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Praying Mantis Edition

>News
Angela Character Reveal: youtu.be/WVc4uTJmKy4

Season 4: The Heart of the Dragon Official Trailer: youtu.be/67FVMNGMFXU

Season 4 Battle Pass: Fruit of Immortality Official Trailer: youtu.be/D85112C9_O0

Dev Vision Vol. 09: youtu.be/dRUcdKzw6nQ

Version 20250904 Patch Notes: www.marvelrivals.com/gameupdate/20250902/41548_1257307.html

2x Chrono-Storm duration: x.com/i/status/1960364095133061345

Klyntar: Resource Rumble game mode trailer: youtu.be/pGfp8UJDpdg

Klyntar: Throne of Knull Map Reveal: youtu.be/P44x3oxvhFY

Blade Character Reveal: youtu.be/SJwI30KsqK8

>Skins
Peni's Wasteland Mech skin: x.com/i/status/1962915927751901597

Scarlet Witch's Phoenix Chaos skin: x.com/i/status/1960379210834247900

Iron Man's Extrembiote Armor skin: x.com/i/status/1958182245052903907

Winter Soldier's Polarity Soldier and Cloak & Dagger's Polarity Bond skins: x.com/i/status/1955328431203172619

Blade's Polarity Edge skin: x.com/i/status/1952761517256184008

Magik's Phoenix Demon and Black Panther's Phoenix Panther skins: x.com/i/status/1950010981591241126

The Fantastic Four's First Steps skins: x.com/i/status/1947695635916067128

>Links
Hero Hot List: marvelrivals.com/heroes_data/
Guides & News: marvelrivals.gg/
Tracker Resources: rivalstracker.com
Mobalytics Page: mobalytics.gg/marvel-rivals
FANDOM Wiki: marvelrivals.fandom.com/

Previously on /mrg/: >>539023798
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CELESTIALS IN GOLD YOU CAN MAKE THIS SHIT UP
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I played a million games
But only won one match
So since my rank is low
Send bots or I’ll throw

EOMM is strong
They claim it’s not in the game
But now the match is fucked
And there a healer to blame

(RIP IT UP!) (Move down)
(RIP IT UP!)
Move it down back to Bronze
(RIP IT UP!) (Cool down)
(RIP IT UP!)
I can’t fucking get out of Gold

Everybody play ranked tonight
(Everybody play ranked tonight)
Everybody K’un-Lun tonight
(Everybody play ranked tonight)
(Everybody K’un-Lun tonight)
Everybody play ranked
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>>539137945
placement games are too hard to implement please understand
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Predicting Hand Punisher skin when Daredevil drops
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>11% accuracy on hela
It's over for me.
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>>539137945
just wait to weeks bro
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Carol S5 or EOS
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>>539138334
Dios mio... La Bestia de La Mano...
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WASP IS DUMB AND STUPID
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>>539138323
Need harsher penalties for quitters, I don't care what mode it is
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>>539138596
I've been seeing more Angelas in ranked than qp wtf, elo terrorists
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>>539138323
>They implement "placement matches"
>Its just a few unranked games that place you around where the reset would've put you before
>All while changing nothing else about the ranked system (like climbing on negative win rate)
I can already see this happening
And reddit will go
>THE DEVS LISTENED
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>>539139338
whoops didn't mean to reply lmao
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What is with this game and blow outs? I have had 3-4 games now where I am on a team and we get zero kills and violently lose a game. Like really BAD blow outs. Its insane. Is this all because of the rank resets? I was platnium and now I am silver.
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But I don't wanna play PsylockBuckyHelaStrangeEmma for a whole season again!
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>>539139639
>Hela
Phoenix
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>>539138334
That looks retarded
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>>539139551
retards get tilted easily and rush alone after getting killed instead of waiting for the team
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>>539139329
Penalties for people leaving in modes outside of Comp were the most retarded addition in the history of multiplayer gaming
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Who counts as a main DPS in this game?
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>>539139639
no one's forcing you to bwo
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>>539139639
meant for >>539139467
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when does it make sense to use mr fan
>>539139914
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>>539139297
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Just played Thor for the first time
He's fun and I had a good time :)
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>>539141158
Based Practice vs AI bro
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Gooning to Venom
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ps4 fag and new player here, Holy shit this plays like ass in some maps with horrible lag loading in, on the brightside, I won my first 4 matches, it's all down hill now
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>>539141528
lag only when loading in?
Thats actually fucking amazing
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>>539139836
>what counts as a main DPS no one has really explained well yet
Any duelist with high raw damage output. They can be a flanker or more of a brawler. They typically have ults that either pull support ults, or counter them.
Most duelists besides the tank/duelist hybrids and dedicated divers can be "main DPS", including all the ones you listed
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Most duelists suck and don't know how to play this game
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>>539141528
>PS4 player
Fucking kek
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>>539141701
it runs smooth enough, given the quality of everything else is forfeit in order for it to even run. I loaded into a fresh match and finally was able to pick a character after the count down to the start of the match ended.
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I don't know how to play the game. Vanguard main btw.
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You already know the one thing holding this game back is there's no first person mode.
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>supports getting btfo by BP
Nobody swaps to Cloak and Dagger
I hate other support players why are they all so dogshit it's not that hard
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>>539142163
me throughout the match
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We need more Angelas
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>first week of the season
>play only with bots to do event challenges
feelsgoodman
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RAPE MANTIS
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>>539142841
Literally me
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>>539142926
Mantis does the raping
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>>539143275
Did you know you can hit the purple ghost to wake your teammates early
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>>539142163
>>539142567
I exclusively play as Angela because I have AGP
>>539143392
Why the fuck would I do that instead of just hitting mantis?
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>>539141461
Gooning to you
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>>539109839
wdym why? new season = rank reset, i was gold b4
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>>539142525
If she's not available, your only recourse is to pick either Invisible Woman or Mantis. The problem with either is that even IF you can survive, that's constant harassment where you're not healing your team. You really have to look out for your backline, that's more a duelist job than a tank in most cases
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Why is Angela so fucking hot?
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>>539144576
CnD never have to stop healing when being dove. You literally just drop bubble and ignore the BP until he runs out of cooldowns
This is why people insist that BP doesn't need nerfs or reworks. There are characters who counter him by ignoring him.
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>>539144820
You like men
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EOMM DOES NOT EXIST
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pb3GPBuLMwc
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A Wuxia season is fucking odd. So instead of Shang-Chi who's become a cultivator, you add....a devout Catholic and a Spawn immigrant?
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>>539146023
If you actually read the justifications made by the devs as for why they chose Daredevil and Angie they're actually pretty interesting
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>>539146023
>wanting another DPS
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>>539146213
I just read it before posting and it's still whack.
>>539146216
Did I specifically say DPS?
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https://comicvine.gamespot.com/profile/inhuman/lists/marvels-asian-characters/19816/

https://marvel.fandom.com/wiki/Category:Buddhist_Characters
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>Every time I watch an SG killcam its just them vaguely spamming their primary fire in the general direction of the enemy and accidentally getting kills
Is the skill floor and skill ceiling for this character just the exact same thing? The porn has to be what draws people to this character cause it definitely isnt the NPC levels of gameplay design
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>barely peaking 100k on the first weekend of the new season
grim
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I have 2696 units and one exchange token. The only thing I think i want is iron man's endgame outfit but other than that nothing else is really speaking to me.
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>>539146481
yes, SG and Wanda are low skill characters for new/consoles players
and thats OK

Thats why SGs M1 was nerfed
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>>539146806
dont like Helas or Sues upcoming skins?
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>trying out the human torch tech
my fingers hurt
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>>539146023
Well the timeline entanglement makes for strange bedfellows, although the REAL reason is to make Lin Lie the real Iron Fist in a roundabout way since he only has Shou Lao's chi due to the dragon taking pity on him instead of beating him.
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>>539146707
That's a good thing, let the devs sweat a bit, they've had it too good.
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How do you counter triple support, a diver, and Angela all at once?
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>>539146981
Nah I don't play them. I like the peni wasteland mech but i don't play her either so I feel like it would be a waste
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>>539146912
>SGs M1 was nerfed
Recently? Cause it felt like it nearly oneshots people for the longest time
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>>539147306
the damage her m1 does long range was nerfed this season
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>>539146481
I run SG when I see triple support. Works well enough, and they dont have enough damage to contest me either
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>>539147306
Yes.
Technically here's your skill ceiling too, better blockade management for greater rewards. Besides actually hitting something of course.
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>>539141701
Rare cute comic art. Incredible!
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>>539146023
>Banner and Hela don't have slow walk on pc because ummm... reasons
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>>539147248
Bucky
>Knock angela down with voltage
>Uppercut divers has an earthbound, meaning they cant use movement abilities for a full second
>slight AOE high damage primary will force the healers back or die
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NERF JEFF
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>>539142163
>>539142567
>>539145031
>>539146023
>>539146295
>>539146707
>>539147021
All true and honest posts
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How do you counter Star Lord?
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>>539148260
NO, YOU WILL KNEEL BEFORE THE SHARK
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Two tanks are absolutely ass against fliers but I have a solution for both.
1) Cap: Make the Thor team up a regular move. Now he has something that will give him a ranged move on command to deal with fliers.
2) Venom: Give him a get over here. He can use it bring fliers to him, then tether them so he can start wailing on them.
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>>539148494
Dance off
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Phoen*x should have been a s*pport
Bl*de should have been a t*nk
Ang*la should have even a DPS
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>>539142525
>>539144576
>would rather fumble around on shit and fagger and mantis than just play ultron and completely invalidate the character
Supportsissies everyone
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>>539142126
kek

>>539142149
How long have you been playing this game and who do you play?
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>>539148494
>normally
tanky characters with forgiving primary attacks like MrF, Blade, Bucky, Emma
shoot him enough and he will have to fuck off
>ult
he has one of the best ults in the game so it's reasonable to counter with a support ult
otherwise try to protect your supports with shields, runes, soul bond, etc
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>>539146481
>cause it definitely isnt the NPC levels of gameplay design
It is what draws them in. You have no idea how bad the average player of this game is and how badly they depend on characters like SG, MK and witch to play the game for them
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>>539148793
Sorry I actually want my team to stay alive
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>>539148965
And I think it's funny you think CnD is actually good at doing that
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>>539148494
Mag as much of his value is connected to his ult. Higher dmg hitscan also cucks him if you play DPS
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magik could easily smoke angela, fuck whoever nerfed her in the ultimate and rivals comics!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XtYrDyREVYc
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>>539077205
>TTK is like 20 fucking seconds unless enemy supports are literal retards (which admittedly is quite often)

For who? Hulk or Venom?
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Why doesn't Luna ult have a cast time?
I know the actual answer is shes the Dev pet, but what answer do delusional Luna defenders have?
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>>539149138
I'm a lord CnD
They are very good at keeping their team alive
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>Tried Emma for the first time the past few games
The fact that people try to argue here that this character isnt busted is insane, this thick bitch is not only the best tank but really feels like one of the best DPSers in the game
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https://files.catbox.moe/cu3njg.mp4
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>>539149481
Uh Venom does insane DPS with his M1*
*If you can land all 4 and all 4 crit**
*Which isn't happening.
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>>539146481
Well it's not like the game and characters are actually hard to learn, game caters super hard to marvel fans. I just like playing SG cause she is thick as fuck and makes most players and redditors seething. If you have a lick of aim you can hit some nutty shots and can even deal with air targets time to time. You even get the super rare off chance where your ult insta kills supports out their ult if they stand between two lucky bounces.
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I am enjoying this season's lore
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>>539148494
cockblock his ult with Strange shift+shield
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I am enjoying this season's hot babe
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>>539144967
Again, if she's not available.
>>539149138
You must suck shit with her. Her kit is great
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>>539145031
I like women, Angela is a woman
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>>539141804
Thanks anon
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>>539149981
>I'm a lord CnD
That doesn't mean much
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>>539146023
>Spawn Immigrant
How dare you!!?
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Moon Knight should get a Thor team up where he gets Ginnarr The Hoarding Blade. Little backstory:
>Moon Knight is fighting a mob boss called Fairchild that turns out to be a literal who Asgardian farmer, a no name demigod trying to act big and sell pixie dust to create a drug empire
>Fairchild's bodyguard is an ex-ROXXON security mercenary, wielding a magic soul stealing sword she got in Vanaheim when the Dark Elves invaded Midgard (it was this whole event)
>Marc willfully gets stabbed by the sword, his soul enters the blade
>The blade's will/consciousness is the soul of a dragon, the very first thing the sword killed that resulted in its nature being changed. The dragon soul now collects souls while within the blade
>Marc advises the dragon it fucked up, as Khonshu has claim to his soul. Khonshu shows up pissed
>Marc returns to his body, and now gets a soul sucking sword in his arsenal

Should be a close range sweeping attack
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> people repeated like parrots that it ain't good to rank in the first few weeks
> it's actually the best way to rank up, because while you get horrible players, good ones are still in your rank
> the game becomes a boring grind, waiting and avoiding players until you get decent teams, but you actually go up fast

I know the other solution would be to stack up, but I'm too autistic to deal with strangers (and all my friends dropped this game months ago).
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>>539151680
Sad, there isn't enough daredevil models for AI
And there's no Rivals for him either
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>Hawkeye destroying team
>They have so much push and pull due to Thor, Hawk, IW, and Mister Fantastic
How do you counter this? They purposely keep everyone off Hawk but if you go after the fuckers playing keep away, Hawk kills you.
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what's the point in getting better if you're just gonna get matched with the most retarded dogshit teammates possible.
i'm tired boss.
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Man Thor really gets to be the most broken character in the entire game for yet another season huh
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Can I opt Strange to diamond? (Yes i know diamond players are Gold now)
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if the total amount of kills on one team gets to the point where its 50 more than the opposing team the game should automatically end and send everyone back to matchmaking, because a stomp that hard was simply a failure of matchmaking and the system should treat like that match never happened
simple as
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>>539153621
yes strange fits on literally every team comp
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>>539153595
sorry bro he gets to delete every squishy in the game in 0.2 seconds he's just bad bro please bro he's bad bro
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>>539153621
Worked for me
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>>539153429
Someone answer me?
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>all servers are dead except for NA
is this game actually doomed?
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>>539154292
Stop being shit idk
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>>539154292
iron fist
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>>539153429
Phoenix? Hela? Don't need to push Clint when he gets two tapped
Phoenix is also good at blowing up tanks
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>>539154740
>lying tranny
always instant QP queues on EU
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>Solo tanking with 3 divers who are constantly dying
>My team decides to swap at the last 30 seconds
>Ask for a Namor as I can't protect team from both Iron Fist and Magik
Idk what to fucking do.
Idk what to do anymore.
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>"fuck it, guess I might as well climb out of Bronze again"
>load into game
>lord Peni
>on PAYLOAD OFFENSE
It's gonna be a long night
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>>539155005
>QP
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>>539155305
Everyone (casuals, console players) plays QP, or Arcade
ranked can die (or it is already) and it wouldnt matter
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Strange is such a great tank, always has been
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>>539155631
True
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>>539155305
yes, this is a casual game first and foremost
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>>539153595
He needs to go back to fucking old Thor already but keep the grounding on his lighting realm.
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>>539156008
And the awakening cancel
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Bucky’s buff this season is such fucking bullshit man. What the fuck were they smoking to think this retarded nigger who features in every match needed an additional buff?
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>>539155261
You're welcome for the win btw
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>>539156078
Eh. It is nice but I’m fond of the idea of having to commit to the risk that comes with entering the super high damage mode.
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>>539156152
Fuck diveniggers, fuck Angela, and fuck (You)
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>>539138334
would be neat
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>jeffs just dead the entire match
>finally pulling up a fight when he swaps to rocket
>dps lags out

Have you ever gotten those matches where the game just does everything in its power to make sure you lose
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>Wanna play DPS
>It's always 1/3/2 or 0/4/2
>Forced to always go tank or support due to this
They need to add role queue already
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>>539153432
The game encourages queueing up with others but Jesus Christ this community is full of anti-social people in a social team game of all games. What's the point in adding someone if you never play with them?
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They really need to massively increase the healing output of Ultron and Mantis
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>>539155261
>team goes into first round with 3 tanks
>someone eventually swaps to Lord Wanda
>THEYRE USING A CONTROLLER
>IN A PC LOBBY
>team randomly bounces between 3 and 1 tank throughout the round
>lose
I love bronze
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>>539156321
Awakening wasn't nearly high enough DPS to be worth the risk. It's only the same as Emma fully charged and that's with the cancel to reduce end lag. Any higher and he'll basically be Squirrel Girl.
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>>539156152
I forgot what did he get for buffs again?
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>>539157280
>THEYRE USING A CONTROLLER
>IN A PC LOBBY
This happens WAY too often, even in higher ranks
They are also ALWAYS the worst player on the team (no surprise there tho)
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>>539157141
You can make an argument for ultron but the healing output for mantis currently is fine and she's received nothing but buffs for her healing stop trying to face tank everything
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>>539153074
Please don’t post this again
>>539151680
>>539152854
Cringe
>>539151398
Based
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>>539146295
Shang-Chi is held hostage for MCU Synergy while the movie is in limbo.
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>>539157354
Punch after the charge grounds now.
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>>539157280
>THEYRE USING A CONTROLLER
>IN A PC LOBBY
Based high test gamer wanting a challenge
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>>539157354
Trooper punch stops movement ability for 1s.
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>>539157696
Oh I can see why that would be annoying but I'm not exactly opposed to having more effective anti dive options than just thing, peni and namor so I'll remain quiet for now
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>>539148494
>ult as starlord
>LEE...
>not 0.1s later
>US AGAINST THE WORLD
fuck this shit like fr, and they charge theirs so much quicker
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fuck muties! we need inhumans in this game
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>>539152854
I think any king of Team Up with Thor would be a good idea since Mjolnir is made of moon rock. As an aside, that while arc of MK going against vampires was kino.
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>>539158226
kind*
>>539158156
Black Bolt would be a funny one to add. He just speaks and team wipes everyone.
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>>539157141
As an Ultron main, I think making his Iron Man team up a default skill on a longer cooldown would be more fair. Buffing his drone too much would make him broken.
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>>539158373
not if reed has something to say!
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>>539148726
only the first take is correct
blade is as dps as a character can be, and angela being femthor (aka whor) makes sense for a tank
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>>539157396
They were, in fact, the worst player in the lobby
They would ghost form on Wanda and just not move. Almost like a bot.
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>>539158551
If you're using the Ultron teamup other than snipe healing while rushing from spawn, you're doing something wrong with Ultron. You trade so much DPS for something weaker than a Jeff beam, let other healers bail out the out of position teammates while you peel for them with primary.
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>They came back
>Saw no name Angela
>Saw MM is still shit
>Saw ranked is still shit
>:Left
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>>539159954
>They came back
>Saw no Carol
>Left
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>>539159954
>he came back
>was still Indian
>left a shit in the thread
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>>539159134
Ideally you use it for both healing and dps, but yes, it's better as a healing tool. And it is more fair than giving his AOE drone more healing.
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>still defending netease for free
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Rolling supports who steer the team into a loss has to be the most obnoxious way to lose in this game
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>>539156263
Sometimes I think I am more interested in looking at Peni or Susan's rear than actually playing the game, but then again, that's what smutbase is made for.
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>>539146707
This bronze rank is impossible to get out of, everyone keeps quitting and the game punishes you for having a quitter im stuck bronze 1 forever im doing shitty silver matches in bronze...plus the chrono shield just makes people troll games.This game ranked is somehow worst than leagues.
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Is a team of
>Dagger 25-11 DMG: 21K H: 22K
>Ultron 17-6 DMG: 12K H: 30K
>Bucky 24-9
>Angela 31-7
>Thor 31-8
>Captain America 32-8

Bad? Who's at fault for the loss? Because I'm leaning towards the Bucky who can't kill for shit despite weakened enemies, and can't take on Blade 1v1
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>>539160782
stat padding doesn't really matter when you don't make plays or play the objective. the c&d died a lot.
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>>539160782
your cloak and dagger played too aggressive and didn't heal enough (assuming they were on C&D the whole time)
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Have they adjusted the MVP system?
I used to be able to very consistently farm MVP with CnD but I've only gotten it once today. I've been seeing Angela and Thor get it a bunchz
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>>539161873
new characters always have favorable MVP calculation
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MVP should be up to a vote
SVP shouldn't exist
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>>539161989
and it's bs! thing, ultron and blade still not fixed!!
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>Supports popping ults for no reason
>Tanks hiding behind healers
>Assassin DPS is charging the enemy front line
AAAAAAHHHHHH HOW THE FUCK DO I GET OUTTA BRONZE!!!???
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Why is it so fucking hard to get healers that dedicate themselves to healing in qp? You see people pick jeff and they just run off, fuck up plays with their ult and just fucking shit the bed in all regards in an attempt to not heal for 8 minutes.

I swear this playerbase deserves black panther, sometimes I just let him farm my backline because the support players in this game deserve it
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>>539159082
I currently have a 74% winrate on Wanda in over 20 rank games
I genuinely believe the reason Wanda's overall win rate is so low is because shitters like that think playing the "no aim" character will magically carry them to victory, despite their complete lack of positioning or game knowledge
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>>539162262
trash take desu
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>>539162325
Carry nigga or wait for the level to equalize
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Classic Cap is so fucking fat
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>>539162414
In my experience it has been a lot of luna players doing this. Insta lock in luna so you think they're a a support main or something. You load in and they're wearing the swimsuit skin, okay they clearly like this character.
They then proceed to spend the entire match trying to do anything but heal. The rare times you actually see them even press their ult they're not on the team and they're spamming it between heal and move speed like retards.

These "people" are a mystery.
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>>539162325
The enemy team is most likely doing the same shit
Just carry it yourself if you are better
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>>539161286
>>539161780
Cloak and Dagger was doing plenty of heals and played aggressively because no one was killing the enemy, when everyone was topped off mind you
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>>539162325
I think hybrid characters are the best way to climb at the bottom.
Its the only way to make sure that at least 2/3 functions are being "done" (so Ultron, Mr Fantastic, etc).
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>>539162414
It's QP: there are no bans and its a dive fest.

Nobody wants to support in there, and if they do, its just to Lord farm or troll.
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>anon was the shitter c&d frontlining and spending too much time in cloak form
lmao
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>>539162325
DON'T PLAY RANKED! Jesus Christ you people are retarded, every season we go through this, wait 2 weeks for all the ranks to adjust
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>New season barely breaks 100k
It's over, isn't it?
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>>539159954
Where's the retard that don't even know basic math now?
I need to listen to his next excuse on why this is a normal and good thing.
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>>539162414
Because they're dogshit.
/mrg/ doesn't want to accept this
Reddit doesn't want to accept this
The community in general doesn't want to accept this but support players are going to determine whether you win or not because they're too OP and essential to the team, its not just Quickplay either it seeps into Competitive. When you have a Healer who's frontlining and dying or a Jeff who's dying on every ultimate cast then they're just terrible players abusing the game's generosity of letting them play how they want as opposed to playing for the team. This particular role is full of so many bad players that personally Ive lost any respect for anyone who calls themselves a support main because the correct way to play this game is by flexing, which way too many players are comfortable not doing.
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>>539151680
>I AM ANGELA, BLADE OF HEVAN! I HAVE NEVER KNOWN DEFEAT IN THE BEDROOM!
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>>539163364
elfag at it again blaming everyone but himself
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>>539163364
N-word people have been complaining about the Supports being OP since launch
Shut the fuck up
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>>539163364
>Ive lost any respect for anyone who calls themselves a support main because the correct way to play this game is by flexing
I have always felt like this. Any one who has any kind of "main" I think is a retard and a shit player by definition. The sheer fact being flex isn't the first and fore front of your mind tells me everything I need to know about you, and it's that you're bad at the game.
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>>539163364
This
Supports don't carry your team to victory, they are the bare minimum needed for you not losing the game, but a lot of that can't even do that, like, people will double support ult in celestial for fucks sake
And don't even get me started when you happen to get 3 support one tricks on your team, its almost an auto loss because if triple support is not working you are doomed as they can't play anything else
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I'll never swap off Jeff.
If he gets banned, I pick Adam, simple as.
>not enuff healz!!111
Pick Ultron, go triple support.
>muh ult!!!111!
Tough luck, chum.
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>>539162325
I can't count how many times I've randomly ended up tanking as a support or dps because my tank keeps running away from the frontline as soon as an engagement starts
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>>539160367
jej
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>>539164045
Based
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>>539164045
This is not a problem. Jeff has 10/10 heal sustain, its when your ult plays are ass little bro. Youre just inting
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Still shant be falling for the paid "jeff is le bad" psyop
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>>539163154
Its definitely over
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Bros, I have lost 22 of my last 25 games over the past 2 days, how do I cope? I'm about to punch a hole through my monitor
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Still shan't be falling for the paid "ultron is le bad" psyop
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>tell supports theyre trash
>jeff who has 10 deaths against no dive goes straight to all chat in full bitch made mode to call me a bad hulk player
>enemy players literally call me the most annoying player and low key carrying the lobby

Yes its me elsexyboy lol
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>>539166227
is that even a thing? feels like people only said this we he debuted and couldn't understand his value
pros rate him high in the current meta
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>things that definitely happened
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While bad support does exist, this sounds like bad DPS cope. Duelists rarely counter, know more than one Duelist, are usually one tricks, don't know how to work as a team to support ANY ally, and less likely to swap roles/flex.
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>>539166264
As someone who has played tank the most, I always focus on healing above everything else when I'm playing a strategist, because I know a good tank with consistent healing can damn near solo carry a victory.
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>>539166345
The retarded metal ranks are still calling him bad because he can't burst heal and keep people alive when someone got focus or dived.
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>>539166345
>pros rate him high
Which means literally nothing when timmy two thumbs can't hit anything on Ultron
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>>539166583
And Timmy Two thumbs won't be playing anything else but Ultron if he's that bad and has no game sense to switch.
I dunno why people bother asking bad players to switch in low elo stakes, they are more likely to be one-tricks than some noob that's trying everything.
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>>539166583
I can. I consistently do well on Ultron, esp. in a triple support comp, but I'm a DPS at heart. It does help that I don't need to constantly shoot healing orbs and can focus on enemies.
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>>539142163
>can't even see the skins you paid hard earned units for
naw
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>>539166227
>>539166345
What setup allows Ultron to go 2 healer, if at all? Is he better elevated or grounded behind the frontline?
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>>539166345
Shitters still don't know how to play in a 2 support comp with him
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>>539166991
Good for you, but you'll still see people instalock Ultron and miss everything. Pros saying a character is good doesn't necessarily relate to the performance of the character at any level under. Or his _perceived_ performance from people who expect a healbot up their ass 24/7.
This is like Mantis being rated very highly. Does this apply to the majority of the playerbase?
Of course you'll still find the usual suspects at the top like Psylocke, Mag, Emma, Luna, Loki. But this isn't always reflective of what people encounter or feel in their games.
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>>539111220
>>539078946
that list was from trustme not flats I would never post a tier list from a fuckoff who doesnt compete in rivals tournaments
I only trust lists from pros who play for money not streamers made popular by shitters watching them who dont know better

>>539085175
every single person who plays in the ignite tournaments unanimously agrees fantastic is the worst character in the game

Here is another list from another ignite pro aramori
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>>539167586
>What setup allows Ultron to go 2 healer
Any setup where the other support focuses entirely on healing. I can make up for their lack of DPS.
He can do well elevated or grounded depending on the context. Your damage falloff is low, so you can snipe from a distance, but it's good to ground yourself when taking damage and being near your droned allies fo self heal. Ultron is about multitasking and if you can do that well, you and your team will be rewarded for it.
But I do think triple support with a single good DPS and 2 tanks is the superior comp.
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>>539167920
See I rarely go Ultron because solo matching often results in members of your party splitting up to often. Ultron I know works best playing hot potato with the drone but I'm open to other tips
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>>539167805
>every single person who plays in the ignite tournaments
ah yes, 0.001% of the playerbase, their experiences clearly matter for for everyone else
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>>539167586
Basically this>>539167920 the real problem with ultron is the same as adam which is that a lot of the time your duo support is doing anything but heal so they don't make up for the small gaps of no healing but because this community can't form thoughts of their own they just blame the character they've been told to hate instead of actually paying attention to who's actually doing their job
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>>539168048
https://youtu.be/xl37ePRTEqs
This is a good Ultron guide, imo. But if he doesn't fit your play style, that's fine. I picked him up as a former IM main and haven't looked back since, because I have good aim and that's what sets me apart from casual Ultrons.
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>>539167783
>>539167805
for those who dont understand these ratings;
mantis, ultron, and adam are rated highly because of the shift in the support meta
players adapted to loki-luna by comboing phoenix and magneto ults, this brought adam up as a 3rd supp
in addition to that comp the Voltron style comp where you play torch, 2 healers, ultron, and magneto just got a buff by adding invis into the comp instead of luna/loki adding a team up for torch, another way to keep him and ultron alive, and buffs to her ult
so now with luna/loki being directly nerfed this opened up a new general use composition
you play mantis, ultron/adam, and then one of the main healers of luna, invis, or cloak and dagger
these comps have the dps value of 2/2/2 comps with the healing value of main healers but the utility of the off-supports
throw a top tier dps like torch or phoenix for the carry and the typical mag/emma frontline and you have every angle covered
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>>539167805
See it's really funny to see Bucky being rated as, dare I say it, balanced. And then your turn around to everyone else complaining.
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>>539168352
Ultron guy here. To me the perfect comp is Hulk + Namor, triple support and any other tank. This comp has an answer to everything the game can throw at you. But unfortunately Hulk gets banned a lot in high elo. I suppose a good Punisher can sort of take Namor's role here, but I have singlehandedly carried games to victory with a Hulk boosted Namor as well as Ultron if I have 2 other healers.
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Man playing qp has been like pulling teeth. Not because the enemy teams are good but because teammates do everything to work against you
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>>539157141
I'd rather they just nerf the retarded healing every other healer does.
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>>539168174
Adam is good but Ultron is better imo, my opinion basically coincides with this chart, except I'd move Namor to A >>539167783
In low elo, things look differently, and I wouldn't say either of them are very useful in comparison to a Luna or CnD. Although Luna is good at any elo.
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>>539163364
I know this webm is about the Luna front lining but I can't get over how AIDS this gameplay of namor is. Every poke character is so fucking lame and boring.
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>>539148942
MK requires more skill the higher you go up in the elo. You need to learn how to flank because simply relying on spam won't do much.
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>>539168592
its just not fast enough to keep up with and outpace the front to back luna/cnd composition
torch is the star dps because he has literally everything, dps, burst, small hitbox, survivability, escape, high speed for chasing, a threatening ult
compare that to namor who is slow, has squids you can kill, and an ult you need to damage amp to get any value from whatsoever
just isnt worth it when the alternative is so much stronger
even phoenix is better raw because neither of these picks require you to sacrifice the all important mag+emma tank comp that runs the game
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>>539168975
QP has been unplayable for months.

No bans + very unbalanced chars and team ups + no one switching for anything in the world, ends up changing the game into a living nightmare.

I understand they tried to solve this with arcade mode, but they are beyond dead on my server.
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>>539169402
Without poke, matches would be boring because it would take ages for anyone to die. Poke is what excels in final hits.
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>>539169578
Torch is good but he gets melted by any halfway decent poke character, and that includes Namor. Phoenix and Hela hard counter him. It boils down to what you're good at, and there can be multiple decent comps, but I know what I've had the most success with.
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>>539169585
>QP has been unplayable for months.
very interesting how people will go online and just say stupid shit
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So...it's just me or MK became a demon with the second charge of his right click? Mother fucker is deleting backlines with two clicks, and ults like 4 times per round (thankfully, 8/10 MK players suck, but in decent hands, it's really oppressive without flankers/divers hunting him down).
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>>539168975
Use your chat more, you'd be surprised how many people are willing to make a switch if you just ask
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>>539169919
He deserves it due to his low survivability and perma-nerfed ult.
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>>539169493
All of those characters do the point isn't whether they require skill its that their crutch character with below sea level skill floors that enable bad players
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>>539169901
If you want to play 0-4-2 comps forever and never ending BP and SM players, sure, it's a dream come true.
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>>539169839
again thats why the comp is so strong
its called Voltron for a REASON
you get
>torches melee cancel already making him hard to hit
>his shift flying speed buff
>his own slam dash giving him overhealth when he gets low/protecting him while he DIVES you
>ultron drone giving him more overhealth and heal per second to his actual health during it
>invis team up
>invis shield to heal him more
>magneto bubble
you can not kill him, that is why he is banned in the highest elos and pro play and namor isnt
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>>539169619
You're just telling me that poke is the best because it gets the most kills. I agree with you. I just fucking hate it because poke is so boring. It's the same in every game and I don't know how people enjoy it. Hold hands at corners and spam down chokes. I'm the webm you can see spiderman just hanging out because he knows there's nothing he can do. I hate that the devs have been constantly reinforcing this playstyle too.
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>tankgroid calls healdiff
>actually their team massively outhealed they just lost anyway
lmao
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>>539170118
I mean you could say the same about Scarlet Witch, but the difference between a good SW and a bad one is that the former won't get instantly erased during an ult. Some characters have simper kits than others but still require good game sense and general skill to work against strong opponents.
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>>539167920
A lot of low elo healers think that they are a good healer by sucking the idiot tank's dick and pumping full of heals.

No, the person that matters most is the last person alive sitting on the point and it can happen alot more often if you have 1 more person blasting at their backline or anti-dive (Accurately for your sake) than a healbot prolonging the inevitable.

I'm not playing Ultron because I want to heal you, I'm playing Ultron because I'm blasting squishes and I keep the other heal sluts alive from dive. Ask them to burst heal you when needed.
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I will not use cover. I will not hide. I will not wait. I will dive right in, die, and type "gg no heals" in all chat.
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>>539170172
A good Spider Man should be able to take out pretty much any poke character or at least the back line, while the dps is busy.
Spidey's real weakness are tanks. He isn't viable against them unless someone else has already melted them down.
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>>539170324
I can't believe there are people who like playing Ultron. I felt more engaged playing rocket. At least rocket has to wall run and dash sometimes. Ultron just holds up and away.
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>>539170172
What no, this game is full of flyers (who actually have harsh distancefalloff) and literal wall crawlers for a reason. In that webm, the defending team can use the broken skyscrapers to setup above the choke point and get ready to blast the enemy from all angles if they come out.

If the enemy is bottled up in the webm right next to spawn like fish in a barrel, then it's like the most favourable position for your team and you just have to wait abit with your dive and snatch up any stragglers.
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This may sound crazy but I'm not gonna stress about ranked too much anymore. Getting to gold from here on out is good enough for me. You get a skin, and its a sign of effort
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>>539170604
NTA but I find Ultron one of the most engaging characters as you have to constantly multitask if you want to both keep your team alive and kill squishies. Rocket is a standard backline healer. Both can have their uses but purely in terms of gameplay I find Ultron more engaging, which is why I switch to a different healer if I'm not in the mood for intense clutching.
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>>539169619
Its a bad thing
Healing and poke need nerfs
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>>539170556
Spidey isn't good against most any character. Especially not when they're all clumped up like that with terrible flank routes. Theoretically dive is supposed to be good against poke but every poke character in this game does way too damage, has mobility and stuns.

His best option there is what he's doing. Standing still waiting. Which is fucking awful if that's a characters best option.
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>>539170604
You don't feel engaged as Ultron because you can't kill with him, simple as that.
If you kill, you win the match faster and get more ults and can move on to the next one and repeat until you're OoA or bored.
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>>539170859
So the game can be entirely dominated by dive?
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>>539170913
There's more to a fun game than just killing people. A character who just one shots everyone on the map by clicking a button in their spawn wouldn't be very fun to play.
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>>539170996
You say that like poke hasn't been meta since December.
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>>539171175
Dive rewards player skill the most. If you make dive the meta to where anyone can easily pick off any other DPS/strategist with dive, it will just result in a less fun experience. Plus, dive is still viable, just not as broken as it has been in the past. They gave BP a purple trail to his movement and it barely made a difference.
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Anegla is terrible at front lining and she's a terrible peeler. Having her as your co-tank is the equivalent to solo tanking. Stupid bitch should have been a duellist. I would rather co-tank with a Mr Fantastic. Who would've guessed a flying vanguard would be a terrible idea?
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Give everyone passive health regen and remove overt healing from the game. Boom hero shooters fixed.
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>>539169919
he could already one shot squishes with a ankh, right click, left click combo. so the second right click just made it easier for him to delete them. not a single one of the buffs received during this patch were justified. not one.
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>>539171560
It's a good idea in that she can be very hard to kill, especially in the right hands. She's not a frontliner but she's reliable as constant presence on the map.
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>>539171397
BP is a check for supports to see if they're playing the game one handed while watching tiktok on their phone.

I would just like it if a dive character, especially one who only attacks in melee, was at an advantage when fighting the character who can kill them in 0.5 seconds from 80 meters away.
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>>539171753
*nerfs Cap*
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>>539171753
retard
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>>539171745
so she's a dps. not a tank.
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>>539171581
That's just CoD, not a hero shooter. And the powers in this game don't work in the context of CoD. Your closest bet in terms of 3rd person games is something like Space Marine 2 or Gears of War.
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>>539171697
>not a single one of the buffs received during this patch were justified. not one.

Should we fix AOE healer ults that everyone has hated since launch? Nah we'll just make another one instead. Should Bucky who already deleted anyone who got within 20 meters of him do it even harder? Yeah sure, now if you mess up the guaranteed shot follow-up from punch you also just hinder the enemy so you can keep trying.

These devs are such niggers.
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PvE when
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Honest to god, did I carry this one?
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>>539171862
If she's not a tank than neither is cap or hulk.
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>>539171753
Dive can also kill a poke in half a second, that's the thing. And healers are all but useless against them with some exceptions. The dive vs poke scenario boils down to how good the diver is at evading and closing the distance, and how good the poker's aim is. A good dive will almost always win a 1v1 with a ranged DPS.
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>>539171842
Get off your fucking phone and heal the other support already.
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>>539172050
both Cap and Hulk can frontline and peel. Hulk especially.
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>>539171697
MK has some of the worst survivability in the game and was literally C tier before this buff, now he's a bit better but still not great in high elo. The buff was absolutely justified.
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>>539172017
No
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>>539170696
actually diamond is the new point of stopping, for the new fancy borders
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>>539171868
what a retarded comparison what the fuck lol
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>>539172234
So can Angela, she just can't be doing it solo. That's what everyone wanted, right? Not another tank like Emma that can solo carry the team. Well now you have one.
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>>539172279
It's true. You want Call of Duty except with the hero abilities. It's not going to work well.
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>>539171581
That's kinda how Paladins worked and it was probably just the best about still having healing without it being super annoying
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>>539171745
Did you know that Angela is the fastest flyer in the game passively, faster than Ironman & Human Torch and even more when you burn her dash?

You win 90% of your low-elo matches by steath backcaps and 90% of your higher elo matches because the enemy has to constantly turn back to deal with you 1v1 their healers.

When they finally commit to anti-dive, you can just swtich to kidnaping tanks and brawl mode since your axes give everyone Bhp.
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>>539172274
...which absolutely no one cares about or even sees outside of ranked.
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>>539172467
Yeah she's good enough. I don't get the complaints, feels like people wanted another broken character like Emma.
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>>539172380
Wtf? No. Everyone wanted the other tanks to be able to solo. Not another tank that's better in the DPS role.
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>>539172467
>even more when you burn her dash
I feel like there's some weird bug going on with her flight.
Anybody else felt that?
Sometimes I'm going fast as fuck without using her dash.
Sometimes I'm stuck in a low speed after getting fucked by invisible woman, and need to "reset" it with the dash.
I have no concrete proof that it's real, it just feels that way to me when playing.
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>>539172059
I'd like to believe you but that's just not true when jean exists. When torch exists. When Ultron and Adam exists. Most of the poke characters are just too good.
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>>539172408
Paladins don't let you swap heroes mid match, no role queue and its 5v5. They designed all heroes to be winnable even in a full retard comp.

They spent half its lifetime trying to balance healing and out-side combat regen to the point where healer comps are frontloaded and MUST win within the first few matches before the enemy team loads-up on universal anti-heal for free.

Imagine everyone getting 80% anti-heal by the end of the match and K/Ds completely reversing because some heroes become useless by then.
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>>539172274
I would consider it if the borders were good. Red goop and a dragon aren't something I want to see.
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>>539172467
what redditor made this cringy way too long text meme?
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>>539172679
It's a rock paper scissors thing. I can guarantee you a diver is scarier to a healer than a poker. The current meta favors poke more, but that's just a deviation from dive heavy metas. And Daredevil will likely also be a dive character when he's released, so the meta may shift once again by then.
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>>539157690
God I hope that movie gets cancelled what a shit show
>>539158029
She deserved a better show
>>539158156
Not happening
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>>539159954
>>539163154
>>539163292
It’s grim but what can even be done about it? Seems the death spiral has already begun
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>>539173013
Insider shill Miller said they are currently working on an inhuman.
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>>539172679
Dive still plows through any comp that doesn't have an anti-dive character on it, in my experience.
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I just went 2 healer in QP as Ultron, defend goal convoy, and we won. I get it now. This was with a subpar Angela that went Squirrel Girl, only doing 7-4. Only one point taken. The use of Ultron is definitely knowing who needs to be droned and when. He is the definition of a strategist, recognizing who's weak not just with health but who the more important players are. I took out an ulting Punisher who snuck behind us, and used my ult to hold back the enemy while killing an ulting Jeff trying to steal my team. Also just spam shield when someone is low, it really is a numbers game/race. The match prior to that we lost, but again we had a newbie Angela not doing much and it was pretty close.

Thanks for the video guide, guys, that really helped.
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>>539173275
>He is the definition of a strategist, recognizing who's weak not just with health but who the more important players
And knowing who to target and damage. I agree with you. Quite literally a strategist.
>Thanks for the video guide, guys, that really helped.
It was me. Have fun.
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>>539162325
You take the Rocketpill
>self sustain, don't have to rely on your team to peel you
>brb mitigates staggering
>aoe + bouncing to heal any tanktards who are out of your los
>stress free gameplay
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>>539172875
>>539172912
Trvth
>>539173204
Source?
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>>539164045
fuckin based
>>539166227
meds
>>539167805
you did not have to cross post for this
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>>539173204
>tfw they add that giant dog as a tank
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Climbing out of bronze is so fucking cursed holy shit. Every game is just bad dps who can't do anything.
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>>539173550
>guilt tripping the player into killing a dog as a form of psychological warfare
The new meta has arrived
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>>539173545
I did when the thread ended and 5 different tards insisted that was flats list
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>>539171175
see
>>539173651
in low elos especially, dps (often pokes who can't aim for shit) are the ones bringing entire teams down
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>>539173550
>another portal bot
Nah
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>>539172002
has the potential to be fun, but it's also going to be a lot of work on the developers' end
nowadays pve and pvp are usually separatetely released games altogether
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>>539173539
You can go comb his streams for when he said it. I can't be bothered today
twitch.tv/mmmmmmmmiller
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>fag says some shit about how I'm playing when its clear we're all doing bad
>swap to mk/sg and turn brain off
not my problem faggot
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You guys wanna help me come up with a vanguard kit for Dario Agger, the Minotaur?
>A short dash that ends with a horn flip, tossing enemies up into the air behind you so duelists can kill them/cut off the ranks
>Promoted! Dario tags a single teammate with a steady building shield over time
>Buff Minotaur's fists so with each contacted hit, damaged enemies drop shield packs that your allies can pick up
>Throw briefcase
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>>539173204
That could only be like 2 characters; Kamala Khan and Medusa. Black Bolt wouldn't have dialogue, so that'd be weird. Yes Kamala is now retconned into a mutant, but she's been associated long enough with Inhumans to technically fall into that classification. The rest are literal whos. Medusa at least has sex appeal.

It's hard to imagine an Inhuman now these days given how hard they were pushed a few years ago with failure. They really dialed back since.
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>enemy opponent desperately cycles through his lord bp, psylocke, winter soldier
>alt f4s the match on loss
Heh
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>>539174563
What drives me nuts about dive duelists like Spider-Man and Black Panther isn't even the score with bad players, sometimes even a good player can actually be detrimental to the team and result in a loss. The thing about those guys is that while they annoy the enemy backline, they pretty much waste time repositioning and setting up for another go. They don't kill fast enough, and too many just focus on healers instead of who is weak. The numbers game is real, and they don't always see the problem
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>>539173182
Maybe start by listening to the communities and stop reading statistics?
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>>539174236
>Another literal who
Please go away.
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>>539173182
>Release 2 duelists
>Bring the players back
>Release tank
>People don't give a shit
Hmm...
What can be done about it...
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Personally I think its bad design to have to rely on animation cancels to do decent damage on angela in flight mode and its kinda concerning that the keep doing this with heroes
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>all those retards buying angela's uninspired ugly shop skin
they will literally release a new skin for her really soon, why not wait to see if its better? lol
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>>539173816
It's unreal. Every game in bronze has at least 1 dps who is a literal useless brick who will have less damage, less finals hits, more deaths, and be around the objective less than a tank or sometimes even healer and still have the audacity to argue back and act like didn't play like shit.
I've literally had people just
>yeah so?
When you point out they had no kills and did less than half the damage of someone else. Actual zombies.

Why are these niggers in ranked holy fuck get out of my game.
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>>539174236
I would turn promoted into embezzlement where when the tag teammates takes damage, Dario receives the amount of it in bonus health. Just to make it more clear that's he's a corrupt CEO.
The briefcase could have the potential to give him a different primary depending on whether or not he's thrown it. When it's thrown and no longer equipped it could become a trap for enemies that gives a debuff when stepped on, or it could accumulate a resource whenever it's stepped on so when Dario retrieves it gives himself a bigger buff the more people come into contact.
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>>539175082
I'm looking forward to tanks/healers with every update and I'm a DPS "main". It's easy to make a duelist as most of the characters lend themselves to that, but since tanks & healers are just as important, there should be more of those.
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>>539173182
NetEase is fucking stupid and balances their game off cold algorithm data. The biggest example of this is the pathetic to Black Panther. They did not even attempt to balance him in a way that would actually matter. They did not address his core issue and this is why their balancing sucks. Look at Emma. Her core issue is that her kit is incredibly overloaded for a tank. She's good at damaging and fighting other tanks thanks to Mind Crush and Diamond Form. All they can do is make her cool downs longer and reduce her damage but they'll never address the core issue. They didn't bother fixing the Human Torch melee tech despite it being incredibly well known so HT sweats can just dominate QM/Ranked lobbies. They clearly "listen" to the "community" in some regards but they are completely obvious on how to actually fix problem characters because the problem entirely lies in the kit design rather than number tweaking.
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>>539175640
I like eyeless masks, but the color isn't my thing. She's just one of those characters who likely peaked with her primary skin.
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>>539175134
I don't think there are that many animation cancels in the game.
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>>539175973
But earlier you had some anon complaining that dive is weak, despite BP and frankly most of them being good. In another thread you'll see someone complaining about tanks being weak, in another, you'll see someone say poke is weak. So these are necessary evils. They're buffed to counteract other buffed characters. The thing that needs to be done is to nerf more characters instead of continuously buffing everyone like inflation. Even then, it's impossible to please everyone. But I don't think a character's default kit can't be made viable if it's weak, and weaker if it's too broken. Worst case scenario, they can just do a rework ala Jeff.
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>>539174906
Everyone is a literal who to you, casual.
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>>539175640
I'm tempted to buy it just because I don't like her base skin.
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>>539173651
>>539173816
>>539175709
I've put in some games today and got to Bronze 1. I didn't play too much last season and paid for it. What I find that helps is being a decent damage tank like Strange and do the work they fucking can't
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>>539176202
With Spider-Man I think it's acceptable he'd have such tech. It suits his playstyle and he sort of needs it anyway.
Torch and some others definitely get an unfair advantage out of it, but most can't even use the tech right. Ultron's animation cancel is useless but I can only vouch for this cause I've played him a lot at this point. Jean needs a slight nerf in general.
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>>539176275
DON'T the shop skin isn't going away, just wait to see if the chink-birb skin is better
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>>539176378
Are there ANY skins currently at risk of going away?
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>>539176448
Don't event skins disappear? You can't get Fanta Venom or Cyborg Magneto, etc, if you didn't get the mini event.
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>>539175082
You can literally see the spike in players was because of the summer skins which got promoted all across social media and got the game back into public word of mouth. Not to say that gooner appeal is going to always save us but just having something that can be talked and memed about online is going to be the difference of staying over 100k
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>>539176378
>chink-birb
*Tiger
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>>539176545
The only skins that appear to disappear are events, stuff in mini passes and sometimes seasonal. For example outside of winter fun, there were the additional beach skins

The game economy outside of that appears to be sales/bundles that expire
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>>539176601
EVEN BETTER! hopefully it comes in a bundle with another skin or in a mini-pass
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>>539176202
No but the ones that do have them feel like they gain such a strong advantage from having them that its practically throwing if you're not using them. Angela and cap are practically useless without their animation cancels and stranges shouldn't even be needed his reloads are way to long for such a small mag
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>>539172621
People have been bitching endlessly about Emma allegedly being OP, but once netease releases a tank that is both perfectly balanced and fun to play, everyone bitches about that too.
This game's community is so retarded.
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>>539176545
I believe some are set to return permanently and others are only supposed to be seasonal. When do they i don't know.
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>>539176601
>Shan Spider chose Black Widow because it thought she was joking about "being a reformed assassin" and thought it a sadistic deception
Oh no....No one tell it. The spider deity is retarded
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>>539176601
I actually like the DD and Wolverine skins. The one next to Loki isn't bad either but I don't get who it's supposed to be, Iron Fist? Widow & Groot seem to be the defaults.
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>>539159954
Borderlands 4 released retard-kun.
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>>539176601
Wait the tiger is Angela? Doesn't look like her. Hell I thought it was Marc
>>539176854
It's Lin Lie. Shou Lao has a soft spot for him, and that form is likely true chosen
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>>539176725
>a tank that is both perfectly balanced and fun to play
This is the right approach for all characters. The people who disagree are retards and meta slaves.
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>>539176854
DD is the default. And yes it's Iron Fist.
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>>539176721
>stranges shouldn't even be needed
While the reload is useful it's mostly that he can go from shooting to melee or shield depending on the situation that's relevant. In fact you can screw yourself up by spamming too quickly since he interrupts his shooting and potentially lowers his outgoing damage.
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>>539176940
she has her ribbons and axes
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>>539176940
>Iron Fist's Super Saiyan form
I don't hate it.
>>539176971
As long as it's Matt Murdock I don't mind.
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>>539175973
he needs a full rework right along with cap, the game right now has like 5 throw picks
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I hope Daredevil is a tank, that'd be really funny. If he is a Duelist, I hope he has a sweeping attack like Mister Fantastic since his sticks clearly extend with chains. Maybe that's his gimmick, he's got two states like Angela, only its sweeping slow attacks with his weapons mixed with a boxer rapid punch similar to Iron Fist.

Also predict the skins:
>Launch recolor is Yellow Default
>MCU Born Again
>Man Without Fear Year One black bandana
>That black armored one everyone hates
>White recolor
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magik's eldritch armor skin needs a legendary rarity upgrade, that skin is her ultimate form ffs!
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>>539176940
I thought it was Bucky. Kek, no one knows who that's supposed to be.
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>>539176940
>Wait the tiger is Angela?
Uh yeah? Tiger versus Dragon theme of the season, besides the Angel vs Devil. Literally on the start screen too. Plus the axes.
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>>539177102
>As long as it's Matt Murdock
We keep telling you, IT IS. They didn't make up an OC. Matt in this timeline simply never left hell, wishing to redeem the damned, and then eventually fell into one of the holy cities as a prison warden to reform those who lost their way
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Here's the "problem" with climbing in this game.
Lower ranks, Bronze to High Gold/Plat, winning games is reliant on Strategists. Both teams have equally dogshit tanks/dps, so you need your Strategists to actually know how to play the game. Almost every single fight at these ranks is determined by the Strats using their ults. Unfortunately, good Strats climb out of these ranks very quickly so you never actually get good Strategists here.

Middle ranks, lets say Plat to GM, the Strategist skill ceiling has already been reached (Because it's not very high). Tanks who have gotten here know basic positioning, but typically aren't doing anything special besides the usual shit like Mag nuking a C&D. So most games now fall on the DPS, which are like 75% average players with 25% aim/tech gods who rape your team to death.

Celestial and higher you're now facing DPS who can all aim and do tech well, and Strategists who all know how to position/heal well. So your games here, although are much more team reliant, are now requiring Tanks to know combos, know how to position to not die instantly, etc etc.

tl;dr, if you want to climb; play Strat at low levels, DPS at mid, and Tanks at high. Brawler tanks work for mid rank too, to supplement DPS.

How do I know all this? Well I'm mostly talking out my ass but this is generally my experience having been Eternity/Celestial every season
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I find it funny Groot and Black Widow didn't get skins after being chosen as champions. Also I get the Iron Fist favoritism, but does anyone actually play Lin Lie? I feel like his role is better suited by other characters.
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>>539177186
We need more tanks, but DD isn't one of them. You're pushing the envelope of disbelief too far when some blind ninja is suddenly comparable to the Thing. Even being a healer would be more fitting, but he's an obvious dive DPS or brawler type.
They're saving the most obvious tanks (Colossus, Juggernaut, Beast, etc) for later.
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>>539176202
>the entire frontline roster has to use bugs to do damage


Yea lets keep nerfing emma though,get this broken shit out of the game and balance the damage output
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I was excited for the game pop to boom again. We had it so good I want to go back. Everyone talking about the game. Everyone playing the game. The game on everyones streams. Why god why me.
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>>539177402
>You're pushing the envelope of disbelief too far when some blind ninja is suddenly comparable to the Thing.
Doctor Strange and Emma are tanks...I get what you're trying to say, but classes aren't merely determined by "Big Guy"
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>>539177516
Dr Strange can cast shields and is generally one of the most OP characters in the comics. Emma has a diamond form, they make sense as tanks. Blind Batman does not.
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>>539158029
>dps babs when they play the easiest role and you ask them to force support ults WITHOUT using their own ult to do it
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>>539177627
>easiest role
But hardest to get value with, the higher the elo gets.
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>>539174391
>How hard they were pushed
Really only culminated into 1 comic event and a TV show. It's never like they replaced the X-men and people were forced to make Inhuman stuff. It was more whenever someone wanted to do an X-man thing they were told no, and separately in marvel crossovers they used Inhumans.
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>>539163098
In other games that's pretty fair but in this game everyone slowly goes up regardless so you might get stuck behind and with all the boosted shitters
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>>539176259
In his defense Minotaur really is a literal who. But they're clearly not against it, when they added a land shark created by Modok as a throwaway joke.
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>Want to play Mantis
>Team keeps fucking dying
Idk what to do here.
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>>539172274
>all the rewards at gm most
This will save MR ranked and pro play. You rike?
They must really be struggling though desu to be doing this, at least they know the engagement with ranked is bad... but they should do something about it
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>shit team rightfully losing a game they deserve to lose
>triple support comes out
God I forgot how much I hate this game.
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>>539178029
Triple support can still be shit if it's a bad team. Its hayday has since been gone.
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>>539174236
Melee primary.
Briefcase throw to stun and ground target to deal with flying enemies.
Enemies leave resource packs upon death that Dario can pick up for health and shielding, the sooner he picks them up the more he gets.
Ability to Slander/Expose an enemy, debuffing them (debuff ends immediately when Dario dies, meaning the Slandered target is encouraged to aim for Dario)
Encouragement, Dario shoves an ally forward and buffs them for a short duration.
A very long CD passive that calls four ROXXON goons whenever Dario is low on health (CD is reduced slightly by picking up resource packs).
Too Big To Fail ult, Dario gets extra health and shields as if he just picked up a fresh resource pack, this bonus regenerates while the ult is active. At this time Dario attacks faster, hits harder and his attacks turn into a three hit combo of normal-heavy-ground slam AoE. Ult runs out faster if Dario doesn't attack anyone.
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>>539178136
Ok but have you considered that my team is also shit and allergic to playing obj
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I tried playing Torch with the animation cancel movement and it's so fucking boring.
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>>539177336
more or less agree
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>>539177705
>But hardest to get value with, the higher the elo gets.
Suuuuure, whatever you say dps bab. Just take your healing like a good elo pet
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>>539177502
To be fair borderlands 4 released, and peak as well as base player count has increased. Also stop being so melodramatic the game is still regularly in the top 10-20 played on steam.
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Kind of a weird piece of lore. Though I'm more curious about Loki's, but that comes in 2 days.
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>>539178403
All the roles are equally important and everyone should know a character of each. If you're a healer who complains that they have to heal others, switch to something else.
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I still think that instead of nerfing Emma they should've buffed and updated other tanks.
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I want a high mobility Strategist
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>>539178697
>dive strategist
now that would be interesting
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>>539178671
I mean, Strange got a buff. Thor and Peni too.
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>domination map
>enemy team has good good dps
>but they are running triple support (rocket, CnD, Sue) and solo tank
>They lose 2-0
Yeah keep healboting guys, thats working great
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>>539178697
>>539178769
Black Cat. She just jumps around the map and jerks you off.
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>>539177494
>bugs
Those are clearly intended
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>>539178671
Thor has become quite good this season. You'll slowly see him get used more. It's just that there's better defensive options which is what people mostly need the tanks for.
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>>539176601
sex with widow
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>pick up bucky cause i bought the limited skin
holy shit this dude is a monster
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bronze is not a real place man the constantly awful support ults the 3 support stacks, the face tanking venom who doesn't dive, the negative dps and oh god don't get me started on the pussy footing support standing a mile away wondering why you can't claim point while pointing fingers at the end. The average player should not be this bad
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BP needs a rework. Remove his dashes, make him a brawler character. He has no counters at all.
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Either I got lucky by not getting the shitters on my team or the playerbase somehow got worse
>+40 in gold
Its actually bizarre how easy it is to climb, with the game boosting people like this no wonder plat+ feels like a shitshow
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>>539179448
>He has no counters at all.
Never felt scared of him on Namor, CnD or any flying character. As a flier, I do feel pressure from Iron Fist though.
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>>539179550
its not about you its about your healers feeding to him
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All I need is one good friend to play with and video call with our cocks out and then I'm sure we can climb to One Above All
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im just going to lock in spiderman and throw every time I get a thor angela tank comp
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>>539177565
I'm just saying Ultron is a damn healer along with Rocket. Yes some characters naturally feel right for roles but NetEase can cram anyone they want into those classes. I'm not saying Daredevil IS a tank, just making a point
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>>539178697
>>539178914
strategist is the last thing Black Cat would be, I really think someone like Silver Surfer could be the perfect high-mobility strategist
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>>539179749
Spider Man is good at picking off Angelas when their health is lower and the rest of the team can't aim well enough to take her out.
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>>539177565
>generally one of the most OP characters in the comics
lol, lmao even
>Blind Batman
lol, lmao even
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>>539178697
Soon
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>>539179841
Surfer's hitbox would be a bit too big with the board, but maybe they can make it work. I've pushed the idea of Sentry being a healer many times, because it fits his gimmick if he's half dps, half healer, and he could have good mobility too.
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>>539177809
>Really only culminated into 1 comic event and a TV show.
You're really underselling how much Disney/Marvel Comics were suppressing both the X-Men and F4 at the time.
>F4 were not allowed to be referenced in the Spider-Man PS4 game, the Baxter Building didn't even appear until 2
>Mutants were mostly killed off and didn't have a book for some time.
>Reed, Sue, and the kids were gone in another dimension, no F4 book, Thing and Johnny were mostly in the background
>Hard push for Kamala
>Inhumans show
>Inhumans in Agents of SHIELD
>That shitty Square Enix Avengers game that failed that was hard pushing the Inhumans
>Mutants were not allowed to be referenced in game projects
>That whole Marvel vs CAPCOM debacle
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>>539179974
Being a buttslut isn't a good Strategist ability, Gwen
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>>539179841
>strategist is the last thing Black Cat would be
I felt this way about Loki. Look what they did to my boy
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>>539179954
In what universe is Strange not OP? Especially silver age or composite Strange?
And yes, Blind Nightwing does not work as a tank. May as well make Deadpool a tank too.
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>>539178636
I'm curious if the fire crane has any relation to The Phoenix. Also Xiezhi having ties to Africa isn't exactly THAT weird. Remember Bast is both linked to Wakanda and The Ennead, which is the Egyptian pantheon Khonshu rolls with
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Angela is like a big ass bug. It's so annoying to get pierced
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>>539180079
Loki makes sense since he's a trickster, not a frontliner and has never excelled at combat like his brother.
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Black Cat should legit steal meter from enemies
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>>539179841
I know, I was kidding. Jean should've been a strategist but they made her one of the most broken duelists.
I hope Xavier is a strategist if they ever add him.
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>>539180048
Against half your list is just them saying no to the X-men and not we have to push the Inhumans everywhere and make it a family name. Kamala got a push because she sold well. Everything else with the Inhumans was them not having better options for characters available.
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>>539180158
Strange is like Flash in that they're both OP on paper but they're almost always jobbers. I never said anything about Daredevil being a tank, but calling him blind Batman is tourist talk or just a Batfag's obsession
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>>539180259
Yeah but thats why he's cast as an assassin who uses daggers and his magic to defeat enemies in games and shows. I'm really just pointing out they'll stretch whatever they need to in order to make a certain class work for any hero.
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>>539180158
>May as well make Deadpool a tank too.
I wish, make Nate a Strategist too
>>539180190
>I'm curious if the fire crane has any relation to The Phoenix
I hope not but it's a flaming chicken. On the other hand I think they posted something about Loki SAYING he's the firebird's chosen so perhaps there's a bit of trickery involved.
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>>539180317
This looks like a legendary skin upgrade of a base skin.
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>>539180452
I'm well aware he's different from Bruce, but power-wise, it's like expecting a tanky Batman. And both have stolen from each other historically. Frank Miller actually did what he did with Batman earlier with Daredevil.
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>>539180476
Even then, Loki can make sense as a strategist. The Punisher or Wolverine for example, can't.
>>539180317
Not a bad idea for a game mechanic.
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>>539180578
>it's like expecting a tanky Batman.
I mean
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>>539180452
Daredevil being a Batman pastiche isn't like some naive nu-fan idea and is actually on purpose.
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>>539180452
NTA but I actually don't know anything about Daredevil and wondered if his netflix show is a good introduction to him.
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>>539180703
It's the best live action Marvel show, and pretty faithful to the material yes
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>>539180703
It's good if you know nothing of him. Loses out on some bigger ideas but it's fine enough to make some new fans.
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>>539180689
Yeah but that's design. He's still not comparable to the Hulk or even Venom in terms of strength/durability.
And there's a lot of characters in Marvel who would be better for a tank than a guy known for his hand to hand martial arts.
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>>539180697
he's a batman and spider man pastiche, but unique enough to be distinct
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>Sue doesn't make sense as a healer because her powers can't heal people
>ultron can fit any role but making him a support is weird
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>Sai training anon reporting
Now captain with Sai and regularly hitting the high 30's and up on accuracy. the nerf didn't gut her combo, i just have to work a little harder. going to get the vamp skin now that i can cycle skins.
Also picked up strange to pretty good effect. first game i got a mvp using my GM friend's gameplay as a reference.
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You do well on Angela in one round and get you put in cc hell. All of a sudden invis women know that their bubble can ground fliers where was that intuition the previous 3 season?
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>>539180675
Yeah but Wolverine could absolutely make sense as a tank. I agree characters like Punisher only belong in one category. That's also pretty rare. Most duelists could be a tank and vice versa. Even with Loki they're basically saying if you can wield magic you can be a strategist. Even Luna is pulling heals out of her ass with ice powers
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They should buff Loki's backstab
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>>539181031
Out of the F4, Sue makes the most sense as a support. And it's as simple as that. They needed to add them, and one of them needed to be a healer. She was the obvious choice.
Lore-wise, you could say she can mend broken bones with her telekinesis or whatever.
Ultron having healing drones is believable, and Iron Man already exists, so having an incredibly similar DPS would be a waste of a character slot.
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>>539180674
sadly cloak lost his cock
but he gets to watch, at the very least
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>>539181053
>Wolverine:
> *absolutely terrorizing the entire vanguard class for 3 seasons*
>Invisible Women:
>...

>Angela
>*Exists*
>Invisible Women:
>*Push, vortex, and DISAPPEAR the nanosecond their off cooldown*
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>>539181072
Luna can canonically heal with white ice and hurt with black ice.
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>>539181260
Yeah his cock is still embedded in Dagger's gorilla grip vagina.
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>>539181072
>Even with Loki they're basically saying if you can wield magic you can be a strategist
Which is true. I think Strange could've easily also been a strategist. But his shields are used very frequently in both movies and comics at this point so he also makes sense as a tank.
Luna makes no sense as any role honestly.
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>>539181325
It's gross that he can actually do that with dark force.
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>>539181052
Based game enjoyer. Did anything especially cool with Strange? Or Sai?
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>>539181365
Just to add to this, I had forgotten that Luna actually can heal, so there you go. Daggers's light daggers canonically heal as well, so that's an obvious support.
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>>539181306
>canonically
wtf is the lore to this character? I thought we agreed she was some OC bullshit
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Daredevil should absolutely be a tank so that people whine about him until he's nerfed into being completely unplayable.
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>>539181528
She is, but that doesn't make her non-canon
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>>539180674
Disappointed that this shit was the legendary and not a swimsuit skin that gave him legs and force every CnD player to buy it since was limited time. It's like they hate making money.
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>>539181546
Emma is still S tier btw
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>>539181306
>white ice black ice
Did they really use white and black magic a la final fantasy, etc to justify that? lol
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>>539181528
OC in a game that didn't need healers so she just healed anyway because they wanted her to then she was added to the comics then added to this game.
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>>539181630
Have you noticed the black and white hair and the heterochromia yet
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>>539181681
>that didn't need healers
lol this game is unwinnable without healers
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>>539181728
Retard I'm saying the game she first appeared in didn't need her to heal. She appears in this game after she was already created.
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>>539180158
Deadpool should be a healer. With him you can bullshit your way into making him work as any role, but as a tank his hitbox would be too big and he's not a huge guy in the comics.
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>>539181696
I never put that together. Damn thats corny lol
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>>539181414
I got a quad with strange ult that first game, it hit like crack man. seriously, didn't think the buff to his E would be that good.
With Sai, i've just consistently been getting to my best off angles, picking off the squishies, and timing my ults properly. plenty of high kill games, but i like the current consistent pace i'm on. for s4, clicking on tanks to build my ult has helped compensate for the shuriken nerf too.
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>>539180674
>all he gets after everything he does is a little kiss on the cheek
lol no
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>>539180403
Sue is what Jean could have been. Their moves are interchangeable because they both wield a form of telekinesis so they used Phoenix for a more offensive powerset.
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Chat, is this tuff?
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>>539182003
her phoenix skin gives her better DSLs
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>>539181924
Nice
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>>539181292
I'm telling you man the community hates and actively conspires against vanguards
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>>539181975
they can't show the cock kisses dagger gives cloak
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>>539182098
rook same to me. Pheonix magik kinda has the better look, maybe slighty softer face.
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i have really bad timing with Angela's ult. Ill get majority or all of the enemy team, but my team won't follow up even though they're nearby. What am I doing wrong?
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>>539180674
Cloak is unironically an interesting and kino character. Tandy is just some slut with nonsensical powers. But I get it, they're Mister Negative split into two characters. Never cared whether they would be a couple or not, although they do need each other to survive so it makes sense they'd eventually become attracted to each other.
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>>539182595
So he raped that guy beneath the robes?
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>>539182404
probably the mvp im thinking of
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>>539182685
In more ways than 1
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>>539182687
Could be
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>>539180403
Xavier will probably be added, but without the chair. Otherwise his hitbox might be too big for a healer, unless they make him very mobile too.
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How do you counter this comp?
>Groot
>Iron Man
>Winter/Psylocke
>Ultron
>Luna
>Jeff
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>>539182779
Hot
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nerf Jeff
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>>539182685
Cloak is intangible except for his head. I don't remember if he can physically materialize other parts of his body but he's basically a ghost.
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Buff Angela
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Buff Strange.
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>>539182909
storm + punisher
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>>539182909
Punisher
Namor
Hulk
Mag
Luna (CnD if mirrors aren't allowed)
Mantis
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>>539182404
They're the same the red just emphasizes her lips making them seem plumper
>>539182587
For me its aiming on place on my ult going somewhere else because I slightly flicked my mouse.
>but my team won't follow up even though they're nearby. What am I doing wrong?
Keep track of their ults and either stay near them and ult and hope they get the memo (you could also get on mic and tell them) or you wait for them to ult and then you ult to follow up so you either helped them secure kills or prevent survivors from running off
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>>539181762
rapes who?
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>have never been higher rank than diamond
>QP games constantly place me against stacks of celestial and even eternity players
>even when the games aren't a stomp they are grueling chaotic uphill battles
Comp in gold/plat is unironically easier and more chill
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>>539183273
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Woo! I always miss!
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I just now realize none of the Tanks have a group cleaving primary like a Rein or Winston, they're all single target focused
why is that?
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Psylocke doesn't deserve respect
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>>539184193
Angela does
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>>539184203
>t. aimlet
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GuangGuang, add him
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>>539176202
Bump Thor up, he's DPS and survivability goes up when he rapid cancels Awakening in brawls.

BP has the ghost dash cancels
Groot can weave in melee cancels to thunderdone.
Magento's Damage is literally in the Primary-Mag-Primary cancel. Plus he also has the Primary-Melee loops to use at close range.
Venom has Primary-Melee cancels to increase his abysmal DPS.
Invisible woman can 'charge' her melee with cancels between her primary and boop someone with the last hit if desprate
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>>539182321
It's not vanguards. It's mobility. The more mobility a character has the more shitters hate them. See all the hate for Spidey, IF, panther, Cap, and now Angela. Seeing something fast moving and in your face just upsets people. Never mind that jean and hela have been running lobbies and no one says shit. Torch is now too but people are only talking about his movement.
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Devs need to reevaluate what a knock up/back is. It shouldn't be canceling ults.
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>>539143874
A-anon?!
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>>539184654
I mean ghost dashing isn't cancelling the 1st dash. It's just really fast. But he one hundred percent uses dash to cancel the recovery of spear.
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>>539184716
There's just way too much cc in this game and most of it is already on characters who are strong without it like Bucky, hela, Luna, jean. Why are there so many types of cc that fuck over specific characters and why do they keep adding more? Like before no one got fucked as hard as Spidey did my knockback abilities but now Angela rivals him for that. Knockback should not interrupt movement abilities at all. It's fucking silly that it does.
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>>539184654
So something like this?
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>woman (probably trans they had tradwife in name and I doubt any actualy woman is calling themself that) had to swap to dps and do a dpschuds job for him.
Grim. Bronze if fucking grim I should've played more before I quit last season so I'd at least be silver
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>former console eternity in my 1* practice games
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https://files.catbox.moe/7l9ame.jpg
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>>539184981
Oh wait, I forgot Adam has Primary-Charged shot cancel to make him rapid fire at the cost of ammo.
Other than that, can't think of anymore and the rest look great.
You may want to put 2nd row as "Tier Upgrading/defining" because you're honestly going to be a shit main when you handicap yourself without them.
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>>539184193
If they add Ghost Rider and hes a tank he should be able to whip mutiple enemies at the same time
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>>539185165
Sure why not.
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>>539174146
Lol yeah right
>>539176601
God this shit is so ass I wish they would cancel it
>>539176940
>Shou Lao has a soft spot for him
Surprising no one lmao
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>>539174236
Not really. We’ve been over this. The guy who whooped his ass is better.
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>Enemy:
>Triple tank

>Our Duelist:
>Spiderman
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How do you counter Groot, Winter, and Hela all at once?
>Groot blocks off tanks
>Winter is bs
>Hela counters fliers
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>>539177186
he’s not retard he’s dps and that’s the most fitting thing cope now
>>539177402
>beast
christ i hope they keep delaying him
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>>539179974
Kill yourself.
>>539178914
Exclusive to Spider-Man only.
>>539180043
Sentry needs to be tanky first and foremost so he’s off the table too.
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>>539179812
>but NetEase can cram anyone they want into those classes
that doesn’t mean they should. indeed, they shouldn’t, really.
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>>539182909
If you are too retarded to counter.
Go mirror match.
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i should just learn angela in ranked. qp isa dogshit place and vs ai is boring after you learn how to move her.
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>>539184726
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Add Shocker damn it
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>>539180578
Bruce is plenty tanky. He’s one of the tankiest street tiers period.
>>539180452
Daredevil being bootleg Batman is something that’s even joked about in his own comics you weird idiot.
>>539180697
Exactly.
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>>539180317
that's a retarded idea
>>539181325
>>539182372
obsessed brown jeeter posts
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>2 celestial players on our team
>2 celestial players on enemy team along with 2 GM players
>in fucking silver
dumb chinks
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Is the punisher in this match cheating or is his big ass reticle just fucking with me?
10288961498
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Best heroes to counter triple support?
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>be bp
>see enemy support
>see iron man in the sky
>choose to try and hit a direct with a spear and kill him midair
why do i do this
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>>539180403
Jean fits perfectly fine as she is, its her kit in general that's the real disappointment but you'll keep repeating this cope until the end of time.
>>539181989
Sue is not a telekinetic.
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>>539180452
Both Flash and Strange are OP. Just because plot demands they become idiots most of the time doesn’t mean they aren’t. Silly argument. Classic Strange especially.
>>539180495
Don’t be retarded.
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>>539184193
That's probably for the best if those characters are anything to go by.
>>539184993
Didn't happen.
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>>539182595
> Cloak is unironically an interesting and kino character.
back you go redditard
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>>539186745
typed through tears btw
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>>539186879
I think it's just controller, like he just gets a crit there but he's not actually chaining them. Although I believe the replays aren't wholly accurate either.
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>>539174391
>Black Bolt wouldn't have dialogue, so that'd be weird.
On the contrary, it would make him unique and allow him to stand out. Not everyone needs to be a 24/7 quiptard. He certainly takes priority over Medusa or whoever the fuck considering he’s the only one anyone cares about.
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>>539178632
>>539176857
Is anyone actually playing that slop though
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>>539187421
Hmm maybe. I just found it weird since there were times where his reticle wasn't on me at all and he was still getting hits.
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>1 win away to Plat 3
>Go on massive loss streak
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>>539187421
Yeah the replays aren't accurate in the sense that tracking sorta smoothed out compared to their real tracking
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>>539187421
Like here he's hitting Angela's shield but he's also lagging like crazy
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>>539187651
Meant to post this capture
>>539187617
Well I only watched very little but lag seems to be a driving factor. Both him and Angela were lagging there apparently.
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>>539187597
It's been on a steady 200k players since release anon what do you think? Just because /v/ and twitter hates a franchise doesn't mean its not stupidly popular
>>539187651
>probably was still on his screen
It could be that. Me and my teammates were getting lag spikes and there's a moment in that game where I'm fighting nothing and he kills me but on my screen I was fighting emma
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>>539187638
ARE YOU ENGAGED YET????
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>>539181072
>Most duelists could be a tank and vice versa.
That's pushing it
>they're basically saying if you can wield magic you can be a strategist
Yeah? His magic especially is pretty versatile and fitting and he's not usually a physical fighter. DPS/strat fits him fine.
>>539181185
Ultron could have easily (and more fittingly) have been a tank and Sue doesn't have telekinesis so it is a stretch but yeah someone had to be it and she fits best.
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>>539179841
surfer being a healer is technically fitting but him being a squishy sissy is the last thing id imagine him as
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>>539180703
it’s dogshit like most marble shows just read the comics
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>>539188032
>he's not usually a physical fighter
I guess a comicfag is gonna have to clue me in cause I thought Loki loved using his daggers.
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>>539187815
I admit though, this looks questionable. Dagger wasn't even IN the reticle.
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>>539188032
>Ultron could have easily (and more fittingly) have been a tank
SHARTron has always relied on drones and bullshit over actually slugging it.
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>>539182887
>but without the chair
Twink Charles is going to look so bad
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>>539187360
>not denying it
thanks for confirming
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>>539187815
It’s just a question dude calm down I don’t keep up with that shit and as far as I’ve heard neither did anyone else so it’s a surprise is all
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>>539188190
It's either the lag or something else because I plugged in a controller and this doesn't happen
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>>539188173
He does but unless you’re looking exclusively at MCU shit it’s hardly his go to or even preferred form of attack.
>>539188210
Not at all. Some of his most famous appearances has him just manhandling everyone. He could still have drones, just make them do literally anything beside healing.
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>>539188363
>not denying it
thanks for seething.
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>>539186565
Going to need the artist for that so I csn check it out when I get home..
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>>539153429
It depends on the map or whether it is on attack or defense. All these four heroes are war way better on defense. Someone like Reed doesn’t want to chase much, as he is slow as shit. Thor really wants to go on different tricky angles, so he can get to his preferred range. Invis has a natural push and pull, with the fact she wants to heal but also not die getting too close to battlefield. And obviously Hawkeye is a sniper. A good counter would be Cap, as they have a weak frontline with thor, that hopefully your team will keep in company. Your job is to put pressure on the other three of them, not to actually fight them much, and build up space so hopefully they get so overwhelmed that hawkeye cant shoot well, invis neglects heals, and Reed tries to chase you for nothing. Then collapse on them when Thor is dead, leading to a 6v5 or better
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>>539188387
My bad if I came of aggressive didn't really mean it that way
>>539188506
Maybe. His account was level 15 though which is kinda suspicious. Either way its gone now and I reported so if he's actually cheating the chinks will just ban him, I hope.
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My playstation 4 blew up
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Can I get 1 game where everyone on the team plays objective? There is ALWAYS 1 guy fucking off and being dead weight no matter what. Like the game decides out of 6 people there must be 1 drunken toddler going 0-4 on spidey.
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Thor downplayers, what is our response?
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>>539188603
whatever you say sukhdeep
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>>539189296
JEFFGODS???
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>>539149306
Thor should clobber and mating press her after. Obnoxious cocky brat.
>>539155631
Kino art.
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>>539160782
>three tanks
>no main healer
Hard to hold point when you’re one the whole match. Especially when all three of these tanks cant sustain themselves without relying on healthpacks, if there’s not a real healing source. Poor bucky probably got focused on the whole match lol
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>>539188516
>Some of his most famous appearances has him just manhandling everyone.
Such as? All-Father Ultron?
Even in Rage of Ultron he just sat back.
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>>539142567
If only the Chinese would have the balls to do this
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>>539189369
He's legit good. I'll gladly take a Jeff over another Cloak and Dagger
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>>539189340
whatever you say A"man"da
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>>539189568
You won't take Jeff over a GOOD cloak and dagger though. Most CNDs are incapable of bubble and screen healing every time it comes off cooldown and only hold M1 all game.
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>>539188171
which ones?
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>>539171560
laser eye ronaldo would have been better honestly
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>>539176202
Mag, groot and monster hulk does use animation cancels. Is this list even legit?
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>>539176202
MK belongs in his own list of mandatory animations because he will refuse to use his team up ability if you even think about pressing another button.
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>>539189934
>>539185643
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>>539182880
Made to be wrapped around Strange
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>>539190112
Based Goon Knight
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>>539189628
you’ve lost it. brown thought processes i guess.
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>>539190198
calm down timmy before you self harm again
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>>539189296
the joke is that that player didn't play thor at all in that tourney

>>539189369
>>539189568
yeah jeff is busted right now if you play him like a dive dps(which netease tried to fix with his rework but didn't really)
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>>539189369
It's triple support.
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>gold game
>look inside
>GMs and celestials
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>>539189527
Him manhandling the Avengers in Slorenia was what actually influenced the Sokovia storyline in the movie
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>>539190236
You lost you smelly dravidian stop embarrassing yourself now
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>>539190236
>>539190198
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No fuck chicks and fuck ANgela. I'm suck of them being so picky with her charge. The shit misses for no fucking reason at all.
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>>539188684
Tevit
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>>539189568
>He's legit good. I'll gladly take a Jeff
Jeff is the worst Strategist in the game. Every single time a Jeff is picked on the team I know I have to play twice as a hard to compensate if I want to win.
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>>539190783
>fuck chicks and fuck ANgela.
heh
Anyway apparently she's like Magik you aim to the right of the target
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>>539189296
>Jeff and Thor
/mrg/ wrong again
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I've seen enough
nerf Adam
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>winning teams
>both banned Jeff
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>Play nothing but Angela since release
>Get fed up with all the bullshit she goes through
>Play Thor once
>Get instant value spamming Awakening
>Good at 1v1ing anything Angela struggled with
>Mini Angela charge on 3 second cd without the retarded hitbox issues
>Free slow/grounded with thunder dome because why not

yeah.. why should I trade all this for a mobility meme character that has 100 soft counters?
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>Constantly get solo ult'd
>Team dominates in K/D but loses the match because they don't play objective
Now I remember why I quit
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>>539191749
Are you me?!
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>>539191740
You are describing the exact same shit Spiderman players go through. I'm so glad netease was able to capture the feeling of pointlessness you get from practicing and playing Spidey and transferred it to a vanguard.

I can't wait until they add a support who has to get close to the enemy to steal life charges from them and then bring them back to their teammates to heal them. They'll have unique and interesting movement and will get insta shutdown by all the cc in the game and some random character getting more and new cc in the same patch. Like moon knight and Scarlet witch will get grounded/hindered/slow on their m2's.
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>>539191610
>Mantis banned
>no Cloakslop
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Is IF any good at peeling? Thinking of using him to jump around between supps and tanks and stick to annoying divers but I've literally never seen him being played like that.
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JEFFS GAME
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>mfw had a dream where a developer went rogue in the company and every patch he increased the ass size of Sue, the thighs of Emma and the beasts of Angela by a percentage of a percentage, just to see how long people would notice and say something to the company on Twitter
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JEFF'S WORLD
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>>539192068
it depends on who you are peeling against
he's great into dive tanks, not so much a scarlet witch or psylocke
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>>539192068
>Is IF any good at peeling?

A good Iron Fist alternates between attacking the backline, hunting flyers, peeling and sometimes fighting on point in the frontline.
He's especially good at peeling off vanguards because of his % damage on Yat Jee Chung Kuen.
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>jeff is picked by shitters in a """tournament"""
>shitters use this as an excuse to pick jeff and saying "he's great guys!"
>proceeds to throw matches with how useless they are
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I’m not feeling the classic Cap skin bros. Idk what it is. I liked the classic Thor skin more than the default. But the classic skin just ain’t doing it for me. I think I like the armour, black undertights, and covered ears of the default too much.
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>>539181546
>Daredevil should absolutely be a tank so that people whine about him until he's nerfed into being completely unplayable.

You will take your 1.5 Iron Fist duelist and you will enjoy it.
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>>539191980
Isn't is especially stupid for a Vanguard, a literally tip-of-the-spear archetype character, to have the same struggle as Spiderman?
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>>539192562
>cap is picked by shitters in a ‘tournament’
>devs use this as an excuse to nerf cap saying ‘he’s broken guys!’
>proceed to make cap so useless he’s back to being a throw pick
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>>539192852
You are correct. They will keep nerfing Squirrel Girl too.
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Cap and Jeff have a high skill floor AND ceiling
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>>539192960
Aka they’re shit
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More tanks should have CC immunity on abilities. The fact that Mag and Emma not only have CC immunity on cooldown, but can also grant it to a teammate or CC an enemy are why they have been the top vanguards for multiple seasons.
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>>539192562
how is this any different from C&D players?
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>he doesn't have a skin for all heroes in his strike squad
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>>539192562
I hate Jeff players that don't counter ult Luna and Invisible Women ults. Ones a perfect circle ready to eat anyone inside of it and the other is another perfect circle everyone crowds around.
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I can not wait for retards to stop picking Angela so we can go back to sensible team comps. God, one hero a month was a mistake.
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>>539191028
My man, someday I'll identify artists but that day is not today. How have you been finding Thor though? You been able to play with his team up much?
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We need another double season.
Kang and Bishop.
Cable and Deadpool.
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>DPS monkeys pick high skill characters that require aim or other heroes to create openings for them
>proceed to create no space and provide no peeling for the supports
>one of them switches role so I can go DPS
>pick scarlet witch
>hold M1 and W
>guarantee victory
I have a love hate relationship with this bitch
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>>539191980
Another sensible anon who knows Spiderman has to jump through 2000 hoops for 0 rewards. I really wish they'd do something about him so I don't feel bad when I play him.
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>load into character selection
>2 people immediately tried to instalock CD
>2 other people immediately tried to instalock luna
>the ones who were too slow are forced to flex dps and tank
>go negative and be dog shit
Lmao the support main meme is real. These people literally can't play anything other than a healbot that chills in the back and gets carried by doing the bare minimum participation.
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>>539193451
>my bronze story
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>>539193085
>one hero a month was a mistake
One shit/mediocre hero a month that doesn't shake up the meta was a mistake. Blade didn't do anything, Angela didn't do anything, and now we have another month of the stalest game play from S3
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>>539192562
(you) issue
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>>539190736
>>539190747
typed through tears
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>>539193205
I have a love love relationship with this gypsy Goddess
Always fun to play, easy stressless aim, always do at least OK with her
always chase away/kill divers, so my supports stay happy

and good skins
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>>539192809
I'd say so. Solo tanking is pretty rough and Angela shares a lot of the same problems as Spidey and others. Meaning there will be times her best option is to hide and wait for cooldowns and a moment to strike. A DPS being out of the battle sucks but at least 2 tanks might be able to keep the space held while they wait.

>>539193346
The problems that affect him are starting to be noticed by more people because they're affecting more characters. Before it was impossible to talk shit about namor or his team ups because people would just cover their ears and call you a salty dive cuck. Same deal with stuns and stun like effects in this game. Because holy shit there's way too fucking many and they keep adding more and more to new characters and old while so many characters are completely negated because of it. Emma alone cockblocks most tanks.
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>>539193937
I hate her so much. Cloak too. I wish both of them had some sort of meter management to use their infinite ammo auto aim beams. I play Scarlet with my m1 taped down because there's literally no reason not to.
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>>539194034
>Because holy shit there's way too fucking many and they keep adding more and more to new characters and old
Fuck playing Hulk is a nightmare because of this shit. Every little displacement shuts out your jump charge so you're just fucked and he's basically a dumb meat wall between his shield cooldowns.
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>>539194034
>Emma alone cockblocks most tanks.
Sounds like tanks were badly designed to begin with.
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i wish i didn't get tilted playing against actual people, im bored of vs ai matches....
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tanks should generally have CC and be resistant to CC, while duelists should be vulnerable to it and use their mobility or high damage to compensate
squishy duelists like Mantis can have CC too if they don't have another way to escape divers
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How exactly are you supposed to play as StarLord? stick by healers?
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>>539194561
>tanks should generally have CC and be resistant to CC, while duelists should be vulnerable to it
Unfortunately the devs think otherwise. Enjoy the fact Bucky's uppercut now disables movement abilites and Pheonix has enough escapes and regen to ignore it.
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>>539194634
He is a flanker, so flank
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>logan is an attack dog
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>>539194634
Watch how a good starlord player play.
Learn from his playstyle.
Simple as that.
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the last two battlepasses are absolutely dogshit
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>>539195396
>a good starlord player
they don't exist
>>539194634
press H and switch to pyslocke
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>>539194745
well hopefully they'll think about why their game is dying and try to rework things more
almost all the tanks being shit at actually holding space is the game's biggest problem, with support ult meta second and high sustained healing + low out of healing ttk the third
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>>539194265
It's so silly to me that knockback interrupts so much shit. If I don't dive someone as spidey with all three swings I'm going to die as the first one gets cancelled by invisible woman pull, then the second by invisible woman again, then by Thor, iron fist, blade, fantastic, moon knight, etc. I'm fully on board that knockback shouldn't interrupt movement abilities and waste their cooldowns. It even affects some ults it's so dumb. Hulk shouldn't lose his jump charge if he gets knocked up. I've even got it down to pull venom off the map as Spiderman because I can use my uppercut when I see him start his swing.

Just make it so knockback adds and subtracts velocity instead of completely overriding it and interrupting movement abilities.
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>>539195405
>the last two battlepasses are absolutely dogshit
All battle passes except S0 and S1 have been bad.
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>>539194034
>Emma alone cockblocks most tanks.
A 1.6 second stun grab tied to an ability that is on itself on a 18s cooldown doesn't cockblock any tank. That + a kick into a wall does 120dmg which is less dmg/s and burst than most Duelists.

Only legit bad players think Emma shits on other Vanguards.
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>>539196546
>Never ever getting the mag regal outfit
That’s his best skin by a mile too…
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>>539197006
>>Never ever getting the mag regal outfit
They did re-release S0 battle pass, so it's possible they can bring back old ones.
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Ok, so I played Angela for a bit now, and I think she's broken.
Easily B tier and above.
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>loki is now consistently worst healer across all ranks
weee. who would have thought
chinks have no idea how to balance a hero
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>>539200023
Loki is still good. None of the things which makes him strong was nerfed.
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>tfw every match is still just me solo tanking, or the other "tank" is angela (played by a dps/healer main)
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>>539200327
I main Thor so I've been enjoying it personally. From my end, I'm still solo tanking, but now I get a new move and some buffs.
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>>539200023
>loki is now consistently worst healer
+1 retarded /mrg/ opinion
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You need to have ADHD to play Starlord
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>>539200279
>rivalstracker.com/heroes
yea keep playing your 45% wr healer. Loki is more of a throw pick than Jeff now.
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>allies pick angela, black panther and psycloke
>"ok cool, i don't need to worry about pressuring enemy backline"
>none of them go for the enemy backline, with widow and their healers being free
Quickplay really is the special olympics.
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>>539201239
>uses winrates
>doesn't understand how winrates works in pubs
>now unironically thinks luna is a terrible healer
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Cloak&Dagger is the Mercy of Rivals. I ban her whenever I can not because she is good, but because I hate her playerbase.
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>>539201718
Rocket is the Mercy of Rivals but Rocket players aren't ready to have that discussion yet.
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>>539199421
because she's bugged and have infinite charge refill
>change to hold to charge
>tap charge then M1 then move forward
enjoy your automatically refill. It only reset if you charge again
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>>539181053
>All of a sudden invis women know that their bubble can ground fliers where was that intuition the previous 3 season?

Angela is a giant melee target compared to every other flyer.
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>>539182098
What is DSL?
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>>539201718
why do you hate Tandy and Angela?
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>>539162706
>movespeed
??
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>>539201718
>>539201884
I think it's Jeff by far cause of the popularity factor not based on the quality of the character but purely because on cute/hot factor.
Rocket is starting to rival him though.
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you have Animal Crossing backline - would you win?
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>>539186510
>If you are too retarded to counter.

Countering isn't dependent on one person especially if that one person willing to counter pick isn't playing Duelist.
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>>539184193
Hulk's Gamma Burst can hit multiple players.
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>>539181053
>>539202197
Because all the other flyers are hovering a mile in the air so the Vortex has to be a skillshot and have your team follow up.

Angela is a melee flyer, the vortex is also a wall and a tarpit to trap her so it's almost 100% chance to hit by IW.
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>>539193130
>bishop
gross no thanks
>>539195350
that makes sense yes
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>>539195405
We know this yes. Damn shame but it’s the truth.
>>539201718
>not banning her because you’re racist
Gay.
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>>539193000
You forgot to mention Hulk.
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>>539202294
Doctor strange Sucking Lips. Lips made for wrapping around the Sorcerer Supreme’s penis essentially.
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>>539201212
he honestly is pretty absurd with how many things are going on with him at once
>>539189010
that didn’t happen
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>>539201385
you are the retarded that can't read statistics.

Luna has >60% pick rate , it's justified low winrate since both teams always have a luna which means her winrate can't never be higher than 50%.
Unlike Loki who has low pick rate, and low winrate across all ranks. Which means whoever picks him lose more often.
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>>539203480
>mongoloid makes the same retarded proof of how inhumanely retarded he is
midwits that stare themselves blind on winrates without understanding them is always funny, i could make 2 post long breakdown and your autism still wouldn't be cured, sad, but funby
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>>539203480
>doesnt even understand law of large numbers
>tries to lectures others on probability
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>leave penalties exceeding 15 mins and 30 mins
>combined with horrifically bad matchmaking that matches stacks and wildly different skill tiers

Truly makes people not want uninstall the game. Brilliant move, chang.
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>>539201239
>Loki is more of a throw pick than Jeff now.

Explain in detail why Loki is "bad" now and why Jeff is "good now. Prove you know what you're talking about.
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>one of those matches where your team instantly crumbles in any engagement and the enemy just steamrolls them

What can you even do at this point?
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>Emma still permabanned
>Now Hulk too
Yeah, time to stop playing ranked and go QP only I guess
That or I just let other retards play tank instead while I lock dps/support
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>horrible team diff, leave
>backfill moments from loss
>bot match
>backfill moments from loss
>bot match
>horrible team diff, leave

how was your morning?
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>>539205181
>play Wolverine and destroy enemy team
>play Mag and destroy enemy team
>get a Knull match
>leave
>get queued into another Knull match
>leave again
>get a 15 min penalty
>close the game
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>>539204775
Swap SG and try to have a good time
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>Ranked
>my characters getting banned
>people throwing tantrums
vs
>QP
>bots
>resource rumble
There is no winning, game sucks now
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few games on angela says she's a beefy assassin (gameplay wise) but without the damage
>W until the bar is full
>fly around until you see a squishy
>fly towards them and melee + m1
>shift
>melee + m1
>gets kills if done perfectly, but if you fuck up
>bring out the axes
plenty of time for them to react and get heals
>all this assuming your team has another "proper" tank
can't wait for the next tank
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>new to Thor
>keep accidentally activating the team-up cause I don't quite know all my buttons
>spear hits a guy and kills them at least 50% of the time
Hell yeah. Value.
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>>539204775
>play dive character
>kill one healer in backline while the other is now targeting me
>kill feed says 3 of my team mates died to a lone thor

I don't even know man. See if you can get someone to play tic tac toe with you.
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There is no countering BP. Only damage control.
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>>539208305
I saw this too. You just spam her shift with the hold version on until it works right?
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>>539208220
thing? bucky? storm? namor?
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Man I love being CC'd so much. It's so fun to lose control my character for seconds at time. It's so fucking being chained CC and only one character in the entire game cleanse it or make me immune to it. And do you know what this game needed a most? Another flyer that also has CC. I can see why the game continues to soar past it's previous peak with each new character release. Such fun and engaging game design.
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>>539208453
With the four of them waiting in ambush? Maybe.
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>>539208409
tap M1, tap shift, press move forward
must be in hold to charge mode
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>>539208561
I'm sure it'll get patched soon. That being said I am totally fine with her bar always charging like that anyways in addition to when she flies/blocks. Then just making it so only a full charge does anything for her attacks.
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Can anyone tell me what are today's missions and rewards from the event? I might not be able to play until night.
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>>539208464
Go back to TF2 if CC mind breaks you so hard
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>>539208305
>>539208561
Overwrite by you pressing shift again or blocking. And I think flying forward too. It's pretty decent for a passive DPS boost but it's not going to be too high in the chaos of a fight.
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>>539207174
>my characters getting banned
Wolverine or Hulk player?
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>>539194634
The good ones I see always seem to be in the air
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I don’t event read challenges anymore. I just play the game and complete them all somehow.
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>>539208825
t. Worthless dog without standards
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>achievement = get one kill as Angela with an assist from Loki
>no one picks Loki when I pick Angela
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>>539185939
High sustained damage to kill walls. Punisher is the best example of this. Thor is decent. SG is decent. Or just a high mobility melee comp who can just get around/over walls

Hela is immobile so any diver.

WS doesn't exactly have a hard counter IMO. But he's a Frontline brawler so any character with splash damage or heavy upfront damage can fuck him
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So I did a little experiment
I played strange and went 13/3 in complete troll rank game and lost 21pts
Then I played rocket in another ranked game and afk'd with 0/1/0 and lost 15pts
Soooo do u not suppose to play tanks or what...
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>>539185939
Jean
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inhumans >>>>>>>> shit >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> muties
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>>539210878
Your performance is tight to the population of who plays your hero in your rank. No one fights for kills with Rocket, so not dying and having high healing numbers means that you’re “carrying” compared to the average rocket player.
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Why did they give Cap such a fat ass?
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>play chink fist
>always feel like i'm in control of a match and can contribute

Is this the power of playing netease's nepobaby?
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>>539180403
I never thought Jean felt like a strategist in any way, she's duelist through and through, I just wasn't expecting her kit to be entirely Phoenix powers and none of her telepathy/telekinesis.
>>539181989
Sue and Jean have psionic powers, but Sue's not telekinetic: she can't lift or move things at a distance. Her thing is force fields and invisibility and they're psionic in nature.
>>539182887
Xavier was leaked to be strategist around Season 2, and he'll likely be the Krakoa version who's walking and wears Cerebro on his head. Wouldn't make sense to use the wheelchair version when he's got statues on the Krakoa map that show otherwise.
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>>539182887
The most mobile strat being a wheelchair user would be kino
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>>539183285
Pick a hero you are bad at and get him to 30-40% winrate. After about twenty games you'll stop seeing doom stacks.
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>>539200023
It's the classic overreaction after nerfing a very OP char.
Is he much worse than before? Yes, he probably ain't even at the top this time, but it was necessary to bring him down a bit to freshen the support meta.

His lamp and Ult still save matches tho, and his sustain is not even near bad (it probably requires more aim now tho).
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>>539211958
Thats the thing though I didnt heal anyone I had 0s across the board,the system is telling me strange is easier to win with than rocket which is just fucking false.
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>>539182595
Cloak is actually a chill and calm dude because he's dedicated a lot of time and concentration into controlling his Darkforce powers and not letting it take over him. Tandy is just his blonde sidekick who can throw light daggers whose powers differ between adaptations, same with whether Cloak has his original body or he just materialises one out of Darkforce. He's always been the more interesting one of the duo.
>>539189682
As usual the shitter crying that adaptations are bad and you should read comics has no actual recommendations or response to your question because he doesn't read them himself.
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>>539212813
>I never thought Jean felt like a strategist in any way
Her portrayals are generally more supportive and focusing on her mind powers. Netease did the opposite.
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>>539213247
>His lamp and Ult still save matches tho, and his sustain is not even near bad (it probably requires more aim now tho).

The only relevant nerf was to his damage, his burst healing is still amongst the highest in the game, the lamp is OP and his Ult only got better since he doesn't want to stay in enemy form after ulting anyway.
It's just people being dumb.
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>>539213331
but I knew she was gonna be Phoenix so I always expected a duelist or an aggressive vanguard, but never strategist. telekinetically pull up rocks from the ground and form a temporary shield, or burn enemies with the Phoenix force, that's what I expected.
>>539212473
As far as I'm concerned, that's America's ass.
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>>539211573
>the only relevant Inhuman in the past 25 years is now a mutant and part of the X-Men
KWAB inhumancels
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>>539182404
Is this in-game?
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The lamp isn’t OP. It takes 2 seconds to shoot them down AND you can remotely take down by focusing his clones so he can’t lamp allies. His ult is also shit. It’s an AoE healing kit but with a long set up. That makes it objectively worse than all the AoR healing ults. There is no bigger sign that someone is a shitter than thinking Loki is OP.
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>>539213901
who?
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>>539180317
>no cleavage
I like panty hose too but putting it on Felicia should be a crime
>>539182595
>they're Mister Negative split into two characters
how tragic that Slott's influence is so far and wide-reaching that people think C&D is a split of Mr. Negative instead of him being a merge of C&D
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>>539214090
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>>539214296
who?
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>>539180317
>No cleavage for the woman known for running around with her tits out
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>>539213901
quality over quantity, friend, also
>poo in the loo mutie
you can keep her
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>>539213964
>The lamp isn’t OP

You can spread it in 3 locations instantly, makes everyone immortal in an aoe, heals them for all damage and passively heals allies and is only on a 30s cooldown.
It doesn't matter if you instantly shoot it down in 2-3 seconds because by then it has already done the job of preventing one or more allies from dying while healing them to pull or invalidated an enemy Ult or something.
There is no better basic ability in the game.
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>>539213331
>Her portrayals are generally more supportive
No they’re not. Jean is a mixed bag of both offense an defense.
>>539213774
There was way more they could have done than that but they phoned it in so this is what we got.
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>>539214343
yo momma
>>539214434
>you can keep her
picrel
don't worry I'm totally sure Black Bolt is gonna be relevant again one day and he'll totally be a cool and interesting character like the rest of the Royal Family
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>>539213901
>past 25 years
BB was relevant for a good while too. Just not in any live action stuff.
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>>539213297
>delsuional cloaktard shit eater deep throating live action slop
Par for the course.
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>muh loki is garbage now!
Only nerf he got was to clone damage and healing.
From 157 dmg/s to 136 dmg/s and 210 hp/s to 182 hp/s. Only heroes that heal more is Invis by 2 hp/s and a Luna with share the stage on a single target at 22 hp/s.
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The ONLY thing good about Jeff is how he can be a mile away and spray his healing cum across the stage.
So if I ever see you pick Jeff and not to this 24/7 I will report you for throwing.
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>>539214882
Medusa is the only inhuman more cool and interesting than Black Bolt.
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>>539215496
that’s really not true but ok
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>>539215454
The throwing report surprisingly works
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>>539215178
>invis barely has more healing, but in turn much much easier to kill
Buff invis to be 300 hp. Why not?
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>>539215139
>non-response
>"haha you must be newfag lolz"
I pity obsessed pretenders like you, nothing on your brains except to be mad at something or laugh at something you pretend is funny just to feel something
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>>539217390
>>"haha you must be newfag lolz"
>retard so assblasted xhe starts hallucinating things never said
Get lost faggot
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>>539217471
Holy fuck invis looks good in this
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>>539217679
>brings up trannies out of nowhere
like I said, nothing on your brain except to be mad at something
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>>539217064
>Buff invis to be 300 hp. Why not?
I'd rather they increase the knockback distance on her melee combo.
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>>539212696
>Play Hawkeye
>Don't have washed aim and can consistently hit divers even when they try to jump around like crack heads

Is this the power of adderall?
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>>539217471
FUCK Punisher isn't in the pass.
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>team picks angela as our only vanguard into bucky and iron fist
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>>539217471
SUSAN BREASTS!!
SUSANS TUMMY!!
AAAAAAAAAAAAA
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>>539218204
Then she flies around never touching point or attacking cause shes getting nuked to high hell
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>>539217471
If it comes with a color variant or some unique effects I might pick one of these up if only to have something to actually spend my Unstable Molecules on

>reads post again as I'm typing the captcha
Ah fuck, I just realized they got me. Never mind
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>>539217921
Thanks for proving the point. No more humiliation for your masochistic retard ass now. Bye.
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>>539217471
namor is so lucky
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>>539217471
Wait, if these are paid, does that mean the event pass has Mantis, Thing and Torch? Because I don't want to burn gold coins just for 1 Mantis skin.
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FUCK THEY RUINED HER FEET TO MATCH THE MODEL FOR HER HEELS
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>>539218406
>gets proven to be a tranny-obsessed schizoid
>"no more talking with you since you're clearly the retarded one and not me"
lovely thing to admit the truth yourself, isn't it?
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>>539218445
LMAO
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>>539217963
I can agree with that. At the moment it is kinda hard to use, at least for me
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>>539217921
Take the L, dude. You lost. Hard.
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>>539217921
>out of nowhere
i wouldn’t say that after you just finished writing up this embarrassing post >>539213297
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I'm opening a portal

>>539218663
>>539218663
>>539218663
>>539218663
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>>539218445
I can’t see whats wrong with them. Im not a feetfag
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>>539218445
Looks perfect to me
Buying day 1
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>>539218554
How is that being obsessed? It’s a pretty common insult on this website on par with ‘faggot’ at this point. If the shoe fits the foot…
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>>539218776
Her heel is blocky and huge and her bridge is too high because it's model as if she was in shoes that lift it.
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>>539218626
Embarrassing because I wrote an accurate post about a character’s comic lore? Or are you just seething because muh black man reeeee? You continue to prove that you have nothing on your mind except wanting to be mad about something, no wonder you’re picking this pointless fight with me just to feel some sort of vindication. And funny thing with the samefagging here >>539218623 within the same minute, “take the L dude” is a hilarious phrase to respond with after admitting to be a schizoid. Go on, tell me once again how I’m wrong because you said so, and how you won’t respond to me anymore just because you don’t wanna embarrass yourself further.
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>>539219067
I can kinda see it now. Thats fucking funny
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>>539218417
>battlepass has leftover S3 Luna skin
>next few costume bundles are leftover S3 skins
>next month Emma gets a leftover S2 skin
Holy fuck can these devs do anything right?
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>>539158156
Hive and maybe Crystal will come in the game
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>>539219124
>samefag within the same minute when that’s literally impossible
you are one clueless dumb bastard and need to kill yourself you shameless redditor more than one person thinks you’re an irredeemable retard im sorry this is so heartbreaking to you but that’s just the way it is i’ll shit on you all day whenever and wherever i please now beat it cuck
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>>539219124
>cries about favorite capeslop being shat on
>fellates fictional groid
Looks like a tranny to me bud. Truth hurts. Cry harder you mind broken bitch.
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>>539219124
You type like the quintessential fart huffing redditor dude you’re such a loser
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>>539177902
I unironically want to play Trapster
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>people are already starting to abuse the Angela thrust bug
I fucking hate streamers so much
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>>539225979
what's the bug, i wanna abuse
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>>539193863
typed through shit smears and curry
see >>539190736



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