really easy.
>The Unraveled>Players are gonna use tacks right?>Bloat the HP and give the most boring movesetwhat a shit boss
>>538622783That's 'cause I have a big D.
>>538621952>got 42 for the bounceFUCK
>>538622983>1.81 TB>big
SHIT! So uh. Fairly earlygame player here. Accidentally apparently dodged Moorwing by moving the flea caravan. And now he's getting nerfed. Any way to fix this?
>>538622957I got tacks only after beating him, haha... What an op tool for ground bosses.
>>538623069What do you want to fix? He will appear for you again later as you progress through the game.
I've died 7 times trying to make the jump I'm about to punch a hole through my monitor.
>>538623069Don’t download the update
No, I will not use tools like a faggot.No, I will not spam silk skills.Yes, I will only use wanderer and make the harpoon my main means of attack in bosses as my range is too short and they jump around too fast.Yes, I will die a million times until it finally clicks and I start dancing circles around them like a doped gorilla in the special olympics.
i'm not very far into the game (i'm on sister splinter) but i've seen sherma in streams show up in places i've been and she's not there. i feel like i've bricked my save somehow. i can't find her anywhere. pretty sure i've only seen her at the gate in the very beginning
Now that the silk has been sung, what is best track?
How many endings does Act 3 have?
>>538623248I pogo the balloon then what? what the hell am i suppose to do here
>>538622678>upgrading every crest to it's max slots gives you 2 of each slot on the venticrestno it doesn't
>>5386236854
>>538623723can't you float to the right under platform or something?I don't remember there being anything complex at that section.
>>538623683the bone bottom music hits me every time
>>538623685only oneand your entire world is voidfucked foreverenjoy
First NPC I met that doesn't sing. Poor guy.
>>538623683I like the cogwork core track
>>538623879he did it to himself, intentionally
>>538624027I mean, I guess? He's still utterly fucked. Even all the half-dead husks sing
I don't like swarm-type fights because it is too easy to get into dead-end situation where no possible actions would save you from taking damage. Cues are useless if every enemy have own cue, and every inch of the screen is covered in enemies.Maybe pro-games can execute thinking ten steps ahead so they never get into this situation to begin with, but I have to rely on luck to get through those types of fights.
>>538624141just use silkstorm to aoe enemies
>>538624141use your silk skills, dumbass
>>538624141Tools and silk skills made it much easier for me
>>538621390>remember this dialogue 3 hours into your playthrough 40 hours laterkill yourself
>>538620564Welp, laser one looks cool. Wish I knew about that before repairing.
>>538624185>>538624235I use it at the beginning of the fight, but then I have to save silk for heals because my masks aren't full... I'll try to use them more.>>538624286Tools use shell shards, after a few deaths they run out.
>>538622039Apparently they're fixing that in the upcoming patch. But it happens when you keep holding down button. So as long as release down button right after the attack it should work fine.
I can't seem to even do the first jump on the second section of Fey Mountain. Hornet just hits her head against the damn platform right next to it. When I do make it past the first bug, I hook the loop, hook the bug, and I'm a good foot below from being able to hook the second bug. I don't understand how I'm supposed to make the hook bounce go higher on that third bug or prevent Hornet from hitting her damn head on the first.
>>538625090post a screenshot
>>538625149https://youtu.be/gewuXYllCjM?t=221
>SHAKRA HELPS ME FIGHT THE SHITTY ANT GAUNTLETthis game can be kino sometimes
>>538625090you're either too slow or spamming the button too fast as soon as it hits
Its a masterpiece. It has some flaws but its all so minor compared to the love and care that went into so many aspects. Its a genuine triumph of creativity, and the fact that we're getting DLC just makes it even better. Fucking MASTERPIECE.I am genuinely curious if Lace is going to be an extra character or maybe a protagonist in a future Hollow Knight game, they have a prime setup for a redemption arc.
>>538619221I had a suspicion that this is a tool for opening the map. But I never find a place to use it
>>538622053Its like a 300 rosary reward lmao, I got scammed thinking you'd get something else cool.
>have to listen to crying every time I open my inventory
>>538622983clean your TEMP folder from trashand 80% of local and roaming in AppData could be deleted
>>538625726>t we're getting DLChuh?Is this confirmed?
>>538622957I used saws and it worked just fine. I didnt think it had a crazy amount of health for how much raw damage you can pump into it.
>>538623683Bellhart music activates my neurons UNTIL IT GETS FUCKED UPThe Citadel theme, Clockwork Core and Bilewater are all peak. In terms of boss music I'd probably have to give it to Phantom and Widow and of course Lost Lace.
>>538625726I still say she needs proper correction
>>538624141You sense the swarm room? Start throwing tacks on the floor and try to silkstorm only once. You need to start each wave with silkstorm or its over.
Does anyone know if the last one is in Act 3? I’m trying to complete the bestiary 100% before going there
>>538626079>"The most interesting thing now is what can we add to it next," Ari Gibson continued. "We got a plan. Admittedly, some of the plans for that stuff are kind of ambitious as well, but hopefully we can achieve some of it."I'm assuming a Godhome-esque update is a given but I'm curious what else they have in mind.
>>538626354I bet the next game will be about Plasmium or whatever it was
>>538626497I thought plasmium is just a Joni juice.
Also, are there bees in the Silksong? I couldn't find any, maybe snails? Any species from the Hollow Knight?
>>538626674Snails are in, and you see a single bee in a memory
Wow. You can literally miss a secret room behind a breakable wall in the Architect's room. It's just lore-related and not an item, but still...
throwing boomerangs at homeless people is so lucrative and easy that i may never stophttps://files.catbox.moe/m35u0o.mp4
>>538626349https://mapgenie.io/hollow-knight-silksong/maps/pharloomThere's a searchable interactive map for things like that, anon
>>538626354LET'S GOOOOOOOOOO
Why didnt Hornet just ask the Knight for help in the first place? He runs the Void! Is she stupid?
>>538626349i found them with these mapshttps://steamcommunity.com/app/1030300/discussions/0/595159519774019090/
>>538626674There's wasps.
>>538602616I made it to act 2 without hitting sinners road or hunters marcj
>you can get the dash in 12 minutesFeels like this is going to be a fun game to speedrun.
>>538627395Skipping Sinner's is fine, it's cancer. Hunter's March has two really good vendor items that help with Act 1 though.
>>538627215>538627215She didn't do jack shit back in HK, she doesn't know anything happened inside the dreams
How do endings work in this game? I can get them all in one run?
>>538627657There is one ending that can be only done in act 2
>>538627657Yes but at least one is missable in act 3, so make sure you do them in act 2. It involves you getting cursed during a quest and you have to beat the final boss before the curse is removed.
do i have to go through greymoor>sinners>bilewater>underworks>vaults to deliver the goddamn rashercan't i go through shellwood>steps>citadel
>>538593473Exclusively witch as soon as I got it.Except for the bonfire boss, fuck that guy I used wanderer
>>538627823Yes? Why wouldn't you be able to?
>>538627823I'd choose the easier path out of two you listed
>>538627823Yeah shellwood/steps/citadel is the way to go, prekill the enemies if it helps you out.
>>538627892>>538627895>>538627896there's no entrance into the citadel from grand gate
>I have to rebeat the entire game because I did the witch quest in act 3Noooooooooo but its actually fine because I fucking love this game and now I have an excuse to replay it with a different crest and route!
>>538625726>redemption arc.what did she do that warrants a redemption arc?
>>538627986The scales in the gate aren't just for decoration.
>>538628006why do you have to rebeat it?
>>538627986???You go up the platforms in the grand gate and break a wall midway up, you can see the partial path on your map.
>Struggle with the juggling minigame for a while>Friend reaches the location>Is done with it in like 15 minutes>Won juggling first trySome people are just inherently better huh?
>>538628067Hornet believes she is worthy of redemption and life or she would have killed her.>>538628116I want the achievement and title screen art.
>>538628006You can cure that.>>538628067>Maintains status quo of shit civilization>Lashes out and purposely sets it all to go to shit by shoving herself and mother down the void>Bratty brat
>>538628261No I mean I missed out on the cursed ending because I already had triggered Act 3.
>>538628097that caught me off guard. fell down, thought i couldn't get back up. struck one of them in anger and realized "oh, neat"
So I got the Parry, feels great to hit, but I gotta say, its pretty weak, sure it gives you invincibility, but like Silk Skills do so little damage its crazyLanding a skill like that should do more than 2-3 Needle swings if its gonna cost me silk
>Keep forgetting I can use clawline for extra mobility everywhere, and boss fights for some reason
Killed grand silk mother and got presumably the default ending where you suck her up and get a cool health barIs there someone to speak to ingame to get clues for the other endings or do you just google it at this point
how do i get spine cores to drop?
>>538629116google time
>>538629116you can reload your save and try to do any town quests you missed
>They have "plans" for additional contents>Meaning it's not even in development>The wait will be at least one (uno) year
>>538629161Hit the spines the dudes shoot out
this fight is tilting mei have no FUCKING room to do anything
>>538629578hint: use your tools
>>538629116I'm going to beat it at least three times anyway. >1st exploratory playthrough>Speedrun 5 hours>100% speedrun in 30 hours>Steel soul 100%Plenty of time for alternate endings.
Should I play Hollow Knight 1 blind? I want to be able to do all the DLC and true ending and dont want to miss out on anything
>>538629623i'm yet to find one i likeguess i should buy the trap one
>>538629578Have you tried being better at the game
>>538629683yes
>>538629578>Got his shit pushed in>See full toolsuse your tools nigga. i will never understand this philosophy of whining about dying when you're gimping yourself out of half or more of your damage
>>538629578Kill the flying guy while playing keepaway from the big guy, use your tools
>>538629683See>>538629665I played through Hollow Knight 3-4 times, and never regretted it. Don't try to achievementmaxx on your first run. You'll sap all the fun out.
Its kinda weird how Silk is one of the easiest bosses in the game after the entire narrative hypes her up as a serious threat, and Act 3 doesnt even add a turbo void version.
>>538629684I like the bomb that explodes into like 6 spine needles. Does huge damage.
>>538627776Bro you can't be seriousI won't get that ending because I wanted to get rid of the fucking vine shit?
>>538630018not just easy, zero creativity as wellI thought we were gonna have more bosses like 4th chorus
>items and money get destroyed if they hit spikesoh okay
Is act 3 just the final boss or something?I feel like I been to ever major region in act 2
>>538630162I'm sorry bro
>>538629684Boomerang is dope for early game and you can upgrade it in Far Fields if you use it in the ant training room.
I beat the Bell Beast but at this point I'm not sure if I'm heading in the right direction. Should I be going through the ant area or through Deep Docks?
missed the bench in the exhaust organ at first. screw going through the mists multiple times and also was platforming like an idiot and died in the gauntlet to unlock sinners' road's bench multiple times. fun times
i can't for the love of me dodge projectile attacks, especially the bouncing ones. how do i get good?
>>538631371>spoilerswut? damn. was wondering what the deal with that room was since it has a special sign and tried the throwing knives
>>538631540Whichever you want. I went to the ant one first. The platforming scared me and the enemies were strong. So I ditched it and went deep docks.
anyone know where the "memorium" is in the citadel?
>>538631870you need a double jump to access it. you'd know which place.
>>538631371I used it there multiple times and nothing happened...
>>538631540deep docks is far easier and less frustrating. the ant area has annoying arenas and boss that don't really give any good rewards (except for the merchant). no bellway either but the annoying ants drop 13 beads each so it is profitable
when does the throwing knife minigame guy show up?
>>538632654i got it after beating widow but not sure if that's the trigger. might be meeting the thief in another location as well since that means he has vacated the premises?
Sinner's RoadBilewaterPetrified DucksTHe trifecta of shit areas
>>538632065They didnt set up 4 targets that you need to hit? Weird, maybe its an act 2 or even act 3 thing, an ant shows up that you can give the boomerang too.
>>538633602Sinner's Road is much easier than the rest thoughAlso Ducts is really short
>Cog dancersPure kino.>>538623248Wait, there is something out there? I just went back.
>>538633602not only does it feel like blight town, it really is like going through blighttown as your first bell to ring on your first run
>>538633761sinner's road isn't too bad and its short but i screwed up the bench gauntlet a few times which just made the place an annoyance
Bros where the fuck do I get craftmetalI found one (1) piece in the petrified ducks and I need like 5 more
shakra is a beast, i can't manage to damage her
>>538631595Deflect with a nail.
>>538634201How do you fight her?
>>538634201honestly annoying fight. rng will dictate the fight because her teleports are random and getting hit by an unexpected ring after a teleport will happen a lot. what i did was play defensively and only attack after a ground sweep or ground pound. only heal during staggers or ground sweep.>>538635726not sure about the trigger, but a wish from her will appear at the bellhart wish board. finish it and go to where the flea caravan or moorwing was in graymoor. hit the ring.
>>538636265Is that in act 2 or 3?
>>538636379act 2 only
>>538636424Dang, I missed it. What's the reward?
>>538636514nothing
>>538633824husbind
>>538633824how do you get this to happen?
>>538628592silk skills just don't feel worth it when tools are so strong and healing is so powerful.
>>538636583So, the usual boss reward
What's the point of using the cogwork heart to awaken the sentinelDoes it go further than it randomely appearing?
>>538637237He gets a sidequest later
>>538589120Not to my knowledge, but there are charms that effect how the silk bar works & let you use more skills/bind more times There's the Druid's Eye which makes you gain some silk when taking damage The Spool Extender which adds 3 extra pips to your spool maximumThe Reserve Bind which lets you bind 1 time without having the silk for it and Egg of Flea which reduces the cost of silk skills when at full health
>>538624395Not my fault you are mentally inept, take up all complaints with your parents.
wtf to do here?
Considering the weavelight adds +1 spool to your auto regen using it on a caster build would let you spam skills consistently since your spool would always be at 4 notches
>>538611449I didn't struggle at any real point during the whole game, except trying to finish these flea games
>>538627823There's a shortcut between greymoor and underworks that makes the route much better. Also you do underworks>choral chambers through The Stage.
>>538629578I was b*tching about it yesterday (>>538542740). I honestly think it's harder than most, if not all, the boss fights up to that point.>>538629684I just put all my faith into the main nail. It's doable, but one will have to work for it.
>>538587175>everbloom fades away in the middle of the void>hornet about to be fucking EATEN by the void>the knight steps up to save her assPEAK
1) Are there enough ores / memory slots to unlock everything in one playthrough?2) Which zone do I need to scour to get into that dome under Underworks? Or is it a questchain. No spoilers, just the zone.
>>538602616i'm not the best player ever.>moss mother 2 tries>bell beast 3 tries>lace 5 tries>fourth chorus 1 try>beastfly 4 tries (i did it in act 2 cause i missed it somehow)>sister splinter 12 tries>widow forgot but i don't struggle much>skull tyrant 3 gries and 1 try>conchfly forgot>judge 10 tries
>>538637748you need to align them but it's kinda weirdNot too hard though
>>538638049there are enough ores to get everything BUT i recommend getting architects stuff first so you dont forget it laterthere's 20 memory stones which im pretty sure is enough to max every crest
>>538634090At the bottom of that looooong vertical shaft in Farfields, if you go to the left bottom most door, you'll get to a path that has a secret passage at left at the top. After that, that one has a fake wall on the left. Once you enter, you'll be in Deep Depth. Far left has a craft metal iirc.
>>5386380491. yes2. not sure what you mean, which dome under the underworks, the big red thing?
I'm finishing up my HK1 playthrough now that I got the asspull true end in silksong. What exactly is the voidheart? Did every vessel canditate have one but it got destroyed as they couldn't handle the power? Doesn't make sense as it's a corrupted form of the godsoul but it is still hidden away from anyone that could/should use it.
Is it just impossible to get 2 more lockets to fill up ever single crest? I hit 100% completion, and was missing two to fill out Shaman
>>538638049Greymore for 2
>>538630018They'll do a super version in DLC
FUCK THIS SHIT
>>538625090I figured I was pressing jump after hooking the bugs so I made sure not to press anything after hooking, I also suicided for full silk at each bench which helped a ton. Got the rest first try when I started the game up again. Wayyyy easier than it was earlier.
>>538615310just buy shards, farming beads is way faster than farming shards and the shops sell you unlimited bundles, just break them when you need it
>>538639113i enjoyed that. felt much better than the colosseum with shifting arenas. the only surprise was the final wave but they're only about as or slightly less difficult as watcher knights.
>Japanese reviews sitting at 68%I get the chinese memeing on it because of translation issues, but whats up with nips?
What's the best way to farm Rosaries in Act 3?
>>538639441Nips are very picky about scoring things. for example, restaurants with tabelog score 3.5+ are considered A tier.
I found a bucket of flintstone in the deep docksIs it to upgrade a tool or something?
Are Hornet's heart palpitations that only happen twice in the game ever explained? I'd like to see how the fuck she got initially captured in a dlc too considering she was at full power.
>>538639113There's two ways to make this easier>The room above this one has a way to disable the spiders forever>If you finished up the last request from Shakra, she'll be there and offer to you help you during the fight
>>538639820I think it's just meant to be her still being in shock, or hurt from what happened to her, but trying to shrug it off, and needing more rest to get over it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TbimcpiAkEU
>>538639441Using google translate it seems they're mad at the difficulty. Didn't expect nips to bitch this much about it.
Bros....Joseph Anderson Just said he doesn't like silksong....
>>538640281I don't care.
>>538640281who?
>>538640239very strange because they're the ones to pioneer bullshit difficulty games like bullet hells and dark souls
>>538640725That has nothing to do with it as this is a sequal to HK which was very casual and had almost no platforming
>>538639945damn wish i knew this before
>get spirited away in the mist and enter the citadel through the organ>go all left while exploring>there's suddenly a door from the side I entered that's supposed to need a song to openReally took me out there. They could have either placed a lever behind the door or just make it unlockable from the left side only, this was a huge oversight.
The difficulty in this game feels way more fun and skill based than anything any souls slop game ever did. Thanks for reading my blogpost.
>>538641192I love hitting 7 or 8 times to kill a flying enemy while waiting for it to come near for each hit
>>538641415Unless you're ignoring nail upgrades, nothing needs that many hits to kill except void infused fat fucks from Wilds, but those are not mandatory kills, and they're easy as shit.
i'm starting to believe that exhaust organ is an "exhaust organ" (the leaky asshole of the map) instead of a musical organ. that would fit in with the rest of the areas near it
i get to act 3 without getting the architect key, i can still get it right?
Are there any shortcuts for bilewater fight runback?
>>538642227Yes.
>>538640281Didn't he also disliked elden ring because it was "too hard"?This guy is a joke anyway. 3hours long video with little to no substance to it, only paraphrasing the games he talks about.
>>538642376I think part of his point was more that the bosses kinda sucked and were obnoxious. And he would be right.
So, I take it no one has found this game's equivalent of the path of pain yet?
What crest we rocking boys?
>>538642265Actually, any tips for the fight in general... That gauntlet is insane
>>538642784What game are you talking about anon? Silksong or ER?It's definitely true for a lot of silksong bosses.
>>538642868ER. Even the shittiest silksong bosses were fun to me. I fucking despised most of the elden ring bosses.
>>538642864Poisonous Cogfly and the spear tool (don't remember the name). Nothing else.Went from not even being able to clear the first 3 waves to clearing it after 4 tries once I got cogfly.
>>538640281
>>538642835I bounced between reaper, architect, witch, and hunter
>>538642864What i did was hug either the left or right wall. Those dart mobs are a lot less dangerous if you are above them and they usually try to come from under you if you're hugging a wall. Its easy to then just jump and pogo them for free hits.
Wait the mist area dissapeared?
>>538642835I've finally unlocked shaman and it's pretty amazing. Shame you get it when you're like ~90% done with the game.
>>538640846>had almost no platformingwhite palace was mandatory for the good endings and it was more difficult than cogwork core, mount fey, and sands of karak combined
>>538643243yes its an illusion created by the phantom with the exhaust organ and not a real area
>>538643013Unless you are speaking about the 150+ recycled trash mobs as bosses (those are garbage), that's just not true. All remembrance bosses are unique and fun. Malenia was a clear exception at release but now with all the tech that have been found against her she is also fun.Meawnhile in Silksong, a lot of bosses are just gigantic flying dude with flying adds. They all fight the same way, and they are all miserable due to this stupid input reading AI. I want more bosses like Judge and Phantom.
>>538643361too bad it was pretty fun
I'm 40 hours in and just reached the Grand Gate. Am I bad? How long is this game jesus christ
>>538642864get wreath of purity from putrified ducts to be able to take at least some time in the maggot waterbounce on him after he pops out of the waterdeflect the exploding projectiles he spits outpatience is key in the gauntlet, try to farm silk and not get hit or fall in the water. hit the bushmen when they pop out the water
>>538643535in 20 hours in and have reached last judge and just got through mists in the other end of the map. spent a lot of time just revisiting old areas multiple times and i'm pretty sure that i have reached every place i can with current movement upgrades and pogoing and probably found most of the hidden walls. bought everything unique from stores i found. probably a bunch of things i missed though
>>538643358>almost noREADING COMPREHENSION
people struggling with moorwing and mount faye tells me all I need to know about people who think this game is too difficult
>>538643535It's average, or just below.Unless you are a seasoned metroidvania player with high execution, in that case yeah that's really slow.
Download link? I'm not really in position to buy it now
Mount fay was so fun bros
>>538643535congrats. you have done act 1 out of 3probably a bit slower than i'd think most players take but it depends on how much they re-explore stuff and how good they are at platforming and bosses
>>538644312It's because they have yet to get to the real shit that is bilewater.Only 33% of steam players beat last judge. I expect the playerbase will explode once they reach bilewater arena.
What happens if you never free the snitch bitch, or save him from one of the knights in the capital anyway? Do they just die like Zote?
>>538643535I'm very slow and I beat Judge ~20 hours in after doing almost everything in Act1 except Sinner's Road and everything following it.
Can anyone help me?I have no clue how to reach that flea or open the door
>>538645007already beat bilewater, only took a few tries didn't even find out about the secret bench till after, I think people just aren't taking advantage of how busted tools are and air healing
>>538645309Any tools with the poisonous upgrade is such a massive damage bonus that it almost feels like cheating sometimes.
>>538645248Go right after the station, hidden passage on bottom right. If I remember correctly.
>>538644312I struggled with Fey until I figured out how the hook's mechanics worked. I got it first try after that.As for Moorwing, I never actually attempted him because I skipped him and I was bored I figured out >>538604693 and truly skipped him entirely.
>>538644312two masks of damage is bullshit>inb4 just spam tools brostill doesn't change the fact that two mask damage is bullshitjust have only the final boss and a rare few enemies do it and the game would be perfect
Is it possible to beat the plasmium boss without some sort of gimmick? Or do they just have a fuckton of health.
>32 hours>look at interactive map>see at least 3 areas I haven't discovered yet>at least 15 bosses I haven't foughtThis game is massive, what the hell.
>>538645952you need the phial again from the plasmium guy
>>5386459947 years in the making
>>538645309...there is a secret bench?
>>538645612thanks a lot
>>538646104Yes.But don't expect it's a free runback to the arena. It cut outs the first half. It's still huge.
>>538606620It turns on the lights for the simon says bell game below it.
>>538645921the two masks are more fair purely because you can heal for 3 masks, and very easily as well even most bosses can't punish you when you heal if you time it after an attack. pair that with the quick heal and you can regain health very quickly. I'll admit having so much double mask damage in the early game is a bit much though.
>>538608082>>538587592
There should be a way to upgrade the magnet talisman so that it works with shards too, like how you can upgrade the boomerang and the on hit silk charm.
really wish coral towers were a full area and not just a gauntlet, best looking area by far
>>538646052I already finished his quest and now he's [Spoiler]dead[/Spoiler].
>>538615230Pale Lake, to the right of the ducts, you go here during Shakra's questline to find her master.
>>538646861not sure if you can kill the guy then, he regens health quickly
The platforming in both games is laughably easy, could have gone a little harder on that front instead of bullshit bosses.
>>538619221You could break it normally with no drill.
where the fuck are the craftmetals in act 2.
The attention to detail, all the little secrets, questlines, etc. This game is fucking GOTD.
>>53864599470 hours in (though i'm a bit slow) and still only 90% completion with 3 charms and 14 achievements missingPotentially more stuff that just hasn't been discovered that I've missed
babu
>>538619221You can break the ground walls normally but I appreciate you highlighting the delver drill its one of my favorite tools Absolutely melts one of the act 3 main quest bosses if you know what you're doing
>>538623069You didn't beat the game.
>>538619221if you're talking about the leftmost hatch, you don't need the drillyou don't need to even downslash as I found out about it by just slashing while walking
>>538633824>Wait, there is something out there?charge attack ability
>excited to finally meet the dashmaster>it's some guy called sprint master insteadI feel robbed
>>538623069reach the citadel then come back to greymoor's bellstation, he'll be there
>>538639441They suck at video games
>>538602506I don't think you can
>OH NO NO NO AAAAHHHHHHHH FUCK FUCK FUCK PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE-meI knew that if I got hit by this garbage I would have to redo everythingfuck bilewater I hope I have done everything in this area so I will never come back ever againand what does the soul thing you get even do?
>>538648731Dash master has been dead for a while
>>538649179Its for true ending
>trobbio goes through a dark tormented artist phase because its the end of the worldkino
>>538649404Love that ham so much
>>538649287ok so I actually get something useful for all my suffering cool
>finished the game without double jump rather odd that they added such power to a skippable areaa bit disappointed with that fact, I was looking forward to getting it, so seeing the credits threw me off
>>538649587i'm assuming you got the bad ending by beating grand mother silk, real ending requires you to do more
>>538649587You did not beat the game.You got the bad ending in classic castlevania SOTN style.I did it too without double jump.
>found the ruined tool>read the description and instantly think of forge daughter>oh cool it's a gun>20 hours later learn that I could've made a laser instead if I just held onto the item for no reason until the very end of the game>you can only get one type of silkshotwhy
>>538649791>>538649881obviously such endings are always the first and simplest to do my mindset was >fuck blight town I'll just wait for double jump and deal with it afterwards pffftI'll start other stuff tomorrow or so
my only REAL complaint about the game is that I wish you could swap between crests outside of benches
>>538633602Bilewater is kino
>>538650048wait, how do you get the laser I got the gun by bringing it to the architect
>>538650189They could add a loadout swap with 2 crest that you switch with a single button press like in DS era castlevania.
>see a bunch of cool weapons>find the architect>bunch of new weapons>find a random item>new weapon>all require a craftmetal>last craftmetal found: near the cauldronwhere the fuck are people getting 5 more craftmetals?
>>538643358it actually wasnt only path of pain was comparable.
why THE FUCK is Silk power and Tool button THE SAME a lot of enemies require you to aim upwards, so instead of using SILK POWER, the fucking tool gets used absolute garbage 2005 console design
>>538640725back in the old days when games were localized to english they'd be made harder because japs are so soft.
Can I get the 4th nail upgrade before fighting the major bosses in Act 3?
>>538650323they're hidden all over, I think one or two of them is tied to late game but it's mostly about finding them
>>538650228by process of eliminationit's obtained by crafting it in hornets bell house in bellhart
>>538650602yes, coward
>>538650737they have way too much health bro.
>>538650813they don't though, even the tankiest one can be done cleanly with just 2 needle upgrades and the plant can be beaten almost entirely with tools
>>538651000>using toolsYDBTG
>>538650813the ugly rayman plant hurts my hand so i'm sympathetic, but you should appreciate every second you get with antwife.
>>538650228You take it to an area below the top of the mountain and you can craft it there.
>>538651407That ant can suck my dick, I obliterated her with tools.
>>538650660how the hell does Hornet craft it herself?Her princess powers let her be a forge master without even trying?
>>538652098no idea, but apparently you can craft some items by yourself
>shard bundle has a max limitPain. _____ :^) __________
How did Hornet go from early knight victim to taking down a higher being on her own
>>538647247>>538648315>>538648698I've got bamboozled. Looks like it's a purely offensive tool then. Which is fine, it's pretty nice.
>>538652420The burden of the architect
>one of the achievements is beating Steel Soul mode at 100% game completionGood fucking GOD
>>538652569Via protagonist powers
why is hornet red in silksong but purple in hollow knight?
>>538652689don't forget the 30 HOUR ""speedrun"" 100% achievement
>>538639441Japs can't handle hard games, they'd rather play Mario
they're taking my fucking tacks!
>>538641913Phantom's description in the journal says something about expelling pollution.
Can I get a hint how to get the fleasL**[Spoiler]Under the Underworks[/Spoiler]****[Spoiler]Behind the door in far fields village[/Spoiler]**
>>538653675how hard is it to do ctrl+s?
>>538653571is everyone using the flying scarabs+poison combo?
I'm so used to diagonal pogo that down pogo feels wrong now...
>>538653921no, I'm use the triple shot, to get some vertical damage, and because I haven't found the scarabs yet
>>538653921I used the chakras + cone drill
>>538653929Hunter Crest GODS
how do you do, fellow witches?
>>538653921it's good for enemies that love to fly out of range, there's not a lot of build variety too, there's 4 or 5 good non-situational blue charms at most so most people will just run a silk/healing one and that because you're going to equip tools anyway
>>538653929BASED BASED BASED CANON ENJOYER
is bellhart > halfway home > sinners road > exhaust organ > grand bellway the best route for couriers rasher?
>>538654739no lol, it's the other side - Shellwood > Steps > Choral Chambers.
>>538654364scorn was ass
>>538654739If you have double jump, the steps route is insanely safe and contains no respawning enemies. You can use double jump to skip 100% of the sand carver platforms and after that your only dangerous obstacles are two fans.
Is the platforming that leads you to the surface the hardest in the game? Grinding health by hitting the respawning bugs there was helpful but it still took forever Fun though
>>538655580unless theres a secret path of pain type place no one has found yet, then yes
>>538655580The mask piece puzzle near the lady who makes you parachute cloak was harder for me. It's much shorter though.
Can you get locked out of any wishes? I think I'm about to beat Act 1, but I still have a few wishes I wanna put off for now.
>>538655992If i had the common sense to just equip the thing that lets you stick still on walls it probably would've been easier
favorite OST in the game?
>>538656507Choral Chambers
unique taunt when using the rings
>>538656507New Hornet's theme — Red Maiden.
>>538656507https://youtu.be/Dq8wGcWeXwg?list=PLbNT78Q7M14x4ysLOAkock4ESwW-RNOcAI just love this area in general reallyI fucking love gears and cogsDancers was amazing too
>>538656507choral chambers and bilewater
>>538653921Non-faggots don't use tools, no.
>>538652569she was throwing. she wanted the knight to do the ugly stuff.
>>538656507widow's theme, lace's theme, skarrsinger's theme
>>5386525691 didn't have all the shit she got in this game 2not the main character
>>538656776also when using reaper crest
the heart you can get for your house is actually kind of obnoxious, the constant beating ruins the ambience
Coral tower in act 3 is so fucking cancerous
If you killed this guy you're a villain btwThis is an elected official that is just doing his duty of judging a criminal that brought ruin to the land
>Flying enemies can read your inputs and reorient themselves so your attacks - which otherwise would have hit any other enemy - completely misses them every timeYeah, this game's a fucking mess. They didn't playtest shit.
Can someone help me reach this flea?
There's no point where this game becomes fun, is there?
>>538658578they weirdly don't read inputs, they just backstep as you get close enough, you can test it by jumping without attacking, they'll still backstep the microsecond you get close
>>538658578flying enemies are a meme, toss a knife at them or grapple to them, or even just wait a second
>>538658872Blegh. Still poorly designed.
>>538658360It's crustaceous!But honestly the shortcut after the third battle room makes it manageable. Without it the whole thing would've been too arduous.
>>538658771What movement abilities have you got rn
>>538658771use the grapple left to the needle master to access a new area
>>538655580>>538655706You can get a Hiveblood health equivalent from the Plasnium guy
>>538658991>>538658991everything>>538659039Thanks
>>538656507Area theme: Clockwork Core, Choral Chambers or BilewaterBoss theme: Widow or Lost Lace
>>538659112really?
how do i open all those cell doors in that room above the chef in the citadel?
>>538654084You are me
>>538658523I like that Hornet's journal entry was like "he's not wrong"
>>538658872I hate how "evasive" the enemies are. Especially the flying ones.Plus hp pools are large and you can't really stagger enemies out of their moves. So in the result to kill some basic bat you have to jump around it like a crackhead for a whole minute or so.
>>538658523yeah but beating him says it exonerates me of all crimes past and future so its cool
>>538658360Just save your tools for round 3, I thought it was too much at first but its honestly not that bade. Strangely Khan was the easiest part of the whole thing.
I dropped hollow knight pretty early on a couple years agoDo you think I'll find it too easy now I finished silksong?
So if Last Judge corners you, and he does his spinning move, is that just a guaranteed hit?
>>538660721Don't get cornered?
>>538660628hollow knight is harder if you try to do all the post game/late game stuff
>>538660628Nope. It's essentially just a worse Hollow Knight.>>538660790So yes. Great.
I need one of these assholes to finish up the log but I can't find any. Someone out there with a better memory?
>>538661004the big ones? they're out at the bridge where you first find them, to the right of the citadell's city
>>538661004bridge between memorium and putrid ducts?
>>538659352Yeah its his second quest
>>538660721She doesnt do her spinning move in the corner
>>538661148>>538661186Bingo, cheers.
ENOUGH WITH THESE FUCKING FLYING BOSSES WITH FLYINGS ADDS ALREADYFUCK OFF
>>538661452Yes she does. I got hit twice in a row in a corner. It was an unavoidable death.
>>538661737hmm, nyo>have to fight broodmother with a billion hp constantly spawning bombflies and stunlock slime, zigzagging like gruzmother, in a room so small you can't even jump your max height
>>538662061Never had a problem with her. The silk skills insta-kill the spawns, and you’ve got tools too. That boss was overrated as fuck, I was expecting another phase after I beat it since I’d heard so many rumors about it
apparently i missed an npc called kratt in act 1 and 2. is he important?
>>538662497hes part of the flea troupe
I'd like to do steel soul mode, y'know have a harder time with even more punishing fights, but I'm bad and I hate permadeath.Does save&quit mid fight work to avoid getting deleted?
>>538662576yes
first sinner reveal, boss fight, and lore drop after
>>538662471My biggest problem was really her healthpool, she tanked 6 poison tack stacks + ~15 triple darts and I still had to fight her for a full minute after that to kill her
>>538662576If you dont do steel soul mode you actually didn't beat the game, but real There's a unique boss for that mode
>>538662683First Sinner and the Silk Mother from Act 2 are really fun boss fights to memorize imo. I had to beat First Sinner twice because I messed up the Ruined Tool and had to reload my save.
Excellent area. Getting sick of these fatass bug bosses that are harder than any of the 'real' ones, though. Am I done here? Got the flea in the lower long room on the right, got the crustnut, got the probably-shit tool at the end. It felt like there might be a way to jump across the whole last room from the left wall for a secret, but it wasn't happening.
>>538662563wait what? but i already got them to move to their final place near the lake. how is that possible? what happened to him now?
>>538663112Done for now depending on what movement options you've gotThere's a surprising amount of stuff there for the size of the place
>>538663158I don't know, I've never heard anyone missed him, he might still be in his original hiding spot
>>538663112secret area here with another area
>if you go through Act 1 without a map quill you can take Trobbio's from the room above the stage and its a different colorWhat the fuck. This game has so many little secrets.
>>5386634177 years in the making
where's gilly after I find her by the ant queen statue?
How do I save Pilby? I know there's a way to make them move to Pilgrim's rest, I just don't know how.
>>538658081*beast
Alright final fleaAnyone have a clue how ot reach it?
>>538665309You gotta go through the top left of fucking greymoor (wisp thicket)
are the deliveries other than Rasher required for anything or are they just for rosary rewards? do i unlock more later after the initial four?
>>538665539Never would've guessedThanks
>>538664725it seems you just need to keep talking to him, just delay the kill quest for as long as possible
>>538662683First boss I thought was easier without tools for some reason
wisp thicket feels weirdly underbaked compared to all the other areas of the game
Anyone else feels like the early game is pretty weak?it peaks up once you reached greymoor but the early areas are kinda mid
>>538666002Thats probably why its just a secret optional zone. Frankly if it went on for too long I think I would hate it, the fire shit is annoying.
>>538666108I think early game Silksong is more fun than early game HK. Everything before Mantis Claws is dull as fuck, meanwhile Hornet gets the dash in 15 minutes which makes the levels more interesting to navigate.
>>538666128yeah, but even the enemies are sparse and permanently leave when you kill the boss
First sinner fight is so good I don't want to win it... So satisfying
So what ended up being a bigger disappointment? Elden Ring or Silksong.
>>538664725I saw Pilby go all the way to the first shrine in Songclave. He even changed clothes to white. but he moved on and I don't know where he is now, so I can't take a screenshot
>>538666496are you high?
>>538666496are you lost? the ragebait zoomer board is /v/wrong tab
>>538666671he is trying to stir shit
>>538666108I thought the atmosphere was a lot weaker in the earlier areas, but it picked up later on
>>538666671>>538666753>>538666791Why aren't we allowed to criticize anything? They're both pretty equal in terms of their cultural impact. They both were announced at the same time too.
>>538666108The issue with the early game is being able to deal good damage being locked behind almost getting into act 2 already, makes all those areas you find very slow, having to hit an ant that respawns with screen transitions 8 times to kill itIt's good once it gets going but it's less replayable than HK in my eyes
>>538666496Contrarianism isnt a substitute for a personality, despite what /v/ believes.
>>538666918This isn’t a general about Elden Ring, also "cultural impact" and "muh popularity" are just normalfag mentality.Go back.
Is the whisp thicket a reference to the grimm troupe?
>>538666968I think something to help replayablity would be a mode that lets you pick your starting crest once you unlock them all in a file. It sucks so bad that Shaman is locked to act 3. And it would just open up a lot of variety in how you can load yourself out in Act 1. But otherwise I'm excited to replay the game and I think doing an alternate route into the citadel makes for an interesting challenge.
>>538667059Why niggers keep drawing Hornet so thick?
>>538667367why do low test faggots hate it so much?
>>538667367no one gives a fuck about canon proportions
>>538666918What you're doing is not criticizing. Its stating something that is collectively subjective as a fact (that both games were big disappointments). If you stopped spending so much time on /v/ you'd probably understand why thats such a retarded post.
>>538667472I mean...they are both factually bad games. That's not really up for debate.
>>538667367Thats the internet in general dude, thats how every female character is drawn
yo why these games run like hot garbage on linux?
>>538667695it's running fine, except the travel cutscenemaybe because you're using nvidia in linux (I am)
>>538668091nope im using AMD
is hornet the best female protagonist of all time?it's the first time I see a female character being liked for something other than sex appeal>inb4 >implyingyes I said what I said all the people lusting after her are just memeing
>>538667695Because Linux is garbage for people who don’t identify with their birth gender
>>538666325just beat her, I really want to find her again with a different crest, it's so fun
>>538668535shes a well spoken, well mannered near ancient warrior demi-god. its a good fit for a world like hollow knight's
I cant do the jump..I cant *sniff* i cant..
>>538668535>it's the first time I see a female character being liked for something other than sex appealYou sound underage
Shell shard is possibly the most retarded design decision they did in a game already full of retarded design decisions. It adds absolutely nothing to the game. It's everything people disliked about bloodborne and sekiro's resource systems amplified tenfold.
>>538668535she's done the whole thing once before. makes sense that she's very familiar with the process. for everyone else in pharloom they are experiencing the wrath of a mad god for the first time, but for hornet its like "aw shit, here we go again"
>>538669130yeah let's make tools completely free they're not broken at all
>>538669336Tools are already limited by the vancian system they have in place. Having them cost crafting resource on top is RETARDED.
>>538668535hornet is a silly little bugculture war shit doesn't apply here
>>538669452Oh, so you just want to spam all your tools on the boss without a care in the world and no repercussions, making Architect even more brain-dead. Got it.
Man, Grindle sells such GOOD stuff in Blasted Steps. I want it, I want it all, I need so much money. Where's the best grinding spot? >>538669130I don't think they're necessary, but I've never ran out or had to grind them either, so it's not a big deal.
Why does the not-dream nail cost bar to use, beat the whole game and there never seemed a reason to have it constantly drain your meter just to listen to some bonus NPC dialogue
>>538666108i like hunters march. I think mossmother and fourth chorus are gay baby bosses for retards and I was regretting getting excited about the game while fighting them. then savage beastfly raped sense into me.
>>538669856For the most part tools are not as OP as you make it sound. As for the actual OP tools (like cogflies) — I'll gladly take a nerf in the exchange for the ability to never grind the shards.
>beat Silksong>Charlie Kirk shot deadWhat a great day
And I used to think Pantheon of hallownest Uumu was bullshitLol, how little I knew
>>538669856>Oh, so you just want to spam all your tools on the boss without a careI already do. The system is fundamentally fucked, they just added an extra step of tedium to farm this shit if you get low.If only there was a far more elegant spell + healing system in the previous game. Oh wait, that's exactly how it was.
>>538670368Cringe
>>538670165Probably because there is actually a combat "use" as it can stun the enemies. It's not really useful though.
>>538670468Yeah, getting shot is cringe, he should have debated the bullet.
>>538670165It doubles as a REALLY shitty interrupt in combat for some enemy types, but basically useless. Complete mechanical downgrade to dream nail which actually had a very defined use in combat.
>>538670327>For the most part tools are not as OP as you make it sound.lolhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E7AmT_p8Pcc
>>538670808Tools are this game's version of mimic tear.
>>538670119act 2? the big knights left of the first shrine. theres 5 in a row if you do the entire stretch and a bench close to each end. by the thief mark first from grindle, its a 60% increase to rosaries drop if you dont get hit. with the thief mark, its like 250 rosaries for the full run. the other trinket where you get rosaries from harpooning enmies doesnt seem to work for me so i think its just bugged. maybe they fixed it by now but iunno.
>>538670119Those big fuckers in the two hallways outside the Cogwork Dancers, you can just keep savequiting to the first shrine bench and run through, its like 250 a pop with the rosary increase tool.
>>538670624actually, anime is the superior form of entertainment, nothing beats that well animated hand-drawn style, and this is definitely the place to talk about it
>>538670808>cogflies>pinsYeah, right. Now do that with longpin and delver drill.
>>538670808this was me
>>538670554>Probably because there is actually a combat "use"Just like the dream nail.
>>538670327tools are super broken, never even used the cogflies but the aerial spike traps, sawblades, and conch drill projectile all tear through enemies. and things like tacks, boomerang, chakras, and triple knifes are just good projectiles or traps. thats not counting the powerful steroids like attack speed increase or heat blade damage buffs. even the hard to hit projectile like the volt bolas do a ton of damage.
>>538670368who is charlie kirk?
I feel like I've missed so much shit in act 1 because I did things in the "wrong" order
>>538671048>>538671101I knew those guys would be good for something. Thanks, anons.
>>538671320its one of the few things that trinkets can actually improve your max potential dps on, if not the only thing. just tagging something with a poison dagger every 3-4 seconds in a fight is massive.
>>538671354Some dead guy
BEST ROSARY FARM IN ACT 3????
>>538671590Top left of choral chambers under the high halls entrance. Sit on bench, run right, blast the 3 mobs with some tool to kill them fast, run back, repeat. Equip fast sprint and the extra rosary charms.
Missed the Shakra boss fight it seems.Where was it?
>>538671753after her quest It's a duel in Greymoor where the fleas wereno rewards though
>>538659112can architect refill it via skill or the alchemist has the be visited when the injector is empty? has has multiple quests???
>>538672045>greymoorEpic, got fucked because of bad translation.In french, it said it was in songclave.
is beast crest the worst crest? the lifesteal mode feels so short especially for how important it is. not to mention the pogo...
>>538672229I think it gives a damage steroid too when you heal but evolved hunter also has an inherent damage buff for just attacking repeatedly
>>538672229The pogo bricks it, I have no idea what they were thinking. Like I legitimately hope it gets buffed, every other crest is good.
>>538672229Its very undertuned for sure.
>>538672229Savage beastfly gets one last laugh by rewarding you with this piece of shit.And then comes back laughing even harder in the refight.
>Karmelita boss fightHOLY FUCKING KINO
Is there a super secret boss in Act 3 outside of the critical path ones?
>>538673393Slave Knight GaelThe Homosexuals
I like that after 3 nail upgrades, you still do zero fucking damage on enemies on act3, even those from early game areas. Really makes you think what's the point.Same thing for masks. If everything does 2 damage, just fucking give us 4 masks of health and makes everything do 1 damage instead.
>>538673393green prince/lost verdania is kind of secret bur honestly easier to find than the ones marked on your map. the secretest boss is the crawfather.
>>538673393The one in verdania but its kind of a lame fight.
Is this it?Do I need to do everything critical before this?
>>538672229its "good" as the facetanking option but you get shit for blue talisman space and and terrible pogo move for anything that isnt a boss fight so its a rough investment.
>>538673694i beat the game with 2 upgrades, sounds like you're just a baby.
>>538673694If they're covered in void cum yeah but you literally one or two shot early enemies with the maxed nail. If you think its bad you have to imagine how awful it would be with zero upgrades.
>only 1 charge attack per crest>almost all of them are shit>they don't generate focusImagine taking a fantastic nail art system and just making it worse in every way
>>538674163Maybe you should get a job instead bro lmao
>>538674338charge attack saved me in coral. it one shots most of the enemies. even the fatties get one hit from death after a charged attack.
>>538674604And yet they are complete garbage compared to nail arts
What the fuck do I do with the seeker's soul?
>>538674983required to acess act 3 later
>>538673895You should beat the final boss while cursed from the witch before you complete this.
>>538674838its free is the benefit. really sucks that theres no silk gain from it, ill agree. consider it a tax for having a semi silk art move for free i suppose. helps that you can longclaw + Pinstress pin it, makes it very viable. hate that you cant shoot/tools while charging either. lemme megaman on this boss.
>>538675337>its free is the benefitThey are not "free", they cost charge time, exactly how in 1. They went ass backwards on one of the best mechanics from 1.
>>538675337>boss intros disable your held chargeAIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>538675475just gotta remember ABC, Always Be Charging. you did immediately swap Square and R1 right?
>sister>theirJesus wept.
honestly the charged attack is only useful if the mob will die from that one hit, otherwise, it’s not worth it and deals much less DPS compared to hitting normally.also no silk gain.
>>538675719>just gotta remember ABC, Always Be ChargingWhy would i? They are not giving me enough reason to. I need silk.
>>538675767the lack of silk gain is an absolute cockblock. the DPS is good against bosses when you can do only 1 hit ever so often, but even then it only hits horizontally (hunter).
>>538675824then dont, im not ur mom.
>>538675991Next time don't start a discussion if you have nothing to say
>>538676074why are you crying to me? im not ur mom
The last 5 minibosses i fought all had adds. Surely the dev is not THIS creatively bankrupt?
Where to find the rhinogrud/ giant rhino beetle? I killed the one in the memorium and I let the other one through the far fields gate to see what would happen, but I cannot find it anymore
Team Cherry are dead to me
Was this arena room doable during act2?I'm in act3 and this room is pure cancer.
>>538675747Singular they has been a thing for longer than America has existed bro. You should not have slept through English class.
Gave up on moss mother 2, I only play fps games, this shits a fucking bullet hell with floor is lava
>>538676576Go back to the paid bench above later, and he will invade there. Letting him escape is part of an event.
I've reach Last Judge. I know I likely wont be able to beat him on the first go, so I quit back to bench so my coco doesn't get stuck a mile away. Is there a closer bench point near him or something? I die a lot and I don't think I can make that dangerous trek back each time for this.Also, is there something at blue circle? I was hitting around in that spot, but nothing happened, but the map makes it seem like there's something there.
>>538677263you will acess there later with more upgrades, also the path is easy, just avoid the mobs
This room is not possible what the fuck.All enemies are enhanced and it takes 3 cogwork wheel to kill a single one. 3. THREE. And you don't see a fucking thing since everything is black, including those stupid projectiles.WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS SHIT.
>>538677263The game just has retarded long runbacks and there are worse to come
>>538677083simply focus on dodging instead of facetanking stuff. when do you get to hit? welp, when there's an opening.
I think a pattern I see that makes people die a lot is trying to rush the boss while taking hits, or getting desperate and spamming dash and jump instead of trying to recognize the attack pattern.
It's funny that HK1 feels like a sequel to Silksong mechanically. Seriously, every single mechanic was more polished, eclectic and minimalistic.
>>538677804I disagree, Silksong feels more fun to play
>>538677804Nah
>>538677780A lot of people are behaving like the bosses dont give clear openings, its just facetank nonsense. If you back off and pay attention to tells you can see what openings are consistently safe and how long you have between boss attacks.
>hornet in hk>"I'd feel no sadness in a weakling's demise">hornet in silksong>"Let me help you uwu"WHAT HAPPENED
>>538678369I skipped most of the dialogue
Is anything good behind these courier quests? Holy fucking cancer.
>>538678369She had character development, this is made abundantly clear in the Lace 2 fight.
>>538678482pale oil
How do I open the door in here? Assumed I had to go through the big cog wheel, but it just takes me to a completely different area.
>>538677539My tolerance is really bad for long run backs. I couldn't beat HK1, possibly because of this (or maybe a boss was too hard for me). If there's really worse runbacks to come I might have to call it here.The game was really fun though and I liked the boss fights. Lace and Moorwing were my favorite and pretty fun for me. I'd actually fight Lace more times just for fun and to hang out with her more. SplintSis was one of the harder ones for me, but it was still fun. Wasn't a fan of the diagonal downward dash, but you get used to it.Big thanks to you Anons for helping me out as well. Happy to see everyone enjoy Silksong after such a long wait.
>>538678716A little hint.>>538678482One is required for a nail upgrade. It's not that bad honestly. Did it first try after clearing the enemies on the left path (you will know when you will get there) despite being hit 2 times.
>>538678716from the other side in the vaults
>>538646409I got that first try in the dark, oh well.
Any tips for positioning on the Last Judge, I can do the runback flawless enough times, but I can't seem to read the wind-ups on Judge
HOW DOES A METROID CLONE HAVE 460K ALL TIME PEAK? EXPLAIN THIS TO ME RIGHT NOW
>>538679078Hit and run tactic. Don't be greedy, take your time, you can avoid all her attacks by dashing on the opposite direction. Equip the fire bell charm to reduce fire and explosive damage, it helps.
>>538676412They gave you mobility and then realized they gave you too much mobility, so they make the areas "smaller" by spawning adds to cripple your mobility
Where the fuck do I find the pickled muckmaggot?I went through shellwoord and moss groto to no avail
>>538679090Its a good game with a lot of hype
>>538679078if it's outside the screen it's going to throw the lantern 100% of the time, you can use that moment to heal after you dodge the throw since it needs to pull it back stilleverything else can be dodged by simply jumping and glidingif you want to be extra safe only hit when it does the whole floor attack so it doesn't spin the lantern close to you
>>538679235>>538679401Thank you
>>538679395It has a lot of hype. I don't think it's good and I got all the endings. It tries too hard to be more difficult than Hallow Knight which just makes it frustrating. >>538679391It's in Sinner's path.
>>538679391double jump and sinner's road
>>538679721>I dont think its goodYou are mentally ill
>>538680040So was team cherry for giving lost lace double damage on collusion. They can choke on a truck of dicks for that.
>>538679721>>538679737>>538679737thanks
Why do you guys say that Savage Beastfly was hard? I was getting raped by Sister Splinter and Last Judge, but Beastfly took probably about a dozen attempts. All you have to do is get under him and you can oneshot most of the minions with Silkspear.
>>538680195pretty fucked since some of her sword attacks only deal 1 damage. i guess she is just really stinky or something
>>538678716 (Me)Nevermind, just found it.
>>538680040No, he is absolutely right. Purely from a game design perspective the game feels significantly worse than the original HK. All the changes to gameplay formula didn't actually improve it. The good bits are the same, the bad bits are amplified tenfold. Healing system changes in particular have completely raped the fantastic focus system fron 1.
>>538680201Savage beastfly was not hard.Savage beastfly 2 however...Nah both were okay, they pale in comparison to other shit like bilewater
>suffer through the obnoxious AOE fest in the miner kill room>the reward is a fucking fly
>>538680753At least it wasn't nothing. Most bosses give you nothing. The flea's lead much better rewards.
>>538680753what room? Are you talking about cogfly or a flea?
>>538680593SS mogs HK so hard though. Environments / Art, combat, platforming, secrets, enemy / boss design, everything is a huge step up.
>>538677183thanks
>>538680195>>538680593I am glad you guys are mad. I am glad shitposters and people with no taste are seething at Silksong's success.
Anyone got the map with the shardillards? need just 1 more for the journal page
>>538681154No it fucking doesn't. Environments and art are the same, but the world doesn't feel coherently designed like the kingdom from 1. It's a bunch of disconnected zones.ALL the combat mechanics got worse. Healing got worse and dragged focus alongside it. The best moveset is literally Knight's moveset from 1 and it was nerfed in terms of range. Charm system is worse, charms themselves are more boring and less impactful.Platforming is ass until you fix the shit diagonal pogo. Secrets are among the least rewarding i've seen in the entire genre. For every good boss in Silksong there are 3 minibosses who use the same "spam adds" tactics. It wasn't a problem in 1.
>>538681438Silksong owes its success to HK. We'll see how the third game fares after this cluster fuck.
how does snitch pick work exactly
>>538587175You can play the needliolin to summon the Bell Beast, rather than yelling HEERRAA.Idk who needs this info, but one moss berry is located in the hidden area to the left of the bench at Eva's place
>>538681512>Secrets are among the least rewarding i've seen in the entire genre.I see someone has forgotten about how 90% of the secrets in HK, even ones pretty hard to get to, were just wanderer's journals or similar
>>538681656i dont think it does. i imagine it's supposed to make your harpoon be able to make rosaries drop out of the enemy but when i tested days ago, it doesnt steal anything AND actually reduces the amount of rosaries the enemy drops when you kill it.
How does warding bell work with witch's heal?
>>538681656the grapple hook does more damage and it seems like enemies drop more stuff on death the more you grapple them, at least thats what it seemed like to me
>>538681870Secrets weren't the best in HK too, true, but here none of the shit you do on locations doesn't feel rewarding even in terms of currency.
>>538681857if you give her every mossberry in the game, she upgrades her trinket. i never used it so i dont really know how much better it is.
>>538682069Okay. I'm enjoying the game, not sure what to tell you.
>>538682069Skill issue frankly, theres cool shit in every zone.
finally done with this game
>>538682242Finding a small rosary bead at the end of a cracked wall is not a "skill issue", faggot.
fuck do you mean TO BE CONTINUED
>>538682331>NOOOOOOOO ITS A BAD GAME!Its a critical and financial success, die mad about it lmao
>>538682354part 3 in another 8 years ft zote
>>538682354Hollow Knight: Lacelight
>>538682414>can't refute anything>starts sperging out about success that was built by original HKYou lost
Who is the Zote of Silksong?
>>538682554Hollow Knight: Soulace
>>538682609We're on page 10 and you arent interesting enough for a debate dawg
>>538682623There's no one as funny.
>>538682623lace lmao
>>538682623the fat fly who stole Hornet's dress.
Ok, the ascension to escape the abyss was actually peak plateform. Gave me flashback from the first Ori.
>>538683314>the first trailer's music building the whole timeIts KINO
>>538682623Pilby
Hornet is cool and all but I miss the knight
Wait, if I destroy those void cocoon, enemies go back to normal?
>>538682354You play as the Pale King beingreborn in a distant land
>>538681512>Environments / World badToo many of HKs envs were bland and brown. Each env has a unique set of challenges and themes that make it unique. There are way more secrets and the rewards are more varied, plus there's a lot more character interactions and quests that flesh out the world and its characters. I won't defend the shitty mmo-tier quests, but most of them are decent enough for getting you back out and exploring. I think enough zones connect in multiple ways that it's fine, it doesn't need to be all over the place.>Combat / Healing / Charms / Crests badHealing is too expensive, but I think it's fine otherwise. Wanderer is fucking shit, reaper or architect mog. I don't think the tool system is any worse than HKs. The stuff you get is more varied and most people just use the exact same charms in HK (range, speed, dmg, etc.) because 90% of them are useless trash. >Platforming badWhich you get pretty early. And I love all the filtering the pogo is doing, literal skill issue. It's fucking easy after like 2 encounters and the platforming early is easy. >Secrets badI don't have much frame of reference, but it's leaps and bounds over Castlevania and Metroid, maybe not as good as Animal well.>Bosses bad cuz addsI agree it's kinda annoying, but I think having waves of adds is a good way of challenging the player like the coliseum, their ability to manage multiple enemies, especially with Hornet's increase maneuverability. Most of the bosses have very simple movesets consisting of like 3 moves, which is why they use adds to add extra challenge.
>>538683549Temporarily they respawn after a while.
>>538680625if you try to fight savage beastfly as the devs intended, perhaps it is harder. however, you can just cheese it, so ultimately the fight is easier since the option is on the table
>>538682331most of the secrets are finding another zone / npc / boss. I'd say less than 20% are shit like rosary's / shards.
>>538683715Even then, I wish I knew about this before doing the godawful arena room for the flea in deep docks one hour ago. Shit was mental.
Is there a way to refight bosses at some point?
I wish healing would either give you partial masks back if you got interrupted or didn't waste your silkThe shield healing bell stopped an attack, but also stopped my healing and I realized it was useless after that
>>538683696>Too many of HKs envs were bland and brownThis is true for this game as well, except there's no coherency with world design on top and the location design is completely featureless.>Healing is too expensive, but I think it's fine otherwise. No, healing changes dragged the entire system down. On a fundamental level. Wanderer is superior to both, get good.Oh, and you only get 1 charge attack and it's ass compared to nail arts.>Which you get pretty earlySo your only cope against diagonal pogo shit is "b-but you can go back to how a superior game did it">but it's leaps and bounds over Castlevania and MetroidAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH>but I think having waves of adds is a good way of challenging the playerHow about designing bosses that are challenging on their own, the thing 1 had no issues with?
>>538652569It's funny because I'd argue early, mid, and endgame knight is stronger than Early, Mid, and Endgame Hornet.
>>538684016yeah, essentially a botched run if you get hit out of a heal. would unironically be better if it jsut outright killed you.
>>538684008Not yet but there will probably be a DLC for it like Godhome.
>>538684016I like how punishing it is. The game makes you work for your heals
>>538684167come on bro, outside of maybe the prime games, metroid exploration kinda sucks and it's always basic shit like missiles / energy tanks.
>>538684452AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHJesus fuck some of you people are actually mentally ill fanatics
>>538683850At least you didn't find out about the witch crest after act 2. You think that shit's bad try it when every enemy does double damage and you can't heal. Even silk wouldn't have been that bad because she was really easy for the most part.
>>538684532I accept your concession.
>>538684008They'll definitely add a Godhome equivalent but not yet.
>>538684452I don't have the witch crest...
>>538670678Unless it was used with dream wielder, dream nail's windup is so fucking slow that it's unusable in boss fights. Still usable in exploration and platforming as long as there's a semi-stationary enemy to farm.
>>538683696based Asuka poster also bake the next thread you fucking idiots it's page 10
>>538684795Dream wielder is a 1 slot pin and during boss fights you can easily get a hit in during stuns. Nothing can fix the needolin.
I wish beast had 1 blue slot
>>538684452Bloodstained's exploration was amazing.Tbh I don't see why people are complaining about it in silksong. Lack of boss rewards? Sure. 100% agree.But no reward from exploration? You get lots of super powerfull tools etc.
>>538684825>also bake the next thread you fucking idiots it's page 10nah 14 other threads ahead of this one. falloff is slow on this board, baking is best at ~4 threads to go.
>>538684532I'm not any of the anons you were talking to, and I don't really have an opinion on the actual content of your discussion, but I just want to let you know how strange and pathetic it looks to type out, in all caps, a long string of ahaha's. I thought you should be made aware, as it seems like you aren't currently aware. Keep up the good work.
>>538684194How's mid knight stronger than mid hornet
>>538685060The vast majority of rewards for silksong exploration are the spool pieces (fucking useless because of the way healing works together with clawline constantly draining silk) or fleas. Even something as basic as mask upgrades are extremely rare. And the vast majority of subweapons are ass compared to a few sufficiently early game OP options.
>>538685315Howling Wraiths.
>beast hornetthere's only one BEAST and it ain't a bug
>>538685315By the virtue of having magic and charge attacks that don't suck ass alongside the superior healing system
>>538685492he does study bugs so it tangentially related at least.
Anyone know how to make it there?
The parry skill is so useless compared to descending dark. It doesn't refund the silk if it doesn't block, lol.
>>538685643super jump from act 3
>>538684194in a pvp situation where both characters are controlled by hypothetical players of optimal skill, who comes out on top?
>>538685679I just gave up on magic entirely. It's ass.
>>538685832The one who swims in iframes and can constantly generate mana for screen wiping spells
>>538684795>>538684928Even just the Awoken Dream Nail without Dream Wielder was fast enough to hit some bosses during some openings or staggers, even the Hollow Knight. I never finished the Pantheons though so I don't know much about the true endgame.There's a charm for the Needolin that I think increases the stun duration and affects stronger enemies but I don't have that yet either.
>>538685832End game hornet doesn't stand a fucking chance. Since he gets all these spells at once. (Not included in image, I-Frames on dash)Hornet isn't nearly as powerful as the Ghost in both lore and gameplay. Comparing HK and Silk Song.Hornet's only chance is tool spamming and playing keep away to exhaust ghost of soul. Which is thematically fitting. But as soon as Hornet runs out of tools she's fucked.
>>538685832Hornet. Knight has no ranged attacks apart from Shade Soul so Hornet denies him Soul by using the floating spike trap to zone him away and pelt him with ranged tools.
>>538686151The issue with needolin is that the stun is greatly delayed even for the enemies it does affect. Garbage.
>>538686302Even with tools, her strongest tool produces flies for the Knight to refill his focus.
>>538626354Act 4 free dlc.
>>538686335The tools are not infinite, and Knight has an iframe dash to trigger any of her tools safely. Plus he has vastly superior nail arts.
>>538686639>and Knight has an iframe dash to trigger any of her tools safelyWith a delay before he can use it again.I think the Knight is significantly more powerful but Hornet would have a chance in a fight.
>>538685832I think we'll unironically find out some day consider the first hollowknight had pvp mods.
Hornet would slaughter the knightSHe defeated vastly more powerful opponents
>>538686335Grubberfly ElegyGrimmchildGlowing Womb
>>538687019does anything she beat even compare to radiance?
>>538687019The Knight beat two Gods, Pure Vessel who was near Godhood and most importantly: Zote
>Key to a secret boss room is in another hidden breakable wall/fake wallYou're supposed to find this by yourself? And why do some breakable walls look like regular walls or are obscured by a foreground object?They could put some of those hidden bosses in place all those gauntlets
>>538687019you do know silksong hornet says she's weaker than she was in hollow knight when she was humiliated by a mid-game knight right
>Need to climb mount fay like 4 times for 100%dogshit game.
>>538687158grandmother silk is also a higher being
>>538687353let's be real right now she's a complete fucking jobbergenuinely one of the easiest bosses in the entire game
>>538685643>>538685716you dont need the superpooper jump. you just need to stagger your double jump differently. i got here in act 2. I went >jump off the slightly higher ground in pic>into harpoon>into double jump>into harpoon you need every bit of vertical height to get the ledge. i have the sprint trinket but im not sure if its needed.
>>538687353imagine the knight vs grandma silkabyss shriek shaman stone already rapes the radiance and she's so so so much more annoying than silk is
>>538687327She says so at the start of the game before she gains many upgrades and surpasses the knight>he was humiliated by a mid-game knight rightShe literally saved his life lol
>>538686504Her strongest tool in pve would not necessarily be her strongest tool in pvp. I can imagine a lot of tools that would be completely hellish to deal with in a hypothetical pvp situation (tacks on every walkable surface anyone?). I imagine that the outcome largely depends on the starting conditions and the size of the room. If the Hornet player has a massive room to play keepaway in, there's a good chance that the Knight starts having trouble.
>>538687564because you totally couldn't c-dash out of there if TC allowed it rightshe can't handle 5 seconds of spicy radiance air shut the fuck up
>>538687516sorry, forgot pic. its a running jump off this ground btw.
>>538687019They were more powerful because hornet was weaker and had less effective options. Imagine if Hornet didn't get smacked for two masks every attack, had abyssal shriek, could cast silk abilities 3 times per spool, got silk from charge up attacks, had I frames on dash, and could equip some of the ridiculous charms that ghost could.>but there are parallel charms in silksongYou can't really equip them all at the same time like with hollow knight.If the knight followed Hornet to to Pharloom he'd be seen as a complete demon just fucking shit up to find Hornet.
>>538687023>Grubberfly ElegyRequires full HP. Once he gets hit it's joever.>GrimmchildSlow, but definitely works.>Glowing WombRequires soul, which the Knight wouldn't have much of if Hornet was zoning him properly.
I think Hornet and one of either hollowknight or little ghost should have a kid so we can see how strong someone with weaver pale wyrm pale root and void ancestry all mixed up is.
protip that made the fay parkour babby-tier, don't jump when harpooning enemies, hornet naturally jumps she she hits them and holding the jump button actually fucks with your height massively
>erm toolsthis
The gauntlet in act 2 is so obscene I might actually put the game down. I haven't seen something this hard in a game in a pretty long time.
>>538688078maybe you should explore around and do some side questing, then. there are multiple ways to make the fight easier
>>538688078high halls? You can buy all of shakira's maps and do the quest and she'll help you there, it's kinda there to force you to explore more before you come back
>>538687986I think Little Ghost should fuck Lace instead and see what kind of fucked up spawn comes from that.
>>538688057Damage also goes up when you pair it with Dashmaster.
>>538688057Damn, Hornet would be taking 2-3 masks of damage from this in Silksong
>>538688191That's still retarded, how could I possibly know that? I also don't even know what maps I'm missing.
>>538688237>ghost fucks lace>hk fucks Hornet >the two children produced fuck each other.Protagonist of hk 3 everyone.
That was awesome.
So, I guess since godhome ending is canon, what happened to the hollow knight
Hornet can solo silkKnight needs help from honrnet/hollow knight/ all of the void to stand a chance against radiance
>>538688545you realize that once he beat radiance he effectively absorbed her in him rightand as opposed to the actual hollow knight he actually TANKED that
>>538688513"Where's Hornet?""I miss my Dad""My arm hu- oh yeah""Why do I have to take care of this little firespitting moth""I hope the little Knight is okay""Can't sleep, Moth will eat me."
>>538688237>Void, Pale Wyrm, Silk, Pale Root, Whatever the fuck Granny put into Lace, King's brand, Void Given Focus, Whatever part of Radiance is still in Ghost.>Plus Training from Ghost and Lace, Soul shenanigans, and if you really want to get excessive, training from HornetWe're going full 180 from "Hollow Vessel" to>Slaps Lace's pregnant belly "This bad boy can fit so many godly lineages and forces of nature in it." >>538688513He's probably chilling, I don't think him and Hornet fought in the end.
>>538688634>you [HEADCANON]Done? Done!
We already have a child character ready to go off on his own adventure to find his troupe.Hollow Knight: Grimm Tales.
>>538688967you literally absorb her into the void tf you mean headcanon
>>538689128WHOA, FUCKING SPOILERS DUDE!!I'm fucking fighting Gruz Mother, and I kinda feel like the game's been ruined for me right now, thanks a lot, dude...
would the knight have been able to contain the radiance or was he impure like hollow knight?
I dont fucking get it, I just watched vinny vinesauce first try bird arena when i gave up on it, is that what its like when you've been playing sides rollers since you were 5 years old? its extremely difficult for me to hit anything above me or at an above angle
>>538689667>>538689667>>538689667
>>538689440It's pretty obviously implied that the "Hollow Knight" ending is a bad ending because Ghost was impure and is just repeating the cycle with taking HKs place.Personally I have a theory that it's only because Ghost was impure that he was able to give Void focus.Also finish Silksong.True endingEssentially flat out shows you that Ghost cared about Hornet.
>>538689440Maybe a little better than Hollow ever did, but just the part where the Knight has to explore and make decisions and think would automatically start impurifying him, so we'd just end up right back where HK started.I don't think it was ever possible to make a truly pure Vessel.
>>538689672its what happens when you're a 40 year old man that doesn't want to play a 50 hour game so they rush it like a maniac
>>538687019Silk was a total jobber who got beaten by snails.
The difficulty curve in this one is very satisfying. I feel like the game gets progressively easier as I get better.
>>538677263Takes literally 20 seconds to make the run from there
>>538662497He peaks on Hornet while she bathes.
