mog editionThreadlocked: >>538739254>Latest patch:https://forums.playdeadlock.com/threads/09-04-2025-update.80693/>Steam Page:https://store.steampowered.com/app/1422450/>Where to leave feedback and report bugs:https://forums.playdeadlock.com/>How do I git in?Post your Steam profile and ask. You need to accept a friend request to be invited, so don't be a sperg.>How do I git gud?Do the tutorial, get a feel for each hero in sandbox mode, explore public item builds, watch replays. Playing a Hero for the first time will put you into a lower rank game*, so don't worry about it too much.Additional Resources:>Unofficial Wikihttps://deadlock.wiki>New Player Guidehttps://docs.google.com/document/d/1lMBE7Nli_sVJ42d-kPHjF3MBaXZdIM46gNJQC_fMGMU/edit>Advanced Movement Guidehttps://www.dlmovement.wiki/>Unofficial Stat Trackerhttps://statlocker.gg/https://tracklock.gg/>Unofficial Voiceline Viewerhttps://deadlock.vlviewer.com/
When are they adding the tranny skeleton hero
YOU NIGGERS SAID VYPER WAS NERFED INTO THE DIRT SO WHY IS SHE STILL RIPPING THROUGH TEAMS
Mina feels real fun rn ngl. Hopefully they don't nerf her.
>>538820223Initiate bro...
When are they adding the wolf tengu hero?
>>538820336fuck off furfaggot tranny.
>>538820184When are they adding a techies hero
when are they adding the gay nigger from outerspace hero
I love playing support viscousI love when people thank me after saving them from a certain deathI love being able to save my teammates from their decisionsI love being the lowest net worth of the team with everyone praising me instead of flaming meI love the cube
The black wοman of Valve unοriginality.These are TWΟ different characters.
>>538820673Buy trophy collector mr support cuck
>female samurai>female sheriff>female mechanic>female assassin>female sniper>female mob
>>538820319i've started ulting at ground level to secure 1 off kills in lane when enemies are playing passivelyit throws people off guard a lot since they're so used to minas that just fly in the air and can take cover under bridgebuilding lifesteal on her is a waste when you have so much sustain on her 1 when you can be dumping spirit into her for rake/bat damageher ult's cooldown feels really low for the damage and especially silence you get on it for freefeels like an "anti-jungle" in the midgame that can very easily solo retarded powerfarming haze/infernus inside enemy camps being actively cleared and can quickly get out to other stuff on the mapher squishiness doesn't matter once you get comfortable with her since you're dodging and canceling a lot of shit with her 2, including knockdown and any other stuns out there
>play paradox>build 3(three) gun items>deal more gun damage than everyone on the teamheh, nothin personnel kid
>>538820406That's not a furry.
>>538821161>trophy collectorIsn't that a meme, every time I see it mentioned people call it a noobtrap
I bring you guys a Paige doodle! Been playing her a lot, she's fun! McGinnis is still my main tho, might doodle her next.
>>538821575cringe and reddit
>>538821575What's with the weird tumor on her face
>>538821575Great and wholesome>>538821676Thats her nouse methinks
>>538820673based slimebro>>538821575cute, reminds me of chris sanders
>>538821393It is a noob trap in the sense that it's a complete waste of money if you're not getting stacks. But if you are, it can be great. It's especially good on supports because assists are evidently easier to get than kills, and the stats it gives benefit supports a lot (HP, movespeed so you can be more active across the map and ability range). It's nice if you get it relatively early, but you shouldn't prioritize if you're struggling
>>538821978It takes like 10 assists before it actually makes it halfway passable stats wise as a 3k buy and the souls gained typically don't do much except pay off what you already wasted on it, I understand you want to make it work but let's be real with ourselves it's a shit item and you only buy it for dopamine hits
Sometimes when I come off the zip line I'm going really fast and sometimes I'm not. I remember months ago that you're supposed to crouch off the zip instead of jump, but honestly that doesn't seem to be the trigger. I do crouch nearly every time and I don't know what it is that lets me zoom off of ziplines
why does lash get the utility of his slam dragging you down from the airit's so janky and the whole point is that being in the air is supposed to counter him
fixation should wear off twice as fast as it currently does
>>538821202I keep thinking about this, when Dynamo gets his body back and Geist becomes young and stops aging, They will be just humans that can just be killed by any common mugger not to mention Drifter. Or do they? Do items they bought works on normal humans?
>>538822183Because it's literally his only source of damage. His flog does pretty much nothing.
>>538822183He only does that if he hits you during the fallHis ground slam is already fucked enough with every little elevation change completely nullifying
>>538821202>>538822258Didnt mean to reply
>>538822258McGinnis exists, you fucking retard. So much for all your thinking.
>>538821393it's good on active supports (if youre able to get kills on your team)
>>538822245Seekerbro..
>>538822245Siphon bullets too
>the only Asian dude is a manlet chink that's confused for a chick lmao
>>538822352>have to hide for 11 seconds when fights can be over in 2yeah seems good
Paige makes every lane miserable, it isn't even that she's especially strong she's just fucking annoying and can stall like crazy
>>538822545>manletisn't they like average height among the human cast?
>>538822621He wears lifts
>>538822545Which Asian hurt you?
>my lane partner, Billy, dives and dies five times>one time we kill one of the enemies but then Billy, at 30% HP and no ult, rushes a 90% health Mo&Krill near their tower>starts complaining in all chat about me "not helping" and spamming the "Thanks" command every time he diesThank god my team had a smurfing Haze who practically won the match by herself>Billy had 4.3k player damage and 0 object damage at the end of the match
>Another game lost at load inpleasepick phaseim begging you icefraud
>>538822675No Asian can hurt me, I'd knock them out with a single American punch.
>>538822731What was it? What the heck does a guaranteed unwinnable matchup look like in this game?
>>538822786I'm not saying
>>538822786it looks like having 0 gun characters so dealing objective damage is impossible
>abrams at 20 minutes is farming jungle camps and not helping us teamfight or pushing out lanes>for a total less than 600 souls he lets two walkers diehate "people" like this so fucking much, at least push a wave
>>538821393it's a noob trap because people put it in builds and noobs buy it 95% of the time even with a leadthere's exactly one time when you should buy it: you're playing an extremely high basekit mobility character in a support role that can rack up assists very quickly and benefits from both the speed to escape and the spiritif i'm playing stake vindicta and win my lane very early, i shove to walker, tell my lanemate to take camps, force buy it before anything else, and go help other lanesi haven't found another hero where delaying your items on the off chance of a payoff is worth it, since vindicta benefits a lot from the speed and you're not the one mainly doing damage anyway and instead just applying slow/fire rate reduction/healing reduction on the enemy team super early while your team engages at a closer rangemaybe lash as well? it's entirely dependent on whether you're confident you can keep a snowball going and you're okay with being useless until you get 10+ stacks
>>538822740
>>538822843from both the escape and the spiritmeant "and the souls*"they add up fast if you get stacks quickly and effectively allows you to ignore lanes/vaults at key opportunities for kills/assists since you'll have some base income
>>538822867me on the left
>>538822815Objectives are immune to spirit damage? First I'm hearing of that
>>538823074Aside from Mina's ult with spirit burn AND assuming there's no enemy hero near the objective that takes damage from the spirit burn to put it on cooldown, there's not really any other way to spirit shred a tower faster than a gun nigger.
>>538822545back the fuck off?!
>>538823161Do you have tourettes?
>>538823339Do you have downs?
>>538823074no point in arguing with the disingenuous
>>538821326>cat ears>tailfuck off furfag.
>holliday STILL doesn't have freckleswhy does valve hate their playerbase?
>>538823386She already is a canon blacked whore, that's good enough for her cuck fanbase.
Freckles a shitA SHIT
>>538821231Yeah cool down with spirit is the move. Her 1 does stupid damage too.
>>538823384You could've used another word than "impossible" y'know.
>>538820120'emmy>>538820406>>538823385BASED>>538821575Cute. Should be a spray.
>>538823450get help sincerely
>>538823490You could stop being a fucking retard.
>>538823490compared to a team with actual gun characters? yeah it kinda is
>>538822691Your fault for not going in bozo. Wkeying people is fun being passive is beta energy.
>>538823519but he's right
>>538823537Just trying to help. No need to blow a gasket.
>>538823519But I'm right.
When we getting a crazy grenade launcher with a motorcycle character? True kino right here.
>>538823707This is "kino" only if you are 12
We should get a character that gets stronger the more souls he has.
>>538823707>dude when are we copy pasting junkratBack to overwatch, fag
>>538823707This image is so shitty looking. It's like a retard with no taste mashed junkrat with the joker.
what if mo'krill was like cho'gal from hots
Krill enslaved Mo
/v/ is laughing at us again
>/v/eddit
I want a sphinx or a griffon character. At first I was thinking a centaur but that's too fantasy and not very occult.
>>538822828AHHH NOW I HAVE AN AFK FARMING VICTOUS
I've realized part of my problem as a player is I keep gravitating toward builds that only become really powerful at like 25k souls, and if I fail to get early momentum I'm just fucking useless the entire matchI don't have any clue how to fix this, I know I could play a support role but when I do that I'm at the mercy of my team. MOBAs feel like a black box to me
>>538824227Dota has a lot of tuaroids so maybe
yuro lobby? Also today I discovered you could use fury trance after activating your ult as Haze
>I keep forgetting how much that STINKS!you guys downloaded the Stinktor mod, right?
>>538824435It's funny once but why would I want to hear the joke beaten into the ground over the course of a game?
>behind in souls>all our lanes are pushed up and immediate jungle by base has been farmed>if I push ahead to clear one (1) wave around the middle of the map Drifter instantly kills meI don't know what to DOOOOOOOOOOO
>>538824435>Updates and such can be found in the Deadlock Modding Discord
>>538823161lol. lmao.mina is the fastest tower/patron taker in the game.yeah, it's an ult, but it's up practically every minute. she is an insane splitpusher.also, please yoshi, don't give walkers spirit resist again, i beg you, i melt them like cheese in a microwave
>>538824482the unfortunate reality of drifter is that someone sort of has to be the sacrifical lamb, someone needs to be grabbing the side lane farm regardless of the risk and having that player group up to split souls with his team in other lanes is more damaging than just dying to drifter when he comes for you
>>538824482boxesif you think all the boxes are gone you dont know where all the boxes are
There's nothing as satisfying in this game as fully channelling Warden's ult on sub 100 HP and completely destroying the enemies who were mid-ganking you>Never show fear, no matter the odds!
>>538824482drifter is countered super early by just paying attention to the minimap and clearing camps together which you should be doing anyway rn because camp soul sharing is bugged and you get more souls doing them together unless it already got ninja patched
>>538824673it did get ninja patchedbut you should do camps together anyways because it's faster, don't be jewish
>if I don't personally make sure every lane is properly pushed we die to splitpushers because teammates have 0 game senseI'm tired of being a lane janny boss
>>538824776Ive embraced the lane janny role, it soothes my soul
>>538819697Just click them.
>>538824664
>>538824664How do you make use of Warden's ult? I still get killed easily while doing it.
>>538823786Nah this is based imagine if he had a Malkavian dialogue too.He could be a disgruntled mad scientist type that fairfax fired cuz he was too crazy>>538823803BETA>>538823815BETA
>lane partner has negative spacial awareness>gets mad when i start playing as passive as possiblepay attention nigger
>>538824776>Clean up lanes>Enable your team to win>Ascend ranks until you are matched with better players>Profit
>>538824664>>538825039I don't think that Warden is going to continue being a bobby after his eventual redesign.>Game is set in New York>No British accent>Not even an actual police officer
>>538825305And to add to this, his abilities still use a lot of Neon Prime visuals and sounds.
We need more heroes like Paige
>>538825101Basically don't use it as an initation tool on its own. Use your cage, slowing hex, other disables etc to initiate and get the drop on enemies. Only use the ultimate after the enemies have used their big ticket damage abilities, and always try to break line of sight before channelling; anyone with a stun or other disable will pick up on the super obvious visual/audio cue if you try to use it in the middle of a fight.
>move a bit forward to get the enemy guardian>one second too much and two guys are jumping on you>look at the map in your dying breath>your mate suddenly dissapeared to jerk off in the jungle
>>538824482tell your team drifter is going to gank you and bait him
>only carry on the team goes for a meme build>lose horriblyman
>>538824482just wait like 15 seconds for someone on the other team to push it into you. if they don't do it then neither team is gaining souls from that lane and that's fine too.i swear the people that play this game just love risking death for no gain.
>>538821575Cute Paige. Would play Victor for.
Game is actually unplayable past midnight, just gives you nothing but slobbering retards with a massive disparity in skill between teams
Will there be a doctor character?
>>538826090How curious it's only *your* team getting all these players! I wonder what the one constant your team has...
>>538821641you're the reason why all OC has devolved into OP's jak image
>>538826516yes, because having an ivy with sub 5k player damage and 0 objective damage in a 30 minute game is definitely winnable and was my fault
>>538826340If they do I hope it's not a retread of Medic's personality. Not because I don't like Medic but because trying to copy him would be too blatant and people would just compare the two more
>>538821641... But enough about you
>>538826829The point he's making, retard, is that you conveniently forget the games where the other team has the drooler Ivy and you win for free.
>>538827323and? the game is still unplayable if it's a stomp either way
>>538827351That I will concede. But close games are an impossibility unless the game turns into a tank meta. Someone will always get the fed carry and shitstomp the other team.As boring as they are to play without friends and to watch, metas where tanks are the most important class are always the least coinflippy.
>>538827506been watching some ancient anime recently and this captures the vibe, very nice
How to use Paige 3 most effectively? Seems like it's near impossible to get players with it. As soon as it gets down you just dash in literally any direction once and you're out. It takes just too long for it to activate for it to catch people. Maybe it would be too good if it were faster?
>The build editor bug is still not fixed
I saw that for some reason paige gets spirit scaling on heavy melee and decided to take melee paige for a spin, its working better then I thought but I dunno what items to buy past these
>>538827840the boring answer is combo it with knockdown or just buy a bunch of ability range items but you can also just use it as a zoning move to stop people from standing there, yolo it in a chaotic teamfight and hope people don't notice, or be really high IQ and notice when they're out of stamina before tossing it
So whenever people ask how to counter certain heroes, the answer is always "use CC".Is there any hero you CAN'T counter with CC?
>>538828067torment pulseresists for whatever enemy is doing most
>>538828123the cheapest solution is slowing hex before throwing it out at them.
>Average match wait time of 5 minutes
>>538828238if you blew your load on Mo or Victor their team should theoretically kill you for it
Shut this game down Yoshi nobody wants to play it
>Haven't played in a long time>Notice there's ranks now and I was sent to bottom of the pit Initiate 1.>Won most of my games even getting winstreaks and made it to Initiate 6>Next games had leavers and absolute numbskulls that play like bots>Get sent back to Initiate 2 after an almost neverending lose streakI will admit I am not good at this game and I know it's an Alpha but it just gets to a point. Now please laugh at my pain.
>>538829127Anon shares his pain
>>538829127I got to Seeker and INSTANTLY got hit by 6 abandons in a row and slapped back down to Initiate. I shouldn't play in the early hours of the day, I think.
the new item icons are less readable and they should go back to the old ones
>3rd game where i get melted to torment pulse calicogee idfk maybe she's a little overtuned rn yoshi
>>538829584git gud
>>538829584who were you playing and did you take spirit resilience
>>538829584your parry button sir?
>join official deadlock server>over 1/5 people are literal trannies, possibly morethey have HRT anniversaries in their descriptionI can see why people dislike discord i've never seen something like this before. Why are the gravitating to this game
>>538827685got some recs?
>>538829979>Tranny pronoun game>Has trannieswow what a shocker if I wasnt here to make fun of you deadtards I would be demoralized
>>538829979pretty sure that's just any discord server these days.
Decided to try Mina so that I won't be playing against her for once. While I was doing about as poorly as I expected, I was surprised that I wasn't doing the worst. My favorite part of this match was when like 4 of my teammates were chasing down Haze, Holliday grabbed her, and no one did anything about this for a solid 1.5 seconds, causing him to scream into the mic.
>>538831372Any tips for building her? I quickly threw this build together before the match, but I don't like how bottom heavy it is.
>>538831372based pick to ban metaMain reason I play drifter is because playing against him is pure aids. Can't roam at all with that nigga on the map
>>538831523This build looks bad and unfocused but I dont know enough about mina to know what to do. Maybe opening rounds + burst fire then just full spirit to finish people off
>win 5v6 hard countering a double bomb bebop with counterspell and turret build backdooring mcginnis with curseat last, i truly understand how2item
>>538831372Classic Hollyday ult
why are there so many dishonest gay nigger moves on some characters? Bebop hook, Talon charged shot, Calico ultimate, etc. They suck the fun out of the game. It isn't interesting or fun to get nuked for 300+ damage by Grey Talon when they're as far away as possible. I roll my eyes getting hit by bebop hook knowing I'm about to get completely ass raped since it repositions you, locks you in place for a moment, disables you abilites to dodge/etc, guaranteed bomb + uppercut afterwards, and also guaranteed to get hit by more abilities/bullets from their teammates (if they're there). It isn't challenging, fun, or interesting, it's just boring.
When are they nerfing victor and why is everyone that plays that character a complete faggot
>>538832572Only Calico ult is dishonest from what you mentioned.
>>538831372holliday ult is the most busted util ult in the game ASSUMING you tell your team when you're doing it and asking if they have burst for follow upotherwise, it's the "bitch and moan nobody did anything" button>>538832585they already did, how are you losing to him when anti-heal is eating him alive now that his aura is smaller?his winrate has fallen by like 4% in the past 7 days
>>538832407do not buy gun on mina. period
>>538832572Bebop's hook is the most honest ability in the game.He has ZERO way to guarantee it hits without a teammate, and it's useless if he uses items to do it because they're all too short ranged. He has to put 3 points into it for it to be an actual ability for humans. The longer range he fires it the more time you have to react when Valve could have been niggers and made the travel time flat regardless of distance or given it a faster travel speed. Even if he lands it only an easily-countered build actually gives him the means to 1v1 and kill you.
>average match length of my last 10 games is 42 minutes>50% winrate btwhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u_nPp64OrBcHow do I hypnotize the enemy team to finish us off when they're clearly in advantage instead of backing off 3 times so they can farm bullshit?
>>538832895What isn't dishonest about Talon 1? Yeah it's a skillshot, but does that really matter? It's extremely easy to hit when used in close/mid and also has a very fast projectile speed so at long range it isn't that hard either. Extremely easy to build into for massive damage and is off cooldown nearly all of the time also well as extra charges. It does more burst damage than most moves in the game. You are forced to counter it through items which may be better spent on other items.These kinds of moves just fucking suck to play against.
>>538833196...keep overextending on purpose and making sure your team is down 1 every fight?you're not one of those little bitches that complains and tells the other team to end, but will show up and stop the enemy from taking objectives, right?
>>538832895>Literally 0 (zero) lockout to prevent you from frame 1 ulting to become invincible after doing seven trillion damage with swipe + bomb + cold front to guarantee the ult hit and immediately doing it again once it ends because for some fucking reason it refreshes your cooldownswhat the fuck were they thinking
>>538833303I want this game to be improved so games don't run long, but I'm not going to throw or afk or feed or disconnect if that's what you're asking. I would rather just not play than throw a fit.
>>538833361ok, hypocrite.just keep your mouth shut and play the game then.
>>538833361*I would rather just not queue(As in play the game at all.)Especially since nothing new happens past the 10 minute mark! The map stays exactly the same.
>>538833316The black woman of valve originality, is what they were thinking
>>538833303>>538833476Weird hostile reaction to basic criticism. Do you enjoy 40 minute long games? Because to me it feels like filler past the 30 minute mark. The game's like one big stalemate. And I don't accept the handwave of "oh well you just need to get up to the top 10% of ranks then the game starts being reasonably paced" that's an insane defense!!
>>538833196>>538833361Have you thought about getting better so you win matches instead of crying about how the enemy won't finish on your face early ?
>>538833782well, if you KNOW the game is over why do you keep trying?you're the one apparently wasting his own time.i just see too many players with this mentality and they're always loud about them knowing the game is over in all chat but they're too cowardly to just let the game end and will resist to the very last health point.
>>538833782play a carry, learn the base mechanics and the map, and all of your games will be under 30min, guaranteedyou'll get the occasional 40min game, but 9/10 will be between 22 and 29 minutes
>>538832572>ummm being hit by abilities is dishonestlearn to use cover, buy things like warpstone, ethereal shift, counterspell can literally parry any predictable abilities you just sound mad cause you got outplayed
>>538833316It's fucking kino
Just had a most retarded game ever.The victor doesn't use 3, and doesn't go in front.He's hiding behind the team most of the time and is just shooting with his gun.Even when he has ult
Ever notice this guy in the tier 4 section of the Curiosity Catalogue?
>>538833224If he's far away it's pretty hard to land a shot unless you're a literal retard walking in a straight line toward him. If you're close then just attack him he's super low hp and killable. And no, even a full build grey talon has significant downtime after shooting his 4-5 arrows he gets.
>>538833813>>538833983>hurr git gudCalled it! What am I thinking posting feedback here instead of official channels? My b.Well if all you people have is the blame game, at least give better advice than "learn mechanics". I'm already playing a carry, getting fed, split pushing, shoving waves and taking objectives, using a mic to tell my team to be aggro when we have an advantage. All that shit. And I know the ranked system is fucked up or something now since it's a beta but honestly I don't see why low rank people should have to suffer boring long games.>inb4 no advice, doubling down, more creepy psychosexual stuff about facials
>>538834515The best way to end the game early is to never push first. Always try to bait them into fighting over urn or mid-boss. Running into mid walker is usually when games get dragged out. That place is the easiest place to defend in the game. Even easier than the patron. Never ever ever fight there without a huge advantage. If you can kill them outside of their walkers the game will speed up immensely. Once all walkers are dead it's very easy to end the game.
>>538834710I didn't check the numbers but I think most of those games had three (losing team) walkers dead ~10-15 minutes before the end. So I don't think that's it.
>play seven >farm farm farm >farmed enough>press 3>shoot enemies
>>538835502it really is the comfiest experience in this game, I just miss all the cheap spirit healing items you could get
How do I build Abrams this patch?
>>538834224schizobro...
>>538835502>Play drifter>Farm enough>Get some kills>Don't even need to use skills, just press LMB & shoot enemiesIt's much simpler and relaxing.
Yamato fed Shiv in lane, left the game, and then we basically got raped by him. And I still suck as Mina because I can't land my shots.
the chat wheel needs more slots.
Placed in the lowest rank and feel like im improving quite a lot after about 100 hours but it seems quite impossible to rank up unless you're hard stomping because every other game you have a leaver or some fresh boomer FPS lane partner
Is reload times global or are there differences? I imagine there are but they are subtle or small. Victor's gun feels like it takes longer than others and even feels like it has a charge up time, just without an indicator.
>>538838839there's an annoying bug where it stores every communication so sometimes you say yes to the enemy
>>538825305new york police looked like that in the early 20th century, but they've also said as muchhe's getting turned into a caped vigilante from voicelines
>>538838941oh that's what that is
>>538824664Warden is the ultimate reverse rapist. I fear him and only him. t.drifter murderhobo>>538838917abrams can reload one bullet a time...
>>538838012why would you stay in a game with a leaver, especially after he fed such an annoying hero like shiv?>
>>538838012that's why the whole "skill issue" debate in MOBAs is idiotic when you got feeders which then leave
God Shiv looks so fucking retarded. It's like someone took a giant steaming piece of shit and put it on a monkey's head
>>538825305>>538839032I want at least one cop character.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x_qHkg0PXEoThis Sean Connery role comes to mind.
The Face of Cursed Apple
Who is the absolute tankiest character?
>>538839032>but they've also said as much>he's getting turned into a caped vigilante from voicelinesThats stupid He should stay as a copper
>>538840007Abrams by far
>>538839380I think Abrams' is the only gun that does that, no?
what are the basics of item building in this gamefollowing public builds L-R doesn't really feel like it's cutting it but i'm not sure what's worth focusing on and what isn't at any given moment, the public builds are mostly just "here's the build" with little explanation on why it's good (which is more important if you're trying to learn)the only other moba i've ever played with any regularity was heroes of the storm so i am just not used to items and the "new player guide" in OP if i'm not mistaken was just a terms glossary
>>538840262read nigga read
>>538838917they aren't global, i think vyper has the fastest reload and it's very noticeably faster than others, and mcginnis has the slowest
>team down>win team fight on top of mid, board is not 6v1>"let's go midboss">desperately trying to kill it while everyone is taking their sweet time>realize they're pushing blue walker>enemy team still has 4 dead, ask if they can go mid now>3 people go green that's pushed up to middle line>1 person goes yellow that's pushed even further up>lash shows up>we get it down to a sliver before mina finally shows up and ults us>"why the fuck didn't we go mid">lash blames me for giving them midfor the love of fuck, if any of you people are doing this, it's why you're losing gamesif you sweep a team fight on top of midboss and don't go midboss while all of your lanes are pushed, you are FUCKING retarded and deserve to lose your gamesyou can kill walker 30-40%+ faster with midbuff, and midboss takes 30s tops if 4 or more people are therethe FUCK are you guys doing
>>538840262>heroes of the stormNever played. If you have never played mobas it's going to be impossible to teach you everything in a single 4chan reply. There's many things to consider when it comes to items. I'd boil them down to:>What makes my hero better at doing their role?>What makes me survive better vs the enemy heroes?>What are the enemy building? How do I counter that?>What items do I need to stay ahead of souls?>What items do I need for the build I'm doing?>What build should I go for to best help my team?>What is my team lacking? CC? Damage? Gun? Spirit? Can I one of those roles?etc.
>>538840262Some guides have text on each item on mouseover saying why you want them. Try different ones.There's lots of items but it's pretty obvious what you want: Damage, survivability, more casts, lower cooldowns, etc.
Characters being good purely because they can farm better and have higher levels is so so so fucking stupid and i'm so sick of it. There is literally no counterplay to a seven or mcginnis who can flash farm your entire jungle and then melt objectives instantly. What is the fun in that? Speaking of melting objectives, how the fuck haven't they fixed spirit burn mina ult yet?
>>538840823>guidesI mean public builds, the ones in-game.
Now this was a peculiar game. I'm Seeker 1. How is this Initiate 1 on average?
>>538840856you can counterspell the end of seven's stun, it's real funny when you do it and they blow all their cooldowns thinking you'll be stunned but you just walk out of the wayalso, don't allow them in your camps, push them out if you cansomeone hitting just sinners will be at 40% to 60% health and it allows you to get the upper hand on themthe only way they're outfarming you is if they're in a lane alone for a very long time or they're destroying your camps
>>538840774>Never played.top-down moba, but has more of a skill tree system in place of a shop system, where at certain level intervals you're given a choice between 3 (sometimes more) different upgrades, each upgrading an ability or some granting new active abilities. usually they're unique changes that can alter a playstyle rather than just number tweaks, such as bonus casts of a spell under certain conditions or adding a sweetspot that deals increased damagethe idea of building for comps to cover weaknesses, fill a certain role, or improve strengths still remains it's just the deadlock-specific game sense i'm lacking ini guess i've also played overwatch stadium but that's only really relevant insofar as having a shop system
>Buy those shitty 1600 & 3200 items>Get fucked by enemy hard>Ignore those shitty items and go straight for the t4 6400 items>Out damage the enemies and win every fight easilyI don't get it.
I don't think any of the new heroes are good>Mina>Another boring M1 hero that has like one kind of fun ability>Gets cucked hard by slowing hex>Paige>Unironic overwatch-tier support cuck character that is ass cancer for the game. Extremely hard to beat when she's on defense because of her CC, wave clear, and shield/ult heals>Doorman>Nothing bad on paper but in reality is basically ez mode piss baby version of a paradox combo stun combo, portals are cool but also just make him impossible to lane against if he utilizes them well to safely push lanes or pressure from afar>Victor>Retarded late game hard carry that literally soaks up 3+ minutes of your entire teams time to kill and no "le anti-heal" is not some epic hard counter, especially since people started using e-shift on him>Drifter>lol, lmao evenNone of these characters feel like they're what the game needs other than arguably doorman since his ult at least on paper, is a necessary counter to certain problem ults but when you have his whole kit it's just mega ultra ass cancer to play against.
>>538841526say you're a low elo powerfarming nigfernus that never gets punished without actually saying it
wasn't there some character with no ammo but a heat mechanic he had to manage that was leaked over a year ago?where is it? i hate reloading.
>>538841175....who said I had a problem with seven's stun? This has nothing to do with their CC. It's all about their ability to farm extremely hard and push objectives extremely hard. >don't allow them in your camps, push them out if you canAlmost like you missed the part where I specified flash farming. They'll be in and out of your jungle before you're aware they were there. You'd need two people already in the jungle when they roll in to be able to punish them. You clearly have not played against good seven's and ginnis'
>>538841710doorman's cart is unironically harder to hit that the paradox masturbation comboit's to the point people run knockdown and/or arctic blast to guarantee it
What is CC?
>>538841710Mina is not an m1 hero...
>>538842006CC is current code, as in Melty Blood Actress Again Current Code, the greatest fighting game ever created.
>>538841398>deadlock-specific game senseFamiliarize yourself with neutral camps, trooper waves, guardian pressure, sinners, mid boss, urn and how/when to push base. That's the macro sense.Then there's map movement or micro sense. >Dashing/dodging (stamina and stamina items). >Wall jumps (free stamina). >Teleporters. >Edge jumps. >Slide jumps. >Melee combat (light punch/heavy and how to use heavy to get to places). >Momentum and how to keep it or increase it. >Boxes and golden statues; where they are and good routes. I'm going far beyond what I usually do so here's some short videos: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/wJzLYAUP2e0https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SA8Ps-Rv4yghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oQLeztW7tFshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=COBS1AC_itUhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4kdsGuncqSEhttps://www.youtube.com/shorts/Ei1NF9q9zIYOP only covers basics and is outdated because the trannies who remake these threads aren't actually good players.
>>538841710you forgot about billy
>>538841810I mean, I AM low rank.But i don't get why buying 1600 & 3200 items are bad and 6400 items are actually more effective in out damaging enemies.
>>538842006The pizza girl from code geass
Just came back to the game after about a year, what does Billy provide that's different from Abrams?
>>538842360Abrams is a lot easier to visually track.
>>538821575Based and 4chan
the lash used to do an uppercut
>>538841980cart is not hard to land when you set it up after ulting someone that's why i'm comparing it to a paradox combo because it banks on you using ult but again doormans ult is lock-on so you can't miss it unless you literally die before it finishes. >>538842289Shows how much I care about him but Billy literally feels like a better version of Abrams. Billy doesn't have to commit to a full melee to get the benefits of every melee item in the game and his sustain is 10x better than Abrams as long as he can hit slams (which are not at all hard to hit). Retarded ult that pulls you through walls for no good fucking reason. Literally more braindead AND more powerful than abrams. What is the point???
>>538842289best art of him
>farm all game as victor avoiding fights for most of it>endgame just fucking RUSH headfirst towards enemy and winxd
>>538842265>unironically linking shorts instead of the regular video
Is there any way to make Victor impactfull at less than 30k souls, or do I just need to "seven-farm" up to that point?
>>538842894>unironically making this into a big deal when it isn't when anon can easily find more if he wants to
>>538842953Gun victor. Also pain batter does crazy good burst if you build into it early to mid game
>>538833361It doesn't run long unless the winning team is sandbagging or bad.Try playing the objective instead of meandering for a half hour.
>>538841710Doorman is dogshit tier while Paradox is pick or ban material.
Why does Seven get a fuck you stun nuke on top of his aoe ult
Ok any tip for billy? How easy is it to faint a heavy to bait a parry CD
>>538843286Yeah, but gun vic has no where near the power of tank vic late game...
>muh flash farminglook at the map every now and again and don't let you shit get pushed up and you'll be fine
>Doors are shit until max upgrade >Cart is shit until max upgrade>Bells are shit after lane>Worse Mo and Krill ultMaybe you are just supposed to build gunman
>>538843904>look at the mapGame doesn't have wards numbnuts, you know you can just go into the enemy jungle without having to show up in lane right>>don't let you shit get pushed upYeah just make sure every 6 of your teammates never let lanes get pushed past the half way point, genius tech! the enemy will never be able to do anything about it!
>>538844018>>Worse Mo and Krill ultCan't imagine the levels of retard you have to be to believe this
>>538844174WE NEED TO STOP THEIR SNIPER
>>538844174
I cannot fucking play anyone without CC
>>538844197Yeah I guess piling a guy after six seconds and giving vastly more ways to respond is better than instantly raping him to death right then and there
>>538843658Billy is literally just Abrams with an early game.
>>538844528still no info hjere
>>538844620Play him exactly like Abrams.Play against him exactly like Abrams.
>>538844174fuck off weeb nigger
>>538844174reminder this poster sent his dick to the 'ecker to post this kind of shit
>>538844018his ult is fantastic when you aren't retarded and use it on the person that is fed, at full hp, and about to fuck shit up, instead of kill-sniping an already-guaranteed kill that can't do anything anymore and has 100hp leftfriendly reminder you have built in unstoppable on the t3 of his ult
>>538844249There actually aren't that many heroes that don't have CC (if we're also excluding basic movement slows). Off the top of my head, shiv, victor, pocket, calico? I guess you could technically count kelvin but his slow is a bit more special and dome is like soft CC
>>538844174Bang~
>>538844342That's what itemization are for bro :)
>>538844174The left sure is inclusive and all for peace.
>haha just don't get close to a wall next to Abraham
>>538845027>>538844724Gets easier every time
How to fix Vindicta >ger rid of that forehead triangle, bootleg Doctor Manhattan. If it makes her look too much like the fourth generation descendant of Sylvanas, just un-drow her remodel>change that wacky ass gun to a bolt action, can hold down to fire but requires cycling the bolt between rounds, fire rate bonuses make the bolt cycling faster>to compensate for poor effect on hit build potential, give her more damageThanks
>play Abrams>both teams posturing for a fight>perfectly wall the enemy carry after book-dropping their entire team>my team ran the other direction instead of following me inEvery fucking time.I'm just gonna play Billy and drag the enemy team into mine instead. At least that way they can't run the wrong direction.
>>538845514Talon is far more broken than Vindicta.>His 1 does more damage than most skills in the entire game>has almost no cooldown>insane scaling>it's not even an ultimate>does more damage than Vindictas ultimate>goes through everything>5 billions charges>with 0 spirit investment does 1.2k spirit damage 10 minutes into the game>still has trap, insane ultimate that gives free spirit on kills and best flying ability in the game that allows dodging mid airbroken
Is there natural bullet resist? I had a Vindicta build where I was doing like -80% bullet resist but it started to feel redundant
>>538845697I wouldn't mind if his ult didn't give a spirit dmg but simply a drone strike bonus
>>538845514Give her double proc instead of more damage. Otherwise her build potential will be limited like Haze.
>>538845524get fucked furfag
>>538846127Yes, please?
>>538845127you can also jump over him when you see him coming.
>>538845127>double jumps
>win skirmish with teammates>they all scatter off instead of getting the walker
>>538845524kill yourself
>>538846262No.Okay, what now?
>>538846240how many enemies did you kill? if they still have like 2 or more defenders you aren't going to do shit to that walker, especially if the mid one is the last standing one.taking the enemy's jungle is a better use of the enemy's respawn timer.
>>538846389Especially if the enemy team has a Haze, Seven, Victor, or other farm-dependent carry.
>fight Shiv and Abrams in lane>they both keep trying to go for heavy melees even after getting parried thrice
>>538845950I hate skills that gain stacks, period. Bebop, Mina, Vindicta, Talon, Drifter, Mo&Krill etc. it's boring because you can't see their stacks in-game so you don't know how much the enemy has and it just promotes spiraling out of control. You can lose a game because a stupid egotistical Haze on your team constantly feeds a Drifter because they got outplayed once and try to kill them but die 10 times to them. It's frustrating.
had a game where my calico was wondering why i was never in their petty midgame fights that win nothing and complaining about me farming. guess who won us the game? i literally just fucking run it down and kill their squishies. the victor high is something else
>>538845697I'm not complaining because Vindicta is too strong, but she's a one trick pony and boring to play and doesn't feel enough like a sniper.
>>538846574The problem is that they also gain it on assists
>>538846632
>>538846786>the vindicta modclassy
Y'all weren't there.
>>538846785Some of them have time limits like if you damage them with the ability that scales and they die withint 3 seconds from another source it still counts. It's not just assist anon.
>>538847030I was, and it was shit.
>>538846786>enemy team stands in range of a spirit victor late gameMany such cases...
>>538847030Shit site and ranks STILL do not matter at all in an alpha game. You can hide them in the options and nothing will change. Obsessing over "elo" is as retarded as obsessing over game achievements or the score they give. Retarded.
>>538847030I was.Unfortunate that I skipped the winter event and missed the snowglobe.
>everyone plays spirit vic>gun vic is betterHuh...
Is this game like early LoL where nearly everyone can go magic or damage, or is everyone pretty slotted into one or the other
>>538838917
>>538847656Deadlock Wiki? Thanks btw.
>>538847554There are characters that can do either, but most are specialized.
>>538847554The specialized characters can benefit from dipping into the thing they're not specifically meant for. Have fun!
>>538847656Is Vindorkta worth getting rapid reload on?
>>538838917Flame Dash looks so stupid.
Variable needs Medium Pen.Epoch needs the Explosion/Impact spread to be 80/20 instead of 50/50 abd a 10m range instead of a 4m range.Laser Turret needs 2x the heat capacity.
>>538847919Wrong thread...I need coffee...
>>538847919I don't trust the devs that released the blue ball failed orgasm known as Solo Silo to ever balance anything to be fun again
>>538847656>sorted by highest to lowest>randomly goes from 2.35s back to 2.9salways knew mina was someone's favorite for no reason.
Why is this game so woke and shit? Why are all characters so uninteresting and shit? Honestly just shut it down
my face there please.
>>538847919eh I still prefer the branx pickaxe
>>538848205This
>>538842593>It appears that, at some point in development, he really did fight with uppercuts, as an ability named Shoryuken was datamined.HOLY KINO
>>538848205I shan't play League of Legend chang
>>538848280Highly unfortunate voicelines though. Wish there was a mod to mute them.
>>538822545Based, feminine men and pocket players should not exist
>>538848280Is this where the noxious green fire comes from
>>538848205I refuse to partake in League of Legends, Wong.
cool how the orb minigame has been simplified to irrelevancy and is also a design crutch against pure melee characters
>>538848713denying has always been a shit mechanicyou can still do it, just play a fat character and jump into the air to block them when they pop up.
>>538848713>has been simplified to irrelevancyPlease try to plink at me at range while I deny you all lane
>>538848205I agree, delete Paige and Mina, they are making the game woke and tranny coded. Add 2 more bara chads instead
>>538848205I agree, turn calico into a red hair white female.
I think Paige is not healthy for the game. She can pretty much defend lanes solo and she drags out every game to 45-50 minutes.
>>538849370>reverse Disney/Marvel effectAcceptable.Alternatively: make her like this.
>>538848157Mina has the lowest DPS
>>538849513Daily reminder to kill yourself furfag>>538848713The altenative is being at the mercy of your ping vs the enemy ping and losing lane at a minute 0.
Well, I just got into an irrecoverable losing streak. No matter how many games I grind out from here on, I'll never fix my winrate. Every game had a leaver or rager, too. Let me tell you how much I've come to hate Drifter players.
>>538849443I love Paige on either team because she lets me actually come online.t. Seven/Victor player
>>538849513I would be ok with that.
>>538849856No. I'm at 33 losses in a row.You're a little tiny baby.You're in an alpha, and they've already stated that there will be account resets going into beta and then public release (likely open beta).Just play the game, have fun, and learn.Record/MMR doesn't mean shit now.
>>538850153Oh, that's good to know.
BROOOOOOOOOOOOOL
>>538848157it isn't reading decimals correctly and thinks that 2.5 is a smaller number than 2.35 because 35 is higher than 5. if you edited it and added a trailing 0 to the end it would probably sort correctly though it would look stupid.
>ally uses Bebop bomb, Pocket cloak, Infernus run, Seven ball, etc while I'm distracted>panic/dodge out of reflexDoes this happen to anyone else?
>>538843587anon that's not part of his kit
*Kills your Deadslop*
>>538851049>top down>Amazonlol!lmao!lmfao!roflmao!
>i put a bomb on my teammate just in case they get close to the enemy and because it has a 6 second cool down so it doesn’t matter>they spaz out and ask my why I did that as if me putting a bomb on them forced them to do anything
>>538849845good, why would anyone catter to third worlders?
>>538851049>Amazon Games
>>538849529DPS only counts physical portion. With her love bites she is by far the highest.
*Kills your game and saves moba*
>>538848157because the gun is ass bro
>>538851046He might've meant the free lightning strike that he gets.
>>538851049hero design looks cool
>>538848157Good luck hitting anything, Mina shoots like she's waving the thing around and going 'NYEHH' the whole time. So fucking annoying to try and stack Love Bites without Rake
I think it'd be way cooler if Doorman's ultimate didn't deal any damage at all and was a much longer Parkour section (so he could play the long voicelines) and being stuck in there forever is the only "utility" it has. And if you don't get out in one minute or whatever you just die.
>>538828238seven when they build infuser and just gun you down whether they ult or not anyway
>>538852682That's kinda what it was before but I guess people got filtered by the puzzle too hard
>>538852682I think getting removed from the game for a lengthy period would be way more OP in comparison
>>538852682>buy refresher>just take two people out of the game for a minute
>>538852907A Doorman ult isn't much longer than Shadow Demon or OD and those are spammable spells you get at level 1
>>538852483that doesn't do enough damage to be a nuke early game and doesn't even stun, original poster might just be miffed he got hit by the lightning then
icefrog I require more characters
>>538852907True but the idea is if you're a high mobility hero or have items (magic carpet or majestic leap = how you counter doorman) you can escape the baroness way easier. I can also see a fun situation where you get locked away and you purposefully don't come out for some time so your teammates can come and save you from getting wombo combo'd. Makes his ult more pure utility then spirit damage nuke. Combining that with refresher orb would probably be too cancerous though.
>>538852995We're not in Dota2
>>538852682The point of sending someone to the Baroness is to catch someone who has wasted their escape tools for free setup AND a big chunk of damage dealt to them, OR, to force an enemy to use their escape tools to prevent damage while providing setup to yourself or teammates.The idea here is that either you force an enemy to wait out the full duration, giving you all the time in the world to set up, in the HOPE that they can get away once they're checked out since they'll have all their stamina and escape abilities/actives still, or to bait them into using some or all of them in a bid to avoid the greater damage. Those who choose the latter are either acting on instinct, or betting they can fight their way out of the situation.
>>538853078Where's my ursa hero frost toad?
>>538853238The TTK is longer so if anything removal matters even less
>>538852682would be OP if it is longer than 10 seconds on averageeven 10 seconds is an insane amount of timebeing stuck there is basically dying, and maybe dying twice since you could get raped when you get out
Ice frog where's my spider guy in a trench coat with six arms who pulls out his other four arms for his ult to reveal a bunch of other guns and fire a fuckton of bullets in a box forward, infinite range. Yes it's Bebop ult but with bullet damage but you also get to run around and aim it. Now add it
>>538853814trapper died
>>538842610abrams is more a of traditional tank. billy is a disrupting bruiser. abrams can play frontlines, soak up abilities, and win games off of that or set up stuns and peel early on. billy is strong as hell but their strategies are different enough
>>538853814Kino.
>>538853078I had a dream two days ago where I saw new characters added to Deadlock >some sort of princess character with blonde hair and a blue dress carried in the hands of a gorilla>a mothman monster guy>straight up Dark Willow ported overMy dreams are highly prophetic visions so consider this a leak
>>538854025>mothman>Dark WillowMy erection would be a global catastrophe.
>>538853814Icefrog where is my classic FPS shooter protag hero with 8 gun slots and an alt gun option for each slot. No skills, only guns.
>>538841710>feel like they're what the game needsyou need to define what you mean by that. drifter ult is even stronger than doorman and he's much more effective than calico whose only gameplay was running in with burst and then running away over and over
>>538853958Playing Abrams as a tank is throwing
>>538853814this but instead of a guy it's a spider girl
>>538854025>a mothman monster guyA proper monster or a furryshit like B*lly?
>>538854270Flying characters wouldn't really work in this game unless heavily cucked
>win lane >take enemy tower>farm jungle>enemy team can now freely push your tower>can only hope your team mates react fast enough to defend the towerwhen will the frog add glyph?
>>538854624Full monster. I just specified male because I don't know if it's supposed to be male or genderless or whatever
>>538854524Dogshit idea, never post again
>>538854842>Full monsterBased.>I don't know if it's supposed to be male or genderless or whateverWell its a Mothman not a Mothwoman. Also original story mentions he's jacked and has red glowing eyes so there's that.
>>538852682That'd be way too fucked overpowered and create absurd seethe to just vanish somebody for like 20+ seconds
>>538823385>>538823514Holy samefagging reddit tourists
>>538855080A significant part of the playerbase would vote for Mothwoman instead.
Why did they make Doorman look so gay? Was that on purpose?
>>538856281Anon, I think you might be gay.
>>538854636No, my erection is because I want to fuck this forest dwelling creatures.
>>538854458I still run 3-4 gun items on abrams, he can still tank with them
>nerf his aura to be so small it can't reach anyone>nerf his self damage so you die to your own ability if you level it up>nerf his ultimate so you don't revive at full health>ok>ignore ultimate>ignore aura>never feed deaths and stay mobile and at full health>discourage ganks on you by being mobile and ultimate up>steal all enemy neutral farm>focus solely on farming, pushing and using personal rejuv to take objectives by force. >win gamesValve did this. It was fun being an unkillable death machine that rolled up but that is gone. Recommend me a hero that does what this does, but is better. I'm thinking Warden or Seven maybe? Tired of being a gimped gun build on a hero with 0 disables and slows that last 2 seconds or can't even reach the enemy and an ultimate that never catches anyone even when upgraded fully.
deadlock is fun when your team isn't retarded
>>538845737Some characters have resists that they gain gradually through level ups but it's not common. Also resists don't add up at a flat rate or w/e. Like 20% resist + 30% resist does not equal 50% total. idk how the actual match works to calculate the resist I just know you get less the more sources you're adding.
>>538856868Every game I deal most damage to neutrals. Efficiently going from camp to camp. His aura is nothing but a shitty neutral farming ability now. I do wonder if ritualist counts towards this damage when you use it on a big neutral.
>>538854363Drifter was self explanatory. Everything about him is just rape though seriously drifters ult is weirdly one of the best team fight ults in the game on a character whose identity is single target, I mean it technically makes sense in a single target kit but it's just far far too good at disrupting. He basically destroys specific team comps from being able to function properly for 9 seconds
>>538848205Trvth. Turn kelvin into an ice fairy.
>>538846786billy carried not you
>>538857920NTA but that has to be the most retarded take. You sound like you're malding hard and I wouldn't be surprised you give these moronic replies to anyone posting scoreboards. Shitter opinion discarded.
>>538858186you got the hero dmg, but object dmg wins you the game anon isn't wrong.
>>538852241post numbers
>>538858186nah he's the average /dlg/tard who only looks at objective damage
>>538821393It's really as >>538821978 says. You basically have to have a feel for the game flow and rhythm. It's not only whether it'll be worth it (getting +10 stacks within around 15 minutes) but also it needs to be worth delaying your items. There's a perfect timing to it where it won't hurt any momentum you have. Basically, I'll get it when there's a high amount of deathball brawls but there's a moderate to slow pace of the game. Even if it's constant, if people aren't constantly pushing then you can typically delay. If you're too far behind or at least one team is super aggressive then I would delay it. If you delay it until around 15-20 minutes then it's not really worth it.It's similar to cultist since if you can get that by minute 8 and immediately kill a big creep then you're on pace to have great farm, but you need to know that you'll have the space and time to make use of it.I like them both because I'm greedy and build them a lot if I can. TC is broken because just being in the vicinity gives you stacks and it's hilarious to be sitting at 10 with only a handful of assists. >>538849856Just go meme builds so the algorithm is forced to let you win.>>538850153>33Masonic memes.
>>538858760It's pretty simple math to do retard. You said it's the lowest and that is factually wrong and you are retarded for saying that. Own up or shut up.
>>538854524good idea, always post more
>>538858842>brool brain thinks he wins games by player dmg
>>538851049I played this. It's kinda cool but also kinda sloppa. Luv the emphasis on ordering groups of rts soldiers. Unfortunately for Amazon its not going to replace deadlock for me
>>538858186I watched the replay, honestly embarrassing display by the op
>>538858916You mad cause argument got destroyed. Keep being dishonest by only counting spell damage of Mina.
>>538859053you don't win games without killsgoing in 6v6 highground is prime throw material
>>538855538A significant part of the playerbase is wrong then. We need a proper nonhuman hero, like a Primal Beast in Dota2. >but what about the calls during the game?This would be a skinwalker territory, but make it sound like he's imitating human speech instead, with the rest of his voicelines being glowls and weird noises
>>538852241Yes, so her gun is the shittiest and she has to use one whole ability slot to supplement that.
>>538858760I didMina's DPS at level 1 considering both is 51. The lowest lvl 1 dps is actually drifter at 40, doorman at 41. Multiple others with a lower base DPS. At max lvl her dps is 107 which is pretty middle of the ground as far as max level goes.
>>538854524Great idea, please post again.
>>538859226>A significant part of the playerbase is wrong then. We need a proper nonhuman hero, like a Primal Beast in Dota2.We got like 5 vampires, a talking monkey and giant mole, blue demon guy and etc. what do you mean we already have plenty of nonhuman hero
>>538859287I would totally be OK if her Love bites was removed and gun damage buffed. Replace it with some shitty aura that damages her like Victor?
>>538851049this is ai
>>538859382probably meant non-humanoid
>>538859382>5 vampiresAll of them just humans with magic, nothing monstrous about it.>blue demon guyAbrams is an upstanding citizen, not a monster, bet he even pays taxes.>a talking monkey and giant moleOkay that one counts, but he still behaves and talks like a human. So no, we do not in fact have a real monster in Deadlock's roster just yet.
>>538859812Monsters can pay taxes. What you're asking is so stupidly vague I would be embarassed to be you and posting.
>>538859792I don't think Valve will make a non-humanoid hero in the game, they aren't being very bold when it comes to the hero design to begin with.
>>538859896>Monsters can pay taxesName one.>What you're asking is so stupidly vague I've listed an example already, you're being dense on purposehttps://www.dota2.com/hero/primalbeast
god I want to bash paige's head insuch a dumbfuck piece of shit hero
>>538859345That's not the highest as what anon said.
Let's stick togeth-WAAAAAUUUGHHHH
>>538860193>Name one.Abrams.>Primal beastI know who primal is and you're still being vague in what you want exactly.
>Lose games that I should've won>Lose games that I should've lost>Lose cause abandons>Lose when enemy has abandons>LoseI don't even know what I'm doing wrong. Every game I have a positive kda and I contribute to fights.
>>538860631Abrams is not a monster, would you call any guy a monster if he had a different skin color? Niggers don't count.>I know who primal is and you're still being vague in what you want exactlyAre you autistic? Honest question
>>538860696Try pushing lanes
>>538860967I am. I try to push lanes, my team starts a fight without me on the other side of the map. I don't push lanes, and I join my team, no one else pushes lanes and even if we win a teamfight, we don't capitalize on it in any way. Just had a loss where we stomped them hard early and mid game but choked mid boss. I can't do it, I can't take this shit no more man.
>>538860696Ignore kills, focus objectives. High kill count doesn't matter if you just lose. It's stupid greed. If you're a kill oriented hero like Drifter or Haze or Wraith, your main kills should be their carries and then you focus objectives. Always. Don't run into the jungle when there's a lane you can push or a walker you can kill. Souls gathered mean nothing if you don't push with them.
>>538861385if no one else is pushing literally unironically ignore the fights and just push on your own
>>538860802clearly they want every hero to have proper gameplay callouts so the best we're getting is something like wrecker
DRIFTER CAN NOW RUN ON ALL FOURSTHANK GOD
>>538861385>I try to push lanes, my team starts a fight without me on the other side of the mapgood? not every fight needs everyone
>>538861956I got an idea already>make it sound like he's imitating human speech insteadYou know what, we need a Bumblebee hero too, who speaks with the radio recordings or something
>>538860802You have to be autistic if your only request is >monster>just like primalWhen primal is not just a monster, they are also a beast. Had you been honest and said you wanted a non-verbal beast I wouldn't have replied to your mind bogglingly stupid post. Then you go on an autistic spree about Abrams or the heroes already in Deadlock not being beasts. Retarded.
>>538860696Matchmaking is terrible. There's no escaping that until they change it, or add draft pick.
>>538826878russian drunk doctor who means well but does fucked up medicine because they're russian
>>538861385You don't have to be in every fight.If your team is brooling across the map, you're not going to get there in time to help, just push.
>>538822183Because its fucking stupid that 250 pounds of pure testosterone slamming into the ground at 300 mph is countered by being in the air. But their should definitely de-jank it, right now they're basically rubberbanded behind lash, it should lock the model to lashs knee. Also, ground slam should get a UI distance meter when you cast it, something flashy that starts shining and calling you S-tier whenever you get a 100 meter slam
Your teammates for the match, sir
>victor's ult is silence immunehmmmm
>>538863565>sinclair steals victor ult>doesn't work
>>538863565How you gonna silence someone when they're dead
>>538860525he asked to post numbers, previously claiming mina has the lowest dps
>>538863267Every time someone posts about the matchmaking on reddit people gather around to gaslight the OP. Expect nothing to be done about it.
>>538863565It's a passive, not an active. You can't silence other characters passives i.e. infernus burn, shivs bloodletting. This is also why you can't disable his stink aura once it's active because it then becomes a passive until he turns it off
>>538863565it's a passive ability, that's how those work in Dota too. We need a break mechanic
>>538822103you need to crouch off and dash diagonally
>>538842610Abrams isn't melee hero, he has zero melee abilities. Abrams is a tanky close range disabler with an ability that MAYBE gets you a free heavy melee. I used to play spirit abrams and t3 lifedrain with torment pulse and surge of power just melts people when it comes online (i stopped playing him because abrams is too slow and boring and cooldown dependent)
>>538864410>>538864437>Passive ultHow we need an ult with charges.
It's not original but it's true. I love playing Seven and pressing 4. Flying up into the air and forcing everyone to run and hide while you spazz out and thunder rolls is just awesome.
>>538824546her objective damage will get nerfed into the ground, it's ridiculous
>>538862017Awoo?
>>538820120
>>538862405>add draft pick.Yeah just add another 10-15m to these completely one sided matches, that'll save the game! Compfags deserve to hang.
>>538865035Vindicta
>match starts>pause>pause again>everyone gets to their lane>pause because some nigger is afkwhy do these """people""" queue up if they're not going to be at their PCs when a match is found?
>>538865395Oh, I forgot, lmao.
>>538864143She does has the lowest DPS. Another anon claimed it doesn't count without love bites and it would the highest. That anon was a retard anyway because lv1 Rake is also possible.Since the argument was about reload time. They should be considering sustained dps. Mina has absolutely the worst gun.
>>538842289he is the goat
Sinclair does not sound like he looks he would sound
>>538820120>>538865327
>>538865564how do you expect a placeholder mannequin to sound?
>>538865564Hes a mannequin wearing a textureless runescape necklace. Pretty sure its just a placeholder
>>538865657More grandiose and theatric, like a magician
>>538865657storm spirit
>>538865346Okay well it's getting added. Good luck coping.>compfagLel. Lmao even.
>>538865993Your skin is brown.
banning haze, infernus, seven every game no matter how people weep in chat
>>538866139If you niggers actually pushed for balance instead of unnecessary additions to the game you wouldn't need to do this.
>>538866273I have left terabytes of ivy porn to yoshi on the forums begging for seven/infernus nerfs and have only gotten a couple dozen likes and one mad emoji
>>538866139Seven is fine.
>>538866604fine for me to poop on!
How do you play support bros?>do you farm as much as possible>are they just better on lower econ and fall off later?I play viscous and doorman but idk how to play them as far as when to fight, build healing?, etc
Is Holly's jump pad considered as a movement ability by Slowing Hex?
I CANNOT hit these fucking Holliday barrels man
>>538866903punch them instead.
>>538867265Should I unironically be building melee items? I feel I punch as her a lot
>>538862375Chromatic recolors of humans aren't monsters, there.
>lose lane>lose gameepic game deadtards
>>538865327cute paige but that ivy is way too off model
>>538866718sonics where girls roller skate still exist? all the ones local to me are just late night drug drops and drive thrus ran by ethnics
>>538868256towns/city's with majority white population.
>>538867357Punch the barrels
>>538868389
>>538867357Jump, press 1 and then Q in quick sucession. You will launch the barrel where you're aiming. This is honestly so necessary for playing her that it should be the default way the barrels work to begin with
>>538866701>How do you play support bros?You don't. If you want to purely be a supportive cuck try Viscous with echo shard cube. Most annoying support there is. Everything else you should focus on contributing to team fights with damage. The healing in this game has been cucked over and over again to the point it's not worth it in a team fight. Only lifesteal can outheal damage and it has to be AoE and with Infuser. Don't be a useless Paige player who throws a shield WAY BEFORE THE FIGHT EVEN BEGINS only for it to run out as soon as people start firing and then you miss all your other abilities and sit back doing nothing and dying to a Haze over and over again. USELESS.
>>538865480>DPS with reloads includedlol lmao even. Pretty much irrelevant since anything like that can be covered up with ammo, quick reload, qsr, etc
>>538868714nta but this is exactly the type of shit I was asking for when I asked if there were any tips for her and no one in the thread answered. I asked because when i've fought against good holidays they launch barrels at me with insane precision when they jump pad into the air and I had no clue how they were capable of that and it is EXTREMELY frustrating to deal with in lane
>>538867405Abrams has horns, red eyes and is a giant. None of those are humanoid features.
>>538866701You should be shoving the wave and immediately stealing the enemies machines at 8 mins. Viscous and doorman have free escapes, so take advantage of that and steal enemy resources. Gank with doorman based off your ult cd and viscous whenever it seems favorable. Do not build healing on these heroes outside of rescue beam on viscous into holliday/bebop
>>538869192Do you actually play this game? Items can be bought by every hero. But items will be LESS effective on heroes with weaker base stats. That's why we have all this discussion about stats.I cant fucking take this general seriously anymore.
>>538869443NTA, by "humanoids" we're typically referring to the "two legs, two arms, human torso and head" body type.
https://youtu.be/3LNpHy0zTaQ
>>538868256The one near me has cute latinas on staff. I don't like it when a dude comes out there should be an option to specifically request a woman
>>538869192don't talk to mina players, they are always the victim.
>>538870172Don't think I made any mention of his hands or legs, did I?
>>538869192it's a discussion about the reload speed and DPS, what did you fucking expect?
>>538870230sometimes you get the cute latina teens, other times you get the 40 year old latina single mothers
>>538870365demonic features don't factor much into the discussion to begin with, is what I'm trying to say. humanoid refers specifically to human body types, which abrams has. so far all the heroes we have humanoid. I'm agnostic on the issue, I don't really care.
>>538868714Goddamn, I just thought it'd make it explode in my face
I would like an actual (bestial/barely sentient monster) in Deadlock, Wrecker would fit the bill but he's been scrapped until they can figure out how to make his kit not suck asshole.
Can someone explain why they gave Haze grandpa ass crack?
>>538865480this isn't taking into account the lpve bites spirit dmg is it?
>>538869784You're a retard. just because every character can buy every item does not mean the best DPS on every character involves using the same items. Especially on a character like mina who deals spirit damage with her bullets which scales directly with spirit which is completely unique to her. Not to mention the big burst of damage she gets for free by just shooting enough times and the damage of that can vary a lot depending on what items you use. fucking midwit
>looking for a new team>ask the players if their team is macro or micro>they don't understand>pull out illustrated diagram explaining what is macro and what is micro>they laugh and say "it's a good team sir">start match>they're micro
>>538870782Doesn't the premise being knowingly fighting on a patron's behalf for a wish kind of excluded retarded beasts from participating
>>538869186>The healing in this game has been cucked over and over again to the point it's not worth it in a team fight.clearly you have not been subjected to Kelvin's bullshit antics
>>538871045Now you fucking know she doesn't build gun items and gun items give her 0 boost. And reload time means nothing because it doesn't refresh Love Bites cooldown, you fucking dishonest bad faith arguing shit.
>>538871431His ultimate has a long cooldown. His health grenades used to be crazy, yes, but Valve cucked ALL healing on ALL characters instead of just toning down heroes like Kelvin.
>>538871045Yes, so buying gun items is pointless on Mina because her base gun sucks dick. That was the entire point.
>>538865480Mina is a spirit nuker that starts with middling dps and scales bullet damage with spirit.
>>538864212it's just representative of how our society has been degeneratingFalse consciousness where these niggas will attribute it to 'skill issue' than even admit maybe the matchmaking is horrid. These are the same niggas who buy Funko pops and pay for a gorillion marvel rivals skins, but they will seethe at you even hinting that these companies don't give a fuck about player satisfaction, just retention
>deadlock player counts didn't really drop much with silksong and bordermemes releasesbros, are we all poors???
>>538865657THE MAGNIFICENT SINCLAIR should sound like a theatrical bombastic stage magician, not a smooth talking 25 year old basketball american.
>>538871745>Not being a DL/SS idortPs: we need a pogo hero
>>538871745Silksong is 20 dollars. People here just don't want to play the reddit game of the month
>>538871745deadlock is the only thing worth playing desu famalam
>>538871695Everybody knows this expect the guy randomly complains about Mina having fast reload time which isn't actually fast in the first place because she has additional 0.4s reload delay.
>>538871612NTA but some gun items ARE worth it on her, namely Cultist Dagger, Burst Fire, Spirit Rend, hell even that one item with the chalice icon that boosts your fire rate AND spirit power as you fire. You know, something that helps build up Love Bites AND increase its damage! Just because they're fucking orange and her gun's base damage sucks does not mean purchasing an orange item is a waste of souls on her. You just don't buy a MAJORITY orange items.
>>538871745i do buy games but very infrequently, because i don't actually play that much since i am content with the games i have alreadydeadlock is very fun so it's been occupying most of the time i play vidya, i have negative interest for both borderlands and hollow knight silksong but i am planning to buy EUV when it comes out and there's other games i've bought and played since deadlock came out
>>538872352Cultist is the only good one, maybe kinetic dash.
>>538870994
only new game I'm looking to buy is SWERY's hotel barcelona, kek
>>538871745Yes. But I wouldn't have bought it anyway because I'm yet to finish Hollow Knight.
>>538871745>silksongnot worth buying if you didn't beat hollow knight>borderlandsruns like shit and costs 70 bucks>deadlockworth CONJURING SCARABSruns like TORNADO and costs BEETLESmakes you feel THE FURY OF THE DJINNi'm sticking with deadlock
seven's flips, slide and his little kick are kinda fruityyou don't think while he was in prison he had to ...
>>538872830nice mod
>>538873325Shame scarabs SUCK
>>538874009What mod? That used to be vanilla.
>>538874103So can you tell me why Haze has grandpa ass now and an asscrack that extends to the back of her neck?
>>538873325mirageposting is the funniest shit ever>>538874084true, they really have to fully re-do that ability
>bodyguard for important ambassador>brings ambassador into deadly combat with him >gets her killed alongside him majority of the timeshitty bodyguard
>>538874419I'll kill you - Mirage
>>538874419Why is Mirage in the fight again? Just to wish for Wyoming?
>>538871745>boyfriend gifted me Borderlands 4>haven't even accepted it yetI'll play it if we coop it but if not I'll just refund it.
>>538874419what's he supposed to do, stick her in a dresser at her hotel? no, she's safer with him
>>538874419This is mentioned in one of his lines.
>>538874601>Gifted BorderlandsYou need to dump him bro. He is not fixable
>>538874745>no she's safer with me>goes 2/8
>>538874853I had a bebop on my team that went 0/15 and we won
>>538874528I think he's gonna get a shit load of money that the Djinn can use to buy Wyoming (or part of it) from the US government
>>538869784Why does doorman's bell do no fucking damage compared to a single dynamo kickup, goo attack or infetnus's passive? Even with double the spirit investment he just does no damage compared to them. Shouldn't he be rewarded in some way for the effort in which he has to actually deal damage to his targets? If you just walk away from him or walk into his bell he can't hurt you.
>>538874202its the same as always they just removed the bag
>>538819078Odd, when that happened to me I was on the low ground to the side of that high ground where people harass you while you're under guardian. I don't even know how that could happen there.
>>538875227Because they overcompensated for his ult and thought his doors would be better than they actually are.
>>538875227>Why does doorman's bell do no fucking damagespotted the doorman
Samoa Joe voices fucking Abrams?
>>538821393I say it's only (barely) good on Ivy when Thwompwebbing since she can be at every fight off ult CD and will farm assists.if you build it on anyone else, you're trolling and i'm calling you a retard in VC.
>>538875227Hes rewarded with his ult cd being so low and it ignores unstoppable.Though ulting someone with an iframe is pointless. A pocket, haze (with maxed 2), and Mina can just ignore the damage all together even if they failed the jump.
>>538875227His bells do more than enough damage dude. Just rush the tier 2 upgrade for them and buy extra charge and mystic burst first. You'll be doing 300 damage per bell if you hit them with the impact and the explosion.
>>538823339what a fantastic rebuttal, you are not retarded.
FOR NASHALAAAAAA!!!!!!
>>538875775>Hes rewarded with his ult cd being so low and it ignores unstoppable.You can't ult someone who has unstoppable up.
>>538867453>shitter teammate loses lane>he concludes the game is lost and proceeds to do nothing but burger box for 20 minutes>lose because my retard shitter teammate gave up after the lane phase and never utilized any comeback mechanicsenjoy sub archon faggot
Need help on yella
>>538875646It's only trolling worth calling out if it's grabbed while you're losing. If anyone is farming kills it's hardly the worst item you can grab, especially after the buff
headed to broadway
>>538876138>Win Lane>Lose gameTrust me. I believe in comebacks.
>>538821393it's good on heroes with long-distance mobility options that can constantly be helping on fights with supports and such, and who are actually helped by the buffsso what i'm saying is that if you buy it in anyone besides dynamo, mokrill, ivy and kelvin you are literally trolling
>you hear drunk rusniggers>lane phase wasn't too bad but you just know you're gonna lose For some reason after 15 years of playing Dota russnigers still have no idea how to play MOBA, they just can't stop feedingThey'll push one tower with the whole squad balls deep while their other two towers are falling because of the troopers alone. They'll die sooner than you'll be able to push an empty lane. They just don't understand when it's time to get the fuck back, they'll chase a fucking Infernus back to his base only to get ganbganged by his whole team. They'll have zero items for protections, no counterspell against Lash or Talon, no armor against Drifter or Haze. Risnigger Doorman will save enemy Victor with his ult, not just once - always. They're braindead.
>>538875856*heals from you*
>>538876962blaming russians categorically is the classic midwit soloqueuer take
I may not be able to spell pentrification, but that ain't gonna matter after I turn 'em into a rock.
>watch deadlock tournament>game ends at the 25 minute mark>winning team doesn't even have tier 4 itemsholy fuck how boring
>>538876962Russian conscript Urra charge never fails comrade
What cheat is this that shows enemies at the edges of the screen like this?Also is this FOV the known "CS pro" type of low resolution trick or something to aim better? https://youtu.be/15leWYOxfvA?t=595
>>538877160which tournament?
God, this game had some really dogshit early metasGuardian ward, rescue beam, healing nova rush.what an awful fucking time to play the game.I can't even remember if I hated Rescue beam or Guardian ward more.
>>538876962ukraine lostnafo lostyou will never be a woman
>>538877053for 800, this perk is too insane>faster parry>heals you for their melee damage>and then RETURNS their melee damage>and then gives you flat THIRTY percent dmg ampif only my pisslow teammates could read when they face billy/abrams
>>538876962Russians aren't typically any worse than American players, but they are waaaay more aggressive. Sometimes that works out and snowballs into a stomp, but when defensive play is needed it is just so sad to see them get picked in the most obvious situations.I will say this behavior extends to a lot of European players in general
>>538877160This is just Yoshi's game design flawHe made snowballing from laning with midgame carries just so overtuned
>>538877148Doesn't make it wrong thoughbeit
>Low prio queue>white queue all for fast queue times>get a Mina who gets hit by every ability and then afks behind guardian going "wtf are u doing" after I deal literally every single point of damage in the lane>call her a braindead pedophile gooner and ask her what her outgoing damage is>she runs into the bebop hook on purpose, goes afk mid fight and then stands still in spawn shooting soul orbs for literally 15 minutes straightdisgusting europeans rejects are some of the most insufferable faggots i have ever seen in gaming.
>>538877328Death Slam League EU Grand Finals>>538877594The urn is decent for comebacks and I regularly see the losing team secure it when it's smart to run it but the winning team can steal the losing team's entire jungle and choke out the losing team to the point where urn doesn't even matter.
>>538877148Trve.
>>538877160I've seen plenty comebacks in Night Shift lately, it's just a skill disparity in Death Slam
>>538877812the jungle stealing is just so badThey need to make the creeps in the enemy's jungle do a lot more damage to opponentsEven in my games, it's annoying not even being able to exist in your own jungle because some nigger got fed in lane and now just rapes anyone who isn't by a walker
>>538877812>Death Slamd*athy's can barely be considered a tournament to be fair, deadlock night shift/ fight night is where it's at
>>538877160People saying defense is too strong have no clue what they're doing.
>>538877305That's not a cheat that's just a UI mod
>>538875440The doors are jank as fuck and refuse to be placed like 90% of the time. When doors have a 100% placement success rate we can talk about the hero.
>>538875775>and it ignores unstoppable.do these niggas even play the game
>>538878146>>538878074Thanks for the deets, I'll check it out.
>>538876193KILL YOURSELF
>>538878224mods are cheats
>>538878224It's a cheat then.
>>538876138NTA but playing victor kicked me all the way back to emissary. IM IN HELL HELP ME
>>538877709NA players are ten times worse than yuropeans. They all suck, blabber way too much and there's a 50% chance they're going to start talking about traps and gay sex.
>>538875787Still does a quarter of afterburns damage and thats not even counting the bullet damage he does to apply it to you. Nope, doesn't add up.
>>538878697>>538878629It's just adding a square box to what is usually a circle you retards
>finally check this game out>Lash sounds exactly like Johnny CageI was not prepared. In my head he was some PIP PIP CHEERIO GOD SAVE THE QUEEN GUV'NOR bongoloid.
>End up feeding in lane along with Pocket>Match going south strategically>Thinking that it's over>One lucky teamfight later, only McGinnis is left alive>We take the rejuv>In 2 attacks, we winIt is shameful to be carried, but at least I had fun in the end, even scoring some kills by myself for once.
>>538878224>>538878697Where can I get this totally not a cheat mod from gamebanana? What is it called?
Splitpusher Mina maxing ult is actually so stupid, they can't let you get close to the walker ever or you literally just instakill it from full HP
>>538878752>NA players are ten times worse than yuropeanswrong, I have over 600 hours in deadlock and the THREE EU lobbies I have been in have been filled with subhumans.I would NEVER have a Mina player do something that pathetic on NA. only a disgusting eurodog would waste 15+ minutes of their life shooting a single spawning orb just to spite another player when called out for playing like shit.the only reason we won that game was because the enemy Infernus rage quit and then 2 more followed him (Eurocucks are LITERALLY allergic to playing the game)
>>538878909it's the same VAdespite playing and knowing MK for longer than i've played Deadlock I can only hear lash now when I play MK, it's over...Bebop is Vander from Arcane and Viscous is fucking YURI LOWENTHAL
>>538820120Finally had a decent match and we could have won but the other team's Infernus was really good and our retard Lash pulled victor and threw him on top of paige during the last team fight.
>>538878778Infernus afterburn damage at 50 spirit with duration extender and maxed ability deals 375 damage over 5 seconds, maxed bell at 50 spirit with three charges deals 370 AoE damage and you can apply 3 hits in 4 seconds.
>>538842235hmm...it's up there, but I think I prefer Plus R over it. If JoJo HFTF had slightly better balancing I would consider that the greatest fighting game ever made
>>538879390I look forward to future shitposts making use of voice clips from both characters
>>538879493Absolutely nuts that Mina didn't parry you there. The ONLY thing you could have done to stop that teleport in time was to melee her, and she still didn't, lol.
>>538878909we still need a proper British herothey should make a queens guard with the rocket launcher ability Rutger had
>>538879205Don't get your trans flag knickers in a twist guvna
>Me Dynamo with a Pocket against Vindicta and Calico>Get bullied nonstop>Pocket dies thrice despite my best efforts to save him>Even rushed knockdown to deal with the stupid ghost>Pocket proceeds to turn the game around by spamming the fuck out of urns until we get a lead>Curbstomp from then onHuh. Funny how that worked out.
>>538879941>we still need a proper British heroliterally B*bop
>>538879941You'd think warden would be a i'ish bloke but he's all ALCHEMICAL FLASK instead
Just found out Ivy stone form and Abrams ult can stun walkers (I already knew dynamo and kelvin did but it made sense to me that they were special)
>>538879897idk, it is probably because her and victor tried parrying me a ton during the lane phase and they missed plenty.btw how do i deal with infernus' ult? do i just buy that item so I can parry his ult maybe?
kelvin needs loveBring back gun kelvin
>>538880228Echo shard can let you teleport out of the area of effect right before it explodes, and is also just a nice item to have on a lot of characters. I don't play that much Abrams but I imagine you can pull off some nasty charges if you first teleport into a position they don't expect.
is calico's camera lower than normal?
>enemy team has no innate hard cc>can just bullet dance whenever I want without worrying about it being cancelled>get an early phantom strike over unstoppable>steamroll them hardthanks draftgods.
>>538880000australian
>>538880305Hi, deadlock dev here.We heard you. Tomorrow we shall release a new update nerffing Shiv
guess the hero!
>streamers blatantly edit cfg to have incrased FOV>never banned>their audience oblivious to it or don't care / cheat too
>>538878909I can see why, he looks like white Dudley
>>538880991pic related!
Any tips for a Lady Geist build? Pic related has been working alright for me, but I feel like there is room for improvement.
>>538880991Scholeck. Part man part scorpion hybrid who dual wields ancient egyptian handguns from the pyramids. He can cast mummy dust to tempoarily blind enemies, poison sting to deal damage over time and his ultimate attack summons a giant limestone obelisk that drops down and deals massive damage to anything directly underneath and stuns everything around.
>>538881193Warden
>>538881193warden? but the heal nova is throwing me offuhh maybe dynamo?
>>538881193Infernus
>/dlg/ pushes gun vic>literally all Eternus players run tank/spirit vicHuh...
>>538820120If any artist is here and happens to take requests: https://litter.catbox.moe/5hl67d.png
>>538881553gun vic is for statchecking and ratting, both of which are way less effective at high ranks
>>538881317>>538881419nope!>>538881490close!
>>538881694>the walking talking creep that drops 1k souls combo
>>538881694
>>538881039>trackballhuhare these things actually good
>Phantom strike>Majestic leap>Warp stone>Maxed out Mystic expansionIt's overkill but there is no escaping the blackhole.
>>538881694I am so glad I don't get shitters like this in my game anymore.what a god awful useless build.
>>538881694thought of bepop but then i wondered why would he ever buy range and heal nova? trance is ass on him too because his cooldowns are so short
>>538881694What is this build even trying to accomplish I don't get it. Is it supposed to be a tank or what?
Redpill me on Enchanter's Emblem. How good of a temporary item is it? Is losing 800 souls worth it?
>>538882734shaving a few seconds off every cooldown in the lane phase can be monumental depending on which hero kit
>>538881694jesus fuck man he's just clicking random items
>>538882734>decent resist>improved spirit worth of spirit>some cooldownHow is it not good
>>538882734grossly overpowered item
>>538882734Why would you even sell this 99% of the game? It's got ridiculous stats for the price.
>>538882734No reason not to get it if you use spirit unless you're against double gun
>>538882734Rush this early especially if the enemy laner is buying early spirit items and you're going to be eating good. Great on spammy backline characters obviously
>losing every game because people refuse to clear waves and instead jungleWelcome back, 2024 Deadlock. They should just remove jungle, it confuses new players.
>Russians play lash>Twink faggots play doorman>Trannies play victor or paigeAny other examples like these
>>538883319The main reason I tend to lose games nowadays is because a Mina or Billy player decides at the 30 minute mark that it's a good time to just walk into the enemy team over and over again like a zombie without saying anything and dying on repeat.
>>538883570Wrong.I'm a furfag and I play Victor and Paige.I hate troons.
>>538883570none of these are particularly true besides maybe trannies playing paige
>>538881236>ObeliskA dirge tombstone type skill would be really cool actually
>>538883570Russians play Drifter or Warden.
>Doorman manifests a door to parry
>>538882221there's no benefit to trackballs, zerggy is just a sperg who grew up using them so he's used to them
Guys I have a confession to make. I didn't know you could recast Majestic leap and dive to the ground.
>>538883696same but I one trick Doorman.I teabag every single Paige player after killing them and if they say one singular thing in chat I make sure to pause and "?" in all chat after killing them.
>>538883957do you not read the words that pop up on your screen?
>>538883696>>538884017>self-hating dogfuckermany such cases.
>>538884145uh oh, troon melty!!!
post essential mods
>>538884145>self hatingI'm not a troon, troon.I'm very happy that I'm a man.
>>538883957>uminegro fan>doesn't read
>>538884336my beautiful criminal princess
>>538883957You can also double jump right after the re-cast to go insanely fast horizontally
>>538884336I refuse to play Drifter without this mod
>>538884767I won't deny, the idea does sort of fit, and I knew someone would make this mod, but god that model is fucking ugly as shit.
>>538884939Yeah, it's a little rough but it looks better in motion and the Death Whistle sound effect on his ult makes it worth perma running.
>>538884212>>538884346Sorry, dogfucker, all dogfuckers are troons, wishing for a fantasy land where you can be a heckin wholesome dogboi and the family pet can consent. And, of course, you have to go back, because you will never belong on this website no matter how many of you apply for janny positions.
>>538885314uh oh, even bigger tranny melty!someone didn't get their HRT this month
furfags were literally trannies before trannies were trannies. taking over fourms (ancient discord for you babbies out there) mafia style, constantly sneaking their fetish into things aimed at kids, acting like mean internet comments is the same thing as being lynched
>>538884526this looks so disgustingly bad, I have no idea how people can play with this skin on, the tattoos are already enshittifying enough but that face and glassess...
you do know how to mantle glide right anon?
>>538884336>>538884526This and Sinclair redesign are pretty essential. Not that I play either of them.>Note: I haven't actually added them back in since the update because I'm lazy.
>get ganked by Drifter>punches you for 1200>die>... later in the game find him and we're equal farmwebm tells the rest>that damn bag>that panic
>>538885764Of all the things posted this is what you get pissy about?
>>538885881idgi, if you can't get away why don't you just fight back?if you're gonna die at least try and kill them.
>>538885314I prefer anthropomorphic cats, thanks.Also: I've been here since 2005, newfag.
>>538885921I wanted to make a post about that skin a while ago but forgot
>>538885881that's a very big ball
>>538885970I know but when you got 2k unsecured souls you might panicI think he could've easily killed me and then ran as I respawn
>>538885764NTA but who cares how ugly it may or may not be, it's better than what we have
>>538886067the craziest thing is that your 3 ramped up and literally half healthed yourself in a 1v1 against Drifter.i'm amazed he didn't just insta gib you. people really are scared shitless of Victor for some reason.
>>538885881Also I've started using quicksilver reload on Victor's aura. It activates when you activate it and when you deactivate it. I still think it's the better option to imbue due to 1 needing damage to trigger and 2 not getting any spirit damage from the quicksilver or the mercury update.
On one hand, I like Kinetic Dash, but on the other, should I just cut it for like, swift strike?
is gun yamato still a thing?
>lash about to kill our bebop>pauses the game
>>538886274Yeah even with spirit shielding it takes too much health and if they move around or just jump you're the only one taking damage from it. I usually build Frenzy but you can see I got no slots and carrying 7k, hoping for the slot soon. Aura is just a farming tool for this gun build that I'm using and to slow enemies down. Still think there's much better gun heroes that do far better in the game but I kind of like Victor's kit due to the healing and flash farming / lane pushing and crushing objectives. His major weakness compared to other gun heroes is that he has no disables. Haze has dagger which lets you unload half a clip on an enemy. Warden has root and stamina thief. Seven can stun and trigger spirit debuffs with just firing the enemy (without tesla) and so on.
>>538884336
>>538885764hmmm why would a yakuza have tattoos
>>538887160the varsity jacket would have unironically fit the time period more since that suits the 1940ish 1950ish period
>>538886274>>538887057>Victor players when they check the damage recapI think the nerf from dealing 80% damage to 100% damage to self was unjustified.
>>538885843this looks like shit and you should feel bad for liking it
Victor is literally just a walking stat check.If he has more self healing, spirit res, or health than you he wins, otherwise you win.
>>538887731It makes sense because you have to be a faggot to play Sinclair in the first place
>>538887875he's weak to gun heroes that can aimtoo bad nobody in pisslow can aim
>>538887950Don't tell them that. I have no slots for bullet armor because I have to stack so much spirit resist just to avoid 42%ing myself.
>>538887950I can but I'm only in pisslow because of rank decay. When I play McGinnis or Mirage I basically instakill Victors.
>Victor's gun is ass>people still build gun vic to this dayHuh...
what if seven had different powers depending on how he was executed>water seven who was drowned>mutant seven who had lethal injection>fire seven who was burned on pyre>walking gun seven that was executed by firing squad. his primary fire is ejecting bullets from his body.
>stretchruns like ass even at 50% scaling>fsrruns like ass>fsr 3.0 runs like ass + blurry as fuck>DLSS input lag like a motherfuckerWhat gives? I have a 3060
Mina is so fun, holy moly. I get why I see her every game.
>>538888254laptop 3060?
>>538887560It gets a little better if you buy spirit lifesteal but yeah. I probably could buy it earlier in this build but you need so many slots just to counter your self damage. I think as long as you draw all attention, can be front liner and kill objectives, that's the main goal. In this clip I have no lifesteal at all but my team is keeping me alive (Paige and Dynamo). I barely manage to kill anyone though but I keep 'em busy for team to kill the shrine. His 1 misses too easily too. I've had Haze just dash and her hitbox dodges it (goes prone). Wish it was a cone like Lash's Flog.
>>538888375desktop, the 12gb one
do dynamo players really?
>>538886274>people really are scared shitless of Victor for some reason.Mostly because his health bar is really deceptive. The lower health he is the more his 2 is going to heal, all of the damage he takes from 2 and 3 would create crazy health regen if he had Radiant Regeneration. This kind of stuff trips enemies up. The other side of that coin is Victors that don't know how much punishment they can take so they just keep getting ganked to death
>>538888546He's no Vyper, Ivy, Wraith or Haze when it comes to downing people (mainly due to gun spread over long distance) but the Patron is big enough to hit close range so who cares.
>20k soul diff after 15mins>lanepartner goes 0/5 for no reasonmatchmaking is especially shit today, holy fuck
>>538888723dynamo would not say that
>>538888824All the weekend warriors are out.
>get teammate who never fought over objectives, didn't join teamfights, didn't even splitpush>check stats at end of fight>has 44% neutral enemy damage>have to figure out what's up with this dude>look him up on statlocker>he just farms, in every game>most common rank: 12th>maybe he's smurfing>check his best game>still just farms constantly>never pushes objective>he just got lucky during the handful of teamfights he joinedI'm honestly amazed, I finally found an initiate in the wild
>>538886102I hope yamato, vyper and grey talon reworks are good.
>>538888261There was also this fun encounter with the Doorman.
>>538888723>when you say something negative about marla
>>538888906Oh also>700+ games on one character>next 2 most common are ~30 games eachGuess the heroesBonus points if you guess which one's the 700 game character
>>538888993>motion blur
Some decent spirit and charge items and Dynamo’s 1 becomes one of the most retarded things in the game
>>538888993your movement looks like an npc's nigga, check yo shit
>>538885843looks dogshit
>>538889258Where is the motion blur setting in here?>>538889278How do I move better?
>>538889274Stomp dynamo is ridiculously weak, it's the aimlet version of grey talon
>>538889421Are you blind?
>>538889421You're supposed to be a spazzy tweaker like zerggy, duh.
>>538889660He cheats with FOV mods and it's obnoxious trying to follow his adderal powered movement.
how do i actually play well as sinclair, its too hard to hit these fucking boltswhat i end up doing is just pushing like an idiot and then stealing a good ult late
>>538889591Based on his webm, yes.
>>538889917You don't. They've been avoiding generic grenade-type nukes on recent heroes, but ending up making weird hard to use shit
>>538889917I'd say don't bother, kit is wonky and clearly going to get reworked
>silence wave->leap->arctic blast->hit all 7 bombs->ult->leap->hit bombs againcalico is so fucking fun
>>538887731>>538889380>Magician with two personalities inside their body wearing a two faced mask is worse than generic mannequin with a top hot.
wtf is this thigh
>>538890719Calico is just negro Yamato
>>538890925Yamato is too janky for my liking
>>538885843This is really ugly, id uninstall if it were ever actually officialized.
>>538890782better implementation would just be the mannequin wholly taking on masculine or feminine looks based on whomever is possessing it at the time. this half and half look is honestly a bit hideous
>>538890782sinclair's current model is dogshit because it's evidently unfinished, this one is dogshit because the concept and execution is gay and trash from the outset
>>538890916Baggy pants.
I…kinda like the vibe of Sinclair how he is now design wise
everyone likes sinclair but nobody plays sinclair
I think parry should be a character specific mechanic or should be an item you can buy. There's no fucking way fucking Paige could or should be able to parry Abrams or Bebop or Billy or some other tough guy.
You should be able to pick between Henry and Savannah before queueing, and Savannah should get her own model.
I think surviving assassinate should be a character specific quality. No fucking way Paige or Grey Talon can survive a sniper rifle round to the forehead under any conditions.
>>538892308sorry sir this is a moba you need to respect whatever zany items and bullet resist i have built rather than having hard limits on anything.
Does reporting actually do anything?
>>538892308so the opposite of a charlie kirk?
>>538892706you should be more respectful to mossad victims
>>538892308Vindicta should take extra damage from fire
>>538892859no
>>538892706Thats NOT funny
>>538892859I'm not a Palestinean child, they won't shoot me
>>538892072>muh realismthere's no way any character should be able to survive getting shot in the head. sounds like you should be playing Arma instead
>>538889421>FsrOh no no no no
Victor and seven should instantly kill bebop with their spells
>>538893041Agreed
>>538893137>another Bebop nerfNo... please...
>>538893041It's quite funny.
>>538888993Literally me trying to secure a kill
I’m going to have a fucking meltdown if that vampire cunt dashes away with 1 health one more time
>>538891945On the rare occasions I might decide to play Sinclair, I like being the most annoying bastard ever, with Echo Rabbits, Silence Wave, Disarm Hex, and Curse.
>>538893487Just get the tier 3 silencing active item and fuck her
>sorry anon, you lost 10 times as X hero which means your skill rating on every other hero in the game is going to also subtly go down too for some reasongenuinely retarded
>>538893487whoever thought up different voicelines for using abilities at low HP is a genius, getting away from a lash/krill chasing me with a combo of 2 and superior stamina is that extra bit more satisfying when my character is as urgent to GTFO as I am
>>538893115What? I set this shortly after I started playing last September.
>>538893930cant you debuff remover it?
what are most optimal gun build heroes?
>>538885843ridiculously busy design, not even a hint of subtlty at the duality of them sharing a body. You also need to diagetically consider: how would savannah and henry actually dress in this body? They wouldn't draw a line down the middle and then evenly distribute accessories. They would fight over who gets what arm, how much one can express themselves over the other. They might more realistically only ever have one side of control at a time, and then the model would swap each life. This half and half shit is overdetailed and devoid of personality. I genuinely hate it
Does reporting actualyl do anything?
>>538894328Haze.
>like Victor>like Seven>both lightning based>both undead>both don't actually work until 30k soulsHuh...
>>538885843That looks gay as shit.
>>538894689>Seven doesn't work until 30k soulsAre we playing the same game?
>>538884526This one is insanely overrated, her outfit makes her look Chinese and not Japanese, and not at all like a Yakuza, barring the sleeve tattoos and sunglasses. Obviously right now just about anything is an improvement over ayylmao but this is still just bad.Bitch should be in a happi coat and sarashi wrap, straight black hair tied up and with a headband, with some western conceits like flashy sunglasses (I personally would prefer round ones but god we have so many round glasses in this game already), probably more western looking women's trousers with visible ankles but bulky enough to give the impression of a hakama.
>victor literally has to build spirit resist just to have a 3 that doesn't kill himthis is so badno other character needs to build to NOT KILL THEMSELVES
>>538890916zoot suit man
>>538895479Pocket does
>>538895479No shit that's how he's balanced, also Geist exists
why does valve keep pumping out trans coded suicidal heroes
Vindicta’s crows should have charges
>>538895479Trans representation matters chud
How the hell do you build Doorman? I like his gun, but his spirit is also good.
>>538895657>that's how it's balanced anon! You're forced to spend 6400+++ souls to use your 1 ability! THAT'S BALANCE!!! EAT SHIT VICTOR!!!!!
>>538895657Its not really comparable. Geist doesn't kill her self nearly as much and she benefits from being low hp because of her ult.
>>538896080in pisslow go gunoutside of pisslow focus more on his CC/utility with spirit
>>538896509What's CC?
>>538896551Charlie Cirk, the guy that was shot in the news
>>538896551Never mind, I finally realized that it means Crowd Control.
>>538896551crowd controlit pretty much devolved into meaning any effect that makes your opponent want to kill themselves (slows, stuns, silences, disarms, fire rate slows, etc.)
>>538894689You can't aim.
>>538896759>any effect that makes your opponent want to kill themselvesdamn doorman really has a lot of that huh
DING DING I CAN'T FUCKING HIT ANYTHING DING DING
>>538897125Doorman put me in the hotel again
>>538878146I did like the matches more but all I'm saying is>watch deadlock tournament>game ends at the 22 minute markthe game's current state is a little slow in some low ranks but waaay too fast for comp.
>>538897325and what I'm saying is that D*athy's shit excuse for a tournament is not really a tournament at all. He invited some random niggers who are probably archon and called it a pro tournament, that's not how it works. Deadlock Fight Night / Night Shift have more seriousness about them and the matches do show higher quality every time
Until valve organizes an official tournament, I will not recognize a single player as professional except myself
>>538897490Naw you're right about that. The matches were a lot nicer so I'm still glad an anon recommended them. As for Deathy, I don't think he should be charging for coaching and I'm sure you would agree if you've watched him live. He makes mistakes he doesn't identify, gets salty quicker than you'd think and he soft ints games. None of those traits are good for a pro player.
>>538897325uhm you can't critique how slow the game is git gud git gud git gud
>>538898054Coaches don't have to be the best players in the world.
>>538871745>borderlandsWho?>silksongPlayed Hollow Knight, didn't like it, kinda don't care>>538896816>>538897238Refresher Doorman might not be optimal, but it is unmatched in the psychological warfare department
where or how do i find friends to play with
>>538898552Just ask your irl friends to play with you, tell them it's like overwatch
>>538898552You don't, even my dota autist friends didn't want to play ''this weird unfinished game''.
>>538898552Poke around websites and chatrooms where Deadlock players congregate.
>>538896337and victor is rewarded with a spirit nuke that heals him 20% for self damaging himself, what's your point?
>>538898552Try adding any lane partner you mesh with
>silence wave doesn't stop channeling abilitieswhat's the fucking point of it then
>>538899091>what's the point of an aoe item that disables abilities and reduces resistance
>win a 2v1 simply because I parriedit's just that easy
>>538899091Ambush
>>538899091you're supposed to use it to prevent them from starting the channel in the first place
>>538899091Yoshi here. Buy Cold Front instead.
>>538870414those were the same ones time traveling
>want to call someone a nigger for playing like an absolute retard>have to restrain myself so I don't get bannedman.
>>538899452At worst you get comms banned, this isn't blizzard
>>538899091nigga buy knockdown or curse dumbass nigga
>>538899256is it actually aoe though, it's still targeted
I don’t wanna buy Cold Front anymore
>>538899839yes retard go into sandbox and look at how huge the projectile is
Some kind of cheat advertising? I ain't clicking that shit.
>>538899956Thanks for posting it here so we can all go give him views
>>538899452Sperging out doesn't make your team play better, you dumb racist.
>>538899956HOLY SHIT GOING TO THAT LINK GAVE ME ACCESS TO YOSHIS COMPUTER
>>538900297>>538900297>>538900297>>538900297>>538900297>>538900297
>>538899452I've been calling people niggers during the entire year and I only got comms banned last week, go for it
>>538900342cheaters stream too to advertise their cheats
>>538889917I dunno but a buffed hex with echo shard is like 8 seconds of aoe disable
>>538898552Me and my buddy have like 1000 hours in this game combined
