*ting ting ting ting ting*Store links:https://store.steampowered.com/app/1030300/Hollow_Knight_Silksonghttps://store.steampowered.com/app/367520/Hollow_KnightInteractive Map:https://mapgenie.io/hollow-knight-silksong/maps/pharloomPrevious Thread>>538689667
how get up
>>538788839you must utilize the jump button
>>538788839I don't remember having any trouble getting up. Can't you ascend on the hanging cages and cliffs?
So, what's up with the wanderer and the lucky dice trinket? Is the TING thing you sometimes get a crit? Does dice improve crit chance? What does crit exactly do?
>>538788839Enter that area from this side.
>>538789636The dice give you a small chance to negate damage, they have nothing to do with the wanderer being able to crit. The hits that sound different are crits. Crits do more damage.
>just found out I missed the first sinnerFuck
>>538788341>100% completion>100% hunter journal>all materials collectibles and mementosI can't believe it's about to be over. Time to finish the game for real vros. It was peak throughout. Except for the enhanced difficulty flea juggle, Seth you can suck my cock.
>>538790194you can miss the fight?
In the first game, Radiance and The Void are old enemies. Did the Pale King know that when he created the Hollow Knight and his ilk out of Void, or was that just a happy(?) coincidence?
>>538790296I think so?Where is she so I can check
I hate these frog bugs so fucking much
>>538790296Nah its optional but not missable>>538790421You need the heretic key, then its northeast of the fast travel spot.
are they gonna do content updates again? I really want a godmaster equivalent, the combat is really fucking fun but I don't feel like immediately playing through the entire game again just to refight stuff
>>538790421In da slab
>>538790743They confirmed they have dlc plans.
>>538790739I find a room where someone is mumbling but I'm not sure where to go after that
>>538791292Stand on the treasure chest and leap into the ceiling hole
>>538790303Probably
Collecting anal beads to buy more stuff.
>>538791331>>538791331ThanksWish I did her earlier cause I steamrolled her
>>538791747>cool boss>gives the WORST silk skill in the gameMan what were they thinking with Rune Rage
Is Blight-whatever an act 3 only area? I can't find it
>>538791970You can get there act 1, its through Sinners Road or Putrefied Ducts
Did anyone gather some cool lines from bosses or enemies?
>>538791970it's anti fun: the area
>>538792363I saw Loam's lines...
How's Pollip Pouch? Is the poison damage worth it?
Who is responsible for act 3Hornet or the snails
is there a counter to the sinner's road worms? I'm just bleeding shards because I can't fight the fat bitch without getting wormed and chipped down
Just beat Widow, phase 3 can tongue my anusThere REALLY needs to be increased shard gain, and yes I have that talisman equipped
>>538792363I have Sherma singing off key, he's not getting in the choir unless he projects more.
>>538792735Its one of the best tools in the game
>>538792735Yes, when I am stuck at some mf, I grab poison talisman and it's getting too easy
>>538792363>>538792518
>>538792735very much so
>>538792963He was scared. The little guy just watched corpses reanimate.
>>538792735pretty good, I haven't tested it much but it doesn't remove damage from the base so it's just additional free damagenow it can range from +50% to +10% or something depending on the type of tool and attack
>>538792954Phase 3 is easy if you arent an easily distracted fool.
>>538793023Also he asked you not to play anymore, because it makes him sad. But someone have to run the show.What I don't understand that some dudes are sing after death. Like that thingy in a Surgical wing near the locked door. Does the soul stuck in a husk? Does it just silk threads tied to a dead husk just repeats what the living bug sang during life?
>Sherma is a man because.....uhhh....>HE JUST IS OK!!!!What causes this retardation
>>538793159>+50% to +10% or something depending on the type of tool and attackThis is my thoughts exactly. I found something one singular big boom benefits less from poison, than a lot of small jabs.
>>538793504Team Cherry wrote "him" once 6 years ago and that's all the proof you're gonna get and need.
>>538793504>An optimistic pilgrim on a spiritual journey. Sherma’s path may often cross with Hornet’s own, but his lack of combat and acrobatic prowess can land him in desperate need of aid.https://www.teamcherry.com.au/hk-physical-late-anniversary-celebration-silksong-mini-update/
>play the slab after being captured>hornet's doing the naruto run without her cloakWhy the fuck is she a weeb
>>538793504>>Sherma is a manNo one said that. Also don't waste your time hanging out in the places where people discuss these retarded topics.
>>538793504doesn't it literally say in the quest to find him that HE is lost
>multibinder doesn't remove the worms and heal halfwhat's the point then? useless little shit, don't make me charge twice if it doesn't work as 2 weaker heals
>>538794235Heal for 2, then explode with defensive bell.
>>538778450If you help him out a bit, he'll be thankful. Despite how futile his efforts seem to be.
>>538792952Avoid them as best you can, they're sleeping
Mount fay was so fucking fun bros
>>538794497what does this mean?
>>538793504Search for traces of the pilgrim, Sherma, and track his location.
>>538794518every time i come to these threads there is some new NPC i would have never encountered despite combing through everything
>>538790303I think he was more concerned about the fact that the void is a perfect way to trap shit. Hence why he needed the Hollow Knight to be just that, empty.
>>538793504>Uses male pronouns in every reference to him.>IT'S A FEMALE
>>538793504why do you want this cute shota bug boy to be a girl so bad?
>>538796278Otherwise he has to admit he's gay
just defeated the mist boss, what woulda happened had I not hit the quicktime parry?
So what's up with the fat prisoner in The Slab who you can goad out with song? No quest, no story relevance, nothing important to say. I don't get it.Also the Mask Maker on Fay, this guy at least gets a unique delivery, but for virtually no reward.
didn't play this game but are there ants/insects trying to stir up a commie revolution in the game or something like that? heard that it's entirely about class struggle/capitalism
Collusion needs to stop doing double damage, it's bullshit.
>>538796981no
I realize now that silksong feels much more unfair than hk because there's no iframe move
I kinda wish there was a knight vs hornet rematch nowShe'd destroy him
>>538797428>destroy the nigga who became a god and fused with the voidshe couldn't even defeat pre-godhood knight, much less post
>>538793504>I jacked off to Sherma so he cant be a cute boy!Just accept that you're bi.>>538796981No, the game's class commentary is in the Underworks and its more critical of a theocratic autocracy.
cute Sherma in the baths
>>538797846If she had the everbloom I could see her doing some hax, that shit could neutralize the shadelord powers.
>>538796278Some people will only enjoy a character if they're a girl. Yeah it's crazy.
>>538797224>>538797406way too many things in this game fucks you over and it seems like they want you to play a no hit run for everything
>>538797406There is
>>538793504true and real
>>538796009Sounds like you didn't comb though everything then. He's here if you want to see him.
>>538796871>Also the Mask Maker on Fay, this guy at least gets a unique delivery, but for virtually no reward.There was a similar NPC in the first game in Deepnest, though he wasn't quite as hard to get to.
>spa guy slowly rises instead of already peepingABOSULTE ERECTIMA! alas, I hit him on the first try. will he let me bathe again?
Hornet?More like Whorenet
>>538796871Mask Maker apparently has assloads of unique dialogue but fuck me I'm not going back there a third time
It's fun to go beast mod sometimes, when the situation allows. Shame it's so finnicky
>>538799507If you were hundreds of years old you would be fucking a lot too, be real.
>>538799507The fragility of male gamers....
exploring bilewater for the first time, any tips?
>>538799648I'm not fucking at all so no
>>538799329He will let you bathe for free now
boy i sure do love paying for every single fucking bench
>>538799809That's just ridiculous, but let's not pretend that the girls don't do their fair share of insane projecting when it comes to fiction. I've seen the fujos...
did you know you can use the needolin to call Eira? very cute
>>538788341I did everything. Now it's just the speedrun, steel soul, and secret ending achievement. Which I'm almost certain I know how to get.
>>538798943so what does he do?does he stop the hazards from killing you?
>sprint buttoncool
>>538800142I kinda wish you could hit the hanging bells in the station to summon him too, that's how I expected it to work before launch.
>>538799935not really
>like 10 attempts on Skibidi>first tried Crust BusterAh well bros the quality can't be high all the time
Act 3 spoilers aheadIf people are saying it's the end of the world and everythingWhy don't they just leave pharloom instead of bitching
>>538799935Abandon all hope
>>538799935Leave bilewater
>>538801093And go where
>>538799809Why does it say gexHornet just says she had partners, she never says their gender
>>538801374hallownestit's free real estate
>Plant heart is easy to get>Crust heart>Mantis heart is easy to get>Ant heart is the biggest ballbreaking boss in the entire fucking game, with the boss having around 1500 health>Ant heart is the one the sails recommend you doing firstWhat were they THINKING
>>538801437I assume sex is censored or supresseed on the site as a search term, either that or its a brainrotted zoomer
>>538801531Ant boss is only a bit more cancer than the shrine guariden
Mah
>>538801730Seth is a dope fight though
>>538799935Yeah, find the secret bench or you'll have to run through the whole map again
>>538801531What mantis heart
>>538802059Go right of craw lake
>>538802117Oh right, I heard about that place, but is there a mantis heart? The quest didn't ask for it.
>>538802453The snails are surprised it exists, its basically a freebie hidden heart that seems to exist if you get filtered by one of the main three fights. It turns into a memento if you have the other 3.
wtf is with the spider constructs? farming rosaries, sometimes I can do 3 laps chilling and sometimes they appear 2 or 3 times when I'm fightingis it just random chance?
>>538802583Oh, it's a shame I literally just did that quest and now they've left
>>538802658There is a way to stop them from spawning explore the silk covered room above the high halls fast save.
How was Sister Splinter debuffed? I watched a day one VoD and it's the exact same fight, down to the adds doing two-heath-damage.
>>538800846>>538801232>>538801295>>538801870Honestly, everything went better than expected. This worked well.
>>538804131Maybe they changed her hitbox or something. I'm starting a second playthrough for the cursed ending so I'm curious to experiment a bit on her and Moorwing.
SHERMA WHY ARE YOU IN WHITEWARD??? SHERMA?? SHERMAAAAAA!!!!!!???!
>>538800142Considering the stations open via music, I feel you should be able to open them for free with the needolin.
Thank god Groat is horribly weak to boomerangs
>>538800268He evokes pity in you.
>>538794518Horsebug. Love him already.
>>538804280>cute little guy wanders into BloodborneRushed my ass there to save him
>>538801531Serves you right for trusting a snail.
>>538804365Play the needolin for emotional damage
>>538804269>Maybe they changed her hitbox or something.Thank.
>>538804269you can access auto-saves by clicking on that icon to the side of the trash can when loading a file, you can go back to any major point in that save file like getting powerups and entering acts so you don't need to start all overbut I don't know what happens to your complete save and when you sit on a bench
>>538804131is the update out yet?
Hello friends
>>538805219>but I don't know what happens to your complete saveI had to use an autosave before 'cause my file got corrupted (>>538622197). When using it, it tells you your main save will be wiped or something.
are these staffbugs the biggest bad guys in the game? unlike the others, they don't seem to be stringed up, and while idle they're shown to sing to the controlled ones. doesn't this make them the ones perpetuating the bad stuff, whatever it is
man, his ragged voice makes me feel so bad, please tell me there's a way to help him
What the fuck was silk's plan, bringing hornet over from hallownest
>>538806510>please tell me there's a way to help himThere's a treadmill on the right. You can run on it, and even get paid. I think technically this counts as helping him.This'll be his response if you do: >>538794518
>>538805228There was a two gig patch, I assume so.
Mount Fay is the most dogshit area team cherry have made bar none. Actual zero fun cancer.
>>538807621wtf manIt was one of the most fun area in my experience
>>538807621it really wasnt all that bad. much easier than path of pain imo. and when you get the cloak the frost mechanic turns offI can 100% see it being a steel soul run ender though. some of the harpoon sequences off respawning mobs just didnt work sometimes and if you fell it was a guaranteed death
>>538808240>I can 100% see it being a steel soul run ender though.just save quit lmao
Mount Fay is actually a dogshit areaThe upper half is just average platforming and is forgettableThe first half actually has tight checkpoint and the dumb water river where you can get stuck (since the bugs take forever to reform) and if you don't know what you're supposed to do, it sends you all the way backThe area is just half assed. I'm in act 3 now and all the platforming sections are significantly harder AND higher in quality.Mount Fay is just shit. It's part of the reason why act 2 is so fucking shit.
Literally Hitler himself
Kind of shocked they didnt nerf Bell Beast instead of Sister Splinter or Moorwing. You have basically no abilities and it deals 2 damage on every attack, which even Lace doesn't do as the next boss.
>>538808690Act 2 rules though, sounds like you got filtered by hookshoting.>>538806573She wanted a daughter (and she views Hornet and all the Weavers in general as her property)
in an online map, it shows an area above this, but I'm seriously struggling to get through this hole, is this the place?
>>538805228The patch is in beta so if you're on steam you can just right click and select it. It makes the early game economy much better.
>>538809369>hookshooting>filtered in act 2Nigger you have the reading comprehension of a gorrilaAct 3 sections are considerably harder and they are more enjoyable. And the hookshooting didn't go away in act 3, it is way more intense.You're a retarded reddit gorilla nigger. Mount Fay is a dogshit area, the devs even forgot that they have a stage mechanic when they started putting all those checkpoints clumped together on the upper half because that's how undercooked that area is.
>>538809689>Nigger you have the reading comprehension of a gorrila>gorrilalolAnd you said Act 2 is shit you moron, of course I'm telling you that you got filtered. Your post literally talks about how the firsthalf of Mount Fay filtered you.Anyways I 100% the game already and the whole thing is kino. Meanwhile I doubt you even reached the surface.
>>538788341I completed all wishes from the wish boardsI got the bell homeI moved the fleas to the lakeI got all 3 cogheart pieces and did final audienceI got all three melodies and played the song in front of the cage (I didn’t go to the final area, idk if you can go back)And I still haven’t gotten silk and song. Can anyone help?
>>538809801I already reached the surface you retarded nigger. It was a good section and is harder than Mount Fay. Mount Fay upper half is like baby's first attempt at making a platformer.Of course shit eaters like you enjoy it.
>>538809369>and she views Hornet and all the Weavers in general as her property)So was she Hera's mother?
>>538809845I'm pretty sure you have to go to the final area and beat the first boss there.>>538809976If I understand correctly she is either the creator of the Weavers in general or the one who blessed them with silk. I haven't looked up online to check though. So not literally Hera's mother.
>>538809845Did you do Trail of the Master
>>538809845>>538810139Oh yeah its probably needing you to get all the maps and do that quest. There are some very esoteric requirements for silk and song.
Redditors be like "I already 100% the game" while laying down all the esoteric requirements from the game that they read from a guide.You didn't beat the game and you never will.
>>538810139Yes
>>538801531Honestly, I beat the plant boss fast but I hated every second of it. I didn't think games could actually like hurt my wrists this badly but silksong makes it pretty bad.
>>538810258I assume you're talking about me since I'm the only person here who said that, but I did 100% the game though lol. Its not my fault that there is so much misunderstanding about Silk and Song's requirements, I'm just trying to give advice as I understand it. Meanwhile you're here seething about an area that you died in lol.
>>538810347Plant boss wasn't that bad, you just couldn't get greedy with your pogos or you'd eat that massive AOE attack. It probably helps that I used the wall cling tool though, that shit is a lifesaver.
>walks up to green prince>invades his dream>this kills him IRLYeah I'm thinking I'm the bad guy
>>538810539At least he seemed happy in death. Dude was miserable in general.
I'm afraid.
can I have a small hint as to how to get at the pollen heart? I've gotten the other two handily enough but I don't see any way into whatever deeper woods you need to access
>>538810845elevator shaftsuper jump
>>538811017very clever
>>538810539>the crow court sentences Hornet to death >her hunter's journal entry says that they weren't wrong to do soHornet is a mass murderer of the innocent...
>>538810502I never bought it. Though I wish I did after getting up to the surface which was honestly a waste of time other than the final wish. I'm having a hard time justifying 100% the game now that I have most of the endings. I'm missing the cursed one.
>>538810539Green prince is a whiny fucking bitchI'm glad he's dead
Is it worth playing the first one before sliksong?
>>538811606Yeah it makes some aspects of Silksong hit harder, and I think it would be harder to go from Silksong to Hollow Knight due to how quick Hornet's movement options are. That being said you can play them in whatever order you want if you REALLY want to play Silksong first. Both are excellent so you can't go wrong.
>>538811017fucks sake that breakable was easy to miss. I had actually already passed through the shaft while searching the perimeter, getting sloppy
>Avoid triggering the Tyrant in Bone bottom>Get little pilgrim's name>Reach act 2>They left and didn't die>Fight Tyrant>Go check on pilgrim's rest>Nothing, even though sources state the pilgrim should have moved there after act 2 if alive still>No quiet pilgrim taking their spot in bone bottom eitherAm I missing something? I murdered clockwork dancers already, and even before or after that, nothing.Did they just die on the way there because I forgot to do another step?
Ok, the slab is the ONLY place on the map that I haven't gone to because I didn't lose a fight with the first fly I encountered... but I haven't seen one since. WHERE ARE THE FUCKING FLIES??? I fought and killed the one right under Hunter's March
>>538812635Get past sinner's path, and you can find one in bile. That or find one of the keys for the place in a place called putrid ducts (needs double jump).
>>538812697Greymoor also has one.
Hornet-has-no-personality mfs must be illiterate
Gentlemen. I'm getting fucking filtered.
>jude kanone doesn't work>look it up>bugged for keyboardchads>vibratorcucks showing it off on jewtube>videos of it are fucking coolif I only knew the mantle would be so heavy... would have I accepted it? good lord I'm starting to feel like literally hitler from all this rosary bullshit. surely this will be fixed in the next patch?
>>538813583This is actually a warmup for a mandatory section like this later in act 3.
>>538812390not sure where I read it, but one person has claimed they've seen them progress even furtheranother guy on steam forums says: I think I found him in Act 3. Right side of the middle bench in Bilewater.
This checkpoint outside of First Sinner is surprisingly nice, but it not refilling your tools is really annoying.
>>538813942>one time the game gives you a close checkpoint in act 2>it actually is a double runback if you want your ammo filled
Anons whats the enemy missing between the shardillard and he squirm? Also where can I find more Shardillard iveonly found 2, and between crust king khann and the voltvyrm
Why haven't you taken the BEASTMODE pill yet?
How do people get the Wanderer crest so early? I don't see how you're supposed to jump around the big bone door without double jump, but people are always saying you can get it in act 1.
>Dark area that I need to descend in>"I bet there are spikes at the bottom of this long vertical tunnel">80% of the time, as I float carefully down, there isYou are so fucking predictable Team Cherry
>>538814810Big bone door? You use a key on the door above Bone Bottom and then go through the Wormways.
>>538814930have ya reached bile water yet? :^)
>>538814987Yeah there's a double jump tunnel through the roof of the ruined chapel you can go through. Is that what the key in wormways does?
Oh no.
>>538814810>get 500 rosaries by doing a few loops of Mosshome and going to Hunter's March immediately>buy simple key>pogo to the door to Wormways above Bone Bottom>drop down to the chapel with the wanderer crestYou don't need sprint, wall cling, or float to do any of this.
>beated Bilewater area>boss appearedI hope I can purify the water without defeating it first.
It's funny how whenever they want to make the platforming hard they just copy individual jumps from Path of Pain, the way you get into Putrified Ducts is literally the opening move of PoP.
>>538813583Where is this again? I forgot.
>>538815317Far Fields, requires clawline
I just went up the cage at the citadel for the first time, I know there has to be a double jump ability because some places look like they need it, but I haven't found it yet. Was I supposed to have unlocked it before this or does it come after?
>>538815618No, double jump isn't even necessary to finish act 2. It's in the northwestern quadrant of the map.
>>538815783Thanks for confirming, will have to explore more then
>>538815054I don't know what double jump tunnel you're talking about, but the key's how people are getting it in act 1.
I hate The Unraveled's fat-ass hitbox a whole lot.
FUCK YOU SKULL TYRANT! AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
>Update queuedUhhhhhhhh silksong sisters????????
Which of the ruined tool guns is the best?
I beat Sister Splinter and Moorwing pre-nerf.
Is the intended progression to collect all 3 melodies, kill the fake final boss, see the bad ending, and then clean up all the side areas later? Or is it to do all the side content first and be in a position to pick the real ending before ever meeting the final boss?
>>538816519Yeah same, Moorwing was the hard one. I actually kinda enjoyed how easy Splinter was.
>>538816519desu those two specific bosses aren't even that bad. Regarding nerfs, I'd much rather see a general reduction in double contact damage than tweaking specific bosses. You never hear anyone complain about how Cogwork Dancers or Troppio do double contact damage, and that's because they aren't wobbling in place and randomly running into you whenever you try to deal damage. Two mask damage whenever the boss has a Zote Moment is super fucking annoying. That's the real issue. Not whatever is specifically wrong with Moorwing they think theyre fixing.
Is there any special prize for the third round of that knife throwing game the lady bugs offer?
I've beat the last...three bosses, I think, with one mask left. I'm using the broken mask too, though. I feel kinda bad.
finally finished courier's rasher with 1 and 1/3 bar left. double jump does wonders. as for the 3 life quest... Fuck that shit.
blasted steps runback is so much easier and the scuttlefucks don't do 2 fucking damage when you land in them
If you guys think the Bilewater boss runback is awful, wait till you get here
im going to start to tackle the blasted steps and beat last judge, any tips? I really dont have the patience to do these hard areas going in blind anymore.
>>538818427>you are placed directly outside the gauntlet>no toxic water>no boss before you finish the 3 gauntlets>3 gauntlets but in between you can kill some critters to fill silk>individual gauntlets have some harmless critter enemy types that help refill silkIt's not even close
>>538818819Oh there's only three gauntlets? I was assuming 5 or some BS with a boss at the end. I almost got it first try then.
>>538809484you need a new ability from act 3
>>538818807before you start seriously learning the judge fight get good at the runback, it's a real bitchdon't stay near Judge, stay at a medium range so you can read their attacks, and make sure you equip the magma bell, it helps in 2nd/3rd phaseJudge blows up after you beat her, and you have to do the whole fight over if it kills you
>>538813942When I realized that, I decided to return to base principles and just equipped Hunter and went beast mode on her. Cleared her first phase in like 40 seconds of non stop slapping her in the face with my needle. Really fun fight once you get into the flow. It's all about keeping up MAXIMUM AGGRESSION.
>>538818912You're right to assume 5 because act 2 trained you to think that the devs are retarded. Act 3 everything feels challenging without wasting your time. Thanks god that all the fights put you near the arena on failure.
>>538818807you need to pay extreme attention to the tells and back away IMMEDIATELY once you see themwanderer is better than reaper here because it the animation is quicker and allows you to run away faster
>>538818807they removed the extra driznit and the last stretch of the runback just get good at bounce attacks which is made easier with the reaper crest and the run is pretty simple.
>beat the flea juggle with long nail + shamanI didn't win the game did I :^(
I reached the end two days ago and told myself I'd take a break and pick it back up to finish the rest but I lost the motivation to keep playing. I'd rather start a new game and blitz through the whole thing again but there's just so much to repeat that it'd take another 10 hours to get back to where I was in act 3.
>>538818807Use Magma Bell to reduce fire damage
I'm gonna say it, SilkSong is an ugly-looking game compared to Hollow Knight
>>538814693Beast is absolutely awful for platforming.
>>538819576You are legitimately insane
finally beat last judge...
God, the range on witch's heal is SO much shorter than it looks.
>the slabI fucking hate it here
how do i get to the cradle now, i checked the memorium and the high halls but no dice
>>538819909Congrats!>>538820030That whole sequence rules though
>>538820063You need an ability you get in Act 3
>>538820063There is a hole in the ceiling slightly to the right of Cogwork Core's entrance you can swoos right into with the right ability, it takes you back to that vertical section.
>>538820124ye i have that and used it, im heading back there in case im fucking blind
After dying to last judge too many times, I have to say I’m getting sick of this shit. People actually find this fun?
When the fuck can I hit Second Sentinel? When is he vulnerable? He can pull out his parry fucking instantly.
>>538820229Yeah its excellent, its a great final test to see if you can escape the first portion of the game. Have you tried not facetanking shit and watched her animation tells? You shouldn't be hugging her the whole time, and the safest times to get hits in is following her jumps. The Magma Bell even reduces her second phase attacks to 1 mask except for contact damage.
>>538820124>>538820156yeah im fucking blind, i was lining the hornet icon up with the hole on the map assuming it was hidden
>>538818427I beat that place first try just by spamming silk storm
>>538818427>They cut the whole coral area and reduced it to a single towerYeah I'm seething
>>538819361Long nail doesn't work on flea games
>>538820229The fight ain't that bad, it's the fucking runback that is absolute fucking horseshit.>>538820359>excellent2 contact damage because she randomly decided to jump is far from excellent. The only decent fight in Act 1 is Widow.
i'm going to guess all the blade terrain in underworks did double damage before the nerfs, right?
>>538820009I use it with fast bind and dark mirror
>>538814693 Making L2 cost silk when platforming has conditioned me to never use it even when I should.
Nyleth is such a shit boss
Should I come back to Bilewater boss (big frog) after 2nd needle upgrade?
>haha what if we took normal enemies, buffed their hp and just added three standard void attacks that all of them have access to?why even bother? it's shitthe bosses are decent and i don't mind the world changes but normal enemies are simply boring
>>538820803if only there was a way to hit a boss without being to his side, where all his attacks are aimed at...
>>538820501Bro her jumps are massive and you have a dash. The only long jump she does is from the sides towards the center and she has a big arc.
>>538820909I'm more annoyed by the arena sequense before the boss.
>>538820514I think every single environmental damage except basic spikes did 2 damage. Probably the worst design decision of the game, at least when enemies deal 2 damage there is back and forth gameplay where you can build up silk for the heals. Environment shit just kills you and the Grubsong equivalent sucks ass in Silksong.
>>538820972eh, fair enough. the third nail upgrade is pretty noticeable and you'll want it sooner or later if going for act 3
holy shit, I just saw that ONGBAL (the Sekiro guy) did a Silksong no damage fight against Karmelita. How the hell does he master every game I play?Also, absolute cinema last hit.
>>538820501The runback is legitimately 30 seconds AND it just got nerfed. Just sprint and you wont have to deal with a single enemy.
>>538821079Jesus fucking Christ this fight dumpstered me and I was playing as hard as I can. He makes the parries look so easy.
>>538821079This is pretty standard HK gameplayIDK why this guy became so big, parryslops are the worst genre of game to be "amazed" about. All the games look the same and play the same. Your character has an invincible button that hurts the enemy that you can tap over and over again to kill a boss, what a concept.
>>538820501I don't know what you're doing to get hit by her jump, are you trying to pogo her?you only need to jump when she charges or does the downsmash
>>538818978>>538819072>>538819281>>538819572bros, im not sure if i want to play this game anymore.... its clear im not the target audience...
>>538821205There is no reason to be bitter, Karmelita is one of the hardest bosses in the game so damageless regardless is pretty impressive.
>>538821305Is this the first game your mom bought you or something? You have to do this kind of stuff in Godmaster gauntlet.
>>538821347Why are you so mad lol, I've already full cleared HK but a damageless Karmelita is still cool. I'm sure you haven't done it.
>>538821347I'm sure you did all this while blindfolded and getting your nuts crushed while your controller was a flute and you literally died if you lost the attempt, good job, anon, I'm very proud of you.
>>538821405Of course I haven't done it, because I don't have 3rd party tool to replay the fight I've cleared, retard. Do you think this guy does this first try or something? He just replays the game hundreds of time and record the one time he gets it. First day on the internet?>>538821435Ooh so ONGBAL did this? He's a eunuch? You look up to this? Nice self own faggot
>>538821489>ERRR ITS NOT ACTUALLY IMPRESSIVE BECAUSE HE HAD TO PRACTICE FOR ITlmao dude you're floundering
Going back and re-exploring old areas and man, I'm kind of ashamed at how much I actually missed.
>>538821548its probably more efficient to backtrack once you have all the mobility tools anyway, only need to do it once instead of several times
>>538820803Killing that guy is needed for the final wish of act 2, so leave it for the last thing to you do in act 2.
>>538821347>>538821489Why the fuck are you so angry?
Fun fact: it's impossible for a videogame to be too difficult, because the player can always git gud.
Legitimately insane that this segment is missable, its one of the peaks of the game.
>>538821732Why the fuck is little manbaby so impressed that some gook on the internet uses a save state to replay things over and over :^( Normal people who don't want to play the game unmodified will just fight the boss once, accept that they can't refight it until some gauntlet DLC maybe. Of course normal people can't "practice" on it.Being impressed that a gook downloads a 3rd party program and spends hundreds of hours on a boss secretly offline is legitimately insane.
>>538821795Missed the event because I didn't get caught like a noob
>>>/v/720401319>anons are beating silksong with half a hand
>>538821827It just seems like you're mad he's popular. Very pathetic and low test.
>>538821871>being impressed at a person because he's popular without critically analyzing whyGolem mentality :^)
>>538821914I'm impressed by his gameplay though, its entertaining. Meanwhile you've been malding over him being popular:>>538821205
>I'm impressed by the expected gameplay form the developers because some gook plays the game with a 3rd party programAww :^) so easily amused. Like a nice little golem. Next please click the recommended videos on the right hand side on youtube and watch all the ads.
being a schadenfreude huffing crab is extremely high test thoughbeit
>>538822034>the expected gameplay is a damageless boss fightman you are miserable
Of course this thread is easily amused, they probably check the thermostat for their IQ daily. (reply to this post with your reading)
When are we going to get comfy lore discussions, this thread is just angry /v/irgins
Now that the dust has settled, is Silksong better than Hollow Knight?I need to know if the first game is still worth it.
>>538822202>comfy lore discussionstentacle beast hornet only happens if you get caught by the cage nigga and thrown into slabcoincidence?
>>538822234no.
Anons whats the mosnter between cogwork defender and cogwork dancers? As well as the four (4) between belleater and the wingmold
>>538822234better gameplay but setting and music is weaker imoboth are worth playing though it's somewhat difficult to go back to HK slow moveset after zipping around on sk
>>538822234Hollow Knight is significantly better. Less grindy, higher quality overall, more complete due to the DLCs adding the gauntlets.Silksong is a massive slog. It has good challenging contents but a lot of dogwater. The game feels like it could have used 33% less content and it'd be great.
>>538821870
>>538822234In most ways I would say its better, but I understand if people would prefer HK. They feel different and distinct enough to be complimentary.If we're talking about launch Hollow Knight to launch Silksong, Silksong EASILY clears it.
So I beat last judge and his explosion killed me now I have to fight again, what is this bullshit
>>538822343oh no no nowhy did he stand next to the obviously telegraphed explosion
>>538822343LMAO were you busy screenshotting the "win" and ignoring the obvious telegraph?
>>538822343I got lucky he died a mile way in the corner thanks to a tool hit. I didn't even have to move.
>>538822343>he go allahu ackbar'dlmao gottem
>>538822414>>538822441I beat him and took a sip of my coffee immediately as I watch myself get exploded
>>538822663I feel like the Widow surprise phase 2 was put in deliberately to make sure you stay on your toes until you're SURE the boss is dead.
Is it worth it?
>>538822853>bug fixes and improved early economyUnless you're really upset about the Sister Splinter and Moorwing nerfs but you should have already beaten them anyways.
Did they reduce environmental damage in the patch? I'm in The Vault and gears are only doing 1 damage. I didn't see it in the patch notes.
>>538822980>- Various additional fixes and tweaks.I assume it was an additional tweak
If you haven't completed the game before this update, you didn't win the game.
>>538823065Moorwing is our Consort Radahn...
Uuuhhhh should I absorb Eva? that's final upgrade right?
>>538823225Yes, its what she wanted and its good
>Beat the (first?) final bossI assume that it was this easy because it'll make me fight them back-to-back for the true ending.
>>538823267Its that easy because there is a secret ending for beating it while cursed so you cant heal or use abilities.
>>538822853>instead of 10 attempts at moornig, you'll now need 7I'm glad you beat the game (it was harder before)
>>538823225>expected red vesticrest slot>got salubranigga fuck you
>>538823328An ending you can miss because it's based on a sidequest that requires you to remember a dumb NPC.
>>538823850He's a completely optional boss (and Sister Splinter is too actually, you can pogo off a flower enemy to get to the wall cling segment) so I dont think its that big of a deal.>>538823929How would an extra red slot even work buttonwise? Architect is the 3 red option.>>538823943Yeah I mean it is a secret one. I missed it and I'm using it as an excuse to replay the game with a different approach, its not a huge deal.
>>538823929Is evolved evolved hunter any good?
>>538824010I'm pissed off because I found out about that in act 3 and it was miserable to go through void mass areas and sometimes boss waves with it up. It didn't even let me use tools. Against silk it would have been easy but those abyss spawn have such bullshit skillsets.
>>538824156Same, I also found it in act 3 lol. It was a memorable sequence to be sure. Glad I didnt save the gourmet food delivery quest to act 3.
NOOOOOO
>>538824457how is your dress black?
>>538824457Yeah I actually said that outloud too, I should have fucking known it would happen. Zaza staying with his corpse broke my heart.
I hate walking around without a map
>>538824553i got hit to take the screenshot
>>538824457I teared up
>>538822853Absolutely, it removes the retarded float input override.
Shit quest
>>538821853If you've played bloodborne you would know the right move is to purposefully get caught if an enemy has a cage
oh boy, can't wait to find out what sort of fun adventures i'm going to have here..i think i'll go the other way see what is in the mists instead of what ever this shit is
>>538825713I... I've never played a souls game in my life
>>538825738The Mists technically drops you off in Bilewater too, just not very much of it.
>>538825713>quirky meta knowledge check referring a game that never gets ported to any other platform on an enemy that despawns
>>538825738Smart
>boss just disappear from the map BRAVO TEAM CHERRY!
>Seth is really easyHe is HK level easy wtf
>>538825936which boss?
I just beat Moorwing so I don't know shit about shit but I'd like to know what you guys think: The rosary economy or balancing or whatever you wanna call it is kinda fucked, right? I explored two entire zones and had maybe 200 rosaries after that, which I could have quickly farmed in 10 minutes
>Slight difficulty reduction in early game bosses Moorwing and Sister Splinter>Sister SplinterDammit, I spent so much time re-playing that battle. Should have waited for the nerf instead.
>>538825963Fat bitch from Sinner's Road. I thought it was just a one-time bug but then it happened again.
I am not having a good time with all this platforming. Mt Fay was bad enough with the timer, but arenas and bosses where you've gotta stay in the air the entire time are killing me. Also fuck bilewater.
>>538825974My problem with Sister Splinter was that the minions were harder than the boss itself. But it got easier once I discovered that I could one-hit kill them with thread storm
I got through Bilewater in about an hour, idk what everyone is complaining about. does it get worse in later acts?
>>538826118Why do so many people sleep on the wall cling tool
>>538826146The runback to the boss is long, and the maggot water is everywhere. If there's a way to counteract it I haven't found it yet.
>>538826145Yeah. I don't really remember how I defeated them. I got lucky, i guess.
>>538826154unironically speedrunner brainrot>it doesn't increase DPS?>it's shitso many casual players ignore better QoL because the big boys don't use them.
>>538826274You are either supposed to spend 1 full heal to clear it. That or get an item that is available even later in the game.
>>538826453There's like no good combat yellows, there's the dice and the recoil reduction and thats basically it. So wallcling stayed on for basically all exploration.
>>538826154>>538826453too situational, my only use for it was 3 parkour heavy parts
>>538826453>Yellow>DPSWhat does he mean by this
>>538826453It's more like minmax brainrot, same as people (like me) who take nothing but damage abilities in RPGs. If anything, speedrunners love traversal tools
>>538826274There is a tool that resists the maggot water.
>>538825936>>538826057that's weird, does it happen when she dives, does she not come back out or is it something else?
>>538826662Happened to me when fighting Seth, if the boss does a dive and you walk a bit off screen it disappears
>>538826549I meant the item, I know you can heal to clear it. But having to burn a heal just to clear it feels bad when it takes longer to get a single heal.>>538826643Haven't found it yet.
>>538826274There are silk spool right before the boss you can use to clear the maggots.
>>538826552What do the dice even do?
>>538826927It's an absolute must, has a chance to negate damage when you get hit.
>>538826927It has a chance to negate the damage for a hit you take, going up in odds every hit taken and hitting around 7%
>>538827003>chanceShan't use it
>>538826927It's RNG block. Which taught me a lot about the abyss bullshit status since I'd block attacks and still take damage.
>>538826154Spent all my money on furniture for my house
>>538826607>extra damage>less recoil>faster dash>tool capacity
>>538827028I mean what other yellows are you using in boss fights
>Groal could use soul spells with seeker soulImagine if Hornet got a boss soul for each boss and used their ability
>>538827120>changing your loadout for bossesCome on man
>>538826146Where the fuck is the map in Bilewater? I HATE having no idea where I am.
>>538827180???I changed my tools all the time depending on what the boss behavior was. Who cares? Why would I need a compass in a boss fight?
>>538827197You need double jump to reach it, its a couple screns from the fast travel point. Look for the rings above you.
>>538827112>extra damageYou are trying too hard mate, no one is every using that for minimal increase>less recoilIt is much less effective than Steady Body from HK. fucking trash>faster dashmostly irrelevant>tool capacity?>Didn't mention the diceEXPOSED
>>538826662No, it's not after dive. She fly away to the left or the right and never comes back. I beated her anyway but I'm not the only one who had that problem.It was still annoying because I needed to reload the gamehttps://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/515657-hollow-knight-silksong/81037698
when does sherma get /ss/'d
>>538827461never to everyone's surprise
>>538827461I really like his cute Songclave outfit he gets.
>>538827197In the vertical section between the sinners road entrance and the bellway. You need double jump.
>>538827329>dice>DPSretard
>>538827712>he didn't play the gamealready noticed
What the hell is up with the giant bell in Underworks? Someone's talking in it. I thought it might be the top of Bellhart, but I've been poking around in there and nothing.
A guy in one of my Discord servers lost his Steel Soul run at 97% complete. I want to get all the achievements but I'm pretty sure I would never play again if that happened to me.
>>538827329>?Steel soul exclusive tool
>>538826154i'm too used to spamming jump to stay on the same place on the wall and platforming without it isn't hard at all
>>538828009>97%There's no way. I don't even think speed runners have gotten that far.What killed him?
>>538827924Explore the top of Greymoor.
>>538824019It's about the same as evolved Hunter, which means it doesn't really matter. Even if focus is maxed out, at best 1 less hit is needed to kill most enemies, and the damage bonus is lost upon taking a hit.
Final boss is kinda a disappointment tbqhMain way it deals damage is just teleporting randomly into you
>>538828221I didn't ask earlier because I'm still in Act 2 and didn't want spoilers. I messaged him and asked for the name of the boss but I think he's gone to bed.
>>538824010unlike hk where heal and spells were on one button, silksong arbitrarily gave both heal and spell their own dedicated button.
>>538828313Will do, thanks.>used my last craftmetal on the stupid bladed float moveDammit...
Finally, the tutorial is over.
>>538828701Forgot my pic. Man, I want bombs.
>>538828701>used my last craftmetal on the stupid bladed float moveIt's not to bad actually. I've played with this tool a for some time and it's actually very convenient to deal with pesky flying enemies.
Just beat the final act, and I'm honestly kind of mad that you can't go around talking to everyone after saving Pharloom from the void. It made sense with Hollow Knight considering how all the endings pan out, but there's no real reason to not be able to go around talking to people after saving the day.
>HK ending sequel baited the true knight appearing>no mention in Silksong????
>>538828985Pray for the dlc>>538828938I mean the game literally ends after the boss fight and there's going to be additional content, it makes sense to not have a "post victory" phase to the maps.
How are there still areas left!?
>get to widow>ass gets fucked repeatedlyactually suffering
what does the temple that you unlock with fountains in verdania do? i cant find whatever it unlocked
>>538820030return the slab
>>538829276Play violin to make lights. Collect them.The area is about unlocking the boss by doing all the mini challenges.
>>538829075>spoilerI suppose. Still doesn't sit quite right with me.
>>538829214she's not that bad, once you get past the audio and visual clutter you'll notice she's pretty simple fight.
>>538828221>>538828479He said the boss is called Karmelita and it's one of the last ones. Apparently it has a completely random chance to block any attack and it blocked seven of his attacks back to back during the final phase.
>>538829315i already have the boss unlocked prior, theres a temple to the right of the map that you open with a platforming challenge which gives you some more light orbs to collect and unlocks something but idk
>>538829420I fucking knew it was her
>>538829420>random chance to block any attackwhat the actual fuck
>>538829513Many enemies in the game can randomly block your attack if you attack while they stand still. Won't happen if you strike while they are in the middle of their attack.It is a pretty cringe mechanic. You just get used to it.
>Missing two spool fragments>missing 4 monstersHow could I miss any creatures, whats between the cogwork defender and dancers, and then between the bell eater and kingsmould??
>>538816404it’s brothers you absolute faggot
>>538829604im not far into act 3 so dont know about after the bell eater, for me it goes bell eater > giant flea > garmond and zaza
>>538829737Nah I have the giant flea and garmond and zaza
>Heart bosses>Khan: Absolute trash>Nyleth: Worse than Khan>Green Prince: Rehashed lol>Karmelita: The only good oneSEVEN YEARS
>>538829908Khan is easy but fine. Nyleth is a fun gimmick boss, Seth is cool as fuck. Green Prince is easy but Cogwork Dancers was great so I dont care.Karmelita has WAY too much health but she is fun. I dont really like how the buzzsaw move has such a nutty range but ah well. And Lost Lace is KINO.
just entered act 3.so far i think cogwork dancers are the best boss across act 1 and 2 followed by second sentinel, wondering if anything in act 3 will be as good if not better.
>>538829908Karmelita isn't even good because of the block RNG like the other anons are talking about.
Well that was short. Hellish enemies, weird boss. Did that, got the mask piece, and the whatever-it-was at the top of the climb near it. Is that all there is? This didn't lead to that flea...
>>538830059There should be a craftmetal off to the right. off to the left there is a secret path up towards a flea.
First Sinner was the best boss fight.
Cogwork dancers are great conceptually and aesthetically, but kinda easy unfortunately
>>538830020Seth is unironically better than the actual heart bosses.
>>538829737just checked the area with the clapper and he doesn't appear in act 3, like its all broken so iguess I missed out on having a full journal of all enemies
>>538830157curse you team cherry
>>538830154I mean he's a Make-A-Wish kid boss, they probably felt they had to make it a good one.
>>538830221checked the wiki and the other missing 3 are all from the Cradle which has no enemies both in Act 2 and Act 3 so I dunno what I missed
>>538830157>>538830221There shouldnt be a missable enemy in the game, Act 3 moved some shit around so he's probably somewhere else now. They did the same thing with the rhino beetle.
>>538830130I loved First Sinner, but genuinely think that she was too easy of a fight for what she was supposed to be.
>>538830324There was only 1 in game and I was just in the core and he's not there so I dunno
>>538830128Dammit, I thought I explored pretty thoroughly. Thanks, will poke harder.
>>538830310act 3 it leads to the surface, theres worms and roaches there
>>538830510I thought that spoiler was just a joke.....
>>538830325I think I would describe her (?) as fair. No bullshit, no offscreen trash, just fast paced, reaction based with precise movement.Genuinely a pleasure to fight.
>>538829420>RNG block seven times in a row during the hardest phase of any fightThat's the worst way to lose a run.
Speaking of RNG block I think the enemy parrying your attack is probably random too.That or the hit box is very bad as in many cases you cannot hurt the enemy at all while they are striking even when you hit what looks like a soft spot.
Just finished my 100% run.>All flying enemies have the same spacing behavior>All projectiles trace your movement mid flight>Enemies have a random chance to block your atttacks>Half the enemies have parries>Most enemies deal double damage>Most bosses more unique moves than hits you can take>Bosses have collision damage and can teleport directly on top of you>All bosses have RNG move selection rather than patterns or rotations>Several bosses have enemy gauntlets immediately before them>Most bosses have long run backs>Enemies are placed out of sight on leaps of faith>Enemy spawns directly in the immediate path of run back routesThis game has so much intentionally frustrating or lazy design in it that adds artificial difficulty. To top it off, I think only maybe five of the fifty or so bosses are cool. Seven years for this garbage.
mists is an interesting zone but damn did i fuck it up many times
>>538831435I agree with most of these. Game has a lot of good parts and A LOT of bad parts. I don't have an issue with double damage though, the standard was set at the start of the game.Main issue is collision doing x2 damage on some cringe enemies that either hover around randomly or teleport right in your face.
>>538831435Add "grace period on getting hit is shorter than the duration of most hitboxes and doesn't ignore collision" and I think you have literally all of my complaints.
>>538831435the bosses in this are way better than HK
Is it even possible to buy merchant stock without grinding in this game? Jesus fucking christ the economy is FUCKED.
>>538831972You cannot. You can clear an entire area and only get enough for bench + map + fast travel unlocks.Big chests drop 50 rosaries and there are probably fewer than 10 in the entire game.Many areas don't drop rosaries.Grinding is expected.
Silksong bosses mog Hollow Knight bosses>but muh dlcAnd the dlc Silksong bosses will mog the dlc Hollow Knight bosses.
>>538831953No. HK bosses all felt unique. Here i've been fighting seven bosses in a row who used adds as the only way of ramping the difficulty up.
>>538832068Just look how much they have "improved" in designing bosses over 7 years lmao
>>538832091so you got filtered by the difficulty
>>538832175Judging by the rave reviews and sales I think Team Cherry is probably vindicated in their design decisions.
>>538831435Silksong is a game that made me absolutely certain that contact damage needs to fucking go from this genre. There's been a few recent metroidvanias that managed to create fairly decent difficulty without it (namely Last Faith). Dealing with these dashing hitboxes that can just teleport on top of you in Silksong is so clunky in comparison.
just fought the second sentineli'm kinda sad because i couldn't memorize his moveset at all, the tornado twirl and projectile attacks always hit me but i still managed to beat him by virtue of an upgraded needle and 8 masks of health
>>538831435i hate the runbacksthey just make the game tedious
>>538832246I'm filtered by the shittiest, most repetitive boss design i've seen in genre.
>>538832270That's a very pathetic argument lmao
What's this for? Act 3?
HK had way worse runbacks than SS, I feel like people just memoryholed them. Or maybe the bosses were just easy.
>>538832454It's not anything in Act 3 either
>>538832424It must suck to be in the minority
I'M IN GREYMOOR WHEN THE FUCK DO I GET WALL JUMP
Spells in this game feel so shitty i literally didn't notice any difference by swapping to ArchitectIn fact the fucking weaver pistol with poison may be better than all spells i've seen thus far.
>>538832381you didnt 100% it did you
>>538832053this is a lie, but only in the citadel, clearing an area in it usually puts me at 1k to 1.5k rosaries
>>538832643Thread Storm is great and helps against fliers and Rune Rage is busted.
>>538831435Which bosses did you like and why didn't you like the other ones?
>>538832838Thread Storm is garbage. Every tick of it deals 0.75 damage, it's less than 4 hits with a nail or a single throw of certain poison tools. You will unironically have easier time with fliers just by having poison knives.
>>538832643>Spear: Early game only trash (63)>Storm: Good (16*5)>Parry: Good for iframes (13*4)>Charge: Kinda good (57 max)>Random AOE: (126 max) Good in gauntlets (I heard), casting is really long>Three daggers: What's the point (21*3)
>>538832970if you have fully upgraded nail or lots of tool damage then you already switched to rune rage
>>538832970Threadstorm AoE is super useful for dealing with swarms or annoying flying shit.>>538832838Rune Rage is good? Thats cool to hear, I was scared it sucked due to the charge time and random nature of the spread.>>538833110Charge giving Iframes is really nice.
>>538833232Rune Rage is great against the Forum.
>>538833232>Threadstorm AoE is super useful for dealing with swarms or annoying flying shit.I can just summon 4 flies
>some of the enemies like the big pilgrims got nerfed to do 1 damageShitters won...
>>538833537If you haven't finished the game by now, you are a shitter too
act 3 is just absolute kino. I saw sentinel fighting big reeds. was I supposed to kill him in act 2?
>>538833608I have, I'm just watching speedruns
what is he trying to say in second sentence? writing error or I'm retarded?
hahaaaritalla ZENZIBOOO!
this game is about smashing bugs, but its easier to just smash the rodens in my walls, sometimes i think about shooting them out with a shotgun but its probably going to scare the neighbors. there was a rat in my shelves that i trapped my cat inside to kill it and the dumb bitch just made friends with it instead, i had to poke it to death with my silksong temu ass chinese metal curtain rod but it didnt kill it enough so i smashed its spine with the cupboard door and thought about how my ancestors would praise me like silksong would praise me for defeating the rats in my house. My cat is still learning what death is so I dont blame her, its just what you have to do with pests, too bad it crawled off back into his rat hole underneath my shelves after it fell on the floor and clearly had its back broken, I am awaiting for phase 2 but I doubt its going to end up like that. The rat knew it was wrong, maybe it will still live, maybe they will summon a swarm of rats that will eat me in my sleep. HAHHAH. Mother fuckers. Silksong is such a cool game but I actually like bugs. Except for the ugly mean bugs. Just the nice ones. I know rats are nice but they are pests, its why I dissociate and think I am a character in SilkSong!!!!
>>538832815That's called grinding faggot, and it only happens after you get Thief item and>citadelThis has so many areas it has its own train system. Might as well call Parloom an "area" faggot.
After beating SS I kind of think all the lore in this game is nonsense, even more nonsensical than HK or any Souls gameI don't mean Hornet's travel through the kingdom but all the random dialogues with NPCs, or notes you find. It's all so many words but it says so little. Just gibberish most of the time.
>>538834105The "lore" in these games are just>everybody dies>silk soul and the radiance's yellow AIDS>gay mantis tribe died
>>538834105>Protag speaks now>Forgot to give the protag a personality
>You get nothing for fighting it>Not even a challenging or fun fightWhy even add it?
>>538834296Hornet has a personality though, read the hunter's journal. Some of you guys have the dumbest complaints.
>>538834338It's (supposed to be) a progression gate.
>>538834338That is one of a few bosses TC actually put some efforts on, don't shit on her
>>538834338beating her is needed for wall jump thoughever
>>538834338Don't you get wall jump for that?
>>538834417>>538834424You can actually skip her with a pogo off a flower enemy, you lure it over with taunt.
>>538834405>One attack and minion spam>Effort
>>538834529>summons vines to zone you in>one attackEven without vines she has more attacks lmaoDesign-wise she is the better Khan unironically
>>538833349I beat the forum with poison, the boomerang, sting shards, and thread storm.
Which areas are inaccessible until act 3?
>>538834513what a creative way to not play the game you paid for
how do you get to the first sinner?
>>538834707Good for you. I just used Rune Rage to annihilate annoying waves and one of the final bosses.
>>538832838Rune Rage is ass. Long cast time, random hitbox. I'd much rather use pale nails in almost all situations.
>>538834718>sequence breaking and finding new routes in a metroidvania is badAre you retarded
>>538834764the path to her is above the bench next to the slag station, you can reach it with double jump but the devs likely intended the player to have super jump to get there
>>538834834>sequence breaking in the first playthrough>deliberately evading contentsgenius chad move
Is Bilewater mostly blocked off in Act 1?
>>538834974Yes.
>>538834925>>538834834They're not missing out on anything.
>>538834974You can get there, but you can't do much without double jump.
>>538834919>likely intended the player to have super jump to get thereWhy? I don't remember doing any special to get to her.
>>538834087it's not called grinding, it's called exploringand I do understand it is big, I meant area literally, I got 1.5k by just fully mapping the vault area
>>538834974Yes. You can only progress to The Mist.
>>538834919WellThat was over in like 30 seconds.All I did was clawline and needle
>>538835064Oh thank god, I'll go to the citadel then
>>538832893If the fight has a rematch, assume I'm talking about that version of the fight.Trobbio, Seth, Fourth Chorus, Last Judge, Father of Flame, Clockwork Dancers, and First Sinner.I think Trobbio and Seth are objectively the most well designed bosses in the game. The others I listed are very good but suffer from not having very much health so they end too quickly. I think they could each have about 50% more health and they would be good. I saw everyone calling First Sinner and Clockwork Dancers great fights, but I first tried them and it felt like they were missing a phase. This was especially confusing with First Sinner given you had to break all those locks to open it up, I figured it was going to be a really intense fight but it just kind of wasn't. Everything these bosses do felt completely fair and nothing ever felt like it was bullshit.Karmelita and Lace are close to being good fights but the bad aspects of them are so comically terrible that I don't care that rest of their fights are pretty good.
>>538834338The lack of boss rewards in general is frustrating. Was it like this in 1 too? Some bosses here don't even have anything good behind them.
>>538829346oh you're rightonce I relaxed phase 3 was very straightforward
So where does Hornet store picrels?
>>538834105Silksong's lore feels like the devs played Blasphemous games and decided to have Blasphemous at home, except with none of the cool grimdark shit and weird designs and names."Citadel" sounds pitifully generic compared to "Mother of Mothers"
>>538835278nope, in hollow knight every boss exploded in a rain of cash money, why the fuck did silksong remove this?
>>538835254>Liking TrobbioOpinion discarded.
>>538835346in ur mum's ass
>>538835278At least you got geo from bosses. Getting literally nothing from beating a boss just feels like a spit in the face. Progression shouldn't be your only reward. Silksong feels like all stick and no carrot.
>>538835581What the hell are you on? Trobbio is kino.
>>538835425Because geo was worthless by the time you hit midgame. Everything showered you in geo and you just bought everything. Seems they wanted to change that.
>>538835581you need to explain this retarded comment
>>538835669They've changed a bit too radically because now you're constantly broke (unless you farm for rosaries). Plus having too much rosaries wouldn't be a problem at all since you can just use rosary machine gun.
Trobbio 1 was okay, 2 just punches my eyes every 10 seconds
>>538835836Ehh once you hit the citadel you have assloads of rosaries.
IT'S HAPPENING
FUCK SPIDERS AND FUCK MOTHS. In my eternal kingdom, buzzsaws deal 1 damage and the benches are FREE.
SCRIMBLIO
>>538835946>he doesnt knowBuzzsaws deal 1 damage in Pharloom too, old man
>>538835892He's right, between the songclave merchant, the architect, and the thief fly all selling essential tools upgrade mats and heart pieces at the same time, I've had to farm something like 3000-4000 rosaries. By the time Act 2 is over, not even counting act 3, I'll probably have spent the most time farming in Silksong than I've spent in any game ever.
GENTLEMEN
>>538836157If you farm in act 2 you can get like 250 rosaries a minute so I really doubt you had to farm for more than 15 minutes to clear out the game.
>>538835946Does this make Hallownest a welfare state?
>>538835892No, you don't. Between all the merchants and the songclave merchant even having a stock upgrade you literally cannot buy everything just by progressing through even if you do the shitty fetch side quests
WHEN DO I GET A FUCKING WEAPON UPGRADE THESE PIECES OF SHIT HAVE A MILLION HP EACH
>>538836157do you double die often wtf? ive had to spend a few mins farming max and i have every purchasable
UH OHHHHHHHHI LEFT CHORAL CHAMBERS TO DO SOMETHING AND I CAN'T GET BACK INTO UNDERWORKS OR CHORAL CHAMBERS
>>538836470Nta, but I've lost no more than ~500 rosaries per whole playthrough and had to farm about the same amount (something around ~3000-4000).
>>538836434I am not convinced the damage upgrade in Bellhart is even real. I certainly don't feel any stronger after getting it..
>>538836567Yeah, the first upgrade is ass. Even if you technically deal more damage, most enemies will still take the same amount of hits.
>>538836486false alarm I can hit the platforms. to get up
>>538836563i did 1 farming session in the citadel with the charm and it took a few mins to get 1200, the rest i got naturally. i swear im playing a different game than the people who are complaining about various things
>>538836567The game feels like it was designed by a control freak. It took me deep into act 2 with architect crest and 2 upgrades to finally notice the damage difference.
>>538835669huh? i distinctly remember having to farm for sly's shop because he's a fucking jew that sells four mask shards
>>538831435>Enemies have a random chance to block your atttacksIt's not blocking. It's clashing
>>538836935Shut up you fucking nerd.
>>538836935Even worse. They become invulnerable block frame blobs during attacks.
>mfw double damage environmental hazards
>>538831435how the fuck do you get 100% and not even realize parry exists?>uhh there are enemies when you diewhoa>bosses have RNGas opposed to what???
>>538837087so do you, in a trading hits scenario you would be dead in seconds without the clashing
Sherma? He looks like he fucks female spiders
>>538837458>so do youNo. If you enter their hitbox you still take damage. And it's very easy to clip them provided the forward momentum of some attacks.
>>538831435>>Most bosses have long run backslol?There's 3 bosses in the game with long runbacks, last judge, groal or whatever his name in bilewater, and pintressEverything else is like 10-15 seconds tops
Imagine if the game gave you 3 slots for charge attacks, made them generate Silk and allowed you to equip charge attacks from other crests provided you pay for it.Imagine if there was a way to turn binding into 1 mask heal with shorter animation, taking 33% of your spool like it was in the original HK.Imagine if bosses dropped rosary beads and shards.Imagine if instead of adds bosses actually had well thought out, threatening movesets.Imagine if you could swap between two crests at any moment.Imagine if you could have fun.
>>538837674>Imagine if bosses dropped rosary beads and shards.this would be nice
>>538837674I already had fun because I'm not a manbaby /v/turd
>>538837669Pinstress is a really easy runback. With super jump and double jump you don't have to follow the intended path. You can just zip up there in like 10 seconds
>>538837975She literally teleported behind you. Now do this with any simple bug.
>>538837279I wish the parry dealt damage desu, as it stands it's kind of a time waster that you only do as an emergency cope to avoid taking damage.
why do these ants have so much hp
>>538838086
>>5388383101/3 or so of every shitter mob has to have the same difficulty as mini-bosses in other games. Please understand.
>>538838384They didn't clip your model
i'm at the church place, why doens't he map show the teleport points? it's really annoying, i end up justy having to go to benches and hope to find one
>>538838310they are tanky but drop far more beads than most other enemies in act 1. 13 beads per ant i think
>>538837669Last judge was like 20 seconds run for me
>>538838678talk to shakra and she'll make pins for the elevators
I feel like I'm saying "yes I killed him once, he's in the journal, now I never need to fight him ever again, fuck this enemy" way more now than I did back in Hollow Knight.
>>538821079A lot of people could learn from this video, too many people are bouncing around like a fucking ADHD kid on a pogo stick taking damage they don't need to. Even with harpoon, Hornet has pretty bad mobility in the air!
>>538839605>Even with harpoon, Hornet has pretty bad mobility in the air!retard
No more comfy thread on /v/? it was fun while it lasted lads
>hunters march
>>538838384why does every enemy have so much health?
>>538839894why can't vtards just come to vg anyway, basically the same thing
i miss crystal heart and descending dark so much bros...
>>538839894fine by me, I got a three day vac from /v/
>>538833927he's pretty sure that it wont explode under the pressure when you travel in the diving bell again
>>538838651where the hell is the model then?
>>538835946silk song cemented how based and right he truly was
>>538835946>FUCK SPIDERSI will!
>>538839686One dash and one harpoon is not good mobility anon! You get unlimited dashes on the fucking ground! Pogoing is baby's first defensive technique because many enemies are not swinging directly up but you would do more damage more quickly if you just fought the enemies on the ground and used your tools or harpoon to kill aerial enemies!
>>538838384>hp barwhat mod?
>>538840417probably this one, with settings changedhttps://www.nexusmods.com/hollowknightsilksong/mods/28
>you have to donate every relic to the relic seeker before you can buy a houseVery weird requirement. Is this really how it works? Because I cleared the Bellhart board 10 hours ago and I still can't get my key. I didn't even realize owning a house was a feature until I got the thing in Memorium.
>>538793023I've occasionally seen this character in threads, but apparently I somehow completely missed meeting him since I'm well into act 3.
>>538840585It's not lol. I think you only need to donate the rosaries to Bellhart
Im playing with the map and auto pickup charm modded in permanently and Im never going back.
>>538840585No, you only need to donate the 400 rosaries, reload the area, and talk to the funny hat guy
Are the delivery quests you get from the twin brothers in Bellhart required for act 3?
>>538841297two of them afaik.One for the food quest one to the top of ice ice mountain.
Knight's feats>defeats Hornet twice (trained by the queen of bees personally btw) >defeats the Hollow Knight, the strongest of all the void vessels housing a God>enters the HKs dream and beats Radiances ass too>actually, comes back and beats the PERFECT form of Radiance again for good measure>defeats the Nightmare's Heart, another GodHornet's feats>defeats Silk, a God>final boss is a sassy child made of silk that fell in a puddle of gooKnight clears so bad
Just got the first crest and so far it hasn't been that bad. Only complaint so far is I didn't have the money to buy the Greymoor map at first and when I returned the map seller already fucked off and now I'm wandering around looking for an exit. Don't know why they made maps so tedious again.
>>538840654>>538798943
>>538841450The knight was fighting a bunch of nepo welfare babies.Hornet has to beat the toughest of the tough Pharloom has to offer.Its not even close.
>>538841450Knight also becomes a god of gods
>>538841297I've never done the delivery wish besides the courier rasher one and still got the silk and song wish
>>538841450Gotta wait for the dlc
>>538841450>DLC Knight vs vanilla HornetSo what did Knight do pre-DLC?
Am I supposed to be able to get to Putrefied Ducts from Memoriam with just double jump? Because it did not feel like I was supposed to be able to do that.
>>538842003All of that minus perfect radiance and the TroupeStill more feats than Hornet
>>538842008Yes, I did that the second the locate trader quest popped up
are these "Gods" really Gods when it seems the two regions are isolated from the effects of the other but they're still close enough that bugs travel between them?I mean, the Radiance can't possibly be THE SUN when Pharloom was completely untouched
>>538842003Well, among other things, handing Hornet her ass on a plate twice
>>538842259H-hot!
>>538842257They're higher beings per se, but the Void Entity is also "just" a higher being and is still called the God of Gods in-game, thus making higher beings = Gods
>>538841593>nepo welfare babies.Like Hornet
>>538842008>>538842221That's what I just did but those jumps were tight and I had to abuse the clawline on the edges to make them. At least got the transport there unlocked now.
>>538841479No wonder, I never saw a reason to go above those death cubes.
>Nintendo Direct 10 minutesSilksong? Silksong? Silksong? Silksong?
>>538842686it's been a week since it came out, what do you want from them?
>>538842259Silksong as a whole is basically a training montage for Hornet, the Knight is basically beating up a baby
>>538842851The Knight was like a week he WAS a baby
>>538841407>one to the top of ice ice mountain.Not mentioned here https://www.pcgamer.com/games/action/silksong-act-3-unlock/ which would be a massive lie by omission.
>Get to Groal The Great>Does his big suck attack, figure its just going to be some contact damage>He actually swallows you and has a digestion animationDamn. I used to not believe people saying this game was full of sexual shit but now I see.
>>538842924>Goo Goo Gah Gah Baby Fight is on the list of the Knight's impressive featsI'm unconvinced by you, anon
>>538843030wat? I'm saying the knight was a baby, quite literally, his ass just spawned and crawled out of the abyssHornet was hundreds of years old
>>538843121The Abyss is a timeless place anon, we have no idea how long the Knight actually spends being formed
>it's another useless spool upgrade episode
>>538843265>he doesn't use his silkYou struggle more than you have to, anon
>>538843265it's only useless up until you get 9 upgrades, and suddenly you get two heals
>>538843121He's older than hornet
>Hornet fights the knight>Wastes all her silk spamming silk arts that miss instead of healing>Gets dumpstered twice in a rowThis is why you always canonically prioritize the heal over the damage. "Just like uh don't get hit bro!" ok you got hit. Now what?
The areas I'm up to (sinners road and last judge) are fucking tilting meI think I've done almost everything else I can but these roadblocks are making me seethe
>>538843391I dunno what to tell you, the Last Judge is very learnable, but you could do some meta build like poison+tacks for an easier time
>>538843391You have not done almost everything else lol
>>538843391Equip fire bell vs judge
>>538843387That's unfair, there are a lot of timelines where spamming silk arts annihilates the Knight
>finally get the second nail upgrade>game is now playable
>>538843509>>538843615Yeah I'm just venting I'll keep tryingHadn't tried the fire bell yet I'll do that
>>538843349The only way to use silk correctly is to heal. Spells are trash, silk using tools only use one pip so they are always useful. Clawline drains your silk out of combat.
>>538844065Thread Storm is incredible for gauntlets
is world sense only available in act 3?
there's first sinner, second sentinel and fourth chorus was there a third thing
>>538844236It's meh. Enemies will just tank through it and hit you mid animation and it deals less than 4 nail hit worth of damage.
>>538844065Spells are awesome. I often get a killshot on bosses from a spell. Tools + spells is like 75% of my damage
>>538843391go up in sinner's road and then right. after some destructable walls you will find a swamp./spoiler] go that way[
>>538844478Tools are good but you're not fooling anyone by saying this about spells. You objectively have to deal more melee damage only to charge them up.
>>538844387I raped sister splinter with it.
>>538844065with 3 silk hearts and weavelight, spamming spells becomes viable because the amount you regenerate is exactly enough to cast a spell
>>538844763That's like the absolute ass end of the game.
>>538844524I found that previously and immediately got lost. I was progressing a decent amount but couldn't find a bench and was struggling to heal because of the maggots. I'll try alternating between progressing there and the boss I'm up to
>>538844570Spells probably make up 5% - 15% of my damage. It's not negligible.
>>538844907you probably don't want to go that way yet. if you find the mists you can go there instead. the boss there is pretty fun
>last judge explodes
>>538845826Lived on that shit from 1 HP, would've been really mad if I died
>>538845543Are you able to point me where that is roughly?
>>538846819left instead of right
>>538846965Thanks
Does anyone have info on (relatively) accurate damage values for stuff like the needle, spells etc? Most things seem to suggest it follows the same damage pattern as the nail upgrades in HK, with the caveat that certain enemies increase in HP slightly when your nail gets upgraded. Feels like guesswork so far.
>royal sewers>Ancient basin>deep nest>2nd half city >fog canyonidk where to start
holy shit this sinners road bench platforming shit is going to make me break my wall
What's his problem?
Are the straight down pogos much easier? I think I need to switch to them because I've gotten used to the diagonal ones but keep misinputting them and side attacking instead
>look up hollow knight videos>you attack directly downwards to pogo>they changed it in silksong for whatever reason, now it's diagonal only which makes it 10x harder
>>538848130yes. i like using reaper since it has better reach than wanderer
>>538848113Nigga who the fuck is that
>>538848130None are as good as HK1's. Hunter doesn't have one, Wanderer's reach and bounce are short, and Hunter's is slow. I guess Hunter is technically the best since it gives the most room for error with its wide attack range.
how do i open?
>>538848339reread your post slowly
>>538848608From the other side>howPart of a quest>which oneThe one that curses you>which one's thatFind a certain item and give it to the centipede
>>538848258only with the hunter cresteach crest has a different downward attack>>538848130It depends on the situation for me. I've switched crest in some places/bosses because I wanted a different pogo. In general it feels like most areas where you need to bounce of something are designed around the default diagonal pogo, and I've found it simpler for pogoing most (but not all) bosses.
>>538848662FUCK.Reaper is the best one. My bad.The caffeine is still kicking in. My bad.
>>538848007remember that you can float
>knife throwing minigame>that will be 25 beads per attempt >manage to hit the ladybug 25 times>reward is just getting some beads back and you end up in the red if it took you a dozen attemptsdamn that little moneygrubber. if he wanted someone to beat up his wifebug with projectiles then he should do it himself instead of making others pay for it
>>538848830as is common for me i cleared it like 5 mins after posting that that is an evil section though
I'm in Act 2 right now. What are people's thoughts on Hollow Knight vs Silksong? At this point, I think that Hollow Knight is better
>>538824457>>538824587>>538824697I wish we could adopt Zaza
>>538849101Nearly done with act 2. Unless 3 is a huge improvement, Silksong is significantly worse than HK. In some ways the mechancis feel like downgrades, especially nail arts, healing and spell system. The map and exploration is extremely unfocused. Bosses are shit, especially the adds spammers and they make like 70% of the roster.
>>538848318Pious Isamor, literally says it on the screen.
Did Savage Beastfly 2 in about 3 tries. When I saw how bullshit that fight was, I gave up on healing and s soon as he hit phase 2, I started tossing all my tools at him and whacking when I could. I was at one mask for a good minute but finally killed him... then a fireball from an add hit me and killed me as his death animation was going. Luckily, quest drop was there when I went back.Am I crazy or do other bosses despawn adds when they die? Motherfucking Savage Beastfly fights, I swear to god the developers do it intentionally. First fight is RNG, second fight you can't track the boss because he flies offscreen.
>>538849025come back later and he'll have another challenge also not worth doing
>>538849573Yeah but who the fuck and where the fuck is thatI have 100% and have never seen thisIs this some ironman mode shit?
>>538849754No, he is to the right of where you find the Sacred Cylinder in Whispering Vaults.
>>538849025i refuse to give him money because the first time i went over the line by accident then he made some snarky comment
what do you do in this room?there' nothing here but two enemies, do i comer back with a powerup? it feels weird and not a regular room
>>538849972R U STOOOPID? I HAVEN'T TOLD YOU THE RULES BUT YOU JUST BROKE ONE. DISQUALIFIED, NO REFUNDS.
>>538849541I got used to most of Silksong's shit but the insane amount of flying enemies and bosses puts Silksong into the shit tier category of games. Nobody finds that fun. I'm still going to finish up getting 100% but I don't know if I'll be back for any future DLC.
>>538850197yeah fuck him desu
>>538850138Interactive maps says nothing. Some rooms feel like they're just there for silk/bestiary/beads because they're just empty. There is one case where they replace the enemies in such a room with a special enemy that can take you to another area if you die to them though.
>>538835346don't ask how the sausage is made
What did they hotfix a few hours ago?
>>538850241Flying enemies are fun if you give character fun anti-air tools. I constantly keep comparing Silksong with Blasphemous 2 and just remembering how satisfying anti air Veredicto was makes Silksong even worse for me.
is the slab a referenceto bloodborne?
>>538850639wtf
>>538851374Half the fucking game is a bloodborne referenceThey injected silk into their own people like Yharnamites did with the blood
>>538848718>centipede?is that Greyroot, the one that gives you the Pollip Pouch in Shellwood?
>>538852176Yea
>>538850639Full image source?
>>538852329reverse image search is very good, just click on the triangle in the post
>>538850241>>538851126Probably also uttered by these dribbling idiots: Silk Arts are bad
>>538852579They are indeed bad. The best way of countering fliers is either a clawline or tools. Arts are dogshit and spend too much silk which is super valuable in this game.
are these a reference to ina?>
>>538852579how does that make them fun? you have tools too
this feels important,can i not pick them up?
>>538845826How do people even fall for that one? All that was left was for the Judge to scream out loud "If I'm going down, I'm taking you with me!" to make it even more obvious.
>>538852996not yet
>>538852996It's just an entry for your compendium, if you interacted with it you already have it
>>538852731looks like a sea slug, not an octopus
Every enemy should either be a flying enemy or the size of the knights outside of Clockwork Dancers and every choke point should have one. Let TC filter all the retards.
Is there really no fucking shortcut from the top of Cogwork Core after learning the melody? I tried quitting to the main menu but it just puts me back at the top.
>>538854338Just float down, anon...
any pirate bros got a link to the update files?
At what point does the game lock you out of Act 2 and forces you to progress?
>>538855049When you beat the final boss
>>538855049you cannot miss it even if you're blind, deaf and dumb
>>538854896you got csrinru, easy to register and download from, unless you want linux gog files
>equip Barbed Bracelets>one hit, 4 masksDAMN! I thought it was +1, not x2
>>538847517there's a damage numbers mod on nexus
>>538852715How to have more silk:>Hit more>Get hit less>>538852812Thread Storm is pretty much always fun to cast, especially when you jump into a crowd of enemies and get 3-4 enemies caught in it
hunters march is the worst fucking area in this game
is there ANY tool that hits straight upwards farther or wider than the nail? i miss abyss shriek
>>538856341if you can't clear hunters march just quit now, its easy compared to act 2
>>538856341>t. 5 hours of playtime
>>538856412its called Thread Storm and it costs silk
>>538856185>she wastes silk on the equivalent of 3 hitsDon't try to whiteknight shit balance
>>538856589>They/them use the aoe art on a single targetNo wonder you're struggling
>>538856706>strugglingthat's a cute way of describing 4 cogflies clearing everything for mekeep wasting silk on trash though
>>538856508It's not as convenient as abyss shriek for hitting targets above you.
>>538856508>poises through your limp dicked magic with zero range and hits you for 2 damage
>see an item>repeatedly die in a platforming section>manage to lose beads>keep trying until i reach the end>it is a shard bundleoh bug damn it
>>538856942>Using cogflies instead of wispsyou can't even understand how hard you make your own life
>>538856960True, but it's much more convenient than trying to impotently jump and swing up at someone above you
>>538857482wisp damage is trash (10) anon have you ever used either of them
Could Lace 2 NOT FUCKING TELEPORT WHERE I AM MOVING TO? Garbage fucking design.
>>538858026So stand still you spergReact to what happens on screen instead of randomly walking around because you feel like it
>>538858113>letting lace dictate the pace of the fightsad!
>>538856341>hunters marchdoes he know?
>>538858181let her have this. her life sucks.
>>538857345Deep docks lava pit?
>>538829094Hate that place
>find secret room>nothing in it but a silkeater>check a spoiler map just to make sure i'm not missing anything>there's another secret room behind the secret room>can't find an opening no matter what i doguess it's for act 3 or a quest or something...
>>538852731
Khann.
I WILL save Sherma from Whiteward, no matter how many times I get shit on this by this fucking gauntlet
funny seeing people say this game is too linear when i have so many things to do in act 2 i can barely keep track of them even with quest markers and pins
>>538860504I've not seen anyone here saying it's too linear. I'm also in Act 2 and this Coral place is huge.
>1hp>hit a coral spike off the ceiling to open a shortcut>die in the process>shortcut still openedall according to plan
>2 damage spikes were almost entirely removed from the gameI've been saying since launch that this was fucking gay and that the devs were going to nerf it. I told you, but everyone was just like lmao get good. Well I was right and you were wrong. That shit is fucking stupid. Double contact damage on stunned enemies is next.
where the fuck do you get the key of heretic? i did not get kidnapped, am i locked out of the slab's upper floors?
>>538861830which spikes do 2 damage?
>>538860504some areas are shaped like a straight line and you have very little incentive to do some other areas if you're not going for 100%, and there's way fewer sequence breaks like hollow knight, that's allfor a metroidvania is fine it's just that HK was more open
>- Slight difficulty reduction in early game bosses Moorwing and Sister Splinter.Moorwing I get, but who the fuck struggled with Sister Splinter???
I found Pale Oil in the vaults. Should I wait with giving it to NPC in Bellhart and get second Pale Oil from Gourmet quest?
Fucking finallyThe coral tower bs took me probably like 10 hours over the span of two fucking days. Jesus fucking christ.
>>538862870you don't get anything by saving it, just go get the damage buff
>>538862870Where the fuck in the vaults did you find pale oil?
When do you get completion % shown in the inventory?
>>538860504Act 1 felt a lot more guided and linear than the previous game was all. That certainly stopped by the end of Act 1 (Having 2 different routes to end the chapter reminded me of picking between deepnest vs city of tears front entrance in HK) and Act 2 opens up tremendously.
>>538863425during act 3
>>538863090inside the entrance with the same sign as the pinmaster in bellhart...he says it's there when you ask him for another upgrade, I don't know how many people are having trouble finding it, it's way easier to get than the kitchen quest too
please tell me the patch i just downloaded didnt nerf bosses or some shit. i am sick of devs "balancing" single player games after casuals cry online. fucking dadgamers, i hate them so much.
>>538863542Just wear the barbed charm and be a real gamer
>>538863534Ah, I thought you were referring to some other oil flask.
>>538863542If you're not even aware of what the patch contains you ARE the casual
>complains about dadgamers>havent beaten the game yetAbsolute dogshit at the game, are we you casual swine?
>>538863683>>538863765just tell me whether it made the game easier in your opinions. i am no that far into the game yet, since i've had limited time to play since release. just bested widow.
>>538864023>since i've had limited time to play since releaseLook at this fucking dadgamer.
>>538864023I already beat the game so I don't really fucking carealso only two early bosses got nerfed so please fuck off
>>538864093does being a casual speak to the amount of time you have to play or your skill/desire to beat a challenge?
I've just beaten Lace 2, it must've been the patch. Thank you, Team Cherry!
>>538864357You literally say you hate the dadgamers (casuals), only to admit that you are one in your next fucking post you imbecile.
>>538864526im saying your definition of casual is flawed.
>>538864898Or you're in denial, casualfag.>guys tell me what to think about the patchnotes pls
what a silly place
>>538788341Reddit bug
man, that high halls gauntlet really fucking sucksalmost first tried it, died at the very last guy, twice, it's so long I'm exhausted and I'm only on my fourth try yet
What's the best place to farm meat for the Huntress?
WHERES THE MOD THAT LETS ME SEE THE HEALTH FOR THIS FAT PIECE OF SHIT
>>538865721it's more than you have there LOL
Maybe it's just a mssive skill issue, but I feel like they've designed the platforming in this game to be as miserable as possible.
>Pilby dies or disappears>Garmond gets voidfucked>Sherma can't dieshit game
>>538865874bro you tried to pogo something on your side, use the fucking double jump
>Talk to little pilgrim enough that they introduce themselves>Do Tyrant but don't trigger the assault (the trigger is walking on the left side of the bench)>Enter act 2>They're gone and don't die>They're not at Pilgrim's rest howeverIs there some other ultra specific thing I have to do in order to ensure their survival or some shit? I have the shop door broken, and the door to the right is also open, but I didn't let the stag beetle escape.
So I'm guessing the boss in the terminus is the final boss and i need to full clear the map to unlock act 3?
>>538866025What double jump?
>>538865874use harpoon, it is literally a better dash
>>538866067Pretty much
>>538865603There's two ways to make it easier. One is to go to the room above it push the cart to enter a hidden space above, do it again next room and then cut down the silk to forever stop the spider bots from spawning anywhere.The other is to get Shakra's last request in Bellhart and finishing it. She'll appear and offer assistance during the fight.
>>538866132You can get there without one? I am surprised. Suffer then.
>>538866132Go explore left of the slab.
The map claims that there is a connection here but I can't find it in the actual fucking room at all. Any advice?
>>538866147That still doesn't excuse how often stuff like that happens.>hit the wall>actually you can't cling onto it because fuck you that's why :DDDThat and doing a jump attack onto an enemy, hitting them and still getting hit or just barely missing, along with clearly hitting an enemy and the hit not connecting.
>>538866291you only need the grapple to get there, I also only got there after double jump because I didn't know those rings meant grapple when I saw them 10 hours before
>>538866420Nevermind, found it, the map is kind of misleading to the position of the opening.
>>538866227I already did the first, but how do I do the second? I haven't explored Bilewater nor Putrified Ducts, is that where I should go?
>>538866494The harpoon always sticks you to the wall, unless you miss, the fuck are you on about?
>>538866494>>hit the wall>>actually you can't cling onto it because fuck you that's why :DDDOnly your sprite did, your hitbox didn't, I am pretty sure it stays rectangular all the time.
>>538866729I was talking about >>538865874
>>538866727Probably.
>>538866812Yes, and you arent using the harpoon, you are dashing, AND MISSING.
>>538866727putrified ducts is a citadel model not shakra so I don't think you need to do it, but might as well since it's way easier than bilewater and won't take long anywayher quest is in bilewater and ends just left of the long hallway to the boss so you'll need to explore almost all of it regardless
>>538819606It really isn't except for one specific angle of pogo where it's terrible. The pogo is both very active and very long range.
>>538867602That is actually interesting lol
>>538856341Am I missing something? Hunter's march didn't really seem that difficult, then again, I explored it towards the end of act 1 when I actually had stuff.
I got this game a few days ago, and I don't mind the hard boss fights, but fuck having to make your way back through a sloth of shitty cannonfodder and a bunch of annoying parkour jumps every single try, That shit's the worst.
>Make a farming quest>Add a chance for the item in question to just not be dropped in the first place
>>538869070try doing it before claw
>>538869381which quest is that? if you're talking about the "spines" then you need to take a closer look
>finish karak platforming nightmare>reward is two different bosses i can't beatt-thanks
Hunters march is nothing.Sinners Road is the true suffering.
Flying enemies are such ass, especially the ones whose AI tells them to move away from you jumping at them like those bell throwers, the harpoon is making them easier though
>>538869520nta but pins in choral halls
>>538869520spines were a cool gimmickthe needle drops from the choral knights weren't 100% drops for some reason. i think the robes were though
>>538869520Pins from the choirbugs in the capital.
>>538869520I saw it in the pins/cloth Citadel quest tooIt's weird because the previous "grab cloth" quest in Bone Bottom had every pilgrim drop cloth
>>538869918The cloth from the capital quest is because you need to kill low ranking capital pilgrims. Choirbugs don't count.
>>538869070It's because a majority of people explore hunter's march as their third area in the game after Moss grotto and the Marrow, when it's realistically supposed to be an area you explore towards the middle or end of act 1. It's enemies are tankier and more complex when compared to the relatively simple enemies in the surrounding areas. Plus it has a lot more pogo platforming than the surrounding locations, which most people don't really have any sort of experience with by that point in the game.
literally just don't explore hunter's march until late act 2, it's harder than the rest of the game so far
>>538788341I don't remember, was there any runbacks in OG HK that were as long as the longest ones in Silksong?
>>538862916>10 hours over the span of two fucking daysThis but with Skarrsnigger Karmelita.Coral tower wasn't too bad for me.
>>538867602Absolute madman
>>538871887Traitor Lord, Crystal Guardian, Marmu if you didn't go further to the bench. But that's all before they added Dreamgate.
>>538871887The Mantis Lords runback was longer than the Last Judge runback, but had less parkour. The Hive Knight runback was literally the entire hive area and takes longer to get through than even the longest silksong runbacks, but was saved by Hive Knight being a relatively easy boss that wont take most people more than 1-3 attempts at most.
>choral>coral
I'd like to see this epic battle.
THIS FIGHT IS SUCH BULLSHIT WHEN DOES HE FUCKING DIE
>>538872729>literally the entire hive areaGoing through the mask shard shortcut reduced the annoyance of that runback by at least 30%. AND Hive Knight was added after the update that added Dreamgate.
>>538871590the only hard part is beastflyit's worth going there early for the skarr merchant, the fractured mask charm is great in act 1
is the cradle the last area?
>>538872859use tools. sting shards (from the forge girl in deep docks) melt it and its summons
>>538873156___no___
>>538873156For the Act 2, yes.
>JUST USE TOOLS BRO>IT MELTS THE BOSS IN 2 SECONDS EVERYTIME BRO SHITS EASYWrong, all the boss healthpools are so FUCKING huge that it does nothing but make them flash white, making their attacks harder to read so they FUCKING combo me for FOUR DAMAGE. Don't even mention -120 shards every attempt.Literally every boss in this game I have had to beat toolless and almost hitless.
>>538871887>was there any runbacks in OG HK that were as long as the longest ones in Silksong?Off the top of my head, Mantis Lords, Soul Master, Hive Knight, and Traitor Lord. Crystal Guardian is also a pretty long runback, but the boss is easy so it's pretty unlikely that you'll die even on your first playthrough.
>>538873573>such a shitter the easiest playstyle is too hard to even grasp
very cool boss team cherryinspiringis the tool good
>>538873573tools deal more damage than the max nail and don't require you to be anywhere near the boss
>>538873573this could all be fixed if they just added a healthbar to bossfights
>>538871590Getting a dash is more than enough to make it tolerable.
>>538873901It does good/decent damage, but makes it really hard to actually pull heals off due to it constantly stealing silk for the projectile.
FUCK THIS STUPID NIGGER BUG HOLY FUCK
when the hell am I supposed to get a double jump .
Guess what this asshole is about to do now that he's fucking flashing you.OOPS, wrong on the 50/50, he's actually tossing the exploding bell.
>>538874214oh my god at least there's a reward>makes pogo impossiblelmao
>>538874214There's another harder version of this boss btw
>>538874358after the grapple
>>538874598Will I be forced to obtain it as some point or is it entirely skippable?
>>538874459what the fuck this shit is terrible>pogo sucks>don't do more damage>less amulet slots>lose your healwhat's the point? my fucking god what a waste of time
>>538874536I've there's an abyss version, where he at?
>>538788341I saw people saying that the Last judge runback was nerfed? What changed about it?
>>538874706you can get bad ending without ever getting double jump
>>538874708You picked a fight with the beastfly — means you enjoy the suffering. And if you enjoy the suffering then it's a perfect crest for you.
>>538874779The sand worms deal less damage now
>>538874754It's part of a quest.
The final boss of act 3 is genuinely one of the best bosses i've ever foughtI'm still not done with the fight but holy shit its so good
How do I restore Blue Bug in Wormways? When I play music, its ghost says it needs more light, there are blue butterflies scattered around, I assume you have somehow get them to him, but I dunno how.
>>538874387If you're that close to Judge after hitting her then you've already made a mistake
>>538875503can someone make a mod to make the environmental threats do 2 damage again
am I actually supposed to fight this turd?
>>538875898just get two whacks and hidehe only drops a beast shard thoughbeit
>>538875898It’s not required. You can chip him to death by jumping up and hitting him in between vomits, but you don’t get a special reward.
>>538875898no, you can skip him if you want but he only takes about 30 hits to kill and you can hit him 2-3 times before hiding under a rock again
>>538875898No, you only have to kill him if you want to complete the hunter's journal.
>>538875898Just let him live, he becomes funny in act 3
>let him liveI even kill the tiny ones every time I go through that room.
new bread?
it's all skover
>>538874387Yeah L.Judge is rough on that. She moves too fast for you to tell if she's gonna throw the bell or spin and still have time to react. I just flinch back every time she moves to be on the safe side.
>spend 2 hours trying to kill the retarded nigger beastfly>the crest fucking sucks>retard my way into the reaper crest (no bossfight either, just a few trash enemies)>its 100x better than the beast crestseriously
>>538878115The beast one is for no-hit runners (which will probably get outclassed by the architect anyways)
ill be trying to get through the slab/ mount fay suing this build, i think it's pretty good
>>538878513I don’t think that you can do levels while in a legal battle with your build.
well that was a nigger move
>>538878312Will it? your binding does no damage so it's a waste of silk.
>>538878713kek
someone bake a new thread
>>538879075I gives your nail better damage and maybe better damage. I would be actually good for normal players if it didn't cap the potential masks you can get back at three>>538881237I'm shy.
>>538881671>>538881671>>538881671
>>538881674You can get 4 with witch multibind but for a no damage run I think witch could do a lot more damage. Of course you have to hit them with your binding.
