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Post TI dranks edition

>INFORMATION & GUIDES
Wiki: https://liquipedia.net/dota2/Portal:Game
News: https://dota2.com/news
Patches: https://dota2.com/patches
Updates: https://dota2.com/news/updates
Lore: https://liquipedia.net/dota2/Lore
For League players: https://dotabuff.com/learn/lol
Bug tracker: https://github.com/ValveSoftware/Dota2-Gameplay/issues
X: https://x.com/dota2

>STATISTICS
https://dota2protracker.com/
https://dotabuff.com
https://opendota.com
https://stratz.com
https://stats.spectral.gg
Personal game data: https://steamcommunity.com/my/gcpd/

>ESPORTS
https://liquipedia.net/dota2/Portal:Esports
https://datdota.com
https://dota2.com/esports
https://gosugamers.net/dota2

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Sex with _______
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>>539184217
Good honest woman who loves you for what you are, not for what you can give her.
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>>539184217
MinD_ControL
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jugg reaction pick russian translation
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>>539184269
Ewwwww!
>>539184285
Weeeeee!
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>"hurrdurr shartour probably seething that cr1t won a TI without him!!"
>check rtz twitter
>was rooting for cr1t the entire time, happy for his friend
why are the people in this thread so hateful and dull
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>>539184394
They project their lives onto others. Nothing new. 4chinkers are never be truly happy.
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>Mobile Legends player KarlTzy named himself after his idol, Arteezy.[16] He was later joined by Flap, who looked up to KarlTzy in turn, and named himself "FlapTzy" in response. The two players went on to dominate MPL Philippines Season 6, starting a fanbase called "Tzy Nation" and becoming a household name in the Philippines.[17] Multiple Mobile Legends players started adding the "-Tzy" suffix to their names, with several becoming professionals themselves, such as 3MarTzy and KyleTzy.
Arteezy leaving behind a legacy
Though maybe not where he'd like
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>queue's long in the morning, I'll have time to do this 2 minute thing
>do the thing
>come back to see match was found and I didn't accept

>requeue after 3 min ban is up
>20 min queue
>some faggot presses queue again
>20 min and counting
great game valve
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>>539184340
The only people I've seen that thought XG had a better line up than Falcons was Gorgc and Puppey lol.
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Now we're back to 1 post per hour. Queueing in the US still takes 10min on average. Dotards you need to stop being delusional.
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you know, i didn't even follow this TI that closely. don't know why but helmdom meta just isn't too fun to watch
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>>539184764
It wasn't that bad but Ame choked like twenty omnies.
>>539184867
Agreed. Same dumb shit as 11's auras. It will be nerfed.
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>>539184867
it is a lot of micro managing, its a woman's strategy.
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>>539184923
I would honestly hate to be Ame's juggernaut in game 5. so many things could go wrong with him. fighting a Medusa is honestly never fun
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>>539184964
>it is a lot of micro managing, its a woman's strategy.
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>>539184768
god damm this elf is fuckable.
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>>539184867
Bb nigma heroic
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I'd like to taste every type of liquid that comes out of Ammar's sister's body
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where is he
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>>539184867
I like micro but it feels really cowardly in a game like dota. I guess the bounty is the risk but eh
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>>539185118
You have to taste Ammar's first.
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wait a minute, after sleeping I just realized they didn't annouce a new hero or anything despite that there is going to be one more TI.

those fuckers make millions per hour can't they have few guys to work at their dead game out of pure ebin AAAAAAAAA
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I didn't even notice the Fly roster for Avulus had already disbanded
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>>539185351
>that there is going to be one more TI
What do you mean? Of course there's gonna be one more. They conduct them every year.
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>>539185351
dead game
dead winners
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Win TI, fuck bitches, get £££££'s. ATF living the good life.
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>>539184985
Medusa really needs to be reworked. She's over tuned against the entire dota roster to compensate for her awful winrate against antimage. Likewise antimage is undertuned against everyone else because his auto-win match-up against medusa props up his overall winrate.

Sure dota has hard counters (antimage himself has many terrible match ups), but none of them are quite so game warping as the medusa-antimage match up.
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Everything in the world is designed and planned by God with the sole explicit purpose of hurting me by the way.

If there is some inconvinience or pain in your life, minor or major, it's because through God's plan, butterfly effect or such, it snowballs into causing pain me specifically, somehow.
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>>539185530
>"I wanted to get a pic of me with the aegis to post online with a bunch of chicks"
>"Oh sorry, not you sheever"
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>>539185530
>Girls actually pose around him for some good fun instead of freaking out about it
Nice.
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>>539185530
>£££££
Oi, you got a loicense for these 'ere quid signs m8?
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is the 2021 true sight good
i watched it at the time but i can't remember, i feel like it was meh because of covid shit
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>>539184174
What even is happening with mind_control now? he hasnt played in a year, please tell me hes not retired
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>>539186087
>team spirit storyline and magnus raping chinks
It was the best one
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>highest player count in several years
>they don't even capitalize on it with new hero hype
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I already got the rubick arcana when they gave away one for free few years ago, I assume pudka's arcana is the most expensive now? that's what I will try to get then
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>>539186323
Oh boy I can't wait for Animal Profession
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>>539185787
That's nothing!
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>>539186367
please don't talk about free arcanas or purple immortals in this thread - some of us blundered our predictions and fantasy and won't get either.
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>>539186087
All True Sights are good since they were produced by the in-house Valve team. They kind of gave a fuck about it back then. The TI10 one may probably be not as interesting to watch compared to 8 or 9 if you don't speak either language, since neither team speaks English in it.
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>dota is such a solved game that dota plus is a better predictor than all the pros playing the game
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>director8's face when slacks was announcing game5
kek
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>no new hero
>no new arcana
>no new patch
I honestly am rooting so hard for deadlock to crash and burn now, I understand the artifact hate now (even though valve worked on dota 2 far more in those days than it does now and I actually liked artifact and hoped it would be succesful)
we will celebrate once more as the traitors fail miserably to try and kill our game
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So, was OG just ran by retards in recent years?
they had
>ATF, just won a TI and probably the best offlaner in the world for the past year or so
>bzm, who despite kinda sucking in Tundra is still a top 3 mid in the world imo and is also a gigazoomer who can only imrpove
>DM whos been solid for Parivision since joining
and they all let them go/blew it with them? why? werent they all about >le good vibes, never give up, team building, etc
They easily could've been the first team to triple TI in history if they stuck with the solid players instead of getting literal spic teams for the meme
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>>539186376
>>539186323
>Introducing Donkey Baker!
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>>539186610
>was OG just ran by retards in recent years?
Literally yes
They were doing nepo shit, putting someone's sister as the ceo or manager and shit like that.
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>>539186610
yes
their management is retarded and that's what happens when you have an org that develops just from a few guys forming something randomly and not really thinking ahead
also seb and notail were kind of halfassing whether they wanted to play or retire
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>>539186610
>So, was OG just ran by retards in recent years?
I think they just got tired of dotards. The bag is already in, they can retire. It's not like notail owes anything to anyone.
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FROM THE RIFT IN TIME AND MAN WIELDING A BOOK THAT KEEPS IT'S SECRETS
INTRODUCING THE NEW HERO:
DETECTIVE ABRAMS
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TI prediction, 1 wrong prediction, all wrong, half the prediction fucked because of one wrong prediction, motherfucker. Fuck you Tundra for throwing this hard, inb4 "not counted, muh whitemon" fuck your whitemom!
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>>539186610
>So, was the entire NA scene just ran by retards in its entire existence
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E-Sports orgs are mostly run by retards. Yes.
LIQUID is probably the only one that's truly SOLID.
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>>539185223
I don't know if I like micro. it just opens up an entirely new dimension that I can't even begin to understand. like how the fuck does Sneyking play Naga? what does he do with his illusions? when I play Naga the deepest micro I've done is send two illusions and my hero to separate nearby camps, and one illusion towards the wave, right click into shift A click between ranged and melee (so riptide aoes both)
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>Final day total post count: 9054

>TI2023 finals sticky: 10833
>TI2022 finals sticky: 13592

>League of Legends worlds finals sticky: 4758
>League of Legends worlds finals in 2022: 7946

"Dota is dead" my fucking ass, give us the damn sticky.
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>>539184174
>open dota
>remember that bad guys won
>don't want to play dota anymore
It's so fucking over
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>>539186892
Liquid SOLID? If they are so solid, why did they not win TI? why is it some Saudi Team? Stop coping faggot.
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>>539186923
mods are discord tranny leaguefag groomers
sorry
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>>539186940
China is the bad guys, they lost, we are all happy!
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>>539186923
Dotards are just massive fucking autists. Also I bet half the posts are some pol shit. Also it's on a fucking decline. Also League is probably mostly on reddit and discord. Also, where did you get that postcount stat?
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remember that ppd and universe literally quit at the height of dota 2's existance because they thought they were at the top of the world for winning 1 milly and missed the chance of winning ti 6-7-8-9-10 all of them being 20+ million prizepools
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>>539185565
honestly I have had two games in a row some time ago where Medusa won against an Antimage. It's not an autowin matchup at all.

In one game I was the Medusa, and in the other I was the Antimage.

All Medusa had to do was buy Disperser in addition to her other usual items. Besides instantly using abyssal blade during blink in manta, he will never be able to burn the Medusa's mana enough before Medusa uses disperser on herself and runs away.
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>china loses next year in Shanghai
>in face of this public humiliation, Xi personally surrounds the venues with tanks and order everyone (Chinese or otherwise) publicly executed
>this marks the end of dota 2
Do it
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>>539187059
Go to archives, search for subject: d2g. I was conservative and didn't include the thread after the win.
For past years I searched subject: d2g and only sticky threads.
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>>539187096
>quit
what
didn't they just become super washed
uni stayed on eg for like 2 more years didn't he
and ppd made optic
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>>539186960
They won last year you dumbass and the one in 2017. As an org they've been around for over two decades. Shut the fuck up.
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but china won TI, google sneyking's name
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Ammar the type of nigga queuing for pubs after winning TI
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>>539187056
Assholes succeeding and Ame losing just proves that some people are predestined for failure and nothing can change that.
No announcements for the first time in a decade proves that Deadlock is knocking on Dota's death door.
I've never been so demotivated to play the game.
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CHOOSE WISELY
AND CRUSH THOSE RESPONSIBLE
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>>539187187
>jiggaboo wu
damn
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>>539187096
They played for EG another year after winning and got 3rd in TI that year.
Then they broke up or something? I can't remember why. But both ppdf and universe played another year or two in shit teams even after that.
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>>539186660
>>539186727
Just weird to me that they didnt try building a solid team around ATF and bzm in particular, everyone who watched them even back in the Creepwave days knews those two are generational talents, just needed some zoomer tard wrangling by someone with experience. Which n0lans and 7uckingBAD were supposed to be exactly that. Instead, it seemed that they delegated that position to that russian shitter fraud zoomer Misha who fucking destroyed the team. Then they just tried throwing shit on the wall until it sticks getting literally who random players with zero vetoing it seems and now they are basically a meme
They really remind me of a post TI3 alliance
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>>539187221
anyone have that pic of seb doing this after ti 8 or 9 at some shitty desk with a glass of red wine
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>>539187317
post TI3 Alliance was so funny because they got bad but could still produce kino whenever they played against Na`Vi
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>>539187173
>>539187296
ppd quit progaming to play pretend CEO and universe quit dota to start university, he came back few years later washed as fuck
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>>539187317
>misha
kek i forgot about him
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>>539187418
>that TI7 skit where ppd calls himself in the past from the future
"You own EG now."
"Makes sense."
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>>539186960
they are being carried by their dota team for years now and seems like that is about to be over too, after it inevitably disbands again after this disappointing TI
starcraft has been irrelevant for decades where they were also strong and they've always been mediocre AT BEST in CS
i guess they diversified and have websites and wikis that probably will keep the lights on, but i wouldn't necessarily call modern Liquid a "successful org"
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>>539187371
not true, they were one of the best teams between ti3 and ti4 and won several tournaments and were top 4 almost every tournament.
they didn't have a result close to as bad as their ti4 placement the entire season.
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>>539185530
none of them are really that hot desu the one behind looks like a man on his right
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>>539186923
>>Final day total post count: 9054

>>TI2023 finals sticky: 10833
>>TI2022 finals sticky: 13592

>TI10 sticky: 18314
Damn. It fell off. Shame there's no info on pre ti10, unless those threads never got a sticky.
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what's ppd even doing these days
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>>539187636
crypto scams
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>>539187619
A thousand post difference might as well be attributed to a lack of a sticky.
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>>539187059
>Also I bet half the posts are some pol shit
literally almost none, especially compared to other gens
>Also it's on a fucking decline
>d-decling
been hearign this QUITE LITERALLY SINCE TI5. Yet the game has been more than stable for a decade+ since then and we actually had the most watched TI in years now and players ingame peaking

no idea what that weird cope is, is it just old fucks that left the game being salty that the game doesnt die without them? i genuinely dont get it
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>>539186923
it was literally just one mod who was doing it probably because he likes the game, he either died or quit and no other jannies know or care about dota
>>539187619
it was stickied every year since like ti3
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>>539187619
archive only goes back to late 2019 (after ti9)
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>>539187669
>a thousand
No I meant in comparison to TI10.
>>539187720
>it was stickied every year since like ti3
Well there's nothing in the archives for those.
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>>539187720
Then we need a new dotard mod.
Surely there's one or two d2g jannies? You need to climb the ranks. You need to be cut throat. Get rid of the competition. Advance to mod status. Do anything necessary. Gaslight. Gatekeep. Girlboss.
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>congratulations crit you finally joined your former team mates as a TI winner
>here's your $1000 before tax
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Can someone confirm my suspicions that this faggot nigger ES is smurfing? I'm also suspicious of the Necro publicly displaying only 400 wins on his profile and my Rhasta rushing hex while dying 15 times. Its genuinely my fault for playing USE at this hour, EUW would have been better.
>suspicious moments
His positioning at the bottom fight after I got my blink.
How hard he raped my necro
Scouting my rosh when I didn't show my lifesteal item and smoked in base. I think he might be maphacking, or just immortal level gamesense.
If you search his profile ID you find a video from 2021 of some Archon dad playing against the account in matchmaking. Very obviously not the same person playing ES as mr Tim Dota was against in that video.
>inb4 Why do you care?
I don't.

Match ID: 8462561678
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>>539187418
what happened to ppd and his weird ass fucking shitcoin organization anyway lmao?
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>>539187738
Figured as much, I never used it and didn't frequent 4chinks at the time.
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>>539187840
we don't care about smurfing in here, redditor, git gud and stop crying that others are better than you
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>no sticky
>no hero announcement
>no bp
>lowest prize pool since TI2
>most toxic player to ever play the game wins your tournament
>he's also brown
>balance worse than ever
>patch every 3 months
Yeah, time to switch to Deadlock like everyone else. This game is dead.
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is arteezy the only best dota player who remains uncrowned at ti?
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>>539184867
It's Wraith Pact all over again.
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>>539187840
>blogging after the day of esports
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>>539187418
>>539187843
i can't believe these people even have money after a few years, ppd has TI money but that's from a decade ago at this point and wasn't that much, how is he even earning anything, just scamming sponsors?
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>>539187890
>we
Oh, did you consult with everyone in Discord before making this post? Stupid little circlejerking freak. Go play dress-up somewhere else. And its "get good" not "git gud" you stupid little tourist fag. Invented by the fine gentleman at DOTALLY RAD DOT COM. Not co-opted language from stupid fucking dark souls fags.
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>>539187916
gabe newell plays dota every day and once he returns to the office dota will be great again, chuddie
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>>539187916
no one is switching to deaddead
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>>539187916
switch your gender while you're at it
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>>539187953
>best
?
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>>539187916
i'm not going to argue that it's dead but even when dead dota has more players
deadlock has like 5% of dota's players bro
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>>539187916
no one likes your game (((yoshi)))
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>>539187972
Sorry didn't mean to interrupt you guys bitching about how the game is dead and how you miss your favorite streamers.
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>>539186610
ceb and n0tail just hired a bunch of other people to run everything while they collected the checks. Ceb had to come out of retirement for one tournament where he ended up winning and then came out retirement again because his team collapsed without him.
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>>539187916
Lol deadlock players are really that desperate for players but the next dota 2 update is going to be just as big as the new map for them to not tease anything actually we did get a bit of a teaser but not on video they are working on something big
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remember TI10?
>prime Spirit
>prime LGD
>Sumail/Topson OG
>the most legendary Secret squad
>40 mill$ prize pool
incredible
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>>539188095
Deadlock is where dota was at in 2011. Of course no one is playing yet.
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https://files.catbox.moe/rswvnz.mp4
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>>539188203
>actually we did get a bit of a teaser but not on video they are working on something big
Dotards reached TF2tranny level of super copium, it's over for this dead game
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>>539188220
Sucks there was no crowd desu. The series themselves were actually pretty good.
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Idk what arcana to get
I think I want either the Ogre or Rubick arcanas
The Rubick one seems cool because it changes the way the ultimates look
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>>539188220
VGH if only there was a crowd it would would the best TI
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>>539186610
yes OG had so much talent coming in and out xnova was on that team bzm ATF DM 23savage next is going to be Daze like at some point you gotta take the biggest knife out the draw and cut the bullshit what is going on are they match fixing or something at least that nigga khezu is gone he was a massive problem for them

crazy enough the last time they were decent was when taiga was on the team
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>>539188275
This is too aggressive
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>>539188220
Yeah that one was awesome
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>>539188330
get the most expensive one and buy the cheapest on the market
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>>539188220
No because it was dogshit and a proof of the game being more than dead in Europe
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Was game 5 GFs really the game to go
>nah we can beat it
against the most fraud signature hero?
When Naga pressed R and saved like 3 people from being out of position, did they collectively go oh fuck.
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>>539188280
Lol niggas been saying dota 2 been dead over a decade like people dont realize what this game is its a one of a lifetime game valve isnt just going to stop
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>>539188220
feels FUCKING bad that zai didn't win
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>>539188229
dota in 2011 had way more than 10k people online, tardbro...
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>>539184217
Ephey
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>>539188381
Don't they all cost like $30 though?
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>>539188220
yep
no crowd sucked but everything else was great, one of my fave TIs
>>539188229
retard
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>>539188438
You're so right, just 2 more weeks until "super big" announcement, Valve definitely aren't putting Dota on maintenance mode
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>>539188391
You're stupid.
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>>539188275
>https://files.catbox.moe/rswvnz.mp4
who the bitch?
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>>539188615
Vasilisa
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how are you guys playing doto? No need to work? It's fucking monday, how the fuck are you guys neet? What is the secret to be neet doto player? How you survive? Share some tips?
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>>539188220
>prime Spirit
Spirit were huge underdogs. They had only been to a couple of t1 tournaments before TI and had never won anything (one 2nd placement though).
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>>539188731
We don't play.
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>>539188731
imagine playing dota after 7.00
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>>539188503
he should've played like Collapse
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>>539188561
>just 2 more weeks until the game is dead, i swear this time, ive been saying it since 2015!
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>>539188769
I'm playing doto, because i am unemployed and had work on my novel for like 5 hours my brain is fuzzy af to write anymore. What is your excuse? I play doto, and after each match I come here to shitpost a bit about my feelings.
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>>539188856
>What is your excuse?
I have 8k hours and I've been playing dota since WC3. I don't find it fun anymore, but I like to shitpost here. Too many brown people play the game now.
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>>539188718
based
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>>539188825
It will have 200k players max once Russia cuts itself off from the worldwide web
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>>539188803
it was sad that he tried. he literally couldn't
what the fuck is Collapse ON
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>>539188794
The fuck you mean? you are on doto general and you don't PLAY doto? so you what, fantasize about it when you can just queue and play? The fuck?
>>539188917
just play on anonymous mode and mute them. It is not hard.
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>>539188731
i work for home and i grind games for the shitty free items meanwhile
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>>539188731
I don't play anymore, no time, and it's usually not worth it. 1.7k mmr SEA and dropping.
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Will Shanghai 2026 revive dota?
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>>539188946
But then how will i pirate games
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>>539188946
oh for sure dude, just two more weeks !!

also, even if this somehow miraculously happens, what kind of mindbroken zoomer considers a game with 200k people playing it daily """dead"""?
letting fortnite zoomers on 4chan was a mistake
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I've been playing on the Russia server
They're way better than seamonkeys, peruvians, and anyone in US West and US East. Plus, I can't understand them, so I don't get tilted if they say something
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>>539189121
Don't know why they're hosting it there. Gonna be no crowd cause the Chinese dota scene is uniroincally dead. It's just a bunch of old boomers playing until they're too decrepit to qualify for tournaments. They have to play on SEA servers because it's so dead there.
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>>539189121
I think that valve is going to come back to dota hard now that we have 2019 player numbers, they'll realize there's still so much potential in the game
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>>539189159
200k players in a MOBA means hour-long queues in human ranks, might as well be dead
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>>539189120
>1.7k mmr SEA
dios mio... can only imagine the horrors
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>>539189191
Well of course, only the tolerable russians play on their own servers, all the defects with anime pfp are playing on eu
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>>539189246
>think that valve is going to come back to dota hard now that we have 2019 player numbers
Meanwhile CS...
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>>539189252
hunnit percent dude, for sure, totally agree b
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Something is off with the current pro scene. I see no story or narrative. There are no memorable personalities to root for. No bad guys, no good guys. Perhaps that's why people are still reminiscing of 2017 Team Liquid, 2015 EG and OG's golden trailblazing double TI dominance. I watched the TI and I'm like, who the fuck are these guys, who the fuck do I even root for.

And it's not like they're playing better dota, it's much worse, even a noob can see the questionable engagements and ability usages. No wonder they shrunk the prize pools
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The irony of people saying dota is dead is it shows they play nothing but dota, keeping it alive. You want a game that used to be massive but is now actually dead? Look at Halo. Talk to me when dota reaches the state of Halo.
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>>539189287
CS keeps gaining players and it STILL gets literally a fraction of the content and care that DOTA does, that game is literally on auto-pilot its hilarious
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>>539189265
it's unplayable really, pos5s single pull only and as a pos1 it is a 1v3. if you are not a self-sufficient hero you can forget about having a chance at winning
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>>539189421
pro scene is dead, everyone is older now and worried about where their lives are going and if there's future in playing videogames forever, they are also bored of playing it
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>>539189479
>STILL gets literally a fraction of the content and care that DOTA does
Content: Kez is still not out in Captains Mode
Care: not a single announcement outside of location (literally who cares)
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>>539189421
the issue with dota pro scene is unironically that gives too much money. even today without the huge TI prize pools, there are just too many tournaments
all the good and fun players just make a few millions quickly and either retire/lose all hunger, start sucking and fall off so you are just left with some new literal who zoomers

i couldnt recognize half of the players in this TI, cos i dont follow much pro dotard outside TIs
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>>539189609
Those literal whos are more skilled than old pros ever were and its not even close
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>>539189594
yes

and cs STILL gets even less than that lol
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>>539189521
>they are also bored of playing it
because the game is worse these days than what it used to be, imho
they added too much shit into the game and now even pros who literally play this game for a living can't remember every facet and innate in the game, the map is unnecessarily large and neutral items just make the game more random
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>>539189479
CS has always been kept alive by the community though, so no one really cares that Valve isn't updating it that much.
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>>539189662
sneyking has been pro for like 15 years now, so that's just not true.
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>>539189662
ok?
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>>539189609
>>539189521

I remember the whole argument of "why is rtz still in EG" , well because he sold tons of merch, because people cared.

Same went for Eternalenvy, Dendi etc, they werent amazing players but people always watched their games. Right now I just don't care about anyone.
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>>539189479
what content does cs players even want other then hats lol
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>>539189421
It's unrionically the zoomers. They have zero personality or social skills. Even when they win tournaments they just stand there like robots trying to smile. There's no one fun to watch anymore with most of the old guard gone. Now it's just Russian zoomers
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Dota was propt up by 0% interest rates and VC money, now that we're in drumpf economic collapse we'll never see big prizepools again
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>>539189609
>that gives too much money
What are you talking about? Spirit has won more money than any other team and they are still playing.

>I don't follow much pro dota
>I can't recognize anyone
Geez that's a real head scratcher. Personally, I don't want to watch the same players play over and over for decades like some long running soap opera. I'd like new blood constantly coming into the scene and creating new stories with their own take on the game. The game can't evolve if the player base doesn't and I don't see how smaller prize pools encourages more people to play competitively.
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>>539189883
There's like a half dozen competitive maps Valve still hasn't ported over from CSGO.
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>>539189783
literally everyone, even fucking reddit is non-stop seething at valve for the absolute fucking dogshit state VAC is in right now. Every third game has a cheater
You know how gay and cutesy dota reddit acts towards valve even when they are lazy pieces of shit or do retarded shit? well, the cs reddit is literally the opposite and every single thread is shitting on them
you know its bad when even fucking redditors cant defend you
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FANTASY POINTS ARE IN

t. 100th percintele
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>>539189852
>>539189859
Its undeniable the average skill level of players steadily went up so its safe to assume pro player skills also improved
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>>539190045
99% here i wonder if you can sell the purple chest
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>>539189883
i already made a post in last thread, so ill just repost it, cos im a lazy nigger:

nigga, there are like 50 people actually working for valve, there is no dedicated ANYTHING team
you think dota is bad? ive been playing mostly CS in the last 2 years, getting a big dota break and its even worse there considering its their fucking bread and butter, pic related.
they are too lazy to even release fucking hats.
theres basically no content for CS2 since it got released. the last "crownfall" type of event(operations) in CS was literally half a decade ago lmao
and dont let me start about VAC and how fucking useless it is.. literally everyone in CS is only seething at valve, even their fucking reddit

If a CStard sees how much content and "care" dota gets relatively, hell be left without words
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>>539190045
never mind these are bugged as fuck, it shows world highest score is literally same than mine even tho one guy on my friendlist has 2k more points.
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>>539189996
I know I've played CS since 2001.
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>>539190045
I dropped from 100th to 99th. Im starting to get nervous
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>>539190119
How can you possibly even quantify that metric? You're just basing this off of old = bad new = good
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>>539190178
werent they supposed to be untradeable? also scores are bugged anyway wouldn't trust this at all.
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>>539190341
well, no idea what "community" are you talking about now, CS's community is not running SHIT for years now.
Especially now when private servers basically dont exist
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>>539190045
Currently in 100th percentile. Which makes me mad because I absolutely shit the bed with road to TI fantasy. I got like 75th percentile in that, but got 99th percentile for TI fantasy. I should be higher.
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>>539190481
I didn't say the CS community is running anything. I said they've kept it alive despite Valve's lack of involvement. Also, it's not just VAC that has a cheater problem, Faceit - despite pretending otherwise - is full of cheaters too. Cheaters will always exist.
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>>539190178
It's over, im 99th too.
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>>539190413
the items itself cant be traded from what i got but idk if that means the chest itself
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>make it to final day 3 TI's in a row
>lose 2 of them in game 5 grandfinals in traumatic fashion
>retire
>years go by, accept that you will never get another chance again and come to terms with it
>"ugh if only i got one more chance to right wrongs"
>somehow actually get another chance
>that happens
what the actual fuck, i don't even like chinks or root for them and i even i can't emotional process what just happened, imagine being ame right now
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>>539190730
picking clinkz....
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>>539190640
right now, it feels like its being kept alive by chink item whales, but whatever
yeah faceit also has hackers, but i dont mind it when i meet 1 every 20 games there, contraty to 1 every 3 or 4 in premier
i know there will always be hackers, ive played a lot of comp shooters on playstation too, even THEN people manage to cheat quite often and there are hardware hacks that are literally undetectable anyway, it is what it is, but you can do a lot to make it LESS common and valve simply doesnt
i'd never play riotslop in life, especially valorant which looks abhorrent, but from what i know, they definitely dont have such a problem with cheaters with their faceit tier intrusive anticheat
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>>539190730
2 of them were literally xiao8's fault with his shit drafting in closeout games. He for some reason stopped banning SK in game 4, then didn't ban Naga in game 5? Just pure braindead drafting by him. I don't know how these Chinese players still keep him around after TI10.
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>>539190730
Forget him, imagine xNova suddenly getting a chance 7 whole years later after being irrelevant
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>>539190869
Valorant has a cheater problem too, the players are just in denial about it. Also that game is shit played by women and effeminate men, two demographics that aren't likely to cheat anyway.
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free arcana on september 18th
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>>539190883
>be xiao8
>be considered a "legend" during your playing years, despite also constantly choking
>whatever, you retire and coast on your fame, making, be a huge star and live like an emperor in chinkland, making millions fraudulently scamming countless different teams through the years with your '""expertise"" """coaching""" them
life sometimes is just not fair
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>>539191062
Wat
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>>539190957
as i said, i know they do, like i know face it does too
i just want valve to manage to reduce the cheating problem in premier to the level of faceit/whatever it is in tranolant and ill be happy even if no hats/operations/new maps/etc at all, i just want to play normal games
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>>539190883
Because he is still a masterful drafter even with his 322 throws
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>>539191062
Which one are you picking
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>>539191070
Yeah he's been a problem for a long time. He cost LGD the win at TI10 for not banning Magnus and lost this one by not banning SK and Naga. Ame needs to get rid of this retard.
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>>539190045
How 100th are you? Can't trust valve's coding for shit.
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>>539191423
You have 3000 more points than me and I'm 100th also. The numbers must be fucked.
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>>539191420
>>539191070
wait till you find out about Poopey...
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>>539191423
I got 4k more points, I'm that 100th.

So yeah these are fucked no doubt.
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>>539191604
>>539191479
>>539191423
You guys realize that everyone over a certain threshold will be 100th right.
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>>539191734
Lol don't tell them that
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>>539191259
a carry one
>>539191423
22k, also at 100th
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>>539191734
of course, but when your game tells you the highest score in the world is literally same than yours, even when guy in your friend list has 3k more points its pretty obvious the numbers arent right.
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>>539191884
The bad guys always win. We live in hell.
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>>539191884
skiter: crowned king
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Place your bets on which teams will have roster changes
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>>539191423
i have to quit doto afterall, i am so far behind that it is pretty much pointless now. I have no shot at the purple shield.
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>>539191996
falcons wins again and skiter becomes "the goat carry"
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>>539192024
Well xnova is joining the regular roster, the decision was made but were coy about it to not lose the TI slot
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Why
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iWeHvLReB4E
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>>539191884
I wonder if that shit keeps him up at night

>>539192024
Betboom
Aurora
TS
tundra
Pv
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>>539192105
It's more likely he and Ame retire for good this time. No way are they going through this again in their home country.
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i dont really care about this dweeb, only chinaman it still hurts me for is him
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>>539192024
literally all of them
even falcons, 100%
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>>539192394
- skiter
+ Arteezy
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>>539191884
And he lost to Magnus in all of them
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>>539188361
taiga kek forgot about him, insania stack dodged a bullet when he left
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>>539186923
Worlds is literally a na / euro humiliation ritual tournament but I guess they get to jerk off to the gooks in the crowd or something
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>>539192601
they literally just post interracial porn there
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>>539191884
Real take, they should've picked silencer instead of pugna. They know very well Naga was going to interrupt them but they didn't care about her and it cost them a game
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>>539192394
Cr1t will retire.
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>>539192707
They should've just banned Naga lmao. It's that easy.
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Fck no games today its over
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>>539192453
>+ Arteezy
now they will have BOTH the dota sharteezy and the CS sharteezy in the same org, its like pottery
another LAN never ever
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>>539189479
Anytime valve goes to touch CS those fags sperg out and throw their tendies everywhere (don't blame them considering the """balance""" / changes valve attempted) no shit they don't want to touch the game
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>>539191884
322x3
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>>539192950
Shot 1: Clearly missed.
Shot 2: Missed due to recoil (bad spray control).
Shot 3: Very close, but recoil and inaccuracy make this a reasonable miss.
Shot 4: Likely didn't actually fire because Niko was already dead.
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>>539192856
funny how in the next week there are qualifiers for not but two Tier 1 events. I think event saturation is part of player narratives going into TI aren't as strong as they once were.
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>>539192582
Really underrated player at his peak
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>>539193086
Literally all i want from valve is to fix VAC and remove dust and mirage from the rotation and the game will be perfect, its that easy
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>>539192203
Betboom will but shouldn't. Putting things into perspective, they've had zero success before this year, then with this line up win multiple tier 1 events. Their issue isn't the line up or player skill, it's a lack of discipline and suitable leadership structure.

Tundra... idk. Not having whitemon gives them an excuse. However even if they stay together for now, I don't see crystallis remain until the next TI.

I think you are right about TS and Aurora, I don't see PV changing unless someone like noone decides to retire.
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>>539192330
Real shit him and burning the only chinks that deserve the uncrowned king titles
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>>539192582
What exactly happened with him? I remember him coming out with like a gambling addiction, did he actually 322? I saw I was following him on twitch a month or so ago among the sea of channels and he was streaming slots to like 20 viewers.
t. TI tourist
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>>539193245
Rumor is satanic might be moving to tundra only reason I have pv there and who knows maybe Ts calls him back
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>>539193370
He was throwing first blood for bets
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>>539193370
He got exposed for matchfixing, very detailed. His handler would tell him when to first blood or get first blooded, etc. He tried streaming dota then just said fuck it and became a gambling streamer.
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>>539193245
Betboom was decent last year too but they always got owned by Falcons so they never won anything.
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>>539193357
my boy rotk too
faith_bian also, he was dragged precisely because of that shitter ame
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Satanic will get bought up by Saudi oil money. Skiter will get kicked. PV disbands and their players go elsewhere. noone maybe retires, DM goes to Betboom or something and Dukalis to Tundra to replace Whitemon.
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>>539193490
faith bian won TI6 and he lost TI10 because of xiao8's shit drafting, not because of Ame
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>>539193490
>faith_bian
He got his deserved crown
I wouldn't put ROTK up there though he was always incredibly 50/50 as a player outside of that one TI
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>>539193490
>>539193605
He's still playing, he got 7-8 with Tidebound. He just changed his name. I had no idea until I saw him do an interview.
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>>539193726
He retired after TI11 then came back.
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The Great Confluence is actually a classic Dota client
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>>539192043
How big is the aegis anyway? 5x5 inches or so?
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>>539192043
literally just go on Etsy and get one, it will be cheaper too
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You know bros I'm just really glad I didn't have to sit through another round of coach interviews with blitz. Also skiter, sney and aui are all EE disciples so I guess he wins again
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how much did it matter that Gaimin Gladiators didn't go to this TI?
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>>539194274
XG would have been a top 3 or lower team
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>>539194274
Not at all.
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>>539194274
yakult were probably better
gg looked awful last two months
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>TI is over

Now what?
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>>539194538
Wait until after Christmas vacation for Valve to update the game again. I'm guess around April they release something with a winter theme because they forgot.
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>>539194538
anything else than dota
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So, GG are sure to disband during the new season, right?
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What did valve mean
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Now I'm 99% AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA I want my rubick arcana to ruin pubs
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>>539195020
they thought >random runes look cool, nigga
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>>539195020
its finally here.........
the great conpooence
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>>539191259
I'm between Vengeful Spirit and Pudge.
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>>539193414
where did that rumour come from? sounds like nonsense
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>>539195420
the problem with the venge one is i doubt you can unlock queen imperia
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>>539193370
went full gambling 322 retardation yeah
quite sad
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>>539194274
>make TI
>get to grand finals and get 3-0d again
it's for the best they didn't
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>>539191062
what's the catch
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>>539195767
you have to sign in with your steam account int a .ru website
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Fuuuuuuuck were the finals as good as they looked? I'm sad I might have missed out on kino because I didn't want to pull an all-nighter. I normally thoroughly enjoy the threads when finals are on but I pussied out.
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>>539195917
game three with ame on sven was fun, the others were a snoozefest
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>>539195917
the bad guys won, so no
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>>539195917
to be honest most games seemed pretty over at the 20 min mark
game 2 and 5 were lost at draft
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>>539195917
it seems like these chinese teams just can't catch a break when they go into long series. they just kinda lose their mojo the later the series goes.
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>>539195917
All of them were slowly suffocating stomps
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>>539195917
lol all games were bad, the team with advantage at 15 minutes just snowballed without resistance
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BO7 finals
BO5 semi finals
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>>539196106
last time we had a bo7 finals in dota it lasted over 8 hours with a lunch break
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>>539196203
I think this has been the only bo7 final. A fucking reverse sweep.
Did it really have a lunch pause?
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>>539196049
it doesnt help that falcons are the opposite
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>>539196260
>>539196203
>>539196106
id only want to watch a bo7 if teams could only play a hero once
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>play dota
>first game I play since TI the enemy team has an offlane Ursa and a safelane medusa
I LOVE DOTA, I LOVE SEEING THE SAME 20 HEROES EVERY SINGLE MATCH!
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>>539196260
Yeah I watched it live
Ig was up 3-0 and they went to lunch or had a long break or whatever and then dk came back it was funny
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>>539196203
so? just make the very last day be just that, instead of shoehoring the lower bracket game, its fucking lame
it will make it more fun when both finalists have enough time to rest anyway
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>no new hero
>no new arcana
>no new patch
>no news about the future at all
valve is shooting dota 2 on the neck in front of everyone and no one does anything about it
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>>539190045
>100th percentile
>99th percentile
>now dropped to 98
STOP THE COUNT
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>>539196414
the curios goat might be something
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>>539196260
>a 16 minute game
the fuck?
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>>539196358
i havent played dota in a while, is safelane dusa supposed to be bad now?
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22920 points, 100th percentile, I doubt it'll drop below 95th
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>>539196436
They are counting FANTASY points, i am fucked over, 4200 points for FANTASY. fucked by random multipliers
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>>539191996
more like crowned clown. he never plays heroes that require skill like morph, mk, meepo etc
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>>539196467
rax push and gg probably
used to easier to get rax early and was also much harder to deal with it
if enemy got rax before 20 you just gg'd
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Feeling the urge to return to dota as a glorified hat collector, I used to really enjoy single draft. Couldn't care less about mmr.
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>>539196605
it's a fun game
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that was the playoffs for TI, the real tournament starts now, my boy rtz will finally play and gaimin gladiator too
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>>539196753
-dyrachyo
+Arteezy
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>>539196753
Is it true that TI is a flop tournament and Esports World Cup is the real gravy
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>the two fucks that ruined dota forever
I absolutely hate those niggers. Dota is not about your le cheesy quirky 3-str-core-naga-wraithpact-aura-visage-dominator. Get the fuck out of this game.
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>>539187056
Who is ”we”?
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>>539196851
brutal TRVTHNVKE
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>>539196851
don't hate the player, hate the game
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I just hope to see a massive wave of retirements, most of those pros are boring and long overdue
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>>539196851
JEWISH NIGGAS
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>>539196467
In old dota you could strategically end the game early. In nu-dota it's impossible
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>>539191884
He's the equivalent to the SC1 Korean player Stork, King of Silver.
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>>539196851
Naga is badly designed hero.
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I hope peevision stay’s together No[o]ne deserves a ti
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>>539197164
Shanghai 50 million dollar prizepool will be bring everyone back
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now that the dust has been settled
is this an honest or a dishonest TI
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>>539197783
Shes fine as a carry, but being able to have so much impact with zero items as a support is bad.
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>>539197913
the bad guys won, dishonest
this huge map fucking sucks dick and valve needs to shrink it for the game to be fun again
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>>539197913
dishonest as fuck Dusa + Naga GTFO
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>>539188006
>no one is switching to deaddead
yeah, just Valve and Icefrog
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https://www.reddit.com/r/DotA2/comments/1nh7225/comment/nea6xud/
ohnononononono dotards?!
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>>539198125
BIG
GERMANIC
COCK
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>>539198125
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What was the last actually fitting dark fantasy inspired hero we got
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>>539198125
Cockva won...
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>>539198125
lmfao
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>>539198332
>just be 7' tall then you'll get a cute gf
Shit isn't fair
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>>539198125
cockva chained to brown used good when dota 2 scene is filled with cutie tight 19 years old ukrainians waiting for dick
heh, he fucked up
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>>539187840
It's low mmr, people will have stomp games and people will have shit games.
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>>539198404
pedophile behaviour
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>>539197951
Then they should redesign her ult, funny that most TI teams ignored how good is Naga in saving your teamfights.
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>>539198367
>just be 7ft tall and you have a chance to get brown mid tatted up whore
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>>539198593
no, they should stop touching the old iconic heroes and make new heroes that counter the existing ones instead
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>>539198593
there was nothing wrong with it until deluge and ghetto pudge hook happened
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>>539184768
>4.5 hour old thread with 300+ posts
you are so mad right now
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>>539198630
you poor poor manlet....
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>>539198527
>>539199086
ok cockva, you can leave now
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>>539198332
>>539198125
How fucking cringe do you have to be to type this? Jesus fucking christ
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>>539198125
BWC always wins
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>>539198645
Naga is perpetually trashed as a carry because of how impactful she is as a ghetto support, they should change her ult to be item dependent so she can be played as a carry again
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>>539199163
she needs to pubicly declare her love for germanic cock
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>>539199163
>people being in love is cringe
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>>539199104
maybe i can, but you'll never grow to be over six feet tall
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>>539199334
biggest issue was they lost two games off draft
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>>539199163
Cockva told her to announce to everyone that she's his brown cocksleeve
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>>539199283
yeah and you have to type a long ass post explaining it under an obviously joke photo?
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>>539199479
i would
do you even love your wife?
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>>539199479
cockva is probably deeply insecure and screamed at her about the pic and since she's 30 and she's desperate to settle she had to go online justify herself to ledditors
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>>539199248
>>539199163
It's more she needs to public declare she's not with ammar. Its the classic "such a good friend" comment on facebook posts.
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>>539199429
if they lost 2 games because of draft they should have won the other 3
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>>539199859
what kind of a retard thinks she's fucking ammar from a funny meme pic
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>>539198404
True
>>539198527
Roastie cope
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>>539199962
autistic redditors I guess.
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>3rd highest TI viewership
>playerbase back in 600-700k
When valve announces a big battlepass league will die.
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>next TI in china
Why don't they go back to seattle anymore?
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>>539199676
I can confirm this is what actually happened.
t. janitor at the place where they're staying
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>>539200242
Too many browns
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>>539200242
americans don't play dota
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>>539199334
Meanwhile Ame going full emo, feels like a grift tbqh
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>>539198234
no such thing, im afraid
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>>539185530
>beats and shittalks you in pubs
>literally becomes the best dota player in the world
>takes your girlfriends
Damn what a chad
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>>539192757
>just ban magnus
>just ban naga
>just don't pick jugg
>just ban medusa
Xiao "Go wash your face" 8 strikes again
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>>539200319
Chinese use twitter?
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RTZ is going to join a chinese team and win next TI.
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>>539196270
Aui won them this TI, basically. PV couldn't handle 9class getting banned and china choked finals at draft as usual.
What's sad to me is with spirit liquid and gg all being out of sorts it was the chance for the rest of the "good" teams to have a shot at immortality instead of lmao 3cores team
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>>539200242
mutts are gigacringe crowd
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I'm not just having fun playing anymore and I've realized why, there's too much saves, mobility and other shit making it feel like you can never do any impact.
It doesn't matter if you hit a good Lich ulti for eample, because all the supports will instantly force staff of jump away somehow, the carry has insane mobility and BKB.
It doesn't matter if you hit the perfect Clock hook anymore because they will just instantly all disappear afterwards.

There's just too much HP, saves, mobility and all other crap now, makes it feel like attacks and spells are way less impactful which just makes the game feel worse to play.
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>ames wife
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>>539198125
In 2030 one of these 4 girls will try to cancel him for this
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>>539200242
the key arena renovations made the rental too expensive
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>>539199334
pugna did nothing in that last game
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>>539200407
Their org received a license from the gov't to use Twitter for managing their image/soft power in the West
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>>539200612
>why cant i solo everyone as support in a 5v5 game!!!!!
git gud
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>>539200637
Ar that point she could've disappeared tomorrow and he still wouldn't care.
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>>539200796
Yes if you were good enough you were able to do that before, but not in nu-dota.
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>>539200836
>Yes if you were good enough you were able to do that before
which is bad design, again dota is 5v5 not 1v9
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>>539199334
If they let him play Elder Titan again the game would have been a lot better. Either Falcons don't pick Medusa or xNova stuns her for 5 seconds every Echo Stomp.
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>>539200904
Yes having personal skill mattering is bad design... retard.
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>>539200612
>be shaker
>hit 5 man echo slam because giga aoe
>rampage
It's that easy.
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>>539200950
what does personal skill have to do with playing the game 1v9?
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>>539200612
sounds like u need to get good
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>>539201002
Who's talking about 9v1? Why are you goalposting?
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>>539201047
>Who's talking about 9v1?
you are the one who want to solo carries as support
>Why are you goalposting?
that was the goalposts you wrote here
>>539200612

now that you realize you lost you are flailing
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i won a comeback game on a hero i like and i feel good dotards
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>>539201097
How is "it feels bad because my Lich ulti barely has any impact anymore" translate to "I WANT TO 1V9 GAMES AS A SUPPORT!" for you?
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>Every couple of hours I drop a percentile
I dont feel so good dotards
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>>539200937
Medusa is such a cheesy hero. It's fucking over if your skills can't bypass manashield eg. corrosive haze, maledict, reaper scythe...
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>>539184174
>MindKontol
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>>539200637
you just know he'd sacrifice that bitch to Moloch in a fucking second if it means hell finally win a TI kek
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>>539201152
>"it feels bad because my Lich ulti barely has any impact anymore
cause you also wrote this
>because all the supports will instantly force staff of jump away somehow, the carry has insane mobility and BKB.
stop trying to solo heroes, and coordinate with your team to secure kills
ie 5v5 dota
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>>539201241
Yet again, how does that translate to 1v9? Elaborate.
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>>539201289
heroes cant use their items if you stun them but lich doesnt have a stun
so use your team mate with a stun to secure the kill instead of dropping your ult while you're alone
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>>539187608
I think natea is hot I dont sub for Ephey dime a dozen cuz im a sandnigger
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>>539201289
You are trying to play the game alone.
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>>539201359
>but lich doesnt have a stun
Are you retarded?
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>>539201173
Feels absolute shit to pick one of those heroes and then see a last pick Medusa. You can't do anything.
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>>539201393
gaze is a fear
you dont even know the game you're crying about yet are completely willing to insult my intelligence to cover for that lack of knowledge
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>>539200637
>calling you husband's 2nd place at an international championship in anything a failure.
Do you guys blame him, also what is wrong with Chinks
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>>539201173
it is pretty easy to kill medusa, just pick AXE, get gunisoo, hex the fuck out of the medusa.
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>>539201368
No, I want supports and the spells their use to have and feel like they have an impact instead of being a designated cuck whose only purpose is to save the cores with my saving spells and items.
Just because I want spells to actual feel good to use and have an impact doesn't mean I want to solo the game as a support.
Why is it so hard for you to not put words in my mouth like this retard as well? >>539201471
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>>539201513
>let my spells have impact please if i cant solo cores as support then i dont have fun
1v9 dota
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>>539201567
And here you do it again, you disingenuous retard
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>>539201615
you cant have it both ways retard
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>>539193167
I just want to be distracted from how shit my life in the 3rd world cloaca is i mean i get enough surfing through the kali yuga going outside and trying to subside daily.
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>>539201668
Yes you can, it's called old Dota 2... retard
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>>539201728
which was bad design so the developer changed it
thanks for coming out, troll
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just buy nulifier and bloodthorn and you can kill people
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Who at valve thinks that another TI in shanghai is a good idea?? The chinese scene's dead, the only reason XG did so well is cause they bootcamped in europe for months. Are they just gonna invite 4 CN teams and watch them all get eliminated in groups?
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>>539201671
then just play the game
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>>539201759
Yeah it was so badly designed it was WAAAAY more popular than current nu-dota and more beloved.
Clearly Valve is doing a good job when they are losing players, popularity and everything else.
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>just give all support spells massive gamebreaking impact
>teehee i dont expect to kill anyone solo though
this is how you think when you believe lich has a stun
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Sorry Ammar you might have money and be a champion but you will never be white
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they should just release deadlock already so it dies miserably and dota 2 gets devs working on it again
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>>539201858
You never played old Dota 2, just stop talking zoomer.
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>>539201840
>Yeah it was so badly designed it was WAAAAY more popular than current nu-dota and more beloved.
according to what?
>Clearly Valve is doing a good job when they are losing players, popularity and everything else.
green numbers

now you resort to doomshitting after getting BTFO
cmtsu
go away
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>>539201952
>according to what?
Numbers, twitch viewers, how much people talk about it, everything.
We don't even get a sticky anymore during TI, everyone here shat on the game.
It's so fucking bad and pretending otherwise makes you a retard
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>>539201934
you dont know anything about me, stop pretending like you do
just lashing out at anything you can grasp like a complete retard
also i played f&f alpha on dota2 :)
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>>539202020
>Numbers, twitch viewers, how much people talk about it, everything.
this isnt a source
>We don't even get a sticky anymore during TI, everyone here shat on the game.
this happened even with a sticky, tourist
>It's so fucking bad and pretending otherwise makes you a retard
confirmation bias
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>>539202126
>this isnt a source
Yeah retard actual hard evidence is no source. Are you just arguing for the sake of arguing now? This is my last (You) to (You)
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>China gives visa free entry to Russian tourists
>Valve announces Shanghai TI
Happening? Is Gabe commie-pilled now?
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>>539202057
>mana boots
which year's meta was this?
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>>539202182
>Yeah retard actual hard evidence is no source
what hard evidence?
>Are you just arguing for the sake of arguing now? This is my last (You) to (You)
good run away, all you do is argue in bad faith
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>>539202223
the player was griefing
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>>539202057
>"Target practice, payin' off!"
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>>539201820
Need sentient friends for that which i dont have im afraid.
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>>539202540
its cause youre an insufferable loser
try fixing that
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>>539202057
imagine being peeped by this zoom-zoom
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>>539201174
its MineKampftrol, actually
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You now remember Dendi hooking Puppey and pausing at the all stars match
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>>539202873
haha so wacky

what will based DONDO do next time ?!? XD
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>>539201802
Shanghai? I think they should just go back to Singapore.
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>>539195917
Pretty average. Not the worst TI finals but not great. Lower bracket final was better
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>>539203060
pvision was much easier to target ban
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>96th percentile
UNO VENGE ARCANA POR FAVOR
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>>539202953
put his goofballs inside of your anus
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>>539191884
With this loss, has he cemented himself as the biggest choker in all of Dota 2?
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>>539203214
wait are the new arcanas there too? I kinda assumed those were fomo shit.
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>dotards LITERALLY have teams named after gambling companies
and you call leaguetroons soulles...???
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>>539203060
>Lower bracket final is the real final
many such cases
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>>539203387
they only ones that matter (WR, WK, Spectre, Drow, IO) are not in
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>>539203387
only the shop arcanas can be redeemed
sky and venge are shop arcanas, you can just buy them
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>>539202681
Not really im a very pleasant person and enjoyable to be around.
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>>539203528
>>539203387
neither are void and razor, the actually good ones
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>>539203436
is being sponsored by gambling companies really that much more removed?
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>>539191884
The clowned king...
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>>539203239
based
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>>539203354
some of them were chokes but some of them were shitty drafts desu
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>>539203783
>>539203528
Nor QoP
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>>539204165
I think this finals in particular those drafts were just unwinnable. Skiter basically never left his lane in games 4 and 5 and it wouldn't have mattered
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Juggernaut is a dogshit hero because he is so easily countered. His pub wr could be 80% and he would still be dogshit because pubs refuse to build ghost sceptor on cores which invalidate the hero so easily.
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>>539202540
>Need sentient friends for that
Being three digit iq in a two digit iq country must be suffering I am sorry anon.
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>>539204946
No need for ghost scepter when a free neutral item counters the hero :^)
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>>539205242
TRUE.
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>>539205242
TRVCK
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>>539204946
nullifier exists
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>>539205516
how do you reach them to nullify them nigga
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china won, sney "wu liujing" king won
simple as
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>>539205646
same way you cast omni on anyone in the first place
blink
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>>539203060
>>539203459
Kinda crazy how true this is. The TI Tundra won had the most dogshit finals imaginable and an absolutely KINO lower bracket semi.
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>>539205516
1500 gold vs 4375 gold
and still countered by the neutral item
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>Dukalis: "We expected to show a decent game. Unfortunately, we didn't make it to the finals because on the second map, the Chinese fans helped the opposing team when they were smoked. The third map wasn't difficult either, it just happens, we couldn't get the second Roshan. That's all."
KWAB I'd kill myself if this guy was my teammate
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>>539205893
>the Chinese fans helped the opposing team when they were smoked
this is just cope
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>>539188761
sauce?
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>>539205893
they literally had slav whores screaming for smokes on the stadium for paravision
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>>539205893
It was actually the opposite. They were pv fangirls.
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>>539205791
how many blink omnis he managed to do exactly in the last game?
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>>539206116
That was AI
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>>539206116
nobody heard those screams meanwhile chinks stamp their feet sending out vibrations
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>>539206139
the problem wasnt jugg,
it wasnt ghost scepters (falcons had zero) and only skiter had a outworld staff
the problem was draft
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>>539206275
I want that AI in my bed
https://old.reddit.com/r/DotA2/comments/1ngo4he/parivision_know_about_smoke_first/
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>>539206341
so hidden vibrators for communication was true all along??
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>>539206365
atf had a eth blade
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>>539206456
‘fraid so
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>>539205893
It was actually the opposite. The team was giving secret signals to the Chinese fans telling them that they're smoking.
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>>539206341
>german arena so poorly mad that a 110lbs woman can generate vibrations across 20+ft
i refuse to believe it worked
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>>539206671
trust me it was coordinated by the caster cabal sending brain wave signals
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Arcana suggestions? I'm leaning toward Terrorblade's but it doesn't seem to do much when compared to the newer ones like Rubick's, for example.
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>>539205893
It was actually the opposite. Dukalis was smoking in the booth and the clouds obscured his monitor.
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which game was most hype and best to rewatch? betboom heroic game 3?
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>>539206923
Betboom vs Falcons game 1
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>>539205893
as if slavs didn't do the same thing kek >>539206370
isn't dukalis infamous for being a psycho anyway
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>>539206341
holy schizo
>>539206456
kek
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>>539207002
why does he wear the mask?
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>>539205802
from memory ti9 was the same
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>>539202724
Holy based ziggers btfo
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Will they disband
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>>539207374
having hair held him back
also trying to play morf in current year
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the "uncrowned king" moniker means nothing. you don't deserve the title unless you actually win it, ergo you can't be a king unless you ascend to the throne.
i can be on the same level of "uncrowndedness" as Ame even though i'm not a pro player simply because we both don't have any aegis wins.
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>>539202724
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>>539207464
not a chance, their org is well funded
even making ti was exceeding expectations
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Why cant we have a fallen angel hero? Im tired of seeing them on tiktok videos blasting power lines or doing some other dumb shit a nog would do but we cant play as them in the game.
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this guy looks like a high ranking russian mafia agent
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>>539207583
isnt poopey quite literally russian..?
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>>539207694
head bigger than hes shoulders lmao
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>>539207767
everyone that has money in the baltics is russian, only the poor slaves are native inbred balticanese "people", some would say they are not even human, like the finlandese
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>>539207694
this guy can look both ways on a road without turning his head
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>>539208020
nice cope HIVan
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How are games after pro matches?
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>>539198332
who is this max?
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>>539208292
me
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>>539187608
gigacope
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how is dota 50GB? last time i played it was around 10GB
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>>539208292
qojqva
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>>539207519
eh if you play really well DESPITE your team I'd say you deserve it. Which Ame did not do... GPK did look really good despite BB looking like wintraders.
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>>539208567
all hats
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I have no idea if 4-4.2k mmr should be good or terrible. On some occasions, everyone knows what they should be doing and focusing, and seem to know the basic principles well, as well as try their best to use them to achieve victory. On the other hand, you have matches as follows:
>safelane LS, gets talisman first item before boots or bracers
>when asked why, pings radiance and doesn't talk anymore
>treant protector hard supp, who flames lifestealer for everything everywhere and goes mid to steal xp from lvl4
>magnus mid, 0-11. RPs once per 5 minutes the fed LC without anyone near
>me, kunkka offlane, with a bit of hope
>np pos 5, starts teleporting around the map and dying, lvl4 at min 12
And to top it all off, the enemy team kept running into torrents and aghs boats for as long as the match continued. I cannot comprehend how you can play magnus and have a brain that cannot register seeing at least 3 people get stunned for 3 seconds for 5-10 minutes and not come up with a single thing to contribute to that. I am extremely disappointed in every single other player in that match, they had a jugg who full farmed for 30 minutes without contest and managed to die with aegis. I am seriously considering if there's any reason to even play the game if someone has to play hundreds of these matches to get to 5-6k. At least in league I could play for a week and be at the top 1% without having to pay for double mmr.
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>>539208567
hats
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ame is just a choker, he deserve 2nd place forever
xm really carried them in those finals
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They announced a shortstack hero after the grand finals and I missed it?
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i don't play dota anymore but i'm glad china lost TI again
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>going to get a purple immortal and aegis discount
>on my smurf
Well OK then...
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>>539208715
It's the mmr range where some people start trying hard and others stopped giving a shit years ago and play on autopilot or meme. Get someone to party queue with and tryhard on mid or offlane with a high impact support. If you can only play solo your best bet is getting good at mid.
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>>539207694
he probably is
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you did get the rare immortal, didn't you anon?
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>>539208715
you have to understand that no matter the kill level and the bracket pepole arent playing to win the game.
they're playing to win the game with their (often dogshit) hero/strat
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>>539208861
same
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what happened with our on-site dotard? only saw him post the first day of main event
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>>539208715
it's the range where smurfs start playing other roles than mid and it looks like your teamguy sucks but he got dumpstered on by someone double his mmr
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>>539209141
fluffnstuff got him
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>>539208715
4k is almost as bad as 5k and 5k is almost as bad as 6k etc. repeating until 15k. match consistency is shit because most of the playerbase smurfs, buys accounts or just griefs for the fun of it. the same kind of retarded behavior you experience at 4k also happens at 10k because the game just doesn't punish it anymore. there are pudge mains who grief their lane as pos 4 or pos 5 every single game and they are still numbered immortal because hooking into high ground is enough to stabilize and win games in pubs. the only way you can really enjoy ranked dota anymore is if you are okay with ignoring the animal antics of your teammates, or if you are an animal yourself
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>>539208715
>kunkka offlane
you're part of the problem asshole
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imagine thinking people still buy accounts for this game
not even psg doesn't do that anymore, he doesn't even play actually
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>>539208958
The few times I pick a support tusk, the game just becomes incredibly easy. People literally walk up to vision range alone while you are visibly with your carry close by and then you just snowball them and the game. You don't even have to do that, you just wait for the enemy carry to want to poke you once and then you shard them inside your turret range. Roaming with a hard cc support seems to be the key, as long as you do have someone who at least notices this and goes with you. This is obviously not a guarantee.
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>>539209402
we are all aware people just get party boosted or share their accounts nowadays, its just more funny to call people acc buyers and its funny to think that there are thirdies who spend 10 hours grinding mmr with some paid smurf stack just so they can get their asses blasted when playing solo
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>>539209518
That's why you should find someone to party queue with. Two players that communicate and play together make a huge difference.
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>>539209047
nop
Didn't read the first fantasy nor the second
just randomly clicked here and there
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El Presidente will win next TI, I can feel it.
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>>539209280
5-6k is the comfy zone 6k and above is nerds that smell like piss and nolifer tryhards
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>>539208020
lol
lmao even
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>>539209402
nobody cares psg
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>>539209774
well u're still getting an arcana for free and done nothing for it
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>>539209832
LET HIM COOK
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>>539207615
its this doom?
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>>539209310
>t 0-11 magnus TI fanboy
nice ragebait
>>539209280
>the only way you can really enjoy ranked dota anymore is if you are okay with ignoring the animal antics of your teammates
That's just it, I suppose. I think this was easier in league, since the games are so much shorter. It eats away at your soul to squeeze every bit of sweat into a 50+ minute match to see your own jugg go commit suicide with the aegis, only for you to lose just because of that. And then he blames the team, as a final coping mechanism. In league you get one or two players who are too heavy for the rest of the team and this can be easily over in 15 minutes, and then you move on.
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I wonder if Valve cares enough to do something about the accounts that were created to spam the fantasy predictions.
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what if ame built diffusal and tried to kill medusa before she got 6 slotted?
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>>539210063
idk man doom looks like shit this guy looks way better
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I dropped from 100th percentile to 96. They are stealing the election.
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>>539210251
that's just kazuya
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>>539210225
all those accounts are the reason why it's so easy to get 95th percentile
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>>539209832
one last ride
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carry fp=treantquelling
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XG wouldn't have gotten this far without their standin btw
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>>539210105
You pick shit heroes and you lose. you're the only constant retard
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>plebbitors cannot understand that some random intern can use the icefrog, gabe or Jeff account whenever they want to

Just like the androids in westworld, they are simply unable to solve some problems.
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>>539210875
xnova is likely permanent now
which is better since he has history with ame
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>>539211231
not all of us can achieve things anon, and it's fine that way. try to find some joy in life, there are many ways to look for it
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>>539210105
>In league you get one or two players who are too heavy for the rest of the team and this can be easily over in 15 minutes
every good competitive game works like that. it's the only way you can make the playerbase self-policing. having shit players or players who refuse to do basic mechanics on your team should be an automatic loss, because that means there is no incentive to get boosted, and the playerbase becomes violently hostile and refuses to play with people who obviously are boosted.

imo one of the main problems in modern dota is that there's so much friction between just letting a better team stomp the game. it used to be that you needed some amount of intelligence and social contract to play in higher ranks because you would simply get stomped if you picked some retarded shit like pudge support every game. but over the years, the game has been in a feedback loop of people playing like animals, and valve trying to counteract the poor match quality resulting from that with anti-stomp mechanics, which just emboldens the animals to be even more retarded, which forces valve to add more anti-stomp mechanics, and so on. so now the current situation is that you can basically go out of your way to grief a match and still win because it's so hard to end games and the game state resets every time there's a big teamfight
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>from 80th percentile to 90th percentile
Hell yeah, I can almost feel the free Arcana
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>>539211265
shrink ray
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>>539210105
League is just different enough because you can actually climb and carry yourself most of the time. The problem arises when you get mentally ill retards on your team.
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>>539211439
I agree, I was wondering during TI if it would be much more fun if winning a teamfight would give you just a very slight bump, 5% or thereabouts instead of just immediately making the game 70-30 for the winner. Of course the game has to end so at some point teamfights have to start mattering, but it's such a huge swing to go from winning 30 minutes to one teamfight to now losing as hard as the enemy was before, or even worse. And yes, I remember playing league in high elo and seeing someone go 0-10 in 10 minutes didn't really matter that much. You can see if it was genuine attempts or just plain griefing/accbuyer, accept it and you are already in queue in 5 minutes. In dota you have to wait for almost thirty minutes with the same retards who constantly try to get you mad while they suddenly become a TI coach who knew exactly what went wrong and why they were the victim. All because the enemy team can just prolong the match for as long as they want, or even worse, have to since going high ground is an absurdly badly weighted risk as you pointed out. Falcons - XG last match was a great example, 30k gold lead, aegis and still they are so insecure that they almost start throwing by being too cautious.
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You ARE playing a quota of 2 wins a day to get all Quarterio rewards, right?
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If Gaymen was there, none of those chinks wouldve reached finals
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>>539211418
this whole holier than thou act really falls flat since you were blogging about your shit teammates a few posts earlier
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>>539189121
Yes.
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>>539212236
>If I was in that arena with my team, it wouldn't have went down like it did...
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>>539212602
You don't know much about me, but I already know all I need about you. Like I said, go find some joy. You have had your fun baiting me though.
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icefraud the brown WHERE IS THE NEW FUCKING HERO, WHERE IS THE FUCKING PATCH?
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remember when they announced grimstroke and it was sick and epic and the hero was available immediately on the client with an update ready to be downloaded? yes, valve used to care
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>>539196843
it's not so gravy anymore, and will never have big tournament vibes so long as they hold it in riyadh with 100 people crowds
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>>539212236
Bwo you're like a year behind the times, gaimin is basically just another zoomer russian stack this time, but worse. Turns out dyrachyo was doing a lot of lifting
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>>539212909
you seem utterly mindbroken looool
it's just a game bro and these are just some posts. no need to get grandiloquent about anything
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Can someone post the picture with Sheever in front of the Nigma logo pls? Thanks.
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nu-dota sucks
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>>539213537
nope
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wtf ephey
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>>539213716
eh i wouldn't
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jubei will win the next TI
ahahaha, just kidding, jubei is going to jump in front of a bus when his sugar daddy stops buying him twitch subscriptions, he doesnt even try playing dota anymore
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>>539213716
succulent brown toes
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>>539213797
>jubei
can I get a qrd on your special interest lolcow?
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>>539205893
This is insanely cringe copium. He said this shit in the official interview too. Wild.
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>>539205893
>cheat
>opponent starts cheating too
>cry because opponent is cheating
Why are rusnigs like this? Are they jews?
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>>539207767
He's Estonian. But basically, any country smaller than Russia which borders it fucking despises them due to having to deal with Russian "diplomacy" for hundreds of years.
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>>539212117
>I was wondering during TI if it would be much more fun if winning a teamfight would give you just a very slight bump, 5% or thereabouts instead of just immediately making the game 70-30 for the winner
the game kinda used to work like that, but valve couldn't balance it properly. it used to be that being on the winning side would net you tower kills, and if you got enough tower kills you'd naturally win the game. it wasn't hard to push, but it did take time. so the main comeback mechanic was that you'd trade your towers for time, which you would use to farm aggressively. eventually you would run out of towers and lose, or your carries would get farmed enough to bounce back into the game. there was some nuance to it, like intelligent teams would know how to delay the enemy team taking objectives or distracting the enemy team so the carry can have more time to farm (creating space).

sadly valve didn't really understand this mechanic and it has long been stripped out. now the map is too big, the gold in it is too spread out, the hero balance is too wacky to really be regulated by gold, and playing defensively is one of the most profitable things you can do now. it follows that both the losing team and the winning team would theoretically want to engage in a tower defense fight, but that doesn't make sense so what actually happens is that both teams just kinda end up farming defensively and trying to vaguely control the map until someone hits some kind of critical mass on their hero and the game just sort of ends (or it doesn't, and it goes to t5 items and ends totally randomly)

all this is to say that a lot of the game's strategy has been slowly chipped away over the years. i just don't think it's a very good game anymore because of it
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>>539213172
That's when they had like 50 devs full time on the game. Now that number is 5.
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>get matched with 4 ti tourists
>enemy team has real players that sit and farm my fountain for 15 straight minutes
someone wake me up when i can actually play the fucking game again
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>>539214652
A lot of the problem is that the only viable supports and cores have instant wave clear since they refuse to buff lane creep HP. So the entirety of midgame is just heroes clearing waves from fog or sending a dominator creep while there's a core hiding in each corner of the jungle
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dota needs a great reset, this map is shit, we need 6.88f back
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>>539214342
>Clement Ivanov
He's Russian.
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>>539215375
sometimes it is easier to reset yourself.
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>>539213716
the bench is the only halal thing in that image
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>>539215535
imagine being named after this
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>wake up
>still no new hero
Damn that's boring, actually got a little excited for the prospect of an announcement at TI like grimstroke or something
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>>539215535

>>539208020
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>>539216365
fuck off insect
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>>539215375
What are the chances they actually remove the bigger map? Is there anyone that actually likes it?
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now that the dust has settled... what are the plans for this?
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Just lost 100$ bet booming baka
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>>539216434
I think everyone hates it
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>>539216475
removed, easily
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>>539216434
I kind of like it, but i liked it a lot more with the previous tormentor spots. Cant remember the last game where either team went for them.
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>>539215535
>>539216365
surely the thread isnt full of our friends from the east trying to rewrite the history books again (as is their culture)

>>539216434
>>539216569
removing the big map would require valve to admit it was not a good idea so that will probably not happen
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>>539207767
I would guess ethnic russian by name
russians consider ethnic russians and russians by nationality different
and russian disapora living in europe are considered weak and traitorous, even more so after 2022
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>>539216781
I don't really care but he's obviously not Estonian with that name.
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>>539216837
russians living outside russia now pretend to be ukrainian
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How to fix neutrals (without removing them):
>Assign classes to them e.g. Damage, Defense, HP, Mana, Save, Mobility
>the items you get to craft are dependent on the previous item class
>changing class is possible but requires two neutral items i.e. someone from your team will have to sacrifice going with no more neutrals
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>>539216569
It feels like every time they made changes to the map it got worse, only good change was removing the fountains.
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>>539216475
no way it isn't removed after that final.
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>>539210259
Imagine how I feel, from 94th to 86th
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>>539216569
last tormentor spots with Rosh in current spot would be great. Also less camps on the edge of the map or give them a longer respawn timer.
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I'm gonna have to win TI 15 and then have sex with windrunner, that's just gonna have to happen, it's the only way to save dota
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>>539216981
old neutrals were more unique and fun
currents ones are so fucking boring and braindead
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>>539216434
They might remove some of the gold or XP. Hard to say what the fix should be.
We need Icefrog back no matter what, thoughever.
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>>539217579
nah, icefraud will ruin deadlock for the next 6 months at least, the game is in late development it'll launch next year and he's the lead designer
honestly we need a successor to icefraud, someone that used to be a pro player preferably, I'd love to see KuroKy lead dota 2 development for instance
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>>539216475
just make it dispellable
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>get in game
>chinese name randoms Tiny
>insta-abandons
What a faggot.
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>>539218075
It's programmed as a banish so probably can't do it without reworking a ton of shit. It's not like a Euls where you are physically there but at a high z-level.
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>>539217826
she thought she was chasing after the zoomers who likes FPS, thinking she use some of her knowledge on doto to translate to dead-on-arrival fps, a game that nobody wants or ask for, there's marvel rival, there's overwatch, we dont need one more of the same retarded shit, and it is because of that, it will fail, demand is not there, concord failed because it is DEI + nobody ask for it, icefrog's fame can only carry the game for so long, she knows this, she feels like it is a sunken cost, and forced to develop, like most of the shit game, remember the doto card game? shit game too.
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>>539218627
Guardians of the galaxy was """dei""" and was very successful
Concord was blant filtered product slop with no heart or soul or apeal
Unpoison your mind
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>>539218993
Guardian of the Galaxy was carried by funny characters, and good actors. DEI or not, funny characters and good actors works. I am sure, if you can talk to the actors, they will tell you shit about DEI. But it worked not solely because of DEI.
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how many matches do you need to win to gain 1000 mmr ?
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>>539218627
this schizo is right

no one really "designed" dota to begin with. it's like a mishmash of random mechanics that happened to work together by sheer coincidence. all the work was already done by the time icefrog and then later valve took over. watching icefrog try to combine moba and shooter mechanics in deadlock really showcases how amateurish both he and his team are. i definitely see why people still like the game, but it seems to have noting to really do with the moba parts. if valve ever accidentally adds a more streamlined gamemode with less dead weight mechanics like the stat stick items or jungle farming (like overthrow of deadlock) then it might actually see some mass appeal, but until then it's pretty much doomed to be only played by various CIS peoples that don't really give a fuck if a game is fun or not
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>>539218365
then change it to be more like euls instead of like astral prison/disruption
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>>539185565
Medusa is a cheese pick. Her natural counter is Sniper since she's the one who has to dive him. Giving Ame SF and letting Xm carry as Sniper was the last pick draft win. Disruption saves become easier for XinQ and xNova doesn't need to stay forward like a walking ward.
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>>539219476
i can hear the anti-nullifier schizos crying already
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Skeeter carried lamer the faggot
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>>539200356
I called that giving Malrine SK in Game 4 was the beginning of the end. Absolutely no reason to give it away.
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Nud2g lebbit brainlets still havent figured out that xiao8 told everyone and their mother to bet against them
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did anyone get less points than me?
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>>539196106
Winners Finals and Losers Finals being Bo5 is justified since Bo3s are just too tight to reliably determine who's really the better team.
All the other big RTS games get Bo7 Grand Finals, I don't see why we can't, just dedicate the entire last day for it and it will be even more hype. Seriously, I still remember the airport hangar Korean Air finals for Jaedong vs Flash and that was a quick 4-0 stomp. You still have a natural break after game 3 where you can shove in a presentation of some kind.
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>>539219565
One hero doesn't need to answer every single scenario by himself. Engaging sniper is not Medusa's job.
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>>539201173
the fact I still see "pros" use maledict on solo Medusa is still hilarious
>>539200778
i think they were scared falcons would take pugna and ward would cancel xxs blink/do too much against raze spamming sf. but yeah it really did nothing for them that game.
>>539200937
yeah ET would've been much better. sleeping dusa forces naga to sing to cover her then you just traded one spell for one ult
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>>539219381
recalibrate and play like +1000 mmr and you will get there in 10 games
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Medusa's mana shield is peak unfun design
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>>539220340
Yeah I did.
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>>539220340
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remove neutrals
have had way too much impact on the game since inception and they've quadrupled down making them a game winning lottery
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>>539221873
trade medusa for Cassiopeia
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>>539219393
Icefrog never had any imagination.
He didn't invent Dota, he didn't invent Pudge's Hook, he didn't invent Invoker or Meepo or Techies or Wisp.
He did ruin Techies.

Before Icefrog we got heroes like Leshrac and Zeus. Somebody saw the Keeper of the Grove and the Mountain King and came up with the idea of "electric damage dealer", purely from artistic vibes.

After Icefrog we got Gyrocopter (using the gyrocopter model).
Also noteworthy that Gyrocopter was added after Corki was invented for LoL, and same goes for Monkey King.

We need a bad game designer to pour some SOUL into the game again.
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>>539222274
>in game mmr: 500
>real mmr: 5000
forced 50 and shadowpool keeping him down
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>>539222274
Cute boomer dotards
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TI being in Shanghai is cringe. But it at least sets up for the omega kino of the insects losing another TI on their home land
I think they would burn down the fucking venue if the insects lose again
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>>539222274
my first match is in 2012...
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>>539222873
Same
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>>539219476
>without reworking a ton of shit
Wow, it's almost like I already said it's not a simple task.
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>>539223128
no one is reworking how banish works
simple change
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>>539221832
how many times can you recalibrate?
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>>539223331
once a season
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Medusa would be less of a faggot hero if lifesteal worked on her gay ass nigger mana shield
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>>539223403
there are seasons now? when do they start?
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>>539223090
>playing Wraith King in 2012
a time traveler
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>>539223489
So many things doesn't work vs medusa:
>minus armor
>damage amplification buffs in general
>undying str reduction
>necrophos ultimate
>bloodseeker thirst
etc etc, there's a lot more.
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>>539221352
Never said otherwise. You still have ES on Xxs and Ame on SF. The point of Dusa is to safely siege high ground with an Aegis, but she's slow and massively outranged by the best high ground defender in the game. You force Malrine and Ammar to dive, but you have two saving supports and now Falcons is separated. Whether they walk up with Stone Gaze/Song of the Siren or just stay and hit buildings, Xxs can Fissure or jump with Ame. The execution is much easier for XG compared to making miracles happen with Jugg and a permanently dead xNova.
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clicked on my predictions and the game shut down
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>>539224516
you knew too much
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>>539191884
he got over it
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>third worlder teammate uses microphone
>children crying in the background
>plates clattering in the background
>dogs barking / birds chirping in the background
>sometimes all in one game
still puts a smile on my face every time it happens
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>rubick arcana (my top 3 most played hero)
or
>mk arcana and try to learn a new hero (i'm carry player)
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>>539225943
Their mics do seem to pick up on everything except their voice
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>>539226229
rubick
mk stock is gonna drop next patch with the nerfs
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how come tidehunter wasnt a thing at TI?
he usually pops up every year
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Remember
fuck boars
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>>539226708
brings a smile to my face every time
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>>539226708
this was a ti elimination game right?
i remember hearing that he cried after the game.
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>>539226708
This game used to be so fucking ugly
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>>539227058
it was the wildcard match to qualify to ti basically the last chance
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>>539227369
looks exactly the same minus gay cosmetics
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>>539227480
map is way brighter now
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I miss artour
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>>539219269
Thats what I'm saying, same thing with overwatch especially. They literally had a corporate boardroom diversity metric, but the game still worked because every last character had soul and sex appeal. """Dei"" isnt the problem and can often add tons of unique flavors and perspectives, bland lazy corporate slop and predation is the real problem
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>>539228237
His spirit lives on
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>>539227369
>>539227690
maybe the map is nicer.
CERTAINLY the UI looks way worse.
The glyph in source 1 mogs the glyph in source 2
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Aw man I was just reminded about Arcana voting and how fun that was.
Makes me so sad, Arcana voting and new hero reveals were so much fun.
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>>539228393
Majors were fun because rtz memes and him being cursed to never win TI
But I miss that stupid Canadian, but he was /our guy/
https://youtu.be/T0cf5TPqo1w?si=nGfE7CyDWP6kEioA
I don't even have a team to actually root for anymore since most of the players or teams I liked retired
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>>539227369
It looked WAAAY better, source 2 sucks major ass
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>>539223489
Technically, Mana Shield only blocks 98% of incoming damage so you are still lifestealing on that 2% that does get through so you should just do more damage to get more lifesteal :^)))))))
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>>539228487
I know it's better gameplay wise, but I miss when the UI took half the fucking screen and they actually had cool designs and UIs actually changed things and you could use other people's UIs
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>go to sleep
>wake up
>percentile dropped 3 points
Please just hold until tomorrow so I can get my immortal.
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>6 weeks until esports
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>>539229158
>6 moths until patch
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>>539229490
>6 moths
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>>539229564
>6 million dead
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>>539229564
did i stutter
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Jugg was such a shit choice lmao
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>>539229874
morph arcana when
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>>539229874
Why didn't they pick Drow, she would've melted d*sa
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>>539228857
>go to sleep
>go to work
>come back
>percentile increased 4%
heh, guess I am also getting my Tyrian Regalia
98% percentile chad btw
please do not talk to me if you do not have at least 95%, thank you
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>>539229874
Pugna was a worse choice. Not banning Naga was an even worse choice.
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>help my Bristleback win lane
>he gets like 20 kills and assists easy
>enemy team buys shit like silver edge hex atos diffusal vessel
>he buys shit like Aghs heart sny instead of BKB and feeds off cooldown
>lose
Why are BB players like this? There's no downside to buying fucking BKB on a hero like fucking BB and they would rather lose instead of buying it! Every time he died, it took the enemy team like 30-60 seconds to kill him but it gave us zero space. Can't save him because he's dying to 500 DoTs, can't use him as a distraction to engage because he's in deep in fucking Brazil, and they know he's fucking useless so they'll just turn around and ignore him the moment we show up. Holy shit, it's infuriating.

Heart is such a honeypot item. Anybody who buys it in 2025 needs to kill themselves.
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>>539230260
Jugg Ult gets countered by a neutral item.
Pugna didn't do much but they used Static Storm on him every single time.
They fixated too much on Ame being a 6 slot carry that they forgot to play fundamentally sound Dota.
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>>539230260
Pugna's healing did well.
The problem is he could seldom channel it in teamfights.
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Who needs to replace Xiaobet?
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>>539231032
Lanm
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Sell me on the Juggernaut pick, what was the plan in their mind?
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>>539231375
What should they have picked? Maybe Sniper unironically. Actually good vs Medusa.
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>>539231714
nta, but idk if Sniper would have worked well because they didnt have good frontline, they had an offlane Earthshaker
idk, but yeah, i think in general, Sniper or Drow would have been good picks if they had a good frontline, maybe TA
i think they just fucked themselves with that Earthshaker pick at first
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>>539231714
dusa wasnt the issue, tardo

the free naga/disrupt/mag setup was
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>>539231032
steal bLink from tidebound
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the real problem was xg not showing any discipline whatsoever and blowing every spell they had on one guy then getting completely fucked by counter initiation. this happens to chink teams all the time and in 15 years, nobody in the region has learned that picks mean nothing when the enemy carry is completely uncontested
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>>539231951
They don't really need a front line when Dusa can't reach Sniper and they have two save supports and a counter-initiators.
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It was 94th yesterday, why does it keep moving?
TI is done, what else could is possibly need to calculate?
Fucking rigged bullshit.
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>>539231375
Jugg wasn't the worst pick. They fucked up at draft. Nothing they picked for Ame would've saved the draft at that point. Falcons had three disengages with Naga, Disruptor, and Medusa, and they had no way to catch somebody like Magnus who was going to traipse around their base and backline with zero punishment.

Pugna was a shit pick. Didn't contribute to teamfights or lanes because he's a walking gold pinata.
SD and ES were cope picks for the Naga and maybe Medusa that didn't pan out. SD couldn't save anybody, and we saw just how futile it was when Magnus kept diving into the fountain for free picks on Pugna and even SF. They should've drafted literally anybody else with more cc or teamfight even if the usual picks like Hoodwink were banned. Get fucking Jakiro or CM or some shit. Anything but this shitty ES Pugna SD 3 4 5 line-up.

Falcons always drafted for big brawly deathball comps. That's why they had no issue with drafting Medusa and covering for her 24/7. Whoever was in charge of drafting at XG didn't know what the fuck to do against that so they kept drafting cope drafts where you think maybe with enough defensive saves you could farm for 90 mins and get ONE carry to beat the enemy team. They fucked up big time.

You beat deathball comps not by playing 5v5 on their terms. You rat, you get multiple cores to assault them on multiple fronts, or you get an all-star ganking line-up that can fuck shit up and leave before they can react. You force them to starve while huddled in a group. The Chinese are incapable of aggressive plays so they just drafted like shit and farmed like cowards. Of course Falcons would win.
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i think each hero should be a hard counter to at least one other hero
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KNEEL
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>>539232865
But they are
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>>539231714
Unironically anything else. Jugg literally did nothing the entire game with 7slots
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>>539232873
Did you grab this from reddit?
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Vore hero when?
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>>539184340
puppey talked about the naga counter
it's lightofheaven with his bkb
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>>539232478
Valve insider here
when we found out you were getting a free arcana I removed you from the 90+ bracket
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>>539232898
Who does Lifestealer counter?
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they should'vep icked rubick
fucking noobs >>539233730
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>>539234141
good in general vs high health heroes
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>>539234141
Every strength hero with high hp.
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>>539234141
life
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>>539234141
all the fat str heroes
would've been a better choice in game 4
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>>539234141
Pudge
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>>539234141
retards
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just got home bros, where is the new hero trailer??
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>>539237219
Right here

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=opBFaCS_PV4
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kez status?
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>>539201484
SF was building it, it just came really late and they were trapped in their base at that point.
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>>539233867
Can I have it back?
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>draft lion
>suck mana
>collect aegis
seems ez
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What would PSG's take on the finals be?
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>>539221439
I think xiao8 gave him ET like 3 games in a row to cover the 1 pick and when it really didn't shine they felt like it was time for a change. I agree it would have been better.
>>539200637
>stealthily complaining
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>>539234568
Lifestealer is wildly underpicked imo. He's very strong and the infest ancient into gank with the gorestorm facet is really good early game to tip the game in your teams favor. Was surprised to not see it picked much at TI
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>>539238443
no rubick he a sad fag
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You're not gonna want to hear this but the behavior score+overwatch system is unironically good lmao valve actually solved MOBA toxicity
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>>539239319
No it did not crab mentality is worse than ever
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when did Lifestealer stop being an underpowered and pointless version of Ursa?
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I am actually glad I have absolutely no desire to play the game anymore.
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>>539239805
when he got infinite hp
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>>539200319
>>539200780
That's just his name on the @ right?
>This page doesn't exist
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>>539239805
ursa gets a free bkb?
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>>539240708
yes at level 6
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>>539241039
a half duration stun still stuns you
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>>539241171
That sure sucks for when Ursa wants to cast Death Ward
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>>539241171
Ursa can use the ult to un-stun himself (unlike N'aix).
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>>539241852
only with aghs and he still gets cucked by silence
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>>539239319
should have just done the hots thing and disable allchat outside of private lobbies
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>keep seeing enemy juggs getting freest of games and owning on a fun hero
>pick jugg myself
>get liquid diarrhea sprayed into my mouth whole game
cool
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>94th percentile
thats not fair, i deserve the purple item
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>87th percentile
that's not fair, i deserve getting blindfolded and shot in the back of my head
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I got 100th percentile. Is that top 1500?
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>>539243187
Probably.
Also fuck you.
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why didnt xg pick lion against meduka?
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I tough i was going to get my free aegis boo boo, im at 96.60%

But hey, free arcana. Plus, i will buy my aegis at half price, i always wanted one and now i have money and a discount haha.
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>>539243324
xia8 got payed to throw. FIRST PICK NAGA HOLY FUCKING SHIT. PUPPEY TALKED ABOUT THE NAGA COUNTER
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>>539243187
pic or fake
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Too many carries have shit to just prevent CC now
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>>539243467
I suddenly understand all british population. I need a wife to beat.
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>>539243467
Pretty sure nobody cares about the naga pick they made a bunch of very questionable plays and their strategy was to outcarry a late game medusa with what was it 4 or 5 roshan shields just ridiculuous all around pls jugger should have been jumping in and slashing with sf and to my memory he didnt do it once and on top of that saved a bunch of heroes by literally not using his ult and dying to shit while not using his spells at all
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>>539243689
No doxx
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>>539244098
nigga I think that's top 100
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>>539244078
>Pretty sure nobody cares about the naga pick
Naga was outfarming shaker 3 while saving every bad engagement that would had turned the game around.
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>>539244183
Nah no way, it says percentile and I got like 400k less point than the top 100 in fantasy. My predictions were awful too
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I hope all of you in 95-100th percentiles know how much I'm suffering looking at your scores. I'm 85th. My fantasy was crap, twice. My predictions were horrid. My entire bracket was a dumpster fire. I'm not getting any purple immortals, I'm not even getting the arcana token. To rub salt in the wound, the one team I didn't want to win took it all. This has been the worst TI experience I ever had. I truly hate being alive and playing this game.
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>>539244098
I kneel
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>>539244512
yeah well I was too late and I didn't do the compendium - 0%
and I don't give a shit
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>>539243187
No, top 1500 is based on score not percentile
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>>539245073
>top 1500 is based on score not percentile
>Whats statistics
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quiz: can you activate mask of madness for increased attack speed after youve cast omnislash
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>>539245738
yeah, unless they changed it and i forgot
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>>539245738
You can do whatever the fuck during omni but channel stuff.
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>jumped to 89th
don't give me hope
this is just God fucking with me further to set me up for more disappointment
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do people know that Ringmaster's Aghanim's shard is good?
I build it almost every game
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Why is nu-techies reviled in competitive games?
They completed his TRANSformation into a really bland nu-dota nu-hero, he should be perfect for this nu-meta
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>>539246336
Just wait until they rework pudge
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There is no way to make Arc Warden viable without him being completely insufferable to play against
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>>539244512
Aw it'll be ok gamer, I'm in the same boat minus teams. Used an internet guide and got 2 right, and the players didnt do well either. I think it was a trap guide to boost their own score and tank others, which i daresay might be based.
Still a little disappointed i cant even grind for the qop dagger, i play her a lot and it was the only one i wanted.
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>>539246464
they're giving him back Corpse Explosion instead of Hook, at long last
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>>539245982
revert techies please
imagine game 5 techies game that went to 150 minutes...
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>>539246834
>I think it was a trap guide to boost their own score and tank others, which i daresay might be based.
I believe this too, it told me to ignore traits in fantasy, but that was actually the most percentages on the banners.
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Which Arcana should I get? Is Dota+ good? Never had that trash before.
Also which immortal cosmetic item should I get? Couldnt care less about that purple fag thing desu
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In the very last month of Old Techies before the rework, I got a Rampage with Remote Mines.
I feel like I completed the hero now, I don't need to pick him anymore, I got it out of my system
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>>539247024
I HATE YOU
I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU
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kici kici miaw miaw kici kici miaw miaw miaw
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>>539247172
I wish I had money to throw on dumb shit like this
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>>539245982
I'm guessing PA is less attractive due to le staff of disappearing? Can't see her being too bad of an to switch sven, unless the stun is the main selling point
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>>539247024
Dota+ is pretty good, the avoid function is great until you hit immortal draft
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>>539247024
You get the Terrorblade arcana and then a prismatic gem of your choice to change the color.
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>>539245982
>all these iconic gimmick heroes dead
bring back OG
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>>539247024
The damage meter and the neutral suggestion is pretty good, the pulling and stacking are nice tooltips sometimes but you should be able to eye it.
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>>539248013
>>539248013
>>539248013
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Sup d2g.
What the fuck happened to ti, is the rest of the game like this as well? I watched this one and it's been just okay. There's nothing to remember, casters suck ass (I miss the guy from first tis), every game was the same. I thought maybe it's me, but after watching a few records of ti4 to 6 Im 100% sure it was so much more fun. Now it's half an hour of ten combined kills and both teams too afraid to initiate.
And that jug at the end, It feels scripted. How could these really good players decide to basically give victory away even before match started? I've seen that on previous tis as well, why.jpg
Those of you who play competitively, are you happy with them game? It's it fun for you?
For me as a spectator it was not, but it doesnt matter as long as actual players enjoy it.
>Inb4 ded game
Not yet.
If it's not fun, can it be saved?
I believe games should be more chaotic, everything is way too calculated, too efficient, its cold.
Maybe drop captains mode for ti? This pick-ban mindgame just turns every game into same shit.
Let the rng give players random characters based on their preferred roles. They are best of the best, they should be able to adapt.
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>>539244078
>Pretty sure nobody cares about the naga pick
Every pro I've heard give their take on the series pointed out giving away Naga. It was that big of a blunder.
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>>539247352
No one beats Rapeman cleave.



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