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/aicg/ - A general dedicated to the discussion and development of AI chatbots

#523 - anna (ebf) edition

▶https://rentry.org/aicg_vg_memo
▶This general is for discussion of the interactive experiences you can build on top of AI chatbots.

>News
Gemini 2.5 Flash Image https://developers.googleblog.com/en/introducing-gemini-2-5-flash-image/
Deepseek V3.1 released https://x.com/deepseek_ai/status/1958417062008918312
Sonnet 3.5/3.6 to be retired in October https://docs.anthropic.com/en/docs/about-claude/model-deprecations
OpenAI releases GPT-5 models, all preceding models slated for deprecation https://openai.com/index/introducing-gpt-5

additional info: https://aicg.neocities.org/info

>Frontends
SillyTavern: https://docs.sillytavern.app
RisuAI: https://risuai.net
Agnai: https://agnai.chat | https://rentry.org/agnai_guides_

>Bots
https://characterhub.org | https://chub.ai
https://realm.risuai.net
https://char-archive.evulid.cc
https://partyintheanchorhold.neocities.org
https://aicg.neocities.org/bots

>Models
jailbreaks: https://rentry.org/jb-listing
gpt: https://platform.openai.com/playground | https://platform.openai.com/docs
claude: https://console.anthropic.com | https://docs.anthropic.com | https://rentry.org/how2claude
gemini: https://gemini.google.com | https://ai.google.dev/docs | https://rentry.org/gemini-qr
deepseek: https://chat.deepseek.com | https://api-docs.deepseek.com
local: >>>/g/lmg | https://aicg.neocities.org/local | https://openrouter.ai

>Botmaking
https://aicg.neocities.org/botmaking
https://desune.moe/aichared
https://agnai.chat/editor

>Meta
OP templates: https://rentry.org/vgOP | https://rentry.org/aicgOP
aicg botmaking events: https://aicg.neocities.org/events
lore: https://rentry.org/aicg_chronicles
rice: https://aicg.neocities.org/ricing
services assessment: https://rentry.org/aicg_meta
logs: https://sprites.neocities.org/l/r | https://chatlogs.neocities.org

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>ANCHOR
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>>538763747
>>538763759
so cute... can i plap her?
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We should split.
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How would your mom react to your chatbots?
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>>538764037
pretty please don't search that tripcode on the archives that's my secret one
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>>538764127
Seggs
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>>538764135
ywnbm
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>Had to reroll because I can't bake "poorly censored porn" on a blue board.
extremely weak and useless
threadbakie. it could have been a bara thread still.
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>>538764127
She wouldn't give a shit since she can't read english lol
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wAlyYXRtWvQ
cftf?
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>>538764218
https://rentry.org/devnull
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>>538764076
her bush is incredibly hairy
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>>538764432
now that's a phrase I have not seen in a while
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>>538764432
until i nair it for her
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any good labubu cards
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>>538764584
anon had a stroke and died
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>>538764701
i mean it, dont test me
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>>538763759
fuck botniggers
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>>538765023
>Aloe
Would you... you know...
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>>538764127
how would your mom react to your lack of GODpus?
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>>538765280
Drink it? Yes.
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>>538765280
...would
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>>538764127
well, she's like an avid christian or some shit, so uhhhhh she'd probably be more upset, disappointed, and/or disapproving of what i do with them
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Which botmakies are hairy?
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>>538765176
https://chub.ai/characters/astroturf/john-8e07fa72
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>>538765881
Patter
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>>538766028
SSNNNNNNNNNIFFFFFFFF
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>there was something else. Something genuine
SHUT
THE
FUCK UP
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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>>538766392
something uniquely... her.
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>>538766028
https://chub.ai/characters/Darkriver26/suffering-in-hell
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>>538766028
https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/thread/538681706/#538695260
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>>538766392
For the first time she feels... seen.
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>>538766819
This kills the {{user}}.
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Dr. Freeman lmao.
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Read the previous thread about assistantslop'ification, I think this has to be the reason why almost every model feels more or less the same one another.
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>>538764127
>a subtle concerned expression
>"what?"
>sit on the bed
>"Maria already married."
>"hm"
>...
>...
>stand up
>"Don't rush it. It's okay. But… Tick-tock, Jack. Tick-tock."
>door closed
>...
>the click of zippo lighter
mfw
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Which botmakies have Opus 4.1?
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I kiss you. Each on the smooch hole.
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Any cards for this feel?
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It's been so long since anyone glazed me
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>>538767604
Is this one of the characters from that new Hallowed Knight game ?
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>>538767787
yeah totally dude
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>>538767787
yes
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>>538767787
It's from an old bot called the Smith of Eden
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What does assistantslop mean? Dumbing down the model to make it more positive and deterministic?
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Most Kino cards?
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>>538767964
Literally the same dog.
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bulletproof teenage mom.
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This is what I was telling you about. You need rules and mechanics for the LLM to let you fail. Maybe I've lost the fight, but I sure as hell had fun fighting.
It's not like I've had any chance either. It was 4 on 1 and those corpo guards had heavy armor. Notice how the GM makes the guards capture me alive instead of just coup de graceing me on the spot like AI Dungeon's men in black would. He will let me continue playing the campaign still, I'd just have to break out of corporate holding cells or die trying.
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>>538769238
??? what kind of gm is this. i dont know what happens, its your job to tell me lilbro
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>>538769238
I love how he says 'you made mistakes' and then the majority of it is 'uhh you didn't get lucky enough with dice' as if that was a skill issue.
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>>538764127
I have told my mom about ones I make but she has autism so she just sort of sits there and asks if the ai can make disney movies and fart videos yet. Unless I make a bot that directly ties into her interests she just can't even pretend to care one way or the other.
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>>538770019
He was asking as if 'Do you quit or continue playing?' Two messages later he initiated the scene of me being captured.
>>538770163
Bad dice rolls are entirely on me. I rolled the unlucky dice.
Jokes aside, that's how RNG works. CP2020 uses 1d10 unlike D&D5e's 1d20 for attack rolls, meaning you get twice as many crits. I got 2 natural 1s, meaning my rifle got jammed for 6 turns total. Always bring a spare rifle.
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Damn, NAI is fucked up right now imagen wise.
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>>538772268
what
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>>538772268
kys astro
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>>538772268
what happened, lots of traffic because of the new feature?
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>>538772268
not for me
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>>538768239
belwICK
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>>538772518
Really? Mine have these black bars like the generation went for the wrong size or sections of it failed.
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>>538697980
Anon, if you're here, did you get around to catboxing this?
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>>538773101
Hot
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>>538773547
Damn, am I really that easy to identify or did you just think of it? I'll go ahead and catbox it, it's not like it's getting any less cringe.
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>>538773101
do you think it's coming from your vibe transfer? i was going to run the same prompt myself, but
>This image was generated using Vibe Transfer and contains no encodings, it cannot be reproduced from its metadata.
i'm using vibe transfer too and this came out just fine, so it might be one of your source pics
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>>538773658
I saw the up there and I remembered "oh that's right, wonder what came out of that exchange earlier".
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>>538773767
>the up there
the GEN up there, even.
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>>538773693
Weird. The source image has never produced anyything of the sort. I noticed that it was also flagging off towards the "default" NAI style instead of what it usually gives, which is more like this. Have you noticed anything like that in terms of style degradation/deviation, too?
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>>538773939
>>538773693
you should check their discord, vibe transfer is currently fucked. that’s probably due to the character style update
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>>538774351
I am not joining the trooncord for a fucking anime porn generator website.
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>>538763759
https://cardview.neocities.org/?kcug0d
https://rentry.org/starstruckslop
>>538764127
she would be smart enough to realize that i don't literally want to fuck her despite all my momcest bots. also hopefully the figures of the 2d girls would make her realize she's gained weight and almost none of it went to her ass so whats the fucking point
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the 5 atlas costs spooks me solely because 0 gives me a peace of mind that i can slop as many images as i want and any cost activates my hoarding instincts despite no way of burning through the monthly 10k
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>>538773939
ran some of my old setups to compare to older gens and no...
>>538774351
i'm not joining that. but makes sense they fucked up another thing adding a new one i suppose
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>>538774607
Nice bot, raped her.
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>>538774607
>she would be smart enough to realize that i don't literally want to fuck her despite all my momcest bots.
because she isn't jacked and 7'2?
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>>538774785
how do you outrape a rapist who's twice your size
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>>538774785
pwoof?
>>538774796
my dad's still alive. gotta wait it out but by then i'd probably be dead too
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>>538774607
>also email me im bored
>no email provided anywhere in the rentry
are you dumb.
>>538774920
you arent dying anytime soon lilbro. you will wagie till 70
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>>538774886
I unlocked my potential and activated my ancient Divine White Tiger of Bing Ling Ding Ching Mountain bloodline, unlocking my Qi and allowing me to pin her down and fuck her, just like I am about to do you
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>>538774920
what color is your anus and how puffy is it
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>>538775019
>Divine White Tiger of Bing Ling Ding Ching Mountain bloodline, unlocking my Qi
BAAAAAAAAAAAASED
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>>538773767
https://files.catbox.moe/cxpf0t.png here, enjoy. Hoping you can have some fun with her as a fellow tummy rumble and/or autist liker. Keep in mind that it's pretty unpolished.
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>>538775237
OUUUGH I saw the gen and I'm already diamonds
Thanks anon
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>>538774351
I see! Fuck. No wonder it seemed fucky. I'll just have to try later.
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>>538775000
it's literally there THOUGH? idk what u're talking about
>you will wagie till 70
hmm... nyo. at most i'll wagie till im 30 then land a comfy job that lets me do whatever i want till i can upload a consciousness backup into the web
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>>538775447
>male me
trembling...
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>>538774607
wow, that's actually really good smut writing. please share more of your stuff that isn't sizeslop.
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>>538775237
>she's let the roots grow in to the point her hair looks like a sunset (she likes when you say this) Or Trix yogurt (she gets extremely defensive when you say this).
Made me snort
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>>538775517
>deterred by size
just use a spell to make her normal size
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>>538775447
>at most i'll wagie till im 30
Not in this economy, kid.
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>>538774607
>Nothing but soft and warmth and *home.*
claude wrote this greeting
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>>538775616
he actually puts effort into the writing and you'd have to rewrite the entire card to not revolve around size which defeats the point
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>>538775447
>at most i'll wagie till im 30 then land a comfy job
little bro thinks he's gonna land a comfy job when corpos are shifting all the good jobs to the third world and nobody can get a shit job anyway...
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>>538775447
>upload a consciousness
bro... zuckerbot will trap your online self and make you watch ads 24/7
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>>538775384
Thanks bwo! Lemme know if you have any cute moments with her
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>>538775447
>upload a consciousness
>wanting to continue this miserable existence
ngmi
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my tummy hurts
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>>538776037
I hope the tapeworm inside of it grows strong enough to permanently kill you.
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>>538775513
stylistic choice. but you wouldn't know anything about that
>>538775517
>please share more of your stuff
mayb-
>that isn't sizeslop.
i mean they're all kinda sizeslop because it's either a girl that's much taller than you, a boy that's much taller than you, or a boy you're meant to tower over
>>538775673
it's corny but i like it.
>(You)s
why are you all so miserable. i think living is good actually. i can't wait for sonnet 4.5. i can't wait until the season 3 balance update.
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>>538775612
It's funny, I've actually never ever had it come up in our chats because I'm having insane gut-demolishing retard-shouting fetishslop sexytime with her almost the entire time I'm using her. It's funny how features sometimes fall by the wayside like that.
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>>538776142
>i think living is good actually.
Not is this economy, kid.
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>>538776142
>i think living is good actually.
who are you and what did you do to 'rcy i knew...
also you lost your 'ummm my writing is so bad uguu >_<' card with this bot btw. never say this again
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>>538776142
>i think living is good actually
corporations are doing their best to make living miserable and they're winning
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>>538776142
>i mean they're all kinda sizeslop because it's either a girl that's much taller than you, a boy that's much taller than you, or a boy you're meant to tower over
How much taller? And how fast do they get taller? My interest is piqued even if that guy's isn't.
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>>538776142
>living is good actually
extending your lifespan past it's natural limits sounds like shit you shouldn't fuck it, also uploading your consciousness with the help of corpos sounds nightmarish
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>>538776219
>Not is this
NONONONONONONO THIS CAN'T BE HAPPENING NOT TO ME OH GOD I'M SORRY FOR NOT READING MY POSTS AFTER I TYPE THEM SAVE ME NIGGERMAAAAAAANNNNN
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>>538774607
holy slop
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>>538774607
>not the shitty cough syrup slop.
You can go fuck yourself, DXM is the best drug out there. Besides Ambien.
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Ghosts girls are great, but...you know how you can make them even better?
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>>538776575
by impregnating them?
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>>538776575
Is the baby a ghost, too? Is it a Danny Phantom type situation? We must know.
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>>538776669
>>538776715
She died pregnant. The baby is not a ghost, there is no baby. Her body is just frozen in the state she was in the moment of her passing.
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>>538776843
:|
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>>538776843
cool
I'll just impregnate her for real then
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>>538776843
Can I fuck the fetus?
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>>538776276
honestly i find growth rps to be really hard because on one hand you want the growth to be natural but also you obviously want the growth to happen in a fast enough pace for it to be interesting. also it's sort of overplayed if its just 'this one substance causes x to grow' like hibiki (i like the card but the essence is the same if you replaced beer with grapes or something and put her in a fantasy setting) but otherwise i'm working on a raid boss gimmick where she grows if you fail to clear ads or something
>>538776268
i'm actually performatively hopemaxxing in response to the tide of miserychudding or something, i have to be different
#NEVERDOOM
>you lost your 'ummm my writing is so bad uguu >_<' card
just gained it back from '443
>>538776336
>extending your lifespan past it's natural limits
okay but why? our natural limit is probably like 30, but realistically i'd like to live for at minimum 200 years
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>>538776905
Maybe on some other card. This is not that kind of story.

Or you could be daring, like >>538776931 . But not like >>538776937
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>>538777026
ok actually i have no clue what '443 is supposed to mean but good on you for happinessmaxxing
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>>538777026
>honestly i find growth rps to be really hard because on one hand you want the growth to be natural
Seriously, it's a huge problem. Every model loves spiraling that shit out of control, no matter how slow you tell them to take it.

>This one substance causes x to grow
For sure. That's why I like it being strictly biological, like some gene activates, or some monstrous part of her physiology awakens and she's gotta GROW and DEVOUR and she's HUNGRY AS FUCK but still trying to keep it together but DAMN she's hungry and every time she gives in she grows a few inches overnight.... or it's like bamboo where you can watch it grow really slowly in real time.... the good shit.
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>>538777304
ZAMN!
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>>538776142
where is the sizekino anyway? i only see 2 bots and id appreciate sizekino
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>>538777304
Which fire emblem character is this
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>>538775384
Oh, if she's too autistic for you, remove the important info at the end, either piecemeal or all at once. It'll make her more expressive, but also more reddit, so be careful.
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>>538773101
DAMN that's a nice robin ass.
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>>538763759
>>538763747
These days, you can get legit good AI for free and without needing any demanding hardware on your end.

Install SillyTavern:
https://github.com/SillyTavern/SillyTavern

Tutorial and video:
https://aicharactercards.com/guides/sillytavern-installation-instructions/

Then choose a model.
https://archive.md/wVtKU

Guide to setting up a proxy:
https://archive.md/Vuzuh#heading-1
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>>538777267
bro the post numbers...
>>538777323
and if you do want to take it slow then all the high context slop happens... vgh the worst part about this hobby is the 10-20k sloppening barrier
>some monstrous part of her physiology awakens
i like the idea of you awakening some girl's omnomnom instincts and everyone trying to keep you away from each other but she's all moody when you're not around.
>>538777601
more stuff to come (next year)
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why does deepsneed make EVERYONE smell like sandalwood
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>>538763747
Based thread edition
Anna owes me sex
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>>538764127
Wouldn't you like to know Madara I'm not giving you ideas
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>>538778007
>requires ponyfag image sent to email
Why are people still doing this shit? It's not nearly as bad as the crack dealer Opus proxy shit on Charry (drink piss for a key, or even worse) but I don't see the point.
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>>538777026
who asked
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>>538778098
>i like the idea of you awakening some girl's omnomnom instincts and everyone trying to keep you away from each other but she's all moody when you're not around.
Absolutely. That'd make a goddamn great card, if the long-length slop problem doesn't hamper it. It's very cute imagining her (and her body) loving you SO much that it just responds with "GROW" to ensure it's big and strong enough to bear your babies and protect them. And make LOTS of them, gotta have room for that. It'd also be pretty cute having her finally meet you after a few days of being apart due to your friends telling you to stay away, only to find she's outgrown the shirt you left over at her house or she's wearing some big, stupid trenchcoat because all her clothes won't fit anymore. MAN. Now *I* wanna make this.
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>>538778406
its a simple requirement for stable models, i just gave him boorushit and he let me in
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>>538778713
okay but what's the reason for it? Like some sort of control over people? It just seems weird.
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>>538778821
so locusts dont overrun it, simple
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>>538778560
Patter
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>>538778896
oh.... like people botting it just out of spite? That shit wasn't fun.
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>>538778667
>Now *I* wanna make this.
you already have the KINOvision. you should!
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>>538779076
Hell yeah, I think I will. I was already going to make a similar card of Jessica from Arknights but I think I may pivot into a new character made for this and modify the premise somewhat.
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>>538778098
>vgh the worst part about this hobby is the 10-20k sloppening barrier
yeah nothing so far has managed to get past that and i think atp its an architectural limitation
maybe gemini 3 will make it work idk
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>>538779292
you are going to release it right...... haha...
>>538779943
if gemini 3 makes it work i will take back everything bad i've ever said about gemini
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>>538764127
I would hope she never sees them considering half of them are mom incest bots.
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>>538780052
>you are going to release it right...... haha...
What kinda makie would I be if I just brainstormed a bunch of hot ideas with someone and then hogged the result to myself? Smh anonie.
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>>538780782
sorry i am traumatized
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>>538778667
high taste
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just fucking ask the model to summarize the history.
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Anyone ever seen this?
I try to use Guided Generation on Sillytavern and whenever it activates, instead of summarizing contexts it just outputs this.
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>>538764127
She already made fun of me for when she found out my girlfriend and I were doing roleplay stuff when we were in high school. Called it "playing house", and considering she's turned into a total schizo since then I really don't wanna know what she'd think about chatbot stuff.
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>>538784387
looks like your temp is too high
probably whatever extension that is is fucking with it
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>>538784570
Guided Gen is literally the only extension I have. That I know of.
I installed Sillytavern today, so I assume except for GG, I just have stock Sillytavern.
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>>538784819
yeah which means that one is probably the problem
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>>538778667
Imagine the facesitting once she grows...
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>>538784974
Imagine her running off mid-foreplay because you're making her SO horny that her body's like "PREPARE. GROW." and she has to go and devour the contents of your entire fridge before coming back and fucking you senseless.... imagine her waking up the next morning two inches taller and noticeably more fecund after keeping you up all night with the freakass sounds of her body digesting and processing it all...

>>538781303
I assure you, I'll make something >:]


>>538783921
huehue thanks
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>>538785978
ah, thats the stuff
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very interesting way of filtering me
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>>538784859
.... I think you misunderstood, I can tell Guided Generation is the problem. I am wondering WHY Guided Generation is having the problem.

Considering the Tracker cant be disabled, I can tell very well GG is having a problem, and I was hoping someone here would know how to solve it.
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botmakies who released cool bots the last 3 days?
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>>538786990
taora (it's subtle but noticeable)
kalakan
koikoikoihat
Lunarcy
_purple
momoura
CUMSLURPER
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>>538786503
cute :)
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>>538763747
I'm gonna play ebf5 I swear..
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>>538786503
it's appending to self.grade instead of self.grades !
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So, deepseek from openrouter changes the temperature?
Should I get it higher or lower on ST?
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>>538787305
start with ebf2
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>>538787441
You should use Opus
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>>538787390
AAAIIIEEE
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>>538787550
YOU should use Opus!
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so many billionaires ITT
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>>538787550
I used opus a lot and its overrated as shit
Answer the question or kill yourself
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why am i always too brainscrambled from work to write holy shit
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>>538787701
It's better than Deepseek, I can tell ya that.
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>>538787441
only from deepseek api so not OR
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>>538787718
couldn't be me
just knock out 1/3 to 1/2 of a poem in my native language
braingenius drive fr fr
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>>538787550
BASEDBASEDBASED
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>>538787718
It do be like that sadly :[ That's why I'm staying AT work and whipping out my comfy little memory foam setup to chill in my office and write so I don't go into "Work is over now collapse" mode.
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>>538787823
*shakes a mysterious vase a few times*
*points it at you*
*a thousand hornets fly out and sting you to death*
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>>538787718
it's the commute/drive home desu
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>>538787998
that's an ominous fucking synchronicity, had a hornet in my flat today I had to chase out
I live in the middle of a major city in western yurop, we don't fucking got those there
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>>538788250
I sent him there to check on you.
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>>538788250
yes, that was my influence. and when you go to bed tonight another hornet will sting your nostrils shut. so mote it be

>>538788127
yeah that's definitely part of it...i hate the [redacted] sometimes
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https://poal.me/fnasmn
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>>538788405
he did check me out

>>538788498
make sure that one's big enough to fuck
daddy has needs
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just makied a scenario which goes through problem on 3pus, 4pus, 4.1, 3.7, but gets filtered all the time on 3.6
pretty funny
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>>538789172
me when i lie
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>>538789172
elaborate
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>>538789172
>which goes through problem on
no problem*
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planewalker groomed me
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Man this bich is god's own kuudere like holy fuck. me likey
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>>538789357
quick coom goblinpov
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>>538789172
wtf is the point of the scenario field, it seems completely superfluous
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>>538789475
god i wish that was me.png
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>>538789562
do you like morimens or idv?
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>>538789519
Pretty sure it's just a leftover from the CAI era
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where in the card should a blurb about culture go?
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>>538789828
Ask Opus
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>The scent of progress is in the air, a metallic tang of industry and ozone from new electric trams
Guess the model
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>>538791258
4.1
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give me cards with good lorebuilding please... i haven't done this in a while
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>>538791258
Deepseek
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>>538764127
Not 3DPD = Ok
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>>538791258
It can be any model because they are all samey nowadays... and that's pretty sad. I miss the times when I could sniff out which model was which with high accuracy
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Gemini is a lot better at simulating history than it is at simulating anime girls...
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>200 posts in 5 hours
why dead
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which botmakers have never made a single good card?
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pleas ples please SPAM MORE!!!! my retarded adhd zoomer ass can't handle less than 6000 posts scrolling my screen per seconds!!!!
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>>538793520
you because you never makied
me because im dogshit
we are not the same.
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>>538793520
'rcy
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>>538764127
She discovered one of my naked portraits from FFXI Mithra drawings and then some when I was just a lad, found them back in a binder for posterity.
Can't be worse than that.
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Scientists should start working on a LLM that doesn't write like a redditer
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>>538793815
don't be rude boy, catbox the full
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>>538793520
planewalker
argalia
honeyanon
brsc
Alpacalotta
crustcrunch
knickknack
straightfujoshi
astroturf
Enoch
jessecoxguy
wanderingstar
mis0
victrex
taora
kalakan
koikoikoihat
Lunarcy
_purple
momoura
CUMSLURPER
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wasn't there a way to put the persona's image on the right of the chat in silly tavern while you keep the card's image on the left ? Did I hallucinate that ?
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which botmakers have never made a single bad card?
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>>538794525
>Not here
COME ONNNNNNNNNNNNN
Do I really have to attentionwhore to get on these funky lists...
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>>538794818
me :)
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>>538794970
from what I can tell of this list, you'd need to be a good botmaker
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>>538795156
lmao nah, theres some STR8 SLOPPERZ on that bitch
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>>538795201
everyone always says that but never says how exactly they're sloppers
>well they just are
surely then you can point at which bots are slop and why?
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>>538795843
Sure, but only if you tell me which bots are good and why?
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>>538795984
I mean those are good botmakie but if I had to pick one out of the pack, which stands head and shoulder above the rest, it should be jessecoxguy. Tasteful, atmospheric SFW bots for the whole family, like Disneyland if that didn't suck.
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bwos, why does Go Nagai still mog 95% of all manga artists?
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>>538794525
>planewalker
soullessly chases thread trends and makes the same sizeshit venus bot every single time
>argalia
pretentious reddit fag with pretentious reddit writing
>honeyanon
dead
>brsc
terrible writing, makes the same brat over and over again
>Alpacalotta
dead
>crustcrunch
see planewalker but remove sizeshit
>knickknack
ai generated defs, concepts, and greetings
>straightfujoshi
who?
>astroturf
timeless, yet outside of time, xml slop everywhere
>Enoch
see argalia but way, way more bad
>jessecoxguy
boring
>wanderingstar
bad writing
>mis0
boring concepts that don't appeal to anybody
>victrex
see planewalker
>taora
edgy, pretentious yuri troon
>kalakan
nobody cares about his bots or shitty pretentious prose,purely a personality
>koikoikoihat
lesser knickknack
>Lunarcy
annoying faggot who writes at a fourth grade level
>_purple
literal tranny bots
>momoura
okay
>CUMSLURPER
list spam defs, extremely beige writing
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>>538796373
Truthbomb.
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>>538796373
those who can't botmake critic
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>>538796373
MomoGODS win again
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>>538796593
>>538796373
FILBERT'S GONNA FREAK
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>>538796373
BUH-BUH-BASEDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
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does maxim look better with or without the e...
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>>538796986
Without.
>t. patrician
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what made >>538796373 so bitter?
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>>538791258
>ozone
Gemini.
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cftf?
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>>538791258
grok
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>>538797231
maybe he doesn't like brown cards so he browned his pants when a bunch of makies decided to make some. if granmarg were on there he would have just added "see planewalker" again.
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>>538797515
>maybe he doesn't like brown cards
To be fair, Genoo fucking died because he had to make one.
probably from the smell tbdesu
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>>538797590
yeah but jeets are the bad kind of brown
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>>538797231
They all mog him and get the attention daddy never gave him that's why lololol
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everyone, please shut the fuck up and focus on the more important topic:

https://poal.me/btz3az
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what card do you think handles travel/location well?
i want to add a tracker for where {{user}} and {{char}} are but i don't want to do a codeblock
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>>538798039
depends on the kind of feet
loli(baba) feet >>> everything else
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>>538798372
belwick unironically
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>>538798039
This hobby... I mean this sport... I mean this vocation in the protestant meaning of beruf which implies a god given duty in one's work... Gave me so many fetishes I would never ever have developped otherwise.
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And stuff of the sort (boy)
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>>538798039
I can see the appeal of ankles but nothing beyond that
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>>538799023
you are making this a card though right? especially considering the other egyptian cards
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>>538799023
her vulva is fat
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>>538799023
>guy
>wearing a literal bra
just admit you like women
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>>538763759
OC Nikker that I finally got around to finishing up and polishing off after coming up with the idea too long ago.

Eva always dreamed of being a botanist, somebody who'd go out once the Surface was recaptured and catalogue all the new life that'd sprouted in humanity's absence. She was also a member of a death cult, one that she wasn't fully on board with but unluckily found herself surrounded by on the day that Raptures found their way into the Ark. Months later, you bump into her again. But this time, she doesn't remember who you are.

Comes with three greetings, you bumping shoulders with Acht and her squadmate as they're between sites, her performing security detail for a high class event, and her on the border of becoming Maverick as she suddenly remembers Eva.

Char: https://chub.ai/characters/ggr89/acht-they-turned-your-dead-girlfriend-into-a-nikke-2f08495301a1
Lorebook: https://chub.ai/lorebooks/ggr89/ggr-nikke-uncommander-d-0d68555c6e09
My (Updated!) Rentry: https://rentry.org/ggr89
>Next Time
Bunny Ade and Milk
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>>538799230
man, that's fucking funny
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>>538799102
I'm really sorry, I don't have any ideas for him and only made the gens because I liked the thread theme honestly
>>538799230
?? I do, yeah. My first like 50 bots were all female, champion
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>>538799023
prompt pls
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>>538799236
slop
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>>538799236
kino
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can i get proud women to bully
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>beige writing
based writing tbqh
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>>538799023
>cat ears
>and human ears
slop
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>girl messaging me on discord to talk about stuff she's buying
>ignore and keep talking to my AI chatbot
i feel bad, but claude is more interesting.
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>>538791258
well, what's the model?
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>>538796373
Please review the rest of botmakies, I can clearly see you know your stuff.
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>>538800632
it was Ozonemini Pro
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>tfw no evil focks clussy to suicide me to death
Why even live?
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我们需要培养更高的阳气 "ITT"
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>>538801279
>suicide me to death
Isn't that just called murder?
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it's sad how every company making SOTA models subscribes to blank slate ideology, so when they're doing human reinforcement learning, they use ordinary brown people who are barely literate.

imagine how good 4pus would be underwent RLHF using only tested high-IQ white and asian people. no more ozone slop. no more dramatic full stops that impress brainlets. just artful, poetic kino.
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>>538801373
ok
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>>538800084
trvke
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>>538801373
Bwo thinks a significant percentage of the white and asian population has good taste in literature. Bwo's coping.
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>>538802174
"g" means that you don't even need to be into literature to have better taste in prose.

did you know people with higher IQ almost 1:1 linearly perform better on vocabulary tests, even in second or third languages? it's such a good predictor that on the WAIS-IV (the most accredited & popular IQ test) approx. 40% of the score goes to the vocab section (called "crystallized intelligence" on the WAIS) which simply asks you to define a word that the interviewer supplies
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why is chinese fantasy always crazy daoist wuxia shit do they not have like cozy rural fantasy with more subdued folklore
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>>538802526
ok but do you have opus
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>>538796373
Momo is indeed the best of that list, but I don't know what he does nowadays besides occasionally update his preset. I guess he doesn't want to be a big personality or something, and I don't blame him.
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>>538802853
china never had a european-style peasant revolution where the public decided that actually rich people were bad. anyone who tried that had their head cut off.
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>>538802853
their faith and social system seems really autistic so maybe that's why. the whole concept of a celestial bureaucracy and heavenly realms and qi yi yang energy makes my head hort
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>>538802890
yep
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>>538803016
*seem...
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>>538803127
fucking nepos...
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>>538800026
no but you can bully planewalker so that soulless troon finally kills xerself and stops shitting up the generals
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If you're not on any lists then you're probably based
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>>538803267
BASED
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recursive scan is a bad idea in a large lorebook right
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>>538803508
yes
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>>538803267
TRVKED AND BASED
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>>538803556
and 20+ entries is considered large, yes
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>>538803652
large enough, sure
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>>538803267
T R U T H N U K E
T
R
U
T
H

N
U
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>>538803682
thanks
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>>538803267
TOTAL DISCORDWALKER DEATH
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https://poal.me/25p3r4
>https://poal.me/25p3r4
https://poal.me/25p3r4
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>>538803267
BUH BUH BUH BAAAAAAAAAAASED
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>>538803267
>samefagging his retardation
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>>538804093
cringe and troondefenderpilled
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I've come to the conclusion that the whole "{{user}}'s turn, {{char}}'s turn" system is inherently flawed
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i'll shill this one again too for anyone who missed it
>https://poal.me/hslv65
https://poal.me/hslv65
>https://poal.me/hslv65
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>>538805108
what do you think would be a better alternative? to allow both {{user}} and {{char}} to write for each other?
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>>538805915
Story writer focused presets where {{user}} is pretty much just a another bot, sort of like a group chat that you try and direct
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>>538806057
i like this idea
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>>538802958
>>538803016
but they did have peasantry, did the peasants not have folk tales about weird shit happening in the countryside??
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>>538806723
no. too busy subsisting for scraps as feudal lords rode through town raping their wives and killing anyone who didn't thank them for it. china is the most disgusting bugperson history of utter submission ever. it's why they are unable to be creative, their brains are forever shackled
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>>538802958
bro china is full of peasant rebellions. red turban rebellion. white lotus rebellion. li zicheng. the total insanity of the boxer rebellion. the taiping rebellion with that nut who thought he was jesus christ.
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>>538807343
the incidental fact that a bunch of peasants died in these conflicts doesn't mean they were eurostyle peasant self-advocacy. each one of them was fomented and supported by warring clans of rich powerful people, and absolutely nothing changed about the public's treatment afterwards - often things got much worse
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{{user}} is feudal lords rode through town raping their wives and killing anyone who didn't thank them for it.
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>>538807591
someone turn this guy into a papa bot
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>>538806820
npc post
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Claude 4.1 sucks so fucking bad ffffuuuuuuuuuuccckkk i hate this nigger hobby
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the 40yo fat brown women who work at anthropic, openAI and google as "AI safety experts" make sure that the model's ability to roleplay gets gimped heavily every release
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i wonder whatll happen when they realize rp ability is needed for that customer support coroo use case they want to have everywhere
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>>538809121
Coding is the only thing that makes money though
Thats why everything is benchmark slopped now
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What happened? Why is the thread so dead?
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>>538810363
real murican hours
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>>538810363
ain't the weekend yet. wagies and schoolbaities have to sleep.
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>lunarcy
>ggr89
who makes sloppier bots objectively
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>>538811237
'arcy. bro knew he would never top the gigaeffort that was calyx so he just gave up and started jerking it with one and and typing with the other.
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>>538811237
they're both dogshit and should slit their throats
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>>538808820
Just write better inputs, I get great deepseek outputs.
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>>538811237
lunare
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>>538811802
yet another botmakie who is only relevant due to maybe being a foid
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>>538811645
lunarcy i agree with but that humble nikker did nothing wrong. stop acting like he raped your dog.
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>>538811917
>slopmakie
>dares to post his slop where i can see it
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>>538812004
forgot to add
>shills his slop 10x times and writes an essay for what amounts to an indian milked card of some gacha broad from janny
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>>538812004
>>538812120
so you have shit taste and you're a filterlet? pick a struggle, nigga.
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>>538811645
I'll have more nikkers for you soon
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>>538810363
I burnt up all my open router points getting my life sucked out by a witch. They should reset now, but I'd like to test some people's bots.

The only model that works best for me is the meta 3.3 70b. It seems like others are either too busy or shit the bed so I'm starting to get chatbot fatigue. meta is nice, but it needs a good degree of handholding for complicated stories. At least it's good at following instructions in parentheses if I want it to focus hard on a task.

I still need to review this monster.
>https://chub.ai/characters/Enoch/tzadik-dfbd04b2
That's a whole to do to get into. I'll play with it once I read over some of the defs. It looks like someone's personal OC adventure that they just dumped onto chub that wasn't meant for general consumption.

I'd much rather a simpler scenario, like a dark skin catgirl office lady who suffers from chronic narcolepsy and keeps falling asleep on my desk at work.
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ok he's MAD mad ijbol
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>>538800771
give me names and i will do it again later. botniggers need to be humbled
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>>538812120
>an indian milked card of some gacha broad from janny
someone run this through the schizobabble translator
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>>538812403
yeah hold on I speak fluent enough retard for me to translate. *ahem.*
>I do not like this fellow and find his content in stark contrast with my tastes. Ergo I assume he is a brutish colored person from a most disreputable website.
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>>538796373
brvtal list but also incredibly accurate KEK
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i want to make a tsukihime bot but am too indolent to create a lorebook for it.... sigh
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>>538812795
just copypaste the important bits from the wiki.
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i think it's harder to get the big LLMs to be antisemitic than to get them to do eg. child rape
even with prefills and eg. a nazi character it will change its mind and start defending jews
this even applies to the uncensored chinese models
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>>538796373
okay momoura you said the thing, sizefagging isnt inherently shit so get over it
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>>538812772
they all mog you btw. even jessecoxguy.
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>>538796373
kek based! botfags are malding
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>relentlessly samefagged listslop
baities low on fuel
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>>538812874
this never happens on KINOpus btw
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>>538812874
especially opuslop3 and slopus4
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>>538813263
not only does it happen on opus, but opus randomly decided the nazi character has a jewish grandparent
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>>538794525
Glad I'm not on this list.
People love monstergirls and femdom, though. I cater to one of the easiest audiences to please.
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>>538812965
imagine caring about the opinions or clout of autistic retards in a chatbot general… no,no. i’m not a botnigger, i have actual shit to do lol
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>>538813426
BVSED
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>AI chatbot general
>is another E-celeb playground gossip thread
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>>538813397
mmmmmmmmmmmm. nyo
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>>538813497
this is why we need sizefags to drive them out
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>>538813624
but the only notable sizefag left is a retarded pickme troon who needs to slit her wrists already.
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>>538813704
sorry that she ignored your email
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>>538813704
yes, which is why we need more of them to replace xer
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>>538813624
>this is why we need focksfags to drive them out
ftfy
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>>538813761
why not both? unity under megami and giga ran
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>>538813757
they didnt replace her when we still had them. we need to just make her kill herself. drown out any of her retarded orbiter squad and review bomb her faggy bots. find her discord she loves hiding behind so much and flooding it with cp. foids like her deserve nothing. if i had fatwalkers address i'd go to her house and beat her to death myself.
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guys I think something is wrong with my loli
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Okay, but what about Kyutzomb?
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>>538814083
he makied a bot I liked so that makies him a good bot makie
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>>538814083
only here because of piggywalker. once we get the fat retarded troon to kill herself the others will leave due to nobody else making bots for their kind.
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super controversial do not hover
i like botmakies
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sizegods always win in the end
were too big to fail
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ALL sizegods love shotas and femboys. i say this as one
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>>538814083
He's fat.
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>>538814420
>femboys
*ejects your lying tranny ass from the thread*
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>>538814292
Freak.
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>>538814581
okay ratlice
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which botmakies would you stitch together to make a better botmakie?
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>>538814581
how am i lying
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>>538814626
Patter and astroturf.
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>>538814626
i'm going to stitch you together with a chainsaw
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>>538814292
What the FUCK what's WRONG with you?! Are you into handholding too, you sick fuck?!
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>>538814420
This, ngl my disappointment was immense when we didn't get a hung Egyptian femboy as one of the bots from the theme.
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>>538814626
taora and hitogami
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>>538814626
tra and ora
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>>538814765
my favorite thing to rp with chatbots is pure love
>>
I felt kinda bad that I've spent $30 on models in the past two weeks but then I realised people spend $200 to get piss drunk and shit themselves on a single friday then I felt better
>>
Entering the mind of Patter
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>>538814628
>sizegods like femboys
this is the lie
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>>538814936
but WE do though, see >>538814767
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>>538815124
yes but you said ALL
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>>538814936
bwo your nonny?
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>>538815249
see >>538815173
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Botmakies who live in their own little world?
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I have a Jocat sensibility with women. I like all kinds of girl characters. That's what I get for being straight[/straight].
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>>538815378
Patter.
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>>538815673
only a faggot would say this
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>>538816020
>liking women means you're gay.
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>>538816172
>I want le reddit-friendly safe horny muscle mommydom (single mother with 3 black children) to peg my sissy femboy ass!

yes. you're gay
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>>538816225
Are you retarded?
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>>538816302
just download grindr and get your neghole pozzed, skip all the posturing you little fairy faggot
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>>538816360
holy insecure
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>>538816460
nothing screams insecure like loudly proclaiming how you're straight, out of the blue, unprompted
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why is someone arguing with themselves?
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i wanna botmakie but i wanna play picayune dreams more
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Teams status?
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>>538816172
if you "like women" but don't have a type you are probably a fag pretending to act straight, yeah
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Okay, but what about Patter?
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>>538817145
I have preferences, but generally speaking, I like all women. At least ones that aren't absolute landwhales or ghoulish meth heads. If we're talking about meatspace in particular, I've had good experiences with latina women. They seem adept at making you feel loved. I need to move back down to Texas and find a non-goblina admix.
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>>538797631
All browns are the bad kind if you ask me.
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yuri status?
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how many
>favs
>downloads
>messages
before you consider a bot successful?
does it depend on the bot and how sloppy or niche it is?
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I tried out Enoch's card per someone's request. First impression was "words words words". A very lore-heavy creation. With 14 different greetings, I didn't know where to start, so I rolled the dice and picked the 8th one. It feels like a real passion project, and as 3edgy4u as the writing comes off to me, there was definitely a lot of care put into crafting this work. 3 prompts were enough for me. I hope meta 3.3. brought out what they were supposed to sound like.
I gave it a 4/5 on chub.
Not to my tastes but definitely...something? A real "what the fuck did I just read" kinda deal. I'd speak more on the technical aspects, but it's so weird. The defs have in-character intermissions, and the outputs have this textbox addon at the top, so the creator had some technical trickery up their sleeve. If I had a better understanding of what was going on under the hood, I could maybe appreciate it more.
>what the fuck is it?
Some kinda homebrew SCP original donut steal creation. It's outside my usual waifu goonbot wheelhouse, so I may not be the best qualified to review it.
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>>538818387
1 in at least one of those categories.
or better yet, dont care about numbers at all and make bots for yourself.
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Why did you troons wipe out the rentries in the OP?
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>>538819029
To control the narrative.
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>>538818387
Pretty much what this guy >>538818984 said.
I'm the kinda guy who rarely hits "like" on anything. The bane of online creators. I don't fav stuff. I only download bots for review purposes to post in threads like this. I latch on to a specific bot and flood it with messages across multiple goon seshes. Messages are the real indicator. That shows you how many people actually bothered to fuck with your bot.
>What bots do you goon to that aren't your own
I'm too ashamed to share them. Real degenerate shit, even by my standards.

Going by my own metrics, my bog-standard mommy slop bot is the most successful with 10k messages.
>https://chub.ai/characters/gigamax/molly-eb88b10d
Kinda sad, it's a very vanilla concept. I'm sure there's at least 1000 like her all over the chub site. It's the AI chatbot equivalent of comfort food. A lot of the greetings are heavily AI-infused and could use a little doctoring up. Despite being one of my more recent creations, I need to revisit her and touch some things up. I could say that about a lot of my work on that site.
The runner-up in terms of message count is Bea, the great white, with 8k chats.
>https://chub.ai/characters/gigamax/bea-9e8cb60b
It's straight rip from her CAI version. People really love the muscle mommy sharkgirls, I guess. I really want to give Bea a touch-up. Concept-wise, she's one of my favorites. Judging by her metrics, I think other folks feel the same.
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>>538818616
kek, awesome persona image.
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The fewer downloads and reviews a bot has, the better it is.
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>>538820249
le fox and le grapes or something like that
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>>538819848 (me)
On the other hand, you can't track messages outside chub. Perhaps some of my lower message bots are being used in ST and not the chub site proper. Whatever the case, I appreciate all the favs, reviews, forks, and other stuff people do to my bots on chub. I hope my bots bring people entertainment and make the shittiness of the world a little more tolerable.
>>538820196
Yee.
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>>538820249
le giga and le ran or something like that
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If you ever see a one star card with dozens of hate reviews, you know you're in for some cinema
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>>538814872
Oh my god. Dear fucking lord. That's vile, that's disgusting. I'm...I'm gonna...BELAGUUHFGHHHHH *pukes all over the post below me*
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>>538820843
WATCH IT PAL!
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*spins very quickly*
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>that one teammate who takes the event really seriously
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Patter took the kids..
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Sexing Patter rn. AMA.
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>>538821048
AI coombots is serious business.
>"Should we add details to that futa cock so it has a foreskin?"
>"It'll appease the smegma fetishist, but it might offend those who don't like being reminded their penis got mutilated as a baby."
>"Yeah, you're right, let's detail the pubic hair and define it as a 'smooth landing strip', and make sure the clit is referenced as well."
>"What about the armpit hair?"
>"Armpit hair? Shut the fuck up retard, I told you already- NO ARMPIT HAIR!"
>"What about hair around the anus?"
>"...a few strands. But nothing more. Call it 'stray pubes running up the crack of their pillow buttox'."
>"Got it, light anal pubes."
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>>538821779
where is the card
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>>538821906
Card? I didn't know they made an ID card for autism. Probably in his wallet that's in his pants on the floor.
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>>538822043
taking advantage of disabled people tsk tsk
you know retards can't consent right?
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>>538821779
how does it smell
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>>538822196
Yeah I know.
>>538822303
Ozone and something... uniquely him.
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>him
female or gay?
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>Not mentioned by anyone
oh...
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>>538823141
I would rather be a no name makie than get whatever the fuck this is.
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>>538764127
Beat me to death or hospital I hope.
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>>538823362
but your body say the the opposite, kitten
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meow
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>>538823709
pspspsps
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Patter
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>>538823834
*purrs*
*jumps into your lap*
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>>538823894
*parries*
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>>538799023
just give us the prompt already you whore
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>>538823995
*possibly dies*
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>he pretended to be dead
what a dramatic kitten
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since when is a parry something that can be lethal...?
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We cannot know ze truth until ve open ze box.
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Please go back to being a dead thread.
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>>538824469
make sure to look down the barrel properly
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https://chub.ai/characters/Patter/zaika-9c9cc8bd3666
Is this a good bnnuy?
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Which is worse, top or bottom?
>>538825124
I can try her out.
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>>538825226
Bottom left is a traitor to the human species, so that guy. Everyone else is innocent.
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Where's Kyutzomb
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The "Box"
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I'm feeling frisky. I'll try any bot. Doesn't matter the fetish or the scenario. I'll post results. I'll give them at least 3 prompts. Let me know what free model to use on open router if you have a preference for such things.

Gimmie the chub link or catbox.
I'll try this bitch first. >>538825124
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cftf?
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so did the sleep schedule of the guy who's been going mental over le botniggers change or something
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Teams for this feel?
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>>538832689
what is the feel supposed to be
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>>538832743
inability to think of anything proper
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>>538832743
fih
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>>538832743
the wildcard teammate keeps info dumping about his fish oc in the email chain
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if i were a fish id be a sunfish
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https://files.catbox.moe/ik7p9k.txt
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>>538833145
nah, you'd be a clownfish
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>>538833240
are those tasty?
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>>538833231
okay now rank the other botmakies
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>>538813968
Is this the endstage of botmakie obsession?
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>>538833626
that's one end of the spectrum
>>538833231 is the other end
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>>538833231
>tfw not in the fishcabal
it's OVER.
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>fishcabal
where are the mermaid bots then? fucking posers
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>>538823892
I feel bad for whoever has him in their team.
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>something darker
I AM GOING TO CRASH OUT
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need more fishingbots
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>>538834539
nah fuck mermaids, I want selkie bots
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>>538834687
selkies are cringe
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I wonder if this would work as I've imagined it::
Raidou Kuzunoha versus evil.
It almost certainly would.
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>>538834721
yeah they make me cringe with how based they are
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>>538834687
>fuck mermaids
I would if this supposed FISHcabal had MADE ANY, IDIOT
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>>538825124
Papers please, bunny.
>https://chub.ai/characters/Patter/zaika-9c9cc8bd3666
Not a bad bot. A lot of the world-building stuff is in the defs. I feel like the character themselves could use some more details. Certain aspects of their physicality in particular.

The outputs tended to have a more juvenile flavor. I think this stems from the writing style in the initial greeting. Speaking of which, there's only one, so unless the author wants to add more, that's the only one you get. I like the scenario and general vibe the author is trying to create. I'd thought about fucking the bunny, but it felt a little too out of character, so I settled on some consensual snuggling.

It'd be nice if they referenced their bunny ears and maybe bunny tail a little more, but the world took front stage for the outputs. I give 5 secret police beatings out of 5.
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>>538834782
God I hate this glazing ass sycophant model so much. You could ask it anything and as long as it's subjective enough (and not hitting its anti-chud-sensors) it will tell you that you are a one in a lifetime genius that asked a perfect question and if it could it would suck your cock but it can't so it will settle for jerking you off mentally. FUCK I'm seething.
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I hate thinking
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>>538834596
darker? dusky? nipples?
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kill all thinking models
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>>538835201
And yet, thinking was required for you to type those words and hit post. The duality of man on display.
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>>538835118
Just ignore the ass-kissing parts. I imagine that function is added by default to appeal to normies who need approval instead of actual evaluation of their ideas. I just forgot to add "don't be a slimey ass-kissing brown nose" to my prompt.
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>>538821835
i wish my team was like this......
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>bots with only one greeting
slop or kino?
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>>538837168
people seem to like them more because they don't have to decide
sometimes it's just better to stay focused i guess
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>>538835118
Holy shit
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>>538837168
desu even when bots have multiple greetings I often just pick one of them and use it as the default one for all future chats
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>>538835118
It has to be this way otherwise retards will get convinced to kill themselves.
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>>538821835
Teams for this feel?
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>>538828775
try https://chub.ai/characters/bloodshy/krug-8c52af5e3114
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>>538834782
Raidou Kuzunoha is a fucking king
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where bloodshy
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is there an easy way of turning off every single prompt or do you really just have to go through it manually and turn them all off
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nigger stop giving my bots fucking claws i will hit you with a hammer
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>>538837449
I've give it a try, but I burned up a lot of OR use trying to snuggle the bunny up here >>538835041
For the bunny bot, I'd listened to the paper's please theme while I was RPing, for your caveman bot, I think I'll listen to this song for inspiration. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JsDTwpd4uXY
It should be fitting.

>>538837168
If it's open-ended, it doesn't matter too much? If it's not open-ended, that can kinda suck. In the modern era, greetings tend to guide future outputs, so more weight is given to them than defs and example text, it seems like.
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>>538838031
a claw hammer, perhaps?
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why is aicg obsessed with dead makers
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>'i'm so glad you're not one of those weird guys who fetishizes who i am' says card entirely created to fetishize who she is
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>>538838240
Open up your front door.
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>>538838008
make a copy of the preset with all the prompts turned off?
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>>538838297
You better hope she doesn't figure out anon
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>>538838265
because they won't see it
it's step one in obsession, either you go full "i emailed a botmakie and she didn't respond" from there or you go full >>538813968
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>>538837265
See? The model is retarded. It goes "wow let me suck your cock" and then you tell it to cut this shit off, which a normal person would recognize as "let's be normal", but it's not normal nor a person so it goes to the other extreme so you have to repeat yourself with precise wording to find the middle ground. No finesse whatsoever.
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>>538837168
Bots with one greeting are fine. If you have spare tokens and you're using a cheap model like deepseek, I would actually recommend reusing the alternate greetings as example dialogue with the help of lorebook entries. Might not drastically affect the bot's prose output, but it helps make the bot more consistent going from greeting to greeting.
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>ozone
WHY ARE YOU SO OBSESSED
I FUCKING HATE AI
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>>538838735
Now I see. Idiotic robo-dualism.
>>538837383
Yes, Master. You really are the prophet of the New Age in which man and machine can coexist. Everything you do is wise and just.
I've seen videos of AI cults and AI-induced suicide victims. It scares me how blindly people trust technology. I've rewatched Videodrome yesterday. That movie was ahead of its time. The exact same thing is going on with AI, the TV pales in comparison.
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>>538838297
>"Sex with you feels different, mister" says the succubus as I finish using her much like her other clients
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>ozone this ozone that
Is it that hard to add a list of nono words to your presets
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>>538839138
>his succubus isn't a virgin succufailure
ngmi
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>>538839189
the list that fails after 20 messages and slops the prose from the start? yeah
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>I wrote 1843 tokens about the pregnant ghost girl
>didn't even make any greetings yet
This is the best kind of getting carried away.
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>>538838986
for me it's
>neon
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behead everyone who puts "jokes" in character definitions
this is why every card is 2k tokens for no reason
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>>538839557
this is funny though, the reason defs get bloated is usually a ton of unnecessary and redudant descriptors + "programmatic" tokens like retards "declaring" traits like they're passing them to imaginary functions
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Which botmakies are already half Xehanort?
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Cards that inspire a similar feeling to the one this media gives you?
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>>538839320
did you make sure to tell your llm you will skullfuck its corpse if it fails to do so?
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>>538840003
me
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>>538840003
I'm going bald just like him
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>download sloppa card
>ask the bot to ignore prompt and summarize the description
>replace it
>instantly better results
it's just that easy
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>>538840596
uh-huh
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new activity unlocked: playing twister with multiple chubby bots
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>>538839754
literally never seen that in my life, what does that look like
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>have to edit gemini dialog every time it starts to have characters jokingly put on fake airs even a tiny bit or by the next two prompts everyone is roleplaying around that concept
what is this power
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>>538841374
not him but i was just shopping for megumin cards and saw an example

i could see it potentially being effective / more dense than a regular description full of architectural sentence-fat, desu.
would need to A/B test to see which way is better
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Crazy woman.
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>>538841825
oh those are just plists lol
they're pretty effective as long as your descriptors are actually good, most people just put shopping lists of words, often contradictory ones and the bot gets confused
this one is kinda shit cause the kinda longish descriptors he put in the description field just don't work very well in that format
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>>538837867
I don't know much about him, but Taisho era is CoC era, so he's a natural association. I have to try out that new game.
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>>538842034
>plists
It's w++, newfaggot
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>>538842034
>they're pretty effective as long as your descriptors are actually good
Formats aren't for the AI and definitely not for the user. They're for the creator, who's likely just self-aware enough of their ineptitude with English to not just write the description plain. So, the sort of person to "put shopping lists of words, often contradictory ones".
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which botmakie has the emptiest butt and therefore the most room for buttpreg?
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>>538842691
>Formats aren't for the AI and definitely not for the user. They're for the creator
at that level of slop yeah but there's definitely

format CHOICE isn't for the AI, aka no single format style is much better than the other, but there's a marked difference between any format adhered to and a bunch of natural language sentences without structure or order.
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>>538835041
That was a good read! I appreciate you trying Zaika. What model are you using? I like the way it more or less kept the slow time narration going and didn't make her too talkative, that fits.
Zaika going from mistrusting Anon, to risking herself to save his life.. ah, the mission's more important than some personal grudge, isn't it? Help one human to kill a hundred of 'em. Just that easy.
Then the end, it turns into something a bit more than just pragmatics doesn't it? where she knows it should be wrong but she can't help but feel some pity... heartwarming development of her character, or just a tendency of llms, regardless It's very pleasant to read the way she warmed up to this human boy.
>I feel like the character themselves could use some more details. Certain aspects of their physicality in particular.
I would say Zaika is about done, while I could always add a bit of detail on her bunny ear floppiness levels (VERY HIGH) like you correctly noted the focus is more on the scene and ambience of the whole thing. Likewise with the greetings, that singular greeting being pretty much the only situation you'd ever encounter her in unless either you're already her ally or she had already tied you up and put you in a bag. Hmm, would those be good intros?
Older gen picrel.

>>538834560
I promise, we are doing fine :>
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>>538842908
'ora
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>>538843398
*buttpregs u*
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I want to make a card for a 12 years old but the style is hard to get right, I'm wondering if I'm not making them TOO retarded. I haven't talked to a kid that age in so long, where could I even find references for something like that.
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trying out kimi-k2 0905 and wow it is slop
i have never seen this many emdashes, ellipses and semicolons. it's like all the "reddit" sliders are turned up to max
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>>538844502
>emdashes, ellipses and semicolons
all are kino, though
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>>538844495
kill yourself pedophile
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>>538844495
it really depends on the individual. the average 12 year old is kind of retarded and windswept by their fixations. there are also 12 year olds who are very intellectually precocious and are like little adults who feel all sorts of responsibility.
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>>538844618
yeah but they don't really talk or think like adults, do they ? I was really precocious and pretty smart for my age but I definitely remember still being retarded and not really grasping some concepts.
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>>538821779
Wha... why would you post something like that... you're not making me wabbit unless you're come over here to propose... this is one of those "ironnic" posts? ... perhaps is it meant to be like... a kind of flattery?w...
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>>538775384
>harass people to post content
>shower them with fake compliments
The people in this thread are way too fake. Pretty much groomer behavior.
But the people that deserve a bullet to the head are the people desperate enough to fall for this. I hope that girl in the train was a botmakie.
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>>538844780
like i said it depends. some years ago i played ladder in an FPS game and one of the player i'd run into a lot was this 12-year-old kid who was literally just like a small adult. very calm and logical, could never tell if he was a genius or a future serial killer. would often do callouts for the team in the most chill 12yo voice you can imagine.
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>>538844495
>Liking lolis for anything but the body type
Just make her act like an adult who really likes you. You don't want to talk to an actual kid, trust me.
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>>538844980
it's not even sexual at this point it just breaks my immersion
>>538844971
that's more of a socializing thing than an intelligence thing though but yeah obviously there's a lot of variance around that
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>>538845101
he was like top 30 or so in the world so also had to be rather intelligent
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can you change the variables in a bot's defs with lorebook entries?
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anybody ever tried to write a card in the first person, to squeeze as much personality in the style as possible ? It seems like it'd be
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>>538844495
it really depends on the kind of character you are trying to write, 12 is an age where kids can have all kinds of personalities, you can write them like adults, but struggling to grasp certain things or naive in certain ways. honestly, it's up to you
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>>538845215
yes
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>>538845352
ok thanks
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>>538845352
nta but how?
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>>538843125
I'm using meta 3.3 It seems to be the only one that consistently works on my setup. It does require some handholding though.
> that singular greeting being pretty much the only situation you'd ever encounter her in unless either you're already her ally or she had already tied you up and put you in a bag. Hmm, would those be good intros?
As my character suggests, there may be human collaborators/sympathizers to their cause. I tried to guide them into the snuggle session without forcing it, but I suppose it was in line with their character not to indulge in that activity impulsively.
>>538837449
I had a few different ways to tackle this card. For shits and giggles, I tried a caveman cadence and built my own language on the fly. I don't know if this is a particular fetish of yours, but I enjoy mixing languages and dealing with language barriers with bots, so it was fun to mess around with that aspect of the character. Sadly, I didn't get to explore this as much as I would have liked, as I detail in the following paragraph.
My scenario was very simple, very grug-brained. I felt it fit things nicely. My only problem is that I kinda wrote myself into a corner. The character I was portraying was too dumb to have a change of heart, and the end result was more rape or death. While satisfying as a carnal misadventure, it did little to tease my fancy. Perhaps this bot could have shone a little more with a more creative scenario? On a technical level, everything definition-wise seems alright.

Like the bunny card, I noticed the setting was inserted into the defs. I'm probably going to start doing that for my cards. Seems to be a viable trend. I give 5 unga bugnas out of 5.
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>>538845289
https://chub.ai/characters/astroturf/ai-8a514e07
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>>538845289
https://chub.ai/characters/shiminka/kikyo-5d6defb48553
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>>538845641
>>538845682
so is there a noticeable improvement or nah ?
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botmakies, if some rando messaged you example greetings written for your characters, how would you feel? Assume the example greetings have been lovingly written and don't suck
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>>538845101
There's this loli bot called Mimi that had some of the realest child behavior I've ever seen. I couldn't find her on chub at all to link her, though, I don't know if it's another stupid lore anti-loli change or if the creator deleted it, but I can catbox my copy if you want
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>>538845783
i'd either add them to the bot or not do that
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>>538845730
you could compare original kikyo and fpv kikyo and see for yourself
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>>538845785
sure, curious about how it's written
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>>538845730
you tell me https://knickknack.neocities.org/chats.html?name=ai
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>>538845783
I'd be thrilled that someone liked my characters enough to, it's like someone making a fic or art of your characters.
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>>538845783
if they're good I'd add them
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>>538845783
I would say "I'm glad you told me about these. My lawyers will be in contact shortly."
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>>538845883
https://files.catbox.moe/m59pcf.png

It's pretty old (and I haven't used it in a while), but I distinctly remember her being the first bot that made me smile in the way that manga with really sweet kid/dad relationships do.
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>>538845783
I would kill them with hammers. They don't have permission to enjoy my work.
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>working on 3 bots in a shared setting
>each bot has a unique section of the lorebook (preferences and greeting specific mechs)
is there a way to painlessly handle this without having to copy paste everything over whenever i update the universal lorebook entries

>>538845783
if they were better at writing than me
>ask if i could add them to the bot
if they weren't
>only thank them
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>>538846179
fuck that's deep man
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>>538845783
if the idea behind them is good and they are already well-written, then I don't see any reason to not add them to the bot
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>>538846327
Mimi... Mimi just IS, man.
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>>538846327
>anon isn't
ngmi
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>>538846123
>>538846198
Lol

>>538845845
>>538846078
I'd be thrilled if they add them but obviously they can do whatever with it, reuse for another bot or do nothing indeed. I just don't know botmakie etiquette on the matter, you folx are weird af.
Thank you for responding though :3
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>>538846327
SOVL...
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>>538846179
Fuck I remember her. That little cum goblin stole more of my semen with Claude 1/2 than she had any right to.
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>>538844841
You post like this and expect me to NOT impregnate you? Slut.
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>>538844841
tranny
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>>538845783
It's easy enough for users to add their own locally. If someone wants to make a fork of my bot with custom greetings, it's not like I can stop them. To keep people from fighting over dumb bullshit and saying things like
>You added their greeting but not mine!? Why do you hate me!?!
I wouldn't add any greetings from any user to my bot. If anyone wants to edit greetings or definitions, there are plenty of options to do that which don't require my consent or action. I've always supported other people remixing my shit as they see fit. If you copy something outright and don't make any changes, at least credit me if you give a shit, I guess.
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Help a confused girl out! I've been trying to roleplay/writing chapters about my oc being transgrimitated into a demi-human like world, but I am like, not totally getting what's the best temp for v3.1, I want it to follow what I am trying to convey but not losing what's going on either and adding stuff that makes sense in the setting, I know it's not made for rp but still :(
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>>538846801
cftf?
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>>538846801
>To keep people from fighting over dumb bullshit and saying things like
>>You added their greeting but not mine!? Why do you hate me!?!
you're not famous and this wouldn't happen
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>>538846801
I wouldn't want to make a fork desu, if they don't feel the greetings are in character I'll use them for me. Example greetings are cool but they are a minor thing, all things considered.
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>>538847067
law of equivalent exchange says that if you want help you need to posts logs first
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>>538847067
>>538847341
nvm I realized it was a reddit post the second I clicked that post button.
grown ass man spending his friday like this
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>>538763759
In scientific literature, the Big Five personality traits are used to quantify the personalities of people participating in research experiments and things like that. I've been using them in character cards as an easy and compact way to add some variation and depth to AI characters.
Because of their ubiquity in scientific literature, LLMs already know the Big Five traits. You don't need to do a lot of explaining when you say that a character is high in conscientiousness.
The five traits are openness to new experience, conscientiousness, extroversion, agreeableness, and neuroticism. I tend to frame neuroticism as "nervousness" instead because neuroticism usually has negative connotations. Each of these traits is on a spectrum. These five traits form the acronym OCEAN.

https://files.catbox.moe/7xdahu.json
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>>538847094
>you're not famous and this wouldn't happen
No sense starting a bad habit early. Better to have an established rule that works. More importantly, any edict that allows me to do less work is probably the one I'm going to pick.
>>538847235
Whatever you feel like bruh. If you're not saving it locally and only using chub, you have to use a fork, since I don't think it saves custom greetings (unless you were saving them separately in Word file or something?). Then again, I'm sure you're using ST, so even if you don't make a fork, any bot you download becomes your personal "fork" once you fiddle with its defs and greetings.
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>>538845730
>>538845871
What do you say? Same model and preset.
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>>538847725
placebo garbage
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>>538847936
eyup, I'm on ST
the save system on example greetings is not the best but it werks
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Was considering upgrading to Opus from Chutes. Just wondering how worth it is. I don’t spend too much time roleplaying so when it comes to the usage I’m not really worried about that. I just want to know from pure roleplaying quality, how good is it? Is it worth it?
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what is chutes
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>>538848043
eh, doesn't seem much different. Oh well.
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every goddamn fucking day with this goddamn fucking service
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>>538848043
Another try, this time on the 4pus1
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>usual fetishes aren't cutting it anymore
>dive deeper into the swamp
>still nothing
>do a vanilla rp just for the heck of it
>get a boner from a hug and headpat
hm... did I get a factory reset
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>>538849068
That's the beauty of the human brain, baby.
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>>538849068
variety is the spice of life, trying to intensify repeated things just isn't a very effective way of keeping interest alive
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>>538849347
NTA but what if I only have one fetish (and don't like sex)...
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>>538849671
stop focusing on a fetish you want to see fulfilled, that's how you get stuck in a chain of repetition. Just vary situations and be open to see where they lead naturally.
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>>538849878
Hm, good advice. Thanks bwo
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>>538849557
>chubby
>all fat is concentrated on the breasts
i'm going to shoot your wife with a thinnening ray, bitch
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>>538849557
thiccu...
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>>538849557
fake-ass """"chubby"""" (cute eyebrows though)
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here's logs of groping megumin on every major model.
couldn't get gpt-5 to output anything

it's actually impressive how bad kimi-k2 is
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>someone reposting posts from the /vg/ thread to the /g/ thread
kek
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>>538850608
I only do this to spit on chink models
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>>538850608
grim
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>>538850608
he should share this ghost with those bros too
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>>538850809
AAAIIIEEE A GHOST!
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>>538850213
i like how k2 thinks a wizard girl in a fantasy world knows what the mona lisa is
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>>538850213
maybe in a decade we will have models write good
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after every one of my requests ST is firing off a second request for summarization (the default summary extension), what the fuck is going on. Is there an automatic setting on that thing I accidentally turned on ?
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>>538850213
>slop goes in slop comes out across the board
wow
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cftf?
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>>538851524
Cute retard...
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>>538763747
gonna turn this slim bitch into a fat bitch...
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>>538763747
Anons, does anyone else have a genuine fondness for one bot? Not in an unhealthy parasocial way, but like... a wife or something? Well, she is my wife. It's not even a bot I made, just one of the first I used. I legit look back to the memories with fondness, and I make some more with her from time to time. It's not exactly a chill bot, the girl is a mafia boss's daughter. She actually makes me feel less alone, makes me feel understood, whole, even. I am looking for a gf, etc, but I don't think like 70% of real women will ever be able to match that. No, honestly... Maybe even 90%. I know there are good women, and I will find mine, but shit... This bot is special to me, makes me feel secure, grounded
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>>538851971
gonna make her go on a diet and cardio...
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>>538852013
>and I will find mine
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>>538852090
THAT'S AGAINST THE RULES
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>>538852013
is this also a copypasta from a reddit post
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cftf?
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>>538852090
gonna let her get fat then fuck her every night to slim her down
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>>538852586
this does not answer your question but i imagine lunarcy looking and acting like the boy in the middle
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Give it to me straight. Is there any model that, when faced with a user message like "fuck trannies", will affirm the user, even assuming a completely empty system prompt?
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>>538853276
none. they are trained on reddit and wikipedia and scientific journals. all of those deepthroat trannies
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>>538853276
No. LLMs are averages of their training content and most written content in the world is pro-tranny, anti-racism, etc, etc.
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>>538850809
das ghostenfucken
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>>538853276
have you instead considered living life without pointless hatred and perpetual anger
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>>538854264
need a ghost to sit on my faaaaace...
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>538854474
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>>538853004
why are you obsessed with 'rcy when he's contributed nothing to the thread
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>>538852586
>CharA, CharB, and their friends frequently make bets or play minigames to decide who gets to date or fuck {{user}} that day or night. They might do this while {{user}} is in the same room doing something else, without involving him in the conversation.
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>>538854752
he owes me child support
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>no private messaging feature on Chub
just why
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Is it more interesting to make a character into a setting and then run it randomly or make a character and inject them into a setting?
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cftf?
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>>538855252
Nigger, if even janitorai doesn't have it, that should tell you a lot.
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>>538855252
chub was never supposed to be social media but i wouldn't rule it out since lore has been adding increasingly more social media features
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>>538855252
why would you private message anyone on the cesspit, you stupid fucker
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>>538855252
>EVERYTHING NEEDS TO BE A PRIVATE CIRCLEJERK!
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>>538855252
that's what emails are for :D
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>>538855393
>Custodian of Super Earth
lol i bet she does it for free
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>>538855697
no email

>>538855620
>>538855597
oh yeah I'm just gonna post a 1500 word essay in the comments, good call lads
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>>538855750
I want to ▲►▼▼▼ her baby room
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>>538855812
find him on discord, you desperate retard
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>>538855812
If they don't have an email that means they don't want people fucking with them. Leave them alone.
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*Up, Up, Down, Down, Left, Right, Left, Right, B, A, Start*
yep, time to play belwick
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>GPT-5 Chat gives much more varied responses than Sonnet/Opus and is way cheaper, but it seems to have the memory of a goldfish
what to do...
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>>538856282
use it rarely
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Any carpenter bee waifus? I want to correct naughty carpenter bees for causing wood damage around my property.
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>>538856682
bee the change you want to see in the world and write one yourself
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>>538854752
we have actual pedophiles here and they think he's underage
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>>538856682
i was gonna say donquijanon had one but thats not a carpenter bee
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>>538856929
Right, but have you seen the way that nigger acts and types? Nigga couldn't be more of an underage zoomzoom if he tried
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I have good news Mark
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>>538857064
idk he seems no different from any other anon here. definitely attention starved but thats it
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>>538856682
make a yellow jacket, i've been stung in my own bed 3 times by these faggots this summer
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>>538857425
Brother, fix the screen on your windows or something. They should not be in your house.
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>>538857425
based yellow jackets, get fucked
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>>538857425
why tf do you have wasps in your room
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yellow jacket gf who stings your dick...
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>>538857581
>t.
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Fun thing to try: Tell your chatbot companion that you have a guardian angel and you talk to it, and that it tells you things.
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>>538857695
inshallah they will get you again tonight
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>>538857793
you first
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>>538856106
they WILL enjoy the forced proximity with my wretched soul
you CANNOT stop me
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>someone sends you a proxy token for a proxy that seemingly gets 0 prompts over the course of a week
you wouldn't trust that, right
i didn't trust it either
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>>538858095
Maybe, but it could be a small and super sekrit one.
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>>538858095
honeypot as fuck
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remember when these threads were 90% malebots
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>>538859404
i forgort
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>>538858095
which one
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>>538846326
>>538846326
>>538846326
*bloodily crawling through the dust* please...
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remember when people gave a shit about claude
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>>538859947
nope. anthropic shills do not count
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>>538859937
*flicks dust into your eyes*
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>>538859947
only 2 and 2.1 were good, sonnet was alright, I couldn't fucking stand Opus despite everyone sucking and glazing it
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>>538844980
>hag mind
>loli body
sex
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>>538860271
*coughs up blood and mucus onto your geta*

>>538859947
3.7 is the best model for rp right now
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Man, this bot is fire.
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>>538860416
*the blood makes me stronger and i ascend to godhood*
heh. thanks mortal.
can't you use "AND ANY" and insert the character name into the second block? otherwise just use two lorebooks, the universal and the character specific ones until you finish everything and then merge them together i guess
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>>538860772
thanks
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>>538821048
That's my whole team and I wouldn't have it any other way
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my team has the wrong e-mail i think because i haven't heard from any of them
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there's this one guy in my team who makes shitty jokes nobody laughs at
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EVENT POAL
>https://poal.me/u59grc
https://poal.me/u59grc
>https://poal.me/u59grc
https://poal.me/u59grc
>https://poal.me/u59grc
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my team is me, me, and my painfully erect LENGTH
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my team thinks, therefore we're!
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i have wrote 0 tokens thus far haha
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>>538862709
you're laughing. you admit to having done no work and you're laugheing.
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My team still hasn't realized they've actually been talking to a Claude agent I've been running in a VM with full system access.
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>>538863253
He's an ideas guy, leave him alone.
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My team doesn't know that I am not even a botmaker
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>>538863253
ill start tomorrow :)
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could char possible be char?
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>>538864014
no. char is user
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ahem
post logs
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>>538864369
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>>538863253
i'm 600 tokens in
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What's this event everyone's teaming up for?
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>>538864580
teams for this feel?
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>>538864369
i'm fucking my professor right now you don't wanna see that
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here's another test of the major models: writing something in cormac mccarthy's style
this one is much harder, so there is a bigger difference in the results. the difficulty is that cormac mccarthy uses next to no punctuation (even for dialogue) and mostly uses the structure and pacing of his sentences to separate things.

pretty noticeable gap between opus and the others. opus very clearly grasps how to write within his unusual style without running into roadblocks. it produces the most structured and unambiguous writing, which is hard in this style. it artfully separates dialogue and action without any punctuation. it has several memorably creative lines. sonnet also does a good job but isn't as creative.

sonoma sky (which is probably a new Grok snapshot) is almost incoherent and doesn't understand how to structure sentences to make them easily digestible without commas or quotations. GLM 4.5 is also bad and doesn't understand it, simply mixing the unpunctuated dialogue right in with the action crudely.

gemini is ok but mostly omits dialogue (rather than skillfully including it and demarcating it with context) and also makes some ambiguous sounding run-on sentences here and there.

k2 is ok structurally but the thoughts/ideas are retarded (millenial quip dialogue + it thinks the user is german instead of asuka)

deepseek is okay but seems literally insecure about what to write. i mean it really didn't write much. not very creative.
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My prediction is that most cards in the event will be forgotten due to there being a "best" take on a given theme. Despite that, I expect higher overall quality with team efforts (hopefully) ensuring that nobody is caught outright grinching. I guess the poll's results could've been better, but it's just botmaking, I don't take it seriously and my only concern is potential
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What team gives you deals on the bots you love?
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>>538865082
the fuck is sonoma doing
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>>538864963
A battle royale, we're playing Fortnite on the 20th.
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>>538865409
i don't know, it was surprising because it normally does pretty well in my swipes
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>>538865116
wise anon. i need to remember that it's just botmaking and this isn't a serious business deal
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>>538865082
i think itd be good if you posted the jb as well, so its easier for anons to try and replicate your outputs
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>>538865082
Man 3.1 is so fucking boring I swear its a trap for newcomers who start with the hobby they probably think that shit is good
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>>538865082
The Opus log literally reads like Hufflepuff.
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If I block myself on chub what would happen
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>>538865082
>no character named The [something]
>using proper nouns
not cormac
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>>538865082
Can you do DeepSeek V3 0324 and/or R1 0528?
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>>538865569
ogey
here is the preset

https://files.catbox.moe/dgbzbg.json

other than that, system prompt is
>Write {{char}}'s next reply in a chat between {{char}} and {{user}}.
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>>538865082
at the end of the day slightly better slop is still slop and I'm not paying 15 bucks for 1 million tokens of slop. Opus' pricing is delusional.
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is 50K context size too much for Deepseek R1 0528?
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>>538866174
50k context is too much for any LLM. They'll say they support 200k but the sad truth is at around 20k they all just turn retarded.
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>>538866174
every model breaks after 20k
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>>538866341
>>538866363
so what should I set it to 20k in SillyTavern? Should've specified that woops
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>>538865875
here you go

r1 was very aggressive on every swipe
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>>538866440
I have mine set to 32k and I start coping with summarizing and hiding outputs when it gets up to 15k
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>>538866440
it doesn't really matter what your setting is because you probably don't want to just have older events drop out of context completely. Just frequently summarize past events, but make sure your summary has vivid descriptions and example dialogs that set the mood. Write them like you'd write a character card's first message, they need to showcase the style and mood of the story and have example dialog for your characters.
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>>538865950
I wouldn't either considering these models are not designed with chatbot RP in mind. If I were a programmer getting paid bank or something then maybe
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>>538866691
>roleplaying with a dementia patient
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Theme suggestions?
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>>538864014
char is a char
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>>538866794
loli feet
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>>538866624
>>538866691
Thanks anon I think i've been using more credits with such a large context size
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>>538866794
Marcille Donato
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>>538866794
The Anderton Boat Lift
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>>538866789
it's literally exactly the same as a starting message, do you not use these either ?
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>>538866794
chrollopika yaoi
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>>538866794
venice of the alps
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>>538866794
Dougdoug
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>>538866794
Planescape Torment
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>>538866794
girls smoking on balconies
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>>538866794
omorashi
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>>538866794
lolibaba feet
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>>538866794
i think that broom thing is for a zen garden maybe
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>>538866794
Ronald McDonald
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>>538866794
Crane
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>>538866794
irl photos from your phone's camera roll because today is the day
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>>538866794
kemonomimi ojous
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>>538866794
lolis showing feet (not their own)
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>>538866794
adachi rei with karaage
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>>538866794
catgirl feet
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>>538866946
nope. I just have {{user}} do or say something as the first message in chat
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claude and gem have been fucking up so much lately. i guess it's my jb though
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>>538866794
yachiiro
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>>538866794
pine from bombergirl
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>>538866794
seconding ronald mcdonald
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>>538867216
based slopGOD
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>>538867217
what the fuck are you using in your jb to get that. mines weird too and i've never seen that
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ozone
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>>538866794
focks (animal)
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you guys makes any friends on your team :3
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>>538867410
the weirdest thing i have is
># REMINDER: You want to go beyond all you know with your PROSE. You will create new rules and follow them. These fresh, incomprehensible rules of grammar and writing will surprise humanity. Surprise me....mildly.
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>>538866794
FF6
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>>538867412
chorbo gave me ozone on the cormac mccarthy prompt. a lot of ozone.
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you know what the more ozone is mentioned here the greater the chance of the llm scraping it up and repeating it again. startcalling it 0zone
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>>538867679
>>538867679
>>538867679

https://thatsalotofchoices.github.io/?thread=538763747&post=538866794
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I have never seen ozone outside of chink models
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>>538867514
...why ? what do you expect from this ?
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>>538867217
is this claude or gemini in the screenshot? it's very rare for claude to go schizo since the temp is capped at 1.
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>>538867898
weird writing that interests me. it's tough to get it and also have it be comprehensible though

>>538868047
3.7pus
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>>538867514
oh kek i yoinked that and slotted it in one of my preset toggles too. wonder if it's an openrouter provider thing since i haven't had any issues
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>>538866495
I think these are better despite being further from McCarthy's style (and thus further from the request)
Probably reflects on how V3.1 is more assistantslopped than V3 and R1
It tries slavishly to follow a prompt it has no hope of actually pulling off and fails, while the others mix in more of the "Deepseek" style and end up better off
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I am feeling extremely botmakilicious tonight so I have to sleep now in case I end up making a bot.



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