game bad because its not street f*ghter edition
If this game doesn't have an option select where I just upback and push every button, and this somehow works on a lot of things, then it's trash.
What layout are you guys using on leverless? I swear everything I've tried so far feels like it was tailor made to not use any muscle memory from any other game I've played. Pad feels fucking weird too but I haven't found anything that doesn't feel like straight up dog shit for leverless.
Neutral players OUT of my threadThis is a jump forwards 2x assist club only
>>538777636I actually just use a controller, don't want to fuck up my muscle memory for t8
>yasuo who only does strike and throw with jinx double assist fireballjesus fucking christ
>>538777636I'm using L M S1 ParryH A S2 DashI originally had H and A switched since that's my default on most games with LMH, but this fucking game had to tie the burst into A so I had to place it next to the special buttons.
>>538777636I've been using the default stick layout, but am thinking about trying T S1 S2 on the bottom row
>>538777907damn it must suck to do throws.
Arcadestick fag here, it's okay to bind a macro for things like throws sometimes
shorten the combosreduce meter gaindon't make me watch 6 super cutscenes per roundi wanna play some neutral too
>>538778156Eh, it's fine, I can deal with diagonal pressing. It's when there's more than one button between the buttons I have to press simultaneously it gets bothersome.
yasuo has the best zoning and best strike throw and best neutral and best combos
>>538778701based
Once your combo leaves the ground, you shouldn't be able to go back to the ground before the combo ends. This is like one of the most basic things in fighters, I can't believe they fucked up something so simple.
you really shouldn't start with a super bar
>>538779189>Once your combo leaves the ground, you shouldn't be able to go back to the ground before the combo endsHaha it's not like there are countless fighters where you can OTG to relaunch or do a grounded combo ender or anything
Anyone wanna dump a code for an anon.
>>538779478Tell me what's the best VN and if it's also my favorite then I'll give it to you
>>538779189do you play fighting games?
>>538779730hanachirasu
>>538779730Alas there are no good VNs.
>>538779362And those games are generally speaking referred as "kusoge". It being something one character can do for a single combo route would be fine, but almost the entire cast can do "ground combo -> launcher -> air combo -> ground combo -> launcher -> air combo" without even needing an assist and it leads to everything building massive amounts of meter and having huge amount of corner carry.
>>538780053That's typical tag fighter gameplay. 2XKO is a tag fighter.
It's a SF6 player who just saw his first rejump combo in an anime game
>>538780219It's not though, I only play one character.
>>538780445based
>>538780053I can't remember a single character in DBFZ whose most optimal route didn't consist of going ground -> air -> ground -> airhell some of them went ground -> air -> ground -> air -> ground -> air and you build up like full bar.
>>538780516What the fuck are you talking about, vast majority of DBFZ characters can't get back to ground without an assist.
>>538780652...yes they can
>>538780652They can, though???
bro only played 1 week of DBFZ, learnt the sayian combo, and thought that was it.
Tipos for Illaoi? Been avoiding lights and mediums in combos and got almost 500 meterless with Blitz. I think she get a hit/grab reset with his restand too.I don't want to invest too much into Blitz assist because they'll most likely nerf it on release. Shit's broken.
>combos that go on for years except they don't even feel good to dothis game sucks
>>538780754>>538780942Vanish into dragon rush to end the combo isn't "back to ground".
>>538781071nobody asked you to do a long combo>>538781106nobody asked you to expose yourself as a shitter at DBFZ
>>538781071Agreed, I honestly like blitz because his combos are short and sweet, but Yasuo and Vi needs to be tuned down on their combo length and freedom.I dread to play a Yasuo/Vi player shit will time out 100%
>>538781106When did you stop playing? giving you the benefit of the doubt and will assume you didn't play past year 1.
2XKucks
>>538780652Did u play DBFZ for a week or something
>>538781895ur game sucks though?devs dont even let you call one assist to cover jump ins complete mickey mouse game
>>5387787852xsisters... it's over...
>>538781895There's way more than 2x cucks in this thread
>>5387818952xKINOalso, i still have 2 codes to give away. draw me a cute or cool darius in paint (with scar on correct side, viewer's right/his left) and post your email with it and I'll send it
>>538782309why the fuck are you gbvs retards so annoying? just make a discord that general is like a group chat of the same peopleout of all the anime fighting games to get obsessed with you chose GRANBLUE
>alright let's try this out >Oh it has a default fight stick layout, sure >Ok let's see how do I throw?>SF style? Nope, that's a fucking super >Forward and an attack button? Nope.>What the fuck is it? >Medium + heavyBro what the fuck????? There is no way to set up your buttons on arcade stick to not have throw feel like shit. It feels like they want you to play this on leverless with a million buttons or probably pad. But even on pad throw is fucking triangle and circle???? What are these niggas doing? Not even to mention two different skill buttons? They should have copied Granblue's control scheme wtf is this
>>538782504Thats how you throw in most anime games and bbtag though
>>538782371I saw your post, I don't care for the codes but I thought of drawing Darius anyway. Didn't do it because I was busy but I might do it later tonight
>>538782490>why the fuck are you gbvs retards so annoyingBecause the game is some of the most unfun dogshit imaginable so even they can't be assed to play it.
even strive mogs this shit game
>>538782705if you do, i would certainly love to see it!
>1 Week until rankeddamn sounds like we will be on beta for a while... just release the game riot.
>>538783084I'll see what comes outI mained him for a bit when this skin came out, he joined my top pool
>>538781071>>538781291I felt the opposite. Totally different combo routes will give you almost the same damage, meaning you can do a combo that feels good for you without sacrificing too much.
>>538783190its gonna be in 27 days, all the in game countdowns are the samethats around the start of league worlds too
I'm pissed Teemo is the next character but hopefully Zed is the one after that. I'll finally have a character I REALLY want. I'd kill for Azir or Gangplank though.
what stops me from moving around solely by spamming dash 1 dash and backdash 1 backdash?
>>53878189566L BC
wavedashing just by spamming backdash or forward dash feels... stupid
>>538783358thats the intended way, its supposed to be simple so everyone can play neutral
>>538783712as someone that was learning tekken, I'm grateful I don't need to do korean backdash.
>>538783292there are no combos that feel good
>>538783812Surely there is a middleground between KBD autism and dash spamHell, just did what MK11 did >but this game does not have a block bu-don't care, find a way
>>538783983do vi electric combos
Korean or JP voices? The Eng is unbearable.
>>538784134JP is BlandKorean is pretty goodI haven't tried the Spanish or Portuguese yet.
i wish i could adjust voices on a per character basis. all i really need to change is jinx and the announcer
maining zed ahri with korean VO when he comes out
>>538784632cranky because you didnt get a code
>>538782371Do you accept payment in the form of incompetent autism?gimme_code4this_darius at proton.me (please)
>>538785674a bit low res but i didnt specify so ill take it yea. lmk if you got it
do illaoi players think they are good?
>>538786145a question as old as time
i feel like i have no idea what the fuck to do in neutral evermaybe i should spend more time playing instead of labbing but it's not getting much easier when i do play
>>538786145at least she's not popularwhich yes does make the matchup harder to learn
>>538786209mash backdash and wait for the other guy like 80% of the playerbasei watched k7 have oki but he still mashed backdash fullscreen with yasuo to do windwall into tornado
>>538786209Probably my biggest issue with the game. Assists and neutral tools feel very unmarvel-esque.
>>538786145>>538786254 Abegen is playing her, so she is probably low tier
>>538786338Abegen just plays high health/big body characters. They don't have to necessarily be bad.
How manyu victories in a row do I need for the blue aura?
>>538785959>A bit low resAh sorry. Thanks though, I got it!
they need to change backdashes to be like strive. Longer distance with some inv frames but long punishable recovery, otherwise it's fucking spammable bullshit. You can cancel it on block frame 1
>>538786597all dariuses are good dariuses, thank you. enjoy the game!
>>538786608>long punishable recoveryThey are punishable but I wouldn't call it long, it's still unreactable in most scenarios
>>538786745they are not punishable if i can cancel it to block frame 1. It works even after a super flash. Insane
>>538782371Still have a second? I can throw something togther if you do.
>>538786872yea i'm going to work in like 45 minutes or so though
>>538786209there's no neutral
>>538786336yeah kinda. it feels like positioning doesn't matter at all until you get blown up with a combo and thrown into the corner
>>538787035there may be no neutral but i still feel like i'm losing to the player rather than the game itself when i lose which is more than i can say about ***** ******* *
>no one talking about BraumIs he bad? I wanted to play him and Darius, but didn't click with neither of them. Ended up with Illaoi/Blitz. Might give Braum another shot when I get a better feel for the game.
>>538787217braum's good imo, i think he's best with double down so you can tag him in and give him his buff like that.
>>538787035Not true. It's just more of a generic footsie battle but with tag fundamentals built in. The first character that comes out with a good neutral tool is going to be super dominant in this game I bet.
>>538787217he is frustrating to play against, but I don't like his design so I don't play him just like most of the current roster.
>>538784061>>538783983
>>538787874I really can't tell if the picks are just THAT abhorrent or if it's just the retardedly small amount of available charactersI'm yet to see someone be like ''YOOO THIS ROSTER IS FIRE FRFR''I never gave a shit about Blitz but he feels like the first good pick which is fucking concerning
>>538788217the thing about making a game based on league of legends itself, is that there are like 200 fucking champs in that game and everybody only likes about 5 or so of them. literally not possible to please everyone just because you're comparing a roster that's been built up for 15 years to a roster for a game that's finally launching in like a month
>>538786934I know it could be better, but I thought it was mildly amusing. Ill use a proton like that other autist. asgoredrunk at proton.me
>>538788704lmao yeah that'll do it, thanks. lmk in the thread if you got it>>538782371all codes claimed, thems the breaks, thank you for the cute dariuses
Why am I learning a 3 electric combo man I'm never going to do this shit in a real game
>>538788868Uhhh. No. You can try again or this 10min mail I suppose. koxxarvcdewvbnboie at nesopf.com
>>538789118that's weird, sent to this one.
>>538788704>RUNNIN TO MY LANE RIGHT AFTER A BEER>HEY THAT TOP IS SHAPED LIKE A DOG>DORAN'S SHIELD?>HOW ABOUT YOU YIELD?>I'LL PUSH A HUNDRED Q'S>A MINUTE
>>538789260Got it in the 10min mail. Thank you!
>>538789369wonderful, thanks again for the funny drawing, hope you enjoy the game!
>>538789050because there's nothing else to do but lab combosthe actual game is dogshit
>>538788217The roster is missing A LOT of favorites and has non-sensical additions like Illaoi.If they knew the roster was going to be this small they should have done a lot more popular champions but instead they did a lot of literal whos like Braum and Illaoi. And also they for some reason padded the roster with a lot of characters of the same region, 4 champions from Zaun (5 if you consider Teemo also is in Zaun for some part of his lore which means half the fucking roster is from like a tiny dot in the overall world) and is obviously to pander to the Arcane crowd that was big when the game started being developed, and also they added 2 characters from Ionia which, is ok since Ionia has a lot of popular champions but man there are literally no Shurima champions, no demacian champions, no bilgewater champions, no shadow isles champions, no Ixtal champions, no void champions, no demons, no darkins, no targon champion.And shit like Braum being pushed when there are enough big bodies instead of something like a mage like Lissandra really makes you thinkIts like they just went with the team favorites and didn't force themselves to have more region diversity. That or the roster was supposed to be way bigger but they just finished the ones that were the most finished to ship out the game ASAP.
>>538789764>non-sensical additions like IllaoiNon sensical to YOU but it's important to have representation for all body types, skin colors, and indigenous cultures, not just white barbie dolls with thin waists.
>>538789764game development started closer to when Ruined King was being made, which is why Illaoi and Braum are in it. they didn't think it would take so long to get this out the door
>>538789890If you needed a black person from bilgewater Pyke is literally one of the most liked champion designs in the game. Hell there you get schizo representation
>>538789764This game started 10 years ago. Think about what was going on.
how is riven not in the starting roster despite being explicitly inspired by fighting games
games mid i dropped it
>>538789764As much as I like big bodies, having 4 on a roster of 10 seems really weird. I guess Katalina lost her spot to one, since they had to restart her from scratch.
>>538790493same
>>538789890This is sarcasm right
>>538789764Same reason Akuma and Sagat are dlc on SF6. People are more willing to spend money on fan favorites than nobodies.
Rosterfagging is lame but>Leona (Targon, Sword/shield, armor)>Sett (Sett)>Riven (Riven)>Lee Sin (Lee Sin)>Sylas (Demacia, chains, mage)>Samira (Noxus, sword/pistol, adc rep)>Kha'Zix (Void, ninja function, fan favorite, non-human)>Blitz can stay>Azir (Shurima, puppet)
>>538790802Insane to me that Garen Lee and Riven arent in base roster already but Illaoi and Braum are. Baffling.
>>538790751Yeah, but SF6 has Chun-Li, Ryu, Guile, Ken. The people will buy the game for them.Who is legitimately going to go>Oh my God Braum/Illaoi/Teemo in 2XKO? I need to play it ASAP!! I CAN'T WAIT TO PLAY THOSE FLOPS!
WHERE IS MY LUXANNA? YOU INCOMPETENT FUCKS HATE MONEY OR WHAT?
This combo is pretty hard to do, the last 5S1 needs to be a perfect charge too but it works with a normal late one for lower damage
>>538790895I think they picked them because of their unique weapons. They don't the game to be a sword fighter just yet.
I'm sure they just had a roster of 20-25 champions and since Riot and the community was lighting fire down their ass they just focused on finishing 10 champions for the last year just so they can release ASAP.Hopefully this mean next year they pump champions left and right but who knows man, they might just release 3-4 champions lmao, if the roadmap they promised after launch shows less than 10 champions for 2026 I'm just going to drop this game when Tokon launches.
>>538790959SFV's roster really sucked and I only cared about DLCSF6 making Akuma DLC AGAIN made sure that I didn't stick with the game. Base roster of SF6 is so fucking terrible and they have no excuse besides greed.
>>538791246>they might just release 3-4 champions lmao, if the roadmap they promised after launch shows less than 10 champions for 2026 I'm just going to drop this game when Tokon launches.I might, too. Tokon looks like complete ass at this point but I cannot be assed to wait an entire year for a character or two I actually want. Teemo is a fucking shit pick.
I had a huge folder full of league art (and porn)I deleted it all, Riot went too fucking woke
>>538791425They are redeeming themselves.
>Darius is literally just pre-1000-nerfs Siegfried from GBVSIf you play this character you didn't beat the game and you certainly didn't beat me.GTAB.
>>538791505No, they are not.I don't like the stupid term but that shit is as safe horny as it gets.the last straw for me was covering up Syndra (after releasing 500 naked males).Oh, they also went big on dyke-fying my fav character.Riot is a legitimate tranny company.
>>538791373it could be a legitimate way to have lots of hype if they promise 1 new character every month like season 1 league when they released a champion every couple of week, it was cool a chaotic. Doubt they would.
>>538791608God I remember launch Siegfraud. The problem is not that these fuckers are strong it's how braindead they are to get good results with.
>>538791721yeah that's what I have been hoping for. I remember they released a ton of champs early on in league
>>538791246I'll be happy with 6 a year, with a steady release of one every other month.
>>538792050first year should be 1 a month honestlyit won't be, but it should.
It's fun to lab shit in this game, but the actual interactive competitive element is non existent. There's no thought, just mash shit in ther face until you get an auto confirm then do your autistic lab tricks.
Reminder Skullgirls launched with 8 characters and it was a 3 person tag game
>>538792525reminder 2xko isn't an indie gamereminder 2xko has way longer dev time than skullgirlsreminder 2xko has fisher price inputs
>>538792616>2xko has fisher price inputsand you STILL cant do combos LOL
>>538792895projection
are there actual electric inputs in this game
>>538793070no, what people call electrics are closer to lukes perfect charged knuckle from sfv
>>538793176didn't they add that in 6? that sounds litty doe
>>5387932836 actually simplified lukes charges
Why does everyone with like a name about Final Fantasy 14 just dominate so hard in this game?
>>538794559go back to reddior hang yourselfor both
Yea no wonder nobody is playing Jinx she sucks fucking cock with bad assists. They don't allow for any mix. She also has shit supers, her optimal solo route ends in the air and few characters can doubledown with her.Spent all my time investing and it's not worth it. Better to play a mix-focused comp
Juggernaut vi or darius is so fucking cringe.Vi is cringe.
Is the Blitzcrank hype already over? Aside from his assist, relevant players arenl saying he is not actually that great.
ive been here for the launch of a few fighting games, usually the first week they pump like 10 threads a daythis general is weirdly slow, either because of the beta/invite shit or this game just has no future on this board (which doesn't mean much for the game, CS is one of the biggest games and does not have a general here)
>>538795802I just wanted to post about the game without getting shit on on /fgg/. /lolg/ tends to canibalize any other lol related game since 99% of the generals that are alive just are there to post porn and maybe a bit of actual game discussion.
>>538794780Rocket is pretty good though, only projectile assist in the game other than like blitz hook but he mogs everybody anywayChompers does feel giga weenie but maybe theres some crazy tech you can do even if its dogshit in early days
>>538795802dead game dead general dead company
>>538795327I love vidoing her command grab into s2 into super is so fucked upand the cross up in the corner that shits good
>>538795327They are both overtuned cringelord characters.If i hear one more Vi player call her uppercut the "electric" i'm gonna blow my fucking brains out.At least Darius players know what they are.
>MvC fans make a MvClike game>Only one real zoner>3 of the cast members straight up have "ignore all zoning options" specialsThe fuck manWind wall should be flimsier Vi should have less invulBraum shouldn't just get to ignore everything even as an assist
Vi is CRAZY in this game holy shit. Just played online for the first time since the first beta, that character is ridiculous. REEEE diculous.
Vi pressure feels fake as fuck but if I press a button I'm dead.
the game having an extremely easy universal combo and not adding it as a core piece of the tutorial is dumb as hell.
i have lost 30 games in a row. i'm probably just going to wait until ranked comes out.. i dont really like fighting people with 20 years fighting game experience :(
>Low reaction time>Can't remember button sequence/misinputs quite many timesDo I not fit for fighting games? Because I want to start playing 2XKO as my first 'actual fighting game' but imho issues above keep hindering me tbdesu
>>538801808Why would you play a tag fighter as your first game? Play SF or Tekken instead.
>>5388018082xKO is terrible for a first fighting game, it's clearly aimed at the hardcore fighting game crowd.
>>538802075>low reaction time>SF6diabolical
>>538801783I have 20 years of experience with fighting game and just got clapped 40 - 2.Grow a spine nigga, it's not like your LoL ladder climb is going any better and you know it.
>>538801808reactions require you to know the game and know what to expect, when people react to something they were already expecting their opponent to do itlearning combos or pressing the right defensive button at the right time is just muscle memoryboth of those things improve the more you play, you can't expect to play as well as the pros you see streaming if you are new to the genre, they can pick up the game fast because they have played and reached a high level in tons of different fighting games already
>>538803262i just don't like the feeling of wasting my time because i'm too noob to learn. i legitimately don't know why some guy puts me in a combo for 1/2 my health twice and i die or what im supposed to do against it. i'll play some more once there's some noob guides or if i can play peopl emy skill level. i don't think i learn much from being stomped.
>>538803396Noted. So it's something that obtained as long as I play and train then
>>538801808You cant "react" to anything unless you know what you're looking for and what you should do in responseLow reaction time is a hurdle yeah but you can always mitigate it with practice and game knowledge i believe in you anon
>>538803637I mean to be fair to you, the game is genuinely unintuitive because it's a mishmash of mechanics from other games that the devs like.I've played a shitton of Marvel3 and even i don't really understand how the combo scaling in this game works because it seems to just be arbitrary depending on what characters you play.>Ekko's 3L can pickup after a hardknockdown into super>Blitz 3L can't for some fucking reasonShit like that.
>>538800160Teemo will save zoning dwtheyll give him dr doom finger lasers and flight
>>538797489>only projectile assist in the game other than like blitz hookEkko???
>>538800463She feels so goodSomething about hitting the charge just right does something to my brain idkmaybe i should play rhythm games
>>538804361That sounds way more like Xerath
>>538804140 meant for this >>538804148 too
Real question, how do I play this game? Is it on Steam?
The character difficulty stars seem to be completely arbitrary. What's the actual list from easy to hard for the cast? Does anyone besides Vi actually have a skill ceiling?
>>538805543nah you have to get a beta key and download the riot client.
>>538805729Gotcha
>>538805441nah i have it on good authority he hovers on a flying mushroom and shoots 8 darts at a time in a fan shaped cone
This game is a great example what happens when you just give players who have no dev experience but think they can make games unlimited funds and no oversight. Extremely bloated but at the same time severely lacking in content.
>>538805984He is the +R T*stament function with the invisible traps and high lows even the player doesnt know about
What the fuck is the point of retreating guard? Like I'm sure there will be some niche usecases, but who actually thought that the game desperately needed the ability to cancel blockstun into a backdash that gives super meter but is weak to lows? There's already a guard cancel that doesn't meter, so what the fuck is the point?Same goes for runs, why do they even exist when you can just spam the dash macro to wavedash and be seemingly faster? Does anyone on the dev team even stop to ask: "what does this mechanic add to the game?" or do they just throw all this shit in without a second thought?
Is there really no way to just queue up? The only way to play this shit is to join a room and manually interact with a machine? Who designed this garbage
>>538807883Ranked will save 2xkoJust one more week
>>538801808>actual fighting gameplay Granblue insteadHell, play StriveI wouldn't wish starting with this as you first FG on my worst enemy
Strive is fine but don't play granblue, it has like 300 players on pc lol
>>538809826how's your transition going
Combos feel so limiting in granblue...
>>538809826It's free like 2xKO though, so much better for trying out if you are not sure if fighters are for you.
>>538809983doesn't matter if barely anyone plays
>>538809826>>538810158retard
i wave dash without the macro
there is a reason why no one plays it btw :)
I can't get any pick up from Vi's assist 1
>>538801808You unironically should not get into FGs. FGs are a cycle of abuse. Little kids get brought into some teenager or family members basement to have some "fun" playing a little game called Street Fighter and 20 years later they're obsessed with "getting new blood into the scene". (No one wants to organically play this genre out of nowhere since it does nothing well.) The community is one of the most gay and retarded videogame communities out there and will stab you in the back for sometimes nothing. The developers hate their core audience, treat them as the retarded paypigs they are, and try to throw them under the bus for casual appeal constantly. Learning the games takes as long as an actual skill like learning an instrument except you make no money from it, get no respect (rightfully), and produce nothing tangible after a session like you would with an actual hobby like woodworking or drawing. You rarely feel joy or satisfaction, mostly anger and depression when playing games in the genre. FG players are so retarded they could beat someone's ass 5-0 and still be the one leaving the set mad as fuck. Just leave those of us who were touched by FGs as children to our suffering and save yourself, anon.
>>538801808Reaction time is a flat-out fucking meme. You train your reactions over time. No one jumps into fighting games are reacts perfectly to shit because they don't even understand what they are looking for and what to do when they actually DO see something. For example: I was a Marvel 3 player who learned how to react to fucked up mixups, then I tried learning Street Fighter and could not for the life of me react to a jump in with DP. Because my brain wasn't equipped with this knowledge yet, since that was so foreign to the other game(s) I was already decent at. You will remember button sequences over time, too. Another learned trait that you have to teach yourself how to do. If you can find joy in losing you can get good at fighting games. Because you will lose a LOT early on. I truly think that's the only qualifier for getting good at fighting games. Win or lose you have to have fun.
>>538801808>Do I not fit for fighting games?You fit in. Id say 2xko is pretty demanding for a first game but if you have passion to drive you it doesnt matter. What does matter is time, the vast majority of people in these threads have over 100 hours in some fighting game if not signifantly more. Before you can start reacting to situations you need to be comfortable enough with the controls that actions just feel like second nature
>>538810536Actually honest fighting game player, listen to this man.>>538811094Dishonest faggot trying to get another newb to teabag, don't believe a word he says.
>>538810536It's honestly sad how true this is but I disagree with one thing. Fighting games do something well, when you're good at them your ability shines through very easily. The rest is pretty much true, especially with how much developers hate their players, but this is kinda true for every genre nowadays.
>>538811279I don't like fighting noobs or treating them badly
I saw this and this is when I truly knew 2xko is fucked, you can't run a f2p on just autists that spend all day in training mode, hell they can just bootup the offline client for that and not even bother logging in
>>538807883the excuse/explanation is "we want you to get that feel of going to a local and hopping on a setup."the reality is they just want another thing to be able to sell you/pad out battlepasses, and that's gonna be all the avatar gear. no lobbies, no avatar gear, then the devs would be forced to actually come up with something of value to go for>>538809826literally if you don't play gbvs during peak hours, ranked will give you the same 2 players EVERY SINGLE TIME. i literally was trying to use gbvs as my 2xko waiting room and couldn't because NOBODY plays that fucking game
>>538814378>the excuse/explanation is "we want you to get that feel of going to a local and hopping on a setup." It is so funny to hear this and then Strive which had an equally awful system added Ranked
>>538814571and the immediate, UNIVERSAL response, was "thank god now i can actually play this game again"it's insanenobody wants to fumble around with a lobby, literally the goal of an adult playing fighting games is "maximize my free time and let me get as many matches as possible during my time with the game"nobody even talks in the fucking lobbies! people barely even say ggs to me!
>>538814791>nobody wants to fumble around with a lobby,As the main ranked mode yeah, people still like lobbies but SF6 has done them the best, completely optional but constantly have little events and tournaments for people to join in on.>literally the goal of an adult playing fighting games is "maximize my free time and let me get as many matches as possible during my time with the game" Yeah I feel this and it was what also made me put down Strive until ranked.Still it's really funny realizing the lobbies happened because the Canon brothers really thought they could bring back the arcade days
>>538814378>if you don't play gbvs during peak hours, ranked will give you the same 2 players EVERY SINGLE TIME.Idunno I have played at what feels like peak hours and I still get the same person in ranked, granted I'm in Europe
>>538815518i was able to get games in the casual lobby but that meant you'd either be fighting someone way above your level or way below it 99% of the time
>>538777220But how can that be when Shit Fighter hasn't been anything worth playing since 2, and has strictly been a money laundering scheme propped up by the FGC (Faggy Gay Capcucks)?
>>538815872sf2, 3, 4, and 5 all have their good points and are worth playing casually for funsies6? no lol 6 is definitely the worst fg ever made and a contender for worst video game period
>>538815993based
>>538815993>everything but the latest game is... le good!Surest sign of a brainwashed capcuck. This cycle has gone on with 3, 4, 5 and now 6. Correctly identified as dogshit at launch, instantly becomes a misunderstood gem the moment the next thing launches. Take the tiny gook cock out of your mouth and escape Okamoto's Faggy Gay Capcuck maze before you let SF7 blinker you into thinking SF6 was actually le good all along.
>>538816349Nope. 5 was ass on release but got good over time. 6 is terrible from the ground up. 4 was great on its release and only got better and better up until Ultra. SF3 sucked though.
>DIS LIL NIGGAH REALLY BOUGHT 2XKUSO!!!Ahahahahah!
>>538814791>nobody even talks in the fucking lobbies! people barely even say ggs to me!Because the vast majority of people play fighters on controllers, not on keyboard. Switching back to keyboard in a middle of your gaming session is a hassle, and that's even assuming your keyboard is within reach and you don't have a setup where you can play the game from a couch/sofa on a second monitor.Also I haven't tried 2xKO chat features yet, but every other fighter I have ever played has had absolutely abysmal chat features, so there's no point in even trying to use them.
>>538816349the difference here is that while those games got improvements over time that made them more fun, sf6 is the exact same game it was during closed beta number 1, and it's been made clear to us that they have no interest in changing it for the better because casuals love it
stop bitching about darius he literally cannot end a blockstring without having to risk getting parried and eating shitevery other champ can just make you hold pressure for 90 seconds straight
>>538818648>every other champ can just make you hold pressure for 90 seconds straightNobody can. Parry is outright getting nerfed because blockstrings are too stale and being on the offense makes you lose.At higher level lobbies parry is already having a devastation negative effect on the game.
>>538818716But muh hype SF6 slowdown parry for the epic reversal comebacks! Literally the reason it's in the game. SF6 released during development, they saw the parry and thought it was cool and so threw it in. They even have low parries and high parries separately but both use the same animation, a really good indication of how sloppily and haphazardly this game was put together.
universal parries are always fucking gay... its fine if a character has it in their kit and is balanced for it, but it always turns out bad when everyone can do it
>>538819023Uhhmmn akshually sweetie, Max said that Third Strike is the best fighting game of all time and that has an universal parry. Checkmate 2xKO haters.
>>538819023>>538818989People WILL get good at parrying I don't understand why Devs never seem to understand that...If the reward for parry is too good then that's basically it. It's like they don't know that speedrunners exist and they can do insane stuff with practice and the same applies to fighting games.I didn't even like instant blocking reducing blockstun being a solution to stuff because it changed blockstrings entirely. I understand they want extreme skill expression but they've doomed themselves to having a game where going on offense means you lose like For Honor.
parry's a fun idea but it disproportionately affects certain characters and that's bad
>>538819542The easy solution is just to make it cost more and NOT refund it on successful parries. The reward of getting out of pressure and getting a full combo is ENOUGH
>game tries to force me to fight known e celebs who have been playing this game for 2 years at events now and have gotten dozens of chances to play it at riot, at home, etcno, i don't think i willdoes anyone seriously want to fight these guys? fuck off
>>538819380It's an outgrowth of the "always buff" mentality. They don't want things to to be weak, because in their limited mindset mechanic being weak and feeling weak are the same thing and if something is weak it is not fun. Hence they make offense completely overpowered, which leads to game being extremely one-sided where blocking is a vestigial mechanic without any real use since you are guaranteed to get opened up by the insane mix built into the 30 second blockstrings. That's an obvious flaw, but because their mindset limits them from weakening the offense in any meaningful way, they instead overcorrect by buffing various defensive mechanics. Which then leads to the game becoming extremely stale as we saw with AL2. They are doomed to swing between these 2 extremes, as addressing the root of the problem is antithetical to their views on how fighting games should be.
>>538819839i think current tuko is way more fun than al2, tho. dev team seems to listen to playerbase pretty well
>jinx is on screenBWAGH! BWAGH! SQUAWWK! BWACK BWACK! HA HA! BWACCK! PANCAKE! BWAAAACK
>>538820126I agree that it's more fun but they have a growing problem that will actually kill the game if not addressed quickly.
fury sure does last quite some time
How the fuck do we get 4 big bodies and Teemo? How do we get Blitzcrank? So many characters to pick from, Riven, Lee Sin, Draven, Katarina, Gangplank, Akali, Ezreal, Jayce, Zac, Tahm Kench, any of the mages, but we get fucking Teemo. I've never even played League and I could have made a better roster desu
>>53882111610 years ago the mood for Riot Games was very different.To this day I still don't understand how it's a roster for 10 players for a tag fighter launch
>>538821228If they arent releasing 1 character every 2 months the game will die so fast
>>538821116Nu-riot is an absolute embarrassment, soulless as fuck.
>>538821116>How do we get Blitzcrank?what character would be better for a grappler archetype? sett would be more of a brawler.>but we get fucking Teemohe's such an iconic character, if anything he's one of the LEAST weird picks
>>538821293The game will be dead in less than 2 months. You will of course have Riot shills arguing otherwise since we don't get accurate numbers because the game isn't on Steam. One of the biggest complaints would-be-beginners have about fighting games is that if they pick up a random fighter, there won't be anyone that's on their level to fight and they will just get bodied by people who have played for years, so they can only attempt to pick up new fighters during a very small release window. Riot brilliantly decided to eliminate this issue completely with the closed beta into rolling release, making it so that even on release you will have tons of very experienced players ready to body the new beginners, so only a very few stick with the game. 2xKO is like a collection of the worst possible choices you could have made for a new fighter, even ignoring the gameplay.
>>538821976It's true kino. I love the idea of tournaments starting on day 1 of closed beta and probably day 1 of release to also make sure people get filtered further from the competitive scene.
>>538821976>The game will be dead in less than 2 monthsmeanwhile in the real world, literally every fg player playing this shit has nothing but positive things to sayit's an fg for fg players
>>538822449>it's an fg for fg playersYeah, that explains why it has no motion inputs.
>>538822856you're stuck as fuck on that bro
>>538822992That's the first time I've commented on motion inputs. I don't mind lack of motions myself (Rising is my favorite fg currently) but it's absolutely something that veteran fg players care deeply about, so trying to argue that 2xKO was made for them is nonsense. The truth of the matter is that 2xKO is a bizarre hodgepot of concepts with no clear identity or idea what it is trying to be.
>>538809826It's a fighting game, you only need 2 people
>>538823120ok, but that's like the ONLY casualized thing about the game. yes fg players hate modern controls, that's constantly being clowned on in sf6, but i really just haven't seen people caring that much man
This game has the worst tactile feedback I've ever seen the character select menu is terrible, it feels like walking on molasses the hitstop is nauseating on block, hits feel lame as hell most of the time, landing a big counterhit just doesn't feel good. Combos feel terrible to execute, the controls are terrible at least the characters are pretty unique and I imagine the game will indeed have crazy depth but besides that I can't think of a single positive point
why didn't they make a 3d fighter with stylish visuals?
>>538823578Because the devs are 2D fighting game players trying to create a game they would love to play, everything else is irrelevant to them, hence the current state of the game.
>>538822449you didn't see only Dota 1 players praising Leagueyou didn't see only CS players praising Valorant think about that for a moment
>>538823645fighting game players want a game with no motion input and a complicate control layout?
>>538823684i cant really tell what point you're trying to make desu considering league killed not only dota but every other moba until dota 2 dropped
>>538822449FG "influencers" will shill anything as long as the check bounces. Do I actually have to start listing every FG they've shilled that ended up dying in two months or less? Their opinions are literally worthless due to them being poverty streamers whose opinions are for sale. I mean fucking hell, these "people" shilled HunterxHunter and DNF Duel.
>>538823958you're kinda retarded
>>538823993i just think that this game has a chance of being a moderate success, and certainly won't "die in less than 2 months"
>Game makes me play 3 matches before letting me play anything else>Finds all 3 matches immediately>Afterwards places me into an empty lobby with only one other person who is AFKIs this really the only way to play? Just cross your fingers and hope it places you into a lobby with people in it?
>>538824067you're kinda retardedbut i'll throw you a hint: legend of runeterra was consider a success back when it launched too ;)
Murray sends his regards
Am I missing something or does Jinx feel like half a character? I know you can interact with the projectiles but they take so long to come out that trying to throw one out feels too unsafe
>>538823684>you didn't see only Dota 1 players praising LeagueThese groups didn't become distinct communities for a while and once they did of course they hated each other. If you create two distinct groups in opposition you can pretend anyone hates each other proving something is bad, I'm sure people would hate me for my GPU if I started identifying with team red because of the brand I use. Won't make my games suddenly stop running>you didn't see only CS players praising ValorantYes you did, CS players were desperate for something fresh that would also come with a big player base that riot can offer which is the same thing the FGC is excited about with this game. Even on a very surface level the FGC wants to see a F2P game that brings new people into the community, unlike your other comparisons the FGC contains every fighting game (except smash) this isn't one game positioned against the entire FGC.Yeah Guilty Gear players hate SF6 but people in the FGC play/like both games
>>538810536holy TRVKE
>>538824254The 3 matches are bot matches.The lobbies are region-lockedThey did not think this through.
>>538824264>legend of runeterra was consider a success back when it launched too ;)NOOOO it fucking wasn't LMAO
>>538810536>obsessed with "getting new blood into the scene"I'm 2/4 atm when it comes to getting my friends into fighting games. 2XKO will help me get to the 3rd one so the game has to stay alive until then.
>>538824476What I meant was even casuals enjoyed the games. When those games released, you heard all sort of different type of gamers enjoying them. I have only heard FGC people talking about this game.>>538824626Yes it was
>>538824701>Yes it wasbrother no the absolute fucking FUCK it was not you are literally making shit up
>>538824768Don't talk about stuff you know fuck-all about
>>538824804nah bro you came from a parallel universe, this is your last (you) from me
dead game dead general dead company
Is it easy to find a DUO partner?
>>538825807>find and fight someone of similar skill for a bit>ask them if they want to duo after your set is over>repeatAlso if the game doesn't have a Duo Ranked queue when it's out I'll be really disappointed.
>>538825958Hey anon, wanna duo?
>>538825992Yes, but I can't because of region locked lobbies.
>>538826117. . .Amazing
hope these threads are more alive when the game goes public lol
>>538826557dead game dead general dead company
finding match for 5 mins in EU ..............
>>538823578because they couldn't even make a 2d fighter with stylish visuals
Characters I've tried so far:>Yasuo >Ekko>Jinx>Darius>Illaoi>Blitzcrank>ViCharacters I've liked so far>
>>5388275963D fighters are easier for modern devs to make than 2D ones since they insist on using 3D engines and models anyway.
why are ahri's animatinos so bad what the fuck kek
>>538827281it's midmorning on a work day for a closed beta
>>538827863Small indie company with a limited budget and time, please understand.
>>538828248>>538827863Think about it this way, we can give it another 8 years to develop and it can fail just like me when I hit 18.
>>538827863The assist character doesn't even have an animation when it leaves the stage. It just simply disappears.Look at Darius here:https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2564154783?t=05h51m02s
>>538827960stop this cope man, i rejoined the lobby and got a match in 2 secondsif you cant play a game at every hour then its dead
I'm having fun with 2xko but I guess I'm the only one with this bug where the game just decides to lag after an hour of play.If the lobby has more than 10 people I also have 10 fps in it, no I'm not on a shitty laptop
>>538828769You can't call a game that actually hasn't released dead because it was never alive. I don't think the game will have great longevity but it's unfair to judge it now.
Now that the dust has settled. Is this cel-shade lookin' shit better than the SF5 lookin' shit they showed at the announcement?
>>538828924infinitely better, imo
>>538828924this looks half way decent, especially if it's a 3d fighter
>>538828924yeah but there's no way that retards stuck on 1050m notebooks could run this and that's half the pc playerbase now
Robot supremacy. There are so many TOD's based around blitz's assist
i laughed out loud when i saw theres literally no transition between idle and walking animations
>>538828924Yes but for me who has a bad eyesight, sometimes I can't tell the difference between the characters and the background. This issue is even worse with Strive, it's totally unplayable
>>538824309she doesn't even have a proper combo enderit's weird how half baked she is considering they revealed her so many years ago
>>538829228i was talking with a friend how skullgirls restands killed the game right before blitz assist got revealedreally really terrible mechanic that shouldnt exist
>>538829146i think you got the guy's question wrong
>>538829260their reasoning for that is to make the game rollback friendlyif you move like you have high rollback then no one has high rollback
>>538829228>darius in second placethat's pretty based. but yeah, there's no way blitz stays in his current state right?i'm actually pretty surprised yasuo has ended up being this big, but with the oki nerfs it'd make sense that ekko/ahri aren't as dominant as they were.
>>538829487But why would they nerf oki? I WANT MY TUUUUURNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN
>>538829590yeah it turns out getting pinged by ekko at full screen using 2x assist ahri then getting looped by reversal-safe 9 way mix isn't very fun
>>538829472it's pretty funny considering how SLUGGISH lights feelahri's crouch jab animation is just mind blowing
>>538829632So you're saying this could've been avoided if they weren't spergs and included different assist modes? HMPH!
>>538829365just have a high contrast mode like T8
>>538829801honestly considering the dev team literally consists almost exclusively of guilty gear players, many of whom prefer +r and rev2 to strive, you'd think they'd absolutely refuse to do anything about how strong oki was lolfortunately, someone somewhere tardwrangled them
>wavedashing is done by literally just mashing dash why...? who asked for this? why not just have it as default run option if it's that easy to do? it's not something you have to practice, it's literally just a chore
>>538829146I'm running the game on 10502gb flawlessly.
Do you think they'll give away more codes? I'd like to invite a few more friends...
there are so many button+button inputs that i'm still very frequently panicking and pressing the wrong one in scramble situations such as pressing throw instead of parry or dash instead of throw
>>538830841I don't understand why dash has a button combination shortcut when it also has the standard 66 input AND it's own macro. Literally preventing throw from having a better input and instead being forced into a horrible M+H input. Fuck whoever thought that was a good idea.
>>538830841>>538831153at least it doesnt have motions
2XKOs control scheme feels like it was made by fighting game fans that don't understand game design or why fgs have made buttons the way they do also also unironically thinking a QC is the issue
>>538830841I have played this for at least 10 hours and still do the wrong super because the button combos are like P4A except its like 8 buttons instead of 4
>>538830282>who asked for this?"DUUUUUUDES WE FUCKING LOVE MAHVEL WE LOVE SMASH ADD IN WAVE DASH THIS GAME IS GONNA BE GREAT!!!!!" - 2XKO team
>>538833290>2XKO ... feels like it was made by fighting game fans that don't understand game designFixed that for you, no need to limit the scope to just the control scheme.
>>538830316yes, devs have to make games look worse so you can run it and buy cosmetics and battlepasses
>>538830282because it feels better to mash dash than hold it?
>>538835181no it doesn't
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oc1akTRknRoThoughts?
>>538836547Why does he always make that expression? So ugly
>>538829228>crutchclank lost to illaoi
>>538836547It would take too long to explain, but I disagree.
>>538836547stopped looking at the list after seeing the 10>senna>kassadin>miss fortune>twitch
>>538836547based for putting rell on 10
I'm enjoying the game more than I thought I would
>>538809826300 concurrent players is a lot for a fighting game, that means there are thousands of regular players who aren't currently online and you only need 1 opponent to play the game
>>538805627every character is easy to play at a basic level, optimization is another story
>>538805627yasuo > vi >>> the resti may be biased, as i only really played yasuo and ahri
>>538822449Nah most people hate it because it's tag shit and it's also got all the garbage of modern fighters>1 button specials>long ass combos (look at marvel 2 if you want a comparison of a good tag game, most combos that aren't infinites are fast as hell and usually very low hit, just high damage)>a million mechanics thrown together haphazardly>screen cluttered with characters and vfx making things hard to see while characters blend into the background instead of being outlined/popping out nicely>long ass canned super animations that get boring to watch after 2 matches (especially bad with this game since they cheaped out on them, lazy backgrounds, hardly ever see the defending character getting hit just watching the attacking character swing at air, bad animation)>slow animations in general>neutral skip charactersNot many people like this. People just play whatever is new, but it won't last just like every other new FG with these issues.
>>538843302i like it, there hasn't been a game this good released since xrd rev2
>>538823684DotA 1 players created League, I don't just mean the devs, but most of the early players were DotA players and the game never would have went anywhere without their early support.Valorant is a straight up clone of CS with hero abilities thrown in instead of universal utility. If anyone praises Valorant gameplay they are (maybe unwittingly) praising CS.Not sure what your point is anyway. FGs are a niche genre and trying to appeal to a wider audience has never worked out for them. Make them for the people who enjoy them or you won't have a good game.
>>538842445>300 concurrent players is a lot for a fighting gamelol
>>538845047go play sf6 lil bro
>>538783812>"as..."stopped reading there redditor
>>538829365you can change the colors and gamma in the gpu control panel, shooter players do this to see stuff better.
So does ekko just suck now? Been looking around and it seems like most people are already moving on from him. The oki changes really fucked him, they nerfed his solo routing, his movement and his neutral is basically a shitty slow projectile. He even struggles against jinxs zoning which is hilarious because zoning in this game is incredibly weak and most of the characters can just completely invalidate that shit at will. Not ekko, though. I genuinely don't see a point in playing him anymore and I'm probably swapping off of him very soon. Easily my favorite character of the roster but I'm not struggling in this game out of stubbornness like I did in COTW
>>538850807all ekko players are shit, everyone just sits fullscreen and does down fireballdoubt hes that weak
>>538850807losing his oki is really big,but he still has nice mix in blockstringsand to get that, he's reliant on his teammate
https://youtu.be/TJqeVIljrg4Another "Jinx Combo" video that gives me less damage than shit I find myself, why is there so little optimized info out there. Fucking faggots
>constantly parry braindead juggernaut darius>leaves quicklylmaooo what a shitter, all he knew was 90% HP AA combos
>>538850807>waaaah>The fastest character in the game can't deal with 18 frame rockets waaaahLow elo shitter kill yourself
>>538851750the fuck else is he supposed to do he's got that and his divekick, and stubby buttons. that's about it. and he can't even confirm his stubby buttons consistently outside of the corner without meter
>>538853094I would rape you in this game faggot
>>538853104he has the best movement speed play neutral
>>538810536>broo just don't do anything brooo you could be doing something else insteadcringe pessimism
>>538852745always look at twitter instead of youtube
>>538850807just use your assist as a projectile to get in, you can legit get instant mixups with blitz even if they block
SO many people roll in the corner backwards like retards.....im just going to punish throw you 24/7 dude
Heh...stop being predictive kiddo
>>538856208good thing it says P2 over his head in case you forget who you're playing mid combo
>>538856208to be fair using ekko s2 on block is pretty retardedbut parry is definitely too strong if you're gonna have it in a game that already has push block and burst
How do I do fury without being in a blockstring/combo ?
>game automatically makes me leave a set after 1-0They think I'm a faggot now..
>>538857738isn't it just the same input?team + special
is there a way to hide the info bar at the top when watching replays?
one thing i hate about the control scheme is it's so easy to get a super from pianoing a string with a specialthat is literally impossible with directional inputs, it only happens in a game with a trash input reader like sf6
some loser just left after i was just feeling him outcan't stand faggots that think they're hot shit winning 1 game
>>538858804i get accidental supers sometimes, toorarely, but it still happensthey should reduce the same-time leniency or something idk
>>538858804*motion inputs, not directional>>538858956yeah probablyseems retarded that a super can come out from a special that doesn't convert to it. but it is a tag fighter so it's gonna be retardedly free
This nigga wants me to do THIS?! I can't even consistently get the super orb hit what is this shit
>>538859184it's cool but it just sends you back to fullscreendoesn't seem worth it for a character like ekko
>>538859450If only there were situations where the opponent wasn't at 100% health after the starter.
>>538856208Parry is way too retarded lmao why can you get a normal combo even in sf6 your scaling is completely fucked
>>538828924Look how thick that Ahri is. God, what could have been...
>>538850596Thank you. I'll do that
Why is OBS such a shit software holy fuck
>>538829146>>538834571>look worseif anyone actually thought this, mvci beyond wouldn't be praised as a massive improvement over the base game
>>538861316even retarded titty streamers manage to use it, that's on you
>>538861517They get their managers to do it for them, you think these whores are technically sound?
>>538861586They're clearly smarter than retards like you lol
>>538861758based woman respecter
>>538861758Did you know the highest iq holder is a woman
Was so much easier to convert off assist hits in DBFZ, this the moves have so much recovery I can't dash in after a stray hit of something
>>538863107You're supposed to handshake tag after getting the hit.
>>538862113not him but what did she actually accomplish? besides a meme test that you can train for.
Guys, I wanted to like this game cause of the graphics but it's so annoying to play.Not only is it a comboboar game, but you don't even have to play well to get hits in, you just spam the dash button like an animal and do degenerate tags back and forth, then once something lands you combo movie the enemy for 70% of his life and set up a 50-50 that pretty much guarantees a hit since the game is so zoomed in and so full of shit everywhere that you can't tell what's going to happen next.I don't like tag games in general but this is the worst one I've played, especially with that weird ass camera when someone tags, and how hard it is to tell who the point character is.
>>538863913the game isnt for fun, its for tournament attendeesditch it now and maybe fighting game devs will learn a lesson
>>538863913>how hard it is to tell who the point character ishe's right here
>>538864315>the game isnt for fun, its for tournament attendeeswhat are you even saying lmao so it's for people who are good at fighting games and want a high skill ceiling? it's fun for me then
>>538864517>so it's for people who are good at fighting games and want a high skill ceilingyou havent attended a tournament if you think thats the crowd that goes
>>538864347Man when a yasuo rushes at me in this fast af game and he looks exactly like a point character and he can switch at any point then I can't look at the other character that is on the other side of the screen to see if he has a small pointer on top of him while defending against the mofo, my mental stack is already overwhelmed by all the crap that's happening in this game.Or when I'm playing Darius and the enemy has Darius as well and then calls Blitzcrank and the screen is filled with bullshit and zoomed in.It's so unplayable.
>>538864315yes, this game is for marlinpie the zato player and friends who enjoy the single player experience in fighters, you don't get to play, just watch them do 100 hit combos and unblockables on you.
>>538864980but it zooms outyour complaints are just day 1 complaints youre obviously not going to be experienced already(unless you're a streamer invited to every playtest)the fact that they can join tourneys is absolutely insane
>>538864980a game like this isn't meant to be grasped within a few days, it's meant to be something you play for a long time and it never gets old because you always have room to improve, take it one step at a time (or don't, it's not for everyone)
>>538865209>>538865252Hi riot marlinpie, it doesn't zoom out if I'm next to them in the corner, and I don't want to play this crap for 1000 hours to do some basic shit, I'd rather play a better game.You won't get my money.
literally all they have to do is add a mode without assists
>>538867162well, that and add like 10 more characters as quickly as possible
>>538866780it's like complaining about an execute in valorant with 10 different abilities being thrown out, when you're only familiar with playing counterstrikeit's overwhelming at first, but you get better at understanding and defending against it over timeyou're just literally new
https://x.com/i/status/1966221775794221518Here's your zoner bro
>>538868068> do anti air> get punished for not hitting an opponent in the air
does anything I do or buy in the beta carry over to the full release?
>>538868360no
>get email that im in the beta on account that im already in the beta with>cant enter lobbies anymore?????????? did riot just softlock me
>>538868353top 4 are people that have been invited to play the game at riot multiple times btw
>>538868648Shouldn't have cheated bro, they don't force you to install vanguard for nothing.
>>538868648dude I reinstalled the game pressed play and for some reason the game sent 10 friend requests to random people
>>538869489>>538868648ok I went to the r*ddit and someone posted the same problem, time to lab
They just sent out another wave of invites
I had high hopes for this game as a 2v2 game but it's not feasible above a casual level. It's just so much easier to run your 2 touch resets alone rather than with someone else. So in the end it's just a typical tagkuso with 9 characters and a LoL skin on top.
>>538872314Yeah and the servers got fucked over it
Coolest combo in the game
I got the invite.Is the game shit?
can i get these controls in actual buttons on my controller instead of some random fucking ass color im never gonna remember in the 2 hours ill play this game
>>538873682Nigger how retarded can you be to not remember 2 fucking buttons on your controller
>>538873763why would the game refer to buttons on my controller in the tutorial then when i check the move list to remember shit its fucking lmh?????????????????????????????????? no other game is this retarded
https://2xko.riotgames.com/en-us/beta/invite#code=180f2161-6c40-4d13-ba4c-42473baf8fd6
Why the fuck can Blitz even run
>>538874642he can in lol
>>538875364He needs to be in install for the speed boosto tho
>>538874571thanks bro
Damn seems today's invite wave was huge, all my smurfs got invited at the same time.Guess they want to test the servers getting slammed on a Friday night.
looks like the actual league servers are also fucked not only 2xko
they invited too many people...
>>538845047do you know what genre youre dealing with lil nigga, 300 is a lot
>>538777636L M HT S1 S2Im having a bit of trouble doing supers tho so I might goL M S1T H S2
This game feels like for MvC "fans" who hated actually playing MvCZoning being non functioning, half the cast being big bodies etc
god this game sucks fucking ass
>>538877140Do smurfs come with invite codes to invite others with?
https://2xko.riotgames.com/en-us/beta/invite#code=6bf03add-9a48-448d-a4f3-adf9af2d1fd6
>>538868960I can't remember a single game being this bad in this regard. They've invited some people so many times, and held the two betas, it feels like people like sonicfox been playing for years. even if they hadn't, of course they'd still beat me, but I much more enjoy watching people 'discovering' the game
>>538879801Open development can be good up to certain extent, it will take about a year to level out the playing field.
>>538879801SF5 was pretty bad too but Capcom's solution angered a lot of people and made them not participate in SF6 stuff.Capcom just banned people for 6 months from tournaments if they helped in development.
>>538880962who the hell tried that game and didn't tell them to scrap the whole drive mechanic
>>538836989if sonicfox is playing it there is a 1000% chance illoi is broken bullshit
>>538881180Let me tell you this. SF5 betas were really fucking fun and drive felt fun to use.
>>538882594fury is completely retarded, i just sit fullscreen and wait it out nowon top of having improved movement/damage you also have drive rush
>>538882051are you talking about 5 or 6, either way I agree, the 5 beta was the most fun I had with the game, I will forever miss that version of nash and cammy
*whiff punishes your crouching jab*GGs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I STILL CAN'T PLAY THE GAME ONLINE
>>538868648I had that bug with the lobbies but it fixed itself when I relaunched the game
Jinx teams looked turbo cancer to play against
>>538883832are you using a vpn?
>>538885004no, there are more people with this bug
A lot of people with #FFXIV at the ends of their names in these lobbies now
>>538886003well, I guess its better than some shit like #HRT
>>538818989why are you just lying for no reasonall the parries have separate animations
What's pulse combo?
>>538887549Iron Man reference
>>538887549auto combo
>have 2 chars with over 50% hp on both>enemy is yasuo 20% hp>he sits fullscreen spamming windwall and tornadoes waiting for me to jump inlmfao come and play the game lil bro
>>538887968you gonn learn
>>538879363thank youuu :3
after playing sf6 for so long, the most refreshing thing about 2xko isn't that the characters are all unique from each other or that the combos are actually fun to do or that there's somehow MORE neutral despite it being an assist call spam gameit's the fact that you only see the level 3s pretty rarely, meaning you aren't sitting through 8 second long supers 3 times per match
i feel like blitz is gonna get nerfed pretty hard. his damage is outrageous for how easily he accesses it
>>538889254He's going to get the Ahri treatment where he's pretty mediocre but he's an enabler. So I expect him to become one of the worst characters in the game with no good assists and average damage.
i like the game but they need to lower the meter gain a bit. Ending every combo into dhc multiple times per round is boring afalso having more interesting ways to spend it, maybe ex moves
>>538889331I'm going to main Ahri even if she is shit tier but man her rush down is garbage compared to ekko and Yasuo and her zoning and oki are garbage compared to jinx
>>538882594this webm is sponsored by: VasGOD
>>538882594my hubby is so strong and cool
Has anyone tried to make an account to play cross region? Like, you're EU but you make a NA account. Does that work?
they need to give air dash to everyone and double airdash to ahri
>>538891241That works.
Jinx needs a double airdash too
fury definitely lasts WAY too fucking long tho lol
dead game tokon will cremate it
>You can OS which char dies with double down sometimesHehe
>>538891670>capeshitlmao
>>538891670I'll play both
>>538891670>tokonbaby game
>>538892435>>538892395>>538892120KYS CANNON BROTHER SHILLS
>Play with leverless>Light - Medium - DASH - HeavyWeird placement
>>538891670>console warring between a game that's not even openly available and a game that you've never even playeddude go back
>Vi dash through Ekko's panic super>punch him in the face >Vi super through all of Jinx's projectiles>punch her in the faceKino champ
>>538888461man as a barafag youre kinda eating well with current FGs
>>538892528>If you like 2xko you are a shillI think /fgg/ has too many schizos that this game will never be able to be discussed here, people on twitter and twitch like it and are less schizophrenic about their complaints and I don't think this general will withstand the test of time
As the game gets older Blitz loses its oomph, just matched against someone that knew he could just parry my hook and it made my life miserable. Might be looking into switching into Yasuo today.
Blitz is really fun but jesus he does so much damage with non optimal 2 button into special crap
>>538863504>IQ is just a meme testYou've heard it here first folks
>>538882594What's insane is he could've dash cancelled at some point for more damage.
I fucking love the sway under
>>538891670An objectively slower and less combo intensive game, get that babby shit out of here
>>538882594Fury is so fucking retarded, Jinx can straight up pull a Injustice Superman with her fucking Cable super and delete 50% off of anything you try fullscreen with it
I need some music mods man
So what is the safest air tech option generally
Does every move in this game have like 60 frames of recovery
>>538893489It is, look up the highest iq people in the world, the ones that actually took the test, not people that others think they have high iq, look up people that took the test and have the highest iqs in history and then see what they accomplished in life and it's not gonna be shit of importance.People just assume that successful people have high iqs cause they are successful, yet when you look at people with high iqs they are often just a random wage slave with no accomplishments or some meme books no one takes seriously.
>>538802107but heres the thing, the game also has a lot of dumbass decisions that can only be justified under the thin veil of "accessibility" like everything feeling so fucking SLOW
>>538892805sf6 at least had good looking guys but it's also one of the worst games ive ever played2xko has my literal husbando so im playing this shit til it dies
I hate Darius so much>Blockstring ender that does 10% of your health anyways is also an auto OS against literally every single defensive mechanic in the game, deals a debuff and goes into a single button hit confirm for 50% damage with a super bar
>>538897515are you stupid? parry it and you get a free combo
anyone still needs a code?https://2xko.riotgames.com/en-us/beta/invite#code=f4378e11-2db9-442a-b12a-53fdbefe8030
>>538897515brother just parry that shit one time and he'll never try it again
>>538897568>>538899078I keep forgetting this mechanic existsProbably mostly because low parry doesn't parry mids and I eat shit because of defaulting to it
>>538897586Thanks vroHave a cute Ahri
>>538899150learning parry is one of the biggest things that'll help you in fighting him, he is SUPER weak to it
Just played my last match of this garbage, I'm uninstalling.Riot should sue the idiots that took 10 years to make this crap, they lost them so much money by making a game 50 people in the world will like.
>>538899280Aight shill the mechanic to me more, what are some ez pz places to use it and cuck him outAlso going back to the initial special, doesn't the move have massive pushback, how the fuck are you still punishing him after parrying it
>S tier: Vi, YasuoThe best at skipping neutral and controlling it>A tier: Blitzcrank, EckoBlitz will fall down as mixup characters develop, but will never be bad like grapplers in other games. Ecko has great mixups but has a harder time getting in than the S tier >B tier: Darius, AhriThey have great stuff, but they are somewhat honest in my opinion>C tier: JinxShe is too honest>D tier: Illaoi, BraumGreat support, but it feels like they need support first to give support.This is my early impressions. It's pretty balanced overall, with not that much of a gap between tiers. I don't like A+ A- faggotry.
>>538899627Illaoi is probably the best character in the game followed by Jinx.
>>538900106How so? I do believe people will develop some dirty shit with Illaoi tentacle super, but even then, tag fighters tend to benefit mixup characters more over time.It's just day 3, so I'm not trying to prove my point or fight at all. I'm genuinely curious.
>>538900864The biggest strength is that you can't parry Illaoi's pressure
>>538899448easiest is when he does the followup to his big horizontal swing. you can also parry apprehend if you're looking for it, and parry also beats two of the followups (headbutt and decimate) and loses to grab and waitparry stun also lasts much longer than you'd expect, you'll have plenty of time to dash in and fuck him up after especially if you're a faster character
>>538899627yeah vi isnt s tier shes just popular because shes funnot to glaze sonicfox but just look at who hes playing then you'll see who is top tier, right now hes on jinx and ekko
Anyone play duos with a friendIt's actually so kino when you're nailing combo extensions shit feels goodYou even have a lot of agency over the pushblocks and bursts so the mental stack is way chiller I think some of the strive players here could really benefit from it.Most well designed aspect of the game for sureIt's also good for me because I've only really learned how to play Vi so I can otp in peace
How good is an Illaoi/Darius bleed chip setup with her tentacle super?
ekko is not going to be good when people figure the game outtop players are only playing him right now because he's cool
>>538899627for the last time, sonicfox is playing illaoi, this bitch is double S tier
>>538902392really gotta try that shit, it looks super fun
>>538899627>>538902559
>>538902546idk how it is bc nobody is playing that bitch but in AL1 it was crazy
This is the first dlc character. How will be play? I'm not a LOL player.
>>538904283Nobody knows because nobody plays like their in-game counterpart.
>>538904283puppet character with his shadow clones, probablyretardedly high damage but slightly lower health, basically the akuma of the game i'm sure just with way more degenerate mix
>>538904283I think based on how they select characters some picks I think will be sooner>Jhin>kindred>katarina>kha'zix>taliyahzed is a good choice too for the way they pick
>>538900106>followed by Jinx.??What, how
I need my wife orianna in the game :(
>>538905656theres a lot of great choices and we got braum illaoi blitzcrank and teemo in the first 10 characters LMAO
>>538905579He was leaked a couple months before, and the leak had Vi, Blitz and Teemo
>>538904283Considering they have qualms about just stealing shit from DNF Duel, Ghostblade>Lots of long range pokes and projectiles>Some of the said moves allow him to practically handshake tag with himself
>>538905775>blitzcrank and teemostop pretending these aren't obvious picks with high appealblitz is the most iconic grappler in league, absolute no brainer, and teemo is one of the biggest faces in the game
>>538905775so fucking boringno ori,syndra or even hweiI couldn't care less about blitz,teemo yasuo,jinx and all that shit
>>538905889yeah i was clowning on blitz before but they actually implemented him well only his voice is awfulillaoi and braum are the biggest misses though especially illaoi
>>538905837They have NO qualms*
>>538905945>wah wah i want my midlane mains wahkys
>>538906013Illaoi would be a cool curveball if she wasn't the dev's pet in LoL too, shit gets way worse if you know about LoL history and devsI'm like 90% sure she's in because of that sack of shit forcing his totally cool and unique waifu in
>>538906146>wah wah I want my braindead mainstream champs wahI hope you live a long life so you can suffer more
How does Sajam have 2k viewers. He's not even good. I swear white people have an inherent advantage people just enjoy listening to his nasally california faggoty voice
>>538906013blitz' voice is indeed a huge miss, yeahillaoi and braum are in the game because of ruined king, and they were both in that. i'm pretty surprised we haven't seen viego, considering that. he'd have a cool mechanic for stealing your ko'd partner's assist like baby in dbfz
>>538905837>handshake tag with himselfSo you're saying if you go freestyle Zed you can sideswap 4 separate times in a sandwich>>538905945magecucks OUT of this game
>>538905945>Wow I want unique things where are my unique things>Said the nigger while posting about a generic seamonkey looking niggerYou're a second gen immigrant in NA, aren't you
>>538905579Katarina is almost guaranteed. She isn't in the base game because they fucked up. They used her to test new ideas, so she ended up being an amalgamation of every character, so they choose to reworl her from scratch.
>>538906238i want rell and ezreal lil nigga because i main botlane80% of league chars would be a great fit its useless to rosterfag
>>538906146the queen of midlane is already in, no need for more
>>538894707>music modsBuddy literally turn on spotifyDumbfuck
>>538906312>So you're saying if you go freestyle Zed you can sideswap 4 separate times in a sandwichNo the ghost disappears after you swap to himIt's kind of funny how bullshit and annoying he is on paper but was relatively honest in DNF Duel
i dont really care for tag fighters as a whole but i'm actually really glad this game is one, purely because every new champ they add is a potential new ally for darius, rather than just "great now i have to deal with this bullshit"
>>538906361Forgot pic
>>538906521Didn't they go out of their way to say "no we cut Kata out completely, she's not getting in any time soon"
>>538906461Tag fighter just works for this game yeahPeople can winge about it but for the League IP where its all about having a wacky team of characters and clusterfuck moments where you have no idea whats going on on the screen it's just perfect.Plus the duo queue mode so they fish for the e-dating market league is so full of
>>538906521>>538906361Eh idk man.With Zed coming next, what is Kat even going to offer that Zed can't?Zed does the blinks better than she does, he does the spin attacks better than she does, his projectile is even better than hers.They're even the same colour scheme too. I reckon it was between her and Zed and they went with Zed
>>538906897Anon I am a Qiyanafag too but why are you just straight up fucking avatarfagging
>>538907065She's SAVE 2xko iiwis
How do you counter breaks
So...how is it, then? Honestly.
>>538907227every fighting game is fun in the first 50-100 hours
How fast are throws in this game
>>538907227Its good but none of my favorite champions are in the game.
>>538907174know that it's coming and then block it>>538907227pretty damn fun
>>538907227Good game soloThe best fighting game with friends and it isnt close>>538907174Press backwards
Riot please just add Gwen to this game and make her ok, she has gotten 1 stupid fucking rework nobody wanted followed by 8 nerfs in a row in the main game and has become unplayable.
>>538906897it really depends on how long the game lasts, but ultimately some characters will inevitably end up having similar playstyles. im praying every single day for garen even though he'd be similar to darius i think he could still be sick and no im not biased(honestly i'm shocked they went with zed and not akali)>>538907065>why are you posting league characters in a thread for the league gamebreh
>>538899627>setplay vomit character>too honest
Vi would be cool if they gave her GAME ACCURATE GAUNTLETSTHOSE TINY GLOVES DO NOT EXUDE THE POWER THE REAL ONES DO
what happened to alistar and annie? they used to be the faces of league back when it was a good game
>>538907864>she has gotten 1 stupid fucking rework nobody wanted followed by 8 nerfs in a row in the main game and has become unplayable.She's that bad? What was the rework even about, I haven't played LoLe for a while
>>538907935Akali can be pretty different though she's got like 4 different weapons and she's more about jumping around than blinksKat and Zed are like legitimately nearly the same character in terms of what you could put in a fighting game>Blink to something you put on the ground>Slap them>Do a spin attack>Blink away>throw a spinning piece of metal at them
>>538908150she's based off the arcane design sorry little chudeverything you love will always be subsumed by the slop version of it
Did we reeeeally need not-X-factor
>>538908396what are you talking about
>>538908462fury is totally not x-factor
>>538908289Riot didn't design her as a scaling champion at first but she was on the same hyperscaling curve as Kayle which riot (specifically Phreak) doesn't really like for melee champions, so they massively buffed her early game and nerfed her late game by a lot, then they nefed her early game 8 times in a row and now she has pretty much awful early game and awful late game, I was going to say she is kinda ok mid game but Riot said she should have a power spike at 3 items or at lvl 6 so they nerfed that 2 patches ago.She is currently sitting as one of the lowest win rate champions in the game (the lowest if you remove champions off their main role) and Riot statement is that looking at the data Gwen players that main her have such an insane win rate that an overall winrate of 40-45% is actually good leading to amazing and that every single Gwen player loves the changes (literally nobody does)Pretty much they are ignoring player sentiment and relying purely on their data and how they interpret it.
>>538908957>>538908289>I was going to say she is kinda ok mid game but Riot said she SHOULDN'T have a power spike at 3 items or at lvl 6 so they nerfed that 2 patches ago.
>>538908957200 million hours of experience at work...
My wife is never making it but i hope yours does.https://2xko.riotgames.com/en-us/beta/invite#code=15bbcfa3-ca03-4c6a-9782-ee8737ecab41
>>538909130Wut, isn't Sivir very popular
How the heck do you actually build steam with Blitz considering you don't get to charge normally and his 6S2 and jS2 suck ass, just use your super 1 at every possible interaction?
>>538910780Wrecking ball or lariat but no one uses those moves. They probably need to be buffed.
This game would've been good if it came out 5 years ago
What's the approximate release timeline for the next two characters anyways
>>538911713janurary 2027 and july 2028 respectively
>>538911150>They probably need to be buffed.Nah the rest need to be nerfed, there's literally never a case where you would choose anything but the j.s1 on an air combo for example. It does the same or even better damage than even the cmd grab but can land from half a screen away reliably while letting you set shit with how long it isI guess the occasional wrecking ball can be used as an air stall???
i go all out against all the losers with friends
Maybe it's a niche complaint but I don't like how the camera doesn't close in on the point characters at the edge of a screen because another character was on the other end but is also non interactable at that point. I get it when the assist is still active or can be tagged into but the camera gimmick still goes on when it's uninterractable by both players so you got most of the screen being completely useless and empty and everything happens on the left or right corner
i just got my invite, ladswho should I play?
>>538913370Point - ViAssist - Blitzcrank
is the large pacific islander girl any good?
>>538902392Duos are amazing but it's only good for casual play. Too much of the game relies on instant 50/50s with assist, you would have to practice with your friend like esports athletes to time those consistently. I honestly wish they took out solo mode.
>>538913976OP
>>538913976If you make them block anything you can call an assist before the tentacle set special and they to guess multiple times.
how good is big shield meatball man
>>538917169bad
What should I identify as if I want to land sponsors for this game?
>get in>need to install vanguardfuck I forgot about that. last time I installed this thing my computer had its first blue screen in years
>>538917603all of the above and make up a few more
>>538917603a g4m3r
wow this game is dead
God I hate how unresponsive this game sometimes is>Do fishbones>Game can straight up ignore your input to give you the zap gun even if you haven't buffered the motion, everThere's genuinely full two seconds of total duration, with like 85% of it being recovery on basic M buttons and generic non set-up specials>Game is allergic to whiffing so much none of the air moves can even recover in the air which is extremely anti mvc and the little who do legit need superjump height to be able to technically recover in the air which is worthless>Long pause after a character dies and the next one is allowed in even though there's literally a separate cutscene dedicated to this>Fastest move on most characters are 8 fucking frames to start-up, 4 full fucking frames slower than the average 2D fighter which is ignoring the recovery part, meaning the average move speed is closer to 11f startup>Game can't be bothered to save your char select for faster match starts>Stupid high duration lv3 supers in a long combo game already
I just hate how slow the startups on some specials are.
>>538904283>How will be play?Like V-Ism Rolento with a teleport
Anyone NA want to duo? Please know your basic combos and have discord.
>>538924469I won't discord with you. We will be as uncoordinated as possible and only discuss things in the thread.
. . .
excuse me riot but it's pronounced vee not v-eye
>>538926617It's actually pronounced Vi, hence why they use those two letters to write the name. If it was pronounced Vee or Veye, they would have used those letters instead. This is not a hard concept to grasp.
Its pronounced 'vih'
>>538929621>>538929634No no it's vee after the board we have on this website
>>538904283Glass cannon character who can use a neutral/combo only special to leave a shadow that mirrors his moves for half damage, then spend the shadow before it expires to teleport to it. His level 3 is a frame one invincible teleport behind you and strike combo starter that causes you to take 30% of all damage you took during the combo once it ends.
vau
They're initials, its "vee eye" why do you think its tattooed under her EYE???
It's VI as in the roman numerals because she's the sixth kid of her parents and was actually the sixth character to be designed but wasn't added till much later
>>538929785she's gay
So uuuuuuuuhWhat the fuck is the purpose of Jinx's first super - the fireworks
>>538929913She was actually the sixth clone with Jinx being the ninth clone (IX) until Arcane retconned that.
>>538930017It's a classic kusoge super that fucks the camera so the opponent can't see which side you are on as they land, giving you a mix-up based entirely on the game camera being dogshit.
The real reason is because Riot thought they were being cool by not elaborating on what her name actually meant in 2013. Her voice lines in League even have her joking about all the different things Vi stands for. Then Arcane made her serious and it's just a shortening of her name.
>>538930017It's okay if you combo the rising gunshot carry into it. Not great, but not terrible.
For me? It's the redhead pirate in the bar level.
Doesn't look like Riot is going to be supporting this game. Didn't make a very big splash.
>>538930017i just got my ass whooped by an ekko comboing into that jinx super, so that duos pretty good
>>538930017It does a shit load of damageI've seen fireworks into blitz air super which grounds them after
Add me for duo2XKO Will Fail#9CHAR
>>538873279many thanks sir i will practice this
>reddit front page thread praising the lobbyyeah it's over, you guys better take care of this thread because if it dies you will have zero places to discuss 2xko with actual human beings
>>538904283>short-ish range projectile (shuriken)>short range Light Chaoscalibur>shadow clone that can repeat the above specials>Death Mark superno-brainerthen they might add more shit like combo fodder specials or some kind of divekick
>>538907330this game is definitely an exception
>>538933020>Death Mark superHow would that one even work
>>538907864noplease never add my wife Gwen so I never have to actually play this shiti think the chances she never gets in are good, she is cute and riot is openly anti-beauty
>>538933370You put the mark on the guy and place a shadow behind him. You are usually limited to 1 shadow but the super bypasses that limit. They could even do a separate bar to simulate his energy shenanigans and how hitting enemies with it recover energy
>>538908957Riot straight up hates Gwen because she isn't a dyke, ugly, a nigger or a trannyThe fact she even came out must have been the work of some rogue agent or some shit
>>538933902Didn't they recently release a cutie nerdy redhead and a sexy monk
>>538933991>safehorny lgbt shit
>>538934358Retarded Gwensissy. Go back to crying that your favorite champion isn't S-tier anymore while us GODS continue winning on dogshit champions because we like them.
>>538934681I'm a GwenGOD, I win to spite this freak homo company
I'm the LilyPichu of Ahri Duo Queues...
>Just randomly using super 2 with Blitz as if I'm StormHehehehehe
sorry guys but i give this game 6 months
>>538934358maybe riots designs arent so bad
Would you still like me if I played autocombo Darius as your duoqueue partner................
>>538936372how do you do duo queue anyway? i wanna shoot the shit with a rando and drop combos
>>538936557is it even possible? i keep seeing cabinets with 2v1 so probably not lol i dont think ive seen a single real 2v2 being played
>Finally leave training mode after 2 days>Head into matches>Beat some scrubs>Leave lobby and join new one>Immediately play a braum/jinx who just rushes the screen completely armoured and command grabs me every time I'm in the cornerOk now I have to learn neutral jesus fucking christ how do I deal with this massive shield and armor??
>>538936930Grab them?????
>>538936930Grab them!
You ARE optimizing your combos aren't you?
>>538937675
>>538937675No, I'm doing LMH and winning by 2 touches anyway because there's no need to do more damage
>>538937675NoI've been dropping the simplest ones instead
>>538937831
>>538938060
>>538937675I haven't done anything more complex than LMH+random special ender. Commands in this game feel far too cancerous for me to waste my time learning combos, even if they are easy. I just win through neutral, reads and what not.
>>538938358Pussy.
>>538938434i won't be playing this heap of dung in two weeks. neither will 70% of the playerbase.also gwen's pussy
I don't know about this ''closed beta until release'' choicefeels like it's just going to kill any hype
>>538939036It's really stupid because they're also doing giant invite waves daily now. So what was the point?
Kill yourself maelis
>>538939083my thoughts exactly
>>538939036New characters bring hype and this has always been the case, same thing just happened in deadlock.
>>538939036Any actual fighting game beginners looking to try the official launch as their first fighter will be massively discouraged because a huge chunk of the playerbase will already be veterans. It's such a bad decision to launch a fighter this way.
they need to add baiken as a guest character, she fits aesthetically cause ioniaBRAAAAAAAAAAAAP
Wait does burst have fucking startup that's not invul
>More than half of Braum's model doesn't have a hurtboxGood design
>>538917169he's good, undervalued as fuck
>sit in completely full lobby>nobody is looking for a game but me>can't play>strive tower flashbacksjust give us a proper queue system dawg fuck this shit
Did we have a tourney other than TNS yet and if so can I get a vod link
How do I blitzcrank in neutral I find it difficult to get in
>>538943368Flyquest, nigga.
>>538943598press m and h instead of l
pink yasuo reminded me briefly of dan hibiki
one thing to remember is that rolls are very, VERY throwable, and people like to try rolling out of the corner. it's VERY easy to throw people back into it
>>538947879Yeah and then you get no oki because backthrows don't give a hard knockdown, so your reward is shit unless you happen to be one of the chars that gets full combos from their throws.
>>538948349sure, but it's better to keep the corner than just let em leave
>darius can do round start 1099 damage with juggernautwhoa
>>538949283hes so cool and strong
today's tuko momentyes i know my combos are weenie as fuck, i just thought the way this ended was funny. god i love darius. god im so happy this game is so fun
>>538949283this one?>>538882359
>>538952071yes what the fuck?
Game needs more female yordles desu.
>darius level 3 hits 6 times: 5 hits to build up his passive fully and then his ultidk how i never noticed this until now. his representation in this game is so insanely perfect, i love him so much
>>538954037When is his Noxus Vice skin coming?
>>538954426we've seen his lifeguard outfit and god king, but that'd be cool. it's a shame that skinline flopped in league and we never got it there
After playing for a few days, I feel like the game is alright for what it is but Its reputation is forever destroyed due to the long development. I get that developing a game can be tricky but there's nothing here that indicates 10 years of time spent. Must've spent a large amount of it just sitting in small conference rooms, playing MvC for "inspiration". Probably maintanence mode within 2 years if they can't pump out atleast 6-7 characters per year.
>>538955741pumping out characters seems like a double edged sword desu, each new character they release seems to come out totally busted and need to be toned down, so if that's what happens it's gonna become a really annoying cycle of fotm picks and power creepbut that having been said, yeah absolutely right. i find the game really fun personally but would i if my fav league character wasn't in it? probably not AS fun but still better than what i've been playing i guess
>>538955741I think it’s fun but yeah there’s nothing that indicates such a long development time and the small rooster isnt really acceptable for a tag team fighter desu. Maybe they might release more characters post beta when the game actually launches but like>No demacian champs>No shadow isles champs>No bandle city champs>No targonian champs>No shuriman champs>No void champsWhere the fuck is Lee Sin? Poppy? Thresh? Diana? Xerath? Kha’Zix? Seems kind of stupid to have so many regions missing from the base game as representation. I know theyre probably gonna keep em in their back pocket to keep the game alive but that’s not really acceptable after such a long development period.
>>538956452one thing i found concerning is that in an interview they said they don't really care about regional representationi really hope this doesn't become fucking Super Ionia vs. Zaun featuring Darius
>>538956452Ixtal forgotten again...
>>538956530>they don't really care about regional representationExtremely disheartening to hear. They could very easily have at least a duo from every region before they start spamming pilties and zaunites…>featuring DariusI’d like to believe they’ll at least add Draven or Vlad surely, they seem like perfect fits for this kind of thing. Hell even Rell could work.>>538956657I didn’t forget it but I didn’t know how to spell it off the top of my head and I didn’t wanna embarrass myself….Also Qiyana’s 3D ass would be too OP for a game like this. It’d make anyone playing cum instantly
>>538956849the dev team has also said "they love league for its incredibly wide variety of characters" so i'm really hoping that we get at least a little of everything, but yeah, if they drop like, zed->akali->irelia or some shit i'm going to be really annoyed
>>538956987We just gotta pray. Personally I’m hoping for any of the following to make an appearance at some point>Gwen>Twisted Fate>Jax>KatarinaI can’t just keep playing juggernaught Ekko forever man…
>>538956530I'm also concerned they'll only go for safe and obvious picks. Sure, get your Zed, Lee sin, Sett and whatever out but I hope they'll throw in some shit like Fiddlesticks, Vex, Azir, and Kindred. With enough creativity you can make most champs work in a fightan. The odd outliers are the few shits like Yuumi and Kog'Maw due to their character designs and Seraphine/Sona due to their instruments.>>538956849All we can do is pray Qiqivro but she's probably in the bottom of the barrel...
>>538957660qiqi being non white + female gives her a pretty big leg up on a large portion of the cast
>>538957660She’s more likely to appear than other female characters imo so there’s at least that. You mentioned Kindred which I would absolutely love (because she’s one of the hottest champs and because kindred is just cool full stop) but I feel like bow characters are hard to make work in a fun way? They got Ahri to sorta work so maybe it’s possible.
>>538932187Have fun, it took me like an hour and a half then I slept on it and did it in 3 tries
Okay I got into the beta, but im now having that feeling I get whenever I try to get back into fighting games where I think "Do I really want to sink all this time into trying to get good at this game?" until I inevitably put it off long enough that I decide to never play. I feel like such an old man now.
>>538873279Surely it can be extended with some sort of assist or a tag for a second wall bounce, no?
>>538958440You can probably do a level 3 after the level 1, if you do the rekka ender there it whiffs
>>538958290>but I feel like bow characters are hard to make work in a fun waythere's metera in gbvs and the bow bitch from samsho to take inspiration from>>538958353basic combos and shit are pretty easy, just play a few rounds and don't take it too seriously
>>538958290Lamb could always have Wolf for her melee attacks as he floats around her like Giovanna's wolf in Strive, mix in some some hoof kicks and our gal could work perfectly. Her bow would just be a skill like Jinx's rocket and minigun but yeah she'd probably be annoying to some degree due to it.
>"Launch cast is really small so we gotta make it count guys!" - Riot>40% big bodies, one of which is a DEI pick that nobody gives a fuck about>meme yordle mascot whose entire gimmick is already covered by jinx>arcane shilling but forgot about jayce and warwickI hate this gay Earth
>>538959024Guess so. It’d be cool if they could find a way to work in her 3-hit E move; maybe make it so your heavy sends out wolf and if you’ve attacked them with the bow skill enough his munch does extra damage. I’d pick her up for sure if they made her even if I’d likely be bad at her
>>538959317Warwick only appeared in Season 2, which was utter dogshit to the point that even normies have caught on now so there's no point in shilling him. Though who knows how long their character making process is, would be really funny if they started shilling Season 2 chars and skins a year from now.Honestly, the thing I'm most miffed about regarding the roster is not having Riven. All arguments about popularity and design aside, her kit was intentionally designed after fighting games so not having her in the launch roster of the League fighter just feels wrong.
>numbers are only slightly better than a 2-year-old gamethe importance of a launch roster
>>538960743yeah man sf6 also has these numbers when there are no jappas, guess what the genre is dead in the west
>>538960918>guess what the genre is dead in the westUuuhh... uhm... RTS?
>>538960918>sf6 also has these numbers when there are no jappasyou're delusional>guess what the genre is dead in the westthis game is supposed to be the game that revitalized mainstream interest in the genre
>>538959317Braum and Illaoi are such wasted picks for the starting cast it’s actually crazy. Who the fuck actually wants to play as either of them especially when the art style for 2xko is NOT doing them any favours
>>538961225Braum and Illaoi are glaringly terrible picks for sure. They have neat gimmicks though, so I can't be too mad at it. But including Darius Illaoi Braum Blitz in the starting roster when there's only 10 characters is baffling.
I've played a few games now and I noticed I rarely get an Ahri mirror, is she considered bad or something? also it's a beta and it hasn't been advertised much as far as I know, we'll see when the game launches how it does
>>538961225I can sort of understand Braum as the sort of goofy wholesome big chungus pick that appeals to redditors even though I personally despise the archetype, but then they revealed Blitzcrank, making Braum's inclusion more baffling. Illaoi is an obvious DEI pick that was made back when DEI was still dominant in the cultural zeitgeist, absolutely a wasted slot, but makes sense when viewed through that lense.
>>538961343>They have neat gimmicks though, so I can't be too mad at itYou could give those gimmicks to several other league characters who would have been better picks, neither character is strongly tied to their gimmick in the same way as for example Ekko is.
>>538961461her bnb is too hardsemi charges and quick dash after it
>>538961225Wasn't Illaoi created for this game? How the fuck you gonna make a league fighting game and out of the 100+ champs you can choose in your limited base roster you make a Giganigga Dyke OC? Like her kit is fine, the tentacle gimmick is fine, but the design is just awful and feels like DEI Marisa. At least Marisa was kind of cool.
>>538961461>also it's a beta and it hasn't been advertised much as far as I knowRiot grew tired of funding this game for 10 years and is sending it out to die so they can stop caring about it entirely. Riot has grown into gigantic jews these past years but they're not at fault for losing hope in this game.
>>538961461you have no idea how big the beta for valorant was, shut up cunt
This is the most stick unfriendly game I have ever played. I think it's not for me. Also this game reminded me why I never really gravitated towards tag games. I guess I won't bother trying tokon either.
game feels better than I expected but what the fuck were they thinking with 2 special move buttons. Motions are less complicated than this shit.
>>538961737>Wasn't Illaoi created for this game?No. In league, literally everyone hates her and nobody plays her
>>538960743Bro, all the pros are participating in a tournament this weekend.
Starting roster should have been oldfag central>BLITZ>KYLE>TEEMO>KATARINA>SHACO STOP FEEDING HOLY FUCK>TF
>>538964705I forgot TF even existed
they need to nerf ekkos 5B and fireball in air holy shit neutral against him is impossible
>play in the first empty lobby the game puts you in>40 ms>get transferred to the popular lobby in the middle of the set>60 ms with the same dudenice server based netcode
i just found out your credits cap at 10kif you have 10k, spend them asap
>>538967263lmao they learnt from league, once I bought all champions I started saving so much IP I was able to buy any new champions easily and to this day where I barely play 20-30 games a year just to hang out with friends I still have like 500k BE
>3 fucking wikis
>>538817052this is cope, people use text chat in fightcade just fine.The reason they're not talking in 2XKO is because 1) you can't actually talk in game, with the people you're playing with (even between rounds or games)2) the people you can talk to are just some random collection of people, why would you talk to themI don't even buy the argument that it's for cosmetics, valorant has plenty of non-skin cosmetics despite being a normal game where you communicate through text chat and play games through menus rather than this habbo hotel bullshit. I think it's just fighting game dev retardation
the lobbies are really smallit's just a small collection of people you won't ever see againwhereas permanent lobbies can have communities grow in them
>>538968074Just let the communities grow on social media there is no need for a game avenue. That's why MMORPGs just streamlined everything from trade to looking for groups. Nobody actually socializes in MMORPGs
>>538968361the fact that you need to beg in discords to do raids in ff14 killed my whole interest in the game after 700 hours
>>538968515I honestly just do solo challenges/grinds and the story, I don't bother with raid content, people get weird around that content.
Sajam is our strongest soldier. Worth every penny.
>>538968361nah, that's a game design issue, not necessarily the playerbase issuethe most direct comparison is sf6's lobbiesthere are regional server and channels that you can choose to go intoand sf6's NA-001 really did end up having noteable names, villains, cliques, etcpeople would hang around to chit chat, run tournaments, show off fashion, erpbut in 2xko, lobbies are just temporary unnamed instancesno way you can build a community around that
>>538969174Wait I just completely forgot dix had lobbies
I just played Tekken 7, SFV and DBFZ in the past, I really want to get back into fighting games. Do you think 2xko can save the FGC? It always felt like most fighting games are dead. I'm also interested in this new marvel fg.
>>538969478Nah, the game is fun but is not going to be anything revolutionary.
Im running Darius/Braum but can't decide between using 2x assist or freestyle. Which one do you guys think is better for this comp?
>>538969646But (imo) it looks cool, feels okay and it's accessible(?). Also:>Free to play>Good netcode(?)>Cross play>backed by a big ccp company>FGC Tards will play it>riot, arcane, LoL and Valo fags will try it.
>>538970194>Good netcode(?)was everyone else getting those random lag spikes last night too?
>>538970194I would say, the netcode is pretty good to allow me in the US and a friend in EU to play duos and not feel much delay or rollbacks.The free to play aspect will just make casual people give it a try before trying out any 60 dollar game, but the game itself is not designed in a way to keep casual people engaged due to the difficulty of the game. Unlike SF6 where someone can just pick modern and pick up the basics of neutral in a few hours.Casuals in this game get fucking bodied if they aren't playing duos with someone better.
>>538970517wait, i tried to play with an eu friend,but it's like our regions were locked?we couldn't see each other's invites, or join our private lobbieshow did you play with him?
>>538971975We play league together in NA before he moved to EU so he has an NA account. If you guys still have beta invites left just have one install tunnelbear and create a new account while on a VPN.
I have a couple hundred hours in SF and thousands in League (stopped playing years ago though), and despite of that I can't bring myself to even try to learn this gameSeeing touch of death combos and the general degeneracy that comes with being a tag fighter is like the opposite I'd want from a League fighting game
>>538972449but sweaty.. league is degenerate
>>538968361>Nobody actually socializes in MMORPGsyour experience of mmorpgs is WoW and mmos like itpeople absolutely socialized in games like FF11
>>538972449I would have preferred a degenerate 1v1 air-dasher to be honest.
>>538968361>Nobody actually socializes in MMORPGsWrong
labbing this game is so funthis game is gdlk
>>538968361retarded post
>>538972836Just press the Block button
>>538972670juggernaut says wassup
>>538972983what block button
>>538973043I don't know, just press it!
>>538972175i just tried going to the account creation page with my vpnno go for surfshark, i guesssuch a hasslejust let me play with my eu friends
>>538973137just make your eu friend make the account with an invite
>>538973127There is no block button in this game anon, this is not granblue.
finally bothered to dl the beta and for some reason my stick is completely fucked with this game. inputs randomly register 3+ times and the moment i close the game the problem stops
https://www.twitch.tv/reversalggUFA top 8
>>538973943>assist into air super to cover fullscreenjesus fuck jinx
>>538974716Isn't she low tier? Haha
>>538973943mystic choked it hard
The game becomes incredibly unfun when you fight someone using juggernaut or sidekick.
what triggers combo limits in this game
Maybe this will be useful for someone.Note that i dont know the exact HP values of each character.This is the highest damage combo i was able to achieve with Juggernaut Darius on round start SK1, it does 1177 damage, overkilling every character in the game.Im not sure when they can Break, because you start with 75% Break gauge unless you are a Juggernaut (im not sure how it works for the fuse where you play solo with assist only).Doing lvl1 into lvl3 does 1199 damage (4 out of 6 hits do 0 damage for some reason), but its not really worth to spend additional bar.Doing only one lvl1 does 1005 damage.I will post videos of this combo against Juggernaut next and then post it without the use of Fury.
>>538976219multiple same extenders in a single combo like wall bounce/ground bounce
>>538976652Against a Juggernaut it looks like this, dealing 1076 damage.Lvl 1 into lvl 3 does 1230 damage, which is worth in my opinion because all hits actually do damage, leaving a Juggernaut at basically a pixel of health where anything will kill them.Ill post the damage and videos for the same combo without Fury.
Why is Darius so fking pale? It looks so disgusting.Yasuo too but not as bad.
>>538976652fury is a mistake, you have it roundstart every single time
>>538978816I think it was better as a fuse, giving away easy damage with double down or complex damage with freestyle or 2x assist for that x factor was an understandable trade.
>>538977415why are you black?
what character has the shortest combos? i really dislike using simple inputs so the less presser the betterwas thinking about playing sidekick fuse blitzcrank + someone who makes him more fun (who though?)
30 second combos are cringethis is made for tekkensloppers
This is post nerf Vi... right?
>>538982418darius
Who is the best to pair with echo if i'm running sidekick fusion?
>>538975070She might be but she's probably the strongest and eking out chip outs or random clip kills against low health niggas at the moment
Is it over bros?
>>538983461Honestly there are no bad assists in the game, depends on what part of your gameplan you want to strengthen the most
They should've called double down fuse double hit so using the second super would've been Double Hit Cancel
>>538983797i just want the strongest bullshit assist to win me neutral
>>538983787>evo numbers that lowyes, sf6 is dead
>>538970194>it's accessible(?)It's one of the least accessible fighters in recent years. Extremely long combos with tricky execution, huge amount of mechanical bloat, bad controls, very one-sided offense, very fast and hard to keep track off etc.
>>538985248Well>Jinx has a projectile assist and those are always great in tag games>Blitz is a massively overtuned motherfucker where even if they block it they'll eat shit and if they get hit, you get a combo from anywhere (comes with an anti air variant with good combo uses)I would say those two from a pure nootral assist, but sidekick assist is kinda gimping yourself in the long run. It's mostly for learning characters because you do miss out on some stuff.For example, Braum also has two great assists but one of them becomes the single most useful one if you can get him into his install state, which means you have to tag into him.
>>538986587the combos are only long/tricky if you choose to make them long
>>538986587my experience has been just guys doing the basic combos and maybe extending it with an assist. I think I haven't seen anyone fully utilizing parries or retreating guard yet.Also the controls are easier than other fighting games (except smash) I'm not sure why people that play a shit ton of fighting games are having a hard time.
>>538986976If you aren't doing long combos you are massively gimping yourself and sometimes a tricky combo is the only thing you can do to convert the hit. Since the game is so insanely scrambly and fast, not being able to convert those stray hits into 50% damage just means you aren't playing the game. You can choose not to do combos in any fighting game. You can choose not to use Drive Rush in SF6. You can choose not to use 66L in Rising.
>>538986587The reason shitposters like this are so awful these days is their knowledge goes back about 1.5 years at best
>>538987318With the same resources I'm noticing like maybe a 100-200 damage difference between optimal combos and day 1 bnbs which are almost the same lenght and don't give you that much frame advantage. The meme TOD combos are literally easier than bnbs and are just possible because they have full resources.It's like saying SF6 is hard because some guy that never played a fighting game can't do a ToD off an AA counter hit on command.
>Yasuo has a special that hits the other sideWhy?How?
>>538987318>not being able to convert those stray hits into 50% damage just means you aren't playing the gamesure you would; just not at the top levelkey word is accessibleaccessible doesn't mean being able to do perfect charge, kara stance cancel confirms off of obscure stray hitsaccessible means being able to do any combo into knockdown
>>538987780Full resources, bro, like Fury and thats it?Meter is plentiful in this game and you pretty much never combo into 3 bar super, only 1 bar into 1 bar because the damage is almost identical anyway.Assist is on like 3-6 seconds CD.People in my games already do massive combos and dont get me started on how better players already play the game.The longer the game goes, the less likely a beginner will pick it up, not because hes missing damage or ToDs, but because players will get better and just outmaneuver them and mix them up into oblivion with Blitz/Ekko/Vi/Yasuo resets.
>>538987318brother lmh special super does like 50%
>>538987935nothing personnel, kid
>>538987049>Also the controls are easier than other fighting games (except smash) I'm not sure why people that play a shit ton of fighting games are having a hard time.No they are not. Motions are one thing, but you have games like Rising where you don't need to use motions that have much better controls. 2xKO has too many buttons and button combinations that are very poorly thought out to the point where it's almost impossible to fit all the buttons in a manner where all the buttons needed for combinations are next to one another on stick/hitbox. The button combinations also have overlaps that can easily result in misinputs for beginners in a way that can't happen with motions, the most obvious example being M/H into S1/S2 being extremely common combo route while pressing those together gets you a super. As for more experienced players, the game breaks usual fighting game customs which is very offputting. For example, 1A gives you a 4A instead of 2A, when downbacking gives you your crouching move in almost any other game. Theres also a large number of command normals with 3 input despite 6 being free since there aren't many command normals in the first place. It's all very haphazardly put together and not very well thought out.
>>538988142Yeah and the other guy who actually knows his combos is doing ToDs, do you not see how much that puts you at a disadvantage? Not to mention the oki you get from proper combos that end with setups.
>>538988271>For example, 1A gives you a 4A instead of 2Aare you okay, sis?
>>538985248Darius shoulder charge easy
the game is accessible but no idea why if accessibility was the focus they went with a marvel-esque game.3rd strike combos are super easy on most characters. they shouldve mirrored it and made a neutral focused game like street fighter since neutral is hard to master but easy to get hang of it
just remembered why i hate pseuds more than real newcomers lol
YES YOU NEED TO KNOW HOW TO DO 5 DIFFERENT TODS WITH YOUR ASSIST AND KNOW WHAT TO PARRY AND WHAT TO RETREAT GUARD FOR EVERY MATCH BEFORE EVEN ATTEMPTING TO PLAY YOUR FIRST GAME.>meanwhile people just playing the game either are mashing or using the universal bnb.I'm probably in the intermediate lobbies and people still don't do ToDs.
>>538988750>Responds to a post talking about the A button>Posts a webm about the L buttonRetard. The fact that it's inconsistent between different buttons highlights my point about how poorly thought out the controls are.
>>538989137there's no such thing as an A button
>>538988985Games with easy, short combos are more accessible than games with long, esoteric combos. How is this even a conversation? Games like Xrd or Blazblue also have easy BnBs you can just mash. Never played Mahvel, but I would assume it too has easy basic combos you can learn in 15 minutes.
>>538987318>You can choose not to do combos in any fighting game. You can choose not to use Drive Rush in SF6. You can choose not to use 66L in Rising.funny how every time someone mentions 66L it's still the least offensive thing on the list but people still treat it like it is the most
>>538989356You don't need those combos to start out because the damage difference is small between long and short combos.
this guy's just mad at seeing an actual skill ceilingthat's all
>>538989587hes mad he didnt get an invite
>>538989356There are long hard combos in SF6 (the most accessible fighting game) and yet I don't see everyone telling little timmy he needs to learn the long drive rush combos to play.Are DR combos stronger than medium medium specials? do you get a full DR bar at the beginning of the round?
This fucking retard thinks optimal combos are similar to LMH2H jLMHS2 SuperYou are a shit player, you are playing in shit lobbies, you don't watch tournaments, kysIf you ever play against me and do babby combos, I will kill you in 2 touches, the 2nd touch being a complete unreactable guessKYS
>>538989959you won't do shit you fat faggot
brother you can fucking do 50% with a basic ass combo on every single characteryou fags will bitch and scream about every single game being casualized and then a fighter comes out and you whimper in the corner that you'll NEVER be able to press lmh launcher lmh special and neither can anyone else, it's LITERALLY impossible!!!!! lmao
reply to me directly you cowards
The abundance of charge moves unironically makes this game way more unresponsive holy shit most of these don't even add any depth, just exist as combo fodder
>>538989727>SF6 (the most accessible fighting game)Nani the fuck? Granblue easily has it beat. Hell, I would argue that even DBFZ is more accessible, or at least it was until the last few patches.
3 invites here for anyone that needs themhttps://2xko.riotgames.com/en-us/beta/invite#code=a8de290a-4969-4a71-abb5-86e5402bcdf2
>>538989515It's literally a DR that doesn't cost meter
>>538990348you are literally retarded
>>538990612I hope to never see the green goop after dix
>>538990612why do people hate slime rush? i think it's cool
Who's the next swimsuit girl coming out so I can run full slut team
>>538990612Have you ever seen a single match of Grubble
>>538990781the next confirmed character is Teemo and the rumor is that Zed is short after. Absolutely zero mention of any cute girls afterwards.
>>538988271>Theres also a large number of command normals with 3 input despite 6 being free since there aren't many command normals in the first place.Glad I'm not the only one annoyed by that.
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