Etrian Odyssey Origins Collection:https://atlus.com/etrianorigins/https://sq-atlus.jp/sq123/>Origins Portrait Rips:https://mega.nz/folder/1tASnSbb#E23CLm1oJ71WrB0_gnt3lA>Origins Font Fixes:https://gamebanana.com/mods/447602 (EO1)https://gamebanana.com/mods/447609 (EO2)https://gamebanana.com/mods/447653 (EO3)>EO3 "Liberating" ModPC:https://files.catbox.moe/jodrax.zipPC hair version:https://files.catbox.moe/szvevp.zipSwitch:https://pixel drain com/u/AwKKreQ8Switch hair version:https://pixel drain com/u/mNu4HEeHEdited portraits:https://files.catbox.moe/gur7dr.zip>Beginner's Guide to the Series:https://imgur.com/a/ggW5g5U>Etrian Odyssey Resources (Mods/Patches, References, Data Dumps, Calculators, QR Codes, Skill Sims, etc.):https://pastebin.com/LBujh3ra>Etrian Odyssey Art Books:https://pastebin.com/Tm1xN2Jy>Etrian Odyssey FLAC Albums:https://pastebin.com/cE8mdiLF >Etrian Odyssey Lossy Albums:https://pastebin.com/crChVqLB>Nexus balance patch mod:https://mega.nz/#F!o1cXTSpB!SW5Ad-o8_pKYOa9LcbyiSg>Document containing some resources and informationhttps://docs.google.com/document/d/1m5G-ZQvXsmM68TCrSv2bWfKz2SfSc7xq-REfMXMhAEc/Previous thread: >>536770217
EO3's artstyle gives me tranny vibes. The characters seem queer coded.
>no next stage>only nigga emblemI want off this ride
>>538865935The ride never ends
the state of us after that direct
Its over....
they just didn't want their big announcement be in the same stream as low quality trash such as a carton box virtual boy, which is understandable. there will be a separate announcement later.
>recently rested up the entire party because I needed to adjust skill points for scylla>they remove bertrand from my party messing up the xp bars that just got fixedhow could they do this to me
>>538874141just do it 4 more times switching out a different member each times
>>538874141>resting on the first stratumwhat
https://youtu.be/HuvLtCmNmVQ?si=-YXaMWVU6CuaRyT6&t=523
>>538875013>>538876646
NEXT STAGE never ever
AAAAH
Guys, I think Next Stage is actually dead and gone
>>538891018silence before you become the guild cumdump
next stage SOONjust keep believing
>>538886190Embrace uneven xp bars!The only reason balance exists is so that it may eventually be tipped!
>>538894562>2 level gapI can accept uneven bars, but this is too far!
Just woke up... bugger, but honestly I didn't expect anything.I'm just glad I still have EO related stuff to look forward to. Something a bit less likely to be vapourware...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=83JoiezO30o
>>538886190>>538894562i am very glad to know i am not the only one who is extremely autistic about this ever since EO2.
>>538898804once you level up more the level gap gets smaller so it's fine.
>ded
It's never been more over.
OHOHOHOHOHOHOHO
Im back from work, how was the Next Stage reveal yesterday?
>>538921139Anon I...
Stay alive
I can't believe you niggas are still alive, I miss my 3dsNo, pc is not the same
>>538936073Just make a new 3ds
>>538936073How about a tablet?And yes, it is really impressive that we still are alive. We're not even ded that often, not after the amount of threads were expanded on vg, god know how many years ago
>>538936073>I can't believe you niggas are still alivei remember when the /nis/ general was still alive...
>>538936073Dungeon RPG is torever.
>>538936073I'm not really sure you can call us alive.
bnuuy sexo is eternal
>>538936073I liked HD on steam, what's the issue. I don't even own a switch so to be honest I don't care that much for what they would or would have not announced at the direct, besides the series not being dead. I'd much rather see more steam releases that I can actually play.
>>538952006>that I can actually playYou could always emulate whatevers not released on steam
Maybe Next Stage is taking so long because of all the H-scenes
>>538954729A worthy cause for delay.
>>538957448sticky ricky scenes...
Etrian Odyssey 3 Untold when?
>>538936073How does the mapping work on pc? my favourite part of the 3ds games was how comfy and natural map making felt. Actually I always sort of lamented us never getting a Wii U Etrian Odyssey, one of the few games that would work amazing with the controller. I feel like the 3d models look better than the sprites I've seen on pc too
>>538960401How can a creature this flat and curveless be a breedable woman!?
>>538954563Maybe, but there is no switch 2 emulator yet.
>>538967493
>>538967493>beautiful
>>538970019Downgraded
In EO3 do buffs stack? For example the sovereign's attack order and the limit skill that raises party attack?
https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/thread/534228514This word cloud is for the thread before last; I will do the actual previous thread at a later date.
>>538982861Yeah, they stack. You need to manage buff slots though and determine if you can survive without any defensive or healing buffs.
>>538984159Also they stack harder in 3 than any game afterwards
>>538984019>my autistic couple of posts were enough to influence the word cloud to that degreeWew
>>538984019sex fang
What are you all playing this weekend? I'm trying out Demon Gaze and am loving it. Such a step up from suffering through Dungeon Travelers just to get walled every half floor.
https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/135062062ONANI
>>538998603-sm
>>538996606still making my way through nexus. lab 9 out of 14 so far so making good progress.those demon gaze reviews on steam dont look too favorable. what makes you like it so much? its on sale so im sorta interested, but i also never really managed to get into refrain and dungeon travelers.
Etrian 6 will be announced at the same time as smt 6. I just know it.
>>538996606>What are you all playing this weekend?langrisser remake. Its extremely easy so far but girls riding flying beast is my fetish so I will deal with it hoping it gets harder as some point
>>539000343I feel like I'm liking it more since I disliked Dungeon Travelers so much desu. Dungeon Travelers I was so eager to play since I love the To-Heart games just for there to be painfully limited events and story for them. Then I'd picked probably the worst possible party for the main story and kept getting caught out on every boss fight because every fight feels like kusoge material. I gave up on floor 12 of the postgame when I found out that the true ending requires legitimately 100% completion and there were no easy grind spots or ways to speed up the progress. Straight up my most hated game that I've actually beaten.So yeah... anything I played straight after that would have felt like Breath of the Wild to me.
>fight frigid mantis foe on world map>its a rare breed>gets so strong eventually it just oneshots everything it hits>whole party dead except gunner>in a stroke of luck, gunner manages to dodge every attack and kill it with four force boosted charged shots in a row>my dead princess turbolevels 4 lvls and nobody else gets any xp, including the gunner who is the only member aliveuuh what? is that a known bug? ive never had a ded character get xp>>539005114not really selling the game there but glad youre having fun. i can never stick with these games that just kinda feel mediocre.
>>539013750I've had it happen a bunch. It's related to row swapping in Nexus. I don't remember what the exact logic is.
>>538996606I'm slowly playing through the Trails in the Sky remake demo because I honestly can't wait for the full game to be released.Once I'm finished with the demo I'll probably watch Thunderbolt Fantasy until the 19th when the full game releases.
>>539016735Did they make the fights less stat checky in the remake?
>>538996606Super Metroid romhacks mostly. I love Super but I only got into playing hacks last month with X-Fusion which was mostly a great time except for some absolutely brutal segments and some trial and error. It was maybe a bad hack to start with as a newcomer but I think veterans will have a mostly smoother time.
thread is page 10. . .
>>539026916No next stage, no hope...
>>539017827I'm playing it on Nightmare and unlike og FC and SC the prologue on Nightmare (which is the length of the demo) doesn't make me want to kill myself.
>>538996606Im playing Ero Dungeons and liking it more than DD2
How the heck do I survive the damn confusion spam of the harpy bitch in 2 bwosAlso I didn't know you could trigger bait on your own confused teammates and nuke themhahaaa
>>538996606glad you're liking Demon Gaze, I liked it tooI didnt play Dungeon Travelers 1, but did play the second one and liked that a lot. The character events were surprisingly enjoyable, like I had a little conversation based about how one of the girls I'd benched for a while when I was training up others felt neglected when she came back.Today I am probably going to be painting 40k stuff but might play Caves of Qud or something too
>>539036372Should have brought a war magnus or a hexer.
>>539036372Haven't played 2, but usually if a boss rapes you with 1 specific ailment it means there's an accessory in the shop to resist it.
>>539036372floor 11 anon
>>539041613>>539041847NTA but Ive literally never used a status resist accessory, do they do much?
>>539044357depending on the tier yes. 3 ups is 50% so it trivializes it for the most part. Ignoring boss gimmicks for losing a little damage is almost always worth it
>>539044357In later games they give you immunity
>>539036372Heh, buckle in, kid. This is where the real Etrian Odysseyâ„¢ begins.
>>539000343>what makes you like it so much?nta but its one of the better exp inc titles, the dungeons are pretty good, the bosses are solid (hard but not bullshit), you can complete the post game without having to minmax but can't sleepwalk through it eitherThe demon bosses becoming extra tools for you with optional super saiyan modes plus having four party members you can create (plus the MC) means you have a good variety of optionsalso lots of anime fanservice bullshit with the NPCs if you're into that
>>538996606Not playing, but finishing manosaba.It is alright and the girls are very cute
Any level suggestions for Kujura in eo3? Just fought him at my first chance and was able to get him down to ~20% but I know there is a second boss and I'm not sure I stand much of a chance if I don't do some grinding, especially assuming there's no time to heal in between. For reference my team is: Hoplite lv 55, Gladiator lv 53, Monk lv 55, Zodiac lv 55, Farmer lv 53
>>539054347Idk Im not a filthy betrayer
>>539054347You should be able to beat them at that level. There's no time to heal after Kujura either, it goes right into the next fight.
>>539055775t. flowdia>>539062760Nice, I do plan on catching up on some sea quests and upgrading my equipment, so maybe that will put me where I need to be
What are some fun teams for EO3? I'm tempted by quite a few of the classes but I'm not sure how they fit in like Ninjas and Droids.
>>539075379Regal Radiance, of course
Art made by etriambros is better than any other type of art
>>539079048without a doubt
>>539079048gimme a blank version of that template so i can mspaint one too
>>539036372Just have your WM warmight your force filled Gunner and enjoy the nuke.
>>539075379Ninja fits in anywhere as long as you don't use another class that uses the slot. Trivializes random encounters, does shitall for DPS. Droid fits in nowhere besides maybe the 3 droid meme party.Regal radiance is unironically strong but kinda boring since you will be spamming the same thing over and over. But you can yell REGAL RADIANCE!! everytime you cast it to make it better.Try four princesses and a wildling.
NITORYU
>>539086396why would she have tits? And if she has tits why would she have feathers on them?
etriam H doujin by SAKULA
Sex with bnuuy
>>539092308>Droids fit in nowhereWhat the fuck did you just fucking say about Yggs, you little bitch? I'll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Deep City, and I've been involved in numerous secret raids on the Deep Ones, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in fish warfare and I'm the top Yggdroid in the entire Deep City armed forces. You are nothing to me but just another explorer. I will wipe you the fuck out with HP Cannons the likes of which has never been seen before on Armoroad, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit about me to the Senatus? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of fishes across the Undersea Grotto and your Ariadne Threads are being traced right now so you better prepare for the FOEs, maggot. The FOEs that wipe out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You're fucking dead, explorer. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that's just with my rocket hands. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire FOE arsenal of the Deep City's Yggdrasil and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of Armoroad, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little "clever" comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn't, you didn't, and now you're paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit bots all over you and you will drown in it. You're fucking dead, explorer.
Okay now post the REAL Ygg pasta
What about Arbalests or wildlings? I really liked the animals in 5, are they similar in 3?
>>539122354Arbalist
To all the Yggdroids, or as I prefer to call them, YGGERS get out this is a Shogun thread
>>539125569Based!
>>539122354I really like both of these classes. Arbalist is one of the best overall damage dealers and I personally think wildlings are very good. The summons are more primitive than in 5, you summon the animal into a separate slot and then it automatically does it's own thing each turn. Both of these classes in the same party can be very effective since Wildling can inflict AOE ailments and then arbalist can follow-up with a strong attack at the end of the turn via Snipe.
>>539122354they do completely different things. arbalest is damage and wilding is status/binds. I usually run both because they have my favorite portraits
>>539121331Ok, if you want it I can give you a breakdown on Yggs.>General InformationYggs are a very good class that's often misunderstood because they work different from the other classes. Unlike other classes that use subclassing to complement their main class, Yggs' main class complements their subclass.They have the highest HP, highest STR and 2nd highest VIT; while their TEC and AGI is subpar, their LUC is downright terrible and their TP is stuck at 60.>Strengths and ToolkitTheir main gimmick is binding themselves to passively regenerate TP through Sleep Mode, which heals up to 10TP per bind every turn. This is probably the least impressive part about Yggs and it's mostly just so you don't have to worry about carrying Amritas with you.The strength of the Ygg lies on their fantastic passives and stats.Yggs are naturally immune to binds that don't come from their own skills, add to that Virus Scanner 10 (50% ailment resistance) and Yggs are extremely hard to lock down.Infravision compensates for their subpar AGI by giving them 40% increase to evasion and hit rate at night, making them bulky classes that can also dodge a lot of attacks.Overheat is an insane passive damage buff and the HP cost isn't nearly as taxing as it seems as long as you have a Hoplite or anyone on healing duty.Their bots are also surprisingly useful if you're not using the 6th slot in your party. They chase your party's elemental attacks with TEC elemental damage. The bots have the Ygg's stats, so their TEC isn't very high, so to compensate they gave them very high damage numbers (170% TEC damage at level 10) so if you give your Ygg TEC equipment and books the damage can start getting higher.Lastly, HP Cannon. It's not very good HOWEVER, it's very funny to use against the true final boss.
>>539121331>>539128837>Subclassing Options>Ygg/GladHighest STR in the game and Infravision makes Blade Rave consistent as all hell and Nine Smashes into an actually reliable option. Also, Overheat > Berserker Vow > Charge > Blade Rave is very funny.>Ygg/HopArguably the best Hop in the game. Highest HP, 2nd highest VIT, immunity to binds, 50% resistance to all ailments with Virus Scanner and 40% increase to evasion with Infravision makes them an incredibly durable machine. >Ygg/MonkOne of the best Fist Monks in the game. Having the highest STR means the world with how Fist damage calculation works. But, most importantly, Monks have Ascetic Deeds, at level 10 heals you for 90HP everytime you use a skill, which means that Overheat 9 is a free 40% dmaage buff and Overheat 10 goes from costing 127HP to a measly 37HP for a 50% damage buff.>Ygg/Bucc2nd best Swashbuckling user. Look, you can't beat a Shogun/Bucc in terms of Swashbuckling, but you're going Deep City route so this is your next best option if you want a swashbuckler with you.Data Mining increases crit chance by 10% and makes crits deal 190% damage. So Data Mining, Overheat, Lady Luck and Crit accesories makes them actually hit pretty hard with Swashbuckling.Also, if you want to summon bots, this is your best way to proc chases while also dealing good damage (Of course, assuming you don't have Shogun unlocked).One piece of warning though, Overheat activates every time Swashbuckling procs, so leave it at level 6 if you don't have someone to babysit them.
>>539121331>>539129075>Meh and Bad Subclassing Options>Ygg/PrincessI had an Y/P in my party. It works, but I only had her because I wanted a full Yggdroid party. If you want a full Ygg party it definitely works, there's nothing wrong with it, you have a bulky Princess that's very hard to lock down. But if you're not doing that, just get a regular Princess.>Ygg/ZodI also had this in my party. This one doesn't work at all. I literally only had her because I wanted someone to summon bots, and for the endgame she was my HP Cannon user.>Ygg/ArbYggs have the highest STR and Overheat. However, Front Mortar is not very sustainable (16 TP with 2 binds) and Double Action is pretty much not viable.It can still work, but without Charge, Front Mortar really loses a lot of it's appeal.You could however have a Snipe/Sharpshooter Y/A in a disable focused party and it could work as well.>Ygg/Ninja, Ygg/WildlingYggs do not have the TEC or LUC to try to inflict ailments or binds.>Ygg/Farmerlmao>Ygg/ShogunUnless you're modding your game or playing a second playthrough you're not having this one in your party, so I put it in the Meh category.Magatoki works well since you're already going to be exploring mostly at night thanks to Infravision and Daifuhensha makes Yggs stronger and bulkier, and thanks to Infravision they will be able to work as a pseudo dodge tank as well.They're also a pretty bulky Warrior Might user.The biggest problem is that Magatoki and Daifuhensha both use different body parts, so TP recovery becomes an issue.Also, fun fact. Bloody Lance increases the damage of HP Cannon. You're never going to use that unless you're going for that one strategy against the true final boss, but it's funny that the combination of Armoroad's and Deep City's forces can create one of the strongest countermeasures against the Deep Ones.
Thanks YggGPT
>>539129902You're welcome.Kill al fish.
>>539130680>>539130680>>539130680>>539130680anything
Yggers tongue my abyss
>>539137350>abyssWrong series about cute lolis going down a big hole
I'm reading Treasure Island and can't stop playing Great Voyage in my mind. Good job Koshiro
>>539120138
the best
>>539141758they should swap clothes
>>539155187This but they ditch the bottoms completely.
Guild name: Godslayers
Heavy armor wearing etriams are the best
Holy shit I didn't realize how much time I'd put into this game. I just beat floor 20 on 3 and I've somehow been playing for 80 hours... Forgive the shitty lighting but I also want to say that my jaw dropped when the sprite took up two screens
>>539180206nice
>>539180206That's something you would see pretty frequently with DS games, it is fairly neat though, yeah.
>>539185054It gave me that feeling of when you're watching a movie and the letterboxing goes away. Not technically impressive but after spending 80 hours on the cramped upper screen, it really added to the moment
Class of Heroes 3 is getting a remaster in a couple days, any one with experience with it? Worth a run?
>>539203591Can't say I've played 3 specifically, but the class of heroes series is VERY old school. Closer to the actual wizardry games, so going straight from EO to CoH is a bit like going from high school baseball to the MLB. They are quite good games if you can keep up with them.
Whats the next day Next Stage is supposed to come out?
>>539211645Release of P4 Remake+2 to 10 weeks.
>>539092308>TrivializesI'm so tired of this meme Reddit word
>>539215213Most 3rd graders know what that average english word means, why does it upset you anon?
>>539215954I also know what it means. It's just overused in video game discussion. Honestly, does nobody else notice that?
>>539216104I kinda get you but i personally dislike it because of how clinical it sounds.
>>539216942Yeah I think maybe you're putting a finger on why it sounds Reddit to me.
>>539210282thicc sticc
>>539216104>It's just overused in video game discussion. Honestly, does nobody else notice that?No because unlike you I don't visit those places and then get triggered when people use everyday English words.
etriam but Diablo II Vengeance Paladin
>>539220218>I don't visit those placesYou best start believing in places where people discuss video games, anon.
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/893659-etrian-odyssey-v-beyond-the-myth/81033065
>>539222978That's just Pugilist
I'm gonna play Etrian 2 for the first time.Give me your best genral tips!
>>539236771Be good, git better. Be cautious, but be aware that it can hurt you worse if in a situation or event you can't escape from. Always carry a thread/wire with you—in fact, consider carrying two.
>>539236771Play 3
>>539236771get a ronin on the front row and a gunner at the back row
>>539236771It's not your imagination; certain encounter formations will always open with a blindside.
>>539222978Etrian but Danny DeVitto.
>>539236771Always carry at least two warp wires at all times
>>539236771These anons are lying too you, the game punishes you for hoarding warp wires!
>>539236771Equipped weapon type affects turn order the most. The level of the skill being used as well. You probably should just look at a skill sim before you play, skills level very slowly in 2. It's good to have a skill that can stop and lure FOEs, it'll make exploring smoother.
Should I reclass any of the untold 2 story party to anything else?
>>539254256You should play on classic instead.
>>539254256just flaviofafnir, arianna(leader, damage), flavio(gunner)bert, chloe(still warmagi, but heal/support)front guard works the same even if caster is in backrowarianna buffs and followsup on elemental attacks that fafnir and flavio provides
>>539254256Supposedly Flavio is amazing as a Hexer, but Survivalist is my favourite class so I've never done it
What's the benefit of reclassing Flavio? I've thought about doing it in the past but 2U Survivalist too fun of a class for me to ever go through with it.
>>539259520The usual recommendation I see is to change him to hexer to focus more on ailments and debuffs sincehe's usually focusing on setting up ailments for ailing slash anyways.Personally I refuse to class change the story party members.
>>539254598All the new content is in the story and I found the story in the first game hella charming. my only problem is that I have no idea how tf warmagi is supposed to work and I'm a bit iffy on having another boring guard spammer for the whole game... Untold 1 revolving around the elemental shields killed my motivation quickly. At least in the last game it was an ultra cute girl as the tank, now it's just an ojisan and his loli
What would the story party be for the other games if they got Untold remakes? How would it even work for added classes cause there's no way they'd give you 4 without an imperial right? Would they kill off your landshadk for an Imperial character?
>>539264467The main thing to getting U2 war magus to work is to remember that changing formation is completely free. You can have Chloe sit in the back row until an enemy has an ailment, then move up front and start swinger her swordstaff. And then once the ailment wears off slide back again.Obviously this works better with defensive ailments so you don't need to worry about protecting your WM while she's in the front row.
>>539265105That.... that hadn't even occurred to me... sounds like a pain for random encounters but hella good for bosses. I followed what people suggested and have just beelined to the ailment slash and generally ailments for every character. Is this one of the games where paralysis is good or should I be focusing on poison or sleep?
>>539264467Well story mode is not Etrian and U2 doesn't even restrict any content to story mode like U1. Classic is the only acceptable way to play the Untold games imo.
>>539265473For ailments the ones you listed are as good as they usually are, which is to say generally not the main ones you want to rush to upgrade. But since you want some ailment for ailing slash it's not like you ignore them either. The big sleeper ailment here is blind since there's a restaurant food that makes blind enemies can never hit (unless the attack ignores accuracy), turning it into a fairly reliable disable for most enemies.
>>539266393>U2 doesn't even restrict any content to story mode like U1.Fafnir is restricted to story mode and that's reason enough to at the very least rush through story mode and carry him over into Classic via NG+.
"I am sure to avoid all damage because I am wearing almost nothing at all." - Fencer (probably)
>>539268815>shieldNot light enough. She's boned.
>>539268815That bnuuy should also be naked
>>539268629A poor reason but you do you. I don't know why anyone would want him in their party in the first place.
>>539269531that's why her eyes are covered, so she doesn't get any strange ideas
>>539269531She's obviously gone for a 1Kat build
>>539270398But she is the dog fucker. I mean, the archer.
>>539275758A bow and arrow is a lot like a katana if you think about it
>>539268629fafnir is the donut steel OP as shit baby mode class anon. You shouldn't give a shit
>>539236771There's an ultra super secret special bonus if you let gunko finish her intro walk animation.
>>539284117man its amazing how much the 3d filter helped these games
>>539268815God bless her. Especially braids fencer, she is the best one
>wanna play Nexus>remember Vampire portrait>QR sheet is 90% ded> i cri
>>539296450i cant tell what youre asking for specifically but if youre looking for a vamp qr code this one should work
>>539266393What's so bad about the story mode? They give you an alright party and it keeps the vibe of exploring
>>539268815Fencer tanks was such a cool concept!
>>539303234Would have been better had it focused more on being a counterattacker than a dodge tank
FENCER plus DOUBLE ATTACK
Long time no see, /eog/. I was the one who playing EO3 overly cautiously. I... defeated Ketos in around 5 turns and now, GODDAMNIT, HOW ANNOYING ARE THE DROPS FROM THE MONSTERS FROM THE STAR DOORS FROM THE 1ST STRATUM!!! I'M GRINDING FOR MATS AND AM GETTING FUCKING NOTHING AT ALL!
>>539303137story mode is the antithesis of EO anon. EO is about creating your own part to explore and using a canned party ruins it
4chan i am bad at the video game. at 45 hours i have reached petal bridge in nexus on expert in the upper 30s. i had to rest and rebuild my gunner with charged shot to kill shellbeast.should i be focusing on fewer skills and not take single points in things like fire/ice/volt wall or only taking 2 in the binds? should I not take status attack up and double fist on pugilist? i wish the game had numbers in descriptions.
>>539323675>spreading that thindont do that. Ideally every party member has 1 job MAYBE 2.
When does Labyrinth of Refrain start to open up and get good? I just beat Pecorino but I still feel so limited with what my party can do
>>539323675>i wish the game had numbers in descriptions.just use the sim? https://reinasakuraba.github.io/EO-Skill-Sim/eox/>should i be focusing on fewer skillsit depends, passives like status up are usually "one point wonder" skills where the first 1sp has the most impact. After that you can ignore it until you finished the more important skills.For nexus pug you want to max double punch and ignore one-two punch.
>>539324403You will be auto-attacking for the entire game unless you have a magic pact or two for your Marginal Mazes in which case you'll be using magic. Peco drops a strong one for that point in the game though you'll be limited by the MP costs. It's easy to play around though since collecting mana on the map restores your party's mana pool but the combat won't really get much deeper than where you're currently at unless you get really autistic with reincarnating which is largely overkill for Refrain.I love the game but if you aren't captivated by the other aspects or aren't curious what sort of dungeon, story beat, or dungeon subplot will show up next then you probably won't enjoy the rest of the game. The soundtrack is worth checking out at the very least.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sNFVnNrmzOEhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-58GzpMK9z4>>539284081There's at least 2 or 3 classes in 2U that are even more OP babby mode but they lack the flavor and transformation mechanic.
>>539270036Oneshotting Ur-Child.
>>539265020Untold 1+2 each gave a class from the next game1U: Icky the Gunner2U: Aretarda the Princess3U: EO4* exclusive class unless they just ended up rolling with the 1U + 2U cast again.
>>539299040You need 100 QR codes (that match your region) and someone that's a vampire in those codes to unlock the quest. The list in the OP only has 21-22 usable NA codes.
>>539323425In this case, EO3 is not EO at all. Sure you'll still be creating a party but then you'll be slowly involved in a story, with even an option of choosing a route, like in a VN.
>>539333975You don't tough. At least I have the class unlocked and I certainly don't have 100 QR codes scanned. The only thing you need is play on heroic, register 1 of each class, and have a save with 100h on it.The 100h means you can't get it at the start but it's either that or the 100 qr codes.
>>539334990its the canned party that is the problem retard not having a storyline
>>539334990Every game, including the first one, had a story. Worldbuilding makes the games better and more interesting. The difference is that the characters you create and the decisions they make is for you to fill in. Taking that away is what makes it not EO. EO3 still qualifies here but the untolds do not.
>>539338246>need 100 hoursThat's the thing, I never played past the first stratum... Do QR codes stay between saves? I'm kinda screwed if not
>>539343715The QR codes stay between saves yes. You can always idle in town for a few IRL days.
>>539339181So bad, because 1U is one of my faves, because it's the best way to enjoy the 1st entry
I loved the Untold story modes...
>>539303137Making your own party, which includes names/portraits/class, is one of the main appeals of EO. There's a million other JRPGs you can play if you want to follow the wild adventures of Protagonist-kun. >>539334990That's not correct at all. All of the EO games have always had stories and world-building, that's fine. Fixed protagonists that have fixed dialogue, personalities, and appearances goes against what EO is. It was a shameless attempt at going for a wider audiences and it luckily failed. People like me that are strongly against Story mode are not against the games having narratives, we're against the fixed group of protagonists.
I just hope Fafnir becomes a generic class in a future game like Highlander did though it might be too reliant on the 2U/Nexus Force Boost mechanic to slot in anywhere else.
>>539346016>>539347097The truth is it doesn't really matter that much as long as you enjoy the game. Personally I don't even care that much about the personalities, but I don't like the default classes the characters come with. Theory crafting parties is half the fun.
>>539349449>it might be too reliant on the 2U/Nexus Force Boost mechanic to slot in anywhere else.It definitely is. Half of Fafnir's skill tree is dedicated to Force Boost and half of its skills are only accessible through Force Boost.
>>539349449Just make it purely a Henshin Hero derived class and it'll work fine
>>539349753story party was a nice balance of obvious-to-play classes, which makes sense. get the basics down with story, dive into the real shit with classici like naming my party after my characters from my own stuff and playing with their personalities in mind, and i also like dungeon diving with a drunk canadian princess and her handlers or a genki princess, my bullied childhood friend (i am his bully), and some homeless guy and the special needs girl he adoptedonce i get through nexus i should go for untold again. i booted it up the other day to find that my floor 25 save file was gone for some reason
>>539333975Last year I managed to get 100 qr codes in NA. I don't remember where I got them from other than the list here though, probably Preddit or Gamefaqs?Honestly if you're not in a huge rush to start with the vampire right away I'd suggest idling for 100 hours instead, all that scanning sucked. I wouldn't trust the internet nowadays to host every usable image consistently, and it'd really suck to get 50+ in and realize there just aren't enough anymore
>>539327492>>539323835aight, i'll respec and specialize. thanks for the sim; i'm usually just vegging out while playing not in front of another screen but i can probably keep my phone around to check rates and shit.also, is the overhaul mod a big change? should i finish a vanilla playthrough first?also, does anyone have the streetpass injection shit for vampire? i read you can just dump a file of someone's streetpasses and if you put one with a vampire there it'll unlock it for you
>>539352737You should never play any of the overhaul mods in general so just finish the playthrough that you're currently doing.
>>539352737I looked at the nexus overhaul mod a while ago since I'm pretty dissatisfied with some of the nexus classes and it looked so bad it made nexus balance seem good.
>>539348781>>539349753>>539339060>>539339181EOU1 Classic Mode -> EO2 Classic Mode -> EO3 -> EO4 -> EO5 -> EONDid I get the ideal "order that the games shoud be played" right?
>>539353701there is extremely references to other games but as long as you play 1 first and nexus last it doesn't really matter the order
>>539353078The /eog/ balance patch for Nexus on the other hand is actually decent
>>539344909>QR codes stay between saves yesOh thank God. I already have 100 codes but wasn't sure they retained; that makes this way easier.
>>539353701There's enough differences between EO1 and EO1U that you can consider them completely different games.
>>539355670I know... only the 1st floor map and events are identical to the original, but the rest vastly differs... Can't expect any less from a *remake*, and I still like it more than the original, because the original was bugged.
I really don't like grimoires... in practice it just means you're spamming the same passives and buffs regardless of class.
>>539354987Didn't even see that one. Doesn't look bad actually.After trying all the classes I do think the balance is not as bad as people make it out to be. Only class that actively feels bad is zodiac. Even pug has some redeeming qualities.
>>539353701You can do that or you can start with 3 and move 1u/2u classic to after 4 but before 5/X. You could start with the original 1 or 2 but I honestly don't recommend it to newfags since it usually turns them away from the series and they don't understand why fans original the series so much.
>>539354987I'm just fundamentally against it, as somebody that's been gaming their whole life, I only want the original game from the dev as intended, for better or for worse. I don't want some random guy's mod take on it. The only thing I'm for is patches that restore things like the original voice acting or fix any censorship. >>539357732I can assure you that zodiacs are not bad in X.
>>539358675How are they not bad. You can also calculate that their dmg/turn is worse than any other dps in the game. A gunner does nearly double, while using half the TP. Every other class is not only above them, but also brings some form of utility (ailment/bind/buff/tp regen). Only ronin has no utility, just spams helm splitter. After using them the dmg difference was also really noticeable to me.
>>539360694Because they're not bad and you need to look at other things like risk and such. They can stay in the back and reliably do good damage for both single targets and AOE. They can help with TP support and elemental attack buffing. Their break is a decent AOE that also negates TP for a turn. Then of course you have prophecies for elemental defense utility. A zodiac/shogun can do very good damage with peerless demon buffing things multi-strike ether and meteor. And ronin does have some utility as well, that's not even correct.
>>539358675Hope you realize that's a personal preference of yours based on arbitrary reasons (not that's anything wrong with that). It is strange you are trying to push this personal preference of yours on other people.
>>539362224Well obviously it's my preference but there's nothing strange about discussion. Somebody brought up balance patch mods and I gave my opinion on it.
>>539353701Frankly there's no real need to play in any order, other than Nexus last because it's a greatest hits, and DS 1 and 2 first if you intend to do them because of the increased crust that is easier to overlook if you haven't played the later, better games yet.
Is 12-13 too low to fight chimera...? I killed the mob foes beforehand but my damage against the boss is so low. I'm running out of tp before even getting him a third down. Am I supposed to lure him into every pit before fighting him or am I meant to hit and run from each one?
>>539363142Well if you don't mean to say other people shouldn't play with overhaul mods dont tell other people they shouldn't play with overhaul mods>>539353078
A version of Etrian 1 that's less reliant on shield walls would be nice
>>539361836>They can stay in the backThey're made of paper tough, they have the worst def in the game. But it's not that far off others so whatever.>They can help with TP support and elemental attack buffingWasting your dpses turn on saving some TP seems pretty bad. Its also nerfed a lot from eo3. The buff can be ok i guess but its basically a worse attack order. Their own attack buff doesn't even affect meteor.>Then of course you have prophecies for elemental defense utilityI forgot about the prophecies, those are good. But you only need 1sp in them and work fine on a subclass as well>And ronin does have some utility as well, that's not even correct.Not if you focus upper stance and spam helm splitter like i said. Which is what you do to maximize their dpsMulti boosted meteor hits for ~1320% (at best, on average) over TWO turns and costs 80 friggin TP. Ricochet is 1190% ..every turn ..for 35TP. Still not seeing it, but if you want to give a party they are good in i will try it tomorrow and see, i got some more sp to spend since last time i tried them.
Somehow, it seems I'm missing a chest still in EO3. I thought I had them all, then discovered one more, but that still wasn't enough to give the stamp for opening them all.
>>539368828I think you're way too concerned with dps and you're using that as a measuring stick for "how good" a class is when in practice, you're not always going to be doing perfectly calculated "max dps" play the entire time. For example, imperials do huge damage with their drive skills but have lowered defense until activated, thus putting them at risk. Same thing with gunner's charge shots. In your previous post you talked about other classes bringing utility and mentioned "tp regen" but now that's suddenly a waste for zodiac? It was nerfed from 3 but it's still a decent way to help manage tp pools and allow longer outings. Etheric gleam is elemental only but their charge skills do affect meteor and that's really what's important. And you bring up ricochet but it's pierce damage only. A zodiac brings the coverage of all three elements plus bash with meteor, along with aoe. Gunner's only have single target elemental damage with a chance of line piercing if you get that one skill. It's not about what class can do the most damage, you're ignoring many other parts of a class. Overall zodiac provide good type coverage, elemental defense + buffing, and tp management utility.
>>539368828I can vouch for the other guy, zodiac was MVP for me in the abyssal princess fight and they are not a bad class
>>539367696I did mean to say that, my opinion is that you shouldn't play the games with overhaul mods.
>>539369278There's a chest exclusive to the true route but it's also likely you missed one or two in the hidden areas of floor 17 like I did once. If you find one, finding the other will be really easy given the shape of the floor.
>>539371559I did the true route, so I have that one. I had missed the bottom right one on B17, that was the one I found, but I'm pretty sure I have all of them on that floor now.I'll probably feel foolish when I look at the maps again later and find it.
>>539370554"People shouldn't use x because I don't like using x" doesn't add much to discussion now does it?
>>539373350You are getting way too defensive over this anon. An anon asked what to do and I gave him my answer. I value the original intended experience that the developers wanted over how some random modder thinks the game should be balanced.
>>539358305>or you can start with 3I did, now call me a motherfucker, because I did a long time ago.
>>539373879* BTW, the Hoplite + Ninja is called Naofumi Iwatani from the Rising of the Shield Hero.
>>539372589>I had missed the bottom right one on B17Did you get the top left one too?
>>539373879I'll call you a motherfucker for that sausage-fest of a party.
>>539370220>I think you're way too concerned with dpsI mentioned utility and TP usage as well several times.>you're not always going to be doing perfectly calculated "max dps" play the entire timeIf you build your party with synergy in mind generally the idea is that you can>In your previous post you talked about other classes bringing utility and mentioned "tp regen" but now that's suddenly a waste for zodiacReferring to highlander here, for which it's a passive so it doesn't use up their turn.>And you bring up ricochet but it's pierce damage only. A zodiac brings the coverage of all three elements plus bash with meteor, along with aoe.Huh? Gunner charged shots also have all the elements, plus stab instead of bash. Yes its mostly single target, but usually thats the most important. Zodiac AOE skills also means uncharged, and those are a lot weaker.
>>539374883I meant that they have more aoe type coverage. All of gunners aoe options are pierce. Zodiac's aoe's can't be charged but normally in situations that you need them, you don't need as much damage (like random encounters). And yes you should obviously try to build a good party with good synergy but the flow of battle is not always predictable with things like ailments, binds, and attack patterns in general. I guess all utility that consumes a turn is bad in your opinion but dark ether is still pretty good despite being nerfed. They're a good class overall, the only general weakness that zodiac face is needing a elemental weakness to exploit for singularity.
>>539374243>spoilerI will now call you a motherfucker with no guilt in my heart
>>539358675>I only want the original game from the dev as intended, for better or for worseshit opinion. Mods are THE best thing about PC
>>539353078dogshit take
>>539385781None of the games need overhaul mods in the first place.
>>539386895and?
>>539387080So they're not worth playing because the original experiences are already good.
>>539387184what if I've already experienced them?
>>539387330Then play the game with a new party or play something else. I've done about four play-throughs of 3 and never once had the urge to see how some random nerd would balance the game. I feel like you didn't like me using the word "never" here so fine, I'll take that back. Maybe if you've done multiple play-throughs and are that desperate for more then maybe mod overhauls serve as some way to mix up the experiences. But for somebody playing a game for the first time, I will always recommend playing the original with the only mods being ones that do things like restore content that was changed during localization. I don't have anything against modders by the way, it just seems strange that you have people that wouldn't want the intended original experience by default.
Just tried out Cyclopean Hunt for the first time. WHAT DO YOU MEAN THERE ARE FOES THAT CANNOT BE SEEN ON THE MAP!? The Vampire Trees aren't actually too tough, but still a major pain in the ass since it looks like you can't run away and they tend to show up after only 4 turns
>>539397320I think they work like the 6th stratum pumpkin FOEs from 2 where they'll appear on specific tiles if you enter combat near them and they'll make their way towards you. 2 had a tell where they generally appeared on tiles that had big flower patches on them but I can't remember if 3 had anything like that.
>>539386895>needit isn't about "need" retard
i'm actually kind of impressed someone dislikes that mods exist as an optionlike how do you get upset that you have new ways to play? what about randomizers? wario land 3 randomizer is a blast and i had to learn how to skip certain things without the relevant items on the fly and it ruled. that game has so many secret passages for no reason
>>539404567I don't dislike that mods exist, I just think that one should want to play the games with the original intended balance. If you read the reply chain I took back the "never" part. I guess it's fine if you want to spice up a new playthrough but we're talking about the EO series specifically here and I always thought the games have been balanced fairly well so I never saw the appeal of large scale balance adjustments. I'm more okay with something like an early class unlock but only for veterans that have already completed the game.
How much do you like the elemental dragons as post game bosses?
>>539404567Yeah it's quite retarded. That EO3 overhaul mod is really good. Even just normal balance mods can really enhance the experience, such as making immunize not just an insta win button. I can't help but imagine these are the same people that defend Hero in Nexus cause they're blinded by """"developer intent"""". Anyways, I'm gonna go back to playing HotA, which is a way better experience than vanilla btw.
>>539398314Interesting, not seeing any obvious tells so I'm pretty much just running around terrified trying to get everything mapped out and then I will come back and do more encounters. The feel of the 6th stratum definitely lends to a horror mindset.
>>539411306it was better in the later entries but they could have done some balance patches themselves. they had the possibility for it. playtesters cant figure out everything, but the players sure will.>>539404567"play unmodded for your first playthrough" is a commonly recommended advice that holds across all games which is fair
Do you normally pick out one party member who you self insert as and then treat the rest of the guild as your friends or do you separate yourselves entirely from your story?
>>539418164Its not so much a self insert, but I do generally have one thats "my character", like someone I'd make in a tabletop campaignthey are not necessarily the "main" character of the party though
>>539418164self inserting is cringenotice however that in the games some text refer to party members by name ("Teach steps forward"), but others refer to "you" ("You kneel down"). but it's unclear who "you" is despite clearly being able to take actions in the labyrinth. if "you" is not a party member that means there is a sixth person.
I self insert as Landsknecht-chan cause I like to imagine myself as a cute but tough tomboyish girl, with a hat.
>>539420117"You" is the secret 6th party member who doesnxt fight but does draw the map and has sex with the bunnies.
>>539418164Im the god of chaos that controls the adventureres hearts and possesses the monster/male characters in every rape doujin
>>539374315Thankfully, that one I'd found naturally the first time through.
>>538984019It is now a later date, so here's the word cloud for the actual previous thread.
>>539434618>thinking princess
>>539434965Did blonde Princess always have such thick eyebrows?
>>539434618Umm, bros?Are we...g*mers?
I'm curious, is it normal to stop at level 4 for skills so you don't have to worry about the tp increase? even for status moves I rarely go for the level 5 until much further into thr game
>>539434618>etriams overheathorny etriams in your area?
I've been enjoying EO3 but I do have to say the music is mid.
>>539439816Would you love gunner-chan if she wasn't wearing tights?
>>539418164I don't like self-inserting, I only make parties consisting of the five flattest, cutest, and most loli-ish portraits available. For me, the protagonist of these games are collectively the entire guild itself which means NPCs are just talking to the five active guild members. "I" don't exist in the game as a self-insert or any kind of invisible guild manager or whatever. That's the thing with EO though, the "protagonist" of these games is very open-ended and people are free to view it however they want. There's not really a right or wrong way. And basically this is why I'm against Story mode as well, I don't want the games deciding the protagonists for me. There's not many turn based RPGs where I can have a party that fits my tastes like how EO does it.
>>539446528remove fang
>>539444890Get some taste.
>>539444890Try listening to the Super Arrange
>>539439130Yes. Even the first TP increase will noticeably drain your pool faster if you use the skill often. And I almost never max any skill out, until maybe the postgame. Lvl 9 it is.
>>539447315For crimes against fang enjoyers, I will blob you.
>>539453101I recognize that Egyptian loli
>>539454237Egyptian themed labyrinth in Next Stage doko
>>539453101>>539455638etrian blobs beat hgg2d blobs any day of the week
when's the announcement (real)
>>539455638>it's on another planet
Did you know the best subclass for zodiac is warlock and the best sub for sov is themselves?
>>539458489I like shogun for extra damage on multi-strikes and meteor along with the night damage bonus. Peerless demon also works for the regular uncharged binary spells strangely enough, each target will take a little more damage than the previous one which is nice.
>>539458489huh, didn't know that
>>539459441>each target will take a little more damage than the previous oneMakes sense if you think about it. I don't like going out in the labyrinth at night though, that's when the creeps come out.Since peerless demon works the best with meteor do I just focus that and ignore singularity/binaries?
>>539470452I still go for tri-element coverage along with meteor. It works best with meteor like you said but it'll still help the multi-strike binaries out. I would just get used to exploring at night since Avidya Sight is like a free %10 extra damage for 2 SP. The max level in Nexus is 130 so you'll have enough SP, it just takes time to build all their elements along with meteor. If you find an enemy that's weak to bash though, multi-strike ether meteor with peerless demon will do some very nice damage.
>>539452549I never know how much you need for debuffs or ailments either... I know poison scales but I don't know how much application rate increases at each breakpoints
I pretty much always leave skills at either half level or max level, simply due to me liking to autisically balance my SP this way. There might be some exceptions though where I'll leave a skill at 1 or something that's not half or max. It depends on the game and how SP starved what I'm going for is.>>539475979Just look at a skill sim, the OP pastebin has links to all of them.
>>539434618kaishaku shogun
For me it's buccaneers
Finally getting to play picrel for the first time, on original hardware. is the story mode good for someone who has never play these kinds of games before?
>>539495634No, not at all. It'll give you the completely wrong impression of the series so I always recommend classic.
>>539496292I started Story mode and went to the shop and I was unprepared for the Jazz music. I am a FAN. is all the music like this?
>>539496692Yuzo Koshiro is the composer for the series so all of the music is generally very good. Also go back and play on classic.
>>539496854okay, I am going to play classic first but this soundtrack is pretty good.
>>539496854Oh shit, this is really like a single player D&D game but in video game form. The map "making" is just for cartography as the dungeons have a set layout, but this is neat.
>>539499405It's inspired by Wizardry, like a lot of Japanese turn based games were. The map making was a way to use the DS to simulate drawing your own map on graph paper. Coming up with names for your own party members, maybe giving them a backstory, and just having them grow along with the journey is one of the series charm points.
>>539496692There's variety but if you're loving the shop music, you'll definitely love what else the series' soundtracks have to offer. Even after moving away from the synths to live instruments, the music has always remained 80s as fuck is some of the best ways possible.
I think I finally worked out how to add custom portraits in EOX. Does anyone know artists with designs that'd fit into EO? For now I'm trying to edit some of yuuji's art. The position is still fucked but I'll get there eventually.
>obese elf nearly kills the threadQuickly, post cute girl and handsome men etriams to save it
>>539519254SEXOOOOOOOO (middle)SEX!! (middle left)SEX! (far right)SEX (middle right)
I think I'm going about things wrong. I had planned on taking on one of the dragons with my party around level 67 before doing my 3rd run through and getting the true ending, that way the first level cap would already be unlocked and no xp would be wasted, but I am getting my ASS kicked. For the first time in my playthrough I am thinking about kicking farmer from the party :(
>>539524401You're thinking about this the wrong way. The solution is to add four more farmers.
Also was trying to figure out leg binds to take on the kraken and it's only after dying like 5 times that I realize kagenui requires a knife weapon to be used. For some reason I thought you had to create a shadow clone and kagenui was one of those moves that destroys the shadow and also has a chance to inflict leg bind... Honestly that's on me for subclassing a new class and taking it straight to a boss without ever using it before.
>>539526494Somehow I'm not sure that's correct...
What type of weapon or attack should appear more often in EO?
>>539528902EO needs more scythes
>>539496692All the games have pretty banging music. There is a bit of a debate going around whether the FM or instrument soundtracks are better though
>>539532310>There is a bit of a debate going around whether the FM or instrument soundtracks are better thoughI just go with the originals. There are some good live instrument remixes of the DS trilogy's music across the Super Arranges and Untolds but many of them aren't quite as good as the original versions. EO3 has like 4 of the best boss themes in the series (the stratum boss theme, ocean boss theme, 5th and 6th stratum boss themes) but all the live remixes botch either something about the original or the entire thing.On the flip side, I just can't imagine 4's soundtrack working with synths since it was very much composed with live instruments in mind. The FM version of 5's soundtrack in particular sounds off for a similar reason.
IV is better with early class unlock
>>539536886That's not saying much and not going to completely salvage the game.
>>539528902BUUUSSTTEEERR beamCAAAANNOOONNN!!!
I can't figure out where to go next in the sea, bros. Talking about EO3. I've gotten to the first three towns with ocean quests and I can see the fourth but I haven't figured out how to get there. It's surrounded by whirlpools and reefs and shit. Haven't figured out how to get through any of that. Any pointers?
>>539538642? 4 is good, it doesn't need to be "salvaged".
>>539542690I don't recall the specifics of what you can access when, but you can't do everything straight away. There are some ship upgrades you only get by reaching the next stratum.
>>539547661Oh I see, thanks bro. I'll see what turns up.
I've recently been wrapping up a second NG+ playthrough of 3hd. Like 190 hours total since it carried over the time from the previous one. The only thing left to do is beat AG. My party:Shogun/bucc (bucc portrait), ygg/monk, gladiator/hoplitezodi/ninja, zodi/princessThe shogun bucc is using the loli bucc portrait and dual wields rapier+gun, it's something I've always wanted to do and the HD collection enables this since you can choose any portrait. Shogun is the main class simply because it's the only way to dual wield in 3 but they're more focused on the bucc tree. They also functioned as basically a tank/defensive role because they can easily keep guard tactic up for entire boss fights due to crazy limit building. They can also get stuff like uroboros guard up every third or fourth turn. The ygg/monk was me just wanting to try a ygg punch monk out and using monk to offset the hp consumption each turn. The gladiator/hoplite might seem weird but I just wanted to make an offensive spear user using the loli wildling portrait. So charged blitzritters and long thrusts.The dual zodi was me being a yuri fan and shipping the zodi loli while also wanting to try a triple zodi setup with the clone out. The ninja/zodi does huge damage with charged elemental limits and I can even have the zodi/princess dark ether the line for two free meteors which is good. I really like the zodi/ninja setup a lot, having one slot for the elemental limit gives more room for limits on everybody else. Easily the highest damage dealer of the party. The zodi/princess was more purely for healing and support with their only magic going up to volt prophecy. The zodi/ninja focused on ice/fire prophecy along with meteor. Overall this party has worked for everything.
>>539418164i used to self insert with a character, but since i started using my oc's i'm now more or less just a guildmaster/tactician that draws the maps and gives orders in a fight. i'm my own isekai protagonist, the hero of "i got sent to another world but i still have no powers but i'm good at turn based combat?!?!?!" which probably already exists
Thoughts on the Alc and Bucc Nexus mod?
>>539555904i dont play nexus but i like bucc hope this helps
>>539556186Only moderately
I have no idea if I'm spending my skill points well in EO3. It would be nice if the game showed some numbers for that shit instead of just damage up or whatever.
>>539560890Use of a skill sim is almost required to enjoy Etrian, it is really retarded Atlus never started showing you numbers in-game
>>539560890how are there still people who dont just look this shit up?
>>539562478I prefer to raw dog my vidya like in the old days but yeah I'll probably do this.
>>539562478In most games its much more fun not to look stuff up at all on a first playthrough so I think its pretty natural to come in not using one, but most games dont have progression that looks like thisIts a shame skill sims are so mandatory for EO
>>5395641982 is an exception in that regard
>>539564593Its worst in 2 but its a problem the whole series has, for example not knowing buccs chases are worse than shoguns (when youd think they'd be better, since they need more planning with your party)
>>539564198"the wonders of discovery and exploration" etcpretty sure they did it on purpose to drive community discussionpic related is still the best one for me
>>539566167does the last level just do literally nothing on this??
>>539566167yeah, lvl2 and lvl10 does nothing. lvling from 3 to 4, and from 5 to 6 also makes the skill worse (decreases 2 item chance)
>>539567335>>539566530replied to the wrong post
>>539565632They're actually slightly stronger at max level and cheaper. The issue is just the chase reduction chance and not being as flexible since they only chase one damage type.
>>539577070The virgin bucc>max 7 chases>5(FIVE)% more damage>loses 13% chance to chase per success, so more often only 5~ chases>regular team will probably only get 3-4 chases on solo targets, need to build team around it for the max of 7>can pretty much only fully chase 1 AoEVS the chad shogun>infinite chases>no dropoff %>regular team can get 5~ chases solo target, built around can reach 20+ chases (30+ if you REALLY build into it)>fully chase as many AoEs as you wantI think its fair to call them notably worse, the TP and 5% damage doesnt make up for how much lower versatility they have
>>539580487Warrior's Might is better obviously, I just wanted to point out that the damage modifier isn't worse at least, it's just the silly chase reduction. WM does also reduce defense making it riskier but it's still better. For both cases, a swashbuckling shogun/bucc will always be the best chase feeder.
>>539543335It's a bit short for its own good. Don't get me wrong, I love 4, but there's not the same depth with the 4 classes that you can do and the dungeons aren't as much of a crawl as the other games. It still has my favourite sniper and medic
>>539585201I disagree on classes, I thought 4 had some very fun classes with good tree designs and interesting skills. Adding new "state" slots for things like Mystic circles and Bushi's blood surge was a positive addition to the series. They nerfed subclassing from 3 but even then, the amount of main/sub combo variety makes the party building really good. It does have shorter main labyrinths, that is true due to the smaller caves. I didn't really dislike this approach though and the game still has a lot of content imo.
zodi bump
>>539585201>but there's not the same ((depth)) with the 4 classesI dont know if I disagree with this or not4s my least favourite etrian but the classes are really fun, thinking about it most of them are pretty 1 track though so I guess you could say they arent very deep
Buccaneer is the best designed class
>>539601083I've never actually used buccs in my party so I can't comment on their gameplay design but all 5 of their portrait designs are great.
{°д°}
Farmer really is the goat. Strange seeds doing exactly what I needed so I can get the swaggiest outfit for zodiac in the game!
Tired etriams
>>539619021The sleepy tired or the other kind?
Took a 5 years break from EO4 cuz the 3ds died. Finally recovered the savefiles and was planning on resuming my playthrough but I do not remember what the fuck I was doing. I remembered in Land 3 and in frozen cave but I do not know what to do nextAnyone knows where I should go?
>>539619279Both, probably
>>539601083So what you're saying is that the buccs are not broken?
I've been putting a lot of points into my sovereign's passive healing skills. Is this a shitter move?
>>539629615No, they're good. You'll need protect order for more serious healing though.
>>539495634You just got trolled out of 100% completion by playing on classic, by the way. The story dungeon has chests, monsters and items that count towards your completion and you can't access it in classic mode. "muh wrong impression" autists can get fucked.
Kaishaku.
>>539638925Stop trying to kill the thread!
>>539640530The thread needs to stop trying to use max power Heavenly Aid then
I deserve a buccaneer wife.
>>539650082you dont even own a ship
>>539643586We have no choice but to put everything on the line to get to the next stage
is there a cowboy/gunslinger class or portait?
>>539660579you can summon cows with the wildling hope that helps
>>539624673Have you met this guy yet? If not, ya need to find him
>>539629615You probably don't need more than about 5 points in the last of the three in that line, and just enough to unlock the next skill for the ones before it.
this is why eo wont succeed in current year
>>539673385either a hater or single digit IQ
>>539673385I wish more games let you draw your mapI always thought it would be a cool feature in a metroidvania, Silksong should have had self drawn maps
>>539676180There are so many games I drop because of their shitty maps after playing Etrian Odyssey for the first time.Skyrim comes to mind, that game allow you to put just 1 pin on the map, literally 1. What the fuck?
>>539673385Never played EO on pc, does drawing maps with the mouse feel good? I'm playing the phone currently and I really miss the stylus.
>>539676180it would help if there was a way to draw large maps that didn't suck assI tried mapping out dungeon encounters by myself but gave up 7 floors in. Who thought 100 floors with 100x100 of empty space was a good idea?
is there a list of balance changes made in eo1 hd? i was thinking about doing another playthrough now that i know i can carry over nothing but also keep ronin and hexer unlocked, i also read that dark hunter binds are way more useful.
>>539683565Definitely worse than stylus, but keyboard+mouse is workable enough.Logically I've always understood the dev team's concern with mapping controls outside of the ds console line, but it's only after playing a while without it that I truly feel I *get* it. Really makes me appreciate now how much they went in making so many EO games on the ds/3ds while they could. Even if they end up never being able to continue, there's already a good number of games made in a short time period, cause they knew they didn't have forever to operate as they pleased.
Butt- I mean bump.
>>539696058i wanna BUMP her BUTT with my PEANUS WEANUS then BUMP her WOMB with my IMPERIAL JUICES
Butt>>539683565It feels pretty good honestly. And being able to swap on the fly between controller and mouse, as if you were emulating the 3/DS games, goes a long way at making the game feel good.Like you use the controller for everything but the mapping. And when you map just use the mouse.
John Atlus here; we will be adding sex and sex 2 to Next Stage.
>>539698065BNUUY CONFIRMED!!?
>>539698065I knew that was what was taking so longImmense respect for adding unique H-animations for every monster/party member combo + the CGs for every party combinations gangbang
Never played Class of Heroes 3. Is the game worth checking out?
>>539708137
gay etriams with HATS ON
>>539714478where is fang's hat and fang?
>>539715496Removed
>>539632836Kill yourself fucking retard. You have never 100%'d the game so never comment on it ever again. Dumbass bitch
>>539715496That's a zodi.
>>539717698on closer inspection you're rightthat doesn't explain where her hat is
>>539719995Also the pink hair and star. A rare hat-less pink zodi, truly one of the finer things in life.
>>539703356I'm giving it a shotI will report back in a few days
>>539696246Imperial x Gunner cross breed class soon
>>539703356>>539726139if nothing else the class options are good for a laughmy party includes a journalist and a tsundere
>>539747245SEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEX
>>539726139I will await for your report. The only dungeon crawlers I've played are Etrian and Persona Q (which are also etrian games), so I don't know if I enjoy other stuff.
>>539747245REMOVE PANTSU
>>539747245woah... leaked next stage cgs...
Favorite damage nuke oriented class?
>>539756903Zodiac
>>539756903Imperial
>>539756903>Favorite damage nuke oriented class?
>>539756903Highlander
>>539756903
cannon dragoon
>>539756903Pugilist. >>539760291Unrelated but it felt very surreal finding the source of thar "I'm a healer, but..." meme.
I've decided to become a billionaire so I can fund Next Stage
>>539769853Put bnuuy in there for me, your friend who has always supported you even before you were rich
>>539769853Add a story mode so that dumbfucks can spread more disinformation
>>539760291Medics are so fun in 4 for all the wrong reasons.
>>539774206Why the wrong reasons?
>>539805120Why not try something more positive like "Medical Miracle" or "Hygieia's Bowl".
>>539806784No.
>>539806829>Already at max stacks
>>539811592Shogun demands more blood. Where it comes from isn't important.
Blindsided by Dreamsmasher!Dreamsmasher used Stone Eye!The adventurers have fallen.:'(
Im 52 todayI hope Next Stage comes out before I die
>>539822375Unc is one foot in the grave :skull: :skull: :skull:Happy birthday you old fart, from one "old"fag to another
>>539812747>senseless genocide Shogun wasn't even in the first game.>>539819027Pretty high up in the BS category. This can also happen in eo2 where there is an enemy that insta kills your entire party. Should have brought a surv I guess.>>539822375Happy birthday anon! Still plenty of years left to lose your hope on.
>>539822375I always knew we were an aging general. Cheers m8
>>539773046What happened with story mode before?
>>539827528Honestly just annoyed that I can be ambushed when it's only 1 enemy and I purposely walked into it. Even worse since I accidentally stepped into it before, ran away so I could heal, then stepped back in fully prepared only to be "blindsided."
>>539835153That's one thing I don't miss about the DS games. Thankfully they changed it so you can only be blindsided by an FOE if they run into your back.
>>539822375happy birthday champI'd put good money on this general skewing older overall
>>539830896And it's going to happen to you as well.
Would it kill them would it kill them woIl just say some news? Why not just eay its ded why leave me hanging. What does atlus get out of this why wod they di thus fucking nighwrs pieces of shit i just want to olay a new etriam why wont they ley me do that, or atleast get ris of the false hope they placed in me all those years agoIts clearly over there is no next stage and idont know why they keep up the pretense that there is but its rrally just too much i eont get is i5 like some palestine child sacriticr shit where they want me to hate them? Is it some ritual shit why are thry doing this i just wish theyd stop it and stop leading me on they even made those dhiyty remasters just to give me a read crumb to decive me 'ooh maybe this time ooh maybe next stage is coning after all!!' But no
>>539845884Are you having a stroke anon?
>>539846167Withdrwla
>>539845884rip anon
>>539822375Happy birthday, Anon.
>>539836707Definitely an improvement
>>539822375Happy birthday bro! t. 44
SOUL LIBERATOR
>>539880378how is fang so small?
>>539883187Defender-san kept using her as an armrest and squished her down
>>539883187she gave hexer-chan some of her years so she could feel older and she got younger as a result
>>539883187She's running the Press program so she can fit though tight spaces
>>539883187It's an optical illusion.
ACCEL DRIVE
>>539899519meh, the elemental drives when hitting a weakness do 670*1.5*1.15=1156%, cost less tp, can be buffed by arms and have less cd so they dont have accels awkward rotation issue.
>>539902350>*1.15Where are you getting this from?
>>539902658Elem ATK Up +15%
>>539903043That also applies to Almighty (and by extension Accel) iirc
>>539903176It does not. Almighty damage is notoriously hard to boost.
>>539892096etrian could use some truly awful dungeon gimmicks like thisthe second stratum in 3 should have made everyone required to equip a scuba tank accessory to enter the stratum
>>539904364Must have been some other EO I was thinking of where that was the case. Accel is still better anyway
>>539907798Nta but you're thinking of 4.
Most fun party in V?
>>539907798>Accel is still better anywaymmnaaah. in what way? ele drives hit harder than accel because weakness and arms are multiplicative. all the (super)bosses have an elemental weakness. and you get back like 7tp so they end up costing barely more than your basic assault drive. the only advantage of accel is that it costs less sp. in 4 some skills specifically mentioned affecting "untyped" but thats no longer the case.
>>539917754The Arms are actually multiplicative and don't suffer from diminishing returns?
Starting to think of new parties for another 4 run. I could replay it but I'm still holding off because there's that chance of a 4hd happening.
>>539918839there are no diminishing returns in nexus, but nearly all buffs stack adjectively. multiplicative buffs are stronger than stacking adjective buffs. only arms, final decree, upper stance and foul mastery (+charges and some force skills) are multiplicative if i remember correctly.>>539914496what do you consider fun anon?
>>539914496Necromancer
>>539601083Agreed, now to put wildling subclass and spam eagle eye + primal drums and watch my arbalist nuke everything.
>>539923515By adjective do you mean additively?
>>539928587eh yes
hehehe
>>539040554>but did play the second one and liked that a lotNTA, but I really liked the game too until I got filtered by pic related.At that point I realized I need to level up my party to 30 and class change further for easier time. But monsters give so little exp I got burned out.
Hexer ronin.
>>539936668Woops I meant hexer>ronin.
>>539936658Is that the nigga that repels phys in SMT?
>>539914496
>>539914496Necrololi and the brouni girls are mandatory in all V parties.
Coming from a game reviewer, I'm very skeptical about that Bottom Line but at the same time it also made me smile due to the implication that "it's even better than EO" is the highest praise you can give an RPG. I'll check out the demo at the very least.
>>539965064>engaging way to learn JapaneseYamero...
Just fought abyssal god for the first time after beating the last of the 3 dragons. Instant death :(I think this one is going to take a little bit of research before I try again.
>>539978047I hope you have a zodiac or hoplite
>>539949445Adorbs
>>539980575I do! And a farmer!
Also I can't believe using Formaldehyde is not like a priority action? First time using it in the game thinking I might as well get the conditional from Anemone while I'm here and my Zodiac kills before the item comes out. I thought these were rare at the beginning of the game so I kept saving them and now I have tons that will never be used.
>>539983665you know who your fastest party member is just have that one throw it
>>539965064>80 bucks for the extremely niche crossover of a DRPG and a Japanese language learnerDo these people just hate money or are they really that out of touch?>>539983665It's just a use item action, why would it have priority? You can always give it priority using skills like act first.
Anyone know what the 2 entries between miasma bud and pandora egg are in eo3's monster codex? The lists I see online aren't in the same order and I seem to have everything for the 5th and 6th stratum.
Buccaneer>arbalist
Oh, I see. One of the chests I was missing just wasn't on the maps on gamefaqs. The other one I'll cop to just missing, but no wonder I missed the other on B23 if it wasn't on the maps.>>539991064A pair of enemies that are new behind the door with the sign of the Deep Ones on it.
>>539996697Counterpoint: Regal Radiance and Front Mortar.
>>539914496I had two chain fencers, a rover, warlock and I think a botanist, that was pretty fun
>>540002449>chain party>no shamanhuh?
>>540003623One of those etriams that's too scared to run a party without a healer or tank I'd imagine
>>540003623I didnt set out to minmax, a shaman would have probably been stronger but it was fine>>540011590yes
https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/135407789
After 377 hours, I dare say I've seen just about all of EO3 that I can. I'm not getting every fish or completing the compendiums, but after doing all the story, getting all the chests, requests, sea quests, and superbosses, I'm ready to move on. Probably to EO1 and wherever I left off on my first stab at it, likely in the first stratum.
>>540019182So smug
>>540020184EO1 is really fun. If Inmunize wasn't so broken and the level gap mechanic didn't exist it would be a perfect game, in my opinion.
>>540027494>the level gap mechanic?
>>540028987for every level a monster has over you you deal x% less damage and they deal x% more damage to you, so every level up you get becomes really strong and makes the game way easier
>>540030473For the life of me I don't understand why level scaling a thing in rpgs. I have seen modern rpgs do it. It rewards you for being a retard and punishes you for taking up challenges. What's worse most devs probably know it's a retarded mechanic, as it's hidden most of the time.
>>540031114I'm sure they realized that is garbage as it is only in the first game.
>>540027494But immunize (and troubadour relaxing) was the best thing. I liked the idea of my party being an unstoppable, unrelenting killing machine.None of the other entries let you have this form of sustain, its all hyperoffence and lockdown.
>>540031114To serve as an easy out for people who are bad at a generally easy game genre
I need a medica wife ASAP
>>540020184>After 377 hours, I dare say I've seen just about all of EO3 that I canThis except I'm at 30 hours. I'm kinda bored.
SEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEX
I think zodiac is a better damge dealer than arbalist
>>540052949Proof it
>>540059337Zodiac has a cute hatthis seems like more than enough proof to me
What's the best INT class?
>>539997841Wow, I had no idea about that, thanks!>>540020184377 is wild. I'm at 140 and fairly close to having the same amount done. I probably missed out on a little by never using an arbalist or buccaneer in my party but I'm fine with that too.
>>539997841Now that I see them, the sprites are really similar (if not the same) so I had just assumed they were the enemies I had already encountered
WAR REVIVE
>>540082316>>540081782You're welcome. They sure do seem similar, though I think the sprites are a bit different.
>level 14>floor 5>forgot to say this is u1 classic expert>get ambushed by bull>2 of 3 front row dies>shut off 3ds
>>540081782I have a tendency to play games slowly. Usually, whatever the expected length is, I'll average about double that. It's just kinda always been the case.Arbalist is a lot of fun once you get rolling and aren't running out of TP all the time. It's also a bit spooky to run in the front row, but the damage just can't be denied. The number of boss fights where on about turn three, half (or all) the boss' HP just gets deleted...it's good stuff.
>>540096272Love that feeling. I only found out about charge-meteor after I finished my first run through but it is a powerful feeling
>>539683565Tablets exist, anon.
>>539925976>enabling his bigdicked frens to do all the dirty workwhat a lazy slut
>>540096272>I have a tendency to play games slowly. Usually, whatever the expected length is, I'll average about double that.I don't go quite that long but I'm the same and I've always wondered why because my pace feels normal to me. Is it normal for other people to try to play like it's a race or what?
>>540096272I play games slowly in terms of real world time>t. someone who hasn't touched his V save on the final floor of the 3rd Stratum in ~9 months
>>540107515I couldn't say. I've seen many people finish RPGs and get 100% completion in them within the 60 or so hours that it considered average, but I'm not sure I'd say they seemed rushed. I just...take longer, I guess.
none of these look realistic to me
>>540080548Warlock because Clever Strike is the best
>>540111189I've never really liked that site because the definitions for the categories are often completely subjective, but at least you can go and read some of the comments to get clarification on individual entries.That said, these times are still pretty egregious, 193 hours with the cookiest of cutter parties? Few bosses would take more than one try lmao
>>540125662>master1200Shameful lack of dedication to your Princess
>>540133713girls are cuter and smugger when they're small
imperial/heroprotector/heropugilist/nightstalkergunner/survivalistmedic/sovereignsovereign/protectorhero/roninfarmer/gunnerzodiac/arcanistnightseeker/ninjaronin/landsknechtshogun/protectorwar magus/zodiacsurvivalist/gunnerhighlander/harbingerarcanist/medicharbinger/ninjalandsknecht/roninninja/harbinger
>>540134027That so?
>>540135568low quality princess
>>540137004We can go lower
>>540111189I never pay attention or care about these. Game completion time is something that's really more dependent on the individual player and is silly to try and measure. I tend to play games slowly because I spend a lot of time experimenting with things, exploring, being in menus, and so on. I feel like some people have this play-style of just rushing through games as fast they can just to check it off the list. It's fine if they actually enjoy the game like that but sometimes I wonder. In games like EO, you can spend tons of time just party building by sitting in menus, equipping members, thinking about how you're distributing the SP from the level up you just got, managing inventory, and whatnot. Like Dolls Nest released earlier this year and I got about 60 hours into it. The average person probably will get around 20-30 or so but if you really explore thoroughly and spend time customizing your mecha musume with different load-outs, you can easily get up to 40-60. I was never stuck and the game isn't that hard, I was just simply enjoying the customization and exploring a lot. It can probably be speed ran in like 5 hours but again, I have no idea who just innately plays a game like that for their first time.In conclusion, henceforth, to sum it up: just relax and play games at your own pace.
>>540139347>dolls nesti checked the thread during a loading screen in this how did you know are you watching me
>>540139861Yes, now go back and buy something from Yoyo.
>>540139861Etriams inherently know that most other etriams must have good enough taste to enjoy things like Nitroplus
SOUL TRANSFER
>>540141254I don't really care about Nitroplus specifically, I just played it because it's Armored Core fused with Demons Souls and mecha musume. Also because it actually had a chest slider and let me make a cute loli nymph.
HEAVENLY AID
extra ded today
>>540157665I have no idea what Atlus was thinking when they gave Pugilist Heavenly Aid, Overexertion, and Thunder Fist in the same kit but I'm glad they did. Very EO3-esque.>>540162493Maybe we'll be a little more un-ded when TGS starts.
>>540095886>wake up next morning and start adventuring again>able to take wolves, manti and rockbears no problem>still mad a single random encounter can wipe me outalso does anyone have the speed chart for eo1u? i cant remember if accessories are detriments or not
>>540162708>how do we make herbalist useful?>i know just the thing..
High quality, ultra 4K HD dancer pussy in tomorrow's State of Play when they announce 4hd.
>>540169431when is the actual sega TGS showing
Imperial's best friend, _____
>>540170564bnuuy
Hehehehehe, survivalist smells bad.
In 10 minutes starts the RGG Summit 2025 hosted by SEGA and there is a not-0% chance they will show Etrian (lol)
>>540192337link to a stream or is there not one
>>540192337Why would anything but RGG show up at their RGG event
>>540192337Now announcing.... Etrian Odyssey Yakuza Edition!
>>540137129ohohohohohoho
>>540193893I've read Etrian Editor and creamed my pants.
>>540176635They don't even share a game together, though I supposed a party with Imperial and either or/both of Masurao and Rover would be fun, though the latter probably meshes better
>20 bad english VA options per sexthese suck so fucking hard they rule i can't wait for them to permanently be associated with the portraits for me
>>540211003>not using the undub
>>540215001the second i heard that absolutely dogshit "party time!" i knew there was no other way to playthey can be weebs in nexus
>>540211003My bnuuys are all fluent japanese speakers. And yours should be too.
My etriams don't have VAs
>>540215496Does your shopkeeper at least have a sexo voice?https://litter.catbox.moe/z7tsjvtwr20f9hjt.webm
Ah... now I see why they call it the cthulhu casino.After a rematch extensively following the strategy page of the wiki I was able to get him down to ~60% in 30 turns with him breaking pattern out of attack form to counter KO most of my party :(A pitiful showing but also kinda fun since it really feels like the odds are so stacked against you.
>>540216164What the fuck is the cthulhu casino
>>540215851I'm still on 3 as my first game but holy shit I wasn't expecting to hear such a sexy sax lick
>>540216450It's looks like he's referring to the fact that Abyssal God's pattern starts randomizing if you let the fight go on too long
>>540216536https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pKcHv4FuFboIt's a great remixhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6_RVwYnNP7w
>>540216787Yeah, I read some strategy posts online before I rematched it and that term stuck in my head. Can't fathom someone trying to beat it without the wiki
Sex time?
>>540217814With bnuuy yes
Prefers tea: Female EO1 Medics, Alchemists, Female Troubadors, Ronins, Hexers, Black War Magus and Female War Magi, Bear Beasts, Sovereign, Loli Bucc, Ninjas, Monks, Female Zodiacs, Shoguns, Nightseekers, Female Snipers, Female and the young male EOIV medic, Runemasters, Dancers, Arcanist, Wolf Bushi and Female Bushis, Highlanders, Fencers, Turban Pug, Harbingers, Masuraos, Generic Therians, All the Celestrians, All the Potatoes, The DLC isekai protagonists, Heros.Prefers coffee: Male and redhead female EO1 Sharks, Protectors, Survivalists, Dark Hunters, Male EO1 Medics, Old man War Magus, Male Gunners and Mascot Gunner, Arbalists, Every bucc except the loli, Gladiators, Wildlings, Male Fortresses, Imperials, Lion Bushi, Normal Earthlians, Female Pugs and the Muscle Wizard, Dragoons, Generic Earthlains.Preference uncertain, could go either way: Brown haired female EO1 shark, Male Troubadours, Glasses gunner, Hoplites, Farmers, Male Zodiacs, Male Snipers, Scruffy EOIV medic, EOIV Sharks, Female Fortresses, Rovers.NA: Tiger and Wolf Beasts, Yggdroids
>>540219072>wildlingsare tribals known for drinking coffee?
>>540219836Yes, actually.
>>540219072fail post
>>540219072The only coffee teach drinks is irish coffee
>>540226681Which etriams would most enjoy Manhattans?
Seeing as there's a calendar, is there a game where there's seasons in the labyrinth? Like, past a certain point, the cheery verdant forest of the first stratum dims as leaves fall?
>>540229778The strata in eo2 basically represent the four seasons
>>540031114It's a necessary evil in any RPG with branching paths, otherwise you immediately outscale the main plot in all the directions you didn't take first and spend the next 12 hours one-shotting pointless trash.
>>540219072Bullshit, we all know lolis prefer chocolate milk or just regular milk
>>540239757They just mix that with their coffee/tea, duh
>>540232827You can do the same thing by adjusting exp so you don't get overleveled that easily. And if someone grinds out what's bad about rewarding them for it by letting them be OP when fighting low level quests. It also doesn't justify shit like having an additional handicap vs enemies above your lvl, that's what stats are for already.
IKUtriams
>>540241708Mediko sureLoli bucc drinks milkPurple zodi drinks chocolate milkFluffmaster drinks hot cocoa with marshmallowsOrange zodi drinks "coffee" because "she's not a kid, yknow?" (she hates coffee and it's just milk with a bit of coffee and 3 spoons of sugar)
>>540249846Dancer drinks semen
>>540249846>she hates coffee and it's just milk with a bit of coffee and 3 spoons of sugarShe should try it with brown sugar and maybe a tiny bit of vanilla and/or cinnamon
Have any of you played Shujinkou?What are your take on the game etriambros?I can't fucking pirate it since for some reason no one has ever even uploaded a raw of the latest version so I may actually buy it if the game's good.Thank god the game has regional pricing. There's no way I'm spending 60 dollars on a game ever, not with my third world currency.
>>540232827By level scaling I meant >if x levels above enemy, do/take cx% more damage
>>540251430Speaking of regional pricing.Love Atlus, love SMT, love Etriam.I'm never buying a single game because those old fucks at Sega are a bunch of jews that suck denuvo's cock and hate the concept of regional pricing.
>>539703356>>539726139Didnt get a chance to play as much as I hoped, but a brief reportIf you're unfamiliar, its very much wizardry with an anime coat of paint and a few extra bells and whistles. Better quality of life than 1 or 2, though still very old school and not all in good ways (good luck knowing what some of the skills actually do without looking up old japanese forums)You get to pick one of three schools at the start, which influences your available classes, the NPCs (which I doubt will be a major factor but it does give some flavour which is nice) as well as slight differences in the character portrait options (different uniforms/colours).Speaking of the character portraits, they're better and worse than CoH2. Each race gets 2 male and 2 female portraits, which you can change the hairstyle and hair colour for. They're not bad and its nice you can fine tune them a little, but they're also pretty generic (its usually sword/bow version and staff version). CoH2 had less customisation, but also a specific portrait for each (or at least most) race and class portraits, so you're missing out on stuff like idol elves and puppeteers visually.An extra shame because some of the classes (tsundere, little brother/sister, journalist, hero/heroine, etc) would probably have had neat onesOne thing which is gimmicky but soulful is you can create a character interaction chart in game (your knight likes the thief, but dislikes the pyromancer!) which is very characterful and also has mechanical benefits, giving them extra skills and stat bonuses/penalties depending on the exact combinations (having two girls like each other gets you a specific bonus compared to guy/girl etc)I think there is also potentially quick time events during battles to proc extra attacks, but they havent come up for me yet
>>540256634>You get to pick one of three schools at the start, which influences your available classes, the NPCs (which I doubt will be a major factor but it does give some flavour which is nice) as well as slight differences in the character portrait options (different uniforms/colours).also forgot to add, I have heard that it effects your difficulty but more in the sense that some schools have a softer start than others; I havent gotten deep enough with any of them to say if thats true or not
>>540256634>>540256778Thanks for the review, anon. Don't like not knowing what my skills actually do, but with everything you said I think I'll give it a try anyway. Think I may get the physical copy of this to play it on the go
>>540246392As someone who plays rpgs slowly and tends to fight a lot, leading to being relatively high-level, I hate when the game gives me an additional handicap against lower-level foes.Pissed me off in SMTV's base game for example when I realized I'd have to sandbag and manage my level cause the game would just push things even more in your favor for being a few levels above a boss. Mindless grinding SHOULDN'T be as viable a solution as it is in an rpg, and the extra stats/skills is the only reward necessary for leveling up. Level itself shouldn't be an extra damage modifier.
>>540258812If you like old fashioned dungeon crawlers (again, wizardry or the like) you'll probably be okI suspect it'll be grindy though, I'm not far in but you definitely feel the threat bump when going to a new map. Maybe it'll even out once I have more skills and spells though
Medi-pee, the true preferred drink of all etriams. What do you think those amritas and nectars are made from?
>>540263515What is it with vore games and attracting pissfags?
>>540266945It's a joke anon. Also EO is not a "vore game".
>>540267568>Nooooo it was just a joke! >I dont LIKE thinking about medikos pee!>Please nooo don't vore me please!!!
>>540268617>fang getting bitten into by the flowers fangskind of ironic isn't it
>>540256634Do the clases feel at least somewhat unique?
etriam but PSG
>>540268617I don't like thinking about mediko's pee, I LOVE thinking about it. But still, not a vore game.
>>540266945I'm into piss and diapers but I hate vore. I don't know what you're talking about
I'm starting to think this place needs to die.
>Favourite class got in
>>540281786There were a lot of cool variants but Medicham. Aggron, and Ninetails in particular carried me so hard.
i used to be an etriam odyssey like you, until i took a next stage to the knee
>>540309563did you retrieve it from your knee? was it intact and still playable? tell us more about it.
Etriam but if you die in real life you die in game
>>540272831so sonot nearly as much as an etriam would, but some do have some tricks or adjusted spell lists to make them stick outseveral of the lower tier skills/spells are generic and appear over several classes, which isnt bad as it means you dont need one specific class to do things like cast light or float, most casters can do thatbut at higher levels they start to get more single (or limited) class stuff, though a lot of it boils down to "hit harder"there are also a few with kits that no one else gets, like the alchemist being able to do alchemy in the field (which isnt mandatory but I can see the appeal) and some of the random buff/debuff options seem unique, though I dont know how good they are
>>540311640the reverse of thisetriam will be our isekai, choose your class well
>>540313013if etriam were an isekai id wait on the 3rd floor raping female adventurers until the bar put out a quest worth 4000 exp to kill me
If I were in etriam id just go super and power farm so that waybid be level 80 by the third stratum.
If I were in etriam I'd go to the Therian snu-snu village and power level or die there.
If I were in etriam Id probably just stay in town and marry a bar patron
if i were in etriam i would probably be a medic or doctor or other support classone of you can take the hits ill just sit in the back looking pretty or hucking debuffs
If I were in etriam I'd sell maps of the first stratum to rubes
Etriam: If
Zeta Etriam: U149
>>540328425i wish that were me...
I guess any etriam game can be an isekai if you imagine hard enough
i imagined my hard penis in your butt i guess your not a virgin anymore hehe i astral raped you
>>540331229Don't even need to imagine very hard with some of the DLC portraits in V and Nexus
>>540331229That's what my rp is for my current nexus run.
What's your process for drawing maps? I like to only mark all the corners the first time I get somewhere then later finish drawing the walls as a revisit that place.
In Nexus I'm stuck on the boss of the Northern Shrine. I can't even get him down to 2/3rds of his HP. My party is level 82, Harbinger, War Magus, Arcanist, Nightseeker, and Zodiac. I have one of each class, but the rest are levels 52-61.
https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/135499899
>>540323429You could falsely mark some treasure in some deadly dead end and loot your customers corpses too! Just gotta be subtle...
>>540337987id ditch WM and/or arcanist and put in hero, another offensive class or sov.if you built your harb for reap, their dmg just isnt that great, if you didnt, this party looks too defensive. and NS can have trouble with ailments this fight, so the only consistent dps you have is the zodiac.
https://exhentai.org/g/3552100/411b10851a/If Dungeon Meshi counts as etriam adjacent, then have a H doujin of an excessively meaty Marcille
>>540328873Who in particular?>>540342630I love that Monk.
OHOHOHOHOHOHOHOHO
>>539923515>what do you consider fun anon?Parties that aim to get the most out of a damage dealer that does one singular big hit. Imperial is my favorite sort of class, as an example.
>>540342630What a perverted Zodiac
>>540373327impact pug with a herbalist, or buster cannon dragoon.
Whoa there
etriam but Zannen Jokanbu Black General-san
etriam but with dinosaurs
>>540400057>dinogator>raptor>dinolich???
>>540335579I usually draw the floor under me as I walk, then fill in the walls behind whenever I get to a branch/door/dead end/point of interest
Is Persona Q worth playing if I like Etrian but have never touched a Persona game?
>>540403830i dontnt knoww i dond knoww im sorry im sorryw please dont hit me agin pleaee im sorry i just doent knoww pwease...
>>540402194Not enough
>>540392983oh fuck i looked at my calendar and the next english volume is out next week
>>540403830Didn't play much of Q, but most of the charm of the game is supposed to be the fanservice. Besides I enjoyed it more than most dungeon crawlers out there but I ended up dropping it for how annoying keeping the massive roster evenly leveled gets eventually, if you do play I recommend sticking to only leveling a few characters.If you never played a smt game strange journey is a better starting point for dungeon crawler + smt than the Q games.
>>540403830You'll probably like it more than a Persona fan would since the characters are all parodies of themselves.
>>540404019I'm frequently saying this.
>>540403830I had a lot of fun with it as someone coming from the Persona side, but know there's a lot more characters and story going on than a normal EO game. Skills, too, work differently and more on the Persona side of things from what I recall.I should go back and replay Q or Q2 sometime now that I have more EO experience.
Etriam x solicito at the olympics
>>540403830PQ2 is actually a pretty solid dungeon crawler.
>defeat Shin in EO3 with a juiced up Gladiator/Arbalist>learn afterward her conditional is used in crafting the best crossbow in the game>do a little 5th stratum farming and get the formaldehyde and coupon ready>she hasn't respawned after 14 daysReally? I'm locked out of the best bow in the game for the rest of this run? In contradiction to the observable pattern of boss respawning seen in the series so far?
>>540433069Uh, keep resting? All the stratum bosses respawn expect for the final boss of the fifth stratum.
>>540433326I've definitely rested well over 14 days. I even went back and did another 8 or so. Does her location change? Or maybe I need to progress the story more before she's available again? I'm only at the beginning of 5th stratum atm.
>>540433069You have to make it to the final floor of the 5th stratum or beat the 5th stratum boss first before the boss respawns.
>>540433689Damn it. I wish I'd known that beforehand. But at least I might be able to get it before the final boss? After works too...Anyway thanks anons.
Insert clever joke here
>wanted to take a screenshot of something i did ingame>take screenshot>realize i have to take my 3ds apart to get to the sd card>do it>realize i dont have the attachment thing for microsd to usb>use phone to take screenshot>can see my fingers>take another phone screenshot>can see my balls>gave upthis was like 2 months ago
>>540444615draw a picture of it from memory
Tangen Battou is actually crazy. Wasn't holding out hope since my best Warrior Might setup only did around half of Abyssal God's hp, but level 54 glad/ninja makes that boss look like a chump.
>>540443792good one
Also reading the wiki since I can't be assed to collect all the weapon tomes, I will interpret this to imply that Tarzan is canon to EO3
>>540457505Dark Hunter and Shota Hunter
>>540457803Which is which?
>>540457850The older female is the shota hunter...
>>540457850Yes.
>>540455518It can be pretty strong, yeah
>>540434178Yeah the boss respawn mechanic is either "wait 14 days after killing the boss" and "wait 14 days AND reach/kill the next stratum boss" depending on the game so it's easy to get confused.
Dang, the first couple of floors in EO1 have hands.
Fang's holiday slowly draws closer each day.
>>540497434why is that fangs holiday? what other etriams have holidays?
>>540497992It just is. Gun-ko's is Christmas.
>>540497992Because she is the most witch like etriam
While Runie is traditionally a Christmas etriam, she can also strangely function well as a Halloween etriam.
>>540499769Fluff can do everything
>>540500321truly, everything...
>>540499769Also as a mariachi
>>540500890except escaping my grasp
>>540501218Let's just say I'd eat her tacos.
Who is the easter etriam?
>>540502712
gunko sex
>>540520991those weapons look stupid
>>540525329YOU look stupid
>>540520991Those are some cool looking weapons
>>540520991I'm somewhat indifferent to those weapons
>>540520991those weapons remind me of dark souls 2
>>540520991a weapon to surpass metal gear
>>540500321can she reach the top shelf?
I have to confess.I think most of the class art in EO4 sucks.
>>540542652I think you suck.
>>540542652I think EO4 sucks in general
>>5405446154 is awesome though.
>>540544968I hate that overworld it has. Every time I play it I just come up with challenges and new ways to do the first stratum. Once I have to advance in the overworld I just drop it
>>540542853Yeah, I'm sure you're picking this guy.Real peak design work.
>>540552196I would never be caught using males in my Etrian parties, of course I'm not using that guy. I will however use this perfection. There's plenty of great designs for the girls and that's all I care about.
>>540552609>PlentyTry one per class, which is the entire problem.
Is labyrinth of yomi any fun?
>>540542652What are the portraits in 4 that you consider good?
>>540542652There are some cute girl portraits and a few cool guy portraits but it's such a downgrade from 3. To make things worse for 4, it was followed up by 5 which had a lot of excellent options for every class.Even some of the NPCs in IV look stinky. Baldur's the only time I've ever seen an NPC in this series that looked "off". I think it has something to do with his face.
>>540544615I dont think it sucks but it is my least favourite EO (aside from n*xus that one does suck)
>>5405601974 had a portrait that I liked for pretty much every class while 5 did not. Terrible variety in 5 with very few loli options. I think I actually want an hd version of 5 the most for the chance of them adding loli portraits to certain classes to make them usable for me. I love both 3 and 4s classes, it definitely wasn't a downgrade.
>>540562894Nexus became one of my favourites after using an intentionally "bad" team and subsequently a balance mod. Shrines are less of a boring grind when you're not just facerolling with a Hero waiting for the credits to roll.
sorry bwos... i need content, i'll be playing wizardry daphne again after uninstalling it 2 months ago... anniv close should bring on the freebies, and i saw a dancer outfit for catgirl that it's too much temptation to pass. ill be rerolling for it perhaps
>>540564238Which balance mod?Also does it get rid of the shitty NPC quests?
Holy fuck, the 5th stratum invisible mapping thing has to be the most annoying gimmick in the series.
>>540567645are you complaining about EO3 postgame when it's the best one
>>5405679715th stratum, anon. It's just a kinda dumb gimmick, I don't see what it adds.
>>540568131it adds needing to be aware of your environment and being methodical
>>540568303Mmmm, no
>>540568484sure it does, otherwise you wouldn't be complaining about no longer being able to autopilot
>>540568572I would also complain if every tile on a floor was a damage tile, even though plausibly that could be defended by midwits. You should be able to see your position at all times in a mapping game.
>>540497108feels like most games the first couple floors are some of the roughest; not hardest overall, but most likely to sucker punch you
>>540568662>You should be able to see your position at all times in a mapping game.draw your fucking map, casual
>>540569723>getting this uppity because I criticized one of the dumb design decisions in an easy poopoo baby game like Etrian Odyssey
>>540569884why are you playing something you conaider an easy poopoo baby game
>>540569884if it's so easy you should be able to use your map to tell where you are
>>540569985It's relaxing
>>540559684The LandysThe RunemastersThe Imperials aside from, ironically, Protector-faceThe Bushi, kind of sort of???A lot of the other classes feel like they only have one or two versatile options or the whole class is full of hyper specific portraits. Arcanist is the outlier where the portraits are mostly just color preference, which is the exact opposite problem.Good example is Nightseeker. You've got not!Alucard, who's got a solid design, but the portrait itself is bad. His hair looks kinda ass, his legs are weirdly stick-like and his pose is stiff. And he's the best of the four.
>>540569884We're past the bump limit, you don't need to fish for replies
>>540573460I want to fish for a new thread
>>540570750>his legs are weirdly stick-likestick game
>>540538129The shelves in her own room, sure, just fine
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