>RAIDOU Remastered: The Mystery of the Soulless Army Released on Steam and Switch 2:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H9Xyh3SciAM>Raidou Remastered World Spotlight:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lIr3mDfEAlo>VV has a demo now:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u4Br8Pt11f0>SMT VV patch 1.0.3 is out. includes 6 new navigators, one new quest and demon>Atlus 2025 Aspirations Tease Upcoming Announcement from Shin Megami Tensei Team, New Experience from Persona Team:https://personacentral.com/atlus-2025-aspirations-tease/>Giten Megami Tensei's partial translation patch for PC-98https://www.romhacking.net/translations/7343/>Vengeance OST scanshttps://imgur.com/a/smtvv-ost-liner-notes-cNN28YJ>Shin Megami Tensei The Board Game Kickstarterhttps://www.kickstarter.com/projects/smtboardgame/shin-megami-tensei-board-game>Megaten Fusion Tools [For real fusion autists!]https://aqiu384.github.io/megaten-fusion-tool/home>Archive of 3DS Texture Packshttps://reddit.com/r/Megaten/comments/1b6v86u/3ds_games_hd_texture_packs_are_gone/>Digital Devil Saga 1 & 2 soundtracks are now available on digital streaming services>Old neocities site containing info and useful links (no longer updated)https://smtgen.neocities.org/#original-post>SMT TTRPG Campaign PDF:https://files.catbox.moe/rdqfh3.pdf>20XX rereleased on April 24th for the Nintendo Switch. Steam on May 8thhttps://store.steampowered.com/app/3652460/GMODE_20XX/>Gmode announced they're rereleasing Smt Tokyo Requiemhttps://store.steampowered.com/app/3713410/GMODE/Last cycle: >>538208097
Zoma Sneed
>>538659908真 /smtg/ plays anchor post真 /smtg/ plays page:>https://rentry.org/shin-smtg-playsany suggestions for the event or rentry page?remember that you'll need 10 points in aleph's magic to progress past a certain point.how's your playthrough going?>favorite part?>any underappreciated aspects of smt 2's story or characters?>unpopular opinions?>what made you decide to pick a certain alignment route?>is it better or worse than smt 1? or equal?
I want to fill Yuzuru's holes
>>538660930which one would you fugg
One of these HAS to be an smt game.
>>538661057IV REMAKEVV DLCLET'S FUCKING GOOOOOOOOOOOOO
what alignment is Charlie Kirk?
If they remake IV before they actually make a serious, fully released worldwide remake of SMT1/2 I WILL kyoani atlus HQJust letting you know so you're not surprised if it happens
>>538660582>is it better or worse than smt 1? or equal?I'm not participating but I'll still answer this one. I think between 1 and 2 it comes down to gameplay. 1 is way too easy while 2 is artificially difficult in a way I think they did to try and compensate for 1. So I would go back and replay 1 so issues but when I think about 2.... yeah. I have the same problem with If...
this guy is in the wrong game
>>538661379Enjoy your untranslated and poorly emulated Switch Online Virtual Console ports
>>538660819Prime Minister. Please control yourself. We've been receiving death threats from a 17 year old wearing a green scarf and they're becoming increasingly more violent.
>>538659908Where'd you get this Bahlinka pic? I thought I had the only pieces of fanart she got.
How do you respond without sounding horny?
>>538662960comb my hair, bitch. all of it.
>>538662960I just say yes. If she giggles I kill her.
>>538662772probably xitter going by my non-anonymized filename
>>538659908Based OP
>>538662772can you share the rest?
Guys, check the news, it doesn't matter what channelThey shot dazai, it doesn't look like hes gonna make it
>>538664525I don't even want to joke about it, sick of seeing this crazy shit happen in my country. Shin Megami Tensei
Jonathan!
It would be cool to see Narumi back in his military/spy days
>>538664525They interviewed his widow moment later. She claimed that a full scale assault lead by the highest of all the heavens was imminent and that his killer would be brought to justice. Later a green woman could be seen giggling behind her saying "What army, you sinner?".
>>538661385i kinda get what you mean. all the sfc titles have something annoying about their gameplay.
>>538664089Well, I said "pieces" but I only have two...
>>538665805Bahlinka panty shot existed in this world and I didn't know....
>>538665909Makes it look like she's wearing a diaper.
>>538665909There's also this one I found on twitter.
>>538665509Gabriel....
Dazai but hes a girl insteadWe need the dorky loser girl to confident bombshell alignment rep
>>538666854Just make all the alignment reps in V girls then. Abdiel should be a male angel anyway.
El oh el
>>538666165Anyone have that Gabriel cucking Abdiel image?
I'd actually like remakes of games like NINE or Ronde that had interesting ideas but were held back by some form of poor execution
>>538667814I could at least see NINE happen. V had a bunch of NINE references in it so it feels like it hasn't been forgotten. I don't think it would sell at all though.
>>538667814I want a localization of NINE. RONDE needs many fixed outside the graphics with the inventory system and some other shit with negotiations and demons not being able to equip shit in RONDE when they had actual use in Majin 2. It needs a big overhaul and Fatlus wouldn't want the risk.
>>538661245Dark-Law.
>>538666854>Instead of a hat drop, fem Dazai takes off her sweater and reveals her massive milkers
>>538668342More massive than the milkers he already gets in game?
>>538668382Well not that massive, but bigger then Cleopatra's
>Law: making her your gf before you have sex>Neutral: having casual sex with no strings attached>Chaos: having casual gay sex
>>538668781Sex before marriage is a sin
>>538669020Then why did Dazai do it?
>>538669436He doesn't bend to law; law bends to him.
>>538669552Well, if fusion= sex, then you could make the claim that they never fused until Lucifer baited them into doing so.
It's Ronde's world, we're just living in it.>>538670991The devil made me do it is an excuse that has never really held muster.
I WANT SMT6 NOW
>>538673048You will enjoy SMTVV forever and you will be happy
>>538673048Get ready for Raidou Remaster DLC Nahobino Superboss and summonable Demifiend&Pixie!
/smtg/
>>538660930cute
>>538673540What's going on here? What is that red thing?
>>538666854Based
>>538676723she's leaning against someone in a red coat.
SMT V but
>>538677618good
>>538674726
>>538670991You could say it's.... biblical...
>>538677618Vkun is Vchan, aka completely fixed.
I want to fuck asahi. I want to do all kinds of things to her and mindbreak her
>>538679101Dog
>>538678737I know Doi has this in his drafts. I fucking know it. And I'm going to be so fucking furious when I eventually see it because I know it will look 10x better than what we got.
>>538679508Still wondering what proto designs everyone has. Doubtful there is vchan since earliest trailers indicated to have a male protagonist from the onset. Maybe youll get a doodle of Vkun in a skirt, but there wasn’t a Vchan to begin with
>>538667962>demons not being able to equip shit in RONDEThey can when they're made into a unit though?
>>538680320I don’t suggest doing so since you lose your shit if they die. Best to give Charlie and Sakurako a shit ton of healing items and turtle with whoever.
I was listening to V's soundtrack and ngl, and once again I'm pretty disappointed how the game turned out. That eerie chorus like music that plays when the game first start sets up the tone of "Something's bad is going to happen." mixed with the melacholic tone of setting up your name and it really feels like the calm before the storm. It really sets up for this moody atmospheric vibe where people are doing the best to ignore how fucked up the world is about to become. Those first few minutes of the game from the intro and burn of "Hey, people are getting attacked, go home in pairs" in seeing the tunnel, wondering where the fuck you've gone was peak. Then after that it just disappears...
>>538679101WHERE IS THE COMMISION
>>538680549Right, I've never found myself needing to use demons outside of the overpowered ones you could get through capsule fusion. Literally only good for weapons and conducting.
>>538680093They finalized the designs before they modeled anything. The only designs Doi drew one and done was Aogami and the Nahobino. He never made that claim about any of the other characters. I believe it because he said he was told no female protagonists right around when he would be drawing those designs in an interview. The timing is way too overlapped for me not Tobe suspicious.
>>538680876On gelbooru, unless you mean animations. They’re still be worked on
>>538681608sorry yeah animation sorry im impatient i just really love asahi.
>>538660582>is it better or worse than smt 1? or equal?I'm going against the grain and say 1 was better. 2 felt pretty unfocused in parts and although it has some neat moments, it really doesn't have that mystical and emotional moments and feelings of 1. "Level design" is more annoying in 2 too. I get it's cool and neat oh look I have to memorize keypad numbers but meh.
I want to fill PM Koshimizu full of holes
>>538682945PM GET DOWN
>>538681367Hm, still with no female protag in mind I am curious what the hell the prototype designs were for peeps like Dazai and Tao. Did he initially take Tao a Yumiko-lite but was turned down? Was Dazai the same or even worse? Who knows but we won’t ever get that answer
damn bro SMT V music is so good, way too good for that game.
SJ and Metaphor's music sounds almost nothing alike. Why do people keep saying otherwise? Does all music from similar genre sound the same to these people?
>>538683524same people who think all jazz music sounds like p5's ost
>>538683524Both orchestral, both shit
>>538683319It's sad there is so little. There is more info on how he created the MC, Aogami and the Nahobino more than any of the other human characters. It sounds like Aogami and the Nahobino were easy to make. Aogami is supposed to be a hyper masculine hero so he drew that and he didn't have to change anything. Then he went into creating the MC as a feminine polar opposite counterpart. And after that was finalized he basically just mashed the two designs together and made the Nahobino. And according to him those were the 3 first designs made for the game. There is nothing on the other besides Yoko and Tao where again he made them to be counterparts to each other. I don't remember if he said much about Sahori besides her design being a parallel to the MC. Yuzuru, Dazai, Koshimizu, Miyazu, and Yakumo all have nothing.
test
>>538689973ban evasion? or first time using spoiler?
>>538682945I they'll let you call mizuya on her bullshit. It's not that there's anything wrong with her waiting to elope with Koshimizu, my issue is that she pretends she's doing this for her brother. And what's worse after her brother got murdered she's not doing anything to take revenge on the people directly responsible.
Digimon plagiarizing SMT wwwww
SMT VI>COMPs>MC is like SJ guy but can learn Phys skills>Phys cost HP>Nocturne dungeons>Alignment dictated by choices like IV but getting Neutral isn't retarded and tedious>Heroine is replaced by alignment rep depending on your choices>Dark-Law and Light-Chaos options for funsies, total 5 alignments>Female Lawfag>Half the game in normal Tokyo, the other half in ruined Tokyo kind of like SMT1Law is unambiguously good>You kill gaijinHire me, Atlus
>>538687461>YakumoRaidou but reddit
>>538690184>her waiting to elope with KoshimizuI hope you meant Khonsu, lmao. Egypt and Japan are about to go to war.
>>538690941Base->Nocturne dungeons
>>538691131lmao yes sorry
>>538690881The moment I saw that I did immediately think of SMT.They'll meet one day...
>>538691190Ok but maybe not that but actual dungeons (and more than three toral) would be the idea
>>538691089Isn't it based off of actual police uniforms though?
>>538691504yea
>>538690941The heroine of choice gets bench time. Also the haunt gets a casino. Then I'm sold.
>>538690941>Side quest where you meet a devil summoner>Side quest where you meet a persona userThat's it
[SAD NEWS] If we were getting anything in the coming direct, Atlus West would have accidentally leaked it by now.IT'S OVER.
>>538691762That's true unfortunately.
>>538691762They posted “shin megami tensei” on xitter a while ago thoughbeit
>>538691831Just to make us angry when the direct has literally nothing.
>>538691762Nows your chance, lurking Atlus glowies. Show us the Raidou DLC for Vengeance and nobody gets hurt.
erm you're not excited for P5X, P4R and Persona 5 Royale HD?
>>538692021If Raidou is made a guest and Yakumo never is, we all have to laugh at Yakumo.
>>538690941>>538691616Hire these posters Fatlus.
>>538692252Honestly they could just add mini games and a casino to VV's haunt as is and I would be hyped for it. I just want more shit to do in there.
>>538692031Big brother /smtg/ doesn't want to acknowledge his retarded yet popular baby brother.>>538692091I'd love to get a bunch of the cast as recruitable party members, apparently it was found in the files some time ago that Tsukuyomi (Nahobino maybe?) had voice lines for it, but maybe they couldn't make it work story-wise? I dunno.
Beggining of the thread made me want to draw her as well.
>>538690881>tfw had to work right when the demo releasedHow long is the demo? I plan to play it on my day off.
>>538693231Cute
>>538693825Short enough to make you feel blueballed.
>>538693952Does it have any bangers on the level of cyber sluts and hacker's memory?>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fSxTW6wQ26Q
>>538694083Yeah the ost is nice, also comes with a bunch of song customization, you can choose different tracks for battle. Most of the ones you can pick though are from different anime seasons, each one gets 2.
>>538694234Sounds amazing, I'm on the fence with preorodering it or not, but I already know I'm going to play day one no matter what
>>538693934Thanks!
I have a suggestion for the annual Halloween /smtg/ movie night: Prince of Egypt
>>538699418Noted
>>538699418Hold on, you may be cooking.
>>538699418The plague song in that movie is way better than it has any right being
https://youtu.be/9AgrOIvqj04Zeus will be absent in the next MegaTen game as a result.
>>538702437i like that one a lot along with "deliver us"
>>538703561He'll ask if he can gay rape the next MC too. You can't stop him.
>>538704471I wish I could find people who make funny plushies and figures for other SMT games besides V. They're fun.
>>538706260This same person made figures for Demi and pixie at least. (The joke is that V said demons are invisible so that's why pixie looks like a mini floating cloak)
>>538699418Unbelievably based.
>>538706260Be the change you wish to see in the world. There's plenty of tutorials/patterns online.https://youtu.be/TFJYsVw-1sA
>>538710868I wonder if they'll ever release more of these types of plushies, I only remember seeing Nahobino and this guy. I want a Demifiend...
i need to see narumi getting pegged with a strap on. preferably by tae
>>538710868I kind of did already several years ago. Someone posted a pattern for a paper doll Aogami but put it behind a pay wall and a limited time printing window at a Japanese convenience store. So I edited the low rez thumbnail with a water mark on it to make it printable because I liked how goofy it was. I could take that pdf and edit it for any SMT character if I cared enough. Not a plushie but still arts and crafts smt. Maybe one day. It would be fun to make a version of the smt1 MC, chaos hero, and law hero so you can display the 3 together. Probably wouldn't be too hard.
Why is Persona more popular than SMT? Is it because of the "dating sim" aspect? Because it's more character driven, while SMT mainly focuses on the consequences of one's beliefs/actions? Persona is easier? Persona is more lighthearted? I just don't see why mainline SMT can't enjoy the same popularity Persona has. I can imagine most casual gamers will recgonise the Persona franchise, but not SMT.
>>538699418thus sayeth the lord
>>538711857It picked up entirely because of the Persona 4 anime. It became a flavor of the month for a time, so when P5 was announced it just built up traction from there.
>>538712046So say, for example, they made an SMT anime. Let's say SMT4 anime. Do you think it could become just as popular as Persona?At the same time, I'm quite happy with how it is right now. Persona keeps all the annoying people away from SMT but at the same time it introduces SMT to the more chill and open-minded fans.
>>538712312It really depends on how the anime is marketed and paced. Remember the devil survivor 2 anime?
>>538712554You have a point
>>538712312even the shitty castlevania and dmc cartoons boosted the sales and popularity of those series
>>538712312>Persona keeps all the annoying people away from SMT but at the same time it introduces SMT to the more chill and open-minded fans.So why do you want an anime to bring those people in? Frankly if SMT got an anime it probably wouldn't work to the degree Persona does. Persona has the right amount of slice of life, to school drama, to action ratio that normie anime watchers like. SMTV anime might come close but probably not close enough without losing the dark feel that's even in that game. If it kept the same hopelessness and end of the world feeling it would only appeal to a niche audience. And if it didn't have that, it would not be a faithful adaption.
>>538712786It's just a hypothetical. It uncommon for a spinoff series to be wildly more popular than the original. Like you said, SMT's dark nature filters a lot of people out. And also like you said Persona has more slice of life and is a lot more character driven. SMT is a lot more philosophical and some might even say "preachy". It's not for everyone.Oh well, as long as the Persona monies let Atlus make more SMT games I'm happy
>>538711857All of the reasons you listed are correct. A fandom, especially these days, is almost entirely built on the characters and the love for them. A pretty good way to guarantee a game thrives is having a memorable and charming cast. See: Deadlock's success compared to how bad Concord flopped. There were a lot of problems with Concord but the biggest thing people complained about was how shitty the player characters looked and that none of them stood out or had any "oomph" to them. Meanwhile, Deadlock isn't even finished and people are already super invested in the characters because all of them are practically dripping with charisma. While SMT does do well on its own, a lot of people agree that the character writing suffers greatly because there really isn't a lot for the audience to work with. What do we actually know about, say, Yuzuru? He has a sick sister, his parents are dead, he has a watch from his father, and he's Tsukuyomi's Knowledge... That's kind of the gist of it. We don't typically get told information that would help us bond with him like his hobbies, his likes or dislikes, or really have any moments with him outside of purely plot-related things. Persona by comparison gives a ton of breathing room for you to spend time with your friends, doing stuff that doesn't entirely concern the main story, and generally just letting us get to know your party members and other NPCs by allowing you to talk to them a lot more. That's the stuff that teenagers in particular latch onto and go absolutely nuts for, and boom, you have a thriving fandom that draws in new people all of the time. Mainline SMT is more for older audiences that aren't that concerned with stuff like that, so even if a lot of people might be into SMT, the fandom seems much more quiet since there's not a lot to discuss without having to basically start making shit up.
>>538713202mothman if he meal
>>538713134I mean technically SMT is making more money now. They've been pushing SMTV merch more so than any other mainline game. Maybe Nocturne competes but I'm not sure. VV has a lot of merch now. Most of it is just printing the character art on different merch over and over again but still, the other games don't get that. Honestly I could see them do a SMTV anime or a manga at least but those things require so much production time we wouldn't see it for at least a couple more years at best if it were to ever happen.
>>538661943Mermaid... ToT
>>538712312I feel like DSRK would translate better into an anime. This might be recency bias after just having played the remaster and King Abaddon. The game is episodic in nature. It's kind of framed like a classic detective TV show in some ways. It's also quite lighthearted at times. There's more opportunities for a slice of life filler episode than normal SMT. The manga was pretty fun. Maybe they could make an anime work too
I think a DDS anime would be popular
>>538713414Raidou would make a great anime but it would only appeal to a niche audience too. Westerners tend to shy away from anything too traditionally Japanese, games and shows alike tend to do worse.
>>538712704Can't say about DMC but the Castlevania cartoon attracted the kind of people you don't want around as they consider the cartoon canon over the games.
>>538711857Persona has a lot more mainstream appeal in multiple regards. The characters are more identifiable, the gameplay has plenty of variety while fitting into a normal "normal" turn-based system. As you mentioned, they're more character-driven which tends to be a more popular way of framing a story, and frankly the games tend to be more polished and focused. There are five mainline Persona games, but it's only 3 and on that are especially popular with 5 being the most popular, and they owe much of that popular to their design cohesion and how easy they are to pick up and sink your teeth into. They're also readily available to anyone in at least some form. The mainline SMT games and their numerous spin-offs vary wildly in quality, focus, and design ethos from game to game. I adore SMT, but you can't really escape the fact that Persona is a more consistent franchise from game to game in the modern era. SMT plays with its core mechanics frequently, but it doesn't always stick the landing and often has some rough edges. Persona's gameplay has its own issues in that department, but its core mechanics largely build on each other over time. Persona 5 is a very easy game, but it plays smoothly. The grungier aesthetics of SMT probably just aren't as generally popular as the more slick and stylized modern Persona look.
>>538713414>>538713525I've always wondered if they would make a Raidou anime, even if it's almost guaranteed to probably look bad. At least getting a bunch of shitty frames of distant characters with uneven eyes is always fun. I do wonder if they would make a completely original story or if they would just adapt Soulless Army/King Abbadon, or maybe even the manga? A real pipe dream would be a movie or something.
>>538713826Yamai just wants his Raidou 3 with his meager funds at least.
>>538713525The aesthetics of SMT 3 felt particularly esoteric even within the mainline games.
>>538713889Nocturne also has 10+ years of wanking from people playing their first non-FF JRPG to sell it.
>>538713889But esoteric is cool. If Nocturne were say about traveling through Japanese history while fighting demons, it would have flopped.
>>538713623As a castlevania game fan, seeing some of the shit people say after only watching the anime was grim
>>538714005NTA but while I tend to agree with you, there's exception like Okami which was successful.
>>538714194At this point I just hate anything Konami does or approves of. Even the MGS3 remake was utterly soulless.>>538714227>cute doggo game>very fun and different gameplay with wiimote wagglin which was popular at the timeThat's why. Okamiden, the sequel, sold terribly.
>>538691089Yasunori Kato but Reddit more like
>>538714194I know, hence my post.
>>538714227Okami was initially such a flop that Clover shut down. It just kept getting ported to shit which is why it sold well in the end.
>smt gets greenlit to have an anime >YIPPEE>its VV >but wait actually its a separate third thing that strays away from the original story >Dazai is the final boss
>>538714409Amaterasu was also put into marvel vs capcom which boosted the game's popularity. Actually if mainline SMT ever gets into a smash game, we can see a massive rise in awareness, for better or for worse.
>>538714473Imagine the fujobaiting... if you think its bad now, then that would make it so much worse.
>>538714510You're right about Smash. I think Joker in Smash was how a lot of newer Persona fans got introduced to it. It was an insanely cool reveal and he's also fun to play in it
>>538714609It would be too gay for words, but think of all the sexo demon compensation.
>VV anime>they show everything that happened in the dorm room that nightI would just skip that episode.
Shortly after finishing Raidou Remastered a stray black cat started sneaking into my back yard and into my house. He's still doing it. Am I the next Raidou Kuzunoha?
>>538714948Does it have green eyes?
>>538714948Lore wise even a rando like (You) can become raidou if you’re qualified enough as a summoner and beat the trials
>>538714948It's a DDS reference, dumb fuck. The sun is trying to kill you.
>>538715076It does actually. And he he still has his balls, which is how I know its a male, and most likely a stray. He'll sit by the door but he won't let me come near. I give him some treats though
>>538715204>this fucker might actually become raidou Can you send a sexy female demon my way once you complete the trials? Preferably a Scathach but I’ll take a Parvati too
I will never stop posting 8K SMTVV screenshots!
>>538715886Then pray SMTVV EX is real tomorrow so you have an excuse to take more screenshots.
>>538715990>mfw not real
https://bsky.app/profile/ayytee3d.art/post/3lygyd2dydc2kAll VV models dump
Art > ultra realistic graphics
>>538713525Golden Kamuy is fairly popular, and it's set around the same time period, more or less.
this will be censored in SMT6
>>538716503Very popular in Japan more so. Demon Slayer would be a better example of a traditional Japanese anime that does well.
>>538715886Based.
>>538716426You got a cool 8k shot of when he stares at his hand in this form at the beginning of the combat doing his edgy "it's just not the same..." thing? It's always messed up by the menu and always having to see it from behind.
>>538716758Ah, I've never watched Demon Slayer. I didn't realise it was set in an actual historical period, I thought it was purely a fantasy thing
SMT x Dungeon Keeper
>>538716990It's set in fantasy Taisho era Japan.
>>538716861
>>538717283Kino, thanks anon I was worried you wouldn't know what I was talking about.
>>538716503I liked it but it was also massively gay, holy shit.
>>538717460But it's funny gay, so it's ok.
SMTVV had a sudden merch drop a few hours ago. It's all shit but it's suspicious timing....
>expecting anything V related tomorrow Anon…
>>538719542In truth I expect nothing. Not a single smt related thing. If something does happen, I'll be very surprised.
>>538717885I forgot to mention that it's amnibus merch which is kind of relevant. Every merch drop they've done for VV coincided with something. The last one was the VV release anniversary. This one just dropped out of no where and Japs have been commenting on it being strange. And it probably means nothing but whatever. Also it's gacha, lmao.
>>538717885What was it?More merch for fujo?
my sleep paralysis demon works at atlus and he told me soul hackers 2 is getting ported
>>538720506Even more low effort than that. Character art slapped on cards, buttons, keychains, desk mats etc. And a ton of it. You can pay 7,500 yen for ten gacha spins to win any of it at random.
>>538659908Nocturne came out the same year as Bionicle: mask of light and somehow I think there’s a shared vibe
>>538723393I remember very little about that movie despite being into Bionicles at the time
>>538720947My sleep paralysis demon could beat up your sleep paralysis demon
>>538723034I wish we could have more figures. Even nendos would do. I'd love a Ringo figure
>>538659908
Fallen Nintendo
>>538726398How does this affect SMT?
>>538727131It's specific to the point of only really applying to Legends Arceus/Z-A and Palworld.Still fucking scummy as shit.
>>538727680this made me realize that I've never heard any urban legends about 9/11 besides the US government being behind it
>>538727732This is why I always say patents in video games stifle creativity within the industry. Only one company able to use a specific mechanic? It's unfair and shouldn't be allowed to be honest. Can you imagine if Pixar patented 3D animation? Maybe not the most equivalent example but you get my point
Why is he such a loser?
>>538729382no toast
bump
Bumpdyne
Repel Bump
>>538734763it's the nigga that repels bumps!
>>538735628Sagehabaki
>>538727680I didn't even know there was a Guitar Hero 5. Legend of Rock was my shit and changed my music taste forever.
>>538716739SMT VV is the last real SMT game. Would certainly be poetic
>>538736613>SMT VV>realI shiggy
>>538735723truke
>>538727680>Drakengarddidn't know that, cool>>538736672well yeah, it was made in unREAL engine
>>538736001He evolves from Monono(You)
Why did he say this?
>>538740538Raidou 2 was so homoerotic for no reason, it was actually kinda weird.
>>538742494Yamai's homolust
>>538742626Do you think he was horny for Narumi and projected onto Raidou, or was he hony for Raidou and projected onto Narumi?
>>538743158he's horny for both and also projects on to all the gay characters
>>538740538They're gonna censor this if King Abaddon ever gets remastered, lest the xitter morons come after them"Y'know, it's qualities like those that make me really respect a guy."
>>538743716>censoring something that comes off as gayI actually think they might leave that one in. Jesus, remembering all the weird stuff that was in Raidou 2 makes me realize just how different the tone is compared to 1. 1 had some things like this here and there but it feels doubled in the sequel.
>>538743372Do you really have a collection of screenshots of every homoerotic moment in the game
>>538743980You forgot the age gap. Also Aogami's gay lines were toned down by Atlus West. I mean there is one line where Aogami ponders why his feelings for the protag seem deeper than friendship and they gutted it.
>>538744032no, I just have some screenshots of weird shit. I tend to take a lot of screenshots of megaten games and I even see anons repost them sometimes.
>>538743980But won't some people say it's "literally pedophilia" and get worked up over fictional characters like they usually do? it's a 30+ year old man saying this to a 16-17 year old Everyday I praise the Lord that SMT isn't exactly mainstream so I don't have to deal with this stuff on my feed
>>538744179>>538744267Some NPCs being "creepy" towards Raidou that are clearly adults were left unchanged in the Remaster, but this might be an oversight because apparently the localization team just used the PS2's original translation instead of retranslating everything from scratch. This is supposedly the reason the references to the admiral and the elemental bullets are still in the game because those bits of dialogue were changed properly in Japanese. They might have to go out of their way to actually change Raidou 2 Remaster's dialogue though, there's so much in it that they probably shouldn't ignore, like Nagi being said to have a thing for Geirin or the YWNBAW moment.
>>538744980Yeah. The remaster was kinda slap dash with the censorship. They censored the Rising Sun/Imperial Japanese flag probably so they could sell the games in certain regions. I don't think they would have censored it because it's considered "offensive". It's a real historical flag that was used during the time period even if the time period is kinda fictionalWould you censor a Confederate flag that takes place in a Confederate area in a game about the American Civil War? I think that would be stupid personally, but who knows
>>538744980Something that's funny to me is how Atlus West seems to handle Aogami now and I have no idea if it's because they perceive an age gap or not. But if they do it would probably effect the Raidou 2 remaster no doubt.
>>538745747>Would you censor a Confederate flag that takes place in a Confederate area in a game about the American Civil War? I think that would be stupid personally, but who knowsCommandos 2 is a game about fighting nazi but the remaster removed all nazi imagery.So yes, this can definitely happen.
>>538746023Many, many games do this though.
>>538746316And I'll call them retarded each time.
>>538746023See I don't understand this mindset. It's like they want to erase Nazism from ever existing, by constantly omitting the symbols they used. I think things like these should remain uncensored so they are constantly made an example of. Usage of a symbol does not equal support of it
>>538745747Like >>538746023 said, sometimes historical accuracy takes a back seat to censoring things to make sure nobody on SNS gets their widdwe fee-fees hurt. It's a raw deal, but unless the game is outwardly explicit about the subject matter they're handling (Wolfenstein, maybe?) then just to be safe from scathing gaming journalists that only want to make a buck off a controversial headline people will click, then stuff is just going to get censored. That's the state of the world right now, for better or for worse. Usually these are games from bigger companies with concerned investors that get censored, tons of the more historically accurate games seem to be indies.
>>538746421The Schwastika is in a weird position because it is still widely used in Asia.My europoor country like to think that it isn't and are very quick to call you a nazi over it but I know pajeet managed to unban it and an now wear them freely, in Germany no less.I know it also has caused issues from gaijin tourists visiting temples too.
>>538746487You're right. Companies want to keep their shareholders happy at all times.Unrelated to SMT, but it brings to mind the controversy that happened around Great Ace Attorney Chronicles when it released officially in English. People were complaining about how racist and anti-asian a lot of the characters are. As if that isn't the point of the game... and as if the game isn't made by Japanese people... written by a Japanese man..I'm super interested in history myself so I get really touchy on matters of historical representation.
>>538746813>gaijin still don't know Hitler stole the symbol Tale as old as time.
i will make a world where /smtg/ lasts forever...
>>538747954Eventually /smtg/ must come to an end.
Name a good megaten fangame
>>538748590I will transcend /smtg/ and I guess fly away and become the cosmic buddha or something
>>538748889Fatlus worship the devil, disgusting
>>538748834mine
>>538748951we're all satanists here
>>538749000i thought we were megatennists
>>538748889>Lucifer takes YHVH's knowledge>he becomes Matter>Yoko and Tao are "Matter Goddesses">they all have wings>serve the GW's designsSo they are basically angels right? Great Will adjacent angels? That would imply there are tons of Matter Goddesses that are basically mechanical angels at the GW's employ. Like how YHVH summoned a hoard of Metatrons in IVA. What if they added other Matter angels? Why angels could also be part of the Matter race?
>>538749090lucifer is my megami
>>538748889All this bullshit just for a small petty victory over the Great Will, what a shit character.
>>538749508Didn't Satan say it sent the GW a message though?
As a lover of hetero, yuri and yaoi I think Raido/Raidou > Narumi/Raidou
>>538748889
>>538749569nah. Narumi/Tae is the best. Period
Why would Demibitch go for TDE?
>>538749110And what if they are categorized by alignment and the GW doesn't discriminate? You have some that are bull leaning and others that are snake leaning? That would be kinda cool. Like a army of chaos and law "angels" to show he's above the system. Kino....
>>538749756My headcanon is that he's stuck in a time loop where he did every other ending over and over with the same melancholic ending until he just said fuck it.
>>538749508I don't even think it was so much as a "win" as it was Lucifer just deciding not to play anymore.>Bounce around a dozen timelines scheming, plotting, and usurping>Kill God over and over>Warp around all over the Amalaverse>No matter how many "ultimate beings" you kill, get killed by, defeat, are defeated by you're still a slave to the endless cycle of chatur yuga>"Oh fuck, I've been Buddha's palmed">"Alright, let's just burn the place down and leave then, good luck kids, I quit."
>>538749756he's just that edgy, even when he was a human
DLC announcement soon.
>>538749756My headcanon was that he felt a pull towards the aborted Reason of "Masura" that died along with Gozu-Tennoh after his weird rivalry with Thor, and seeing the other Reason advocates plus Takao all fail to embody their supposed ideals and, having come to understand that the dream of "a world of strength, ruled by law" where balance could be achieved between the humans he once knew and the demons he had come to understand and identify with was impossible under the Amala System, he chose to flip the board and fully embrace his role as a the human ashura, thus setting the stage for the Nahobino to fulfil his own role as an embodiment of the nahobi-no-kami and restore the shattered Amalaverse into something free from the corruption that had set in over countless cycles.
>>538662062Did the gigathick mod maker ever finish converting all the fem demons? Asking for a friend.
>>538749756If you look at the way his map icon rotates when you're still exploring Tokyo before the Conception, he's rotating clockwise. He's been a Chaosfag from the very beginning. Probably the reason Lucifer chose him to begin with and not Chiaki or Isamu.>>538746876Oh yeah, actually they were going in really hard with the original Japanese release of TGAA that they went a little overboard and in subsequent releases they had to tone down a certain character's racism. That game really didn't pull any punches otherwise and I appreciate it because I'm kinda sick of media pretending that racism and/or xenophobia wasn't a thing because it doesn't really show us how different things were and how much has truly changed, but also it just makes things feel weirdly sanitized sometimes.
>>538750912I thought clockwise was law
>>538750331>are you readyF-for?!
>>538750998I don't actually remember which way he's rotating, I just know that he was rotating and it was Chaos rotations
>>538748834eraten
>>538750912Yeah I agree with you. I hate how everything has to be sanitised just so people don't get their feelings hurt, or to make shareholders happy.The official English version of TGAA still depicts racism plenty enough however. Honestly I really respect the Ace Attorney localisation team. You can tell they have a passion for their products. They even went out of their way to find English-speaking Japanese VAs for the main characters in TGAA. It's small details like those that I really appreciate
>>538751236I just checked and he's rotating counterclockwise so yeah he's a chaosfag
any lawfags in this thread?
>>538751558Sup.
>>538750912>I'm kinda sick of media pretending that racism and/or xenophobia wasn't a thingNo problem when it's sucking up to niggers though
>>538699418Based. Best SMT game for a full Egyptian god team?
>>538751558Yes. Total Chaosnigger Death
>>538751558Wassup
>>538750912Deosil is law and widdershins is chaos
>>538749621https://www.youtube.com/shorts/EcLP5n0ILxo
>>538751558I gravitate towards law, chaos or neutral based on which best serves me at the time.
>>538750807Seconding
>>538749675Well that is the best Narumi pairing
>>538751771>>538699418
>>538755212
>>538750331Atlus glowie? Is that you?
>>538755386
>>538749110I like how they drop the Matter thing in your lap and never elaborate on it. You would think Lucifer being the same race as Tao and Yoko would be significant.
>>538755551Race?
>>538756254VVV EX trust the plan
Is this thread in need of a drawfag? I'm not that good but I feel like doodling, who wants something drawn
>>538758443Add to my Snoko collection. Or draw you demon waifu of choice.
>>538758443i don't deserve any drawings right now but i always enjoy seth smt2 and if... drawings.
>>538758443draw Old One if you dare
>>538750331I would be disappoint if true
>>538757538Foul
>>538760234Think of it this way, VI is a long way off, do you just want there to be nothing in the meantime? Is the rumored IV remake even real? That rumor was years ago.
>>538758617sorry if it's really bad, i did my best haha
>>538756254>>538749110I think Matter refers to star matter/the basic energy the universe is made of/etc. Lucifer becomes a Buddha and understood all of creation hence Matter and the Matter Goddes are your goddess of creation.
>>538761112whoops i didn't crop it properly
>>538752397I love all the allignments. They are all treasures
>>538761112It's amazing anon, thank you.
>>538758443Can you draw Bahlinla as well? >>538659908 We could use some Maken love.
>>538761292But there is something very strange about it. Because Yoko will never call herself a goddess of creation. Atlus West fucked it up like many other things but like with the original release and cutting out information at the end of the of the game (like revealing Koshimizu was a proto-fiend), they cut this part out too. Mastema and Tao will say Goddess of Creation but Yoko won't. Also the original V guide said it's basically their true name when Tao's blue form was listed. By looks of it Lucifer is just the male version of them.
>>538758634
>>538758443I'll take what chance I can get to get some more Nightmare art
>>538761940I'm going to redraw it Anon, looking at it again the face is goofy as hell. Give me a moment
>>538762403Yoko was the world's Goddes of Creation before YHVH and GW banned her. They made Tao Matter Goddess BECAUSE of Yoko.
>>538763942They are still both Matter Goddesses. I'm just saying that's their offical label in the guide. Yoko will only call herself this. Lucifer is also Matter. It's a connection that deserve more explanation. It feels almost unfinished. Calling them higher angels would be cool because of the wings and the fallen aspect with Lucifer and Yoko being cast aside, losing that status, and then regaining their true forms. I just feel like it's something that should be explored more, not name dropped and moved on from.
>>538763848But that's the charm. Only if you really want to anon. I still like it.
>>538711130>add horse ears>suddenly agnes tachyon
>>538763403based. thank you
>>538764595Sir this is /smtg/>>538763403Pretty cool!
UMA Uma
uma with with a black upper lip
Tyrant Goldshi
die horsefuckers
>>538763709
>>538765504UMA delicia
Foul Macaco
>>538765723Good lad, thanks
>>538758443i drew these the other day
>>538766031Needs law hero to complete the fluffy browned haired trio.
>>538766202funnily enough there was a third character i drew here, but it was my personal OC called Lawrence who has fluffy brown hair. I created him even before i knew anything about SMT, but he looks like Narumi and Jonathan haha
>>538765717ok retard
>>538767096take your offtopic garbage to >>>/mlp/
>>538766801Put him in a red coat and you're done.
this is my favourite uma
>>538768016She invited me out for a swim later today.
>>538765504>>538765593IT'S CANON
Rumor Horsecock
>>538767228>muh mlp>"t-this is hecking offtopic"lmao kill yourself
>>538758443Anything Ronde related
>>538769182sorry about your gambling addiction faggot
>>538751771Honestly surprised there hasn’t been a full on Egypt game. Given the cyclical nature of the law v chaos shtick, you can incorporate that with Ra, Set, and perhaps a dash of Thoth. Sure there’s elements of Egyptian mythology in the games, extending to the original DDS series, but there hasn’t been a full on game with them as the main players>V?Side quests and such doesn’t count. >VV?EeeeeeeehI just want there to be further exploration of other cultures besides full on Christianity and Hebrew lore since there’s some wild shit to play around with>>538768368Makes me want to write some self insert shit solely to record the vilest smut imaginable with picrel
>>538773327Bethel Egypt's concept was like getting blue balled. Interesting on paper but terrible application. It amounted to focusing on Miyazu and Khonsu's bullshit and everything else was pushed aside. I mean all the lore around it had so much potential>Ra's rise to power with the throne and getting past the snake curse>Amon's loss of power and his ability to become a god again>Cleo's expulsion>Khonsu taking control of their pantheon and the bullshit involved with itAll of this is just flavor text but much more interesting than the stupid tragic love story with Miyazu.
>>538773721When the global bethel agencies were being named dropped I was so hoping for there to be further interactions with them. Hell seeing Set just flying around was cool as hell to see. I wanted so badly to see what was going on in the other bethel’s and the fact that egypt was stuck with miyazu and Khonsu off into a corner? That was such bullshit. I want to see some of the events from the lore but we got nothing
>>538774119The other Bethel chapters had interesting lore too. Zeus and Odin are reluctant buddies. Odin has been getting involved in war purely to build an army of ghosts in Valhalla by having his Valkyries collect them. Zeus has baggage with his knowledge that died and now his father by trying to make him "acceptable" to human culture again. Zeus apparently just like to send out random Greek demons out to kill at random and thinks it's funny. It's all barely touched upon world lore. At least Shiva keeping to himself and biding his time made sense because he was collecting magatsuhi on the side. And that's boring but at least it makes sense why he would be absent from the plot.And then there is the implication that there is a Bethel chapter in Jerusalem because Mastema talked about crossing the sea at one point. And then there are also angry demons left stranded from defunct Bethel chapters that were dissolved. Is it bad that I wish they'd make some kind of spin off game so all this world building isn't wasted? Because it's interesting.
look at this bum
>>538776102Get this tranny shit out of here
>>538776192lol. seethe more
>>538776102why is she smoking weed
>>538770661>addictionniggers call everything they don't like an addiction
>>538777919its supposed to be a cigarette but i forgot to color it in. whoops
>>538773327>the cyclical nature of the law v chaosLOL That's because fagtlus NEVER does and has NEVER done anything with Law vs Chaos that isn't "Abrahamic vs everything else"Why is that? Here:s the answer >>538748951So good luck getting a game where the main conflict revolves around Egyptian, Greek, Nordic, Chinese, Hindu or even Japanese mythology for that fucking matter
>>538778691I agree she's the best, but this is the wrong general, anon
>>538778691wrong tab nigga
>>538778691ermm.. shin megami tensei? also read a better VN.
>>538778843>>538778862i fucked up
>>538778908It happens to the best of us, but you better get your Hiruko stocks up
>>538778691lol
You'd think an SMT game about Amatsukami vs Kunitsukami or whatever would be a no-brainer but fAtlus would never
>>538779589It's been in multiple games now.
>>538778146>I'm playing a gacha game for the deep mechanics! I swear! I'm not addicted!
>>538780571A side quest about it doesn't count thoughie
>>538781124Side quest?>part of the story in 2>world lore in devil summoner which is multiple gamesIt was mentioned in a few side quests in V only. Not the others.
>>538780680Quoted nobody award
>>538781308I know it's an aspect in some of the games (like in Raidou 1) but none of them are ABOUT that
>>538780680I've never seen you shit yourself like this when Dx2 comes up
>>538781572So you want the whole game to focus on Amatasu vs Kunitsu and you play as like Okuninushi or something like that?
>>538781725Dx2fags know how to post in their own containment thread
Schizo's having another melty again
>>538782118Which one?
Raidou and his descendants!
way too much Raidou spam this thread
>>538784878too bad for you
>>538786021>give Raidou scars and make him a badboy who likes to flirt with women>he ends up having enough fangirls to get his own fun quest in the sequelI need him playable now, even if just an outfit with voice change (it's still Sugita, just doing the Gundham voice instead of the good boy voice).
>>538783356>whichlol
>>538788630>he thinks one schizo is behind all shitpostingI have some bad news for you
EL SEMI-OSCURO.
>>538789568What are these things called? These little balls to make pixel art irl
Is there an SMT game that completely subverts the alignments? I mean how can you be World Of Str vs World of Order when to do World of Order you need to be the strongest to enforce the rules. Is 4A really the only one that goes "both sides are stupid fucking dumbasses"
So why are beads healing items
>>538789741Perler beads
>>538789169I've been here long enough to recognize how he posts. He likes creating new identities for himself when he gets bored is all.
>>538789959>Is 4A really the only one that goes "both sides are stupid fucking dumbasses">another anon doesn't understand the neutral alignment>again
>>538790214Ok but I was the one shitposting about gacha and I'm not the schizo. I tried to warn you bro
What would you like in SMT VI?not even going to lie, can we just have a CaC? Dressing up Flynn and Nanashi are mad fun.
>>538790341Neutral is meh too. I mean all SMTs hint at it but especially 3, SJ and 4 really push the narrative that "who gives a shit everything is a fucking cycle, no matter what you do, things will be shit." Neutral is just keep the status quo until again something triggers change. (aka kick the can down the road), Law and Chaos are just variations of try to change the world but "lmao GL, something is going to change the status quo"
>>538790452If V can never have outfits because it would be too hellish for the indie developers at Atlus to program, I would at least like to play dress up in the dorm room. And it doesn't have to just be the girl's clothes he collects. He has a suit too. They did nothing with it. That stupid wall of text about how he likes to collect and hoard the relics in his dorm room and you don't actually get to display any of them. That was the perfect opportunity to add in mini games on the console relics, you know? Sometimes I wonder what the dorm room was even for.
Like at this point, how can you write SMT so the endings aren't just "things will be as you want for now......."I get that's the point but almost every game ending in the series now just doesn't feel satisfying because it always ends with that whole message of "yeah things will go to shit later but that's for another story."
>>538790838>indie developers>all cutscenes are made in engine (except for the pre-rendered ones but fuck the pre-rendered ones)??? i mean at this point why not. I don't think anyone will actually care for anime cutscenes nor will they care for pre-rendered.
>>538790452This pic glows
>>538791090Because of the hair. I remember when they were doing UE5 interviews all they did was talk about how programing the hair took months of work. Now imagine that with new outfits. That would be tons of dev work for them to make look right without clipping and bugs. It's wasted effort that could go into actual new playable content. If I had to pick one over the other I know what I would choose.
>>538791260oh. i mean they did the hard part now haha, just be like gay ass square enix developers and don't allow the hair to be used with certain outfits or just cap it. fuck man if shift up can do it, they can too and they're probably poorer than atlus is.
>>538791516Somehow I knew this was Ronde just looking at the thumbnail.
seriously those first two songs when you start SMT V with you walking in the tunnel with that dark chorus like music and then the melancholic school music with the calm before the storm. shit is peak, are there any other games like this but actually keep the atmospheric mood? yes I played III but I don't think the music was as good as V in getting you THAT immersed.
>>538789741Fuse beads
>>5387552121. Had! The manifestation of Nuit. 12. The unveiling of the company of heaven.3. Every man and every woman is a star.4. Every number is infinite; there is no difference.5. Help me, o warrior lord of Thebes, in my unveiling before the Children of men!6. Be thou Hadit, my secret centre, my heart & my tongue!7. Behold! it is revealed by Aiwass the minister of Hoor-paar-kraat.8. The Khabs is in the Khu, not the Khu in the Khabs.9. Worship then the Khabs, and behold my light shed over you!10. Let my servants be few & secret: they shall rule the many & the known. 211. These are fools that men adore; both their Gods & their men are fools.12. Come forth, o children, under the stars, & take your fill of love!13. I am above you and in you. My ecstasy is in yours. My joy is to see your joy.14. Above, the gemmèd azure is The naked splendour of Nuit;She bends in ecstasy to kiss The secret ardours of Hadit.The wingèd globe, the starry blue, Are mine, O Ankh-af-na-khonsu!15. Now ye shall know that the chosen priest & apostle of infinite space is the prince-priest the Beast; and in his woman called the Scarlet Woman is all power given. They shall gather my children into their fold: they shall bring the glory of the stars into the hearts of men.16. For he is ever a sun, and she a moon. But to him is the winged secret flame, and to her the stooping starlight. 317. But ye are not so chosen.18. Burn upon their brows, o splendrous serpent!19. O azure-lidded woman, bend upon them!20. The key of the rituals is in the secret word which I have given unto him.21. With the God & the Adorer I am nothing: they do not see me. They are as upon the earth; I am Heaven, and there is no other God than me, and my lord Hadit.
Is Monark or Valet any good?
>>538659908The thinking behind this is so close to TDE that’s it’s actually quiet sinister, I always suspected that in TDE you aren’t actually embodying the Tree of Life but the Qilphoth https://www.youtube.com/watch?si=wM3LnJ9emaxE-7sh&v=45PWk_cQB34&feature=youtu.beYes TDE is primarily inspired by Buddhism, but this hits so close that (and I know that Atlus isn’t deep enough in the occult to know any of this) that this adds to my suspicion that real life entities subtly influence media such as SMT to depict things the writers aren’t even aware of.But if you haven’t noticed already, TDE is a complete scam. Lucifer purposely does not tell you that the ‘permanent reality’ that you create in TDE is only permanent because it’s permanently never ending incomprehensible chaos
that's nice and all schizofag but im still expecting answers to my on topic discussion
>>538791570The guide says if you beat the final stage on ending 2 or 3 on hard mode it unlocks the extra stages, even though this is only true for ending 3.Stupid fucking game.
all i get are meme posts about ronde, nobody actually talks about ronde is except le "bad meme"
>>538787354Maybe in Raidou 3 we'll get to play as him. It would be so easy... I just want to see him more.
>>538793106Literally no one has played the game besides Rondegod
>>538793106Me and some other anon talked about it earlier itt I think. I kind of talked about it to death already so unless you want to ask something specific about it I'm not gonna discuss too much.I do actually like Ronde but I don't think it's good
>>538793380Story, Gameplay, Music, general thoughts, ending spoilers. Now!
>>538793475>StoryIt doesn't dwaddle or waste your time like some other fatlus games, straight from point A to B. Focuses mostly on Asuka trying to save Satoshi but starts going off the rails with the demon civil war and Aeacus and stuff. So good start, starts getting meh in the middle then picks up in late disc-2, but weirdly the story never got boring, it was just how they spread out the filler stages. 6-7/10. >GameplayKind of typical. Unfortunately demons in the game are nearly useless, very few reasons to make one a unit and level it up; better off conducting it and using it as a summon. If you don't want to do that, the rag shop sells items that level them up for you, but you need gems which you can only get from negotiating. A weird thing about negotiating that I didn't know during any of my playthroughs is that, for certain demons, not choosing anything for like half a minute counts as an answer and the conversation will continue as if Asuka had said nothing in response. I've never done this myself. >MusicTwo people worked on it, apparently, and although I can't tell who did what there's some really obvious quality spikes. I know one of them is still making music. The soundtrack's okay but some songs are really atmospheric if that makes sense>general thoughtsI only started playing it because it was...le bad! But then I actually started taking it seriously kek. Seems like something happened during production that fucked it up and they had to go back and overhaul how the game looked in its entirety. I'd like to know exactly what that was but after the game's release Atlus tried sweeping it under the rug and the staff did no more interviews. The demon designer said they worked so hard on it.>ending spoilersI mean you can just find it on Youtube but I'll say one thing; I really like the detail that Satoshi and Sawaki become Ahriman while Asuka straight up dies and the Ahriman we see in ending 2 is LITERALLY Ahriman, not Asuka controlling his corpse.
>>538795126>find it on youtubeNO SPOILERS NOW! SPOONFEED MEEEE
>>538790452>Femboybro.>Cute face and big cock.>Later in the game is revealed to be the human form of Mara-chan.
I had a dream last night where Kaneko told me not to forget about Jack Frost's wife, then he shattered into pieceswhat does it mean bros
>>538795606Heeho-kun and Heeho-chan DLC? Maybe they have Heeho Jr. with them since he's his wife now?
>>538795606Hel will return in Devil Children Orange/Purple
Is Pokemon Mystery Dungeon Red Rescue Team a SMT game? Now wait, here me out. Japanese mythological beasts. Chaos Hero. (You). World is about to end. You're transported into a world where monsters rule. Monster Rancher
>>538795978>he'sThese threads are turning me gay, I meant she's*
>>538796189SMT games legally belong to Nintendo now so it's possible
>>538796191Susano-o is turning all the drinking water gay.
>>538795173OokayEnding 1 - Asuka kills Satoshi (never stated if this was in self-defense or he did it because he's becoming heckin' evil), decides not to go to the Makai to look for answers, so the portal closes and their journey effectively ends there. Big mistake, Satoshi becomes Ahriman, Asuka kills him again, the stage explodes and he wakes up in a forest and hallucinates Yggdrasil absorbing his brother. (I say hallucinate but it actually happened)Ending 2 - Goes to the Makai, kills the three leaders of the demon war, goes back to Aeacus and decides to become Ahriman. Ahriman kills all of his buddies and starts crying over their deaths. The guide actually clarifies that he's not crying because he's sad but because he's finally able to understand how fragile human life is. Then he makes a new contract before nuking the universe, which will reset the world back to before the big bang, and it's kind of implied that the events of Ronde will eventually play out again, whether exactly the same or with some differences, I don't know. When I scan the guide I'll go over it again.Ending 3 - Asuka doesn't reincarnate into Ahriman, so Sawaki randomly does. It comes completely out of left field but this was actually implied way earlier in the game, it's just so subtle and the game doesn't focus on it at all. The guide also says he did it because he wanted the power of the demons. What an ass. So Asuka kills him and Satoshi comes back to life, happy ending. This actually is completely unexplained even in the guide. He's just alive because he is. And it's explained there that even though Ahriman didn't nuke the universe this time, he eventually will.Then there's the true golden ending where Asuka kills Ahzura Mazda. That's it. You don't get a special cutscene or anything, just an item saying 'good job, you beat the superboss'. He's not that hard if you plan ahead but he does resist everything iirc
>>538796894didn't ask
>>538790452Increase the amount of demons that you can keep in the storage.
>>538796894thanks!
>>538790452>More Haunt interactions>More post-game content >The sidequests and your human companion's reactions to them were a neat idea, expand on that>Give me GUN back please>If they bring back the semi-open world gimmick they really gotta make the big city sections less of a pain in the ass to navigate>We've slowly begun moving away from Law/Chaos, keep doing that>More oni>Bring back weird factions like the Ishtar Shinja and the cults from Soul Hackers 2
>>538798495>We've slowly begun moving away from Law/Chaos, keep doing thatuh i think it's just because it's mimicking nocturne. i mean desu how would you want smt to be like while keeping the core of what smt mainline is but being completely different from law/neutral/chaos
>>538798858I mean we're pulling from all of mythology here, we can go back to the original scrapped plan for SMT V where we have a game about the anxieties and contrivances of the modern world and how they've warped human spirituality, we can do a "twilight of the gods" storyline, we can lean into what some of the non-mainline games have done and play around with the concept of alien life and beings that are outside the context of even the mythological creatures we ascribe supreme power to, we can dial in on the East-versus-West theme, or the consequences of reincarnation in a world where no one fears death because they know the karma cycle will just fix it in the end and with the advent of VR and advanced computing they can just re-download all their shed memories and knowledge. Hell, go back to the Devil Summoner/Soul Hackers well and lean hard into the noir theming, give me that good old Harry Dresden/John Constantine/Doctor Occult shtick. There's so much more that could be done with this concept than just a simple story about Law and Chaos.
>>538799239>some of the non-mainline games have done and play around with the concept of alien lifeheh tits and fighting every star in the universe. BASED. god i fucking love that game that will not be named. seriously best SMT game for real. but bro I was just thinking more of mainline is "mainline" for a reason. it's hard to pitch exactly what makes SMT mainline mainline but you can kinda tell what it is. it's why SJ is bunched into mainline even when it's not and something like devil summoner isn't. i mean what's your take on a supposed smt vi with the endings?
>>538799445I feel like at it's core the most reoccurring themes that appear in mainline, outside of the Law/Chaos dichotomy and the calamity cycle, are the ideas of change, how humans respond to it, how ideas and ideals change over time, and how the uncertainty and anxiety around change is exploited by malicious actors, whether it's criminals, religious movements, or ideologs. Keeping that in mind, I think a theoretical SMT 6 should lock in hard on this theming, and have endings focusing more on how we respond to the process of change - with nostalgia, with bitterness, with regret, with optimism. Change is inevitable, you can't stop it and you can't delay it for long, but maybe you can nudge the scales just a bit to make the world a bit more agreeable, or you can choose defeat and walk away, or you can accept your time is past and be a torchbearer for what comes after, or you can just say 'fuck it' and try to burn the house down on your way out the door. Something with a more personal connection and a more direct tie to those innate human fears of loss, of forgetting, of aging, and of changing than just the vague abstraction of Order and Disorder.
>>538659908Interesting that the Eden ship is a Tetrahedron
>>538799445>>538800427Would be interesting to go the Hindu route, since it’s all about change but also trying to be free from the stagnation of the world.
SMT x Hegel
>>538798858V still had alignments but it tried to do a new twist on them all. It's one of the best parts of the story itself.
>>538790214You are literally retarded.
>>538803416(you) just don't get it do you will keep giving him replies
>>538803247how can something that doesn't exist have parts...................
>>538804926It just is sometimes.
>>538799445>it's why SJ is bunched into mainline even when it's notOther than that one comment in a dev interview, what's the evidence that SJ was a spinoff? I know that seems like solid proof but afaik it would be one of just 2 megaten games titled "Shin Megami Tensei" in Japan that aren't "real" mainline SMT (other is debisama).Still I'm pretty sure that if it was meant as a spinoff they changed their minds since it was in the 25th SMT anniversary, but who really cares...
I'm almost more nervous about getting news because what if the new shit we get looks like shit? It's be easier just knowing we get nothing and then seeing if there are other games in the direct that would catch my interest. I still remember how that SH2 reveal was such a let down.
>>538806156You'll eat your soulless SMT1 UE5 slop remake and enjoy it
>>5388063671 is so bare bones as it is, there is no way they could make a UE5 version of it that I wouldn't find entertaining. More so worried about an IV remake that gets the SJR treatment instead of just being packaged with IVA or VV dlc that looks shitty and not worth whatever money they're asking. And then there is the potential of Persona undermining any potential for news. 60 minutes is a long time to sit and wait for nothing.
I wasn't around for SH2, was it that bad? It does look more like a persona game from the few screenshots I saw. Is the gameplay alright at least?
>>538666854I'm making a drawing of her right now, I think I'll be done by Sunday.
>>538806767The sneak peaks made it look so much better than what it was. They had dogshit looking live action Ringo put on a performance. Then they showed the gameplay which right off the bat showed demons weren't summoned, just upgrades and the shitty GUMPs. And I woke up at 5am to watch it excited.
>>538806845Please draw male Abdiel too. Fix Doi's erroneous gender bend slandering Milton's work.
>>538806661DESU if they rerelease IV with no real changes I'm gonna be pissed. Obviously I don't want shitty new endings and a forced remake girls but that game NEEDS to be fixed up.
>>538807179Gameplay fixes sure, like making IV's gameplay the same as IVA but that's it. They shouldn't fuck with much else. Otherwise it's SJR all over again. I'm not horribly invested in IV's story because I never liked it much but I still don't want to see that.
>>538807084OK, I'll start him when I'm finished with femzai.
>>538806767I liked it
>>538807301Godspeed. (pun intended)
>>538807301After that can you bring out the best of both and do art of Femzai with female Abdiel :)
>>538806767Combat is good, over all I enjoyed it even with the smallish Compendium. The Stack system is fun and Sabbaths are very satisfying though once you learn how to work it the thrill wears off a bit, similar to Downs and Press Turns. Combat does have much more in common with Persona 5 than IV or V/VV so if that's a turn-off you'll wanna keep that in mind. Elements are also pretty simplified.The story and sidequests are all okay good, but the pacing is kind of weird and the latter is much more interesting than the former imo. It's got the same kind of issue Persona 5's Story/Momentos had where the plot makes it seem like you have to go go go go go and you're racing against the clock but the actual game wants you to slow down and talk to all these random NPCs and care about their stories. On that note, just about everyone from the random henchmen loitering around the Summoner side of town, to random NPCs on the street, to the shopkeepers has some kind of running story arc going, usually related to some regret they have from their past, something they latched onto to give themselves hope, or some failed dream they never achieved. Bonding with teammates is the actual meat and potato of the game, Saizo was probably the strongest character with his whole "hard-boiled detective never gets the girl" shtick but Milady and Iron Mask and the shadier side of Yatagarasu coming up were interesting plot points. But when it's time for the actual plot divorced from your companions and their issues, it's a pretty generic doomsday special.The Soul Matrix is basically Momentos, and I mean that in both a good and a bad way. The times when it gives you a storybeat or tells you something about a party member's past or future are interesting and good at hooking your interest, but other than that it's an endless string of "collect 20 bear asses."Over all 7/10 game, it really feels like it should've been a few hours longer but eh, I didn't expect the same love mainline gets.
>>538807414Sure.
>>538807482I was expecting you guys to shit on it a bit more. May give it a try at some point. Thanks
>>538808318You can beat the game pretty handily in about 14 to 20 hours if you don't care about NG+ content or filling out the compendium, so even if you end up not caring for it you're only out a few hours a night or a couple long weekends at worst.
>>538808318The main thing that will get to you is how monotonous the dungeons are. But if it doesn't bother you it's definitely playable. Me personally I got really bored with it.
>>538808515It does look pricy for a 14 to 20 hours game
>>538808750That I'd say is the biggest downside the game has. The price point is not equal to the size of the game at all. Best to wait for a sale.
It's VV DLC, IV rerelease/remake, EO, or nothing.And it feels like out of all those options, nothing is the best bet.
>>538810097Persona 5-2
>>538810097Revelations the demon slayer HD-2D
>>538750807I've only played the game on consoles, so I don't really follow the modding scene. God I hope so, though.
Catholicism - LawEast Orthodox - NeutralProtestantism - Chaos
>>538813571Jail, NOW
>>538813705You cannot unrape the asahi https://litter.catbox.moe/i7qwx4i7ks4szggz.png
what is the highest IQ smt game
>>538815123VVV
>>538815123Puzzle Boy
>>538815123Nocturne... because of puzzle boy.
What is the lowest IQ smt game
>>538816001Nocturne
>>538815123>>538816001if... to both
>>538816232if what??
>>538800072Cute bird
>>538816503there's a fanfiction on ao3 called that if you want to know...
>>538815123thirding puzzle boy
>>538817780well now you have to tell us
>>538818271https://archiveofourown.org/works/43274557?view_adult=true
If they added mini games to VV, what should it be?>fighting game you can 2v2 with Aogami and he's a commentator>high or low>roulette >Puzzle Boy 2>Devil Busters 2
What does he mean by this?
>>538819532Dump your current nav and take along the best one, duh.
>>538818374As a warning it’s a Hazama yaoi rape fic, with hazama as the raped
>>538820938Warning?
>>538820386Wait he's not joining my party and is a navigator? How do I choose him though instead of the flying onahole?
>>538821408Not everyone wants to read hazama getting ass blasted???
>>538821558You have to beat Nuwa and come back later. Annoying I know.
>>538821887Speak for yourself.
>>538818562If they added an arcade machine or let you play the console relics and it's a Devil Buster game I would coom. Never add Puzzle Boy back to SMT.
>>538818562Something that allow you to play with/against your demons like the mahjong mini game in Raidou.
i miss the days when posting gay shit here wasn't taken seriously. people just joked it off and didn't care and almost everyone was chill.
AND THEY SAY THAT A HERO CAN SAVE US
>>538824073Only post things that are hot Simple as that
>>538824567but hazama is hot
>>538824618Proof?
>>538822023I see now. Thanks.
>>538824801a lot of people want to fuck him
I have a modded 3DS now and thinking about playing IVA soon. People say the gameplay is better than IV. How so? And is it a sequel or an expansion a la P4G/P5R etc
>>538824073Some people like to be edgy I guess. Though this is one of the more chiller generals I've seen. I like it here and have a lot of fun
>>538825060it's a sequel set in an alternate timeline. as for gameplay changes:https://megamitensei.fandom.com/wiki/Shin_Megami_Tensei_IV_Apocalypse#Gameplay_Changes
ruffling Jonathan's hair!
ENTER
>>538824851ANON NO DON'T TAKE IPPON-DATARAHIS VOICE LINES ARE INEXPLICABLY LOUDER THAN EVERYTHING ELSE IN THE GAMEOH GOD HE'S ALREADY GONE DEAF, IT'S TOO LATE, HE CAN'T HEAR ME
remember that one anon who wanted to fuck the maid ippon-datara
>>538831904I haven't gotten that far yet.
>>538832197>clang>clang>clang>clang>YEEeeeESssSSS>clang>clang>clang>OUUGHAHHHHHHAHAHHAHHHHHHhhhh
>>538831904It was funny at first.Then it quickly became annoying as fuck.
Mabumpu
>>538748834SJ2Yu-gi-oh card like gameRaidou AI gameEramegaten
>>538840074>Yu-gi-oh card like gameElaborate
>>538840460This one:https://jab-lao.itch.io/shin-fangame-tensei
>>538824913NTA but>Taking Backloggd.com reviews seriously when they're either shitposts or long ass essays that could be easily trimmed downAlso 2/3 of those users in that screenshot are well-known shitposters. Please try again with your weird fetish for some 90s SNES character from a spin-off title.
SMT VI anytime soon
Time to make your final peace with no new news.
>>538842308>Dark Magician GirlPicked up
Well at least I know why they bumped the run time of this direct to 60 minutes....
SMT Tennis
>ports and sports It's over
Wait it's going on right now?
>due to unfortunate circumstances all the SMT protagonists have been turned into BABIES
>>538844806do the heroines also become babies or are they the mommies
>Mortal Kombat with no gorewhy would anyone buy this
>>538845710I'd imagine they just have a gore on or off setting.
>>538845710For real, how am I supposed to jerk off now?
I just find it hilarious that mainstream just care about nintendo first party and we're just looking for the janky third party stuff.
>>538846357When you grow up BING BING WAHOOing, its the last thing you want to do as a 30 yo
HOLY FUCK JACK BROS WON!!!
20 minutes left....You don't think that leak that said "3 games with 7 in the title" meant EO for the last one do you? Honestly I can't think of what it might be though.
we made it jack bros
Jack bros...
TURN ON THE DIRECT, ANY STREAMTHEY JUST DROPPED JACK BROS 2!!!!!!!!
Holy shit Jack Bros DID win. That's news right?>nintendo switch 2 segmentThis is it.
>>538846862virtual boy wario land is a very good game btw
>>538846862>This is it.pffftttt
>>538846357>>538846491Kill yourselves joyless gay faggots
>they metroid prime 4 open worldyou've gotta be fucking kidding me
>>538847112Listen here, child. I play Nintendo games like Mario Party and Mario Kart with my gf and her friends, and I play real adult games like SMT with my gay boyfriend in his Chaos dungeon. Its just a balance of two lives.
>>538847259based
>>538847259Nanashi is that you
>>538847257Breath of the Metroid
>>538847257Enjoy that big empty desert
>still no VV upgrade>Switch 2 upgrade section is probably overWelp
>>538847594I keep telling you guys to stop expecting shit
>>538847851Jack Bros won, fuck you.
am i a fake dragon quest fan if i love dragon quest but I only played 1 (NES), dropped 2, 3 (SFC), DNF4 (got to the part where everything comes together), dnf5 (got to the part right after you save your wife), didn't play 6, only visit the first actual area in 7, didn't play 8, DNF9, didn't play 10, dnf11 and dropped at Act 3 (not for the reason you think, it's more I got insanely salty that S got announced in the middle of my playthrough)
NEW DANGANRONPA YESSSSS
>>538848052The OG DQ 1 and 3 are the most important jrpgs ever made, if you've beaten both, I'd say you're clear.
>>538848232Danganronpa 2 got a remake before SMT 1 or 2. You can't make this shit up lmao
>>538848232ngl, i'm really only excited for that, DQ7, and starforce. People shit on DR but it was good pulp fun. honestly people only get mad because of the fanbase + how dogshit DR3 (the anime) was.
Rate the directI'm feeling a strong 2
DMC4 and 5 when
it's ogre
>that city jump scared me for a second because I thought it might be MikadoLOL
>>5388487287/10 purely for DQ7. I honestly don't get why mainstream gets so horny for nintendo first party. i'm still laughing at fucking pokemon quest builders.
>>538848886>Fire Emblem: NIgger EditionGrim
She's a hag now
>>538847257I think I'll skip on MP4.
>>538661057So what are these games do you think?
Ok now that the direct is over and I finally post, definitively, my feelings.What the FUCK are they working on?Why did Doi and Yomori drop VV and run and haven't said shit since?What happened to that IV remake rumor years ago?Where the fuck is Etrian Odyssey?Where are the fucking games????
>>538848970As expected from treehouse
>>538848728Same a 2, with a side of "I still don't have a good reason to buy a switch 2" on the side.
>>538849580>Where are the fucking games????Not on the Switch, that's for sure.
>>538849735Nintenbros...
I'm sure the games are fine, but why does nintendo direct advertise these games so....bad lmao. In a way it's a good thing they show raw footage but it's just like "raw footage" + a energetic guy commentating like he's talking to kids. There's not even really much in the raw footage to even say. It's just a weird way to market things.
>>538850008Nintendo are for kiddies
Reminder that in that one interview they did for VV, Doi said:>I'm looking forward to when I can say more at a later dateHaha... ha... Just hold on a little longer!!!
alright what's SMT VV Final going to look like?
>>538850738VV art book exclusive to Japan at TGS for 50,000 yenLET'S GOOOOOOOO
wait hold on, what's the 3 7s then?7 integrade7 reimagined7 ??? (vi7age?)
>>538851560>wait a minute that number
>>538851560yes
>>538848728I got some Monster Hunter Stories 3 with the reveal Wilds monsters are in so I'm content.I would be hyped for DQ7 but the art style just looks off.I'm fully anti-Nintendo now with that shitty new patent so I couldn't care less about their first party stuff now. Anything I am interested in I can just get on PC.
>>538851560resident evil 7
>>538848728a 2 as well, im ashamed that the game im the most interested in is another release of dr2
>>538852178dq7 bro????
>>538852264dq is boring and i hate the music and im not too fond of the chara design im sorry...
>>538852358better hope i dont find you
>>538852264I like DQ7 but their faces looked super goofy for some reason. Also I don't know how enthused I am to play it because I played the 3DS port to death and I have other games I want to play.
>>538852006>the only thing Wilds is good for is adding more playable monsters for the JRPG spin off monster collecting gamepottery
>>538850738I really wish I knew what Doi meant by this and why it's been over a year since he said it.
>>538853358Get those ugly shits away from stories. Frontier is better for roster padding.
>>538853908gen 4 had so many good designs
>no SMT newsreeeeee
>>538854361JACK BROS
>>538854361hey man we got news, you can play jack bros on your switch
>>538854361Fake fan
When are they going to port SMT IV to a console
VV fags, IV fags... we're all just in this together hoping for a crumb....
>>538854728tomorrow
Strange journey Reimagined
Ronde Donda
Kyuyaku KyuyakTWO.
SMT 3 Nocturner
I'm kneeling to Jack Bros fans.
>>538849580Too busy remaking P4 and P5 prease undastand
>>538852006>muh patentso entirely performative reasons
Finally started persona 1 past the intro after sifting through some tech issues with crunchy noises and cpu speed.The combat is kind of confusing, especially the negotiation which I *think* the goal is to get all four emotions to meet in the middle but I still don't know. Some of the npc sprites look like characters that walked out of Titanic: The animated movieStory so far is interesting, wouldn't be surprised if the game pulled a "You're in a dream" twist with how surreal the game feels like the same doctor working on every block, and the shopkeepers being the exact same between two extremely nearby shopping centers. I could be wrong but it feels like a deliberate choice rather than simply saving dev time otherwise they wouldn't have been given portraits.
>DQ remake by modern squeenixWhy would I be excited? They censored III
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VNV5zBxV-lQhitto pointo kaifuku suru nara
>>538856687I didn't buy a Switch 2 so I already have no investment in Nintendo product anymore.Their continued shittiness just makes me more sure of that decision.
>>538856937Based
>>538856748>NegotiationYou need to max Eagerness and ask for a spell card, sometimes picking the same option will get the same result
DO NOT TAKE SHIN MEGAMI TENSEI NAME IN VAIN FATLUS
>>538857675Shin megami tenseisux lmao
>>538857009they were doing far worse things than that patent
>>538857675shit smegma tense
>>538857675I was just about to post this lmao
Suck my tits
>>538856748I hope you're playing with the PSX music patch
>>538858312no way fag
There is still hope for news!In the next Kirby Air Riders direct!
>>538858660kirby air riders ft. jack frost riding on decarabia
>>538856167https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dWEpdbPc-iw
>>538858320I was trying to get that and the hd patch to work but for some reason the only way to get things running smoothly is vanilla in Vulkan. Not sure if it's a linux thing, a steam deck thing, or what.
Bring back canned demons.
>>538858660>>538858660IMAGINE the alternative costumes
>>538858820Sigh, I'd actually enjoy it. It would be fun beating the shit out of Frost on a race track.
They're bringing back Jack Bros because Jack Bros 2 is going to be a mini game in the VV dlc.
>>538860083It's because Atlus is getting a smash rep, and it's going to be the jack brothers with a gimmick similar to Pokemon trainer.
>I'm Jack Frost! My power is ice, Ho!>I'm Pyro Jack! My power is fire, Ho!>I'm Jack the Ripper, I rape women and kill them, Ho!
>>538860083>>538860664Holy Cope
>>538860886murder-rape is the most powerful element
>>538848970Saw the trailer.>Adult SothisAnd now I will never buy this game.
>>538659908Can you call yourself a SMT fan if you havent played Jack Bros.?
>>538862308You can only call yourself a fan if you played it on the original virtual boy
>>538860886>I'm Hairy Jack, and you just know, Ho!
>>538862529keep Asahi away from him
>>538861279>hag sothiswhy would they do this? it doesn't even make sense, sothis was already a lolibaba
kek fire emblemfags got blacked
In retrospect, Massacre route Asahi isn't a true Heroine because the Megami you Tensei isn't really her, it's just some homunculus that looks and acts like her based on YOUR memories.
>>538864890We're gonna have the "what qualifies a heroine" debate again?
>>538866441Nah, I just wanted to post a lukewarm take.
>>538866728That and it's also optional to pick her at all.
>>538864890wait isn't it her literal soul though? yes there's some brainwashing though.
>>538863739You know why but the the pill will be difficult to swallow for some.
>>538863905Even worse, they got the P5 treatment of having ONE GAME being milked for years to come. No variety, no other games, no merchandise of characters like Rhajat. It's just fucking 3H and nothing else. I thought SMT had it bad due to SMT V, but FE got ass fucked into oblivion and won't recover until maybe 2035 at best.
there's so much doomposting in the game industry but am i the only one sane left? feels like everyone is so political about shit "waa they keep making sequels to this, they keep remaking that", yeah but ahem are they good? that's the real question.
>>538867908Her soul was eaten by shesha. Shes gone gone
>>538868583I don't care if they're good. If video game companies hire retarded far left ideologues who want me dead then I don't buy their games.
>>538868640well no, dagda can revive people in shesha. he uses the rest of your friends souls to build the new universe or something.
>>538868838>video game companies hire retarded far left ideologues who want me dead what specifically do they want you dead for? LOL
>>538868838>hire retarded far left ideologues who want me deadYou have unironic terminally online brain rot.
>>538848728For me it's like a 6 carried by Fire Emblem but if next Direct also sucks that'll be a problem.
>>538849580>What happened to that IV remake rumor years ago?Rumors are just that: rumors.
>>538869798Are you really this broken up about Kirk? Jesus christ anon.
>>538869302>video game companies hire retarded far left ideologues who want me deadanswer the fucking question dumbass. what do they want you dead for?
>>538870060So yes. I don't like to say touch grass but you honestly need it.
>>538869649>>538869798>>538869882>>538870025>>538870060Fuck off back to >>>/pol/
Thank you based mod
To be honest an SMT that's sorta like FF7 or FF8 that has you go through political assassinations and just general government and societal talk would be pretty interesting.
>>538868081Are you retarded, this looks like a new game set in the same world like a lot of previous FE titles, like FE6 and FE7, except this time around it doesn't look to be set in Fodlan at all. The gameplay looks different too.
>>538870425Miyazu tried to kill the Prime Minister.
>>538870536Thorman and Ozawa section in SMT1 was neat.
So are these 4 sega games then? Are there even 4 sega games announced and unreleased right now at all? Isn't there like maybe 2 max?
>>538871716Sonic CD RemasteredSonic and Mario at the Olympic Games collectionPersona Q1 RemasteredSonic Frontier DLC
>>538871716- rgg studios (stranger than heaven and/or yakuza kiwami 3)- some western/indie game(s) published by sega in asia- some mobile games (sonic rumble? idk)
>>538868850nigga he literally says its her based on Nanashi's memories
>>538873110with her literal soul
>>538873154Um, no sweetie.
>>538873154>>538873110yo let's chill im watching the video and dagda mentions both points. I can't read japanese so I don't know what is really being done.
>>538873448I mean it's hard to say since they obviously left it vague because they can't write for who you specifically picked.
honestly im just banking tgs for powapro to finally come westside.
>>538875776for what?
>>538875873powapro
I want PM Koshimizu to fill my holes
>>538873780going back to this note (idk where the other anon went), i think it would be kinda neat to have more of an extended massacre route if Asahi was your goddess. I still don't know HOW much brainwashed (you)r goddess is though.
>>538877273How did he know?
>>538848728FE and MP 4 look good, might get Fatal Frame remake. Everything else was Groudon.
>>538877575DQ???????????????????
>>538877616DQ 7 is worst DQ.
>>538877715all dq is great but wouldn't dq1, dq2, dq6, at least be worse?
>>538868850Dagda can revive people who still have their souls to use like nanashi. He makes homunculi using Nanashi’s memories and makes them subservient as seen whenever you choose a goddess. Asahi is dead and soul is unretreivable because it’s used to create the cosmic egg, and the rest of nanashi’s friends’ souls are used as fuel for the new universe. The goddess is just a husk-there is no soul in there since it’s either being used as fuel or converted into the CE
>>538878376but huh how does she come back in friends?
>>538878447I cannot explain that to you, because that baffles me too. Best I can say is that with Danu’s power she just made an exact copy of her, soul and all since she can easily do that kind of thing as seen with Dagda, only with a few adjustments. Original asahi is dead but there’s a copy for nanashi to feel happy over.
>>538879608i like my interpretation better in which dagda/danu actually uses the soul but again writers didn't go too much into it since you can pick many goddesses
>>538879681Damn you bonds route for being this wobbly about your soul bullshit
>>538880028well massacre too. IVA didn't really fix 4's curse of being insanely rushed after the alignment split. at least IVA felt better about it.
>>538880193Wish apocalypse was a lot of things, especially with the proto stuff and the novel Kaneko wrote, but at least it ended decently, weird Stephen inclusion aside
>Ichigaya in SMT IV is where a device that can literally destroy the universe is locatee>Ichigaya in Persona 5 is where you can go fishingWhat the fuck
>>538881215is the collab or some of the samples done yet already holy shit im actually doing nofap until its done
>>538881370>collabholy shit my hornybrain is overshadowing my spelling brain.commision not collab
>>538881363>you can go fishing and there’s just a device that can destroy the universe underneath your feet Yaldabaoth you’re such a hack lol>>538881370I won’t get anything until maybe next Tuesday broseph
>>538881993AHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
>>538856748set texture filtering to nearest, if you haven't already
No matter how many times I play V. I really don't get how it lines with III and how exactly the world works in it. I mean from a rough note I get there's a magic griffin (the throne) that allows you to recreate the world how you like. I get that Tokyo got "conception-fied" (although I don't get how that works with the rest of the world). I get that demons are split from "demons" and then "knowledge" (aka humans) and demons are trying to find their knowledge so they can henshin. but I can't tell if it's just me but the more I think about V's world the more I'm kinda like how in the fuck does this all work together, this shit makes no sense. Like it can't really be 3 sequel because there's a bunch of inconsistencies, what happened to this world's kagatsuchi? How in the fuck can MC combine with BOTH Aogomi and Tsukiyomi? Why the fuck is Susano-o a cyberclone and nobody else? What the fuck is going on OUTSIDE of Tokyo. For having a Nahabino war for the throne, there's not a lot of Nahabinos you actually face. Why would they bring up the idea of OTHER Bethels if they're not even going to do anything with it? I could handwave the rest of the world in III or something because they didn't mention it, but 5 clearly mentioned a world outside Tokyo and you're not even going to do anything with it? I'm just genuinely confused on what V is.
>>538883191There are people who staunchly believe V and III are the same world despite the inconsistencies in timeline because III and V share geological locationsAnd it's also said it game that the fiends came from another world, so that means Lucifer and Demi would too. Some people believe this means the world they came from before coming to see Demi in III not that they just traveled to V's world from III. I can list all the points and counter points but that would be a huge post.All your other questions are just world lore and most of them are answered in game.>The 3 divine siblings were always artificial and are made out of Izanagi's essence that he gave to the Japanese to help them defend themselves>Tsukuyomi used the data Aogami collected while being fused to the MC and copied it. Susano-o and Tsukuyomi overlapping is also a mythological reference because it's believed they used to be the same god at some point.>Everything outside of Tokyo is fine, the conception was stopped before it went past Tokyo. Mastema confirmed that in VV when it was only eluded to in the original game.>There are not a lot of Nahobinos because the Condemnation was in place. Anyone that fused too early turned into a Miman. They are all your Nahobinos.>They did some things with the Bethel chapters mentioned but it's just one of those wasted bits of world lore.
>>538883191Hell, I'm back to the Sahori arc again and I'm just thinking, what the fuck was even the point of this. This doesn't add anything to the overall plot and it's not like Tao gets any character development from this. you know because she dies and then megami tensei'd but she doesn't even really feel like the same person after the megami tensei. I know CoV made this story point a lot less what the fuck? but it still bothers the shit outta me that they even decided to include it in CoV and still not do anything remotely interesting because AGAIN tao dies and gets megami tensei'd
>>538884338>Susano-o and Tsukuyomi overlapping is also a mythological reference because it's believed they used to be the same god at some point.Ahh, I see. I still call REAL BULLSHIT since they are two clearly distinct characters in the game but whatever I'll handwave it. I don't mind further discussion, I'm in the middle of my re-playthrough so I may not have all the details connected but honestly V's plot does feels kinda weird. It's abstract enough where they can go "don't think about it too much" but it also tries to lead you thinking more than it is.
>>538884372>sahori You’d think Sahori would be the chaos rep and get more attention but nah we got Yoko. What even IS Sahori’s character supposed to be when she just dies in both versions of the game and does nothing for the characters?
Reposting from /pg/ since you guys seem to know more about technical stuff:I've been messing around with the emulations settings for Revelations: Persona. My biggest remaning problem is the audio quality during the battle against pandora. It sounds like it's being played through a filter or in another room. The reason why I'm assuming it's not simply because of compression or whatever is because all other songs sound fine. It's just this one that sounds terrible. Does anyone know anything about this? Like, at all?
>>538870442My dude, it takes place in Fodlan or at least the same place since it's confirmed to be either a sequel or prequel to 3H events due to having Sothis.>The gameplay looks different too.It's just 3H gameplay again but with some new mechanics.The main issue is that Intelligent Systems is milking 3H hard and we're going to see nothing but entries from that specific universe for a very long time.
>>538884849look up a youtube video of the fight and see if the music sounds different
>>538884712Dude I'm still questioning why CoV is yet again take both two cakes and eat it. Like why even bother doing a new route if you're still going to end up with similar plot points and plot threads? This isn't like a sitcom tv show, you don't HAVE to go back to the status quo.
>>538885228Sounds roughly the samehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=66YKmR5-nQE&thttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uaavEDRrvjM&list=PL8Lu7lJfWvhZUI9fUpQ49bkqIxmM8_sBm&index=10
What's wrong with getting sequels of a popular entry? As long as it's not FF7 compilation tier.
>>538887048More often than not, it's something done for purely commercial reasons so the odds of them being good are low and there's the risk of them retroactively fucking up the previous game as a result.
>>538887336just pretend it doesn't exist like ff7 compilation. literal non issue
>>538887924>just pretend it doesn't existIt's hard to forget
>>538887924>just pretend it doesn't exist like ff7 compilationMost of the people who talk about FF7 nowadays will be about the remasters and not the OG game.Same shit with the Castlevania cartoon, while most people in gaming community will talk about the games, normalfags will be about the cartoon they watched on netflix.You cannot tell people to just ignore something when it makes a direct impact on public perception.
>>538888091but that one is actually good.>>538888341look for [THIS GAME ONLY] fans. the stragglers will understand and the ones that don't are the ones you didn't want to talk to anyways.
>>538884372>she dies and then megami tensei'd but she doesn't even really feel like the same personBecause she's doing like the original law hero did. The now classic:>go law>die>come back>get lobotomizedAnd she still gets that way in CoV it's just a little less. You get a "I'm still me!" blurb but her shift remains the same for the most part. It's supposed to be a contrast with Yoko because you can read about how she shifted into a goddess but nothing about her personality from before changed and she's still herself completely while Tao gets fucked.>>538884634>but it also tries to lead you thinking more than it isI actually like that a lot though. It uses parallels, and narrative foils other smt games rarely did. And I know people say the Susano-o myth use is boring in V but I'm happy to see his myth used in alternative ways because 99% of the time you see Susano-o in any media he's a thick headed aniki every single time. And to me that's boring.
>smtg talks about ff more than ffg does>>538888571nta. i don't exactly hate x2 but it had too many annoying minigames and that one ending being canon sucks and ruins the point of x
>>538888865Meh. I just treat it like DQ XI Act 3. It's just a golden epilogue. Let Yuna be happy damn bro. >>538888790I guess but it's sorta like "hey this doesn't really make sense", "acktually you can have like 5 different interpretation how this works" Personally, I hate Dark Souls storytelling so kudos to people who like it I guess. You miss one dialogue and a whole plot point just sounds like gibberish. (It's not as bad here though)
>>538889307>acktually you can have like 5 different interpretation how this worksIt depends VV explained a lot more about what the hell is going on than the original game did. Before VV almost all discussion was subtext analysis and people complaining that subtext is stupid over and over again. That and doom posting that V would never get a rerelease.
>>538889531Yeah, I'll see when I get to CoV replay. I still have >>538883191 in my mind while I'm going through CoC Sahori arc but thanks for giving me the answer for some of them.
>>538889307>Dark Souls storytellingi've only seen jokes that they use item descriptions to understand their story.but i don't hate having to piece together a puzzle to understand a fictional work. it can be fun sometimes. but i get that it's definitely not for everyone.
With my recent re-playthrough of the demon mod, and my original SMTV vanilla playthrough, I've played SMTV routes 5 times. I STILL don't understand what the purpose of the masked forms of the creation goddesses are in the story or why they exist. Standard trope logic would have the masked imagery imply some form of brainwashing but this isn't suggested or supported by any change in personality or dialogue delivery at all by either tao in vanilla or tao and yoko in vengeance. Tao is already brainwashed in COC and doesn't seem to act any more brainwashed or have any different motives at all when masked, and in COV despite both characters not being brainwashed at all they don't seem to show any signs of brainwashing when masked. When they click into the forms and click out they don't go "what happened? something came over me" or anything like that. And I mean, if it was great will brainwashing you'd expect yoko to not take that form and continue to help you since shes actively opposing the great will and mandala.It feels like they still didn't implement all the plot details they have in their lore bible somewhere, and the fact these forms have icons in the icon dump but were seemingly cut as actual playable units doesn't help.
>>538891030I complained about this earlier in the thread but the plot holes goes even deeper than your complaints. Their real names aren't even Creation goddesses, it's Matter Goddess and they only ever said this in the offical guide until VV where in ONLY the Japanese version Yoko calls herself this and never a creation goddess. To add onto this, Lucifer's new form is also called Matter. So that deepens just how confusing this is. I can make list of what we do know though at least>Yoko is a natural born goddess, Tao is not>Tao had the soul of one shoved into her making her so strong it killed Amaterasu>So Yoko is both her forms, the red snake one, and the Panagia form, she doesn't flip her personality>Tao however flips to the Goddess and somewhat herself between both forms (like being body walked)Also another thing cut out of the english version is that Yoko is a bunrei. It's a term used a lot in SMT to explain why you can find multiples of the same demon in the same place. Mastema explains that when Yoko had her powers sealed she created unknowingly created a bunrei of herself to cope with being forced to live as a human when she was never human to begin with. When her powers unsealed she absorbed the bunrei. Technically you can say there are 2 of her as well but she has full control of both.
Yoko's matter form is also fully animated for battle too. You can see if you mod her in, when she uses her signature move, the wings that she only has in their matter form are specifically animated to disassemble and reassemble https://youtu.be/kl8noI1iDo4?t=28Which means they cut these forms being playable in vanilla V, then considered adding them AGAIN for vengeance far along enough for them to animate Yoko's... only to cut them a SECOND TIME.
>>538895557I really hope if VV dlc is a thing it's about the Matter race. There are 3 characters in the Matter race and we don't know what Matter is.
You matter.
>>538896224Nothing really mattress.
They also cut playable aogami and human vkun. Vkun is lacking all but idle animations but aogami at least has a basic physical attack animation and a magic cast animation
>>538896224This would actually be a funny comic>Yoko to Tao: "You matter">Tao: "Aww Yoko, that's sweet. You matter too.">a very serious Yoko: "I know. I'm warning you."
When you really think about it, IV is closer to III than V.
>>538900692Messiah's in the Diamond Realm was a mistake. Unless you mean the Nocturne bar music remix that was fucking awful and still haunts me as one of the stupidest Nocturne references of all time.
>>538659908SMT if… is shorter than expected, it’s like a satyr play to the previous SMT games
I can't believe we get to rent fucking Jack Bros of all games in the year 2026.
>>538903420If's fun comes from replaying it on multiple different routes.
>>538900885I meant gameplay-wise, numbnuts
I miss Smirk.
>>538911907This is the most fucked up evil statement made in all of human history.
>>538914980Only if he's talking about IV
>>538844443Helloooooooo mega tennis!
>>538911907I still smirk whenever I hit a weakness in V am I autistic
i just saw the latest nintendo directwhere were the switch 2 updates for smt games..
>>538661245>mfw Charlie Kirk was killed and America is currently in chaos rn
>>538918372cute alice
>>538918372Alice a cute
it's so weird knowing the best written ideas for a chaos faction is from a tabletop game
>make fun of persona 4/5 being milked for years>constantly beg for more SMTV content years after it came out and already got more contentkarmic retribution
>>538922542i want SMT VI
>>538923140SMT x DS
>>538923140i want devil survivor 3
Do y’all fw Onions P5X?
>>538923353>P5Xthis game's hype died faster than a level 1 slimes
Earlier in the series, was magnetite ever elaborated on besides it giving form to demons? I ask because I'm reading Prayers right now and it says that magnetite exists in everything and it can either be harnessed as power or it can take over its host. Pretty much every SMT game I've played since Metaphor has given more insight on the "Atlus' Greatest Hits" setting of the game, but I wasn't expecting this spinoff manga to do the same. There was already an obvious connection between magnetite and magla, down to them being abbreviated in the same way. Did they ever explain magnetite working like this, though? Or is Metaphor actually drawing from Prayers of all things?
>>538923320I wanna rock!
Lawful ChaosChaotic LawCan it be done?
>>538928672I mean that's basically what the Yosuga reason is, isn't it?A world of strict hierarchy and immutable authority where only the pure are allowed to survive, with one's worth determined by their beauty and strength. It's why the angels were supporting Chiaki despite the whole "might makes right, grow stronger through conflict" thing being a typically Chaos-aligned gimmick.
>>538923539It's a shame too, since the main cast has much better designs than the P5(R) cast.
Stupid late night thought bump.Why does Aogami tensei, but the MC doesn't? And I'll explain what I mean.This is kind of about one bench conversation where Aogami says: "I know I rescued you, but achtually, you rescued me from my memory loss. It's a heckin' parallel!" meaning everything they do is a parallel and that's pretty obvious already. It's because of the Nahobino aspect but it's also Susano-o myth because they both believe they are each other's savior. Aogami sees the MC as his hero, and vice versa. And they follow this pretty well, at least in CoV, because they both rescue each other from a snake. But there is one thing that only Aogami does and that's the trademark tensei aspect you find sometimes between the hero and companion, at least it's been a trope since the first game. Aogami is basically Susano-o's reincarnation and he follows all the tropes with memory loss and all. The original died in battle and was remade as Aogami. So if we're following parallels, the MC should also be a reincarnation but this never happens. If it did happen they never say it. But there is one thing that might elude to it, and it's the MC's willingness to take Aogami's hand. Even Aogami comments on how he's surprised the MC even did it despite the risk and just assumed it was due to his overwhelming desire to live. But is that true? Aogami doesn't pose it that way, it's more like speculation. The MC hesitated leaving the tunnel and was about ready to give up. That doesn't strike me as someone with an extremely strong desire to live that's so strong he does something that could equally endanger him like taking the hand of a demon he's never seen before. And what's even stranger is that you can choose to confidently nod when you take his hand. Where is this confidence in Aogami coming from? Is is a plot hole? Is it something that should be explained?
why does str increase health as much as vit does in smt2
it's interesting to me how atlus almost reused the idea of a villain regressing to a child when beaten.but i suppose it makes sense since they got the idea from jungian psychology.>in every adult there lurks a child- an eternal child, something that is always becoming, is never completed, and calls for unceasing care, attention, and education. that is the part of the personality which wants to develop and become whole.p5 also just had many references to the prior persona games. nearly reusing an idea that was used in if... fits just fine.as for why they didn't go through with it, it probably just didn't fit the finished character.
>"We are the Shin Megami Tensei V: Vengeance"I clapped
the fatigue for the latest smt entry is at a all time high now
>>538918372tokyo game show for sure now no cap
>>538660582I've made barely any progress and the event is almost over. Oh well, still going to finish it.
>>538937754I did not read a single word of this
>>538928672i think desu2? >Lawful ChaosYamato's route where the world is controlled by merit. The better of a person you are, the more power and control you have in the world.>Chaotic LawRonaldo's route, communism yo! Everyone is all equal and has freedom.
Narumi dies in Raidou 3! Hee ho!
>>538962257it reads like an AI journalist post
>>538963647Thanks for taking the plunge. To be fair I did skim it for a second and when I noticed "Aogami" I just knew this shit isn't worth anyone's time to read.
>>538963214just fuse him with a demon and he'll be fine
>>538963832that's where I stopped reading as well kek
>>538963214I can't stand him but I'd feel a little bad...
>>538964564Really? I'm the complete opposite. I love Narumi but the thought of him dying is really funny to me and I don't know why. He would have some Elvis Presley tier death. This man's death would not be normal
>>538963214Just use Recarm bro
>>538937754I'll read it. Your complaint isn't new. There were complaints about this since the original release. VV addressed it but also didn't so it was pointless, kek.
ngl I think we're going to need more structured /smtg/ plays. OP you're doing a great job but it's more of I think we're losing steam because we're jumping games in the series all over the place. we're going from like 1-4-2 to possibly mt2 next?
>>538975585It's what happened last time too. I don't know how to fix it either.>>538972734Probably like with the MC being a delinquent it's eluded to but never explained. You'll only find out about it whenever the dev materials get released. No one would have realized he crushes his bag otherwise even though you can see it in the game. His bag is on screen for literal seconds at a time.
>>538975921I'd say we just go with order. Maybe we start with a spinoff series to "reset"
>>538975921I think the games might also be switching too frequently but other anons will have to give their opinions on that
Does this game get better as it progresses? I've just done the first demon world dungeon part and I'm not really feeling like it will be good. It piles on lots of stat mechanics and the combat seems like it will be repetitive. I'm playing on hard mode.
>>538978146The game always had a slow start but the remake makes it slower because you can access demon fusion like two hours in or something like that, I don't remember.Because of that it takes a while to get rolling since fusion is a major mechanic that allows you to get absurd power spikes. There is also sword fusion that will give you more personal skills and those are also absurdly powerful. I'm not sure if you'll enjoy the rest of the game but since you have it you can play until you get to fusing to see if you'll like it.Also the enemies are spongy until you get your fusions rolling. Fused demons are busted in this game.
>>538978146I may be a little bit biased as I really like the Raidou games, and enjoyed the remaster. The combat gets pretty easy once you get the hang of it. You can craft three different types of weapons (sword, spear, axe) for slightly different fighting styles. Combat feels a lot easier than original and Raidou 2I really enjoyed the combat in the remaster, but then again I'm a huge fan of mindless hack-n-slash and musou games so that might tell you what you want to know lol
new cycle>>538981316>>538981316>>538981316
