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#6578 - Really Bad Edition

Previous: >>538891341

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>Decklists
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>Upcoming Releases
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●THE CHRONICLES DECK - The Fallen and The Virtuous (Oct 25)
●Terminal World 3 (Nov 22)

TCG:
●Doom of Dimensions (Sep 25)
●THE CHRONICLES DECK - The Fallen and The Virtuous (Oct 24)
●Legendary 5Ds Deck (Nov 7)
●Phantom Revengers (Dec 4)
●Burst Protocol (Jan 23)

>Events
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I'd like to thank Dorklords for giving my Deck the chance to search Droplet and get LP recovery for almost free
Thank you, useful idiots. Stay jobbing
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>constellarknight
>xsaber
>worm
>yang zing
do you like it dng?
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>>539000428
>yang zing
hiw do you know? if true, I'll be happy
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there, there
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>>538999970
Oh god no, I don't like it, why oh why did this second wave have to be so irredeemable?

Completely unforgivable. This archetype has more high rarity cards overall than Mitsurugi too.
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>>539000428
>>constellarknight
Fuck yeah
>worms
Not my thing but sure, they're cool
>the rest
Ehhh
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>>539001061
unban scarecrow NOW!
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Almost 20 banned Link Monsters in the TCG.
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>>538999986
The female dragon is some incomplete entity that sees Aluber and Albaz as the same person.
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>>539001064
Shuraig channeling The Matrix energy I see
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How was reveal season for September?
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>>539000428
>Flamvell/Laval cucked from getting any Year of FIRE straggler support
>Gusto getting cucked from Year of WIND
lol, I guess I like Yang Zings and Worms so cool, I'm fine with X-Sabers even if I think it'll be a gay ass deck that handrips 5 and makes Naturia Beast
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>>539001554
Genuinely shit besides Darklords and the Fusion Deployment alt art.
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>>539001674
Despia Darklords seems likely to occur.
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>>539001554
Somehow blander than DOOD/10
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>>539000428
We so back!
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>>539001439
Goblin, Simorgh*, Meowmeowmu, the superheavy*, Linkross, Auroradon and Moon* could come back
(Simorgh would not cause a signle problem but barrier statue stains ppl's panties for some reason, SHS got an FTK so just ban the burn cardd, and Moon of course cannot co-exist with Requiem so its one or the other, or neither cause FS was dropping in usage and Mitsu is the greater offender)
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>>539001554
wait it's over??
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>>539001878
Yes
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>>539001878
no
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>>539001869
harpie feather storm if simorgh come back so no
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HOLY SHIT I complety missed that link decoder was already banned here
Damn cyberse got it rough here
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>>539001348
>>539001869
>>539002223
Yeah I forgot about Decoder too.
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>>539002405
They could unban all of these cards and nothing would change
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>>539002657
Unban everything but Electrumite
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>>539002657
Linkross defo can't come back
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>>539002764
Yes he can, he's my friend.
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>>539002405
It's so funny seeing innocuous ass cards like Decoder and Moon put in the same jail as war criminal cards like Gumblar and Halq.
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>>539002935
>Zenmaity still banned
Why? lmao
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>>539003154
true clown game
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>>539001868
Do you think we're gonna get a small Level 5 engine to synegize with K9 or we'll just get better Rank 4 stuff?
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Scientist Lee card when?
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>>539003154
They probably forgot about Wind Ups.
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>>539002935
Turn skips and victims of "can't ban current product".
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>>539002935
Invoker, tomahawk, zenmaity, broadbull, bamahut and dweller can come back
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>>539002935
The time players regret banning Abyss Dweller will come sooner than you think
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Only 3 banned Tuners now.
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>>539003343
When they start remembering World Legacy was more than just Orcust.
This artist is based btw
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>>539002935
I bet broadbull is next. I think konami wants to free all the zoodiac cards
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>>539003901
Fishborg and mind master can come back
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>>539003552
Abyss Dweller is one-sided garbage.
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>>539002405
>Halq
Let it rot unless they give the Synchro lock errata
>Electrumite
Jerome.jpg
>Goblin and Mermaid
No reason to keep them banned
>Meow Meow Mu
Same as above but keep it banned because Prank players are niggers
>Verte
Controversial
>Bird of Sovereignity
Same thing I've been saying ever since it got banned
>SHS Scarecrow
Should have been unbanned the same moment they banned Apollousa
>Elf
Controversial, but unban it
>Moon
Tewart's Clown Game, but idgaf honestly
>Decoder and Splash Mage
Idgaf
>Gryphon
Ehhh. Someday there will be a Trap Deck that could use it enough to make me care
Keep the rest banned
>>539003901
I have been asking ever since 2022 what can you make with Fishborg and Mind Master that is so broken to keep them banned. Still no well thought replies
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What does r.b. even stand for?
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>>538999970
●Doom of Dimensions (Sep 25)
●THE CHRONICLES DECK - The Fallen and The Virtuous (Oct 24)
●Legendary 5Ds Deck (Nov 7)
●Phantom Revengers (Dec 4)
●Burst Protocol (Jan 23)
Sweet, my money is safe october-january
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>>539003339
buy
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>>539005765
>●Burst Protocol (Jan 23)
Fuck's sake, Darklord Gulgatia can't arrive soon enough
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>>539005756
raw booty
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>>539002935
>Kashtira
>The most annoying floodgate ever

>Dragon card
>GY dumper

>Invoker
>Special summon minster from deck

>Shock master
>turn skip

>air plane
>token aids

>Warrior Guy
>Turn skip

>Kashtira: the original
>ftk and piss on deck building

>Dragon thing
>Dumpy

>Turn skip the card (again) (again)
>Turn skip (again)

>Turn skip omega
>Turn skip omega

>Very fun dragon
>Turn skip

>Battle ships
>special summon archetype
>bounce a card
>idk why this in here

>Broadbull
>search beast warrior card

>shark
>summon water frog negate and maybe another card

>Abyss Dweller
>Grave effects for me. No grave effects for you. Tearlament staple BTW.

>King
>Ritual engine of all things

>Turn skip (again) and roll that dice!
>Win the dice roll, get the turn skip.
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Is Super Poly good against Yummy? 2 Yummys makes Garura and Herlad+Yummy makes Mudragon.
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>>539006387
Yeah.
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>>539005765
>●THE CHRONICLES DECK - The Fallen and The Virtuous (Oct 24)
This comes out the same day as BPRO in the OCG. I wonder if Branded will become meta relevant again.
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gib lavalval back pls
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>>539005756
ro bot
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hosting eu casual
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>>539006387
garura? you make MASTER OF HAM
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>>539006585
I'd rather they get a modern support wave.
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>>539006106
>and piss on deck building
why number 89 piss on deck building?
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>>539002935
I didn't even realize that Links finally outnumbered XYZs in the number of banned cards till now.
>>539005756
Revol Bots
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>>539006935
Cause it banishes it face-down.
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>>539002935
Ariseheart could come back
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>it reached glory and its already punished for it
was it worth it bros?
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>>539007404
Play the game physically first.
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>>539007404
.....is something nobody with a functoning brain would say
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>>539007404
...its the last thing the corpse said
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>>539007553
Blame the old cards for being in print for a long time.
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konami killing vsk9 so fast must surely mean they won't mess with turn 0 shit for a long time, right? r-right?
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>>539007553
vs was completly forgotten then a dog cop saved them
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>>539007357
ok thanks (89 is one of my favorite card)
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>>539008194
and a mary sue cac support
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>>539008194
And they got crippled for it lol
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Most popular game original lore.
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Maybe I'm just slow but I just realized why most "pros" seethe at the new list - they can't sell their stupid spreadsheets anymore, they are outdated and unusable.
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>>539009532
I don’t think I’ve seen someone as stupid as you genuinely
They’re going to sell MORE sheets because of this
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Not sure if it'll be useful but lunalight having access to a macro cosmos could be neat
>searchable off banshee
>pop any combination of tenyi,masquerade banshee itself or even tiger
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>>539004381
Abyss Dweller stops cringe decks like Lunalight, therefore unban Dweller.
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>>539000187
>>539002898
>>539006941
Can we ban this fag already?
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>>538999970
>>539000936
The artwork looks completely shit too. Why did they even bother making this?
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>>539010319
she is so cool
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>>539000428

Yang zing should have a synchro that says materials used for this card's summon are treated as being destroyed.
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>>539000428
>xsaber
Where did you see xsabers?
I still need to pick up some of their old cards for nostalgia reasons. Hope they didn't spike...
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>>539012024

Or a tuner that says quick effect: destroy any number of yang zings you control to summon a synchro from the extra with a level equal to the monsters destroyed, this is treated as a synchro summon using those monsters as materials.

Worded in a way that doesnt make them miss timing.
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Why do trannies want these cards back so badly?
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No one wants left back. Right at this point would do fuck all outside of maybe be ecent for solfachord's new support but even then.
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>>539000428
>X-Saber
Based
>Worm
Based
>The other 2
Don't care.
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How much slop can i shove to this shit
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>>539013774
I care for the two you don't care
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>>539012557
right does nothing at this point just put it to 3
its just the new meme like stratos
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>>539001439
Like 9 of those don't need banning anymore. Arguably 11.
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>>539012557
>why do trannies want cards related to the decks they play back
Truly a mystery
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>>539003154
To prevent hand rips!
*dark worlds ripping for 4 easily*
*atlanteans ripping 3 easily*
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>>539001439
GOOD
dogshit mechanic and worse than pend but /dng/ is not ready for that talk
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>>539015141
>worse than Pend
People don't dislike Pend because they think it's strong. They dislike Pends because it's the tranny mechanic, it actually makes more sense when you consider people pushing for more Pens support tend to be European aka the only region that keeps spawning troon players.
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question
when are rescue ace and exosisters getting their new support?
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>>539001439
Who is next?
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>>539011774
The artwork is worse then shit.
Its just boring.
At least if it was shit, you could have a good time ripping it for the shitty artwork but its just...like a 12 year olds robot drawings.
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>>539015268
*because they hate reading
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unban linkross
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Your tcg exclusive darklord support.
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>>539015478
No they just hate trannies and trannies like Pend. Simple as.
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>>539015867
She looks like she rubs peanut butter on her coochie to get cunnilingus from Purrely
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>>539015292
It should be this set since they got their indirect one (the FIRE Link that looks like Flametongue and the Spirit monster) in DOOD.
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Mitsurugi Sans.
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>>539015398
Konami really did Solemn Johnson dirty...
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>nib veiler ash blossom imperm
>Heraldic Spheres
All in the bewd structure.
Nevermind the fact bewd itself isn't terrible especially on release.
I keep thinking how much bang for your buck that SD was. Very unkonami-like.
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>>539015867
Darklords have a level 1 now?
>>539016350
I will admit, it was a funny joke. Judgement will come back to 3 soon regardless
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>>539015867
But dark lords have no level 1 so its a two card combo that requires an additional monster on field to do anything?
I'm not feeling it. What are you summoning off kambi alone, tragedy? You don't really need him on the field.
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>>539012058
get them now
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>>539016836
>>539017053
Seen it posted elsewhere. I imagine its to immedately make condemned darklord.
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>>539012058
Buy them now for absorbent prices and then mald when they get a 25 cent reprint when they actually print the new support
I still don't know why people went in on jurrac meteor but they did.
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>>539017252
What is the reasoning behind it though?
Is new support announced or expected?
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>>539017520
>playing a trickstar in darklords
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I wish Lunalight were actual furries, they would look cute as kemono styled girls
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>>539017520
You know, at least they could have added Eva and fetch some Herald handtraps
>Ukoback is level 3
Lol, lmao, kek
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>>539017742
Nightshade and any trickstar link 1 immedately gets you condemned darklord, anon. 2 fairies after all.
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>>539017532
>Buy them now for absorbent prices
Non of the prices seem to have increased as of now... I don't get what you guys are talking about at all.
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>>539018001
Sure, just dunk your deck's aesthetic into the trash can.
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>>539017752
I wish they looked more like the Maliss girls. Fuckable and in acceptable attire where we can all see the outlines of their pussies.
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>>539018040
They've confirmed that sabers are going to get support.
Once that support is revealed, people will know which cards are vital to the new support to buy out.
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>>539001439
nigga jerome still is mindbroken by pends.
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>>539018048
>He says about the deck that includes a card with 2 lesbians going at it harder than even Shiranui.
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>>539018048
>he doesn't like a fallen maiden keeping a couple cheery fairies as hostages
ngmi.
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>>539018740
Is she trying to corrupt them too?
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>>539018462
>Jerome hates trannies
Pretty based ngl
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>>539018836
Of course.
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>>539018836
>try to corrupt idols
>turns out your efforts are less hardcore than their last casting couch
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>>539020216
>the idols are too experienced with this shit and corrupt the dark angels
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>>539020216
>>539020643
Lucifer and Condemned Bitch have nothing on the kikes in the entretainment industry
>you now imagine corrupted Trickstars having a Britney or Miley Cyrus moment in their artworks
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>>539015292
if they're going by the same pattern as with the previous tactical try-decks then they should both get 1 more indirect support card in burst protocol before getting their actual support in the next set
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Ungodly creature.
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>>539018836
blue angels first proper duel in the anime already had her getting mind controlled, they're used to it by now
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>>539021685
Not only does Trickstar have an on theme honest they can also just play honest.
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>>539022084
do honests stack?
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>>539022853
Yes.
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>>539000649
>Yuri = pleasure
What did Konami mean by this
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>>539023785
>tfw the girl you love got possessed but holy shit did that buff her tits
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>>539023785
>>539024281
Branded in white indeed
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Ignore Speeder for a moment.
It's so incredibly boring to play Yusei.deck. It really has no boss monsters of its own. Just generic slop.
I guess you can end of Majestic, but that's about it.
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>>539024675
Konami really wants you to end on 3 Quasars/Blazars/Sifrs but they forgot you need Level Eater for that
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/dng/ LEAGUE ROUND 3

JOIN:
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Here's how this works:
>4 month long tournament, spanning from the 7th of September to the 18th of January (20 rounds), with the Top 4 Finals taking place on the 25th of January
>you can join at any point in time during the duration of the tournament
>a single round will be held each week
>we will be using a very basic leaderboard system, as Challonge doesn't really support something like this too well
>BO3 matches, match wins and byes net you 2 points, match losses net you 1 point and no shows give you nothing
>2 no shows in a row will result in a disqualification
>matchups will be randomized each week, as allowing new players to join all the time messes with any automated round systems
>The randomized matchups will be announced in the thread each Sunday and the matchups can agree on the time and date of the duel during that week
>you are allowed to change decks between rounds
>we will be using the most recent TCG banlist and the PRERELEASE card pool
>300 second turn timers, no reason for a time limit on rounds as it's only 1 round per week
>report scores via DMs

Challonge DMs are down, so I've created a Discord server as a temporary solution to the issue

https://discord.gg/CM8tYGxS3A

The Round 3 matchups will be posted on Monday.
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>>539024675
>It really has no boss monsters of its own
quasar and all variants of it are yusei cards
crimson dragon is a yusei card
and as you mentioned majestic is a yusei card
99% of synchron decks go for these and maybe crystal wing
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>>539024851
You can do X2 of that in Centurion and Blue Eyes, but not Yusei.deck.
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>>538999970
waiting with baited breath for new blackwing cards
I know its in the new 5ds set
pls for the love of god give me a easy way to dump a high lv wb to grave and a blackwing + blackwing cheating into hawkjoe so my deck can finally have a negate as the tcg fucking simorgh is still banned
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>>539024851
quasar inadvertently fucked over yuseis future card design because now limit over accel synchro became his thing
you have to invest a lot of effort to get out 2 synchros and a synchro tuner just for an single omni
meanwhile a deck kike ryzeal can just overlay 2 4's for a detonator and be an infinitely better boss
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>>539024910
>>The randomized matchups will be announced in the thread each Sunday
>The Round 3 matchups will be posted on Monday
so which is it? and why not just do it now?
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>>539027074
New Blackwing level 12 with omni negate.
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>>539027468
I hope its a lv12 boss monster because th actual lv12 synchro is just shit
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Blackwing Field Spell
When this card is activated; Add 1 "Blackwing" monster from your deck to your hand.
Once per turn, if you control "Black-Winged Dragon"; You can add 1 Trap or Spell card from your deck that mentions "Black-Winged Dragon" or "Blackwing".
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>japan hyped the shit out 5ds rerelease on youtube
>konami gives yusei shit support
what happened there?
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>>539028363
To be honest they probably made the Yusei SD cards 1-2 years ago.
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>>539028363
shitsei deserve to have shit cards because
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>>539027787
Shota father.
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>>539028363
5ds is a show they’re not proud of and the current design of the cards push them to be Omni-negate machines Konami doesn’t want to make anymore.
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>>539028550
Maybe worse. Nothing in the SD is as good as the Jack cards from 2 years ago. Most are worse than the DAMA Yusei cards in 2021.
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Hosting on eu casual. Testing the new banlist.
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New Traptrix support soon.
New Blackwing support soon.
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>>539029031
Why would they not be proud of 5Ds?
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>>539029031
>they're not proud of
>GX anniversary year has been spent shilling 5D decks more than anything
>25th anniversary made sure that every Signer got shit including Luna
>GX got mostly ignore while DM and 5Ds got lots of love
lmao?
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Traptrix level 4 monster/hand trap (and extender) that activates Hole trap card from your deck.
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>>539029689
After signers, they legit had nothing. And they were left with nothing to do for the majority of the series till later on.
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>>539030704
There was nothing wrong with Crash Town
WRGP was fun and I'm tired of pretending it wasn't
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Gx anniversary got Yubel and hero wank
5ds anniversary got...yaoi shit?
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Is it really the Son seethes about 5Ds hour again?
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is anyone hosting?
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GGs Soundwave, it's almost like the deck wasn't hit at all (copium).
>>539031660
I am.
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>>539031181
what was the yaoi shit? unless you mean that 5ds in general is yaoi shit?
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>>539032695
the caffee stuff
i really struggling to think what good support 5ds got for their anniversary
Maybe Jack SD? people even made fun of DUNE.
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Locals is doing worlds celebration because Konami said to do it tomorrow. You have to play with worlds banlist which cuts off Battles of Legends because of Europoors mistake. Bringing Memento with the two Izuna I managed to pull.
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>>539033006
>DUNE
lmao
>yusei SD
LMAO
>rose dragons
LMAO
>jack shit
eh, alright
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>>539033490
oh yeah I forgot
>luna support
pfffffffff
>morpthronics
oh no no no no
>TGs
ahahahahaha
it was a really good year for 5ds
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>>539033450
Mine was last week but fell on the same day as grandfather's birthday so didn't end up going. Have k9 crystron only atm.
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Hosting 1 more game
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>>538999970
I know this gets said a lot but this genuinely, unironically looks ai generated
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I think it's safe to say that we'll start to see Dracotail entering the the meta-sphere in a more dominant way going forward. Particularly Branded Dracotail builds.
Yummy is still going to be extremely dominant especially post DOOD.
Mitsurugi and Fiendsmith being unhit but having the cards that bridge into them being removed means that these archetypes are still going to be powerhouses when they do show up.

Malice is probably dead for the most part competitively. Not saying you won't see any but they ain't winning any events, way too inconsistent now. That's including the lower number of Lancea's we'll see too btw, it doesn't make a difference.
VS is a lot weaker and I anticipate them dropping off significantly too, definitely not the best deck of this upcoming format. Far from it.

Last little prediction but the rogue decks we currently have + the ones we expect to see post DOOD will be that much better now since the power level of the game just took a fairly decent sized hit. Yes, JUHU still remains dominant, but I can see some other deck taking tournaments from the JUHU decks every now and then.
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>>539032995
lol
LMAO
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>>539035754
Forgot about a few others.
Memento. This fucking deck is still full power. It's still strong as shit. I rate it high as fuck on the threat meter, I think it's annoying as fuck to go against. The only silver lining that could perhaps see Memento not be so prominent in the meta is it's a hard to deck to learn and play against and because of that this is one of the decks I do think the new time rules could fuck over.
Like even if you know the deck like the back of your hand it is unironically a pain in the ass to play against, the opponent will be eating up a lot of time reading through cards and trying to figure out what to hit. Yes, even after it's won a couple of events and people know about it, don't doubt people's ability to avoid learning this match up at all costs and thus not know how the fuck to play against it or what its cards do. It's the same situation as plants but worse IMO.

Then there's the wild card. Snake-Eyes did just get Ash and Poplar back to 3 (Poplar to 3 is w/e, you'd only run 2 at most still). No Apo though, no Fiendsmith bridge, no OSS and 1 Bonfire but outside of that it could '''''''potentially'''''''' do something. I haven't looked into it in depth so maybe it doesn't do shit but who knows, we'll just have to wait and see.
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>>539029604
>cropped perfectly to get just a hint of sera-slit
oo...oooowoah! I'm going to go deckbuild a Traptrix Purge/Songs/Spiral Dominus deck.
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>>539037156
Gordos
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stuttgart regional 484 player
9 rounds

1st mitsu
2nd yummy
3rd mitsu ryzeal
4th mitsu ryzeal
5th crystron k9
6th vsk9
7th draco k9 kots
8th yummy
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190 players , Saint Peters MO
Top 8:
Vanquish K9
Dracotail K9 KOTS
Orcust K9
Crystron K9
Vanquish K9
Yummy
Vanquish K9
Dracotail Cartesia
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>>539038257
Haba ban when?
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hosting goat eu casual
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>>539029031
5ds is the only era to make a format
thats not playground lets play like retards
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>>539030704
without having 10decks worth of support they they got nothing
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ggs da. Great game 1 but couldn't do much else in the other games, it happens
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>>539027468
if its lv12 I will fucking kill someone
the deck was a lv 7 deck turned into lv 6/8/10 now they give me a fucking 12 to get to
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>>539039270
GGs, yeah the side deck is too powerful in matchups like that. All three games were still fun though
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>>539036880
>No Apo though, no Fiendsmith bridge, no OSS and 1 Bonfire but outside of that it could '''''''potentially'''''''' do something
They still have Azamina, though.
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When could Ariseheart realistically come back?
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>>539039757
When fenrir and unicorn finally pay for their sins.
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>>539028162
theres not many blackwing cards you'd ever wanna add
it be a great card cause it gives you sudri/poison
twin shadow is a little shit as the two pops is a when effect and gotta use a ED space
I like the counter trap but blackwings need more handtrap/going 2nd/bullshit recovery effects
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>>539039757
When K9 gets more hits since they would use it otherwise.
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>>539039757
When trannies are wiped out and there is none to celebrate its return
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>>539028363
he did find the cards in the trash anon
>>539029604
with how they've been making support will the new blackwing be a coomer card
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>>539039650
do not like borra's smile
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>>539040150
>>539040150
they will be soon TM
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ggs da, reflect bounder too stronk for tribe. rehosting eu casual GOAT
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>>539040598
GGs, at least it was game either way. I would have felt bad if I stole the win because of EDO code monkeys.
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>>539001439
free gumblar
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>>539002935
free no 95
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>>539017520
Based fairygod, nightshade as a free link 2 is a CLASSIC fairy play.
>>539018048
Nigger
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hosting eu casual
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ggs, Soundwave
I should read Lunalight sometimes
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>3 Jurrac meteos in 1 turn
God damn, that deck can nuke.
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Galaxy Cup Finals stream
https://www.youtube.com/live/sKfmPlGrSdI
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>>539046103
But /dng/ said girls and kids don't play yugioh...?
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>>539030809
I don't really care about Ragnarok as characters but that didn't stop their duel from being fun to watch, dueling huge and reviving norse gods. It's one of the times when the inherent positives of Yugioh duels in anime form boosted the concept compared to what I first expected from it
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Why would they make Dracotail Sting so bad? It could have had literally any other removal effect and they chose to make it banish a Spell/Trap from the grave. Why do they just design cards to be bad?
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>>539047581
MONEY
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>>539047581
It can banish monsters, it’s an okay card.
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>>539047581
It banishes a monster and/or a spell/trap.
It's a good card for Dracotail.
Dracotail has a problem dealing with GY effects because the only have on-field interruptions.
At worst you can just side deck it for the correct matchup.
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with moon banned, is it still worth it to shove in fiendsmith cards into an orcust deck, or do i give up on the fiendsmith part of the deck and keep playing pure orcust?
(i bought a copy of tract and lacrima and had them shipped literally the day before the banlist)
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>>539048657
maybe add a couple of Sancts to make sure you open the fiendsmith side?
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TELLAR GODS
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>no counter trap searcher
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mmmm locks
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>>539048657
Fiendsmith is still a 1 card pilgrim reaper + a link 2 now that we have Lacrima back
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>this is still the best search target off Caduceus
Please give Constellar another backrow worth searching
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>not anime theme
meh
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>>539049267
well, still missing one card
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There were four tribes of DT2, Gusto, Lavals, Gem Knights, and Gishki. Gishkis and Gem Knights would continue being massive power players, while both Gusto and Lavals got genocided and boy can you fucking tell with their card pools
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Vylon never ever, I guess...
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>>539049357
Good, no one cares about animeshit
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>>539048895
light and dark ED lock is maybe the least restrictive lock of all time lol
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>>539049357
erm
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>>539049357
Well technically...
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>>539049453
Waluigi looking ass
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Why does Sacred Castor not treated as a Tellarknight and why doesn't it summon Tellarknights
Why won't they let you search the Counter Trap
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>>539049431
This but lore anime.
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>>539048794
>>539048865
Nice
>>539049420
Here's hoping for next year?
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>>539049410
>Gusto and Lavals doomed to be garbage because theyre doomed in lore
Well, that sucks. Along with worms, those two were the ones I was holding out for the most to get picked in these TW sets.
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>>539049357
NekrozGAWDS run this game
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Constellar Castor
Level 4 LIGHT Fairy/Effect
1700 ATK/600 DEF
If this card is Normal or Special Summoned, or flipped face-up: You can Special Summon 1 "Constellar" monster from your Deck, except "Constellar Castor", also you cannot Special Summon from the Extra Deck for the rest of this turn, except LIGHT and DARK monsters. You can only use this effect of "Constellar Castor" once per turn. A "Constellar" Xyz Monster that has this card as material gains the following effect.
● Once per turn, when your opponent activates a Spell Card or effect (Quick Effect): You can detach 2 materials from this card; negate the effect, and if you do, destroy that card.

Tellarknight Kyugni
Level 4 LIGHT Warrior/Effect
1500 ATK/1000 DEF
(This is also always treated as a "Constellar" card.)
If this card is Normal or Special Summoned, or flipped face-up: You can add 1 "Tellarknight" or "Constellar" monster from your Deck to your hand. You can target 1 other LIGHT monster you control; increase its Level and this card's Level by 1. If you would Xyz Summon a "Tellarknight" Xyz Monster using 3 or more monsters as material, this card can be treated as 2 materials. You can only use each effect of "Tellarknight Kyugni" once per turn.

Constellarknight Ptolmaeus Omega-7
Rank 7 LIGHT Machine/Xyz/Effect
2700 ATK/2700 DEF
3 Level 7 monsters
Once per turn, during your Main Phase 2, you can also Xyz Summon this card by using a "Tellarknight" or "Constellar" Xyz Monster you control as material (transfer its materials). While you have 7 or more "Tellarknight" monsters in your GY and/or banishment with different names, this card gains 2700 ATK/DEF and is unaffected by your opponent's activated effects. Once per turn (Quick Effect): You can detach any number of materials from this card, then target that many monsters your opponent controls; shuffle them into the Deck.
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>>539049420
chink MD updated the text of all vylon cards recently
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>>539048657
Can't you guys make a 4 before the machine lock? Isn't that why there was Mitsurugi Orcust? Just make Exciton knight
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>>539049679
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Constellarknight Delteros
Rank 4 LIGHT Warrior/Xyz/Effect
2500 ATK/2500 DEF
3+ Level 4 monsters
Your opponent cannot target Rank 5 or higher "Tellarknight" or "Constellar" Xyz Monsters you control with card effects. Once per turn: You can detach 1 material from this card; add 1 "Tellarknight" or "Constellar" monster from your Deck to your hand, then immediately after this effect resolves, you can Normal Summon 1 LIGHT monster. If this card is sent to the GY, except from the field: You can Special Summon 1 "Tellarknight" or "Constellar" monster from your hand or banishment.
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>>539049567
The good tellars are treated as constellars anyway
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Why are all of these monsters monster searchers
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I think I like decks with dual/tri-type/attribute combinations over mono-attribute/types or all types decks, the first of the latter is too one note while the second is too much
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Do Yummy monsters have a sense of camaraderie? Do they know values like friendship? Can they love?
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>>539049682
>If you would Xyz Summon a "Tellarknight" Xyz Monster using 3 or more monsters as material, this card can be treated as 2 materials.
Oh thank God
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>>539049671
Most of the DT tribes were doomed in the story, but even then they could end up half-decent after the support like how Ice Barriers got much better or how Genex got the Link 1 that does everything.
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>>539049420
To rub salt in the wound, stellarknight turned omega into their toilet. This is similar to genex turning the useless ally of justice into a better boss monster
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>>539049878
They're all buddies except for Snatchy.
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Constellarknight
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Dawg we are never gonna get to search this card
>>539049961
Vylons were always instruments created by Constellars
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these cards are all crazy right? I can see them taking Tellar rogue
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>>539049712
Orcust dark locks you, not machine lock (unless you use Crescendo gy effect).
Mitsu Orcust worked because KOFI and all Mitsu cards are dark.
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give me 1 reason to not play Castor, Kyugni, Diamond and Omega-7 in every deck now
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>>539050079
Alpha doesn’t even have a forced reading and you’d need a card that specifically searches it which they don’t like doing. They did just give tellars a spell negate anyway.
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>>539049953
Yeah, it leave some room for future support possible if ice barriers could get support when they were just as doomed as the rest of the lores...or retcon genex into being the bad guys all along
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>>539050134
Don't forget we also have a now consistency boost with Seventh Tachyon
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is there any reason we've gotten posts throughout the weekend? We usually have a break from reveals on the weekend
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>>539050036
I hope they team up and defeat that no good Snatcher
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>>539001554
fucking liar
kys
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>>539050079
Where's the HOPT???
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>>539050284
Branded structure deck
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The good news is that you no longer have to play the Sheratan search Caduceus summon Caduceus search Twinkle as your one and only 1 card combo
The bad news is that you really don't have a spell/trap worth searching, you only have the one in Tellarknight Constellar so that leaves the search for either a Tellarknight Spell or Constellar Spell/Trap empty, you really only have the Constellar Salvage or the Tellarknight Swallow Nest that locks you while its on board
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>>539049712
the only way i think you can get 2 lvl 4's is by banishing harp or cimbal to get 2 girsu on field, which locks you into dark. this works for mitsurugi because king of the feral imps and all mitsu cards are dark.
for fiendsmith you used to be able to get 2 link materials before locking yourself into dark.
nether works anymore either wat because they got nae naed
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Explain to the anime cards vs game original cards stuff because it looks like nonsense that gets repeated.
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>>539050201
>Add 1 "Stellarnova" Trap
Or
>Add 1 card that mentions "Tellarknight" or "Constellar"
They printed another Stellarnova card so it's fine.
Also did you know the tellarknight archetype has to be in all lowercase because of the HEROic ruling? Hilarious stuff
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>>539001554
>congrats on musketeers being able to use max going 1st, but fiendsmith is better of pure than trying to use their garbage
>treasure panther surprised me for being a vjump card that wasn't complete ass...now to wait for a flip deck that can use it
>fuck wasting reveal days to pad them out with import
>did care for archfiend, fur hire, or darklord. 3 archetypes in a row, impressive.
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>>539050134
Can you think of any way this support meaningfully pushes the envelope that other similarly broken 4-5 card support waves for ailing archetypes don't? It's good but I don't really see anything that makes me think meta
It's actually kinda still really reliant on the Normal Summon, like if you negate and destroy the NS I think they legitimately cannot extend past that
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>>539050148
It eats your normal summon, locks you into Light/Dark which is a problem for some decks, your only starter for the engine is Castor, Kyugni is a brick.
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>>539050676
Stellarnova is just random kanji it’s not that simple
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need a handtrap that negates anything activate/summon from hand
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It's fucked up neither Deneb or Unukhulai are 1 card combos because they never printed a Tellarknight with an ignition or inherent effect to special itself like they did with Constellar's Caduceus
In fact this new support kinda really fucking highlights how badly they need some sort of extension past negate and destroy on the NS or negate the NS entirely
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>>539051016
If they errata'd him to negating discards for cost instead of discards on resolution he'd be perfect.
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>>539050971
https://yugipedia.com/wiki/Stellarnova_Alpha
神星なる因子
https://yugipedia.com/wiki/Stellarnova_Wave
神星なる波動
Looks like there's some obvious similar string of text here to me
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>>539048865
why not just name it constellar tella knight kyugni?
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>>539051101
Nutellas don’t deserve shit this is a Constellar general
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>>539011664
wtf what'd i do
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Please give gishki support
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>>539051420
Fuck gishkis we need more laval cards
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>>539049682
>first the druler xyz that gains massive attack and is towers
>now this
lmao
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>>539051481
Oh, how some people are so quick to forget
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>Turbo Warrior Extreme
>Road Warrior Extreme
>Nitro Warrior Extreme
>Drill Warrior Extreme
When
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>>539051420
The only support you guys need is elf unban
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Well thankfully with this new support wave, I can say that at least one archetype I cared for past a "whatever" got support
>>539051627
We don't even have "Synchrons" for all the Yusei "Warriors" nor "Warriors" for all the Yusei "Synchrons"
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>>539050671
its thanks to a butthurt nekroz player
he wanted nekroz to get support but sunavalon got revealed instead
thats it... and the meme just evolved with the time
>Branded vs anime seasons
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I couldn't be bothered to read through these two archetypes back when they got bridged support in CYAC. So how much do these cards raise stellar's ceiling by?
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>>539051361
Plap guide.
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I think Constellar/Tellarknight needs a card that specials itself from hand or GY for free because the whole "dies to negating and removing the normal, even just removing the normal is pretty bad if it's not the guy that summons from deck" is really bad
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>>539051695
The other “warrior” synchro monsters are from the manga, in it he doesn’t use synchrons. Please, Synchrons has enough Synchrons already.
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>>539051361
Kys Sorafag
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>>539011664
Janitor apps are open, Do it yourself.
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>>539051472
>Fuck gishki
Say no more

>>539051642
That and please give gishki habakiri thank you
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vylon omega? beheaded lmao
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>>539051990
You vill remember the manga adaptations
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Why are Shockmaster and VFD still banned?
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>>539052281
Lol
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Why is S0 sill banned?
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>Ritualfags don't even ask for the non-OPD Chalislime, they ask for Habakiris instead
Impcantations...we are forgotten...
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Why is Kitkallos still banned?
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>>539051472
A laval that can take advantage of its archetypal foolish burial x2 and maybe even be the synchro version of tearlaments.
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>>539052692
They mating press Lil-La.
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>>539052472
Nigga you only have 3k life point remaining most of the time, you want to reduce it to 500?
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>>539052940
>lose 2500 LP at the end phase if you didn't Special Summon a Ritual Monster the same turn you activated the effect
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Does the new support help the turnskip?
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>>539053150
Holy shit i really cant read lmao
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Soon. I can feel it.
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Should I grab some molten conduction field just in case
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No one care about the terminal cards lmao
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Remember the DAMA Gusto support and pfffffhahahahaha
It was close though, imagine if it won the SD poll and got support with its peers in Ice Barriers and Cyberdarks and pffffhahahhahahah
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>>539053278
No because it’s constellar support and tellarknights don’t deserve anything
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>>539053585
It wasn't fair making gusto compete with an anome favorite like cydra...just ignore that ice barrier beat cydra. They lost by 1% of votes, they couldve at least pitted it a SD instead of that DAMA consolation prize
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>>539053415
If a miracle happens and they get picked, then "buyouts" will happen and they will go from 30-50 cents to a couple of bucks, depending if the support is genex or gem knight tier.
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Laval/Flamvell crossover support, amirite
Steelswarm/Evilswarm (yes I know Steelswarm is just Lswarm shut up you know the distinction between the two decks) crossover support, amirite
Igknight/Metalfoes crossover support, amirite
Dinomist/Crystron crossover support, amirite
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>>539054178
They should support igknight/dinomists like how they gave majespectre a pend xyz
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>>539053585
Gusto will always suck because they miss timing
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>>539054479
They have 2-3 half decent cards, and they could make anything work with 5 new bandaids that are their own engine.
jurracs become a playable engine with 4 cards built around meteor turbo. So gusto could with support could possibly become...a shittier version of mikanko?
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CHADgioh would never do this
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>>539054375
I can see dinomist getting modernized if it got a CaC like the majespecter link2, but igknight is cursed because it's designed too hard around MR3 and not need extra link zone to pendulum swarm.
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>>539055056
Igknights are all retardedly searchable and can pivot into card designs like Ignis Phoenix or get effects that mass retrieve cards from the ED or GY. Dinomists by comparison do not have a remotely modern card by our standards, you get Charge and Howling, everything else is horrifically outdated you'd basically be starting from scratch
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>>539055030
Stop being disingenuous. There are husbando and goofy alt arts as well. They just hire guest artists and let them draw whatever they want.
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its insane how dogshit is dracotail
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>>539055452
shut up faggot, dracotail is based
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You know what ever happened to Dinomist, Igknights and Majespecters by the second part of Draco lore? Did they just fuck off and not bother sans giving Master Peace's three companions a powerup? Kinda fucked up
>>539055030
>one of the lgbt flags on the ribbons
It's over...
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>>539055524
cope
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>>539055368
They have Made-To-Order alt arts sets dedicated 20+ monster turning into idols.
They have an ongoing web-anime dedicated to monsters as high school girls.
They've had all slots for the Gold Treasure alts entirely dedicated to feminization alts, like with Zenith monsters.
It's kinda obviously leaning towards one side.
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>>539055927
They are alt art sets aka something you don't need to get or engage with. Also that means the og artworks will be cheaper since the agp freaks will spike up the price of waifushit alt arts.
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>>539055308
Now that I think about it, igknights gets some advantages to being actual vanillas, while dinomist have so much anti-synergy random battle effects that feel straight out of the GX era that they may as well be vanilla. I was overestimating dinomist charge, forgot how poorly it aged
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>>539051915
>600 DEF
plap gently
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>>539056443
now generate her with a fat bulge
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>>539056327
If it's any consolation, Solfachords prove that even Dinomists, can be given enough support to be an entirely new deck entirely coping with the K9 engine
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Give me your best Rank 4 engine /dng/
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So artmegia fucking FLOPPED right?
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>>539055549
Lore decks tend to abandon certain archetypes in favor of focusing on decks that aren’t considered to be problematic.
Aka, they will never make Tearlament and Kashtira support (ever) or actually push the pendulums at all. Zoodiacs are in the shadow realm of “maybe” or “we can’t” with their rat hilariously being the face of “Brooken”, and it’s oddly similar to True Draco’s former status as being the deck that shouldn’t get any support.

That, and them not really thinking much about the marketability of certain archetypes or flat out being uninterested in them at all. Just slapping a lazy card or two on them, before abandoning them (Tri-brigade).

Lore is a secondary feature in Yugioh.
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>>539046103
>They brought the guy who won worlds
nice
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>>539056443
Tour Guide is purely for mating press!
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>>539057752
Give it some time. Soon they will try to shill it full stop and give it a branded fusion/sinful spoils snake eyes.
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>>539056770
Lunalight can do rank 4's, but as an engine they suck and as a deck, they are braindead and their fusion outperforms like every unbanned xyz mon.
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Constellar Tellarknight Ryzeal
You just have to make Duodrive before summoning Castor
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>>539049961
>>539052174
Vylons could always disassemble themselves to armor up other monsters
READ THE LOREEEEEEE
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>>539058609
Also
IT'S LITERALLY THE GIMMICK OF THE VYLON ARCHETYPE
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>>539055927
normal art looks so messy I can't even tell what I'm looking at
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>>539057752
he's a dark fairy, bound to turn heel real soon
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Should I try K9 Dinomist?
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BOOOOOORING
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WORMS SOON, TRUST THE PLAN!
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>>539059879
Beaver.
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The new Tellar cards are insanely good. I think they definitely lack their own Sakitama-type card but I'm excited for these to come to the TCG to try out.

>>539052692
Sorry bruv, she's made for NORDICGODS like me.
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>>539058214
I don’t think so.
The art mage cards in general look turbo shilled by the amount of silly it was allowed to have.
Its earliest extra deck boss monster has an Omni-negate.
Snake eyes was great by being a turbo link deck. But they were iffy going second. And the greatest asset to them are the link-3 and and that mega generic monster negate card.

White forest and Azamina were supposed to be strong too. But people only went with Azamina for the Omni-negate and completely ignored the huge pile of fusions it actually had.

Sometimes badly designed decks like Branded are stronger because their interruptions and win cons are simply much better and more flexible.
It is mega stupid that Rindbruum only negates extra deck monsters. But when the opponent plays a deck that actually works like that, you get to negate a critical combo piece of a card and then toss a card back to the hand, which alone could win the game. And if they send it to the GY, Albaz will come up there, take a monster, and make mirrorjade.

Mirrorjade was meta because it meant “otk or die” and had a great destruction effect that makes it impossible to do the “oh my board was wiped, just let me make this omega combo afterwards”.

It doesn’t really help that these meta decks depend too much on “add a card from the deck to your hand” effects that a droll or an ash completely kills whatever they do on turns 3 and 4 when the opponent’s effects were used up on the previous turn.
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>>539061362
"Also you cannot Special Summon monsters, except "Artmegia" monsters and monsters from the Extra Deck"
Contrary to what people would like to believe, getting an omninegate doesn't mean the archetype is shilled
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>>539061449
How many cards are actually like this in Artmage?
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>>539052019
...Am I supposed to know who that is?
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>>539061449
>But my field spell Konami can easily replace
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>>539061798
Literally the most important one in the field spell with the non-OPT effect to get every name in which the rest of the S/Ts are based around you having
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>>539060993
K9 Constellar feels like it could be a very legit thing. But we aren't getting these in TCG for 7-9 months so I'm not gonna bother playtesting it in imaginary. I don't want another Nekroz disappointment where their new support let them Bahamut turbo before going off, only for Mermail/Ryzeal to get it deleted. Very solid cards.
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>>539062016
Praying for Konami to print an Albaz the Ashen for your field spell the whole deck revolves around is really not where you want to be dude
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Decks for this feel?
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>>539062154
So you’re complaining about the most turbocharged field spell possible having a strong lock on it. All despite the fact that you already have a strong pile of main deck monsters to begin with that have their own strong fusions entirely and synergizes with the boring shill man.

Let’s look at ONE of them.
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>>539062184
Personally I'm just excited for regular Tellars + Constellars since it's pretty much one of my favorite of all time. I gotta fix it up a bit because I've had some small new ideas but idk.
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>>539062976
>special summon from hand that has a search effect built in so you can Ash the summon entirely
>disruption effect on field if you have setup
The broken pushed deck Tistina
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>>539062464
Albaz the Ashen didn’t add or special summon monsters from the deck, special summon himself from the GY at basically any time he wants, and get a normal summon all for himself.

“Fallen of Albaz” only has a single effect, and doesn’t do this amazing thing called being a starter and an extender at the same time.
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>Artmage is a deck more pushed than Snake Eyes because it has a card that requires comedic levels of setup to be an omninegate
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>>539062976
>3 or more different types
sounds shitty enough as is lmao
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Singleton power cards, definitely the place you want to be in Yugioh, especially when they have the most delibitating lock in ALSO YOU CANNOT SPECIAL SUMMON ANYTHING EXCEPT ED MONSTERS AND THIS ARCHETYPE SPECIFICALLY
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>>539063153
The whole point of art mage is spamming them on the field. The fact you only need two other monsters of any types to play that second effect is a clear indication of absurd shilling.
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finnel has already jobbed
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>>539063709
Hey, this card is still the rare 1-card combo for Dino despite the brick
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Also, the Artmage support in DOOD hints that they're probably doing something akin to the Visas lore archetypes where they won't really get main deck monster names and instead have the main guys, his honchos and will mostly get support in S/Ts, which is nightmarishly bad as made evident by the lock, go ask Scareclaw and Springans how that sort of thing works out even without locks
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>>539063498
>>539063505
>The difficult “set up” of Yugioh in an entire archetype is based on having three different monster types in an archetype that makes every monster it has be a different monster type.
What?
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>>539063805
>also you cannot special summon monsters except Artmages, Medius the Pure and monsters from the Extra Deck
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>>539064115
I negate the effect of Finmel to special itself to draw a card
I negate the effect of Granflare to summon and set a Spell/Trap
I negate the effect of Literia to summon herself and add a card from GY to the hand
It is, so easy, to stop Artmage when they're going second that I'm baffled you would argue it's more adept than SE at going second
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>>539063153
Tistina are broken and pushed though
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Singleton power card the whole deck is centralized around?
Starters with absolutely nightmarishly bad locks?
Now THAT's where you want to be in Yugioh
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>>539064734
Calling this a power card is an astronomical reach
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>>539057752
I hope they turn to shit because I didn't bother picking them up when they were reasonably priced.
Hope it's not another "year of diabellstar" type deal.
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>>539063440
Give that boy a "link 1" form so he can be a starter/extender in his own deck...
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>he’s malding about locks AGAIN
Decks are not bad because they have locks, they’re bad because the cards are shit.
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>>539064373
If your answer to everything is “negate” you’re too braindead. Negate beats everything that isn’t unrespondable.

The best way to beat Artmage is droll and ripping out any Artmage monster that manages to land on the field. Since all of their effects are very dependent on gathering them to your hand and having an Artmage monster on your field. And ghost ogre to kill that field spell.
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Locks are based. Fuck soup decks.
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So will tellar be tier 1 with new support? Seems broken to me
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>>539064984
Locks are responsible for soups like bug/plant however.
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>>539064940
Artmage is a bad deck made worse by its terrible lock on its centralizing starter basically cutting it off from any sort of Visassoup, Brandedsoup, Diabellstarsoup, Zefrasoup, Crusadiasoup.
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>>539065112
Just wait for 10 new versions of Finmel which will make the deck tier 0
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>>539065112
It would be bad anyway, have you read doomz?
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>>539064980
Yeah except every negate pulls double duty since not only is your summon stopped but so is your search, which is why you'd see people absolutely fucking seethe over cards like Demigod of Tistina and Veidos having Drytron-style esque effects, which is made exponentially worse by the lock since it's not like you can pivot into some other engine as a Plan B
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>>539065245
Yeah, the difference is that I would infinitely believe in a support wave that makes Doom-Z playable than I would for Artmegia. It also has the privilege of getting to latch onto random Xyz decks to save it, something Artmegia really doesn't get sans really really fucking bad fusionslop brews
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>what if ALL support cards for an outdated deck were good
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>>539065610
Stego's dino lock should have only applied to the main deck and gy desu
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In the same way every deck with Level 5 copes on K9, Dragonmaids cope with Dracotail, and like every Rank 4 strategy copes on Ryzeal, something like Doom-Z can cope if they ever print a future deck that isn't Doom-Z but synergizes with Doom-Z, by like being destruction and Xyz based or something, Doom-Z can happily slot itself in and cope with that.
If they ever print a Fusion deck that plays nicely with Artmage, oh wait no it fucking doesn't because the Artmage field spell archetypelocks you, and shit like Vanish only act as a search spell if you have the field up so you're either playing an exceptionally small package to really only do the Nerva or Diaktoros play or making odd clunky choices off the concession of how centralized Artmage is with the field spell
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>>539065812
They wanted to prevent you making two evols
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>>539065971
>if they print good cards that my bad cards can parasitise I can pretend the bad cards are actually good!
Or they could just make the cards good to begin with
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>>539065971
More like K9 copes on every deck that includes level 5 considering how bad most K9s are. And Dragonmaid, Shaddols and every other fusion deck just serves as a package for Dracotail to play different fusions (which you don't need because nothing beats Dragoon).
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>>539066060
as they should
Jurrac dedicate themselves to blowing the field with Meteor and that’s completely fine
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>>539066167
I'd imagine part of that process would involve removing the lock on Artmage Academy
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>>539066298
If the artmage cards were good they wouldn’t care about the lock
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I just hope the X-Saber support is legit, and more than just a further push into 'handrip turbo' like mermail got. I want to play my cardfu again
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>>539066354
Would Snake Eyes have been good if they locked you into Snake Eyes monsters
Would Yubel have been good if they locked you into monsters that mention Yubel
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>>539065610
Be fucking real, this isn't real support if its not boosting any of the old cards in any way.
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>>539066471
But it’s real support because it’s all about using Jurrac Meteor (their actual boss monster)
Or if you want me to mention other cards, then Impact and Aolo
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>>539066395
You will tribute the looping faultrolls and you will like it.
>>539066459
If the snake-eyes and yubel cards actually did something then yes, they would.
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>>539066596
*Aeolo
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>>539066395
Name three s/t worth popping today that are played in the same deck.
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>>539066459
>Would Yubel have been good if they locked you into monsters that mention Yubel
It'd still be fine desu, Yubel getting shifted out was more deadnamer's fault than anything else.
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>Artmage pushed
It's been in TWO sets and the second one treated them horribly. Counting AGOV as the first Sinful/Snake-Eye set (I don't count DUNE with the first spoil, fuck off, it was one card that we didn't know the lore was around), it was stacked out the ass, and in the following set it got Poplar and Promethean Princess. Call Artmage pushed when it gets a structure deck, Branded was pretty shit until it got one.
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>>539066768
VS field
Snow Devil
K9 quickplay
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>>539066639
>even decks like Snake Eyes and Yubel, would need to get retarded buffs to be good in a world in which they locked you out of non-archetypal monsters and even their full power iterations would be dogshit if they locked you in-archetype
>but Artmage is not made significantly worse by its lock
???
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>>539066850
you answered his trick question. Your deck would either eat shit to these before it gets to Hyunlei, or they chain all these and take you out with what they make after. Long gone are the days where you could Hyunlei and at least trade with some D Prisons. Nowadays a card like Hyunlei needs two other effects on it to be relevant.
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>>539066891
You picked a deck with no boss monster instead of ryzeal, which actually has locks and could be locked even harder while staying powerful.
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>>539066996
>no boss
Yeah as it turns out very few decks can come to a fraction of the power they would have if not archetype-locked, very few decks can cope with a complete archetype lock, like Ryzeal and Yummy, and even then those decks would absolutely feel the lack of any other archetype or generic card to back them up. I'm really not sure why it's so hard for you to understand that decks need exponentionally more insane cards the more of a lock they get to compensate
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>>539067305
>I'm really not sure why it's so hard for you to understand that decks need exponentionally more insane cards the more of a lock they get to compensate
This is literally my whole argument though, are you even reading my posts?

Also Vengeance is the White Forest boss until Snake-Eyes get a way to summon it.
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>>539067508
You said that if the Artmage cards were good, they wouldn't care about the lock when even decks like Yummy and Ryzeal that could cope would care about an archetype lock, and even literally good decks like Snake Eyes and Yubel would need buffs to be good if given archetype locks
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>>539067665
Yummy wouldn’t give a rat’s ass about an archetype lock beyond losing the striker engine and ryzeal would face a mild inconvenience in losing banshee but would still just sit on detonator most of the time anyway. If artmage cards were better, the lock would not hold them back.
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>>539065245
doomz seem pretty simple enough, 1 card into that rank 8 wind xyz that steals monsters as equips, far better than fartmage
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>>539067843
Star Ham, Metal Marcher, Arc Light, even shit like SP.
Bagooska, Exciton Knight, really just the entire fucking Rank 4 pool, any hybrid it ever played to either bolster the deck to not jobbing to Detonator getting outed or to deal with the fact it's an infamously bricky deck.
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>>539068094
Yummy and Ryzeal would still be formidable without any of those because they can fill in the blanks with staples due to a heavily streamlined gameplan. Artmage has ONE (1) monster that searches and it’s a level 5.
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>generics are the reason entire formats fucking die to slop and t0 , bahamut/fiendslop/cyberse
>somehow /dng/ defend this garbage
???????
Lock is the healthiest thing for a badonken card
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>>539068250
And they'd still be worse than their current iterations, for the obvious reason they lose out on toolboxing and options.
Again, Artmegia would not suddenly be good if the lock was removed, but they would be significantly better. The amount of buffs Artmegia would need to be good with a lock is significantly more than Artmegia without a lock would need. Again, even something like Snake Eyes and Yubel, would need buffs to be good if they had archetype locks on them.
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>>539068543
Artmage doesn't have badonken cards, yet it still has its archetype lock.
Artmage bad, Artmage be less bad if no lock.
Artmage need more cacs to be playable with lock than with no lock
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>>539068723
Artmage has one badonken card and it’s the only one that locks them.
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>>539068543
Generics are necesarry because you can't expect Konami to always be printing support for your favs. What the hell are you going to do if your fav is some obscure deck pre 2015?
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>>539069000
Funnily enough Sylvans are the last plant deck without a type lock
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"Locks on cards/archetype will make them by some degree worse" should not be a controversial statement but kind of an obvious fact akin to "1+1=2", but here we are. I wonder if it's because people assume it's some sort of politically charged statement secretly pining for the complete abolishment of every lock for some reason
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>BBS posting steam chart
Okay which one of you faggot posting it
https://bbs.animanch.com/board/5606531/
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They should started locking more specify attribute
Like
>You cannot SS from ED, except EARTH monster with ATK 1500 or lower
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>>539069303
Vernusylph
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>>539069303
They should also support more types and attributes. Imagine if every type had at least half the support Dragon does. Imagine!
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In terms of locks, it should be obvious that every deck ever would be inconvenienced by any lock, although that's not to say we should abolish shit like Branded Fusion/Ryzeal lock or whatever or that such locks even affect said decks at all, the ideal case is to give decks more powerful effects to compensate so decks aren't wholly hypergeneric sloppa, and it's also important to note that not all locks are the same in how inconvenient they are. Also this is solely for rest of turn and during the turn locks, because who fucking cares about locks while on field

Attribute locks and summon mechanic locks are basically almost always whatever, who cares?, they narrow decks down to a broad scope, even when it's like, a WIND or EARTH lock it's whatever
Type locks are rather dependent on the type, something like Warrior, Fiend, Dragon, or Cyberse doesn't fucking matter and are often times better than attribute locks like WIND or EARTH. Locking to Fish, Pyro, Reptile on the other hand is lmao tier, because how delibitating a lock is is based on how much it narrows down one's toolbox, both in terms of engine starters, variants and endboard pieces, and constantly supported types like Dragon and Cyberse, fare far better than types like Pyro or Fish.
This leads into the point that archetype locks are usually the harshest of locks, since unless you're something like HERO or D/D/D, your scope is entirely narrowed into the archetype you are given.

At what point you are locked also matters, if a lock is only on the last card you play, it doesn't matter, if it's on a midway piece, you could play generic cards before said midway piece, like how Dragon Link made non-DARKs before commiting to Rokket or HERO making Beatrice or Isolde before Faris. If it's on a shitty fucking extender you'd never play, you can ignore it, but if it's on the starter or is a turnwide xenolock, it massively shifts deck composition and plays.
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They should make more zombie decks that aren’t complete shite
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FIRE decks are so kino
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>>539049401
Isn’t it just an alt art?
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WATER decks are flicks
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>>539070290
No, they said 5 cards of support vs the previous 4 cards and 1 alt art
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>>539070223
>>539070306
Shut up Garunix
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>>539070428
>Garunix
>kino back-to-back card destruction
>Poseidra
>gay handrip
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>>539070136
Never happening, Konami fears the horseman.
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*laughs at your lock*
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It's funny that the 5ds era type rival in Plants have like Glow Up Bulb which I don't even think they run or max out on, and a non-OPT ED Jasmine meanwhile every Zombie deck has to be made ass for the wicked sins of uhhhh... Mezuki?
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>>539070649
You can laugh all you like but we all know you'd be making Spheres if you weren't locked.
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>>539070724
>THIS is the zombie equivalent of kofi
Zombies are in desperate need of a new modern deck that isn’t just REMEMBER THIS OLD FIELD SPELL????
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LMAO
every single reveal past 2 weeks have been better than troonsei sd
ummm... how do we cope!?
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how can konami get europeans back at the game?
is a new anime the only solution?
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>>539047581
It's good as a one of, the bad part is the timing to release it, it should have been released in the 2nd or 3rd wave.
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Can they shut off the internet in Britain already so this faggot can stop seething over 5D's
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>>539070724
I remember in an old Mayakashi or Vampire video Jerome talks about how zombie decks are broken because you get to play Uni-Zombie and Mezuki.
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>>539070829
pretty sure all dragonsoup lines make spheres before doing tracer dark lock anyway
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>>539071406
>Jerome has publically stated how broken he thinks Mezuki of all cards is
>the absolute state of every single Ogdoadic reborn spell
Honorary TCG exclusive? Honorary TCG exclusive.
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>>539071406
I hate how perpetually stuck in 2009 this guy is. OCG unleashes a card that's been banned since the early 2010's every list and it does nothing. Jerome's balding ass still thinks crap he lost to in 2012 is broken and can never come off. I think his old school player mentalities bleed into modern card design, i.e. Zombies used to be really good for a few months before the 3DS existed, so they can never have anything generic + playable.
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>>539071104
Not gonna stop until he rapes Sora unironically. He's been crashing out since Sora's marriage.
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>>539071890
To be fair, I don't think Jerome is responsible for a single Zombie deck sans Vendread, the faults of Zombie lies in the OCG and the OCG alone
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>>539071890
Yeah its quite bizarre how everyone from TCG seems stuck in past.

Still see retards complain about pends despite doing fuck all in every format.
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>>539071406
Although if Jerome still thinks Uni Zombie is broken, that would probably explain a lot about Ghoti
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>>539071406
Pic related, the one card combo that sets up Mezuki summoning...
something
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>>539069303
Look at R.B.
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>>539072470
Anons will tell you how good locks are yet adamantly refuse to ever look at the consequences of their thoughts and opinions
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Anon will tell you this would totally be the next Snake-Eyes if it weren’t for that darn lock
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>>539072669
>R.B. Gamma Cannon only grabs back MONSTERS from GY, so you can't even add this back off of summoning Cannon
Jesus Christ man
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>>539072669
R.B.'s theming is so nothing. They already did this shit with powertool back in 08, and with Noble Knights in 2013.
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>>539072819
Noble knights at least did something, and got unfucked later with infernoble.

RB is mediocre as shit.
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>>539048865
>>539049682
So, are these good?
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What if you wanted your petdeck to get support, get Jerome lost to it in a casual game vs Tewart 14 years ago, and their best card is still at 0 in the same year Detonator was king
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>>539072775
Anons will be like actually this lock is completely necessary because uhhhh i dunno, fuck this deck?
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>>539072894
Fuck you Zenmighty, eat shit for being a handlooping piece of shit.
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>>539073017
Still more playable than warrock. Dunno what the fuck they were smoking with that.

Literal 2005 tier card.
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>anons on both sides acting like all locks are created equal
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>>539073017
Anon will be like yo this deck would be tier 0 if it didn’t have that lock
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>>539073167
>>539070105
I literally said that locks aren't created equal
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>>539073129
War Rock is way better than R.B. and Ashened. At least it manages to be a proper beatdown deck.
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>>539073240
>At least it manages to be a proper beatdown deck.

Nigga, it can't even do that, bonus is minuscule and you get raped by handtraps or bare minimum amount of disruption.
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>>539073017
>pyro lock
>DARK
>fire can't even do princess cope
lmao
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>>539073216
Would you say War Rock would warp the format if not for their lock and thus the lock was necessary and not Konami cruelly kicking an archetype already down on its luck in the shins hoping it'll be crippled some more?
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>>539073515
Princess is a fiend, it’s just banshee detonator and those fire gaias
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Playing against Yummy and Fiendsmith and choosing to beat my retarded chud sons Ashened, War Rock and RB for comeuppance
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>>539072885
Bros?
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>>539073549
I was unaware war rocks even had a lock
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Hold on it’s really fucking funny to read War Rock Spirit and Sangen Kaimen side by side
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>>539073782
It don't, unless this count.

Deck is just that shitty.
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>>539073782
>>539073982
War Rock Medium
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>>539074050
Warrior lock isn't even bad. Infernoble work around it just fine.

War rock have fuck all to abuse or even swarm the field.
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>>539074050
Do you think Medium is why War Rocks are bad? Not maybe some other reasons?
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>>539074135
Yeah but it's like why? Why would you give War Rocks a lock what the fuck
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>>539074208
When have I ever said X deck would be good without a lock
Do you think Ashened and RB wouldn't be made marginally better if they didn't have the locks on them
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>>539074160
>>539074360
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>>539074360
I made an ashened slop deck with all the different engines I could fit. It was still fucking trash.
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>>539074464
Okay, and? I don't think Ashened and RB should have gotten locks because "Well they're already shit anyways". If I see a guy with no arms, I don't think he should have his legs chopped off too because "well he'd still be a cripple if I didn't so why should he care"
I really do not understand how this "Ashened and RB are made even worse by their entirely unnecessary locks" is confusing to you
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toon support doko
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>>539074784
Ashened don’t retroactively lock so if you weren’t stupid would do your engineslop BEFORE activating the lock. Same with Artmage, same with War Rocks, same with Darklords etc. it’s not like fucking Ashened would lead into any significant plays.
R.B. did actually warrant a lock of some sorts if Landing is going to do what it does. They just forgot to make the main deck monsters actually good.
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>>539066471
This is why I wonder why people would bother picking up old X-saber cards.
There isn't much to salvage there to be honest...
They'll just print retrains or an entire new "support" engine that you use with maybe 1-2 old cards and that is it.
Old shit can't be salvaged anymore most of the time when old "effect monsters" are basically vanillas compared to the current 3 effect minimum powerlevel.
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>>539065610
>>539066471
technigally doesn't stego just shit out aelo and megalo which allows you to get to double astero?
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>>539075203
Would you say Ryzeal Mitsurugi wouldn't be made significantly worse if Mitsurugi locked you into Reptiles or non-ED monsters after you use them or Ryzeal locked you out of Level/Rank 4s and you were forced to play the deck in one way as opposed to the deck's ability to bridge from either half no matter the order prior to the Feral Imps ban
I'm not saying that Artmegia or Ashened would be tearing the format apart without a lock, and that the locks are their only weakness, I'm saying that their lock is an additional baffling con to their large list of them, and in fact, my initial statement was that Artmegia was not a pushed deck because it has the archetype lock on it, and a harsh one at that, which is usually a sign that a deck is overbalanced similar to effects like "You can only use 1 effect per turn" or "except the turn it was sent to the GY" or "You cannot special summon monsters except X the turn you use this effect" and Artmegia is certainly not one of the occasions in which the overbalancing was because the deck was too good
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>>539075671
The only X-sabers you can do anything with are the ones that enable the handrip loop, all the other ones are completely unusable by modern standards.
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>>539075891
*into Level/Rank 4s
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>>539075891
How is Ashened bridging into anything?
How about Artmage?
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>>539075912
Exactly... this why I don't get the dreams for support cards. It ends up worthless most of the time.
At that point they might as well make new archetypes.
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>>539075993
Ryzeal DOES lock you into rank 4s
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>>539076196
>Level/Rank 4
The Level part here is important, as in, imagine if Ryzeal didn't let you summon ANY Level 8 monster even main deck ones like the Rituals
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>>539076354
I’ve already said ryzeal would still be strong with much harsher locks.
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>>539075203
Do you think that decks like Ashened, Artmegia, and RB would be completely identical to an Ashened, Artmegia and RB without the lock. Not, "the difference is only marginal", "the decks aren't bad because of their locks" but if Ashened, Artmegia, and RB were erratad to have their locks removed, they would be 100% identical to what they are currently, in every category, there would be no difference whatsoever between them Y/N?
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>>539075891
Locks are good because they're the easiest way to tell if a deck was designed to be fair. Does it have a """lock""" like Promethean Princess? It's obviously designed to be overpowered, now casual players know to avoid it or talk with their friends on if it's okay to use it or not.
Most of your complaints about this sound like you think every deck should be competitive or or "balanced". I should think this was obvious, but they're not, and they've never been. The whole fucking POINT is that some decks are just weaker so people who like weak decks can play against them with each other. Just like how some decks are purposefully designed to be bad-in-practice-but-fun-in-solitaire. And just like how some decks/cards are more about the theming and the LOREEEE than actually being practical.
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>>539077865
Well if Artmegia was a deck solely meant for casual play, then it's not a fucking "shilled deck" now is it?
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>>539075671
Jurrac actually uses 4 of their old cards so both of you are wrong
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>>539077974
It's a lore deck that will continually get support across this series. That does, in fact, make it "shilled". Unless you have your own definition of that word you'd like to share with the class?
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>>539075858
Double Astero + another Astero in GY + Impact set on the field, mind you
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>>539076157
The goal of supporting archetypes isn't to make them meta. Sure for some people being competitively successful is the only thing that matters, but you can just ignore them and wait for them to quit the game on their own. The goal of old support is to update ancient decks to the speed of modern Yugioh. Difficult-to-summon bosses are made easier to turbo, gimmicks like the Arcana Force turn skip or the yusaku.dek omni-summoning gimmick are streamlined, and combos are streamlined like how yusei.dek now has a 1 card combo. Obviously sometimes the card design team decides "let's make some of this support work with the best decks in the meta" like they did with a few of the new @Ignister cards because they want to push product, but the majority of the cards are just for fans of the old decks.
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>>539035674
Good, humans had their time already.
The future is NOW.
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>>539077803
Yes, Ashened would look the same regardless of any locks it has. I don’t know why the fuck you’re so fixated on locks, there are so many more important issues with Ashened like every single card being complete and utter bile.
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>>539078162
>>539061362
>The art mage cards in general look turbo shilled by the amount of silly it was allowed to have.
I don't think Artmegia looks turboshilled because "it has too many good cards", I think it looks really bad, made even worse by its lock, meaning that it is significantly narrowed by the cards that can support it, especially compared to previous loresoup decks, and also by the quality of cards we saw in DOOD. I do believe Artmegia will get many cards in Series 13, I do not believe it will be good on any competitive level, and I would hazard a guess that if Medius lore DOES find a meta deck, it will be playing very few Artmegia cards, if any, and will share a similiar fate to something like Scareclaw. If a shilled deck is a deck that gets a lot of cards, then sure, it can be as shilled like Genex or Worms were in terms of quantity over quality, if a shilled deck is by Konami intending it to find meta success, which this person was probably claiming, then no, no I do not think Artmegia is shilled.
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>Yuya’s JP VA got divorced
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>>539078952
No way.
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>>539078952
good for him
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>>539078952
did the baby laughted at least?
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>>539078952
Troonya
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>Jurrac’s entire new wave resolves around Jurrac Meteor ( their original boss) + abusing Aeolo (another old card) + setting Jurrac Impact (another old card) from deck
>Velphito is aslo used to synchro climb
>dng: They don’t use the old cards! It’s shit!!!
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>>539078952
From whom?
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>>539079474
Sera’s JP VA
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>>539078903
I replied to a post claiming Artmegia was turboshilled because of the crazy cards it got posting the sign of overbalancing on the Golgonda-esque field spell the deck is centered around and how just because decks get an omninegate it doesn't mean it's shilled in which you then spazzed out at me because you think locks don't affect a deck's anything, not "a lock isn't the only thing that makes a deck bad" but "a lock has 0 impact on a deck whatsoever", this is in spite of the fact you obviously agree with me that Snake Eyes would not be good if it had an archetypal lock into "Snake-Eyes" monster and would have to be fundamentally changed to be even playable, and that Artmegia is not a good deck. In fact you seem rather insistent on continuing this conversation via bad faith arguments, because when I said that Artmegia is not a shilled (in terms of deck meant to be meta) deck, you argue that actually it's a shilled (in terms of deck that gets a lot of cards) deck unless I had some other definition of shilled when even the first post would tell you what the OP meant by a deck being shilled
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I just realize
Dino don’t have any Xyz worth a damn
Evol Xyz are not Dinos
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>>539079860
I have not once said anything food about artmage. In fact I’m saying they suck, and that it’s because the monsters are shit rather than the lock. If they had some more searchers they might be okay but Graflare needs you to already be playing.
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>>539078952
At least he waited until he was divorced. Unlike some heroes.
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>>539079591
Bro managed to land kana hana and lost her. Truly a fumble of all time.
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>>539080373
Yes, I said that you agree with me that Artmegia is not a good deck but you seem intent on odd word lawyering given that when I said Artmegia is not a shilled deck (as in deck with good cards meant to see meta success) as deferred to in the OP, you claimed that uh actually it is a shilled deck (as in deck that gets a lot of cards) unless I "had another definition"
On the topic of locks, here's an extreme example, since you mentioned how you played Ashened soup and it still sucked, and how you can simply activate other cards before Awakening or Extinguishing, if every single Ashened and Veidos card was erratad to have the text
"You cannot summon non-"Ashened" or "Veidos" monsters, or activate the effects of non-"Ashened" or "Veidos" cards the duel you activate this effect.", would you say this form of Ashened would be identical to the one we have now and in no way would it be worse than the original?
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>>539080931
*You cannot summon monsters, except "Ashened" or "Veidos" monsters, or activate cards or effects, except for "Ashened" and "Veidos" cards
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>>539080931
No I did not call artmage a shilled deck.
>if every single Ashened and Veidos card was erratad to have the text
What if they were all errata’d to win the match upon resolution? What if the sky was maroon?
They don’t say that.
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>>539080515
doesn't he still have some gigs?
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>>539081125
>>539061362
>The art mage cards in general look turbo shilled by the amount of silly it was allowed to have.
Yeah I said another person said it was shilled, and that I disagreed with him and that you spazzed out at me for "lock" reasons
>>539081125
>What if they were all errata’d to win the match upon resolution?
Would you say Ashened would be better if they did though?
>What if the sky was maroon? They don’t say that
Again, you seem entirely interested in bad faith arguments to prolong this discussion, the obvious answer in yes, would lead directly to my point that harsher locks make decks by some degree worse, and softer locks make decks some degree better, to what metric it does so isn't concrete, but it's not fucking nil. I have never once fucking argued that locks are the sole barometer for which deck qualities are judged, but that it doesn't fucking help or "not change anything" to get xenolocks if you're already down and that Artmegia lock is an indicator it was overbalanced and thus, not a meta shilled deck
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>>539081617
>Yeah I said another person said it was shilled
>>539080931
>you claimed that uh actually it is a shilled deck
Which is it?
Ashened would look the same with or without any locks. It’s locks are practically nonexistent as is and the only cope variant I’m aware of is ryzeal specifically because of pyro synergy.
Artmage likewise doesn’t fucking work with anything anyway due to stats being all over the place, and if they want to shill it they’ll just make better artmage cards.
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waiting for yang zing support to incorporate to my wyrm soup
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Wyrm is a cringe type
They might as well call them dragon
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>>539081617
If I say a 9/10 is worse than an 8.5/10, that doesn't even mean I said the 8.5/10 is bad, it's a comparison between two fucking points rather than an objective quality 8.5/10 shares.
If I say Ryzeal with no locks is a 9.1/10 in power but Ryzeal with its lock is a 9/10, I'm not fucking arguing that Ryzeal needs its locks removed, I'm stating an objective fucking fact that a Ryzeal with no locks would be a better deck no matter by what difference, than our Ryzeal with locks. An Ashened in which every card literally wins the match on resolution is in fact an objectively more powerful version of the Ashened we do have, just like how an Ashened but every card effect and summon locks you into Ashened for the duel would be worse than current Ashened. That's literally just true and I do not understand how this point is so difficult for someone to grasp. The same effect with no lock is better than the same effect with a lock similar to how the same effect but NOPT is better than the same effect but SOPT is better than the same effect but HOPT is better than the same effect but HOPD, regardless of what effect it is.
>>539078162
>It's a lore deck that will continually get support across this series. That does, in fact, make it "shilled".
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>>539082005
>>539082526
>>539078162
>It's a lore deck that will continually get support across this series. That does, in fact, make it "shilled".
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>>539082372
no ur cringe
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>>539082239
Me too anon, me too. One day we will both have a trap immune Baxia on our field with Skill Drain up.
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>>539082526
>If I say Ryzeal with no locks is a 9.1/10 in power but Ryzeal with its lock is a 9/10
Ashened with locks is a 0/10 while Ashened with NO locks is a 0/10. Do you get my point yet? Stop fixating on locks.
>>539082668
Not my post.
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>>539082873
yosh, lets do this my wyrm friend :D
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>>539083062
>Ashened is 0/10
No, it is not, Ashened is not the worst deck ever. Again, nothing but bad faith arguments from you.
If I brought a deck with 60 Level 5 non-Pendulum Normal monsters in it, claimed it was a 0/10 deck, and dueled you under the conceit that neither could surrender or intentionally lose, would you argue that both our decks are evenly matched, that um these are totally equally bad decks
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>>539083514
Ashened IS a 0/10 and you need to stop coping.
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>>539083572
Is Ashened worse than a deck of 60 Level 5 non-Pendulum Normal Monsters
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>>539083617
Level 5 vanillas are not a deck, they’re a 10 year old’s binder from 25 years ago. And you say I’m the one arguing in bad faith holy shit.
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>>539083854
>or in their deck
Never been more disappointed with a card in my life.
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>Draw 3 cards.
>Draw 3 cards. You cannot special summon Pyro monsters.
>Draw 3 cards. You cannot special summon monsters, except Warriors.
Imagine if you were to claim that the 1st effect is better than the 2nd effect is better than the 3rd effect and some moron kept trying to claim that they were the same effect, not "the difference is marginal" but that they are 100% identical in every way.
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Imagine if all the ashened cards said draw 3, maybe they’d actually be a good deck then.
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>>539084096
>>539077803
>Do you think that decks like Ashened, Artmegia, and RB would be completely identical to an Ashened, Artmegia and RB without the lock. Not, "the difference is only marginal", "the decks aren't bad because of their locks" but if Ashened, Artmegia, and RB were erratad to have their locks removed, they would be 100% identical to what they are currently, in every category, there would be no difference whatsoever between them Y/N?
>>539078903
>Yes
Not a bad faith argument btw, this is what is being argued
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>>539084312
Show me the ashened card that says draw 3 and pyro locks you, nigger.
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>>539079591
HE WAS MARRIED TO KANA HANAZAWA WTF?????????????

Well at least he will take half her shit

gg
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>>539084550
>he's doing the pose
Wew lad, that's spicy.
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>>539085141
The most based Jap.
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>>539085141
sorry but what's going on here again?
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>tune in that pokemon regional lola linked
>there is a women's only event
>judge is a tranny
>there are a few trannies at the tables and others who look like actual girls
>there are little girls as young as 13 interacting with obese troglodites cosplaying as girls

kinda grim that kids get to be exposed to these freaks if they want to play paper

no kids in yugioh means there is less risk of these freaks talking to little boys and girls
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>>539085221
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assassination_of_Inejir%C5%8D_Asanuma
The short of it is: "teen stabs socialist pigdog in the gut".
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>>539085210
>Okinawans getting raped by G.I. niggers is...LE BASED
?
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>>539085328
I will now remind everyone that if you point that out you immediately get booted from the tournament.
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>>539085353
https://x.com/promptborzai/status/1959388728159343063
It's so funny to me when you do any reading on Asanuma/Yamaguchi and it's apparent Yamaguchi was basically the Japanese equivalent of a ZOGslave. I'm sure he can rest easy every time a nigger rapes an Okinawan
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>>539085824
Some things never change.
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I summon I:P Masquerana in sex mode
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>>539085907
cant wait for her ritual form in second wave.
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>>539085907
Evil women owe me sex.
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If Constellarknights got a Circular, would it trigger this card? Since it gets foolished as cost, then the Circular would be summoned so it would see the summon right? Regardless, Constellarknights really need a free fucking special the deck is retardedly reliant on the NS not being hit by any sort of negate and remove
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Hello, is anybody there?
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is there still a card left to be revealed for constelarkinghts?
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>>539090965
yes, 1
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>>539091040
nice, would it be a s/t card you think?
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I still don't understand the difference between constellar and tellarknight.
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If they want Yusei SD to use Junk Warrior OTK, they should have given them a Sangen Summoning
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>>539091163
Constellar (called Sacred in Japan) was a Level/Rank 3-6 centered deck that debuted in the Zexal era, while Tellarknights were a Level/Rank 4 centered deck that debuted in Arc V, canonically the descendants of Constellar.
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Which is stronger? Gimmick Puppet or Galaxy Tachyon?
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>>539091668
Dunno if puppets still have FTK capabilities, if they do it's them, but both decks can win games nowadays, it just won't happen all that often due to them being cludged-together, patchwork messes up against decks streamlined from birth.
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Constellar Galaxyroad
Spell
Take 1 Spell/Trap that mentions "Constellar" or "Tellarknight" on it's effect from your deck, and set it on your field. You can banish this card from your GY, increase or reduce the level of a monster you control by 1. You can only activate one "Constellar Galaxyroad" per turn.
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>>539091668
Gimmick puppet only banlist hit is strings which cuts off lines without the field spell. The field spell equals FTK. Gimmick puppet also gets to use Impulse. Impulse boosts the strength of every dark, water, fire deck
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>>539094065
Why no rainbow bridge package to search field spell?
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I wonder why the level modulation of Xyz decks like Constellars and Chronomaly are kinda really shit given that they have 4 different levels between 3 and 6
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I indent to play archfiened once the ritual comes out what cards are out in paper should i buy before they get expensive i already have all the generic ritual support. pre-prep raven etc.
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>>539094980
need yo make a card that you can choose the level of monsters you want to be so you can xyz summon the card you want
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>>539095604
Buy this starter
literally made for them
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Kaiser if he Vrains.
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Portugal
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>>539096608
But >>538978007 said it was expected they'd have 120 players, why did less than half actually show up?
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>>539096820
EUs are unplayers and they're letting the game die over there.
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>>539097301
Good, let it die, only through death can this game be saved.
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>>539079591
she cute
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posted the AIslop image again award
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yusei sd is the worst product in last decade
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ryugegods we are not forgotten
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>>539097481
It's so funny too because a shitty photoshop of the actual image would still look better
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>>539081440
Only his old roles
No one is willing to hire him for new roles anymore
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>>539097771
Yeah and the guy who got third was playing a structure deck.
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>>539097771
the broken
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>>539097975
Isn't this just worse Jurrac?
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>>539078952
I noticed that modern Japanese couples don't last long.
Vanguard's second MC went through his divorce arc too (with Atsuko Enomoto).
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>>539097771
>Jurrac Ryu-Ge
>inb4 it was just Jurrac playing 3 copies of this to get either Stego or Misc
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>>539096820
dead game
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wwas branded fusion at 1 or 3 before banlist, I don't remember
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>>539098074
>>539097975
>>539098031
Ryu-ge is doing the heavy lifting here, Jurracs are the support.
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>>539098260
It was at 1 because Branded kept Gimmick locking people for free wins.
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>>539098392
ok thanks
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>>539097975
So this is the all gas version, right?
You have a ton of searchers and pray that opp doesn’t have enough handtraps to stop you?
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>>539097975
>they can't ash War Zone AND Stego
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>>539097975
the 1 imperm pretending it'll do anything
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>>539098701
ikr?
Should have just added Terraforming
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>>539097975
High vril deck
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>>539098701
Surely it's a crossout target :)
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>>539098956
That list doesn’t run Crossout
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>>539099075
that's the joke :)
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>>539097883
I thought he was in bluelock though
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radiant typhoon
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>>539099749
they didn't make the allure secret?
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To this day I cannot believe they made Jurrac's work. Then again, if you told me they'd ever make Yubel relevant I'd have laughed at you and they made that so good it was not only meta but it fucking won WORLDS.

At this point anybody saying they can't make x or y archetype work is crazy, they can make whatever the fuck they want work, all that matters is if they want to or not.
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>>539099886
Why would they?
It only matters in Striker and Striker isn’t even the best deck in OCG even with all the support
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>>539099953
>To this day I cannot believe they made Jurrac's work
if they can make jurrac works, they can also make scrap work too
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>>539099749
My eyesight sucks, are those 2 spells ultras? Or commons/supers?
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>So, how do we fix Jurrac?
>Just give them access to 4 nukes
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>>539100162
There's no way Jerome rarity bumped the worst deck the most.
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>>539097975
"yeah im not reading allat" is probably his wincon
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>card when I returned to YGO around Dueling Network era
>vs
>card now
This has been happening for years, but the blatant difference in this card design of this one hits really hard.
The old card feels beyond useless.
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>>539100659
lel true
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>>539100850
kill yourself kiketuber shill
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>>539100325
>we must kill every baby everywhere
>3+ times in a row
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>>539099853
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>>539100715
I remember making Pleiades with Klaus years ago.
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>>539097741
is this true or a meme? I want to see the sales figures
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>>539100715
It's just a terrible ass card? It came out after DUEA. You don't get to pull the heckin complexity card after Pends release.
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>>539101250
It sold out immediately, the british have been having a meltdown ever since.
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>>539101272
Kaus was absolutely fucking crucial for Constellar to make Pleaides what are you talking about
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That'll be 300 dollars for the playset.
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>Dracotail and Yummy had 4 Ultras
>K9 only had 2
Probably should have been obvious which deck was gonna get hit the hardest
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>>539100850
>dracotail is not tier 1, is it? I don't believe him
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Are there any other cards that have
>Except a monster already affected by [card]
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>>539101405
that's one store and I'm sorry but if you're who I think you are, your opinion means less than zilch to me. I want to see the sales numbers.
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>>539100850
>Dracotail tier 1
How? That deck has a terrible Yummy matchup.
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>>539100850
>striker
really?
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>>539102041
Dracotail has a great Yummy matchup. It was the VSK9 matchup that killed Dracotail and now VS is worthless
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>>539102001
Forgot the card
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>>539102258
That's Megidramon.
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>>539101405
based
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>>539102258
>just a worse unsearchable Blaze Cannon (which is already quite redundant in Ra due to consistency issue)
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>>539081439
Fiend Mirror bros it's our turn next
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>>539103083
Its searchable :)
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summon sorceress had its effect errata'd right
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>>539103591
Yeah. It's still a strong effect but dunno if anything that's not coping is gonna bother running her these days.
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>>539101158
Ze Amin's wife.
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>>539103718
thanks, so no one want to use her now lol, even firewall dragon is used after being nerfed
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>>539081439
What is the point?
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>>539101813
>>539099749
Spoon or Carmelia import? TCG free agents?
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>>539104045
he's cool but saw 0 play in the regular game, rush gives them a second chance at life
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>>539066840
There was no such thing as a branded deck till Despia was made. Artmage was a deck since day one.
Diabellstar’s first archetype was snake eyes.
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plant ritual monster when
pyro ritual monster when
psychic ritual monster when
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>>539104341
and why would a 2300 ATK ritual monster see play in Rush?
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I need to CUM. Deck for this feel?
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>>539104797
purrely
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>>539104797
purrely
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Now that I think about it, I wonder if I should side Sales Ban in Merlanteans
Going first you have the unique ability to look at your opponent's hand and see what handtraps they have
Going second you can call that stupid fucking Link 1 that I hate, or idk Detonator or whatever the most threatening part of the opponent's board is
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>>539104797
K9
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>>539104797
constellar ursarctic machina
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>>539104638
Because Rituals in Rush exist in the Extra Deck so they aren't as bricky, spells can be set to not get in the way of your Rush draws so opening multiple of the ritual spells isn't as bad, being a non-effect monster is an upside since a bunch of spells/traps only hit effect monsters, and they can make a support wave for the ritual monster where you actually want the Ritual monster to stay out on the field and be your boss monster.
Zera and Hungry Burger's support in Rush are good and match their themes, while stuff like Nouvelle in the main game completely misses Hungry Burger's theme and they don't even run him 99% of the time.
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>>539056503
Why on earth would a woman have one of those?
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Thoughts?
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>>539105924
waifu monsters should be more like this instead of like evil twin, maliss, mikanko, sky strikers, exosisters, etc.
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>>539105924
big titts and ass
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>>539106151
Turning waifus into monsters...holy fuark...
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x-saber today
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Alien Mother
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New Traptrix support today.
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>Darklord support that actually helps my Agent deck
>Constellarknight support
>actual good banlist for once
I haven't felt this good about a format since before POTE dropped
>>539105924
Handjobs/10
>>539106151
>>539106328
Fuck yeah, give me waifus with big titties that look like they came out of a Cronenberg movie
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>>539106328
they shouldn't turn into monsters, they should already be monsters
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>>539106857
Do not stick your dick into the plasma.
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>>539106959
i will stick my dick into the plasma
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>>539106857
If anything, it is hotter when the waifushit is actually a monster in disguise and they go "Oh noooo, my true hideous form is revealed to you, you will never see me again the same way as you gaze upon my monstruous true form, our future relationship is ruined waah waahh" and then you hold her big giant hand and look at those same eyes which go unchanged.
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>>539108628
that is a man
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>>539109532
that is also a man
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Realistically, with Vanquish Soul obliterated, do I just sell my K9 package now?
I don't intend to play crystron and K9 Cydra idk...
Might as well recoup some losses no?
I plan to play Dracotail which seems better pure or with magistus and Mementotlan which seems just fine without a 110€ package. Yubel can't use it either so whatever.
As far as I can tell the OCG doesn't play K9 pure either so I wont have to bother picking up Noroi.

Don't get me wrong, I like how simple the engine is and how it plays, I just don't see the point of holding an expensive package I can't realistically use.
What do you guys think?
I'll keep my vanquish soul core because I only played with it one locals post holy sue... and I'm somewhat attached to the deck, here is hoping one day they'll unhit it.
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Nigger shut the fuck up youve been crying about your metatranny deck being obliterated for the past 5 threads no one cares
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>>539110257
>I don't intend to play crystron and K9 Cydra idk...
You're missing out then because they're very fun
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>>539110442
Heartwarming, Son finds new thing to incessantly shitpost about
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>>539102031
Wait next month for report ranking
https://www.torema.jp/202508orecamarketconditions/
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(OCG) Fuwadora Cup - 246 Participants

2nd: Sky Striker
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Now that the dust has settled, what went wrong with Phantom Revengers?
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>>539112153
that doesn't show the sales numbers either though, it just shows how that yugioh gets mogged by pokemon and one piece
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>>539112421
>Magnifistorm Trance
>Thrust into Black Goat Laughs
>Illusion Gate
Now that's adapting to the new format I guess
>Metalfoes Fusion making a comeback
I was not expecting that
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>>539110632
I mean this without trying to be rude, but for anime decks like that I'm very picky about how I'd play them.
I looked at some of the deck lists and combos and while I see how this could be enjoyable to some the endboard looks like generic combo slop.
It also looks more K9 than Cyber Dragon.
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>>539112153
um, bro...?
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>>539112421
Liger dancer, "unaffected by card effects except Lunalight"
I see the vision but I don't see the card that mills the extra deck.
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lunalight won in fr*nce
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>>539113170
Thank you for the necessary censorship.
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>>539112939
i did not quote or reprint it
i just screenshot the translation of it
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>>539113170
of course the half nude furry girl deck wins in france
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>>539112524
>2 meta-defining DBPs in a row
They were never pulling off 3 in a row
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DOOD LEAKS WHEN?
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>>539113107
HAMP kills a Liger Dancer, Illusion Gate reborns the dead Liger Dancer, Liger can send Perfume Dancer.
This is how Sky Striker deals with double Liger.
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>>539113170
>2 Labrynth
whose cow is this?
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lunalight won in the netherlands too
rip odion enjoyers
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>>539113703
What are these? They look pretty cool.
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>>539112153
>>539112939
the yakuza are on their way right now
>>539113996
radiant typhoon / "magnifistorm" if you're using the old translation
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>>539114183
New
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>>539112768
>It also looks more K9 than Cyber Dragon.
That's completely optional, though. You can keep K9 as a small engine to just play in turn 0 and make Rank 5s more easily than just spam Ripper into Werewolf and Mjollnir lock faggotry
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>>539113996
Magnifistorm/Radiant Typhoon, an archetype focused on MST.
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>>539114154
>>539114346
Thanks. Reading them makes me feel like they are unplayable.
Sad for such cool artwork.
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>>539113676
based tech
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>>539112524
They still have a good chance with the main set support. Remember, Memento and R-Ace were unplayable on release.
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>>539114787
Eh, they're bad but not unplayable. They can be decent enough with 3 good cards
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Raye when she wants to ask Konami-kun for more support
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>>539116624
Memento needed multiple waves of support to be playable, and the RACEists needed to use a whole other archetype to enter meta contention. I don't think any of the PHRE archetypes will make it.
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>Legendary 5Ds Deck (Nov 7)
New Blackwing cards, right?



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