The Lash (old model) edition>Latest patch:https://forums.playdeadlock.com/threads/09-04-2025-update.80693/>Steam Page:https://store.steampowered.com/app/1422450/>Where to leave feedback and report bugs:https://forums.playdeadlock.com/>How do I git in?Post your Steam profile and ask. You need to accept a friend request to be invited, so don't be a sperg.>How do I git gud?Do the tutorial, get a feel for each hero in sandbox mode, explore public item builds, watch replays. Playing a Hero for the first time will put you into a lower rank game*, so don't worry about it too much.Additional Resources:>Unofficial Wikihttps://deadlock.wiki>New Player Guidehttps://docs.google.com/document/d/1lMBE7Nli_sVJ42d-kPHjF3MBaXZdIM46gNJQC_fMGMU/edit>Advanced Movement Guidehttps://www.dlmovement.wiki/>Unofficial Stat Trackerhttps://statlocker.gg/https://tracklock.gg/>Unofficial Voiceline Viewerhttps://deadlock.vlviewer.com/Threadlocked: >>539010075
Finally won a game as Abrams :]
I am only here because I want to stick my balls in Mina's asshole and have her crush them with her sphincter muscles
>>539106736>pick Abrams>press Qit is THAT easy
The black woman of Valve unoriginality.These are TWO different characters.
>>539106896Same but change Mina to Paige
>>539094969https://x.com/_yushe/status/1964826947734917561This datamined preview makes him look somewhat interesting. His 1 seems to be doing absolute damage, neither gun nor spirit (white numbers), and his ultimate is togglable. Very gun centric hero.>>539103250His weapon is rapid fire single shot, but his 2 and ultimate are shotgun. The placeholder name is "weaponswap", so I think it means he will have "2" guns.
>banned for 6 hours because internet shit itself and was on phone with isp for 2 and a half hours>while i was 12/1 on mina and was about to push into base>somehow, my team lost with a massive lead when i leftbrb killing myself
>>539107005how about one ball inside of Mina and one inside of Paige and then Paradox on your dick
>>539107007A bit more details.>His weapon 51:20 is a bible verse: "You are my war club, my weapon for battle; with you I shatter nations, with you I destroy kingdoms">His third ability is a stacking defense that when maxed out gives up to 30 stacks that also provides increased weapon damage of +1.5% per stack. So max stacks is a 45% damage increase. Stacks last for 10 seconds, 12.8 seconds with duration extender.Looks like a carry to me.
>>539106736Give me the new heroes yoshi and change the walkers too
what's the qrd on how to be as annoying and obnoxious in lane as humanly possible i feel like ruining everyone's day today
I already fucking hate the urn's voice
FUCKING NERF MINA
>>539107007>The placeholder name is "weaponswap", so I think it means he will have "2" guns.We got marvel rivals Punisher in deadlock before GTA VI :skull::wilted flower:
>>539107461play paige, shut down all offense with root and shield
>>539107478T. Happy with your lot in life
>try to communicate with my team>get zero response when I say I'm trying to push or trying to take the urn, and they don't help either>lose because, again, nobody communicates with one another outside of flaming what the fuck am I supposed to do when I'm playing with literal retards
>>539107525>Nerf a 47% WR heroNice try Seven
You can port ONE dota hero to deadlock with adapted abilities, which one?
>objectives take all types of damage>damage resist follows the same formula for bullet and spiritWhat's the fundamental difference between damage types?
>>539108205Broodmother, I want my own private army of creeps
>>539108205kunkkax-mark would be incredible in deadlock
>>539108314Spirit is dealt by spells and gun is dealt by guns, spells are single use cooldowns and guns are point and click
do you guys think Deadlock has legs or will it be doa like Artifact was?
>>539108660Its already flopping. Nobody likes this piece of shit
>>539108660It has already failed
>>539108205I'd just change Sinclair to be able to copy everything instead of just ults so he could literally be Rubick
>>539108660It very obviously has legs. And good gameplay, unlike Artifact.
>>539108660I don't really care man I like the game and I'll keep playing it game until I don't like it.
>>539108820damn that's sad, what game should I play oh sir
>>539108205Dazzle or Omniknight
>>539108660every hero has legs, but we still don't have a hero with 4 legs unless you count mokrill
>>539108660I like the setting, I like playing the game, I like losing gallons to paige and or mina. I don't see why it can't be a new DOTA level game for the forseeable future. It has the juice.
Apparently, Dota 2 wasn't free during its beta period. Do you think that Deadlock will be the same? And most importantly, well we (as in people who already got invited) have to pay for the beta?
>>539108660it's gonna be tf2 tier, popular with a very dedicated fanbase but not the biggest game in the world
>>539109112dota only required buying the pass if you had zero friends that could send you an invite, they didn't revoke any invites
>stop trying to look for kills>simply buy cultist sacrifice and heroic aura and shoot at objectives>suddenly win most of my gamesDamn, it was that easy?
>>539108518Spirit m1 hero exists.
>>539109191Heroic Aura is an automatic +10% Winrate
>>539109112it was free if you got a keyit was free money if you got multiple keys
Does bullet resist really reduce melee damage
>>539108889League Of Legends, Valorant, Overwatch 2, Marvel Rivals
>>539109647
>>539109647yet all of them don't have vyper so they're shit
>>539109164yeah, people will try it out, play for a few months, the numbers will dwindle eventually until there is a decent amount of players that care enough about it
>>539108660Sure as long as it can figure out how to solve its problems :>Being a mixed of MOBA and TPS means it's twice complicated which doesn't attract casuals>How would they balance between spirit and gun to make both viable in all brackets>Slow development pace>How would Valve treat Dota and Deadlock as separate but similar games>Hero shooters are inherently too chaotic to spectate and wouldn't make good esports>How would they attract the younger generation to play Deadlock
>>539106976As long as you play agains noobs.
I FUCKING HATE HAVING GREY TALON IN MY TEAMALL HE DOES IS PRESS ULT AND DIEI HATE THIS STUPID FUCKING INDIAN NIGGER SO MUCH KILL THIS NIGGER NOW
>>539109626You can easily test this yourself
>>539110024I checked the wiki instead, idk why i asked here where most people are just as retarded as me
>>539107534It's Mul-T from ROR2 fag
>>539109864>pick Victor>press 3 and some times also press 2It is that easy
>>539110340>single w charge>0 anti heal appliedbased pisslow enjoy
>Victor gun go brRrrRrrrrRrrrrrrrRrrrrrrRrrrrr
>>539108660>>539108820>>539108828>"hey bros let's raid dlg by saying the game is shit and a flop but wait a bit after my post so it's not so obvious">"yeah yeah we'll group masturbate over discord after!"
>>539110654nobody cares enough about your game and thread to raid it, anon. i asked a question, not my fault other anons had opinions
>>539107534guy whose seen only seen boss baby
>>539110296The what? Nobody knows what that is nigger. Next time around pick a game that was played by more than 10 people
>>539108660Obviously the next big thing for Valve. Artifact is not in any way comparable to Deadlock, they will be pushing this game heavily
>>539110893Oh yes, the small obscure gem risk of rain 2
>>539110893Newfag detected
>>539110814Die>>539111064>Mixed reviewsyep its hot garbage
>>539107007>Toggle ult on Priest>And now a passive ult with VictorI'm liking that they are trying to be creative.
>>539108516>Puddle punch but it's always vertical and the knockup is insanely high (disables movement like bebop punch), tier lets you self cast it for torrent storm as an additonal ability>X mark>Tidebringer applies to your melee attacks, dealing melee damage + tidebringer damage in a big cone like lash's whip (range scales with spirit?)>Boat works like typical, tier 3 lets it drag enemies>gun is pepperbox revolverWould be absolutely kino
>>539110750>"SHIT! he figured out it out! what should I do?">"just deflect and feign ignorance it always works"
>parry someone trying to heavy melee a last hit
>>539111456seek therapy
>>539111221Go back, dotard frognigger
>no new hero for TIDota literally died for this.
>charge up heavy melee close to enemy>he parries>i get stunned before i'm even done charging it?????????good to see that valve netcode or whatever is still garbage
>>539111064that anon is a retard but ror 2 can be rightfully memoryholed because it's worse than ror 1
>>539111664We'll get Venator soon!
watching dota TI finals makes me really want jungle rework
>>539107007>His weapon 51:20 is a bible verse: "You are my war club, my weapon for battle; with you I shatter nations, with you I destroy kingdoms"kino...
Since you faggots were fucking gatekeeping how to change FOV in the game because you're giant fucking faggots, here's the guide: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mn52vC67_Vk
>>539113760In text format for those who don't like to watch info.>Deadlock on Steam>Manage > Browse local files>game > citadel >edit gameinfo.gi with notepad>search for convars>add line "r_aspectratio" "#" right after { and before "rate"replace # with values and here's most values:>1.75=80fov >2.15=90fov >2.49=100fov
>>539113760>>539114341What is the design decision behind covering up 1/3 of your screen with your hero btw?
pretty stupid that it's allowed to match duos against two solo laners.
>>539114341i'm not going to do that, it's cheating
>win 1>lose 3 in a row>win 2 in a row>lose 5 in a row>win 1>lose 4 in a row>win 3 in a row>lose 7 in a rowthis game is so much fun i cant wait for the open beta
>>539114695according to Eternus players and 4chan pros who hide their rank it's totally legit and Valve wants you to do it
>>539114608dunno, what's the design decision in covering 1/3 of the screen with your weapon viewmodels in fps games?
>>539114852according to the devs, changing the game files for an advantage is cheating
>>539115001i wouldn't know, i don't play gayps games especially not ones where half of my screen is covered by some autismal nigger weapon
>>539115203vague Yoshi statementFOV might not be an advantage plus I have to argue this since I've used it since forever and I don't want to get banned
>>539115268Go back, dotardPlayer models and viewmodels are such non-issues. Only pretentious faggots like you find problems where they don't exist.
>>539115268your argument is just "I don't play games" with buzzwords
>>539115589>FOV might not be an advantage
>people don't realize Mo is the actual Victor of the game
>>539115203>We'd let people know new rules firstREAD NIGGA READ!!!
>>539115759it's harder to aim when your enemies are smaller
>bought an ultrawide monitor>even if they patch the "FOV slider" I will have more vision than 16:9lets
>>539115856I'm reading the current rules which are don't cheat
>>539115665>>539115723>uhm akschually not seeing shit and having a fov right out of a 2007 shooter is the grand design of icefrog!Keep it up and you might just get a shipment of semen right out of his paki balls
>>539115856DID YOU? HE SAYS RIGHT THERE BEFORE THAT SENTENCE THAT IF IT GIVES YOU AN ADVANTAGE THEN IT'S BANNABLE NIGGER!
*sigh*
>>539115759Some CS pros use 4:3 instead of 16:9
>>539116017Nigga NOBODY ELSE IS COMPLAINING ABOUT IT meaning you're making shit up cause you're a contrarian faggotI accept your concession btw. Dotard, go back.
>>539116103why are you on discord
>>539116017I didn't say that. If you can't see things in a regular TPS, you might want to check your eyes.
>>539116281it's where I talk with my friends :)
>>539116223>nobody is complaining!i guess that's why everyone and their mother is modding the fov so it isn't garbageyou retarded niggerfaggotkys
>>539116095UH OH MELTYFaggot read the WHOLE thing before you sperg out like this. Notice it says>before we did something like this.Retard. Go back to school.
>>539116103Go back
>>539116353they are grooming you
>>539116461I'm ungroomable
>>539111331this is why you need to have 4 alts so you can just quit shit matches on the spot without repercussions
>>539116358>everyone and their motherCitation needed.Making up bullshit again.>so it isn't garbageI already told you, retard. Nobody was complaining about it so it isn't garbage. Changing FOV in a TPS barely does anything. PCfags have always been obsessed about FOV so of course they're gonna change it.
>>539116358>everyoneYou don't even watch highlights of this game.
I love getting a randoms that match my aggressive laning energy and can keep up. Too bad they never accept my friend request to play more after the game
I want to try Abram again. I last played as him this winter and I remember not being good at him at all. What items would you recommend? Outside of what is in pic related, Scourge looks neat for him.
>>539116615>>539116617ok it's useless when cattle raised on literal shit are refusing a 5 star dish, why botheryou can eat shit as intendedi am done
>>539116686same dude
>>539116824wanna make out aggresively with me?
>>539116765Express your argument in English without buzzwords .
>>539116765KWABgo back to dota and stay there, turdie.
>>539116758just play billy
>>539116873Can Krill watch ?
Silence wave on Dynamo feels evil lmao.
professor dynamo is at TI?!
>>539117009Sure man! We are all buddies here haha
I think this game will fail. Somehow it managed to be even more stressful than Dota which is insane in 2025.
BUZZWORD SLUR SLUR BUZZWORD
>>539117725true, everyone will go back to league of legends and then the league mmo will release and steam will be shuttered
>>539117857TRVTHNVKE2XKO SWEEP
>>539117725Dota is chill, bro. Don't fell for roit propaganda.
>>539118006>esl pajeet defending FAILVE [Fail+Valve]Many such cases
>>539117857Dota is already a no-life simulator made for tryhards who don't plan to have a family or dream job but this game is next level sweaty. Insane.
>>539118252nobody's going to have a dream job after AI comes into its own within the decade anyways
>>539117803Low IQ anti-fanboys do be like that.
Is Phantom strike even worth for Dynamo or is Majestic leap plus warp stone enough?
>>539118763Majestic is great. Warp stone is good. I would go for improved stamina and speed.
>>539117268Keep seething.
>>539117725Swear to god millenials and zoomers are the biggest pussies when it comes to competitive games.>Millenials"Oooooh it's just so stressfull oooooh I'm so tired ooooh I just want to chill...."Zoomers are just retarded of course.
>>539119613I mean if you enjoy pouring your heart and soul into a MOBA that's fine, but don't expect the game to be successful with the average gamer.
hearing viscous die makes me feel bad
>>539119613Nice art. Source?
>>539120497No idea I got it from these threads.
hire fans
the spirits are telling me to go drone strike talon, brothers and sisters
>>539121025kys frogfagkys narutard
>>539108660It clearly has legs already.
>>539120983If you say so
>have a great first game of the day>decide I'm going to play another one>both side lanes are feeding>10-0 Drifter before 10 minutes
>>539118763How do you have enough slots to consider something beyond warp stone + counterspell? Don't forget mandatory Unstoppable for the late game, there's no way to fit in Phantom strike
>>539121116the spirits say your mom had sex with your uncle...
>>539120983>>539121256Hope whoever made these get replaced by AI
>>539107007>another push stunwow so interesting I've never seen this before! hopefully this is just a placeholder.
>>539121361I get this too. When I have a game where I stomp and carry, even use mic to lead the team to victory I'm deathly afraid to go on another match right after because it's bound to be the opposite.
>>539121690priest has no mobility, he needs it
>>539121690doorman isn't a push stun until you pump 8 ability points into it, and abrams needs to be in melee rangethis one is more fun and unique because you can't double-jump over it :)
>>539121639>I want AI to mass produce these artThis but human artists
>>539122190and they can't think of literally anything else?
>>539122513and what would you give a new gun carry that isn't designed around having free disengage? he has no wraith teleport, sleep dagger -> invis, no flame dash. it's a one-time (situational) stun to defend himself against backline disrupters like abrams/drfiter
if you hop into a tree with a bebop bomb on you it'll do no damage to you I'm not joking
>generic grenade>copy paste doorman cart>vindicta ult but worsewhat a great kit
>>539123549>mexican filter
>>539123549>Manuel and Kulo
>>539123549>Mo...we have to cook.
>>539122262It already does newfriend, I want these particular artists to never draw again.>>539123549Oh look, a New Vegas crossover already
>>539116758Yeah, I'm not playing Abrams again. This sucked.
>>539117681I hope we find someone walking alone...
Why does so much of the playerbase ignore urn? It is extremely valuable to the team even if you aren't behind, but especially so if you are. The amount of times I ask for help to run the urn and get nothing is wild. Then the team that's ahead just takes it for themselves because.. well, they can and my team doesn't do shit to stop them. Not like I can 1vX the urn myself and win.It's like they give up before they even try
>>539124229way too many games thrown because of a teamfight over urn
>>539124229>The amount of times I ask for help to run the urn and get nothing is wildyou answered your own question
Got a /v/tard in my team, unsurprisingly he fed and lost us the game.
>>539124229People in low elo don't try to stop the urn until it's already at the turn in and by then it's too late, which creates a negative reinforcement to not even bother.
You should ALWAYS grab the urn. You'll either win faster or lose faster, there's no downsides.
>>539108660Same shit in every thread, the answer is ''noone fucking knows'', now fuck off attention nigger
>>539109843>08.25.2024Can't believe game was out for more than a year already, still feels like I've got an invite about 2-3 months ago>>539124103Why tho? He's fun
Has anyone tried out Hunter's Aura/Point Blank Shiv? I've been trying to get it to synergise with Quicksilver/Mercurial-imbued dashes but actually staying within 15m is a pain in the ass because I'm a movelet and haven't practiced weird GunZ tech enough. I've also been flip-flopping on whether or not I should include headshot items on my build since Shiv has I think the tightest pellet spread in the game but that'd only leave me with like 2 free slots for defensives/sustain.
>>539125167You don't need to imbue your dash for the damage, tank buster and regular spirit scaling is enough. Hunter's and PB used to be the go to for Shiv but right now being a spirit tank like Geist used to be seems to be the meta
>>539106736Playing agains Abrams and Billy....
>>539107007>>539111232You can load him up in sandbox mode. IIRC the way the ult works is>activate it to swap to weapon>leaves what looks like a bolt particle on impact so I think it's a crossbow>cannot reload it>swap back to normal weapon once you use all ammo or press ult again>ending ult early still puts it on a cooldown
Opinions on hitreg/etc in game? I swear to fucking god the amount of shots I land that just don't count is wild. I could have much better aim, sure, but there are times I am nailing hits and nothing happens and I just ask myself "wtf is going on"
>>539123549>>539124103How do I play Mo and Makaroni? Feels like he's much stronger and tankier than Victor.
>MM once again stacks me with 5 randoms vs the stack on comms >cant contest anything>ganks are perfect>lose every teamfightnothing makes me want to not play this game more
>>539125737the servers are significantly worse when i try to play during the weekend, they need to invest in better infrastructure
>>539110615Idk, how to play anything other than Ivy/Paige. This game feels disgusting with anything else. Just played Victor and got 0/10
>>539125057>Why tho? He's funI wasn't really having fun throughout the match. The entirety of my team being in an eternal brool didn't help. But the whole enemy team was also in an eternal brool, which did help since I had loads of opportunities to split-push and clean lanes. Many other heroes would have been better for that. And when combat struck, I would relatively quickly fold because I can't 1v2 (let alone 1v3, 1v4, etc.). Only towards the end of the match did I get 5 of those 7 kills simply because I outgrew the enemy team in soul count. If my team wasn't massively out-skilling the enemy team (that Mo&Krill was a beast), we would have lost. Basically, I wish I was playing Lash.
the ritual would be over in like 5 seconds if Paige read some scifi
>>539124229I've seen enough urn fights turn into wipes for my team that I won't even bother running it unless it's safe to runPeople at low elo do not know to disengage from teamfights so it's better to avoid having those fights at all/not joining any urn fights if we're too far down and just let my teammates get themselves killed without me dying too
I don’t know why the devs made stealing jungle and snowballing so strongIt basically makes the game decided at 20 mins, and you have to sit there in your little cuck chair until niggas get bored and pushMidgame powerspike heroes need fat nerfs or add a surrender option
Did they ever completely changed an ability in this game before? Because I swear Vyper's 1 might just be the most filler ability in the entire game, it either needs to be completely changed to something new or at least give it something at rank 5 like reducing the target's bullet ressist
I found the trick to derank fast: play Abrams
>>539126304Yeah, when there is soul gap -> power gap they basically control your jungle.
>>539126304The game is decided at 20 mins, yet we don't have surrender option because Dota
>>539107921Bro, your friends?
>>539126378wraith cards used to be autotarget projectiles that randomly chose an enemy that was within 12m to damage
>>539126031It takes time. Just try simpler heroes first like Warden, Seven or Dynamo.
>>539126676Yea, watching any ‘pro’ or high mmr game is boring because of this tooI don’t know how these nigger devs expect this game to take off in a competitive scene when it just consists of laning and then coordinated teams exploiting a souls leadComebacks are infinitely more fun to see in game but maybe Yoshi is clinically retarded
>>539116686>>539116824Add me on steam and if you don't suck Ill even play with you.72072786
I thought Paige would just be a girlfriend character but I actually do like her
>>539126676none of the games are decided at 20 min because the players constantly make massive macro mistakes that could easily be punished and converted
releasing Victor in a broken state is the worst thing Valve could have doneNow there are tons of Victor players who suck dick and feed every game that he's nerfed
>>539127470>Comebacks are infinitely more fun to see in gamebut are they infinitely more fun to play when you just get punished for playing well early oni don't know why you people have such boners for making the entire early game utterly irrelevant
>>539127934Vyper went through the same thing and now nobody plays her
>>539127996because then the game would just return to may 2024 deadlock when the game was just decide by who has the sweatiest pocket/paradox instead of any real strategy
>>539127470Can you go back already? We don't want dotards here.
>>539127996just make deadlock the laning phase and end it thenfaggot
>>539116758>>539124103Your warp stone? Phantom strike? Weighted shots? Headhunter? Not having either warp stone or phantom strike is really hurting your ability to force close range engagements without them getting away. Also warpstone can get your slow ass out of bad spots.
>>539128172>Also warpstone can get your slow ass out of bad spots.NTA but thanks, I just realized what my Bebop build needed
>Win 50billion games in a row>Go up one rank>Lose twice>Go downebin
>>539125720if the weapon isn't inspired by nicholas d wolfwood i don't want it
>>539127996>even game where both teams can actually play?>NUH UH I WANT TO STOMP AND GET STOMPEDgo play league you soulless nigger
>>539128148it's like saying scoring goals in the first half of a football game should only count as 0,5 goals because it's so much fun to see comebacksstupid thing to say when the early game is also a part of the game, and doing well early and capitalizing on your pressure should be rewardedthe amount of times people complain how they can't convert early leads into a win or how their team just falls apart at the 15-20 minute mark just show how easy it is to NOT capitalize and instead throw a won gamenot to mention the amount of times people get caught OOP mid-late and just lose midboss/objectives for their team as a resultwhat you should do is learn the macro and capitalize on their mistakes, because i guarantee you every single game right now has dozens of them for you to take advantage of>>539128458>even game where both teams can actually play?very achievable especially when you can actually play early
>>539128575prove it bitchwhole game is designed to snowball the winning team currently
>>539127806Get on HRT kitten you're my gf now
>>539124229Running urn is only worth it if most of the enemy team is dead or if your trying to force a team fight otherwise it's just a risky time waster
>>539128575winning lane gives you map control, let's you gank other lanes, potentially threaten walker, and demoralizes the enemy teamwhat else do you want? if you fuck up as soon as laning ends, you fucked up. don't fuck up.
this general is filled with pisslow players anything below ascendant is same don't compare ranks
>>539121256sauce?
>>539128679prove what? i play in phantom lobbies and the amount of times someone gets caught out of position and throws midboss and the game in mid-late game even when ahead by a wide margin is incrediblethe macro skills of the majority of the playerbase are just terrible and easy to exploit if you know what you're doing>>539128952as it should be, winning lane and it amounting to nothing is just retarded
i pick up the urn frequently just to get the movespeed buff and then i drop it after doing a box route.
>>539129005NTA Afrobull but I think the pic is just his art edited to look like deadlock characters
>>539128108>>539128575You niggers miss the point when there are certain heroes that become absolute rapists early to mid>just win lane against a GT or vindicta bro on your abrams/victor without draft bro>just don’t take 700 damage from a midgame GT arrow or Lash ground stomp or Pocket combo broThese heroes are meta and so broken when late game is supposed to be able to be avoided like you faggots want. This is just stupid and a horrid meta where half of the game is just spent in that cuck chair in a guaranteed lost
I will win the deadlock TI :)
>>539129052>game is snowball city unless we play like fucking retards in """phantom"""riveting
>>539129154He drew it.
>>539129170NOOOOOOOOOO WHEN I PLAY POCKET/PARADOX/GT/VINDICTA WHEN I WIN LANE I SHOULD ALWAYS WIN GAME
>>539129179>leading team is more likely to win unless they make unforced errorswhat a surprise!
>>539129179>game is snowball city unless we play like fucking retards in """phantom"""I'm on the other end of the rank bellcurve from that anon and my games are very rarely snowballs. The losing team is usually just whoever ends up getting wiped after all objectives are done.
only valid region is eu btw
>>539129350That's how you know Mina and Paige are both tranny characters when porn artist start drawing them despite never playing the game.
>>539129425good luck with your aneurysm when the game gets actual comeback mechanics
>>539129857>when the game gets actual comebacks>yoshi: one of our design goals is ending games around 30-35 min markdoes this anon know?
>>539129857like the urn for examplethe moment you see it's a free urn you should just go run it, would probably fix like half of your snowballing issues
>>539127470>>539128575I think at anything but the top mmr there are a lot of opportunities for comebacks. Valve might have learned their lesson about dota 2 balancing which was almost all about the top mmr leaving the game boring and shit for the regular people.I think stomps would be less annoying if games were shorter. They need an alternative objective that is not mid boss or urn. The statues and sinners do encourage some pickoffs but need more.
>>539129981the urn is a snowball mechanic>winning team controls the map>by proxy controls the urn
>>539130161people don't run the urn in games that aren't top mmr, they don't even acknowledge it before someone picks it up nor the lane around it
>>539124229I think I have a 30% success rate of turning in urn when the urn is not on my side of the map.When the game is even it just ends up killing me and my team. The vision they have on you while turning it in is too easy to fuck you up if it's a 6v6 situation. Not worth unless you are super ahead or have rejuvenator to force a fight
>>539130161>if enemies all join urn runner: go push the opposite lane>if enemies don't: gank the urn runner and steal it for yourself>enemies ran urn while you were all down: you fucked up
>You were removed from matchmaking for being idle too longWhat the hell? Do I just need to be present for the whole wait?
Damn that must've been the most boring TI I've ever watched. Dota is truly dead. Deadlock will take over.
>>539130428just move one time every 5 minutes.fucking dumb that it has this but there's no confirm button when the queue pops so afk players just land in their lane and get shot in the head for free.
I just watched the final international game (which lasted 1 hour) only to be rewarded with zero (0) deadlock news
>>539130325>>539130423that doesn't make it a comeback mechanicthat's just banking on the enemies being fucking retarded
>>539130723why would there be deadlock news you doofus
>>539127806in order to be appealing to your girlfriend who isn't very good at video games, support characters tend to be extremely overpowered and overdesigned.this means if someone who happens to be good at video games is playing them, you can do some real fucked up shit, like how her barrier gives 25% weapon damage so with spread/express shot you can just shotgun down a lane and anything in the way takes 100s of damage
I don't understand Yamato's right click when do you use this shit?
>>539130428well yeah otherwise afk people join games
>>539108205Storm Spirit, no question
>>539131018because they're sitting on venator and I want to PLAY him
>>539127996You are actually retarded. Why make this game last longer than the laning stage then? Give us surrender button and fuck off.
>>539131075its a lane only thing
>>539108205Mars probably has the most translatable kit>skill shots>shield bash is like rend on drifter>incredibly fun passive in a shooter to tank>disruptive ult but not oppressive
>>539130743Other anons may disagree but I view urn as just another objective, so I'll show up only if it's closer than another objective I could be counterpushing instead
>>539131075all the time
>>539131075>>539131279forgot to say i also chain it in combohook -> bomb -> punch -> crimson slash
>>539131161they dont want to release one hero, they want to wait until they have a bunch and do another voting event
snowballing in this game is so bad, and every time they try to address it nothing changes. much like the matchmaking and hero balance, now that I think about it. at least the art team has their shit together.
>>539124229urn is a SCAM unless you're behind>bro run urn to give every teammate less than one waves worth of souls bro!!!Only when you're behind do you get a larger amount of souls for it
fuck this games shit balancing
>>539130743are you retarded? the urn is the most egregious example of a comeback mechanic I could come up with>>539131238because it's a game and unforced errors happen all the time especially with a lot of moving parts and comebacks happen all the time?
>>539131075it has less/no damage falloff so you can use it to bully people in lane if you can get a feel for aiming it and it also does more burst damage for stuff like rightclick into abilityit gets pretty fucking funny if you buy riccochet too
Is Vyper even worth learning? Love the VA but god damn it, is her model trash and idk how to actually utilize her. tried to build damage item but then I get fucked so hard by Abram on the middle game
*raises paw*characters that don't rely on mid/long range harass should all have unique M2s
>>539131310Too bad his abilities aside from the shield are literally luggage cart, rend and frozen shelter, so he's almost all in the game. Would be fun if we could get tools to make custom heroes though, even if it just started with remixing available skills
Split shot should upgrade into Ricochet and Healbane should have another upgradelow tier level items that don't build into anything feel so bad
>>539131279If you're going burst you'll also use it throughout the game.Most players expect you to light punch after you hook them but if you start off with an Express Shot bomb they'll often times be stuck in parry, enough that you can follow it up with a heavy or light into crimson slash into power slash.Then by the time you're done with that combo, the Express Shot is back up again and you can bomb again.
>>539131968kys leaguefag
>>539131961She's straight up a LITERAL pain to play right now. I'd just hold off because I feel like she's going to get a makeover down the line that leans into her sliding play without being unintuitive as fuck. Having to constantly mash the dash --> sprint buttons is both annoying and wrist killing.
>paige creams her panties when laning with victorvictor is so lucky
>>539131840it's worthless by the time you have enough souls to get ricochet,split shot is the item to look at for her bombs, all of the projectiles you vomit out can all shotgun the same target.
Every now and then I get into a game where I just don't know what I'm doing wrong. I don't die much, I farm a lot, I get elims, and yet, there's still someone on the enemy team who'll have 10k more souls than me.
>still cant queue with only new heroeswhyTheir pick rates have already dropped to mostly normal levels besides Mina
I just left a game I'm not going to deal with fucking retards today.
>>539132430The other player is extremely aggressive and is getting rewarded for it because your team keeps getting ranked probably.
>>539132391split shot can only hit a target once, riccochet lets people take splash from the followup bounces if they're close together. buying both is very funny just for landing those first hits though and watching the fireworks
>>539130027>Valve might have learned their lesson about dota 2 balancing which was almost all about the top mmr leaving the game boring and shit for the regular people.They haven't. Dota's viewership hasn't fallen yet; players keep coming back, so according to their logic Deadlock should be as sweaty as Dota to bait the esports audience. They forgot the only reason Dota esports managed to take off in the first place was because it had strong public support from casuals first, which allowed IceFrog to slowly morph the game into esports. Even Overwatch only went full retard with OWL few months after release, but Deadlock is being built to be esports from the start even when lacking public support.
>Polack or russian in my lane keeps fighting and dying>"wtf no help I afk now">This is the third time in a row this has happenedI just don't get these people, man.
>>539132953>Deadlock is being built to be esports from the startLiterally the opposite, they consistently ignore feedback from the "pros" and go against it
>>539133101really?holy basedlooks like they learned from dota
>>539133101That's just classic IceFrog, because he knows better than pros. The same happened in Dota.
>>539133305Love Icefrog.
>Literally no one:>Valve: "Let's buff Shiv"
>>539133643Why are you just standing still?
>>539133463>well, ignoring that
>>539132962Rip Cobra
>>539132021that's kind of true actually, and drifter ult has the vision reducing part of itdamn
do I use splitshot whenever I see anyone regardless of context or only when the enemy is grouped together?
Where do I see the patchnotes for this gameThe "forum" is just russians saying pls invite
>>539133643>2k souls un-spent>standing still on top of each other>cold front against a hero that dashes directly onto you>monster roundsbuy some good items and you live
>>539132021>>539133894I feel the same way about Crystal Maiden who's my favorite support but Seven>Nuke>Stun>Big channeling AoEis basically her carry version. Dammit.
>>539133643Maybe spend your souls, dumbass
>>539134085bro your official deadlock forum you get from the playtest?
>>539134198nooo i need da 8 minute cultist sac
wait I can just debuff remove Drifter's ult? kek
>>539134348I swear you league players refuse to read anything oml
Slork mogs Grifter btw
>>539134348I thought only divine thing removed ult debuffs wtf
>>539131721You dont want meaningful comebacks. You can't comeback if enemy team is controlling the fucking jungle because of power gap caused by heroes. There are specific heroes that do super well early and stomp you.
The game is already oversaturated with copy pasted abilities. They're really gonna have to use their brains for the next batch of heroes if they want to save this game
>>539133820It's for the best.
who's on the left?we're clearly getting a werewolf hero though
This game is so poorly designed they couldn't figure out the best hotkeys for items so they decided on ZXCV. Active items, which basically only existed "because Dota", were a mistake.
Utter stomp because we kept feeding the Drifter. Only Japanese name in the lobby, which I think is weird.
>>539134458>Purge all NON-ULTIMATE negative effects currently applied to youEither the item is not working properly or the abilities are not working properly.Your pick, dotanigger.
>>539135001werewolf lash
>>539106736that was NOT a fun TI ginalback to deadlock
>trash talker on team>lowest damage on the teamThis faggot got tilted after getting killed and proceeded to just afk farm had the most souls but was absolutely useless.
>>539135245yeah and that's what it doesread
>>539135001I think those are just funky decorative paintings with no greater meaning.
>>539135312First MOBA?
>>539135040weird thing to post in the invite only beta phase of a gamelike no one is forcing you to be here and there's not really an incentive to bejust leave
>>539131018why would there not be?
>>539135286did they even announce anything?
I actually just want all of my teammates and their entire fucking families to die.
>>539135483gaben came onto the screen and announcednext year's TI is at shanghai, look forward to it!
I can't believe Gabe beheaded Yoshi at the international. Who's gonna run deadlock now?????
>>539135483nopeno new hero or patch or arcana or immortalzero, nothing
>>539135664dotards on suicide watch
>>539135638me. first order of business: adding freckles to holliday
>>539135385It's not a weird thing to post. The beta has been going on for one year, but they still couldn't figure out how to make active items not clunky to use. ZXCV are shitty choices. Everybody knows it. But because WASD are used for movement, QWER aren't available for skills. So they decided on 1234 for skills. But how about actives items, then? Hmmmmm ZXCV. We must have active items somehow. Just place them at ZXCV.
>>539135779time to make way for chadlock stealing all resources
>>539135960I use those as my hotkeys anyway in dota 2. Even worse ones including B,G,N. Let me guess you're a league player and used numbers and are seething
>>539135040>he doesn't have mouse buttons
>>539136068SIX NEW MELEE HEROES OTW CHADLOCKERS>>539135664sorry they're making the sex update for deadlock first
>>539136293Why are the default keys not mouse buttons, then? It's almost like the devs themselves know it's unrealistic.>>539136224You're using 1234 and ZXCVBN for Dota?
Where were you when Dota died?
>>539135374No, it's just funny how these people would waste their time doing nothing but afk farming and then run at the enemy team or get caught out giving them 1-2k soulsI wouldn't doubt them having a underlying mental illness.
>>539135960>ZXCV are shitty choices. Everybody knows it.I use ZXCF instead. Instead, I rebound melee to my mouse buttons.>>539136293I used up all my mouse buttons on other shortcuts.
>>539136531Nah QWER and ZXCVBN. I use 4 for my neutral item, 1 for my hero to snap on. Dont really use 2 or 3. Dont play any more though, my behavior score dropped too low and now it's always peru. Ironic cause I dropped calling peruvians retarded. There's just too many in NA now to bother playing dota. Dead game for WEU and NA
>>539136531it's easycasuals almost never change key binds, they will also barely use actives because it scares themso once they take the leap of faith and use healing rite to try and act as a support they will see either get used or change them
Man, I hate Broadway. It's has the least fun topology.
>>539136552Farting into my toilet bowl
>>539135312By far the worst moba archetype. They sacrifice their entire team to farm souls then proceed to die just as much as us with no impact
is bullet velocity actually useful?
>>539134938Techies will SAVE the 'lock.
>>539136620>I use ZXCF insteadZX are the hardest to reach, though? Usually I try to only use CV because ZX means I'd have to stop moving to use items, which could be dangerous.>>539136885The problem is you can't use QWER in Deadlock because W is used for movement. So you have to settle with 1234 and ZXCV.>>539136924Active items are not scary, they are just inconvenient as hell.
>>539136552Posting on a board full of shitters and retards.
>>539134864>There are specific heroes that do super well early and stomp you.Yeah it's like their point, then they fall off late. It's like Dota.
>>539137271Yeah but it wasnt really that big of a deal to change, they're literally one row above QWER. Big deal.
Mine is so fucking broken why did Valve buff her but nerf almost all the other new heroes?
>Valve pushes out some hastily shit balance update that breaks meta>goes on vacation to watch TI>bunch of third world russian subhumans vs chinks
>>539137545It's actually a bigger deal than you realize. Since the fingers are fixed on WASD, you literally have to stop moving to use 1234 and ZXCV. The delay is lower for 1234, but ZX in particular requires a second of delay during which your hero would stay in place. This is the reason why people often limit themselves to 1-2 active items, and lower ranked scrubs just don't use them altogether. It's not a big deal on the surface, but this affects gameplay.
>>539135960sorry about your hand sausages
>>539138110it's only a problem for me if I'm walking to the left, I can use my abilities and run forward just fine
Mina's dash is such fucking horseshit
I changed my ability binds to QEF4 and don't regret it.Actives I haven't touched yet since I don't have a fancy mouse. Maybe 123R would work but then I'd need a new melee and reload key.
>Deadlock retards still haven't taken the RAGE movement pillngmi
>>539138717only rage movement?I'm always enraged when i play this game
>>539138623>Actives I haven't touched yet since I don't have a fancy mouse.I bought one with buttons but I'm so not used to it that I just default to ZXCV...
>>539137271they are scary to new players, many of them think you need to be constantly aware of them and each second of their CD when in reality is>"oh metal skin is up, ok">uses it>diesand thats it
Rest your fingers on the rage keys and feel how comfy that is, and it frees up so many keys to bind stuff too
>>539134938You WILL have your 1 be a Shiv knife clone but worse and you will LOVE IT
>>539139125>>539138717What the fuck does that even mean
>dotards seething at us for getting 6 hero releases at once when they haven't even been promised one this year
>>539139960lets hope Valve wakes up and puts Russian shits into their own queue so this doesn't die in EU like Dota did
>>539139959You know how each key on your keyboard (the big rectangular thing in front of you with all the buttons) has a letter on them? We'll take this slow so I'll wait for your answer before we move on to the next step
>>539140119It felt so shitty I figured there had to be no possible fucking way you were literally saying to use your RAGE keys for movement, my bad.
>>539139960fuck i remember when dota got 6 or 7 heroes released in one month, those were the days
>play melee abrams>be extremely bored>win>play gun abrams>have tons of fun>lose
>>539140219I didn't consider manlets with tiny hands, I can see how that might be an issue for the midge community
>>539108660The game is going to be successful once it launches. Probably wont hit overwatch/marvel rivals numbers because the vast majority of people low attention span retards that cant learn anything but itll do well.
>3rd game today dominated entirely by one playergood use of my time
>>539137323Sure, Abrams falls of with 10 rows of hp.
>>539140943wtf is that Yamato mod? Link it NOW
>>539140943Deserved for using that ugly skin
>>539140943Yamato should be removed. Her skills are fucking dropping FPS for me.
is bullet resist shreder a good item?
>>539106736>use an ability>get bannedYoshi pleasehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yQY50VPSLXU
Talon bird is fucking shit
>>539141306Retard. He was banned for smurfing. Look at the rank of the game.
>>539140943Like the Lash was literally the previous game. This isn't fun or interesting
>>539141095https://letmegooglethat.com/?q=ugly+yamato+skin+fps+babana
I fucking love Yamatocan't stop, won't stop playing her
>try out Paradox>fucking love her>all of a sudden not getting Paradox even at highest prioritySo what, now everyone wants the scottish nookie over the gargoyle and the vampire bitch? fuck you all
>>539141746share build, i wanna learn her
>>539141259I dont know
Accurate
>>539142060I use Soko's build.
>>539142162in my experience most of ritualist/emissary are grandfathered in, tryharding doesn't start until archon.
>>539141426have you tried building items that kill the fed heroes
whats wrong with just having fun?
Please yoshi make it 20$ on release to keep the subhumans out
>>539142034low priority pick two of your other most played characters and pray
>>539142408Nothing it's what games are for. No one here is going to be MLG420blazeit pro gamer.
I don't understand why I'm able to dominate on Infernus just by buying a few items but other characters need every single item slots in the game in order to do anything
>>539142408Having fun is only for winners.
>>539143084That buck is downright peculiar I tell you what
>>539142507They'll make the game itself F2P and charge for the visual novel
They should buff afterburn DPS by like 50% but also make it 2x more bullets to apply the debuff so purging it/plated armor actually does something
I want to play McGuiness, and I want to play Turrent buildWhats your recommendation /dlg/? And don't tell me to pick something else
>Die 6 times>All of those are due to haze ultAlright give it to me, what's the item that utterly counters and invalidate her ult
>Mina in Psylocke's bathing suitgod dayum
deadlock is too stressful I can be 10-0 at 15 minutes and still be worried about how retarded my team is going to throw
>>539144000Even if you're strong enough for 1v6 your team will throw anyway.
>>539144000Welcome to MOBAs. That's been happening to people for 20+ years.
>>539144000sounds like any multiplayer gameonly get stressed if they are calling something like midboss or patreon and only if that call is bad
>>539143983i don't like it
>gets fed by your team every match in your pathHow do you respond without sounding mad?
>>539142162I've watched every deadlock video I can think of and have almost 400 games and I am alchemist. I was Oracle though when I last played last year, before they added hero labs. Even more insane are people claiming "no one goes for sinner's or runes" when multiple games in a row I have fights at 5 minutes for the first rune, and most sinner's on the map are gone less than 1 minute after spawn.Usually I am the only one that gets the boxes right under mid though at 10 minute mark.
>>539144000the MOBA experience yes
>>539144347I don't like the feets
>>539144720>Even more insane are people claiming "no one goes for sinner's or runes"I assure you in Initiate NOBODY goes for Sinner's I get like 10+ of them a game.
any miragefags that could give me a helping hand real quickwhen i try to ult on an ally near an objective on the minimap, it just pings the objective. is there a clickover toggle or am i just shit out of luck if they decide to fight on top of midboss or whatever
>>539144473by winning anyway
>>539144347>>539144795How about this one then?
>>539144720wtf is a sinner
Is modding the files fairly easy f or this game?
I'm surprised they let you mod shit
>>539145075Needs to be updated for her new model
>>539145075I like it regardless if its goontastic or coomerpilled, the gun also looks great
>>539145075She should have a witch mod
>>539145108Sinner's sacrifice, the slot machines.
>>539144859It's just poorly designed, click the hero icons at the top instead
>1-12 lowest player damage on team>constantly complainingcan i just get a normal competitive game todayspent half the match sitting under a walker defending it with someone waiting for help that never came
>>539126110rooling is the best part of the game and that's where your effectiveness lies. I think your attitude just doesn't work with Abrams specifically.
8 loss streak....
>>539145390Dammmn you buckblack NIGGER!!!! she's not a witch. The tragedy of her unfortunate demise is that she was killed for no real reason! NOTHING! She was innocent! It would be ironic for her to become a monster her tormentors believed her to be, but it's far outweighed by how tone-deaf it is.
>>539128389I went on legit 10+ winstreaks with 0 upranks, then got on a 3 losestreak and deranked. Then it happened again. So ranks either have a very esoteric way of being calculated or straight up don't matter.
take this boob
>>539146161Brother you're expecting some kind of brain activity on a coomer post
Drifter spirit build to get stacks, then buy gun items after stacks.
>WHAT THE FUCK YOU PUSSY NIGGER FIGHT WITH ME!No, I will continue to farm the wave and creeps while you die brooowling for nothing
>>539144720I have 700 games and am alchemist. I think I was almost oracle before they nerfed shiv then I quit for a year now I am back stomping with the new pubcancer drifter >>539146489
>>539108660Windranger but with uzis. I want to run circles around tanks and watch them seethe while dodging attacks
>>539146684So you want to play gun seven basically
>>539146684my bad, meant for:>>539108205
Holiday feels so fucking clunky to play, idk what you're supposed to do with those barrels that move so slowly compared to enemy champions
>>539146941Bro, your bounce pads? Bounce the barrels
>it's another episode of people brooling on minute 0 and feeding let me out of here
>>539146746seven doesn't have the ability to buff his own speed, become invulnerable to physical damage or chase enemies while spamming basic attacks. He's just overrated as all hell
>>539146941you're meant to use the bouncepad to throw it at them in the air and melee it down to do a whopping 10 damage on a 40 second cooldown
>>539147001That's still very slow and you see it coming from a mile away
>>539147084technically every character can become immune to physical damage in this game with metal skin
>build spirit>always at the mercy of your cooldown, fucked if you miss one>build gun>always at max efficiency except during your 2 second reloadexplain the point of building spirit
>>539147001NTA but you just proved his point
>>539147269Do not let the people here know gun is better than spirit still.
>>539115203they'll just disable the convar in a hotfix if it's cheating.
>>539147269>except during your 2 second reloadquicksilver actually
>>539115001not a good one given you can turn them off in TF2 or have a minmode.Overwatch is a prime example of how dogshit this is.>Hey, are you a Zarya OTP and want to buy a skin for her? LMAO get cancer and die, most of them cover up EVEN MORE than her default skin!just look at this retarded shitALL FPS games NEED an invisible viewmodel option/transparent/min mode viewmodel option for their weapons.this shit is fucking stupid and they never fixed it.
>>539142403with what souls?
>>539108660the six heroes update had 6 million votesthere is literally no way this game is dead on arrival, it will absolutely see some level of huge success especially since Valve will be promoting it like crazy
>>539147269spirit has high burst so you dont have to track them forever and it's less carry orientedthat's why i go spirit drifter, he doesnt actually beat the enemy carries so it's better to go spirit for burst damage which is further amplified by his passive
>>539148059>spirit drifter...LMAO
>Lash players all have big egos thinking their braindead autopilot character is hard and "flashy" and delude themselves into thinking they're gods gift to DeadlockValve just knew how this character base would act.
>>539147938Slowing hex for lash is only 1600. Healbane for mcginnis is only 1600. Counter items are much much cheaper to build than carry items. Granted, mcginnis is usually a split pushing cunt so it's not as easy to fight a fed one down. I hate her. Lash though you can definitely catch out with hex
how would you make Mid-Boss a not shit objective?
>it’s a team gets mad at you for not being in every big fightWE ARE DOWN 3 WALKERSTHEY HAVE 3 HALF HPFUCKING PUSH
>>539148221no longer underground
>>539147978And where's your actual proof of these votes?
>>539148221Make it walk around the map and have it be like 15 feet closer to the losing team so they can contest it better.Really just needs to be more contestable. They used to have those tunnels directly from spawn you could get to mid boss asap in the closed beta
>>539148335
>>539148591And what if they said 10 million, or 20 million? That's proof to you?
>>539142408They added comp to an early access game, fun is not allowed
>>539148221first of allnerf Mina ult into the floor against objectives or quadruple it's cooldown if it does no player damage.let it regen health when out of combat so you can bait roars for teamfights more often.give it some mechanics, tentacles that spawn out of the floor and stuns anyone who doesn't move out of it. have the beam ramp up it's damage exponentially while also reducing damage taking by the person being beamed by 50% to prevent solos by faggot characters like Mina.remove all bonus stats gained from it, the revives are more than enough. have it grant a global boon to the team when taken.
>>539148195>DING DING DING>throws entire team into walkermy last entire match was just watching Lash get fed free kills and I’m saltiest mother fucker alive, you’d think after the 9th time they’d learn not to push the walker while the 19/3 Lash is hugging it’s leg
>>539148591STOP THE COUNT
viscous merch when
>>539148708game had a concurrent 60,000 players during the voting week and people could vote multiple times, you can literally see screenshots of guys dumping their hundred votes into Drifter or Victor or whoeverbe a skeptic if you want but it's not an insane number
>>539149097The numbers aren't real, retard. They're clearly faking votes to make the game look more active than it is.
>>539148708God, you faggots will cry "ITS FAKE" to literally any sort of proof valve gives.Valve could open up their API and show you the raw vote info and you'd go "ERMM THAT'S FAKE"kill yourself, dotatranny. your game is dying and forgotten and is going to be replaced by Deadlock.
>Mina keeps getting grabbed by Bebop episode>gets mad at METhe fuck am I supposed to do
>forced to play seven/infernus/lash again instead of minaher popularity is never going to drop, is it?
>>539149273jump in front of m'lady to take the hook for her, obv
>>539149097>>539149209Yeah 60,000 players would have to have played 100 matches EACH to reach 6 million.Definitely not inflated numbers, lol lmao. That's only expecting literally every single person playing deadlock to invest 50 hours in only two weeks. It's totally real
the votes are fakewake up sheeple
>>539149452You know it's 60,000 concurrent players, right? There's way more people than that actually playing the game. People don't just have Deadlock running on their PC 24/7.
>>539149273>intentionally get hooked by bebop>counterspell bomb and uppercut>dash backward and nox his ass>rake right before he ults after the silence wears offhehnothin personal beepboop
>>539149452>ALL of those 60k players are the EXACT same people and not interchanging people over the course of the weekactually how retarded are dotatranniesI pray for your sake that you're just a baiting retard.
>>539149627Yeah and what about the people afk in menus and doing bot games? Should be way less votes tbqh
>>539106736Doorman feels so weak I don’t know what to do sometimes
>>539149452Retardkun...
>>539148221Revert it to how it was before. Being able to solo steal the whole objective with just one punch actually made it worthwhile to contest instead of it being a throw.
>>539149452the game's actual highest peak numbers are almost triple thatit's not a stretch at all to say enough people played games and voted that they got to nearly 6 million, why are you so intent on dying on this hill like a moron
>Ivy redesign leaked via portraits>People have the over-cutified design and make their feelings about it loudly known>Ivy finally gets an updated model and it's walked back very far from what we might have gotten>Viscious redesign also leaked>People think it sucks and doesn't make sense, make their feelings about it loudly known>Viscous redesign is not rolled out in the hero update even though basically every other design update leaked at the same time isValve is doing this shit on purpose to get feedback without actually giving people the idea that they are deliberately listening to art design feedback.
>Gun Paige>800 damage from split shot in 2 seconds of sustained fire (she doesn't even have to aim)Why hasn't Yoshi nerfed her gun?
>>539149893That was literally over a year ago when everyone instantly quit
>>539149452the intelligence of the average Dotard has got to be studied. do you know how to tie your shoes? did you wear velcro for your entire childhood?
>>539149452you do realize the game has far more players than 60000
>>539149896Viscous redesign looks like hot ass
I like getting sent back to pisslow because it means I get to lane against retards that just spam heavy melee all day
>>539149992and people came back for the hero update, it's not rocket science
>>539149832If youre losing and arent a kill threat just cast it on their most fed hero. Get cast range and maybe ethereal shift to just survive and get more spells off
>>539149896the ivy portrait leak was a fuck up on deathy's part during a streamif that hadn't had happened, no one knows what would have happened to ivy's new design
>>539149990Metal skin deletes the entire character and lasts longer than her split shit.or just have two people build return fire and watch her literally kill herself like a retard.
>>539149896How hard is it to just make him look like a fucking diver
Even if we assume that it was triple that amount, 180,000 players would have to play 33+ games EACH which is far more than the average player would commit to in such a small timeframe.>>539150103Yes, 60,000. We already discussed this, you're like 5 steps behind the conversation, did you have a stroke?
6 million is starting to sound a bit farfetched...
>>539150337It's more than triple, far more.
>>539150337alright I'm not gonna sit here and argue the meaning of 'concurrent' with someone reaching for excuses to call bullshit on very obviously reachable numbers when the average player is someone that went through the trouble of getting alpha access in the first placeyou have a nice day flop-kun
>>539150619go back
>>539150337you HAVE to be baiting, you seriously cannot be this fucking retarded.
>>539147883but anon pls think of all the timmies and sallies in the world that won't open up mommy's credit card if they don't see their favorite streamer playing with the latest skin :((((((
>Uhh actually we have 2,500,000 active players brolmao, the cope is unreal
>>539149992everyone quit to play rivals so they could all quit to play something elsehype cycles drive everything nowi quit to play rivals, and hated it because it just wasn't engaging, but i was dragged into it because all my friends stop playing deadlocknow? they're all playing deadlock. why? even in its unfinished state, it's still a more engaging and skill-expressive game than rivals ever was
>deadlock is faking the votesYeah, I'm thinking it's over for Valve. Overmarvel Rivalwatch won.
SEX WITH THE DOORMAN!!!!
>>539151198Finally, a good post.
>Friend played deadlock with me during the first month of the tests>Won't play with me again now that the new hero udpate is hererip...
>>539150619umm, it's actually 15 million now chuddy, get your facts right.
>>539151128What does that have to do with anything at all?
>>539151010>concurrentkek doesn't understand what concurrent meanssteamcharts has caused irreparable damage to video game discussion
I'm tired of fighting the vampire bitch
>>539151576better start playing her then
>uhh it's not 60,000 or 2.5 million b-but it's a lot and I can't actually tell you the numbers but trust me bro
>>539151576Buy phantom strike.
i love talking about numbers instead of videogamesmy enjoyment is purely quantitative, my favorite game is honor of kings because it has the most players!! that means it's the best!!!!!!!
>>539151774Honor of Kings sounds pretty based, tell me more.
>>539149990Same reason Yoshi buffed Mina and Shiv. They don't play the game. They only listen to a select few people who demand buffs on their main heroes.
>Abrams with Phantom StrikeSo what's the counterplay? Just not be in a 50 meter radius around him?Just spend the game not touching the ground?
>>539151331never mind, i see what you guys are talking abouteither way, you're retarded, bad at math, fail to understand concurrent users verses daily users, and can't comprehend how people that are playing a game that just got updated can't average 2 hours of playtime per day for 2 weeks
>>539151851Shiv needed a buff though.
>>539151851>Mina and ShivDamn, sorry you're shit... Must be tough...
>>539151813Honor of Kings is a 5v5 multiplayer online battle arena video game published by Tencent Games for iOS, HarmonyOS NEXT, and Android. The game was first released in mainland China on 26 November 2015. My favorite part is all the cool skins you can purchase!!
>>539151886I accept your concession, tardbro
>>539151861Phantom strike brings you to the ground, dummy, that's not a solution.
>>539149203Just curious, why do you think the billion dollar game company needs to fake the numbers to make it more active than it is? They have an infinite money glitch with Steam and CS2 skin market. What's the fucking point???
>>539152138Idk maybe they don't want their project to fail this time like the other few times it's happened????? Shocker!
>>539151624you got raped, dotatranny.
>>539152201How the fuck would faking numbers stop the game from failing?
>>539151624>peak concurrent players: 60k>peak hour: 6pm eastern>ignores the rest of the global players>the 30k-50k+ playing the game when people in the US are asleep don't exist
>>539152201Oh I see you're one of those retards that thinks Deadlock is comparable to Artifact and Underlords.Didn't realize I'm talking to a literal braindead ape. Nevermind!
>>539152275Building artificial hype, tardbroYou guys are so stupid I swear
>>539152018i wasn't the person you were initially arguing withthere is no concession to give, because you're throwing punches at smokeyou're also still bad at math and fail to understand stats, faggot
>>539152376>You guys are so stupidreminder that you made the dumbest post I have seen in nearly a decade. >>539149452either you're baiting or clinically retarded.STOP GIVING THIS RETARD ATTENTION
I'm a Lash main but I feel like I struggle heavily with every other character in the game, what do
>>539152442>I wasn't the person you were initially arguing withThat's ok I'll still accept your concession
>>539152376If Valve wanted to build artifical hype, they would open their vault of billions and billions of dollars to spend it on a little bit of marketing. You know, like how other liveservice slop developers do it. Create artifical hype by giving millions to streamers like Shroud and Asmongold.You truly are one fucking low IQ monkey.
>now he wants valve to give his favorite streamers moneylol
>>539152376So low IQ it HAS to be bait.
>>539152509why would you pick anything other than perfection itself?
>>539148947Dude I beg your clean your minis before posting. Or get a better glue>>539148708>>539149452So what you're saying is that the players don't have the physical capacity to gather 6 million votes in such a short amount of time?
>>539152509Yeah because lash is piss easy and deludes players into thinking their good at the game when he's one of the best characters at escaping, nuking and auto winning team fights so you flounder like a fish when you're put on something that is actually honest.
>>539152786t.bebop
>>539151576I'm tired of playing with the vampire bitch
>lash and mo player's imbuing their heal with qsr and buying mystic burst
>>539152786That envious of the Lash, huh...?
>>539152376Ah yes, the random post on discord: truly the hype machine Valve needs to save their dying game the refuse to stop updating and developing for some reason
>>539152524again, i concede nothing. get new bait.
>>539153081No, you conceded, you can't just unconcede.
>>539151624consider for example dota 2 that had 10.9 million monthly active users back in february 2015 (back then this number was published on the dota 2 blog publicly)in february 2015 dota 2 had an average concurrent player count of 628970, meaning there were roughly 17.3 times the amount of active users per average concurrent users https://www.gamesindustry.biz/dota-2-impresses-with-super-engaged-player-base-eedarin the last 30 days the deadlock average players has been 31,341this multiplied by 17.3 times 542200 monthly active players, and in turn average 12 games per personactivity was higher especially among newer players during the voting period, so the average is brought lower by that
>>539153232again, i concede nothing. get new bait.
>>539153271>comparing dota to dead-as-fuck-lockdisingenous
>>539153458and what part of dota makes it so unique in terms of concurrent-to-monthly active players again compared to this game or any other
>entire thread derailed by falling for low IQ obvious as fuck baitgod you people are fucking retarded
>>539153582A gorillion dollar prize pool and major tournaments to generate hype, next question
>>539153764TI5 took place in August, what part of this was relevant to February average player counts?
The numbers are fake.
>>539153842Idk, why are you worried about February player counts?
>>539154021They illustrate the difference between a player base and concurrent players.
>>539154139For dota 2.
>>539154238Yes, and this can then be used as an analogy for every other game, unless you can prove why Dota 2 is a special case.
>>539153591Has b4nny played deadlock?
>>539154378b4nny is an autistic fat hermit too stuck in his glory days to try anything new.shame because he got fucking smashed at his latest tournament by some literal who team.dude needs to hang it up and move on with his life instead of spamming 6s 6 hours a day just to lose and get knocked out early from a tournament.
>>539154358No it can't actually, you posted only one game, that's hardly enough evidence to make any conclusion.
>>539154442Crazy that people still play comp tf2.
Went 0-9 and got depressed so I left a match. How much trouble will I get?
>>539154378i think reality will come crashing down on b4nny if he plays anything other than tf2 and he knows that
>27 minute game>objective damage >0>0>775>309>904 GET ME OUT OF BRAZIL I HAVEN'T WON A GAME IN 10 MATCHES
>>539154632They're gonna doxx you on reddit, prepare for a million comments on your profile, reports, friend requests, a message from steam support, maybe even getting your entire account banned.
>>539154632>so I left a matchleaving is so much worse than just feeding, sending an icbm to your house
>>539154632Like a 20 minute ban
>>539154632Don't abandon matches, idiot. You won't get better by being a whiny baby with weak mental fortitude liek that.
>>539146941
>>539154632inshallah, you will be bred by momo and kareem
i may have lost the game but at least i didn't whine like a little bitch.
>>539154646the craziest thing most TF2 players who move on from TF2 have BIG success.Jerma, Star_ (Ster with his basically series), RTGame (mainstream youtuber), WAMO (Internet Anarchist now), Salty Phish.TF2 is literally holding the majority of the youtubers in their sphere back. it's a dead game with a shit viewer base.b4nny could make it if he played literally any other game. he's absolutely got the personality for it.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h1gRTDPkZdI
>>539153764This TI was a major flop what are you talking about?
>>539155051What does that have to do with 2015?
I can only enjoy Deadlock if I get to play my OP hero and if it has millions of viewers I will never meet or interact with.
>>539154943Composure (resistance to tilting) is the most important thing for long-term improving at anything competitive.>>539155096Yeah until they add draft then you have to learn a few more characters
>>539154951I kinda wish Tagg didn't fall off after tf2. He was my favorite tf2 personality after Star and Jerma.
Why would I play (hero that requires a lot of effort and apm) when I can play (hero that requires less and performs the same)
>>539155224and a FOV slider
>>539155286tagg's obscurity is self-inflicted, dude disappeared off the face of the earth for years
>>539154797>NOOOOOOOO YOU CAN'T DO WHAT MAKES YOU HAPPY YOU HAVE TO SUFFER WITH RETARDED TEAMMATES BECAUSE THIS IS A COMPETITIVE GAME NOT A CASUAL ONE!!!
doorman ult is so fun great mechanic very engaging
>>539155369Yea I know he disappeared. I think he was dealing with some mental issues or something.
>>539155286>>539155369Isn't tagg an unironic homo?
>>539155537Yea, but so am I.
Doorman ult should be this
>>539155286https://www.youtube.com/@ThatGuyTagg/videosI was going to point you in the direction of his new channel (@aPurpleDogg) but apparently dude has started uploading again on his main!I guess his physical therapy for his extremely fucked up spine has been starting to work out so he's back to uploading.>>539155458he was active on twitter, he just had really debilitating back issues and couldn't stream or upload.
>>539147269Spirit is more forgiving overall and is a different type of damage type, it's also stronger early game, that is the tradeoff for "less uptime"
>>539147391that's why we are in a spirit burst meta and the only reason gun is playable is because you'll have max 2 and people won't build armor against them.low elo retard.
>>539155693My main problem with spirit is that except for a few characters it's usually pretty bad at pushing objectives and if I don't kill walkers, no one will.
>>539154951I thought TF2tubers do very well still?
waaake me upwhen spiritmeta ends
>>539155398Do my parkour puzzle little monkey or your body will implodeIt'll still implode just a little less if you do
>>539155384Abandoning a match because you're angry makes you go from 8/10 on the anger scale to a 6/10.The composed, mature, mentally healthy player is at a 0/10 when he is losing and doesn't require quick fixes.You are making yourself angry. It's like how a nicotine addict feels anxious without having a cigarette for a few hours. When he gets to puff, he is brought down to the normal baseline that non-smokers feel all the time.
>>539155974they do "well" relative to the TF2 scene, but compare that to a fortnite/marvel rivals/overwatch youtuber and it's peanuts.like the only "popular" tf2 youtubers are LazyPurple and uncle danethe rest are literal who tier and are being held back by the scene.
>>539155904Yeah but whenever a spirit hero can nuke objectives too people here seethe and dilate (see Mina) I personally think they should get bonus damage vs objectives to a small degree, tards should be punished for letting their waves get pushed up whether it's a Wraith or a Lash pushing
>Yamato says "nice hair" after killing ShivJust something about the way she said it was so funny
>>539155663this except you're in a hotel room and doorman is bringing you a nice meal and gives you a massage
>>539156404https://deadlock.vlviewer.com/characters/yamato/lmao look how the lines are transcribed
>>539156171Keep making headcanons about me, faggot.
are the only servers available atm in the US?
>>539156687When you post stuff like this, you're sort of showing your hand. You are mad.
>>539125720>Not reloading it with quicksilver and also multiplying the damage with express shot + ricochet + splitshotNgmi
>>539156014as long as spirit damage exists the "spirit meta" will never end. you faggots were complaining about the "spirit meta" during the most gun heavy periods of the playtest. it was so crazy even LASH players were using gun builds and you'd still hear people whining about the supposed "spirit meta"
>>539156278I mean it's fine if not every character is good at everything I think. It just seems like a lot of people who play burst spirit heroes have this mindeset of "I don't do a lot of objective damage so I might as well do none at all" and so they always back off when a wave crashes at a walker.
>always end up with like 60 magazine size on Yamato because nobody takes the SInner's but me at my ELO love this
>>539156927Newfaggot detected. Go back to plebbit, ape.
>>539155693I don't know Spirit just feels like crap except on the characters who are pretty much exclusively meant to be spirit
>>539157129what's the cap on pot/sinner's bonuses?>>539157245lel mad
>>539155663doorman ult should alternate between reaching the door and delivering a package to a specific color coded door
>>539154589CS:GO back in July 1st, 2017 had 11,561,634unique players last monthIn June 2017, CS:GO had an average concurrent player count of 374,388This brings the multiplier to 30.88https://web.archive.org/web/20170701084815/http://blog.counter-strike.net/If we multiply 30.88 by Deadlock's average 31,341, we get a monthly active player base of 967,810Additionally every match gives out 12 votes, so your math was inherently flawed. This means that according to my previous math, every player would've needed to play 1 match. With this math, every player would need to play 0.517 matches to reach that vote count.
how important is it to break all the random shit around the map for the small bonuses?is there a cap to it?
>>539155384>ShitjakkerNevermind, you'll never be able to handle a game like this.
>>539156278spirit nuking objectives from 80-0 while out of the effective dive range of 90% of the cast while also silencing you is fucking retarded, yes.Bebop ult is a fair objective destroyer.Mina ult is not.got that through your retarded skull?
>>539157472there is no cap but it's not really important, it can add up to some pretty substantial advantages if you really focus on them though. Grabbing the sinner's sacrifice machines is your best bet if you want to buffmaxx
>>539155853You got it man, gun sucks haha yeah
>>539157472If they're close by they're worth shooting to see if they have anything. The ones right next to your lane are real nice and reward holding the center. For the side lanes, that's the two pots on the outer side and the one on the bridge.
FACT: sinners unironically ruined the game.
>win 5-7 matches in a row>rank doesn't go up>lose twice>rank goes down
Why does being in a hotel lobby hurt me?
>>539158258Stop checking your rank all the time. Sincerely, it's not beneficial for you.
>>539158302the Baroness was the most haunted hotel, you're getting jumped by spirits and getting your soul sucked out.
>>539157338Then why was there only 6 million votes?
why do I keep getting queued into american servers as eu?
>>539133463MAELK
>>539158258Stop chasing ranks
>>539158258>lose two drifter games>go down to alchemist six>win three/four drifter games in a row>become ritualist IVit’s just having a new account if you want to see rank change
>>539158558So we can make fun of you
>>539158484
>>539155663doorman ult should be 30 minutes of raw graphic footage of your hero prostate milking him
>>539158478>>539158601I don't lose sleep over it, I just wonder why it works like that
>>539158670this but only if he changes his form to a cute anthro fox.
Goatse doorman arcana when
>>539158558
do you think Valve will do "Persona" style skins in this game?
>>539106736>how strong is this character (vyper)5, hope she gets nerfed more
>>539159049I don't think it'd really fit the theme of the game
had a Abrams whining about Vyper getting buffs and then went "GG playing that Braindead hero" to my Vyper as fucking Abramsare these people even real?
should I bother learning deadlock or just stick to dota? deadlock feels way too overwhelming atm
>>539159049those were, sort of, being brainstormed in the vn>fairfax and hank (infernus friend) skim for geist
>>539145075The funny thing is that the gun sound of this mod and the ult sound are actually legit satisfying as hell. Don't use the mod myself but I saw streamers using it a long while ago and was surprised at the sound.
>>539159259There are pyro players that call spy braindeadThere are Huskar players that complain about InvokerNo matter what game you play you won't escape the unwashed masses of projecting shitters
>>539159281as someone who has playedLeague (6k+ hours)Dota (2 hours) andDeadlock (600 hours)Deadlock is infinitely easier to learn than DOTA and you won't get called 10+ slurs in voice chat on your literal first game as support for not knowing how macro works in Dota.
>>539145258It's just like Dota 2. They'll let us mod shit until the game releases then ban it/make it nigh impossible and sell skins.Never forget the Dota 2 beta days of Eternal Envy streaming with Fate Stay Saber juggernaut mod skin.
>>539158508Many may have played only a few games or not voted at all. Additionally the voting period ran for roughly a week only, with more people joining throughout the week rather than being there from the startAll game IDs are public btw, you can check yourself how many games were played during that time.
>>539159049Maybe, but I'd have to imagine that they won't be as drastic as Crystal Maden's because they can't(shouldn't) fuck with silhouettes too much.
>win lane>but your infernus lost>1-9 lost it>went...full green, contributes nothingbro don't fucking queue
Buffing Mina was a mistake I refuse to believe this character isn't broken
>>539158670Doorman is here to serve, not to rule. He should be milking your hero.
>>539154838Unironically this should be a forced video that plays the first three games you play Holliday. Cannot tell you how many newcomers to the hero think you're supposed to bounce them off the pad or melee them on the ground.
>>539159468deadlock feels insanely frustrating when your target escapes with 5% hp cause you missed your shot, at least that doesnt happen in dota since 95% of skills aren't skillshots
>>539159572>you buy slowing hex, a 1600 item>mina diesits literally this easy
>>539159784deadlock feels insanely satisfying when your target gets sniped as they ride the line back to their spawn
>>539159603maybe i want to milk him though.
>>539159049Damn, nobody told me CM had a skin where she was hot
>>539159994Real, I don't even play Dota and I bought her wolf persona on the off chance I ever start playing it.
>>539159970Then pick sinclair and copy his ult
This game feels more League than Dota tbqfah
>>539160226
>>539159784>Can't attack someone in dota because they went into some bushes
>>539159867I'm a gun character
>>539158508Bro... You can't be this stupidThis is bait.
>>539159867ah yes, my slowing hex on Vyper.now why didn't I think of that...
>>539160262
>no way the team with zero interpersonal communication lost by 1000 papercuts
>>539160340This might shock you, but you don't have to buy 12 gun items.
Have you thanked him today?
>>539160609Thank you Uncle Dane for bringing redditors into the Valve sphere, I don't know where I'd be without all the trannies and narcissists in my games. 3 cheers for uncle daneHip hip, hooray!Hip hip, hooray!Hip hip, hooray!
>>539160226wtf is wrong with furfags
Is Seven getting nerfed yet?
>>539161149lolnext you're gonna ask if Warden still has the best ult in the game.
>TINK TINK TINK TINK TINK TINKyou'd think warden's ult would sound a little different
>>539154767Oh fuck,fuck,fuck!!!
>Play with a group instead of solo>everyone feeding and brawling randomly as all the walkers diei dont think this game is going to be mainstream people have no clue wtf is going on
>>539154883They did that to me already.
>>539161358watch a random pub of dota
i NEED to rape ivy senseless
>>539161887Ivy is a gargoyle and any attempt at non consensual sex will result in being crushed to death by stone or your dick being ripped off after she reverts into a statue.
>>539161358>watch my new friend play>there's 5 people fighting in mid where all the boxes are>it's 6 minutes into the matchI'm jealous of them. This game looks like so much fun when everyone is shit.
Billy gets to bang THIS???
No matter how many times I rape Dynamo he refuses to be useless I actually hate itEvery single game I shit on a Dynamo in lane he then just dedicates his entire game to being a fucking pest by split pushing the entire match or he somehow becomes the tankiest piece of shit ever that deals zero damage but JUST GETS IN THE WAYI really can't stand this character man
>>539144473seriously just buy disarming hex and watch him stand around every fight because nobody playing this guy thinks enough to buy debuff remover
>>539161887I don't think it'd be that hard to just win her over normally.Trying to rape a gargoyle will just get your dick pulverized
>>539161990>>539162338sorry i meant i NEED to rape ivy (consensually)
>>539162191>Splitpushing Dynamo>Splitpushing "zero damage" Dynamowhat elo is this, bro
>>539162186DISGUSTING
>>539162395The purple one right after initiate
>>539162395>cast stomp once>blows up the entire wave???
>lane vs shitter doorman>wtf how is this guy just surviving every skirmish>paige lanemate going full green support>ok....what about our be->bebop going full green trophy collector mleap
>>539159049>human Abrams>Victor but alive>female drifter
what do i do, i'm so lost
>>539162041we kind of did that too except it was 6v5 in mid while their splitpusher tryhard took all our buildings while we werent good enough to fight them while outnumbering them
is mcginnis the best split pusher in the game or what
>>539162905Gun haze is the best
>>539162905Ivy (if you're smurfing)MinaSevenWraithDrifterIvy (if you're on elo)VyperMcGinnisin that order.
>Fucked up so hard during the shit test period of the game that my account is perma-bricked in initiate >Now I can't even win games even if I go 12-0 because everyone in my team is a genuine lobotomite How do I have fun losing?
>>539162905I think wraith is the best because she's so hard to punish, mcginnis is second best. Rest are not really that stand out. Ivy isn't good because she takes farm from actual carries doing it. Drifter is not good because his range is so low he is very punishable if hitting walkers.
>>539163239Do retarded builds and be a ratThe trenches are where you can have the most fun if you have the mindset for it.
>>539162186why would a reptile need those
>>539163484venom storage
>>539163450>because she's so hard to punishNot at all>Slowing Hex stops teleport/some characters have the mobility to punish it anyways>Ult is useless if multiple people gang up on her or have counterspellSeven is far better even thought he just has the stun.
>>539160780that's not too far off from the average user here
>>539163239play rat ivy, pisslow doesn't know how to punish Ivy and can't hit her with her 2 movespeed.that's how I got out of low prio queue (read, only allowed to play with dog euros and low elo until you win 4 games)
>>539160340>>539160413your bullets doing 5 more damage or losing the entire game, pick one dumbass. slowing hex gives you hp/move speed>but I should be able to just buy what I want and winunironically play marvel rivals if you don't actually want to counterbuild
>>539163239Go full unga bunga
>>539163239>In the same boat and stuck in initiate>Having fun stomping enemies even if I'm in the losing team>Win enough matches, rank started to go up, and game starts throwing me into way higher rank matches>Not having fun anymore if I'm in the losing team>Basically can't do anything aside of waiting to lose in 20 minutesTL;DRYou're already having fun losing by able to kill enemies.You will really hate it when you're in the losing team in higher rank, where the team is drooling retards and you can't even kill the well fed enemies
>>539163068How the fuck is Mirage not in this list?
>lose 10>win 10>lose 5>win 5>lose 8>win 8definitely just a skill issue nothing matchmaking related
bros the dota community is getting VERY angry with deadlock... this might get ugly
>>539164104because Mirage fucking sucks dick and does not do very impressive objective damage.he's only really good at 1v1ing and nuking players, not walkers, shrines, patron, etc etc.all of the characters on that list can 100-0 a walker in one wave.
>play against abrams>a single pixel of him touches me and i get dragged>play as abrams>phase through peoplehow the fuck does the shoulder charge work it's so shit
count fagula
>>539164270Every single game I played on Mirage today I had stats like this.
>>539163984But I've been put on matches 3-4 whole ranks brackets above mine and I've performed just the same as I do in initate (get kills but get shitstomped as a team), maybe even better because I actually could win a few games either by getting carried or actually having a team that wants and knows how to win.
>one engagement with haze>1k damage from bullets>1k damage from fixation>1k damage from capacitorwhy are passive on hit 100% extra damage items/abilities in the game? they don't take any kind of extra skill at all. you do the same thing literally everyone else does but you get extra damage for free (or 6.4k)
>>539164676You fought the on-hit character
new vindicta model when
>>539164782you guys have to be the most retarded people on this board >"on hit passives are stupid">"you fought on hit character"you are literally saying NOTHING why even reply
>>539164676Attack Damage Carry, or ADC for short, is one of the core roles of any moba. They specifically are meant to be able to deal great damage without expending cooldowns or (when applicable) mana. While this is strong, the catch is that their early game is usually incredibly weak, lower health/no room for defensive items, and they require a lot of farm to get items that support their playstyle. Haze for example gets a massive amount of damage from her fixation stacks but to optimize this she needs a ton of items to increase her fire rate to allow her to just melt people.
>>539164406sexo
>>539165010Your comment said nothing and got the same quality in response.
>>539164589>getting carried or actually having a team that wants and knows how to win.I thought you just want to have fun while losing.If you want overall match quality, both win & lose, then yeah, you will want to rank up.And the only way is keep playing, or hope they reset the rank.
>>539165154you said nothing again you're fucking with me its ok though I laughed at this so you win
>>539165040fair enough but capacitor doing the same amount of damage as fixation is kind of crazy no? was it buffed recently? I remember it being shit but I never used it much myself
>high mmr streamer>uses like 10 UI "mods" (cheats)
played for 5 hours at launch then stopped. new update has me interested, how easy is it to hop back into the game?
Have you changed default crouch and dash keys?
>>539165830I did the same recently, my first 4 or 5 games people were significantly above my skill level, after that it was fine
once you get to 50 games do you switch to playing ranked whenever it's up??? i'm so nervous
>>539164259Why?Didn't they just have their big tournament?
>>539165847i have caps lock rebound to ctrl. so kind of
>>539166090yes but the tournament was, as they say, mid and with no hero or patch dropped
>>539166025there is no ranked/every match is already ranked
this is what ivy gameplay is
>>539166630she's so cool...
can you be good at pocket as a 30 games played player? i could kinda of play puck in dota
>>539166630ivy gameplay is me deleting the mina as soon as she comes within 15 feet because gun ivy is op as fuck
Perfectly balanced, as all thing should be.
>>539166363raw, balls deep, until he's in tears and i'm shooting blanks
>>539165736It had its active damage halved but the passive was raised from 45 to 50. It's always just been a pretty good tier 4 with high fire rate.
>>539167003>because gun ivy is op as fuck
>>539166630cool cool, HOWEVER
why does lash rape every game I'm in why does nobody buy fucking knockdowns or counter spells or anything that stops lash throwing them into towers like how he already did 4 times already in this singular fucking matchwhy is it always me who has to buy knockdown
>>539168207>Knockdownshe gets the ult off before it goes off>counter spellwith how dogshit the audio occlusion in this game is, sometimes you just straight up can barely hear it over the teamfight.also he is just broken, flat out.
I love how this game has no cosmetics, it's just nice playing a game where shitty costumes aren't being shoved down your throat or blasting out your eyeball focus with bright sparkly lights
>>539167003build?
>>539168403Enjoy it while it lasts
>>539168394knockdown is still pretty good for lash since I thhhhhhink he gets a long stun due to being in a flying state when ultingMight be talking out of my ass
>play Vyper>lose>do it again
>>539169010I NEVER see this hero picked
>Decided to watch a few intros of MK1>Johnny Cage's voice sounds extremely familiar>Just realized he's the VA behind LashNow I'm wondering if the reason behind Lash's personality is due to him being voiced by Johnny Cage's VA.
How much longer til characters like Grey Talon or Calico get remodeled? Grey Talon is fun to play but my God does his design suck ass.
>>539169317soon™
>>539169010
well?
>>5391696341111111111111
I fucking hate McGinnis. In my pisslo she's like top of the top tier.
>>539168453this one, however i don't buy veil walker and i buy suppressor and mystic slow pretty soon after tesla
i miss breadlock poster and the drawfag of the loli versions...
>>539169634meanwhile every infernus I get on my team is fucking retarded
>>539169789she is also top of top in high mmr where she has a very high winratetotal mcniggus sweep
I feel like I don't feel the impact of my items like I do in Dota. It's like there's nothing where I can pick up an item then show up to a fight that goes drastically better for me because I spiked off this item.
How have your faired with health if no veil walker? I've done this but I go to base to heal a lot if they have billy/drifter/mo because they are in my jungle a lot
>>539170220>>539169819you fucking idiot how have you faired with ivy's titties bouncing on your screen
>make a surprising comeback>all goes to waste because Paige overextended and got picked>5v6, lose the team fight, lose the game
>>539169207Someone answer this question before another anon makes a new general because I dont wanna re-type the question again.
>>539170220i either grab heal rite in lane and just pop that on cd, or i grab bullet lifesteal for the eventual vamp burst
>silence wave>AoE silence, 3.5 seconds>3200 souls>focus lens>single target silence, 4.5 seconds>6400 soulswhat did they mean by this? curse exists for 6400 and it completely fucks someone over for the duration, meanwhile you can just debuff remove lens>inb4 damage increasewave has spirit res reduction as well.
>>539170965nobody buys focus lens and that's why
>>539170820brother how the fuck would we know
I wanna play billy,mo,Paige,viscous and wraith what should I know
>>539170868Just to spite your stupid ass "question">>539171696>>539171696>>539171696
>>539170868>>539171751My b i'm really tired, meant the one above you.
>>539169634i hope they publish the results of these polls somewhere at some point.i want them to finally realize some of these niggers are really not fun to play against.
>>539160609>hours long video just for collecting literally-whos saying a wordwhat are americans so obsessed?
>>539108470GOD I need broodmother so bad. I also want clockwerk timbersaw or tidehinter
