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HE is coming edition
>Wiki for character guides and such (Under construction)
https://wiki.play2xko.com/en-us/
>Official link
https://2xko.riotgames.com/en-us/
>How do I get in?
Click the link and register for the beta or ask in the bread for an invite code
>Last round
>>538991329
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dead shit game
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whos the best partner for blitz?
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>>539160084
darius and yasuo
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>>539160180
thank you will go with darius
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i don't know if i want to commit yet or wait for the full release. I still have to reach vanquisher in strive.
For now i'm just playing vs lv8 bots to get the feel for the game and develop this fucking muscle memory for these goddamn macros
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i wish kd were more standardized so i would know what to expect and route accordingly
instead you have soft kd where they rise up immediately and skd that looks identical to hkd but with the ability to tech.
It's all so messy
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I'd rather slime
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So, is the game any good?
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>>539162348
Yeah but it needs Qiyana
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>>539162348
nah, i give it 6 months
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>>539162348
>roster is absolutely ass
>looks amateurish overall
hehhhh
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>>539162348
fun but really small and bad roster. A shame there are quite a lot of good designs from league.
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>>539162348
Has a lot of sauce but the controls are awkward, there are legitimately too many mechanics, and the roster is horrible even if there isn't anything wrong with any individual character
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Darius bleed is kind of ridiculous. He definitely doesn't have the best kit ever, but I just watched supernoon rape through a tournament doing basic shit and getting miles of free damage off keeping bleed up.
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>>539162348
It's very fun but the starting roster currently is kinda mid and very small; 9 characters for a tag fightan is a hard pill to swallow especially if there isn't really a champ in the line up that appeals to you. It's really the only thing that has me worrying about the game cause otherwise the actual gameplay is fun
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>>539167976
My problem with Darius is that he feels like the fighting game equivalent of melatonin, motherfucker is so boring to watch and to fight.
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I just went through the trouble of having a person in another hemisphere create an account for me so that we could play duos in his region. However, as it turns out, that didn't work. There's some fuckery with the lobbies, it just threw me into an empty room and there's no way around it
What even is the point of having giga network infrastructure if you won't let people play cross region?
Fuck this game
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>>539162348
yeah just needs more characters
i don't know if anyone else is experiencing this but it already feels kinda stale playing against the same character combos over and over
still mad fun though, there's so much you can do with your assist i don't think the game as a whole will get old for me for a while. i'll probably main it until i get to a level that feels like mastery
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>>539160084
anyone who has mixups into solo damage
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if you type ''niggers'' you get an instant 15 minute timeout
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>>539171580
north american game north american rule
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>>539162348
9/10, my favorite fighting game since MvC2 honestly. The only reason its not 10/10 is because I want more characters. When they add more it will be the perfect game.
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>>539171580
I know for sure at least leffen and noon managed to do duos together on their main accounts, so cross region is fine
The likely answer is Riot blacklisted your account specifically
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>>539173938
wow the honemoon period is hitting this guy hard
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>>539174089
I've been playing it since alpha 1
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jinx is kinda hot...
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REEEEEEEEE STOP COMING OUT AS A MEDIUM I DONT WANT TO USE THE STICK INPUT FOR THIS
also there must be a better/more consistent bnb for ahri right. spoonfeed me please
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Why does 2H feel like it whiffs all the fucking time. People just jump right over you at angles it feels like it shouldn't work

Best character to pair with Jinx?
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>>539162348
feel pretty much the same as >>539173938
this game whoops fucking ass, it's legitimately so much more fun than any other modern fighter to me. all it needs is a bigger roster, but even then, my favorite character is already in the game, so everything else is just bonus to me. also the netcode is legitimately god tier
praying enough str*ight people buy ahri and jinx skins to keep the servers online for several years
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>>539177329
if you mean jinx 2h, someone showed a thread or two ago it sucks compared to the others, the hitbox barely goes above her compared to the others
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I will force myself to love this game now! But damn, there are so many mechanics, it's crazy.
I feel like fighting games need to be f2p, I can't see newfags buying a fighting game for full price.
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>>539173419
soon to be dead game nigga
you'll rule over worms
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>>539173938
Based. I agree but MVC3 instead. Game is fucking awesome.

Would you be willing to run sets with people here? Probably gonna make a smurf so I can play anonymously.
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these dudes got sour grapes over a free to play game which means they literally either a. have ZERO friends and thus no means of getting in or b. their computer can't fucking run it
LMAO
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>>539177640
i have to admit hitting the happy birthday with Darius gives me the happy chemicals
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>>539179243
i dont care that he doesnt have "le epic mix and oki loop setups"
nothing feels better than catching some vi fag dashing around like a sperg and splattering her on the fucking floor
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>>539178841
I just mean in general, but yeah Jinx's 2H feels like ass too. It really feels like you should be able to AA an aerial approach but super jumps seem to just go straight over someone's head so you whiff a 2H or AA attempt and eat shit.

It's really weird
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>Ekko, Vi, Yasuo, Blitz
Am I overreacting or do they feel kinda fucked up, as in really strong
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>>539179069
>I can't see newfags buying a fighting game for full price.
Just ignore when they did that with Strive, SF6 and Tekken 8, and really ignore it when it happens with Tokon.
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>>539179819
Vi Yasuo and Blitz are definitely insane. Ekko is just alright but very tricky so he can be hard to fight if you don't know what he's doing.
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>>539179819
those are probably the top 4. but also illaoi and ahri are both massively underrated
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I hate how you straight up can't correct your side after crossing someone up
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>>539180184
>jump forward intending to hit same side
>cross over by .1 pixel
>button whiffs
>die
it's frustrating
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>>539180184
they should add a manual turn-around button
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>>539179914
Tokon is Marvel, so the FGC + Marvel fans will buy it. Tekken 8 and Strive are dead, but yea SF6 is okay-ish.
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>>539148168
You can't compare DBFZ to this. As a casual Dragonball fan first, DBFZ is ridiculously fun from the get go. The game feels like a love letter, when you play it you really feel like you are Goku.
This game is nothing like that and I'm not even shitting on 2xko
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>>539180825
I realize you want to gass up papa Riots new game but you don't have to lie to do that
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>>539181084
Not really, I just want to commit to a fighting game and Project L and Tokon are on my list...
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>>539181084
>dude didn't even fucking mention 2xko
you're sick in the head larry
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>>539180826
many are comparing Tokon to early DBFZ without the fullscreen normals
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I just had my first perfect bros
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I legit feel like I either played more against duos than 1v1 or it was like a 50/50 split
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bro if you look up "privilege" in the dictionary it's a pic of yasuo 2h
absolutely ridiculous how much better his AA is than mine
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>>539181932
yeah I'm kinda surprised
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>>539181942
this is my issue also with the game
it's Riot. Riot is not only notoriously bad at game balancing but also known for showing favoritism for certain characters in their games

the game balancing issue might not be a big deal since at least they are willing to release updates quickly if needed (I hope, they do it with every fucking game, if they left some op shit in this game for months it would be hilarious) and it's a fighting game. but the favoritism thing is a real issue
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>>539176406
>Jinx is very hot
ftfy
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>>539181942
>havent touched League in 10 fucking years
>still distinctly remember the menace that was Yasuo mid
>he's a menace in 2XKO too
fuck
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>>539182081
it's doubly worrisome because recently darius got his first showing in pro play in YEARS and they gutted the living fuck out of him within 2 patches lol
hope that doesn't happen here!
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>>539181942
This but also his 5M
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>>539182081
>at least they are willing to release updates quickly if needed (I hope, they do it with every fucking game, if they left some op shit in this game for months it would be hilarious)
ehm bro? your funny cat with a book in LoL?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-hrx3p7yx2M
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How bad is Vanguard in 2xko?
I never trusted their Valorant anticheat
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>>539176406
>>539182207
Hey Ekko when's the Noxian show releasing
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>>539182758
They have the courtesy of letting you close it from the tray menu rather than just forcing it down
I always do and just restart the PC if I need to play
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I got the LTG aura brehs
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>>539181932
Its actually pretty fun fighting duos, playing solo sidekick and winning literally 1v2 is pretty cool.
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>>539182874
gj king
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>You don't actually get the gear from unlocking them in the character mastery thingy, you only get the privilege to buy them
Fuck that
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Fix......the......frame..........drops...........please.......
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>>539183798
>Getting help from Z*un trash
Go away
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>>539183846
compared to the other choices on the roster it's fine tho i am tempted to pick up braum idk how well he'd pair with big d
once i get a second noxian or garen it's over
also here's tonight's funny tuko
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>>539183798
I use the same team but Blitz as the "main" lol
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>>539184201
blitz is really fun but they're absolutely gonna gut his damage, it's so easy to do 70% on fucking accident and every time i do it i'm like "why is the blitz i barely practice with doing way more than the darius i sweat my ass off with"
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Not a single one of my league friends has tried 2xko
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all 0 of them?
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fiddling a bit with juggernaut darius, it's fun but his dinky little fireball is genuinely completely worthless without an assist to help out with it
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>>539185496
also doing jugg vs jugg means seeing level 3 animations happening WAY more often. don't like that
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It feels like this game was supposed to attract a whole new audience of players but I see it's just the same old fighting game people playing it.
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>>539184410
same, i livestreamed it to them and they thought it looked ok but they don't care enough to try it
i mean why would they when their main isn't in
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>>539185496
fireball picks up after a throw I think, you may or may not be able to get a super too, think I saw a darius bro post a clip of that here
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>>539186694
yeah, you can do throw>fireball>headless, but it feels like juggernaut it's way better to save meter for level 3 since they have to respect its damage + invuln
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>>539181453
It's still lying, new players bought all those games
>>539181586
look where we are
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So what do you do when you're in the corner against a Blitz on knockdown? If you jump, you're fucked. If you recover, you're fucked.
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>no Fiddlesticks
>no Warwick
>no Cho'gath
>no Soraka
>no Tristana
>no Silco

What the fuck are these roster picks
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>>539186671
>gatekeeps all of NA so he always shows up in internationals
>chokes and throws to literally every other nation
Hate this closeted nigga like you wouldn't believe
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>>539187116
the answer to every "i'm on defense in a bad situation" in literally every fighting game ever made is "don't be in that situation to begin with"
if you jump and he goes for meaty command grab, you're safe and can punish
if you roll and he predicts a jump and jumps, you're safe
if you do getup attack, i'm pretty sure it beats command grab (but i think it loses to armored command grab)
it's just rock paper scissors man

>>539187297
>silco
tourist-kun isn't happy with all the arcane slop already in the game?
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>fought against juggernaut ekko a few times
ok this is the least fun I've had with the game so far
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>>539187594
it doesn't seem like he'd be as good without someone to help him set his bullshit up, but also ekko doing even more damage than he already does while also being unkillable and having fury sounds enraging
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>>539187576
i'm not a tourist i just don't give a fuck about most of the league cast. would you really put ryze or shen in the game over silco's stupid ass. dude doesn't even fight but he'd be a better pick
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>>539188351
>would you really put ryze or shen in the game over silco's stupid ass
yes in a fucking heartbeat lol how is this a question
shen especially come on now dawg
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>>539188536
you're fucking crazy
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>>539186082
Anyone who thought it would attract a new audience after they revealed it was tag kusoge with ToDs and unreactable 25-25-25-25 mix from any blocked hit was a complete retard. It's a combination of the worst, most unappealing aspects of fighters, the only unappealing factor it lacks is demanding execution for the most basic things. These devs genuinely believe that the only reason why most people don't enjoy terrible games like MvC3 is because wavedashing was too hard.
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>>539188351
I want them to keep Silco far away from any game or other League project, and so would you if you actually like the character. They already damaged him beyond recognition in S2, who the fuck wants more of that?
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>>539188792
>prominent figures in the FGC wind up as devs or consultants for a new game
>game ends up being some kind of fuckmess that only true freaks enjoy
i need them to do some honest self-reflection
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i have to admit this game is very fun on a lowish level
if it wasn't butt ugly and giga pozzed i wouldnt rag on it, even if its tag kuso
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>>539188907
i haven't touched league in over 10 years so i genuinely have no idea what's happened to the lore but knowing riot and having watched season 2, i'm going to agree with you on hoping my boy stays dead
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night shift started early eh boys?
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>>539189092
>pic
im kind of sad they changed darius' expression from a straight up ahegao to just a silly smile
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dead shit game
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alive fun game
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What's a good easy partner for Jinx?
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>>539191317
i see a lot of vi, yasuo, and ekko with her. sometimes ahri. i guess it just depends on what you want
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>>539171580
So this thing is region locked? shieeeeet I used an ancient account when I lived in the other side of the planet to register for the beta.
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>>539162348
Has cool tech with a lot of depth
shame it's wasted on a tag fighter with a smaller roster than launch For Honor
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>>539171580
It has different shards (servers) that is assigned to you on first login based on your account region AND current IP. You'll have to use a VPN and make a new Riot account while having the VPN on and launching the game with it on.
Thankfully you don't have to keep it on while playing the game but it is so fucking retarded that they didn't just make it an option to change shards.
What's the fucking point of being THE developer of rollback netcode and then region locking your own goddamn game?
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>>539188792
holy fuck what a trvke
did they even need to make it ultra kusoge? like, ive heard launch dbfz was rather tame and people loved it
as you said there's a reason no one plays umvc3, the fgc is -273.15 iq, they glaze that game to hell and back off pure nostalgia but one modern evo where it was a main stage game was all it took
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>>539192005
>What's the fucking point of being THE developer of rollback netcode and then region locking your own goddamn game?
It's worse than that, they got THE Rollback guys and if there is one thing Riot excels at is network shit. They have a whole article on why their shit is so good
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>>539192363
american mahvel players have been a disaster for the fgc aside from justin wong
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>>539192363
>ive heard launch dbfz was rather tame and people loved it
Launch DBFZ had a lot of unintentional kusoge elements (like Android 16 ending every single string into a real 25-25-25-25 mix) but those were unintentional and got quickly patched out, with the clear trend being patching out oppressive mix and pressure and being a relatively low-power tag fighter, until the last few patches where they suddenly reversed course and added a bunch of retarded nonsense like making normals that used to have normal range go literally fullscreen without even adjusting the animations.
The FGC in general has this problem where all the "influencers" and other various assorted talking heads, not to mention the actual pro players, are all veterans, meaning they belong to the tiny minority that actually enjoyed old, busted fighters. This in turn means every new fighter has tot try to appeal to them or get shat on, while at the same time trying to make a game that is diametrically opposed to what they want in order to appeal to normal people who aren't fucked in the head. You can see this with 2xKO in spades. People who enjoy their optimal BnB having 1f links is not going to enjoy the lack of motion inputs and vice versa.
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>>539184145
DHC is so fun, but it's a shame babytag fuse and 2x assist are so much better
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>>539193061
>People who enjoy their optimal BnB having 1f links
I think they're all LARPers
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>>539193061
Wow, so new players think that games are made increasingly shit in order to appeal to vets who only like "old, busted fighters" rather than appealing to them. That's really interesting. Are you from a different universe?
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when is ranked
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when is eos
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>>539193915
Learn some reading comprehension. I'm saying that they are trying to appeal to both groups at once, but because said groups want diametrically opposed things, the end result is a half-way compromise that pleases none. You can't create a new popular fighter, because if you appeal only to normal people, "influencers" will shit on it and thus normal people will think it's shit and won't play it, and if you only appeal to the subhumans who enjoy kusoge gameplay any normal person will drop the game after a few hours, and if you try to appeal to both you end up with an abomination like 2xKO where nothing makes sense you are constantly left scratching your head as to why something works like it does.
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>>539193423
i think dhc is actually pretty strong purely because it's way, WAY easier to spend all the meter you gain. other fuses i tend to die with meter, and yeah you can super assist with that, but i still find myself getting higher value from dhc
then again i'm also lazy as fuck and haven't bothered labbing mix or oki but darius/blitz doesn't seem like the team for that anyway

>>539193061
>crying about how influencers ruin everything
sajam is one of 2xko's strongest soldiers and he's a literal fg zoomer whose first games were like, nu killer instinct and NRS dude, quit shitting your diaper
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>>539194436
the 19th iirc
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>>539195236
But Sajam is exactly the sort of subhuman who enjoys kusoge gameplay, a great example of what I mean. He fucking competed in Injustice, that's like the peak of western kusoge. Whether they actually played some boomer kusoges in the arcades in the 90s is not really relevant. And yeah of course he defends 2xKO, because he is the sort of person the game is made to appeal to with its unreactable mix from any blocked hit and roundstart ToD BnBs. If they had actually made a proper fighting game appealing to beginners, Sajam would have relentlessly shat on it (under the guise of being positive because he's one of those fake positivity faggots). I mean fuck, he actually played the original Project L when it was a very grounded and slow 1v1 game (you know, the sort of game that would be way more friendly to new players?) and strongly insinuated it was dogshit.
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>>539195575
>If they had actually made a proper fighting game appealing to beginners, Sajam would have relentlessly shat on it
sajam shilled guilty gear strive nonstop until a literal hacker started ddosing him every time he tried to stream it.
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>>539195717
Strive isn't a fighting game made to appeal to beginners. It's more or less the 1v1 version of 2xKO, with it's roundstart ToDs and every hit leading into 50-50 guess for game.
Rising is far more approachable as a beginner fighting game, and unsurprisingly Sajam barely streamed that and was as negative about the game as his faggoty fake positive attitude allows him to be.
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>>539195828
>go check to see how he's feeling in this vid
>his vods are sub-only
LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
dw he'll come back when swimsuit ahri futa mod drops

>>539195883
>Strive isn't a fighting game made to appeal to beginners
yeah i'm gonna need you to stop posting immediately
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i don't like mvc
i wanna play some neutral
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>>539195939
It's in the same boat as 2xKO. There certainly are concessions made in effort to attract new players, but at the same time they are trying to please veterans, leading to a discordant hodgepodge of confused ideas and mechanics. Wallbreak is a good example, they didn't want new players getting stuck in the corner for rest of the match, but then didn't want to rob veterans of their precious oki, so now you get post-wallbreak oki which is even more oppressive than traditional corner oki because positive bonus giving you infinite meter. You really think that when they were adding NRS tier zoning to the game they were thinking: "Man people new to the genre will definitely enjoy trying to dashblock these 2f gaps"?
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>>539196371
i think strive did a very good job being approachable by new players and its success confirms it, but at the end of the day it’s an anime fighter, a guilty gear game no less, and you can’t take the smell out of a turd
same concept for tagshit where you can call assists to be +30 on block and run your setplay
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>>539196964
>its success confirms it
Hard disagree there, I personally would attribute it's success to being the only new fighter with netplay during a worldwide pandemic. But we can only really speculate about these things, it's impossible to say for sure which quality attributed and how much to it's success.
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>>539196371
idk man
both games give new players access to "the cool shit" extremely easily (strive has short easy combos and giant damage, tuko has pulse combos that let even a total newbie kill in 3 touches max) and then the longer you stick around you might be interested in learning more and getting good, or you might not be
every fighting game player was once a total beginner that said "i think this is fun, i'm sticking around" you know
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>>539197217
it’s a combination of things, but strive really is an easy game to play at a basic level and only becomes absurdly degenerate later on, in that way it’s similar to tekken but exponentially worse
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The longer i play the game the less fun i have, that sucks
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>>539198316
need the battlepass dopamine
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>>539177273
why DID that come out as medium?
you pressed them both at the same time according to the input history
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>the semen mixers are the only ones carrying tuco
grim
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stu, why are you posting twitch viewcounts at 6 in the morning?
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>>539199892
Dunkey will forever be anti-Riot since they banned him.
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Why cant you fucking block Ekkos projectile when you fall down on it.
You can on any other projectile.
Can this nigger character stop being privilaged all the fucking time?
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>>539195828
this nigga plays shit like dnf duel and even he can't stand this game lmao
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this whole time i thought ryze was black
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>>539199431
fucked up input buffer is my guess
not pressing the dash frame perfect so the game says
>add L into the buffer
>add M into the buffer
>okay what did this fag do? I guess M is higher priority, send it
The weird thing is the air dash doesn't come out as a M. The game reads the LM air dash correctly even though I'm almost definitely not doing it with perfect timing. The forward forward ground dash works because the game can't really read the input as anything else, but this is a tag game and 66 dashes are fuckin gay in tag games so I don't wanna do them.
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I think thats it from playing the game, i was stupid to hope that a complete solo character will be able to keep up against 2 characters in a team fighter.
The game is really fun up to the point where you hit a semi competent player that realizes he can just abuse assist to bully you for free and you cannot do anything against it.
Its not about winning or losing, but just about having fun. There is nothing fun in blocking a blockstring for 10 seconds while possibly getting mixed up 3 times in that time.
Prime example of it is Vi with pretty much any assist. She can block string you into assist into overhead, the assist is active enough for her to go into slide that (for some unknown reason) not only gives her 200% mobility but also i frames anything, then she can do her command grab from slide and if she timed it badly or you somehow managed to jump she can swap to assist and keep you blocking while she recovers, then swap back and do for left right command grab mix again, which by that time her assist is on like 2 seconds cooldown left.
I am not 95% sure that the meta Fuse will be Freestyle or 2X Assist, with emphasis on Freestyle.
Beginners that this game get will not last for too long, unless there will be enough of a pool of beginner players that they can just mash against each other, but seeing as there is only 9 characters currently, and barely anything to do or customize i doubt even that.
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>>539199892
Tyler1 could save this game but he already struggles with SF6. How much more in a fucking tag game?
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>>539203478
go for*
I am now*
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>>539180826
Yeah, season 1-2 or dbfz was magical, especially as a fan of old school Dragonball before all the Goku clones became cringe. And the launch roster was so good too.
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>>539203446
use the dash macro button to avoid issue :)
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>>539188792
>>539196371
>>539203478
trvthnuke
the game is not accessible
riot missed the mark when they didn't account for the quasi-casual; the guy who has a couple of hours in fighting games but can't bother learning all the intricacies and quits because of that
and unfortunately this is most players. i honestly doubt league or valorant players would quit a game when facing a motion input, but surely they'd quit a game when seeing how long the combos are and how some are specifics to each duo and how degenerate the game is. it's so overwhelming

unironically old street fighter games do a better job at that. jive charlie nash had a 5 hits combo and you could focus on the game and get introduced to more things as you improved
so yeah they could've made a honest footsies game and they'd get rich
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I have never liked tag games at all, so I'm playing juggernaut Jinx and having the time of my fucking life, I havent had this much fun in a fighting game in a long time. People tell me jinx doesn't work without assist but I can't give less of a shit, block this overhead idiot
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dead game dead general dead company
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Fighting games are simply inherently inaccessible to the "wider audience", regardless of how much you simplify the mechanics and the execution you just get this https://youtu.be/sBxp3I9vKlU
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>>539205405
lol
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>>539205405
If that was a LoL game that nigga would be like "wtf my teammates are so useless" and que for another game. Instead he has no avenue to blame his lack of skill, thinks it's the game being bad and uninstalls. Grim.
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>>539205405
>"all this guy does is throw fireballs"
>gets swept three time in a row on wake up
>"all this guy does is sweep"
classic
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>realistic tods off L starters
they went too far in the other direction after the last beta huh
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>>539205063
Youll have a lot of fun when you match against better players that on reaction parry your overhead and keep you blocking for 20 seconds while mixing you up 6 times in that timespan.
Enjoy it while it lasts King.
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>>539207039
That already happens, I just throw it again, then it doesnt work so I throw it again
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>>539207039
why did you expect the solo mode to be viable in a team game?
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>>539207197
it's viable in skullgirls
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>>539207420
It definitely wasn't competitive, no one won anything of note with it.
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why are negroid hairstyles located above the normal hair hairstyles?
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>>539207804
Negroids are the intended target audience.
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Is this game going to be a 4k-5k fighter concurrent?
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>>539195883
>Strive isn't a fighting game made to appeal to beginners
???????????
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>>539195883
>Strive isn't a fighting game made to appeal to beginners
that is literally what it was made for, you fucking retard
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>>539208536
im glad this doesnt have a steamcharts so retards like you can fuck off
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Got a shit laptop so waiting for them to put this on consoles. :/
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>>539204274
NNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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the dead game shill fears the chartchad
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>>539205405
been a while since i seent this kino.
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>>539180826
the point is that being an autism tag fighter isn't a barrier of entry any taller than being a fighting game to a casual
doesn't really matter if they like or dislike the game, maybe the way every dbfz mechanic is a legit ability affects how much they're willing to learn them but that's neither here nor there
like dbfz has a universal crossup teleport button bruh, tag mechanics aren't stopping anyone from playing these games
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>>539210006
I chart the games just as my ancestors charted the lands.
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>>539209856
snt the game supposed to work on pretty much anything?
i bought my pc in 2017 i think and i can run it.
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vi's ass is so fat
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how do I call assist twice with 2x assist fuse? the second time I press I just handshake tag
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>>539207804
because this is a fighting game buddy, and a tag one at that
we have negroids, hard asians and trannies here
don't worry about it
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>>539212616
im all three
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>>539212443
in 2x assist, you have to do forward+T to do that assist again
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>>539211559
nigga you restarted
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Is the "Interrupted" mention a counter hit? I see it pops up when you block a reversal
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>>539216247
yes, but
>pops up when you block a reversal
do you literally mean the moment you block one?
which reversal?
i'm unaware of this
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>>539216805
the standaup reversal is -28 on block or something
when you block it and punish them they get interrupted. I thought you would see punish but I guess interrupt is there to give you a much bigger combo since it's counterhit
I'm nowhere the level to abuse this, I still have no idea how combos work in this game
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>>539216927
i don't even know of a move with ch-only properties that would change up your combo

long term, it's very likely just going to be doing a 5H starter into your standard combo
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>>539217242
I see
it changes damage tho, you deal more damage at least

in other games when you counterhit you get more frame advantage so you can do bigger damage, or moves have different properties
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Who are the free characters and who are the ones you need to buy?
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>>539217341
the locked characters are jinx, vi and blitz
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>>539205027
>riot missed the mark when they didn't account for the quasi-casual; the guy who has a couple of hours in fighting games but can't bother learning all the intricacies
As embarrassing as it is to admit, I'm that kind of player. That guy that gets high plat/low diamond rank and equivalent in games like SF6/T8/GBVSR/Strive without trying to learn anything besides the most basic bnb? That's me. I'm having a real hard time clicking with this game because I play mostly using my intuition and so far that is not working. I have a feeling using Juggernaut Darius for most of my time with the game isn't doing me any favors (weak pressure string and mixup with no assists, die quicker overall even with bonus health, gotta be extra careful with parries), so I'll try to use Ahri and other fuses this week and see how that works out.

I know there's some stuff I could be better at, like using retreating guard and push block a lot more often, but having to deal with a long ass string with 3 mixups, fail once and get stuck in a 15+ seconds combo gets old really fast. On another note, Juggernaut "eject" button really should do something else against a solo character and maybe the function to recover white health should be a whole other thing instead of that.

+1 for Qiyana btw
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theres a lot of bitches in here crying about a game that's less than a week old. They gave you everything you need in a universal parry, wake up rolls, burst, fury, push block, v shift, whatever that wake up option is when you hold RT. stop crying, have fun with the characters and learn the game or go back to whatever you where playing. Its only week 1, Its not that deep
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to the league players, what are likely to be the next few characters they add? are there any shoe-ins that aren't already in the game?
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>>539211559
She's got crazy hips compared to the other girls
Chick even has a thigh gap that shit is sexo
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>>539218858
Jhin, Caitlyn, Jayce and Viktor
Teemo already leaked
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>>539218836
And that's not a bad thing. I'm enjoying the game in it's current state, but people that are not should put their thoughts out there anyways, yeah? Maybe they'll change their tune later down the line or maybe I'll grow to dislike the game as I get better, but the only feedback we can give is what we experience rn

>>539218858
In no particular order: Teemo, Ashe, Lux, Ezreal, Katarina, Akali, Riven and Miss Fortune. Thresh, Draven, Lee Sin and Master Yi are usually pretty popular too among people into the game, but the others are overall more well-known for a reason or another.
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>>539220429
>More arcane
hell no they shouldn't add more from piltover and zaun for the next 4 years.
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>>539218836
I'm just in full doomer mode cause of the small roster desu and the fact that gameplay is okay but nothing amazing that warranted such a long development. I'm enjoying it so far but I don't see a bright future for it. I'd be happy to be proven wrong though.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mw6kyQdvTNE
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>>539221364
The only way to save this game is with a shit ton of updates regularly adding new champions and big tournaments.

Otherwise we are doomed to fail and if Riot expected this game to beat everything on the market then we are just on our way to become the next LoR, forever in maintenance mode and getting maybe a character a year.
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>>539218836
>a game that's less than a week old.
it really isn't less than a week old, we've known about it for over half a decade and when it only now gets a closed beta thats really lackluster considering all that time it makes sense people don't have high hopes for it, for fucks sake it only has 9 characters.
>>539221647
>The only way to save this game is with a shit ton of updates regularly adding new champions and big tournaments.
this, and just stuff to attract more players, they really should just drop the closed beta bullshit and just release it
>and if Riot expected this game to beat everything on the market
that was probably the original idea but considering how little they're doing to promote it they might not care.
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>>539222561
>that was probably the original idea but considering how little they're doing to promote it they might not care.
if they just wanted the advertisement of league characters in fgc tournaments then I guess they already won and can just coast.
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>>539221647
they definitely will add characters regularly if val and lol are any way to judge, the problem is if it’s 3-5 a year like them it’s not gonna cut it. that could be 3 or 4 years until the roster is in a sufficient state
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>>539221647
There is no way ever that this game will be saved as long as it's a tag trash.
Dbfz got a lot of players as a really simple tag fighter and with the insane dragon ball fans who buy any turd with dragon ball on it, this is way different, it's unsalvageable.
And I'm not just a doomer, I wished the game was good, but have to look at it as it really is...
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I can't into making .webms but I found a double level 1 combo for my characters (Yasuo Vi) and happy that it was somewhat intuitive
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>>539224504
>terminally online transwoman has to make everything about Mortal Kombat
water is wet and Ahri is hot
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>>539225105
its pretty easy to lab in this game ngl also found some shit on my own that i see higher level people do
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>>539223071
3-5 is bad, 6-11 is nice, 12 (one a month) would be hype.

If they think they can do 2 a year like pre dev then this game is cooked
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which char has the best rushdown and blockstring pressure?
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>>539225748
they'll have added 3 new characters this year including teemo, so hopefully it's reasonable to expect much more than that when the game's finished and they move more resources into content updates
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WHO THE FUCK DO I DM FOR THEM TO FIX THE MEMORY LEAK
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What are Jinx's BnBs bros, hep me out
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>>539221364
Qiyanabro how the fuck do you lane against someone that's ranged and not explode or give up your whole farm potential
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>>539226002
I dunno, it's still early for "the best" claims. Ekko and Yasuo are both really good tho
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>>539226849
generic melee vs ranged:

pregame, learn your level 3 all-in combo
your level 3 combo is stronger than their level 3 combo,
because they're a squishy mage or itemless adc,
while you're an ad assassin

ingame, your only two goals are:
1. stay healthy until level 3
2. poke them to bring them to that all-in threshold

then once you hit level 3, you control the lane
either they concede lane presence, or they hand you a free kill
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>>539226695
https://www.twitch.tv/sonicfox/clip/ReliableKathishWafflePlanking-XLrRYhsv6jJyG4cI
You walk back a little before the first bomb loop, I was watching leffen a little trying this out with backdash into the loops
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I can't believe this game actually feels good, there's a lot of cool and degenerate things you can do but there's also basic stuff available to play the game with.
It's a damn shame I suck at tag fighters.
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>>539223919
This. The tag mechanics appeal to a tiny group of people and make the game extremely unfun to play.
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>>539229591
that's cute
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>>539230836
then turn on the juggernaut fuse
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>>539230976
>hey just turn on the thing that massively gimps you at anything beyond shitter level
this game ain’t gonna make it lmao
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why couldn't they leave it as a 1v1 for fucks sake
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>>539231367
Because they let “FGC guys” make the game.
Letting people too immersed in competitive culture make anything is always a mistake because they can’t make a game that relates to anyone but the top 1%.
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>>539231367
I would wager that the co-op is the true reason why they went with a tag game, because they thought it could be something more than just a meme mode and actually get people to play the game.
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>>539218858
Kai'sa, Jhin, Sett, Yone, Akali, Riven, Samira and Cait are my guesses. Maybe Ezreal but I think there's just too many other zoners that need a spot
There's champs like Ashe and Lux and MF that are super popular but don't lend themselves to fighting games that well and also they added Braum and Illaoi so there isn't really a popularity rule.
I think they're gonna prioritize adding champs that are popular but also easy to draw lines from other fighting games.
But add Qiyana fuckers
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>>539231367
The thought process was probably something like
>We want the game to feel simple to get into, so we'll add 1 button specials and the works. Make characters relatively basic
>Oh but we want oldheads to actually play this so we can't have it be too baby-mode
>Oh we can just add tag mechanics, makes the game infinitely more complex while still leaving the individual characters simple, we'll even add juggernaut for people who don't want to opt into assists.
The problem is that ultimately, tag games are just super complex by default so there's not really a room for middle of the road people, you're only getting shitters with autocombo or people who do unblockable set-ups into a ToD, not much room for the people inbetween.
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>>539231647
>because they thought it could be something more than just a meme mode and actually get people to play the game.
>we need to let people blame their teammate for loosing
If that was the actual plan then they’re genuine retards
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>>539231751
They want unique fighting styles and mechanics. The roster is already limited as it is, characters feeling similar to each other would make it worse.
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>>539231367
>>539230573
>>539231817
>>539232001
>AIEIEEEIEIEIEIEIEIEIEIEI let me STRIKE AND THROW IEIEIEII I NEEEEED TO STRIKE AND THEN THROW ITS SO FUCKING COOL
>I LOOOVE throwing a FIREBALL and then ANTI AIRING and then throwing a FIREBALL SLUUUURP
cry about it 1v1 faggots
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>>539232063
>proves that only schizo mongoloids like tag games
Kekypow. Enjoy your dead game
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>>539232051
Yeah I think my guesses are all generally unique
Maybe Jhin and Cait would overlap but damn thats actually hard
Jhin gets blown by all the normalfags but Cait does have arcane and lesbo power.
Actually Cait prolly wins there
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>>539231817
>tag games are just super complex by default
I don't really buy this. You can have a tag game that has reasonable limitations on calling your assist and tagging and thus have it be slower and less volatile. That's more or less what ArcSys recent tag games are. Early Fighterz just blocking your opponent out until they tried to do a reactable throw was a legitimate strategy even at the highest level, and I would say Tookon is shaping up to be very similar, with many describing it feeling more like a traditional 1v1 game instead of tag kusoge.
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Why does Yasuo have such fucking disjointed hitboxes that he can miss you but still fucking hits you
Everyone is saying how hard he is but his execution is literally carried by huge disjointed hitboxes
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>>539231817
The thing is the characters don’t feel ultra basic anyway. The move lists aren’t tiny or anything.
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>>539229921
Get your duo to do them for you
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Who even cares what casuals think of the game
Are we casuals? No. So shut the fuck up and have fun
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>>539232183
you 1v1fags can barely remember to press DP against a jump in im flabbergasted you think you aren't the mongoloids
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>>539232675
Tag games are without a doubt extremely more skilled than 1v1s but 1v1s are more fun
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>>539232286
I predict Tokon will be hated by the FGC overall while having one of the largest active playerbases of any fighter.
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>half the game is designed around being able to play duos in a tag game
You guys all have friends to play duos with right?
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>>539231751
I will kneel if they add Qiyana. One factor that prevents me from enjoying the game more is that I don't care nor played any of the current and upcoming characters. My LoL'tism only allows me to play the ones I like/play in league. Still, It's around 40-50 characters I need so the chances shouldn't be that low.
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>>539232814
I do and its extremely fun
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>>539232063
I'm not saying it's bad, It's more difficult to get into, man. Fighting games already filter the hell out of most people and learning how to use assists is an extra layer.

>>539232286
That's a fair point, I'm probably biased because of all the tagfighters I've been filtered by because of how assists end up working in them, FighterZ was pretty simple.

>>539232493
All of the characters I've tried feel well designed without filler, simple stuff but not like, GBS simple, closer to DNF but with less of the insane things that game had.
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>>539232627
Thats how you get your game to become a discord fighter are you restarted?
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>>539233376
fun game with small playerbase > boring game with large playerbase
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>>539233464
Yeah except Riot is liable to kill development when the roster hasn’t even hit 20 characters yet if it’s not popular
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>>539232897
Vi and Jinx are fun enough for me to be on board

In league the only champ I can play is Qiqi but I played LoR for a while so I'm used to it. Had to get by playing Annie Swain for fun but that deck was actually sick so it was fine
Actually seeing those two in 2xko would be so cool
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>>539229947
>not even a week
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>>539233576
ok then buy the Ahri skin
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you just loaded into the game
the enemies first hero is Ekko
will he:
>jump into projectile
>dash back into projectile
>dash back into charged projectile bounce
>dash back into lvl 1 projectile to be + and in your face
>dash back into projectile into air dash into air hit to make it so even if you anti air him you get frozen in time and he gets a combo
?
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>>539233721
Dash back into charged projectile bounce.
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>>539233721
I'm not good enough yet to know if I should be angry at Ekko
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>>539233808
He's black.
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>>539231751
>>539232897
They are absolutely not adding Qiyana, she's cool and all but not that popular and doesn't have this weird niche of being "old" or "iconic" to be prioritized like say, Annie, Fiddle or Yi or something. I know we had Braum and Illaoi but Illaoi being a dev's favorite gave her a free spot.
We're getting Lee Sin soon
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weird that this game is up for free and riot is literally making no money on it at all yet, no mtx not even from tournaments or sponsorship cuts or anything
enjoy this uncynical state of the game while it lasts bros
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>>539234014
It's over...
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https://x.com/Ni_Perhaps_/status/1967312691892212041
New Jinx route if you have Blitz assist
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What do the heads in the middle of the match mean?
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I like Qiyana as much as the next guy but how the hell would you make her play here? Her entire gimmick is deeply rooted in the map aspect of LoL
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WE NEED HIM
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Duos actually kinda sucks.
So if you're playing with someone on your level that knows what they're doing it's fine, but Duos is gonna be terrible for the audience its intended for, people getting their friends in, or more realistically raging gamers and their discord kittens, his gf is gonna be so useless he will basically play with the tag controls on massive delay
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>>539234454
what the fuck is wrong with that input history
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diaphone dropped blitz for illaoi..
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>>539235737
Her elemental stuff could just be different skills, light installs or a stance thing. Of course they'll add fluff for her, like Jinx pulling a huge hammer from her ass. Most champs can work with enough creativity.
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>>539235737
Just have her be an elementalist like her lore states + her loop blade
There's enough to her to make a fighter, you can make her have different elemental states that modify her abilities or something, like Sandalphon in GBVS
A lot of champions have potential for cool movesets and they don't necessarily need to adhere to the limitations of a League kit
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>>539236536
That's just league of legends
People tank playing botlane with their bronzetard lux egf all the time
If it gets that bad just put them on sidekick like it's yuumi
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>>539235737
She has a lot of potential
In lol her magic over water and grass and rocks is barely conveyed outside of her ultimate turning them to hitboxes but in a FG you can give her earthbending, ice shards, vine whips.
Her specials can be stance changes like Yasuo and vi to get access to either zoning, mixups or setplay.
And I think the hula hoop and multi dashes she has lend themselves well to a character who can always go in off of landing something in midrange

Of course she isn't getting in though this is all dreamland
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>>539236574
issa beta test
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PLEASE RIOT FIX THE MEMORY LEAK !!!!!!!!!!
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>>539238080
they're about to go down again for maintenance, it might get fixed then
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>beta out for a few days
>general this slow
it's over isn't it?
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>>539239297
is ekkos lvl 1 bullshit? same answer
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>>539236536
It's actually even better than league for duoing with your kitten, because you can sidekick them and play half of the mechanics in the game for them, it's why there's so many mechanics that's tied to your assist
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>>539241859
tfw no duo kitten to carry in 2xkami
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>>539195883
>Strive isn't a fighting game made to appeal to beginners.
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Idk what bro was smoking to say that lmao
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i mean strive is way less appealing to beginners than like, dix and mashen. but it's easily the scrubbiest airdasher out rn
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https://youtu.be/t9BwHGFXaYs

even kusoge enthusiast clayton hates it
it's so fucking over
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I'll come back to this game when they unbench the kench
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>>539243979
That guy seems mentally ill
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>>539195883
>Strive isn't a fighting game made to appeal to beginners.
lol
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>>539217312
yeah havent tested CH confirms yet if they change at all. usually doesn't matter too much in tag/versus style games tho
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>>539243979
>what were they doing for 10 years
laughing my god damn ass off after reading that
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>>539244863
has it rly been 10 years?
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>>539245072
no, people say 10 years because thats when they got the rising thunder devs
project L was officially revealed in 2019 with valorant as project A
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>>539245154
>>539245072
they talked about starting the concept and shit for the game in 2016, i dont care if they went twice back on themselves by swapping how the game will be
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>>539243979
>i didn't know how much longer i'd be alive when blazblue came out
what?
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>>539245154
so more like 6-7 years which is average in modern times (based old devs cranking out generational vidya in 1-2 years)
and the game is good so far. building the foundation should be the hardest part and releasing further content post-release should be easier to do at a faster pace. but if they fail to do that i'll start clowning them too
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>>539245348
The problem with Riot is that until the game concept is greenlighted they are pretty much on an infinite R&D loop. There have been so many projects at riot that never see the light of the the day because the company is like that.

People on /fgg/ that have never worked for a big gaming studio think R&D are just ideas guys dumping random shit on a google spreadsheet for a month then go on full development.
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What even happened to the Nunu adventure game
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>>539246095
it released and then it flopped. Riot gave up on giving away their IP to indie studios and I think they are working on making their own single player game studio now if rumors are true.
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>>539231647
you think it's the co-op and not that their entire dev team is made of mvc3 players with the exception of 1 guy who is instead a tekken tag player?
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>>539245806
nobody forced them to do it like that, if their higher ups are retarded then why should i care if the game dies, should have made it better from the start and get a direction
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When are they putting in the rapist
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>Do rekka for 50% of their health
>Pop super to lock them out of their assists and bursts and also put up a wall behind them
It's his time.
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>>539244264
they do apparently, I played the tutorial and shows you an example with darius
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>>539211559
Vi has a nice waist/hip to thigh ratio but no, that ass isn't anything to write home about
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>>539244264
>>539247351
CH didn't actually do anything in the alphas but were added this release, it's in the patch notes. It generally means that if you CH with a M button you can charge the 5H instead of going into the normal version
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>>539246395
They were originally making a slow, grounded 1v1. Something caused them to change into 2v2 tag kuso. I guess you can argue that they were always just scammers seeking to leech off Riotbucks for as long they could and that the 1v1 game was them stalling, but I think the co-op idea causing them to pivot seems more likely.
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>>539247598
woah, that's pretty good to know, thank you
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>>539247641
Whatever the reason was, I'm sure it wasn't a decision made purely for fun. There was definitely a business incentive in the change.
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End of the day they bet on a market that is not there, its funny they probably would have made a lot of waves if they had done a direct competitor to street fighter with simple controls.

The game is fun but I just hope they just allow it to be a money sink and not just place it on maintenance mode right away.
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Are you guys retarded
It was obviously the 2 player v 2 player mode.
Thats why they pivoted theres no conspiracy theory here, no boogeymen or schizo delusions.

If you even played it once you'd realize its actually sick af and they spent a ton of time on it
You guys just dont have friends so I guess you mustve just forgot
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>>539245359
he has some weird autoimmune condition
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do you mash backdash or downback backdash spam
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>>539248596
you don't need a lot of staff to keep a fighting game running, otherwise french bread games wouldn't be as good as they are with like 12 niggas
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>>539248596
I don't think anyone would agree in thinking that directly competing with street fighter would be a good idea. When Project L was announced, SF6 wasn't even announced yet. Constantly being compared SF6 in gameplay and production value seems like a bad time.
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>>539248596
KILL YOURSELF STREET FAGGOT >>539232063
NOBODY WANTS TO PLAY YOUR SHIT GAME
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I started playing Fighting Games because of Project L.
I was there, you know. 2018, Riot's tenth year anniversary. They showed a small glimpse into the game and I was hooked. League games had become too long, too exhausting. Losing become someone in your team is playing badly or winning while being carried didn't feel fun. I've played a lot of competitive team games and as a toplaner I wantted something different, I wanted the real 1v1 experience.
I played many different games, all of them were horribly flawed one way or another, and many of those ways were something you could expect Riot to do different.
Then they announced that the sneak peek they teased was what they call a 'vertical showcase' (or something along those lines), ie, it was pretty much a lie, the game was nowhere near what they showed, it was more like a concept. So they revealed the true 2XKO, a tag game developed by people who like MVC3.
I tried to cope but that was not what I signed up for, from how the game looked to how the game played.
And now we are here. The game is released...
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>>539249419
>I LOOOVE walking at someone and then THROWING them and then walking at them and then THROWING them and then walking at them and then THROWING them SLOOOORRPPRPRPPRPR YESS MORE THROWSLOP PLEEEASSE
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>>539249650
you can keep spamming, you're not going to manage to turn this into a meme, you just look retarded
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I think that everyone in this cinematic is going to be in the game, half of them are already in.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TFzkbos0oeo
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>>539249419
Too real...
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>>539249742
you can go back into the cuck corner any time buddy
ik you miss being throw looped BAD
shaking and shivering that you cant be throw looped right now quaking and quivering that you arent waking up into a throw
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yo dat throw was GAWDLIKE.... nah what he gon do next? STRIKE? OOOOOOOHHHHHH HE STRUCK OOOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHH!!!! slime? throw loops? nah das reads doe, das GAWDLIKE
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utterly mindbroken by 1v1 GODS with not dying games
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>>539248823
There isn't even a way to play 2v2 in the game, you get thrown into 2v1 games where the single guy obviously has a huge advantage. If it's supposed to be their great selling point, they sure aren't doing any favors to it.
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They should top Tokon by doing a real 4 assist 1 point character fuse and also honor LoL's 5v5
Of course, also offer an option for those assists to be played by other real people too
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>>539218858
popular characters by role
top: irelia, fiora, gwen, mordekaiser, sett, riven, Jax, renekton, camille
jungle: lee sin, viego, kayn, khazix, warwick, jarvan, rengar, kindred
mid: yone, sylas, syndra, lux, vex, zed, akali, orianna, leblanc, fizz, twisted fate, ryze, aurora, zoe... honestly a shit ton more lol
adc: kaisa, mf, ez, jhin, vayne, lucian, tristana, samira, xayah, kalista, caitlyn
support: niggers
>oh but that's too many characters
welcome to league
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I wonder if duos will be a different queue altogether and if you'll have a hub of sorts for finding duo partners
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>>539220650
If people had genuine criticism about the game's system, then that's fine. But the bitches in these threads are literally crying about stuff that they clearly haven't looked at to try and play against effectively. I listed all of those mechanics, how many people are actively thinking to themselves "hmm this character seems like they're weak to parry maybe when I see them I should tell myself to look to parry certain things" or "this character has oppressive blockstrings, maybe midscreen I should retreating guard more?". Like I said the game is a week old and it has drastically changed over the betas. Play the game and give real criticism not "NOOOOO ITS TAGSLOP THATS OVERPOWERED"

>>539221364
>>539222561
Small roster does suck and that's a genuine critique, there should have been more characters released, considering the dev time
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>>539250223
? Ok so you have never played it gotcha
You can still fuck in 2v1s unless you're astrogapped it's perfectly playable even with 0 lab time as long as you pay attention to the screen and know what assists OTG
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>>539250319
anybody in here actually got to try tokon? which game is more fun?
i had no real interest in either of them but i'm hooked on 2X now
still willing to try tokon
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>league fighting game
>don't add any of the guys who punch like sett or lee sin
thank you retardo brothers
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>>539250487
Man I would love Gwen/Vex
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>>539250645
>which game is more fun?
no idea, I didn't have a ps5 for tokon's beta

tokon is way more simple but has 4 characters instead of 2 so can be chaotic too
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>>539250660
ur vi bro?
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>>539250769
she's not a guy dipshit
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>>539250645
No, but the general consensus right now from those that did is that it's more style over substance compared to 2xko. People expect it to change, though.
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>>539250660
BUT LE ARCANEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
I swear to god that series is going to kill Riot games
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>>539250816
yes he is
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>>539250816
could have fooled me
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It's so funny watching Diaphone mald when he isn't raping some newfag, all these pro players look so happy playing fighting games until they fight someone on their level
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>>539250957
if you don't get pissed playing fighting games you either don't have a soul or you've never gotten good enough at any of them to develop an ego
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>>539162348
Small roster but it's peak. Those who don't like it have never played a tag game or an anime game.
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>>539250957
>It's so funny watching Diaphone mald when he isn't raping some newfag,
this game is the first time ive seen diaphone malding actually
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I'm gonna start playing LoL on the side while waiting for more content here bros, what are some fun and interesting characters that are not droolingly easy but also not super hard for a shitter to pick up
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>>539251171
>quitting his good remote job for meme fighting games
he's crazy
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>>539251209
if you will play lol don't play summoner's rift and play arena or tft instead
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>>539251209
Darius
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>>539250597
People generally want an even fight when playing competitive games. Handicapping yourself by having your friend control the left side of the controller while you control the right has always been an option for all fighters, but it isn't particularly fun because the person you are fighting won't be similarly handicapped. Not having complete control over your characters and having to communicate with an another person for pressure and combo extensions is an obvious handicap, it's absurd that there isn't a mode that matches people playing with a handicap together.
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playing Ahri Ekko so far but slowly starting to consider swapping Ahri with someone else, maybe Jinx or Yasuo
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>>539188792
Found the streetshitter playerl
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>>539207804
>20 million years of it being the opposite
>one time it's different
>"grrr raghhh uhnnng"
Being a rightoid is a mental illness
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>>539251441
Dude
Its fun man

Just get one of your friends and try it instead of trying to preach intellectualisms at me about something you've no experience in doing
Games are for fun and this is the most fun I've had with friends in fighting games before
We can actually play together without just running the same set against each other
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holy shit diaper playing 2xko is moaning like a bitch in heat
is this the power of UNCOCKABLE and C0CKWORK?
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Better than Tokon?
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>>539250957
Should be watching GOD7 instead
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>>539251894
it's fun but not on a competitive sense
it's fun because it's dumb thoughtless mashing but at this point just start Smash and play that with friends without dealing with the 593485 mechanics of 2 touch games
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>>539252018
Tokon is slow with basically no mix and shit combos.
Tokon also has several mechanics tied to that green meter which is retarded.
So yes better than Tokon
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>>539252267
>Tokon is slow with basically no mix
once again, this is a positive for 99.9% of the worldwide population
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>>539251894
Anything is fun if you do it with your friends, I would rather play something actually properly designed for fun multiplayer co-op instead of this though.
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>>539252346
Only for 016er shitters kill yourself capcuck.
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>>539251328
>You can actually unlock him by doing the tutorial
Nice
>>539251289
I want to try the actual game bro
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>>539252346
It's good for getting people's money and not caring if they stick around, I guess.
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>>539252112
Are you autistic man
fun is fun
>>539252425
What other fighting game do I play with my friends if we run SF or gg or gbvs all we do is ram our main characters into each other for like half an hour and then want to go play something else
Sure we can go run mtg or league but we've been doing that for years. You really don't think something novel has any worth
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>>539252267
>Tokon also has several mechanics tied to that green meter which is retarded.
>Mechanics tied to a resource is bad because...?
List 3 fighters that don't have a mechanic tied to a resource.
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>>539252434
The only thing killing itself here is 2xko
>>539252512
Well if you're a godlike player 2xko is obviously better for you
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My problem with this game vs tokon is that I don't know if it will go EoS but at least I can be confident that tokon will be supported for at least 2-3 years and most likely it will be there for 5
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>>539252346
>SLUUUUURRRRRPPPPP
>MORE STRIVE SLOP FOR ME???
>SLUURURURURURURURPRRPP
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>>539252587
>What other fighting game do I play with my friends if we run SF or gg or gbvs all we do is ram our main characters into each other for like half an hour and then want to go play something else
Smash, obviously. It has both 2v2 and 1v1v1 and 1v1v1v1. You could even do 1v2 in it but no-one would because that is obviously retarded, which neatly brings us back to the original point: not having a mode that is only 2v2 is retarded.
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>>539252842
Yea Im booting up my switch to play on nintendo's scam subscription online that I dont own and none of my friends own thanks man ur a genius
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>>539252597
Name me a tag game that shares its assist meter with like 4-5 other mechanics
Nice try though.
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>>539252749
>Strive
>No mix
In what reality do you live in, because it sounds really nice over there.
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>>539252938
If that's your issue then just play Brawlhalla on PC, it has 500x the population of all tag games put together
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>>539252749
>>539252346
Strive and Bbtag players really out here saying mmm yes I love turning my franchise into babbys first videogame.
The audacity.
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>>539252967
>Every tag game should play the same!
Retarded or just baiting?
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>>539253072
Oh you're a brawlhalla player
That explains a lot about your posts thanks
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>>539252938
Ever heard of an emulator?
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>>539253146
>Le quirky and strange decisions are good because it's different!
Neanderthal or troglodyte?
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>>539253285
?????????????? kek
I dont play either smash or brawlhalla but I know they exist and they're better party games than this game
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>>539253490
>>539253072
what a retarded thing to say
It's like someone told you they play counterstrike with their friends and you said
>lol why arent you just playing fortnite its got so many more players so its a better shooter game
This is really the brain of an autistic numberfag I guess
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they add Zed, Akali and Syndra
DBFZ 2 gets announced in April
tag fightan is saved
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>>539254341
>dbfz 2

Even if it happens they will ruin it.
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>your duo is autistically complaining about balance and going against single players
> They're the weak link on your team making up reasons why you guys lost
Your reaction?
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NOTHING COMBOS INTO SUPER WHY DOES NOTHING COMBO INTO SUPER
NOTHING COMBOS INTO SUPER WHY DOES NOTHING COMBO INTO SUPER
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Anyone else noticed matching often with the same people you matched before? The playstyle, colors or names being the same?
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>>539257026
there's some kind of MMR tied to winstreaks, maybe you're just winning a lot and being matched with others that win equally as much
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>>539257026
im tired of seeing the same matchups every day
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>>539247641
The reason is simple and known.
Seth Killian worked on the game initially and then left, then they brought in the mvc3 fans to replace him.
The reason why rising thunder existed is because of seth killian, he also worked on sf4.
After he left the Cannons just brought in the retards.
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>>539257384
He left due to creative differences, maybe he actually really believed in the first version of the game and was mad the execs wanted something different?
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>>539257365
there are 9 fucking characters in a tag game what do you expect
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>>539250957
do you have a link?
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>>539257365
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>>539257809
https://www.twitch.tv/diaphone_
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>>539257746
or maybe the cannons brought in all their nepo friends and he couldn't take working alongside these retards anymore.
now look at their result.
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Rate my Qiyanvatar
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>>539258291
is that sonicfox the gay black furry who he's fighting?
2 frauds in 1 stream?
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excited for ranked in 3 days but i need to lab more
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>>539258537
no idea i dont followe the obnoxious nigger
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imagine the mating presses
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illaoi is legitimately the least appealing character I've ever seen in a fighting game
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>>539259501
I think her gimmick and potential are there desu but all people do with her is just low/overhead mixup
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>>539259671
I'm talking about the character not her function
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>>539259501
You're simply scared of darker skinned women
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>>539259789
Eh, i think most games with the generic woman/man or anime games with the same character times 100 but different hair are worse, at least her lore is pretty cool
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partner suggestion for vi? Thinking about ahri because her assist crosses up enabling so nasty cross ups with Freestyle. But then again getting a huge block stun assist might be enough as VI can just Command Cross you up.
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>>539260909
I'm playing Yasuo Vi, I like it, can combo Yasuo lvl 1 into Vi lvl 1 with the right timing/height and windwall assist helps against Jinx/Ahri (though I've only run into very few Jinx players yet)
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>>539229591
>open any soncfox clip
>hes giggling nonstop about something that isnt funny
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>>539260909
Im playing Vi Ahri and the team doesn't have that much synergy in terms of combo-ability but Ahri gives really oppressive blockstring sequences for Vi, especially with her dash through cross up with the freestyle fuse. The only problem is that with the only mode being casual and nobody really knowing what they're doing everyone just constantly mashes so I dont really get to run the blockstring mix ups with multiple left right high lows. Really good team for when people get better and I can lock down characters or force them to use resources early, but not so good right now because nobody knows what they're doing.

They both also allow you to combo into super from throws with their assists so the strike throw is really scary with them
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This is the first fighting game I've played where I don't know who to main simply because there are not enough options, like Ahri is nice, but other than her I just don't feel like playing anyone else, maybe I should just run juggernaut until they release someone better.

Hope Teemo is fun.
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>>539259501
Illaoi is fine? Darius is right there and so fucking boring I fall asleep looking at him.
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>>539261906
I hope at least one of my niggas Gangplank or Sylas makes it in before they shut this down
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>>539259501
Funny thing is this is a major step up from her other variations
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>>539262548
my husband is the coolest character in the roster thoughbeit
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>>539260286
I'm not afraid of darker skinned women, in fact I LOVE darker skinned women.
I am justifiably afraid of darker skinned men, which Illaoi is.
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>>539257365
this is every fighting game
if you go hop on sf6 you'll fight ryu, ken, akuma, luke, ratshit and mai in 80% of your matches
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>>539264118
League devs just need to keep adding attractive females that appeal to different tastes and they'll see some play
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>>539259501
illaoi wasn' a look in League but she is so much worse in 2XKO, the game is just butt ugly
At least she had tits in League
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>both the characters i wanted to use are locked
How long does it take to unlock if I don't spend?
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>>539264515
Do the tutorial, you get two unlock tokens
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do you seriously have any expectation for non-uggo characters in this game
do you know how pozzed riot is
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>>539264868
as long as they don't try to push ambessa on us it'll be fine
and im pretty sure they understand that theres 500 more popular chars than her
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>>539264868
aren't they owned by the chinks?
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>>539264868
god i hate faggotry so much its unreal
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>>539264279
So many options...
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>>539264868
i wonder what happened with riot
season 1-5 was so sovl
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>>539265302
jinx is smoking hot fag
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>>539259501
1. her design and gimmick are pretty immediately intriguing
2. you have not played enough fighting games
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>>539250957
yes everyone loves tagslop until they have to block
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>>539177640
the lesbians love ahri, jinx and especially Vi. They don't play fighting games though.
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>>539265626
are we gonna have the melty drip argument every year
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>>539265302
Wonder which version of Nidalee they'll use
Akali and Katarina are no brainers and afaik were in some of the earlier builds
Lux, MF, Kai'sa, Riven are also extremely likely due to popularity
I'd say Xayah too, but I don't want her faggot sidekick taking a spot any time soon
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>>539264868
Posting official riot model rn
They can cook when they do
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>>539265302
>vi: D
>jinx: eww
maybe your gay have you ever thought of that
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>>539265302
Senna is so fine though...
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>>539265302
These lists will always be misleading due to it's own nature.
Fiora is ugly as hell on her default skin, but she's pretty on others, especially the floating sword one
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>>539265434
>>539266675
you can go fuck a gas station crackhead for 20 bucks if you want
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>>539265302
Ok Qiyanabro Im gonna need you to bring up Briar, Rell, Tali and Jinx to S tier
Good taste otherwise but shame on you for sleeping on those bombshell babes
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>>539266640
>posting an exception that proves the rule
i know you are a retarded platinum black but come on now
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>>539266848
at least the meth keeps them fit.
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>>539266992
The nuclear bomb level hottness of Qiyana brings up the mediocrity of the rest of the roster all by herself
Therefore the sexiness mean of league of legends is quite good
Simple as, Q.E.D.
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>>539266907
taliyah is the ugliest bitch on the roster
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>>539266907
this looks like tumblr tranny art
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>>539267475
correct
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>>539265302
>Briar
>D
Biggest indicator of shit taste
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I feel like this game would get barely any complaints if it just got a bigger and better roster
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>>539258473
would erp with
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Darius buttons go full screen what the fuck do they expect me to do against that shit
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>>539268909
just like Darius in LoL back in the days! so fun!

I fucking hate chip damage here too, it makes sense in slower games but here you can explode from it
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>>539268791
the roster is a valid complaint though, the big selling point for non-fighting game fans was for this to be "the league fighting game" and even if they get a decent amount of coverage with some of the most popular characters like Ahri, Yasuo, Jinx, there's still like 130+ champs not included and all of them have people that main them and would probably give the game a try if "their" champ looked cool to play in 2xko
Also from getting to play the game for the first time now one of my biggest complaints would be samey matchups
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>>539268791
there is no world where this game is a tag fighter and it doesnt die, even if it ships with 40 characters this game is made for about a thousand people and comes with a limited shelf life out of the box
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I honestly don't understand how to play this game. It seems I always, always am whiffing buttons and fucking up anti-airs constantly. Never had this happen to me before in any fighting game to this degree and it's driving me nuts. If it helps, I'm using Darius mos of the time.
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>>539269439
I have the opposite experience, always feeling like I whiff my jump in air attack, especially against Darius doing his antiair, like it feels bullshit how he's still standing up but his hitbox seems to vanish as soon as they press their 2H
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>>539269753
2h is a universal anti-air that works similarly to how 6p works in strive (as in, no matter how late they press it, if you're in the air your jump in will lose to it)
some characters their 2h will eat shit to crossups but yasuo's even beats that lol
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>>539268909
use parry

>>539268986
darius puts bleed status on you which increases the chip you take, it really is insane in some situations
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>>539269901
>similarly to how 6p works in strive
No, 6P is very effective but it's actually a heavy hitbox reduction.
2H's in this game just straight up ignore anything airborne which makes them even more reliable and easier to use like Blazblue anti airs instead
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>>539270736
Can someone post that one JJK double beatdown webm
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>>539270736
lmao what the fuck
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>>539270736
how is yasuo stuck spamming lights? kek
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You know who we actually need? Her. She might not be THE sexiest, but she is still mai waifu for being the biggest fucking tard enabler in the whole game since her release.
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>tag fags trying to convince people that actually rock paper scissors into 30 second combo is good gameplay
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>>539270736
>blacks and asians finally put their differences aside and beat up a lesbian instead
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>>539271181
Isn't Yasuo's whole gimmick he's not actually asian but a massive weeb instead
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>>539271369
nah he's from Ionia (the weeb nation), just voiced by a white guy (and somehow hasn't been replaced unlike Ahri's VA)
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>>539271024
when you tag out, you can still control the tagged out character
the most legitimate use of this is to do things like continuing a rekka, or a held move

eg,
yasuo, S1 > T > S1 > S1, and you have a lockdown assist
blitzcrank, j[S2] > T, and keep holding down S2, and now you have a wrecking ball assist that controls the air for 3 seconds

yasuo's 5L happens to be two different attacks, so it can be chained over and over
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>>539271683
In this game, he's voiced by an asian guy
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>>539271781
thank you for explaining. does that basically mean, for example, in your blitzcrank's example, that you are unable to use the point character's S2 until you let go of blitzcrank's?
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>>539270736
YEARS OF DEVELOPMENT
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>>539270736
lmao this game is trash
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>>539271968
He's voiced by the gay as fuck white Critical Role guy
Blitz's normal VA is also replaced by a CR member btw
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>>539271968
The guy does a damn good Liam O'brien impression then, could have sworn it was still him
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>>539271984
if you were playing solo, yep

and if you were doing an S1 rekka on the tagged out character,
your new point character has to either make use of S1 in their actions,
or somehow avoid their S1 coming out through specific routing
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>>539272159
>>539272114
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ApeTQ4QWC4
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Why would you inflict the Eng dub on yourself when the Korean is so good?
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>>539272224
https://x.com/Play2XKO/status/1957850268881559664
I heard he got coached by him, but I don't know if that's true or not
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>>539270736
Ahri tag teamed when?
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>>539272370
I didn't grow up with korean media so it just sounds goofy to me.
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>>539272370
i don't like kr yasuo, so i use jp
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>>539272370
eng is darius' best version unfortunately
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>>539272384
>>539272197
What the fuck, I was sure it was Liam O'brien
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>>539272370
If I would even consider selecting a language I don't understand I'd pick Japanese
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>>539272370
I need someone to make a VA compilation so I can decide which one to use like they have for lol
https://youtu.be/uivW8io5HaM?si=ESyzlnr76VMkIbeg
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>>539272507
How can you stand playing Darius in today's hyper mobile and auto sustaining meta bro
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>>539273187
hes my husbando and i love him terribly terribly terribly. but also im glad 2xko is out so i dont have to do that shit anymore lol
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>>539269753
Guess I'm just shit at the game then, because I'm having no fun and it feels everything I do is incorrect.
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>>539273708
a lot of it is just getting a better handle on your ranges, which comes with playing the game. and definitely don't bother much with your L buttons, press m and h more. they reach further than you'd expect
also, who's your assist? assists are pretty vital in controlling space on the screen, so make sure you're calling it
as for anti-airing, that's just something you've gotta practice. it's worth going for them even if you think you're going to be late, as long as they're in the air and you press 2h you're pretty safe as long as you're not way too early
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they're saying that after closed beta ends you'll have to pay 25 cents per round of 2xko in order to replicate the good ol days of playing in an arcade
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>>539275893
can I pay 400 dollars for an ahri cosplayer
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>>539275960
Option only available if you're a pro, streamer or an ugly bastard
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>been waiting for the game forever
>finally comes out
>see what people are saying
>its stunlock TDO city
guess i'll keep waiting for a good fighting game
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is ahri hard to play? I've seen some insane combos with her.
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This was a complete and total checkmate. NICE GAME
Reduce this cunts armor and super hitbox what the fuck is that nonsense
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>>539276752
you only need to learn how far away you can actually confirm into your S2 and when you should just take the s1
unless you run blitz and you can just do anything into s1~s1 blitz assist.
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>"hmmm we should make a fighting game"
>look around
>every high performing fighter is a 1v1
>"lets make it a 2v2 tag fighter"
it was so easy to not fumble it but they did anyway because they are fucking retarded and hired fags from twitter that have dogshit opinions
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>>539276794
you had meter for parry but i dont blame you for not doing it, there's so much shit going on in this game and so many systems that it's easy to forget. still that's what makes tuko interesting to me, feels like there's always something i can improve on
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>>539277659
>parry
>push guard assist
>retreating guard
bwo...
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>>539277593
Name one bad thing you personally have experienced in the game
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>>539269224
but enough about dbfz
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Where does 2XK0 fall on this?
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>>539277593
exactly bruh tekken tag tournament has no chance
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>>539277968
i dislike that i need to go through two health bars
i dislike that i am being juggled for 50 hits straight due to double chungus assist deluxe
i dislike that the pool feels too small due it being a tag fighter (you will almost always see one of the same champions from the last game)
i dislike that they then realized their mistake and tried to release a juggernaut / support trait even though it was putting a bandage over a stab wound
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>>539278173
>i dislike that i need to go through two health bars
Pussy.
>i dislike that i am being juggled for 50 hits straight due to double chungus assist deluxe
They made the combos shorter. Go play rising thunder.
>i dislike that the pool feels too small due it being a tag fighter
They spent years making a whole different game before getting to what we're at right now but yes the roster is small
>i dislike that they then realized their mistake and tried to release a juggernaut / support trait even though it was putting a bandage over a stab wound
Literally not a mistake, tag was based and intended. Shitter.
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>>539277968
dont engage the /fgg/ shitposters lol
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>>539278385
faggots like this make me very happy the game will die fast
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is there a single general on here except like, the ffxiv one where everyone isn't just shitting on the game of choice and calling it a flop
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>>539278671
it's just granpoo sniffers and cotw amigos taking their frustration out on others
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>>539278885
no its not its literally just random shitposters in their youth
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>Keep doing super instead of stance with Yas
This blows, I actually need to clean up my execution now.
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>>539280182
>keep pressing the wrong fucking h button on darius because he has FOUR different inputs on h that all do completely different things
i know that feel bro
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>>539280348
Oh hey that's also me since I'm trying Darius Yasuo.
Atleast both have a sweep on 3H
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>>539278146
Between 5 seconds and sf6
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>>539280658
ive been meaning to pick yasuo back up instead of blitz for my secondary because wind wall assist lets darius deal with projectile spam so much better, but blitz is so insanely mindless that i haven't bothered lol
literally doing more damage than darius, meterless and on accident. char's fucked up
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>>539281021
Blitz is supremely fucked up, letting the hook work on block is some devilish work.
Peak kusoge character that I kind of want to pick up after I get used to assist timings.
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>>539281107
i can't say for sure what their balance philosophy will be like but i find it hard to imagine they'll let him keep doing the damage he does. i literally haven't even bothered learning any setups for his command grab, any real pressure sequences, haven't even bothered with grinding kara, he just fucks you up for free lmao
i could see them lowering his strike/combo damage just to make it more worth setting all that shit up but as he is now it's just durrr
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>>539280348
>>539280658
I keep getting 4H when trying to parry occasionally
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>>539282802
REMINDER: do not play ranked until it's been out for a day or two and people have settled to their ranks. you don't want to get fucked up by diaphone and sonicfox and then have to grind back up out of the kiddie pool
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>>539283159
Happened to me with Strive
I got placed in Plat and had to win like 400 matches with like a 70%+ winrate to get to my actual rank because it didn't have any fucking win streak bonuses for plat+
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>>539283272
shit is ridiculous in that game specifically lol
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>>539283159
that is gay bro you'll get elo quick if you're on a winstreak anyways
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>>539277968
I played against a Vi
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>>539278146
this has to be a false flag to make sf fans look retarded
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for me it's blirzcrank juggernaut
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>>539244104
Clayton is based.

>>539245359
https://youtu.be/TRCcgCJtcGE
Clayton is based af, man looked death in the eye and somehow came out a chad. People only hate on him because he's a real inspiration desu.
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>>539280348
My brain still sometimes crosses the wires on 6H vs 6S2 because they feel similar
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ive still not had even one match that felt noticeably laggy
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>>539284974
i also keep fucking up 2s2 and 3s2, to the point that i don't even try using my dp anymore
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>>539283159
its just a beta
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Does Ekko really need an easy set up 6 way mix up and a lvl 3 that is both easy to combo into and also a counter and also one of the best projectiles outside of the dedicated zone character?
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>>539285463
at least the oki nerfs tricked people into thinking he's not good anymore
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>>539284837
damn wtf
does he get pussy? he looks like a greek god
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>>539280182
i hope people have been bitching
having 5 frames of leniency on the 'simultaneous' press is insane
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>having a good time playing a set, games are pretty close
>other player alt f4s during the super that would've killed him
i*nians am i right
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Duo tourney coming up soon
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Here's some details about wakeup options
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>>539290919
>EU
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anyone got any jinx combos
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I played into my first E-couple when I was duoing earlier.
They didnt even go sidekick fuse the pink-ponytailed girl avatar ahri player was stuck in the back on juggernaut as the african american avatar Vi ran over us.
Fucked up stuff I think he was smurfing in a lower lobby guy was p cracked.
Would give him props but his username was something like "JaxTopGod#jg L" so I don't respect him
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just played with someone with 10 ping...
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>>539291168
>getup attack is a f0 dp so you can't safejump
yo wtf
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>>539291626
kind of funny that for all the degenerate bullshit the game has, no safejumps allowed
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>>539291591
I am in your walls anon
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>>539290919
Let us know when its on, been wanting to see more 2v2 content.
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Anybody needs a code? I have no friends, so happy to share it.
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>>539197245
I just started playing strive and uhhh it's not very beginner friendly. Or maybe it is cause I got placed in 6600. Which i am stuck at now cause everyone is a fucking god in silver elo. there are a lot of gay and faggy characters so maybe that's what you troons mean by beginner friendly. Cause there sure are a lot of faggy retards in that game.
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You CAN do the optimal yasuo combo right guys
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>>539292250
beginner friendly means it's easy enough to learn how to control your character and do his cool shit. the thing is you're jumping into a game that's in its 4th year, so you're bound to have some difficult games, but it's still better than trying to jump into xrd or +r lol
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>>539292318
>no partial charge H
Probably can
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Jinx is so fucking fun bros
wtf
how did they do it
i still think the hammer is dumb though
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>>539292318
I thought this was for casual league of legends players playing a fighting game for the first time??
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>17 game win streak
will you guys root for me at evo
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>>539291580
>the african american avatar Vi
i don't know why this is so fucking funny
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>>539291580
Does the duo at least get to burst or push block in juggernaut
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So when are we gonna call this a baby game for babies for stripping down so much to appeal to casuals or is the Riot game a hypocritical exception to this because you don't want to hurt the Cannons and daddy Riot's feelings?
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>>539295185
you're up early today
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How do you fight Illaoi? I assume she's weak to parry but I have to lab it. She's super fucking annoying.
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>>539295469
theyre making such fucked up setups for her that if you ever get knocked down in the corner without burst you might as well put the controller down lol
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>>539295469
I wish I could give you advice but she's so fucking rare (at least in the lobbies I'm put in) that I really don't know shit about her. I'd imagine that dealing with her neutral isn't that bad but if she gets to set up it's just over.
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>>539295283
seething
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>>539295936
i dont care about any company or any game dev. if a game is fun i play it. i suggest you invite joy into your life
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>>539292631
Control my character? Yes I have my pad plugged in and can move left and right. I would like to see a egirl totsugeki 5 times in a row. Strive has 5 mechanics half the retards on ladder don't use. I never see any roman cancel. I never see anyone even wall break. Push back on block hurts most ppls brains mr autism. Every fgc by your def then is easy cause what? I can spam air dash?
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>>539295089
I doubt it the girl was afk af
One time she forgot to swap off point and we got a free win
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>>539296506
if you as a beginner can do at least 40% of the other player's health in one combo, it's easy to get into compared to other fighters, yeah.
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it's so stupid but i feel less motivated to grind the fuck out of the game knowing that i won't get to keep my gamer points and unlocks
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>>539299571
i get it, its pretty retarded that they do a full reset but then again people would whine that betafags already have everything
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>>539292318
Jesus Christ. Who even likes inputting essays for combos
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How long until this gets shut down by riot?
I'm betting 6 months after release.
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>>539300247
i do hope they make progression for masteries at least a little faster
that 100 mastery chroma is mighty far away
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Played a few games of DBFZ and I'm thinking of uninstalling 2xko. Even in it's supposed worst state inthe current patch (season 2 was worse) DBFZ is just way more fun to play. 2xko just feels like a Frankenstein's monster of a fighting game. Characters feel fun to use while labbing at least.
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>>539292318
I think most KOF13 combos are easier than this.
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>>539301003
>DBFZ is just way more fun to play. 2xko just feels like a Frankenstein's monster of a fighting game.
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Does league have any good character designs to look forward to?
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>>539301661
lots of cool characters
lots of mid and bad ones though, and it's more likely we get a bunch of those
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I know its still in its beta phase but the game just feels a bit half baked presentation wise outside of the gameplay. I'm not a League fag and the game doesn't do much to make me care for these characters. For a F2P game relying on skins and selling characters for money I don't feel the urge to do either.
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>>539302165
desu it does a pretty good job representing their league versions with lots of nods to their tools from that, but i think with 0 context for any of that it'd definitely be lost on you
i wonder what they could do about that though? some kind of dinky little story mode to introduce the characters?
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>>539302258
ok here's my pitch. every 5 mastery levels you get to take your champ on a date.
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>>539302258
they could do what every other FG has done since forever? what even is this question
a story mode is questionable, but intros, outros, bios, interactions should be a no brainer
if you want good presentation, take notes from Granblue. They are #1 and there's a huge power grap between the rest
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>>539302758
actually yeah, the lack of intros and outros is pretty pitiful. in fact one of my biggest gripes in this game's presentation is how in the win poses, the characters just silently do a little pose instead of saying a one-liner
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>>539302758
>Granblue
Yeah I love Granblue and it's characters and I never played the gacha. GBVS does an amazing job with its characterisation. Riot ought to take notes.
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So there aren't any combo trials in the game? Why wouldn't they include this?
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>>539302758
>>539302854
It has been said many times before, but the fact they themselves said they spent 6 years on 2xko and it doesn't have these basic things makes you really wonder what the fuck they actually did for all these years
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>>539303824
Beta, not worth adding because they're expecting to change characters a lot, besides there's like 10 more important things they need to work on before combo trials
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>>539303828
>what the fuck they actually did for all these years
Playtesting with the various influencers they invited to their headquarters.
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>>539303925
>Beta
I dunno man, the beta being open for an indefinite amount of time with the full launch happening after just feels as if the game is done already.
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>>539304171
feels like theyre pretty much just testing out how the servers handle the player load over a long period of time or something
also the beta's definitely gonna shift to full release within a couple weeks
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Any good follow ups on Vis S2? Mashed or unmashed doesn't matter. Or is it strictly a combo ender?
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>>539304240
I just don't get why they never done an open beta, have they even done any console betas with crossplay yet either? The super secret clubhouse feeling 2xko has had with all it's closed alphas and influencers play tests over the years seem to have dampened it's hype. Its supposed to be F2P but access has always been limited throughout it's testing.
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>>539304171
>with the full launch happening after
I already forgot about this, seems like a really retarded decision to make it so that everyone who actually wants to play the game will already have it when you launch.
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>>539291168
I really dislike yohosie and it's not because he's a tranny
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>>539307258
And all the new people who would be interested but not so invested that they signed up for the beta will just get bodied by all the veterans who already have at least a month's worth of experience with the game and immediately quit. The devs are working hard to make every possible bad decision with this one.
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>a few days ago
>"the optimal combos are long and frustrating but at least I can do an easier version for 10% less damage and the same oki"
>now
>autistic ToDs off L starters
uhh yeah I think this game isn't for me
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Thanks for keeping the thread alive eurobros, but id be better if you guys filled it with actual discussion instead of just shooting the shit
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>>539291168
yeah maybe they should teach you this, so many people roll backwards in corner and they probably don't even know why they can't jump/tech my throw
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>>539310891
seems like a major oversight to have to wait until neutral recovery triggers before being allowed to downback, should have to be a clean 4 to trigger backroll
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rito held locals at their hq
idk how you can be this in touch with the community yet refuse to give us an option between motion inputs and s1/s2 that's the biggest complaint i see
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>>539310972
Blazblue had the same issue, I absolutely loathe games that don't allow me to hold downback while getting comboed.
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>>539311252
no motions + autocombos are their way of pretending the game is accessible for newcomers. If they made motions an option some higher-up suit might take a closer look at the game and realize they made a kusoge that only appeals to a tiny minority of hardcore tag enjoyers.
The real reason is probably that they don't have an motion input interpretation system worked out and implementing such a system is not as easy as it sounds, even games that have been built from the ground up to have motion inputs such as SF6 have some wonkiness when it comes to detecting the correct motion.
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>>539311791
>>539311252
dead shit game
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>>539311791
Ironically SF6's input detection issues are because they tried to make things more lenient for newcomers despite having modern. They should have taken the opportunity to tighten the input reader instead when they gave casuals an easy mode.
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>>539285463
his projectile is unironically better than jinx's ones, especially as an assist
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>>539303828
Pretty sure it was dev hell from day one
>started as a 1v1 robot fighting game repurposed into league
>became a tag fighter
>became a fighter where you could duo with another person
>have revised things so many times every alpha/beta has played extremely different with new mechanics each time
>jinx was one of the first characters ever seen, but then was completely redone and ended up actually getting in as the 6th or 7th character (assuming this happened for basically every character, possibly multiple times)
It's no excuse, Riot has the money, but it seems like the devs or project leads just had no idea what they were doing. They were also way too gameplay focused, with basically a majority of the team being former and current competitive pro players. I feel like they were also netcode focused, which seems a bit weird considering they decided to region lock the game even though on GGPO you can play with other countries pretty well. So seems like a lot of wasted dev time, money hiring pro idiots who most likely spent more time fucking around playing than actually contributing to development, and a ton of ideas with no one competent enough to form a complete picture around them.
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>>539295469
her air dive move is unsafe on block if you dash up past the tentacle
if she does her ground projectile you can hit the tentacle before she IN MOTIONS it
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>>539295469
She suffers to projectiles and will charge her tentacle in response, and which point you can dive in on her. Also the small tentacles can be jabbed. I wouldnt say getting in on her is really poses a unqiue challenge compared to others, though
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>>539311252
>idk how you can be this in touch with the community
Inviting influences (most of which are just straight up friends of the dev team) isn't being in touch with the community
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How well is that Invincible game gonna do?
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>>539314184
lol
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>>539314184
About as well as that HunterxHunter game did. Perhaps slightly better, considering it doesn't look quite as ugly and cheap.
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why is L+M dash instead of throw
actually why is it dash in the first place? you already have 66 and the macro
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>>539316754
on stick (and leverless) it's awkward to use more than 6 buttons and 66 is not a realistic option for this kind of game. I'm actually surprised that MH is throw instead of close 6H
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>>539316754
probably a stick player thing, macro and L+M are both superior to 66 but they're struggling for space on 8 button layout so they might not want to bind a specific macro.
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I have the game but I'm not going to play it till they balance it.
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>>539301003
the problem is that DBFZ is in maintenance mode and there wont be any further updates so the population is small and getting smaller.
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>>539304432
An easy one is dashing forward and scooping them up after the wall bounce.
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>>539301661
Zed will be really cool.
Not even a zedfag but he is just perfect for a fighting game.
He'll be like Ekko with moves that blink him to clones but the clones will be more intentional to place and will be able to copy his attacks too.
Also Qiyana shes sick
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>>539317068
The game is pretty balanced as is
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>>539295185
Frankly. It really isn't as much of a baby game as I thought it would be. They may have set out with that goal, but I honestly cannot see any newbies sticking with the game. Most are gonna drop it in a week.
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>>539317068
This but until they add characters I like
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>>539291683
It seems like they do not want any oki at all in this game.
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>>539295185
Probably never. This game is pretty complex and I see people being filtered after a few weeks.
Riot really did make a kusoge for the old heads.
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>>539304432
You can hit almost literally anything
It wallbounces just dash in and juggle with a medium or a charged punch
Most of her optimal combos dont use it though surprisingly
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>>539304432
you can sway under them if they're high enough
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>>539319842
there's also an easier version that's only 20 less damage after vi's super
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>>539287736
https://youtu.be/X0VuPu9Ru7g
https://youtu.be/HSK7Xc-e1ks
You should have seen his Instagram when it was public. Dude gets swarmed by girls on the regular. He has some wild videos on his channel too of other players begging him to have sex with them. Some even offering their GFs if they can just watch. There's some video where some deranged fat guy is begging for scat pictures from him. Sick af. But kinda funny desu too lmfao.

People just hate on him because he's not a incel.
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it's annoying that combos are hard done after a ground bounce + wall bounce. let me get one of each god damnit
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>>539304171
they should have done exactly what valorant did with its beta and having twitch drops. It created so much demand for the game and eyes on it constantly with people waiting to get their keys. Missed opportunity.
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>>539311252
is that the 'jam
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>>539318083
>how do i reproduce the 2xko style...
>oh, i know just how
>lets just make her fucking ugly as shit
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>>539322417
Switch champs
Each character can do their own of each so you can do a wallbounce, swap and get a ground bounce and still continue
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>>539311252
>that many nonwhites and females
>oh boy I wonder why the game is shit
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this shit is so ass man
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>>539323396
Vast majority of the people in the picture aren't devs, but instead their friends and random influencers and pro players. Instead of actually developing the game they spend several years hosting LAN parties on Riot's dime, which is quite based even if it resulted in a horrible game.
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>>539291168
Does anyone know if all specials are 1f frame invuln or what? Are they basically like DPs or?
I've thrown and struck people out from them but not sure
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i'm loving the game but there is zero chance any league babs is onboarded to this
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>>539324598
The only reason dooberz took off for a bit was the IP, no one actually cares about the league universe. And the handful of people it brings it will move straight to Tokon later.
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>>539291168
>opponent tech-rolls
>press neutral dash to automatically dash into their direction
50/50 BABY LET'S FUCKING FLIP WOOOOOOOO
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>>539292318
how much damage does that do?
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>>539318736
you normal dash or her sway?
>>539319842
>>539320413
It was midscreen when I tried will try those as a corner combo tho

Thanks
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>2H is 1f air invuln
was this really needed?
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>>539326243
oh my god can this game stop having hidden stupid fucking mechanics?
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>>539325442
you can do mash s2 then run up 5H S1/ whatever you want
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>>539326243
it wasn't, but i love it
i love being rewarded for antiairing
it's been absolute torture playing sf6 and being rewarded with.. an antiair 2HP into air reset
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>>539326753
>huge combo
>into restand
>into crossup for the kill
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this game is quite harder than any street fighter game
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>Blitz can straight up ToD from 2L
Yeah nah
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>>539328580
blitzcrank's damage is quite stupid
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>Yas' air S1 dropped between hits
Weird, I'm looking for routes but I didn't think this would be the kind of move to "fail" after the first hit.
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>accidentally presses one more cr lk
>no combo routes work anymore
issa accessible game
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You niggas still playing this trash? lmao
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>>539326753
Yasuo blitz is the coolest shit man.
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so how the fuck am I leaving the station?
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>>539324705
I used to care before they giga dykefied my favorite character, covered up syndra, released arcane season 2 and retconned Viego to be some kind of abuser because straight relationships are a big no-no
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Where are the patch notes for the maintenance, what are they even maintaining....
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>>539330697
things that need maintaining
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>>539330697
probably stuff like this >>539270736
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Is there an easy way to make sure you don't get a super jump after jump cancelling 2H? I'm trying 2H369 but it makes it harder to get minimum height air specials.
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>>539272276
kekk btfo those kids
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>>539325442
Normal dash
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is the game under maint?
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>>539333475
yes
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I can't do electrics. The buffers in this game feels weird. How many fames is the link between the charged M and the next sway. Also, fuck the buffer. Do it too fast and Vi supers.
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>>539333716
yeah, i'm only going to do 5S1 juggle > S2 mash > ender when playing her
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>>539333716
Once the charged move lands I just instantly hit dash and she goes
It's not that hard idk
Maybe look for the hitstop?
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how do we convince the devs to add motion inputs and remove one of the special buttons? this control scheme sucks ass
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>>539334243
get sajam leffen diaphone sonicfox to complain
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>>539334296
none of those people are crippled so thats not happening
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>>539334243
How do we convince devs to throw this shit out of the window, restart from scratch and go back to picrel?
We probably don't
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>>539334664
I know that Sajam and Diaphone both complained about the dogshit controls during the first betas.
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>>539333716
electrics are doable.
What happens to me more often is that the electric doesn't come out. Having fast hands has its drawbacks.
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Is it back up or still maintenance? I can start but get a message regarding a full queue, so what does it mean?
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I've seen costumes on some streams, are those mods? Or can you get some? I want to optimise Ahri for gooning.
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All you noobs enjoying this slop play while you can because this shit is gonna flop bigger than multishitters
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>>539336973
>noobs
are you 12 man
at least hit us with a slur or something
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>>539337065
Slurs are lame and dumb and not cool.
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>two special buttons are bad
>one special button and one assist button is good
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>>539339032
Yes. LMH for normal stuff and quarter circles for special moves.
One special button to hold the character's most gimmicky unique moves.
Remove Assist button
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>>539337065
riggas
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>>539334925
Dia was talking about how this scheme was better for new people in his last video tho
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>>539339032
Facebookfrogposter, did you know Fred Durst, who your frogs cosplaying as had actual brain damage?
Is that why you're posting your rancid opinions with that image?
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is comboing off grabs a common thing for most teams? Ive found a few setups for grabs that I can extend in the corner but I haven't seen anyone using this for a scary strike throw game. Is it rare or just something that people haven't implemented yet?
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Did they need this many fuses though
Couldn't they just choose one style and stick with it
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>>539343158
yasuo and darius can already combo from a throw in corner
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>>539342146
A mandatory eight button fighter with diagonal command normals is absolute nonsense.
Newcomers would be more comfortable doing pretzel and pentagram motions than this.
Doesn't matter how "easy" they make combo execution (it's not easy, shit feels so awkward) when they keep increasing the execution by making combos longer and more complex.
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>>539344150
yeah but is it a common thing that almost any combination of champs can do or is it more of a niche thing?
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>>539344295
Its a 6 button fighter tho? Dont tell me tou think SF6 is an 8 button fighter too lmao
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>>539344297
I know jinx can get a throw combo in the corner, but I don't think ahri can without an assist
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>>539344107
The fuses are a game design gimmick from league it's like the rune system.
It makes it more interesting to main characters when you can switch up your gameplan just a little bit and it's much easier to balance than something like giving characters different movesets like in gb or melty.
Sorta just a replayablity and self expression buff for the game I think it's cool.
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>>539344107
i hope they add a couple more down the line honestly
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>>539345369
it's cool but badly balanced

for starter, solo fuses will always be shit and they have to
the others, I guess? but what's the point of going freestyle for epic combos or mixups when anything you pick 2 touches the opponent anyway?
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>>539345572
cause its fun
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>>539345572
2x assist is completely insane with zoning too
Saw this one Braum Jinx team with it and it was foul there's some stuff you can cheese around with
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>>539345369
The fuses are cool yeah
However, comparing it to runes just made me realize how lame they are aesthetically.
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>>539345754
I dont know why they didnt theme them around runes
Just call 2x assist Lethal Tempo and freestyle Phase rush or something
Juggernaut could've been Conqueror like damn
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the damage makes sense (with some exceptions) but does anyone else think that combos go on for way too long?
Even without ending it in a super
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>>539346402
I don't care personally, but it's one of the most common complaints. Apparently Yasuo is the biggest offender
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>>539344803
SF6 is a six button fighter, all of its buttons and necessary double-button inputs are placed in good intuitive positions without any complications.
2XKO is an eight button fighter, no one is going to be pressing L+M or L+H on their controller comfortably. No matter how you try to rebind away from the default controls, you will need macro buttons. This game was made for stick/hitbox users, not controllers.
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>>539346767
>no one is going to be pressing L+M or L+H on their controller comfortably
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>>539345572
Freestyle has some crazy stuff I think people just need to get better at it
The fact you can keep inputting rekka inputs or holding charges after tagging out and straight up playing two characters at once
That shit is so stupid theres no way thats bad
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>>539347452
it will probably become the only way to play
for now it's just easier do regular tag stuff + double super
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Jinx should have swing her rocket launcher around for her heavy normals
Just give it a handle on the end or something
Give it a normal where it bites people
The hammer SUCKS
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>>539346767
>2 button combos in sf6? Good, great even!
>2 button combos in 2xko? Impossible, how can anyone do this?
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is the game out of maint
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>>539292210
I'll take it, but I'm not going to be your friend, that's just cringe
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>>539349675
https://x.com/Play2XKO/status/1968020852034896036
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im sorry but l+m being dash and not throw is aids
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Please report if the memory leaks are still in
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>>539350118
b+c was grab in bbtag so im used to it
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i miss the charged assists
back in alpha lab that was all I would do with braum shit was so cash
mann
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is it dead yet?
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>>539350248
they're still here
nice fucking game riot nice useless beta where i cant report bugs
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>>539333947
Sorry I meant from the sway to the charge.
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Just look at this stupid shit I have the same MS, 0 rollback frames and opponent doesn't get affected by it at all since he could do 2 electrics.
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>>539335750
That means you can't do it.
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>>539356262
Should be pretty much as fast as you can possibly do it
Just go as fast as possible until you're only barely not getting the light version then just drill that rthymn in
Once you have the pattern in your head it becomes super easy actually
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>>539356262
Like, the instant you see Vi move forwards in the animation I start holding
Just make sure you aren't hitting both at the exact same time it should be like a hit - s1 - charge - release in a sequence but as close as possible
Theres like a beat to it, da - daaaa - da sorta
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Is it just me or does jinx 2h fucking suck as an anti air
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>>539358168
It's not just you, someone posted her hitbox on it being worse than a bunch of other 2Hs a bit ago, it doesn't go over her head well
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what is the blue orb shit that everyone spams every time i knock them down and why doesn't it cost any meter?
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>>539358168
Modern games stopped giving zoners strong anti airs so zoomers wouldn't have to actually figure out matchups and could just hold up until it works
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>>539359309
sidekick only thing where if you mash buttons at the same beat as the combo you take less damage
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>>539359375
no i've done it before by accident and i only use double down, it's the thing where you wake up and it hits them and knocks them back
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>>539359309
universal reversal, it's free because it's super unsafe and counterhit recovery so the whole cast can probably tod on block
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>>539284491
No you guys are really that retarded
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shoot em if you got em
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>>539278146
so is neutral to you just time spent staring at each other and not pressing buttons? because the actual definition of neutral is any time both players are able to act (not currently in blockstun, hitstun, or knockdown)
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>>539361348
That is literally the same thing man
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Remember, this is what Riot looks like.
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>>539363154
no I'm pretty sure that's blizzard
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>>539363267
You are wrong.
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>>539361687
you don't play fighting games do you ? be honest
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>>539363154
I thought Riot had problems with dudebro culture with the farting on people's faces and stuff like that? Can dudebros look like this?
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>>539363492
I play strive
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i wish yasuo wasn't so fun, because i feel like i should be learning someone else
i don't actually have a secondary
i'm just playing blitz assist
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what yasuo chroma should i get?
pink or akuma
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Is this game worth learning or should I learn a guilty gear or whatever else my friends looking to play? Have some qualms about tag fighters since I'm told they're always full of 0hko and infinites
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>>539364149
this shit is dead on arrival, play something else
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>>539363908
pink
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>>539364149
Dawg its free why not just try it and see if you like it
Just mash some buttons against the noobs and see if something clicks or if you hate it
Better use of time than talking to us retards
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>>539364149
Play Rev2
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>>539364149
it's fun. and free. why not give it a shot?
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did anyone ever use a taunt?
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made a duo leave the lobby after one match
it's the little things
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>match with Chris G
>almost take a character but lose 4 times badly
>go to stream
>3 minutes straight of ads
Nah playa
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I thought fighting duos would be easier than solo players since theres a lack of coordination two two people. Ive found its actually harder since you have to learn two different playstyles, plus the off player has plenty of freed up brain power to study how I play.
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>>539369643
i still havent tried it but i don't wanna mic up
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>>539370074
i just talk through text with my duo



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