Billy Girl EditionThreadlocked: >>538599035>Latest patch:https://forums.playdeadlock.com/threads/09-04-2025-update.80693/>Steam Page:https://store.steampowered.com/app/1422450/>Where to leave feedback and report bugs:https://forums.playdeadlock.com/>How do I git in?Post your Steam profile and ask. You need to accept a friend request to be invited, so don't be a sperg.>How do I git gud?Do the tutorial, get a feel for each hero in sandbox mode, explore public item builds, watch replays. Playing a Hero for the first time will put you into a lower rank game*, so don't worry about it too much.Additional Resources:>Unofficial Wikihttps://deadlock.wiki>New Player Guidehttps://docs.google.com/document/d/1lMBE7Nli_sVJ42d-kPHjF3MBaXZdIM46gNJQC_fMGMU/edit>Advanced Movement Guidehttps://www.dlmovement.wiki/>Unofficial Stat Trackerhttps://statlocker.gg/https://tracklock.gg/>Unofficial Voiceline Viewerhttps://deadlock.vlviewer.com/
Crazy how desperate for attention the furfag was.
>>538659093billy if valve wasn't shit
>win 6-7 games in a row by myself>rank doesnt move>lose 3 games in a row playing with my friends who are below me in rank>lose 2 ranksgood to know i cant play with friends without it tanking my elo
>>538659197I gave you nearly 15 minutes to make your thread.Don't like it?Get off your lazy ass next time.
The new gamemodes can't come soon enough, i hate this retarded fucking dota but shit modei hate getting poked out of lane by some retarded nigger heroi hate splitshittingi hate having to farm for 5 hours and then still getting shat onhonestly i hate this fucking gamei should just play dota
>>538659297Yeah you got your thread, nobody cares now. Back to deadlock discussion.
>>538659382You brought it up, fuccboi.On topic though: why can't I stop playing Victor?
They really need to make the spirit scaling on victor’s health regen do something. Early game it’s eh, but he’s already weak in lane. Lategame it serves no purpose. With 200 spirit, it should at least give something between 50-100 regen
How do you get better at 1v1 fights? Is there some general advice?
I don't understand what I am doing wrong with Pocket. Even if I win in lane and have a decent farm lead I don't feel like I am impacting the game at all.
>>538659867gank gank gank gank then spread aids in teamfight
objective gaming holy shit
>>538659867Your job is to jump in, press ult, see everyone counterspell it and die in the next 0.3 seconds
>7 losses in a rowHahaha I'm going insane lol
>>538660573>27 in a row a few months agoGet on my level, faggot.
This game will be improved tremendously when they add bans so I never have to see Niggerfernus and Niggerseven ever again.Oh wait, IceFraud will add Dota 2's "maybe" ban system and I'll still have to see their ugly nigger faces every game. Good joke.
>>538660953How the fuck are you still playing? Are you in the Seekr 0,5 now?
>>538659272why do you even care?
>>538659093>not a human bodBORINGcan people actually get billy right, it's a fucking guy with a goat head, it's not rocket science, stop drawing him as a furry
>>538661152I quit for like a month after the 27th loss.
>>538659093https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WkGDC3idX1E&list=RDWkGDC3idX1E&start_radio=1
>>538659867Then change character, i hate to play Pocket. Its a hero for rats.
>going against doorman in lane for the 5th game in a row
What if Calico looked like this?
>>538662207Understandable
>>538662478>Going against nigfernus in a lane for the 10th time in a row
Miku might be my new favorite hero
>>538663814how do you build her?
>>538663890Very carefully
>>538662926somehow prettier than the bald nigress we have now
>>538663890I just build for gun with monster rounds, titanic mag and tesla and shove waves
>all the gun characters play the EXACT same>all the Spirit characters play relatively the same>all the ooga booga grug heroes (Abrams, Victor) all play the same>there are zero unconventional heroes to pick No, Niggerman with portals is not interesting enough to change this verdict, most of your time is spent just being a generic Spirit nuker or a chain CC bot with Ult, cart and knockdownThis game's fucking boring me to the point I am dozing off in my seat.
>Have a rancid lose streak>But icefraug keeps peppering in games where I stomp to keep me playingI hate being a seeker scrub. I wish I could get better, but I feel like I have no avenue to grow when every game is a stomp.
Sometimes, I see an orange ouroboros sprite appear behind a hero. What does it mean?
You can tell DDK and ZP fucking despite this puckett nigga
From today onwards when i get angry im just gonna mute everyone and do minimum playing. Maybe even do a meme build for whats left of bad game.
>>538664594Fortitude activating.
>>538664412do we know if this game has EOMM yet? I just started playing and I’m n000000ticing a pattern like this forming. 1-2 games where my opponents are brainless chimps who just wanna ape teamfight every game and lose lane hard, followed immediately by the sweatiest niggas queuing the gayest duo combos in existence that never miss farm and will deny at least half my minion souls
>>538664689Good luck
>>538664887I don't know how matchmaking is supposed to work in this game, but I have the same problem. Absolutely ping ponging between noobs that I stomp and getting dumpstered by some Infernus. Can't wait for bans, I'll tell you that much.
>>538664623Why do they even bring him on? I don't think he even plays the game
>>538664887Please dont bring your schizophrenia here. Deadlock uses a simple ELO system. Brainless chimps are used to average out higher ranked players so the teams average matches your opponents average elo.
>>538663975I love bald nigger Calico I want to slap her head when she's giving me a blowie LOL!
>>538665236they brought him on as a hook for the people who are unfamiliar with the game I think
>randomly get seven>victor, mirage, dynamo on enemy teamdraft when draft when draft when draft when
>>538665419Hahaha
today I was finally able to pick victor but the other team had an amazing Grey Talon. Thankfully I killed the other team's warden so much he quit and we won. My victor was so strong that I was able to kille both talon and infernus on the yellow line near their base, resurrected and killed calico and billy. No one had shit like heal bane so I was pretty safe.It also dawned on me that lower tier players tend to focus too much on team fights instead of pushing lanes and making thoughtful plays. Our lady geist for some reason really insisted on trying to kill talon and died like 10 times to him., would have been great if she had used her fucking ult on bebpbop or something
>>538665412so it’s not functional and just goes the same way every other game does, got it. I can have bearsfan1964 and xXxN1GG3RK1773RxXx on his 500 hour haze both on the same team. Got it
>>538665161Seven and Paige are getting permanently banned if I’m given control of the bans
>>538664689How do you mute people ? I almost never get talkers, but when I dot hey're always annoying.
>>538665932for some reason this game has attracted the hots and league crowd that are just of the mind where you need to 25/7 unga bunga teamfight
>paige is my highest winrate hero>feels like I am literally doing nothing when I play herok
>don't really find any characters interesting or fun>except Calico, which is delightful to playExplain
>>538666439isn't her playstyle pretty unique right now
>>538666439you like pressing 124
>>538666494I dunno, I'm a trash player. I kind of use her as a hit and run ganker.
look at this niggerslows thrown at Nigfernus here:>slowing bullets 30%>cold front 60%>aura of suffering upgrade 30%speeds I have:>fleetfoot>surge of power>painbarrier upgradeAnd all this nigger has is basic ability, and he almost outruns me. I fucking hate how stupidly overpowered infernus is. Never fun to fight against and stupid low IQ players just hit 1 button and win fights. I also love my team fucking around as 3 man in base with an urn like it's the most important and only thing they need to do.
how do I make my shitty drifter build less shitty
>>538667078oh that bebop got you PISSED
>>538667078genuinely what the fuck is your team even doing lmao
>>538667078does infernus get lifesteal from flame dash? remove dat
Jewish toon with passive soul trickle, illusion of being on your team during which he cant be damaged, golem summon and his ultimate is dubbed Fairfax aid that causes bombs to randomly fall from the sky
>>538667351if he gets spirit lifesteal which most do. as much as league sucks they had the right idea making spell vamp really hard to get
>>538667080>only t4 greenseat your damn vegetables
Whenever anyone who doesn't play Sinclair gives their opinion about his moveset, they 100% of times say the most idiotic retarded nigger shit possible. It's clear to me this character is too complex for the average deadlock nigger.
SCARABS!CONSSUUUUUME THEEEEM*plip plip plip*
>>538667080get fortitude, lifestrike and cultist sacrifice
>>538666095Mina and Paige for me, these niggers better learn to pick a real hero next time
>doorman in game with furry nickname or some other obnoxious gay handle>rushes echo shard and does nothing but walker setups>they end 1/1/3 accomplishing nothingstop
>>538667924Well you see, his moveset provides him with some pretty reasonable all around movement, damage, and control. This flexibility allows you to adapt your playstyle to the different ultimates you might end up using.
>>538667078Turbocucked by Bebop, amazing
*Spews her load all over you and flies back to base until she's full again*
>>538668615even the better mina players play like pussies so I like to initiate to make her waste the ult so she can't insta gib objectives
>When I play Lash>I play like ass>When I get a Lash on my team>He's a fucking god flying around the battlefield stomping people's faces inI just want to be good on him...
>>538668546>broooo you dont get it, here is a door use that door, I thought that through broo, use that door bro its genius please bro Im smart
>>538668692I just prefer to rush phantom strike so I can fuck her up.
>>538668546>they
was this a good build?
>>538668578Yes. You get it. But it's frequent people say he's up for a redesign or a complete rework on his kit. Shitters be posting on oficial forums this character is bugged when it's all intentional, they are just fucking clueless of how it works.Your description is spot on.
>>538668765Bro, that's the dehumanizing "they" not the culture warrior version.
>>538668615>slowing hexEz
>>538668765esl retard
>>538668820Could add suppressor.Does escalating exposure amp self-damage from aura?
>>538668885Hard to tell, internet is deaf to nuance
>>538668421cumbrains will force literally the worst characters imaginable just so they can see their waifu move around on screen, mina has the added curse of being a goth chick so all of the brainwashed zoomers flock to her
So if you barrier/heal 25k but one of the opponents only did 20k damage, does that mean he pretty much got invalidated?
>>538668868they just need to making vexing bolt a bit easier to use and tone down scaling a bit to compensate, that's about it
>>538668615Mina used to be one of the hardest characters to master. After the buffs she's easy as shit. Now she procs all her bullshit pretty easily and it's safer than ever with the CD reduction. They needed to drag her skillfloor to the underground so coomers could have a chance of playing her instead of masturbating alone. Fuck them all.
>>538669190total mina player death. i dont play the character but everyone on my team always makes it my problem
>>538669137I hope whoever made a bunch of ''support'' paige builds gets hardware banned from every valve game. This and I've yet to see a single Mina who isn't a feeding fuck. Buffs don't matter when the average Mina player is the issue.
>>538669141I don't want them to touch bolt's execution. The high skill ceiling justifies the damage from a balance perspective. If bolts are trivial then it 100% needs to be nerfed. I don't want that. You either got the hands to hit them so you can deal 700 spirit damage, or you don't. Fuck noobs.
>>538668868They'll like him more when they add an animation for his escape that makes him jump in his hat
feel like ive played 10 games in a row where we lost from team comps alone, when the fuck are we getting picks
>>538668993I assume not since it also gives spirit resist and only applies de amp on enemies. just tested it on the playground
>seven winrate is 54.4>ivy winrate is 54.3UH OH IVY SHITTERS UHHHHH NERFS ARE COMING
S E V E NEVEN
>>538666194ESC and on the right u can click microphone icons.
>>538669408That'd be funny lol.I urge to see Sinclair being fully fleshed out like the last DLC characters. I wonder what his reloading animation will be. Maybe they can give him procedural animations for when redirecting bolt he moves his hand towards the direction you pointed the bolt to. Bunnies are currently placeholder as well.
>>538669350is this why every paige on my team goes support build? (i lose) and every paige on the enemy team goes full damage (i also lose)
>>538669390I think the real Sinclair issue is that he essentially has 3 ults and a powerful poke. Its the Terrorblade situation all over again>allow one skill to be strong and the rest of his kit might as well not matter since you can build around it>nerf all skills and suddenly he is underpoweredAnd then Sinclairs actual ult is very comp dependent so you add all complications stemming from this fact to the mix.
>>538669819yes, the playerbase is made of retards following only top rated builds. paige shits out damage whether spirit or gun. I don't know why they go double barrier when they can just KILL EVERYONE
>>538669819Niggers seriously bought into the ''muh girl/tranny support player'' meme when she is a braindead AOE nuker. As if we didn't have enough of those already, really the most pointless hero in the game.
>>538669478Run Ivy! The nerfbat is coming!
>>538669968She is really good with certain active items though, I just don't know why people always get divine barrier on her though. Vortex web and knockdown seem like much better uses of money on her since they combo with her 1 and 3 so well.
>>538669819>>538670079>>538669968False. Support Paige is how you win.
>>538670079retardo damage, good follow up cc, self peel, and people think this is a support because it’s a woman????
>>538669859Last patch they nerfed bolt and buffed assistant. They seem to aknowledge what you say by buffing other abilities rather than nerfing his strongest.I don't find many flaws to his ultimate, i guess every character 4 is useful to some degree. His worse pick is 100% haze but that's it, usually ultimates are one of the most useful skills with any character. I'd rather have this than a specific ultimate for Sinclair. Leads to more versatility and usefulness to the team since it allows you access to a bunch of overpowered abilities that 100% should'nt obtainable in any legal match. To me this is the most interesting character gameplay-wise ATM.
>>538669478that clearly means we must nerff shiv again, just to be sure
>>538670261sorry, I mis-typed, what I meant to say was. Support Paige is how you let the enemy team win
>>538668579Turbocucked by his shitty team*
>>538670537pretty sure people think it is a support because of the 2 being a shield and the 4 having a heal
>>538670690the shiv nerfs will continue until morale improves
>>538669478Meanwhile in Eternus
Hoy shit Sinclair with wraight's neon prime skelly is tough as hell.
>>538671032tight
>when you are literally the only one pushing objectives>meanwhile team is brooling and losing >and feeding a DrifterI will never climb ranks with people like this.
>>538670873yes yes, that’s all well and good, but the best way to support your team is by killing the enemy team. no damage to heal if there is no enemy
>>538670261Win the ''ruined the game for your team'' award
>>538669117Use some context next time.
>>538670698>>538671128No, I'm serious. There are more effective spirit nukers than Paige, but nobody is better than her at supporting. Support is her strongest role by far. Support Paige still builds spirit items and deal decent damage even without taking her team's farm. On the other hand spirit nuker Paige is greedy, hogs all the farm, only to be a generic subpar nuker that is already common in this game.
>>538671246yes so this goes right back to the original point of, permaban paige. just so my stupidass team doesn’t pick the cutesy waifu just to tingle their penises
>>538671001turns out that you need to do more than give a hero a free fleetfoot in order for it to be good
>>538671246most players are retarded and don't understand power and economy distributionthey'll pick shit characters like paige that have a low power ceiling, play a passive farming game, vacuum up all the space and resources, then rage when the enemy infernus washes them
>>538671656This. Anyone who unironically says "Paige is better as a carry" is outing themselves as people who can't carry and need to be carried by a freaking Paige.
>>538667818>>538668252what would I be giving up for these greens though
>>538671656when are the devs going to dumpster infernus
>>538669137i've been into gothic vampire chicks since before you even even sentient
>>538671001eternus ivys just suck, it's mostly stackers at that elo
>>538671001where the fuck are you getting that
give miku 3 stam
>>538672320Just buy superior stamina.
>send their Victor to brazil with door/cart>give their fed ass Wraith a room at the Baroness>win the fightI've finally found my hero. I know beyond a shadow of a doubt that Doorman is /myguy/.
>>538672382fuck you
>>538671894get rid of weighted rounds and sell backstabber when you're out of slots
>>538672464No, fuck you leatherman.
>>538672143this will not abscond you of your sins. I can respect appreciating an aesethtic or a vibe but if you’re forcing a shit pick in a team game just go play bots. Or play fighting games
>>538672320fuck no
>>538672586>shit pickshe's fine
>>538672551>>538672716fuck you both
>>538672732In your hands perhaps, but I’m assuming you’re not the average Mina
>>538672857and how do plan on fucking 2 niggas with only 2 stamina bars, fatass????
that's it, im just done playing until they add picks or draft or fucking something, this game is so aids when you lose at the fucking loading screen
>>538670260Vortex Web and Knockdown are better in most cases, yes. But if your team is being carried hard by a giga-farmed carry, Divine Barrier is insanely OP.
>>538672995you will regret that
>>538671114no bro, you don't understand, we must team fight at every single moment, when the other team is not visible on the map we should ask ourselves "where is the other team for a team fight?",
>>538673334hmmmmm maybe I should I try to farm the enemy jungle at 40 minutes when all towers are down and they have 4 rejuv? why not?
I love playing Deadlock with my boyfriend! he's a great partner in bed and in lane
>>538673492Me on the right.
>>538673420oh? 6 enemy heros are taking my patrons first life? heh, fools, urn is free now AND it's on the close side
>>538673492why isn't that outfit for abrams
>>538671625They literally took the free Fleetfoot away.
urn is such a shit objective. Win that is winning can... win harder, wow thanks valve!
>>538673619and she still has a 53% winrate in eternus and is currently top 3 right under seven and ginnis.HMMMM IVY PLAYERS MUST JUST BE SO SKILLED? ICEFROG WONT DARE NERF IVY AGAIN!
Wait the lizardman and gargoyle are female? They don't look female.
>>538673708I don't give a shit about Ivy, was just correcting the other guy.
>>538673758What the fuck do you think a female lizard and gargoyle look like?
>>538673690team* i was blinded with rage
>>538673690When you're behind, the submit spot moves closer to your base. In a way it could also work as a comeback mechanic.
post something you're ashamed of
>>538673758what, you're expecting tits?lizard is a recolored placeholder from another hero right now
>>538673839you just want gooners to post porn you sick freak
Cold Front and its consequences have been a disaster for build variety.
>>538674087*raises paw*I don't think cold front is that good on victor
>>538674087they're definitely going to overnerf it to the point where nobody builds it ever
>>538674136You might be a mentally retarded then, he's one of the few heroes who it isn't redundant to buy on
>>538673960One time, I played Infernus
>>538674087I have suggested removing it and just leaving arctic blast as a 6400 item several times now. honestly just remove them both.
>>538667078Your “T1 Aura of Suffering Slow” did not apply because you waited till the last second to activate it for where it will do 10 dps and slow him for a millisecond before he gets his 50% slow resistance diarrhea trailThe coon is overtuned but you had full hp most of the fight and should have let it ramp up. You probably wouldve killed him with that
>>538674221SHAME
>>538674210arctic blast is OK, but anyone with a brain is going to immediately move away from victor. unlike abrams or mo, he doesn't have a wall stun or a knock or even a yamato point n click to immediately combo with either. I much prefer slowing hex for screwing over single targets
>>538673758How many guys named Ivy do you know?
sevenhazenigfernusvictorsinclairany other heroes that the game would be better off without?
>>538673960still fun tho ding ding
>>538667078>>>You don't have enduring speed. There's also no way you're complaining about Infernus when Victor hard cucks him probably the hardest out of any hero in the game. Every time I played Victor enemy Inferni could not flame dash out of my aura's range because of how weak to slows it is
>>538674379holliday
>>538674379why did you post my top played
>>538673758ivy is very clearly female, specially because of her voicevyper is obviously female from her voice but her current model is dogshit and a placeholder
>>538674379drifter. I fucking hate his ult
>>538673334didn't read
>>538673960>Went to check my Abrams stats cause I thought they'd be real bad>17 games with 8 winsYou know what, not as bad as I thought
So wraith and miku are the only two who even consider building capacitor right? Also how come whenever I get up after taking a shit does a little bit of piss trickle out of my dick, no matter how many times I waggle my dick for excess pee it doesn't come out until I get up how do I stop this from happening?
>>538675104amerimutts are illiterate brown subhumans so that was to be expected
>>538674565wtf you talking about could not dash out of your aura? are you retarded? it's only a 30% slow faggot, he can easily dash the fuck out of your 8m aura range with 1 fucking dodge you retarded faggot
vindcta just killed charlie cuck on whatever his name was.
>>538675189Your body has limiters installed to prevent you from pissing into the air while you take a shit with morning wood t. My father works for Nintendo
>>538675189its good for haze, ivy, and vyper (lol) too you're just aging, eat more fruit
>>538675230yea idk what that guy is talking about infernus doesn't care about victor unless he has slowing hex/knockdown
>>538674379mo and krillviscouscalico
>>538673960I think it's because I stopped building Lifestrike
>>538674379AbramsVindictaIvy
dash infernus is so stupid and worthless but i can't stop smiling when i play it
>>538672307Its all matches since the most recent balance patch. Her win rate cratered after they nerfed Siphon because it was the main thing keeping gun ivy strong
>>538673960I'm initiate 1, shame is an alien concept.
>>538676825>siphon bullets kept ivy strong>not her melting objectives almost immediately or having the best rotation in the game after the second set of teleports were removeduh huh
>>538676521How do you build dash specificly?Isn't it better to just build hybrid spirit/gun?
>>538677132You might not be as bad as you think you are depending on your winrate, rank distribution is completely fucked atm and climbing is incredibly slow
>doorman ult the almost full health 9/1 enemy wraith (who is 12k above the next person) mid-teamfight so we can focus the shitter haze and lash>drifter gets on mic for the first time in the game and with his swarthy central european voice says "hey doorguy don't ult someone I'm about to kill next time okay?">"how about you don't feed her like a retard in lane?">later on in the match I watch as 3 orange icons move towards him while he mindlessly farms and makes no effort to leave the area to avoid the imminent gank>continue doing sinners and let him die so he malds on the mic for the next 2 minutes>ends the game 3/11 with 10k player damage and 0 obj damage (it was a 35 minute game)Why are drifter players like this?
>bad wave clear speed>bad harass>bad brooling potential before 15k soulsis wraith actually honest
>>538677570bwo he said initiate 1if he's played more than 10 hours he IS that bad
>>538677570that doesn't look fucked at allit SHOULD be a bell curve
>>538668002Name a more useless 1
>>538677570Thank you, but I am as bad as it gets. Think 10k player damage, double digits deaths per matches, no impact on teamfights, consistent only as the worst player out of 12. A proud /dlg/ representative.
if you duo with your wife is it called wedlock
>>538677952vyper's screwjab dagger
>>538659093I have a question, if Haze was summoned in her dream form, how the fuck is she gonna get a wish from the patron
>>538678095Is a slow, and on low enough cooldown for mercurial reload / magnum if needed.Scarabs is too long cooldown for that
>>538678093If you queue for 5 minutes and can't find a match it's called gridlock
>>538677242The numbers dont lie
getting smurfed on is about 8/10 on the gay scalei'd rate it a 10/10 but i feel like there might be something worse i haven't experienced yet
NERF VINDICTA SHE JUST FUCKING ONE TAPPED MY LASH
>>538678541another nerff to Shiv coming right up, as requested
>>538678463have you run into an aim botter holliday maxing crack shot?
>>538675597I'm only 26....
Why are people in these threads fixated on rank so much? Just keep playing and you'll end up at the rank your skill level warrants. People are like "Ohh I played 10 games and I'm not Diamond yet" like why does it matter to you that much?
>>538678241scarabs reduce targets resists and make mirage tankierIt's usually about a 200 hp swing on the target hit, 100 stolen hp at max upgrade, or more like 50 at basedagger does 100 hp on a shorter cooldown... the slow lasts only one second
>>538678390No way Ivy was crutching this hard on single item. You are oversimplifying things somehow.
>>538678541>whistles*
there are a lot of stackers now, is anyone as fun as bomb bebop? haven't played in a while
>>538678620no seriously my Lash was just sitting in lane and Vindicta came out of nowhere and literally one shot him through the neck.
>>538678686because the ranks are obviously not working properly due to the influx of new players, so matches are usually one sided by one team having semi-competent players and the other having player with almost zero hour on the game.
>>538678843>is anyone as fun as bebop?No, none of the stackers are as fun as Bebop. This round of stackers fucking sucks.
>click on soul orb>it doesn't register and i don't get the denyyoshi fix your shit
>>538678823GET THE FUCK DOWN FROM THERE>*Drops an anvil on you*
>>538678686Zoomoids are extremely performative please understand.
>>538678663damn unc....
>>538678943you need to wait till it glows
>>538678860Was your Lash down 40k souls by any chance
>>538678860I understand, another nerf to Vyper coming right up.
>>538678843debuff remover just rapes bombop. you're kinda forced to go gun or tank
>>538678686because one month of 60% winrate (even on the new hero) should not just move me from mid alchemist to mid arcanist onlyI want to be able to play non-late game hypercarry heroes
>enemy laners are mina and lashI hate it
Can't wait for the tourist nomoba shitters who type the whole game to stop playing already. Game's genuinely unplayable when the retards on your team have the minimap disabled, play on your side of the map while winning constantly and prolonging games you could have won 30 minutes ago
>>538679164Win rates aren't going to be an accurate indicator of skill with how wide the matchmaking is. Are you winning against people way below you? Not gonna climb very much.
>>538679134you can just put the bombs on yourself and stand near them
>>538679358are you really going to dickride this fuck ass system like matchmaking/mmr is not a slugfest
>>538679134Debuff Remover is the nothing burger when you can just LARP as a jihadist, the real issues that cuck Bebop are Spellbreaker and Ethereal Shift>jump into enemy team with bombs strapped to your chest>the actually important target just negates it with one of 2 said items>you die for free with zero precise timing needed
>>538679219Why did she do it?
>>538675429she didn't get any bonus souls because he's a soulless pig :((
>>538679670Reddit's 2 doors down.
>>538679219She's a witch
>>538679219this is FOUL, dawg...
>>538679048Nah he had cultist sacrifice and millions of souls
>>538679774lmao pearlclutching on 4chan. Over a zionist even.
>>538679850Guess he should've spent some of them
>>538679774yeah, you can go back anytime given you're well acquainted with the site.
>>538679012i do and it still doesn't recognize i'm clicking on it
>>538679869I assumed you were calling him a soulless pig for being right-wing at all. If your angle was him sucking off Israel, then that's my mistake friend. Carry on.
>>538680041implying there's a difference
>>538680041>Charlie defender is a pedophileit really does make you think
>>538680097There is actually. Being right-wing is a good thing. Being a shabbos goy is not.
>>538678390>under 200 matchesnot a strong sample size desu. ivy from archon to eternus has 4.4k matches with a "just under seven" winrate.
RAVENBROS???????
People blatantly fucking lie in this general about how good some heroes are and how supposedly balanced their shitter of choice is.
>>538680314were fucking back ruskies
>>538680324your average ivy shitter is not beyond lying
>>538674379i realy hate sinclair. he just does so much fucking damage. even if i get spirit shielding he just shoots his missiles again. you cant get close to him when that fucker sits on the bridge
>>538675230Flame dash you retard
>>538680314So Slork and Raven survived?
>>538680530>ivy out of no whereobsessed
>>538680617you're the fucking retard lying sack of shit who doesn't even play Victor, never has and you're making up shit like the faggot you are>30% will really do something to 20m/s
>>538680725>>538680725No, grey is the generic hero background, and that's an old pose from a different angle.Slork got voicelines for the new heroes but Raven may have been folded into priest.
Hopoo, Valve, where is my farmer lost in the big city hero? Possible abducted by aliens motif.Get off your butts and do something about it. I need to throw vegetables and secure my enemies in the Pen (tm) like the cattle they are.
>>538673960is this OK
>>538681961its average for that character
>>538681961highest WR Vyper player.
vyper is either useless or absolutely stomping, nothing in between
>>538681947would a farmer abducted by aliens want to fight and die for a talking orb that needs you for a ritual or just hitch a ride back home?
>>538667078It's extremely hard to tell for sure but it looks like infernus has 10k on you and you're mad that you almost solo'd him? without even using aura for most of the fight????You also have fucking frenzy and luike the other anon pointed out took way too long to activate aura which would give you the move speed you wanted to get frenzy buffs
>>538674087They won't change cold front and it will be a less useful item when the jungle update comes and makes cold front useless against half the camps spirit resist
>>538681947>farmer hero>uses a boomstick thats all i got
>>538681947Isn't there a character named Druid in the files?
Would a funneling strat with a teammate farming unsecured souls to suicide them to his teammate be possible? Are there heroes that can clear the jungle in a timely manner while being behind in farm?
>>538678942ty for the quick responseI hate that...I fucking love stacking heroes in mobas talon feels great rn besides how weak drone strike is in lane, but that's a good trade for a team wipe owl
>>538682861mcginnis comes to mind but she's dead weight without souls
>>538677623why is the nigger character played by niggers, a nigger? a mystery will we never know the answer to
>>538682861victor could focus entirely on his stink aura and pull it off
>>538673960I cannot wrap my head around denying as Doorman his bullets seem to bug out when I hit a orb or I'm placed against someone with a machingun like Ivy or Seven
>>538682861Ivy, but this sounds retarded because you'd be giving death gold to the enemies which would always be a net loss just to drop your bag for your teammate.
>>538663997Goo ball max
>>538682189Definitely to hitch a ride back home>>538682556>>538682645Druid might fit, but I imagine it's not what I'm thinking. I imagine he could have a kit that's alien in nature, borrowed or given to by his captors. Half of it farmer abilities, other half tech gadgets.
Our shiv sucked major balls and farmed the whole game, many such cases. I feel bad for mina
What is actually the general lore of Deadlock? What the fuck is going on?
>>538683070victor would have to throw away his ult to donate his souls to the carry so that's definitely a non-starter
>>538677623mostly retards play noobstomp heroesif it's a drifter, haze or vindicta it's going to be a genuine 80 iq retard behind the wheel 90% of thetime
is it intentional that Billy stops shooting when he jumps? feels like a weird bug. all the other characters ive tested havent done it.
>>538683189>accuse him of farming all game >he has top assists>he's not even that richa LIKELY story
>>538683329you also can't parry during the jump start up frames, it says "can't parry, busy"it's fucking retarded how much jumping fucks you in this game.
>>538683268the strategy is going to result in a hero being dead half of the time anyway, since last patch added a +10 seconds to respawn timers that have no assists
>>538683439>last patch added a +10 seconds to respawn timers that have no assistsdamn
>>538683329I think it's the new animation system vs the old one, only a handful of heroes are using AG2 right now and it has minor gameplay differences because of how it handles animation blending.
>>538663997>pedotroon>is a retard
>>538663997if I get an odd number at the end of my post this guy's a riot games employee trying to downplay the game that's gonna push their shit into the dirt
>>538683254The supernatural always existed in the world of Deadlock, but only when an eclipse triggered an event known as the Maelstrom near the end of the 19th century, which opened Astral Gates across the Earth, did the world at large accept it wasn't just myth.Now, 50 years later, two Patrons, the Amber Hand and the Sapphire Flame, are trying to enter this plane, promising to fulfill the wish of anyone that helps them by completing the ritual. The ritual includes two teams fighting each other in a battle in the streets of the Cursed Apple, trying to prevent the other team from summoning their patron.
>>538683707Fake and gay.
Nice game
>>538683373Yeah he still showed up but super late, if he was our vanguard and executed people earlier we probably would have won.
>>538683876close enoughchad walk miku ginnis
>>538683634
muting the stream every time puckett talks
>it's a 1-6 victor and 1-8 drifter on your team episode
>>538684134We're making space for you not our fault you can't carry, biiiiiitch
I'm gonna try grey talon for the first time today. Any tips?
>>538684358You die if anyone gets close to you
>>538684358Birdmaxxing is fun but very suboptimal.Charged shotmaxxing is boring but very powerful.Pick your poison.
>>538684358get surge of power and be good at aiming your 1 otherwise youre gonna get RAPED and not in a good way
>>538684358If you stay on the ground, you're dead
What deadlock hero would charlie kirk play, he got 1 shot by vindicta ult so probably a squishy one
>>538683707>trying to downplay the game that's gonna push their shit into the dirtyes anon, Riot is sending shills to this dead general to kill this massively successful game.
Is building Gun and building around Gray Talon's multi-shot jump thing any good? I need something other than BRRT McGinnis, starting to get a bit bored.
>>538683881what even is shivs role in a team fight? i honestly dont knowt. 300 hours ON SHIV
>>538683747Gotcha, so a "the game is canon" sort of setting.
i love this little nigga like you wouldn't believe
>>538684629Charlie Kirk would play Drifter because he loved to ambush lone libtards with facts and logic
>>538684670knife build waits it out and gets escalating exposuregreen punchy man build runs in and causes chaosgun guy plays close behind cover and tries to pick off execute asap then retreatsHaven't played shiv since a year ago though, didnt like how they gutted his execution range he feels too hit or miss without that tool
>>538684629Gray Talon, he stayed on the ground and is now dead because of it
>>538684670>>538684864forgot my pic for shiv bro
Buy debuff resistBuy Blood Tribute (on Shiv)>Dummy 1No resist - 2.77 sec>Shiv 1Debuff resist (30% resist) - 1.88 sec>Shiv 3Blood tribute only (50% debuff resist) - 1.38 sec>Shiv 3Debuff remover + Blood trib + spell breaker (idk, like 65-70% debuff resist? doesn't tell you the actual math with trib active) - .78 secSeriously it cannot be understated how good 50% debuff resist is. I've done some testing and UNFORTUNENTLY debuff resist ONLY affects duration of abilities but seriously it can't be understated how cutting ANY debuff timer in HALF really fucks over so many characters/builds. This will add a SHOCKING amount of survivability i'm telling you guys. Make an infernus' superior duration completely ineffective vs you.Blood tribute works with shivs deferred damage so in reality shiv is only draining 24 health per second with bloodletting t2 and the deferred damage is partially counteracted by your regen and obviously bloodlettings active. Through in radiant regen to give you stronger regen in a fight + healing you when you use actives (including blood letting itself). Very underrated
>>538684658How's Riots Deadlock clone coming along?
>>538684658damn.... its still alive unlike riot forge LMAO
Calikino.
>>538684658171k peak for a unreleased half finished half baked game is great numbers man what are you on about?
>>538685318Been learning her today, she's really fun but I still have a lot of limit testing to do kek
>>538675429A fat dysgenic boomer did it so it was actually gun dynamo.
>>538663997Are you new to MOBAs? Most carries build the same, you pick them for their toolkit / the situation you see. Same as supports, they build mostly the same. Its about cahracter toolkit and personal skill and growth, you fucking cretin.
>>538685846The issue is their kits/gameplay being same-y as hell, idiot.
>>538685048Infernus test>trib - 5 ticks = 121 dmg (trib adds like 10% spirit resist)>debuff - 7 ticks = 185 dmg>nothing - 10 ticks = 269 dmgand this is just from Infernus with no spirit investment beyond duration and max level. With real spirit investment, EVERY tick matters. Especially very late game when he picks up Escalating Exposure to make every additional tick hurt more and more>But you're not counting the damage from blood tribute!!!If blood tribute was activated immediately upon getting hit with afterburn, you would take roughly 64~ health. Add that to do the total damage from afterburn and it's equal to debuff remover but again this is an infernus without serious spirit investment or other damage amps, the 64 health trade will save you a lot more damage later into the game
>three british Drifters today with absolutely 0 contribution but just talking shit in chatwhere do these retards get their ego
>>538685946Debuff resist does nothing against Infernus since 99.9% of his damage comes from a debuff that constantly reapplies itselfs on a giant AoE floor. Most debuffs that actually hurt in this game are ground based giant AoE's that reapply themselves.
>>538685894But they aren't? Read a tooltip once in your life.>>538685968You say British but I'm guessing from what you said they were infact, English. Yes the English are British too, but try not to lump 3 other countries into this, please?
The teammates matchmaking puts me with. Yes we lost.
>>538686171Yeah, those, whatever
>>538686235half the mcginnis players i see do the same shit, despite both of them having a decent gun
>>538686235I've seen worse, there are at least 2 debuffs here.
>>538686235>baseballgolfps2lmao
>>538685301>How's Riots Deadlock clone coming along?Why would they steal a failed concept?
>Want to be a hypermobile Drifting™ between lanes, terrorizing any soul who dares to approach any camp>Ennemy team brool 24/7 so i'm just forced to be a lane janny or a bruiser at bestIt sucks man
>>538677771They reset the rankings at some point during the year for accounts that didn't play for some months but in their great wisdom there's no placement games for them so Initiate I is now an absolute shitfest with an insane skill range.
>>538686235spirit ivy is good that build is just assthis is how you make
>>538673960my winrate is positive only on seven
How come some people after game screen shows rank? mine doesn't
>>538687398you have to enable it in the settings
HEY DYNAMO PRESS 4WHEN IM DIVING AS VICTOR AND I HAVE ULT JSUT FUCKING WALK IN PRESS 4 EASY LANEfucking retards everywhere
>>538686115just jump lolAlso blood tribute gives you a lot of base movement speed so it's effective even against that as far as trying to walk out of it
>>538687097does mystic slow add more slow to her kudzu?
>>538686768stole autochess and that died within the year
>>538681961Ur doin great sweetie
>>538687846it stacks but is diminishing
>>538685529>the game dying twice in alpha is actually a good thingthere are 3.5 million people who have access to deadlock right now, 1% of them play the game>>538687932That was Valve and Underlords, lmao
The black wοman of Valve unοriginality.These are TWΟ different characters.
>>538687586>just jump lolretarded opinion discarded didn't read the rest
>>538688272>there are 3.5 million people who have access to deadlock right now, 1% of them play the gameok?
>>538687846no it reduces your move speed by 50%
what exactly do you do laning as drifter vs characters with big spirit nukes? your guns near melee range means that you instantly give up souls if you don't stand 2 miles behind the fight or eat 30%>stop pushing the lane upeven when I literally tell my partner to do this they still don't
>>538688610I hope the furfags win and calico gets turned into a cat woman
I have no way to prove it, but i know one of the top guy in Valve have a thing for black chicks, dating back to HL1.
>>538688272there are 8 billion people with access to league of legends. Less than 0.2% of them play.
>>538690050i wanted to play non-RTS dota arcade modes so bad but they were all perpetually dead or brokendeadlock was made for me
>>538690050one day modders will figure out how to port dota characters to deadlockI live for that day
all nigger doorman players will burn in hell
hey. USE YOUR GUN. if they're a drifter on the bridge. SHOOT HIM OFF. SHOOT HIM FUCKING RETARD SHOOT HIM
I want a hero with an M1 Garand...
>>538688726But you did read it numbnuts :)
>>538690326theyre already been added https://youtu.be/VkBzKVM_BeQ
GEE WELL IT LOOKS LIKE A TEAM FULL OF ALL CARRIES CAN WORK WHEN ALL OF YOUR TEAMMATES WITH CC (Lash, M&K, Seven, Kelvin) DO ABSOLUTELY NOTHING OF VALUE!!!!!!!! COOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>538674379victor is the only one i think sucks and shouldn't be in the gameill be shocked if they can find a good balance for himhe'll always be overtuned or undertuned
>>538684629>likes gun builds>squishy>glowsHaze
>>538687489which one is victor?
>>538688610Why is Wraith never included in this ritual post? Very rude.
>>538690214I genuinely cant wait for the community map scene for this game
>>538674379Bepop.Give hook to a new character, rest of his kit is unsalvageable. He's either completly awful, walking debuff remover tax or miserable ult-bot
Someone please point me to a youtube channel that's worth watching to learn how to play this game properly. I've played thousands of hours in dota 2 and shooters, but I'm still struggling since a lot of mechanics are map/hero dependent. I was playing mainly pocket last year, and came back for the new heros and been spamming victor.
>>538692481This but unironically. Either put hook on somebody else or make his bomb a thrown projectile. It's so worthless in it's current state cause even if you just strap bombs to yourself and leap in, people can just buy Spellbreaker or Ethereal Shift and fuck you over with little to no timing needed.
>>538692481bebop is fine but i agree his hook is kind of wasted on him, they could add it to another person as well
>>538692481Bebop can just self bomb or ally bomb anyway. Overblown issue
>accidentally double tap my drifter blink onto an ulting dynamo
>>538667078bro.... your slowing hex.....
ava is cute
>named victor>doesn't win the gamewhy are they like this
>>538667078yeah I don't get what this guy is complaining about you almost killed him and caught up to him after he used MULTIPLE flame dashes where as half the cast have uncounterable super duper blinks and mobility slides that could have escaped you even easier. Very strange thing to complain about but the clip is pretty infuriating so I'll give you that lol
>>538694174if only she was a normal cat...
>>538667078dude you cannot gank infernus without silence or slowing hex or knockdown etc
>>538694174
is seven overpowered?
>>538667078you see dat shit? hehehe...
>>538667080you need spirit items he is a spirit/gun hybrid
>>538680314What are those spell icons?
is it just me or is drifter like one of the worst laners in the game?every single time i get this retard as my lane partner he does nothing.
>>538694803>shotgun hero with zero movement abilities aside from one that forces you to engage>low damage until he gets stacksYea he's bad in lane.
>>538677952drifter rend
>>538677952Calico's bombs before T3
>>538694803sort ofdrifter attracts a lot of overly aggresive tards who end up feedingbut he also doesn't have a free kill ult button or any cc, so early fights can be problematic depending on lane comp
>>538694803he's alright if they wave isnt being pushed into his tower because he can do some solid trading from his current % hp damage
>4 minute queue for a game>guy dcs at start >5 minutes for him to finally abandon>4 minute queue for a game
>>538690050so that's why they added stamina system
>>538693301Since you guys are gonna be so shy about sharing info I'll just watch metro's guides
>>538695398ANON NO
>>538694046>No, situation isn't bad, it's actually worse!The fact that he's a Spellbreaker tax instead is not the point you were looking for
How do I make Victor do anything?
>>538695613First time playing an online game with hooks, huh?
just had a game where someone ran it down for 35 minutes after getting ganked once at 4 minutes (because our team took the enemy's guardian and they rotated to a different lane)
>>538696554No, hook is only part of Bepop that is alright.It's him strapping nuclear bombs onto you, candles and himself from the start that is the problem.The uppercut is clunky and stupid and ult is completly detached from everything else.People complain about Mirage, but his kit is consistent compared to Bepop's.
>>538696590had some retard like that as well, he just farmed all game after losing his lane, game lasted 30 mins regardless of him afk in the jungle
I know I'm not exactly a crackshot, but what am I missing with this girl? Feels like even my ult is tickling them, I'm a just flying pylon
>>538684665Nevermind, don't fucking do this. This shit sucks worse than Gun McGinnis. You just get hosed down out of the air by literally everything in existence and can't beat anyone 1v1 unless they're insanely behind and terminally retarded to the point they can't shoot a practically stationary airborne target. There's no reason to run this over just picking some full auto BRRT gun character and building Split Shot.
>>538697191She's the worst character in the game.You're a brick on your team because Icefrog nerfed her to shit.
>>538695398do you seriously need a guide on how to play victor?you just walk in when you're strong with your aura turned on.
>mina ults super high into the air>doorman walljumps up to her to put her in the dungeon>be mo and krill>double jump up to where she comes out and combo her as she comes outlollmao
>>538697337you can alt-cast rain of arrows to float just above the ground instead of really high up, which makes it slightly more viable for damage
>>538693301>kill troopers>don't die>kill guardians>don't die>kill walkers>don't die>kill mid boss>don't die>kill guardians>don't die>kill shrines>don't die>drop patron>don't die>kill patron>winthere's one map so how are mechanics map dependent?what makes mechanics different on one hero to another? having different abilities does not change the kill their ancient first goal of the game.
>>538697819>>don't diespotted the k/d farmer who never leaves his side of the map
>>538697819the pussy dealock player manual.tiff
>>538697191She is nerfed into abyss. Fucking Drifter has longer damage falloff start range and shorter damage falloff end range.
i haven't played this game in close to a year and picked it up again a few days ago does mina's earlygame suck ass or did i just completely forget how to lane efficiently
>>538697819not dying in deadlock is actually fairly easy. It is much more difficult to not die while also generating value. Most value in this game requires some level of risk acceptance (unless you're a carry or a support)
>>538698428you realize drifter's bullets just fucking despawn after a bit, right? his range is awful.
>>538699313he also has the unique mechanic where if any of his slash connects with the target it deals full damage, and if any of them are touching the head hitbox it counts as a headshot
>>538697727You're still gonna get hosed down and lose cause Grey Talon can't out DPS anybody. Grey Talon can barely fucking move during his 2 and just gets melted for not being able to move at full speed to dodge shots. You will absolutely land all your shots but still get fucked by anyone that isn't a spell-spammer character or a support cause everything else just hoses you down like a dog cause you can barely fucking move and that extra +30% Lifesteal won't help.
am i the only one who way prefers the old lady geist design/model? the new one looks like a weird mix between old and young and her bottom half is fat. old one looked much more milfy
Yamato is just a better drifter
>>538700578she's not supposed to be milfy, she kills people to maintain her eternal youthi liked the old arm better though, new one isn't ghastly enough. also miss the leg window on the dress
>>538700767yea i know her lore but this new design isn't what i'd call youth either. i'd rather they stick with a face that looks like it's early 30s or something rather than a weird mix between teenager and 50. it'd make more sense for her to be in her 30s anyway given what high society is like
>>538699749-40% headshot crit tho
man i really need to learn what all the items do so i stop relying on dogshit public builds
>>538697191i build her for utility with double stake alch fire and just ult when they're below 50% for big damage
Billy is just a better Abrams
Abrams is like Billy but not gay
>>538699313Doesn't mean it makes sense for a sniper who flies holding a pea shooter at 20m.
Let me put just 3 new characters already. They are no longer new characters.
>>538701023You WILL buy the skins. You WILL be happy.
>>538701616what makes billy really much better is his gun. other than that, abrams power-spikes into mid-game pretty well. what billy really has over abrams is chain gang, it's just a fucking strong ult with the right comp
>>538702182It's wild just how dogshit Abrams' gun is during laningLater in the game when you can get the jump on people and have the items to keep up, it's damn strong sureBut in lane it's effectively a party popperI'd gladly replace its M2 zoom with a long range slug alt fire
>Ground pound Seven into the floor when he's ulting>He clips through the floor and we can't shoot him, but he can shoot usThanks Volvo
>>538697034Skill diff
>>538660403This is why this game is shit. If its for faggots that dont want to actually dm'ing against people, whats the point of playing a pvp game? Play chess if your so "good at objectives" and get you wont.
>>538703303>whats the point of playing a pvp game?MOBAs are the genre you play when you suck ass at everything else
>>538703303so clicking on a building is like playing a chess game for brooltards, interesting...
its gassy
>>538703303kills mean nothingthrone means everything
>>538703303While I dont like splitpushing, strategy is what keeps games fresh. Without it the game would get very repetitive.
>"well I guess a quick Deadlock match wouldn't hurt">more than hour>billy and holliday know how to play and pressure me and Ivy, who is apparently new>some how we manage to hold the line for so long paradox actually quit and we wonI finally got a team that tried working together even if most of us sucked. We also had a funny little moment where we were able to kill the mid boss, invade their base but the rest of the team forgot they had rejuvenator and just fucked off as soon as the enemy respawned. Doorman was the goat because every time billy ulted he used his ult to fuck with himThis game is so fun when shit works out.
every single character should have an alternate fire
It's funny that dlg retards loves and worship ratting/splitpushing for objectives yet seethes at powerfarming jungle despite both being very low interaction or skill.
>Victor and Seven both don't "come online" until 30k souls >both basically turn into raid bosses at that point>Seven is considered OP>Victor is considered badWhat gives?
>bebop bomb
>>538703846pushing objectives makes them leave the jungle, think about it locktard
>>538703846i come from heroes of the storm so naturally i am a splitpusher at heart
>>538703846>ratting/splitpushingwins you the game >powerfarming jungledoes not win you the game
>go 7-1 as drifter>lose>go 2-14 as drifter>winHOW THE FUCK DOES THIS KEEP HAPPENING
And they say Doorman can't carry
Why is /dlg/ full of retarded takes? Imagine someone says "I don't wanna plant c4 in CS" or "Pushing payload is boring in TF2".
Holy shit, I finally figured it out...Victor isn't a tank like M+K or Abrams...He's not actually even a tank at all until the 30+ minute mark.He's a farm-bot like Seven or Haze...
Seriously, don't do this shit.>super present in teamfights>landing my shots just fine>but too fucking slow to move with the fight, too slow to chase anybody down to finish the kills off, too slow to avoid all the bullet hose gun characters and you just get melted for being present at all and can't directly out-DPS any of said full auto BRRT characters head-on>still can't break free of the pack damage-wise at allWhy are both the sniper archetype heroes such useless dogshit? >build Vindicta with gun items>if you can aim well enough to pull this off you'd get infinitely more value on literally any other gun character including Gun McGinnis>her "meta build" is just being a fucking tether-bot that can't actually hurt anyone with said tether or her crow>Grey Talon's useless cause sentient beings don't just stand around waiting to eat his arrows and will just buy Spellbreaker/Spirit Resilience to completely shaft him anyway and he doesn't just instantly explode a 20 meter radius with one button on a sub-10 second cooldown so there's no reason to pick him over shit like Geist>and his gun build just gets hosed down by every full auto character in the game while he's floating aroundGuess I'm quitting Deadlock again until they release more heroes cause there's literally nothing to break up the monotony with and I'm bored already as a result. Old heroes are still bland and same-y. New heroes are simply uninspired cookie cutter slop I've seen in a bunch of past MOBAs already. See you fags next time.
>>538704208they enjoy sitting in the "jungle" minute 20 for 10 fucking minutes thinking at the 30 minute mark is now okay to push lanes :)no they dont push lanes while farming jungle, they stay behind souls hitting jungle while waves die and souls go to the void
>actually it's a MOBA so it's meant to be dogshit
>>538704286he isn'tyou're supposed to get into skirmishes with him in mid game because of aura slow + ult. don't afk farm, help your team whenever you can
>>538703918Wrong, retard. The 100% answer to Bebop with little to no fine timing involved so you can't ever fuck it up-- even when he does the most obscure Majestic Leap approaches humanly possible-- is Spellbreaker or Ethereal Shift.
>people put 3 ability points into Aura of Suffering>increasing it's dps>INCREASING IT'S DPS (ALSO TO SELF)>zero spirit resisitance equipedlmaoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
>>538704378>help your team>with an aura that doesn't work yet because it has the range of a light melee, a 2 that can't properly keep you alive yet, and an ult that requires you to dieNo.
>>538704504i don't think you understand a single thing about victor, actuallyenjoy your 45% winrate i guess
>>538704476sounds like you have to spend 3.2k more because you are too shit at parrying to methere's literally no reason to buy spellbreaker if you can press F, except playing against paradox cuz it's impossible to parry her 3 realistically
>>538704476>fuck it upbro parrying is so easy. parrying garbage like singularities, guided owls, combustion, and killing blow makes people seethe
>>538704585I've won the last 5 games with him now that I've swapped to farmbotting the first 30 minutes of the game.
>abrams charge stun isnt a free heavy>abrams ult isnt a free heavyLiterally why would I play him over Billy?
is arctic blast even any good? i swear this item feels useless
>yeah chuddy, ratting/splitpushing wins games>meanwhile, at midboss:"I AM THE COSMOS"*glass shatter sound from a stock sound library x3*Sorry trannies, but we're in a teamfightBVLL meta. At least steal some camps instead of hardpushing like a tard if you're not gonna show up for the most important fight of the game.
>>538704754Infernal Resilience is always underestimated
>>538704737i'm sure you have, anon. i'm sure you have
>>538704754>>abrams charge stun isnt a free heavyit is THOUGH>>abrams ult isnt a free heavyit is THOUGH
>>538704754stun on demand. while billy can push them forward and up, abrams can travel with them further out of position for a free kill at times. ofc, abrams is a real tank and billy isn't, so he can survive abuse and win games because dumb players waste everything on him
>>538704618>>538704694Neither of you are on that shit where you land the parry every time when it actually matters. The other people reading your posts aren't either and shouldn't take your advice when there are guaranteed options that take zero effort and zero real timing to counter Bebop properly with.
>>538704784its my doorman and lash must buy
*runs past huge wave at our walker to chase an enemy that has superior mobility*clean it up lane janny
>>538704959i feel like just staying on cold front and selling it late game when you need space is 10x better
>>538704913i can parry blind folded with the idiot going for whiff heavy, get good
>>538704913>beeping gets faster>hit f>parry itwow that was really difficult man you're right. i also can't imagine an apple in my head just like you
>>538704959>lash must buy in what fucking world?
>>538705030>angry wojak paige.png
Watched funny bebop streamer buying veil walker and just constantly dipping into veil, walking up to lane opponents, bombing, then running away, repeating over and over. Looked very fun, gotta get good at self bombing
>int into every fight possible>splitpushtranny spamming retreat over and overis there a better feeling broolCHADS
billy is literally me with a goat head mask on
will Deadlock be the first Valve game to not feature the legacy Half-Life theme when launching the game? even DotA 2 has it.https://youtu.be/DdcdeS9kzFohttps://youtu.be/Xwqw7O0IU-0https://youtu.be/iq4xGdT0C00
>>538705361McGinnis has a red valve on her backback
>>538704208>both of thoseinvolve fighting other players>shooting towersinvolves left clicking at a glorified wall while you hide behind creeps so you take no damage
>>538705923>enemy has no players to defend towers
people really are just completely allergic to exerting the bare minimum level of map pressure by pushing creep waves up
>>538705361Does Underlords have it?
>>538706051exactly, fighting the enemy over the objective is fun, giving the objective itself a lifebar does nothing except make the game take 20 more minutes to finish. imagine if it took the entire team 5 straight minutes to plant C4, that's deadlock.
>>538704815Damn, I love getting poked for 200 damage in lane and only getting*checks notes*26 health back after 20 seconds of hiding
>female samurai>female sheriff>female mechanic>female assassin>female sniper>female mob
>>538706242>He doesn't know planting and defusing c4 takes time and you need to play c4 for 20 rounds a match.
>>538706143nobody played it so nobody knows.
people really are just completely allergic to taking the 85% winrate objective at 10 minutes.
>>538706242>imagine if it took the entire team 5 straight minutes to push payload, that's tf2
this item has a hidden stat where it makes the game 55% more fun to play
>>538703303overwatch player opinion. war is strategy, peabrain. think bigger.
>>538706368Based and all sexoHomos would never understand
>>538688272desire it to fail all you want, the steamcharts for an unmarketed closed beta will never provide you the definitive data you need to convince anyone (or even yourself) that the game has no potential for success
>>538707003we don't even know what the samurai looks like
>>538707138if the reception to mina and paige was any indication she'll be following that trend
>>538707183>chun-li thigh exposurehnnngggg
>>538706772Genuinely thoughThe "top tier" builds that ignore fucking movespeed are absolute cancer to play
>>538707120>wait for the big marketing campaignanon valve hasn't marketed a game since portal
Am I failing to remember how trigonometry works or should abrams not be being hit here if it's 18m reach?
>>538707415I suppose you could call the international's big prize at the time was an advertisement for dota2 It really brought a lot of eyes to the game
holy fucking shit guys someone just shot john hathorne turn on the scrying orb it doesn't matter which channel
What are the odds we're getting an official reveal trailer of Deadlock at The Game Awards?
they nerfed the stakebot playstyle and I now have to actually play the game...
>>538707770just another djinn falseflag
>>538707770they're saying the shooter had long range and headhunter
>>538707770They're gonna have to remove that Vindicta line about shooting Hathorne in a college campus
>>538708114it's a perfectly good plotline but they're probably strongly considering it lol
When will we get a singing hero?
>>538708471I believe in Cadence/Succubus supremacy
>>538708471wait for cadence
>>538708015Highly unlikely.Any rumours about valve revealing something at these industry shows are usually started and spread by the host themselves to attract attention to their show.
>>538708351Nah it's kinda cringe when your character keeps talking about a literally who. Reducing it to 1 or 2 sentence is better.
>>538708796it's almost certainly going to be the plot of her VN, what she decides to do about Hathorne
I hate every single person who plays this game, which 3 heroes should I learn to cause maximum seethe?
So now that the dust is settled, beta ETA predictions?
>>538708870mo n krilldoormanviscous
>>538708837I was thinking about this would be kino of the VN had a story for each hero, and at some point in the story they reach the turning point for wanting the patron's help, then you have to win a game of deadlock as that character to progress in the VN, and then you get to see what happens after that character gets their wish
>>538708961that is probably exactly what the plan is
>>538708837They should unlock those voice lines only after completing VN.
Some of you fags take way too long to exit the baronessThe fuck are you doing in there?Ordering ubereats?
>>538709156Sometimes nature calls brother
>>538709156Prepping my Warden ult to nuke you
>>538709280But i ulted you exactly because you had ulted
>>538709156I mashed counterspell while you sent me in, so I didn't get the "exit the baroness" debuffI will take no damage from it, but I'm stuck for the full duration
>>538709156Quick piss break
You know its kind of depressing to think about how i'm very likely higher rank than 80% of the people that post here when i'm emissary 6
>sit in the back spamming barriers and heals as Paige>nobody bought antiheal>35k healingThey must've been seething
>>538709156They're offering a complimentary continental breakfastI'm EATING some complimentary continental breakfast
Viscous if he was female
>>538709156Timing my cube.
>>538706897funny enough i bet OW players feel the exact same about val/CS players
>up against Infernus Paige MoKrill>Our retard Abrams and Haze feed the Paige Infernus lane>Our retard Billy and Seven feed the Warden and MoKrill lane>Somehow hold against Mina and Viper>Their Warden disconnects>We actually have a shot>Push their towers and kill both shrines>They still keep wiping us in team fights because Abrams is a retard and Haze is probably an inbred>We still have all our Walkers at least>Their Warden reconnects>They get mid boss>They team wipe us again>They push all lanes>Kill our walkers>Then our shrines>Then our patron>Abrams ends the game 6/11/1, Haze 1/11/4, Billy 0/13/5, Seven 08/7I don't know what pisses me off more the overpowered nigger heroes on the enemy team or the retard faggots on my team that fed them
>>538709156Atomizing at the last split second.
>>538709841We need a slime hero who actually slimes...
We need a clown hero with a very annoying kit
Thank you for sating my curiosity.
We need this embodiment of sex yesterday
>>538706486which is?if your team is losing fighting for urn is fucking stupid
>>538710430already in game
>>538709156I ONLY HAVE TWO DASHES OKAY AND I DASHED AWAY FROM THE BELL SO NOW I CAN'T DASH-JUMP (i'd mess up the timing anyways)
The tiniest loss streak gives you the most heavy handed rank drop, my god. Had a fucking 6 game win streak and went up one rank, lost 7 games in a row and went down FOUR RANKS WHAT THE FUCK
>paige ivy vs infernus minaThat was not a fun lane
Miragebros... Are we trying to hide our baldness?
>>538711601suppressor or spirit shielding
>>538712026Withwhat farm?
>>538711273That's not a clown + his kits not annoying enough. I want shaco and old techies.
Jesus fucking christ Doorman is so much motherfucking funNothing like witnessing an enemy Wraith teleport away at low HP and walking through a door just to punch her in the faceThis hero lets you play with fucking looney-tunes logic, its amazing
>team mate says ez after winning>enemy mo and krill says "you didn't do anything what do you mean ez"I fucking hate mo and krill they're so fucking annoying this dude played super aggressive the whole game
>>538706130sometimes your only hope is that there is an equal amount of retards on the enemy team that only wants to brool on mid so you can push safely in other lanes
>>538709156>get put into baroness hotel>feels like 2 seconds>put someone into the baroness hotel>feels like 10 seconds
>>538696463You get frenzyIt is actually crazy how good it is on him, better than any spirit vomit item you could get unironically
>>538704378the other anon is rightIf you want to do skirmishes, you might as well play abrams with real tankiness and cc. His 3 midgame will literally kill you faster than the enemy, and his health is at the level of seven. He does not even get real tank stats
>>538712216no
>>538696463What do you mean? Get spirit resist so you don't die to your aura, then stack it and items that make your aura do more damage. Max the 1 for the insane heal, but put at least 1 point in the aura for the slow.Also don't forget to buy Berzerker, shit's broken on him.
>>538712921enjoy your 45% winrate
Victor is a Drain Tank. As long as you don't miss your pain battery you should never die. Miss one and you're done though.
>>538712921I don't think you or that other anon understand just how powerful a free revive is in any sort of small fight.
>>538713007it’s 59% thougheverbeit (52W 36L)
my team after i go 0-4 in lanehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5EzuAl71myw
Gun Kelvin might be better but I think BEEEEMER Kelvin is the funnest still.
ice path 3rd upgrade has to be up there with worst upgrades in the game right
>>538709156Stealing all the complimentary soaps, shampoos, towels, gideon bible
so does mina ult not do more damage to a stack of enemies vs just nuking 1 person?
I feel like at low ranks having a mole man on the enemy team is auto win. Nobody is interrupting his ult and he just instakills anyone he grabs giving their team so much map control
>>538714529yeah it's pretty shit
>>538714186beam kelvin is absolute cancer to play against
>>538708870i made a wraith ragequit by stunlocking him to death with viscous ball
which guy does the most damage? anytime i play this videogame my gun does no damage to the bad guy, but the bad guy melts me in a 1 milimeter secondalso is there pornography of the vampire girl character? thank you, and god bless
>>538717078The uninstall wizard.
>How interesting or fun is this item?>Shadow Weave>[1] [2] [3] [4] [5]Who would you use it on?
>>538717078Infernus probably
>>538717627Wraith, drifter, infernus18 seconds of stealth is a LOT
>>538668820Swap out Leech for Infuser; you're doing way more spirit damage than gun damage in this build.
>>538696463you build gun victor, never ever use your aura except to farm, and rat lanes until you winHad a game where I just pushed a side lane all game, got through their t3s and killed the shrines while they were busy defending blue walker from my team
>>538717627severely slept on item
>lane opponent is viscous/talon/doortard/geist>interest to play to out the game drops to 0
>>538717830>>538719364What do you use this item for?
>>538719650to scout what the enemy is doing in their side of the map with massive potential for raping someone if you catch them unaware
>>538719650Like what the other guy said but it's in the text of the item, AMBUSHINGtry to find where they are and let your team know then blast their asshole with all your spells in the 8 seconds of buff time you have
>Lose match>Look at the stats>Our Shiv had 0 killsBy the way, how do you counter Haze?
>>538720317get juggernaut, suppressor or disarming hex/curse
>>538720317Disarming hex or just burst her down before she can build fixation stacks
>muted for the second time in two weeksI guess the times of carelessly calling people niggers with no consequences have come to an end
>3 games in a row where someone abandons early but the game is still scored
>do well as drifter>lose>do bad as drifter>winit's literally a LAW of the game
any youtubers you guys like to watch? I'm trying to learn the game so I've been watching midlock, he's funny
>>538721131Time to grow up, you spastic.
I got carried so hard that I feel bad. I should probably remove Warden from my roster.
>>538722608you're finger wagging on a video game board on 4chan nigger, look in the mirror
nta but the concept of hiding your power level was a thing even when i started using this site 20 years ago its just good advice to follow it should be obvious calling people niggers on an online game in 2025 would get you in trouble
>>538723261Power level is for irl, the fact we have to hide our powerlevel in videogames is embarrassing and just a consequence of the normification of the internet. The entire system of matchmaking instead of custom servers leads to things like not being able to say certain words because you can't just say "well the server operators think it's fine, go to a different server" as a game developer, you have to be actively involved in the process of your customers using the product that they paid for and babysit them so nobody gets asshurt.
I hate mina
Did anyone watch the EU Deadlock Night Shift finals last night? Winning team hit a bm pause at the end of the game and someone called them a monkey lmfao
Is there a point to keep the right click zoom in?I want to replace it with parry because pressing F to parry sucks.
>>538723261>>538723407Hiding your power level refers to niche hobbyism and not being like "zomg, I collect Zambot 3 figurines!" in front of your coworkers. There's no justification for having vile racist hatred tainting your heart.
just ate some ricearonifeelling good :) time to ruin someones game by trying to play doorman. ill do my best!!!
>>538723797shut up nigger
>>538723797they cant refute this
is victor just bad against gun heavy teams?
>>538724137he's bad against people that have 2 brain cells and build antiheal
What goes through the mind of a drifter or billy that split pushes alone past minute 30 and dies and allows the enemy team to take mid boss and win?
>>538723740is deadlock fight night and deadlock night shift the same thing?
>>5387237978/10 bait
>>538724573Not a single thought occurs>t. billy/drifter player
Help. My last few games I get a few kills in laning and I usually lead my team in souls, but I have a bad habit of being in the wrong place when enemies start teamfights. I'm trying to keep one eye on my minimap but I want to push and do it at the wrong time (not from being ganked just from being across the map from their big push). Tips? Should I just stick to mid when I have a lead so I'm closer to the action?
>>538724680no but the entire deadlock scene is like 3 eu and 3 na teams so it's always them anyway
>>538724680>>538725065they are the same thing, night shift is the rebrand
>>538723797I thought it was about redpilling, like talking about /pol/ shit. Though I do remember people talking about it in regards to videogames like the classic >coworker asks what videogames you play post
I really like halfway investing into stomp + spirit power and then swapping to utility in the midgame with Dynamo. You actually feel useful early.
>>538725016buy a mobility item like sprint boots, or multiple like majestic leap / warp stone/ veilwalker
>>538725016Real answer is your enemies are taking fights BECAUSE you are in the wrong place. They see you and are avoiding you as the strongest player. So either your team needs to be better (not happening) or you bait your team and then show up
>>538725016You should be buying sprint boots or fortitude every game.>TeamfightsIf it's not urn or midboss there's literally nothing you're OBLIGATED to fight over unless they're in your base. Your teammates are just choosing to fight when you're not nearby because they're retarded, due to you being in shitlow. Bad players take retarded fights over nothing constantly.
>>538725361It predates even /new/. It was originally an /a/ thing. "Hiding your power level" is from Dragonball Z.
>>538725854Of course but that doesn't necessarily mean it's /a/, though it makes sense for that to be the case. Every board used to be an anime board...
>>538725016use the teleporter and practice vent routes
>>538704321>Doesn't post rankLmao you're a fucking super low rank pussy. Only read the first two lines.
I play mcginnis when I want to win.
>>538725773That can't be deliberate, I'm still in the low ranks.>>538725781Okay I like that. Trophy Hunter sounds cool as the upgrade.>>538725964I need to do this. I don't think I've ever used the teleporters.
>be a lane janny>team takes stupid fights and gets wiped regularly>be a roaming support>our walkers get raped in seconds for freeWhat's the solution?
How do I play seven i die like 5 times in lane every game
>>538725065yeah i have noticed whenever i do tune in to a game its the same couple of teams. i think the top 2 teams Abraham and Buff Enjoyers have some beef going off the end of the game last night lmao
>>538726971It's because Abrahams consists of russian racists
>>538726290Not like it takes massive game knowledge to realize youre not there and to go onto your teammates.
>>538722625Never mind, he is pretty neat when you actually build him right. Although he is not the best hero for what I have to do in most games, aka pushing lanes fast while everyone else is team fighting.
>>538727078theres a russian on buff enjoyers though. either way its got me interested in watching the next time they play
What's the early game options I have for protect myself against spirit burst? If I don't rush spirit resilience some characters just destroy me with a simple extra spirit + mystic burst (example, Holly barrel + pad explosion + crackshot), if I do rush Spirit Resilience I forsake some much needed damage in the laning phase. I feel like it's purely a loss-loss scenario, and that's even before the person gets Cold Front.
>>538727287spirit shielding
>>538726701Are you dying 5 times on every character and you're struggling with laning in general? Because Seven isn't that different from others. Try to play around the bridge. The high ground lets you place your 1 on the ground where you want to close off space. The cover lets you hide and get close for ambushes to land your 2 and maybe get a sneaky heavy punch. Other than that it's just knowing when to poke and when to back off.
is catgirls still the #1 ivy player
>>538704959You don't buy it on lash unless it's really late game.Most of lash's burst comes from his stomp and you are not somehow doing artic blast into a really high damage stomp within the freeze's window so it only affects flog (which still does good damage mind you). You can get same or better damage spending money on other items like tankbuster or silence wave on top of basic cold front. In fact I just tested to make sure. if I stomp off the roof in the testing grounds close to the default dummy, if I have JUST boundless spirit + artic blast (12800 souls) with stomp/flog maxed out and lash at 12k level of souls, he does 1122~ If I run improved spirit, cold front, then silence wave + tankbuster (9600 total souls) he does 1050~ without using silence wave, granted this is tankbuster against a 3k target but regardless if I DO use silence wave....he does 1163. Obviously you have to use more slots here but silence wave + tankbuster are way more valuable than the pure damage and overall expense of boundless + artic blast.
>>538727287What character? If youre a mage just dodge the fucking spells. Extra hp is generally better early game than resistances as well. So you get big hp, some lifesteal and then a spirit resistance item of choice. Or the shield. Idk when you'd rather take the shield though.
>>538704784The root is surprisingly useful on brawlers like shiv or viscous
The worst part of learning a new hero is finding a decent build
>>538727368I actually meant Shielding instead of Resilience.>>538728031It's mostly on characters that have no CC and little mobility, I've been playing Victor and I have that problem with any character with strong burst capabilities and repositioning with jumpstart isn't ideal.
>>538727378Yeah I suck at laning in general. I usually try to play safe and farm on everyone but get poked and dove on. My usual strategy is lose the lane and try to catchup free farming lanes and boxes while my teammates do that group up mid and push nothing for 15 minutes thing
>>538728506take risks and actually play the gameif you play passively you will ALWAYS losefucking up laning phase is almost meaningless anyways i've won lanes where i got parried right at the start of the game and instantly died.
>>538726701He's made to be weak in lane, you basically have you play around your stun which can help you do a lot of damage if combo'd with your ball, melee or lane mate
>>538725773>be Mina>teamfight on other side of map>ult walker for half its HP>run awayMy winrate on her's still only 50% but I score high even when I lose
They need to fix the mid walker placement it's literally a death sentence and so many games are thrown cause one team is impatient and walk into the tiny choke point of doom. Half the cast with shotguns can't even fucking damage the thing before entering a guaranteed death sentence.
Why are some people physically incapable of stepping back in a lane instead of feeding their ass off? Like dude, stand back for a fucking few minutes, grab the last hits, stop walking into the enemies they hit harder than you do retard.
>>538729232nigger brained faggots think that seeing an enemy player means they HAVE to go balls deep and kill them
>>538729171Oh yeah and mid walkers are probably the reason games last so long. It takes way too much effort to kill
>>538728506It's like playing footsies in a fighting game. You jockey for position and tack on damage where you can. Constantly take note of your opponent's behaviors. Where do they like to take cover, how often do they melee creeps, how good at denying are they, etc. Try to fake them out and bait them into overextending. Always play around your lanemate and don't leave them hanging or let them wander into a place too far out of your range. Also mic up and talk to your lanemate when you think you should hit the shop or if you think he's going too deep.>>538729232If they knew how to do that they wouldn't have fed in the first place
>>538729171that van can go fuck itself
>>538729171it's basically two walkers in one because they removed one from the game when they lost a lane.pretty funny that they still have a flex slot unlocked from having to kill it too.
>>538729171>t. shitlow who only ever pushes in the front of the walker in the middle of the street, never using any of the other entry points or places that can provide cover
I just realized that the woman who wrote Frankenstein was called Shelley, and Bebop's creator is referred to as Ms. Shelly. Might be a reference. Stay alert.
>>538718065isn't that what victor is supposed to do?
>>538729821depends on the team comp, but when you're dealing spirit damage infuser beats out leechleech is what you'd get on a gun build victor
>>538729916ooooooh, ok then Ill try it out later
>>538729313vgh..jive mental asylum...home...
>>538729631>bro just walk over there to shoot the walk-ack they just killed you first
>>538729698
>>538720317there is an item that grants you immunity to bullet, another one that reflects them back as well, one item that makes you invulnerable and unmarketable and you can also just stun her with the anvil or whatever stun you have.
>>538730279>and unmarketable
Thanks for the Talon tips. I did pretty well and I think I'll be playing a lot more of this geezer. Doing big chunks of damage from a block away feels great.>>538684465>>538684529He's not so bad thanks to having 4 stam.>>538684495I barely use my bird unless someone is fleeing. I should be using it in fights more often, I suppose, when they're low but grouped together.>>538684507Aiming is the only thing I'm good at! That and parrying
>>538730279*untargetable>>538730432there's no way anyone will buy my products after they know I used Ethereal Shift, it is like saying I use skub
kino ngl
>>538730583that is pretty good but the gun needs to be an uzi or something like the one in payday2
>>538730664i wish it kept billys goathead only
>>538730556>I use skubWhy would ever do that you fucking fraud ?
>getting dunked on>leave and switch to one of my 4 altsfeels good bros. If I'm not having fun then no one in the lobby gets to have fun
>>538730130shitlow
>>538730583why are modders so much better than yoshi?
>>538730767skub doesn't impact gameplay
>>538730832
I want to see Paige's feet
>>538731215epic discord maymay good xir!
>>538729631tell me the secret mid walker cheesing spot.all i know is taking the high ground so you can at least see when enemies are coming to book it.
>splitting as mirage in green while team pushes yellow>hazenigger ignores comms and comes to green instead of going with the team>we lose the 5v6 and midboss for one (1) walkerI hate aimfaggots and I hate being an Emissary-tier player.
>>538731338
>>538731723https://youtu.be/eJxV28f-nMw?t=1347I like when he gets mad
>>538728381Just learn2dashjump.
>>538723740It’s actually insane how toxic the upper ranks are. Normally things calm down as players get better but deadlock seems the opposite. You watch an eternus or ascendent game and they teabag all the time as if “how DARE you kill me earlier or try to kill me now”; they’ll pause just before winning just to insult. They’ll spam the cross team “good work”/“well played” after EVERY interaction.It’s like you need to be a deranged autismo to rank up in this game
>>538731973this happens to me in archon
>>538731973nah some people just have insane egos in this game>>538731819kek that rejuv expire
>>538731101arcanist is not shitlow it's mid tier
>>538731819>mentally handicapped monkeyI'm using that next time I want to call someone retarded.
>>538731819the world would be a better place if this guy kills himself
>>538730767it is good for your skin
>>538731404Not really cheesing but definitely smarter angles to take than the main road under zipline:>the doorway at the top of the staircase that faces the turn in the main road where walker stands. Players coming from the other side of the map can reach this via the balcony that overlooks where the opposing mid lane guardian normally is, directly above the stairs that lead down into the subway tunnel. You could also come from the building near the right side walker(again, from the direction you'd be likely coming from), but this is a much longer route to take than the next spot>the fog door directly behind the walker, accessible just behind the T2 camp on the right side. The favored spot of rats and split pushers due to how simple it is to reach and how many escape routes you have away from it.>the halls in the building right next to walker. You have an angle from the door closest to walker, but beware as standing there means you are inside the AoE stun range. This spot is the favored angle for tanky, close range characters who have strong CCs that punish anyone who tries to chase them inside, and has 2 or 3 escape routes and even a couple tuck rooms to dip into if needed
are ziplines a noobtrap?with fleetfoot + enduring speed it takes you more less the same time to walk back to base as it does to take the zip line. the difference being you can break boxes/statues on your way
>watch any kind of SInclair gameplay whatsoever>they literally never land a single magic bolt unless it's point blank or aimed at a stationary targetWith hex being nerfed making the bunnies too fast to melee in most scenarios and assistant doing less damage in lane, he really does seem like the worst hero in the game right now.And it really sucks cause I love his ult but everything else about his kit is very unsatisfying and deserves a rework.
>>538732434they should just make polymorph point and clickit would be fucking aids but that's the point of polymorph
>FIVE matches in a row where someone fed and abandonedAh I see, I'm not allowed to exit Seeker.
When is Fortitude worth buying? Tons of high rated builds recommend it but the delay + it being reset from sacrifices/jungle creeps make it seem not great. So many of the builds recommend it though, is it just the raw health + movement?
>>538732725only get it if you know how to run boxes effeciently, otherwise it's a waste on most characters
>>538732725500 health is a lot when nukes are common. The move speed is also good, healing is more of a bonus.
>>538732682Just leave too once the timer kicks over.It won't count against you.
>>538733128You still lose the game.
>>538731973im a pisslow shitter but i do all of those things just to get a reaction. coming from CS ive had way more enemy team meltys after getting bagged than i have in CS. i assume its cos dotards are pussys
>>538733049I'm starting to think Rebuttal might not be a horrible purchase. The -2s cooldown on parry could be huge since people don't expect it to come back up so quickly and on Bebop at least it raises his health by 139 by virtue of being a green item.Just looking into alternatives that offer a health boost while also providing more utility than Fortitude.
>>538732434>I love his ultNo, you love someone else's ult.
Okay. Ivy is fun.
>>538733367It also doesn't apply to your MMR.
>>538733581Not true.
>>538732725Never having to base is nice. The health is nice. The movespeed until you're taking serious damage is very nice.
>>538733567She used to be more fun, but still is.
>>538731404DURRR IDK the fucking entire room next to the street???? you can shoot from one of the doors directly into the walker and there's an ENTIRE backside with multiple spots to shoot from>but they'll just single me out if I shoot there!!!!good, then your team can shoot the fucking walker with less enemies defending it. Evasive characters need to play from the backline and shoot. There's also a very easy to get to big open door way you can shoot from that you can enter from the front street from the right side, jump up to that second floor and walk down the hall bam it's right there and if someone is focusing you they either have to commit to running into the halls or you just hide behind cover easily
so when is this dogshit game getting a ban system
>>538729232>win lane>teammate wordlessly dives the low enemy and dies>gets mad when I dont follow him when im on 200 hp myselfeven if I had psychic powers it would end up being a 1 for 1 trade where we were hard winning, meaning they come out ahead no matter what. Dumbass niggas I swear
>>538733481Just take Veil Walker and be an absolute nigger like every other Bebop.
>>538733609Objectuvely true.
>>538729627That actually explains a lot. I was wondering why it felt so long to kill.>>538733767Hopefully never. I want to play the character I want, and I bet people will ban drifter.
>>538733814it literally says it counts as a loss if you leave and it shows up in your match history it's not really rocket science to figure out that yes it affects your MMR and no you can't dodge party-wide MMR losses by having one guy leave every losing game
>>538733789I watched 'the big man' playing that build last night and I will indeed be trying it today. Also Rebuttal actually gives like +75 health as a stated bonus stat. I like the idea of using it with Counterspell (I know the cooldown for that is 20s but it would promote a parry heavy playstyle and train you to get better with parrying in general)
Is this an ok core set of items for Billy? (unless we already have two beefy boys like Abrams+Victor, in which case i'd be a bit more damage focused)
>>538733784>80 Health on Mina>Lane partner Holliday complains when I go heal while she goes in 2v1You can't help some people
>>538733904Read the thing that pops up in the upper right after someone else leaves for 5 minutes.If (((you))) are the original leaver it counts as a loss.If you wait the 5 minutes until the pop-up happens it directly states that leaving at that point will no longer count against you.
Guys I think I might like playing Paige
>>538734061are you talking about the green box or the red box that pops up? they're different things. the green one explicitly says that the match will not be rated, the red one says it'll still count as a loss
I hate melee characters because I'm shit with them.
>>538734061Yes, the red sign that says "This match is now safe to leave, but leaving the game will result in a loss"That's precisely what it says, yes. Leaving will result in a loss. A loss that obviously affects your MMR, since it's the only reason they'd put the warning there.
>>538734061nta but the red message that appears when someone abandons the game after the game has actually gone for longer than a couple of minutes says that you can leave without penalty but the match result will still be counted.
I play gun holiday and you can not stop me
will Henry and Savannah have different models eventually or is the meme that they possess the same body
>>538732434It's a shame about the bolts. How hard is it to aim at the sky, and then at the enemy, or in their general direction ?
>>538734290KILL ALL THE FAGS THAT DONT AGREE
>>538734290As opposed to what
>>538734234>>538734217Huh. I only ever got the green one prior, and haven't had a leaver in a long time.What's the cause of that red vs the green?
>>538734667Literally anything else that's actually good
>>538734693in dota it only counts as safe to leave if someone leaves and abandons before first blood, but I've heard it's a few minutes here instead, don't know the exact cutoff
>>538734756Are you supposed to build for her barrels or something? I’ve yet to play her
>>538734290we cant but your aim will
>>538733997Yeah, I like building him on the tankier side because my team won't follow up on rams so if I'm not tanky I die. Point Blank is obviously great on him.
>>538734693before 5 minutes
>>538735156Ah.
>>538734853Tankbuster, Rapid Recharge, Surge of Power, Spirit Burn, Warp Stone, all that shit.There's also builds with Trophy Collector and Veil Walker aimed at getting picks but if you can't finish the game early and take objectives you will fall off late game.
>>538734853Barrels and lasso if you want to actually be useful
>mirage always screaming modwhy would you play anybody else?
>holiday is literally all about her gun>building her spirit instead is strongerUh...
>>538735428>one burst damage aim ability with a considerable cooldown that scales off of spirit>all about her gunpleeeeease don't tell me you shoot her barrels
>>538735428>One ability based on gun>3 abilities not based on gun, ult turns off your gunHow do you figure
I LOVE THE SMALL MAPI LOVE THE SMALL MAPI LOVE THE SMALL MAPI LOVE THE SMALL MAP
>>538735428holiday is a mess of a kit and needed more time in the oven.
>>538735327Give me a good Mirage build and the shit I've tried in public builds is terrible, special mention to the one that has Ricochet after 35k worth of items with an annotation that says "very important but DON'T RUSH"
>>538735327Because he's kind of bad and boring to play
>>538735428>4 spirit scaling abilities >0 abilities that benefit from building gun
>>538731819>goes "where is my team" when they're all dead>chase enemy team by himself>blames enemy team for not mindlessly following himI'm not even high ranked and I can tell this guy plays like a retard
>>538736508*blames his team
>>538734472Redirecting them in the air to go back down is suboptimal as the enemy can now dodge the highly telegraphed bolts and you can't redirect them last minute to hit them.
>Try Holliday for the first time>Easiest match of all timeThis hero is total aids. Thank goodness I barely see her
>>538712350"gg ez" was the absolute gayest shit to come out of overwatch, including lifeweaver, and you're a faggot for thinking it's acceptable
>Play drifter>Get +85% damage>Melting enemies left & rightI can see why he's so appealing.
>>538736967is that really its true origin, pretty crazy
>>538737015>hunter's aura>sharpshooter>vampiric burstit's raping time
>Buy Heroic Aura>Winrate doublesThat easy, huh
>>538737323does it even help much if most of the players in the lobby are on spirit builds?
How do you keep up with others in soul count? Sometimes I'm ahead of everyone, and sometimes I'm last. This was an issue this game because I was useless after laning due to being 2-3 thousand souls behind, and all the not tier 3 jungle being eaten.
>>538737646If you have characters that apply on-hit effects like Nigfernus it's quite good still.
>>538737906Boxes and solo lane jannying.>but my team is starting random brools over nothing on the other side of the map and they'll lose if I'm not thereNot your problem, tell them to stop being mouthbreathing retards.
>>538735327>>538735796I've got 50ish games on Mirage, he just doesn't have any kind of "die now" abilities that other heroes have so he really falls off in impact in the late gameHis 1 and 4 basically don't exist as abilities when you're defending base2's good at locking in an allies' CC but it requires you to have a Lash/Dynamo/etc on your team & for them to use their ult properly3 is just DPS that takes too long to ramp upHe's just one of those heroes that falls off really hard late-game if you're losing. He's got very little comeback potential>>538736967I used to say GGEZ when I lost horribly back when I played Mordhau but I didn't bother carrying that habit over to Deadlock because some people have such fragile egos in this game
>>538737129Go ahead. Buy metal skin. It can't unrape you.
My left pinky is starting to hurt. Am I playing Shiv correctly?
>>538737906Healing Rite gives you sprint speed too, and doesn't get halted by alley denizens. Use it to box fast or clear tier one denizens instead of just sitting behind cover quivering.
being a NEET is so much fun
Taking my dog for a walk (she is retarded)
>>538690050I don't believe you. It's probably a custom mode from the Arcade.
>>538690050so it's been like 7 years and they literally never nerfed seven, huh?
We love Ivy here.
>>538739254>>538739254>>538739254
>>538739273we love raping ivy here
We vore Ivy here.
