>Recent NewsPOCHIE STAFF HIT BY C&D; Development status uknownEPOCH STORE OPENED, Buy mounts and cosmeticsBlizzard files a criminal RICO case against TurtleWoW, Shenna and her entire team BUT SERVERS NOT GOING DOWNKezan and Menethil mergedAscension crew is effectively in charge of the server. Old epog staff fled like rats from a sinking ship due to C&D.Dutch promises both Guru & Kezan will continue running and a new dev team will work on both servers.Changelog finally returns, new fixes coming up.Free faction change to alliance now in Orgrimmar, 5% xp bonus for allies coming up.Gurubashi at >2000 concurrent; merge when???Log in using your old Epoch account details on the Ascension website.>https://ascension.gg/>What is Project Epoch?A World of Warcraft Vanilla+ Private Server featuring TBC talent trees and tasteful custom content.>1500+ New quests>2000+ New creatures>2000+ New bugs>2000+ New items>...and MORE!!>Guilds (mostly dead)<DESU> Gurubashi Alliance<Racial Knowledge> Kezan>Previous Thread>>538933571
>do DM on my Iron Explorer>get to Smite>Even after telling everyone to move every time the cannons fire, two people still die including the tank>I almost die because I had Smite aggroFuck me, maybe I shouldn't do dungeons after all... I don't wanna lose my progress because of retardation.
FRIENDLY REMINDER EVEN NORMIES KNOW THE SERVER IS DEAD
I knew I was right but I didn't want to be THIS right. Why can't we have two good classic+ projects?
Theres 2100 people right now./who is not shared between factions.
>>539053527>>539053581good morning sir
>>539053754There's more than two people laughing at Epoch in the world anon. Based on those comments, there's a lot more.
>>539053808yes sar very good sar do the needful
>>539053132the boss has 2 stuns and they can chain stun the tank when the bombs are coming out so he has that excuse, the others not so much
So now I know /who is NOT based on two factions, there is no way both are perfect 50/50 right now.
They fixed the Ironforge Airfield finally.
>>539053527It just doesn't have a lot of content and doesn't offer anything really outstanding that SOD didn't already do (and did better).Epoch is truly the Classic+ waiting room.
>>539053976really? what's the rest of the quest chain like?
>>539053614I don't think that's true
>>539054090You just kill some trolls. It ends with an elite quest.
>>539053614>/who is not shared between factions.They changed that on release day
>Another of episode of "waow the game doesn't have 3x the amount of players that vanilla/tbc servers had at all times, this must mean it's deader than dead!"I hate zoomies so fucking much it's unreallove from azerbaijan
>>539053754morning, dead server cuck
how do i make an account for this? the project epoch website is gone.
>>539054202i'd say maybe 1/3rd of the people who say that are being genuine and the rest are just shilling for other servers or just generally shitposting retards>>539054251you register through ascension's website now
>>539054202>Epoch loses 60-70% of its playerbase and two merges in the first monthThat seems sustainable! Ascension hasn't even let us know who is going to continue developing Epoch after the devs resigned.
>>539054127>>539054164I mean its not exclusive to each faction. So theres 2100 people in total.
>>539053976>>539053976can you please check if "The Dustwind Escape" quest for The Barrens is bugged or not please
>>539053132>doing dungeons with randosYou are literally asking for it
>>539054393I ain't Whorde, nigga.
>>539054467could you check on their discord please?
>>539054369You'd be crying what little brains you had out if you were alive during vanilla/TBC when servers were capped at 2000 and later 3500. Kill yourself.
>>539054535he doesn't actually care about the pop numbers it's just the jeet that spams turtlewow shit clocking in for his shift
>>539054535>Epoch loses 60-70% of its playerbase and two merges in the first monthI forgot the second part of my post.>Turtle loses 10% of its playerbase, then grows it back after the RICO lawsuit legitimizes it as a threat against Blizzard>>539054587Cope.
>>539053949woah, you finally figured it out, retard
>>539054636>from just a retard zoomer to a genuine turtle shill+5 rubleslove from tajikistan
>>539054726You didn't know this either:)
>>539054501Seems like it is bugged.
>>539054921quite literally everyone did dumbfuck, thats why we've been calling you retarded
>>539053132frankly the only way i could manage an iron man would be hiding in a cave below my level and grinding forever. in other news epoch has lost the fresh server smell so naturally it lost a large part of the playerbase. getting youtube spammed made the initial pop flukey anyway.
>>539055167>we???
>>539055231>in other news epoch has lost the fresh server smell so naturally it lost a large part of the playerbaseWhy is Ambershire staying steady anon?
I really do not care about your autistic server tribalism.
>>539055451It's not tribalism it's a question.Epoch has dropped faster than any other pserver community I've seen.
>>539055385does it have raids? epoch has done been progressed.
Are there any new custom quests for RFD?
>>539052909>pregnant man server>it was actually stillborn
>>539055884HOLY KEKEpoop blown the fuck out
roguebros, how is ass in pvp? Is stopping at cold blood and specing the rest in sub the better option?
at least Gummy -ACKs hes servers early, so its not THAT embarrassing...
>>539056337i'd be curious as well, i've seen ass poison builds float aroundi imagine burst builds are out the window since every level 30 has as much health as a 60
>>539056337thats what i was wondering too, i wanna play rogue, but i fuckign cate combat, its so fucking boringon paper, it should be okay since envenom and mutilate, but i dont remember assass being really decent until wotlk at leastdid they even fix the poisons, actually?
>>539057368Poisons were fixed very early on.The only thing still broken is Poisoned Knife talent afaik.
>>539057368i tried to learn crippling poison at 20 from a trainer in darnassus but it wouldn't let me take it, when i reloaded the skill was gone. i haven't been able to make it back to stormwind yet to check if i need to learn it from my race's trainer or what.
>>539057574Pretty sure Crippling Poison is from a quest and it being learnable from a trainer was just a workaround.
>>539057661oh i bet that's what it is, i guess it's not fully dummied out yet or something. clicking on Train didn't do anything and i don't have the skill, but it's missing from that trainer now, it's the damndest thing.
>>539056337It's so-so, mutilate has really high base damage + scaling with your daggers. Your biggest issue will be that envenom is your highest dps skill but it requires deadly poison stacks for which you don't have the time to build almost ever. On top of that you will get kited to death without shadow stepDisclaimer though: I played assassin only in the 40s and 50s bracket and got dual spec after that
dual spec is a bandaid for bugs and imbalance. the price drop was a desperate bone thrown to try maximise retention
>>539052909Not being a doomer, just being realistic at this point: I knew epoch would have bugs and balance issues. I accepted those with the promise of the devs they would be very active in fixing and balancing those issues.Sure the C&D threw a wrench in their plans but I can't help feel like they are a. overwhelmed by the amount of issues and balance problemsb. they actually don't work on it anymore so the ascension team puts epoch on the back burner until bronzebeard is ready to release and then put some extra devs on epochEither way, I have enjoyed my journey to 60 and probably will fuck around for 2-3 more weeks and then check in from time to time in hopes they have addressed the many issues.
>>539058738not the C&D itself, kays response
>>539058612How is it a bandaid? The 100g is still a high cost and the only thing that changes is that it allows people to do the harder endgame dungeons from level 55 onward and for healers / tanks to not be completely fucked in regards of farming resources once the dungeons are hard enough to require the specs
>>539058738Epoch is by far the least impressive of all the classic+ server projects.Turtle has 8 years of development going for it and 2.0 by end of yearBBC+ is so wildly different from everything else it has an appealConquest of Azeroth has 21 custom classes, new zones, new quests etc.Azeroth at War has custom zones, custom races, a whole new class with zero monetizationWALL is doing crazy stuffall of these will be launched in the next 6 monthswtf does Epoch have going for it?
>>539059182Sure those projects are impressive in their scope but epoch is available right now. We can see it with all its good and bad sides while the projects mentioned are not accessible and aren't getting tested thoroughly like epoch currently.Not to say they can't be great but I will believe it once I see it
>>539059296Turtle is available now and it has 13 custom zones, 8 new dungeons, 3 new raids and thousands of new quests. What's the appeal of Epoch at this point? >Muh 3.3.5 client??? Clearly that's not enough based on how fast the server population is dropping.
>>539059182not that guy but crazy shit and extra races and classes are not a draw at all. new zones might be nice but a lot of vanilla zones were shit so its not like theres some gold standard that needs to be met. vanilla-like gameplay, even when incompetently implemented, is key.
>>539059182epoch had shit going for it but they ruined it with both launches being horrible and it STILL being full of bugs
>>539059415>Custom content is not appealing in Classic+Why not just play the anniversary servers then?
>>539059496classic is farther from vanilla than just being wotlk. blizzard has never repeated vanilla and will never ever ever try.
>>539058949>The 100g is still a high costno it isn’t, it’s very low, and anyone who wants it can have it before 60it’s low to the point you can ask people to get it instead of playing what they want
welp.
big blue horsecunny soonhttps://files.catbox.moe/n890uk.png
>>539059696
>>539059393Okay, I have to admit turtle is something I won't touch because I already played on Crogge's server way back then and have seen the shit he pulls. Also the cash shop is terrible. Speaking contentwise: class balance and pvp is dead on turtle. From what I heard paladin is the hero class getting everything while other classes are just left in the dust. From what I have seen the end game pve is already solved and done three times over while they are adding more leveling zones for some reason
>>539059808eh, this was my own fault. I can't be mad.
>>539059613I guess we just have to agree to disagree. I don't see any value being added in forcing players into weird hybrid specs if they want to do more than one thing in the game
>>539059864i encountered that guy once on my solo server so i'm always extra careful around that area, i don't even play HC but dying sucks
i really love the new rares even if i die more often, i aint iron manning that shit though
>>539059696At first i wondered how you can be this bad at the game but then i saw your name and realized its because you're a stupid faggot
join dindus they saidthey have numeric superiority they saidthe green tide will plot out her purple skin they saidi'm fucking sprinting for that faction change thing after this
>>539060118>t. lynchpedos
>>539060091thats not a new rare you dumb discord tranny
>>539060017so now we’ve completely dropped the cost point and it’s all or nothing? either it’s 100g or your forced to play hybrid?would you ever consider the players that are forced NOT to play hybdrid, ever? why are hybrid specs even possible? was the game just designed wrong from the start? was it designed by accident?
MANY HOLY WARRIORS ON GURUBASHI HAVE ALREADY CLAIMED THE JUST REWARDS OF PURGING THE DRUID, DO ALL A SERVICE AND CAMP EVERY DRUID YOU SEE ON GURUBASHI, JUSTIICE FOR BEING FORCED TO PLAY DRUID SONG GULCH TO EARN PVP GEARIF YOU PROVIDE SCREENSHOT PROOF OF 3 KILLS ON THE SAME DRUID TO MOOMANTEN (horde side), OR ON THE OFFICIAL BOUNTY THREAD ON THE UNOFFICIAL GURUBASHI SHITCORD, OR BY SHITCORD DM, YOU WILL EARN 3G
>>539060017Hybrids and vanilla go hand in hand though, very not weird anywhere that isn't epoch.
>>539052909Bronzebeard waiting room
>>539060570what happened for you to be this buttmaddid you get kited to death with roots?
>>539060717sucks at WSG sounds like, he's spamming on an alliance alt too lol
>>539060717not him but its a known fact that druid players are the most degenerate and disgusting wow player there are.furries can burn in the deepest hell. they're all mentally ill and a danger to themselves and others.WSG was designed for furries by furries and is the worst bg in the game and its not even close.Druid players are subhumans that don't deserve to breathe the same air as the rest of us.
>>539060868clearly him and druids are less furry than tauren
>>539060957absolutely not him.druid players ARE furries you faggot moron. Kill yourself.
>when you're in an obnoxious faggot competition and you're up against a 40k fan
>can't find any groups for elite quests anymoreYeah I'm getting tired of this server.It's not even the lowered pop, retards rush to 60 to spam dungeons, because they're conditioned classic andies and they don't realize some of the best gear is not found there.
So why does wrath client display resists as misses again?
alright, one more attempt.
kezan horde is full of retards and assholes>>539061623you should probably play a better game at this point
>>539060404I don't feel like I lose anything on my dps class if the tanks and healers get better specs but like I said we can only agree to disagree>>539060602Yeah, I'm definitely not a vanilla purist. If there are improvements to made I'm happy to see them made
>>539061716I greatly prefer the vanilla style talent trees. Capstones aren't even a very good value most of the time.
>>539061623>more ultra-faggy names from a faggotdo you work at being this literally gay or does it come naturally100% you've tried to groom some underage player on discord before with your anime girl avatar.
>>539061961you seem triggered.
>>539061961are you still mad that the gurubashi server discord e-tranny rejected you
>>539060717>>539060794If you're too retarded to realize that druids are absolute overpowered cancer as a flag carrier in wsg, and that the only way to get pvp gear on this server is playing wsg then you're probably the target of my bounty.
>>539061601that's how it is in tbc and beyond
>>539062237its not difficult to carry a flag with most classes, druids are the best but nobody on gurubashi is any good so that doesnt mean fuck all
>>539062321Kekzan player's opinions don't matter.
>>539062237>Rogues gangbanged my hunter a million times and its the druids fault
>>539058738>with the promise of the devs they would be very active in fixing and balancing those issueswhat devs lmaogaytotes and co are bitchmade and fucked off scared shitlessthe ASSenscion crew will never prioritize this shitshow over their own hugely populated realms that are already filled with whales, it brings them millions, why botherespecially since bbc+ releases now too, epoch is nothing but an afterthought
>>539062441I've only played guru but both factions are a clown show in WSG. Frankly the only opinions that should matter are the ones going premade into WSG. Everyone else is shitters.
>>539062575Premades on guru are literally just bullying a druid to carry you because a not retarded feral druid is free wins
>>539062823you clearly have no idea how a druid plays if you think spec even matters, if you're not running from a premade you could do it just as easily with a rogue or mage or maybe a pally. Pally is more CC in general.
>roll priest only to throw people off boats/zeppelins>everyone just uses teleports instead of boats
Cuckpoch is quite literally incapable if making something with so much soul
>>539063075
>>539063117>everyone just uses teleports instead of boatsClown town, can't get boats, trams or zepplins work. Did they delete the wagons?
>>539063474teleport guys replace boat routes that would have gone to stormwind harbor, they added 1 new boat but also have a buggy teleport guy that just sends you to SW instead of southshore like it says (this is a hax) and the carts work fine but mostly go to places without flight paths or boats.
>>539059696nyoooooooo ;_;
>>539063075more CC resistant*
>open the rogue discord>the first message i see is "don't get discouraged"
Anyone with more technical knowhow can tell me why former Epoch devs put a "fixed" status in their changelog for Deadly Poison, Execute and Primal Fury and NONE of these things work to this day? Meanwhile Ascension devs who I reported these bugs to closed the tickets as duplicate and re-raised them on Epoch's github bug tracker saying they can't replicate them.Now Epoch devs are gone and no one even tries to fix those urging class bugs, not a single one.Like how to fuck is that even possible is the server unfixable because of some broken code kaytotes cooked up in chatgtp?
>>539064673What's wrong with deadly poison?
>>539064513Yeah, after playing rogue a bunch in the end-game dungeons it's very clear that the power increases of players through tbc / wrath talents is way too high for rogue to be useful.Sure you can sap a target, stunlock and solo tank the caster mob but in most cases the damage is just so high that there is no need for the utility whatsoever. Rogues currently are IEA bots in raids unless the boss fights in raid take so long that the sustained long-term damage makes a difference. Still holding out the hope that there will be balance patches to address these issues
>>539065075>holding out the hope that there will be balance patches
>>539061478I mean people just drop which is natural but also those who persisted are now close to hitting 60. Yesterday there was more people in the 40-60 bracket than the 1-39 bracket on Guru. Even then I went to Lakeshire to help my dad with elite quests and the castle was full of allies. At the end of it some random group of horde guys killed us because they came to Lakeshire to defend their castle lol. But yeah meta evolved people no longer group with other low levels and just ask their lvl 60 guild mates to boost them through content
>>539065174Yeah, yeah, I know, I know.There is just nothing better to do until bronzebeard.
>>539064673Since about 9th of September they stopped checking bugtracker for Epoch. They put some intern on the quest fixing duty or it's a talentless Epoch member hiding in the shadows. Either way don't count on class balance bugs being fixed any time soon.
>>539065601didnt they JUST set up this bug report addon thing?
>>539060676>BronzebeardDespite constant tard babywatching i had a decent time as prot paladin in epoch how on paper are paladins in bronzebeard?
>feel pretty strong by comfortably killing 2 mobs at the same time>prot pally waddles in, pulls 5+ and aoes it all down with no sweatvanilla balance my ass
I wonder if coin collector anon got all the coins
>>539066143>pull one orange mob>die
>>539066343>2 yellow mobs kill me while applying the most cancerous debuffs known to man>5 green mobs pose no dangerHonestly they shouldn't touch classic scaling, I'm fine with harder dungeons and endgame raids but the leveling mobs having 20% extra armor/hp/resistances made this server extra starved for healers. I saw one GMM group looking 2 hours for a healer
>>539059726fucking based blue cunny
>>539066517horde? i can imagine horde cunts never wanting to heal. alliance has kind of a surplus, zero tanks though.
Are the "slayer" type enchants actually used beyond their weapon glow?
Thousands of bots clash as the five players on the server ignore the pointless set piece world PvP battlegrounds. Players have sworn not to kill one another to hoard loot from their rivals. Amongst them all, VVall’s clique of Hell’s Angels white supremacist prison wives rule the world with an iron fist. His fortress in the heart of Northrend, that one must spend 300 hours grinding points for carpentry to build a boat to get to, is impregnable. And so, surrounded by sycophants that are rejected the moment they disagree with lord VVall, our little world is secure from the tranime profile pictures that made us seethe so we ban them outright, the Euroneets that we banned on the principle of them being jobless losers, despite giving us hundreds a month to maintain our living conditions(VVall does not NEED a job, hypocrite!), and the globohomo glowies that totally exist and have poisoned the water so VVall drinks only the finest of Redbull energy drinks from his goblet to stave off our divine thirst.
>>539066586Guru's alliance. I some prot paladins.
>>539066517paladin druid and shaman are easy as fuck to level and holy priest is unironically decent(not shadow tho LMAO)
>>539066835not him but i think i'm shamantarded, i've never managed to level one past like 30 and its so fucking miserable.
>>539066589demonslaying is actually pretty fucking strongthats the only one tho
>>539066143Prot palas could do that in vanilla
>Every fucking custom mob in Tanaris has a 2 sec stun followed by 5 second disarmI wish I was playing a braindead caster or huntard right now.
>>539066927on this server windfury proc rate is sky high(36%) and you get water shield super low levelhonestly tbc enh is one of the easier to level and epoch shaman is far stronger than normal tbc
>>539067068>>539066143non-prot palas could do it in vanilla, given a long enough time span
>>539067115I meant with normal gear, aoe leveling is a thing for prot paladins
I would've been level 60 and grinding out my prebis this weekend if it weren't for the C&D announcement killing all my excitement
>>539067384retard nigger
>Some mad zugzug nigger chasing me at lvl 52 after I deleted his lvl 49 friend who attacked me thinking I'm an easy target at 45Lmao
>>539067338when a holy pala cant get a group its hours of>ow>ow>ow>full heal holy lighttil they win
Don't you guys think the no multibox policy is too restrictive? It's so convenient to log 2 characters like having en enchanter alt. Actual multiboxers are fairly rare and could be monitored easily.
>>539067686Shut up cuh iv I eva catch yo ass multiboxing imma report yo ass cuh fr
>>539067686nah, i'm not hardcore against it or anything but it just never occurred to me to multibox because its a multiplayer game
>>539067686retard its a 20 year old f2p game, every fucking idiot will be rolling in a 5 man multibox party
>Every retarded shaman on the server now abuses the rockbiter on mh still procing from wf on ohfuck this server
>>539067875so what? why is that your business?
>>539067686Then you might as well allow a single character to have professions and keep multiboxing banned
>>539067938use /w and ask some other player for things you autist or get the rope
>>539067928it's my business when they one tap me in pvp
>>539068007Retarded ESL responding to my post with irrelevant opinions because he's got no sentence comprehension. I was pointing out that multiboxing for professions is retarded because then you might as well give everyone all professions, you stupid brown monkey.
>Samantha Swifthoof has a custom quest chain for horde that give you boots with a run speed equip effect on themSupremely comfy.
>>539067787That's not true. You haven't played a lot of private servers. Even people playing 5 characters of the same class aren't a common occurrence. >>539067938Honestly why not? Only problem to me is that professions are too easy to level. The only thing giving some exclusivity is the level 35 requirement. If it presented somewhat a challenge and/or cost to level them it would be fine.
Feels like weeks of ass raping in wsg rly made horde docile in open world. In the past I wouldnt be able to step into contested zone. Now people 5 lvls higher than me politely wait till I finish my quest.
When does the weekly WSG victories quest reset? 7 days after you hand it in, or a set day each week?
>>539068363The same day raids reset.
>>539068493Tuesday then? Damn. Might not be worth sitting idle with my rested exp for a quest that only awarded 250 rep.
>>539067686Didn't they soften up the rules, allowing you to have a second account as long as the characters stays in the capital?
It's nyover.....
I'm kind of embarrassed to have played this and actually got to 60.
>>539067686Nah, get fucked
>>539069248But at least you had fun along the way right?
>>539069542h-haha...
>>539069542>But at least you had fun along the way right?
Got the emerald whelpling pet tonight so I'm pretty happy about that.
>Got 2 level 50 characters now and a level 30 warlock>Keep delaying the lvl 60 bit because I know there's no endgame, pvp is dogshit on this server due to bugs and broken pvp gear and raidlogging in general isn't fun... fuck
>>539070134I'd be more inclined to having alts if I could help the with my main like on Turtle. In here you can't even login on 2nd account at the same time without risking a ban, it's a fucking waste of time.
>>539070067grats on the 30g buyout
>>539070291Having multiple characters to help yourself is just cheating. Play on a server that allows you to have all professions and just gives you all buffs through an npc if you're this mentally ill
>>539070474I think you misunderstood.
>>539070474No one would buy my Black Whelpling for even 10g
>>539070592no i think you're the one misunderstanding here. you just spent hours(?) grinding a single mob over and over and over for a pet that you can grab on the auction house for 30-40 gold
pet battles when
>>539070719just watch bots argue in this thread
>>539070670You're no fun
>>539070670Only took like 2 hours.
>>539070591Outside of the fact that I never multiboxed because I don't see the point of it you do sound like a deranged reddit trannie seething because someone has the technical knowhow or enough time to set it up or have multiple accounts with max levels.
>die in frostmane hold cave>get sent to the spirit healer thats right on top of the lv1 gnome starting zone>have to walk out of the cave, through the gnome starting zone, through chill breeze valley, back into frostmane hold and into the cave
I love that enslave demon never breaks before the 5 min timer runs out. It went from being a spell I would never use because fuck having your pet attack you 2 mins into a fight to a spell I whip out every time I see a demon elite in my quest area.
>>539071112same shit happens in mulgore, when you're in the northern part of brambleblade ravine, and you have to walk all the away around the fucking wall to the west and back
people keep talking about some gurubashi discord, is there one?
which questing addon has a better database? questie or ack-quest
>>539070670>dude you can just buy it on the AHTarget farming rare items is fun you bozo, it's not always about efficiency.
>>539071594since pfQuest got un-acked, i think it's better
>>539071594questie is awful on every level before taking database into account, i dont remember pfquest but someone said they updated the pfquest-epoch version so probably that.
>update pfquest-epoch>get a 1 second freeze whenever a quest objective updates
>>539070719How would pet battles work in Banilla?
whats a good cheap or easily farmable slut glam for my nelfie
>>539071967bandit gloves, black whelp boots, black mageweave leggings and the tunic
>>539053949>only 2kTurtle won so hard its unreal
>>539072076thats fine, even if epoch loses i wont go there
>>539072179makes you wonder why the turtle spambot thinks turtle is an alternative to epoch. the 3.3.5 client is already ancient but at least it is usable for the most part. but 1.12's entire options menu fits on half a screen because it is so incredibly more old and worse by a lot, with the only redeeming quality being *checks notes* that you basically have no protected lua functions so you can bot it as hard as you want which *checks notes again* you can do in 3.3.5 as well by just hex editing the exe
>>539071967hnng
>>539072835silly nelfie gooner
The beta testing is over, after the wipe we can start playing the game for real.
wipe my ass
patch notes?
>>539073520rogue is still shit
>>539073586Yeah but my human female rogue is still sexy as hell
>>539073520>patch notes?more like gay totes
>>539073586that's a given but what about the rest?
>>539073684stop pickpocketting my penis
what the fuck is going on in this ascension discord???
>>539073586>rogue is still shit>the class that got the most OP shit from TBC and wotlk
female humaaaaansmy cooooock
No
>>539073918south americans
>>539073918it's over in more ways than you can imagineturtle always wins baby
>>539073919what op shit?
>>539073947mommy
Any horde paladin anon remember the amount of gold+mats needed for the epic mount questline?
>>539073918Based, get rid of these brown ESLs acting up like they're NPCs reading off an indian call center script.
>>539073919Max rank garrote doesn't even have silence lol
>>539073985>>539074000>>539074175i think both these guys might be retards desu
>>539073919yeah cloak of shadows is really good at helping me run away from every encounter because i cant win any of them
>>539074348Dude's got more patience than I do. I would've just immediately banned this guy if I saw someone type like this.
>>539074348truth nuke
>>539074348guru people have been this retarded on the epoch discord since launch, the pvp feedback threads are full of them
The biggest failure of epoch was trying to cater even just a little bit to the pvp brownoids
>>539075260Is that why 90% of people from here rolled on guru?
the rEaL pVpErS on the epoch discord just keep wishing for retail shit theyre beyond retarded and should kill themselves instead of ruining classic+
How am I supposed to buy anything in the shop if I can't do so anonymously? I don't think I could trust russians with that kind of information
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NnvUdzn8p2sits over...
>>539075305>90% of people from here rolled on guru
i just learned that SoD apparently had tons of + content including new dungeons raids zones and spellswtf why did no one tell me we had classic+ all al,ong
whats the best pet for leveling?boar?
>>539076029lots of them rerolled on kekzan after crying in thread about wpvp
>>539076116chupacabra
>>539076075because it's an inferior version of Ascension, which existed prior to SoD
if i hide my helmet display in settings, does it still show up for others?
>>539076424No
>bronzebeard waiting room
>>539076204Because in their fantasies they're only winning side of wpvp.
>>539076075People are tired of the seasonal fomo format.MMORPGs used to have a lasting appeal.When I invest hundreds of hours on my character I want to be able to play it for years, not until the "season" is over.Keep that shit in Diablo-likes.
thoughts on arcane mage?
>>539076075Because Blizzard panders to their parse/paypig/eceleb trinity of cancerous players who kill the game and each phase in SoD was like 30-45 days long tops.
>>539077232>>539076871so what's the dream? how would you want blizz to handle classic+
>>539077223FunGlad it's viable at lastFrost still needs to be nuked from orbit though
>>539077314Ban data mining. C&D Wowhead, Icy Veins etc.Ban most data/raiding addons, leave only interface/QoL shit.Actually ban bots, gdkp, boosting services etc. And I mean perma ban across entire account including retail characters.Create lots of custom quests, hidden secrets like treasures in MoP etc. New dungeons, new mechanics on existing dungeons etc.Make content including open world named mobs and elites hard enough to force your average keyboard turning boomer to group with others.Release content at a slower pace so people don't feel like they're perma behind and have time to explore all of this without following a braindead guide.Now none of this would ever happen because blizzard loves money above anything else, but that's my perfect version of classic+.
>>539077550>Frost still needs to be nuked from orbit thoughI know, it's just so bad. Maybe... maybe they should buff it and give it like a 20% increase slow on chill and make it last like 3 seconds longer... it's just so bad, they should do these buffs right now
lotta interesting characters on this ascension discord thats for sure
>>539077882my mom said aoe farmers go to hell
I saw a mage die while trying to aoe farm a couple days agoI didn't rez him, he deserved to walk
does horde have a rep like auberdine early on or are they cucked
>>539078468yeah sepulcher or something in the silerpine forest
>>539078172>my mom said aoe farmers go to hellAoE farming mobs? Oh, I don't mean mobs at all...
>1k needles has copper and mithril nodes next to eachotheractuall full retard devs
>Die in a cave>Receive a ressurction from someone>It is an enemy shaman that kills meKek
>>539078756fucking lmaonow this is tomfoolery
>>539078675oh sweet that lets me recoup mining xp if I missed out on it in earlier zones, really smart
>>539078675you mean the original blizzard devs or what?
>>539078990The easiest way to level mining is to find elementals and mine them
>>539080104not even a lot of elementals in the world, engineeeering though that shit is crazy fast leveling
>>539080104yes I know and you can level engineering from 0 to 120 on the westfall reavers, but I think it's nice that the blizzard devs put that in before all of that to have multiple sources in later zones to get lower tier mats
>>539078756Massively outskilled
will the ai sloppers make wow blacked porn to celebrate brate the launch of bbc? only reason i come to these threads so i can come to these threads if you know what i mean
>>539081007yes, once bbc+ servers launch for real
>>539078756did he use rank 1 rez as well?
>even whitemane slopper is goneits over
>>539081338Of course he did.
>>539081007I hope so, I love BBC+
>>539074348>BBC will be 10x betterlmaoEpoch's coding is trash, but their custom content is top tierBBC's coding will be great, but it's custom content will be trashmeanwhile turtlewow is both perfectly coded AND has a shit ton of cremme de la cremme custom content
>>539082602BBC's custom content in the starting zone alone is better than anything Epoch made
>>539082392We're waiting for BBC+ to get up
>>539082392He had a meltie over the gold he sent to the wrong character. Then again this server is so fucking broken nothing would surprise me anymore.
>>539082602Too bad I can't get over their dogshit 1.12.1 client and basic QoL features you realize are missing from basic vanilla client.
if you need to relentlessly advertise your product it's not a good product
>>539083197>dogshit old client with obnoxious cash shop mounts vs dogshit bugged server where half of the quests and class talents don't work2025 really served us dogshit
>>539083197Wait, are you serious? Bronzebeard runs on 1.12? Guess I'm sticking to fucking epoch and pray it improves
>>539083610Bronzebeard is on 3.3.5, he's replying to the Turtle part
>>539083610No u reading comprehensionlet, I'm talking about turtle in response to the other anon shilling it.
>>539083197I had a look at their talents, turtle really would be the perfect server if they ran it on 3.3.5
>>539083870I always thought they were using the modern classic client with how hard it was getting shilled, but that old ass client is unplayable and I still play ultima online and star wars galaxies so the bar isn't that high for me
Funny thing is that turtle could spend those years they wasted on creating their OG donutsteel UE client and port their existing custom content to 3.3.5 client, capturing the 70k people who crave classic+ with modern QoL features missing from 1.12.1 Instead they spent god knows how many manhours and how much cash on a dogshit engine that looks like shit, probably runs like shit and will take another 5 years to fix basic issues.
>>539082602I didn't play BBC+ long but just loooking at Northshire I'd say it blows the fuck out of Epoch. Too bad all the cool stuff will be ruined by the slop store soon after it gets released.
>>539085038who really cares about cosmetics
>>539084274idk if 3.3.5 would be as easy as custom UE shit
>>539082602>Epoch's coding is trash, but their custom content is top tieroxymoron>turtlewow is both perfectly coded AND has a shit ton of cremme de la cremme custom contentah you were just shitposting
What causes Ziggers to get so upset at BBC+?
??????????????
>>539085385and deposit's up to what, 2.50?
>>539085667dunno. but yes, these must be the people whining about high deposit prices
Is there a list of quests for Glittermurk Mines?
>>539085667>>539085934these morons are selling shit for less than what it vendors for and then they list it for 72 hours, you have to try to be this dumb
Any reason why Guru's AH is so fucking dead? There's almost 0 weapons and gear posted past level 40.
Enh seems to be destroying everyone in the 30-39 bracket, is it the same at higher lvls?
>>539086271it's funny that the epoch version of auctioneer has it disabled by default that you can sell shit below vendor price. I think its an excellent retard check
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2BXbpfKnRKcBlizzcucks BTFO
>>539086545yes, people abuse the wf/rockbiter bug when playing 1handers so you literally wield a 2h weapon in one hand while having a offhand that keeps procing windfury on it.
>>539086519Because the population is down to 3.5k peaks and 2k lows, if you're alliance that means you have about 1k or less people listing auctions you can buy
so why would i make a character on epoch now that bbc is comingis there anything that ePOCh can do that the bbc cannot?
Is there any upgrades for the pvp gear past level 55?
we lost like 1k online in last week alone compared to previous Sunday. I might honestly not bother with hitting lvl 60.
>>539087273no, thats why you should sell always sell the pvp gear once the timer is about to run out, then rebuy it, until you're high enough so you can drop the pvp gear and keep all the marks
>>539087273If Arena ever gets added that'll be the upgraded version, but I doubt they're ever putting it in
>>539086519Nobody buys any of the gear I put up even at low prices and the deposits are high so it is faster just to vendor them.
My pet isn't gaining ability points, and I can't even access the tab anymore. What am I doing wrong?
>>539087492is it garbage? i top up my gear every time i get into a nice spot in pvp bracket
>>539087541Is it unhappy? Did you try to make it happy yet?
>>539087273honor gear only releases with s1 and the other bgs, probably no connection to current mark gear
>>539087541Playing hunter
>>539087648It's very happy, I feed it meat every day.
well?
>>539087368I think a lot of people are waiting to see if there's a real dev plan for the server long term before committing more time playing, I took a break also but if they put out dates for content releases and actually start fixing class bugs I'll play again
>>539087541>ability pointsnigga whatpets get new abilities automatically
>>539087870the collective brain damage caused by nostalrius cannot be understated
>>539087541You don't get any pet skill points until level 20. The pet talent trees sounded cooler than it actually is. You get 1 tbc 'capstone' skill and less vanilla skills, so if you want more stamina, you will have to sacrifice armor and resistances, that you would've normally been able to grab.
Is Bronzebeard even Classic+?
>>539087870There are less people logging in, by a lot and the quality of people is also lessened too. Epoch lost a big chunk of the classic loving normies to twow.
>>539088234Yes, that's what the plus means. Not the piss poor attempt of Blizzard with "uhhhhh let's give this mob 10% more hp"
>>539088000I really dont want to go back to the pop of emerald dream desu, nost brain any day of the week
>>539088292>epoch boss design>5-7x more hp>unavoidable aoe attacksis this sovl?
>>539088292Progression towards wrath is classic+? I don't think anyone wanted that lil bro.
Is /wowcg/ gone ... ?
>>539088549Weird, because that's exactly how it works on official Classic
>raids are still 2-3 months away>less people logging on each day in my guildIdk if we're killing Rag bros
wait, whats BBC release date?
>turtle gets lawsuit worth of billions>they just go "lmao didnt read, and yes all of our money will go to killing nafotroons Z">pocshit gets a c d>immediately shits the bed with the mounthbreathing uk retard trying to appear sympatheticif you play on this cuckold server you deserve it
>>539088790>blizzard does it therefore it's the official definitionblizzard doesn't have classic+ servers
>>539086519I blame the pvp gear. Besides weapons and blues no one wants greens because the PVP gear is just infinitely more useful AND scales due to the upgrade system. I'm hoping crafting picks up again at late game because low level crafting is just vendoring/disenchanting whatever you make.
>>539088896Within the next month is the plan, no concrete date yet
>>539088786all 2 of the cg posters shit up this thread instead
>>539089058as a bonus they're also shitting up trash with constant twow spam
>>539088912lil ivan, you're taking it too serious, we're not the ones who will get tortured by the FSB if ascension keeps winning
>>539088234Their main servers haven't gotten to wotlk in a decade so I don't think you can expect bronzebeard to do so either
>>539088790official classic is Classic------
>>539088790because it's not classic+people want vanilla with new content, not vanilla that progresses to retail lite
>>539088978at least the profs got a bunch of self buffing. idk why leatherworking got so fucked though
>>539088790Blizzard also calls retail "World of Warcraft"
why is everyone here so bitchy?
>>539090687we hit 60 and there is nothing left to do
>t0,5 paladin set actually increases the cooldown of taunt by 2 seconds instead of decreasing itebin simply ebin
>>539089313im hungarian
>>539090181What happened to leatherworkers? Are they just stuck with armor kits and nothing else?Even enchanters got buffs which I'm not sure they even needed. Probably a strong contender for the number 2 slot of best vanilla profession anyways.
>>539091067Made over 350 selling cured rugged hide
>>539053976Is this real? I can't find it in the changelog. I might be both blind and retarded though, plenty of evidence for that.
>>539091067their self buff only lasts an hour, nothing huge.
>>539090909pretty much the same thing desu
nerf paladins
>>539090828Make an alt.
bored of pochiewhen is bronzeybearda? azeroth at war? revelationwow? world of runescape? conquest of azeroth? new ascension season? alo???
>favela drug mule monkeys screaming at me since the last 3 days for undercutting them and dumping prices>aoe farm goes brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
>>539091471already on it lmao
>>539092296This succubus looks reprehensible
>>539066517Why the fuck would you ever level as a healer? Are you retarded? You don't need to be a healing spec until you reach endgame.
>>539063474tram literally doesn't work since last update lmaothis shit is dead, abandoned project. focus will be on BBC+ only sadly.
>>539092881i dont know why that guy did it because he fucked up real bad. holy pala is strong, resto druid is hybrid into some other good spec. theyre great on their own.
>>539093002trams always worked, never broken.
>devs left>discord dead>vg thread dead>content creators left>menethil gone>guru gone soon>kezan dying>updates re-introduce fixed bugs and bring completely new ones with themI'm not a turtle shill (shit client and fuck shenna) but yeah epoch ain't it either...BBC+ is basically retail so ig we gotta wait for blizzard classic+ at this point
>>539094182retail is guaranteed to be worthless straight-into-the-trash tier that will make epoch's fiver pajeets look like elite hacker devs.
>>539094168lol go to stormwind rn, the tram is not working retard. it's also been broken before during another update but keep shillign ur dogshit kaytotes
>>539094374>the tram is not working retardcrazy that it just appeared for me, huh
>>539094637>it worked in my shard 1/10 chance!wow good for you, doesn't change the fact that it's randomly not working for hundreds of people who got unlucky phasing
>>539094763thats a completely different thing you retard monkey nothing to do with trams.
>>539094763you dont have to be here just to spam the thread about lies you know? if you hate the game just leave the thread and go to your turtlewow spam thread
>if you faction change you get access to all fpshehe suckers
>>539059296>he continues to engage the troondle shills
>>539071828>He fell for benny's ego projectdeserved, merited, requited even.
>>539094182Epoch was so close to having it. If only they didn't pussy out.
>>539091765funny how out of all of those azeroth at war sounds the best
Taking this thing with a 15 kiloton warhead to noshoes capital and ending this war today.
>>539098406kek
>>539094182I was really hoping for some sort of announcement or update this weekend to remove this server from the limbo it's at
>>539098406why doesnt the alliance actually use these stuff ever thouighthey have like 10 panzer army worth of dwarven tanks in av alone
>>539099785Don't expect anything for a while, they're focused more on launching BBC since that's coming out in the next couple of weeks
>>539101025devs couldn't code vehicles for vanilla (thank fuck)
>azeroth at warI’m not playing with transmog
>>539099785ascension jews want the epoch population to switch to bbc, its a known fact
>>539088790Blizzard doesn't have a Classic+ server though, are you fucking retarded or something?
can someone please tell me what are the available lorewalker achievements that are not bugged at the moment on Epoch and can actually be completed?
and didn't even need lay on hands!
Do rich thorium veins even work properly? I can mine them 2-3 times at most while only getting more dense stone and sometimes a crystal
>>539102976come to redridge and ill gank you
stupid low lvl warmodders cry in whispers when i murder them hahahahha bitch you opted into this now suffer!!
>some rogue has been looking for a magie for scholo jump run for over an houryou'd have already cleared the place with normal run
>>539103912>normal runyou literally cant fill groups right now for any dungeons the server feels so fucking dead
how the fuck are you supposed to kill a hunter, druid, warrior, rogue, priest, warlock, mage, shaman or paladin as a rogue?
>>539101685The dev or whatever the fuck deleted his Reddit account and a recent-ish post where he apologized for the delays and said something along the lines of 'it should be ready soon'. I wouldn't keep my hopes up.
>>539104186rogue: get the openerother classes: hope somebody with damage is close by to kill the player while you stunlock
>>539104186attack them when they are at 10%
stopped playing after launch, what's new
>>539104660it's only gotten worse
>>539104851what's the next big wow fresh?
>>539105005BBC in the next month
>>539105005there isnt one
when's the next big mmo fresh?
>>539103912You really notice that there are way too many retail tourists on the server because everyone is asking for class X to complete there group when there is no need for specific comps since the dungeons are piss easy. Also way too many X HR runs in global too
>>539105176riot's mmo anything else is doa
>>539105360Riot's MMO has been in devhell since Ghostcrawler left, its never coming out
>>539105360guild wars 3?
can we get another MnM playtets plase
>>539105260this so much thiswe run a dungeon with two rogues, ret, bear tank and hpal no problempeople are retarded
>>539105360pretty sure it was canceled.
>>539105575they need to build another empty labyrinth first (called a town)
>>539105575I tried it and I know I will get called a zoomer for this, but the game is retarded and if they don't change some stuff it will be doa.
At some points it's not even funny anymore
>>539105674to be desu you mock them but I actually have faith. P*ntheon has managed to produce exactly zero (0) new zones, or finish any existing zones, since going to an early access but in MnM I can see the progress between tests.Two playtests ago the woodelf starting zone was horrible, all textures looked straight out of 99 and npcs were standing on rows next to spawn point and the city was almost completely empty and mobs were randomly spawned around the zone with no rhyme or reason.With the latest playtest textures were greatly improved, city was populated, mobs around the zone were nicely in their own camps and they added gathering nodes etc stuff so they are actually doing at least some dev work.
I'm in
Server is dead brehs..
>>539106421let me guess, he's a warrior?
>>539106762His name is class colored
>>539106762His name is brown, take a guess
>>539106762>brown nameI don't know, you tell me
>>539106923i just asked to let me guess in the post you are replying to idiot
Whats with all the roadmap screeching in the discord?
rather disappointing, nothing here. might even be a wotlk thing for all I know.
I picked up a lot of lootboxes running through stockades but they don't seem to have anything interesting, do they only start getting fun once you go through GMM or ZF?
>>539106992People rightfully feel that after the C&D disappearance of the original dev team project epoch has been put on the back burner as waiting room for bronzebeard
>>539085385>>539086554I wonder when (or if) Jade will ever recover considering most people do just do the automatic 1c-5c undercut and call it a day.
>>539107253You mostly get them to level lock picking and maybe get a luck gut ripper
>>539105360that isn't getting released this decade
>>539107037yeah, that's the DK starting area.
>>539107253whats the ideal level for stockades with sub talents?
>instantly shifting into ghost wolf ignores existing movement impairing effects????????????????????????????
what's the population on Epoch like?
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAACK
>>539107914it's alright if you don't have brain damage from nost
>managed to do GMM right on timewhew
>get epic mount>server diesahh
>instantly shifting into ghost wolf ignores existing movement impairing effectswhat is this horse shit
>>539107816I wasn't discovered when I ran through it at 24, but I also didn't get much value out of my pickpocketinggot 20 something boxes and they all had 1s each, pickpocketed however many mobs were in there for another 1s per mob or so. Decently fast money but with no chance of hitting it big from what I can tell. Also didn't get any lockpicking skillups
>>539108016not familiar with nost, what do you mean?
>>539108114I could be wrong but I think Ghost Wolf has a "cannot be reduced below 100% movespeed" thing.
why in the fuck can't i find a party for scarlet monastery as a healer
>>539108494the main population is already in the 50-60 level range
Well, this is where my Epoch journey ends. This server had so much potential and so much soul and it has all been squandered. Population declining daily, no bug fixes, no communication. Really not sure what is going on behind the scenes but I really have no faith in this server anymore. See you guys in the next fresh.
>>539108270Typically, people who played on Nost have the habit of thinking that <10k or so concurrent players online = dead server
>>539108494You're behind the curve on a server that's dropping players daily, not many people are bothering making alts to keep lower level dungeons happen
>>539108593>>539108731stupid fucking retarded posters
>>539108818>hey why can't I find SM runs>because there's little people at that level range still>NOOOO SHUT UP RETARDWhy even ask
>>539108818every non-fresh server has a bigger endgame population than new players. it's normal you freak
>no bug fixesI too enjoy being a willingly blind mongoloid.
>>539108494anything before level 50 is impossible to find a group fori spent 3 hours looking for a deadmines group yesterday and just fucking gave up there must not be any influx of new players due to the staff quitting and saying the server is shutting down or some shit. fucking retarded
>>539108940>>539108957but is not that you mongoloid as soon as I used the lfg addon i got a party hurdururrrrr the curve hur durrr new players
>>53910894031-40 is the most populous level range at this moment in time you inbred faggot
>>539109203ignore the retarded apes
>>539109203Post proof
TBC FRESH WHEN
>>539109346post proof of you not being a tranny faggot
>>539109048Why lie?Why lie about easily disproven things no less?Right now, LFG is flooded with people looking for DM, SM, stockades and WC
>>539109445nta but >asking for pics of another mans dickkinda gay.
>ascension devs being handed the most promising private server in private server historyyeaaah im out
>Kill the hydra and bring back three heads for meKek
>>539109608okay tranny
>>539109512so why is it impossible to find a group if there are so many people looking? i have seen the same "people" looking for groups for the past couple hours without them ever fillingi would suspect they are populating chat at this point with bots that are just there to make the world feel like people are LFG but no groups are actually forming because im sure as fuck not seeing any
I still say that pvp gear is the biggest mistake they made, in every way.Its the best gear you can getafter the initial farm at low levels, any further upgrades are essentially free, meaning you have no reason to do dungeonsthe fact they cost marks means people will join wsg but have no reason to actually try and win because you get a mark if you lose, AND you get xp too, meaning most people will just afk
>>539109639They were handed good ideas on paper but a product so buggy that it took a miracle to even get it online after working on it for a week straight, don't pretend like Kaytotes gave them a great server from the start.
>transmog still doesn't save between sessions Yeah this shit is actually fucking useless, I'm gonna just slap on the fucking goggles and call it a day. A shame too because there are some cool looking weapons like Haunting Blade.
>turtle tranny still lyinghere's 50 seconds of LFG chat.This does not include people LFG in world, general or with addonsYou may now proceed to cope seethe dilate and then join the 41%
>>539109818they way you deal with the transmog bug is by storing whatever shit you want to transmog and pray for bank space
>>539109927guru alli right now
>>539109927that doesnt disprove what im sayingcheck back in an hour and you will see those exact same names looking for groups
>>539109946Yeah but I need the bankspace for other things, like shiny rocks
>>539110131it is a compromise that you need to make
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE IT DOESNT COUNT NO ONE IS LOOKING FOR LOW LVL DUNGEONS DEAD SERVER DEAD SERVER DEAD SERVER IM GOING TO AMBIESHITIE
>>539110189see how the epoch tranny completely loses his mind when you bring up the fact that ascension is clearly botting?
ok how the fuck do I install the lfg addon please help
>>539110303shut the fuck up zigger
>>539110352Nobody uses that shit anyway, use the bulletin board addon.
not counting the two 60s there is 20 people in the whole of scarlet monastery on guru alliance. That means that at peak time there is only 4 groups.
>>539110189this but unironically
>/who wailing caverns>0 players totaloh no no no no, not even a single person on the whole of guru alliance doing one of the three "new" (remodelled) dungeons at prime time
>>539110647>theres only 20>picture clearly says 74turtle trannies not sending their best
>>539110971STOP BRINGING UP THE SERVER DYING EPOCH IS THE BIGGEST PRIVATE SERVER OF ALL TIME
>>539111051this is bait but it shows horde numbers too for anyone that didn't know. here is a fitting example
>>539110647>guru alliance
>>539110575can you please guide me how to /where to get it?
>>539111487no wonder you need an addon for something as simple as finding a group lol
>have to do Green Hills of Stranglethorn for the Lorewalker cheevoWhy do you torment me so?
>>539111830just buy the pages you are missing
>>539112010im ssfhc
>>539112010Some of those pages are so fucking overpriced though
>>539112373>I made the game way more difficult, why is it being difficult?
>>539111830>have tojust don't do it then?
>>539111212uldaman is bugged so nobody wants to run it
>>539113168have they still not fixed the final boss not being lootable?
>>539113261It's Epoch, of course its still bugged
I'm just gonna casually play on the bronzebeard beta till it wipes and can start fresh with everyone else. Doomers got me
alright, let's go through this one more time.
>>539113738no.
Doesn't anyone else wanna play Turtle-WoW (https://turtle-wow.org/). It's just so refreshing and I want all blasthavers to play it now.
>>539113839why the fuck not wtf
>>539113951because its funny
what are the odds that ascension are faking /who numbers? low lvl zones are dead af
am I gimping myself if I don't start doing WSG for pvp gear? im mid 30s and haven't done a single one yet.hunter if that helps
>>539113835>in the atlas guild based beyond belief.
>>539114068bro you get to level 60 in 20 minutes. the whole appeal of Ascension is the endgame theory crafting of builds and making them really good raiders or pvpers
>>539114356>endgame theory crafting of builds and making them really good raiders or pvpersi was talking about epoch...there's no endgame on epoch rn
>>539114087It's pretty much heirloom gear and is leagues better than anything you find while leveling but it's not as good once you hit 60.
>>539114482oh I was talking about turtlewow then, they definitely fake their player numbers
Playing rogue has ruined all other classes for me. There are just so many spots you can't get past without investing a bunch of time clearing mobs. Stealth is so amazing in the open world I don't want to miss it
who is this whore they call for the whore for?
>finally got Seal of WisdomThank god.
>>539114578>oh I was talking about turtlewow thenwhy are pochie fans so adamant about bringing up twow? most twow spammers already either got banned or left of their own volition. i dont care about shenna and her dogshit server.just because pochie is slightly better than twow doesnt make it any good, being better than twow is a pretty low bar to set.
>zoomer who is struggling to install addons is still playingwe won
I was too lazy to get my backup PC from the basement, so I spent the whole Sunday playing some troon MMO on my iPad.
>>539114068>low lvl zones are dead afnigga its been almost a month
Poopie lost.
>>539115802>nigga its been almost a monthso? a month old server is still considered FRESH.
>>539115802there's also so many people that entire types of mobs are killed on spawn and you have to wait until later because there's already 2 5man groups farming them in places like westfall and redridge
>>539116015yes, but the biggest first wave of players already left starting zones and its not late enough to level alts
nooooooo i didnt kill goldtooth fast enough freshie now freshie now
>>539115850Poochie lost to BBC+
>>539109094>As soon as the addon bunched several people together I found a group that otherwise would not have invited each other because no one wants fucking 4 warriors + 1 paladin in an SM partyftfy
>>539116584get in your lane retard that was hours ago
>>539113835how fucking autisitc are you?
>>539116574Bbc better have that whole exp to gold thing because i am not gonna farm
Warrior tanking is so fucking bad why did I pick this stupid goddamn class fuck Blizzard and fuck Epoch for not buffing the threat.
>Come across a paladin that is sapped>Dismount, toss detect invisbility on him and cast rain of fire>Paladin instantly mounts when the sap runs out and bolts it>A 60 rogue in pvp gear steps outOh I've made a huge mistake
>>539116574>still no release date
>>539116708damn bro kinda don't care + kill yourself
>warriors doing their best to not tank by spouting excusesjust get a pally healer and tell them to salv nigga thats what they also do when they are tanking
>>539117238go hug your mother you piece of crap
>>539116884anon, I'm playing a hardcore on a private server.the fuck do you think?
>>539117118stealth isnt the same as invisibility anon
>There's fucking lvl56 shoeless rogues/fury warriors with magni's will and I can't get a fucking save princess group as a 59 healervery cool, why did I play this instead of just boring retail classic again if it's this same shit?
Been out of the loop, QRD on the cease and desist? Is Epoch shutting down or are they handing the keys over to Ascension to keep running it?
>Westfall has 118 people in it>STV has 300 people in it (knock off 100 for the people in Booty Bay)Seems fine to me.
>>539117203November for maximum comfy
>>539117203Playable 26/07
>mooncloth transmute 40g every 3 days>refined salt transmute 40g every 3 days>arcanite transmute 3g every 3 daysamazing and all you retards tricked me into thinking alch was good when all it does is extend the duration which is pretty much worthlesswhy did i listen to you
>>539117529it took me 10 minutes to form BRD groupunacceptable
>>539088234No after playing BB it's just Ascension wow with locked classes and alot of custom content it won't be pvp or pve it will work like this>you go to an NPC in the capital city and change between PVE (no on can attack you) PVP low risk (Mercs and opposite faction can attack you) PVP High risk (Mercs and opposite faction can attack you and you drop items equiped on you or in your bags that can be looted)You get riding at 20 (it's 6 right now in the PTE)After you get to level 60 you can use EXP pots (only effect you) or EXP scrolls (effect everyone in your group and raid) and can also prestige back to level 1 and level all over again with a larger EXP gain boost. It's not classic plus it's Ascension wow with locked classes
>>539088234no, it has level scaling and it's just like their other servers which are about rushing to max level and zerging LFD like Diablo for drops for your build. it's not classic in any sense of the word, they think it is because it's the original 9 vanilla classes.
does minor speed turn boots into soulbound?
>>539118176but wow's classic had level scaling too
>>539117898>129 people in BRDSounds like skill issue.
>>539118843>ONLY 129 peoplenost had at least several hundreds at any moment
>>539118415i don't care what normie nigger zog slop blizz cooked up
>>539119248>proceeds to chow down like a starved zogbot animal
>"LFM [group quest]">"LFM [group quest]">"LFM [group quest]">"LFM [group quest]">tell the guy to invite me>no response>"LFM [group quest]">"LFM [group quest]"
These Tauran lore scrolls are considered herbs lmao
>>539119801Several quest items are marked on the map, this isn't new to epoch
>>539119801All custom quest objects are.
>>539118972>muh nost lol okay
>>539117498anyone?
>>539117907>PrestigeDoes your lvl 60 stuff gets unequipped and you need to find proper gear again?also quests dont reset so you must be forced to grind even with the 1.5 rated
>>539119769literally no one likes weebs
>>539088234I just hit level 12 on their beta, giving an unbias non chinaman shill opinion, it's definitely a mixture of classic and modern shit. I noticed turning off transmog also made people's retarded cash shop mounts also appear like normal mounts so that's cool. At first I wasn't a fan of getting a mount in the fucking starter zone, still not a fan of it but I don't hate it yet either. It is kinda fucking crazy that I have 2 gold already and I get chat spammed with a bunch of shit that I don't even understand about "risk" npcs spawning, haven't figured out how to shut that the fuck up. It's feeling like a more acradey version of classic but it's different enough that I'll at least try it when it comes out. It's not the same 1 to 60 rat race I'm used to.
Broskies, is there some rested xp gimmick on this server or not?Something like Turtle's tents.
>>539118383h-help..?? I want to make speedy boots for my altism
>>539120580yeah you log out in a town and you get rested exp at a very slow rate
where is the 150+ fishing trainer for alliance?
simple survey for people who sperg about mounts at level 5 in ascensionare you guys gainfully employed?
>>539120580no, fortunately.
lmao what is this, I thought services were banned?
>>539121096report him desu
>>539121096stuff like boosting or guilds selling runs is but that's just an individual player advertising themselves
>>539120356no you keep all gear and quests reset
>>539121096where is the RMT, are you retarded? thats a normal advertisement
>>539121096>580 BHwhat does this mean
>>539121952If I were to guess, bonus healing, never seen anyone say that before though
>>539121096tank/healer services aren't banned
>>539122108ah you are probably right, yeah that is odd
>>539117498With buffed mobs is improved enslave demon worth taking at 60?
I just finished GMM, what did I think?
>>539117371Damn that sucks to learn after 20 years
>"Just install the lfg addon bro!">After 25 minutes it automatically forms a party with 3 dps and doesn't allow us to requeue unless one of us selects tank/healer, leaving everyone to leave and a waste of timeVERY cool
>>539120787HELLO? ANYONE ACTUALLY PLAYING THE GAME HERE?>>539122108Thats how you know its an rmting shitskinlike this one, failing the litmus test
>>539120787It is a book you buy from the fishing guy in Booty Bay
>GVRVFASHY 4.8kso what's the next troondle cope?
Tauri soonI dont think ill be reaching 60 here, bros...
Thirdies are obsessed with having 10 gorillion players on a server because it just means more targets for them to gank on their pvpaco realms. That's always what it was about.
>>539123103>No way to pull with 3 melee dpsThirdies are the best.
>>539123098holy dead
>>539122468Mad fun to enslave elite demons but I didn't find normal demons to be of much use.
>>539117498>entire original team is gone now>but one guy is still dedicated to keeping the servers up>no news on a server shut down
Is there a good spot in STV to farm the GHS pages without competing for mobs or being invite spammed?
>>539122832yeah don't use that shit, use the group bulletin board addon instead. it just parses chat for 'lfg/lfm' messages and puts them all together.
ngl, rearranging the talent trees has grown on me. I don't like using the online talent calcualtor now.
>>539123910I'm just fucking insane that I keep seeing DPS warriors/rogues fully kitted out in BRD/emperor gear at 55-56 or scholo/strath gear at 58 meanwhile I can't even fucking smell those dungeons as a 59 healer
Just make your own groups? Tanks and Healers have the ultimate privilege of having DPS dogs leap at their feet and begging for an invite.
>>539123910can you please guide me how to /where to get it?
>>539124251that's just a power fantasy, you'll just get told 59 cant heal and they are right
>>539124067let me tell you a little secret get a guild or a friend group
>>539124565It's fucking bullshit is what it is, being told by a 52 that you need to be 55 to tank/heal ST, okay then faggot you just want a carry instead of actually having to pull your weight
>>539124067imagine playing the most unfun role, healing SUCKS having to watch mana SUCKS, all your gear being useless doing anything but healing SUCKS
>Queue for a BRD emperor now that I'm 60 since I was declined from groups for being underleveled when I'm tanking or for being ret because I get it>Queue hits, 60 paladin healer, 60 ret paladin (me), 60 prot paladin, 60 enh shaman, 56 fury warrior>"3 pala will never make it lmao" goes the warrior and leavesWhy do these people not just play classic retail if they want to keep their fucking warrior privilege so bad?
Draenei fags, where do you draw the line?
>>539125528He isn't wrong, you won't be able to clear BRD with three melee
>>539125681Elaborate, I genuinely want to hear this.
>>539125645those centaurs are grossbut well groomed taurs like dryads are top tier
>>539124565if you are on Kezan, just ask in desu chat
>>539125765Magmus is completely overtuned when it comes to damage to people in melee range. No amount of "hurr durr skill issue" compensates for it unless those melees are rogues able to stun lock him the entire fight. Your healer will go oom before you are able to kill him
>>539125973I'm sorry you're shit and genuinely never learned to avoid the streams and the new puddles and think it's just "overtuned".
name the zone
>>539126073Post video proof of that exact party composition clearing him or else I will continue to call you a retard.
>>539126214burning steppes>>539126278>called out on being shit at the videogame>Uhmmmm actually I'm right and uhhh you're a retardnever change, brownie.
>>539126356>unable to provide any evidenceThat's what I thought, retard.
i have unironic insider information that gurubashi and kezan will be merged next month if the population numbers keep dropping. guru people will not be able to keep their names if its taken on kezan and will stay in permanent warmode. do with this information what you wish.
>>539052909New/returning player, why does epoch get their own general? Is it really the most popular private server? How come?
>>539126467>unwilling to indulge in third-worlder delusions>"hah I win retard GOTCHA yikes posted to my snapchat"post melanin
>>539126821See above >>539126278Retard.
>>539126214redridge?
>>539126467What level of autism do you need to have to keep an archive of BRD runs? I'm gonna guess its troon level of autism
>>539126897>>539126356wrong
>>539126860>Uhm magmus is hard because I say it's hard! Not because I'm bad at it! In fact, you're the one who has to prove it!it's so tiresome, bros. when do the europoos go to bed so I don't have to deal with these faggots anymore?
>>539126214ashenvale
>>539126729because it has enough anons playing to warrant it's own genereral
>>539126986>>539127014Here retard, let me point it out again >>539126278
>>539127118>it's even funnier if I just keep saying it!here's your (you) gamer, a little something to tide you over while you cope
>>539126214duskwood
played a bit on turtle now cause the epoch FUD is getting to me...as a hunter i miss the wrath client already bros
>>539127430>it's so easy that there's somehow absolutely zero evidence of anyone ever doing itWoah..that's crazy!Retard!
>>539053527>Shenna paying in dogecoins for these posts now
Bronzebeard is gonna have draenai, just sayin
>>539127975Waiting for the unleashing of World of Elfcraft
>>539127473Can I get a QRD on the difference between Epoch and Turtle?
>Rune of dawn does not actually allows you to loot the big stonesepoch shit
Can browns just fuck off already, Sick and tired of getting spamming by dirty shit wars. >"U TANK!? TANK SCHOLO? TANK STRAT UD!? ZUG ZUG!" Fuck off! go buy duel spec you fucking sub-human garbage. I don't give a singly flying fuck if war tanking is fucked atm, suffer through it.and even when I take leave of my senses and agree to one of these shit-stains offer, I get invited in to a group that has two paladins already in, seriously just fuck off whispering me dam it, go tank your own dungeon trash runs!
>>539126214lock modan
>>539127531refer to>>539127014
>>539128530>duel specESL
I am going to be a greedy fuck and not invite any plate wearers to Uldaman when I do it. Don't need retarded Browns or other Pallys rolling on my Uldic set pieces.
>Finally join a BRD emperor>Tank leaves because "we have no pet class"WHY ARE NIGGERS LIKE THIS
>>539126214desolace
>>539128662chest and helm never drop homey, no one wants to run the golem boss and many a group are retards for final boss>t. protadin 4 piece owner
>premake goblin engi quest stuff>go to do the quest>they changed it for no fucking reasont-thanks
is the deeprun tram working yet, or am I walking?
>>539127450correct, what a piece of shit zone. ALmost all the quests are massive time wasting pieces of shit that will make you walk between 2 ends of the map, or back to goldshite, stormwind multiple times
>>539129190lol nevermind
>>539129330remote quest turnin was the best part of cata.
>>539128995Good thing I will force people to do it (i.e. my friends)
what was the player peak today on Guru? I saw 4.8k at 8pm
>>539128530they have dual spec,its pve dps and pvp dps you would not get it
https://ascension.gg/en/news/bronzebeard-warcraft-reborn-the-next-chapter-unfolds/497So I just scrolled through what bronzebeard actually is. And jesus fuck, how does anyone consider this classic+? There is so much random extra shit thrown in.I really wonder how they are going to balance it. Also how many advantages can you buy through the cash shop? Especially looking at the cost of the mystic enchantments
>see a single tram car as I zone in>it leaves before I get there>there aren't any morewelp. guess I'm hoofing it.
>all the thread blogposters always play female charactersExplain.
>>539130381I like making men jerk off
>see a post about seeing one pass>as I type my last post, a tram suddenly leaves>it was not there before it leftaaaaaaaaAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>539129757depressing
Me when duskniggers complain about living in a cursed forest
>>539130457This.
>>539122517some rogues don't know you can distract out of stealth.I didn't learn this till late vanilla bc but the fact it other people don't know is amusing.I'm fucking old.
ACK
FUCK YEA MYHTRIL NODE GETTING RESET
pwooooooh
Man why am I still playing this buggy shit that crashes everyday
>>539131006because there is nothing else
>>539130742I spent dozens of hours in booty bay distracting people into the water.
TAKING THE KEK SWIM BACK INTO THE INSTANCE
>>539129261didn't work for me
>>539126073>just avoid the aoe 90% insta dmg to your melees you guys; while standing in the little room filled with puddles; it's that easy
>>539131652Note that he still hasn't provided that video lolRetards gonna retard
>>539130381I like girls
>Rogue ambushes me>Trinket and death coil>Rogue jumps, cloak of shadows, turns 180 degrees midair>Falls off the cliffsideWent a lot better than feared.
>>539131652>mmorpg cucks on suicide watch because they don't have DBM announce casts in advanceoh no no no no
>>539126214tells you a lot when there are multiple zones that fit the criteria
>>539131802https://voca.ro/102jRUTxIkjr
why does it feel like the barrens has literally zero mining nodes
>>539132590There's not many GMs left so gathering bots are taking over
>>539132590that's because... its... barren
>>539132206i'm in favor of banning all addonsthe fight is still way overtuned compared to anything else and 100% of people are using pets to glitch it
>>539131797>No YOU're the one that has to prove that I'M shityawn
battered lockboxes have actual items in them and not only 1s whoa
>>539132792You're the one saying it's doable with that party composition, so yes the burden of proof is on you.
>>539132753
>>539132792Oh and I forgot.Retard!
>>539127473yeah its hard to go back to 1.12 client
What's up with the damage in GMM? They're close in level to SM but I got absolutely trashed trying to tank them with a 2h weapon.
People leaving the kodo apparitions alone without killing them are giga gay.
why are you incel discord-trannies groypers playing this when you could be playing ashes of creation soon?a real mmorpgnot this watered down themepark faggy shit
>2H weapon tanking
>>539132876they can have world drops, just like killing mobs
>Ashes of Scamnation >>>/vm/
>>539133303>tank>2h weapontheres your problem shitskin
Seems i got gkicked even after messaging that I couldn't make the guild meeting because I'm in the wagie cage this weekend. Do i take it as a sign to quit or do I push through the 4 last levels and get my mage to 60? Maybe find another guild? Even with the bugs and shit, arcane mage is comfy on epoch.
>>539133303>tanking with a 2hthis isn't classic you fucking brown troon.
is demonology a worthless spec?
>>539133876>>539134240It fucking worked without issued until GMM. Fuck you. Sword and shield has shit rage gen.
>>539134238What retarded guild did you join where they have weekly mandatory guild meetings you get kicked from if you have more important things going on, there's literally no timeframe on raids releasing
>>539134309top dps at 60
>>539134405the guild he made up in his head so that you'd reply
>>539134393>it workedNo, you got carried by a healer that went oom every pull, shitskin
>>539134309it's a spec that can solo tank certain dungeon encounters at lvl 60.
>>539134238Find a normal guild instead
>>539134665stop writing fanfiction about me. the healers on SM were fine, I asked a few if I should switch to 1h and shield and they declined. even a lvl 35 on cath.I was on SM with the same healer as on GMM and he noticed the difference too.
>remove addons because anons said the AH works fine>works even less than before, cant even search for items now
At leas they seem to be fixing some bugs
Put the shield on lil bro
Level 17 hunter here. How do I teach my spider pet to poison or web someone?
>Ally rogue tries to jump me, a prot pally>Is killing himself trying to get me to half>He blinds, sprints, and pops a FAP as he full evacuates - never to be seen againUmm, thanks?
>>539135357wh-why web someone... wh-why paralyze someone... anon....
How bad of an idea would be to switch from arms to prot warrior at level 52? Any warriorGODS here? Your experience tanking 50-60 dungeons?
>>539135605Why class are you gonna roll for BBC+?
>>539135601Just nelfie things
>>539135658I'm not a peasant or beta so I don't tank. Also, unless you have specialised defense gear prot talent tree won't mean shit. Our biggest issue is holding AOE threat and there's nothing in prot tree to help us with that.
Rogue having wrath energy regen alone makes me wanna play on bronzebeard when it comes out, I'm sick of tic based energy
>>539135535lol did you have the triple threat of thorns damage up with BoS, Holy Shield and a Shield Spike?
>>539136254ret aura, BoS, holy shield, and a shield spikeAlso have Panacea on my thrash blade and truesilver breastplate that was giving me little +100~ HP every now and then
>>539134405>>539134930It was Fight Club on Kezan. It is as normie as it gets. But they struggle with having officers for 4 raid teams so I guess It was an excuse to cull members so they can make do with what they have.
>>539133536From what level range? These are still level 1 boxes but I'm getting items from around level 20
>>539136581Right I forget about ret aura, I bet he was freaking out.
>Still no Horde Guild in GurucrashiDon't make me talk to Zug Zug or KKE
539132889>uhm actually you're the one saying it's doable!yawn, (you)
Uh oh retard melty! Still not able to prove his claims! Yikes!
>JoW and JoL can double proc if you have SoR up because you're technically doing a melee attack and a spell attack at the same timeIs this normal behavior?
>>539135075GMM is overtuned. The goblin dynamite throwers can two shot non tanks so have to be careful when pulling more than one. Can't interrupt so have to stun or sheep. Last boss ass cleave if you are not at max melee range as dps. If you jump before the last boss lands you take barely any damage from his stomp. The crabs are just pure ass cancer.
>>539137367There's not enough people left on either side of Guru here to make a guild anymore, find a regular one
Listen I know I said it couldn't be done because I'm shit at the videogame but YOU are the one who needs to prove to ME, with a VIDEO and TIMESTAMP that it could be done!
>>539137576>GMM is overtunedS K I L L I S S U E
Hear me out, maybe bronzebeard really is the play...
>>539128781Apparantly big scary fire golem man is unbeatable without pets and ranged damage. But I wouldn't know, I didn't run a brd yet.
>But I wouldn't know, I didn't run a brd yet.Yeah, we already knew that. lol.
>magmus is too overtuned>unless you can stun itthen just stun lock it
>>539137576get good lmfao
Just repeating what I see others say. lol.
>>539137576last boss cleave is annoying because its literally his entire hitbox(the safe spot does not exist for some races) but nothing else is bad or even challengingjust stun the dynamite or use cc so you dont fight two
>overtunedIf you ever say this word I immediately assume you're wearing a chastity cage.
>>539138753CC??? IN MY CLASSIC DUNGEONS?? GTFO, I WILL CHARGE INTO THE PACK OF MOBS WITHOUT PREPARATION AND WIPE THE GROUP
Kezan Sunday census
>>539138753it’s just gonna be odd if the vanilla dungeons after it are easier. but I didn’t get there yet so idk.
>>539138912>1.7k level 60sDon't think the survey addon is accurate here
Man Judgment of Light really makes solo farming so comfy. Don't have to worry about shit.
>previously stunnable bosses are now stunnable>all bosses in BH are immune to stuns...kaytotes???
>>539138912>duskhavendon't remind me...
>>539139196Does BH trash drop any loot yet? Last time I went in there, only the bosses actually dropped anything
I wish there was an option to use the chink undead models. I dont like the exposed bones nor the way the armor models are broken on them
>>539139196>who cares about the old content, what matters is my new designs
>>539139480yes, but be on the lookout for chests & raresrares can drop some good gear>>539139576BH is where they dumped all the meme and niche spec gear
Ret or Arms warr for unga bunga 2h fun?
>>539137803Well, I heard once you go to BronzeBeardClassic... you can't go back
>>539139670>BH is where they dumped all the meme and niche spec gearanything that actually helps make the dogshit specs viable?
Can someone list all the race specific seals and what they do?
>>539139730Arms feels good every time u get a new powerful weapon (so basically blacksmithing until 30, then WW axe and STV arena weapon at 38) and peaks from level 44 when u can one tap entire camps with SS and Bladestorm. Feels really shit if u don't know what u are doing and quest against mobs that are ur level, basically u always want to do green mobs/quests to get aa resets from parries, less glancing bows, parries etc.
>>539139730Arms is good in both PvP and while not good in PvE, is still infinitely more desirable than ret.If you're ret, make sure you have a steady group, you will not be able to pug.>>539140042Human is the same as retailUD is just BE Seal of BloodDwarf is one is unusable dogshit
Ret has Sanctity Aura, you're gonna want a Ret pally.
>>539137901Uhm actually bro you can't make those statements without a timestamped video with a comp that I approve of because otherwise you're a retard :)
>people STILL bugging the kodos by taming them then fucking off and getting summoned for a dungeon or doing a BG
>retard still throwing a temper tantrumkek, must still be looking for that brd group
>>539140424naah
>>539139149It's Sunday only, it was around 2.5k lvl 60s. I did a database purge to see the damage gaytotes did with his statement
>>539140424you want ret for 3rd blessing and judgements sanctity aura is nice but ret is a total dps loss if you arent considering those
>>539137901>shitters are finally hitting level 60>suddenly groups want to do weird and wacky strats because they lack dps.ubrs was fine till these retards hit 60, now its "we need the fire buff or the first boss and beast are going to kill us"fucking BH was fine but now its "stand here so x ability to hit you and healer takes no damage.">>539138753melee play in the puddle, ranged play up top, he shouldn't charge ranged and melee just need to not get knocked far enough away to get charged. boss isn't hard.
Is there an option to use the boneless undead models?
>>539141254im talking about the asscleave retard, obv you never played melee if you dont know about the cleave with 1 pixel of safe space exactly behind him where if the tank moves even the slightest bit you get fucked
>>539141592skill issue.
Where is this from? Is it the downgrade/second place reward for the "BH hidden quest"?
>>539140354U still got dual spec and fury in PVE which is literally S+ tier only behind warlocks. Warrior is S tier in both PVP and PVE.Paladins are way more viable, I think they will be strong A tier in PVP once they get their hands on lots of spell power gear from MC & BWL.
>>539141347only with a modhttps://files.catbox.moe/4mrws1.MPQ
I LOVE NELFIES!
>>539140201>>539140354Thanks guys, arms it is
>>539142081is this gonna get me banned?
>>539141941yesbuy a pirates parley and read the book on the desk at the end of baradin hold
>>539141963>fury is literally S+ tierI don't understand why delusional people like you wouldn't just play classic retail otherwise.
>>539142148wtf is a pirate's parley?
FRESHY>>539142171>>539142171>>539142171>>539142171>>539142171
>>539142117nope, only memory injecting mods like awesome wotlk will get you banned.
>>539142184You can cope all you want, by all possible metrics browns are top dps together with warlocks in both classic vanilla and with tbc talents/gear. Add arcane mages because they're strong here. Enhs will fall off hard when they fix rockbiter/wf bug. Ferals just don't have the damage due to hybrid tax but they're still viable. Retris are ok but pale in comparison to fury dps. Huntards fall off and balance druids are a joke, so is shadow priest.So you literally have 1 meta melee dps and 2 meta casters.
>>539135357They don't have web on this server for some reason, even though crabs have pin and owls have disarm.
>>539141963>fury S tier>mid spec in tbc even with armor pen and glaives>those dont exist hererogues and warrior dps on epoch are basically raid bitch only like a moonkin
>>539142201i said "buy" it so that should be enough of an explanation anon
>>539110048>45 in DM aloneAAIIIIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEE DEDGE SERVER OML SHENNA I NEED YOUR FUTA COCK TO SUCKLE ONNNNNNNN
