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Welcome to the Sonic General! Here we discuss all things Sonic!

/sthg/ #8631 - The Saturday Morning Show Edition

==NEWS==
>Sonic Racing: CrossWorlds - The Animation
https://youtu.be/5ocBa8jTXUA

>Sonic Racing: CrossWorlds - CrossTalk #8 | Silver & Blaze
https://youtu.be/CNZgW0480go

>TailsTube #13 - Pit Crew
https://youtu.be/GiYfo0Wy2NA

>Sonic Racing: CrossWorlds | Competition Trailer
ENG: https://youtu.be/1nIhfo2X0oI
JPN: https://youtu.be/BVoDsexw0NM

>New card game Sonic Blitz released download here.
https://rentry.org/sthglinks#sonic-blitz-apk

>Sonic Rumble Global Launch Delayed
https://sonicrumble.com/GLDelay

>Paramount Developing Sonic Movie Spin-Offs
https://comicbook.com/gaming/news/sonic-the-hedgehog-spin-off-movies-report-paramount/

>Sonic the Hedgehog 4 will be released on March 19, 2027
https://variety.com/2025/film/news/sonic-4-release-date-march-2027-1236280697/

==Comics Release Dates==
Sonic the Hedgehog: Chaotix's 30th Anniversary Special - 22 October 2025
Sonic the Hedgehog #82 - 5 November 2025
Sonic the Hedgehog #83 - 26 November 2025
Sonic the Hedgehog: Chasing Shadows - 04 Mar 2026

==GENERAL INTEREST LINKS==
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>/sthg/ OP template:
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>Milestone pastebin:
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>Sonic Game/Mod Recommendation Spreadsheet:
https://rentry.org/sthglinks#sonic-gamemod-recommendation-spreadsheet
>Perfect System Collection:
https://rentry.org/sthglinks#perfect-system-collection
>Sonic comic scans:
https://grabber.zone
https://tails.kicks-ass.net/

>/sthg/ booru:
https://sthg.booru.org/
>/sthg/ OC info:
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>/sthg/ cytube:
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IDW will totally be cancelled ANY day now!
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>Mobius
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FIRST
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Kys
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Gay sex with villains as a form of redemption
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>>538795862
Because you haven't died yet anon that means you will never die.
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>’AWW YEAH, THIS IS HAPPENING!’ the thought rushes through my head as I plow through my bubblegum pink gal pal
>With each union of hips, my excitement rises. Electricity surges as I show her who’s the boss of her with my electric strap-on, because it’s definitely not that blue rat.
>My palm brushes across her pretty peach muzzle. So cute.
>Wait, what the sparks? Why is she crying?
>Mood’s killed, I stop and pull out.
>I wipe the tears off her face, trying to anyways. Her palms rise to bury them.
>”Talk to me.”
>”W-Well, it’s just…”
>”What?”
>”I-I w-wish I was doing it with Sonic… It’s not that you’re not nice, Surge, it’s that… my heart still longs for him.”
>I roll my eyes. What a brat.
>Doesn’t she understand he’ll never love her?
>That smoking blue rat wouldn’t know beauty if it charged him with an electric fist.
>Not like I’d know, heh.
>”What did we talk about last time?” I reminded her as I stroked my finger across her neck, prickling her with electricity
>”T-That he’ll never love me because h-he’s a heartless jerk, like the fart.”
>I brought my fist to her bust, striking her with a truck ton of shocking lightning
>”That’s right. Now stop living in the past.”
>She whimpers like a whore, her body jittering in the aftershock, and deliriously nods her head, brushing away the tears.
>”Now let me make you feel good, you goddamn slut.”
>Because that’s what heroes do.
>Relish in the spotlight.
>After all, what would that 'wind'y prick know about real heroism? He's the one neglecting this damsel...
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Is it possible for windfags and satamfags to truly get along
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>>538795862
I hate how Cal Arts this Sonic looks. Head is too big. Body is too small.
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I love Shadria! Shadria is canon!
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>>538796031
Violet and Pariah proves this is possible.
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>>538795989
I drank the vilcatour of immortality you pathetic human
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>>538795726
>Sally pic
you needed to he one of those guys aren't you.
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SatAM and Archie are kino
90s American Sonic is kino
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>>538796134
this entire sentence is chaos from beginning to end
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Now that people love Silver, Year of Silver when?
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>>538796203
Twitter tards are not people, and hopefully never
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>>538796031
Yes. Sonic was windy right in the pilot episode. He was fairly windy in general until Archie's Endgame arc which was supposed to end the series and close out several character arcs.
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>>538795862
Wow, nothing has changed in the slightest on this place.
Hell, idw dying was a meme even before they started publishing sonic.
Since 2010.
Fuck this place.
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>>538796031
Richmunk doesnt represent SatAM fags; Twitter doesnt represent windfags. Sonic fans can be normal and understand they have preferences. Comic fans are already used to different interpretations, so will Sonic.
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>>538796301
You have given me hope for humanity
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>>538796097
Dogfucking ship for lonely women
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>>538795726
>OP's pic
Good way to ruin an entire thread.
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>>538796231
This all could have been avoided if gender deluded people were put in psychiatric wards desu.
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The second Infinite fight was kinda hard to S rank
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>>538795992
>”Now let me make you feel good, you goddamn slut.”
>Because that’s what heroes do.
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>>538795862
I get the impression the first one is ZealousFox.
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Have a lovely evening, /sthg/. I hope today has been kind to you.
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>>538796329
>>538795862
Are we destined to repeat the same shit, for literal years? My god.
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>>538796231
Sonic says: what if we just shut down politics for like five years and reset everyone in positions of power maybe that would calm down the heat
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There was a solid two years here where Sally could be posted without causing thread incident. But if Sonally is posted people get uppity. Is this a Sonamy thing?
I understand, fully, that the pairing of Sonally wouldn't work in the games. I'm not asking about that. I'm asking specifically if it's Sonamyfags who get mad.
People say it's the windfags but in my experience they're indifferent about who you ship Sonic with as long as you don't try and argue it with them.
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>>538796454
It's not dogfucking any more than fucking Amy.
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>>538795862
IDW is coasting on fumes
It's only a matter of time
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>>538796626
That's why Sonamyfags are the laughing stock of the fandom nowadays. It's funny.
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>>538796626
SonAmy have always been insecure, yes.
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That's abuse
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>>538796626
>if it's Sonamyfags who get mad.
yes.
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>>538796730
It has been almost a decade. Desist with the coping.
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>>538796626
>People say it's the windfags but in my experience they're indifferent about who you ship Sonic with as long as you don't try and argue it with them.
Easy way to check if this is true. No windfag has ever been up in arms about Sonurge because Sonurge has never been used to argue with windfags. Therefore they do not care about it. Sonamyfags are the ones who feel threatened by ships.
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SILVER: THE LAST HOPE OF MOBIUS
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>>538796626
Sonamy gets an insane amout of hate for no reason, it's like if people got mad for shipping Mickey and Minnie
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>>538796934
he's GAY!
he's a QUEER!
he's a SISSY!
he BITES THE PILLOW!
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>>538796983
Probably the same deal. Sonamy's very existence means any other ship has really no chance in the game canon. While there's some ambiguity about how Sonic feels about Amy, there is no ambiguity about how Amy feels about Sonic. She will not go for Shadow or Tails or Knuckles. Sonic will not suddenly decide he likes some other girl either.
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Smokerlin
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>>538796931
you are so cringe
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>>538796983
The people who like it go above and beyond with their autism. Doesn't help that 2000s Amy was hated by 80% of the autists that make up the Sonic fanbase.
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>>538797128
Sonic is already handling Rouge’s curves
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IDW will never go out of business no matter how much money it loses.
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>>538796203
No one is ever getting a year, Luigi couldn't and Shadow had a Hollywood movie and a repeat of SA2, what makes you think anyone has a chance?
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>>538796294
Rude.
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>>538797082
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4XJxBnfgm38
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If Lanolin was a main character you guys would scream that they made her a girlboss for no reason
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Douge
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Hopefully this rallying would convince SEGA that maybe writing Silver well is not a bad idea
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>>538797380
Silver's parents
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i still like shadally
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>>538797454
Silver's great great great great great great grandparents.
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>>538797425
Writing anyone well is a good idea, but they don’t do it for anyone. Silver is low on the list of priorities
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>>538795958
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>>538797457
I nutted to her today and it was refreshing after mainly gooning to Rouge and Blaze
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¡Te atraparé!
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>>538797457
I know this is her mom but it always annoyed me that once Yardley/Ian came along they stopped drawing Sally with bedroom eyes.
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I've found this general boring, nobody discusses CrossWorlds or talks about interesting stuff
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what if Rumble is really fucking fun
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>>538797769
https://files.catbox.moe/o9vdt2.jpeg
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>>538797884
Crossworlds is not interesting bucko
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>>538796898
IDW can lose as much money and never go under.r
Ignore the stock price and the lay off of 40% of the work force.
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>>538797884
We like shipping here
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>>538795862
Why did we even like the IDW comics again?
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>>538796626
This is not a shipper shit anon, sally is disliked for a lot of facts
1. She comes from a really ugly dic American cartoon
2. She's the embodiment of a classic furry character
3. She's naked in design, an actual sega rule involving female characters.
4. Sallyfags along with Amyfags started the worst internet shipping war ever created.
5. She's not necessary as a love interest anymore, by the fact amy exist.
6. The entire archie dark ages depiction of her.
7. The Karl bollers slap.
8. She's an actual magnet of literal psychos, deviant, furries and misfits
9. The Worst shitposter we have were sallyfags
10. Richard kuta being associated with her, damaged her reputation even more.
11. Satamfags and archie fags actually think shes a well rounded character, when she's just a character with many 90's cliches plastered in one being involving girl power.
12. Fandom made her gay for a stupid bandwagon
13. She actually has an actual cool modern sonic design that actually look like a sonic character, but her fans, are obsessed with her being a classic furry.
13. Satam fags genuinely think satam should he the game canon.
14. 99% of the archie girls were superior to her, in every way, she was the main girl for plot reasons.

Want the truth? I like her but her fans know how to ruin her real bad.
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>>538798017
Nta has the boycommissioner gotten anything new?
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>>538798052
It is but you didn't play it.
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>>538798217
I did, it was okay
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>>538798145
I'm still hoping for someone to run with Sally's satam personality but with her fixed Reboot design. Maybe chronicfag.
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>>538798182
https://files.catbox.moe/7gyuut.jpeg
And
https://files.catbox.moe/o0alnp.jpeg
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>>538798145
He literally said posting Sally is alright but posting sonally makes some posters go batshit. it is 100% shipper shit if anything
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>>538798145
Spitting facts anon, sally is not the problem, her fandom is.
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>>538798145
>t. Amyfag
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>>538798142
It reestablished the OTP.
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Sonic Generations is the best boost game. The 2D sections just suck.
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>>538798017
Is sucking on a big hard throbbing cock really that good? Is zavukbros around?
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>>538798340
this
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>>538798145
Well, thats a good resume
Yuck, The original shipping Wars, I still have ptsd, on that topic. Crazy fans has been a thing since the early 2000's
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>>538798145
>Sallyfags along with Amyfags started the worst internet shipping war ever created.
Mistyfags vs Serenafags straight up got Serena kicked out of the fucking show out of fear of death threats
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>>538798338
Gay sex kinda hot ngl
>old fat and ugly mobian
Why?
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Gay sex would have been nice if men had cocks like Zavuk
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>>538798145
>wah there's conflict.
Who cares?
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>>538798142
Tangle makes me hard and ABT's Lanolin
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>>538796601
It has. I do hope Amy realizes that smoking is bad for her and stops doing these bad habits in an IP aimed at children.
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>>538798750
>old fat and ugly mobian
>Why?
He isnt ugly and fat, he's just built that way
Why? It's hot that way
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>>538798145
I will always be mad about the fandom making sally and nicole gay, because reasons, fuck.
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>>538798421
The best boost game is Sonic Rush Adventure.

>The 2D sections just suck.
That's most of the game.
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>>538798714
You think shipping fans have actual power on the show.? Nah man.
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>>538798182
>>538798338
Why he didn’t commission someone who is actually good like Iiimirai or KrazyElf?
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>>538799005
>You think shipping fans have actual power on the show.? Nah man.
The teraleak confirmed this to be the case.
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>>538798769
post it
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>>538798145
Her archie brother is cooler than her. Elias was great.
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>>538798338
Conductor and... someone?
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>>538799005
Serena's final appearance in the pokemon anime had a running gag preventing her from interacting with Ash. A year after that, emails between the directors confirmed it was because the writers didn't want to get harassed by angry shippers.
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>>538797884
Thats because all the goodposters either left for /v/ and fast or they just mostly lurk in these threads and post once in a blue moon when news drops.
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>>538799095
>The teraleak confirmed this to be the case
What's that? tell me more please, is a Pokémon thing or a sonic thing.
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>>538799181
Post what
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>>538797884
I'm playing Forces we can talk about that if you want
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>>538796231
Have any of the IDW staff been stupid enough to talk about this?
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>>538799334
>>538799282
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>>538799335
Sonic porn
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>>538799225
Imagine if Sally had died like Penders intended, only to introduce Elias afterwards anyway.
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>>538799402
Zavok porn?
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TOUCH MY PINGAS
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>>538799282
Man, ash not winning the girl that had actual interest in him, got sabotaged by hardcore shipping autistic people?
For real thats outrageous.
And I say this as an olfag original Pokémon anime fan.
Ash getting the girl was the only thing left, damn. Too bad about Serena.
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>>538799609
Now THIS is a windship
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>>538799442
No I'm not gay
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what would it be like?
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>>538799609
DON'T LOOK AT HER RIGHT LEG
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>>538799406
It could have saved us from a lot of shipping archie drama, the only good thing penders could have done, and it was blocked.
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>>538799275
Falke Wulf
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>>538799764
Sonic and friends beheading idw ocs
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>>538799843
>>538799406
I firmly disagree with this. I do like Sally but I don't think that bias has anything to do with it. Archie would have become a romance drama series with or without Sally's continued presence in the comic. The only thing that would have improved is SALLY's reputation as a character being saved from the insane mischaracterization she suffered later. Sonic would still become controversial for being so involved with romance. The rest of the girls would still be all over him if not moreso. Amy would still be blocked from dating him due to her age which would remain a sore spot for Amy fans and a large reason why they don't like Archie.
Furthermore, I'm pretty sure the reason she was brought back wasn't out of any particular love but because Penders didn't have the authority to permanently kill off a Sega owned character onscreen in a comic aimed at children.
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Momentumfags don't understand Sonic.
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>>538765995
Deadly Ball is a finished story completely. Either you are being dishonest or you got filtered by the formatting being more heavily built around showing you panel by panel.
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>>538799843
>No relationship drama
Yay.
>Sally's not there to stop Amadeus and Elias fighting
House of Cards could've ended up like Archie's metal virus.
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>>538799406
>Sally dies
>Elias is introduced
>Elias inherits Nicole
>Sally's secret project.bin
>Nicole's hologram avatar
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>>538798145
You want a funny fact? Amy and Sally were really good friends in archie, Sally blocked amy on adventures at the time, because she didn't want her to get hurt when she was a child.
While amy, was fine about sally dating sonic, because in the end she was convinced, she will be girl winning his heart.
Heck we even have a panel of amy being disappointed how people saw her as a petty superficial girl for the same reason.
So shipping Wars were pointless in the first place.
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>>538800329
I think people are being naive if they think Sally caused the romance drama (There was literally none in Satam) and not the inverse. Sally and Sonic both having their personalities warped to make the comic more dramatic as a way to force engagement from readers who were there for romance.
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>>538800141
That is because no one here actually seriously wants to read fanfics. The only people complaining just want namefag drama.
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>>538800434
only good post in this discussion. as short as it is.
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KNOCK-KNOCK!
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>>538798826
This picture with a transparent background looks really nice but is also silly since without the smoking she looks like she is doing a weird hand gesture...
This is also the second time I seen this picture but only now I realized the tiny edit in the drink...
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>>538800396
>So shipping Wars were pointless in the first place.
I can tell you don't spend a lot of time talking to gamefags because Amy tolerating Sally's existence is a level of patience that is just plain ubelievable for Amy's 2000s personality.
When Archie Amy was being mature and realistic about it, game Amy (The one Amy fans infinitely prefer) was seething every time Rouge so much as looked in Sonic's general direction.
If you presented an Amyfag with this information they would simply call the comic OOC and the beginning of Ian Flynn destroying Amy's character.
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>>538800387
>Nicole and Elias swap bodies during stargazing arc
>Nicole's pines over Elias
>Elias fucks off somewhere for months only to return with a pregnant squirrel with her
>Nicole learns heartache, jealousy and (hopefully) how to let go
>Elias only married Meghan to stop his father pestering him over heirs
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Satam objectively had less romance content per capita than Sonic X. The only thing it really had was (two) smooching scenes. People misremember Sally as the source of romance when Archie and every comic published under the Archie brand as a whole was heavily focused on teen romance.
There is no scenario where Archie's Sonic the Hedgehog is not a romance dram.
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>>538800656
THE CAUCASITY OF THIS BITCH
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>>538800831
>There is no scenario where Archie's Sonic the Hedgehog is not a romance dram.
What about Reboot?
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Did Sonic get his chili dog sucked?
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>>538800837
I MISS MY WIFE
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Bun!
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>>538800920
I wouldn't consider Reboot a counter example specifically because it is the result of the company who owns the character Sonic telling Archie not to do what Archie does with every brand.
It's too little too late.
It's the exception to the rule because it was forced upon it.
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>>538800969
No. But he could if he wanted.
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>>538800969
Other way around actually
https://files.catbox.moe/j4rjmx.jpeg
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>>538800920
You mean the thing that happened ten years after the slap that was the result of sonic chronicles forcing sonic team's attention onto archie and making them tell Ian point blank that he had to kill Sonic's relationship with Sally (this was before the reboot) leading to Ian's newfangled mecha Sally arc?
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>>538801024
butt!
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>>538800920
what is Relic
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>>538800396
That's just a bad compromise because Archie writers never liked Amy and turned her into an irrelevant secondary character. She didn't have to be patronized like that
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>>538800920
Reboot Sally is literally a response to Archie turning Sally into a romance drama character. She would have turned out completely different otherwise. She's more in-character than pre-reboot Sally except for being completely sexless.
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What is a shadow
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>>538801345
>except for being completely sexless
Then she's completely ooc
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>>538800396
Sally and Amy's friendship literally requires Amy to be OOC. Amy had an actual canon mental breakdown over the ASSUMPTION that Rouge was interested in Sonic.
>>538801446
You aren't wrong kek
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>>538801510
Archie Amy is grown up Classic Amy, not modern Amy.
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>>538800675
People really need to understand archie was his own thing with his own worldbuilding and was extremely different from the games, as you said, characters behaved different, but it was the same at the time with Fleetway and the shogakukan manga, but no one bated an eye for those, hell the shogakukan manga had an artist who changed official designs just because.
Heck the funny gag sonic manga portayed sonic and shadow as retards but it was fine because it was Japanese media.
Comparing the games with aosth, satam, fleetway, underground, shogakukan, the gag manga and archie is dumb because none of that media are like the games at all, but people think all sonic media needs to be copy and paste, that's why we have alternate dimensions.
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>>538801173
Amy a cute!
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>>538801593
I understand that/ I was explaining why the fact that Sally and Amy are friends within the context of Archie did absolutely nothing to prevent Amy fans from hating Sally
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>>538800396
>Heck we even have a panel of amy being disappointed how people saw her as a petty superficial girl for the same reason.
I wish more people remembered that panel.
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>>538800396
>>538801772
Imagine Chichi being okay with Goku fucking Bulma and Vados. That's what Archie Amy looks like to Amyfags.
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>>538801650
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>>538801510
What's up with Amy's mouth here? She looks like she has an underbite.
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>>538801907
Amy has an underbite in all Sonic boom media. Now you'll never unsee it.
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>>538801772
Archie amy was a true one.
She was funny as fuck when she tagged along with blaze, marine and cream too.
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>>538801593
Archie deserves the flack it receives for poorly depicting and in some ways disrespecting characterizations of official Sega characters. It's one thing to do its own spin and ideas and another to be a bad product at representing the franchise you're supposed to be a licensed comic of
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>>538801391
a miserable pile of secrets
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>>538801813
Amy wasn't a possessive freak until later.
Archie's Amy was based on Classic Amy who wasn't known for being a possessive freak. Classic Amy was a sweet girl who believed her destiny was to be with Sonic.
Archie Amy is canonically the same age as Tails and she only visually resembles modern Amy thanks to magic (excuse for brand design cohesion).
Archie Amy's friendship with Sally is not OOC for Classic Amy.
Modern Amyfags expecting a divergent take based on a functionally different character (Classic Amy) is disingenuous at best.
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>>538801593
Archie should have just been "SatAM but Sonic is in character" now it's remembered as the weird rape comic where nobody was in character and is only used as stripmining content for everythingfags like Sonic Underground
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>>538801391
A boring shitdow
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>>538801013
>>538800837
wtf wrong one
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>>538801391
Sally's emotionless cum dispenser
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>>538801178
>Knuckles could had a waifu fight
>relic had interest in him
>relic was killed when the book died.
Man, we can never have nice things
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>>538802313
IDW Relic was almost Sticks
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>>538802268
Blobian boys should be allowed to wear pants more
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>>538802149
Can't say I disagree
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>>538801510
Rouge is a toxic cunt.
Of course the Sonic characters would have a realistic depiction of human relationships: toxic and sexually charged.
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I don't think windfags inherently get along with Sonamyfags. Sonamyfags have just adapted to windfags by appropriating their arguments to attack other pairings.
If Sally did not exist, windfags would be outright intolerant of Amyfags and they would be directly at odds. Change my mind.
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>>538802015
Archie quality is another matter, while I agree on that Rollercoaster, the topic is how people expect alternate dimensions to be a copy/paste from the games.
While shippers got mad, because characters behaved different from the main universe.
Sonic is different in every dimension, but people still take amy as a main example for shipping reasons.
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>>538800659
Fine. Here's something to make the gesture a little less silly.
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>>538802434
I can't remember who was created first.
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>>538802441
I know it makes no sense
>females: internal organs
>males:external organs
we gotta cover up the males HELLLOOOO?????
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>>538802804
... Fine, I'll take the 4kids version.
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>>538792598
>People miss it nowadays, but real oldfags hated Rouge's 60 year old smoker 4kids actress. The modern actress is more similar to what Rouge originally sounded in Adventure 2, she used to have a younger voice.
She's been kinda degrading though. Current Rouge started off strong with Generations and Free Riders, but sometime after Forces her voice started really getting strained. There was a guy who pointed it out and now that I see it, I can't not notice it. (Link is timestamped to skip ahead):
https://youtu.be/hQfxAJKAXXo?t=318
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>>538802982
Bueno. Now I can get back to this quota.
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>>538801683
Of people take Archie out of context, of course it's gonna look like that.
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>>538802804
kek
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Damn my bad, this reply >>538803148 was meant to >>538801813
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>>538802835
Relic the Pika debut:
>Archie Sonic Universe 63: 14 May 2014
Sticks the Badger debut:
>Archie Sonic Boom 1: 29 October 2014
Oh shit, Relic was first.
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>>538803107
That's you toying with (me) instead... I really love this one!! As always be sure to take it easy, cutoutanon. You always make my days a little nicer. But I am way to exhausted so I am taking my leave. Goodnight!
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>looking at rule 34 Vanilla art
>One of the most recent is created by Duofag
>Uploader: Charlie Kirk
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>>538803583
Patriqts..
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>>538803115
>sonic canonically hate guns
>he use them on smash
>he use them in fleetway
>no one cares by the fact the European comic artstyle filters are lot of people.
>fleetway was even more schizowacky than archie
>No one tried to read it, so no one cares
Fleetwood was a roller-coaster of a read.
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Sonamy is windpilled
https://files.catbox.moe/pvmd1b.mp4
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>>538803818
If Dimitri could shut up about troons for 20 fucking minutes this video could have saved the Sonic fandom from IDWfags
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>>538802149
Classic amy, was cuteness and kindness incarnate, her idw special was really cute.
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>>538803876
This
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>>538803876
He didn't really talk about them. He just posted this image while talking about people using Sonic to talk about politics
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>>538803932
Troons cause as much seethe as they themselves seethe.
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>>538804004
He's referring to the Bridget Guilty Gear incident. It made him public enemy #1.
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>>538804004
You know damn well that this did nothing to help the video except give IDWfags an excuse to claim that the entire video is agenda driven. l
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>>538804081
What?
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>>538804151
If it's that then yeah I see where he's coming from
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>>538803791
Sonic doesn't hate guns, he just thinks they're useless and doesn't see the point in using them.
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Tails is cute ^-^
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>>538803550
Good night Amyposter.
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>>538804004
It's about the-
>>538804151
Thanks
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>>538804249
He's faster than any bullet so it makes sense.
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>>538804151
Frankly, that video is what made me actually consider him alright for an e-celeb. No one else (who isn't anonymous) is willing to acknowledge the blatant retcon for what it is, the cowardly fucks. I respect him immensely for calling it out.
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>>538804151
God that was bad. Especially with Guilty Gear apparently bending the knee on the topic and ruining the entire discussion forever.
There's a female video essayist who makes similar points without going into politics by arguing that it's toxic for people to insinuate that being in love makes women weak. I've seen that point being made by more and more women online too.
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Sonic & Tails
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>>538795862
idw its unironically on their last year now by the way
its not ssonic fault but the company a a whole
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>>538804717
Bros
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>>538804384
Actually, while I agree with the nature of his points, I think he made a severe logical flub in that video.
His issue is that accepting that Bridget is trans actually ends up confirming a "Trans grooming" narrative within the context of guiilty gear.
He argues that trans people "Shouldn't even like this" because it helps spread the narrative that their goal is to make kids become trans. That they are being logically inconsistent by supporting this story in the game.

That's where his argument falls on its face. As irrational as your opposition is you should never simply assume that they didn't consider that on their own, or that they're reading things through the same metric.
Perhaps those people read the story as someone accepting the person that abuse turned them into. Perhaps those people do not believe there is any weight to the concept of "trans grooming" and therefore do not consider it. Perhaps those people are actually on board with the subject of raising kids to be trains in the first place and will not yield to that argument. There is simply no such tranny on this earth who would have seen that video and had their views on the subject changed because he imagines some fictitious person who did not consider that blindingly obvious reading of Bridget's story.

That is to say, they do not care.
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>>538803791
>>fleetway was even more schizowacky than archie
>>No one tried to read it, so no one cares
Yeah, Fleetwood was like a fever dream, it had a lot of surreal situations.
As Archie, some characters were worth saving, like tekno, short use, fleetway sally and ebony.
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>>538804747
Yay
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>>538804745
It's been literal years anon, idw as a meme is a 2010 joke, its 2025.
15 years have passed.
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>>538796203
i jut want SEGA to care about the lil dude and if a movie is needed down the line so be it
i am glad people see him as cool again at least
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>>538804747
Best bros
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>>538804151
His opinions weren't very good even before this video tbhfr
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>>538803034
That's the tragedy of the normalfag: they always assume good faith in ideologies professing" acceptance" as a goal even when the evidence stares them in the face that it's only a pretense. That's why sociopaths are able to exploit others, humans are seemingly hardwired to always give the benefit of the doubt whenever possible.
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>>538804771
Whats up with this franchise and green birds? Jet, tekno, bean, speedy.
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>>538800085
>Amy would still be blocked from dating him due to her age
Bollers planned to pair them together, actually.
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>>538803034
>uploader
isn't that the fat fetish sally guy who makes fat fetish sally content aimed at kids
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>>538805069
meant for >>538804763
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>>538804747
Brooooooooooooooos
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>>538800396
SatAM Sally and IC Amy would not get along AT ALL.
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>bestie
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>>538804920
https://bleedingcool.com/comics/idw-publishing-states-they-will-definitely-be-around-for-another-year/
they legit are fucked after they lost transformers and their new ip-tv adaptation plan failed hard
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>>538801593
Archie gets heat because its fans will call other continuities inferior and want the games to be more like it. in other words, Archie fans didn't stay in their lane like the others.
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>>538805069
Totally correct
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>>538804297
hey cutout anon, there was an anon earlier asking for the download link for all the cutout pictures you've done so far. Are you able to post it again?
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Cute cute cute
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>>538805271
The neverfags will bestie allegations beat Amy.
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>>538805374
>their new ip-tv adaptation plan failed hard
They tried to pull a Riverdale like Archie did? Did IDW even HAVE non-licensed IPs?
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Anon, close the browser right now!
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>>538798714
>Ash could have started a relationship with Serena, the only pokegirl, that actually was in love with him
>she even was the only girl that actually kissed him on the lips.
>her whole thing was how she started to be on contest to be on the same level of his husbando, while she started to doll herself up for him.
>crazy shippers ruined the only situation where ash could have grown as a character
>even the yokai watch guy, scored her girl.
Fuck, why this is getting me so mad, im not particular fan of Serena, but a girl winning the ashbowl was historic.
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>>538805635
Dingo is for Sonia
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The Diamond Cutters should be reformed, but without Lanolin. What kind of characters should be used or created to refill it?
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>>538805814
Remove the sheep beeps and I no longer care about that whole group
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>>538805664
What did you say?
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>>538805374
Idw had tv plans? Besides beneath the trees where nobody sees, I don't know shit about their original ips.
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if sally gets hate is because archiefags as a whole got utterly bad before cancelation and were begging the games to be like archie + introduce the Freedom fighters to the games
They got humbled after the cancelation but some of them grow with hate and spite after they were never consider "part" of mainline.
Its why some people seethe at OOC or even get mad that /sthg/ likes STC and other continuitie over archie.
i remeber a sallyfag wishing frontiers to flop so the franchise finally could die.
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>>538805814
Tangle and whisper are the one that needs to be removed.
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>>538805902
Younger fans don't remember that in the 2000s it was becoming cool to hate the games, Sonic X was hated for having a bad dub, and Archiefags were jumping on that bandwagon
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>>538805860
/sthg/ is a failure, cut the power right now
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>>538805271
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>>538805378
Hating the crazy fandom is fine, hating the book is another matter.
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>>538805670
I think this kind of backlash is inevitable if you introduce a love interest fifteen years into a fandom with a decade of shipperfags already
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>>538806045
What's wrong with you?
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>>538806194
It worked for Evangelion.
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>Raiden
>AI
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>>538806041
I remember how arrogant Archiefags were during the 2010s. They would barge into game discussion or comments to shit on the games and/or say how much better their comic was, unprovoked.
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Whisper’s juices in my face
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>>538806194
I feel like this is why Knuckles x Ariem never really took off
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Tails!
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>>538806383
What I remember from Evangelion is two girls who were awful choices for the lead male for different reasons
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https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/515598300/#515598300
Krack on /pol/
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>>538806646
That is exactly why
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>>538806120
When people hate a group of fans, they'll shit on the content they like to trigger them even if they have no real extreme opinion on it.
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>>538806383
Mistys aggression was played entirely for laughs while Asuka was an intentionally toxic deconstructing of the trope.
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>>538806646
It's either Rouge or Shade. No other options.
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>>538806663
Best boy
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>>538806194
Shipperfags are wrong because none of those girls had actual interest on ash, besides some shipping bait situations maybe misty in the second movie.
May was interested in drew, while dawn had her childhood friend head over heels for her, the rest were just actual friends.
>>538806383
Im pretty sure people seethe over that, but in evangelion particular case, it was the best scenario we could ever had.
>>538806528
Shitposters don't make a whole fandom anon.
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>>538806069
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>>538806646
Knuxriem is working with as many crumbs as any straight Silver ship that isn't Silvaze. Do people even know the ship, let alone Ariem, exists?
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>>538806824
I actually liked Shade and would have prefered her but we all know what happened with chronicles and that resulted in her being retconed and vaulted forever
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>>538806858
Shipperfags are always wrong
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>>538805498
That anon should look in the archives or ask Whisper. I believe she saw it.
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No matter what you ship you're better off than Taiora
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>>538806646
I think the real thing about no one knowing ariem is interested in knuckles is the fact about dream team being locked on apple devices.
Everyone wanted to play that game, bit only 10% of the fandom did it, while sega, thought everyone would have an apple device.
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>>538807094
Since Knuckles is incapable of flirting properly I have to assume Shade would have awkwardly tries to act feminine around him in the sequel.
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>>538806689
Krack is objectively based and too good.
FUCK TRANNIES! Best girl. I want to give her hugs and headpats.
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>>538806383
people legit wanted anno head after the movie was out
like makes perfect sense why shinji and mari are the last ones in the end but people legit only focused on shipping and didnt see the bigger picture
If you go to /a/ and post about rebuild hell incarnate will appear , hell if you try to talk about eva shit goes out control quick
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>>538807306
>Everyone wanted to play that game, bit only 10% of the fandom did it, while sega, thought everyone would have an apple device.
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>>538807306
Rouge is loosing her mojo
Pic related is cool, even if lanolinxshadow doesn't make sense at all.
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>>538806383
No it didn't. Their shipping wars make us look sane.
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>>538807498
The problem with Ariem is her proportions. She is the same height as everyone else and has a small head. Everyone assumes she's tall.
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Chad medabots letting the player decide which ship is canon
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>>538806689
>>538807419
I wonder what the underage queers at r/Sonicthehedgehog think about Junichi's tweets
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When is the swimsuit game?
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>>538807906
The... swimsuit game?
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Hey thread. I haven't played a Sonic game since the one with Super Saiyan Shadow and Sonic back on Gamecube.

What would be a good newer game to try? Preferably on the Switch 2. Frontiers? The new Shadow one? Curious about trying one out.
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>>538806646
>>538807306
Sonic Dream team have the best sonic intro a sonic game could ever had, only sonic unleashed is a worthy opponent.
Fight me!

https://youtu.be/rii-OEBog9A?feature=shared
>>538807440
Kek, corporations and developers sometimes can be really stupid.
>>538807698
My only problem woth her are her rayman hands and her minimalistic feet, her characters early drafts had cute shoes for her.
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>>538807982
those two are fine yep
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holy shit the 2006 models are fucking garbage did people actually like this trash
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>>538808150
Some people probably do
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>>538808150
No, thats the whole reason 2006 almost nuked this franchise.
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Modern skating vs. Modified SA2
https://files.catbox.moe/t1r7ft.mp4
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>>538808150
literally what is wrong
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>>538808150
06's graphics were one many things the game was hated for
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>>538808150
i did but i'm a minority
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>>538807306
>>538807440
Is even sadder, because sonic dream team stills updates nowadays. The game is not entirely dead yet.
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>>538807094
If Shade didn't get vaulted Shadowfags would have tried to steal her as a love interest
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>>538807982
Both are actually good games, and you will have fun if you're a sonic lore fag.
Frontiers was the game that brought back almost all sonic lore, while shadow generations is great as a game.
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>>538808150
One of my favorites if you anime them good
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>>538808354
Someone should mention porting Dream Team to Steam in one of those occasional surveys Sega does.
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>>538808150
They were done dirty by horrid animation, the models themselves aren’t that bad and I’d even take them over the current models
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>>538808150
You see an ugly freak.
I see a pink rat I would impregnate without hesitation.
We are not the same.
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>>538808012
Man Ariem is a cutie, I love dream team intro.
>>538808550
I wish it was possible, but I heard the game is destined to be forever locked thanks to apple exclusivity.
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>>538808150
The main character models look fine.
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>>538808150
People shit on them but proyect p-06 showed us the models were great when someone is actually trying to animate them right.
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>>538808445
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>>538805271
Amyfags will never beat the besties allegations.
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>>538808938
GET OUT
GET OUT
GET OUT
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06 biggest problem is that the cutscenes are motion captured
The models are unironically great
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>>538809113
SA2's cutscenes used motion capture too
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FUCKING CAN'T STAND SHADOWFAGS
CAN'T LET KNUCKLES HAVE ANYTHING
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>>538809014
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>>538809205
Shadow wins every time
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>>538809217
This is genuinely insulting. She was openly designed for Knuckles. Shadow wouldn't even approach her. This ship's name wouldn't even make sense.
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SHADOW FUCKS YOUR WIVES
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>>538808938
Behold
Shade
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>>538808542
>>538808150
>>538808740
>>538808861
I always wondered what could have been for sonic as a franchise, if the game was actually finished, and became an actual success, nowadays whe laugh about it, but that game was extremely expected from everyone, even by normalfags.
We already know 2006 was a canon event but imagine what could've happened in the best scenario.
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>>538809367
>NOTHING LEFT TO LOSE
>YOU WIIIIIIN
>BOW YOUR HEADS DOWN ALL HAIL CHADOW
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>>538809367
>1) Shadow
>2) Sonic
>3) Jet
>4) Tails
>5) Cream
Nice, glad I contributed
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>>538809217
Of course the Shadowfags tried to steal a character that never fucking spoke to him
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>>538809579
>>538809678
The adventure gameplay style would still be used, as the standard.
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>>538809678
That was never going to happen. Sonic Team was always focusing on all the characters at the time, and the side games barely had Shadow in them, while in Heroes he was just one of the many characters
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Shadowfags are fucking obese with how well they eat and they still try to deny that they have it good. His success is wasted on them
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twitter tier discussion
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Sonic is boring me. There’s nothing to play.

I’m switching to Mario.
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>>538809579
Silver would be on the same level of respect of sonic and shadow, even becoming a main character like them, instead of being another secondary character on the cheerleader squad.
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Shadowfags are probably going to start shipping him with ariem next. They can't possibly make their own girls for him. It always has to be Knuckles's girls.
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>>538809895
I guess we’ll never know
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Talk about something besides shipping and failed characters like SHITails and Potentialver.
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>>538810042
Thank fuck this didn’t happen
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>>538810196
Silver got no rizz
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>>538809579
Pic related would make more sense.
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>>538810196
I'M GOING TO SUCK YOUR COCK
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>>538810196
Tails was already successful before you were born lil nigga
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>>538810323
Someone stop this menace.
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>>538810319
>Mobius
so you're telling me this stars Uwuver and Gold "I would never fuck Silver because he is pathetic" the Tenrec
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>>538810394
Fails sucks.
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>>538810463
Rouge’s tits
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>>538810459
Is Gold still referenced in Blitz?
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>>538810541
Mark my words. None of the vaulted characters will be in Blitz.
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>>538809895
They were blatantly copying the success of Shadow into 06 with both Silver and Mephiles. Nothing is more certain than the writing on the wall of them thinking they found a new formula to milk
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>>538810605
shucks... I hope you're wrong
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>>538810541
Whatever happened with blitz in general?
No one really talks about it, even if it's supposed to be an everything fag wet dream.
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>>538809895
There is no other explanation for having only the hedgehogs going super at the end. They couldn’t make the allegory any more obvious
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>>538810683
It’s not even out yet.
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>>538798291
She's a cryptid
>>538810683
Those people were wrong. Obviously they weren't going to just put a bunch of banished characters in a new game all at once.
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>>538810683
It's only available in 2 or 3 countries ww and none of the other "interesting" characters are available yet.
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>people will take 06 over colors , LW and forces
feels good lads
06gods won and got vindicated
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According to the official twitter account the most played characters in the ONT for Crossworlds were:
>1. Shadow
>2. Sonic
>3. Jet
>4. Tails
>5. Cream
Cream's still within the top 5, fascinating.
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>>538810632
>>538810728
The same game also features every other character (unlike what came after). Shadow's biggest focus was getting his own game, other than that he was in two games (Heroes, Battle) where he was just one character out of many and five games where he is completely absent. What you see with Silver is just Sonic Team prioritizing their new character for their debut, which is what they had always done since 1992
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>>538810897
>people will take shit over poop
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>>538810951
Core 5
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>>538810105
I actually tired searching Shadow x Ariem and got nothing, she's safe ...for now atleast
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>>538810951
silverbros we got beat by children and a green turkey
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>>538811041
We have to protect her
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>>538810951
Tails and specially cream being there is really interesting, I thought cream was almost forgotten into oblivion.
Shadow being the most played character is no surprise, last year we have the movie and shadow generations being successful.
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>>538810951
because cream is broken. also glad to see jet made the cut.
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>>538811041
she's neither attractive nor interesting. can't imagine finding anything besides weird fetish art
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>>538810990
>The same game also features every other character (unlike what came after).
That’s because everyone besides the hedgehogs was only included sparingly at best, which made people think they were useless hence why they stopped being used in general. All to prop up a pothead oc tier character
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>>538811178
if shadowfags stole sonia they'll steal ariem too
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>>538811154
Tails is popular
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>>538811257
shadowfags didn't steal Sonia. Soniafags want Shadow
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Silver being a hedgehog is his blessing and his curse
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>>538810683
Taking way too long to release globally.
I got in with a VPN and I can tell you, they might just ruin the game before it comes out. In the last update they haphazardly changed the fundamental rules of the main game-mode and invalidated multiple cards in doing so. Any strategy the game had before was obliterated by this change.
I may be biased, but when you go from a ruleset that allows 2-3 different decks to be meta to just 1, you've royally fucked up. I'm looking forward to the devs changing it back but it does not instill me with the confidence that this game will ever be good.

Also the timeline they set out earlier this month makes it sound like it's going to be a very long time before it's released to NA so sit tight and expect the game to be stillborn.
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>>538810769
>She's a cryptid
Someone draw Sally walking like in the Patterson Gimlin footage.
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>>538811323
There is no such thing as Soniafags. Shadowfags are THIEVES
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>>538811323
soniafags don't exist. 99% of the people who draw her (and manic/aleena) have never watched underground.
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>>538811256
People didn't complain about the characters "being useless" (they weren't btw), they complained about the characters EXISTING, or in some cases being playable (the most effective way to be relevant in a game). You're claiming Shadow was useful, but he was one of the most hated by the people who pushed the shitty friends nonsense. You're not directing your attacks at the right issues
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>>538811323
>soniafags
anon...its shitdow fans
they want shitdow to be part of sonic's family lol
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>>538811513
Genius, if you think someone shouldn’t exist it’s because you think they’re useless. They go hand in hand.
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>>538811323
You can tell it's Shadow fags because Sonia is never ic in Shadow pairing art. There is no escaping this one Shadowthieves
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>>538811632
>Sonadonia
Hot. Would Scourge want to join in or would it be incest for him?
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>>538811693
They were the characters shouldn't exist long before 2006. It has nothing to do with how little they were included in that specific game, if anything they would have complained more if they were used more. They didn't want the characters to be "useful", they wanted the sole focus to be on Sonic
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>>538810042
Would have been based.
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>>538811891 (Me)
>They were the characters shouldn't exist
*They were saying

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RxxlCZs9oaM
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>>538811372
>>538811431
>>538811772
I remember seeing some soniafags on deviantart back in the day. shadowfags would rather ship him with a higher profile female like Amy or Rouge or even Sally
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>>538811513
>people complain about sonic's friends being shit to play as
>remove them
>make sonic shit to play as
Sega should’ve died with the dreamcast
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>>538812029
Why is it always Green Eyes?
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SA1 fun fact. This is how STG00 or 'Practice' looks with LANTERN functions and Ninja Lights functions (non-lantern) in the AutoDemo. Due to its lack of textures and lighting files, it appears white. Using the non-Lantern model draw functions for models enable the renderer to parse material colors, allowing you to see the test stages. Unlike Practice 1 and 3, Practice 2 in particular doesn't boot with Lantern draw functions because the vertices array is too big, PkR discovered. There are 2297 vertices in Practice 2, more than 2068 crashes it. With Ninja Lights, Practice 2 successfully boots and runs smoothly.
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>>538811891
Yes, and having most of them appear to be useless in 06 save for Sonic Shadow and new Pothead OC only fueled their argument, and that was tipping point for sega to finally act on it
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>>538811336
If you-know-who sees this he'll probably start purposefully making Sally blurry in videos instead of cropping her out
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>>538812136
>people complain about sonic's friends being shit to play as
>remove them
>make sonic shit to play as
And then they fixed it and everyone loved it
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>>538809579
Humans, would have never been banned in the first place.
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>>538812216
>having most of them appear to be useless in 06
>lets forget end of the world
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>>538812204
Why do ninja lights make Practice 2 run?
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>>538812287
>sonic colors
By giving up and making sonic do generic 2D block platforming or autorunning down hallways like its temple run
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>>538812287
makes me happy that now everyone hates colors
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>>538812325
>>lets forget end of the world
>lets force the player to use all these shitty busted characters back to back one last time
No wonder everyone hated the fuckers
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>>538812325
And what is the event that those characters cause once the 7 emeralds are gathered?
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>>538812136
Look at the video I linked here >>538812029 and tell me what it has to do with gameplay.
The characters were just hated period

https://www.gamesradar.com/the-10-worst-sonic-friends/
https://www.gamesradar.com/the-10-worst-sonic-friends/2/

>>538812216
The game got mocked so much they overcorrected in every single aspect, not just the characters

>>538812287
Sonic Colors is not a 3D game. I am the only person in the world who (still) likes Sonic Colors
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>>538812287
This only shows how SoA as a whole bend the knee to IGN and others. Absolute dogshit man , SoA just needs to die already. Naka did us a favor back then but he didn't finished the job.
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>>538812564
SoA didn't make those games
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Colors DS is better than Colors Wii.
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but its funny when amy does it
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>>538812641
Never understood why the colors do version had the actual full story of the game.
It even became the actual canon version, for involving mother wisp.
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>>538812540
Ohh boo hoo, faggots and pedophiles and schizo nintendo fans hated sonic's cast on principle. Of course they're gonna be weirdos. If sega/sonic team made sure these fucking characters were actually as fun and polished as sonic when they appeared, the weirdos wouldn't have been able to convince the fence-sitters
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tails is a cuck
goodnight and enjoy the Nintendo direct tomorrow
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>>538812621
SoA are the ones that told SoJ to go ""back to basic"". SoJ had to fight SoA to get vocal songs like Infinite/fist bump again
The meta era is because SoJ lost power to SoA
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>>538812621
SoA should’ve kept their mouths shut
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>>538812540
The same troon Sega gave a giant Sonic Colors beach towel btw
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>>538812775
>The characters were hated because people didn't like their gameplay
No, the characters were hated because they didn't want any characters other than Sonic

>The characters were hated because they didn't have enough of a role in the story
No, the characters were hated because they didn't want any characters other than Sonic

Characters that were never playable were hated
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>>538809367
Knucklesbros... Amysisters...
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>>538812857
>>538812910
>The meta era is because SoJ lost power to SoA
Who controls that "power"? SoA are just a marketing dept. and a licensing agency.
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>>538812689
I honestly do miss the "goofy abhorrent admirer" archetype like this guy or the Kankers form Ed Edd & Eddy.
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>>538812773
Because sonic team wanted the "sonic doesn't need a story" crowd
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wouldn't it be sad if marine showed up and didn't keep her accent since that was just some weird localization thing
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>>538812991
I remember Iizuka said they wanted to do vocal themes but SoA insisted against it when they were making Lost World. They were able to go back to them for Forces after Lost World and Boom failed
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>>538812641
Because it didn't bother pretending to be 3D
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>>538813092
Ok. why did the Japanese give in?
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>>538813092
Sometimes I wonder if SoA's even bigger cheapskates than SoJ and just don't wanna find singers.
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Each generation of fans effectively hates Sonic to some degree because the Sonic they know was killed for something else. Ignoring the green eyes autism, what "classicfags" complain about is very similar to the arguments in here
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>>538813179
Probably because Americans love Sonic more than Japan does
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>>538813179
>Muh Dark Age!
>Muh Buttrock!
Well-poisoning from non-fans.
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>>538813025
I agree. Even in the instances where it was outright rapey it could net a laugh
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>>538813179
I'm not defending SoJ over this. But I think the answer is that Naka wasn't in charge anymore
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>>538813058
It gave her a lot of personality, I don't know, in japanese she was suppose to talk like an Okinawan, thats why no one completely understood her.
Her talking with an Australian accent was funny.
I doubt they would take her accent
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>>538813179
SoA had SegaSammy's favor. Remember that this was post-06 - SoJ's biggest failure - and post-Colors, SoA's technical biggest success due to being the first game written by Westerners (Graff & Pontac)
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>>538812204
>the test level isn’t visible at all with palette lighting
>Practice 2 doesn’t even boot with palette lighting
So Sonic Adventure was developed with ninja lights in mind pretty much.
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>>538812979
Rush Adventure is a shit example. It set up Marine to fail. Cheap ass, piece of shit game grilled her for being annoying and useless except for one ass-pull cutscene at the end. If she was actually a fun player character, she would've been received better.
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>>538812804
Enjoy that sleep, it might be your last
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Read this
SOA will be ALWAYS be the enemy. They created the meta era.
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>>538813345
apparently there are no australian actresses in the dubbing business so they'd have to pull a non dubbing actor like they did with Merlina
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>>538813392
>due to being the first game written by Westerners (Graff & Pontac)
Did they come up with the space travel and mother wisp plot? or did they just write the dialogs like Flynn in Frontiers while providing some participation to the plot? Remember that Pontac said he knows absolutely nothing about Sonic.
Didn't Iizuka say that colors was only meant as a side game? like how Sonic Advance was
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>>538813442
It's one example out of many
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>>538813223
Classicfags seething for modern is not even a thing anymore, because classic got revived, updated and even added more characters.
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>>538813529
Or just have a dub actor do an Australian accent.
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>>538813529
You can always make a fake accent, that's not an issue.
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>>538813179
Big Gaijin Cocku
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>>538813223
>the sonic franchise has to keep cycling out its fanbase as kids get older and realize how shit these games still are
kek
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>>538813529
>they'd have to pull a non dubbing actor like they did with Merlina
Those are the best kind. People still praise Final Fantasy 12's dub since it was a lot of classical theater guys..
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>>538813223
but classicfags got mania and superstars? what is this cope?
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>race around the world
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>>538813303
Maybe the fucking autistic programmer shouldn't be in the voice director's booth
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>>538813738
See? and I got called a mad man archiefag
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>>538813561
>Did they come up with the space travel and mother wisp plot?
No.

>or did they just write the dialogs
Yes. Dialogue only. Actually, the dialogue was already written. Pontac and Graff joined Colors development late, the Japanese script was already fully done. Pontac and Graff wrote the English localization

>while providing some participation to the plot?
Pontac and Graff said Sonic Team wanted to get rid of Orbot and Cubot, but Pontac and Graff insisted to keep them and convinced Sonic Team. It's unclear if they were talking about Colors or Lost World though

Yasushi Otake wrote the story of Sonic Colors. Pontac and Graff wrote the English script. I don't know if Pontac and Graff had anything to do with the dialogue in the DS version. The Japanese version and the DS version are more in character from what I know, so my guess is no

>>538813852
I'm glad he was. I like his passion and confidence, and that's something that's been missing from the series
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>>538813568
>tails and knuckles get a pass
Because they were first introduced with gameplay that wasn't complete dogshit
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>>538813578
>>538813830
My point is everyone becomes a hate filled erafag eventually because Sonic keeps changing and that you have more in common than you think with the people you call your enemy that tried to change this franchise
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>>538813931
>Orbot and Cubot are Pontaff's legacy
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>>538813826
The saddest thing about voice acting is that dub actors are actually the lowest of the low. The easiest to get into
They rarely get upward trajectory. Hiring an actual theater actor to do anime voices tends to mog them.. Same with actors who mainly do western cartoons.
Literally worse than Celebrity voice actors at catching inflections.
Amy's current voice actress still has to do hentai to make ends meet (Testament of Sister New Devil. I know someone will ask)
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>>538813931
We traded passion and confidence for competence and got neither
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>>538814275
>confidence for competence
Silver is... not that...
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>>538812364
>Why do ninja lights make Practice 2 run?
Most likely due to the addition of back-face culling.
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>>538813978
It wasn't about gameplay. I have already thoroughly disproven you. Here's some more
https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2010-10-12-sonic-the-hedgehog-4-episode-i-review
https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2010-10-12-sonic-the-hedgehog-4-episode-i-review?page=2

>>538814001
I enjoy most Sonic games. I used to force myself to stick to the classics, the first two Adventure games, and the Dimps games. But I've come to realize this erafag stuff is stupid. I enjoy the mid 2000s and most of the 2010s games now. I still wish we could get Adventure style games again though. If Classic gets its own branch then so should Adventure
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>>538814001
one become an era fag because the product its subpar anon
Forces was the wake up call for everyone because it was the equivalent of the whitest bread after getting white bread for 10 years
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Hello faggots
Do they show Sonic racing shit at these Nintendo Directs or am I stuck waiting for the Tokyo Game Show for confirmation of my wife
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>>538814818
your androgynous esper is already confirmed
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>>538814131
>Testament of Sister New Devil
Looked it up and I recognize quite a few of the voices. Most of them from Fire Emblem. Even fucking Shadow and Big were in it
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>>538814594
I'm glad you do anon. It's not easy for some to let go of what Sonic is or isn't to them
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>>538814818
isnt nights a dude
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>>538814992
I think Nights is completely genderless
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>>538814402
Why are there floating balls?
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>It's the gameplay, they hated it because of the gameplay
Then Sonic 4 Episode 1 comes out and reviewers praise it for introducing the brand new lock on targeting system that evolves the gameplay: the Homing Attack!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y8__PP88BCY
THIS IS THE SONIC GAME I'VE BEEN WAITING FOR! SONIC IS BACK!
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>>538814594
>It wasn't about gameplay. I have already thoroughly disproven you. Here's some more
>https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2010-10-12-sonic-the-hedgehog-4-episode-i-review
>https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2010-10-12-sonic-the-hedgehog-4-episode-i-review?page=2
Dumbshit hack critic, probably hadn't touched a sonic game since 1993. She was suckered in by the plastic checkerboard hills and shitty synths after over 2 decades of shitty, undercooked experiments and saw this overblown phone game as progress because sonic team was too busy fucking with transformations and weapons and minigames to make sure sonic's basic 3D gameplay was well-polished and prioritized. There had been a "rough transition to 3D."
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>>538815187
this is who you support if you think SOA deserves to be alive
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6i2z761q9PA&
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1. Sonic
2. Tail
3. Shadow
4. Amy
5. Cream
6.Rouge.

Before you make a character playable in a new sonic game, ask yourself, are the main six already available or otherwise indisposed for in story reasons? If yes, go ahead, if no, you're making the game wrong.
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>>538814818
Does Nights have two or one hole
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>>538815187
>SONIC IS BACK!
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>>538815329
>cream
>rouge
>main
KEK
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>>538815329
>4. Amy
>5. Cream
>6.Rouge.
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>opening song to sonic movie 3 actually sounds like something that would be in a 2000s Sonic game
this is so distracting to me https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tg1dpLyYa3I
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>>538815253
>Better than expected Sonic 4 Episode 1
Dude also insists on calling Eggman Robotnik
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>>538815090
These don't do anything, at least not in the AutoDemo. In early builds, these probably had a function applied that made the character gravitate to its surface, and it was made to test rolling physics, maybe.
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>>538815187
You can tell a person's age by whether they call him Robotnik or Eggman.
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>>538815390
Amy is main, Mariofag.
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>>538795726
Cute canon couple (and Sonic's best design!)
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>>538815549
nice revisionism
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>538815329
fucking lol
you don't deserve a (YOU)
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lost another fat one to sonia. pray for me bros.
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>>538815253
Sonic colors is the only 3D Sonic game whose core gameplay isn't totally awful.

>>538815413
Why do zoomies get mad at using Robotnik's proper name, and insist on a Baldy McNosehair tier insult?
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>>538815738
Eggman was always better
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>>538815253
>The cast of characters has been Greatly Reduced
The sheer venom in his voice as it said that.
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>>538815738
>3D Sonic game
>colors
???
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>>538815738
Sonic Colors is not a 3D game. There are many good 3D Sonic games, Sonic Colors is not one of them
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the funny thing is aside from sly cooper the sonic games were actually some of the best platformers in the 2000s. Jak 2 and 3 are fucking horrible. The Spyrogames crash and burn in the late 2000s. Ty the Tasmanian Tiger? What a joke!
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>>538815619
>door victim
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>>538815567
Said no one ever, inferior model.
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>>538815976
metal jobbing to a door while racing against Sonic is accurate history
metal jobbing to may is shameless revisionism
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I think we should shake things up a bit and talk about shipping for once
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>>538815187
>>538815221
>>538815253
>sega let these idiots cost us a decade of potential progress, when all they had to do was give all of sonic's furry bastard friends a spindash, and make them optional like mania did
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It it weren't for vollatile knuxougefags then knuxriem would have taken off immediately
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>>538816251
Heroes and the Advance games existed. And they were still hated for having the characters.
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>>538815567
Based and westpilled
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Is it me or this particular thread, has been really calm, we talked about archie, silver, and idw, the games, shipping and now one has lost their minds yet. Even the flynn hate boner ceased, and no one is posting porn.
Was the shitposter banned?
Is... really nice here right now.
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>>538816338
Only scratch, grounder and coconuts are worth something on that pic.
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>>538816347
give it time the silver and blazefags will find something to argue about.
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>>538816347
Euro hours rn. civil discussions only happen during those. also it's a work day and I guess americans are back to school?
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>>538816462
>hating manic
you are cruel and evil
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>>538816298
Heroes locked the full story behind 4 rehashes of the same campaign. Rush cut down the playable characters because they were too cheap to make new 3d models.
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They should make a spinoff cream game that isn't LOCKED TO ONE FUCKING TYPE OF MOBILE DEVICE. TEAMSONIC, YOU FUCKING NIGGERS!
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>>538816567
Hmm? The story?? The thing they hated, that they don't want to see, and that they said Sonic shouldn't have??? THAT story???? Who is forcing them to play it?????
Just play Team Sonic and be done with it. Or is it a problem that Tails and Knuckles are with him?
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Lets make a Sonic game together
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>>538814918
I mean full trailer and whatnot.
>>538815345
>>538814992
They're whatever you want them to be.
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>>538816805
>the gaijin doesn't have a nintendo
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>>538815471
Come to think of it, other structures in Practice 2 don't seem to be compatible with Sonic as of the AutoDemo. He obviously can't complete that twisty loop, and those pinball rails do nothing. Perhaps they used to have a feature that allowed Sonic to stick to them in older builds. Say, if the devs wanted Sonic to roll through the pinball rails, they had a functionality that allowed Sonic to attach to the rails as long as he was in pinball mode. The loop could probably work with an automated path, but Practice 3 has a bunch of automated path tests, while this loop doesn't have an automated path spline. Practice 1 doesn't have automated paths either for its loops, but you can easily use those without one.
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I can't believe they gave Sonic a sword. What were they thinking? This series is done! It's not like the good old days anymore
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>>538816553
No one outside of 1 or two spergs here cares about that grass head.
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>>538816812
No $50-$60 game gets judged by only the first quarter
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>>538817069
Classic sonic wasn't dumb enough to make a whole game around it
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>>538816992
It’s like having a glimpse into an extremely early period in SA1’s development.
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>>538817070
You are mean and cruel
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>>538817119
If you're saying this then you've clearly never looked at achievement stats. Most people don't even get halfway through the games they play
Half of the people who played Sonic Frontiers never beat Giganto

Also you literally just said they should be optional like in Mania. They are. If you don't care about the story you have no reason to play it. The core of a video game is the game, the story is a bonus. If you don't care about the other characters, don't play them. If you don't care about the rest of the story, don't play it

>>538817209
There is nothing dumb about it. Sonic with a sword was always cool
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>>538817334
You have autism if you care that deeply about a random frenchshit cartoon that got cancelled before a season 2 could be greenlit.
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>>538817459
>you have autism
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>>538817402
Most people on steam aren't game reviewers, which is what sega cares about. The main game of heroes was also buggy, bloated, gimmicky and over-reliant on scripting even if you just play through as team sonic
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>>538817459
stop hurting me please
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>>538817402
>There is nothing dumb about it. Sonic with a sword was always cool
Oh yeah I feel so cool swinging my wiimote arond while sonic runs down hallways between bouts of shitty combat
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>>538817545
I didn't know Jet and Cream were so popular
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NXswXO9E-CI
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>>538817545
>not only is knuckles not as popular as shadow, he's actually just the least popular sonic rival
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>538817569
I’m going to hit you.
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>>538817765
NO I WANT TO LIVE AND WATCH SONIC UNDERGROUND
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>>538817545
>Cream in fifth
>Cream above Amy
Genuinely surprising she's the fifth most popular in the whole crossword OB. Shit she beat out chuckles
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>>538817708
Jet got boosted by Twitter hype calling Jetplayers track demons so now he's the defacto tryhard pick
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>>538817565
Reviewers usually don't beat the games either, especially long ones. They need to put out their garbage misinformation reviews in time

>gimmicky and over-reliant on scripting
You know what that description reminds me of? The highly praised return to form that also introduced the amazing new physics and the revolutionary Homing Attack: Sonic 4 Episode 1
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>>538817978
The twitter numbers must have been crazy to push Jet to third
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>>538817748
>>538817545
oh shit knuckles was playable
yeah he is unironically finished :(
Amy too i guess
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i like all sonic characters except the skunks
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>>538818147
Cream now officially the most popular sonic female. Blaze and Wave need to step up their game, Amy is too cooked.
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I am buying green lantern and maybe flash with WW
What about you /sthg/?
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>>538818475
On /co/ there's a thread about viacom considering buying warner bros.
We have an actual chance of having the sonic vs dc in an animated movie form, and that's actually crazy.
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>>538818475
Feels weird to have a Sonic DC crossover with no lasting impact aside from Sonamy discussion
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>Does very well in two separate tests, both times above the likes of Eggman, Amy, Silver and Knuckles
>Finally free from her purgatory thanks to Dream Team
>Recent channel practically spells out that she is the wind
She's going to usurp movie 4 from Amy and Metal somehow at this rate.
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>>538818608
everyone was utterly pissed of how it ended
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>>538817989
Sonic 4 had no bullshit team fights
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>>538818686
>Does very well in two separate tests, both times above the likes of Eggman, Amy, Silver and Knuckles
Silver wasn't playable lol
A lot of you legit have the dude rent free in your minds
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>>538818686
In my fucking dreams cream makes it into sonic 4. Big being in as a joke is more likely but God I'd give anything to see my babygirl on the big screen ToT
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>>538818686
>cheese got in the movies before cream did
kek
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>>538818825
I'm going to be real with you I completely forgot he wasn't entirely because he's such an obvious conclusion, my bad.
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Sonic 4 getting good reviews just for being a 2D title should tell you how absolutely surface level games criticism was before Joseph Anderson caused the opposite extreme to become popular
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>>538818686
More cream involved more vanilla, im all for it.
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>>538818887
>Getting cream means we get fat titty milf rabbit along for free
QUICK PUT HER IN EVERYTHING AAAAAHHHH
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Cream should get vaulted along with her boring mom that nobody draws on model
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>>538817545
Sonicucks...
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Well bros Ian did it
He ""saved"' Knuckles just like he saved Amy to the point he is not even top 5
Sonic 2 the movie? already forgotten
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>>538818872
The reviews were praising it for looking like the classics in an extremely superficial way, not having any of "Sonic's shitty friends", and not having a story
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Fowler saved Knuckles and Shadow unironically
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>>538816992
What other cool thing does the test level have?
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>>538818872
>Joseph Anderson
Who? (Don't answer, I don't care)
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>>538819220
Wanna fuck
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>>538819268
>Sally
Ew no, bye
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I think Sonic is weak
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>>538817545
>>538819014
Shadowinner
Sonicuck
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>>538819390
Sonic has won every canon battle between them
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>>538819426
Didn't he win a bunch of times in Ow the Edge?
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>>538819390
Sonic has lost every canon battle between them
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>>538819491
Not canon
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>>538819098
Fowler gave knuckles one last glimpse of the sunset before putting him down for good
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>>538819426
Cope
>Sonic even canonically jobs to a shadow clone the real shadow has to save Sonic from
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>>538819184
There's a scene change object that spawns Sonic into the act or level of your choosing.
Full clip:
https://files.catbox.moe/4b5d3r.mp4
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>>538798714
I didn't really think it could get that bad but that teraleak proved me wrong lol. I'll bet it was Dawnfags too.

>>538805670
It was never gonna stick anon a different girl would still replace her spot like the rest, iirc XYZ didn't prove to be all that successful anyway which is why the direction for Sun and Moon went far into a direction.

>>538806383
lmfao they're still at it to this day

>>538806824
Was it really? I could've sworn it was more so Tikal instead of Shade. How non existent was the fanbase for Julie Su and Sonia considering they came first cartoon/comic wise?
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>>538819032
Ian might have killed sonamy, but he also killed knuxouge, so I guess we're even
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>>538819597
That isn't what happened
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>>538807429
>like makes perfect sense why shinji and mari are the last ones in the end
How? Like rei not being final girl I get since she’s basically his mom/sister but what about the other girls? Elaborate pls
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>>538819678
Literally did happen.
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>>538819614
Damn, that loads literally instantly.
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>>538806824
With knuxouge out of the way now knuckles shipping is wide open. Knuxriem came too early to actually be effective. They should just skip the relationship development and just have her already be in knuckles gf in a game because otherwise it's never gonna happen.
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>>538811154
In the first beta test run, she was among the top 3 along with Sonic and Shadow as the most chosen player.
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Today was great since the Shadriafags gave it a fucking rest
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>>538806824
>rouge
lmao
>shade
Even more lmao
What's next? Julie-Su? Realistically all Knuckles has is Ariem.
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>Shadougefags being rent free about Shadriafags again
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>>538813568
The irony of this image is that Vector, Amy and Charmy are older than Knuckles and even Tails in Vector (and I think Amy's) case.
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>>538819974
>>538820000
cute cute cute
based based based shadria
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>>538820010
Mighty is older, too.
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Realistically, what are the chances of ANY echidna coming back?
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>>538819974
>>538820000
Posting this ship just to bait isn't mature. Everyone knows this is an unpopular slash ship.
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>>538817545
You thought the Year of Shadow was over? That's cute...
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>>538820010
>>538820107
>fakefan faggot didn't actually know the series
What a shock
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>>538820109
Slim, insanely, but I wouldn’t say zero.
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>>538818686
I hope she does come back into the spotlight, I loved playing her in Advanced 2-3. I doubt she'll have a roll in the movie but I hope we can get a brief cameo with her, Cheese and Vanilla somehow.
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>>538820010
>and even Tails in Vector (and I think Amy's) case
Amy appeared in the manga before Sonic 2 released, so yes.
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>>538820107
Shit I forgot, both him and Ray actually.

>>538820256
u r a faggot
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>>538820447
She even absorbed Madonna
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>>538819682
both rei and asuka had their own lives already , shinji always liked asuka only on the superficial way the point in r2 he refuses to act for her while he gave everything for rei. He neeeded to move on and find his own hapiness just like mari was doing in every movie she was in. She even got rejected by Asuka and moved on.
Its why Anno said Mari was there to "destroy eva"
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>>538820109
It's not like Echidnas are off the table entirely given the movie allowing them with Knuckles having a father at that but I doubt we'll ever see the Chronicles version ever again. Sega would also have to let Knuckles have focus again first and foremost.
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Should I write that fanfic idea I had way back when of kit and surge getting their own android 16 thats a super egg pawn and them doing stuff together?
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>>538811772
Counterpoint: Shadamy.
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>>538821005
Why not? I can see it as a cross between Gamma and Omega.
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>>538818686
Cream was always a favorite. She was considered the fifth member of the circle of heroes like Sonic, Tails, Knuckles, and Amy before to the fandom before she was suddenly vaulted. I hope now she returns to her rightful position.
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Imagine they do another metric data thing like 3 months in and cream is still top five that would be nuts. Top ten would be nuts even
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Evil Shadria.
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>>538815253
>Start video
>Literally begins with "Sonic's had it rough for years. After his Golden Era on the Sega Genesis, Sega's had a hard time finding their footing with the blue-furred mascot. They've have put out games that have ranged from terrible to... less terrible-ish really."
Man, this kind of shit takes me back. This was the usual introduction to Sonic reviews.
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>>538820993
>It's not like Echidnas are off the table entirely given the movie allowing them with Knuckles having a father at that

A ghost. He was a ghost. We've seen echidna ghosts in the mainline games too. Sega isn't adding any more echidnas, you need to accept that. You'll be lucky if they decide to keep the one they have.
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Good morning, what's the daily drama?
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>>538817708
Jetfags have existed for a long time and I still don't understand what ropes them in to this character.
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>he is real bro he just started working there
lmao /sthg/ was very delusional pre release
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>>538821809
Shitty gimmicks were the usual basis of sonic's games
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what he looking at
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gay nigger who reads
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>>538822106
*kisses you*
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>>538822106
Out of morbid curiosity Fionaposter, are you in Yurop by chance?
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>>538823462
Yes.
>>538823174
BLEAH
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>>538822106
Cream outsauced half the cast, to the surprise of many. Jet slowly climbing in popularity in the normiesphere, and Shadow once again proves he is the ultimate lifeform
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>>538818686
>Cream's Year of Cunny
I want to believe
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>>538823174
Which other character has the best selfcest ships? Sonic?
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Is it me or is the reason Sonic comics tend to be on the mediocre side of things due to them turning into official fanfiction? Kinda comes with the territory being licensed tie-in media but I think that is why there's nothing stand out in any of it.
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>>538823858
needs wind
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Cream is literally the wind
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>>538819597
Those clones in forces got one shot by everyone at the end of forces
Clones as strong as the original shadow are literally weaker than charmy according to forces kek
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>>538820109
Make them robo echidnas I guess
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>Reading a fanfic about how Sonic was in a coma for ten years
>First chapter was about him coming to terms with it in the hospital while Knuckles helped him out, Sonic dealing with his weakened body after 10 years and how he may never be able to run again
>Second chapter, Amy comes to help Sonic in the hospital
>Sonic tries to rape Amy
I mean I don't understand how that escalated so quickly like that but ok I suppose....
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>>538824761
why are fanfics like this?
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>>538810951
Cream still being top girl is not surprising. Amy’s no fun at all in this game, they actually fucked her up to the point of normaltards realizing she’s mid. I bet if we got stats on all characters, Wave would also be higher than Amy. Amy’s such a boring, nothing character now that doesn’t stand out. More people probably played Zazz than her
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>reading fanfic
>Amy comes out as trans to Sonic
>Immediately after their first kiss
>Sonic beats her almost to death and gets arrested
>Amy contracts aids and dies
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>>538824293
Correction, those clones are stronger than their original counterparts but somehow weaker than Charmy.
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>>538818686
All this retardation of finding the series second girl besides Amy and the answer has been here all along. They never needed to reinvent the wheel, Cream works and is popular and already was second girl 20 years ago. Trip, Sticks and none of the idw ocs can change that.
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>>538824942
This except with Silver and Blaze
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>>538825204
The general public doesn't even know who cream is
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Why is hontails so popular?
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>>538824024
meme is fanfiction
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>>538801164
>and making them tell Ian point blank that he had to kill Sonic's relationship with Sally (this was before the reboot) leading to Ian's newfangled mecha Sally arc?
Did that happen?
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>>538823575
Good to know. Have a voided Fiona for your honesty.
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>>538825427
because i wish i was tails
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Cream steals credit for Cheese's accomplishments
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>>538825427
Why is Whisper upset? Well, more upset than she usually is at least.
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>>538825524
Yes. Ian has frequently stated this when people blame him for Sonally's death. That even before the reboot was goign to happen he got a note that Sonic cannot enter a relationship.
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>>538825389
The public demo says otherwise. Top 3 in a closed beta full of sonicfags, but still top 5 in a public test full of normalfags playing the game. Women also like to play her because she’s actually cute.
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>>538825389
Phenomenal level of cope.
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>>538825620
Cheese has nothing to do with it. The whole reason Cream is even in the game is because people bitched that TSR replaced her with a cart of Chao
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>>538825701
Normalfags play fortnite and roblox
Sonic's popularity still resides with people used to the franchise and not casual gamers
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>>538825427
tails and honey ready to suck some cock
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>>538825538
thank you <3
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>>538825813
Normalfags also like kart racers like Mario Kart, but lately they’ve been pretty upset with it for various reasons and out comes Sonic with the public test and boom suddenly normalfags are doing sonic and mario warring.
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>>538825671
Do you have a link to one of the times he said it?
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>>538825813
Why are you upset at the idea of Cream being popular?
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>>538826112
The easiest one to find is the one on his QA list where someone rants about Sally being a lesbian. Search "lesbian".
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Do you guys really want Sonic to burst the normie bubble? I don’t want Xqc, Asmond, the rdc niggers or others sloptubers becoming regular thing on my sonic feed
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>>538825965
I wonder what kind of personality you'd need to have to actually hate cream, she's so comparatively inoffensive lined up with other characters the series has had
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>>538826353
do you remember the mentality people had in the 2000s? this was unfortunately normal.
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>>538826469
can we go back?
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>>538825965
Dow Bros are cruel as hell
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>>538825813
>Most popular Sonic game on Roblox is an exe game with Cream playable, has roughly 2-3 times the playercount of speedsim at all times
She can't stop winning...
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Sonic hasn't been part of the cultural zeitgeist of gaming since the 90s and early 00s if you're being generous.
Gachashit and mobileslop is all the rage now. Get with the times gramps. One day this general will be all 100% washed up boomer aged anons because Sonic's already way past its prime of popularity and appeal to the youth.
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Fun Fact: Cream's theme song in Outcome Memories currently has 1.1 million views on youtube. Normalfags are therefore more likely to know what a Cream is than your fave.
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>>538826987
I hate gachashit and mobileslop
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>>538827053
Those numbes are nothing compared to shit that's actually well known to normies
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>>538827053
>your fave.
My fave was in Sonic 3
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Let Sonic die out. Death is preferable to being whored out to zoomers if that's the price of staying alive as multimedia IP.
Unless you want to see ishowspeed appearing in the next Sonic game like the travesty that as COTW, you would agree with me so this franchise's corpse doesn't get raped any further.
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>>538808150
The fact that the Smash Sonic is still based on 06 makes me very sad
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>>538827314
Ishowmeat is a funny neighbor.
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>>538827107
You’re the one arguing Roblox is what’s popular with normies. Exe shit is especially popular with kids to the point there’s a shitton of kids that know it more than the franchise it originated from. You look up Cream with the Outcome Memories tag, there’s a bunch of videos, shorts and tiktoks about her. There’s a whole separate audience of Cream fans that are kids none of you even know about because cute innocent child in a horror setting is popular, who would have guessed
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>>538825965
>>538826534
"Autistic and better than Chris Chandler" hands made these
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>>538827314
Better than being Crash at the moment.
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>>538827053
Damn I don't even play pedoblox so I never knew but that's a banger ass theme. Cream is a modern day muse fr
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>>538827314
I hate this níggér so much is unreal
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>>538827821
>It's tail time!
Rez put him in a time loop lmao
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>>538827729
Being popular in internet memes doesn't translate to sales and player count in video games. Otherwis Ugandan Knuckles would've given Knuckles his second game.
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>>538827935
>moving goal post
Why are you upset about Cream being popular and having an audience both inside and outside of the main audience?
>memes
It’s a whole fangame with its own ost and sub fandom. https://youtu.be/yltiKGs6LhE
The comments on this thing is like looking into a separate universe.
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Crash social media changed its bio today. Do you think they Orange retard is getting into Crossworlds?
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>>538827935
Notice how Knuckles couldn’t make top 5 in the test but cream could
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>>538828403
Crashdow will be canon
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>>538828469
That just means the movies didn't boost his popularity and translate to sales because being in a movie doesn't mean more people will buy the game to play it for Knuckles. Same reason why Marvel's comic sales are still abysmal despite the MCU.
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>>538828665
Notice how Shadow is number 1 in the test over Sonic after having a movie and half game dedicated to him. Seething knucklesfag is upset nobody gives af about Knuckles because hes boring and not appealing to casuals like Shadow and Cream
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>>538828149
I like that cream stays the same in the fans eyes, just a little girl trying to do her best
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I like Cream because she represents a genuine sense of untainted, unpretentious naivety. Something that is free from the chains of autism and exists solely for the sake of existing. In Sonic, this is a quality that is very rare. For people that are sick of Sonic 'fandom' and other nonsense, Cream is a character for you.
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>>538828950
Most of Cream's fans are pedophiles
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>>538829015
All the characters in sonic are underaged...
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>>538829015
cope knuxfag
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>>538829015
Just because you find Cream and Amy cute doesn't mean you're a pedo. Honestly kinda insulting.
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>wanting more underage zoomers in a fanbase shared with tailspedos and creampedos
You are enabling groomers btw
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>>538829206
It's a children's game series you fucking loon. Making games for children is not pedophilia.
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>>538829206
Imagine Sonic team getting sued like roblox because of creampedos
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>ran out of arguments
>UH UH WELL THEY ARE PEDOS
>gets proof kids like kid characters like themselves in a franchise made for kids
>YOURE ENABLING GROOMERS
meds
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>>538829301
The primary demographic of Sonic games isn't very young children, it's mostly older people that actually grew up with Sonic and have nostalgia for him.
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>>538829578
holy retard
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>>538829638
>he thinks zoomers are lining up to buy Sonic games in the millions
Sonic team makes games for Sonic fans who actually buy the games and they are predominantly not 8 year olds who are probably watching skibidi toilet instead. Cope.
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"Aiiiieeee! Sega might be tempting me to be a pedo because they put kids in a kid's game! Why is Sega doing this??"
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>>538829578
No no no, come back. We’re getting off topic, you’ve yet to say why you hate Cream being popular? How did we get here about demographics for Sonic games. All of this started because you seethed at the possibility Cream was popular and that she could go back to being second girl next to Amy.
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Stop using "pedo" as a suffix for every word.
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Things are more popular to zoomers than Sonic and by extension Cream:
>gachashit
>mobileslop
>skibidi toilet
>roblox
>fortnite
>minecraft
>mario
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>>538829859
Fuck off Demandspedo
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>tailspedo melty
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>>538795726
Didn't watch Sally's show.
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>>538829904
How does that answer the question? Okay these thing are more popular than Sonic. Within the constraints of people who do know or like Sonic, Cream is still popular within a recognizable margin. Both beta tests prove this
>Roblox
People already answered this here, you had no real response to why Cream has a separate audience of non sonic fans in the horror space and defaulted to screeching muh pedos
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>mariopedo melty all along
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>>538830119
don't watch her show, read fanfics about her and come to confusing conclusion about her so that you can feed the thread with healthy debate
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>>538796626
What do you know? Can't go a single mention of Sonally without Sonamy. Prime ragebait legacy.
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>20+25
>creamfags still being accused of being pedophiles
Good to know things still haven't changed on here for years. I remember this being spammed years ago.
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Shadally
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>>538829904
Why does cream being popular upset you knuxfag? Hate seeing that people prefer a cute rabbit girl over the autistic tard and his rock? Hate that Shadow stole everything from him? Hate that even Jet after 20 years being MIA is more popular than Knuckles. Knuckles is a failure of a character even worse than Silver
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Cream canonically laughed at "Chicken Jockey!!"
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>>538826854
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There is no better ship
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>>538830410
Truly, they do not like to chuckle.
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>>538801292
This.
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>>538802149
>possessive freak
Really now?
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>>538801593
You should also understand that people don't have to respect it.
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>Sonamybesties seething that comic characters like Surge have a more interesting dynamic with Sonic
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Cream is a very antisemetic character. You can tell she hates jews, which is why I love her.
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>>538831076
>dude what if sonic was... and girl and evil?
Woah, so this is the amazing "depth" of the comics
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Hi did I dream up the IDW history bonus feature in Crossworlds?
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>>538803818
>the breeze that follows him
Tailssisters...
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>>538831223
Anon hates enemies to lovers? You probably hate the idea of characters actually falling in love instead of being obsessed from minute one
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>>538831149
Hitler would like Sonic
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>>538808150
Amy can't ever be ugly, that's the hardest thing to make her as unintentionally.
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>>538831392
Ive always said this.
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>>538812980
Best boy and best girl. Who'd thought?
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>>538824921
Cream is just sweaty. It's not that deep.
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>>538824942
lol, links? could use a laugh
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>>538820109
Tikal just came back.
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>>538818208
Nobody gives two shits about any of those, and Amy is going to be more elevated by 2027.
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>>538831149
>Mr.Sonic why does our government keep sending rings to Babylon Gardens?
Wooaaaaaah easy with the anti-Babylism cream
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A chao garden gacha with cream will revitalize the series
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>>538818686
We don't need Cream. And this wind statement is retarded when she's housed, has a authority figure, schooled, and a fucking curfew.
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To segway off this gay ass conversation, this existence of something like Outcome Memories basically makes it so that Sega will never have the mobile audience they want. Kids are playing multiplayer fangames that are better than anything they could ever make.
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>>538828149
Cream isn't popular, she's just broken. Stop deluding yourself over a spin-off slop statistics.
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>>538832295
>Being WINDpilled means being a homeless orphan
Holy shitbrains how do you still not get what wind is?
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>>538832501
>>538832295
>>538832116
>>538831886
Cope and seethe
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>>538832441
If sega hired fandevs before they can do it again for .exe
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>>538831076
>talking about cream
>how can I make this about sonurge?
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creampedos will kill themselves when the next game features her and flops anyways
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>>538832546
Freedom is quite literally no restrictions. And Cream has those.
>>538832573
Fuck you. They need to get Amy right first before even considering adding another to the circle.
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>>538831295
Yes, I do like classic tales where the girl falls for the MC from the beginning because Sonic is all about old fashioned.
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>>538832501
creampedos would probably tell you cream is a popular character and use advance 2 as evidence because she's babby mode in that game lol
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Hard pill to swallow for Knucklesfags and Amyfags
Neither of them are that appealing from a first glance. It doesn't matter how hard Sega shills these two if they can't get much attention from those who care nothing about their stories.

Character design matters. What does Shadow have over them? Dark, brooding, edgy, mysterious, things any nonfan can get just by looking at him. He looks cool and like a mirror of the protagonist. Easy and simple.

What does Jet have over them? Already looks like a smug jerk from design as well as being one of the only true shittalkers in this game instead of the safe smacktalk everyone else gets. Smug, shittalking rival. Easy and Simple.

What does Cream have over them? She's cute. It's really simple, but exposes a larger issue wit Amy. Amy is not interesting or cute from a glance for a girl character. Ugly Karen bobcut, tiresome nag that Jet absolutely BTFOs, etc. She's pink, but has absolutely nothing going on for her in the cute department which turns females away. Cream on the other hand is ultra cute by default of being a bunny girl and her ears emulate long hair (something you see females always giving amy in fanart because they know it looks cuter). Cute pet, cute design, actual cute mannerisms. You don't need to know anything about Cream, she's appealing by default.

Knuckles is a weird niche creature on the other hand, his whole thing is guarding a rock and him being rival to Sonic got eclipsed by Shadow ages ago. Its also why the movie boost did nothing for him since Shadow usurps his role and beats him down in movie 3. Amy is a hedgehog that has none of the cool factor all the other hedgehogs have and as a girl character, has nothing (anymore) that makes her appealing to girls from a glance. She's the pink girl character, but she's nowhere near as cute as Cream.

Amy and Knuckles are just too diluted to be popular with many these days. Same could be said for Sonic and Tails if it werent for being the main character duo.
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Alota
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>>538832768
>Seething Amyfag doesn't realize her role is to be the mature second mom to Cream now.
NuAmy is the future, it's time to let go
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>>538833064
The Knuckles show outperformed Star Trek's latest offerings.
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>>538833227
Alota Fagina
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>>538833264
And it doesn't matter because Shadow overlaps with his role and is infinitely more popular. That's why he's the one being touted as Sonic's main rival in crossworlds instead of Knuckles.
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>>538833064
>What does Cream have over them? She's cute. It's really simple
So is Amy, the defacto cute one so much so it's integral to her character that gets stepped in if your design for her isn't cute enough by Sega's standards. Saying Amy isn't cute is just retardation, and the rest of this reads like ragebait, anyway. Cute isn't at all part of Cream as much as it's Amy's defining trait.
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I will commission your fav being spitroasted by Big and Froggy
And your fav will wear a leather costume
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>No restrictions
>Sonic would be windpilled if he randomly started killing people because hey, hes still playing by his own rules heh B^).
Being free as the wind is a mental thing, not a physical thing. Cream is free. She does what she loves, she likes being a good girl and being responsible and adventuing and helping people, she's living true to herself. Shes shown to be more than capable of disregarding rules or orders in order to do what she wants to or what she feels she has to. She also doesn't like being ordered around, especially if her capabilities or maturity comes into question, she doesn't like being treated as a child, basically. Just because it's easy to restrict her (she's six, keep in mind) doesn't mean her soul is restricted.
That's basically my point, she has a free spirit.
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>>538833259
Pat Casey is literally going to pull the strings and steer her character post-2027.
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>>538833471
I'm not ragebaiting, I'm being honest. Amy's definite factor SHOULD be being cute, but I'm saying Sega has failed in emphasizing that as of late that now Cream is more appealing to women and children that the defacto main girl. Cute isn't apart of Cream's character, she just is because she's just made up of cute factors that appeal to females. Something that has been lost with Amy for a while since they started retconning her.
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>>538833264
Sonic also never won a single physical fight with him in the movies.
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>>538833650
*than the defacto main girl
Cream's popularity is just further exposing the recent problems with Amy.
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>>538833471
>Amy is cute
>The violent retards with a bob cut and nagging mom voice is cute bro believe me. She's pink that means cute please bro she's the cute one I swear look at her big gogo boots I know they took her pantsu shot away and they keep nerfing her into an obnoxious girlboss don't need no man but I swear shes still the cute one.

Here's my rebuttal
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>>538833773
>>538833773
>>538833773
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Classic Amy is cuter than Cream ever was
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>Sega has failed in emphasizing that as of late
Disagree, there are more than just mediocre writing from a tard that doesn't want to understand her out of resentment for her femininity.
You're saying Cream is appealing to these people but all I see is just a chart for how they play and hear next to no one talking about her dialogue other than Vectilla fuel.
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>>538833778
Amy will never be replaced. Consider Takeo is still voicing her consistently, and even Cindy in TSR carries so much spunk that she's proven she can do but the English voice director is just abysmal as of Frontiers. Everyone said Cream's new voice was shit in Dream Team.
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No one answered my question if I dreamed up the update to Crossworlds.
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>>538833853
Kill yourself
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>>538820109
Almost zero anon
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>>538856939
Tails the dead flop of a character.



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