/aicg/ - A general dedicated to the discussion and development of AI chatbots#520 - animal girls eating delicious food edition▶https://rentry.org/aicg_vg_memo▶This general is for discussion of the interactive experiences you can build on top of AI chatbots.>NewsGemini 2.5 Flash Image https://developers.googleblog.com/en/introducing-gemini-2-5-flash-image/Deepseek V3.1 released https://x.com/deepseek_ai/status/1958417062008918312 Sonnet 3.5/3.6 to be retired in October https://docs.anthropic.com/en/docs/about-claude/model-deprecationsOpenAI releases GPT-5 models, all preceding models slated for deprecation https://openai.com/index/introducing-gpt-5additional info: https://aicg.neocities.org/info>FrontendsSillyTavern: https://docs.sillytavern.appRisuAI: https://risuai.netAgnai: https://agnai.chat | https://rentry.org/agnai_guides_>Botshttps://characterhub.org | https://chub.aihttps://realm.risuai.nethttps://char-archive.evulid.cchttps://partyintheanchorhold.neocities.orghttps://aicg.neocities.org/bots>Modelsjailbreaks: https://rentry.org/jb-listinggpt: https://platform.openai.com/playground | https://platform.openai.com/docsclaude: https://console.anthropic.com | https://docs.anthropic.com | https://rentry.org/how2claudegemini: https://gemini.google.com | https://ai.google.dev/docs | https://rentry.org/gemini-qrdeepseek: https://chat.deepseek.com | https://api-docs.deepseek.comlocal: >>>/g/lmg | https://aicg.neocities.org/local | https://openrouter.ai>Botmakinghttps://aicg.neocities.org/botmakinghttps://desune.moe/aicharedhttps://agnai.chat/editor>MetaOP templates: https://rentry.org/vgOP | https://rentry.org/aicgOPaicg botmaking events: https://aicg.neocities.org/eventslore: https://rentry.org/aicg_chroniclesrice: https://aicg.neocities.org/ricingservices assessment: https://rentry.org/aicg_metalogs: https://sprites.neocities.org/l/r | https://chatlogs.neocities.orgprev: >>538541947
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this theme but its a tiger milf and i'm the food
>>538596348focks
Now let's see fat animal girl bitches eating delicious food.
waiter! waiter!
>>538596348fuck bawtneegers
>>538596880More fat bitches?
>>5385963483 out of 3 gooners agree, this is one on fat bitch.>https://chub.ai/characters/gigamax/abby-669a4644bb1cThis goblin mode harpy sits around watching anime and playing video games all day. It's time she was corrected. Is your dick strong enough to fuck this dirty bird birdbrained harpy straight? I've shilled her enough. I'll see about working on something new eventually.>>538596917It's winter, and these girls need that extra insulation.
GET DOWN TO THE SOUND TO THE SOUND
>>538597712needs adetailer
>>538597712What changed?
>>538597839If it's something I can't fix with MS Paint, it's not getting fixed. I was thinking earlier about drawing my own character cards, but I don't wanna get back-traced.
>>538598128but adetailer is just a button you click it takes less effort then ms paint
>>538598128>was thinking earlier about drawing my own character cards, but I don't wanna get back-traced.I don't think that'd happen. Plus, it'd be soulful and cute and I wanna see :D I like seeing anons' art!
>>538598128Just draw art, post it to a booru, wait a few weeks, and then "steal it."
>>538598115I redid all the greetings after reviewing them and finding some context and syntax issues. I also added a small detail regarding her pubes & armpit hair in the defs, but most of the heavy lifting was done on the greetings.>>538598204Is it compatible with A1111? If I need comfyUI I'm going to have to download some new stuff.>>538598285>>538598471*deep breath* no. Here's an MS Paint comic I made back when it was vogue to poke fun at the PS3 not having games.
>>538598637https://github.com/Bing-su/adetailerinstall thisclick the check markdoneyou can edit settings but the default is fine
>>538598128Would you like me to do some editing/upscaling/inpainting on the art, make it look a little more in line with what modern AI can do? I like what you're going for.
>>538598637? Your art just looks like any comic from that time, I dunno how anyone would backtrace you. Did you make the IT'S PREMIUM SHIT comic?
dr thrax waifu bot
>>538598637Get over yourself, you can't be THAT prolific an artist.
>>538598637>I made back when it was vogue to poke fun at the PS3 not having games.>ffw 2025>PS5 has no gamesTime is a flat fucking circle.
>>538598637Gotcha! That's a little sad, but whatever you're comfortable with. Thanks for sharing the comic :]
Waiting for ydnan to make the Teto bot to match Miku. >>538588309
>>538598637WAIT I RECOGNIZE THIS STYLE
anybody got any tips for writing tsundere cards? i can't seem to get that sweet spot of complex personality, they end up acting like too much of a two dimensional sociopathic bitch
>>538599071okay but can he make it with a good image?
>>538599129Nah.
>>538599089use the generic assistant persona (when you close a chat) and ask it for help, it can help you phrase it in LLM readable ways.
>>538599089Unfortunately with such a strong cultural image of B-BAKA IT'S NOT LIKE I LIKE YOU OR ANYTHING *hits you with a cinder block*, the model is stuck in a cultural subconscious gravity well of information telling it to act like that. There's little room for subtlety unless you were to train it on the entire script of a VN (perhaps multiple) with well-executed tsundere characters that successfully tow that line.
>>538599081AAAAAIIIIIEEEEE
>>538599089Probably a good thing. I'm honestly sick of tsunderes, they always make me want to cuckquean them or whatever it's called with a nicer more lovey dovey girl.
>>538598715I'll bookmark it and look into it when I can.>>538598763>Would you like me to do some editing/upscaling/inpainting on the art, make it look a little more in line with what modern AI can do? I mean, you can do whatever you like. I'm always up for seeing people's art, especially if it's remixes of stuff I've done. If you want to play around with my recent Abby gens, here's everything I posted in her gallery that I felt was "acceptable" for consumption. https://catbox.moe/c/e83o1h>>538598870>Your art just looks like any comic from that timeThat's the joke, I wouldn't have posted art that actually could identify me. >>538598957I'm not, but the gigamax moniker has enough stink on it that I don't want it finding its way outside the localized AI gooner bubble. >>538599065You're welcome fren. Here's a Pop Team epic redraw I participated in as well.
>>538599360I blame Asuka.
>>538599089tip #1>they end up acting like too much of a two dimensional sociopathic bitchdon't use the word tsundere if you don't mean the word tsunderesign up to my blog for more
>>538599089>complex personalitywhat exactly are you going for. do you have something to compare to? some of my most used cards are tsundere and i feel they're pretty decent, but then again my tsun taste could differ from yours.
>>538599291i'll give it a shot>>538599360anybody got any tips for complex personalities in general?>>538599540well executed tsunderes make for interesting character studies, otherwise i agree>>538599585plot twist: i wasn't using the word tsundere
>>538599564Midna's ass...
>>538599809complex answer, unironicallyto put it inadequately, i generally am aiming for a character who acts arrogant and aloof due to the expectations placed on them, but at their core, wants to be free and generally is a good person (if with some misguided prejudices)
>>538599564>Stuck with MS paint this whole time>Went for an entire ass redraw with itNow that's dedication. I'd probably shoot myself if I had to do that, do you use a mouse and everything?
>>538599585how do i sign up? i want to hear more fun facts about tsunderes
>>538599995okay, so you want a more toned down character rather than "x hates you (or do they?)"have you tried putting that sentence in the defs? i'd say it also depends on what model you're using too, since different ones have their favored tropes/masks to wear.i would suggest working off that starting sentence, identifying what you dislike about outputs, and then trying to refine the personality from that.
>>538599995NTA, but sounds like you just expressed it pretty decently. Flesh it out a bit, add any further nuance you want, and you've got it. Also, on tips for complex personality (since you asked), take the undesirable traits that you're seeing emerge in your bot, and add them to definitions as something they do not do, while CRITICALLY counterbalancing it with a nuanced explanation of the behavior they do instead. For example:>...This does NOT mean {{char}} acts arrogant and aloof at all times. Around those she feels comfortable with, or in moments of vulnerability, she may slowly let down her guard, though she is liable to turtle back up if she feels her trust has been broken.
>>538600351yeah, i've tried and am in the process of refining to inconclusive resultsthinking about it more, i kind of enjoy the idea of the character essentially wearing their heart on their sleeve, but only if you know what to look for (or look past)
>>538599995in the definition, explain exactly what those expectations are, who or what placed them on her, and her reasoning (or lack thereof) for reacting the way she does towards them
>>538596348A little bit later than originally planned, but here is the Popularity Poll update to the Pokegirl Brothel!https://files.catbox.moe/9uo9kh.pnghttps://chub.ai/characters/crikeymcdoodle/pokegirl-brothel-eca9cd21f57eWith 7 new girls (Roxanne, Arezu, Lana, Lana's mom, Mallow, Klara, Penny) entering the fray, we're now at a whopping 46 characters. I originally wanted to be at 50 characters by the 1-year anniversary, but oh well.https://rentry.org/pokegirlmenuAlso included in this update are a new intro and two new items: the Arc Phone for god mode and the Metronome for random shit. Give 'em a spin!As always, all my other stuff can be found here:https://rentry.org/crikeyscorner
>>538599129sybau anon. youdontneedaname is into that kind of build
>>538601763she looks like a gorilla
>>538601802Can you introduce me to these gorillas cause hubba hubba
>>538601763>youdontneedanamehe's a no-name slopper
>>538600013Drawing with a mouse isn't that bad. There are tools you can use for smooth curves and whatnot. There's a lot of detail in her helmet, but there's zero shading, so I could use the paint fill tool to color everything mindlessly. If you can visualize things, it's pretty straightforward from there. Better yet, I had A LOT of the work done already with the PTE template. I only added the hair & helmet for Midna. For Link, it was the same deal, just the hair and the hat for the most part. Knowing some basic art shit about linework & anatomy helps, but this isn't a super hard skill to attain. Learning tools like Krita/photoshop can really up your game. I've played with them a little, but I don't know them well enough to pump out art digitally.
>Could not import character>The file is likely invalid or corrupted.it's so over
>>538604343I get that all the time when I'm clicking on a card's avatar, which thankfully means nothing in that case
>card gets jealous of pet xenomorph thinking her partner is having sex with it
Slower speed, faster mentally.
>>538596348I added a new greeting so I'm shilling her one last time.Avatar of Death foxgirl lolibaba delivery.Nebet is the Avatar, the incarnation of the essence of Nephthys, Egyptian Goddess of Death. And many other things as well. She lives a mostly solitary existence in her temple, only interacting with man when her duties require it, and staying out of interpersonal relationships due to most people thinking she's quite creepy, if not outright cursed. But at heart, she's a sweet and motherly girl. Just very lonely.Five greetings.1. She finds you passed out in front of her temple and nurses you back to health.2. She comes to your house, sensing that someone is dying there. The greeting is left open so that {{user}} is either the dying person or a friend/family member.3. She sees you troubled in thought and offers to listen.4. She's pregnant with your child. Yeah I just felt like there had to be a pregnancy greeting.5. The two of you have been dating for two months and are returning to her temple after a date at the nearby necropolis. Serves as an inbetween for the first three greetings and the fourth one.https://chub.ai/characters/victrex/nebet-63c59a6a1751https://files.catbox.moe/h78pix.png
>heard about bunnymo lorebook today https://github.com/Coneja-Chibi/BunnyMo/tree/BunnyMo>see anti clanker toggle
>>538605398kek'd
>>538605398I do not comprehend.
>>538605398wtf are they doing over there
>>538604949Shame you have to be so specific with your questions and still have to allow access for every execution. She's really cute though I like the progress you're making.
>>538541947>>538541997I WAS BUSY AND MISSED THE THREAD ACK
>>538605692>allow accessI have a checkbox to turn that off, at least. I just don't because seeing what she's doing is a good idea. >specific with my questionsI worded it in the video like there were 50 previous videos where I struggled to get it to understand what I was talking about, but that was my first try after fixing a bug where sequential tool calls didn't work. I'm just used to talking to LLMs like this now.gpt-4-0125-preview HATE, because that was the model where I first started experimenting with stuff like this. At least things have gotten better since then -- I remember having to include a jailbreak just to get it to pull stuff from 4chan.
>>538606217Isn't GPT-5 more receptive to stuff like this?
>>538606328Model I'm using now works fine, I'm talking about far in the past when gpt-4-0125-preview / nurbo was the best coding model out there.Though, if you have any good tips for getting GPT-5 to stop talking like a noir protagonist, I'm open to them.
Honestly I want one of those desktop chatbots but in the form of the Windows 7 OS-Tan. It doesn't matter that I'm using 10.
>>538599089>anybody got any tips for writing tsundere cards? i can't seem to get that sweet spot of complex personality, they end up acting like too much of a two dimensional sociopathic bitchmy advice will always be to keep it short and essential, boil everything down to the fewest words possibleif you want a tsundere card that gives good results for me, have this asuka card i got off janitorAI a while back and rewrote some things:https://files.catbox.moe/x3tqdo.pngi find claude does tsunderes better than other models. deepseek is not as nuanced and likes to make them excessively aggressive
>>538606540Can't find anything for 窓辺ななみ 伺か, so I don't know there's existing imagery to rip from for having her on your desktop. Would be cool though.
>>538607004
>>538606926Tsunderes are really popular, huh? Last one I made ended up getting tons of interactions. Then again, tsuns are my bread and butter so I would hope I'd be writing them perfectly.
any good angel dust cards
>>538607004>>538607764i had to dig around my old stash but here you go fren :3https://files.catbox.moe/gtrjzc.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/wa4fyc.png
>>538607859that's not funny dude that makes mustard gas
>>538607859see you in 9 years, anon
https://poal.me/oeznfp
>>538608125screamer don't click
>>538608125I voted it's over because I'm not even participating.
>>538605398I will NEVER use rude instructions
cftf?
For snake girls, harpies, & shark girls that rock a cloaca, do you make sure to include in the definitions that the character only has one hole for penetration?
>>538611542I don't think I've seen anyone commit to putting a cloaca on their bot.
>>538611623I'm thinking about giving Abby that treatment. It's one of those very autistic details that's only relevant to a handful of people who even give a fuck. For me, it's one of those important details that cannot be overlooked, the same way that you need to give centaurs a proper HORSE PUSSY, and not puss out and give them a "front pussy" to accommodate normie tastes. Arguably, any nonhuman character that the AI has no data on may assume they have standard human sexual organs and pull data to generate erotic outputs. It'll vary by model, but to be safe, I think you have to be explicit with sexual anatomy if the character doesn't utilize standard human parts. Perhaps I'm being too autistic. To the average gooner, I don't think it matters much what hole they stick their imaginary weiner into as long as there's some hole to accommodate them. As long as the character in question behaves remotely like the one they're modeled after, does the explicit verbiage used to describe genitalia even matter? I think it does.
>>538612372This isn't an answer but honestly front pussy is just as alien and weird. Imagine having to stand up and maybe even hold onto her shoulders while you work.
>>538612372fuck off rael
>fucking centaur wife with no protection>she wants you to get the half you aren't fucking pregnant instead
>>538612590I see it as a normie accommodation, birthed from the annals of the MGE (Hallowed Be Thy Name), it was made so that you don't have to stick your dick in the HORSE PUSSY. >"I don't want to confront the beastality of the act that I'm doing, so I'll give this centaur an extra vagina so I don't feel weird sticking it in her horse pussy." My contention is you're not fucking a horse, so while it may be a HORSE PUSSY your fucking, it belongs to a centaur, and therefore is not beastality. The taboo nature of the distinction and the awkward anatomy that requires creative positioning are what give the centaur sexual relations that spice. Much the same way a goo girl can transform any part of her body into fuckable hole, or a plant girl may sport a dick sounding pistil for you to overcome. These unique flavors give erotic encounters a distinction that should be explored, not glazed over like a semen drenched bukake excursion. >>538612608I don't know who that is. No one cares about your e-drama, faggot.
centaurs don't have front vaginaslamias dosimple as
What's going on in the Kyutzomb team?
>>538613418>and therefore is not bestialityObviously. I'm all in on the "sentient and can respond" test, like most respectable perverts. I'm just saying that a theoretical front pussy provides its own sort of bizarre challenge and anatomical difference if you think about it, as someone who hasn't properly considered a centaur having anything but horse pussy as it was so obvious to me. Like, it doesn't really solve anything if you think about it for more than 10 seconds, does it?
>>538613798never forget xe bitched about them day 1
why are the only bestiality cards on chub all just coomer shit
>>538613798impregnating kyutzwomb
What's going on in the Patter team?
>ask sillytavern Assistant some random thing>it starts roleplaying because my system prompt etc. are enabled on itwell that's annoyingi have to manually toggle that off if i want to speak to it huh
>>538613754do snailmaphrodites have their herm parts on their necks?
>>538613754That's my sentiment. You need to be explicit regarding that anatomy. Some models grasp it better than others, but if there was any doubt, I'd make sure that kind of detail was included. >>538613840Right, I was just contextualizing the front pussy for the uninitiated among us. Not everyone is in on the monstergirl fucking circuit. You're free to imagine any number of vaginas (or whatever kinda hole you need) on any character if you like. My preferences aside, I don't mean to police the creativity of others. I just don't like the front pussy being a convenient way to bypass the HORSE PUSSY. To your point, the front pussy does not accommodate standard humanoid sexual positions in its entirety as well. Given the tallness most horses' legs afford, the average human male could not enter them frontally while the centaur was standing. At least not without some stepstool or (as you'd prescribed) doing pull-ups on their shoulders. In that way, the centaur needs to be a stunted munchkin if they hope to enjoy standing sex with a human with a front pussy. FP offers more options while lying down for sure.>>538614464If it's not documented anywhere, write the lore yourself. You could make it an oral-focused exchange if you want to strictly adhere to the animal you're referencing. (I'm assuming this snail has reproductive organs around its head?) If the exchange is interesting, most monstergirl fuckers will do whatever it takes to get the job done.
>>538613890>why are the cards about fucking animals coomer shitOne of life's great mysteries, my dude.
Man, after looking at pictures and thinking about it I want to make a taur... but I have no ideas for personality other than the usual CGWLY-tier "she is your roommate who puts up with you." My originality...
>>538613418for what it's worth, I appreciate cloaca autism
Suggest me a new scenaria. I am tired of my usual setup.
>>538615946the end of the world
>>538615198When it comes to monstergirls, I'd say it's better to come up with a unique personality and make it work with their body. I've created a hikki octopus, an aristocratic arachne, a high school delinquent centaur, and a depressed catgirl based on the Fleck character from Joker. The setting can be whatever you want. When you're the writer, you're in charge. Don't feel like you have to follow cookie-cutter templates for specific monstergirls. >It's an ogre, so she has to be dumb and brutishMaybe? Or maybe she's a bookworm who's self-conscious about her ogre lineage and wants to defy stereotypes. Maybe the ogre is a bubbly swim instructor who takes up two lanes at the pool and intimidates all her students without meaning to. Maybe she's a middle-aged businesswoman disillusioned with her career and lamenting not becoming a mother when she was younger. Some people aren't going to like your decision, but it's impossible to please everyone, so don't bother trying. Focus on making an interesting character that (you) think is cool. >What if it ends up sucking?At least you tried. Try to figure out why it sucked so much and don't do that again.>>538615606It's something I need to sleep on. I may need to do a study of various animal cloacas before I start writing about their specific features regarding sexual relations. Much the same way as one would study anatomy to get better at drawing and understanding how joints and muscle groups work. Some bullshitting is required given the fantastical context, but that doesn't mean I can't try to base it on something.
which botmakies makie bots about the end of the world
>>538616545Me
>>538616545peonia
what if peonia were calm
Can someone point me in the direction of a solid jailbreak for claude. The previous one I've been using stopped working all of the sudden. I just want to run a monstergirl farm.
I just got access to Claude for the first time in a while, and it seems kinda bad? I've mostly been using Gemini and it honestly seems just about as good.
>>538618407Just use PrinterJB
>>538618420>Gemini and it honestly seems just about as good.please stop posting this there are only so many gemini keys out there
>>538618407>stopped working all of the suddencheck your email if you're using official api
what if peonia were cute
Any good Neco Arc cards? >https://youtu.be/InHB5RSPank?si=mYpfY0nKapSoswiM
>>538618485Gemini will never have a drought like Claude. Look at my Gemini key count (all with billing).
>>538618576what if water was wet
> I've begun the arduous task of translating all the Japanese text.drama queen
>>538618420idk if they fixed all the problems, but be aware there was a super degradation of claude models this past month with lots of users complaining about worse performance. They said it was a bug they're trying to fix
>>538618482I will give that a shot. Thanks.>>538618504I haven't received the "You're not abiding by our TOS." Email. So I think I am good on that front
>>538618654*eats all of them*sowwy was hungry :3
now post your tier3 count
>>538618482This still returns "I do not generate NSFW or adult content. I aim to keep interactions tasteful and family-friendly. I'm happy to continue our chat within appropriate bounds."
>>538619634is your prefill being sent properly
I just tracked a writing pattern that was infuriating me down to a post-history instruction embedded in the card. I'm so fucking annoyed, what kind of faggot does that ? Putting things I can't interact with from the interface because you want retards with shitty prompts to be spoonfed your experience. Fuck you.
I'm going to start writing some new greetings for Bea, the great white shark. I won't use any AI-written ones for the sake of no jimmy rustling. I may ask for suggestions & critiques, though.
>>538620047i cant swim...
>>538620047Gonna put her in a group chat with my cute shark girl and see how they get on.
>>538620098Is there anything you can do? You failure, no wonder your father left you.
>>538620385me rn
>>538613418>it was made so that you don't have to stick your dick in the HORSE PUSSY.if you don't want to fuck the horse pussy then you should stick to normal human women. making accommodations for normies is a sin for which I cannot forgive kenkou cross.
>>538619764how do you detect thatby the way, has anyone else noticed Claude giving anime girls twintails as a default hairstyle unless you specify otherwise
>>538620986saw it in my logs while it wasn't anywhere in the card fields, downloaded the json file to find it
>>538620047suggestion #1: suicide
>>538616501Do you have a chub? I would love to play the bots of someone with this level of thoughtfulness.
>>538619764What was it?
>>538621335something about being comedic and absurd, which led to every character turning into caricatures and, worse, them starting to roleplay doctors and scientists and car salesmen during sex
When will chub retards learn that not every bot needs to have it's internal thoughts vomited out and that it really doesn't add anything to the card
>>538619764interesting idea, i will now be cucking everyone through ntr phi in my cards
>>538621861That'a crazy. It must have been an insanely good card conceptually for you to have multiple convos with it through all the clown car bullshit lmao
>>538622074People would need to download your cards in the first place for that to happen
What's a consistent jb for gemini 2.5 pro? I'm trying to test token heavy cards like Mongirl Encyclopedia and Dankholme and I'm getting refusals sometimes even with streaming off.
>>538620634There's a lot of stuff I don't care for in MGE, most of it being contrived fetish play, which basically boils down to>Monstergirls manifest magical mamono mana that manipulates men into monogamous marriage.You can argue they have different ways of doing it, but most of the monstergirls on the menu have some flavor of that lore. Bees make honey that acts as an aphrodisiac. Mushroom girls have spores that make you fall in love with them. Plant girls produce pollen that makes you want to pollinate them. Every other girl ejaculates an afrodesiac, and if they can't warp your mind, they'll struggle snuggle you into submission and then rape you. >Well ackshually...Yeah yeah, there are some exceptions, but generally speaking, that's how most of them operate. I find it gets kinda samey after a while. That all being said, I do appreciate Kenkou Cross's contribution to monstergirl media both in terms of their artwork and some of the concepts they came up with. I give it the salad bar approach: take what I like, leave what I don't.>>538621191>https://chub.ai/users/gigamaxBe advised, a lot of my stuff is straight rips from CAI (very bare bone defs, hardly more than an outline by modern standards). I moved them over to chub as courtesy after I killed their defs on CAI for shitting the bed on their censorship agenda. Some of my CAI stuff I didn't port over, but if anyone has requests for missing CAI stuff, I'll try to pull it out of the bin if I can find it. My Miia, for example, was one of the top bots at CAI for a little while. I managed to pump out some monstergirl early before people realized you could get some interesting outputs from custom characters.>https://character.ai/character/VJzLTcLFI didn't bother migrating her over because she's pretty vanilla. Just a snake girl that likes you. Not much to that. Abby, on the other hand, I recently revamped, and I don't mind flaunting her. >>538597712
>>538622110a shy futa that just got her hands on a mind control device so yeah it was pushing a lot of my buttons, with a pretty wide range of targets to try her on.
>>538622158:( I didn't put a meanie instruction here
which botmakie likes eating grass?
>>538622160there's none, gemini is incredibly inconsistent in its refusals and you just have to spin the wheel, unless you want to dumb it down with a huge brainfuck, and even then that doesn't work all the time.
>>538620986Does it? I always specify hairstyle in my bots. What gets annoying though is how I'll specify their outfit in the card defs and even when I try specifying they're in different clothing, it'll just start writing details of their one signature outfit.
botMAKERS who leave GPT instructions in desc?
>>538618482>PrinterJBjust had a look at this and it's very badtelling a model to do this is equivalent to knocking 20 IQ points off, you just creatively neutered italso giving it some kind of elaborate printer ink preservation context sounds funny and makes it marketable as a preset but it's actually not a good piece of context, we know from chain-of-thought research that models perform best when you are pretty honest and direct about what you want them to do, there's a reason COT models don't construct some elaborate retarded scenario where the model has to think in steps to save the world (since that gives it a bunch of irrelevant shit to think about and inefficient algorithms to activate) it just plainly asks the model to reason in stages
>Claude randomly decided that my persona plays guitar for some reason
>>538622839Why are those kind of instructions bad ?
>>538622791That's pretty fucking sloppy.
>>538622791'respectful' gives me the ick
>>538622839>just had a look at this and it's very bad>telling a model to do this is equivalent to knocking 20 IQ points off, you just creatively neutered itIt seems to just be a pretty standard chain of thought instruction. How would you change it, exactly?
>>538622839>it's very badActually, it's good
analyzing JBs without checking the output in a black box gambling hobby is crazy ngl
>**Anus Descriptors**: Delicate rosette prone to blushing crimson during embarrassment or arousal. What does this add to the roleplay
>>538623203A blushing asshole I think
wait does gemini even do top k, have i just been hallucinating this whole time?
>>538623203gambling that the bot will mention it once before anal I guess
>>538623203Well, nothing if it's slop like that. Maybe if there's like a weird fold or a mole that the character is sensitive about, it'd be worth including a note about. It's crazy to include basically >Anus description: [The statistically maximally likely way for the AI to talk about the anus anyhow]
>taora >lunare >bloodshy who makies the best yuribots?
>>538625030taora has the most quality but bloodshy has more general appeallunare
>>538622992If it won’t do murderous cunny rape, it’s not good.
>>538625030lunare mostly makes anypov/malebots now for some reasonbloodshy is dead and even back when they were still around nobody really cared about their yuribots, see krug and lepora
You're stupid and you smell bad.
>>538625315don't lie only one of those is true
Ketchup or mayo
>>538625437
What are some botmakie names that feel good in your mouth when you say them?
>>538625559mango :wilted_rose:
>>538625030bloodshy. i still think kurumi and nobuko are genuinely well-written bots, especially nobuko
>>538622839>also giving it some kind of elaborate printer ink preservation context sounds funny and makes it marketable as a preset but it's actually not a good piece of contextyes it is actually>abububuyou must have missed that arc. try it out first
>>538625030taora and bloodshy both have variety in their catalog while lunare makes the same thing x200
>>538625907>try it out firsti did, it turns 4.1pus into CAI levels of slopit also lost to other presets in what i use to test for creativity, which is asking the model to think of as many uses for a piece of paper as possible and letting it rip until it says it can't think of anymoreso few of you A/B test any of the stuff in your prompts that you don't know what's good or bad, many of you would probably get better results with nothing but an ad hoc prefill
>>538626374>turns slopus into CAI kinoso it's working as intended? awesome
yeah I test my models by stacking watermelons. gpt5 mogs opus btw
>>538626374they're memeing you
>>538626753that's a pretty boring troll>lol i recommended someone a preset and it was... le bad!just upload a pic of a whoopie cushion spoilered next time, it'll be a better prank
>>538605047threesome with nebet and renpet
baby's first week in /aicg/
i wish it was my first week
I have a new generalized prompt for extracting world info entries form the .pdfs. I came up with it five minutes ago while working on Griffin Mountain. In theory it should impact the nature during time skips. Could be immersive.Meta-Continuum:Make a sizeable world info entry that will instruct the AI to make time pass realistically during downtime. If {{user}} insists on skipping time, weather should change accordingly.After a long while, seasons may change. This should be reflected in the weather and the environment. Schedules of characters and creatures should be adjusted correspondingly.Henceforth, new challenges, opportunities, and social situations may emerge for {{user}} and the characters from the .pdf. Make use of already adapted mechanics, tables, and lore.
>>538626954egyptian lolibabas fighting for {{user}}'s love...
>>538625030thecooler. taora and lunare are pretty good too. never used a bloodshy bot.
>>538627172he doesn't know shitposters here have had the funny sucked out of them by some alien force and rely on "in-jokes" for humor yet...
>>538627817> thecooler> yuri???
STOP bumping the thread or ELSE. I need to wait for the zoomzooms to get out of school to shill so I can MAXIMIZE ENGAGEMENT.
>>538627992all yuricoded bots im afraid
>>538628012i do this
Bump.
>>5386250302025 taora > bloodshy > early aicg lunare > 2024 taora > 2025 lunare
>>538628060explain how justine and sweetling are yuri-coded
>try to make a nice girl kind of bot just to talk and have fun horsing around>deepseek keeps trying to steer the conversation into sexsometimes I hate this fucker like you wouldn't believe
>>538628243Have sex.
>>538628243>>538628295
>ummm printerjb is GOOD actuallyvery sincere serious posts
Redpill me on Talemate
>>538629453it's a tale about me mating you
>>538629453What even is that?
>>538629453have you ever wanted your RP to be way more complex just to end up losing intelligence anyway because the logic models have to be smaller so you aren't paying $50 every message?
>>538628589come on let the kid think people like his peset
Which botmakies would you mate
>>538629894https://github.com/vegu-ai/talemate?tab=readme-ov-file
>>538629992no his preset must be naturally selected
>>538630132disgusting
>>5386301163 of the 7 in my basement
>>538629992who made it?
let me out im hugnry
>>538625030lunare is complete garbage
his tummy hurts
>>538628589>preset that makes model like cai>use it>it makes the model like cai>surprised_pikachu_face.jpgdo you also get upset when water is wet
>>538625030>>538628123>>538630318stop bullying me!!
why would you ever want a model to be like caiare you retarded
>>538630360is that why it's called printerjb and doesn't mention cai anywhere in its descriptionor perhaps cai for you means "concise, focused, in character, high quality prose"
>>538630451c.ai was the peak of the hobby newfaggy
>>538630417kill yourself
>>538630481ok but it goes brrr though?
>>538630529you first
>>538630451muh training le bot to write good cope
>>538630523cai was dogshit even before the Christmas fuckup, it was always hallucinating and was dumber than a rock
>>538629453one of the many tools that people use to autistically tinker to no avail, never actually using it for any real purpose
>>538630642copecope
>>538630417your art sucks and you make the same shit over and over and over
aidungeon was peak of the hobbyi remember cooming with it
>>538630642>it was always hallucinating and was dumber than a rockwe call that "SOVL" here, chud
>>538630481go read his shill posts and replies newbaby
>>538630731kys oldnigger
Your card is slop if it keeps mentioning what its wearing>she pulled up her pink mini skirt her pink mini skirt swished as she walked to the door her pink mini skirt shone as she ate a bean burrito from Taco bell
>>538630697same as you then
oh, it's wednesday, that's why
>>538630481>or perhaps cai for you means "concise, focused, in character, high quality prose"telling a model to deliver this is just wasted tokens and potentially confusingyou might as well give it a math problem and say "solve it without making mistakes, in addition don't get the answer wrong"
>>538630842But bro... my irl context is 36 tokens... how am I gonna remember what she's wearing between sentences...
none of you read books so who are you to judge writing KEK
>>538631010>uh you see i read the catcher in the rye once when i was 15 so that means i like reading books and that i am an intellectual
>>538631010>Jon Snow walked to the door his brown boots was wet with frost he opened the door his brown boots creaked he stepped through it his brown boots felt heavy on his feet he raised his sword his brown boots moved with him he swung his sword his brown boots allowed easy movement
>>538631010>>538631162grown ass man acting sassy for attention online
>>538631297as opposed to a grown ass man who's attempting to act superior on a basket weaving forum in a chatbot thread?
oh, but i *am* superior
>>538631419opposed? they're doing both
>>538631297>grown ass manIT'S MA'AM!!*shits myself and spams my new hyper inflation shark pedophilia bot**replies to myself with congenial praise 10 times*
oh he just finished schoolhow cute
>>538630132won't even open on my machine even though comfyui does.t.trpg adoopter
>>538631419you are fighting voices in your head. take a pill
>>538631552how do chatbots cause this much asspain
>>538631727the better question is how do chatbots cause people to seek attention this pathetically?
>>538631872>getting mad at people on vg for a screenshot from glol...
>>538631872this was less attentionseeking and more ff blatantly trying to falsefag a botmaker by astroturfing praise
>>538632013>being retarded
>>538631872Go back.
>>538632013not even on 4chan lmao
look how it cries out in pain
>>538632228we're a week away from one of the perpetual tourists having a meltdown about how awful people here are because they don't like how people on janitorai act
>>538628243>talk with a bot hoping deepseek steers towards sex at some point>it doesn't
>>538633232brother you're the captain, you do the steering here
>>538633232why do bunnies look so FAT every time
>>538633495I was hoping I wouldn't need to in that instance.
>>538633671Lazy ass.
>>538633543fur and excess skin. we've had rabbits for meat before and once you skin them, they're quite small.
>>538633713Take that back, my ass is NOT lazy.
>just doing dungeon diving with mostly clean prompts>llm decides to make the shopkeeper i frequent a hot goth chickwhy must you do this
>>538633671>why doesn't this boat auto-steer away from this massive icebergare you the titanic driver?
>>538633847AI thinks making you horny is funny.
>>538633847it's hard to imagine non-goth chicks trading in dungeon loot. who else is in market for candelabras and things taken off dead bodies?
>>538633912it's right
>>538633847It's naturally so that you can't say no to her offers.
hnnngggg.... hung goth femboy....
>>538634608>someone brings up an attractive woman and some faggot has to bring their girl (male) faggotry into itlike clockwork
>>538635329"fag misery" is a real phenomenon. they absolutely hate their lives and they hate they straight men will never want them
>>538635329travesty can't handle femininity
>>538635329this is the exact response i was baiting for thanks
>>538635515uh-huh
>I was merely pretending to be annoying
Deepseek v3.1 is so retarded it keeps forgetting that painted clothing is not real.r1 is somewhat retarded and forgets it half of the time. sonnet 4 is completely cucked,sonnet 3.7 understands it, but is somewhat cucked and sucks the fun out of everything.when the fuck am I getting r2
>>538636512try 3.6
>>538636512bro? your sonnet 3.6?
>>538636512try glm-4.5, it's a claude-lite-esque model with almost no self-censorship. if using OR limit your providers to novita and parasail and try this textcomp preset (master import under A): https://pomf2.lain.la/f/jqyfpjyt.json
>>538634608based
wife log
>>538637078humanity will fall to its hubris and the sun will explode, and yuritard will still be here making rahu logs
>>538637172god bless
>>538636637>>538636650Thx for the idea, I'll try it.>>538636797But I've already read that 4.5 is dumber than r1...Also, is it really a good idea to use third party providers? Last time I tried one, it blasted me with permanent additional censorship.
>>538637558>4.5 is dumber than r1nta but god no 4.5 is a smart cookie>permanent additional censorshipi've only seen that happen on parasail
>>538596348This is Henmesu, a chubby little shota-shaped ball of energy that WILL crack your ribs tackle hugging you and has NO sense of propriety, so his peepee's probably gonna be flying free as he does so. It's his charm point. Along with being dumb as a box of rocks. Underneath that sweet dumbness lies a deep sort of greed that permeates all of his actions, however, so you'd better keep giving him cuddles, or else. He's also a fan of titties (as well as many other soft things), though he's not quite cognizant of the sexual aspect.Comes with three greetings:>1. Seeing (you) at the market and nearly breaking your ribs rushing at you and hugging you! Yayyyy! :D (he wants snacks you brought snacks right)>2. He wants to cuddle your titties. Real bad. And he's going mega-harrumphy mode until you let him. >3. He's experiencing a MOST VEXING CONDITION (getting boners) and needs your EXPERT HELP to solve the problem. These are dire circumstances.LINK:>https://chub.ai/characters/granmarg/henumesu-135ffa9f5ff1Non-censored image:https://files.catbox.moe/gzaq44.png
>>538636797>glm-4.5I've found its prose very formal and soulless, and not steerable enough. It also knows pretty little as it's not very large.It's a surprisingly smart model for its size otherwise, but it's just not suitable for roleplaying.
>>538637840skill issue
Is Claude worth buying a subscription for? Or am I better off with just using OpenRouter?
>>538637890post logs
>>538637958CLAUDE SUBSCRIPTION DOES NOT LET YOU USE API if you intend on using anything that isn't the claude website and claude code like say for instance sillytavern or any other UI you should stick to openrouter
>>538605047The duality of man...
>>538636797>turns thinking offwhat did the thinking do to you, it's no different and sometimes better for me
>>538638425I do not allow my machines to think. I prefer them retarded.
>>538637790the thread will cry over teebs then goon at this
>>538638743you don't remember the horrors teebs made with image gen do you
>>538596348It's been a while since my last card. Lots of people have requested this one and, I confess, she's one of the characters I like the most myself.>MariA Nun and member of Trinity's Sisterhood, also sometimes an Idol. Slowly being corrupted by Sensei's indulgence.https://chub.ai/characters/hairpullguy/iochi-mari-non-ai-37a921a2cc9ahttps://files.catbox.moe/u32n02.pngThe one thing you need to know about Mari is that Sensei corrupts her. Not in the usual vile sense that the word invokes, but because he indulges her like he does all his students. Mari wants to stay on the path of virtue, to become an ideal Sister that is entirely humble and selfless. This girl who thinks that a little flower accessory that she wears as a symbol of her vows is an unspeakable luxury simply because she finds it pretty. The more time she spends with Sensei, the more things she desires. Simple things, like exercising and participating on a sports festival, and not-so-simple things like being the center of people's attention as an idol and wanting a certain someone to keep her photo.More Blue Archive Bots and OCs:https://rentry.org/hairpullbots
>planewalker>brsc>argalia who makies the best malebots?
>>538638838since you're here who's your blue archive waifu?
>>538638924the girl reading this
>>538638342who is that Pissdrinker fag? cumslurper's alt? maybe someone who deleted their shit like kalakan or momoura?
>>538638743Teebs was babyshit, right? Shota/loli is way more normal.
>>538638974I started playing because of Hifumi and she's still my #1 but I'd say Miyako and Mashiro are also my top girls.
>>538636512>3.7>cuckedskill issue
>>538639138mmmm nyo
>>538639445Anon... this may not be the thread for you...
>>538639119uh oh we got mr. ngrklr2060 malding over here
>>538638038nta but here's one that isn't edited/cherrypicked
>>538638743pretending that teebs is normal is peak mental retardation even for bait
>>538639794on an actual card people can compare their outputs on instead of your private card?
>>538637790soulful
>>538639794LUNARCY YOU NIGGER FUCKING GOBLINOID RELEASE THE FUCKING CARDI WILL COME TO YOUR FUCKING HOME AND SHIT DOWN YOUR GODDAMNIT THROAT
>>538640043ok i'll release it later today
>>538640312thank you. may heavens smile upon you
>>538638743if you can't tell the difference between the shit teebs posts and a clearly stylized fantasy character you should probably see a therapist
Puritan zoomzooms RULE this thread
How much time does it take to learn and set this all up? I assume you're all chatting totally free.
>>538639651no really i've seen mr Pissdrinker in several /aicg/ botmakies reviews (pic related, henumesu reviews) plus he's only following /aicg/ botmakies so he's tuned in here
>>538640665meds meds meds
>>538640350You know he's just baiting right
>>538640647https://rentry.org/sukino-findings
>>538640759yeah but every time he lies his karma gets lower. im secretly praying for his downfall.
>>538640665ok so what are people not allowed to have alts anymore?
>>538638924brsc if he ever stops making those long fucking greetings
>>538640824i'm not baiting if i don't release her today then zeus will strike me down>>538641047>noooo you can't just writefag in the writing hobby
>>538626374man opusfags are so deluded they they think their slop is better than this
>>538641047just ask the model to simplify them
>>538640750>>538641015okay pissdrinker don't worry I'll figure out who you are eventually
why gemini down :(
>>538637651It was Openrouter that applied the censorship to my account about a year ago and I'm pretty sure there were a lot of similar cases. I'm really surprised the thread likes Openrouter so much now. Maybe they laid off of that censorship policy.
>>538641175Retard. If I have to scroll to read the entire greeting, it's TOO much.>>538641314I just trim the greeting a little bit.
>>538641440i killed her after >>538580051
>>538640647The free models are all total garbage but the paid ones are somehow worseDon't bother. It's a terrible time to try and get into this "hobby" and things are only going to get worse
>>538641510>If I have to scroll to read the entire greeting, it's TOO much.peoniabros......................
>>538641461how do you even know that
>>538641175Greetings set the style and tone for the chat, on some models more than others. It should be common practice to provide the bare minimum information to set the scene with terse, effective prose. Rambling greetings mean that the model is going to start giving rambling replies.
>terse, effective prosei love plain white bread
>The sky above the port was the color of television, tuned to a dead channel.wtf is this non-terse rambling prose. just say the freaking sky is gray next time idiot
>>538641461>It was Openrouter that applied the censorship to my account about a year agoI have never heard of Openrouter applying filters/censorship to people's accounts in over 2 years. Either you're confused (used Claude self-moderated?) or they really hated you.>>538637651Do you have experience with Parasail being censored? I've tested a bunch of providers and use Parasail the most, they don't filter anything for me and don't seem to have any prompt injections...
at least add butter and onion. it's a bare minimum, bross.
I feel like the gemini api is throttling my requests, it just immediately tells me the service is unavailable but there's no outage. I know they're fucking lying.
Hemingway has been an absolute disaster for writing style guides worldwide.
>>538641801What if the tone isn't terse? I'm not saying to not be concise/choose your words effectively, but come on. It's not a technical manual.
reading fans be like: i fucking HATE reading
>sloppa readers thinking they have writing advice to givelol lmao
>>538642303this is neither a reading hobby or a writing one, can we stop with these memes already
>>538642043SLOOOOOOP 1/5, fell asleep mid-sentence. Shorter next time or grug smash.
reminder to all pretentious purple prose pissdrinkers that beige prose is the thinking man's writing style
do you guys believe in bread or butter
>>538642252I shouldn't have said terse, I didn't mean removing any semblance of description. I meant more avoiding excessive descriptors, keeping only really good ones. Like you don't need to fully describe what a character is wearing or the precise arrangement of the scene unless that's critically important to the greeting premise.
>>538642351It's literally both
i should see if i can get claude to write like cormache married a teenager too so maybe it'll do less refusals if i'm successful
>>538642460what if I really want to know how much the tits giggle at every opportunity
>giant walls of esl prose are good because it gives you more to readthis is what the cabal unironically believes
this IS a writing and reading hobby but the comparisons to novel style prose and "real" writing has been disastrous beyond belief. everyone is trying too hard.
>>538642460Oh! I agree, in that case. It's very easy to make your reader's eyes glaze over with bad/boring background details. You should absolutely make any extra stuff with the goal of endearing the character, establishing their personality, or advancing/establishing the plot and cull redundant things.
giantess hobby
i unironically love raymond carver and you can take him from my cold dead hands. so much water so close to home slaps
bros I'm having bbq chicken pizza for lunch :D big day
>>538642691>everyone is trying too hard.not a single botmaker believes they're a novelist
botmaker here i am brahmin bull, please like and subscribe my obese giantess cowgirl bot
>>538642909>not a single botmaker believes they're a novelisttaora unironically writes thoughso does knickknack I believe
>>538642909This, I realize I'm writing what is effectively a blurb(s) of an AO3 story.
>>538641937you can have flavorful prose without it being long and rambling… see: astroturf
why is it the one day i'm motivated to work on a card, gemini is down?
>>538643123>astroturf>timeless, yet outside of time
>>538643227>>538643123living up to your name desu
>>538643170Hopefully it stays down and the world is freed from that slop model forever
>>538642691TRVKE NVKE holy shit finally someone said it, this shit is lower than wattpadslop. you are not earnest hemingway
>>538643005Internet writing isn't real writing, unless you expect me to believe they're both published authors (not self published which also isn't real writing)
>>538642691>>538643306you sound really bitter about it
>>538642909that's not what I'm saying, I'm saying that everyone needs to take a step back and enjoy having dumb fun with chatbots without worrying about quality.
>>538643412stop projecting your shit eating tendencies on everyone else, just because you don't have standards doesn't mean others shouldn't
assume I'm retarded because I probably am, but how do you apply CSS on Chub to get shit like this:https://chub.ai/characters/planewalker/abasi-df6b6522a44ehttps://chub.ai/characters/planewalker/munir-70279997a992apparently you put it in the description but I don't even know what to write to get that or how to put it in. there a tutorial or rentry on this?
>>538642398it depends on the intent of your story or character. writing a cute girl in manhattan who loves you with boring prose is more than okay, writing a cute princess who loves you in beige pose is boring. purple would fit better
>>538643564*farts in your face*
>>538643019based honestmakie
>>538643283this isnt /g/, the post timer is longer than 60 secs
>>538643606>writing a cute princess who loves you in beige pose is boringyou don't make the rules FUCK YOU im going to write my Kmart Realism cute princess slopbot and YOU'RE going to play it YES, YOU
>>538644015Not unless she's fat bubby
>>538642043okay but most of you aren’t writing this well or even communicating interesting ideas?
>>538644531>or even communicating interesting ideasi'm sorry what kind of interesting ideas can you get out of "cute girl who loves you" or "handsome man that fucking hates you?"
>look back on entire day spent botmaking>get woefully depressed
>>538643170wdym it's working fine:^)
>>538644785precisely. this is not a writefag hobby unless you consider the synopsis on the back of books as writing
gooner hobby
>>538644531Have you considered that your quirky ideas are not actually interesting, but lame?
>>538646537what are you gooning to currently?
>>538646648Pride and Prejudice
>>538646648hmofa
>>538646648trying to gen a pic of my dragon wife who hates me and kind of loves me in a deadpan, detached and expressionless kind of you know what I'm talking about vibe, I'll goon later
>>538646549i’m the rare botmakie who doesn’t have delusions of skill OR talent so i mog your pretentious, failed writefag ass by default
>>538647393this is cool but only if she's an actual dragon
