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Previous Threads
>>538587175
>>538484763
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As proven by last thread
Hornet is stronger than the knight BY A LOT
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the high halls gauntlet is too much for me i think im done. i did all hollow knight content except for godhome and this is harder than all of that.
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I heard that alchemist has a another quest. how to unlock it?
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>>538689809
???
No? Silksong is harder because Hornet is weaker.
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>>538689940
oh and that getting the witch more mossberries upgrades the charm. big if tru.
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I feel the big act 2 gauntlet is designed is around having a NPC but a LOT of people are getting there with 0 help.
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>>538689667
>>538680195 the game would be a hundred times better if almost every enemy didn't have contact damage and I would die on this hill so many of them have incredibly good telegraphed attack animations that are completely pointless because you just take 2 heart damage from touching their left toe i'm genuinely surprised there's no trinket that just allows you to do contact damage by charging into them considering hornet's fucking name
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>>538689962
the real question is: could Silksong Hornet defeat the radiance? i'm not talking lore wise, i'm just saying you get put into the boss fight. are you winning... or are you dying like a dog?
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why does "adds" refer to "summons" and what's a gauntlet? learning some new words thanks to this general.
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>>538690241
it's probably shorthand for something like "additional enemies" or something. it's probably an RPG or MMORPG term, if I had to guess
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>>538690197
Lore wise no but you could put base hornet in there and eventually someone would beat radiance... I think, there might be some double jump locks, but in that case end game hornet could.
>>538690241
Adds is a term from MMOs, it's short for additional enemies.
Gauntlet is basically when you're stuck in a room with waves of enemies without any breaks. Hence "gauntlet". Like running the gauntlet.
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>>538690241
adds is just a short way of saying additional enemies, more useful for mmo's where you might want quick and easy co-ordination with others
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I dont fucking get it, I just watched vinny vinesauce first try bird arena when i gave up on it, is that what its like when you've been playing sides rollers since you were 5 years old? its extremely difficult for me to hit anything above me or at an above angle
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>>538689809
Hornet is neither stronger gameplay nor lore wise. Especially lore wise.
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>Bilehaven
Please tell me there's a bench somewhere here between here and the boss.
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>>538639945
>>The room above this one has a way to disable the spiders forever
How does that work? Do you need the double jump or am I retarded?
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>>538690559
He plays a lot of these types of games, yes. Don't be too down on yourself, you will learn with time.
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>>538690559
Watch one of the speedrunners casual first playthroughs if you want to feel like a casual.
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>>538689940
late game thing, come back later if its not available
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>>538690197
Gameplay wise, yeah, the Radiance isn't that hard.
Wanderer Crest + Thread Storm is a weaker version of the Knight's up hit and Abyss Shriek.
Lorewise, no, she's doomed.
Technically speaking, Hornet shouldn't gain Silk on hit there, so that might be an issue if such a fight were "canon".
Then again, Hornet gains Silk on hit from things not actually associated with Silk, like the Act 3 Heart bosses.
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Is this some place that unlocks EVEN later or am I missing something obvious.
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>>538690559
its what happens when you're a 40 year old man that doesn't want to play a 50 hour game so they rush it like a maniac
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They put so much effort into act 3 holy shit
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Still thinking about that Witch crest quest. For pervert reasons.
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>>538691267
The escape sequence is a masterpiece
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no more spears, will. i've had enough of your shenanigans.
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>>538690670
There is one hidden in the the bottom right like 3-4 screens from the boss.

>>538690775
You need the double jump.
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The difficulty curve in this one is very satisfying. I feel like the game gets progressively easier as I get better
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>>538692013
The game gets easier as I give up on my principles and use tools
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>>538692013
Act 2 also seems easier because the game massively opens up once you get the hookshot, so you can really roid yourself up before any major challenges.

>>538692093
The best tool in the game is the poison one and thats act 1.
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>>538691516
that quest alone accounts for at least 3 fetishes
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steel soul mode? more like poison tool spam mode
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spend like 3 hours on the act 2 gauntlet and still couldn't do it. not really having fun anymore, i'm done. this is the hardest "soulslike" i've ever played. crazy how shit and weak hornet is compared to the knight
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>>538692174
More like "pause and quit at 2 masks" mode
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>was healing
>boss enters second phase
>the heal didn't count
absolute bullshit
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>>538692413
Just spam tools like the tacks or sawblades or cogflies against the double minibosses while you wallhop back and forth across the room. Or go get double jump and more powerups. Double jump lets you disable the silkmaidens.
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>>538692567
i have double jump. it doesnt help, its a slog to get to the double miniboss and then i just get murdered very quickly.
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can you do the twisted child (beating grandmother silk while cursed) ending in act 3 or does it have to happen in act 2. does not completing the quest and thus not getting witch crest lock me out of getting the last eva upgrade where you get silk resting at a bench?
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>gaming journalists are giving the game rave reviews
>4channers are complaining its too hard
Pretty funny
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I found the Prince Praying mantis in the castle in act 2 twice after I freed him. Can I get a hint as to where he is in act 3? I assume I need to find him.
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>>538692651
only act 2
you can still get the crest in act 3
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It suddenly occurs to me that I should probably worry about points of no return. Is there one coming up?

>>538692413
Which one?
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>>538692761
around the greymoor area
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>>538692686
I literally only read visual novels and the game is fine for me, really fun to play. I wonder if the people complaining are just boomers in their 40s with early dementia.
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It's kind of sad watching Sherma have a crisis of faith in his citadel encounters. Poor lad.
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>>538692651
You have to do it act 2. Eva rewards are tied to how many memory lockets you use, not crest unlocks to my knowledge. Maybe the final binding one requires all the crests though.

>>538692761
Check out the edges of Greymoor for anything suspicious.
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>>538692805
high halls
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>>538692805
yeah, finish all what you need to now
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How do I beat this plasma possessed dude, I don't have the vial tool anymore cuz that guy died.
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>>538692805
No, there is only one point of no return and you will likely know it.
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>>538692767
so im at the end of act 2. got the first non ending. i have 8 masks, all tools that i can get, and have silka nd song completed and am ready to enter act 3. i have twisted bud in my inventory. should I go ahead and get infected and kill grandmother 1 more time for the ending/achievment? am I locked out because I completed silk and song before I did so?
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>>538693027
you can still bind her with A instead of using the thing to trap her and go to act 3
there are 2 options when you beat her
after you go to act 3 it's over though
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>>538692145
It's starts with forced tentacle infestation. Stops to do some intense pain play in the middle and in the end she doesn't even get rid of the tentacles, just tames and domesticated them, changing it to consentacles. I really hope that there is at least a little art of the fact that witch crest unlocked Hornet is in fact a tentacle monster.
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>>538693143
so 100% I should get the cursed achievement, reload, cleanse, then move to act 3?
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>"finish" the game
>forced bad ending hornet, just did it because
>doesn't show the completion percentage
>no tips on what I need like "go help people!" or something
this game is made to be beat with a guide, so many way too hidden things
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>>538693245
yeah
also make sure to fight shraka before going since it's missable too
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in the base ending hornet becomes a god right
that's bad....because...?
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>flea canival
>out of nowhere abyss shrieks in the background
Shit spooked me wtf
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>>538692913
Oh. I did it in on the second try, so I'm probably not a good source of advice...
Focus down the bell throwers immediately, and/or get good at knocking back their bells, try to get down one of the two summoner guys immediately too. Otherwise play as defensively as you need to. None of the enemies are very fast.
The big guys are really bad at hitting you in the upper corners, and the two at the end never attack at the same time.

>>538692935
>>538693009
The duality of man.
Oh, right, there's still Bilewater. Or the Bilewater runback, rather. Fuck. Is there something you can do about the leeches? Witch's heal gets rid of them, but that's really costly.
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>>538693656
theres a trinket you can find that helps, also any heal removes the leeches, not just witch's
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>>538693656
There is a tool in Putrfied Ducts for the leechwater.
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so if widow was a weaver, then how come her head isn't a ball like the others?
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>>538693931
read her journal entry
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>>538693931
Doesnt her journal address her face? And judging from the pins, she probably got experimented on and deformed.
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>>538692413
>>538692913
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>>538694121
this shit is extremely broken for ground things
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To do:
>last part of Bilewater
>find 2 craftmetal for last architect item and that bee in High Halls
>find somewhere safe for the fleas
>find the area that electric shit in Memorium is from
>find last key for Slab
>figure out how to get SLIGHTLY more air time for that upwards path in the far west of Blasted Steppes
>figure out how to open the Deep Deep Docks bell, also that bucket of fire rocks I guess
>open the door at Pilgrim's Rest
>couple audible items here and there
>the delivery quests can eat shit

>>538693892
Shit, really? I swear I tried that.

>>538693896
>find Putrefied Ducts
How is there still this much left to do? Fuck, man, this game.
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After 35 hours I have finally unlocked double jump. My muscle memory is completely fucked up from 2nd input being the parachute pants.
Amusing.
Are they actually going to remove the down+jump override to deploy the chute in the next patch because people are having execution errors? Please tell me that's just a bad rumor.
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Beating the last boss cursed made me so good that I can beat him uncursed hitless.
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>>538693503
TLDR: Because she doesn't want that
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So what did Silk even want? To have a successor?

>>538693503
her powers become uncontrollable and its implied by the cutscene she does a similar thing to pharloom that the haunting did
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>>538694785
The act 2 final boss is the easiest boss in the game to be fair.
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>>538694937
I think they made him easier on purpose since you need to beat him more than once
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>>538694067
ah i see
i always thought that those were their heads and not masks
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>>538689667
no spoilers please.

what are the signs to get the true ending? heard its relatively easy to get the "bad" one
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>>538695336
Do quests, get fleas. Keep doing wishboard quests.
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>>538695336
the guy at songclave will talk to you about what you need to do for the true ending when the time is right. You can also do bad ending with no repercussions and reload the save when you're done.
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Oh, and this shit in Vaults. Unless you somehow get in here from Bilewater.
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>>538695460
is songclave reachable from act 2?
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how are they able to tell hornet is a girl
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So what exactly triggered the collapse of the kingdom in this game? Was the structure and way things worked just so inherently garbage and unstable it collapsed on itself, or did something specific trigger Grand mother into going apeshit on her own creation?
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>>538695702
yeah, it's the city at the top right of the citadel, you need to complete a bunch of stuff there for true ending to even happen
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>>538695772
it's always been like this though
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>>538695724
her child-bearing hips
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>>538695881
True, I was thinking form the point of view of how some stuff seems way more decrepit than it's intentional, but then I remembered that those are the undesirable zones.
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>"Nee-chan!"
How would you react?
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>>538696209
>why is this giant mass of darkness speaking japanese
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The verdania fight is impossible, you can't dodge their dance in the middle.
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>BRAAAAAAAAP
I totally forgot about this guy from the trailer/beta
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>>538696209
Hornet was trying to act cool infront of Lace but the moment she's alone she's breaking down into tears.
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>>538696420
and a better pic
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Can you go back to Verdania after the boss?
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They really put a "Challenge" before Grandmother Silk and made Hornet do the stance, bro thinks he's the Radiance *skull emoji* *skull emoji*
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>>538696581
no
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I have 8 masks and 1 mask frag and im at the final boss in the cradle. does anyone know how many mask frags im missing going into act 3? Im guessing ill have to cross reference and do another full map sweep to clean up what im missing going into act 3 but it would be nice knowing im at least close to maxing out where I am now
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>removed the second drillbird on the last judge runback
Lol
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>>538695821
>>538695417
got it. thanks.
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>>538696726
so then how am I supposed to farm the bestiary entries if I can't go back...
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Why the fuck is this getting me emotional
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>>538689891
Use Thread Storm to aoe down the interim waves and Longpin to damage the big guys. You can do it, anon!
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>>538696881
you get all the bestiary entries for free if an area with them becomes inaccessible
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What zone is the double jump in? I cannot find it for the life of me. Also do the other weavenests have some secrets or do they just give me one thing
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>>538697084
the cold area outside the slab, all you need is grapple
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>>538697084
mountain, and you get 1 in most except the biggest one, maybe they also have an effigy or something
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>>538697084
summit of mount fay gives you double jump, as far as weavenests. some give you tools, others give you silk abilities. the main one is one south of starting area where it has eva and item for act 3
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Does anybody know where I can find Elder Pilgrims and Pilgrim Bellbearers in Act 3? They're all I need to complete the hunter's journal
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>>538697180
>>538697181
>>538697220
Its so shasty to put it there, thank you anons
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Who's the biggest "around them never relax" of this series? Snails or Snitchflies?
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>>538696420
>>538696515
upon entering 2nd phase there's a chance that the boss will disappear. gotta restart I guess.
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Ghost should add lace to his mantis lord harem.
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hello gentlemen
would i be wrong to think silksong have a lot of similitudes to the og rayman and that i would like it for these similitudes?
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>>538695071
Herrah didn’t have a bobblehead either
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The upper part of this room is complete ass. What's in it?
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>>538697757
Around snails, ready your nails
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>>538698557
thing that removes maggot debuff
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>>538698557
iirc there's an NPC that shows you where the lost fleas are
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I just fought the pinmaster and she mentionned there being something in the mountain core or whatever
Is this actually worth checking out?
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>>538698751
Upper part. Let yourself get dragged up by the first barnacle, break free near the top, float and nail over the spikes and then die anyway because breaking free late enough to make it without getting ate is ass.


>>538698985
Oh. God dammit.
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>>538698997
You get a mask shard
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LMAOOOOOOOOOO
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>>538699309
fuck it's the last one I need
Alright then
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Is there anything on the surface other than the memento? It took me like 30 minutes to get up here!
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This real final boss is breaking me, Idk if I have the strength anons...
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>>538699691
technically theres something near the top when you get to the end of a specific questline later but other than that, the journal entries for the bugs up there.

>>538700083
you can do it anon, just remember to learn the patterns before wasting too many tools
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>>538699404
are the snails jewish?
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>>538700314
>theres a shortcut
Thank God, I assume the Mr Mushroom quest takes me back here
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>>538700314
I don't use tools...and I'm a wanderer god...
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>>538700402
yes, but he won't be at the surface itself you have to jump into the hole to find him
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>>538699404
Best reveal in the game, I clapped when I realized what they were
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These jumping puzzles in Mount Fay are diabolical is what I would say if I hadn't already done the volcano jumping puzzle in the skull hut in far fields
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>>538700448
>no tools
then you really better learn those patterns
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how do i open this gate
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>>538700638
>>538700638
hidden passageway in the fast travel station
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>>538700638
Switch on the other side.
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>Beat final boss
>Get rolled over by unavoidable tendrils / scythes

????????????????????????
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>>538696494
ghost will try his best to look fluffy for hornet when she gets home
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>>538700787
Just double jump and clawshot over it
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Can someone please tell me what area fucking double jump is in?
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>>538701170
>hornet sewing him a big fluffy coat and using him like a living fluffy plush while she cries when she gets home
artists
draw it
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>>538701582
mountain
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>>538701685
Fuck.
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Around snails...
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>>538701801
look to them for ways to save kingdoms?
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I never played Hollow Knight but a friend gifted me with Silksong so I'm playing it. It's pretty fun.
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>>538689667
Do I have to fulfil every wish to unlock act 3?
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>>538702067
most
p sure all the board wishes at least
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>>538689891
the last colosseum trial is much, much harder than the high halls gauntlet
if you don't have it already get double jump from mount fay first, to disable the wizard spiders that steal your silk and make dodging the big guys much easier.
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>>538702596
The big guys are already the easiest part of the gauntlet, utter tack/pogo bait.
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>>538702067
All the board wishes from every settlement.
I think you need to do the nail oil upgrade food quest but I'm not sure.
You absolutely need to do the cog heart stuff, revive the sentinel dude with it, find him fighting shit a few times, then go take his wish off the board, beat him.
Eventually the grouchy priest guy in the city will call you over to talk about making a trap and you'll get the Act 3 wish.
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>>538703494
they can jump and swing upwards so pogos aren't always safe
almost never use tools myself but i can see how tacks make it trivial >>538694121
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you fucking faggotish niggerish faggots of shits. you made me think that this one is also fake. why did you keep posting it and calling it devious and shit? fucking agents of team niggy I swear.
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so about architect... needle turns into a drill which makes me wonder: is drill more effective than regular needle when it comes to shard stones that have infinite shards?
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>>538702067
You need to do every act 2 wish. There are a bunch in act 3 but if you are looking at a guide just check each board before going back to the first shrine to get the quest.
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So, the Green Prince of Verdania and...his brother?
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I need to coom inside Lace.
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i'm missing the tools above and below the drill, anyone know what they are/where they are?
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>>538705242
it'd be like fucking a big blanket
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>>538705262
longpin and voltvessels according to mine. no clue where either were, sorry
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>>538702596
colosseum is harder but it feels easier in a weird way, the way HK handles multiple enemy bullshit feels like they're coordinating attacks and taking turns while Silksong they're acting individually and covering almost every escape route
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>>538705317
Not that there's anything wrong with that!
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How do I increase my defense?
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>>538705736
you need to take on zote's burden and vanquish his 4 brothers
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>>538705736
Hornet should be able to fashion herself high fantasy armor from the shells of the bugs she has slain.
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If you dont think Silksong is game of the year you are insane. I'd accept Expedition 33 as well but this game is incredible. 20 fucking dollars for such an amazing memorable experience.
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How many of you feeling like this?
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>>538706103
Give her more stuff for her house, she deserves it.

>>538705843
Her outfit in the memory when she was talking to the White Lady was so cool.
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>>538694415
It's official, hopefully they implement a different override that's harder to do by accident, like Map+Jump or something.
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Are all mementos required for 100%?
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>>538706449
no
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>>538706449
No, and neither is completing the hunter's journal.
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>>538706521
>>538706502
well damn, i'm at 99, got all spells, all tools, all masks and all spools, do i have to beat the game again to get 100% or something?
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>>538701714
Its not as bad as it seems
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>>538706728
Are you sure you're not missing a quest? You do need to beat the game once you hit 100% though (and do the Mister Mushroom quest so you can knock that one off too).
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>>538689891
I honestly enjoyed it, it maybe was a bit too long but I felt that it made me better at the game in general.
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>>538706823
i did mr. mushroom's quest yeah, and my questboards are empty, i really wonder what i'm missing
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>>538704180
I found the boss room and I understand everything now
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>>538707036
Did you get all the silkhearts? Did you bind Eva? That might count.
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>>538689891
Its honestly not as bad as it seems, you can shred the big dudes at the end with some tacks.
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>theres a section of the memorium dedicated to verdania
>it was compromised and all the creatures are dead on the ground
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>>538707496
yeah i did that just now after replying to you, i remembered that eva might have wanted to talk to me more, so i spammed memory lockets and bound her. holy fuck eva's art would have been so useful to have before 100% LMAO but yep, that was the last %!
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>>538707591
Memorium was my kind of jam, really creative way to reuse assets.

>>538707603
Niiice
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>>538707683
on a side note, you happen to know what the second upgrade to hunter's crest does? is it just more focus damage?
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Who the fuck is crazy enough to do this in a game where you can get combo'd for 6 damage in under 2 seconds?
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>>538707812
I think its just more damage when your focus bar fills up, yeah. I'm not 100% sure. I saw a reddit post earlier where some guy was doing damage calculations so maybe there's info on r/silksong or r/hollowknight. Kinda wish the other crests got some boost too because the damage you deal with hunter seems to push it to be the general best.
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>>538707182
You're not locked in there with them. Abuse your traps to quickly clear up groups of flying enemies, and poison charm is a great charm on multihit tools like curve claw. Can always purposefully die off to a side to leave a full heal for the rematch.
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>>538708245
Poison is just great on basically everything. I never took that fucker off once I got it, its free damage.
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>>538708294
At least take it off for strictly-platforming segments like Mt. Faye.
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>>538707882
Save and quit to menu every time something looks at you cross.
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>>538705262
>>538705354
Longpin is in the cell in the Marrow where you find Grindle or whatever his name is

Voltvessel is in Memorium somewhere, its in the upper right I think? Behind some electric stuff.

>>538708356
That's fair in hindsight but I was scared they would Path of Pain you and put a fight at the top.
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What's the deal with the Cilantro meme?
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Holy fuck the Far Fields mask piece gauntlet was such a bitch. I couldn't do it without using the trap tool. I don't think I care to 100% this game. How close am I to finishing Act II if I 2/3 of the songs? Is Act III at least a little smaller?
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I WOULD love for some Hollow or Ghost characterization eventually from TC, but we likely won't get it.

I want more emotional moments between the pale sibs. Give me a Hornet and Ghost adventure that has a heart wrenching ending where Ghost saves Hornet's ass one last time before dying for good, give me Hornet having an emotional breakdown while a shaky violin akin to Red Memory's background music https://youtu.be/DzC-SzSHWhs plays Then Hornet flips the script by saving Ghost's ass instead because she's tired of losing people she cares about.
>That sounds cringe
I know. It's great. Give me some of that wholesome sibling shit. Team-cherry keeps throwing the sibling word around so give me something actually focuses on that aspect of their characters.
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>>538708821
Holy shit that is not that right link. Clipboard broke.
https://youtu.be/PJWao0j0agM
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>>538697862
Had this happen to. Of course I was hitless on that go of it and had all the momentum and then died 2 more times after exiting the game and coming back
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>Struggled with boss for literal hours
>Today decided to switch to Reaper crest
>Defeated it second try
Wow, I thought Reaper was fuckin' useless when I first got it, I guess not. I'll try to use it more for "sneak one hit" kinds of bosses.
Though that was also maybe because I finally decided to use Plasmium.
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>trying to get thee three things needed to progress
>have no clue what to do and explored the map
>lookup
>need harpoon

what the fuck, why doesn't the game tell me?
i dind't know there was a harpoon, is it in this same area?

did i miss it? i searched this entire area for fucking ages and found no way to procedd
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>>538708245
pin and sting laced with poison were indeed the key to killing him. in fact I didn't even touch him with a needle. still an absolute shitfest (in a bad way). meanwhile I discovered a HL ripoff lole
>curve claw
when I found him he was dead with fractured mask. what triggers this and can I still get the boomerang?
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please help>>538709371
>>538709371

i've been in this area for 2 days now, i don't know what the fuck to do.
i can't reach the new stuff that popped up

i don't have the double jump or nothing
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>>538709772
you need harpoon for double jump in another area. in the meantime just look up "silksong harpoon". there are tutorials already everywhere.
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>>538709772
Did you get the key near Songclave? You have a marker on where to use it on the left side of your map. The route down there is actually pretty easy to follow. You get it there.
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>>538709772
>been in this area for two days
Why have you been trying the same area for 2 days when there is 3 objectives on your map? Do the whispering vaults first. You seem desperate so I will outright tell you that after that you can get to the area with the Harpoon. Alternatively use the key at the end of Songclave to open a locked door near the entrance of the choral chambers in the west which also eventually leads to that area.
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which area has double jump?
I "finished" the game but don't have it,, so I want to get it first
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>>538710208
Mountain
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This shit spooked me more than it should have
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>enters Bilewater
>don't have money for the mapper
>leaves to farm money
>back
>she's gone forever
>apparently it's for some late game quest
>clear Bilewater without a map
>said quest doesn't spawn (Trail's end)
>now I'm locked out of the true ending
great game
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>>538711368
play music for it
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>>538711476
the ring lady? she camps out at bellhart.
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>>538709293
biggest margin for error for pogoing.
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>>538691148
Why your does lightning tool look like this? Mine looks like a plasmium phial except purple.
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>>538712720
read the description. theres an extra button prompt on its page
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kino
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>>538712790
Oh, I see. That's really cool.
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>>538710313
>hides double jump behind an area that, at first glance, requires you to have anti-cold item
>most people just nope'd out of the place
very funny TC, very funny...
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Okay I fully unlocked the first four Crests before obtaining any others and didn't get the blue upgrade from the NPC for it, just in case anyone was still trying to figure out what her triggers are.
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>>538713335
so its just memory tokens then? bit of an odd correlation that her progression is tied to it. dont think anyone would assume that naturally in their playthrough.
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>>538713528
It's probably combination of things like silkheart, crest, locket, silk skill, etc, each power up add a point to invisible exp bar for next upgrade
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>>538713335
I'm pretty sure you get blue slot after obtaining witch and architect.
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Maybe i should be using the tools way more often.
the drill is so funny, and the cog bug is so good when exploring.
i just don't use them much since they need shards.
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I know taking the flea caravan to greymoor skips Moorwing, but now they want to move from greymoor. Where do they go, and what does it skip?
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Oh boy, Act III!
Jesus Christ how horrifying.
>>538709527
>curve claw
Not sure what triggers his death, but you should visit the room above his and avenge him
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>>538714018
Gay
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>>538713248
>game teaches you about warm spots on the roof of The Slab
>do two jumps in the mountain area and find a warm spot
Don't know how anyone could be confused.
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>>538714043
i dont think it skips anything, and after they move, the boss starts appearing again.
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>>538714643
People who never got captured (yes they exist) or who visits Mount Fay hours after The Slab escape segment and forgot about it since you spend 5 minutes max on the roof and there's no reason to go back up there.
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>silksong is a soulslike
I've been thinking about why this idea bothers me. I got 100% on cuphead, need only p4, p5 and 112% for hollow knight and am loving silk song (beginning of act 2). But absolutely hate souls likes. Quit dark souls after an hour. Put a couple hours into salt and sanctuary and had no fun.

The difference, I think, is the upgrade mechanics. Hollow knight and silk song have flat upgrades whereas souls likes have stat upgrades (personalized builds). This is distinct from using charms. The other is the estus for limited healing. In silksong you in principle have infinite healing. The mechanics also feel way more crisp in hollow knight.

Basically if I hate souls likes with a passion yet can play games like cuphead or hollow knight, I think this indicates calling them soulslikes is myopic.

Hard ≠ soulslike
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>>538714894
>(yes they exist)
I kinda wish this segment was mandatory. It's really cool and it's a shame that it's missable.
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>>538714894
i was confused by everyone saying hornet got undressed in the slab when i just walked in there from the citadel.
not to mention i don't have the harpoon thingy as well so mount fay really looked like i need some cold protection or something.
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Did the Fleamaster fistfight Moorwing to drive it away from its boss arena
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I HATE SKARRSINGER
I HATE SKARRSINGER
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This game do be liking plataform. I wonder how many people know about this secret mask in Mount Fay
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is there a mod to replace the word underworks with the word underwear?

cause that would be funny

haha...
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>>538716110
>Did the Fleamaster fist Moorwing to drive it away from its boss arena

ftfy
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did i fuck up by entering act 3 before doing all the dart challenge in the marrow?
the guy said they are thinking of some more difficult challenges.
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>Make repeatable delivery
>But no repeatable hunt
Just why
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>>538711476
Check Bellhart. If she's not there, wack the ring at her spot, she'll show up.
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ok how the fuck do you beat this, i'm going insane here
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i love this game and hollow knight but fuck i have no clue where to go
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Where can I get an aoe soul attack? I currently only have the stabbing line one which is useless to me at the current boss I'm up to
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>>538720312
Greymoor, the rightmost part of it.
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>>538720645
Thanks
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I'm horny for Hornet
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Is there a way to visually detect secret passages on top of the walls? I accidentally misclicked while clinging to the wall, and the Thread Storm opened up the passage. AFAIR the wall looked pretty normal, no shaking or cracks. Now I wonder how many secret passages I missed.
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>>538690162
One of the things that annoys me with the contact damage is when an enemy is stunned they still contact damage you. Means I have to stand not too close when I want to spam hits on them, but hitting them, even when stunned, gives me knock back, so now I have to hit and sometimes move closer, but sometimes I move too close and take contact damage. I tried with the [reduce knockback] charm, but there's still noticeable knockback.

Also, is getting a charm for zero knockback so bad? Zero for hitting, not zero taking damage. I think it's reasonable, no?
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>>538714043
After Greymoor they move to Last Judge's arena. I didn't trigger it until well after I had already beaten it though. I think the trigger is getting half of all fleas, though it could be less. I checked on them after I popped the achievement.
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>>538690241
I'd like to add "prekill" to this anon's question. I see some people say it'll make things faster, but what is it? I thought it might mean weakening an enemy, but don't they get their health back once you leave that area?
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>>538721954
I'm generally okay with contact damage on stunned enemies but there are a couple things that could maybe be looked at. I remember thinking it was kind of bullshit on Last Judge since her design is so top-heavy.
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>>538722079
That's probably a delivery quests' thing:
>go to your destination
>kill all enemies on the way to Bellhart
>take the delivery quest
>run mostly unimpeded (some enemies do respawn, but most don't)
It's a tactics that was commonly used for the White Flower quest in Hollow Knight.
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>>538722239
If they have spikes or have bodies like lava slimes or something, then yeah, I think contact damage would make sense even on stun.
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hmmm so you can probably get into act 2 and explore a lot without the drift cloak, but it's strictly required to get into the clawline area
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I'm in The Mist right now, seems like the location is like a fairy realm, mystical mist causing you go in circles. Is there anything to do there right now, or should I come back later when I have some sort of navigation upgrade?
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the abyss escape sequence really shouldn't be that hard man. but the fact that i can't double jump under a wind current threw me off so bad i keep dying on the easy part.
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>>538723235
the entrance room of the mist has the major hint that you need to navigate the area
the glowing butterflies guide you
you got the needolin, right?
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So did they get Miyazaki to consult for this area or something. Fucking christ.
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>>538723864
Google and go to the secret bench
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>>538723864
You're missing like 3 secret breakable walls at least anon
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>>538721876
Some you can, but there are definitely some that are nigh indistinguishable. And there's a fuckton in this game. I just get in the habit of passively attacking all the walls when I explore new rooms.
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>>538723864
Honestly? I like it. It's difficult and dangerous, but not oppressive, and I like that tragic misery vibe it has.
There's a hidden bench. It's in the same room as you cocoon. IIRC, it's down a pit on the right, behind a breakable wall. You'll have to take a swim in the leeches to get to it.
The runback is unforgivably bad no matter what bench you use, though.

>>538724648
They're usually cracked or look like they're made of rubble, but a lot of it's still gamer sense.
I obviously have no idea if I've missed any breakable walls, but I will say I've been doing the same tactic as >>538724648 and have never found a wall that didn't already look or seem breakable. There's never been anything like a perfectly ordinary-looking wall that's breakable.
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>>538724254
>>538724346
>>538724859
Yeah, I found the secret bench. Makes the runback a lot easier honestly. So how did this fatty learn the secrets of soul magic anyway?
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>>538725218
you get the seeker's soul item from nearby, so maybe he somehow just knows it?
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sinners road is fucking tilting me bros i fucking loathe this zone
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>>538727436
it's only second to bile water. and they are both connected.
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I can't beat last judge, its fucking over. I'm retarded and can't beat a game that u can only go left and right.
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>>538728029
Last Judge filtered me too (>>538678724). I'm pretty sure I can beat her after enough tries, but I can't do her and the run back. I hear Act 2 starts after her, so I think it's nice we made it this far. We can just chill with Sherma.
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>>538728029
equip the fire resistant charm
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>>538728150
The run back is killing me. I actually die more times running back then actually fighting the boss
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>>538728407
F*cking same man. Idk how many times I get to 2 masks left then quit so I don't lose my coco due to slipping off a pogo and landing into worms.
Then after using all the mental strength to do the run back you gotta switch gears to remembering how to fight a boss you have yet to even beat. It's too much. They nerfed Moorwing and SplintSis, but I think this run back is what really needs a nerf.
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>>538724859
Floor-level breakable walls are easy, but some walls are breakable near ceiling instead.
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>>538728029
>>538728407
>The run back is killing me.
Sprint jump, jump again at the start to completely avoid the first conchfly.
Once you're past the first guy with the shield and mace, instead of jumping forward, jump to the left and wall climb up.
https://youtu.be/VDx_w8saxLM?t=9

As for the Judge fight, it's actually really easy if you play defensively and get used to the attack and how to deal with them. I struggled with the dash into flame spirals attack for a while, but all you have to do is look for her animation to start up, then jump over her and you completely avoid both attacks. Don't get greedy, try not to use tools if you're low on silk, and I would only use tools on the last phase if at all.

Pro tip: Get the dice from the guy in blasted steps, and get the critical mask from the secret vendor in Hunter's March (if he's not dead yet. I don't know the trigger for his death).
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>>538728772
>>538729012
Oh yeah, buy the thermal protection bell from the blacksmith to reduce the damage from the fire attacks down from 2 to 1 mask.
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I honestly hated the game in act 2 but act 3 has been great, it feels like old Hollow Knight
I haven't seen any low effort content so far. There are still gauntlets but they are not as annoying as act 2. Bosses are engaging and difficult. Somehow they didn't forget to put benches near the arenas this time around.
Act 2 just makes my blood boils with all the
"its my peanus weanus bench is in Brazil while the boss arena is in Nanking xd" design decisions.
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The second half of act 2 is such a miserable slog i don't even want to boot the game up anymore, and apparently act 3 is even more boring.
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>>538729012
>Vid
Oh-ho ho. This is helpful. Didn't notice the left wall after the first guy. I'm nta (I'm the other one) but I'll try this out once I've recharged.
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i keep forgetting to use the clawline for platforming
i know to use it for the grappling rings but the game clearly wants me to also use it as a super-airdash and it's not intuitive to me
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>cannot charge silk with charged attacks
Are these devs completely out of touch with their own systems?
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>>538729012
>Get the dice from the guy in blasted steps
You mean the guy you gamble with for =/-4 rosies? How do you get his dice? When I talk to him he just asks to play.
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>>538729012
Thank babe xoxo
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>>538729338
10 wins apparently
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>it's ANOTHER grand cathedral fetch quest episode
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>>538729328
The charged attack in HK is also bad but this shit is on a whole new level of incompetence
Btw, most charged attacks are worthless because they do doubled damage but is twice as slow. And they build 1 silk instead of 2. Genius.
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>>538729457
Cyclone Slash was insane in HK
>slowed down your descent
>if you spam attack button you could extend it until it does roughly 800% of your base damage
>can fit it in a lot of opportunity windows during boss fights
Great Slash was insane for clearing out simple mobs too.
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>>538729338
>>538729423
I think it only took 5 wins or so. I had no idea what I was doing and kept winning, but I think the wiki said to throw the dice when they glow for a guaranteed win.
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>>538729423
No way. I got it in 4 or 5.

>>538729338
It's not clear at all, but you can actually hold down the roll dice button. Count 14 shakes and throw.
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>>538729338
you need to win a bunch of times in a row. there's a trick to it, you hold A to keep shaking the dice for a certain number of seconds/shakes and it's a guaranteed win. someone said 5 seconds, someone else said 14 shakes. for me it was like 8 or 9 shakes that worked, but maybe i was counting the visual cue in a different way
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>Found that level room in Far Fields
>Died twice on the wave with two skulls that shoot fireballs
>Look it up
>That was the final wave
Fuck. You also have to parkour and escape after the fights >.>
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>>538729514
Don't remember using either in Godmaster, the thing is Cyclone is good but you can also just spam slash and it is way less committal all the time.
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>>538729839
do yourself a favor and don't do it until you have the double jump
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can you change your silkshot or are you locked in once youve repaired it?
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>>538729839
>level room
lava room in Far Fields*
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>>538729514
the problem with the nail arts is they're too hard to use and regular nail slashes deal fucktons of damage along with building soul faster
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There is a weaver door in Wormways. Do I need doublejump to get it?
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I'm at my limit, the game is way, way too difficult to be enjoyable.
>Act 2 High Halls Gauntlet is impossible
>Bilewater is impossible and has the most absurd sequence having to go from the bottom entirely to the top with a gauntlet AND a boss without a bench in a zone that stops you from healing if you fuck up and fall into the water once. AND it has a fakeout bench to fuck you.

I just don't see the point of playing further, they made it insanely fucking hard out of spite and I can't do it, they win.
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Savage Beastfly Round 2: Electric Boogaloo does not induce happiness in me
Just gonna mark that one and come back when I have 3 oil upgrades
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>>538730173
Haven't done Bilewater yet but I believe anons have said there's a hidden bench somewhere.

The whole Sinner's Road and beyond feel like DLC areas and you can even do them to progress to act 2 instead of Judge for a challenge. You can just go back when you have more masks, oil, and tools.
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>>538730202
I did it with 2 upgrades. The whip silk attack 1 shots the adds at that point.
>>538730173
The game isn't "difficult". It's low effort. The gauntlets and mini bosses with adds spam are the laziest contents in the game and the hardest.
For the high halls gauntlet I hope you have 2 upgrades and a lot of ammo. For the bee guy, if you stand directly beneath him he can't hit you with anything, so when the gauntlet summons 1 just deal with 1 quick (2 upgrades + whip silk skill twice)
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>>538730312
>and you can even do them to progress to act 2 instead of Judge for a challenge.
who in their right mind would go through that hell instead of just fighting last judge whos easy lmao
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>>538730173
I'd say you should visit bilewater after you're almost finished with act 2 (including +3 needle)
also google hidden bench
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I'm in early Act 2. Any good bead farming spots? Suddenly every vendor pops up out of the bushes and wants 1K+ beads each
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>>538730682
Top left bench of choral chambers, run right into 3 pilgrims
Further right (2 large rooms right) are also some big elite mobs that drop very good if you can learn their pattern

If you want easy peasy spot, then go to the tavern in the moor and run right into 3 small pilgrims
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Do i misremember, or HK1 was way more open in terms of where you could go and what you could grab? I distinctly remember being able to gather all nail arts very early.
Silksong feels almost linear in comparison.
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>>538730428
for replay variety or for speedrunning
you can get to the mist via sinners road without even entering bilewater, Phantom has a generous bench runback, and puts you in a more convenient part of the citadel to start act 2
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>>538730848
you are misremembering
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>>538730805
>Top left bench of choral chambers, run right into 3 pilgrims
That's what I was thinking of doing. I've been using Greymoor's.
>Further right (2 large rooms right) are also some big elite mobs
I believe they give 32 but they take a while to kill. They have an AoE and a jump attack and rather short openings, and then you have to run back to a bench.
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>>538731007
The elites are good if you unlock nearby benches, but I don't remember how early those are.
Haven't checked but quitting out should effectively put you at the bench quickly (I never keep track of my roseries so idk if this keeps the loot or not)
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>>538730147
No
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>>538731110
Save & quit keeps everything and just takes you to your last bench when you load. I abuse it for a bunch of things when I'm feeling lazy like accepting a quest, doing it, then save & load so you can instantly turn it in.
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>>538731213
Not really an abuse when they give you these courier quests that require you to travel to Brazil and if you fuck up then quitting out is the only rational decision
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>>538731276
those are easy since you can kill enemies then accept quest so they dont appear in the run
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>>538730848
I don't think you can grab all nail arts super early, two of them being on kingdoms edge and howling cliffs, but it was definitely made with skips in mind, they even patched some in along the updates
Silksong feels linear because you need to almost enter/enter the citadel to get pretty much all nail upgrades, grapple, shit like that, and then there's areas like the ants with ABSOLUTELY NOTHING in them, and then you need to collect everything and help everyone when in HK all you needed was talking to two NPCs for true ending
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>>538731436
That is unironically too autistic for me, I can't be assed to travel through the same area twice. Most damage taken is from platforming anyway
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the game is too easy
there are no challenging bosses or parkour
hope they fix it in DLC
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Where's that big fat grey flying boss that goes flying side to side and up and down? Ran into him ages then forgot where he was and what it's called
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>>538731680
Chapel of the Beast
It is drawn on the map
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>>538731747
>Chapel of the Beast
Thanks
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how do you get this flea in the slab?
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>>538731908
It is in a corridor accessible from the right, so you loop around and find a big towers with a lot of doors on both side
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>>538730891
I have no idea what "the mist" is
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>>538731908
nvm lol
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>>538731908
get the apostate key from the gay sewers
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>>538729338
No idea how this works, this seems mad retarded.
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I like this guy. Did I miss him and acts 1 and 2 or does he only appear in act 3?
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>>538732145
a3 only
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>>538732124
Figured it out, press space count to 6 and release.
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>enemy performs attack
>gets behind it
>strikes it from the back
>my weapon clashes with its weapon, 0 damage
I HATE THE ANTICHRIST
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>>538729248
SHE HAS A PHASE 3?!?!?!?
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>>538732746
love the antichrist, become the antichrist
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How do I reach the core of mount fay?

I have no clue and I walked around the area 3 times
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>>538733006
in the middle area there's some light coming out from the ceiling, use your super jump
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Is there a good place to farm meat for the broodfeast quest?
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>>538733063
I don't have the super jump....
fuck this
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I never played the first game. What mod should I install that improves the game?
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>>538733303
Uninstall wizard
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>>538731198
Okay. Any hints? Because I've tried everything I could think of and neither idea worked.
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>>538733303
install some pride and dedication to your brain
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>>538733364
You are supposed to access Wormways from the top (shellwood) not below
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>>538733364
you need double jump
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>first tried the High Hall gauntlet
I was so much worse from how people were acting. I didn't really use my tools or skills but I've got the needle at +3 and the map bug showed up to help.
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>>538733336
>>538733373
Why are you so mean?
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>>538730147
i assume yes, i haven't gotten it yet
>>538733463
the direction you enter from does not give you any extra height to get up that ledge
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>music sign next to placard that says something about playing music for departed souls or some shit
>play music
>nothing happens
ok
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>>538733593
You need to walk further and play it on the corpses
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>>538733303
hornet naked mod
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>>538729423
>>538729534
>>538729580
>>538729587
>>538732124
Thanks for all your advices. I put it all together and see that the shake count likely varies for each game. I counted 13 shakes for me. Took 5 times in a row.
What I think is probably consistent is the tell. As you watch her shake, there's going to be a shake that different than the others. That's (you)r shake, and it'll be like that each throw. Let the dice go as that shake is about to happen. If you do it right, her the dice will glow on release.
Also, even if you win in a row by luck, I don't think it counts. (I won in a row 4 or 5 times by sheer luck and no reward). I think this method must be used to get the dice.
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hornet is literally depicted as a stick figure, how are people horny for her?
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>>538734223
I never did this and just bought the dice from the flea because I'm guessing this bug died somehow
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>>538734310
It's called liking her for her personality
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>>538734310
Yeah, I thought the nude game pics of her were funny, but when I reached the slab I felt some typa way watching her run around naked.
It really did feel kinda lewd.
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>>538734519
>liking her for her personality
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So my favorite part of act 3 rn is the game throwing the moss mother (literally first boss) x2 at me and buffs it with the black goo
And it has taken me 4 attempts so far so that beats the final boss of act 2 (3 attempts)
This is why the "difficulty" is a meme in this game. If they want the rack up the death numbers they just throw a bunch of flying enemies in the same room.
Btw if they turn black and you stun them, the black goo attack still comes out (devs probably heard that people hated collision box while monsters are stunned, so they upgraded it)
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if you're cheating in the dice game, you're a bad person
not only are you removing the gambling game out of the gambling charm but you're taking this guy's only entertainment, just let him have his fun as he spends his last moments
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imagine if steel soul mode had an act 4 at 100% completion, wwyd?
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>>538734791
to be fair, the final boss of act 2 is kinda easy.
even my shitter self beat her in under 10 tries and last judge took me 40+ tries.
no i don't know where the fuck pale oils are other than the food mission
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>>538734354
yes, he dies and grindle robs his corpse. the gambling game is how you get them as early as possible
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>>538734990
Can't people just save scum for Steel Soul? I don't mean quit game; I mean go to the save folder and make an extra copy in case you die.
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I accidentally accepted the moorwing aid from an NPC. I'll never beat the game anymore.
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>>538734990
wait for the mod that adds act 4 into normal mode
>>538735278
yes but even that would be unreasonably tedious given how often i die
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>>538735315
moorwing barely qualifies as a miniboss, don't worry about it
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>>538733632
oh really i'll try that then thanks
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>>538735438
actually, yeah its moves are quite scarce lol.and you can juggle him with air attack
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started act 3 at 34hrs game time
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>>538733378
Hornet HATES public displays of affection.
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>>538730202
You can just run out of the arena and the beastfly will drop aggro and it’s minions will despawn.
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>>538730202
For me the second encounter went much smoother and quicker than the first one despite the annoying arena.
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whats the hardest crest to use?
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>>538727223
It does have that signature texture to it, doesn’t it? That’s funny.
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>>538736642
Beast pogo
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I'm fighting the burning thing in wisp place, why does it feel like my double jump doesn't want to work after pogoing on the balloons in boss room? Anyone else had this issue?
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>>538736708
worse than reaper? i havent unlocked it yet
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>>538736808
Nta. Beast pogo moves kinda horizontal iirc. You can get it at Hunter's March
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>>538736992
thanks! I'll check it out!
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>tough platforming section
>dies
>next attempt pogo off the corpse to skip the difficult part
hackerman
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>>538737176
I recommend having your nail upgraded once before going to Hunter's March.
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>>538705736
The best defense is called not getting hit.
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>>538736731
That one fucked me up too. Holding down while in the air overrides double jump and skips to gliding. This is intentional. So after every pogo if you want to double jump you must let go of the down button (or start pressing one of the left or right keys, I think that disables the override as well even if you are still pressing down)
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>>538737653
Did it but it was annoying, used dash to reset the double jump.
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>>538737273
cogwork core gameplay
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>>538700083
>This real final boss is breaking me
I've done this like 100 times and I have no clue what some of the telegraphs even are.
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i think i'm going crazy
i swear i got 6 craftmetals and spent 3, but i only have 2 left in my inventory
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>>538737976
Been there, fought her 3 hours. Decided to fight her again after finishing the game since its the only one you can replay and did her in 2 tries.
You do get good eventually
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>>538738009
a snitchfly fleeced your pockets bud
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>>538738206
Yes. Just in case you get really annoyed, the boss can be cheesed.
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>>538738285
yeah if i can even get to the fucking boss
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>>538735953
>Hornet getting hugged in front of Lace by Ghost and Hollow the moment she gets home causes her to screech like an autistic banshee.
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>>538738124
I've got 100% completion besides her, maybe I'm just tired but I can't understand some of the moves. Seeing some videos they get 3 hits in after dodging the slide combo she does but if I try that she will instantly do the flip up (not the counter).
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>>538733506
Most people who do High Halls end up doing it double jumpless and therefore, no Shakra since they won't have bought the Bilewater map.
No double jump also means being unable to disable the Silkeaters.
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>>538738471
I did it first go with those handicaps. Pretty unusual, normally it takes me at least few goes to beat the challenge rooms/bosses.
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>>538738379
Her 3rd attack while dashing is random, it can be anything from 3rd dash to tentacles or jump.
Videos tend to be cherrypicked from the best attempts or best looking ones, as long as u even get 1 hit and know how to punish parries you are good.
Spoilers to make it easier if u cant figure yourself eventually:
jump after parry but vertically and dont go to any side, you will not get hit by neither normal parry nor the one when she jumps if u react
pogo is king in most cases
3rd phase has no parries to slap the bitch away as you please
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>>538733364
You do not need double jump, just sprint and hookshot
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>>538691852
where is this chud im missing my last silk heart
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where the fuck do you niggas find the fan knives
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>>538714894
I'm one of these people and like, as soon as you get the harpoon you should think "Hmm i should go to all those rings around the map"
and if you've been to the cold area you'd know there's 2 of them basically leading you into the deeper regions of the map
shakra doesn't leave mt fey until you've gotten the cloak so you'll always meet her on your 1st screen out of the area and realize heat spots exist and thats the area gimmick
If you're even slightly smart you'd also try to use a flint (the fire item) in the cold area & realize that it delays cold damage for a few seconds
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>>538716973
people calling this boss "good" are fucking delusional
she's after a gauntlet of FUCKING ANTS
her moveset is so fucking fast and ALL OF IT DOUBLE HITS
there's no safe spot in the arena when fighting her and she's tanky as shit unless you've gotten your 4th needle upgrade
genuinely awful boss design both the other dark hearts are objectively better and more fun in every single way
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>double jump without drifter cloak
is this actually possible or is it just coded into the game as a just-in-case for cheats & glitches
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>>538729338
I don't know what everyone is talking about, I only ever played him once and I came back later in the game and he was dead. You could just take the dice afterwards.
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>>538739869
if you mean the triple knifes, its in greymoor near the bird area
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>>538740187
I think speedtrannies are already looking for drifterless run and its definitely possible to get to a2 without it. I believe its also possible to conquer the mountain without float if you have the light trinket and silk hearts.
So yea technically yes, and good that they think about such things.
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>>538738685
>Her 3rd attack while dashing is random, it can be anything from 3rd dash to tentacles or jump.
I think this one is based on your positioning, if you jump over the dashes her 3rd will be the jump then dives down consistently.

I think jumping in the air must be triggering her jump attack and that's the only thing hitting me but I have no idea what is the tell for it.
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>>538740648
Dont think so because i always float her dashes, sometimes pogo the first and its always random, doesnt follow any pattern.
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>>538740150
if you can't handle the basic ant enemies that late into the game then I don't know what to tell you, it's only a few of them as well. Also you're supposed to react accordingly to what she does, just because she can potentially hit you anywhere doesn't mean theres no safe space against her attacks.
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Who should i bring broken weaver's tool to? Architect or forgemaster in the docks? It looks like each would make their own tool
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>>538740820
react to a boss that has barely any startup on most of her screen covering moves yeah I dont feel even slightly bad for tool spamming her
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>>538740883
apparently, your own house if you want a laser or architect if you want a gun that shoots triple shots. bringing it to forge daughter only gives you a gun that shoots 1 shot at a time
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>>538740612
>its definitely possible to get to a2 without it
i know that much but i thought the actual obstacle would be path to the clawline. unless i'm mistaken you need the drift cloak to get into the clawline cauldron area, and you need the clawline to do mount fay.
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>>538740802
if you float still and directly over so both dashes go under instead of to the side, if you are further she will do another dash
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>>538741139
Oh thanks, didn't know about the house
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Any tips for boss of act 2? Knives off screen and spiked floor are really annoying and I can't see the tells for her swipe attack.
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>>538741294
Oh forgot about that one, yea dont think there is alternate path unless glitching
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>>538741367
Its radiance but slow and if u never played HK then just make sure to dodge incoming attack first attack later
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>>538741139
Forge Daughter gives you 30 shots and does mid tier damage
Architect gives you 26 but does a bit less damage on average than the forge daughter variant (even with the 3 shot burst)
Weaver is 16 but does the most damage
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>>538734991
from what i know
>1 from the flea caravan
>1 from the food quest
>1 from whispering vaults
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>>538741519
Maybe I should put the game into windowed mode, it's the off screen attacks that I can't see fucking me up
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>>538741367
The swipe is the only move I struggled with she's so hard to see while doing it especially with how much of the screen is covered in bullshit all the time during the fight
Thankfully every other move in the fight is easy and fun to dodge so i never struggled as long as I just kept in the air away from the swipes
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soooo how does one traverse the mist? i know you can get something at the end of it but i just don't know what to do
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>>538741998
Play music to butterflies
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>>538741519
>>538741928
Did it!
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>>538741775
I don't know how people are missing the whispering vaults one when the nail guy says they had it at the citadel and you can see it from the other side in one of the first areas you explore when you get there, all you had to do it enter the place with a nail sign of all things
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>>538741529
>Forge Daughter gives you 30 shots and does mid tier damage
I feel it's the most reliable option though — safe, simple, easy to land, good in almost all cases.
Burst one tend to miss some shot very often, especially on smaller enemies.
Laser is slow and kinda unwieldy.
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Who /team scrub/ here
>Pollip Pouch
>Long Claw
>fast heal
>projectile tools
>compass
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>>538742562
forge daughter is the one for boss fights
laser has a windup and its perk of piercing, even through shields, doesn't come up against them
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>>538742910
>b-b-b-b-b-but you arent supposed to use the tools!!!
hang yourself if you used soul at all you didnt beat hk
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the game is way too difficult for me. just don't see myself beating it. i only have the high halls gauntlet and the frog boss i can do at the moment and both are so hard i dont see myself ever getting through. i'm just gonna wait till patches make the game significantly easier because this is absurd. hardest game i've ever played i think.
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>>538743574
It doesn't reload your ammo so it's actually a double runback
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Why the fuck do all spells have a gigantic windup time? I would love to use Sharpdart for iframes if it didn't take a millenium to execute. Getting hit during the windup stops the spell and doesn't return the silk.
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the green prince is so ass
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im getting real sick of the "reads how you play and changes difficulty accordingly" gameplay
>first time fighting a boss
>dont know the moveset
>die
>second time fighting boss
>understand the moveset
>get to final phase
>die
>third time fighting boss
>now completely different angles and movesets at phase one
what. so i just need to sandbag first try and hope i second try it or im fighting a buffed up boss for no reason? this is retarded
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Is poison tools trink as strong as it seems to be
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>>538743795
yeah
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>>538743795
It’s extra damage in a game where extra damage is hard to come by. So yes.
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>>538743752
I think you're confusing RNG on moves with some advanced attack pattern AI. This never once happened to me the entire time I played the game.
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>>538742562
I prefer the laser mostly because of the piercing and high damage per shot

most other piercing tools have an odd arc or move in weird ways where the laser just goes straight through everything you aim it at and blasts it to high heaven

Forge daughter is my 2nd pick though just because its such a reliable form of spammable damage to a single big target
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>>538742910
Long Claw makes shaman styles charge attack go like 1/3rd further and thats fucking insane im not swapping off that charm ever
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>>538743615
I saved her for act 3 so I got to use shaman against her after abusing tools for the entirety of act 2
Really made me enjoy the fight more
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ORNSTEIN AND SMOUG WAS SUPPOSED TO BE A MEME NOT A GUIDE
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>>538742910
tell TC to make tools not deal a gazillion more damage than an end game nail at every point in the game then
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>>538744838
who are you referring to?
Boss in deep docks?
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>>538743615
Well I beat her second go so no big deal. Great fucking fight. Easily my favorite boss so far. I feel like the reward I got is kind of useless though.
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>>538744981
My quarrel is that the clashing mechanic is fucked and enemies just feel like they ignore 50% of your nail attacks
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>>538744981
crafting kits are far easier to find than pale oils so tools will deal more damage than the needle at any stage of the game
doesn't help that the only payoff for striking with the needle is healing because all the spells suck and once the first silk heart is obtained clawline becomes free
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https://youtu.be/QpnCmEsRJzI
SOUL
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>>538745441
>e all the spells suck
thread storm is great THOUGH
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>>538742910
For me it's:
>shaman crest
>long claw
>volt filament
>weavelight
>three silk hearts
>pale nails
I see an enemy — I use pale nails. If it's still alive — I use pale nails. If it's a boss I run and dodge until I regen four silk. Then pale nails.
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this game is way too fucking hard for its own good man
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>>538745917
Yes, the mask is invaluable for the early game as it lets you tank one extra hit.
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>>538745206
That's the one that prompted this, yes, but there were some others too. Not even hard, just stop throwing so much shit on the screen, especially when i don't even have the i-frames and everything does contact damage
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>>538745965
It's really not. I never even played Hollow Knight and I'm doing fine.
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>>538746412
i played hollow knight and im getting shat on so bad i feel like just uninstalling and playing something fun. havent played something this hard in a very long time.
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>>538744838
>>538745206
>>538746168
the deep docks brothers were disappointing to me, they had untapped potential

the fight goes like
1 bro -> 1 bro with adds -> 2 bros -> 1 bro
and the 1 bro with adds phase is the hardest because it's the most chaotic

once the 2nd bro shows up you know the 1st one is low on health, so the end of the fight is an anticlimactic 1v1 with the 2nd bro who isn't very interesting by himself. they should've dropped the adds entirely but made the 2nd bro harder.
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>>538746480
it just takes getting used to, the issue with this game I think is that it just allows you to enter an area you don't need to progress and you're nowhere near strong enough to handle with no way of knowing it, HK difficulty peaks higher than it tho
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>>538746704
i'm 30 hours in my playthrough. i'm past the point where "i'm getting used to things" and yeah obviously HK peaks higher im not counting that content, the game itself doesnt count that as completion
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>>538746704
first sinner already felt like fighting against nkg with the sheer amount of shit onscreen
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>>538744425
>fighting phantom
>horizontal attacks
>consistently using slow dashes and easy to punish
>third attempt
>fast diagonal dashes out the gate
no
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>>538746969
Phantom is easy, just stay off the ground and dodge her single AA when it comes out
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>>538746969
she kept mixing it up for me, just because a boss throws out a different attack due to RNG doesn't mean they're reading how you play
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>>538746480
if you didn't beat the pantheon of hallownest, you didn't beat hollo knight
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>>538729012
>>538729248
Waaaaaaaah. WAAHHH. Thank you T^T Was already quitting, but this let me go a little longer. I can say I reached Act 2 now.

I went back to get Sherma before going through the second gate, but he wasn't at the bench any more. I thought he wanted to go together...
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>>538741998
>before you enter you see butterflies guiding you
>you enter the mist and see butterflies
>hmm maybe i need to interact with them somehow...
have you never played games before or something? the hint is obvious
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>>538747162
yeah, it unironically feels like TC designed silksong for this crowd. i just can't do it, game is way too hard.
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>>538747202
you'll find him again, don't worry
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>>538747323
>see butterflies guiding you when entering mist
>find butterflies
>follow them to nearest exit
>doesnt work
>ask
>need to play music
>the butteflies near an exit will actually direct you to a different direction
retard it was an arbitrary requirement to play le music
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Is this important?

>>538733576
>>538733502
Turns out I don't. Harpoon is enough.
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>>538747510
it allows the guy who makes silkeaters for you to make 2 at once if you complete the quest
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>>538747323
it completely stumps a surprising amount of people
joseph anderson was lost in the mist for like 40 minutes on his stream before he figured it out
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yeah i give up. game is way too hard, i cant do it. easily the hardest "soulslike" released in the last decade or so. maybe once theyre doing patching it ill try it again but for now its just so obscenely hard its not fun
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>the last thing I have to do is beat seth's high score at the mini-games
fuck everything else, this is where the real challenge is at
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>>538747971
If you're really getting that butt blasted just download some mods.
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>>538747971
I’m sorry to say that you’re just really bad. I’m primarily an FPS player but even I can still accomplish all of the challenging content in both HK games.
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>>538748113
i thought about downloading a mod that gives me an infinite supply of shards on respawn but i'd rather just wait until team cherry finishes their game. hollow knight got nerfed in 12 separate patches from launch to the last patch and i expect this one to be no different. i'm sure some insanely hard dlc content will be added for people like you though.

>>538748226
never claimed otherwise.
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I actually agree that the shard economy is completely fucked. A below average player just isn't going to be able to use tools at some point while a good player will be able to which will only make it easier for them. Extremely win-more design. Almost all streamers I'm watching who aren't HK speedrunners are clutching onto their shards like it's elixirs from Final Fantasy. That can't be design intention.
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>>538748489
Shard management isn't bad, you just have to farm roseries and trade them for shards at Bellhart. Of course it's still grindy but with Thief Insignia you farm rosaries fast
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>>538748489
I think the shards should be auto-collect, or at the least work with the magnet trinket. sure beads roll around a lot but shards go flying from some fossil deposits when you break them.
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>>538745917
Mask is 100% worth it. It's like having 1 or sometimes even 2 extra hp.
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wait so how do you get the architects melody without being able to go up to it without all 3 melodies?
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>>538748821
explore the cogwork core and you'll find out
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>>538748821
that's in cogwork core right? you only need clawline to open the path to it
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>>538692413
What's with people autistically bashing their head into something if they can't do it after a few times? Nigga go clear some other quests, get better tools, more masks, oils, then come back and do it again
But if you're failing it with max oils then LOL
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>>538746946
I didn't think it was that bad, it doesn't actually have that much health you just can't let it heal (i think it does heal at least)
second phase is way easier because it mostly does melee and stops running as much so you can throw poisoned bullshit at it to rush it, I didn't because it clutters the screen too much
to me it was more of a base radiance at most, probably closer to a dream warrior
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>>538748923
huh?
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>Volt thing adds only 5 damage and it is not even per hit
What did they mean by this
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>>538748993
You didn't enter the room on the top right of the cogwork core (it's below your icon)
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>>538748993
clawline the loop at the elevator room
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>>538748962
theres nothing for me to do besides do the ingredient quest which i wotn do fuck that.
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my favorite builds so far
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>>538692413
I just drilled the big guys as soon as they spawned and they fell like flies
every other enemy in the gauntlet is pretty easy to deal with it was honesty kinda fun
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Just 100%ed and beat the game, and I remembered one of the delivery quests I did earlier in the game
wtf was the point of the lacquer delivery to the mask maker? There was no follow up quest, no reward (I don't count rosaries since at that point in the game I had everything bought already)
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>>538692413
beast crest makes gauntlet fights cakewalk
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I just don't understand what is the fun of putting a fucking gauntlet before those act3 boss. What a fucking waste of time. Let me fucking learn the boss for fuck sake.

Last third of this game is just so frustrating. So many, many, many waste of time doing the same thing again and again for zero reason.
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>>538699404
I don't get it. Were snails in HK? It's been too long since I played, don't remember anything about any snails
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>>538748775
The thing about shard farming is that it is a waste of time. You get like 5 per enemy, even fewer and that's before accounting for loss due to spilling. Meanwhile you can buy a bundle for 50 rosaries at Bellhart, and it has 80 shells in it. Even in act1 you can farm the pilgrims trio east of the tavern for like 30-40 per run? That's significantly faster. And rosary drop rate keeps increasing steadily later.
Late game some large enemies drop 15 shards but again it's a waste of time tracking and killing these.
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>>538749695
the snail shaman is the guy who teaches you soul arts in hollow knight. most of the other snails were dead.
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>>538749646
Crust king is a fun fight despite how torturous the gauntlet before him is
and at least you have a shortcut to him after you're done with it

THE FUCKING ANTS THOUGH? OHHHHHHH FUCK THOSE
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>>538748489
People actually use tools so much they run out of shards? I had hundreds of them, 10+ bundles and like 5 beast bundles by the end of the game
Spamming tools is like using magic in Dark Souls, you're just robbing yourself of the intended experience which is meleeing a boss in a 1v1
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>>538749695
they're mostly dead, you get a charm from the corpse of one but there's one locked up inside soul sanctum being studied for their soul magic, it's where you get abyss shriek after you put him out of his misery
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Spoiler for Moorwing (one of the bosses about to get nerfed with a patch)
>at 1 HP
>run forward, thinking there might be a bench soon
>suddenly, boss fight
>notice that there were no doors or anything stopping me from running away
>just run back to the bench but notice the boss getting stuck
>come back after healing
>repeat it
>pic related

lmao
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>>538749916
Yeah I'm at the ants... The gauntlet is not hard at all, but I'm so bored of it.
Maybe I will try crust king before, I was not aware there was a shortcut after the gauntlet, only tried it once and died at the second room.
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>>538750049
that's the third spot I saw it getting stuck at, that's what they get for not putting him inside an arena and letting him annoyingly fly out of range all the time
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So why were the Pharloomians even abducting Weavers and Weaver mutts? What were they planning to do with them? What was going to happen to Hornet if her carriage didn't fall off a cliff on the way to the citadel? I feel like I missed this storybeat
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>>538750049
I killed him at that spot and thought this fucked had too much fucking HP lmao
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>>538750439
He does have too much HP, but that's intended by design because you're meant to find the "summon" who helps you fight him in a 2v1
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>hornet doesn't say shaw or adino once the whole game
this is bullshit
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>>538750385
To maintain their decadent kingdom since weavers generate and that's long lost to them I think
Waiting for the mossbag video too, I started ignoring lore entries halfway through
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I started using Reaper crest and it seems like the best one. Should I put all my memories in it?
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>>538750676
You get plenty of memories as you play. And reaper is pretty good anyway.
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>>538750540
>metroidvania that let's you explore freely has "intended" boss design that expects you to do specific things in a certain order.

No, that's literally anti-design.
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>>538750747
The NPC doesn't help that much, he misses most attacks.
The boss hp is bloated but the moveset is fair, it just takes awhile to get used to.
Whining about Moorwing won't get you far because it's a fair boss and when the game starts shoving bullshit down your throat, it will be way worse than this.
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>>538750747
And not checking every nook and finding said NPC is anti-exploration yohohoho
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>>538750867
I'm not whining, I exploded this boss because I skipped it by accident thanks to the flea caravan and when it was available I was way too strong at this point.

I'm just saying I doubt that the devs intended players to get the summon (I suppose it's the old knight?) for this fight since there is many ways to get there, or to make it spawn later like I did.
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>>538750747
The game is just very weirdly designed, it feels like some bosses' HP are balanced around tools so it takes forever with just hitting with needle

This game should not have had tools as MAIN source of damage
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>>538751171
The devs don't "intend" for you to get the NPC. It's just a nice thing to have if you walk a certain route, since you get to see him. He doesn't change the fight much, the boss focuses you, he does random attack and most misses. You get to meet him eventually regardless.
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>>538751171
>(I suppose it's the old knight?)
Yes
I'm pretty sure the only way to miss him is if you take the shortcut that enters the boss arena from the right side of the screen, as opposed to walking the normal way that enters from above
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>>538751273
>Oh no I have to use the things available to me to win??? WHY WHY WHY
You have more tools and ways to hit enemies. The game must be harder to compensate. This is simple logic anon.
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I don't understand why enemies in gauntlets don't drop shards. It'd solve this whole shard economy thing people are struggling with. You already only get limited uses between rests.
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>>538751340
I don't really remember. I fought him late in act2, way after having explored that level. I was actually surprised when a boss started in an area that I went through multiple times. I though he was some sort of secret optional boss.
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>>538751539
They really should, the game is just really jewish. Bosses not dropping rosaries is crazy.
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the pew pew architect silkshot seems like the coolest but also the worst version, unfortunate
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>>538751472
The thing is that the balance between tools is fucking horrible and some bosses just tank too much without tools and other just melt with tools
The balancing is so indie as fuck tbqh
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someone told me shakira can help you with the high halls gauntlet. how do i make this happen?
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Is Snitch Pick just bugged? It doesn't give any rosaries no matter how many times I Clawline enemies
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>>538752734
same, no idea
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>>538752734
>>538752758
Yes it being fixed next update is literally in the patch notes
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>>538745917
Where is this? I think I missed it...
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>>538747465
Silksong is DLC for Hollow Knight that got scope-crept into a standalone game. It was supposed to be what came after whatever the last free content expansion was.
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>>538750385
it seemed vague to me, kinda looked like silk wanted a successor of some kind, or it had something to do with wanting family again. the fact that silk resisted being torn apart by void to save lace, when even lace thought silk saw her as disposable, has some hint to it I think.
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>>538692686
>trusting 4 day reviews
shiggy
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>>538753989
cant believe this game has no double jump
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>>538753098
it's a secret tunnel by the bench in ant land
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>>538754404
can't believe shakra isn't in bilewater
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Does anyone else feel like the act 3 boss is kinda anti-climactic? I expected Lace Negro to be the pre-boss to the actual boss, but nope, game actually ends after beating her. It kind of doesn't feel right.
Like this entire dozens of hours long quest to find out wtf is happening in this kingdom and why Hornet was brought here ends in defeating the sassy little silk child instead of some actual evil big bad? There's no catharsis to it for me.
I can only presume this is intended and a future DLC will have the actual final boss like Godhome
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What's the exact algorithm on The Mist? It seems like during Phase 1, entering "wrong" exits does not punish you, but during Phase 2, if you enter the wrong exit even once, you'll be kicked back to Phase 1. Is this right?
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>find pilgrim clothes
>it says it protects against cold
>finds area that is cold
>can't use pilgrim clothes to fight it
???
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does reaper have naturally higher silk regen on hit or is it just during the binding effect?
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>>538754880
Only during biding effect
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>>538754880
binding and just swinging with wanderer gives more because its like 4 orbs per 1 bar
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>>538747465
You can, you just don't want to
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>>538755059
I think it's tied to your silk hearts so you could be getting a full extra bar per hit later on
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Should I just follow wherever elderbug hints me towards? I just beat the soul master and also have access to the deepnest and royal sewer area but he's saying i should check out the crystal mine shaft place
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>>538755221
pretty much, HK is rather simple as long as you go to the places which you weren't you are fine
even accessing true ending isnt that obscure, rather grindy
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>>538755059
>>538754912
reaper has the best moveset even without the silk to be desu
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>>538755502
too slow
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>>538755502
too weak
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>>538754763
A Godhome style ending wouldn't really make any sense.
The only reason it works in Hollow Knight is because the Radiance only exists in the Dream, so when you kill her there, you're not killing some dream facsimile of her, you're literally killing the Radiance and the process by which the Knight reaches her fulfills the Godseeker's attunement and he can ascend to godhood.
Grandma is the main antagonist. Act 3 is more like a clean up and epilogue.


It's meant to be more of an inversion of Hollow Knight, in that, the Pale King sacrificed his children to save his Kingdom.
In Silksong, Silk will sacrifice her Kingdom and herself to save Lace.
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>>538755556
very rare opportunities to spam damage on bosses anyway imo
>>538755606
yeah bit dumb that it says "heavy hits" but doesn't do 1.5x damage
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>>538755316
okay sweet thanks i just wanted to make sure i wont miss out on anything
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Am I supposed to fight these guys?
I'm 4 hours in
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>>538755824
They're a huge filter if you fight them too early but piss easy if you keep them for later
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>>538755824
you can get a damage upgrade beforehand IIRC but other than that sure
they're great fun
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Y'all sleeping on witch crest + claw mirrors, just git gud and it cleans house
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>>538755824
yes
they are THE FILTER
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>>538755930
>just git gud
Name 35 crests that are still bad once you have gotten gud anyway
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>>538755930
it's the first thing I tried, works great, just not my go to since you can't heal for platforming sections and the downslash is weirdly inconsistent at times
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>>538755824
Do it, I love them
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WHICH CREST HAS THE BEST MOVESET??!?!?!
No discussion of color slots
No discussion of bindings
Hard mode: No "Wanderer because HK moveset"
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>>538755974
Nta, I saw how my friend tried to beat em today, that was fun to watch since he never used magic (He had a buff for magic damage) while also not healing in the saw fase which the only healing window in whole fight.
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okay i'm glad I got the Mount Fay version of the Silkshot, makes grinding rosaries feel very satisfying
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>>538756276
Wanderer because its a straight down pogo and anything else is haram I don't care about any other moves
Reaper is okay because it's also straight down pogo but it's delayed so it doesn't feel right to me
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>>538756373
i didnt use spells until godhome desu, there is something satisfying about nail hits and same resource being used for spells and heal is throwing people away
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>>538756276
Charm slots & Bind gimmicks are vital to the playstyle of some of them, you can't really exclude them
If we're only talking regular attacks then the obvious answer is Wanderer
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Karmelita is a weird boss. I have no problem dodging and counterattacking any of her moves on their own. But the way she combos those moves somehow always gets me one way or another.
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>>538756276
Shaman is ultra cheesy because of the massive range on the attack
Reaper is great for all the platforming section
No one size fits all
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>>538756530
>but it's delayed
I like the range
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Hunter crest is so powercrept it's unreal
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>>538756276
Architect even not considering the slots
Charge attack is so good
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>>538756858
>devs want you to use it so much they buff it in the middle of your playthrough
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>>538756929
huh?
No they don't
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>>538756993
Anon...
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>>538756858
it gets buffed, twice

>>538756929
I think it's just because they didn't want to give you too powerful a moveset earlier on but also wanted it to compete with the other ones.
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>>538757096
???
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>>538756638
>Charm slots & Bind gimmicks
You didn't beat the game
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>>538757232
>twice
Ok now I'm curious
When's the second time
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How do I make Pilby move? Doing steel soul, and they're still alive and gave me their name, I also murdered the Tyrant, and being careful not to trigger their rampage. I believe it happens if you start act 2? But I read that some people report them moving to pilgrim's rest before act 2 starts.
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>>538757390
use all your lockets
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>fighting some random bug (one of the stick insect guys)
>he's two hits away from death
>throw a trap on him since I just bought that new shiny tool
>it hits him like 4 times
>he's still alive
???????
Does it do like 1/3 my nail damage?
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>>538757457
tyrant rampage can definitely happen before act 2, i thought it was tied to getting needolin but i'm not sure
he died to the rampage in my only run, idk how to make him move
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>>538756276
I don't really get the love for Wanderer — yeah it's fast and has convenient pogo but the range is so tiny that it never felt comfortable for me to use.
Hunter is probably the most versatile one. Good moveset all around even though diagonal pogo requires some getting used to.
Reaper is what I've used the most. The alternating pattern of normal and upwards attack is kinda annoying, but excellent pogo and dash attacks make up for that.
Beast is """""special""""". Absolutely unusable pogo attack, all other moves are decent. But since you need pogo a lot for platforming and stuff beast is not a crest I'd pick.
Witch has excellent moveset, I think it's actually the best one. But the healing makes it awkward to use.
Architect is great. It's pogo attack is also not great, but not unusable. It's charge attack is god-tier. It's gimmick of being tool-focused crest is also great because there is a lot of strong offensive tools.
Shaman has a very "safe" moveset because the range is huge. Shame you get it so late.
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whats actually the fastest rosary farm in act 2
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>>538758262
high hall bench, drop down and kill the 2 big guys with thief insignia
110 per run
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>>538758487
Just keep going to the first shrine bench and then run back to high halls, you're missing out on some effortless extra cash
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>>538758057
Beast is extremely good in gauntlets because offense is defense
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>>538758879
Yeah, and you can unga bunga some bosses with it as well. But it's kinda pain in the butt to change it specifically for one fight and then switch to a different crest for traversal.
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i hate these citadel simon says puzzles i'm too retarded to remember them so i pause and write the solutions in a notepad file and it's just tedious
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>>538759183
Write them in a real, physical notepad and you have unlocked pure SOVL
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why was great mother silk so much easier than any other bossfight in the game holy shit
these attacks were so fucking easy to dodge i beat it on the first attempt
tell me theres a secret actually difficult final boss
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Just killed Skibididancer. Good fight. Used Shaman crest so I guess I didn't win the game :^)
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>>538759341
Act 3.
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>>538759341
you've still got an entire act of the game to go anon
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I'm 8.7h in, when do the annoying runbacks that normalfags complained about start to happen? Bosses that raped my ass the most were Savage Beastfly and Morrowing, and they both had a runback of like 15 seconds
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>>538759452
>>538759476
how do you get to it? just kill her and fuck off instead of absorbing her?
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>>538759503
There are some 3-4 minute runback in the game
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>>538759548
You need to have done all the Wishes and found all the Fleas and then the Caretaker of First Shrine will tell you what to do.
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>>538759660
>
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>>538759548
you don't need to do all wishes or find all fleas
I did most wishes, including silk and soul, the caravan had moved to the lake and I got to act 3 with 3 fleas or so left to get.
basically keep checking on the Caretaker after you do anything. you probably don't need to do trash quests that give rosaries
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Is there some list of all NPCs?
I don't like souls like NPC quest design. But It kinda works in Silksong, for example I open a gate for Sherma, now she is somewhere behind that gate, etc.
But for, example, I found a dude Blue Prince in a Cell, I opened the Cell, and he sang about his lover. I suspect he went to a Citadel, but I can't find him anymore. Did he stuck at the Sinners Road?
What about aiming trials? Where do I start it?
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>>538760361
He should be in Choral Chambers, near the center.
After that he goes to where the Cogwork dancers arena
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How do you access this area?
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>>538760580
Wait until you get the quest to access it
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>>538760580
It is accessed from below
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>>538760613
I've already beat the final boss, when is the quest
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I found Seth again after fighting him and his dialogue was really interesting. Is there anything more after that it is it possible DLC bait? He left from the spot.
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>>538760692
It's a main story quest so just keep playing
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>>538760751
Unless it's Act 3 I've done basically everything.
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>>538760839
If it can only be one thing then it can only be one thing, anon
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>>538760729
You can meet him at a few other spots before he settles down in a certain area
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>>538760729
you have to keep finding him in different areas, he eventually ends up at the flea caravan where you have to beat his mini-game high scores
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>>538758057
>felt comfortable
You are not suppose to feel comfortable. Wanderer it's between Beast and Hunter in terms of antiboss tactics.
You go in, face tank damage, hit 8 times, dash away, heal, dash back, face tank damage, 8 hits, stun boss, heal, etc

With beast, you build up Bind and then you go in, with Hunter you methodically dodge and counterattack to build up buff and silk magic.

Reaper is just the best of all worlds, last three are OP, I don't like them
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>>538760839
All fleas are findable in act 2.
Go to an area below and try to find away up
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>>538760908
Worst part about 4chan is I always get the mouth breathers responding like they're some cryptic riddler. "Act 3" that's all that needs to be said you dumb fucking baboon.
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>>538759503
game is long anon. buckle up.
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>>538761050
You were already told it's a main story quest you troglodyte and your response was "UHH BUT I DIDNT DO IT YET?" no shit retard then it's a story quest you haven't done yet how can you not figure this out
The fucking irony of your post
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THE FUCKING SAVAGE BEASTFLY JUST WON'T DIE GODDAMMIT IT'S THE MOST TEDIOUS SHIT AND HORNET ANIMATIONS FOR EVERYTHING TAKE A MILLION YEARS I'M GOING INSANE I HATE IT
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>>538757457
Ok apparently the trigger is to initiate act 2, and don't visit bone bottom camp if you beat the first Tyrant already. It does need to be dead for them to move otherwise I believe.
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>>538761050
Sorry about that one zoomer-chan next time I'll cover the answer in yellow paint and objective markers. Use your fucking head dipshit.
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>>538756530
Reaper pogo is insanely forgiving. Wide arc of attack allows you to jump up by parrying attacks, which were swing behind your back.
You can jump away from Moorwing claw attack and pogo up, by parrying with your ass.
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>>538761050
>"continue the story"
>cryptic riddle
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>>538760949
Is there a rematch again him or anything interesting or is it just flavor
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>>538761451
Story's over outside of Act 3, retard. They might as well say "100% the game".
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wtf is all this evil platforming in memorium
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>>538761580
>Hasn't been to act 3 but knows it exists
>"THERE'S NO MORE STORY AFTER ACT 2"
This fucking guy
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>>538761580
>Story's over outside of Act 3
Ok? So? Who the fuck told you anything about act 2? Continue the story means continue the story not continue the story in act 2 specifically, stop hallucinating parts of the conversation that don't exist
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>>538761256
The lava one?
Fight him after getting 7 or more mask shards, so you will be strong enough.
And use fire protection, so you can just fall into a lava and receive 1 damage, instead of touching him and receive 2.
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>>538700638
I assumed this guy was going to bust through the door eventually and murder the shop so I decided to keep coming back only for when I actually got in there in act 3 I found out the guy fucking died because I took too long
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>>538760986
>last three are OP
I don't think Witch is OP with it's questionable healing mechanics.
I mean I know that technically it can be an upside because you can use healing as an offensive tool. But on practice it's VERY tricky to pull off because you need to heal in front of enemy's face and time it so that it doesn't hit you in the process.
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>>538761580
imagine leaving a movie theater 40 minutes into a movie because "the story's over except for the final act"
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>>538761509
you get a memento for it. Not necessary for 100% but its there if you want to do it
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>>538761710
>>538761723
Two retards holding each other's dicks because one gets called out for their Riddler cosplay. If you can't answer a straight question with a straight answer don't respond. I don't give a shit you were born in 1998 and you're unemployed, it's a 20 dollar game and if this is high stakes to you you should venture outside.
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>>538761854
Combining witch heal with the claw mirrors turns it into a 6 hit nuke that also heals you. Mastering the callout is also part of it, but it's worth the investment.
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>>538761854
This is a turn based game, you dodge, then heal. Also, you don't even need to heal. If you are healing, that means, you made 2-3 mistakes, so chill, dodge away, throw in some tools, and go back.
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>>538761950
"Continue the story" is literally the most straight answer you could get
You're an honest to god retard
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>>538761950
Dumb fuck you answered your own question and got mad when people called you a retard. Easiest way to avoid that is to not be a retard.
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You did figure out the mist on your own right anon?
You're not a brainlet right anon?
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The act 2 is such a dreadfully boring slog i'm about to drop this fucking game. And i've played the vast majority of modern metroidvanias.
Whoever thought shell shards is a good system shouldn't touch video game development ever
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>>538762665
I've got spoiled by reading Silksong threads before I even reached that area.
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>Eva implies her situation isn't born out of malice
>Weaver texts often want to escape their circumstances, but they call the foundation of the kingdom "naive" at best
So is great Grandmother just a retard who believes absolute control, and the way things are running, and the freaking nature of the place placing sin on someone from even being born just because, and dooming an entire habitat to death also just because, is not because she's an inherently malicious, she just naturally believes this is the way things are supposed to be?
That's kinda hard to believe. Or is Eva just placing too much trust in the system despite her situation? Cause first sinner says grandmother lied.
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>>538762665
After traipsing around for like 10 minutes yeah
I already knew the solution had to be the lil flies but hadn't thought of using the violin yet, there was always a group of 2 flies and one of 3 - assumed one of them would be the "correct" one
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>>538762665
I just run around like a headless hornet, I had a feeling, that exit is on the East, progress is on the North and Boss is on the West, so I just run until something changed. Also area is very easy.
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>>538762708
I heartily agree. Aside from the shards there are tons of issues with act 2 that makes it last forever while the content quality is just really low.
I got to act 3 and things got a lot better though.
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>>538755915
>>538755974
>>538756140
>>538755918
RESPECT.
I did a nice fight.
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>>538762665
I kept wandering and fell back to the start, then I realized the maps were repeating, and I got an idea from remembering the white butterfly that saved Hornet at the start, and how there were some around, so I tried interacting with them in various ways.
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>>538762665
yeah, wasn't hard, especially since I've looked for every excuse to use the needolin
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I don't understand how people are spamming tools so much they actually run out of shards, I played probably all of act 1 and act 2 while hardcapped on shards
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>>538762953
Is there a single boss fight in Silksong as epic as this one?
Even my wife appreciated music and my rhythmic moves, it's like a dance. Maybe Phantom?
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>>538763136
Clockwork dancers is pretty great in that regard.
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Holyshit, even the mobs bow to me
GOTY
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>>538763093
Did you donate to Bonebottom twice?
How do you fight through the enemy spam rooms? Did you find exploding pumpkin? A gun?
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>>538763285
>Did you donate to Bonebottom twice?
Yes
>How do you fight through the enemy spam rooms?
Hit them with my nail
I 100%ed so I found everything yeah
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>>538763285
>How do you fight through the enemy spam rooms?
you know you have a nail right anon
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>>538763136
Karmelita
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>You can now aim all directional silk/tool attacks with a mouse
>BUT: every boss and every enemy become harder
Would you take a deal?
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https://youtu.be/IMAX7JlVTSY
I PRESENT THE MOST UNDERRATED SILKSONG OST
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>>538763526
i dont use tools but i would like harder bosses.
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>>538763526
No, because I don't like playing this kind of games on KB+M and using right stick to aim usually sucks.
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>>538762893
Yeah
The new "levels" have all been garbage. The game has an audacity to throw repeated minibosses from act 1 but with even more retarded adds. Combat rooms are all the same and give zero reward. I don't feel any character progression because of the retarded charm system and charms themselves have been insanely boring, there are no synergies and nothing fun to discover.
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>>538763526
I would take the deal and continue to play on controller.
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>>538763378
>>538763402
IT'S NOT A NAIL IT'S A NEEDLE
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>>538763526
>enemies with attacks, don't deal contact damage
>But everything deal x2 damage.
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>>538748489
>A below average player just isn't going to be able to use tools at some point
Seriously? I don't think I'm so good a player (this is me >>538747202 ; 23 hours in and only beat Last Judge), but I play without tools or even using the RB button. I literally did not use tools or RB for any boss nor arena/gauntlet. It's to the point where I get annoyed when I find more shard's cause it's absolutely useless for me.
Here's my Last Judge battle. She's the most recent boss I beat: https://files.catbox.moe/wo8f7q.mkv
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>>538763694
Everything already deals x2 damage in Silksong!
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>>538763723
>I literally did not use tools or RB for any boss nor arena/gauntlet.
Try tools, that buff your damage/heals/speedup you. These are amazing
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>one last mossberry in memorium
>druid upgrades the charm with it
cute
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I HATE FLEA JUGGLE
I HATE FLEA JUGGLE
I HATE FLEA JUGGLE
I HATE FLEA JUGGLE
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If I have the fractured mask, and I get hit by a combo attack at 2 HP damage in two parts with the mask still there, does the first strike eat the mask, and the second one kill me, or does the mask eat both the attacks and then breaks?
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>>538761509
Seth is a character made for make a wish foundation
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>>538764182
Flea juggle is the only one I got highscore on the 2nd set of highscores lol
Dodge and Pogo can eat my ass
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>>538763136
Clockwork dancers are pretty much mantis lords
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>>538761729
>the lava one
>there's more than one
FUCK.

No, the one in Hunter's March
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>>538764229
Getting hit while mask is up always makes you live with 1 HP, no matter if you take 1, 2, or 300 dmg
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>>538763908
I have the flea drink that speeds me up, but I can't use stuff like that. If Hornet moves faster, I have to readjust to her new speed, so unless it's a 24/7 effect, it'll throw me off when I activate it.
I will very likely use any tools that passively or auto ups my damage or heal amount though once I come across them.
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>music cuts off
>silence
>level expands
lemme guess its gonna be some annoying ass boss fight 5 steps forward
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where's the second sentinel during act 3
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>>538764605
You guessed wrong
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>>538764697
>game isnt trying to fuck with the player for once
a blessing
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>>538764410
I'm the other way around, pogo I got 70 on my first try and dodge only took 4 tries
I've been stuck on juggle for an hour
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>>538764182
flea dodge was my personal hell, always managed to flub it last second
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>>538764558
Yes, but certain attacks deal multiple damage in a multi hit combo, which is what I'm wondering if it'll hold up against. Or even 3 damage from Grandmother's grab attack.
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>>538764558
>>538764229
Nah, if you receive 2 damage hit, from a boss/lava/bomb you survive,
But if you fall into saws/combo you are dead.
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>>538764827
Oh, no, you'll still be fucked on moves that have delayed hits
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>>538764605
Future dlc entrance
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>>538764813
how
juggle is so much easier
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>>538764505
Ok. Take your time. This is a tedious careful fight. You need to have silkstorm ready every moment in a fight. So when she summons the second minion, you need to instantly kill it with silkstorm. So focus on getting silk from the boss, the moment she summons focus on dodge and killing guys.
You need to ignore killing fat flies let the boss smash it. The crawlers need to be slapped away. The flying smol dudes, are the most annoying as they dodge boss smash attack. Try not to be near the wall, as its a dead sentence.
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>>538761256
When he face pounds the ground that's the safest time to hit him imo. After the third face pound is set to miss, that's also probably the best time to heal. His face pound also kills the other enemies. His rushes are deceptively fast, so it might be better to just focus on dodging them when it happens, than to find opportunity in them.
My gameplay is trash, but here's my battle with him if it helps: https://files.catbox.moe/8l9rxr.mkv
(No RB usage, of course.)
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I may be retarded, but I'm getting filtered by Docks brothers.
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>>538766346
They can be pretty annoying. Make sure to equip the bell that reduces flame damage.
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>>538766346
I raped the shit out of them with the fire weapon buff
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>>538765084
juggle feels entirely up to fate if I can reach a flea while bounce and dodge were all up to my own skill
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>>538722180
how do these 2 keep getting more and more based every time i see anything about them
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>>538722180
tfw missed their duel on act 2 so now I'm forever locked out of their journal entry
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>>538766804
I'll try that. Because my tri-pins don't do shit anyway.
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>>538767297
WHAT
WHAT THE FUCK
HOW
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>>538742910
the only difference is i stopped using the compass since the entire hk1 community acted like it was a huge noob crutch that wasn't supposed to even be in the game, i mean i used it all the way thru my first hk playthru but have been going without in SS and despite occasional annoyance it's actually not so bad. doesn't hurt that it lets me use more of the yellow tools i like like the mega dash and stability cuffs
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>>538701592
Here, Hornet's fluffy little Ghost.
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is the far right side of the mountain (above castle's spikes) supposed to remain not fully discovered, as in no clear map edge?
top too?
I tried jumping all the way over there but got basically black screen and it seemed like I was holding onto something and had to let go to drop down, but still shadowy on the map
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>>538743752
soulslike design and it's been a part of most challenging games for the last 15 or so years. you really need to get used to it already bro, it's a lot more fun than old game bosses where you find out the pattern and beat them effortlessly in like 5 minutes
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>>538767624
cute
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my left ring finger is going numb from jumping. send help...
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>>538767297
We get to fight them? Where? Don't want to miss it too.
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Bilewater runback makes me so unreasonably angry. Every single failed jump or needle has me making angry gorilla noises. The rest of this gauntlet better be piss-easy.
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>>538767717
It's part of a different map
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>>538768125
>The rest of this gauntlet better be piss-easy.
anon...
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>>538767624
Hornet is me.
Ghost is this image.
Adorable image.
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>>538766804
Gottem.
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>>538768125
>The rest of this gauntlet better be piss-easy.
KEKAROOOOOOOOO
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Does the game lock/end any questline if I progress too far? I just got the third melody.
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>>538768516
I pretty much haven't unequipped that thing, way too much damage
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I "fell" through the wall on the final boss in act 3 twice. If you jump next to it while the boss is doing their own jump+spin attack, you can get knocked back through the wall somehow and be stuck there. The boss stops materializing the next time it jumps away and there's nothing to do from there on other than quitting to menu.
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>>538768319
>>538768517
I know. This game doesn't work like that. This fucking game.

>>538768552
I'll second that. Strongly considering just doing the rematch with Lace after the melodies and seeing what happens next.
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>>538767543
>>538768020
I genuinely have no idea where because I combed the pretty pretty thoroughly and never saw a place to duel him but there's a journal entry for him according to steam guides
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>>538767624
Blessed
>>538768552
>>538768737
I'm pretty sure you can go up the elevator with the melodies and do the boss fight after, then you're at the point that you can complete the game and get the bad/neutral endings or you can go and do the prerequisites to start the true ending act (which is a point of no return for some things)
Even if you do the bad/neutral endings I'm sure continuing your save just drops you at before the final boss so you can go back and do either other shit or do the true ending, the game never really locks you out of anything equipment wise except for the silkshot choice.
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>>538769112
He's at the top of the vaults, that place that looks like a rooftop
He wasn't there for me so I assume you need to revisit it after you visit it the first time
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>literally zero benches
How is this good gameplay design again?
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>>538769149
I'm a little worried about missing out on stuff, but I probably shouldn't be. First playthrough doesn't have to be perfect, nor should it be.
This is the cope I will use when I inevitably skip Bilehaven.

>except for the Silkshot choice
I regret getting the triple-shot version. Didn't realize you could get different ones. It's barely any different than the triple knives, and in fact is just worse. If it does more damage then I can't even tell.
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>>538769583
Just because you missed them doesn't mean they don't exist
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>>538769615
You can edit your save with a save editor.
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>>538769615
The triple shot version is probably matched to the laser, the one you take to forge daughter is probably the worst one.
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Here's a very strange interaction you can get with lifeblood, from the tool in wormways + extra.

If you get +9 lifeblood hearts at once, they'll all become unstable and break on themselves, and then change Hornet's health to nothing but lifeblood, that self regen on it's own. Trying to bind won't heal you, you can only naturally regen now, one every 6-7 seconds I think?
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>>538769583
see >>538724859
The runback is still fucking horrible, but it's better than going all the way from the tram.
This is definitely the hardest area, though. At least from what I've found; maybe that electric area is worse, wherever it is.

>>538769713
How dare you say such depraved words to me?

>>538769764
>laser
Whatever that is.
Point is it's worse than this basic bitch tool I've been using basically the entire game. It's slower, pushes you back, has less spread, and costs silk, all in exchange for a damage boost so small that I can't even notice it, if it even exists.
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>>538770208
>How dare you say such depraved words to me?
I mean, the game doesn't seem to have a way to change what silkshot you decide to make at all, I wonder if they'll ever patch a way in.
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>>538746969
>>538743752
>umm, yes, this boss is highly advanced as it countered my every move
>sample size = 3
just because it isn't a scripted boss doesn't mean it's a smart boss, just like how the flies aren't actually input reading, they just backstep as soon as you get close, no matter if you attack or not
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>>538769947
I wonder if you can abuse that with architect for ez platforming like with hive charm.
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>>538769583
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I need a hint for the pre-Act 3 quest, I have no idea where the hermit is. IIRC there is stuff just below Bellhart but I have no idea how to access that.
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>>538770434
That's how you do it, yes.
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>>538770485
Check the bell beast area for secrets.
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>>538770485
Take your dog to bellheart
Push your stick to the right and keep holding it
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>>538770323
The dialogue from the architect was all "I can fix it, but it might turn out different than intended or if you had someone else do it." There's not supposed to be a way to change it.
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>nuu wants to troon out
kek
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>>538769764
Amusing how the best version is Hornet banging her shell against it.
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>>538769947
Oh hey, that might be good for this horrible Bilewater run-
>platforming with architect
Oh right, nevermind, of course not.
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>>538770856
????
she's saying she wishes that she could find cone beast's lover.
What in that dialogue suggests trooning out?
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>>538758487
Is it faster than just instakilling the three pilgrims outside of halfway house? With thief insignia they drop a total of 47 per run and it takes literally no time to kill them. Does the additional 63 rosaries make up for the time difference in the long haul?
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>>538770856
The fuck are you talking about? Nuu is just saying she wishes she could have both of them dead for her to study, since they're a freak who enjoys tasting dead creatures.
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are you able to kill both conchbosses? I thought I got bother of them with my storm attack but no.
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>>538771112
I hate these fuckers, they're only slightly worse than the mosquitos in putrid ducts.
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>>538771112
Just pogo it
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>>538771204
No, just the one. The other comes back way latter for revenge.
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>>538697757
around snitchflies dont close your eyes
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>>538755915
I fought them early and won. Just be patient.
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It took until almost the end of the game to get good with it but I think witch is my favorite crest. Unless an enemy is too fast than it becomes a liability.
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>>538755915
Are they really a filter? The first time I came across them I won relatively easily, it's just a matter of being patient really.
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>>538771875
Yeah, 7 years ago HK threads were full of complaints about them
They were the beastfly/moorwing of HK
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>>538767624
She's squeezing the void out of him
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>>538771306
I know I just wanted to see if it would eventually come up to me or if I had to get to it myself
I ended up running out of patience and just I killed it
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>>538771973
Do people find moorwing hard? It took me like 5 tries.
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>>538755824
>>538762953
Ghost's wives by combat...
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Who kills the dice guy?
Who kills the ant merchant?
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>>538772080
I dont know but people complained enough for team cherry to nerf him
same thing for sister splinter
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I'm almost at the end and still only have one silk heart, the one from Bell Beast way back at the start. What gives?
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>>538769947
Is this permanent or does it go away when you die? Wonder what the implications of this are
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>>538772294
The silk heart bosses are optional and hidden
One in The Slab
One in The Ward
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>>538772294
Second silk heart is in the whiteward. You need to be able to use rings to obtain the key to the lower level.
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>>538772080
Yeah, and hard in a bad way. His random flight movement can make his projectiles behave really weirdly, he can dive in from off-screen without any warning, and the 2 damage feels really bad.

>>538772423
>>538772429
>the Slab
Oh right, I found that key.
>Whiteward
I fucking knew there had to be something more there.
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>>538772107
we may never know
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>>538772080
Freaking vinny, who often sucks hard at video games beat it first try, pre nerf, and instantly went "how does this thing need a nerf?"
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>>538759503
Idk but some people were bjtching about the last judge run back and I did it in like 20 seconds so idk what their problem is
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>>538772330
If you sit on a bench it goes away. The log entry for the small lifeblood flies have Horne stating her unique condition makes her immune to the "darker" aspects of lifeblood, but even she has limits, so +9 hearts is her limit before it infuses her entire being with lifeblood until she sits down to rest.
Knight probably withstands infinite amounts of it cause he is made of void and meant to be a vessel in the first place.
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>people itt say using tools is cheap
How come nobody ever said this about spells in HK?
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What's in this room (or the one to the right) besides this fucked up enemy? I can't find anything.
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>>538772947
Because using spells is a balance between healing and doing damage
Tools are literally free
>shards
idk how shitters run out I was perma capped on em
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>>538772820
I like how silksong showed us it was taboo for a reason
honestly almost everything in pharloom makes the pale king look really fucking good in hindsight
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>>538759503
It's less the time and more about how involved they are. And they do get way worse than Bloatfly and Moorwing.

>>538772693
Perfect example. 20 seconds of running is not the same as 20 seconds of platforming.
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>>538772537
>dive from off-screen without any warning
Actually, it makes a specific sound when it dives and even during the dive itself. I specifically used this to defeat it by running from one end of the arena to the other which would force it to always do an incredibly long dive to close the distance. It can maintain its dive for a huge distance and you can hear it coming from across the map. Doing this means that it will never use its blade attacks in a useful manner, though it’s obviously kind of a pathetic way to take the fight.
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>>538772080
>>538771973
this doesn't make sense, the mantis fight was what made me want to keep playing, it is an alltime best fights in the game
and moorwing's difficulty stems entirely on his bad positioning (always slightly too high to hit and avoid the dive, always at the edge of teh screen where you can barely see him) and completely out-of-nowhere dives
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>>538773121
It's 20 seconds of running AND platforming combined. Have you even beaten last judge? If so you'd know it's platforming.
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>>538772980
Wasn't there something on the right behind the door?
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>>538773813
it only has 2 maybe 3 bell jumps, is that really parkour?
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I'm fairly sure every single miniboss i fought in act 2 had adds
In fact i don't remember a miniboss without ads outside moorwing
This is dogshit
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>>538773813
That's what I mean, yes.
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>>538773994
>Missed out on TROBBIO!
Truly, a life as miserable as yours is nothing to wish for any man
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>>538771232
>mosquitos in putrid ducts
At least you can have fun feeding those asshats to the tentacle flowers.
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What the fuck did I pay 950 for?
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>the quest where Zaza is panicked and leads you to a void corrupted Garmond
>after you win it stays there with his corpse

Made me tear up
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>>538773076
I don't remember Pale King being that bad other than throwing fertilized eggs inside the tartarus and fucking off to the hyperbolic time chamber after hollow knight started leaking, he's the one that even gave most of those bugs a conscience in the first place
I need to see a compilation of all lore but from what I saw Pharloom looks more like the royal chaste enslaved weavers for their silk, it came to bite them in their ass and their society crumbled without silk I don't know what grandmother silk gets out of reanimating corpses with silk
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>>538774234
This is what confuses me, if Pale King is what gave the bugs their higher conscious, why are the bugs in Pharloom intelligent? How do pilgrims even exist if the wasteland they travel to reach Pharloom robs them of their minds?
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>>538774171
>come back to that area hours later
>he's still sitting there

>>538774426
He's the one who gave the bugs in that area consciousness, but even without him some others already had it like the bees
All this means is that the bugs over there were just 30 IQ mongoloids and he made them 80 IQ doctors and engineers
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>>538774426
Obviously Pale King doesn't do that, and its propaganda
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>>538774234
Silk enslaved the weavers herself if I understand correctly, she views them as her children and her property.
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these guys seems awfully familiar. were they present in the first game?
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>>538774591
>the sign outside Hallownest says it is the last and only civilization
Checks out, dude was a propagandist.
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What happens if the flea caravan moves a second time, and you try to fight judge?
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>nearly all of the bosses except Silk get cool rematches with roided up forms
>Silk, one of the easiest bosses in the game, gets nothing despite the entire game hyping her up and Act 3 teasing us with the potential of a void infused rematch
JOBBER OF THE YEAR
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>>538774156
Make him eat all the eggs.
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I kinda want a boss rush mode, but I don't wanna fight beastfly or sister splinter...
maybe a boss refight would be better
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Just finished the game at 97%, anyone else feeling... Dissatisfied with the ending?
It just feels like a lot of things were never addressed explained, or elaborated on? Like, who made pharloom (it didn't seem like grandma)? Why the cult and the pilgrims? Why did grandma create the weavers? Why is she cursing everyone? Why is she asleep?
You know?
True final boss feels kind of anticlimactic too, not even a full screen title card?
And I wish we got to return to hallownest at the end, it just feels wrong to never go back home...
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>>538774234
Didn't he create an entire race of void kids and then kill them all trying to make one that doesn't feel anything to use a Radiance prison?

>>538774426
I think bugs can and have gotten higher consciousness in various forms from multiple different sources. There were already tribes in the area that became Hallownest before the Pale King turned up. It stands to reason there could be other civilizations and pockets of sentient bugs elsewhere in the world.
>How do pilgrims even exist if the wasteland they travel to reach Pharloom robs them of their minds?
I think it's less the wasteland robbing them of their minds and more them just getting too far from the source of their consciousness. For the Pale King, at least. Maybe it's different for other bugs.
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>>538774879
It doesn't move until act 2 and you don't get to act 2 without fighting judge
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>>538774156
If you died and your shadow is still out there, she allows you to get it back through her services.
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>>538774997
>you don't get to act 2 without fighting judge
what about the mist? it's an alternate route to act 2
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>>538775089
I don't know actually, is the door to the mist open that early? Is the exit?
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>>538774749
Doubly so when you remember the entire plot of Hollow Knight is grounded in a religious war between the Radiance and the Wyrmcult
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>>538774997
>and you don't get to act 2 without fighting judge
You can enter it through the mist.
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>quit game in bellhart
>come back to hornet being tied up like the other bugs
Well that was scary
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Is there no way to talk with trobio as an NPC? Wanted to talk to the freaking guy because he seemed cool, but he just fucks off after you fight him both times
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>>538775339
Damn did you take a screenshot?
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>>538775339
Ah yeah, that was really cool.
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>>538775402
No but you can find a voice recording of his painful whiteward surgery, most likely done without any form of anesthesia or whatever, and hear his pained groans as their tear through his flesh.
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Is there any reason why I should free, or save the asshole snitchfly? What happens to his shop if I Don't anyway?
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Is it just me or the fights are just tedious? It's not even that they're hard per-se it's just enemies keep on coming and everything drags on endlessly. I'm 20 hours in and I'm already getting tired of the fights.
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>>538775786
Wait that was him?
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>>538776456
His name is in the recording I believe. Anyway I guess it implies he's not naturally eccentric, he was forcefully made that way.
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Bros, I think I found this game's Path of Pain.
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>>538776987
It was definitely annoying as shit, but not as long as path of pain. I did have a harder time getting through I feel.
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Sorry, I thought Loam was an enemy. I was so ready to swing to kill. Thankfully I waited.

Btw, it seems if you run with him, a rosary will come out of the machine (I used the silkspeed anklets). Seems you can farm them that way, however, it'll take forever to gather many. I'm guessing that's their wage?
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>>538775984
It's not just you. Plenty of trash mobs take 4 hits to kill, closed room fights that keeps spamming tons of those mobs. It's fucking annoying and tedious.
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if you dreamnailed hornet while she was asleep what would you see?
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>>538776987
where we at?
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>>538772423
>slab
Where
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>>538777940
One of the rooms on the right in the bottom half, it's a ceiling jump
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The yellow tool that saves some rosaries on death becomes one that increases the amount of tools you can carry at once.
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>>538776987
Thankfully its like 1/3 the length
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>>538777514
That's not what I meant. I meant the piece of shit you free from the prison, and later see in trouble against some capital knight.
He's the definition of a scumbag, never helps even if you did free him.
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>>538777404
Loam makes me cry
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>>538778140
Forgot to specify, steel soul mode only.
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Where the hell are the puny penitents in the slab? I can't find any beyond the escape sequence.
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>>538778306
Whoops, meant for
>>538776352
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>>538777836
need the act 3 flying skill
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note to future self: do NOT climb shitwater again upon completing the food quest. there is a shortcut.
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Sooo... Beastfly just dived in the lava and is not coming out now.
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>>538779157
yeah it's bugged. just restart.
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>>538779157
If you fall in the lava at the moment it dives it stays stuck. Apparently it eventually comes up, also you can try leaving the arena and coming back.
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>>538779051
Neat omw
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>>538689809
Buddy, Knight cleaned up Hornet, twice, when she wasn't weakened by the seals.

Not to mention, Hornet is still taking way more damage from things Knight wouldn't have.
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>>538777725
her giggling like an idiot while surrounded by big soft fluffy creatures and petting the knight (who is also fluffy)
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>>538779647
Tough girls having a feminine side that they keep secret from the wider world is pretty cute.
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anyone else slow and take their time? im in 18 hours in and just only got the map to blasted steps, i imagine this game will take me 60 hours
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>>538780259
I'm taking my time exploring and also playing on and off because of real world responsibilities. I've been spoiled on a few things from hanging out in these threads, but I'm still enjoying the experience.
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True ending spoilers
>"HURRRR DURRRRR THE KNIGHT ISN'T THE LORD OF SHADES HE WAS JUST ABSORBED INTO THE LORD OF SHADES"
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>>538774591
It might be part of his plan to seal away knowledge of the Radiance too
"Yes I am the one who gave you sapience, nobody else"
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>>538781126
How did he ever even get a foot in the door against an enemy that grows in power just from someone thinking about them?
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I cannot believe that little Sherma survived Whiteward. I thought for sure that I was gonna show up to find his corpse surrounded by silk zombies.
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Fucking rekt. And people have problems with this?
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>>538781386
I'm at the Lace refight haven't seen Sherma since the baths. Where the fuck did he go?
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Sherma is a woman
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>>538780259
50 hours and I'm about 1/3 done with act2.
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>>538781375
I think he was able to take out the Radiance or seal it away by himself, probably by killing all of its thralls. Some beings it doesn't seem to gain strength from, like the Pale King or White Lady when they remember it (and maybe the moths).
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>>538781714
I found her at the Bell chapel before she fucked off to the Ward.
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>all needle attacks do the same damage
>except architect that does about %12 more if you get both multihits
>and you can charge attacks to do double the damage
invest in architect
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>>538780886
If he's such a big shot why didnt he help out at all before that, we got voidfucked all through act 3
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>>538782092
He is a femboy

>>538781375
I assume the moths were a big help in Radience's downfall.
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>>538782137
But the down attack sucks so bad...
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>>538782407
but it's hitbox is bigger than reaper and you can air stall if you charge it
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>>538782281
girls voicing young boys is pretty common. i'm pretty sure that's what they're going for. sherma is a child
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>>538782518
>it's hitbox is bigger than reaper
Oh fuck off, don't lie.
>if you charge it
I know. It's still bad.
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>>538782146
it takes time to get places, silksong's world is set far away from hollow knight's
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>>538748775
Related, but I remember this one cache of shards in the Underworks after you get the hookshot that's positioned in such a way over spikes that you're extremely unlikely to be able to collect most of them. I was mad.
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>>538782137
I'm witch pilled
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I really hope the lava pit in Far Fields is worth the trouble. Because this shit is giving me an aneurysm.
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>>538784983
Magma Bell and the wall cling tool are your best friends.
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>>538779051
>>538779271
don't do it until you get the mushroom quest first
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>>538785619
You can get a shortcut at the top so its not a huge deal to come back.



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